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Patriot games in the AFC West

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, January 18th, 2010 at 5:24 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The Patriot influence continues to infiltrate the AFC West.

First, the Raiders trade for Richard Seymour.

Then the Chiefs coach Todd Haley, influenced by former Patriots exec Scott Pioli, hires a pair of new coordinators in Bill Belichick disciples Charlie Weis and Romeo Crennel.

Now the Denver Broncos, with former Pats’ assistant Josh McDaniels in charge, have split with defensive coordinator Mike Nolan with Profootballtalk.com reporting the new coordinator could be ex-Patriot Dean Pees.

The only New England-free zone is in San Diego, which did performed another playoff face-plant against the Jets Sunday.

But here’s the thing about all the former Patriots making their way to other organizations. Their effect has been far from spectacular.

After Seymour’s debut, weren’t you thinking along the lines of double-digit sacks, instead of just the four he ended up with? And if Seymour took care of business to the extent he says he did, the rest of the line must be really bad, considering the way the Raiders defended the run.

Weis was asked to leave Notre Dame with millions and Crennel was replaced in Cleveland by another former Patriot Eric Mangini, who held on to the job by his fingernails.

– Good read in the Los Angeles Times on former Raider Napoleon McCallum, hoping to run a marathon and philosophical about the grotesque injury in the 1994 season opener that ended his career.

– Nnamdi Asomugha isn’t going to complain, not with $45.3 million over three years headed his way, but he had to be at least a little envious watching the Jets’ Darrelle Revis play as spectacularly as he did on the biggest stage in New York’s win over the Chargers.

It only makes sense for a defense to adjust its scheme to put its best players in position to make plays. It’s something John Marshall should be thinking hard about this offseason, doing what Rex Ryan has done with Revis.

– At some point, Tom Cable and Warren Sapp must have had words. Sapp has taken to trashing Cable every chance he gets. He’s said Cable couldn’t lead a team to a backyard barbecue, hammered him last week on the Dan Patrick Show, claiming he knew which way Cable’s center was going before the snap 90 percent of the time, and then had this to say on his NFL.com live chat:

Q: Cable, Russell, who would you keep?

Sapp: Tom Cable couldn’t guard my dog house. At least I know Russell has skills. I don’t think Cable will be back.

– LaDainian Tomlinson has always been good on conference calls and has long had a great reputation, but his sideline demeanor when things aren’t going his way, particularly in the Chargers’ postseason meltdowns, has been awful. He has defeat written all over his face while sitting on the bench while his teammates are fighting it out.

Looks like LT has played his last game in the Raiders-Chargers series, which, considering his production against Oakland, won’t bother Raiders fans one bit.

– If the Vikings want to jam in one more touchdown against the Cowboys, so be it. Keith Brooking can complain all he wants, but as he conceded, it was up to Dallas to stop it.

Here’s the reason why the Raiders would take a knee in the same situation (if they ever happen to be up by 24 points in a playoff game) _ taking a knee is more deflating to the opposition than scoring the touchdown.

You score the touchdown, they get angry and can temporarily focus on something else other than the whipping they received. Take a knee and you’re saying, “We could score if we wanted. We just don’t have to. We’re taking it easy on you.”

Taking a knee is not only better sportsmanship and prevents fluke injury, but it’s a crushing symbol of superiority.

– Time will tell if the Raiders are in the market for a head coach, but if Buffalo is really zeroing in on Chan Gailey as its head coach, Vikings defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier ought to make the highly speculative “candidates” list despite being on the “wrong” side of the ball.

– Sure, it would be nice if Nate Kaeding to vacate his Pro Bowl spot after three missed field goals. Not that it would help Sebastian Janikowski any. Seabass’ shortest miss was from 45 yards, but he wasn’t even an alternate.

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  • BadMoodGuy

    BAN THE TROLLS!

  • http://www.raiderfans.net Richochet

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    January 18th, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    Don’t forget that Al and Dick Nolan, Mike’s dad, go back aways and always had a decent relationship. Having Mike here in some front office capacity might not be the worst thing.
    =======================
    Go back aways? lol…oh..you mean go back a ways.
    Got cha.
    Except they had a zero relationship, dumbass.
    Show me anywhere that they were anything but casual?
    they weren’t.
    And obviously you don’t know anything about Mike Nolan.
    The guy has about as much tact as a flea.

    And WHAT THE HELL DOES IT MATTER if his dad knew Al or not? How does that matter? lol…you freaking idiot.

    AIG: “Hey, he knew his dad. I’ll bet that makes a difference”…dumbass.

  • http://www.raiderfans.net Richochet

    “BAN THE CROSS POSTERS’

  • 504 Raider

    Don’t take Cable for a leader myself. But 90% of Raider fans on that poll thinks otherwise.

  • BadMoodGuy

    A Troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community.

    BAN THE TROLLS!

  • http://www.raiderfans.net Richochet

    Isn’t this a wonderful time of year for Raider fans?
    It’s kind of like the “real” season.
    Forget the games. Forget training camp.

    this is the time of year some of you run your 4000 draft needs/choice, (In Florida Petey’s sake, 8,488)day after day, week after week, leading up to April.
    THEN, after Al makes another bonehead pick, the same ones then switch gears and state ‘Oh, I LOVE THAT WE PICKED JR” “Now we have the 3 BEST RB’S IN THE LEAGUE” “BEY WILL SET RECEIVING RECORDS WITH JR..THE DEEP BALL IS BACK”..

    with all the visions of grandeur..predictions of lost glory coming back…believing that FINALLY the notion that Al has completely lost it will be put to rest…

    BUT..then the season starts….and *POOF*…gone..just like that.
    Only Raider fans look forward to the off season, even more than the regular season. It’s the only time of year Raider fans can actually feel good about something (albeit fantasy).

    Don’t you just love this time of year?

  • 504 Raider

    So it looks like we will be the only 4-3 defense in the AFC West next season. Which means we might get beat to the punch on some good LBs in the draft.

  • 504 Raider

    Don’t think any of us said DHB would set the world on fire.

    It was Cable who said that DHB would score 60 TDs in Texas Tech video game offense.

  • http://www.raiderfans.net Richochet

    # BadMoodGuy Says:
    January 18th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    A Troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community.

    BAN THE TROLLS!
    ===============
    You idiot, lol.
    No inflammatory?
    Extraneious?
    Off-topic? NONE OF THOSE?

    You obviously haven’t been here very long.
    Why do you think this blog has so many posts? It’s NOT because everyone holds hands, has tea, and politely discusses the nuances of running a football organization.

    Now shut up before you hurt yourself.

  • http://www.raiderfans.net Richochet

    # 504 Raider Says:
    January 18th, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    Don’t think any of us said DHB would set the world on fire.

    It was Cable who said that DHB would score 60 TDs in Texas Tech video game offense.
    ===================
    On the contrary, 504.
    Once the shock wore off, LOTS of posters will thrilled the Raiders picked Bey.
    As many were jazzed the Raiders passed on Crabtree.

    Now?

    Well..you know how that turned out.

  • Seymour Bush

    wack-o-chet I am going to ignore your idiocy, not because you scare me or I can’t trounce you, I just (like everyone else here) don’t care a lick what you think about anything.

    Would someone go find Al’s drool rag? Wack-o is ruining the Alameda County Mental Health Crisis Clinic’s computer again with his ravings and droolings.

  • Culebra

    SD choking and Dallas getting crushed. Ah! yeah. T’was a good Sunday.

    Schadenfreude anyone?

  • Seymour Bush

    Offensive linemen have to be our priority in the next draft. There is probably a good chance that Brandon Spikes could fall to the top of the 2nd round, at which point that would be a great point to take him.

  • http://www.raiderfans.net Richochet

    Seymour? lol..would you like me to paste that same exact white flag waving, tail between legs, quick retreat to the shallow end of the pool, whimper that you posted as Aig, after you had your ass handed to you?

    Oh..uh…the question you’re so desperate to avoid is what name did you post with just a short time ago, prior to changing it to Seymour?

    Well, AIG, inquiring minds want to know.

    BTW, you dumbass. When you so OBVIOUSLY SWITCHED HANDLES, don’t you think it would have made more sense if you didn’t just cold turkey stop posting as AIG? And then to make matters worse, dumbass, once I pointed out it was you, do you think it the smartest thing that you then jumped on, as AIG, to post?

    Are you honestly this stupid?? (rhetorical question, pumpkin)

  • Seymour Bush

    Do any of you guys feel that wack-o’s family pawned him off on us because they too are tired of his frantic cry for attention rants? That’s what I thought.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    504 Raider Says:
    January 18th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
    Don’t take Cable for a leader myself. But 90% of Raider fans on that poll thinks otherwise.

    **********************************

    I think most fans are like myself, we don’t really like Cable or think he is any top-flight coach. But with knowing Al and the potential for the alternative to be another failure, we are pretty indifferent to firing him and just as rather keep him.

  • Chris in NY

    Q: Cable, Russell, who would you keep?

    Sapp: Tom Cable couldn’t guard my dog house. At least I know Russell has skills. I don’t think Cable will be back.

    ——————-

    Can we hire Sapp as our GM? Pretty pleeeease!!!

    This guy knows football.

    P.S. – I’m being sarcastic.

  • raiden305

    how in the world janokowski was NOT an alternate? i dont understand? he was the best kicker in the NFL BY FAR. and hes not even an alternate screw the NFL.

  • Chris in NY

    vegas raider Says:
    January 18th, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    I think most fans are like myself, we don’t really like Cable or think he is any top-flight coach. But with knowing Al and the potential for the alternative to be another failure, we are pretty indifferent to firing him and just as rather keep him.

    ———————

    That’s a good assessment Vegas.

    I’m not all gung ho about Cable by any stretch. I’d rather have Fassel or Harbaugh or Gruden, among others. But I’ll take Cable over Gilbride or Art Shell Part III or Rob Ryan or many others as well.

  • lefty12

    thanks,Jerry.Any chance of Frazier being considered is now out the window.wWe all know the old man won’t hire an up and comer unless it is his idea.

  • http://i41.tinypic.com/eb53t3.jpg Lynn from Snot

    The pro bowl is a joke, all pro selection is the benchmark for greatness.

  • Seymour Bush

    Tom Cable has the attention of the team. He has the team going in the right direction. He ran a pro style offense which was for the most part imaginative. He did not have the horses to do better. When you are 5-11 obviously most fans feel Cable did not do enough to win, but that is an indication of the personnel and attitudes he had to deal with, more than anything on his part. Tom Cable is not the main reason this team is a 5-11 team.

  • lefty12

    careful Seymour,making sense on here is frowned upon-especially when it involves Cable.

  • RaiderResurrection

    The Pro Bowl is a popularity contest. What we need is more zone blitzing and a better line (both sides of the ball)

  • http://www.raiderfans.net Richochet

    Seymour/AIG?? First you state you are going to ignore me, then immediately follow that with a post about me.
    You’re consistent, AIG, I’ll give you that.
    Consistently dense.

  • DKnight007

    If the old man can’t get Gruden, Harbaugh, or Garrett, then there really is no point in hiring coaches like Gilbride and Fassel ahead of keeping Cable and letting Cable hire a OC/Play caller to work with Grads, Vick, Thigpen, or Juggs if he returns at a reduced salary.

  • DKnight007

    HIRE JIM HARBAUGH!!

  • Seymour Bush

    I do not believe Harbaugh is coming here. Obviously Gruden is not coming here. It now appears that Jerry Jones is keeping Wade Phillips and his 1-5 playoff record which means Jason Garrett is not going anywhere. So, does that mean anyone else better is going to come here? And keep in mind, everyone in Cinncy wanted to run Marvin Lewis and his 46-50 record before this year, his 7th.

    On another note, for you Zen masters, if a wack job raves and drools in the corner and nobody hears it, does it make a sound?

  • RaiderResurrection

    Get rid of JaCarcass and used the saved 7-8 million to attract marquee free agents or sign draft picks.

  • http://www.raiderfans.net Richochet

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    January 18th, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    Tom Cable has the attention of the team.

    RICHOCHET: Wrong, moron. The team doesn’t know he’s alive. Game day? NOT A SINGLE PLAYER EVEN GLANCES IN HIS DIRECTION..in other words, they could care less.
    If what your ignorant ass means is “Players NEVER dis a HC, especially when he’s still with the team”??
    Yeah, no kidding, Sherlock. You figured that out all on your own? Good boy.
    ########################
    He has the team going in the right direction.

    RICHOCHET: right direction? Team just had ANOTHER year in which they continued with the 11+ loss seasons. Team is still the laughingstock of the NFL.
    You’re confused, aren’t you?

    #########################
    He ran a pro style offense which was for the most part imaginative.

    RICHOCHET: Oh geez..imaginative? LMFAO..that, arguably, is the dumbest thing you’ve ever said.

    ######################
    He did not have the horses to do better. When you are 5-11 obviously most fans feel Cable did not do enough to win, but that is an indication of the personnel and attitudes he had to deal with, more than anything on his part. Tom Cable is not the main reason this team is a 5-11 team.

    Richochet: AND YOU HAVE CRAP FOR BRAINS, AIG. Cable kept in Bey all year long…THAT’S ON CABLE. Cable couldn’t figure out how the hell to use the RB’s…the WHOLE YEAR..that’s on Cable. Cable never once was able to instill one iota of motivation towards Russell..THAT’S ON CABLE. Russell was under the impression all year long that he was doing just fine..THAT’S ON CABLE.

    The rule in the NFL is the coach should never make the difference in a game the team lost..Cable’s fingerprints were all over this disastrous season..

    You may read only. Do NOT attempt to reply.
    read..whimper…tail between legs…
    Repeat when necessary.

  • Dude

    DKnight,

    Has it been recently made legal for people to put guns to other peoples head to make them take a job?? Cuz thats the only way Harbaugh is coming to Oakland.

  • Norco Bob

    Hi fellas, hows all my peeps doing this evening?

  • Norco Bob

    You guys want Harbaugh?…for what job?…is there an opening?….what?

  • JB

    Just back from a trip & first oportunity to coment on anything. So, here goes:

    WAY TO GO SAN DIEGO CHOKERS!!!!!!!

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    The thing I will give Cable is that when we are actually in the game, we win a fair amount of them.

    He just get’s blown out WAAAYYYYY too much.

  • 504 Raider

    If Cable stays and we get an OC to call plays, Cable will say all throughout the game “I don’t like that look the defense is giving us, let’s run DMac between the tackles.”

  • lefty12

    Vegas-did you notice all the blow outs in the playoffs.The reason-turnovers.Turn the ball over early and often and any team can get blown out.

  • Seymour Bush

    On another note, for you Zen masters, if a wack job raves and drools in the corner and nobody hears it, does it make a sound?

  • Norco Bob

    Hey Bush,..that directed at me?

  • Seymour Bush

    Vegas the reason Cable thinks this thing is about to get turned is in 2007 when the Raiders won, they would then drop 5-6 games in a row. In 2008 when they won, they would then drop 3-4 games in a row. Last year, it was 1-2 games. So the trend is good. I believe like Cable that if they can string two or three wins together, this thing will change quickly in the right direction. Now, with an upgraded offensive line, a defensive stopper in the middle, and better Q play, should be a no brainer.

  • Seymour Bush

    # Norco Bob Says:
    January 18th, 2010 at 6:34 pm

    Hey Bush,..that directed at me?
    =======================================

    No, you’re entertaining. It’s wack-ochet, the wack job.

  • RaiderResurrection

    Norco Bob is right. There’s no job opening. Well as far as we know.

    We all know that there are better candidates. But as each day passes by there’s a dwindling possibility of Cable being fired.

    We just need to relax and keep making fun of our beloved 2007 first overall pick, because that’s all the good he’s for.

    Whoever came up with Jameatloaf is a genius is the worst way.

  • aig

    all of our blowouts have been involving the debacle of the great Jawalrus at the QB position. give Cable one more year to find out what he can really do with a true QB competion in camp. The team has played hard for him in Dec. We’re all forgeting that Cable is learning on the job too. He has his pos and negs but the key thing is the team plays hard for him. That is very important for any HC. I am sure Cable will learn not to do things he did this year.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Lefty12,

    I also saw the Jets kick the ball off to start the game, and go 3 and out the first three times they had the ball.

    What would be down if that happened? 14-0? 17-0? 21-0?

    With this team under Cable, you can kind of tell how things will go by the second quarter, good or bad. But if they brought back Bruce and Cable,I would be happy.

  • RaiderResurrection

    Hey AIG

    remember what the General Managing Partner said on his overhead projector…

    “Jamarcus Russell is a great quarterback, get over it”

    -AD

  • Try Some Reality

    Tomlinson is a crybaby. I noticed the same thing yesterday. What a sissy quitter he is. He even put on his helmet with his shaded visor for his walk to the locker room. Chump!

  • http://www.raiderfans.net Richochet

    Do you know how you know you completely own someone’s ass?
    Just know you have them jumping through hoops? that they’re obsessing over ya?

    When a posters states to one and all he’s going to “ignore you from now on”, then proceeds to post to everyone else, bringing you up, lol.

    It’s like they’re too damn stupid to realize they’re screaming out “I HATE THE FACT I CAN’T HOLD MY OWN SO I’M REDUCED TO TALKING TO OTHERS ABOUT YOU’.

    Yes, funny as hell, but kind of sad.
    Ok, it’s not..lol…it’s the coup de grace’..

    I told you, Seymour/Aig..stay in the shallow end of the pool.
    You just embarrass yourself when you stick your little toe out, testing the waters.

  • Try Some Reality

    Jamarcus Russell is a big piece of SH1T! Get over it!

  • Norco Bob

    Hey raider erection, …Im the last one to support Jamarcus,..but hey, Iv been proven wrong before,..and he will be starting in 2010,..so might as well hope for the best.

  • Norco Bob

    Yo Rich!..wattup bro? :)