Lots of Raiders coaching rumors floating around
By Jon Becker
Wednesday, January 20th, 2010 at 1:37 am in Oakland Raiders.
Another day, another deluge of Raiders rumors.
While there’s no definitive word coming out of Raiders’ headquarters about head coach Tom Cable’s status, there’s a report that Al Davis is already interviewing potential replacements for Cable’s job.
The San Francisco Chronicle reported both Jim Fassel and Marc Trestman, a pair of former Raiders assistants, have talked with Davis about becoming the Raiders’ next head coach. Another thing both Fassel and Trestman have in common is they’re coming off championship seasons — Fassel coached Las Vegas to the inaugural United Football League championship and Trestman’s Montreal Alouettes won the Canadian Football League title.
Meanwhile, ESPN reported the Raiders have asked for and received permission to talk with Baltimore Ravens quarterbacks coach Hue Jackson. It’s not clear what position Jackson will be interviewing for, though it’s possible it would be as offensive coordinator — either taking the reins from Cable or running the offense for the new coach.
Connecting the coaching dots, Jackson served three seasons as USC’s offensive coordinator under then-Trojans head coach Paul Hackett from 1998-2000. Hackett is the Raiders’ current quarterbacks coach. Jackson also spent the 1996 season as Cal’s offensive coordinator, where one of his co-coaches was Cable, then the Golden Bears’ offensive line coach.
The 44-year-old Jackson enjoyed his greatest NFL success as the Cincinnati Bengals’ receivers coach (2004-06), where he received a lot of credit for developing Chad Ochocinco (er, Johnson) and T.J. Houshmandzadeh into top-flight receivers. That’s a skill that could potentially serve him well in Oakland, where last year’s No. 1 pick, Darrius Heyward-Bey, had a disappointing season.
Jackson has been second-year Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco’s only quarterbacks coach. However, Jackson has received some criticism for not elevating Flacco’s game this season.
Finally, NFL.com first reported that ex-Raiders defensive line coach Mike Waufle will interview for that same position with Oakland. Currently, Dwaine Board is listed as the Raiders’ defensive line coach.
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January 20th, 2010 at 1:59 am
If Al fires Cable only to replace him with someone who could have had the job 3-4 years ago I will not renew my season tickets.
January 20th, 2010 at 2:33 am
We could use a receivers coach who could work with J marc too…
Art least Al’s looking at options. I still think Cable stays…
January 20th, 2010 at 2:44 am
Good Morning!!!!
Working early today Jon? good job!!!!!!!!!!!
January 20th, 2010 at 3:55 am
Jackson sounds promising, especially with that note regarding helping the Bengals WR’s corps…..
January 20th, 2010 at 4:06 am
Trestman should be the guy…
he’s earned it… and is ready to step up…
January 20th, 2010 at 4:41 am
cable should be retained. the qb coach from baltimore would be a great addition to the staff tho, either as WR coach or OC. the fact that he worked with cable at cal makes me personally believe cable could be staying. seems these names floating around have at one point or another, been around cable.
January 20th, 2010 at 4:54 am
There’s 2 possiblities on what’s going on here:
1. That Cable is looking at both options.
a. He’s looking to see who could come in at Offensive Coordinator (i.e. QB coach Ravens) while
b. At the same time he’s looking at Fassell and Trestman to see the interest in becoming a Head Coach.
Or…..
2. All of these are being interviewed in the looks to be HC or Offensive Coordinator. Notice Fassell, Trestman offensive coaches coaching in lower leagues that MIGHT take an Offensive Coordinator job.
So, unfortunately this means it could go either way. But notice one thing which may be an indicator….he’s not looking at Gilbride yet (who is currently OffensiveCoordinator Giants and wouldn’t take OC job here) or anyone else that couldn’t be put as OC or HC.
January 20th, 2010 at 5:01 am
morning you westcoasters…
January 20th, 2010 at 5:08 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
Nnamdi and Priest, I agree with everything you say wholeheartedly except for one thing. I really think Cable should go. Lane Kiffen annoyed the hell out of me with his public feuding with AD, but the one thing I liked about him was his public support of JaMarcus. Regardless of whether or not he wanted to draft him, I think JaMarcus won him over and anytime the camera was on, he always backed him. Cable, on the other hand, always stops short of supporting him. I always get the feeling that Cable uses JaMarcus’ struggles to mask his deficiencies and somehow keep his job. Benching him when Chaz and Gallery came back turned me against him. He looked pissed when they won the Denver game and I couldn’t believe that “we could have made the playoffs without JaMarcus” garbage. Can you imagine John Fox saying that about Jake Delhomme? It was classless and unacceptable for any head coach in this league. I want a head coach in here that doesn’t make excuses and is ready to get the most out of JR
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Maybe Cable is calling them like he see’s ‘em
January 20th, 2010 at 5:13 am
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January 20th, 2010 at 5:15 am
Yeah. I don’t think Kiffen liked him any more than Cable does.
Can’t say I blame Cable. I think he actually was nicer than he should’ve been. He just said that with above average QB play we could’ve made the playoffs. Wasn’t it obvious to you that our QB play was not above average? It’s not even saying it couldn’t be done with Jamarcus.
January 20th, 2010 at 5:16 am
I’ve never heard Cable actually say that Jamarcus is a lost cause (even though I do feel that way). The only “bad” thing he’s said was inferring that Jamarcus should apply himself more to improving. Even when he came in overweight and out of shape and did HORRIBLE early in the year Cable didn’t overly criticize him.
January 20th, 2010 at 5:17 am
Hue Jackson as Offensive Coordinator. Sounds good to me.
January 20th, 2010 at 5:30 am
Well,I’ve said B4 that imo Cable “saved” #2’s career by pulling him the way he did.#2 was waay overwhelmed at this point,you could see that he had lost his confidence and the confidence of his teammates.Tom Cable gave Jamarcus Russell the wake-up call he needed.That was some tough-love from Cable but he had to do it.
I really hope its a open competition 4 QB….But there is no defending #2 and his actions,imo
January 20th, 2010 at 5:38 am
I get very frustrated with the whole “jamarcus should be applying himself more” line from Cable. I’ve wondered all along just exactly what it is he’s NOT doing. In his press conference after the Ravens game, the media really tried to drill down deeper into what Cable means by that and he continued to be vague. To me, it looked like he was just trying to justify his record and get the media behind him in his bid for another season. As far as I know, JaMaracus was around all summer. He was there for a QB school BEFORE the voluntary minicamp and was there for the mandatory minicamp and all of training camp. The guy had offseason ankle surgery which could have had something to do with his conditioning, but I even heard Cable say that he was doing a great job getting back in shape. The whole “JaMarcus doesn’t care” bit is so tired. It’s been repeated so much by the media that everyone just assumes it’s true. Where’s the evidence? I’d rather look at the thing I look at with any struggling quarterback: THE SUPPORTING CAST!
January 20th, 2010 at 5:45 am
Hue Jackson… give me a break! We don’t need an OC from the Ravens…Not exactly a barn burning point scoring machine out there in Baltimore. Yeah there offense was better but that team is still about there defense. Joe Flaco is so over rated! Former receiver coach… helped build the Bengals receivers… his knowlege didn’t spill over to the Ravens receiving core cause they sucked! Fassell sucks as an OC LAST JOB GOT FIRED DURING THE SEASON IN BALTIMORE! I could deal with Trestman as OC. I HATE hearing that AL is interviewing coaches especially if he fires Cable and hires a neww coaching for a new head coach. He’s such a loser… the guy is OLD and obviously lost most of his mind.
January 20th, 2010 at 5:47 am
normally, i don’t post super long, ridiculoous posts…
but i’m in a ridiculous mood… that is i feel like ridiculing the Raider’s floundering around with untried, unproven coaches… looking for the next big thing…
this guy has the resume… has made his bones… and is clearly ready to step up to the next level…
he has already been OC for several winning teams… he doesn’t need to be an OC again… it’s time to let him be what he should be: an NFL Head Coach…
from: http://www.allcoachnetwork.com/trestman/bio.html
On Dec. 18, 2007 Marc Trestman became the new head coach of the Montreal Alouettes.
Trestman began his coaching career in 1981 for the University of Miami while attending law school. In ‘83, after passing the Florida Bar exam, he was named the Hurricanes quarterbacks coach. Miami won the National Championship that year defeating the University of Nebraska 31-30 in the Orange Bowl, which went down as one of college football’s greatest games. Redshirt freshman quarterback Bernie Kosar threw for 2,329 yards that season and was the Orange Bowl MVP. A year later Kosar set school records for pass completions with 262, passing yards with 3,643, and 25 touchdowns.
In 1985, Bud Grant came out of retirement and hired Marc to his first appointment in the National Football League with the Minnesota Vikings. Four years later Marc was named the offensive coordinator of the Cleveland Browns, reuniting him with Kosar. Under the tutelage of Trestman, Kosar led the Browns to the AFC central championship and to the AFC title game. Kosar passed for 3,533 yards and 18 TDs in ‘89, and wide receiver Webster Slaughter set a franchise record with 1,236 receiving yards.
In January of 1995, after leaving the game for 3 years, Marc was hired by Super Bowl winning coach George Seifert to become the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach of the San Francisco 49’ers. Seifert asked Marc to forget all he knew about the game and learn the “west coast offense”, and to teach it as Mike Holmgren, Mike Shanahan, Bill Walsh had done before him.
In Trestman’s first season with the then defending Super Bowl champions, the 49ers were ranked 1st in the NFL with 457 points scored, 644 pass attempts, and 4,779 passing yards. They also ranked second with 391.1 total yards per game. Legendary wide receiver Jerry Rice set an NFL record that still stands with 1,848 yards receiving on 122 catches, scoring 15 touchdowns along the way. Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young made the Pro Bowl after throwing for 3,200 yards and 20 touchdowns.
At the end of the ‘96 season, the 49er offense finished #2 in passing and #6 overall. The 49ers won 12 regular season games, Young again had a Pro Bowl season leading the league in passing efficiency, and Rice had 108 catches en route to yet another trip to Hawaii.
Bobby Ross hired Marc to be the Detroit Lions quarterbacks coach in 1997. With Scott Mitchell at quarterback, the Lions passed for 3,484 yards that season, second most in team history. Tailback Barry Sanders rushed for 2,053 yards, third most ever in NFL history.
In 1998 Marc left the Lions for the Arizona Cardinals to become their offensive coordinator. The Cardinals, who averaged five wins a year the previous decade, won nine games and scored 325 points in 1998. Quarterback Jake Plummer passed for 3,737 yards and the Cardinals made the playoffs for the first time since 1982, winning their first postseason game in 51 years.
In 2001, Jon Gruden brought Trestman to the bay area, becoming the Oakland Raiders senior offensive assistant. Gruden left for Tampa Bay in 2002, and new Raiders head man Bill Callahan retained Marc, promoting him to offensive coordinator. The 2002 Raiders led the NFL in total offense with 389.8 yards per game and passing yards with 279.7. Rich Gannon completed 418 out of 618 pass attempts (67.6 percent). Gannon had 10 games of 300 or more passing yards, and at one point completed 21 consecutive passes in a game. The Raiders became the first team in league history to win a game by throwing more than 60 passes (65 versus Pittsburgh) and running 60 times (60 carries versus Kansas City). That year, the Raiders had three players with more than 90 catches — Rice (106), Charlie Garner (108) and Tim Brown (94).
With the Raiders 1st Super Bowl appearance in 20 years, Marc had then coordinated 4 different NFL teams to the playoffs in his first season with each club. The Raiders led the league with 450 points that season, and outscored their opponents by 144 points.
Marc left the NFL in 2004 to move his family to Raleigh, and become the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at North Carolina State University. Back in college football for the first time since 1984, Marc contributed to Wolfpack squad that won 5 of their last 6 games. They secured a bowl bid where NC State defeated the University of South Florida in the Meineke Car Care Bowl.
At the conclusion of the 2006 season, Chuck Amato and his staff were let go at North Carolina State. Marc decided to remain in Raleigh for the year, where he has made numerous appearances on the NFL Network, Sirius NFL Radio, and many other media outlets across the country. He also has spent time teaching at football clinics, working out quarterbacks, speaking to businesses, and spending quality time with family.
January 20th, 2010 at 5:47 am
4evaRaider Says:
January 20th, 2010 at 5:08 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 19th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
Nnamdi and Priest, I agree with everything you say wholeheartedly except for one thing. I really think Cable should go. Lane Kiffen annoyed the hell out of me with his public feuding with AD, but the one thing I liked about him was his public support of JaMarcus. Regardless of whether or not he wanted to draft him, I think JaMarcus won him over and anytime the camera was on, he always backed him. Cable, on the other hand, always stops short of supporting him. I always get the feeling that Cable uses JaMarcus’ struggles to mask his deficiencies and somehow keep his job. Benching him when Chaz and Gallery came back turned me against him. He looked pissed when they won the Denver game and I couldn’t believe that “we could have made the playoffs without JaMarcus” garbage. Can you imagine John Fox saying that about Jake Delhomme? It was classless and unacceptable for any head coach in this league. I want a head coach in here that doesn’t make excuses and is ready to get the most out of JR
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Maybe Cable is calling them like he see’s ‘em
I have absolutely no problem with Cable “calling them like he see’s ‘em”. But that’s behind closed doors. In front of the media, you close ranks and back each other no matter what. That’s what you see all the good teams do. Especially when criticisim is raining down like it is. That’s where you build trust with the players. I’m sure JaMarcus doesn’t trust him and if I’m Al Davis, I have a real problem with that. Oh and by the way, how about #2 saiving Cable’s job at the end of last season when he delivered the last two-game winning streak we’ve had in the last three years?
January 20th, 2010 at 5:48 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, 4EVA, L M N,ALL THE USUAL SUSPECT’S..IF RUSSELL IS / WAS CONCERN’D ABOUT HIS FUTURE IN FOOTBALL AND WITH THE OAKLAND RAIDER’S, HE WOULD HAVE NEVER LEFT ALAMEDA.HE WOULD BE WORKING HIS AZZ OFF AT THE FACILITY THRUUGHOUT THE OFF SEASON TRY’N 2 FIND HIS GAME AND GET HIS TEAMMATES ON HIS SIDE.
January 20th, 2010 at 5:51 am
When a QB,any QB, throws the ball where its not supposed to be,or when a QB can’t deliver the ball to a receiver either by throwing the ball in the dirt or 10 over head,that QB has NOT put in the determined amount of work each individual QB needs to put in to be successful or even a average QB.
Cable said he was able to pen the book for Grads,meaning #2 prolly hasnt made it past page 1.I’m not implying that #2 is dumb….no one can be this dumb so that leaves a LACK of Work on #2’s part.It was soo obvious that everyone see’s it.
Maybe #2 comes into this camp with that “coach has his foot in my azz attitude”.
#2 isnt dumb,he just lazy and it brings everyone down.His teammates worked their azzes off and they KNOW he didnt so his OWN teammates say fukk him,and rightfully so
January 20th, 2010 at 5:54 am
NICE POST 4EVA #20..
January 20th, 2010 at 5:56 am
I guess one hand washes the other RaiderDebo =)
January 20th, 2010 at 5:57 am
WELLLL thankx Dirt-Lot and Good Morning 2 Ya !
January 20th, 2010 at 5:58 am
Name one of his teammates that said “fukk him”. Brings everyone down??? What is this, third grade??? These guys are getting paid damn good money. Everyone has to go out there and do their job. I don’t see JaMaracus pointing fingers at the offensive line or calling out struggling rookie receivers. He just goes to work. This guy has the mental and physical toughness that you look for. He has shown the abiliity to bounce back and win games for us in the clutch. For a player as young as he is those are great things to build on. Raider fans should be excited.
January 20th, 2010 at 5:59 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Hmmm…Trestman and Fassel again in the rumorville, huh? Well…come on Al…make that decision already!!!
January 20th, 2010 at 6:00 am
when Callahan was tossed… that’s when Trestman should have been allowed to take over…
January 20th, 2010 at 6:01 am
LOOK’S LIKE ALL THE GREAT POLITICAL MIND’S OF OUR TIME (OR ON THIS BLOG ANYWAY)WERE ON HERE LAST NIGHT. GLAD I MISSED IT…
January 20th, 2010 at 6:02 am
Why would any self-respecting and qualified potential HC ever come to work as an OC under the Cable Guy? They wouldn’t. Demote or boot TC for an upgrade.
Florida Pete,
I’d prefer Mariucci (Cal prejudice here), but your expose on Trestman, well, I’m convinced.
4eva,
as WR coach you too can put a boot up #2’s arse to get him up his game.
January 20th, 2010 at 6:03 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 20th, 2010 at 5:58 am
Name one of his teammates that said “fukk him”. Brings everyone down??? What is this, third grade??? These guys are getting paid damn good money. Everyone has to go out there and do their job. I don’t see JaMaracus pointing fingers at the offensive line or calling out struggling rookie receivers. He just goes to work. This guy has the mental and physical toughness that you look for. He has shown the abiliity to bounce back and win games for us in the clutch. For a player as young as he is those are great things to build on. Raider fans should be excited.
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are you kidding ???
he blamed everyone but himself…
January 20th, 2010 at 6:04 am
tag Jon Condo!
January 20th, 2010 at 6:05 am
what makes Condo a pro-bowler is the fact that nobody has ever heard of him…
(and that’s a good thing)…
January 20th, 2010 at 6:06 am
Thankx M….Believe me I will!
January 20th, 2010 at 6:06 am
TRUE RAIDERDEBO,THE RAIDER’S DEFINITLY NEED 2 GIVE THE MAN SOME HELP / PROTECTION 4 SURE.
January 20th, 2010 at 6:06 am
I was hoping we’d name Mike Waufle Def. Coordinator last offseason!
I don’t think Board is a bad DL coach though. We just don’t have the talent there …
bring in Hue Jackson too!
January 20th, 2010 at 6:06 am
RaiderDebo,
I guess you missed the part where JRuss took his verbal backhand swipe at both the wide receiving corps and the offensive line because they were making plays for Gradkowski whereas they let King Elexis down.
January 20th, 2010 at 6:06 am
Thanks Pete! He came back to win ONE game…and the D let him down on the other….but in that SD game…it did not have to come down to the D stopping them. If Russell was accurate…we would have blown away the Chargers!
January 20th, 2010 at 6:07 am
Raiderdebo,
Just read a few of your posts including the last one regarding Russell. All I can say is WOW!! How do you even make it through the day being so dillusional? Hopefully you dont live anywhere near me sos I dont have to worry.
January 20th, 2010 at 6:09 am
Oh Yeah….Congratulations Jon Condo!
January 20th, 2010 at 6:09 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 20th, 2010 at 5:58 am
Name one of his teammates that said “fukk him”. Brings everyone down??? What is this, third grade??? These guys are getting paid damn good money. Everyone has to go out there and do their job
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Uhhh….didn’t Jamarcus NOT do his job during the off-season and middle of the week? He let his backup’s out work him.
And while Chaz didn’t say exactly, “fukk him”, his “no comment” and roll of his eyes when asked about Jamarcus after the last game was pretty close.
January 20th, 2010 at 6:10 am
sad day to be a Raider fan when all you can hang your hat on is the play of Seabass, Shane & Jon on ST!
January 20th, 2010 at 6:13 am
I’m sure Cornbread wasnt inviting him over for cookies-n-milk during that one “conversation”
January 20th, 2010 at 6:13 am
Lonetree,
I did miss the swipe. But I do remember him RESPONDING to a question from a reporter about what was different about the Pitt game. I saw him say that the the receivers were making more plays which is the absolute truth! But it wasn’t a swipe. He just answered a question. I took it as a compliment to those guys. And I’ve never heard him say a word about the protectection he’s received. In fact, I’ve heard him say he could have gotten the ball out quicker. There’s no question in my mind that this is a “team” guy.
January 20th, 2010 at 6:14 am
will Zach Miller being playing in Miami on 01/31 ?
I hope so. Go Colts!
January 20th, 2010 at 6:16 am
Debo,
Please tell me you are joking. The only thing about Russell thats “team” is the fact that the team sends him a paycheck every 2 weeks. Period
January 20th, 2010 at 6:18 am
I don’t see JaMaracus pointing fingers at the offensive line or calling out struggling rookie receivers. He just goes to work. This guy has the mental and physical toughness that you look for. He has shown the abiliity to bounce back and win games for us in the clutch. For a player as young as he is those are great things to build on. Raider fans should be excited.
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I forget the week, but I remember Jamarcus calling out the receivers for not being where they are suppose to be. What toughness? The guy fumbles whenever someone breathes on him.
January 20th, 2010 at 6:18 am
Q: Do you consider yourself QB of future?
Russell: No doubt. That hasn’t changed in my mind at all.
Q: Would you be open to compete for starting job next year?
Russell: I will work my butt off to be that guy.
Q: But if they ask you to rework your deal?
Russell: Oh, no. That’s over and done with. I don’t even consider that as a part of it.
January 20th, 2010 at 6:19 am
Q: Do you expect an open competition next year?
Russell: Uh, I’m not sure. If that’s the road they want to take, then, hey, we have to go out and fight our butts off to be that guy.
Q: Anything you want to accomplish in the offseason?
Russell: “Work hard, that’s all the time. You got to do that on your own. That’s going to be part of the workout plan anyway.”
Q: Are your weight and work ethic not an issue, it’s just the on-field performance?
Russell: Yeah, that’s about it.
Q: How would you grade yourself this season?
Russell: Uh, kind of hard because there was times where you try to get guys a chance to make plays and at the early part of the year, it wasn’t happening. So, the quarterback job, I say he looks for more help around from everybody because he can’t do it himself. It wasn’t so well but at times it was. When we look at film, it don’t be as bad as it seems on the field always.
January 20th, 2010 at 6:20 am
Q: What are people going to see when you hit the field again?
Russell: A totally different JaMarcus. People going to have their opinion, and I really don’t pay too much attention to that. I worry about JaMarcus and JaMarcus only.
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LOL!!!
January 20th, 2010 at 6:20 am
RaiderDebo
I do think that starting 2 rookie wr’s certainly didn’t make it any easier for JR BUT
ankle surgery or not, if JR cared he would have came in to camp in shape BUT if he for some unknown reason couldn’t, if he cared he would have gotten in to shape as the season progressed
BUT, whether he cares or not, the bottom line is he is not equiped at this point to be an NFL QB and from what I have seen I do not think he will EVER be equiped to be an NFL QB.
He is obviously not comfortable being a leader AND it doesn’t appear that he even knows what a good leader is. Whether it is your fault or not, when your team does poorly, you accept the blame. That is what a good leader does. YOU DO NOT POINT FINGERS. A good leader sets a good example with film study, work ethic and making sure you are mentally and physically prepared for each and every contest.
With one of the better QB coaches out there you would think that if JR was someone who could be a NFL QB, he would be coachable. ie: not locking on to his primary receiver the moment he receives the hike.
You would expect from a leader a desire so strong to be great that he would never accept from himself poor play. He would practice until he got it. It seems as though he doesn’t have the ability to learn from mistakes.
His standards are too low. For him to come out after a poor performance and state that he thought he played a good game, well, I guess that would be the main thing. If he truly thinks he is playing well then that would decrease his desire to improve. Even if his coach is telling him he played well he should care enough to go and watch the game film, to analyze his play, to figure out what he could do better next time and he should be able to see that he has issues. Poor accuracy, poor pocket awareness.
AND, if it is a timing issue or poor route running by his receivers, the only way that will get corrected is if he and his receivers PRACTICE_- PRACTICE- PRACTICE.
I think the bottom line is that he is not intelligent enough to realize what it takes to be a leader and QB in the NFL.
I will say that his circumstances have not been close to ideal. Much instability for a young QB to have to go through, young receivers, poor offensive line play.
But a leader pushes through tough times and it is how you react to problems that is the true measure of a winner. I think that paints the truest picture of what Jamarcus is, the way he has handled this adversity. Certainly not like a leader or winner.
January 20th, 2010 at 6:23 am
that Q&A was courtesy of Jerry Mac on 12/10/09
January 20th, 2010 at 6:23 am
49…good post!
January 20th, 2010 at 6:25 am
ROCKSTAR, A LOT OF “THEY’S” AND “WE’S” IN THAT INTERVIEW,
January 20th, 2010 at 6:25 am
a good game for JaMarcus:
12/24, 150 yards, TD
no turnovers
January 20th, 2010 at 6:25 am
you know, if indi makes it to teh superbowl, that’ll make 4 pro bowlers with the addition of zach miller. i’d have to believe that having pro bowl selections will confirm davis’s belief that there is in fact enough talent on the team as is and that they just need proper coaching. ugg, i’m not looking forward to big al becoming even more difficult to deal with. oh joy…
January 20th, 2010 at 6:28 am
crister: plus Gallery was hurt 3/4 of the year and Seabass got shunned.
almost could be 6 Pro Bowlers
January 20th, 2010 at 6:31 am
yep #49 good post!
January 20th, 2010 at 6:33 am
since Gradkowski is a RFA I bet Al will put the same 2nd round tender on him and pay him $1.5 million for 1 year of service like he did with LB Ricky Brown last year … no team will match or up that offer
January 20th, 2010 at 6:33 am
Judge, I don’t even know where to start. Let me just say this: if you don’t think JaMarcus Russell is a winner, look at his pedigree. He’s been a winner his whole life. And I think you’re really understating the importance of a strong supporting cast. Mark Sanchez threw 20 interceptions, yet his team will be playing for the AGC Championship on Sunday. Why is that?
January 20th, 2010 at 6:35 am
JaMardiGras and McFelldown need to be fired for cause and escorted from the property.
January 20th, 2010 at 6:35 am
Raiders interviewing Mike Waufle for DLine coach… he coached Osi Umimyora in NY right? Osi made it clear he wants out, we should definitely make a play for him, the guy is a beast! The Giants made a mistake benching him last year!
January 20th, 2010 at 6:36 am
USUALY,IF A QB GOES DOWN ON ANY GIVEN PLAY,AN O-LINEMAN OR ANOTHER TEAMMATE WILL PULL HIM UP,AND GIVE HIM A PAT ON THE REAR,IT HAS PROBABLY HAPPEND WITH RUSSELL, BUT I CAN NOT REMEMBER WHEN…
January 20th, 2010 at 6:37 am
Sanchez puts the work in. he’s a leader
he earns more respect sitting on the bench eating a hotdog as a rookie than Russell does on a regular basis in Year #3 with the club!
January 20th, 2010 at 6:39 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVRCKWm4stE
January 20th, 2010 at 6:40 am
im all for marc trestman he was tough dude. he was around when raiders had killers like romanowski and ritchie and damn. the d tackle from nebraska. whats his name.
January 20th, 2010 at 6:41 am
…and eating his skittles that he pulled out from who knows where…
Bcz24…If that happens, that would be great! If Seymour is retained…can you just imagine?
January 20th, 2010 at 6:41 am
Osi made it clear he wants out, we should definitely make a play for him, the guy is a beast! The Giants made a mistake benching him last year!
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thats why they fired Bill Sheridan & hired Perry Fewell. Osi will be back and he’ll be happy in NY
Mike Waufle probably sees the writing on the wall. Spagnuolo is gone and now Sheridan is too. Fewell will probably get to assemble his own staff of asst coaches on D. guys with the same defensive philosophy. “his guys” so to speak
just like Marshall/Board/Haluchek was a package deal.
January 20th, 2010 at 6:41 am
will yall stop talkin bout jruss futue. his future is jail. f u k k him!!!! get an oline for him ? wuteva!
January 20th, 2010 at 6:41 am
Perrella?
January 20th, 2010 at 6:42 am
As for RaiderRockstar, great cut and paste job, but what’s your point? He said he’s gonna work his butt off in the offseason and that he grades himself harshly. Isn’t that what you want to hear? As far as his contract, what idiot would tell the media he wants to take a paycut?????? The fact that he’s trying to block out all the naysayers and concentrate on his game shows me maturity and a rare ability to deal with adversity. The same qualities that brought us back against San Diego, KC, AND Denver.
January 20th, 2010 at 6:42 am
marc trestman. my man coach crush.. no homo .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WifjaF-Dvhw
January 20th, 2010 at 6:44 am
May I break it down this way:
For every offensive snap by the Oakland Raiders, Jamarcus Russell makes (cannot say earns) ~ $10,000. Regardless of whether it is a handoff, a sack/fumble, an errant throw or he is sitting on the bench with a discombobulated look on his face he still makes $10,000.
For every offensive snap by the Oakland Raiders, all non-DHB wide receivers make about 500 bucks. Now while $500 for 6 or 8 seconds of work is nothing to sneeze at, there is a real risk of catastrophic injury when bending over backwards to catch a poor throw or being led straight into a helmet to helmet by a poorly timed throw or ending up a paraglegic from trying to come up with an overthrow. That 500 bucks takes on a whole different perspective when it is weighed against incapacitation.
For every offensive snap by the Oakland Raiders, Gradkowski earns about the same $500 as his wideouts.
So, who you gonna give it up for? A guy who doesn’t put in the time nor work at his craft yet still banks half a million dollars per game or a guy who comes in early, works hard at his craft and is in the same financial boat as you are while risking own longevity.
January 20th, 2010 at 6:44 am
yeah. Mike Waufle would have a great time coaching Seymour, Ellis, Scott & Shaughnessy. Maybe even Richardson or Bryant.
I hope he won’t be saddled with Kelly & Warren at DT though. thats putting your DL Coach in a position to fail!
January 20th, 2010 at 6:47 am
RaiderDebo,
just adding some flavor to the debate. I didn’t say anything negative about you or JR.
so calm down!
January 20th, 2010 at 6:49 am
BoSJack,
JaMardiGras and McFelldown – damn that’s good.
I tried getting Jerry’s view on the chat yesterday as to whether trading McF for a box of saltines and a can of soup was a good deal, but he avoided the entry.
January 20th, 2010 at 6:49 am
Dor….I mean SFAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thats funny!!!!!!
January 20th, 2010 at 6:49 am
Debo you are seriously delusional if you think Jamarshmallow is anything but a loser who only cares about his excessively large paycheck… Please stop and think before you make your posts. I suppose it is the WR’s and OLines fault that Jamarcus weighs in at a hefty 285lbs (which is the # the Raiders said… probably closer to 300-305), he has not been able to master the playbook (no excuse in the WORLD for the starting QB to not know the most simple offensive playbook in the NFL), he has missed meetings (he even slept through a QUARTERBACKS meeting). All this after he held the Raiders hostage during contract negotiations effectively ruining his rookie season. Comparing him to Marc Sanchez… [Russell - 120-246 (48.8%) 1287 yds, 3Tds (3 passing, 0 rushing) 11 Ints, 9 fumbles, 6 lost (17 turnovers total)] [Sanchez - 196-364 (53.8%) 2444 yds, 15Tds (12 passing, 3 rushing) 20ints, 10 fumbles, 3 lost (23 turnovers total)] Sanchez is also a rookie, who only started what 1 yr in college?
January 20th, 2010 at 6:50 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 20th, 2010 at 6:33 am
Judge, I don’t even know where to start. Let me just say this: if you don’t think JaMarcus Russell is a winner, look at his pedigree. He’s been a winner his whole life. And I think you’re really understating the importance of a strong supporting cast. Mark Sanchez threw 20 interceptions, yet his team will be playing for the AGC Championship on Sunday. Why is that?
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i’m astonished at your level of support for Russell…
i was a big supporter of Russell early this season…
comparing him to Elway even…
but Elway had something Jamarcus does not…
desire… you cannot teach desire…
in my view… Russell won the lottery… and he never has to work again…
i think it’s time to close the book on Russell…
January 20th, 2010 at 6:50 am
I HOPE U R CORRECT DEBO, 4 THE TEAM , 4 THE FAN’S , AND 4 RUSSELL I HOPE BECOMES A PRO-BOWLER..
January 20th, 2010 at 6:51 am
RaiderDebo
Just because you have won games in the past says nothing about your ability to play or lead at an entire different level.
As far as pedigree, well, talk to Todd Marinovich
Do I think a strong supporting cast is important? Yes, when it comes to winning. Do I think it has anything to do with being a good leader? No
A good leader turns an average group of men into a strong supporting cast. What Jamarcus is doing is the opposite. He is creating devisiveness. He doesn’t inspire his teammates to greatness. They don’t want to play for him.
That is the difference between Sanchez and Russell
January 20th, 2010 at 6:53 am
dor..? how he ,,? anyway
yeah i know right
January 20th, 2010 at 6:56 am
the difference between sanchez and russell is . jruss is a big moron from the country hell of alabama. who rather would smoke weed & eat 3 whoppers than watch game film. sanchez actually wants 2 win . sanchez does have a pro bowl line tho. and a super runnin game. and number 1 defense. etc
January 20th, 2010 at 6:56 am
U A LESTER HAYS FAN JUDGE, OR DOES YOUR NAME COME FROM SOMEWERE ELSE ? NICE POST #79
January 20th, 2010 at 6:56 am
Did you see the shot Sanchez took in the Titans game rushing in for a TD. He nearly got himself killed trying to plug it into the endzone (which he did) plays like that earn you respect. When have you ever seen Russell put it on the line to make a play… I havent. At LSU Russell stood in the pocket all day long waiting for receivers to come open, they did, he looked good. In the NFL, I dont care who is on your offensive line, you DO NOT have the time to sit there and wait. You have to anticipate… Russell doesnt do that… he stares at his receiver until he gets killed, and then everyone blames the oline for not holding the protection long enough!
January 20th, 2010 at 6:58 am
SFAL….thats the difference between Alabama weed and Calli weed….Calli weed you GET UP Alabama weed you get FAT
January 20th, 2010 at 6:59 am
RaiderDebo:
did you ever take the time to read what Gannon & Stabler said about #2 ?
sounds pretty accurate from when we’ve all seen on the field. Even Dilfer & Hasselbeck on NFL Live are right about him
January 20th, 2010 at 6:59 am
Florida Pete,
same here. I was wholeheartedly willing to give JRuss benefit of the doubt (not my norm by any means) that he could become the greatest Raider QB of all time. He even could’ve stunk up the joint this year, but as long as he was working hard and acted as if he gave a damn I still would’ve been completely supportive.
But then came the “It ain’t my fault” attitude and the laissez-faire ethic. F^ck that. He doesn’t give a rat’s a$$ and that is reflected right back at him. (he did win the lottery though. Good for him.)
January 20th, 2010 at 7:01 am
DIRT-LOT
Yes, I am a huge Lester Hayes fan BUT my last name is Judge.
Thanks!
January 20th, 2010 at 7:01 am
e=4eva, i bet jruss cant tell u much bout football plays but he sure could tell u how to break down & grow marijuanna. ans surely he knows each ingredient to every food at burger king . he probably studies film of cooking shows
January 20th, 2010 at 7:02 am
How long do you have to hold? 1 minute?
January 20th, 2010 at 7:03 am
BCZ24,GOOD POINT,BUT, PLAYING DEVIL’S ADVOCATR HERE, IF RUSSELL WOULD HAVE TRY’D 2 STUFF IT IN AT THE GOAL LINE, TOOK A HIT AND GOT INJURED, WE WOULD ALL B CALLING HIM AN IDIOT 4 MAKING THAT CHOICE.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:04 am
THANKS JUDGE, JUST WANDERING.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:05 am
Yep …he gotta be doing something because,well,just because =)
January 20th, 2010 at 7:05 am
Judge, being considered a leader at the QB position comes down to the same thing as any other position: you’ve got to make plays. Otherwise your words will ring hollow. JR knows this. He’s not going to pay it lip service. There hasn’t been enough playmaking in Oakland for a variety of reasons, but when it comes, he’ll be the leader. And there’s absolutely no proof for your assertion that he’s creating a divide in the locker room. Did you see everyone congratulating him after the Denver win? How about everyone, including Chaz, saying after the game how happy they were for him after being “dragged through the mud by everyone”???? Not ready to close the book on this guy.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:06 am
You know, Dirt Lot…That is something I would love to see from him. The coaches always said that he needs to know when to tuck the ball in and take off when there is no play around him. If he’s just going to sit there and be a statue…why did we let go of Andrew Walter? At least Walter did take off from time to time!!!
January 20th, 2010 at 7:06 am
my last name is Judge
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Mike Judge?
January 20th, 2010 at 7:08 am
How about everyone, including Chaz, saying after the game how happy they were for him after being “dragged through the mud by everyone”????
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I’m pretty sure Jay Richardson said that – not Chaz Schilens!
January 20th, 2010 at 7:09 am
Okay, but the Washington game…come on now…that was a tale of two halves! The team just totally randy Moss’d it in the second half after Bruce went down!
Yes…in the Denver game, they played harder for him and it did show but that was probably because the rest of the team got yealled at for that. And I do admit that the Baltimore game was probably one of his better games…considering that his two turnovers weren’t his fault. But…he needs to keep that fire under his arse, or he needs to go!
January 20th, 2010 at 7:10 am
they were just showing him,look:all this can be if you put in the time like the REST of US,imo Rockstar
January 20th, 2010 at 7:12 am
You know…just hoping for the best this season (after season…after season…). Will JRuss get it? Hard to say. If he does, I’ll continue to support him. Until he does…go fetch me a Roundhouse pizza while I enjoy the game!
January 20th, 2010 at 7:14 am
Good Morning Nation, The Only Nation.
Ok enough, i support Russell i have seen nhim through a lead block for a WR, i have seen him scrammble and spin away from defender. I havent seen this crap O-LIne block for him or any other QB we have “hence there injuries”. Russell is not a scrammbling QB, Gradkowski is so that is why he was more adequate at the time. Yes i love his work ethic and he is a team player. But his talents are not what Jmac has. Give Jmac an O-Line and an open competition and watch him flourish. Cable assembled this line so if he stays guess what? more zone blocking thats his forte. He was the biggest dissapointment this season not Jmac.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:15 am
From Jerry Mac on 12/20/09
Russell’s teammates seemed genuinely happy for him.
“I don’t think words can explain,” tackle Mario Henderson said. “He’s the No. 1 overall draft pick. He’s been hearing it from Day 1. For him to come in and do what he did today was amazing. One thing we did was step up behind him. We didn’t abandon him . . . the thing he showed us today is he was ready for the chance, he came back out strong and helped us when we needed it.”
Said tight end Tony Stewart: “The man has been freaking dragged through the mud and people have been taking shots at him and the man has just been standing tall. He has a lot of growing up to do but when it came time he stepped up and did the job.”
Debo: looks like we were both wrong!
January 20th, 2010 at 7:16 am
Hwnrdr and RaiderRockstar, I’ll meet you half way. Let’s see what he does this offseason. I’m very excited to see how things will go when he has the same wide receivers going into the next season for the first time. He could stand to lose some weight, but I’m not sure how much. I like the fact that he’s big. He’s taken a lot of hits and has missed just one game due to injury. Joe Flacco would be in traction behind our line.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:19 am
Im more interested to see the upgrade on our O-Line, without that Jmac will struggle again. Also Cable refusing to run the ball made Jmacs struggles even more noticeable. Trestman is the guy i have been asking for , for the last 2 seasons now. He is an up and comer and i believe our offense is suited for his style, i wanted him or Leach.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:21 am
Morning all.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:21 am
Fair enough, Debo. And R8dr4lfe…yeah I’ve seen that too, but I also seen way to many mistakes from him also. Yes, given time, he is going to be great! And that is what I can’t wait for. But…he has to become a leader, not just say it! And yes…please, the zbs is crap already!!!
January 20th, 2010 at 7:22 am
Not to mention if Jmac misses a throw, now you got 2nd and 10 then Green false start 2nd and 15. Cable trys a run up the middle with McFadden gain of 1 yard 3rd and 14, forcing Jmac to get a first when the defense is blitzing an O-Line that cannot pass protect. That is a recipe for a fckd up series, but it happened to many times. Then there are the 3 deep routes from your own endzone, this Line cant block they are our weakness.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:24 am
Going back to the Jerry Mac story,I thought Mooch was looking at the Raider job.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:29 am
Mooch was a rumor started from Kawakami.
Back to this Cable offense and him throwing his players under the bus. We know Jmacs work ethic was not there and now we know he lost 2 family members that were very close to him “his uncles”. That to me at his age is a big issue that is hard to bounce back from. Including all the BS we put him through by booing and writing crap, the media hounding him. Like Tony Stewart said he has been through some sh!t and stood tall. Jmac has always had a great completion %, now he cant hit a WR in stride? BS Cable and his dumb offense playcalling was the real dissapointment.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:30 am
I guess its just high expectations from Russell after the last 2 games of 08…Green p’d me off many times, and not only with Russell under center…so, you’re right…our line was not up to par. However, I did notice a decline in our run game the 2 times that Gallerey has been out due to injury…could that have something to do with it? Not making excuses…just opening the door…
January 20th, 2010 at 7:30 am
r8dr4lfe21 Says:
January 20th, 2010 at 7:22 am
Not to mention if Jmac misses a throw, now you got 2nd and 10 then Green false start 2nd and 15. Cable trys a run up the middle with McFadden gain of 1 yard 3rd and 14, forcing Jmac to get a first when the defense is blitzing an O-Line that cannot pass protect. That is a recipe for a fckd up series, but it happened to many times. Then there are the 3 deep routes from your own endzone, this Line cant block they are our weakness.
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You are right on. You make a great reference to the 1st play of the Jets game. JR got all kinds of flack for not having “pocket presence” on that fumble. What a joke! Warren Sapp reviewed that play on NFL Network. Did you see Barnes get pancaked by Pace on that play? JR never had a chance. My opinion is that if you don’t want the QB to fumble, don’t let him get hit. That’s Cable’s job and he didn’t get it done.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:33 am
Cable should have known along with Hackett that his pocket awareness wasnt up to par. Why not help the line with more 2 tight end sets, that we didnt see till the end of the season. That is incompitence on Cable. He knew this O-Line sucked from jump and he did nothing to fix it.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:35 am
r8dr4lfe21 & RaiderDebo:
every Raider fan hopes Russell will turn it around and get his act together. hopes one day he’ll go from zero to hero. in Year #3 you expect to see some signs of life. there were none to speak of. in fact, JR was benched on Week 10 during the KC loss and never started another game – despite the backup QB being injured! the team played much better the last 7 games of the season under a couple of 3rd string journeymen like Bruce & Charlie. then Cable basically says (after the season) that we could have been a playoff team if JR was pulled sooner. Assuming Cable returns, what chance do you give Russell to start, much less be successful? slim to none IMO
this team has lost faith in him and for good reason.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:36 am
You know what? I’m going to say this: We all know Russell isn’t going anywhere. Coaching candidate rumors suggest that…from the beginning, it was either Russell or Cable…who got paid more? Well…
I never booed the guy, and I never boo “my” team! So, with that being said…I will support Russell in an open competition this coming season! Prove that he is worth the wait. When he does prove it, the Raiders will be a better team! Many pieces will have to fall into place though…but it does start with the QB…the leader of this team!
January 20th, 2010 at 7:37 am
Kinda feel sorry for the Buffies. Ralph Wilson fired EVERYBODY after the season and then the best he could come up with was Chan Gailey? Sad. Poor Buffies.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:38 am
The team played better, why was Gradkowski not benched against Dallas, why was Frye not benched against Cleveland. Russell beat the Broncos those throws are throws i dont know of any QB able to make. He had the Chargers beat the D let up, he came back against KC. So how good were we really the last 7 games.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:38 am
M Lonetree Says:
January 20th, 2010 at 7:37 am
Kinda feel sorry for the Buffies. Ralph Wilson fired EVERYBODY after the season and then the best he could come up with was Chan Gailey? Sad. Poor Buffies.
I know, huh? Nice break in between Russell talks…LOL
January 20th, 2010 at 7:39 am
That pretty much covers it.Russell was replaced by a journeyman and when he was injured,a third stringer was called on instead of him.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:41 am
I blame Cable for his play calling and personnel decisions. He doesn’t have to tools to save this sinking ship …
when OL is your specialty and it’s the weakest link on the team it starts to raise some eyebrows.
still, everyone gave Andrew Walter a pass and how good did he turn out to be? you can’t make excuses in the NFL. If Russell can’t outplay Gradkowski or Frye he shouldn’t be starting. I don’t care how much money he’s making! play whoever gives us the best chance to win
January 20th, 2010 at 7:42 am
True and behind this line a mobile QB is better suited like Gradkowski. But fix the line and run the deeper routes and i like Jmac.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:43 am
True there were 2 deaths close to #2,but that didnt seem to hamper his clubbin round town
January 20th, 2010 at 7:43 am
RaiderRockstar- hehe
I wish, it is close though, Mark
Judge, being considered a leader at the QB position comes down to the same thing as any other position: you’ve got to make plays. Otherwise your words will ring hollow. JR knows this. He’s not going to pay it lip service. There hasn’t been enough playmaking in Oakland for a variety of reasons, but when it comes, he’ll be the leader. And there’s absolutely no proof for your assertion that he’s creating a divide in the locker room. Did you see everyone congratulating him after the Denver win? How about everyone, including Chaz, saying after the game how happy they were for him after being “dragged through the mud by everyone”???? Not ready to close the book on this guy.
RaiderDebo
Yes, if you are a stud at making plays it certainly helps to step in to the role as a leader but being a leader is not just making plays. There are plenty of stud NFL players that haven’t assumed the role of leader. A leader calls you on the carpet when you are dogging it. A leader takes a bullet for you. A leader teaches.
I too had high hopes heading in to the season after the last 6 games of last season. J Russell looked pretty good. The problem is he should have progressed and not regressed. We don’t want a QB who can only perform when the situation is optimum. We want a QB who can raise his level of performance when things are bad around him.
I only want what is best for the Raiders. If I am wrong about J Russell and he comes in to camp in shape, focused and his peformance wins him the starting job then I will support him. I am just saying that I don’t think he has it in him BASED on what I saw this year.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:44 am
So how good were we really the last 7 games.
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2-7 with Russell
3-4 without him
January 20th, 2010 at 7:49 am
I wonder if Cable agreed to take a demotion back to line coach. It doesn’t make sense he’s still around.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:51 am
Judge, just yelling and screaming at your teammates doesn’t make you a leader. JR was asked about this and said that’s not his style. He believes that you can shake a layer’s confidence doing that. He wants to build them up. In the Denver game, did you see what he did when Bush dropped that pass on 3rd down that would have resulted in a 1st? He tapped him on the helmet, essentially telling him to keep his head up. The next drive, he led us to victory. There are lots of ways to lead. No question this guy has “it”.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:54 am
LMAO
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RaiderDebo Says:
January 20th, 2010 at 7:51 am
There are lots of ways to lead. No question this guy has “it”.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:56 am
someone in here has a man crush on jafukus, either that or he is a paid raider employee.
the strongest arm in the world can’t think by itself, it has to have some help from the brain. russell got by on his arm many years but in the nfl you have to have something else and so far he doesn’t have it.
in the nfl you don’t have a lot of time and quick thinking is essential. russell is not a quick thinker, he looks at the person he wants to throw the ball to all the way. he exposes the receiver to getting their heads taken off if they catch it. in the back of your mind if you are the target of jamarcus you are thinking you’ve got a bullseye on your back. he can’t accurately read the defense, he can’t master the playbook and the coaches hands are tied for anything but the simplest of plays. why would you want to give that another shot?
January 20th, 2010 at 7:56 am
Trade DMAC for “it”!
January 20th, 2010 at 7:57 am
r8dr4lfe21 : why weren’t Gradkowski & Frye pulled?
Bruce only started 4 games and was injured in the 4th one. he won 2 out of 3 games he started and played the way through. he had us in position to beat Washington too. Raiders folded in the 4th quarter
Charlie moved the ball pretty well in the last 3 weeks, even though he may not get credit for any of those victories. the offense wasn’t anemic like it was under Russell anyways. Even coming back from a concussion Frye was playing well against a tough playoff hungry Ravens D until he injured his back & ankle.
Both QB’s had 1 season with the Raiders and fewer than 4 starts – yet both somehow surpassed 300 passing yards in a game. something Russell hasn’t done in 25+ starts and 3 seasons with the team. Please explain
January 20th, 2010 at 7:58 am
LOL!!!
January 20th, 2010 at 7:59 am
Gonna have to go.
Later…
January 20th, 2010 at 8:00 am
gotta run to a meeting fellas. it’s been real
January 20th, 2010 at 8:01 am
JaMardiGras is a bum. His career peaked when he sheltered Fats Domino.
January 20th, 2010 at 8:02 am
C-Ya Neilb!
LMAO Bo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 20th, 2010 at 8:03 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJqd_5fC7ZI&feature=player_embedded#
Jets fan arrested at chargers game.
January 20th, 2010 at 8:04 am
On Fassel: I think he is a bland guy, more of an analyst than a leader. His NY teams played down to competition, something the Raiders need tons of help with. I think Fassel has been out of a job since 2006 for a reason. He is not somebody I see lighting a fire under the underachieving Raiduhs…
January 20th, 2010 at 8:04 am
Raiderdebo, let them cry and complain and make up fairy tales about Russell it doesn’t matter man Russell will be a Raider wether they like it or not………..period
To try and make reason with unreasonable people is a waste. This kid can get it done and he has gotten it done on several occasions. Wether they admit it or not. Let them keep beating their collective heads against the wall as long as they can take the pain. So be it…
January 20th, 2010 at 8:05 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 20th, 2010 at 7:57 am
r8dr4lfe21 : why weren’t Gradkowski & Frye pulled?
Bruce only started 4 games and was injured in the 4th one. he won 2 out of 3 games he started and played the way through. he had us in position to beat Washington too. Raiders folded in the 4th quarter
Charlie moved the ball pretty well in the last 3 weeks, even though he may not get credit for any of those victories. the offense wasn’t anemic like it was under Russell anyways. Even coming back from a concussion Frye was playing well against a tough playoff hungry Ravens D until he injured his back & ankle.
Both QB’s had 1 season with the Raiders and fewer than 4 starts – yet both somehow surpassed 300 passing yards in a game. something Russell hasn’t done in 25+ starts and 3 seasons with the team. Please explain
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I see. So Gradkowski starts the Washington game and we’re down seven at halftime, but we blame the loss on JR. But JR leads the winning TD drive against Denver and Charlie Frye should get the credit because he was “moving the ball pretty well”. Oh and by the way, we lost the Dallas game and the Cleveland games because of JR too. C’mon man.
January 20th, 2010 at 8:05 am
i have a feeling….that tonight’s gonna be a good night, a good, good night……that cable is going to stay, as he should and that al’s looking for a oc.
January 20th, 2010 at 8:06 am
Another year upon us while we all sit at home watching the SB…I’ll give Russell another year…no matter the circumstances…he has to get it! He may have some leadership qualities, but showing up late to team meetings and falling asleep are qualities of a leader, also!
January 20th, 2010 at 8:06 am
Didn’t Hue Jackson play Wolverine? Is that why Al wants him.
Is Dakota a man or woman?
January 20th, 2010 at 8:06 am
Man I hope this king thing doesnt go to #2’s head
January 20th, 2010 at 8:07 am
priesttj what are you doing here?
January 20th, 2010 at 8:08 am
I hear ya Priest. Been reading this board for a long time and couldn’t take it anymore. Had to give it a try. LOL.
January 20th, 2010 at 8:08 am
what’s russell’s record as a starter in the nfl? period. what’s his passer rating and is getting worse or better? this fugger should be in his prime. all talk and nothing to back “it” UP.
why don’t you raider employees go back to cleaning the toilets in al’s office.
January 20th, 2010 at 8:08 am
Ummm…we were down 7, lost by 21! That wasn’t totally JRuss, but the team did give up on him!
January 20th, 2010 at 8:09 am
I can see #2 lining up under center and barking out….And now my servent will hand me the ball on 2!
January 20th, 2010 at 8:09 am
Oh Hobs those are just fairy tales, ask tj
lol
January 20th, 2010 at 8:11 am
if al really wanted to win at all costs instead of just looking at what the costs are, the raiders could go to the playoffs next season. he is more concerned with money than anything else. he knows he has to secure his son’s future, that is why he sold parts of the team off.
January 20th, 2010 at 8:12 am
tj is a company man all the way.
January 20th, 2010 at 8:13 am
yes man
January 20th, 2010 at 8:14 am
Great post #124 they want what they seee from Grads because he’s a fiery guy. But 3 teams ran him outta town. Same with Frye yeah they are ahead of Russell at this point but that wont last long.
I’d personally take Frye over Grads size being the reason but they’re comparable talent wise. But when it comes to greatness talent wise neither of them compare to Russell NFL people understand this fans do not.
January 20th, 2010 at 8:15 am
new post ladies
January 20th, 2010 at 8:18 am
Hobs, relax. I’ll get to the toilets in a minute. But 1st things 1st: QBs shouldn’t have records. That is a bogus stat that I don’t even think is official. The legendary Gil Brandt said it best: There’s no position more important then QB, but no position depends more on the guys around him getting their jobs done. In his prime after two years as a starter? Please. He’s got plenty of time to reach his prime. And I could care less about his QB rating. As he, along with his supporting cast, gets better, that’ll get better too. It’s a process.
January 20th, 2010 at 8:29 am
priesttj Says:
January 20th, 2010 at 8:14 am
Great post #124 they want what they seee from Grads because he’s a fiery guy. But 3 teams ran him outta town. Same with Frye yeah they are ahead of Russell at this point but that wont last long.
I’d personally take Frye over Grads size being the reason but they’re comparable talent wise. But when it comes to greatness talent wise neither of them compare to Russell NFL people understand this fans do not.
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Thanks Priest. Thank God Al Davis recognizes this. I hope Grads and Cable go to another team with Hackett and Tollner. Then some of these so-called fans can go and follow them. I’m for keeping Frye too. He’s a good model for JR off the field in terms of preparation and is already looking ahead to being a coach. I saw a special on Brett Favre the other day. He said his 1st couple of years with Green Bay, he’d watch film, but he was just watching the game. He didn’t know how to break it down. But Ty Detmer helped him figure it out. In fact, he said Detmer had to explain to him what a nickel defense is. That’s what a veteran backup is supposed to be. A selfless tutor/mentor. That’s what they brought Garcia in for, but he’s too full of himself to do that. Frye is the guy. All JR needs is a a little help in this area like any other young QB. Not worried about him at all.
January 20th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Priest your support of Frye over Grads is outlandish in its wrongheadedness. I watched Frye in Cleveland. He is nothing more than a benchwarmer/clipboard holder. Gradkowski reminds many of us of Gannon in his spirit and leadership. These qualities have been totally lacking in this team–including at the top of the hierarchy. If you can’t see this you’re clueless, but then again you still believe crazy Al will turn things around don’t you?
RaiderDumbo you’re not much more insightful, dude. You guys are a couple of apologists and really believe a change in coaching staff is the answer. Good grief.
January 20th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Grads looked good when he was in but we were still down at halftime to the Redskins with Bruce at the healm. I like bringing Bruce back Frye however is expendable based on what he showed against Cleveland. We still need to bring in a solid vet qb (Vick could suffice) to compete w/ Grads in case D’s figure him out and he’s unable to adapt. An OC so Cable can focus more on OL, a revamped Oline and LB crew via FA/draft and were in business
January 20th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Jin Fassel told Sirius radio host Gary Williams this morning that he had NOT talked with Al Davis about the Raiders Head coaching posion because the Raiders currently have a Head Coach, Tom Cable. Al Davis has not called him and he has not called Al Davis because he has a coaching job he really likes in Las Vegas and his son in on the raiders coaching staff and he wouldn’t want to create a bad situation for his son.
January 20th, 2010 at 10:26 am
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January 20th, 2010 at 11:40 am
Do not renew season tickets unless Harbaugh or Gruden are hired as the Head Coach and if a REAL GM/Personnel Man who knows how to run the draft are hired!
January 20th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Once Al Davis is gone….I want you Al Davis worshippers to go bye bye with him!