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Asomugha on Cable, JaMarcus

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, January 29th, 2010 at 3:25 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders coach Tom Cable told KHTK (1140-AM) radio he expects to be coaching the Raiders in 2010, but apparently no one has gotten word to his players.

It sounds as if ESPN’s Adam Schefter and Cable himself are the only two people who are certain the Raiders won’t be changing the head coach. The Raiders say the evaluation process regarding Cable is ongoing.

Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, in an interview at the Pro Bowl on the NFL Network with Rich Eisen, Deion Sanders and Michael Irvin, was asked if there was uncertainty about the head coach and responded, “I think he’s back, they’re probably still going over stuff, but if he is the guy, me, just like the the other players, you would like to hear that.”

Asomugha said he “absolutely” wanted Cable to return because “we can’t keep starting over. Five coaches in seven years, that’s tough.”

Asomugha received some pointed questions about JaMarcus Russell and expressed hope the quarterback would be more prepared this season, while essentially conceding Russell will remain the starter.

“I think he can be the guy. I don’t think he was ready for what we went through last year, I think he needed to be a little more prepared, going into each game, going into the season, and I think he has that opportunity this offseason.

“It’s got to be big for him. He knows that too. He has to understand that we’re going to go as far as he takes us. He’s the quarterback of the team.”

Irvin asked Asomugha if Russell’s lack of preparedness was because of Russell himself or the coaching staff.

“Look, we’ve all played the game. You can have all the intangibles, but unless you put in the work yourself . . . look, I came into the league as a safety and I had to move to man corner,” Asomugha said. “Mentally, you’ve got to do it yourself. A lot of it’s going to be on you and I think he’s getting to the level that he realizes that.

“It was tough for him last year. It wasn’t easy going into games getting booed by your own people. That’s tough.”

Sanders managed to get in a dig right early in the interview session after Eisen opened by asking Asomugha about his acting career and role in “Friday Night Lights.”

“You’ve been acting well the last several years in Oakland (like) you want to be there.”

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  1. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    …and it wasn’t too long ago (2001-2002) when deion wanted to be here.

  2. Mistabr0wn Says:

    SnB,
    Davis would have gone after Seymour regardless who he drafted.

  3. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    damn chargers claimed him to prevent us from getting him.

  4. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Its obvious AL is trying to make life so difficult for Tom he just ups & quits but Tom saw how this played out when Lane refused to go…

    Al either fire the guy or quit trying to force him out. It didnt work with Lane and its not going to work with Tom!

  5. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    nnamdi knows the biz, knows 4 sure jr is starting 4 us next yr.

  6. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    VR,

    When the team is consistently a 30 something ranked run defense year after year after year…when you go through something like 4 QBs in the course of 4 wks due to injury…..You fix the lines and nothing else.

    Let make the lines the priority.

    Spend the lower picks on positions that were supposed to be solved in past drafts

  7. KoolKell Says:

    Maybe the deaths in Russell’s family did set him back mentally? Then again Flacco regressed in his 2nd year too.

  8. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    i agree, BUILD THE LINES IN ‘10!

  9. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Nnamdi all but saying Russell is a lazy sack of dirt.

    Like most of us been saying all along. Sucks to be right so often..

    Russell boot lickers standup & be counted!

  10. El Dirty Says:

    Tuck deon

  11. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    …yeah they say some people eat alot when depressed.

  12. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Or maybe if you read what Nnamdi & 100’s of others have been saying. Russell is a lazy worthless pile of goo..

    KoolKell you have an amazing gift of being able to stick your head in your anus and still breath at the same time.

    ___________________

    # KoolKell Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    Maybe the deaths in Russell’s family did set him back mentally? Then again Flacco regressed in his 2nd year too.

  13. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Mistabr0wn,

    Hey, JaDavis Russell was lazy because of his personality and an organizational culture that enabled it.

    Namely Al Davis and his players 1st mentality

  14. KoolKell Says:

    SnB

    The Raiders have made the lines a priority before with Stinchcomb, Gallery, Grove, Collins.

    The problem is, who’s doing the drafting, and for what scheme?

    Then, drafting LT’s and converting them to RT’s. Drafting RT’d and converting him to LG. Then drafting a LG and converting him to Center, etc, etc ,etc.

  15. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    raideredoutL.A. Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
    i agree, BUILD THE LINES IN ‘10!
    =======================================================
    That’s right. And when we say pick a cornerback or linebacker…and wait..we are really saying that the lines are not the priority.

    Kelly and Warren have to be REPLACED. All 5 OLine positions should be up for grabs.

    Another linebacker won’t stop Warren from getting pushed out of the way….Joe Haden can’t do jack to get Cornell Green to hold his blocks and not jump offsides.

    Of course, I know what Davis will do. He loves the highlight reel

  16. Mistabr0wn Says:

    SnB,

    He’s lazy because of his personality?

    Where did you get your psychology degree Walmart?

  17. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
    SnB,

    He’s lazy because of his personality?

    Where did you get your psychology degree Walmart?
    =======================================================
    EVen on a Friday afternoon…you are still an angry man

  18. 4evaRaider Says:

    “Mentally, you’ve got to do it yourself.WORD

  19. Mistabr0wn Says:

    SnB how do you know Im angry ? Can you see my face ?

    lmao

  20. Mistabr0wn Says:

    FYI….KK learned this at the Barbershop.

    # KoolKell Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    SnB

    The Raiders have made the lines a priority before with Stinchcomb, Gallery, Grove, Collins.

    The problem is, who’s doing the drafting, and for what scheme?

    Then, drafting LT’s and converting them to RT’s. Drafting RT’d and converting him to LG. Then drafting a LG and converting him to Center, etc, etc ,etc.

  21. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    KoolKell,

    I know the drafting has been a disaster and will continue to be. However, the Raiders knew Gallery was bust 3 or 4 years ago. Yet ignored the line play.. They knew Cornell Green was a stop gap…yet ignored the line play…they knew that Satele and Carlisle were underpowered…yet ignored the line play.

    Then this ZBS but then bringing in Langston Walker…and switching….

    Yes, the strategy is a mess here in Oakland and will continue to be.

    But I would rather try to get that lineman in the 1st round then another fleet footed specialist that we all complain about later

  22. KoolKell Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    SnB how do you know Im angry ? Can you see my face ?

    lmao
    ——————————————
    Because your conversation is always hostile and angry, moron. :-)

  23. KoolKell Says:

    SnB

    I hear ya, I’m just saying personnell misuse/mismatch with the Raiders doesn’t stop with the skill players.

  24. KoolKell Says:

    Robert Gallery was an All-World LT in College, can’t miss.

    First thing they did was move him to RT.

  25. KoolKell Says:

    Simply drafting lineman, which is a great need of course…….does NOT mean holes will be filled.

  26. Mistabr0wn Says:

    KoolKell do you do anything else with your day other than copy & paste worthless material over & over?

  27. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    KoolKell,

    Yeah, you’re right about GAllery supposedly being can’t miss. Then they moved him and gave him horrible coaching….also had a plyaer in Kevin Boothe…but then they switched the scheme and we were left with Carlisle.

    The Raiders are clueless when drafting high. Hopefully they focus on D-Line/O-Line…because it would at least axcknowledge that there is a problem on the lines…instead of ignoring it and blaming the coaches.

  28. KoolKell Says:

    I’m the big shark, with lots of little pilot fish swimming around me.

  29. Mistabr0wn Says:

    After he failed miserably at LT but who cares about facts?

    # KoolKell Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    Robert Gallery was an All-World LT in College, can’t miss.

    First thing they did was move him to RT.

  30. KoolKell Says:

    SnB

    Gallery probably had 3 different line coaches his first 3 years.

    These are the institutional dysfunctions that can’t be repaired with the drafting of anyone.

  31. KoolKell Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    After he failed miserably at LT but who cares about facts?
    _________________________________________
    Nope, they had a LT when they drafted him.

  32. snnyjcbs Says:

    I watched the whole show on NFL Network and never heard Nnamdi say that Russell is sure to be the starter. That is the problem with you people, you all like to twist a tad here or a tad there to make what people say fit your train of thought on an issue.

    He stated that he thought if Russell put in the time and work needed that Nnamdi felt from what he has seen going against Russell in practice that Russell could become an NFL QB. Now that is a far cry from what you are reporting that he said.

    You should do an article on the low standards of the Bay Area in hiring qualified reporters. The bunch of you are the bottom of the bunch, minus that Poole dude, after the article he did on Jackson not long ago at least he has talent when he decides to get off his $^* and use it.

  33. Seymour Bush Says:

    MistabrOwn you and rich-o-troll are the two most reviled people in here. Why don’t you do something else with your time. Maybe you two could start an a Capella group. It might jump start your otherwise miserable lives.

  34. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Oakglen, you’ve been saying the same thing for over a year now..

    ________

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 4:01 pm

    MistabrOwn you and rich-o-troll are the two most reviled people in here. Why don’t you do something else with your time. Maybe you two could start an a Capella group. It might jump start your otherwise miserable lives.

  35. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Oakglen Bush, ask me how much I care about you or anybody else in here or what they think of me.

    Go ahead..

  36. KoolKell Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    Oakglen Bush, ask me how much I care about you or anybody else in here or what they think of me.
    _______________________________________________
    Don’t give a shyt about you either. Just saying, you do seem miserable. ;-)

  37. Mistabr0wn Says:

    KK, you are answering questions not even directed at you…lol

    Man get a hobby you are here 18 hours a day looking like a pitiful derelict..

  38. Seymour Bush Says:

    The way that oakglen guy dominates this blog even in absentia, the powers that be should call this thing ” Inside the Oakglen Raiders.” As for the rest of you, have a very nice weekend. Peace out. As for mistabrOwn and richotroll, get some mental help.

  39. Mistabr0wn Says:

    KK, keep making assumptions about others on the internet.

    Its physically impossible to be miserable when I’m laughing at you. Just an FYI..

  40. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Ufk Neon Peion.

    He’s always takin’ a smack at the Raiders. Who cares? Raiders have deserved it, but Sanders ugly focus on money and gettin’ bruthas paid is unsavory and unflattering.

    We know its a business Moronica.

    BTW, why’s Froen care where Aso plays? He’s the highest PAID player at his postion EVER. You’d think that would be enuff for Peion. Pretty tired of his washed up shuckin and jivin’ routine.

    Don’te get me started on Irvin. Revisionist history. The A hole squirts a couple tears at his HOF speech and suddenly he wasn’t called the Dallas Coke machine anymore or never tried to stab a team mate in throat with a pair of scisors.

    What evs…

  41. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Have a good time 0akglen, pet your cat and watch Cinemax soft p0rn like you probably do every weekend.

  42. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Now look at Nnamdi, theres a miserable guy If you had to guess. Im pretty sure he isnt laughing while typing like I do.
    :D

  43. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Nnamdi, if you’re still depressed after Barbacks 78 minutes State of the Union speech of lies & falsehoods you can probably get help from some free liberal program, theres 100’s of them out there just burning up our tax dollars..

  44. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Losing Gallery sunk us. The line never really recovered. How could it? Satele couldn’t beat out MORRIS for chrissakes. Had to wait for Gallery’s injury to take back over. Having Cornell Green out didn’t really help or hurt, but he was a starter I guess.

    Line woes helped kill the ground game which exposed the already struggling passing game which was compounded by rookies at WR and at coach.

    Hopefully Russell has refocused and gives us his best next season…

  45. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Russell refocused?

    Wouldn’t you have to focus at least 1 time before to be able to “refocus”?

    FYI…The next time Russell is focused will be the first.

  46. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
    Nnamdi, if you’re still depressed after Barbacks 78 minutes State of the Union speech of lies & falsehoods you can probably get help from some free liberal program, theres 100’s of them out there just burning up our tax dollars..

    ===========================

    “Lies” you say? Ufk all Republican following morons who dismiss reality for their revisionist version of facts.

    Obama’s party didn’t rape our country, steal our freedomes, privacy and compromise our health. REPUBLICANS DID.
    Keep trying to make us forget that by blaming Obamy. All we have to do is look back at the 8 yrs Bush Cheney raped the country for the benefit of only the wealthiest.

    Disgusting…

  47. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    MistabrOwn, you are so pathetic. Everyone on this blog likes me better than you. That is really sad.

  48. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Being focused on mink coats, bling, church’s chicken, and Ho’s doesnt really qualify as “focused” unless your an Acorn worker or a PIMP.

  49. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Nnamdi….lmao ur a complete nutbag!

    haha

  50. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Nnamdi do you live in a hut or a tent ?

    Be honest..

  51. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
    Now look at Nnamdi, theres a miserable guy If you had to guess. Im pretty sure he isnt laughing while typing like I do.

    ==========================

    Eat sh*t and live Brown eye. I’m lovin my life. You can’t imagine…I live in a palce called “reality” where I discern the truth by quantifying from as many diverse sources as possible to conclude by a preponderance of evidence what the most likely truth is.
    You jam your bald craniac up Glen Becks a**hole to have your opinion force fed to ya.

    Trod on blind zombie.

    I’m off to poke smot and ufk my hot wife!

    Peace owt bishes!

    SEEK KNOWLEDGE!!!

  52. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    SO I DID SUM MORE RESEARCH OF WYOMING and how come the only famous people 2 ever be born there were from like the 1800`s ? buffalo bil cody & DICK CHENEY ? HMMM?

  53. Raiders4eve Says:

    Man, I am having second thoughts on McClain after reading scouts report in this site, http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2010rmcclain.php

    They question his playing in 4-3. I think we shouldnt draft this guy knowing this fact matter fact sign and trade for Vince Wilfork he is worth 8th overall pick.

    I am also seeing why some guys in here like Spikes better. This what they are saying about him.

    “He is a very muscular 260 pounds and he is one of the more physical linebackers in the country. When healthy and when his mind is in the right spot, he can toss away blockers with ease. A sure tackler that will bring down any back when he is in position. When approaching a ball carrier with his balance in check, he can deliver quite the blow. Can make the difficult tackle when he isn’t in prime position. Reads the quarterbacks eyes very well and can diagnose throwing lanes before the release. Doesn’t cover a lot of ground and he will gamble, but he has had the knack for coming up with the big play against the pass with six interceptions and four returned for touchdowns over the past two years.”

    The main difference I see between the two is that Spikes fits better in the 4-3 defense we have, if AL is willing to change to the 3-4 then we should draft McClain otherwise Spikes is better option. Besides McClain is known for his rushing the passer, we all know that our MLB needs to be run stopper and play pass coverage in third downs, Spikes has 6 int and reads QB mind. I personally think McClain would be a better pick if we changing the scheme but since we are not trade for Vince Wilfork. Maybe we can get NE 24th overall pick and Vince Wilfork for our 8th overall pick and second round pick.

  54. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    You know who else is pathetic, besides MistabrOwn, the New Orleans Saints. The only reason they are in the Super Bowl is because their defense is a bunch of dirty cheap shot artists. I won’t be surprised if they try and take out Manning’s knees. Also, they had a lot of help from the refs against the Vikings because the league wants a feel good story. It was probably orchestrated by Obama anyway. Because he is black and all.

  55. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Oh wow, yeah Nnamdi is miserable look him coming unglued!

    Nnamdi take a deep breath..1 2 3 4 exhale 1 2 3 4 exhale…U can doit!

  56. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
    MistabrOwn, you are so pathetic. Everyone on this blog likes me better than you. That is really sad

    =======================

    Grudgingly, I have to agree this one time with a Chargers fan…

    Your punishment Brown eye, is BEING YOU.

    “May you live forever…”

  57. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    ok. quick revelation guys,, athletes , especially football players . are stupid!!!

  58. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    u know who is pathetic.? dat bum ladanium tomlinson .. he better not get in the hall of fame. what a bust!

  59. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    Not Rolle from Florida State. He is even smarter than Jerry.

  60. Lynn from Snot Says:

    http://www.tauntr.com/content/nfl-athletic-supporters-san-diego-chargers

  61. Lynn from Snot Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6_JEpMO_MM

  62. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Hey Charged Down for Superbowl Agony, great to see you visiting the blog!

    I’d say I do like you more than most of the other bloggers, if only because you’re a super rocking musician in one of the coolest Blink-182 cover bands in your neighborhood.

    So tell your good friend Beeecham what it was like crying – again – into your official Stan Humphries teddy bear after the Chargers choked away yet another season!

    Did it soak up your tears as good as your official Kellen Winslow back pack?

  63. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    Lynn from Snot, is that supposed to be El Dirty and his girlfriend in that cartoon?

  64. Lynn from Snot Says:

    You got me?

  65. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    Whose Stan Humphries and Kellen Winslow?

  66. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    KoolKell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkeAzqhlkNk

  67. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    Yo I’m out! Gots to go see my girl. She is mad at me right now because of the whole Alyssa Milano thing. She is a bit jealous.

  68. r8eray Says:

    Nnamdi says……while essentially conceding Russell will remain the starter.
    _______________________________________________________

    So what that is telling me is we’re drafting O-line and making some ruckus in free agency!!! oohh yeeaahhh babeee!!

  69. Senior Beeecham Says:

    I hope you enjoy your Sizzler dinner with mom and dad tonight, Charged Down!

  70. KoolKell Says:

    Senior Beeecham Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    I hope you enjoy your Sizzler dinner with mom and dad tonight, Charged Down!
    ————————————————–
    Hope you enjoy being a lonely troll on friday Nite.

  71. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    Back at you dawg: http://www.tauntr.com/content/oakland-logo-redesigned

  72. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    actually dat raider logo redesigned aint so bad, looks cool really. i can see raider fans wearin dat tshirt at games,

  73. 4evaRaider Says:

    lmao@53

  74. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    i know 4eva noone seems to care bout this wyoming conspiracy . but ima find and unveil da truth .

  75. MTraidernation Says:

    MESSAGE TO AL DAVIS: URGENT!!!

    Dr. Mr. Davis,

    It’s impossible to win without a committed, capable quarterback. There are currently none under contract, as of today, on your team’s roster. I’d like to thank AND congratulate you for signing Loseman and Gradkowski. Next step: sign SeaBass and #92. Russell has ALL the talent in the world and refuses to use them(or, he can’t). Either way, sadly disappointing so far.

    Sincerely,
    Every potato-eating, beer-drinkin, cowboy-hippie, Montanan that loves the fact that the best players on your team are two Po-locks, a german guy, and a black dude from Berkeley. Totally awesome.

    ps…and they ALL answer to the “Man upstairs”.

    (that’s you)

  76. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Krappy, if I tell you do promise not to go around telling everyone that you have the exact same thing?

    Not exactly plagiarism, but I’ve gotta be very careful with you these days!

  77. usmarine338 Says:

    are you friggin kidding? JA-MAN-BOOBS is the biggest joke i’ve ever seen, GRADKOWSKI better start or alot of fans will not go to the games next year, he’s a disgrace(russell) he’s had more than a fair chance to prove it, russell starts it will be another 5-11 season

  78. KoolKell Says:

    Beech

    Do you wait around here all day waiting for me to make an appearance, or are you already here blogging under another name?

  79. raidermarty Says:

    deion is a jackass

  80. Raiders4eve Says:

    Richochet

    Whats up man? I am wondering what you think about the debate earlier in the day regarding who is a better fit between McClain and Spikes, I posted both players scouting report. Just wanna get your input on it since Vegas thinks McClain would be better. Here is my post again.

    Man, I am having second thoughts on McClain after reading scouts report in this site, http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2010rmcclain.php

    They question his playing in 4-3. I think we shouldnt draft this guy knowing this fact matter fact sign and trade for Vince Wilfork he is worth 8th overall pick.

    I am also seeing why some guys in here like Spikes better. This what they are saying about him.

    “He is a very muscular 260 pounds and he is one of the more physical linebackers in the country. When healthy and when his mind is in the right spot, he can toss away blockers with ease. A sure tackler that will bring down any back when he is in position. When approaching a ball carrier with his balance in check, he can deliver quite the blow. Can make the difficult tackle when he isn’t in prime position. Reads the quarterbacks eyes very well and can diagnose throwing lanes before the release. Doesn’t cover a lot of ground and he will gamble, but he has had the knack for coming up with the big play against the pass with six interceptions and four returned for touchdowns over the past two years.”

    The main difference I see between the two is that Spikes fits better in the 4-3 defense we have, if AL is willing to change to the 3-4 then we should draft McClain otherwise Spikes is better option. Besides McClain is known for his rushing the passer, we all know that our MLB needs to be run stopper and play pass coverage in third downs, Spikes has 6 int and reads QB mind. I personally think McClain would be a better pick if we changing the scheme but since we are not trade for Vince Wilfork. Maybe we can get NE 24th overall pick and Vince Wilfork for our 8th overall pick and second round pick.

  81. KoolKell Says:

    Troll Beecham,

    Do you wait around here all day waiting for me to make an appearance, or are you already here blogging under another name?

  82. 4evaRaider Says:

    sometimes

  83. RaiderLen Says:

    4eva,

    McLain and Spikes would both be upgrades at MLB Imo.

    With that said, OL for me would be 1st priority.

    Then a Fat ass in the middle of the D Line.

  84. severeraiderz Says:

    Over the past 3 years McClain has 5 picks, Spikes has just one more.

  85. Raiders4eve Says:

    # RaiderLen Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    4eva,

    McLain and Spikes would both be upgrades at MLB Imo.

    With that said, OL for me would be 1st priority.

    Then a Fat ass in the middle of the D Line.
    ===========================================
    The problem is that if we draft McClain, we have to change to 3-4, do you guys think AL will allow us to change to the 3-4?

  86. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Oh, that’s nice of the blog doormat to attempt to jump into into the fun! So enjoyable when the weak and meek come begging for a little piece of my attention.

    You did very good, little richochet. Here’s the little pat on the head you’ve been looking for and permission to continue posting.

    Hey Krappy, you will address me properly – like you’ve been taught – or I’ll have to send you to your backyard for a proper hosing from the missus.

    It’s MR Troll Beecham. Friends till the End, Krappy!

  87. RaiderLen Says:

    4eva,

    3-4 used in the past. But with the Guys on the roster now…I wouldn’t think so.

    Hell, who knows what Al is thinking.

  88. KoolKell Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    The Gubment can’t run Sheet effieintly.
    —————–
    Runs the Military, they’re pretty good.

    Runs Medicare, that’s pretty good.

    But, that’s not the point. When the economy is stagnant the Gub has to spend money or else everybody goes out of bidness. Of course corruption has to be elimaneted.

    But, I provided that index to illustrate, a great many people around the world are living better than we, for cheaper. Richer, Less Violent, More Educated….etc

  89. severeraiderz Says:

    Raiders4eve

    who says that we have to change to a 3-4, he can play in either system and reported runs in the 4.57 range in his forty so he can get sideline to sideline. He is a student of the game and can learn the new system. Ray Lewis said it was easier for him to playin a 4-3 and he struggled when the Ravens went to a 3-4.

  90. Raiders4eve Says:

    Here this was posted by TrueRaider earlier so I give him the credit.

    # Weaknesses:
    # Unimpressive speed
    # Overpursues against run
    # Questionable 4-3 inside linebacker
    # Average sideline-sideline range
    # Good, but not an exceptional athlete
    # Could be exposed in man scheme
    # Doesn’t have huge upside
    # A little uncomfortable in space

    Summary: I really don’t think McClain is a 4-3 inside linebacker. The speed and lateral range just isn’t there for me, and I think he would be exposed because he will overpursue gaps. McClain is great for 3-4 teams because he can play inside, but also move over to the outside if needed temporarily. His best fits are at 3-4 inside linebacker and 4-3 strongside linebacker. McClain is a solid prospect who will likely come off the board in the top 20 picks.

    http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2010rmcclain.php

  91. RaiderLen Says:

    KK, With all due respect, we have a difference of opinion.

    The Government is not suppososed to be my nanny.

    Leave me alone and I’ll find my own way.

    The founders of our Constitution wanted this.

    I do not want or need a Government sponsored tit.

    By the way, the one thing the Feds are responsible for is the Common Defense of our Country. I’m glad to know they do that One thing well.

  92. Raiders4eve Says:

    severeraiderz

    He played in a 3-4 system, he is only 20 years, it will take him time to learn to play 4-3 system. More important scouts report that he overpurses against the run while playing the 3-4 imagine what would happen to him in 4-3?

    He can’t play man to man defense or I should say he Could be exposed in man scheme, basically it will take him time to learn and become a stud. Remember all the hype about Aaron Curry SLB what did he do last year? nothing. While guys like Cushing and Mauluga been tearing it up. Why cause they played the 4-3 in USC, you draft players that fit your system. Am i right?

  93. severeraiderz Says:

    The Atlanta, Georgia product is well-respected as one of the biggest hitters and most feared defenders at the college level, and why not? McClain stands in at 6′4” and 256 pounds and he reportedly runs a 4.6 in the 40-year-dash. That’s a scary combination of size and speed to say the least. He has had some minor off-the-field problems in the past, but nothing that has developed into a major red flag or any kind of case for real concern. Plus, he is an Honor Roll student in the classroom and has earned rave reviews from Alabama coaches regarding his work at spring practices. Assuming McClain leaves after his junior season, he could find himself in the Top 10 of the draft if he finishes well and produces at the combine.

    From fftoolbox.com

  94. KoolKell Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 6:27 pm

    KK, With all due respect, we have a difference of opinion.

    The Government is not suppososed to be my nanny.

    Leave me alone and I’ll find my own way.

    The founders of our Constitution wanted this.
    —————————
    You are left alone to find your own way. Start any business you want, if we can control the big-corp monopolies.

    If you don’t want any tits it’s up to you. The the country has responsibilities greater than yours alone.

    Lot’s of Nations doing a lot better.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index

  95. KoolKell Says:

    The Government is not suppososed to be my nanny.
    —————————–
    There has to be regulations in any society in order to protect the rights of others.

  96. 4evaRaider Says:

    Good Nite Nation!

  97. severeraiderz Says:

    Lol the very reason we didn’t draft Michael Crabtree or Michael Oher is because they reportedly didn’t fit our system or a player in our “system” was already in their position. All this system stuff is bull because if a player has the tools and the work ethic a new system can be taught. Curry played at wakeforest Mcclain was the best defender on the best defense in the closest conference you can get to the NFL. He plated against much better competition on a national stage weekly. Rey dropped to the second round because people paid so much attention to what he couldn’t do (cover) they forgot what a player he was on that field. Mcclain is the rare blend of ability and intangibles, youre gonna pass that up because he would have to move to a 4-3. Sounds like the people that questioned if Chris Johnson could be an every down back.

  98. RaiderLen Says:

    Kell, I’m not left alone.

    The Gubment says I have to pay money that i’ve earned from the sweat of MY brow, and send it to Washington so that they can pass it along to someone “less fortunate”

    So I’m NOT left alone. BIG BROTHER IS my silent partner.

    I do all the work, and they shake me down by means of tax dollars that are sent to Inefficeint Beauorcrats in Washington.

    By the way I’ve been in Business for 20 Years.

    My standard of living is compromised by ineffectual and bloated Gubment.

    With the discretionary income that I do have, I put it back into MY community through sponsoships and donations.

    Without the BS of Washington, I’d have more to pour into My community.

    Lyndon Johnson and His “Great Society” is an abject failure.

  99. KoolKell Says:

    You have to pay taxes in ANY society, period. The taxes here are low.

    There has to be Gubment to protect the rights of our fellow citizens.

    This is a large and powerful country, with 300,000,000 people.

    The Gubment provides services you take for granted.

    Somalia, has no Gubment, why don’t you move there? ;-)

  100. severeraiderz Says:

    Scouting Report: Each draft there is a linebacker who sets the bar for the rest of the class. McClain is that guy this year, like Aaron Curry was last year, and Patrick Willis before that.  Sort of like Joe Haden, McClain is very clearly the best linebacker in this draft.  McClain is a big thick dude, with a powerful lower body and low body fat.  He has an explosion when he plays, and an intensity that is unrivaled in this class.  There are few flaws to McClains skill set.  He is great at diagnosing the play, getting to it in a hurry whether that means shedding a blocker, working around one, or simply in pursuit.  When he gets to the ball, he usually brings the pain with a devastating paired up with great technique.  He can drop and cover in the short zone, shows solid instincts for the game, and does very well on blitzes and twists.  McClain has been the undisputed leader of the Crimson Tide defense and their defense is very complex highlighting his football IQ.  On the downside, McClain is a Mike linebacker and probably not able to play on the outside citing some lack of versatility.   Also, when you consider that McClain is about 3 biscuits shy of 260lbs, you won’t see him setting any records on his triangle numbers.

    Draft Status: This is a little uncertain, because some think that Missouri LB Sean Weatherspoon or Florida LB Brandon Spikes are better linebackers than McClain, and because they either already to play on the outside, or look to be able to, will be taken ahead of him, and push him to the bottom of the round.  I have a hard time believing that.  McClain could have a huge impact on a defense, especially a team that runs the 3-4 and you can pair him up with another Mike and let him blitz and run and make plays.  If he can continue to play like he has, and have a good offseason showing I see no reason he should be drafted anywhere outside the first 20 picks.

    Final Analysis: I love McClain’s game.  I love the fact that he always knows what to do at the right time, and is almost never caught out of position.  I love he’s big and strong enough to hold the point of attack even against offensive linemen, and that he can deliver a blow like no other player in the draft.  He’s a throwback kind of guy.  Not flashy, and not all about the triangle numbers.  Just an incredibly talented and productive linebacker.

    Reminds me of: Ray Lewis, LB Baltimore Ravens-McClain has the look of a super star, like Lewis does and is an explosive powerful and smart playmaker, just like Lewis.  Also, he may end up slipping in the first round like Lewis did, but for different reasons. 

  101. JB Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    Dmac was the experts can’t miss in 08′.

    Don’t underestimate the Raiders ability to bust anyone.
    ****************

    The only problem with DMac is that he’s not an NFL caliber RB. I believe he could be an NFL caliber slot WR. That’s where we should be utilizing his skills of catching & running fast. It’s all a matter of putting him in the right position. The cowboys got the real Arkansas running back, Felix Jones.

  102. RaiderLen Says:

    Kell, You miss the point.

    It’s about STATES RIGHTS. And State Taxes.

    The Feds have over stepped the bounds by a long shot.

    If You love Socialism move to the Netherlands.

    I understand You’ve had some good times there. ;)

  103. KoolKell Says:

    With the discretionary income that I do have, I put it back into MY community through sponsoships and donations.

    Without the BS of Washington, I’d have more to pour into My community.
    ——————————
    Your house is only worth what the house next door is. So is your community, and my community.

    I think that’s the problem with most white repubs, they don’t accept the broader community.

  104. KoolKell Says:

    Republican LT Gov, SC

    “Don’t feed stray animals or poor people, because they breed”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/25/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6139186.shtml

  105. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Hey Krappy.

    My apologies for vacating the blog for a few hours, my wife and girlfriend wanted to feed me and then we spent some time tongue kissing on the couch.

    Now they’re off to knit me a swim suit for Baja, so I thought I’d check in.

    Surprisingly, it seems you’re still doing a good job of articulating your own, individual thoughts and not plagiarizing someone else like you’ve been doing all week.

    Don’t worry that your own thoughts aren’t much more advanced than that of a baby squirrel. The point is you are trying, listening to my teachings and doing the best you can with your old goat head.

    So continue with the good work, Krap Krap – I can hear my ladies crawling toward me on the floor now so I better crack a few cold Michelobs.

  106. severeraiderz Says:

    http://www.newerascouting.com/01/rolando-mcclain-scouting-report/

    Rolando McClain
    6′4, 258 pounds | Middle linebacker | Alabama
    Coverage: Better in zone coverage than man where he can use his athleticism to break on the ball. Uses his plus football intelligence to know opponent’s passing plays and gets good breaks on routes. Hands are nothing special.

    Instincts: Recognition skills are at an elite level. Is never out of place, which makes his burst and athleticism seem even more impressive. Doesn’t get fooled by play-action and quickly recognizes blocking schemes.
    Pass Rush: A strong pass rusher who is infrequently required to blitz. Shows a good rip move. Closes really fast when he gets an open lane.
    Pursuit: He’s always going hard and fast toward the ball. He takes correct angles to the ball carrier and infrequently gets caught up on blocks. Reportedly has run the 40-yard dash in 4.59 and 4.63 seconds.
    Quickness: Has a great first step off the snap that amplifies his ball recognition skills. Uses his quickness to slip blocks to avoid the arms of his opponents.
    Run defense: McClain is perhaps the premier run-stopping linebacker in the draft. He’s strong and rangy. Playing on the inside, McClain doesn’t wait for the ball carrier to come at him, he attacks.
    Size: Possesses perfect size for the position. Is strong throughout his frame and reportedly has only 9 percent body fat. While
    Strength: Has a powerful frame and impressive functional playing strength. Needs to become a little more technically sound shedding blocks. Will get upright too much and allow blockers into his legs.
    Tackling: A picture-perfect tackler. Wraps up when he reaches the ball carrier. Doesn’t need a lot of help tackling. Doesn’t tackle high. McClain can really big hits on players, jarring the ball loose.
    Versatility: McClain is not just a run-defending middle linebacker. When he’s asked to get after the quarterback, he has the moves to get through inside and close. McClain has also shown he can drop back into coverage and cover tight ends in space.
    Final word: McClain is the most sure-thing as a middle linebacker prospect in the draft since Patrick Willis. He’s a prototypical combination of size, athleticism and intelligence.
    If McClain somehow turns out to be a bust, it will be a shock.

  107. RaiderLen Says:

    KK, My community is White, Asian, Indian, Black etc…

    If You think I’m some sort of White stuffed suit…You are mistaken.

    The Bottom line is this.

    If I have earned the money through the sweat of my brow, allow me the pleasure of infusing it into My community.

    By the way community has a much broader meaning than neihborhood.

    Get It?

  108. KoolKell Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
    Kell, You miss the point.

    It’s about STATES RIGHTS. And State Taxes.
    —————————-
    The Founding Fathers setup a Federal Govt.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_government_of_the_United_States

  109. KoolKell Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 7:08 pm

    KK, My community is White, Asian, Indian, Black etc…

    If You think I’m some sort of White stuffed suit…You are mistaken.

    The Bottom line is this.

    If I have earned the money through the sweat of my brow, allow me the pleasure of infusing it into My community.

    By the way community has a much broader meaning than neihborhood.

    Get It?
    _____________________________
    Fine, you’ve been afforded the opportunity in this country to be in bidness 20 years, even after the “Great Society”. So, pay your gawdamned taxes. ;-)

  110. severeraiderz Says:

    For that one negative report I can find 10 that say the opposite. I’ll give the opposition time to read and prepare a rebuttal.

  111. JB Says:

    Based on Post 106, McClain should be our #1 pick. Our additional picks should be:

    2- OT
    3A- C
    3B- OG
    4-DT
    5A-CB
    5B-RB/KR/PR
    7- Best available lineman – O or D

    No more ZBS. Switch over to Smash-Mouth power blocking.

  112. RaiderLen Says:

    KK, I don’t read links.

    The Fed was supposed to provide for the comon defense.

    The “United States” is just that. Individual principalities/States with THEIR OWN CONSTITUTIONS”

    States Rights are supposed to trump the fed in almost every instance.

    The problem is that the Feds have suckered most States through Economic extortion to do things their way.

    Do You realize that the Federal Income Tax was supposed to be a “temporary measure”?

  113. Senior Beeecham Says:

    KrappyKell, I’m so disappointed!

    Up to this point, you’d been doing so well in not plagiarizing, I almost forgot that you are also an ignorant old racist!

    Well, I guess its baby steps for you. Don’t even know why I’m surprised – your drool and crap your pants just like a toddler.

    So, with that being said, the lesson for tonight, Krap – ease up on the white hate, change your diapers and report back to me immediately.

  114. vegas raider Says:

    KoolKell Says:

    Runs Medicare, that’s pretty good.

    ******************************

    We all pay billions of dollars every year into Medicare. This is a program that is hugely inefficient, and if it wasn’t for private business that supplement medicare (Advantage plans and supplemental plans), and profitably I might add, Medicare itself would be left in the dust.

    Good idea, terrible execution. Just like Tom Cable’s play-calling!!!

  115. buckeyeraider Says:

    JB,
    I’m not sure we know what we have in DMac yet. Kell is right, he was considered a can’t miss running back going into the draft. He was widely believed to be the best overall prospect in that draft class. He had dominated in college football’s toughest conference, the SEC. In fact I remember reading a report saying that two long time SEC observers and former coaches.. Pat Dye of Auburn and Vince Dooley of Georgia saying DMAC was the best they’d seen since Bo and Herschel. A once in a generation type talent.
    Remember, in only his second game as a pro, in which he’d run for about 160 yards in basically one half, he sustained turf toe injuries on both feet, and a seperated shoulder. He shot em up and tried to play the next week and hasn’t looked the same since. Turf toe fukks with your balance, and he always seems to be slipping and falling. DMAC is not soft, he’s a football player. I’ve seen him unload on some people on some crackback blocks. I’d like to see a healthy DMAC running behind an upgraded line before I’d pass final judgement on him.

  116. RaiderLen Says:

    Kell. I don’t like throwing money away.

    I’m generous, but not stupid.

  117. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Man, this Michelob is outta sight!

  118. Raiders4eve Says:

    severeraiderz

    Dude, you are mentioning the good things about the kid, well taken. Except you missing a strong point, we are not talking about a Wide Receiver and a running back. We took about a MLB, those scouts that love him see that he could change position according to the team that drafts him. We dont need a Will or SAM more then a Mike. We need a true Mike who can fit in the 4-3 system. When you drafting a defensive player, his position matters. If we are gonna be a 4-3 defense then we need guys that understand one gap system so that they can get rid of their blocker and tackle the running back, its a huge adjustment if u never played the 4-3 in your life. He is not a hybrid something like Orakapo was coming out of Texas, hybrid is a guy who can play both 4-3 or 3-4. Scott can play 4-3 and 3-4. McClain cannot, I repeat again he clearly never played 4-3, over purses while playing to 3-4, its a complete different animal when you playing Mike in the 4-3.

    Did you watch him play, the guy is known blitzer, our MLB rarely blitz, ask AL Davis how much he likes blitzing. He calls it attack not blitz. Our MLB is responsible to stop the run and play deep coverage against the TE. Spikes had 6 int last year and clearly is the best run stopper MLB in this draft. No question about who fits 4-3 between them. Now, if you willing to wait for McClain to develop then thats different, but I thought we want a guy who can come in from first day and help us against the run, if thats so, then Spikes is the one. There are more questions about McClain if he gets drafted by us rather than Spikes. Basically, I am not sold on this guy. He has potential bust if he plays 4-3 just like Dorsey who is struggling with the chiefs to play 3-4.

  119. vegas raider Says:

    The Spikes or McClain debate may go on for years, and I honestly expect both of them to be pretty good, and would be pleased as punch if we got either one.

    I just think McClain is a tad more physical, and a harder hitter. We have enough “speed” everywhere else, we need a football player in the middle. McClain is a football player (not that Spikes isn’t).

  120. Raiders4eve Says:

    buckeyeraider

    Mike Mayock wasnt sold on DMAC and even warned about him. He stated the fumbling problems and the nag that he falls from first contact.

  121. Raiders4eve Says:

    Remember Dorsey DT best defensive prospect, he was suppose to be a beast. Well under the wrong system dude is a bust. So let me get this straight, there is no difference if you played a 3-4 or 4-3 in college????

  122. vegas raider Says:

    Spikes blitzes just as much as McClain.

    The Gators would bring him off the edge all the time. Spikes also regressed a little this year, just like Rey M last year. There is a reason Spikes may go in the second round, and McClain might go in the top 5.

    Every rookie has to learn when he gets in the league, no matter a new position or not. McClain is a good enough football player to adjust, and at worst he would be a bad-ass, ulta-physical OLB.

    We can use one of those as well.

  123. JB Says:

    # buckeyeraider Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    JB,
    I’m not sure we know what we have in DMac yet. Kell is right, he was considered a can’t miss running back going into the draft. He was widely believed to be the best overall prospect in that draft class. He had dominated in college football’s toughest conference, the SEC. In fact I remember reading a report saying that two long time SEC observers and former coaches.. Pat Dye of Auburn and Vince Dooley of Georgia saying DMAC was the best they’d seen since Bo and Herschel. A once in a generation type talent.
    Remember, in only his second game as a pro, in which he’d run for about 160 yards in basically one half, he sustained turf toe injuries on both feet, and a seperated shoulder. He shot em up and tried to play the next week and hasn’t looked the same since. Turf toe fukks with your balance, and he always seems to be slipping and falling. DMAC is not soft, he’s a football player. I’ve seen him unload on some people on some crackback blocks. I’d like to see a healthy DMAC running behind an upgraded line before I’d pass final judgment on him.
    *****************

    All valid observations but until we upgrade the O-line, who knows when that will happen, let’s use him where he can produce results now – at slot WR. 60%, maybe 80%, of the oO-line needs to be replaced. Gallery is the only sure keeper. Henderson may be better on the right side if we can draft or trade for a legitimate OLT. C, RG & RT definitely need to be replaced post haste.

  124. vegas raider Says:

    True Raider said McClain could be a Lavarr Arrington type.

    Lavarr was one of the best LB’s in the game for a few years. He had injury problems and never met his full potential, but a Lavarr Arrington would be ten times better than what we have been getting with our 1st picks lately.

  125. KoolKell Says:

    I can’t blame Stephen Jackson for wanting to win, wanting to get back into the playoff scene. Cohan wasn’t going to do it.

    Winning players won’t tolerate nonsense. ie Randy Moss, Charles Woodson,

  126. Raiders4eve Says:

    # vegas raider Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 7:24 pm

    Spikes blitzes just as much as McClain.

    The Gators would bring him off the edge all the time. Spikes also regressed a little this year, just like Rey M last year. There is a reason Spikes may go in the second round, and McClain might go in the top 5.

    Every rookie has to learn when he gets in the league, no matter a new position or not. McClain is a good enough football player to adjust, and at worst he would be a bad-ass, ulta-physical OLB.

    We can use one of those as well.
    ==================================================

    Good words my friend. A key thing you said “at worst he would be a bad-ass, ulta-physical OLB.” My question, do we need one of that now???

    Answer is no. We need a beast muscle on top of muscle MLB who can stop the run and cover TE. If McClain is not that why pay him 30 mill to struggle his first year and learn and then switch him to SAM. I dont like that idea. I am hoping we do a sign and trade for Wilfork its sounds like McClain might become a bust in Oakland and super pro bowler in the Chiefs, maybe we can get lucky and get Dorsey wants they cut him and revive his career in here.

  127. Raiders4eve Says:

    If its about drafting the best player available then we go for Dez Bryant thats the guy i want. If not, trade for a veteran like Wilfork, if not draft for need and get Bruce Campbell OL he is a beast.

  128. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    jimmy clausen ….

  129. buckeyeraider Says:

    Yes 4eve,
    I remember Mayock’s critiques of McFadden..skinny legs,lacks lower body strength to run through tackles. Maybe his points are valid. But, the guy sure ran wild thru the SEC. I’m just saying it’s way too early to give up on DMAC as a RB yet. We don’t know how good he can be. His rookie year he was injured in Wk 2, this year the hyperextended knee in wk 5. I just want to see a healthy DMAC behind a hopefully improved OL, before I throw in the towel.

  130. vegas raider Says:

    I don’t think the issue with McClain would be his inability to stop the run and provide some much needed physicality and bulk.

    It would be in the sideline-to-sideline area, and in pass coverage. But honestly most MLB’s aren’t that great at coverage, anyways. The next MLB you can find me that can cover Antonio Gates will be the first one.

    I am just tired of Morrison filling the gap and allowing what should be a 2 yard run turn into a 5 yard run. Or Kirk taking a bad angle on a 3rd and 13 draw and giving up a first down way too easily.

    McClain is a presence on the field, especially between the tackles. We sorely need that. At this stage, after 7 years of pathetic Run D and giving up huge yards between the tackles, I am OK if McClain can’t cover anyone and than our biggest weakness is covering the TE. Beats getting punched in the nose repeatedly on running plays.

  131. RaiderLen Says:

    Imagine a Raider D that just absoulutely STUFFED the run.

    The run game is the machismo of football.

    If You can DOMINATE that…I think it feeds energy to the entire TEAM.

  132. buckeyeraider Says:

    Vegas,
    I agree.I’m getting my hopes up for McClain, just like I did for Rey M. Last year. They need a big physical presence in the middle. But, if they could land a top flight OT in Rd 1, and Spikes slipped to Rd 2, I could live with that. As long as the offensive line , and run defense are addressed, I’ll be happy. No “skill” position players please, Al.

  133. Raiders4eve Says:

    Vegas

    What makes you think McClain wont turn to another Morrison, they said he overpurses while playing the 3-4, can you imagine what would happen to him in 4-3? He cant get off the block and thats the same problem Morrison has, I am not sure you read the scouting report.

    doesnt this sound like another Morrison?

    # Weaknesses:
    # Unimpressive speed
    # Overpursues against run
    # Questionable 4-3 inside linebacker
    # Average sideline-sideline range
    # Good, but not an exceptional athlete
    # Could be exposed in man scheme
    # Doesn’t have huge upside
    # A little uncomfortable in space

  134. vegas raider Says:

    I now someone is going to chime in and say the LB doesn’t matter because of our D-line.

    Well we got one Pro Bowler in Seymour who bounces inside and out. Gregg Ellis is a former pro-bowler and is stout against the run. Kelly continually falls in the top 5 in tackles and tackles for losses for D-lineman. I don’t think he is a top 5 D-lineman, but those stats have to at least prove he is average. Warren needs to be replaced, but he was also a top 5 pick and will end up playing 12 years in the league.

    How many times would we see an opposing run, and the guy just slips past the line of scrimmage, and than the LB’s are nowhere to be found and they gain 25 yards? You watch the replay and Howard overpursues, Kirk gets lost in the middle, and Scott is being handled by a TE.

    Enough is enough

  135. severeraiderz Says:

    Raiders4eve

    you made yourself sound foolish….a hybrid player is one that can be a DE in a 4-3 or an OLB in a 3-4. There is not too much difference between an ILB in a 4-3 and one in a 3-4. I have seen him play and came away impressed, he was the QB of the nations best defense and got his players lined up correctly. One if the games I saw, I believe at Va Tech, he got a personal foul out of frustration and looked a lil slow on a few of his blitzes but overall impressed me.

  136. vegas raider Says:

    That’s one scouting report. I have read others that compare him to Dick Butkus and Rey Lewis, lol.

    If he can’t shed a block, why is Bill Parcells supposedly drooling at the idea of drafting him if he is at #11, which he won’t likely will be?

  137. buckeyeraider Says:

    4eve,
    I watched Alabama a few times this year. Vs. Auburn, SEC championship, and national championship. I saw absolutely no similarities between McClain and Capt. Kirk’s game whatsoever. He is almost the un-Morrison. He’s thick in the lower body, physical against the run, and tackled with some pop.

  138. JT Says:

    If Rusell starts it will be SAME OL SAME OL
    5-11 season…
    If Rusell starts, nobody will support him, the team, the fans…
    Only Al Davis ‘behind’ him

    They can both go to the shed and do their stuff

  139. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    oh bill parcellls is a genius! he never is wrong bout a player . mcclain is too much of a maybe . id hate to come in here 2 years from now and u guys postin : WE REALLY NEED 2 DRAFT BLANK BLANKITY OUT OF PENN STATE MLB. BECUS MCLAIN IS A BUST

  140. Raiders4eve Says:

    severeraiderz

    You right about hybrid. I take that back my bad. Nevertheless, I am not sold on him, I think with 8th overall pick we should a real rare talented player that wont be available down the draft. Vegas has already stated that both are good and he doesnt mind either player, yet McClain is top 10 and Spikes is at best late first round or most probably an early second. My question why would you pick McClain if there are similar players to him, why dont we draft something we cant find down the line someone like Bruce Campbell or Anthony Davis OL best offensive lineman. I would personally take a skill player cause he is worth the money a guy like Dez Bryant is a legit Wrs that we lack. I am not sold on DHB, we need a playmaker in that side of the ball. Dez Bryant is better then Schillens and Murphy.

  141. vegas raider Says:

    I saw a few instances were McClain looked a tad slow. Look, speed isn’t his game, and that would be his potential weakness.

    In the BCS game, I saw one reverse type play where Texas got 20+ yards and McClain did look slow. I even commented on here when it happened. A couple plays later, Texas tries a screen and McClain sniffed it out and absolutely flattened the RB for a loss.

    Great instincts can makeup for a being a tad slow.

  142. buckeyeraider Says:

    The Raiders have had some good MLB’s who didn’t anchor any relay teams. Matt Millen and Greg Biekert come to mind. They might not have been fast, but they could hold their gaps and stuff the inside runs. That’s what this D needs. It’s got enough fast guys.

  143. severeraiderz Says:

    Raiders4eve

    What gives you the authority to say that mcclain can play OLB but not MLB…..he has never played MLB in a 4-3 but has never played OLB period. That transition would be much tougher. From what I saw he has the ability to get from sideline to sideline, can blitz but doesnt do it often, and can cover especially zone which I know we don’t run much(5 picks in the last three years, spikes has 6). He is regarded by many as the best run stopping LB in the nation, and he and his defense proved it while the spikes led defense was gashed by a runner in Mark ingram that many consider too slow to have a major impact at the next level. Spikes numbers regressed each year from his sophmore to his senior year while mcclain and his defenses got better.

  144. Raiders4eve Says:

    Well, the problem is McClain might not be good in holding his gap or shedding off the blocker. Bill Parcel is a 3-4 guy, he is drooling cause he knows McClain can will fit dolphins defense very well. They are aggressive defense that goes after the QB. Most probably he will used something like LaMarr Woodley, but we are not going to use him like that. You draft a guy to use his skills and his skills doesnt fit well with the Raiders man to man 4-3 defense. Why waste his talent like that? Get OL Campbell and get Spikes or Micah Johnson lower picks.

    I would love our draft to be like this:

    1) Campbell OL
    2) Cody DT
    3) D’Anthony Smith DT
    3) Micah Johnson MLB

  145. Raiders4eve Says:

    severeraiderz

    Its actually the opposite. He is not good from side line to side line and he blitzes more then you seen. Ask Vegas if u dont believe me he agrees with that.

  146. severeraiderz Says:

    Lol if we could get OT Davis or Campbell and Spikes great, but why not Mcclain and a second round OT? Dez Bryant????!!!! Why not just draft Mays or Haden or Griffen or Pierre-Paul? We need an intimidating safety, a better second corner, and a better pass rush so using ur logic we could grab any of them and justify it. Mcclain is the type if player that lifts defenses to a new level. Before the draft Alex smith and Aaron Rodgers were neck and neck, I believe that mcclain is the Aaron Rodgers in this scenario I just hope we don’t make the Alex smith pick. Sorry for all the typos, darn iPhone.

  147. severeraiderz Says:

    I watched most of the Bama games this year because my girl is from Leeds, Al. I know just what he can and can’t do. He can play from sideline to sideline but may have been hard to tell because he likes to keep plays in front if him and not overpursue. He is a proficient blitzer but didn’t do it nearly as much as you made it seem. You also said that we don’t blitz our MLB, did u ever stop to think that it may be because we didn’t have one that could. Mcclain could give us that player to do it because we had no problem blitzing, Howard, Branch, Mitchell, and our corners.

  148. Raiders4eve Says:

    Now watch McClain speak, he sounds like another Jamarcus

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqzkQFun-3s&feature=related

  149. Raiders4eve Says:

    Why does my comment says this “Your comment is awaiting moderation”

    I havent cursed or anything. Can someone tell me???

    The reason we dont blitz is cause AL Davis man to man defense is not built for blitzing, AL likes 4 man rush and pass coverage the rest, come on you know it too.

  150. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    when guys are real monsters u know. i remember the first time i heard of patrick willis. univ of memphis was playing ole miss and i was listening 2 da game on da radio . like evry other word that came outta the announcers mouth was willis big play! willis with the sack! sum linebackers just got it

  151. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    raiders4eve doesnt really matter if mcclain is dumber than jruss. hes not a quarterback! qbs must be intelligent to thrive in the nfl, jruss is most likely the dumbest .

  152. Raiders4eve Says:

    I agree with you guys but my concern is that McClain might not be utilized by AL philosophy man to man defense. If so Spikes fits AL gamestyle that’s all I m saying

  153. severeraiderz Says:

    Al likes what works, we blitzed more last year that at anytime in the last 5 years. Why not add another player that can get to the QB, the threat of the blitz can be quite effective. Even better, imagine Mcclain coming up the middle on a mike blitz and smacking Rivers in the mouth and then the scoreboard plays McClaaaaiiinnnn!!!! in that die hard bad guys voice. Lol classic. Basically what I’m saying is that Mcclain gives us a better run stopper in the Rey M mold but also an effective blitzer in the middle, something Capt Kirk has never been.

  154. Raiders4eve Says:

    severeraiderz

    Do you agree that McClain benefited from having Mt Cody in front of him? Spikes played well last year without a guy like Cody infront of him, what you think about that?

  155. Raiders4eve Says:

    what about the point that McClain wasnt the team captain defensively, as stated in the article i posted earlier

    “But he also serves as the defense’s playcaller and leader, getting chosen as a captain by his teammates the day after Alabama beat Florida 32-13 in the SEC title game.”

  156. Raider75 Says:

    F*CK Deion Sanders. He’s just mad because he wanted to unretire to the Raiders a few years back and Al said…

    Not no Deion, but HELL NO!

    By the way…

    JusFkdus Russell is horrible. He can work from now until Doomsday and it won’t change.

  157. severeraiderz Says:

    If they were running a 4-3 the affect of the DT is greater but I do believe having a space eater like Cody helped. I also believe having players like Joe Hade, Dunlap, Jarvis moss, Reggie Nelson, Ray mcdonald etc etc have helped Spikes not to mention a quick scoring offense that gave him plenty of oppurtunities on D.

  158. severeraiderz Says:

    Most teams choose seniors as captains

  159. Raiders4eve Says:

    Here is the argument against JR. People say that Vince Young resurrected his career while not realizing that Vince Young led his team and won rookie offensive player of the year plus got voted in the pro bowl. So he had shown some success. Meanwhile, Jr never showed anything except winning and having some success end of the 2008 season, how in the world would he get better i have no clue. I was watching the Suns game where they showed him wearing bling bling, what is he doing in AZ? Training who knows. I doubt we will see a new JR.

  160. Raiders4eve Says:

    severeraiderz

    Spikes was the capt since his junior season. I think we both want the best for our team, if McClain gets drafted I would buy his jersey and support him. I hope he succeeds as a Raider, I just feel Spikes is the better fit, there is no knock on him while I am reserved and skeptical about McClain, he could be a bust.

  161. severeraiderz Says:

    Isn’t it funny tha u just admitted that McClain was elected captain during his junior year as well. Like I said most teams choose seniors, not all. You are really reaching now my man, grasping at straws……Randy Moss and Kirk Morrison have been team captains here, enough said.

  162. Culebra Says:

    God! I hope Russell won’t be the starter. I’ve seen enough of him to cut him or bench him indefinitely. What a waste of money.

  163. severeraiderz Says:

    I want the best for our team as well and it is my opinion that McClain is the player we need. Spikes is a great player and one of my favorite college players…..McClain is just special.

  164. severeraiderz Says:

    FYI I would rather have Suh than either.

  165. Raiders4eve Says:

    severeraiderz

    I hope so my brother, we never even know who AL will pick, I just hope he doesnt draft CB Hadden lol.

  166. texguy Says:

    Rd 1 – OL
    Rd 2 – DL
    Rd 3 – LB
    Rd 3 – C
    Rd 4 – FB
    The rest – Best player available.
    Not fastest, best.

  167. severeraiderz Says:

    Haden can ball I woulb he more angry over a Mays or a Dez pick. What’s the book on Anthony Davis I didn’t watch too much if him so I don’t know how good he is. Would you rather him or Trent Williams if we take a 1st round OT. What about Ducasse in the third, I hear that he may be moved to guard Ciron Black is falling as well and is struggling at the senior bowl practices he may be available in the 3rd.

  168. DKnight007 Says:

    Picking a freakin CB, WR, Safety,or RB with the #8 pick will just help continue the downward spiral of the franchise and team.

    Enough is enough….build the Lines and LB corp through the draft and get a kick returner in the later rounds.

  169. DKnight007 Says:

    # severeraiderz Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    Haden can ball I woulb he more angry over a Mays or a Dez pick. What’s the book on Anthony Davis I didn’t watch too much if him so I don’t know how good he is. Would you rather him or Trent Williams if we take a 1st round OT. What about Ducasse in the third, I hear that he may be moved to guard Ciron Black is falling as well and is struggling at the senior bowl practices he may be available in the 3rd.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Ducasse will not fall into the 3rd round…..let alone the 2nd round. His stock will skyrocket…..watch.

  170. priesttj Says:

    You guy’s talk as if what you think has some bearing on what will happen. Guess again!!

    McClain is in now way a finished product this kid is very young and hasn’t developed physically. He has great instincts which is much more important than sideline to sideline speed 4/3 MLB don’t need to play sideline to sideline as much as the need to play tackle to tackle and penetrate gaps.

    Your safeties take care of the stuff that gets to the sidelines. The safeties we have would work very well with McClain. I like several MLB’s Johnson is very good as well as Spikes. Your MLB must be a leader and very instinctive and football smart similar to a QB in that he has to get the play called get guy’s lined up and key very well react to the OG’s because they will tell where the play is going.

    All three mentioned are very good at these, one has better speed one has better athleticism and one is more stout than the others but McClain 3 years from now will be one of the top MLB in the game …………period there are others not mentioned but MLB must be football smart and instinctive and a great leader. That’s what hurts Kirk instincts and diagnosis.

    Beikert wasn’t nearly the athlete Kirk is but Beikert was extremely football smart and instinctive. I would take another Beikert in a heartbeat. He could cover grandma but he would call a great game and lead and hit all day.

    That’s McClain he just understands football and what offense want to do. That is the key to playing MLB.

  171. Raiders4eve Says:

    severeraiderz

    To be honest I like Bruce Campbell better then any OL in this draft. Even better then Russell Okung from Oklahoma State. He is a beast, muscle on top of muscle his physical attributes is beyond the measures. He can play man and zone scheme. He is tall 6′7 and his upside is more then any OL in this draft. Only knock on him is durability and I suspect he is been on the good stuff Alston bodybuilding cause the guy looks like a DL not an OL.

  172. Raiders4eve Says:

    priesttj

    Glad you are in the discussion. Let me ask you this bro, have you read what the scouts said. Here it is.

    # Weaknesses:
    # Unimpressive speed
    # Overpursues against run
    # Questionable 4-3 inside linebacker
    # Average sideline-sideline range
    # Good, but not an exceptional athlete
    # Could be exposed in man scheme
    # Doesn’t have huge upside
    # A little uncomfortable in space

    You know the Raider D plays man to man, scouts say that McClain could be exposed in the dept, they also question if he could play the 4-3 defense, he overpurses while playing a 3-4 (being assisted by another MLB) so clearly with the 4-3 he will struggle. What you think about the knock on him comparing to a guy like Spikes who played 4-3 and was the true leader since his junior year and voice of his team.

  173. priesttj Says:

    Raiders4eve, well it may be true but it is one man’s opinion I don’t agree wit 60% of it. I think he is a good fit in a 4/3 most MLB can be exposed in man scheme no surprise there. I think he has huige upside and most MLB are uncomfortable in space. That is why players need to develope some of those things can change in 3 years. Spikes is the better athlete if that’s what you prefer. A team must decide what players fits their system better. Any of these guy’s would fit very well in our system IMO. Spikes is a bigger more physical Kirk, McClain is more like Beikert just better. Micah is a run stuffer supreme, he will get victimized vs a Saints team or Colts on 3rd down but that’s the same with most MLB. The reason we drafted Kirk was because he could play alll 3 downs and we compromised the run d. You can’t have the perfect MLB even Ray Lewis has his weaknesses they just cover them up well.

  174. Raiders4eve Says:

    Priesttj

    But we need a guy who can solve the problem right away. You said it yourself “A team must decide what players fits their system better” if so, Spikes is the best player between the two. Remember Dorsey, he is a currently a bust cause he couldnt adapt to 3-4, he is a 4-3 three technique player. McClain will need time to learn playing the Mike by himself why take the risk when you can get a guy like Spikes. Did you get a chance to hear him in a game, watch this youtube and tell me if you not impressed.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4KJUEdN3T8

  175. Raiders4eve Says:

    Brandon Spikes

    # Strengths: Great production since sophomore year
    # Big-time hitter
    # Prototype size and strength
    # Always around the ball; active
    # Explosive athlete
    # Diagnoses run well
    # Disengages from blockers
    # Aggressive
    # Comfortable in space
    # Good pursuit
    # Physical
    # Good vision and can locate ball-carrier
    # Durable
    # High upside

    # Weaknesses:
    # Doesn’t always take proper angles
    # Hips could be more fluid; a little stiff
    # Looks somewhat awkward in zone coverage vs. pass
    # Lacks really impressive speed
    # Occasionally out of position
    # Good aggression, but sometimes does too much (overpursues, goes for big hit)

  176. MTraidernation Says:

    switching to a 3-4, “blitzburg” defense would be a refreshing change-up next year, especially because this is a defense-rich draft crop. a mountain-type tackle would be a smart pick, and tebow in the 2nd. worst case senerio: tebow beats out russell and is available to run some wild-cat. half-empty: russell gets pissed, improves work habits and makes team on merit.

    none of these decisions would make this team any worse…ouch.

  177. Raiders4eve Says:

    Rolando McClain

    # Strengths: Huge frame for ILB
    # Very long arms
    # Good level of production
    # Comfortable in coverage
    # Excellent tackling technique
    # Stacks and sheds blocks well
    # Very good pass rusher
    # Love his timing on blitzes
    # Nice agility; smooth change of direction
    # Highly experienced
    # Takes good angles to the ball
    # Stays in control
    # Nice versatility especially in 3-4 defense
    # Vocal leader
    # Intelligent
    # Very young prospect (20 years old)
    # Doesn’t take plays off
    # Outstanding instincts
    # Well versed in 3-4 defense

    # Weaknesses:
    # Unimpressive speed
    # Overpursues against run
    # Questionable 4-3 inside linebacker
    # Average sideline-sideline range
    # Good, but not an exceptional athlete
    # Could be exposed in man scheme
    # Doesn’t have huge upside
    # A little uncomfortable in space

    Now, who sounds like a true Mike between the two?

  178. priesttj Says:

    I am a huge Spikes fan he’s as I said a more physical version of Kirk. I think he would be a great fit. I love his athleticism and leadership He’s not as instinctive IMO but his athleticism helps cover that up. We dn’t need the perfect MLB we need a better MLB Kirk is more suited for a 3/4 inside guy. Where he can justv take a zone and stay in it not have to think as much. Look at Willis for the niners his game is run and chase and be physical he’s not exceptionally instinctive he’s just such a great athlete no one knows it.

  179. DKnight007 Says:

    # Raiders4eve Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    priesttj

    Glad you are in the discussion. Let me ask you this bro, have you read what the scouts said. Here it is.

    # Weaknesses:
    # Unimpressive speed
    # Overpursues against run
    # Questionable 4-3 inside linebacker
    # Average sideline-sideline range
    # Good, but not an exceptional athlete
    # Could be exposed in man scheme
    # Doesn’t have huge upside
    # A little uncomfortable in space

    You know the Raider D plays man to man, scouts say that McClain could be exposed in the dept, they also question if he could play the 4-3 defense, he overpurses while playing a 3-4 (being assisted by another MLB) so clearly with the 4-3 he will struggle. What you think about the knock on him comparing to a guy like Spikes who played 4-3 and was the true leader since his junior year and voice of his team.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Those reviews about McClains supposed weakeness’ sound like someone coming up with reasons for a team like the Raiders to not pick him…..so he can fall to another team who would love to have him!

    McClain will be a solid NFL MLB/MIKE/ILB for ANY team IMO.

    Watch him light it up at the combine and on his pro days.

  180. DKnight007 Says:

    # Raiders4eve Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    priesttj

    Glad you are in the discussion. Let me ask you this bro, have you read what the scouts said. Here it is.

    # Weaknesses:
    # Unimpressive speed
    # Overpursues against run
    # Questionable 4-3 inside linebacker
    # Average sideline-sideline range
    # Good, but not an exceptional athlete
    # Could be exposed in man scheme
    # Doesn’t have huge upside
    # A little uncomfortable in space

    You know the Raider D plays man to man, scouts say that McClain could be exposed in the dept, they also question if he could play the 4-3 defense, he overpurses while playing a 3-4 (being assisted by another MLB) so clearly with the 4-3 he will struggle. What you think about the knock on him comparing to a guy like Spikes who played 4-3 and was the true leader since his junior year and voice of his team.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Those reviews about McClains supposed weakeness’ sound like someone coming up with reasons for a team like the Raiders to not pick him…..so he can fall to another team who would love to have him!

    McClain will be a solid NFL MLB/MIKE/ILB for ANY team IMO.

    Watch him light it up at the combine and on his pro days.

    Spikes is gonna be a beast in the NFL as well.

    Spikes might be a better fit in a 4-3, than McClain though.

  181. Raiders4eve Says:

    Priesttj

    But we are not switching to 3-4, if we are I would say draft McClain, since we are not by the offseason move showing that we sticking with Marshal and Wauffle, why draft a guy who will need time to learn the 4-3? Why allow a rookie to struggle under this defense since he never played a 4-3, I am sure you understand that its easier to play 3-4 MLB as you stated run and chase. In 4-3 you will have more task like play zone cover, spy the quarterback, man to man, blitz, call the plays, you think a 20 year old kid who was running and chasing would learn to do all that from the moment you plug him in the starting position?

    Look, I know you like the kid but if I am drafting for AL’s defense, Spike or Micah fits the bill.

  182. priesttj Says:

    We really don’t need to change to a 3/4 we play enough of it to get what we need out of it. When Scott is at DE we are essentially in a 3/4 same principles. We did things on defense last year that I haven’t seen in 20 years or more. We played rover, elephant, cover2 3/4 and 4/3 base there is’t much more that you can do.

    We got gashed due to overzealousness overrunning gaps and missed assignments that’s where Kirk really just frustrates me. Because he is usually the one misreading. Tyvon covered up a lot of his mistakes. With a Spikes or McClain, Tyvon can be as good a safety as Ronnie Lott. Tyvon, Huff and Mitchell are 3 outstanding safeties. We just need a guy in the middle who demands consistent great play against the run and Kirk just doesn’t cut it.

  183. Raiders4eve Says:

    DKnight007

    All I am saying there is potential bust for McClain under this defensive system. This defense doesnt play according to his strength, like Priesttj said, the kid likes to run and chase just like Willis. We need a guy who can play man to man 90% of the time. He has never done that, Spikes did. Why draft with ifs when there is a sure MLB that will command the huddle and be a team leader from day 1. Have you seen the Spikes talk to his team. The guy is a leader, aggressive, strong swagger, physically gifted. I would take this guy who can talk and play like that over McClain anytime.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4KJUEdN3T8

  184. priesttj Says:

    Man, that guy is so athletic it’s ridiculous……I would love to have that kid at inside backer for the Raiders he’s just a very high motor guy capable of great plays game changing plays.

  185. Raiders4eve Says:

    Spikes never had Mt Cody blocking in front of him, he also had more responsibility as defensive captain, McClain became a captain after the Florida game that is the end season one game before the national championship. Spikes looks more beefed up like a true MLB, McClain looks more like an OLB, he is too tall and needs to add weight. He is only 20 while Spikes is 23. Spikes fits 4-3 from day one, McClain needs maybe a year or two before he adapts. McClain will command 30 mill at least, Spikes can be had late first round or early second.

    My pick would be Bruce Campbell most physically gifted OL I ever seen. The guy looks like a DE Julius Pepper. He is muscled up, excellent run and pass blocker, can play man and zone scheme. Runs a 4.7 or 4.8, tall 6′7 you can start him LT right away.

  186. priesttj Says:

    But guy’s it’s like saying what your favorite ice cream is. These are all very good players that would make this defense better instantly.

  187. Raiders4eve Says:

    Watch the guy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve_as9k6PvI

  188. Raiders4eve Says:

    Priesttj

    Who you think is the best OL in this draft?

  189. priesttj Says:

    Raiders4eve, sounds tooo much like steriods, not saying I know something but every Oline I’ve ever seen that was rocked up was on the juice. Just throwing that out there. There is a kid from Iowa played LT that’s pretty damn good. That Iupulati guy is also interesting.

  190. priesttj Says:

    Raiders4eve, honestly speaking I’m still studying them I want to see the senior bowl so that I can have a better chance to see them on one film. But they say Okung is special but as I said so far I love the Bulaga kid I mean I really like him. He is very physical and is a great technician which I love. LT’s like him are extremely hard to find.

  191. Frank YoooooooLLL Says:

    HEy where is real madden raider…….maybe he aint allowed to stay up this late…….any way chew on this for a while Mr. Madden raider from Monte Poole, you read it…..I know I know that Monte Poole aint nothin but a racsist lol
    ——————————–
    That Jackson is an African-American who played when black quarterbacks were a novelty likely won’t hurt his chances to bond with Russell, who by all accounts was adversely affected by the deaths of two close uncles last year.

  192. Raiders4eve Says:

    priesttj

    I agree and I said earlier he looks like he is juiced up, I dont understand whats up with Maryland football program Merriman, Vernon Davis all looking jizzled up from juice, I hope DHB didnt use it to run 4.3. I would still take this guy juiced up or not he is mean DL killing machine. Thats what we need for our LT or RT position.

  193. priesttj Says:

    Raiders4eve,I don’t know if we can get him cheap maybe but guy’s that are that agressive normally struggling because Oline play is mostly technigue positioning and intellect. Yes you must be strong and physical even powerful but you can’t be aggressive it can work against you. Oline play is passive, Dline play is aggressive.

  194. Raiderglory34 Says:

    Ok first thing first! how can you blame davis for everything? one you dont see any other owners being blamed for their team doing bad! for one i do agree about the Lines! but first round get a good linebacker to improve the core 2nd round will the the biggest piece of the draft for the raiders TERRENCE CODY PERIOD!!! free agency we need to being a big time VETERAN to lead the line. we have everything that we need with cody and a big play LB the defense vs. run no one will get through it morrison is in the top 4 MLB in the NFL but its hard when you dont have the DT to cover him up! LOOK at urlacher not DT he got hurt

    1.one of 3 LB’s
    2DT cody if we dont have 2nd trade for it
    rest of the draft is project OL and another DT

    but last things last look at yals self blaming the record on russell give the dude a break hes had a new system to learn every year hes been here on top of that its a rebuilding time i see alot of improvement in the next 2 seasons if we pick like i said

  195. Raiders4eve Says:

    Cool, well its been good to hear your input, I am out for the night, gotta hit the club.

    Goodnight everyone

  196. Raiderglory34 Says:

    plus on the russel thing your wr and te need to be on the same page!!! 2 new wr’s when russel was loosing shows why russell was struggling but when he went to miller he passes looked great!! schilens had been injuried most of the season once he was back russell was on the bench! i cant wait to see miller schillens and murphy with a veteren lineman leading the line! its going to be dangerous!

    get rid of kelly,jevon walker worst deals i have ever seen walker hasnt been the same since he got robbed and beat up before ever playing for the raiders

    trade fargas for picks or a veteran lineman
    bush mcfadden and gary russell can handle the run game

  197. Nnamdi21 Says:

    182. Agreed.

  198. Seymour Bush Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    Now look at Nnamdi, theres a miserable guy If you had to guess. Im pretty sure he isnt laughing while typing like I do.
    =======================================

    The only way this idiot turd would be laughing is if he was wearing nothing, and staring at his own crotch. then he should be laughing. In fact every female on earth would be laughing with him.

  199. 4evaRaider Says:

    Morning Nation!!!!
    ************************

    Nnamdi21 is one of the better posters in here

  200. YoungAmerican Says:

    Our most glaring needs are on the O-line, for sure. We’ve needed another OT since the Gallery experiment went tits-up. I mean, we’ve been starting Cornell freaking Green at RT. It can’t get much worse.

    Cooper Carlisle has been disappointing, too. Maybe having a better RT will help him, but I wouldn’t be opposed to the Raiders bring in another interior offensive lineman (either a C or G), but that might be better left for free agency if we go OT in the draft.

    Still, as much as we need O-line help, I certainly wouldn’t mind seeing our first round pick be Rolando McClain. Big MLB, and a playmaker. Re-sign Howard, keep Trevor Scott playing SLB, and that should help our run defense.

    The draft is also deep at the DT position, but something tells me that Al is happy to franchise Seymour, give Shaughnessy (or Ellis if he’s back) the other DE spot, and let Kelly, Warren, and Desmond Bryant (with occasional cameos by Seymour) fight it out on the inside under the new D-line coach.

    While I have my doubts that the Raiders can actually develop a young QB, with a new offensive coordinator and Paul Hackett (presumably) still being the QB coach, Dan LeFevour and Tony Pike could both be intriguing options if they’re still around in the 3rd round or so. It would also help push Bruce Gradkowski a little more by giving him some talented young competition (since the whole “talented competition” thing likely won’t come from Jamarcus Russell).

    What a lot of people aren’t talking about, however, is the glaring lack of depth at CB. With any luck the whole Stanford Routt debacle has finally come to an end. I’d like to see the Raiders bring in a young corner to play the nickel slot, maybe even spell Chris Johnson on some downs. If I’m not mistaken Lito Sheppard is a free agent and might be a decent pickup, but the knock on him has always been his inconsistent tackling, and who knows if he’s physical enough to play corner in this particular defensive scheme. Still, it seems like anything would be better than Routt and Jonothan Holland being our only backup CBs.

  201. ShanghaiSmith Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
    Simply drafting lineman, which is a great need of course…….does NOT mean holes will be filled.

    Haha… holes will be filled…

  202. ShanghaiSmith Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
    Simply drafting lineman, which is a great need of course…….does NOT mean holes will be filled.

    Unless they draft some fruity linemen.

  203. vegas raider Says:

    We have so many holes, it doesn’t matter if we take an O-lineman first, or a DB first, or a LB first.

    But we need a RT, a slot DB, a KR, at least one LB, a DT, and a G (not to mention a QB)

    No way do we fill all those holes this year in the draft.

    So if we talk Javier Arenas in the 2nd round, and a LB in the first and an O-lineman in the 3rd, I would be elated.

  204. vegas raider Says:

    Interesting Super Bowl.

    You got the 21st and the 24th ranked run D’s (below average) and the Colts have the worst rushing offense in the league.

    So a team that can’t run the ball or stop the run is about to win the Super Bowl, lol.

  205. YoungAmerican Says:

    Strange to talk about FB as a legitimate position of need, but Dorin Dickerson was a big goal-line threat for Pitt. Good enough hands on the kid for him to see some time at TE, too. Could help us out a lot, considering the alternative is another year with Lawton(probably not)/Reese/Russell.

  206. vegas raider Says:

    FB is a need, but sometimes you can get the best fullback in college, in the 5th or 6th round.

    The draft does not put much emphasis on the FB spot. To short of a shelf life to invest a higher pick on them I guess

  207. YoungAmerican Says:

    # vegas raider Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 7:49 am

    FB is a need, but sometimes you can get the best fullback in college, in the 5th or 6th round.

    —————–

    Yeah, looks like Dickerson is slated as a 5-7th rounder. Could be a steal for the Raiders, especially with that 4.5 speed.

  208. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Rayda23059 Says:
    January 29th, 2010 at 4:47 am
    Improvement strategy (very insightful):
    1) “we got to score more points on offense”
    2) “we’ve had a big issue in terms of the big play defensively, giving it up”
    3) “finding a return game on our special teams”

    No problem!
    ————————————–

    Cable from a HC’s stand-point has narrowed the Raider’s weaknesses down to just 3 things…Offense, Defense, and Special Teams… Brilliant!

  209. Random Drug Tester Says:

    I think he forgot Scouting, Drafting, and Player Development.

  210. chucka1122 Says:

    If Jabust is the automatic starter, this organization is a joke. Jabust should not even be on the team, nor should DHB. These players are absolutely terrible! I just cannot get over the ineptness of this organization. Cut your losses!!! Let these players go stink it up somewhere else. Draft some 0-line and D-line, and look to free agency to add some talent. If they bring back Jabust, there will be even fewer fans in the stands. Get over it Al, you made some mistakes, move on. Cable coming back will help with the continuity, but he needs to not play Jabust and DHB if the Raiders are going to have success.

    Jabust and DHB need to go!!!!

  211. vegas raider Says:

    I think DHB will have a much better career than Russell and McFadden.

    I know that is not saying much however.

  212. Raider guy Says:

    What in the hell is al davis doing?

  213. Norco Bob Says:

    I spoke with brian, we both agree to bring in Mike Vick, to compete with Gradkowski and Frye for starting job, best man wins…Russell will be a non factor.

  214. SouthernStyle Says:

    When it comes to discussing scouting and drafting during team meetings it really doesn’t matter, cause Al sees their mouth moving but nothing comes out. Al will pick his guy. I won’t get pissed and throw my remote out my window this year… i’m prepared.

  215. vegas raider Says:

    The Raiders were right to shelf DHB when they did. He had a confidence issue going on, seriously no collegiate WR could be that terrible catching the ball, it had to be all mental.

    So his last game, he was open a few times, and caught a TD. Should help him with a little confidence heading into the offseason.

  216. Random Drug Tester Says:

    SouthernStyle Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 8:35 am
    When it comes to discussing scouting and drafting during team meetings it really doesn’t matter, cause Al sees their mouth moving but nothing comes out. Al will pick his guy. I won’t get pissed and throw my remote out my window this year… i’m prepared.
    ———————————————

    That’s right….that’s why I’m all set for our 8th over-all pick to be….Javier Arenas!

  217. SouthernStyle Says:

    I’m not hating on the DHB pick it’s just where he got picked. We coulda picked him up later, and he wouldn’t have had so much pressure on him to adjust to the pro game. Hopefully he’s working on his hands this offseason and Al is working on his drafting skills.

  218. Norco Bob Says:

    Im sure Davis would have loved ot get DHB later,..tried probably to trade out of that 7th pick,..couldnt, so took his guy where he did,..bfd,….get over it.

  219. vegas raider Says:

    You won’t be mad when Arenas is back returning kicks and giving us better Field position and a few TD’s a year returning kicks.

    If he goes to an AFC opponent, he will be a thorn in our side for years.

  220. Mistabr0wn Says:

    AL is trying to make things so sh!tty for Cable he quits. Its not working..

    ____________________

    # Raider guy Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 8:33 am

    What in the hell is al davis doing?

  221. Florida Pete Says:

    DHB could soak his hands in Ivory dishsoap for 3 months…

    get a professional manicure…

    and still have hands of stone…

    get used to using the word “clunk”…

    “there’s a deep pass by Russell and ‘clunk’… Heyward Bey lets it bounce off his hands…”

  222. Norco Bob Says:

    What the Hell is Al Davis doing?…well, why are you asking posters in this blog?..they sure havent a clue…if any of them ever were to meet him they would shake and quiver and beg for his autograph.

  223. Norco Bob Says:

    If theres a deep pass by Russell, its either getting picked or landing in the 4th row in my section.

  224. Florida Pete Says:

    but i would like to make one request…

    i know some of you guys go to the games…

    some of you have good seats…

    i want you to listen carefully the next time DHB has one go off his hands…

    does it sound like the ball hit metal armour???

    kind of a hollow metal sound???

    just asking…

  225. Florida Pete Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 9:14 am
    What the Hell is Al Davis doing?…well, why are you asking posters in this blog?..they sure havent a clue…if any of them ever were to meet him they would shake and quiver and beg for his autograph.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    or piss their pants… thinking they had met the Grim Reaper without his shroud…

  226. Mistabr0wn Says:

    If Cable doesnt quit AL is hoping that during OTA’s or Mini camps Cable slugs a water boy or something so he can fire him for cause.

    Its a replay of the Kiffen fiasco..

  227. Norco Bob Says:

    Pete youve been pissing your pants in here for a long time, that makes you an expert on that subject.

  228. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    I’ve met Al. I shook his hand, it was cold and clammy and he applied about as much pressure as my 5 year old girl.

  229. Random Drug Tester Says:

    VegasRaider

    I’ve been predicting/campaigning the Arenas pick since the BCS game.

    But then I did the same thing last year for Alex Mack.

  230. Norco Bob Says:

    Ya ok Sweep,…youre just another blog loser that leaves his house only when mom takes him shopping for socks and a cases of mac n cheese to get you through the month.

  231. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Whatever Norco.

    I met Al at Candelstick the night Jerry Rice caght his 100th TD and Nap McCallum broke his leg.

    He didn’t look like the undead yet, but he came off as strange to me even then.

  232. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    By the way, I like pbj’s with the crust cut off better than mac n cheese.

  233. vegas raider Says:

    So have I!!! I was onto him, after the SEC title game.

    This team has so many holes, and he is one guy who can fill two holes with one roster spot (return both kicks and punts, and a slot nickle corner).

    I hope we get him in the 2nd. Than we can focus on O-line and Run D with the rest of the picks, and maybe a FB in the later rounds.

  234. ca1tra2 Says:

    Can we bring in Earnest Byner as running backs coach??

  235. Norco Bob Says:

    Byner for what?….our backs already know how to fumble in crucial times. Hes not needed.

  236. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    No we don’t need Arenes or any other returner or specialist or backer. We need lineman! Won’t win without them.

    DHB is a bust. Players drafted in the top 10 are supposed to contribute right away. Unless they are QBs, and they are supposed to show improvement and leadership from day 1

    Al Davis drafts these projects that take 5 and 6 years to develop…if they develop at all.

    Davis has no clue what he is doing in the draft…that is clear

  237. RaiderResurrection Says:

    Its funny. Read between the lines…

    Asomugha basically says Jamarcus is not able to do the job.

    Basically Jamarcus has to have a revelation to succeed.

  238. vegas raider Says:

    SnB,

    If you think the only problem with this team is the lines, you are crazy.

    When Routt is on the field, he gets picked on. Nothing would improve our 3rd Down defense better than replacing Routt. NOTHING

  239. Mistabr0wn Says:

    A good pass rush would benefit us on 3rd down defense more than replacing Routt or anything else. Who rush’s the passer on the Oakland Raiders?

    ______________________

  240. vegas raider Says:

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 9:40 am

    Davis has no clue what he is doing in the draft…that is clear

    ************************************

    At the beginning of the draft, no doubt.

    But Louis Murphy was the best player taken in the 4th round. Nobody did better than Al in that round.

    And Shaughnessy was the second most productive D-lineman as a rookie in the whole draft, behind Orakpo. Not sure, but he may have been the best pick in the 3rd round as well. And Branch, a 4th rounder the year before, lead all safeties in tackles and may make the Pro Bowl if Ed Reed retires in years ahead.

    And the top 10 this past year, you have Jason Smith (#2), Tyvon Jackson (#3), Andre Smith (#6), DHB (#7), and Aaron Maybin (#11) that all completely sucked last year. DHB was not even the worst of the group, if you can believe that.

    No excusing Al, but you are going off the deep end with this stuff.

  241. r8eray Says:

    Good Morning Nation!

  242. vegas raider Says:

    We get a decent pass rush. We were eleventh in the league in sacks last year, and all ten teams in front of us in sacks, had over 50 (some 100) more pass attempts against us. In fact, as a % of sacks to pass attempts, we are among the league leaders, if not THE LEADER. WE HAD 5 MORE SACKS THAN THE JETS AND ALL THERE GREAT BLITZES!!!! Here’s the link:

    http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?offensiveStatisticCategory=null&archive=false&seasonType=REG&defensiveStatisticCategory=TEAM_PASSING&d-447263-o=2&conference=null&d-447263-s=PASSING_SACKED&d-447263-n=1&season=2009&qualified=true&Submit=Go&tabSeq=2&role=OPP&d-447263-p=1

  243. vegas raider Says:

    Jets had 32 sacks on 501 pass attempts.

    Raiders had 37 sacks on 438 pass attempts, while rarely blitzing.

    Pass-rush is not an issue with this team, Stanford Routts’ weekly penalty and big play allowed were.

  244. vegas raider Says:

    The thing is, the Jets, gave up a completion percentage of 51, and the Raiders is 59.

    Now certainly a lot of that for the Jets are QB’s throwing the ball away due to pressure, but we sack the QB more than most teams.

    I remember the Giants game where we sacked Eli on a 3rd down. Than *beep* holding #26, 5 yard penalty, automatic first down.

    Happens way too often.

  245. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Eleventh in the league in sacks when our defense was on the field as much as it was isn’t impressive.

    SO we were great on sacking the Qb but terrible on 3rd downs. Sacks are nice but how many times did we hurry or disrupt a Qb?

    I would put replacing Routt behind a pass rusher and a MLB, basically the last thing we need on Def.

  246. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Vegas I bet we are at the bottom of forcing 3 & outs. I bet we are at the bottom hurrying or knocking down the Qb. Seymour was basically a non factor after week 1. T Scott, Shaunessy, and Ellis had a few sacks between them but nothing special.

  247. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Ernest Byner!

  248. DKnight007 Says:

    Sooooo……has any major positive move occurred yet?

    Like the old man giving JIM HARBAUGH what he wants to be the head coach of the Raiders with Hue Jackson as his OC, so this sinking ship can be turned around?

  249. vegas raider Says:

    37 sacks in 438 pass attempts is pretty good, and a much better % than just about any team in the league.

    We are 8th in the league on 3rd down Defense (btw Colts were last in the league on 3rd down D). What’s with these Colts, they have the worst rushing offense, worst 3rd down defense, 24th best Run D. Do they have anything but a QB????

    I never said replacing Routt was top priority for the entire defense, I said top priority on 3RD DOWN DEFENSE, and especially 3rd and longs.

  250. severeraiderz Says:

    Some of the greatest receivers ever struggled with drops early on, like Rice, Freddy B, and Branch yet you guys wanna crucify DHB after a partial season??? Makes no sense. It’s not his fault he was drafted earlier than expected and as long as he keeps that work ethic and humble attitude I don’t mind him being on the team. The guy wants to do better and works to get better, and at this point that’s all we can really ask of him. If he is still stinking it up after year 3 let me know.

    When it comes to DMac watch we get Benson’d. The moment he goes elsewhere and is used properly in the pass game and given holes to run through he will be a beast. I just imagined shat he could do if he were playing for a team like the Texans who run block pretty well….scary. He is not getting enough passed, carries, or holes when he does have carries to get anywhere near a rythm. A healthy line and new RG and RT would do wonders for him and Bush. I also have no problems bringing back Reece and Oneal as FB and keeping G Russel as a 3rd Rb instead of Fargas.

  251. Florida Pete Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 9:21 am
    Pete youve been pissing your pants in here for a long time, that makes you an expert on that subject.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    omg !!! norco… that was hilarious !!!!

    i am rolling around on the floor and laughing my gawddammed ass off…

    man… stop it… yer killing me…

    uh…

    next case…

  252. vegas raider Says:

    We gave up 684 penalty yards on Defense last year, and I say Stanford Routt himself was good for about 120 of those at least, if not a lot more.

  253. Florida Pete Says:

    severeraiderz Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 10:34 am
    Some of the greatest receivers ever struggled with drops early on, like Rice, Freddy B, and Branch yet you guys wanna crucify DHB after a partial season??? Makes no sense. It’s not his fault he was drafted earlier than expected and as long as he keeps that work ethic and humble attitude I don’t mind him being on the team. The guy wants to do better and works to get better, and at this point that’s all we can really ask of him. If he is still stinking it up after year 3 let me know.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    DHB does not drop passes…

    in order to drop a pass… you have to catch one…

    DHB can’t catch… therefore he does not drop…

    which means that once DHB DOES learn how to catch a pass…

    getting him to not drop them will be another thing to look forward to…

  254. DKnight007 Says:

    # SouthernStyle Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 8:35 am

    When it comes to discussing scouting and drafting during team meetings it really doesn’t matter, cause Al sees their mouth moving but nothing comes out. Al will pick his guy. I won’t get pissed and throw my remote out my window this year… i’m prepared.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Yeah I get a kick out of how the old looney man Al can give and waste away big money to the likes of Juggs, DHB, J Walker, and Hall…..but not offer a head coach like Jon Gruden or Jim Harbaugh 3.5-4 million a year for 4 years with an option to be the next Raiders coach and to get this team back to respectability again??

    It baffles the mind and proves that the old mans priorities are all warped and screwed up.

    Guess that’s what happens when you part of the undead. LOL

  255. Richochet Says:

    But Petey?
    You aren’t the sharpest tack in the drawer.

    Florida Pete Says:
    August 10th, 2009 at 11:39 am
    going out on a limb…
    Crabtree will either be the biggest bust of this years 1st round crop…
    or he will not be playing football…

    ===================================
    You seem to pride yourself on blathering, then meekly accepting slapdowns.

    Is that an acquired taste?

  256. Richochet Says:

    # severeraiderz Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 10:34 am

    Some of the greatest receivers ever struggled with drops early on, like Rice, Freddy B, and Branch yet you guys wanna crucify DHB after a partial season??? Makes no sense.

    RICHOCHET: Sure it does. See, while the above dropped some balls? All of them also made amazing catches, including Rice having a 200+ yd game in his rookie season. Bey can’t catch a cold, much less a football.
    Oh wait..he did catch a cold. Scratch that.

    ##################################
    It’s not his fault he was drafted earlier than expected

    RICHOCHET: LMAO..uh..he could have been last guy picked..HE CAN’T CATCH SIMPLE BALLS THROWN IN HIS DIRECTION.
    BTW..even the late round receiver picks? The NFL pretty much expects, as a PROFESSIONAL, you should..you know…CATCH THE BALL?
    #########################
    and as long as he keeps that work ethic and humble attitude I don’t mind him being on the team.

    RICHOCHET: Wonderful. Well, hell, get back Kwame Harris, because he worked hard, and was humble as all get out.
    ##########
    When it comes to DMac watch we get Benson’d. The moment he goes elsewhere and is used properly in the pass game and given holes to run through he will be a beast.

    RICHOCHET: sorry, wrong again. He has the smallest legs in the league, except for a couple of WR’s..THAT’S NOT GOOD WHEN YOU’RE A RB. Guy gets a hand ‘brushed’ on him, and he goes down. Guy won’t ever be a beast. Impossible. He’ll be a backup, then released..because he just can’t perform.

  257. severeraiderz Says:

    Florida Pete

    he got very few passes and when it came to catchable passes even less. He had his share of drops but dropped a lower % of passes thrown to him than Murphy did. He had key drops and that will need to be fixed which us why we brought in a guy like Hue to help. DHB is a hard worker, blocks when passes are caught by teammates and in the run game. As long as he is working and making strides that’s all I care about. If after his 3rd year he still can’t get it together then I will be right with u on getting rid of him.

  258. Richochet Says:

    # DKnight007 Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 10:32 am

    Sooooo……has any major positive move occurred yet?

    Like the old man giving JIM HARBAUGH what he wants to be the head coach of the Raiders with Hue Jackson as his OC, so this sinking ship can be turned around?
    ===============================
    I’m curious.

    Why does everyone get all excited about Hue? Especially as OC?

    He went 5-11 as OC with the Redskins, and went 4-12 as the OC with the Falcons.

    Not exactly “have to have the guy” stats, is it?

  259. vegas raider Says:

    DHB seems to do everything well, except the most important part catching.

    I know a WR should be able to catch, but you have to believe his hands weren’t as bad as last year, he was an in-over-his-head rookie.

    He does block real well, especially in the run game (his block in week 2 cleared the way for Darren’s winning TD), and seems to run decent routes and is open.

    Just learn to catch (LOL) and everything will be great!!!

  260. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    DMAC is an abject failure and will NEVER be successful no matter how he is used.

    Fumbling and tackling yourself are wholly unrelated to offensive scheme.

    Trade the disgrace while he is still worth a seventh rounder.

  261. vegas raider Says:

    Since it seems we only trade with New England, and the Pats are in desperate need of a RB or two, if we did trade Darren, the Pats would be our likely trading partner.

    My guess, Al doesn’t do any trading except to trade up in this years draft.

    I can’t see Al just sitting back with two 3’s and two 5’s and just drafting players. Not happening.

  262. Richochet Says:

    Problem with Bey is he was a converted track star.
    Never grew up learning and perfecting the #1 priority, which is CATCHING THE BALL.
    #1 knock in college was he dropped or bobbled easy balls.

    And dispute all the assts. drilling him, just seems to be one of those things that will always plague him..well, at least for the next couple of years until he’s out of the league.

  263. severeraiderz Says:

    They must call u Ricochet cuz nothing u say can stick. Ok the greatest WR had a great game his rookie year how many other rookie receivers struggled??? Wr and Qb are two of the toughest positions to transition from college to the NFL, Branch dropped passes left and right and Freddy B was on the verge of getting cut before he cleaned up his act. DHB actually only dropped 6 passes all year, about 1 every other game. Rice dropped 15 as a rookie and he was catching passes from Montana.

  264. vegas raider Says:

    Barack just stopped in to do some commentary on the Duke-Georgetown game.

    Verne Lundquist asked him, “you are left-handed, but do you have any problems going to your right?”

    BO: “I showed last night that I can go to my right occassionally”

    ZINNGERRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  265. Richochet Says:

    *despite* not despute

  266. Raiders4eve Says:

    Man

    DHB sucked in college he was a raw talent all he has is speed. I posted two days back scouting report that said he is afraid of contact, we seen that this year him running out bound. They also stated that he is not aggressive or hungry enough meaning he plays soft, I remember meachem having the same problems his first year now dores DHB have Brees as a QB? No, unless he goes to a guy like Tim Brown or J Rice he won’t know what Wrs mean, I agree with Richochet dude was a track star not a football player he gotta want success demand the ball become arogant Wrs otherwise he will get punked fromeveryone including Murphy who will demand the ball
    more.

  267. Florida Pete Says:

    Richochet Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 10:48 am
    But Petey?
    You aren’t the sharpest tack in the drawer.

    Florida Pete Says:
    August 10th, 2009 at 11:39 am
    going out on a limb…
    Crabtree will either be the biggest bust of this years 1st round crop…
    or he will not be playing football…

    ===================================
    You seem to pride yourself on blathering, then meekly accepting slapdowns.

    Is that an acquired taste?

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    strap-on !!! how is my little, manic, obsessive, complusive, speed-typing, stalking, little buddy ???

    i have to admit… i don’t know whether i should be double bolting the doors and getting perimeter lighting…

    or just laugh my ass off at the amount of time anyone would spend looking up an old quote…

    scary schit, yes ???

  268. DKnight007 Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 11:02 am

    # DKnight007 Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 10:32 am

    Sooooo……has any major positive move occurred yet?

    Like the old man giving JIM HARBAUGH what he wants to be the head coach of the Raiders with Hue Jackson as his OC, so this sinking ship can be turned around?
    ===============================
    I’m curious.

    Why does everyone get all excited about Hue? Especially as OC?

    He went 5-11 as OC with the Redskins, and went 4-12 as the OC with the Falcons.

    Not exactly “have to have the guy” stats, is it?

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    I’m not that excited about Hue as an OC, but we can only hope that he has learned more as a play caller since his first two stints as an OC.

    If JIM HARBAUGH were hired as Head Coach, then I would be pumped…..other than that….this franchise and team still have a ways to go to turn the ship around.

    I think with Hue as OC, he will get the running game going and implement the type of blocking schemes used in B-More.

    Basically NOTHING has been done to make me want to rush out and waste my money, time and energy on buying Season Tickets thats for sure.

  269. Richochet Says:

    # severeraiderz Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 11:28 am

    They must call u Ricochet cuz nothing u say can stick. Ok the greatest WR had a great game his rookie year how many other rookie receivers struggled??? Wr and Qb are two of the toughest positions to transition from college to the NFL, Branch dropped passes left and right and Freddy B was on the verge of getting cut before he cleaned up his act. DHB actually only dropped 6 passes all year, about 1 every other game. Rice dropped 15 as a rookie and he was catching passes from Montana.
    ======================
    Oh geez..another challenged poster.
    Are you actually comparing arguably one of the biggest busts of last year with Rice?

    Yeah, Bey dropped 6…ONLY CAUGHT 9 ALL YEAR. 124 yds..FOR THE YEAR.

    Rice had 49 receptions, over 900 yds. and won OFFENSIVE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR.

    It’s asinine to state “well, so and so struggled when they started”. What the hell does that have to do with anyone else?
    Same idiots ran the “Well, in his first year Elway and Manning had bad stats like JR”..running the “So JR COULD turn out just like them”..just like you’re running with Bey.

    Bey sucks, plain and simple. You stating “Oh..gosh..let’s give him 3 years..THEN I’LL ADMIT HE SUCKS” makes you slow as hell.

  270. Richochet Says:

    Petey, petey, petey, ..you’re showing your age, and ignorance.
    “amount of time”??
    Took less time to find that then it did to type this, foolish old man.
    Guess you’ve not perfected the fine art of ctrl-f.

    Oh..wait..you’re a gardener.
    My bad.

    Hey…I know…considering how badly you torched that idiot take, how about you explain away this one??

    # Florida Pete Says:
    January 21st, 2010 at 11:31 am
    all this goofy crap about firing a Head Coach before looking for a new one is just plain stupid…
    in every other business… you have a replacement ready BEFORE you pull the trigger on firing a key manager…
    not after…
    ===================
    Thanks for proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that you not only know squat, but that you’re a freaking idiot…
    WRONG, DUMBASS..that is NOT how it’s done.

    I can name you HUNDREDS OF INSTANCES WHERE SOMEONE GOT FIRED/CANNED/RELEASED..where the interviewing process THEN STARTED.

    Who in the hell goes out and publicly INTERVIEWS..solicits applications…WHEN THE PERSON THEY’RE GOING TO REPLACE IS STILL ON THE JOB???
    Boss: “Hi..oh..psst?? I’m going to fire Joebob over there…so I’m interviewing everyone before I can him…try to avoid eye contact with the other employees..don’t want them getting wind of it”
    OR “Let’s keep this hush hush..don’t want it out..because, after all, interviewing while the guy is still on the job is about as sorryass tacky as you can get”????
    YOU’RE A FREAKING IDIOT, FLORIDAPETEY.
    NO ONE does it the way you said..just shows how little you know about business

  271. Richochet Says:

    BTW..Petey? Look at the times between posts..4 minutes..that was typing that up, getting a cup of coffee, ctrl-f your silly post, and posting it.

    See Florida Gardener?

    Easy..unless..well…unless it’s you.

  272. Richochet Says:

    Raiders4eve is right..Bey is afraid of contact..that momentary flinch and tightening up as you go into traffic.

    Anyone remember the last speed demon in the same situation?

    Track star. “Fastest man in America”..won a “Battle of the Stars” that Dwight Clark was in, who got him a tryout with the Niners, and made the team.

    Reynaldo Nehemiah, like Bey, was a track star, fast as hell, and couldn’t catch the ball.

    Like Nehemiah and the Niners, Bey will suffer the same fate.

    If you didn’t grow up, going across the middle, or being exposed to hits, trying to learn that as an adult is damn near impossible for some.

  273. Florida Pete Says:

    Richochet Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
    BTW..Petey? Look at the times between posts..4 minutes..that was typing that up, getting a cup of coffee, ctrl-f your silly post, and posting it.

    See Florida Gardener?

    Easy..unless..well…unless it’s you.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    i never denied, nor has anyone here denied that you are one seriously main little turd…

    no-one can take that away from you…

    and, honestly, i don’t think anyone wants to…

    you’re like the loveable little puppy that can’t stop peeing on the carpet, humping people’s legs… and generally making a nuisance of yourself…

    but you are OUR little, obsessive, compulsive, manic, speed-typing, twerp…

    and for that reason we tolerate you…

    as for gardening… it’s honest, calming work…

    something you should consider…

    as for everything else… you have a lot to learn…

  274. Richochet Says:

    I’m sorry, Gardener Petey, what was your excuse for you complete head up ass comment about how ALL GOOD MANAGERS ALWAYS INTERVIEW AND HIRE SOMEONE’S REPLACEMENT BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY FIRE THE GUY?

    Was it just a ’stupid head up ass’ moment, or are you honestly that freaking stupid, and void of business sense that you truly believe that?

    Was the dumbest thing I’ve seen anyone post on these boards, and yet you honestly believed it?

    Yes, LMFAO at you.

    BTW..don’t get me wrong. World needs gardeners. After all, who would pull the weeds in my yard if not for guys like you? Congrats on finding something that doesn’t confuse you.

  275. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Richochet Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 11:31 am
    *despite* not despute
    —————————-
    Hey Pumpkin, you’re cute as a peanut when you correct typos that nobody read in the first place.

    Do you spend half the day researching everybody’s comments and then the other half trying to throw out your Jim-Rome-wannabe “takes” that everybody stopped reading months ago?

  276. lefty12 Says:

    DKnight-according to you guys now that Hue has been hired as OC and will implement his own scheme,blocking system,etc. and will only answer to the old man,why do you care who the HC is.According to some of you the HC won’t be doing anything.

  277. Richochet Says:

    # Random Drug Tester Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    Richochet Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 11:31 am
    *despite* not despute
    —————————-
    Hey Pumpkin, you’re cute as a peanut when you correct typos that nobody read in the first place.

    Do you spend half the day researching everybody’s comments and then the other half trying to throw out your Jim-Rome-wannabe “takes” that everybody stopped reading months ago?
    ===============
    Oh geez, lol.

    Uh..dumbass? You so stupid you don’t know you just contradicted your sorryass?

    YOU READ IT..then stated no one reads it? Slap a DUH on your forehead, and wondering how many times you were dropped as an infant.

    Then comment on something I said, referencing Jim Rome, of all sorry sources, while, AGAIN, stating “no one reads”??

    UH…crappola for brains? How..uh..exactly would you associate my comment IF YOU DIDN’T READ IT?

    See? it’s not just that you appear stupid..it’s that you SCREAM stupid.

    And geez..thanks for proving you are a flea. Who the hell listens to Rome? Is there anyone more brain dead than Rome? I mean..besides those of you that listen to him?

    Now shut up before you hurt yourself.

  278. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    276.lefty12 Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
    DKnight-according to you guys now that Hue has been hired as OC and will implement his own scheme,blocking system,etc. and will only answer to the old man,why do you care who the HC is.According to some of you the HC won’t be doing anything.
    =======================================================
    Actually, I have a glimmer of hope in this year’s Raiders because I have full belief that Hue Jackson will run the offense with little interference from Cable. Jackson will hopefully choose the starting lineup…of course with inflluence for Davis….but then again Jackson had options…so he knows what he’s getting into and I believe he wants to succeed.

    Jackson was a surprising hire. Let’s hope Davis lets him do his job.

    Especially when it comes to JaDavis

  279. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Richochet Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 11:31 am
    *despite* not despute
    —————————-
    Sorry only read posts from you this size or less after being bored to tears with your other repetitive, mile-long, cut-n-paste, self-indulgent, tributes to a long dead fad made famous by Jim Rome.

    If you’ve read one of your posts, you’ve read them all.

  280. Florida Pete Says:

    Richochet Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
    I’m sorry, Gardener Petey, what was your excuse for you complete head up ass comment about how ALL GOOD MANAGERS ALWAYS INTERVIEW AND HIRE SOMEONE’S REPLACEMENT BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY FIRE THE GUY?

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    i never said that you fukking idiot…

    i’m done with you…

    piss on someone else’s leg, you fukking moron…

    if i get banned for this, i won’t care…

    but you one seriously delusional ridiculous stupid fukking aszhole…

  281. Richochet Says:

    LMFAO…awww…Petey? You ok, peaches? Looks like you just blew a head gasket?

    Actually…YOU DID SAY THAT.
    See? All that fertilizer you’re snorting is messing up the cranium.

    Here…YOUR COMMENT.

    # Florida Pete Says:
    January 21st, 2010 at 11:31 am
    all this goofy crap about firing a Head Coach before looking for a new one is just plain stupid…
    in every other business… you have a replacement ready BEFORE you pull the trigger on firing a key manager…
    not after…

    ————————-
    I guess I should believe you, and not my lying eyes..but hey, let’s opt for the “RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME” angle..just for fun.

    Oh..and OF COURSE YOU’RE DONE, lol…I guaranteed that, didn’t I?
    In other words, you’re toast.

    As if their was any other option for ya.

    Here’s some advice for you. Stick to gardening takes. Stick to hypothetical comments, such as ‘who we should draft’. Those are safe. No credibility required.

    Quite simple..even for the simple minded.

    Oh..have to ask..you’re uh…not crying, are you?

  282. Richochet Says:

    # Random Drug Tester Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    Richochet Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 11:31 am
    *despite* not despute
    —————————-
    Sorry only read posts from you this size or less after being bored to tears with your other repetitive, mile-long, cut-n-paste, self-indulgent, tributes to a long dead fad made famous by Jim Rome.

    If you’ve read one of your posts, you’ve read them all.
    ===================
    Odd.
    With the exception of YOU just posting to me..I can’t say I’ve ever read anything you posted.
    Can’t recall you even being a poster here…although..I suspect you are.
    Maybe it’s that you just don’t ever say anything?

    However, gosh..thanks for stating that you have, over and over, read my comments.

    “long dead fad made famous by Rome”?? lol…what the hell are you babbling about?

    See..like I said, I don’t listen to the tool. Never met a single person who quoted or referenced Rome who was a little sorry puppet who felt “in” somehow by being one of his followers..There is a name for his weak minded followers..which escapes me..but I’m sure you proudly claim to be one.
    Hell, you know exactly of his M.O. so save the excuses that you’re not.

    You may go now.

  283. DKnight007 Says:

    Yeah wake me up fellas when something OVERWHELMINGLY POSITIVE happens that will make me want to rush out and waste my money, time and energy on buying Season Tickets.

    So far nothing has got me pumped up and excited about this organization and team as of yet.

  284. DKnight007 Says:

    Just heard some guy on the radio on 860AM….that was saying he has heard that Juggs Russell is working out in Phoenix right now with the same peeps who tried to get him in shape before the whole draft process.

    Don’t know if true or not.

    For Juggs Russells sake…he damn well better be working out hard now and getting in the best shape of his life before OTA’s and Spring Mini Camp.

  285. MTraidernation Says:

    i’m not ready to give up on DHB. i’ve ripped him before, but then realized Russell would make Jerry Rice seem average. if he’s the fastest guy on the field, he better start using his wheels. right now he’s a one-route-runner who can’t catch. pick one.

  286. r8eray Says:

    My two cents!

  287. Thec07 Says:

    BRL needs to come into camp weighing 245 lbs….

  288. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Richochet Says:
    ——————-
    *yawn*

  289. Thec07 Says:

    DHB , Needs to purchase a juggs machine for his baackyard,and spend 10 hours a day in front of it…

  290. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Go Javier Arenas!

  291. Nnamdi21 Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
    Just heard some guy on the radio on 860AM….that was saying he has heard that Juggs Russell is working out in Phoenix right now with the same peeps who tried to get him in shape before the whole draft process.

    =============================

    We were talking about this a few days a go. API is a world class Olympian training facility. Lets hope he’s dedicated and kickin azz…

  292. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Loved the Nnamdi / Mike Irvin interview thing on NFLN yesterday. They stand Nnams and Irvin side by side to compare size and Irvin says “See? Pretty much the same.” and Nnamdi says “You can clearly see I TOWER over him.”

    Nnams showed us the “Skippin all the way to the bank” signature Dieon TD dance too. Wish we could see Aso do that lot in the season…

  293. Frank YoooooooLLL Says:

    I was reading all your nonsense, but Im leaving before I get stuck in the glue……………

  294. buckeyeraider Says:

    Nmamdi21,
    If that is true and Russell is indeed in AZ training, and getting in shape, that is great news. I was concerned with the way the offseason started with him reportedly blowing off the last meeting for Vegas. As much as Priest, myself, and a few dwindeling supporters can hope, and wish that he takes his job seriously, only HE can do it if HE really wants it. It would be a great sign to his teammates and the organization if he showed up about 20 lbs. lighter and ready to work this offseason, and get his career back on track.

  295. buckeyeraider Says:

    I think one of Russell’s biggest problems is that since peewee football, through high school, and even in college, he was probably always bigger and stronger than everybody else, and success came easy to him. Then he got to the pros, and these are grown men. This is their livelihood. You have to be willing to outwork them, everyday, in film study and extra practice. If you’re not willing to do this you will jeapordise your own success,and therefore your teammates. Hopefully, last seasons debacle was a slap in the face, and a real eye opener for Jamarcus.

  296. buckeyeraider Says:

    Haven’t watched the whole recording yet, but what I saw of the senior bowl earlier, that guard from Idaho looked to be struggling at the senior bowl today. I saw him give up a sack, and really struggle to hold his ground against the pass rush. Didn’t get to see him run block in the couple of series I watched. Any thoughts on today’s game? Never saw Tebow.

  297. buckeyeraider Says:

    Where the hell is everybody? Did my rambling posts run everybody off? Is it just dinner time in Cali? WTF?

  298. Mistabr0wn Says:

    This individual should be banned ASAP.

    _______

    # Florida Pete Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 12:50 pm

    i never said that you fukking idiot…

    i’m done with you…

    piss on someone else’s leg, you fukking moron…

    if i get banned for this, i won’t care…

    but you one seriously delusional ridiculous stupid fukking aszhole…

  299. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Jerry,
    Are replacement candidates still walking by Cables office on the way to interview with AL ?

    Keep a stiff upper lip Tom it will all be over soon..

  300. Frank YoooooooLLL Says:

    Maybe someone will send Davis to the winter olympics and then make the switcha rooooooo

  301. ca1tra2 Says:

    We need to bring in some good coaches to better develop these young players on offense. A good RB coach, and WR coach… Sanjay Lal and Skipper are not getting these young players prepared.

  302. Richochet Says:

    # Mistabr0wn Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    This individual should be banned ASAP.

    _______

    Lighten up, Francis.
    It’s a football board.

    On occasion.

    I don’t think he should be banned, but I do think a tree pruning is in order.
    My fruit trees have run amok.

  303. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Mista brOwn is a French shower.

  304. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    Mista brOwn is a French shower.
    =======================================

    I always wondered what mistabrOwn actually meant. But after watching everyone wipe their asses with this turd for the last three weeks, now I know why he calls himself mistabrOwn.

  305. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Random Drug Tester Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    Richochet Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 11:31 am
    *despite* not despute
    —————————-
    Hey Pumpkin, you’re cute as a peanut when you correct typos that nobody read in the first place.

    Do you spend half the day researching everybody’s comments and then the other half trying to throw out your Jim-Rome-wannabe “takes” that everybody stopped reading months ago?
    ====================================================

    Everybody stopped reading who’s posts months ago? Does anyone even see his weak sauce drivel on this board anymore?

  306. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

  307. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Seymour whats up man?

  308. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Post 295 Buck, Look what our premere O-line produced for runners, QB’s, and opposing D-lines this year. We made the whole NFL look good at our expense. But it was JR only? Give me a break, we couldn’t even complete a slant this year becuse of pressure and and poundings on our QB’s, at least JR lasted the year….

  309. r8eray Says:

    Good Night Nation!

  310. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    nite ray

  311. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Out also, nite all

  312. buckeyeraider Says:

    It’s after midnight here in Buckeye land. Goodnight Raider Nation.

  313. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
    # Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    Mista brOwn is a French shower.
    =======================================

    I always wondered what mistabrOwn actually meant. But after watching everyone wipe their asses with this turd for the last three weeks, now I know why he calls himself mistabrOwn.

    =============================

    LMFAO!

  314. armond Says:

    if anybody saw the senior bowl today a guy that is worth looking at is brandon graham. imagine that kind of speed and power on this dline if we move seymour inside. that whole north defense was amazing but dan williams kicked much azz too.

  315. priesttj Says:

    Armond, I saw the kid Graham and totally agree I wouldn’t take at #8 but in 2nd rnd yeah. I think he is an excellent edge rusher I’m not sure he has the strength to bull ruah but he reminds me of Burgess.

    Dan Williams is as good a DT as there is in this draft he and Odrick and Lamarr from Texas. That ssenior was loaded with talent.

  316. priesttj Says:

    That senior bowl was loaded with talent.

  317. priesttj Says:

    Tim Tebow looks like garbage. IMO there isn’t a QB in this draft that can carry Russell jock. They are all mid 1st at best. Pike looks weak and will take 3-5 years to develope. Bradford might turn out to be something but he has to learn the pro-game. The rest of them are reaches in the 1st rnd.

    The best players are on the lines and at HB there are some outstanding talents at HB. I need to see Okung, but IMO Bulaga is in the top 2-3 Olineman. And the kid McClain is not as athletic as Spikes but he is every bit as good and has a ton of upside. I think by the time he is 24-5 he will be very dominant. As will Spikes.

  318. armond Says:

    priest is just like we were saying that this years dline class is much better than last years. we got some solid players like d bryant and matt shawny. i think shawny can be pretty good but this year has some special guys who can be game changers unlike last year. gliyard is the kind of wr i liked more than heybey also. alualu had a good game and weatherspoon was all over the place.

  319. armond Says:

    tebow has an awful lot of work to do. zac robinson looked good but the others didnt do much for me. ducasse put on some really good blocks punching people with ease and that front 7 for the north just dominated all game. there is no doubt that the lines are the strength of this draft. i was hoping pat angerer wouldve played this game. if there was a year to trade down to get more picks this is it. with all the depth people will be more willing to move up this year and we could still get some very good guys. i know it wont happen but we should if our top guys arent at 8.

  320. priesttj Says:

    Yeah Spoon looks to me more like a SLB or iLB on 3/4 Gilyard is a player for sure but at this point I would rather have one of the HB’s there is only maybe one WR I’d take in the 1st 2 rnds Dez Bryant. Those HB’s are outstanding I think we will take one they’re just too good to pass up.

  321. armond Says:

    dan williams might be worth that 8th pick if he continues where he left off today. cody did good but seeing them next to each other showed me alot. can u believe all the talent that was there without some of the other seniors like spikes angerer and so on? not to even mention the juniors coming out. this is a damn good draft this year. also that koa misi that they were looking at was good as well.

  322. priesttj Says:

    Armond witout a doubt there will be a dominant player at 8 this draft goes about 13 deep in top teir talent if the right guy is there we have to take him. The only way I trade down is if someone overpays for the pick. That someone might be the 49ers.

  323. djohnnyg Says:

    Has anyone looked up the stats as far as howmany times Raiders were sacked? I mean, how bad was the O line this year really? Russell was NOT under constant duress, it was just when he was, he either fumbled or threw an int. it seemed.

    To m,e the D line was the worst and needs the most help. I’m soooooo sick of being one of the worst teams against the run in the league. You’d think after 7 yrs. the Raiders would be able to fix such a glaring problem, but noooooooooooooooooo. Gimme a break! Fix this already, jeeeeez.

  324. armond Says:

    if we are going hb then gerhardt is my first choice.what i liked about the north defense is u had a bunch of high energy guys with alot of talent playing 2gether. there was no let up from any of those guys. man ill tell u that graham was outstanding today.this is why i say to move seymour inside and have him play majority snaps at dt. we will still move him up n down the line but we really need a guy on the edge with some closing speed like that.

  325. priesttj Says:

    Yeah was special but I temper it with the fact that he was going up against average OT. I would love to get film of him vs Bulaga so that I could gage both of them. A player of Graham’s talent is a definite need for us. We struggled to get to the QB this year. But I think he can be had in the 2nd if we can get a OT or MLB in the 1st. Last year we had 5 out of the 7 draftd make the 53 man roster we need the same efficiency this draft. We also had 2 undrafted players make the 53 man roster which is extraordinary.

  326. priesttj Says:

    IMO Gerhardt is one of the most underrated talents in this draft and he may last until the 3rd rnd believe it or not.

  327. armond Says:

    priest just lookin at grahams numbers he seemed to be consistant but under the radar maybe cuz of michigan falling out of the spotlight. id like to see bulaga also but im not surprised that gerhardt could slip to the 3rd with all that fb talk. i hope so cu i would definately take him. depending on what we do in free agency we might be able to go in different directions come draft day. cook is an interesting prospect at cb. i like those big and physical cbs. he is kind of in the same situation namdi was in when he came out.

  328. priesttj Says:

    who’s cook?

  329. DKnight007 Says:

    Loved seeing Iupati and Williams go at it a few times.

    Iupati handled him well in the beginning but Williams came back and made some plays and caused Iupati to hold.

    As I stated before…..I wouldn’t be surprised to see Williams being ranked higher than Cody when it is all said and done come draft day IMO.

  330. DKnight007 Says:

    # ca1tra2 Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    We need to bring in some good coaches to better develop these young players on offense. A good RB coach, and WR coach… Sanjay Lal and Skipper are not getting these young players prepared.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    I think Lal should go back to quality control coach on the offensive side and I think Skipper should be fired and Tollner should coach the WR’s.

    Tollner can teach the WR’s how to prepare and play better than Lal IMO.

  331. armond Says:

    cook is the cb from virginia they were talking about being similar to sean smith from utah last year. cook goes about 6′2 210 and can play cb and maybe fs if cb doesnt work out well but he is a pretty cb. he is probably best suited for a team that likes to play man most likely because of his size.

  332. DKnight007 Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    Armond, I saw the kid Graham and totally agree I wouldn’t take at #8 but in 2nd rnd yeah. I think he is an excellent edge rusher I’m not sure he has the strength to bull ruah but he reminds me of Burgess.

    Dan Williams is as good a DT as there is in this draft he and Odrick and Lamarr from Texas. That ssenior was loaded with talent.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Hey….I actually agree with you.

  333. DKnight007 Says:

    Graham would be a solid RDE IMO…just needs to add about 10 pounds muscle.

    Jean Pierre-Paul a junior may end up being the ideal 4-3 RDE though.

  334. priesttj Says:

    I did some research on the kid and he’s more suited for zone actually may be even a safety. He desn’t run well enough to play for us. You don’t get into our secondary with 4.5 speed you need to be sub4.4. He runs a 4.55 perfect zone guy he’s physical. Nnamdi ran a 4.3 at safety. We drafted Lester Hayes who was also 6′1″ 220 played OLB we made a corner because he ran 4.3 the rest is history.

  335. priesttj Says:

    I know guy’s are down on CJ and Routt but if you loooka round the league they’re as good a 2nd and 3rd corner as there is. CJ had a tough year. But unless we can get a guy under 4.4 forget it. Jon Holland could make the transition. He wouldn’t be the first Terry McDaniel was a WR at Tenn his soph year made the switch to DB his Jr. year.

  336. Chris in NY Says:

    Thoughts on the Senior Bowl:

    - Brandon Graham, DE, Michigan looks like a real nice player. And this wasn’t a one-game wonder situation. I’ve seen a few Mich games and he’s someone who stands out consistently. Ate the South team’s lunch today and shows a good burst, technique and was credited by the announcers as being a very stout point of attack run defender throughout his college career. Probably a mid-first rounder with a chance to climb. I wouldn’t complain if he’s our guy at No. 8 with Seymour sliding down to DT.

    - Mike Iupati, G, Idaho is someone I’ve been real high on. He’s big with long arms, quick feet and has been an excellent blocker throughout his college career. Considered possibly the best player all week at the Senior Bowl practices by some accounts. Uneven game today. I typically think it’s just talk when analysts talk about the struggles of a guy moving from LT to RT or LG to RG or whatever, but for whatever reason that’s what I saw from Iupati today. He played LG all season at Idaho. In this game when he was lined up at LG he dominated in the run game and stonewalled his man in pass protection on every play. More than once I saw him take out two defenders on running plays including the Legarratte Blount TD run which was to Iupati’s side. But at RG he didn’t look nearly as crisp with a blatant hold that wiped out a TD pass and allowing a sack from that side as well. In theory, this would be a problem for us since Gallery is entrenched at LG and Iupati would most likely slide to RG or RT. However, I still think this kid is going to be a premiere offensive lineman in the league for years to come. He probably just has to get familiar with the position switch for starters. A couple other small things he needs to work on are that he grabs defenders too much which could lead to lots of holding penalties. He needs to control his hands better. And even though he has very quick feet for a guy his size, his feet weren’t active enough today. The WAC is decent competition but I think he probably developed some bad habits because he could dominate d-linemen without having to move his feet much. But I think this is small stuff and as long as he has a good attitude good NFL coaching will have this kid ready to roll by Week 1.

    - Mardy Gilyard, WR, Cincinnati supposedly struggled this week but was easily the runner-up to Graham for the game MVP. Kid is quick but what impressed me even more are his ball skills. He caught a pair of deep balls and what really impressed me is that he didn’t tip off the CB either time that the ball was coming. He’s just looking back, looking back, looking back — and then at the last milisecond sticks his hands out and snatches the ball. This prevents the defender from getting an arm out to bat the ball away or turn and locate the pass in the air and is an extremely underrated ability.

    - The QB play was shaky at best. LeFevour had the best game of the QBs highlighted by a perfect strike on a rainbow, in-stride 40-yard TD pass to Gilyard. Zac Robinson of Oklahoma State had a few nice moments, but also had I believe a fumble and a pick. In his defense the North d-line was extremely dominant and applying lots of pressure. Tony Pike was average. Canfield from Oregon State looked rough. Tebow looked a bit sloppy: a pair of fumbles, long windup delivery, his running style won’t translate into big yards against this caliber athlete on defense. Still, it is clear that the kid is a leader. I haven’t been high on him at all but if a team could get him in Round 3 or later and let him develop for a couple of years as the backup to a vet QB I believe he could eventually be a good NFL QB.

    - Jared Odrick, DT, Penn State is a tough player. This is a guy o-linemen are going to hate to deal with. Non-stop motor. Can go through or around you. Barring injury, he’s going to be a prominent player for at least a decade.

    - Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Missouri is someone the Raiders were reportedly interested in down there. Showed great leadership as the clear leader of the North’s D and picked off a pass in addition to making some tackles. Definitely a nice player but the problem is I don’t quite see him being worth the No. 8 pick and I’d be very surprised if he’s still around when we pick in Round 2.

    A few other guys who I thought looked pretty good: Cam Thomas, DT, North Carolina. Mike Neal, DT, Purdue. Sam Young, RT, Notre Dame. Lonyae Miller, RB, Fresno State. Legarratte Blount, RB, Oregon. Koa Misi, OLB, Utah. AJ Edds, OLB, Iowa. Jacoby Ford, WR, Clemson. Tyson Alualu, DT, California. Geno Atkins, DT, Georgia. And I’m sure there were some others I just didn’t watch that closely or forgot to mention.

  337. armond Says:

    i like cj alot its routt that i want replaced. alot of people are down on cj but i didnt expect him to be a shutdown cb. its rare to have to let alone one on a team. i think cook could handle man well but if he runs a 4.5 then yeah he aint playin here. first priority is the lines and lb. i really hope oneal is good to go this year cuz we need a fb bad. i think reece can be big threat like larry centers was. if he can just be a decent blocker he might make the team.

  338. priesttj Says:

    If we can somehow get Bulaga for either OT psosition I think we’re set for starters we need depth. Mario can stay at LT and put Bulaga at RT Walker at RG and maybe in Satele’s second year under Cable he’s better. BUt that IMO solidifies the starting lineup. Then come back and get the MLB or an edge rusher which I think we desparately neeed. MLB can be gotten later. BUt if other GM’s are stupid enough to leave Gerhardt on the board until the 3rd we have to take him……….period

  339. gilbert Says:

    Hey TJ,who exactly is OUR GM? We need a GM,and we need one NOW!

  340. 4evaRaider Says:

    Morning Nation!!!!

  341. Florida Pete Says:

    .

  342. 4evaRaider Says:

    Nice post Pete….I agree

  343. jhill Says:

    Have to agree with the takes on the lines.

    The NT from NC was pretty impressive as well. Can’t recall his name, but there were so many guys like Armond and Priest were saying.

    Good breakdown Chris. I agree with you on Iupati. I’d take him at 8 without question. Williams from Tenn is another guy that stood out to me..

    I’m off LB, CB, and WR!

    Without question we need to draft an impact player on one of the lines.

  344. 4evaRaider Says:

    Lamarr Houston from Texas is a true 4-3 DT

  345. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Fix the O line.

    Get FA Chester Pitts from Houston.

    Sure he plays left gurad, but flop Gallery over to right and we’re onto somthing?

    Fix the O line.

    I didn’t want to say AND…get a new center and right tackle.

    Might find a tackle in the draft? You know, if he can run the proverbial 4.4 40…

  346. Nnamdi21 Says:

    armond Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 12:26 am
    i like cj alot its routt that i want replaced. alot of people are down on cj but i didnt expect him to be a shutdown cb. its rare to have to let alone one on a team. i think cook could handle man well but if he runs a 4.5 then yeah he aint playin here. first priority is the lines and lb. i really hope oneal is good to go this year cuz we need a fb bad. i think reece can be big threat like larry centers was. if he can just be a decent blocker he might make the team.

    ==============================

    Reece could be one to watch if he’s shown progression. Loses the handle on the ball I think…might be a ncie H back in there.

    Oren is likely not going to be able to live up to that vast potential.

    Oakland wanted to ask alot of its FBs, needing a well rounded, pass blocking, receiving second level blocker and looked to have two of the better FBs a few seasons ago with Oren and Justin Griffith (a FA this year) but then they got injured and Oaklands FB s fell off a cliff with practice squad fodder.

    FB is crucial this year. CRUCIAL. Almost as crucial as MLB and yeah, I mean that.

    You’ve got two potential stud RBs and Fargas who can chew up yards between the 20s with the best of them, but you get into goal to go and the Raiders have sucked seri-azz.

    Get a badd azz FB AND run more jumbo packages please!

    Fix the O line!

  347. jhill Says:

    Just not seeing it in CJ and Routt.

    Routt as a nickle corner is a disaster. I actually would prefer to see him start on the outside. He’s a much better player on the outside with the sideline as an ally.

    CJ seems to be better suited for the nickle role. Then again, a better pass rush and Branch knowing Marshall’s defense a bit better from a zone coverage standpoint might make CJ look a little better.

    But Routt as a nickle is something I’m not looking forward to seeing again.

  348. jhill Says:

    Houston looked good. Don’t know about him at 8, and I don’t think he lasts until round 2.

  349. jhill Says:

    Reese is an interesting guy. I like what he brings to the offense as an option in the passing game. If the guy can block at all, he’d be a real nice guy to have at FB.

  350. vegas raider Says:

    The biggest loser in yesterday’s game was Dexter McCluster.

    He looked way out of his league, fumbled, never broke a tackle, and looked very tentative returning kicks.

    Graham, Lefebvre, Gilyard all did themselves a lot of favors.

    My boy Arenas gave up the TD on a perfectly thrown pass. He was on the outside and he is better suited on the nickle. Looked sweet returning kicks, though.

    And Tebow…..YIKES!!! For a supposed big tough guy, he sure is uncomfortable in the pocker.

  351. vegas raider Says:

    I know everyone wants to draft like 5 O-lineman (joking, but only kind of) in the draft, but there is only two jobs at most available on the line.

    Henderson is the LT, at least for one more year. Same goes with Satele, and as long as Gallery is healthy he is starting at LG. RG at RT are available, and I am sure we will bring in at least one FA who will compete for one of those two jobs.

    I see a 3rd round pick on a T, and maybe a 5th or 6th for a G prospect.

  352. buckeyeraider Says:

    Good morning JHill,Nnamdi21
    Marcel Reese is an intriguing young prospect on offense, along with TE Brandon Meyers, that I would like to see more of. Reese seems like an excellent receiver from the FB position. As a rookie he won some kind of award from Lance for having an outstanding camp. As a rookie he made a nice td catch against Tenn, in the preseason. A game that was memorable for a couple of JLH brain farts in the return game. In the season finale vs. Balt., Reese made a nice catch. Almost made a great one handed catch vs tight coverage about 20 yds downfield. If he can offer anything as a blocker, he would make an outstanding outlet receiver from the FB position. A hell of a lot better than watching passes clank off of Luke Lawton’s hands.

  353. jhill Says:

    Mornin’ everyone …

  354. jhill Says:

    Vegas,

    I’d be pretty disappointed to see our first Oline pick in the 3rd rd.

  355. vegas raider Says:

    I went back last night at looked at the Jets drafts of late, since they seem to be the team du jour when it comes to the build the lines debate.

    They haven’t taken a defensive lineman in the first 3 rounds in six years. SIX YEARS!!!! I counted at least 3 LB’s.

    09: Sanchez, Shonn Greene were the first two picks
    08: Gholtson, Erik Ainge (QB), and a WR first 3 picks
    07: Revis, Harris (LB), Clowney (DB) first 3 picks and a great draft
    06: Ferguson, Kellen Clemons first two picks
    05: Traded out of the first, and in the second…a kicker!!!

    I like the Jets idea of building there lines through FA, and surrounding those vets with skilled LB’s, DB’s, and QB’s. They took a QB with one of their first 3 picks in three of the last 5 years.

    I thought it was interesting.

  356. 4evaRaider Says:

    Jhill,morning!….

    We cant afford NOT 2 take Lamarr Houston at #8.By Gawd AL drat this kid at #8!!!!

    We couldnt afford NOT 2 take Alex Mack at #7 but we did.I dont care the number,it means nothing 2me….We gotta start with the lines,I prefer the D-LINE….

    Lamarr Houston at #8…..

    Man we coulda had Mack last year.Mack and Houston woulda made a perfect starting point,imo

  357. vegas raider Says:

    I know you would JHill, I am sorry.

    But don’t discredit a 2nd or 3rd round pick on the O-line.

    You can get a legit NFL starter in those rounds for the O-line.

  358. vegas raider Says:

    Pete’s guy Dan Williams, IMO, looked way better than Cody.

    I know it is only one game, but Williams looks like he can stay on the field for a 3rd and long. Cody will never play on 3rd and longs.

  359. r8eray Says:

    Good Morning Raider Nation!!

  360. r8eray Says:

    Vegas, remember we drafted JaMarcus after ONLY ONE GAME!

  361. 4evaRaider Says:

    He did Vegas….but already at 327 and still a kid,just how big is this kid gonna get?.Alto Williams is a nose tackle and Houston has only played the 4-3 at Texas.

    If we gonna play a lot of 3-4 than Williams is our man,but if we mostly stay with a 4-3 Houston is our man.There are “some” other true DT’s

  362. vegas raider Says:

    Jhill,

    Did you see this stat that I posted yesterday?

    vegas raider Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 10:19 am
    Jets had 32 sacks on 501 pass attempts.

    Raiders had 37 sacks on 438 pass attempts, while rarely blitzing.

    Pass-rush is not an issue with this team, Stanford Routts’ weekly penalty and big play allowed were.

  363. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Vegas,

    The only spot on the line that is secure is Gallery. Henderson can always be moved to the Right Side if necessary. The Raiders lost 4 QBs in the last 4 games of the year. The QBs were getting smashed. Hopefully Hue Jackson (thank goodness for this hire) will adjust the offense to run the ball more. Regardless, every O-Line position needs an upgrade. Alex Mack last year would have been a great pick. This year, the Raiders need to take one of those tackles.

  364. Norco Bob Says:

    Good morning to all my friends in here, no better way to start a blessed day, a day of God, then to greet you all, while thinking of Jesus, on this Sabbath.

  365. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    As for the defensive line…how many years of getting pounded into fine dust do you guys have to endure to realize we have no defensive tackles. The opponent runs unobstructed through the line, the linebackers are not kept clean, and at the end of the day…the team is ranked in the 30s in run defense.

    The D-Line makes the linebackers…not the backassward way you all think. The Raiders need D-Tackles….forget about rushing the passer…that won’t change until the scheme changes…get DTs that clog the middle, get a bull rush, and command double teams so that the linebackers can fly around

    Fix the lines first….as for free agency…I would rather go to free agency to get a Nickle Corner or linebacker.

  366. buckeyeraider Says:

    The good news for the Raiders is that this years draft seems deep in two of their biggest areas of Need, OL and DT. The right side of the OL needs rebuilt, and a young DT to add to the rotations is needed. I still think their biggest priority ought to be a true run stuffing MLB. I like capt. Kirk, just not in the middle; doesn’t clog the running lanes, not physical enough to take on blocks, over pursues. A Beast like McClain or even Spikes would be a huge upgrade. IMO. With those extra picks Al has some ammunition to move around and hopefully pick up a few quality starters. Upgrade the line of scrimmage, where football games are won and lost.

  367. jhill Says:

    Vegas,

    I liked the way we attacked the Oline, especially later in the year. But CJ was already battling injuries by then.

    I’d prefer to see CJ on the inside and Routt on the outside if Routt has to stay.

  368. 4evaRaider Says:

    This is a sabbath?

  369. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Buckeyeraider,

    Kirk may indeed need to be replaced. But not before Gerard Warren. The Raiders have no run stopping DT up the middle. If they move Seymour, then the DE becomes an issue again.

    Leave Seymour outside and draft a run stopping DT ASAP. I would get the Williams kid from Tennessee, yes, at #8. Like 4eva reminds us, everyone complained about reaching for Mack last year…well…we took another freekn skill position player at 8 that was outperformed by a guy taken in the 4th round.

    Meanwhile, Mack was a machine, as we saw upfront. D-Line before linebackers….Guards and Tackles before Receivers and Running Backs

  370. jhill Says:

    Still disagree SnB …

    I think this year’s run defense was MUCH better than the past few years. We both reference the NFLN, right? That show playbook really pointed out a lot of our problems against the run and it WAS the LBs. It was more of our LBs not staying in their gap that gave up the big run. We were not gashed for the 5 to 6 yd runs every play that we have in the past.

    Matter of factly, the last playbook we saw was the coaches putting Morrison on blast when Rice broke that play to the outside. “I just don’t know what Morrison was doing there!” How many times have we said that?

    With that said, I’d go impact DT with Williams in this draft over McClain or Spikes.

  371. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    We also don’t need another pass rusher. The pass rush is dictatated by the D-Coordinator having the backbone to call his own game and not be overly influenced by the General Manager on game day.

    This team needs a LINE CLOGGING DT and an OT that doesn’t hold, false start or get overwhelmed

  372. Norco Bob Says:

    As long as Russell never plays, the Raiders have a chance at success.

  373. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    All BSJ wants for his birthday (today) is for…

    wait for it…

  374. buckeyeraider Says:

    Gerard Warren frustrates the hell out of me. There are times when he looks unblockable He can be so quick off the snap, into the backfield wreaking havoc, that you can see why he was the third overall pick in the draft. But, he comes from that Warren Sapp school of football, where if he accidentaly tackles a rb on the way to the QB, so be it. The run d suffers because of it. If he would restructure his contract and accept a reduced role of third down pass rush specialist, while being replace with a young , run stuffing slab of beef on early downs, that would be ideal. Don’t know if he’d be willing to do it however.

  375. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    THAT BUST DMAC TO BE TRADED!

  376. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Good Morning Nation, The Only Nation.

    With the Jackson hiring does this mean we will run his style of offense? or will we still be zone blocking with Cable’s style. If Jackson has the green light then all is good to allow him to draft who he feels helps his style of offense. If cable will still be in charge of his personel moves then why waist a pick on an O-Lineman in the first there are not any zone blockers in the first. I also think that we need a true fullback that was one of our biggest weaknesses this last season. Getting McFadden moved around with Bush in the backfield would look awesome from a strategic standpoint. Running the ball from a spread out type offense from time to time would keep the defense honest.

  377. jhill Says:

    I think that with Scott moving to OLB, and the cast we have to audition for the other 2 positions, I think we pass on LB this year. Morrison, Brown, Norris, Nixon, and Williams will all fight it out for the other 2 spots.

    I for one want to see Warren and Kelly back. Add Williams to that mix along with Bryant and that is a NICE group of DTs!

  378. Norco Bob Says:

    My friends and I always spend a day in Napa, hang around the Marriott pool getting drunk seeing alot of legends, players, Raider staff,…this year when we see Russell, we will boo,..might as well start early, why wait til the games begin?…I wonder if hes ever been boo`d in a hotel lobby?

  379. jhill Says:

    Gerrard Warren is CONSTANTLY doubled. Does he plow that double? Not often, but the fact that he is taking up 2 blockers, he’s doing his job. Teams don’t double team slouches.

  380. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    JHill,

    The run defense gives up 155 yds per gm on the ground. Admittedly, back linebacking play certainly helps get you there, but we also know that teams have as a strategy to run right at the Raiders. They do that because they know this team is weak up the middle.

    Look at the Vikings. Decent LB in EJ Henderson…but boss DTs upfront.

    Packers were #1 in run defense…boss D-Line

    Pittsburgh, Dallas…same thing…

    A consistent theme of the top run defenses is strong DT play.

    THe Raiders keep believing that GErard wArren, Tommy Kelly and guys like TErdell Sands are good enough to get buy…..

    I am all about fixing the entire team. I just think you start upfront first.

  381. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:37 am
    My friends and I always spend a day in Napa, hang around the Marriott pool getting drunk seeing alot of legends, players, Raider staff,…this year when we see Russell, we will boo,..might as well start early, why wait til the games begin?…I wonder if hes ever been boo`d in a hotel lobby?
    =======================================================
    I thought you were in it just to enjoy friends, food and that other stuff.

    Why boo? Its not JaDavis’ fault that Al forces him in the lineup.

  382. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Happy Birthday BSJ,

    If we are going to trade underproductive players, we would be left without a team lol.
    The team as a whole underproduced from top to bottom. The defense allowed to many big plays wiht no gap control and poor tackling, the O-Line wow enough said there they flat out sucked, the QB play wow our only healthy QB was Jmac so that says alot, and coaching was by far the biggest area of concern and yet Cable is still here.
    This to me is freakin annoying that he remains on the staff, he is by far the one top blame for our collapse. He held vendettas with players (Michael Bush, Jmac) placing blame instead of accepting his responsability until the end of the year. Not allowing our best RB to play cause he hurt his feelings by wanting Gillbride. Not to mention the freakin off week for players to relearn what they knew “how to miss tackles” what a waist of time.

  383. vegas raider Says:

    SnB,

    All these great teams at stopping the run, who do they have in the middle? Not high draft picks.

    The Ravens have first rounds picks at LB, and a 6th round pick Kelly Gregg in the middle. Jets have first round picks at LB, and FA’s in the middle. Cowboys have a 7th round pick who dominates the middle. There are some teams with first rounders in the middle (Vikings, Steelers), but they seem to be the exception not the rule.

    Our D-line needs one big improvement, and that is Warren. But of all our D-linemean, HE WAS THE ONE DRAFTED THE HIGHEST.

    Seymour would start and be the best if not 2nd best D-lineman on any team in the league. Ellis is very stout against the run and a former Pro-Bowler. TK always finishes in the top 5 in tackles and tackles for lossed for D-lineman (not saying he is a top 5 DT, but those numbers have to prove he is at the least average).

    We need LB’s. Just about every good D in this league has 1st rounders at LB. We have 3rd and 6th rounders. This has to change.

  384. jhill Says:

    SnB,

    Who was the fat guy on Wauffle’s Dlines? I don’t think there was one. Hell, even Justin Tuck was playing DT. was he even 300lbs?

  385. Norco Bob Says:

    If Davis wore the uniform I would boo him too,..not into booing a jump suit,..and besides that, Russell is such a disrespectful prick, he and his posse, they deserve it,…Davis drafted the guy, paid him, unsure why I would boo him for that,..there are reasons to boo him, none related to Russell though,..I guess I could boo him for drafting russell,..ok,.ya,..youre right,..I will boo Davis for that.

  386. Norco Bob Says:

    And yes we do just go there for fun, drink, get high,..bbq,..but booing is also fun….we actually havent boo`d the opposing team for a few years now, just our own,..rather funny when you think about it.

  387. vegas raider Says:

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:39 am

    Look at the Vikings. Decent LB in EJ Henderson…but boss DTs upfront.

    Packers were #1 in run defense…boss D-Line

    Pittsburgh, Dallas…same thing…

    ******************************

    Look at those teams investment in their LB’s. Tons of 1st and 2nd round picks. The Packers start 2 first-rounders of the 4 LB’s (Hawk-Matthews) and Barnett is a former Pro-Bowler.

    We need to invest in LB’s, and add a veteran DT, and get a freaking better offense.

    Colts were last in rushing offense, last in 3rd down defense, and 3 slots ahead of us in Run D. They are about to win the Super Bowl.

  388. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    r8dr4lfe21 Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:42 am
    Happy Birthday BSJ,

    If we are going to trade underproductive players, we would be left without a team lol

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    How true. Thanks for ruining my special day lol.

  389. buckeyeraider Says:

    JHill,
    You say Warren does his job, drawing constant double teams, and you are fine with our returning crop of LB’s. Somebody on here posted last night that TKelly is always among the top five for tackles among interior lineman, and he is certainly paid top 5 money. The ends are pro bowl caliber Seymoure and Ellis. I like our trio of young safeties. But, there is a problem somewhere in the run D, it’s constantly in the bottom of the league, damn near last, and they give up too many huge running play. It needs fixed, somehow, someway. The sooner the better.

  390. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    LB’s are the greatest need for our D. Our LB’s take wrong angles and cannot fight off a block from a fullback. They also bite big time on play action and get caught creeping up on run plays. That is why we blitz them instead of getting them exposed just blitz them and see what happens. Our D line is not all that bad it’s who is behind them that suck starting with the LB’s. When Mitchelle was in the game playing the run we did great, he has the hard hitting and LB mentality to play there, and if he gets caught biting on play action he has the speed to make up for it.

  391. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:47 am
    And yes we do just go there for fun, drink, get high,..bbq,..but booing is also fun….we actually havent boo`d the opposing team for a few years now, just our own,..rather funny when you think about it.

    —————————————-

    This really sums up what a waist of space you and your friends are. Sorry for being so harsh but wow getting high and drunk to boo millionaires that they care about you booing them. They should turn and boo you right back, it is warranted then.

  392. vegas raider Says:

    We do have to fix the O-line and improve the D-line, no doubt whatsoever.

    But if you think we draft a couple of guys for those units this year, and Morrison is all of sudden going to start shedding blocks and stop taking bad angles, that Jamarcus will stop overthrowing guys, that Routt will be a good nickle corner, and that it won’t matter that we can’t return a kick past the 20, YOU ARE CRAZY!!!

  393. jhill Says:

    I wouldn’t say I’m fine with our LBs. I’m just saying that I think Ricky Brown, Kirk Morrison, Nixon, and Norris will all get a chance to fill those open spots. Ricky Brown is without question in the plan.

    Again, don’t really agree with it, but it is what it is.

  394. 4evaRaider Says:

    Happy B-Day Bo….

    Your blow-up Dmac doll is on the wayyy!!!!!!!!!!!

  395. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Why not move Scott to MLB he is big enough to shed the blocks and plug the gap. Move Kirk to the outside where his speed will benifit him best.

  396. 4evaRaider Says:

    No offense Bo but I just saw in the morning paper that people can actually buy 5′ inflatable football players no schit ;]

  397. Norco Bob Says:

    I guess we shouldnt boo,..maybe we should cheer more,..when they are fumbling, throwin pics,…letting bench warmer running backs run for 200 yards ya youre right, what were we thinking?

  398. Chris in NY Says:

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:28 am
    We also don’t need another pass rusher. The pass rush is dictatated by the D-Coordinator having the backbone to call his own game and not be overly influenced by the General Manager on game day.

    ———————-

    Agree about the d-coordinator needing to mix it up and blitz, disagree about the need for another pass rusher. Aside from a good QB, an elite pass rushing DE might be the most valuable piece on a football team. Seymour isn’t really a pass rusher, more of a collapse the pocket guy. Shaughnessy looked pretty good but he’s not Jared Allen or Dwight Freeny. Trevor Scott can find his way to the QB at times in stunts and blitzes but gets stonewalled and applies Zero pressure too often. We have some guys with potential but I think we’re far from loaded with pass rushers.

    The run D is a tough issue to figure out. At times these guys look great stuffing the run. Seriously. But then every single game an RB will break off 1 or 2 40-yard runs. That’s unacceptable. It makes our mean run defense average terrible, but I bet our median average isn’t that bad. It’s these big plays that kill it. Not sure how to fix that and I don’t think the coaches and players do either.

  399. Raider O Says:

    Good morning Nation.

    Weatherspoon looks like he can play both ILB & OLB. He is 6′1 240+, and runs a 4.5!! We know Al thinks he will be a great player. A few reportts showthat our scouts had interest in him.
    He is rated as a low 1st early 2nd!
    Ummm, I think Al is going to reach again!!

  400. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Norco,
    booing is a waisted emotion, cheering your team when they are done on themselves or making a bad play is what makes us die hard fans. Not fairweathered fans that only stick by you when you are winning.

  401. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Vegas,

    When your offense has Peyton Manning and puts up 30 a game…then you don’t need run defense.

    the Raiders WILL NEVER get to that level of offensive efficiency as long as Al Davis runs the drafts, free agency etc…so the better bet is to shore up the defense so that we can keep the score low and compete.

    When the Strong Safety is #2 in team tackles….that means way too many running backs getting through the front 7.

    Teams elect to run on us because they know the DTs are soft up the middle and that Kirk Morrison can’t get it done.

    So the 1st round should go O-Line / D-Line….2nd round goes to linebacker. Again, we can hopefully agree that Warren and Kelly ain’t it…I also acknowledge that Morrison ain’t it….so let’s build INSIDE OUT!

    Why do the Raiders keep trying to build the other way? Its been an abject failure.

    We haven’t stopped the run since Sam Adams & Ted Washington

  402. Norco Bob Says:

    r8d,..speak for yourself bud,..we go to every game,..do you?…Iv heard players say in post game interviews they would boo what they saw too,..stop being such a biitch dude.

  403. Raider O Says:

    O Mock Draft 4.0:

    1- OT B Campbell
    2- LB Weatherspoon
    3- DT Cam Thomas
    3- DE Austen Lane
    4- ILB Micah Johnson
    5- CB Walter Thurmond
    5- PR/ KR Leroy Vann

  404. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Chris in NY,

    When we start having to find the median yards per game on the run defense to justify this roster…..that just means it needs to be fixed.

    I say D-Line….but ultimately Al Davis will pick who he wants and that will most likely be Taylor Mays or Hayden or Arelius….

    Al Davis, like many of you, believe that speed and athleticsm in BACK 7 leads to championship defense

  405. Chris in NY Says:

    Julius Peppers could be available this off-season. Not saying we should throw the bank at him, but if you looked at the money we’d save from dumping JaMarcus ($6.5 mil difference between guaranteed money and 2010 salary) and parting with Fargas (who makes around $6 mil I believe) we wouldn’t be all that far off.

  406. Norco Bob Says:

    R8d,..O is here, talk to him, he wears a dress like you,..I see a great friendship with you two.

  407. Raider O Says:

    I think Al may like my 1st 4 picks:

    1- OT 6′7 310, and runs a syb 4.9
    2- LB 6′1 240, long arms, strong back, big hands, and runs a 4.5.
    3- DT 6′4 330, runs a 5.0 40
    3- DE 6′6 270, 33″ arms, big hands, and runs a 4.6 40

    Do it Al!!!!

  408. Raider O Says:

    Ricky Bobby,

    It’s called a KILT you ignorant Bastard. lol

  409. vegas raider Says:

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 9:04 am

    We haven’t stopped the run since Sam Adams & Ted Washington

    *******************************

    I would welcome the idea of picking up a veteran proven run-stuffer.

    With the draft, I like the value approach. More than likely, at #8 if we draft a LT or DT, it will be the 3rd rated DT, and at least #2 OT if not 3 or 4.

    If McClain is on the board, the #1 rated LB is available. That’s all I’m saying.

    And obviously, if they pick up a vet MLB, than that whole point is moot. Morrison just isn’t it, he may not get dealt the best hand, but he makes plenty of his own mistakes and always disappears when we need him most.

    I know you agree with that.

  410. buckeyeraider Says:

    Chris in NY,
    You’re right, and it’s frustrating. You can see the potential is there to be a good defense. The Raiders had 11 tackles for a loss vs. Bengals. Had a ton vs. Browns also. The Raiders will be stout over and over, no gain, no gain, two yard loss, and then boom.. get hit for a forty yard run. I think it’s mainly the linebackers (Morrison) not holding to their gap responsibility, and getting gashed for big runs. LT does it to the Raiders all the time. They will hold him to about two yards per carry the whole game, and then boom he’ll break off a 60 yard TD run. After the game boomer and TJ will be talking on BSPN about LT owning the Raiders again, when 90% of the game he couldn’t do squat.

  411. jhill Says:

    I agree with your point of #1 player at a position vs #3 person at another position. But this is not like #3WR DHB vs #1WR Crabtree. In this case Iupati could be just as good as Okung. And Williams could be as good as Suh and McCoy. Or at least not that far from them.

  412. jhill Says:

    The Raiders had 11 tackles for a loss vs. Bengals. Had a ton vs. Browns also. The Raiders will be stout over and over, no gain, no gain, two yard loss, and then boom.. get hit for a forty yard run.

    ——————————————————-

    Exactly!

  413. vegas raider Says:

    Iupati=Okung or B Williams I can give you that. Although I do worry about the transition from the Idaho Vandals to the NFL. And do you draft a guard at #8, when you can get a pretty good G in the 3rd, and the dropoff from a McClain to a 3rd LB is much more dramatic?

    We shall see…..

  414. jhill Says:

    I agree with Lefty regarding the importance of the C and G position. And with Satele not being quite as stout as we hoped, yeah I’d take arguably the best Olinemen in the draft and put him right next to Satele. Gallery, Satele, and Iupati would mean a lot more convered 3rd and 2’s, and goal line scores up the middle.

  415. jhill Says:

    Vegas,

    I think the LB play settled down a lot after Scott was moved to the strong side. Moving Howard away from the TE and allowing him to play uncovered was huge. I think I give Kirk somewhat of a pass playing with a dislocated elbow. Just really interested to see this defense under Marshall in year 2. I also think that Ricky Brown, Dixon, and Norris are going to get every opportunity to shine.

  416. jhill Says:

    I guess what I’m saying is I just don’t see Al passing on Maulauga and Cushing last year, and drafting a LB this year. I’ve already had that bubble deflated.

  417. jhill Says:

    So Russell has a posse?

    Who is the clown is charge of the workplace that allows bring a friend day?

    Really easy to point to the sign that say employees only!

  418. Midwest Fan Says:

    Good morning Nation.

    Weatherspoon looks like he can play both ILB & OLB. He is 6′1 240+, and runs a 4.5!! We know Al thinks he will be a great player. A few reportts showthat our scouts had interest in him.
    He is rated as a low 1st early 2nd!
    Ummm, I think Al is going to reach again!!
    ————–

    I was just thinking the same thing. I guess he was motivating the entire North team before the game. I guess there are worse avenues to take.

  419. Norco Bob Says:

    Damn,…3 months of draft talk,..even old kells cutting and pasting useless info, and his hatred for white men is better then that,..sorry I didnt apreciate you more old kell.

  420. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    I only saw a couple of highlites of the Sr. Bowl on the local news. One of which featured a kid who played safety on that semi-pro team based in L.A., making an interception. Taylor something or another is the kids name. I hear he’s like 6-4, 235-240, and runs like the wind.

    I venture to guess that Al will watch that play on a continouus loop, with a fresh bundle of drool towels at the ready….

  421. Seymour Bush Says:

    Nice Senior Bowl yesterday. I could echo the same sentiment as you guys, ie Brandon Graham just raised his value, but the guys I wanted to see were guys like Ducasse and Iupati. As Vegas Raider said, you wanted to see how these guys did against a major jump in competition. Both did extremely well in my mind. Ducasse I really like. Dan Williams showed yesterday why I thought he was head and shoulders above Terrance Cody.

  422. Seymour Bush Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:21 am

    Damn,…3 months of draft talk,..even old kells cutting and pasting useless info, and his hatred for white men is better then that,.
    ============================================

    It’s not THREE months til the draft, it’s, it’s, I guess it is three months of draft talk. Sweet.

  423. DKnight007 Says:

    Would love for the Raiders to actually draft good all around FOOTBALL PLAYERS in this draft like….

    Brandon Graham (as a RDE, reminds me of Elvis Dumervil, but stronger) Sean Weatherspoon (nasty yet fun attitude and physical) and Dan Williams (solid around DT against the run)

    Graham and Weatherspoon are the type of FOOTBALL PLAYERS this Raider team needs…..BADLY…..but sadly the old dumb man Al and his supposed scouts are on a different planet when it comes to drafting.

  424. DKnight007 Says:

    # Midwest Fan Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 9:49 am

    Good morning Nation.

    Weatherspoon looks like he can play both ILB & OLB. He is 6′1 240+, and runs a 4.5!! We know Al thinks he will be a great player. A few reportts showthat our scouts had interest in him.
    He is rated as a low 1st early 2nd!
    Ummm, I think Al is going to reach again!!
    ————–

    I was just thinking the same thing. I guess he was motivating the entire North team before the game. I guess there are worse avenues to take.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    There is now way the old man reaches that much and takes Weatherspoon with the #8 pick….is there??

    Ugh….who knows…it’s the delusional old man Al and his “scouting department” ? haha

    I would rather have the old man reach for Brandon Graham at #8 to play the disrupting RDE position who is stout versus the run. He his 263 lbs and I’m sure he can gain 10 pounds of muscle no problem.

  425. DKnight007 Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 11:21 pm

    Armond witout a doubt there will be a dominant player at 8 this draft goes about 13 deep in top teir talent if the right guy is there we have to take him. The only way I trade down is if someone overpays for the pick. That someone might be the 49ers.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Actually I would TRADE DOWN 5-7 slots in a heartbeat in this years draft…..SNAG Graham and then try and trade back up and SNAG either Williams or Weatherspoon!

    Then again this is the old senile delusional old man Al we are talking about. He will draft speed guys instead of physical nasty football players.

    What a joke….

  426. DKnight007 Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 11:03 am

    Nice Senior Bowl yesterday. I could echo the same sentiment as you guys, ie Brandon Graham just raised his value, but the guys I wanted to see were guys like Ducasse and Iupati. As Vegas Raider said, you wanted to see how these guys did against a major jump in competition. Both did extremely well in my mind. Ducasse I really like. Dan Williams showed yesterday why I thought he was head and shoulders above Terrance Cody.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    I also thought Williams was ahead of Cody…..but some in here like Godliness and SNB just like the overweight fat guys who are one dimensional.

  427. DKnight007 Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 11:03 am

    Nice Senior Bowl yesterday. I could echo the same sentiment as you guys, ie Brandon Graham just raised his value, but the guys I wanted to see were guys like Ducasse and Iupati. As Vegas Raider said, you wanted to see how these guys did against a major jump in competition. Both did extremely well in my mind. Ducasse I really like. Dan Williams showed yesterday why I thought he was head and shoulders above Terrance Cody.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Iupati struggled at RG but did better at LG. Iupati needs to use his legs more, get balanced and keep his hands inside.

    He can possibly project into a RT prospect as well. The coaches should have had him play a series at RT…but oh well.

    Iupati would add alot to the Raider O-Line, but it would be tough to pick him at #8….but I wouldn’t be pissed if it happened.

  428. Seymour Bush Says:

    DKnight007 I completely agree. A couple of guys that no one seems to mention are John Jerry and Mike Johnson the interior linemen of the South squad. Both those guys played EXTREMELY well yesterday. On the defensive side I liked Atkins and I really like Alualu from yes, CAL!

  429. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Dknight,

    I never said I had Cody over Williams. I just want a lineman at #8.

    Al Davis is going to reach no matter what. I would rather see a reach with a lineman than another athletic combine superstar who ends up busting out like the last 4 or 5 picks have done here.

    The lines are swiss cheese tough. We get overwhelmed on both sides. Then we explain it away like Cable by saying…oh we are so close…or if you look at the big plays…on and on and on….

    WHen you rank 30th or worse in run defense each year…that whole defense needs work. And with any rebuilding project, you start in the trenches and work out.

    Get a D-Linemand or O-Lineman with the #8 pick…then pick whoever the hell you want there after

  430. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    I am all good with going free agency for the line. Just get me a Kris Jenkins, a guy in demand, not leftovers like Gerard Warren

  431. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    No more guys like Terdell Sands. Remember him? Can’t even stay in the league as a backup and we had him as a lynchpin for our run defense. Paying him $4mil a year.

    Run defense 31st.

    There you have it

  432. DKnight007 Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 11:39 am

    DKnight007 I completely agree. A couple of guys that no one seems to mention are John Jerry and Mike Johnson the interior linemen of the South squad. Both those guys played EXTREMELY well yesterday. On the defensive side I liked Atkins and I really like Alualu from yes, CAL!

    ^^^^^^^^
    John Jerry would be a good late 2nd earlly 3rd rounder and Atkins would be a good 3rd rounder as well.

  433. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Let’s go free agency and pick up a linebacker. Seems the last few draft picks (Morrison, Howard, Norris) haven’t worked out.

    When was the last time we drafted a DT?

  434. DKnight007 Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 11:50 am

    Dknight,

    I never said I had Cody over Williams. I just want a lineman at #8.

    Al Davis is going to reach no matter what. I would rather see a reach with a lineman than another athletic combine superstar who ends up busting out like the last 4 or 5 picks have done here.

    The lines are swiss cheese tough. We get overwhelmed on both sides. Then we explain it away like Cable by saying…oh we are so close…or if you look at the big plays…on and on and on….

    WHen you rank 30th or worse in run defense each year…that whole defense needs work. And with any rebuilding project, you start in the trenches and work out.

    Get a D-Linemand or O-Lineman with the #8 pick…then pick whoever the hell you want there after

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Sorry if I’m mistaken but I know it was one of you big time guys in here for a DT that kept on tryin to sell Cody as the #8 pick. Godliness was one of them and there were a few others.

    No way on that one. I would rather have Dan Williams ahead of Cody as I stated 2 weeks ago.

  435. Seymour Bush Says:

    you mean drafted a DT highly, or drafted a DT at all?

  436. DKnight007 Says:

    Cam Thomas from NC would be a good 3rd-4th rounder also. His stock may rise even more…..but he is a bit raw.

  437. DKnight007 Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 12:00 pm

    Let’s go free agency and pick up a linebacker. Seems the last few draft picks (Morrison, Howard, Norris) haven’t worked out.

    When was the last time we drafted a DT?

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Would love to get a solid DT, but is there one worthy of the #8 overall pick besides Suh and McCoy?

    Nope….

  438. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    I forgot to add Stryker Sulak to that list.

    We’ve drafted 3 DTs in the last 10 years.

    2005 6th Round: Anttaj Hawthorne
    2001 6th Round: Chris Cooper
    2000 4th Round: Junior Ioane

  439. DKnight007 Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 11:55 am

    No more guys like Terdell Sands. Remember him? Can’t even stay in the league as a backup and we had him as a lynchpin for our run defense. Paying him $4mil a year.

    Run defense 31st.

    There you have it

    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    4 million a year when old man Al can use that 4 million a year to bring in a SOLID HEAD COACH who will turn this franchise and team around like JIM HARBAUGH!

    Crazy huh?

  440. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Vegas,

    I would be perfectly fine if the Raiders traded for Shaun Rogers out of Cleveland.

  441. Chris in NY Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 11:09 am
    Would love for the Raiders to actually draft good all around FOOTBALL PLAYERS in this draft like….

    Brandon Graham (as a RDE, reminds me of Elvis Dumervil, but stronger) Sean Weatherspoon (nasty yet fun attitude and physical) and Dan Williams (solid around DT against the run)

    Graham and Weatherspoon are the type of FOOTBALL PLAYERS this Raider team needs…..BADLY…..but sadly the old dumb man Al and his supposed scouts are on a different planet when it comes to drafting.

    ————————-

    Would be great to get all three of those guys, but all 3 are likely to go in Round 1. You’d have to pick just one probably unless we could trade up into the late 1st and get a 2nd one.

  442. Seymour Bush Says:

    # DKnight007 Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 12:01 pm

    Cam Thomas from NC would be a good 3rd-4th rounder also. His stock may rise even more…..but he is a bit raw.
    ===============================================

    I thought the same thing. Cam Thomas was looking like a 6th rounder before the game yesterday and I thought he looked dominating at times. The other guy we should keep our eyes on is Lamarr Houston the DT out of Texas. Nice player there, that should be there in the top of the third.

  443. DKnight007 Says:

    I would love to see Brandon Graham on this Raider team.

    6′1, built like a brick house at 263 lbs with room to get stronger since he is young.

    His low center of gravity and power will alow to him cause major disruption and he has solid hand skills and technique. Good football player who the Raiders should seriously look at.

  444. Chris in NY Says:

    jhill Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 9:41 am
    I guess what I’m saying is I just don’t see Al passing on Maulauga and Cushing last year, and drafting a LB this year. I’ve already had that bubble deflated.

    —————-

    Plus I think all 3 USC linebackers from last year are better than anything at the position in this year’s draft. Don’t see the value in taking an LB at No. 8 overall.

  445. SouthernStyle Says:

    I’m all for a trade for S. Rogers as well, i think we could get him for a reasonable price too. Didn’t he bust his leg this past season. I would love to try and get C. Hampton as well, but that will be costly. What are ya’lls thoughts on Tank Johnson, an upgrade over Warren?

  446. Chris in NY Says:

    By that I mean any of the LBs available this year at No. 8, not a LB in general. If there was an LT or Patrick Willis or somebody like that available, then sure, LB at No. 8 would be great. I just don’t think any of the top LBs this year are of that caliber.

  447. DKnight007 Says:

    # Chris in NY Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 12:12 pm

    DKnight007 Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 11:09 am
    Would love for the Raiders to actually draft good all around FOOTBALL PLAYERS in this draft like….

    Brandon Graham (as a RDE, reminds me of Elvis Dumervil, but stronger) Sean Weatherspoon (nasty yet fun attitude and physical) and Dan Williams (solid around DT against the run)

    Graham and Weatherspoon are the type of FOOTBALL PLAYERS this Raider team needs…..BADLY…..but sadly the old dumb man Al and his supposed scouts are on a different planet when it comes to drafting.

    ————————-

    Would be great to get all three of those guys, but all 3 are likely to go in Round 1. You’d have to pick just one probably unless we could trade up into the late 1st and get a 2nd one.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Trade down about 5-7 spots and snag Graham with that 1st pick. Then look to trade back up and with the extra picks and snag Weatherspoon or Williams.

  448. Chris in NY Says:

    I like Cam Thomas as a run stuffing DT as well. I had us taking him in the 3rd round in a mock draft I posted before the Senior Bowl. However, Mayock said during the game he’s really upped his stock and now thinks he might not get out of the 2nd round.

  449. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Speaking of draft strategy

    Where’s Arman Shields and John Bowie….40x warriors

  450. DKnight007 Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 11:55 am

    No more guys like Terdell Sands. Remember him? Can’t even stay in the league as a backup and we had him as a lynchpin for our run defense. Paying him $4mil a year.

    Run defense 31st.

    There you have it

    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    4 million a year when old man Al can stop being cheap and use that 4 million a year to bring in a SOLID HEAD COACH who will turn this franchise and team around like JIM HARBAUGH!

    Crazy huh?

  451. Seymour Bush Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    Vegas,

    I would be perfectly fine if the Raiders traded for Shaun Rogers out of Cleveland.
    =====================================================

    Shaun Rogers was REVILED in Detroit for being a fat lazy ass underachiever. You guys rail and rail on Jamarcus Russell for the same thing, and now you want to bring in another guy who has that exact same image across half the country? We DON”T want those types of players. We want high motor guys that overachieve. Guys like Jared Allen, Kampman, Sedrick Ellis, high motor guys.

  452. Seymour Bush Says:

    # DKnight007 Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    I would love to see Brandon Graham on this Raider team.

    6′1, built like a brick house at 263 lbs with room to get stronger since he is young.

    His low center of gravity and power will alow to him cause major disruption and he has solid hand skills and technique. Good football player who the Raiders should seriously look at.
    =========================================

    The thing with Brandon Graham is he is a smart, solid RDE who can run defend. Problem is, we already have a RDE. His name is Richard Seymour.

  453. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Seymour,

    All I want is a big guy that can get in the way. Didn’t Rogers make a Pro Bowl a year ago.

    We SHOULD NOT go into next year with Gerard “pass rusher” Warren manning the DT spot….bad enough that Kelly will be back.

    For a team that has vanilla sets, doesn’t blitz and has speedy, but lightweight, linebackers…you BETTER have someone on that line in the middle that can create some havoc…or even just get in the way and take up two blockers.

    The run defense has been utter garbage for years…and drafting more cornerbacks and safeties and fleet footed backers are not going to get this done.

    We MISSED THE MARK badly last year passing up on guys like Raji, Hood, Jerry etc…..for a fleet footed Wide Receiver that can’t catch but looks great off the bus.

    Fix the lines…..the Raiders have NEGLECTED the DT positions and the O-Lines….as a result…30+ run defense and QBs laying on their backsides

  454. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    DKnight,

    Its amazing how Davis throws tons of money to bust players in the draft and bigger busts in free agency but won’t spend a dime on the coaches.

    Probably because Davis figures he’s done most of the work developing the scheme…and the coaches just have to execute it the best they can.

    Sad though…$4Million could get the Raiders A REAL head coach.

    I wonder how much Hue Jackson is getting btw

  455. Seymour Bush Says:

    I posted this a couple of days ago and Cable is right about this: the issue with our defense is it gives up too many big plays. Too many in both the run AND passing games. We led the league in surrendering runs of FORTY YARDS OR MORE!! Forty yard runs!!! We gave up the most! You know how many Indy gave up? None. So what does that mean?

    Well, what it means is this, you look at these plays, and the DT’s most likely did their jobs. The LB’s either overpursued, couldn’t shed, or misread the play, then the most important part, the run support in the 2ndary, was non existent. Hence the “overreach” for Mike Mitchell, a run defending sure tackling safety.

  456. DKnight007 Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 12:21 pm

    # DKnight007 Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    I would love to see Brandon Graham on this Raider team.

    6′1, built like a brick house at 263 lbs with room to get stronger since he is young.

    His low center of gravity and power will alow to him cause major disruption and he has solid hand skills and technique. Good football player who the Raiders should seriously look at.
    =========================================

    The thing with Brandon Graham is he is a smart, solid RDE who can run defend. Problem is, we already have a RDE. His name is Richard Seymour.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Seymour should be moved inside IMO.

    The Raider defense needs to more of an overall pass rushing disruptor RDE who is solid versus the run.

    Seymour is more of a run defending disruptor who can’t get to the QB consistently.

    By moving Seymour inside it would create so much opportunity for an edge rusher with Grahams skill set to cause some serious disruption to opposing O-Lines.

    Graham can also handle the edge and is stout versus the run.

  457. Seymour Bush Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    I wonder how much Hue Jackson is getting btw
    ==============================================

    What’s minimum wage in the state of California these days?

  458. SouthernStyle Says:

    4 million a year when old man Al can stop being cheap and use that 4 million a year to bring in a SOLID HEAD COACH who will turn this franchise and team around like JIM HARBAUGH!

    Crazy huh?
    ———————————-

    LoL All i can do is laugh along with the others.

  459. DKnight007 Says:

    This is the thing also fellas.

    The Raiders have the ammunition to move up in this draft to get back into the late 1st round and snag another hard nosed nasty player like Grahan, Odrick, Williams or Weatherspoon.

    They have the 2nd round pick, as well as the two 3rd’s, the 4th and two 5th’s to use as PLENTY of TRADE bait.

    The freakin problem is (as always) the old looney man Al and his lousy GM skills and DOESN’T know how to work the draft anymore! Ugh….it’s depressing.

  460. DKnight007 Says:

    # SouthernStyle Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    4 million a year when old man Al can stop being cheap and use that 4 million a year to bring in a SOLID HEAD COACH who will turn this franchise and team around like JIM HARBAUGH!

    Crazy huh?
    ———————————-

    LoL All i can do is laugh along with the others.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Yeah…it’s so sad…all we can do is laugh.

    4 million a year would get Gruden back probably as well!

    Crazy…..LOL

  461. DKnight007 Says:

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    DKnight,

    Its amazing how Davis throws tons of money to bust players in the draft and bigger busts in free agency but won’t spend a dime on the coaches.

    Probably because Davis figures he’s done most of the work developing the scheme…and the coaches just have to execute it the best they can.

    Sad though…$4Million could get the Raiders A REAL head coach.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    It’s freakin RIDICULOUS!

    And they wonder why most of us don’t waste our time and money on buying Season Tickets for a franchise that is COMPLETELY MISMANAGED or for that matter even bother to go to the games (hence the crap load of blackouts)

  462. Seymour Bush Says:

    One of the big things in this draft that no one is talking about is the retirement of Kurt Warner. One excellent NFL Q is now gone. Zona publicly believes Leinert is the answer but privately they have to be quite uneasy. Probably half the teams in the league could use some type of QB help. That makes the #8 pick that much more valuable.

  463. Raider O Says:

    O Mock Draft 5.0:
    1- LB Weatherspoon
    2- OT Kyle Calloway
    3- DT Cam Thomas
    3- DE Austen Lane
    4- ILB Micah Johnson
    5- CB Walter Thurmond
    5- KR/ PR Leroy Vann

  464. Raider O Says:

    Correction*

    2- OT T Williams or Kyle Calloway.

  465. buckeyeraider Says:

    Brandon Graham is a heck of a football player. One of my best friends is a Mich season ticket holder, and the next door neighbor is a huge Michigan fan, who’s dad played for Bo in the 70’s. They both like to remind me that Graham led the nation in tackles for losses the last two years. While it’s true you can never have too many great pass rushers , Graham may be a luxury the Raiders can’t afford right now. They are pretty set at De, for at least the next couple of years with the veterans Seymour and Ellis. Matt S. of Wisc. looks like a pretty promising young prospect. Richardson isn’t a bad rotational player, and Trevor Scott can slide back to DE in passing situations. They have too many glaring needs on the OL, at MLB and even DT, to afford a pick like Graham at DE. They could do worse, though.

  466. Raider O Says:

    We need to move Seymour inside. He is not a 4-3 RDE. I want more than 4 sacks from the RDE.

  467. Raiders4eve Says:

    Seymour

    AZ will sign Vick or Culpepper to compete with Lienart, their offensive players said that they don’t trust Lienart, their team is ready all they need is QB, either Vick or even trade for Mcnab

  468. Raider O Says:

    The Eagles are not going to trade #5.

    The Cards should trade for J Campbell, or sign a get lie Chad P.

  469. Raider O Says:

    *sign a vet like Chad P.

  470. r8eray Says:

    My 2 $ents!

  471. Raider O Says:

    Who ahouod we draft to olay MLB, McClain, Weatherspoon, Or Spikes?

    I like Spoon because we ask a lot from our MLB. We need him to cover, run sideline to sideline, and be able to stop the run.

    McClain, Spikes, and Micah Johnson are all pure MLB. Mcclain has good speed, but he doesn’t look smooth when he covers ( which is normal for a MLB).

    Spoon has good size for a MLB (6′1 245+), and runs a 4.5 which he shows when he covers. He ran with McCluster yesterday, and covered him well.

  472. Raider O Says:

    *Who should we draft..?

  473. Raider O Says:

    After my great draft: lol

    SS: Branch/ Mitchell
    FS: Huff/ Branch
    CB: Nnamdi
    CB: CJ/ Walter Thurmond
    SLB: Micah Johnson ( plays like Rey for the Bengals)/ Scott
    ILB: Spoon
    WLB: TH/ Scott
    RDE: Austen Lane
    DT: Seymour/ TK
    DT: Cam Thomas/ TK
    LDE: Ellis/ Matt S

    Top 10 D!! lol
    Pete, I know you like this draft. ( 2LBs, and Beefy DT)

  474. Raider O Says:

    I think we should add help to the Offense by adding FAs, and drafting a RT. Our Offense is young and doesn’t need more raw talent IMO. It needs vets who can lead and show the young Players how to get better.

    We need a vet C, WR, FB, and OT.

  475. buckeyeraider Says:

    Raider O,
    One free agent OL the Raiders might want to take a look at is Marshall Yanda of the Ravens. Hue Jackson should be familiar with him from Balt. He was a fairly high rated prospect coming out of Iowa a couple of years ago. I believe he was a second rd pick. He can play either right guard or tackle. He might be an upgrade over Carlisle or Mop Handle. I believe he’s a restricted free agent, but he might be worth a look. I don’t think he starts, but seems to play a lot in Baltimore’s three headed power running attack.

  476. Raider O Says:

    Balt has a good Olive so he it’s hard to earn a starting job there, but he should be a great upgrade over Cooper. I also like their LT, and I think he is a FA too.

  477. Raider O Says:

    Oline*

  478. Raider O Says:

    Buckeye,

    Our offense is young, we need Oline help, and there are a few FAs that we can sign to fix the Oline. We can draft a RT and save money, but we still need to add a G, and another OT to compete with the rookie and Mario for the OT position.
    Add a C, G, FB, WR, and an OT in FA.
    We need to get the best G , C, and FB available, and we should draft a RT.

  479. Raiderglory34 Says:

    like i said before

    1.LB
    2.CODY DT

    yeah i agree on the sheppard comment
    but with cody and another LB 1st 2 round will solve the run stopping issues their for the secondar will get to shine! reason why morrison is getting block of out of position is due to the fact there isnt a DT that takes the blocks period! soo we sure just line up with 2 ends and 2 cb like i said the must is cody in the 2nd round period reason why i say LB first is b/c you cant give up a future hall of famer the 3 LB coming out can be hall of famer

    pass downs
    DE ellis
    DT seymour
    DT cody
    DE shaughnessy

    run downs
    DE ellis
    DT seymour
    DT cody
    DE richardson
    with that line we will do great!

    But we need to Biltz alot MORE!!!

    now with a year under russells belt with his CURRENT wr’s schillens DHB and big daddy murphy you will see a raider record 9-7 and possible 10-6 if cody and new lineback is drafted 1 and 2

  480. Raiderglory34 Says:

    oh and of course the rest of the draft one CB-S for dime and nichel and all o-line to have some competition at camp

    i wish i had the chance to work with j.russell all he needs is someone to helphim along!

  481. priesttj Says:

    great post #479 it’s about time someb ody figured out what the defense front for us actually is. Seymour is a BASE END not a pass down RDE he kicks inside on passing downs. You would take the effectiveness of the front 4 away by making him an every down 3tech. What we’re doing with the defense right now up front scheme wise is very sound it’s the players we have not the scheme. Leave Seymour exactly where he is and get an additional edge rusher. And addd to the run defense by adding a better MLB not by kicking Seymour inside.

    Get better players the scheme is fine.

  482. priesttj Says:

    Also I like our DT’s unless you can get a great player I don’t se us changing much there with Dez Bryant already backing up Seymour and TK and Joseph backing up Warren. Maybe Suh and McCoy would get us better at the 3tech but then what do you do with Seymour? some of you don’t make sense in your assesments. A lot of what your talking about doesn’t make sense you want rookies to come in and replace productive vets it doesn’t make sense. You’re not going to draft a rookie that high and not start him.

    Now for depth and can see us getting another DT but then what do you do with Dez? cut him? As far as a edge ruaher I can see it hen we can leave Scott at OLB. That makes us better. Adding a MLB like McClain or whomever makes us better. A late corner makes us better. depth at WR/KR makes us better, OT makes us better even a top teir C. I think we could use another great runner HB more than a DT.

  483. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    Also I like our DT’s unless you can get a great player I don’t se us changing much there with Dez Bryant already backing up Seymour and TK and Joseph backing up Warren. Maybe Suh and McCoy would get us better at the 3tech but then what do you do with Seymour? some of you don’t make sense in your assesments. A lot of what your talking about doesn’t make sense you want rookies to come in and replace productive vets it doesn’t make sense. You’re not going to draft a rookie that high and not start him.

    Now for depth and can see us getting another DT but then what do you do with Dez? cut him? As far as a edge ruaher I can see it hen we can leave Scott at OLB. That makes us better. Adding a MLB like McClain or whomever makes us better. A late corner makes us better. depth at WR/KR makes us better, OT makes us better even a top teir C. I think we could use another great runner HB more than a DT.
    ***************************************

    Pure barbage fromthe first sentence on…….as usual. Our DTs suck man

  484. Raider O Says:

    O Mock Draft 5.0:

    1- LB Weatherspoon 6′1 245+, and runs a 4.5 40
    2- OT T Williams or Kyle Calloway
    3- DT Cam Thomas 6′4 331
    3- DE Austen Lane, 6′6 270, runs a 4.6, and has 33″ arms.
    4- ILB Micah Johnson 6′2 255, runs a sub 4.7
    5- CB Walter Thurmond 6′1 189, and could be the seal of the draft.
    5- KR/ PR Leroy Vann he has 11 TD returns in the last 2 years. Runs a 4.3

  485. The Return of Godliness Says:

    garbage*

  486. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Our DTs combined dont even equate to a decent DT

  487. Norco Bob Says:

    brian?

  488. The Return of Godliness Says:

    you people on this site claimed last summer the DEs were the problem when Chris NY, SoB and myself were saying the DTs were the main culprits…..outside of the terrible scheme. Anyone who claims our DT rotation is fine is a delusional idiot who is nothing more than a Raider mouthpiece

  489. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Sup Bob……….BHP spewing his BS again

  490. Norco Bob Says:

    TJ,..Im callin Gary in the morning,..tune in, I will give you a shout out.

  491. The Return of Godliness Says:

    BHP said our DTs were productive lol!!! This is too much. A rookie can stink just as bad as Tommy Kelly and Gerard Warren………..Desmond Bryant? UDFA project Al is trying again. Guy will never be a good starter in this league. Cut him as well

  492. Norco Bob Says:

    Dang bro, I was goin to lay a couple bills on the colts this week in Tahoe,..but if Freeney out, I likely wont. Damn.

  493. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Fuk the Colts. I’m for the Saints to win. The corporate whore Peyton Manning loses just like he would have had Lovie Smith not played Grossman in 2006

  494. priesttj Says:

    Ignorant wretch as usual. Seymour sucks!? Warren sucks!? Dez sucks!? take up another sports damn fool.

  495. The Return of Godliness Says:

    BHP quit hiding and defend your BS posts

  496. The Return of Godliness Says:

    BHP………..yawwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnn to that. Seymour is a base DE not a DT. Yes Warren sucks and so does Dez. Kelly is the worse of the bunch. I was hopeful for the best but these guys have shown nada

  497. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Seymour is cool to me and I welcome him back in Oakland. Warren can stay as long as he is a backup. Dez and Kelly can go die. William joseph sucks as well

  498. priesttj Says:

    Like I said ignorant wretch……….personified!!

  499. Norco Bob Says:

    TJ,…Im giving you a shout out in the morning with Gary,..tune in.

  500. The Return of Godliness Says:

    A stupid moron believes our DT unit is fine. Those guys stink and constantly got beat up vs the run. It was sickening watching those sorry POS get pushed backwards and never be stout at the point of attack.

  501. The Return of Godliness Says:

    BHP……..has nada to dispute what I’m saying. Typical name calling cuz he again has nada

  502. Raiderglory34 Says:

    to 481 the reason you bring seymour inside is b/c one you do put another play maker on the field for 2 if cody is drafted he will everydown take 2 blockers giving seymour a closer shot at the Qb and one on one with a guard 3 ellis stays in due to the fact he makes plays on both run and pass but bringing in richardson you put a 280lbs run stopper at end plus can rush if its a pass

    keeping seymour with cody inside will make morrison extremely nasty with a pure shot at anyone coming
    cody with 2 blockers seymour can make plays inthe backfield or bounce the ball outside to our super fast linebacking core now fast doesnt make the tackles but when you dont have many blockers down field its easier for gang tackling seymour is a DT look what happend when we played NE in the playoffs and seymour stopped out sure short distance runner crockett now that being said if you stop the run the pass will be alot harder and with one lock you the !@#$ down corner you have only oneside to throw too

    thank you for the comment

  503. priesttj Says:

    Bob, I’ll try man…. but I can’t listen to that whole show waiting for you to come on, I can’t take it.

  504. The Return of Godliness Says:

    BHP loves to ignore the fact that again in the 2009 season the Raiders were soft and weak up the middle of the defense…….examples the DTs and Kirk Morrison. The DTs are number one at fault.

  505. Norco Bob Says:

    TJ,..It will be around 9:30,…and you can also call in, I got it hooked up, you are no longer banned,..youre welcome brother.

  506. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Yeah BHP you are welcomed to make your useless ramblings in defense of awful players

  507. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Hey BHP………Russell leading us to the Super bowl in two years right? Nothing is wrong with the scheme?

  508. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Dez Bryant will be a force in the NFL right?

  509. Norco Bob Says:

    Nah man Im goin for the Colts dude,..Sean Payton doesnt need to win, Parcells coffee boy needs to lose, and he will,..with or without Freeney.

  510. priesttj Says:

    Raiderglory34, Cody is a NT for a 3/4 we run a 4/3 he just wouldn’t fit Marshalls scheme. And Seymour where is makes gives a better chance on run downs. I know what you’re thinking but Cody is a one trick pony. The guy’s we have are much more versatile if you want to zone blitz or run tricks up front. Yu have understand the scheme you’re running.

  511. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    Raiderglory34, Cody is a NT for a 3/4 we run a 4/3 he just wouldn’t fit Marshalls scheme. And Seymour where is makes gives a better chance on run downs. I know what you’re thinking but Cody is a one trick pony. The guy’s we have are much more versatile if you want to zone blitz or run tricks up front. Yu have understand the scheme you’re running.
    *************************************

    Another super idiotic post. Yeah sure Marshall’s scheme? What is that exactly?

    They run the same damn scheme they ran in 2002 when we had fat boy Sam Adams here. So explain how Cody wouldnt fit?

  512. priesttj Says:

    yeah Bob thanks.

  513. Raiderglory34 Says:

    504 your right DT is the problem period but blaming morrison isnt i dont care if you have urlacher as our MLB he will get ran on! now lets get on urlacher now what happend to him this season??? he got hurt b/c for one he lost his DT that protected him your DT is to take all the blockers up and make play in the backfield sometimes but thier there to eat blockers thats what cody will do demanding a double team all game making seymour a real threat up the middle one on one and the ends one on one. giving our linebackers free blitzes vison to attack and morrison will really show you something you really havent seen

  514. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Bob………Sean Payton is cool with me. Shockey is the man and I’m pulling for that city after what happened to them. They need something to smile about. Screw the Colts. They ditched their true home BALTIMORE like snakes

  515. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Raiderglory………….Kirk Morrison isnt physical enough to be a MLB. He cant shed blocks and missing many tackles. Notice when people cut back against Raider defense he is outta place. Guy isnt a good MLB at all

  516. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Ha we have seen Morrison blitz and he isnt that good at it. He is a RFA…….draft day trade. Get him outta here. If ricky Brown didnt suck so much he would have been the MLB. That is why they tried that experiement last summer! Cuz Kirk isnt a MLB

  517. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Glory34………..now i do agree Cody will eat up space. I’m his biggest advocate on this blog but still Kirk will continue to not be physical and miss tackles. Get him outta here fast

  518. Raiderglory34 Says:

    wellin that case schem wise lets move to a 52 monster put cody at NT and make howard about monster back

  519. Norco Bob Says:

    I agree bro on all that but Sean,..hey Shockey was the man in preseason, were you down there when he came over?…I got tossed that game.

  520. The Return of Godliness Says:

    BHP=excuse maker……Raiderglory you will be best advised to see the old guy for what he is

  521. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Bob i was right there when Shockey came over…..dude was hella cool. Reggie Bush didnt like my Kim Kardashian comments lol

  522. priesttj Says:

    Yeah everybody said the same thing about BJ Raji last year. He’ll eat doubles, well he did on the bench. Cody is better player IMO but our DT’s get doubled all the time if you want to get to the QB get an edge rusher if you want to stop the run TACKLE better it’s that simple.

  523. Norco Bob Says:

    Ya dave kept yellin Ray-J crap at him thats why…Shockey was awesome, I wouldnt let him go,..man I was wasted that day and it was like 105 degrees.

  524. The Return of Godliness Says:

    I’m just so glad the ZBS is getting the blade in Oakland. It doesnt suit our RBs and it dont work for us at all. It is weak pu$$y shyt and sucks in the red zone

  525. Norco Bob Says:

    brian are we the only ones wanting Mike Vick?…have you floated the idea yet in this place?

  526. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 4:19 pm

    Ya dave kept yellin Ray-J crap at him thats why…Shockey was awesome, I wouldnt let him go,..man I was wasted that day and it was like 105 degrees.
    **********************

    Dave started it but I finished it mentioning about her getting her snatch ran thru in the Valley and I can shout out names too. That is why he gave me that ugly look

  527. priesttj Says:

    Truth be told if you score more points and run more offensive plays your run defense will look alot better. Our defense played almost 2 more games than any other defense in the league because we have no offense.

  528. Norco Bob Says:

    Bush was pissed, didnt play,..did he suit up?..I dont think so but was in our area,..ya he was mad…lol.

  529. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 4:18 pm

    Yeah everybody said the same thing about BJ Raji last year. He’ll eat doubles, well he did on the bench. Cody is better player IMO but our DT’s get doubled all the time if you want to get to the QB get an edge rusher if you want to stop the run TACKLE better it’s that simple.
    **********************************

    Old fart…………..everybody? Go check the archives I never wanted Raji you fool. I agree with Al Davis on not selecting short ass DTs. He never will pick one that high.

    First off you idiot you fail to realize the Raiders dont have a run stuffing DT because Gerard Warren’s technique is that of a UT. He cant shed two blockers or eat up space. He jsut tries to shoot the gaps and that leaves the rest of the D out to dry. Raiders need a fat ass guy like Cody in the middle who wont get punked and moved out of the way

  530. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    brian are we the only ones wanting Mike Vick?…have you floated the idea yet in this place?
    ***********************

    We are the only ones with sense in here. Vick is extremely better than russell

  531. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 4:21 pm

    Truth be told if you score more points and run more offensive plays your run defense will look alot better. Our defense played almost 2 more games than any other defense in the league because we have no offense.
    ***************************

    Truth be told you are a raider stooge like herrera who will always dodge the real truth. The defense sucks due to sorry players and a garbage scheme

  532. Raiderglory34 Says:

    we are taking about the run D if you cant stop the run you will get passed on all game long period! now raji is a good player but hes not almost 400 lbs and beast as cody. im telling you now boston has there big ticket but imtelling you this cody will be oaklands big ticket!!! i dont care who you have on the ends it means nothing if a DT doesnt take the blockers up the middle collaping the pocket for the DE’s to get in there soo like i said cody is the key hes almost worth taking with our first round but im thinking he will be there in the 2nd for us but i also have to say if the offense doesnt get 1st downs it doesnt matter how get our defense is

  533. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Wow we have no offense BHP? Revealing info there

  534. Norco Bob Says:

    Hey brian, talked to dave,..everyone all in for arizona road game next season,…its gonna be a riot man,…gotta get brad and a couple of his peeps to go too,..the more the merrier,..bring some of your boys too bro if you want.

  535. Norco Bob Says:

    TJ thinks Russell has talent, Im not seeing it man.

  536. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Raiderglory i agree. Raiders run defense gets better over nite with Cody starting. Throw a true MLB in there and we are talking about something then

  537. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Bob that sounds cool………..

    BHP is trippin. Russell lacks talent. He can throw the ball far is all

  538. Norco Bob Says:

    Brian I bet russell never makes it out of Napa…and I bet he doesnt care either.

  539. Raiderglory34 Says:

    well i dont mind a MLB but i think morrison will look alot better once cody is inserted the thing is we need one more outside but mcclain can play both mlb and OLB strong side leaving howard as our pass covering OLB but you get a nice blitzing package with mcclain too being able to have 2 MLB i dont see morrison going anywhere he calls the plays and you dont need a rookie doing that! i DONT want to see a #1 OL picked i will be sick! all raider gear OL are picked 2nd round on. we need a veteran o-lineman from free agent market if there is one and draft young OL to be groomed not 29 year old non proved

    id like to see kelly let go and walker
    maybe trade fargas since we have russell mcfadden and bush

  540. RaidingTexas Says:

    If Russell can throw the ball far, how come he one hops it to everyone???

  541. priesttj Says:

    I’m going to say this fr the last time. But it will still go over everyones head. Stopping the run is an attitude Cody can help. But it comes down to the back 7 ability to tackle. You can have King kong at DT but if the guy’s behind him can’t fill and tackle it doesn’t matter. It’s easy to run away from the interior defense DT’s can’t stop that they can only stop what’s coming at them. Great DT’s always help the runD but that is NOT how you stop the run you have to fill gaps and TACKLE. Now that I’ve said it for the 6thousandth time. You still wont comprehend it. The Indy Colt’s don’t have a great big FAT DT but they play the run very well because they run to the football and TACKLE……………..period

    Some ignorant wrteches will never figure that out. Also having a good offense put up some points helps tremendously.

  542. jhill Says:

    Cody in Rd 2?

  543. jhill Says:

    Our defense played almost 2 more games than any other defense in the league because we have no offense.

    ——————————————————-

    Just don’t see how that points gets lost by so many people!

  544. Norco Bob Says:

    TJ,…Im going to tell Gary tomorrow how you like to insult bloggers,..call them ignorant,..wretches,..he wont like hearing that.

  545. priesttj Says:

    Cody at 340 or under I like, at 370 forget it I wouldn’t touch his fat ass in the 1st maybe not in the 2nd. There are too many good DT’s that can help to draft a guy who’ll be outta the league or on someone bench in 4 years.

  546. priesttj Says:

    Jhill, because they only see what the rest of them say. Half these guy’s watch these games sloppy drunk.

  547. Richochet Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    Screw the Colts. They ditched their true home BALTIMORE like snakes
    =====================
    Bree the Flea?
    Didn’t someone else do the same thing?
    Left town? Screwing over the fans?

    Except in Baltimore they didn’t have loyal fans. They weren’t selling out every game, even during losing seasons.
    They left because they didn’t have fan support.

    As I recall someone else was selling out every game, win or lose. Loyal fan support. Yet the owner still said F YOU, FANS..I’M OUTTA HERE.

    Any idea who that was? Slips my mind..at the moment.

  548. Norco Bob Says:

    Was that directed at me TJ? :(

  549. Richochet Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    Jhill, because they only see what the rest of them say. Half these guy’s watch these games sloppy drunk.
    ==================
    Watching sloppy drunk means there is a remote chance you’ll grasp the obvious.

    Watching as you do, ignorant and in total denial, playing the lemming bit to the hilt, means the obvious is never an option.

  550. Norco Bob Says:

    By the way, received a DM from the commish today,..pretty cool ya?

  551. Richochet Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    Was that directed at me TJ? :(
    ==========
    Bobbo..you’re not sloppy drunk, you’re fall down drunk.

    Wait.

    is that the same?

  552. lefty12 Says:

    Jhill post 543 at 4:52pm-Brillant!

  553. Norco Bob Says:

    TJ,..ya I go to all the games and watch them drunk and stoned,..so what?..what do you do during the game,…watch each play and discuss it with your friends, so you can blog about it later?

  554. priesttj Says:

    It was directed at half the fans in the stands screaming obscenities at players who aren’t even in the game. Your conscience is bothering you.

  555. priesttj Says:

    I watch the game becauseI love the game and the team. I love the science of the game and beauty of it. If I’m drunk and high beyond all conscienceness I don’t enjoy it.

  556. Norco Bob Says:

    The only players Iv been lobbing obscenities at the last few years are our own players,..and they deserve it,…I will start booing this year in Napa.

  557. Norco Bob Says:

    If I dont watch drunk and stoned,..I might just throw up.

  558. Richochet Says:

    · priesttj Says:
    August 10th, 2009 at 11:32 am
    Write it down now!! Chaz will be a better player this year than Crabtree. For Crabtree to miss this much camp and it doesn’t look like he will sign anytime soon.
    Right now Chaz is a much better player than Crabtree at this level. You cannot come in camp this late and succeed I’m sorry. It’s just tooo difficult. If Crabtree can get in before the last preseason game and get some work in maybe by midseason he’ll start to find his way. But this is really let for him to contribute this year.
    I can almost gaurantee you that if and when he signs he’ll be pressing to show he was worth the wait and the money. And cause an injury or imped his own development. Hold outs this long are never good for rookies. If he’s not signed by the 3rd preaseason game this entire year will be a washout.
    The kid never got into OTA’s, minicamp’s or anything. He hasn’t practiced at all and to miss training camp. They can forget it this year……….period
    ================================
    LMAO…”I GUARANTEE” “THIS YEAR IS A WASHOUT” “CAN FORGET IT THIS YEAR” “Chaz will be better this year than Crabtree..I GUARANTEE”. “Will take Crabtree until midseason to contribute, IF HE SIGNS BEFORE CAMP IS OVER”.

    You kind of torched that one, didn’t ya, TJ?

  559. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    Screw the Colts. They ditched their true home BALTIMORE like snakes
    =====================
    Bree the Flea?
    Didn’t someone else do the same thing?
    Left town? Screwing over the fans?

    Except in Baltimore they didn’t have loyal fans. They weren’t selling out every game, even during losing seasons.
    They left because they didn’t have fan support.

    As I recall someone else was selling out every game, win or lose. Loyal fan support. Yet the owner still said F YOU, FANS..I’M OUTTA HERE.

    Any idea who that was? Slips my mind..at the moment.
    *********************************

    Hmmmmmmm actually the city council in Oakland screwed that ordeal up by listening to pete rozelle…….yeah Al was wrong to move but notice he came back? Thanks move on idiot

  560. The Return of Godliness Says:

    BHP=excuses excuses

  561. Richochet Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    If I’m drunk and high beyond all conscienceness I don’t enjoy it.
    ======================
    You don’t drink DURING the game? Then you must really tie one on while walking out to your car, because on the post game show you sound like you’re toasted..all mumbling, and slurring your words..hard to understand.

    Dude..be better if you say you were fried, instead of giving the impression that’s how you sound sober.

  562. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    well, the offensive line couldn’t block worth a plug nickle….going o-line in the 1st round would be a smart move too.

    Although expecting a Raider offense to score points is a little bit of a stretch given the horrible line we are dealing with.

    FIX THE LINES! Offense or defense. This outside in B.S has not worked!

  563. priesttj Says:

    Bob to each his own I’m not judging you bro… I’m just saying that’s why some doubt know what happened. They think they do.

    Whatever works for you…

  564. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Bichochet……….who is your team again?

  565. Norco Bob Says:

    On home game days, we usually start drinking around thursday.

  566. priesttj Says:

    (don’t) know what happened…

  567. The Return of Godliness Says:

    BHP……..sobriety isnt working for you when you put down your ANALysis of these games………maybe you should get wasted

  568. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    (don’t) know what happened…
    **************************

    Yes we can see you dont. This is coming fromthe guy who thinks our DT rotation is fine lol

  569. Norco Bob Says:

    TJ,..come to our tailgate,..A lot,…lots of booze,..beer,..pot…pills…bbq…loud music…skanky women poppin by all day…all good.

  570. The Return of Godliness Says:

    anyways……….time to jet…………at ya guys later

  571. priesttj Says:

    lol…. how would you know?

  572. Richochet Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    Screw the Colts. They ditched their true home BALTIMORE like snakes
    =====================
    Bree the Flea?
    Didn’t someone else do the same thing?
    Left town? Screwing over the fans?

    Except in Baltimore they didn’t have loyal fans. They weren’t selling out every game, even during losing seasons.
    They left because they didn’t have fan support.

    As I recall someone else was selling out every game, win or lose. Loyal fan support. Yet the owner still said F YOU, FANS..I’M OUTTA HERE.

    Any idea who that was? Slips my mind..at the moment.
    *********************************

    Hmmmmmmm actually the city council in Oakland screwed that ordeal up by listening to pete rozelle…….yeah Al was wrong to move but notice he came back? Thanks move on idiot
    ==========================
    LOL..again, you don’t have clue?
    City council listened to Rozelle?
    Al sued to move..he wanted OUT..he hosed all of the loyal fans..BECAUSE HE WANTED TO HOBKNOB WITH CELEBS in LA. Wanted those extra bucks. Thought “We’re the Raiders. I believe what my kissass crew tells me..that everyone loves the Raiders. We’ll sell out…GUARANTEED.
    And he found out it was all a myth.

    And yeah he came back…WHERE ELSE WAS HE GOING TO GO?

    no where..The only place that gave him a sniff, Irwandale, he screwed over.

    And since he came back? HAS SET A RECORD FOR MOST BLACKOUTS OF ANY TEAM IN THE NFL..

    You need to read up. HEY…I KNOW..ask Monte. I’ll bet he’ll point ya in the right direction. Then you can tell everyone how excited you got, because Monte “talked to me..go ask him..ASK HIM”.

    *pat on head*. We’re so happy for ya, Bree the Flea

  573. Norco Bob Says:

    cya brian

  574. Norco Bob Says:

    Rich old buddy,..could ya dumb it down please?..I cant keep track with all the multiple cutting n pasting on one post,..I get dizzy man,…thanks.

  575. Richochet Says:

    I have faith in you, Bobbo.
    Work your way up.
    One paragraph..then…when it feels right…tackle another one.

  576. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    Screw the Colts. They ditched their true home BALTIMORE like snakes
    =====================
    Bree the Flea?
    Didn’t someone else do the same thing?
    Left town? Screwing over the fans?

    Except in Baltimore they didn’t have loyal fans. They weren’t selling out every game, even during losing seasons.
    They left because they didn’t have fan support.

    As I recall someone else was selling out every game, win or lose. Loyal fan support. Yet the owner still said F YOU, FANS..I’M OUTTA HERE.

    Any idea who that was? Slips my mind..at the moment.
    *********************************

    Hmmmmmmm actually the city council in Oakland screwed that ordeal up by listening to pete rozelle…….yeah Al was wrong to move but notice he came back? Thanks move on idiot
    ==========================
    LOL..again, you don’t have clue?
    City council listened to Rozelle?
    Al sued to move..he wanted OUT..he hosed all of the loyal fans..BECAUSE HE WANTED TO HOBKNOB WITH CELEBS in LA. Wanted those extra bucks. Thought “We’re the Raiders. I believe what my kissass crew tells me..that everyone loves the Raiders. We’ll sell out…GUARANTEED.
    And he found out it was all a myth.

    And yeah he came back…WHERE ELSE WAS HE GOING TO GO?

    no where..The only place that gave him a sniff, Irwandale, he screwed over.

    And since he came back? HAS SET A RECORD FOR MOST BLACKOUTS OF ANY TEAM IN THE NFL..

    You need to read up. HEY…I KNOW..ask Monte. I’ll bet he’ll point ya in the right direction. Then you can tell everyone how excited you got, because Monte “talked to me..go ask him..ASK HIM”.

    *pat on head*. We’re so happy for ya, Bree the Flea
    **************************************

    Too easy to slap this one down………….first off you mentioning the Colts is quite laughable. There were many reasons Irsay left Bmore you fool. Attendance was an issue but it went deeper than that

    Yes the city council did stupidly listen to Rozelle. You must not be familiar with the idiots that have dwell in Oakland’s city council for you to make imply they didnt. Hey go ask John Vella about it if you dont believe it. Im sure he knows way more about the situation than both of us combined. his store is right next to Ricky’s in San Leandro……..give him a holler.

    Al wanted a better stadium just like Jim Irsay. Al produced an elite franchise that had locker rooms designated for 25 baseball players. Oakland listened to one of Al’s nemesis Pete Rozelle because he told them Al cant move without his say so. Oakland actually believed that bull.

    Now Al got duped and believed LA could give him what he wanted. It had nada to do with celebs now you are just plain lying Bichy.

    Al wanted to comeback in the late 80s to Oakland because he saw how LA wasnt good for the team at all.

    Al screwed Irwindale because he knew he could get away with it. He never considered that place you fool.

    Now go run along to your wife. I’m sure the smoked dog she cooked is ready. Goodnite

  577. jhill Says:

    If Warren is so bad, why does he get doubled so much?

  578. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    wheres kanye west

  579. priesttj Says:

    Jhill, I ask that same question all the time,it is the most unbelievaable thing I read in here about this team. How they bash this guy and he had a good year if not a very good one. TK struggled at times but Warren played well. Yet he gets ripped in here like crazy. they just don’t know football………..period

  580. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # jhill Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    If Warren is so bad, why does he get doubled so much?

    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    Jhill, I ask that same question all the time,it is the most unbelievaable thing I read in here about this team. How they bash this guy and he had a good year if not a very good one. TK struggled at times but Warren played well. Yet he gets ripped in here like crazy. they just don’t know football………..period
    *********************************

    Both guys are wrong. Warren doesnt get double that much. Actually Tommy Kelly gets more double teams. Me and SnB explained this to your guys last year before the draft but you refuse to listen

  581. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Warren just tries to shoot the gaps and is awful as a run stuffer. He is plays like a UT. He is better suited to be where Kelly is. As the run stuffer for the defense he is past terrible

  582. RaiderRon Says:

    Funny post of the day…… Priesttj saying that someone ELSE doesnt know football. Classic.

  583. Dakota Says:

    F.U. CELTICS!

  584. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Celtics are old Dakota…….they are the 4th best team in the east now. Cleveland is taking the east and Lakers to soft to beat them. Hell Lakers gonna have hell with the nuggets this time around with no trevor ariza

  585. Richochet Says:

    Thanks for proving my point, Bree the Flea.
    Yeah, Al left for more money. He had sellouts. he had loyal fan base. He had a waiting list for season tickets.

    But he wanted more..and stated publicly he didn’t give a ratsass about the fans.
    Thanks for repeating what I stated.
    Good boy.
    Yeah, Al found out HE SCREWED UP when he took off for LaLaLand. And yeah, where else was he going to go? NO WHERE.
    Nothing else was ready. No one else wanted to deal with his back stabbing two faced ass.
    And thanks for repeating what I said about Irwindale..he did screw them. His greedy snake in the grass ways did take their money..but..also screwed himself FOREVER.

    No city..anywhere..will ever deal with the Snake.
    No city council in the country will ever trust the Slime.
    No fans in the country, INCLUDING OAKLAND, want anything to do with the worst run organization in sports.

    But hey? The good news? Monte Poole talked to you, lol…and yes, I’m just sooo happy for you.

  586. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Come on BHP make another excuse

  587. priesttj Says:

    RaiderRon, you want to test me? go for it.

  588. jhill Says:

    Of course were wrong B, lol!

    So are the coaches and everyone else who acknowledges the big plays we give up. Address the running plays over 10 yds, as well as our lack of offense, and our defense jumps up 10 spots easy.

    Terrence Cody at 8 and I’m wrong? lol!

  589. Richochet Says:

    Oh..and Bree?
    Vella has nothing to do with the Raiders anymore..not since they screwed him, as well.

    And yeah, he did move. Went from high rent district to low rent district.
    Not surprising..the shop in CV was dead all year.

  590. jhill Says:

    Lakers are too soft to beat Cleveland?!?!?

    LMFAO!

  591. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    Thanks for proving my point, Bree the Flea.
    Yeah, Al left for more money. He had sellouts. he had loyal fan base. He had a waiting list for season tickets.

    But he wanted more..and stated publicly he didn’t give a ratsass about the fans.
    Thanks for repeating what I stated.
    Good boy.
    Yeah, Al found out HE SCREWED UP when he took off for LaLaLand. And yeah, where else was he going to go? NO WHERE.
    Nothing else was ready. No one else wanted to deal with his back stabbing two faced ass.
    And thanks for repeating what I said about Irwindale..he did screw them. His greedy snake in the grass ways did take their money..but..also screwed himself FOREVER.

    No city..anywhere..will ever deal with the Snake.
    No city council in the country will ever trust the Slime.
    No fans in the country, INCLUDING OAKLAND, want anything to do with the worst run organization in sports.

    But hey? The good news? Monte Poole talked to you, lol…and yes, I’m just sooo happy for you.
    *****************************************

    Yawwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnn you just show everyday how much more of an idiot you can be.Didnt you just say Al left because he wanted to rub elbows with the celebs?

    You idiot the city of Oakland was going to give him and give 20 million to upgrade the stadium but Rozelle as usual wanting to screw Al over tried to block Al from getting what he wanted. I’ve said this already are you listening? Al wanted to stay but Oakland messed that up you moron.

    Hey Monte Poole is a cool guy and you know its not that big of a deal because sports writers are out and about as well. You are really reaching with that one

  592. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Vella has nada to do withthe Raiders anymore? LOL why does he sell Raider merchandise? Hahahahahaha right next to the biggest Raider bar in the world nonetheless!! My god Bichy you just arent bright are ya?

  593. Richochet Says:

    I’m your huckleberry, TJ. (I know, I know. You waved the white flag long time ago..but hey, I can still laugh at you, right?)

    Let’s review your in depth knowledge, shall we?

    · priesttj Says:
    November 26th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
    You ask some dumb questions Raiderman99 have you ever heard anyone say Russell is not talented?
    Ray Charles can see Russell has unlimited talent. It’s just his application and maturity that they question. If you can’t see the obvious talent it wont do you any good for me to tell you.
    Russell highly touted, Grads wasn’t even touted he was a small school hope he can. He’s a backup QB in anyones book. Except the geniuses in here.
    ============================

    You know, I must have blinked..what was that obvious talent..again?

  594. The Return of Godliness Says:

    And you are trying to cause confusion again and miss the point about Vella………….The guy was done afterthe 79 season right? You think he had no knowledge of the situation happening in Oakland with al and the city council? Come on man!! You are reaching again

  595. Richochet Says:

    Another gem from ya, TJ, lol
    #######################
    priesttj Says:
    November 26th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
    Grads will make them play Russell again before the year is out. He just can’t get it done at a hig enough level. He has no potential for greatness. Russell has a ton of potential he just needs to realize that.

    =============================
    Doesn’t potential really mean LOSER???

    Has anyone who DIDN’T SUCK ever have the “potential” tag?

  596. priesttj Says:

    Jhill, this little fraternity they have in here playing grabass. Stroking each others egos as if they know. I read a million times in here that BJ Raji was better than any DT we had, I read in here a million times how great DMC would be the 80 yard runs. Now Warren doesn’t get doubled. lol it just goes to show the lunacy that exist in here. The same guy who said Kelly sucks now says he gets doubled.

    Now that IS classic!!

  597. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # jhill Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    Of course were wrong B, lol!

    So are the coaches and everyone else who acknowledges the big plays we give up. Address the running plays over 10 yds, as well as our lack of offense, and our defense jumps up 10 spots easy.

    Terrence Cody at 8 and I’m wrong? lol!
    ******************************

    Terrence Cody at 8 hell yeah. He is our biggest need. Mcclain will be picked up by cleveland buddy so he is out. Cody at 8 is sure better than the first rounder we picked last year

  598. The Return of Godliness Says:

    bi*ch ass BHP you have never heard me say a damn thing about raji. That was pete and SnB with that BS

  599. Richochet Says:

    priesttj Says:
    November 26th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
    Well while that is not going to happen, you can almost pack Cable’s bags and get his bus ticket. He sld Grads to Mr Davis and if he doesn’t play well in the next two games Cable will almost certainly be fired. IMO
    The only offensive coach that I would retain is Hackett. I’d get a WR coach worth his salt. I hope mr Davis hires te GM and then let’s the GM hire the HC.
    ===============================
    Man…you’re all over the place..aren’t ya, TJ?

  600. Norco Bob Says:

    brian, are we gathering much support for Mike Vick yet?..Im on board dude.

  601. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # jhill Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    Lakers are too soft to beat Cleveland?!?!?

    LMFAO!
    **************************

    Exactly yes they are. Cleveland will punk the Lakers in the finals if they play. Who will beast cleveland in the paint in the nba? No one!!!!

    The lakers bench isnt that damn good. Fisher is slower and slower as each game goes by

    Team misses Ariza. Ron Ron’s legs are shot. He is a good player and all but he for damn sure will not make the plays ariza did for the lake show last postseason

    You laker idiots are in for a rude awakening

  602. RaiderRon Says:

    Priesttj,

    I have been reading your moronic posts and listening to your laughable appearances on the radio for years. I dont need to test you, I KNOW you dont know your arse from a hole in the wall.

  603. priesttj Says:

    Punk ass ignorant wretch wouldn’t know a player if he slapped yo’ ass. Shutup sit down and listen and learn from someone and then you might know something. But I highly doubt it.

  604. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Bob………….BHP is on board with Russell…….you know the guy that will lead us to the super bowl in two years

  605. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    Punk ass ignorant wretch wouldn’t know a player if he slapped yo’ ass. Shutup sit down and listen and learn from someone and then you might know something. But I highly doubt it.
    ************************

    That was pitiful BHP. Arent you like 60 years old?

  606. priesttj Says:

    then try me sucka, stop blowin’ smoke and show me.

  607. RaiderRon Says:

    Too bad the Cavs wont be there anyway that is of course they dont come up aces again and Garnett gets hurt. Only reason they made it last year.

  608. Richochet Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    Vella has nada to do withthe Raiders anymore? LOL why does he sell Raider merchandise? Hahahahahaha right next to the biggest Raider bar in the world nonetheless!! My god Bichy you just arent bright are ya?
    =======================
    lol…geez..you and Seymour/Oakglen should pool your thoughts..and remove your heads from your ass.
    That ignorant tool had about as much a grasp as you do..which is none.

    Vella doesn’t sell gear FOR THE RAIDERS, YOU DUMBASS.

    He sells NFL merchandise..has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE RAIDERS AT ALL. Nothing. Zero. Everything he orders, which includes walls of Niner things as well, is ordered from NFL properties, NOT the Raiders.

    And yeah, he moved, hoping to revive his dying business.
    And hoped the overflow from Ricky’s (which isn’t all that, quite honestly..pretty slow these days)would help. Can’t get any worse than it was, because, like the team, he was dead all year.

    Much like your whining posts, that constantly need schooling.
    told ya..glad to help…kind of a community service thang.

  609. The Return of Godliness Says:

    LOL now he is Booker T from pro wrestling………..SUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  610. priesttj Says:

    Your nothin’ but a fan with axe to grind. Some of my fans hate on me you must be one of them.

  611. Norco Bob Says:

    TJ,..Im still giving you a shout out tomorrow morning on Garys show.

  612. RaiderRon Says:

    Pretty sure thats happening as we speak with Rico posting your old posts. You are the running joke around here dude. Do you not realize that? Are you stupid enough not to realize the boys on the radio are totally making fun of you every time you call???

  613. Norco Bob Says:

    TJ you have fans? Bro are you drunk right now? Damn.

  614. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Bichochet you idiot……..who is Vella’s intended target? Raider fans or NFL fans? Hey why is Vella’s store relocated next to Ricky’s sports bar? Coincidence?

    And then again you miss the point on Vella not knowing anything bout the stadium issue in the times before the Raiders left.

  615. priesttj Says:

    Right on Bobby!!. I’ll be listening for ya’ maybe I’ll call ……not sure what to talk about but I’ll humor you.

  616. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Hey Bichy…….does John Vella sell 49er jerseys? How about Charger jerseys? No wait Chief jerseys?

  617. Richochet Says:

    Come on, TJ? You can’t be serious, pops.
    You’re the board motley fool.

    think about it.
    When Russell misses wide open receivers, you blame the O line.
    When Russell throws the ball behind the receivers, who come back to it, and get killed, you blame the receivers.
    When Russell holds onto the ball too long, with zero pocket awareness, you blame the O line.

    You don’t have any credibility.

    the fact you get beyotch slapped, regularly?
    And that you plead blindness to those that slap you down, at will? Just makes you look weak.

    And when/if Ron chooses to do the same? YOU’LL IGNORE HIS POSTS AS WELL, lol…hoping no one notices you getting slammed, with no defense.

    they notice.
    They laugh.
    Kind of like the radio hosts…you’re a joke, dude.

  618. Norco Bob Says:

    TJ,..call and lets get some Mike Vick support going…ok?

  619. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    Your nothin’ but a fan with axe to grind. Some of my fans hate on me you must be one of them.
    ********************

    no just expose your crybaby BS

  620. priesttj Says:

    Yeah right!! and you are clueless.

  621. Richochet Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    Hey Bichy…….does John Vella sell 49er jerseys? How about Charger jerseys? No wait Chief jerseys?
    =============================
    My neighbor bought a $400.00 signed Montana jersey from Vella.
    Yeah, HE DOES SELL NINER JERSEYS..Niner cups..Niner umbrellas..BRONCO HATS..Charger River jerseys…

    You didn’t know that? Oh that’s right..fall down drunks tend to forget things.
    Now..aren’t you glad you asked?

  622. RaiderRon Says:

    Priest,

    Seriously, do you know that those guys are making fun of you? Its an honest question.

  623. priesttj Says:

    You sure do follow me whereever I go it seems. Now why don’t you just try my football knowledge since you know more.

    Don’t get shy now.

  624. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Bob……….BHP has his great jamarcus russell why would he want vick, a guy who actually has show an ability to win a few games in the NFL?

  625. Norco Bob Says:

    TJ…you dont want Mike Vick here?…we need a qb,..Gradkowski probably isnt the answer,..or Frye,..so we need Vick,..theres no other option bro.

  626. Richochet Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    TJ,..call and lets get some Mike Vick support going…ok?
    ======================
    LMAO..who’s your gag writer?

  627. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    grizzlies whopin errbody. gon beat da lakers. zach randolph and rudy gay and marc gasol better than kobe , pau , & bynum

  628. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    Hey Bichy…….does John Vella sell 49er jerseys? How about Charger jerseys? No wait Chief jerseys?
    =============================
    My neighbor bought a $400.00 signed Montana jersey from Vella.
    Yeah, HE DOES SELL NINER JERSEYS..Niner cups..Niner umbrellas..BRONCO HATS..Charger River jerseys…

    You didn’t know that? Oh that’s right..fall down drunks tend to forget things.
    Now..aren’t you glad you asked?
    **************************************

    HAHAHAHAHA here we go with the lies again. Hey why dont you go buy a 49er hat and a crabtree jersey from Vella’s store lol

  629. priesttj Says:

    You idiot don’t you know that I know those people?

  630. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Chargers rivers jersey? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

  631. RaiderRon Says:

    Do you realize the radio dudes are making fun of you? Yes or no

  632. Richochet Says:

    priesttj Says:
    November 26th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
    Don’t gorget we’re watching the great Gradkowski, the next Gannon.

    priesttj Says:
    November 26th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
    Should we put Russell in now or later, why watse snaps on this lame?

    priesttj Says:
    November 26th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
    WOW, can it get any worse this guy is tooo small and to weak…………period
    Cable, admit you’re a FOOL and put the kid back in there………period

    ==========================
    Yep..LMAO at you, TJ…PERIOD. :mrgreen:

  633. priesttj Says:

    I would love Mike Vick here are you kiddin’

  634. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Oh my god…………hey Bichy why dont you go down to Vella’s store and purchase a patrick willis jersey and a matt cassell jersey for us please

  635. RaiderRon Says:

    You are a drunkn old man and every time your on the radio I am embarrased for you. Its uncomfortable to listen to actually.

  636. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    I would love Mike Vick here are you kiddin’
    *****************************

    As long as he doesnt play over the beloved Russell lol

  637. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Man where is Koo Koo Kell in all ofthis. This session would be a riot then

  638. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 5:57 pm
    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    Punk ass ignorant wretch wouldn’t know a player if he slapped yo’ ass. Shutup sit down and listen and learn from someone and then you might know something. But I highly doubt it.
    ************************

    That was pitiful BHP. Arent you like 60 years old?
    =====================================================
    LOL

  639. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # RaiderRon Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    You are a drunkn old man and every time your on the radio I am embarrased for you. Its uncomfortable to listen to actually.
    ***************************

    Should have been here earlier when he said the DT rotation was just fine and that the scheme was fine

  640. Richochet Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    Hey Bichy…….does John Vella sell 49er jerseys? How about Charger jerseys? No wait Chief jerseys?
    =============================
    My neighbor bought a $400.00 signed Montana jersey from Vella.
    Yeah, HE DOES SELL NINER JERSEYS..Niner cups..Niner umbrellas..BRONCO HATS..Charger River jerseys…

    You didn’t know that? Oh that’s right..fall down drunks tend to forget things.
    Now..aren’t you glad you asked?
    **************************************

    HAHAHAHAHA here we go with the lies again. Hey why dont you go buy a 49er hat and a crabtree jersey from Vella’s store lol
    ===============================
    Oh geez..are you honestly this stupid?

    SERIOUSLY?? Do you think a SINGLE OUTLET THAT SPECIALIZES IN ONE TEAM DOESN’T HAVE GEAR FOR ALL THE OTHER TEAMS IN THE AREA/STATE/DIVISION?

    Every Raider store sells Niner gear, you moron.

    Off Davis, next to SportsMart..another Raider store with Niner jerseys..AND HATS FROM EVERY TEAM IN THE LEAGUE..spread out throughout the store..including Charger, whoever, gear.

    See, you dumbass..only a fool would ONLY have Raider gear, especially when Raider fans are known for NOT spending their money.

  641. Norco Bob Says:

    Kells googlie machine is out of service, so he cant chime in. :(

  642. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 5:57 pm
    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    Punk ass ignorant wretch wouldn’t know a player if he slapped yo’ ass. Shutup sit down and listen and learn from someone and then you might know something. But I highly doubt it.
    ************************

    That was pitiful BHP. Arent you like 60 years old?
    =====================================================
    LOL
    ***************************

    I think BHP is really Willie Dynamite

  643. priesttj Says:

    RaiderRon, why don’t yu try me, since you know more stop evading the point.

    If you’re scared say you’re scared and we’ll move on..

  644. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    Hey Bichy…….does John Vella sell 49er jerseys? How about Charger jerseys? No wait Chief jerseys?
    =============================
    My neighbor bought a $400.00 signed Montana jersey from Vella.
    Yeah, HE DOES SELL NINER JERSEYS..Niner cups..Niner umbrellas..BRONCO HATS..Charger River jerseys…

    You didn’t know that? Oh that’s right..fall down drunks tend to forget things.
    Now..aren’t you glad you asked?
    **************************************

    HAHAHAHAHA here we go with the lies again. Hey why dont you go buy a 49er hat and a crabtree jersey from Vella’s store lol
    ===============================
    Oh geez..are you honestly this stupid?

    SERIOUSLY?? Do you think a SINGLE OUTLET THAT SPECIALIZES IN ONE TEAM DOESN’T HAVE GEAR FOR ALL THE OTHER TEAMS IN THE AREA/STATE/DIVISION?

    Every Raider store sells Niner gear, you moron.

    Off Davis, next to SportsMart..another Raider store with Niner jerseys..AND HATS FROM EVERY TEAM IN THE LEAGUE..spread out throughout the store..including Charger, whoever, gear.

    See, you dumbass..only a fool would ONLY have Raider gear, especially when Raider fans are known for NOT spending their money.
    **************************************

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh my god this is getting even funnier by the minute…………go get your patrick willis jersey from there then……….we will all wait. Nah better yet find a merriman jersey too lololololol

  645. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Kinda cool watching Johnnie Knox and DeShaun Jackson in the pro bowl…..

    Meanwhile, DHB can’t even average 1 catch per game.

    See, 1st round pick picks are supposed to contribute….even Terrence Cody’s wide self would be an immediate contributor on this team that is in BAD NEED of someone to clog up the middle.

    Watching DeSean Jackson and that bubble screen…

  646. Richochet Says:

    # RaiderRon Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    You are a drunkn old man and every time your on the radio I am embarrased for you. Its uncomfortable to listen to actually.
    =============================
    I agree..honestly, first time I heard him on there I couldn’t help but laugh.
    “next we have priest from Fremont”
    “ya’s..I tinks duh raiduhs needs to uses Jamahhhcus mores to gets sum perince fo him, cuz cable not be using him like dat when dey shoud be calling running plays for duh runner”

    I was like “WTF??? Are you SERIOUS??”
    Honestly, JR sounded very lucid compared to TJ.

  647. Norco Bob Says:

    Dang brees is a midget next to manning!

  648. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Every Raider store sells Niner gear, you moron.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA of my god im holding my gut here. someone please get the comedy routine to stop LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

  649. priesttj Says:

    Yeah like Bj Raji right SnB? what player should we draft after that SnB? come on give your assesment of how to biuld a winner? Every year you’ve got the answers, this year I want to see what bust you pick.

  650. jhill Says:

    The DT argument is ridiculous!

    OUr run defense gave up 25 plays of 20 yards or more. 6, SIX runs of over 40 yds.

    How are the DTs responsible for 20, 30, and 40 yd runs.

    Top 5 run defenses? Not one of them gave up more than 10 of those plays.

    If you don’t realize that has everything to do with tackling and gap control from your LBs, then you’re not being realistic.

  651. jhill Says:

    Watching DeSean Jackson and that bubble screen…

    ——————————————————

    Would be nice to see that play called for DHB! And reverse or two wouldn’t hurt either.

  652. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    Dang brees is a midget next to manning!
    **********************

    Yeah Brees is really about 5′10 and Manning is what………6′5

  653. priesttj Says:

    I see RaiderRon just RaiderRan…….all talk no show. just as I thought.

  654. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # jhill Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    The DT argument is ridiculous!

    OUr run defense gave up 25 plays of 20 yards or more. 6, SIX runs of over 40 yds.

    How are the DTs responsible for 20, 30, and 40 yd runs.

    Top 5 run defenses? Not one of them gave up more than 10 of those plays.

    If you don’t realize that has everything to do with tackling and gap control from your LBs, then you’re not being realistic.
    *********************************

    Raider DTs are responsible for all the positive yards teams get on us. You must be rolling one or two up when the team is on defense……trying to play defense lol.

  655. Richochet Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    ===============================
    Oh geez..are you honestly this stupid?

    SERIOUSLY?? Do you think a SINGLE OUTLET THAT SPECIALIZES IN ONE TEAM DOESN’T HAVE GEAR FOR ALL THE OTHER TEAMS IN THE AREA/STATE/DIVISION?

    Every Raider store sells Niner gear, you moron.

    Off Davis, next to SportsMart..another Raider store with Niner jerseys..AND HATS FROM EVERY TEAM IN THE LEAGUE..spread out throughout the store..including Charger, whoever, gear.

    See, you dumbass..only a fool would ONLY have Raider gear, especially when Raider fans are known for NOT spending their money.
    **************************************

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh my god this is getting even funnier by the minute…………go get your patrick willis jersey from there then……….we will all wait. Nah better yet find a merriman jersey too lololololol

    ==================
    Well, let’s bet, little man.

    Don’t puzzy out…come on, slapped on tool…put your money where your mouth is.

    My suggestion is you save your money, asswipe.
    I was the one who informed my neighbor about the Montana jersey, while I was at Vella’s in CV, when Dave Casper, and Phil Villipiano were there.

    OBVIOUSLY YOU’VE NEVER BEEN BY HIS SHOPS..otherwise you wouldn’t be setting yourself up for me to rub your ignorance in your face.

    too late, lol 8)

  656. priesttj Says:

    Jhill, now you see why I say these guy’s are just here to play grabass. A little lovefest for fools.

    But I have to salute you bro. you are a trooper.

  657. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    I see RaiderRon just RaiderRan…….all talk no show. just as I thought.
    *********************

    Uh Oh Old School gangsta is back to take it to us young punks………..WATCH OUT THERE NOW

  658. Norco Bob Says:

    TJ,…stop being such a homo.

  659. jhill Says:

    Raider DTs are responsible for all the positive yards teams get on us.

    ——————————————————-

    All of them?

    Damn! Why are we paying our LBs?

  660. priesttj Says:

    See what i mean Jhill? no freakin’ clue!!! lol

  661. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    ===============================
    Oh geez..are you honestly this stupid?

    SERIOUSLY?? Do you think a SINGLE OUTLET THAT SPECIALIZES IN ONE TEAM DOESN’T HAVE GEAR FOR ALL THE OTHER TEAMS IN THE AREA/STATE/DIVISION?

    Every Raider store sells Niner gear, you moron.

    Off Davis, next to SportsMart..another Raider store with Niner jerseys..AND HATS FROM EVERY TEAM IN THE LEAGUE..spread out throughout the store..including Charger, whoever, gear.

    See, you dumbass..only a fool would ONLY have Raider gear, especially when Raider fans are known for NOT spending their money.
    **************************************

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh my god this is getting even funnier by the minute…………go get your patrick willis jersey from there then……….we will all wait. Nah better yet find a merriman jersey too lololololol

    ==================
    Well, let’s bet, little man.

    Don’t puzzy out…come on, slapped on tool…put your money where your mouth is.

    My suggestion is you save your money, asswipe.
    I was the one who informed my neighbor about the Montana jersey, while I was at Vella’s in CV, when Dave Casper, and Phil Villipiano were there.

    OBVIOUSLY YOU’VE NEVER BEEN BY HIS SHOPS..otherwise you wouldn’t be setting yourself up for me to rub your ignorance in your face.

    too late, lol 8)
    **********************************

    You idiot I remember his first shop in the Castro Valley village in the late 80s so please spare me. Everyone has seen the Joe montana memorabilia shyt that is in a plaque. You were implying Vella is just selling 49er merchandise left and right as if he doesnt have a Raider store intended for Raider fans. You make it seem like its just an NFL shop and thats not true. I been to all of his shops and go quite frequently to the one right by bayfair mall now cuz i dont live too far from it

  662. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Bichy you are talking about the autographed joe jersey……….you know the same joe montana that said the Raiders were his favorite team growing up….the guy who who also came up to Al before a preseason game vs the Raiders and said he wanted out of SF becuz he felt steve young was brought in too replace him

  663. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Raji worked out well and the Packers are glad to have him. Injuries slowed him down early in the season…but he was solid and helped support the #1 ranked run defense.

    He has a ton more upside for his team than Darius Heyward-Bust will ever have for the Raiders.

    And Gerard Warren, going into his 11th year, will continue to be the pass rusher he is

  664. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Vella has a memorabilila wall with alot of area greats with signatures and such. Joe montana’s jersey had nada to do with selling 49er gear for 49er fans as you are trying to make it. Where isthe dwight clark jersey’s? The rice red ones? Roger Craig? Come on you are so lying here

  665. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Hey Bichy….again tell us about the Rivers jersey that Vella sells………that one is funny

  666. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Hey Jerry just go ahead and take the weekend off..

  667. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # jhill Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:27 pm

    Raider DTs are responsible for all the positive yards teams get on us.

    ——————————————————-

    All of them?

    Damn! Why are we paying our LBs?
    ******************************
    Hey im with ya and wonder why we have LBs since we allow scrubs on the dline year after year

  668. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    You highlight reel fans don’t get it. The game is dictated in the trenches. The teams that win the trench war win the game.

    Put Peyton Manning behind Tom Cable’s handpicked ZBS disaster and he would be nothing but a role player

    Put Ray Lewis behind Gerard Warren and TK…and he would be out of the league by now.

    You guys might like watching ESPN highlights showning the deep passes, long runs and hard hitting tackles…but its the guys in the trenches that make it possible.

    Sort of like electricity…you watch the tv and run the appliances and pay little attention to what is providing the power

  669. jhill Says:

    I’d hardly say that Raji contributed to that #1 defense. That is a stretch! We was a backup player the entire year. And unless Jolley is traded, he’ll be a backup again.

    Speaking of Jolley, that’s the fat guy we need to get.

  670. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    See what i mean Jhill? no freakin’ clue!!! lol
    ************************

    From the guy who said Russell will lead us to a super bowl in two years?

  671. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Hey OakGlen/SeyMour Bush/ Bs Detector, can hradly tell its you!

    LOL
    ____________________

    The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    You idiot I remember his first shop in the Castro Valley village in the late 80s so please spare me.

  672. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    You highlight reel fans don’t get it. The game is dictated in the trenches. The teams that win the trench war win the game.

    Put Peyton Manning behind Tom Cable’s handpicked ZBS disaster and he would be nothing but a role player

    Put Ray Lewis behind Gerard Warren and TK…and he would be out of the league by now.

    You guys might like watching ESPN highlights showning the deep passes, long runs and hard hitting tackles…but its the guys in the trenches that make it possible.

    Sort of like electricity…you watch the tv and run the appliances and pay little attention to what is providing the power
    ************************

    Ouch lol.

  673. priesttj Says:

    SnB, don’t play me boy! the way you talkedd about that guy he should started and went to the probowl if he was anything near what yu professed him to be. The Raiders got an undrafted FA to do what he did. Dez helped us and we’re glad to have him too…

    Rsji is just what I said he would be a bench player who was inconsistent and takes too many plays off not to mention he had bad ball location. He often had no idea where the ball was. lol

  674. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    To be sure, Kirk Morrison, Thomas Howard and the rest of Al Davis’s fleet footed “football players” have to go too!

  675. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Mistabr0wn Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    Hey OakGlen/SeyMour Bush/ Bs Detector, can hradly tell its you!

    LOL
    ____________________

    The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    You idiot I remember his first shop in the Castro Valley village in the late 80s so please spare me.
    _______________________________

    LOL my good friend Mista thinks I’m Oakglenn hahahahahahahahaha. Mista this is Bri3n right here. I been banned so much and my other great minkers arent allowed on this blog so i had to come up with this one

  676. The Return of Godliness Says:

    monikers*

  677. jhill Says:

    Highlight reel fan take is kinda played out. Right up there with do you watch the games, lol.

    It’s not rocket science man.

    Improve the Oline to get the running game going and give our QB some time to pass.

    That equals more first downs.

    Which equals more time our offense has the ball instead of theirs.

    Which means their RBs get less carries.

    Which means they get less yards.

    Which means our run defense gets better.

  678. Mistabr0wn Says:

    I thought Black Moses was the best thing since Koolaid now you want another inaccurate passer named Vick?

    LMAO

    ___________

    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    I would love Mike Vick here are you kiddin’

  679. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    SnB, don’t play me boy! the way you talkedd about that guy he should started and went to the probowl if he was anything near what yu professed him to be. The Raiders got an undrafted FA to do what he did. Dez helped us and we’re glad to have him too…

    Rsji is just what I said he would be a bench player who was inconsistent and takes too many plays off not to mention he had bad ball location. He often had no idea where the ball was. lol
    ****************************

    And raji is still better than any DT we got

  680. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Brian, you always had a thing for Oak now you’re talking like him !

    :D

  681. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Mista………Vick would be a huge upgrade over garbage ass Russell

  682. Mistabr0wn Says:

    tj dont know Qb’s
    ________

    Brian theres only 2 people that argue with Richocet, you and Oak. I forgot you use this name moniker.

    Welcome back!

  683. jhill Says:

    Gettin better LBs means those holes that the DTs open up get filled at least 5 yds after the fact INSTEAD OF 20, 30, AND 40 YD PLUS RUNS!

    5 yd gain instead of 20 yds gains equals better run defense.

  684. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Vick would be a very slight upgrade over JaMeatloaf, id rather go in a different direction.

    The point is tj has been licking Russells gonads for 3 years now he wants to upgrade Black Moses 2 Vick.

    Its hilarious.

  685. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    i would commit suicide if raiders even try out mike vick

  686. The Return of Godliness Says:

    LOL Mista well it isthe truth though i have been hittin up Vella’s shop since I was a kid. Never forget begging my mom for the picture dissing Los Angeles withthe sign saying Oakland 380 miles north. Vella still laughs when I mention it.

    Glenn is quite cool with me and naw I dont talk like him. Only one can sound this great

  687. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Mistabr0wn Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    tj dont know Qb’s
    ________

    Brian theres only 2 people that argue with Richocet, you and Oak. I forgot you use this name moniker.

    Welcome back!
    ***********************

    no Glenn argues with him while I slap his BS down to the flow

  688. priesttj Says:

    “Raji better than any DT we have”

    I’ll just consider the source of that comment. lol

  689. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Mista did you see the shed beating Obama took the other day? LOL awesomeness

  690. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    “Raji better than any DT we have”

    I’ll just consider the source of that comment. lol
    *************************************

    You mean the source who said there is nada wrong with the Raiders defensive scheme? lol

  691. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    yes we can! obama in 2012

  692. jhill Says:

    I can’t believe we are Mike Vick is even being mentioned in here.

    No fuggin way man! We already have our reclamation project to deal with.

  693. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # jhill Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    Gettin better LBs means those holes that the DTs open up get filled at least 5 yds after the fact INSTEAD OF 20, 30, AND 40 YD PLUS RUNS!

    5 yd gain instead of 20 yds gains equals better run defense.
    *************************

    You’re high lol

  694. Richochet Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:26 pm

    TJ,…stop being such a homo.
    ==================
    Bobbo? That’s so 80’s…

    Unless you’re talking about milk,…

    Ask TJ what he prefers…I’m sure he’s up to date.

  695. Mistabr0wn Says:

    0bama has taken so many beatings his lips are purple!

    Are you talking about the SOTU address where he got the facts wrong on the Supreme Court ruling in front of the Sup Court Justices?

    0bama was actually a lawyer you’d never know it. He is constantly sticking his foot in his purple mouth.

  696. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # jhill Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    I can’t believe we are Mike Vick is even being mentioned in here.

    No fuggin way man! We already have our reclamation project to deal with.
    *******************************

    Vick=better than Russell by far

  697. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Jhill,

    I am all good with drafting an O-Lineman to get the offense going.

    I say highlight reel because people envision a bruising MLB making the highlight reel hits all over the field. But then they neglect to see the NT up the middle holding two blockers at bay…allowing the MLB to run free.

    Show me a MLB that functions without out a credible lane clogger on the line.

    I am tired of seeing the backers, receivers, safeties come in here with all the fan fare and then turn into role players at best (see Huff)

    Time to build the lines. We will never win until the lines are at least average. That means DTs and O-Line.

    Anything else is a waste of time

  698. priesttj Says:

    Jhill, as articulate as you’re putting it they’ll still whiff on the info man. They don’t get the dynamics of the game. They get all their info from the blogger who has no freakin’ clue.

    But anything he feeds them they eat it up.

  699. jhill Says:

    I don’t know why some of you are sweating Obama over Hilary’s health care thing.

    Obama is just doing what he’s told and enjoying the ride.

    Breakfast with Kobe and taking in the Duke/Georgetown game?

    LMFAO! I bet that went over well with the take back the country crowd.

  700. Raiderglory34 Says:

    priesttj

    ok the what you fail to realise is that if you have someone to cover up the Mlb they can make plays period your not understanding that!!!!!! cody will help morrison out more then you know morrison getting blocked is why teams are running on them i watched every game when terams gashed us it was b/c guards and centers fb are pushing DT out of the way now no one will push cody out of the way if i had my wish id be the defensive coodinator plus if i worked with russell he would be a different QB

  701. Mistabr0wn Says:

    No you cant! The Country had enough of him in just 1 year!

    _______

    # SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    yes we can! obama in 2012

  702. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Mistabr0wn Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    0bama has taken so many beatings his lips are purple!

    Are you talking about the SOTU address where he got the facts wrong on the Supreme Court ruling in front of the Sup Court Justices?

    0bama was actually a lawyer you’d never know it. He is constantly sticking his foot in his purple mouth.
    ********************

    Well he does sure know about basketball lol

  703. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    Jhill,

    I am all good with drafting an O-Lineman to get the offense going.

    I say highlight reel because people envision a bruising MLB making the highlight reel hits all over the field. But then they neglect to see the NT up the middle holding two blockers at bay…allowing the MLB to run free.

    Show me a MLB that functions without out a credible lane clogger on the line.

    I am tired of seeing the backers, receivers, safeties come in here with all the fan fare and then turn into role players at best (see Huff)

    Time to build the lines. We will never win until the lines are at least average. That means DTs and O-Line.

    Anything else is a waste of time
    ********************************

    Agree

  704. Mistabr0wn Says:

    tj why are you here ?

    Didnt you promise to stay out ? Just because 0bama doesn’t keep his promises doesn’t mean you have to follow his act.

  705. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    Jhill, as articulate as you’re putting it they’ll still whiff on the info man. They don’t get the dynamics of the game. They get all their info from the blogger who has no freakin’ clue.

    But anything he feeds them they eat it up.
    *********************************

    Hahahahahahaha this is a post from a man who makes excuses

  706. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Priesttj,

    Green Bay had the number 1 ranked run defense this year. They were able to rotate Raji in with Pickett, Jolly and Jenkins…all of which weigh in at 305+

    Your boy DHB can’t even average 1 catch a game on the worst offense in the NFL

    We would have been 1,000x better off with Raji than with DHB. I’ll tell ya that.

  707. Mistabr0wn Says:

    I think 0bama is banging Peelosi on the d-low.

  708. Raiderglory34 Says:

    may you think the same way the defensive coodinator thinks thats why we are getting run on!!!! if the raiders do like i say and draft him then they will win more! and to the guy that talks about howard and morrison its hard to make a tackle when you are being blocked and the runningback is in your face

  709. jhill Says:

    Are you running out of football responses B? So what my weed is better than yours! Is that your answer to where the tackling is by the LBs and guys like Eugene?

    If it’s as you say and Warren and Kelly are getting knocked backwards, or not holding the point of attack, are they getting blown 10 yds off the line?

    Please explain to me how guys run UNTOUCHED for 20 yds?

    LMFAO!

  710. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Mistabr0wn Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    No you cant! The Country had enough of him in just 1 year!

    _______

    # SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    yes we can! obama in 2012
    ******************************

    Come on Mista! He had to takeover when things were so bad lol. Its all Bush’s fault

  711. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Mistabr0wn Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    I think 0bama is banging Peelosi on the d-low.
    *********************

    Obama is a on the down low but it aint with women lol…Larry Sinclair?

  712. Richochet Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    too late, lol 8)
    **********************************

    You idiot I remember his first shop in the Castro Valley village in the late 80s so please spare me. Everyone has seen the Joe montana memorabilia shyt that is in a plaque. You were implying Vella is just selling 49er merchandise left and right as if he doesnt have a Raider store intended for Raider fans. You make it seem like its just an NFL shop and thats not true. I been to all of his shops and go quite frequently to the one right by bayfair mall now cuz i dont live too far from it
    ===============
    Oh stop, sniveling boy.
    YOU STATED HE MUST BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE RAIDERS, BECAUSE HE SELLS RAIDERS GEAR.

    I simply schooled your ignorant ass that he selling NFL merchandise, and that he has NOTHING SETUP WITH THE RAIDERS.
    Also informed your dumbass that he sells gear from all teams.
    See, that’s where YOU asked me “Does he sell Montana jersey’s”

    Why do this to yourself, nitwit? What’s next? Mafia talk? lol…
    BREE THE FLEA: ‘OMG..they’re..THEY’RE IN THE MAFIA”.

    here, dumbass was your silly reply that got you scorched.

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    Vella has nada to do withthe Raiders anymore? LOL why does he sell Raider merchandise? Hahahahahaha right next to the biggest Raider bar in the world nonetheless!! My god Bichy you just arent bright are ya?

  713. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Raiderglory……..thomas howard is ok with me….Morrison can leave though. He isnt a middle linebacker

  714. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    so if these folks round da world think illuminati runnin hollywood, and music industry and errthang else. and skull and cross bone is a sign of that mason , boule crap. then why arent the raiders winning the super bowl every year

  715. Mistabr0wn Says:

    SATANFEARS, if you voted for Barback 0bama and got suckered into hope & change, transparency, no lobbyist, etc etc thats cool alot of people were like you, but to still be behind this clown after 2009 is just idiotic.

  716. priesttj Says:

    Glory34,I don’t fail realize anything man, I knw what the role of a DT is as well as a NT in a 3/4 scheme. That’s football 101 kid but that doesn’t STOP the run the entire defense is what stops the run playing disciplined sound football around the DT’s and tackling. DT’s DO NOT stop the run they KEY the run defense. The word nose tackle comes from playing the nose of the defense but it does no good if the players behind him don’t play sound football and tackle. And we don’t do that. get it.

    Without a great DT it is much harder to stop the run but THEY themselves do not stop the run the entire defense does…………..period

  717. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    well mistabrown. aint da country sick of stupid white dudes being the president ?

  718. Raiderglory34 Says:

    you cant expect rookie offensive linemen do good if you dont have the one veteran linemen to help him along soo yeah draft line but bring one real decent linemen in to help out our line is midage and blows nuts so bring a vet in

  719. Norco Bob Says:

    Brian, got an email from you know who,..raiders might open up again on MNF,..second game,..guess where?…lol,..you wont be attending!

  720. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    too late, lol 8)
    **********************************

    You idiot I remember his first shop in the Castro Valley village in the late 80s so please spare me. Everyone has seen the Joe montana memorabilia shyt that is in a plaque. You were implying Vella is just selling 49er merchandise left and right as if he doesnt have a Raider store intended for Raider fans. You make it seem like its just an NFL shop and thats not true. I been to all of his shops and go quite frequently to the one right by bayfair mall now cuz i dont live too far from it
    ===============
    Oh stop, sniveling boy.
    YOU STATED HE MUST BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE RAIDERS, BECAUSE HE SELLS RAIDERS GEAR.

    I simply schooled your ignorant ass that he selling NFL merchandise, and that he has NOTHING SETUP WITH THE RAIDERS.
    Also informed your dumbass that he sells gear from all teams.
    See, that’s where YOU asked me “Does he sell Montana jersey’s”

    Why do this to yourself, nitwit? What’s next? Mafia talk? lol…
    BREE THE FLEA: ‘OMG..they’re..THEY’RE IN THE MAFIA”.

    here, dumbass was your silly reply that got you scorched.

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    Vella has nada to do withthe Raiders anymore? LOL why does he sell Raider merchandise? Hahahahahaha right next to the biggest Raider bar in the world nonetheless!! My god Bichy you just arent bright are ya?
    *************************

    Typical off course reply from you Bichy. When did I ask did he sell montana jerseys? LOL reaching again. Put the bottle of ripple down man!

    You are scrambling and doing your best to make it seem like Vella isnt down with the Raiders anymore. And when I mentioned Vella in the first place I was speaking on his knowledge of the stadium dispute. He would know better than us right? Funny how you refused to even address that LOL.

    Hey who owns the Raiders the NFL or Al Davis? I’ll wait………….lol

  721. Norco Bob Says:

    the late game,..7:15

  722. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    mistabrown . really dude, fukk u and da horse u rode in on. i bet u never was against not 1 of them white muhfukkas like u are against obama

  723. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    Brian, got an email from you know who,..raiders might open up again on MNF,..second game,..guess where?…lol,..you wont be attending!
    *************************

    My god it better not be a 44-14 ass whipping like it was in 94 then

  724. Richochet Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:34 pm

    Vella has a memorabilila wall with alot of area greats with signatures and such. Joe montana’s jersey had nada to do with selling 49er gear for 49er fans as you are trying to make it. Where isthe dwight clark jersey’s? The rice red ones? Roger Craig? Come on you are so lying here
    ================
    WHAT???
    Clark jersey? Rice?
    WTF??
    HE SELLS NFL MERCHANDISE, FOOL..and yeah, he had signed Montana jerseys..so why play the fool and say that he should also have Clark jersey’s? Roger Craig?
    Idiot.
    If he had an autographed Rice? I guarantee you he’d have it in the frame, and for sale.

    Now you’re saying he doesn’t sell anything with Niners on it?
    Are you a glutton, or just stupid/stubborn?

    Hey..just state you blew it..you made a mistake..that your ignorant ass forgot he does sell Niners gear and THAT HIS GEAR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE RAIDERS, THAT IT’S ALL WITH THE LEAGUE.

    You even know what his beef with Al was about? Need help?

  725. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    he is doin change. and frankly i dont give a flat fukk if hes the worst president in presidential history. as long as hes black. he could be the worst high school president,. president of a book club/ long as he black

  726. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:57 pm

    so if these folks round da world think illuminati runnin hollywood, and music industry and errthang else. and skull and cross bone is a sign of that mason , boule crap. then why arent the raiders winning the super bowl every year
    *************************

    hahahahahahahahaha this guy is really lost then if he asked that question

  727. priesttj Says:

    SnB, stop trying to play me man, you know damn well DHB aint my man and never will be. So you can cut the angle. And face the facts Raji didn’t deliver the way you professed he would………….period

  728. Norco Bob Says:

    Yup,..dats the game it looks like…doubt I will go attend that one.

  729. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    so shut yur obama hating azz up man. well see how things end up. u wanna murder him after 1 year? ok ,, i guess pats shoulda fired bill belicheck after his first season . or raiders shoulda fired tom flores after his first 5 games. ,

  730. Mistabr0wn Says:

    I dont think the Country has a racist view like you do. I think the Country is sick of Govt running us into the ground. I dont usually talk to imbeciles but its slow in here so your the village idiot of the night..

    __________

    # SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    well mistabrown. aint da country sick of stupid white dudes being the president ?

  731. priesttj Says:

    I’ll tell you one thing about DHB I would bet he will have a better career longterm than Raji. That’s what I think of Raji.

  732. Richochet Says:

    # Mistabr0wn Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    Brian, you always had a thing for Oak now you’re talking like him !

    :D

    ==========
    Oh, lol..that’s right.

    Bree the Flea used to post “The gods on this board are OakGlen and priest”…
    I forgot about that.

  733. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:02 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:34 pm

    Vella has a memorabilila wall with alot of area greats with signatures and such. Joe montana’s jersey had nada to do with selling 49er gear for 49er fans as you are trying to make it. Where isthe dwight clark jersey’s? The rice red ones? Roger Craig? Come on you are so lying here
    ================
    WHAT???
    Clark jersey? Rice?
    WTF??
    HE SELLS NFL MERCHANDISE, FOOL..and yeah, he had signed Montana jerseys..so why play the fool and say that he should also have Clark jersey’s? Roger Craig?
    Idiot.
    If he had an autographed Rice? I guarantee you he’d have it in the frame, and for sale.

    Now you’re saying he doesn’t sell anything with Niners on it?
    Are you a glutton, or just stupid/stubborn?

    Hey..just state you blew it..you made a mistake..that your ignorant ass forgot he does sell Niners gear and THAT HIS GEAR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE RAIDERS, THAT IT’S ALL WITH THE LEAGUE.

    You even know what his beef with Al was about? Need help?
    **************************

    Hahahahahahahahahahahaha and the rivers jersey? you are trying to make the case vella’s store is just an NFL store lol like any other place.

    Vellas has memorabilia of baseball stuff and basketball stuff as well. You making it seem like there are sections in his store for other teams and shyt. coem on you are lying

  734. Mistabr0wn Says:

    tj you want me to dig up your post when you said numerous times DHB is better than Tim Brown & CLiff Branch ?

    tj this is why you are a buffoon and an ingrate, a complete and utter fraud.
    _______

    priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:04 pm

    SnB, stop trying to play me man, you know damn well DHB aint my man

  735. Raiders4eve Says:

    Why would Vick wanna come in here to compete with the franchise QB, if he wanted to compete he would remain as an Eagle. He is going to go to a place he can start. Do you guys realize he is the best QB in the market, there will be teams trying to get him and plug him as a starter. For one, I think Arizona would be a perfect fit, he would have all the offensive weapon needed. Arizona need a legit QB and they all know including the Wrs that Leinart is not the answer.

    Only way I see Vick coming here is if JR gets cut, remember Dungy advised Vick from signing with the Raiders, he would go to the Bills or Panthers before coming here.

  736. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    # Mistabr0wn Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    Brian, you always had a thing for Oak now you’re talking like him !

    :D

    ==========
    Oh, lol..that’s right.

    Bree the Flea used to post “The gods on this board are OakGlen and priest”…
    I forgot about that.
    ***************************

    sure did in 2008 then i staged a coup and took over cuz they werent rockin it right. I already posted about this before Bichy keep up

  737. The Return of Godliness Says:

    So Bichy, you remember that? What was your screen moniker then?

  738. Richochet Says:

    # SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    i would commit suicide if raiders even try out mike vick
    ============================
    Make it easy on yourself.
    Just try and think.
    that should do it.

    I hear the first times the hardest for some…some never recover.

  739. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    Yup,..dats the game it looks like…doubt I will go attend that one.
    *********************

    Hell no

  740. Mistabr0wn Says:

    tj go drink a jug of clorox

    friggin bonehead acts like nobody remembers what he said in here a trillion times..

  741. Raiderglory34 Says:

    lol cody will be a DT not NT b/c we run a 4-3 but with cody and seymour in the middle morrison will make plays let alone seymour will likely make the play since cody will draw doubles seymour will make more plays in the back field now said do you understand that!! or do i have to bring up urlacher getting hurt b/c he didnt have his normal DT’s they had. im not saying his DT had to be big but if you have a big DT with seymour playing DT then plays will be made not only it will help out seymour it will help out morrison howard and our ends once a team cant run up the midlle its and bounce outside game which plays into raiders game with MR #21 being solid tackler and decent saftey’s but like i said

    OLB howard
    MLB morrison
    OLB #1 pick if mcclain he will be sambacker

  742. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Hurry up Bichy what was your screen moniker back then?

  743. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    mistabrown wut hole do u live in ? ahahhahahha u said u dont think da country has a racist view. ahahahhahahahhahahahahhahaha :)

  744. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Raiders4eve Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    Why would Vick wanna come in here to compete with the franchise QB, if he wanted to compete he would remain as an Eagle. He is going to go to a place he can start. Do you guys realize he is the best QB in the market, there will be teams trying to get him and plug him as a starter. For one, I think Arizona would be a perfect fit, he would have all the offensive weapon needed. Arizona need a legit QB and they all know including the Wrs that Leinart is not the answer.

    Only way I see Vick coming here is if JR gets cut, remember Dungy advised Vick from signing with the Raiders, he would go to the Bills or Panthers before coming here.
    ***********************

    Fuk that Bible thumpin receding hairline bytch Dungy. I wonder did he mail Rex Grossman a ring

  745. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    ahahhahahahhahahahahhahahah

  746. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    america. doesnt have a racist view ? oh god, dat was too funny. di sdillusional muhfukka said the unites states of fukkin AMERICA!!!!!!!!! DOESNT HAVE A RACIST VIEW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  747. Raiderglory34 Says:

    ok i will agree about DHB hes highly underrated but he will show up not much next year but the one after
    in a way he reminds me of jerry porter raw talent i think we should have never let JP go he has the attitude

  748. Mistabr0wn Says:

    ahahhahahahhahahahahhahahah

  749. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    DAMN MISTABROWN U MUST LIVE IN BEL AIR? u got like 1 black friend with a nice neat short afro and big white teeth. and he shops at the gap. my god are u lost ?

  750. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Raiderglory……..you dont think there isnt anything such as a “nose tackle” in the 4-3?

  751. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Mistabrown is cool to me lol. dont know why so many dislike him

  752. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    this just in…. beep beep beepity beep!! RACISM HAS JUST MIRACULOUSLY DISSAPPEARED IN AMERICA!! AND RUSH LIMBAUGH IS NOW 190 POUNDS..

  753. priesttj Says:

    OK so you’re predicting we’re going to draft Cody? at #8 I can gaurantee we wont if he’s a Raider it will be much later.

    Also I’ve said over and over we run a 4/3 are you dense? that’s why I said he didn’t fit no disrespect to his ability it’s his penchant for getting way tooo fat. The fool gained 30 lbs’ since the season ended. lol If he gets down to 340 he can be very disruptive. But at his present weight he’ll give you 10 good downs a game. Cody is a slob……………period

  754. Mistabr0wn Says:

    I live in Richmond.

  755. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Raiderglory………i know you are down with cody but raiders need a nose tackle like guy to play the middle or we will get killed again

  756. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Mista you live in da rich? south or central? i know you arent in “narf”

  757. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Brian they dont like me becuz I keep it real and Im a crazy azz honkey from Richmond.

    lmao

  758. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    ricochet go watch seinfeld and jakk off to that chick with the big nose u prick

  759. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    OK so you’re predicting we’re going to draft Cody? at #8 I can gaurantee we wont if he’s a Raider it will be much later.

    Also I’ve said over and over we run a 4/3 are you dense? that’s why I said he didn’t fit no disrespect to his ability it’s his penchant for getting way tooo fat. The fool gained 30 lbs’ since the season ended. lol If he gets down to 340 he can be very disruptive. But at his present weight he’ll give you 10 good downs a game. Cody is a slob……………period
    *****************************

    Who guaranteed it? I just wanted him picked there never said we would did I?

    Did we run a 3-4 or 4-3 in 2002 with sam adams? I’ll wait BHP

  760. RaiderRon Says:

    Ok Priest, I am back had to run down to Whole Foods for some weekly rations. What were you looking to debate?

  761. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Mistabr0wn Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    Brian they dont like me becuz I keep it real and Im a crazy azz honkey from Richmond.

    lmao
    ********************

    crazy white dude lol. ive known quite a few from that area……….

  762. jhill Says:

    Mike Wauffle is out Oline coach and Marshall is our D Coordinator.

    Can I get an example of a fat guy like Cody that either of those guys have had success with? Why are we even talking about a 2 down DT that will be gassed by the 3rd qtr? Did dude make ONE play in the senior bowl?

  763. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWHKhyQoaIo&feature=related

  764. Mistabr0wn Says:

    LMAO

    Thats not a chick thats Kramer!
    _________

    # SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:19 pm

    ricochet go watch seinfeld and jakk off to that chick with the big nose u prick

  765. The Return of Godliness Says:

    BHP…………im waiting

  766. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # jhill Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    Mike Wauffle is out Oline coach and Marshall is our D Coordinator.

    Can I get an example of a fat guy like Cody that either of those guys have had success with? Why are we even talking about a 2 down DT that will be gassed by the 3rd qtr? Did dude make ONE play in the senior bowl?
    **************************

    Translation:”Cuz I got high becuz i got high because i got higgggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh”

  767. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    my president is black. my mustang is red. fukk yall dudes , cus im fina go to bed

  768. Raiderglory34 Says:

    yeah ther is a nose hes normally strong side but people dont understand what cody will bring to the raiders cody and seymour side by side will be sick morrison will roamer freesince his DT isnt get pushed back into his grill putting him out of posistion for one you dont have to be blocking someone all they have to do is be inthe way its hard to make a play if someone is in the way i know first hand i have played DT MLB and SS size doesnt matter heart and drive does but if raiders do as i say they can make the playoffs and i do know about drafting people for your scheme but that scheme should be scrapped cuz its not working period having your linebackers sitt 2 yards infront of your safteys lol are you kidding me

  769. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Hey Rey Maualuga was sure a 2 down LB this season lol

  770. priesttj Says:

    Waiting for what? common sense?

  771. Richochet Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    *************************

    Typical off course reply from you Bichy. When did I ask did he sell montana jerseys? LOL reaching again. Put the bottle of ripple down man!

    You are scrambling and doing your best to make it seem like Vella isnt down with the Raiders anymore. And when I mentioned Vella in the first place I was speaking on his knowledge of the stadium dispute. He would know better than us right? Funny how you refused to even address that LOL.

    Hey who owns the Raiders the NFL or Al Davis? I’ll wait………….lol
    ===================
    Talk about scrambling? lol..you idiot.
    YOU STATED Vella was tight with the Raiders because he sells their merchandise..adding “right next to the biggest raider bar’ as if that means anything..IT DOESN’T.
    Ricky’s got screwed by the Raiders…so did Vella.

    When did you ask if he sold Montana jersey’s????

    YOU ASKED:
    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    Hey Bichy…….does John Vella sell 49er jerseys?
    Montana jersey WAS A NINER JERSEY. so was the Gore jersey, moron.

    And save the stadium dispute..you don’t have a clue about that either..Still LMAO at you saying “Well, go ask Vella about the stadium”, moron.

    Asked what the beef between them was?
    guess you don’t follow much..Vella’s used to be called The Raiders Lockerroom.

    Raiders, after YEARS OF HIM USING IT, made him change it.
    Now Vella views Al Davis as a piece of crap.

  772. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Raiderglory34 Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:24 pm

    yeah ther is a nose hes normally strong side but people dont understand what cody will bring to the raiders cody and seymour side by side will be sick morrison will roamer freesince his DT isnt get pushed back into his grill putting him out of posistion for one you dont have to be blocking someone all they have to do is be inthe way its hard to make a play if someone is in the way i know first hand i have played DT MLB and SS size doesnt matter heart and drive does but if raiders do as i say they can make the playoffs and i do know about drafting people for your scheme but that scheme should be scrapped cuz its not working period having your linebackers sitt 2 yards infront of your safteys lol are you kidding me
    ****************************

    Strong side? Oh no not this again

  773. Raiderglory34 Says:

    dude MLB first cody second do you listen

  774. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Im begging you people stop talking to tj so he goes away..

  775. Raiders4eve Says:

    Guys

    Do you guys think AL Davis opens his checkbook and signs Peppers? Imagine we get Peppers in this D along with McClain, Cody in the second round and Michah Johnson in the third or fourth round. Peppers is a huge difference maker and will allow Seymour to move inside permanently. I am hoping we sign either Peppers or Kampman.

  776. jhill Says:

    Ted Washington, Parella, and Sam Adams …

    played the 4-3 but we didn’t spend a high draft pick on any of those fat dudes. Agree with Vegas that I’d gladly take a flyer on a fat guy under the same scenario that we picked up Washington and Adams.

    Hell, where is fat ass Grady? Our pick up Williams from SD after they cut him this offseason.

  777. RaiderRon Says:

    Priest says last April- ” We should have a top 10 defense next year. And Im basing that on the offensive firepower we will be able to unleash on oponents”

    Need I say more????

  778. Richochet Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    Hurry up Bichy what was your screen moniker back then?
    =============
    What are you talking about, peanut?
    Same as now.

    What? Drugs making ya stupid?

  779. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    *************************

    Typical off course reply from you Bichy. When did I ask did he sell montana jerseys? LOL reaching again. Put the bottle of ripple down man!

    You are scrambling and doing your best to make it seem like Vella isnt down with the Raiders anymore. And when I mentioned Vella in the first place I was speaking on his knowledge of the stadium dispute. He would know better than us right? Funny how you refused to even address that LOL.

    Hey who owns the Raiders the NFL or Al Davis? I’ll wait………….lol
    ===================
    Talk about scrambling? lol..you idiot.
    YOU STATED Vella was tight with the Raiders because he sells their merchandise..adding “right next to the biggest raider bar’ as if that means anything..IT DOESN’T.
    Ricky’s got screwed by the Raiders…so did Vella.

    When did you ask if he sold Montana jersey’s????

    YOU ASKED:
    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    Hey Bichy…….does John Vella sell 49er jerseys?
    Montana jersey WAS A NINER JERSEY. so was the Gore jersey, moron.

    And save the stadium dispute..you don’t have a clue about that either..Still LMAO at you saying “Well, go ask Vella about the stadium”, moron.

    Asked what the beef between them was?
    guess you don’t follow much..Vella’s used to be called The Raiders Lockerroom.

    Raiders, after YEARS OF HIM USING IT, made him change it.
    Now Vella views Al Davis as a piece of crap.
    ********************************

    LOL now a Gore jersey? Hahahahahahah tell me where the 49er section is at? The Joe montana plaque is against a memorabilia wall where baseball and basketball players stuff is at!! What dont you get about that?

    Hey what about that Rivers jersey again? lol

  780. Mistabr0wn Says:

    How do you debate a guy that said DHB is better than Cliff Branch & Tim Brown and 5 months later he says DHB isnt his guy.

    You people are mental as he is just for debating him..

  781. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Bichy everyone in the bay area knows about the dispute with vella and al…..please say something new you idiot.

    So what he views al Davis as a piece of crap? Alot of people do and your point?

    Well do you know more about the stadium issue the Raiders were having back then than Vella? I think not

  782. priesttj Says:

    It works Indy and Baltimore, It worked for the Giants, The niners even played great run D with a 305lbs. NT The Cards don’t have a Fat slob playing LDT The Cowboy’s play great run D without a fat slob playing LDT. So what make you think we desparately need this fat slob? the difference is thse teams have great offenses to support their defense.

    But I know that makes no sense to you guy’s. Ngata is huge but he is fit for his size which is about what Warren wieghs.

  783. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Bichy…….what part of the current store is designated for 49er jerseys and other NFL teams jerseys? I’d love to know this

  784. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Mistabr0wn Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    How do you debate a guy that said DHB is better than Cliff Branch & Tim Brown and 5 months later he says DHB isnt his guy.

    You people are mental as he is just for debating him..
    **********************

    You mean to tell me you dont find his replies even slightly hilarious?

  785. Raiderglory34 Says:

    what yal are failing to realize is cody doesnt have to make plays he has to eat blockers soo morrison and howard make plays and seymour will make more plays in the backfield and there is a thing called camp that the guys go to and work out and get into shaped thats what its about but it doesnt matter how he did in the senior bowl its about what he does behind the scene like gilbert brown he didnt make alot of plays he eat blockers for lunch

  786. Richochet Says:

    Ahhh…so you concede he DOES sell gear other than Raiders?

    Now..you’re on to ‘how much is designated”?? lol…WHO CARES, FOOL.

    Hell..your ignorant ass ran the “Of COURSE HE HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE RAIDERS, HE’S SELLING THEIR GEAR”.

    Only YOU and OakGlen/Seymour is that freaking ignorant…only you two.

    well…maybe a couple more.

  787. The Return of Godliness Says:

    According to Bichy……….Vella has a section of other NFL teams jerseys in his store. So 49er fans go there to buy 49er tee shirts, hats, umbrellas, shot glasses bumper stickers and all. Hey the other teams fans can do that as well lol

  788. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    Ahhh…so you concede he DOES sell gear other than Raiders?

    Now..you’re on to ‘how much is designated”?? lol…WHO CARES, FOOL.

    Hell..your ignorant ass ran the “Of COURSE HE HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE RAIDERS, HE’S SELLING THEIR GEAR”.

    Only YOU and OakGlen/Seymour is that freaking ignorant…only you two.

    well…maybe a couple more.
    *******************************

    Is that store a NFL merchandise store or is it geared for Raider fans?

  789. Richochet Says:

    Norco: “homo”
    Brownie: “you guy’s are mental”.

    Blast from the past.

    What’s next? ‘You’re a spaz”? lol

  790. priesttj Says:

    Glory we realize much more than you do what the function of the LDT is for, you’re the one that doesn’t realize you want a 2gap player on a 4/3 defense and I’ve told you 10 times Cody is much better suited in a 3/4 as a true 2gap NG……………..period

  791. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Bichy nice try at the double talk but it doesnt work here.

  792. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    Glory we realize much more than you do what the function of the LDT is for, you’re the one that doesn’t realize you want a 2gap player on a 4/3 defense and I’ve told you 10 times Cody is much better suited in a 3/4 as a true 2gap NG……………..period
    **********************

    And what did Sam Adams play here in Oakland? LOL

  793. Richochet Says:

    Don’t backtrack, you silly fool.

    You asked IF THEY EVEN SOLD NINER JERSEY’S..after you found out how ignorant you are, d that they DO, you’re trying to now run the ‘oh..well..which does he sell more’???

    Dude..you opened mouth, and inserted your foot.
    You always do.

    did you expect this to be any different?

  794. RaiderRon Says:

    WHAT??? Priest runnin like a beatch when someone throws his BS posts back in his face. Shocker!

  795. The Return of Godliness Says:

    See Bichy you are only here because you hate the Raiders so therefore anything you say will have always have a slant to it…….and it hardly is ever slanted towards the truth

  796. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Or Jerry Ball

  797. priesttj Says:

    Raidersglory34, let me put it to you in plain english, we run a 1gap system a penetrating 1gap system. Cody is a 2gap player every scout or GM on the planet will tell you that. That doesn’t fit what Marshall runs as a base system and if it doesn’t fit the base formation what would be the reason to bring in a 2gap player. It doesn’t make sense……………..period

  798. Richochet Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    According to Bichy……….Vella has a section of other NFL teams jerseys in his store. So 49er fans go there to buy 49er tee shirts, hats, umbrellas, shot glasses bumper stickers and all. Hey the other teams fans can do that as well lol
    ==========================
    Yeah…HE DOES, LMFAO.

    At christmas had 49er ornaments. Neighbor got his wife 49er socks. Also got her a 49er shawl.

    See…Castro Valley? MOSTLY NINER FANS..hell…the whole bay area is mostly Niner fans.
    Vella knows that.
    So does the RaiderLockerRoom..THE ACTUAL RAIDER LOCKER ROOM, on Davis..and they also sell Niner jerseys, Niner hats, Niner gear…MORON.

  799. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    Don’t backtrack, you silly fool.

    You asked IF THEY EVEN SOLD NINER JERSEY’S..after you found out how ignorant you are, d that they DO, you’re trying to now run the ‘oh..well..which does he sell more’???

    Dude..you opened mouth, and inserted your foot.
    You always do.

    did you expect this to be any different?
    ***********************************
    So let me see here…….one signed montana jersey in plaque constitutes that vella just sells 49er jerseys right? lol come on i know you can come better than this

  800. priesttj Says:

    RaiderRon I’m here son, now why don’t you just try my knowledge and stop whinning??

    Go for it………..what do you have?

  801. Richochet Says:

    # RaiderRon Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    WHAT??? Priest runnin like a beatch when someone throws his BS posts back in his face. Shocker!
    ===============
    He excels at that.

    Once you make sense? He’s GONE WITH THE WIND..tuck tail, whimpers off…lol..and even posts “I’m JUST POSTING THIS TO SO AND SO” HOPING everyone won’t ream him.

    It never works..we still do :mrgreen:

  802. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    According to Bichy……….Vella has a section of other NFL teams jerseys in his store. So 49er fans go there to buy 49er tee shirts, hats, umbrellas, shot glasses bumper stickers and all. Hey the other teams fans can do that as well lol
    ==========================
    Yeah…HE DOES, LMFAO.

    At christmas had 49er ornaments. Neighbor got his wife 49er socks. Also got her a 49er shawl.

    See…Castro Valley? MOSTLY NINER FANS..hell…the whole bay area is mostly Niner fans.
    Vella knows that.
    So does the RaiderLockerRoom..THE ACTUAL RAIDER LOCKER ROOM, on Davis..and they also sell Niner jerseys, Niner hats, Niner gear…MORON.
    ***************************

    LOL this guy is an idiot!!! I’m done. Castro Valley store is not up you fukkin clown! Yawwwwwwwnnnnnn

    Once again he is lying like vella’s place is just an NFL merchandised store hahahahahahahahahahahaha

  803. Raiderglory34 Says:

    giants b-more and indy have better coordinators too and also have an offense like you said earlier to keep there defense off the fields hmmm do you ilsten to yourself hmmm guess not!! but to Raiders4eve yeah if we picked up peppers yeah seymour and that dline would be nasty but highly unlikely will happen i think we have great end already but seymour is taking a spot at end when yhe should be inside period with cody and seymour once again will be a better lineup then what we have now and dline will make alot more plays and get turnovers

  804. priesttj Says:

    Sam Adams played the same position Warren is playing a 1gap LDT position or don’t you know that?

  805. The Return of Godliness Says:

    First off you idiot the 49ers are an older franchise than the Raiders so I’d expect more fans but to say the bay area is mostly 49er fans is a damn lie. This isthe bay area and many people arent from here. You are now just plain lying. Typical of a 49er

  806. Richochet Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    See Bichy you are only here because you hate the Raiders so therefore anything you say will have always have a slant to it…….and it hardly is ever slanted towards the truth
    ==================
    awwwww…aren’t you just so special?
    Now you’re crying?

    lol…poor kid.

    Hey..uh..so..considering you’re the cross posting champ (along with Glenny/CapptBlack/Semour) you honestly don’t recall me slapping your sorryass down as Richochet last training camp?

    You getting stupid on me?

  807. priesttj Says:

    Raiderglory34, give it up brotha…..you just have no clue what the hell you’re talking about………..period John Marshall is one of the better DC’s in the business. You’re just talking out of rearend. Plain and simple.

  808. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    Sam Adams played the same position Warren is playing a 1gap LDT position or don’t you know that?
    ***********************************

    LOL my god Priest stop. Go watch 2002 games and then the last 2 years og warren and tell me they were playing the same. Parella and Adams were the DTs in the middle lol. Who was the pass rusher now?lol

  809. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    See Bichy you are only here because you hate the Raiders so therefore anything you say will have always have a slant to it…….and it hardly is ever slanted towards the truth
    ==================
    awwwww…aren’t you just so special?
    Now you’re crying?

    lol…poor kid.

    Hey..uh..so..considering you’re the cross posting champ (along with Glenny/CapptBlack/Semour) you honestly don’t recall me slapping your sorryass down as Richochet last training camp?

    You getting stupid on me?
    *******************************

    And what was your screen moniker in 2008? Please im waiting for this answer

  810. RaiderRon Says:

    Test your knowledge?? Are you serious? Hold on a sec and I will get my NFL knowledge quiz book out. F-in clown. Why dont you try and explain the post from you I just quoted from. Cant wait.

  811. jhill Says:

    Glory,

    I have no problem with a guy like Cody in Rd 2 or 3. I’d actually prefer to trade for a veteran like Jolley or Wilfork though.

    I like Iupati at 8. Gallery and Iupati make me feel a whole lot better about Satele in the middle. I have to think that Satele will be better in year 2 with the Raiders and an offseason that doesn’t include rehabbing a broken shoulder. Gallery-Satele-Iupati shold equal a lot more short yardage and goal line conversions.

    Also need to figure out what we are going to do at FB. Is Reece going to be that guy? Or will we pretty much go single back? Can’t possibly envision another season with Lawton back there.

  812. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    Raiderglory34, give it up brotha…..you just have no clue what the hell you’re talking about………..period John Marshall is one of the better DC’s in the business. You’re just talking out of rearend. Plain and simple.
    *********************

    Oh yeah? How come no improvements occurred with the defense?

  813. Richochet Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    First off you idiot the 49ers are an older franchise than the Raiders so I’d expect more fans but to say the bay area is mostly 49er fans is a damn lie. This isthe bay area and many people arent from here. You are now just plain lying. Typical of a 49er
    =======================
    Everyone knows there are a ton more Niner fans than Raider fans in the bay area…simple fact.

    Many people aren’t from EVERY CITY IN THE COUNTRY. What does that have to do with the ratio of fans?
    Hell, Niners have sold out almost 300 STRAIGHT GAMES…Raiders, after game one, were BLACKED OUT EVERY GAME.
    No comparison..

    You’re not doing too well, are you, Flea?

  814. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Bichy I got one question for ya okay then I’m done wit ya……………………..

  815. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Its a damn shame Jerry cant zap somebody with electricity everytime they talk to tj

  816. Raiderglory34 Says:

    well do the raiders have somone that can play 2 gaps no the coordinatormay be runnning a system that goes with what he has! now our players are going to one gap and the runningbacks are going to another lol now if you have a dt that bring 2 blocke5r which we dont have now with cody we will guess what that 2 blockers that arent blocking LBs lol are you serious thats common sense which you must not haveF the sceme you bring a players that brings the ability period like im saying cody is better than any DT we got and will bring more the the raider then all but one DT in the draft and hes going #1 overall

  817. priesttj Says:

    Jhill, we oughta start our own scouting service and sell subscriptions to these chumps. lol

  818. The Return of Godliness Says:

    You speak of castro valley and such……how come during the 2007 castro valley parade did a bunch of raider fans carry a large banner saying “Vella’s Locker Room Oakland Raider Merchandise”?

  819. Seymour Bush Says:

    Once the Santa Clara Stadium deal ends up in the dumper which is all but guaranteed, the Whiners are on their way to LA. It’s already a done deal.

  820. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Mistabr0wn Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    Its a damn shame Jerry cant zap somebody with electricity everytime they talk to tj
    *****************

    I’d build an immunity to it lol

  821. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    Once the Santa Clara Stadium deal ends up in the dumper which is all but guaranteed, the Whiners are on their way to LA. It’s already a done deal.
    ******************************

    Yeah Santa Clara voters will go against it. Jed York knows it and thats why we wants to look at Oakland now to play. He was just on TV this week saying as such. But he did say LA wasnt an option but people lie example:Bichy

  822. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    Jhill, we oughta start our own scouting service and sell subscriptions to these chumps. lol
    ***********************

    Business would be bad if that’s the case

  823. RaiderRon Says:

    Priest,

    Im waiting for your response. Come on son, lets hear it.

  824. Raiderglory34 Says:

    if our DC is the best in the business why is our linebackers sitting back with e safteys answer that question answer that ok when that offense is play good and we are up the f defense gives the game away b/c of the play calling from the cordinator

  825. RaiderRon Says:

    lol!!! Priests trying to get himself a friend. Im sure JHill is so proud to allign himself with Priest.

  826. Seymour Bush Says:

    I think you are the one who everyone should ignore mistabrown wipe.

    # Nnamdi21 Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
    # Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    Mista brOwn is a French shower.
    =======================================

    I always wondered what mistabrOwn actually meant. But after watching everyone wipe their asses with this turd for the last three weeks, now I know why he calls himself mistabrOwn.

    =============================

    LMFAO!

  827. priesttj Says:

    Hey clueless, as I’ve stated several times they have zero offense to support them and issues at MLB. I don’t think there’s much a Dc can do about that that he didn’t rty to do. He schemed and did everything he could but players play and coaches coach.

    Class session is over, and I’m bored and tired.

    Adios

  828. Richochet Says:

    Why did they advertise?
    lol…you want to know why they advertised?
    TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THEY’RE THERE????

    gosh..do I win a prize?

    Oh..I see…you want to know why they didn’t put “Oh, and we also have Giant hats, Steeler pens, and GB stickers”??

    is that your ignorant question?

    Dude..you’re toast..yeah..YOU’RE DONE..so shut the hell up..now you’re just looking pathetic.
    You’re approaching Priest level..that’s no BS.

    You go from “they DON’T SELL ANYTHING BUT RAIDER THINGS” to “what do they sell more of”???
    From “do they EVEN SELL NINER JERSEY’S” to “what percentage of the store sells Niner jersey’s”??

    You got schooled, fool..and yeah..like I said..as USUAL, you’re TOAST..Now..shut up, Priest..I mean..Bree.

  829. jhill Says:

    Priest,

    The comedy acts are in full effect tonight. You seem to bring out a lot of “characters”, lol but I do agree with them that you tend to throw the initial blow. I guess a lot of people really seem to think your finger is pointed at them when you mention words like clueless, and head up your ass.

    I think it’s hilarious that you and B are still going at it though. All over N word sensitivity? CMON! Why do really give a fugg what someone else thinks?

    I still laugh that you bailed out of here because of other people’s frustrations with Russell. It’s a blog man. Bang the drum, lol!

  830. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    First off you idiot the 49ers are an older franchise than the Raiders so I’d expect more fans but to say the bay area is mostly 49er fans is a damn lie. This isthe bay area and many people arent from here. You are now just plain lying. Typical of a 49er
    =======================
    Everyone knows there are a ton more Niner fans than Raider fans in the bay area…simple fact.

    Many people aren’t from EVERY CITY IN THE COUNTRY. What does that have to do with the ratio of fans?
    Hell, Niners have sold out almost 300 STRAIGHT GAMES…Raiders, after game one, were BLACKED OUT EVERY GAME.
    No comparison..

    You’re not doing too well, are you, Flea?
    **************************

    Ton more? No i doubt that but there are more i wont deny that.

    Wait many people in this area arent from many cities in america? LOL wow and this idiot is oblivious to the fact that the bay area is the most diverse place in the USA.

    Who gives a damn about blackouts. Go look at the 49er stadium during the games it isnt even full. Them rich bandwagoners as ive told you have bought tickets way in advance. If SF is so great how come they are moving from there? Cuz candlestick is trash for many reasons and people dont wanna show up

  831. RaiderRon Says:

    LOL!!!!! Run Priest run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  832. Seymour Bush Says:

    The Raiders are not going to share the Coliseum with the Whiners. Which means

    a) Combined stadium on Treasure Island-not going to happen
    b) Santa Clara Whiner Stadium-not going to happen
    c) Stay playing in the Stick, worst stadium in the leage-No
    d) Move to LA-bingo

  833. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    I think you are the one who everyone should ignore mistabrown wipe.

    # Nnamdi21 Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
    # Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    January 30th, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    Mista brOwn is a French shower.
    =======================================

    I always wondered what mistabrOwn actually meant. But after watching everyone wipe their asses with this turd for the last three weeks, now I know why he calls himself mistabrOwn.

    =============================

    LMFAO!
    ================
    Are you just precious, OakGlen?

    didn’t you copy and paste that exact thing yesterday, or day before?
    and now, in your desperate little attempt to comment on Brownie, you paste it again..and LMFAO again?

    Are you easily entertained, or just short of your own material?

  834. priesttj Says:

    Run from what sissy what do you have that would make me run. What????

  835. Raiderglory34 Says:

    to me the coordinator has asmuch to do with loosing as the offense so to me yeah our DC blows period no blitzing just sit back and let the offense pick us apart so no the DC isnt the best or even near the best in the league

  836. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    Why did they advertise?
    lol…you want to know why they advertised?
    TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THEY’RE THERE????

    gosh..do I win a prize?

    Oh..I see…you want to know why they didn’t put “Oh, and we also have Giant hats, Steeler pens, and GB stickers”??

    is that your ignorant question?

    Dude..you’re toast..yeah..YOU’RE DONE..so shut the hell up..now you’re just looking pathetic.
    You’re approaching Priest level..that’s no BS.

    You go from “they DON’T SELL ANYTHING BUT RAIDER THINGS” to “what do they sell more of”???
    From “do they EVEN SELL NINER JERSEY’S” to “what percentage of the store sells Niner jersey’s”??

    You got schooled, fool..and yeah..like I said..as USUAL, you’re TOAST..Now..shut up, Priest..I mean..Bree.
    ***************************

    You havent said anything yet. You are too dumb to school anyone. Castro Valley people have always known Vella was there. It was a parade you idiot….you know like the one you and your life partner Senorita Beecher attend in SF every year. They have been doing that as have other Castro Valley businesses for that annual parade. you are completely reaching and that’s a sign of getting waxed again

  837. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    The Raiders are not going to share the Coliseum with the Whiners. Which means

    a) Combined stadium on Treasure Island-not going to happen
    b) Santa Clara Whiner Stadium-not going to happen
    c) Stay playing in the Stick, worst stadium in the leage-No
    d) Move to LA-bingo
    ****************************

    That surely can go down.

  838. Richochet Says:

    · Oakglenn Says:
    April 8th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
    # Dude Says:
    April 8th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
    The whole WORLD thinks Russell is headed for the scrap heap
    ——————————————————
    Your barcolounger world dude. That’s why every single coach, GM, announcer, and now the networks are gushing over this guy. Because he is a bust? This dude guy is hilarious. You should try comedy central dude.

    ———————–
    Hey Seymour/GlennyPoo..you still embarrassed about all your stupid shytt? is that why you bailed?

  839. priesttj Says:

    Jhill, Don’t care what that kid thinks I left this blog because I got bored with the conversation in here. I get bored from time to time and just find something better to do.

    Naw!! these guy’s make me tired you can only lead them to the water you can’t make them drink. And some are really stupid.

  840. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Bichy i notice you dodge questions……..who knows more about the issues back in the day with the stadium you or John Vella? You still keep avoiding this

    What was your screen moniker back in 2008? Please stop hiding

  841. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    Jhill, Don’t care what that kid thinks I left this blog because I got bored with the conversation in here. I get bored from time to time and just find something better to do.

    Naw!! these guy’s make me tired you can only lead them to the water you can’t make them drink. And some are really stupid.
    ***************************

    You are drunk

  842. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Raiderglory34 Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    to me the coordinator has asmuch to do with loosing as the offense so to me yeah our DC blows period no blitzing just sit back and let the offense pick us apart so no the DC isnt the best or even near the best in the league
    **************************

    BHP makes excuses man. Marshall is awful because his puppet act still led to bottom ranking defense

  843. Raiderglory34 Says:

    lol problem at MLB do you listen the DT is the problem! morrison isnt the reason the MLB is great he getting blocked b/c the DT isnt doing his job take this in who does the runningback get to first hmmm the DT now if the DT is shooting a gap the wrong gap which is the case 9-10 guess what the middle backer is getting a blocker in his grill lol

  844. priesttj Says:

    see what I mean??

  845. Mistabr0wn Says:

    lmao @ this place!!!

  846. Mistabr0wn Says:

    We truly hate each other its so beautiful!!! Its like Utopia..

    :D

  847. The Return of Godliness Says:

    glory34………..morrison still would miss tackles and show a lack of instincts. Get a real MLB who can shed blocks and not miss tackles.

  848. Seymour Bush Says:

    The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    You havent said anything yet.
    ==========================================

    TROG, he never says anything. He’s an internet troll, the lowest form of life.

  849. priesttj Says:

    Glory34,do you listen to the coaches son? are you that blind? the coaches have been saying sincew preseason that that position neeeded to get better.

    Morrison knows it he almost lost his job. get a frakin’ clue will ya’

  850. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Mista it sure is fun for me

  851. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Hey tj , your left tit Oakmour is here!!!

    Like fam reunion..

  852. Richochet Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    First off you idiot the 49ers are an older franchise than the Raiders so I’d expect more fans but to say the bay area is mostly 49er fans is a damn lie. This isthe bay area and many people arent from here. You are now just plain lying. Typical of a 49er
    =======================
    Everyone knows there are a ton more Niner fans than Raider fans in the bay area…simple fact.

    Many people aren’t from EVERY CITY IN THE COUNTRY. What does that have to do with the ratio of fans?
    Hell, Niners have sold out almost 300 STRAIGHT GAMES…Raiders, after game one, were BLACKED OUT EVERY GAME.
    No comparison..

    You’re not doing too well, are you, Flea?
    **************************

    Ton more? No i doubt that but there are more i wont deny that.

    Wait many people in this area arent from many cities in america? LOL wow and this idiot is oblivious to the fact that the bay area is the most diverse place in the USA.

    RICHOCHET: c’mon moron, pay attention. I said EVERY CITY has lots of people that didn’t originate there. Not that hard to follow along. Try it.
    #############################

    Who gives a damn about blackouts. Go look at the 49er stadium during the games it isnt even full. Them rich bandwagoners as ive told you have bought tickets way in advance. If SF is so great how come they are moving from there? Cuz candlestick is trash for many reasons and people dont wanna show up
    =========================
    Now you’re complaining that the Niners sell out, but that some people don’t go?
    And “if they’re great, why are they moving from there”?? lol…geez..how old are you?

    HOW ABOUT BECAUSE CANDLESTICK IS THE OLDEST STADIUM IN THE LEAGUE? And that there isn’t any room anywhere for a new stadium? That the current place sucks for access and parking?
    You needed that answered? seriously..do you think before you post?

  853. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    You havent said anything yet.
    ==========================================

    TROG, he never says anything. He’s an internet troll, the lowest form of life.
    *******************

    Aw leave bichy alone he is quite funny when he gets off the Ripple. If you see his posts then you will a guy who is basically saying the NFL owns the Raiders and that any stuff that is sold the Raiders had nada to do with it at all! LOL Raiders get nada when there stuff is sold hahahahahahahaha

  854. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    You havent said anything yet.
    ==========================================

    TROG, he never says anything. He’s an internet troll, the lowest form of life.
    ===============
    I’ve had the same name since DAY ONE..your sorryass is known by EVERYONE as the board troll…that prior to registering, you would have complete conversations with yourself.
    Dude..the biggest puzzy on this board is you, as Oakglen, and even you knew it..that’s why you tucked tail and bowed out..and that’s why you’re so embarrassed you can’t admit it.

    Pretty funny watching you try and prop your old handle, hoping you came across as less of a target.

    You didn’t, lol..not at all.

  855. priesttj Says:

    Mista, I can see your thrilled about it.!! “family reunion”

    If he is here listen to him, you could use it.

    Adios

  856. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    First off you idiot the 49ers are an older franchise than the Raiders so I’d expect more fans but to say the bay area is mostly 49er fans is a damn lie. This isthe bay area and many people arent from here. You are now just plain lying. Typical of a 49er
    =======================
    Everyone knows there are a ton more Niner fans than Raider fans in the bay area…simple fact.

    Many people aren’t from EVERY CITY IN THE COUNTRY. What does that have to do with the ratio of fans?
    Hell, Niners have sold out almost 300 STRAIGHT GAMES…Raiders, after game one, were BLACKED OUT EVERY GAME.
    No comparison..

    You’re not doing too well, are you, Flea?
    **************************

    Ton more? No i doubt that but there are more i wont deny that.

    Wait many people in this area arent from many cities in america? LOL wow and this idiot is oblivious to the fact that the bay area is the most diverse place in the USA.

    RICHOCHET: c’mon moron, pay attention. I said EVERY CITY has lots of people that didn’t originate there. Not that hard to follow along. Try it.
    #############################

    Who gives a damn about blackouts. Go look at the 49er stadium during the games it isnt even full. Them rich bandwagoners as ive told you have bought tickets way in advance. If SF is so great how come they are moving from there? Cuz candlestick is trash for many reasons and people dont wanna show up
    =========================
    Now you’re complaining that the Niners sell out, but that some people don’t go?
    And “if they’re great, why are they moving from there”?? lol…geez..how old are you?

    HOW ABOUT BECAUSE CANDLESTICK IS THE OLDEST STADIUM IN THE LEAGUE? And that there isn’t any room anywhere for a new stadium? That the current place sucks for access and parking?
    You needed that answered? seriously..do you think before you post?
    ************************

    Thank you for proving my point………the stadium is not full throughout the course of the year. Thank you for playing and now a word from our sponsors lol

  857. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Oakmour Bush comes in here using all Oakglenns phrases and acts like we dont know its him. He even resumed his fued with Richocet….lmao

  858. Richochet Says:

    Hey, SeyMoronGlen?
    Remember this?
    ################33
    Oakglenn Says:
    April 14th, 2009 at 8:15 am
    Dude Says:
    April 14th, 2009 at 8:08 am
    Lifer,
    What exactly makes you believe anything is changing?
    ———————————————————
    The Raiders were 3-3 in their last 6 winning their last two in a row. They had not won two games in December since the 2002 season. You would have to be a complete grade A moron to NOT believe things are changing.

  859. Richochet Says:

    Mistabrown Says:
    April 2nd, 2009 at 9:56 pm
    Jerry is it true OakGlenn tried to reg 65 screen names ?

  860. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    You havent said anything yet.
    ==========================================

    TROG, he never says anything. He’s an internet troll, the lowest form of life.
    ===============
    I’ve had the same name since DAY ONE..your sorryass is known by EVERYONE as the board troll…that prior to registering, you would have complete conversations with yourself.
    Dude..the biggest puzzy on this board is you, as Oakglen, and even you knew it..that’s why you tucked tail and bowed out..and that’s why you’re so embarrassed you can’t admit it.

    Pretty funny watching you try and prop your old handle, hoping you came across as less of a target.

    You didn’t, lol..not at all.
    ******************************
    Man you were not on here in 2008 you damn liar

  861. The Return of Godliness Says:

    49er stadium gets ran by opposing teams constantly! Many times the opposing fans have drowned out the 49er fans. Remember the chargers in 2006? LOL that was sure funny. Titan fans did it this year. Eagles fans did it last year lol

  862. Raiderglory34 Says:

    lol that coach runs a linebackers sitting at the saftey sceme lol you make no sense dude i dont care if you bring ray lewis in as our MLB it still wont work

  863. lefty12 Says:

    one has to wonder where Indy’s,NE’s and NO’s Def. would rank if they didn’t have capable offensives that didn’t go 3 and out so often!Also,i can’t count the number of times i’ve heard it said that our LBs CAN’T shed blocks and make plays.Maybe our DTs aren’t all pros,but they aren’t the problem.

  864. Richochet Says:

    2008??? WTF?? Was here training camp of this LAST YEAR..who the hell mentioned 2008?

    told you..STAY OFF THE DRUGS.

  865. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Bichy what was your moniker in 2008? The one you are using now was not here so try another lie please

  866. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    i made sum cool shoes at zazzle.com with a raider sign on the back and jruss gettin shot on the front . then i put real azz nigga on the side. that site is the bomb .

  867. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    2008??? WTF?? Was here training camp of this LAST YEAR..who the hell mentioned 2008?

    told you..STAY OFF THE DRUGS.
    ******************************

    Too funny because you mentioned me talking about oakglenn and bhp as the gods of this blog and i havent said that in a very long time. Training camp was in july 2009. Come on buddy

  868. Richochet Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    49er stadium gets ran by opposing teams constantly! Many times the opposing fans have drowned out the 49er fans. Remember the chargers in 2006? LOL that was sure funny. Titan fans did it this year. Eagles fans did it last year lol
    =======================
    What are you babbling about now?

    You trying the diversion post?

    don’t see where you stated “My bad, you’re right” but I’ll assume your diversion replies are saying exactly that.

    lol..you’ve pretty much conceded everything, haven’t you?

    Now..question..considering you don’t go to Niner games, why would you be commenting on how loud fans get?

    Oh..I GOT IT..you’re reaching..making up stuff now??
    Good for you, Little Brian.

  869. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    49er stadium gets ran by opposing teams constantly! Many times the opposing fans have drowned out the 49er fans. Remember the chargers in 2006? LOL that was sure funny. Titan fans did it this year. Eagles fans did it last year lol
    =======================
    What are you babbling about now?

    You trying the diversion post?

    don’t see where you stated “My bad, you’re right” but I’ll assume your diversion replies are saying exactly that.

    lol..you’ve pretty much conceded everything, haven’t you?

    Now..question..considering you don’t go to Niner games, why would you be commenting on how loud fans get?

    Oh..I GOT IT..you’re reaching..making up stuff now??
    Good for you, Little Brian.
    ***********************************

    Well Bichy there is this thing that was invented years ago called the TV………..and guess what? It can produce sound!

  870. Richochet Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    2008??? WTF?? Was here training camp of this LAST YEAR..who the hell mentioned 2008?

    told you..STAY OFF THE DRUGS.
    ******************************

    Too funny because you mentioned me talking about oakglenn and bhp as the gods of this blog and i havent said that in a very long time. Training camp was in july 2009. Come on buddy
    ==============
    You admit you are a heavy drug user.
    You admit you’re a brain dead stoner.
    You admit you shot up H.
    You admit you’re a fall down drunk.
    You admit you pop anything you can find.

    and you wonder why you can’t remember when you say things?

  871. Mistabr0wn Says:

    SATAN is using bedazzle on his sneakers..lmao

  872. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Bichy you have been exposed. I wonder what name you were using back in 2008 and possibly early 2009 when I said BHP and oakglenn were the top dogs of the blog……….hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

  873. jhill Says:

    A LB actually shedding a block to make a play. What a concept. To think that a MLB, a MIDDLE LINEBACKER won’t have a guy assigned to block him on EVERY play is ridiculous!

    Warren is in his 11th year though, and it’s time to get a younger guy in there next to Kelly. Kelly, not Seymour! Only time Seymour needs to be at DT is when the fat guy next to Kelly needs a blow.

  874. Raiders4eve Says:

    Jhill

    No way in the world should a top 10 player be a guard ever, dont you know that the best guards are always found in the second round. Mike Iupati struggled as RG in the Senior bowl, why would you get him knowing our LG position is covered, I think what we need is this.

    1) OL best available or McClain
    2) DT Cody
    3) MLB Micah Johnson
    3) OG Mitch Petrus
    4) NT Jay Ross
    5) WR/KR Jacoby Ford
    5) C Eric Olsen or OL Derek Hardman (If we didnt take McClain)

  875. RaiderRon Says:

    Priest says- ” We should have a top 10 defense this year. I say this because of all the offensive firepower we will be able to throw at opposing teams”

    That was Priest last April. Care to explain that brilliant comment??

  876. Mistabr0wn Says:

    SATAN is using bedazzle on his sneakers. Dude your so gangsta…

  877. Mistabr0wn Says:

    RaiderRon that tool said so many derelict things youd need a server to store it all.

  878. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    wuteva …

  879. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    2008??? WTF?? Was here training camp of this LAST YEAR..who the hell mentioned 2008?

    told you..STAY OFF THE DRUGS.
    ******************************

    Too funny because you mentioned me talking about oakglenn and bhp as the gods of this blog and i havent said that in a very long time. Training camp was in july 2009. Come on buddy
    ==============
    You admit you are a heavy drug user.
    You admit you’re a brain dead stoner.
    You admit you shot up H.
    You admit you’re a fall down drunk.
    You admit you pop anything you can find.

    and you wonder why you can’t remember when you say things?
    *************************

    Actually nice reach job there Bichy. I havent done drugs is a few years and I have said this many times so the wrong count is now at one for this post

    I do smoke purple but never have i been brain dea or said i was……….count at two now

    Shot H? I dont like needles so therefore that doesnt register……count is up to three

    Fall down drunk? Naw I got wonderful balance but i do get fuked but that doesnt mean i fall down when i drink………..count at 4.

    I dont pop pills anymore thats my pal bob…..wow you completed the chart for being wrong with 5

    Good work Bichy

  880. lefty12 Says:

    would you take a Hutchinson,Kramer, or an Upshaw in the top 10?

  881. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # jhill Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    A LB actually shedding a block to make a play. What a concept. To think that a MLB, a MIDDLE LINEBACKER won’t have a guy assigned to block him on EVERY play is ridiculous!

    Warren is in his 11th year though, and it’s time to get a younger guy in there next to Kelly. Kelly, not Seymour! Only time Seymour needs to be at DT is when the fat guy next to Kelly needs a blow.
    ******************************

    So you are a Kirk fan now Jhill?

  882. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Leftster!!!!

  883. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Hey Mista we all have been wrong………..i thought Al could do it one more time but as you can see now ive realized the old guy just wont get it done and the team will just stink.

  884. jhill Says:

    Iupati is being talked about as a guy who could be the best Olineman in the draft. A guy that can play OG or OT. Did you see the blocks he made to get Blount in the end zone? A guy that dominant at LG run blocking will not be a slouch switching to the right side. Just a matter of getting his footwork together.

    Not wedded to a particular player on the oline, but when the coaching chatter is that he was the standout guy there during the week then he merits a look. And again Gallery-Satele-Iupati up the middle should translate well on the field. I don’t care about 8. I wanted Mack before we traded for Satele.

  885. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Bichy you diggin deep into those archives are ya?

  886. jhill Says:

    So you are a Kirk fan now Jhill?

    ——————————————————

    WTF are you talking about? Now who’s high?

  887. Seymour Bush Says:

    Are those two STILL talking about that oakglen guy? I am now thinking that wack-o is right and they drove him off the board. From what I have seen the last three weeks he probably bored oakglen to death with his asinine posts.

  888. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Bichy you said you got the bottle at 11:15……..you know you dont fuked up right?

  889. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # jhill Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    So you are a Kirk fan now Jhill?

    ——————————————————

    WTF are you talking about? Now who’s high?
    ******************************

    Jhill i was just asking you mayne………..naw i aint burned all day to be honest wit ya

  890. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Seymour……….thats Bichy for ya…….but on to other news…………49ers to LA huh? As the days go by it gets closer and closer. York wants a new stadium and wants it now!

  891. lefty12 Says:

    it is a given if we had a great RG people wouldn’t be complaining about Green like they do-the guy actually does ok pass blocking-ok not great.I can also guarantee we could run it up the middle when we had to.Jhill-still wish we had Mack as I’m not sold on Satele.

  892. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Lefty……….alot of the oline gotta go! We are moving fromthe ZBS if you guys havent heard

  893. Raiderglory34 Says:

    Raiders4eve

    i agree on the mcclain and cody all the way
    now if mcclain isnt there id like to see a trade down to get another 2 or 3rd round
    id like to trade fargas also for a possible3rd round

  894. lefty12 Says:

    It wouldn’t surprise me if the new stadium was built in Oakland and the whiners moved over and shared the stadium with the Raiders.The logistics at the coliseum are perfect(freeways-Bart).

  895. Seymour Bush Says:

    TROG you just proved that troll was the trolling low life hypocrite that we all knew he was. Thank you for that.

  896. jhill Says:

    Moving away from the ZBS?

    Says who?

  897. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # lefty12 Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    It wouldn’t surprise me if the new stadium was built in Oakland and the whiners moved over and shared the stadium with the Raiders.The logistics at the coliseum are perfect(freeways-Bart).
    *******************************
    Um a new stadium will be built cuz the A’s will be out of the coliseum in three years. Highly likely a stadium will be built for the A’s in jack london square……thats why you see all them high rises and new upscale restaurants being built

    I high doublt Al will want to share a stadium with the 49ers unless they break him off big change and you know al is a cold dude.

    49ers reality= stay at Candleshyt or move to LA

  898. jhill Says:

    I think they started trying to replace Morrison last year with Brown. But Brown just wasn’t up to the task.

    Wouldn’t surprise me at all to see that position upgraded. I think Scott and Howard are right where they need to be though.

  899. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    TROG you just proved that troll was the trolling low life hypocrite that we all knew he was. Thank you for that.
    ********************************

    Yeah he is diggin into the archives doing his best. I caught him lying as usual

  900. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # jhill Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    I think they started trying to replace Morrison last year with Brown. But Brown just wasn’t up to the task.

    Wouldn’t surprise me at all to see that position upgraded. I think Scott and Howard are right where they need to be though.
    ***************************

    Maybe so about scott and howard………morrison cant stay at mlb or we will still suck. he is soft

  901. jhill Says:

    I’d still be complaining about Cornbread at RT even if we upgraded the RG position. He was our best RT last year, but that really isn’t saying much.

  902. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # jhill Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    Moving away from the ZBS?

    Says who?
    ***************************

    Come on you know Al Davis doesnt like cut blocking at all

  903. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Al hated the zone blocking when jim colletto was here. Its no secret

  904. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Remember last year Al wanted more power to the ZBS?

  905. jhill Says:

    I don’t think Morrison is soft. He dislocated his elbow and didn’t miss a game. I think he tends to take a few be in the wrong place a lot, or tries to run around a block instead of taking that block on.

    At this point, it is what it is. I simply think the Oline is the biggest needs.

  906. jhill Says:

    I can’t see them scrapping the whole ZBS thing with Cable pretty much going back to coaching the Oline. Certain plays will be adjusted like when Walker came in and played for Morris. But Satele, Gallery, and Henderson and not what I would think of as power guys.

  907. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Yeah we need oline help in the worse way but the zbs sucks inside the red zone……..at least for us it does. Might as well go back to power blocking and at least attempt to blow people off the ball. That zbs stuff is soft. now people can mention the jets all they want but jets already had a damn good line when they power blocked just the same but look at the type of offense the jets run

  908. The Return of Godliness Says:

    jhill why wouldnt they scrap it? Al runs this show right? He hates zone blocking and wants power plus our two rbs arent ZBS runners. Lets get them some big guards and a center to be able to knock guys backwards

  909. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    What’s with all this talk about the zone blocking system? Where is the usual banter about who is a troll and who is a homosexual?

  910. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Jhill Al dont want it and many Raider folks dont want that crap either. It highlights pu$$y oline play

  911. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Yeah, you tell ‘em Godliness! Get that pu$$y stuff out of here!

  912. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    We don’t want no pu$$ies on this blog! Hot damn!

  913. Raiderglory34 Says:

    okon another note what do yal think about mike mitchell?

  914. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Albert……..the Raiders are soft…thats why we get dragged in the mud against tough teams. We need tough players here and not this smiling nice guys who just wanna have fun. Give me Cody as the run stuffer and maybe spikes or mcclain in the middle. Seymour and ellis are tough guys but are surrounded by wimps

  915. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Raiderglory34 Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    okon another note what do yal think about mike mitchell?
    ****************************

    I dunno yet. he looks ok but we got huff as the FS and branch as the SS so i really dont know where he fits as a 2nd rounder in all of this

  916. The Return of Godliness Says:

    First and second rounders you would think would be starters eventually

  917. DKnight007 Says:

    Who really cares what the old man Al wants at this point.

    He has sucked for the last 7 years and chances are the organization and team will suck until he is gone unless he hires a new Personnel Man to run the draft and a REAL Head Coach.

  918. DKnight007 Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    Albert……..the Raiders are soft…thats why we get dragged in the mud against tough teams. We need tough players here and not this smiling nice guys who just wanna have fun. Give me Cody as the run stuffer and maybe spikes or mcclain in the middle. Seymour and ellis are tough guys but are surrounded by wimps.

    ^^^^^^^^
    I want tough players who are good overall players who are leaders who have great work ethic like Brandon Graham, McClain, Spikes, Weatherspoon, Suh, McCoy Williams, Iupati, Campbell etc…..

    Cody?? Uhh…no….

  919. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # DKnight007 Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    Who really cares what the old man Al wants at this point.

    He has sucked for the last 7 years and chances are the organization and team will suck until he is gone unless he hires a new Personnel Man to run the draft and a REAL Head Coach.
    *************************
    LOL like that will happen my friend. Hey i agree withthe old man the ZBS needs to go……..now only if he is gone then things would be looking up

  920. lefty12 Says:

    If we won the old man could give a rats arse what system we ran.Who said Cable was going back to just do the Oline?Actually,he is going to be like most HCs-oversee the team,let his Asst. coaches and coordinators do their jobs-as it should be.

  921. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Ndamememdummydonkey kong Sue will not be as good as yall think

    Cody is the fat bastard we need. He will say to RBs…..GET IN MY BELLY

  922. Raiderglory34 Says:

    im likeing mitchell b/c he brings something that hasnt been brought since the 70’s and thats hatefullness his like ray lewis at saftey i see him starting in 2 seasons hes mean man

  923. armond Says:

    hey brian whattup!! i dont know whats been goin on in the town since i left. so they buildin high rises and sh!t at jack london huh? i remember that a’s fan coalition group i was with years ago had told mofos to build downtown or jls somewhere but that damn owner schottman didnt wanna listen. they spent all this time dissin oakland tryin come to soft azz san jose and still no stadium. they couldve had a new one in oakland by now if they had cooperated. and this lew wolfe bytch lies his azz off!!

  924. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # lefty12 Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    If we won the old man could give a rats arse what system we ran.Who said Cable was going back to just do the Oline?Actually,he is going to be like most HCs-oversee the team,let his Asst. coaches and coordinators do their jobs-as it should be.
    **************************

    Cable a puppet leftster he better just do the overseer thing.

    Old man does give a rats ass when we are losing…….when it pertains to offense………as for defense he will do it his way for sure

  925. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Raiderglory34 Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    im likeing mitchell b/c he brings something that hasnt been brought since the 70’s and thats hatefullness his like ray lewis at saftey i see him starting in 2 seasons hes mean man
    **********************

    Starting for Huff or Branch?

  926. lefty12 Says:

    What is funny is people on here say we should do things like other teams do and when we do everyone over evaluates things.

  927. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # armond Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    hey brian whattup!! i dont know whats been goin on in the town since i left. so they buildin high rises and sh!t at jack london huh? i remember that a’s fan coalition group i was with years ago had told mofos to build downtown or jls somewhere but that damn owner schottman didnt wanna listen. they spent all this time dissin oakland tryin come to soft azz san jose and still no stadium. they couldve had a new one in oakland by now if they had cooperated. and this lew wolfe bytch lies his azz off!!
    **********************

    Lew Wolff wants to hang out with his buddies and doesnt like Oakland. He cares nada about the A’s really.

    Yeah but San Jose aint happening. Giants own that territory.

    JL Square more than likely will be where the new stadium is at…kinda in the mold of ATT park

  928. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # lefty12 Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    What is funny is people on here say we should do things like other teams do and when we do everyone over evaluates things.
    *********************

    Some things need to be done like others and then again some things not. Life is like that but when it aint working you are a fool to not change it

  929. armond Says:

    glory i agree about mitchell and his hatefullness. you saw how he shoved ortons face in the dirt at denver? when was the last time we saw that type of shyt? alot of people were mad at seymours personal fouls but i loved it. thats why i want spikes more than mcclain. he is a leader and he can do what morrison cant do. go to youtube and see how he throws big azz guards on the ground. they have one video with him slingin fatazz andre smith down with ease.

  930. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Armond i feel ya on spikes but he is rather on the ignorant niggro side but we do need a few guys like that. Mcclain aint bad either

  931. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Armond dont trip a waterfront stadium is happening at Jack London with I bet alot of shopping stores and shyt around it. you can already see it in motion around there just like ATT park

  932. lefty12 Says:

    i said “IF WE WIN” the old man doesn’t care.Naturally when we lose he wants it his way.Smith runs SD.Jones runs the cowgirls.Their coaches are just as much puppets as Cable.you could say the same for many teams.Most HCs are puppets when you think about it.

  933. armond Says:

    i mispelled his name and dont give fook!! he never wanted to build that park/hotel at the coli. he went right down to fremont the following week with the same proposal. bud selig convinced him to get the team from those bastards schottman. selig never liked the a’s being in oakland which is why he tabled that vote when dolich/piccinini tried to buy them in 99. they made it clear they were staying and would emphasize building the fanbase back up before a stadium. they had no problem with the coli for the time being.

  934. The Return of Godliness Says:

    leftster an oakland puppet is the lead puppet

  935. Raiderglory34 Says:

    id say for branch at SS id say leave huff at fs and maybe branch as a nickel or dime back i think branch is nice also but i think mitchell will bring alot more to the table but branch seems to be in the right places at the right time so maybe nickel back ??? what you think about that

  936. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # armond Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    i mispelled his name and dont give fook!! he never wanted to build that park/hotel at the coli. he went right down to fremont the following week with the same proposal. bud selig convinced him to get the team from those bastards schottman. selig never liked the a’s being in oakland which is why he tabled that vote when dolich/piccinini tried to buy them in 99. they made it clear they were staying and would emphasize building the fanbase back up before a stadium. they had no problem with the coli for the time being.
    ***********************

    Yeah but its a cold game man. They want the most doe possible but Fremont aint givin it up to them and cant get SJ. Move to Sac? What for? Portland? LOL dont make me vomit. No pro team will be in Vegas. Oakland’s JL Square is the best bet due to its location and then…………the LA idiots in here can understand when the raiders have the spot to themselves that LA will never happen LOL

  937. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Raiderglory34 Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    id say for branch at SS id say leave huff at fs and maybe branch as a nickel or dime back i think branch is nice also but i think mitchell will bring alot more to the table but branch seems to be in the right places at the right time so maybe nickel back ??? what you think about that
    *********************

    Chris Johnson is a nickel back………we will draft a CB for sure this year

  938. lefty12 Says:

    i won’t argue that,but he isn’t the only one.

  939. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Armond……..a family member of mine works for a SF architecture firm. Its basically a done deal JLS is where the A’s are moving. Wolff’s hands are tied

  940. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Yeah he aint the only one. Would be crazy to think that but none have the dominating presence of an old 80 year old guy like Al over their heads

  941. Raiderglory34 Says:

    yes i dont mind seymour getting PF but if its the wrong time then naw but right time yeah it will fire up the team seymour know what it takes

  942. armond Says:

    yeah b he is IGGNANT but thats just what we need. its a damn shame that cj puts bigger hits on people than our lbs. our secondary is way more physical than they are which in one way is good but also very bad.

  943. Richochet Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    Yeah he aint the only one. Would be crazy to think that but none have the dominating presence of an old 80 year old guy like Al over their heads
    ========================
    Dude..stop.
    You had your head up your ass with the Moribito’s, with Joe Thomas, With Eddie D, with Al, with the stadium, with Verra’s Lockerroom..you’ve struck out every time..so stop with “I have info”.

    You’re a user.

    You just don’t count, lol..just the way it is.

  944. The Return of Godliness Says:

    armond i need more niggnant players here. tired of getting pushed around mayne. this sucks to be talking about who we should draft and sign again.

  945. Richochet Says:

    # lefty12 Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    What is funny is people on here say we should do things like other teams do and when we do everyone over evaluates things.
    =======================
    Actually, the comments are just do things that make sense.

    there in lies the problem.

  946. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    Yeah he aint the only one. Would be crazy to think that but none have the dominating presence of an old 80 year old guy like Al over their heads
    ========================
    Dude..stop.
    You had your head up your ass with the Moribito’s, with Joe Thomas, With Eddie D, with Al, with the stadium, with Verra’s Lockerroom..you’ve struck out every time..so stop with “I have info”.

    You’re a user.

    You just don’t count, lol..just the way it is.
    ************************************

    Hahahaha troll you back from checkin the archives? Verra or Vella?

    I never struck out and a 49er site totally agreed with what I said and you even tried to double talk that down but failed. You denied the 49ers had mob affiliations when it has been proven time and time again. you only comeback with OOOH MAMA the MAFIA nonsense

  947. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Armond you should have seen bichy out himself as a troll earlier lol it was quite funny

  948. Raiderglory34 Says:

    i think johnson stay are corner and branch move to nickel its just hes at the right places all the time that makes me think nickel you know i thinkk we need to blitz alil more and that will bring out johnson at the corner but that goes on cody thing i think corner will be not next year but the one after

  949. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Just stop bichy……..you went to quote a book that was written by a known imbecile and then you will try to dispute what a very huge 49er site has said. No one has come to dispute what the guy said on there so quit okay. You lose I win…………..again

  950. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Raiderglory……guess we will see what goes on in march and april huh? Al does his own thing regardless of what we say. Still will be my team but forgive me for not being optimistic

  951. Richochet Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    Bichy you have been exposed. I wonder what name you were using back in 2008 and possibly early 2009 when I said BHP and oakglenn were the top dogs of the blog……….hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
    =======================================
    lol..you insecure whining little moron. I don’t need another name..YOU DO..that’s why you have a dozen.
    OakGlen/Seymour does..that’s why he has 3 dozen.
    I was here in preseason THIS LAST YEAR..

    What? You don’t think I can find, in a minute, you making some prop to OakMoron or priest?

    Isn’t it ironic that one of the biggest cross posters on the board is accusing someone else for cross posting, as if you’re appalled? lol..you dumbass.

    Like I said..those who get slapped down? Always change their name.
    Right…..uh..what’s your name these days?

  952. lefty12 Says:

    Branch had difficulty trying to cover TEs when he was asked to.How is he gonna play nickel?Why is it whenever we get someone that seems to grow into a certain position,people want to start moving them to different positions?Or trade them (Nnamdi) for draft choices that they then complain about.

  953. armond Says:

    brian if what u say is true i MIGHT start goin to some games again. i stopped when schottman told everyone san jose was the new home for the a’s right before the season opener in 2001. and that was after they just won the division the year before. what a azzhole!!!!!!!
    i went to the game they clinched in that season finale against texas, straight classic moment ill never forget.

  954. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    Bichy you have been exposed. I wonder what name you were using back in 2008 and possibly early 2009 when I said BHP and oakglenn were the top dogs of the blog……….hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
    =======================================
    lol..you insecure whining little moron. I don’t need another name..YOU DO..that’s why you have a dozen.
    OakGlen/Seymour does..that’s why he has 3 dozen.
    I was here in preseason THIS LAST YEAR..

    What? You don’t think I can find, in a minute, you making some prop to OakMoron or priest?

    Isn’t it ironic that one of the biggest cross posters on the board is accusing someone else for cross posting, as if you’re appalled? lol..you dumbass.

    Like I said..those who get slapped down? Always change their name.
    Right…..uh..what’s your name these days?
    **************************************

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh so you love to check the archives eh?

    Um as you have been told many times ive been banned on this site a few damn times. Didnt you notice while I was gone my name couldnt even be posted? come on and think Bichy. And if I was hiding why did I make myself known from the gate? Bichy keep reaching reaching lol

  955. Richochet Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    Yeah he aint the only one. Would be crazy to think that but none have the dominating presence of an old 80 year old guy like Al over their heads
    ========================
    Dude..stop.
    You had your head up your ass with the Moribito’s, with Joe Thomas, With Eddie D, with Al, with the stadium, with Verra’s Lockerroom..you’ve struck out every time..so stop with “I have info”.

    You’re a user.

    You just don’t count, lol..just the way it is.
    ************************************

    Hahahaha troll you back from checkin the archives? Verra or Vella?

    I never struck out and a 49er site totally agreed with what I said and you even tried to double talk that down but failed. You denied the 49ers had mob affiliations when it has been proven time and time again. you only comeback with OOOH MAMA the MAFIA nonsense
    ====================
    Oh geez…you never struck out? Damn…you went down in flames. Hell..MIGHT HAVE BEEN BECAUSE OF ME that you changed your name.
    You were floundering even worse than tonight with your idiot takes.

    Oh geez..the mafia again? You getting all nervous, Little Bree?
    Brein: “OMG..they’re connected..I know they are..I KNOW THEY ARE..OMG..oh geez…Oh lordy me…those scary guys know those…..shhhhhhh *whispers* mafia!! eeeeeeekkkkkkkk.

    Lol..yep..pretty funny.

    and no…THEY AREN’T CONNECTED YOU SHYTT FOR BRAINS…and don’t start lying again…you proved nothing..you came up with nothing..all you ever said is that Eddie D is Italian..and that Policy defended a mob guy…THAT’S IT.

    for that, they’re automatically in the mafia? YOU DUMBASS.

  956. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # armond Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    brian if what u say is true i MIGHT start goin to some games again. i stopped when schottman told everyone san jose was the new home for the a’s right before the season opener in 2001. and that was after they just won the division the year before. what a azzhole!!!!!!!
    i went to the game they clinched in that season finale against texas, straight classic moment ill never forget.
    *****************************

    Yeah i remember that day! You remember the day before when the A’s won like 21-2? Man those were some fun times at the coliseum

  957. armond Says:

    brian i read all of that earlier. he tried to talk some shyt to me about a week ago but i put an end to that real quick. raider stores sellin half of niner and raider gear, hahahahaha!!!!!

  958. The Return of Godliness Says:

    LOL the Carmen Policy thing hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  959. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # armond Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    brian i read all of that earlier. he tried to talk some shyt to me about a week ago but i put an end to that real quick. raider stores sellin half of niner and raider gear, hahahahaha!!!!!
    *******************

    See most people want Bichy to leave but i want him to stay. He is so funny to me. He says the craziest things ever

  960. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Armond guess what? Carmen Policy isnt a mob lawyer lol

  961. armond Says:

    hell yeah man i grew up more an a’s fan cuz thats what i played more of. i also remember giambi actin like a biotch when it came to the stankees. he practically bowed down and worshiped them in those 2 series against them. he was the leader of a young team and just azz kissed the team we needed to dethrone. i was glad he left. miggy was my favorite player anyway. texas got dominated that whole series now we got this dull bullshyt.

  962. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Bichy you know just keep posting………..I’ll just respond with LOL or LMAO……..with an occasional HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  963. Seymour Bush Says:

    Time to go you lying scumbag troll. Bye crapochet! Bye!

  964. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # armond Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    hell yeah man i grew up more an a’s fan cuz thats what i played more of. i also remember giambi actin like a biotch when it came to the stankees. he practically bowed down and worshiped them in those 2 series against them. he was the leader of a young team and just azz kissed the team we needed to dethrone. i was glad he left. miggy was my favorite player anyway. texas got dominated that whole series now we got this dull bullshyt.
    ***************

    I booed giambi last year and clapped when he got out. he never won his ring did he?

  965. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Seymour leave bichy alone….he is upset that he bloved 49ers arent going to be calling SF home very soon lol

  966. Richochet Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    Bichy you have been exposed. I wonder what name you were using back in 2008 and possibly early 2009 when I said BHP and oakglenn were the top dogs of the blog……….hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
    =======================================
    lol..you insecure whining little moron. I don’t need another name..YOU DO..that’s why you have a dozen.
    OakGlen/Seymour does..that’s why he has 3 dozen.
    I was here in preseason THIS LAST YEAR..

    What? You don’t think I can find, in a minute, you making some prop to OakMoron or priest?

    Isn’t it ironic that one of the biggest cross posters on the board is accusing someone else for cross posting, as if you’re appalled? lol..you dumbass.

    Like I said..those who get slapped down? Always change their name.
    Right…..uh..what’s your name these days?
    **************************************

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh so you love to check the archives eh?

    RICHOCHET: I told you..STOP WITH THE DRUGS, FOOL. Not what I said. I said I can find your silly props in minutes..very simple.
    ##########################

    Um as you have been told many times ive been banned on this site a few damn times.

    RICHOCHET: You WENT OUT OF YOUR WAY to get banned, peanut. Right when you start getting slapped around, you go on a very deliberate out of the way attempt to get banned. No..not one comment..you act like a little spoiled child, throwing a tantrum, MAKING SURE YOU GET BANNED. Hell, you TRIED YOUR HARDEST..and it was pathetically obvious.

    ##################
    Didnt you notice while I was gone my name couldnt even be posted?

    RICHOCHET: lmfao..actually, I don’t think I did..and sure never cared..BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU DID. What you just said is even when banned, you’re here everyday? Reading? Damn…you’re kind of sad, aren’t you?
    Bree: “Monte talked to me..GO ASK HIM”.
    Good boy, Little Bree *thumbsup*
    #########################
    . And if I was hiding why did I make myself known from the gate? Bichy keep reaching reaching lol

    RICHOCHET: Tail between legs, white flag waving, left with a whimper hiding…heat got too much for ya. You were getting slapped down, nonstop..so you took the cowardly way out.
    And you’ll do it again..want to bet???

    See, you take pride in getting banned, figuring it wipes all previous takes away (hence you saying “forget about the Moribitos” lol)..but OakGlenn is just a little beyotch who keeps changing the name because he’s such an easy target..he’s just so stupid he immediately starts up with those who slap him around, making it obvious he has an agenda, the moron. First day as Seymour, goes after Brownie, Kell, MR, me..and starts quoting things from the past..the dumbass.

  967. The Return of Godliness Says:

    “We are the LA Ninerrrrrrrrrrssssssss, We left SF without a goddamn fight WE are the LA Ninerrrrrrrrsssssssssss!”

  968. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    Bichy you have been exposed. I wonder what name you were using back in 2008 and possibly early 2009 when I said BHP and oakglenn were the top dogs of the blog……….hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
    =======================================
    lol..you insecure whining little moron. I don’t need another name..YOU DO..that’s why you have a dozen.
    OakGlen/Seymour does..that’s why he has 3 dozen.
    I was here in preseason THIS LAST YEAR..

    What? You don’t think I can find, in a minute, you making some prop to OakMoron or priest?

    Isn’t it ironic that one of the biggest cross posters on the board is accusing someone else for cross posting, as if you’re appalled? lol..you dumbass.

    Like I said..those who get slapped down? Always change their name.
    Right…..uh..what’s your name these days?
    **************************************

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh so you love to check the archives eh?

    RICHOCHET: I told you..STOP WITH THE DRUGS, FOOL. Not what I said. I said I can find your silly props in minutes..very simple.
    ##########################

    Um as you have been told many times ive been banned on this site a few damn times.

    RICHOCHET: You WENT OUT OF YOUR WAY to get banned, peanut. Right when you start getting slapped around, you go on a very deliberate out of the way attempt to get banned. No..not one comment..you act like a little spoiled child, throwing a tantrum, MAKING SURE YOU GET BANNED. Hell, you TRIED YOUR HARDEST..and it was pathetically obvious.

    ##################
    Didnt you notice while I was gone my name couldnt even be posted?

    RICHOCHET: lmfao..actually, I don’t think I did..and sure never cared..BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU DID. What you just said is even when banned, you’re here everyday? Reading? Damn…you’re kind of sad, aren’t you?
    Bree: “Monte talked to me..GO ASK HIM”.
    Good boy, Little Bree *thumbsup*
    #########################
    . And if I was hiding why did I make myself known from the gate? Bichy keep reaching reaching lol

    RICHOCHET: Tail between legs, white flag waving, left with a whimper hiding…heat got too much for ya. You were getting slapped down, nonstop..so you took the cowardly way out.
    And you’ll do it again..want to bet???

    See, you take pride in getting banned, figuring it wipes all previous takes away (hence you saying “forget about the Moribitos” lol)..but OakGlenn is just a little beyotch who keeps changing the name because he’s such an easy target..he’s just so stupid he immediately starts up with those who slap him around, making it obvious he has an agenda, the moron. First day as Seymour, goes after Brownie, Kell, MR, me..and starts quoting things from the past..the dumbass.
    *******************************

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

  969. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Anyways Armond……..Ben Sheets huh? We still cant hit but the defense outta make some nice plays

  970. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    =======================================

    No one cares!

    But on another note:

    Ladies and Gentlemen, please welcome your 2013 Los Angeles Phony whiners!!!

  971. Richochet Says:

    lol…this is how long it took…click on one thread at end of august..and there you are…kissing up..LIKE I SAID.

    -Bri en the General Says:
    August 30th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
    Haha bout to leave the house but someone called me and just said BHP made a comment directed towards me lol
    BHP you are a great Raider and I admire your knowledge

  972. Richochet Says:

    has to more, lol…

  973. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    lol…this is how long it took…click on one thread at end of august..and there you are…kissing up..LIKE I SAID.

    -Bri en the General Says:
    August 30th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
    Haha bout to leave the house but someone called me and just said BHP made a comment directed towards me lol
    BHP you are a great Raider and I admire your knowledge
    ***************************

    When did I call him the god of this on that post?

  974. Richochet Says:

    Yep…easy as that…fool.

    Bri en the General Says:
    August 30th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
    # KoolKell Says:
    August 30th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
    Now, Blackhole Priest will come in here, after the Raiders have given up 275 & 232 yds on the ground on consecutive games, and lecture us about 1 gap, 2 gap, double-teams,and we’re obviously too stupid to know what we’re talking about. lol The DT’s are just fine, he’ll say. lol
    **********************
    LOL this post is funny tho. According to BHP, who I do admire

    =================
    I told you..those drugs make you stupid.

  975. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Tell me where I called him a god in that post lolololololololol

  976. Richochet Says:

    You said you hadn’t propped him or OakDork in two years..obviously you can’t count.

  977. The Return of Godliness Says:

    I do admire BHP for him loving the Raiders but hate when he makes excuses

  978. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    You said you hadn’t propped him or OakDork in two years..obviously you can’t count.
    ************************

    LOL you idiot I said I havent called them the gods of this blog since that time you moron!!! I still havent seen the post where i said since you supposedly came on

  979. armond Says:

    lefty i agree about keepin branch where he is. i always thought eventually he and mitchell will be the safeties of the future but huff showed alot this past season. im interested to see what scotts role will be this year.

  980. The Return of Godliness Says:

    I still do admire BHP but he needs to check himself and doggin the younger generation see me and BHP’s issues go beyond Raider football

  981. The Return of Godliness Says:

    ME<———–still waiting on the gods of the blog post lol

  982. Richochet Says:

    That was the beginning of the end for ya…wasn’t it, BreeBree?

  983. The Return of Godliness Says:

    if you scroll up i did say I staged a coup on him and oakglenn………..you are really losing it now

  984. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    That was the beginning of the end for ya…wasn’t it, BreeBree?
    ******************

    Beginning of my non stop laughter HAHAHAHAHAHA

  985. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Bichy all of that time you were idle in here that was what you were doing? Pullin up old archives that still havent proved your case lolololololololol

  986. armond Says:

    yeah brian we cant hit but the pitchin should be better. wont matter cuz like the raiders they wont score much more despite gettin koosmanoff. shouldve went after miggy. btw debartolo also isnt a rat. he’s an upstanding good american citizen.hahaha

  987. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # armond Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    lefty i agree about keepin branch where he is. i always thought eventually he and mitchell will be the safeties of the future but huff showed alot this past season. im interested to see what scotts role will be this year.
    *****************

    Yeah i thought Huff was done here. He surprised alot of us. Jhill though was on that though

  988. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # armond Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    yeah brian we cant hit but the pitchin should be better. wont matter cuz like the raiders they wont score much more despite gettin koosmanoff. shouldve went after miggy. btw debartolo also isnt a rat. he’s an upstanding good american citizen.hahaha
    *************************

    Hahahahahaha yeah as is all mob tied people lol

    Yeah A’s may win 80 games

  989. Richochet Says:

    he Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    Bichy all of that time you were idle in here that was what you were doing? Pullin up old archives that still havent proved your case lolololololololol
    ===
    Idiot..was having ice cream with my kid.
    You live here..not me.
    Even when you’re banned, you STILL LIVE HERE, lol..by your admission.

    Hey..still…rather sweet this man-crush you have on priest.

  990. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Hey armond I’m waiting for the “gods of the blog” post I said since Bichy is going through every archive lol. Just look at the time he was away…………what do you think he was doing? LOL

  991. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    he Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    Bichy all of that time you were idle in here that was what you were doing? Pullin up old archives that still havent proved your case lolololololololol
    ===
    Idiot..was having ice cream with my kid.
    You live here..not me.
    Even when you’re banned, you STILL LIVE HERE, lol..by your admission.

    Hey..still…rather sweet this man-crush you have on priest.
    ******************************
    LOL I live here? You are on here more than me!!! LOL

    Aw now he uses the kid as a scapegoat…tsk tsk. That is weak

    Hey BHP loves the Raiders but he makes too many excuses but he hate on the young generation is outta pocket and had to be checked just like I do to you all the time lol

  992. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Bichy you are true entertainment!!! I’m telling you BET outta hire you so people can start watching it again

  993. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Bichy you are comic relief…………i’d liek to thank you for such a fun time today. I laughed myself until it hurt. Been a minute. I reminded of old richard pryor records my mom use to play when i was a kid. you are just that funny

  994. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Archive digging…………here it comes

  995. Richochet Says:

    Yep, lol..you and Seymour/Oakglenn…pathetic as can be.

    When I wander away, you actually sit here and wonder where I am…damn..that’s pathetic.

    Seriously..you’ve done it a few times now.
    Oakglenn does it all the time.

    BreeBree: ‘gosh..I wonder what he’s doing? hey…what do you think he’s doing”? lol…pathetic dude..big time.

  996. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Bichy since I live here as you say and you love to pull up archives……….go see just for the month of january who has been on here more okay……..

  997. Richochet Says:

    But this was fun to read :mrgreen:

    · Richochet Says:
    August 28th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
    Bri en the General Says:
    August 28th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
    It is also common knowledge that Al help arrange the sale of the 49ers, you are just in denial knowing you are wrong.
    Richochet: “common knowledge”?? Fool..I just DETAILED what happened. That Al was paid a fee to help in the sale. The 49er owners were approached by Thomas and the Debartelos, MORON.
    What’s funny is YOU are SO DESPERATE to state that the one main source of pain and anguish..the ONE AREA THAT CHAFES EVERY SINGLE RAIDER FAN, THE NINERS, AND ALL OF THEIR SUCCESS..is Al’s fault? LMFAO..I wish it were true.
    Yeah,,you clueless toad..I WISH IT WERE TRUE. You don’t think I want to laugh and laugh that the reason the Niners became a dynasty was because Al said ‘hey? this team is for sale..you want it?”.. I WISH IT WERE TRUE.
    Now, bad news for you..what’s a FACT is the Debartelo’s wanted a team..EVERYONE KNEW IT.
    fact: the niner widows WANTED TO SALE..EVERYONE knows that..didn’t matter who called who, the deal was going to happen.
    You act like a team was for sale..and some billionaires wanted to buy a NFL team…YET..SOMEHOW..THEY NEEDED AL DAVIS TO INFORM EACH OTHER?
    No, moron..AL helped with the technicalities of the sale, WHICH IS WHAT HE WAS PAID A FEE FOR.
    You, dumbass..have just been SCHOOLED AGAIN..and still laughing that you want so desperately to believe that the Niners rise to excellence is all Al’s fault…yes…ROFLMFAO…God..I wish it were true..that would be PERFECT.
    %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
    And Al didn’t know the region of the Bay Area? Explain that one to me please. He joined the Raiders in 1963 and the Raiders were winning ever since he came from LA Chargers. His success up to that time totally shoots down you BS claim.
    Richochet: Oh geez..you’re so slow. I stated that WHY would the Niners need someone to ‘explain the region” when THE NINERS WERE IN THE BAY AREA BEFORE THE RAIDERS?
    Understand now, peanut? You need to take your time, read, and try and comprehend. You just ramble stupid crap, making no sense, in a desperate effort to just try and save face. Instead you look more the idiot.
    My replies are there..above..and on last thread..yet..you still ask the same questions that have already been answered.
    You’re…rather slow..aren’t you?

  998. Raider75 Says:

    Reports say uncapped year a certainty.

    Will be interesting to see the changes in the NFL landscape over the next several months.

  999. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Pathetic? Hmmmmm a person whose favorite team is the Raiders who likes to be on the blog for Raider people or the guy who hates everything Raiders and spends frequent time on the blog designated for Raider people?

    You be the judge lol

  1000. Richochet Says:

    and this :mrgreen:

    Richochet Says:
    August 28th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
    Bri en the General Says:
    August 28th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
    Haha, obviously SF teams period were established before any Oakland team but SF teams were established losers. The 49ers weren’t selling out at all. As a matter of fact the 49er franchise didn’t have a soldout season until 1982 and that is a damn fact! Why mention the 3 straight division titles from 70-72 as evidence of the 49er franchise being successful? You totally ignore the fact that the 49ers were in the Bay since 1946 and hardly ever made the playoffs. The first 35 years for SF saw 5…..count them 5 playoff appearances total!
    Richochet: oh gawd…*sigh*..it’s like talking to a child..seriously.
    Uh…peanut? YOU stated the “NFL GOT INVOLVED”.
    I stated YOU LIE. They did NOT.
    YOU stated “Niners were a total wreck”
    I stated their run of 3 division titles just a few years before the sale.
    In other words, YOU’RE A FRIGGIN’ IDIOT.
    The NFL NEVER contacted anyone about the Niners..the NFL DOESN’T DO THAT..you fool. See, I shot your sorryass down. You? YOU HAVE NOTHING IN REPLY..except to talk about prior won/loss records? What does that have to do with the exchange? NOTHING..it’s a diversion reply..because you got slapped down.
    Want some irony?
    82 the Niners sold out..and have EVERY SINGLE YEAR SINCE…every SINGLE GAME..
    81 the Raiders sold out..AND HAVE NOT SOLD OUT SINCE THEN
    You’re not doing to well, are you, Briebrie?

  1001. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    But this was fun to read :mrgreen:

    · Richochet Says:
    August 28th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
    Bri en the General Says:
    August 28th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
    It is also common knowledge that Al help arrange the sale of the 49ers, you are just in denial knowing you are wrong.
    Richochet: “common knowledge”?? Fool..I just DETAILED what happened. That Al was paid a fee to help in the sale. The 49er owners were approached by Thomas and the Debartelos, MORON.
    What’s funny is YOU are SO DESPERATE to state that the one main source of pain and anguish..the ONE AREA THAT CHAFES EVERY SINGLE RAIDER FAN, THE NINERS, AND ALL OF THEIR SUCCESS..is Al’s fault? LMFAO..I wish it were true.
    Yeah,,you clueless toad..I WISH IT WERE TRUE. You don’t think I want to laugh and laugh that the reason the Niners became a dynasty was because Al said ‘hey? this team is for sale..you want it?”.. I WISH IT WERE TRUE.
    Now, bad news for you..what’s a FACT is the Debartelo’s wanted a team..EVERYONE KNEW IT.
    fact: the niner widows WANTED TO SALE..EVERYONE knows that..didn’t matter who called who, the deal was going to happen.
    You act like a team was for sale..and some billionaires wanted to buy a NFL team…YET..SOMEHOW..THEY NEEDED AL DAVIS TO INFORM EACH OTHER?
    No, moron..AL helped with the technicalities of the sale, WHICH IS WHAT HE WAS PAID A FEE FOR.
    You, dumbass..have just been SCHOOLED AGAIN..and still laughing that you want so desperately to believe that the Niners rise to excellence is all Al’s fault…yes…ROFLMFAO…God..I wish it were true..that would be PERFECT.
    %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
    And Al didn’t know the region of the Bay Area? Explain that one to me please. He joined the Raiders in 1963 and the Raiders were winning ever since he came from LA Chargers. His success up to that time totally shoots down you BS claim.
    Richochet: Oh geez..you’re so slow. I stated that WHY would the Niners need someone to ‘explain the region” when THE NINERS WERE IN THE BAY AREA BEFORE THE RAIDERS?
    Understand now, peanut? You need to take your time, read, and try and comprehend. You just ramble stupid crap, making no sense, in a desperate effort to just try and save face. Instead you look more the idiot.
    My replies are there..above..and on last thread..yet..you still ask the same questions that have already been answered.
    You’re…rather slow..aren’t you?
    *************************************************

    LOL see what I mean? Digging up archives no it was kid and ice cream lol

  1002. Richochet Says:

    are you crying again, BreeBrie?

    “sniff…why is he here? sniff..sniff…I just can’t understand it…he hurts my widdle feelings sooo much”

    You need to get some tea, or something?

  1003. The Return of Godliness Says:

    LOL he digs up archives and I still stand by my comments

  1004. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Hey a huge 49er fan site agrees with me and they said this after that BS book about Walsh came out so………….try try try and try again lol

  1005. Richochet Says:

    You dumbass…just ran across that on the thread next to the one I got your man crush comments..easy to find, fool.

    You know…ctrl-f????

    Takes seconds, moron.

  1006. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Hey the NFL never gets involved period eh Bichy? lol

  1007. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    You dumbass…just ran across that on the thread next to the one I got your man crush comments..easy to find, fool.

    You know…ctrl-f????

    Takes seconds, moron.
    **********************************

    Archive digger lol

  1008. Richochet Says:

    Bulls***, lol…no niner site agreed with you.
    I challenged you to post it..you didn’t.
    then you changed your name.
    Case closed.

    You didn’t do too well on the above…why was that, Briebrie?
    Oh..wait..there’s more, lol

  1009. Richochet Says:

    Richochet Says:
    August 28th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
    Br ien the General Says:
    August 28th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
    While the Raiders were busy being in the title hunt every year for the last decade the 49er franchise was a joke in the Bay Area. No one was giving the damn team any support. This is California and losing teams hardly get any love and you know what I’m saying is true! Find a way to spin that one.
    Richochet: how did you get on that?
    Discussion AGAIN was YOU stupidly said the NFL asked Al Davis to bail out the Niners. I stated you’re a liar. I was right, you are a liar.
    Now you want to discuss history?
    Ok
    Let’s. Prior to 1980..Raiders were good, Niners sucked.
    Since 1980..you know..LAST 29 YEARS?? Raiders have become a total joke..the laughingstock of the league..the butt of all jokes..the absolute worst franchise in the history of the NFL.
    The Niners became a dynasty.
    Won MORE GAMES THAN ANY OTHER TEAM IN THE ‘80′S.
    Hold the RECORD for consecutive seasons of 10 plus wins.
    Is the ONLY TEAM EVER to have back to back NFL MVP qb’s who are in the Hall of Fame.
    Has 29 STRAIGHT YEARS OF SELL OUTS..each..and EVERY game..SOLD OUT..because the fans are diehard.
    And..THE NINERS HAVE OWNED THE BAY SINCE 1980..with the Raiders becoming the Niners ugly little redheaded stepsister..in our shadows..depserate to quit being the worst.
    the Raiders?
    Since 1980?
    SCREWED OVER ALL OF THEIR LOYAL FANS..and moved to LA because Al got greedy.
    Got laughed out of LA..and found out the ONLY place that would take him was Oakland.
    found out the fans of Oakland said to Al what he said to them when he left..which was F YOU.
    Proceeded to hire more coaches, and fire more coaches than any other team.
    Proceeded to make year after year some of the dumbest FA signings, some of the dumbest draft choices..and some of the dumbest benchings of players..EVER.
    Watched the previous Oakland fanbase all but disappear..WHO MOST BECAME NINER FANS.
    Yeah, LMFAO on how many jumped ship..and never returned.
    Last 10 years the Raiders have had more BLACKOUTS than any other team, period..because the fans are fairweather fans. Both Niner preseason games are telecast live..NEITHER RAIDER PRESEASON GAMES are telecast live.
    Last 6 years the Raiders have set an NFL record for consecutive 11 loss seasons..and will likely make it 7 years..and counting.
    Last 10 years players HATE BEING SIGNED BY THE RAIDERS..I mean literally CRINGE at the idea..yet those same players smile widely if picked by the Niners.
    Last 10 years player after player after player who left the Raiders..their STARS..state “it’s the most dysfunctional organization in the NFL, from TOP TO BOTTOM (Rich Gannon)..to “No one is in control, and it shows” (Tim Brown) to “Place was a disaster. They should just blow the place up, and start over” (Jerry Rice)…lol..I can go on and on..from Sapp, to Washington, to Garner, to Hall..etc..etc..etc…ALL STATE THE RAIDERS ARE A JOKE..and that’s the PLAYERS..who are STILL IN THE LEAGUE.
    Yeah, at one point..4 DECADES AGO..the Niners didn’t have a clue..and finally the widows, who could care less about football, finally sold..and since then the organization has switched places with the Raiders..who have been on a downward spiral ever since.
    hell, little boy..the Raiders LAST SUPER BOWL WIN was over a QUARTER OF A CENTURY AGO..
    Yes, LMFAO..at you..
    Thanks FOR THE SETUP, FOOL..couldn’t have done this without you

  1010. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    You dumbass…just ran across that on the thread next to the one I got your man crush comments..easy to find, fool.

    You know…ctrl-f????

    Takes seconds, moron.
    *****************************

    Admiring someone now is referred to something homosexual lol….amazing! The 49er in your comes out everyytime

  1011. Richochet Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    You dumbass…just ran across that on the thread next to the one I got your man crush comments..easy to find, fool.

    You know…ctrl-f????

    Takes seconds, moron.
    **********************************

    Archive digger lol
    ======
    LMAO..see..YOU challenged me to prove you made the comments WHILE I WAS ON THIS BOARD..in minutes I find it..and now that’s all you can reply?

    In other words, I shut your sorryass up.
    In other words, I reposted some of your inglorious moments, when you tucked tail.
    In other words, guess you would rather have left the mancrush on priest comments alone? lol…too late.

    You lose..
    Oh well

  1012. armond Says:

    huff was challenged and stepped it up cuz he knew this was it.thats why u want competition at every position. i still say we need 2 dts and a speed de to really make the dline legit. our dline is okay but i want a dominant one. williams was better than i thought but nobody brings up he was next to cody. cody takes up so much space and he doesnt get pushed back much. i didnt think williams was as good as he looked but he was. thats why i want seymour in the middle next to a guy like cody and graham is a must. a stocky build thats powerful and quick not to mention he’s fiesty. we need a dumervill type of pass rusher. people need to understand that.

  1013. The Return of Godliness Says:

    HAHAHAHA more archives lol. You guys just notice Bichy is that stupid to contradict himself with his own ammo?

    OK, so the morabito women could care less about football in post 1009 but yet post 1001 you said the 49ers knew the region and didnt need anyone to help them out with it?

    MY GOD IM DONE AFTER THAT

  1014. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    You dumbass…just ran across that on the thread next to the one I got your man crush comments..easy to find, fool.

    You know…ctrl-f????

    Takes seconds, moron.
    **********************************

    Archive digger lol
    ======
    LMAO..see..YOU challenged me to prove you made the comments WHILE I WAS ON THIS BOARD..in minutes I find it..and now that’s all you can reply?

    In other words, I shut your sorryass up.
    In other words, I reposted some of your inglorious moments, when you tucked tail.
    In other words, guess you would rather have left the mancrush on priest comments alone? lol…too late.

    You lose..
    Oh well
    ************************

    You specifically said I was calling them the gods of the blog. not one post showed me saying that lol

  1015. Richochet Says:

    You weren’t admiring…you repeatedly bowed down, and paid homage.
    Was embarrassing for ya, Brie.

    hell, I’m embarrassed for you.

    I mean..you ADMIT you called him the god of the board..in moments I find not one, but two posts from you, gushing..

    Oh..sure..it’s just ‘admiring’..yeah…*rolls eyes*..sure, Brie..that’s what it is ;)

  1016. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    Bulls***, lol…no niner site agreed with you.
    I challenged you to post it..you didn’t.
    then you changed your name.
    Case closed.

    You didn’t do too well on the above…why was that, Briebrie?
    Oh..wait..there’s more, lol
    ***********************************

    LOL you idiot and maybe you can go get the post where i said this blog wouldnt let me post the site since you love to dig things up lol

  1017. Richochet Says:

    I love the fact you just proved you read all of that..AGAIN..after stating you can’t be bothered, lol

    Damn you’re easy.

    and after ADMITTING you read all that..that’s all you have?

    ouch

  1018. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    You weren’t admiring…you repeatedly bowed down, and paid homage.
    Was embarrassing for ya, Brie.

    hell, I’m embarrassed for you.

    I mean..you ADMIT you called him the god of the board..in moments I find not one, but two posts from you, gushing..

    Oh..sure..it’s just ‘admiring’..yeah…*rolls eyes*..sure, Brie..that’s what it is
    *************************************

    Man you really are that much of a mental midget are ya? I havent called him or Oakglenn gods of the blog in a long time and not once did you show that

  1019. Richochet Says:

    Richochet Says:
    August 28th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
    Bri en the General Says:
    August 28th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
    Listen you idiot one more time…..JOE THOMAS WAS PICKED TO BE THE GM because of AL DAVIS putting in the word for him to DEBARTOLO! You quote a dumb ass pro 49er book as if its the truth but yet ignore Dan Moldea’s work. You are a damn idiot and can only quote that damn book.
    Richochet: And you seem to be confused. Can you read? Are you saying that I’m lying? That the Debartelo’s HAVEN’T DESCRIBED JOE THOMAS as a “close family friend”? That they weren’t friends for 10 YEARS BEFORE THE SALE?? Of course they were..You just have your little pink panties all in a bunch because I torched you, and your silly comments.
    Now, you can scream all you want..but..I provided FACTS.
    What have you provided? Oh..right..YOUR opinion.
    Means squat, little boy.
    And yeah, I believe a book that Bill Walsh helped write. Also believe his book..you know..his words.
    Moldea? WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR POINT?
    HAVE NO IDEA..what? That the Debartelo’s had “ties” to the mob? What’s your point? If I said “Ok, so what”..then what’s your answer?
    We’re discussing Davis Walsh, and the Niners rise to glory and the Raiders descend into the abyss..and you want to talk about mob ties? lol..
    Ok..let’s..Moldea’s book has linked “ties”..(in other words, he has NO PROOF OF ANYTHING) to 26 DIFFERENT OWNERS.
    Yeah..idiot…26 DIFFERENT NFL OWNERS moldea is claiming “has ties”…and what’s your point?
    Have NO IDEA why you’re harping on this..what the HELL IS YOUR POINT?
    Moldea also stated there have been over 50 “investigations” that have been supressed..that there have been over 70 games “fixed”..and yet, no one knows who Moldea is..because he’s rambling..and no one’s listening..except you..so..regarding 26 owners..what, exactly, has got you all tearing up?

  1020. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    I love the fact you just proved you read all of that..AGAIN..after stating you can’t be bothered, lol

    Damn you’re easy.

    and after ADMITTING you read all that..that’s all you have?

    ouch
    **********************

    No it was quite easy to see yourself kick your own ass again with those posts lol

  1021. The Return of Godliness Says:

    So ok Bichy you said no Niner site ever agreed with not even one bit of what I said about the sale of the 49ers right?

  1022. armond Says:

    watching film on graham dude has got dman quick azz first step!! we have no de’s that get off the line like that. he is also good against the run. imagine a de that can rush the passer and stuff the run on this d. i know it wont happen but i hope we can hold that 8th pick hostage for somebody to get more picks. there is alot of talent on the lines this year.

  1023. The Return of Godliness Says:

    http://www.ninersnation.com/2009/2/27/773882/49ers-year-by-year-1977#storyjump

  1024. Richochet Says:

    · Richochet Says:
    August 28th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
    Bri en the General Says:
    August 28th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
    That book is crap and Harris is seen as a so-so writer so there ya go! Walsh didnt re-invent . Paul Brown created that offense in the 1950s but it couldnt be used because of the rules back then players would get absolutely killed. It was the late 70s when the Steelers about how they were getting dogged by the Raider Dbs and the rules were changed. That is how that garbage WCO took off.
    Richochet: Again, YOU’RE RAMBLING. Where did I EVER state Walsh reinvented anything? I didn’t, moron. You, obviously, are miffed that this is one of his legacy’s..deal with it. Walsh’s legacy is as a Genius. His legacy is PERFECTING the West Coast offense. No one ever said he invented it..he just perfected it..to where EVERY SINGLE TEAM IN THE NFL BOUGHT INTO IT..and still uses it to this day..yeah..that’s all Bill Walsh.
    he also created a dynasty.
    Was also a classy guy.
    Al Davis?
    A hermit.
    A stubborn codgity old man who listens to no one.
    A owner who used to be feared who is now laughed at because his senility has him making silly decisions, and no one dares tell him that.
    A owner who has his team being viewed as the most dysfunctional team in the NFL.
    A owner who’s created a situation where NO head coach of quality will ever want to coach there.
    A owner where players hate playing for, actually stating “a team where careers go to die”.
    A owner who blatantly screws over his own fans, both by moving the team when EVERY GAME WAS SELLING OUT, to screwing them over for SB tickets, canceling parades..and canceling fan days all for payback against Alameda County.
    An owner who has half of his fans, on EVERY SINGLE RAIDER BOARD wishing he would just go away..far away..and stay away.
    That’s the difference between the two.
    One is total class…the other one a total ass who’s dragged his team into the gutter.
    That was fun
    Thanks AGAIN for the setup, Brie.

  1025. The Return of Godliness Says:

    look that is a 49er site for ya lol

  1026. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Ill return when you find some new way to lie yourself out of this one…………..that is a 49er fan site right there and not one person has disagreed withthe guy……….if you disagree go write him and dispute him okay? Anyhow I’m done for the night. Gettin ready for the week. Bichy take good care of yourself and that “ice cream”

  1027. The Return of Godliness Says:

    And that site doesnt even have all the full details of the sale with the 49ers but the gist of it you will see you have been shown to be way wrong lol and your anti Raider bias sure makes ya look bad hahahahahahahaha. now this is 49er fans saying this not me. So again you battle it out with that guy. I wanna see you post and get at him about it okay. show the letter or email or post in writing to us all okay? Goodnite lol

  1028. Richochet Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    So ok Bichy you said no Niner site ever agreed with not even one bit of what I said about the sale of the 49ers right?
    ====================
    NO, the comments were from you about how Joe Thomas got in with the team.

    Save the “even one bit” whine..you weren’t even in the ball park on most of it..as was obvious.

    Oh..and that article? lol..backs up what I said..except I was in more detail.

    Al SCREWED OVER VALLEY, and didn’t want him across the bay..which I stated.
    You’re so new at this, aren’t ya?

  1029. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Funny how a 49er fan sure says otherwise right inthe comments section lol about joe thomas……..lol goodbye

  1030. Richochet Says:

    lol…of course IT’S GOODNIGHT FOR YA…even after you say goodnight, you still rush to post..then leave..knowing I’m going to slam your silly take.

    See, peanut..NO ONE’S ON THAT SITE..it’s not a Niner message board..YOU SAID YOU WENT ON THE NINERS MESSAGE BOARD, AND POSTED THE INFO, AND ALL THE POSTERS AGREED WITH YOU.
    two posters?

    Hell..that’s like you saying “Well, go read on Jerry’s blog. A poster named priest said JR was going to be a hall of fame player.. Another idiot named Oakglen said Jr was going to be a bonified star. See? See???? They said it..it must be true”

    You don’t have any idea how ignorant you sound?

    Lol..I know you’re reading this..and be assured, peanut, I’ll paste it for you next time..giving you time to try and defend your ass…oh…AND FIND THE FORUM YOU SAID YOU POSTED ON.

  1031. The Return of Godliness Says:

    It starts off with the guy saying Al Davis directly responsible LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL man that was easy

  1032. The Return of Godliness Says:

    lol im laughing you should too goodnite

  1033. Richochet Says:

    LMAO..you said goodnight/ goodbye how many times?

    Dude..you scream PATHETIC.

  1034. Richochet Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:59 pm

    Anyhow I’m done for the night.
    ==========================
    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 11:01 pm
    Goodnite lol
    ===================
    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 11:07 pm

    Funny how a 49er fan sure says otherwise right inthe comments section lol about joe thomas……..lol goodbye
    ===============================
    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    January 31st, 2010 at 11:08 pm

    lol im laughing you should too goodnite
    ==================================

    FOUR POSTS IN 8 MINUTES?
    All saying “goodnight”?

    Geez..you’re worse than a woman.

    Yeah..I got it..go…quit reading…lol…you’re done..you’re toast…bye bye pumpkin :mrgreen:

  1035. DKnight007 Says:

    Has the old looney man Al and the Raiders done anything yet to make me want to buy Seaseon Tickets?

    Predictably…..NO!

    I get a kick out of you some you Al Davis lap dog fans.

    Since he doesn’t give a rats azz about fans of the Raider Nation and our frustrations with him screwing things up…..then why should you give a rats azz about him?

  1036. priesttj Says:

    Armond take a goood look man, Dan Williams was that good he was the one they doubled, If you lok at his get-off it’s damn good I was surprised he was as quick and stout as he is. The ORG larsen was blcking Cody one on one and steering him. THen they had to take Cody out because he got winded in the middle of the damn drive. All he could play was 6 downs and he got winded.

    Go back and look at the 1st qrtr when he and Williams were in the game Williams played the entire drive and Cody couldn’t. Just because a guy is big and fat doesn’t mean he’s dominant it just means he’s big and fat. Cody tends to tire and stand too high losing leverage that’s when he can be influence blocked or trapped. He will give you about 10-15 great downs a game that’s it.

    There is npo Raider fan on earth that hates getting run on worse than me. But I know what it takes to stop the run I would take dan Williams ten times out of ten over Cody.

    Look at all the mock drafts almost no one has that fat slob going in the 1st rnd and it has nothing to do with his talent it’s his weight. he can’t control it. Or he would be a top 15 pick. He’s had 4 years to get it under control he just can’t………period

  1037. priesttj Says:

    Look I know you guy’s don’t believe this but I’m telling you, you think you want that guy in 2 years you’ll be cursing him. He will not solve our run problems. A player like Dan Williams is 3 times better now and later. Hell there is a kid from Stanford he got hurt or he would’ve played in the senior bowl. I would much rather get him and let him heal for a year.

    I’m thinking we might even go for a DE like Morgan or Dunlap who has rare size and athleticism. I just wpouldn’t waste a high pick on Cody maybe 4th 5th rnd he would have great value. We need guy’s that will play now and play consistently well.

  1038. priesttj Says:

    I begged the Raiders to draft a guy named Eric Foster from Rutgers in the 6th or 7th rnd. They said he didn’t fit the defene well Indy drafted him in the 6th rnd and he starts the same year we drafted DMC instead of CJ. Foster is a stud players like that make you better. Not fat slobs who can’t stay on the field.

  1039. priesttj Says:

    That damn probowl was the biggest FARSE I have ever seen. Those guy’s weren’t playing football at all. They wanted to light up the scoreboard for the fans. It was a joke!! They let guy’s score it looked as if they were allergic to tackles.

  1040. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Yeh, Priest, and the previous pro bowls were just real slug fests.

  1041. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    It’s amazing how much time Raider fans can spend talking about the draft, as if it’s just a few players in a few positions that are the problem. What do you think Al’s going to do differently this time around? Al Davis hasn’t built a solid team via the draft since some of you were playing Atari, in your underoos. The last good team we had was a product of free agency, not the draft. Rich Gannon, by far that team’s most valuable player, a certainty that’s only been disputed publicly thus far by John Herrera, yeh, the same guy who in a fit of rage couldn’t even scare Tim Kawakami, was a product of free agency. So were Charlie Garner and Jerry Rice. Tim Brown was homegrown but was used sparingly until Jeff Hostetler made him his number one target. Hostetler would also have to lobby for Tim when Al thought about not renewing his contract after the ‘93 season, a move Tim might be bittersweet about today considering he only would have went to Denver and gotten two rings. Denver, btw, has no problem with black guys from Notre Dame.

    Al can’t draft, can’t even develop or maintain the good players he does draft. Al could have drafted Adrian Peterson instead of Russell and Peterson would probably be in a wheelchair by now, courtesy of about the 100th funnel shot taken from a blitzing linebacker while blocking for Andrew Walter.

    Nnamdi Asomugha is probably the only exception that doesn’t kick for a living, and it’s amazing he’s still here and playing well considering how many times Al has tried to ruin him, too, by giving him no help over the top. Nnamdi’s picks would be doubled anywhere else in the league. Doubled. In Oakland, balls just get thrown away from him and to any of the other DBs being burned in man coverage whilst no pass rush. It’s amazing he hasn’t just come out and slammed Al publicly yet, although he’s given hints. Wait till this career’s over. You thought Gannon was bad.

    Draft talk…LOL.

  1042. Snoopy Says:

    I’m afraid most her are right and we got Jamarcus like it or not!… The only thing this year is i doubt cable will wait so long before bringing in GRAD!!!

    Hope that neever happens… hope JaFLABBY Russell wakes up and gets it!

    Hope we at least win enough tio compete and make it to a wild card and hope hope hope!!!

    Then again i hope to date Salma Hayak one day LOL!!!

    Oh well, so much for hope in humans!!!

    Regardless, Only one Nation baby… RAIDER NATION!!!

  1043. 4evaRaider Says:

    Morning Nation!

  1044. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Wow…Prime is a d&*k!!!
    What Nnamdi said is right…Russell has to prepare! Its all on him!!!

  1045. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,SUPER-BOWL AND THEN NASCAR..WOOPEE !!

  1046. hwnrdr Says:

    Sorry, didn’t read up on last nights draft…
    MR was at his best Al bashing again…

  1047. neilb Says:

    A good morning from the other side of the pond.

  1048. neilb Says:

    Nascar ? Never been able to get into that,love F1 though.

  1049. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    FORGIVE MY LACK OF RACING KNOWLEDGE NEILB, FORMULA-1, IS THAT OPEN-WHEEL STUFF ?

  1050. neilb Says:

    Not sure what you mean by “open wheel”.

  1051. neilb Says:

    Single seat,open cock-pit if that’s what you mean.

  1052. RaiderRockstar Says:

    sorry guys. I’m about 1050 posts late reading this article so this has already been said 999 times by other posters I’m sure …

    Nnamdi only wants Cable back for continuity. not exactly a ringing endorsement

    Nnamdi basically echoed what fans, coaches and other teammates have said about rumors regarding Russell. he’s not prepared and he doesn’t put the work in

    Nnamdi said “it’s on him” not Al Davis or the coaching staff.

    couldn’t agree more

  1053. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    BAD WORDING ON MY PART, R THE WHEEL’S VISABLE ,LIKE INDY CAR’S ?

  1054. neilb Says:

    You’ve got it now Dirt-lot.

  1055. RaiderRockstar Says:

    did anybody watch the Pro Bowl?

    I see NFC QB’s threw for a combined 430 yards & 3 TD’s …

    wow. did they avoid Nnamdi?

    or did he get abused like last year?

  1056. neilb Says:

    In all the time I’ve followed football I’ve only made a point to watch one Pro Bowl.It was Howie Long’s last game.

  1057. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    DAMN ROCKSTAR,ALWAY’S TRY’N 2 TALK FOOTBALL EARLY IN A.M…

  1058. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LOL

    good morning Dirt Lot

  1059. hwnrdr Says:

    LOL…I haven’t watche dthe pro-bowl in years!!! Funny thing, growing up in Hawaii…never even been to one, either!

  1060. neilb Says:

    Dirt-lot…

    Are you not looking forward to the World Cup this summer ?

  1061. RaiderRockstar Says:

    “You’ve been acting well the last several years in Oakland (like) you want to be there.”

    -Deion Sanders

    ***

    what was Nnamdi’s response?

  1062. hwnrdr Says:

    I know…that is what I wanted to see…

  1063. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    YES NEILB, WHEN DO THEY ANNOUNCE THE GROUPING’S ? I ALLWAY’S TAKE BRAZIL IN THE OFFICE POOL..

  1064. RaiderRockstar Says:

    this blog takes forever to load (refresh) …

    must be the 1050+ posts

    ahem (clears throat) Jerry

    can we at least get a new fix stating something about Martz in Chicago or Zorn in Baltimore? both have at least something to do with new OC Hue Jackson

  1065. neilb Says:

    “what was Nnamdi’s response?”

    Did he sing that “pants on the ground” song?

  1066. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dirt Lot: I p1ssed in the office pool

    sorry bro. couldn’t help myself :)

  1067. RaiderRockstar Says:

    trade DMAC for Kara DioGuardi!

  1068. neilb Says:

    Dirt-lot…

    World Cup:Group C.

    1 Algeria
    2 England
    3 Slovenia
    4 USA

  1069. hwnrdr Says:

    Martz in Chicago? Poor Cutler…

  1070. neilb Says:

    Dirt-lot…

    Saturday, 12 June 2010

    England v USA, Gp C, 19:30

  1071. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    BETTER THE POOL THAN THE COFFEE POT I GUESS ROCKSTAR.. HAVE A GOOD DAY ALL..WORK 2 B DONE….

  1072. RaiderRockstar Says:

    you too Dirt Lot.

    enjoy the day man!

  1073. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Martz worked for NFL Network and famously criticized Bears quarterback Jay Cutler for his attitude during the postgame press conference after the Bears’ season-opening loss to the Packers.

    “He just doesn’t get it,” Martz said on the air. “He just doesn’t understand that he represents a great head coach and the rest of the players on that team. Somebody needs to talk to him.”

    But Martz also has praised Cutler as having more talent than any quarterback he has seen.

    Getting Cutler’s stamp of approval for the Bears’ offensive coordinator position is a potential road block for Martz. But if Martz can do for Cutler what he did for Kurt Warner, Marc Bulger and Kitna, they are likely to get along just fine.

    -chicago tribune

  1074. neilb Says:

    That’s the deal with Martz.You either end up in the Super Bowl or end up in the toilet bowl.There’s no middle ground.

  1075. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Mike Martz flew to Tennessee to meet with Jay Cutler over the weekend, sources tell the Chicago Tribune.

  1076. neilb Says:

    Things to do….

    Have a great Monday everyone.

  1077. RaiderRockstar Says:

    later Neil

  1078. jhill Says:

    Mike Iupati, G, Idaho. There is a lot of intrigue about him. He is no doubt an elite prospect who will be a first-round pick because of his size, strength, aggressiveness and athleticism. NFL personnel men want to see his athleticism in person to figure out if he can play tackle in the NFL. Nearly every scout who has evaluated Iupati on film says he has the footwork and athleticism to be an NFL left tackle. If he shines in the bowl game and during Senior Bowl drills, he could challenge Oklahoma State’s Russell Okung and Oklahoma’s Trent Williams to be the first offensive lineman drafted.

  1079. jhill Says:

    01/29/2010 – Mike Iupati has been everywhere this week. Not around Mobile – though he has covered some ground there, too – but along the North team’s offensive line. The 6-foot-5, 325-pounder from Idaho has made an impression wherever he’s played. “I think he is one of the stars of the week,” Mike Mayock, an analyst for the NFL Network, said of Iupati, a consensus All-American pick this season for the Vandals. “He is one of the few people that I could say that could probably start at any of the five positions in the NFL on the offensive line. So I think he’s a first-round pick. On tape, he was a first-round pick and he’s done nothing but help himself by coming here.” Wednesday, Iupati was placed at right tackle and performed well. At Tuesday’s practice, he got in some work at guard, the position he played at Idaho. But the Detroit Lions’ coaching staff placed him at the all-important left tackle spot, too, just to take a look. “I got beat three or four times (at left tackle),” Iupati said. “But by the end of the day I was doing OK.” Throughout Senior Bowl practices this week, Iupati has done much better than OK. Among those paying attention and becoming a fan is North team coach Jim Schwartz. “The thing scouts, general managers and coaches want to see when you step up to this level and go against guys from bigger conferences is if there is an adjustment,” Schwartz said. “There hasn’t been a whole lot of adjustment for Mike. He’s right at home playing against these other guys, who are the best players in the country.” – Tommy Hicks, Alabama Live

  1080. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Marty Hurney and coach John Fox went to great lengths to keep Peppers in 2009, going against his public wishes to be allowed to leave as a free agent. The Panthers used the restrictive franchise tag and paid him an NFL-high $18.2 million. That counts a $1.5 million bonus for making the Pro Bowl after he recorded 10 1/2 sacks.

    Using the tag again next season would cost about $20.1 million, plus another $1.5 million for the Pro Bowl and $250,000 for each playoff win. Signing the 30-year-old to a long-term contract could likely cost in upward of $15 million a year.

    too costly for Oakland?

  1081. Dakota Says:

    Al, things are getting booooooring around here….fire someone.

  1082. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jhill: I have a feeling Oakland will pass on Mike Iupati and he’ll be snagged by Buffalo, Dungver, Jax, Miami, SF or Seattle …

  1083. jhill Says:

    Iupati had a strange game. He looked very good at left guard. On a touchdown run by Oregon’s LaGarrette Blount (who looked great), for example, Iupati chipped on one of the defensive linemen and then made a block on a linebacker at the second level of the defense. It was a nice showcase of his strength and athleticism. When he moved to right guard, however, he struggled. He had two bad plays in a row early in the game and was flagged for an obvious holding penalty that negated a touchdown. He had a hard time both with power rushers – Tennessee’s Dan Williams – and speed rushers, Georgia’s Geno Atkins. Atkins, in fact, spun free of Iupati later in the first half for a quarterback sack. Entering the game, the announcers were raving that Iupati could play five positions on the offensive line. Maybe he can, but today he was only good at one – left guard.

  1084. jhill Says:

    Who do you think we are going to take Rockstar?

  1085. Dakota Says:

    After last year’s draft I can’t even find the energy to talk potential draft picks….damn you Al.

  1086. jhill Says:

    “Oooooh, flat-backed him,” said an NFL assistant coach in the stands at Land Peebles Stadium.

    Sure enough, Idaho’s Mike Iupati had done just that, putting an opposing defensive lineman on his back, part of an impressive showing by one of the top-rated guards in the draft.

  1087. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 6:57 am
    trade DMAC for Kara DioGuardi!

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Would be the trade of the century, and go a long way toward restoring Al’s image as a personnel genius.

  1088. jhill Says:

    He rewarded you with DMAC the year before that. I’m sure you’ll find the energy with a few more Iupati clips.

  1089. jhill Says:

    Think of the Somoan connection with Satele! Might be good for each other.

    Gallery-Satele-Iupati solidifies the middle of our line!

  1090. Thec07 Says:

    Neck car, errr i mean Nascar is cool. Richard Petty, the best to ever do it…..
    Jeff Gordon, bay area boy, the second coming of Petty…

  1091. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Who do you think we are going to take Rockstar?

    ***

    Jhill: I think Al will give Cable one of those Cadillacs he missed out on last year.

    Russell Okung, Anthony Davis, Trent Williams or Bryan Bulaga

  1092. Thec07 Says:

    At this point I dont care who we take, just as long as they arent a reach or a project. Draft a real football player, not a projection…

    DT/MLB/OL freakin pick one…

  1093. Seymour Bush Says:

    Our offensive line was really a bit of a mess last year particularly when Rob Gallery was out, which was most of the season. Was there another unit on our entire team that needs as much upgrade work as the Oline? I can’t think of one.

  1094. Thec07 Says:

    DO NOT, draft a “Skill player”…

  1095. vegas raider Says:

    Man that Richochet sure has a lot of energy to burn.

    Does anyone even read those novels he is constantly tossing out?

    I thought both Iupati and McCluster were workout warriors this week, and when it came game-time, not too impressive.

    Iupati’s first quarter was about on par with a Cornell Green 1st quarter. One blatant hold bringing back a TD, than a wiff and a sack allowed.

    I know he improved later in the game, and is very athletic, but I don’t see him going in the top 20.

    He is not a LT, and guards just don’t get taken that high.

  1096. Thec07 Says:

    The last 3 years we should have drafted for trench warfare. Last year we passed on a great LB draft, for some unknown reason. How come we never hear that so and so from player personnel was firewd for cause…

  1097. jhill Says:

    DT Geno Atkins, Georgia: Atkins’ burst off the snap disrupted offensive linemen throughout the week of practice. Some observers projected a tough Saturday for Atkins based on his matchup with Idaho offensive guard Mike Iupati, the top-ranked guard in Mobile this week. Atkins’ burst and agility was too much for Iupati. Atkins recorded a sack of Oregon State quarterback Sean Canfield in the second quarter.

  1098. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Chris Morris & Khalif Barnes = RFA’s

    Cornell Green & Langston Walker = UFA’s

    I don’t think we’ll re-sign any of these scrubs.

    Cable seems sold on Satele at Center though – unfortunately.

    not sure on the contract status of Carlisle & Pears, but they should be axed as well …

    give Jim Michalczik some input on finding some OL for the ZBS. Cable obviously has failed in that regard

  1099. jhill Says:

    Mike Iupati (6′6-330) out of Idaho has shot up the draft charts like a rocket as the season progressed. He got some snaps this week at his natural guard spot and a peek at OT in Mobile. Iupati has a mean streak and tremendous size and strength. He handled himself very well in pass rush drills, finished his blocks and gave total effort in dominating his opponents.

  1100. vegas raider Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 7:55 am
    Our offensive line was really a bit of a mess last year particularly when Rob Gallery was out, which was most of the season. Was there another unit on our entire team that needs as much upgrade work as the Oline? I can’t think of one.

    **********************************

    LB’s.

    Look at the top team stopping the run last year, the Packers. Two 1st round picks, and a 2nd rounder amongst their 4 LB’s.

    Jets, signed a Pro Bowler (Scott) drafted Harris in the 2nd and Gholston in the first.

    Ravens have Lewis and Suggs, both top 20 picks.

    We have, what else, 6th rounders and 3rd rounders, with undrafted FA as depth.

    Pathetic.

  1101. jhill Says:

    Wassup fellas!

  1102. vegas raider Says:

    Did Iupati line up against anybody that is going to play on Sunday’s up in Idaho? I know they played USC, but talk about some crappy competition.

    I would be more comfortable with a guy from the SEC or Big Ten, were there is legit NFL talent on the lines week in and week out.

  1103. bcz24 Says:

    Surprised no one has mentioned that the only injury reported from the Pro-toilet Bowl was Nnamdi with an undisclosed knee injury… hope its not bad!

  1104. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Vegas:

    Howard – 2nd rounder
    Morrison – 3rd rounder
    Williams – 3rd rounder
    Alston – 3rd rounder

  1105. Dakota Says:

    Another year of Satele, Cable and Fargas?

    Shoot me now and spare me the pain.

  1106. Seymour Bush Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 7:56 am

    Man that Richochet sure has a lot of energy to burn.

    Does anyone even read those novels he is constantly tossing out?
    ======================================================

    No. You mean those self glossing, ridiculous self aggrandizing epic pieces of crap? No. No one does.

  1107. jhill Says:

    I think Okung and Williams will be gone when we pick. Bulaga wouldn’t be a bad pick at all. I’m just liking what I’m hearing about Iupati. Could wind up being the best Olineman in the draft? We need a guy like that on our line. Any one of the guys who could end up being the best. I like your names, but I’d add Iupati to that.

    Vegas, you might be able to find “A” guard in later rounds, but that guard won’t be on the level on an Iupati.

  1108. jhill Says:

    As a group, I wouldn’t say LB is an issue. MLB in itself is a HUGE need. But Scott and Howard at OLB are right where they need to be.

  1109. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Dakota Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 8:05 am
    Another year of Satele, Cable and Fargas?

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Your shuold be more worried about another year of Morrison, McFadden and Morris.

  1110. vegas raider Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 8:05 am
    Vegas:

    Howard – 2nd rounder
    Morrison – 3rd rounder
    Williams – 3rd rounder
    Alston – 3rd rounder

    ********************************

    I was thinking more of Scott (6th rounder), Norris (5th rounder) and Ricky Brown (undrafted)

    But yeah your right, Alston and Williams in the 3rd??? Great job Al!!!!!!

  1111. Seymour Bush Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 7:59 am

    Seymour Bush Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 7:55 am
    Our offensive line was really a bit of a mess last year particularly when Rob Gallery was out, which was most of the season. Was there another unit on our entire team that needs as much upgrade work as the Oline? I can’t think of one.

    **********************************

    LB’s.
    ======================================

    I thought the LB unit was a close 2nd as well.

  1112. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    ^You

  1113. jhill Says:

    Another year of Satele, Cable and Fargas?

    ——————————————————-

    Where you been man?

    It’s Satele, Jackson, and McFadden this year!

  1114. Dakota Says:

    Jim Otto, Dave Dalby, Don Mosebar and even Barrett Robbins until he lost it…great centers…now we are stuck with the weak Samson…

  1115. vegas raider Says:

    Fargas was our feature back when our offense had some of it’s most productive games this year (Bengals and Steelers)

    Not saying, but just saying.

    I think we scored 20 points 4 times last year (Bengals, Steelers, week 1, and at Den), and we were 3-1 when we did.

    We need to got more stout against the run, but anything other than the worst offense in the league would help the D dramatically.

  1116. vegas raider Says:

    I want to talk to Samsom….fly up to the moon!!!!

    (See if anyone gets it)

  1117. jhill Says:

    Vegas,

    Would you rather have the #3 OT or the #1 OG?

  1118. Frank YoooooooLLL Says:

    What the hell Jerry, are you on vacation or what. The same sheit has been on here for a week. Nothing new? Make something up like all the other journalists……………

  1119. jhill Says:

    For all that doubted USC safety Taylor Mays, he demonstrated a good impersonation of another former Trojan safety Ronnie Lott with his bone jawing hits this week. But the 6′3, 235 pounder might be more suited for LB on Sundays. He had a little trouble in pass coverage.

    ——————————————————-

    MLB?

  1120. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Another year of Satele, Cable and Fargas?

    Shoot me now and spare me the pain.

    ***

    Another year of Russell, Carlisle & Warren too i’ll betcha!

    isn’t that a Bon Jovi song?

    gimmie something for the pain! somethin I can use! haha

  1121. vegas raider Says:

    jhill Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 8:15 am
    Vegas,

    Would you rather have the #3 OT or the #1 OG?

    ****************************

    Ahhh…..A taste of my own medicine. Yes the #1 OG.

    I just don’t want to see the #1 G get punched in the mouth like he did in the first quarter. With his mean streak, and borderline holding on a lot of calls, plus just being on the Raiders and being young, if we did draft him, I would anticipate a lot of penalties the first year or two.

  1122. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Did Iupati line up against anybody that is going to play on Sunday’s up in Idaho? I know they played USC, but talk about some crappy competition.

    I would be more comfortable with a guy from the SEC or Big Ten, were there is legit NFL talent on the lines week in and week out.
    ————————————————–
    Mark Schlereth played for Idaho. And what about Boise State? And buy the way, as a Raider fan, haven’t you seen firsthand that the SEC does not necessarily equate to NFL success.

  1123. Raider O Says:

    Cut Warren, Fargas, cooper, Green, WR Walker, Pears, both FBs, and ST/LB Euk.

  1124. jhill Says:

    LOL Vegas!

    Point well taken. #1 OG who “could” challenge everyone of our guys for their starting spot? Even if it take a year or so to settle into that position, whatever it is, I like it. Let him play OG to get his feet wet. Give Mario another year to see if he can cut the mustard.

    I have a feeling Satele is going to be ok this year.

  1125. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I was thinking more of Scott (6th rounder), Norris (5th rounder) and Ricky Brown (undrafted)

    But yeah your right, Alston and Williams in the 3rd???

    ***

    Trevor Scott is solid at WLB. probably our best pass rusher despite his lack of size. tweener lines up at DE on obvious passing downs and creates havoc.

    Ricky Brown is solid on special teams and he’s probably the best tackler of any of our LB’s. just gets hurt WAY too often. groin last year. ankle this year

    Norris was a 4th rounder who barely made the practice squad. Has Nixon passed him on the depth chart yet?

    Alston was drafted by the Rams in Round 3. we got him in free agency a few years back dirt cheap. Also great on ST

    We need to slide Morrison outside and find a real MLB. somebody who has leadership and delivers bone crushing hits behind the line of scrimmage.

  1126. RaiderRockstar Says:

    O,

    cut Isaiah Ekejiuba?

    he’s probably one of the only 10 players on the roster who does thier job and does it well!

    are you mad ???

  1127. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Frank YoooooooLLL Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 8:16 am
    What the hell Jerry, are you on vacation or what. The same sheit has been on here for a week. Nothing new? Make something up like all the other journalists……………
    ————————————————-
    I’ll take Jerry’s place while he is away.

    New Post: Harbaugh Seen at the Olive Garden with Herrera!

    TMZ reported late last night that Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh was seen dining with Raider’s official John Herrera and a couple of young ladies (possible Raiderettes). Herrera was seen scolding the waiter for not providing enough bread sticks. This could raise speculation about the young Stanford coach possibly coming to the Raiders. When asked about his fate, Tom Cable replied, “What, me worry?”

  1128. RaiderRockstar Says:

    so you guys would rather have Iupati & Green on the right side than Carlisle & Anthony Davis or Bryan Bulaga?

    NOT ME !!!

  1129. r8eray Says:

    Morning Nation!!

  1130. SacRaider Says:

    I wouldn’t annoint Iupati as the pick yet. LG is actually our only solid position..

    “Idaho’s Mike Iupati struggled noticeably at right guard in the Senior Bowl.

    Iupati played well at left guard, showing nice strength and athleticism to spring Oregon’s LaGarrette Blount for a touchdown. On the right side, though, he was dominated by Tennessee NT Dan Williams and Georgia DE Geno Atkins. Billed as a versatile lineman, Iupati may be limited to left guard in the pros.
    Source: Sacramento Bee”

  1131. vegas raider Says:

    J,

    There is only 2 real job openings on the line, RG, RT, and that doesn’t count what they may do in FA. So, if we do take an O-lineman in the first, it would sense if it was a C/G prospect.

    Henderson will be, and probably should be our LT for one more year. If he doesn’t deliver, get a cadillac next year in the first. Makes much more sense to me.

  1132. vegas raider Says:

    I thought he got his lunched handed to him in the first quarter. Dan Williams is a stud, but he will be facing “Dan Williams’es” in the pro’s every week.

  1133. Raider O Says:

    O Mock Draft 5.0:

    1- LB Weatherspoon
    2- OT T Williams or Kyle Calloway
    3- DT Cam Thomas 6′4 331
    3- DE Austen Lane ( move Seymour inside)
    4- LB Micah Johnson
    5- CB Walter Thurmond
    5- KR/PR Leroy Vann
    7- OG/ FB

    FA:
    -Sign the best FB available
    -Sign one of the top 3 Cs.
    -Sign a descent G to compete with Walker.
    -sign a vet WR that can teach by example

    UDFA:
    - sign a RB

  1134. Midwest Fan Says:

    As for Nnamdi at the probowl, I was watching to see what he would do with Revis on the other side. There were a couple of WR bubble screens thrown his way and a fake reverse thrown by D Jackson towards the endzone but that was it for Nnamdi’s action.

    He was taken out sometime in the 2nd quarter in favor of Champ Bailey who played the rest of the game opposite Revis. I didn’t see Nnamdi the rest of the game.

    Suppose that’s what you get for having Norv and the chargers staff coaching the AFC side. I guess as long as he doesn’t get hurt than who cares!

  1135. ColoradoRaiderFan Says:

    I see all of your comments on Iupati and I wonder if I saw the same game as you. I only watched the first half, but I saw a guy who was good at run blocker, but had to hold on almost every passing play. Not ticky tack holds that you see most of the time, but blatant both hands on the jersey. I don’t see him transitioning to a tackle.

  1136. r8eray Says:

    Grief Councelor, is that report (Jim and John) on the TMZ web site??

  1137. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    R8eray, probably not since I made it up.

  1138. vegas raider Says:

    Gotta run….good talking Nation!!!

  1139. bcz24 Says:

    Midwest Fan Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 8:34 am
    As for Nnamdi at the probowl, I was watching to see what he would do with Revis on the other side. There were a couple of WR bubble screens thrown his way and a fake reverse thrown by D Jackson towards the endzone but that was it for Nnamdi’s action.

    He was taken out sometime in the 2nd quarter in favor of Champ Bailey who played the rest of the game opposite Revis. I didn’t see Nnamdi the rest of the game.

    Suppose that’s what you get for having Norv and the chargers staff coaching the AFC side. I guess as long as he doesn’t get hurt than who cares!
    ***********************************
    From Peter Kings MMQB:
    “I think this is the luck of the Raiders: one injury Sunday night, and it was an undisclosed knee injury to Nnamdi Asomugha. Will update you as events develop.”

  1140. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    Dude makes 1.5 mil to play STs!!! He signed a 3 year contract which made the highest paid ST player excluding Ps & Ks.

    Cut him now!!!

  1141. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    This is a real story from TMZ: http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/30/cbs-super-bowl-commerical-rejected-mancrunch/

  1142. SacRaider Says:

    Raider O Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 8:38 am
    RR,

    Dude makes 1.5 mil to play STs!!! He signed a 3 year contract which made the highest paid ST player excluding Ps & Ks.

    Cut him now!!!
    ———————————

    Why? Theres no cap right now, and even when theres been a cap, i’ve never heard of the raiders having problems getting under it..

  1143. Raider O Says:

    Colorado,

    I AGREE 100%

    He is not good at pass blocking, he has to hold on every play.
    I think he is overhyped, and Weatherspoon is underrated.
    Last 2 years Spoon had 261 TKLs, 33 TFLs, 10 Sacks, and 4 INTs.

  1144. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Ekejiuba, Brown, Alston & Williams = solid on special teams

    Lawton & Stewart too.

    problems occur when guys like Alston, Williams & Lawton are inserted into the starting lineup due to lack of competition or injury.

    Satele, Carlisle, Green, Fargas, Warren & Eugene would have a hard time cracking another team’s 53 man roster. they might stick as backups if the price was right, but none of them would be starting or earning the kind of pay they are getting here in Oakland…

  1145. Raider O Says:

    Sac,

    We refused to give Kevin B an extra .5 mil last year, but we gave Euk & Brown a total of 3 mil that year.

  1146. RaiderRockstar Says:

    O,

    I’m drawing a blank here …

    who is Kevin B?

  1147. Chris in NY Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 8:03 am
    Did Iupati line up against anybody that is going to play on Sunday’s up in Idaho? I know they played USC, but talk about some crappy competition.

    I would be more comfortable with a guy from the SEC or Big Ten, were there is legit NFL talent on the lines week in and week out.

    —————————-

    In terms of depth, sure SEC, Big Ten and other BCS conference schools are typically better from teams from the WAC or other mid-majors. But there are a ton of superstar players to come out of those mid-major conferences as well. Not to mention that the disparity between the conferences is also overhyped. What did Utah do to 1-loss Alabama in the 2008 Sugar Bowl? Demolished them. Boise took down Oklahoma in that classic Fiesta Bowl game a few years back and knocked off a real explosive Oregon team this year. The BCS schools know they are overhyped and that’s why they ducked Boise State and TCU this year. Because they knew if both teams beat BCS conference schools in their bowl games — a real possibility — it would really hurt the big conferences’ stranglehold on the system.

    Anyway,
    - Ben Roethlisberger is from the MAC. JaMarcus Russell is from the SEC. Who would you rather have?
    - Marshall Faulk was from the WAC. Lawrence Phillips was from the Big 12. Who’s a Hall of Famer and who’s, um, not?
    - DeMarcus Ware is from the Sun Belt Conference. Jared Allen is from the WAC (Idaho, actually) would you rather have one of those guys or Jarvis Moss (SEC) or Tyler Brayton (Big 12)?

    These are just a couple examples off the top of my head. The reality is there are many great players out there right now and many Hall of Famers to come out of these less-hyped conferences. The competition is one thing you have to figure in to analyzing a player but it’s ridiculous to discount guys from these second-tier leagues.

  1148. RaiderRockstar Says:

    trade the walrus for Kevin Bacon!

  1149. Raider O Says:

    I prefer to have had Kevin B over Euk & Bown.
    He wanted 2.5 mil, I would have paid him that, and signed a backup for 500k.

  1150. Raider O Says:

    Kevin Burnett!

    LMAO @ K Bacon

  1151. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LB Kevin Burnett from Dallas?

    if he wanted to be a Raider, he’d be one …

    he didn’t chose SD for the money. He wanted to be a part of a winning organization

    Is 46 solo tackles & 2 sacks worth $2.5 million? thats what he produced this year.

    not in my book. dude got knocked out by Glen Coffee!

    Morrison, Howard & Scott all trumped his numbers this year by a good margin.

  1152. Chris in NY Says:

    I can’t believe Nnamdi got hurt in the f-ing Pro Bowl. Hopefully it was something real minor and he just pulled himself out for precaution. Those guys were all playing half-speed all game just so nobody gets hurt, and now this? Unbelievable.

  1153. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Nnamdi got hurt because somebody actually challenged him.

    D-Jax made him look like Stanford Routt in coverage…

  1154. Dakota Says:

    ESPN is reporting Nnamdi has a torn MCL and ACL, will likely miss entire 2010 season, but may be ready by training camp of 2011.

    BAN THE FUKIN PRO BOWL!!!!

  1155. Chris in NY Says:

    Rockstar,
    You’re a dork. Nnamdi didn’t give up one catch in the Pro Bowl. Most of Jackson’s big plays came against Champ Bailey and he had a catch or two against Revis as well.

  1156. RaiderRockstar Says:

    ESPN is reporting Nnamdi has a torn MCL and ACL, will likely miss entire 2010 season, but may be ready by training camp of 2011.

    ***

    does that mean we’re going to re-sign Routt or draft Joe Haden 8th overall ???

  1157. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    u got to be kidding.

  1158. Chris in NY Says:

    Dakota,
    You’re lying … right?

  1159. r8eray Says:

    When was the last time this blog went in the 1000’s?

  1160. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Nnamdi didn’t give up one catch in the Pro Bowl.

    ***

    he made 3 tackles. none of those were guys he was covering or supposed to be covering?

  1161. Chris in NY Says:

    I think Dakota is just being a douche. No reports of anything like that online. Haven’t been watching ESPN on TV but there’s no news like that on their Web site or anything else.

  1162. r8eray Says:

    Nnamdi will be alright! BSPN will do and say anything just to bring down the NATION!!!

  1163. bcz24 Says:

    Nnamdi DID get hurt at the procrap bowl but no specifics of the injury have been released.

  1164. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    nothing on espn,espn2, or espnews.

  1165. Chris in NY Says:

    I know the first tackle was on Vernon Davis who was pretty much left uncovered by the LBs and Nnamdi came up and got him after a big game. Don’t remember the other two tackles but I’d bet that no, they weren’t guys he was covering or supposed to be covering. Could’ve been similar to the Davis play, maybe a screen pass or maybe a running play. Didn’t see him get beat for anything and with 70+ points on the board a lot of other corners obviously did. Still, it’s the Pro Bowl and no one is trying all that hard anyway so it doesn’t mean a whole hell of a lot.

  1166. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Dakota Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 9:10 am
    ESPN is reporting Nnamdi has a torn MCL and ACL, will likely miss entire 2010 season, but may be ready by training camp of 2011.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Dakota = bitter DMAC apologist.

  1167. Bob Marley Says:

    lol…don’t get fooled by Dakota, he does this every now and then.

  1168. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Dakota usually provides a bogus link too. I will supply one from my fantasy life:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/mcfadden_to_detroit/story?id=487764

  1169. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    Burnett started 7 games due to injury, and he played well when he wasn’t injured.
    Also, he is a better fit in the 4-3 scheme and he wanted to play for us, if we matched the price.
    Why play for less for a losing team?

  1170. Bob Marley Says:

    I’m a little behind the draft stuff, is there a chance the Florida Center Pouncey can be had in round 2?….that’s a guy I’d love to add.

  1171. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Burnett started 7 games due to injury, and he played well when he wasn’t injured.
    Also, he is a better fit in the 4-3 scheme and he wanted to play for us, if we matched the price.

    ***

    O, Burnett actually played in 11 games.

    how do you know he’s better suited for a 4-3? he played in a 3-4 in both Dallas & SD.

    and how do you know he wanted to play for us if we matched the price?

    link please.

    just because he’s from Inglewood/Compton doesn’t mean he wants to be a Raider …

  1172. Bob Marley Says:

    Maurkice Pouncey 6′5″ 318, complete Center, just 20 years old.

    I’d move up a few spots in grab him late in round 1 or at the top of round 2.

  1173. Dakota Says:

    hee

  1174. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Whatever……..no lineman on either side is being picked first………….40 time guy will be picked………..maybe joe haden from florida when he runs a 4.3

  1175. jhill Says:

    Joe Haden wouldn’t be a bad pick! Put CJ in the nickle role where he belongs!

  1176. Copenhagen_Fan Says:

    Couldn’¨t see that Nnamdi was injured but found THIS!

    http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/9987/afc-pro-bowl-observations

    Looks like he wants out of Oakland

  1177. jhill Says:

    What about Cornbread at RG?

    What’s that you say about OTs turning into OGs Dakota?

  1178. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Yamon Figurs (signed 01/13) has 80 kick returns & 41 punt returns over the past 3 years for the Ravens & Bucs.

    23 yards per return on kicks. 1 TD

    8 yards per return on punts. 1 TD

    also has 3 catches for 86 yards and a TD during that time span …

    I don’t think we’re going to spend a 2nd or 3rd rounder on a guy to take on these duties.

    Higgins will get another shot. Nick Miller will finally get his shot and Justin Miller could always be re-signed for peanuts.

  1179. bcz24 Says:

    Revis and Nnamdi on the same team would = weak nickle/dime corners and linebackers covering slot receivers and getting burned. You would spend so much of your cap on those 2 guys that the entire rest of the team would have to be bums…

  1180. jhill Says:

    Henderson-Gallery-Satele-Green-Barnes …..

    hmmmmm

    Would allow us to use the #8 pick on the Dline!

  1181. 4evaRaider Says:

    I know you at work RRS….so here ya go
    ******************************************************

    Kirby Lee/US Presswire
    Nnamdi Asomugha (21) says he and Darrelle Revis have talked about playing in the same secondary.MIAMI — A few AFC thoughts and observations from its 41-34 victory in Sunday night’s Pro Bowl at Sun Life Stadium …

    I just heard one of the scariest ideas anybody has mentioned to me in a long time.

    The AFC’s starting cornerbacks, Darrelle Revis and Nnamdi Asomugha, want to play on the same team. As fantastical as that notion might be, it’s frightening to consider.

    Pro Bowl Coverage
    • Recap: AFC pulls away in fourth
    • AFC Pro Bowl observations
    • NFC Pro Bowl observations
    • Romo hangs out, looks forward
    • NFL Nation Live replay
    • More: 2010 Pro Bowl coverage

    Oakland Raiders star Asomugha was smiling when he brought up the dream scenario, but insisted he was “dead serious” and has spoken to New York Jets coach Rex Ryan about it.

    “Me and Revis have been talking to Rex to try to do something,” Asomugha said. “You may see us in the future. There’s a little bit of talk going on. Either he’s coming to Oakland or something else will happen.”

    Said Revis: “Me and him have talked about it, but I can’t really control that situation. I don’t know if he can either.”

    As much of a nightmare as it would be for opposing quarterbacks, it would be just as daunting for a team’s capologist to figure out a way to pay them both. Asomugha has two years left on a three-year, $45.3 million contract that made him the highest-paid defensive back in NFL history.

    Revis, considered by most to be the NFL’s top cover cornerback, might make more than that soon.

    “That’s a lot of money they’re going to be pushing around,” Revis said, “but that’ll be tough for quarterbacks. I’ll tell you that.”

    Revis and Asomugha on the field together would elicit memories of Mike Haynes and Lester Hayes for the Oakland Raiders in the 1980s.

    “In a league where the art of man-to-man has kind of gone out of style, that could bring it back,” Asomugha said.

    “You always want that as a player, to have that guy on the other side of you that’s equally as talented and can make plays. It fuels you a little bit. We’d been joking around with [AFC coach] Norv Turner throughout practices all week, and with [NFL commissioner] Roger Goodell. He said they probably wouldn’t allow us on the same team.”

  1182. Bob Marley Says:

    I agree with jhill, if Haden really is the best player available and he might be, just grab him, go for the sure thing, we need players who can play right away and Haden would start from day 1.

    That being said, right now I’d like to get McClain in round 1 and Maurkice Pouncey with our 2nd pick, even if we have to move up……draft OT-OT or OT-DT with our two 3rd round picks.

  1183. RaiderRockstar Says:

    What about Cornbread at RG?

    ***

    might as well get Chris Morris, Langston Walker, Paul McQuistan, Erik Pears, Khalif Barnes, Kwame Harris, Brandon Rodd, Roy Schuening, Elliot Vallejo or Tim Mattran to play RG or RT then if we’re looking to keep scrubs on the starting OL!

    Why even switch out Cooper Carlisle if thats the case?

  1184. Dakota Says:

    Worked for Gallery. Cornbread can run-block, he just can’t pass-block. Any he may have fewer penalties if he isn’t facing as many pass rushers.

  1185. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Henderson-Gallery-Satele-Green-Barnes

    ***

    LOL

    Henderson/Gallery/Wade/Carlisle/Green would produce the same results …

  1186. jhill Says:

    Becasue Cornbread is bigger and stronger than Carlisle. Very good run blocker. Shouldn’t get beat to the QB by DTs.

  1187. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Oakland Raiders star Asomugha was smiling when he brought up the dream scenario, but insisted he was “dead serious” and has spoken to New York Jets coach Rex Ryan about it.

    “Me and Revis have been talking to Rex to try to do something,” Asomugha said. “You may see us in the future. There’s a little bit of talk going on.

    ***

    trade Nnamdi to the Jets for Kris Jenkins & David Harris!

  1188. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jhill & Dakota:

    Green is finally an UFA.

    Barnes is a RFA.

    do you really want to re-sign these guys for an experiment at RG & RT? and what if Barnes doesn’t pan out at RT? Green would be right back starting at RT…

  1189. Dakota Says:

    Nnamdi might not like being exposed playing next to Revis.

  1190. jhill Says:

    I say let’s pick up where we left off last summer before Barnes broke his leg. Let him and Mario battle it out for LT with the loser moving over to RT.

    We could then draft the best DT on the board to replace Warren in the starting lineup. Then again, we could go ahead and move seymour inside and draft a guy like Morgan to play DE.

  1191. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Raiders aint getting mcclain……..he going to cleveland

  1192. jhill Says:

    Rockstar,

    Draft an OT prospect in rd 3 this year.

    If you look at Green’s strengths, they seem to translate well to OG. More about NOT having Carlisle back and not having enough picks to fix all the problems.

    Green at OT is not an option in my book.

  1193. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Green needs to go sell cars or insurance…………fuk that guy

  1194. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 10:20 am

    Nnamdi might not like being exposed playing next to Revis.
    ********************

    Exactly

  1195. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jhill: nice job of NOT answering the questions :)

    and still trying to hammer your point home…

  1196. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 9:25 am

    Dakota Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 9:10 am
    ESPN is reporting Nnamdi has a torn MCL and ACL, will likely miss entire 2010 season, but may be ready by training camp of 2011.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Dakota = bitter DMAC apologist.
    ******************************

    Bo= idiotic DMAC hater

  1197. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Raiders are bout to change the line period………The ZBS is outta here and we are going back to power scheme. Cut a few of those guys. Mario is my boy but I dont know if he can handle the power scheme………Gallery is soft and is better in ZBS. I say redo the entire line for heaven’s sake

  1198. 4evaRaider Says:

    1200th!

  1199. Bob Marley Says:

    One guy we should take a look at is Tony Ugoh from Indy, he lost his job as LT but he’s a talented player, he came here to visit before the 07 draft so they know about him, if he’s healthy and Indy is willing to move him, we should explore trade options.

  1200. The Return of Godliness Says:

    The interior of the Raiders line has been soft for so long. We need mean brutes who blast people off the ball

  1201. 4evaRaider Says:

    mans ;[

  1202. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raiders aint getting mcclain……..he going to cleveland

    ***

    D’Qwell Jackson & Eric Barton were both placed on IR in October. they’ll get those guys back

    Kamerion Wimbley is a stud

    plus Marcus Benard, David Bowens & Matt Roth have filled in nicely.

    they need some major help at WR & DB

  1203. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    It was listed in rotoworld.com, but that was a year ago. He started 7 games, and played in 11 games.

  1204. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Bob Marley………possibly so

  1205. Bob Marley Says:

    “The interior of the Raiders line has been soft for so long. We need mean brutes who blast people off the ball”

    Florida Center, Maurkice Pouncey fits the bill, get him late in round 1 or at the top of round 2.

  1206. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Green needs to go sell cars or insurance

    ***

    or mops!

  1207. The Return of Godliness Says:

    RRS………Eric Barton is close to being done. Mangina is back and will look to make the defense more stout and mcclain helps that out big time

  1208. Dakota Says:

    Sorry Jhill, I think we need to revamp the o-line, not just move some guys around. We can keep some of these scrubs in case the draft or free agents don’t pan out, but other than that, we need some CHANGE!

  1209. Norco Bob Says:

    Brian I just got a great email,..my rep just relocated me to row 1,..right in front of daves row 2 seats!!…hes gonna be pissed!!!!lol

  1210. Dakota Says:

    I think Al should file a tampering charge against the Jets.

    Maybe we could swap first round pick positions with them! Yeah baby!

  1211. jhill Says:

    do you really want to re-sign these guys for an experiment at RG & RT? and what if Barnes doesn’t pan out at RT?

    ——————————————————-

    I did answer these questions. Yes to Cornbread at RG and yes to Barnes competing for an OT spot. No to Green at OT.

  1212. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Bo= idiotic DMAC hater

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    You have no facts behind your blind ass DMAC fantasies. When he doesn’t fumble, trip, or get hurt he still only gets 3 YPC.

    Paying 500K per fumble is no way to buld a team.

  1213. jhill Says:

    I say redo the entire line for heaven’s sake

    ——————————————————-

    Could you be more specific? How would you go about it?

  1214. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Nrianne must be busy these days…he’s trying to squeeze a whole day’s worth of WRONG into 30 minutes.

  1215. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Sry, Brianne.

  1216. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Green & Barnes are free agents that you want to give new contracts to to try at positions they’ve never played before?

    you know neither of them can play tackle. that’s been established. Green at RG & Barnes at RT to fix the O-Line woes to comical

    thats like saying switching to a 3-4 defense with the same roster = solid run defense

    Kelly-Warren-Seymour
    Howard-Brown-Morrison-Scott

  1217. Chris in NY Says:

    Why would we draft a nickel corner at No. 8? No to Haden. No to McClain. I don’t mind going best player available but neither of those guys is in the top-10 and CB is probably our last area of need besides Kicker, Punter and long-snappper.

  1218. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Paying 500K per fumble is no way to buld a team.

    ***

    how much $$$ did we pay Russell per TD pass last year?

    how much $$$ did we pay Walker to run with the scout team offense?

    how much $$$ did we pay Kelly & Warren per tackle behind the LOS?

  1219. jhill Says:

    Relax Rockstar …

    Green and Barnes won’t be breaking the bank. You act like we’re talking real $ here. Those guys would get veteran minimums or slightly more and compete for a spot.

    I don’t know that Barnes can’t play OT. But I do know that Henderson and Green can’t play the position that well either. Cable brought Barnes in to challenge Henderson for the LEFT tackle spot. I think he should get another year since he BROKE HIS LEG before we could see the battle.

    Your 3-4 anlaogy is ridiculous. Saying moving Green to OG is not like saying move Warren to NT. Ridiculous!

  1220. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 10:51 am
    Paying 500K per fumble is no way to buld a team.

    ***

    how much $$$ did we pay Russell per TD pass last year?

    how much $$$ did we pay Walker to run with the scout team offense?

    how much $$$ did we pay Kelly & Warren per tackle behind the LOS?

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Other fine examples of how NOT to build a team. Cut losses on all, starting with the carbuncle on the ass of our franchise.

    DMAC.

  1221. jhill Says:

    How do you figure Haden and McClain aren’t top 10 talent?

  1222. Dakota Says:

    Draft o-line! Draft LBs! Draft a NT!

    Fire Cable before it is too late!

  1223. Bob Marley Says:

    Chris in NY

    I don’t know enough yet about the “pool” of 1st round candidates we have to choose from, but I know I want Florida C Maurkice Pouncey, 6′5 318 with our 2nd pick, trade up if you have to.

    And I’d like to acquire OT Tony Ugoh from Indy, the guy is talented, maybe Cable can help him, let’s see what it would take to get him.

    Later.

  1224. jhill Says:

    1 Rams 1-15
    2 Lions 2-14
    3 Bucs 3-13
    4 Redskins 4-12
    5 Chiefs 4-12
    6 Seahawks 5-11
    7 Browns 5-11
    8 Raiders 5-11

    ——————————————————

    Rams Redskins and Brown will all be looking for a QB.

  1225. RaiderRockstar Says:

    MRI revealed a fractured left ankle and Barnes only missed 6 weeks.

    started 2 games at RT when Green was injured. in those 2 games he gave up 2 sacks and had 2 false starts

    and he’s worth re-signing to play RT because WHY???

    and Green has played guard in the nfl WHEN ???

    Green has been in the NFL for 10 years and nobody ever thought of moving him to guard.

  1226. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I don’t know that Barnes can’t play OT.

    ***

    left tackle is his natural position. He started 16 games at LT for the Jags in 2008.

    3 false starts, 5 holding calls and 8 sacks allowed.

    I know he can’t play OT …

  1227. Seymour Bush Says:

    Mike Pouncey would be a very good choice for us in the top of the 2nd and would not be a reach at that spot. I like Haden at #8 as well. He’s a big physical corner, who plays well in man. Kind of fits our bill to a T really.

  1228. Dakota Says:

    http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/02/01/espn-nfl-crow-about-pro-bowl-ratings/

    FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. — The Pro Bowl is, as we’ve all heard millions of times, a meaningless exhibition that no one cares about.

    But the folks from ESPN and the NFL are boasting in the Super Bowl media center on Monday that a few people do care about the Pro Bowl. Actually, more than a few.

    The numbers are in from Sunday night’s game, and the Pro Bowl broadcast did a 7.9 overnight rating, which is 39 percent higher than the rating the Pro Bowl got on NBC last year. By way of comparison, that’s a better rating than the Orange Bowl or the final round of last year’s PGA Championship. It also dwarfs the 4.4 overnight rating that Sunday’s Lakers-Celtics game got on ABC.

    In other words, the NFL dominates television ratings to such an extent that even for a meaningless exhibition, it draws the kind of numbers that other sports leagues would kill for.

    The next two Pro Bowls will be in Hawaii, not in the Super Bowl host cities, but the NFL hasn’t yet decided whether to have them a week before the Super Bowl or a week after. However, Sunday’s strong ratings will likely make the NFL continue its practice of having the Pro Bowl the Sunday before the Super Bowl.

    And no matter how many people complain that the Pro Bowl is meaningless, everyone here from the NFL and ESPN is boasting that the Pro Bowl means plenty on the TV ratings front.
    +++++++

    Looks like their plan worked…the players didn’t show up but the viewers did lol.

  1229. jhill Says:

    I’ll say it again Rockstar …

    Because we don’t have enough draft picks to fix everything in one year.

    Langston Walker hadn’t played guard before this year and he looked decent. Green is bigger and stronger than Carlisle. Between Green and Carlisle, bigger and stronger, I’d rather have Walker or Green. Figured Cable likes Green more than Walker.

    I gave you my reasons for wanting Barnes to compete at LEFT tackle with Henderson and whoever we draft in the 3rd rd. It’s ok if you disagree, lol!

  1230. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’d rather let Cooper Carlisle battle with Brandon Rodd for the RG spot and let Erik Pears battle with Langston Walker for the RT spot than re-signing Green & Barnes …

    hand picked by OL expert Tom Cable along with Kwame Harris. 3 huge flops that have stunted the growth of both Russell & McFadden imo

  1231. jhill Says:

    3 false starts, 5 holding calls and 8 sacks allowed.

    ——————————————————-

    We went over this last summer. Sacks given up against Freeney, Peppers, and Mario Williams. I’m not going to dig that stuff up again. You don’t like the guy competing at OT. Duely noted.

  1232. 4evaRaider Says:

    1234

  1233. 4evaRaider Says:

    D’OH

  1234. Richochet Says:

    # jhill Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 10:07 am

    Henderson-Gallery-Satele-Green-Barnes …..

    hmmmmm

    Would allow us to use the #8 pick on the Dline!
    ===================
    Henderson, Satale, Barnes?
    None would start anywhere else.
    Henderson either led the league in sacks allowed, (through middle of dec) or ended up 2nd or so.
    Satale constantly got manhandled, which is why he was let go previously.
    Barnes is a backup, at best.

  1235. RaiderRockstar Says:

    1234 posts & counting ….

    nice job Jerry!

    he’s just showing off

  1236. jhill Says:

    Barnes didn’t even play last year. 2 games? And he stunted the growth of Russell and McFadden?

    We all know Green has been a disaster at OT not even sure why you keep bringing him up. Walker at RT? He can’t even move man. How would he be better than Green? Green and Walker are now just fat guys how need bump belly’s with the defensive fat guys like Jenkins and Wilfork. They have no business trying to block today’s edge rushers.

  1237. Richochet Says:

    Was pretty ignorant of Cable to ignore Kwame’s stats, believing HE would be able to turn a league leading penalty machine, who got beat like a drum, into a solid blind side LT.
    That wasn’t bad enough..he watches him AGAIN lead the league in penalties, for 12 games, before yanking him.

    Wasn’t the Oline Cable’s claim to fame?

  1238. jhill Says:

    Well we are not drafting more than 1 offensive lineman in this draft.

    Henderson, Satele, and Barnes may not start for any other team, but at least 2 of them will be starting for the Raiders next year.

  1239. Chris in NY Says:

    Marley,
    Pouncey in the 2nd round would be a good pick.

    JHill,
    In watching several Florida and Alabama games the past two years neither Haden nor McClain really jumped out to me as a special player. Maybe I missed something.

    Haden may be a good player, but I don’t think Haden is significantly better than some of the other CB options. More importantly, I’m happy with CJ and I think we just need to get someone who is better at covering quick slot WRs than Routt, who is better suited for the outside. Don’t see drafting Haden with all the money we have tied up in Nnamdi.

    McClain just doesn’t blow me away either. I think some of the other LB prospects like Weatherspoon from Missouri and Spikes from Florida are just as good or probably even better. McClain isn’t as good as any of the 3 USC LBs from last year. He’s not explosive. He plays too high. I think he benefitted from playing on a good defense and would be a disaster pick at No. 8. Someone who agrees with my take on McClain posted this “highlight” video on YouTube:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhG6bwopKTc

    I’d rather go out and get some big-time o-linemen or a stud d-lineman. Several of those guys are available in this year’s draft. If we were going to strictly go with best player available — given the consensus projections of the top-5 — I’d take Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State. But with so many 1st- and 2nd-year WRs already on the roster I don’t see that happening.

  1240. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Ricky,

    do you think we can just mix & match positions with the current scrub filled personnel on the roster and have a dominant o-line?

  1241. Richochet Says:

    Well, it’s set.

    Forever more, SB will be a two week gap.
    ProBowl will be week prior to SB.
    People are still hyped for football, and obviously it’s the only game on, albeit a fake game..and people turn on to get their fix.

    Once the SB is over, many people check out until the draft.

    Of course, some of you here check out after the Raiders first game…but that’s another story.

    “checking out” is not to be confused with pulling an OakGlenn, which is change your handle every other month.

  1242. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Henderson, Satele, and Barnes may not start for any other team, but at least 2 of them will be starting for the Raiders next year.

    ***

    Henderson & Satele. book it

    “super” mario was on an island this year.

    the result? 10 sacks allowed

    Henderson is Al’s boy & Samson is Tom’s boy. both have admitted as much publicly. they will start

  1243. jhill Says:

    Now you’re being silly! Who said anything about that being a dominant Oline? One step at a time man. We trying to go from being the WORST Oline in the league to jus being able to open up 1 or 2 running lanes per quarter. Dominant? LMFAO!

  1244. bcz24 Says:

    Trade DMAC for a new post…

  1245. Chris in NY Says:

    Right now I like Iupati at No. 8. Watch what he does to my guy from last year, Maualuga, in this quick highlight:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWdvfRhTruw

  1246. Richochet Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 11:25 am

    Ricky,

    do you think we can just mix & match positions with the current scrub filled personnel on the roster and have a dominant o-line?
    ========================
    Hell no…couldn’t field a dominant backup O-line.

    Yeah, there are only so many draft picks..but geez…round 2 last year? Round one previous year? obviously those two picks alone could have picked up two solid O linemen. Instead Al picks McF, when Bush and Fargas were onboard, (#6 in rushing for previous year) and picking Mitchell last year in the 2nd round?
    Two wasted opportunities.

  1247. 4evaRaider Says:

    ;}

  1248. jhill Says:

    So how do you feel about Walker at RG? Played well at LG filling in for Gallery.

  1249. bcz24 Says:

    We werent the worst oline in football… Buffalo had that honor, then again they had 7 or 8 guys from the Oline on IR. Worst strength and conditioning team in football = Buffalo Bills, perennially lead the league in players on IR

  1250. Dakota Says:

    Trade up and select Jimmy Clausen.

  1251. Richochet Says:

    # jhill Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 11:23 am

    Well we are not drafting more than 1 offensive lineman in this draft.

    Henderson, Satele, and Barnes may not start for any other team, but at least 2 of them will be starting for the Raiders next year.
    ===============================
    So goes the Oline, so goes the qb.

    So goes the QB? So goes the team.

    Vicious cycle.

  1252. Seymour Bush Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 7:56 am

    Man that Richochet sure has a lot of energy to burn.

    Does anyone even read those novels he is constantly tossing out?
    ======================================================

    No.

  1253. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jhill: guys like Cornell & Khalif made us one of the worst o-lines in the league. why is that so hard to understand?

    Tom Cable is terrible at evaluating talent and bringing in “his players”. He keeps going after reclamation projects to no avail. He’s about on par with the owner in my book

    if it looks like a turd, smells like a turd and tastes like a turd. it’s a friggin turd Tommy Boy! spit it out!

  1254. Seymour Bush Says:

    # jhill Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 11:31 am

    So how do you feel about Walker at RG? Played well at LG filling in for Gallery.
    =======================================================

    I don’t know if I would say he played well, I would rate him as adequate. There are a few things with the Raiders you can absolutely expect. A run and deep passing offense. To succeed with that, you HAVE to have a premier offensive line. We don’t.

  1255. jhill Says:

    I’ll have to defer Chris. Didn’t see Haden or McClain play one game this year. Just looking at the draft boards and most of them have these guys as top 10 talents.

    I with you on Iupati, but we seem to be in the minority. I’d also down with that C Marley is talking about in Rd 2.

    I do think we need a DT though. Warren in year 11? I think it may be time to bring him off the bench.

  1256. Richochet Says:

    # bcz24 Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 11:32 am

    We werent the worst oline in football… Buffalo had that honor, then again they had 7 or 8 guys from the Oline on IR. Worst strength and conditioning team in football = Buffalo Bills, perennially lead the league in players on IR
    —————————–
    Hmmmm…outdoor stadium? cold as freaking ice….practicing and playing in freezing temp?

    Can’t help, that’s for sure.

  1257. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 11:33 am

    vegas raider Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 7:56 am

    Man that Richochet sure has a lot of energy to burn.

    Does anyone even read those novels he is constantly tossing out?
    ======================================================

    No.
    ==============
    Awww..lol…aren’t you just precious, OakGlenn?

    You posted that way above..and now?

    Oakglenn: “Richochet??? RICKY???? LOOK AT ME..POST TO ME, RICHOCHET”.

    You’re so sappy, Oakglenn.
    In just so many ways.

  1258. RaiderRockstar Says:

    with the continued trend of bringing in FA OL that nobody else wants Russell & McFadden will continue to hold the “bust” label.

    fix the o-line and they’ve at least got a fighting chance.

    garbage o-line = no chance

  1259. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dakota Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 11:32 am
    Trade up and select Jimmy Clausen.”

    Homer pick. Maybe they should draft Golden Tate while they are at it! Hey maybe Milton Bradley is available too, oh wait he was traded to Seattle.

    Things got a bit testy in NY last night. Paul Pierce and Artest ignited a nice little rivalry. Maybe they will fight next time…

  1260. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dakota Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 11:32 am
    Trade up and select Jimmy Clausen.”

    Homer pick. Maybe they should draft Golden Tate while they are at it! Hey maybe Milton Bradley is available too, oh wait he was traded to Seattle.

    Things got a bit testy in NY last night. Paul Pierce and Artest ignited a nice little rivalry. Maybe they will fight next time…

  1261. Dakota Says:

    Tackle round 1, Center round 2, NT and LB round 3, Guards and kick returners for the rest of the draft.

  1262. jhill Says:

    Jhill: guys like Cornell & Khalif made us one of the worst o-lines in the league. why is that so hard to understand?

    ——————————————————-

    Green at OT was/is/will be a disaster. How many times do I have to say that?

    Barnes? I’d give him an incomplete. But I have a hard time taking you seriously talking about Langston Walker would be a better option.

  1263. Dakota Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 11:39 am
    with the continued trend of bringing in FA OL that nobody else wants Russell & McFadden will continue to hold the “bust” label.

    fix the o-line and they’ve at least got a fighting chance.

    garbage o-line = no chance
    +++++++

    I agree.

  1264. Seymour Bush Says:

    Chris in NY Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 11:23 am

    Marley,
    Pouncey in the 2nd round would be a good pick.

    JHill,
    In watching several Florida and Alabama games the past two years neither Haden nor McClain really jumped out to me as a special player. Maybe I missed something.

    Haden may be a good player, but I don’t think Haden is significantly better than some of the other CB options. More importantly, I’m happy with CJ and I think we just need to get someone who is better at covering quick slot WRs than Routt, who is better suited for the outside. Don’t see drafting Haden with all the money we have tied up in Nnamdi.
    ===================================================

    One of the major issues if not THE major issue with the Raiders is the big plays they give up on defense. When you are giving up HUGE runs, your secondary run support is suspect. That’s where Haden comes in. He is a very good run support corner.

  1265. Richochet Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 11:00 am

    Draft o-line! Draft LBs! Draft a NT!

    Fire Cable before it is too late!
    =================
    Too late?
    It’s Al.
    It’s never too late, or too early.

    It’s all in the timing.
    Whether it’s firing White Christmas Eve, or “officially hiring” Cable after the SB is over..it’s all about “bang for your buck”.

    This is going to be KO Tommy’s longest week of his career.
    If Al’s going to pull the plug, this is prime time..get the mileage for the week on firing Cable…then get the mileage after the SB on who Al’s going to hire.

    Pickings are slim, Tom, so you should be safe.
    But it’s Al..and you just never know, lol.

  1266. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 11:39 am
    with the continued trend of bringing in FA OL that nobody else wants Russell & McFadden will continue to hold the “bust” label.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Where do you guys get the absurd idea that the O-Line had ANYTHING to do with DMAC’s weaknesses? Fargas and Bush did significantly better behind the same line.

  1267. 4evaRaider Says:

    ERRFF 2 JWEERY come in jweery

  1268. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Barnes? I’d give him an incomplete. But I have a hard time taking you seriously talking about Langston Walker would be a better option.

    ***

    Barnes had no experience at RT until last year. a whopping 2 starts in which he flunked.

    Walker played RT in Oakland & Buffalo. questionable system fit though. i’ll give you that

  1269. RaiderRockstar Says:

    BSJ:

    any QB or RB would benefit from upgrades on the O-Line

    that should be priority #1 this offseason

  1270. 4evaRaider Says:

    Langston 2 big to try an keep up with a speed rusher.At RG tho,he a Road-Grader

  1271. Chris in NY Says:

    Seymour,
    Drafting a CB to fix the Run D? That’s a little too far outside the box for my thinking. Besides, I feel like both Nnamdi and CJ are pretty physical when it comes to stepping up and trying to tackle a runner on the edge. CJ has laid out more than one dude over the last season-and-a-half.

  1272. Chris in NY Says:

    I also like the idea of putting Langston at RG next season. Guy opened some enormous running lanes when he filled in for Gallery at LG.

  1273. Seymour Bush Says:

    # jhill Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 11:04 am

    Rams Redskins and Brown will all be looking for a QB.
    ===============================================

    Minnesota has to be a little nervous as well with Favre as their guy. He could retire any second. Carolina is about done with Delhomme, and Josh McCown is their backup. Does Arizona feel good about Leinert? They say they do. Good thing Alex Smith answered ALL the questions for the Whiners. Oh wait, he didn’t. Buffalo has tired of Trent Edwards, and let’s be honest, Kyle Orton is NOT the answer in Dungver. And how bout that there Matt Cassel? I don’t think he wowed anyone. Lot’s of potential jobs open.

  1274. Seymour Bush Says:

    Chris in NY Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 11:56 am

    Seymour,
    Drafting a CB to fix the Run D? That’s a little too far outside the box for my thinking.
    =======================================

    Chris if it was my choice, I would go Oline with the #8.

  1275. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Rip Torn = LOL.

  1276. Chris in NY Says:

    Seymour,
    What o-linemen do you like. Anyone in particular or just whatever it takes to fix it?

  1277. La Milicia Negra Says:

    are Jon and Jerry going for a record, most comments on a single post? i believe the record was around 1600..

  1278. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think Orton, Cassel & Leinart are safe for this year anyways … Shanny says RFA Jason Campbell is safe in Washington too

    I wonder if anybody would give Jake Delhomme, Alex Smith & Trent Edwards a shot?

    I think the Vikings will stick with Sage Rosenfels & RFA Tarvaris Jackson this season. that was the plan before Brett Favre made up his mind last offseason.

  1279. vegas raider Says:

    Chris in NY,

    I wasn’t trying to re-hash the BCS non BCS school nonsense, and I don’t discredit guys from smaller schools, except when it comes to the lineman. This weekend was the top competition Iaopti ever faced, and to no suprise, he struggled. Seems like a bigger learning curve for him than other lineman from top-flight schools. Can he overcome that, sure and plenty do, but the added “hurdle” if you will, is there.

    And there is a HUGE difference from Utah and TCU in the Mountain West than the WAC. The Mountain West may have close to 15 people drafted this year, I doubt the WAC gets any more than 5.

    We need a G badly, but has any guard ever been drafted in the top 10? If not, do you have confidence that Al would be the one G that deserved to be a top 10 pick? I don’t.

  1280. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 12:02 pm

    =======================================

    Chris if it was my choice, I would go Oline with the #8.

    ————————
    Wow Oakglenn.
    You came up with that all on your own?
    *pat on head*

  1281. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Derek Anderson & Brady Quinn are both under contract in Cleveland, but I’m sure either one or both players are available via trade.

    Chad Pennington might have 1 season left?

    will the Titans keep Kerry Collins now that Vince Young has matured?

    will the Eagles keep Vick at $5 million?

    David Carr, Daunte Culpepper, Shaun Hill, Chris Redman, Byron Leftwich & Marc Bulger could be available soon. Maybe even Matt Hasselbeck

  1282. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Al loves former 1st rounders.

    maybe Gradkowski & Frye will be replaced in the QB competition by Rex Grossman & Patrick Ramsey?

    then we’ll have a Russell/Losman/Grossman/Ramsey QB camp battle. haha

  1283. 4evaRaider Says:

    I will take langston Walker at RG over ANY O-lineman coming out

  1284. RaiderRockstar Says:

    free DuMarcus!

  1285. Chris in NY Says:

    I don’t know about that 5 WAC players drafted estimate Vegas. First, Boise did beat the MWC’s best in their bowl game. So while I agree the MWC is deeper, I don’t think the leagues are that far apart. Second, there are at least 3 offensive skill position players from Fresno State alone that will be drafted (Matthews, Miller and Ajirotutu). Iupati is a first rounder. The CB from Boise State is a borderline 1st rounder. And that’s just off the top of my head. Guaranteed there are some players from Nevada, Hawaii and other schools that will get drafted as well.

  1286. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Speculate all you want on who we SHOULD pick, but I’m telling ya AL is still watching that pick Taylor Mays made at the Sr. Bowl on a continuous loop, with a pallet load of drool towels at the ready…..

  1287. vegas raider Says:

    So I talked to my buddy yesterday who hangs with Jamarcus and has been to his house about a dozen times. I asked him a few questions about our good buddy.

    Said there is “talk” of him going to AZ to work-out, but he brought about a dozen guys with him, and let’s say there focus isn’t on training.

    It seems Jamarcus has purchased a G4 leasing service for the offseason, so he can take the crew on the country-wide party tour (starting in Vegas), and so he can go hang with his new best friend Jeezy in the ATL, easily and in class. I guess Russell has discussed some ownership potential with Magic City.

    I asked him what the odds are that Jamarcus will be in great shape for training camp. He laughed, said Zero, and said that Jamarcus won the lottery and quit his job.

    Fairly credible source, could be some slight exaggerations however, but the meat and potatoes is there. The mentality of hard-work is nowhere in the mix.

  1288. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Chris in NY Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    Seymour,
    What o-linemen do you like. Anyone in particular or just whatever it takes to fix it?
    ========================================================

    Chris one thing that I think most fans don’t quite get is Pro organizations know what kind of crop of talent is available probably 5 YEARS in advance. In other words the reason we might have skipped on Olineman last year is because the Raiders knew four years ago that this years crop would be good. And good it is! That being said, if Russell Okung is available at #8, you have to take him. That guy could block out the sun. That solves that problem for the next 10 years. Bruce Campbell I also really like. Same with Bryan Bulaga. Further down the draft I thought that kid Vladamir Duccase looked VERY good. Same with Ciron Black. Black looked to me to be a very good LT that might last til the 3rd or 4th.
    On the Interior of the line, Mike Pouncey from Florida gets my vote at the top of the 2nd. Two other guys I thought played very well were Mike Johnson from Alabama and John Jerry from Ole Miss who could be 3-4th round guys. John Jerry is Peria Jerry’s brother, who’s best friend is Mike Oher, so they have a bit of comraderie and history of success.

  1289. vegas raider Says:

    Chris,

    Boise beat TCU this year, TCU beat them last year. Fresno did lose to Wyoming, which was like the 5th best team in the MWC. Point is, MWC, like you said, is much deeper.

    I was doing the draft numbers off my head, so I could be off by a few. But the MWC will have more people drafted than WAC, and I bet they double them in draft picks.

    I think the MWC might have been better than the Pac-10 this past year, and I am a Pac-10 homer.

  1290. RaiderRockstar Says:

    thanks for the info Vegas.

    can’t say i’m surprised (if that’s true)

    I told everybody here that Russell would cost Cable, Tollner & Hackett their jobs.

    I still stand by that.

    Might even add Hue Jackson to the list. we’ll see how OTA’s, camp & preseason goes first.

    Al Davis is loyal to players – not coaches.

  1291. Dakota Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 11:46 am
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 11:39 am
    with the continued trend of bringing in FA OL that nobody else wants Russell & McFadden will continue to hold the “bust” label.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
    Where do you guys get the absurd idea that the O-Line had ANYTHING to do with DMAC’s weaknesses? Fargas and Bush did significantly better behind the same line.
    __________________

    As Joe Wilson would say….YOU LIE!

    lol

    Wasn’t Gallery, our best o-linemen injured at the beginning of the year and he didn’t come back until McFadden was injured? And didn’t Fargas get more runs once Garbagekowski took over for JaWalrus? Don’t you think decent QB play (for us) and Gallery coming back made a difference?

    In 2008 when the players played behind the same line, McFadden averaged 4.4 ypc and had 4 TDs compared to Fargas’ 3.9 ypc and 1 TD.

    You will pay for your insolence!

  1292. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    You will pay for your insolence!

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    I may be insolent, but DMAC is a fumbler. Try and blame that on someone other than DMAC, Dakota Joe.

  1293. Dakota Says:

    McFadden only fumbled because Russell’s greasy hands touched the ball on the snap.

  1294. vegas raider Says:

    And for the record my buddy LOVES Jamarcus. Says he is the coolest dude, gets along with everybody, kind of funny, not full of himself at all, polite to everybody (true southerner) and the proverbial jolly fat guy when wasted.

    Just a kid. He was telling how he has this massive house, with empty rooms and nowhere near enough furniture. He brings the fellas over, and they don’t have enough furniture in the kitchen, so these guys are just massive dudes (and millionaires), LAYING ON THE KITCHEN FLOOR, playing dice for 5K a pop, rotating in getting tatted.

    The guy is enjoying life and as long as he stays on the right side of the law, I really can’t hate on him. I just don’t want him as the QB of my favorite team.

  1295. RaiderRockstar Says:

    McFadden only fumbled because Russell’s greasy hands touched the ball on the snap.

    ***

    Agreed.

    walrus blubber is very slick.

    that could be a reason DHB has trouble catching the ball as well.

  1296. RaiderRockstar Says:

    they don’t have enough furniture in the kitchen

    ***

    you mean like a kitchen table? bar stools? LOL

    our franchise QB is laying on the floor playing dice and getting tatted while 3rd string QB’s like Frye & Gradkowski are at the facility working out and studying film.

    no wonder King Elexis is getting outplayed by guys that couldn’t even crack another team’s 53 man roster… they put the work in!

  1297. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Vegas, who is your source? DMunoz 26?

  1298. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I feel sorry for Hue Jackson. This OC stint won’t be any more successful than those he had in Washington or Atlanta if he’s saddled with the walrus as starting qb

    FREE WILLY!

  1299. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Rex Ryan, making an “obscene” gesture at an MMA event? An MMA event? Have you seen the people who go to these? If anything, he brought a little class to the place.

  1300. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Hopefully Hue Jackson is like Samuel Jackson. He will lay down the law for Jamarcus.

  1301. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 12:54 pm
    McFadden only fumbled because Russell’s greasy hands touched the ball on the snap.

    ***

    Agreed.

    walrus blubber is very slick.

    that could be a reason DHB has trouble catching the ball as well.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Trade DMAC for some industrial-strength degreaser!

  1302. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Al Davis isn’t loyal to his players, either. He’s loyal to certain players. And, most of them suck.

  1303. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    If Al Davis really were loyal to his players, like his worshipers think he is, we’d be a better team. He’d listen to his players more. He’d listen to his good players, like Sapp and Gannon.

  1304. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Jerry Jones is more loyal to his players than Davis is. Davis is just past his time. He doesn’t know what he’s doing. It’s entertaining to watch you guys mythologize him, though, and try to spin his demented behavior into some sort of genius. The results throw a monkey wrench into your whole agenda.

  1305. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Al Davis isn’t loyal to his players, either. He’s loyal to certain players. And, most of them suck.

    ***

    true enough.

    he kept Porter over Shell.

    then let go of Moss at Kiffin’s request.

    wow. could Al have been more wrong? haha

  1306. vegas raider Says:

    I don’t understand on why Al insists on still being so involved at his age.

    He should be smart enough to know, that if he were to let everybody else do all the work, with his resume, he can still take all the credit for any success. If the team stinks, blame it on them, and change management structure.

    Instead he just blames the coaches that he actually hired, usually on his sole recommendation, in some type of weird tail chasing the dog scenario.

  1307. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Moss couldn’t do anything here anyway. The problems Kiffin INHERITED couldn’t be fixed with one player. Kiffin had to change the entire culture here and Moss just had to go. Anyhow, Davis is not loyal to players. If he were, he would listen to his players. How loyal was Davis to his players when he changed the entire defensive gameplan that the players wanted, the incident Sapp talked about? Real players’ owner… yeh. Give me a break.

  1308. Richochet Says:

    You can only lay down the law to someone when they either care, or there is a consequence.

    Kiffin called out JR for being vertically challenged. As did Cable.
    JR’s response?
    “I feel good with where I’m at. I know I’m the future. Pass the chips”

  1309. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    The truth is, Vegas, Al really won’t get credit for the success. It’s gotten to the point now where the media, and fans in general, will always credit someone underneath Al if the Raiders start to win. That’s what happens when you suck for 7 straight years. That’s what happened with Gruden…Al basically just disappeared into irrelevancy. That’s why Al got rid of him. That’s the sole reason.

  1310. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hopefully Hue Jackson is like Samuel Jackson. He will lay down the law for Jamarcus.

    ***

    Albert, when is the last time a coach in Oakland had the authority to “lay down the law” to a player?

    Players just go straight over the HC’s head and walk into Al’s office for a chat.

    Davis doesn’t care about work ethic, conditioning, what players do in the offseason or even off the field during the regular season. doesn’t believe in chemistry. puts a high premium on speed. you can teach football, but you can’t teach speed. LOL

    I can see Hue walking into Al’s office right now.

    Jackson: AL! JaMarcus missed our last meeting and it’s gameday. where is he?

    Davis: who cares? did we win? how many TD’s did he throw?

    Jackson: the game hasn’t been played yet. can we roll with another QB?

    Davis: if he’s here for the coin flip, he’s in. I don’t care if he’s drunk. If he’s here, he’ll play. We need him to throw the ball downfield.

  1311. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    When Gruden said, “If me and Rich can turn this place around, it will be our legacy”. He left one name out. And that’s why he’s gone.

  1312. vegas raider Says:

    I just can’t believe Al LET it get to this point. Because your right, if Al hires some young sharp guy to be a GM and they start to win, you know who is going to get the credit. It won’t be the 80 year old guy.

  1313. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    For those of you who think Jackson will lay down the law: The last coach Al hired to lay down the law was Art Shell. So, yeh, it might happen…

  1314. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Jackson will lay down the law…. LOL. How naive.

  1315. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Hue Jackson: Jamarcus, you best get yo sorry ass over her, you motha fuka!

  1316. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    The Raiders only win when they do everything the opposite of how Al Davis would do it. Notice that?

  1317. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You’re naive, Albert. It’s not going to go down like that.

  1318. Lucifer-666 Says:

    awww the off season where our board periodically turns into a political debate the draft is the other topic of conversation while Jerry takes a vacation and lets the blog get close to 1,500 posts!

  1319. Richochet Says:

    Al thinks he can buy loyalty and performance.
    In Al’s mind, once he signs the check, he believes the player should now give him everything, above and beyond. to perform as they never have before, because he’s “AL”.

    No doubt he has the clips blown up, and on his wall, on those players that gave “one more for the geezer”, believing that it was him, and him alone, that willed them to step up and perform.

    He still lives in that little fantasy..throwing stupid money, believing Hall and Aso would now be the most feared tandem in the league, that Javon would magically repair his mangled knee and be an All Star, that Kwame would morph from the worst to first..all because it’s “The Al”.

    And when the above didn’t do as expected? Hall…cut during season…Javon mysteriously benched.
    Al doesn’t think he overpaid. He believes they under-performed.

    The cycle continues…

  1320. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I’m surprised at you MR. Calling me naive? You should know better than that.

  1321. DKnight007 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 1:23 pm
    The Raiders only win when they do everything the opposite of how Al Davis would do it. Notice that?

    ^^^^^^^^^
    That’s exactly what happens……

  1322. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    “Jamarcus, you best get yo sorry ass over here, you mutha ****”

    “No. I think I’m going to relax on the bench and eat chips”

    “I said get over here, mutha ***.”

    “No”

    “Now!”

    “No”

    “What’s the problem here, guys?”

    “Jackson’s yelling at me, Al, and I don’t like it”

    “You’re fired, Jackson”

  1323. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Albert if you think Jackson’s going to motivate Russell by basically being Al’s house negro, it’s not going to happen. He wouldn’t the the first of his kind to try to “lay down the law” on JaMarcus. JaMarcus knows who calls the shots in Oakland, and it aint this offensive coordinator Al just hired. What your hoping will happen only works on people form the suburbs. Ryan Leaf could have used that.

  1324. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Hue Jackson probably went into Al Davis’ office and told it like it is, and how its going to be.

  1325. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Russell will laugh at Jackson if he yells at him. What will Jackson do about it? If Jackson really did try to “put his foot up Russell’s a**”, as you guys put it, Russell and his crew would wait for him in the parking lot and jump him.

  1326. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Then Jackson was putting Davis on to get a job. Jackson knows better than to disrespect Russell. It will only go bad.

  1327. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Vegas, is this your friend whose been hanging out with Russel: http://www.freewebs.com/gube_site/fat-black-guy_sm.jpg

  1328. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    And, none of the players would back Jackson up if he got into it with Russell and his friends. An NFL player can get shot. They know the order. They’d stay out of it, and just play mums the word with the press.

  1329. Richochet Says:

    Why does anyone assume Hue is going to magically convert JR, or the offense?

    In his two stints with Wa and At Hue was 4-12, and 5-11.

    What part of that makes many of you think this hire is going to light a fire under anyone’s ass?
    He’ll come in, and do his job.
    Some players will respond. Some won’t. Some will want to get better. Some could care less.
    Hell, I suspect Hue will do what he SHOULD DO, and what all coaches should do..which is expect players to do as they’re trained.
    And then spend your energy where it gets the best results.
    Given the chance, Grad will leap frog past JR, and Hue will easily recognize that.
    Cable already knows that.
    And by the end of training camp, I suspect even Al will.

  1330. The Stork Says:

    From Rotoworld.com

    Raiders CB Nnamdi Asomugha said at the Pro Bowl that he wants to play for the Jets and has discussed the idea with coach Rex Ryan.

    This would constitute tampering. “Me and (Darrelle) Revis have been talking to Rex to try to do something,” Asomugha said. “You may see us in the future. There’s a little bit of talk going on.” Asomugha signed the richest contract for a defensive player in NFL history last year and isn’t going anywhere. Ryan may still have to answer to the league about the two’s alleged “talks.”

  1331. jhill Says:

    The 3rd string QB is the least of our concerns right now. I think we need to worry about the 1st string Oline, Dline, CB, and MLB!

  1332. Richochet Says:

    Hey, RMR..weren’t you in an exchange with Br ian, where he was talking about him using H? Down south, LA area?

  1333. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Jackson isn’t going to do anything to JaMarcus. Might do some “HNIC” type of yelling at Russell, where Russell will just laugh at him. Think Russell hasn’t seen this before? Al probably tried to get Willie Brown to do the same thing to Russell last year. If Al wants to motivate Russell he should either threaten to cut him, or just build a good team around him and bring in a real head coach, and create an environment where anything less than success if failure. At the end of the day, why should Russell, or anyone for that matter, try hard in Oakland? What’s the reward? Losing. Because you’re in a joke of a system. Al wants to save face with the drafting of Russell so his next desperate move is to bring in a black coach to yell at him? Wrong route. This will blow up in Al’s face, and could result in a violent altercation.

  1334. RaiderRockstar Says:

    MR,

    I actually liked the rehire of Art Shell and the reintroduction to discipline. His biggest mistake was the staff he brought along with him.

    Tom Walsh as OC/play caller?

    Slater & Eatman as dual OL coaches?

    Walsh is back flippin pancakes

    Slater is now an assistant offensive line coach for Saddleback Community College

    Eatman works for all american football camps

  1335. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Stork, it is also on ESPN.com, and Nnamdi also said that it could be that Revis comes to the Raiders. Sounds like a joke anyway. Just two guys having fun.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/9987/afc-pro-bowl-observations

  1336. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    What’s your point, Richochet?

  1337. jhill Says:

    or just build a good team around him and bring in a real head coach, and create an environment where anything less than success if failure.

    ——————————————————-

    I like this alternative, lol!

  1338. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Rockster, quit it. Shell was brought in to bring back the discipline. Didn’t happen.

  1339. Lucifer-666 Says:

    Jhill

    #1331 that is the most sensible post I have read all day!!!

  1340. Richochet Says:

    Point, RMR, is last night bree denied his involvement, in everything except for toting and drinking, and I recall your guys exchange, indicating otherwise.

    Not saying he still does, just recall your two banter.

  1341. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Wow. All of these news stories about the economy, and unemployment. When minorities were unemployed, we told them it was their fault for not having skills or being uneducated. Now white people are unemployed, and suddenly it’s Obama’s fault.

  1342. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    OK, no point then, Richochet? LOL.

  1343. jhill Says:

    Now white people are unemployed, and suddenly it’s Obama’s fault.

    ——————————————————-

    LMFAO!

  1344. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Jerry Porter is on Rome right now just dissing the shyt out of the Dolphins. Rome laid a little bait and caught a whale. He’s still going. He’s demanding a trade.

  1345. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Joey Porter, Not Jerry. And, my goodness, I was actually thinking about not making that mistake as I was typing it. Dee Dee Derrr

  1346. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Art Shell would have faired much better with Hackett, Tollner, Knapp, Jackson or even John Shoop (give him a full offseason) as Offensive Coordinator

    and a OL coach like Aaron Kromer, Jim Colletto, Tom Cable or Jim Michalczik …

  1347. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Imagine if Obama told all of these unemployed white people what white people have been saying throughout history to unemployed black people, to get an education and get skills, and stop whining?

  1348. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    OMG! Revis is coming to the Raiders and none of you guys care!!! WTF

  1349. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Rockstar, let it go. Shell’s hiring was a joke. The whole concept was a joke. It’s proof Al’s living in another time. Al really thought Shell would motivate his black players, same retarded concept he’s using with Jackson right now.

  1350. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Revis coming to the Raiders…and the laughs keep on coming today.

  1351. jhill Says:

    With a lot of teams being frugal in anticipation of what might happen with the lockout, we might be able to get a few really good free agents if Al is willing to spend some dough this offseason. With the top 8 teams out of the mix, and other teams not wanting to spend $ …. just saying!

  1352. Lucifer-666 Says:

    1347 LMFAO

    Nice one MR

  1353. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Joey Porter demanding a trade?

    Jason Taylor & Jason Ferguson are both UFA’s too. they’ll need help on defense

    ***

    trade offer: Javon Walker & Gerard Warren for Porter

    or Slade Norris, William Joseph and a 4th rounder :)

  1354. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I think now that Jackson is on board, Walker will finally have his break out year.

  1355. vegas raider Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 1:54 pm
    Imagine if Obama told all of these unemployed white people what white people have been saying throughout history to unemployed black people, to get an education and get skills, and stop whining?

    ***********************************

    I wish he would say this!!!!

    I lost my job in the middle of 2009, right in the heart of it. I found a new gig, used the time off to gain another license, and even though it was a lateral at best move, I’m on the payroll.

    Reduce unemployment benefits, and put in subsidies to attend community college and increase the Pelle Grant. That’s the right thing to do longterm, but we need a stimulus because we need to get re-elected.

  1356. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    The good thing about the politics of our day is that Republicans are finally accepting the fact that the job market plays a role in poverty. Of course, they don’t really believe that, they really think people in the unemployment lines are bums. They’re just doing it to spite Obama. But we’ve got them on the right page, at least. That’s change. Count it.

  1357. Richochet Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    Rockstar, let it go. Shell’s hiring was a joke. The whole concept was a joke. It’s proof Al’s living in another time. Al really thought Shell would motivate his black players, same retarded concept he’s using with Jackson right now.
    =================================
    WTF?
    Why keep running the race BS?
    I guess, using that analogy, he hired Kiffin to motivate the white players?
    See how lame that sounds?

  1358. DKnight007 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 1:48 pm
    Wow. All of these news stories about the economy, and unemployment. When minorities were unemployed, we told them it was their fault for not having skills or being uneducated. Now white people are unemployed, and suddenly it’s Obama’s fault.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Yep!

    It’s all about the Bildeberger Consipracy. The government within the government thats tries to control things in this country and around the world.

  1359. Richochet Says:

    Why don’t you take the political BS to a political board?
    NO political BS for hours..and you show up and right away and start up with it?

    Same old rehashed crap..

  1360. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Richochet, I’m basing the race assumption on the comments in here. When Kiffin was hired, nobody was suggesting that he was hired to motivate the white players. But people are in here suggesting that Davis hired Jackson because he’s black, to motivate Russell. I’m responding to them. Pay attention, moron.

  1361. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Richochet, Jerry doesn’t seem to care about football. Why should we?

  1362. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Richochet, why don’t you make me take my comments to a political board? Who in the F died and made you moderator? If you dont’ like my comments, scroll on.

  1363. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I think Richochet’s mad because I’m taking attention away from him and his fight with Oakglenn. And, my god, talking about rehashing dead arguments. He and Oakglenn have been arguing over the same topic for 3 months now. What an idiot!

  1364. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jackson will probably motivate Russell the same way that Shell motivated Porter if Jackson is a disciplinarian …

    WR Jerry Porter was been suspended by head coach Art Shell for four games for conduct detrimental to the team (reduced to 2 games by the NFLPA)

  1365. jhill Says:

    So no more draft activties until the combine? Can teams have guys in for workouts now?

  1366. DKnight007 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 2:00 pm
    The good thing about the politics of our day is that Republicans are finally accepting the fact that the job market plays a role in poverty. Of course, they don’t really believe that, they really think people in the unemployment lines are bums. They’re just doing it to spite Obama. But we’ve got them on the right page, at least. That’s change. Count it.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Yep….poor little evil greedy Republicans and their GOP can’t make as much money as they want to.

    Poor little babies huh?

    Unreal….

  1367. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Rockstar, just get it through your head..Jackson is not going to motivate Russell, rather he’s a disciplinarian or a pacifist. Russell will laugh at him, either way. The only person who’s going to motivate Russell is Dr. Frankenstein himself, who created him.

  1368. jhill Says:

    Over/Under on how many games it takes mini Garcia to get hurt next year?

    Will Mini Garcia beat out Losman?

  1369. Dakota Says:

    Bear hire Martz.

  1370. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Obama’s shifting our government to taking a concern for unemployment, and accepting that as a pivotal reason for poverty and other ills. Of course, Republicans are only focusing on unemployment to spite Obama, but the result is that they’re concerned about it, and we now have a government more concerned with poverty than any government we’ve had probably since the New Deal. Huge. Talk about swinging things the other way from the Reagan era, where the belief was that if you’re unemployed, it’s your fault.

  1371. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The only person who’s going to motivate Russell is Dr. Frankenstein himself, who created him.

    ***

    LOL

    I’ve created a monsta!

  1372. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Albert, I’ve gotta say that link you posted to the picture of the overweight black fella was HILARIOUS!

    I totally get it – the joke is Jamarcus would be hanging out with a goofy overweight loser, much like himself, right? Man, that’s comedy gold!

    And the fact the fat guy had his tongue sticking out was like the cherry on the sundae of hilarity. Whenever I see an overweight individual stick his tongue out I’m instantly in stitches.

    Anyway, keep up the great work and I’m looking forward to your next successful foray into the comedy field with great anticipation!

    Baja Rules!

  1373. chucka1122 Says:

    If Jabust and DHB start next year the attendance at the Raiders games will be worse than it was this year. I cannot believe the organization and fans think these guys can play in the NFL. THESE PLAYERS ARE BRUTAL!!! The Raiders need to address the 0-line and D-line in the draft and free agency. Knowing what Al likes, I would not be surprised to see the Raiders draft a corner in the first round and another crappy wr in the second. I just hope the front office can get it right this year. For those of you who defend DHB, the guy cannot catch. If you watch any old film on the guy he makes it look so difficult to catch a football.

    0-line and D-line are the biggest needs…

  1374. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Martz + Cutler = dysfunction

    I wish dungver would have hired Martz as OC while Cutler was there instead.

  1375. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    When presidential elections are about the economy, Democrats always win. As much as Republicans try to bash Obama over the economy, as long as they’re talking about the economy, it helps Obama’s reelection.

  1376. RaiderRockstar Says:

    new post barack worshippers!

  1377. Richochet Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    Richochet, I’m basing the race assumption on the comments in here. When Kiffin was hired, nobody was suggesting that he was hired to motivate the white players. But people are in here suggesting that Davis hired Jackson because he’s black, to motivate Russell. I’m responding to them. Pay attention, moron.
    ======================
    Bull****..YOUR ignorant ass made the following comment:
    “The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    Rockstar, let it go. Shell’s hiring was a joke. The whole concept was a joke. It’s proof Al’s living in another time. Al really thought Shell would motivate his black players, same retarded concept he’s using with Jackson right now.”
    ==========================
    Don’t back track like the little beyotch you are, and say it applies to something someone said in the past..that YOU’RE RESPONDING TO THEM..YOUR RACIST ASS SAID IT.

    Being stupid is one thing. No reason to keep perfecting it.

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