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Raiders live chat on Tuesday, with a new twist

Assuming we hit Day 16 since the end of the regular season and the Raiders haven’t made a definitive statement regarding Tom Cable’s employment, let’s try a different tack with Tuesday’s weekly chat at noon.

Instead of answering the same question several different ways, tell me what you think. Then I’ll tell you whether I think you’re right or wrong. If I’ve written something you think is particularly stupid, have at it. If there’s something I’ve overlooked, tell me what it is and I’ll either defend myself or agree.

Let’s make this week about what you think _ and I’ll chime in. When it comes to what Al Davis is going to do, your guess is probably as good as mine, anyway.

– Jerry McDonald

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  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Vegas, we need an offensive line before we can use Gradkowski. He’s too small and will get killed in our offense. He had a couple of solid games. But look what eventually happened to him? Our offense does not protect quarterbacks. It’s Al’s lowest priority, right down there with cohesiveness, chemistry, and winning.

  • bcz24

    Yeah…. good idea. Cut the best player on the team. I think we should cut Lechler too… he punts to darn good.

  • jhill

    DMAC Says:
    January 19th, 2010 at 11:25 am

    You want Cable gone, but you support Russell? Get real!

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    I think I said that I want an Asst Head Coach/Offensive Coordinator!

    Damn, can you get anything right?

    And I don’t support Russell, the OWNER does!

  • RaiderRockstar

    RRS was a blind to incompetence as you are.

    ***
    BSJ,

    Last 2 seasons

    Fargas: 347 carries, 1344 yards & 4 TD’s (3.87 ypc)

    McFadden: 217 carries, 856 yards & 5 TD’s (3.94 ypc)

  • Tom cables pimp hand

    Yeah…. good idea. Cut the best player on the team. I think we should cut Lechler too… he punts to darn good.

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    Lol and the guy says al is bad.hahahaha smh

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Cable, Jordan’s comment was a shot across the bow at their owner, nothing more. It was not meant to be a philosophical point on the players’ role in choosing a coach. There’s no application.

  • DKnight007

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 19th, 2010 at 11:26 am
    DKnight007 Says:
    January 19th, 2010 at 10:07 am

    Nnamdi Asomougha was on ESPN’s First Take this morning (with the scary bioootch Dana Jacobsen) saying how allowing Cable to return as head coach would give the players much needed continuity (especially on the offensive side of the ball with playbook terminology) and confidence into next season.

    …………….

    If Nnamdi meant that, he should be cut. Surely he understands that in the NFL going from 5-11 to 5-11 is not acceptable.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Yeah…cutting or trading Nnamdi would be another “GENIUS” move by the delusional old man Al.
    LOL

  • Tom cables pimp hand

    Russel is the worse qb I’ve ever seen I think, and I swore up and down josh mcClown and his noodle arm was bad.smh

  • RaiderRockstar

    BSJ,

    Last 2 seasons

    Fargas: 27 catches for 165 yards

    McFadden: 50 catches for 530 yards

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    bcz24, if Nnamdi Asomugha really thinks that going from 5-11 to 5-11 is “continuity”, I’m convinced he cheated on every quiz in college and is dumber than a rock. That being said, I don’t think he is dumb. I think he’s just playing his cards right, in case Cable does come back. He has nothing to lose by saying something positive, plenty to lose if he bashes Cable due to the possibility of Cable coming back. I don’t think Nnamdi even meant what he said. But if he did, he’s got issues. 5-11 from 5-11 = continuity? On what planet?

  • RaiderRockstar

    let’s not forget that Fargas has been in the league 5 years longer than DMC…

  • RaiderRockstar

    fumble problems can be corrected.

    see Tiki Barber & Adrian Peterson!

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    DKnight, if Nnamdi really thinks going from 5-11 to 5-11 is continuity, he should be shot. Never mind traded.

  • M Lonetree

    MR,

    O-line is Al’s lowest priority? C’mon man. I would have to believe that listening to what you have to say ranks much lower as a priority for Al than the O-line.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Seymour Bush Says:
    January 19th, 2010 at 11:29 am
    vegas raider Says:
    January 19th, 2010 at 11:23 am

    Steelers-Best offensive games all year, best passing game in years, and best 4th quarter EVER
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    I love Bruce Gradkowski, but if you remember on the game winning drive a Pitt DB dropped a sure INT that was thrown RIGHT to him. Murphy then went up among THREE defenders and brought a very ill advised ball down which NEVER happened with Russell. If neither of those two fluke things happened 99% of you would be cursing Gradkowski just like you all curse Tom Brady and the tuck game.

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    If he throws a pick on that drive, it still would have been one of our best offensive game all year.

    He did catch a few breaks, but he still had the same crappy coach, horrible O-line, inexperienced WR’s and in the games Bruce played, Bush never got carries and it was when Fargas was the feature back.

  • M Lonetree

    Rockstar,

    Adrian Peterson’s fumble-itis has not gone away at all (didn’t he lead the league in fumbles?). Unless you mean Adrian Peterson of the Chicago Bears.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    I don’t care how good Nnamdi is, nobody that stupid can be productive to a team. Then again, I don’t think his words are genuine, anyway. Think he’s just toeing the company line. But if he does mean that, that keeping Cable would bring “continuity”, considering we haven’t improved one iota under him, then his so called academic background is a sham. I’d be convinced that he’d never even read a book in his life if he thinks that. It’s a stupid as it gets.

  • jhill

    Cincy game … Grads had 100 yds passing before the last drive, lol. Cmon Vegas. And just thank GOD that Joseph dropped that pick on that last drive that was RIGHT to him, right or wrong.

    We both talked about how good the Pittsburgh game was for Cable and Grads. But with that said, didn’t we only have SIX points going into the 4th qtr?

    The Washington game? Lol! Grads had 2 big passes to McFadden, but was awful other than that. I’m sure you’ll check the stats. The worst part about the Washington game to me wa Cable’s inability to adjust. Once Washington adjusted a corner to McFadden’s motion, the game was OVER!

  • RaiderRockstar

    hire Gilbride!

    he’s good with young QB’s and knows how to use more than 1 RB …

    plus I doubt he’d settle for scrubs along the o-line like Cable does

  • Tom cables pimp hand

    Cable, Jordan’s comment was a shot across the bow at their owner, nothing more. It was not meant to be a philosophical point on the players’ role in choosing a coach. There’s no application.

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    I don’t mean it for choosin a coach in general I was saying players opinions matter. If they don’t like a coach what happens??? You have the shell ordeal, 2 win seasons, and everybody jumpin ship. If a player dosen’t believe in what the coach is sellin the season is at a lost because they have to perform the plays being called. But if you feel it doesn’t apply thats you’re opinnion and I don’t see why you tell me your opinion when I really don’t care. You posted a comment about that post just to tell me you feel it doesn’t apply…

  • The Big Banana

    Norv got an extension through 2013. No SuperBowls for SD on the horizon.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Adrian Peterson’s fumble-itis has not gone away at all (didn’t he lead the league in fumbles?).

    ***

    he fumbled 6 times, losing 5.

    does that lead the league?

  • SATANFEARS ALDAVIS

    well grads didnt start at the beginning of the season and his recievers were babies os give him a break

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Cable, Jordan’s comments had nothing to do with players, their role, an owner’s role, anything. He was just dissing their owner. That’s all.

  • Tom cables pimp hand

    The Washington game? Lol! Grads had 2 big passes to McFadden, but was awful other than that. I’m sure you’ll check the stats. The worst part about the Washington game to me wa Cable’s inability to adjust. Once Washington adjusted a corner to McFadden’s motion, the game was OVER
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    Grads didn’t have anytime in that game. the redskins D was wearin his jersey.smh

  • SATANFEARS ALDAVIS

    i know banana but small minded people say al davis only owner that mkaes mistakes. norv turner worst coach ever since rich kotite but somehow , someway these silly rich old white dudes keep hiring them ,, like lil kiffy boy. what has he ever done other than land a hot wife ?

  • SATANFEARS ALDAVIS

    new post new post!

  • Tom cables pimp hand

    i know banana but small minded people say al davis only owner that mkaes mistakes. norv turner worst coach ever since rich kotite but somehow , someway these silly rich old white dudes keep hiring them ,, like lil kiffy boy. what has he ever done other than land a hot wife ?

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    manipulate al and destroy tennessee.lol

  • RaiderRockstar

    Ole and Sven have a snowmobiling accident, drunker than skunks, both die, and go to Hell.

    The Devil observes that they are really enjoying themselves.

    He says to them ‘Doesn’t the heat and smoke bother you?’

    Ole replies, ‘Vell, ya know, ve’re from nordern Minnesooota, da land of
    snow an ice, an ve’re yust happy fer a chance ta varm up a little bit, ya know.’
    The devil decides that these two aren’t miserable enough and turns up the heat even more. When he returns to the room of the two from Minnesota, the devil finds them in light jackets and hats, grilling Walleye and drinking beer. The devil is astonished and exclaims, ‘Everyone down here is in misery, and you two seem to be enjoying yourselves?’

    Sven replies, ‘Vell, ya know, ve don’t git too much varm veather up
    dere at da Falls, so ve’ve yust got ta haff a fish fry vhen da veather’s
    dis nice.’

    The devil is absolutely furious. He can hardly see straight. Finally he
    comes up with the answer. The two guys love the heat because they have been cold all their lives. The devil decides to turn all the heat off. The next morning, the temperature is 60 below zero, icicles are hanging everywhere, and people are shivering so bad that they are unable to wail, moan or gnash their teeth. The devil smiles and heads for the room with Ole and Sven. He gets there and finds them back in their parkas, bomber hats, and mittens. They are jumping up and down, cheering, yelling and screaming like mad men.

    The devil is dumbfounded, ‘I don’t understand, when I turn up the
    heat you’re happy. Now its freezing cold and you’re still happy. What is wrong with you two?’

    They both look at the devil in surprise and say, ‘Vell, don’t ya know, if hell iss froze over, dat must mean da Vikings von da Super Bowl.’

  • The Big Banana

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    January 19th, 2010 at 11:41 am

    hire Gilbride!

    he’s good with young QB’s and knows how to use more than 1 RB …

    plus I doubt he’d settle for scrubs along the o-line like Cable does
    ==================================================
    That’s something I feel some folks are overlooking. Here’s a guy who’s specialty is the O-line and yet the O-line is crap. Playcalling? Please. Commitment to running the ball. Non-existent. Motivator? Maybe, but why all the blowout losses, especially after a W? Working with Al. I’ll give you that but do we have to put up with all his other inefficiencies just because he works well with Al? And if he does work well with Al, why didn’t he convince him that we weren’t ready to be a passing offense?

    Seymour said so himself. Bring in some good coaches.

  • Seymour Bush

    jhill Says:
    January 19th, 2010 at 11:40 am

    The Washington game?
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    What most “fans” don’t remember about the Washington game was late in the lst half, we had a 3rd and 12 that Gradkowski “completed” to Murphy. The Raiders then went up and ran another play gaining two yards, only to have the prior play reviewed! I have NEVER seen that before!

    The lst down completion was over ruled, forcing the Raiders to punt. On the ensuing punt, Eugene breathed on the Washington returner giving them 15 yards! Fassel jumped onto the playing field, giving Washington ANOTHER 15 yards! The Raiders then completely gave up, giving Washington a late TD and deflating the team. Russell then came in to start the 2nd half to a deafening chorus of boooos, and he was the one given credit for deflating the team. Good one.

  • bcz24

    MR – What dictionary do you read that has “improvement” in the definition of “continuity”?

  • CJ Legend 34

    Does anyone think we will pick up McNabb next year if his contract does not pan out? Rumor has it he is already being phased out. He can throw the deep ball and he can set it up as well. What do you think?

  • bcz24

    If we dump Jamarcus there is a slim possibility we grab McNabb, no way we keep Russell and get McNabb though… no way we could spend almost 20 million next year on QB’s

  • Tom cables pimp hand

    I doubt the eagles get rid of him… they’d be stupid if they did because they will be in for a rude awakening when that other qb plays a full season, part of that becareful what you wish for type of thing. If he did leave I doubt he’d come to oakland, I could see him in san fran tho with vd, crabtree, gore, and dez bryant. Idk why but I have a feeling if bryants there when they pick the niners wil take bryant with one of their first picks.

  • bcz24

    Im of the opinion that if available, SF takes Tebow in the first round.

  • Tom cables pimp hand

    If the niners picked tebow first that’d be pretty stupid… So I hope they do it.lol

  • Tom cables pimp hand

    that ole poo butt jerry aint answer or respond to any of my comments… What a fat slob.smh

  • RaiderDebo

    Post #442 is brilliant. Jhill, you and Priest are about the only two guys that seem to “get it”. I call into Sirius all the time and try to make the same point. Some guys just let themselves get brainwashed by the media. JaMarcus needs to do better, but you can’t ignore the issues with his supporting cast, nor the fact that he was coming along quite nicely before the offseason from hell where we lost Knapp, Schneider and Chaz. Al knows this and he’ll do what’s right regardless of what the talking heads and the blind fans that hang on their words say.