Franchise, transition numbers
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, January 29th, 2010 at 10:35 am in Oakland Raiders.
The Newark Star-Ledger posted this year’s transition and franchise tag numbers, and it’s safe to assume the Raiders most prominent free agents won’t be happy to if they’re tagged.
Richard Seymour, if he doesn’t sign a longterm deal, would earn $12.398 under the franchise tag as a defensive end. Place kicker Sebastian Janikowski would be due $2.814 million under the franchise tag as a kicker.
If the Raiders act as they did last season, it won’t matter. They brought home both cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha and punter Shane Lechler with the richest contracts ever at their respective positions.
Teams may begin designated franchise and transition players starting Feb. 11 and have until Feb. 25 to do so.
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January 29th, 2010 at 10:38 am
Not bad for one year’s work.
January 29th, 2010 at 10:39 am
would of used all that money on depth than to give a grip to those 2 players last year.
January 29th, 2010 at 10:40 am
I had no desire to be first anyway.
January 29th, 2010 at 10:42 am
My brothers from the south?…lol…I dont consider them my brothers,..nor do I consider you one,..quit being such a wimp….if they come here legally, fine, Im all for it,..if they come here illegally, for welfare and crime, shoot to kill, let the coyotes eat them.
January 29th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Bob,
I posted something for you in the prev post.
January 29th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Dakota,
Ngata didn’t start one game at DT last year. He is a 3-4 DE.
The guy “clogging the middle” to enable Ray Lewis to be great, LMAO, is Kelly Gregg who is probably better than Ngata, and a 6th round pick.
January 29th, 2010 at 10:43 am
vegas raider Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 10:36 am
If a great space eating NT is the key to the D, why is the biggest space-eater, Mt. Cody, going to be lucky to be in the top 50?
Space eaters like Sam Adams and Ted Washington, each played on 5 or 6 teams.
NT are replaceable. Hall of Fame LB’s are not.
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Cody’s motor is being questioned. And guys like Sam Adams and Ted Washington were always part of a very good defense, especially against the run. NTs are simply underappreciated. I’d take a good run-stuffing, gap opening NT over a glorified, QB killa, three tech DT like Sapp every day of the week.
January 29th, 2010 at 10:44 am
Tylenol is bad for the liver Bob.
January 29th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Are Grady Jackson or Rod Coleman available? If so, trade DMAC for either.
January 29th, 2010 at 10:46 am
anyone besides the DT’s we currently have.
January 29th, 2010 at 10:47 am
anyone besides the owner we currently have.
January 29th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Ricky Bobby,
It’s ok! Daddy can’t hurt you anymore. you don’t have to be so angry.
January 29th, 2010 at 10:48 am
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 10:36 am
Racho:
So’s who’s gettin’ off on cut’n’pasting their own comments now?
Cable’s the man baby!
Enjoy it.
Savor it.
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Coward.
Tail between legs coward, lol…as I guaranteed.
YOU cut and paste YOUR OWN COMMENT..with NO REPLIES..that you just posted shortly before..stupidly thinking “oh gosh..guess no one saw it”.
Then you stupidly laugh at a comment I pasted that YOU MADE, believing I made it..another indication you’re an idiot.
and now?
You meekly view my slap down, and just accept the fact you’re inept.
Hey..I don’t blame you..that stupid list got laughed at by many. I would tuck tail too, if I were you.
January 29th, 2010 at 10:48 am
So what if Ngata is playing DE? He played NT for the Ravens in previous years and they now feel that having Ngata and Gregg on the field is better. So what? Doesn’t change the point that Ngata is still a great NT. Sapp playing DE didn’t mean he was no longer a DT.
January 29th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Ricky Bobby,
When you come to SD, I’ll show you some anger Mgmt skills.
When ever you talk with anger, I will b!t$h slap you. lol
January 29th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Are Grady Jackson or Rod Coleman available?
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Rod Coleman is. Saints waived him on 8/31 and he never latched on with another team
Grady Jackson plays for the Lions
January 29th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Ngata hasn’t played much DT the last few years.
Kelly Gregg is the guy in the middle, and has been for years.
January 29th, 2010 at 10:54 am
# Raider O Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Good Morning Bob.
So You want to shoot our brothers from the south, that come here and do jobs most people here don’t want to do, they do it for cheap, and they don’t demand much.
They do that to support families, and some pay taxes on that income, and They spend that money here.
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“some pay taxes on that income”??
Uh..most don’t. Most claim the maximum deductions, knowing they’re not going to file taxes at the end of the year anyway.
Most get the free schooling, and medical, without contributing, driving up our taxes.
Most send large part of the money back to Mexico, spending it there.
And “brothers” from the south?
Might be your brother..sure as hell isn’t mine.
they don’t view YOU AS THEIR BROTHER..unless, of course, you’re from there.
January 29th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Ricky,
would you please post that Barack joke I said 2 weeks ago?
I don’t want anybody to forget how RACIST I am. It’s my only claim to fame on this blog.
Thanks.
Management
January 29th, 2010 at 10:57 am
Gregg missed the 2008 season, but other than that he has started every game but 2 in the last 7 years at NT for the Ravens.
He is the guy you should be singing his praises.
January 29th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Everyone didn’t see potential in Russell.
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you weren’t here posting on this blog last offseason when Bob made those comments about JaMarcus so don’t pretend like you were anti-russell before camp started.
or were you trolling under a different nick back then?
January 29th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Vegas, you are right about Gregg. Why the hell is Ngata always referred to as the NT?
WTF?
January 29th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Rich,
What about social resposibility? Why not consider them brothers? Why not consider people from the north as our brothers?
That’s a good start. For now.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Because he is 320 lbs I guess.
I would love Ngata, by all means. Just some people on here are ready to annoint him a Hall of Famer, and he isn’t even a Pro Bowler.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Kelly Gregg is the guy in the middle, and has been for years
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same with Casey Hampton in Pittsburgh. great player
very underrated
NT Jamal Williams gets all the love in the AFC and now Wilfork too
used to be “fat albert” haynesworth before he signed with the skins
January 29th, 2010 at 11:03 am
It’s our RACIST (according to some posters) brother from Podunk. lol
Good morning RR.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:04 am
O,…those mother f`krs from the south you want to help so much, will knife you in the back for your purse.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:04 am
Just some people on here are ready to annoint him a Hall of Famer, and he isn’t even a Pro Bowler.
Slight exageration,eh.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Ngata aside, I would still take a good NT over a MLB every time.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:06 am
good morning O!
how have you been?
still getting an edumacation in sandy eggo?
how happy were you when the weak jets crushed the dolts in playoff game #1?
January 29th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Slightly…….
Hey got to drive the point home. Debate club 101, lol
January 29th, 2010 at 11:06 am
If Ngata were a DT he would be a 3 technique. He is a better version of Tommy Kelly, what TK would be if he actually put out maximum effort.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:07 am
nice.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Dakota Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Ngata aside, I would still take a good NT over a MLB every time.
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Really? Even over a HOF like Lewis?
January 29th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Ngata played DT at oregon which is probably why so many people assume he is a DT now.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:10 am
anybody got a list of UFA DT’s & MLB’s ???
January 29th, 2010 at 11:10 am
It would have to be a very good NT, but yes I would. Put most MLB behind a good NT and they will look good.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:11 am
I heard they’re changing the the name of the Pro Bowl to the Semi-Pro Bowl this season.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:11 am
my whole point of this NT, DT talk is that if we would draft mcclain without giving him help upfront it would be a waste, you’d get all these o-lineman getting to the second level and repeating the poor run d we got.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Dakota,
so would you rather Al go after Tank Johnson or Odell Thurman this offseason?
January 29th, 2010 at 11:13 am
My take Morrison sucks, McClain is a bad ass.
For McClain to reach his maximum potential, yes he needs a good D-line.
But an improvement is an improvement, and McClain would be a huge improvement over Morrison
January 29th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 10:44 am
Tylenol is bad for the liver Bob.
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It really is. My doctor just told me that 3 days ago!
Had a high count on my liver (236), 60 is normal 1000+ is bad!
January 29th, 2010 at 11:14 am
It would have to be a very good NT, but yes I would. Put most MLB behind a good NT and they will look good.
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Agreed. Who plays MLB for the Vikes? Steelers MLB is known more for blitzing and sacking that run stopping.. Good DT can make a SS look good also..
January 29th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Make no mistake if Ray Lewis were here TK and William Joseph and Warren would not be the sad sacks of sht that they are. Ray Lewis makes average players better, he is the player that the best players ask for help. He holds people accountable, that defense lost a D coord that transformed his next unit into the tops in the league and still didn’t miss a beat…..that’s the Lewis effect.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:15 am
besides taking bad angles and missing open-field tackles,morrison, oh nevermind, enough said.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:15 am
The actual game of the ProBowl is stupid, but the initial vote and teams is pretty indictive of what’s accurate.
50% of the vote is current players. Straight from the horses mouth, so to speak.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:16 am
Rockstar,
FA MLB:
1. DeMeco Ryans
2. Barrett Ruud
3. Kirk Morrison
4. Gary Brackett
5. D’Qwell Jackson
6. Stephen Tulloch
7. Larry Foote
8. Ahmad Brooks
9. Omar Gaither
10.Corey Mays
January 29th, 2010 at 11:16 am
so who are the good DT’s coming out in the draft?
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Terrence Cody & Brian Price?
January 29th, 2010 at 11:18 am
need that qb on the defensive side of the ball, shoot we need one on offense too.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:18 am
hey you guys im playing fantasy bball right now and Im pondering about this trade its a good deal but I wat to get a few opinions from others before I make a decision. Im getting my a al on right now. Would you trade lebron for chris paul stephen jackson and corey magette??
January 29th, 2010 at 11:18 am
Listen people!!!
Yes we can all agree that we need a MLB and OL help and could use a good DL as well in the upcoming draft….but let reality set in and here is what to expect:
1 round fastest 40 time
2 round CB
3 round WR
4 round Safety
So while I agree with you all it’s nice to sit here and dream about a great MLB in the draft…its not a reality!
January 29th, 2010 at 11:20 am
FA DT:
1. Vince Wilfork
2. Casey Hampton
3. Ryan Pickett
4. Fred Robbins
5. Barry Coefield
6. Aubrayo Franklin
7. Tony Brown
8. Tank Johnson
9. Cory Redding
10.Justin Bannan
#4 and #5 played in NYG with our new defensive line coach.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:20 am
thanks El Tato.
I’d be interested in DeMeco Ryans, but he’s restricted
they’ll slap a tender offer on him if they can’t work out a long term deal. then if a team offers him a contract they’ll have the option to match any offer (which I’m sure they will if the year stays uncapped)
January 29th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Sounds like this guy is rising pretty fast.. It’d be better if he stayed at 2nd round value so we had a shot at him..
“Tennessee’s Dan Williams has been the most impressive nose tackle in Senior Bowl practices, according to the Palm Beach Post.
Williams has the prototypical fire hydrant build with a stout lower body. He’s outplayed Alabama’s Terrence Cody, who showed up at a shocking 370 pounds. Williams could be moving into the late-first round with this week’s showing.
Source: Palm Beach Post”
January 29th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Maualuga seemed to have a good year with only Tank Johnson in front of him….why not sign Tank. McClain is a huge step above Morrisson in terms of skill and intangibles, he is the type if player that could lift a unit. Take him in the first, Alualu (sp) in the second, and Ciron Black or Vlad Ducasse in the 3rd.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Good news for Norco Bob and Ray Mauaualauaualauauaga:
More Could Be Better When It Comes To Attending AA Meetings
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster_shots/2010/01/more-could-be-better-when-it-comes-to-attending-aa-meetings.html
January 29th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Gabe Watson is a FA too, he is 6′4” 330 pounds with starting experience in Arizona
January 29th, 2010 at 11:23 am
For some reason..Lucifer is making sense.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Just move Seymour inside to replace Warren, and play Shaughnessy outside.
Seymour played DT in College and the first 2 years in New England when they played 4-3 defense.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:25 am
This guy has Al’s name written all over him..
“Clemson WR Jacoby Ford says he can guarantee he will run in the 4.2s at February’s Scouting Combine.
Sounds like Ford is gunning for Chris Johnson’s record. “I can guarantee a 4.2,” said the NCAA track star, who ran a 4.126 in high school. “Yes, sir. It’s just running.” The knock on Ford entering the Senior Bowl was that he doesn’t have as much speed in pads. But he’s been one of the top risers this week.
Source: National Football Post”
January 29th, 2010 at 11:25 am
I can’t believe Wilfork & Hampton are both UFA’s.
I think Hampton will re-sign with the Steelers in hopes to win another ring.
Wilfork (like Haynesworth) goes to the highest bidder!
January 29th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Hello, my name is Ray and I’m an ALCOHOLIC!!!!
January 29th, 2010 at 11:27 am
RR,
This edgeumucation thing is hard. Especially in Sand Yago. We have surfing classes! lol
Jets beating the DisChargers was like a 2nd xmas.
Later Nation.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Hello Ray
January 29th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Goodell: and with the 8th pick of the 2010 NFL draft the Oakland Raiders select Jacoby Ford, WR, Clemson
January 29th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Little bit on Cody too..
“Alabama NT Terrence Cody said Tuesday that he plans to shed 30 pounds and get to 340 before his rookie season in the NFL.
If he’s serious about shedding fat, Cody’s weigh-in at next month’s Combine will be telling. He could really damage his stock by reporting heavier. Cody’s 370-pound Senior Bowl measurement was 21 more than his weigh-in prior to Alabama’s 2009 season and 15 greater than he weighed 16 days ago.
Source: Palm Beach Post”
January 29th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Later O
January 29th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Wilfork is awesome, but I dont think NE allows him to walk. Wilfork just said if he is not resigned he wants to play in Tampa or Miami, and both teams need DT help
January 29th, 2010 at 11:31 am
Hampton’s not going anywhere dang it..
“NFL.com’s Jason La Canfora confirms that the Steelers consider retaining free agent NT Casey Hampton an offseason priority.
Owner Art Rooney II said as much a couple of weeks back. La Canfora also says Pittsburgh is trying hard to retain free agent FS Ryan Clark. Clark isn’t a candidate for the franchise tag, but Hampton will likely get it if the sides can’t work out a 2-3 year deal. There’s next to no chance Hampton gets away.
Source: Jason La Canfora on Twitter”
January 29th, 2010 at 11:32 am
I wouldnt be surprised if we try to sign either Fred Robbins or Barry Coefield from the Giants, since both are FAs and played under our new DL Coach several years in NY.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:32 am
DE Ellis
DT Seymour
DT Kelly
DE Shaughnessy
OLB Howard
MLB McClain
OLB Morrison
I could live with that front seven El Tato!
Seymour is the same height as Kelly and only 10 lbs heavier.
are you sure they aren’t both 3 technique types like Kelly & Warren are now?
January 29th, 2010 at 11:34 am
I hope Al is actually looking at some of the scouting reports..
“SI.com’s Tony Pauline reports that USC S Taylor Mays has appeared stiff in the hips on the Senior Bowl practice field and may force teams to begin projecting him as an outside linebacker.
Pauline isn’t the only one saying it. NFL Network’s Mike Mayock noted that Mays has struggled in man-coverage work, and he was easily beaten off the line of scrimmage by Florida WR Riley Cooper in one drill we saw. At 6′3/231, Mays looks more like a “Will” linebacker than a safety. His stock is slipping.
Source: SI.com”
January 29th, 2010 at 11:35 am
are you sure they aren’t both 3 technique types like Kelly & Warren are now?
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Seymour can do both, teams had two Linemans blocking him at DE
I can live with that front seven too, just add Trevor Scott too
January 29th, 2010 at 11:35 am
Warren is 2 inches shorter than Kelly and 30 lbs heavier and he can’t get the job done vs. the run
Is Seymour a long term fix at DT or just put there on occasion to create a mismatch?
January 29th, 2010 at 11:35 am
I dont want Mays in Oakland
January 29th, 2010 at 11:37 am
I honestly think we should use that extra 3rd rounder on a return specialist.. The bears used a 3rd on Hester a few years back and that worked out pretty well..
“Ole Miss RB/WR Dexter McCluster is reportedly drawing comparisons to the Jets’ Leon Washington from NFL personnel at the Senior Bowl.
The connection is obvious because of McCluster’s versatility. He caught 130 career passes for the run-first Rebels and graduated second in school history in all-purpose yards, behind only Deuce McAllister. McCluster was used sparingly on returns, but certainly has the skill set to be an impact NFL player there. He may be the hottest prospect at this week’s Senior Bowl.”
January 29th, 2010 at 11:38 am
I can live with that front seven too, just add Trevor Scott too
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Scott gets pushed around at DE on running plays. He played much better at WLB or as a rush DE on obvious pass plays
January 29th, 2010 at 11:38 am
I dont want Mays in Oakland
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Definitely not.. Especially when he’s already getting consistantly beaten in coverage..
January 29th, 2010 at 11:38 am
I would love to have McCluster here, if he last until round 4 the team that selects him will get a steal
January 29th, 2010 at 11:39 am
Mays = Roy Williams?
January 29th, 2010 at 11:40 am
Al drafted Darnell Bing.
If Mays slips to the 2nd or 3rd round he’ll draft him too
January 29th, 2010 at 11:42 am
I m not sure we will keep both Morrison and Howard.
Howard was benched in favour of Scott at WLB, and he started at the end at SLB because he was the only healthy LB.
While Morrison is not a MLB, maybe a decent OLB.
Add the fact the Raiders had conversations with LBs Sean Witherspoon, Donald Butler and twice with Koa Missi at the Senior Bowl.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:44 am
# SacRaider Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Little bit on Cody too..
“Alabama NT Terrence Cody said Tuesday that he plans to shed 30 pounds and get to 340 before his rookie season in the NFL.
If he’s serious about shedding fat, Cody’s weigh-in at next month’s Combine will be telling. He could really damage his stock by reporting heavier. Cody’s 370-pound Senior Bowl measurement was 21 more than his weigh-in prior to Alabama’s 2009 season and 15 greater than he weighed 16 days ago.
Source: Palm Beach Post”
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For Cody’s sake, I hope he took lessons from watching his slack-ass former teammate!
January 29th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Trade DMAC for Alabama’s strength and conditioning coach!
January 29th, 2010 at 11:49 am
who is Cody’s former teammate?
Russell went to LSU …
January 29th, 2010 at 11:50 am
the Raiders had conversations with LBs Sean Witherspoon, Donald Butler and twice with Koa Missi at the Senior Bowl
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are these inside or outside backers?
January 29th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Howard wasn’t benched, he was moved to SAM and Scott played WILL. Sam Williams was benched.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:52 am
We’ll probably keep Morrison; I doubt we keep both him and Howard. Taylor Mays? NO, NO NO, NO!
Jacoby Ford? He’s just trying to practice his sprints, so that if Al signs him to a huge contract in the first round, he can sprint all the way to the bank before they find out he’s just another fast fraud.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Andre Smith was his teammate.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:54 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 11:49 am
who is Cody’s former teammate?
Russell went to LSU …
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Uh, that would be the fat offensive lineman who plays for the Bengals … goes by the last name of Smith.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:54 am
who is Cody’s former teammate?
Russell went to LSU …
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I believe hes referring to Andre Smith (OT drafted by Cincy last year). But it would definitely be interesting to see who would win at a buffet between all 3..
January 29th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Trade DMAC for Alabama’s strength and conditioning coach!
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Now that is funny!
January 29th, 2010 at 11:57 am
If we kept one I would assume it would be Howard, he is younger, faster, better in coverage, and was a 2nd round pick. He is the better of the two IMO, but I wouldn’t mind keeping both with a real MLB
January 29th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Uh, that would be the fat offensive lineman who plays for the Bengals … goes by the last name of Smith.
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Sad part is i bet smith still had a more productive year than DHB…
January 29th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Andre Smith only played in 6 games and only started 1 of them this year.
yikes!
January 29th, 2010 at 11:59 am
I wouldn’t mind keeping both with a real MLB
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thats what I’m saying Severe….
and a real pair of DT’s too!
January 29th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Howard wasn’t benched, he was moved to SAM and Scott played WILL. Sam Williams was benched.
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Howard was benched in Dallas, Week 12.
He later started at SLB.
January 29th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 11:50 am
the Raiders had conversations with LBs Sean Witherspoon, Donald Butler and twice with Koa Missi at the Senior Bowl
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are these inside or outside backers?
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- Sean Witherspoon plays OLB, but he probably can play inside too. He is a late first, early second rounder.
- Koa Misi played DE, but is playing OLB in the Senior Bowl. He is a mid-rounder.
- Donald Butler plays MLB. He was a late rounder or even undrafted prospect but he is doing really well in the Senior Bowl practices and is now a mid-rounder pick.
January 29th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Andre Smith only played in 6 games and only started 1 of them this year.
yikes!
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Well, the only praise DHB got was for his blocking, so i guess they are about even..
January 29th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
# SacRaider Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Uh, that would be the fat offensive lineman who plays for the Bengals … goes by the last name of Smith.
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Sad part is i bet smith still had a more productive year than DHB…
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Even Succop (last player drafted) had a more productive year than DHB!
January 29th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
At least we got a receiver last year in Murphy
January 29th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Teams keep their good players when their contracts come up. Doubtful Casey Hampton is going to be available. richard Seymour is WAY more valuable as a DE than DT.
January 29th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
DHB – the NFL’s fastest man (fastest to the cashier’s window, that is!)
January 29th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
BREAKING NEWS – Kurt Warner retires
Will see what Arizona can do with Leinart
January 29th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
time to go. later fellas
have a great/safe weekend!
January 29th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
BREAKING NEWS – Kurt Warner retires
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Good guy. Even if he has an ugly wife and his n#ts are in her purse..
January 29th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Scott Roeder Convicted of 1st Degree Murder!
January 29th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
richard Seymour is WAY more valuable as a DE than DT.
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Seymour was drafted 6th overall in 2001 after playing DT in College.
He played his first two season in New England as a 4-3 DT and made the Pro Bowl in 2002.
January 29th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
# El Tato Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
richard Seymour is WAY more valuable as a DE than DT.
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Seymour was drafted 6th overall in 2001 after playing DT in College.
He played his first two season in New England as a 4-3 DT and made the Pro Bowl in 2002.
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I am not denying any of that. What I am saying is DE’s for the most part are more valuable than DT’s in the league, and for us specifically DE has been MUCH MORE Problematic than DT has been.
January 29th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Andre Smith only played in 6 games and only started 1 of them this year.
yikes!
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He had a broken leg or foot. Still produced more than DHB lol
January 29th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
He had a broken leg or foot. Still produced more than DHB lol
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DHB has broken hands.
January 29th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
I am not denying any of that. What I am saying is DE’s for the most part are more valuable than DT’s in the league, and for us specifically DE has been MUCH MORE Problematic than DT has been.
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I agree, keep Seymour at DE please!
January 29th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Andre Smith is going to be a very good pro football player. Bank it.
January 29th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
I would prefer to play Seymour inside, you need more than 4 sacks from your starting RE. Teams need 2 OLs to block him, so play him inside and let the DE to rush the passer, Shaughnessy showed great promise
January 29th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Dakota Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
I am not denying any of that. What I am saying is DE’s for the most part are more valuable than DT’s in the league, and for us specifically DE has been MUCH MORE Problematic than DT has been.
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I agree, keep Seymour at DE please!”
Even better, keep him at DE but move him all over the line throughout the game, to create mismatchs and confusion. Seemed to work in week 1 versus the Chargers when he got 2 sacks and was in Rivers’ face most of the night.
January 29th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Even better, keep him at DE but move him all over the line throughout the game, to create mismatchs and confusion. Seemed to work in week 1 versus the Chargers when he got 2 sacks and was in Rivers’ face most of the night.
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He played inside in most 3rd downs
January 29th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Andre Smith is going to be a very good pro football player. Bank it.
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If I had to choose between him and Hey-Bey, I would have Smith hands down
January 29th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
You guys football is the NUMBER ONE team sport on earth. And I know some of you guys want simple answers to complex questions. In other words, our run defense, statistically speaking, has not been good for the last few years, so the simple answer is put it all on the defensive coach and the DT’s. That’s the simple answer. The truth is our DE’s got sealed up letting teams run the edge on us which is what was killing us the last few years.
In 2009 we played better, but too many big plays in both the passing and run games killed us. In fact we were WORST in the league in giving up big plays. I posted that in the morning and then the Head Coach echoed the exact same sentiment from the Senior Bowl a few hours later. Moving Seymour inside does not solve our problems. In exacerbates it.
January 29th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
You guys football is the NUMBER ONE team sport on earth.
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I certainly agree with that. That’s why I don’t understand why Davis undervalues Coaches.
January 29th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Sport Illustrated:
Most Disappointing Player in Mobile
Taylor Mays/S/USC: For Mays the week turned into a potpourri of skills he’s likely to struggle with in the NFL; he’ll struggle handling man-to-man coverage assignments and struggle making plays sideline-to-sideline as a true NFL centerfielder. Mays is still a legitimate prospect for the next level but the limitations he displayed this week will reduce the number of teams wanting to acquire him in April.
January 29th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Yes, we all must stop exacerbating before we go blind!
January 29th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
# El Tato Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Even better, keep him at DE but move him all over the line throughout the game, to create mismatchs and confusion. Seemed to work in week 1 versus the Chargers when he got 2 sacks and was in Rivers’ face most of the night.
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He played inside in most 3rd downs
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he should. He is a good pass rushing DL man. Moving him inside and then bringing in one of the pass rush specialists is a smart move.
January 29th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
This is the worst I have seen in my life, I will have trouble sleeping today, I m leaving so I can get drunk to sleep today
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1001/nfl.cfb.senior.bowl.practice/content.2.html
January 29th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Seymour
Do you know OG by any chance? If so, tell him I said hello…
January 29th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
# KoolKell Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
You guys football is the NUMBER ONE team sport on earth.
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I certainly agree with that. That’s why I don’t understand why Davis undervalues Coaches.
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I don’t think he undervalues coaches, in fact I think it is just the opposite. He brings in VERY good coaches who go on to have a lot of success once they leave here. I think he is too cheap to pay them. While that seems like he is undervaluing him, it actually isn’t. He values the coaching staff, he’s just being a stingy bastard with regards to coaches salaries.
January 29th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
I don’t think he undervalues coaches, in fact I think it is just the opposite. He brings in VERY good coaches who go on to have a lot of success once they leave here. I think he is too cheap to pay them. While that seems like he is undervaluing him, it actually isn’t. He values the coaching staff, he’s just being a stingy bastard with regards to coaches salaries.
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Thats true, the entire league is loaded with former Raiders coaches
January 29th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Seymour
Do you know OG by any chance? If so, tell him I said hello…
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If he’s a Raider chances are I know him. He seems to be a bit of a legend around here. From what I can gather he has been banned. Probably for good reason. Pardon the pun.
January 29th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Richochet Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Hey Norco..guess you heard the good news.
As the report put it, the “WalMart of Weed” has opened a superstore right down the street from the Oakland Airport, at 70 Hegenberger.
Everything you need to expand your “medicinal” needs.
Just google igrow..
You can thank me later.
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I’ll thank you now.Thank You!
January 29th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
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January 29th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
#123
thanks for the visual.
January 29th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
check
January 29th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
El Tato – that’s just nasty
January 29th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
I wouldn’t worry about drafting Taylor Mays. Branch was one of our best defensive players last year, same with Huff. Mike Mitchell is a 2nd rounder who the Raiders are obviously extremely high on to have picked him that high. I’d be mildly shocked if we drafted a safety in any round.
The one leftfield pick I could see at No. 8 is this Sean Weatherspoon kid from Missouri. Height-weight-speed guy with a lot of production at a position of need. Projected as a late 1st or 2nd rounder, but consensus projections don’t apply in Oakland.
January 29th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Interesting to see if Cable lobbies for Mike Iupati at No. 8. He’s an Idaho guy, like Cable. Quick enough for the ZBS and powerful enough for power blocking. Scouts say he’s capable of playing any of the 5 o-line positions. Came into the Senior Bowl as a mid/late 1st rounder but has been perhaps the most impressive player there and should thus climb the board a little. That’s my guy right now.
January 29th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Jezuz, Cody makes Andre Smith look like he is in shape!
January 29th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Cody’s got tig ole bitties!
January 29th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
MClain is slow. He has great football instincts but he will get burned in the NFL…plus he arm tackles.
January 29th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
I’m not a huge McClain fan either. I know he got a ton of accolades but I watched several Alabama games and he never popped off the screen to me like the 49ers’ Patrick Willis did when he was at Ole Miss. I think McClain will be a solid but unspectacular NFL player. That’s not worth of the No. 8 pick.
January 29th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
You guys football is the NUMBER ONE team sport on earth.
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Exactly, that’s why I don’t understand why Al Davis undervalues Coaches & Chemistry!
January 29th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
The fact is that lots of people taken in the top 7 last year were complete flops.
We all know DHB, but Andre Smith (#6) played 6 games and was fat, hurt and heldout. Jason Smith (#2) played even less and already has concussion issues that sat him out the last half of the year. Jackson (#3) was less productive than Shaughnessy who has taken 100 picks later.
So you got 4 of the top 7 picks last year being complete flops, at least in their first year.
January 29th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
# Chris in NY Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
I’m not a huge McClain fan either. I know he got a ton of accolades but I watched several Alabama games and he never popped off the screen to me like the 49ers’ Patrick Willis did when he was at Ole Miss. I think McClain will be a solid but unspectacular NFL player. That’s not worth of the No. 8 pick.
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Amen, I agree. Brandon Spikes is the best MLB in this draft, dont care about the bad rap sheet, he is a true leader closest thing to Ray Lewis.
Watch this and judge it yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4KJUEdN3T8
January 29th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
http://i.tsn.com/i/photos/20100129/134879.jpg
January 29th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
McClain is under 21, huge and physical, with great instincts and a student of the game.
John Clayton said that no way will Bill Parcells pass him up if he is on the board when they pick (#11 I think).
I will take what Parcells says.
Draft McClain!!!!
January 29th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
McClain ISN’T the fastest guy on earth, but he is 255 with great instincts. Works for me.
January 29th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Vegas Raider
Did you see McClain body be honest, the guy is skinny not a beefed up MLB like Ray Lewis and Patrick Wilis, dude please go and take look at him, matter fact watch this,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jpZsYNHjxU&feature=related pause in 3:08 that was him in high school, he looks like a Wide Reciever, dude is skinny, chicken legs like DMAC, I dont see any physical toughness, he will be a bust mark my words.
January 29th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Personally I would rather have Okung, Bruce Campbell or Davis from Rutgers before I would take McClain, but again, that’s just me and my complete frustration at the Raiders offensive line.
January 29th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
True,
I have watched a handful of his games, and while I didn’t notice his chicken legs, I did notice him cleaning people’s clocks out there.
He is kind of tall for a MLB, which may make him seem skinnier. But he was the most physical MLB in the most physical conference (SEC).
And he isn’t even 21 yet. He will put some more natural bulk to him over the years.
January 29th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Pathetic
Have any of you guys ever played football, you know a player when you see one, physical attributes is important, I want a mean looking beefed up MLB to scare the Running backs not a skinny tall MLB who will get eaten up by Jacobs or AP. Brandon Spikes is built to play MLB since he was in high school, he is a leader and intimidates anyone across the field. McClain will be a bust I said it in here.
January 29th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Seymour
Do you know OG by any chance? If so, tell him I said hello…
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If he’s a Raider chances are I know him. He seems to be a bit of a legend around here. From what I can gather he has been banned. Probably for good reason. Pardon the pun.
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LMFAO…you’re so dense.
Dogg OBVIOUSLY knows you’re OakglennyPoo, mental midget.
And no..you didn’t get banned.
YOU BAILED..BOWED OUT…WHIMPERED SAYING “I’M DONE POSTING HERE”..and left, tail between legs..like the beyotch you are.
Funny seeing everyone laugh at you , and you replying “Oh..hey..they’re laughing at me..I must be a legend”.
We laugh because you’re the board Motley Fool.
As if we could stop…
January 29th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
McClain is 6′4 258
Spikes is 6′3 254
They are the same size.
How is Spikes a leader and McClain not? I saw Spikes getting suspended this year, and McClain being spoken of as a student of the game, being a team captain of the best defense in the country.
Spikes, himself and his defense, regressed this year.
January 29th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
TrueRaider Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Pathetic
Have any of you guys ever played football, you know a player when you see one, physical attributes is important, I want a mean looking beefed up MLB to scare the Running backs not a skinny tall MLB who will get eaten up by Jacobs or AP. Brandon Spikes is built to play MLB since he was in high school, he is a leader and intimidates anyone across the field. McClain will be a bust I said it in here.”
I’ve been calling Spikes name for quite some time now. I am more than impressed with this kid and personally think a good MLB should have a bit of a nasty streak.
January 29th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
TrueRaider Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Brandon Spikes is built to play MLB since he was in high school, he is a leader and intimidates anyone across the field
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Having a scruffy beard and dreads may scare guys in college but that shyt don’t fly in the NFL.
Smashing people on the field is how McClain intimidates people. Not looking tough, talking tough, and spitting on people like Spikes does.
January 29th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Vegas Raider
The guy is 6′4 250 lbs, COME ON MAN. He is way undersized to be MLB in the NFL, he needs to be close to 270 lbs for his frame. Btw, you know about football, tell me when was the last time you saw a 6′4 MLB make it big in this league????
Btw, to add another information to you when you 6′4 and MLB injuries is next thing to happen.
Mark my words he will be a bust.
Here is his weakness in case you were just riding the bandwagon and not researching:
A little uncomfortable in space
# Weaknesses:
1) Unimpressive speed
2) Overpursues against run
3) Questionable 4-3 inside linebacker
4) Average sideline-sideline range
5) Good, but not an exceptional athlete
6) Could be exposed in man scheme
7) Doesn’t have huge upside
Main point, #3 and #6, is that someone you would plug him from first day, I dont care he is 21, you can’t pick projects in the 8th overall pick, you need a legit starter.
January 29th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
hey rich-o the troll, isn’t your mommies group meeting? Why don’t you join them you puss.
January 29th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Rolando McClain is going to be a good ILB in the NFL. And we are going to be seeing him in the Oakland Coliseum regularly. The question is whether he will be in silver and black or Kc red and white.
January 29th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Anthony dorsett looked like a player with his shirt off…….
Plus his dad is a HOF.
Still couldn’t play worth a damn
January 29th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
draft beer not players
January 29th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Desperate Bears interviewing Martz.—pft.com
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Martz & Cun tler together? Would be like mixing bleach and ammonia….toxic…
January 29th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
TrueRaider Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Pathetic
Have any of you guys ever played football, you know a player when you see one, physical attributes is important, I want a mean looking beefed up MLB to scare the Running backs not a skinny tall MLB who will get eaten up by Jacobs or AP. Brandon Spikes is built to play MLB since he was in high school, he is a leader and intimidates anyone across the field. McClain will be a bust I said it in here.
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Isn’t this the Al Davis philosophy that has gotten us into trouble now? Just get the biggest dudes who scare people when they get off the bus, no worries if they can’t play football..
We need players who can play football and match the scheme we are trying to run.. (i’m not saying either Mclain or spikes can’t play, i’m saying we shouldnt base our decision on what they look like under their pads..)
January 29th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
He is 6′4, Spikes is 6′3
Bart Scott and David Harris are 6′2. Cushing is 6′3
So he may be an inch or two taller than the normal LB.
But not one of these guys is even close to 270. WTF is that all about?
He is going to be a top 10 pick, the consensus first LB taken, and I wouldn’t think he is any type of “project”.
People thought Rey Lewis was too small, and not fast enough.
January 29th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
McClain does have the propensity to overpursue. Which is something we have seen here WAY TOO MUCH in the last few years.
January 29th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Seymour Bush
Everyone questions McClain if he really can be MLB in the 4-3 defense, scouts are saying that he is an inside linebacker in 3-4 but outside linebacker in 4-3. Be honest, have you researched about this guy? I dont think any of you guys know anything about McClain. If you did you would understand his struggles mainly in man to man defense and he is very weak to play 4-3. Wow serious you guys just jump on anyone, if was Todd Mcshay and say jesus is here you guys would believe me. Pathetic
January 29th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Vegas Raider
Answer me this, Brandon Spike played in Florida in a 4-3 system, McClain played a 3-4 in Alabama, why would you draft a guy who everyone states that he is not MLB in 4-3 system. You draft players who fit your system, why would anyone want 3-4 MLB who will struggle playing man to man defense and clearly will seem lost in 3-4?
I AM SAYING IT NOW, IF WE DRAFT McClain HE WILL BE A BUST IN OAKLAND. HE DOESNT FIT A 4-3 DEFENSE. PERIOD
January 29th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
I’m with Lynn…. DRAFT BEER! & MEAN Linemen
January 29th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
TrueRaider Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Seymour Bush
Everyone questions McClain if he really can be MLB in the 4-3 defense
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Everyone, LMAO!!!!!
Why don’t you clue us in on where you did this great “research” of yours?
Here’s CBS and Gil Brandt’s take:
“What can linebacker Rolando McClain expect in the months leading up to the NFL draft? Lots of phone calls. The Alabama All-American’s stock went up even more – if that’s possible – after he declared Monday he was bypassing his senior year to play in the NFL. “He fits all 32 defenses,” said an NFL scout on the condition of anonymity. “The guy will be able to play in anybody’s system.” The scout gave three different reasons why the 6-foot-4, 258-pounder is a lock to be picked in the first round in April’s draft. He’s physical. “He’s the old NFL size for a linebacker. Today’s linebackers are 6-1 or 6-2 and about 230 pounds, so he’s going to be a bigger version of that. He’s got (Chicago Bear) Brian Urlacher size, which is a rarity, and he can run. He’s smart. “He ran a system (at Alabama) that’s tough to run. The fact that he can be a middle linebacker and run the show is impressive. Every defensive coordinator is going to want a player like that.” He’s versatile. “You can line him up inside or outside, or weakside. He can even be a rusher.” The scout said McClain doesn’t have any real negatives, though “his speed is OK, not great.” If there’s a potential weakness, it’s in pass coverage. “Can he play man-to-man against an NFL tight end like Antonio Gates?” the scout asked, before offering a probable solution. “He had so many (pre-snap) responsibilities (at Alabama),” the scout said. “He’ll have so much more time to study game plans. He won’t have to worry about the 20-hour rule anymore. It’ll be all football”
January 29th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
See that part, “the guy will be able to play in anybody’s system”
I’m taking his word over yours. Sorry, no offense.
January 29th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Hey, OakGlenn/Seymour…
When I first came on this blog, weren’t you being called out from everyone for being the Cross Posting King?
Wasn’t that you?
Where prior to registration, you were well known by all for not only crossposting, but having conversations with yourself?
Propping yourself? lol…replying to yourself, saying “good point”?
Then when you got shot down, you would have exchanges WITH YOURSELF, telling YOURSELF that “those guys are idiots”?
Yeah, that was you, wasn’t it, Glenny?
You’ve been the board crossposting beyotch for years..hell, seems prior to me getting here, EVERYONE CALLED YOU OUT ON IT.
And..back then? Just like now? Exact same M.O., lol.
Exactly.
that’s what idiots do…right, Glenny?
January 29th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Too bad that scout was a clueless Raiders scout Vegas. lol
January 29th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
True,
Please provide the link where “everyone states that he is not a MLB in a 4-3″ (your words)
January 29th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
TrueRaider to be honest, no, I have not watched a ton of game film on this guy. But notice my comment that he does have the tendency to over pursue. In a 3/4 you can overpursue and another ILB is there. You can’t do that in a 4/3. You overpursue and you better have support from the secondary or else you are going to give up big plays. See My Post #118
January 29th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Look McClain could be a bust, anybody can be a bust.
Look at the last draft, picks 12-23 were way better than 1-11.
Busts happen, all the time. I think McClain has less bust potential than just about anybody in the draft. He may not be great, but he will play for 10 years in the league, and will be smashing people.
January 29th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Your mommie group is meeting troll-o. Right now they are talking about changing diapers and baking cookies. that’s where you belong.
January 29th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
I’m with VegasRaider on this one. Hard to be down on a 6′3″ 255 lb guy who has excellent instincts, plays with passion, studies the game, is 20 years old, the captain of his defense and a national champion. Hard for me to be down on that guy.
January 29th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Dmac was the experts can’t miss in 08′.
Don’t underestimate the Raiders ability to bust anyone.
January 29th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Vegas Raider
Its alright, you can take their words. No harm done.
But here is my take, he is at best a Lavar Arrington out of the league now.
Here is what I read about him
I really don’t think McClain is a 4-3 inside linebacker. The speed and lateral range just isn’t there for me, and I think he would be exposed because he will overpursue gaps. McClain is great for 3-4 teams because he can play inside, but also move over to the outside if needed temporarily. His best fits are at 3-4 inside linebacker and 4-3 strongside linebacker. McClain is a solid prospect who will likely come off the board in the top 20 picks.
I believe them then your scouts lol.
Listen we can do this all day but I am speaking logic, you saying 2 inches dont make a difference, it does sir. If you tall and skinny framed, you can get run over by bigger running backs. M Bush would eat him alive in practice. My point, dude is soft I seen him talk, play and react during games. I want my MLB to be a Knucklehead aggressive beats up ppl scares the hell out of running backs. Spikes is the only guy I see as MLB in this draft. I would take Micah Johnson before McClain, I dont trust 20 yr old kid to run this defense. I trust a grown arse man who talks like this please listen to him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4KJUEdN3T8
January 29th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
And for the record, I like Spikes a lot as well. He plays with a swagger, and you got to like that.
But McClain has been a phenom and has had scouts drooling over him since High School. He came in as a true freshman, IN THE SEC, and was cracking heads at MLB.
Two years later he is winning a million awards, a national championship and is going to be a top 10 pick. The dude is a phenom. 6′4 255, and a passion for the game???? Sign him up!!!!
January 29th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Hey troll-o-chet, after your mommie meeting is over, why don’t you email JerryMacDonald and find out what happened to that oakglen guy? I am sure he will tell you. Then you tell everyone here and stop bugging me about it. BTW internet troll is the lowest form of life. You low life troll.
January 29th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Hey you could be right, and we can go around in circles all day. We shall wait and see.
But don’t sleep on the quiet guys. Derrick Brookes tackled hundred of guys a year at LB, and than picked them up and started preaching.
Having a love for the game helps a lot. This kid seems to have that. You can say the same for Brandon Spikes as well.
January 29th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Hey Krappy, now would be the perfect time for you to cut and paste an article from a professional, respectable online football publication – like the Bleacher Report – about how the Raiders don’t develop their talent.
Then I’ve got this crazy idea – why don’t you insert “I” into the sentences so all the opinion and ideas in the article can instantly belong to you and not the real authors?
It’ll be great, everyone will totally believe an uneducated, senile old dirtbag like yourself actually wrote it, and you can sit back to soak in the accolades while taking full credit!
Wait a second. You already did it. Just a few days ago. That means you’re a dirty PLAGIARIST. The lowest form of life this side of Charged Down’s swim trunks.
Betcha just crapped those overalls again, huh?
January 29th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Dmac was the experts can’t miss in 08′.
Don’t underestimate the Raiders ability to bust anyone.
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Considering the track record of 1st and 2nd rounders the last decade….you are right
January 29th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Don’t underestimate the Raiders ability to bust anyone.
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LOL….I skipped past it for a second.
So true indeed
January 29th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
In the spirit of PTI and their “Odds” segment.
How many different handles does Senior Beecham, the actual person typing, post under??
I set the line at 6.5 currently
January 29th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Vegas Raider
We just misunderstanding each other, you like McClain and I like Spikes, but what I am trying to make you understand is that
A) he didnt play a 3-4 defense while Spikes played in it, why would the Raiders who play the 4-3 draft a guy who plays 3-4 and there are questions about him fitting this system.
B) Our MLB needs to be able to play man to man defense that MR. Davis forces Marshall to play it 90% of the game, McClain struggles in Man to Man defense, while Spikes is known to be hard hitter and good in those situations.
C) Main important thing, this defense is missing a true leader who has got the it factor, Spikes got that, his swagger is 100%, he is a guy who will punk Sam Williams arse and force Warren arse to play hard. Show me one clip where McClain sounds hard, he is very soft spoken reminds me alot about Huff. Again, did you watch this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4KJUEdN3T8
January 29th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Round 1 SHOULD be OL or DL and nothing else. Of course, Davis will fall for some backer, receiver or safety with some great measurables.
Meanwhile the the rest of the team gets smashed into fine dust because of a paper thin Line
January 29th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
# SacRaider Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 11:34 am
I hope Al is actually looking at some of the scouting reports..
“SI.com’s Tony Pauline reports that USC S Taylor Mays has appeared stiff in the hips on the Senior Bowl practice field and may force teams to begin projecting him as an outside linebacker.
Pauline isn’t the only one saying it. NFL Network’s Mike Mayock noted that Mays has struggled in man-coverage work, and he was easily beaten off the line of scrimmage by Florida WR Riley Cooper in one drill we saw. At 6′3/231, Mays looks more like a “Will” linebacker than a safety. His stock is slipping.
Source: SI.com”
^^^^^^^^^^
I think most of us knew that Mays doesn’t have the cover ability or range to play FS in the NFL.
And the Raiders don’t need a SS since Branch, Mitchell and the FS Huff has developed…finally.
Old man Al better NOT do something stupid again and take Mays or Haden with that #8 pick.
January 29th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
I want a new Romanowski a beast who will punk the QB and RBs, McClain is soft spoken, hear him speak, dude seems soft.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OzqwhyKlts&feature=related
January 29th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
We have four picks in the lst three rounds and plenty of holes to fill. No need to panic. If we took a McClain at #8 overall, it would fill a hole and not be much of a reach. We could then find OL and DL in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, and have a very nice draft. You can find Pro Bowl players in the lst three rounds. We have four shots. Now if Davis picks a running back in the top of the 2nd round, I will probably shoot myself.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
DHB, Huff and McClain would be best friends if McClain gets drafted, they are all soft.
Spikes is beast here him speak in this documentary around 2mins 43 secs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxwvynaVu30
January 29th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Vegas, that’s no way for someone dying for an invitation to the Baja 2010 Blog All Star Bro Down Getaway to behave.
But I do welcome all the speculation you and your girlfriend Madden Raider care to invest into other possible blog handles.
I’m mildly curious as to what you ladies come up with.
And on an even more hilarious note, word had it that Krappy has already purchased his scuba equipment to compete in the resort snorkling contest.
Gives a new meaning to the term “banana in the tailpipe”, huh?
January 29th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
No linebackers, receivers, quarterbacks, running backs, safeties or nickle backs until this team gets the freekn lines right!
How many years of watching this team get overwhelmed against physical teams does it take to understand the lines are where it starts.
Did we not see what the Jets and Ravens accomplished with marginal skill player talent?
Come on folks
A clip to remind you:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/cleveland-browns/09000d5d8154c10c/WK-16-Jerome-Harrison-highlights
January 29th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Haden honestly would not be that bad of a choice. There was a fantastic personnel guy who once he had a bona fide star at a position would go get another excellent player at the same position just so teams could not steer away from the one player. Just imagine a 2ndary with Asomuagh, Haden and CJ as your 3rd corner. Getting rid of Routt would be addition by subtraction. I wouldn’t do it, but it might not be the worst thing.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Man I tell you what after seeing Trueraider YouTube post I am feeling Spikes, McClain sounds soft and looks soft.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
thats why i wanted paul posluvnsky wuteva./.. dat dude reminded me of romo
January 29th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Why is it so easy to wait until the later rounds for a DT or OL?
Why can’t this team wait until the middle rounds to get a cornerback, linebacker or receiver.
Year after year after year of neglecting these lines and relying on free agency and scrubs to fill THE MOST IMPORTANT position groups on the field.
I said this last year when the rage was Crabtree etc…you can get skill players ANYWHERE in the draft. You get your elite line talent in the top of the draft.
Draft the lines!
Another clip to remind you
http://www.nfl.com/videos/baltimore-ravens/09000d5d8158c532/NFL-Weekly-Countdown-No-4-Willis-runs-wild
January 29th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
vegas raider Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
In the spirit of PTI and their “Odds” segment.
How many different handles does Senior Beecham, the actual person typing, post under??
I set the line at 6.5 currently
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It’s gotta be. He can’t just be one guy sitting around here all day waiting for me to post.
Oakglenn and his many personalities.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Haden honestly would not be that bad of a choice. There was a fantastic personnel guy who once he had a bona fide star at a position would go get another excellent player at the same position just so teams could not steer away from the one player. Just imagine a 2ndary with Asomuagh, Haden and CJ as your 3rd corner. Getting rid of Routt would be addition by subtraction. I wouldn’t do it, but it might not be the worst thing.
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Joe Haden is a dime a dozen. There are plenty of guys that run fast and do well in college etc.
Will another Cornerback make the difference? Or would a productive DT make a bigger difference? How about a Right Tackle that doesn’t false start? A guard that doesn’t get overwhelmed on every snap…A center that can actually do something.
IF the Raiders draft Joe Haden…book another 5-11 season.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Both the Jets and Ravens have proven LB’s as well, that have played with all different types of guys up front.
The Jets drafted have drafted vey well on the D-line though. They drafted Shaun Ellis like 10 years ago and made the pro-bowl this year.
The only guy around here for 10 years that makes the Pro Bowl is our punter.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Another clip to remind you
http://www.nfl.com/videos/baltimore-ravens/09000d5d8158c532/NFL-Weekly-Countdown-No-4-Willis-runs-wild
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Dude ran inside, outside, right, left.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Vegas,
As you stated in your post…they hadve great D-Line play too.
If the Raiders think that some linebacker in the draft is going to make a measurable difference with Kelly & Warren up front is setting themselves up for disappointment. Then we will be saying “fillin blank” is a bust.
I want 100% dedication to the lines. Can’t go wrong there
January 29th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Oh this should be great – Krappy has joined the discussion! Just wait, as soon as someone submits a guess Krappy will claim it as his own.
That’s what senile old PLAGIARISTS, like Krappy, do!
January 29th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
The irony of Oakglen using dozens of different names in here and THEN calling others a troll!
What hospital did you escape from Oak? Jus tell me I wont tell anyone else I promise..
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# Seymour Bush Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Hey troll-o-chet, after your mommie meeting is over, why don’t you email JerryMacDonald and find out what happened to that oakglen guy? I am sure he will tell you. Then you tell everyone here and stop bugging me about it. BTW internet troll is the lowest form of life. You low life troll.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
The only DB not a dime a dozen is Javier Arenas!!
With a 2nd round pick, hopefully, this guy can be returning our kicks next year, plus a physical slot DB, who also had 5 sacks and INTS this year:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRLj3ZzdI-Q
January 29th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
The 0bama admin is such a pitiful circus even KoolKell is forced to talk football.
We dont blame you for ducking for cover KK, we’re just happy you joined the rest of the Country & realized what a mistake we made electing this tool.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
KoolKell,
Its just like last year. Davis talked himself out of getting a D-Lineman…then had to do a hail mary at the end of camp to land Seymour when it became PAINFULLY obvious this team had no line!
Probably going to make the same mistake again…”If we just stop those big plays” as if they don’t count. The team gives up big plays because the opponent knows that if they just smash and smash…the Raiders will break.
And the result is the #2 tackler is Tyvon Branch
January 29th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
I think we draft an OT in round 3, maybe a G later, and continue to address the rest of the D-line in free agency.
You can’t just draft only line guys. Nobody does that.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Sean Weatherspoon and Micah Johnson are both LB’s who are certainly not soft….thats for sure.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Haden honestly would not be that bad of a choice. There was a fantastic personnel guy who once he had a bona fide star at a position would go get another excellent player at the same position just so teams could not steer away from the one player. Just imagine a 2ndary with Asomuagh, Haden and CJ as your 3rd corner. Getting rid of Routt would be addition by subtraction. I wouldn’t do it, but it might not be the worst thing.
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Joe Haden is a dime a dozen. There are plenty of guys that run fast and do well in college etc.
Will another Cornerback make the difference? Or would a productive DT make a bigger difference? How about a Right Tackle that doesn’t false start? A guard that doesn’t get overwhelmed on every snap…A center that can actually do something.
IF the Raiders draft Joe Haden…book another 5-11 season.
^^^^^^^^^^
Exactly….
Picking a freakin CB with the # 8 pick will just help continue the downward spiral of the franchise and team.
Enough is enough….build the lines and LB corp through the draft and get a kick returner in the later rounds.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
for u mistabrown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUQiyDXy0Oo
January 29th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Hey Oak…want to laugh at your sorryass this last preseason?
Sure you do
· Oakglenn Says:
February 20th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Look, everyone, this blog is under attack by trolls right now. Ignore them, and I will handle them. Talk football. I’m keeping contact with the mods right now and we’re working on a way to get rid of these trolls, for good! So just talk football, ignore the trolls, and I’ll handle it. If any of you talk to the trolls, I’ll have you banned, too.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
MistabrOwn you and rich-o-troll are the two most reviled people in here. Why don’t you do something else with your time. Maybe you two could start an a Capella group. It might jump start your otherwise miserable life.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
· Oakglenn Says:
February 20th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Anyone else want to get banned???????
Huh??????? Huh??????????????????????????
That’s what I thought. Now, back to football. I like the moves Al is making. Gibril Wilson was awful in man coverage. When playing on the weak side, he tended to favor the slot back who was lined up at a 30 degree angle and this confusion in coverage caused a gaping hole in the flat which led to opponents mixing up a lot of xyz scat formations on us. Anyone who knows football knows this. But you guys would rather bash Al. Just blame Al.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
can the raiders draft jimmy clausen ? YES WE CAN!
can d mac flourish in the nfl ? YES HE CAN !
can we get a better writer than jerry mc ? HOPE WE CAN!
January 29th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
As for the rest of you, have a very nice Friday. Peace Out.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Oakglenn
Before registration you were know as “King of the Trolls”
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He still is, Kell. Review today’s comments from Raider Ron (note, with a space between Raider and Ron. Not the real RaiderRon, with no space in name).
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January 29th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
SO I DID SUM MORE RESEARCH OF WYOMING and how come the only famous people 2 ever be born there were from like the 1800`s ? buffalo bil cody & DICK CHENEY ? HMMM?
January 29th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
wyoming is a fraud!
January 29th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
# KoolKell Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Dmac was the experts can’t miss in 08′.
Don’t underestimate the Raiders ability to bust anyone.
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The only problem with DMac is that he’s not an NFL caliber RB. I believe he could be an NFL caliber slot WR. That’s where we should be utilizing his skills of catching & running fast. It’s all a matter of putting him in the right position. The cowboys got the real Arkansas running back, Felix Jones.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
Trade DMAC and the number 8 pick to the Rams for #1 and get Suh!
February 1st, 2010 at 4:05 am
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