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Raiders assistants also await word

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, January 16th, 2010 at 4:24 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Tom Cable isn’t the only Raiders coach awaiting word of his status for the 2010 season, assuming he hasn’t been told and is just keeping it quiet for reasons known only to Al Davis.

As the college all-star games and NFL combine approaches, assistants will either be still working for the Raiders or networking for other jobs.

Earlier today, Profootballtalk.com, referring to a report by ESPN’s Adam Schefter, reported Tuesday could be a key date since assistant coaches must be notifed whether or not they’ll be retained.

However, according to an NFL source, no such deadline exists for coaches under contract.

The Raiders don’t release information regarding the contracts of assistant coaches, but normally sign them to two-year deals. That being the case, six new coaches _ defensive coordinator John Marshall, linebackers coach Mike Haluchak, passing game coordinator Ted Tollner, defensive backs coach Lionel Washington and defensive line coach Dwaine Board _ are likely signed through next season.

Wide receivers coach Sanjay Lal and tight ends coach Adam Henry were promoted from quality control assistants and are in their third year, as is running backs coach Kelly Skipper. Quarterbacks coach Paul Hackett is in his second season after being a special assignment scout last year.

For assistant coaches under contract who will not return to the staff, it’s common for teams to allow them to seek jobs elsewhere. If they don’t find work, the Raiders will often reassign them, as they did with James Lofton for a time last season.

It’s possible the Raiders could wait through the weekend or longer to sort it all out. It’s been 13 days since the end of the regular season. The longest a Raiders coach has gone and then been fired since the the team came back to Oakland was Joe Bugel, who was let go 16 days after the end of the season after going 4-12.

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  1. Norco Bob Says:

    Last

  2. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Breaking news: No news…

  3. Raiders4eve Says:

    Why would AL keep Sanjay Lal, that dude did nothing to develop DHB, I think we need new coaches that can teach these players not Al’s scholarship coaches.

  4. raiderzmaverick Says:

    WE’LL DECIDE ONE DAY….

  5. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Lal’s got ZERO experience as a head coach of ANYTHING on ANY LEVEL. Played receiver in high school ONCE I think. Ridiculous.

    ALL of our WRs except for the oft injured Schilens run bad rou and even WRONG routes and display some of the poorest form of any WR’s I’ve ever seen not only in the pros, but in college as well.
    I’ve seen D linemen with better technique then DHB.

    Sickening and ridiculous…

  6. DKnight007 Says:

    RB coach Skipper should be let go….I don’t like the development of the RB’s. I don’t see any significant adjustments being made during games like I did when Rathman was RB coach.

    Lal should go back to a quality control assistant.

  7. Raiderbuck Says:

    A bunch of dirt farmers!

  8. Florida Pete Says:

    cable ain’t twisting folks…

    he already knows he and Jacarcass will be headlining next year…

  9. Raiders4eve Says:

    Personally, I think Cable is gone, who is he replaced with? I dont know but I dont want a college coach like Jim Harbaugh or Mike Leach. Get me a Jim Fassel or Kevin Gilbride. As far as assistants, I would love AL to get free agents assistant like Sherman Smith who could resurrect DMAC career and enhance M Bush game. Maybe keep Paul HAckett but definitely replace Sanjay Lal with Falcons Wide Receiver coach Terry Robiskie who coached the raiders in the 70s, an experienced coach is needed for louis murphy and dhb.

  10. DKnight007 Says:

    Warner a definite HOF….but should be be put in the HOF teh first time??

    Not fair to other greats that should be in the HOF like Guy, Plunkett, Stabler, Hayes, Branch, Flores……that for damn sure!

    Biased idiotic sports writer should have ANY votes for the HOF. The living members of the HOF should have their own voting committee! Sports writer who are HOF should NOT have a vote and their votes should be revoked ASAP!

  11. Norco Bob Says:

    Petes usually wrong about most things, but hes right, Cable and Russell wihtout doubt back in 2010,..as well as another 4-12 type year,..Im used to it, all good.

  12. Raiders4eve Says:

    What the hell is “Who Dat Nation” mean? There is only one nation and thats Raider Nation. Period.

  13. Bobby Bushay Says:

    Jerry MacD’s a great reporter. Get over it!

  14. Florida Pete Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
    Petes usually wrong about most things, but hes right, Cable and Russell wihtout doubt back in 2010,..as well as another 4-12 type year,..Im used to it, all good.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    i want to personally thank you for your vote of confidence…

    if russell is the QB… 4-12…

    if anyone else… 8-8… + or – a loss…

  15. Raiders4eve Says:

    Btw, any of you guys noticed the similaraties between Kurt Warner’s wife and Ivan Drago from Rocky IV? Is she older then him, couldnt believe that woman had 7 children she seems in her mid 40s, what you guys think?

  16. Florida Pete Says:

    Norco Bob is a great lunatic…

    get over it…

  17. Florida Pete Says:

    Raiders4eve Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
    Btw, any of you guys noticed the similaraties between Kurt Warner’s wife and Ivan Drago from Rocky IV? Is she older then him, couldnt believe that woman had 7 children she seems in her mid 40s, what you guys think?

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    i think i’ll pass…

  18. Raiders4eve Says:

    I think AL Davis should sue the Saints fans for using a name Who Dat Nation, there is only one nation thats the Raider Nation. AL go after them.

  19. Raiders4eve Says:

    If Colts shutdown Ray Rice, they should win against the Ravens. Colts win big.

  20. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    True, Norco. But what really happens is that the pot expands their thought process on what it’s already focused on: problems they have little to no control over. You carry the weight of the world on your shoulders regularly, and you’re going to freak when you smoke pot. If they were to smoke pot all of the time, I suppose they would learn to relax and enjoy their high. But it’s really hard to change that wiring. Usually takes therapy. In other words, Norco, the reason why you enjoy pot so much is because you never had much of a conscience to begin with. My guess is that you were neglected or abused as a child, probably by your father, and you’ve always used that as an excuse to pass the world’s problems, including yours, on to someone else. That’s why you enjoy pot. That’s why most people who do enjoy pot at a young age are people from troubled environments.

  21. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Raiders4eve Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    Btw, any of you guys noticed the similaraties between Kurt Warner’s wife and Ivan Drago from Rocky IV? Is she older then him, couldnt believe that woman had 7 children she seems in her mid 40s, what you guys think?

    ……………..

    LOL.

    Warner’s wife’s similarities to Dolph Lundgren. Discuss.

  22. Norco Bob Says:

    Well I will not deny I come from a troubled environment,…thats my reality I guess,…but I grew up in Santa Cruz, surfing and getting high and drinking beer is pretty much a way of life there,…but yes youre right, troubled environment, nothing real horrible though.

  23. SnakeStabler Says:

    I can’t believe I would see the day where Chris Carr
    would be the starting cornerback on a playoff team.
    He sucked in coverage when he was on the Raiders.

  24. Richochet Says:

    # Florida Pete Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    Norco Bob Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
    Petes usually wrong about most things, but hes right, Cable and Russell wihtout doubt back in 2010,..as well as another 4-12 type year,..Im used to it, all good.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    i want to personally thank you for your vote of confidence…

    if russell is the QB… 4-12…

    if anyone else… 8-8… + or – a loss…
    =====================
    LMAO..NorcotheDork says even a broken clock is right twice a day, and to you that’s a compliment?

    Easy crowd.

  25. Richochet Says:

    # SnakeStabler Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    I can’t believe I would see the day where Chris Carr
    would be the starting cornerback on a playoff team.
    He sucked in coverage when he was on the Raiders.
    ================
    Doesn’t everybody suck while on the Raiders?
    Then mysteriously shines once they land elsewhere?

    You think it’s the water?

  26. Richochet Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    Well I will not deny I come from a troubled environment,…thats my reality I guess,…but I grew up in Santa Cruz, surfing and getting high and drinking beer is pretty much a way of life there,…but yes youre right, troubled environment, nothing real horrible though.
    ====================
    awwww…aren’t you just so precious?

    What’s next?

    Tea parties, and chants of kumbaya?

    Ok..here…*pat on head*…there, you feel better, pumpkin?

  27. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Norco Bob I think you already admitted on occasion you had an abusive father? I don’t care if you grew up in paradise that’s going to damage you. And you just said earlier today you were shooting heroin in San Jose when you were younger. There’s no way you came from a stable environment if that’s the case.

  28. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Indy’s red zone D is no joke. Sort of like ours in, well, never.

  29. Richochet Says:

    # Raiders4eve Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    I think AL Davis should sue the Saints fans for using a name Who Dat Nation, there is only one nation thats the Raider Nation. AL go after them.
    =====================
    Foolish child.

    Steeler Nation was coined LONG before the Raiders.
    RedSox nation even before that.

    Oh..and that Cherokee nation thang?

    Yeah..been around for a bit.
    I suppose, to be fair, Al should also sue the Arapaho, Cheyenne, and Crow Nations…along with the other 550 tribes..just to be safe.

  30. Norco Bob Says:

    Never claimed to have come from stable environment,..and no never mentioned father in here,..he was cool, no prob with him ever, not as a kid anyway.

  31. Norco Bob Says:

    Geez, looks to me like the Chargers will get afc title game at home,..yup, they goin to superbowl, but the Saints will beat em. Brees gets revenge.

  32. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Norco, I’m not going to go back and find it but I know you’ve said before that your father was abusive. It was a father’s day and you kept saying that you’re father’s in hell. Richochet’s right. You’re here to get attention. Nothing else.

  33. Richochet Says:

    Go glance at yesterday, or day before, RMR.
    Norco, after nonstop idiot insults about everything, he then laughed at the fact he got people to reply.

    Some people take drugs because of issues…others just because they’re weak.

    When you get the Norco’s and Br ian’s laughing at the fact they’re heavy drug users, and regular fall down drunks, while laughing at everything around them, I tend to believe he’s just a weak attention whore.

  34. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 4:34 pm

    I’ve seen D linemen with better technique then DHB.
    ======================================================

    LMAO!

  35. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    MR, he denied having a dog the other night, might not be the real norco, imo, too many missed things…..

  36. Norco Bob Says:

    Do as you please MR,…go back years if you like,..all good.

  37. Norco Bob Says:

    Someone asked me how was my pup,..I dont have a pup, I have two adult poodles.

  38. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Norco, you said you didn’t have a dog…….

  39. IDraiderfan Says:

    I dont know if anyone noticed Steve Mariucci on the NFL network today but he had a black shirt with silver and black tie. He is the next raider HC.

  40. Norco Bob Says:

    Todd, I have 2 adult poodles, apricots,..we hang at the American River,..I believe I said I didnt have a pup,..go back and look if you need to,..if I said no dog, I ment no pup,..either way bfd bud.

  41. Plunketthead Says:

    Super hot, super smart, super sexy lady teaches how to make booze.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoECuFZOrgw

    Thank me later

  42. GG Says:

    Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh reportedly turned down an offer from the Bills to be their next head coach.
    Harbaugh recently signed an extension at Stanford and will stay with the Cardinal. He’s the latest in a line of coaches to spurn Buffalo, after Mike Shanahan, Bill Cowher, Brian Schottenheimer and possibly Russ Grimm also passed on the opportunity.
    Source: Profootballtalk on NBCSports.com

  43. Norco Bob Says:

    Iv made pruno in jail,..honor farm in Milpitas,..Elmwood,…took about 2 weeks,..stole yeast from the kitchen where I worked,..with lots of oranges and sugar,..great booze.

  44. Norco Bob Says:

    GG,..your point is?

  45. Norco Bob Says:

    I firmly believe no matter who wins this game, the Bolts will crush them,…hopefully Brees and the Saints beat them.

  46. Richochet Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 6:03 pm

    Todd, I have 2 adult poodles, apricots,..we hang at the American River,..I believe I said I didnt have a pup,..go back and look if you need to,..if I said no dog, I ment no pup,..either way bfd bud.
    ==========================
    LMAO..beyond asinine…In other words, you’re a lying crock…

    Yeah…hey…bfd…to other liars, that is.

  47. Norco Bob Says:

    Rich, if you truly hate Norco Bob, just ignore him,..all good bro.

  48. Richochet Says:

    Hate him? lol…au contraire’.
    You be sure and tell him “yo” for me, won’t you?
    Whenever you see him, that is.

  49. Norco Bob Says:

    I still feel the bolts will beat the colts if they play,…hope vikes crush dallas.

  50. Norco Bob Says:

    Watching Manning, maybe he can beat the bolts,…will need to because the jets will get demolished yesterday,..went to Tahoe this morning, my 4 team parlay is looking good so far!

  51. Simon Says:

    AD is an azz. What a freakin joke he is. Give it up already you jerk.

  52. Raiders4eve Says:

    Man watching Colts linebackers, they run fast like Morrison but they can tackle for sure, I bet if Morrison was there, he would be like Gary Bracket kind of guy, I think Morrison speed is underrated but he lacks a good coach to teach him gap movement and tackling. Raiders need good coaches regardless if AL mingles with the defense or not. I dont believe this team was well coached this year.

  53. Raider75 Says:

    LOL…

    Reed thought he had one.

  54. Florida Pete Says:

    strap-on !!!

    hey… how ya doin’ my manic, bi-polar, little buddy…

    so are you wearing your football helmet today???

  55. priesttj Says:

    Flacco straight up stinks. His coaches are scared t daeth of using him. They would at least have a chance if it weren’t for him. And the Jets are in deep trouble with Sanchez against the Chargers. But the coaching staffs of both teams understand how to work with a young QB something that’s totally lost on our coaching staff.

    We expose young QB’s they protect them them selves from them. They at least depend on their running games and defenses to win we tried to win with a passing game of a young struggling QB and two rookie WR’s and for that I think Cable is liable. Instead of the struggling young QB whom he threw under the bus.

  56. ohioraider Says:

    No way does Cable hang on. You guys forget Al’s modus operandi: first, like a vulture he picks the brains of his soon to be departed staff; then he lets them twist in the wind; then he mulls his options; then he thinks he can grab somebody from a playoff/Super Bowl team, so he waits until February to pull the trigger. Then his first pick turns him down and he’s left with table scraps (not that he’d have more than that anyways).

    Al, you cagey genius you!

  57. Norco Bob Says:

    Priest, maybe someday you will hold Russell accountable,..doubt it though.

  58. priesttj Says:

    Bob, mayb some day you’ll understand football. I doubt it tho…

  59. priesttj Says:

    This game is a lot closer if Flacco was any good at all. He just cannot make plays…………..period

  60. Norco Bob Says:

    Look old buddy, I got you back with Gary, no need to hate on me TJ.

  61. Norco Bob Says:

    TJ,..what does Mike tell you bout Cable?…stayin or goin?…it wont leave this blog bro.

  62. aig Says:

    I see priest is still out there making excuses for Russell. Hey TJ, I can assure you that at least Brady Quinn, Flacco and Sanchez put a lot more time to preparation then Jawalrus will ever put in his efforts.

  63. priesttj Says:

    If Russell had thrown those two int’s the commentary would be very different. That’s what sickens me is the bias commentary. Both int’s were due to inaccurate passes but that’s not how the color man put it. He should’ve said Flacco needs to get better but we never heard that from him.

  64. RaiderLen Says:

    Evening Nation,

    Ohioraider, If Al has ben picking the brains of his former coaches before cutting them loose, that might explain why we have sucked for the last 7 years.

  65. priesttj Says:

    Oh! woweee I’m back with Gary…..I can’t wait.

    Aig you can’t assure me of anything because YOU DON”T KNOW so shutup.

  66. Richochet Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    Flacco straight up stinks. His coaches are scared t daeth of using him. They would at least have a chance if it weren’t for him. And the Jets are in deep trouble with Sanchez against the Chargers. But the coaching staffs of both teams understand how to work with a young QB something that’s totally lost on our coaching staff.

    We expose young QB’s they protect them them selves from them. They at least depend on their running games and defenses to win we tried to win with a passing game of a young struggling QB and two rookie WR’s and for that I think Cable is liable. Instead of the struggling young QB whom he threw under the bus.
    =========================
    LMFAO..you freaking sorry excuse.
    “wahhhhhhhhh….Cable benched JR….wahhhhhhh”

    Hey, moron, he sucked.
    Even as you cried and cried about him being benched, HE SUCKED.
    Even as you GUARANTEED that once JR got back in where he would shine, HE SUCKED.
    Even as you guaranteed Grad would suck? HE DIDN’T.

    Team gave up on Russell.
    Fans gave up on Russell.
    And finally Al gave up on Russell.

    You? lol..you stupidly call the radio station, where even they mock you, and then hang up on you.

  67. Norco Bob Says:

    Ya TJ,..the whole world is against Jamarcus arent they?…so unfair.

  68. Raiders4eve Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    Flacco straight up stinks. His coaches are scared t daeth of using him. They would at least have a chance if it weren’t for him. And the Jets are in deep trouble with Sanchez against the Chargers. But the coaching staffs of both teams understand how to work with a young QB something that’s totally lost on our coaching staff.

    We expose young QB’s they protect them them selves from them. They at least depend on their running games and defenses to win we tried to win with a passing game of a young struggling QB and two rookie WR’s and for that I think Cable is liable. Instead of the struggling young QB whom he threw under the bus.
    ===================================================

    I agree with you that both Jets and Ravens ran the ball and play strong defense to win it, but hey that system is wont win you a SB or take you far in this league. As you know the game has favored offensive teams, it became a passing league. If we struggled in that dept due to JR and our coaches, it doesnt mean that we adapt a system that wont translate to wining a SB. If you love this team then you should know that we can’t win with this QB called JR. Yes, we do need strong defense and a good running game, but our QB has to be average. JR is clearly below average, you can blame the coaches all you want, but JR as Jerry was reporting during training camp looked awful. He clearly regressed. He reported over weight, showed up late in meetings, showed up over weight in camp, seen partying on Saturdays, what else you know it all. Priesttj, you are passionate about the Raiders like all of us, but clearly you missing some points in blaming coaches rather than blaming the players themselves. JR has no work ethic like Flacco or Sanchez. He barely knows the playbook and can only read half the field as Steve Young commented in the first game, he also got out played by two backups Frye and Gradkowski. He hasnt shown he deserves the money he got payed. He left the team to party in Vegas instead of taking new instructions for the off season.

    Listen Priesttj, you love the Raider like we all do, you understand football but you fail to notice that we are not a talented team like the Ravens or Jets, their rank top 10 in defense and forcing turnovers. We can barely stop the run and we give huge plays on a weekly basis, to be honest, what do u expect us to do when our team is trailing by 10 pts, keep running the ball or force the pass? Besides, two rookie wrs, whose fault is that, Cable or AL Davis, AL is the one who controls who plays, Cable benched Russell only after AL gave him to go. Why dont you blame AL Davis instead of blaming the coaches? Note, I dont like Cable or other coaches, in my earlier posted, I have said we need new coaches that can develop these young players, I even named running back coach Sherman and wrs coach Robiski as potential replacement. Yet, you can only teach those who want to learn, Russel clearly doesnt think he needs it.

  69. Norco Bob Says:

    TJ, you may make light of me getting you back with Gary on KNBR, but I know Pat, he talked to Gary, they allowed you to come back on,…probably because your calls make them laugh,…then you run to Damon or whomever at night,…does Mike know youre doin this?

  70. priesttj Says:

    Russell will be fine trust me. That I do know.

  71. priesttj Says:

    Bob, are you sure you’re well? I don’t talk to any of those people I don’t call at all……..period

  72. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    BIGOT

  73. Florida Pete Says:

    priesttj Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    Russell will be fine trust me. That I do know.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    is something wrong with Bill Russell ???

    i didn’t see anything…

  74. RaiderLen Says:

    Priesttj…

    How do you know? Everybody else seems to think differently.

    What is the process by which Jamarcus becomes OK?

  75. Richochet Says:

    AIG, the Wife Beater?
    No posting as Seymour tonight?

  76. Norco Bob Says:

    TJ,..look brother, wer all know why you support Jamarcus,..ok?…nuthin wrong with that either…but you certainly dont support him because hes a decent qb.

  77. r8eray Says:

    Yeah…he’ll be fine somewhere else (Oakland) but here!!!!

  78. Richochet Says:

    # Florida Pete Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    priesttj Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    Russell will be fine trust me. That I do know.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    is something wrong with Bill Russell ???

    i didn’t see anything…
    ==================
    Oh geez..it’s like romper room in here with this silly crap.
    Don’t you have a garden to weed?
    You know..something where you feel useful?

    Hey..don’t blame me. You’re the worm that bailed, stating “I CAN’T WATCH ANYMORE..I’M GOING TO GO TEND MY ROSES”.

  79. Norco Bob Says:

    You and I go waaaaaay back, TJ from Mountain View,…I had your back years ago during JT`s noon show on 1050,…but youre support of Jamarcus,…well, youre just color blind bro.

  80. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    BIGOT!

  81. Raiders4eve Says:

    Priesttj

    Did you read my post?

    How in the world would you blame the coaches and scheme when AL Davis is clearly deciding who plays or not. Please read my take and point out to me where am i wrong, otherwise face the fact that JR sucks.

  82. RaiderLen Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
    You and I go waaaaaay back, TJ from Mountain View,…I had your back years ago during JT`s noon show on 1050,…but youre support of Jamarcus,…well, youre just color blind bro.
    =======================================================
    Interesting play on words. Color Blind.

  83. priesttj Says:

    I know because I use my own judgement based on facts. Not hearsay and enuendos and overhyped crap. Just as I knew Flacco and Ryan would get exposed, and the supposed Sanchise was a fluke.

    The media hypes people they like and Russell was Davis’s pick which makes him an automatic underdog. Cable did something that was stupid and counterproductive. Worse he didn’t win.

  84. Norco Bob Says:

    Sanchise is a bust TJ?…is he playin tomorrow or is Jamarcus?

  85. Raiders4eve Says:

    Priesttj

    Forget the media for a second. You wanna talk about facts, ok, tell me this dont you agree that JR barely knows the playbook and can only read half the field as Steve Young commented in the first game, he also got out played by two backups Frye and Gradkowski. He hasnt shown he deserves the money he got payed. He left the team to party in Vegas instead of taking new instructions for the off season? Isn’t this facts

  86. RaiderLen Says:

    The fact is Jamarcus was less productive than His Primary backup.

    Jamrcus has a propensity to fumble.

    Jamarcus is immature, and needs to get his head straight.

    He does not yet know what the term Proffesional means.

  87. Raiders4eve Says:

    Preisttj

    Please construct a counter argument to your points rather than saying you know based on facts, whats is your facts?

  88. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Jamarcus is a drooling, open mouthed, paste-eating, interception machine.

    BIGOT.

  89. RaiderLen Says:

    4eve, It’s his opinion…period.

  90. Raiders4eve Says:

    RaiderLen

    Thats not what he said.

    priesttj Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    I know because I use my own judgement based on facts.

  91. Raiders4eve Says:

    I am just asking whats the fact that he knows and we all missing.

  92. r8eray Says:

    This has nothing to do with WHITE/BLACK QB!! It just happens to be JaMarcus is BLACK, DUMB,and LAZY!!!!
    I like Vince Young, Vick,and Mcnabb.
    JaMarcus is….just plain STUPID!!!!!!

  93. RaiderLen Says:

    Thanks 4eve…Missed that.

    Tj…what facts?

  94. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    His “fact” is that he likes Jamarcus because he is black.

    If you don’t like Jamarcus because he sucks as a QB, Priest will just call you a bigot.

    BIGOT.

  95. RaiderLen Says:

    TJ…is it true. You support Jamarcus because He’s black?

  96. priesttj Says:

    Boy! what a bunch of geniuses!!

    If you can’t see why I support Russell then you are blind and ignorant. People say he’s dumb who have never met him, so how would they know? He’s definitely immature and young and needs to understand what it takes to be great.

    Frye and Gradkowski had to learn the same thing. Or else they would still be with the teams that drafted them. Both of them have been on 3 other teams and handed pink slips before they actually learned. So they’re where Russell needs to get to. But to ask Russell to be where they are at this point is ignorant.

    Last year even Garcia was benched twice. It happens Russell has a lot to learn but I would say he’s 60% there and time and experience are all he needs……..period

  97. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    He was THE #1 overall pick and he is in his third year.

    HIS THIRD YEAR!!!!

    He is supposed to be the franchise QB, instead he’s a punchline.

    He has regressed and has lost everyone’s respect.

    He sucks…..period.

  98. priesttj Says:

    #rd year for a QB is nothing the kid 24 years old and was handed a trap door. Give him a defense and a running game and he can win……….period. The idiot coach gave him two rookies and told him to win throwing to them. He was set up to fail. They say he regressed I say he was in a situation where very few QB’s would have been successful. Then when he wasn’t everyone said it was his fault because they’re ignorant of the facts.

  99. RaiderLen Says:

    Lets run a 3-4 defense next year.

    Rd1 McClain ILB
    Rd2 T Cody NT
    Rd3a Mike Johnson RG
    Rd3b Micah Jonhnson ILB
    Rd4 Kyle Calloway RT
    Rd5 Vlad Ducasse OG/T

  100. Norco Bob Says:

    TJ, when players like Chaz, Kirk, publicly are diappointed in Russell, I bet its because they see up close daily how he just doesnt give a F…not because hes lacking qb experience and all that BS,..they are out there busting their butts in practice, all week, in the film rooms,…I can tell by their words that Jamarcus isnt, thats why he has lost the team.

  101. Norco Bob Says:

    TJ,..the coach gave him two rookies and what a bad defense?…Cable did that?…lol…arent you aware Cable doesnt even get to choose when he can go to the bathroom in Alameda, much less the f`n roster…too funny.

  102. jhill Says:

    This concept of losing the team is hilarious!

    Kirk? Are we sure HE hasn’t lost the defense with all the blown assignments and missed tackles he’s wrapped up?

    Chaz? Try staying on the field for more than 8 games a season so the QB doesn’t have to play with DHB and Watkins!

    Henderson and Green? Try blocking someone instead of begging for a mobile QB!

    Brady had the EXACT same miscues as Russell against the Ravens. Did Brady show lack of pocket presence when Suggs stripped him? How about that pick he threw right to the defense? Pretty Russell-esq, huh? Of course not.

    Flacco threw for 35 yds last week, and was 7/14 for 80 yds in the 3rd qtr today. If we had ANY type of coach, we could have been in the playoffs by RUNNING THE BALL and playing decent defense.

  103. priesttj Says:

    Bob, now who’s making excuses? Chaz and Kirk need to get better at their jobs. Stop worrying about someone else. They wouldn’t know what he does all they know is what he does in practice. And I know he practices very well. That I do know.

  104. Norco Bob Says:

    Maybe Kirk and Chaz arent all pro TJ,..but they work hard and have respect for the game,..your boy is a disgrace.

  105. jhill Says:

    The coach should have practiced running the ball in the preseason and during training camp. The guy with the headset on should have busted out the jumbo package before week 14!

    Yeah Al wanted to see DHB, and Chaz got hurt. Unfortunate! But the coach made ZERO adjustments calling plays and is now admitting he needs to give up play calling.

    The coach says he needs to give up play calling.

    The coach said the Oline was terrible this year.

    We ALL know DHB and Watkins were awful, and they we IT for what 6 games or so this year?

    Those 3 things alone add to the hilariousness of the team being upset with someone! Half the team should be cut!

  106. priesttj Says:

    Thanks Jhill, at least there someone in here with some football acumen. These guy’s can’st see the forest for the trees.

    Russell has his problems but so does everyone else especially the coach. But the only reason we’re not a playoff team is the young QB what a bunch of crock.

    Thankfully we have an owner who’s very football savvy who aint buying into the bullcrap.

  107. Norco Bob Says:

    Oh brother,..TJ,..tell me, is Cable staying or going?

  108. jhill Says:

    Russell has his part of this debacle too, but gawd damn man!

    It’s so funny to me that a lot of people say it was ALL Russell, then turn right around and say we need a new OC, DHB sucks, and our Oline is garbage. LMFAO! I mean, if it was all Russell, why not just plug in Grads and sit back and enjoy the playoff run.

    If pretty easy to see that the Jets and Ravens have no real QB play to speak of. For whatever reason. And they are STILL competitive and in the playoffs. I wonder why?

  109. jhill Says:

    I think I’m just past the Russell BS because we ALL know he’s coming back because of the owner. So why sit here and biotch about it. Move the fugg on.

    Build the Oline so we can dominate on the ground, and have a bit of time for whatever QB to throw. Grads and Frye got the shyt knocked outta them man!

    Dez Bryant in Rd 1 and a RT in Rd 2.

  110. priesttj Says:

    Jhill, word bro.

  111. Norco Bob Says:

    lol

  112. Norco Bob Says:

    Ok thats it man, Im calling Pat monday morning, you can forget about calling Gary anymore dude,..book that.

  113. RaiderLen Says:

    Cable has to accept responsibility for the under utilization/lack of creativity regarding Bush and McFadden.

    Also the poor line play as that is His baby.

    The fact still remains that Jamarcus clearly regressed as a QB in spite of the coaching of Hacket, and as the Guy that got all of the work in the week leading up to a game.

    It’s just my opinion, but I think Jamarcus still has not understood what it really means to be the starting QB on an NFL team.

  114. Raiders4eve Says:

    Jhill and Priesttj

    Whose game plan was implemented this season offensively?
    Wasn’t it AL’s? Wasn’t it AL who forced DHB and Murphy to start? Couldn’t he have signed veteren WRs or start Walker? Whose mistake it was not to draft a single OL last year? Come on guys, if you wanna blame someone you have to blame the GM who is in charger for the past 7 years.

  115. RaiderLen Says:

    My starting WR’s next year would be Chaz, Murphy, and JLH.

    They have been shown to be productive when given the time on the field.

    Bush would be my lead back. McFadden would be used all over the field.

  116. chappy23us Says:

    The only contstant over the past 7 seasons (excluding losing football) is Al Davis. Anyone who believes things will get better as long as he insists on running our once proud organization is an idiot

  117. Raiders4eve Says:

    Raiderlen

    To be honest, I think AL Davis should sign a veteran WRs maybe he can get T.O he would be by far our best WR.

  118. Raider O Says:

    Len,

    I would like to see Chaz & Murphy outside, and DHB in the slot. I also would like to see more of Bush rushing, and DMC running less inside.

  119. RaiderLen Says:

    Al is old. Or put another way…not as young as He used to be.

    He should acknowledge this and find some help with the Football Operations of His organization.

    If His ego is larger than His common sense…we will continue to witness the withering of a once great Franchise.

  120. RaiderLen Says:

    4eve, with all due respect…I really don’t like T.O.

    The guy is all about Him. I’d prefer to see a Guy that was more about “us” as a teammate.

    I think Chaz can be a To type player. He has the Physical attributes, and what appears to be a much better attitude. :)

  121. RaiderDogg Says:

    MAJOR changes are in the works. Things will come to light soon…

  122. RaiderLen Says:

    Hey O, how ya doin?

    DHB need to prove He can catch the ball before I’d put Him in the slot. Things happen quickly there.

    Sure hands are important.

  123. RaiderLen Says:

    Dogg, Cough it up.

  124. Raider O Says:

    we should sign a vet WR to help The young guys, but only if he is cheap. I think we have a lot of issues with the entire right side of the OL. We need to draft OL! We alsohave problems with the front 7 especialy DT and MLB.

    Seymour should be moved inside in our 4-3 scheme. He had 5 sacks!

    We also need to draft or sign a DT, right DE, MLB, and a CB.

  125. RaiderDogg Says:

    All I can say is Cable is done

  126. RaiderLen Says:

    Dogg,

    100% Certain?

  127. Raider O Says:

    Len,

    All is well. How are you?

    I agree that he needs to prove he can catch before he can get on the field, but with his work ethic he should be able to do better this season. Atleast share time with JLH in the Slot, and be a backup for outside WRs.

  128. RaiderDogg Says:

    It’s looking that way, although you never know what Al is going to do until he actually does it.

    I do think Al realizes things need to change in a big way and it appears he is more open to it than he has ever been.

  129. RaiderLen Says:

    O…OL from Center to RT…agreed.

    MLB…Agreed.

    DL…a run stuffer.

    CB…I could wait a year.

  130. RaiderLen Says:

    Dogg, forgive my ignorance…do you have inside dope?

  131. RaiderDogg Says:

    Russell will compete for the starting spot next year. I am hearing that there are a few people out there that think they can help this kid turn it around and Al plans on meeting with every single one of them.

  132. Raider O Says:

    Dogg,

    How to you know that? Don’t go into detail but throws us a bone. lol

  133. chappy23us Says:

    Anything short of Al stepping down is not sufficient.

  134. RaiderLen Says:

    O…doing well!

    Ready to start some heavy training.

  135. RaiderDogg Says:

    Len

    I wouldn’t say inside dope. But my source has been dead on in the past, although always with a disclaimer that “you never know until you know” so take it with a grain. I will say after talking to my friend, I was pretty psyched about what was said.

    Norco Bob has the inside dope. He gets it off craigslist ;)

  136. RaiderDogg Says:

    Just got home from a playoff party with some business associates. After a few drinks, people tend to loosen their lips a bit ;)

  137. Raiders4eve Says:

    Raiderdogg

    How can Russell be helped if he is not willing to put on the work? He is been fined for missing meetings and showing up late, he is been over weight, hardly knows the playbook, lost the respect of his teammates? been outplayed by two backup QBs, who in the right mind would think this QB can turn around and become a decent player, even Alex Smith who works hard seems below average QB.

  138. RaiderLen Says:

    Chappy, we’ve been living with not sufficient for quite awhile.

    Not likely to change.

  139. RaiderLen Says:

    Dogg, Thanks for the insight.

  140. Raider O Says:

    Len,

    The only way I would wait for a CB is to to try Huff there. Maybe try him in the slot, and if he does will we can move him outside.
    Huff played CB and S at Texas, and he is the shadow king so we know he can cover.

    I think CJ is a descent CB, and Routt can’t cover.

  141. djohnnyg Says:

    Priestjj,

    When u talk about Russell not having the ammunition to work with to make an accurate judgement about him, I agree, but I’m not hearing you talk about the lack of leadership (which even the PLAYERS have alluded to). Or, Russell not taking his job seriously (as evidenced by him being so out of shape). That’s te stuff that rubs me the wrong way about him, and hence the harsh judgement which he so richly deserves.

    The guy is a slacker, and hearing him talk? well, the dude can’t even form complete sentences. Hence the “dumb” references.

    Maybe if he actually tried to be a real NFL QB people would give him some slack.

    He’s got some raw talent, but I have no respect for a guy that takes millions and doesn’t give a crap.

  142. Raider O Says:

    Len,

    What kind of training?

  143. RaiderDogg Says:

    4eve

    Word around was that Russell took this season much harder than he is letting on. Russell expects to be great and had never suffered such criticism and ridicule in his entire life. Perception is that he now realizes what needs to be done. If he actually does is entirely up to him.

    We shall see. I am just relaying what I heard. Personally I hope Russell succeeds. Winning solves a lot and that includes the trust of his fellow teammates. I also heard that Russell had much more support in the locker room than what is portrayed in the media.

    Remember don’t kill the messenger and take it with a grain of salt…

  144. Raider O Says:

    Dogg,

    Thanks bro.
    Did your friend say anything about a new HC?

  145. RaiderLen Says:

    O, I’m willing to wait only because I think we have more pressing needs. (no pun intended):)

  146. Raider O Says:

    Dogg,

    Keep talking! I don’t care if it’s true. It sounds great! lol

  147. RaiderLen Says:

    O…weight training/cardio/diet.

  148. RaiderDogg Says:

    Raider O

    I am seriosly expecting BIG changes. I think Cable is done.

    I also heard that there are a few players that aren’t all about Cable, including Richard Seymour…

  149. Raider O Says:

    Len,

    We can’t fix everything in 1 year, and I agree with you. OL & the front 7 are more important to fix than the secondary.

  150. armond Says:

    why do so many of u want russell to fail? anybody can see the light so to speak. lets see if the man comes back strong from all of this adversity. al davis has every right to cater to his #1 pick if it helps him get better. maybe al davis realizes he didnt help this situation much and feels the need to correct it. dont yall know it actually helps us if russell does pan out? would any of u give up on your knucklehead sons so easily? didnt think so.

  151. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    I’m lovin the info Dogg.

    Any talk of a GM?

  152. Raider O Says:

    Dogg,

    Did you hear anything about a new HC?

  153. RaiderDogg Says:

    Sweep The Leg. Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
    I’m lovin the info Dogg.

    Any talk of a GM?”

    No word of a GM specifically, just big changes.

  154. Raider O Says:

    Len,

    I have a bench. I use it every day to smoke. I rest my bong on it when I’m smoking. lol
    I call that heavy training. lol

  155. RaiderLen Says:

    Armond, I stated way back in April that I thought Jamarcus should get 2 solid years of playing time before a real decision was made about His future prospects as a player.

    After this past season, with His obvious regression, I’ve changed my tune.

    This young Man needs to demonstrate that He is clearly better than any other option we have in an open competition at the 2010 traing camp.

    I would like nothing better than for Him to succeed.

    I now however have reservations about His level of commintent to the PROFESSION of football.

  156. Raider O Says:

    Good evening STL.

    I don’t think Al will hire a GM this year.

  157. RaiderDogg Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
    Dogg,

    Did you hear anything about a new HC?”

    No names, just everyone chiming in on who they would like to see. Brian Billick seemed to be a popular choice, although most seemed to think he would ask for too much money.

    Probably will be some young assistant surrounded by older, experienced coaches. Al seems content to find that next big coach.

    All right I am out for the night. I have been gone all day and the wife is in the bedroom waiting on me. She wants to watch Up In The Air.

    Have a good night y’all and hope for the best. I have the feeling we will be finding out in the next couple of days what is going down, or at least where the Raiders are headed…

  158. armond Says:

    dogg i agree russ was bothered much more than he let on cuz reality has hit his azz up hard. we all know had he been honest about everything the media and fans would have a field day with it. cable has lied several times this year and i keep bringing up what ronald curry said about him last year. also a poster by the name of downthebay has mentioned hackett and russells lack of communication. why does it seem like kiffin and russ had a better relationship than he and cable?

  159. RaiderLen Says:

    O, you crack me up. Mix in some 12 and 16 ounce curls.

    Pesronally I’m into volume training. 18… 12 ounce beers lifted repeatedly until failure. :)

  160. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Dogg,

    Changes in organization philosophy?, front office?, coaching staff?, players?.

  161. Raiders4eve Says:

    RaiderDogg

    Thanks for the info, but I remain skeptical about it. Hypothetically, lets even say JR hires a personal trainer and cook to get back in shape, AL fixes the OL and gets him good coaches along with few more weapons, also lets say he starts understands what it takes to become a good QB, all these points are of course a hypothesis. Question is, how does he solve his inaccuracy? I heard from former QBs, Steve Young in KNBR, ESPN Kordel Stewart (I know he is faq), Marino, Gannon, many more former players that the one thing you can’t teach a QB is to become accurate, you either have it or don’t. Meaning, Brett Favre is a first ballot hall of famer, but he will never been known to as an accurate QB, JR is far from having Bretts career, we can all agree to that, but how can JR learn to throw the ball accurately when he doesnt have it in his system and will never have it? We need a accurate QB, not someone who will throw 2 TDS only to give up the same in the fourth QB. Why pay that money and waste that time knowing he is not and will never be an accurate QB?

  162. armond Says:

    len i understand all of that even i am taking a wait and see approach.he definately has to prove himself but i question the need for people to act so high and mighty when it really doesnt matter what they think. al davis isnt giving up on his investment this soon unless russell does some gangsta type sh!t. that damn defense is overrated and the oline is horrible. thats cable’s forte and when did al force murphy to start over jlh? ill give dhb but murphy no way. ronnie brown was criticized for the same stuff as was vy but now look at them. we need competition at every position aside from qb.

  163. GG Says:

    Lol @ Al’s “big changes”….steel yourselves for another “returning the raiders greatness” state of union address that still neglects the organizational changes needed, it’s not just about putting a broom thru HCs and assistant coaches year after year if the ORGANIZATIONAL structure is still the same.

  164. Raider O Says:

    Good night Dogg.

  165. RaiderLen Says:

    Armond, We are in agreement. The best players should ALWAYS be on the field.

    No favorites of the Coach…No scholarships from the old Man.

  166. RaiderLen Says:

    GG Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
    Lol @ Al’s “big changes”….steel yourselves for another “returning the raiders greatness” state of union address that still neglects the organizational changes needed, it’s not just about putting a broom thru HCs and assistant coaches year after year if the ORGANIZATIONAL structure is still the same.
    =======================================================
    True. But Mabey THIS year we get something more.

    I’m not holding my breath…but I’m always hopefull.

    I can’t help it. :)

  167. vegas raider Says:

    Well looks like it is going to be the QB show from here.

    Load up on the Cowboys and Dolts tomorrow.

    Peyton, Brees, River, Romo might be the final four, and they might be the 4 best QB’s as well.

    Coincidence??? Hardly.

    Both championship games are in domes next week as well. Playoff football just isn’t the same in-doors.

  168. Raider O Says:

    Len,

    I don’t drink which is a good thing. I don’t need to kill any more brain cells. lol

    I do a similar exercise, I bong till failure at night. I’m getting there.

  169. RaiderLen Says:

    O, progressive resistance training. That’s the ticket!

  170. armond Says:

    4eva u good raider fan but dont fall for that garbage. anyone can be taught to become accurate whether they actually do it is to be determined. its a weak argument cuz how would u explain qbs jump in completion pct over their careers? look at young aikman elway stats and see how poor their completion pcts were. how did they jump from barely 50% to the mid high 60s all of sudden? because they learned to be more accurate and they got better wrs around them. if can play it then you can be taught it.

  171. vegas raider Says:

    Sports books seemed like they did well today.

    Not many people cashing tickets, and everybody loves the Jets tomorrow.

  172. Raider O Says:

    Vegas,

    Do you think Romo is better than Brady and Matt Schaub?

  173. GG Says:

    RaiderLen…

    The thing is, Cable isn’t a good coach, and we SHOULD get a better one. BUT, the problem is, the org structure in place is restricting the ability of whichever coaches we have to get the best/most out of the players, not to mention hand-cuffing them with draftees and free agent/trade acquisitions that they mightn’t have wanted. Thing is, the GMs and Owners around the NFL make the big call, but they DO more often listen to their coaches/scouts recommendations whereas Al in the main ignores them. Many inside the building recommended Al draft Crabtree for instance, but he ignored them. Same with Gruden’s draft wants being ignored. Gruden at least was still a top-notch coach that we’d have for decades that he was able to work with whatever players Al saddled him with.

    I guess that’s the “hope” with a new HC after Cable, hoping it’s someone of good coaching reputation, like a Fassell, or Gruden. But Al really makes it hard on his Raiders succeeding when he restricts HCs in the current organizational structure that castrates HC’s from having more authority. Doesn’t help either when he often hires poor-standard HCs like Cable, who you wouldn’t want to give them too much power either.

  174. vegas raider Says:

    Definately better than Scaub, and I would rather have Romo in 2010 than Brady.

    But Tom is a better all-time QB and cheater.

  175. Chris in NY Says:

    Raiders4eve Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
    What the hell is “Who Dat Nation” mean? There is only one nation and thats Raider Nation. Period.

    ——————-

    Exactly. Everyone’s a “nation” now. Browns nation. Lions nation. Buckeye nation. Enough already. There’s only one real sports nation and that’s Raider Nation. It’s because they have the most clearly defined personality of any team in any sport — college, pro or otherwise.

    It’s Raider Nation because you’ll find d-bags like me who live 3,000 miles away writing on a team message board at 2 am (my time) about a team that just finished the season 5-11 two weeks ago.

  176. RaiderLen Says:

    Vedgas, I’d laugh my ass off if the Jets (under Rex Ryan) actually made it to the SB.

    I wonder if Rex would wheel out His Dad the week before leading up to the SB.

    Buddy could talk shnit about Ditka and why He was the reason the Bears won the SB.

  177. Chris in NY Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
    Sports books seemed like they did well today.

    Not many people cashing tickets, and everybody loves the Jets tomorrow.

    ——————-

    I crushed it today. Had the Saints and the over. Had the Colts and the under. Did a 3-way parlay of Saints over, Colts under and Chargers over that’s 2/3s home.

    Of course this means I’ll possibly get crushed tomorrow and wipe out all the gains I made today.

    For the record: I like the Chargers -7 and the over 42 in that game. I like the Cowboys +2.5 but don’t have a good feeling on the over/under in that one at all. Could be a shootout or could be a 20-13 type game. I’ll leave that alone.

    What do you think, Vegas?

  178. Raider O Says:

    Len,

    It’s Failure Time!!

    Vegas,

    I’m not sold on Romo being great. He needs to win in the POs.

    Have a great night Gents.

  179. RaiderLen Says:

    Night O!

    Sleep Well.

  180. Tom cables pimp hand Says:

    4eva u good raider fan but dont fall for that garbage. anyone can be taught to become accurate whether they actually do it is to be determined. its a weak argument cuz how would u explain qbs jump in completion pct over their careers? look at young aikman elway stats and see how poor their completion pcts were. how did they jump from barely 50% to the mid high 60s all of sudden? because they learned to be more accurate and they got better wrs around them. if can play it then you can be taught it.

    …………………………..

    Armond please don’t tell me you’re a jamarcus supporter… I thought all you guys died off already. Jamarcus is a bust, get over it.

  181. vegas raider Says:

    Chris in NY,

    I like the Cowboys and the Chargers as well. Those were my two favorite picks, so I didn’t touch anything today. I was thinking of taking the Ravens, but I didn’t pull the trigger at +6.5. Not after how the Saints looked.

    With both home teams winning, I really like Dallas in the morning.

    Good work today. This season was awful for me. I am limping to the finish, lol.

  182. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Heres something Raider related…

    What ONE position is most critical to getting the Raiders competetive in 2010?

    Can’t say Coach or GM.

    Has to be player.

    Example: Al Davis would say 4.2 CB.

  183. vegas raider Says:

    And I think I like the under in the Cowboys game, but I hate taking unders so I more than likely won’t touch it.

    I’m thinking lots of long drives, lots of 3rd downs, and more than usual FG’s. Could be a weird final score, 22-20 or something like that

  184. RaiderLen Says:

    An O Lineman that can play C, RG, RT simultainiously.

  185. Chris in NY Says:

    I’ve been a big Romo believer for awhile. The Cowboys were nothing for years before he took over. Then they rattle off a 13-3 year and 3 other winning seasons with him at QB. In his 3 full seasons he’s averaging around 4,000 yards and 30 TDs to 14 INTs. He hasn’t had a season with a QB rating below 91.4.

    Plus just watch him play. Great pocket awareness. Great escapability. Always looking downfield to make plays rather than going with quick checkdowns. I’d love the Raiders to have a QB of that caliber. I know he wasn’t great in December until this year but I think that all gets a bit overhyped.

  186. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Look for the Jets to surprise the Chargers.

    Revis is for real. Only seen a few games this season, but he is elite.

    If Nnnamdi hadn’t looked so good against the run and screens on occasion…Nnamdi’s looking like a complete CB but honestly, Revis may be better at coverage…

    I may be biased cuz I hate the Chargers, but I’ve predicted Saints Chargers in the SB.

    Fix could be in ala Jerome Bettis and the “The Bus” and that blatanly rigged Steelers Seahawks super bowl so Bret Favre may make it in.

    Dallas is hot right now and their D can get to the QB…if its Dallas Chargers, Dallas wins…

  187. Nnamdi21 Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
    An O Lineman that can play C, RG, RT simultainiously.

    ===================

    Ha!

  188. vegas raider Says:

    A QB, plain and simple.

    A great QB can magically help the O-line, and maybe even help the Run D. WR’s start making great catches and RB’s start breaking tackles. Coaches play-calling suddenly improves.

    If we don’t upgrade our QB for 16 games in 2010, we stand ZERO chance of doing anything but getting in our own way.

  189. Nnamdi21 Says:

    185. Agreed. His escapability and production on the run reminds me of Rothlisberger when he’s on.

  190. Nnamdi21 Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
    A QB, plain and simple.

    A great QB can magically help the O-line, and maybe even help the Run D. WR’s start making great catches and RB’s start breaking tackles. Coaches play-calling suddenly improves.

    If we don’t upgrade our QB for 16 games in 2010, we stand ZERO chance of doing anything but getting in our own way.

    ========================

    I do agree partially and I know, great is the key word but “good” QB’s like Cutler and Castle didn’t help their teams. Too soon to even begin to say either is or ever was gr4eat, but certainly good and expected to imoprove their teams to play off caliber.

    Put anyone behind Oakland O line and they’re going to have trouble not only with accuracy, but staying up right.

  191. Chris in NY Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
    And I think I like the under in the Cowboys game, but I hate taking unders so I more than likely won’t touch it.

    I’m thinking lots of long drives, lots of 3rd downs, and more than usual FG’s. Could be a weird final score, 22-20 or something like that

    ————————

    I’m with you. My head tells me under in that game as well. Cowboys defense is hot and the noise factor could really hamper the Cowboys offense. Both teams will try to run the ball. But I also hate taking the under on games I watch. It’s like rooting for FGs and sloppy play. I’ll do it if I have a real strong feeling — like I did today thinking a pretty good Ravens D could keep Manning & Co. somewhat in check and that a really banged up Flacco wouldn’t do much — but I prefer not to touch it otherwise.

  192. vegas raider Says:

    Romo’s only problem is that sometimes he seems rattled, has real bad body language and becomes a little inaccurate.

    Peyton was similar when he was younger and also had the “Couldn’t win the Big One” stigma for awhile.

    This year, they might meet in the Super Bowl.

  193. vegas raider Says:

    Nmamdi,

    No doubt that the O-line, and our Run D needs to be improved. Almost all of our positions could use an upgrade.

    I am just one of those guys that thinks if the Raiders somehow traded for Peyton Manning in March this past year, they are in the playoffs.

    Maybe they get bumped in round 1, but the teams who get the best QB play seem to win these days. We all saw the upgrade even Bruce Gradkowski gave this team, and Bruce isn’t anything close to Peyton Manning.

    So, we probably can’t get a Peyton anytime soon, or anything close to it. So the best bet is to bring back Bruce, try to improve EVERYTHING around him, and see if we can compete.

    The sad state of the Oakland Raiders.

    Good night Nation!!

  194. Chris in NY Says:

    Revis is tremendous. The guy is just an absolutely GREAT cover corner.

    I still think the Chargers will find a way to put up points though. A lot of weapons. At home. And as much as we all rag on Norv for the job he’s done as HC until this year, the guy is one of the best playcallers in the game. He’s really on an elite level with just Sean Payton (and MAYBE Ken Whisenhunt despite today’s blowout) as a playcaller and gameplanner. I just don’t think the Jets will be able to shut down the Chargers offense and the Jets offense won’t have the firepower to hang.

  195. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    TJ,..what does Mike tell you bout Cable?…stayin or goin?…it wont leave this blog bro.

    …………….

    LOL. Comment of the day.

  196. raiderzmaverick Says:

    “Indy allowed a league-low 13 sacks”. That’s one heck of a statement considering that they threw more than anyone in the league and ran the last (they were last place in Rushing yards in the ENTIRE league). So, everyone knew they were going to pass. They weren’t running well. And yet, they allowed a league-low in sacks. That’s less than 1 sack per game and Manning isn’t the most mobile QB in the league.

    That’s a GREAT example of what your O-Line can do for you.

  197. 4evaRaider Says:

    Morning NATION!!!!

  198. 4evaRaider Says:

    well I picked the Cards and WOW the Saints took care of them easy

    Jetsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

  199. raiderzmaverick Says:

    4eva….well…..based on your picks (Cards & Jets) I see you’re as delusional as me and each week think somehow the Raiders might win….

  200. Random Drug Tester Says:

    anybody know the Raider’s record vs the Spread this year?

  201. 4evaRaider Says:

    Is that what we are? lol

  202. 4evaRaider Says:

    But Maverick….we are ready 2 turn the corner,I can just feel it!

  203. 4evaRaider Says:

    Vegas would know that but he prolly still counting his winnings from yesterday =)

  204. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Yeah 4eva….and this year I can feel it….we’ll turn the corner soon! Just get a good Offensive Coordinator and a couple key Defensive Cogs in the middle and we’re goin’ to the playoffs….

  205. 4evaRaider Says:

    Yep,I’m interested 2C if Langston the “Road-Grader” Walker will be switched to RG or depending on Gallery LG….Good pick-up he is.

    Yep everyone knows I think we are very soft up the gut,and that must be addressed,imo

    But yeah….We are much improved going into next camp

  206. Florida Pete Says:

    the very biggest need on offense right now is a center…

    it is very unlikely that we could draft a center that could start right away…

    and this years crop of rookies doesn’t appear to have a really good center…

    getting a really good center in FA is probably the one FA we really do need to find…

  207. raidertbone Says:

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 5:17 am

    Yep,I’m interested 2C if Langston the “Road-Grader” Walker will be switched to RG or depending on Gallery LG….Good pick-up he is.

    Yep everyone knows I think we are very soft up the gut,and that must be addressed,imo

    But yeah….We are much improved going into next camp
    ___________________________________________

    Hard to say, at this point, if we are much improved. HC needs to be cleared up first, and some assistants need to back their bags (Lal = LOL). The circus at QB needs to go away, we need to NOT have a soft first week of camp like we did last year. On the upside, Seymour will be in camp to help create a good mindset — let’s see what we can put around him. In a way, I am dreading the draft like some monstrous typhoon that will set us back again another few years.

  208. raidertbone Says:

    # Florida Pete Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 5:33 am

    the very biggest need on offense right now is a center…

    it is very unlikely that we could draft a center that could start right away…

    and this years crop of rookies doesn’t appear to have a really good center…

    getting a really good center in FA is probably the one FA we really do need to find…
    __________________________________________

    I just hope Okung is still on the board when we pick first. If he’s gone, then I would go McClain.

  209. neilb Says:

    Morning all.

  210. 4evaRaider Says:

    =) Neilb!

  211. neilb Says:

    You’re talking ’bout the O line…..what happened to Barnes and will he be back not season ?

  212. neilb Says:

    Morning 4eva!!

  213. Florida Pete Says:

    McClain… absolutley…

    Dan Williams, DT… 2nd round…

    Micah Johnson, another ILB in the 3rd (3A)…

    why 2 LBs you ask… ’cause with Williams, we can go 3-4… and this would give us two stub ILBs…

    besides… nearly all of our linebackers aer free agents now…

    the above 3 people… would give a very good D… especially against the run…

    i hope…

  214. neilb Says:

    Actually had some sunshine here…..first time in over a month!!

  215. Florida Pete Says:

    Barnes should be sent packing…

  216. neilb Says:

    Pete….

    Ref 3-4.I’m all for it.I want the Raiders to use Scott as a OLB.

  217. neilb Says:

    Didn’t Barnes only sign a 1 yr contract ?

  218. raidertbone Says:

    # Florida Pete Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 5:47 am

    McClain… absolutley…

    Dan Williams, DT… 2nd round…

    Micah Johnson, another ILB in the 3rd (3A)…

    why 2 LBs you ask… ’cause with Williams, we can go 3-4… and this would give us two stub ILBs…

    besides… nearly all of our linebackers aer free agents now…

    the above 3 people… would give a very good D… especially against the run…

    i hope…
    _________________________________________

    I agree that we need to focus on defense; but we need at least ONE quality O-lineman to plug in right away (at least one a year for the next four drafts).

  219. raidertbone Says:

    So who do we keep this year – Morrison or Howard? Both? neither?

  220. neilb Says:

    “So who do we keep this year – Morrison or Howard? Both? neither?”

    Think like Al……..which one’s fastest ?

  221. neilb Says:

    I would keep both of them and draft/free agent the best inside LB I can.I want to use Scott as a free lance,line up where you want and cause havoc OLB.

  222. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Oh GOODIE its that time of year when all the draft experts, wannabe NFL scouts, and fantasy GM’s sharpen their pencils..

    I myself can hardly wait for the NFL combine to start. I get my best nap of the year on that day!

  223. 4evaRaider Says:

    Keep Howard.

    There was a play in the Cincy game where the Cincy RB was going off RT and Kirk was closing but,the RB gave a little juke and Kirk bit….Kirk was very close and knew he had the help close,but he shoulda DOVE at the RB.He is rarely in position at the right time and even when he is,he wont make the play.He gotta go,imo

  224. 4evaRaider Says:

    Well we’re vewy happy you enjoy our commentary Mista!

  225. NFL News and Notes - January 17, 2010 Says:

    [...] While Oakland Raiders head coach Tom Cable twists in the wind, so too do the assistant coaches on the staff. [...]

  226. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Commentary?

    lmao

  227. 4evaRaider Says:

    Got something “better” to add?

  228. Mistabr0wn Says:

    So picture yourself as Al Davis, you have 3 Super Bowl trophies, Hall of Fame inductee, instrumental in the AFL merger.

    Its now 2010. You own the worst record in the NFL the last 7 seasons and your options for a Head Coach are Rob Ryan or Tom Cable.

    Of course AL is watching Norv Turner shine after being fired, he is watching Payton succeed after turning down Oakland for a job, observing Rex Ryan turn the Jets around in 1 year, of course rookie QB’s like Flacco, Sanchez, and Matt Ryan have out performed JaMarshmallow Ruffell’s.

    Just win baby!

  229. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Yes 4eva,
    #229 is commentary, your draft drivel is just fairy tale BS.

  230. 4evaRaider Says:

    I am certain it is most difficult for Big Al

  231. Mistabr0wn Says:

    4eva, now that I’ve shown you what “commentary” actually is lets see if you can raise the bar or at least limbo underneath it.

  232. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Great commentary!
    __________________
    # 4evaRaider Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 6:38 am

    I am certain it is most difficult for Big Al

  233. neilb Says:

    You forgot your 80 years old and have nothing but sycophantic yes men around you.

  234. Mistabr0wn Says:

    4eva, why do you & tj and a few others refer to Mr Davis as “Big Al” ?

    Back in the day it was appropriate but have you seen him lately? Just curious..

  235. 4evaRaider Says:

    You’ve shown me nothing Mista….just a bunch of opinion that has been stated many times before.You have shown me that you’re just another sheep,writing what you read

  236. neilb Says:

    4eva….

    Have you had MistabRowns’ sister ?

  237. neilb Says:

    Just curious….

  238. raiderzmaverick Says:

    # neilb Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 6:04 am

    “So who do we keep this year – Morrison or Howard? Both? neither?”

    Think like Al……..which one’s fastest ?
    —————————————–
    If that’s the case, we keep Howard. He’s one of the fastest LBs in the NFL.

    But, what I’m worried about is picking Offensive line. I get the idea that Cable had his say our last 2 years of Tackle Free Agent busts who were absolutely HORRIBLE. So, I’m a bit worried on that front.

    But, Langston Walker turned out looking pretty damned good at Guard – especially considering he hadn’t played it since 8 years or so in 1st year College. I would keep him and plug him in at right guard. It would mean one less hole we’d need to fill in F/A or Draft. FOR SURE I’d draft a new RT and probably try to get some competition for Henderson who gave up one of the highest sacks allowed for any tackle.

  239. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    The bottom line…Al Davis has invested Millions of dollars in young players like JaDarren Heyward-Huff.

    Tom Cable has done NOTHING to develop this player. In fact he’s benched Huff and JaDavis and McFadden doesn’t get carries. Plus DHB was the worst rookie receiver in the NFL this year.

    I think Davis looks at that and ask himself whether Cable is capable of developing those guys.

    Now, will Cable stay? Depends on if one of the other candidates (Fassel, Ryan, Green, Harbaugh or whoever else he’s talking to…and he is talking) can convince Davis that they do have a plan for JaMichael McFadden-Bey

  240. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Neil, feel free to check with me first. I dont have a sister.

  241. 4evaRaider Says:

    I thought Mista was his Sista hahahahahaaahahahahaahahahahaahhaahahaa

  242. Mistabr0wn Says:

    4eva I’ve shown you nothing? Your a blind man, not my problem.

    Continue your expert draft knowledge with Pete its great “commentary”

  243. 4evaRaider Says:

    MistaSista lol

  244. raiderzmaverick Says:

    God – sometimes I think we must be like have Redsox and Yankee fans in here with how much useless bickering there is.

  245. Mistabr0wn Says:

    If you 2 clowns are going to do “your momma” & sister jokes just let me know and i’ll log off for an hour and comeback after your done jerking ea other off..

  246. 4evaRaider Says:

    If you scroll up I really dont care who we draft anymore.Just positions

  247. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Mistabrown,

    What else is their to talk about this team but the offseason. It sure is hell not the regular season, where all the hope is snuffed out over the 1st 4 weeks.

    It really doesn’t matter at all with this team. They can’t win. Really.

    I would like to see Davis just get a competent coach that can get the team competitive.

    like Norco Bob, I am not going to get worked up about this team losing and just enjoy Sundays….just like I did the last 8 weeks of the past season.

    Its Davis’ team. If he chooses to run it into the ditch…so be it.

  248. neilb Says:

    Excuse me MistabRown !! If coming here makes you so angry then why come ?

    I’ll be leaving in ’bout 30 mins…..that okay with you ?

  249. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Morrison vs. Howard.

    I am keeping Thomas Howard. He makes a good WILL linebacker and he makes plays in the passing game.

    Get a veteran run stuffer up the middle and for goodness sakes…find a real lane clogging NT that can take up blockers.

    Until the Raiders address the NT and MLB…the defense will always be garbage. and it is garbage.

    Unfortunately, Al Davis values speed and pass rush over braun and run stopping

  250. Mistabr0wn Says:

    SnB, what is there to talk about during the season? The post season drama is usually more entertaining than the regular season, unfortunately. Not much more or less from season to off season but I get your point.

    Some of these folks claim to know about an entire class of college athletes its comical..

  251. Mistabr0wn Says:

    I’m not angry, maybe you are?

    Why wait 30mins?
    ______________

    # neilb Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 7:05 am

    Excuse me MistabRown !! If coming here makes you so angry then why come ?

    I’ll be leaving in ’bout 30 mins…..that okay with you ?

  252. neilb Says:

    Maverick…

    Good point ’bout Cable and free agency O-line players.You’d expect more from an ex O-line coach.

  253. neilb Says:

    Mista…

    There’s a premiership game starting at 4pm.If I leave here in 30 mins time I can walk my dog before the game starts.

    Nope,I’m not angry either.

  254. 4evaRaider Says:

    He walked the dog for five days!

  255. Plunketthead Says:

    I found that on a blog this morning and just wanted to share it…….. and start trouble : )

  256. Plunketthead Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 7:14 am
    He walked the dog for five days!

    That reminds me. I got a chinese cookbook for Christmas.
    101 ways to wok your dog

  257. 4evaRaider Says:

    lmao Plunk!!!!

  258. La Milicia Negra Says:

    I would love to see the chargers lose to Drew Brees in the SB…

  259. neilb Says:

    Pluketthead..

    Not sure if you knew this or not but I’m English and I don’t hate America.

  260. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Random Drug Tester Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 3:17 am
    ———————————————-
    Hey Mr. North American awareness guy, ever hear of a country named Canada?

    (Hint: just North of the 49th parallel)
    P.S. it’s not called North Korea
    ======================================================
    Of course you Canadians and Europeans can “afford” other things thanks to the American defense subsidy it provides the free world:

    Defense Spending as a % of GDP
    USA: 4.1%
    ———–
    Canada: 1.1%
    Denmark: 1.5%
    Swiss: 1%
    Spain 1.2%
    Belg: 1.3%
    UK: 2.4%
    France: 2.6%

    Spare me the whole “the US chooses to spend” b.s…because if we dialed it all back and you had no defender of last resort…or, should I say, “the ultimate deterrant” you all wouldn’t be able to afford all those perks you get.

  261. neilb Says:

    Sorry…missed the “n”.

  262. vegas raider Says:

    Random Drug Tester Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 4:26 am
    anybody know the Raider’s record vs the Spread this year?

    ************************************

    Vegas nailed it this year, 8-8 against the spread. All 5 wins, the 2 Chargers game and the Ravens game we all covered.

    Amazingly, the Raiders were never once favored this year. Not even at home against the Chiefs, they were 2 point dogs.

  263. Plunketthead Says:

    Manning & co looked great. The Colt D gets beat up pretty good but they seem to rise up to the occasion.

    How about Reggie?
    He looked like he installed a 6th gear.
    If only DMAC could run like that

  264. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Plunketthead – for sure there are some really good people in America.

    Also some who will go through hell to make sure it turns into hell so they can forward their own agenda.

    Good thing is that I think we still have plenty of people with big hearts and a good viewpoint so we’re not totally down the tubes yet.

  265. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Yeah, Plunketthead, Bush looked ON FIRE yesterday in the game! Really turned things up a notch.

  266. neilb Says:

    That’s a awful joke!!

  267. 4evaRaider Says:

    Plunketthead….

    If you look at it it that context,it would seem that Haiti is a more important state than Louisiana as the wheels are fully engaged in Haiti and Louisiana was still in need at this point in time.Hmmmm

  268. neilb Says:

    LMN…

    There you go,you drew with Stoke but we got hammered by Chelsea!!

  269. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Plunk,
    Hugo Chavez has donated 1 single plane of supplies, wow! We lead the world in effort & dollars spent but get punked by moron leftist right here in this Country. If you didnt catch Danny Glover’s anti-amer rant you didnt miss a thing.

  270. raiderzmaverick Says:

    That one run bush did was INCREDIBLE!

  271. Mistabr0wn Says:

    4eva,
    Im pretty sure Haiti isnt a “state” but you are the expert on drafts and left wing propaganda not me.

  272. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    4eva,

    America learned lessons from the Hurricane and the Tsunami and are putting it into action as we speak.

    As I was saying to some folks yesterday, when you look at the deeds and not the rhetoric….few countries match Americas commitment to the world

  273. Plunketthead Says:

    Neil

    That was not for you. You have my respect as you always conduct yourself in a sane and civilized manner.

    That was for the person who have been taking cheap shots at America and Christians on a constant basis for the past 4 years in this blog.

    I can take a dart “cheap shot” now and then because America is not all peace and goodness. Our leaders in DC are vile, evil and dispicable for the most part.

  274. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Random Drug Tester,

    What would Canada’s spending look like if it had a border with Mexico and the Carribean vs. a large border with the USA and the Arctic Ocean?

  275. Mistabr0wn Says:

    LMAO
    ___________________________________________________

    4evaRaider Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 7:24 am

    Plunketthead….

    If you look at it it that context,it would seem that Haiti is a more important state

  276. neilb Says:

    It’s okay Plunketthead – no problem here.

  277. Mistabr0wn Says:

    The 4eva’s of the world will ignore the billions we have sank into Haiti only to have their dictatorship pocket the $$$ and pi$$ on the citizens and blame us for their corruption & primitive way of life, typical liberal.

  278. 4evaRaider Says:

    I was being facetious Mista on the Haiti “state” thing Mista…..But sense you gotta have it spelled out 4 you….

    Katrina was a terrible tradgedy for all involved and it took you publicans weeks and months to respond.Why was that? You’re doing a fine job Brownie!

  279. Mistabr0wn Says:

    4eva, months? You are saying it took months?

    I wasnt aware the Red Cross & rescue teams, fire fighters, etc etc were “republicans”. I will make a note, thanks!
    _____________________________

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 7:31 am

    Katrina was a terrible tradgedy for all involved and it took you publicans weeks and months to respond.Why was that? You’re doing a fine job Brownie!

  280. neilb Says:

    Like I said before…..time for me to leave and take the dog for his walk……….if that’s okay with you MistabrOwn…

    Enjoy your Sunday everyone…

  281. 4evaRaider Says:

    Oh and Mistabrown….have you compiled that list yet that shows Obama has already spent 3 times as much as Bush….you know that 15 TRILLION you keep harping about that Obama has already spent…..Blind as a bat you are Mista,and that explains why you are a sheep

  282. 4evaRaider Says:

    U2 Neilb!

  283. vegas raider Says:

    raiderzmaverick Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 1:16 am
    “Indy allowed a league-low 13 sacks”. That’s one heck of a statement considering that they threw more than anyone in the league and ran the last (they were last place in Rushing yards in the ENTIRE league). So, everyone knew they were going to pass. They weren’t running well. And yet, they allowed a league-low in sacks. That’s less than 1 sack per game and Manning isn’t the most mobile QB in the league.

    That’s a GREAT example of what your O-Line can do for you.

    ****************************************

    Your stats are true, no doubt about that. But let’s look deeper at it.

    The Colts started 3 different guys at LT this year. The guy starting there now, Charlie Johnson, was a 6th round pick, a collegiate TE at Oklahoma State. He replaced Tony Ugoh, who replaced Tarik Glen in 2008.

    Their starting guard this year, was hurt last year and didn’t take a snap in 2008. He is a 4th rounder. Jeff Saturday, the Pro Bowler, UNDRAFTED!! Kyle Devan, who had 10 starts this year, was cut by the Redskins in this offseason and was also undrafted.

    So at some points in time, this great Colts O-line consisted of an undrafted C and RG, and a 6th round pick at LT. And 40% of the line changed from the year before.

    The only constant is Peyton and Saturday. You can surround them with late draft picks and undrafted guys, which they did, and it still is the best O-line in football? Please. They also have one of the lowest YPC when every team in the world is invitin them to run.

    Peyton is great and makes everyone around him better.

  284. Plunketthead Says:

    Dear Pat Robertson,

    I know that you know that all press is good press, so I appreciate the shout-out. And you make God look like a big mean bully who kicks people when they are down, so I’m all over that action.

    But when you say that Haiti has made a pact with me, it is totally humiliating. I may be evil incarnate, but I’m no welcher. The way you put it, making a deal with me leaves folks desperate and impoverished.

    Sure, in the afterlife, but when I strike bargains with people, they first get something here on earth — glamour, beauty, talent, wealth, fame, glory, a golden fiddle. Those Haitians have nothing, and I mean nothing. And that was before the earthquake. Haven’t you seen “Crossroads”? Or “Damn Yankees”?

    If I had a thing going with Haiti, there’d be lots of banks, skyscrapers, SUVs, exclusive night clubs, Botox — that kind of thing. An 80 percent poverty rate is so not my style. Nothing against it — I’m just saying: Not how I roll.

    You’re doing great work, Pat, and I don’t want to clip your wings — just, come on, you’re making me look bad. And not the good kind of bad. Keep blaming God. That’s working. But leave me out of it, please. Or we may need to renegotiate your own contract.

    Best, Satan

  285. Mistabr0wn Says:

    4eva, a week ago you said you dont watch the news. Its evident in your “commentary” that you dont watch any news but why do you continue to open your mouth and remove all doubt ?

  286. 4evaRaider Says:

    We have sank Billions of $$$$ all over the world Mista,but you wouldnt know why.Its called diplomacy which in turn opens dialogue and sometimes vice-verse.Its the Democratic way,Mista.Only IDIOTS would be lead around like sheep and attack other countries without seeking dialogue

  287. vegas raider Says:

    Everyone hear that Tim Tebow is doing a Pro Life commercial for Focus on the Family during the Super Bowl?

  288. 4evaRaider Says:

    where did Obama spend the 15 trillion you keep saying he spent Mista?

  289. Mistabr0wn Says:

    4eva,
    0bamas own projections (HIS OWN) say the defecit will increase 5 times in 4 years. 0bama keeps saying we “need” to spend our way out of this recession even though govt cant create jobs (see his 800 billion job stimulus). As a lib dem you should know their solution for any problem is to throw money down a hole.

    Keep drinking those jizz cocktails with extra protein..

  290. 4evaRaider Says:

    All your views are jaded toward you way of thinking Mista and it shows

    The End

  291. 4evaRaider Says:

    I wouldnt know anything about whatever cocktails you drink Mista.But it sounds like you know a LOT about them as you constantly reefer to them.Yep thats your drink of choice as we can ALL see….You really dont have to tell us all this Mista,but if it makes you feel better,go ahead

  292. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Well, 4eva, from what I’ve seen on the spending by Obama, I also see a bunch of wasted money going town the tubes. The latest bill is a HUGE boost for the pharma industry which practically forces any pregnant mother to see a psychiatrist (because suddenly they’re all mentally unstable) to be drugged at government cost. It’s already a multi-trillion dollar industry.

    Just look at the amount of handouts without any way to pay for them. No exchange, no increase in production of America = down the tubes.

  293. vegas raider Says:

    Is it the O-line or the QB?

    Surely the Colts O-line is one of the best at pass-protecting but why? I am not convinced you could bring all those guys and put them around Jamarcus or Frye and it would make much difference.

    I say an O-line is only as good as your QB. If O-line is so important, why haven’t the Colts used a 1st round pick on O-line in 10 years? Because they can draft collegiate TE’s in the 6th round, surround him with Peyton’s knowledge, decision-making and ability to read Defenses and plug him at LT with no fall off.

    Amazing.

  294. Plunketthead Says:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8463921.stm

    Senegal’s president says he will offer free land and “repatriation” to people affected by the earthquake in Haiti.

    President Abdoulaye Wade said Haitians were sons and daughters of Africa since Haiti was founded by slaves, including some thought to be from Senegal.

    “The president is offering voluntary repatriation to any Haitian that wants to return to their origin,” said Mr Wade’s spokesman, Mamadou Bemba Ndiaye.

    Tuesday’s earthquake killed tens of thousands and left many more homeless.

    Buildings have been reduced to rubble, the distribution of aid is slow, and people have been flooding out of the devastated capital, Port-au-Prince.

    “Senegal is ready to offer them parcels of land – even an entire region. It all depends on how many Haitians come,” Mr Bemba Ndiaye said.

    “If it’s just a few individuals, then we will likely offer them housing or small pieces of land. If they come en masse we are ready to give them a region.”

    The spokesman emphasised that if a region was given, it would be in a fertile part of the country rather than in its parched deserts, the Associated Press news agency reported.

  295. 4evaRaider Says:

    Well we can spend the money here for our citizens our we could waste it on silly world stage antics i.e.Iraq

  296. vegas raider Says:

    All right I get the drift, a little too early to talk football aparently.

    I’ll be back in a few.

  297. Plunketthead Says:

    Maverick

    The day after the Senate signed the bill, Pharm and health insurance stocks went up 10%. That tells me everything I need to know

    Why are the current meetings being held in secret when we were promised transparent meetings.

  298. M Lonetree Says:

    Plunketthead,

    your post 284. Yep, that about sums that up.

  299. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Maverick, before you spend too much time with 4eva just an FYI….he doesn’t watch the news but comments on the news..lol

    Good luck!

  300. raiderzmaverick Says:

    There’s no way Payton gets sacked only 13 times if the O-line isn’t doing their job. I don’t care how good the QB is. It will make a difference for sure as he has a quick release and can feel the pressure….but if he’s always under attack he couldn’t be as effective as he is.

  301. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Because what 0bama is doing behind closed doors is so despicable & corrupt he doesn’t want C-Span cameras there.

    Hope & change!

    _____________________

    # Plunketthead Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 7:56 am

    Why are the current meetings being held in secret when we were promised transparent meetings.

  302. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Mistabrown, the news isn’t the only source of information. In fact it’s often reports on with bias.

  303. vegas raider Says:

    Raiderzmaverick,

    Do you think the LT for the Colts, a collegiate TE, 6th round pick in his second year, is really that much better than Mario?

    He is better, because Peyton MADE HIM better. The Colts had a LG who started 10 games, and was undrafted and released by the Redskins last year. Is he really any good? Only because Peyton MAKES him good.

  304. Mistabr0wn Says:

    The 0bama health care bill is so bad that a Dem Pres has to bribe other Dems behind closed doors for their votes, that tells you everything you need to know!

    Hope & Change!

  305. 4evaRaider Says:

    I find the Economist very accurate

  306. Plunketthead Says:

    lol Vegas

    Sorry about that.
    Manning is amazing. I think he demands the same from the Olinemen as he does from the Wide recievers and it must affect the entire team.
    Did you see Garcon run Reed down from behind and punch the ball out. That was one hell of a heads up play.

    A huge part of the team is Manning but I think coaching is just at much in play. Dungy put the system in and they are able to have new players step up and fill in.

    It wasnt just this year, Dungy has done it for some time, including TB. Bellicheat has been able to do it for a few years at NE but I think many other facters were involved, including cheating.

    In conclusion, a lot of that team success is due to Dungy.

  307. Raider O Says:

    Politics!!!

    SnB,

    America doesn’t care about the world, and we are not it’s protector. We protect our special interests!!! We also do a lot of great things for other countries, but our military spending has nothing to do with protecting the world. It’s a business. We sell weapons!!

  308. vegas raider Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 7:55 am
    Well we can spend the money here for our citizens our we could waste it on silly world stage antics i.e.

    **********************************

    Like that Global Warming nonsense in LMN’s neck of the woods a few weeks ago? We spent like $100 million on that shame, which was all tax-payer money.

    Couldn’t they just have teleconferenced in?

  309. Mistabr0wn Says:

    You’re right!
    I forgot that 4eva gets his “news” from M Moore.
    LOL

    __________________

    # raiderzmaverick Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 7:59 am

    Mistabrown, the news isn’t the only source of information. In fact it’s often reports on with bias.

  310. raiderzmaverick Says:

    # vegas raider Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 8:01 am

    Raiderzmaverick,

    Do you think the LT for the Colts, a collegiate TE, 6th round pick in his second year, is really that much better than Mario?

    He is better, because Peyton MADE HIM better. The Colts had a LG who started 10 games, and was undrafted and released by the Redskins last year. Is he really any good? Only because Peyton MAKES him good.
    ——————————-
    The QB can only make the line look so good. It’s obvious if you have a bad o-line and the QB is always getting hit to the ground. Because that’s what would happen. With a horrible O-Line, even if the QB’s great you’ll see him beat up all the time as he’ll get rid of the ball just before getting hit. And I don’t see Payton hurt much or even picked up from the ground too often, so they must protect him pretty well. Maybe it’s good coaching?

  311. raiderzmaverick Says:

    # Mistabr0wn Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 8:01 am

    The 0bama health care bill is so bad that a Dem Pres has to bribe other Dems behind closed doors for their votes, that tells you everything you need to know!

    Hope & Change!
    ——————-
    Yeah, and they had to push it through Christmas even when apparently many were not in attendance to vote.

  312. Plunketthead Says:

    If I was Al, I would give Dungy a big fat stake in the team and complete control.
    Dungy and Parcell are the only two I would have complete faith in.

    Tony would probaly go after Tebow and the Oakland Raiders would be in the playoffs for the next ten years.

  313. raiderzmaverick Says:

    But Vegas Raider…..the QB can make the line play better and as a leader can make everyone around him step up their game I think.

  314. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Yeah, and they had to push it through Christmas even when apparently many were not in attendance to vote.

    After having thrown in a changed draft just a few days earlier

  315. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Because they had to fly their jets allover the world leaving a HUGE carbon footprint to tell the rest of us how we need to sacrifice for the good of the planet.

    lmao
    __________________________

    # vegas raider Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 8:03 am

    Like that Global Warming nonsense in LMN’s neck of the woods a few weeks ago? We spent like $100 million on that shame, which was all tax-payer money.

    Couldn’t they just have teleconferenced in?

  316. vegas raider Says:

    I am not saying they don’t do a good job pass-blocking. They do a GREAT JOB!! But they aren’t asked to do what Jamarcus asks of his O-line. Peyton is telling his O-line who is blitzing and knows where to go with ball IMMEDIATELY after the snap. He makes there job a million times easier, hence all their success. That’s my point.

    Again, you are looking at an O-line of undrafted guys and late round picks. A second year, 6th round pick who played TE in college at LT?? Unheard of.

  317. Twocents Says:

    “Give me liberty or give me death.” Patrick Henry, 1775

    “Give me free stuff or I’ll kill you.” America, 2010

  318. Dude Says:

    Plunkett,

    The Raiders already have a TE. Why would they go after Tebow? I guess he could play H-Back/FB but I really doubt he would make difference enough to put this club in the playoffs.

  319. Random Drug Tester Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 7:21 am
    Random Drug Tester Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 4:26 am
    anybody know the Raider’s record vs the Spread this year?

    ************************************

    Vegas nailed it this year, 8-8 against the spread. All 5 wins, the 2 Chargers game and the Ravens game we all covered.

    Amazingly, the Raiders were never once favored this year. Not even at home against the Chiefs, they were 2 point dogs.
    —————————

    Thanks Vegas!

  320. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Raider O,

    When the Balkans were burning…where was the rest of the world…wringing its hands while Muslim Albanians and Bosnians were being slaughtered en-mass…..

    Only ONE country was capable of going in there with the force to make a difference…..go there today and the place is stabalizing….you can even fly there if you wish right now.

    4.1% of GDP buys a lot of stuff that gives us the ability to do things.

    If you are going to criticize U.S policy, then please be specific….for example…criticize the US for the Academy of the Americas…that was a truly a dubious initiative, where the US gave military training to Latin American soldiers backing anti-communist movements, the Academy was concieved to combat Latin American Communism but had a negative effect of creating right-wing strong men and undermining the very democracy we wanted to represent…….

    Its the generalist conspiracy theories…not backed up by anything but conjecture that ticks me off…AMmerican imperialism…grab for resources…BS like that..generalist stuff LMN was launching yesterday…I can say generalities about any society or nation…give me specifics before taking shots at US policy.

    BTW, are you telling me that Russia, China, the UK and France don’t sell weapons?

  321. Plunketthead Says:

    I have an extreme dislike for the mile high mules and the crackboys.
    I was in Dallas at a Texas sized bar when Theisman got his leg snapped. They were showing replays, you could see and hear his leg snap in half and the crackboys were tossing their hats and firing their guns (not really) and whooping and hollering.

    I hope Brett & All Day light them up

  322. vegas raider Says:

    I heard Rodney Harrison talk about how great Peyton is at tipping off his O-lineman about who is going to blitz. He said guys that aren’t even showing blitz sometimes, but are due to blitz, would get spotted by Peyton and he would tip off his O-line,

    If he knows who is coming, tells his O-lineman so, goes in shotgun and gets rid of the ball quickly and accurately, the D stands no chance. The Ravens would blitz guys yesterday, they would go UNTOUCHED and still had no effect on the play as Peyton just hit the open man underneath before they could get there.

    What can you do?

  323. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Part of the new health care plan….

    http://www.cchr.org/mothers_act.html

  324. Plunketthead Says:

    Vegas, what do you think about Dungy’s system being responsible for a big chunk of the success, even this year.

  325. raiderzmaverick Says:

    I think having a good plan in Indi and sticking to it with continuity and continuing to build obviously got them to where they are today. And that did start with Dungy and it is carrying over for sure. Much better than the Raiders did after Gruden left.

  326. Plunketthead Says:

    Dude

    I was just throwing stuff in the air to talk some football.
    But in answer to your question, I would let Tony decide who to build the team around.

  327. 4evaRaider Says:

    So just remember that its a Grand Illusion

  328. Raider O Says:

    Vegas,

    I would try to take Manning out of the game by:

    1- Keeping him on the bench, and try to rush for 1st downs and a few TDs.
    2- shut fown his fav WRs out of the game RW and DC.
    3- blitz him from the middle.

  329. Random Drug Tester Says:

    I think Tony Ugoh was a 1st-Rounder.

  330. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Okay – if you could bring in top free agents at 3 positions, what would choose?

  331. jhill Says:

    Vegas,

    We are not getting Manning, lol!

    Russell will NEVER be a Manning. ANd neither will Gradkowski.

    It’s an UNREAL comparison or expectation.

  332. raiderzmaverick Says:

    DT
    RT
    QB (or MLB)

  333. vegas raider Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 8:21 am
    Vegas, what do you think about Dungy’s system being responsible for a big chunk of the success, even this year.

    *******************************

    Well…..there certainly is the domino effect. Dungy taught Caldwell a good chunk of what he knows. Dungy also brought a disciplined, quality locker room that is continuing in his place. So they are continuing what Dungy had going on.

    But I think Dungy was the manager of men, and a guy peoople loved to play for, but his last few years, he was on cruise-control, staying out of Peyton’s way and assisting on the defensive side of things. He didn’t call any plays and didn’t seem THAT involved with the X and O’s and all that stuff. He has his system and developed that system so well, that he could sit back and basically watch.

    So you are right about it. A good chunk of their success is a continuation of what Dungy did so well for so long.

  334. jhill Says:

    raiderzmaverick Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 8:29 am

    Okay – if you could bring in top free agents at 3 positions, what would choose?

    ——————————————————-

    In order …

    Center

    RT

    WR

  335. Dude Says:

    Plunkett,

    I gotcha. Was beginning to think I was in the wrong room. Tebow cant throw and wont be a QB. As far as Dungy goes, I wonder how he would be viewed if the Colts would have turned in a card that said “Ryan Leaf”??

  336. vegas raider Says:

    Random Drug Tester Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 8:29 am
    I think Tony Ugoh was a 1st-Rounder.

    ***************************

    2nd rounder, and he was benched 5 games into the season. Replaced by Charlie Johnson a 2006 6th round pick, a TE from Oklahoma State.

    I did a lot of research for my thesis this morning, lol.

  337. jhill Says:

    Whoa!

    SnB talking US foreign policy?

  338. Dude Says:

    Center is the least important position on the line. Go ahead and scratch that position off the list. A GOOD veteran WR would be nice but it would be even nicer if he had someone to throw to him. Russell+Gradkowski+Frye= The worst QB trio in the NFL by FARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

  339. Random Drug Tester Says:

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 7:21 am
    Defense Spending as a % of GDP
    USA: 4.1%
    ———–
    Canada: 1.1%
    Denmark: 1.5%
    Swiss: 1%
    Spain 1.2%
    Belg: 1.3%
    UK: 2.4%
    France: 2.6%
    ——————————————-

    Amount spent and actual efficiency are 2 different things.

    Canada prefers to contribute it’s efforts to UN Peace-keeping activities.

  340. jhill Says:

    The 0bama health care bill

    ——————————————————-

    LOL!

    You mean “the guys who got Obama elected” health care bill, right?

  341. Plunketthead Says:

    11 Clear Signs That The U.S. Economy Is Headed Into The Toilet

    The vast majority of the talking heads on television are still speaking of the current economic collapse as if it is a temporary “recession” that will soon be over. So far, the vast majority of the American people seem to believe this as well, although for many Americans there is a very deep gnawing in the pit of their stomachs that is telling them that there is something very, very wrong this time around. The truth is that the foundations of the U.S. economy have been destroyed by an orgy of government, corporate and individual debt that has gone on for decades. It was the greatest party in the history of the world, but now the party is over. The following are 11 signs from just this past month that show that the U.S. economy is headed into the toilet and will not be recovering….

    #1) When even Wal-Mart is closing stores you know things are bad. Wal-Mart announced on Monday that it will close 10 money-losing Sam’s Club stores and will cut 1,500 jobs in order to reduce costs. So if even Wal-Mart has to shut down stores, what chance do other retailers have?

    #2) Americans are going broke at a staggering pace. 1.41 million Americans filed for personal bankruptcy in 2009 – a 32 percent increase over 2008.

    #3) American workers are working harder than ever and yet making less. After adjusting for inflation, pay for production and non-supervisory workers (80 percent of the private workforce) is 9% lower than it was in 1973. But those Americans who do still have jobs are the fortunate ones.

    #4) Unemployment is absolutely exploding all over the United States. Minority groups have been hit particularly hard. For example, unemployment on many U.S. Indian reservations is over 80 percent.

  342. Raider O Says:

    SnB,

    You want examples:

    1- Afghanistan: we halped them against the USSR, and then left them alone to kill each other with all the weapons we gave them.
    2- 2nd Iraq War.
    3- Palestine & !srael: we don’t get really involved.
    4- Russia & Sheshnia: we haven’t done anything

    Do you want more examples??

  343. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Who is the coach of the Colts? Do they even have a coach?

    That guy is the stealthiest no name coach of a playoff team I’ve ever seen! I think Manning is the coach..

  344. vegas raider Says:

    Jhill,

    They both play the same position, so it is a fair comparision, as far as what they ask of their O-lineman. There is a light-years difference, sure, but the point is, is their LT really that much better at LT than Mario. The guys started playing tackle 3 years ago for the first time in his life!!!

    Is Kyle Devan, an undrafted G that was cut in the offseason by the Skins, really that much better than our undrafted, previously waived Cooper Carlisle? I really don’t think so, they are just in better systems, with an expert QB who makes there job easier than any other O-line in football.

  345. jhill Says:

    Center is the least important position on the line.

    ——————————————————-

    LMFAO!

  346. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Random Drug Tester,

    4.1% buys aircraft carriers…..those same carriers that are now helping out in Haiti right now.

    It also buys a nuclear deterrent that prevented the Soviet Union from marching right across western europe…allowed LMM to blog from a Denmark as opposed to the D.S.S.R

    Just do me this favor….tell me what the world looks like over the last..say 35 years…if the U.S preferred to contribute its efforts to UN Peace-Keeping Activities

  347. jhill Says:

    Damn O!

    How far up do I have to scroll to find your comment that sparked a response from SnB, lol?

  348. Dude Says:

    Jhill,

    I thought it was funny as hell too, bro. I mean seriously, listing C as a priority in free agency!! LOL!! Good one son. Hillarious.

  349. Plunketthead Says:

    Dude

    I think Tony would still have success. Like Vegas just said, men will go to war for him on every Sunday.

  350. Plunketthead Says:

    #5) Unfortunately the employment situation is showing no signs of turning around. December was actually the worst month for U.S. unemployment since the so-called ”Great Recession” began.

    #6) So just how bad are things when compared to past recessions? During the 2001 recession, the U.S. economy lost 2% of its jobs and it took four years to get them back. This time the U.S. economy has lost more than 5% of its jobs and there is no sign that the bleeding of jobs will stop any time soon.

    #7) Can you imagine trying to get your first job in this economic climate? Our young men and women either can’t get work or have given up on work altogether. The percentage of Americans 16 to 24 who have jobs is 13 percent lower than ten years ago.

    #8) So where did all the jobs go? Over the past few decades we have allowed the corporate giants to ship mountains of American jobs overseas, and there are signs that this trend is only going to get worse. In fact, Princeton University economist Alan S. Blinder estimates that 22% to 29% of all current U.S. jobs will be offshorable within two decades. So get ready for even more of our jobs to be shipped off to Mexico, China and India.

    #9) All of these job losses are leading to defaults on mortgages. Over the past couple of years we have seen the American Dream in reverse. According to a report that was just released, delinquent home loans at government-controlled mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac surged 20 percent from July through September.

    #10) But that is nothing compared to what is coming. A massive “second wave” of mortgage defaults is getting ready to hit the U.S. economy starting in 2010. In fact, this “second wave” is so frightening that even 60 Minutes is reporting on it.

    #11) Meanwhile, the Federal Reserve has announced that it made a record profit of $46.1 billion in 2009. Apparently during this economic crisis it is a very good time to be a bankster.
    __________________

  351. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 8:36 am
    SnB,

    You want examples:

    1- Afghanistan: we halped them against the USSR, and then left them alone to kill each other with all the weapons we gave them.
    2- 2nd Iraq War.
    3- Palestine & !srael: we don’t get really involved.
    4- Russia & Sheshnia: we haven’t done anything

    Do you want more examples??
    =======================================================
    OK, I don’t agree with all of the above…but at least spell out examples and explain what we’ve done based on your point of view. Not the, US is a greedy blah, blah, blah….US doesn’t care about global warming blah blah blah…US trying to take over the world…blah blah blah

    BTW, your #2 I can agree with.

  352. jhill Says:

    Vegas,

    You’re stating the obvious dogg!

    Peyton Manning is arguably one of the best QBs of all time.

    Russell is not.

    And the Oline comparison are probably dead on. Since we don’t have Peyton, and like the other 31 teams, won’t be getting him or anything close to him, upgrade the Oline.

  353. Raider O Says:

    SnB,

    I’m an American!

    To be able to fix a problem, you to identify it 1st.
    We have problems just like any other country. I choose not to ignore them, so we can fix these issues to become a better America for us and the rest of the world.
    I don’t point the problems of other countries because I don’t live there and it doesn’t impact me personaly. I live here, so I care about fixing the issues here.

    Not taking shots at America.

  354. jhill Says:

    Dude,

    Missed your take on Kiffin to SC ….

  355. Raider O Says:

    You HAVE to identify… *

  356. jhill Says:

    Ok Dude, lol …

    I’ll play!

    C is the least important postion on the Oline?

    Why do you say that?

  357. Raider O Says:

    SnB,

    It’s ok to disagree, but why do you disagree with #1?

  358. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Raider O

    I am all for fixing problems too. Just be specific about the problems that you see.

    I normally ignore political posts and I am not sure what set me off here. I think it was LMM saying some general critique that didn’t register with me or something.

    Any country of our size, scope and yes…responsibility is going to make mistakes from time to time.

    My position is not to say the US is perfect…cause its not…but that it does a helluva a lot of good and MOST of its decisions are made trying to do the right thing

  359. 4evaRaider Says:

    Bush sucks is what set you off LOL!

  360. jhill Says:

    Apparently during this economic crisis it is a very good time to be a bankster.

    ——————————————————-

    A bankster ????

    LMFAO!

  361. Dude Says:

    Jhill,

    Recruiting wise= A+
    Coaching staff(so far)=A

    I actually liked Kiffin when he was here. I thought he had the team playing hard and knew the strengths and weaknsesses(QB). Was he perfect? No. But he is proving to be correct in his assesment of Russell. I liked him at SC the first time and even though the way it all went down kind of feels a bit “dirty” I think he will prove to be a good coach. I would say I am a tad above optimistic about the move.

  362. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 8:47 am
    SnB,

    It’s ok to disagree, but why do you disagree with #1?
    ======================================================
    The Soviet Union was invading Afghanistan at the time. It was seen at the time as another front on the Cold War. The US decided to arm the resistance movement (which later became the people we are fighting now) there to repel the Soviet invading force.

    I don’t see anything wrong with the thought process there. Better that, than to actually fight the Soviets 1-1 and have a nuclear war.

    Now, the problem was/is, that when the Soviets pulled away from Afghanistan, the US didn’t attempt to provide political/economic support that could have prevented them from descending into what it became today.

    Amazingly, I don’t understand why the Islamic fighters at the time didn’t realize the support the US was giving to fight “godless” communism at the time.

    But it is what it is

  363. Raider O Says:

    Jhill,

    It wasn’t me, but you know: when they talk politics I get that itch. It’s the Arab in me. lol

  364. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    jhill Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 8:33 am
    Whoa!

    SnB talking US foreign policy?
    ======================================================
    That’s how bad it has become in Raiderland.

    The seasons are starting to blur together…the draft is a foregone conclusion…

    What the hell…why not join the fray……

  365. El Tato Says:

    Damn, Gaines Adams dead at 26. WOW

    That sucks, he is about my age

  366. Dude Says:

    Center is the least valued in the draft and in salary numbers. Explain that. Any shlub off the street can come in and play center.

  367. Plunketthead Says:

    If you could ask the President one question, what would yours be?

    All this trouble seemed to start with the electronic run on the banks of Sept. 18, 2008.
    If nothing sinister was at work, then why so much secrecy concerning the destination of this $550 billion in money withdrawn on Thursday, Sept. 18, and who was responsible for redirecting these funds out of the U.S. money markets.

  368. Raider O Says:

    SnB,

    I think they did, but at that point they didn’t care. They were being killed by the thousands. They needed weapons and the US gave it to them.

    We gave weapons to kids and farmers, and then left them to kill each other after we had no nterest in the USSR.

    You don’t see a problem with that?!? When will you see?!? After 9/11?!?!!!!
    We need to do better for ourselves!!!!

  369. Plunketthead Says:

    $550 billion was drained away from the American economy, the consequences of which we suffer to this day.

    The exact contours of this event were described by Rep. Paul Kanjorski (D-Pa.) on C-SPAN on Wednesday, Feb. 11, two days after the 200th anniversary of Abe Lincoln’s birth.

    An enraged caller had just erupted over the ill-advised $700 billion bailout a few months earlier and Rep. Kanjorski felt pressed to reveal what Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke had told Congress behind closed doors, which so shocked them into supporting this mind-bogglingly huge bailout.

    “On Thursday [Sept. 18, 2008] at about 11 o’clock in the morning,” Kanjorski began, “the Federal Reserve noticed the tremendous drawdown of money market accounts in the United States to the tune of $550 billion dollars being drawn out in a matter of an hour or two. The Treasury opened up its window to help. It pumped $105 billion in the system and quickly realized that they could not stem the tide.”

    At that point, officials realized, Kanjorski relates, “We were having an electronic run on the banks.”

    In response, Kanjorski continued, “They decided to close the operation, close down the money accounts and announce a guarantee of $250,000 per account so there wouldn’t be further panic out there and that’s what actually happened.”

    And, if nothing had been done, Kanjorski revealed, “their estimation was that by two o’clock that afternoon, five and 1/2 trillion dollars would have been drawn out of the money market system of the United States, would have collapsed the entire economy of the United States and within 24 hours the world economy would have collapsed (which would have meant) … the end of our economic system and our political system as we know it.”

  370. Dakota Says:

    Al,

    Why wait until after week four of next season? FIRE CABLE NOW YOU IDIOT!

  371. Plunketthead Says:

    I’m done railing this morning.
    I had to get that out before I start chores.

  372. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 8:47 am

    Raider O

    I am all for fixing problems too. Just be specific about the problems that you see.

    I normally ignore political posts and I am not sure what set me off here. I think it was LMM saying some general critique that didn’t register with me or something.

    Any country of our size, scope and yes…responsibility is going to make mistakes from time to time.

    My position is not to say the US is perfect…cause its not…but that it does a helluva a lot of good and MOST of its decisions are made trying to do the right thing
    ________________________________________________________

    you dont even remember what makes you tick? woaw good job…

    LOL an your facts is just as wrong as calling Obama an eskimo… SO the US is the reason why there is peace in the Balkans? WHAT? i’ve done 3 tours down there, saved several american asses and you claim YOU saved the day… what a load of BULL…

    then you claim how many money you spend on your military is the reason for world peace… NO, you spend so much money to keep peace IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY, political peace, social peace and to give you people some purpose of life…

    WE have for decades given more to FN and developmental countries than to our military…

    NOW THATS HOW YOU SAVE THE WORLD!! not by bombing or acting like a policeofficer but to act like a human being…

    I really didnt want to comment, but so many half truths and lies that i had to comment…

  373. Plunketthead Says:

    WHAT? i’ve done 3 tours down there, saved several american asses and you claim YOU saved the day… what a load of BULL…

    That explains a lot.

  374. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Yeah and 4eva is right…

    you were pissed that i called you man Bush out, for being too slow helping his own people (Katrina) and for applauding Obama for helping Haiti…

  375. Norco Bob Says:

    Nothings funnier then watching dorks like Plunk and others try and talk politics,..thanks for the morning laughs with my hot cocoa.

  376. vegas raider Says:

    jhill Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 8:42 am

    And the Oline comparison are probably dead on. Since we don’t have Peyton, and like the other 31 teams, won’t be getting him or anything close to him, upgrade the Oline.

    **********************************

    No doubt, no doubt what-so-ever.

    The best way for this team to start competing, since the easiest way is to get an elite QB and that probably isn’t happening, is to fix the O-line and the D. I never disagreed with that, but I would say Run D has to be number one priority.

    We should try to be like the Ravens, Titans, Panthers and Jets the last few years. Have a great regular season, than get pasted in the playoffs because you have no QB.

    Where we are at, I would gladly take it.

  377. Mistabr0wn Says:

    lol @ this drug & alcohol dependent dood drinkin hot cocoa!!!!

  378. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Mista…

    Yeah, I was thinking cocoa was slang for brakefluids or something…

  379. Raider O Says:

    ROFLMAO Mista!!!!!!!

  380. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    LMM,

    The U.S is not the sole reason…but played a significant role…

    “During 1996, the United States stationed about 16,500 troops in Bosnia and roughly 6,000 support personnel…..of a total of 54,000 troops”

    “From FY92 through FY2003, approximately $13.92 Billion has been appropriated for Bosnia” “$913 million requested for FY2004″

    “CRS Brief for Congress”
    http://smallwarsjournal.com/documents/crl2.pdf

  381. Raider O Says:

    Drinkng Cocao and watching poodles play. What a life!

  382. La Milicia Negra Says:

    and?

    oh and btw its LMN…

  383. Dakota Says:

    GOOOO J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!!!!

    GOOOO VIQUEENS!!!!!!

  384. Raider O Says:

    Bob,

    Replace the poodles with kids, and that’s perfect for me.

  385. Raider O Says:

    I want to have more kids. I live waking up watching my daughter play. I want a son.

  386. Norco Bob Says:

    Well there is E & J brandy in the cocoa, I didnt mention it because I assumed you all that already.

  387. Raider O Says:

    Live: love*

  388. Norco Bob Says:

    You guys really baggin on me because I have apricot poodles?…dang,..I see dudes on the river with pits, I guess they own them for ego reasons, project toughness or whatever.

  389. Dakota Says:

    People from nations that have been insignificant for the past three centuries like to nit-pick the US.

  390. r8eray Says:

    I have a Rot. name: KILLER!!!

  391. Norco Bob Says:

    By the way, one of my dogs has won awards in Placerville for best Mini Poodle,..three times,…might even see us if you google poodles/placerville.

  392. Norco Bob Says:

    I have nothing about yappin politics, I go to political blogs quite a bit,…theres about a million of them in case you really want to talk about that.

  393. Raider O Says:

    LMAO @ Mini poodles

  394. Dakota Says:

    Norco and his dog:

    http://www.rogerminick.com/SightSeerComplete/Bryce/Man_with_Poodle_at_Sunrise_Point_1981.jpg

  395. Norco Bob Says:

    Dakota that is the same size poodles I have, but mine are apricots….that ones gray, and I dont look like that dude.

  396. Norco Bob Says:

    Mini poodle isnt the smallest one,..they have toy, mini and standard,..I have the mini.

  397. Raider O Says:

    LMAO Dakota!!!!!!!!

  398. Dakota Says:

    see ya tuesday

  399. Raider O Says:

    Still LMAO Dakota!!!!!!!!

  400. Raider O Says:

    Later Dakota, and thx for the link. lol

  401. weabadteam Says:

    Here is something to reflect upon.. Since Gruden left can we honestly say that any players the Raiders drafted have worked hard and become better players..I have only 4 in mind Namdi, Schillens,Huff(finally), and maybe Fargus. Other than that slim pickins guys, thats the real issue here, our players when they put on that silver and black are not getting better… So truth is i have seen Raider mock drafts selecting Anthony Davis of Rutgers.. Resounding no from me, he has great coaching and in 2-3 yrs he is still the same player he was in high school. The Patriots bring folks in and make them better players.. It is not rocket science draft guys that have heart, are hungry, and are dying to get better. Dont give me one more prima donna with this posse that thinks he is the man.. Lets get our ship righted with some good scouting, great character interviews, and maybe coaches that can empower people..

  402. Norco Bob Says:

    Dont rule out Jim Harbaugh,…stranger things have happened, especially in Alameda,..my hope is we go 2-14 in 2010, with Cable,..then Gruden comes back for the 2011 year, but then there will be a lockout for sure,..oh well,..I wouldnt mind a lockout this year….a long one.

  403. Plunketthead Says:

    Its more then politics Bob but dork works

    note the the curious silence of wall street, obama, bush, the us congress, the treasury secretary, and the world media

    If nothing sinister was at work, then why so much secrecy concerning the destination of this $550 billion in money withdrawn on Thursday, Sept. 18, and who was responsible for redirecting these funds out of the U.S. money markets.

  404. Norco Bob Says:

    Plunk, like I said, I talk politics, in political blogs, not here.

  405. Norco Bob Says:

    Lets go Vikes!!!

  406. Plunketthead Says:

    Sorry bob
    I will stick to football and drugs and poodles from here on out.

  407. Norco Bob Says:

    Good idea.

  408. Norco Bob Says:

    You may be qualified to talk dogs, booze, drugs and Raiders,..but Iv read your posts, you havent a clue on anything political.

  409. Raider O Says:

    Eric frampton!
    Wasn’t he a Raider. Drafted in the 5th RD!

  410. Plunketthead Says:

    So pray tell, bob. What exactly is wrong with my political views?

  411. Norco Bob Says:

    Plunk, whats wrong is you try and talk politics in a sports blog,…and look stupid doing it. Try a political blog dude, theres a few out there. You might even see me there.

  412. Raider O Says:

    Vikings D Line looks great.

  413. Norco Bob Says:

    So does Dallas`s D line. Damn.

  414. Plunketthead Says:

    I must have pissed you off under one of your other names.

    Dont bother denying.

  415. Norco Bob Says:

    Iv never posted with another name, dont really care if you dont believe me,..nothing people in here say upset me by the way,..thats funny though.

  416. Norco Bob Says:

    Dallas looks great,..O and D,..long day for Vikes it looks like.

  417. Norco Bob Says:

    Romo might single handedly lose this game.

  418. Norco Bob Says:

    Wow Favre da man.

  419. Plunketthead Says:

    Bob we can agree on Brett.
    Did you see him duck under the rusher

  420. DKnight007 Says:

    # Raiders4eve Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    Personally, I think Cable is gone, who is he replaced with? I dont know but I dont want a college coach like Jim Harbaugh or Mike Leach. Get me a Jim Fassel or Kevin Gilbride. As far as assistants, I would love AL to get free agents assistant like Sherman Smith who could resurrect DMAC career and enhance M Bush game. Maybe keep Paul HAckett but definitely replace Sanjay Lal with Falcons Wide Receiver coach Terry Robiskie who coached the raiders in the 70s, an experienced coach is needed for louis murphy and dhb.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Harbaugh is not just your regular college coach guy.

    He played pro football for like 13 years and knows the pro game probably more than his older brother John in B-More. Plus Jim has more head coaching experience than his brother did.

    Trust me….John Harbaugh knows what the NFL is all about!

  421. DKnight007 Says:

    Mike Leach would get eaten alive in the NFL as a head coach. Fassel and Gilbride will do nothing for this franchise or team in the long term.

    The Raiders need to look to make a significant upgrade that will bring positive energy and enthusiasim to the franchise and team.

    I believe hiring Gruden, Harbaugh or Garrett would be the ones to turn the ship around due to the passion, expereince, energy and upside.

  422. Norco Bob Says:

    If somehow Davis landed Jim Harbaugh, in my opinion the bad times are over….but extreme longshot Harbaugh comes here. But, never know.

  423. Norco Bob Says:

    Garrett may come, if Bum`s son gets extended, wont wait forever…but I wouldnt want him.

  424. DKnight007 Says:

    Whoever is the play caller next year needs to start utilizing and perfecting SCREEN plays!

    Screens to DMC, Bush, DHB, JLH and Murphy are VITAL weapons. They are extensions of the running game and they keep defenses off balance.

  425. Thec07 Says:

    Martz as OCO…

  426. DKnight007 Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 11:12 am

    Garrett may come, if Bum`s son gets extended, wont wait forever…but I wouldnt want him.

    ^^^^^^^^
    I would rather have a coach with upside like Garrett ahead of burned out retreads like Fassel and Gilbride who have nothing to bring to the franchise and team long term.

  427. Norco Bob Says:

    Oh really?…and you think Al will let Garrett run the O the way he wants?….nope.

  428. DKnight007 Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 11:20 am

    Martz as OCO

    ^^^^^^^^
    Need a QB and O-Line if Martz is going to be OC.

    The running game will be non existent and his play calling will get the QB killed with the way the O-Line is now.

  429. Thec07 Says:

    GM = Mckenzie
    HC = Moss/Frazier
    OCO = Martz
    DCO = Marshall/????

    Flush the cable guy, he is not a HC, just ike BRL is not a NFL QB….

  430. Thec07 Says:

    His play calling would be a step up from braindead cable…

  431. DKnight007 Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 11:22 am

    Oh really?…and you think Al will let Garrett run the O the way he wants?….nope.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Probably not…..thats the other MAJOR need the franchise and team needs BADLY….a REAL GM/Personnel Man! LOL

  432. Thec07 Says:

    How many QB’s did we lose… You need to have trench warriors to win in the NFL anyway…. Last 3 years should have been Dline Oline….No brainer…

  433. DKnight007 Says:

    At least Garrett would bring balanced play calling and he isn’t afraid to let the running game set up the passing game.

  434. Thec07 Says:

    balance sort of like New orleans, and san diego…

  435. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Agree with you Thec…

    The only bit of hope I have is Harbaugh coming here…but like NB said, very unlikely….regardless, Cable has to go and will go.

    Davis is thinking “who will be the best coach to develop all the young busts I have drafted”

    Is that Cable? The guy benched JaDavis (rightfully so by the way), limited DMAC, and DHB is the worst rookie receiver in 2009…Huff? He still is only a spot starter and frequently plays behind Eugene.

    I say move Cable on. He needs a bunch of veterans and is kind of Gruden like in his total inability to develop the youth.

    I think Fassel or Gilbride would do a BETTER job than this Cable guy.

    As for JaDavis, if he is to have any chance, it will probably require a fresh set of eyes….not saying that JaDavis has much of a chance anyway

  436. Thec07 Says:

    NO vs INDY SB….

    dallas will be at home…

  437. DKnight007 Says:

    Another player the old dumb man Al should have drafted in Round 2 was Loadholt.

    He could have the starting RT from Day 1!

    Idiot old man…..he could have got a backup safety in Round 3 or 4!

  438. DKnight007 Says:

    The Vikes or Saints will win the Super Bowl!

    Not an AFC team this year IMO.

  439. Thec07 Says:

    The thing that bit me with cable was he admitted he was in over his head with the play calling….

    took him all year to figure it out???

  440. Thec07 Says:

    Saints D looked good… They pummuled the old man…

  441. raiderzmaverick Says:

    I agree. I’d be happy with Gruden, Harbaugh or Garrett. But I don’t think we’ll get any of those. So, in that case, I’ll suffice with Cable and getting someone put as an Offensive Coordinator (bring someone from outside with a fresh view)

  442. KoolKell Says:

    R.I.P. Gaines Adams

  443. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 11:31 am
    Another player the old dumb man Al should have drafted in Round 2 was Loadholt.

    He could have the starting RT from Day 1!

    Idiot old man…..he could have got a backup safety in Round 3 or 4!
    =======================================================
    That about says it all. Until the draft philosophy changes….the Raiders will remain on the hamster wheel

  444. Thec07 Says:

    I have been watcvhing loadholt all day, we slepy on that one, and brinkley the minny MLB that replaced henderson….

    Brinkley > morrison…

  445. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Harbaugh makes no sense for one reason….why the delay? If you wait longer Harbaugh would addone more reason definitely say “no” because he wouldn’t want to bone Stanford.

  446. DKnight007 Says:

    # RaiderDogg Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 10:02 pm

    MAJOR changes are in the works. Things will come to light soon…

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Yeah we’ll see. I’ll believe it when I see it.

    There better be MAJOR POSITIVE changes in the works for the sake of the franchise, team, and fans.

  447. Thec07 Says:

    Best change would be GM….

    cable with BRL = 5-11……

  448. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Look what happens with one missing link on the line. Flozell Adams goes out and suddenly Dallas getting their ass kicked.

  449. Thec07 Says:

    cable = worst yes man ever…

  450. Thec07 Says:

    farve has go to be on roids….

  451. Thec07 Says:

    refs slanting to the cowgirls.

  452. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    raiderzmaverick Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 11:38 am
    Harbaugh makes no sense for one reason….why the delay? If you wait longer Harbaugh would addone more reason definitely say “no” because he wouldn’t want to bone Stanford.
    ======================================================
    The delay is because Davis fiddles while the Nation burns…..he has no concept of timing and the need to move fast to get talent.

    Hopefully Davis gets a new coach….anyone..I have no confidence in Cable. None. And you can bet that Gradkowski will be GIVEN the job should Cable stay and will become another Cable Guy…just like Eugene, Fargas, Green etc….and you know how hard it is to move a Cable Guy.

    What is needed at this point is a fresh set of eyes on this thing…someone new…even a retread like Fassel. He’s been a head coach in the NFL and had success..plus he knows QBs and will do a better job than Cable of assessing the talent.

    Hell, maybe a guy like Losman flourishes with a Fassel or Gilbride……

  453. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    What a mess the Raiders are right now…

  454. DKnight007 Says:

    # RaiderDogg Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    Russell will compete for the starting spot next year. I am hearing that there are a few people out there that think they can help this kid turn it around and Al plans on meeting with every single one of them.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    Of course potential coaches will say they can revive Juggs….even if they don’t truly believe it. They want a bigger paycheck then what they already are getting! LOL…

    Nah…but seriously….if Juggs is serious about turning things around, he needs to take steps to prove he is serious. This off season he needs to hire a personal trainer first of all and lose 15-20 pounds and get in the best shape of his life.

    Then he needs to work with a QB coach and work on footwork, scanning the field, and fundamentals along with the personal trainer to prepare him for camp and show the coaches he is serious about turning it around.

    He also needs to accept a paycut.

  455. Thec07 Says:

    Yeah its a mess for sure…

  456. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Felix Jones is so much better than DMAC….none of the top picks pan out…except Zach Miller (who picked him anyway)

    So what athletic reach will Davis make this year?

  457. lefty12 Says:

    Cable never admitted he was over his head calling plays.what he said was he would be open to hiring someone to call plays.why do some of you always try and twist what was really said into what you want said?

  458. Ghost to the Post Says:

    If Fassel(should be spelled Fossil) is so great why isn’t he currently employed by anyone in the NFL?

  459. DKnight007 Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 11:34 am

    DKnight007 Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 11:31 am
    Another player the old dumb man Al should have drafted in Round 2 was Loadholt.

    He could have the starting RT from Day 1!

    Idiot old man…..he could have got a backup safety in Round 3 or 4!
    =======================================================
    That about says it all. Until the draft philosophy changes….the Raiders will remain on the hamster wheel

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Yep….thats why the need for a GM/Personnel guy who knows what he is doing on draft day needed…..BIG TIME!

    SNB,

    You remember last year, some of us in here identified Loadholt as a 2nd rounder and Brinkley as a 4th rounder? The Vikes know how to draft. The old man needs to hire on of the Vikes personnel guys or main scouting guys as the personnel man here.

    I remember after the draft, how pissed were last year. It proved that us fans in the Nation and old stupid man Al and his cronies beneath him are on waaaay different pages when it comes to drafting and personnel. It was sad…..

  460. lefty12 Says:

    if the Raiders do decide a change at HC is going to be made(which over 80% of the fans don’t think should happen) you can be sure it will be someone most have never heard of or who is a young asst. few know of.the Rat,Chuckie,Payton,even Lance-all virtual unknowns when the old man wanted them.

  461. Thec07 Says:

    Lefty12,

    This came from the mouth of cable…

    Cable conceded he may have spread himself too thin and sounded open to delegating some duties _ including play-calling _ if postseason analysis proves that would be the right path.

    So who’s twisting Bruh?????

  462. Thec07 Says:

    I would take Lesilie frazier or winston moss as HC…

  463. Thec07 Says:

    So we all agree than that cable was a “good play caller”….

  464. Thec07 Says:

    cable, play calling worst than the Bed and Breakfast O.

  465. Thec07 Says:

    cable, who is a line coach was calling our offensive plays….ROFLMAO…

  466. DKnight007 Says:

    # Thec07 Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    So we all agree than that cable was a “good play caller”….

    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    No…he was inconsistently below average. Then again Juggs play didn’t help him the first half of the season. Juggs should have been replaced in week 4.

    If Cable stays….an O-Coordinator/Play caller is needed to take over play calling duties…..without a doubt along with a new GM/Personnel guy needing to be hired.

  467. Thec07 Says:

    We get a GM first orde of business fire the cable guy…

    next cut BRL, and DHB…

  468. lefty12 Says:

    Thec-Cable also said he thought he did a good to great job calling plays.he then said he would be open to hiring someone to calling the plays-meaning if that is what the old man wants i have no choice but to go along if it means i keep my job.you are correct-he would be open to hiring someone.that doesn’t equate to him admitting he was ‘over his head’.

  469. DKnight007 Says:

    # Thec07 Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    cable, play calling worst than the Bed and Breakfast O.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    No it wasn’t…..the bed and breakfast offense was one of the worst offenses EVER IMO.

    Hence why the team earned the #1 pick after that debacle of a season and I think they only won 2 games that year with Shell and Walsh 2!

    Terrible….

  470. Raider O Says:

    The B&B offense was worse than Cable’s play calling. IMHO

  471. Thec07 Says:

    cable had more offensive weopons than the b&b…
    didnt know squat about how to use them….

  472. Thec07 Says:

    cable worse IMO….

  473. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Hopefully Davis gets a new coach….anyone..I have no confidence in Cable. None. And you can bet that Gradkowski will be GIVEN the job should Cable stay and will become another Cable Guy…just like Eugene, Fargas, Green etc….and you know how hard it is to move a Cable Guy.
    —————-
    I’d rather have a Cable guy playing his ass off than a Davis guy playing.

  474. raiderzmaverick Says:

    # lefty12 Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 11:56 am

    Cable never admitted he was over his head calling plays.what he said was he would be open to hiring someone to call plays.why do some of you always try and twist what was really said into what you want said?
    —————–
    Lefty, he definitely said he was in over his head and realizes he tried to take on too much.

  475. Thec07 Says:

    cowboys sould trade romo to the raiders… he is inept like cable….

  476. r8eray Says:

    I’m tired of seeing Rob Ryan’s face on the home page!!!
    Each time I refresh the page it’s still there!!!

  477. r8eray Says:

    C’mon Jerry….time to get back to work!!

  478. Thec07 Says:

    So lefty you like cables play calling?

  479. Raider O Says:

    Thec,

    Didn’t we have Moss in 06?

  480. DKnight007 Says:

    # Thec07 Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 12:20 pm

    cowboys sould trade romo to the raiders… he is inept like cable….

    ^^^^^^^^^
    I won 2 big money fantasy titles with Romo as my QB! LOL

  481. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Cable: “I learned be careful about trying to do too much. I’ll put that at the top of the list. Be careful about trying to do too much as the head coach. You gotta do a lot. You gotta have your hand on everything.

    But I think I’ve always been one to just roll ‘em up and go at it, whatever needs to be done, get in and get it done. I think that’s why you have the coaches you have and the staff you have and those kind of things. So I’d say that’d be at the top of my list.”

    Q: Did you overextend yourself at times?

    Cable: Yeah, I think you can sometimes do so much that you’re not good at the things you should be, you know?

    Q: Are you open to having someone else call the plays?

    Cable: Oh, yeah. At the end of the day I’ll do what’s best, for sure. For sure.

  482. Thec07 Says:

    O,

    Who was the QB in 06?

  483. raiderzmaverick Says:

    McClown no?

  484. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Tony Romo!

  485. DKnight007 Says:

    # r8eray Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 12:20 pm

    I’m tired of seeing Rob Ryan’s face on the home page!!!
    Each time I refresh the page it’s still there!!!

    ^^^^^^^^
    I know! I can’t stand seeing that…his ugly mug has been on there 2 days too long! LOL

  486. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Or if it was the year before it was Aaron Brooks and Andrew Walter.

  487. Thec07 Says:

    Lefty, you have your opinion, and intepretation.
    What happended on the field speaks for itself…

  488. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Andrew Walter!

  489. raiderzmaverick Says:

    06 was Art Shell? If yes, then it was Aaron Brooks. Yes, we had Moss then and he wanted Walter to play.

  490. Thec07 Says:

    The whole team is a mess starts at the top….

    GM Mckenzie
    HC Moss/ Frazier
    OC Martz
    DCO Marshall/???

    what has harbaugh done in the NFL????

  491. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Aaron Brooks!

  492. lefty12 Says:

    Thec,i don’t think it is as bad as most of you guys do.i also believe he was severely handicapped by the hippo we had posing as a QB.the play calling didn’t look so bad when Gradkowski and Frye were playing-QBs who could read Defenses and change plays when necessary.i’m not saying i like his play calling-i’m not sure.

  493. Raider O Says:

    Thec,

    Aaron Brooks who doesn’t play in the NFL and Andrew Walter.

    What’s your point? lol

  494. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Harbaugh played professional football as a QB. His brother is a head coach in Baltimore his father was a coach. I don’t know if he is too qualified to be the Raiders coach or not. But, I actually would take him right now.

  495. Thec07 Says:

    Lefty,

    Playcalling, and utilizing players is definetly not cables strong suite… He is a line coach nothing more

    that I am sure…

  496. Raider O Says:

    Hippo!! LMAO

  497. r8eray Says:

    Trade DMAC for Kerry Collins!

  498. Thec07 Says:

    Great pedigree for harbaugh, but he hasnt coached in the NFL….

  499. Thec07 Says:

    O, whats your point???

  500. Thec07 Says:

    just because his name is harbaugh he will be instant sucess? sort of like the name ryan right…

  501. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Neither had Kiffin. Jim Harbaugh in his playing days was known as Capt. Comeback. I can’t think of organization in more need of a comeback can you?

  502. Thec07 Says:

    You want to comeback get a GM first….

  503. DKnight007 Says:

    # Thec07 Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    The whole team is a mess starts at the top….

    GM Mckenzie
    HC Moss/ Frazier
    OC Martz
    DCO Marshall/???

    what has harbaugh done in the NFL????

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Harbaugh hasn’t coached in the NFL yet obviously….but he is a hot commodity for a reason. He has built winners everywhere he has coached and has done more with less talent at the places he has coached.

    Harbaugh did more as a player than anyone of those guys you listed.

    He has more experience as a head coach than the guy I compare him to Mike Singletary.

    Him and Singletary have very similar traits as coaches….it’s just Harbaugh has the QB/Offensive background compared to Singletary having the MLB/Defensive background.

    Plus Jims’s father was a coach and I’m sure he has learned some by watching is brother in B-More and being on the sidelines during his bros games. Jim Harbaugh knows what it takes to WIN in the NFL…..I have no doubt about that and his future is being a head coach in the NFL.

  504. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Raider O…..

    I found a picture for your dart board….lol

    http://allraiders.com/wallpaper/200904/cable.jpg

  505. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Al Davis is still alive. We have to live in reality.

  506. Thec07 Says:

    kiffin, aaron brooks, cable, trading gruden, DHB, BRL,
    shell, bed and breakfast all hires of Mr. Davis….

  507. Raider O Says:

    Thec,

    It was a joke. I get your point! Take it easy brother.
    I noticed from your posts that you have been getting angry lately, but who can blame you with all this losing.

  508. lefty12 Says:

    actually Thec,the way he uses players bothers me more than his play calling.but you have to wonder if that isn’t due to the old man and some of the asst. coaches.Don’t asst. coaches evaluate the players and give those evaluations and recommendations to the HC.

  509. M Lonetree Says:

    Big D feeling like a D minor or D minus.
    gotta luv it.

  510. Thec07 Says:

    The reality is we need a GM, not hard hard to face for me….

  511. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Yes and Bill Callahan took a Raider team to the superbowl in 2003. What’s your point?

  512. Thec07 Says:

    Lefty, you could have a point Bruh…. Mr. Davis could have a vendetta against MBUSH…

    DMAC = RBUSH of NO, with less swivel… Can we use him like that???

  513. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Just for today….

    J-E-T-S….JETS!—-JETS!—-JETS!….

  514. Thec07 Says:

    O, what up Bruh…Not angry man actually pretty relaxed about it all…

  515. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Heroin Barber!

  516. Raider O Says:

    909,

    I can’t throw darts, So Can I just throw rocks at him? lol

  517. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
    Lefty,

    Playcalling, and utilizing players is definetly not cables strong suite… He is a line coach nothing more

    that I am sure…

    ===============================

    How could it be? Not alot of experience and he wore ALOT of hats last year not to mention the off field BS.

    He stays for another year. Hopefully, we get somebody who can call plays and a QB who actually works

  518. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Well said 909…

  519. Thec07 Says:

    sacle of 1-10, harbaugh going to the raiders

    1o being likely, 1 never…..

    -10

  520. Raider O Says:

    J
    E
    T
    S

    JETS!!!
    JETS!!!
    JETS!!!

    Anyone but The DisChargers!

  521. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LOL Cowboys = tanking. I know several obnoxious Dallas fans who will be spending a few days with their cell turned off.

  522. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    HA! ‘ol Jerruh didn’t look to happy on the sideline..

  523. M Lonetree Says:

    909,

    that’s the idea! for today only.

  524. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    sacle?

  525. Plunketthead Says:

    Jerry is hotter then Texas asphalt.
    Tell Al to wake up and make a trade
    DMAC for Romo if they throw in Garrett

  526. Nnamdi21 Says:

    They don’t look it today and Flozel got hurt early, but I wonder how good Felix would look running behind the Raider line and how DMC would look running behind Dallas’s beefy O line.

  527. Thec07 Says:

    cowboys flame out…lol

  528. Thec07 Says:

    Bo,

    I meant Scale…

    sacle is some thing a fine female does to you…

  529. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Raider O….

    Whatever works for you…..lol

  530. M Lonetree Says:

    Wade Phillips lookin’ for work.

  531. Raider O Says:

    Thec,

    We need a HC for now, and Harbaugh, Gilbride, Moss, or Fassel are all better than Cable. (they can’t be any worse). I don’t think Al will hire a GM this year.

  532. Thec07 Says:

    Al will probably never hire a GM. 2010 5-11…
    BRL will be the QB, cable the HC….

  533. Raider O Says:

    Hire Wade Phillips!!

  534. Thec07 Says:

    cowboy losing in the playoffs is good for the NFL..

  535. jhill Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    Thec,i don’t think it is as bad as most of you guys do.i also believe he was severely handicapped by the hippo we had posing as a QB.the play calling didn’t look so bad when Gradkowski and Frye were playing-QBs who could read Defenses and change plays when necessary.i’m not saying i like his play calling-i’m not sure.

    ——————————————————

    Cable is as bad as Russell if not worse. Only thing stopping you from flat out saying it is your disdain for #2.

    Cables SUCKS!

    His play calling was NOT better. Still lost by double digits in more games than not.

  536. Thec07 Says:

    Take care guys gotta rev up my hate meter for the dischargers…. go jets…..

  537. M Lonetree Says:

    GM – Al Davis
    HC – Rob Ryan
    QB – JRuss
    RB – McF

    the line for season tickets begins inside of that cauldron of dismay.

  538. jhill Says:

    Thec,

    Wasuup dogg!

    Actually was really disappointed in Satele. I actually wanted that dude or Khalil coming out of college.

    Amazing that it took him so long to learn the plays (by his and the coaches admission). I thought the big somoan would be knocking some heads off, but it seems like he just didn’t like contact.

  539. Raider O Says:

    Later Thec.

  540. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Jhill: Satele just seems football stupid and in a ZBS center is the guy making the blocking reads and calls. He completely whiffs on MOST stunts. Guy f’in sucks and should be cut. I’d be surprised to see him starting next year.
    Raiders NEED a center. Haven’t had one since Robbins.

  541. DKnight007 Says:

    # Thec07 Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    Al will probably never hire a GM. 2010 5-11…
    BRL will be the QB, cable the HC….

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Yep….thats one of the main reasons (out the other 10 reasons) that I really disdain him right now.

    He doesn’t want to do what truly needs to be done to turn around the franchise and team.

    It’s a mix of things….his stubborness and ego and the his cronies underneath him like Herrera, Taylor and Kingdon who actually tell him that he is doing a good job to keep their jobs!

    What a joke!

  542. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Stu Schweigert!

  543. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Gotta check the raingutters real quick before the game. Forecast to rain small hooved animals all week here. Have a good one everybody….and GO JETS!

  544. lefty12 Says:

    we didn’t lose any games in double digits the hippo didn’t play at least half the game.don’t put words in my mouth,something you like to do.actually i could reverse what you say-the anchor brought this team down and the only thing stopping you from admitting it is your dislike of Cable.and your correct the play calling wasn’t better,it just seemed that way because we had competent people playing the most important position on an NFL team.

  545. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Barrett Robbins!

  546. DKnight007 Says:

    # Ghost to the Post Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 12:35 pm

    Jim Harbaugh in his playing days was known as Capt. Comeback. I can’t think of organization in more need of a comeback can you?

    ^^^^^^^^
    Sure was Captain Comeback….and he did more with less than many QB’s in the NFL.

    Jim Harbaugh wasn’t the most physically gifted QB in the league…..but he got things done with leadership, passion, heart, work ethic, and toughness!

    ALL traits this Raiders franchise and team needs right now!!

  547. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    One more, for my pal Norco Bob….

    Remember, if it’s not a Labrador Retriever….it’s just a dog…lol

  548. M Lonetree Says:

    Kickin’ the Cowgirls when they’re down. Luv it. Rub some salt in those wounds. Schadenfreude does have a niche in the human psyche.

  549. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Come on Bo. I’d give up on DHB and Jamarcus before Dmac.

  550. M Lonetree Says:

    BoSJack,

    no need to trade McF. Just give him away to our pal Dakota, he’ll find a use for him.

  551. raiderzmaverick Says:

    You know what. We’re sitting here arguing about getting a new coach, or getting a new coordinator….but I’d like to see us DO SOMETHING! We definitely need some change. I think with Russell not being forced into the starting line up with Droppius Hayward Bay we would’ve been a HELLOVA lot better. And with an Offensive Coordinator so Cable doesn’t think he has to do everything and someone can concentrate on Offensive personnel utilization and playcalling I’d be fine.

    Or get a really good head coach. Either way, we gotta hire an O-Coordinator or Head Coach FOR SURE.

  552. RaiderDogg Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eEF8zplJY8

  553. Chris in NY Says:

    Al’s no-blitz defensive philosophy is on full display in Minnesota today. Of course, for it to work you need to be able to get to the QB consistently with your front 4. Something we haven’t been able to do really since the days of Howie Long and Lyle Alzado.

    It’s great if you have the horses on the d-line to do it. 7 guys in coverage while the pocket crashes down around the QB. But the reality is that just about every team — and definitely the Raiders — need to blitz to get pressure.

    A great pure pass rusher is something I think we need to add in this draft. Not necessarily in Round 1. I’ve seen some mocks giving us the guy from Georgia Tech who I saw in their bowl game and was unimpressed. Maybe some small school guy in the later rounds who is a pure speed rushing DE would be nice though.

  554. DKnight007 Says:

    Saints or Vikes will beat the Colts or DisChargers in the Super Bowl.

    I just want to see the Colts in……F K THE CHARGERS!

    But an NFC team will win it this year….watch….

  555. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    raiderzmaverick Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
    Come on Bo. I’d give up on DHB and Jamarcus before Dmac.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    A bit early for DHB, but I agree on the walrus. However DMAC is a confirmed disgrace – can’t stay upright, healthy or in possession of the ball.
    Worst pick in my lifetime bar none.

  556. DKnight007 Says:

    # M Lonetree Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    GM – Al Davis
    HC – Rob Ryan
    QB – JRuss
    RB – McF

    the line for season tickets begins inside of that cauldron of dismay.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Terrible….what a nightmare!

  557. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
    BoSJack,

    no need to trade McF. Just give him away to our pal Dakota, he’ll find a use for him.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    LOL. Graveyard cashier at Hillrod Pawn.

  558. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Plunk, you still here?

  559. M Lonetree Says:

    DKnight,

    GM – RaiderDell
    HC – RaiderDogg
    QB – J. P. Losman
    RB – MBush

    better?

  560. RaiderDogg Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
    M Lonetree Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
    BoSJack,

    no need to trade McF. Just give him away to our pal Dakota, he’ll find a use for him.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    LOL. Graveyard cashier at Hillrod Pawn.
    —————————————
    The Black Hills Kum & Go is hiring. If there’s something McFadden knows about it’s the old Kum & Go routine…

  561. RaiderDogg Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
    DKnight,

    GM – RaiderDell
    HC – RaiderDogg
    QB – J. P. Losman
    RB – MBush

    better?”

    Sounds good, can I hire my own staff?

  562. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    watchin sidney ice and reggie bush gives me a new rant
    U GUYS CALL DHB A BUST ? BUT HE NEEDS A QB/ JAMARCUS RUSSELL SUKKS! TAVARIS JACKSON COULDNT HELP SIDNEY RICE. ALSO GUYS HAVE 2 MATURE. PLUS DMAC IS NOT BEING USED RIGHT. HE RUNS SO HARD AND FAST THERES NO REASON HE SHOULDNT BE EFFECTIVE

  563. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LOL Dogg.

    Trade DMAC to Planned Parenthood!

  564. RaiderDogg Says:

    lmao

  565. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    WONDER how long it takes jerry jones 2 fire the head coach ?

  566. r8eray Says:

    Trade JaRuss for a pack of Skittles!!

  567. M Lonetree Says:

    RaiderDogg,

    it’s all up to you and Dell.

    suggestion: Florida Pete seems pretty well tuned to D-linemen and linebackers.

  568. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    DMAC runs so hard and fast? For who? Arkansas?

    All he does as a pro is fumble, slip, or get hurt.

  569. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    i feel bad for cowboy fans tho. their the only fans more dillusional than us :)

  570. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    if i was demarcus ware id ask to be traded to oakland. cus ,, well i dunno .

  571. RaiderDogg Says:

    M

    Your offensive acumen would be an asset to this team. The Offensive Coordinator job is yours if you are interested. Just left a message wsith Florida Pete’s agent. I will also be approaching Dakota to see if he is interested in being our Running Backs coach.

  572. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    so this next game sukks. i really want norv and those f a g chargers to lose. but man that dang mark sanchez rubs me da wring way. EAT hot dog now b i t c h !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  573. M Lonetree Says:

    Caveat per McF; yesterday was the very first game in which Reggie Bush played like an NFL running back. The first game that he manned-up rather than trying to be blue-chip collegian running around lesser players.

  574. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for a hot dog b i t c h !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  575. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Dogg, available for TE coach, and I work cheap!

  576. M Lonetree Says:

    RaiderDogg,

    once Dakota gets his boy McF a job at the Kum & Go he should be free to delve into getting MBush better.

    OC? Me? 4 yards and a cloud of dust is my vision.

  577. RaiderDogg Says:

    860Todd Christensen Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
    Dogg, available for TE coach, and I work cheap!”

    We would be honored to have you aboard.

  578. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Hot doggs n chili is all I ask!

  579. DKnight007 Says:

    I’m not going to be even bother watching the lousy Jets/Choker Charger game…just gotta hope Jets pull it off.

    Revis can take care of Jackson…..so the Jets need to cover Gates and Sproles as WR and get consistent pressure on Rivers and no turnovers by Sanchez on offense and give T Jones 35 carries.

  580. raiderzmaverick Says:

    for your viewing pleasure

    http://www.holytaco.com/ladder-ocean-oh-boy

  581. raiderzmaverick Says:

    ooh….and another one

    http://www.holytaco.com/nice-face.

    Trade Dmac for her

  582. RaiderDogg Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
    RaiderDogg,

    once Dakota gets his boy McF a job at the Kum & Go he should be free to delve into getting MBush better.

    OC? Me? 4 yards and a cloud of dust is my vision.”

    Exactly why you are being targeted as the next OC. Just left Steve Wisnewski a message, hopefully he will be interested in coaching the O-Line. Also targeting Romo to be the LB Coach.

    Excellent point about Reggie Bush btw. There is hope for McFadden yet…

  583. DKnight007 Says:

    # M Lonetree Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    DKnight,

    GM – RaiderDell
    HC – RaiderDogg
    QB – J. P. Losman
    RB – MBush

    better?

    ^^^^^^^^^
    They would be able to draft better than the old looney man AL thats fir sure! LOL

  584. RaiderDogg Says:

    BSJ is being targeted as the Secondary Coach/Quality Control.

  585. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Please sign me up as Quality Control Coach – Kicking. If you need me, I’ll be on the golf course.

  586. RaiderDogg Says:

    I read your mind BSJ

  587. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Yes you did. If you want to try again, holy taco is a safe bet.

  588. RaiderDogg Says:

    Gametime gentleman. Enjoy, see y’all later

  589. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Dogg, enjoy the game!

  590. M Lonetree Says:

    RaiderDogg,

    I would require an inordinate amount of cash be spent on quality O-linemen. That’s about it.

    Go J-E-T-S

  591. 16yearsold16yearfan Says:

    has anybody heard that al davis is in the hospital right now and its not looking good

  592. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Gotta love the 3rd and long BLITZ! How un-Davis…

  593. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    16yearsold16yearfan Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
    has anybody heard that al davis is in the hospital right now and its not looking good

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    More likely, he is in LA interviewing to join Kiffin’s staff.

  594. Plunketthead Says:

    Todd

    I am here.
    I was out front doing cartwheels over the cowboy smackdown

  595. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Quality Control Coach/Audio Visual: Al Davis

  596. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Jets lost.

  597. raiderzmaverick Says:

    They’ll loose big and I hate it. I think Indy can beat them next week though.

  598. raiderzmaverick Says:

    598

  599. raiderzmaverick Says:

    599

  600. raiderzmaverick Says:

    600. Damned. Jerry time to do a new post….

  601. chappy23us Says:

    doing cartwheels over Al in hospital.

  602. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # 16yearsold16yearfan Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    has anybody heard that al davis is in the hospital right now and its not looking good

    …………………..

    Did a news search, absolutely nothing. See if your mom will take you to the movies today.

  603. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Al Davis has been on his death bed for 10 years. When I watched that press conference where he fired Kiffin, I saw a guy who needed to be in the hospital then. Al’s always gravely ill, rather he’s in the hospital or driving his cart around.

  604. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Awww, you got MR all hot and bothered.

  605. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Ooooh, you called me hot and bothered. Devastating.

  606. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Bo, do you want Al Davis to stay alive? I don’t wish death on him, but at the same time, I’m not exactly cheering for him to pull through, either. The longer he’s alive, the longer your team sucks. That’s a fact.

  607. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    The option doesn’t work in the NFL, Rex. You’re starting to look like your brother now.

  608. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    MR, you are so predictable…lol a 16 year old kid just played you.

  609. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Especially with a slow mother f’r like Sanchez.

  610. Plunketthead Says:

    LOL Bo

    Nothing funnier then the truth.

  611. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    That’s right, Bo, a 16 year old kid played me. Totally changed me as a person. I now have faith in Davis. Pffft.

  612. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    I don’t care enough about the Raiders/NFL to let life and death issues enter the picture. You, on the other hand live your life in an embarassing personal revolt against Al Davis.

    LOL, and a kid just sucked you in.

  613. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Lol, Bo, a dabba dabba hee haw, nothing funnier than that there truth, bo, jibber jabber jibber. Ha ha.

  614. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    I don’t care enough about the Raiders/NFL to let life and death issues enter the picture.

    ……………

    Sure. You’re just in here 24/7 because you like the web design.

  615. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Bo, do you not believe we’d be a better team if Al were to pass away? Just a hypothetical. I know you have too much of a life to care rather or not the Raiders are good (lol)

  616. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    The walrus woulda thrown a bullet on that route to Gates…

  617. Plunketthead Says:

    Sancho wont be eating any hot dogs today

  618. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Interesting fact: The 2 worst rushing teams in the league are in the playoffs this year. 1 is the Chargers and the others is the Colts.

  619. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Walrus? LOL. You’re funny. the Raiders, in the red zone? Too good… They’ve only been there a handful of times since Gannon was our QB.

  620. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Plunketthead Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    Sancho wont be eating any hot dogs today

    …………….

    He just did that against the Raiders, which is sort of a bye week. He doesn’t do that when playing real NFL teams.

  621. r8eray Says:

    Someone tell this 16 year old to either put up a link to confirm this hospital story or go back and play with you NINTENDO!!!!

  622. raiderzmaverick Says:

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    The walrus woulda thrown a bullet on that route to Gates…
    ——————————
    yeah…a bullet into the turf 3 yards in front of him

  623. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Like I said, Al’s always on his death bed. Did you see that press conference when he fired Kiffin? Tell me he didn’t look like someone who escaped from a hospital.

  624. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    This is where Rex calls the student body right

  625. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Damn, I thought that stupid yellow line that’s part of the chargers’ colors was the first down line.

  626. RaiderDogg Says:

    Hey Jets

    What it do?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkmyNzJQN0I

  627. Plunketthead Says:

    MR

    I will buy you a even dozen dodger dogs if you will come clean and admit you hate the Raiders

  628. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Why would I hate the Raiders? The Raiders make up a bout a hundred people, when you consider the roster, staff, management, etc. I hate the way the Raiders are managed, and will mock that management and that culture until it changes, though, that I’ll admit. But I don’t hate the Raiders.

  629. Dude Says:

    I have searched high and low for any info on Al Davis being on his death bed and UNFORTUNATELY I cant find one single word. Damn it!!

  630. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Just what is your definition of “the Raiders”, Plunkthead? Everyone on the payroll? The players? The management? Just Al? Define “the Raiders”.

  631. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    LOL, dudeness.

  632. Dude Says:

    Love the Raiders

    HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE Al Davis.

    Cant put it any simpler.

  633. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    That’s pretty much how I feel, dude.

  634. RaiderDogg Says:

    Chargers caught a break. That was clearly a catch and fumble…

  635. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Dude and MR sittin in a tree…

  636. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Dude, Bo just said we’re “sittin in a tree”. Never mind 16 year old Raider. We’ve got 8 year old Raider in the house!

  637. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Bo, just say we’re homos, or something. “sittin in a tree”? Are you serious? Are you jump roping right now, too? You need to learn how to cap, man.

  638. RaiderDogg Says:

    My love for the Raiders runs deep. I’m talking about balls deep!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjQhy-ZJTrw&feature=related

  639. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    The point was not that you might be gay MR. The point was that you and Dude are sucking each other’s rhetorical ass.

  640. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Well, my point, Bo, is that on a football blog full of grown men, the whole “sittin in a tree” song is kind of gay.

  641. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Jets are scrapping. Shuts that crowd up.

  642. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    LOL. he’s switching screen names. Bet you AIG or Seymour pops up any second…

  643. DKnight007 Says:

    Jason Garrett is available now as a head coaching candidate but the old looney man Al probably won’t try to get him….he has his own demented twisted list of underwhelming coaching candidates I’m sure.

    I think Garrett would be able to work well with Gradkowski here.

    Grads plays the game very similar to the way Romo plays. Maybe not have the strongest arm, but has good work ethic, good leadership skills, has good pocket awareness, good footwork, can scramble out trouble and is accurate on his throws.

  644. RaiderDogg Says:

    DK

    Jerry Jones will hire Garrett as HC before he lets him walk…

  645. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Garret has too much potential. He’d never work for Davis without a contract that guaranteed control and money. Retreads is the best we’re going to do, and as fans, all we can do is hope the retread will stand up to Al. We know Cable wont, so ship this woman beating bum out and start fresh. We’re starting from zero anyway. We haven’t improved one bit from last year. Just more chaos.

  646. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Wade Phillips is a more likely candidate for us. LOL.

  647. RaiderDogg Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
    Wade Phillips is a more likely candidate for us. LOL.”

    Ever notice how much Wade Phillips resembles Capt. Kangaroo? It’s uncanny…

  648. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Yeh. It’s one of those things where the more he tries not to look like Captain Kangaroo, the more he looks like him. He just has to embrace it.

  649. r8eray Says:

    Keep Cable, FIRE AL!!!!

  650. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Cable’s worthless. He belongs on a sled.

  651. RaiderDogg Says:

    Come to think of it, I have never seen the Captain and Wade in the same room at the same time.

  652. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    If a bunch of people were in a room with Wade telling him he looked like Captain Kangaroo, and he started getting mad? He would look even more like him. It’s one of those things.

  653. RaiderDogg Says:

    Personally I think that Mr. Green Jeans is a far superior coach. He just can’t handle the daily grind that is the NFL.

    OK that was bad…

  654. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    John Herrera kind of has that captain kangaroo thing going, too.

  655. RaiderDogg Says:

    Herrera reminds me more of Ed McMahon, in looks and the fact that he is a stupid sidekick.

  656. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Herrera’s not scary enough to be McMahon. Even Kawakami isn’t afraid of Herrera.

  657. DKnight007 Says:

    # RaiderDogg Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    DK

    Jerry Jones will hire Garrett as HC before he lets him walk…

    ^^^^^^^^^
    More than likely yes…..will Phillips be retained after an impressive December showing to win the division or will he be forced to quit or let go so Garrett will be allowed to take his place?

  658. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    LOL. I thought you were talking about Vince McMahon, from wrestling. I think I need to pay attention. Actually, yes…John Herrera pretty much is the NFL’s Ed McMahon. but Al a Johnny Carson? I dunno. Herrera actually looks a lot more like Jay Leno. Picture Jay Leno going through some weird mid life phase where he’s trying to act tough, like he can really fight. And you have John Herrera.

  659. RaiderDogg Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
    # RaiderDogg Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    DK

    Jerry Jones will hire Garrett as HC before he lets him walk…

    ^^^^^^^^^
    More than likely yes…..will Phillips be retained after an impressive December showing to win the division or will he be forced to quit or let go so Garrett will be allowed to take his place?”

    Considering that Phillip’s is a defensive guy and his team just gave up 30+ points in the playoffs, I’d say he’s done.

  660. RaiderDogg Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
    Herrera’s not scary enough to be McMahon. Even Kawakami isn’t afraid of Herrera.”

    Yet Kawakami is deathly afraid of Don Nelson. Go figure. Maybe Nelson is “connected”.

  661. DKnight007 Says:

    # RaiderDogg Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    DK

    Jerry Jones will hire Garrett as HC before he lets him walk…

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Dogg,

    So since you heard that BIG change is coming (allegedly)…..who will be on the usual depressing list of coaches to replace Cable?

    Trestman, Fassel, Moss, Gilbride?

    Those names are not the kind of big change that is needed.

    Those guys represent more the of same spin the wheels type of move that will holdover until the old man Al dies.

    Ugh….

  662. r8eray Says:

    Herrera reminds me of this!!!

    http://www.gagsandgoods.com/products_pictures/fake-dog-poo-thumb.gif

  663. r8eray Says:

    666, where you at??

  664. Florida Pete Says:

    my man Jaspar Brinkley would have looked good in silver and black…

  665. RaiderDogg Says:

    BIG changes equates to many new names, not just one.

  666. r8eray Says:

    666!

  667. Florida Pete Says:

    we’re gonna have to draft McClain to make up for not drafting Brinkley…

    i’t all in the planning… what with nearly all of our linebackers becoming free agents this year…

    why would we draft a MLB last year???

  668. RaiderDogg Says:

    Brandon Spikes will be there for the picking at #8

  669. r8eray Says:

    he might even be there in the second!!

  670. RaiderDogg Says:

    r8eray Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
    he might even be there in the second!!”

    If he is still there late in the 1st round, I can see the Ravens selecting him to groom him as Ray Lewis’ eventual replacement.

  671. Florida Pete Says:

    i’m thinking McClain is better than Spikes…

    actually, i think Micah Johnson is better than Spikes…

  672. M Lonetree Says:

    RaiderDogg,

    Up in Alaska back in the 70’s I was given the nickname Greenjeans. Still an honorific in my mind.

  673. RaiderDogg Says:

    Pete

    Make me believe

  674. r8eray Says:

    I dont think the Ravens will draft a LB in the 1st RD!!
    With Ed Reed retiring, the Ravens will be looking for a safety in the first round!

  675. RaiderDogg Says:

    M

    Honorific indeed. How amazing to have lived in Alaska. Further north I have lived is Trinidad, CA, which coincedentally is where I would like to live again one day…

  676. RaiderDogg Says:

    Ed Reed is just beat up and weary. He won’t retire, mark my words…

  677. RaiderDogg Says:

    RaiderDogg Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
    My love for the Raiders runs deep. I’m talking about balls deep!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjQhy-ZJTrw&feature=related

    Am I the only one that thinks this is pure comedy gold?

  678. RaiderDogg Says:

    “Further north I have lived is Trinidad, CA, which coincedentally is where I would like to live again one day…”

    Should say FURTHEST

  679. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Ed Reed!

  680. M Lonetree Says:

    Trade McF for Gholston. Value for value.

    Cry me a Rivers is about to start chanting J-E-T-S Jets! Jets! Jets! Hahahahahaha

  681. joemostler Says:

    how bout we sign kurt wurner next year! i think he would fit in great and lead us to a playoff spot. anyone agree?

  682. RaiderDogg Says:

    Trade Cornell Green for a carton of Lucky Strikes

  683. Raiders4eve Says:

    wow, are you guys seeing what Sanchez is doing, amazing a rookie QB leading his team, I hope he wins.

  684. Plunketthead Says:

    Sancho strikes!!
    Rex’s D is looking dam good, just like it did in Bmore.
    Poor Rob. I bet he thinks he is as good as his big brother if only given a chance

  685. Raiders4eve Says:

    wow the crowd is booing the Chokes………. lol

  686. M Lonetree Says:

    hey, if Rex Ryan is The Skipper, maybe we can get Gilligan (Rob Ryan) although I’d prefer Maryann.

  687. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    FUMBLE!

  688. Thec07 Says:

    Ginger, and Mary Ann

  689. Thec07 Says:

    dischargers about to flame out…..

  690. M Lonetree Says:

    Can it be?

  691. Tom cables pimp hand Says:

    You know… Chargers fans and donkey fans talk alot of smack about our boys, and often talk about how we’ve sucked for the past seven years but we have the most lombardi tophys in the afc west, and when we’re good… we’re good. Go raiders.

  692. Thec07 Says:

    this will be so great…

    chagers going into the crapper….hahahahahaha

  693. Thec07 Says:

    Good job jets……chargers going to flame out 1 and done bwahahahahahahahahahahahah

    Hey charged up whos cheetahs….

  694. Raider E Says:

    almost as good as a raider win lol

  695. Florida Pete Says:

    hey Lonetree…

    co O, 75th inf… ft richardson (few a few months, disbanded)

    then…

    charlie airborne… 1/60th… fort richardson…

  696. vegas raider Says:

    Well no suprise I picked another dud, but still happy to see Rivers and the Chargers blow it, yet again.

    Colts-Jets….I bet the Jets are at least 7 point underdogs. Might be worth looking at that. Every year it seems a team comes from no where. The Jets are that team this year.

  697. Florida Pete Says:

    mary ann and elly mae…

    now that’s raiderin’…

  698. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Splain pete…

  699. Ghost to the Post Says:

    J E T S jets jets,. JETS… Ya f the Dischargers……..

  700. Florida Pete Says:

    i say…

    vikings to the super bowl…

    and will sweep in four !!!

  701. vegas raider Says:

    LMAO!!!!

  702. RaidingTexas Says:

    Nuthin’ sweeter than knowing Philip Rivers will be watching the Super Bowl at home.

  703. Mike Davis 36 Says:

    There aren’t too many things in life more fun than watching the Chargers pull their annual choke job!

  704. vegas raider Says:

    How bad has the kicking been in the playoffs? The Dallas kicker today, Kaeding is a wreck, the Bengals kicker missed two inside 35 yards last week.

    It’s been terrible.

  705. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Didnt this clown from the Chargers beat out Seabass for the Pro Bowl or am I thinking of someone else?

    I dont care if the Jets go to the SB but I’m luvin this game!

  706. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Chargers are executing the Full Norval. They will successfully defend their formidable record of zero championships. Some surprise.

  707. RaiderDogg Says:

    Kaeding missed 3 kicks all season and now he misses 3 in one game? Some people can’t handle the pressure…

  708. vegas raider Says:

    None of his kicks were even that close. He was way off on a 36 and 40 yarder.

    Your telling me that’s a Pro Bowler?

  709. r8eray Says:

    LMFAO!!!! J-E-T-S….JETS JETS JETS!!!

  710. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Fassel, Gilbride = Turner

  711. Senior Beeecham Says:

    it just gets better and better!

    man, i pray for a visit from my little friend Charged Down after yet another classic Charger playoff humiliation.

    but more than likely he’ll scurry off to practice with his Blink-182 cover band then run home to cry under his Dan Fouts signature comforter.

  712. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    kaeding got paid off by al davis. inside info i got . norv turner worst coach in the world, i told ya

  713. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    charger fans must wanna kill them selves. ahahahhaha. they really believe in their team . ahahhaha. why is L.T. so crappy ? i hope sanchez eats a hot dog right now :)

  714. RaiderDogg Says:

    I feel a River’s pick coming in 3…2…1…

  715. Raiders4eve Says:

    Lol, SD Chokers can never win

  716. r8eray Says:

    Hot Dog Hot Dog Hot Digitty Dog!!

    :)

  717. Raiders4eve Says:

    how sad would the Chargers chokers fan feel losing from a rookie QB?

  718. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LOL if they score do they go for two? With this kicker they will need 2 TDs anyway…

  719. RaiderDogg Says:

    maybe not

  720. Ghost to the Post Says:

    boooo

  721. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    I wish we had a center that could sneak like that…

  722. Raiders4eve Says:

    Inside Kick with the worst kicker lol

  723. Plunketthead Says:

    The Jets run the prevent defense as well as we do.

  724. Raiders4eve Says:

    Everyone runs prevent defense when u leading by 10 pts.

  725. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    norv turner will have a new crater in his face after this one. i got it. cowboys hire him back for next season. mark it down .

  726. M Lonetree Says:

    Florida Pete,

    worked at U of Alaska Fairbanks and at night made pizzas in town. Guys from Eielson were frequent patrons.

  727. Mistabr0wn Says:

    GO FOR IT REXY!

  728. Tom cables pimp hand Says:

    I wanna know wheres that charged up loser at now? lol

  729. RaidingTexas Says:

    Actually, a nice topper to this season would be seeing FORMER Chargers QB Drew Brees hoist the Lombardi over his head in February. That would be SWEET.

    Where’s that Chargers guy who comes around here talking sh!t all the time?

  730. Mistabr0wn Says:

    The end.

  731. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    I WANNA SAY. 2 DA POOR CHARGER FANS I FEEL BAD FOR YA . :( NAAAH F U K K!!!! YOU B I T C H E S

  732. M Lonetree Says:

    4 yards and a cloud of dust boys. 4 yards and a cloud of dust. LT sure looks sour. Hahahahahahaha

  733. Raider O Says:

    J
    E
    T
    S

    Jets!!!
    Jets!!!
    Jets!!!

  734. Dark Forces Says:

    Should they change their name to San Diego Chokers?

  735. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    TEXT #6969 IN YOUR CELL PHONE 2 DONATE SUM BABY WIPES TO CHARGER FANS. CRAPPY FACE LOSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  736. Thec07 Says:

    charger choke… good job jets….

  737. Tom cables pimp hand Says:

    Raider O. Never chant that chant again.smh happy to see they knoced off those charger bastards but its still raiiiiiderrrrs!!! raiiiderrrs!!! lol

  738. spellcheck Says:

    ONE & DONE….bye bye Sandy Eggo

  739. M Lonetree Says:

    Nate Kaeding, Pro Bowler. Hahahahahaha

    Marvin Lewis, Coach of the Year. Blew two timeouts and both challenges on bogus thoughts in the first ten minutes of the playoffs.

    Guess they don’t make ‘em like they used to.

  740. NoMoreFargas Says:

    If their is anything as sweet as Tomlinson pouting on sidelines just awesome , how many SB do chargers have oh right
    ZERO.ZERO

  741. Thec07 Says:

    whoooooo hoooooooooo jets flame the dischargers……

  742. Plunketthead Says:

    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/jan/17/talk-chargers-playoffs/

    Lets go talk charger playoff football!!

  743. Thec07 Says:

    Best day of the year so far…….

  744. Tom cables pimp hand Says:

    Actually, a nice topper to this season would be seeing FORMER Chargers QB Drew Brees hoist the Lombardi over his head in February. That would be SWEET.
    “““““““““““““““““`
    Hell naw Brett ” the magic man” Farve all the way baby, all the way if anybody wins.

  745. Thec07 Says:

    Plunk I am going over there right now……

  746. M Lonetree Says:

    Norval lookin’ for work.

  747. Frank YoooooooLLL Says:

    the bolts are done………..

  748. Raider E Says:

    How about Norv and the onside kick? I never even thought about it …. then it happened lol:)

  749. Frank YoooooooLLL Says:

    HAHAHHAHHAHAAHHAHHHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

  750. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    yeah. a charger blog in my future

  751. Raider E Says:

    im just happy:)

  752. Norco Bob Says:

    Nice way to start our off season. :)

  753. Tom cables pimp hand Says:

    Phillip crying rivers.hahaha Im finna turn on some music and do the ladanian electric glide.lol Ohh what a night.(;

  754. bank-bank Says:

    It’s a great day in Raiderland.Thank you JETS!!!!!!

  755. Thec07 Says:

    Freakin great……. dischargers smoke themselves yet again…….

  756. Thec07 Says:

    Lite beer was on the bench sniveling as usual….

    I like how the rb for the jets does Lite beers TD move at the end….priceless…..

  757. Plunketthead Says:

    <——–waiting for email verification

  758. M Lonetree Says:

    Best day watchin’ playoffs since the Pewks were Tyreed.

  759. Thec07 Says:

    Brees > rivers… dumb move aj…..

  760. hwnrdr Says:

    Wait…cannot breathe…Chok(ing)….trying to breathe …Chok(ing)….there you go…
    Hahahahahahahaha!!!! Another year…another Norv watch! Onside kick….really…I would have kicked off!!! Oh well!!!

  761. Thec07 Says:

    This was a good weekend of football folks…..

    Toped off by a meltdown of the dischargers……nice

  762. 4evaRaider Says:

    hahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhaahahahahahahahahahaha

  763. bank-bank Says:

    The San Diego Chokers,their song remains the same:”Not Again”

  764. hwnrdr Says:

    Where’s that Chargers guy who comes around here talking sh!t all the time?

    I haven’t seen him post all year!!! He probably will though…

  765. texguy Says:

    Where is charged up now? Little beotch is just like Rivers. Tucking his tail between his legs.
    LMFAO at the chokers.

  766. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Why don’t you guys riot? This is the closest you’re going to get to a Raider super bowl victory again, so might as well.

  767. M Lonetree Says:

    Florida Pete,

    Elly Mae.

    And then Maryann the same day.

    Note to RaiderDogg: the above two names are worthy of a look for staff.

  768. hwnrdr Says:

    Wassuppp 4eva?!!!
    Enjoyed the game?

  769. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    They would have had a better chance if Turner would have kicked it off instead of the onside.

  770. Horse Tracks 1/17/10 – Saints, Colts romp their way to conference title games Says:

    [...] OT – Raiders assistants also await word – Jerry McDonald [...]

  771. 4evaRaider Says:

    Sure did Hwnrdr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  772. M Lonetree Says:

    MR,

    already been there and done that Super Bowl thing. What’s the prob? Dysfunction got your tongue? Y ????

  773. hwnrdr Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
    They would have had a better chance if Turner would have kicked it off instead of the onside.

    Yup, I agree…so now Norv is on watch again!

  774. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Norv Turner is a deuche bag. Ya…. I don’t miss him at all.

  775. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Did you hear that thud at 4:57pm local time….

    That was the Chokers SB window slamming shut…lol…

  776. hwnrdr Says:

    Oh well..I was arguing with a friend online about SD….now he won’t return my posts…oh well!!!

  777. hwnrdr Says:

    Dammm…that door slammed on the D line for not stopping Jones…hahaha!

  778. 4evaRaider Says:

    That was a TOUGH Jets Defense.Man they showed tremendous patience,imo.They shut down the AND those little screens 2 those tall WR’s of the CHOKERSSSSSSS

  779. Raider E Says:

    MR is a douchebag

  780. Tom cables pimp hand Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
    Why don’t you guys riot? This is the closest you’re going to get to a Raider super bowl victory again, so might as well.

    ————————

    You are a straight kill joy MR. You’re a charger fan aren’t you??? But its a shame because you spend ya whole life on a raiders blog… and don’t tell me you’re a raider fan because you hate on every thing raider. You hate al davis, talk trash about the team when they win, bash all raider players, hate fellow “football fans” (because you’re not a raider fan) when they cheer when a rival team loses.smh Do us real raider fans a favor and find another blog please.lol You never say anything thats valid besides al needs to step down and it doesn’t take a raider fan to say that.(;

  781. 4evaRaider Says:

    * the run

  782. hwnrdr Says:

    That int from Reevis against Gates or Jackson…can’t remember…was classic!!!

  783. 4evaRaider Says:

    2 Rookie coaches in the AFC….who will be the Rookie coach in the S/B?

  784. M Lonetree Says:

    Norval screwed up with the onside. Sanchize grounded the ball for no reason with a minute to go in the half. Receiver kicks red flag for no reason. SD D-end headbutts for no reason. Gates drops ball for no reason. Ain’t jes da raiduhs exhibiting boneheadedness in a game.

  785. hwnrdr Says:

    Yeah but the difference is this game of boneheaded plays by SD will be forgotten, but not the Raiders plays…

  786. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # M Lonetree Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    MR,

    already been there and done that Super Bowl thing. What’s the prob? Dysfunction got your tongue? Y ????

    …………………

    LOL. You weren’t even born the last time the Raiders won a Super Bowl.

  787. Tom cables pimp hand Says:

    The pimp hand is itchin… Its wants to pop Madden Hater a good one… hanson style.lol(;

  788. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Tom Cable’s pimp hand, try that again without sounding so retarded, and I might respond.

  789. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Oooooh I’m so scared!

  790. bank-bank Says:

    The Great L.Tomlinson 12 carries for 24 yeards.Way to go Choker!!!! Gee,I Wonder if he could stop crying and step up to the podium.I want to see his face when he’s being ask all of those questions by those hungry reporters or is he going to run and hide.

  791. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I’m not a killjoy, Cable. You just cling to the most disposable things for joy, like an NFL team that’s a rival of your team losing a playoff game.

  792. hwnrdr Says:

    He’ll probabaly hide for a bit…while he contemplates his future. I don’t think he’ll be back next year!!!

  793. M Lonetree Says:

    LMAO. First the Romos and then the (oh did you see the look on LT’s face) Rivers.

    personally, for the first time in my life there is not a single team left of the four that I despise.

    Aints. Fine by me.
    Favres. Go for it old man!
    Peytons. Class act.
    Ryan’s bunch. Pound it out.

    preference. Horses and Brees. Who dat in the end.

  794. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    MISSED FIELD-GOAL’S WERE HUGE..

  795. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    SD needs to drop LT already and….(this is going to be really cheezy) roll with the Sprole! Last year it was determined that Sproles was their premiere back.

  796. Tom cables pimp hand Says:

    Umm… Madden Hater you just responded.smh Besides I really don’t care if you respond… just want you to get the message. I really don’t like you, and its funny because i’ve never seen you a day in my life nor have I held a true conversation with you but I can’t stand you… You’re just so negative its irritating. You’re always trying to rain on someones parade for no reason.smh

  797. M Lonetree Says:

    MR,

    I was a Cotton Davidson and Art Powell fan as a boy. You?

  798. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Cable’s pleasure hand,

    I didn’t respond to any of your points. I just pointed out how retarded you sounded. What I meant was that I will respond to the actual subject and points within your comment when you learn to stop being a retard. OK?

  799. hwnrdr Says:

    Yup…Nate Kaeding missed all 3 FG’s? Wow…he should decline the Pro Bowl for that one!
    And yes…I have no problem with anyone in the final 4 for the first time in awhile!
    And, LT needs to be released…

  800. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Lonetree, you’re a dumbass liar. Nobody was a Raider fan back when Cotton Davidson was playing. AFL was practically on existent. Just gave yourself up, moron. Should have played it safe and said you grew up on Stabler. Only AFL enthusiasts, people involved with the league, etc, really followed the AFL in it’s early years. Learn how to lie, idiot.

  801. Plunketthead Says:

    I thought we were bad here but we cant touch pissed off charger fans. They are defacing wiki

    Nate Kaeding and his wife, Samantha, have two sons, Choke (born on May 7th, 2008)[3] and Gag (born on August 17th, 2009)[4].

    ————————————–
    Everyone deface Nate Kaeding and Norv Turner’s wikipedia pages.

    —————————-

    Fans are taking to Kaeding’s Wiki Page. LOL

    “The Chokerville, Iowa native played college football at the University of Iowa, where he won the Lou Groza Award in 2002 and is the all time leading scorer. Fans have given him the nicknames of “Big Shank Nate” and “Mr. Choke Artist”, because he was the worst playoff kicker in the history of the NFL. He had lived up to the nickname even in high school “

  802. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    MR, I’ve been a fan since 1964, you weren’t even a shine in your mom’s eye then…. Back down…

  803. Tom cables pimp hand Says:

    Have you ever heard of bragging rights MR??? If the chargers win that gives their fans bragging rights and ammo for their fans to talk trash against raider fans.The chargers losing gives raider fans bragging rights to talk about charger fans. We’re(raider fans) not gaining a championship or anything but we gain something which is bragging rights to use against losers like charged up when they come talking that non-sense against the raiders.

    But like my grandmother use to tell me if you don’t have anything good to say son… don’t say anything at all, and if you speak nothing but hate you make people hate you… true story(;

  804. lefty12 Says:

    800-not true!!!!!!

  805. 4evaRaider Says:

    well Viqueens and Aints have never won a S/B

  806. Raider E Says:

    Take it from MR, he knows how to lie lol :)

  807. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Bragging rights?

    You watched today’s game for bragging rights, Cable’s pleasure hand?

    Bragging Rights??!?!?!?!!?!?

    WTF can you, as a Raider fan, brag about no matter how today’s outcome is?

    What can you say as a Raider fan about today’s game where almost anyone wouldn’t respond by saying, “uh, who did the Raiders beat today? As a matter of fact, when is the last time the Raiders even played in the middle of January?”.

    Bragging rights?

    (in my best Jim Mora…)

    BRAGGING RIGHTS?!?!

  808. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Bolts got it now, Vegas bet it!

  809. Tom cables pimp hand Says:

    Like I said I don’t care if you respond, I just want you to get the message. and stop being a retard??? How pre-school. smh

  810. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You guys saying you were fans when Cotton played need to cut the s’t. If you guys really wanted to pretend you were old school fans, you should have just played it safe with the Stabler era. The few hundred people who were die hard Raider fans when Cotton Davidson played are already dead. Stop being stupid. You guys are LA Raider fans. Came on board when the Raider culture became more about acting hard and dressing in goofy costumes than winning. I can tell.

  811. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    11/29/55 DOB, n u?

  812. hwnrdr Says:

    Ejoy the reat of the weekend…whatever is left!

  813. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    SOMEONE PUT NORVELL ON SUICIDE-WATCH, THAT GUY IS ABOUT TO HAVE A BREAK=DOWN…

  814. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    OK, Cable, I did get the message about me killing your joy. Your problem is that you cling to such fragile things for joy. Your life is so miserable that the only joy you can find is an NFL team that’s a rival of your favorite team losing a playoff game. You kill your own joy by clinging to such disposable things for joy. That’s why it’s so easy for me to kill it.

  815. M Lonetree Says:

    MR,

    being a sorry excuse for an incarnation as you portray yourself to be does it any way acknowledge that some of us were out there rooting for Clem Daniels and Tom Flores against the likes of Jack Kemp and Cookie Gilchrist or Babe Parelli and Jim Nance. Sitting there in the rain on the bleacher seats watching ‘em play in the mud of Fank Youell.

    I do believe that you should remain in the “speak only when spoken to” category with regards to football in the 1960’s.

    And then there was Ryan and Jim Brown over in Kezar against the Miners. Helluva running back. Ever seen him play in person?
    When you don’t have a clue leave it alone.

  816. hwnrdr Says:

    Haha! Because he cannot win the big game…and he got snubbed for COY…enjoy all!!!

  817. Tom cables pimp hand Says:

    Did I stutter??? Yes bragging rights. Raiders didn’t earn them, chargers lost them… and I watched todays football hgame because im a football fan. And yes I can brag even being a raider fan because at the end of the day the chargers went home just like the raiders without a lombardi trophy in their cabinet and I love it.(; And when the raiders do go home there’s three shiny big ones in their cabinet while the charges still have none.(;Bang!

  818. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Todd, got a birth certificate to prove that? Oh, I’ll play this game, too. My dob is…let’s see? hmm, I’ll go with 2/22/46. There. If we can just make claims about our personal lives without any proof, I’ll play.

  819. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Cable’s pleasure hand, the only bragging rights that any Raider fan clinging to the joy of an SD loss today has is that he’s not dead.

  820. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Ooooh, Lonetree went and googled some names of AFL players. What a dork!

  821. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Most fans that go back to the Raiders’ old AFL days have given up, long ago. Only the former players that Al still keeps on the payroll haven’t. You die hard loyalists are LA guys.

  822. gilbert Says:

    Lonetree,I remember Tom Flores at QB as well as Cotton Davidson ,I recall 49er fans saying the AFL was junk and would never last,how can you be a fan of the Raiders,the League (AFL)inferior,etc.I remember listening on the Radio and enjoying high scoring games,became hooked and loved the Jets winning against the Colts w/ Joes guarantee.Long time ago!

  823. Tom cables pimp hand Says:

    No Im still happy the chargers lost, I just earned 50 bucks because I knew the chargers were going to lose.So you aint kill my joy.lol Im just saying you’re a kill joy because whenever someone celebrates any type of victory in here you have something negative to say. Trust me if anybody’s miserable its you.

  824. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Oh my god, do you guys think you’re fooling anyone? Just quit it. Then again, “gilbert” is probably just another screen name lonetree is posting under. My god you guys are retards.

  825. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    MR, look over past posts, it’s no lie, yea I’m old, but 54 isnt real old, lol, but it’s real, get over it.

  826. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You didn’t have money on this game, Cable’s jerk off hand. You would have said that at first. You sit there and try to explain your right to brag for the past half hour, then suddenly you turn and say that you’re just happy because you won a bet. STFU. You guys are the worst liars on the face of the earth. You can’t even lie to yourselves.

  827. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Todd, you might be 90, but you were not a Raider fan when Cotton Davison was playing.

  828. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    You are right MR, but AD is real old, I’m not!:)

  829. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You kids are a piece of work.

  830. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    I’m an Otto guy at heart……..

  831. gilbert Says:

    mr,9-25-1951 dob,Lonetree,thanks for bringing up Clem Daniels name,dont forget about the FB, Dixon ! That was a heck of a backfield.

  832. Tom cables pimp hand Says:

    haha why so mad MR??? Cus Im tellin the truth??? And cables jerk off hand is better than your retard insult.(; I like it. Nice to see you’re taking my advice and staying away from the corny pre-school insults. But I have no reason to lie. Who the hell are you???lol I just didn’t mention it because it was irrelavent. I was speaking in terms of bragging rights because of what it may have meant to others on here. Cuz I could care less about what you think I just don’t like how you always try and dis other true fans when its un-call for.

  833. ottocrat Says:

    THE SAN DIEGO CHOKERS OF LOS ANGELES. No Probowl for Seabass, but that dackbag loser from SD is going?

  834. Raiders4eve Says:

    I personally think Revis is better than Nnamdi in coverage, his skill level is very unique, but as a Raider, I wish AL payed Charles Woodson and played Nnamdi opposite Woodson, two shut down corners and good pass rushing, our defense would be good. You guys saw how Revis with Sheppard were shutting down Chokers Wrs. Thats what we need but of course we need to stop the run and replace Kelly, Warren and Morrison. I hope we can trade with Chicago and get Tommie Harris and Urlacher for a two second rounders. All we need to do is draft another DT and then focus on OL, CB and maybe a WRs. Dez Bryant sounds like a good pick as 8th overall pick.

  835. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Who here is responsible for Cable’s pleasure hand? Any of you roommates with him? Have his doctor up his ritalin dosage, for everyone’s sake.

  836. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    MR, I predate Vince in 67 and 68, listened to those SB games in a frozen corn field, hovering from the wind, with a 9 transistor radio, do remember those?

  837. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Raiders4eve, only Al Davis would split up C.Woodson/Asomugha. But of course his loyalists will talk about how Woodson “wanted to leave”, blah blah.

  838. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    No, TC. I guess I’m not a real fan because I wasn’t out at Frank Youell field in the ’60s. You got me. (sigh)

  839. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You guys might have just persuaded me to throw in that old history of the Raiders DVD. HAven’t watched it on my new t.v. yet. Is it enhanced for 16×9?

  840. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    I’m on you’re side MR, just older, sigh……..lol

  841. M Lonetree Says:

    MR,

    I don’t google anything. Yourself? Do you have any clue who these people were?

    When there was a fundraiser for Assassin I was talking with Howie Williams in the parking lot. I asked him how it was to face down the likes of Gilchrist and Nance. (Think Christian “The Nigerian Nightmare” Okoye.) He was glad to know what he had faced in his career as a DB.

    was there the first game in the Oak Coli. Chiefs smashed da raiduhs.

    went to every game (for three bucks a seat in the North Endzone near to Del Courtney’s Orchestra) the first year they went to the Super Bowl.

    Heidi Game. Scalper tickets in the SW endzone right where Charlie Smith caught that Lamonica pass after NBC wen to te movie. And then it was Preston Ridlehuber on the ensuing kickoff. (My father called him “tough name”)

    A monster game from Hewritt Dixon in the AFL champ game set up that first SB appearance, but what I remember to this day is a helmet to helmet that Bill Laskey put on a Houston Player during a kickoff. Both playes were laid out but the sound was audible 35 rows up.

    Sea of Hands. yep. I was there. I remember when #32 (what was his name? Bennie something. Malone?) scored for the ‘fins with just under two minutes to go my father whispered to me, “they left too much time.”

    ya know, the most rockin’ I ever heard the place was when Ol’ George kicked that 52 yarder against the Browns.

    On and on it goes.

    Disrespecting people because of ignorance is a human plight, I understand that, but why flaunt your ignorance in doing so?

  842. Tom cables pimp hand Says:

    Only person who has a problem with me is you MR… But who do you get along with??? You’re an idiot. Oh im a raiders fan but enjoy watchin the chargers win games, Ima raiders fan but sure wwould love to see the chargers win a superbowl??? wtf Any raider fan gets pleasure out of seeing another team in the west lose. But I am now going into ignore mode because i’ve said my piece, and I don’t have to show the nation you’re an weenie.lol

  843. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Cable’s clammy pleasure hand, take a deep breath and let it go, man. You’re too easy.

  844. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Cable’s sticky hand,

    Go celebrate the SD loss. Go to international and start chucking molotav cocktails through windows. Jets! Jets!!! Wooooooooohoooo!!!!!!

  845. Shawnraiders81 Says:

    ANOTHER CHARGES CHOKE SHOW. STILL NO TRADITION FOR THE DOLTS, WE MAY SUCK NOW BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE WON A FEW SUPERBOWLS……..

  846. Shawnraiders81 Says:

    FROM A RAIDERS FAN………
    J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!

  847. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    M Lonetree, was there when Blackmon got tagged in NE, thought it was total, thank god it wasnt….

  848. M Lonetree Says:

    860Todd,

    there is nothing to hope for from any converse with the MR. He hates. He attempts to be viable. He fails. He is only here because he has nothing in life except a hatred for Al Davis.
    Maintaining that much hatred for another individual is either a familial thing, a sexual thing or a religious thing. Don’t bother about the MR. He has issues.

  849. Frank YoooooooLLL Says:

    I thought this was a discussion blog, not for some fruitcups argue like a bunch of whinner fans……….

  850. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Lonetree, Al Davis is the worst person in pro sports, hands down. And the Raiders will never win more than 5 games again until he’s dead.

  851. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Considering how bad the Jets beat the Raiders this year, I just don’t see where Raider fans get any bragging rights from this. Charger fans have a bottomless cup of comebacks against Raider fans talking smack today. It’s been too many years since the Raiders have had anything to brag about.

  852. M Lonetree Says:

    Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away

    Suddenly, LT’s not half the runner he used to be,

    oh I believed in Kaeding yesterday

    why they had to fail, I don’t know, I couldn’t say,

    oh I believed in Philip yesterday

    “Discharge Lament” via P. McCartney

  853. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    This team is in shambles, dont blame Cable, we have a very good youth movement, we need O and D lines, a menacing DB, and we are competing, lets see what AL does in the draft. Can we all agree on that? WE are a Raiders family!

  854. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Lonetree, you finally found your calling. Not exactly SNL material, but better than sitting in here and trying to give people guilt trips for not pretending SD’s loss today equals a Super Bowl victory for us.

  855. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    MR, but it was sweet, lol!

  856. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Todd, you have to blame CAble for not taking a stand. Head coaches have a lot of vested power that Al can’t take away. Sure, Cable can’t draft anyone. But he can just work the s’t out of the players and get them into shape. He can take control of the locker room, and Al can’t fire him for cause because of it. You have to prove that cause stuff in arbitration. You can’t fire a coach for cause just for coaching. Cable has not stepped up. He’s doing everything Al tells him to do, and he lobbied for Grad to start over Russell way too late. Cable is worthless. Another DAvis puppet. We just have to try again with another retread or nobody, see if they have the sack to stand up to Al. And don’t give me this continuity argument. Continuity of what? We went from 5-11 to 5-11. We’ve continued sucking, and that’s it.

  857. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    OUT for the night, in at 5 am, et, night all

  858. Shawnraiders81 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider sounds an awful lot like…..

    Chargedup to ChargedDown.

  859. Raider O Says:

    TCPH,

    “The enemy of my enemy is My friend”. The Jets were my friends for 3 hours. lol

  860. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Shawnraiders81 sound like he’s desperate. Oh, you also sound like one of these morons who just switched to another screen name, too.

  861. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    MR, Cable will do, keep Al’s hand out of it, and I do love Al, and let the coaches do their thing, we go good next year, with JR, I need to see our schedule to guess where we will be.

  862. M Lonetree Says:

    MR

    pretention is your calling.

    I was simply Schadenfreude-ing.

  863. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Night all!

  864. M Lonetree Says:

    The worst persons in professional sports are Walt Coleman’s controllers.

  865. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    These are a few of my favorite things:

    LT pouting like a 5 year old in time out.

    Phillip showing us his “very, very angry face”.

    Merriman (post steroids) no where to be found.

    Norval being, well, Norval.

    The San Diego Chicken suffering a massive heart attack.

    Charger fans getting punched in the gut yet again.

  866. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Do the Raiders franchise Jano?

    Fotta believe the cowboys, chargers, colts and possibly chargers wpuld be in the bidding if he goes free agent in an uncapped year

  867. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Rex Ryan is a real coach….smashmouth football and play to the teams strengths

    Tom Cable? ignore reality, don’t practice running gm in camp and try to make JaDavis, DHB and Murphy into the Greatest Show on Turf

    Fire Cable!

  868. Raiders4eve Says:

    SnB

    Why would the Raiders franchise a kicker when they have Syemour as a free agent along with howard and Morrison?

  869. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    We were screwed by the refs. Unbelievable!!!! Seriously, the league has it in for the Chargers. There is no doubt that the Chargers were the better team today. If wasn’t for terrible calls by the refs, we would be on our way to the Super Bowl. Jes*s Frigging Christ!!!!

  870. Zymurge Says:

    While we as Raiders fan perhaps cannot use the Chargers loss for rubbing in their faces (not that I expect to see any of the Charger “supporters” from this blog here for awhile now) at least we, as football fans — and more importantly knowledgeable fans of the Chargers weaknesses and the Jets being vastly underrated — we’re able to correctly pick the Jets on the money line at +340 this afternoon. Thank you Chargers for choking and paying for my entire weekend trip to Reno this weekend on that bet :-)

  871. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
    We were screwed by the refs. Unbelievable!!!! Seriously, the league has it in for the Chargers. There is no doubt that the Chargers were the better team today. If wasn’t for terrible calls by the refs, we would be on our way to the Super Bowl. Jes*s Frigging Christ!!!!
    =====================================================
    You all didn’t come to play….another year goes by in your limited window…still no Super Bowls…..you lost to a 5th seed team at home…you guys just aren’t a Super Bowl caliber franchise.

    And as you know, when that window closes, you just don’t know when its going to open again….

    We know that better than anyone…..

  872. Raider75 Says:

    Just finished the game. All I can say is wow. Chargers wasted another opportunity.

    Wonder if they were looking past the Jets?

  873. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Raiders4eve Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
    SnB

    Why would the Raiders franchise a kicker when they have Syemour as a free agent along with howard and Morrison?
    =======================================================
    True…just like last year when it came down to Asomugha and Lechler…hopefully Al pulls another rabbit out of the hat….LOL

    Hopefully Janikowski doesn’t want to test the waters and will sign a contract.

    Right now, he is the best offensive player on the team.

    Seymour…I guess we have to re-sign him…the run defense was still garbage with him in there

  874. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    We’ll be back next year. Don’t get your heads down Charger Nation! We have to persevere just like those poor people in Haiti. Rivers won’t let that happen. Next year is our time soon as we get rid of Norv. Maybe we can get Kiffin.

  875. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Charged up, be careful. There’s some Raider fans in here with bragging rights. Bragging rights.

  876. Shawnraiders81 Says:

    Did you guys see the LT celebration by the Jets RB? It was awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Raiders = 3 SB wins.
    Chargers still = 0

  877. JT Says:

    Just posted on Sign on San Diego

    Chargers were flat IMO
    I thought they would really do more damage on Offense… but they became one dimensional out of the shotgun…
    they looked tight, flat, nervous…

    Jets are oportunistic, but will loose by 21 at Colts…

  878. Shawnraiders81 Says:

    And the Jets beat the Dolts & the Refs.

    Everyone in here knows it WAS a fumble……..not an incomplete pass.

  879. Raiders4eve Says:

    SnB

    Seymour is DE in 3-4 and should be DT in 4-3, stupid AL makes him DE how in the world would he stop the run as a RDE? if you noticed they barely ran his side and they pounded the middle and Ellis side. We have two useless DTs in Warren and Kelly, especially Kelly not worth a roster spot, Warren should only be a backup in passing situations. Here is my plan if I was in AL’s position. Chicago doesnt have a first rounder (Cutler trade) and a second rounder (Gaines trade), I also think they dont have a third rounder but not sure abt that, anyways, Tommie Harris is clearly in dog house and Urlacher is been replaced by Briggs so they clearly dont need those two picks. We can trade them two second rounders 2010 and 2011. Our Defensive line would be Ellis, Harris, Seymour, Scott. Our Lbs would be if we resign morrison and howard SLB Morrison (a position that fits him better), MLB Urlacher and WLB Howard. Our defense is set. With the remaining draft picks we can draft RT, RG, C with the first and two third rounders. We could also draft CB, Wrs and QB with the lower picks. That is a path to resurrection that I think is implementable especially since Chicago needs some picks to solve their aging OL.

  880. JT Says:

    I think the chargers lacked a good running game…

    Adday is a better RB at this point than LT/Sprowles…

    Look for Colts to take Sanchez to the wood shed

  881. JT Says:

    Hey Charged Up

    Chargers time was this year…

    You wont be back…

  882. lefty12 Says:

    screwed by the refs=lmfao.Sure,the refs selected to try an on sides kick when you should have kicked deep thereby letting the Jets go for it on 4th down instead of having to punt.The refs forced you to play conservatively the whole game thinking you could score at will and win at the end of the game if need be.I’ll give it to you that you probably had more talent,but you BLEW IT and it couldn’t make Raider fans happier.

  883. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    JT Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
    I think the chargers lacked a good running game…

    Adday is a better RB at this point than LT/Sprowles…

    Look for Colts to take Sanchez to the wood shed
    ======================================================
    Now we see why the Chargers wanted to trade for Michael Bush last year….if Cable is brought back, look for that trade to happen…since Cable believes that Justin Fargas is a top 10 back and that McFadden is a beast up the middle

  884. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Raiders4eve Says,

    I hear you. The Raiders run defense will be bad for a long time. Their philosophy is to get up by double digit points and then force the opponent to have to pass the ball each down…thereby allowing our speedy and stoutless players the ability to rush the passer and blanket the opponent in the secondary

  885. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Chargers are really garbage. Being a Raider fan right now is terrible…but at least we aren’t throwing away prime opportunity.

    Chargers, you are squandering your window and before you know it, you will look a lot like we do now, and hopefully we will be a .500 team

  886. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    should of put my money on the jets, oh well at least the chokers lost once again. so did the cowboys, ha ha

  887. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    #879, wouldn’t mind it at all but we know what is what out here.

  888. garcia Says:

    How sad is it when the once mighty Raiders are reduced to cheering for Charger losses. San Diego has won four straight conference championships, 14 straight against the Raiders, and when the season is over the people still get to live in San Diego instead of Oakland. All in all, that’s not too bad.

  889. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Chargers need to get rid of LT and just make Sproles their premiere back, and use him like how we used Garner in ‘02. The beauty of it is that they have an owner in their division dumb enough to give away half of his team for LT. Guess who it is.

  890. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Who wants to bet that if SD offered up Tomlinson for Nnamdi, straight up, Al would take it?

  891. lefty12 Says:

    so you are admitting McFadden isn’t a premiere RB because premiere RBs should be able to run wherever he is called upon to run.he should also be able to READ where he should take the ball.most running plays call for the RB to make reads and then either bust it up or break it out.did you see ‘little’ R. Bush lower his shoulders and get yds after contact?have you ever seen McFadden do that?have you ever seen McFadden read a run the way Bush did on his TD run?It doesn’t seem to bother C.Johnson when he is asked to run up the middle.aAs far as M.Bush goes,it probably isn’t his call.Cable had a hard enough time convincing the old man the anchor should be benched.As the saying goes-one brick at a time!

  892. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
    Who wants to bet that if SD offered up Tomlinson for Nnamdi, straight up, Al would take it?
    =======================================================
    It will be LT for Michael Bush and a 2nd rounder….and Cable would be thrilled while Davis still thinks LT has that fast 40x

  893. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    #888, conference champs? since when?

  894. Shawnraiders81 Says:

    There was a time when we won 3 straight division titles and lost in the Superbowl…….

    Oh thats right the chargers have only played in one of those things called the Superbowl.And the Raiders have played in 5.

    Update division titles mean nothing. Superbowl games mean everything.

  895. RaiderDogg Says:

    Clearly LT spent waaaay too much time making this video and not enough time studying film and doing squats:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkmyNzJQN0I

  896. Raiders4eve Says:

    Guarantee lock next week, Pick the Colts bet big.

    Breakdown, Chargers barely pressured Sanchez, that wont happen next week, with Dwight and Mathis they will kill Sanchez everytime he tries to pass. Colts been tested against the run this week when they played Ray Rice, so they will stop Greene. Reggie Wayne will get shutdown by Revis, but Manning has more weapons with TE Clark, Grocon, Collie. Jets will blitz alot and Manning would tear them apart. Pick the Colts all the way.

  897. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Lefty12,

    I want a running back that gets me 1200 yards. I don’t care about “violent running” or 40x.

    DMAC to me is a bust. Period.

    Fargas is an 800 yard back to me.

    Bush, I would just like to see him get the rock 15 to 20 a game for 4QTRS….I still have not seen that, yet, when he gets the ball he has more big games than naught.

  898. Shawnraiders81 Says:

    RaiderDogg Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
    Clearly LT spent waaaay too much time making this video and not enough time studying film and doing squats:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkmyNzJQN0I

    Funny Stuff!!!!!!

  899. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    mcfadden hasn’t shown real rb vision, needs big holes to break good runs. wonder if jerry jones still wants him.

  900. Shawnraiders81 Says:

    McFadden will be fine, he needs to learn to be more patient, he wants to sprint into D-lineman.

  901. Shawnraiders81 Says:

    Sandiego super losers!

  902. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    It doesn’t matter who the Raiders’ RB is, with their line.

  903. RaiderDogg Says:

    How come the Chargers never answer the phone?

    They have no ring!

    Dan Marino and Charles Barkley have the very same problem.

    Oldie but a goodie

  904. Shawnraiders81 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
    Chargers need to get rid of LT and just make Sproles their premiere back, and use him like how we used Garner in ‘02. The beauty of it is that they have an owner in their division dumb enough to give away half of his team for LT. Guess who it is.

    No No No the beauty of this is the Raiders are World Wide. Most of the fans don’t even live in California!!!! That’s what happens when you make more than one superbowl run…..

  905. Shawnraiders81 Says:

    garcia Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
    How sad is it when the once mighty Raiders are reduced to cheering for Charger losses. San Diego has won four straight conference championships, 14 straight against the Raiders, and when the season is over the people still get to live in San Diego instead of Oakland. All in all, that’s not too bad.

    No No No the beauty of this is the Raiders are World Wide. Most of the fans don’t even live in California!!!! That’s what happens when you make more than one superbowl run…..

  906. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    bush dosent run as hard as i would like a big back would, then he shares the fumblelidis with mcfadden, rb isn’t a real loaded position 4 us, but still way better than our o and d-lines of course. linebacker positions need to be addressed as well.

  907. lefty12 Says:

    we need a QB who can lead us more than we need a RB.look at the teams still left.if it wasn’t for Turner blowing that game today all the teams left are PASSING teams.look at Minn.-they had a great RB but couldn’t get to the championship game until they got a QB who could put points on the board.if we were competent on Offense(decent QB play) our Def. is good enough to win.If we could score points,the opponents couldn’t just pound us with the run.I’d also like to point out that when Grad. started we did score and therefore we were in or winning those games-and we all know Grad. isn’t a 1st rate QB.Imagine if we had one!!

  908. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Absolutely correct. McFelldown is a bust.

  909. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    raideredoutL.A. Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
    bush dosent run as hard as i would like a big back would, then he shares the fumblelidis with mcfadden, rb isn’t a real loaded position 4 us, but still way better than our o and d-lines of course. linebacker positions need to be addressed as well.
    ======================================================
    Please, he actually has speed and runs well enough to average 4.8 yds per carry on 123 carries.

    The Raiders HAVE TO STOP their affection for mediocre players like Fargas, Green, Eugene etc….that just don’t get the job done!

  910. Shawnraiders81 Says:

    Norv Turner – the gift that keeps on giving.

  911. JT Says:

    Chargers were thight, they got intimidated by Rex Ryans predictions…

    The key to this game was charger offense againts jets defense…. if chargers could have gone up by 14 points… jets would have lost… simple as that….

    but they kept it close till rivers got frustrated and started taking chances into tight coverages…

    also that kicker is a choke…

  912. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Lefty12,

    We need a smashmouth offensive line and run the football and then throw in spots.

    The Raiders historically are competitive when they can run the ball.

    Gradkowski? I am telling you, 2 freekn games does not mean squat! He earned the right to compete for the job next year and that’s it. A guy that got cut by 3 QB needy teams in his short time here probably has some glaring weaknesses that will be exposed when opponents can game plan him.

    We need to bring in a vet QB to compete. I hope the Eagles cut McNabb or the Seahawks cut Hasselback. That would be a perfect opportunity for the Raiders to pounce

  913. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    The Jets got to the AFC Championship game by having a boss offensive line, a strong running game and very good defense.

    That’s the path Tom Cable should have followed. Instead he tried to make us like the freekn Colts

  914. Norco Bob Says:

    NFL teams all have the same goal, win Superbowls,…the Chargers are on a dwindling list of teams still without one,..yes they are on a nice run, but what do division titles get you?…probably fired if youre Norv Turner,…yes the Chargers have been beating the Raiders the last several years,..if all they care about are divion titles then theyre doing great,…but they once again choked in a major way today, Norv probably will be fired, LT likely played his last game there, the Chargers havent won a thing,…Fouts couldnt do it, and I doubt they ever will,…the Raiders are in terrible shape right now for sure, I see it up close every year, but you cant take away their three Superbowls,…they own them,…they own as much as the rest of the division combined,…Charger fans like to give us a hard time, up until you ask them how many superbowls have they won,…that being said I didnt get any joy out of them losing today, because I dont give a damn about them, never have and never will.

  915. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    bush is another question mark on this team, as i stated earlier, the rb position is fine where we’re at, other holes need to be addressed, but it’s obvious as well bush isn’t ready to carry the load. always asking 4 a breather, fumble prone, and basically unproven at this point. it suited him basically, to be underutilized to keep healthy and fresh for big games late in the season.

  916. lefty12 Says:

    people are always crying because we get so called track stars instead of ‘football’ players,yet continually knock the ‘football’ players we have because they aren’t good enough.

  917. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Lefty, thank you for proving that Al Davis can’t spot football players.

  918. JT Says:

    Al Davis is the supreme choke job come draft day

    Shone Green in round 3 by the jets…
    Ray Rice by the ravens…

    Wait, these RB’s are too short and run slow right?…

    We draft the 6′1″ McFadden that falls easily and cant stay healthy…

    Al Davis has no brains for talent evaluation… that is the reason we suck

  919. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    # Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:
    January 17th, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    We’ll be back next year. Don’t get your heads down Charger Nation! We have to persevere just like those poor people in Haiti. Rivers won’t let that happen. Next year is our time soon as we get rid of Norv. Maybe we can get Kiffin.
    ===================================================

    If you had any doubt that Charged up is a selfish dolt, then see the above where he compares the Chargers loss to the plight of the Haitian people.

    TOTALLY CLASSLESS.

  920. lefty12 Says:

    S&B-read my whole post before you go off on one of your rants .i said Grad. wasn’t a 1st rate QB but he was the best one we put out there this year.I disagree with the type of team we should put out there.We need a team that can put points on the board.The Jets only won because Turner blew it.ALL THE TEAMS LEFT ARE PASSING TEAMS except the Jets and they should have LOST.

  921. raidertalk Says:

    I hate to say it but Cable should get another chance(although he needs an o coordinator). When he benched JaBustus we started winning. Until Grads and Frye got injured because of no pass protection.
    Who’s fault is it that we do not have O-linemen?
    When was the last time we drafted or traded for or got a FA O-lineman who was a probowler? The last one I can remember was Lincoln Kennedy???

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