Past searches have been disasters
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, January 21st, 2010 at 8:50 pm in Oakland Raiders.
If Al Davis seems a little gun shy with regard to changing coaches this time around, it’s with good reason.
It’s not like Davis has been adept at zeroing in on a promising candidate and reeling him in.
You’d think someone with as much practice at hiring and firing would, even by accident, bring home a winner.
Except that since 2004, Davis has brought in Sean Payton, Bobby Petrino, Ken Whisenhunt and Steve Sarkisian only to have each one of them walk away. Taking that into account, it’s difficult to accept Davis’ yearly claims about all the great coaches that want to be with the Raiders at face value.
There’s no guarantee any of those names would have worked either, given the environment. Particularly in the case of Petrino, who bailed out on the Atlanta Falcons after realizing he had no taste for the NFL game.
The men who ended up being hired as those candidates walked away _ Norv Turner, Art Shell and Lane Kiffin _ were a combined 16-52. None were ready to deal with life as a Raiders coach under Davis for different reasons. Turner didn’t have the charisma, Shell had been away too long and was intractable, and Kiffin was too immature to finesse a situation the way Jon Gruden did.
I’ve already made the argument that the problem rests with Davis’ role as general manager, a point that was echoed in Thursday’s papers by columnist Monte Poole.
There doesn’t appear to be any chance Davis will fire himself for that role, or that there are enough confidants remaining to convince him that he should.
Which means Davis will be, as President Bush called himself, “The Decider.” And while Davis may still have an eye for good candidates, his ability to close the deal is another story.
Payton was the choice to succeed Bill Callahan in 2004 until Jerry Jones gave him a huge raise to remain in Dallas as an assistant. After Turner was fired, exec Mike Lombardi pushed hard for Petrino. The Louisville coach came in for a stealth interview, received an offer but turned it down because of family concerns.
Whisenhunt interviewed in Alameda and even checked out local real estate with his wife with a broker provided by the club, but withdrew his name before getting an offer.
The end result was Shell.
Sarkisian, a former Raiders quarterbacks coach and USC co-offensive coordinator, was targeted to replace Shell. He interviewed well and went home to Southern California thinking he was going to be head coach of the Raiders, only to wake up the next morning and think better of it. That led to Kiffin, who was to join Sarkisian as offensive coordinator.
Kiffin ended up being Davis’ biggest nightmare.
Cable, at least, has his team playing hard in December and seems to handle pressure well. He understands the organization and wants to work with Davis.
As disappointing as some of the premium draft picks have been (Russell, Darren McFadden, Darrius Heyward-Bey), the Raiders locked up Nnamdi Asomugha and Shane Lechler last season, will likely do the same with Richard Seymour and Sebastian Janikowski.
There are some intriguing and promising young talents, particularly on defense (Tyvon Branch, Trevor Scott, Matt Shaughnessy). It’s a young team that may not respond to wholesale change in the coaching staff.
The owner has a laundry list of complaints, the biggest among them another losing season, too many blowout losses and the regression of Cable’s hand-picked offensive line.
But it might be easier to bring in a new direction to the offense with a coordinator and play-caller.
Or Davis can get back into the business of hiring another head coach, where his success has mirrored what has taken place on the field.
EXTRA POINTS
Not much in the way of real news today.
– Jim Harbaugh’s agent, Jack Bechta, joined the parade of denials regarding interviewing with the Raiders for the head coaching job.
– Kiffin had a rather unique honor bestowed upon him in Tennessee. Hold your nose for this one.
– Profootballtalk.com reported (or passed along rumors) that Cable could be reunited with Kiffin at Southern Cal.
– The Washington Redskins hired former 49ers line coach Chris Foerster as their line coach, a position Cable, if available, would have been suited for, given coach Mike Shanahan’s background in zone blocking. Kiffin hired James Cregg, the former Raiders assistant who left the club to join him at Tennessee, to an unspecified position.
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January 21st, 2010 at 8:51 pm
# Raiders4eve Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Jhill
Tomlin drafted Rashard Mendenhall and thats why he started over Speedy Parker, he also drafted Wallace, besides, Tomlin is clearly in command you can notice it by the way he talks and says who is starting or not. Cable needed AL’s permission to bench Jawalrus. Ken Whisenhunt controls everything in Arizona you gotta agree some coaches have more leverage then others.
January 21st, 2010 at 8:52 pm
first btw
January 21st, 2010 at 8:53 pm
almost first
January 21st, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Parker was hurt. The Steelers drafted a RB because Bettis retired. How can you say Tomlin made those calls over the GM?
Tomlin was nearly fired this year. The owner came out and said who important that winning steak was for his tenure, lol.
I do agree that some coaches have more leverage than others. But I also know that there are plenty of coaches working under the same conditions.
Davis wanted Moss here, Kiffin didn’t. Davis wanted Crockett on the roster, Kiffin didn’t. You think Davis wanted Josh McClown and Mike Williams?
A lot of coaches have SOME things placed on them.
January 21st, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Well, it seems Jerry also agrees with Richochet that no Quality coach would want to work with AL. I dont blame them. I doubt any of you guys would wanna work for psychotic owner like AL. Imagine you having prepared a gameplan on thursday only to come Friday and see your plan removed. We are playing 90% man to man defense, some would say the Giants won SB playing that style, thats wrong. Giants mixed up against NE, they played more zone coverage then anytime else. When you playing against elite teams, you show them something pre snab and you do something else post snab, thats how you create turnovers. Raiders are very predictable in defense, offense is horrible without a running game. Of course, reason we cant run is the weak OL and Jalwarus inability to throw the ball accurately. I believe we need changes in the philosophy this team implements. Jhill kept saying that we need to do what the Jets are doing, strong defense and run the ball 60% of the time. AL will not watch a boring game like that, his mind is set on old school vertical passing. Why do you think Cable focused on passing the whole training camp? That is what he promised AL when he interviewed for this job. If a coach tells AL we will play smash mouth football, you will see him walking past harbor bay right away. No chance we can win with this system.
January 21st, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Jhill
Bro, just a question and please give me a yes or no answer
Do you agree that AL Davis is a control freak as an owner?
January 21st, 2010 at 9:07 pm
The guys agree to coach the Raiders and then leave before a deal gets done?
It’s pretty easy to see that they couldn’t come to FINANCIAL terms. If Wisenhunt was looking for property, wouldn’t that tell you he was ok with the parameters of the job?
Sean Peyton prepared to take the job if not for Jerry Jones cock blocking?
Cheap as Al not opening up the petty cash drawer and making it happen.
January 21st, 2010 at 9:08 pm
Yes I do …
Without question. Like most owners, Al Davis is a ridiculous control freak.
January 21st, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Numero 10!
January 21st, 2010 at 9:11 pm
10!
January 21st, 2010 at 9:11 pm
You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.
January 21st, 2010 at 9:13 pm
We ran the ball under Gruden, Callahan, Turner and Kiffin. Vertical passing attack does not mean throwing the ball 75% of the time. It means taking some shots down the field. 4 or 5 deep shots per game is all that’s needed.
January 21st, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Jhill
Under Kiffen, we played WCO system, but under Cable it was pure old school 80 play vertical passing.
January 21st, 2010 at 9:21 pm
“There’s no guarantee any of those names would have worked either, given the environment.”
you think?
January 21st, 2010 at 9:23 pm
al is a jerk. I wish the other owners of this team would speak up and force him out already. What percentage does al even own anymore? Seriously?
January 21st, 2010 at 9:29 pm
51%
January 21st, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Norv Turner runs a vertical passing offense. They run the ball well and then chuck it deep down the field. His team went 12-4 this year.
January 21st, 2010 at 9:38 pm
The pat’s run a vert game so do the Saints and many other teams. Very few teams run a true WCO anymore. Since Gruden got fired I don’t think anyone really runs a true WCO to be honest.
January 21st, 2010 at 9:43 pm
“Past searches have been disasters”
Sorry, couldn’t make it past that headline without some seriously scary flashbacks to the time I tracked down the Two Girls, One Cup video on the internet. I just blacked out but awoke with an acute tingling sensation in my nether region.
January 21st, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Richochet Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 9:42 pm
# jhill Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Al is the GM!
RICHOCHET: Exactly. The biggest faux paus.
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Did Carroll and Shanny Rat get to pick their whole staff? No hangovers? How about Buffalo?
Richochet: Don’t know about Carroll..but you can bet Shanahan has full control over who’s on his staff. You can also bet that Shanahan, and most likely every HC in the league, (except the Raiders) has the authority to terminate an asst, if need be. How could they not?
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Well outside of DHB and Mike Mitchell, Russell, Gallery, Huff, and DMAC were not bad picks at the time they were made. Easy to go Monday morning QB on us.
RICHOCHET: Outside of? lol..Two picks just this last year that made no sense to anyone. Russell, Huff, and DMAC? Huff and DMAC were way down the list of priority needs at the time, and both are suspect. Russell was that “deep threat” Al can’t resist. Obviously that could have gone either way. obviously it didn’t work out.
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You mean like The Titans owner told Fisher to play Vince Young? (side note: can’t believe he made the Pro Bowl!).
RICHOCHET: I’m sorry..but which of the ten does that directly apply to? None.
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Only person I’ve heard say that is Sapp. No argument that Ryan was a puppet. Marshall sure seems to be mixing it up though.
RICHOCHET: The list is long on explayers that have no shortage of things to say about Al butting in..from Romo to Collins to Rice to Sapp. How many do you need?
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Or it just goes back to he needs to fork over the cash and hire a better coach. Kiffin and Cable picked those players!
RICHOCHET: Picked what players? Where did you ever see that? For that matter Kiffin didn’t want Russell. Obviously as HC he had no say in it.
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The rest sound like personal issues you have against the owner or are lumped in to the whole Kiffin thing. Kiffin shouldn’t have acted like a spoiled brat. So Al told him NO you can’t bring your daddy here. Play out the year and hire someone else when Ryan’s contract is up instead quitting and trying to get fired.
RICHOCHET: lol..that’s not how it happened, and you know it. Al pulled his ‘YOU DON’T FIRE ANYONE. NO ONE FIRES ANYONE AROUND HERE BUT ME.”..THAT’S when Kiffin said if I can’t control my staff, fire me. Al didn’t. Al dared him to “quit if you want”..knowing he wouldn’t have to pay him. Kiffin didn’t take the bait. Kiffin went public with his displeasure in Al’s offseason total chaos fiasco, starting with Walker. Comments from Kiffin about Al butting in prompted Al to threaten Kiffin for going public with what was going on (Ironic that Al did the exact same thing..no?) INCLUDING Al getting together with Ryan to game plan the defense, ignoring Kiffin. Al sends a warning letter. Then Kiffin suspends Randy Hanson, where Al promptly OVERRULES KIFFIN.
You’re welcome to state exactly which of the 10 is wrong.
So far you haven’t
January 21st, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Priesttj
Greenbay, Seattle, Atlanta, Carolina, Jacksonville, Vikings, Eagles, etc are some teams that implement WCO, Pats are not vertical, they play the Spread Offense just like 49ers started doing.
January 21st, 2010 at 9:49 pm
HERE’s WHY NO QUALITY HEAD COACH WILL EVER COME TO COACH FOR AL DAVIS.
1. Al hires the assts. has stated only HE hires and fires (See Kiffin/Ryan)
2. Al, regardless of opinion, still makes head up ass decisions regarding draft.
3. Al, regardless of what HC wants to do, decides, when he sees fit, who plays, and who sits. (See Norv benching Collins, stating Tui has the last 4 games, where immediately was overruled by Al, where Collins proceeded to lose out those same games)
4. Al will decide to toss out a whole scheme, on a whim, because he wants the defense or offense to try something different (See Sapp, Gannon, Rice, Brown..LOTS)
5. Al refuses to accept that he needs help/GM..whatever..and continues to make stupid decisions that hurt the team/organization (See Walker, Kwame, Hall, Wilson, Kelly)
6. Al refuses to pay his HC’s anywhere near what they are worth (”See EVERYONE)
7. Al goes public with dirty laundry instead of handling things with class (See OverHeadProjectorGate)
8. Al stupidly announced to all that he was not just terminating his HC, but wasn’t going to pay him HIS CONTRACT, STATING JUST CAUSE..which tells every quality candidate that the contract they sign might just be voided, for one of the owners demented reasons, that could end him in court for years to recoup.
9. Al is known for calling down from the box, to call in a play (See Gruden, flipping off Al up in his box, after one of many calls. See Sapp stating “We’re going deep. The phone from Al just rang.)
10. Al is known for his little spies that he puts in that run to Al tattling (See Shell/Lombardi. See Cable/Hanson)
There is more..but..I think an even 10 IS ENOUGH.
Anyone of those would keep many QUALITY head coaches away.
All of those?
IT’S NOW KEEPING THE WHIZ’S, THE PAYTON’S..ETC..AWAY.
January 21st, 2010 at 9:54 pm
You know…this thread from Jerry looks familiar..somehow
January 21st, 2010 at 9:55 pm
What cracks me up is that people think getting a GM is some magic potion or panacea. All teams other than the Raiders have a GM under the owner maybe the Cowboys are the only team that doesn’t have a GM thta’s not the owner. A GM isn’t going to gaurantee a damn thing. Mr Davis will still operate as he always has. The GM will just be a co-pilot and there is already someone filling that role.
Fool like Monte Poole are of the assumption that a GM will all of a sudden make things turnaround. I think that’s very ignorant thinking. The Raiders are the Raiders and Mr Davis is Mr Davis. He will get this fixed one way or the other his own way. Blockheads like Monte Poole simply can’t see that they want sme magical fix. GM screw up all the time look how long it took the Saints and the Cards and the Jets, they’ve had GM’s for decades what took so long?
January 21st, 2010 at 9:57 pm
Yeah, Seymoron, laughing at the fact Jerry just stated almost exactly what YOU ARE SO CONFUSED OVER, lol..dumbass.
January 21st, 2010 at 9:57 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 9:32 pm
RICHOCHET: While Gruden is a, IMO, quality coach, Payton was an assistant.
Do you understand what I mean when I’m saying the Raiders won’t get a quality head coach? I don’t mean they can’t hire someone who turns INTO a quality head coach..I’m saying what others are saying, that an ESTABLISHED, QUALITY HEAD COACH would find no desire, or need to compromise so many things in order to come to coach the Raiders?
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What the hell is wrong with this guy? Why is he sooooooo freaking dense? We understand the redundant obvious irrelevant posts. That’s what you do. What you don’t seem to grasp is what were the combined records of the Head Coaches that are coaching in the AFC Championship Game coming into this season? I will answer that for you 0-0. You know what that means? You don’t need an established Head Coach to win in this league. So your argument is irrelevant.
January 21st, 2010 at 9:58 pm
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January 21st, 2010 at 10:00 pm
Not confused at all. Irrelevant point. Turner came here his team was 12-4. Kiffin just got hired by USC. If Cable left he probably would do well. There are challenges coming here. There are challenges going to Detroit, Arizona, Buffalo, Cleveland, SF, SD, KC, St. Louis…..
January 21st, 2010 at 10:00 pm
Quit abusing the right to be stupid, Priest.
NO ONE IS SAYING GETTING A GM TURNS EVERYTHING AROUND, fool.
What they’re saying is GM is a full time job.
A job where the person is ACTUALLY HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
A job that has to be done well for EVERYONE ELSE TO BE ABLE TO DO THEIR JOB.
The fact Al is NOT in it full time..that he is NOT held accountable..and that he is NOT doing even an adequate job is the issue at hand.
Quit pretending you don’t know that.
You know..sometimes admitting you’re wrong gets you more props than your silly tirades, refusing to admit you blew it..both on Russell, and Al.
You won’t, because you’re a small man.
Which is exactly how small insecure men act.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:00 pm
The great Scott Pioli gave Matt Cassell $63mill try getting that back for the next 5 years. They all screw up. The is no magic potion and no one has cornered the market on success in the NFL much of what happens is luck and happenstance. The draft is a crapshoot and great players get hurt, ie;Bo Jackson and get old Mike Haynes.
Biulding great teams is very difficult. It took the Steelers 40 years to do it.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:05 pm
# Richochet Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 10:00 pm
Which is exactly how small insecure men act.
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Obviously you know this from experience.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:05 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 9:57 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 9:32 pm
RICHOCHET: While Gruden is a, IMO, quality coach, Payton was an assistant.
Do you understand what I mean when I’m saying the Raiders won’t get a quality head coach? I don’t mean they can’t hire someone who turns INTO a quality head coach..I’m saying what others are saying, that an ESTABLISHED, QUALITY HEAD COACH would find no desire, or need to compromise so many things in order to come to coach the Raiders?
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What the hell is wrong with this guy? Why is he sooooooo freaking dense? We understand the redundant obvious irrelevant posts. That’s what you do. What you don’t seem to grasp is what were the combined records of the Head Coaches that are coaching in the AFC Championship Game coming into this season? I will answer that for you 0-0. You know what that means? You don’t need an established Head Coach to win in this league. So your argument is irrelevant.
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You backtracking now, Seymoron?
You got reamed on being to slow to grasp everyone’s point..and now you’re trying to switch in midstream to now saying “Oh..you don’t NEED AN ESTABLISHED HEAD COACH”??
Hey..admit you’re wrong..then we’ll go there.
Don’t insult everyone’s intelligence by running that weak garbage. You opened mouth, inserted foot.
Oh..LET ME SAY IT AGAIN…oh hell..instead…go read Jerry post..THAT HE GOT FROM MINE…
Now..don’t you feel stupid, lol..
Classic.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:06 pm
BAN THE TROLLS!
January 21st, 2010 at 10:08 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 10:00 pm
Not confused at all. Irrelevant point. Turner came here his team was 12-4. Kiffin just got hired by USC. If Cable left he probably would do well. There are challenges coming here. There are challenges going to Detroit, Arizona, Buffalo, Cleveland, SF, SD, KC, St. Louis…..
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Oh stop, you idiot.
Geez..like slapping around a little child.
Uh..dumbass??? When Turner came here HE WASN’T A QUALITY HEAD COACH.
When Kiffin came here HE WASN’T A QUALITY HEAD COACH (still isn’t)
Cable? LMAO at that dumb comment from you…
Yep, SeyMORON..to the bone.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:09 pm
# BadMoodGuy Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 10:06 pm
BAN THE TROLLS!
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You’re right.
You should be banned.
You add nothing.
You show up just to create havoc.
You are trolling with that sole intent.
I would say we’ll miss you..but..dude..no one knows you exist.
Sorry bout that, pumpkin.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:10 pm
# Richochet Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 10:05 pm
You backtracking now, Seymoron?
You got reamed on being to slow to grasp everyone’s point..and now you’re trying to switch in midstream to now saying “Oh..you don’t NEED AN ESTABLISHED HEAD COACH”??
Hey..admit you’re wrong..then we’ll go there.
Don’t insult everyone’s intelligence by running that weak garbage. You opened mouth, inserted foot.
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hahaha. Here you go, once again, glossing yourself. No, you just do what you always do, state the extreme obvious with no insight and then gloss yourself. That was my point the entire time. I knew you wouldn’t grasp it. You don’t graps much. Unless everyone has realized it 10 years ago. Stay out of the fast lane turtle.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Raiderseve, none of thse teams run a true WCO, they all have features of it but none run a true WCO. NONE!!
And the word spread is way overused in today’s media types. The spread is really just the run and shoot. 3 wides is not the spread and just because you get in the shotgun doesn’t mean you’re in the spread. You can put 4 recievers in the pattern with 2 TE’s and 2 WR’s 1HB. And call it the spread but it’s just putting the lead blocker inline.
The WCO is almost obscolete.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:13 pm
Priesttj
If you really know about football, why would you say Pats implement vertical game when clearly they implement the Spread Offense?
Btw, teams that dont have a GM, they have a coach who has full control over his personal something Cable never had, do you really think Cable wanted JR and DHB to start nine games? No coach with a right mind would start the season with two rookies and inaccurate QB, look at the Cardinals, Whisenhut showed up and first move he did was bench Leinart cause he is inaccurate. Profootballtalk.com reported today that Cardinals wide receivers dont trust Leinart, don’t you think it is the same with Jamarcus? Do you think Schillens praised Frye and Gradkowitzki but said no comment about JR for no reason? Come on Priesttj, we can sit in here all night and keep disagreeing but clearly your beloved MR Davis cost us the season this year forcing JR, DHB and Murphy to start.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:14 pm
When Rex Ryan took over the NY Jets this year he wasn’t a quality Head Coach. When Jim Caldwell took over Indy, he wasn’t a quality Head Coach. When Sean Peyton took over NO he wasn’t a quality Head Coach. When Brad Childress took over Minn he wasn’t a quality Head Coach. Those guys seem to be doing pretty good since they are all in the conference championships. You do know who is playing in the conference Championships right? Man, I thought this guy was slow, but he is down right mentally deficient.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:15 pm
Check mate.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:19 pm
# Simon Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 9:23 pm
al is a jerk. I wish the other owners of this team would speak up and force him out already. What percentage does al even own anymore? Seriously?
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# r8eray Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 9:29 pm
51%
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My sense is that you are in error about the 51%. He’s been selling off percentages for quite awhle now. AD’s ownership percentage is not what’s important. What IS IMPORTANT is the contract between The Oakland Raiders (Ownership) and AD FOOTBALL INC. It’s a lifetime plus agreement that gives Al Davis 100% operational control of he team irrespective of his ownership percentage. Needless to say, AD FOOTBALL INC. is most likely generously compensated for services rendered and there is probably a poison pill clause that if any of the owners try to kill the agreement, they blow up first and will probably all be responsible for all legal fees. Remember, he arranged this agreement back when he was in total ownership control and could basically do whatever he wanted. This is one of the main reasons he’s so careless with the cash to players. For the most part, it’s NOT his cash that he’s spending. It’s the investor’s money. I would also imagine that the AD FOOTBALL INC. contract will survive his death and continue into perpetuity. What Mark Davis or Amy Trask do after AD checks out is yet to be determined. That contract will be wort a ton of money to whomever controls it, especially if the then in-place owners want to buy out the contract.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:25 pm
Raiderseve, Ask anyone that works in the NFL player, coach, bottlewasher the Pat’s run a verticle passing game………period
January 21st, 2010 at 10:26 pm
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January 21st, 2010 at 10:26 pm
Btw, the Steelers used later in the season when they couldnt run the ball, a perfect example was Steelers vs Greenbay, 3 wrs along with TE Miller going in motion in a shot gun formation. Ben spread out his offense.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:27 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 10:14 pm
When Rex Ryan took over the NY Jets this year he wasn’t a quality Head Coach. When Jim Caldwell took over Indy, he wasn’t a quality Head Coach. When Sean Peyton took over NO he wasn’t a quality Head Coach. When Brad Childress took over Minn he wasn’t a quality Head Coach. Those guys seem to be doing pretty good since they are all in the conference championships. You do know who is playing in the conference Championships right? Man, I thought this guy was slow, but he is down right mentally deficient.
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Why are you posting this?
Why are you trying to backtrack?
Yeah..all of those are exactly as you stated..none of them were quality head coaches prior to going wherever they excelled at.
So what? Who said otherwise, you ignorant flea?
Go read MY POST ON PREVIOUS THREAD.
Go read JERRY’S POST, TAKEN FROM MY POST.
Go read so many other posters here who state the same thing..that no QUALITY HEAD COACH WILL COME COACH THE RAIDERS..
Then reply, totally confused, not getting the point, proving you’re an idiot, repeating your same backtracking weak no relevant comment.
You’re by yourself..for a reason.
Your silly juvenile tantrum pretending you don’t “get it” just makes you come across as even more pathetic.
Now..little boy? Like it or not..MY COMMENTS ARE THROUGH OUT JERRY’S THREAD ABOVE.
Still LMFAO that not only did I schytt down your neck, but Jerry just did, as well.
good one, Gomer.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Post24,priesttj,Seven years of losing,and I MEAN RECORD breaking LOSING,and you say to get over the FACT that we dont have a GM in place means NOTHING!!Well,I think youre on the payroll or just lacking sleep! Hire a GM,lets give that a try,see what happens. If not,forget season tickets,period
January 21st, 2010 at 10:30 pm
# JB Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 10:19 pm
# Simon Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 9:23 pm
al is a jerk. I wish the other owners of this team would speak up and force him out already. What percentage does al even own anymore? Seriously?
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# r8eray Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 9:29 pm
51%
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My sense is that you are in error about the 51%. He’s been selling off percentages for quite awhle now. AD’s ownership percentage is not what’s important. What IS IMPORTANT is the contract between The Oakland Raiders (Ownership) and AD FOOTBALL INC. It’s a lifetime plus agreement that gives Al Davis 100% operational control of he team irrespective of his ownership percentage. Needless to say, AD FOOTBALL INC. is most likely generously compensated for services rendered and there is probably a poison pill clause that if any of the owners try to kill the agreement, they blow up first and will probably all be responsible for all legal fees. Remember, he arranged this agreement back when he was in total ownership control and could basically do whatever he wanted. This is one of the main reasons he’s so careless with the cash to players. For the most part, it’s NOT his cash that he’s spending. It’s the investor’s money. I would also imagine that the AD FOOTBALL INC. contract will survive his death and continue into perpetuity. What Mark Davis or Amy Trask do after AD checks out is yet to be determined. That contract will be wort a ton of money to whomever controls it, especially if the then in-place owners want to buy out the contract.
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I forget the details, but I recall reading something where if the shares were sold, couldn’t be to another share holder, and had to be offered to Al first.
obviously, considering how Al did exactly that with Wayne Valley, acquiring another owners shares, making him majority owner, Al would make sure no one could screw him over like he screwed over his previous partners.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:31 pm
those exact same articles that Monte Poole has been writing for years. Nothing new goober. Why don’t you try getting to this century. Check mate goober.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Gilbert, don’t buy tickets, it’s your choice man. Go fishing or buy niner tickets what works!!.
A GM is not going to make a whole hell f lot of difference, hell most fans would say it’s window dressing anyway. If he wants a GM he’ll hire if he doesn’t he wont.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:34 pm
# gilbert Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Post24,priesttj,Seven years of losing,and I MEAN RECORD breaking LOSING,and you say to get over the FACT that we dont have a GM in place means NOTHING!!Well,I think youre on the payroll or just lacking sleep! Hire a GM,lets give that a try,see what happens. If not,forget season tickets,period
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Priest is one of the 3 Al Lovers on the board.
Al tells him jump, he jumps.
Tells him sweep, he sweeps.
Tells him be a lemming, yep..he’s a lemming.
In other words, he’s so intent on not saying he’s wrong, he’ll run the most outlandish ridiculous take, ignoring all that make sense, living in his little world of denial.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Priest: “most fans would say a gm is window dressing anyway”??
You lie. Bad enough you’re a lemming, but you lie.
NO FANS SAY THAT..just you.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Hiring a GM is a great idea, if Al doesn’t tell him what to do.
They can hire a GM on paper, but that won’t matter if Al is still directing the drafts and player acquisitions.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Monte Poole just hates Al Davis…………period
Most of the stuff Monte writes makes no damn sense anyway. And the little logic he does use is specious at best. If Al wants a GM he’ll hire one but that GM will do what Mr Davis wants done…..period
Mr Davis already has people in place that he trust, all we need is a few pieces in the right places to win. This is a very young team lacking confidence and that comes from winning. Nnamdi himself said and I agree they’re already got it going in the right direction and hopfully next year will show that.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Priesttj
I dont know any coaches or bottlewashers, I do know two football players but rarely keep in touch with them. At the gym I used to workout at, I chatted couple times with Dana Stubblefield, he himself said that NE Spread Offense is unstoppable in 2007. I know another cat who is related to Ellis Hobbs and he said that NE implements spread offense, so my question to you, why is it that you can construct a counter argument or show me a link that says NE doesnt implement spread offense? I gave you links, do you wanna meet football players who will tell you that?
January 21st, 2010 at 10:43 pm
Priesttj
Nnamdi said in ESPN that he wished he played in GB just like Charles Woodson, he said he wished the Raiders implemented that kind of philosophy to use him in 4 positions. He already stated his dislike for being used 90% in man to man situations. He wants Cable to remain the coach cause he wants continuity. Why are you quoting Nnamdi when he clearly wants changes in how the Raiders operate, come on man get your facts right.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Posters write that the Raiders have better luck in the later rounds of the draft.
I was just reading about the Shrine game and not many coaches are there to watch the players. It’s almost all scouts.
So if Al doesn’t get out to see any of the players, he’ll have to let the scouts make the picks in the later rounds, therefore, we get better players in those rounds.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Raiders4eve,
I’m sure that Nnamdi would prefer the challenge of playing man up against the opponents best WR, just like Revis does.
He could probably live with the 90% man to man if he had that chance.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Priesttj,Im goin fishing as soon as the rain stops.Now you will concede that we have been JUNK for seven years,right! And the ONE constant has been AL in charge,without a GM,like say Bruce Allen,or anyone else,right? So,how many teams playing this weekend have a GM in place,JUST ASKIN,AL cant do it ALONE,stop being such an AL homer!
January 21st, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Priesttj
You say you agree with Nnamdi, so do you agree with him that Raiders should implement a 3-4 defense with high blitzes and using Nnamdi all over the field just like Woodson (BTW he is defensive player of the year if u didnt know)instead of Mr Davis beloved Man defense?
January 21st, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Raiders4eve, when you say spread exactly what do you mean? do you know? When I say the Pat’s run a verticle game. That means the direction of the patterns they run. The opposite would be a horizontal offense which primarily utilizes horizontal routes crosses, slants, drags and the like.
The vericle game utilizes digs, go’s, deep outs and post patterns. Now when you say spread what are you referring to? Cause maybe ou just don’t understand what verticle means.
The word spread is used very loosely. The Pat’s do not run the spread in it’s truest form.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:49 pm
good night nation!
January 21st, 2010 at 10:53 pm
No I don’t I think what we do is unigue to what Nnamdi’s abilities are. The reason he drafted nnamdi is to implement a defense that is aggressive in the front7. The secondary should be aggressive with the safety play. CWood played that same position and never complained because he knew what the defense phylosophy was. Huff and the safeties have t be more agressive and become better playmakers. Nnamdi can go to the HOF playing that position. He’s already getting tha money and the status.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:54 pm
# NorthernD Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Raiders4eve,
I’m sure that Nnamdi would prefer the challenge of playing man up against the opponents best WR, just like Revis does.
He could probably live with the 90% man to man if he had that chance.
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You are funny man lol. Read this http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d814aa692&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
let me quote what Nnamdi said
Asomugha said he gets a little jealous when he talks to former teammate Charles Woodson about all the different defenses that the Green Bay Packers run. Asomugha cited an interview by New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton, who credited his team’s defensive turnaround with taking some of the best parts of what many teams do.
Asomugha said he lobbies his coaches so much for those type of changes that they laugh at him when he keeps bringing it up. He said simplicity in itself isn’t always a problem, citing the success the Tampa Bay Buccaneers had earlier this decade running the Cover 2 on almost every play. But the Raiders apparently don’t have the talent to succeed that way.
Good I rest my case.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:57 pm
Aso also stated, quite clearly, that he was tired of the Raiders D being so predictable.
Jerry had a thread on it.
Aso pointed out a few defenses he wished the Raiders would run.
For that matter, Aso also was one of the first to state Al made a mistake letting Hall go.
(So did Gabril Wilson. Even though Wilson led the team in tackles, that comment still got him released.)
January 21st, 2010 at 10:58 pm
You’ve got to be kidding?! the Raiders don’t have the talent to play coverfreakin2? what a joke!!
January 21st, 2010 at 10:58 pm
Sorry, Raiders4eve..posted that not seeing yours.
In other words, I agree
January 21st, 2010 at 10:59 pm
All this speculation, discontent, complaining and worthless prognosticating mean nothing because I have no faith that Al Davis knows what the he!! he’s doing.
What the he!! happened to all that talk about Al being in failing health? 81 yrs. old and in failing health, yet he still makes all the important decisions?
I have a mental illness that makes me care about what happens to this disaster called the Raiders.
Do any of you truly feel the Raiders will be any better than 5-11 next year? Than why the he!! are we talking about it? It’s so hopeless.
Is there any reason to have any hope at all that the Raiders will not lose double digit games next year?
Everybody seems to jut be waiting for AL to die and it isn’t gonna happen, so really, what does a Raider fan do besides sit and wait twenty years for Al to die. This talk of failing health has been going on for the last 10 yrs.
January 21st, 2010 at 11:00 pm
Go root for another team crybaby!!
January 21st, 2010 at 11:05 pm
Priesttj
You also please read what Nnamdi wishes.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d814aa692&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
Btw, what I mean by spread offense is clear but I will copy and paste what I mean from Wiki. The spread offense begins with a no-huddle approach with the quarterback in the shotgun formation much of the time. The fundamental nature of the spread offense involves spreading the field horizontally using 3, 4, and even 5-receiver sets (some implementations of the spread also feature wide splits between the offensive linemen).
Priesttj
The more you spread the offense, the more the defense is forced to cover deep which makes them highly unlikely to blitz.
Now under vertical offense is going deep while giving the QB enough time to through either by 3, 5 or even 7 steps drop.
January 21st, 2010 at 11:05 pm
An 81 yr.old man in “failing health” dies…He doesn;t keep hanging around, no less continue to run the day to day operations of a multi million dollar operation. And he doesn’t just run it, he MICRO MANAGES IT by all accounts. This is ridiculous. Something has to be done. This is nuts. You’re telling me that it’s conceivable, even probable that we could be looking at a guy in his 90’s calling in football plays from a press box in a professional football league? This is insane and yet it is allowed. When does it stop/ When WILL it stop? What if Al lives to be 110, will he still be closely running the day to day operations of a multi million dollar organization?
January 21st, 2010 at 11:07 pm
Priesttj
Vertical Passing is way different philosophy then Spread Offense, do you at least agree to that?
January 21st, 2010 at 11:09 pm
You can be spineless?
No balls?
Just go with the flow?
Never demand better?
Buy into everything you’re told.
Only say what you’re told to say?
Accept defeat because..well..because it’s Al’s team, and he can lose if he wants to lose?
Keep making excuses for all the dumb decisions, saying “wouldn’t have helped anyway”?
In other words, do exactly like priest does..do nothing.
January 21st, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Priestjj,
If you are talking to me you can shut the f up punk ass.
I’ve been a Raider fan all my life that’s why I’m “concerned” and I’m sick of losing. All I hear you say is how great Jamarcus Russell is so that shows me what a pathetic POS loser you are. By the way, he’s the 32nd rated passer in the NFL genius.
You may be happy with 7 straight double digit losing seasons, but I am not.
January 21st, 2010 at 11:10 pm
I know what the spread is predicated on….everyone knows that. But that does not mean that the spread desn’t employ verticle properties.
And that’s what I’m trying to get you to understand running a spread doesn’t mean NOT running a verticle game. Get It?
The tru spread is trying to get 4-5 recievers in every play irregards to the down and distance.
January 21st, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Sorry to repeat this bad news..but..you recall what Al said last year, when asked when he plans on retiring??
Al: “When we win TWO more Super Bowl’s”
In other words, he’s not going anywhere.
And considering his mother lived past 100? Might be a while..
January 21st, 2010 at 11:14 pm
Then keep crying sissy!! your choice crybaby!!
January 21st, 2010 at 11:17 pm
# NorthernD Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Hiring a GM is a great idea, if Al doesn’t tell him what to do.
They can hire a GM on paper, but that won’t matter if Al is still directing the drafts and player acquisitions.
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Yeah and the moron owner Al Davis will just hire a puppet GM/Personel Guy…..just like the Head Coaches he hires.
Typical idiotic old man!
January 21st, 2010 at 11:20 pm
So that makes everybody on here a crybaby, cuz I don’t think I’m the only one here that is not happy with the way things have been going.
What it makes YOU is a pathetic pollanna that thinks everything is just fine.
Your butt buddy Jamarcus is the worst QB in the NFL, and you gleefully accept it all.
January 21st, 2010 at 11:20 pm
Raiders4eve, look man the true spead is to try and get so many recievers in the pattern that somene is always open they want to dink and dunk true. But that is not all the Pat’s do they get verticle on you real quick if you focus on Welker. That’s what I’m talking about If you watch the spread that say Florida runs there are several verticale routes. The WCO rarely if ever employed verticle routes unless the gameplan was tweeked to take advantage of a team the didn’t cover well deep.
They were only looking to get 1st downs while the spread employs both horizonta and verticle routes. Bu the Pat’s do not exclusively run the spread.
January 21st, 2010 at 11:21 pm
# priesttj Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 11:00 pm
Go root for another team crybaby!!
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Hey moron!
Is that all that you and Norco Bob and the few Al Davis worshippers who think he can do no wrong have to say to people who want TRUE change in this organization so they can get back to the business of WINNING football games again?
Poor little girls like you and the others just can’t handle the truth huh about how much Al Davis has ruined the Raiders organization and team??
What a bunch of little c**k s u k a s you pathetic Al Davis worhsippers are.
January 21st, 2010 at 11:23 pm
# djohnnyg Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 11:20 pm
So that makes everybody on here a crybaby, cuz I don’t think I’m the only one here that is not happy with the way things have been going.
What it makes YOU is a pathetic pollanna that thinks everything is just fine.
Your butt buddy Jamarcus is the worst QB in the NFL, and you gleefully accept it all.
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Exactly….Priesst and Norco act like Al Davis is paying them money to try and defend his losing ways the last 7 years!
News update Priesst…..your NOT John Herrera! Nor should you want to me him! LOL
January 21st, 2010 at 11:24 pm
# priesttj Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 11:14 pm
Then keep crying sissy!! your choice crybaby!!
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Little crack head pansy Al Davis lap dog…..
January 21st, 2010 at 11:26 pm
Yeah most of you are crybabies, whine and cry is your favorite thing to do. So go ahead whine and cry sissy.
January 21st, 2010 at 11:26 pm
Raiders4eve,
Thanks for posting that article.
I guess he wouldn’t be happy with just playing man up.
He is right, they need to diversify the coverages and fronts.
I’m sure any system they install would still be too simple for him though, with that massive brain of his.
January 21st, 2010 at 11:28 pm
post76,Priesttj,why are you pissed off that so many of us,99% at least, want the LOSING to stop? Were all Raider fans,in my case its taken these last seven years to get here,that things must change,period!I not only hate whats happened to the team,but Al as well. Hire the GM!!!!!!!
January 21st, 2010 at 11:33 pm
Gilbert, lol just how goofy are you man? You think I like losing your crazy.
I’m losing and you whinny ass fans that can’t see past an article Jerry writes or some lamebrain post.
Half of you have no idea what it is you’re talking about it’s just a whine and cry session everyday. Don’t you get sick of saying the same damn stupidass crap everyday?
January 21st, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Priesttj
I agree, Pats do implement vertical offense along with the Spread Offense, but mainly they are known as spread offense team in this league just like the Dolphins are known for their wildcat.
January 21st, 2010 at 11:40 pm
# priesttj Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 11:14 pm
Then keep crying sissy!! your choice crybaby!!
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You’re like this little insecure child.
Seriously.
You aren’t capable of being rational.
People who want better for the Raiders you get all defensive and agitated.
You act as if your worth is dependent on how YOU view the state of the Raiders.
Yes, in other words, you live vicariously through a football team.
When they win, YOU feel you’re a winner.
Lose? Yep, you obviously feel like a loser.
Al gets challenged? YOU feel less of a man if you don’t back him.
Al signs Russell..so..you feel, regardless of all logic, that YOU MUST BACK RUSSELL.
You equate your own worth with how you view the team.
You’re a grown man..and you post: ”
Then keep crying sissy!! your choice crybaby!!”
What’s sad is, because of your disorder, you can’t comprehend what I just said..which goes with your denial.
You’re kind of on the edge, aren’t you?
January 21st, 2010 at 11:42 pm
Whatever man, people say spread everytime they see 3 wides. It’s crazy!! If that’s the case the Raiders run the spread too!!
January 21st, 2010 at 11:43 pm
Priest,
Your # 79 post was just a mumbo jumbo mix of words that make no sense. Quit trying to pretend as if you know anything about football. Just because you can use “football words” in a paragraph doesn’t make you knowledgeable about the game. Your credibility is zero. Aren’t you the same pathetic wannabe that got laughed off the post game show on the Raider flagship? Yeah, thought so.
I ask legitmate questions as to whether I should have any hope that the Raiders will ever tuen things around during Al’s lifetime and all you can do is respond with immature,grade school level retorts.
I realize you have the mental capacity of a 3rd grader, but you might want to try concealing it a little better.
January 21st, 2010 at 11:43 pm
NothernD
Its ok, I just wanted to point out to Priesttj that Nnamdi himself is not happy with AL’s philosophy just like Gannon disagrees with AL. Al needs to listen to his key players and allow some changes in the philosophy.
Personally, I would love our defense to switch to the 3-4 cause thats the system that fits Seymour, Ellis and Scott. All we need is a true NT which is hard to find but we can draft a guy like Cody from Albama and we are good to go.
January 21st, 2010 at 11:45 pm
# priesttj Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 11:33 pm
Gilbert, lol just how goofy are you man? You think I like losing your crazy.
I’m losing and you whinny ass fans that can’t see past an article Jerry writes or some lamebrain post.
Half of you have no idea what it is you’re talking about it’s just a whine and cry session everyday. Don’t you get sick of saying the same damn stupidass crap everyday?
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On that note, don’t you get sick of defending everything Al does? Of defending Russell? Of stating “GM’s do nothing”? Or saying “Cable’s fault, not Russel’s”?
See, it’s a blog. You can agree, or disagree. You can be happy with the state, or you can be PO’ed with how things are going.
HOWEVER..YOU DON’T SEE THOSE WHO ARE PO’ED going off on those who state ‘I’m happy with everything”. Sure, we’ll disagree..state “Are you serious”?
But you? Everyone who complains, you rush to say “leave” or “crybaby”..in other words, it bothers you..YOU..that people are..complaining…about..something you need to feel good about.
Get it now?
January 21st, 2010 at 11:45 pm
Goodnight everyone hope we hear good news tomm
January 21st, 2010 at 11:45 pm
post 86,please read the last sentence of youre post,cuz that is YOU! HOMER/SHILL/ ps, Hire the GM,out!
January 21st, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Priesttj
I agree, Pats do implement vertical offense along with the Spread Offense, but mainly they are known as spread offense team in this league just like the Dolphins are known for their wildcat.
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It’s a modified vertical game.
The Pats usually have Welker running crossing routes on a dump off if Brady doesn’t have time to go deep.
The Raiders will keep a back and a second TE in to block, instead of sending them out into the pattern.
The problem with running a true vertical game from the spread is lack of blocking.
The Raiders will send 2 or 3 into the pattern, all deep.
The Pats will send 4 or 5, but two will be dump offs.
January 21st, 2010 at 11:51 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 11:43 pm
NothernD
Its ok, I just wanted to point out to Priesttj that Nnamdi himself is not happy with AL’s philosophy just like Gannon disagrees with AL. Al needs to listen to his key players and allow some changes in the philosophy.
Personally, I would love our defense to switch to the 3-4 cause thats the system that fits Seymour, Ellis and Scott. All we need is a true NT which is hard to find but we can draft a guy like Cody from Albama and we are good to go.
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Keeping with what Nnamdi said, I think switching back from 43 to 34 would be the way to go. They did that back in the 90’s with pretty good success.
January 21st, 2010 at 11:51 pm
Nnamdi needs to shutup and play………..period
All players want to do something they think works for them. We don’t have the talent IMO to play a 3/4 although we do run it in some situations. If we add, well maybe now that I think of it. The switch of Scott to OLB does give us that ability. We do it quite a bit now. It’s just not our base defense that’s all.
I have no problem running a 3/4 or 4/3 as long as it’s effective makes no never mind.
Yeah you may be right as I think of it they could pretty much do whatever they wanted with Dez Bryant and the way Matt S developed. We have some veru impressive talent on defense.
January 21st, 2010 at 11:55 pm
NorthernD, they’re not all deep we use the same principles that the Pat’s do. We use a man in the short zones and TE intermediate and a clear out with a post or 9 route. It’s every level. It forces t play the entire field. We run a lot of digs and some drags but not enough drags IMO which would help the QB.
January 22nd, 2010 at 1:30 am
Digs, curls and hooks would help JaMarcus the most. He seems to be better when he can just lock onto a receiver and hit him with the fastball. His throws tend to be off more when they run more complex, touch routes.
With the Raiders personel, what kind of offence could they run?
The current Cable offence seems to be a mish mash of plays scripted on a chalkboard with no idea of the players they have, or the flow of the game.
Could they run?:
Colts offence- simple pre-snap with lots of post snap adjustments depending on the defence?
No- that would require a QB and WR working on all the possible reactions and working OT. Not likely with JaMarcus.
Gruden offence-Multiple pre-snap sets and motion.
Possible, but would require lots of OT and practice.
Shanahan ZBS- Basic formations, stretching the run wide and creating cutback lanes.
No-the key is having a legit QB bootleg option. JaMarcus is too slow, Gradkowski too fragile.
IMO, the best offence is a simplified Patriot spread offence. Three WR with TE.
Easy pre-snap, have one or two keys, and two or three options.
JLH is not Welker. So they could use Murphy in that role.
They would have to beef up the line in the draft, though.
January 22nd, 2010 at 1:33 am
# Seymour Bush Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Norv Turner runs a vertical passing offense. They run the ball well and then chuck it deep down the field. His team went 12-4 this year.
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Seymour – way off on this one. They were the 2nd worst rushing team in the league this year. They were a pass first offense just like the Colts are this year.
January 22nd, 2010 at 1:41 am
Late night tip, I know nobody’s going to read this anyway. But just wanted to say, Jerry, how did Gruden finesse the situation better than Kiffin? Seems to me Gruden came in and cleaned house, too. Didn’t Gruden clash with Jeff George right from the get go? Al’s guy? I think Gruden was given more choice of staff, too. I recall reading once that Al told him to just keep Willie Brown on. From there, it was his call. I don’t think Gruden finessed the situation any better than Kiffin. I think Gruden was given more control, period. My theory is that Al hired Kiffin to excite fans, thinking they were getting another Chucky, due to Kiffin’s age, etc, but really had no intention of letting him coach the team.
January 22nd, 2010 at 1:56 am
Somebody read it.
IMO, the biggest difference between Gruden and Kiffen? Gruden could sell ice to an eskimo. Kiffen looks like someone who needs a slap.
I think Gruden could talk to Al, and got more leeway. He sounds positive and up beat when he talks.
Kiffen probably just irritated Al. He sounds whiny.
January 22nd, 2010 at 2:07 am
Kiffin got given a lot of slack his first year. He was allowed to bring in players he wanted. Play who he wanted. Do what he wanted. It really did seem that Al tried not to interfere.
January 22nd, 2010 at 2:10 am
Now one thing I want to point out about all these “coaching rumors”. Here’s how you can tell it’s bogus to a large extent. Notice all the “inside sources familiar with the coaching situation” (i.e. reporters) who say that these people were already interviewed and he’s interested in Moss, Gilbride etc.
Now….notice how ALL of these supposed head coach interviews were on people not in the league. So, there’s no need to request permission from other teams to interview them. So there’s no way to really prove it one way or the other. The two assistanct coaches (Line Coach & QB coach) we interviewed could be verified.
January 22nd, 2010 at 2:23 am
Kiffin brought in Williams from Detroit who sucked. He brought in McCown who sucked. He brought in the coaches he wanted (except for DC). And probably 1st year if he tried to bring in his dad he would’ve been allowed to. 2nd year he was already being such an idiot that Al and him got into a little beatch fight which was stupid from both sides.
January 22nd, 2010 at 2:25 am
It’s like when they sign a free agent at 12:01. You know there were plenty of secret phone calls going on.
IMO, if they wanted to keep an interview secret, they could do it very easily.
I think all these stories are just to keep the coaches from asking for too much money or control. Make it look like Al has plenty of options…
January 22nd, 2010 at 2:28 am
Comparing Gruden to Kiffin is like…comparing Tom Brady to Jeff Garcia.
Brady marries the hottest chick on the planet, and Garcia loses his girlfriend to the back-up quarterback. And T.O. calls him gay.
January 22nd, 2010 at 3:47 am
“the regression of Cable’s hand-picked offensive line.”
I’m not sure the entire O line was “hand picked” by Cable.
Gallery was already there. So was Henderson, Carlisle AND Green.
He may have ahd a say in Satele, don’t know but Chris Morris was drafted in 2006 while Cable was still in Atlanta.
Still, with choices like Kwame Harris, Khalif Barnes and Eric Pears don’t inspire alot of hope in the choices he actually may have had a say in.
I think Langston Walker was more of a no choice at all situation, so can’t really include him.
If Cable and the ZBS stays, I pray they get a new center and revamp the entire right side.
I hope more Cable’s recent choices were bargain shopping and a simple matter of trying to choose the best possible from the discard pile.
I hope he gets more time with the O line in 2010 too…
January 22nd, 2010 at 4:20 am
Good Morning NATION!!!!
January 22nd, 2010 at 4:32 am
Until the Raiders put together a decent offensive line and get some decent play at QB, they’re going to be mediocre at best.
Doesn’t matter who the coach is.
The fact is we have one of, if not the worst O-line in the NFL.
The fact is Russell was the worst starting QB in the NFL.
Add a raw, inexperienced group of WRs to the mix and you’ve got an offense that can’t score enough points for the team to succeed.
Jamarcus Russell can NOT be salvaged. He can get in shape and develop a work ethic. Won’t matter. He’s too stupid and inaccurate to be an NFL QB.
The O-line needs to be completely rebuilt. With the exception of Henderson and the injury prone Gallery, this unit needs to be completely revamped.
Until the Raiders can score points they’re not going to be competitive.
It’s that simple.
There is no easy fix by changing coaches. A coaching change might be warranted. But it’s not a cure all.
Al Davis must do a better job of drafting, making free agent acquisitions, and trades.
Build an O-line, accept the fact that Russell is a monumental bust, and go from there.
Easier said than done.
January 22nd, 2010 at 4:43 am
Vertical game vs West Coast… Granted the Saints and Pats rely on big plays down the field. I’ll admit I see a lot more pats games over saints living here in New Hampshire. The pats rely on seller and falk on underneath routes. That is where their success starts. I’m all for big plays down the field but there low percentage plays. I’m sick of our running backs. Putting us in manageable 3rd and 4 or 5 and all of our receivers are running 15 + yard routes…. Pick up the first down!
January 22nd, 2010 at 5:14 am
Once again,Nnamdi21 has hit it on the head….
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I hope more Cable’s recent choices were bargain shopping and a simple matter of trying to choose the best possible from the discard pile
January 22nd, 2010 at 5:44 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
So….looks like another L O N G offseason…
Oh well…life of a Raider Fan!!!
January 22nd, 2010 at 5:45 am
Cable and his hand picked offensive line is like saying you can have the first pick at the junk yard…Once Davis blows the premium picks on track stars, and picks pretty good later round prospects, then cable can choose from the FA bargain bin. He wanted one of those “cadillacs” as he put it last year. We could be sitting here with M Oher and a vastly improved Jabustus Russ, but no. (I know Jamanboobs is only concerned about his progression through the church’s chicken drive thru line) point being, hand picked is far from the truth.
January 22nd, 2010 at 5:49 am
Wait…Brady married the what chick on the planet? That is by opinion, Northern D. I think Garcia’s wife is way more hot than Gisselle…or whatever her name is. And, of course, it is my opinion. Also my opinion is the mother of Brady’s first child is “sexier” than Gisselle…(can’t remember her name…Bridget someone)…
January 22nd, 2010 at 5:49 am
Comon Jerry, this has never been Cable’s “handpicked Oline”.
He has made due with what has been available and was hit hard with injuries this season.
You build a solid Oline through high round draft picks and we will start that this year.
Mr Davis builds teams from the outside in and the lines are the next step.
January 22nd, 2010 at 5:49 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, HAS ANYONE SHAKEN AL 2 SEE IF HE’S AWAKE, HE MAY NOT B SURE THE SEASON IS OVER…
January 22nd, 2010 at 5:53 am
LMAO Dirt Lot!!!
January 22nd, 2010 at 5:57 am
I think now…Herrera has to crank the box to see if Al will pop up awake…but, I think Herrera is also scared that Al will punch him when his box opens!
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:01 am
HERRERA MOW’S AL’S LAWN AND WASHES HIS CAR ON FRIDAY’S IN BETWEEN TRIP’S 2 THE COFFEE POT.
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:01 am
lmao Dirt-Lot!
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:09 am
SHYT JUST GET’S FRUSTRATING AS HELL U KNOW.BEEN A BAD STRETCH 4 ORGANASATION , PLAYER’S, FAN’S ALIKE I GUESS
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:11 am
too many blowout losses and the regression of Cable’s hand-picked offensive line.
But it might be easier to bring in a new direction to the offense with a coordinator and play-caller.
-Jerry Mac
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How is a new OC going to fix Russell, Satele, Carlisle & Green?
play calling was only a part of the problem last year.
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:17 am
HEY ROCKSTAR,HOW ‘BOUT A DBL-SHOT THIS MORNING,ENOUGH OF THAT WEAK AZZ COFFEE WE BEEN DRINKIN…
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:18 am
Double shot of expresso mixed in…
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:22 am
Trade DMAC for a double shot of expresso! (sic)
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:23 am
Good morning Bo…
That better be one heck of a shot!!! LOL
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:24 am
yuck!
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:24 am
you guys help yourselves to the breakfast buffet…
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:26 am
holy smokes!
this lady I work with lost her mom yesterday. her brother is in a coma and isn’t expected to make it past this week. her dad is in a nursing home
she’s been trying to take care of everybody and still work 5 days a week …
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:28 am
Waufle would be an upgrade. Also need a new LB coach. And I still say we need Rathman back.
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:29 am
WAS THINKING MORE ALONG THE LINE OF JOHNNY WALKER BLUE-LBL OR THERE ABOUTS.
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:32 am
Wow RRS. Hope she has other family to get her through. Tell her not to worry about the Raiders for awhile…lol.
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:36 am
THERE ARE MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THING’S THAN FOOTBALL ROCKSTAR,NO ONE KNOW’S THAT MORE THAN U THIS PAST YEAR,HELP HER IF U CAN.
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:37 am
I don’t think the staff is the problem on defense. I am a Mike Waufle fan though.
I think the staff issues would be resolved by replacing Cable, Lal & Hanson …
so look for all 3 to be retained
most of the problems lie with personnel imo. who’s on the roster and then who’s starting
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:38 am
Good morning AM crew!!
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:38 am
I havent posted players just positions that imo we should draft….
With our 1st pick….
Lamarr Houston, Texas
Height: 6-2. Weight: 300.
Projected 40 Time: 5.02.
Projected Round (2010): 3-4.
11/28/09: Having a monster year for the Longhorns with 37 tackles, 13.5 TFL and five sacks in 11 games.
2/12/09: Accumulated six TFL and 1.5 TFL in 2008.
7/30/08: Lamarr Houston started 11 games as a sophomore. While his bread and butter is stopping the run, Houston pitched in with 12 tackles for loss and 4.5 sacks. He also registered 66 total tackles. Houston was an All-Big XII honorable mention.
And with our 2nd pick….
D’Anthony Smith, Louisiana Tech
Height: 6-2. Weight: 300.
Projected 40 Time: 5.04.
Projected Round (2010): 4-5.
11/28/09: Has 48 tackles, 4.5 TFL and 2.5 sacks in 11 games. A 4-3 under tackle only.
We play a 4-3….So we dont need a NT type like Cody or that dude from Tennesse,imo
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:42 am
how to fix the defense, personnel wise:
1. cut Warren
2. paycut for Kelly
3. add a quality DT/NT in the draft or FA
4. slide Morrison to SLB or put him on the trade block
5. add a quality MLB in the draft or FA
6. let Eugene & Routt walk in FA
7. give Mitchell some reps as nickel corner
8. add a quality CB for depth (round 3 or lower) in the draft or FA
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:42 am
or of course trade down and still try and get those 2 true 4-3 DT’s
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:43 am
That will be ideal, Rockstar! Once our D can stop the run…everything will come into play (with your scenario).
Thanks for the breakfast buffett…
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:43 am
Do we keep Huff Rockstar ?
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:44 am
Morning NATION! Cable watch day 19… <—- wtf? 19???
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:45 am
Trade down!!!??? Wash your mouth out with soap and water 4eva!! Never happen.
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:46 am
I say we keep Huff! He has developed this year! Next year may be the year for him. If he digress like Russell did this year…then cut him!
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:46 am
how to fix the defense, personnel wise:
1. paycut for Russell
2. open competition at QB
3. new play caller
4. cut Satele, Carlisle & Green or keep them as reserves only
5. add quality C, RG & RT in the draft or FA
6. find a way to use all 3 RB’s
7. start the most productive WR’s (walker in the doghouse? DHB starting as a rookie with stone hands?)
8. more double TE sets (good for the run game. free up Miller in the passing game too)
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:47 am
offense*
sorry!
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:47 am
And….sinse I am not a good cutter and paster ,add 1 more please
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Brian Price, UCLA – Scouting Report
Height: 6-2. Weight: 300.
Projected 40 Time: 5.05.
Projected Round (2010): Top 25 Pick.
1/3/10: Brian Price has declared for the 2010 NFL Draft. Price just had an amazing junior campaign, so even though he’s just 21 in April, coming out early and striking while the iron’s hot was the right move.
11/20/09: A 4-3 under tackle only, Brian Price has 16.5 TFL and five sacks in 10 games as a junior.
5/19/09: Despite being a sophomore, Brian Price recorded 14.5 TFL and 4.5 sacks.
Any one of these 3 true 4-3 DT’s will do us wonders because Warren and Kelly just dont have “it”
Bo I would be willing to trade Dmac for “it”!
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:48 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:46 am
I say we keep Huff! He has developed this year! Next year may be the year for him. If he digress like Russell did this year…then cut him!
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huff is due to make $5.75M this year…
smarter to cut him and let him see what he can get on the open market…
then, if still available at a reasonable price… sign him…
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:49 am
I know Neilb!!!!! Trade-down is like blasphemy ’round heh
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:49 am
i would trade DMAC for the right to use the word “it”…
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:50 am
Do we keep Huff Rockstar ?
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of course. He’ll start 16 games at FS
thats why I said to try MM at nickel corner. can’t be any worse than Routt in that role. plus we’ve got to find out if he’s a player or not
the other option is to have MM play FS and Huff play nickel corner in the nickle & dime sets
either would be ok I suppose …
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:51 am
Rockstar…
Can’t disagree with any of that.
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:52 am
Rockstar…
Can’t disagree with any of that.
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thats why I should be GM!
lol
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:54 am
I’ve always been at a loss to understand why Huff hasn’t been used as a nickel corner.
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:54 am
BSJ,
if I were GM your boy Danny Southwick would be more than just an intern.
put up a billboard for me on I-880 !!!
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:54 am
I see what you’re saying Pete…
But what if he agrees to a pay cut? I guess that falls along the lines of what you state about a “reasonable price”.
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:54 am
ROCKSTAR FOR GM!!!
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:55 am
ROCKSTAR FOR PRESIDENT AND GM!!!
Ok, not 880, but…its a start!
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:56 am
MM needs a lot of work though if he’s going to be left alone in coverage. he needs a mentor
anybody got Rod Woodson’s cell # ???
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:56 am
That’s the players sorted,now all we need is a game plan for the 21st century.
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:58 am
http://www.fanfeedr.com/nfl/2010/01/22/ravens-qb-coach-jackson-still-interviewing-with-raiders
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:58 am
ROCKSTAR FOR PRESIDENT
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I don’t think I’d get many votes on this site Hwnrdr.
maybe 1 or 2
I’m too conservative for 99 percent of you fellers
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:00 am
The AM crew will support you, Rockstar! Wait…the REAL AM crew…
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:02 am
That’s the players sorted,now all we need is a game plan for the 21st century.
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somebody needs to explain to Al a brand new philosophy. there’s a new way to put pressure on a QB. it’s called “blitz” and sometimes you can “disguise” coverages
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:02 am
U GOT MY VOTE ROCKSTAR,LIKE CHICAGO,VOTE EARY-VOTE OFTEN…
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:03 am
hire Dick LeBeau & Hwnrdr to run the defense!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:03 am
MM can’t play nickel corner…those guys cover slot receivers like Welker. MM needs to develop his reads and coverage skills against RBs and TEs. Huff could perhaps play nickel corner.
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:03 am
hire Hue Jackson & Dirt Lot to run the offense!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:04 am
EARLY THAT IS..
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:04 am
You People:
Trade DMAC for Rod Woodson’s cell #!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:04 am
BSJ to be JaWalrus’ personal trainer at SeaWorld!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:06 am
I KIND OF WANTED 2 B N CHARGE OF THE RAIDERETT’S BUT I WILL B A GOOD SOLDIER AND RUN THE OFFENSE..
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:07 am
Hey 408!!!!
Didnt see you sneak in =)
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:08 am
You People:
trash Cable’s playbook and steal the green one from Coach Klein (the waterboy)!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:09 am
4eva to judge Raiderette auditions
(sheesh. i’m just asking for a lawsuit, aren’t I?)
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:09 am
4eva.. Ha! I’m practicing my spy techniques.. Maybe I can get a job spying on the team 4 Big Al!!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:09 am
I second that, Dirt Lot…LOL!!! But it will be an honor! Heck if the ol’ man pays well, I’ll give quality H2O to the players…
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:10 am
Jerry Mac to fill the role vacated by John Herrerra …
Jerry, get me some kookaburra wings from outback!
NOW!!!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:10 am
Great minds think alike Rockstar…with our references to The Waterboy!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:11 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:09 am
4eva to judge Raiderette auditions
(sheesh. i’m just asking for a lawsuit, aren’t I?)
From who? The Raiderettes or 4eva?
Wait…I don’t think 4eva will mind!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:11 am
I’d be quite happy just to be the person who stands behind the Head coach with all the wire in his hands.
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:12 am
408 to run the scouting dept
neilb is strength & conditioning coach
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:13 am
Rockstar….
Take heart! There would be no law-suits because I would treat the Raiderettes like the gorgeous,fine-azz intelligent babes they are,and they would like it =)
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:14 am
LMAO Hwnrdr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:16 am
You want to fix this offense?
#1 without question is upgrading the Oline. No holes to run through, no protection to speak of what so ever!
#2 Hire an experienced OC/play caller!
#3 Open competition at QB between Russell and Losman
#4 Open competition at RB between DMAC and Bush
#5 OPen competition at WR between Chaz, Murphy, JLH, DHB, and Nick Miller.
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:17 am
FIRST GAME OF SEASON , SECOND SERIES OF DOWN’S, NEW OFF.CORD. DIRT-LOT GET’S A PHONE CALL FROM AL ,”DIRT,ROCKSTAR HAS BEEN FIRED 4 CAUSE, IF WE DO NOT PUT RUSSELL IN AND THROW DEEP AT LEAST TWICE THIS NEXT SERIES ,YOUR GONE 2..”
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:17 am
Yep with 408’s “You too can be a Spy” collection….
408 in charge of scouting would be the way 2go,imo =)
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:18 am
You want to fix this defense?
#1 Replace Morrison at MLB
#2 Add a big fat guy next to Kelly, and move Warren to backup.
#3 Stop playing Stan Routt at Nickle corner.
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:20 am
And by the way …
Huff AND Nnamdi should be used like Woodson is being used in GB.
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:21 am
Chris Carr would have been a great nickel corner…shoulda kept him.
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:21 am
Trade DMAC for Chris Carr!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:22 am
Jhill,you’re a genius!!!!
All we got do is switch the LINES!!!!
You say we need to fix the O-line because there are no holes to run through. Well our D-Line has PLENTY of holes to run through.Switch the lines and WE B GOOD!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:24 am
no kidding Jhill.
If Nnamdi isn’t shadowing the other team’s best WR we aren’t using him properly.
any idiot coach could say “let’s just move Vincent Jackson & Antonio Gates over to the left side against Branch & Johnson”
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:25 am
CJ is the best nickel corner on the roster!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:29 am
We need to just change DMAC position. Should be slot WR/change of pace backup RB.
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:29 am
Chris Carr would have been a great nickel corner…shoulda kept him.
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BSJ, we never let him go. He was a restricted free agent and Al slapped a tender on him.
Titans upped the tender offer and we chose not to match it. since he was undrafted they didn’t owe us any picks. it’s not like we cut him!
at that point he wasn’t worth millions, as the Titans found out. Routt was at least equal in coverage
Justin Miller was the KR we never should have dropped. Rankin, Russell and Holland on KR was pretty bad this year. We even tried Reece there towards the end! LOL
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:32 am
True RRS. But Carr might come cheap now, as in A TRADE FOR DMAC!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:32 am
Go Colts!
Clark & Freeney out of the Pro Bowl means Miller & Seymour in!
when is the last time the Raiders had as many Pro Bowlers as they did wins in a season?
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:33 am
Morning all!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:33 am
QB Matt Nichols, Eastern Washington
Despite the wind and rain, Nichols had a good day. He’s a big player (6-3, 220 pounds) and he was throwing the ball well in the rain and wind and keeping the nose of the ball down. But the thing that really stuck out was how he looked in the two-minute drill at the end of practice. We liked his composure, decision making and how he took what the defense gave him. He had a good internal clock in the pocket as well. He would go through his progressions, but didn’t bail off them too soon. He would feel the rush and know when to step up or slide and when to deliver the ball. He was quiet most of the week, but he caught our eye today and it will be interesting to see if he can carry this over to Saturday’s game.
C John Estes, Hawaii
Estes used his quick feet to get into position, delivered a strong punch and locked on so he could sustain his blocks during team period. We were also impressed with the range he showed, getting downfield to throw blocks on screens or runs.
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Couple late round prospects that could help our team.
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:34 am
A GREAT WEEKEND 2 EVERYONE,WORK 2 DO..
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:34 am
I’ll take Miller and Seymour in the probowl, but doesn’t it really kinda cheapen the accomplishment.
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:34 am
BSJ, Carr trashed the Raiders as soon as he left town. I doubt Al would take him back now. Even if the trade offer was for a McFadden jersey!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:35 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:04 am
You People:
Trade DMAC for Rod Woodson’s cell #!
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For what? You going to ask him out on a date or something?
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:36 am
lol!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:36 am
I forgot Carr was a bit mouthy afterward.
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:37 am
Hugh Jackson is already sporting the colors:
http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/ninerinsider/2009/01/23/Hugh_Jackson233×315.jpg
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:38 am
Dakota Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:35 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:04 am
You People:
Trade DMAC for Rod Woodson’s cell #!
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For what? You going to ask him out on a date or something?
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For what? For GETTING RID OF THAT MONUMENTAL BUST AND SAVING MILLIONS OF WASTED CAP SPACE!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:41 am
Dakota,
What colors would that be?
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:42 am
Hue kinda looks like Terry Porter than used to play for the T’Wolves, no?
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:42 am
That Jackson is interviewing bodes well for Cable sticking around for another season. The two have worked together in the past and Davis typically lets his head coach hire his coordinators and assistants.
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Well Corkran disagrees with a lot of you, lol!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:44 am
408RAIDER Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:58 am
http://www.fanfeedr.com/nfl/2010/01/22/ravens-qb-coach-jackson-still-interviewing-with-raiders
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wow… he ain’t interviewing for a chance to coach Jamarcus…
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:45 am
The person familiar with the situation said
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Jackson is being considered for offensive coordinator. Cable called plays last season, with Ted Tollner serving as the passing game coordinator.
Cable said Jan. 4 that he is open to vacating the play-calling duties if Davis feels the Raiders are better with someone else in that role.
Jackson has a well-earned reputation for working well with young quarterbacks. He is credited with developing Joe Flacco with the Ravens.
It’s no secret that Davis and the Raiders are intent upon finding the right solution when it comes to getting JaMarcus Russell, a three-year player, to the point where he is the unquestioned starter.
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I wonder why Cable didn’t just quit since it’s obvious so much is being forced upon him?
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:47 am
he ain’t interviewing for a chance to coach Jamarcus…
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who would? thats setting yourself up for failure!
Jackson is smarter than that.
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:48 am
Kelly and Warren… between the two of them… they will make 10M next year…
we could get twice the player for half the cost…
cut’em… sign ‘em back for league minimum, then let them compete…
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:48 am
I wonder why Cable didn’t just quit since it’s obvious so much is being forced upon him?
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because then he wouldn’t have the authority to punch asst coaches or call 4 passing plays from the 2 yard line!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:49 am
Yup…that is why I really don’t respect the guy anymore…Carr went UNDRAFTED!!! The Raiders gave him his break and he trashed the org…hey, I know the org is not all that anymore, but don’t bite the hand that feeds you!!!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:49 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:48 am
I wonder why Cable didn’t just quit since it’s obvious so much is being forced upon him?
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because then he wouldn’t have the authority to punch asst coaches or call 4 passing plays from the 2 yard line!
TOO FUNNY ROCKSTAR!!!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:50 am
I don’t care if the new OC is Tito Jackson, anybody would be a better play caller than Cable.
Cable needs to be unplugged!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:51 am
trade the Walrus for a Jackson 5 album!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:52 am
How did Carr trash the orgo?
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:54 am
So call your shot now Rockstar …
Will Russell cost Jackson his job, lol?
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:55 am
How did Carr trash the org?
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the same way Stuart Schweigert, Dominic Rhodes & LaMont Jordan did.
at least Andrew Walter, Derrick Burgess & Terdell Sands had some class!
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:56 am
Is Paul Hackett already packed up and outta here?
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:56 am
Got to go….
Have a great weekend everyone.
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:58 am
So call your shot now Rockstar …
Will Russell cost Jackson his job, lol?
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great question Jhill, but a bit premature for me to issue a response.
If Jackson is hired as OC and Russell is the starter Week 1 of the regular season we’ll just say Hue is a longshot to have success
I want to see what other changes occur this offseason (if any)
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:02 am
Is Paul Hackett already packed up and outta here?
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the Bears are interested. Hard to know whether or not Al is willing to let him walk though
best thing for the RAIDERS would be to keep Hackett. best thing for Hackett would be to head for Chicago and turn Cutler into the franchise QB they have so much invested in. If he can fix that turnover issue and get a #1 WR then they’ll be competing with the Vikings & Packers next year
Cutler is willing to put the work in. Russell isn’t.
as QB Coach, who would you rather be responsible for?
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:03 am
Rocker,
What did he say? Must have missed it.
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:04 am
Looks like Bayou might have been right about the Hackett Russell beef. He called that back in preseason.
I just don’t see Cable being mad at Russell. I see it more of him backing his staff with Hackett. I mean, how could Cable be mad at the guy who got him the job? If Russell doesn’t sign off on Cable, NO WAY he makes it past interim coach.
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:05 am
Well, it looks like Cable ain’t going anywhere, so you fellas better start getting used to the idea.
As I’ve said for weeks, he’s a good football coach and this would be the right decision.
If they hired a new coach, you guys would be bashing him by week 6, just like you pretty much do every year.
So, let’s all do this together. Repeat after me.
Tom Cable is our head coach.
Tom Cable is our head coach.
Tom Cable is our head coach.
Tom Cable is our head coach.
Tom Cable is our head coach.
There, now you have the hang of it. Keep practicing tonight and it’ll eventually sink in and we can move on to the next topic at hand. . . .
Yeah, I know – I’m a part of one when it comes to pro-Cable sentiments!
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:06 am
Trade DMAC for Jay Cutler!
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:06 am
meant to say “party of one”, not “part of one”
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:07 am
RaiderRon Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:41 am
Dakota,
What colors would that be?
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SnB
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:08 am
I mean, how could Cable be mad at the guy who got him the job? If Russell doesn’t sign off on Cable, NO WAY he makes it past interim coach.
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LOL !!!!
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:10 am
Cmon Smac …
I’ve been screaming Asst Head Coach/Offensive Coordinator since week 3 man!
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:11 am
Have a good weekend, Nation!!!
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:11 am
Dakota,
Are you serious?
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:11 am
Jhill: JaMarcus is gonna have “beef” with any coach that tries to force him to apply himself and improve just about every aspect of his game
Hackett has a reputation as one of the best QB coach’s in the league.
Russell has a reputation as the worst starting QB in the league.
so what do YOU think happened?
was he mean? did he hurt wittle jammy’s feelings?
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:16 am
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=At9X9vGHC_.kw8rx8DCNLX85nYcB?slug=aw-kobelebronw012210&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:18 am
jhill Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:16 am
You want to fix this offense?
#3 Open competition at QB between Russell and Losman
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Are you trying to bait me? Where’s Bruce???
And I agree with your 1-3 (except your obvious omission), but not as much on 4 and 5.
Bush is our best RB, without any doubt. He should be the starter, and the Raiders should be focusing on finding ways to get D-mac in space and down the field. They need to give up the idea of him being a 20 carry back. He is averaging 1 fumble every 20 touches in his career so far, and for every 4 games he plays, he misses 1. He is not that type of back, the sooner they realize it, the sooner they can start using him in more ways where he CAN be effective.
And at WR, competition is great, but if they are going to roll with Russell (yes I said it), can we at least give him some consistancy at WR? Chaz and Murphy are the starters, develop with them, and the other guys can compete for 3rd, 4th, and 5th spots. Bruce can handle commotion at WR, Russell can’t.
And good morning!!!
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:18 am
RaiderRon Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:11 am
Dakota,
Are you serious?
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It is just a picture I found of Jackson wearing black and grey without any obvious Baltimore colors…just giving you an idea of what he might look like as our next HC.
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:19 am
so what do YOU think happened?
was he mean? did he hurt wittle jammy’s feelings?
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LOL!
Don’t know what it is about these kids these days and their since of entitlement. You can’t talk to them a certain way or they feel disrespected. Look at what Russell says about getting on other players. Can’t talk to grown men that way he says.
It’s ridiculous man!
But Weasel reports from AZ that Russell is working with some famous Olympic trainer. He says the gauntlet has been laid down that he get in shape or he will be cut. No were some of us questioning why things like that weren’t mandated from day 1? And not just of Russell, but guys like Bush, Sands, Walker and all the other fat arsses on the team?
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:20 am
“Meanwhile, our old buddy Aaron Wilson has a report for the Carroll County Times that the Raiders definitely won’t confirm. He writes that Ravens quarterbacks coach Hue Jackson is interviewing for Cable’s head-coaching position, in addition to the offensive coordinator job.
The Raiders acknowledged that Jackson was interviewing, and Cable wasn’t involved in the interviews. We’re sure Cable is thrilled with that development.”
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/22/today-in-raiders-jackson-meeting-for-top-job-cable-to-meet-again-too/
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:21 am
I know Jhill –
I’m generalizing of course, while knowing full well that you’re one of the few voices of reason around here.
On another note, why do I have a feeling that Sean Merriman is gonna end up a Raider next year???
I’ve got real mixed thoughts about that. One the one hand, he has the fire that nobody on our defense seems to show visibly. So, I like that.
On the other hand, I’ve always had the suspicion that he’s a classic case of a guy who only played well when juiced up.
And having said that, I also know that it’s a biotch coming back from a torn ACL.
What do you fellas think – worth the gamble? Or is he washed up meat? I’m sure he wouldn’t mind stickin’ it to the Chargers is they let him go.
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:21 am
Typo Vegas, typo, lol!
I would hope that in an open competion at RB and WR that things would develop just as you lay out. Just wanted to stay away from handing the job to someone at ANY position.
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:22 am
Dakota PFT is almost as bad as bleacher report..
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:23 am
Vegas,,
I think we need to add another WR to the group. A solid veteran, maybe a guy like Chris Chambers.
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:23 am
408RAIDER Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:22 am
Dakota PFT is almost as bad as bleacher report..
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I know, but at least it give us something to read…
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:23 am
Just don’t trust Chaz to stay healthy.
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:23 am
Can we just get this resolved for the Senior Bowl next week?
There is the East-West game this weekend, not a big draw, but next week is one of the most important weeks for diagnosing what to do in the draft. Less players involved than the combine, but it is actual football.
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:24 am
Jhill:
I’m with you on Bush being the starter next year. But, as I’ve said a million times, he better come in ready to run hard, EVERY PLAY, ready to bruise, EVERY PLAY, and hold on to the damned ball and NOT ask to come out of the game.
If he does those things, I’m all for him as our go-to back.
If he doesn’t, I’ll be once again explaining all the reasons why Justin Fargas should be running the rock.
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:25 am
Trade DMAC for Chris Chambers!
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:25 am
# jhill Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:23 am
Just don’t trust Chaz to stay healthy.
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True that. Jamarcus is going to get somebody killed with his inaccuracy..
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:26 am
Parrella worked out for us pretty well. How about picking up the fat guy Williams to play next to Warren? Merriman at MLB might not be a bad idea.
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:27 am
Jamal Williams that is. I think I read the Chargers might not bring him back.
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:29 am
why do I have a feeling that Sean Merriman is gonna end up a Raider next year???
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Shawne Merriman only had 36 tackles & 4 sacks this year (a contract year).
we might get him cheap?
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:29 am
Tom Cable is a good head coach?
What gives you that Idea?
Is it his 20-54 record as a HC?
Is it his inability to rally his team to back to back victories?
Is it his play calling?
Is it his choice of signing players like Satele, Harris, Barnes and Pears for the o-line?
Is it his decisions on who gets playing time like Harris over Henderson and Fargas over Bush?
Is it his ability to get the offense to put up 12 points a game?
Yep, what a great head coach!
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:30 am
If Jackson is hired, even as just an OC, it’s pretty obvious he’ll have complete control of the offense. Well, answering to Davis only that is, lol.
With Marshall having the same control over the defense, WTF would Cable be doing?
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:33 am
Last year, we didn’t have an OC.
This year, lol, we won’t have a HC!
We are going to cut out another middle man and just have Marshall and Jackson both report to Al as coordinators.
Remember Herrera1 was in here telling us Al was going to do something unprecedented!
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:34 am
# 408RAIDER Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:22 am
Dakota PFT is almost as bad as bleacher report..
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Hahahhha, you cant seriously mean that….
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:38 am
Jerry,
Im not sure if all about the enviroment. These coaches are all adults w/ families and the bottom line is money talks. Davis just doesnt pay his coaches enough to land the top guys.
Snyder has no problem landing the coaches that he wants and he has been just as bad as Davis in the past. Even though now Snyder has claimed to have turned over a new leaf.
Trust me if Davis is willing to write a big enough check he can have any coach he wants.
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:39 am
Dakota:
I never said Tom Cable is a “Great” coach.
He’s a good coach.
Wade Phillips isn’t a “Great” coach.
Norv Turner isn’t a “Great” coach.
Ken Wisenhunt isn’t a “Great” coach.
Marvin Lewis isn’t a “Great” coach.
John Fox isn’t a “Great” coach.
You get it?
Or do I need to spell it out some more for you?
I can give you about 15 more examples if you’d like.
You don’t need a GREAT coach to be successful in the NFL.
What do all 5 of the dudes on that list have in common?
They have good-to-great QB’s with good-to-great talent on their team.
Wow – what a concept.
All your little specific gripes are just that – specific little gripes.
Put a quality team together for Cable and the Raiders will be successful again.
And frankly, they’re not that far away from that.
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:40 am
My son happens to be the special teams coordinator for the Raiders and they played very well this year. They set an NFL record, an all-time record, of net punt (yards) and gross punt (yards) this year. So I follow the Raiders pretty closely because my son is coaching there and I coached there at one time.
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How are those comments from Fassell taking a shot at the Raiders?
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:40 am
Exactly Raidertay!
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:41 am
And John Fox is a great example of that.
One minute, his team’s in the superbowl because Jake D. is playing out of his mind.
The next minute, Jake D. can’t stop throwing INT’s.
So what – All of a sudden, Fox is an idiot?
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:43 am
This just in. Adam schefter reports the oaklands raiders have officialy signed NYG d-line coach to same position on raiders staff.
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:44 am
Smac,
Tom Cable did a bad job a a HC this year because he failed to recognize his wearing too many hats impacted the team. That is first and foremost. Is only NOW admitting that, yeah, I wore too many hats.
I agree with your basic premise that any idiot can coach a team with talent so we might as well keep the idiot we have and just get better talent around him.
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:46 am
i been reading…
and the sum of all that i am reading that there’s going to be a new sheriff in Raiderland…
Cable is moving on… probably to SoCal…
say hello to our new Head Coach Hue Jackson…
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:47 am
Was Wauffle the Dline coach for NY when they went to the SB?
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:48 am
Florida Pete Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:46 am
i been reading…
and the sum of all that i am reading that there’s going to be a new sheriff in Raiderland…
Cable is moving on… probably to SoCal…
say hello to our new Head Coach Hue Jackson…
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But wait… Silver n Smac all but guaranteed Cable will be back….cuz he is a “good” coach, lol
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:48 am
Honsetly though if al wanted to fix this and get back to winning ways is simple… bring gruden back and allow him to do his thing. Gruden will put butts back in the seats and W’s on the record sheet.But al holds grudges and has too much pride for his own good. And don’t give me that crap about gruden not willing to work here because he’s said it enough himself that he would love to and he sounds sincere.
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:48 am
I wonder if Cable impressed Kiffin with his playcalling enough to give him the OC job at SC?
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:49 am
Adam schefter reports the oaklands raiders have officialy signed NYG d-line coach to same position on raiders staff.
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promote Board to HC!
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:50 am
Yeah Silver n smac, cable is just as good of a coach as all those other guys…get the fuk outta here.
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:50 am
yup
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:50 am
I wonder if Cable impressed Kiffin with his playcalling enough to give him the OC job at SC?
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LOL. let’s hope so!
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:50 am
# jhill Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:47 am
Was Wauffle the Dline coach for NY when they went to the SB?
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yup
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:51 am
Gruden cost The Raiders a SB!
He conspired with Rich Gannon to rob The Raiders of a SB man! That’s why they are NOT WELCOMED!
- Al Davis
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:53 am
Let’s NOT hope so!
SC would be last in the PAC10
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:53 am
So Silver n smac you follow the same concept as Al Davis? Coaching means very little?
You just surround any coach with talent and they will win the SB right?
That has really worked well for us the past 25+ years…
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:53 am
But Jhill:
Consider this scenario:
JaMarcus Russell clearly was not ready to play this year.
Period.
And you know the owner absolutely, and rightfully so, wanted to develop the kid he just forked out 30million for.
So, you have to play him. And you have to play him with 2 rookie receivers.
And let’s not pretend Cable had a choice in that matter, because we all know that’s BS.
So, with that premise, Cable was screwed until the season was already lost. Only then did Al concede how hopeless the situation was. Only then did Cable have the authority to make some change.
So let’s be real.
This isn’t about calling 4 passing plays from the 2 yard line. Russell was the QB. Are you telling me that with brilliant play calling, that this team would have been drastically different with that reality?
I think not.
If he actually hand-picked the O-Line, then he did a crappy job of that.
Is that grounds to fire him?
Hell no.
I’ve said it before – head coaches have no business dipping their fingers into player-personnel decisions.
Stick to coaching the damned team and let the scouts/GM/owner (mostly one guy in our case LOL) do their job.
It’s the same reason why Shanahan/Holmgren/Gruden were mostly horrible at player evaluation.
Cable is a good football coach and he’s got the ear of these players. Around these parts, that’s a huge plus right now.
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:54 am
Now why would Wauffle leave a team like the NY Giants to come to a place like Oakland?
Hmmmmmmm
A lateral move at that?
Yeah, no one wants to come here.
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:55 am
Put Cable in Indy or NO and he would have just as much success as Payton, Dungy and Caldwell right Silver n Smac?
You can’t seriously believe that can you?
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:55 am
Dakota,
You’re a whining little biotch.
Tell me honestly that you would have a hard on for those coaches if they were coaching mediocre talent.
Tell me honestly that you had a hard on for Norv Turner when he was here.
Keep cryin’ dude.
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:56 am
Now why would Wauffle leave a team like the NY Giants to come to a place like Oakland?
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Jhill: he was fired along with Bill Sheridan
Perry Fewell is their new sherrif in town
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:57 am
I just sent a DM via Twitter to Jerry about Waufle,..so he should get new thread goin here soon,..hang on people.
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:58 am
Gruden cost The Raiders a SB!
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so did Lane Kiffin!
LOL
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:58 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:55 am
Dakota,
You’re a whining little biotch.
Tell me honestly that you would have a hard on for those coaches if they were coaching mediocre talent.
Tell me honestly that you had a hard on for Norv Turner when he was here.
Keep cryin’ dude.
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Nice come back….hey, isn’t that your third grade teacher calling you in from recess?
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:00 am
Yes jhill waufle was the d-line coach when the giants won the sb, he was also d-line coach this year… and Please don’t listen to pft their sources are not credible whatsoever.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:00 am
Yesterday -
Former Raiders defensive line coach Mike Waufle will interview for a position similiar to the one he held with the Giants, according to NFL.com.
Waufle was the defensive line coach in New York and part of their Super Bowl-winning team. He was fired after this past season. Waufle, indeed, is confirmed to be in Oakland tonight.
If he is interviewing for a similiar position as reported, then it looks like he is interviewing for the position held by Dwaine Board. His time spent in Oakland went so well, don’t be surprised if he gets consideration as defensive coordinator if Davis decides to make a change there as well. (John Marshall is under contract next season. But then, so is Board).
-David White (SF Gate)
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:00 am
# Dakota Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:53 am
So Silver n smac you follow the same concept as Al Davis? Coaching means very little?
You just surround any coach with talent and they will win the SB right?
That has really worked well for us the past 25+ years…
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Dude – wake up man.
I just don’t live in a world of extremes like you do.
(i.e. either someone sucks or someone rules)
A football team requires a whole lot of shiot to go right in order to succeed.
A great coach can make an average team very good.
A crappy coach (i.e. Barry Switzer) can take a team loaded with talent to the Superbowl.
And yeah – why the fiok would you truly believe Caldwell is so much more qualified to take a superbowl thatn Cable?
Had you ever heard of Caldwell in your entire life?
And hell yes – put Cable on the Saints or Vikings and they would succeed.
Are you telling me Brad Childress is a “great” coach?
Dude – enough of the hypocrisy.
Be consistent in your comments, not selective.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:01 am
Let me say that I was for Cable coming back this past offseason, and I am for simply adding an Asst HC/OC and keeping Cable now.
But the reasons we both agree, and everyone else agrees, that we need a new OC is what we are talking about here.
Cable was forced to play DHB, Murphy, and Russell, yes. Unfortunately Chaz and Miller got hurt at WR. I get all that. But because he was forced to go with that hand doesn’t mean you stick with the gameplan going that you drew up in the offseason.
Wasn’t his fault that Satele couldn’t grasp the offense or Gallery got hurt. I get that. But where are the adjustments to the gameplan? Why did we not see the jumbo package until the away game at Denver?
I could go on and on, but you know I don’t have to. The fact that you know he needs an OC says it all.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:03 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:58 am
Gruden cost The Raiders a SB!
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Naw al cost the raiders a superbowl, he traded it away as a matter of fact… that was our year all the way but al will be al…smh cant ever get out of his own way. If a guy does a good job and has your buisness boomin… Pay the man!!!
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:04 am
Jhill: he was fired along with Bill Sheridan
Perry Fewell is their new sherrif in town
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Ahhh … Thanks! Didn’t know that.
Couldn’t get a better offer than Oakland? His Dlines were pretty and hectic the past few years.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:05 am
Wasn’t his fault that Satele couldn’t grasp the offense or Gallery got hurt. I get that. But where are the adjustments to the gameplan? Why did we not see the jumbo package until the away game at Denver?
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I don’t know anybody who could have taken this roster with the key injuries we had an win a lot of games.):
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:07 am
Cable was forced to play DHB, Murphy, and Russell, yes.
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Cable said that when he approached Davis about making a change at QB, Davis said “you’re the coach. you make the call”
doesn’t sound like he was FORCED to play anybody. Was he also forced to play Fargas, Eugene, Warren, Carlisle & Green? was he forced to keep Nick Miller on the 53 man roster? was he forced to use garbage for kick returns?
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:07 am
Prediction: Cable stays. Hue Jackson in at OC. Cable turns over playcalling duties and focuses his time on the o-line and HC duties. JaMarcus, Gradkowski and Frye all stay. Raiders draft an o-lineman at No. 8. All but maybe one or two assistants stay. After all the speculation and gossip we actually take a very conservative approach to this season. However, Cable will have to produce a winning product or he’s gone.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:08 am
Jhill:
I totally agree with your premise.
In reality, this team should have been run exactly the way the Jets were this year.
Do what you do well – run the ball – and play it safe until your QB develops.
But, that’s what Kiffin was doing last year, and it clearly pissed Al off because he wanted Russell to simply wing it and learn on the job.
So, if you’re the head coach now, are you simply supposed to blow him off? No.
You try and make it work. It clearly didn’t work.
I guess you could say Cable should have had more stones and told Al to fiok off after week #4.
That’s real easy for a schmuck like me to sit here and say. I’m not the one who has one of only 32 jobs on the planet.
And I agree with you – he was doing too much last year.
But, truthfully, the few times when he had good play from his QB, I thought his play-calling was fine.
But whatever – if he’s stripped of that duty, I’m not losing any sleep. And frankly, we should have a true O-Line coach as well.
The head coach needs to do one thing.
Manage the team.
That’s all.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:08 am
DHB ran a reverse ONE TIME all year. I think it was a home game about 4 or 5 games in.
It worked for a big gain.
We never saw it again.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:09 am
if Cable has the authority to bench Russell, he has the authority to bench Heyward-Bey …
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:10 am
Chris:
If the Raiders do what you just described and still fail next season, then hell yes – Cable will be gone.
And rightfully so.
But, as I keep saying, put the right QB on the field on opening day.
Of all the other matters of importance, this one decision will alter their season more than any other.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:10 am
His 20 yard run was in Houston and than they tried it at home a few weeks later and he got one yard I think.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:11 am
But, that’s what Kiffin was doing last year, and it clearly pissed Al off because he wanted Russell to simply wing it and learn on the job.
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Kiffin went overboard with it though, lol!
The Buffalo game was hilarious with all those running plays. The really funny part is if fuggin Morrison makes the tackle on Lynch, we win that game.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:11 am
Chris in NY ,
glad you’re here bro. please give us the inside scoop from NY on why Mike Waufle was fired by the G-Men…
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:12 am
I do believe that Al has been and may still be undecided on whether or not to keep Cable, but I think he ultimately does keep him.
I also think it’s likely Al reached out to Fassel and Trestman to ask if they’d be interested in the OC position and both declined. Trestman is supposedly the genius coach of the CFL and Fassel has said more than once his biggest career regret was taking the OC job with the Ravens and he wouldn’t want to come back for a non-HC position again.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:12 am
Fire Cable!
Cut JaLoser!
That being said, with all the prospective hirings, Cable will end up with all the authority Jim Zorn had with the Skins.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:13 am
Buffalo in 2008 was another Rob Ryan prevent special!!
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:14 am
Cable took the training wheels off of Russell as soon as he became interim HC.
Got Tollner & Hackett to show him the ropes.
Spent all offseason, even preseason on forcing a pass first mentality because it needed so much improvement.
result: running game sank and the passing game was still in the tank with JR at QB.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:14 am
But Jhill:
As much as part of me always thought Kiffin was a little weasel, I respected that part of his coaching.
Russell was NOT ready and he new it. And that ultra-conservative approach (exactly what the Jets have done the 2nd half of this season) was the right approach.
This is the one aspect of last season in which I would give Kiffin credit for. And Al should have realized it was the right approach as well.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:14 am
man, i just don’t see a very big upside keeping Cable…
too many negatives…
not saying he’s a bad coach…
just saying he’s not a very good head coach…
for me, HC are managers… they should be focused on managing their staff…
Cable tried to be the staff…
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:15 am
So, if you’re the head coach now, are you simply supposed to blow him off? No.
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And I think Cable went too far the other way trying to give Al what he thought he wanted.
You know, I thought the way Cable started off game 1 was not bad at all. A lot of 2 TE sets. Mixed Bush and McFadden well. Didn’t try and pass too much. Should’ve won that game man!
I know Gallery got hurt in game 2 and it was over for our Oline after that.
I hear you, I hear you.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:15 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:14 am
Cable took the training wheels off of Russell as soon as he became interim HC.
Got Tollner & Hackett to show him the ropes.
Spent all offseason, even preseason on forcing a pass first mentality because it needed so much improvement.
result: running game sank and the passing game was still in the tank with JR at QB.
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So this is Cable’s fault?
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:15 am
Rockstar,
Probably because the Giants were supposed to be one of the top 2 or 3 defenses in the league this year — largely because of their loaded d-line (Tuck, Umenyiora, Kiwanuka, etc.) and ability to rush the passer with 4 — and they absolutely stunk in games they weren’t going against JaMarcus Russell. The d-line was extremely underwhelming and the defense as a whole was terrible. The d-coordinator was axed immediately but I guess they felt the need to clean house beyond that as well.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:17 am
vegas raider Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:13 am
Buffalo in 2008 was another Rob Ryan prevent special!!
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It was the beginning of my we need another MLB campaign!
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:18 am
Cable doesn’t trust anybody but himself. sort of like Davis that way
Knapp had the play calling for what? 2 games in 2008? Cable took it away. then he was wearing 3 hats (HC, OC & OL coach)
decided to keep 2 of those hats this year and the hand-picked OL coach he wanted from Cal was pushed to the side when the hand picked scrubs Cable wanted there didn’t perform. 3 hats again.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:19 am
vegas raider Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:13 am
Buffalo in 2008 was another Rob Ryan prevent special!!
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So many Rob Ryan prevent specials to choose from. How many games did we lose in 2007 (Kiffin’s first year) when we had a lead in the 4th quarter only to give it away immediately. Don’t forget that Browns game we won where Tommy Kelly blocked the 40-yard FG as time expired. Rob should’ve cost us that one as well. And don’t forget this year’s game against the Browns when Ryan’s defense let us march into the red zone all 4th quarter only we shot ourselves in the foot with turnovers, poor play calling, etc. to let him off the hook.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:21 am
Knapp had the play calling for what? 2 games in 2008? Cable took it away. then he was wearing 3 hats (HC, OC & OL coach)
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I remember a PC from Al talking about how the ball was going up in the air now because he demanded that Knapp call plays instead of Kiffin.
LOL!
You’re right, Cable punked Knapp. I guess he didn’t want Knapp getting a shot a credit for Russell and then Al giving him the shot at 1 of 32.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:22 am
Look, if the Raiders had played the Jets this year in the same fashion they played the Bills last year, I say the final score may have been more like Jets 20, Raiders 10.
The defense is on the field less. The QB has way less chance to make stupid decisions, etc., etc.
Many games could have been managed the same way and we would have had more success. Don’t believe for a minute that Cable didn’t know that. But again – you just paid a kid $30 million freakin dollars. You had to see it through before you pull the plug.
My point is, he was trying to let this kid get it done.
The kid never did get it done. He saw it. The owner finally saw it.
Basically, the result of last season was not much more than a complete talent evaluation of the youngsters on this team.
The fans got screwed because we were subjected to some horrible football.
But I think some good will prove to come out of that audition. Guys like DHB, Murphy & even Russell will have thicker skins.
Russell was humbled, disgraced & had his tail shoved between his legs. Those are all good things if we want to move forward in a positive way.
Now Russell either comes back knowing he has to EARN his job, or he’ll be riding the bench.
Those are all positive things that came out of last season for me.
I simply want Cable to have a fair shot at winning.
And you only get that with decent-to-great QB play.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:23 am
I actually think we’re really set up to run a 3-4 right now. Seymour and Kelly are best suited to be 3-4 DEs. Morrison would be OK as an ILB in a 3-4. Scott and Howard could be great as 3-4 OLBs. We just need a NT and a thumper at the other ILB position. Warren has the size to play NT but I don’t think that’s how he plays the position.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:24 am
I think it’s hilarious that Schefter can get news on the Raiders before any of the local reporters do. That’s just really starnge man. You would think some of these local reporters had a bit more game.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:24 am
So this is Cable’s fault?
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If you know your QB is trash you don’t call more passing plays than running plays and you certainly don’t wait until you’re 2-7 and basically out of the playoff hunt to approach the boss and ask if you can have somebody else start at QB. you protect your QB with your play calling. you get him some studs on the OL and limit his chances of making a mistake. When you look at who we have at RB vs who we have at QB & WR it seems pretty clear what our gameplan should be.
I just don’t see how Cable & Russell can both hold prominent roles with this club going forward. one will either have to take a backseat or be out all together. too much failure to overcome. you can’t hide one or the other sometimes, but never BOTH
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:26 am
Wauffle and Marshall are not known for the 3-4.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:28 am
# jhill Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:24 am
I think it’s hilarious that Schefter can get news on the Raiders before any of the local reporters do. That’s just really starnge man. You would think some of these local reporters had a bit more game.
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LOL
True!
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:28 am
Chris in NY ,
so do you feel that Waufle is an upgrade over Board?
Board wasn’t given much to work with. Kelly/Warren at DT? thats cruel
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:29 am
Wow..Chris you just got the formula for a 3-4 “D”!!
Chris for New Defensive Coordinator position!!
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:29 am
Wonder if Al lets Hue Jackson trade for Ocho Cinco?
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:30 am
Schefter for IBA!
(just kidding Jerry, calm down)
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:30 am
Chris:
Yup.
Give me one FAT, REALLY FAT nose tackle and one rugged ML and this is an entirely new defense.
The key is FAT.
Again. . .FAT.
Tommy Kelly is a physical beast.
But he’s neither FAT enough, nor is he short enough.
Those are the keys to a successful NT.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:31 am
In the count of 3…I mean 4!
1-2-……3-4!!
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:32 am
Legally, the club is a limited partnership with nine partners — Davis and the heirs of the original eight team partners. Since 1972, however Davis has exercised near-complete control as president of the team’s general partner, A.D. Football, Inc. Although exact ownership stakes are not known, it has been reported that Davis currently owns 47% of the team shares.[57]
Ed McGah, the last of the original eight general partners of the Raiders, died in September 1983. Upon his death, his interest was devised to a family trust, of which his son, E.J. McGah, was the trustee. The younger McGah was himself a part owner of the team, as a limited partner, and died in 2002. Several members of the McGah family filed suit against Davis in October 2003, alleging mismanagement of the team by Davis. The lawsuit sought monetary damages and to remove Davis and A. D. Football, Inc. as the team’s managing general partner. Among their specific complaints, the McGahs alleged that Davis failed to provide them with detailed financial information previously provided to Ed and E.J. McGah. The Raiders countered that—under the terms of the partnership agreement as amended in 1972—upon the death of the elder McGah in 1983, his general partner interest converted to that of a limited partner. The team continued to provide the financial information to the younger McGah as a courtesy, though it was under no obligation to do so.[58]
The majority of the lawsuit was dismissed in April 2004, when an Alameda County Superior Court judge ruled that the case lacked merit since none of the other partners took part in the lawsuit.[59] In October 2005, the lawsuit was settled out of court. The terms of the settlement are confidential, but it was reported that under its terms Davis purchased the McGah family’s interest in the Raiders (approximately 31 percent), and which gave him for the first time owns a majority interest for a limited time, speculated to be approximately 67 percent of the team. As a result of the settlement, confidential details concerning Al Davis and the ownership of the Raiders were not released to the public.[60] His ownership share went down to 47% when he sold 20% of the team to Wall Street investors [57]
Recently, Davis has been attempting to sell the 31 percent ownership stake in the team he obtained from the McGah family. He has been unsuccessful in this effort, reportedly because the sale would not give the purchaser any control of the Raiders, even in the event of Davis’s death. Full control of the team will be assumed by Davis’s wife, Carol, upon his death.[61]
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:33 am
That’s right folks. If Big Al dies, Carol Davis takes over! Would she do a better job?
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:33 am
Not that any of you people care, (I usually dont either),..but they just did a segment on KNBR about John Hererra…as it turns out, he lost his wife about almost 2 years ago, to cancer,..she was 44,…John was left with 4 kids, all school aged,…I had heard from David White he had some issues and thats why he never messed with him too hard,…didnt know it was to that extent,…you all can continue to berate him if thats what does it for you,…I wont,..the Raiders just arent that important to me.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:34 am
# jhill Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:17 am
vegas raider Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:13 am
Buffalo in 2008 was another Rob Ryan prevent special!!
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It was the beginning of my we need another MLB campaign!
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which ive had running before the 2008 season, and I got tons of heat for it…
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:35 am
and kiffin is was the best coach we have had in this decade..
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:36 am
Bite your tongue La Milicia. Gruden hands down.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:36 am
Silver n smac,
I think there is a grain of truth to what you are saying. I respect that. I think you are right, a mediocre HC can take a talented team far.
We will just have to agree to disagree as to Tom Cable specifically.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:37 am
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:14 am
But Jhill:
As much as part of me always thought Kiffin was a little weasel, I respected that part of his coaching.
Russell was NOT ready and he new it. And that ultra-conservative approach (exactly what the Jets have done the 2nd half of this season) was the right approach.
This is the one aspect of last season in which I would give Kiffin credit for. And Al should have realized it was the right approach as well.
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Exactly what I’ve been saying. And, if you remember, there were some fans from this very blog that were extremely critical of Kiffin for that approach. Those fans now see the result of the aggressive approach. You look at Sanchez, Ben in Pittsburgh, these guys were groomed slowly and the offense wasn’t thrown on their shoulders.
I’ve been hard on Russell and I feel he’s deserved it for his poor work ethic and attitude. He needs to grow up. But the one thing he may deserve a little slack in is how he was thrown to the fire this year. Handled poorly and he wasn’t ready.
Now who’s fault is that? It’s either Cable or Davis. I tend to lean toward Davis due to some of the things he said in his projector meeting. Seemed to imply that he wanted Russell slinging it. But then again, Cable could have lobbied to Davis. But he didn’t have enough of a backbone to convince Davis that Russell wasn’t ready. That or Cable truly thought Russell could handle it.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:37 am
Wonder if Al lets Hue Jackson trade for Ocho Cinco?
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is that sarcasm? he took a swing at Jackson. one reason Jackson bolted for ATL i think …
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:40 am
Chris in NY Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:19 am
So many Rob Ryan prevent specials to choose from. How many games did we lose in 2007 (Kiffin’s first year) when we had a lead in the 4th quarter only to give it away immediately. Don’t forget that Browns game we won where Tommy Kelly blocked the 40-yard FG as time expired. Rob should’ve cost us that one as well.
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That was the game, where Rob Ryan was at his most brilliant moment, dropping 11 guys into coverage with about 20 seconds to go in the game, and giving up an easy 8 yard catch and letting the WR go out of bounds as everybody looked lost on the field.
Classic!!
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:41 am
Dakota:
First off, when you and I talk shiot, it’s all in the spirit of good ol’ fashioned smack talk (the same way I would with my buddies).
I hope you realize that. It’s all in good fun.
Hell, life’s too serious as it is, to take talk about our favorite football team TOO seriously.
Even Richocrap – I have nothing against the guy. I just love talkin crap to him in the spirit of sports.
And another thing:
If Cable stays this year, gets good QB play, and the team still sucks. . . . . .
Then I will personally go halves with you in paying for a U-Haul to throw him in and take him to the dump!
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:44 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:41 am
Dakota:
First off, when you and I talk shiot, it’s all in the spirit of good ol’ fashioned smack talk (the same way I would with my buddies).
I hope you realize that. It’s all in good fun.
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No worries…getting edgy in this site is what makes this place fun and I have certainly instigated my fair share of rough conversations in here, lol. I have thick skin, so smac away.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:44 am
I think the only people Jackson might try to lure from ATL on offense would be Redman, Norwood or Jenkins.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:46 am
think Hue Jackson might want Troy Smith?
WR Mark Clayton is a FA too, isn’t he?
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:46 am
Or Vick!!
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:46 am
you know how Al loves those 1st rounders that never realized their potential elsewhere!
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:47 am
Banana:
Well said.
I think, also, that there comes a point when you simply have to show the ability to throw the ball with some consistency to win in the NFL, long term.
Cable and Al can both be blamed for Russell’s poor play to an extent.
And rightfully so.
But, at some point (even Sanchez as an example), when your team needs you to hit an open receiver – damn! You have to hit that open receiver!!!
So again – let’s hope some good will come out of Russell’s mental beat-down.
As outsiders, it’s so easy to forget these are real human beings.
Russell may not show it very gracefully, but, he hurt inside – don’t make any mistake about it.
Vegas trip or no Vegas trip.
The kid was humbled to the core.
That doesn’t mean he’ll suddenly wake up now.
I hope he does.
If he doesn’t, life will move on and so will the Raiders eventually.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:47 am
# MillerRaider Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:36 am
Bite your tongue La Milicia. Gruden hands down.
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okay for the entire decade minus a year, Kiffin has been the best coach we had…
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:47 am
Jackson never had Vick, ray. Vick was locked up and banned from the NFL before Hue Jackson ever had a chance to take his game to the next level …
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:48 am
I actually love the idea of bringing in Troy Smith in here to compete for a starting job.
I think he’s a winner, he’s quick, and has some moxy.
I would have no problem with Grad, Smith & Russell on the roster next season.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:50 am
SNS,
Ted Washington and Sam Adams were 6′4+ , and they did very well playing NTs.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:50 am
My bad!!
Just thought I’d throw in my two cents!
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:50 am
Ravens arent going to let Troy smith go, not for less than a 2nd rounder…
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:51 am
Agreed.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:51 am
Smack
Agreed Smith has a lot of moxy
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:51 am
O,
Ted Washington & Warren Sapp next to eachother was a huge disappointment
thanks Rob Ryan!
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:51 am
Lets just hope that Al more than anything else this up coming season gets the team tougher in the middle of the defensive line and linebacker. I think we are good at safety.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:51 am
Raider O,
Absolutely true – but they were both big’ol’ fat guys proportionally.
That’s really what I’m saying.
I’d basically like a nose tackle so large that he takes up the space of 2 people.
The guys you mentioned were just that!
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:52 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:51 am
O,
Ted Washington & Warren Sapp next to eachother was a huge disappointment
thanks Rob Ryan!
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Couldn’t agree more.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:52 am
Adams & Parrella were the DT’s during our Super Bowl season.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:53 am
Well, considering how long these meetings have gone on with Hue Jackson, we either have a new coordinator or head coach. So, what’ll it be?
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:53 am
For as horrible as Sapp played the last 4 or 5 years of his career her sure does talk a lot of crap.
Big mouth and fat ass is all he is.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:54 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:51 am
O,
Ted Washington & Warren Sapp next to eachother was a huge disappointment
thanks Rob Ryan!
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I laways said we had been in tripple SBs if we had traded for Marcus Stroud instead of sapp…
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:54 am
Anyone else tired of Siragusa on the Fox broadcasts?
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:55 am
NT*
Good morning Nation.
RR,
That lady is a reminder of how life can be, so we can apreciate what we have. I’ll pray for her.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:56 am
# The Big Banana Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:54 am
Anyone else tired of Siragusa on the Fox broadcasts?
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ever sin ce he held a mike for the fist time, reminds me of how he ruined Gannons arm…
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:56 am
I don’t think they are having meetings they are all waiting for Al to come back to consciousness after missing his pills last week and pretending that there is really something else happening as a distraction.
I wonder who hold his dick while he pees or better yet a picture of John Herrera wiping al’s backside after a diaper change would be funny to read about.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:56 am
Adams was a HOG.
And Parrella was absolutely the strongest human being in the NFL. That made up for his lack of size.
What do you guys really think of Chris Johnson?
I tend to think he’s an excellent corner (better than most in the league).
But, he’s got 2 things working against him:
1. He’s playing opposite the dude nobody throws to.
2. He plays man-to-man – that’s something that most corners in the league can’t even do.
With that being said, can we do better there?
I would think that if we fix the NT & ML problem we have, that our secondary will be plenty legit enough to win.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:58 am
thanks O.
found out she just lost her brother today.
mom & brother within 24 hours …
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:58 am
The Big Banana Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:54 am
Anyone else tired of Siragusa on the Fox broadcasts?
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even kiffie’s mug doesn’t piss me off as much as that big fat tub of lard…
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:58 am
LMN I was at that game when Fat Saragusa ruined our great season by falling extra hard on Gannon’s shoulder and ended up being the reason they beat us in the AFC championship game.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:59 am
# Lucifer-666 Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:53 am
For as horrible as Sapp played the last 4 or 5 years of his career her sure does talk a lot of crap.
Big mouth and fat ass is all he is.
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Awe man – I can’t stand that freakin’ barrel of grits.
All he does is diss the Raiders for the pure joy of it.
What a freakin’ coward. Talked up the “greatness of the Raiders” while he was here, only to rip us every chance he gets.
If I was Rod Woodson, I would privately tell him to shut his trap. Speaking of Woodson – classy, classy man.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:59 am
SnS..
LOL, Chris johnson is pathetic, he couldnt get a backup job with any of the playoff teams, he might be okay to be a nickel or dime
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:59 am
SNS,
T Cody is that guy, but 8th is too high for him, and I don’t think he falls to us in the 2nd.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:00 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:58 am
thanks O.
found out she just lost her brother today.
mom & brother within 24 hours …
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say what now?
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:00 am
If the meetings with Jackson really have gone on for 3+ days, that can only mean either 1) Jackson is being interviewed for the HC position, or 2) brining in Jackson to interview for the OC spot was Cable’s idea and Al is giving Cable time, along with Jackson, to try and convince him that a combination of Cable and Jackson can get the job dones, or 3) Al is just fuking with us all.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:00 am
# Lucifer-666 Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:58 am
LMN I was at that game when Fat Saragusa ruined our great season by falling extra hard on Gannon’s shoulder and ended up being the reason they beat us in the AFC championship game.
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Lucifer –
I was there too.
That bastard.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:00 am
[...] McDonald (Oakland Tribune blog ) recalls past coaching searches [...]
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:01 am
Rex Ryan is using the same formula the Ravens used to in 2000. I don’t think the NFL will allow Peyton to get the Gannon treatment.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:02 am
RR,
And she is at work?!
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:02 am
say what now?
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LMN, see post #130
Raider O just got here. he’s catching up on previous posts …
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:03 am
If this is a re-post I’m sorry…
Ravens’ Jackson interviewing for head job in Oakland
By Aaron Wilson, Times Staff Writer Friday, January 22, 2010
OWINGS MILLS — Baltimore Ravens quarterbacks coach Hue Jackson hasn’t only been interviewed for the Oakland Raiders’ offensive coordinator position over the past few days.
Jackson is also meeting with the Raiders regarding the head-coaching position currently held by Tom Cable.
Jackson remained at the Raiders’ team headquarters Thursday night as his interview with team officials continued.
A former offensive coordinator with the Atlanta Falcons and the Washington Redskins, Jackson has been instrumental in the development of quarterback Joe Flacco. Jackson could either wind up as a potential replacement for Cable or operate as his offensive coordinator.
Jackson, 45, has previously worked on the West Coast with previous stints at USC, Cal-Berkeley and Cal-State Fullerton. He hasn’t been a head coach previously.
Raiders owner Al Davis is hoping to revive the career of quarterback bust JaMarcus Russell. Cable benched Russell this past season, and the team finished 5-11 overall.
The Raiders have yet to say anything publicly regarding their coaching situation other than denying interviews have taken place with Jim Fassel and Marc Trestman.
Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh, the brother of Ravens coach John Harbaugh, had been rumored to have spoken with the Raiders regarding Cable’s job. However, his agent, Jack Bechta, has denied that speculation.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:04 am
O,
she was all day yesterday and she came in for a little bit today, but now she’s gotta head to TN (where her brother lived). left a few minutes ago
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:04 am
Lard Azz!!!
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/tonysiragusa1.jpg
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:05 am
I wish Tony Siragusa would come back and join the Saints DL. do a belly flop on Favre
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:07 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:02 am
say what now?
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LMN, see post #130
Raider O just got here. he’s catching up on previous posts …
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woaw tough shyte, how old is she? hope she has a husband that can help her if not, double woaw..
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:07 am
you know your QB is trash you don’t call more passing plays than running plays and you certainly don’t wait until you’re 2-7 and basically out of the playoff hunt to approach the boss and ask if you can have somebody else start at QB. you protect your QB with your play calling.
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Al forced cable to start jamarcus as he did with kiffen. The reason the players respect tom so much is because he stood up to al and sat jamarcus anyway knowing jamarcus is als guy. And what point does it make to keep running when its not working??? Defenses stacked the box because they knew jamarcus couldn’t handle pressure and to also stop the run… Its not cable. With grads and frye starting we looked like a totally different team thats how bad jamarcus is. if you’re going to blame somebody blame the person who deserves it which is al for not allowing ccable to bench jamarcus alot sooner.(;
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:08 am
# Dakota Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:00 am
If the meetings with Jackson really have gone on for 3+ days, that can only mean either 1) Jackson is being interviewed for the HC position, or 2) brining in Jackson to interview for the OC spot was Cable’s idea and Al is giving Cable time, along with Jackson, to try and convince him that a combination of Cable and Jackson can get the job dones, or 3) Al is just fuking with us all.
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So in the scenario with Jackson as OC, is Hackett retained as QB coach?
I hope he is.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:10 am
Sam Adams was only 6′ 3″, Raider O.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:10 am
I rather have Percy harvin with his migraines, which means he roughly only can play every second game… THAN a healthy DHB…
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:10 am
What games did we look like a totally different team?
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:10 am
if you were Hackett… would you want to deal with a resume crushing loser like JaCarcass Russell for another year ???
i didn’t think so…
but…
if Hackett were to turn around JaRUSSasaurus…
well… i think he should be a 1st ballot hall of famer…
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:11 am
RR,
Wow. I can’t do that.
What About your boy Huff? Can he play CB, and should we try him there?I like the idea of that since he played CB/S at Texas, but I don’t want to keep playing at him at diff positions after he played well at FS.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:12 am
# Lucifer-666 Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:53 am
For as horrible as Sapp played the last 4 or 5 years of his career her sure does talk a lot of crap.
Big mouth and fat ass is all he is.
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Actually, in 2006 Sapp had 10 sacks. This was the most by a DT in the NFL that year. He got no mention for the Pro Bowl because the Raiders record was so bad.
The 10 sacks was the most since 2000 when he got 16.5 in Tampa and was the 4th best total of his career.
2002 when Tampa won the Trophy, he had 40 tackles and 7.5 sacks.
In 2006 he had 32 tackles and 10 sacks.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:12 am
Huff is due to make 5.75M next year…
cut him… sign him back for reasonable money…
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:13 am
# Lucifer-666 Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:53 am
For as horrible as Sapp played the last 4 or 5 years of his career her sure does talk a lot of crap.
Big mouth and fat ass is all he is.
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Raiders are his meal ticket. He used to be pretty funny to listen to. I remember how the local media members were excited when he traded for him because of all the sound bites he’d provide. He seemed to lose that when he came over. Losing a couple of steps and playing on a bad team didn’t help, I’m sure.
I think it just sells, at this point, to talk about the Raiders. He has no other material.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:13 am
What’s mest up is that the Vikes don’t know how much longer they’ll have Percy for!
I’m sure it will all be worth the 1st RD pick they used on him if they win a Super Bowl!
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:14 am
Raider75 Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:12 am
Actually, in 2006 Sapp had 10 sacks. This was the most by a DT in the NFL that year. He got no mention for the Pro Bowl because the Raiders record was so bad.
The 10 sacks was the most since 2000 when he got 16.5 in Tampa and was the 4th best total of his career.
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i think it’s easy to get sacks when the whole o-line is laughing…
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:14 am
Stroud still is twice the DT that people think Sapp were
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:15 am
jhill Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:10 am
What games did we look like a totally different team?
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Come on you know the answer. We had 4 80 yard TD drives this year, 2 came in the Bengals game.
We all know the Pittsburgh game, and the Redskins game was the second most points we scored in the first half this year (13 in Denver, 10 at home against SD and Wash).
Not a big improvement, but we went from the world’s shytest offense, to one that was still shyty at times, but should more life than any other time in the last few years.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:15 am
O,
Huff should be used like Woodson is being used in GB. S and CB. Nnamdi should simply shadow the teams best WR.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:15 am
Bo,
OK! 6′3+
You just worry about Southwick, and help him compete for QB next season.
Dont give up on him! lol
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:15 am
# Florida Pete Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:12 am
Huff is due to make 5.75M next year…
cut him… sign him back for reasonable money…
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if se cut him he’ll end up a Raven… so just re-negotiate his deal =)
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:17 am
You cut Huff…and there’s no guarantee he’ll sign with us!!
In the right mind who would!
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:17 am
Not a big improvement, but we went from the world’s shytest offense, to one that was still shyty at times,
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LMFAO!
So you agree we didn’t make much of an improvement, and were still shyty.
My point exactly!
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:17 am
how old is she? hope she has a husband that can help her if not, double woaw..
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I think she’s probably around 50. her husband is a long haul truck driver. always gone. talks to her on the phone a lot though …
I can’t even imagine what she’s going through. I lost my mom in June, but not my brother too and I wasn’t responsible for doing EVERYTHING like she is
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:20 am
LMN,
Stroud is a Beast, but doesn’t get a lot of hype because he plays for small market teams like bills & jags.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:21 am
You just worry about Southwick, and help him compete for QB next season.
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No worries! The South(wick) will rise again!!!
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:21 am
FOUR OHHH EIGHT!!!11
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:21 am
Come on you know the answer. We had 4 80 yard TD drives this year, 2 came in the Bengals game.
We all know the Pittsburgh game, and the Redskins game was the second most points we scored in the first half this year (13 in Denver, 10 at home against SD and Wash).
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Offensively, the Bengals game was horrendous. Mostly becasue we spent all game trying to prove it was Russell not DHB and forced the ball to him. There was no running game at all, and Grads had 100 yds pasing at the 58 minute mark.
Pittsburgh game? We had 6 pts going into the 4th qtr! It was some really magical stuff happening for Grads in that 4th qtr, lol. U know what I’m talking about, so let’s just leave it at that.
Washington game? We had 2 big plays to McFadden against Landry. Once Washington adjusted a corner to McFadden, the game was over.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:22 am
RR,
I agree!
Just like he played at Texas! That will allow MM to play more too.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:22 am
# r8eray Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:04 am
Lard Azz!!!
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/tonysiragusa1.jpg
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Looks like his microphone is about to be swallowed by the side of his head.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:22 am
cutting Huff after his most impressive season would be a huge mistake. especially since MM is still unproven at this point
I don’t care if he’s making $8 million. It would send the wrong message to this team if players that produce are not only leaving in FA (not retained) but actually getting cut!
players want to win and they have to beleive that this team is actually TRYING to turn around the sinking ship. players like a challenge, but nobody with pride will come here KNOWING that we don’t care about winning or don’t expect to win many games with or without them
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:24 am
Southwick is on a Mission from God!!
He has superior talents!
He played for so many colleges to showcase his talents!!
Southwick is the future!
I remamber!
lol
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:26 am
Raider O: at least Southwick is still with the Raiders
where is MLB Frantz Joseph?
LOL. j/k man!
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:27 am
Like the re hiring of Mike Waufle as D-Line coach.
He is a heckuva football coach and coached some solid D-Lines in here in Oakland when of course guess who was coach? Jon Gruden of course and coached good D-Lines with the G-Men.
Wasn’t his fault the new D-Coordinator in NY who replaced Spagnuolo sucked.
Interesting how old man Al can re hire a former coach like Waufle but not a former great Raiders head coach like Gruden who turned the franchise and team around huh?
Weird old man Al.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:28 am
Cutting Huff now after he has finally got his NFL game down…would be stupid.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:29 am
Looks like our new D-line coach’s easygoing approach will fit right in here, but clashed with Coughlin…
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2010/01/ny_giants_sign_tight_end_carso.html
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:30 am
In continuing to unearth reasons for Waufle’s departure from the Giants (in addition to his annual gripes about a lack of money and respect from the team), I’ve picked up on the sound of rumblings the Giants believed he simply got too close to his players and wasn’t hard enough on them. This explains why the players loved him, of course, but also why he’d be nudged out the door while the rest of the staff has remained intact.
Think about it: in the preseason Umenyiora left a team meeting after being criticized by defensive coordinator Bill Sheridan for a game in which he graded out well. Who provided those grades? Waufle.
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good find Banana!
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:31 am
Weird old man Al. Well put I still think Herrera changes his diapers…
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:31 am
Jhill,
The point being is we never had those moments, even the far and far between ones, in a couple years.
You mock the 10 points at the half against Washington, but where would this team be if we scored 20 points a game?
And as far as Pitt game goes, the game is 4 quarters. Not trying to sound like a smart-azz, but if this team had an offense that can get rolling like that one quarter every game, we would be set!!!
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:32 am
# jhill Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:24 am
I think it’s hilarious that Schefter can get news on the Raiders before any of the local reporters do. That’s just really starnge man. You would think some of these local reporters had a bit more game.
^^^^^^^^^
Agreed….
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:32 am
is Jerry gonna let this blog hit 500 posts before relaying the BREAKING NEWS about Mike Waufle being officially signed by Oakland?
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:33 am
Nice article banana Thanks
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:34 am
Jerry might sit on the Waufle story until the Raiders list Waufle on their web-site.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:35 am
LOL, Waufle’s agent is Trace Armstrong. The same Trace Armstrong who robbed Al of millions only to hurt his poor self.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:36 am
I like the re hiring of Mike Waufle as D-Line coach.
He is a heckuva football coach and coached some solid D-Lines here in Oakland when of course guess who was coach? Jon Gruden of course and Waufle also coached good D-Lines with the G-Men.
Wasn’t his fault the new D-Coordinator in NY who replaced Spagnuolo sucked.
Interesting how old man Al can re hire a former coach like Waufle but not a former great Raiders head coach like Gruden who turned the franchise and team around huh?
Freakin weird old man Al…
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:36 am
Jerry might sit on the Waufle story until the Raiders list Waufle on their web-site.
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he’s going to wait until after the draft?
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:37 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:59 am
SnS..
LOL, Chris johnson is pathetic, he couldnt get a backup job with any of the playoff teams, he might be okay to be a nickel or dime
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You’re crazy. Chris Johnson is one of the better No. 2 CBs in the league.
- 13th in the NFL in passes defensed with 21 (Huff in his breakout season was 2nd on the team with 17).
- 68 tackles was 2nd among the Raiders secondary (behind Branch).
- 3 INTs tied for team lead (with Huff).
- Covers the other team’s star WRs as much or more than Nnamdi since they each just stick to their own sides of the field.
- Speaking of coverage, what do Vincent Jackson, Dwayne Bowe (twice), Brandon Marshall (twice), Andre Johnson, Steve Smith (NYG), DeSean Jackson, Braylon Edwards, Chad Ochocino, Hines Ward, Santana Moss and Derrick Mason have in common? They were all held under 100 yards receiving by CJ and the Raiders this season. As a matter of fact, it wasn’t until Week 8 in the 2nd SD game that a WR went over 100 yards on us when Jackson had 103. Santonio Holmes and Miles Austin were the only other two to go over 100 yards receiving in a game against us.
Of the remaining playoff teams, outside of Revis and Antoine Winfield, there may be a corner or two in CJ’s class, but none are better.
Yet you insist that CJ is a major liability for this team?
Get a clue dude.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:37 am
Tom Cable Head Coach-Fire
Dwaine Board Defensive Line-Gone
Willie Brown Defensive Backs Assistant, Squad Development-Gone
John Fassel Special Teams Coordinator-Fire
Paul Hackett Quarterbacks-Keep
Mike Haluchak Linebackers-Keep
Adam Henry Tight Ends-Keep
Sanjay Lal Wide Receivers-Execute, I mean fire
John Marshall Defensive Coordinator-keep for now
Jim Michalczik Offensive Line-fire
Chris Morgan Assistant Offensive Line-who cares
Brad Roll Strength and Conditioning-Fire
Kelly Skipper Running Backs-Fire
Ted Tollner Passing Game Coordinator-Fire
Lionel Washington Defensive Backs-Keep
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:37 am
Is the Waufle signing confirmed? Where?
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:38 am
RR,
LMAO
Frantz Joseph will play in the NFL!
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:39 am
Waufle’s agent is Trace Armstrong. The same Trace Armstrong who robbed Al of millions only to hurt his poor self.
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Trace Armstrong was pretty solid for 2 or 3 years here (when healthy)
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:39 am
I wish Waufle could have been here during the Shell-Walsh era.
The Waufle-Ben ‘n’ Breakfast jokes would have been a’plenty
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:41 am
Chris,
Your WR statistic isn’t all that surprising since WRs don’t have to get 100 yards against us because our run D is horrible. Remember back in 2006 when our secondary was ranked so high because teams never threw against us, and then in 2007 we were all shocked at how bad our pass coverage was once Kiffin had us competing in games through the 4th quarter…
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:41 am
new englandraider here
here to take my lumps in regards to pau gasol. yesterday, said he wasnt soft. well, last night dude was softer than a wet jelly donut. sure shaq out weighs him by almost 100lbs. (list weight) , but jj hickson. lakers showed a lot of toughness last season. seem to have regressed this year. not as hungry. but remember after the 2000 championship, we didn’t play all that hard in following regular seasons. sorry raider fans, for talking lakers ball, but i will admit to being wrong. just like rockstar in his comparisons of dg/mm
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:41 am
dakota
lol. execute lal. fuggin awesome. lmfaoooooooooo
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:43 am
I wish Waufle could have been here during the Shell-Walsh era.
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Mike Waufle has a wife & kids …
I wonder what breakfast is like at the Waufle house?
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:45 am
new englandraider,
The old Pau GaSOFT showed up last night didn’t he….missed those free throws, that layup and that rebound all at the end of the game…
And Kobe needs to take the all-star break off and mend some of his wounds don’t you think?
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:46 am
cutt huff?
no way man. dude made great strides in his development. our defense played best, when we had 3 safeties on the field. seemed to pressure the opposing qb a lot more frequently. that sack against baltimore, in which huff and mitchell meet at the qb was a thing of beauty. i wish we could get some splits on yards allowed with the 3 S’s on field. we must see a lot more of that
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:46 am
new englandraider: Pau Gasol = Kurt Rambis
Gasol will now be known as Rambis #31
LOL
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:48 am
Where is my main man Exlaseasonticketholder?
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:48 am
Mike Waufle has a wife & kids …
I wonder what breakfast is like at the Waufle house?
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Thats funny.lol
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:49 am
Dakota he is trying to sell his extra ticket!
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:49 am
Where is my main man Exlaseasonticketholder?
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he’s writing a 3 page letter to AD titled “Why Cable should stay connected”
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:50 am
dakota
i have stated b4, i think kobe shuts it down after the celts game. i think they play the night after that and then home, allstar break coming up. 3 weeks to rest and he’ll be ok. good thing is gasol has missed 17 games. we still have best record. he will be fresher than normal come post season. our problem is lack of a big off the bench. odom is a sf. can guard lanky bigs but not strong one. powell is useless. a 6-9 shooting guard basically. mbenga good at help d (blocked shots) but a liabilty in man 2 man d as well as on offense. gaffney next year. we need a solid big off the bench.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:51 am
rockstar
u must have better weed than i do
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:51 am
By T.J. Quinn
ESPN
“A convicted drug dealer who says he used to supply steroids to former baseball slugger Mark McGwire told ESPN on Thursday that McGwire’s goal was to get “bigger, faster, stronger” to improve his performance on the field, contradicting recent statements by McGwire, who said he used the drugs to maintain his health.
Curtis Wenzlaff, speaking to ESPN’s Outside the Lines, said he feels there is no doubt that the array of drugs he provided McGwire helped him become a more-accomplished home-run hitter.
“Will it help you hit a baseball?” Wenzlaff said. “Let me put it to you this way. If Paris Hilton was to take that array, she could run over Dick Butkus.”"
LMFAO!!!!!
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:51 am
Pau Gasoft is a friend of mine
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:53 am
By Bruce Horovitz, USA TODAY
“Gimme a Whopper, fries — and a beer.
Those words are no longer wishful thinking. Friday, Burger King (BKC) will unveil plans to sell beer and burgers at a Whopper Bar — a new BK concept to compete with casual dining restaurants — in Miami Beach’s tourist-heavy South Beach. The South Beach Whopper Bar is scheduled to open in mid-February.”
Sweeeet! (Burp)
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:54 am
rockstar
whats next? a magic johnson/smush parker comparison? perhaps bo jackson/lamont jordan.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:54 am
Tom Cable has been training hard this offseason. they are gonna shoot him out of a cannon before 2010 NFL scouting combine
Al Davis is trying to earn more money to spend in an uncapped year, so he’s competing with Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey to see how has the best clown show in America
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:55 am
i went out walking but i took my time
a friend of the devil is a friend of mine
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:56 am
Dakota,
does that mean we can expect to see Russell waddle into camp each day fat AND drunk ???
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:57 am
Thank you new englandraider
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:57 am
who has, not “how has”
typo!
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:58 am
russell will show up 30 lbs lighter. bet on it. will it make a difference? i hope so, but probably not
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:59 am
So you agree we didn’t make much of an improvement, and were still shyty.
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We went from awful to atleast decent.. and with this offesive line and personell yes thats an improvemeny=t. Now lets see what cabes can do with decent qb play for a whole year and some new pieces.
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:01 am
NE,
how is Burger King serving beer gonna help JR lose weight? seriously …
only way people lose weight that aren’t motivated is by getting liposuction. or lap band surgery (is that what it’s called?)
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:02 am
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January 22nd, 2010 at 11:03 am
A little “trickle down their legs” economics background info.
William Jennings Bryan at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago in 1896: “There are those who believe that you just legislate to make the well-to-do prosperous, that their prosperity will leak through on those below. The Democratic idea has been that if you legislate to make the masses prosperous their prosperity will find its way up and through every class that rests upon it.”
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:03 am
Cable as HC & Russell as QB for 16 games next year = 4-12 and last place in the AFC West
then another change at HC in the offseason
write that down & hold me to it!
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:03 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:56 am
Dakota,
does that mean we can expect to see Russell waddle into camp each day fat AND drunk ???
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Ohhh schyt…I’ll bet Russell already has his application in for a franchise location…in his mansion…
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:05 am
rockstar
jr is going to change his diet. he will replace the “tussin” and the hippie lettuce with cocaine and crystal meth
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:05 am
Al Davis + Tom Cable = Insane Clown Posse ???
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:05 am
lose 30lbs guaranteed
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:06 am
Waufle. Is it pronounced Waffle or Woeful?
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:08 am
According to rotoworld the Cardinals are “earnestly” shopping WR Anquan Boldin. Apperently Arizona was offered a 3rd round pick and “a player” last year for Boldin and it wasn’t enough. This year with the emergence of Doucett and Breaston his void will be adaquatley filled for cheaper. Arizona would now be satisfied with that compansation. (3rd & player)
Any thoughts on The Raiders possibly working something out? God knows we could use the presence of an established veteran wideout. They can have our 3rd round pick and Kirk Morrison as far as I’m concerned. We all know big Al loves the big names, and the headlines.
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:10 am
hey hairy bush. my fellow mma$$hole
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:11 am
Hey Scottish!
You don’t visit very often anymore…Al finally break your spirit or something?
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:11 am
where u at? me new bedford
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:12 am
Javon Walker + 2nd Round draft pick lands Anquan Boldin
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:12 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:05 am
Al Davis + Tom Cable = Insane Clown Posse ???
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Insane Ass Clown Posse
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:13 am
people from massachusetts are called Ma$$hole
people from florida r conch suckers
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:13 am
Ma$$hole in the house
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:13 am
Scottish Raider Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:06 am
Waufle. Is it pronounced Waffle or Woeful?
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Awful with a “W” in front. As in Geo. W(awful) Bush
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:14 am
RR-Why would they be so kind as to take Javon off of our hands?
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:14 am
where u at hairy?
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:14 am
Boldin will be 30 next season…trade the Great Justin Fargas and a 3rd for him….then cut JLH.
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:14 am
don’t get me wrong that would be great and all
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:15 am
representin from South Hadley MA (western MA)
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:16 am
hairy
dont listen to rockstar. he is lost at times. he’s probably from alabama like jruss. u know where the men are men and the sheep are nervous. #1 rated tv show down there…. TOUCHED BY AN UNCLE
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:16 am
Dakota, I’m sure they are just waiting to get there hands on a prize like Fargas lol
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:16 am
to funny
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:16 am
javon walker and a 2nd rd pick might land us early doucet… not boldin
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:17 am
was in granby the other day. is that close by?
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:17 am
JLH was right up there on the biggest disappointments of 2009 list for the Raiders, along with Russell, McFadden, DHB and Chris Johnson.
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:17 am
Why would they be so kind as to take Javon off of our hands?
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Walker was healthy last year. just in Al or Tom’s doghouse. he already took a paycut last offseason.
plus a 2nd rounder is more enticing than a 3rd, no?
they lose a WR and gain a WR …
surely AZ wouldn’t expect Javon to produce in Oakland if he never sniffed the field
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:17 am
Anybody read the harbaugh article with him getting punked up against the wall by big Al?
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:18 am
is walker still under contract??? he signed 6 yrs right? what happens if we cut him????
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:19 am
any link hairy?
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:19 am
I agree the 2nd would be more anticing for them, I still don’t see Javon being part of ANY trade scenario. perhaps they would take the 2nd and just say no thanks to Javon.
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:20 am
dakota
ur not kiddin about jlh. who was it that glossed him scary lee higgins. that was a classic
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:20 am
go to rotoworld.com under nfl, it is one of there top stories
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:22 am
HairyBush Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:17 am
Anybody read the harbaugh article with him getting punked up against the wall by big Al?
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Yeah, I read that…
Yes Mr. Davis. Yes Mr. Davis. Yes Mr. Davis
Lol….that is how you placate the elderly and mentally ill I guess.
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:23 am
Dakota, I guess that could be the only explanation LMAO
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:24 am
Purdy: Stanford’s Jim Harbaugh, Oakland Raiders wouldn’t be a good pairing
By Mark Purdy
Mercury News Columnist
Posted: 01/21/2010 10:21:31 PM PST
Updated: 01/21/2010 11:46:08 PM PST
When it comes to the process of hiring a football coach, no one creates confusion like the Raiders. Unless it’s Jim Harbaugh, the Stanford coach.
And if you combine those two chemical elements . . . well, you have the football gossip equivalent of dropping a Mento into a one-liter soda bottle.
Thus, this week.
As the fate of Raiders head coach Tom Cable remains up in the air, one report says team owner Al Davis has asked Harbaugh to replace Cable. Harbaugh has supposedly refused the offer. The Raiders deny the offer was made. Harbaugh is out recruiting. His agent calls the rumors bunk but says that Davis and Harbaugh have a “very special relationship.” The world trembles.
Chill out, citizens. Everything does point to Cable soon being gone from the Raiders. And someone else will be taking his place, obviously. But I am 99.9 percent certain that these five words will never appear alongside each other in the same sentence: Raiders head coach Jim Harbaugh.
I have reasons for believing this. One of the reasons dates to 2003. That football season, Harbaugh was the Raiders’ quarterback coach, working under Bill Callahan.
It was a Monday night. The Raiders were losing by three touchdowns at Denver. In the waning moments of the fourth quarter, Raiders backup quarterback Marques Tuiasosopo was on the field, performing mop-up duty. Tuisasosopo threw a ball into the end zone. The pass was intercepted. Touchback. The Broncos ran out the clock. Game over. Broncos win, 31-10.
Minutes later, the locker room door opened. Journalists entered. To our left, the players were silently dressing at their lockers. But to our right, Harbaugh was standing between Al Davis and a wall. Neither the wall nor Davis was budging. Davis was inches away from Harbaugh’s face, angry about the Tuisasosopo interception.
“I thought you told me that you were teaching him how to throw that pass over the linebacker’s head!” Davis said, although I am leaving out the profane adjectives between some of those words. Davis kept up this lecture for quite a while, with impressive saltiness.
And what was Harbaugh’s response? Well, he couldn’t go anywhere. So he just kept repeating: “Yes, Mr. Davis. Yes, Mr. Davis. Yes, Mr. Davis.”
As anyone who spends time around the Raiders knows, this is the price paid by coaches when they work for Davis. He spares none of them. They know this when they sign up. They’re all grown ups. I didn’t stand and gawk. I took note of the scene and then turned to the lockers and went about my work.
But I do remember thinking to myself at the time: Of all the plays to get mad at an assistant coach about, in a three touchdown loss . . . I wonder how long Harbaugh wants to keep working here?
A few months later, the issue was moot. Callahan was fired. Harbaugh left the Raiders and became head coach at the University of San Diego. He was very successful. Stanford hired him. He excavated the program out of misery and took the Cardinal to a bowl game in 2009. He is mentioned for just about every job opening that comes up, in college or the NFL.
And here we are.
Would Harbaugh ever take an NFL job? Yes, the right one. Eventually. I can’t believe it would be the Raiders, however. Harbaugh has seen how the sausage is made in Oakland. He respects Davis, who gave Harbaugh his first pro coaching job. For this, Harbaugh will always be grateful.
But there is a big leap between respect, appreciation and accepting a head coaching paycheck from Davis. Shortly after Harbaugh took the Stanford job, I mentioned that night in Denver to him. Did Harbaugh remember it? Yes, he remembered. I asked him to elaborate. He just smiled and shrugged. He didn’t want to go there.
Last summer during Stanford preseason drills, though, I was intrigued when Harbaugh struck up a conversation and asked if I had been to the Raiders’ training camp. I didn’t read too much into it. But I noted it.
My impression: Harbaugh and Davis do talk on the phone. Of course they do. Davis loves talking football. So does Harbaugh. I’m sure they enjoy picking each other’s brains about the game and various players. A coach can have an entirely different sort of rapport and connection with Davis when he isn’t the boss.
That relationship, however, does not mean that Harbaugh is eager to work for Davis again. It also does not mean he will be at Stanford forever. Harbaugh has enough confidence and ego to believe he will have a perfect NFL opportunity one day.
Right now, would anyone describe the Raiders as perfect?
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:25 am
Not sure what happens if we cut walker, In the same sentence who cares? Between him and Nick Miller last year we could of possibly had more depth at O-line or anywhere for that matter. what a waste.
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:26 am
Javon Walker is due to make $2.6 million this year & $3.2 million next year
pretty cheap if he can stay healthy and get out of the doghouse.
not likely with Cable in charge!
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:28 am
RR-like I said what a waste.
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:29 am
Didn’t Walker re-structure his contract to be more cap-friendly in exchange for having last year’s and this years salaries guaranteed at $4.5 million per?
I guess Al would rather keep the useless POS on the Roster than cut him and still have to pay him $4.5 million.
I think he should have been cut and then maybe a player that could contribute might be put on the roster? Same with Nick Miller? Maybe a decent blocking FB for instance? Or maybe a guard?
Call me crazy!
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:30 am
BREAKING NEWS-this just in, Darren Mcfadden will be returning kicks and playing as a slot receiver for the Raiders.
My bad, that was Reggie bush, oops
I can dream right?!??!
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:31 am
Javon Walker has no trade value
Walker and a 2nd wont bring here Boldin or Doucet. Doucet is like 24 and Javon 30+, I would keep Doucet
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:31 am
surely there is someone on the waiver wire capable of playing better than luke lawton. was glad when he was suspended. makes u wonder about those ped’s
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:32 am
el tato
que paso?
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:32 am
Anquan Boldin signed a 4 year, $22.67 million contract extension through 2010. He is due $2.75 million for 2009 and $3 million in 2010.
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He’s only making $3 million this year?
I doubt they trade him unless Warner retires. then they won’t be a playoff contender any longer and could probably use the extra picks or players …
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:33 am
Trade DMAC for Boldin!
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:33 am
Dakota, I hope the Raiders make smarter decsions when it comes to personnel this year. As I stated earlier, I can dream right!?!?!
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:34 am
Boldin is only making 400k more than Walker this year…
LOL!
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:34 am
Keep on dreaming….is it any wonder why Gruden wanted control of the 53 man roster?
Jezuz
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:35 am
damn hopefully dmac and jruss had their sophomore slumps last year. granted was jr’s 3rd yr but 2nd as a starter. looks like dhb’s reception count is about to go down next season.. oh boy!
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:35 am
easy with the DMAC For Boldin talk
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:35 am
Trade DMAC for Beannie Wells
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:36 am
looks like dhb’s reception count is about to go down next season.. oh boy!
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Can he have negative receptions, like -3 catches or what?
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:37 am
trade Russell for Leinart!
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:37 am
DHB’s reception count to go down? lol yeah I’m figuring like 7 receptions and a 2 point convertion LMAO
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:38 am
Heyward-Bey in 2010:
34 catches, 521 yards & 4 TD’s
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:39 am
speaking of negatives. how did jlh manage a punt return avg above 5 yrds? dude ran backwards more often than not. im very confused
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:40 am
sounds good rockstar. hopefully he does that as our 3rd receiver
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:41 am
Heyward-Bey in 2010:
34 catches, 521 yards & 4 TD’s
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I would sign that numbers right now.
If they are healthy, Schilens and Murphy should have around 800 yards next year.
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:41 am
If Arizona took Russell of our hands I would personally hand deliver the deed to my buisness,my house, and cars, as a thank-you to Mr. Bidwell!
Damn, just woke up and realised no one will ever trade for Russell or Javon-ever-period
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:41 am
HairyBush Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:35 am
easy with the DMAC For Boldin talk
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You are right. We would have to give up a few draft picks along with that worthless pigeon-toed disgrace.
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:41 am
hopefully he does that as our 3rd receiver
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with Russell at QB for 16 starts cut those #’s in half
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:42 am
I would like to see DHB succeed, he’s not a bad kid. He just needs some stickum.
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:44 am
HB,
according to Al Davis:
you can teach hands, but you can’t teach speed.
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:44 am
Bo, do you see no hope for DMAC, even if used differently?
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:46 am
do you see no hope for DMAC, even if used differently?
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HB …
BSJ is all about HOPE & CHANGE
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:47 am
RR- just a smidge of sarcasm
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:48 am
Our coaches should play the best WRs, right now, Murphy and Schilens.
Higgins can be a good slot WR, he should be running shrt crossing routes all the game.
DHB should have a Meachem or Devery Henderson role in NO, occasional deep threat (if he learns how to catch a football, if not he will have a Troy Williamson role with MIN)
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:49 am
Do you figure big Al is waiting tor the week before the probowl to make the big announcement that there is no announcement? That dude loves the spotlight, just like Jerry lones sporing his gay leather fonzie coat lol
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:49 am
This is my cut/keep list, not taking into consideration contract status, free agency etc…
21 Asomugha, Nnamdi CB 6-2 210 28 7 California-Keep
33 Branch, Tyvon SS 6-0 205 23 2 Connecticut-Keep
90 Bryant, Desmond DT 6-5 290 24 0 Harvard-Keep
29 Bush, Michael RB 6-1 245 25 2 Louisville-Keep
59 Condo, Jon LS 6-3 250 28 3 Maryland-Keep
50 Ekejiuba, Isaiah LB 6-4 240 28 5 Virginia-Keep
99 Ellis, Greg DE 6-6 265 34 12 North Carolina-Keep
5 Gradkowski, Bruce QB 6-1 220 26 4 Toledo-Keep
75 Henderson, Mario T 6-7 300 25 3 Fl State-Keep
12 Heyward-Bey, Darrius WR 6-2 210 22 0 Maryld-Keep
53 Howard, Thomas OLB 6-3 240 26 4 T-El Paso-keep
24 Huff, Michael FS 6-1 205 26 4 Texas-Keep
11 Janikowski, Sebastian K 6-2 250 31 10 Fl St-Keep
37 Johnson, Chris CB 6-1 200 30 6 Louisville-Keep
9 Lechler, Shane P 6-2 225 33 10 Texas A&M-Keep
7 Losman, J.P. QB 6-2 210 28 6 Tulane-Keep
20 McFadden, Darren RB 6-2 210 22 2 Arkansas-Keep
80 Miller, Zach TE 6-5 255 24 3 Arizona State-Keep
34 Mitchell, Mike SS 6-1 220 22 0 Ohio Un-Keep
18 Murphy, Louis WR 6-2 200 22 0 Florida-Keep
83 Myers, Brandon TE 6-4 250 24 0 Iowa-Keep
98 Richardson, Jay DE 6-6 280 25 3 Ohio State-Keep
81 Schilens, Chaz WR 6-4 225 24 2 San Di State-Keep
91 Scott, Trevor DE 6-5 255 25 2 Buffalo-Keep
92 Seymour, Richard DE 6-6 310 30 9 Georgia-Keep
77 Shaughnessy, Matt DE 6-5 270 23 0 Wisconsin-Keep
86 Stewart, Tony TE 6-5 260 30 9 Penn State-Keep
70 Walker, Langston T 6-8 365 30 8 California-Keep
69 Barnes, Khalif T 6-5 325 27 5 Washington-Cut
30 Boyd, Jerome S 6-2 225 23 0 Oregon-Cut
66 Carlisle, Cooper G 6-5 295 32 10 Florida-Cut
31 Eugene, Hiram FS 6-2 200 29 4 Louisiana Tech-Cut
3 Frye, Charlie QB 6-4 220 28 5 Akron-Cut
74 Green, Cornell T 6-6 315 33 10 Ctl Florida-Cut
97 Gunheim, Greyson DE 6-5 265 23 2 Washington-Cut
15 Higgins, Johnnie L WR 5-11 185 26 3 T-El Paso-Cut
23 Holland, Jonathan DB 6-1 195 24 2 L Tech-Cut
94 Joseph, William DT 6-5 310 30 7 Miami (Fla.)-Cut
51 Morris, Chris C 6-4 305 26 4 Michigan State-Cut
56 Nixon, David LB 6-3 225 24 0 Brigham Young-Cut
72 Pears, Erik T 6-8 305 27 4 Colorado State-Cut
45 Reece, Marcel RB 6-3 240 24 1 Washington-Cut
26 Routt, Stanford CB 6-1 195 26 5 Houston-Cut
22 Russell, Gary RB 5-11 215 23 3 Minnesota-Cut
64 Satele, Samson C 6-3 300 25 3 Hawaii-Cut
84 Walker, Javon WR 6-3 215 31 8 Florida State-Cut
19 Watkins, Todd WR 6-2 190 26 2 BYU-Cut
54 Williams, Sam OLB 6-5 260 29 7 Fresno State-Cut
25 Fargas, Justin RB 6-1 220 29 7 USC-Keep unless Cable is still HC, then cut, or trade
93 Kelly, Tommy DT 6-6 300 29 6 Miss State-Maybe cut
61 Warren, Gerard DT 6-4 330 31 9 Florida-Maybe cut
52 Morrison, Kirk MLB 6-2 240 27 5 San Di State-CKeep if willing to move outside…otherwise let him go
2 Russell, JaMarcus QB 6-6 260 24 3 Lou St-Keep until training camp to see if he put any work in during the offseason
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:50 am
HairyBush Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:44 am
Bo, do you see no hope for DMAC, even if used differently?
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Sure, if he is used to shine Al’s shoes. JK!
The knock on DMAC when drafted was that he went down easily and fumbled too much. Little did the experts know that both issues would worsen considerably in the pros.
He must give way to Bush for RB carries. Theoretically he could be used to catch passes or run back kicks, but I fear his fumbling would only hurt us there too.
I say trade the bust before his value drops even more.
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:51 am
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January 22nd, 2010 at 11:51 am
BSJ likes McFadden as much as new englandraider likes the man who abused him when he was young
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:51 am
EL tato- sorry to burst your bubble, but higging is done. It’s to bad because he was an electrifying punt returner. WAS is the key word.
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:53 am
Dakota,
Re” List. I would keep Javon Walker before McFadden. Higgins mught be worth keeping too.
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:54 am
Dakota,
nice cut/keep list. Only changes I would make …
how do you cut Charlie Frye without even thinking twice about it and give Warren & Kelly a big fat “maybe” ?
our run defense is awful!
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:55 am
93 Kelly, Tommy DT 6-6 300 29 6 Miss State-Maybe cut
61 Warren, Gerard DT 6-4 330 31 9 Florida-Maybe cut
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I cant agree.
LBs are the main problem when it comes to stop the run. We have many holes to cut both starting DTs.
The Raiders are 6th in the NFL in tackles for loss by the Defensive Line, the problem is when the RB gets 5 yards and the LBs have to make the tackle they are blocked, out of position or just fail to make a tackle, so the gain can be very long.
Get ROLANDO McCLAIN and keep the DL, instead of cutting both DTs and still have a need at ILB.
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:55 am
Even after his bad rookie year I had hope for JLH, then in 2008 he really started to make plays.
But at that time his IQ was around 80…after Russell left him hanging out to dry a few times, his IQ is now around 65….and that is too low…even for the Raiders.
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:55 am
lol rockstar
is that pay back for the touched by an uncle thing? good one
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:56 am
Dakota, very reasonable list. I don’t love stanford routt by any means, as a 3rd corner I have to admit we could do a LOT worse. consider that
I still can’t believe Chris Carr was starting for the Ravens
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:56 am
Higgins mught be worth keeping too.
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I agree BSJ.
I would give JLH more reps at WR and find another return man – or maybe just let him return kicks?
He’s a flop at PR.
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:58 am
when routt is not covering slot receiver he is a pretty decent corner
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:58 am
is that pay back for the touched by an uncle thing? good one
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i’m not from Alabama. fire away!
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:58 am
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:54 am
Dakota,
nice cut/keep list. Only changes I would make …
how do you cut Charlie Frye without even thinking twice about it and give Warren & Kelly a big fat “maybe” ?
our run defense is awful!
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I like Losman over Frye and we should not carry 4 QBs IMO. I like the idea of Kelly or Warren playing next to a legit NT (the one we finally draft or sign this year right? lol), and I am not sure which one would make the better three tech DT next to our new NT.
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:59 am
dude is too scared to return punts. why do u think he 1st instinct is to run backwards or sideways?
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:59 am
LOL, the A’s top prospect Grant Desme quit MLB to become a priest…
Why can’t any of our busts get religion?!? DMAC, can I get an AMEN!?!
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:59 am
new englandraider is like Wes Welker.
only used in the slots
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:53 am
Dakota,
Re” List. I would keep Javon Walker before McFadden. Higgins mught be worth keeping too.
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I know you would….lol
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:01 pm
i think tommy kelly played like crap this past season. he was in top 10 in tackles for dlinemen. something i wouldnt have thought. hopefully he’ll be better next season as he will be another yr removed from major knee surgery
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:02 pm
lata fellas
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Dakota,
If Higgins IQ is around 65, what is Russell’s ???
yowsa…
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:02 pm
pockets full today huh rockstar? really hurt by the touched by an uncle thing. im sorry bro
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:02 pm
JLH averages 46 yards/game in the last 9 games he started at WR in 2008 and 2009.
Just compare that to the numbers Murphy and DHB had the first 8 games this season.
JLH is average, but he is not that bad to be cut.
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:03 pm
later Hairy
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:03 pm
yep especially ur wife’s slot
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:04 pm
call me a thief, as im always lurking in her bush
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:05 pm
of course we need the jaws of life to spread her legs, but hey im sick i need help
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Houston Texans rookie Brian Cushing will not play in the Pro Bowl because of several injuries
Kirk Morrison has replaced him
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:06 pm
El Tato Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:55 am
93 Kelly, Tommy DT 6-6 300 29 6 Miss State-Maybe cut
61 Warren, Gerard DT 6-4 330 31 9 Florida-Maybe cut
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I cant agree.
LBs are the main problem when it comes to stop the run. We have many holes to cut both starting DTs.
The Raiders are 6th in the NFL in tackles for loss by the Defensive Line, the problem is when the RB gets 5 yards and the LBs have to make the tackle they are blocked, out of position or just fail to make a tackle, so the gain can be very long.
Get ROLANDO McCLAIN and keep the DL, instead of cutting both DTs and still have a need at ILB.
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Well, I just don’t know. It seems to me that far too many times our LBs are getting blocked because our DTs don’t always demand a double team in running situations and therefore someone is left clear to engage the LBs. I think Morrison is too weak and can’t shed block well enough for a MLB, but I also believe that we need a true NT to occupy the guard and center on running plays which should free up our MLB to make more plays near the LOS or in the backfield.
Even Ray Lewis dropped off until the Ravens finally got another beast NT, Haloti Ngata.
Like I said to Rockstar, I think Warren and Kelly make fine 3 tech DTs, we just need that NT next to them…and that will help our MLB…but we do need a stronger MLB anyhow. My preference is to get both a NT and a new MLB….but I would replace the NT first.
Just the way I see it.
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Why can’t any of our busts get religion?!? DMAC, can I get an AMEN!?!
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I think McFadden should spend some time with Napolean Kaufman too!
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:06 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Houston Texans rookie Brian Cushing will not play in the Pro Bowl because of several injuries
Kirk Morrison has replaced him
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The hell you say!
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Sorry to be OT, guys, but I’m watching Mark McGuire on ESPN right now, and the press really seems to be turning the corner and redeeming him. Bonds should fess up now, as well. And, it will be interesting to see if the press shows the same consideration for Barry. Marion Jones, as well. Or has Marion already come clean about it? I know she’s done time, don’t know if she’s ever actually admitted doing it. McGuire really seems to be on the “he made a mistake, let’s move on” status with the press right now. Interesting to see if Barry and Marion would get the same redemption.
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
look it up BSJ!
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Keep JLH
Nick Miller not on the list…
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Just read most of the comments from this morning. This blog can use an injection of critical thought.
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Elvis Dumervil, James Harrison & Kirk Morrison now …
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:11 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
look it up BSJ!
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Ahhh here it is:
http://www.fatchance.com/dreamON
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Dakota,
I agree with you, I also think we need a NT. Kelly and Warren disrupt tha backfield at times and create pressure in passing situations at times but they cant occupie 2 blocker, I know. Also Morrison should be outside,Howard is weak in run defense and Scott is still learning.
I m sure we need a NT, but getting rid of our 2 starting DTs only creates another big hole. If we could get McClain or Terrence Cody it would be great, those 2 were the most important piezes in the #1 run defense in College.
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Did I imagine it, or did JLH seem like he lost his cool? He seemed way to skittish last year…I don’t know if you can fix a head case like that.
Ask Andrew Walter.
That would be the only reason I would cut him…if he somehow regains his confidence then great keep him….but he seems cracked too me.
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Morrison making the Pro Bowl just before a contract year bodes well for him.
he’s led the team in tackles for 4 straight seasons. over 100 tackles in all 5 years with Oakland
highly respected player around the league.
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Morrison to the Pro Bowl, is that true? Link?
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:16 pm
way to go Captain Kirk!
sporting the silver & black in Miami
that makes 4 pro bowlers, going on 6
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:16 pm
El Tato,
I certainly wouldn’t want both Kelly and Warren gone, that is why I said maybe cut them…we have to keep at least one of them, and if they are both willing to re-negotiate, I would love to see them rotate at the 3 tech spot. But I like Desmond Bryant too….so one of them should get cut if they are not willing to take a pay cut and we get a NT.
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Is there any way Trevor Scott could play MLB?
Is he too tall at 6′5″?
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Dakota,
we agree we need a REAL NT. I hope we get one this offseaon, that would make every LB and S look better.
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:26 pm
WTF! it’s 43 freaking degrees outside here in SO-CAL!
One has to wear levi’s and a carhart coat, plus sho3s, to venture out to the local taco stand for lunch…lol
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:29 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:26 pm
WTF! it’s 43 freaking degrees outside here in SO-CAL!
One has to wear levi’s and a carhart coat, plus sho3s, to venture out to the local taco stand for lunch…lol
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It’s hilarious how a little weather in SoCal is breaking national news on CNN, etc.
When I lived there I remember they sprayed malathion from helicopters…how about some testosterone next time?
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:30 pm
43 degrees? LOL
you probably won’t get any sympathy from Dakota or I!
I was out deer hunting on Christmas day and it was 10 below
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:29 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:26 pm
WTF! it’s 43 freaking degrees outside here in SO-CAL!
One has to wear levi’s and a carhart coat, plus sho3s, to venture out to the local taco stand for lunch…lol
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It’s hilarious how a little weather in SoCal is breaking national news on CNN, etc.
When I lived there I remember they sprayed malathion from helicopters…how about some testosterone next time
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LMFAO
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:39 pm
a true disaster is sending 250,000 soldiers/military personnel into the cauldron/quagmire of Central Asia and paying one trillion dollars to do so.
while the Raiders coaching carousel my be irksome and untidy it is not disastrous.
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:39 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Sorry to be OT, guys, but I’m watching Mark McGuire on ESPN right now, and the press really seems to be turning the corner and redeeming him. Bonds should fess up now, as well. And, it will be interesting to see if the press shows the same consideration for Barry. Marion Jones, as well. Or has Marion already come clean about it? I know she’s done time, don’t know if she’s ever actually admitted doing it. McGuire really seems to be on the “he made a mistake, let’s move on” status with the press right now. Interesting to see if Barry and Marion would get the same redemption.
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Bonds went get the same treatment no matter what, and it pisses me off. They scapegoated that guy, and did all they could to slander him to pieces, when he was no different than 25% of the other players in the league, except he was better.
I am probably one of the world’s biggest Barry fans. Have his bobble-head at my desk, and a framed picture of him hitting #70 in the office, and when my cousin wrote a book on him, I got to meet him in Spring Training one year a couple of times.
Yup I am an Al Davis and Barry Bonds apologist. I am a debate/argument waiting to happen.
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:42 pm
BSJ…Rockstar…Dakota…
Hey, I’m the first to admit to being a puss, whenever the temp dips below 70*…But 43* might as well be -10* out here…lol
At least the LAFD just rescued a german shepard from te sewer that’s called the L.A river just now. Kudos!
January 22nd, 2010 at 1:01 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:12 am
Javon Walker + 2nd Round draft pick lands Anquan Boldin
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Or, a 3rd round pick without Yvonne Walker.
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:00 pm
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