Raiders live chat on Tuesday, with a new twist
By Jon Becker
Monday, January 18th, 2010 at 7:37 pm in Live chats, Oakland Raiders.
Assuming we hit Day 16 since the end of the regular season and the Raiders haven’t made a definitive statement regarding Tom Cable’s employment, let’s try a different tack with Tuesday’s weekly chat at noon.
Instead of answering the same question several different ways, tell me what you think. Then I’ll tell you whether I think you’re right or wrong. If I’ve written something you think is particularly stupid, have at it. If there’s something I’ve overlooked, tell me what it is and I’ll either defend myself or agree.
Let’s make this week about what you think _ and I’ll chime in. When it comes to what Al Davis is going to do, your guess is probably as good as mine, anyway.
– Jerry McDonald
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January 18th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
I hate being 1st.
January 18th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
504 Raider Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Norv Turner wouldn’t work for Al Davis again, not even for $4 million + Laser Surgery.
January 18th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
Ya 504, we got it on the previous thread…you think that was worth reposting?
January 18th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
Norco,
Put it here in case some Norv talk snowballed.
January 18th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
BadMoodGuy Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Richochet is a troll
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No doubt. Completely ignoring that crazy ignoramus is the best policy.
January 18th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
If Al is going to send Cable walking, why is he wasting time? This organization needs to be working right now on improving for 2010.
That Al against the world thing is only working against Al. If Cable is staying, let it be known so he can get to work and start improving. Maybe a FA or two need to know.
I know that is not the M.O. of Davis, but the league is miles ahead of him. Again Al, parity is for the bottom feeders only.
January 18th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Norco Bob, did you make to your destination? What up with the snow???
January 18th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
Ya I was at Sierra today, too windy, was a mess,..its snowing there currently….5K
January 18th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
“Raiders live chat on Tuesday, with a new twist”
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Is Jerry feeling the corporate pressure from McDonald’s? Needs to drive up his numbers for his chat maybe?
Sounds like he just wants to argue with people.
January 18th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
And up…
January 18th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
The Senior Bowl is in less than 2 weeks and the much hyped “practices” are in a week.
Do the Raiders seem like they have a plan in place right now to get the most out of the week? Who knows, maybe they do. But Al probably will focus on the combine and forty times.
January 18th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Let’s make this week about what you think _ and I’ll chime in. When it comes to what Al Davis is going to do, your guess is probably as good as mine, anyway.
– Jerry McDonald
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Jerry, I know exactly what Al Davis is going to do:
He may or may not fire Tom Cable.
He will most certainly make a decision at his own choice of time whether he will keep Tom Cable or send him packing. And most certain you can be sure that Al will most probably keep Cable as HC, while it is least likely Al will retain him as HC. You can bank it!!!!!
January 18th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Personally I think I would be more comfortable if Al and Herrera escorted Raider O, Florida Pete and Chris in NY to Mobile next week.
January 18th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Vegas whats your trip?…a plan in place?…they have a full coaching staff,…what else you want?…(dont say GM please)
January 18th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
I want them to have the appearance of some competence. What is Herrera and Trask going to go down and scout? Our ace scout Zack Crockett?
I want them to operate like a successful NFL franchise. The day’s of the 70’s are over and Al don’t get it.
And I don’t hit up Craigslist for $2 pills so I can’t cope with it as easy as you.
January 18th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
The 70`s?..well we only one one superbowl in the 70`s,..the 80`s we won 2!…Look Vegas, the media is camping out in Alameda because they feel theres a firing, that the coaching staff is in the toilet,..heads are going to roll,…hey maybe they will, but until then they have a HC,..coaching staff,…looks fine to me, you think I care what the Ray Rattos are saying?…nope.
January 18th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
# BadMoodGuy Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Richochet is a troll.
A Troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community.
BAN THE TROLLS!
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Didn’t I tell you to raise your hand before you speak??
If/when I feel it’s necessary, I’ll grant you permission to interrupt.
Until then, don’t make me tell you again.
I’m serious.
I’ll get Oakglenn over here…hand on hip, serious finger wagging, a few “oh no you don’t” thrown in.
It’s not a pretty sight.
January 18th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
The 70`s?..well we only one one superbowl in the 70`s,..the 80`s we won 2!…Look Vegas, the media is camping out in Alameda because they feel theres a firing, that the coaching staff is in the toilet,..heads are going to roll,…hey maybe they will, but until then they have a HC,..coaching staff,…looks fine to me, you think I care what the Ray Rattos are saying?…nope.
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You miss Ann Killion.
I can tell.
January 18th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Jerry
You do know that I was just messing with you on that first post of the last thread right? It was all in good fun.
January 18th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Norco Bob Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
The 70`s?..well we only one one superbowl in the 70`s,..the 80`s we won 2!…Look Vegas, the media is camping out in Alameda because they feel theres a firing, that the coaching staff is in the toilet,..heads are going to roll,…hey maybe they will, but until then they have a HC,..coaching staff,…looks fine to me, you think I care what the Ray Rattos are saying?…nope.”
Ray Ratto needs to push away from the dinner table a little sooner. He looks like a walking heart attack.
January 18th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Ann Killion
Good one Rico
January 18th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Ann Killion is f`n hot! Love that babe on Chronlive.
January 18th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
I prefer Killian’s Red
January 18th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
# vegas raider Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
“Raiders live chat on Tuesday, with a new twist”
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Is Jerry feeling the corporate pressure from McDonald’s? Needs to drive up his numbers for his chat maybe?
Sounds like he just wants to argue with people.
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Didn’t you run this exact same take two months ago?
January 18th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
We shouldn’t be talking about who the Head Coach will be…we should be talking about who the next G.M. will be.
January 18th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
24,..Iv told you all,..what the F you want a GM for?…you you can say, ‘hey, we finally got a GM!’,…whatever,..even if there was a “GM” here, he still would make all the decisions, decisions that Al Davis ok`s,…so please, stop it with the GM crap.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
What’s up RachoCrap:
I actually have no time at the moment to talk Raider ball. I was just checkin’ in to see if there was any interesting new developments (i.e. Tom Cable gets 10 year contract extension or RachoCrap comes out of the closet and finally admits that he’s really Mike Lombardi.)
Anyways – like I said. . . .gotta run.
Mainly just stopped by to remind you what a pile of crap you are.
We’ll discuss the latter topic further this week, I’m sure.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
The owner will never fire our GM. Our GM is doing just fine by all the owners account.
Also, so relieved to see this:
(honestly, I was worried)
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d815d2c9e&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
January 18th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
At least the Chargers are going right to work. Why wait………..
You hearing this Al?
January 18th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
Anyone see the Vikings demolish the Cowboys on Sunday? Got me to thinking, once upon a time Jim Fassel’s Giants beat down the favored Vikes by an even more lopsided final score … in the NFC Championship game. Remember that before you lump him in with the Kevin Gilbrides and Rob Ryans of the coaching landscape. Fassel had 1 bad season out of 7 in NY. It was his final year and the team was decimated by injuries. The rest of the time they were either winning the NFC East division or at worst competitive in the 7-9 to 9-7 range.
If Cable goes tomorrow, we could do a hell of a lot worse.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Island,..who told you the Raiders arent at work?…what is it you are wanting to hear?
January 18th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
Chargers out.
Norv remains.
Nolan 86ed.
And the division remains ripe for the picking.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
I havent heard anything from anyone that Tom Cables job is in jeapardy. Hes still got 2 more years on his contract.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Love women who know sports, and Ann knows her stuff.
Now, Nancy has a down home kind of girl look, while Ann has that natural beauty to go along with being a sports nut.
Yep
Definitely hot.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
I havent heard anything from anyone that Tom Cables job is in jeapardy. Hes still got 2 more years on his contract.
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he’s the Raiders coach.
Job Jeopardy starts day two.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Norco Bob – We went to 4 Superbowls while having a G.M. Ron Wolf and Bruce Allen played roles on those teams. Those results were better than Al Davis by himself. I would rather see somebody in the office helping Al Davis than to see him try it solo because its obviously not working. Its looking pretty obvious that Al Davis wasn’t responsible for those winning teams.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
What’s up RachoCrap:
I actually have no time at the moment to talk Raider ball. I was just checkin’ in to see if there was any interesting new developments (i.e. Tom Cable gets 10 year contract extension or RachoCrap comes out of the closet and finally admits that he’s really Mike Lombardi.)
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Talk Raider ball?
You made a New Years Resolution to talk Raider ball?
Cool.
Wait.
Are you still going to run the “Al is God and I don’t care what you say, the Fonzie look and satin sweat suits are still in vogue”? thang?
January 18th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
You can call Ron Wolfe and Bruce GM`s if you want,..Al Davis never did.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Hey 24,..out of Ron Wolfe,..Bruce Allen and Al Davis,..which ones i nthe hall of fame?
January 18th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Norco Bob – Al Davis might not have called them G.M.’s but now hes alone and his team is the worst team to ever play in the NFL over a 7 year span. I think Al Davis could use one of those guys right about now.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
Norco Bob – Out of Ron Wolf, Bruce Allen and Al Davis…which one took all the credit?
January 18th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
Thats your opinion 24, I dont agree.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Norco Bob – Its ok that you don’t agree. We don’t have to agree on everything.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Bruce Allen I loved in Oakland, met him a couple times,..doubt he had any real personnel evaluation duties,..great cap guy, Iv heard, and mainly a buffer to keep Gruden and Davis apart and somewhat happy.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
The jets will not beat the colts this week. We all know sandiego is overrated, even tho they beat us twice we pretty much smacked them around this year its just jamarcus couldnt score us points.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Al Davis is in the hall of fame,..believe me the league hated putting him in because hes sueing them, giving them the finger,..they hated letting him in,.but had no choice whatsoever,…he earned his way in, and theres dozens in there that dont belong.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
Norco Bob – Whatever it was that Al Davis and Bruce Allen did together…it worked. Thats all that matters. My main point is…Al Davis needs help, I think its obvious. Al Davis has played a role in the success of the Raiders and hes made his share of good decisions but hes made more poor decisions without help over the last 7 years. I’m sure age also has something to do with that but that just means he needs help more now than ever.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Bruce Allen was awesome when we had a great qb and some future hal lof famers on the team,..not a bunch of inesperienced players.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
HIRING Jim Harbaugh as head coach would mean getting back to PHYSICAL football!
January 18th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
I would be fine with Harbaugh,..however Im fine with Tom Cable too.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
DKnight007 – That may be true but if the team still ended up 5-11 and 6-10 within the 1st 2 years, he would probably be gone or if he wanted to have more say, he would probably be gone…etc.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
Yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if old man Al keeps Cable just to spite the media.
Typical Al Davis….more worried about the media instead of worrying about making the right decisions for the franchise, football team and fans to get this team to be respectable again.
Stupid…
January 18th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
This team needs consistency. I have seen enough good things from Tom Cable and the current staff to give him another year. Hes been a victim of circumstance and if he can get the right QB, this team is a much different team.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
I also like the way John Marshall ran this defense, I thought he did a good job.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
# 24 Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
DKnight007 – That may be true but if the team still ended up 5-11 and 6-10 within the 1st 2 years, he would probably be gone or if he wanted to have more say, he would probably be gone…etc.
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If you hire someone like Harbaugh as head coach and a REAL GM/PERSONNEL GUY…..you gotta keep him for at least 3-4 years before evaluating them.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Knight,..Al Davis couldnt care less about the media,..he wont keep or can Cable due to his feelings of the media,..grow up.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
# 24 Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
This team needs consistency. I have seen enough good things from Tom Cable and the current staff to give him another year. Hes been a victim of circumstance and if he can get the right QB, this team is a much different team.
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Don’t know about the staff though.
IMO…a new RB coach and Special Team coordinator need to be hired.
Lal needs to be heavily evaluated also as the WR coach….he may need to be moved back to quality control.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Knight,..Al Davis couldnt care less about the media,..he wont keep or can Cable due to his feelings of the media,..grow up.
^^^^^^^^^
I think Al Davis is the one who needs to grow up…and stop acting like a delusional old jacka$$.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
# Chris in NY Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
Chargers out.
Norv remains.
Nolan 86ed.
And the division remains ripe for the picking.
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Yep and old man Al will probably blow it…..again. The Dis-Chargers Chokers window is closed IMO.
I would love to be proven wrong…..but with the way the last 7 years have gone. I’m betting against the the old man to make the right moves.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Knight, hes an old man not wanting to let go,..its his team bud, not yours, not mine, not Trasks, not Ottos,..its his,..he will run it his way,…I think the crybabies in here, the ones who hate the guy, should maybe back away fromt he team for a while,..until hes gone.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
DKnight007 – Cable needs a play caller because hes doing too much and hes not a great play caller to begin with. I’d love to have a play caller like Marc Trestman again to go along with the current staff. I agree that Lal should be replaced. I don’t think theres anything wrong with the RB coach, theres just something wrong with McFadden and Fargas. Bush has tearing it up if someone would just stick with him. We definitely need another Special Teams coach…thats true. With a few pieces, this team is improved.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
What is it that you guy’s want to hear, as Norco Bob says we have everything we had before all the hubbub until there is news why stress? You guy’s are ridiculous this is all created by the media until Cable is fired he’s the coach……….period
If we didn’t have a coach then i could see all the anticipation but this is crazy. Wait until you hear something from the organization. Until then do whatever it is you do but relax this madness.
You’re only hurting yourself man ………chill get readcy to see what kind of talent is available in the draft.
January 18th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
The offensive line was pretty good when Cable was the Line coach. If he can spend more time focusing on them, it could get better. Add a couple of offensive lineman as well and that will help. Maybe we finally focus on the offensive and defensive lines during the next draft?
January 18th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Hey 24,..out of Ron Wolfe,..Bruce Allen and Al Davis,..which ones i nthe hall of fame?
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Which of the three is currently in the Hall of Shame?
January 18th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
# 24 Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
DKnight007 – Cable needs a play caller because hes doing too much and hes not a great play caller to begin with. I’d love to have a play caller like Marc Trestman again to go along with the current staff. I agree that Lal should be replaced. I don’t think theres anything wrong with the RB coach, theres just something wrong with McFadden and Fargas. Bush has tearing it up if someone would just stick with him. We definitely need another Special Teams coach…thats true. With a few pieces, this team is improved.
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If cable stays it’s obvious he will hire an OC/Play caller. Just gotta hope he picks the right play caller.
Trestman would be a good OC or the QB coach from the Pack Tom Clements.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
Goodnight Everyone!
January 18th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Knight, hes an old man not wanting to let go,..its his team bud, not yours, not mine, not Trasks, not Ottos,..its his,..he will run it his way,…I think the crybabies in here, the ones who hate the guy, should maybe back away fromt he team for a while,..until hes gone.
^^^^^^^^^
It’s tough to see the old man ruin this once proud organization when it would be so easy to fix it.
But the old man doesn’t see that way.
Pathetic….
January 18th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
it’s the offseason, TJ.
It’s the Raiders, TJ.
It’s Al Davis, TJ.
It’s Cable, who had about as tumultuous a tenure as you could possibly have, TJ.
Ok…instead why don’t we discuss the over/under on what weight JR comes in at?
No? Another touchy subject?
January 18th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Knight,..you say the team is ruined, I disagree.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Plus Mr Davis knows what help he needs and he will decide when and if he does it. I hate to break it to you guy’s but nothing will change that not billboards nor fans writing letters and making a fuss.
So understand it is what it is if you want to be a fan then do it, if not move on………period
January 18th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
I like Cable as our HC,..and I hope Russell grows up some i nthe next 6 months and gives a damn,..onethings for sure, Russell will be starting in Oakland in 2010,…lets all hope he spends less time with his posse, and more time in Alameda.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
TJ,..call Gary in the morning, tell him he sucked on Chronlive tonight,..big time,..yes you can call again, I hooked it up.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
Bob, Russell will be better off than a lot of the knuckle heads in here will be. He’s already making strides and wants it bad wether you guy’s believe it or like it or not.
Make as much fun of him as you can but the bottom line is that kid has more talent than 80% of the QB’s in this league he just needs time and reps and experience. That opinion is consistent throughout the organization the media fans can scream all they want Russell will be a Raider unless he really screws it up off the field. That IMO is and has been his nly problem if he can control that (partying and friends) the rest will take care of itself.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
The 80yr old GM who got the Raiders into a 29-83, is not the 81yr has been to get the Raiders out!
January 18th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
Norco Bob Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Island,..who told you the Raiders arent at work?…what is it you are wanting to hear?
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What would be nice would be,
Raider owner Al Davis hires competent GM as his abilities to run the organization have diminished.
Tom Cable immediately begins to work towards the 2010 season, beginning with the hiring of a competent play caller.
The new gm and cable (or new hc) are at the senior bowl.
Raiders cut their losses and release draft busts.
Exorcisms are performed for three days in a row to remove any remaining curses and evil spirits caused by ruthless management over past twenty years.
Those sort of things.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Norco and other Al Davis worshippers,
Why don’t you stop the pill poppin, drug use, alcohol abuse and whatever else u have going on and sober up and stop accepting the status quo of the Raiders LOSING ways the last 7 years and be a champ for change….so this franchise and team can be respectable again.
How is that bud?
January 18th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
I dont worship anyone,..not God, Jesus, and certainly not Al Davis.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
Knight, Oldkell is with us again, you two bitter jealous guys can have a nice convo.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
hey priest i saw your post last night about a wr u thought could help out now that might be available in the mid rounds. the guy i like more than anyone in this draft even including last years is d briscoe of kansas. that damian williams from usc is really good too. this is why that damn dhb pick was too much of a reach. its better wrs than him comin out this year.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Knight, you can cry, whine, be mad about the Raiders all you want, wont do any good, so might as well relax.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
See the problem with crybabies like Oldkell, his life as a Raiders fan began 7 years ago, nothing mattered before that,…if you want to be a crybaby like jealous bitter Oldkell, thats your choice.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Omg, the Sharks almost beat L.A,…9-1! dayum!
January 18th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
AL DAVIS needs to be exorcised of the LOSING demons that possess him.
Don’t know if those demons are Trask, Herrera, Kingdon, Taylor, or Birren…..LOL
January 18th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Knight, you can cry, whine, be mad about the Raiders all you want, wont do any good, so might as well relax.
^^^^^^^^^
Nah…I’m not cryin….I just call out bull crap when I see it….
What’s been going on the last 7 years with this franchise and team is unacceptable bull crap.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
Tj/Armond: Help me out here…….
Don’t tell me how horrible the o-line is or the messed hc/play caller or butter finger wr’s are, but what do you see in jr besides a strong right arm? I am a firm believer in talent and brains, and I don’t see that jr possesses both. You tell me. Shed me some light, tell me something I don’t see. List me the plus/plusses…
January 18th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
Unacceptable?…you dont have to accept it,..go support a team that you agree with how their ownership runs things,…and yes you do cry alot in here,..not as much as bitter Oldkell, but ya, you really do whine alot in here.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
I agree that JR has little talent and brains,..but he will be your starter in 2010, so you might want to not pay attention next season if you cant handle that.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
I like Cable as our HC,..
RICHOCHET: I’ve asked one question no one has answered..’WHAT HAS CABLE DONE RIGHT THIS YEAR?”
YOU won’t answer it either.
Because you can’t.
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onethings for sure, Russell will be starting in Oakland in 2010,…
RICHOCHET: Put down the bong. Russell wasn’t just benched, he was benched with Al’s permission. Not for a game..FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON.
That message from Al, loud and clear is, YOU’RE SCREWING UP.
JR embarrassed Al, especially after Al’s “OverheadProjectorGate”..
JR has to win the position in training camp, or his big mongo-ass is riding the pine…bank on it.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Playoff Appearances by Team in the 20 years since Free Agency in 1989.
Pittsburgh 13
Philadelphia 12
Minnesota 11
San Francisco 11
Tennessee 11
Green Bay 11
Indianapolis 11
Dallas 11
New England 10
New York Giants 10
Denver 10
Miami 10
Kansas City 9
Buffalo 9
San Diego 7
Tampa Bay 7
Oakland 6
Seattle 6
New York Jets 6
St Louis 6
Chicago 6
Atlanta 6
Detroit 6
Washington 6
New Orleans 5
Cleveland 3
Arizona 2
Cincinnati 1
January 18th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Norco Bob, please man let that Gary crap go please I’m not interested and until I am I’m not calling anyone……….period
I come here to talk about my favorite team not some talkshow host that I don’t even listen to.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
KK, can you post that 100 more times before 12m you retard.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
Priest,you can talk until you turn blue,but until i see Russell act like he wants it,i won’t believe it.Blowing off the final meetings to go to Vegas didn’t show he was turning the corner.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Oldkell,..you still cant seem to get over it can you,..and being such an old man, cutting and pasting, not a original thought in that 60 year old head,..such a sad old man.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
Oldkell, it must be tiring, being an old man, old fool, so jealous of al davis, hes accomplished so much, and you havent done a thing,..he doesnt even know you exist,…oldkell, you keep reminding us what a jealous old man you are,…sad.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
Unacceptable?…you dont have to accept it,..go support a team that you agree with how their ownership runs things,…and yes you do cry alot in here,..not as much as bitter Oldkell, but ya, you really do whine alot in here.
^^^^^^^^^^
I do support them…..from my TV at my house when they are not blacked out or on the radio. I only go to 1 or 2 games a year for the last 3 years because I refuse to pay money to Al Davis and his crappy decisions when he tries to sell the me and the rest of Nation of crappy product.
I used to be a season ticket holder from 1996-2002.
I hit it at the right time. I got the heck outta there when they tried to double my season tickets right after the Super Bowl year. I knew without Gruden the team was doomed….and guess what happened.
Sober up Norco….it’s stopping from you from thinking clearly and seeing the reality of the situation.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
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January 18th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Usually its about this time, when you are in one of your dark, depressed nights, that you make sure to inform us where you work, vacation,…do you feel a little less jealous of al davis after that?
January 18th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Knight, I go to every game, and have a blast!
January 18th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Is that wack job still mumbling to himself? How hilarious. He has posted 200 times today and not one poster has answered him. Yet he still thinks he matters. Talk about delusional.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
Oldkell, do you spend your sad days, googling stats from websites, trying desperately to post about al davis?…instead of havign a productive day, do you hammer away on google, in hopes the next Forbes stat will pull you out of your depression?
January 18th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
Regarding post #96 who cares? Are you a share holder in that organization? Then why would you care? If you don’t like the way that owner runs his business don’t patronize the business. But sitting on an internet blog and posting stupid stuff makes YOU look wack. Just Like the other wack job.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
Oldkell, I cant wait all night for your next unoriginal googled list,…Oldkell, someday maybe you will get over your jealousy of al davis, but Im betting you wont,..goodnight.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
Ya, and Oldkell is almost 60 years old,…sad.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Lefty12, you’re a smart knowledgable Raider fan but you are blind when it comes to this kid. You look at his demeanor and think that tells you something and read all the crap Cable says and think that tells you something and then you nitpick everything the kid does as if it means something.
He’sjust like any other struggling young QB or any othe rplayer in this league with a lot to learn same as Nnamdi and Huff. Some players take time to learn their craft more than others he has a lot of growing up to do hopefully he will. But this crap about him not caring is so far out of the blue it’s not even funny. So you can believe whatever you wish but that kid did not blow off those meetings he had them and he left based on the organization excusing him. That’s what I was tld and the media made a huge stinking deal about it and those that hate the kid ate it up. So did you.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
Al Davis, Amy Trask, John Herrera, Mike Taylor, Jon Kingdon, and Birren……ALL SUCK!! LOL
January 18th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/117194-nfls-least-valuable-franchise-is?cnn=yes
Forbes magazine, famous for its rich lists, just came out with its evaluations of the 32 NFL teams. No surprise, Jerry Jones’ Dallas Cowboys tops the list with a current value of $1.65 billion. Only two NFL teams are unprofitable: the Seattle Seahawks, who lost $2.4 million, and the biggest loser of them all, the Oakland Raiders. Al Davis’ once wondrous franchise is now the least valuable NFL club at a “mere” $797 million, plus the Raiders had the biggest operating loss in the league at $5.7 million.
Los Angeles Times
January 18th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
Ya, and Oldkell is almost 60 years old,…sad.
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Holy Moly! Wack job #1 mumbles incoherently to himself all day about nothing while thinking he is important and commanding. The reality is he is wack and pathetic.
As far as Wack Job #2, To be that invested in Al Davis wack job #2 must have had his favorite pet bunny run over by Al’s limousine forty years ago and has still not gotten over it. There is no other rational explanation.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
lets throw something different out there.most people always talk about the needs for Tackles.to me,Olines should be built from the inside out.when you get great centers and have an exceptional LG you are on your way to building your line.Look at McKenzie in Minn. and Fergason in NY.When Hutchinson left Seattle for Minn.,Jones got worse,McKenzie got better.When we had Wiz at LG,Simms was acceptable at LT.When Wiz retired,Simms became below avg.Fergason became very good after the Jets signed Fanica(?).Henderson got worse when Gallery went down.WE need a better Center and a better RG.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
Can’t argue with #109. Good post.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
The 80yr old GM produces this:
09′ 5-11
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-12
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-12
5 Head Coaches, 8 Starting QB’s.
1 General Manager, Al Davis.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
The Raiders offense took a serious turn for the worse the second Rob Gallery went out. What most posters don’t realize is Gallery went out early in preseason, went out again early in the season, came back right about the same time Jamarcus got benched, and then went out again at the end of the season. Every time Gallery went out, the Raiders offense took a nose dive.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
The 80yr old GM produces this:
09′ 5-11
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-12
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-12
5 Head Coaches,
8 Starting QB’s.
1 General Manager, Al Davis.
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Do you really expect the same GM to undo what’s he’s done?
January 18th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
Until Cable excepts the fact that he needs more physical types and more talented types then this line will suffer and his QB’s will go down because of it.
He never should’ve cut Paul McQ and the young OG Marcus Johnson. He should’ve drafted an Olineman. He did nothing to biuld that line and as a result QB’s got beaten and battered. He thinks he can take a tomato can make him a lineman. His approach to the Oline pisses me off more than anything plus the fact that he wont run Bush.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
Priest,i hope he pans out,hell,he is a Raider.He has the owners support.But i need to see it,and so far i haven’t seem anything you could call positive.I heard Nnamdi say yesterday hat HE has to work harder during the off season and during the season.I know i won’t read anything positive about him so all i can do is judge by what i see.if he shows up to minis in better shape that would be a good start-something positive.We shall see.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Good job KK only 96 more to go….
January 18th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
5 Head Coaches,
8 Starting QB’s.
1 General Manager, Al Davis.
1 wack job posting the same stuff over and over.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
# priesttj Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Plus Mr Davis knows what help he needs and he will decide when and if he does it.
RICHOCHET: See..this is why you get laughed at. Al knows what he wants? REALLY? Oh..you mean like ‘I want Kwame”? That KNOWS what he wants? Or 55 million to Javon? THAT knows what he wants? How about Hall? What was that? 70 mil contract? Paid him 8 mil for 8 games then released him? THAT KNOWS WHAT HE WANTS??
Al doesn’t have a clue..and hasn’t for two decades.
YOU don’t have a clue, and obviously you never did.
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I hate to break it to you guy’s but nothing will change that not billboards nor fans writing letters and making a fuss.
RICHOCHET: Wrong. Just because you’re dumber than cotton (yes, I heard you speak..again, you made JR sound like a debate champion)doesn’t mean you should abuse the right to be dumb. Al has made it clear he DOES listen, he does pay attention. that it DOES bother him his legacy is being challenged. Guess you miss the PC where he spends an hour trying to defend all of the moves EVERYONE QUESTIONS HIM ABOUT. If he DOESN’T PAY ATTENTION, then why is he addressing it?
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So understand it is what it is if you want to be a fan then do it, if not move on………period
Richochet: Oh..wait..what you’re saying is be a flea? A lemming? A spineless worm and just accept it because YOU THINK YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO? And that if everyone isn’t a meek follower, such as yourself, we should “move on’??
I missed the memo where it said “Leave your balls at the door”.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
wiggety wiggety wack job is back!
January 18th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
Lets hope we concentrate on the Oline this off season.Maybe Langston can become a good RG.We definitely need a better Center.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
Lowest attendance in the league.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
# priesttj Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
Until Cable excepts the fact that he needs more physical types and more talented types then this line will suffer and his QB’s will go down because of it.
He never should’ve cut Paul McQ and the young OG Marcus Johnson. He should’ve drafted an Olineman. He did nothing to biuld that line and as a result QB’s got beaten and battered. He thinks he can take a tomato can make him a lineman. His approach to the Oline pisses me off more than anything plus the fact that he wont run Bush.
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Oh stop..now you’re just embarrassing yourself.
Cable doesn’t/CAN’T CUT ANYONE..Al went public with that very fact.
Al drafted a RB when the team needed o lineman, moron.
Al also drafted a bust WR, allowing the best WR in the draft to go across the bay.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
The tackle play was subpar. The center play was subpar. The guard play minus Gallery was subpar. The entire Offensive line, minus Rob Gallery (if he comes back 100%) needs to be redone.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
2nd least valuable franchise in the league.
Lowest attendance in the league.
Most blackouts in the league.
League record 7 straight double-digit losing seasons.
Anything else?……
January 18th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
wigggety wack job just mumbles to himself. No one cares. No one listens, no one reads it. But wiggety wack job thinks he’s important. This is hilarious.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
To be honest,it wouldn’t bother me if we spent the whole draft on nothing but O Lineman-and maybe a MLB.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
# KoolKell Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
2nd least valuable franchise in the league.
Lowest attendance in the league.
Most blackouts in the league.
League record 7 straight double-digit losing seasons.
Anything else?……
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A different wack job stating the obvious like it’s the Magna Carta. Priceless.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
We can only hope langston has grownup and is ready to fulfill his potential. Satele is very young and could get much better but we desparately need a RT and depth alng the line. Instead of this crap Cable keeps bringing in.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
Al Davis in his later years:
____________________________
2nd least valuable franchise in the league.
Lowest attendance in the league.
Most blackouts in the league.
League record 7 straight double-digit losing seasons.
Anything else?……
January 18th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
Lefty12, The good news is we have two third rounders, so we should be able to get 4 pretty good players in April. One good Olineman, one good dlineman, one good ILB, and one good either corner or QB might not be a bad way to go thru the lst three rounds. Then load up on more linemen later.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
Al Davis, Godfather in his later years:
____________________________
2nd least valuable franchise in the league.
Lowest attendance in the league.
Most blackouts in the league.
League record 7 straight double-digit losing seasons.
Anything else?……
January 18th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
I hate the fact that we threw away very good Olineman for Carlisle and Green and Harris. We had young very talented Online man in Kevin Boothe and Paul McQ and Jake Grove. Cable got rid of all of them and they’re starting for some great running teams.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
Didn’t that wack job post the exact same thing three times in four minutes?? Man, that’s compulsive psychotic behavior by definition.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
# priesttj Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
We can only hope langston has grownup and is ready to fulfill his potential. Satele is very young and could get much better but we desparately need a RT and depth alng the line. Instead of this crap Cable keeps bringing in.
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Satele was let go because he was weak.
Raiders center replaced him, and the Raiders ended up with Satale, which was ignorant.
And why play the moron? No one on the planet believes Cable brings in ANYONE..not the players, and not the assts.
he’s a token..much like you.
Love reaming your sorryass, Priest, knowing you aren’t allowed to borrow someone’s balls
January 18th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
Cable got rid of them because they were not system fits, not because they were bad players. See, that’s the problem with getting rid of coaches. Firing Cable would mean someone would come in here and start paring the changing the roster AGAIN. Meaning we have AT LEAST another two year rebuilding.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
Langston reminds me of L.Kennedy,although he wasn’t as highly thought of as Kennedy was coming out of college.Kennedy was thought of as a bust and Walker washed out in Buffalo.We gave Kennedy his last chance,now the same with Walker.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
GM, Top Personnel Man. Can’t walk or travel.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
I remember when the Cardinals were the laughingstock of the league.
Worst owner.
Worst fans.
Worst stadium.
Worst city.
Worst attendance.
Now Oakland owns all of those.
How times have changed.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
The only thing that’s keeping me going in following these Raiders is the fluke (?) find of Jon Gruden and Bruce Allen end of last century. I figure if old man davis did it once maybe he can do it again before he croaks.
which btw even after he checks out the team’ll probably be in perpetual re-building mode and it won’t put itself together for who knows how long after that.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
GM, Top Personnel Man. Can’t walk or travel, AND:
The 80yr old GM produces this:
09′ 5-11
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-12
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-12
5 Head Coaches,
8 Starting QB’s.
1 General Manager, Al Davis.
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January 18th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
I believe the biggest problem Mr Davis has with Cable is the Oline and the lack of a running game. If he doesn’t feel Cable can fix that pronto I don’t think he’ll be back. In the preseason he tried to convince him to go to a more power running attack instead of this finess crap and he refused and the problem with that is that was a huge factor in the teams demise.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
Grove ended the year on IR again,no great lose as far as i see it.Satele took longer than expected to learn the system-not a good sign at that position.However,he is young and could add some weight and strength.I’d like to add,i hate the way he bobs his head before every snap.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
Priesttj Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
I believe the biggest problem Mr Davis has with Cable is the Oline and the lack of a running game.
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Bullshyt, if Davis wanted a running game, they wouldn’t have focused on the passing game all year.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
The offensive line was in a state of flux all season. Once Gallery went down the leadership of the line went with him. Everyone else was basically C+ to C-. Not awful, not good. We need better if we are going to institute a big run, deep passing game. In order to run that offense you have to have the premier offensive line in the league. (See Raiders, Oakland 1968-1978)
January 18th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
With a young QB and 2 rookie WR’s, if Davis wanted to emphasize the running game they would have.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
Lefty12, I agree on langston the kid has a ton of potential we tried him at OT but he would be good at OG. If this kid out of Rutgers Davis comes out or the kid from Iowa Bulgara thse are two we can get that would be instant starters.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
priest look at the players al gave tom to work with. Instead of taking michael oher or eugene monroe al took dhb. Then he leaves cable with green an aging carlisle oft injured gallery and a new to the system satele… Im sorry but no coach would be successful with this line, its bout time al gave tom some real talent to work with.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:33 pm
Richochet Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
I remember when the Cardinals were the laughingstock of the league.
Worst owner.
Worst fans.
Worst stadium.
Worst city.
Worst attendance.
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Now they are the preeminent team in the NFC West. A position the Whiners held for almost twenty years. Times have changed.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:33 pm
Isn’t that what everyone complains about,that Cable tried to run a power running game with McFadden and Fargas?I know you don’t agree,but I believe there is a reason Bush wasn’t used more and that reason wasn’t Cable.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
Lefty12, great observations but if he can’t prove that he can get that fixed he wont last much longer. That is a must…………period
January 18th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
3 winning seasons in th last 15 years.
Now at age 81, he’s going to change that???????? Really?
January 18th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
Maybe the only way to get it fixed is to get a better RB and LET Bush have a bigger work load.While McFadden has talent,to me he has shown he is more like R.Bush than a workload RB.I’m still waiting for those 4-5 yd runs Fargas gets to be turned into 75yd TDs like some predicted at draft time.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
Lefty12, we do not run a p[ower running game and you should know that we run a ZBS everyone knows that. A power running game is very different and we use small finess type blockers it’s not physical at all.
This stuff about Mr Davis telling Cable who to play is your assumption, fine with me but it don’t make it true. Cable changed the entire blcking scheme when he came here and everyone knows that.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
Lefty12, you and me both man but to his credit he hasn’t complained at all about the way we use him. He could be an outstanding weapon in the passing game. If we used that kid the way Percy Harvin is used he would flourish I said that before we ever drafted him. He can be used in the backfeld as a runner and reciever but not as a feature back. Bush is the only real feature back this team really has.
January 18th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
i agree about the scheme.I don’t know about Bush but I do believe for some reason he is purposely being held out.Could be him-attitude,out of shape,etc.-or there could be another reason we don’t know about.I just find it hard to believe a HC who keeps his job by winning would keep what seems to be his best RB on the bench because he doesn’t like him(personally not as a player).
January 18th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
Lefty12, it happens all the time when coaches don’t believ in a player MBush has shown that he can carry this team but the coach just thinks he can do otherwise. Coaches can be very stubborn about there systems and how they want to emplement them. This coach not only didn’t use Bush right he also screwed up the passing game. Forcing it on these young players before they were ready to execute it.
January 19th, 2010 at 12:00 am
# Seymour Bush Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 11:33 pm
Richochet Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
I remember when the Cardinals were the laughingstock of the league.
Worst owner.
Worst fans.
Worst stadium.
Worst city.
Worst attendance.
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Now they are the preeminent team in the NFC West. A position the Whiners held for almost twenty years. Times have changed.
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Yeah, mental midget..Niners were a powerhouse for a longer period of time than any other team in the league..ever.
Leave it to your sorryass to miss the point.
That position of being the worst owner goes to Al Davis.
Position of worst fans goes to Raider fans.
Position of worst attendance for the LAST 15 YEARS goes to…yes..the Raiders.
All of the ugliness associated with the Raiders (except for the city..that sty was a pit seemingly forever) is on Al Davis.
Add to that it’s the team where careers either go to die, or are put on serious hold until the player gets out.
Add to it it has the most UNDESIRABLE head coaching job of any team, in any sport.
And the topper? No team in the NFL has more former players completely ripping on the team FROM THE OWNER ON DOWN, THAN THE RAIDERS.
It’s simply, as Gannon put it, “a completely dysfunctional team, from top to bottom”.
January 19th, 2010 at 12:04 am
McFaddens problem is it seems he rushes and doesn’t allow the blocking to set up where he should go.He is always running up his blockers backs instead of reading where the hole will be.At least it seems he works hard and is willing to do what he is asked,unlike Bush-and that is why i believe he isn’t being given a bigger role.
January 19th, 2010 at 12:13 am
Bush does exactly what he is asked Lefty12 and does it better than most now he may not be in the best of shappe but he is a top notch talent. Not using him wisely is how you lose. DMC has no moves it’s what I said before we drafted him and he goes down too easy.
That doesn’t mean he’s not talented but he is exactly what I said he would be a untility player. The offense could’ve operated well enough to win if Cable would’ve taken stck of the talent and used it wisely. The Jets the Ravens and the Falcons used their talent wisely we didn’t it’s just that simple.
January 19th, 2010 at 12:22 am
We both agree Bush should be used more.We disagree on why he isn’t.
Oakland Raiders run was from 1966-1985-last SB title 1983-lost next 2 yrs in playoffs.
49er run was from 1981-1998-last SB title 1995-lost next 3 yrs in playoffs.
January 19th, 2010 at 12:24 am
should read-Oakland/LA Raiders
January 19th, 2010 at 12:33 am
Lefty12, it’s OK with me man you’re still very cool bro. I just think you except too much of the media crap as fact. Coaches and players don’t say things for nothing RobO for what to be told what to do? Why does cable ant to keep his job? To be told what to do with every player? come on Lefty12 you’re much smarter than that.
January 19th, 2010 at 12:37 am
lefty12 Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 12:04 am
McFaddens problem is it seems he rushes and doesn’t allow the blocking to set up where he should go.He is always running up his blockers backs instead of reading where the hole will be.At least it seems he works hard and is willing to do what he is asked,unlike Bush-and that is why i believe he isn’t being given a bigger role.
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TRUE Lefty Dmac has no patience, ray rice has it, frank gore has it, and even mike bush has it. Thats the ony thing hoding dmac back… he doesn’t et the hoe develop.
January 19th, 2010 at 12:43 am
The reasons he wants to keep his job are many-he actually likes the team,there are only 32 HC jobs and he has 1,he makes a damn good salary,and others.I weigh what the media says with what i see and with what i read the players say,then i form my opinions-i don’t take what writers write as gospel because i understand they too have agendas.However,if it turns out everyone says the same things,i have to believe there is some truth to what they are saying.
January 19th, 2010 at 12:51 am
Lefty12, right on brother that’s exactly how I do it. I just happen to listen to what the coaches have all said a bout Mr Davis and NONE of them have ever said he made them play someone they didn’t think was capable of playing or stopped them from playing a player they wanted to. Now if you have proof otherwise I’ll listen.
January 19th, 2010 at 12:54 am
Priest,one of the reasons i believe Cable should be retained is he can work with Davis,which like it or not, a HC of this team must do.I also believe they talk or meet weekly- a prerequisite for being the HC.When they meet i am sure players are discussed-that is how Cable eventually got Russell benched.If Davis really felt that Bush should play more,i am pretty sure he would have said so in one of their meetings.And if he had suggested it,i am just as sure the HC would have followed his request.
January 19th, 2010 at 12:55 am
How about Marcus Allen?
January 19th, 2010 at 1:00 am
I wish this becomes our draft:
http://www.draftsite.com/nfl/2010mock.htm
January 19th, 2010 at 1:01 am
Marcus Allen is a player who believes as wishes but I’ve never heard Art Shell say Mr Davis wouldn’t let him play him. In fact Art debunked much of what Marcus believes now I don’t disagree with what Marcus believes but who really knows what happened only Art and mR Davis really know.
January 19th, 2010 at 1:12 am
It could be that Davis hasn’t ordered Bush benched,but just maybe Cable believes that is what he wants.Or maybe during their discussions it was insinuated McFadden and Fargas(for being the ultimate team player) be the main backs when they were healthy.It could be any number of things,but i don’t believe it is because Cable doesn’t like him.
January 19th, 2010 at 1:14 am
Well Lefty12, Cable even said in PC that the power game that Mr Davis was speakinhg of was more than the use of Michael Bush he said it as clear as day. You’ll hear Mr Davis say it in just a few weeks that he wanted to see more MBush. You’ll hear it yourself.
January 19th, 2010 at 1:14 am
Its late-later Priest.
January 19th, 2010 at 1:21 am
Before i go,i must say that i do believe what happened last year plays into the equation.If that is why Cable didn’t want to play him and he sold it that way to Davis,i could see that being the case-especially with Cable trying to install the “we” attitude instead of the “me” attitude.
January 19th, 2010 at 1:25 am
Adios my friend.
January 19th, 2010 at 2:48 am
WOW – this is GREAT news! Denver’s D-Coordinator left after wreaking havoc this year. The Offensive was very mediocre but their “D” was damned good!
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/18/denver-enters-the-defensive-coordinator-derby/
January 19th, 2010 at 2:58 am
504, Brandon Spikes is there in the 2nd RD!! Switch up Tebow for Spikes…now thats a good draft!
January 19th, 2010 at 4:23 am
KoolKell Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
Al Davis in his later years:
____________________________
2nd least valuable franchise in the league.
Lowest attendance in the league.
Most blackouts in the league.
League record 7 straight double-digit losing seasons.
Anything else?……
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Yea, you forgot 1 thing. The 3 most annoying bloggers in the league:
koolkell
richochet
mr
January 19th, 2010 at 4:24 am
i think Micah Johnson is better than Spikes…
although Spikes clearly has the best name…
January 19th, 2010 at 4:28 am
http://www.coachmarctrestman.com/
trestman’s site… interesting apparel…
is it a message to Al ???
January 19th, 2010 at 4:31 am
Marc Trestman’s site, under the category: PHILOSOPHY
I am very fortunate to have worked for and with some of the great head coaches and assistant coaches of our time. It is through their mentoring, associations, and friendship that I have been able to formulate a philosophy for success on and off the field:
- Marc Trestman –
To be hard working, humble, and disciplined on and off the field, with a common respect for everyone in the program, our opponents, and the game of football.
To be a resource to each and every player in developing their football skills and character to the highest level possible, and at the same time have them internalize that everyone associated with the “team” (organization) are entirely “interconnected” with the other.
To communicate to everyone that they are “accountable” to the whole. That the success of the team is directly related to their individual commitment and effort.
To clearly define the role and responsibility of each and every member of the organization.
To put into place a system of football that is flexible to the existing talent and personnel.
To produce highly efficient play at each and every position to win games on a weekly basis.
January 19th, 2010 at 4:58 am
Good Morning NATION!!!!
January 19th, 2010 at 5:56 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Wow, 4eva…no one posted anything for an hour?
January 19th, 2010 at 5:59 am
SAN DIEGO (AP) Chargers wide receiver Vincent Jackson was handcuffed briefly and had his car impounded following a traffic stop on Sunday just a few hours before a playoff loss to the New York Jets, police said.
Det. Gary Hassen said Monday that a traffic officer pulled over Jackson for playing loud music. The player was cited for driving with a suspended license and expired tags. Jackson was briefly handcuffed, which Hassen said is part of standard procedure in such situations.
Jackson has been arrested twice for suspicion of driving under the influence since joining the Chargers. He pleaded guilty in a 2006 case and was on probation when he was arrested again last January. That case has been delayed several times.
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this just keeps getting better & better. LOL!
January 19th, 2010 at 6:02 am
Dolphins are going after DC Mike Nolan.
Donks are going after DC Dean Pees…
January 19th, 2010 at 6:03 am
I though that Pees retired? Oh well…
January 19th, 2010 at 6:04 am
49ers hired Kurt Schottenheimer as ST coach.
Marty’s 60 year old brother.
January 19th, 2010 at 6:07 am
I though that Pees retired? Oh well…
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His contract was set to expire following the 2009 season.Pees chose not to return to the team on January 14, 2010, and said he was considering retirement
key word there “considering”. Maybe he’s considering retirement like Brett Favre or Junior Seau? LOL
January 19th, 2010 at 6:09 am
Pats were division champs 3 out of 4 years with Pees as DC. the season they didn’t finish on top they still had 11 wins under Cassel.
yikes!
January 19th, 2010 at 6:10 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, COULD U C PHILLIP RIVERS GETTING PULLED OVER IN OAKLAND.CAN U SAY “RUBBER-HOSE”
January 19th, 2010 at 6:11 am
I know huh? That’s funny that the 9ers hired Marty’s 60 year old brother….and tell me something. 2006 the Raiders went to SF to play the 9ers because 2002 they came to Oak Town. Why are the Raiders going there again this year? Its out of rotation, don’t you think?
January 19th, 2010 at 6:11 am
Tom Cable couldn’t guard my dog house. At least I know Russell has skills. I don’t think Cable will be back.
-Warren Sapp
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JR has skills? where? at the buffet?
because Raider fans sure haven’t seen them translate to the football field!
January 19th, 2010 at 6:13 am
…and of course, Sapp KNOWS what he is talking about…haha!
January 19th, 2010 at 6:14 am
Here’s a sheer speculation possibility for Cable should the ax fall _ offensive line coach of the Washington Redskins.
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trade Tom Cable & Javon Walker for Santana Moss!
January 19th, 2010 at 6:16 am
Well, Marshall had an ok 1st year considering.Year 2 lets hope the players are more in tune….Like the coaches have been saying and I agree with them: its a matter of the players executing,not the plays being called.In year 2 of the Marshall Plan,players “should” be able to execute,imo
By all means KEEP Marshall,imo
January 19th, 2010 at 6:17 am
trade Russell & Fargas for London Fletcher.
who cares if he’s 34 years old? he can play!
January 19th, 2010 at 6:17 am
Hwnrdr,I see that A quite board 4 an hour!….
As the Board Rest’s lol!
January 19th, 2010 at 6:19 am
I agree 4eva. I like the Marshall Plan
we have to upgrade personnel along the front seven on D though. Warren, Kelly & Morrison (at MLB) aren’t getting the job done
Cut Warren. Force Kelly to take a paycut. Move Kirk outside
January 19th, 2010 at 6:20 am
trade Cable to the Skins for a hunk of rat cheese!
January 19th, 2010 at 6:20 am
Good morning all.
January 19th, 2010 at 6:22 am
Yup, we need a true MLB this coming year!!!
Marshall has shown to mix it up a bit. Year 2 I have higher expectations…if we make those changes, Rockstar!!!
January 19th, 2010 at 6:22 am
Rockstar….
When Grads came in,the oposing D’s wouldnt stack.Fargas was getting 10 yards on 1st down pitches.I think his contract is up.I sure hope they resign him.
January 19th, 2010 at 6:27 am
4eva: last year Fargas took less money in exchange for more years on his deal. he restructured as he always does. Robert Gallery too
neither of them are FA’s this year. Fargas didn’t want to hit free agency. He wanted to be a Raider and I respect that. just don’t think he should start ahead of Bush or McFadden – thats all
January 19th, 2010 at 6:28 am
504 Raider Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 1:00 am
I wish this becomes our draft:
http://www.draftsite.com/nfl/2010mock.htm
January 19th, 2010 at 6:29 am
If we were 2 take McCluster,I wonder if Dmac will finally produce?
January 19th, 2010 at 6:30 am
Hwnrdr: any FA MLB’s you know of?
January 19th, 2010 at 6:30 am
Thankx 4 the info Rockstar….I wasnt sure about your boy Fargas =)
January 19th, 2010 at 6:34 am
4eva…
You want to use a 4 rd pick on another RB ? Plus we’ll not draft a QB – that would mean that Al admits JaMarcus was the wrong pick.
January 19th, 2010 at 6:35 am
Rockstar: Not off the top of my head, no. I don’t even know if there would be one in the draft (not that we would take that guy anyways unless he ran a heck of fast 40)…
January 19th, 2010 at 6:38 am
here is the problem with Darren McFadden (IMO)
1. Luke Lawton, Gary Russell, Samson Satele, Chris Morris, Cooper Carlisle, Cornell Green, Erik Pears, etc. – is that even considered BLOCKING? most of these clowns would have a hard time cracking another 53 man roster, much less starting!
2. Cable’s playcalling and personnel choices. DMC has proved that if you give him at least 15 carries a game he will get the job done. Same with Mike Bush. Both are great pass catchers as well
3. Darren’s Durability. this is the most concerning to me because if he turns up injury prone (like Justin) we are in serious trouble. I thought when we drafted him that he had skinny legs. I wondered if he could be a between the tackle type of runner. move the pile on occasion. stiff arm a LB or SS and keep going full speed.
A “RB by committee” approach is only good if you have a HC or play caller that believes in it. otherwise there is always somebody on the bench the entire game. Cable thinks he should go 1 RB at a time because otherwise they won’t get a feel for the game.
January 19th, 2010 at 6:39 am
Morning Raider Nation,
On Mike and Mike, Nnamdi was never asked about JaLoser, maybe by prearrangement. Lukewarm endorsement of the soon to be fired (I hope) Cable.
January 19th, 2010 at 6:41 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 6:38 am
here is the problem with Darren McFadden (IMO)
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4. Has a tendency to trip over the hash mark.
January 19th, 2010 at 6:43 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 6:38 am
here is the problem with Darren McFadden (IMO)
1. Luke Lawton, Gary Russell, Samson Satele, Chris Morris, Cooper Carlisle, Cornell Green, Erik Pears, etc. – is that even considered BLOCKING? most of these clowns would have a hard time cracking another 53 man roster, much less starting!
2. Cable’s playcalling and personnel choices. DMC has proved that if you give him at least 15 carries a game he will get the job done. Same with Mike Bush. Both are great pass catchers as well
3. Darren’s Durability. this is the most concerning to me because if he turns up injury prone (like Justin) we are in serious trouble. I thought when we drafted him that he had skinny legs. I wondered if he could be a between the tackle type of runner. move the pile on occasion. stiff arm a LB or SS and keep going full speed.
A “RB by committee” approach is only good if you have a HC or play caller that believes in it. otherwise there is always somebody on the bench the entire game. Cable thinks he should go 1 RB at a time because otherwise they won’t get a feel for the game.
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Horsesh!t! None of this addresses his penchant to tackle himself and/or FUMBLE the ball!
January 19th, 2010 at 6:44 am
Rockstar…
We’ll never see the best of Dmac until the Raiders look at how the Saints use Bush and how the Vikes use Harvin.
January 19th, 2010 at 6:45 am
Neilb….Yes I would….We need a Explosive RB.I thiught Dmac would be that.So no good.Still I have hope 4him.But anyway that mock is pretty close 2 what we need,imo.Maybe not in that order but these are position’s of need 4 us
January 19th, 2010 at 6:48 am
4eva,
Good point about those Fargas runs with Grads in…looked promising. Sort of like a ZBS running game is supposed to look.
January 19th, 2010 at 6:48 am
None of this addresses his penchant to tackle himself and/or FUMBLE the ball!
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come on BSJ. you know McFadden on almost any other NFL team would be a stud by now
January 19th, 2010 at 6:49 am
Still I have hope 4him.
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me too 4eva. I think if/when we get a decent QB and some blocking McFadden & Bush will both explode onto the scene
January 19th, 2010 at 6:49 am
It all depends on free-agency imo.Best O-line free agents and go D with the draft.
January 19th, 2010 at 6:51 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 6:48 am
come on BSJ. you know McFadden on almost any other NFL team would be a stud by now
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Whatever Dakota. He averaged a yard less than Bush with an astounding number of fumbles/carry. No more excuses for DMAC. I want him traded for picks, with Bush getting more carries.
January 19th, 2010 at 6:52 am
neilb Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 6:44 am
Rockstar…
We’ll never see the best of Dmac until the Raiders look at how the Saints use Bush and how the Vikes use Harvin.
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Oh, DMAC wouldn’t trip or fumble if we called their plays?
January 19th, 2010 at 6:53 am
Or trade DMAC for a proven MLB/leader to help Seymour.
January 19th, 2010 at 6:54 am
Bo….Yep Grads and Fargas could sell a bag of ice 2 an Eskimo on those pitches,imo =)
If like that mock states and we do draft McCluster,could you just imagine that speedster scat-back on a pitch!?!?!?!?!?!
January 19th, 2010 at 6:55 am
Theres so many good rbs out there trading dmac really wouldnt hurt us. Cj spiller, jhavid best, ryan matthews, dexter McCluster… we can trade dmac add another player of more need and replacing him wouldnt be hard so i’d do it.
January 19th, 2010 at 6:56 am
Dakota? I’m not Dakota. he wants DMC to do well because he was calling for us to draft him.
I wanted Ryan Clady…
I thought Jordan, Fargas, Rhodes & Echemandu was fine at RB. plus Bush would be back in 2008
I think McFadden can be solid. I think he can be salvaged. not because I wanted us to draft him or I want to be right, but because he’s a Raider
January 19th, 2010 at 6:58 am
later gents. time to get some work done around here
January 19th, 2010 at 6:59 am
Bo…
We’ll never know because the Raiders think he can run between the tackles on most plays.
January 19th, 2010 at 7:03 am
Neilb, I agree to a point. DMAC shouldn’t be running between the tackles or around the tackles, he should be catching passes. And if he can’t do that either, we’re hosed.
January 19th, 2010 at 7:04 am
…and THAT is the problem…IMHO!!!
January 19th, 2010 at 7:06 am
Exactly.Dmac’s not totally blameless but it doesn’t help if the game plan doesn’t play to your strengths.
January 19th, 2010 at 7:08 am
….and why didn’t we try Dmac in the wildcat ?
January 19th, 2010 at 7:10 am
What we need is 4 everyone 2B healthy this coming year.We really need an honest eval of personell,imo.Then let the AXE swing =)
January 19th, 2010 at 7:12 am
Cable is a line coach, not an offensive coordinator. Does not have the intellectual capability to design an offensive game plan. Not X and O’s capable. Uses Al’s overhead projector for offense meetings.
January 19th, 2010 at 7:16 am
“Overhead projector”….I wouldn’t be shocked if they still used chalk and a blackboard.
January 19th, 2010 at 7:16 am
Good Morning Nation!!
Still no news?
January 19th, 2010 at 7:17 am
Where is LA to the Bay when we need him?
January 19th, 2010 at 7:18 am
“Overhead projector” get over it!!
January 19th, 2010 at 7:21 am
I’m trying!!
January 19th, 2010 at 7:22 am
good morning raider nation this is a 1st usually i get the news from u guys for once i get it first nnamdi on mike n mike is a pure show of class i wish r owner had check it out peaace nation
January 19th, 2010 at 7:22 am
Russell is a bust. 1. he does not give the team any confidence when he is out there.
2. The offense was simplified for him, yet he still struggled. 3. When the offense is simplified like that, it gives you no shot of being functional at this level. Team’s scheme all week for Brees, Manning and many other better QBs that run far more complex offenses. So imagine when you face the Raiders, play against JaMarcus and a simple attack like Cable’s. It’s not like he’s doing innovative stuff out there.
Cable must go. But only if they bring in a REAL coach, not a puppet and a guy who will give AL the finger and say, “I’m doing it this way…,”
Otherwise, keep Cable there. He wants to stay, the team likes him, but strip him of his play calling duties and given him an off. coordinator that can actually call a good game. But if you keep him, Al better not play him like a fiddle and demand DHB to start just because he’s paying him, or Russell to continue to start etc.
AL Davis is a puppet master, and he liked Yes men. Until he says, “F-it, I can’t do this, let me get qualified people to run this mess…,” Oakland will always struggle.
Unless they can catch lightning in a bottle for one-season, somehow pull off 9 wins and be one of those feel good stories of the season that the NFL has every year. But even then, Raider fans will be to dumb, except that and think they have something to build on. Instead of looking at it as a fluky year. Long term, they will still have issues.
Heck, just look at the morons NOW. Gradkowski came in and played better than Russell, and all of the sudden, he’s the savior. A journeyman. YEAH RIGHT!
The guy played better than Russell (which is not saying much), and when you see both worlds, you can easily then be blinded by Bruce’s success ’cause Russell was so bad. Any upgrade would have improved the offense. But that does not mean that he’s the solution.
Like the guy from SBReport.net said, Oak. should bring in Marc Bulger, give him the job, add a solid run in the mill WR, improve the DL and hope for one good run.
January 19th, 2010 at 7:22 am
Trade DMAC for an overhead projector!
January 19th, 2010 at 7:23 am
Me too….lol!
January 19th, 2010 at 7:24 am
Bo…LOL!!!!!!!
January 19th, 2010 at 7:24 am
Haha! That over head projector better block!
January 19th, 2010 at 7:25 am
BTW – A.Killion is not hot. Nancy Gay is a fine looking woman. Plus, I like the name Nancy…dear to me.
January 19th, 2010 at 7:30 am
The Bills have hired Chan Gailey as head coach.
January 19th, 2010 at 7:34 am
People comparing Dmac to Harvin and R.Bush stop, while Dmac has great speed he has no shakes and BSJ is right he falls down half the time. Show me the last time Dmac shook somebody like Harvin and Bush do on a regular basis. No more hiding for Dmac he got a pass cause Russell and DHB are so awful but not anymore he has to produce.
January 19th, 2010 at 7:34 am
Here’s a question: Do you guys think that Norv will get fired for that onside kick? Well, not only that, the whole team came out flat!
January 19th, 2010 at 7:36 am
I’m not comparing Dmac to Bush or Harvin.I’m saying that’s the way we should use Dmac.
January 19th, 2010 at 7:36 am
Marc Bulger is 1 hit from having a bowl of soup in his helmet….Marc Bulger?( in my best Jim Mora)Marc Bulger?hahahahahahahah another sheep being led around by the mediots LOL….Marc Bulger?
January 19th, 2010 at 7:37 am
Hwnrdr….
Norv’s signed a new 3 year deal.
January 19th, 2010 at 7:40 am
Did he? The beginning of the year? How long will that team stay together? This should have been there year with all that talent! Oh well…
January 19th, 2010 at 7:42 am
…..signed thro’ to the 2013 season ( signed today )
January 19th, 2010 at 7:44 am
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d815d2c9e&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
Ref:Norv.
January 19th, 2010 at 7:46 am
WOW…has he really coached that team? We’ll see…
Thanks Neilb!!!
January 19th, 2010 at 7:49 am
I must admit,it was a bit of a shock when I saw that.What’s the difference between Marty and Norv ?
January 19th, 2010 at 7:49 am
Jerry Mac is the info-pimp for the Raiders. Herrera would never mess with him — Mac would back-hand the taste out of his mouth!
January 19th, 2010 at 7:52 am
Norv won a playoff game…Marty didn’t…but I still think that is Marty’s team…
January 19th, 2010 at 7:54 am
Off to get something to eat…
Enjoy your Tuesday my friends.
January 19th, 2010 at 7:56 am
U2
January 19th, 2010 at 7:56 am
U2!!!
January 19th, 2010 at 7:57 am
wheeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
January 19th, 2010 at 8:02 am
Ok…enjoy the day Nation!!! Gots work to do!!!
Aloha…
January 19th, 2010 at 8:09 am
Well Nancy Gay fan, Ann isnt hot?…oh yes she is, Iv seen both those ladies in person, Nancy is a dog, and a total biitch on top of that, Ann Killion is a super hot babe, and not into grudges, like lard butt Nancy.
January 19th, 2010 at 8:12 am
NancyGayFan Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 7:25 am
BTW – A.Killion is not hot. Nancy Gay is a fine looking woman. Plus, I like the name Nancy…dear to me.”
Nancy Gay couldn’t have said it better herself. But wouldn’t Nancy have better things to do then to hang out on Jerry’s blog? You’d think, but then again Art Spander pokes his head in here all the time…
January 19th, 2010 at 8:13 am
with today’s chat room format, Jerry responding to opinionations from the crowd, perhaps his secret identity(ies) will be revealed.
if he only drums up a list of the past 7 years’ won-loss record we will know he is KoolKell.
if he only cuts, pastes and then calls everyone else an idiot we will know he is Lil’ Rico.
etc.
Trade McF for a stouter Mop Handle.
January 19th, 2010 at 8:17 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 6:51 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 6:48 am
come on BSJ. you know McFadden on almost any other NFL team would be a stud by now
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Whatever Dakota. He averaged a yard less than Bush with an astounding number of fumbles/carry. No more excuses for DMAC. I want him traded for picks, with Bush getting more carries.
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Jezuz Bo,
You are verging on Oakglenn-Mistabrown obsessiveness when it comes to McFadden and myself.
Take some pills or something.
January 19th, 2010 at 8:18 am
Take some pills or somehting?…you makin fun of me dude?
January 19th, 2010 at 8:21 am
Darren McFadden has done nothing but cough it up since he’s been in the league. You can’t blame the Raiders for any thing other than drafting him. McFaddens “bust” status makes Jamarcus look like Matt Ryan back there.
January 19th, 2010 at 8:24 am
LMAO Bob!
January 19th, 2010 at 8:25 am
No Norco, this is me making fun of you…remember this one?:
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You mean this e-mail from Alameda Bob?
________________________________________
TO: jmcdonald@bayareanewsgroup.com
FROM: DR. John Walker, DO, MD, IMG-Alameda, California
Dear Mr. McDonald,
It has come to my attention that one of my patients, known to you as N0rco Bob, has been banned from posting comments on your Inside the Oakland Raiders blog.
Mr. N0rco Bob suffers from a wide variety of psychotic disorders, ranging from Delusional Disorder-Grandiose Type, which causes him to have an inflated sense of self worth, to Dependant Personality Disorder characterized by an over-reliance on others that leads to submissive and clinging behavior and fears of separation.
As of right now, Mr. N0rco Bob’s Delusional Disorder-Grandiose Type is dominant, however, it is my professional opinion that if you ban him from posting his delusional comments about his relationship with the Oakland Raiders on your blog you could push his Dependant Personality Disorder to the forefront, causing him to, perhaps, do harm to himself or others. He also suffers from a mild form of Panic Disorder that in combination with his feelings of separation from your blog may cause him to have a sudden onset of heart palpitations, chest pain, choking sensations, dizziness, and feelings of unreality.
As his treating MD I request that you lift the ban from Mr. N0rco Bob, both for his safety and the safety of others. Mr. N0rco Bob is one of the saddest cases I have run across in my 30 plus years of practice in the field of psychiatrics. Years of research and studies may be ruined by your actions.
Yours Truly,
Dr. John Walker, DO, MD, IMG-Alameda, California
January 19th, 2010 at 8:28 am
Nnahmbdi on 1st Take…I would trade him today for wolfork.
January 19th, 2010 at 8:29 am
If some team was to offer a 2nd round pick for DMAC, easy call, do it.
January 19th, 2010 at 8:31 am
Dakota Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 8:17 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 6:51 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 6:48 am
come on BSJ. you know McFadden on almost any other NFL team would be a stud by now
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Whatever Dakota. He averaged a yard less than Bush with an astounding number of fumbles/carry. No more excuses for DMAC. I want him traded for picks, with Bush getting more carries.
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Jezuz Bo,
You are verging on Oakglenn-Mistabrown obsessiveness when it comes to McFadden and myself.
Take some pills or something.
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It was a rhetorical comment. I was not suggesting trolling, only that RRS was a blind to incompetence as you are.
January 19th, 2010 at 8:31 am
If some team offered a six pack of Sprite for Dmac and offered to come get his stuff you would take it.
January 19th, 2010 at 8:32 am
Seymour Bush Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 8:21 am
Darren McFadden has done nothing but cough it up since he’s been in the league. You can’t blame the Raiders for any thing other than drafting him. McFaddens “bust” status makes Jamarcus look like Matt Ryan back there.
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Lucid comment.
January 19th, 2010 at 8:37 am
Dakota,
c’mon now. Your boy McF was the 53rd leading rusher in the NFL this past season. With one TD and four fumbles.
BoSJack is having some fun.
January 19th, 2010 at 8:37 am
McFadden has 8 career fumbles in 269 career “touches”.
One fumble every 20 times he gets the ball. Until he improves that, and his team-low YPC, he doesn’t deserve any more handoff’s than Fargas.
He has some potential catching the ball, but his carries are un-productive. Instead of “D-Mac” his nickname should be “2nd and 8″
January 19th, 2010 at 8:39 am
But forget DMAC being traded, no chance, he has about the same chance at leaving as Russell does,…none.
January 19th, 2010 at 8:40 am
He has also missed 8 out of 32 potential games, while being far from a workhorse.
They should try to trade him, at leasts to see what they can get. I would like to see what his market value would be.
January 19th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Interesing watching Comcast Sports yesterday, Gradkowski getting interviewed in the parking lot on way to “workout in the gym” there…sadly Russell wont be there, until required to be, per the collective bargaining agreement. Awful.
January 19th, 2010 at 8:44 am
The Raiders should try and get anything out of DMAC,..punt return, kickoff returns,..wide outs,..anything,…if he gets injured, bfd.
January 19th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Instead of “D-Mac” his nickname should be “2nd and 8″
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LMAO!
January 19th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Your guys must be on some pretty awesome hallucinatory drugs if you thing DMC would even be considered by the Raiders front office (read: al) as trade bait…
January 19th, 2010 at 8:46 am
was just looking at a Raider career stat page.
I would’ve never guessed that the career yards per carry averages for Crash Test and Marcus Allen are identical at 4.1
lies, damned lies!, and statistics
January 19th, 2010 at 8:47 am
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
The Raiders have more pressing concerns than McFadden’s lack of production thus far…like their QB, o-line, run defense and HC.
January 19th, 2010 at 8:47 am
Seymour Bush Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 8:31 am
If some team offered a six pack of Sprite for Dmac and offered to come get his stuff you would take it.
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i would even offer to throw in cab fare…
January 19th, 2010 at 8:48 am
I hope the Raiders trade McFadden.
SAVE MCFADDEN TRADE HIM TO A DECENT TEAM!!!!!!
January 19th, 2010 at 8:49 am
Trade DMAC for some awesome hallucinatory drugs!
January 19th, 2010 at 8:50 am
Dakota Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 8:48 am
I hope the Raiders trade McFadden.
SAVE MCFADDEN TRADE HIM TO A DECENT TEAM!!!!!!
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The Cubs?!
January 19th, 2010 at 8:50 am
NOW you’re talkin! Bo
January 19th, 2010 at 8:53 am
I would trade nhambdi strait up for McNabb,..today…hes got about 3 great years left., same as nhambdi.
January 19th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Norco Bob Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 8:53 am
I would trade nhambdi strait up for McNabb,..today…hes got about 3 great years left., same as nhambdi.
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Nhorcdo Bhobdi, you are nuts.
January 19th, 2010 at 8:59 am
its Nnamdi… where ypu getting the “B” from
January 19th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Trade for McNabb, he has three decent years left in him…a 2nd and a 3rd should do the trick.
Fire Cable and hire Mariucci as HC.
Draft/sign a RT, RG and C.
Get a real NT and some LBs.
Sign a kick returner.
Instead Al will probably: Retain Cable, sign Jeff George, draft a DE, CB and WR and retain the entire o-line.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:00 am
…maybe the same place I got that “p” from
January 19th, 2010 at 9:01 am
Hire Mooch?..guess Im not the only one on drugs in here.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:02 am
McNabb crumbles under pressure ’cause he ain’t got the wheels he once had. Put him behind the current Raiders’ O-line and he would be booed no end.
Dakota,
maybe McF can get a gig as the mascot for the Sioux Falls Skyforce then you can drive over and watch him in action (the key is that the markings on a basketball court are less easy to trip over than are the hash marks on a football field).
January 19th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Hell yes! Bring in Mariucci.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Morning Nation
January 19th, 2010 at 9:06 am
Hey Dakota,
Don’t worry, we’ll have Nick Miller ready in week 15 next season.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:08 am
Mariucci would work as an OC… he is not they kind of HC/leader that this young team needs though.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:08 am
M Lonetree Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 9:02 am
McNabb crumbles under pressure ’cause he ain’t got the wheels he once had. Put him behind the current Raiders’ O-line and he would be booed no end.
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That is true, that is why fixing the o-line has to be priority #1! Fix the o-line and I guarantee even Russell would look better!
Tom Cable and his zone blocking BS about finding linemen late in the draft or picking up other teams trash (Barnes, Harris and Satele) and calling them good fits for the zone blocking scheme has to end NOW.
If Tom Cable doesn’t understand that, then fire his azz today!
January 19th, 2010 at 9:09 am
If you think Cable is a puppet. Mooch????????????????
January 19th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Trade DMAC to the Sioux Falls Skyforce!
January 19th, 2010 at 9:11 am
Trade me for Marshawn Lynch, atleast.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:12 am
DMAC Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 9:09 am
If you think Cable is a puppet. Mooch????????????????
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At least Mariucci would be a puppet with a brain …Cable is just a sock puppet.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:14 am
It wouldn’t matter. Brains or no brains. Puppet!
January 19th, 2010 at 9:16 am
Mooch= Al’s pinnochio
January 19th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Trade Russell and Mcfadden for as many early round draft picks as possible.
Draft a MLB, NT, T in that order, then Pike and then a whole lot more offensive linemen.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Mariucci has not built a team – only success was with a spoon-fed winner like Gruden in TB.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Don’t forget to pick up a FB. Really hurt us this season not having a decent FB. It did wonders for LT. Without Lorenzo Neal, LT ain’t schit.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:19 am
spoon-fed is right.Left them old and tired too
January 19th, 2010 at 9:22 am
Yeah we could get a 7th round pick in the 2014 draft for Russell… its worth it too!
January 19th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Mariucci has not built a team – only success was with a spoon-fed winner like Gruden in TB.
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Which coach out there has built a decent team? Cowher wasn’t the GM of the Steelers. Martz took over a good team. Did Brian Billick build the 200 Ravens? I doubt it.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:25 am
2000 Ravens
January 19th, 2010 at 9:27 am
clikity-clak, clikity-clak…
Time to roll the dice Al.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:27 am
Tony Dungy did not build the Colts…
Dennis Green is one of the only coaches out there that had almost complete say over his roster and he has some success.
I guess Dennis Green is your man Bo! lol
puuuuuke
January 19th, 2010 at 9:29 am
I can’t wait – ten years from now, Russell will be a bust, broke, and rocking his chin-chila coats at Fast Food joints in his home-town.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:31 am
But it isn’t Jamarcus’ fault. His coaches, his receivers, his blockers – they all let him down. Ask Russell. He’ll tell you.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:32 am
Denny Green blows. He’ll be an Al puppet – like the others who have come before him.
Plus, he’ll probably take the job, convince AL that JaMarcus has life an can be resurrected and we’ll have to live with that mess for another year and a half.
PASS!!!
I woudl rather have Cable, jumping through loops for Al, with Davis hiring a new off. coordinator and simplifying Cable’s sideline duties.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:32 am
Dakota Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Mariucci has not built a team – only success was with a spoon-fed winner like Gruden in TB.
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Which coach out there has built a decent team? Cowher wasn’t the GM of the Steelers. Martz took over a good team. Did Brian Billick build the 200 Ravens? I doubt it.
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Not saying GM. Mariucci simply didn’t make the teams he inherited any better. Contrast to Fassel, or Jimmy Johnson, or Tony Dungy, or Marty Schottenheimer, or Mike Holmgren, or…
Not that these guys are options. In other words, if you can’t find a coach with a good track record, find an up-and-comer. Avoid the bums who have shown they cannot grow their team.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:36 am
I’ll buy that Bo. I’ll take an up-and-comer like Leslie Frazier, Brian Schottenheimer, Todd bowles, Jeff Davidson, Hue Jackson or Pat Schurmer….or Harbaugh of course.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:37 am
1. Chaz was hurt
2. DHB was bad in his 1st year
3. Oak. has a bad unit at WR
4. The OL has been shaky
5. Lane out, Cable in – instability on the sidelines and off the field
6. No powerful rush attack
7. No creativity at coach
8. The burden of being the no. 1 overall pick and pressure that comes with that; he was overwhelmed…
YES, JaMarcus had a lot of bad things, and not an environment conducive to development.
BUT
1. He is lazy
2. Does not care about getting better
3. Is dumb – as evidenced by the dumbing down of the off., and STILL his inability to grasp it and produce
4. Is not accurate
5. Does not project a confident, strong-willed attitude for winning; as evidenced by him being overweight among other things.
6. Teammates like Chaz S., after games, have avoided talking about Russ, and have a change of sorrow in their face when he is mentioned by the media
7. Did I say he was dumb?
8. Was hindering the off., proven when OAK inserted Grad and Frye and they improved a lot without the tub of lard…
I can continue…
RUSS’ inability to succeed in this league is as much his doing as the dysfunctional team he is on!
January 19th, 2010 at 9:37 am
At least Mariucci would be a puppet with a brain …Cable is just a sock puppet.
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Cable is not a puppet… thats why he’s on the hot seat right now. He benched jameatloaf and told al we can’t win with em, cant coach with em, cant do it and al didn’t like that. And did you see how much the raiders blitzed later in the season??? You know al didn’t like that and I even remmember john marshall saying they may get yelled at for it but they’ll continue to do it as long as it works. Cabe went against al alot this year, trust me he’s no puppet.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:37 am
Florida Pete Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 4:28 am
http://www.coachmarctrestman.com/
trestman’s site… interesting apparel…
is it a message to Al ???
January 19th, 2010 at 9:39 am
Dakota Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 9:36 am
I’ll buy that Bo.
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Spoken like a true pawn broker.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:40 am
Millen
Mariucci
Dez Bryant
they come as a package deal.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Thanks for pointing out the obvious Nancy. Any solutions?
January 19th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Tom cables pimp hand Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 9:37 am
At least Mariucci would be a puppet with a brain …Cable is just a sock puppet.
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Cable is not a puppet… thats why he’s on the hot seat right now. He benched jameatloaf and told al we can’t win with em, cant coach with em, cant do it and al didn’t like that. And did you see how much the raiders blitzed later in the season??? You know al didn’t like that and I even remmember john marshall saying they may get yelled at for it but they’ll continue to do it as long as it works. Cabe went against al alot this year, trust me he’s no puppet.
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We don’t know what happened, but I think Cable had Al’s permission to bench Russell…he just didn’t have Al’s permission to spout off to the media and throw Russell under the bus for the 5-11 season. If Cable wasn’t a puppet, DHB would have never seen the field in 2009.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Hey Pete,
Sum it up for me please. Can’t see schit on my screen.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Lol,..check out Cam Inmans tweet about Jamarcus,..hes the Mobile Mardi Gras king,..crowning is Feb 14th,…lol.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:44 am
jAMARCUS LEFT alot of plays on the field this year, and you saw we have a chance with an atleast servicable qb in the game. I mean even with the third string we had a better chance to win so that shows exactly how bad jamarcus is… the third string!!! I don’t blame cable at all, al is the sole man responsible for players drafted as we all know and he has been ducking the offensive line for years now, tom cable can coach an o-line, he’s had success here in the past and on other teams as well so we know its not coaching, al just hasn’t givin cable the players to help him succeed. Im tellin you no coach can be successful with the players on this line.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:44 am
http://www.allcoachnetwork.com/trestman/images/main-center-mt-2007-pic.JPG
Trestman just looks a little too Norv-ish in this pic. OC is his role.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Cable noticed beys troubles I doubt he wanted to keep dhb in as well, but al only gives so much rope. I don’t even believe cable wanted to draft bey. But like you say we don’t know exactly what happened. I feel it has to be al though because as we’ve seen cable has no problem sitting players if they don’t perform. Last year he sat huff, and he sat curry. So why stop now unless there’s powers that be thats holding em back. I could be wrong but thats my logic.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Tom cables pimp hand Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Cable noticed beys troubles I doubt he wanted to keep dhb in as well, but al only gives so much rope. I don’t even believe cable wanted to draft bey. But like you say we don’t know exactly what happened. I feel it has to be al though because as we’ve seen cable has no problem sitting players if they don’t perform. Last year he sat huff, and he sat curry. So why stop now unless there’s powers that be thats holding em back. I could be wrong but thats my logic.
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Right…like I said, Cable is a puppet. He can only do what Al lets him do.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:51 am
There is no solution until moves on, or steps down — and you know when that is happening, right…?
January 19th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Al has been gunshy about drafting lineman since Gallery was supposed to be the best OT of all time and actually turned into a decent guard at best…
January 19th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Interesting Senate race today.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:56 am
Dakota,
Any coach of the Raiders has to work with Al. Some do it well, most blow it. The coach has to MANAGE Al’s desires and sell him on what the right plan is, ala Gruden. Cable has shown he can do that, which is a big plus. Now he just needs a better QB, O-line and playcaller.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Dakota Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Interesting Senate race today.
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Will be catastrophic for our buddy Norco Bob if they sink health care reform. Bob is the poster child for “pre-existing conditions”.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:00 am
but if thats the case then what will bringing in a new coach solve??? If hes a puppet like you say he can’t succeed , and if hes not a puppet and doesn’t atleast listen to al once in a while then he will instantly get fired like lane… Sounds like a catch 22 to me. but if we’re doomed either way I’d rather stick with cable for the continuity and hope it’d get turned around. If cable was all that bad of a coach I don’t see why the players would vouch for him the way they do and play as hard for them the way they do. I believe the players know more about a coach than we do, so if Nnam, gradkowski, seymour and all those guys believe in cable I believe in cable because i’m sure they know more about they need than we do because they live it everyday.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Thank you Bo I couldn’t have said it better myself.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Thats uncool Bo.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:06 am
Tom cables pimp hand Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 10:00 am
….If cable was all that bad of a coach I don’t see why the players would vouch for him the way they do and play as hard for them the way they do. I believe the players know more about a coach than we do, so if Nnam, gradkowski, seymour and all those guys believe in cable I believe in cable because i’m sure they know more about they need than we do because they live it everyday.
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The players said the same thing about Joe Bugel too…half the players (especially on the Raiders) would be flipping burgers if they couldn’t play ball and you want to go with their opinions?
I don’t think so.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:06 am
Continuity in an electrical circuit is not only useful but crucial.
Continuity with Cable 5-11 5-11 5-11 is kinda like Giuliani’s brain – 9-11 9-11 9-11 9-11 9-11, it doesn’t alter no matter what the circumstance.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Breaking News:
Tom Cable will stay as Head Coach since Al Davis can’t find any other better alternatives that would be worth the hassle to bring someone else on board. The hot candidates who should be looked like Gruden and Harbaugh, aren’t excited about Al Davis being involved in player personnel decisions and being the GM they would have to deal with on weekly basis.
In other news today. The Seahawks are the latest team to make a smart move (unlike the Raiders) by hiring Green Bays director of player personnel as their new GM.
Nnamdi Asomougha was on ESPN’s First Take this morning (with the scary bioootch Dana Jacobsen) saying how allowing Cable to return as head coach would give the players much needed continuity (especially on the offensive side of the ball with playbook terminology) and confidence into next season.
On a side note….it’s interesting how some on this board like pointing how Cable is still under contract?
Interesting….since details of Cables’ contract were never revealed when the interim tag was officially removed last February.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Toughen up Bob. You created your persona here, not me.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:08 am
Nancy,
perhaps like Rooney, Davis can be named ambassador to someplace.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:09 am
Now Garbagekowski is on the list of players whose opinions we should care about?
lol…man it is easy to get in the good graces of Raider Nation.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Its not a persona, yes I pop pills, not my persona.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:12 am
# bcz24 Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Al has been gunshy about drafting lineman since Gallery was supposed to be the best OT of all time and actually turned into a decent guard at best…
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Yeah…that’s what happens when the GM/PERSONNEL guy and scouts fail to recognize that the OT prospect your picking has SHORT ALIGATOR arms. OT’s need LONG arms first and foremost.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:12 am
So far Garbagekowski, Gallery, Nnamdi and Fargas have stateed they want Cable back…of course they do!
Garbagekowski knows Cable is his only shot to start at QB in the NFL.
Gallery found his spot thanks to Cable.
Fargas knows he has Cable wrapped about his little finger.
Nnamdi, well, Nnamdi is just tired of the coaching changes, as we all are.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Breaking News:
Tom Cable will stay as Head Coach since Al Davis can’t find any other better alternatives that would be worth the hassle to bring someone else on board. The hot candidates who should be looked like Gruden and Harbaugh, aren’t excited about Al Davis being involved in player personnel decisions and being the GM they would have to deal with on weekly basis.
In other news today. The Seahawks are the latest team to make a smart move (unlike the Raiders) by hiring Green Bays director of player personnel as their new GM.
Nnamdi Asomougha was on ESPN’s First Take this morning (with that scary bioootch Dana Jacobsen) saying how allowing Cable to return as head coach would give the players much needed continuity (especially on the offensive side of the ball with playbook terminology) and confidence into next season.
On a side note….it’s interesting how some on this board like pointing how Cable is still under contract?
Interesting….since details of Cables’ contract were never revealed when the interim tag was officially removed last February.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:14 am
The details were revealed Knight,..2 years, with a 3rd year, team option.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Dakota Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 10:09 am
Now Garbagekowski is on the list of players whose opinions we should care about?
lol…man it is easy to get in the good graces of Raider Nation.
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The important point is that the players who are speaking out about the situation are pro-Cable. Even Jerry says the off-the-record slams aren’t there this time.
And this young team plays a lot harder than recent teams, including the “vets” of 2002/03. Someone deserves credit for that miracle.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Maybe Nnamdi is just one of those guys that is more comfortable on a losing team for which people have zero expectations…that might be why he 1) re-signed with the Raiders and 2) wants Cable back.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:15 am
lonetree… So cable’s coaching is the resaon we went 5-11 this year??? Man we saw in the redskins game who the main culprit ii in the reason our season was as bad as it was, and if we would have stuck with him we wouldn’r have even won 5 games. With jamarcus on the bench we either lost or was in the game… with jamarcus out there it was blowout. We were up three against the redskins before jamarcus came in I think and then we bruce went down we go down like 20 points wtf. If any other qb woulld have started this year no even just bruce, we would have atleast won 8 games this year. We won 5 I think with bruce out there we would have won both charger games, that game against kc, and maybe even the redskins, and texan game. Now thats 5 games which leaves us at 10-5 and in the play offs. So don’t count this season as cables lost this year was tanked by jamarcus. Thats why I wouldn’t mind seeing him come back another year to see what he could do with a real qb.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Dakota, we shouldn’t listen to what Nnamdi, Grads, etc. are saying but rather believe what YOU tell us they really feel?
January 19th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Dakota,
The Raiders two most effective offensive weapons this past season were Gradkowski and Janokowski. That’s a fact.
Kinda like running the triangle offense through Mbenga and Vujicic.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:17 am
I agree Dakota about nnnhhammbddi…I dont think winning matters to him at all. Hope he gets traded.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Yea I added bruce in there bo because he’s played for a real coach before.(gruden)
January 19th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Dknight… do you feel your post carries more weight if you keep posting it over and over again?
January 19th, 2010 at 10:17 am
so he should know
January 19th, 2010 at 10:18 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Dakota, we shouldn’t listen to what Nnamdi, Grads, etc. are saying but rather believe what YOU tell us they really feel?
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I am not telling you to listen to me, I am just expressing my opinion on this blog. You can listen to the players if you would like…I mean they got Bugel hired once right?
January 19th, 2010 at 10:19 am
honestly I don’t see nnam coming back when his contract is up. I wouldn’t trade Nnam tho because you want to add talent to talent not trade talent for talent. We need mor Nnamdi asomugha’s
January 19th, 2010 at 10:20 am
bugel??? you’re living in the past like al now Dk. Not every situations the same
January 19th, 2010 at 10:24 am
The truth is………..
No coach would of accomplished anthing w/ Jaskittle at QB. NO COACH!
January 19th, 2010 at 10:25 am
What the players say matters because at the end of the day like micheal jordan said “its the players who win championships, the owners and all others just pay us”. And if they think they can win with him then hey… You have to take them for their word and they’ve played for some piece of shh coaches so yea they should know, and even though they probaby would be flipping burgers if they didn’t play football, they do play football because its all they know. They may not know much but they know football, and we can all agree Nnam would not be flipping burgers if he didn’t play football the guys smarter than you Im quite sure, so don’t talk like all football players are dumb. The mans done speeches with the president for christ sakes.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:25 am
Trading a shutdown corner like Nnamdi would be included on the long list of STUPID Al Davis moves.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:27 am
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Wake me up when Jerry and the other media talking heads go over what I did earlier regarding Cable coming back.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:27 am
Keeping Sock Puppet Tom and JaMarcrud “It ain’t my fault” Russell will leave the concession stands up on Mount Davis awfully lonely places to work.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:31 am
With jamarcus on the bench we either lost or was in the game… with jamarcus out there it was blowout. We were up three against the redskins before jamarcus came in I think and then we bruce went down we go down like 20 points wtf.
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LMFAO!
We were LOSING when Russell came in, CMON!
The we won when Jamarcus went to the bench argument is ridiculous! We had ONE good 4th qtr in Pittsburgh. Other than that, we got BLOWN out in Dallas and Cleveland, and the offense was abysmal in the other games.
The defense and STs won the Cincy game, and guess who won the other game, lol!
January 19th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Well, under Cable as HC our HC we can’t run the ball, we can’t throw the ball, we can’t block, we can’t stop the run and even our special teams, our one strength from 2008, evaporated in 2009.
Do you honestly believe that Russell is responsible for ALL of that?
Cable is the head coach, he is the man responsible for the entire team. He can’t get the job done. We beat
1) KC, so what?
2) Eagles team that didn’t run the ball and turned out to be nothing at the end.
3) A Steelers team that was in a tailspin well before we beat them.
4) A Broncos team that was also in a tailspin.
5) A Bengals team that fumbled away their chances on a kickoff, but this was probably our best win.
How did we follow up those glorious victories? Loss Loss Loss Loss Loss. It is the head coach’s job to get the team ready and prepared on a week to week basis; Cable has proven he can’t do that.
I guess if you want the players’ opinions, fine, of course they like Cable; his first act as HC last year? Stopped making the players practice until they got the plays right…really has paid off hasn’t it? Then he allows the team to take a vacation for the first few days of training camp. Again, great job. I can understand why the players like him…
January 19th, 2010 at 10:32 am
Well Cable actually accomplished getting a head coaching job in the NFL with Jaskittles, lol! He would have NEVER gotten that job last year without Russell and company winning out and Russell telling Al he was ok with Cable.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:33 am
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Exactly Dakota!
January 19th, 2010 at 10:33 am
#21 is on 1st and 10!
January 19th, 2010 at 10:35 am
Dakota,
Not really a Cable supporter, but realistically would you rather have anyone of these coaches instead?
Fassell?
Green?
Mooch?
Gilbride?
I rather take the Cable Guy.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:38 am
DMAC, how about Gruden or Cowher?
January 19th, 2010 at 10:38 am
I’d take all of those guys AND Rob Ryan over Tom Cable if he has anything to do with Personnel packages and playcalling. If Cable gives all that up to an Asst Head Coach/Offensive Coordinator, then fugg it, let him stay. And really because I’d like to see Marshall’s defense year 2.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:39 am
DMAC Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 10:35 am
Dakota,
Not really a Cable supporter, but realistically would you rather have anyone of these coaches instead?
Fassell?
Green?
Mooch?
Gilbride?
I rather take the Cable Guy.
Yes
Yes
Yes
Maybe…at least Gilbride would put Bush on the field.
Those first three guys have much better resumes than Cable…Gilbride…I am not a big fan, but he would still be an improvement over Cable I am sure.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:39 am
I’ll take either one, but that’s not happening.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:40 am
When Bush was on the field, he needed a breather every other run. Cable’s fought?
January 19th, 2010 at 10:42 am
Why are so many guys on Tom Cable’s team out of shape?
January 19th, 2010 at 10:42 am
Why was the running game not practiced at all during camp?
January 19th, 2010 at 10:42 am
If you think Cable is a puppet, then………..
I don’t know what Fassell, Green, Ryan, Gilbride, Mooch will be.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:43 am
jhill Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 10:38 am
I’d take all of those guys AND Rob Ryan over Tom Cable if he has anything to do with Personnel packages and playcalling. If Cable gives all that up to an Asst Head Coach/Offensive Coordinator, then fugg it, let him stay. And really because I’d like to see Marshall’s defense year 2.
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Yes, if Cable was limited to a pre-game speech, a post game news conference and could only call timeouts during a game (I know, he isn’t even very good at that…remember when he called a TO to ice the kicker, but the kicker missed that FG but made the next one lol) and I guess he could work with the o-line, and had absolutely nothing to do with who gets to play, what plays are called and which players are signed to play on the o-line, then I could stomach Cable for another year.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:44 am
DMAC Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 10:42 am
If you think Cable is a puppet, then………..
I don’t know what Fassell, Green, Ryan, Gilbride, Mooch will be.
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Like I said, if we have to have a puppet HC, I would rather have a puppet with SOME ablities…Cable has none.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:45 am
I heard Nmamdi on mike and mike in the morning and he said that the ones who are affected the most about all the coaching changes are the young players. The vets are already used to it. That’s some BS!!! The more I step back and look at our situation, the more mind boggled I am. How can we ever get off the floor?? O ya, if we keep Cable, we definately need to get an offensive coordinator!!!
January 19th, 2010 at 10:45 am
I would rather keep Cable than hire Rob Ryan though!!!! Rob Ryan, Art Shell…there are a few guys I would keep Cable over…
January 19th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Dakota,
holy schytt… i can’t believe I am actually seeing you write taht you want to keep Cable…lmao.
next thing you know, you’re gonna vote for Obamacare…
January 19th, 2010 at 10:47 am
“I do get a feeling, like during the preseason and stuff, we ran the ball a little bit, but it was more of a thing where we say, ‘Well, we know we can run it. Let’s work on the pass.’ And you can’t hang your hat on what you did before,” running back Justin Fargas said Monday. “It’s kind of like you have to still improve it. Like yesterday, teams stack the box against us. And if you’re not really detailed and if you don’t control the line of scrimmage — you’re not detailed in your assignments, you don’t control the line of scrimmage, you’re not going to be able to run the ball.”
January 19th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Not a Cable supporter, just looking at other REAL options.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Like I said, if we have to have a puppet HC, I would rather have a puppet with SOME ablities…Cable has none.
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We don’t both don’t know that. We assume.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:49 am
I am still laughing at a puppet with SOME abilities!!
January 19th, 2010 at 10:50 am
The offense looked SLIGHTLY better when Gallery returned from injury, Pears and Barnes went to the inactive list, and Chaz and JLH were the starting WRs.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Can anyone tell me why we cut Paul Mcquistan?
January 19th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Keep Cable for sure, clearly our best option, given circumstance.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Was Gary Russell and John Holland REALLY the best options Cable could think of to return kicks? I really doubt it was Al’s decision to keep the faith on a Nick Miller return.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:53 am
We didn’t have a chance w/ Jaskittle at QB. The D stacked the line, because they knew we were’nt a threat to throw the ball.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Why are so many guys on Tom Cable’s team out of shape?
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Does al allow any coach to discipline??? So no matter who coaches that won’t change
January 19th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Jhill
I can…because he wasn’t good enough to play at this level he belongs in the Arena league.
Just because his brother is a beast doesn’t mean he is going to be one…….he was one of Art Shells project players that didn’t pan out
January 19th, 2010 at 10:54 am
Was Cooper Carlisle the only REAL guard we had on the roster last year?
I wonder if Gallery will get a look at OT when Cable is out of here?
January 19th, 2010 at 10:57 am
Well he certainly looked better than Cornell Green when he started at RT for those 9 games.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:57 am
Even if we have a great draft this year I think it will take atleast 3 years to get back to respectablity in the league if we get rid of the coaching staff. Same ole $h!t, different toilet!!!
January 19th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Was Gary Russell and John Holland REALLY the best options Cable could think of to return kicks? I really doubt it was Al’s decision to keep the faith on a Nick Miller return.
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If thats the case fire the special teams coach, because tom is control of every thing. Fire marshall as well too. Cables responsible for everything right?? Last year higgins was a threat on punt returns, our specials teams coach leaves and all of a sudden higgins production dwindles. Cables not responsible for evrything wrong with this team like you make it out to be. The man was coaching the line calling plays etc a head coach can only do so much thats what you have assistant coaches for.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:58 am
# Tom cables pimp hand Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Why are so many guys on Tom Cable’s team out of shape?
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Does al allow any coach to discipline??? So no matter who coaches that won’t change
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When have you EVER seen Raider teams being conditioned?
January 19th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Let’s move Walker to RG permenantly and pick up a RT and a Center.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:00 am
The D stacked the line, because they knew we were’nt a threat to throw the ball.
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You’re right about that. With DHB and Murphy starting at WR, and an Oline made up of Pears, Morris, Carlisle, and Satele … what team would be able to pass?
January 19th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Gallery credits cable for his ressurection. Carlisle is aging and he’s not brett favre , which means hes not playing better as he ages. sho signs players??? Al brings in players like dhb and refuses to bring in real o-lineman, No coach will be successful with the combo of carlisle and green. Henderson should be a RT.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:02 am
They passed much better w/ Grads and basically the same players w/ the exception of DHB.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:03 am
typo so who signs players
January 19th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Cables not responsible for evrything wrong with this team like you make it out to be.
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Right, it’s Jamarcus Russell’s fault. I forgot, lol!
So are you saying that Cable ISNT responsible for Russell and Holland returning kicks? You don’t think that is something the HC should look at and say we need an upgrade? Are you REALLY cool with the way the Cable kept Miller on the roster all year and went with “interim” return guys?
January 19th, 2010 at 11:04 am
I know that some in here have blamed F%$king Fargas! for all the teams woes, but I think it is all on Javon Walker.
If Walker hadn’t done his Vegas he might’ve caught 40 balls and 3 TDs over the past two years meaning the Raiders might’ve reached 6 wins dammit!
January 19th, 2010 at 11:05 am
DMAC Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 11:02 am
They passed much better w/ Grads and basically the same players w/ the exception of DHB.
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Thank you Dmac… Its just jamarcus throws too hard, drew brees throws an accurate catchable ball. I mean jamarcus throws 5yrd bullets for crying out loud… Whos gonna catch that??
January 19th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Javon or Nick Miller. The redacted promise of that dynamo Nicky would’ve completely changed the complexion of a 5 win team into a 6 win team! Dammit!
January 19th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Gary Russell returned kicks for the Pittsburgh Steeler team last year when they won the super bowl. So, maybe not a horrible call.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:07 am
# jhill Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Can anyone tell me why we cut Paul Mcquistan?
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not a system fit
January 19th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Al signs players that his coaches want. Cable is the ZBS guy, not Al Davis. We have nothing but ZBS guys on the squad until Al brought back an old power blocker in Langston Walker.
Barnes breaking his leg MIGHT have been a real set back. Too bad we didn’t get to see him battle it out with Henderson with the loser getting the RT spot. Could’ve moved Cornbread to RG.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:07 am
People started to respect the pass a little bit more and that’s the main reason Bush, finally had lanes to run through.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:08 am
Or Barrett Robbins. It’s all been downhill since that day.
Hire Robbins as HC. Might make for some interesting press conferences.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Al brought him back or Cable? We both don’t know that. We assume.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:10 am
DMAC Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 11:02 am
They passed much better w/ Grads and basically the same players w/ the exception of DHB.
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That’s BS!
Basically the same players?????
JLH and Chaz starting at WR are NOT basically the same as DHB and Murphy starting with Watkins the #3.
Morris at G is NOT the same as Gallery at G
Erik Pears and Barnes were WORSE than Cornell Green if you can actually believe that.
Basically the same players? LMFAO!
January 19th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Farking Walker!
January 19th, 2010 at 11:11 am
Keep The Cable Guy.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:11 am
Same players dog!
January 19th, 2010 at 11:11 am
Gallery was reinjured.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:12 am
Trade DMAC for the redacted promise of that dynamo Nicky!
January 19th, 2010 at 11:13 am
If your going trade me. Let’s make a deal for Marshawn Lynch.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:13 am
BoSJack,
LMAO!
January 19th, 2010 at 11:13 am
I mean jamarcus throws 5yrd bullets for crying out loud… Whos gonna catch that??
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Chaz and JLH have no problem catching his passes. Did you catch the Denver game? How about the Baltimore game? Too bad Henderson could block someone or we might have won the Baltimore game.Neither do Zack Miller, Meyers, or any of the running backs. Of, And Murphy cathces his passes too. Might have something to do with him hanging out with Russell this summer?
January 19th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Nice diction Lonetree…
January 19th, 2010 at 11:14 am
So are you saying that Cable ISNT responsible for Russell and Holland returning kicks? You don’t think that is something the HC should look at and say we need an upgrade? Are you REALLY cool with the way the Cable kept Miller on the roster all year and went with “interim” return guys?
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Yes Im cool with it because him keeping miller on the roster wasn’t a reason we lost games. Yes we could have signed rossum and got a better return man but thats on scout staff and personell men to search for better replacements. You don’t fire a coach because he didn’t sign a returnman wtf, and al wanted jamarcus starting this season and you know that. Everybody knew garcia was the raiders best chance to win in camp, thats why cable brought him along im sure if cable was coaching on any other team he would have jamarcus on the bench ath the beginning of the season but our owner believes “jamarcus russel is a great player, get over it.” But Im done trying to tell you bout cable because your mind is not going to change and neither is mine. But I think cable is solid coach. There’s a reason 80% of fans feel he should get a second chance.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Dude, Jaskittle sux.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:15 am
DMAC,
Da kine thinkin’.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Gallery was reinjured in the Pittsburgh game and Walker came in for him at G. Satele was on the bench and so were Pears and Barnes. Oh, and so were DHB, and Watkins.
Not the same players, dogg!
January 19th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Same players. I’m done responding to that topic.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Jhill is right. The passing offense started to move once the following things happened:
1) Jamarcus got benched
2) Gallery Came Back
3) DHB got benched
4) Shilens came back
To put it all on Jamarcus is short sighted at best. Once Gallery got reinjured we dropped three of our last four games.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:18 am
DMAC Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Dude, Jaskittle sux.
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LOL.
Ok man.
But so does 3/5ths of our Oline and 3/5ths of our WRs, lol.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:18 am
Chaz and JLH have no problem catching his passes. Did you catch the Denver game? How about the Baltimore game? Too bad Henderson could block someone or we might have won the Baltimore game.Neither do Zack Miller, Meyers, or any of the running backs. Of, And Murphy cathces his passes too. Might have something to do with him hanging out with Russell this summer?
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Ive seen murphy drop plenty of ja-off the marcus balls, and he dosen’t even believe in jamarcus, and neither does chaz, nor zach, and why is that??? because he can’t throw. Jamarcus is a bum I hope you’re not trying to make a case for him… I’d find it real backwards if you back russel but bash cable.smh
January 19th, 2010 at 11:19 am
Until we win more than 5 games I say the entire team, from the practice squaders all the way up to the own SUCKS!
January 19th, 2010 at 11:22 am
SD got Norv’d !
LOL. I wonder how many dolt players will elect to leave this offseason?
January 19th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Tom cables pimp hand Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 10:25 am
What the players say matters because at the end of the day like micheal jordan said “its the players who win championships, the owners and all others just pay us”.
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Jordan said that to insult the Bulls’ owner, who everyone hated. That’s all. There’s nothing going on with the Raiders right now where that quote by Jordan could be applied.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:22 am
DMAC Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Same players. I’m done responding to that topic.
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Of course you are, lol!
McFadden got hurt in the Texans game, and we got stuck with Fargas, right or wrong?
Gallery went down in week 2 and didn’t come back until Grads started, right or wrong?
Green was hurt early and Pears and Barnes started in his place, right or wrong?
Who started at RT in the Jets game, lol!
Was JLH hurt or starting early in the season? Who was the QB when JLH started his first game? Chaz?
LOL at your same players argument. You don’t have one on that topic so yeah, you should be done with it.
If Russell is as bad as you say he is, you should be able to make an argument for it without making stuff up, lol!
January 19th, 2010 at 11:22 am
O’line also sux, but at least Grads did’t get his receivers killed played after play. JLH was terrified after that hit he took. Guess who threw the pass? Don’t even ask about Z. Miller in the Redskins game.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:23 am
bcz24 Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 11:19 am
Until we win more than 5 games I say the entire team, from the practice squaders all the way up to the own SUCKS!
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lol. Wel if they’re on the practice squad I could only imagine they would suck.lol And the cheerleaders too, trust me I know one.hahaha Fire head
January 19th, 2010 at 11:23 am
The 3 and half games with Bruce in:
Cincy-20 points, seabass missed a 40 yarder, got the gifts 3 points, but two 80+ yards TD drives. Only game all year we did that.
Dallas-Not a good game. 7 points, not our worst offensive game, but fairly close. Short week, on the road in Dallas
Steelers-Best offensive games all year, best passing game in years, and best 4th quarter EVER
Redskins (half)- 10 points, which at the time, tied our season high for points in the first half.
Why do people say Bruce only had one good quarter? He only had one bad game.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:25 am
You want Cable gone, but you support Russell? Get real!
January 19th, 2010 at 11:26 am
DKnight007 Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Nnamdi Asomougha was on ESPN’s First Take this morning (with the scary bioootch Dana Jacobsen) saying how allowing Cable to return as head coach would give the players much needed continuity (especially on the offensive side of the ball with playbook terminology) and confidence into next season.
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If Nnamdi meant that, he should be cut. Surely he understands that in the NFL going from 5-11 to 5-11 is not acceptable.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Jordan said that to insult the Bulls’ owner, who everyone hated. That’s all. There’s nothing going on with the Raiders right now where that quote by Jordan could be applied.
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Naw my point was players opinions do matter because they’re the ones playing. Somebody said their opinions don’t matter at all like they’re just robots or some ish.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Jamarcus is a bum I hope you’re not trying to make a case for him… I’d find it real backwards if you back russel but bash cable.smh
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What does smh mean?
Tom Cable was worse as an OC than Russell was as a QB, IMO. But I will say they were both awful.
I really don’t blame anyone specific. I saw this coming when Chaz went down in the preseason. I knew Miller and Chaz would be sure targets for Russell that would compliment the running game. Once Chaz, Miller, and Gallery went down, it was already over, IMO. Pears and Barnes at OT?
We all know Russell is no Peyton Manning. The exact way the Jets are playing with Sanchez is how our offense should have been DESIGNED. You even saw Cable forcing the air show when Russell was benched and it STILL didn’t work.
The notion that this team would have done anything weeks 3-9 with a different QB and all the injuries we had is absurd.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:29 am
vegas raider Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Steelers-Best offensive games all year, best passing game in years, and best 4th quarter EVER
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I love Bruce Gradkowski, but if you remember on the game winning drive a Pitt DB dropped a sure INT that was thrown RIGHT to him. Murphy then went up among THREE defenders and brought a very ill advised ball down which NEVER happened with Russell. If neither of those two fluke things happened 99% of you would be cursing Gradkowski just like you all curse Tom Brady and the tuck game.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Vegas, we need an offensive line before we can use Gradkowski. He’s too small and will get killed in our offense. He had a couple of solid games. But look what eventually happened to him? Our offense does not protect quarterbacks. It’s Al’s lowest priority, right down there with cohesiveness, chemistry, and winning.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Yeah…. good idea. Cut the best player on the team. I think we should cut Lechler too… he punts to darn good.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:31 am
DMAC Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 11:25 am
You want Cable gone, but you support Russell? Get real!
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I think I said that I want an Asst Head Coach/Offensive Coordinator!
Damn, can you get anything right?
And I don’t support Russell, the OWNER does!
January 19th, 2010 at 11:31 am
RRS was a blind to incompetence as you are.
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BSJ,
Last 2 seasons
Fargas: 347 carries, 1344 yards & 4 TD’s (3.87 ypc)
McFadden: 217 carries, 856 yards & 5 TD’s (3.94 ypc)
January 19th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Yeah…. good idea. Cut the best player on the team. I think we should cut Lechler too… he punts to darn good.
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Lol and the guy says al is bad.hahahaha smh
January 19th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Cable, Jordan’s comment was a shot across the bow at their owner, nothing more. It was not meant to be a philosophical point on the players’ role in choosing a coach. There’s no application.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:33 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 11:26 am
DKnight007 Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Nnamdi Asomougha was on ESPN’s First Take this morning (with the scary bioootch Dana Jacobsen) saying how allowing Cable to return as head coach would give the players much needed continuity (especially on the offensive side of the ball with playbook terminology) and confidence into next season.
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If Nnamdi meant that, he should be cut. Surely he understands that in the NFL going from 5-11 to 5-11 is not acceptable.
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Yeah…cutting or trading Nnamdi would be another “GENIUS” move by the delusional old man Al.
LOL
January 19th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Russel is the worse qb I’ve ever seen I think, and I swore up and down josh mcClown and his noodle arm was bad.smh
January 19th, 2010 at 11:34 am
BSJ,
Last 2 seasons
Fargas: 27 catches for 165 yards
McFadden: 50 catches for 530 yards
January 19th, 2010 at 11:36 am
bcz24, if Nnamdi Asomugha really thinks that going from 5-11 to 5-11 is “continuity”, I’m convinced he cheated on every quiz in college and is dumber than a rock. That being said, I don’t think he is dumb. I think he’s just playing his cards right, in case Cable does come back. He has nothing to lose by saying something positive, plenty to lose if he bashes Cable due to the possibility of Cable coming back. I don’t think Nnamdi even meant what he said. But if he did, he’s got issues. 5-11 from 5-11 = continuity? On what planet?
January 19th, 2010 at 11:36 am
let’s not forget that Fargas has been in the league 5 years longer than DMC…
January 19th, 2010 at 11:37 am
fumble problems can be corrected.
see Tiki Barber & Adrian Peterson!
January 19th, 2010 at 11:37 am
DKnight, if Nnamdi really thinks going from 5-11 to 5-11 is continuity, he should be shot. Never mind traded.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:38 am
MR,
O-line is Al’s lowest priority? C’mon man. I would have to believe that listening to what you have to say ranks much lower as a priority for Al than the O-line.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Seymour Bush Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 11:29 am
vegas raider Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Steelers-Best offensive games all year, best passing game in years, and best 4th quarter EVER
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I love Bruce Gradkowski, but if you remember on the game winning drive a Pitt DB dropped a sure INT that was thrown RIGHT to him. Murphy then went up among THREE defenders and brought a very ill advised ball down which NEVER happened with Russell. If neither of those two fluke things happened 99% of you would be cursing Gradkowski just like you all curse Tom Brady and the tuck game.
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If he throws a pick on that drive, it still would have been one of our best offensive game all year.
He did catch a few breaks, but he still had the same crappy coach, horrible O-line, inexperienced WR’s and in the games Bruce played, Bush never got carries and it was when Fargas was the feature back.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:39 am
Rockstar,
Adrian Peterson’s fumble-itis has not gone away at all (didn’t he lead the league in fumbles?). Unless you mean Adrian Peterson of the Chicago Bears.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:39 am
I don’t care how good Nnamdi is, nobody that stupid can be productive to a team. Then again, I don’t think his words are genuine, anyway. Think he’s just toeing the company line. But if he does mean that, that keeping Cable would bring “continuity”, considering we haven’t improved one iota under him, then his so called academic background is a sham. I’d be convinced that he’d never even read a book in his life if he thinks that. It’s a stupid as it gets.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:40 am
Cincy game … Grads had 100 yds passing before the last drive, lol. Cmon Vegas. And just thank GOD that Joseph dropped that pick on that last drive that was RIGHT to him, right or wrong.
We both talked about how good the Pittsburgh game was for Cable and Grads. But with that said, didn’t we only have SIX points going into the 4th qtr?
The Washington game? Lol! Grads had 2 big passes to McFadden, but was awful other than that. I’m sure you’ll check the stats. The worst part about the Washington game to me wa Cable’s inability to adjust. Once Washington adjusted a corner to McFadden’s motion, the game was OVER!
January 19th, 2010 at 11:41 am
hire Gilbride!
he’s good with young QB’s and knows how to use more than 1 RB …
plus I doubt he’d settle for scrubs along the o-line like Cable does
January 19th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Cable, Jordan’s comment was a shot across the bow at their owner, nothing more. It was not meant to be a philosophical point on the players’ role in choosing a coach. There’s no application.
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I don’t mean it for choosin a coach in general I was saying players opinions matter. If they don’t like a coach what happens??? You have the shell ordeal, 2 win seasons, and everybody jumpin ship. If a player dosen’t believe in what the coach is sellin the season is at a lost because they have to perform the plays being called. But if you feel it doesn’t apply thats you’re opinnion and I don’t see why you tell me your opinion when I really don’t care. You posted a comment about that post just to tell me you feel it doesn’t apply…
January 19th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Norv got an extension through 2013. No SuperBowls for SD on the horizon.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Adrian Peterson’s fumble-itis has not gone away at all (didn’t he lead the league in fumbles?).
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he fumbled 6 times, losing 5.
does that lead the league?
January 19th, 2010 at 11:43 am
well grads didnt start at the beginning of the season and his recievers were babies os give him a break
January 19th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Cable, Jordan’s comments had nothing to do with players, their role, an owner’s role, anything. He was just dissing their owner. That’s all.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:43 am
The Washington game? Lol! Grads had 2 big passes to McFadden, but was awful other than that. I’m sure you’ll check the stats. The worst part about the Washington game to me wa Cable’s inability to adjust. Once Washington adjusted a corner to McFadden’s motion, the game was OVER
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Grads didn’t have anytime in that game. the redskins D was wearin his jersey.smh
January 19th, 2010 at 11:45 am
i know banana but small minded people say al davis only owner that mkaes mistakes. norv turner worst coach ever since rich kotite but somehow , someway these silly rich old white dudes keep hiring them ,, like lil kiffy boy. what has he ever done other than land a hot wife ?
January 19th, 2010 at 11:46 am
new post new post!
January 19th, 2010 at 11:46 am
i know banana but small minded people say al davis only owner that mkaes mistakes. norv turner worst coach ever since rich kotite but somehow , someway these silly rich old white dudes keep hiring them ,, like lil kiffy boy. what has he ever done other than land a hot wife ?
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manipulate al and destroy tennessee.lol
January 19th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Ole and Sven have a snowmobiling accident, drunker than skunks, both die, and go to Hell.
The Devil observes that they are really enjoying themselves.
He says to them ‘Doesn’t the heat and smoke bother you?’
Ole replies, ‘Vell, ya know, ve’re from nordern Minnesooota, da land of
snow an ice, an ve’re yust happy fer a chance ta varm up a little bit, ya know.’
The devil decides that these two aren’t miserable enough and turns up the heat even more. When he returns to the room of the two from Minnesota, the devil finds them in light jackets and hats, grilling Walleye and drinking beer. The devil is astonished and exclaims, ‘Everyone down here is in misery, and you two seem to be enjoying yourselves?’
Sven replies, ‘Vell, ya know, ve don’t git too much varm veather up
dere at da Falls, so ve’ve yust got ta haff a fish fry vhen da veather’s
dis nice.’
The devil is absolutely furious. He can hardly see straight. Finally he
comes up with the answer. The two guys love the heat because they have been cold all their lives. The devil decides to turn all the heat off. The next morning, the temperature is 60 below zero, icicles are hanging everywhere, and people are shivering so bad that they are unable to wail, moan or gnash their teeth. The devil smiles and heads for the room with Ole and Sven. He gets there and finds them back in their parkas, bomber hats, and mittens. They are jumping up and down, cheering, yelling and screaming like mad men.
The devil is dumbfounded, ‘I don’t understand, when I turn up the
heat you’re happy. Now its freezing cold and you’re still happy. What is wrong with you two?’
They both look at the devil in surprise and say, ‘Vell, don’t ya know, if hell iss froze over, dat must mean da Vikings von da Super Bowl.’
January 19th, 2010 at 11:48 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 11:41 am
hire Gilbride!
he’s good with young QB’s and knows how to use more than 1 RB …
plus I doubt he’d settle for scrubs along the o-line like Cable does
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That’s something I feel some folks are overlooking. Here’s a guy who’s specialty is the O-line and yet the O-line is crap. Playcalling? Please. Commitment to running the ball. Non-existent. Motivator? Maybe, but why all the blowout losses, especially after a W? Working with Al. I’ll give you that but do we have to put up with all his other inefficiencies just because he works well with Al? And if he does work well with Al, why didn’t he convince him that we weren’t ready to be a passing offense?
Seymour said so himself. Bring in some good coaches.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:51 am
jhill Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 11:40 am
The Washington game?
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What most “fans” don’t remember about the Washington game was late in the lst half, we had a 3rd and 12 that Gradkowski “completed” to Murphy. The Raiders then went up and ran another play gaining two yards, only to have the prior play reviewed! I have NEVER seen that before!
The lst down completion was over ruled, forcing the Raiders to punt. On the ensuing punt, Eugene breathed on the Washington returner giving them 15 yards! Fassel jumped onto the playing field, giving Washington ANOTHER 15 yards! The Raiders then completely gave up, giving Washington a late TD and deflating the team. Russell then came in to start the 2nd half to a deafening chorus of boooos, and he was the one given credit for deflating the team. Good one.
January 19th, 2010 at 11:53 am
MR – What dictionary do you read that has “improvement” in the definition of “continuity”?
January 19th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Does anyone think we will pick up McNabb next year if his contract does not pan out? Rumor has it he is already being phased out. He can throw the deep ball and he can set it up as well. What do you think?
January 19th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
If we dump Jamarcus there is a slim possibility we grab McNabb, no way we keep Russell and get McNabb though… no way we could spend almost 20 million next year on QB’s
January 19th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
I doubt the eagles get rid of him… they’d be stupid if they did because they will be in for a rude awakening when that other qb plays a full season, part of that becareful what you wish for type of thing. If he did leave I doubt he’d come to oakland, I could see him in san fran tho with vd, crabtree, gore, and dez bryant. Idk why but I have a feeling if bryants there when they pick the niners wil take bryant with one of their first picks.
January 19th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Im of the opinion that if available, SF takes Tebow in the first round.
January 19th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
If the niners picked tebow first that’d be pretty stupid… So I hope they do it.lol
January 19th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
that ole poo butt jerry aint answer or respond to any of my comments… What a fat slob.smh
January 19th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Post #442 is brilliant. Jhill, you and Priest are about the only two guys that seem to “get it”. I call into Sirius all the time and try to make the same point. Some guys just let themselves get brainwashed by the media. JaMarcus needs to do better, but you can’t ignore the issues with his supporting cast, nor the fact that he was coming along quite nicely before the offseason from hell where we lost Knapp, Schneider and Chaz. Al knows this and he’ll do what’s right regardless of what the talking heads and the blind fans that hang on their words say.