Part of the Bay Area News Group

Good news for Lechler, not for Seabass

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, January 27th, 2010 at 8:50 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Shane Lechler was named to the NFL’s All-Decade team as voted upon by Hall of Fame writers, but his trusty sidekicker, Sebastian Janikowski, remained unrewarded for the best season of his career.

The entire All-Decade team won’t be released until Sunday, although teams were giving out information in some cases with regard to players who were selected.

Lechler happens to have compiled the NFL’s highest all-time average in a career which began in 2000, so his selection was an honor, but hardly a surprise.

Janikowski, meanwhile, failed to get so much as a phone call after Nate Kaeding pulled out following a groin injury following Wednesday’s practice.

Instead, Miami’s Dan Carpenter, possibly on the basis of proximity to the practice field, was invited to take Kaeding’s place.

Janikowski had a better field goal percentage (26-for-29, 90 percent) than Carpenter (25-for-28, 89 percent) not to mention 17 touchbacks in 58 kickoffs, while Carpenter had only 7 of 79.

Carpenter was 9-for-9 from 20 to 29 yards, while Janikowski had only three attempts from that distance and made them all. He was dialing “O” for long distance all season.

Profootballtalk.com had a post earlier in the day wondering if Janikowski had been offered a chance but couldn’t make the game on short notice. According to the Raiders, no such offer was extended. Janikowski wasn’t a first alternate, and frankly I’m not sure if Carpenter was either. Not with established kickers such as Tennessee’s Rob Bironas around.

And the Pro Bowl is not a big deal _ even less so since it was moved out of Hawaii.

Still, it probably would have been nice for Janikowski to be asked.

Not that Seabass needs anyone to feel sorry for him. Expect him to cash in on a big-money contract much as Lechler did last year.

Lechler is one of twelve Pro Bowl players to be named to the All-Decade team. The others are San Diego tight end Antonio Gates, Jets guard Alan Faneca, Minnesota guard Steve Hutchinson, Titans center Kevin Mawae, Panthers defensive end Julius Peppers, Ravens middle linebacker Ray Lewis, Cowboys linebacker DeMarcus Ware, Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey, Eagles safety Brian Dawkins, Eagles kicker David Akers, and Browns kickoff returner Joshua Cribbs.

The dominant dozen has combined for 77 Pro Bowl selections.

  • Share/Bookmark

[You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.]

279 Responses to “Good news for Lechler, not for Seabass”

  1. IslandRaider Says:

    Where am I?

  2. Raider O Says:

    Mista,

    I know that health insurance co and pharmaceutical co are making a lot of money while some Americans can’t afford cold medication.

  3. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    They need to work harder then, O.

  4. Norco Bob Says:

    Americans who cant afford cold meds should get a better job. Not our fault they quit school to be bums.

  5. Raider O Says:

    STL,

    LMAO

  6. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    I was being serious.

  7. Norco Bob Says:

    By the way, Jerry creamed David White on CL tonight.

  8. Norco Bob Says:

    Only welfare cases want government run health care.

  9. Raider O Says:

    STL,

    Some work 2 jobs 60+ hours/ week, but can’t afford much. How much harder can they work?

  10. Norco Bob Says:

    I dont have health care, and dont want it,..if I get sick or hurt I will pay for it. bfd.

  11. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Norco,

    Did you notice that while Jerry was taping the show we haven’t heard from our pal Richochet?

    I’m just sayin.

  12. Norco Bob Says:

    Rider O,..are you a man or a woman?…you are the only person in here that Iv ever asked that of,..you post as a woman would.

  13. Norco Bob Says:

    Jerry isnt a poster in here.

  14. Raider O Says:

    Bob,

    Do you have a legal income, and do you pay taxes? Last I heard studs were Not legal, and you don’t pat taxes on that, and 41% of the gov’s funding from taxes comes from income tax.

  15. Raider O Says:

    Bob,

    Do you have a legal income, and do you pay taxes? Last I heard drugs were Not legal, and you don’t pat taxes on that, and 41% of the gov’s funding from taxes comes from individual income tax.

  16. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    # Raider O Says:
    January 27th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    STL,

    Some work 2 jobs 60+ hours/ week, but can’t afford much. How much harder can they work?
    ——————————————————
    It’s up to them.

    Personally, I won’t miss work unless I am bleeding out of my eyeballs.

    I really don’t believe that anyone that is industrious/hard working doesn’t have the sense to provide the basics for their family.

  17. Raider O Says:

    Bob,

    I’m a man, but do share your wisdom and inform me how I post “as a woman would”

  18. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Norco, I think he does.

  19. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Talking about Richochet/Jerry in post 18. Not you O, I’m staying out of that one.

  20. Dude Says:

    Good job= good pay and good benefits IE- Health Insurance

    WTF is next, everyone in the country has to be paid the same too?? I worked my ass off the get to the point where I have a job that pays well and has a good benefit package. Those who whine about not having health care should try doing the same instead of looking for a free ride.

  21. Raider O Says:

    STL,

    That’s what I used to think too till I met people who work 60+ hours a week, try tpput a kid or two in college, and help support a family member who is sick.

    God bless them and us all.

  22. Norco Bob Says:

    Raider O,..you tend to use exclamation points alot, like a teen girl does,..Im sure you do that while texting too,..and your whining about others who cant pay for cough syrup,..sounds like a biitch, or a gay dude,..anyway you are the blog wimp, and have been since your first day here.

  23. Norco Bob Says:

    Raider O,..f*ck God.

  24. RaiderDogg Says:

    Norco

    You were right about Matt Steinmetz, complete tool.

  25. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Look O, what is really owed to us?

    Life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    We end up in different places 99.9% of the time because of the choices we make.

    Being rich and comfortable isn’t the end all be all. Be content with what you have, and you can work hard to better situation–if you have the grit.

    Remember this: STUPID SHOULD HURT….don’t be stupid.

  26. Norco Bob Says:

    Word.

  27. Raider O Says:

    Bob,

    I don’t like to text, and God Already blessed you.
    He made you a poodle owning, pill popping, drunk retard!!!!!

  28. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Post 23 = vulgar.

    Show some restraint man.

  29. Norco Bob Says:

    Theres alot of people that simply wont work, will not,..all they want is welfare, food stamps,..section 8,…nobody I know, thats for sure.

  30. Norco Bob Says:

    O,..that post called for at least 10 exclamation points,.not just 5,..weak effort.

  31. RaiderDogg Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    January 27th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
    Theres alot of people that simply wont work, will not,..all they want is welfare, food stamps,..section 8,…nobody I know, thats for sure.”

    And then there are people like Matt Steinmetz that get paid to take a crap on tv…

  32. Raider O Says:

    STL,

    It’s not about being owed anything, but these Vossre taking advatage of people. When it comes to luxury items like cars, Fast Food, etc… It’s acceptable, but not when it comes to life issues like health and education.
    BTW, it’s only my opinion, but I would have agreed with you a few years back.

  33. Norco Bob Says:

    Thats because Steinjew is a tool…told him so at a Warriors game too.

  34. Raider O Says:

    Sorry Bob! but I!ll try harder next time!

  35. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Well it’s been a little slice of heaven.

    I’m gonna go watch Simon Cowell belittle the mildly retarded……Like Jamarcus.

    Ooooo snap!

  36. Norco Bob Says:

    I see O,..so a few years ago you were a man,..now youre a biitch,..that clears things up.

  37. Raider O Says:

    *Vossr: Companies

  38. Norco Bob Says:

    You should stick with gay draft board predictions,..thats about your speed,…I will pay attention to the draft the night before the draft,…or maybe wait til the day of…but you enjoy dreaming about it daily for the next four months O.

  39. Raider O Says:

    I enjoy talking draft as much as you enjoy popping pills, and walking poodles on the beach!

  40. KoolKell Says:

    Doofus Boob,

    When’s the last time you had your teeth cleaned?

  41. Norco Bob Says:

    Whens the last time I…huh?…get to the punch line old man.

  42. Chris in NY Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    January 27th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
    Only welfare cases want government run health care.

    —————–

    I assume you’re just trolling, so I should probably ignore you. But just in case, welfare cases already have government run health care, it’s called Medicaid. It’s the people who are in business for themselves or work for small businesses or are considered independent contractors who work their azzes off but can’t afford to pay $1,600 per month for health insurance for them and their family that are getting screwed.

  43. Norco Bob Says:

    Our resident 4th generation welfare case just joined us,..hi old kell.

  44. KoolKell Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    January 27th, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    I dont have health care, and dont want it,..if I get sick or hurt I will pay for it. bfd.
    —————————-
    Doofus Boob,

    I take it you don’t get your teeth cleaned either. Hahahaha, Hehehehehe, Hahahaha, Yuck, Yuck, Yuck

  45. Norco Bob Says:

    Like I said NY,..I dont have health care, and dont want it….when I see a doc I pay for it,..I dont want anything from the government….you think health care is bad now?…wait til the feds sink their claws in it.

  46. Norco Bob Says:

    How would you know old man?…Iv invited you numerous times to tailgate with us,..you could have seen for yourself,..the offer goes for the 2010 season too.

  47. Norco Bob Says:

    Old man, brian has told me a couple times,..you wanted to meet him to settle some score,..but you never showed,..is he making that up?

  48. KoolKell Says:

    Doofus Boob

    I take it you don’t have a mortgage, job or woman either?

  49. Norco Bob Says:

    I wish MR was here,..Im really starting to like that guy.

  50. gilbert Says:

    Raider O,whats up,Raiderfan? Still dealing w/ school? Hope you kick butt w/ grades,get into a job ya like,hire Norco Bob,and that will keep the country goin,Right? Grind on young fella,and in youre spare time, check out the Raider draft! RAIDERS!!!!!!!!

  51. Norco Bob Says:

    No Old man,..none of the three. lol

  52. mack-madden Says:

    I know too many people who take advantage of the system.
    They’ll keep on going it until the system is changed.

    If it’s FREE. Give me THREE.

    But my heart goes out to the ones really tryna make it without the help/handouts.
    They Work n make JUST ABOVE the poverty line.
    The don’t qualify for the help but need it.

    Tryna do it the right way while everyone else around them getting more with less/no work

  53. Norco Bob Says:

    Im probably without all that old man because I went to SJSU,..go Spartans!

  54. r8eray Says:

    So what was the point of the State of the Union?

  55. Norco Bob Says:

    Most, if not all, welfare cases are simply lazy, and hey Im keepin it real, theyre stupid,..thought they didnt need to go to school,..why should they?…their single mom that raised them raised them on welfare,..so when they turn 16, they get pregnant, live the next 20 years on welfare,…and on and on..

  56. Norco Bob Says:

    The state of the union?…the speach?…Obama doesnt know, someone else wrote that speach,..hes just the guy thats been rehearsing it for the last week and a half.

  57. Norco Bob Says:

    But hes hardly the first prez to do that, they all do.

  58. Norco Bob Says:

    Jerry Brown for president.

  59. Chris in NY Says:

    You may be right about the potential for the feds to make it worse, but I think that general feeling is based on the highly publicized (by Republicans) but ficticious rumors that this reform bill is a government takeover. It’s far from it. It’s actually projected to reduce waste and costs in part by getting people who are sick — but not life-threateningly sick — out of high-cost hospital emergency rooms where they’re required to be seen and you and I pick up the bill. Republicans have no problem keeping this system in tact because they’re using reform to demonize Democrats and regain power.

    Don’t blame you for not wanting health care because it’s really not affordable under the current system for almost anybody anyway. You’re better off taking your chances I suppose. But if something bad were to happen to you, god forbid, you’d probably be bankrupt in no time and be stuck with shoddy medical care, too. Lack of health insurance is the No. 1 cause of bankruptcies in this country.

  60. Kirk Says:

    You can’t live on welfare for 20 years.

    The limit is 2 years.

    You can get a military pension for 20 years, however.

  61. Norco Bob Says:

    Im sorry NY,..I cant read all that…I can do maybe 4 sentences tops,..damn.

  62. Kirk Says:

    Every other industrialized country in the world has national health insurance, and they pay HALF per capita what we pay for healthcare. We are being ripped off, my friends.

  63. Chris in NY Says:

    Jerry Brown is pretty awesome. Isn’t he going to be Calif’s next Gov? I read that somewhere but haven’t heard too much about it.

  64. Norco Bob Says:

    Ya right, I know of white trash ex friends of mine in loserville Bakersfield, Iv known them for most my life, theyve been on welfare the whole time.

  65. Norco Bob Says:

    Yes he will be, and he of course was years ago, two terms.

  66. Norco Bob Says:

    Jerry should be prez now,.but hes a little too weird for some,..so instead they found the guy with the “right look”,…to attach their puppet strings too,..and hes doing a terrible job,..but hes just doing what hes told,..oh well.

  67. Norco Bob Says:

    Man, this blog is dead without MR,..I hate it when I run old kell out,..Im leaving dude,..you can come back now…lol,..g`night to all my dear friends! :)

  68. jhill Says:

    Alabama DT Terrence Cody — We understand Cody’s potential to be a space-eater inside, but his sloppy build and lack of consistent effort are hard to ignore. Cody had a hard time splitting double-teams on Day 3 and was knocked off-balance several times by the down blocker, which raises question about his overall core strength. And while his role will obviously be as an interior run-stuffer Cody offers nothing as a pass-rusher. He can be an effective bull rusher at times but he doesn’t stay low enough to generate a lot of push so offensive linemen are able to sink and anchor against him, and when that happens he has no countermove. At this point we would have a hard time using even a second-round pick on a guy who is going to give you limited snaps over the course of a game because of his weight and one-dimensional game.

  69. Raider O Says:

    Gilbert,

    I’m doing very well in school, and I hope to work in the finance sector. Is it too Much to ask for social responsibility? LOL. Our friends in the north have a good system, and more social responsibility.

    Raiders.

  70. Raider O Says:

    Gilbert,

    Correction: Raiders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  71. priesttj Says:

    Jhill, I wouldn’t touch Cody in the 1st rnd. There are some outstanding DT’s in this draft that can make your team so much better than what he has to offer. Our sustem doesn’t fit him at all. He is a true NT fit for a 3/4 only. There is a kid from SZtanford who might be had in the 3rd even 4th that has reall talent.

  72. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    January 27th, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    I dont have health care, and dont want it,..if I get sick or hurt I will pay for it. bfd.

    …………

    You liar! You can’t afford surgery. You already said you live in a studio and have two poodles.

  73. jhill Says:

    Yeah, me either.

    I’d like to take the top guy at a particular position at 8. Suh, McCoy, Morgan, Okung, McClain, or Haden.

  74. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Dude Says:
    January 27th, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    Good job= good pay and good benefits IE- Health Insurance

    WTF is next, everyone in the country has to be paid the same too?? I worked my ass off the get to the point where I have a job that pays well and has a good benefit package. Those who whine about not having health care should try doing the same instead of looking for a free ride.

    ………….

    That’s a little arrogant. Consider that a lot of people think that company’s giving health benefits is unnecessary, and that employees should pay for their own health care. They say the same of you that you say about unemployed people who need health insurance. If you do have a job that pays your health benefits right now, I’m sure you know just how rare those jobs are anymore. You’re hanging on by a string.

  75. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    January 27th, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    Theres alot of people that simply wont work, will not,..all they want is welfare, food stamps,..section 8,…nobody I know, thats for sure.

    …………………

    Then you haven’t met George W. Bush.

  76. mack-madden Says:

    Mr norco bob.

    Lazy people will he lazy.
    Born into a welfare family or a rich family.

    Who is lazier?
    The person in poverty getting handouts?
    Or the person who doesn’t work a day in their life because their family is rich?
    Because I know n associate with both scenarios.

    People who have ambition strive to make something out of themselves no matter what situation they grew up in.

    Choose to break the cycle.

  77. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    January 27th, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    Most, if not all, welfare cases are simply lazy, and hey Im keepin it real, theyre stupid,..thought they didnt need to go to school,..why should they?…their single mom that raised them raised them on welfare,..so when they turn 16, they get pregnant, live the next 20 years on welfare,…and on and on..

    …………….

    You just described Barbara and George W. Bush.

  78. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    This whole thing about welfare..it’s hilarious. All the welfare goes to the rich these days. The poor get crumbs. And we call that socialism. Ha ha! Go to a real socialist country and I guarantee you most poor people there have it better than poor people here. They have health care, and believe it or not, most of them actually do have jobs. They just get paid more. Our supply side economics is the problem. Look at how much of the money is split amongst about a thousand or so people, with everyone else having varying degrees of leftovers? When are we going to get it? And, as long as there’s one person who makes it from rags to riches here and there, they can sell us on the notion that we’ll all make it, too. We truly have the dumbest citizens in the world. No other country would fall for that. Not even England. They’re far more to the left economically than we are. We’re on our own island, sitting here being duped by a few people with all of the bread. And we have the nerve to say socialist leaders hoard all of their country’s goods.

  79. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Chris in NY Says:
    January 27th, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    Jerry Brown is pretty awesome. Isn’t he going to be Calif’s next Gov? I read that somewhere but haven’t heard too much about it.

    …………

    Jerry Brown’s an a s shole. He forks money over to police and prisons before they even ask. We’re already stretched thin in this state partly because of what we spend on locking up non violent offenders. I guarantee you this: Arnold is more liberal on this than Brown is. Brown will take all of those non violent offenders being released now, and lock up them and their grandmothers. Watch. Brown, being a Democrat, will be able to get liberal votes while throwing more money toward prisons because he’s a Democrat. Arnold doesn’t have that convenience.

    BTW, Oakland CAlifornia went to absolute shyt on Jerry Brown’s watch. All he did was put cameras in east oakland neighborhoods, which just drove crime down the street. And of course he had the gall to boast of lower crime rates in the like 70 sq. foot radius the cameras covered.

    I wanted Gavin Newsome. But this so called liberal state is set to vote for the guy who’s guaranteed to turn California into a police state.

  80. weaselbit Says:

    Kinda scary RealMad but I have to say that I actually agree with some of your posts tonight.

  81. Teabag Says:

    Obama is not a democrat… and if you believe that I have a bridge to sell you…

  82. 4evaRaider Says:

    Morning Nation!!!!

  83. texguy Says:

    I blame Obama for our 5-11 record. Where is the 1 billion dollar bailout for old Al?
    That would save jobs for at least 3 more people…

  84. El Tato Says:

    Raiders scouts at the Senior Bowl showing interest in:

    - OLB Sean Witherspoon (Mizzou)
    - OLB Koa Misi (Utah)
    - G Jeff Byers (USC)
    - ILB Donald Butler (Washington)
    - DE Antonio Coleman Auburn)

  85. Florida Pete Says:

    if Cable is kept…

    we will have a bizarre coaching structure…

    the O co-ordinator will answer to Al…

    the D co-ordinator will answer to Al…

    the o-line coach will answer to Cable…

    players with fewer than 4 years seniority or contracts that pay less then 1M per year will answer to Cable…

    players with greater than 4 years seniority or contracts that pay more than 1M per year will answer to Al…

    welcome to bizarro-football…

    where in is out… where up is down…

    where Head Coaches are accountable for things they do not control…

    where co-ordinators co-ordinate in accordance with the philosophy embedded into an 80 year old stone…

  86. El Tato Says:

    - OLB Sean Witherspoon (Mizzou)
    - OLB Koa Misi (Utah)
    - G Jeff Byers (USC)
    - ILB Donald Butler (Washington)
    - DE Antonio Coleman Auburn)
    ———————————————-

    Except Witherspoon who can go in the second or even in the late first, the other are considered mide-to-late rounders

  87. 4evaRaider Says:

    hmmm….Morrison and Howard’s contract are up and we looking at LB’s

  88. Florida Pete Says:

    imho… morrison is not a keeper…

    howard… maybe…

  89. El Tato Says:

    I think we resign Morrison and move him outside, but Howard could be let go, he is weak against the run and was benched in favor of Scott although he started at SLB later.

  90. 4evaRaider Says:

    Ricky Brown too,I think….

    Pete,I dont think any DT can help Kirk.Maybe he can move over.I dunno resign him 4 depth?

    Howard I would keep

  91. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    If Lechler wasn’t named all decade…you know the selection comittee was biased…as for Fat Boy…
    That’s pretty messed up that he wasn’t even asked. I think Kaeding SHOULD HAVE pulled out after that missed 3 FG’s (playoff) day!!!

  92. El Tato Says:

    We need a MIKE LB, thats for sure

  93. hwnrdr Says:

    WOW…reading last night’s “political” posts…MR really made sense!!! On that note…

  94. Florida Pete Says:

    actually, when MR is not grinding his axe vis-a-vis Al Davis, he does make a lot of sense…

    note:

    no. 134 on my bucket list was using the term “vis-a-vis” in a sentence on a blog…

    scratching that off right now…

    there…

  95. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.LECHLER IS A CLASS GUY,GLAD HE MADE ALL-DECADE .

  96. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dan Carpenter? seriously?

  97. 4evaRaider Says:

    yep….that’s the respect this team get’s

  98. vegas raider Says:

    Our country is so partisian right now.

    You try to debate actual facts and policies, and it is George Bush this, socialism that…….

    Have we ever been so divided politically?

  99. neilb Says:

    Good morning all.

  100. vegas raider Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 27th, 2010 at 11:12 pm

    Look at how much of the money is split amongst about a thousand or so people, with everyone else having varying degrees of leftovers? When are we going to get it? And, as long as there’s one person who makes it from rags to riches here and there, they can sell us on the notion that we’ll all make it, too

    ******************************

    Uhhh….Isn’t Barack one of the few “who made it”? He’s the biggest salesman out there selling this notion you speak of.

  101. 4evaRaider Says:

    We are divided because it is no longer Of The People,For The People.

    Class warfare in our time!

  102. neilb Says:

    Obama and health care ?

    I was at my doctors this morning,She said I was obsessed with revenge and retribution.

    We’ll see ’bout that I thought….

  103. RaiderRockstar Says:

    they might as well have invited Ryan Succop to the Pro Bowl …

  104. hwnrdr Says:

    Yeah, that was MR’s bad last night it looked like…he did answer questions which he could not think of a good answer with George W Bush…
    Rockstar…my thoughts exactly…I wouldn’t have known who the heck that was…

  105. vegas raider Says:

    Where are people getting the Senior Bowl reports from?

    You have to be an “insider” on ESPN to get most of the stuff. Does anyone know how my boy Javier Arenas has looked?

  106. 4evaRaider Says:

    America….

    A place where lying,cheating and enriching oneself at the expence of others….

    WallStreet gambles AND LOSES and gets “government” bail-outs to continue their extravagant lifestyle….

    Meanwhile on Main Street friends,family and neighbors are losing there houses.Ours wasnt extravagant to begin with but we dont even get to keep any lifestyle….the middle class is GONE….

  107. hwnrdr Says:

    Ouch 4eva…Too real this morning…
    I agee with you…the middle class is gone!!!

  108. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    REGGIE KINLAW, NOW THERE WAS A NOSE-TACKLE..

  109. neilb Says:

    4eva…

    Sounds a lot like this side of the pond.

  110. 4evaRaider Says:

    Neilb…. revenge and retribution leads to more revenge and retribution ;]….So lets get started then,shall we!

  111. hwnrdr Says:

    Ok…got a question for you guys…
    Who would be on your all Raider Team, from any year?

  112. vegas raider Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    January 28th, 2010 at 6:26 am

    WallStreet gambles AND LOSES and gets “government” bail-outs to continue their extravagant lifestyle…

    **************************************

    I agree 100%!! But W passed the first bill with a Dem house and Senate and BO just continued with it, and Tim Geitner was exposed and grilled yesterday, by Democrats, to have arranged some backdoor deals with AIG.

    90% of all politicians cater to the large businesses. They won’t bite the hands that feed them.

    OK…I’m done know.

  113. neilb Says:

    Didn’t Howie Long say that Reggie had the biggest ass he’d ever seen ?

  114. RaiderRockstar Says:

    my boss is leaving the company. I have the least amount of seniority here, so I probably won’t get her job. she had me on the fast track to a management position with another 2 years training/experience

    hope whoever replaces her thinks as highly of me.

    I’m pretty well liked by the President, VP & OE here, but none of them see what I do on a daily basis …

    this sucks!

  115. neilb Says:

    4eva…

    I’m trying my best to keep calm….

  116. 4evaRaider Says:

    No that was Queen LaTifa lol

  117. bcz24 Says:

    Rome is burning folks and we are all just skirting the flames. I was reading some of the health care post and there is one I simply can not ignore. Norco – you have actually said the most ignorant thing I have EVER read in here. You dont want health insurance? Have you EVER seen a real hospital bill? I was hospitalized briefly in December (13 days) and I have Health Insurance because I do have a good job and have worked my way to a management position. I got the hospital bill from my insurance company which showed the entire bill, and the portion I was required to pay. That bill was over $22,000.00… for 13 days. Tell me sir, how would ANYONE be expected to pay such an exorbitant bill without insurance. What if you come down with cancer and your hospitalized for 7-8 months… Dont get all preachy and say stupid things when you simply dont know the facts.

  118. RaiderRockstar Says:

    No that was Queen LaTifa

    ***

    or Jennifer Lopez …

  119. Nnamdi21 Says:

    I wonder if Hue will get to decide starting roster? “Bey, you’re benched.” “Walker *gulp* You’re in.”

    “Bush?” “You’re in.”

    “Fargas?” You’re out.”

    “Cornell Green?” “What the f**k are you doing here?!!”

  120. bcz24 Says:

    FairTax.org The one singular answer to fix this country, and it will never EVER pass because it will be the single largest shift in the balance of power from government to citizen in this nations history. America has gotten this bad because we were all lured into apathy and complacency. We never “fix” anything… we b!tch about it long enough for it to become socially acceptable and move on to the next big “cause”… Welcome to the 3rd world my friends.

  121. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    REVELUTION !!!

  122. hwnrdr Says:

    No that was Queen LaTifa

    ***

    No…that was Tommy Kelley

  123. Nnamdi21 Says:

    117. Health care is already broken. It needs fixed but I certainly don’t want REPUBLICANS in charge of wether or not a loved one gets treatment or not!!!

    There are just enough brain washed, unthinking zombies to vote these ultra rich monsters back into power.

    BTW, go Raiders!

    Sea bass had a good year. Too bad our O couldn’t have given him more opportunities to win for us.

  124. Nnamdi21 Says:

    120. Yup.

  125. Midwest Fan Says:

    Vegas – I’ve been going to national football post. They’ve had some coverage of how certain players looked but not all. Not sure about arenas

  126. neilb Says:

    I’ll use myself as an example.

    Went to the doctors today.Didn’t pay to see her but paid for the meds I’m taking.If I was under 16,retired or un-employed I’d get them for free.

    If I needed an emergency op I would be in straight away,if it wasn’t urgent I’d be put on a waiting list.

    Through work I’ve got a private health scheme and my taxes are slightly higher because of that.

    The National Health service in England isn’t perfect but it’s better than being on your own.

  127. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Heres the reason Cable favored Fargas.

    The guy runs hard as he f’ing can every time he gets the ball. Never mind the poor field vision, the upright style, the big hits, the guy hits it full force EVERYTIME on AND off the field.

    If every Raider played that way this team would win.

    Need some azz kicker to come in here and hold everyone accountable ala Ray Ray Raven.

    Coach can’t cuz Davis nueters him. Can’t threaten some slackers job if he’s on Davis’s list.

    Need a guy who every one respects and fears a little.

    I’m diggin Seymour. Not the most vocal guy, but he drew alot of personal fouls and I think they were good for morale.
    Fug the competition, fug the refs. You’re going home hurting tonight…
    Need more of that intimidation…

  128. Nnamdi21 Says:

    126. Thanks Neil. Good to hear from someone who’s under a national plan.

  129. Midwest Fan Says:

    All I can say is if national health care is passed, good luck getting in to see a doctor for anything that is not immediately life threatening. There’s going to be A LOT less doctors out there b/c of this bill. I work in insurance and I see what doctors get paid by the government health programs. If it all goes that direction doctors won’t be able to pay for their extremely high Medical Malpractice insurance.

  130. Midwest Fan Says:

    I bet overseas they don’t have the litigation that we have over here. Let me know if I’m wrong on that.

  131. hwnrdr Says:

    Or…if you have Kaiser…good luck seeing a doctor, period! That advice nurse should know when to be quiet and get that person in to see a doctor if that is what’s requested!

  132. neilb Says:

    “Medical Malpractice insurance”…. the blame culture…if there’s blame then there’s a claim.

    Once we’ve finished hanging all the politicans,the lawyers are next….

  133. bcz24 Says:

    Like I said… we will complain just long enough for it to become socially accepted.

    TRADE DMAC FOR A WORKING GOVERNMENT!

  134. neilb Says:

    Midwest Fan…

    It’s moving that way.

  135. RaiderRockstar Says:

    quick question…

    if we trade Russell, McFadden & Heyward-Bey to China, would we owe them more or less money than we already do now ???

  136. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the government making health care decisions for you is like Al Davis making draft decisions for every NFL team

    we can expect those type of results IMO …

  137. hwnrdr Says:

    Since China is the biggest market for pirated stuff…and they ran Microsoft out of there…probably more money, and then those 3 would have copies of themselves and the originals will be back in the US, homeless!

  138. Midwest Fan Says:

    I agree to some extent doctors who screw up bad should have to pay (through MM ins) but when you see people making 10’s of millions for a minor mistake – there’s something wrong with the system. Other times it’s just unavoidable, doctors will make mistakes – it happens – just get over it. I have personal reasons to see high damage awards go to people but I also see the need to cap them as well.

    The next step (already occurring – see Kaiser perm) is to practice safe medicine. Don’t do anything agressive b/c you might get sued.

  139. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Dan Carpenter!

  140. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    CHINA WOULD WANT AS PLAYER TO B NAMED LATER , ROCKSTAR, AND MAYBE AN EXTRA CASE OF SKITTLE’S.

  141. neilb Says:

    Just my view…

    It’s not how much is spent…it’s who it’s spent on.

    Friend of my mothers died last year because the cancer treatment was to expensive…..and this was some one who’d worked all her adult life,i.e.paid her taxes.

    Just befor Christmas there was a story in the national papers about some fat man who was too big to get out of bed,who’d never worked,had a private nurse,a computer and spent more on food in one day than I do in a week.And the tax players were picking up the bill.

    That’s what wrong with our National Health service.

  142. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    January 28th, 2010 at 7:00 am
    the government making health care decisions for you…

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Yeah, sorta like our social!st Fire Department, VA System, and Postal Service. I really hate all the decisions THEY make for me…

  143. vegas raider Says:

    No system is perfect, but I would rather try to fix our current system, what was supposed to happen all along, rather than blow it all up and start over, with these clowns in Washington making all the decisions.

    You telling me you want to put in Harry Reid, Mitch McConnell, Chris Dodd and John Boehner in a room and have them create health care for this country? I wouldn’t trust those guys with the decision as for what’s for breakfast.

  144. RaiderRockstar Says:

    CHINA WOULD WANT AS PLAYER TO B NAMED LATER , ROCKSTAR, AND MAYBE AN EXTRA CASE OF SKITTLE’S.

    ***

    Dirt Lot,

    does China covet speed?

    we have many track stars to choose from!

  145. RaiderRockstar Says:

    BSJ:

    you were a chef in the air force during grenada.

    I’m sure you know more about government than we do.

    please fill us in!

  146. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    You telling me you want to put in Harry Reid, Mitch McConnell, Chris Dodd and John Boehner in a room and have them create health care for this country?

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    This is misinformation. Health insurers, doctors and patients will still (and always) be making decisions on care. It is just a better deal for the neediest 50 million Americans and the most ill, which is why the Repubs want to kill it. The only compassion they have is for the rich.

  147. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    January 28th, 2010 at 7:12 am
    BSJ:

    you were a chef in the air force during grenada.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Where did this idea come from?

  148. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    I served in the USMC, but never in conflict (not like Grenada was much of a conflict).

    It would have been cool to be an extra in Heartbreak Ridge though.

  149. RaiderRockstar Says:

    bsj,

    I’m just kiddin…

    trade the walrus for a chef!

  150. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Gunny Highway!

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-V20H8ldO-A/Sx8fCC6VeZI/AAAAAAAAAJs/l3ZSAlyOWu4/s400/gunny+highway.jpg

  151. neilb Says:

    Trade Dmac for a marine!

  152. neilb Says:

    DAMN IT!!!

  153. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Neil, you gotta get up pretty early…

  154. RaiderRockstar Says:

    trade the walrus for a jarhead at head coach!

  155. vegas raider Says:

    How is it a better deal?

    I work for a Medicare Advantage company, one that is growing and has created jobs. About 30% of this countries seniors on Medicare, have an advantage plan, and most are very happy (you can have PPO and HMO advantage plans).

    And this current bill is going to cut funding for Medicare Advantage plans. Why? They don’t give seniors a COLA increase this year on social security, increase the Part B premium for medicare, and now plan on cutting funding for Medicare plans.

    Sounds like they are sticking it to our most needy and deserving. Our seniors and the baby-boomers who are phasing into medicare these days.

  156. neilb Says:

    One day Bo…….one day……

  157. La Milicia Negra Says:

    neil still there

  158. RaiderRockstar Says:

    later gents. gotta meeting

  159. hwnrdr Says:

    Get R.Lee Ermey to be our Head Coach! Can just hear him yelling at JaMarcus: “What is your major malfunction you num nuts?”

  160. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Vegas, the plan I hear about expands Medicare to more people (higher eligibility), which is the opposite of sticking it to the needy. It also gives some (hopefully all) states more money for their own programs to provide care to the needy.

    Not sure how it effects your company/sector though.

    Also, there was no cost-of-living adjustment for Social Security recipients this year because federal law dictates that changes in the consumer price index will determine whether, and to what extent, an annual increase in Social Security is authorized. Politicians do not vote (in fact, they have absolutely no say) on the Social Security COLA and unless the law is changed they never will. That’s another good thing.

  161. neilb Says:

    Afternoon LMN,what’s up ?

  162. El Tato Says:

    # vegas raider Says:
    January 28th, 2010 at 6:24 am

    Where are people getting the Senior Bowl reports from?

    You have to be an “insider” on ESPN to get most of the stuff. Does anyone know how my boy Javier Arenas has looked?
    ———————————————–

    Go to nfldraftcountdown.com

    From Monday report:

    • “Alabama CB Javier Arenas isn’t real big but he is awfully feisty and physical.”

    I cant find much more of him in the reports

  163. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    January 28th, 2010 at 7:28 am
    Get R.Lee Ermey to be our Head Coach! Can just hear him yelling at JaMarcus: “What is your major malfunction you num nuts?”

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    LOL. I have been doing my Ermey impression during games for several years now, to no effect. Man I miss my old DIs. They were hilarious.

  164. neilb Says:

    R.Lee Ermey to JaMarcus “Is this your jelly donut ?”

  165. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Neil…

    not much… we(Brøndby) just sold a striker to Celtic, and leased a defender for 18month from burnley…

    at least the raiders got Hue and waufle…

  166. neilb Says:

    LMN…

    Saw that on sky sports news.Taking a step down to go to Celtic isn’t he ?

  167. hwnrdr Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    January 28th, 2010 at 7:34 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    January 28th, 2010 at 7:28 am
    Get R.Lee Ermey to be our Head Coach! Can just hear him yelling at JaMarcus: “What is your major malfunction you num nuts?”

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    LOL. I have been doing my Ermey impression during games for several years now, to no effect. Man I miss my old DIs. They were hilarious.

    They were back in the day. I mean…I hear these days, the DIs cannot even REALLY yell at the recruits anymore.

    neilb Says:
    January 28th, 2010 at 7:34 am
    R.Lee Ermey to JaMarcus “Is this your jelly donut ?”

    LMAO…then he makes him sit on the bench and suck his thumb!

  168. neilb Says:

    …..and Burnley have got a new manager so that defender could be fine.

  169. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    neilb Says:
    January 28th, 2010 at 7:34 am
    R.Lee Ermey to JaMarcus “Is this your jelly donut ?”

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Contrast to Lance, who reminded me of Neidermeier from Animal House. A PPPLEDGE PIN!?!?!! ON YOUR UNIFORM?!?

  170. hwnrdr Says:

    Only the boot camp scene in “Full Metal Jacket” (and maybe the first scene after with the ‘me so horny’ hooker) I watch. I usually turn off the tv or change the channel after that…
    “Private Pyle!!!!”

  171. La Milicia Negra Says:

    BSJ…

    I guess we all have been saying this for a few years now?

    LOL

    http://www.rleeermey.com/sounds/fmjwhat.wav

  172. hwnrdr Says:

    Contrast to Lance, who reminded me of Neidermeier from Animal House. A PPPLEDGE PIN!?!?!! ON YOUR UNIFORM?!?

    LMAO!!!! Lance does look like Neidermeier, doesn’t he?

  173. neilb Says:

    …….Niedermeier,he’s a dead man!!

  174. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    I hear these days, the DIs cannot even REALLY yell at the recruits anymore.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    I suspect they still can abuse them, especially since we are at war x 2. When I was in boot we bombed Libya and our DIs told us we were absolutely going straight to war. Things tightened up QUICK. We all suffered.

    I just can’t beleive my four DIs were in their mid-20s.

  175. mack-madden Says:

    No more political talk please.

    Trade DMAC for a raiders blog that talks football

  176. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Very nice LMN.

  177. hwnrdr Says:

    Yeah, I guess so, Bo. I’m just laughing because that scene from Stripes just ran through my mind…
    “Where’s your drill seargent?”
    “Blllooown up, sir!”…”Blown up, sir!”

  178. vegas raider Says:

    My boy Arenas, “feisty and physical”. Wait till the actual game and he houses a kickoff.

  179. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Gilbert Arenas!

  180. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # neilb Says:
    January 28th, 2010 at 7:38 am

    LMN…

    Saw that on sky sports news.Taking a step down to go to Celtic isn’t he ?
    ______________________________________________________

    nah a tiny step up, but it leaves us with only 2 strikers, no-one of his caliber.. I wish him the best.. and Remco Van der schaaf was with us for 6month last spring, he was pretty good.. its just that we havent got any mdfielders and a substitution for Duncan…

  181. La Milicia Negra Says:

    “Duncan” being Morten Rasmussen

  182. bcz24 Says:

    Trade DMAC for Gilbert Godfrey

  183. neilb Says:

    Don’t worry LMN,there’s still 4 days left before the window closes.

  184. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # mack-madden Says:
    January 28th, 2010 at 7:45 am

    No more political talk please.

    Trade DMAC for a raiders blog that talks football
    ______________________________________________________

    Sorry, some soccer wile seave through =)

  185. neilb Says:

    Trade Dmac for “Duncan”

  186. hwnrdr Says:

    Have a good day, fellas!!!

  187. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for wile seave!

  188. vegas raider Says:

    BSJ,

    We will have plenty of time to discuss healthcare in the future. They ain’t passing anything anytime soon.

    Got a legit one for you:

    Trade DMAC and our NE 3rd rounder, back to New England for their 1st rounder.

    What say you?

  189. neilb Says:

    I’m out too.

    Have a great Thursday everyone.

  190. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC and our NE 3rd rounder, back to New England for their 1st rounder.

    What say you?

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    I’d be ecstatic. However Al is much better with the midround picks…

  191. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # neilb Says:
    January 28th, 2010 at 7:51 am

    Don’t worry LMN,there’s still 4 days left before the window closes.
    ______________________________________________________

    yeah i knwo, problem is that our organization has become more dysfunctional than the raiders… the big man, hired his son as chief of sports-business, fired our GM, the new GM fired the son and it just got more ugly when it got out in the open that the son had been in on the deal with “duncan”….

    Faaawk, I really can pick those stupid teams, but hey, they all 3 was great in the old days LOL

  192. 4evaRaider Says:

    So whats up with health-care?

  193. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    January 28th, 2010 at 8:00 am
    So whats up with health-care?

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Gallery’s back is getting stronger, Nick Miller is ready to go, and Gradkowski is rehabbing well.

  194. bcz24 Says:

    Gallery’s back is getting stronger, Nick Miller is ready to go, and Gradkowski is rehabbing well.

    LIES AND PROPAGANDA! Nick Miller will begin returning kickoffs in week 19 of the 2014 season. Gradkowski suffered “setbacks” in rehab due to Jamarshmallow being on the roster, and Gallery… well that part may be true.

  195. r8eray Says:

    What a beautiful morning, here in Las Vegas!!
    Good Morning Raider Nation!

  196. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    RIP Zelda Rubinstein

    http://www.dlisted.com/files/zeldapoltergeist.jpg

  197. r8eray Says:

    Where is this statement everyone is talking about?

    ____________________________________________________

    Gallery’s back is getting stronger, Nick Miller is ready to go, and Gradkowski is rehabbing well.

  198. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    It was a play on the health care question Ray. Wanted to avoid more politics, as requested.

  199. SouthernStyle Says:

    I’m not jumping on the Cody bandwagon, unless he’s available in the later rounds. He makes me nervous being picked too high. I’m afraid he’ll turnout like Turdell Sands.

  200. mack-madden Says:

    LMN.

    Not the football I was looking for.

    But atleast it involves a foot n a ball.

    Much better than foot-in-mouth talk earlier

    have a great day people.

    Play nice

  201. 4evaRaider Says:

    What type of plan does Cody have? He need one lol!

  202. vegas raider Says:

    We should learn our lessons from last years fat azz from Alabama, Andre Smith.

    He was way out of shape after the year, still got drafted #6 by the Bengals, held out forever, showed up to camp out of shape, was injured within a week or two and rarely every played.

    So much boom or bust drafting a 360lb 21 year old. I would rather wait and see how they shake out, and pick up your majority of fat guys via Free Agency.

  203. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Mack…

    LOL, fair enough, I get it, I think we are done now =)

  204. 4evaRaider Says:

    not no but HELL NO TO CODY

  205. DMAC Says:

    Morning Nation.
    (You guys better trade me for something good today.)

  206. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for a veteran fat guy!

  207. 4evaRaider Says:

    LOL

  208. bcz24 Says:

    Trade DMAC (the running back) for DMAC (the blogger)

  209. DMAC Says:

    Think about it fellas. Cody could be the next Turd Sands superstar!

  210. DMAC Says:

    Hell yeah!

  211. vegas raider Says:

    If you are going to take a DT early, I prefer the Haloti Ngata, Cortez Kennedy, Russell Maryland type (all early 1st rounders) who are more athletic. I’ll pass on the Gerard Warren, Big Daddy Wilkinson syle top picks.

    I think Gerald McCoy fits the profile. He is going to be a stud.

  212. ColoradoRaiderFan Says:

    Wait a minute, did someone just offer to trade DMAC for me?

  213. Charlie Says:

    Vegas

    With very few exceptions free agents NEVER justify their big contracts.
    Agreed on Smith as being a bad pick. That was known long before the draft.
    The point is you need to build a team primarily through the draft with a few reasonably priced free agents sprinkled in.

    For every Rich Gannon you get 99 Javon Walkers.
    Free agency is a very low percentage play.

  214. Raider O Says:

    O Mock Draft 3.0:

    1- LB McClain
    2- DT T Cody or J Odrick
    3- OT Jared Vladheer
    3- DE Austen Lane ( move Seymour inside next to Cody)
    4- LB Micah Jonson ( he can play SLB and McClain at ILB)
    5- CB Walter Thurmond
    5- KR/ PR Leroy Vann ( has 5 TDs on returns this year)
    7- OG Cord Howard

  215. 4evaRaider Says:

    that would be sweet if McCoy fell 2 us

  216. Raider O Says:

    Chris,

    Ellis, Danny C, Jerry Rice, Rod woodson, eric Allen, etc… You can get FAs that can contribute to your team, but you have to find people who love playing the game, and not the ones looking for that huge payday!

  217. Raider O Says:

    Chris,

    Also try to avoid the 1st wave of FAs. Teams compete for them, and they end up getting huge $$. Wilson, Albert H, etc..

  218. bcz24 Says:

    or have an excellent coaching staff that can get the most out of the FA’s… see Randy Moss in NE.

  219. SouthernStyle Says:

    I would love to pick up a stud DT and have “Money” Warren for a back up. He needs a new nickname now, change it to “Pocket Change”.

  220. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    There is also a danger of overpaying for your own team’s available free agents. Case in point: Tim Brown, when he wanted to play for the Broncos.

  221. The Big Banana Says:

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    January 28th, 2010 at 9:23 am

    There is also a danger of overpaying for your own team’s available free agents. Case in point: Tim Brown, when he wanted to play for the Broncos.
    ==================================================
    Tommy Kelly

  222. DMAC Says:

    Super Bowl performances………
    Larry Brown!!!!!!!!!!!!

  223. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    January 28th, 2010 at 9:21 am
    or have an excellent coaching staff that can get the most out of the FA’s… see Randy Moss in NE.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Not in 2009. He quit on them too.

  224. Raider O Says:

    We should keep TK and Warren, and only if he restructures.

    With no cap next year, it’s a great time to clean up.

    Cut:

    WR Walker
    DT Warren
    OG Cooper
    RB Fargas
    LB/ ST player EUK who makes 1.5 mil to ONLY play STs!!!!

    That’s about 20 mil in savings in salaries, and spend it on a great FA!

  225. The Big Banana Says:

    # DMAC Says:
    January 28th, 2010 at 9:26 am

    Super Bowl performances………
    Larry Brown!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ================================================
    Desmond Howard

  226. vegas raider Says:

    Charlie Says:
    January 28th, 2010 at 9:04 am

    Free agency is a very low percentage play.

    *************************************

    Unfortunately, so are our 1st round picks, lol

    I never like the idea of the most costly FA pick, but you can get solid vets through FA, who can play right away. The Raiders can’t develop anything anyway, that’s why our top picks have been such a disaster.

  227. Raider O Says:

    *Keep TK and CUT Warren.

  228. vegas raider Says:

    A restructured TK with some better talent around him, and hopefully a better offense, isn’t bad.

    I am convinced Kelly would get playing time on any D-line in the league. I blame Warren, the LB’s and our pathetic offense for our struggles against the run THIS YEAR.

  229. Raider O Says:

    Bring back:

    TW
    Dell
    Len
    R8p
    OAKlifer
    AZ
    Raccoon

  230. vegas raider Says:

    Tommy Kelly isn’t great, I don’t want to give that impression.

    But if TK is your 2nd best DT, and you have some skilled physical LB’s, and Seymour on the end, that D can stop the run. Maybe not best in the league, but it definately wouldn’t be worst.

  231. DMAC Says:

    For those of you interested in the senior bowl practices.
    http://www.battleredblog.com/2010/1/27/1273472/2010-senior-bowl-practice-report

  232. The Big Banana Says:

    Kurt Warner addressing his future on Friday. Not that it matters to us Raider fans but just an example of how a classy vet handles things. Something that is completely foreign to Favre, the drama queen.

  233. Raider O Says:

    Seymour is not a 4-3 DE, and we shouldvplsy him at DT. As a RDE he only had 4 sacks! You need more production out of your RDE than 4 sacks.

  234. DMAC Says:

    Stuff him in the middle and find more playing time for Shaunessy.

  235. Lynn from Snot Says:

    fortify the defense in the middle ….. MLB and a run stuffing tackle.

  236. SouthernStyle Says:

    We have a DT that runs hot and cold like Warren. If we had someone to attract more blockers and be more of a threat, then Seymore’s game would elevate imo.

  237. Charlie Says:

    Vegas

    The cold hard reality is that we have tried to build our lines with cast offs and free agents for the past several years and it has not worked.
    Barnes,Green,Carlisle,Warren,Kelly,Burgess,Sands,Harriswere all unwanted elsewhere or deemed as major projects.
    It has not worked here and will never work anywhere.

    You need to draft your core and then maybe pay for a Hutchinson proven probowl type.

    Like I said earlier, for every Rich Gannon “find” you get 99 Javon Walkers.
    Free agency is a low percentage play because they represent poor value. Very little production RELATIVE to salary.
    We will not go down that path again.

  238. Charlie Says:

    Draft priorities should be OT, DT and Guard in that order.
    Running the ball on offense keeps your defense off the field.

    Warren is gone.
    TK with a restructured deal would be servicable.
    Linebacker can not be properly evaluated until the Dline is addressed.

    JR restuctures or he is gone.

    JR,Warren and Kelly represent the poorest remaining values on the team and they will be addressed this offseason.

    Jackson’s hire has nothing to do with JR.
    Tollner and Hackett have had too much success in the league to think coaching was a problem.
    Mr Davis agreed to the benching last season as step one to restructure JR’s salary.
    If he does not go along he will be gone.

  239. DMAC Says:

    Linebacker can not be properly evaluated until the Dline is addressed.
    ==============================================
    I’m not sure about this one. Wacthed all games this past season and I don’t recall seeing Capt. Kirk shed a blocker and make a tackle. I did see a lot of wrong angles though.

  240. DMAC Says:

    watched

  241. Midwest Fan Says:

    JR said this season he has a contract and is not looking to restructure. Hopefully his agent can knock some sense into him and make him realize his true value on the open market. If not for the Raiders, he’d probably be out on the street or making the minimum.

    I’m sure some team would gamble on him for a low enough #.

  242. vegas raider Says:

    Charlie,

    I want to do what the Colts do.

    #1 overall at QB, two 1st rounders at RB, a 1st rounder at WR (Wayne), and a 1st rounder at TE.

    Their O-line? Undrafted C and LG, 6th round pick at LT.

    We need to improve the O-line and LB’s. Maybe 2nd round pick at RT or G. LB in the first.

    We have drafted Grove, Gallery, Henderson, Stinchcomb, Mo Collins in the first or second round in the last 10 years. We have tried both through the draft and FA. Either way really hasn’t worked.

  243. vegas raider Says:

    Colts do have a 2nd rounder at RT.

    That seems to be golden these days, RT’s in round 2. I wouldn’t mind going that route.

  244. vegas raider Says:

    Meanwhile the Jets fortified there O-line with one 1st rounder at LT, and 3 former first-rounders they picked up in FA, some more expensive (Faneca) than others (Woody).

    You need a combination of both, draft and FA. If you rely on one or the other, you will get burned.

  245. Midwest Fan Says:

    I kinda like Pouncey out of Fla in the 2nd.

    “Once Pouncey locks onto a defender, it’s over. He has great drive and tenacity. He moves his feet well and keeps a solid base underneath him.”

    Get the RT with one of our 3rd’s. Also like Selvish Capers out of WVU at the tackle spot. Suppose to be suited for the zone blocking scheme.

  246. Teabag Says:

    Ciron Black in the 2nd

  247. vegas raider Says:

    Everybody says it is a big difference for having to be under center now, instead of the shotgun, for Tim Tebow.

    Does it make a difference to the Florida center as well? I wouldn’t know, but you would think it would make some type of difference.

    The Pouncey twin in this draft is the C right?

  248. Charlie Says:

    Vegas

    The Colts are the one team that do not represent reality.
    Peyton Manning can do in two seconds what the rest of the NFL needs three to do.

    The draft is about percentages.

    The Raiders have invested their first two picks in lineman since 2000 at a rate LOWER than ANY TIME IN THEIR HISTORY.
    OUR RECORD SINCE 2003 REFLECT THAT DEFICIENCY.
    Moss and Collins left and went to the playoffs with different teams because of a better supporting cast that starts with the Oline.

    Yes, you can draft a Hall of Fame talent in round seven.
    The odds are better finding Pro bowl talent in rounds one and two.

    Everything starts at the line of scrimmage and we have ignored those units in the draft for too long.

  249. Midwest Fan Says:

    Yeah, he’s the center. Never thought about it that way, he’s ranked highly so I don’t think it would be that much of an issue.

  250. SouthernStyle Says:

    I think CJ Spiller is gonna be a great pick. A burner at rb and kick returns. Have him rotate in with a big bruising back and keep that D on their toes.

  251. Charlie Says:

    Nine out of your starting twenty two are lineman.
    The draft should reflect that percentage in terms of first and second round picks.

    By the way Henderson was a third rounder.

    If you can find a Lincoln Kennedy or a Faneca get him.

    Those type of players generally are not available and they are effective only when joining a solid core unit.
    We do not have a young solid core. You get that in the draft.

  252. bcz24 Says:

    Yeah Peyton Manning is a freak… just look at the number of sacks vs the number of passes in his career. Its because of his quick release and the timing patterns they run. His ability to disect a defense is uncanny. That dont know superior lineman for the passing game to be effective, but that does also reflect in their constant sub-par rushing efforts.

  253. Ghost to the Post Says:

    I really like Brian Price out of UCLA. He is a high motor guy. Put him and Seymour next to each other and let them grow.

  254. Dakota Says:

    zzzzzzzzzz

  255. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Dakota I been meaning to tell you. I love two and half men.

  256. Ghost to the Post Says:

    And I will still argue with you over that fat tub of goo Andre Smith.. Even if he becomes an all pro.

  257. Dakota Says:

    Smith was injured almost all year, but I saw him playing RT against the Jets in the playoffs. The jury is still out on him.

    Passing on Monroe was a major blunder. Monroe started off slow as most rookies do, but by the end of the year he had solidified himself as a starting NFL tackle and certainly would have been a better option for us at RT than was Green.

  258. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Yeah but, we would have had to give him LT money.

  259. DMAC Says:

    I would like to see us resign Langston Walker, to add depth to the O-line.

  260. Richochet Says:

    # The Big Banana Says:
    January 28th, 2010 at 9:49 am

    Kurt Warner addressing his future on Friday. Not that it matters to us Raider fans but just an example of how a classy vet handles things. Something that is completely foreign to Favre, the drama queen.
    =============================
    Would you say the same thing if Warner, after half way through the off-season, at the prospect of being out of a GAME that he loves playing, not for the money, but for the challenge and love of the game, decides he’s not ready to say goodbye to it, forever?

    While it annoys many, one thing that Farve is known for is being a guy who plays football because he just loves playing football.
    Sure there is the money, but there is no one who wants to be on the field more than Farve..guy has taken hits through the years that would retire many, but he still suits up.
    Lots of players have hung on too long..lots have left early, and wish they hadn’t.

    Farve just had one of the best years of his career.
    It’s not like he didn’t perform, and make a difference for his team.

  261. Dakota Says:

    I’d rather give LT money to a RT than give starting WR money to a JOKE.

  262. bcz24 Says:

    Mark it on the calendar… I agree with Richochet! Im stunned…

  263. Richochet Says:

    # Ghost to the Post Says:
    January 28th, 2010 at 11:08 am

    Dakota I been meaning to tell you. I love two and half men.
    ===================
    “half men”?
    They prefer “little people”.

    You love two guys, and one “little people”.

    there..I fixed it for ya :)

  264. Lynn from Snot Says:

    I think we should avoid the draft and get FA players instead of paying rookies guaranteed money for “POTENTIAL”.

  265. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Yeah me too. But, maybe that joke will catch one deep ball and score a TD someday. And we will all jump up and down. Yahoo.. I was more in favor of Crabtree.

  266. Seymour Bush Says:

    The Seymour Bush Mock Draft

    Round 1: Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State. One of the best players in a position of EXTREME need for the Raiders. By taking Okung, we could move Henderson to RT where he would be better suited. Down side: Okung will most likely not be available at #8. Back up plan: Rolando McClain ILB. This guy is a big, fast, blitzing, smart ILB with excellent size. He has a high motor, and is only 20.

    Round 2: Maurkice Pouncey OL florida Pouncey is very versatile and could even play tackle if needed. A 320 lb that runs a 5.1 forty. You don’t see that often. Back Up plan: Could Golden Tate be available at the top of 2nd round? Might solidify both receiving and return issues. And Bye Bye Chokie Lee Higgins.

    Stop here.

  267. vegas raider Says:

    Monroe or Raji should have been the pick last year. We needed a WR, but in hindsight, we could have just accomplished that as we did with Murphy.

    I want to give Mario one more year at LT, he has one year left on his deal, and than if we decide to move on, we can draft a LT in the first round in 2011.

  268. Ghost to the Post Says:

    I agree Lynn. I really liked the trade for Seymour for a first round pick. If we can offer them 2012 first round pick for Wolfork. I am all in. He doesn’t seem to happy with New England.

  269. Dakota Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    January 28th, 2010 at 11:21 am
    The Seymour Bush Mock Draft

    Round 1: Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State. One of the best players in a position of EXTREME need for the Raiders. By taking Okung, we could move Henderson to RT where he would be better suited. Down side: Okung will most likely not be available at #8. Back up plan: Rolando McClain ILB. This guy is a big, fast, blitzing, smart ILB with excellent size. He has a high motor, and is only 20.

    Round 2: Maurkice Pouncey OL florida Pouncey is very versatile and could even play tackle if needed. A 320 lb that runs a 5.1 forty. You don’t see that often. Back Up plan: Could Golden Tate be available at the top of 2nd round? Might solidify both receiving and return issues. And Bye Bye Chokie Lee Higgins.

    Stop here.
    ++++++++++++++++

    Yeah baby! Now we are talkin’! I’d take that draft in a heartbeat…although McClain scares me a little, he looked slow in the title game…

  270. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    January 28th, 2010 at 11:14 am

    Smith was injured almost all year, but I saw him playing RT against the Jets in the playoffs. The jury is still out on him.

    Passing on Monroe was a major blunder. Monroe started off slow as most rookies do, but by the end of the year he had solidified himself as a starting NFL tackle and certainly would have been a better option for us at RT than was Green.
    ====================================================

    The Bungles basically red shirted Andre Smith. that guys is going to be a player for them and as Dakota said, he played late in the season and played well for them. I also have to agree that not taking Eugene Monroe was a MAJOR blunder. Joke-sonville brass was dancing in the streets when he came to them, and they have not been disappointed.

  271. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Unless we have proven we have competent scouts, I would package our high picks for established players and keep finding gems in the lower rounds.

  272. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Yeah ghost,
    There are other ways to build a team besides drafting in the first and second round. Since our luck has been swing and a miss lately.

  273. Charlie Says:

    The two most glaring needs on this team are:

    OT (Green is a backup and may retire given his age)
    DT (Warren is a special teams player making $5 mill year)

    Carlisle will be 33 and struggles with large Dlineman.
    The next need is guard. Hopefully Gallery is OK otherwise Guard becomes a necessity in round three.

  274. bcz24 Says:

    NE’s glaring needs on the DLine are going to make it almost unfathomable for them to let go of Wilfork. HE is a beast at NT. But Belichik has surprised me in the past. I would love to see Wilfork and Seymour reunited on our line!

  275. Ghost to the Post Says:

    I think Asomough is the last good first round pick we made. Maybe Huff… If we could solidify our DL or our OL with a trade instead of a draft pick. I would prefer it. I think Wilfork hears Seymour talking about the palm trees and the great weather. Maybe just maybe we could get him too/

  276. new englandraider Says:

    tmz is reporting that STL RAMS rb stephen jackson severely beat his 9 month old pregnant girlfriend in march 2009. she went to hospital bleeding, and jackson made her tell hosp staff that she had fallen in shower

  277. inonewordraider Says:

    Still possible Al drafts a QB in round 1. He saw Favre, Brees, Manning, and Sanchez as the last qb’s standing and he brought in the guy credited for the development of Flaaco. He may beleive (not far fetched) Bruce or Jamarcus won’t materialize into such a qb

  278. jmeds Says:

    Jano is getting the shaft with no grease!

  279. uberVU - social comments Says:

    Social comments and analytics for this post…

    This post was mentioned on Twitter by RAIDERSRSS: IBA: Good news for Lechler, not for Seabass http://bit.ly/b7FNgJ…

Leave a Reply

You must be logged in to post a comment.