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Jackson does Harbor Bay Parkway

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, January 20th, 2010 at 8:15 pm in Oakland Raiders.

With all the conflicting accounts of another typical offseason for the Raiders, one thing is for sure _ Hue Jackson was in Alameda, talking to team officials.

Assume that Al Davis was among them if you want, but at this point, with all the reports, denials and non-denials, it’s hard to know what’s up with the Raiders.

The Jackson visit, I’m assured, is a lock.

So where does that leave us?

First, Jackson wouldn’t be in the building if he’s not a serious candidate to be something. Since John Herrera said earlier today the Raiders have interviewed no head coaching candidates but have fielded calls from assistants, we’ll assume the reports about him being interviewed as a candidate for offensive coordinator are accurate.

Whether Jackson is under contract or not doesn’t matter much. The Ravens simply deny permission if he’s under contract, or perhaps they’ve already agreed in writing he could leave for a coordinator’s spot. He’s not here unless he’s available to be hired.

Jackson has considerable experience as an offensive coach. He coached running backs for the Redskins in 2001-02, was the Redskins offensive coordinator in 2003, coached wide receivers in Cincinnati from 2004-06 and was offensive coordinator for the Atlanta Falcons in 2007.

With the Falcons, the line coach was Tom Cable. When Jackson was on the staff at Cal in 1996, Cable was the line coach.

Correction: Cable was with the Raiders in 2007. Jackson and Cable worked together only at Cal.

So it’s not a reach to think Jackson could be the new offensive brain-trust on a Cable-coached team. Or that Davis is at least examining the possibility.

In that scenario, if the Raiders were to again stumble out of the gate, Jackson could take over as head coach. But we’re getting ahead of ourselves, as we media-types are prone to do during yearly coaching searches.

As for all the Raiders denials about not talking to Fassel, Trestman, Harbaugh, etc., about the head coaching job?

In their favor is the fact they haven’t operated that way in the past, or at least since they returned to Oakland. The real “interviews” came after the head coach was fired.

On the other hand, every team in the NFL has ways of reaching out to prospective candidates should they dump their coach. That’s not the same as an interview. It’s more along the lines of, “In a hypothetical situation, if we fire our coach, are you interested or not?”

Every team has a front office to do those kinds of things. The Raiders? Not so much. Although it’s not impossible, I’m guessing if Davis wants to gauge the interest of someone like Jim Harbaugh, he calls himself, rather than having Mike Taylor or John Herrera do it.

And even those conversations leave a lot unsaid. Linebackers coach Don Martindale was convinced after a lengthy interview with Davis last season he was under consideration to be the head coach. The Raiders, by way of a Herrera statement after the fact, said he wasn’t.

Jon Gruden said he never remembers even being told he had the job. Lane Kiffin said he and Davis talked and the only thing he was asked is, “Well, do you like us?” Then he was taken away with lawyers to work out a contract.

The Raiders offered the job to Dallas assistant Sean Payton in 2004 and USC assistant coach Steve Sarkisian in 2007, only to flatly deny it when Norv Turner and Kiffin were hired. Even people who work in the building, when their guard is down, will admit as much.

So pick a side to believe and cross your fingers.

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  • Rayda23059

    Ricochet

    noun

    1. the motion of an object or a projectile in rebounding or deflecting one or more times from the surface over which it is passing or against which it hits a glancing blow.

    How fitting. His comments just don’t stick.

  • Seymour Bush

    # Raiders4eve Says:
    January 21st, 2010 at 7:04 pm

    Seymour Bush

    What Richochet is trying to say is very simple. AL mingles with coaches game plan and personal. No Quality meaning a good Coach who has options other then the Raiders would coach this team under AL’s mingling terms, all the coaches you mentioned were given complete authority over their teams, AL runs the show and the coach who comes here understand that and becomes a puppet just like Cable ” We are progressing” yeah right 5-11.
    ===========================================

    Raiders4eve I understand what he is saying, it is just a stupid point. Let me elaborate: when the Phony Whiner job came up last year, there wasn’t a line of marquee coaches out the door for that gig. Why not? The SF ownership is in flux, the stadium is the worst in the league, there are rumours as to where they are going, their ownership is not the most committed to winning. In other words for these marquee coaches to go to a destination, there has to be a lot of things in place for them to go there. Do you think a marquee coach is going to San Diego with AJ Smith there? and their stadium and moving issues? Not likely. In other words we are not alone in that situation and the reality is all final four playoff teams are coached by guys who were assistants on successful teams just a few years before. That seems to be the more realistic approach. Richo-sheeit must want Bobby Bowden or Joe Paterno to come here.

  • Seymour Bush

    Once again, I thought even richo-sheeit could figure out what I was saying. He couldn’t. He wasn’t smart enough.

  • http://www.raiderfans.net Richochet

    # severeraiderz Says:
    January 21st, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    Raiders4eve

    A big name doesn’t make a good coach. There are plenty of good coaches that would come but very few big names.
    ===================
    “very few big names”?? don’t you mean zero big names? Name one..even ONE that would consider it.

    “plenty of good coaches would come”? You mean plenty of good assistant coaches would come, right? Zero GOOD coaches have interviewed and stuck around for the second day. Lots of asst’s couldn’t even be bothered coming to Oakland to interview, such as Peyton, and Whiz.

    As far as a “big name doesn’t make a good coach”??????

    Uh..can you name me someone in the NFL that is a “big name” who ISN’T a good coach?
    Maybe we differ on what a “big name” means.

  • RaiderDebo

    Seymour Bush Says:
    January 21st, 2010 at 5:02 pm
    We do need cornerback help, but I am with Pete that we could probably limp one more year with Routt. Also Branch might be able to play corner in a pinch.
    Once again, I am looking at the excellent Left Tackles in the lst round, but I have to say, McClain might be a very good choice at #8. Everyone will say we took him too high, but what other good ILB is there? Dan Williams will be gone before we choose in the 2nd round, and remember we have 2 third rounders this draft! If Golden Tate was available when we choose in the 2nd round….
    *******************************************************

    I like the idea of McClain too, but you really end up reaching when you draft for need. They’ll create their board of the best players and take the guy who is available.

  • Seymour Bush

    Uh oh, looks like we need to bust out rich-o’s drool rag again. By big name coaches richo-sheeit means Bobby Bowden or Joe Paterno. Some 95 year old guy with a “big” name. He’s right those guys wouldn’t come here.

    As for the rest of the league, they’re all promoting assistants and winning that way. But of course everyone but richo-sheeit seems to know that.

  • RaiderDebo

    To me, Al going to all this trouble to take the offense away from Cable is a bad sign for him. What’s the use in keeping him around if he’s not calling plays? I’d have no problem with Jackson or Harbaugh.

  • Seymour Bush

    RaiderDebo expect Scott Pioli to draft for need right in front of us. I know it is unpopular, but he build some pretty good New England teams that way.

  • jhill

    Where is my man Dogg?

    Gasoft man! Pau Gasoft!

  • Seymour Bush

    Cable got in a bit over his head. Bringing in Hue Jackson would be another guy who’s been in the league awhile he could bounce ideas off, and to take some responsibility from Cable, e.g. playcalling. + Jackson might be able to relate to Russell better than Cable, Tollner and Hackett.

  • jhill

    Only reason “big name” coaches won’t come to Oakland is because Al is not offering 10 million a year.

    Of course no big name coach will come for 3-4 million a year.

  • http://www.raiderfans.net Richochet

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    January 21st, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    Once again, I thought even richo-sheeit could figure out what I was saying. He couldn’t. He wasn’t smart enough.
    ===================
    You got your ass handed to you on a platter. You have others trying to also dumb down the comments so you can grasp it..and all you can state is ‘OH..UH..WE’RE NOT THE ONLY ONES WHO MIGHT HAVE PROBLEMS ATTRACTING A QUALITY HEAD COACH’??

    That’s it? lol…you sorryass joke.

    And San Diego? YOU DUMBASS..they just extended Norv for three more years…geez.
    Snyder? One of the toughest owners to work for? GOT GIBBS TO GO IN THERE..GOT SHANAHAN TO GO IN THERE.

    And SF?? are you serious? lol…oh geez.
    Uh…SHYTT FOR BRAINS? Singletary TOOK OVER DURING THE SEASON, YOU STUPID FOOL..Niners canned Nolan mid season..YOU FOOL. There was no hiring..at the end of the season, the Niners IMMEDIATELY offered Singletary a contract. And you STUPIDLY STATE “There was NO LINE of marquee coaches out the door”? Damn..you’re slow.

    Yep, LMFAO at you going down in flames, moron.

    Go ahead..bring up another team…I’ll torch your sorryass on that..and laugh as I do it.

    Care to bet? Come on, mental deficient tool..think of something, lol..because you’re not doing too well.

  • http://www.raiderfans.net Richochet

    # jhill Says:
    January 21st, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    Only reason “big name” coaches won’t come to Oakland is because Al is not offering 10 million a year.

    Of course no big name coach will come for 3-4 million a year.
    =================
    Oh c’mon..you don’t even want to go there, do you?

    Only reason? Just the money?

    You serious?

  • Seymour Bush

    You’re not torching anyone you idiot. We’re all laughing at you.

  • Seymour Bush

    Why is Cowher not working right now? Why is Jimmy Johnson not working right now? Why is Jon Gruden not working right now? Why is Marty Shottenheimer not working right now? According to rich-o none would come to Oakland. So they are all just sitting down waiting til Al dies.

  • severeraiderz

    Ricochet

    Big names that would come but I don’t want include
    Fassel, Dennis Green, and Gilbride.

    And yes I said good coaches, a good coach isn’t just exclusive to a head coach.

  • RaiderDebo

    Yeah, he did pretty well in New England. But to be honest with you, I think NE’s drafting the last few years has been pretty poor. I think Meriweather (?) is the only guy from his class still in the NFL, and I’m not that impressed with him. Last year, I thought Pioli reached for Tyson Jackson. No way he should have gone that high. It may end of working out, but I’m skeptical. We’re not overly talented at any position so I won’t be upset with any pick as long as he can come in and make plays.

  • Seymour Bush

    # Richochet Says:
    January 21st, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    EVERY THING YOU SAY HERE IS WRONG!!

    And San Diego? YOU DUMBASS..they just extended Norv for three more years…geez.

    THEY HIRED A RETREAD TURNER CAUSE THEY HAD NO ONE ELSE. IT WORKED OUT FOR THEM, AND THEY JUST EXTENDED HIM.

    Snyder? One of the toughest owners to work for? GOT GIBBS TO GO IN THERE..GOT SHANAHAN TO GO IN THERE.
    ————————————————

    GIBBS IS FROM THERE. THINK THAT MAKES SENSE? SHANAHAN HAD NO OTHER OFFERS. HIS DENVER TEAMS WENT STRAIGHT DOWNHILL.

    And SF?? are you serious? lol…oh geez.
    Uh…SHYTT FOR BRAINS? Singletary TOOK OVER DURING THE SEASON, YOU STUPID FOOL..Niners canned Nolan mid season..YOU FOOL. There was no hiring..at the end of the season, the Niners IMMEDIATELY offered Singletary a contract. And you STUPIDLY STATE “There was NO LINE of marquee coaches out the door”? Damn..you’re slow.
    ===============================================
    THE WHINERS NAMED SINGLETARY AN INTERIM COACH FOR THE GAMES AFTER NOLAN. ONCE THE SEASON WAS OVER BILL COWHER COULD HAVE CALLED. HE DIDN’T. WHO WAS BETTER THAN SINGLETARY FOR THEM?? WHO WAS BETTER THAN A GUY WITH ALMOST NO HEAD COACHING EXPERIENCE? NO ONE WAS!

    YOU ARE THE DUMBEST PERSON IN HERE DUDE!

  • Seymour Bush

    RaiderDebo I think you are exactly right, I do believe in drafting to fill needs tho. You have to. But I agree their drafting has been a bit suspect lately. So has San Diegos.

  • jhill

    Yeah Richochet, I do want to go there.

    Al is a cheap bahsturd! If Al wrote an 8 million dollar check and ALLOWED Gruden to come back, he’d be hear in a second.

    If Al paid Dungy “Holmgren” money to be the GM he’d be here in a second.

    Along with any other name you want to come up with.

  • Dude

    No decent coach would come to Oakland. Period. Its not even debateable. The Raiders list of candidates and the rest of the league are entirely different. Only a guy desperate for a job would come to Oakland.

  • http://www.raiderfans.net Richochet

    HERE’s WHY NO QUALITY HEAD COACH WILL EVER COME TO COACH FOR AL DAVIS.

    1. Al hires the assts. has stated only HE hires and fires (See Kiffin/Ryan)
    2. Al, regardless of opinion, still makes head up ass decisions regarding draft.
    3. Al, regardless of what HC wants to do, decides, when he sees fit, who plays, and who sits. (See Norv benching Collins, stating Tui has the last 4 games, where immediately was overruled by Al, where Collins proceeded to lose out those same games)
    4. Al will decide to toss out a whole scheme, on a whim, because he wants the defense or offense to try something different (See Sapp, Gannon, Rice, Brown..LOTS)
    5. Al refuses to accept that he needs help/GM..whatever..and continues to make stupid decisions that hurt the team/organization (See Walker, Kwame, Hall, Wilson, Kelly)
    6. Al refuses to pay his HC’s anywhere near what they are worth (“See EVERYONE)
    7. Al goes public with dirty laundry instead of handling things with class (See OverHeadProjectorGate)
    8. Al stupidly announced to all that he was not just terminating his HC, but wasn’t going to pay him HIS CONTRACT, STATING JUST CAUSE..which tells every quality candidate that the contract they sign might just be voided, for one of the owners demented reasons, that could end him in court for years to recoup.
    9. Al is known for calling down from the box, to call in a play (See Gruden, flipping off Al up in his box, after one of many calls. See Sapp stating “We’re going deep. The phone from Al just rang.)
    10. Al is known for his little spies that he puts in that run to Al tattling (See Shell/Lombardi. See Cable/Hanson)

    There is more..but..I think an even 10 IS ENOUGH.
    Anyone of those would keep many QUALITY head coaches away.
    All of those?

    IT’S NOW KEEPING THE WHIZ’S, THE PEYTON’S..ETC..AWAY.

  • http://www.mrc.org Simon

    fyi the following coaches are no longer on the Raiders website….
    Bert Leone Quality Control, Defense
    Aaron Pelch Assistant Special Teams
    Rich Scangarello Quality Control, Offense

  • Raiders4eve

    Personally and you guys will remember what I am saying, B. Spikes is better than McClain. He is true leader, solid against the run, played in SEC and I think he is the best MLB in this draft. Besides I doubt AL would pick either of them, but if I had choice I would trade down and pick Spikes. My two guys who I see can make a difference in this defense are B Spikes from Florida and fatso Terrence Cody, from Alabama. I see those two players as Haloti Ngata and Ray Lewis combo. Yes I know fatso lacks the athleticism but he can play football, he plays well against the run and helps the offense in the goal line. I hope AL picks them both.

  • http://http://www.mensa.org/ Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine

    we do need cornerback help… but not right away…

    what we do need right away are linebackers…

    a lot of them ’cause just about all of the ones we have are about to be free agents…

    so…

    1st round… McClain…

    2nd round… Dan Williams…

    3rd round… Micah Johnson…

  • http://www.raiderfans.net Richochet

    # jhill Says:
    January 21st, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    Yeah Richochet, I do want to go there.

    Al is a cheap bahsturd! If Al wrote an 8 million dollar check and ALLOWED Gruden to come back, he’d be hear in a second.

    If Al paid Dungy “Holmgren” money to be the GM he’d be here in a second.

    Along with any other name you want to come up with.
    ===========
    NO WAY IN HELL
    Holmgren?
    Dungy?
    going to put up with that list I just posted??

    NO WAY IN HELL.

    You’re assuming..you have NO IDEA if that’s an option, because you’re playing the safe card with the IF HE PAID 10 MILLION..well..many of those coaches that walked/ignored the job hadn’t even been given an offer.

    Money and control was obvious with Gruden..but saying anyone would forsake that above list for the money?
    Wrong.

  • Raiders4eve

    Jhill

    If AL is willing to pay 8 mill or more to a coach or GM, that means he is conceding his authority. He will no longer have a say on personal or game plan philosophy. AL wants puppets as coaches just like Richochet mentioned, no quality coaches comes here because AL is a control freak.

  • Dude

    4eve,

    All the things you said about Spikes are also true with McClain except that McClain is more than solid against the run.

  • Seymour Bush

    Hey Moron, as I wrote earlier, you have an extreme tight grasp of the obvious. Tell us something we don;t know. So, Sean Peyton or Bill Cowher are not coming here. Are other good solid coaches willing to come here? Well, Norv Turner just finished 12-4, Jon Gruden would come back, Lane Kiffin just got hired at SC. What do you think?

  • Dude

    Jon Gruden would come back?? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Trade DMAC for a puppet!

  • http://www.mrc.org Simon

    al get your pants off the ground. Make a decision you jerk.

  • severeraiderz

    Ricochet
    your argument is very flawed, especially since we know for sure that Gruden would come and that we had Sean Payton hired before JJ intervened. I mean we could hire any number of guys, but that doesn’t make them a good choice. How many guys do u think would have taken the Indy job, but for continuity sake they kept a GOOD coach that happened to be an assistant and promoted him. You probably thought Caldwell was a bad hire. How many in here thought Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh was a good hire or Mike Smith in Atl? Who knew how good Sporano was before Parcells hired him in Miami?

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Al is not stupid enough to want Gruden back. He flamed in Tampa, and is overrated.

  • http://http://www.mensa.org/ Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine

    Seymour Bush, it could be said that Norv Turner hired before Al Davis was deemed completely insane. Besides, Turner had already been fired and wasn’t exactly in high demand. Gruden, is most likely blowing smoke since he knows Davis most likely wouldn’t hire him back. Plus, it is doubtful Gruden would coach the Raiders under current conditions, as Gannon stated. Kiffin? USC was just desperate.

  • http://www.mrc.org Simon

    Hey Jmac how come no word on these coaches that are no longer listed on the Raiders site?

    Bert Leone Quality Control, Defense
    Aaron Pelch Assistant Special Teams
    Rich Scangarello Quality Control, Offense

  • http://http://www.mensa.org/ Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine

    Bert Leone, Aaron Pelch, Rich Scangarello, those guys sound like interns.

  • jhill

    Al is the GM!

    Did Carroll and Shanny Rat get to pick their whole staff? No hangovers? How about Buffalo?

    Well outside of DHB and Mike Mitchell, Russell, Gallery, Huff, and DMAC were not bad picks at the time they were made. Easy to go Monday morning QB on us.

    You mean like The Titans owner told Fisher to play Vince Young? (side note: can’t believe he made the Pro Bowl!).

    Only person I’ve heard say that is Sapp. No argument that Ryan was a puppet. Marshall sure seems to be mixing it up though.

    Or it just goes back to he needs to fork over the cash and hire a better coach. Kiffin and Cable picked those players!

    The rest sound like personal issues you have against the owner or are lumped in to the whole Kiffin thing. Kiffin shouldn’t have acted like a spoiled brat. So Al told him NO you can’t bring your daddy here. Play out the year and hire someone else when Ryan’s contract is up instead quitting and trying to get fired.

  • http://http://www.mensa.org/ Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine

    Simon, Raiders.com also has Willie Brown still listed even though he retired. I wouldn’t take too much stock in that.

  • http://http://www.mensa.org/ Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine

    Zack Crocket is a scout.

  • RaiderDebo

    Seymour, I

    I totally agree with you about Jackson and Russell. I heard Greg Ellis on the raido say he doesn’t think JaMarcus and Cable can coexist. Maybe Jackson can solve that. Here’s my problem: I think we had a good setup in 2008 with Cable, Knapp and Russell. Knapp and Russell were joined at the hip on the sidelines and things really seemed to be progressing. The last two games of the year, we really looked like a good team. Then we quietly had one of the worst offseasons ever when Knapp left for Seattle and Schneider left for USC, we cut Jusitin Miller and Chaz got hurt. That day our passing game and kick/punt return game went right down the drain. I’ve always wondered why we couldnt retain those coaches. I’m assuming since Cable didn’t know for sure that he had the job, he had a tough time convincing those guys to stay, so that would be on Al. Whoever’s fault that was, it really set this team back. Hopefully, bringing a guy like Jackson on board can get this offense headed back in the right direction.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Knapp is a bum. That said, trade DMAC for Greg Knapp!

  • http://http://www.mensa.org/ Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine

    I never thought I would hear a football song lamer than San Diego Super Chargers, but hear it is by Prince:

    http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/dpp/sports/prince-reveals-song-for-vikings-saints-game

  • RaiderDebo

    Screw Bill Cowher anyway. His claim to fame is that he had a job NOBODY gets fired from. I should hope he won ONE Superbowl in what, 15 years???? When he coached there, Pittsburgh was the was the No. 1 choice of any coach who had to take his team on the road to win a playoff game. I couldn’t care less if that guy doesn’t want to come here.

  • http://http://www.mensa.org/ Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine

    I never though I would read a blog post dumber than the ones I have seen in here, but here it is compliments of PFT, regarding Jim Harbaugh rumors:

    jreed says:
    January 21, 2010 8:22 PM
    Jim Harbaugh leaving Baltimore does not make any scene to me. He just got to B-more and has made himself a pretty good football team. Why would he turn around and start from scratch and rebuild the Raiders? Esp when we all know that Skeletor wont give him any freedom with the team!

  • http://http://www.mensa.org/ Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine

    I stand corrected RaiderDebo. Your previous post may be even stupider.

  • jhill

    Did Mike Tomlin get to hire his own staff? Wonder what he’s making? Wonder if he has much say so in who got drafted?

  • armond

    hue jackson will also help dmc become a factor by giving him the ball along with bush. cable never made it a point to get dmc the ball nearly enuff. the argument to keep cable is weak. take russell out the mix and there hasnt been real progession by any of our young offensive guys. miller been solid from day 1 but every1else has been spotty. i have a hard time believing that a qualified oc couldnt get more out these guys than mr 4 verticals has.

  • armond

    wassup jizzie!!!!!! none of these coaches picks all of there staff just like they dont get to pick all of the players, the gm’s do that. coaches get paid to coach and anything more is a bonus.there wouldnt be any use for a gm if the coach did everything. fisher gets credit for being tough but bud adams slapped that azz when he wanted to see vince young play. owners hire the gm and the gm hires the coach. understanding all that why would any coach have complete say over anything? u know it really aint worth arguin with people over that j.

  • jhill

    I bet you in Al’s mind, Gruden and Gannon cost him another SB win which is why they are not allowed in the building.

    LMFAO!