Brown faces tough competition in Hall vote
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, February 4th, 2010 at 10:59 am in Oakland Raiders.
Playing catch-up as I take advantage of a slow week to tend to things on the home front:
The theme of this Dallas Morning-News story on Tim Brown seems to be he’s a Hall of Fame candidate in spite of the Raiders and Al Davis, and not because of them. Brown says Davis even ordered Jeff George to stop throwing to Brown so often.
Nobody talks a better game than Brown. He’s a first-ballot Hall of Famer as an interviewer, but I’ll be surprised if he makes it in on the first shot considering what he’s up against.
Jerry Rice is a slam dunk on the first ballot, and Cris Carter is back for his second chance. The guess here is Brown will be left out this time around as Carter was last year.
As an aside, if former Chargers and Cardinals coach Don Coryell is enshrined, Davis may break his recent silence to speak up on behalf of Tom Flores. For all the Chargers’ explosive offenses, Coryell never even made a Super Bowl, let alone won one. He lost to Flores when the Raiders beat San Diego in the AFC title game following the 1980 season.
– Here’s a good read on Ted Hendricks in the Miami Herald. The word unique is overused, but it’s appropriate when applied to Hendricks. There hasn’t been anyone like him before or since.
– Monte Poole thinks Davis must be up to something. Otherwise, why would things be so eerily quiet during an important point in club history.
My thought? The Raiders have never given much thought to presenting themselves to the public, so the silence isn’t that big a deal. Maybe the philosophy is to keep quiet and try and fix things rather than make promises they can’t keep.
– Big surprise . . . Nnamdi Asomugha tells the Chron’s David White he was joking about the trade to the Jets to play alongside Darrelle Revis.
Even I managed to figure that one out.
Asomugha is sitting on a winning lottery ticket. The third year of his contract in 2011 pays Asomugha either $16.8 million or the average of the top five quarterbacks in the NFL, whichever figure is higher. Ownership in Indianapolis and New Orleans has indicated Peyton Manning and Drew Brees will get new deals this offseason.
The Raiders can either pay Asomugha or not pick up the option on the third year.
– Hard to make a case for the Raiders bringing out the best in their players when you consider that of the six men named to the NFL’s All-Decade team who wore silver and black, only one _ punter Shane Lechler _ built his case while in Oakland.
Wide receiver Randy Moss quit trying until he got traded. Defensive tackle LaRoi Glover was cut because the Raiders already had Chester McGlockton, Russell Maryland, Jerry Ball and Grady Jackson, with the final call being Glover vs. Jackson.
Warren Sapp added to his sack total but was in the middle of a porous defense against the run. Charles Woodson needed the serenity of Green Bay to apply himself in a manner which would bring out the best in his skills and bring his game to a new level. We’re only one year in to Richard Seymour’s time in Oakland, and although he’s the Raiders best lineman, it’s hard to make a case he was better than in New England.
The Raiders had a seventh All-Decade team member on the roster in training camp, but Lorenzo Neal sustained a hamstring injury which ended his career.
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February 4th, 2010 at 11:03 am
first
February 4th, 2010 at 11:04 am
2nd?
February 4th, 2010 at 11:08 am
a 5′9″ corner without elite speed that isn’t a good fit in man 2 man would be a terrible match in Oakland
I say pass on Javier Arenas unless he somehow drops to Round 4 …
how did CB Alphonso Smith do in dungver this year?
February 4th, 2010 at 11:09 am
CUATRO
February 4th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Arenas at the nickel??
February 4th, 2010 at 11:12 am
trade the walrus for a nickel!
February 4th, 2010 at 11:15 am
seems so small after being 1501st
February 4th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Hard to make a case for the Raiders bringing out the best in their players when you consider that of the six men named to the NFL’s All-Decade team who wore silver and black, only one _ punter Shane Lechler _ built his case while in Oakland.
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Dysfunction Junction. How do you expect a guy who got us into 29-83, to get us out of it?????????
February 4th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Hue Jackson is here to salvage JaMarcus Russell, mold him into a quality NFL quarterback and hope it results in an offensive competency not seen in these parts for nearly a decade.
Ted Tollner and Paul Hackett, both with reputations as teachers, were brought in last year but couldn’t save JaMarcus. Sources close to both say the coaches were frustrated by Russell’s lack of commitment to maximize his obvious physical talent.
The hiring of Jackson is proof Raiders owner Al Davis wants a new play-caller — Jackson assumes the role from Cable, who presumably remains head coach. Moreover, Jackson’s arrival also seems to affirm Russell’s status as a Raider in 2010.
Raider Nation is, as it feared but suspected, stuck with JaMarcus for at least another year.
But Jackson takes an altogether different approach than that taken by Tollner and Hackett, both professorial men in their 60s. Jackson is a full generation younger, he’s charismatic and he forms personal relationships with members of his unit.
Jackson is as prepared and equipped as anyone to develop Russell, though there has been no detectable sign of change within JaMarcus; that postseason run to Las Vegas only served to further tarnish his apathetic image. Indeed, Jackson likely does — and should — represent Russell’s last chance to make it work in Oakland.
-Monte Poole
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how long until Hue Jackson gets frustrated by Russell’s lack of commitment?
February 4th, 2010 at 11:31 am
RR
I hope Jackson and Russell will be able to relate, where Tollner/Hackett could not. I think they will.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Quarterbacks coach Paul Hackett has not been spotted in Mobile, and his status with the Raiders is in question. One player said Davis ceased speaking to Hackett midway through last season because he tired of hearing Hackett’s harsh assessment of quarterback JaMarcus Russell.
-Steve Corkran
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Will Hue Jackson sing the praises of a bust or take the Cable/Hackett/Tollner approach and speak his mind?
February 4th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Old Kell,..you would not worry so much about the last 7 years if you would take my advice and get high…you truly do need it,..lifes too short to be so bitter,..and you my friend dont have alot of time left,..might as well enjoy it.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Doofus Boob,
Do sit around waiting on me all day?
February 4th, 2010 at 11:34 am
You think Jamarcus might relate better with Hue because hes black?…I sure do, and Im sure that was a big factor in hiring the man,..and I think it was a smart move…those two old honkeys, Hell I wouldnt have tuned them in either.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Yes
February 4th, 2010 at 11:35 am
Hue will NEVER show anything but praise, optimism, and confidence in the “potential” of (____________) *insert name*.
He’s an asst. Assts, who are hired under the guise of “Save BlubberButt” aren’t going to rock the boat. They’re not going to call anyone out.
they, like almost every asst, and some HC’s (see Cable) usually play the “politically correct” answer route.
Besides..does it matter? Is anything/anyone on this planet going to change the impossible?
Russell has zero qualities to exploit…none.
Hue isn’t a miracle worker.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:36 am
FYI Doofus Boob,
I gotta run out to Walnut Creek. Will be back around 1:30. So that you can attend to other business. lol.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Im not leaving this seat.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:39 am
And I never have other business to attend to.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:41 am
John Herrera wanted to “set the record straight” on the thinking that Jackson was brought in to “only” work with JaMarcus Russell.
“Hue Jackson was hired to work with the entire offense,” Herrera said, “regardless of who the quarterback might be.”
Reading between the lines, that means nothing is guaranteed Russell, though he will have the opportunity to compete for the starting quarterback position.
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are these comments by Al Davis through his senior executive supposed to motivate Russell? was that the thinking behind it?
Everybody knows Jackson was brought in to fix JR, regardless of what the Raiders tell the media…
February 4th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Rich, I used to fret over Russell,..but no longer, Im confident he will be one of the cuts in Napa,..hes not going to be under center again, not here anyway,…I will take Mike Vick though for sure,..big time.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Hue was for sure brought in to try and fix Russell, but once its clear he has no talent, they will cut ties with him,..probably mid preseason,..before final cuts….like second wave of cuts….and no Russell wont care.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:43 am
PHONEY FOX NEWS at it again with their LIES!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkAn_qJdgBs&feature=popular
February 4th, 2010 at 11:44 am
Another GOP stool pigeon tool…Glenn Beck caught lying…..AGAIN!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8xptCpnNh4&feature=channel
February 4th, 2010 at 11:44 am
# KoolKell Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 11:31 am
RR
I hope Jackson and Russell will be able to relate, where Tollner/Hackett could not. I think they will.
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What’s to relate?
These are grown men. In Pro Ball. If anyone who’s been handed a 30 million dollar lottery ticket needs someone to “relate” to him in order for them to finally get it?
They’re never going to get it.
Besides, what’s to get? Bill Walsh couldn’t cure a qb that has bad footwork, horrible touch, zero ability to learn, less ability to execute, and an absence of desire.
You can’t TEACH DESIRE. Either you have it, or you don’t.
Same with passion.
Russell is void of passion AND desire.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Yeah, Vick is definitely an upgrade.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:47 am
knight,..are you aware the cctimes also has a cool political blog?…try it sometimes, then you wouldnt waste your time with that here…yes, you may find me there too.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:48 am
I want to stick vicks head under water untill he stops moving
February 4th, 2010 at 11:48 am
I think would be great here,..wildcat as well as regular qb,..better then whats on roster now, thats for sure.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:48 am
4eva,..two wrongs dont make a right.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Wait..isn’t everyone an upgrade?
February 4th, 2010 at 11:51 am
The monte Poole link is pointing to the Hendricks article.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Have to agree with 4eva…Vick is an upgrade only because his sorryass needs more abuse for what he did to those dogs, and falling flat on his face at the coliseum means he’ll be getting a torrent of well deserved boos, and comments.
Being a dog lover, what Vick did is just above child abuse and rape..and all three should never be forgiven.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:52 am
Hey man, scored some Soma this morning,..this shyt is really awesome,..I highly recommend.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:53 am
# Norco Bob Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 11:48 am
4eva,..two wrongs dont make a right.
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But three lefts do…
February 4th, 2010 at 11:54 am
I agree Norco Bob,but…
Oh well the WHEEL is spinning and it will get back to vick eventually
February 4th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Look, I have two poodles,..but Mike seems remoresul,..possibly an act,..but to me he seems sorry,…I am into second chances,…anyway looks like hes stayin in Philly anyway.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:55 am
I didn’t see JaBlingwich’s shiny trinkets during the NBA game the other night. What was he wearing? Don’t bother posting a link. My work PC sucks.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:55 am
I wouldnt want to talk to the guy, but hey, I can seperate the two,..I would support him as a Raider,..not as a person I would hang with.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:57 am
I also am into second chances….To me it is beyond cruelty,his inner thinkings
February 4th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Russell had his lame aasss necklace of himself,…as well as the big one that says “chosen”,..it was embarrassing….and of course huge bracelets…he looks liek a fraud…its fine to wear that if youre a superstar player,..but he is awful and complete bust,..shouldnt have that look like hes Deion Sanders, a guy who can well that and look right wearing it.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Hall of Fame baseball player Ozzie Smith is from Mobile, AL
current football players Willie Anderson & Chris Samuels are from Mobile too.
Jimmy Buffett is from there. so is actor Orlando Jones
why on earth would JaMarcus Russell of all people be crowned King Elexis?
February 4th, 2010 at 11:58 am
I agree what Vick did was about as low as it gets,…I would cheer for him for 3 hours, then forget about him until the next game.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Damn…just realized something.
I was wrong.
I predicted Al would pick Wednesday as his day to announce/defuse/predict/deny something.
Wow….
I was wrong.
So this is what that feels like?
Bummer.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Thats what I postede b4 Bob….he acts like he has already earned it
February 4th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Russell equates being rich as succeeding,..it doesnt matter to him if hes won games or not,..its the money,..hes made it,..case closed,..hes a success, to him anyway,..weird logic but he feels because he got rich hes a superstar.
February 4th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Dang,..this Soma is the best,..might need to reregister to Soma Bob.
February 4th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Tebow hater in Jax.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Tebow-to-Jags-talk-isn-t-sitting-well-with-at-le?urn=ncaaf,217616
February 4th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Russell gets the royal treatment at Burger King.
thats all he cares about …
February 4th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Bob,
I found a few local jobs you might be quialifed for:
WINDOW cleaner-exp req, starts P/T, w/train for other duties, $10-$12 hr, 530-677-9035
NOW HIRING-companies desperately need employees to assemble products at home. No selling, any hrs. $500 wk potential. Info 1-985-646-1700 Dept. CA-7858
COOK-p/t, possibly f/t, multi-task, fast paced restaurant, eves, wknds, salary DOE, only exp’d apply! The Hemalayas, Cam. Pk, (530)903-9800
Good luck.
February 4th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
#46 Sad but TRUE….perfectly said Norco Bob
February 4th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Baa Raam You
February 4th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Tebow hater in Jax.
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Garrard is the starter there. they traded a draft pick to get Luke McCown from the Bucs to back him up.
Tebow would compete with McCown for the #2 spot. possibly even stick as a 3rd string QB until or unless he proves he can play with the big boys
February 4th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
4sure Rockstar….Let Tebow ride da pine like “other” great QB’s have.Whoever winds up with Tebow will be very happy with him,imo
February 4th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Bo, you didnt need to repost, I saw that already,..do you feel some sadness if a post of yours wasnt read?…dont worry about that with me Bo, nothing gets past me.
February 4th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
I wish that Warren Sapp and the Oakland Raiders would not be remembered together in the same sentence unless it was written or spoken as a negative. Al should have let Cincy have him and his big mouth.
February 4th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Bo, sadly though, Im not qualified for any of those positions you posted. Thanks for your concern though.
February 4th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
February 4th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
4eva: I think it would be interesting to see a Jackson vs. Rosenfels vs. Tebow competition in Minnesota …
February 4th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Hall of Fame baseball player Ozzie Smith is from Mobile, AL
current football players Willie Anderson & Chris Samuels are from Mobile too.
Jimmy Buffett is from there. so is actor Orlando Jones
why on earth would JaMarcus Russell of all people be crowned King Elexis?
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Maybe because he looked like a major doofus?
Seems to be one of those titles that you say “thanks..but..uh..cleaning out my garage that day”
February 4th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
what are the odds on King Elexis winning the carnival’s hotdog eating contest this year?
February 4th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
#2 paid to be the leader in the parade
February 4th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
RRS….Tebow reunited with Harvin is interesting,imo
February 4th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Bob,
I found a few local jobs you might be quialifed for:
WINDOW cleaner-exp req, starts P/T, w/train for other duties, $10-$12 hr, 530-677-9035
NOW HIRING-companies desperately need employees to assemble products at home. No selling, any hrs. $500 wk potential. Info 1-985-646-1700 Dept. CA-7858
COOK-p/t, possibly f/t, multi-task, fast paced restaurant, eves, wknds, salary DOE, only exp’d apply! The Hemalayas, Cam. Pk, (530)903-9800
Good luck.
February 4th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
BSJ, would you really want Bob cooking your food?
no offense Bobby, but nobody here knows where your hands have been…
February 4th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Lol,..Bo, you fell into old kells trap,…better be careful, folks in here will think you have a very limited intelligence.
hang in there bro.
February 4th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Hopefully the Jamarcus Russell Rule will be instituted and a rookie salary cap will be put into place.
February 4th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Rocker,..its ok, those are just jobs our old friend Bo was turned down for, hes just tryin to help me maybe get them,…but wouldnt have anything to wear to interview, so I wont waste my time.
February 4th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Norco Bob Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Lol,..Bo, you fell into old kells trap,…better be careful, folks in here will think you have a very limited intelligence.
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Too late.
February 4th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
When a person in here runs out of ideas, something at all to post, they have no other choice then to repost, or simply cut and paste something,..its why old kell gets ridiculed in here,..but hes an old guy,..unsure why Bo has run out of ideas,..maybe he should try harder.
February 4th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
February 4th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Try getting high Bo,..then all kinds of cool ideas will come to you!!…then the reposting and cutting and pasting wont be needed,…get high!
February 4th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Norco, please address the existence and voracity of your Alameda insider. You have not referenced this individual in a while.
February 4th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Well I need to finish watching the andy griffith show, then its my nap time,..cya later dear friends.
February 4th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Norco Bob Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Try getting high Bo,…
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1 hour 49 minutes…
February 4th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Yes I did Bo, you just werent paying attention,..but for you I will repeat,..my insider left the Raiders,..now works for the A`s.
February 4th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Bob: ever seen that movie dumb & dumber???
maybe you can be one of those guys who rubs suntan lotion on swimsuit models?
I doubt you’d have to dress to impress on that job interview.
February 4th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
my insider left the Raiders,..now works for the A`s
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and he said the A’s are going to trade for A-Rod, right?
February 4th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
No he never told me that,..and the A`s are not the Raiders, dont keep secrets, so no need for an insider there.
February 4th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
So now Jeff Garcia will be the starter for the A’s?
February 4th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Damn….I want that job
February 4th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Naptime,..hope this dang juice box doesnt keep me up,..take care friends.
February 4th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
nitey-nite Norco Bob
February 4th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Hue Jackson is here to salvage JaMarcus Russell, mold him into a quality NFL quarterback and hope it results in an offensive competency not seen in these parts for nearly a decade.
Ted Tollner and Paul Hackett, both with reputations as teachers, were brought in last year but couldn’t save JaMarcus. Sources close to both say the coaches were frustrated by Russell’s lack of commitment to maximize his obvious physical talent.
The hiring of Jackson is proof Raiders owner Al Davis wants a new play-caller — Jackson assumes the role from Cable, who presumably remains head coach. Moreover, Jackson’s arrival also seems to affirm Russell’s status as a Raider in 2010.
Raider Nation is, as it feared but suspected, stuck with JaMarcus for at least another year.
But Jackson takes an altogether different approach than that taken by Tollner and Hackett, both professorial men in their 60s. Jackson is a full generation younger, he’s charismatic and he forms personal relationships with members of his unit.
Jackson is as prepared and equipped as anyone to develop Russell, though there has been no detectable sign of change within JaMarcus; that postseason run to Las Vegas only served to further tarnish his apathetic image. Indeed, Jackson likely does — and should — represent Russell’s last chance to make it work in Oakland.
-Monte Poole
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Leave it to Jaunty Foole to dramatically state the blatantly obvious.
February 4th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
So Al Davis ordered Jeff George not to throw the ball to Tim Brown eh? Timmy better be careful opening his mouth about that b4 Tim loses his Raider card, and Al bans him from Raiderland. Al,,(I mean Mr. Davis) will have Tim Brown going into the Hall of Fame as a Denver Bronco if he doesnt watch his mouth. Al’s that crazy.
February 4th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Fix the O line please.
February 4th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Al,,(I mean Mr. Davis) will have Tim Brown going into the Hall of Fame as a Denver Bronco if he doesnt watch his mouth. Al’s that crazy.
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you mean Tampa Bay Buc?
Timmy never joined dungver late in his career. Jerry Rice did though
February 4th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Fix the O line please.
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through draft or free agency?
almost everybody on this blog thinks we’re going defense early in the draft
February 4th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
RR,,you’re right he did do a skid bid in Tampa Bay,,but he did sign an offer sheet with the Broncos back in the day & thats all Al Davis needs. You know how Old man Al is.
February 4th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Norc
If you can get to North Arizona, I will put you to work. We can cut and stack cords of mesquite untill the cows come home. I am talking hard work but big bucks.
All we have to do is wait till winter to sell. A cord goes for three hundred when it gets cold but just 100 in the spring/summer.
I have been making fishing lures and leadheads all winter long. Now I can fish in the morning and evening and cut wood all day. I might even teach you how to tie lures and make a nice leadhead if you share your hillbilly heroin with me.
February 4th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
If I were a HOF voter, Timma would not get my vote at this time.
February 4th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
Draft for trench warfare….
Improve the front 7 on D
Improve, and rebuild the oline from c rg rt
Do not draft “skill players”, “projects” or “40 times”
Draft football players….
February 4th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
# Richochet Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Being a dog lover, what Vick did is just above child abuse and rape..and all three should never be forgiven.
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Wow.
First off, you’re correct that all 3 reflect some of the lowest forms of humanity and should never be forgiven. I have a dog who would take a bullet in the head for me and I love him dearly.
But, you’re telling me that what Vick did is worse than rape & child abuse?
Are you serious???
Again, they’re all atrocious. But, I suppose we’ll agree to disagree on this one.
February 4th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Plunketthead….I used to live a ski-lodge.Chop wood all day long.Good work,imo
February 4th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Bo
I hear rumors of bigtime dirt/gravel/cement companies about to start huge operations here in AZ.
I dunno if its because the President is about to expand war operations in a megasized way or if he is gonna start some huge public work operations, but I think something big is about to break.
Any news about stuff in your field?
February 4th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
This draft is loaded with O-lineman,,however I believe we’re in a position to take the best linebacker in the draft in the 1st rnd. & still get a really good OT in the 2nd rnd & a OG in the 3rd rnd. which would all be instant upgrades. If Brandon Spikes was gauranteed to be there in rnd 2 when we pick then I would say go OT in rnd 1, but since he wont be there I think we need to snatch up McClain then fix the line with the next 2-3 picks.
February 4th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Boob, you here?
February 4th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Plunketthead Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Bo
I hear rumors of bigtime dirt/gravel/cement companies about to start huge operations here in AZ.
I dunno if its because the President is about to expand war operations in a megasized way or if he is gonna start some huge public work operations, but I think something big is about to break.
Any news about stuff in your field?
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Well, no frankly. But if we are supporting our Afghan/Iraqi war efforts by ramping up gravel and cement work in Arizona, then I would like to know more.
Maybe we are restaging the moon landings that we faked in 68? Now in hi-def?
February 4th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
68 was a good year, right Kell?
Al Davis drafted Eldridge Dickey. first black QB drafted in the 1st round
turned out to be a bust.
he later became a minister and I’m sure that was his true calling. Napolean Kaufman turned out to be a good man too
passed away in 2000 – RIP Dickey.
I’d still rather have Dickey & Kaufman in their primes than Russell & McFadden
February 4th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Its hard to believe that the moon landings were fake.
Whats even harder to believe is that we have not been able to go back.
IMHO the landings were faked or we have been there and back many times in crafts that are so secret the fedgov.con does not want us to know about it.
February 4th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Here is my question: Where is all of this physical talent that everyone talks about in Jamarcus Russell? Is it because he is tall and can throw a football far? To me he has very little physical talent, he is too big, too slow, has bumbling feet and no accuracy with throwing. The guy does not show great coordination, and he does not seem to have the motor or processing skills that the top qbs in the league have. Even those who are not enamored with qbs only b/c of their arm are too enamored with a big arm. Once again, being able to throw a football far does not equate to being physically gifted overall. I think even with commitment, and an all of a sudden turnaround in smarts, this guy still would not be a physically able quarterback. He’s just not.
February 4th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
I dunno what the gravel/cement stuff is about but I know for a fact they are snooping around for gravel pits/land or mountains to dismantle.
The usual mountain top is not enough for these guys. They want hundreds of acres.
February 4th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Sports Illustrated once described Dickey as having “a Johnny Unitas arm and Gale Sayers speed”
even then Al Davis had a need for speed!
February 4th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
And they want it close to existing railways.
Remember Warren Buffett took Berkshire Hathway in a different direction when they purchased BNSF for cash not long ago.
Somethings up, but I dunno what
February 4th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Plunketthead Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Its hard to believe that the moon landings were fake.
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What’s even harder to believe is that OJ Simpson was an astronaut…
http://www.cinemademerde.com/Capricorn_One-oj.gif
February 4th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Rail is being reborn Plunketthead….Soon LA and Vegas will be connected,lots of other places too.This might be it
February 4th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
RENTON, Wash. (AP) New Seattle Seahawks coach Pete Carroll has retained two assistants and added 18 new ones to his first staff.
The team confirmed Thursday that defensive coordinator Gus Bradley and defensive line coach Dan Quinn will return next season. Carroll had said Jeremy Bates is joining him from Southern Cal as his offensive coordinator.
Ken Norton Jr. is the new linebackers coach, Brian Schneider is coaching special teams, Alex Gibbs is the offensive line coach, Jedd Fisch is the quarterbacks coach, Sherman Smith is coaching running backs, Pat McPherson has tight ends and Jerry Gray is coaching defensive backs.
Seattle also announced: wide receivers coach Kippy Brown; assistant special teams coach Jeff Ulbrich;
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holy smokes! what a solid coaching staff!
February 4th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
the Bills are switching to a 3-4 defense.
Defensive tackle Marcus Stroud previously expressed concerns about how he would fit in a 3-4 scheme.
“I can’t play nose (tackle), but I could adapt to that. But I don’t want to,” Stroud said last month as Bills players cleaned out their lockers a day after closing the season with a 6-10 record.
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go after him Al!
Stroud was traded to the Buffalo Bills for 3rd and 5th round picks in March of 2008.
thats what we got in the Burgess trade.
February 4th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Wonder where that old lying sack of dirt, KrappyKell, is hiding out?
I haven’t been able to visit the blog in a few days to check on the old plagiarist, but I’m hoping he hasn’t been cut and pasting too many articles from Bleacher Report and then taking full credit for writing them.
There’s only two places that numskull can be:
1) The barbershop, getting his head dunked over and over in the comb sanitizer.
2) Switzerland, pricing appliances for the steam room in his new chalet.
But more likely he just took a big dump in his diaper and is running around his backyard chasing squirrels with his pants around his ankles.
Catch ‘em by the tail, Krap Krap! That way you don’t ruin the meat for eatin’ later!
February 4th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
Stroud & Seymour were teammates at Georgia.
He was a 3 time Pro Bowler in Jax. Didn’t do much in Buffalo the past 2 years. I’m sure his value didn’t rise at all. He’s just 2 years older and carries a fatter contract
cut Warren! paycut for Kelly! trade for Stroud!
February 4th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Wonder where that old lying sack of dirt, KrappyKell, is hiding out?
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probably on a different football blog trying to convince others that a 58 year old man that sells real estate in the bay area and travels often is the smartest man alive. that Al Davis is the root of all evil and that the white man is to blame for everything except his wife
February 4th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
No one in the NFL is without talent & that includes JaMarcus. JRs main issues are mental, but the problem is that it will translate into physical problems. He’s not a dummy,,but he has made dumb choices,,like not staying in shape,,not being more diligent in the film room & not stepping into the leadership role that is required in a Qb. You can chalk it up to being young & immature,,being comfortable with already having a mega-contract,,or the poisonous atmosphere of the Raiders. As disappointed I was in JR,,Im really hoping he gets his sh*t together with the help of Baby Huey. Lose 35lbs. study the playbook like its the Holy Bible,, throw 100 passes to D-Bey everyday & do whatever needs to be done to earn the trust of his teammates. Then maybe we’ll win a few more games & he’ll earn some respect in the lockerroom & from the fans. Winning cures everything.
February 4th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Troll Beecham, how ya doin? I just had a bowel movement, do you want to come over and bag it?
February 4th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
how to solve an awful run defense…
1. trade the burgess picks for Stroud
2. draft MLB McClain
3. let Morrisson, Howard, Brown & Scott compete for 2 OLB spots.
4. cut Warren (if nobody else wants him, re-sign him for the vet minimum)
5. paycut for Kelly (starter money, but not Top 10 DT money!) he may not even be Top 25 DT talent
February 4th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
# Richochet Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Being a dog lover, what Vick did is just above child abuse and rape..and all three should never be forgiven.
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Wow.
First off, you’re correct that all 3 reflect some of the lowest forms of humanity and should never be forgiven. I have a dog who would take a bullet in the head for me and I love him dearly.
But, you’re telling me that what Vick did is worse than rape & child abuse?
Are you serious???
Again, they’re all atrocious. But, I suppose we’ll agree to disagree on this one.
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Didn’t say worse..I say it’s just above.
IMO..if you rape a woman, huevos should be cut off.
Abuse a child? Hands and huevos should be cut off.
Abuse a dog like Vick did? Slap a can of Alpo on his huevos, and let a pack of pit’s go at it.
February 4th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
I have this funny feeling that Hue Jackson is gonna take guys like McFadden, Bush, Heyward-Bey, Murphy, Schilens & Higgins to new heights. Maybe even Myers
Miller is already a star
yet somehow Russell to continue down the same path and he’ll be back on the bench before long…
February 4th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
4eva
If its for public works, its more likely for windmill/solar plants and transmission lines.
We are too far east and the wrong side of the coloriver for the LA/Vegas partytrain.
LA/Vegas train is one of the few that might be able to make it without gov funding like Amtrak.
February 4th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
We missed out on Rey Maualuga last year,,I hope we dont miss out with McClain. We can still get a tremendous O-line upgrade in the 2nd & early 3rd rnd.
February 4th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Moon landing conspiracy theories?
I love this talk
reminds me of a book I read called “chariots of the gods”
weird stuff. Unexplained. Not saying I beleive everything
but it’s always good to ask questions
February 4th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
See, Krappy – I knew it! You gotta give me props for knowing your every move. That is so cool!
Anyway, Krappy, was I right also about the visit to the barbershop or the trip to your Swiss chalet?
Tell me the truth, you old goat (meaning the opposite of what you do when you plagiarize articles from Bleacher Report) – I’m feeling hot!
February 4th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Norco bob is correct bout mike vick.
Cheer for him on Sundays when he plays QB for your team.
That’s it. That’s all.
That is my view on vick and ALL athletes in sports.
As well as actors in movies. We don’t know them personally
Just entertain me for my money. That’s what I pay for.
February 4th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
There’s only three places that numskull can be:
1) The barbershop, getting his head dunked over and over in the comb sanitizer.
2) Switzerland, pricing appliances for the steam room in his new chalet.
3) Trying on Lederhosen at Oaklands finest German S&M accessory shop.
February 4th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Troll Beecham,
How do you expect the guy who engineered the 29-83, to get us out of the 29-83?
February 4th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
couldn’t agree more with Mack-Madden’s comment regarding Vick
February 4th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Plunkethead
You’re Trying on Lederhosen at Oaklands finest German S&M accessory shop? wow.
February 4th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.
The correct use of the term requires the elements of obstinacy, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing devotion.
February 4th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
RENTON, Wash. (AP) New Seattle Seahawks coach Pete Carroll has retained two assistants and added 18 new ones to his first staff.
The team confirmed Thursday that defensive coordinator Gus Bradley and defensive line coach Dan Quinn will return next season. Carroll had said Jeremy Bates is joining him from Southern Cal as his offensive coordinator.
Ken Norton Jr. is the new linebackers coach, Brian Schneider is coaching special teams, Alex Gibbs is the offensive line coach, Jedd Fisch is the quarterbacks coach, Sherman Smith is coaching running backs, Pat McPherson has tight ends and Jerry Gray is coaching defensive backs.
Seattle also announced: wide receivers coach Kippy Brown; assistant special teams coach Jeff Ulbrich;
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holy smokes! what a solid coaching staff!
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WAIT!!!..
What are you saying??
Are you saying the HEAD COACH HIRED THE ASSTS??
is this done?
A head coach….picking his staff???
Wow.
What a concept.
February 4th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Krappy, tell you what I’ll do – and I’m only considering this because I’m getting so freakin’ pumped about Baja –
If I engage in a serious, in depth discourse with you on the topic of improving the Raider’s on field performance, you MUST promise to never again post the Raider’s win / loss record over the past 7 years.
And no, you sneaky little derelict, that does not mean you can post their record from the past 6 or 4 or whatever years.
It means you can NEVER, EVER post their record from the past again.
The ball, as they say, is in your court, Krappy.
February 4th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Troll Beecham,
How do you expect the guy who engineered the 29-83, to get us out of the 29-83?
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If he is solely responsible for the above record then he is solely responsible for the three Lombardi trophies. Thus, he is qualified to lead a rebound for the franchise.
A mature person must take the good with the bad. You however, can stew in your disgust.
February 4th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Bo
So NFL Record losing streaks are alright with you?
February 4th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Ricky,
you mean Tom Cable didn’t get on his moped and recruit Jackson & Waufle this offseason? I’m shocked!
next you’re gonna tell me that Heyward-Bey & Mitchell weren’t that high on Tom Cable’s draft board …
February 4th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Nostalgia is the mother of fanaticism. In adulthood as in youth, in lean years as in fat—we root for the home team because rooting for the home team is what we’ve always done, and because what we’ve always done is the essence of who we’ve always been. The catch, alas, is that heroes in the rearview mirror are rarely as mighty as they appear. Lifelong Raider lovers will argue that Davis is responsible for the organization’s historical grandeur. I’d counter that he’s no less culpable for its contemporary gloom.
Decline is bad.
Stagnation is worse.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/330081-al-davis-the-real-problem-with-oakland-raiders-fans
February 4th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
once again u all are not thinking…javier arenas isnt even that good. had a great defense around him .. raiders should always focus on linebackers and dlinemen 1st
February 4th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Is this the greatest hip hop song in history or am I just a white fuddy duddy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxtbIGDuuiY&feature=related
February 4th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Arenas isn’t even that good, lol.
Yeah, because being All-American 1st team and the NCAA’s all-time leader in kick return for TD’s doesn’t mean anything.
You guys with this, he isn’t fast enough, he is only 5′9 nonsense. What are you Al Davis? The guy kicks ass on the field with pads on, not at combines in tights.
Isn’t that we want, football players not track stars?
February 4th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Satan
Serious question that I have been asking long before you called MR a limp wristed 5 tshirt wearing dorc.
Why are young men wearing 3 or 4 tshirts at a time.
I knew a guy who would turn his inside out before he wrenched on his bike or truck so he would look clean but I dont understand the 4 shirt thing
February 4th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Javier Arenas = Alphonso Smith in the pros …
February 4th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Some things are bigger than football….
Say ,oh, like Mans best friend….
Maybe it would be good for vick to come to Oakland,as I am sure there are waay bigger and badder dudes out there that would just “love” to “talk” to vick.
Wanna go for a walk, Mikey?
February 4th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
football players, not track stars.
Vegas, thats why I think Tebow will earn his keep for whatever team drafts him.
Plus he will outwork/study everyone else but Jesus.
February 4th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
No way Plunky – you are the coolest hip hop broham this side of Kool Mo Dee.
Dude, do you realize we are going to be tearing up Papas n Beer every night to Tone Loc? Besides our good looks, the best way to bring home tanned, horny senoritas to our hotel suites is with the funky cold medina.
By the way, I started buying Magnum condoms at Costco this week for the trip and my 2-car garage is almost full.
That’s going to leave very little room for the boxes of Brazilian bronzing tanning lotion.
February 4th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Alphonso Smith doesn’t return kicks.
The only question is if Arenas can be a starting corner, just a nickle corner, or really not a corner.
His kick-return game is tangible and will keep him getting a NFL paycheck for years.
February 4th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Alphonso Smith doesn’t return kicks
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he returned kicks & punts for denver last year (rookie season)
February 4th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
# mack-madden Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Norco bob is correct bout mike vick.
Cheer for him on Sundays when he plays QB for your team.
That’s it. That’s all.
That is my view on vick and ALL athletes in sports.
As well as actors in movies. We don’t know them personally
Just entertain me for my money. That’s what I pay for.
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BULL****.
Hypocrisy at it’s worst.
Yeah…ENTERTAINMENT $.
Means you decide on your entertainment choices.
Giving someone who does something like Vick did, a pass for 3 hours, because YOU’RE ENTERTAINED, is bull.
February 4th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
10 punts returns, 4 kick returns
then Smith got pulled…
7 tackles in his rookie season
yippee!
February 4th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
He returned 10 punts for 47 yards and 4 kickoffs at an 18.8 ypr.
Like I said, Alphonso Smith doesn’t return kicks…..
February 4th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
you’d be amazed at the number of Raider fans who would forgive Mike Vick if he came to Oakland and took us to the playoffs
PETA doesn’t belong at football games anymore than tree huggers IMO…
February 4th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
You wont need any magnums if we have to spend all time fighting jealous Mexicans.
When the senoritas catch a glimpse of KK in his lederhosen he will get mauled.
That leaves you, me, Norc and Dakota to fight all the Sanchos whose women are throwing themselves at KK.
February 4th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
5pm in Podunk. later gents
February 4th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
So just wait Rockstar, no need beating the Javier Arenas debate to death in February.
If he is on the Raiders, you will be a huge fan. If he lands on one of the teams in our division, he will be a pain in our side.
February 4th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Wow….I have loved the Oakland Raiders sinse I was 6….If Big Al signed vick….I prolly lose interest in football altogether
February 4th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Troll Beecham,
How do you expect the guy who engineered the 29-83, to get us out of the 29-83?
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
If he is solely responsible for the above record then he is solely responsible for the three Lombardi trophies. Thus, he is qualified to lead a rebound for the franchise.
A mature person must take the good with the bad. You however, can stew in your disgust.
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Doesn’t work out that way.
All things equal? Sure..but they’re not equal.
How could they be?
During ALL OF THE SB WINS, they’re were people in the organization doing the job Al is doing now…as GM.
Whether it be Wolfe or Allen, others made the choices that ultimately resulted in winning it all.
Now Al is making the choices, STRICTLY ON HIS OWN.
As well, Al’s in his 80’s..and taking on a full time GM job…PART TIME..if that.
is it possible Al is at the top of his game in his 80’s, as he was in his 40’s and 50’s? Of course not.
Because someone was a great race driver doesn’t mean he’ll continue to be the same in his 80’s…or a chess champion..whatever.
Babe Ruth did the same thing…just hung on…and hung on…and became a pathetic figure..refusing to let go…just like Al is.
No one could tell Ruth that.
No one can tell Al that.
Doesn’t change the fact that Al’s tenure as GM, since 2002, has been the absolute worst in the NFL for the period.
February 4th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Vick would make a decent backup to Grads, only because he is better then JR
But Vick wont be leading any team to the playoffs, let alone us. His best days are behind him and without his faster then everyone else speed, he is just another wannabee
February 4th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
5pm in Podunk. later gents
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Man, Rockstar don’t mess around, 5 o’clock, and not a minute later, and he is gone.
If I was podunk, I wouldn’t so pleased.
February 4th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Don’t worry home skillet, we’ll have Charged Down for Super Bowl Agony’s band of teenage emo wannabees sipping Shirley Temples near the pool.
When things get heated with the locals over stealing their mamacitas, we’ll just point them in Charged Down’s direction.
By the time they realize they’ve beaten the crap out of the wrong group of gringos, we’ll be high tailing it to Rosarito with their younger sisters.
Which reminds me – I forgot to instruct Brian the Genital to bring a 7 day supply of Cool Whip.
February 4th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
well. the 5 tshirt thing is sumtin these younguns picked up from 1 another and keep passin along . like when they wear jeans + basketball shorts + boxers everyday. it makes the lil skinny dudes feel like the look buff .they should just wear a wife beater / a tshirt . then their main shirt .
February 4th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Richochet Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Babe Ruth did the same thing…just hung on…and hung on…and became a pathetic figure..refusing to let go…just like Al is.
No one could tell Ruth that.
No one can tell Al that.
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Right before Ruth retired from the Braves and baseball, he hit 3 home runs in one game, and one of them was the only home run to be hit out of whatever field he was in.
Al should have one last hurray in him. Let’s hope that wasn’t 7 years ago.
February 4th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Racko, how come MJ’s Doctor is NEGOTIONING by his Lawyers,for the Doc to come in? Arrest his butt now! What is in the water out there?
February 4th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Rich Gannon, fires another broadside at King Ex-Lax Russell, and a jab or two at crazy Al. Over at D. White’s sfgate blog..
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/index
February 4th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Thanks
I figured this must be it.
it makes the lil skinny dudes feel like the look buff
February 4th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Jerry Rice down plays how good he was and lets others say how good he was. Tim Brown tells anyone who will listen how good he was.
The dude knowing he has a hard time jumping over Reed and Carter come out and knocks his team in the hopes he can draw on the negitive PR the Raiders have had these past 7 years and people will vote him in.
Man up and stop the crying Timmy. Never could stand a punk trying to act like a man and this dude has always been a cry baby.
February 4th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
“Whereas the 49ers customarily introduce high draft picks within a day or two, as they did with Michael Crabtree last April, the Raiders typically keep their new talent behind a curtain. Guess who wins those news cycles?
With their approach in recent years and over the past month, it’s as if the Raiders go out of their way to promote against their own interests.”
-Monte Poole
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Counterproductive, for petty ego.
February 4th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Post 158-909, This blog has said this for months, you think Gannon is eavesdropping?
February 4th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
MJ risked death every day for over 25 years by doing way too much of the best drugs money could buy.
Hey doc, Lets buy one of those machines that they use in the operating room so you can inject the most potent drug known to modern science in my collapsed veins.
Yes sir, I wanna get high
February 4th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Plunk, honestly, Really?
February 4th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
My thoughts were he had the hypo-chamber to infuse his body with oxygen to prolong his life, not destroy it. He was a musical genius, something went wrong, probably when Dad Joe took supreme control of the Jackson 5, He’s a pissant!
February 4th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Krappy, I knew you’d prefer to run and hide behind your wife’s swing set in the backyard then take me up on a real man’s bet.
It really confirms what an old, deranged cowardly plagiarist you are and how you find it easier to cry in your oatmeal then face the truth.
Anyway, Krappy, I’m still your pal till the end, so I’ll keep giving you helpful instruction, but you’ll eventually have to become a grown up before you can make positive changes in your otherwise meaningless life.
Now get outside for your afternoon hose off, you wacky old goat!
February 4th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
Yes 860
He had to purchase a special machine to administer the stuff that knocks you out for many hours. That is supposed to be what killed him but they will have a hard time proving it because there was so much other drugs in him.
MJ took drugs to sleep, drugs to wake up and drugs to stay high all day long.
February 4th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
860 sure….Keith Richard has all his bad dope infested blood taken out and he got the $$$$$$$ to buy BRAND NEW BLOOD….40 years of doing the best drugs and he still look good and can play hard….A modern day Dracula,if you will
February 4th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Troll Beecham
Do you work in a nursing facility?
February 4th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Krappy, I don’t, but I would GLADLY help you look around to find the right facility for your needs.
Obviously location is important, because I’m sure you still would still like to be able to stroll down to the barbershop or grab a snack at Arby’s.
But we also have to find one that will offer you the personal, day to day assistance you deserve – and require.
But tell me – what particular features are YOU looking for in a nursing home?
February 4th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Winehouse is already on the Keith Richards blood-infusion special.
February 4th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
she prolly get a price break too…ya know?
February 4th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
KK
Theres only one way to stop the daily beatings you recieve here
February 4th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Plunketthead Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
KK
Theres only one way to stop the daily beatings you recieve here
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Yeah, if the Raiders Start to Win.
Otherwise, I’ll be at his lackeys disposal.
February 4th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Seems like they’ve got the KoolKell watch.
February 4th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Richochet
it might be BULL.
I’m not gonna confirm or deny that.
But I still love the lethal weapon movies even tho Mel Gibson “seems” to be a jerk.
I still like kramer in them old seinfeld episodes even tho he “seems” to be a jerk.
What people do in thier personal is unknown.
If I look at the entertainment aspect then I’m satisfied.
But when I get deep into them as individuals then I may get a migrane
I’ll continue to save myself from the headaches.
February 4th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Yeah, that watch is a remarkable time piece.
The numbers are all wrong and the alarm is constantly going off for no reason.
February 4th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Senior Beeecham Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Yeah, that watch is a remarkable time piece.
The numbers are all wrong and the alarm is constantly going off for no reason.
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No, I meant the KoolKell duty, the KoolKell shift. People who’ve done some things call it the watch.
Carry on.
February 4th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
The KrappyKell doody is what you squirt into your tighty whities 7 times a day.
The KrappyKell shift is when you sit on one butt cheek to avoid smashing the doody deeper into aforementioned tighty whities.
Am I missing something?
February 4th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Jamarcus is doing about as much with his natural talents as Amy Winehouse.
Who will get it together first, or will either? Just made a captain and coke and threw in the Back to Black album. At least she can hang her hat on this, what can Jamarcus hang his hat on? The Sugar Bowl?
February 4th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Lmao.
February 4th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Yep she does sound real good
February 4th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
she aught to do a cd with Keith….soulfull voice and some bluesy guitar….yeah
February 4th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
That would be frkn nice 4eva!!!!
February 4th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
KoolKell has his own paparazzi…
Your are the Lindsay Lohan of the Jerry Mac blog, Kool. Congrats!!!!
February 4th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
4evaRaider Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Yep she does sound real good
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When sailing the seas with the captain, a few trips to the garage for our meds and not much sounds better to me.
I listened to this album nonstop for awhile when I first got it.
February 4th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Vegas
Yes, the burdens of fame, ahhaaaaa.
February 4th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Krappy, I can make you this promise – when we get to Baja, I’m going to give you a big hug and buy you a virgin margarita, my friend.
Then I’m going to hook you up with a foxy Latina temptress who will teach you a new meaning of the term “No Mas!”
February 4th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Beecham, no one is buying the Baja thing. Stick to booboo jokes.
February 4th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
No thanks Beech, I just got back from Cancun.
February 4th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
That’s fine, Vegas. But think about how you’re going to feel when we’re getting down with super hot spanish sluts while you’re puking in the Cheetah’s bathroom.
The time to get your application in is now, pal. Or you’ll only be able to longingly gaze upon pictures of Krappy’s nude kayak exhibition on Photobucket.
February 4th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Krappy, you blind fossil, everyone knows Cancun is the armpit of Mexico. I’d rather vacation at the Day’s Inn in Fresno than visit that rat hole.
Besides, I’ve got your seat on the Party Bus reserved – right between the orange cooler full of Hawaiian Punch and the sack of onions.
February 4th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Well my dear friends, that was a great nap, but did miss the ending of the andy griffith show,.hey heading to Tahoe in a bit, take my advice if goin to Mont Bleu, (Cal-Neva sports book),…bet it all on the over,..56.5,…that bet will be paid off prior to 4th quarter,…word.
February 4th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Puking at Cheetah’s, lol.
I always bust you up about that, I lived with a Cheetah girl for over a year.
Been there done that. But I will definately check out the pics.
February 4th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Playa del Carmen, actually.
February 4th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
By the way I got awesome news the other day from my ticket rep,…after years of trying,..I finally got my seats in row 1 of the NEZ!!!…check me and brian next season,…the NEZ now belongs to us!
February 4th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
hI Old Kell!!!…how ya doin old buddy!?,,,by the way, chron live starting now,.Gannon on!
February 4th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
That brandi chastain is one ugly chick,..looks like a man actually….I think old kell has much bigger and softer boobs.
February 4th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Changing of the KoolKell watch at 5pm?
February 4th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Old Kell,..you outta hang with me at pebble,..walk around getting drunk,..sneak off to the beach for a toke,..you in bro?
February 4th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
No Tiger this yeat at the clam bake,..and that dude needs to hook up with me and get high,..if anyone needs a toke its Tiger!
February 4th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Old kell, put on Chron live,..Gannon about to bash old Al!..that ought to give you a hard on,..as long as theres some viagra around!!!
February 4th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Boob
You’re inviting me to Pebble, Beech’s inviting me to Baja, what’s up?
February 4th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
Boob
You really follow the local talking heads, don’t cha?
February 4th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
I call all the shows too old buddy….Gary…Damon…Grant…Koz…and national shows like JT…Colin Cowheard,..I dont have a job, alot of time on my hands…
February 4th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
Pebble is great,..they usually dont let white trash like me on the course,..the clam bakes my only time I get there,..I love walking the course getting drunk and stoned,…all of Jerrys followers should meet there next week.
February 4th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
What happened to your cushy computer installation government job you tried to tell me about a year ago?
February 4th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Well,..sadly that was all in my imagination,..I havent had a job for a long time,…
…I play the lotto alot though, so,..theres hope! 
February 4th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Some dude in Texas won the mega the other day,..150 million,…damn.
February 4th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
The surprises keep on rolling in don’t they? JerryMc slacks. Timmy talks. Al plays the mystery card.
And there are stray boulders in el desierto Atacama which exhibit by mineral decay as a result of cosmic ray bombardment emission levels of helium3 revealing a complete dearth of rain for 23 million years.
Something to strive for. Patience.
February 4th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
OK than…..well, better luck next time
February 4th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Bobbo? You heard the “cry wolf” story?
Copping to the fact you make up outlandish stories pretty much ensures everything you say is bogus, or at least gives everyone the impressions you’re just a blowhard.
I suspect that’s the plan
February 4th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Well Gannon kept it real,..its as clear to him as it is to us,..Russell doesnt care at all about being great,..or even being good,..doesnt care,..Mike Vick please.
February 4th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Ok,..if these fans think Im a blowhard, Im fine with that,..all good.
February 4th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Old kell…um,..let me get this strait,..you actually worry about what people in this blog think about you?…lol…seriously? damn.
February 4th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
Re-sign Bruce!!!!
I would give him 2 years 5.5 million.
February 4th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Hey the IGROW Superstore in Oakland just made the Factor!!!
February 4th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
What a trip, trying to teach my wifes parrott to say …get off the fu…. phone and he finally says it what a trip…………….
February 4th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Yes,..give Bruce a nice 2-3 year deal,..he deserves it….but I still think Vick would work,..has something to prove.
February 4th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
The truth is that if you listen to Mountain Jam continually then everything appears much much better.
God Bless Duane, Jaimoe, Butch, Barry, Dickie and Gregg for that.
February 4th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Well this Soma has hit me,…I will try and hook up you wonderful people later….
February 4th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
# vegas raider Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Hey the IGROW Superstore in Oakland just made the Factor!!!
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See what I started?
I’m a trend in the making.
February 4th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
These two quotes taken 14 years apart illustrate the institutional dysfunction, that’s clearly not been addressed:
On how he led the Raiders: “When I came to Oakland in 1999, I didn’t sign up to be the team jerk but I was taken aback by the things I was seeing. Guys being late to meetings, guys missing practices. Sometimes, something had to be said. … You’re never going to have 53 guys committed. But if you have 45 or 48, you’re gonna beat the team that has 25. When I first got to Oakland, I would say we were batting about .500. Over a course of time, we brought in players like a Jerry Rice or a Rod Woodson or a Tracy Armstrong and we were starting to head into the right direction.” -Rich Gannon
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/detail?blogid=11&entry_id=56626#readmore#ixzz0ec8excsF
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Some players showed disregard for authority. In one ugly incident, which occurred a few days before the Raiders’ 34-21 loss to the Cowboys on Nov. 19, defensive end Anthony Smith attacked his position coach, Floyd Peters, after Peters questioned his play during a meeting. Witnesses say the 6′3″, 265-pound Smith knocked the 60-year-old Peters to the ground while other players and coaches watched. Yet Smith started against Dallas, which disgusted many of his teammates.
“The problem with the Raiders is there’s no accountability,” says one prominent veteran. “People say Al Davis is too involved. Hell, I think he should get more involved, if that’s what it would take.” Last season Davis spent less time around the players and coaches than he had in previous years, but he remained the Raiders’ absolute authority figure.
Mike Silver S.I. 1996
February 4th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
Um, old kell,…we know youve used that SI article dozens of times already,..that quote is the same one you keep posting,..what makes that pasted article different today then when you posted it last week?…wtf?
February 4th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
That one of the team’s all-time greats, Hall of Famer Willie Brown, announced his retirement not during a news conference but while sitting in his SUV suggests a level of negligence that is downright shameful.
Such self-crippling methods may not hurt good teams that play before sellout home crowds, but they’re suicide for a losing team with retreating fans. Like the Raiders.
The Raiders can continue to operate this way only if they’ve gotten comfortable with their descent into irrelevancy, have lost interest in bonding with the community and are completely dismissive of the unsold tickets that led to seven TV blackouts.
-Monte Poole
February 4th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Old kell,..blackouts dont matter to mr davis,..and certainly not to me, Im at every game! hahaha
February 4th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
I wonder if silver or poole ever quote you old kell…lol
February 4th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Bob
Al Davis has responsibilities, you don’t. Big difference.
February 4th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Responsibilities?…what are they?
February 4th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Iv told you, blackouts, Old Al doesnt care about that, nor should he,..he cant force folks to buy tickets, its up to the fans,…I buy them, but thats my choice, just like other fans have the choice not to,..all good.
February 4th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Im not sure why blackouts should matter to anyone,..Iv heard a fan say, the game is blacked out!..I cant see the game!!!…I told him what the facts were, you CAN see the game, go buy a ticket, go enjoy the game,…you arent being stopped from watching the game,…nobody misses seeing a game that wants to see it,…if the game isnt on tv, and you chose not to go see it,…well I dont see what you have to complain about.
February 4th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Personally, I love it when the games are blacked out.
February 4th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
And I would be very upset if the Raiders ever bought any tickets to lift the blackouts,…alot of teams do it, thank God the Raiders dont,..nor should they.
February 4th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
Bob
I know you’re not very business oriented. But, the fans pay the freight for pro sports.
I’m not complaining about blackouts. I reference blackouts to illustrate the lack of esteem in which the fans hold Al Davis’ management. Comphrende?
February 4th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Old kell,.esteem?…I dont know of anyone that holds that mgmt in any esteem….I personally dont give a fig about team owners, gm`s,…lawyers,..thats not why I follow sports,..I go to the games bud,…when Im there Al Davis never crosses my mind.
February 4th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Right Bob. I know you’re not very smart.
February 4th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
On ESPN INsider:
Raiders go with Bush in 2010?
4:42
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Michael Bush | Raiders Top Email
While we’re still not 100 percent convinced that Tom Cable will be back as head coach of the Oakland Raiders in 2010, we have begun to hear some buzz on how the roster is going to take shape (false Nnamdi Asomugha to the Jets rumors aside). One of the more interesting battles will be at running back, and AFC West blogger Bill Williamson opined in a chat on Thursday that Michael Bush might end up being the alpha dog.
Bush is a beast at 245 pounds, but has yet to have a breakout campaign in the NFL: he was the Raiders’ leading rusher in 2009, but only had 589 yards on 123 carries, and three TDs. Of course, both Justin Fargas and Darren McFadden also had more than 100 carries so maybe that’s the fundamental problem. We can’t recommend the fantasy football owners in the audience stay far enough away from this situation.
February 4th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
Smart?…maybe not,..but I know better then to obsess over a pro sports team owner,..you havent mastered that yet,…you need to worry less about Al Davis,..because he doesnt care about you, doesnt know you exist.
February 4th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
What do you think of my new twitter pic?
http://img2.pict.com/d2/5d/ad/2742569/0/womangun.jpg
February 4th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
vegas raider Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
Re-sign Bruce!!!!
I would give him 2 years 5.5 million
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Vegas,
There is no big market for Bruce Gradkowski. Only Raider fan thinks this guy is any good.
You can get him for the league minimum. Trust me, this is the only place in the league he has a good shot of starting. He will play for anything
February 4th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
24,
Michael Bush should have been getting most of the carries from day 1. People around here, including Cable, had to invent reasons for him to play behind pedestrian running backs like DMBust and Fargas.
Bush should run and run and run and take a break when needed. He’s the 15 to 20 carry back.
You can COUNT on San Diego making another play for Bush after they cut Tomlinson. I just hope Davis/Cable isn’t stupid enough to trade Bush and keep the backups (McFadden & Fargas)
We will lose with DMAC & Fargas getting even half of the carries
February 4th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
KoolKell,
Dysfunction Junction is the place where both Al Davis’ arm-wrestling with history and your beleaguered harping on the recent past collide.
Perhaps if you recede, Al will as well.
You have the power to move on. Allow him to also.
February 4th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
jerrymc. u are the worst blog writer since pee wee hermans SELF SEX BLOG IN THE 90S
February 4th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
“Dysfunction Junction. How do you expect a guy who got us into 29-83, to get us out of it?????????”
Because he’s the same guy who got us to 5 Super Bowls and won 3 of them.
Granted, he’s 80 yrs. old and senile, but still…
February 4th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
NORCO BOB. U LOST ALL FOOTBALL KNOWLEDGE VALIDITY WHEN U SAID RAIDERS SHOULD GO AFTER MIKE VICK
February 4th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
the nicest way to say F$ck off is not to say it at all.
February 4th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
white people were so dazzled by mike vicks runnin around that yall didnt realize that he was a crappy quarterback. i personally would commit suicide if the raiders sign vick. u must realize he isnt that fast any more. plus hes a dumb , black, thuggish , lazy , innacurate show off .
February 4th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
youd think as old as kool kell is , hed see beyond the last 7 years in raider football .. kell do u even remember disco music ? yur badge number during the civil war ?
February 4th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
“the nicest way to say F$ck off is not to say it at all.”
That’s what Al Davis does and everybody hates him for it.
Personally, I could care less if Al doesn’t care about me (as some posters like to frequently point out).
Way I see it, I still love Deniro as an actor, and he could care less about me too. Mick Jagger doesn’t know I exist, and maybe wouldn’t even like me if he did, but I’ll still listen to the old Stones records and would still buy tickets to see them.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
I never said I had football knowledge satan.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
satan, why ya gotta keep bringing up white people?….so no blacks were dazzled by vick?…just honkeys?
February 4th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
I think vick was a pretty damned good qb,..sure as heck alot better then what he have now.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
That’s what I like about ole Norco Bob………non-pretencious
February 4th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
As much as I wish Al Davis would give up the ship and just go away, he is, has, and will be ( for awhile at least) the face of the Oakland Raiders.
I have to admit, it would still be thrill to meet the guy in person. I’d get more of a kick out of that than meeting the president. Of course the thought would flash through my mind that NOW is my chance to take him out..permanently, but I’d probably think better of it and offer to change his diapers instead out of respect.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
I would fold under the pressure of being in the presence of such greatness. Than kick myself afterwords for not stabbing him.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
TJ,..iM CALLIN gARY DURING THE Bruno segment,…will give you a shout out.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Al loves me, he loves me not, he loves me, he loves me not….
February 4th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Johnny,…Im unsure why theres some in here even bother with fretting over old Al,…nothing will ever come of it,..old kell, hes the typical fanatic,..cant see past Al Davis to even enjoy the damn football game,…sucks for him I guess.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
By the way TJ,..did you here the great news my ticket rep laid on me?…Im now in row 1 of the NEZ,…took several years but I finally got it,…awesome.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
I disagree SnB, any level of success by a QB in Oakland, will be valued in the market. Everyone in the league knows how dysfunctional Oakland is, Bruce strung together a few good games against good competition, and would get a more than the league minimum.
Oakland should give him a slightly above-market deal. Bruce will work his azz off to prove the team did right by him. Lord knows we spend way more money on much worse.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
I can’t help but think Al has something cooking in that old, twisted, mind of his, and he’s gonna announce a major signing that will give us all hope. That’ always what I liked about him; he never tries to rebuild, just re-load. It may not be sound football decision making, but at least it makes it fun.
I don’t find the losing fun, but we have to remember, as shocking as this is, it was only 7 yrs. ago the Raiders were in the darn Super Bowl.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Mr Davis is just doing what he thinks he needs to do to make the team better. Yes he’sdoing it his way something most in here would love deny him. But at least he’s givingit all he’s got. I have to respect that. No one can gaurantee you anything and as soon as they say they can…….I immediately tune them out.
A new GM would just be a new GM nothing more. With just as much ability to screw it up as anyone else. I’m looking forward to see what color Hue brings to the Raiders.
Anyone notice trhat Gannon never answered any questions about what took him so long to become a good NFL QB? when he asked about the year he was outof the league he totally evaded the question about how long it takes a QB to develope in this league.
IMO unlees we can get Vick I’d just as soon rest my hpes on Russell than the rest of those jokers. I just can’t get behind a season of Bruce Gradkowski or Charlie Frye. Just to go 7-9 yahoooo 2 more wins just 10 more years and they’ll get us there. Garbage.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Yeah I’ll try to listen Bob.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Djhonny,
for some da Raiduhs is like der children. for some da Raiduhs is like der parents. for some da Raiduhs is like der deity.
it is love. it is respect. it is tradition.
for some da Raiduhs don’ win enough in recent times. for some da Raiduhs don’ look like the other girls. for some da Raiduhs don’ walk like udder corporations.
grrr, spit, hate.
allisasitis, uhum, next.
RaiderOn.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
TJ,..Russell is getting your support and doesnt deserve it,…Russell would be just as happy to be out of the league, so he can have a good time, not have to break a sweat,..answer to people,..hes doesnt want to put in the effort, because he doesnt care enough,..at least those “jokers” care.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
BHP,
glad you’re here to walk the walk and to say what is to be said.
Gracias.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
As far as al davis goes,..bfd,..I dont waste my time trippin on what hes doing,…I follow this crap for the sports, not the owners,..anyone who wastes their time flippin out and losing sleep over what the owner is up to is clueless.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
But old kell is obsessed over al davis for other reasons, really has nothing to do with the wins and losses,..old kell is jealous of al davis because davis is an owner,..old kell cant figure why he never got to be one,…so he hourly pops off on davis, but hes getting nowhere,..al davis will always own the team, and old kell will never own one, and be jealous forever….sucks for old kell, he needs to find something else to obsess over.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Not even al davis can upset me anymore,…Im now in row 1 of the NEZ,…and I will NEVER give those seats up,..NEVER!!!
February 4th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
After reading the scouting report on Jamarcus before he was drafted, he sounds like the perfect QB for the Raiders. I have been on him big time inregard his work ethic (or lack thereof) in addition to his poor play, but…if he could get such rave reviews from the ‘experts’ who analyzed him up and down and sideways, then you have to think there IS that QB in there somewhere.
I really hope there is.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Not even al davis can upset me anymore,…Im now in row 1 of the NEZ,…and I will NEVER give those seats up,..NEVER!!!
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Front row? Pretty sweet.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Just wanna hear some opinion, would anyone be happy if AL signs Larry Foote to replace Morrison?
February 4th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
then again they said a lot of great things about Ryan Leaf too…
Like him or not, looks like he may get one last chance. As a Raider fan, I hope he succeeds.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
I didn’t like the guy who replaced Morrison. The Doors were never the same after that.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
M
thanxx buddy…I know it aint popular but that is not why I say it. I believe it… No ones perfect and Russell has some serious warts. But one year doessn’t make a career or guy’s like Gannon and Young would never have made it. They said tons of things about Steve Young in Tampa. They said Walsh was making a huge mistake getting him and for 4 years it appeared they were right.
Over the next 2 years if you’re right Bob he’ll be out of the league if you’re wrong we could be set for 12 years at that position. So which would be best for the Raiders?
February 4th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Thats right Bush,…Iv been down there close for years,..but got row 1 a couple days ago,..cant believe it,..I can reach down and almost touch the back line of the endzone.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
The Bills had a punter on the all-decade team, and the Bills just had a fullback.
With six players, the Raiders must have had a dynasty…
…until they traded Gruden.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
I want mike vick TJ,…Im done with Russell.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
I hope the raiders get both Merriman and LT from the bolts once then both get released.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
I’m from the Midwest and remember going to see the Raiders and Bears at Soldier Field back in 1979? Raiders won in OT 25-19. Anyway, this yr. I plan on fulfilling a dream and actually fly to Oakland to see a Raider game and sit in the ‘Black Hole’. Is it hard to get tickets to that section? Lets say against the Chiefs or something?
February 4th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
priest people act like russell has no ability and that he doesnt understand how to play. i believe he doesnt show pople he cares enuff and he also has struggled with his confidence but is too stubborn or apathetic to admit it. he does need to earn everyones respect and i hope he comes out strong cuz the organiztion is set back if he isnt up to it. vick should definately be a target for us cuz grads and frye aint it.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Bob, you’re done with hm based on what you’ve seen to this point. But his career is not done. So we’ll see…If he’s not up to I want Vick as well but if we ca’t get him I’m not at all interested in Bruce Grads.
We need someone to lift this organization, hopefully that’s Hue…we’ll see..
February 4th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Armond, my sentiments precisely.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Im only done with russell because all his teammates are…hes a total bust,…time to move on,…if its not Vick then guess Gradkowski is our best bet,..he played pretty damn good if you ask me.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
djohnnyg Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
After reading the scouting report on Jamarcus before he was drafted, he sounds like the perfect QB for the Raiders. I have been on him big time inregard his work ethic (or lack thereof) in addition to his poor play, but…if he could get such rave reviews from the ‘experts’ who analyzed him up and down and sideways, then you have to think there IS that QB in there somewhere.
I really hope there is.
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That’s the thing about drafting a player. The fans can watch a player in college, see what he does at the combine, and read a scouting magazine. That’ s basically all we can do to learn about a player.
The NFL teams can hire private investigators, hold interviews, do physicals, and really get to know everything about a player. Or that’s what they should do.
Sometimes they choose to overlook the red flags and take the player inspite of the warning signs. Ryan Leaf showed up at the combine interviews with a hangover. The biggest job interview of his life and he reeks of booze. The Chargers decided to overlook that and took him anyway. Bad move.
I’m sure the Raider scouts warned Al of JaMarcus’s work ethic, or DHB’s bad hands, but Al took them anyway.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
# Raiders4eve Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Just wanna hear some opinion, would anyone be happy if AL signs Larry Foote to replace Morrison?
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Foote is an ILB in a 3/4 so he might not transfer to Morrisons position quite so easily. + he is 9 years in the league. I am always of the belief that 10 years for an ILB in the NFL is punishment enough. So even if he could transfer and really played well for us, we would most likely have to look for someone else in a year or two anyway. Better off going with McClain in the draft if he was there.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Norco Bob,
There has to be someone other than Vick, he’s just not a good QB. Fun to watch on highlight films, but just not a good QB.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Norco Bob, what teammates have you talked to?
February 4th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
why didnt grads succeed in tampa or frye in cleveland? gannon is a chump cuz if he wants to help russell then he should go to him privately. he makes a big fuss when he has made harsh comments publicly and has acted as if he is above the organization yet these dummies in here want al davis to do what he says. well who has had a better track record, al davis or rich gannon? al davis won 3 superbowls gannon hasnt.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
# Raiders4eve Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Just wanna hear some opinion, would anyone be happy if AL signs Larry Foote to replace Morrison?
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I agree with Seymour Bush, 9 years playing ILB, then trying to switch, would be tough. Bring in some fresh legs.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
FU TJ,..I watch all the shows,..I seen Chaz flat out say “no comment” when he was asked about how Russell played after Baltimore game. I dont need to talk to them you mother f`r…its clear, the head coach,….players,..now finally the owner sick of his punk aasss…you are the very last one TJ,..and I will tell all this to Gary tomorrow.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Why not ask the steelers and bengals, two good teams, what they think of gradkowski?…bet they would saythey wished russell was playing in those games,..russell is a complete bust, will go down in history as the biggest bust ever,..when the rookie salary cap is installed it will always be referred to as the jamarcus russell rule. period…FU TJ you are a complete dork for supporting Russell.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Armond, these guy’s in here are further proof that people listen and believe what they choose to. Gannon was a washout before he got here. He got benched in KC for grbac even after he got the queefs to the playoffs they didn’t think enough about him to keep. That’s how we got him. Now all of a sudden he’s a QB guru. lol
People are sheep man they’ll believe anything as long as it’s inline with their preconceaved ideas. What QB has this guy made better name one? Yet Al Davis is supposed to bow to this fool. Sports writers are worse than fans they don’t have a freakin’clue.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
and for all russell haters i am very disgusted with russell cuz he shouldnt have these questions about him. if he put in the work there is no way yall would want another qb. he makes me sick with the ho hum attitude and being out of shape. when he was slimmer in high school he was just as mobile and maybe faster than grads along with his unmatched skillset. we dont see it now cuz he doesnt train as hard and he sickens me with that.we need a talented veteran qb here in more ways than one for him and the team.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
armond Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
why didnt grads succeed in tampa or frye in cleveland?
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Name one Q that Jon Gruden developed. And don’t say Rich Gannon. Gannon was already a veteran player and was 5-2 as a starter in KC before he came here. Frye kind of got a raw deal in Cleveland. He played fairly decently for them, and then struggled the lst quarter against Pittsburgh. They yanked him put in Derek Anderson who went to the pro bowl that year. Bye bye Charlie Frye.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Vick wont be a Raider I can guarantee that. He has plenty of other options, the Bills are interested in him and are far better offense then the Raiders. Maybe Cardinals he would have plenty of weapons or even the Rams, Panthers or even Seattle. If I am him why would I jeopardize my career coming to a team with no number 1 receiver or even number 2 receiver (I dont care what you guys think about Murphy or Schillens, they wouldnt be what you call number 1 receivers in this league). Only way Vick comes here if AL opens his pay check and drops 20 mill signing bonus. Other then that, with Dungy already telling him not to sign with the Raiders, why would he come here? No offensive line, no running game, DHB a starter, this offense is struggling.
To be honest, I think Grad is the solution. If we fix our OL and begin to run the ball, our QB needs to be accurate on third downs, Grad can deliver and he can run. I think we should move on with him and see where we stand in trading deadline.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Eve,..you cant guaruntee anything.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Eve,..I must say its nice to have a female in here posting,…where you live Eve?
February 4th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
You can say whatever you wish Bob, but I talk to players and staff and they aint nearly as frustrated with Russell as the media says they are. Sure they think he’s behind schedule and want him to do better. But just like anyne in a family setting when one is percieved to be holding them back they don’t like it. And they say it but they certainly haven’t given up on him. Hell most of them need to do what’s being said about him…………get better. They don’t have room to talk. Unless they”ve been to 3-4 probowls themselves.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
armond Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
and for all russell haters i am very disgusted with russell cuz he shouldnt have these questions about him. if he put in the work there is no way yall would want another qb.
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I don’t know, Armond, Raider fan didn’t want Josh McCown and lambasted him before he ever played a down here. In their lst game together with Kiffin, McCown completed his lst six passes. When the seventh pass fell incomplete, Raider fan booed him to scorn. No one is going to succeed in that atmosphere.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
priest there are valid reasons to be sick of russell but i want whats best for the organization. u cannot run a team based on personal feelings to be successful.if he screws up this year its DONE. why not see what happens but also have a viable backup plan in the works? notice how nobody talks about him being in arizona to train like jhill says?
February 4th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
armond,
Totally agree.
Fans would be a lot more forgiving of JaMarcus if he looked like he was really making an effort. People could forgive him if he was dumb or untalented, but when he comes across like he’s more interesting in partying, than staying awake for meetings? That’s what p!ssus people off.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
if yall ever say another thing about vick im jumpin in my neighbors backyard nude and wrestle with those 2 pit bulls. yall wanna be responsible 4 dat ?
February 4th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Ok TJ,..guess what, Im calling gary first thing in the morning,..and will devote my entire call to tell him what a shyt4brains you are,..and Gary will let me go on and on, because he agrees,..I suggest you do not listen tomorrow buddy,..Im goin hardcore dude,..no holds barred. be warned.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Not that Russell should be forgiven for not putting the work in. Fans should be pissed about that.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Ya thats right Im pissed at him, and now that Im in row 1,..if that slug is still a raider next season, he will hear it from me.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
This is what legit scouts are saying about Russel. Here is what went wrong with JR.
“He has zero awareness within the pocket and that internal clock that tells a passer when to get rid of the ball is either broken or does not exist with him. Instead of knowing where each and every one of his targets is going to make the break in their route, he is often staring them down waiting for it to take place. He then releases the ball, if he is not already on his back, and hopes his arm strength will make up for the late release. In college that can work but the speed of the NFL defenses and the amount of preparation the players dive into prior to each game makes that possibility nearly non-existent. Those are rookie mistakes and they are still being made in year three.”
“A professional athlete is paid to keep himself in peak physical condition and it is fair to say Russell has only gone south in terms of his work ethic when it comes to his body since being drafted. That only begins the criticism of his lack of dedication to being the best. Listen to what coaches and team officials say in regard to the preparation habits of the Manning brothers. They rave about the mornings where they are there before the coaches and the nights they are there after the cleaning crews to watch film. They talk about their dedication to the backup receivers after practice where they spend an hour going over the route tree with them over and over again. What do we hear about Russell? Being a quarterback is a 9-5 job to him where he tries to get home early on some days. He is often asking his teammates which route they’re supposed to run on a given play. There is a reason so many quarterbacks have that ‘C’ on their jersey that stands for captain. They are supposed to be the leaders on and off the field. The Raiders are at the bottom of the barrel right now in the NFL and it is not a coincidence that Russell is one of their so called leaders. The passion is not there. The work ethic is not there. And several of his teammates are following.”
“Russell has not done everything in his power to lead the Raiders back to glory. When the work ethic isn’t there in the weight room, on the practice field, or in the film room, let alone all three, progress will not be made in this league no matter how far you can throw a football from one knee. Everyone in the NFL has an abundance of talent. The ones that look to improve themselves on a daily basis happen to be the ones that succeed. That is not a coincidence, it is a direct correlation. Until Russell realizes that, he will either be the signal caller of a bad football team or even worse, on the sidelines with a great seat watching NFL football week in and week out.”
http://www.newerascouting.com/10/what-went-wrong-jamarcus-russell/
February 4th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
None of the players are going to openly say bad stuff about JaMarcus. No one is dumb enough to publicly bad mouth the owner’s pet.
Besides, they don’t have to say anything. It’s already in every arcticle about the guy. Everyone has reported on his work ethic, and that he’s not picking up the offence. The players don’t have to risk their own necks to get the word out.
If everyone knows the problems with JaMarcus, the players don’t have to mention it. It’s obvious.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
can’t wait for tuesday’s press conference.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
understood seymour but i guess i should say the smart ones wouldnt. the issue with russell isnt talent its his desire to be great and to do something about it. its a huge concern but not a talent issue.if he comes in prepared i dont believe its a contest. the scouting report on him also said his lsu coaches were patient and it finally paid off, end of story. lets hope with the same happens here.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
# priesttj Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
You can say whatever you wish Bob, but I talk to players and staff and they aint nearly as frustrated with Russell as the media says they are. Sure they think he’s behind schedule and want him to do better. But just like anyne in a family setting when one is percieved to be holding them back they don’t like it. And they say it but they certainly haven’t given up on him. Hell most of them need to do what’s being said about him…………get better. They don’t have room to talk. Unless they”ve been to 3-4 probowls themselves.
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Priesttj is right about this. There is NO ONE on that entire roster, that should be saying ANYTHING about any other player. NO ONE. In fact, in the Philly game, Asoumagha goes out for the entire game and we win. Against Cinncy, Seymour goes out early for the entire game, and we win. Even the more “established” players have NO room to talk about anyone. Now, that being said, Russell needs to take his job much more seriously.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
Theres no press conference tuesday…or any other time this offseason.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
Funny as hell that you clowns ACTUALLY believe the drunken fool Priest that he talks to players.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
al’s going to bust out the whipping stick on everybody at his next press conference.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
# armond Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
understood seymour but i guess i should say the smart ones wouldnt. the issue with russell isnt talent its his desire to be great and to do something about it. its a huge concern but not a talent issue.if he comes in prepared i dont believe its a contest. the scouting report on him also said his lsu coaches were patient and it finally paid off, end of story. lets hope with the same happens here.
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I think the issue with Jamarcus Russell is the game has just come SO EASY for this guy at EVERY level to this point. You watch him through his career and he probably didn’t have to do ANYTHING, and he excelled. Well, that doesn’t work against paid professionals that have studied their craft for 5-10 years and take EXTREME pleasure in beating your ASS. He has to wake up and realize that guys like Brees and Brady and Manning work their asses off to be successful. You have to at this level. You can’t just roll out of the rack and mail it in. It shows.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Priest is in for it,..tomorrow,..Im talkin to Gary,..about him,…its on. tomorrow buddy, I hope you listen.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Bob
Nah man, I aint no female, I am a brother from da 510. I just wanted a nick raiders4eva and it turned out that it was taken so switched to raiders4eve. Figure deal me bro.
Norco Bob Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Eve,..I must say its nice to have a female in here posting,…where you live Eve?
February 4th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
People worry about JaMarcus’ weight. To me, that’s not the make or break issue. Roethlisberger looks a little pudgy around the middle.
Madden used to say he would gain weight during the season because he would spend so much time studying film, and eating while he did. The more time you are awake, the more time to eat.
If JaMarcus got the gut from watching too much game film, I’d be happy.
But I don’t think that’s the case.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
priesttj Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Armond, these guy’s in here are further proof that people listen and believe what they choose to.
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That’s right.
We do.
YOU DON’T.
Your sorry insecure ass blindly does as you’re told.
Blindly support whoever you are told to support.
We question when things go wrong..your sorry inept ass makes excuses for every little thing that goes wrong.
It’s never your “hero’s” fault..it’s always someone else.
This has nothing to do with the fact you’re an uneducated clod.
It’s all about you being a fool.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Yeah, guys who show up in shape after bustin their ass all offseason the prepare themselves have NOTHING to say to Fat Boy Russell.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Norco Bob Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Priest is in for it,..tomorrow,..Im talkin to Gary,..about him,…its on. tomorrow buddy, I hope you listen.
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when and where does that air? I’d love to listen.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
yes alot of these players have work to do themselves. morrison still makes rookie mistakes and he’s been a starter from day 1.thomas howard these non blockin azz lineman and so on. there is a bunch of people who have taken to this losing culture well before #2 was drafted.mario henderson had his passion and work effort questioned up until this season but he turned it around. huff aso gallery made that jump the 4th year of their career. its time for russell to do the same or he will be gone.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
they’ll be at least 2 press conferences this offseason, both will be over key aquisitions and al will remind everybody about the mystique and the greatness of the raiders.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Can’t really disagree with that assessment in #307. Sad, but true. He should not be on the field. At this point, he is going to be the highest paid “fan” of all time.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
Armond I can name a thousand players that similar things were saiid about them. Before they were great players literally thousands of them. The same thing was said about Huff. Tim Brown was a bust. Jerry Rice was a reach and a mistake. Nnamdi was a complete reach and was considered a bust. So was Gallery. OJ Simpson was a complete BUST!! So was Lincoln Kennedy before he got here.
My point is the chance that a high pick would look like a bust early in his career is very high. Most of them look like nust early in their careers.
Don’t believe me pick the last ten players in the top ten in the last ten years. Chris Long in St Louis looks like a bust doesn’t he. Cris Carter was a HUGE bust early in his career.
Most of them do.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
done deal 4 sure. out!
February 4th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
knbr 680,..I will call about 9:30
February 4th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
The key problem with JR is what this scout said about him and if he doesnt change this habit he will remain a bust.
“He has zero awareness within the pocket and that internal clock that tells a passer when to get rid of the ball is either broken or does not exist with him. Instead of knowing where each and every one of his targets is going to make the break in their route, he is often staring them down waiting for it to take place. He then releases the ball, if he is not already on his back, and hopes his arm strength will make up for the late release. In college that can work but the speed of the NFL defenses and the amount of preparation the players dive into prior to each game makes that possibility nearly non-existent. Those are rookie mistakes and they are still being made in year three.”
February 4th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
# NorthernD Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
If JaMarcus got the gut from watching too much game film, I’d be happy.
But I don’t think that’s the case.
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Hitting 20 volcano taco’s while playing Madden, contrary to what JR believes, isn’t studying football.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
knbr 680,..I will call about 9:30
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This should be high-larious.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
knbr 680,..I will call about 9:30
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Just set my DVR…
Make it memorable, Bobbo
February 4th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
Priesttj
How can JR improve his internal clock, he needs to work with his receivers know exactly when are they gonna break their routes and not over throw them. JR kills his recievers, how many times we seen RBs or TE or WR thrown to him high and a CB throwing the hummer on their back? He is not accurate. Can he fix it? Yes, but needs to work with his weapons all summer.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
Oakglen? You are a marvel of science…I will give you that.
Walking upright without a spine…truly amazing.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Raiders4eve, Steve Young was still making those same mistakes in year 6. Rich Gannon didn’t stop making those mistakes until year 8. Look at every young QB and he’s still making those mistakes.
You guy’s just don’t get it. That kid has started 27 games and IMHO it takes until somewhere between 30 – 50 starts before a QB really starts to get it. It’s just the nature of that position…………period
February 4th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
# raideredoutL.A. Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
they’ll be at least 2 press conferences this offseason, both will be over key aquisitions and al will remind everybody about the mystique and the greatness of the raiders.
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Of COURSE their will be.
Hey? For fun…why don’t you remind us of the last 3 years “off season acquisitions” that reminded everyone about the mystique and greatness of the raiders?
For some odd reason, I can’t think of any.
Can you?
February 4th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
Phil Simms, was in the league 5-6 years before he started to play well yes soem were injured but it still took him until he was 27-8 years old before he looked like anything.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
I’ve seen this story a thousand times.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Priest your a lying dillusional drunk. Shut your face before I shut it for you.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
He throws the ball extremely well to ZMiller and players he has confidence in.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Jamrcus Russell is fat and dumb. Not exactly the recipe for NFL QB success.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
# Raiders4eve Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
Priesttj
How can JR improve his internal clock, he needs to work with his receivers know exactly when are they gonna break their routes and not over throw them. JR kills his recievers, how many times we seen RBs or TE or WR thrown to him high and a CB throwing the hummer on their back? He is not accurate. Can he fix it? Yes, but needs to work with his weapons all summer.
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Players have to adjust to the speed of the NFL game. Russell really has not adjusted quite to that point but he will. Russell also has a couple of mechanical issues that hopefully can be fixed. If you watch him, he holds the ball really really low. Most Q’s have the ball tucked right under their chin straps. Watch Manning and Brees in the Super Bowl. Russell holds the ball down and then winds up to throw. In college, that would work because of the strength of his arm. That doesn’t work at this level. DB’s are too fast and too smart at this level.
In the last game of the season against Baltimore if you watch the tape, you can see exactly what I am talking about. Russell is holding the rock higher, (thanks to Paul Hackett) and he is looking off defenders. Then, the bad habits start coming back. He holds the rock to low, he holds the ball too long, he gets stripped, they pounce, the fans boo. Bad cycle.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
He throws the ball extremely well to the players he has confidence in?? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even for Priest thats stupid.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
# priesttj Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
He throws the ball extremely well to ZMiller and players he has confidence in.
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AND WE HAVE A WINNER.
Dumbest comment of the Decade.
Hands down.
PERIOD. lol…
Geez…you’re such a freaking moron.
You crap for brains fool…he hits the TE because usually the TE drifts out, and he can throw it without having to worry about TOUCH..just rifles it in (which only bad qb’s do)
When it comes down to leading a receiver? Throwing in traffic? Hitting someone on a deep route?
Man is the worst in THE LEAGUE.
Here’s my guarantee…the day the Raiders dump JR’s fatass will be the day TJ says “I’m LEAVING”.
Oh wait…that doesn’t work.
TJ has already stated 4 times he’s “LEAVING, AND NEVER COMING BACK’
well, hell…so did Seymour/Oakglen…except he did it 6 times.
Difference is TJ comes back as TJ.
Seymour/Oakglen always gets a new handle.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
Priesttj
We are no longer in the Phil Simms or Steve Young era. The game has changed and it favors the QB. A simple touch to the WRs can be called pass int against the defense, a QB is well protected in this new era, we are also seeing yojng QBs succeeding like Rivers, Eli, Rogers, Schaub, Big Ben, etc. The idea that it takes more then 30 to 50 games to evaluate a QB is no longer implemented. Lets be realistic, watch the game film Russel needs alot of work, he needs to be benched just like Vince Young was benched and if he cant win in this league he should get cut. The Raiders dont have 5 years to wait for this guy, its a win now league.
February 4th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
Let me explain my comment. When he knows that a particular player will get to the ball in the window in which he wants to throw he is accurate most of the time unless he’s late in that procession. Then it looks like he’s inaccurate but it’s really a ball thrown too late.
Also at the top of a route if he doesn’t believe a guy is going to get to his spot in the route he tries to compensate for the WR lack of route running. The passing game is precise timming and when yong players don’t have timing it’s not just the QB being inaccurate it is the passing game lacks timing.
I know most wont agree nor understand this but in most cases it’s both players not knowing enough about each other for it to work. That is when the coach(HC) has t pul back and scale back the offense in order for it be more efficient. What I didn’t like about Cable is he blamed all of this on Russell. That IMO was grounds for firing. He wanted Russell t take the fall for his record knowing that all the fans and the media would buy into it. He threw that kid under the bus because he didn’t know how to manage the offense…………period
February 4th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
priest i agree with everything u said which is why im not panicking. russell is going to frustrate me more if he dont get it 2gether this year. btw watchin more video of gerhart we gotta take him in the 3rd if available. i like gilyard alot too.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
Raiders4eve, are you serious?? they said the same thing about Eli Manning just a couple of years ago in mid season they wanted to run him and the coach out of town the year they won the SB.
Don’t give me this new ear crap……get a freakin’ clue. Most QB including Drew Brees took about 40 starts to start to play well. Look it up.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
What you guys think of MLB D’Qwell Jackson, I think he is a free agent that can help right away. I know he was injured last season but the season before that he was competing with Patrick Willis in most tackles.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
I’m listening to Rich Gannon preach his crap again what a POC he is. Acting like he did everything right and Russell is doing nothing right. Who better this early in their Career Russell or him? Rich SUCKED!! his first 5 years.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
Priesttj
How long it took Big Ben or Rivers?
Roger or Schaub
What do you want me to look for in Eli’s number?
Season Team G QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD Int
2005-06 NY 16 75.9 294 557 52.8 3762 235.1 6.8 24 17
2006-07 NY 16 77.0 301 522 57.7 3244 202.8 6.2 24 18
2007-08 NY 16 73.9 297 529 56.1 3336 208.5 6.3 23 20
2008-09 NY 16 86.4 289 479 60.3 3238 202.4 6.8 21 10
Compare it to JR
2008-09 Oakland 15 77.1 198 368 53.8 2423 161.5 6.6 13 8
2009-10 Oakland 12 50.0 120 246 48.8 1287 107.3 5.2 3 11
Eli was consistent ever since his second year, JR second and third year will never compare to Eli’s number.
What comparison are you stating that I am missing???
February 4th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
Armond, Gerhardt is an absolute beast man. That kid would make us so much better the velocity that he runs with is devastating.
I like Gilyard as well but I think we may have a guy like him in Nick Miller. We will get another WR I gaurantee you.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
The disappointing thing with Russell is how much he regressed this year. His lst year he was raw but decent and then improved thru out that year. Sure there were ups and downs, but there always is with young players. This year was mostly straight down. That’s just not good.
Bringing in Hue Jackson might not be a bad idea tho. Sometimes older guys just have a harder time relating to these young kids. Maybe bringing in Jackson will help.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
all this talk of teams not having 5-6 years is stupid. why give out a 6 year deal instead of a 3 year deal if thats all u want to give. the rules of the game dont change just cuz the times do. too many of u believe in this modern era football crap as if players all develope overnight. alot of u wanted chris long and vernon gholston but what are they doing? steve young is a douche. that dude was innacurate for years and people talked of him being a better rb than qb.if u cant be taught or learn accuracy how the hell did he improve his completion pct? they dont have accuracy drills for nothin.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
yo tj,Im with you on JRuss,sortof.Seems to me,hes throwing his ownself under the BUS,thats the PROBLEM! I hope coaching along with personal pride will be the answer.(yea,a reach,I know)Now,TJ,we will disagree on the GM,or lack of.Where is the GM? Oh, you will say Al doesnt need one,every thing is under control,bs,bs, The Raiders have lost for seven years and counting,whats been MISSING every year? A GM GM Lets hire one,see what HAPPENS
February 4th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
# Raiders4eve Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
What comparison are you stating that I am missing???
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One thing is you are comparing him to a Manning, in these stats. lst off, the Mannings have been around Pro football their entire lives, and know more about reading coverages and tendencies than most coaches. Also remember that the Giants traded up to get Manning and were a 10 win team two years before Manning got there.
I always think you need to compare overall number one Q’s to overall number one Q’s. In other words, look at Matt Stafford, Alex Smith and guys like that for a comparison.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
Look at the number of int’s in his 3rd year. Eli struggled until his 4th year. Forget the total stats but did he play well late in games. Was he the reason they won or did they win despite him. IMO 20 int’s says it all. Elway threw 22 int’s his 2nd year but he made big plays. Eli still gets into some bad habits mechanics wise when he’s under pressure. So does drew Brees when he’s getting hit. It’s very easy for a commentator to criticise a guy out there taking a beating when he’s in the press box.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
Don’t be surprised if Russell isn’t spending his money like crazy and gambling it away in Vegas thinking he’s got an eternal supply of it and think there’s gonna much more on the way. First off, he’s not gonna get ANY endorsement money with his bad rep as not caring and lack of commitment; not too mention his worst in the league passing numbers.
Secondly, he may be banking on another big payday when it comes time; but guess what? That time may never come. This is it for him! If he doesn’t get it together and start taking this NFL thing seriously, there will be no more big pay days for him. 30 million dollars can go fast if you don’t invest and spend wisely and overdo it.
He strikes me as a the kind of guy who is way to cocky for his own good and has not backed up any of his Vegas swagger on the football field.
Somebody better tell him THIS IS IT!
February 4th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
Just ask former lottery numbers who are now bankrupt if that money doesn’t go pretty fast when you’re not watching it.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
I meant “winners” not “numbers”. Woops.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
Priesttj
I think we are misunderstanding each other, let me clarify myself to you. You stated that a QB needs 30-50 starts before someone should throw a judgement on him. I stated that the that mentality has changed and we are in a new era as example of Eli, River, Roger, Shaub, Big Ben, etc.
Now, you replied look at Eli’s number and I posted it, his numbers is good at the time he had less then 30 starts. So I am lost bro, Why do you need 30-50 when young guys nowadays are showing it in 24 starts?
February 4th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Seymour, I’ll be the 1st to say he regressed now I had the entire year to see him. But I attribute some of that to 2 bad WR’s and most to him not being ttally focused throughout the offseason. Russell bares a lot of the blame but the organization bares some as well.
My point again is fans always want a quick fix to everything establiahing a young QB in you organization will normally take 5 years average. It just does……..period Same with DMcNabb he took 5 years and some. that’s just the way it is with that position.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
I get that some of the great QB’s started off slow and then emerged, but in Russells case, how many chances do you think anybody is gonna give him?
If he fails again this year, what NFL team would take a chance with him? Or give him anything more than the league minimum?
February 4th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
I can’t believe you guys are seriously arguing about JusFkdus Russell.
This will be his last year in the NFL if he even makes it to the season. HIS AZZ BETTER BE PRAYING HE DOESN’T SUSTAIN AN INJURY DURING CAMP BECAUSE THAT WILL BE IT!
I hope the Raiders draft Dan LeFevour
February 4th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
steve young
1985 TAM 5 72 138 52.2 935 6.8 3 59 8 56.9
1986 TAM 14 195 363 53.7 2282 6.3 8 46 13 65.5
1987 SFO 8 37 69 53.6 570 8.3 10 50 0 120.8
1988 SFO 11 54 101 53.5 680 6.7 3 73 3 72.2
troy aikman
1989 DAL 11 155 293 52.9 1749 6.0 9 75 18 55.7
1990 DAL 15 226 399 56.6 2579 6.5 11 61 18 66.6
1991 DAL 12 237 363 65.3 2754 7.6 11 61 10 86.7
1992 DAL 16 302 473 63.8 3445 7.3 23 87 14 89.5
john elway
1983 DEN 11 123 259 47.5 1663 6.4 7 49 14 54.9
1984 DEN 15 214 380 56.3 2598 6.8 18 73 15 76.8
1985 DEN 16 327 605 54.1 3891 6.4 22 65 23 70.2
1986 DEN 16 280 504 55.6 3485 6.9 19 53 13 79.0
rich gannon
1987 MIN 4 2 6 33.3 18 3.0 0 12 1 2.8
1988 MIN 3 7 15 46.7 90 6.0 0 19 0 66.0
1990 MIN 14 182 349 52.1 2278 6.5 16 78 16 68.9
1991 MIN 15 211 354 59.6 2166 6.1 12 50 6 81.5
phil simms
1979 NYG 12 134 265 50.6 1743 6.6 13 61 14 66.0
1980 NYG 13 193 402 48.0 2321 5.8 15 58 19 58.9
1981 NYG 10 172 316 54.4 2031 6.4 11 80 9 74.0
1983 NYG 2 7 13 53.8 130 10.0 0 36 1 56.6
this is a sample of qbs who struggled up to their 3rd or 4th year before they got it going. as u can see mr qb guru gannon looked like complete sh!t. i believe he can help russell but to act like he is this qb god is as ridiculous as alot of u thinking every top college qb plays great right away.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
djohnnyg Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
Just ask former lottery numbers who are now bankrupt if that money doesn’t go pretty fast when you’re not watching it.
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60% of lottery winners lose all of the money within two years. I couldn’t believe it when I heard that number.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
These two quotes taken 14 years apart illustrate the institutional dysfunction, that’s clearly not been addressed:
On how he led the Raiders: “When I came to Oakland in 1999, I didn’t sign up to be the team jerk but I was taken aback by the things I was seeing. Guys being late to meetings, guys missing practices. Sometimes, something had to be said. … You’re never going to have 53 guys committed. But if you have 45 or 48, you’re gonna beat the team that has 25. When I first got to Oakland, I would say we were batting about .500. Over a course of time, we brought in players like a Jerry Rice or a Rod Woodson or a Tracy Armstrong and we were starting to head into the right direction.” -Rich Gannon
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/detail?blogid=11&entry_id=56626#readmore#ixzz0ec8excsF
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Some players showed disregard for authority. In one ugly incident, which occurred a few days before the Raiders’ 34-21 loss to the Cowboys on Nov. 19, defensive end Anthony Smith attacked his position coach, Floyd Peters, after Peters questioned his play during a meeting. Witnesses say the 6′3″, 265-pound Smith knocked the 60-year-old Peters to the ground while other players and coaches watched. Yet Smith started against Dallas, which disgusted many of his teammates.
“The problem with the Raiders is there’s no accountability,” says one prominent veteran. “People say Al Davis is too involved. Hell, I think he should get more involved, if that’s what it would take.”
Last season Davis spent less time around the players and coaches than he had in previous years, but he remained the Raiders’ absolute authority figure.
Mike Silver S.I. 1996
February 4th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
Does Russell have to prove himself this year, or does he get another full year as the leagues worst QB? At what point do people say it ain’t gonna work with Russell?
Does everyone agree that HE MUST show alot of improvement right out of the gate this coming season or his career is basically done in the NFL? Just curious.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
You look at some of the young Q’s that were drafted recently. Alex Smith was benched for years. Vince Young was benched. Matt Leinert still hasn’t seen the field regularly. And you look at some of the other players: Mario Williams was widely regarded as an overall number one bust, until he went to the pro bowl the last two years. Reggie Bush hasn’t been quite what everyone expected as an overall number two. Vernon Davis was benched and considered a complete bust until this year. Sometimes guys need a little time for the light to go on
February 4th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
mcnabb was critcized for running too much and espn broke down plenty of his errant throws to wide open wrs early in his carrer. also u notice how alot of high rnd qbs struggle when they go to bad teams. young inexperienced or bad wrs/oline poor coaching and mismanagement by the organization. its a process which is russell has got to be more prepared. he also isnt in vegas he is in arizona working with a trainer. we’ll see how it goes from here.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
Raiders4eve, it’s simple man you’re looking at stats which tell you very little. If you watch the guy play the stats start to mean a lot more.
You showed me Eli’s stats not getting that he threw 20 int’s his 3rd year that says he’s not reading and throwing with confidence and efficiency that a QB should. Now in his 4th year after 40 starts his int’s went way down and the TD’s stayed the same. Which indicates maturity. That’s what I’m talking about the ability to manage the offense with a minimum of mistakes. Which means he gets it now. That occured in his 4th season.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
Thanks Norther D, and the next lottery ticket Russell wins he’s gonna have to earn. Is he gonna do it?
Not to sound like a racial crack, but how much rope should he be granted?
February 4th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
Priest,
Then you are saying that THIS is the year for Russell?
February 4th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
Comparing those QB’s to JaMarcus is almost funny.
Young, Aikman, Elway and Simms were highly touted new QB’s who struggled, but they were never talked about as being players who didn’t work hard. None of them were bashed for not trying like JaMarcus is. They struggled to put up numbers.
They didn’t blame other teammates, or go partying in Vegas. (maybe Steve Young did)
JaMarcus thinks he can just walk through the door and win.
Not an effin chance.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
djohnnyg Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
Does Russell have to prove himself this year, or does he get another full year as the leagues worst QB? At what point do people say it ain’t gonna work with Russell?
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The thing is if we have an overall number one that fails, it will set back this franchise another four years. If this guy can develop, we could have a top rated Q for the next 10 years, so it is imperative that this guy develops. That being said, to answer you question, Russell MUST SHOW CONSISTENT IMPROVEMENT all 2010 for us to keep going.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Yes OakGlen, you’ve made the same point for the last 2 years..
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# Seymour Bush Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
You look at some of the young Q’s that were drafted recently. Alex Smith was benched for years. Vince Young was benched. Matt Leinert still hasn’t seen the field regularly. And you look at some of the other players: Mario Williams was widely regarded as an overall number one bust, until he went to the pro bowl the last two years. Reggie Bush hasn’t been quite what everyone expected as an overall number two. Vernon Davis was benched and considered a complete bust until this year. Sometimes guys need a little time for the light to go on
February 4th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
seymour i also believe guys need to be challenged by the right person. its no coincidence davis and smith had their best year with singletary running the show. they had their manhood in question and had to prove themselves all over. vernon davis was humiliated getting sent to the lockerroom and his teammates questioned him. hell nolan actually thought smiths shoulder injury was bogus. the 9ers have the right guy to lead them and it just so happens their 2 biggests busts had a good year. maybe hue jackson can be that for russell and the whole offense.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
djohnnyg, you are the sucker of the night for talking to tj.
Congrats, go to the dollar store & get your prize!
February 4th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
Armond, none of those Qb’s you mentioned in 364 were labeled lazy, fat, inaccurate, no pocket presence, blame team mates, out of shape, poor leadership dumb as rocks bust like your boy Russell.
But you keep convincing yourself Russell can turn it around and the rest of us will just accept reality.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
I don’t know if I’m talking to him or not. He’s not answering any of my questions.
At least Seymour dared to offer a timeline. I mean, do we just give the guy 5 or 6 yrs. to develop and keep saying to be patient?
February 4th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
armond,
I think Tom Cable is closer to being like Singletary than Hue Jackson is.
The difference is that Singletary can cut a player as well as yell at him. I don’t think Cable has that power.
There has to be a legitimate threat of punishment behind the words for them to be effective.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
Russell is too slow. He is slow dropping back, slow in making decisions, and slow when moving in the pocket.
He never steps up in the pocket, but instead retreats and throws off his back foot, clearly expecting his arm strength to compensate. This leads to accuracy problems.
He throws so hard that receivers can’t locate the ball, make adjustments, or hope to catch the damn ball.
This doesn’t even take into account his inability to read a defense at the line, how he holds the ball too long, and his inability to sense the rush.
The guy is a mess.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Armond, look at John Elways stats and people think he’s god. He threw 23 TD’s an d 22 int’s his 3rd year it took Elway 5 years before he really could read defenses his 1st 4 years he did it with arm strength. But he did make a lot of game winning plays. And that is why I compare Russell to him more than anyone.
Steve Ypungs weren’t all that ht either and all of those guy’s are in the HOF except the QB guru Gannon.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
I don’t think Russell’s career is over until he fails with another team. He get’s the benefit of the doubt for playing for the Raiders.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
Well Northern, Cable did bench Russell when he couldn’t take anymore. That shows some authority. and the team went out and performed better. That had to send a message not only to Russell, but to the rest of the team.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
Cool! I’ve been wanting a new toy cap gun anyway. Thanks.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
OakGlen, you are still talking about “watching tape”???
LMAO at least try and NOT sound like….you! Get some new phrases so you can at least throw off the dumber folks in here. Ha Ha
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Seymour Bush Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
In the last game of the season against Baltimore if you watch the tape,
February 4th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
I don’t think Russell’s career is over until he fails with another team. He get’s the benefit of the doubt for playing for the Raiders.
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And that’s why Davis will hold onto him…
February 4th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
Priesttj
The year Eli threw 20 tds, they went to the playoff, Elis still posted good overall numbers with 23 tds. The great Favre had seasons threwing more then 20 tds, my point it dont matter if your team is wining. JR has the worst QB stat since Ryan Leaf, for godsake Priesttj we talking about the lowest it can get, all the guys you mentioned one some games and lead their team regardless of their struggles. JR is beyond bust imo he is at the bottom. If a Charger fan says Leaf was better then JR I am not disagree with him from what I saw this year.
I do blame Cable and AL, but Jerry been reporting that JR looked bad during minicamps and training camp. My boy seen him in SF partying in the VIP popping champagne and cognac, Priesttj listen bro. I am not like others, I watch and understand the game, JR looked horrible and should have been benched in Week 4. Now as a Raider fan, I hope he changes but I just dont see the light in the end of the tunnel. If you know any new info about him, holla at your boy cause all i see is him heading to Vegas and showing his bling bling in the Suns game. He needs to arrange a meeting with Schillens, Murphy and DHB workout with them this whole summer otherwise well u know what i am saying.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
northern d how is it funny. strugglin is strugglin no matter how it happens. people put up stats as if qbs just come into the league and get it right. u know how u say russell does without working at it. alot of u guys dont like the guy and will make every argument to justify it no matter what. i like to be reasonable and not emotional. yes this year russell must show great improvement and the team must have a viable backup plan for this year and the next 5 years. which means u go after vick who can play for atleast 5 years and draft another young qb next year who wont have to play right away.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
Seymour Bush,
I think he only benched Russell after he got permission form Al first. I Singletary could do it on the spot. He benched Vernon Davis after a bone head play.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
mistabrOwn, we are talking football here. Why don’t you go find a lollipop to suck on. There is nothing of interest for you here.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
When Russell can execute a screen pass or a 7 on 7 drill in shorts with no contact in mini camp thats when theres some light at the end of the tunnel but right now there is NOTHING from this clown.
Zip Zero!
Black Moses = Doo Doo
February 4th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
The Raiders can’t even go in the “sit russell behind a vet” direction because Russell is apathetic as the starter.
Can you imagine how much of a turd this guy would become sitting on the bench another year or two.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
# NorthernD Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
Seymour Bush,
I think he only benched Russell after he got permission form Al first. I Singletary could do it on the spot. He benched Vernon Davis after a bone head play.
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Yes and no. Like with Vernon Davis, Cable benched Russell mid game. But I agree with you that he probably then went to Davis and said, we have to get rid of this guy for this, this and these reasons. Al went along, and that was that.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
If you think Singletary can cut a player you’re crazy. He can suggest it sure but that is an organizational thing. Singletary has a boss his name is Scott McCloughan and he cuts the players and brings them in.
Very few HC have that authority so don’t make statements that you have no clue how things really work. Mike can’t even draft whomever he wants, Scott drafted most of those players.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
mistabrown u think russell is dumb cuz u are judgemental. he aint my boy im a fan that wants it to work out. u obviously dont pay attention cuz i also said they should have a real backup plan THIS YEAR AND BEYOND if he doesnt get it right. he might be stupid to you but he got way more money than u and u talkin sh!t about him on a blog. now thats stupid.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
Djohnny,
I think your new here so let me help you out..
Dont talk to tj talk at him. Trust me, you’ll thank me later. Do you know the difference? tj will talk you into a drunken stuper if you let him.
His good friend OakGlen/Seymour will answer you as long as you dont pay attention to what he says and question him, after that he will turn on you like a weasel with rabies.
Good luck..
February 4th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Al Davis undermines his Coaches to let everybody know, he’s in charge.
Very petty.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Oh, one more thing Djohnny.
Armond only posts here when OakGlen & Tj are here so I dont know which one of them is actually Armond but you can figure this all out on your own.
Sorry its too late to explain KoolKell but you will get a clue very shortly..
February 4th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
No Armond I think Russell is dumb because I’ve seen him speak & play Qb & throw his team mayes under the bus.
I think you might be equally dumb but its hard to tell here on this blog, you could actually be dumber. Know what I’m sayin, Armond?
February 4th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
hahahahaha. MistabrOwn is one of the most reviled pieces of sh** on this blog. No one cares what he thinks or posts, except himself. We all wipe our asses with him. Hence the name: mistabrOwn.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
Perhaps funney is not the best way to describe it. The problem is that he’s getting worse and not better. all of those other QB were improving each season.
I was really looking forward to this season after the end of last year. JaMarcus had a 77.0 rating and looked like he was going to be in the middle of the pack as far as ratings went. Add a few nore wins, and I would have been quite happy with that.
Instead, he shows up out of shape, he looks awful, unprepared and the season goes in the tank.
Having that slug DHB in there didn’t help, but JaMarcus should have been much better.
Now instead of a developing young QB, they have a guy who is being compared to Ryan Leaf.
I don’t know him personally, so I couldn’t give a flying fudge about him, except for the fact that I want him to play well as the Raider’s QB.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
tj, can you repeat what you said a few months ago you know…DHB is better than Branch & T Brown.
Makes for good comedy and shows the new people how sharp as a marble you are.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
priest they think coaches do whatever they want.lovie smith had to choose between himself and the dc. guess who he chose? bud adams wanted to see vince young and guess what happened? did marriucci have control over TO, hell no!! how did that jerruh jones parcells combo work out? they talk all this stuff about coaches not being allowed to coach here but cant name one coach who controls everything. what coach u know picks every single player and coach? the general manager has first say over the coach and the owner has final say. our owner just happens to be the gm.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
OakGlen, I could go dig up 100 post of you saying these exact same words but I’m just crazy for thinking its you, right?
LMAO
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# Seymour Bush Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
hahahahaha. MistabrOwn is one of the most reviled pieces of sh** on this blog. No one cares what he thinks or posts, except himself. We all wipe our asses with him. Hence the name: mistabrOwn.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Hue Jackson was available because Flacco regressed in his 2nd year too.
I posted the article 10 times.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Yeah and the Jets went to the playoffs with a rookie QB who was HORRIBLE most of the year because they had a HC with a freakin’clue. If you manage a young QB correctly you can still win. If you ask him to do things he cannot, YOU WILL LOSE………..period
February 4th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
actually i dont know what u are saying. can u be more clear? i dont understand stupid, stupid.besides u aint tryin to meet me on the street so theres no sense of me waistin my time. stick with the obama rhetoric, its the only thing u may be smart about.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
NorthernD I can’t disagree. There is clearly a maturity problem with him, but again, you see guys like Vernon Davis, Braylon Edwards, and you see guys that pulled it together………eventually. One can only hope.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
OakGlen/Seymour,
It’s almost refreshing to see your not even denying or trying to hide the fact you are OakGlen anymore. Now you can continue posting under a new name because you embarrassed yourself to the point of having to change your name.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
Priesttj Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Yeah and the Jets went to the playoffs with a rookie QB who was HORRIBLE most of the year because they had a HC with a freakin’clue. If you manage a young QB correctly you can still win. If you ask him to do things he cannot, YOU WILL LOSE………..period
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I agree Russell was mismanaged. But I think it was at the behest of Al Davis.
If he wanted to run a managed offense he would have drafted a lineman or somebody other than DHB.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
It was probably more like 75 times but whos even paying attention to you ?
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KoolKell Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
I posted the article 10 times.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
A good retro jersey and hope, that’s pretty much all Raider fans have these days.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
That’s the thing about Davis, he’s so slimey.
He calls all of the shots.
Takes none of the blame.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
someone brought up signing marshall yanda from the ravens. that could be a nice signing and would allow us to use one less pick on olineman early in the draft.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
# NorthernD Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
A good retro jersey and hope, that’s pretty much all Raider fans have these days.
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Well said.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
OakGlen/Seymour/BsDetector I knew it was you the first time you came back and posted as Seymour. It took some of these guys a little while longer but I think its pretty clear now…lol
Next time you change names leave me out your mouth and you may be able to hide for at least a week or 2.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
Armond, post #404 I couldn’t agree more. They always think the other coaches have it much easier because this idiot who writes this blog is a hater. And they eat up all his crap he spews about the owner.
The coaches here have as much say as most and more than some. The difference is they have an owner that they can talk football with who knows of which he speaks. So they can’t BS him like they can Bob Kraft.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
KoolKell is it your contract with Jerry that you post here 20 hours a day or do you just have no life or hobbies to get you up off your lazy a$$ ?
February 4th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
You go back to that 2007 draft and there are very few guys in the top 45 that are making a big impact. Maybe four or five. The NFL has gotten pretty sophisticated and it takes a while for guys to develop it seems.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Never Worship A Mortal God.
Raiders fans are famously attached to their team. They’re also notoriously detached from reality.
After another subpar season in Oakland, the local faithful are still praying for deliverance—which would be better news if Al Davis were a deity worth appealing to.
Devotion means holding to a steady course.
Delusion, on the other hand, means clinging to a sinking ship.
I’m not suggesting that the Raiders won’t ever turn it around. What goes down must come up, and sooner or later the club is bound to experience a renaissance. But a body can’t be reborn when its head refuses to die. In a league where ownership rights extend to the grave, only the most starry-eyed fan would bet on recovery before Al finally runs himself into the ground.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/330081-al-davis-the-real-problem-with-oakland-raiders-fans
February 4th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
hahahahaha. MistabrOwn is one of the most reviled pieces of sh** on this blog. No one cares what he thinks or posts, except himself. We all wipe our asses with him. Hence the name: mistabrOwn. What is the name of that talking piece of sh** on South Park? Wasn’t that mistabrOwn?
February 4th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
At least I dont have to change my name & then lie about doing it.
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Seymour Bush Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
hahahahaha. MistabrOwn is one of the most reviled pieces of sh** on this blog
February 4th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
OakGlen, I ran you off this blog didnt I ?
You couldn’t take me posting all your idiotic predictions and contradictions….lmao
February 4th, 2010 at 11:33 pm
Mistabrown,glad youre posting some truth here,starting to connect the dots in this blog.Thanks for the fresh air,Raiders!!!!!
February 4th, 2010 at 11:54 pm
# priesttj Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
I’m listening to Rich Gannon preach his crap again what a POC he is. Acting like he did everything right and Russell is doing nothing right. Who better this early in their Career Russell or him? Rich SUCKED!! his first 5 years.
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Love Gannon…..every Raider fan should wish he was the owner or GM of the Raiders and NOT the old stupid delusional man Al Davis, that’s for damn sure!
February 4th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
RaiderDogg,
Where are the REAL changes that would be unprecedented that you were talking about 2 weeks ago that would occur with this dis organization and team?
February 5th, 2010 at 12:03 am
DKnight007 Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 11:54 pm
# priesttj Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
I’m listening to Rich Gannon preach his crap again what a POC he is. Acting like he did everything right and Russell is doing nothing right. Who better this early in their Career Russell or him? Rich SUCKED!! his first 5 years.
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Love Gannon…..every Raider fan should wish he was the owner or GM of the Raiders and NOT the old stupid delusional man Al Davis, that’s for damn sure!
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Why would any Russell fan compare him to Gannon?
Gannon was drafted to play safety!!!
They never considered his arm strong enough to play NFL QB. They picked him as a safety, but Gannon wouldn’t take no for an answer. He showed up at the QB meetings on his spare time and kept at it until they let him have a shot.
He was not the first pick in the draft. He wasn’t even drafted to play QB.
He’s the wrong guy to be comparing Russell to.
He may not be a great radio guy, but no one worked harder to make it in the NFL.
February 5th, 2010 at 12:07 am
Norco Bob Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
And I would be very upset if the Raiders ever bought any tickets to lift the blackouts,…alot of teams do it, thank God the Raiders dont,..nor should they
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Uhh…probably because there are too many seats to buy to lift the blackout on a week in and week out basis for the stupid spending old man to take on. LOL
The old man would rather waste a boat load of cash on unproven or unproductive players like Juggs Russell, D Hall, Kelly, DHB, J Walker instead of spending the money WISELY on proven and productive talent and HIRING a good to great coach and paying him 4 million a year to turn the team around and be respectable again instead of a laughingstock.
The old man Al must be a masochist.
February 5th, 2010 at 4:03 am
Morning Nation!
February 5th, 2010 at 5:08 am
Good Morning, my Raider brethren:
Here’s my take on the unravelling — I’m sure this rant has been turned by several over the course of months on this blog:
Al had a ton invested in JaBelly. He was truly THE MAN coming into camp and he knew it — nobody really to push him … Garcia? Please!!! After he signed the fat contract, he figured he could just rely on his big arm and what he perceived to be his own mad football skills to set the world on fire (I think he was also delusional, seeing how well the team did during the last two games of the ‘08 season).
Al got him the fastest guy he could find, to stretch the vertical game and to bring back memories of the passing game we all fell in love with years ago.
The trouble is – both JaBelly and Worthless-Bey proved to be no more effective on the football field than Laurel and Hardy. The defense caved, the offensive line lost Gallery and folded, we started throwing 2 yard pass dump routes and having fullbacks running back kickoffs into a pile. We became the laughingstock of the league in those pathetic games against Jets and Giants, not to mention the Eugene beatdown during the Ravens game.
Controversy surrounds our coach, and that spineless little Hanson guy roaming around. Raider Nation is still proud, but badly bruised and scarred – waiting for a miracle.
In an uncapped year, we have pretty much what we have (the same can be said for all teams, pretty much). Do we improve this year? I think the potential is there to at least finish .500
Hang in there, peeps … I feel that the winds are about to change.
February 5th, 2010 at 5:11 am
By the way, as much as I like Timmy Brown, I’m still gonna wear my #8 and #21 jerseys around — in my opinion, those are the next two numbers of Raider players that need to see the bright lights of the Hall of Fame!
February 5th, 2010 at 5:32 am
raidertbone Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 5:08 am
Hang in there, peeps … I feel that the winds are about to change.
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from Autumn Wind to breaking wind…
that happened some time ago…
look at that…
the Raiders have become a fart joke…
February 5th, 2010 at 5:38 am
Actually, the reference was from “Pirates of the Caribbean” — just before the crew got attacked and ravaged by all the zombie pirates. Same deal; but you’re right, Pete — still smells like a fart, right now!
February 5th, 2010 at 5:39 am
Think I’ll go watch the tape again of the Super Bowl vs. the Redskins – a classic mauling!
February 5th, 2010 at 5:42 am
:-@
February 5th, 2010 at 5:43 am
Hey 4eva:
Did I put you to sleep?
February 5th, 2010 at 5:45 am
No tbone….if you do that sequence on an IM its pretty funny
February 5th, 2010 at 5:45 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, GREAT GAME RAIDERTBONE,RAIDER’S SCORE ON OFFENSE-DEFENSE AND SPECIAL TEAMS IN THE FIRST HALF,AS U SAY,A CLASSIC MAULING..
February 5th, 2010 at 5:49 am
I particularly like the look on Theismann’s face as he is walking off the field at the end of the first half.
As I recall (and I don’t remember much after that), it was all downhill from there, except for the shots and toasting the MVP at the end of the game!
February 5th, 2010 at 5:52 am
I told you so….
“Bob Marley Says:
January 15th, 2010 at 9:20 am
Also, if we keep Cable and he remains as the play-caller, we should hire Hue Jackson or David Shaw as OC-QB coach, it’s obvious a guy like Hackett won’t be able to help Russell, Hackett is old school, he’s used to have hard-working guys like Montana, Gannon and Pennington…Hackett probably lost interest as soon as he realized Russell’s heart wasn’t in it.
Jackson and Shaw are younger guys who may be able to relate to Russell and get something out of him before it’s too late, I’m not even sure if it can be done but you have to give it one more shot, treat JaMarcus as a rookie, make him third string and start all over again.”
February 5th, 2010 at 5:55 am
Well, sort of…they gave Jackson a bigger role and that’s fine with me.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:01 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Super Bowl Weekend has arrived!!!
Oh well, another weekend for me and my last excuse for about 6 months to really watch tv!
February 5th, 2010 at 6:02 am
good morning AM crew!
February 5th, 2010 at 6:03 am
got that right Hwnrdr
February 5th, 2010 at 6:05 am
Finally a FRIDAY 4those that are working!
February 5th, 2010 at 6:05 am
COME ON HWNRDR,WE KNOW U R INTO THE SOAPE-OPERA’S…
February 5th, 2010 at 6:06 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 6:05 am
Finally a FRIDAY 4those that are working!
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… or about ready to shovel a bunch of snow (back East)!
February 5th, 2010 at 6:08 am
Man, Rockstar don’t mess around, 5 o’clock, and not a minute later, and he is gone.
If I was podunk, I wouldn’t so pleased.
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Vegas: no overtime allowed here. used to be ok before the economy turned to cr@p.
besides, I crunch numbers for a living. it’s not like my job is so urgent that things can’t wait until tomorrow (if need be)
I look forward to going home to my wife. we’re trying to make our first baby so it’s a pretty exciting time in my life
the “TRYING” is awesome. haha
February 5th, 2010 at 6:09 am
DAMN U ROCKSTAR,THAT COLD GRAVY SANDWICH FROM YESTERDAY..WHEEEW.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:12 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!
I emailed JerryMac with a scoop but he didn’t use it. If you are in N/W Ohio for the Super Bowl, Bruce Gradkowski is in Toledo with the Univ of Toledo Football Recruits. He will be giving autographs Sunday from 5-6 p.m. at Arnies Eating and Drinking Saloon at 3332 W. Central. I got nothing out of the plug and have not been there in 8 yrs.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:12 am
So just wait Rockstar, no need beating the Javier Arenas debate to death in February.
If he is on the Raiders, you will be a huge fan. If he lands on one of the teams in our division, he will be a pain in our side.
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fair enough Vegas. If we trade for DT Marcus Stroud and grab MLB Karlos Dansby in free agency i’m sure everybody’s draft priorities will change
do it Al!
cut Warren & Walker. paycuts for Russell & Kelly
that should free up some money and this year is uncapped anyways. yahoo!
February 5th, 2010 at 6:12 am
Of course Dirt Lot…As The World (of Al Davis) Turns!!! LOL!
February 5th, 2010 at 6:15 am
Just messing with you Rockstar.
5 sharp you are gone. Never 5:10 or even 5:08.
I’m in sales, so I haven’t had an hourly paid job, really since college. I check e-mails at 5:30 am, screw off for a few hours, check in to the office, go to a few meetings, have to answer the phone, whenever it rings.
Two different worlds.
Good luck on your efforts with the wifey, don’t put in a Jamarcus Russell type-effort, lol
February 5th, 2010 at 6:15 am
LOL @ Dirt Lot.
good stuff maynard!
February 5th, 2010 at 6:15 am
Good morning AM crew.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:17 am
Morning Neilb!!! Or should we say afternoon? You’re waht? 8 hrs ahead?
February 5th, 2010 at 6:18 am
Rockstar…
You thinking of names yet ? I think Neil is a good name……..unless your surname is Down.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:18 am
Good luck on your efforts with the wifey, don’t put in a Jamarcus Russell type-effort
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I can’t imagine my wife saying “I got my money. screw you Rockstar. where’s the keys? i’m headed to Frosty Freeze”
LOL
February 5th, 2010 at 6:19 am
I think Neil is a good name……..unless your surname is Down.
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or Diamond. haha
February 5th, 2010 at 6:19 am
Morning Hwnrdr…
It’s nearly 2.30 in the pm here.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:19 am
Good luck on your efforts with the wifey, don’t put in a Jamarcus Russell type-effort, lol
Haha! Come on Vegas…that would be pretty hard to eat a bag of skittles while trying!!! LOL
Good Luck, Rockstar!!! That’s always exciting to add a new edition to the family! And I don’t mean Bobby Brown!
February 5th, 2010 at 6:20 am
Did you post it on OLARB Exla?
February 5th, 2010 at 6:20 am
……or O’Neal!!
February 5th, 2010 at 6:21 am
I see Priest was in here, making up stories on other people’s struggles as they entered the league.
He brought up OJ, Phil Simms, Jerry Rice (LMAO) and some others, who failed to live up to expectations for awhile, in Rice’s case about 5 games.
None of those guys were the worst at their position, in their 3rd year.
And the Vick or Bruce talk should be so obvious. This team needs a leader at QB, not some guy with amazing physicall skills who has failed to live up to his potential (where have we heard this before??). Vick is 3 years older than Bruce, and half the leader that Bruce is.
Bring back that big Gradkowski, with the Dude and a few white russians, and replace the man’s rug!!!
February 5th, 2010 at 6:22 am
Your out of your fkn element Donny!!!!!!
February 5th, 2010 at 6:23 am
Come on Vegas…that would be pretty hard to eat a bag of skittles while trying!!!
That’s always exciting to add a new edition to the family! And I don’t mean Bobby Brown!
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Russell’s fantasy in the bedroom is to get a girl drunk and have her feed him crustables
February 5th, 2010 at 6:24 am
Yep everybody screams 4a real footballer and we got one…His name is Bruce….#2 will never beat this guy out,imo
February 5th, 2010 at 6:24 am
….Or Smith, I hated that guy
February 5th, 2010 at 6:26 am
Russell’s fantasy in the bedroom is to get a girl drunk and have her feed him crustables
Thanks Rockstar…almost spit my coffee all over the screen…LOL
February 5th, 2010 at 6:27 am
February 5th, 2010 at 6:28 am
WHAT WILL THE KID’S BLOG NAME BE..”LITTLE-ROCK” OR “KID-ROCK” SORREY, THAT ONE’S TAKEN..
February 5th, 2010 at 6:28 am
And of course, with Russell we have to be patient as it takes years, and over 30+ starts for a QB to develop and find his groove. That’s what the Russell apologists will tell you.
But that same rule doesn’t apply to Bruce, he already is what he is, even though he is less than 2 years older than Jamarcus and has started half as many games.
Double standard???????
February 5th, 2010 at 6:31 am
February 5th, 2010 at 6:33 am
Russell has started 25+ games
it would have been 30+ games but he was benched for a couple of 3rd stringer journeymen types (and rightfully so)
I don’t think lack of experience or confidence are his problems. more like lack of effort, commitment, leadership & common sense.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:35 am
“Find his groove”……couldn’t find his groove with both hands.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:35 am
PREDICTION’S ON THE GAME. ANYONE….
February 5th, 2010 at 6:37 am
Dirt-lot…
Luck runs out.Colts in a blow out.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:38 am
GGOD STUFF NEILB,POST-476.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:39 am
I DONT USUALY STUDDER..
February 5th, 2010 at 6:41 am
Luck runs out.Colts in a blow out.
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Donovan McNabb said the same thing on ESPN this morning.
Colts by 17
I’m not sure about my prediction yet….
February 5th, 2010 at 6:42 am
It took Brees time to get to his level….One thing Brees never did was lead Div.1 in completion %’s,Bruce did.He is deadly accurate.just sayin
February 5th, 2010 at 6:44 am
I think we’ll have better production from the O-Line, running game and receivers this year.
Russell will stay on the same path he’s been on and it’ll become painfully obvious (if it isn’t already) that Russell is the weak link on offense
February 5th, 2010 at 6:45 am
Maybe I’m being harsh saying it will be a blow out,but I think the colts will control the game from start to finish.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:47 am
Al will never admit to JaMarcus being a bust.He’s on this team for a few years yet.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:50 am
4eva: I never thought I’d see Bruce Gradkowski & Drew Brees in the same sentence … wow
I actually think the Saints will be competitive in this game. winner takes the game by a FG in OT
don’t care which team wins
February 5th, 2010 at 6:51 am
4evaRaider Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 6:20 am
Did you post it on OLARB Exla?
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Good Idea.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:52 am
anybody else sick of seeing Freeney “ankle-gate” on SportsCenter?
good grief.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:55 am
I think that they are over playing that too!!!
February 5th, 2010 at 6:56 am
Morning Nation
February 5th, 2010 at 6:56 am
I say…Colts on the last drive…either going to win with a score, or an int will seal it for NO…
We’ll shall see!!!
February 5th, 2010 at 6:56 am
SAN DIEGO (AP) LaDainian Tomlinson says he believes he has played his last game with the San Diego Chargers.
The NFL’s most valuable player in 2006 has two years remaining on his contract. He is due a $2 million roster bonus March 5 and would be paid $5 million in total salary in 2010.
Tomlinson tells the newspaper he doesn’t know when the Chargers will release him and that his agent, Tom Condon, might call the club to expedite the process.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:59 am
Rockstar…
I forgot all ’bout that.It was on sky sports news this morning that he’d be playing for a new team next season.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:00 am
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d81635df6&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
February 5th, 2010 at 7:02 am
I am happy the LT is going to play for another team. I have always been a huge fan of his. One of the best RB’s ever and a real stand up guy. Too bad he was the enemy forever. I would love him in the silver and black, even if it is just as a role player/mentor to our younger backs.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:03 am
I say…Colts on the last drive…either going to win with a score, or an int will seal it for NO…
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Manning threw 16 INT’s this year
Brees threw 11 INT’s this year
February 5th, 2010 at 7:05 am
Would be interesting if it came to that…although, I would never be viewed as “Swammy”
February 5th, 2010 at 7:06 am
BCZ: couldn’t agree more
drop Fargas and sign Tomlinson to complete the 3 man rotation
they are the same age and just as injury prone, but at least LT can find the endzone!
February 5th, 2010 at 7:08 am
the Chargers will draft Jahvid Best (Cal)
February 5th, 2010 at 7:10 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 7:06 am
BCZ: couldn’t agree more
drop Fargas and sign Tomlinson to complete the 3 man rotation
they are the same age and just as injury prone, but at least LT can find the endzone!
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Insanity. McFelldown goes if anyone.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:10 am
Stop putting idea’s in Al’s head !
February 5th, 2010 at 7:11 am
7/1 odds on the game going to overtime.
Love these props bets.
Who will score more points:
Kobe Bryant vs. Colts (Kobe points 2/6/10 vs. Blazers)
Kobe +3.5
February 5th, 2010 at 7:13 am
Why would the Eagles hire former Browns general manager Phil Savage as a player personnel consultant for the April draft?
He sure turned the Brownies into a force to be reckoned with, didn’t he?
Maybe Al Davis will hire Matt Millen as a player personnel consultant for the April draft too…
February 5th, 2010 at 7:16 am
Bush for Lady Tomlinson straight up….Bush fail with dolts too,imo
February 5th, 2010 at 7:16 am
NO!!!:(
February 5th, 2010 at 7:17 am
THAT IS WHY AL IS QUIET,HE IS WAITING R S.D. TO FREE UP L.T SO THE RAIDER’S CAN BRING HIM IN..
February 5th, 2010 at 7:18 am
McFelldown goes if anyone.
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Year #3 is when most players start to “get it” BSJ
obviously Russell regressed so badly that even Gradkowski & Frye look like respectable starters in Oakland by comparison
DMC only has 217 carries in his first 2 seasons … divide that by 32 games
he gets less than 7 carries per game since being drafted
we really don’t know what the young man has to offer yet at this point (besides fumbles)
February 5th, 2010 at 7:18 am
Rockstar….IMHO the Browns are an up and coming team.Excellent YOUNG O-Line,anchored by you know who.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:21 am
Bush has 218 carries the past 2 seasons.
Fargas has 347 carries the past 2 seasons.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:21 am
fear not Hwnrdr
February 5th, 2010 at 7:22 am
Runningbacks start to show alot earlier than most positions. DMC has shown nada. He is stiff as a board, misses holes and gets tripped up too easy. He can catch but thats about it. DMC along with Russell and a long list of high Raider draft picks are el busto.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:23 am
By KATHARINE HOURELD, Associated Press Writer Katharine Houreld, Associated Press Writer – 13 mins ago
NAIROBI, Kenya – Danish special forces stormed a ship captured by armed Somali pirates Friday and freed the 25 crew on board, marking the first time a warship has intervened during a hijacking, naval spokesmen said.
After the vessel Ariella sent out a distress signal early Friday, the Danish warship Absalon sent a helicopter to confirm the presence of pirates, and communicated with the crew to ensure they were in a safe location, said Cmdr. John Harbour, spokesman for the European Union Naval Force.
“Once NATO were absolutely sure that the crew onboard were safe and not going to be caught up in any cross fire, the decision was made to send in the specialist teams,” said Lt. Col. Wolfgang Schmidt, a spokesman for NATO’s Lisbon-based Joint Command.
Ten Danish special forces aboard the Absalon approached the Ariella in an inflatable dinghy, he said. The forces scaled the side of the ship and freed the 25 crew, who had locked themselves in a secure room, and continued to search the vessel for the pirates.
In the meantime, sailors from the nearby Russian Navy ship Neustrashimyy boarded and detained pirates aboard a second skiff, said Schmidt.
Harbour praised the NATO forces for their fast reaction and coordination with other forces in the area.
“There’s been many instances where there’s been excellent cooperation and three, four or even five nations have helped deter a pirate attack,” he said. But, he added: “This is the first where a warship has been able to send forces to stop a hijacking while it was in progress.”
Warships typically do not intervene in hijackings because of the danger that crews may be hit by crossfire. Forces were able to intervene in this case because the ship had registered with naval authorities, was traveling along a recommended transit corridor and was part of a group transit, ensuring the ships had a helicopter within 30 minutes’ reaction time, Harbour said.
Denmark rarely releases information on operations carried out by its elite forces, but the storming of the ship may have been carried out by the country’s elite Frogman Corps, which were part of a NATO deployment.
“There is an operation going on down there and we’re involved. It is still going on right now,” Pernielle Kroer, spokeswoman for the Danish Navy told The Associated Press.
The Antigua and Barbuda-flagged Ariella sent out a distress signal early Friday that was picked up by the Indian warship Tabar in the Gulf of Aden. The Indians relayed the signal to a French plane overhead, which spotted a group of armed pirates on the deck. Then the Danish troops were notified.
The ship has a crew of 25, including a Bulgarian, a Slovakian, an Indian, 15 Filipinos, and 7 Ukrainians, the EU Naval Force said. They are all safe.
Other EU and American forces have intervened in pirate hostage situations, but not during the hijacking itself.
French commandos stormed a yacht last April with five hostages on board but one, skipper Florent Lemacon, was killed during the operation. American snipers also shot dead three pirates in April 2009 holding an American captain hostage on board a lifeboat after the crew of the Maersk Alabama had persuaded the pirates to leave the main ship.
Details on the nationalities of the crew on board the Arielle and its cargo were not immediately released.
Somali pirates have seized three ships this year and hold a total of nine vessels and more than 180 crew.
Piracy is one of the few ways to make money in Somalia, an arid, impoverished land torn apart by civil war. The government does not hold its own capital and can’t send forces to counter the flourishing pirate bases that dot its 1,900-mile (3,100-kilometer)-long coastline.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:23 am
THINK THAT IS BSJ’S POINT ROCKSTAR, IF THE GUY IS TO SOFT TO PLAY,WHY KEEP HIM?
February 5th, 2010 at 7:24 am
Trade Dmac for you know who!
February 5th, 2010 at 7:25 am
trade the walrus for a Somali pirate!
February 5th, 2010 at 7:26 am
Bush “might” get more carries if he could stand up for more than 1 play at a time….Just like that writer stated…Professional athletes are paid to keep themselves in shape year round.Bush and #2 dont.And I think that is a slap in the face of all the pro’s who work their fingers to the literal bone to succeed in this league…..I have nothing but contempt for Bush and #2
February 5th, 2010 at 7:27 am
lmao Neilb!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 5th, 2010 at 7:29 am
Hehehehe!!!
February 5th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Damn….Bush and #2,why we gotta have both of those kinds of people?
February 5th, 2010 at 7:30 am
neil…
just found out i wont be able to see the everton game, at least i can record it…
February 5th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Lt. Col. Wolfgang Schmidt for Head Coach!
February 5th, 2010 at 7:33 am
Bush may be chunky like LenDale White, but at least he puts the work in. he’s a very talented RB IMO and it has shown in several games the past 2 years
Russell hasn’t shown me anything. not even glimpses of being something great down the road
February 5th, 2010 at 7:34 am
BSJ: what ever happened to your boy Raider TW??
February 5th, 2010 at 7:34 am
LMN…
Working?
February 5th, 2010 at 7:36 am
Colonel Wilhelm Klink for HC!!!
February 5th, 2010 at 7:38 am
LaDainian Tomlinson spent a couple of weeks following the abrupt conclusion of the Chargers season reflecting, in prayer and meditation.
He has reached the stage of acceptance.
After a month of proclaiming he did not know what his future would be, the certain Hall of Famer said Thursday he knows he has played his last game as a Charger.
“I’m not coming back,” Tomlinson said. “I don’t believe I’ll be back in San Diego. I’ve accepted it.”
Tomlinson, who has two years remaining on his contract, said neither he nor his agent has spoken with the Chargers since the season ended. He has simply read the writing on the wall.
“I just felt like it was over,” Tomlinson said.
All that’s left now is for the breakup to become official, which likely won’t happen for a few weeks.
Tomlinson is due a $2 million roster bonus March 5 and would be paid $5 million in total salary in 2010. As part of the renegotiated contract he signed last March, he is guaranteed $1 million by the Chargers for next season.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:38 am
Rockstar….Bush makes what 450,000 a year? Waay cheap by RB standards in the nfl.Bush stays,imo
February 5th, 2010 at 7:39 am
How to deal with somali pirates…..see what the English did to Catain Kidd.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:40 am
unless we trade him
February 5th, 2010 at 7:40 am
captain…sorry.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:44 am
Tomlinson said whenever the Chargers do let him go he will search for another team and will “definitely” play next season. The man whose 12,490 career rushing yards rank eighth in NFL history and whose 153 touchdowns rank third believes he can still be a productive rusher.
A trade is highly unlikely.
Tomlinson also intimated why it’s time to move on, saying he felt “disconnected” from his teammates much of this past season.
“I felt like I wasn’t as close for whatever reason to what was going on,” he said.
Knowing he is not going to be in San Diego, he said he is speaking out for the good of the team.
“Hopefully,” Tomlinson said, “I leave some wisdom to the leaders that are left behind.”
February 5th, 2010 at 7:45 am
nobody messes with Captain Crunch
February 5th, 2010 at 7:50 am
Time to go.
Hope the games a good one.
Have a great weekend everyone.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:50 am
I bet Tomlinson will join another AFC West team.
he’ll partner with Moreno in Dungver or Charles in KC
1-2 punch
Raiders will stick with “Thunder, Lightning & Crash Test Dummy”
February 5th, 2010 at 7:51 am
U2 Neilb!
February 5th, 2010 at 7:55 am
Hope everyone has a great Super Bowl Weekend!!! We’ll talk after the game on Monday!!!
February 5th, 2010 at 7:56 am
take care Neil & Hwnrdr!
February 5th, 2010 at 7:59 am
neil..
nopes, moving…
see ya! dont say anything about the game, i might check in here before im seeing it..
February 5th, 2010 at 8:00 am
I hope DMAC is at the Tiki Barber school for curing fumblitis.
February 5th, 2010 at 8:07 am
and Russell should consult Ryan Leaf. what does the biggest bust in NFL history do after his football playing days are over?
Leaf got his bachelor’s degree at Washington State University and got a job as QB Coach for West Texas A&M.
then his life went downhill again. LOL. even a fancy pig returns to roll around in the mud
February 5th, 2010 at 8:19 am
RR, Your wrong on one thing Brother… “Russell” doesnt have to consult with ryan leaf. All he has to do is look in the mirror….. He is ryan leaf…
February 5th, 2010 at 8:20 am
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP) The question to DeMaurice Smith was simple, coming from Cincinnati receiver Chad Ochocinco, asking how serious he viewed the possibility of football not being played in 2011.
Smith did not hesitate.
“On a scale of 1 to 10,” Smith said Thursday, “it’s a 14.”
February 5th, 2010 at 8:25 am
With that, the executive director of the NFL Players Association painted perhaps the bleakest picture yet regarding prospects of labor strife in the league, which could be looking at a 2010 season with no salary cap and, if the collective bargaining agreement expires as scheduled in March 2011, a lockout that year.
“I keep coming back to an economic model in America that is unparalleled,” said Smith, who often repeated phrases for emphasis. “And that makes it incredibly difficult to then come to players and say, on average, each of you needs to take a $340,000 pay cut to save the National Football League. Tough sell. Tough sell.”
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what would these players be doing without the NFL and how much money would they be making? the players should accept whatever the NFL demands imo. they are playing a friggin sport for a living and that is considered a luxury. How many of these highly touted athletes have degrees to fall back on? I’m guessing it’s not the majority of them. they’d be limited to asst coaching jobs and grunt work for little pay
February 5th, 2010 at 8:31 am
For now, some players say they’re bracing for issues. Mawae said he even has recommended players save 25 percent of their salary next season “in the event of a lockout,” though he noted “we can’t make all 1,900 players save their money.”
“We’ve told them, `Don’t go out and buy a new boat. Don’t go out and buy a new car. Pay off whatever debts you have,’ ” said Jeff Saturday of the Indianapolis Colts. “These are things we’ve been learning from history.”
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sure looks like Russell is saving his money and bracing for hard times, eh?
an 18 percent paycut for football players is still more than the average worker ie Middle Class makes.
The minimum salary structure for 2007 was as follows:
Rookies and first-year players $285,000
Second-year players $360,000
Third-year $435,000
Fourth-year $510,000
Fifth- through seventh-year $595,000
Eighth- through tenth-year $720,000
Eleventh-year and longer $820,000
how many NFL players make more than the vet minimum?
February 5th, 2010 at 8:34 am
whats up Thec?
I forgot. Russell = BRL
LOL
I can’t believe Leaf asked one of his players for pain meds!
February 5th, 2010 at 8:42 am
who will win the 2010 NBA All-Star Game?
who will be MVP?
go Iverson!
February 5th, 2010 at 8:47 am
# Richochet Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Didn’t say worse..I say it’s just above.
IMO..if you rape a woman, huevos should be cut off.
Abuse a child? Hands and huevos should be cut off.
Abuse a dog like Vick did? Slap a can of Alpo on his huevos, and let a pack of pit’s go at it.
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Alright then. . . . .took a year, but, we’ve finally agreed on something.
Can of Alpo.. . . . that was good!
February 5th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Only in America would people be MORE upset that a man fought dogs that were BRED FOR FIGHTING than they are at a man who got drunk and killed someone. Only in American can a dog killer serve 2 years in prison, and a man killer serve 2 WEEKS! Pit Bulls are bred for fighting… cows are bred for eating… I do not condone Michael Vicks actions but can we please step back and realize how ignorant we look when we hold dogs lives in higher regard than human lives!
February 5th, 2010 at 8:57 am
back back later. gotta meeting
February 5th, 2010 at 8:59 am
some humans are lying,scheming POS.Its not a 1 size fits all ya know…..So yeah dogs are waaay beyyer than those types of people.Some people just need killing,imo
February 5th, 2010 at 9:00 am
beTTer
February 5th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Bcz24,
While I agree with your point, the only reason Vick got racked over the coals was because he initially lied and misled the feds. That’s a big no-no, this wasn’t the Newport, Virginia local police department, it was the freaking feds.
A good lesson to learn, lying will only make the problem worse. Be honest, fess up, face the music, and he would have got 3 months.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:06 am
I disagree with you Vegas, but I am going to qualify that statement. His punishment was more severe for lying, but he was raked over the coals because SOMEONE had to be the poster child for the “movement”… Rapper DMX was caught with 10 times the amount of dogs in far worse conditions than Vick and he was slapped on the wrist. He wasnt “high profile” enough. He wasnt the first guy in the NFL to ever get a 100 million dollar contract.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:07 am
Good morning to all my dear friends in here,…its been too long, but you were all in my dreams,…not old kell though, ugly old men dont enter my dreams.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:09 am
Fair enough, can’t disagree with that.
My point was that he did himself no favors by lying, and made everything worse, including his sentencing.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:11 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 7:18 am
McFelldown goes if anyone.
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Year #3 is when most players start to “get it” BSJ
obviously Russell regressed so badly that even Gradkowski & Frye look like respectable starters in Oakland by comparison
DMC only has 217 carries in his first 2 seasons … divide that by 32 games
he gets less than 7 carries per game since being drafted
we really don’t know what the young man has to offer yet at this point (besides fumbles)
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If his year three at all resembles years one and two, his trade value will be nil. Dump him now. Many, many better RBs are available for less.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:16 am
Agreed
February 5th, 2010 at 9:16 am
Fighting dogs is 1 thing….I personally dont like it and am glad it is against the law.Some owners of these fighting dogs will stop the fight B4 his dog gets killed or maimed.They are 2B commended 4 that.
But when you electrocute and DROWN dogs that is a different SADISTIC sphere all to its own.This clearly went past dog-fighting…. vick is a douche-bag and its all on the WHEEL
February 5th, 2010 at 9:16 am
When trading with the Raiders MOST players value is nil!
February 5th, 2010 at 9:20 am
The worst part of the Vick story I read was when they said they would use Beagles for warmups for the fighting dogs, and called them “Batting practice”.
Poor Beagles!!!!!
February 5th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Good morning Nation.
O Mock Draft 5.5:
1- LB Weatherspoon/ McClain
2- OT T Williams if Available, or Kyle Calloway
3- DT Cam Thomas
3- DE Austen Lane ( move Seymour inside full-time.)
4- LB Micah Johnson (steal due to injury)
5- CB Walter Thurmond (steal due to injury)
5- KR/PR Leroy Vann (11 TDs returns in 2 years!!!)
7- OG
February 5th, 2010 at 9:23 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 7:34 am
BSJ: what ever happened to your boy Raider TW??
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Good Q. No worries though. You can’t keep a good liberal down.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:26 am
I agree again 4eva. I never said what Vick did was ok. Whats not ok is the travesty of justice that occured afterwards. His punishment was far to severe for the crime. The American justice system is broken.. much like everything else
February 5th, 2010 at 9:27 am
# bcz24 Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Only in America would people be MORE upset that a man fought dogs that were BRED FOR FIGHTING than they are at a man who got drunk and killed someone. Only in American can a dog killer serve 2 years in prison, and a man killer serve 2 WEEKS! Pit Bulls are bred for fighting… cows are bred for eating… I do not condone Michael Vicks actions but can we please step back and realize how ignorant we look when we hold dogs lives in higher regard than human lives!
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First off. . . .
If you read my earlier post (#93), you’ll see that I don’t put a dog’s life in front of a human life. I generally agree with your premise.
With that being said, who are we to really declare that a life’s dog or a rat’s life is somehow less “worthy” than that of a human life? It’s pretty presumptuous of an assumption, don’t you think?
Remember the tiger in the Oakland zoo that escaped and killed that kid? Remember all the uproar and sympathy for the kid that died? Remember the fact that the tiger simply “had” to be put down?
In my opinion, that was absolute BS. Why was the tiger at fault? The whole premise of a zoo is BS. You take a wild animal and stick it in a “cage”. And then you antagonize the animal, causing it’s already-high levels of stress to increase even more. And then the animal manages to escape and does what every instinct in its body tells it to do – attack and preserve its own life. So he does.
And the result? He pays his life for it.
Now THAT is BS.
Back to the topic at hand: What Vick did isn’t worse than what so many scumbags do every day around this country. But regardless of the fact that he was made the posterchild, what he did was pure evil and scum.
He’s paid his dues and I don’t expect anything else from him, other than hopefully he learned a valuable lesson. Beyond that, the man deserves to continue his life and improve himself like the rest of human beings are allowed to do when they commit wrong in their lives.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Iv actually changed my mind on Vick,…dont want him anymore….I would rather come home greeted by my dogs after a loss with Russell, then be greeted by them after a win with Vick. Word.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:32 am
-We should sign the Best G & C in FA, and cut WR Walker & DT Warren. We are paying those 2 players 10 mil/ year, and I would rather see that money go towards a G & C.
- Sign the best FB availabe, and cut the 2 we have.
- Sign a descent vet WR, who teach by example, and doesn’t cost much.
- Sign a descent vet QB to compete with BG and JR.
- Sign a RB after the draft.
Fire Cable!!!!
February 5th, 2010 at 9:33 am
The leader in the club house for where Vick will start next season,..Niners,..damn.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Fire Cable?…why?
February 5th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Entity’s such as Sea-World or Ringling Brothers should be stripped of all revenue from the animals they abuse so they do ‘tricks”…..Fukk tricks.I hate sea-world and zoos.
Maybe have a zoo for endangered species only.To stabilize the population of endangered species
STOP ABUSING ANIMALS FOR PROFIT AND ENJOYMENT
February 5th, 2010 at 9:34 am
I agree with you as well for the most part smac… I dont believe in god, so I contend that based on evolution we do play some part in lesser creatures deaths. Think about it this way using your ideals… should every exterminator in America serve the same sentence as Vick? They kill entire colonies of bugs! Far more lifes taken than the dogs vick killed… who are we to decide that a BUG is worth so much less than a DOG? Its a matter of human convenience though therefore its ok… lovable little puppy dogs though… nope cant hurt them!
February 5th, 2010 at 9:35 am
BSJ,
TW can’t chat anymore due to work, but he still reads as much as he can.
Free TW & Legalize it!
February 5th, 2010 at 9:35 am
trade the walrus for an abused beagle!
shoot. trade the walrus for the Easter Beagle!
(Charlie Brown reference)
February 5th, 2010 at 9:36 am
# bcz24 Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Only in America would people be MORE upset that a man fought dogs that were BRED FOR FIGHTING than they are at a man who got drunk and killed someone.
RICHOCHET: Only in America do we condone head up ass morons from 3rd world countries who likely view dogs as “lunch” to post ignorant crap, citing free speech.
They are NOT BRED FOR FIGHTING, you dumbass.
Because some lowlife says “Oh…hey’s…my ignorant redneck ass is gonna bred dees dogs..and we’s fights dem, cuz dey makes good fighters”..DOESN’T MEAN THAT IS THEIR LOT. Pitbulls are a cross breed between bulldogs and terriers, bred to herd, and as pets.
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Only in American can a dog killer serve 2 years in prison, and a man killer serve 2 WEEKS!
RICHOCHET: And universally, regardless of the locale, you’re viewed as having your head up your ass. Don’t make up BS stories to try and help your ignorant view.
Hey…question is..to you BBQ or roast your neighbors pet?
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Pit Bulls are bred for fighting… cows are bred for eating…
RICHOCHET: And you, obviously, were bred to embarrass your country, whatever it is.
Again, dumbass, because someone INTENDS on breeding a dog for fighting, that is NOT WHAT THE DOG IS DESIGNED FOR. Unless you’re a lowlife scumbag.
Question I have, is..is this something your dad taught you? Or did you just develop into the scum part because of those you hang out with?
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I do not condone Michael Vicks actions but can we please step back and realize how ignorant we look when we hold dogs lives in higher regard than human lives!
RICHOCHET: you condone it EXACTLY. And I don’t see anyone holding him below a dog.
However, tit for tat.
Vick and one of the descendants of one of the dogs he brutally murdered by strangling, electrocuting, or BURYING ALIVE, in a pit.
Only fair.
Then you can bbq the loser for lunch.
Fair enough, moron?
February 5th, 2010 at 9:37 am
Why Not? What did he accomplish as the HC for the past 1.5 seasons?
February 5th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Well then go get a cock-roach 4a pet.Take it to yhe vet and get it its shots….make sure you dont 4get the heart-worm pills either.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:39 am
# Norco Bob Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Iv actually changed my mind on Vick,…dont want him anymore….I would rather come home greeted by my dogs after a loss with Russell, then be greeted by them after a win with Vick. Word.
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A revelation.
Let there be light.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:39 am
my pet cock-roach wont fetch
wont protect me either
February 5th, 2010 at 9:41 am
Stella!!
February 5th, 2010 at 9:41 am
My pet cock-roach DOES get along with the termites soo I guess thats a plus
February 5th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Just Captain Morgan 4me O….Stells is everything M Lontree and Vegas said SHE was lol
February 5th, 2010 at 9:42 am
nice mock Raider O!
I think I’d rather have McClain than Weatherspoon though…
February 5th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Smac—was the tiger put down?
As I recall, when the call went in, no immediate zoo personnel with any tranquilizer was on the spot, and SF police shot the tiger as it turned it’s attention towards the officers.
I doubt they would have killed the tiger if it had been back where it couldn’t attack again.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:44 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 9:39 am
my pet cock-roach wont fetch
wont protect me either
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However, she does clean up after herself.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:45 am
I remember Stella! She was something else. Me and Stella had good times.
Stella!!!
February 5th, 2010 at 9:46 am
OOOHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
my pet cock-roach was chasing the ball I was throwing to him and,and….and the ball rolled out into the ROAD and BWAAAA HAWWWW HAWWWW
February 5th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Richochet… #1 exactly what part of that did I make up for my own benefit? Michael Vick DID serve 2 years for killing dogs, and Dante Stallworth DID serve 15 DAYS for killing a man. #2 there is no reason to bring my father into this. You know nothing of me other than my opinion on Mike Vicks sentencing, hardly enough for you to form an opinion on my father. You my friend are the trashy one for even stooping to that point.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:47 am
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 8:47 am
# Richochet Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Didn’t say worse..I say it’s just above.
IMO..if you rape a woman, huevos should be cut off.
Abuse a child? Hands and huevos should be cut off.
Abuse a dog like Vick did? Slap a can of Alpo on his huevos, and let a pack of pit’s go at it.
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Alright then. . . . .took a year, but, we’ve finally agreed on something.
Can of Alpo.. . . . that was good!
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Not true.
Second time you agreed with me.
You probably blocked out the first one because of re-occurring nightmares.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:49 am
THX RR. I like spoon because he is more comfortable in space, and he can cover. We also ask a lot from our MLB, so Spoon may be a better fit for our man system.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Ricky, did you just claim that rednecks are the dog fighters? I’ve never heard anybody call Vick or DMX a redneck before. The only black redneck I’ve heard of is Darius Rucker
“that is NOT WHAT THE DOG IS DESIGNED FOR”
dogs were wild animals man. man made them into domestic pets. is that what the dog was “designed for” ? and how would you know? you got some connection to a higher power we don’t know about?
thats about equal to my view that deer hunting is fun because deer were born to shoot and end up on my grill wrapped in bacon for dinner…
February 5th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Im heading back to Tahoe again today,…cant get enough of that over bet,..56.5,..lock of the century,…I predict that bet pays off prior to 4th quarter.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:54 am
Michael Irving is a POS! After he trashed Gene Upshaw the day he died, I have no use for that loser.
I’m glad to see he got canned for possibly raping someone. I hope he rots in jail.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:54 am
Super Bowl final score 29-28… Norco Bob kills self on Monday… lol. Just kidding Bob… that is a pretty safe bet, but I wouldnt be at ALL surprised if these 2 high powered offenses put up very little points.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:54 am
here ya go Rockstar
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Ted Nugent, rock star and avid bow hunter from Michigan, was being interviewed by a French journalist, an animal rights activist.
The discussion came around to deer hunting.
The journalist asked, ‘What do you think is the last thought in the head of a deer before you shoot him? Is it, ‘Are you my friend?’ or is it ‘Are you the one who killed my brother?
Nugent replied, ‘Deer aren’t capable of that kind of thinking. All they care about is, what am I going to eat next, who am I going to screw next, and can I run fast enough to get away. They are very much like the French.’
The interview ended.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:56 am
# bcz24 Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Richochet… #1 exactly what part of that did I make up for my own benefit? Michael Vick DID serve 2 years for killing dogs, and Dante Stallworth DID serve 15 DAYS for killing a man.
RICHOCHET: First off, what country are YOU FROM that has different automatic sentences for drunk driving accidents, that is universal across your land? Yeah, Stallworth should have gotten a lot more, regardless of it being an “accident”.
Vick’s wasn’t an accident. He tortured the animals. No..BREEDING COWS AND HUMANELY BUTCHERING THEM isn’t torture. You understand the difference of torture as compared to putting an animal down? BIG DIFFERENCE..and putting dogs in a ring? Where they rip ears off, eyes out, jaws chewed off?? THAT’S TORTURE..and if you can’t see the difference, you are a freaking moron.
Again…what country you from? My money says you won’t cop to it, because you know damn well you’ll eat your workds.
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2 there is no reason to bring my father into this. You know nothing of me other than my opinion on Mike Vicks sentencing, hardly enough for you to form an opinion on my father.
RICHOCHET; Don’t abuse the right to act all confused. Question was where did you learn your backasswards views. See, YOU STATED THAT PITTS ARE BRED FOR FIGHTING…I pretty shoved that view up your ass, and you wisely avoided it..because it was a very ignorant small man view. Now, you HAD TO LEARN IT SOMEWHERE..wasn’t from school..so that narrows it down, doesn’t it? Peers or family is what’s left.
Deal with it.
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You my friend are the trashy one for even stooping to that point.
RICHOCHET: Riiiiiight…because I don’t share your ignorant view that dogs are disposable, and that torturing is nothing because, AS YOU STATED, “They’re bred for fighting”.
You’re an idiot..and honestly? I don’t hold that against your country, whatever it is.
Every country has them. Congrats on making your countries Dean’s List.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:56 am
‘Deer aren’t capable of that kind of thinking. All they care about is, what am I going to eat next, who am I going to screw next, and can I run fast enough to get away. They are very much like the French.’
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LOL! thats awesome 4eva. couldn’t agree more
February 5th, 2010 at 9:57 am
They are game aninals and multiply faster than rabbits.They often starve in winter.Killing them humanly and enjoying them wrapped in bacon is the way it is.That said we MUST be good stewards
February 5th, 2010 at 10:00 am
No..BREEDING COWS AND HUMANELY BUTCHERING THEM isn’t torture.
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cows & chickens “humanely” butchered?
you don’t watch the news much, do ya?
that was a very ignorant statement. the only reason you made it is to make yourself feel better about eating beef & chicken, rather than dog (like the vietnamese do) …
February 5th, 2010 at 10:03 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Ricky, did you just claim that rednecks are the dog fighters? I’ve never heard anybody call Vick or DMX a redneck before. The only black redneck I’ve heard of is Darius Rucker
RICHOCHET: LOL…from the resident redneck. Well, hell, you would know..I’m sure. However, what’s one person’s redneck is someone else’s relative..and it’s all relative..I’m sure.
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“that is NOT WHAT THE DOG IS DESIGNED FOR”
dogs were wild animals man. man made them into domestic pets. is that what the dog was “designed for” ? and how would you know? you got some connection to a higher power we don’t know about?
RICHOCHET: Read again. Said that the pitt was bred between bulldogs and terriers..the intent was a herder and also became evident they made good companions/pets. Didn’t say why God created dogs. However, I can safely say I don’t believe ANY THING WAS CREATED WITH THE SOLE INTENT IT BE TORTURED..at any level..do you?
BC’s head up ass view was “Hey, they’re bred for fighting” so let them suffer. What’s the big deal.
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thats about equal to my view that deer hunting is fun because deer were born to shoot and end up on my grill wrapped in bacon for dinner…
RICHOCHET: Makes no sense…at all. I won’t ask you to try and associate the two, because you can’t, and you’ll just hurt yourself trying.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:03 am
“The American Pit Bull Terrier is the product of interbreeding between terriers and a breed of bulldogs to produce a dog that combined the gameness of the terrier with the strength and athleticism of the bulldog…bred for their fighting prowess, and starting in the early 20th century, they began to replace the bull terrier as the “dog of choice” for dog fighting in the United States.”
Not my words Richochet… this is fact.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:08 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 10:00 am
No..BREEDING COWS AND HUMANELY BUTCHERING THEM isn’t torture.
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cows & chickens “humanely” butchered?
you don’t watch the news much, do ya?
that was a very ignorant statement. the only reason you made it is to make yourself feel better about eating beef & chicken, rather than dog (like the vietnamese do) …
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Oh geez…more ignorant crap.
HEY..MORON??? If it’s in the news, then SOMEONE’S ASS WAS RAKED OVER THE COALS BECAUSE SOMEONE DIDN’T HUMANELY PUT THEM DOWN.
What’s next? ‘Oh..uh…someone abused a horse” “I heard about someone not properly killing a sheep”??
Didn’t say there aren’t other lowlife scumbags, like BC, or you, in this country..their are lots.
And, like Vick..if/when you’re caught..you too get to experience the hospitality that only you deserve.
You’re a racist redneck…I don’t expect you to agree. Hell, I would bet every penny that you not only attend dog fights, but defend them..but not on this board.
Why do I just know that to be the case?
February 5th, 2010 at 10:09 am
Pit Bulls were not always thought of this way….B4 there was indoor plumbing and the nanny had to go outside to relieve herself,the Pit-Bull was left to guard the children.They were called nanny-sitters,for when the nanny had to sit.
But I dont take a books author as proof.I had German-shepherds all my life.I kept reading in the paper pit-bull blah blah blah,so I got one.Roxie is 4 years old now and the sweetest friendliest pit you will ever meet….It’s not the dog…its their handlers
February 5th, 2010 at 10:10 am
“BC’s head up ass view was “Hey, they’re bred for fighting” so let them suffer. What’s the big deal.”
I never said it wasnt a big deal. Again, since your only quoted the portions of what I said to suit you, I never condoned the fighting of the dogs, nor did I condone the treatment of them when they were not fighting. My ENTIRE ISSUE is whats wrong with the American (yes Rich I am American) Justice system that a man can serve a FAR WORSE PENALTY for killing dogs (dogs that were initially bred for the purpose of fighting) than for killing a man. If I was drunk and accidentally killed a man with my car I would be charged with vehicular manslaughtered and serve no less than 10 years in prison. Stallworth had the money to pay off the family of the victim (estimated 5 million) so he only serves 15 days? That is my problem dude. On its own accord, what Vick did what disgusting and reprehensible, BUT he should not be punished MORE harshely than someone who commited a crime against man.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Ricky,
how many rednecks do you know, or even heard of that are involved with dog fighting?
quick. google search it!
LOL
by the way, I’ve never known pitbulls to be herders or good companions… most people buy them because they have a “tough” image. It’s quite silly. sort of like a short guy buying a big truck. it’s called little man syndrome
February 5th, 2010 at 10:10 am
The Little Rascals had 1 for fukks sake
February 5th, 2010 at 10:12 am
I would bet every penny that you not only attend dog fights, but defend them..but not on this board.
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Ricky,
how much money you got?
February 5th, 2010 at 10:12 am
WHY DIDN’T YOU INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS, BC?
“The American Pit Bull Terrier is the product of interbreeding between terriers and a breed of bulldogs to produce a dog that combined the gameness of the terrier with the strength and athleticism of the bulldog.[1] These dogs were initially bred in England, Ireland, and Scotland, and arrived in the United States with immigrants from these countries. In the United States, these dogs were used as catch dogs for semi-wild cattle and hogs, to hunt, to drive livestock, and as family companions;[1] however, some were selectively bred for their fighting prowess,[5] and starting in the early 20th century, they began to replace the bull terrier as the “dog of choice” for dog fighting in the United States.[6]however, American pit bull terriers in general have a higher tendency towards dog aggression[11] and constitute the majority of dogs used for illegal dog fighting in the United States.[12] In addition, law enforcement organizations report these dogs are used for other nefarious purposes, such as guarding illegal narcotics operations,[13] personal protection and use against the police,[14] and as weapons.[15]
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You pull out a comment in the middle of it, where it clearly states that SOME PEOPLE DID BREED THEM FOR ILLEGAL DOG FIGHTING.
Selective BULL**** pasting there, BC.
The fact you still defend your archaic view makes you an even bigger ass, IMO
February 5th, 2010 at 10:13 am
4eva… a friend of mine has a pit that is just the sweetest thing ever, big snuggly dummy is all it is, but it is still dog aggressive. Not anything the owner has ever done, but when he walks the pit it gets very aggressive towards other dogs. That is a major trademark of the breed which goes back to there initial breeding.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:15 am
BC…honestly…you’re one ignorant clown..aren’t you?
Seriously.
You read that some HUMAN bred an animal for a certain purpose, and now, in your narrow minded view, that it’s now permissible to TORTURE THAT ANIMAL because some jerk bred it with the intent of torturing it.
Are you honestly telling me you don’t grasp what I just posted?
Are you honestly saying you are that easily manipulated and led by the nose because you can’t use common sense?
February 5th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Vicks was PRE MEDITATED
February 5th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Ricky,
you should be a politician. every time somebody asks you a pointed or direct question you issue a long response with lots of name calling and few facts. once you strip away the name calling and opinion you realize that you’ve basically talked in circles and avoided the question all together.
why waste your time to issue an essay about squat?
you might as well copy & paste an article about rainbows or leprechauns…
February 5th, 2010 at 10:18 am
# bcz24 Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 10:13 am
4eva… a friend of mine has a pit that is just the sweetest thing ever, big snuggly dummy is all it is, but it is still dog aggressive. Not anything the owner has ever done, but when he walks the pit it gets very aggressive towards other dogs. That is a major trademark of the breed which goes back to there initial breeding.
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LOL..dude you are so naive.
Oh..uh…my neighbor? Has a chihuahua…vicious little mother…barks and goes after everything.
Another one has 3 rotts and a pitt…they walk and are as docile as you can get…
BECAUSE ONE OF THE DOG OWNERS IS PACK LEADER..THE OTHER IS NOT.
Has nothing to do with the breed.
Again, lol…you are so naive.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:20 am
Stop putting words in my mouth dude. Cut and paste anywhere from this board where I even alluded to it being ok. NO WHERE ON HERE! YOU CAN NOT FIND IT BECAUSE I NEVER SAID IT! Sorry if I hold human life in a higher regard than a dogs life. If some delibrately killed a 100 dogs, and someone else killed your father, brother, son etc. while driving drunk who would you want to see penalized more severely. I dont understand how you can call me ignorant, and still miss my entire point every time!
February 5th, 2010 at 10:20 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Ricky,
you should be a politician. every time somebody asks you a pointed or direct question you issue a long response with lots of name calling and few facts. once you strip away the name calling and opinion you realize that you’ve basically talked in circles and avoided the question all together.
why waste your time to issue an essay about squat?
you might as well copy & paste an article about rainbows or leprechauns…
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Don’t bow out, coward.
Diversion replies means you had your ass handed to you.
Read that again.
See..IF YOU HAD A RETORT THAT BACKED YOUR VIEW, you would post it.
You don’t. Because you’re wrong. And you wisely hope this idiot reply bails you out.
It didn’t. Find your balls and either man up, or shut up.
You just got slammed, dude..and yes, if I were you, I would tuck tail as well.
Prove me wrong.
You won’t..because you can’t.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Ricky,
say somebody broke into your home …
would you rather have them rape your sister or kill your dog?
February 5th, 2010 at 10:22 am
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February 5th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Trade DMAC for a humanely butchered cow!
February 5th, 2010 at 10:23 am
BC..DID YOU NOT SAY WHAT’S THE BIG DEAL, THAT THESE DOGS WERE BRED FOR FIGHTING?
Wasn’t that you?
is that enough to point out your narrow view?
And again, you selectively pull a comment in the middle of a take that clearly stated it was illegal..you just conveninently left it out.
Also clearly stated Stallworth deserved more time..but that has NOTHING TO DO WITH A GUY LYING TO A GRAND JURY over torturing animals.
I’m glad he lied. Means he got the max in prison.
Again..what’s your country?
February 5th, 2010 at 10:23 am
BCZ24….Your friends Pit would be classified as a danger-zone blood line.What your friend NEEDS 2 DO is…. tell him to buy a thick rope.throw it over a branch and have it about 4 or 5 feet off the ground.My Pit hangs on that damn rope a couple hours a day and gets her aggression out.These dogs are very physical and DEMAND lots of exercise to tire them out.Most people,sadly,down do the required discipline the dog NEEDS and when they “turn” aggressive its always the dogs fault. THAT is total BULLSH!T,imo
February 5th, 2010 at 10:23 am
You just got slammed, dude
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LOL. Ricky just finished watching “you got served” or something. what a clown. seriously
who says that?
February 5th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Rockstar..LIKE I SAID==
Don’t bow out, coward.
Diversion replies means you had your ass handed to you.
Read that again.
See..IF YOU HAD A RETORT THAT BACKED YOUR VIEW, you would post it.
You don’t. Because you’re wrong. And you wisely hope this idiot reply bails you out.
It didn’t. Find your balls and either man up, or shut up.
You just got slammed, dude..and yes, if I were you, I would tuck tail as well.
Prove me wrong.
You won’t..because you can’t.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:26 am
Ricky you can not be proven wrong simply because reason and fact do not appeal to you. Your opinion is the only thing that is right, everybody else is stupid. I sincerely hope the is your “internet persona” only because you will live a long and lonely life if you are like that in reality. I have seen it 100 times since I started frequenting this blog. Some states something, you disagree, and automatically call them stupid and ignorant and blah blah blah… its old dude. I am done… if you can sit in front of your computer feeling you won something, then congrats.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:26 am
See..IF YOU HAD A RETORT THAT BACKED YOUR VIEW, you would post it.
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what questions did you ask that I didn’t reply to?
I reply to ignorant questions and some ignorant comments, but not EVERY ignorant comment. we’d be here all day!
February 5th, 2010 at 10:29 am
BCZ24: reply to post #621
it’s called a destructive personality. some people are addicted to chaos. they choose to live that way and they enjoy it. they don’t understand that the rest of the world just ignores them and laughs from a distance
February 5th, 2010 at 10:30 am
lmao Bo !
February 5th, 2010 at 10:30 am
ah, the idiocy of it all…
other than humans, cattle the most noxious and destructively invasive species that the Old World ever foisted upon the New.
the longhorn which adapted to the scrub of the Southwest aside, cattle are incapable of surviving without pampering by their human lords.
time to have a National Eat a Cow Week. yes, you can keep dairy cattle around as a sustainable cheap source of protein, but eat the rest of them until they’re gone.
Let the bison roam where they belong!
February 5th, 2010 at 10:30 am
4eva… he has a rope in the tree. I think its absolutely hilarious when the dog is just swingin’ away on that thing. Dog gets a lot of exercise and is very obedient, doesnt attack other dogs, but does need to be corrected in the presence of other dogs because it has dog aggression in its personality.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:30 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Ricky,
how many rednecks do you know, or even heard of that are involved with dog fighting?
quick. google search it!
LOL
by the way, I’ve never known pitbulls to be herders or good companions… most people buy them because they have a “tough” image. It’s quite silly. sort of like a short guy buying a big truck. it’s called little man syndrome
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LMFAO…look at you..professing to be an expert on rednecks.
You’re just not all that bright, are you?
You actually think a redneck has a sign on his head, saying ‘I’s a redneck’??? Are you honestly this slow, Racist scumbag?
And the dumbest comment “I’ve never known pit bulls to be herders or good companions”??
Why do I take the time to school your ignorant ass? lol..I mean, it’s almost child’s play getting over on you.
I know lots of people with dogs, all breeds, including pitts..as do most here.
None would make your idiot comment..NONE..(except for the baffoon from overseas/across the border, who makes it clear education isn’t his countries main priority..right, BC?
February 5th, 2010 at 10:32 am
M… cows were also proven to be the #1 source of OZone depleting gasses. Humans fault for breeding them to that extent, but who knew they farted so damn much.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:33 am
Trade McF for a hearty rendition of Home on the Range.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:33 am
BC..sorry little man…weak cop out
expect it.
After all, your morals were called to task.
Then your idiot reply was proved to be even more ignorant than your premise.
You were done before you started.
Oh…uh…the country? lol…yeah…I have a feeling THAT QUESTION ALONE MADE YOU BOW OUT.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:34 am
you just described my 19 year-old daughter Rockstar
February 5th, 2010 at 10:36 am
Ricky,
way to talk in circles again. now please explain why rednecks are dog fighters. give me some examples
theres no way to back out of your ignorant comment now.
you said it. back it up
February 5th, 2010 at 10:36 am
Pitt bulls are worthless.
Cows are great.
And Michael Vick is a schitty QB.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:36 am
BCZ24….All dogs are aggressive when they are at their OWN home….out in public my Pit is fine.I even take her to dog parks and never have trouble she would rather play
February 5th, 2010 at 10:37 am
you just described my 19 year-old daughter
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sorry 4eva! no offense
February 5th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Rich… believe whatever you want buddy. I just wont let you push my buttons. I am not feeble enough to let your words effect me in the least. My point has been made, I have no further reason to dwell on it. Do me a favor though, go get yourself a thesaurus and look up some new words to insult me with for the next time ok little buddy.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:37 am
# Richochet Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Smac—was the tiger put down?
As I recall, when the call went in, no immediate zoo personnel with any tranquilizer was on the spot, and SF police shot the tiger as it turned it’s attention towards the officers.
I doubt they would have killed the tiger if it had been back where it couldn’t attack again.
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My bad.
You’re right – I forgot that the cops did indeed shoot the tiger.
With that being said, I disagree that they would NOT have put the animal down. Every time something like this happens, they put the animal down and it’s simply ludicrous. For crying out loud, put the animal back into the wild. If it doesn’t survive on its own, so be it. But, to decide that it’s life must end as the result of it behaving “inhumanly” – I can’t stand that.
Also, bcz24. . . .NO animal is born to be bred for fighting or killing purposes.
I have a German Shepherd. My 2 year old daughter sits on his head while he’s laying on the floor.
She pulls him by the ears.
She pulls his tale and pokes his eyes.
And if he can’t stand it anymore, the worst thing he does is turn and walk away.
And if anyone dared to try and harm her, he would unleash a devilish wrath on that person.
The point is, any animal is what you shape it to be.
I used to think that Pit Bull’s were naturally unpredictable and aggressive by nature. I based that opinion, not because of the dog fighting stories, but rather, because of the stories I’d read of people’s pets suddenly turning on their own owners.
But the more I’ve met people with pit bulls who are surrounded by joy and love, the more I’ve come to realize that these animals can also be “ultimate” family pets, like any other.
I realize that in the evolutionary sense, that it’s hypocritical to say that it’s o.k. to spear a fish and eat it, but, cruel to spear a dog and eat it.
But, I suppose that as human beings, there has to be a line drawn somewhere.
As Richo said, it is NOT cool to drown a dog because it performed poorly in a fight.
You could even justify certain countries skinning dogs and eating them for food. At least they are using the animal for food purposes.
But torturing an animal for human benefit or entertainment is just evil.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:38 am
well said Dakota..
and McFadden?
February 5th, 2010 at 10:38 am
meant to say “tail”, not “tale”
February 5th, 2010 at 10:38 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 8:25 am
With that, the executive director of the NFL Players Association painted perhaps the bleakest picture yet regarding prospects of labor strife in the league, which could be looking at a 2010 season with no salary cap and, if the collective bargaining agreement expires as scheduled in March 2011, a lockout that year.
“I keep coming back to an economic model in America that is unparalleled,” said Smith, who often repeated phrases for emphasis. “And that makes it incredibly difficult to then come to players and say, on average, each of you needs to take a $340,000 pay cut to save the National Football League. Tough sell. Tough sell.”
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what would these players be doing without the NFL and how much money would they be making? the players should accept whatever the NFL demands imo. they are playing a friggin sport for a living and that is considered a luxury. How many of these highly touted athletes have degrees to fall back on? I’m guessing it’s not the majority of them. they’d be limited to asst coaching jobs and grunt work for little pay
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Here we go again….with the owners and players arguing over millions of dollars……not thousands, not hundreds of thousands…..we are talking MILLIONS!
The players taking potentially and allegedly a 350K paycut…..is NOTHING!
These players make enough damn money as it is, so they should shut their greedy azzes up and just play football and try and not to do drugs, beat their wives, drive drunk and shoot kill somebody in the process.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Pitt bull owners all say the same thing after their dog rips the face off of a child…”She was just the sweetest thing, never hurt anyone before!”
February 5th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Does your wife know about you and my daughter Rockstar?
February 5th, 2010 at 10:40 am
And McFadden will show all you doubters!
February 5th, 2010 at 10:40 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Ricky, did you just claim that rednecks are the dog fighters? I’ve never heard anybody call Vick or DMX a redneck before. The only black redneck I’ve heard of is Darius Rucker
RICHOCHET: LOL…from the resident redneck. Well, hell, you would know..I’m sure. However, what’s one person’s redneck is someone else’s relative..and it’s all relative..I’m sure.
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“that is NOT WHAT THE DOG IS DESIGNED FOR”
dogs were wild animals man. man made them into domestic pets. is that what the dog was “designed for” ? and how would you know? you got some connection to a higher power we don’t know about?
RICHOCHET: Read again. Said that the pitt was bred between bulldogs and terriers..the intent was a herder and also became evident they made good companions/pets. Didn’t say why God created dogs. However, I can safely say I don’t believe ANY THING WAS CREATED WITH THE SOLE INTENT IT BE TORTURED..at any level..do you?
BC’s head up ass view was “Hey, they’re bred for fighting” so let them suffer. What’s the big deal.
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thats about equal to my view that deer hunting is fun because deer were born to shoot and end up on my grill wrapped in bacon for dinner…
RICHOCHET: Makes no sense…at all. I won’t ask you to try and associate the two, because you can’t, and you’ll just hurt yourself trying.
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DUDE…YOU SCREAM REDNECK.
Yeah, LMFAO that you get all butt hurt that you and what you hold dear is outed.
Your problem, Racist Scumbag..not mine.
Oh..wait…is the mental midget asking “Does EVERY REDNECK fight dogs”?? lol…or…are you asking “Is everyone who fights dogs automatically a redneck’??
Did I state that, peanut?
LMAO at you making it clear where you fall in these categories.
Why do I just know your Uncle Ed drives a pickup welded together with a old studebaker, and calls it a limo?
February 5th, 2010 at 10:41 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 10:10 am
It’s quite silly. sort of like a short guy buying a big truck. it’s called little man syndrome.
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Ummm, Mr. Rockstar? Weren’t you here bragging about being a “Chevy man” and how your big, tough Silverado mutilated a Miata?
How “tall” so you see yourself? Deep down…
February 5th, 2010 at 10:42 am
So what are the actual odds we could land McNabb?
20% maybe?
I would have no problem with McNabb, Grad & Russell as my QB’s next year.
The pressure would totally be off the Raiders for Russell needing to be ready to play in 2010.
McNabb would have 2 good years left in him – enough to help the Raiders get into the playoffs.
Gradkowski and Russell would be good enough to have as backups if McNabb missed a couple of games.
This koolaid is really good.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Ricky, I read your comments once already. you still didn’t offer any examples or reasoning behind your comment…
please explain why rednecks are dog fighters. give me some examples
theres no way to back out of your ignorant comment now.
you said it. back it up
February 5th, 2010 at 10:44 am
Yeah, I’d take McNabb, but I have a sneaking suspicion that he would retire rather than play for the Raiders.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:45 am
Smac, I agree with your post 100%. (1 thing though, Chows DO flip on their owners, some mental issue in the breed, i dont know much about it, regardless of upbringing or environment) Richochet just missed the premise of my post. It didn’t condone Vicks actions. It merely stated my disgust for the American Justice System. I described the dogs in the manner I did simply to illustrate the fact that they were held in a higher regard than human life. Rich just interpreted that as me being a dog fighter, vick supporter or whatever else he wanted to say, and totally glossed over the real point I was making over and over again, and conviently negleted to answer the questions posed by myself and rockstar concerning something closer to himself personally.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:45 am
McNabb puts the Raiders in the playoffs?? LOL!!!!!!!!!
February 5th, 2010 at 10:45 am
Weren’t you here bragging about being a “Chevy man” and how your big, tough Silverado mutilated a Miata?
How “tall” so you see yourself? Deep down…
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no. my S10 totalled a Miata like 10 years ago
I got a Silverado now though
I’m 6′1″ 195 lbs. is that considered “little”?
maybe in America. LOL
February 5th, 2010 at 10:46 am
arent republican hockey moms refeered to as pit-bulls?
February 5th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Rico,
I agree,
as your torturing of this blogsite with your sniping and twisting ways for your own self-entertainment is indeed a dark path.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Does McNabb play Qb AND WR AND RB AND OT AND G AND LB?
February 5th, 2010 at 10:48 am
I see your viqueens got beat there Ron
February 5th, 2010 at 10:48 am
# RaiderRon Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 10:45 am
McNabb puts the Raiders in the playoffs?? LOL!!!!!!!!!
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Uh.. .well, let’s see:
With Bruce Gradkowski playing (i.e. the Raiders getting DECENT QB play), we went 2-1.
And that was with a crap O-Line.
So you’re telling me that this team, with a couple of changes in the O-Line and McNabb at the helm would NOT make the playoffs?
February 5th, 2010 at 10:48 am
# Dakota Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Pitt bull owners all say the same thing after their dog rips the face off of a child…”She was just the sweetest thing, never hurt anyone before!”
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Don’t Rott owners also say that?
Bulldog owners? What ever dog does something like that?
However, you are right that they are very aggressive..and I don’t think anyone with small children should own one, but they do.
I wouldn’t, just because of the fact of their lockjaw, and their aggression.
Pitts and Rotts are two breeds that need a very strong dominant owner. I have a Rott/Lab mix, and she knows she’s way down the pecking order in the family.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:49 am
Does McNabb play Qb AND WR AND RB AND OT AND G AND LB?
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hey Ron, if he can at least play Qb thats a step in the right direction, no?
McNabb is proven. I’d trade a 1st rounder for him today
February 5th, 2010 at 10:50 am
dakota,
I don’t doubt McF. I didn’t doubt that he was a poor choice. I never doubted that he wouldn’t amount to much as a pro RB. I don’t doubt that he will continue to disappoint.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Richo:
Dude –
Try and get along with everyone, just for a day.
It may actually feel good.
Shiot, we all disagree on a whole lot of shiot around here.
But it’s just smack talk man. With you, it seems like you truly wish death on those who disagree with you LOL
February 5th, 2010 at 10:51 am
hey Ricky,
how many dogs can you fit in your purse when you go to the mall?
February 5th, 2010 at 10:52 am
I think D-Mac will have a great year this year.
I really do.
All it takes for that to happen is stability at the QB position.
If we get that, D-Mac will ultimately prove to be a good player and so will DHB.
I promise you that.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:53 am
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP) NFL commissioner Roger Goodell says Cleveland Browns wide receiver Donte’ Stallworth will be reinstated from his suspension for killing a pedestrian while driving drunk.
At his annual Super Bowl-week news conference Friday, Goodell said Stallworth’s suspension will be lifted after the Super Bowl on Sunday.
Goodell said he met with Stallworth about a month ago, and the receiver is “in a better place than he was.” Goodell said Stallworth recognizes what he did and has prepared himself to return to the NFL.
Stallworth spent 24 days in jail for a DUI manslaughter conviction in the case. The accident occurred last March in South Florida, and he was suspended without pay last August.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:53 am
if cromartie is available and afc west insider bill williamson says he is for possibly a 3rd rounder, i’d do it, but whats the chances we deal with the chargers.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:53 am
# M Lonetree Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Rico,
I agree,
as your torturing of this blogsite with your sniping and twisting ways for your own self-entertainment is indeed a dark path.
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Some take a stand. My choice.
Some stay in the shadows, waiting for others..while chiding them exercising their views. Your choice.
Some engage. My choice.
Some sit back with petty weak ignorant little self serving quips that apparently give them inner chuckles, which everyone else completely ignores…your choice.
Don’t get me wrong.
Everyone has the right to post and prove they’re tantamount to a fly, and quickly discarded/ignored.
That’s just the way you roll.
your choice.
Now..quick..attempt to defuse my comments feigning disinterest. As only you can.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:54 am
BCZ24,
What you have to understand is that society, through the justice system, puts a premium on preventing organized crime and punishes people when they lie and cover up crimes. That is why Vick was punished so severely. If he had simply killed a dog it would have been a misdemeanor, but he ran an illegal, organized crime syndicate and tried to cover it up.
We choose, through our legislators, to place harsher punishments on crimes involving criminal intent. Unfortunate incidents where drinking and driving results in the loss of a human life, especially in Stallworth’s case where the victim contributed to his own demise by running into the street, lack the criminal intent element.
If you form the intent to kill a dog and you form the intent to kill a human, then the justice system clearly falls on the side of protecting human life.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:54 am
dolts won’t ship Cromartie to Oakland.
and that’d be a pretty darn expensive nickel back anyways!
February 5th, 2010 at 10:55 am
McNabb doesn’t withstand pressure nor beatdowns very well at all.
McNabb has definitely lost a step in his running ability.
McNabb = trips to the disabled list and opportunities for second string QBs.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:56 am
Dakota:
Well said – that’s absolutely the difference in those 2 cases.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:56 am
i know we have bigger needs than another cb but he’s still young, athletic, and pretty raw just like al likes ‘em.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:57 am
McNabb is, right now, WAY better than anything we have right now.
And McNabb is, right now, still in the top-10 QB’s in the league.
I doubt we could name 9 QB’s truly better than him right now.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:58 am
M,
look at resume for McNabb vs anybody else we got on the roster. you seriously don’t think he’d be an upgrade? I’m not saying Super Bowl here, but I think 8 or 9 wins is a possibility
February 5th, 2010 at 11:01 am
i’d use cromartie as our #2 cb and move cj to nickel, i’m not aware of his contract situation though but just a thought. cj moving to nickel would make him an expensive nickel back.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Dakota, that is not the exact difference in the 2 cases. There is a large precedent for those who commit vehicular manslaugter while under the influence to do serious jail time, many times the consumption of alcohol prior to driving the motor vehicle is considered intent by prosecutors. Intent was not factored in at all when it came to Stallworth. The fact that he paid the victims family an undisclosed amount of money (estimated at $5million) made the difference in his sentencing.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:02 am
So, DeMaurice Smith rates the probability of a lockout in 2011 as a 14 on a 1-10 scale.
Owners will still receive 5 billion in TV revenues whether there are games played in 2011 or not.
Perhaps the only better sports scam is the old owners of the St Louis Spirit ABA team receiving 20-some million dollars per annum from the NBA for NOT having a team in St Louis.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:07 am
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Richo:
Dude –
Try and get along with everyone, just for a day.
It may actually feel good.
Shiot, we all disagree on a whole lot of shiot around here.
But it’s just smack talk man. With you, it seems like you truly wish death on those who disagree with you LOL
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Geez…I’m laughing as I post..it’s entertainment.
Now..YOU would be the last to comment on “intensity”..as witnessed by some of your previous tirades, to go along with mine.
As far as smack?
Isn’t it all smack?..some of us just do it more effectively than others
February 5th, 2010 at 11:07 am
M Lonetree Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Owners will still receive 5 billion in TV revenues whether there are games played in 2011 or not.
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Do you have a link to support that assumption?
February 5th, 2010 at 11:08 am
Rd1 – MLB Brandon Spikes
Rd2 – DT Lamarr Houston
Rd3 – QB Dan Lefevour
Rd3 – OL
Rd4 – CB
Rd5 – FB/TE/WR Dorin Dickerson
Sign FA G Marshall Yanda from Baltimore.
Sign FA LT Jammal Brown from the Saints or trade to get LT Matt Light from the Patriots.
Franchise Richard Seymour.
Re-sign Bruce Gradkowski.
Re-sign Seabass.
Re-sign Thomas Howard.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:08 am
McNabb vs. . . .
1. Cutler: I take McNabb
2. Leinart: I take McNabb
3. A. Smith: I take McNabb
4. Hasselbeck: I take McNabb
5. Boldger: I take McNabb
6. Gradkowski/Russell: I take McNabb
7. Flacco: I take McNabb
8. Cassel: I take McNabb
9. Ortona: I take McNabb
10. Palmer: I take McNabb
11. Schaub: I take McNabb (yes, Mcnabb)
12: Favre: I take McNabb (yes, Mcnabb)
13. T. Edwards: I take McNabb
14. Sanchez; I take McNabb
15. Garrard: I take McNabb
16. Campbell: I take McNabb
The only QB’s I’d rather have right now than McNabb:
1. Both Mannings
2. Rothlesberger
3. Matt Ryan
4. Brady
5. Brees
6. Rivers
7. Rogers
8. Romo
I guess I DID name 9 QB’s ahead of McNabb! LOL
With that said, are you telling me you wouldn’t want a top-10 QB starting behind center for us?
February 5th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Yes Rockstar, SilverNSmac,
Donovan would be an upgrade over present company.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:09 am
I would love to draft Ryan Mathews on this team. (I think he’s going to be a good all aroung back)
1. Bush always needs a breather
2. Huggy bear is getting old
3. DMAC…well we all know
February 5th, 2010 at 11:09 am
I had a dream last night. We got to the playoffs next year. Then the players like in baseball walked out because of no contract and threat of 2011 lockout.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Yeah, Richo,
I admit that I’ve blasted you pretty good LOL
Hey man, rip on my Raiders too much and I go postal.
Can’t help it.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:11 am
Then I heard a sportscaster give that as a possibility due to no other leverage.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:11 am
M Lonetree Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Owners will still receive 5 billion in TV revenues whether there are games played in 2011 or not.
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Do you have a link to support that statement?
February 5th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Theory is they will have gotten their 2010 money and the NFL does not want to lose the revenue from the playoffs. By the way, the NFL gets their 2011 TV money lockout or not.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:14 am
KoolKell Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 11:11 am
M Lonetree Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Owners will still receive 5 billion in TV revenues whether there are games played in 2011 or not.
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Do you have a link to support that statement?
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NFL has that language in their contract.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:14 am
KoolKell,
the 5 billion dollar owner scam was told by DeMaurice Smith to reporters in an AP article I read in the Trib today.
should be easy enough for a reporter to fact check that so I doubt Smith was lying about it.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:15 am
ExLa
Are you sure TV money comes if there’s a strike? any links?
February 5th, 2010 at 11:15 am
# KoolKell Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 11:11 am
M Lonetree Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Owners will still receive 5 billion in TV revenues whether there are games played in 2011 or not.
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Do you have a link to support that statement?
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KoolKell:
Were a judge at some point in your life?
Just curious.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:15 am
M Lonetree
Ok.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Kell, I dont have a link about the TV revenue, but Peter King has mentioned it a few times in his MMQB column when talking about the potential of a lockout. Think about it though, the owners would never lock out the players if they didnt stand to make money some how.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:18 am
KoolKell Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 11:15 am
ExLa
Are you sure TV money comes if there’s a strike? any links?
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Looking for it
February 5th, 2010 at 11:18 am
Nope, never been a judge. But one has to be careful about postings.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Because I’m skeptical, I would imagine there’d be a clause in those TV contracts in the case of a work stoppage.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Man. . . .
I hate football off-season.
This 7 years of hell has been torturous.
I can’t wait for August to roll around.
Regardless of how it shapes up, I can’t wait for Raider ball man!
February 5th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Even if there is no 2011 season, here’s hoping things’ll be in place so that there can be a game in the Black Hole on 12-21-2012.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:23 am
“One has to be careful about postings”
- KrappyKell
2/5/10
The end of civilization as we know it has arrived.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Soon as I land in here the trolls come out.
Beecham, you’ve got the KoolKell watch today? till 5pm?
February 5th, 2010 at 11:25 am
KoolKell,
Here’s a Peter King link:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/03/24/meetings/index.html
February 5th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Beeeeeeecham,
LOL.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Kell: Closest thing I have found with regards to the TV revenue
http://harvardsportsanalysis.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/television-and-the-potential-nfl-lockout/
February 5th, 2010 at 11:30 am
ExLa
Wow, thanks.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:31 am
EXLA – that was the exact Peter King article I was refering to!
February 5th, 2010 at 11:32 am
From Bloomberg yesterday,
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601079&sid=aGNDGoWKz5tI
February 5th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Thanks Bcz24
Damned good deal, no?
February 5th, 2010 at 11:35 am
Well, I’ve got a meeting around 1:30 and then will probably hit the home gym around 5:30 – gotta hot date with the PX90. Gotta look fly for Baja, bizzniddy.
So I’ll be able to party most of the day on the blog, with you Krap Krap.
What time will you be heading down to the barber shop to get your head dunked in the comb sanitizer? Maybe I can pull a few strings so we can coordinate our schedules better.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:35 am
“This guy, it’s got to come from within,” Gannon said of Russell. “He’s got between now and April 1. He’s got a lot of work to do just in terms of getting himself physically and mentally prepared, just for the offseason program. It’s not OK anymore to come into the offseason program and get yourself in shape. It’s not OK anymore to come in 30 or 40 pounds overweight and hope that by the time training camp comes around … This game has changed.
“As a quarterback, you have to be the leader of the football team. If you walk in the door not mentally or physically ready, I think it sets you back. I think he’s lost the confidence and the trust of the coaching staff and his teammates in the locker room,. Until he wins that back, I think it’s going to be an uphill battle.”
-David White (SF Gate)
February 5th, 2010 at 11:35 am
Good if your an owner, no good if your a player or a fan. 2011 Im a UFL fan! LOL… I might die from withdrawel if I go that long without FOOSBALL!
February 5th, 2010 at 11:35 am
Got to step out for a while. No politics when I get back. lol.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:35 am
Well, considering the NFL’s apparent leverage, looks like there will damn sure be a rookie cap coming. Which is great.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:36 am
Hey KK!, still think Mr Davis is hurting for cash? still think the other owners are looking at him as deterent for profitability.
Mr Davis is raking in millions from Raider image stores per day, ong before he gets his check for TV.
Hell Directv alone paid them 4 billion over the next 4 years. Gate rec. are almost spending change to these guy’s. TV runs everything
February 5th, 2010 at 11:36 am
On hiring of OC Hue Jackson: You can have some great coaches around you but if you don’t take advantage of the opportunities and take advantage of their wealth of experience … Hue Jackson was very instrumental in working with Carson Palmer. You look at what he’s done with Joe Flacco. Everywhere Hue’s been, he’s made an impact.”
Side note: Keep in mind, Gannon is a huge, huge Paul Hackett fan, called him the best quarterbacks teacher out there (he played for Hackett in Kansas City). Gannon made it clear the key to Russell isn’t better teaching. It’s getting inside his head and getting him motivated to work on what’s being taught.
-David White (SF Gate)
February 5th, 2010 at 11:37 am
That is awesome Kell. I was an advocate of the rookie cap even before Jameatloaf swindled us out of $30+ million.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:40 am
On the current state of the Raiders: “People ask what’s the problem now. Well, it’s gone back to being the way it was before. They don’t have enough leadership to fight through it. Part of my legacy was helping turn the place around, make it a competitive place, and we had a lot of success before I got hurt. Those three eyars where we won three division titles and played in two AFC championship games, we were one of the more competitive places in the league.
“It pains me to see how things are now. I’ve still got teammates there, Shane Lechler and Sebastian Janikowski, guys I took under my wing when they first came into the building. I know they don’t feel like they really have a chance when they play certain teams. Unfortunately for those type of guys, when they came in they were playing playoff games, they were playing on national TV all the time. They figured that’s how it was and they haven’t gotten a sniff since. They realize how hard it is.”
-David White (SF Gate)
February 5th, 2010 at 11:42 am
From Raider image stores and that Raider image licensing and so forth it’s very tough to weaken these guy’s people are buying this stuff 24/7 online. NFL Network and the league itself is huge boon to these guy’s. How can a few tickets sales hurt them. How much money will the SB make in total revenues for the league. It’s all shared they are insulated from failure. Or else the Detroit Lions would’ve been out of business 20 years ago.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Priesttj
Anybody who thinks it’s alright for a Pro Football Team to play before an half empty stadium is in serious denial. But we already knew that about you.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:44 am
Bcz24, I have no idea what meteorite you just just rode in on, but you have broken the most sacred, time honored rule of the blog –
NEVER SUPPLY KRAPPYKELL WITH A LINK TO RAIDER STATS
I would admonish you with much greater force if I thought you knew any better. But you’re obviously from Saturn and have no idea how things work on this particular human football blog.
Others would be facing harsh punishment, banishing to a remote Earth outpost (like Philadelphia) or a silly shopping excursion with Brian the Genital.
Anyway, I’m sure you have no idea what kind of trouble you’ve caused and the cycle of devastating events that are set to unfold.
Next time you supply Krappy with any type of information, submit it to me first.
It could just save our planet.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:48 am
If Al Davis was flush with money, he’d pay his coaches
He’d have a new stadium
He wouldn’t be selling off pieces of his team.
Get real.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:50 am
RRS, Gannon is just running his mouth man, he doesn’t know Russell has never talked to him and is just going by what he thinks is going on.
Everyone knows Russell needs to improve he knows they know we know it. It’s well established so does most of the other players. You could say the same thing about most of them. But it wont happen overnight he plays the toughest psition in sports it takes time.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Whoa. Sorry dude…. I was unaware of the cataclysmic possibilities. Does it help that Exla provided him a link to essentially the same information slightly before I did?
February 5th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Bizjournals analyzed the performances of all 122 franchises in the NBA, NFL, Major League Baseball and the National Hockey League in the 2008 calendar year.
The top scores went to those teams that were strongest at the twin missions of professional sports — winning games and making money.
The rankings are from best to worst, and each team’s overall rank is in parentheses.
http://www.bizjournals.com/specials/pages/239.html
NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE
1. New York Giants (2)
2. New England Patriots (14)
3. Indianapolis Colts (16)
4. Tennessee Titans (17)
5. Baltimore Ravens (19)
6. New York Jets (22)
7. Carolina Panthers (25)
8. Philadelphia Eagles (36)
9. New Orleans Saints (38)
10. Pittsburgh Steelers (39)
11. San Diego Chargers (40)
12. Washington Redskins (42)
13. Green Bay Packers (46)
14. Minnesota Vikings (52)
15. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (54)
16. Chicago Bears (56)
17. Denver Broncos (58)
18. Houston Texans (59)
19. Dallas Cowboys (62)
20. Arizona Cardinals (65)
21. Buffalo Bills (66)
22. Atlanta Falcons (67)
23. Seattle Seahawks (70)
24. San Francisco 49ers (72)
25. Cleveland Browns (75)
26. Jacksonville Jaguars (77)
27. Miami Dolphins (78)
28. Kansas City Chiefs (87)
29. Cincinnati Bengals (88)
February 5th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Exla is currently being delt with using appropriate measures.
Any idea what the world record is for number of suppositories one man’s anal cavity can hold?
Well, we’re about to find out.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:56 am
I think he’s lost the confidence and the trust of the coaching staff and his teammates in the locker room
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Priest: you don’t agree with that?
February 5th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Many in here have stated that Rockstar….Only the blind cant see
February 5th, 2010 at 11:57 am
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/117194-nfls-least-valuable-franchise-is?cnn=yes
Forbes magazine, famous for its rich lists, just came out with its evaluations of the 32 NFL teams. No surprise, Jerry Jones’ Dallas Cowboys tops the list with a current value of $1.65 billion.
Only two NFL teams are unprofitable:
the Seattle Seahawks, who lost $2.4 million, AND THE BIGGEST LOSER OF THEM ALL, THE OAKLAND RAIDERS. Al Davis’ once wondrous franchise is now the least valuable NFL club at a “mere” $797 million, plus the Raiders had the BIGGEST OPERATING LOSS in the league at $5.7 million.
Los Angeles Times
February 5th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Bcz24
Look above
IT HAS
BEGUN
February 5th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Kell why arent the Lions Raiders and Rams on that list?
February 5th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
KK, who said it’s was alright? who said I think it should be that way. I said Mr Davis is a long way away from poverty. Or needing anyone to assist him like Tose sis many years ago. This league is global now. Those stores make a ton of money the licensing makes a ton of money. The NFL is not any other business with the anti-trust laws and profit sharing. It’s like having 30 people working in a mansion making lots of money. That have all agreed to support each other under any circumstances. What’s the chance of any of them ending up homeless? No chance as long as they are all gainfully employed. There are no hangers on in the NFL they all make tremendous profits and share them. Now if sometime they break that agreement and become separate entities. Then you MIGHT have a point. All of them get a cut of NFL licensing…….there is nothing else like it.
February 5th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
it’s 12pm in California. this is officially PM crew time
so…
Barack picked the Saints to win the Super Bowl
how many of you Barack worshipping sheep agree with him?
he said it, so it will happen, right guys?
YES WE CAN!!!
the Colts have been there before and won it all. the Saints have HOPE and winning the big game would certainly constitute CHANGE
February 5th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
# priesttj Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 11:36 am
Mr Davis is raking in millions from Raider image stores per day, ong before he gets his check for TV.
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You are so out of touch with the world, aren’t you?
First off..stores are DEAD..you obviously have not been in the few shops left in the bay area…whether Vella’s locker room, Raider image at southland, raider image off Davis? They can’t even pay the rent, much less a profit.
AND IT’S NOT THE RAIDERS MERCHANDISE. They don’t own it. The NFL does. The NFL owns every single thing that is marketed that is NFL related..down to the ash trays, the socks, and the bumper stickers.
ALL THE MONEY THE NFL MAKES OFF OF MERCHANDISE is equally divided up among all 32 teams..doesn’t matter what teams items sold, or not.
If you’re saying the stores profits above and beyond all that is millions a day?
You’re a loon.
February 5th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Bcz24 Sorry, repost:
Bizjournals analyzed the performances of all 122 franchises in the NBA, NFL, Major League Baseball and the National Hockey League in the 2008 calendar year. The top scores went to those teams that were strongest at the twin missions of professional sports — winning games and making money.
The rankings are from best to worst, and each team’s overall rank is in parentheses.
NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE
1. New York Giants (2)
2. New England Patriots (14)
3. Indianapolis Colts (16)
4. Tennessee Titans (17)
5. Baltimore Ravens (19)
6. New York Jets (22)
7. Carolina Panthers (25)
8. Philadelphia Eagles (36)
9. New Orleans Saints (38)
10. Pittsburgh Steelers (39)
11. San Diego Chargers (40)
12. Washington Redskins (42)
13. Green Bay Packers (46)
14. Minnesota Vikings (52)
15. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (54)
16. Chicago Bears (56)
17. Denver Broncos (58)
18. Houston Texans (59)
19. Dallas Cowboys (62)
20. Arizona Cardinals (65)
21. Buffalo Bills (66)
22. Atlanta Falcons (67)
23. Seattle Seahawks (70)
24. San Francisco 49ers (72)
25. Cleveland Browns (75)
26. Jacksonville Jaguars (77)
27. Miami Dolphins (78)
28. Kansas City Chiefs (87)
29. Cincinnati Bengals (88)
30. Oakland Raiders (100)
31. St. Louis Rams (116)
32. Detroit Lions (122)
Note:
Scores are based on bizjournals’ 100-point scale.
Records are wins and losses. A third number is listed for teams in the NFL (ties) and NHL (overtime losses).
Playoff results are provided for all teams that reached the quarterfinals or beyond. (Leagues use different playoff terminologies. Quarterfinals, for example, are called division series in baseball and conference semifinals in football. Standard terms — quarterfinals, semifinals and finals — are used for all four sports here.)
February 5th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
BAAAAAAAA Saints win!
February 5th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
if there’s a lockout and we have replacements you know Al is going to recruit every trackstar in the Bay Area.
anybody in here meet those qualifications?
run a 4.3 forty and look good coming off the bus?
football player or not. he wants the biggest, strongest & fastest…
February 5th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
RRS,, how would he know tell me?
February 5th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
BAAA RAAM YOU
February 5th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
LOL @ 4eva!
February 5th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Sure Al Davis has money coming in. Who’s to say he doesn’t have more money going out?
Ans: Forbes says his franchise is devaluing. Half Empty Stadium, Half empty Old Stadium, Him selling off pieces of the Raiders.
February 5th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Priest: Gannon isn’t hated by everybody that wears silver & black
he just isn’t allowed on site by Davis & Herrerra.
He’s got former teammates Seabass & Shane. Also former QB coach Paul Hackett.
plus we all sort of accept those comments as fact anyways due to what Cable and Russell’s teammates (including Nnamdi) have said to the media
I think Gannon is dead on accurate with his assessment of Russell. you can’t tell he’s overweight & inaccurate by watching him play?
February 5th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Saints all the way, right Kelly?
February 5th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
KK, the Raiders have historically been at the bottom of earnings and prfit in this league because they”ve never had a stadium worth crap. Has that ever stopped him from getting players they have the highest payrole of any team in the NFL.
He has never allowed that to stop him from getting a player. Whomever it was. If he sees a player that he wants this offseason irregards the salary he will sign him. Money will not stop him.
The man wants to win……………period
You may not agree with the way he does it, but he wants to win. That much only an idiot could argue with.
February 5th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
bcz24 Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Dakota, that is not the exact difference in the 2 cases. There is a large precedent for those who commit vehicular manslaugter while under the influence to do serious jail time, many times the consumption of alcohol prior to driving the motor vehicle is considered intent by prosecutors. Intent was not factored in at all when it came to Stallworth. The fact that he paid the victims family an undisclosed amount of money (estimated at $5million) made the difference in his sentencing.
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Sorry it took so long for me to respond…damned work getting in the way again…
The money certainly influenced the outcome in his case, as did the fact that he wasn’t that far over the legal limit, the victim ran out into the road, he wasn’t going an outrageous speed, he didn’t have a criminal history of DUIs, and he stopped to help and called the authorities. All of those things were mitigating factors in Stallworth’s case.
Where the money helped him some was that he didn’t have to spend 100 days in jail like most in his situation. If he had several DUIs in his past, had hit and run and was if his actions had been the major contributor to the cause of the accident, then yes, he would have gotten a much longer sentence…years instead of days, but each case is different.
I have no problem with the Stallworth case and sentence….and I have no problem with the Michael Vick sentence.
February 5th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Priest: do you think 81 year old Al Davis as Owner/GM can bring this team back to life with a head coach like Cable and a QB like Russell?
February 5th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Priesttj
I agree, it’s mainly the stadium. (A problem he hasn’t been able to solve since 1980)
Your assertion that Davis badly wants to win? Who knows, he hasn’t.
February 5th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
You can agree with him but I think he’s in it for the attention. If he wasn’t this stuff wouldn’t be in the media. Just shutup give him a call a do whatever you say you want to do. Why all the attention? So he’s overwieght and inaccurate so if you want to help ahutup and help…….period
February 5th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
The fact that Al Davis appears willing to pay a player whatever, only illustrates he doesn’t know what he’s doing. Because he consistently has one of the higher payrolls in the league, and consistently the poorest performance.
February 5th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
I’d rather see Stallworth in S&B over Vick any day.
February 5th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Priest: Gannon already offered to help
Response: you need the help Rich!
LOL. Russell needs all the help he can get imo.
He’s on his last chance. If Hue Jackson can’t milk some production out of JaWalrus he’ll be thrown out on the curb
February 5th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
RR
My fist barbershop report was when I ran into a fellow there who went to LSU with Russell, remember?
The guy said Russell had a lot of growing up to do. I didn’t want to hear it at the time.
February 5th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Gotta run
February 5th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
I know for a fact he wants to win… if you can’t figure that out then you’re worse off than I thought.
That’s all I can say…..your hatred has blinded you.
February 5th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Sure Al Davis wants to win, he spent boatloads of money in 2008 to win, he just is no longer capable of making the right decisions.
Kind of sad…….but super annoying too.
Get the fuk out of the way Al.
February 5th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
I ran into a fellow there who went to LSU with Russell, remember?
The guy said Russell had a lot of growing up to do. I didn’t want to hear it at the time.
***
he was right Kell – unfortunately
how many years in the league and how much of Al’s money will he pocket before he decides to “grow up” though?
as Raider fans I think we deserve better. Don’t you?
February 5th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
I know for a fact he wants to win…
***
I never said Russell wants to lose. every players WANTS to win Priest
but it’s clear he’s not putting the work in. Players can “want” for an entire career, but until they actually act on it and prove it, it means nothing.
I could quit my job and sit on the couch all day eating twinkies. I’d tell my wife “honey, I want to provide for us” but unless I got out there and applied for jobs, put a great resume together and busted my hump to get hired those words are empty and meaningless
get it?
February 5th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
I thought it was Al someone said didn’t want to win….
February 5th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
you could be right Dakota.
Priest didn’t specify. I just assumed to was replying to that post about Gannon (regarding Russell)
February 5th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
I don’t think ANY 81 year old man could essentially run every aspect of a football organization on his own.
I don’t care what he’s done in his past. be it win 3 Super Bowls or clean 3 toilet bowls …
Al should have hired a GM to rebuild this team after all the older vets retired or moved on and Callahan was fired. Many teams have a post Super Bowl loss freefall, especially if they lose their star QB to injury early in the season.
2004-2009 has been nothing short of a joke though. Al certainly doesn’t have what it takes anymore to piece together a World Champion from scratch.
February 5th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
The more black outs the better is you ask me,..I love it when the games not shown locally,..and so does al davis.
February 5th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Bobby,
the owner loves NOT making money?
please explain …
February 5th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
That ticket money is nothing compared to tv money, merch,..advertisement,..its nothing,…and davis is a billionare,..even though jealous old kell refuses to believe reality.
February 5th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Rockstar,imo this team is rebuilt.Ok we need a couple new players on both lines but with Gradkowski,even with an injured O-line we were moving chains and getting in the flow.Well maybe 1 or 2 guys on each line and we are there,ready to turn the corner,I can feel it….
February 5th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
I pray that every game next year is not shown locally,..nothing better then to hear the crybabies who didnt go to the game and cry about it wasnt on their tv`s,..lol
February 5th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Couldnt make it to Tahoe today to add to that 56.5 over bet,..chain controls up at Twin bridges,..dont need the hassle,..hard ot install chains while stoned and on Soma,..and I cant afford the 30 bucks for dudes on the shoulders to do it.
February 5th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
If JaCarcASS spent has much time improving his game,
as TJ does propping up his FAT ASS!
he might not be the laughing stock of NFL QB’s…
February 5th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Everyone keeps saying Russell clearly doesn’t want to put in the work. I want someone whio says that to tell me exactly what he’s doing right now. If you don’t know what he’s doing right now then you’re going on something that happened 8 months ago. Or that he supposedly missed a meeting at the end of the season.
So these are all opinions voiced by people who don’t know. I want to see what happens over the course of the offseason which is his 3rd offseason and see if he’s matured any. So we’ll see…
February 5th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 11:57 am
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/117194-nfls-least-valuable-franchise-is?cnn=yes
Forbes magazine, famous for its rich lists, just came out with its evaluations of the 32 NFL teams. No surprise, Jerry Jones’ Dallas Cowboys tops the list with a current value of $1.65 billion.
Only two NFL teams are unprofitable:
the Seattle Seahawks, who lost $2.4 million, AND THE BIGGEST LOSER OF THEM ALL, THE OAKLAND RAIDERS. Al Davis’ once wondrous franchise is now the least valuable NFL club at a “mere” $797 million, plus the Raiders had the BIGGEST OPERATING LOSS in the league at $5.7 million.
Los Angeles Times
^^^^^^^^^
Even more proof of a incompetently run franchise and organization…..which in turn has an effect of the team.
February 5th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
TJ,…please shut the F up about russell,…ok?…you know hes a loser but wont admit it because you already dug in too deep,..hes a loser,..period,..wont make it out of Napa,.get over it.
February 5th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
If had some imagination you might come up with an original thought. I say what the hell I want to say if you don’t like it don’t read it sucka.
You guy’s spend umpteen hours ripping this kid and get all sensitive when someone speaks otherwise. Your opinion is yours, mine is mine. Don’t read it idiot.
February 5th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Dakota Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Sure Al Davis wants to win, he spent boatloads of money in 2008 to win, he just is no longer capable of making the right decisions.
Kind of sad…….but super annoying too.
Get the fuk out of the way Al.
^^^^^^^^
Yep….with that undead clown of an owner in charge……the franchise and team will just continue to spin wheels like a hamster. LOL
February 5th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
knight what do you care the teams worth?..you a stock holder?..no,..just as blog crybaby.
February 5th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Norco Bob, how would you know, your head hasn’t been clear in years.
February 5th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
God, I pray Al lives another 20 years, and never hires a gm,…its too much fun to see the crybabies in here like old man kell and others,..Im telling you al davis is not going anywhere soon,..he and old kell look the same age, I think Al is 5 years older then old kell, even though old kell looks older,…please Al, stick around another 20 years!!!
February 5th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Whine and cry crowd.. is in da house!!.
February 5th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Youre right TJ,..it hasnt,..but I know a NFL bust when i see it,..I saw it prior to the draft too.
February 5th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
TJ,..Im in row 1 of the NEZ,..come see me,..and bring Taylor,..I will beat the dogshyt out the both of you.
February 5th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Yeah if you could steady your aim!!
February 5th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
February 5th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
And Jim the cop down there will let it go down, because he knows what a tool Taylor is too.
February 5th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Don’t worry, JR “can win the job back in his sleep” right TJ? He can turn it on “whenever he wants”, ‘talent always prevails”, right?
Those claims are more laughable now than they were when JR was benched…
February 5th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
Or maybe Jim “the cop” will step in and save you….
February 5th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Hey Norco
I didnt hear you talk smack in KNBR today? Whats going on, all talk no action???
February 5th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Don’t pump the ego.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Pat was a dick and wouldnt let me on.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Said Baltimore Dave took my time.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
If he wants to win it he’ll have as good a chance as anyone else. All how has to do is put forth the effort. Do whatever it takes. I think he can win it. If that’s what he wants.
So we’ll see….
February 5th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Gradkowski will beat out russell without breaking a sweat.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
priesttj Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Whine and cry crowd.. is in da house!!.
++++++++++++
That coming from the leader of the heads up their asses crowd.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Priest must be related to Barack, eh Dakota?
February 5th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
BD is a tool and he took your time?
February 5th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Dakota, sensitive aren’t ya’. Go ahead what do want to whine about the floor is yours? Whine and cry all you like, crybaby.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Priesttj
I don’t hate Al Davis personally, why should I?
I just hate the job he’s doing as General Manager and the results on Sundays
February 5th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Bobby, Gradkowski will break a sweat every time he steps in the building. So will Frye & Losman…
these guys put the work in. To start Russell with zero dedication to his craft over these worker bees would not only be a slap in the face to the other QB’s, but to his coaches, teammates and especially the fans!
February 5th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
I’d prefer that easily over being related to you and Dakota.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
RRS, just stop whinning!!! cry a little too.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Old Kell,..get high, smoke some reefer,..you wont trip on Al Davis so much,…ya dig?
February 5th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Yeah right KK, and the sky is purple.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Speaking of purple,..did you all here Hendrix had some new music come out recently?
February 5th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
what is it?
February 5th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
just stop whinning!!! cry a little too.
***
it’s called debate Priest. I give my side, you give yours
Instead I make a point and you wet yourself. who benefits from that?
Nobody.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Priesttj & Bob
If Al Davis weren’t the General Manager who engineered a 29-83, I wouldn’t be saying anything about him, ya dig?
February 5th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
priesttj Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Everyone keeps saying Russell clearly doesn’t want to put in the work. I want someone whio says that to tell me exactly what he’s doing right now. If you don’t know what he’s doing right now then you’re going on something that happened 8 months ago. Or that he supposedly missed a meeting at the end of the season.
So these are all opinions voiced by people who don’t know. I want to see what happens over the course of the offseason which is his 3rd offseason and see if he’s matured any. So we’ll see…
++++++++++++++
LMAO blah blah blah….hey, guess what, the burden has shifted. Russell no longer gets the benefit of the doubt. He lost that privilege the day he stepped into camp fat and unprepared. So why do you tell us what he is doing right now and show us some evidence that the kid is working on his body and his game? You provide everyone else with some evidence that Russell has changed…but you don’t know either do you, yet you tell everyone to back off the kid?
I don’t think so.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
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February 5th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Gradkowski is a backup at best.
Stop it!!
Dude couldn’t make it in TB and other teams, and you think he is your savior!
It’s good to have a guy like him, he is a hard worker, ,but players need a lot more than hard work to become good or even great players.
If hard work is all you need then all these guys should be starters:
1- Russell FB
2- Brown LB, Alston LB
3- OL Morris, Cooper, and pears
4- HB Fargas
5- WR Watkins
February 5th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Hey Priest
What do you think of Poole’s assessment?
—————
That one of the team’s all-time greats, Hall of Famer Willie Brown, announced his retirement not during a news conference but while sitting in his SUV suggests a level of negligence that is downright shameful.
Such self-crippling methods may not hurt good teams that play before sellout home crowds, but they’re suicide for a losing team with retreating fans. Like the Raiders.
The Raiders can continue to operate this way only if they’ve gotten comfortable with their descent into irrelevancy, have lost interest in bonding with the community and are completely dismissive of the unsold tickets that led to seven TV blackouts.
-Monte Poole
February 5th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
imo this team is rebuilt.Ok we need a couple new players on both lines but with Gradkowski,even with an injured O-line we were moving chains and getting in the flow.Well maybe 1 or 2 guys on each line and we are there,ready to turn the corner,I can feel it….
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4eva: I agree with that for the most part, but this team still has a ways to go imo. adding a rookie DT & MLB or rookie OT & OG may not yield immediate results. Very few rookies on ANY team come in and make an instant impact. The Raiders don’t have a great track record of developing young talent once it gets here. In fact they don’t have a great eye for talent period! so we could draft for NEED this time around and still get the wrong guys. Like DHB & Mitchell instead of Crabtree & Byrd. or drafting skill positions when the trenches are weak. it’s very possible, if not likely.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Raider O Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Gradkowski is a backup at best.
++++++++++
I agree…if our Russell backup plan is Garbagekowski we are in trouble.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
I think Gradkowski/Frye/Losman at QB is serviceable.
not great, but good enough to get the job done at the QB position.
until the OL is fixed and the WR’s & QB’s get on the same page we aren’t going to compete with the better teams in this league. Oh Yeah – the run defense is awful too!
February 5th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
RR,
That’s why we need to cut Warren & WR Walker, and sign the best G & C available in FA.
Also, sign the best FB, and sign descent vet WR & QB.
Sign a UDFA HB and we are ready to COMPETE.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
That’s true Rockstar…
February 5th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Bruce played well at times as a rookie, better than Jamarcus’ rookie year, for a struggling Bucs team. Set an NFL rookie for “throwing more passes in NFL history before suffering a second career interception”. Kind of cheesy, but hey an NFL record.
He than ventured to St Louis and Cleveland, two teams worse than us, and played in the last game of the season for a Browns teams that set offense back 15 fifteen years.
He than comes to Oakland, plays better than Jeff Garcia and Jamarcus Russell from the first preseason game on, and gives the Oakland Raiders, even if for only 3 games and half games, the best QB play they had in a couple of years. He is the hardest working guy, invites teammates to his mother’s house, wants to be here, and pulled off a few 4th quarter rallies that showed some serious moxie.
What am I missing about this guy? Why do so many of you hate on him? Is it his name? If he was Bruce Bradley could we rally around him a little more?
February 5th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Russell Backup Plan???
how can JR be the QB plan at this time?
I know the money says so, but he did NOTHING to make it look like he was worthy of starting at the end of the season. Saying the B-More game was better is a reach at best, and still not good enough to win games…
February 5th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
I agree Vegas,
Grads did nothing but make this team better, and he gets very little support here…
February 5th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
I like to see what happens with guys like T Jackson, Jason Campbell, #5 and Kevin Kolb.
Who knows who will be available FAs, or available by trade?
February 5th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
As long as you rally around him that should be good enough.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
and when was the last time anyone saw a QB deliver a pass with the ‘ol submarine pitch….he may not be pretty or prototypical….He just gets it done.We got horses,our QB must be accurate and athletic.Bruce is both
February 5th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
You can’t depend on an avg QB who can’t stay healthy.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
First it was if we don’t like Russell its because he is black, and now if we don’t like Grandkowski it is because he is a Polack?
lol come on Vegas.
If you want to put the franchise in the hands of a QB that has had six good quarters in his career you are welcome to do so…but some of us would like a little more before we jump on the Garbagekowski bandwagon.
Larry Brown had a good game once too….
February 5th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
4eva
you 4got fragile… just sayin.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
The guy gets hurt for the first time in his career, and he is injury-prone.
QB’s get banged up, part of the game. If he gets hurt next year, than maybe you ask the injury-prone question.
We can build around Bruce, and it would be a hell of a lot easier than building around Jamarcus. We all hear the stories year in and year out, they have the talent but blah blah blah.
We need leaders, on defense and offense. We have some good young guys, but they need a leader, a presence to wrangle in as many as possible.
As void of leadership as the Raiders are, and as bad as Jamarcus is at it, Bruce probably almost seems biblical to some of these guys at times.
Than he walked across water in Pittsburgh.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
we need to cut Warren & WR Walker, and sign the best G & C available in FA.
***
I’m good with that plan. I’m not sure about adding anymore QB’s or WR’s though. We need to develop the ones we got IMO.
and FB’s are like KR’s. dime a dozen. you can get good ones as undrafted free agents or even off the waivers. problem in Oakland is we tried to get guys already on the roster to step up and fill the return duty void. We should have signed a KR/PR specialist! and for some reason we have guys at FB who excel on special teams (Lawton) play RB (Russell) and catch passes out of the backfield (Reece). Why not grab a hammerhead like O’Neal was? We need a BLOCKING FB! somebody to pave the way for the RB’s …
February 5th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Vegas,
C’mon man!! lol
Nothing wrong with his name, but he is not the answer.JR is our QB, and if he is a bust, then we need to find another QB. BG played well in a few games, and So did JR last season.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Yeah sure,
“Grads can’t carry JR’s Jock” right TJ?
But he could carry the whole team on Sundays…
February 5th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
I don’t think I can handle a breakup with Bruce. I don’t want to go back to my old fat, unsophisticated girlfriend (QB)
February 5th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
What gave anyone the idea that Garbagekowski is accurate? He has a career completion percentage of about 53%. Great if he was shooting a b-ball in the NBA but not good enough for an NFL QB. Hell, that might be lower than Michael Vicks career completion percentage lol.
One game or six quarters changes a four year career?
Sorry, not buying it.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
Vegas
yeah a steeler team that was playing bad football @ the time. Besides Jamarcus will start you know that..
February 5th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
aqnd the TEAM responds to him BIG BIG THING
February 5th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
#2 lost this team
February 5th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
I don’t think I can handle a breakup with Bruce. I don’t want to go back to my old fat, unsophisticated girlfriend (QB)
***
LOL!
I don’t think I can handle staying with the same ol girls Gerard & Tommy. I can’t stand the way they just lay down when somebody comes knockin’ (FB’s , RB’s)
and keep your pants on Tommy!
February 5th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Gradkowski’s 7 game string with the Raiders was the best of his career. He was a career 65. passer rating.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
I believe in you JaBustus!!
February 5th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
4evaRaider Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
aqnd the TEAM responds to him BIG BIG THING
++++++++++++++++++
Him have big big thing? Good for Bruce, but irrelevant as to whether or not he should be our QB.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Nation what is up??????
408, what up Bro? I remeber you and some other guys talking about art, are you an artist?
February 5th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
I agree RR. I want to try another 3some. Maybe keep TK, and it will be Seymour, Rookie, and TK.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
We scored 20 or more points 4 times all of last year.
First game of the year (20)
Bengals game (20) with 2 80 yard TD drives
Steelers game (24) best 4th quarter by QB in Raiders history
Broncos game
In the Redskins game we had 10 points at halftime. Sadly, that tied our season high for points in the first half, broken the next week by our 13 in Denver.
He had ONE BAD GAME, not 6 good quarters. And by what standards are we judging Bruce by, certainly not Oakland Raiders offense standards? We flat out suck, are laughable at times over the last 3 years, and with Bruce we looked very respectable and borderline good for a few moments.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
maybe Tollner & Hackett are good for guys like Gradkowski & Frye?
they are some of the best QB coaches in the game.
chalk the success Bruce had last year up to maturity or a system fit if you want. nobody is saying he’s “made it” quite yet. just that he gives us the best chance to win games at this point and time
February 5th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
4evaRaider Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
aqnd the TEAM responds to him BIG BIG THING
++++++++++
The team would have responded to any QB not named Russell that put in some hard work and showed some dedication to their profession last year…95% of NFL QBs qualify in that regard…so why not pick one up that also has talent instead of sticking with Garbagekowski?
February 5th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
It’s 5pm in Podunk!
Have a great evening RR.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
LTR RR…..
February 5th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
bawhahahaha..
February 5th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
I think we should start our front 4 of Ellis, TK, Seymour, Matt S.
Defensive lines need to rotate a lot, so it will always be on the move, but that should be our front 4 core, unless we get another DT.
Kelly and Warren can’t hold hands in the middle anymore. They need to be put in seperate corners of the classroom.
February 5th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
later gents. have a great weekend
February 5th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Bruce came in and looked like an NFL QB,
JR looks like he’s playing a sand lot game, that includes the candy in his waist line on the sidelines…
“Hey JR, you’re in…”
“OK coach, hey, hold onto my skittles ok?…what a disgrace…
February 5th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Please don’t take arguing against Bruce as support for Russell.
We need a decent QB period. They both blow.
February 5th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
You will call him Bruce or Grads, Garbagekowski is not allowed.
February 5th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
Dakota….thats fine with me but we have no QB on roster better than Grads.If Big AL goes and gets whoever I say bring em on! Bruce aint letting go and yes the team responds to what ever it is they respond too =)
February 5th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Norco Bob Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
knight what do you care the teams worth?..you a stock holder?..no,..just as blog crybaby.
^^^^^^^^^
Heck no….I aint a stock holder….are you out of your mind fool?? I only invest in stocks when I see an upside! No upside seen her yet thats for damn sure.
It just goes to prove the ineptitude that you can’t see because maybe your pill popper?
Is that all you can call people who call out Al Davis and his crappy mis management and ruining of this once proud franchise. Cry babies?? LOL
Only drug addicted LOSERS accept the LOSING status quo of this dis organization and team and refuse to protest, boycott or challenge the status quo and champion change.
February 5th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Tea party National Convention today.
I’m thinking Nashville probably wasn’t the best place to go to “change the image” of the tea party movement.
February 5th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
# Thec07 Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Nation what is up??????
408, what up Bro? I remeber you and some other guys talking about art, are you an artist?
——————–
if rolling herbs counts yes I am…
February 5th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/landing/?&blockID=176016&feedID=2801
February 5th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
That was a great interview with Gannon….thanx 408!
February 5th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
vegas raider Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
You will call him Bruce or Grads, Garbagekowski is not allowed.
+++++
Lol…sorry, it just flows…if I have disrespected your man and you feel you must call me out for a duel I will understand.
February 5th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
4evaRaider Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
Dakota….thats fine with me but we have no QB on roster better than Grads.If Big AL goes and gets whoever I say bring em on! Bruce aint letting go and yes the team responds to what ever it is they respond too =)
___________________
Yes he probably is the best QB on our roster…
…but even the freshest, best looking turd in the toilet is still nothing more than a turd.
February 5th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
If you say so Dakota lol
February 5th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
LOL…I was fired up when I was typing it.
C’mon man, Bruce gives us our best chance to be competitive next year, we all know it. To quote Rick Pitino, “Larry Bird ain’t walking through that door”. If he gets hurt we can go to maybe a JP Losman or back to the big fella.
He has to be on the roster. Even if he is the backup, you saw him last year, he is helping guys out on the sidelines and is just what the offense needs. If you can find a more talented Bruce Gradkowski than by all means. Until than, Grads it is!!!
February 5th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
nyet
February 5th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Have a nice weekend.
February 5th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
I could see it now….Dakota and Vegas having a duel….a beer drinking duel!
February 5th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
he he
February 5th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Grads should be ahead of Juggs or Losman to be the starter going into nex year…..EASILY.
Juggs has a ways to go before he shows he is even remotely close to being ready to be a starter. IF he ever is…..
February 5th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
The Polish Popgun was not on anyone’s radar a year ago. Yes, Bruce might have the moxie of a Brian Cardinal (remember him Warrior fans?) but it doesn’t mean you want him in the starting line-up. A novelty.
Pasted against the dismal actions of JRuss Gradkowski looked like a genuine diamond.
Weighed against a real NFL quarterback Gradkowski is zirconium.
February 5th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
M Lonetree Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
The Polish Popgun was not on anyone’s radar a year ago. Yes, Bruce might have the moxie of a Brian Cardinal (remember him Warrior fans?) but it doesn’t mean you want him in the starting line-up. A novelty.
Pasted against the dismal actions of JRuss Gradkowski looked like a genuine diamond.
Weighed against a real NFL quarterback Gradkowski is zirconium.
^^^^^^^^^
Oh well….he is better than Juggs Russell at this point and at least the offense showed some signs of life when he was in there.
Thank Al Davis for creating this freakin mess!
February 5th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Maybe M….In a little more than 3 games he threw for 1,007 yards and 6 TD’s.If he can stay healthy he could pass for over 4,000 and 25 plus TD’s.I think he can be a very good QB in the nfl.
February 5th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Look up the word “Journeyman” in the dictionary and you will see Bruce Gradkowskis picture. He is not an NFL starter. Period. Endo story. The Raiders do not have a starting NFL QB on the roster.
February 5th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
4eva,
c’mon, I like Gradkowski the Bruce. the kid’s got heart. But Jamarcus had more game-winning passes or drives than Bruce had.
shrug.
at least Losman has had some degree of success as an NFL QB. I’d hope he is in da house, for good or ill, come summer.
February 5th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
haha….and he also rushed for 108 yards on 18 carries for a 6 hahaha a 6 yard average!!!! Bruce was our BEST RB TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
February 5th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
DKnight007,
yeah, you can blame Al for the QB mess.
the Raiders needed a QB. He drafted one. Only thing is Al is not at fault for the Rookie salary structure to be completely f%cked up.
unfortunately, sometimes you get hosed in the crapshoot.
February 5th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Trade DMAC for a journeyman QB!
February 5th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
4eva,
shhhhh. Dakota might hear that you just dissed his DMc once again.
February 5th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
trade dmac for a journeyman quarterback’s contract and then cut him.
February 5th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
M Lonetree…
lol….
February 5th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
M Lonetree….true #2 has almost everything he needs to be a top-notch QB in the nfl.We all see his seemingly unlimited potential,but what does he do wid it?….On the other hand this should not even be a close compitition.Its almost like David vs. Goliath,no way Gradkowski could win,right?
The high-way of the NFL is littered with strong arm QB’s.Thats because it takes waay more than a strong arm as you my friend already know.
Maybe Gradkowski isnt the one to take us all the way,I believe he will take us a long way.Ya never know
February 5th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
M Lonetree
I could see if Al gets hosed periodically in “crapshoots”
But 3 straight crapshoots”?
29-83?
February 5th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
And thats great….after all Larry Bird aint walkin through that door LOL
February 5th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
I could care less about the teams playing Sunday but I like Coach Caldwell so I will use that as an excuse to root for the Colts.
But first, I am headed to Vegas to make some prop bets. I was thinking about betting on the Colts and the over but I rarely hit two team parleys
February 5th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
lol well that was really aimed at Bush M!
February 5th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
Futhermore M!!!….With Gradkowski keeping defenses’ honest,Dmac is gonna have a BREAK-OUT YEARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 5th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
well good luck 2 ya Plunk
February 5th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
Thanks 4eva!!
Are you having a pig roast?
February 5th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
OOHHH man this is GREAT….Gradkowski was our best RB last year hahahahahahahahaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha
February 5th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
I dont think so Plunk….My neighbor might smoke something….I’ve had enough hog for a year so maybe he smoke some venison
February 5th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
My pleasure.
___________
# gilbert Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 11:33 pm
Mistabrown,glad youre posting some truth here,starting to connect the dots in this blog.Thanks for the fresh air,Raiders!!!!!
February 5th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Fix the O line. Get TROY SMITH.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
LMAO!
Damn the cross posting in this blog has gotten way out of hand. People patting themselves on the back is so damn pathetic and yet so damn funny!
February 5th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Barback 0bama makes another gaffe. So when can we stop calling this empty suit the smartest Pres we’ve ever had?
“While speaking at the National Prayer Breakfast, President Obama mispronounced the word “Corpsman” as “corpse-man.”
February 5th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Dogg, I know you have a boner for me after I didnt extend my hand to you but for phuck sakes get over it! You are a grown man, right ?
February 5th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
I’m back, sorry I’ve been gone so many days!
Was in the Hospital getting my Gull Bladder removed. Man…it’s a painful recovery!
What did I miss?
February 5th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Not a dam thing.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
Prop bets????
I got 16 pages of them over here Plunk.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
what does the gull bladder do ? and u missed a spirited debate about OBAMA, zbs and soft porn vs victoria secrets catalog
February 5th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
0bama is doing such a great job of embarrassing himself & tearing down the Dem party its almost pointless to discuss him. I predict another 20 years before A Dem gets elected to the WH.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Dogg, I know you have a boner for me after I didnt extend my hand to you but for phuck sakes get over it! You are a grown man, right ?”
Damn, contrary to your belief, not everything in the world is about you.
I do find it funny and telling that you THOUGHT that I WAS talking about you cross posting under multiple names. That says all I need to know about you.
Now back to your world, I have nothing further to discuss with you and never did. So please keep my name out of your mouth. Talking about being a grown man? Grow up son, you have much to learn…
February 5th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
My black friends tell me every time Obama screws up, they say its his white half thats the F-up…and I pretty much agree with them on that.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Bob
what’s your plan for Sunday?
February 5th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
RaiderDoggette, quit acting like a scorned little girl.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
Norco, you have black friends that admit 0bama is fkn up?
I dont believe it but props to your friends if they did acknowledge it. Maybe there is Hope!
February 5th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Mista, cant ya read?…they blame Obamas white half.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
Dogg,..lets see,..goin to a huge SB party and a friends house in Pollock Pines,…3 kegs,..open bar,..lots of grass,..pills…the dude is going to bbq a half a steer,…should be great.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
RaiderDoggette, quit acting like a scorned little girl.”
I kindly asked you to keep my name out of your mouth and now you are coming at me with your homosexual nicknames again and talking about me having a “boner”.
Let it go sicko, I don’t wish to speak with a person with your tendencies. You clearly are misinformed on so many levels and I find it hard to relate to a man that likens other men with feminine nicknames and who keeps talking about my “boner”.
My advice is to take that kind of sh1t elsewhere, there are plenty of blogs that would be more appropriate for your little fantasies. I am sure your therapist would tell you the same thing: Innappropriate behavior for a sports blog you sick fuk!
February 5th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
Bob
I had a feeling you would be doing it the right way. Be safe bro, call a cab. The CHP and local po po will be out in force…
February 5th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
Norco I can read! I dont care what half they are blaming as long as they acknowledge.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
RaideMutt, you asked me to hush up?
lmao
February 5th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
RaideMutt, you asked me to hush up?
lmao”
Damn bro are you slow? I asked you to keep my name out of your mouth. Enough with your faggy tendencies, keep me out of it!
February 5th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Mutt, have you ever asked someone on a blog to be quiet and they did ? Usually it works the opposite, right ?
lol
February 5th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Mutt, have you ever asked someone on a blog to be quiet and they did ? Usually it works the opposite, right ?
lol”
Learn to read genius. Are people really this stupid?
February 5th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Dogg, you’re one of those guys that throws the first stone and then you squeal like a lil bich.
Wipe the sand out of your clit..
February 5th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Dogg, you’re one of those guys that throws the first stone and then you squeal like a lil bich.
Wipe the sand out of your clit..”
Whatever you need to tell yourself bro. Seriously, get over it and keep me out of your gay talk OK? It’s fukkin sickening.
February 5th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Dogg, if I apologize for not shaking hands with you will you let it go or would you rather continue having your period?
Your call..
February 5th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
Dogg, I dont know what “gay” talk your speaking of I havent seen any “gay” talk on this blog tonight.
Go change your tampon & move on, thanks in advance.
February 5th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
Just keep my name out of your mouth with this gay bullsh1t. Seriously man, it’s disgusting. Go back to your days of obsessing over Oakglenn and BHP. You remember, back when you were Mistabrown and not Mistabr0wn.
February 5th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
lol”
February 5th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Dogg, there have been no gay references except you using the gay community as a crutch for getting your ballz kicked in on a blog. And you calle dme out first, go figure!
February 5th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Now I understand why Jerry banned you.
February 5th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Dogg, you can call your (BFF) OakGlen by his current name “Seymour Bush”
February 5th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
I called you out? When was that? You are fukking delusional son. When did I call you out? I haven’t spoken to you in weeks.
February 5th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Gall Bladder breaks down fat, sometimes useless for alot of people and usually removed from gall stones!
They make 3 to 4 cuts, one by the belly button, another below your breast, one on your right side of the belly and another right below that. They put you under anesthesia and remove it, taking anywhere between 1-2 hours.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-qGqZnAR2E
February 5th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh” wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh”
February 5th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Please show me where I called you out. I am waiting…
February 5th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh” wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh”
Spoken like a defeated man. Very intelligent.
February 5th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Yes Doggie you defeated me. When you threw the gay card at me I just couldn’t bare it any longer….your the KING here Doggiee!
LMAO”
February 5th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Defeated in the sense that you have zero explanation to back up your claim that I “called you out”. Once again, without a shadow of a doubt, it has been proven that you are comnpletely full of sh1t and are clearly inferior intellectually to most on this blog. No wonder you cry.
February 5th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Please continue to prove my point, it is funny to watch you melt down…
February 5th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Yes Doggiee Im inferior and I cry. Without a shadow of a doubt!!!
LMAO”
February 5th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Yes now I’m melting down!
Sheeesh Dogg how do you do it ??? You are like a superhero! Batman? Spider Man? Aqua man! Which one are you Doggiee???
February 5th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Cat Woman! RaiderCatt!
February 5th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
A person with a half a brain would seem like a super hero to you. No wonder you are always scrambling around so full of hate. The world doesn’t owe you sh1t just because you are mentally inferior. You just have to work THAT much harder. Get over it and move on.
February 5th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
Seriously, stop with the feminine nicknames.
February 5th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
Well I am off to have a few cocktails with an associate. Keep on grasping at straws Mistabrown. Maybe one day it won’t be the shortest one. Not likely, but you never know…
February 5th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
RaiderCatt, declaring yourself a winner on a blog on a scale of 1-10 is a solid 10 on the loser/derelict scale.
Seriously, your in your 30’s or 40’s? Calling yourself a “winner” on a friggin blog….LMAO
February 5th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
First is was gay slurs now your using “feminine” nickname defense?
RaiderCatt, I suggest you go get some male hormone pills and dbl the recommended dose.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
Ran into Tom Cable at a restaurant in Alameda this evening. He was with a nice looking young lady. I said “Hey Tom, are you still with us”. His response was “yep, sure am”. I replied “Congratulations. How are we gonna do next year”. He said “we’ll be just fine”. I said ” I certainly hope so, just get those wins”. He gave me a thumbs up and I said “Keep the faith”.
Upon leaving I suggested he whisper into AD’s ear “Troy Smith, RFA, Ravens”. He replied “we got our guy, Jamarcus will is the guy.” I said ” are you really gonna be able to fix all his bad habits?” He said “we got his past coach in here and he’ll come around”. He also said “Troy Smith won’t work out there’s other inside information I’ve got on him”. I said “I hope you can get the wins. There’s a lot of people out here that support you and your efforts. Just get us the wins. We need it and you need it”. He agreed.
Overall my impressions of Tom Cable in person is that he looks a lot younger that he does on TV, he really comes across as a good guy. I wish him and the Raiders well. ‘m just afraid that I got the company line regarding JaBustus and if true, we are headed, short of a major miracle, to another crappy season with Jabustus leading us into the cellar. Damn, I hope not.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
First is was gay slurs now your using “feminine” nickname defense?
RaiderCatt, I suggest you go get some male hormone pills and dbl the recommended dose.”
Let me get this straight…YOU were the one talking about my boner and YOU are the one that continually has little pet names for ME yet I need pills?! Come on man.
You claimed that I called you out yet were unable to back up your claim. I called you a defeated man, not to declare victory on my behalf, but to point out how much of a defeated man you are in general.
You have a really hard time comprehending the truth don’t you?
Now I will continue to sip this Grand Marnier Top Shelf cocktail, while I expose you, not only on this blog, but to everyone within earshot of me and my associates here.
Keep proving my point you sad, pathetic man, we think it’s HILARIOUS! It’s like you are a socialogical experiment, so textbook. We are all taking bets on how you will respond…
February 5th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
I wish KoolKell was here, he always KILLS Mistabrown.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Dogg,
Whas up bro?
Are you going to sell your boat?
February 5th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
JB,
-You should have asked about the Oline and the cause of it’s poor play.
- ask him why Bush is getting so many carries?
- ask him why WR Walker didn’t start?
- ask him why Barnes didn’t play RT?
- ask him why he started Frye over JR when we had nothing to play for?
Next time you see him, tell him RaiderO & others want him fired. Tell him to show us what he can do instead of all this crap he talks about how close we are.
Fire Cable!
February 5th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
O
It’s a nice thought, but I would lose money. Maybe in a few years. I just never get a chance to spend any time on it ya know. Thinking of letting my wife’s nephew live on it for a while until he finds his own place. He is moving out here from Michigan. My friends are advising me against it. It would be sweet living for a young man, bachelor pad on the water.
I freaked out this morning when I heard that The Rubicon, a boat a few berths down from mine, completely burned last night. I guess it was a big fire. Part of me instantly thought of the insurance payout if it was mine.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
O
Any plans for Sunday?
February 5th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
I am sitting here with 2 very successsful women that are fascinated with my Blackberry. It’s not like they couldn’t afford one! They want me to keep fukking with Mistabrown cuz they find it pretty funny.
Although they are mostly my wife’s associates, I think she is getting annoyed. I better put this thing away
February 5th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
Dogg,
I would give you the same advise as tour friends, but I don’t know the young man. Be could be a great guy and take care it for you, but u don’t think that will be the case. lol
Can you rent it?
Insuranse you say. Umm. Maybe you should let the young man use it.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Your*
He*
No plans. I have to study for next week, and try to watch the SB.
It should be a great game. IMHO
February 5th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
O
My time to speak with him was very limited. I would have loved to be able to sit down with him for 15-20 minutes asking hard questions but unfortunately, this was not the opportunity. Believe me when I say I’ve got as many hard questions to ask as you do but guys like us don’t get the opportunity. We also understand the environment he works under – KING AL. I also told him that DMac needs to be the slot receier but I’m sure he didn’t hear me as he went out he door. Even 5 minutes would have been great but it didn’t happen. I really wanted to reinforce that we need a MLB & big uglies this time around at the draft but I’m sure he already knows that. But, as we all know, it’s all about what Al Davis wants.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
O
So what are you smoking on tonight? Personally I have some outdoor Diesel calling my name. Ready to step outside of this crowded, loud ass place and have a smoke…
February 5th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Dogg,
It’s a cocktail!
A little Purp, some Blue Dream, and Cush!
February 5th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
O
You must be a connoisseur! Good for you bro. Not familiar with Blue Dream. I assume it is an indica strain?
February 5th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
Dogg,
lol
I don’t know, but I do know this:
The name says it all. When you come to SD, I will take care of you.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
JB,
You can’t bother the man when he’s having dinner with a lady. You did very well for someone who wasn’t prepared, was being considerit, and didn’t have a lot of time
February 5th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Dogg,
I miss talking to Dell. Do you hear from him?
February 6th, 2010 at 12:31 am
mistabrOwn, what part of “you are a complete moron loser turd” do you NOT understand?
February 6th, 2010 at 12:34 am
Mistabr0wn Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
Norco I can read!
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Actually, in fact, he can’t. He has a four year old, read for him.
February 6th, 2010 at 1:05 am
Mistabr0wn Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Oh, one more thing Djohnny.
Armond only posts here when OakGlen & Tj are here so I dont know which one of them is actually Armond but you can figure this all out on your own.
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So now I am Armond. I have now been called Captain Black, aig, oakglen and now Armond. Oakglen has this idiot bonehead so rattled, I bet he checks underneath his kids beds every night because he thinks the oakglen “boggieman” is under his kids beds.
February 6th, 2010 at 3:32 am
Morning Nation!
LOL
February 6th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Good morning my dear friends,..sorry if this upsets you all,..but I pray Tim Brown doesnt make it today,..Im just keepin it real.
February 6th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Tim Brown was a damn good player,..not great however,…not in Jerry Rice`s league, not even close…Rice was great, made gigantic plays, in huge moments of great games,..Brown was a good receiver, nothing special.
February 6th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Chris Carter was by far better then Tim Brown….he needs to be in before Brown.
February 6th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Ricky Bobby,
Did you pray to God?
February 6th, 2010 at 9:10 am
I dont believe in God.,..not your God anyway. Im a Satanist. And I dont pray to him for sports related crap.
February 6th, 2010 at 9:20 am
Al Davis will claim Jerry Rice as another Raider Hall of Famer, in the Raider Media Guide today.
February 6th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Why shouldnt he?..all teams do that with a player that played for them…not just Oakland,..sorry if that messes up your theory old man.
February 6th, 2010 at 9:23 am
KC does that with Marcus Allen.
February 6th, 2010 at 9:25 am
But I hope Brown gets shut out today,..hes not deserving,..not if Chris Carter isnt in….and Cliff Branch was twice the receiver Brown was.
February 6th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Uh oh, the old fool is firing up his googlie machine again,…lol…old kell, when you going to stop being such a jealous old fool?…you need to get over it,..old Al is an owner, youre just an old bitter fan, scoreboard for Al,…bitter old loser is what you are….get over it.
February 6th, 2010 at 9:35 am
Stupid old fool old kell, tried to blast the raiders for being able to mention Jerry Rice as a player of theirs in the HOF,..he got shot down, as he always does,..now going crazy, yelling in his filthy house, once again he got straitened out,..sorry old man, but as you know, every time you open your big ugly mouth in here, someone shoots you down,..like I did,…it must suck to be an old jealous fool like you.
February 6th, 2010 at 9:35 am
googlie machine LOL
February 6th, 2010 at 9:35 am
Norco Bob Says:
February 6th, 2010 at 9:23 am
KC does that with Marcus Allen.
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You’re a damned liar
http://www.kcchiefs.com/hall_of_fame/
February 6th, 2010 at 9:37 am
Iv got the program, from a kc game about 10 years ago,..sorry old fool, you lose again.
February 6th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Once again, old fool kell and his googlie machine get straitened out…sorry old timer.
February 6th, 2010 at 9:38 am
And by the way, KC had every right to add him on their game day program as players in the HOF,..because he was a Chief!
February 6th, 2010 at 9:40 am
hey old kell, when you disappear for ten minutes, trying to search the internet for facts to support your theory,..dont you wish, just once, you could do it with the knowledge in your own head?….sucks to be so limited like you old man. hahahahahaha
February 6th, 2010 at 9:40 am
Worst NFL Organizations:
30. Oakland: For nearly 40 years after becoming coach in 1963, Al Davis was an innovative thinker. Now he’s an embittered owner, repeating out-of-date slogans, wasting money on players nobody else wants and letting his staff intimidate critics. If he let his CEO, Amy Trask, hire a football guy, it could be consistently better. The Richard Seymour deal was Snyderesque, mortgaging a first-round pick for a declining star. .
http://www.scoresreport.com/2009/10/01/fanhouse-ranks-the-best-worst-nfl-organizations/
February 6th, 2010 at 9:41 am
Oh ya, one mo thangs,..Allen signed my program!!!!…at arrowhead!..and I was in my Stabler jersey!!!!…so there old loser kell!!!!
February 6th, 2010 at 9:43 am
30th worst in nfl????????????????????…lol…how many teams have more lombardi trophies?…lol….poor old jealous kell,…drowning in misery,…old kell,..your ugly,..fat,…unhappy…your jealousy is killing you old fool….and I love it!
February 6th, 2010 at 9:45 am
by the way old kell,..according to my googlie machine, you and old Al are about the same age,..but hes woth a billion,..it says here, you are barely makin ends meet,..is that why youre so jealous?…get over it loser. hahahahaha
February 6th, 2010 at 9:46 am
And old kell,..I have a pic of both you and Old Al up on screen,..hes actually better looking then you,..lol…sorry old fool.
February 6th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Sports Illustrated has Al Davis as the #1 worst owner in the NFL
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It’s hard to knock three Super Bowl titles, one AFL championship and 21 postseason appearances since Davis bought into the former AFL franchise. Problem is, the game has passed the Hall of Famer by and he seems to be the only one who doesn’t know it. Since the Raiders were blown out in Super Bowl XXVII, they’ve gone a league-worst 24-72 and have blazed through five head coaches since ‘01, including the fiasco over is-he-or-isn’t-he-fired Lane Kiffin this past season. All this ignores the real problem: that Davis is out of touch, refuses to adapt and continues to be infatuated with speedsters (this year the team inexplicably drafted Darrius Heyward-Bey with the No. 7-overall pick) instead of building a deep roster that can compete.
Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/05/08/nfl.owners/index.html#ixzz0emMgGj1q
Get a free NFL Team Jacket and Tee with SI Subscription
February 6th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Sorry old feel,..3 rings is 3 rings,..but an old man like you, overcome in jealousy,..cant deal with it,…lol,..sorry old fool….hes worth a billion, hes in the HOF,…he owns a team,..are those just some of the reasons you are jealous?…and the fact you n=both about the same age?…and hes much better looking then you?…sucks to be old kell!!!
February 6th, 2010 at 9:50 am
A Poll of NFL players reveals that they think the Raiders are the 4th worst Organization in the NFL:
FAST FACTS: Green Bay is 0-3 at Lambeau Field for the first time in 16 years…. Oakland (all-time winning percentage of .589) is the only team among the eight “worst” vote-getters with more franchise wins than losses.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/players/10/19/poll.best.worst.orgs/
February 6th, 2010 at 9:51 am
I wonder what Old Al finds when he fires up his googlie machine for old kell,..um,..nothing but an ugly pic!!!! eeww!! hahahahahah
February 6th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Hey old loser, can ya please post that article from mike silverstein again?…lol
February 6th, 2010 at 9:54 am
The National Football Post has the Raiders ranked 30th as a Football Organization.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/ranking-the-nfl-organizations-4.html
February 6th, 2010 at 9:54 am
Actually Mike Silverstein is mad at me,..he doesnt like my pizza oven jokes I post on the internet,..Silverstein has no sense of humor.
February 6th, 2010 at 9:55 am
The national football post has old kell as the ugliest raider fan ever…lol
February 6th, 2010 at 9:56 am
Al Davis, billionaire pro sports team owner,..old kell, bitter old jealous fool voted ugliest raider fan ever, hahahahahaha!!!
February 6th, 2010 at 9:57 am
Need to photo shop that pic old man, gross…lol.
February 6th, 2010 at 9:59 am
In 2008 the Wharton School Of Business conducted a poll of 1,440 NFL Players, who voted the Raiders as the worst Organization in the NFL
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/article/125013
February 6th, 2010 at 10:00 am
I will say this for old kell,..he has much bigger boobs then any of the raiderettes Iv seen,…least you got that goin for you old fool. lol hahahaha
February 6th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Where do you buy your bras old kell?
lol
February 6th, 2010 at 10:02 am
So, Oaktown is the Ulan Bator of the NFL.
Good. Screw the rest of ‘em.
Does 30th worst also mean 3rd best?
Can’t think who the other one’s better might be.
Raider On.
February 6th, 2010 at 10:05 am
Nice cleavage old kell,…lol…hey but please, that Grady beard, um,..emmit smith uses that stuff to get rid of the gray,..try it,..a gray Grady beard doesnt go good with your big floppy boobs. hahahahahaha
February 6th, 2010 at 10:05 am
2010 Raider Off-Season: Same ole same ole. 2010 Season: Same ole.
February 6th, 2010 at 10:06 am
2010 old kell offseason…same ol same ol…bitter, jealous, fat,..ugly…and getting even older. lol…hahahaha,,,,while old Al gets richer!!!!! hahaha
February 6th, 2010 at 10:13 am
R8eray, tomorrow at the Suncoast from 5-7, Ben Davidson, Otis Sistrunk, Lamonica and Todd Christenson
February 6th, 2010 at 10:27 am
The Suncoast? Is that off the strip, loaded with nickel slots?
February 6th, 2010 at 10:36 am
lol…come on old loser,..you know youre stayin in your filthy house all day,..wishing you were a billionaire like Old Al,…just stay home and buy bras online old fool,.that is what your day will be like,..lol hahahaha
February 6th, 2010 at 10:37 am
here’s how it all plays out now that Hue Jack and the Waufle man are in the house.
first, all draft picks will be O-linemen.
second, JRuss comes in light on his feet, comes in decisive, and accurate with all his throws.
third, as no other team was willing to part with as much as a chipped tea saucer for McF, McF stays and to the surprise of everyone except Dakota, McF no longer trips over shadows nor does he cough up the ball with regularity. Instead he runs as a future HOFer scoring a TD each game.
fourth, DHB clears his mind allowing his hands to become like tentacles and he snares any pass he can reach.
fifth, the D-line becomes a force. that in turn rubs off on the linebacking corps who get it in their heads to tackle all opposition ballcarriers for little or no gain.
sixth, the O-line, inspired by Hue Jack’s offensive miracles, blocks as a worthy unit propelling the Raiders to a division title.
seventh, the NFL has colluded to put the Cowgirls in the Big Game as it is in their home stadium, but the opponent, plagued by 14 blatantly bad calls and missed calls by the bought-off herd of Zebras, overcomes all the obstacles set before them to win the game.
There you have it Nation. Oakland Raiders, World Champs once again.
Any questions?
February 6th, 2010 at 10:45 am
I agree lonetree but you forgot this part,..old fool kell will still be the jealous fat ugly loser he is today, but a little older, uglier, and fatter, with his boobs maybe even bouncier,…Old Al will be inrisher, and Old fool kell, will still be poor, living in a filthy house,..begging his googlie machine to please support his theories, but they wont, they will alwsays be shot doen in here,..sorry old timer. hahahaha
February 6th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Doofus Boob,
You’re not very good at this.
February 6th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Doofus Boob
Di I look like a fat old man who lives in a filthy house
http://www.move2alameda.com/about.html
February 6th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Doofus
Now you on the other hand, being a junkie boozer, I bet your house is filty. Or your room, or mother’s basement. I doubt you could afford a house.
February 6th, 2010 at 11:17 am
# M Lonetree Says:
February 6th, 2010 at 10:37 am
here’s how it all plays out now that Hue Jack and the Waufle man are in the house.
first, all draft picks will be O-linemen.
second, JRuss comes in light on his feet, comes in decisive, and accurate with all his throws.
third, as no other team was willing to part with as much as a chipped tea saucer for McF, McF stays and to the surprise of everyone except Dakota, McF no longer trips over shadows nor does he cough up the ball with regularity. Instead he runs as a future HOFer scoring a TD each game.
fourth, DHB clears his mind allowing his hands to become like tentacles and he snares any pass he can reach.
fifth, the D-line becomes a force. that in turn rubs off on the linebacking corps who get it in their heads to tackle all opposition ballcarriers for little or no gain.
sixth, the O-line, inspired by Hue Jack’s offensive miracles, blocks as a worthy unit propelling the Raiders to a division title.
seventh, the NFL has colluded to put the Cowgirls in the Big Game as it is in their home stadium, but the opponent, plagued by 14 blatantly bad calls and missed calls by the bought-off herd of Zebras, overcomes all the obstacles set before them to win the game.
There you have it Nation. Oakland Raiders, World Champs once again.
Any questions?
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In other words, again the Raiders are screwed.
Just amazing the abyss Al has created, all on his own.
I’m honestly not sure that anyone could have screwed over the organization worse than Al has…even if they tried.
Horrible, borderline ridiculous draft picks…3 first round busts, in a row.
Horrible asinine FA signings/contracts disasters.
Worst decisions on the planet on hiring coaches.
Players universally rip the organization once they leave.
How can it possibly get any worse?
February 6th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Hey…It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
Ahhh, the usual suspects: a few of the web’s biggest hypocrites…a few expert trolls…and, the occasional voice of reason among them…
Too bad the Raiders aren’t in the Super Bowl! Devastating bummer. Hope those two teams in The Game represent the NFL well.
It’s still — like it always is — a great day to be a Raiders fan.
February 6th, 2010 at 11:31 am
What’s great about being a Raider Fan today?
February 6th, 2010 at 11:33 am
The Raiders have won 29 games is the last 7 years, what’s great about that?
February 6th, 2010 at 11:36 am
I just don’t understand why some of you so-called fans are so comfortable with losing.
February 6th, 2010 at 11:37 am
Yes Kool, off the strip, near my house on the western end of town (Summerlin).
And plenty of nickle slots.
February 6th, 2010 at 11:39 am
HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT
Hey, KK!
KK — you who NEVER has a good thing to say about the Organization or Al Davis…
Why haven’t you even acknowledged the fact that THE OAKLAND RAIDERS ARE SPONSORS OF THE CITY’S MARATHON — its first in decades — in just a matter of weeks now?
Could it be because it would put another hole in your (one and only) false “argument” that Al NEVER DOES ANYTHING GOOD for the community that has (cough) treated him so well all these years?
Of course that’s why!
KK — a Hall Of Fame hypocrite!
HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT
February 6th, 2010 at 11:41 am
C’mon, KK — Tell us why it’s bad for Al to sponsor the marathon now…
February 6th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Summerlin’s nice…as is Henderson. There’s a whole lot in between that isn’t so nice!
February 6th, 2010 at 11:43 am
over the past seven years there have been two hundred and seventeen losers in the NFL vs four or five Super Bowl winners (depends upon manana).
Raider On.
February 6th, 2010 at 11:44 am
Fine, the Oakland Raiders are sponsoring the Oakland Marathon. Whooooohooooo. Ok?
February 6th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Even KK (the less-than uber real estate agent?)understands that… gotta pick your neighborhoods carefully, right, Kell? Like the Raiders did when they moved back to Oakland on a wing and a bunch of hollow promises. Nice to see the City improve the area around that “state-of-the-art” stadium, isn’t it?
February 6th, 2010 at 11:47 am
M Lonetree Says:
February 6th, 2010 at 11:43 am
over the past seven years there have been two hundred and seventeen losers in the NFL vs four or five Super Bowl winners (depends upon manana).
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Over the last 7 years the Oakland have set NFL Records for losing.
3 winning seasons in the last 15.
February 6th, 2010 at 11:48 am
M — Keep on keepin’ on…
February 6th, 2010 at 11:48 am
If Al doesn’t like the City or Stadium, he can go somewhere else. If they’ll have him.
February 6th, 2010 at 11:51 am
HayesDaze,
Summerlin is beautiful, I live right on the fringe of it. Go 3 miles west, and there is the TPC golf course, and 3 million dollar homes. Go 3 miles to the East, and you can get yourself into some pretty seedy spots.
February 6th, 2010 at 11:54 am
HayesDaze
Isn’t this shameful?
That one of the team’s all-time greats, Hall of Famer Willie Brown, announced his retirement not during a news conference but while sitting in his SUV suggests a level of negligence that is downright shameful.
Such self-crippling methods may not hurt good teams that play before sellout home crowds, but they’re suicide for a losing team with retreating fans. Like the Raiders.
The Raiders can continue to operate this way only if they’ve gotten comfortable with their descent into irrelevancy, have lost interest in bonding with the community and are completely dismissive of the unsold tickets that led to seven TV blackouts.
Monte Poole
February 6th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Been a long time, Raider fans. Just read this thread.Have to weigh in on the dog subject. I have raised American Pit and Rottweiler dogs. They are wonderful companions and would give their life through their loyalty. Extremely social, you can’t just chain them up alone in the yard all day/night. They are pack animals, very responsive and trainable and social. The Rot is descended from the dogs that marched with Roman Centurions as they conquered the world as it was. Nevertheless, they can be dangerous. More people are mauled by German Shepherds, as they are very popular and great dogs also. To fight dogs or roosters is simply cruel.
February 6th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
HayesDaze,
likewise.
February 6th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
I have an Akita. Sounds like the same. And I hated Vick for what he did.
February 6th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Lincoln Kennedy hits the nail on the head when he says Warren Sapp is responsible for a lot of the Raiders’ woes.
Al does screw up…like when he hired Warren Sapp.
Worms like Warren Sapp forget they were HIRED by somebody to perform a service. When Warren realized that everyone else realized he was done (no matter how “thin” and fast he got)…the only game he had left was his motor mouth. And, it was (still is) the only way for him to stay employed.
A borderline Hall Of Fame player, given extra life (and a TON of money) by Al Davis to provide leadership and winning ways to a locker room that needed it…and then dumps on the team, their teammates, their owners, whatever…are better off elsewhere.
There are signings that instantly make one cringe with concern (or should): Randy Moss, Sapp, MeAngelo, Romanowski, Ricky Manning…and other names less notorious…that have done nothing but spoil the locker room.
Even occasional stellar play can’t hide the negative effects of adding “ME FIRST – ALL THE TIME” ego cases to a football team seeking steady, positive direction.
Give me egos who are also team players. What a concept.
I think Al’s got it figured out…and yes, it’s unfortunate it’s taken so long. But, any (logical) one who’s been around football for more than 20 years realizes…
When big moves are made for big-name players, they are generational moves…it takes a long time to overcome when those moves don’t work. If any of the guys I mentioned above had truly worked-out, Al wouldn’t have lost the faith of so many of you.
The turnaround is nigh, me Raiders faithful — those that don’t want to be here are no longer welcome. No matter how good they once were.
February 6th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
HayeDaze,
In 2008 the Wharton School Of Business conducted a poll of 1,440 NFL Players, who voted the Raiders as the worst Organization in the NFL
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/article/125013
February 6th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
So what, KK?
Boo Hoo. That hurts so bad.
Are you really man, KK? I know so many women stronger than you. I know so many teenagers with more logic and intellect than you. You should be ashamed of your poseur ways.
Cut n’ paste an argument now.
February 6th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
HayeDaze
So, 80% of NFL Players say the Raiders are the worst organization in the NFL, and your response is to call me a poseur? lol.
Don’t you have anything to say about the Players perceptions of the Raiders?
February 6th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
It was a crack-up the past few days to see all you wack jobs (norcoma troll, RickyLake, MR, et al) all piling up on each other.
It was like a web orgy for nonsensical, hate-filled illiterates.
How does it feel, KK — when you’re so funny, and being laughed at, even though you’re trying to be so serious? You and your pals are so cute!
An orgy of haters — all of whom are the jokes of the sports blogging world, because they have nothing to discuss but the hate for “their” team and other real fans.
February 6th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
But the Raiders are the joke of NFL Players, how do you feel about that?
February 6th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Ask Richard Seymour what he feels about the Faketriots.
Ask Drew Brees (or LT) what he feels about the Dolts.
Ask Brett Favre what he feels about the Green Bay org.
Randy Moss, Sapp, et al?
Waaaaaaaahhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s all sour grapes.
Just like a direct quote from you, KK: “Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!”
You’re so easy, man…move along.
February 6th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
How about FOOTBALL, KK?
Which veteran QB should be brought in to duke it out with Grads/Frye/JaMarcus/Losman for the #1 spot? (Yes, in that order)
Or…is JaMarcus still a victim, and he should be given the #1 spot without competition?
February 6th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
February 6th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Ask Richard Seymour what he feels about the Faketriots.
Ask Drew Brees (or LT) what he feels about the Dolts.
Ask Brett Favre what he feels about the Green Bay org.
Randy Moss, Sapp, et al?
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Sure, there’s always sourgrapes. But when 80% of NFL Players vote the Raiders as the worst franchise……., that’s different, no?
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/article/125013
February 6th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Yes, Vegas — lots of nice neighborhoods around town for sure. VERY familiar with the town and casino play.
February 6th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
No answers eh Haze?
February 6th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Ahhh, KK — You REALLY don’t want me to beat you up with your own argument, do you?
February 6th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Give it a try.
February 6th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Lincoln Kennedy hits the nail on the head when he says Warren Sapp is responsible for a lot of the Raiders’ woes.
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I’ve been saying that for a long time. Warren and those guys were suppose to be leaders. Players looked up to those guys and when the captain (leader) jumps ship everybody follows. They set bad examples instead of playing harder moss dropped passes on purpose… and then have then have the nerve to get mad because we’re losing??? Hellooo!!! you’re making us lose ass hole dropping td’s what do you expect.smh
February 6th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
old kell, yes you look like a fat old ugly fool with big floppy boobs,…look old jealous fool, Al is a billionaire, youre just an old man on a blog showing his jealousy daily,…get over it old man,…you lose…it is what it is,…you need a better pic,…as we all can see, you look like aunt esther,..sucks to be you.lol…hahahahahaha
February 6th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Excuse me, how long have Moss and Sapp be gone?
February 6th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Why the hell would I be jealous of an 80 yr old man?
February 6th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
old kell,..where do you buy your bras?…lol
February 6th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Im not jealous of you kell,..you think we are jealous of you?…an ugly old man?…dude you look awful,..overweight,..poor,..and you are jealous of rich white guys….lol..sucks to be old kell.
February 6th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
let see,..do we want to be old kell,..old,…fat…man boobs,…poor,…bitter….jealous…angry…ya, must be great being you old kell…lol hahahahaha
February 6th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Please no tim brown in hof today.
February 6th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
kk
Those are the oppinions of some 1400 players who im quite sure almost none have ever played for the raiders and only go off horror stories told by such players like sapp, and moss who have sour grapes, along with the media. When seymour got here he said after seeing things for himself it wasn’t as bad as he’d heard. So that survey you posted is invalid because those players are speaking off trend and not what they know. All the top teams are teams who are winning, its the trend to pick the winner as the top organization but thats not necessarily true because its the players in the end who win the game. The patriots had the best players at the time but I wouldn’t say theyre the best organization. Look how al rewards his players who perform, and look at how the pats did seymour… Look at how the cardinals are doing anquan…
February 6th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
old kell,…your biggest issue, well you have so many, but,..you and old Al are about the same age,..but hes a billionaire, and you are just an old fat poor man, scraping by,…dont be jealous of his wealth old man, you had the same opportunities as he did,..he bacame a billionaire, while you became a jaelous old loser,..get over it….lol…hahahahahahahaha!
February 6th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Tom Cables Pimp Hand Says:
February 6th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
kk
Those are the oppinions of some 1400 players who im quite sure almost none have ever played for the raiders and only go off horror stories told by such players like sapp, and moss who have sour grapes, along with the media. When seymour got here he said after seeing things for himself it wasn’t as bad as he’d heard. So that survey you posted is invalid because those players are speaking off trend and not what they know. —————————–
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
February 6th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Doofus Boob
You are Stoooo-Pid.!!!!!
February 6th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
I’m waiting Haze…………….
February 6th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
KK — YOU ARE A FRAUD…and the claims you make about the article you often plagiarize are FALSE. YOU CONTINUE TO LIE when it suits your argument.
That tired OLD article is about a study conducted on 80% of active players at the time. Once again…the survey was taken of 80% of active players — and NOT 80% of active players (as you claim) say the Raiders have the worst organization.
There’s a HUGE difference in how the survey really reads, and what you report in your never-ending FALSE claim that 80% of players say the Raiders are the worst.
Once again, caught in a lie, KK!
Oh, yeah…you hard-head, you — What does it mean that the teams at the top of that (ultimately meaningless) list were teams with winning records at the time…and the teams on the bottom were teams with losing records? It’s not coincidence, brainiac.
Or, that one “best” coach (Herm Edwards) isn’t even in the league, because he keeps getting FIRED? Or, the other “best” coach (Belichik) is being outed for the fraud he is more and more all the time?
So, KK, fraud yourself…got any other surveys you want to share? Ummm…I mean…you got any surveys YOU WANT TO SHARE TRUTHFULLY?
Hypocrite.
February 6th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
old kell,..why you so upset about Als wealth?…its not his fault you are a failure,..youre both about the same age, same opportinities,..he succeeded,..you didnt,..get over it….and the fact he looks better then you Im sure doesnt help your jealousy of him. lol
February 6th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
If that “survey” was taken in 2001, the Raiders would’ve been in the top-10. If the Raiders were .500 the year it was taken, they would’ve been in the middle of the pack.
Even a simpleton can figure that one out. Can’t one? KK?
February 6th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/article/125013
A survey conducted by the Univ. of Pennsylvania’s Wharton Sports Business Initiative (WSBI) last season for the first time asked NFL players about “issues related to their coaches” and to “name names, and the players overwhelmingly obliged,” according to William Rhoden of the N.Y. TIMES. Taking part in the study were 1,440 players, “or roughly 80[%] of those active in 2007.” In the study, players were asked to identify the worst and best organizations in the NFL, and the Raiders, Dolphins, Cardinals, Browns and Bengals were among the worst, while the Patriots, Colts, Cowboys, Packers and Steelers were among the best. When asked whom players “would most like to play for,” players ranked the Colts’ Tony Dungy first, followed by the Bears’ Lovie Smith, the Patriots’ Bill Belichick, the Chiefs’ Herman Edwards and the Steelers’ Mike Tomlin. When asked whom players “would least like to play for,” the players named the Giants’ Tom Coughlin, the Jets’ Eric Mangini, the Buccaneers’ Jon Gruden, former Falcons coach Bobby Petrino and Belichick. Ninety percent of the players said that they “respected their head coach, three-quarters said they trusted their head coach and 79[%] said their coach was top quality.” The study “was intended to be the first in a series of annual player surveys that will examine a variety of aspects of NFL franchises — including the front office and ownership.” UPenn sociology department Chair Tukufu Zuberi, who co-conducted the study, said, “I think this survey is historic. Nothing like it has ever been done before. … You always hear sportscasters and analysts ranking teams and ranking the best coaches and what is important about being a good coach. It’s rare that the athletes themselves express their opinion. What this survey does is give the players a voice” (N.Y. TIMES, 10/26). The following charts details player rankings of the best and worst organizations in the NFL. No players nominated the Packers, Seahawks or Panthers as the NFL’s worst organization (WSBI).
February 6th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Now, KK has to go back to re-read the article he’s been either LYING ABOUT or mis-quoting for the past few years…
Once again, caught in your convenient lie, KK!
Now…want to invite me to make you look stupid(er) again?
February 6th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
“Taking part in the study were 1,440 players, “or roughly 80[%] of those active in 2007″
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You are amazing, if not smart, KK.
What part of “80% of those active” do you not understand?
Nowhere…again, I say…NOWHERE in that article does it say what percentage call the Raiders the worst organization. NOWHERE.
KK, YOU”RE A FRAUD, A HYPOCRITE, AND A RACIST…and I LOVE to point it out, when others let you slide with your BS claims.
February 6th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Raiders ranked #8 worst franchise in sports.
“Have hit hard times because of inept owner.
http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/worst-professional-sports-franchises.asp
February 6th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
The losing has been awful and the decision making a total disaster.
With that said, I don’t expect the team to win these days. Like Norco, just enjoy Sunday NFL football. There are only 16 games a year.
February 6th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Haze
I posted it for YOU. NFL Players rank Raiders as worst franchise. Yes or No?
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/article/125013
February 6th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
AND — HYPOCRITE, KK…
Belichick is listed as one of the “best” to play for…AND…he’s listed as one of the “worst” to play for.
How can that be?? Is this a meaningful survey or a joke?? Oh, yeah.
Yeah, KK — that survey’s something for you to put a lot of your effort into defending. For 2+ years even!
Fool AND hypocrite.
February 6th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
So I guess everyone is right.
KoolKell is spot on about Al Davis and the ineptness of this organization.
Norco is right in that Davis is going to do his thing and your better off just enjoying the atmosphere of the game…..
I am still a Raider fan….but it just isn’t the same when you know the team isn’t going to win.
Will DAvis change? Who knows, I expect another long-term project in the 1st and 2nd rounds of the draft and the same ole b.s in the offseason.
But I will still watch…just won’t get too much wrapped up in it given the decision making and players on the roster
February 6th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
KK — Now give the real numbers. Read what it says, KK, and tell the truth.
Oh, yeah…that’s right. The Ebonics you were forced to learn (all because Al didn’t line the City’s streets with silver) didn’t offer you a class in statistics and how to extrapolate figures. Your Home-Ec class must’ve just taught you how to mix sour grapes.
February 6th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Old kell,..lol,..proves once again that he cant get over his jalousy of al davis,..old kell, you think Al obsesses over you?…lol…old kell is just another bitter, jealous angry old men that cant fugure out how peolpe like al davis become billionaires and get in th HOF,..while losers like old kell becomeold, fat, jealous losers that amounted to nothing,..al davis doesnt even know you exist old man,…its your right to be a frustrated old fool kell,..which you come in here and prove daily,..actually hourly,..as you clearly have no life outside of obsessing over al davis and all his success. lol
February 6th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
(NEWSER) – Great NFL organizations don’t always win Super Bowls, so Adam Schein separates the well oiled from the well Lombardi’d for Fox Sports, ranking franchises on everything from their coaching staffs to public-relations people.
The top three:
New England Patriots: “The model franchise in all of professional sports.”
Pittsburgh Steelers: A penchant for toughness and even tougher fan base.
Philadelphia Eagles: Coach Andy Reid gives this all-around stellar organization an edge over the rival New York Giants.
The bottom three:
Oakland Raiders: Al Davis, where have you gone?
Cleveland Browns: A man known for losing and alienating players is the new head coach.
Detroit Lions: This fumbling team has been trying to roar its way back since 1957.
Your team not on the list? Find out where it rates by clicking the link below.
http://www.newser.com/story/60485/the-best-and-worst-nfl-franchises.html
You getting the picture, Haze?
February 6th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
al davis = billionaire in the HOF….old fool kell = a nobody, failed at everything, jealous old fool. sorry old man, keepin it real.
February 6th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
sorry old kell, your links wont change the facts,..al davis wins, you lose,..you just cant handle that can you old fool. lol hahahahahaha
February 6th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
SnB
I will not sit back and accept the losing.
February 6th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
but youre always invited to our tailgates,…will put on a can of pork n beans for you old kell.
February 6th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
you will accept that al davis is a success, and your an old jealous failure,..thats whats bothering you,..not the raiders, its al davis is a billionaire in the hof,..and youre a nobody,..period.
February 6th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Doofus Boob
Unemployed pill poppin boozer. I really could care less what you think. You’re waaaaaaay too Stooo-Pid
February 6th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
old kell,..when will you get in the HOF?…become a billionaire,..like al davis?…lol hahahahaha
February 6th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
maybe al davis gets on a blog and tells of his exciting days goin to the deli and seeing an old raider legend…lol hahahahahaha
February 6th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Ranking the NFL Organizations:
NFL Post has the Raiders at #30
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/ranking-the-nfl-organizations-4.html
Haze, you getting the picture?
February 6th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
one thing will never change old fool kell,..al davis will always own your sorry jealous aassss,..you cant go a minute without thinking of him,..Al wins, you lose,..nothing new there right old kell?…lol…hahahahahaha
February 6th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
What picture, KK?
The one that EVERYONE in the world has…that the Raiders have sucked for awhile?
Ooooohhhhh…what a revelation!
So F-ing what?! I’m a real fan, unlike you, KK…and I will always support THE TEAM, aka THE ORGANIZATION.
I don’t wait for a $25 scalped ticket, so I can sneak-in my flask of cognac (to avoid paying for anything in the stadium), before I make a “show” of being a fan.
Long live Al Davis — even if he screws it up all over again. Hopefully, he won’t…but even if he does, I’ll still be here, and still be a fan.
Proud to be a fan — win or lose. Try it sometime, KK — being a real fan can feel pretty good. Especially when you tell more truths than lies, you hypocrite.
Super Bowl or bust baby!
February 6th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
al davis is a billionaire in the hof,..old kell isnt,…getting the picture?…lol hahahaha
February 6th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
we get the picture old kell,..you are being owned by al davis,…all day, every day. hahahaha
February 6th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
HazeDaze
You see what I’m saying?
Ranking the NFL Organizations:
NFL Post has the Raiders at #30
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/ranking-the-nfl-organizations-4.html
Haze, you getting the picture?
February 6th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
hey old kell,..youre poor, old, fat,…ugly,..not in the hall of fame,…you getting the picture?
February 6th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
HazeDaze
3 winning seasons in 15 years?????
You’re absolutely fine with that?
February 6th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Since you won’t address ANY football-related topics, KK, you have succeeded in boring me out of here — like usual.
Enjoy the abuse and tail-chasing, you hypocritical racist fraud, you…that is, until I embarrass you for your lack of intellect and integrity once again!
It’s a GREAT day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
February 6th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
We`re fine with laughing at your jealousy. lol hahahaha
February 6th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
KoolKell
I am beginning to think that you are a sadist
February 6th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 6th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
SnB
I will not sit back and accept the losing.
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I hear you. But Davis is going to continue making decisions the way he does. He doesn’t care about attendence and fan support….his bread, along with the rest of the league, is buttered by the TV contract…that all teams share equally.
Also, he doesn’t have an expensive debt payment to cover or any debt from acquiring the team.
He will just sell off a lit piece of the team if he needs the cash.
I just don’t think Davis looks at or runs his team like a pure business.
February 6th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Sapp pulled off NFL Network:
Warren Sapp questioned in domestic violence case
Posted by Mike Florio on February 6, 2010 5:06 PM ET
It’s been a bad couple of days in South Florida for a couple of former University of Miami players.
On Thursday, Michael Irvin was sued for rape. On Saturday, Warren Sapp is being questioned in connection with a domestic violence case, according to Omar Kelly and Brian Haas of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel.
“He’s being questioned in reference to a domestic battery,” Miami Beach police spokesman Juan Sanchez told the Sun-Sentinel. “No one has been arrested yet.”
I bumped into Sal Paolantonio a couple of minutes ago, and he said he’s reporting that NFL Network has pulled Sapp off the air, at least for now. NFLN has decided to keep Irvin on the air.
Irvin currently is appearing on NFL Network as part of the Hall of Fame announcement show.
February 6th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Raider Nation!!!…however theres always a loser wannabe fan out there, like old kell,…but that old demented bitterman,..hes here for our amusement,..we love to laugh at that old jealous fat loser,…no links are going to help you now old kell, we all see what you are,…you prove it every day,..just an old man, hangin in a blog,…you are actually the oldest man Iv ever known to hang in a blog,…try and get a life someday old loser kell,..but until then, we will continue to laugh at your sorry aasss!!! hahahahaha
February 6th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
February 6th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
we get the picture old kell,..you are being owned by al davis,…all day, every day. hahahaha
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It’s true. If someone has to come in here every day and rant and rave about someone they have never met, they are owned by that person. Completely totally owned. Kinda like the way that oakglen guy owns wack-o-chet and mistabrOwn.
February 6th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
I will leave you with this though old kell,..you have great boobs,..big and floppy,..lol..hahahahaha!
February 6th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
July 14th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
What does it hurt to lose the most games over 6-years?
Ummm…NOTHING, but merchandise and ticket sales.
Oh, and a lot of pride.
But, that’s all.
————————
You call yourself a fan?????????
February 6th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
HayesDayz,
From a win loss standpoint this has been a TOTAL disaster.
Draft picks…poor coaching….horrible free agents….its been a disaster.
Davis is FORCING JaDavis Russell into the lineup. What do you think about that?
February 6th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Timmy isn’t getting this year
February 6th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Doofus Boob
Junkie, boozer. Sure, whatever.
February 6th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Cris Carter isn’t getting in this year either
February 6th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
The Al Davis idolaters want to make ME the issue regarding the Raiders??????????
I don’t run the Raiders.
February 6th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
old kell is just jealous of Big Al, Hehehehe, Hahahaha, Hehehehe, Yuck, yuck, yuck, hehehehe, hahahaha
-Doofus Boob
February 6th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
You know, I think VegasRaider brought this up: pick a GM from another organization and let’s compare that guys picks over the last three years to what Davis has done over the last 3 years. Davis has not drafted as poorly as the posters here think. With the exception of our lst rounders, the others have been VERY good. And as I posted a day or so ago, the 07 draft with Jamarcus, there have been very few lst rounders from that draft that have had major impacts for their teams.
February 6th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Afternoon Nation,
I’m with the Raiders win or lose. I think however if the old man would hire someone to help with the personell decisions, those of us that are frustrated by the same old song and dance, would at least be encouraged.
Norco has made His peace. Good for Him.
Kell not so much.
A question for you Kell. If the old man were to bring in a Pro Personell man /GM, would you temporarily change your tune?
Just curious.
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