UPDATE: Pendergast official
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, February 8th, 2010 at 1:21 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders made no announcements regarding the hiring of former Cardinals and Chiefs defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast Monday, although a team source confirmed an interview had taken place and that there could be something forthcoming this week.
ESPN reported Pendergast was hired to coach defensive backs with Oakland. According to the Raiders, no contract has been signed.
According to Raiders.com, Pendergast is now officially on board.
No word as to whether Pendergast will coach along with Lionel Washington, essentially placing Willie Brown, or if Washington has been given permission to seek other employment after one year on the job. In fact, the Raiders says only that he is joining the coaching staff and doesn’t designate a specific responsibility.
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February 8th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
OKAY
February 8th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Wonder what the HC of the Raiders thinks about pendergast?
February 8th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Mr. Davis and his henchmen, bad decisions, bad business…
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Lionel Washington has a career contract for sticking to the Cable story.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
LMAO at you dopes…maybe McFadden hasn’t blown us away yet, but we get the same or better production out of our DTs as Ellis provides.
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Wrong, ellis missed a coule of games this year…
February 8th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Thec07 Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Mr. Davis and his henchmen, bad decisions, bad business…
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Ahh but according to crying Al Davis apologists….the old man can do no wrong.
Some people are either blind, stupid or naive or even worse ALL OF THE ABOVE.
Like Priesst. LOL
February 8th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Thec07 Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
LMAO at you dopes…maybe McFadden hasn’t blown us away yet, but we get the same or better production out of our DTs as Ellis provides.
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Wrong, your not considering the games ellis missed this year….
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You think a few games is going to make up the 20 tackles he was behind Kelly?
LMFAO
February 8th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Ellis played in 10 games, how many did warren, and kelly play in????
February 8th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
LMAO you think kelly warren > ellis….
February 8th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Ellis > warren, and kelly…
February 8th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
# Dakota Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
JB,
Lol, good one…how many times did I hear Ellis’ name last night? And how many career sacks does he have…2 or so?
LMAO at you thinking Ellis would make any difference playing in Oakland…hell, he would still be sitting behind Kelly and Warren.
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He was taking up 2 & sometimes 3 blockers. That meant someone else was open to make the play. He would have played next to Kelly if he’d been picked. Football is a team game and if a player can draw multiple coverage then someone else has a better opportunity to make the key play. It’s not always the guy getting the sack that’s making he play. Someone had to create an environment for the other guy to shine. Still say Ellis would have provided us more bang for the buck had he been picked. Given he wasn’t we’ll have to root for DMAC. Hopefully they’ll start playing him where he’ll be most effective – Slot WR.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
34 tackles in 10 games = 3.4 per game, multiply that avg by 6 games he missed and yes he will do just as good as our 2 scrubs…. = 20.4 sack….lol
February 8th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Ellis > warren, and kelly… All day everyday, and not even close…
February 8th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
#
k .. THE WHO this year , who they got planned for next year ? methusula and his b.c. band ?
the fukkin nfl is full of old rich out of touch idiots
i mean that halftime show was worst than last years debacle . please the halftime show should be epic every year .
February 8th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Don’t get me wrong, our DTs leave a lot to be desired…but so do Ellis and Dorsey. They would have had zero impact on the Raiders.
Now if you want to talk about Ryan Clady that is another story…but before you do, please post a comment you made prior to that draft hoping for Clady, otherwise you are just full od schyt.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
i mean/ in the ha;lftime show people should be exploding and jumping off of bulidings. the nfl is so cocky and arrogant that they dont give a flat fukk!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 8th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Props to the SAINTS. They deserved the win! They played inspired ball all year. Just goes to show what a team can do when they have a top notch QB, and a creative OC play caller. Sean Payton has a very large set & it showed on the on-side kickoff call at the opening of the 3rd Qtr.
I’m really happy for the Saints and he Who Dat Nation. I just guess it was their turn.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Thec07 Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
34 tackles in 10 games = 3.4 per game, multiply that avg by 6 games he missed and yes he will do just as good as our 2 scrubs…. = 20.4 sack….lol
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So he might have equalled Kelly’s tackle production…wooooooohoooooooooo
so what?
February 8th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
im not happy for the saints at all. and JB . if u say who dat nation ? one more time ima come to yur house and ear fukk u to death .
February 8th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
THERES ONLY 1 FAN NATION. RAIDER NATION. ALL OTHER FANS HATE US BUT THEY COPY US. SMH
February 8th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
the nfl isnt understanding that people who dont watch football need 2 see greatness from the superbowl. people should be talkin bout the halftime show for 3 days at work . im willing to bet not even old 62 yr old white dudes enjoyed that /
February 8th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Yep, that Ellis lead d-line giving up 5.21 yards per carry really carried the day for the Saints!
Lol
February 8th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
# Dakota Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Don’t get me wrong, our DTs leave a lot to be desired…but so do Ellis and Dorsey. They would have had zero impact on the Raiders.
Now if you want to talk about Ryan Clady that is another story…but before you do, please post a comment you made prior to that draft hoping for Clady, otherwise you are just full od schyt.
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I didn’t call for Clady but I certainly did call for Eugene Monroe but I guess we needed a track star more. I’ve been an advocate of rebuilding the lines for some time now. Hopefully this wil be the year. We need, aside from a MLB, a OT, C, OG, DT & DE. Those are all glaring needs NOW!
February 8th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
like i said dakota. defense dosnt win championships. team execution does. the saints defense is soft as heck! even jon vilma is overrated. they cant stop run or pass at all . only can create turnovers.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
So he might have equalled Kelly’s tackle production…wooooooohoooooooooo
so what?
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So what? The guy we picked = CFL benchwarmer production!
February 8th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Your comment was kelly, and warren had better production. Just making a comment based off your ridiculous stats comment…
February 8th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Dakota Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
2009
Kelly 55 combined tackles 1 sack
Warren 35 combined tackles 2 sacks
Ellis 34 combined tackles 2 sacks
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your post… So what???
February 8th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
McFadden sucks, blah blah blah
You guys will regret those comments soon enough…I’ll make sure of it.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Anyone know where that, “Who Dat” crap came from, anyway? Only time I recall ever hearing it was in a silly (but fun) Adam Sandler movie, “The Waterboy”. QB gets bell rung, someone swipes a smelling salts syrette under his nose. He wakes up and, with eyes rolling, says, “Who dat”. Is THAT it ???!!!
February 8th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Never said dmac sucks, i like dmac and he will excel with a real OCO, but your argument about ellis is not even close…
February 8th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
I hope this Pendergast deal gets done soon. Along with Hue Jackson, this could be another nice addition to the coaching staff. So far this offseason is off to a nice start. Now if those reports of JR being in AZ at a training facility, working to get in shape turn out to be true…
February 8th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Thanks Jerry, for your breaking news that there is no news.
And Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still valiantly holding on in his fight to remain dead.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Didn’t bring up the Dmac – Ellis issue to create a firefight. Rather to give Dakota a little humorous twang. I recall both of us going back and forth pre-DMAC draft. I wanted Ellis and he wanted DMac. I just found it humorous that my guy now has the ring and Dakota’s guy has only received the finger. I think DMac can be very successful but not as a RB. Slot WR is his forte in this league. Again, just my opinion.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Thec,
You are right…Ellis is on the same level as our crappy DTs. Congratulations! Still not worthy of the #4 pick.
Now pay attention, as soon as McFadden has a QB worth a schyt, and an o-line that isn’t hand picked by the Buffoon, you will sing his praises….and I’ll be right here to remind you of how short-sighted you were back in 09.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
i mean . roger daltry fat belly old azz looked like he was too tired to even be up there
February 8th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
You guys will regret those comments soon enough…I’ll make sure of it.
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So, Coach Dakota, what is your plan for keeping DMAC from tackling himself and coughing up the ball?
February 8th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Oakland needs a huge earthquake to destroy the coliseum. Then America and the officials will rally around the Raiders as they win the Super Bowl.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
Dakota, I have not said one dispariging remark about. DMAC… DMAC is going to shine quixk as we get a real OCO, and QB…
February 8th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
i mean/ in the ha;lftime show people should be exploding and jumping off of bulidings. the nfl is so cocky and arrogant that they dont give a flat fukk!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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No, that was the Patriots 2001 Super bowl. I still cringe when I see U2 doing “Where the streets have no names” with the giant silk clothes behind them with all the names of the killed in 9/11 representing the two towers and then dramatically crumples to the ground?
Fu-k-ing sickening.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
its 2010 dakota.. anyway. why couldnt the nfl just book a trio performance of beyonce , taylor swift and evenescence ?
February 8th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
I’m old and even to me those guys were geezers. What’s up with that? Each of them had to qualify for Medicare. I guess JJ’s boob was just too much for he selection committee to bare (pun intended).
February 8th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Thec07 Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Never said dmac sucks, i like dmac and he will excel with a real OCO, but your argument about ellis is not even close…
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Well then never mind about McFadden.
And the only thing your correcting me about Ellis has proven is that he might be as good as Kelly, and that he is injury prone…still not a great pick @4 either.
I wish McFadden had been selected by a real team…sad to waste all that talent on a team that has a clueless coach, pays no attention to the o-line except to sign scrubs and call them starters, and plays a QB that demands zero respect and allows 8 men in the box.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
SinceFrankYouellField Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Anyone know where that, “Who Dat” crap came from, anyway? Only time I recall ever hearing it was in a silly (but fun) Adam Sandler movie, “The Waterboy”. QB gets bell rung, someone swipes a smelling salts syrette under his nose. He wakes up and, with eyes rolling, says, “Who dat”. Is THAT it ???!!!
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People asked “Whos in the playoffs?” The Saints. “Who Dat?” they became the “Who Dat” Nation. ugh…
February 8th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Next years halftime show is Neil Diamond.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
albertbigalowpaine i know right ? dats why i was like fukk haiti cus errbody wants to jump on the ” oh we need 2 help them bandwagon “
February 8th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
You guys will regret those comments soon enough…I’ll make sure of it.
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So, Coach Dakota, what is your plan for keeping DMAC from tackling himself and coughing up the ball?
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I’m sorry, but that’s really funny? Well spoken. LMAO
February 8th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
its 2010 dakota.. anyway. why couldnt the nfl just book a trio performance of beyonce , taylor swift and evenescence ?
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Did we play a game in 2010…didn’t think so.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
its 2010 dakota.. anyway. why couldnt the nfl just book a trio performance of beyonce , taylor swift and evenescence ?
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Or Enrique Caruso.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
I believe “Who Dat?” originated in the 80s when the team made the playoffs. Its a creole thing. The joke was “Who dat playing for them Saints” or “Who dat gonna beat them Saints?” I could be wrong. But, that is how I remember it.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
please be kidding ? no neil diamond please. what is the nfl doin ? runnin a government sponsored program to revive the careers of ancient rockers ?
February 8th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
no dakota. but raider fans still think dmac sukks in 2010 too. and many will in august also .
February 8th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
the n this b i t c h jerry comes out with an article sayin send him to bourbon street . like we supposed 2 be happy 4 new orleans? the same jerrymc that said he was no raider fan . just rub it in our face
February 8th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
while our team has been beyond pathetic for years u go and celebrate with saints fans… yeah
February 8th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Satan, you didnt like the halftime show?…I thought it was great!…only better one I have ever seen was the steelers a few years back,..Rolling Stones.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
The Saints are just another example of Obama’s welfare state. The NFL and the officials pretty much gave them that championship.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Who is boring as all f@CK….Bunch of low energy old guys…
February 8th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
DMAC will be good with a real QB, and a Real OCO…
February 8th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
ancient rockers….roflmao….
February 8th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Idiot Davis to Pendergast: “YOU GOT, YOU GOT, YOU HOT WHAT I NEEEED!”
February 8th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Now pay attention, as soon as McFadden has a QB worth a schyt, and an o-line that isn’t hand picked by the Buffoon, you will sing his praises….
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Ahhhh, THATS why he fumbles. Too bad for DMAC that Bush and Fargas get to play with other guys.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
I am glad to see brees win, get to rub salt in the wounds of the discharger fans for letting bress go…
February 8th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
The NFL and the officials pretty much gave them that championship.
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I saw a few PI’s that weren’t called. plus that Lance Moore 2 point conversion wouldn’t have stood for the Raiders
the Colts still could have overcame, but they didn’t
February 8th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
McFadden’s problem?
Cable taking over as HC.
Cable calling plays.
Losing Orean ONeal before 08…hasn’t been replaced yet.
Horrible play at C and RG.
No QB to keep the defense honest.
McFadden had all of us on the edge of our seats in his first meaningful game…then he was injured, just plain Raider bad luck.
But hey, go ahead and give up on him. He’ll make you pay for it though.
Cable is out and Jackson is in. Get us a couple of decent o-linemen, a decent QB and a blocking FB and McFadden will show his worth.
Fukker better learn how to hold onto the ball though…I’ll give you that.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
I thought The Who kicked aasss….worst ever halftime show was Prince,..he/she/it was even worse then that Up With People crapola from way back.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
# Thec07 Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
DMAC will be good with a real QB, and a Real OCO…
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Still think he’ll be great if at the correct position – slot WR. He’s just not physically built for between the NFL tackles running. Yes, he can get around the edge sometimes but he won’t be a successful RB if he can’t get it done between the tackles. hat said, the O-line needs to be upgraded badly. At a minimum we need a new center, right guard & right tackle. We also need to trash the ZBS and get back to smash-mouth power blocking. I don’t know if that’s do able with Cable in charge. He’s the ZBS prophet. So I gues we’ll all have to wait and see what happens.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Im unsure if Monte Poole was just bored last week or if he really feels some big news this week from Alameda,..Im doubting any news at all.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
The funny thing is IF and WHEN the Raiders make it good……all of you here will be in line to blow Al………and dont deny it, you guys know who you are……..
February 8th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
I am glad to see brees win, get to rub salt in the wounds of the discharger fans for letting brees go…
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yeah, it’s pretty awesome. Watch them release Tomlinson, Merriman and perhaps even Jamal Williams this offseason. one of those guys will latch on another team and win the Super Bowl next year after coming up short in every game that mattered in SD. LOL
February 8th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Help me out,..what is an OCO?…maybe my meds slowin me down today, but cant figure out what an OCO is.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
I thought The Who kicked aasss….worst ever halftime show was Prince,..he/she/it was even worse then that Up With People crapola from way back.
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Dude, I know your a washed up stoner, but Prince was the only decent halftime show in the past five years.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Dakota,
I posted on here a week ago or so, that as Raider fans, we don’t know what we have in DMac yet. This guy tore up the SEC for two straight years. He was supposed to be AP with receiving skills. His rookie year, he was tearing through the chefs in Wk 2..and then sustains turf toe on both feet, and seperated shoulder. Last year a knee injury in Wk 5. I want to see a healthy Dmac, behind an upgraded line, before I pass judgement. We may all be pleasantly surprised, yet.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
BOB :
OCO = Offensive Coordinator
February 8th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Frank, #67
nope. the haters will say that the team won games “in spite of Al” if/when we turn things around
any late round picks that have success must have been chosen by Cable or somebody other than Al.
example:
Murphy & Shaughnessy = Cable picks
Norris & Sulak – Davis picks
February 8th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Oh,..got it,..usually people just say OC.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
The League wanted “The Patriots in 2001 and they wanted The Saints yesterday.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Saying that the Saints won because they drafted a bunch of D-lineman is crazy. They won because of their QB and coach.
Their LT was getting beat like a drum by a guy at maybe 60%. They couldn’t get a running game started, and were pushed backwards twice at the 1 yard line. Their D-Line was giving up over 7 yards a carry for awhile and they didn’t get any sacks.
Saints won yesterday because of their QB, coach, kicker and a DB. Shyt somebody better not tell Al!!!
February 8th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
RR, Clearly someone is asleep in the player personnel dept…
February 8th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Is that why the NFL gave the Colts a 10-0 lead and why the NFL made Manning throw the pick six?
February 8th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
UPDATE: Pendergast official
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yippee!
solid hire #3 this offseason (seriously)
I don’t remember many of our DB’s playing like crap last year though. Why is Lionel Washington being outted?
Was he supposed to turn Hiram Eugene, Stanford Routt, Jerome Boyd, Jonathan Holland & John Bowie into solid players or something??? he’s not a miracle worker!
Huff drastically improved and Mitchell showed promise towards the end of the season. Branch is a better SS than highly paid Gibril Wilson was. Nnamdi & CJ = almost as good as it gets
February 8th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Did goodell tell you that old kell? lol
February 8th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Odds have already been set for next year’s SB winner. Can you believe they have the Chokers 2nd from the top at 8-1 odds? Pulease!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4898311
February 8th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
The League wanted “The Patriots in 2001 and they wanted The Saints yesterday.
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Kell: do you think Jim Caldwell feels like Eldridge Dickey?
the NFL didn’t even give him a chance! Goodell must be racist! what a pig
February 8th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
The officials sure let the Saints molest Favre.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
all janet jackson fault . ruining halftime shows
February 8th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Kell: do you think Jim Caldwell feels like Eldridge Dickey?
the NFL didn’t even give him a chance! Goodell must be racist! what a pig
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Mfkr, did I call ANYBODY racist?
February 8th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
# Dakota Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Is that why the NFL gave the Colts a 10-0 lead and why the NFL made Manning throw the pick six?
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LOL. Exactly.
Look folks. I know as Raider fans we’re a little more inclined to believe in refs affecting the outcome of the game with bad calls but come on….Saints won that game. Nothing controversial about it. Quit trying to take it away from them.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
My pot that I recently grew in Arcata,..along with some hash I bought in Antelope,..and the pills of course…Im seeing the future now, I now have the powers of future sight,..Im tellin all you “people”,…Jamarcus Russell will arrive in Napa, unrecognizable…about 30 pounds lighter,…throwin darts…Im tellin ya, Russell is going to shut me and all you mother f`rs up in 2010,…you guys should get high like me, you can see the future…Im hearin Russell is in the desert, bustin his aasss…I have spies down there as I go to spring training every march…you will see,..you will see.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
sooooo, havent heard any1 say colts shoulda went for 16-0
February 8th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
The Who were great yesterday. Ringo`s son on drums was great too.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Rockstar,
Why were you bagging on MM? Comparing him to first round disappointment Derrick Gibson. I know he was a controversial pick at the time, but I thought it was established right after the draft, he was not going to be available as a free agent or even the 4th round. Chi was going to pick him in the 2nd, and Dallas was interested in the 3rd.
I thought the guy had a nice rookie season, and I’m looking forward to see what he can do in yr 2 under the Marshall plan.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
I was pulling for the Saints, happy they won.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Hey I do blame the colts coach,..after quitting on perfect season, and allowing the jets in when they didnt deserve it,..the colts got what was comin to them,…caldwell sucks, shouldnt have quit on perfect season.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Anyone else goin to spring training?…the last place in sports where the beer guy still walks around sellin beers,…I think they still do it in Coors field,..but no Budweiser.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
I was happy for shockey, in preseason that dude came over and talked to me and brian and the rest of us in our endzone during warm ups,..cool dude,..glad he got a td too,..the giants crapped on him and kept that other tight end,..big mistake.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
From Last Night:
# Seymour Bush Says:
February 7th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
One last thing, who were the big losers (other than wack-o and mistabrOwn) today?? The biggest losers of all, (other than those two) are the San Diego DisChargers. This means they gave up on Drew Brees AND Eli Manning each of whom have Super Bowl rings and kept Rivers and still have none themselves. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
February 8th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Kell: is Warren Sapp innocent?
February 8th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Mike Mitchell should be one of the league leaders in sacks for DB’s next year.
Partly because he is a great blitzer, and partly because you don’t want him covering anybody at this stage in his career.
He is a downhill player, and a damned good one. Special teams, blitzing, goalline, and playing in the box is what he should be doing, and that’s what Marshall had him doing.
It’s not that he gave up a lot of catches that was the problem, it was just how bad he looked at times when he did get beat in coverage. Very stiff moving laterally, a fish out of water. He needs to be zeroing in on guys and smacking them, not trying to cover slot guys in a zone.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
You didnt see the future, you saw an optical illusion..
BRL is not an NFL QB….
February 8th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
the n this b i t c h jerry comes out with an article sayin send him to bourbon street . like we supposed 2 be happy 4 new orleans? the same jerrymc that said he was no raider fan . just rub it in our face
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Ease down soldier. Jerry Mac’s ok. He gets us more indepth then anyone else. Who would want to cover this team given their rep with the press and record of late?
Jerry does a fine job.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
buckeye,
Mitch still has a lot to prove in the pass coverage dept.
thats the nicest way to put it
February 8th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
By the way, when Stallworth becomes a Raider, you can thank me,…I talk to him, he still attends Grant High school functions,..and he will be a Raider…book that one.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
saints winning a lombari before the dischargers is priceless…
February 8th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
All charges will be dropped on Sapp,..that skank had it comin.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
Norco Bob Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
My pot that I recently grew in Arcata,..along with some hash I bought in Antelope,..and the pills of course…Im seeing the future now, I now have the powers of future sight,..Im tellin all you “people”,…Jamarcus Russell will arrive in Napa, unrecognizable…about 30 pounds lighter,…throwin darts…Im tellin ya, Russell is going to shut me and all you mother f`rs up in 2010,…you guys should get high like me, you can see the future…Im hearin Russell is in the desert, bustin his aasss…I have spies down there as I go to spring training every march…you will see,..you will see.
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Maybe if you weren’t so high on the Humboldt you would have just read this tidbit of “inside information” on Bill Williamson’s blog 3 days ago instead of waiting for it to come to you in a purple hazed psychic vision.
Sounds like a profound experience though
February 8th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
vegas raider Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Mike Mitchell should be one of the league leaders in sacks for DB’s next year.
Partly because he is a great blitzer, and partly because you don’t want him covering anybody at this stage in his career.
He is a downhill player, and a damned good one. Special teams, blitzing, goalline, and playing in the box is what he should be doing, and that’s what Marshall had him doing.
It’s not that he gave up a lot of catches that was the problem, it was just how bad he looked at times when he did get beat in coverage. Very stiff moving laterally, a fish out of water. He needs to be zeroing in on guys and smacking them, not trying to cover slot guys in a zone.
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he improved dramatically in coverage toward the ned of the season. He’s going to be good.
He and Branch paired with Huff’s resurgence sudeenly give the Raiders what they’ve lacked in a key spot for so long. Solid safety play.
Of course what ever you think is solid for Oakland one year becomes the worst part the next.
We’ll see…
February 8th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
# Mistabr0wn Says:
February 7th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
So the Colts werent the biggest losers today?
Ok genius
lmao
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Now while I will defer to mistabrOwn about losers and losing since he is the biggest loser in all of blogdom, and he has losing down, I still think that the biggest losers in the game last night were the Dischargers. Not only did they have a 14-2 record and the number one seed a couple years ago and choked it, but they had the rights to Eli Manning, traded him, only to watch him win a Super Bowl, then they were the hottest team coming into the playoffs this year, only to choke it, and NOW, their starting Q who they gave up on, was just named Super Bowl MVP! Sucks to be them now doesn’t it?
February 8th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Sometimes the conspiracy theorist in me thinks some of the outcomes of these games seem scripted. After 9/11 the NFL seemed to be angling for a “patriotic” ending. The worst was the Steelers vs. Seattle. That game was officiated so one sidedly that it sure seemed the league was trying to get the Rooney family that fifth trophy they had been waiting so long for. Yesterday I didn’t see it. I thought that crew let both teams play, and didn’t even call any penalties. I think nationally the overwhelming sentiment was with New Orleans, but I didn’t notice any underhanded officiating.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Ufkc the Who and who ever booked them for that gig. BTW, Queen Latifah and Carrie Underwood were both disrepectfully horrible pre game.
Super Bowl entertainment people? Ufc you. U sugg azz.
AND did anyone notice the “themes” they used with the ads? One was back to back commercials featuring slapping. The next one of men with out pants, the next, kicking or what ever.
F’ing re-ta-rded.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
He and Branch paired with Huff’s resurgence sudeenly give the Raiders what they’ve lacked in a key spot for so long. Solid safety play.
Of course what ever you think is solid for Oakland one year becomes the worst part the next.
We’ll see…
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Agreed.
now we’re in a pickle because Huff = solid FS & Branch = solid SS
so do we keep a 2nd round safety that shows promise on the bench except to use for an occasional safety blitz & special teams? or do we cut our 2nd best cover man Huff in a contract year and risk MM being a bust at FS?
February 8th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
# vegas raider Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Mike Mitchell should be one of the league leaders in sacks for DB’s next year.
Partly because he is a great blitzer, and partly because you don’t want him covering anybody at this stage in his career.
He is a downhill player, and a damned good one. Special teams, blitzing, goalline, and playing in the box is what he should be doing, and that’s what Marshall had him doing.
It’s not that he gave up a lot of catches that was the problem, it was just how bad he looked at times when he did get beat in coverage. Very stiff moving laterally, a fish out of water. He needs to be zeroing in on guys and smacking them, not trying to cover slot guys in a zone.
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Vegas Raider is right about this. Our number one problem on defense the last few years has been giving up the big play. How many times have we seen a screen pass on a third and 18 that is designed to get maybe ten yards, that ends up not only getting the lst down, but sometimes forty yards more. Mitchells job is for run support and sure tacking after guys make receptions. So far, so good in that department.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
# Mistabr0wn Says:
February 7th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
So the Colts werent the biggest losers today?
Ok genius
lmao
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Now while I will defer to mistabrOwn about losers and losing since he is the biggest loser in all of blogdom, and he has losing down, I still think that the biggest losers in the game last night were the Dischargers. Not only did they have a 14-2 record and the number one seed a couple years ago and choked it, but they had the rights to Eli Manning, traded him, only to watch him win a Super Bowl, then they were the hottest team coming into the playoffs this year, only to choke it, and NOW, their starting Q who they gave up on, was just named Super Bowl MVP! Sucks to be them now doesn’t it?
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Excellent observations.
Take that DisChargers!
February 8th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
RR
Play a lot of base nickel with Huff in the slot…
February 8th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Nmamdi21,
Agreed. When I say Mitchell isn’t that good in coverage, I’m not taking shots at him because I really like Mike Mitchell!!
You just have to play ALL your players to their strengths, and his strength is going downhill and smacking people.
Huff is the cover guy, Branch is the guy who roams the middle and the surest tackler, and Mitchell is the physical guy you send in on blitzes and to disrupt things.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
The Saints shouldn’t even had been the Super Bowl. The Vikings were robbed. That two point conversion call yesterday was a joke. All year long the refs had called those plays incomplete.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
He and Branch paired with Huff’s resurgence sudeenly give the Raiders what they’ve lacked in a key spot for so long. Solid safety play.
Of course what ever you think is solid for Oakland one year becomes the worst part the next.
We’ll see…
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Agreed.
now we’re in a pickle because Huff = solid FS & Branch = solid SS
so do we keep a 2nd round safety that shows promise on the bench except to use for an occasional safety blitz & special teams? or do we cut our 2nd best cover man Huff in a contract year and risk MM being a bust at FS?
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I’d see if I could get anything outa Huff. He may just be let go when his contracts up. Don’t think he did enuff to merit a fat pay check but would keep him if we could. Gives Mitchell a chance to get better and solid depth at the position.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
113. Sweet! I’m diggin Mitchell too. Want to see what he and Branch can bring to the table next season. We need a kigg azz MLB too!
February 8th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
5pm in Podunk. later fellas
February 8th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
i hope moses and his b.c. band rocks out next years supa bowl halftime show
February 8th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Brian gonna hate on me, but Im tellin all you fools,..check back the archives during next season,..Russell will be playin at probowl level,…laugh now,..Russell and I will have last laugh,…sorry brian, oh and me being in row 1 now of the NEZ,..2010 will be a great season.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
the and that shoulda played halftime
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PCWXz7yQPE&feature=related
February 8th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Who dat? Who dat? The Saints have always been my second favorite team. I lived in NoLa for about five years in the early 90s. And everyone knows Charged Up likes a good party. I wished I could have been on Bourbon street last night. I guess I will just have to wait until the Chargers win the Super Bowl next time it is in the Superdome.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Satan,..should old people just stay home?…(sorry old kell)…Satan didnt like The Who apperently due to their ages,…thats age discrimination,…I thought The Who were great!
February 8th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
So one of the prop bets this weekend was:
Who would score more points Colts-Saints vs. Kobe and Lebron (Sat night).
Lebron scored 47, Kobe 0, and Colts-Saints 48.
Damn the books will amaze you sometimes.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
The Saints shouldn’t even had been the Super Bowl. The Vikings were robbed. That two point conversion call yesterday was a joke. All year long the refs had called those plays incomplete.
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I think the difference between that call, and say the Murphy call in week one, is that there was no contact between the receiver and the DB when the ball got there.
I think when there is player contact when the ball gets there you have to maintain control all the way through…but when you are untouched, once you establish possession in the end zone it is a TD, even if the ball is knocked out at the end.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Bob
I find it funny that you have been hating on JaMarcus since day one, you read one of Bill Williamson’s blogs about JaMarcus and now he is the second coming?
February 8th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
TD or 2 point conversion…
February 8th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
I dont know who bill williamson is,..sorry,..I only read Jerrys blog by the way, for sports that is.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
sup nation?
February 8th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
And yes, I have been russells biggest critic, well next to brian that is,…but Iv changed my mind,…is that not allowed?
February 8th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Vegas,
I think that’s a very fair assessment of MM. He didn’t play much in the base D, because Huff and Branch both really stepped up. But he does have a role in Marshall’s blitz packages. Almost a designated blitzer. He times his blitzes well, and arrives with some pop. I don’t know if he has the hips to turn and run with receivers in man to man, Remember both Huff and Branch played some corner in college. I hope MM isn’t a liability in pass defense. From his college highlights, he looked like he had a knack for timing his hits and breaking up passes. Also, remember he started his rookie season behind the eightball. Missed ota’s because of silly rules, and all of training camp and preseason with a lingering hamstring.
Basically, he is another young Raider with exciting potential.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
ABP, the Saints earned every yard this year. You are just jealous because you know your team will never be back to the Super Bowl. Who dat?
February 8th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
WOW!! This guy Teddy Pendergrast did a bang up job for the chefs.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
CBS uses 2 or 3 of the Who songs for the theme music for their CSI shows, therefore the Who get to play the Superbowl on CBS…
not sure how they worked it out, but has to be connected…
February 8th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Charged up dude,..you should check out the rants n raves in san diego in craigslist,…all bitter mad at AJ and the Spanos family for taking Gomer over brees.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Rivers will have more championships than Brees in the long run Norco.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
brian on phone with me now,..pissed off that Im supporting russell,..he wants Vick. oh well.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Bob”as if you didn’t already know this but Bill Williamson has an AFC West blog on a site that you may have heard of: espn.com.
He reported the exact same thing that you are saying about Russell 3 days ago, almost verbatim. Whoever told you read it on Bill’s blog if you didn’t. Certainly not “inside info” by any means.
As far as changing your mind, totally cool. I say welcome back. I have been one of the very few Russell supporters throughout all of this.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Like Mitchell’s POP on D…
also, LOVED that he was willing ‘to go’ w/ Springs? when he celebrated KO’ing Zach late in the game…like his mindset, need for guys to have each others backs, regardless of what side of the ball they play on…
February 8th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Bob
Tell Bri3n I said “Rap is a joke”
February 8th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
NORCO bob. old people dont have 2 stay at home. but yall have lived yall lives. let us young folks enjoy sumthing . S H I T Z!!
February 8th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
I MEAN ? THE WHO ? MY GOD THEY SUKKED.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
ok dogg,..I will,..but I still dont know williamson, and I never go to espn.com…I goto nfl.com alot though.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Your opinion satan,..I loved them.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
OLD PEOPLE SHOULD REALIZE THAT CASUAL FANS NEED TO BE WOWED. NOT BORED TO DEATH MY MR BURNS AND AUSTIN POWERS UP THERE TRYIN 2 ROCK.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Satan, do you try and spell like a 2nd grader?…or is that some new hip way of spelling?
February 8th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
8. Oakland Raiders — Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State: Forget Tom Cruise scaling a moving locomotive. Want the real Mission Impossible? Trying to crawl inside Al Davis’s head and accurately guessing how he’ll spend a top 10 pick. A wise choice would be taking Russell Okung, an All-American left tackle out of Oklahoma State. Tom Cable would love a prized O-lineman to groom. Then again, who knows if Tom Cable will even be the coach in ‘10?
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/mock-draft-version-1
February 8th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Casual fans need to be wowed? lol
February 8th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
IF THE NFL CONTINUES THIS HORROR . THEYLL LOSE VIEWERS OF THE SUPER BOWL. I TALKED TO A GIRL WHO WAS WATCHIN LIFETIME INSTEAD. SHE SAID IF TAYLOR SWIFT AND KANYE WOULDA PERFORMED TOGETHER SHE WOULDA WATCHED
February 8th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Norco Bob I agree,Prince was thee WORST halftime show EVER.All he did was play that little pentatonic trick over and over fast and the announcers ate it up…Before the game that year,Stevie Nicks and her band preformed.WOW talk about a well oiled machine,they were great
February 8th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
THE SUPERBOWL NEEDS TO BE BIGGER THAN NORMAL NFL. NORCO I KNOW HOW TO SPELL I WAS READING AND WRITING ON A 6TH GRADE LEVEL IN THE 2ND GRADE
February 8th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
I WON THE CITY OF MEMPHIS SPELLING BEE IN 1989
February 8th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
The teams in the hunt at the end always seem to have that tremendous safety back there. Do any of you think it is any coincidence that the Saints went out and got Darren Sharper and next thing you know they are in the conference championship? How bout the Colts missing Bob Sanders? Think he would have made a difference? The Raiders have a pretty good group of safeties with Huff emerging, Tyvon Branch playing very well last year, and now Mike Mitchell added to the mix.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
SATANFEARS ALDAVIS, did they teach how to use lower case letters, or were you sick that day?
February 8th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
JUST CUS I DONT CHOOSE TO SOUND LIKE AN INTELLECTUAL MASTERMIND ON A FOOTBALL BLOG DOESNT MEAN S H I T
February 8th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Satan,…most people dont even watch the halftime show, no matter who it is. Satan, why all the caps?
February 8th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
A lot of other mock drafts show Okung going in the top 5. As long as it is a MLB, OT, DT or DE I’ll basically be happy as long as it’s followed with 4 more big uglies.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
Satan,..seriously, you in middle school or what?
February 8th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
CHARGED UP DID YUR AUNTIE BEATRICE TEACH U HOW TO DO THAT SWIRLY THING WITH YUR TONGUE. CUS U MIGHT NEED THAT WHEN U LOSE YUR JOB B I T C H
February 8th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
NORCO SERIOUSLY , DID U VOTE FOR MCCAIN AND DO YOU JAKK OF TO ANGELA LANSBURY
February 8th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
As far as Kanye,..well the Who are still selling out stadiums, in the 60`s,..Kanye about done,…makes a fool of himself, in about 3 years people will be asking, whatever became of Kanye?
February 8th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Relax Satan,..and dont you know you shouldnt ask people who they voted for?
February 8th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
ROGER DALTRY HAD A MILD STROKE DURING THE PERFORMANCE
February 8th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
If Okung is available, you HAVE to take him. If not, and he probably won’t be, go with McClain. He is the closest thing to Sure Fire ILB in the draft. If Neither are available, that means one of the Q’s probably is, and trade down, and try to get Dan Williams the DT from Tennessee and some other players.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Sounds like YOU had the stroke! lol
February 8th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
JUST U WHITE BOYS. LIIE ITS SUM NATIONAL SECRET. I VOTED 4 OBAMA. CUS HES BLACK!!
February 8th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Nobody forced you to watch them did they Satan?
February 8th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Of course you did Satan. lol
February 8th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
CHARGER FANS DIE A LIL EACH TIME A NEW TEAM WINS A SUPER BOWL .
February 8th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
I like Obama,…but not his white trash half. lol….they look like losers.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
THE FUKKIN NFL FORCED US TO WATCH THEM . THE CRAPPY AZZ WHO …
February 8th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Bob
Gov’t Mule should have played at halftime
February 8th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
I would be happy with Okung at #8, because he shouldn’t be there.
I don’t want Al to reach at any position. If the top 2 tackles are gone, Okung and another, Al might take a LT, and just like DHB, a guy who is the 5th best prospect with lots to work on.
Can we just get the top 1-2 guys at his position in the top? We need just about everything, and the draft takes up so much more importance in the midrounds, so the position in the first round really doesn’t matter.
McClain, Okung, Spikes, Dez Bryant, McCoy on my short list.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
That grandmother of his, the one that died,..trailor trash big time. lol
February 8th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Yhe NFL forced you Satan?…thats awful!
February 8th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
With a name like Satan,..maybe next year Black Sabbath?..that would be awesome!!!
February 8th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
CHARGED UP DID YUR AUNTIE BEATRICE TEACH U HOW TO DO THAT SWIRLY THING WITH YUR TONGUE. CUS U MIGHT NEED THAT WHEN U LOSE YUR JOB B I T C H
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Huh? Looks like SATAN had a meltdown. I think you need a nap.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
Ya,..hang in there Satan,…it cant be all that bad today can it?…..smoke some grass baby,..all good.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
Anyone else see that Rey Malalauggamaggamaluastein checked himself into the B.F. Clinic?
lol
February 8th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Norco Bob Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
I like Obama,…but not his white trash half. lol….they look like losers.
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His white side is who raised him. Just saying.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
I know that Vegas,..but they still look like white trash,..but thats what everyone says about me,..so I guess Im in good company,..if white trash is ok with the President, then I guess Im ok too!
February 8th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Dakota,
I would be fine with Bush and DMAC being the 1-2 punch. Working well in the 1st San Diego game on MNF….then the Coach wanted to go all “Kurt Warner” on the Chargers….except we don’t have Kurt WArner…and we were starting 2 rookie receivers….
The ONLY saving grace is that Hue Jackson has total control of the offense, at least skill players, WITH NO INPUT FROM CABLE
February 8th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Rey is just trying to soften his pending suspension.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
and i dedicate this song to charged up`s auntie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaETyJQWeu0
ahh the good times ….
February 8th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Per Bill Williamson’s blog @ espn.com on February 4, 2010:
Oakland quarterback JaMarcus Russell is training in Arizona. The word is Russell has already shed some weight and he is working on improving his mechanics. It is Russell’s goal to show up for the Raiders’ off-season program in the spring in better physical shape and improved as a quarterback.
This is a good first step for Russell. He is likely entering his last chance in Oakland and he seems to be taking the situation seriously.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/9755/raiders-still-mulling-coaching-decision
February 8th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Still take a rehabing Rey Mauluaga over Darius Heyward-Bey and his 10 catches all season
February 8th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Whats that link Satan?…I dont click on links here.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
They’re from Kansas, that’s what they look like out there.
His grandpa was a vet. Good people. Raised a future president, not something many grandparents can say.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
That is good news Dogg…I guess we’ll just see what he looks like at OTAs…hope he found his motivation.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
The most important thing to draft in the first round is a starter. I noticed when looking at New Orleans’ player page that all of their first round draft picks from the last 6 years are productive starters on the team. How many in Oakland during that time? One (Gallery).
Failed first-round picks (so far, at least): Washington, Huff, Russell, McFadden, Heyward-Bey. All “skill” players. Nice going Al.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
I did hear barkely saying russell was in AZ workin out, when he was being laughed at on that nba game the other night.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Sometimes Bill Williamson at espn outscoops Jerry, in this case Jerry didn’t even mention it…
February 8th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Im smokin this new shyt,..called “Blueberry”,..I must say, never heard of it before,..smells like blueberries,..wow,..killer shyt.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
I just never log on to espn.com….I rarely watch espn either.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
He was drunk as shyt in KY, probably leaving some skanky topless bar. Slammed his car into a parking meter and two parked cars. Just another Bengal run afoul of the law. Still wished OAK would have drafted him instead of DHB though.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Losing weight is good, but he needs to hit up the filmroom at the facility and than go make nice with his teammates.
He can improve his mechanics until the cows come home, if he doesn’t have 110% support from his teammates and can’t make quicker decisions, it won’t do much any good.
But I’ll take it. Baby steps
February 8th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
SR Raider is right on the money! Al Davis drafts these project players in the 1st round as if we have depth etc….you need starters in the top 10. That just shows how HORRIBLE a drafter Al Davis is.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
Bob
Two Words:
The Cheese
February 8th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
SR Raider Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
The most important thing to draft in the first round is a starter. I noticed when looking at New Orleans’ player page that all of their first round draft picks from the last 6 years are productive starters on the team. How many in Oakland during that time? One (Gallery).
Failed first-round picks (so far, at least): Washington, Huff, Russell, McFadden, Heyward-Bey. All “skill” players. Nice going Al.
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One of the Saints best 1st round picks in the last 6 years was pro-bowl LT Jamal Brown, but he was out this whole year. Another WR Devery Henderson did just as little as DHB his rookie year.
Reggie Bush has improved, and played well in the postseason, but he has been somewhat disappointing. Sedrick Ellis has been marginal and hurt.
These things take time, and they take a QB and coach. Until we fix that combo, we need all-stars at all other positions to win games.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Dogg
I love Cheese! Oh and everybody scoops Jerry..
February 8th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Dontae Stllworth is on the market, how long is it going to take for Mr. Davis to sign him per your predictions NBob…
February 8th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
JaDavis Russell deserves all the criticism. JaDavis NEVER embraced the job and couldn’t bother to stay in shape. WOW From a 1st round pick that has a starting job.
Didn’t even bother to show up to study…contrast that with Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco…its FREEKN EMBARRASSING….and think about it…if you asked yourself what team would most likely have a guy like this..who would top your list? Raiders? Bengals maybe…
Its one thing to be terrible but work hard…its another to not even put in the effort so you can enjoy the lifestyle.
JaDavis BETTER come in shape…that’s the least he can do
February 8th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Oh ya?..I will look into that one my next shopping day at the clinic.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Who knows…the right team drafts Russell and maybe he would have been a star…you know, a team without its head up its ass? One that might not have empowered Russell to act like he has? One that might have built him an o-line and given him WRs that could catch and one that didn’t switch OCs three or four times his first two years?
February 8th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Thec,..I talk to Donte,…have been since he was a Saint.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Stallworth cut by the browns..
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/08/cleveland-browns-cut-donte-stallworth/
February 8th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Vegas Raider,
We are still waiting on DHB to catch two balls in a game….DMAC isn’t even the 5th best back in his class….JaDavis???….and we are still waiting for Michael Huff.
How many years before a player starts contributing?
February 8th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
so Nbob, is he saying he will be a Raider?
February 8th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
He told me he loves Hue Jackson,..would love to be a Raider,..but Im guessing he will go where the biggest bucks are…he needs it,..had to pay off that family big bucks.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
He can improve his mechanics until the cows come home, if he doesn’t have 110% support from his teammates and can’t make quicker decisions, it won’t do much any good.
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The support will come from his teammates on the first TD pass he throws, lol!
Quicker decisions? You mean shorter routes and better pass protection? I agree.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Dakota,
Oh for sure…Al Davis and his rank baffoonery is EQUALLY responsible for the JaDavis bust.
His disregard for culture, disrespect for the role of coaching…his clownish drafts…certainly contributed just as much as JaDavis’ work habits.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Didn’t even bother to show up to study…contrast that with Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco
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Herer we go with that again.
Matt Ryan was next to Russell this year watching the playoffs, lol.
Flacco threw for 35 yds last we saw him, lol!
February 8th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
There was not one critic talking about the Russell, DMAC, Gallery, and Huff picks AT THE TIME THEY WERE MADE!
All this Monday morning QBing is silly. Only real head scratcher was DHB.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
Jhill,
Its not all JaDavis’ fault…believe me I understand the ROOT CAUSE of this mess.
But JaDavis showing up overweight…that’s pitiful…not enthusiastically embracing the job and winning over his teammates…that’s all bad stuff.
JaDavis can turn it around, that’s for sure. I also think something went wrong over this last year and I think Tom Cable runs a loose ship and instills no discipline or standards other than some idle rhetoric in press conferences.
I actually think JaDavis was on the right track with Kiffin…but…that didn’t work when Kiffin wanted to act like a head coach and not a head manager.
Granted, Cable did not do Russell any favors..but Russell needs to be that main leader…he needs to reach out to his friend Peyton.
JHill, I am truly rooting for JaDavis….I was one of his biggest supporters at the end of last year…but I can’t get with people that don’t take their job seriously…and JaDavis DID NOT last year….then again no one on the Raiders really did..including the OWNER and General Manager
February 8th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
The support will come from his teammates on the first TD pass he throws, lol!
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The first TD will come a lot easier if he already has his teammates FULL support.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Jhill,
I was totally against the DHB pick.
I didn’t like the DMAC pick because I’ve always believed that Michael Bush was the best back on the team and that RB was not the big need that year.
You are right about JaDavis, Huff and Gallery….those guys just haven’t worked out to expectations
February 8th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
No way you can include Huff as a “bust”.
He will play over 10 years in this league and probably start over 100 NFL games, and I’m sure they all won’t be with us.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
Hey I never wanted Mcskinny I wanted Mack!
February 8th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
What is this with not wanting to draft McFadden because Bush was on the roster?
Bush was inactive all year in 2007 and had zero NFL carries when we drafted Darren.
Bush had the same rookie year as Nick Miller.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
408,
Mack who?
February 8th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
Exactly Vegas.
DMAC was the obvious choice. Our offense didn’t have any weapons and he was the best player on the board when we picked.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
We had Justin Fargas providing steady yards and Michael Bush was a 1st round pick that got injured….I followed Bush in college and thought he transferred well to the NFL.
Look, just my opinion. I am not a fan of taking receivers, running backs and cornerbacks in the top 10. So many of those guys can be had in later rounds…see Chris Johnson, Marques Colston etc…
But lineman (both sides) QBs and linebackers are harder to find….in my opinion
February 8th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
The C from Cal think he went to the browns..
February 8th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
When you talk about Jamarcus and what a bust he is, you have to start from the top down. The organization has been a shambles, the coaching staff a carnival ride, the offensive line a block of swiss cheese, and the players around him seem lost and confused. And they should be. It is long past time for the organization to tighten itself up, give the field personnel decision making to Cable, let him and the rest of the coaches game plan, and let’s see what we have then. I would bet it would be a vast improvement.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
408,
I think you are getting your drafts mixed up.. Mack was last year….you wanted Mack instead of DHB.
So did I.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Unfortunately, Bush didn’t play in 2007 because of more Circus Games by Big Top Al.
Afraid of releasing LaMont Jordan or Domminick Rhodes to the Chiefs or Broncos when the Raiders were in the midst of another double digit losing season. As a result, keeping Bush on the sidelines.
More stupid decision making that has this team securely anchored at the bottom of the league
February 8th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
The first TD will come a lot easier if he already has his teammates FULL support.
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That is just hilarious man. Full support? What does that mean?
I say the first TD comes if Henderson can block someone. If Satele is not whiffing. If Green is not jumping offsides.
The first TD comes if we run the ball, run it again, and then run it one more time. And then mix in some play action off of that.
Miss me with all the off the field drama.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
everybody knows who our leading rusher was last season,thats right….Bruce Gradkowski with a 6 yard average!
February 8th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Fix the o-line and each and every one of our “first round busts” would look better.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Dakota
hahaha R you sure?
February 8th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
vegas raider Says:
Damn the books will amaze you sometimes.
Coming from Vegas I have been amazed by them many times.
They even manage to hit the props like Reggie getting 3.5 receptions.
I hit the Saints at 31 points. That two point conversion made the diff and won me a little money
February 8th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
It’s not off the field stuff, these young guys around Jamarcus need leadership on the field.
Every team can improve with a field general, and we have youngsters everywhere, void of leadership.
Not an easy job for Jamarcus, and a tough hand, but he got paid well for it. Time to do his job and be a steady hand, not a shaky one.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Jhill,
Truth is DHB and Gallery got Russell benched too. That two play sequence where DHB just plain dropped the ball and then Gallery’s stupid penalty on a dime to Murphy didn’t help either.
My critique is the issue of JaDavis being out of shape and the reports of his dedication to studying the game
Make no mistake, Peyton Manning or Drew Brees would be nothing but role players with the current setup in Oakland.
That’s why Sean Payton and Ken Whisenhunt turned Al down to go to other places….because of all the stupid decisions that are made with this franchise
February 8th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
You know who really needs to get in the film room is the back 7. Play recognition really needs to be upgraded. They need to know what formations dictate what routes. Seems like there was a lot of reacting in the secondary by Branch, CJ, and Routt last year. The film study Huff put in showed big time results. Hope that Branch and CJ take a page out of that this offseason.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
How many games did Michael Huff start last year?
February 8th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Plunketthead,
I was stoked when Bush caught the short pass for his 4th catch, lol.
Did you hear of the controversary on the first score before 7:30 into the game? FG was kicked between 7:34 and 7:29. Sports books didn’t know what to do and called it no score before 7:30, which was the underdog and burned everybody, lol. Heard it almost started a riot at one local casino.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
# jhill Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
There was not one critic talking about the Russell, DMAC, Gallery, and Huff picks AT THE TIME THEY WERE MADE!
All this Monday morning QBing is silly. Only real head scratcher was DHB.
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Actually DHB isn’t that much of a head scratcher once you figure it out. Positions are not interchangeable. All LB’s are not the same. There are ILB and OLB’s. Blocking TE’s, pass catching TE’s. With receivers there are possession and speed guys. We wanted the speed guy. Crabtree, Britt and Hakeem Nicks are more possession type guys. The only guy who you could compare to Heyward-Bey would have been Maclin, but (as the Raiders always do) they found DHB to be a much bigger, much faster than Maclin. So they took him.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Trade DMAC for MACK!
February 8th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
I agree with you on the field general stuff to a certain degree. Look, last year was a tuff year for the guy. No argument there. Last year was a new offense from Cable, Hackett, and Tollner with new WRs and a new C. I’m sure everyone returning will have a better grasp of Cable’s playbook this year. And if Russell happens to be lucky enough to play in the same system for 2 or 3 years, then maybe you’ll see what you’re looking for.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Jhill,
The coaching and culture in Oakland is weak. That’s clear. Only two players have really stood out. Asomugha and Zack Miller. Those two strike me as just very smart hard workers for the start, probably self-motivated. Louis Murphy strikes me as that type too.
The rest of the players seem to run in place. They rarely get much better then when they were drafted or acquired.
DAvis doesn’t value coaches and he strips them of a lot of their decision making. I don’t think the coaches are really all that hard working either (just an opinion of course)
February 8th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
# Dakota Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Fix the o-line and each and every one of our “first round busts” would look better.
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I completely agree with that statement.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Huff started after game 3 I believe it was. Eugene got a lot of playing time because Huff got a stinger and was in and out of the lineup. I don’t know why you keep going with the Eugene over Huff angle.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
http://www.nfl.com/players/profile?id=HUF222475
Says he started 12.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
We still Need a C! If Big Al can reach 4 dhb and MM then why cant we get a C in the first round?
February 8th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
DHB was without question a head scratcher!
Plenty of speed guys to be had later in the draft.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
There are two guys that have to be let off the roster right away: Stanford (Just Got) Routt(ed), and Chokie Lee Higgins. Addition by subtraction right there. Let John Bowie have his roster spot.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
When healthy, how often does Troy Paulomalu or Ed Reed sit the bench? Or just come in Nickel situations? How about the Delmas kid in Detroit? Is Huff at that level?
I think he was ok this year. Not bad, but not #7 overall either….and certainly not $5million worth
February 8th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
408RAIDER Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
We still Need a C! If Big Al can reach 4 dhb and MM then why cant we get a C in the first round?
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Amen
February 8th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Let’s hope McGahee slapped Eugene out of anymore future playing time.
The Steelers int was sweet, but that was the exception.
Huff looked real good last year, IMO. He can cover TE’s to WR’s and has good instincts for where the chains are on 3rd downs.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
# jhill Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
DHB was without question a head scratcher!
Plenty of speed guys to be had later in the draft.
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Don’t get me wrong, I WAS scratching my head, I wanted Eugene Monroe as he was 315lbs of granite standing there, but you’re not going to find a 6′2″ 212 lber, that runs a 4.25 forty, with major conference experience in fifth round. That ain’t gonna happen.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
All things considered, Huff is less of a bust than Napoleon Harris, but more of a bust than Robert Gallery.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
SnB,
Hate to break it to you bruh, but that’s what rebuilding is all about. We got old real fast after the last SB run and you can’t fix it all overnight.
Kennedy, Wiz, Robbins, Gannon, Brown, Rice …
We went a year or 2 too long instead of trying to replace them gradually. And you can’t really say it was a bad idea with us making it to the SB.
Al tried to address it with Gallery and Grove, and even Henderson to a degree. Stinchcomb and others have passes through and again, were good picks at the time.
I think we can all agree that we finally have a decent coaching staff in place and a stable of young players to develop.
Enjoy the process man!
February 8th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
vegas raider Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
http://www.nfl.com/players/profile?id=HUF222475
Says he started 12.
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Ok. Just seemed like I saw a lot of Hiram Eugene this year. But, I am glad that Huff was getting the starts. I want to see the guy be the guy.
This team lacks playmakers and a playmaker at safety would be helpful.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Another player the Raiders should target that would be a great addition to that D-Line:
DE Alex Carrington 6′5, 285 lbs, will run a 4.7-4.8 40 at the Combine. He would be able to potentially start at RDE right away.
He may last into Round 2, but his stock is rising.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
I did not hear about that. You would think with all the big bucks they pay “superbright” people that someone would have thought about that ahead of time.
The props were fun.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
vegas raider Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Let’s hope McGahee slapped Eugene out of anymore future playing time.
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LOL
February 8th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
You guys all make fun of Davis’ drafting but Tyvon Branch has played very well. And he was a fourth rounder. Shilens in the 7th, Mario Henderson in the 3rd, Zach in the 2nd, Bush in the 4th, Chris Johnson as a FA. If we could get another D lineman, a MLB, and some Olinemen, this team might have some promise.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
DKnight007 Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Another player the Raiders should target that would be a great addition to that D-Line:
DE Alex Carrington 6′5, 285 lbs, will run a 4.7-4.8 40 at the Combine. He would be able to potentially start at RDE right away.
He may last into Round 2, but his stock is rising.
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That’s sad that we have to quote the 40x of any player we propose. We’ve all been well conditioned at this point
February 8th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
With an offense that scores more points, it will help increase Huff’s value for what he provides to the team.
When it is 21-3, Huff can’t help you that much.
If we are leading 20-17, Huff has great value.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
We have four pix in the top three rounds this time out. Al HAS to make these count. Get some good big uglies in there!
February 8th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Eugene isn’t the only safety Willis has made look silly, but that had to take the cake.
Fitting end to another crappy year.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
There are two guys that have to be let off the roster right away: Stanford (Just Got) Routt(ed), and Chokie Lee Higgins. Addition by subtraction right there. Let John Bowie have his roster spot.
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Agree with that to a degree.
I think Routt HAS to play on the outside if he is brought back. Ridiculous difference in his play from slot vs the outside. I’d start him opposite Nnamdi and put CJ in the slot.
Bowie? Would be good to finally see him get some action.
I’m ready for Murphy, Chaz, DHB, and Nick Miller to shine. We need to add a solid vet to that group like Chris Chambers, so yeah, I’m done with JLH.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
What do you guys think of the idea of moving Trev Scott to OLB?
February 8th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
DE Alex Carrington 6′5, 285 lbs, will run a 4.7-4.8 40 at the Combine. He would be able to potentially start at RDE right away.
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Over Shaugnessy? I don’t think so!
February 8th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Jhill,
Rebuilding. Sure I get that. But the real reason for this perpetual rebuilding are the stupid draft picks this team has made over the years. Only Janikowski, Lechler and Fargas are active players drafted/acquired before 2003. All those drafts from 1996 on totally disappeared and were irrelevant.
And the draft strategy hasn’t changed too much…although it appears Davis has found a couple of keepers in Miller, Schilens, Murphy and Branch
February 8th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
DE is near the bottom of our priority list, along with RB and S.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
# vegas raider Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Fitting end to another crappy year.
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Funny how poetic that play was. A physical player taking our faster athletic guy and shoving him aside like we here shove aside wack-o’s posts. Truly an embarassing yet fitting end to the season.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
vegas raider Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Eugene isn’t the only safety Willis has made look silly, but that had to take the cake.
Fitting end to another crappy year.
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The imagery is killing me….LOL
February 8th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
What do you guys think of the idea of moving Trev Scott to OLB?
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I don’t think it is a matter of “moving” he has pretty much already been “moved” right?
February 8th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
What do you guys think of the idea of moving Trev Scott to OLB?
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Probably saved his career. Really solidified the SLB position, and I think Brown is going to have a tough time getting his spot back from Howard. I think moving Howard away from the TE and using his speed to attack the LOS has been a long time coming. Now if we could just get a big bad dude in the middle!
February 8th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
JHill,
Barrett Ruud should be the guy Davis targets for the big money
February 8th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
# vegas raider Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
What do you guys think of the idea of moving Trev Scott to OLB?
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I don’t think it is a matter of “moving” he has pretty much already been “moved” right?
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yes. My mistake with the semantics.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
SnB,
We just disagree on the draft. Again, it’s easy to say after the fact but Gallery, Huff, Russell, and Dmac were all good picks at positions of need when they were made.
Other good picks – Shaugnessy, Miller, Chaz, Henderson, Bush, Fargas, Nnamdi, Branch, Howard, Morrison, Scott, Oren Oneal.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Draft DT and sign a free agent MLB
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d815753da/WK-17-Can-t-Miss-Play-What-a-stiff-arm
February 8th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Hopefully Jackson will stress the need for a FB this season.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Rudd and Morrison are the exact same size.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
I did not think DMAC was a need. I did not think that was the right pick when made. I wanted a lineman at the time.
I think you had Bush and Fargas and that would have been enough.
But Davis was enamored by speed and athleticsm once again….I wasn’t excited about the DMAC pick at the time and am not all that excited about it now.
Gallery, Huff and JaDavis…ok, those picks can’t be critiqued too badly
February 8th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
I really like idea of Spikes or McClain in round 1.
Go the FA route for a DT and maybe draft one in the 3rd or 4th.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
jhill Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Rudd and Morrison are the exact same size.
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So? Its about playing the position, filling your gaps and having good anticipation.
Patrick Willis is 6-1 240…he’s a beast
February 8th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Mike Singletary wasn’t the biggest guy either….but then again, having the Refrigerator up front certainly helps
February 8th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Fargas was hardly a playmaker. DMAC was a playmaker this offense needed. He was a weapon in college, not a between the tackles RB. I’m pretty sure we will see him used correctly this year. About 10 carries and 5-10 passes out of the backfield. Touches should be the emphasis with DMAC instead of carries. Find a way to get the guy matched up one on one with a S or LB in space!
February 8th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Raider players just have low football IQ in general…again a symptom of poor coaching and incosistent methods
February 8th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Jhill,
The Raiders had the 6th rushing offense in the league in 2007. Michael Bush and Fargas would have been enough to play smashmouth football and eat up yards.
The Raiders needed to (and still needs too) fix the offensive and defensive lines. They neglected it in 2008 and just about every year less the Gallery year.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
As a WR, JLH = James Jett. Fast, but that’s IT !
February 8th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
It’s just a matter of getting a system and sticking to it for the defense SnB. I really hope Marshall is around for a while. I like the things he was doing on defense at the end of the year with the different blitzes. I think our secondary will be much better next year.
February 8th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
Hopefully Hue Jackson has full control. This is one case where I support Davis intervention. Cable was a disaster as an O.C and every player on offense suffered for it
February 8th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
I agree that we need to fix the lines, but we also needed the speed that DMAC and DHB bring to the offense. The days of slow ass WRs like Tim Brown and Rice starting were pitiful.
February 8th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Jhill,
The defense is soft up the middle though. Those big plays occur because the opponent is diligent in just keeping to plug away knowing eventually this team will break.
They need DTs and an MLB. You ain’t winning games with a defense giving up 155 yards on the ground unless you have the Saints or Colts offense.
That type of offense ain’t happening here until Al Davis decides to fix the O-Line
February 8th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
jhill Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
I agree that we need to fix the lines, but we also needed the speed that DMAC and DHB bring to the offense. The days of slow ass WRs like Tim Brown and Rice starting were pitiful.
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That’s fine. Philisophically I hate the idea. Receivers and running backs and cornerbacks can be found throughout the draft.
I think a policy of just drafting the best lineman, linebacker, QB available if in drafting in the top 10 would be a good strategy.
February 8th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
408RAIDER Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Trade DMAC for MACK!
For me? Really?
I’m flattered.
I promise I won’t tip toe toward the LOS n fall down without contact attempting a juke move for a 2yd loss.
For all u Gamers …… Right analog stick
February 8th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
We can debate on what all good D’s have, and how they went about getting those players.
But one thing all good D’s DON’T HAVE, is a giant hole at MLB.
Morrison has to be upgraded. He is a FA and we should let him go about his way and try to find another job.
Spikes and McCLain both seem like top flight MLB’s.
February 8th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Jhill,
We need receivers that catch the ball. Tim Brown and Jerry Rice are among the best of all time.
Its about finding the right players that give you production.
Like Marques Colston…7th round pick…Pierre Garcon…was he even drafted…Percy Harvin and Kenny Britt were found at the back end of the 1st round…
Davis drafts solely on speed and athleticism when it comes to “skill positions”….maybe that’s why he does well towards the end of the draft. Those guys towards the end of the draft tend to be overlooked anyway
February 8th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Vegas Raider,
Al Davis will take the most athletic linebacker if he choses one early. It will be some reach. Then you have to ask if the Raiders are any good at coaching linebackers.
I would rather see them get a solid veteran to be the “QB” of the defense. Get me some big playmaker up the middle and get a vet that already knows how to play the game AND PROVIDE LEADERSHIP to a defense that badly needs it.
Some rookie MLB will be lost in our system early on.
February 8th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
One thing on the half- time show with the Who I noticed that they changed the words to my generation. They didn’
t say “hope I die before I get old” To change the words on that song was just selling out to the man.
February 8th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
Our defense is soft up the gut and needs to be addressed ASAP
February 8th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
post 273
Eugene should have been cut on the spot.
February 8th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
SnB,
Your giving me the Bruce Gradkowski argument for our defense, lol.
We need a big, physical,tough guy at MLB, and both Spikes and McClain seem to fit the mold of defensive captain. Spikes probably more so than McClain, though McClain is supposedly some type of film junkie at 20 years old.
Whoever you take at #8 is going to still be a rookie and struggle at first. We can start Ricky Brown for a couple of weeks if we have to.
February 8th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Everything I have read about Rolondo McClain tells me he may be the run stuffing MLB we need – and – even though he will be a rookie – might provide the defensive QB that is needed. Calling out defenses is supposedly one of his strengths, as is reading and filling quickly. Morrison doesn’t read/fill quickly – he reacts….often too late. He is very devoted, studies hard, but doesn’t anticipate like a great MLB – would probably do extremely well outside.
February 8th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Agreed that MLB is the culprit on the run defense. I like Morrison but not there.
February 8th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
jhill Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
DE Alex Carrington 6′5, 285 lbs, will run a 4.7-4.8 40 at the Combine. He would be able to potentially start at RDE right away.
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Over Shaugnessy? I don’t think so!
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Shaghnssy is the starting LDE of the future when Ellis is done (which is soon) this team needs a dominate full time RDE, who can potentially do it all.
February 8th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Move Seymour inside for 90% of snaps….then in certain downs and situations have him play RDE.
February 8th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Vegas,
I agree. Hoping for McClain in round 1. But if a top flight OT is there at 8,and maybe Spikes slides to Rd 2 ala Rey M. and Laurenitis did last year, I’d take that. As long as Al targets upgrading the OL and the run D in the draft and free agency, I’ll be happy.
February 8th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
vegas raider Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
SnB,
Your giving me the Bruce Gradkowski argument for our defense, lol.
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No, I am not suggesting the Raiders sign a journeyman linebacker that’s been cut by 3 bad teams in his short 4 years. Nope, would never suggest something that poor.
I would go after Barrett Ruud with Tampa Bay or Karlos Dansby with Arizona…DeMeco Ryan….I am making a BIG contract offer for one of those three.
The Raiders are HORRIBLE at developing talent. MLB is a complex position. I don’t trust the Raiders with players at positions like this. So go get someone that ALREADY knows how to play the position at a high level and is a leader on their team.
Get me a big kid to plug the middle on the line in the draft
February 8th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
What if Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers is there at 8?
February 8th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
Seymour moved inside would ideally replace Kelly. The Raiders need a big body to clog lanes and take up blockers. Period. A guy who’s contribution won’t necessarily show up in # of tackles or sacks…but whose plays fuels the performance of those around him.
No linebacker is going to be overly successfull when they are constantly taking on guards and centers with a full head of steam.
The Raiders have to stop this Outside-In madness
February 8th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Al Davis already paid Kelly the big bucks. He is stubborn. Not going to admit he overpaid. Kelly will play. He and Warren weren’t all that bad – especially with Seymour moving in and out, situationally. I believe, those things being given, the key will be a high quality, experienced MLB from free agency or a drafted MLB (McClain) who has shown the talent and smarts to step in.
Just wish I were a fly on the wall at Raider HQ – Kind of hard to discuss this draft stuff without knowledge of what they plan on going after in free agency.
February 8th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Hey Bob,
Were you being sincere earlier regarding your change of heart on hoping to see JR succeed? You’ve been pretty hard on him in the past. Sometimes I think you say things for effect/shock value. I couldn’t tell if that was all tongue-in-cheek.
February 8th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
Karlos Dansby. That would be interesting. That guy is a beast. Is he unrestricted? I believe AZ has franchised him before. Maybe that is where the Pendergast connection could come in handy. He would probably be tough to pry away from AZ, but that would be awesome.
February 8th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Buckeyeraider:
Bob said earlier he was tokin. May have fallen asleep on the keyboard. Surprised we didn’t get a reply that said, “HJ:KLGHIJJYYRU(OOGHJKJDXBNLMDJOHODHJKOPHJ:CHPSDJUOFCBJKDCHUPKDHUJIODGHUJKOCHBJKPHIOP:ODUHIP”
February 8th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
LOL
February 8th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
roflmao
February 8th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
vegas raider Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
I really like idea of Spikes or McClain in round 1.
Go the FA route for a DT and maybe draft one in the 3rd or 4th.”
Vegas
Good to see you coming around on Spikes, I know that you are a McClain guy. I would be so psyched to get either one, but Spikes has been my dude for a while and I am sticking with him.
February 8th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
BuckeyeRaider
Bobbo was serious, he is on the JaMarcus bandwagon.
February 8th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
Dead serious.
February 8th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
I’m actually hoping that our MLB is already on our roster. Having someone come in and learn our defense, there’s going to be a learning curve.
OL at #8 man!
February 8th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
brian may disown me,..but hey, I saw the future.
February 8th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Either Iupati or Bulaga at 8!
February 8th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
What’s this Bob?
What, you don’t think he’s going to get cut?
February 8th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
I’m glad to hear it. The Raider Nation should not eat it’s own. The Run D can be improved along with the O-line, but without improved play at QB it’s all for naught. Russell can be as good as he wants to be. He has the potential, but he has to want it and be willing to work at it. Maybe then, instead of being the Black Ryan Leaf, he can become the Black John Elway.
Good night Raider Nation.
February 8th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Nope,..hes going to blow our minds,..start pro bowl. Word.
February 8th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Preist will be glad to hear you say that.
February 8th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
Start the pro bowl?
Not just make it, but start?
Lofty!
February 8th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
So he might have equalled Kelly’s tackle production…wooooooohoooooooooo
so what?
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So what? The guy we picked = CFL benchwarmer production
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Hey, YOU and %95 of the Raiders would have to work out and train to make a roster in the CFL…word…period.
February 8th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
SinceFrankYouellField Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Anyone know where that, “Who Dat” crap came from, anyway? Only time I recall ever hearing it was in a silly (but fun) Adam Sandler movie, “The Waterboy”. QB gets bell rung, someone swipes a smelling salts syrette under his nose. He wakes up and, with eyes rolling, says, “Who dat”. Is THAT it ???!!!
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People asked “Whos in the playoffs?” The Saints. “Who Dat?” they became the “Who Dat” Nation. ugh…
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That makes 2 more people with zero credibility in football conversations.
February 8th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Actually Im wrong,..he wont be starting probowl,..due to Superbowl obligations. Word.
February 8th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Sorry, RDT. Methinks the two of us were just having fun. Shame you take yourself and your “football conversations” too seriously. Lighten up.
February 8th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
NBob, to much smoke bro….BRL is garbage…
February 8th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
BRL and superbowl??? Thats impossible…
February 8th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
vegas raider Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
SnB,
Your giving me the Bruce Gradkowski argument for our defense, lol.
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No, I am not suggesting the Raiders sign a journeyman linebacker that’s been cut by 3 bad teams in his short 4 years. Nope, would never suggest something that poor.
I would go after Barrett Ruud with Tampa Bay or Karlos Dansby with Arizona…DeMeco Ryan….I am making a BIG contract offer for one of those three.
The Raiders are HORRIBLE at developing talent. MLB is a complex position. I don’t trust the Raiders with players at positions like this. So go get someone that ALREADY knows how to play the position at a high level and is a leader on their team.
Get me a big kid to plug the middle on the line in the draft.
^^^^^^^^^
I wouldn’t mind signing Dansby, Ryans, or Rudd…..but what is the probability of the old man actually getting it done and signing the right MLB?
Not good…..
February 8th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
NBob, you ok??? That bluberry has got you going…
February 8th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Im keepin it real man,..not just the smoke n pills,….Im tellin ya,…and my spies down in spring training say hes bustin his tail man…this blueberry is some killer shyt,..but,..Russell is going to blow the minds of mother f`rs like me,..espn…nfl net…all of them…brian aint ready to climb on board,…but Iv seen the future,..and with me now in row 1 in 2010,…thats it,..all the way. Word.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
OK MBob, humour mr what exactly did u see???
February 8th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Norco Bob Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
I did hear barkely saying russell was in AZ workin out, when he was being laughed at on that nba game the other night.
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hasn’t the white part of Barkley got his a$$ kicked off network TV yet for domestic violence Bob?
February 8th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
My bad NBob…
February 8th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
I dont recall charles ever being accused of domestic violence.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
So he might have equalled Kelly’s tackle production…wooooooohoooooooooo
so what?
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So what? The guy we picked = CFL benchwarmer production
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Hey, YOU and %95 of the Raiders would have to work out and train to make a roster in the CFL…word…period.
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Weak.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
SinceFrankYouellField Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Sorry, RDT. Methinks the two of us were just having fun. Shame you take yourself and your “football conversations” too seriously. Lighten up.
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OK new cool guy, my bad. Let me know when I can rise up to your standards, Francis!
February 8th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Ok,..I saw Russell showin up to Napa, and nobody recognized him,…and he had a pissed off look in his face,…first thing he did was throw his helmet at all his receivers, tried to pick a fight,..asked them if they was going to bother to catch the f`n ball this year,..he was hot,..lean and mean,..said if any of you mother f`rs get in his way of the superbowl he was goin to beat the dogshyt out of them…word.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
ever play organized football Bo? Canada or USA, above High School?
February 8th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
NBob, since you like to gamble throw some coin down on your futristic vision…
I am willing to bet you a C note we dont go better than 6-10 with BRL as qb…
February 8th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Norco Bob Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Ok,..I saw Russell showin up to Napa, and nobody recognized him,…and he had a pissed off look in his face,…first thing he did was throw his helmet at all his receivers, tried to pick a fight,..asked them if they was going to bother to catch the f`n ball this year,..he was hot,..lean and mean,..said if any of you mother f`rs get in his way of the superbowl he was goin to beat the dogshyt out of them…word.”
Bobstradamus is in the house!
word
February 8th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Norco Bob is lobbying to be BRL’s new agent.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Sorry thec,..a c-note?…thats alot of bread for a poor man like me.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Bob
Ellis got screwed out of a spot on the All Star team yes or no?
February 8th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
The A`s second baseman?
February 8th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
NBob, OK forget the c note, what is our record going to be 2010-2011?
February 8th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
NBob’s comp has been repo’d following his bunk 56.5 “lock” over bid. Some kid hs it at the casino, postin BS…
February 8th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
The 2010 season?…13-3
February 8th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
Yes Mark Ellis! No Ellis of Ellis Dodge and Chevrolet!
Actually I was referring to Monta Ellis. You must be a King’s fan…
February 8th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Ya I lost that dang over bet,..Colts should have scored 42,..bastards,…I lost 40 bucks.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
More like bluberry Bob…. King of the one liners is losing it on the bluberry… NBob, you will be ok, just get back to the normal stuff like the norcos, and vino…
February 8th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
Nope,..I go to about 20 Warrior games a year. And no Mark didnt get screwed,..Bailey went,..they need pitching more in all star games,..in case of extra innings.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
I quit vino a year ago. Got sick of it at the Moody Blues gig,..almost died,..no more wine for me.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Sorry man, I dont come in here for one liners, for your entertainment…go to a comedy club dude,…Im here keepin it real, I dont know what the F youre here for. Im in row 1 now man, thats all the Raiders needed to get over the hump. Word.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
13-3, Wonder what the odds are in vegas Raiders going 13-3? Irrelevate cause that wont happen this year…
February 8th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Mark Ellis, when healthy, is arguably one of the best defensive second basemen in the majors. Also when Mariano Rivera was asked who would pick up the torch as the best reliever in baseball after he retires one of the guys he mentioned was Daily Bailey. Rookie of the Year 2009.
But wait, what about Monta Ellis?
February 8th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Man, I am hear to talk Raiders, and read what my brothers post. The arguments, disagreements, and good football talk. I get the comedy right here on this blog as some of the post are hillarrious…
February 8th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Should have kept Baron and traded Ellis.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
OK NBob, Your vision aside, what are the spies saying?
February 8th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
Trade DMAC to get Bob’s laptop out of hock!
February 8th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Baron wanted out, back to socal…
February 8th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
FREE DIRTY!
February 8th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
The spies told me 2 is bustin his tail,..I will be down there in a month,..Im unsure how long hes down there,…if he is there I will tell him to come do the Raider leap in row 1,..I will be there. Word.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Baron aka The Beard hasn’t done squat since he left. Meanwhile Ellis is averaging 26.2 points a game this season.
What the W’s need is a big man or two that command attention and present a low post threat of some kind.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Baron is into cash,..Clippers offered the most…period.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Warriors had a great thing going, could have tweaked it and gone even further, maybe all the way,..but they couldnt handle success, and blew it up. Losers.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Thec & Bobstradamus
Check out this picture that was taken of Baron Davis celebrating after he first joined the Clippers.
http://sfist.com/attachments/sfist_jon/2226282502_40b21c5c18.jpg
February 8th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Word? Weak.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Is BRL working with any WR’s???
February 8th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
No team WILL EVER WIN THE NBA CHAMPIONSHIP playing small ball. Yes they beat Dallas in the first round that year but only because Nellie knew how to beat his old team playing small ball. As soon as the W’s ran into Utah, a team that has big men and plays defense, the W’s were finished.
They need a banger down low, seems like they always have!
February 8th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
My spies told me its not football drills,…hes losing weight,…conditioning stuff….workin out.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Big man?…I see Clifford Ray at every Raider game,..east side club…he da man.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
So in your vision did you see him throwin passes?
February 8th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
OK Clifford Ray. So they have needed a big man since 1982!
February 8th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Period…word…period
DMAC…weak…fumble…word…period
Trade DMAC…period…word
February 8th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Yes of course that was part of my vision,…him throwin passes,..but these passes will be caught,..not like 2009.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Bo, you need to get high.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Norco Bob Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Bo, you need to get high
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Done…period…word
February 8th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Wonder how much money could be won betting the raiders go 13-3? Got to be some high odds for that impossibility…70 to 1..
February 8th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Im heading to Mt Bleu in a week to put some cash on the A`s to win WS,..I do that every year,…huge odds,..minimal bet,..when there I will put cash on Raiders to win SB.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
And I skip that weak ass Arcata dirt…
February 8th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
I am out been fun..
February 8th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Ya right Bo,..Humboldt Country grass has a horrible rep doesnt it? lol.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
Arcata = asspiratenorthHQ.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
Never accept weed from someone who calls it grass.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Lol,..I never offered you any bud.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
It doesn’t matter WHERE it’s grown, it matters HOW it’s grown. Ever hear of Afghani?
Grass man yeah. Can someone score me a lid?
February 8th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
I guess not
February 8th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
O loves the Grass!
February 8th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
Norco,
You guys have dome good Sophia up there. One of my favorites.
February 8th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
Some*
February 8th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
Dogg,
It does matter where you grow, but not when people put all that crap in the plants. Tropical areas are great for outdoor, and Alaska is the best place to grow indoor.
February 8th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
The water and soil are perfect for growing in Alaska, but the weather is not perfect. That’s why you use the air, water, and soul indoor ( green house).
No lights, ACs, C02 sensors, or any of this crap. All natural!
February 8th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
Soil*
February 8th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Norco Bob Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
I quit vino a year ago. Got sick of it at the Moody Blues gig,..almost died,..no more wine for me
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“Almost”
February 8th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Raider O Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
The water and soil are perfect for growing in Alaska, but the weather is not perfect. That’s why you use the air, water, and soul indoor ( green house).
No lights, ACs, C02 sensors, or any of this crap. All natural!
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Prefer indo.
February 8th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Have you tried Alaskan strains?
February 8th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Nnamdi,
Try Alaskan Ice ( green house), and Matanuska Tundra outdoor.
February 8th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Best of 2009, a highlight for the true Raider fans, Raiders will be back. Its an honor to watch this youtube highlight, its treat for tomorrow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLmSlsmlT4g
February 8th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Ice Cube droping like its hot
February 8th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Hey Jerry!! thanks for this report as Coach Wooden once said don’t mistake activity with acheivement. Where is your reportage on Russell being in AZ working out? Your buddy Cam Inman drove everyone crazy when he went Vegas yet nothing on AZ!?
Come on man…….it’s only news when it’s negative about Russell? You guy’s are a joke….the whole lot of ya’
Pendergast looks at least from this stnadpoint to be a decent signing so hopefully it helps. I’m anticipating the combine being somewhat interesting. Then the minicamp.
February 8th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
Priesttj
watch the YouTube highlight by TrueRaider. Thanks trueraider that highlight got it in mood like I was in the field watching Raiders wining. It’s like an extacy feeling watching your team drive an score. Man I hope we start wining hate losing and I hate watching meaningless games
February 8th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
Raider O Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Nnamdi,
Try Alaskan Ice ( green house), and Matanuska Tundra outdoor.
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Had Alaskan Thunder f**k years ago and it was very very good but just can’t get it round here no mo’. Cali strains alot. Super Silver strains, like SSD, but not like it used to be round he yah.
Used to get er’very thing you could imagine…
Now its alot of Sensy. I fell ripped off with sensy. Dated and second tier IMO.
Prefer the power plants and indo baby simply cuz the out doe is just too hard to get here in proper potency and quantity.
BTW, someones going to make bank by opening the first chain. McDonalds of pawt.
February 8th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
No worries. I think Gradkowitzki final TD against the Steelers is the best play for 2009.
February 8th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
Everyone this is must see highlights for the Raiders. Best songs and best plays. DHB reverse, DMAC slant play, Murphy catches, Bush runs, Jamarcus TD, Gradkowitzki big plays, Frye scrimmage, best defensive plays. Must see everyone plus enjoy the music. Best Fans, one nation, Raider Nation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLmSlsmlT4g
February 8th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Post#264 SnB What the hell is wrong with you man?
Rebuilding. Sure I get that. But the real reason for this perpetual rebuilding are the stupid draft picks this team has made over the years. Only Janikowski, Lechler and Fargas are active players drafted/acquired before 2003. All those drafts from 1996 on totally disappeared and were irrelevant.
How long do you think players last in this league? 20 years? Get a freakin clue will ya’ If a team has more than 5 players from 2003 I’d like to see which team that is. Very few teams keep the same talent more than 4 years especially in this time of FA.
February 8th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
great vids trueraider hopefully we can get more wins next season. i really believe we will end our slide. there is no way al davis will let this continue.
February 8th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
Raiders4eve,
If the Saints winning the SB doesn’t give you hope I’m not sure what will. I hate to take it to that level. But no one hates losing more than I except maybe Mr Davis. I’ll take a look at it later. Thanks!
February 8th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
i cant wait for FA to start. that will dictate how our draft will head. its speculation now but when we sign some guys we might go for best player available over need. i still believe de is a need cuz we have to get a quicker pass rush. also jerry only likes to report bullsh!t on the raiders. the local media would hate for anyone to get the idea that russell is preparing himself for next year. lets just hope it leads to bugger things for him and us.
February 8th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
some people want mcclain but i like spikes cuz of his nastiness. the dude is a complete azzhole and i love it! we need players with a physically intimidating nature in their game. this really should be an all physical draft as well as some tough minded guys who dont fukk around. i wont lie i want some cheap shot artists here.
February 8th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Worst plays of the season with AL saying we will be back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apsjDl33JgQ&NR=1
February 8th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
“i really believe we will end our slide. there is no way al davis will let this continue.”
I always thought the same thing myself, but SEVEN YEARS NOW???
I thought after 2 or even 3 yrs. of horrific losing Al would get it back on track, but now??? I don’t know. My faith has been severely shaken.
To say there is “no way” Al will let this continue, is wishful thinking. Wouldn’t you think Al would have done something to stop this 4 or 5 yr. ago if he COULD? Al may not WANT to lose badly for an eighth straight season, but what gives you ANY real faith that he will? Believe me, I would love to see it, but after 7 flippin years of this, I don’t know that he CAN do anything. Help!!!
February 8th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
Armond, what’s up man? cheap shot artist? lol I got nothing against physical and nasty but we gotta become good again to get great. Last year at times we were good but it was very inconsistent. When we can became good on a consistent basis then occasionally great the next step is much easier.
As far as Russell is concerned he better be doing what I keep hearing he’s doing and I’ve been hearing that since very late in the season. That’s why the end of year crap didn’t bother me. Because he was excused ahead of time. The HC said as much but no one cared about that it was just let’s pile on the fat guy. It never stops.
But it really bothers me that the local media hasn’t shown any concern at all wether that’s true or not. But they jumped his ass when he went to Vegas on a prearranged vacation prior to going to AZ to start the offseason. all he missed was the endof season meeting which was planed after he made his arrangement for vegas. Jerry knows this yet he has never reported it that way.
But I’m really looking forward to the offseason. there was nothing to prepare me for what happened last year, that was extremely difficult to go through.
February 8th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
Hey Djohnnyj, i have a question for you, what the hell do you think Mr Davis is doing walking around enjoying the scenery?
You guy’s really blow my mind with comments like that. Do you really believe Mr Davis isn’t doing everything he knows?
February 8th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
TJ,..I saw the future,..and Im calling Gary about it, first thing in the morning,Russell, all the way…word.
February 8th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
hey priest i didnt say we would be great at anything just the video was great to see. yeah i agree with all that getting good stuff first. the media proves how much they hate this team with the biased reporting and that punk cam inman is the worst. i dont even watch comcast except when papa is on. its so sf biased.
February 8th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
Hire the GM,its the one glaring need for the front office,been 7 yrs since Bruce Allen played that role,since then,SEVEN YEARS of LOSING,please get the GM on board,see if things change for the better.RAIDERS!!!!!
February 8th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
My spring taining spies in the desert,..told me,..Russell,…lookout man,…Raiders all the way in 2010,…and I will witness it from my new row 1 seats. Word.
February 8th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
Anyone who says MR Davis doesnt care watch this clip and pause in 4:53 and see Mr. Davis eyes. The guy cares but he knows he messed up trusting Jamarcus, now its going to be open competition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apsjDl33JgQ&NR=1
February 8th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
Enough of this hire a GM shyt,..how stupid…are you not aware that as long as al davis is still alive, a gm will only be allowed to do as al davis wishes,…so stop with the gm shyt,…its plain stupid.
February 8th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
johnny i do believe al davis will make the right moves to accelerate the growth of this team. as much as i wanted cable gone it looks like he will stay and the hiring of jackson and pendergast were good moves. its about having the right coaches to reach these guys and having a plan that fits what u want. we might be more of a PA power run team that can spread u out type of offense instead of this scatter brained everything stuuf we pulled last season. i also believe we may be able to attract some more quality veterans like seymour and ellis. i liked cables aggressive coaching but not all of his play calling. i like the fact he will go for it on 4th down unlike gruden.
February 8th, 2010 at 11:50 pm
Norco Bob,
Yeah right uh huh! evrybody else can buy into your crap but as far as I’m concerned, shut the hell up already!
February 8th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
Youre right,robert,lets stay the course,its worked wonders over the last SEVEN years,Als got it under control,correct! WRONG,and norco,you are as well,hire the GM, cant get any worse,PERIOD
February 8th, 2010 at 11:56 pm
TJ,..listen to me tomorrow on Garys show…and come say hi to me in row 1. Word.
February 8th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
Davis would take advice from his GM about as much as he would the janitor,..get off the hiring a GM,..its just stupid,…actually Gilbert, you are stupid. Word.
February 9th, 2010 at 12:01 am
Armond,
I firmly believe eventually they will get it turned around. I want to see what kind of draft and FA moves they make and that will get my jiuces flowing. Right now I’m more pissed off than anything. I just don’t whine about it like most of these guy’s. But they damn well better fix that Oline and get better at MLB or I’m going on the attack for real.
I couldn’t have been more pissed off when DHB was drafted rather than fix the Oline. I like the pick of Mitchell expecially after Reyrey was stolen from us. The rest of the draft I can’t argue. But to pass on Oher and Monroe was insane IMO. Even if we get Oher this is a much better line. I understand what they were trying to do with the DHB pick but we could’ve done it much later. I do however feel that DHB will soon pay off but we got our ass handed to us last year with that bad Oline.
February 9th, 2010 at 12:03 am
Sorry,robert,SFBs,I will stay the course until Al gets the GM,something HE himself brought up,stup. Word.
February 9th, 2010 at 12:06 am
Norco Bob,
Yes he does listen to people he hires he always has. he just makes the final decision. But that decision can be heavily enfluenced by someone else and in many cases it is. Otherwise I believe we would’ve drafted on the line last year. Sire I think he wanted DHB but if Cable didn’t sell him on the idea that he could fix the line with this crap players he would’ve had no choice but to go Oline.
February 9th, 2010 at 12:12 am
Armond
A lot of people think Mr Davis doesn’t know how important the Oline is but they are sadly mistaken. He knows more than anyone else that the least SB run was due to the fact that we had a dominant Oline. As good as the skill players were that hallmark of that team was the Oline. IMO we lost the SB when Barret Robbins went AWOL. Mr Davis would concur IMO.
February 9th, 2010 at 12:20 am
Nite trolls,moron on,OUT!
February 9th, 2010 at 12:41 am
yeah priest i dont buy that oline crap either. this is the same man who drafted otto shell and upshaw not to mention other great lineman but he somehow doesnt think thats important.u think he didnt notice how that line handicapped this offense as much as russell did? he has no excuse but to build the lines. im sayin we will make the playoffs this coming season, u heard it here first. we need guidance and for some of these young guys like russ dmc bush chaz an so on to come up and i believe that will happen. get that oline fixed and a few tweaks and we will get back to the postseason.
February 9th, 2010 at 1:40 am
TrueRaider Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
Anyone who says MR Davis doesnt care
………………
Who said al doesn’t care?
My dog cares when he’s chasing his tail. Doesn’t mean he’s going to catch it.
February 9th, 2010 at 3:52 am
Norco Bob, Blueberry has been around a long time, a fragrant Sativa. DJShort brought back the strain, available in seed from Blue Sky Cafe, Oaksterdam. My favorite “Blue” is BlueDot, which was euphoric, and slightly electric. You could smoke it all day, unlike the Kush.
February 9th, 2010 at 3:59 am
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February 9th, 2010 at 4:43 am
Morning Nation!
Norco Bob….there is a waay better strain than ever B4.It’s called Fruity Juice from Sensi Seed’s!
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Type : Indica / Sativa
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Flowering Time : Medium Outdoor Harvest : end of October
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Well grown Fruity Juice buds are slick with gummy resin and exude a unique yet strangely familiar sugared flavour that must be smoked to be believed. Aside from the obvious flavour-comparison, the best description of Fruity Juice’s exquisite bouquet we’ve heard is “tropical charas”. Fruity Juice has a sweet fruity aroma when growing and when smoked leaves you in a dreamy, uplifting high. Her cannabis seeds flower between 50-60 days and in greenhouse flowering is end of October
February 9th, 2010 at 5:14 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Mike Singletary wasn’t the biggest guy either….but then again, having the Refrigerator up front certainly helps.
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Dan Hampton and Richard Dent helped.Seymour kinda remimds me of Dent,who I think was the best RDE I’ve seen
February 9th, 2010 at 5:45 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
4eva…How was Super Bowl Sunday for you?
February 9th, 2010 at 5:48 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,4EVA,HWNRDR.O,K..NOW WHAT DO WE DO ?
February 9th, 2010 at 5:55 am
Well, we can enjoy our coffee…then…I give up! Any thoughts on this offseason, Dirt Lot, 4eva?
February 9th, 2010 at 6:00 am
WHEN IS THE COMBINE ? LATER IN FEB.I THINK..BASEBALL WILL BE HERE SOON 2 HELP PASS THE TIME.
February 9th, 2010 at 6:04 am
You don’t watch basketball? But you’re right, I don’t really follow that until after baseball starts in April…
February 9th, 2010 at 6:10 am
DONT KNOW WHY I NEVER GOT INTERESTED IN HOOPS,DO NOT DISLIKE THE NBA OR COLLAGE BASKETBALL,JUST NEVER FOLLOWED IT.
February 9th, 2010 at 6:11 am
Sunday was good 4me Hwnrdr….Now the blog goes into hyper-drive until something happens
February 9th, 2010 at 6:18 am
Yup…was it last year that Jerry left us hanging for about 2 weeks with over 3000 posts? Haha!
February 9th, 2010 at 6:18 am
4EVA R U STILL SWEEPING UP THE HAIR,TEETH & EYEBALL’S FROM YOUR PARTY ON SUNDAY ? CLEAN-UP IS ALWAY’S THE WORST..
February 9th, 2010 at 6:24 am
Well, I hope that Al resigns Seymour, and Jano…do something with Capt. Kirk and really get someone nasty on both lines!!! Then draft someone suited to stop the FN run!!!
February 9th, 2010 at 6:28 am
Didnt party to hard Dirt-Lot.But I always clean as I go….Like every trip to the fridge we take the emptys out so there really much at the end
February 9th, 2010 at 6:33 am
*isnt
February 9th, 2010 at 6:42 am
That’s the way to do it…I had to teach my wife…clean as we cook! If other pots or pans are needed for the dish or meal…as soon as the pot or pan becomes emtied…wash it and put it away. Way better than having a stack of dishes at the end of the night!!!
February 9th, 2010 at 6:50 am
Good morning everyone.
February 9th, 2010 at 6:50 am
DEPEND’S ON HOW DRUNK U ARE,WASH THE DISH’S,PUT THEM IN THE GARAGE OR THE HALL CLOSET,U SPEND THE NEXT WEEK FIGURING OUT WHAT U DID WITH STUFF WHEN U CANT FIND IT….
February 9th, 2010 at 6:52 am
How many days till September ?
February 9th, 2010 at 6:57 am
About 200…geez…just saying that made me out of breath…
February 9th, 2010 at 7:00 am
6.3 moons Neilb!
February 9th, 2010 at 7:01 am
Kinda depressing really……
February 9th, 2010 at 7:02 am
Like it 4eva!!! much better way of looking at it!
February 9th, 2010 at 7:15 am
Neilb….IMO man has stretched himself way to thin with hie emphasis on micro-managing TIME.If man was to attune himself with natures clock,i.e. the MOON,man would be physiologically more at ease
February 9th, 2010 at 7:18 am
You’ve got my vote 4eva.
February 9th, 2010 at 7:18 am
and psychologically
February 9th, 2010 at 7:19 am
February 9th, 2010 at 7:26 am
Morning Nation!
February 9th, 2010 at 7:27 am
Anyway,you’ve all got baseball and basketball.I’ve premiership football and then the world cup,with F1 mixed in.If I’m really desperate for sport…….cricket.
February 9th, 2010 at 7:27 am
Morning Bcz24!
February 9th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Trade DMAC for a cricket!
February 9th, 2010 at 7:31 am
Is everyone okay over there ? Been watching the reports of the snow storms,looks bad.
February 9th, 2010 at 7:33 am
Got about 8 inches here near Chicago, Neil. Still falling too. No biggie.
February 9th, 2010 at 7:36 am
Hey Neil. Who do you like this summer? Brazil? Spain?
February 9th, 2010 at 7:37 am
8 inches ?? This country would grind to a halt with that amount.
February 9th, 2010 at 7:39 am
Los Raiders De Don Rober…..
Both good bets.If Torres is fully fit then Spain to edge it.
February 9th, 2010 at 7:41 am
……..saying that,I had the Colts to win in a blow-out,so I’m as full of crap as the next bloke !!
February 9th, 2010 at 7:42 am
good morning AM crew!
February 9th, 2010 at 7:43 am
Morning Rockstar!
February 9th, 2010 at 7:45 am
we got 8 inches here last week BSJ. melted down quite a bit, but not completely
starting last night and into this afternoon they are calling for 2-5
no biggie. I love it
being from the Lodi/Stockton area it never snowed there once in the 23 years I lived there!
2 hours from the beach. 2 hours from the mountains
1 1/2 hours from Oakland
February 9th, 2010 at 7:49 am
I dont even give myself extra drive time for 8 inches. LOL, it is NOT rare to wake up and find 8-10 inches of lake effect snow here…
February 9th, 2010 at 7:49 am
LOL @ Hwnrdr teaching his wife in the kitchen!
February 9th, 2010 at 7:49 am
RRS, were you near Stockton when that wacko shot up the school? I went to a wedding there a few weeks after, and all the locals hung out and partied in a big cemetery in town. Weird.
February 9th, 2010 at 7:50 am
We’ve got a Stockton over here.It’s about 30 miles from where I live.It’s not a very nice place to live.People who live there get called “smog monsters”……kinda shows you what it’s like.
February 9th, 2010 at 7:52 am
Conan O’Br1en (before they cancelled his show) was making fun of the people in LA because when they have a hard rain everybody panics. it was hilarious!
here in MO i’m glad we don’t have the fires or mini quakes, but we have tornados instead!
February 9th, 2010 at 7:52 am
Good Morning Rockstar…
Hey I lived on my own before I got married…It was either learn how to cook, or go to McD’s every day…
I learned how to cook and clean!
But I know…her family believed in leavig everything out and the person that washes dishes had to wash everything…too much fn mess!!!
February 9th, 2010 at 7:54 am
BSJ, are you referring to the Cleveland Elementary School shooting in 1989?
February 9th, 2010 at 7:55 am
Yes, 1989. You were probably 5 years old. Nevermind.
February 9th, 2010 at 7:58 am
Rockstar….Conans a jerk to say that about heavy rain in southern calli.Where I used to live,La Canada/Flintridge had heavy rains and there were mud-slides that took out houses
February 9th, 2010 at 7:58 am
Hwnrdr, I’m not knockin you bro
I lived on my own too before marriage. well, with a roommate. then when my sis moved here to MO from college (seminary) she asked If I wanted to check out MO with her. so we shared a place too for about a year.
I can cook & clean. My wife is just MUCH better at it
My wife & I have a deal. she cooks and I wash the dishes. problem is when she cooks she uses every pot, pan & utensil in the kitchen! haha. I feel your pain.
February 9th, 2010 at 7:59 am
Yes, 1989. You were probably 5 years old. Nevermind.
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LOL. so no, I don’t remember it
February 9th, 2010 at 8:01 am
Seriously 4eva… dont take everything so literally. Conans joke was obvious hyperbole regarding how warmer climates treat precipitation. Nothing to get up in arms about. He was not making fun of people who lose everything in mudslides.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:01 am
It’s that time again.
Have a great Tuesday everyone.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:02 am
4eva, at least the mudslides missed the In N Out on Foothill!
February 9th, 2010 at 8:03 am
Hey Rockstar…I know you’re not…just had to answer…like your wife, my wife is much better at doing it too!
On that note…enjoy the day Nation!!!
February 9th, 2010 at 8:04 am
Have a good day Neilb!
Rockstar….when I had room-mates we did it this way.
The person who did the cooking,ALSO did the cleaning.That stopped all the bullsh!t
Needless to say no one EVER used all the pots and pans!
February 9th, 2010 at 8:04 am
My wife calls me a “glory cook.” If we have guests, or it is a weekend night, I do the cooking (she cleans). On weekdays, its all on her. I hate passing out on the couch and then having to wake up and do dishes
February 9th, 2010 at 8:05 am
4eva: there was a huge mud slide on I-40 a few months ago. took an extra 2 hours to get from Nashville, TN to Ashville, NC. amazing
February 9th, 2010 at 8:05 am
My cleaning lady does the dishes! Ahhh the bachelor life. LMAO
February 9th, 2010 at 8:07 am
Bo its been 20 years sinse I was there.I remember the Volkswagon Dealership on Foothill and the Jack-in the box
February 9th, 2010 at 8:09 am
the good part about washing the dishes, taking out the trash, paying the bills and cleaning the cat box is not having to cook, dust, vaccuum, make the bed or do the laundry
we both work full-time so I figure its only fair to contribute around the house.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:11 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 8:09 am
the good part about washing the dishes, taking out the trash, paying the bills and cleaning the cat box is not having to cook, dust, vaccuum, make the bed or do the laundry
we both work full-time so I figure its only fair to contribute around the house.
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I concur wholeheartedly with this uniquely lucid post from RRS. Some tasks are better suited to the wife or myself, but it all evens out in the end.
On that note, time to go fire up the snowblower…:)
February 9th, 2010 at 8:12 am
later BSJ.
I expect a Danny Southwick update when you return …
February 9th, 2010 at 8:13 am
Good morning to all my dear friends.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:14 am
Trade DMAC for a Southwick update!
February 9th, 2010 at 8:17 am
Maybe we could package up a deal and trade Dmac, Routt and Chokie Lee for a snowblower.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:18 am
Your organization’s Internet use policy restricts access to this web page at this time.
Reason:
The Websense category “Sports” is filtered.
URL:
http://dannysouthwick.com/
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NO!!!
February 9th, 2010 at 8:20 am
DannySouthwick.com
This site is down for maintenance. Please check back again soon.
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double NO!!!
February 9th, 2010 at 8:20 am
Wow. Look at how friendly everyone is in here these days. Haven’t posted or even read any posts for quite a while. It had gotten too racial, political, ridiculous, etc. (hope it still isn’t that way). So, we gonna take an OL or a DL in the first round?
February 9th, 2010 at 8:23 am
what is the franchise tag deadline?
Feb 25th?
February 9th, 2010 at 8:24 am
It had gotten too racial, political, ridiculous, etc. (hope it still isn’t that way).
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Just Win Baby: come back in 3 hours. completely different group of posters log in during that time, known as the “PM crew”
February 9th, 2010 at 8:26 am
At least AL is upgrading the coaching staff: Jackson,Wauffle and Pendergast all could replace Cable if the season starts to go sour.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:26 am
After being held to a career-low 2 1/2 sacks in 2007, the Panthers still offered to make Peppers the NFL’s highest-paid defensive player. Peppers on Tuesday provided conflicting reasons on why he rejected the contract.
“That deal was to make me the highest-paid defensive player, but slightly, very slightly,” Peppers said. “I didn’t really feel the sincerity behind that deal.”
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LOL. Julius Peppers is a real mystery…
February 9th, 2010 at 8:27 am
Just Win Baby: come back in 3 hours. completely different group of posters log in during that time, known as the “PM crew”
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Make that the PMS crew
February 9th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Peppers wants Peyton Manning money, and no defensive player will ever be worth that much.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:30 am
couldn’t agree more lynn.
Hue Jackson, Mike Waufle & Clancy Pendergast are all solid additions to the coaching staff.
However, I’m a little concerned about losing Hackett and/or Tollner. Also, what did Board & Washington do to lose thier jobs?
yet RB Coach Kelly Skipper, WR Coach Sanjay Lal & ST Coordinator John Fassel are all still employed?
February 9th, 2010 at 8:33 am
I don’t think the coaching staff is done being tweaked, So I’ll take a wait and see approach.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Special teams were a problem for sure. Especially the return game.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Board should be retained as Asst DL Coach or even DT’s Coach, as some teams have.
Tollner should be given Sanjay Lal’s job.
Hackett should stick as QB Coach.
Washington should keep the same role he held last season.
Pendergast should be given Willie Brown’s old job.
now hire a legit RB Coach!
too bad the Chiefs have Maurice Carthon…
February 9th, 2010 at 8:37 am
So, we gonna take an OL or a DL in the first round?
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JWB: That would be grand!
what players are you hoping for?
February 9th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Drafting in the 1st rnd is soooooo depressing lately.
Just Trade Baby
February 9th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Wannaberocker,..I found it hilarious you tried to say that Lodi/STockton had any good qualities at all,…it being somewhat close to other places does not make it a decent place to live. Sorry Holmes.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:42 am
Trade the 8th pick for wilfork, he and Seymour make a nice tandem. Word.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Trade BRL for a sack lunch…
February 9th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Just watched the YouTube video clip TrueRaider posted yesterday (Comment 418) showing the Raiders’ worst plays of 2009. No doubt – JaMarcus needs to work on conditioning, leadership, study (reading defenses, tendencies, etc.), pocket awareness, mechanics….God, what else. BUT – on every single one of those sacks except one….THEY WERE ON HIM IN LESS THAN TWO SECONDS!…..with pressure up the middle and from both sides. It’s not ALL JaMarcus’s fault. Raiders desperately need O-line improvement (players AND coaching). Coach Cable OBVIOUSLY spread himself too thin last year. Looks like he is breaking down responsibilities, and it should help.
If JR really IS working out this off-season and if he really HAS re-dedicated himself to striving for excellence, I am on board with NBob. BUT – Mr. Davis/Coach Cable – don’t just give him the job because he got paid – make him EARN the starting job. At this point, after 7 years of hell, WINNING has to take precedence. Let the best players play after pre-season.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:48 am
BRL is going into his 4th season. Just now decining that he needs to workout…WTF is that???
February 9th, 2010 at 8:48 am
BRL = A large waste, a dung heap….
February 9th, 2010 at 8:49 am
If you guys want to watch some cool youtuve clips,..check out this dude,..raidermiketherealist… good stuff.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:49 am
BRL should have figured the out the first day he was drafted….
February 9th, 2010 at 8:49 am
Better late then never thec.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:50 am
I found it hilarious you tried to say that Lodi/STockton had any good qualities at all,…it being somewhat close to other places does not make it a decent place to live. Sorry Holmes.
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Bobby: Stockton’s violent crime rate has now become California’s second highest, right after Oakland.
We thought being on Forbes “Most Miserable Cities” list was bad…until we became the number one city. That was bad.
When did I say it was peachy living there? I worked there and went to Delta for a while. Never said it was an awesome place to raise a family or anything. sheesh
February 9th, 2010 at 8:50 am
NBob, I have a hard time beleiving you Bro….
No way you can turn that fast man, you hate BRL…
February 9th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Thec,.,.I dont hate anyone, and especially nobody Iv never met,…sorry to disappoint you.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:53 am
NBob, Not dissapointed as i dont hate anyone either. I have a very strong dislike for BRL though. He going into year 4 of his contract and just figured out he needs to workout… WOW, really???
February 9th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Gradkowski is entering his 5th year in the nfl.#2 is entering his fourth and has more starts than Gradkowski….To me Grads is right on schedule at this point of his career.From where I’m standing,#2 is waay behind that
February 9th, 2010 at 8:55 am
NBob, You siad it yourself you called it when we drafted him, he had BUST written all over him. Nothings changed NBob… BRL is still the Black Ryan Leaf, and is still a huge bust….
February 9th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Iv seen the future,..its all good…you will see.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Grads > BRL and its not even close….
BRL just figured out last week he needs to workout…lol
February 9th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Brad Roll isn’t telling players to work out?
FIRE HIM NOW!
LOL
February 9th, 2010 at 8:57 am
NBob, I do respect you Bro so I will wait and see…
out
February 9th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Tell you what dude, come join me in row 1 for a game,..my treat,..Jamarcus will do the NEZ leap,…he will be 30 pounds lighter so we will be fine.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Yep we got lucky we got Grads when we did because from this point on he is going to be a 1st rate QB in this league,imo
February 9th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Iv seen the future,..and Gradkowski will not start a single game in 2010,..sorry,..and will you guys not call him Grads?…sounds dumb.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:06 am
Gradkowski will not start a single game in 2010
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LOL! this is why people who worship satan, barack and al are considered “delusional”
February 9th, 2010 at 9:07 am
I didnt say he shouldnt start, I said he wont.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Just Win Baby-RR says there is no political talk in the AM yet he constantly brings it up.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:11 am
from this point on he is going to be a 1st rate QB in this league
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I don’t see Gradkowski being a Top 10 QB in the league or even the AFC. especially not with this supporting cast. He may be good enough to win 8 games and that is considered significant progress IMO
February 9th, 2010 at 9:13 am
Lefty: I think you missed him by about an hour bro
February 9th, 2010 at 9:16 am
I didnt say he shouldnt start, I said he wont.
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so you admit Gradkowski is better than Russell, yet JR will start 16 games regardless?
that isn’t what happened last year. what makes this year any different?
February 9th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Q & A with Daniel Aaron Southwick
Q: Why did you choose Occidental?
A: School/football
Q: Favorite Movie:
A: Remember the Titans
Q: Favorite Music:
A: Acoustic guitar, folk
Q: Favorite Foods:
A: Steak and potatoes
Q: Favorite Sport:
A: Basketball
Q: Favorite Teams/Athletes:
A: Michael Jordan/ Joe Montana/ Tom Brady
Q: Favorite TV Shows:
A: Sportscenter
Q: Favorite Quote:
A: “If you thou canst believe all things are possible unto him that believeth.”
Q: Hobbies/ Special Talents:
A: Waterskiing
February 9th, 2010 at 9:20 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wB7zpk8OWg
February 9th, 2010 at 9:22 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Board should be retained as Asst DL Coach or even DT’s Coach, as some teams have.
Tollner should be given Sanjay Lal’s job.
Hackett should stick as QB Coach.
Washington should keep the same role he held last season.
Pendergast should be given Willie Brown’s old job.
now hire a legit RB Coach!
too bad the Chiefs have Maurice Carthon…
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Ted Tollner would be a better WR coach than Lal.
Lal should stay onboard as quality control coach on offense.
A new special teams coach and RB coach is needed on this team….badly!
February 9th, 2010 at 9:23 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 9:06 am
Gradkowski will not start a single game in 2010
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LOL! this is why people who worship satan, barack and al are considered “delusional”
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Satan?? You mean the Bush family?
February 9th, 2010 at 9:24 am
When knight, or the other clueless ones in here post about the raiders, its usually funny,..but when one of you attempt to know any thing about politics,..thats hilarious.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:26 am
BSJ: how do you think Dakota will feel that we already have the next Joe Montana in the fold?
Southwick was groomed by Tollner & Hackett last year. the intern took care of Cable’s dirty work (Hanson) and is given the credit for Bruce & Charlie’s improvement in Oakland.
start Danny boy!
February 9th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Q: Favorite Quote:
A: “If you thou canst believe all things are possible unto him that believeth.”
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How amazing is it that Danny Southwick’s favorite quote is from Barack Obama?
February 9th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Lal should stay onboard as quality control coach on offense.
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sure, why not?
Fassel, Skipper & Lal can fight for it.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:37 am
I think Danny Southwick was influenced by Jim Mora (Playoffs?) , Jack Kemp & Ben Affleck.
other Oxy alumni …
February 9th, 2010 at 9:39 am
LMAO @ BSJ
You must have some great strains.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:44 am
LOL. RRS has been researching…
February 9th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Strains? You mean ganja?
February 9th, 2010 at 9:45 am
SW workout clip.
Still LMAO
February 9th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Yes.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:49 am
BSJ: do you remember going to school with Kemp or Mora?
February 9th, 2010 at 9:51 am
O, I’m easy to please. Nothing exceptional here.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:52 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 9:49 am
BSJ: do you remember going to school with Kemp or Mora?
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No, but I’m sure they remember me.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:54 am
Nnamdi,
We should do it, and open a super store franchise.
We can call it Weed Depot! (I know Saint McGiver likes that name. LOL)
BTW, Matanuska tundra is Alaskan Thunderf..k.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:54 am
According to ESPN, McNabb may be coming to the AFC West, but not as a Raider. Donkeys are showing interest.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:55 am
I would cry if McNabb went to the Donkeys
February 9th, 2010 at 9:57 am
Don’t be modest. I be read your posts. lol
February 9th, 2010 at 9:59 am
I read your..*
February 9th, 2010 at 9:59 am
I would love McNabb in Denver…that loser couldnt even beat the Raiders last year. Word.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:05 am
Really Bob?
Are you sure Orton is better than McNabb?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:10 am
They both suck,..McNabb was at one time really good,..no longer though…hes done,..Denver would be a great place for him, from a Raider fans point of view.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Maybe Mc Nabb could give Jamarcus another pep talk .
February 9th, 2010 at 10:11 am
I would cry if McNabb went to the Donkeys
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Donovan is a great QB, but he would be a terrible system fit in Dungver …
plus McNabb’s targets there would be Royal, Gaffney, Stokley and TE Graham.
Marshall & Scheffler are FA’s – like Orton
February 9th, 2010 at 10:18 am
Orton: 3802 yards, 21 TD, 12 INT, 87 QB Rating, 62 comp percent, sacked 29 times. 3 fumbles (2 lost)
McNabb: 3553 yards, 22 TD, 10 INT, 93 QB Rating, 60 comp percent, sacked 35 times. 7 fumbles (2 lost)
McNabb also has 2 rushing TD’s. Orton is a statue
the two QB’s aren’t that different stats wise …
February 9th, 2010 at 10:21 am
McNabb can operate with more of the field than Orton can. Defenses know Orton has a noodle arm, so eventually they pack the first 20 yards and shut down the short game…can’t do that against McNabb.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:21 am
It was -7 here last nigh…my nut hair is still frozen…
February 9th, 2010 at 10:22 am
night
February 9th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Really Bob?
Are you sure Orton is better than McNabb?
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Luci,
Orton had more passing yards, a better completion percentage, took less sacks and fumbled fewer times
McNabb had more TD’s, fewer turnovers, a better QB Rating and he can take off n’ run (if need be)
February 9th, 2010 at 10:26 am
…and as Dakota points out, McNabb has a stronger arm
maybe the donks think bringing in Donovan would make Eddie Royal the next DeSean Jackson?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Strong arm is great but a frozen nutsack sucks real bad Dakota move to the Bay Area I promise the Libs won’t mess with you too much!
February 9th, 2010 at 10:33 am
Nut hair… lol. Who still has nut hair? Your scrotum snippers broken?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:34 am
An unrestricted free agent in the 2009 offseason, DeAngelo Hall agreed to a new six-year contract with the Redskins on February 27. The deal contained $23 million in guaranteed money and had a maximum value of $55 million.
59 tackles, 9 passes defensed, 4 INT’s and 1 fumble recovery
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In 2009, Chris Johnson signed a 4 year, $11.3 million dollar contract with the Oakland Raiders.
67 tackles, 18 passes defensed & 3 INT’s
February 9th, 2010 at 10:35 am
They paid 12 million more for 2 extra turnovers… Only the Redskins can make Als business decisions look sound.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:36 am
lol….no comment
February 9th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Watch Al blow a bunch of picks on Peppers.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:39 am
I can’t believe that SB beat out M*A*S*H!
Were the Aints that compelling?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:44 am
I don’t think the Panthers will tag him again Dakota.
if they didn’t find a trade partner they’d be on the hook for $20.1 million, plus another $1.5 million Pro Bowl bonus
you know he’s unhappy and he doesn’t want a long-term deal there. Is it worth 20+ million for 1 year of 10 sacks? then what if he gets hurt?
the Panthers aren’t a playoff team. they’d be wise to just let him walk IMO
no other team wants to make him the highest paid NFL player at 30 years old AND give up some high draft picks just to acquire him
February 9th, 2010 at 10:49 am
Jared Allen had 5 more sacks and was 5 years younger than Peppers when the Vikings traded for him.
the Vikings sent the Chiefs a first-round pick, two third-round picks and swapped sixth-round picks in the 2008 NFL Draft.
would the Panthers even get a 1st rounder out of the deal?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:50 am
the chefs got burned on that deal.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:52 am
The Patriots might trade our first or their first for Peppers…plus I think the Patriots have tons of other picks to sweeten the deal.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:53 am
that’d be like the Raiders sending the Broncos a first-round pick, two third-round picks and swapping sixth-round picks in the 2010 NFL Draft for Elvis Dumervil
I’m sure we’d all approve of that deal!
February 9th, 2010 at 10:54 am
what happens to the pick we traded in 2011 if there is a lock out?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Just for fun….IF Peppers was a FA and we signed him what does that do to Seymour? Could Seymour move to LDE or would he be moved inside or just let go?
I would want Seymour to stay and move to LDE, and have him move inside on obvious passing downs with Ellis coming in on 3rd downs….that would be quite a pass rush.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:57 am
Profootballtalk.com is reporting that Troy Smith is available for trade. I believe a third rounder will do it, I think Al should trade for him but then again AL hates weak armed QB lol
February 9th, 2010 at 10:58 am
The Patriots might trade our first or their first for Peppers…plus I think the Patriots have tons of other picks to sweeten the deal.
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UFA’s
Tully Banta-Cain OLB/DE
Derrick Burgess OLB/DE
Jarvis Green DE
Vince Wilfork NT
OLB Pierre Woods is a RFA.
plus OLB Adalius Thomas is in Bill Belichick’s doghouse. could be traded
February 9th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Couldn’t copy the desc. Think he can be had in round 4 and will be a very good CB. He can also return kicks.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=68035&draftyear=2010&genpos=CB
February 9th, 2010 at 11:04 am
Guess who gave Drew Brees a torn labrum in his right (throwing) shoulder and rotator cuff damage?
Gerard Warren.
Hit him while he was on the ground…
trade Warren for a bag of cheese puffs!
February 9th, 2010 at 11:04 am
SinceFrankYouellField Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Just watched the YouTube video clip TrueRaider posted yesterday (Comment 418) showing the Raiders’ worst plays of 2009. No doubt – JaMarcus needs to work on conditioning, leadership, study (reading defenses, tendencies, etc.), pocket awareness, mechanics….God, what else. BUT – on every single one of those sacks except one….THEY WERE ON HIM IN LESS THAN TWO SECONDS!
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This is exactly right! When I watch clip after clip after clip two things come to mind: lst off, whoever put that together has a LOT of time on their hands. 2ndly, I am seeing an offensive line that is just getting BEAT out there. Sad to say.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:07 am
how stupid does Miami feel for grabbing Daunte Culpepper instead?
Miami must love Nick Saban! LOL
February 9th, 2010 at 11:11 am
trade Russell, McFadden & Heyward-Bey to Detroit for Johnson, Cherilus & Stafford!
February 9th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Lynn from Snot Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 10:54 am
what happens to the pick we traded in 2011 if there is a lock out?
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That is a good question. I have read that the lockout will begin at the start of the free agency period in 2011…but that the draft could still be held. But what then happens to the 2012 draft if no games are played in 2011? Do the teams just pick where they picked in 2011, excluding traded picks of course like the one the Raiders sent to the Pats. So the Raiders would just pick in 2012 where they would have picked in 2011 but for the Patriots trade.
I have also read that they may just hold the draft in 2012 and have no 2011 draft and that the positions would simply be as they would have been in 2011. But that would mean the Raiders would be without a first round pick for essentially two years. Also, if they end up coming to an agreement and some games are played in 2011, how do you manage it?
My money is on the 2011 draft going forward…just seems easier that way.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:21 am
JaMarcus has lost weight!
found this pic of him working out in AZ:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xdYrDtLkeqI/Sxx4qDpvAuI/AAAAAAAAABE/_klhvpWJBto/s320/nfl-draft-party-fat-joe-jamarcus-russell.jpg
February 9th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Bob, was this a gift from you?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xdYrDtLkeqI/Sxx-FQMmLkI/AAAAAAAAABc/RTMstGEOCh0/s1600-h/jamarcus-russell-sweater.jpg
February 9th, 2010 at 11:24 am
big pimpin
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xdYrDtLkeqI/Sxx8oSn2nZI/AAAAAAAAABM/TRjwcQghPwQ/s1600-h/jamarcus.jpg
February 9th, 2010 at 11:24 am
money well spent, eh Mr Davis?
February 9th, 2010 at 11:25 am
I guess showing people your necklace is a cool and hip thing to do.
Hey everyone look at me I am a crime waiting to happen!
February 9th, 2010 at 11:25 am
those 3 pictures are the highlights of his first 3 NFL seasons in Oakland.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Excluding restricted free agents; pretty slim pickings for FA o-linemen:
Bobbie Williams, Cincinnati Bengals (33)
Kevin Mawae, Tennessee Titans (39)
Chad Clifton, Green Bay Packers (34)
Eugene Amano, Tennessee Titans (28)
Mike Brisiel, Houston Texans (27)
Mike Gandy, Arizona Cardinals (31)
Cornell Green, Oakland Raiders (34)
Rex Hadnot, Cleveland Browns (28)
Ben Hamilton, Denver Broncos (33)
Justin Hartwig, Pittsburgh Steelers (31)
Jon Jansen, Washington Redskins (34)
Nick Kaczur, New England Patriots (31)
Stephen Neal, New England Patriots (33)
Chester Pitts, Houston Texans (31)
Marshal Yanda, Baltimore Ravens (25)
February 9th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Nice list Dakota
Lets sign Cornell Green I heard he is pretty good with a mop handle!!
February 9th, 2010 at 11:31 am
Raiders4eve Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 10:57 am
Profootballtalk.com is reporting that Troy Smith is available for trade. I believe a third rounder will do it, I think Al should trade for him but then again AL hates weak armed QB lol
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The old man hates every player we as fans would love to see in silver and black.
He does the exact opposite of what fans want.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
What do you guys think of the idea of moving Trev Scott to OLB?
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OMG….dude he has already been moved there and it should be permanent.
He is most effective as a stand up OLB 80% of the time and the other 20% as the hybrid elephant as down rushing end.
Can you imagine if he would have been used as the elephant hybrid OLB from the beginning of the year?
He stats would have much through the roof!
He would be much like Clay Matthews.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:35 am
Yulia Tymoshenko = hottest politician on planet.
http://www.petergreenberg.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/yulia-tymoshenko.jpg
February 9th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Kevin Mawae is on of the best o lineman in the game, no way tennessee lets him go, same goes for the 3 guys in New England. No way Belichik lets them go.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:39 am
Chester Pitts & Mike Brisiel from the Texans have experience in the zbs. plus you know George Foster floats around each year in FA.
Marshal Yanda is pretty high on YoungAmerican’s wish list. I don’t know much about him…
Tom Cable will probably convince Al to give UFA’s Green & Walker fresh contracts and slap tenders on RFA’s Morris & Barnes …
then say to the media “the offensive line was obviously a high priority this offseason. i’m glad we’ve been able to address it and keep these quality players wearing silver & black. we expect big things this year. I think we’re going to compete for a playoff spot. we certainly have the talent”
February 9th, 2010 at 11:48 am
C’mon Al, snag T.Porter from the Saints and then over-pay him with an extension. It’s your duty son!
February 9th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Donte’ Stallworth …
who is for/against him coming to Oakland?
February 9th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
No more Donte’s of any sort or spelling.
February 9th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Screw Stallworth
Get Cribbs in here to rescue the special teams.
February 9th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
No more Donte’s of any sort or spelling.
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How about another Napolleon
February 9th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
If they have any game get them both…
Uncapped season spend, spend, spend….
February 9th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
RR, What up Brother? I like mike brisel best, plus he is one of the younger ones… Hope yanda wants to follow ue jackson, that would be a coup as well…
February 9th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Well, after researching every one of those younger FA o-linemen I noticed a few things.
First: there are no decent tackles available. Gandy is the only relatively young one, but he is a penalty machine and gives up way too many sacks.
Second: There are no decent young Centers. J. Hartwig gives up tons of sacks and he also may not even be a FA according to one report I read.
Third: The position that has the most talent in that FA pool is the G spot.
Based on that information I think we have to draft a tackle in round 1 or 2 and maybe a C in round 3 if there are any available.
In free agency I think we should target 6′2″ 320 lb Rex Hadnot to play RG. Most of the players on that list have had a recent major injury, but Hadnot came back and played well at the end of last season. In 2008 he started 15 games and only gave up 1.5 sacks and had 5 penalties. Cooper Carlisle gave up 4 sacks each of the last two years.
As backups I would like to see Marshall Yanda as backup plan #1 for RG and Pitts as backup plan #2. Brisiel suffered a major foot injury, but he might be worth looking into too.
The Ravens are very high on Yanda, some think he may move to RT to replace Oher who may move to LT next year, so it might be difficult to entice him away from Baltimore. Pitts had micro fracture surgery, so like Brisiel he has major injury concerns, but played very well in 2008 and 2009.
February 9th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Does stallworth still have a lot of game left? What would he really add, I dont mind the bagage, but can he contribute?
February 9th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
http://www.fantasysp.com/player/nfl/Kirk_Morrison/783093
Hmmmmmm
February 9th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
(Oooops, I don’t mean as backups, I mean as backup plans in case we can’t sign Hadnot…just to clarify)
As backups I would like to see Marshall Yanda as backup plan #1 for RG and Pitts as backup plan #2. Brisiel suffered a major foot injury, but he might be worth looking into too.
The Ravens are very high on Yanda, some think he may move to RT to replace Oher who may move to LT next year, so it might be difficult to entice him away from Baltimore. Pitts had micro fracture surgery, so like Brisiel he has major injury concerns, but played very well in 2008 and 2009.
February 9th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Trade DMAC for Napoleon Anyone!
February 9th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
I understood it the first time, cool analysis…
February 9th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Is receiver a need? Our luck we sign Stallworth and he looks great in preseason then blows out a knee.
February 9th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Dakota,
Would you trade DMAC for a quality O-lineman? How good would they have to be?
February 9th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Damn, I need to proof read before posting:
Correction:
The Ravens are very high on Yanda, some think he may move to RT to replace Oher who may move to LT next year, so it might be difficult to entice him away from Baltimore. Pitts had micro fracture surgery, so like Brisiel he has major injury concerns, but played very well in 2008 and (2007).
February 9th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
# Thec07 Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Does stallworth still have a lot of game left? What would he really add, I dont mind the bagage, but can he contribute?
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Absolutely NOT! You guys notice the teams that win now: Look at New Orleans. Drew Brees, Darren Sharper, Jon Vilma, Sean Payton, Will Smith, Sedrick Ellis. Look at the entire “Dungy-esqe” Colt team. These are ALL high character guys on that sideline. Total garbage POS players don’t win anymore. Ask Ask Denver. Or Washington.
February 9th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
I think I would rather wait another year to see what Schilens, Higgins, Heyward-Bey and Murphy can do.
Maybe give Watkins & Miller a shot at that 5th WR spot.
if these guys still can’t produce, go after Plaxico next offseason …
February 9th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Bo,
Yes, at this point I would trade McFadden for a good RT.
February 9th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Wow Romo to coach with Shannarat ??
February 9th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Dakota Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Bo,
Yes, at this point I would trade McFadden for a good RT.
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Nice to see that sanity has not eluded you entirely.
February 9th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
These are ALL high character guys on that sideline. Total garbage POS players don’t win anymore. Ask Ask Denver. Or Washington.
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go check out Charles Grant, Will Smith, Anthony Hargrove, Jeremy Shockey & Darren Sharper.
Shockey & Sharper might be alright now, but Shockey was a cancer in New York and Sharper was on the love boat with Culpepper, McKinnie, Smoot and Moe Williams in October 2005
February 9th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Rarely, if ever, do teams let quality offensive linemen just walk away. (See Barnes, Khalif or Harris, Kwame). What we need on this team, that Cable is trying desperately to bring in, are high quality, high motor guys. THAT’S what we need around here.
February 9th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Notice how I didn’t mention Shockey. Darren Sharper has always been a high quality guy and a fantastic player as well. He REALLY solidified that NO 2ndary.
February 9th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
I agree Seymour however what we need and what Al Davis supplies for us are two very different things!
February 9th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
I’m not denying that Sharper is a fantastic player or REALLY solidified that NO 2ndary…
he’s not 100 percent clean.
he’s not as high character as Warrick Dunn or Sam Williams
February 9th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
trade the walrus for Jamie Sharper!
February 9th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Trade JaMarcus for Adam Sandler
He played pretty good QB in a movie couldn’t do much worse than JaMarcus
February 9th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
All Sam Williams has is character. No doubt he is quite sincere and regretful when he misses all those tackles…
February 9th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
I’d like for every team in the league to run their team like the Raiders. No chain of command. No control. No cohesiveness. No chemistry. No system. No efficient gameplan. Then we’ll see just how many JaMarcus Russells there are in the league.
February 9th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Pendergast…wonder how many teams Al had to outbid to secure him!
February 9th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Awwwww, are you guys sad that the die hard Raider Bill Romanowski is flirting with a Washington job, under Mike Shannahan? Did any of you honestly believe that Russell’s sucking up to the Raider way on Comcast was really due to loyalty to the Raider nation, and not merely a job requirement? Wow. And to think some of you try to talk football in the same breath…
February 9th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Romanowski’s sucking up, not Russells. This is the only blog where I make these kinds of errors. It’s funny, but when you even start to talk about the Raiders, you lose brain cells…
February 9th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Hi ol buddy,..wanna get wasted today about 5:40?…Louie`s,..on Mather and hwy 50.
February 9th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
I never liked Romo,..always looked at him as a Bronco.
February 9th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
before Clancy Pendergast became a DC was coached LB’s in Dallas 1996-1999. DB’s in Dallas 2000-2002.
LB’s in Cleveland 2003.
“Pendergast helped develop first-round draft pick Roy Williams into a Pro Bowl safety.” – wiki
thats funny. Mike Mitchell already plays like SS Roy Williams. maybe he’ll teach MM the horse collar?
February 9th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
before Clancy Pendergast became a DC (he) coached LB’s in Dallas 1996-1999. DB’s in Dallas 2000-2002.
sorry – typo
he coached safety Darren Woodson for 3 years as well.
February 9th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
wannaberocker,..bfd,…F clancy…who cares.
February 9th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Oh man this really sucks, my friends told me to watch this movie Paul Blart Mall Cop, they said I remind them of him,….geez,…first they said I remind them of that dude in Sling Blade, the billy bob thornton character,..my friends suck.
February 9th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Maybe Tyvon Branch will become the next Dwayne Goodrich (2000-2002) ???
February 9th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Bob,
you remind me of Sacha Baron Cohen in the movie ‘Bruno’
February 9th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
I havent seen that one yet.
February 9th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Bob I have some sour diesel hash
February 9th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Smoke it then bro…I have some really good shyt myself…not hash, but great tops.
February 9th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
my favorite flavor!!
February 9th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Bob
You remind me of Sarah Palin.
February 9th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
The Sarah Palin with writing on her hand or without?
February 9th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
trade the walrus for Sarah Palin!
February 9th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
You remind me of my jeeeepp……
February 9th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
Hey, that biitch is hot,..thanks old man!…but sorry, Im not into old fat geezers. lol
February 9th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
You guys all make fun of Davis’ drafting but Tyvon Branch has played very well. And he was a fourth rounder. Shilens in the 7th, Mario Henderson in the 3rd, Zach in the 2nd, Bush in the 4th, Chris Johnson as a FA. If we could get another D lineman, a MLB, and some Olinemen, this team might have some promise.
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Ha! This is got to be one of the most hilarious, back-handed “compliments” I’ve ever read on this blog. Couldn’t have phrased it any better myself, Mr. Bush. Oh, well…there’s just the little thing about consistent quality of QB play, an experienced possession WR, more discipline, etc….
February 9th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
But since you brought it up old kell,..since you brought up who I remind you of,..your pic,..if you arent the identical twin for Aunt Esther,..lol…hahahaha. thanks for the laughs old fool kell.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Vegas
Did you see that idiotic speech from your girl Sarah?
February 9th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Al Davis hasn’t struck out with EVERY player on the roster or EVERY coach in the building.
just important ones like Cable, Russell, and just about every former donk he’s brought in (Carlisle, Green, Warren, Walker)
I guess even Ashley Lelie & Erik Pears could be added to that list…
February 9th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
I saw bits and pieces.
Not much has changed in her speeches from when she was campaigning to her today.
And I don’t like her on Fox, just not witty enough to hang with the best cable news network.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Old kell,..here you go again, jealous of people who are successful,…why cant you just relax, swallow the fact you are a failure, and not bag on others who arent?…it must be a terrible life for you,..old, fat, ugly,..mad, bitter, jealous…all you have the energy to do is to bag on successful people,…poor old fool kell. hahahahahahahaha!!!
February 9th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Lol.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
kell: i thought you liked white women?
February 9th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Hang in there old kell,..because the older you get, the more you will be even more unhappy and jealous,…your future old kell, scary.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Old kell, has one miserable day after the next, but each day gets worse,…its fun to watch his unhappiness grow though,..tomorrow will be a joy to see who he will bag on. hahahahahahaha!!!
February 9th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Palin is the best thing the libs have going right now. I wish she would just disappear.
STOP TALKING YOU PUTZ!!!!!
February 9th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Actually though, gotta give it to old fool kell,..his boobs are better then palins. hahahahahahaha!
February 9th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
lol,..however,…a fat old Aunt Esther lookalike,..not very appealing….ew. hahahahahaha!
February 9th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
Norco Bob Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
…if you arent the identical twin for Aunt Esther.
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Roll KK’s face in some dough and make a batch of gorilla cookies.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
Hey Krappy – you know what happened? I woke up this morning and it felt like a 5 pant crap day for you.
I don’t know if you’ve been sprinkling the ol Metamucil on your morning Cinnabons, or if you’ve been licking the cat again, but I hope KrappyWife had Pampers Plus laid out for you this am.
That is, before she ran out to sample wallpaper for your Swiss chalet.
So what’s it going to be first, you deranged old goat:
1) Cut & Pasting the Raiders win/loss record for the past 7 years
2) Cut & Pasting the ranking of Raiders front office
3) Cut & Pasting some lame article from Bleacher Report and then taking full credit for writing it
Hurry up and choose, Krap Krap – those Pampers won’t hold up forever!
February 9th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
vegas raider Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
And I don’t like her on Fox, just not witty enough to hang with the best cable news network.
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Fishin’ for an argument, and no bites.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Poor old fool kell,..tried to pop in with his own thoughts,..instead of his usual cut n paste from his googlie machine,..it kind of backfired didnt old man?…stick with others thoughts old man, then you wouldnt have to run out of the room embarrassed. hahahahahaha!!!
February 9th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Dakota Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Palin is the best thing the libs have going right now. I wish she would just disappear.
STOP TALKING YOU PUTZ!!!!!
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That AND John Boehner’s tan.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
It didn’t take long for Palin to sour. Her initial convention speech was great…then we got to know her.
Now, for the good of the party, she needs to get the foook out of the spotlight.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Lol kell!!!…oh boy!!!…great post!!!!
…um, try again old man.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Dakota
She’s become the Titular head of the Tea Party.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Dakota Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
It didn’t take long for Palin to sour. Her initial convention speech was great…then we got to know her.
Now, for the good of the party, she needs to get the foook out of the spotlight.
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Yeah, so the real Repub leaders can step up…who are they again?
February 9th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
BSJ,
Just wanted to rattle the cage a little
February 9th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Titular. LOL.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Anyone else here Dilfer on the Herd this morning?
He was talking about the Saints, and said the key to their offense is their C and 2 guards, and the pocket they create for Brees to step up in.
Interestingly, he than said that in a quick, shotgun passing attack like the Saints, the Tackles are way less important than their guards, and the tackles just need to get in the way, and made them seem pretty replaceable.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
old kell,..pretending to know anything about politics,..its not working for you…stick with pretending not to be jealous of al davis. lol
February 9th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Roll KK’s face in some dough and make a batch of gorilla cookies.
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LOL @ BSJ!
February 9th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Roll KK’s face in some dough and make a batch of gorilla cookies.
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LOL @ BSJ!
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LOL @ Redd Foxx. RIP.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Kell: you got pretty hot during that Betty White SB commercial, didn’t you?
February 9th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Please,..I know Gorilla Rilla quite well,..and those comparing that look with old kell,..big insult to gorilla rilla,..old kell, ew,..even me comparing him to aunt esther, its an insult to her. lol
February 9th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
Norco Bob Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
…if you arent the identical twin for Aunt Esther.
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Roll KK’s face in some dough and make a batch of gorilla cookies.
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WTF is up with this Bo? That is very inappropriate IMO.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
yeah. Sanford and Son was classic
Foxx was from Missouri, or as Kell calls the state “Podunk”
February 9th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
come on now, leave that old man alone,..hes old, ugly, fat,.has boobs,…and consumed with jealousy,…dont worry old kell, considering your age, its about over with soon, so at least you have that going for you!…cheer up!! hahahaha!
February 9th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
WTF is up with this Bo? That is very inappropriate IMO.
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LOL. Offends your tender sensitivities?
February 9th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
I said that in satire, like Limbaugh used “retard”. So its OK. Ask Sarah.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
BSJ: so you’re taking everything Limbaugh says as gospel?
what about his McNabb comments?
February 9th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
On July 2, 2008, Matt Drudge reported that Limbaugh signed a contract extension through 2016 that is worth over $400 million, breaking records for any broadcast.
wow
February 9th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Limbaugh played a song by Paul Shanklin entitled “Barack the Magic Negro”, sung to the tune of “Puff the Magic Dragon”.
LOL
February 9th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
I’ll bet KK is e-mailing Jerry right now to report Bo and Rockstar.
See you guys in a few weeks.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Sh!t, I’m banned.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Quittin time! Nanu nanu.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
LAS VEGAS (AP) Police say they found a lack of evidence that St. Louis Rams running back Steven Jackson beat a girlfriend who was nine months pregnant with the couple’s child at his Las Vegas home last year.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Dakota,
Jon Becker (the mod) is a cool guy. he knows all of our jokes are light hearted and sarcastic
he only zaps the offensive ones. BSJ and I contribute 1/100th of the BS that makes Jerry’s blog have so many posts each day
February 9th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
RENTON, Wash. (AP) The Seahawks’ new offensive coordinator says quarterback Matt Hasselbeck “has been incredible” learning his new system. He says running backs Julius Jones and Justin Forsett fit Seattle’s new offense well. And he declines to discuss Walter Jones’ status for 2010.
Jeremy Bates spoke Tuesday for the first time since arriving from Southern California last month.
Bates said he “won’t get into what route we’re going” at left tackle.
Seahawks executives have traded messages with the 36-year-old, six-time All-Pro, but they have yet to confirm what Jones’ plans are for 2010.
He missed all last season following two knee surgeries, but said last month he intended to test the knee in a spring minicamp.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
I got Norco Boob banned for saying the only good jew is a dead jew.
Now I’m probably banned.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Kell,..I was never banned. lol…sorry.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
so Pete Carroll got hired by Seattle exactly 1 month ago and they’ve been working as a staff (with players) ever since then?
Amazing.
the Raiders season ended Jan 3rd. I doubt anybody (staff or players) is required to work until OTA’s
February 9th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Norco Bob Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Kell,..I was never banned. lol…sorry.
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Liar.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Norco Bob Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Kell,..I was never banned. lol…sorry.
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Yes you were…for a time you couldn’t even write Norco in a post without it being moderated.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
So let me get this straight, Krappy – not only are you a deranged plagiarist, a senile old pant crapper, and an outspoken racist but you’re also a self-admitted tattletale as well?
Krappy, if we went to elementary school together I’d be whipping your sorry butt in tetherball during recess, stealing your sandwich and smearing your face with it during lunch, kicking the back of your chair during 5th period and giving you an after school whirly in the toilet after final bell.
Krappy, I want you to be honest with me – is there anything that you do that ISN’T totally despicable, unbelievably ignorant or just completely useless?
Signed,
You bud
Beeecham
February 9th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Lol,..was never banned,..and by the way, Jerry forwarded me an email you sent him old kell,..we got a good laugh out of it,..kind of oold to be crying to a sports writer arent ya old man?…lol
February 9th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
5pm in Podunk.
later gents!
February 9th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
# vegas raider Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Anyone else here Dilfer on the Herd this morning?
He was talking about the Saints, and said the key to their offense is their C and 2 guards, and the pocket they create for Brees to step up in.
Interestingly, he than said that in a quick, shotgun passing attack like the Saints, the Tackles are way less important than their guards, and the tackles just need to get in the way, and made them seem pretty replaceable.
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Of course we run a deep passing offense with deep go’s and deep seam routes. Tackles in that offense are imperative along with the Center and Guards. Man, it pains me to say that.
February 9th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
BTW, the next time one of you guys wants to bring some gun toting POS in here just keep saying to yourself Adam “Pacman” Jones, Adam “Pacman” Jones. He was an overall number 6 that makes our guys seem like future Hall of Famers.
February 9th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
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February 9th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Who’s the Raider Head Coach?
February 9th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Krappy, did you just wake up from your nap?
If so, make sure you hose off in the backyard. Don’t want those stinky diapers messing up your computer seat.
And get that freakin’ Hot Pocket out of the microwave before you blow your house up.
February 9th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
http://www.raiders.com/team/coaches.html
here you go
February 9th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Hey dumbaasss old kell,..Tom Cable,..lol,..senility has taken over old kells mind…lol…hahahaha
February 9th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
old man kell has sunk to a new low,..doesnt even know who the head coach is,..dang,…I hope Im not as lost when I hit my 60`s,..lol
February 9th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Who’s the Raider Head Coach?
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Forget that. The question you SHOULD be asking is what did I do with my false teeth?
February 9th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Krappy doesn’t take to kindly to cleanliness his bed pan is usually full at night, he has such a cantankerous personality that the nurses let him wallow in his own mess as long as possible.
That and his hemorrhoids have been swelling up the size of a lemon so he walks like he has a nutsack hanging from his butt checks.
I kind of feel sorry for the guy.
February 9th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
That’s funny because I’m sitting at my desk in the office, with my own teeth.
February 9th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Lol,..dude, we have seen the pic,..Aunt Esther…lol….hahahahaha!
February 9th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
http://www.afteryoublackedout.net/
February 9th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Doofus Boob
Hey dirtbag. You couldn’t carry my jock.
http://www.move2alameda.com/about.html
February 9th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Ricky Bobby,
You are a pill popper, and your are making fun of people’s mental abilities!?
You are LOST.
February 9th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/images/reviews/190/1228130466_1.jpg
February 9th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/123234/AL-DAVIS.jpg
February 9th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Carry your jock?…you mean bra?…hahahaha!
February 9th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Dang, old Al is still better looking that old kell!!…hahahaha!
February 9th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Not only is old al better looking then fat old kell, hes a billionaire,..while old kell is “in his office”,…lmao…hahahahaha!
February 9th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Dang,..even these pills and grass dont help that pic of you old kell,…me saying you look like Aunt Esther,..I feel bad,..my apologies to Lawanda Page…sorry babe.
February 9th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Doofus Boob.
Al Davis a billionaire??????
Wtf do you know about money?
February 9th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
February 9th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Now now old kell,..dont be a sore head,…dont let that jealousy of Old Al get to you,..again. lol
February 9th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
Doofus Boob
You ever been on an African Safari?
http://www.move2alameda.com/about.html
February 9th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Doofus Boob
Do you own any property?
http://www.move2alameda.com/about.html
February 9th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Iv been to marine world!
February 9th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Doofus Boob
Ever been to Paris?
February 9th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
I own the bed here at the salvation army,..for this month anyway!
February 9th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Iv seen the Paris Hilton sex tape!!!
February 9th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Doofus Boob
Ever been to Amsterdam?
February 9th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Golly,..if I were as rich as you old kell, I would buy the Raiders!!! hahahahahahahaha!
February 9th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
Doofus Boob
Ever been to Thailand?
February 9th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Doofus Boob,
Ever been to Tokyo?
(I lived there 5 years)
February 9th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Lol,…old kell,..your sinking lower and lower,…just a little insecure old man?…you next going to post a link to your portfolio?…Iv actually never seen a person as desperate as you,..continually telling “people” on a blog how successful they are,…and how old are you?…sad old fool kell.
February 9th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Doofus Booob
Ever been to Hong Kong?
February 9th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
lol…lower and lower the old man goes,..your meltdown is priceless…lol
February 9th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Is your next post,..Ever been to the moon?….lol….melt down of the year old man. lmao
February 9th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Doofus Boob
Ever been to Sweden?
February 9th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Is this what you do “at your office” old fool?…post links to places youve been?…sad,..however, your melt down is awesome!!! lol
February 9th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Why the hell should I be jealous of this?
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/123234/AL-DAVIS.jpg
February 9th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
What’s with the European man-purse in your Switzerland pic?
No Oakland Raider fan should ever own one of those.
February 9th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Old man,…get a grip,..or are you drunk?…lol….usually these are things little kids post,…and youre how old?…wow,…pull the plug old man,..youve lost it,..even this melt down is sad…
February 9th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Old kell,…are you crying right now?…
February 9th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Doofus Boob
I can see how YOU might be jealous of Al Davis or me.
A dirtbag loser like you, but me? It doesn’t make sense.
February 9th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Old Kell,…> “Im old, im fat, Im ugly…I will never be the success Mr Davis is…I instead will live in a blog with people half my age, and tell them how great I am, tell them all the places Iv been,..I will show them all,..I am a success dammit!!!!!!”….hahahahahahahaha!!!! thanks old man,…thanks for the laughs tonight. killer melt down.
February 9th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Sorry old kell,…doesnt fly,..your melt down,..priceless. thanks!
February 9th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Doofus Boob.
I’m just saying, I’ve been all over the world. I have a wonderful life. Married 25 years……beautiful woman.
Born and raised in Oakland, now I own property in Switzerland. I’m blessed.
But YOU………….. I can see how you might be jealous.
February 9th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Its ok though old man,..because tomorrow you are off to Australia!!!!! lol
February 9th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Keep tryin old man,..you might actually get someone to buy it…not tonight though…lol…hahahahaha
February 9th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
I wish I was old kell,..old, fat, ugly,..dammit, Im mad now…grrr…lol
February 9th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Doofus Boob
Did you finish high school?
February 9th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Dont stop there old timer,..you also own property in Hawaii,…Rio…France…lol Melt down of the year!….(sorry though about that being born in oakland)
February 9th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
No old kell,..I never went at all,…next?…lol…old kell,…you keep sinking….might want to get back to that billion dollar deal your working on. lol
February 9th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
Doofus Boob
Is that why you stalk Gary Radnich, Ray Ratto, Monte Poole? Because that’s as close to success as you’ll ever get?
February 9th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Bob,
Kind of hypocritical to bash KoolKell for boasting about where he has been and such.
All you do is come in here and boast about your twitter friends, going to the games, your pills and all that.
Not taking sides, just saying. Pot meet kettle
February 9th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
I admire you kell,..not many old guys like you would do this in a blog,..Iv never seen it before, or even heard of it either,…awesome!
February 9th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Vegas,..if you have a point, post it.
February 9th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Doofus Boob
No job, no health insurance, no education, no skills, Drug/Alcohol problems
You’re fuked, you know that don’t you?
February 9th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
You seem confused vegas,…whos bashing? lol
February 9th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Kell,..dont forget, Im also homeless. lol
February 9th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Doofus Boob
I think you’re the one who’s jealous.
February 9th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
—”Browns signed CB John Bowie to a reserve/future contract. A 2007 fourth-round pick by the Raiders, Bowie has intriguing speed but can’t stay healthy. He’s played in just five games the past three years”—
Bwahaha, 4 games did we get for the Randy-deal! 4 games…
Rob Ryan gathering the crap he picked for us, nice!
February 9th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Doofus Boob
I had you banned for almost a year. How do you like that?
February 9th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
sorry, i brought up some football-stuff…
February 9th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
Of you?…um, hmmm, lets see,…I dont want to suddenly age 30 years, FOR SURE dont want to look like you,…shall I go on?…lol
February 9th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Carry on LMN, btw, I’ll be in Copenhagen early July for the Jazz Festival.
February 9th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
It keeps getting better,..awesome. lol
February 9th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Doofus Boob
At my age right now, I’d kick the shyt out of you, junkie.
February 9th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
KK…
hope the snow and cold will be gone by then..
February 9th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Doofus Boob
If you had said those hateful things about jews in my presence, I would have slapped the shyt out of you.
You’re lucky you only got banned for a year, instead.
February 9th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Doofus Boob
Any loser can come on the internet and say outrageous things for attention, that you can’t get in real life.
February 9th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Oh my,..you still mad old man?…maybe you should get me banned…theres an idea! lol hahahahahaha!
February 9th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
LMN
Should be go to go by July, no?
I’ll be there with 3 of my old Navy buddies.
February 9th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
LMN,
Any updates on former 4th round pick Arman Shields. Another Combine superstar.
So what combine or YouTube superstar will be drafted this year?
Who on the Saints will be signed by Al in free agency
February 9th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Oh fig,..the library is closing,..will log back on when I get to the shelter,…til then!!!
February 9th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Doofus Boob
You’re such a loser.
February 9th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
LMN,
Any updates on former 4th round pick Arman Shields. Another Combine superstar.
So what combine or YouTube superstar will be drafted this year?
Who on the Saints will be signed by Al in free agency
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please let it be pierre thomas =) he is worth it!
February 9th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
kk…
yeah usually the spring starts here in march, but this winter just wont go away, its cold an snowy, im just pissed thats why i said i home its gone, april-sept is the great month, so you should be here when its nice, unless its 1997 all over again, june and july was showered away with rain…
February 9th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
on an unrelated note, Kari Byron from mythbusters, is kinda hot =)
February 9th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
I’m just saying, I’ve been all over the world. I have a wonderful life. Married 25 years……beautiful woman.
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I beg to differ. Not to mention, who would have guessed she is white. LOL.
February 9th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
KoolKell, you are the undisputed village idiot here. Only because your name stays the same.
Or
It would be Oakglen but he changes names as often as you change your skid marked underwear.
February 9th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
LMFAO post 793. Everyone hates KK.
February 9th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
KoolKell congrats on your 25 years, I hope you had enough sense not to breed.
February 9th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Good Lord, KrappyKell!
I leave the blog for a few hours to get in a hardcore PX90 workout and you go ballistic!
That was truly the great old goat meltdowns of all time! I bet you soiled 10 pairs of swim trunks during that deranged freak out fest!
I’m not going to make disparaging comments about your wife’s physical appearance, although the pictures do speak for themselves.
Just the fact that she cleans your soiled diapers all day and puts up with you blogging like a nincompoop says enough about the strength of her character. Or something.
Anyway, Krap Krap, I hope you didn’t pop a blood vessel listing all those places you’ve visited.
Great job, you old goofball!
February 9th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Free Agency begins March 5th.
Will be a long wait until than.
February 9th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Free agency?
Im not looking past a overhead projector presser or Cable beating the piss out of a coach.
February 9th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
KoolKell, you are the undisputed village idiot here. Only because your name stays the same.
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No, I don’t think so, Brownstains.
You are the jealous angry, unskilled, uneducated loser.
February 9th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Herrerra better be at Bruce’s door in the early hours of March 5th.
Even if it is for the backup gig, for the time being, he has the poise, leadership and work ethic that locker room so desperately needs.
February 9th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
Worst winter storm in 84 years for Baltimore, most rainfall in the first 6 calendar weeks for Las Vegas in over 50 years.
I would pay to listen to Al Gore’s explanation.
February 9th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
Vegas
El Nino, comphrende?
February 9th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Vegas
What happened to the polar ice-caps?
And I don’t care what Brownstains says, ok?
February 9th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
The glaciers in the Alps are receding
February 9th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Nope, the El Nino debate does not stand up to the facts.
El Nino comes every 5 years. This is the worst winter storm in 80 years.
It’s simple to me, it is Karma. Clearly there is a huge difference between being “Earth-friendly” and the global warmning theory.
Gore profited immensely, all these countries all took private jets to Copenhagen, so God is punishing them by hammering the country with some of the worst storms in recent history. “Don’t tread on me” the big guy is saying.
Just my opinion. And remember, I come from two Nothern Californian hippies. My middle name is Forrest, my brother Sierra. No BS.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
In the 70’s the big theory was global cooling.
Scientists make money by coming up with theories. Some are right, some are wrong, and most are a little of both.
I fell global warming is the latter. We definately need to treat mother earth better, no doubt about it. We need to invest in wind energy and other alternative sources.
But spare me the iffy science and fear-pushing for profit.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
KoolKell, you are the undisputed village idiot here.
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Aww come on now mistabrOwn, you know YOU own that title. In fact you are so petrified to say anything because you know we’re going to wipe our collective asses with you as usual. But don’t worry, Sarah Palin is a genius.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
mistabrown still is living in the year 1086. He doesn’t believe in global warming. Too bad 198 entire other countries do, so what he thinks doesn’t matter. Just like on this blog.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
# vegas raider Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Nope, the El Nino debate does not stand up to the facts.
El Nino comes every 5 years. This is the worst winter storm in 80 years.
It’s simple to me, it is Karma. Clearly there is a huge difference between being “Earth-friendly” and the global warmning theory.
Gore profited immensely, all these countries all took private jets to Copenhagen, so God is punishing them by hammering the country with some of the worst storms in recent history. “Don’t tread on me” the big guy is saying.
Just my opinion. And remember, I come from two Nothern Californian hippies. My middle name is Forrest, my brother Sierra. No BS.
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Bwahahahhaa, great stuff…
February 9th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
# vegas raider Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
In the 70’s the big theory was global cooling.
Scientists make money by coming up with theories. Some are right, some are wrong, and most are a little of both.
I fell global warming is the latter. We definately need to treat mother earth better, no doubt about it. We need to invest in wind energy and other alternative sources.
But spare me the iffy science and fear-pushing for profit.
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well its BOTH…
it all depends on what time-span you have in the thesis…
the short one (more than a lifetime) says the globe gets warmer, and thereby the icecaps are melting…
the long one (several lifetimes) says that when the icecaps have melted, the slat-level in the ocean falls, when it falls, the rotation of the earth will (which is constant) will cool down the seas easier, and it will start an minor iceage…
its common knowledge, I learned this in the mid 90’s waaay before Gore got rich (or richer) on his book/movie…
btw learned this in a state paid school… (just a poke to those thinking education suck in this socalled socia1ist country)
February 9th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
well nighty night… its past 5 in the morning here, so im going to make a bigtime splash in the bed as soon as I get home…
you guys take care, and behave =)
…well I guess the last part is a futile suggestion =) LOL
February 9th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
The glaciers in the Alps are receding
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So is your wifes hairline.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
We will pick it up another time LMN.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
KoolKell, you are the undisputed village idiot here. Only because your name stays the same.
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No, I don’t think so, Brownstains.
You are the jealous angry, unskilled, uneducated loser.
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Koolkell let’s not forget mistabrOwn is also stupid, bitter, foolish, and vulgar . And you have to cringe at what his personal hygiene is probably like. But it’s not all his fault. The unskilled uneducated and angry part comes from him being a product of the American education system even if the politicians he supports gutted the American education systems. The stupid, bitter, foolish, vulgar and dull parts probably came from the imbilical chord being wrapped around his neck or something.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
KK,the issue I have with you is the over and over and over point of the RAIDERS record over the last seven years,even my grandkids get it,perhaps we can look forward to next year,w/ a new GM ? Anyway,I dont care for posts that go away from the subject,football, and say things about a wife,family,money,or any other personal stuff,in my opinion. Raiders
February 9th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Im touched Gilbert. Amen.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
gilbert Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
KK,the issue I have with you is the over and over and over point of the RAIDERS record over the last seven years,even my grandkids get it
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Gilbert do you remember where the Raiders were 8 years ago? And would you tell KoolKell, because he has conveniently forgotten what happened 8 years ago.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
gilbert Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
KK,the issue I have with you is the over and over and over point of the RAIDERS record over the last seven years,even my grandkids get it
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Gilbert do you remember where the Raiders were 8 years ago? And would you tell KoolKell, because he has conveniently forgotten what happened 8 years ago.
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It doesn’t matter what you say, Stool Kell has a hard on for Mr. Davis, you can’t fool love no matter what you say.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Bring back Bruce, don’t start DHB, get a new MLB, add some veterans on both lines, and kick a kick returner.
Boom, 9-7. Our schedule is weak next year, if we don’t break the double-digit loss streak next year….well maybe we never will.
A domani
February 9th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
I agree with not starting DHB, get some studs on the oline, cut Chokie Lee Higgins and go with Nick Miller and Todd Watkins, draft one of the top ILB and we go over 500. No doubt.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
816,I could care less how youve been touched in conversation,yes,Church is weekly,I think the sermon begins at 11am on Sundays,AMEN brother!
February 9th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
So cutting JLH and adding a rook MLB puts the Raiders over 500. Hmm….. Oh wait, Raiderfan wrote that? Ok. makes sense now.
Nick Miller?? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 9th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
I always wonder if all NFL teams have such stupid fans. I know the Seahawks do from listening to them on sports radio everyday and I know the Raiders do from this blog but what about the rest of the league?? Probably.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
I always wonder if all NFL teams have such stupid fans. I know the Seahawks do from listening to them on sports radio everyday and I know the Raiders do from this blog but what about the rest of the league?? Probably.
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Then why do you come in here you fukin douche bag?
February 9th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Seymour Bush,yes,yes,football! Youre right that KK cant get past the last 7yrs,heck,how about the last 26 yrs,27 yrs,etc.I think Norco Robert is right,KK holds AL to BLAME ,PERIOD.I wonder what Norco Bob would say if Gruden was hired,for that matter, what KK would say! Wish it would happen,anyway,gotta crash,OUT! RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!
February 9th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Well einSTEIN, not ALL Raider fans are stupid and dillusional. Most on this blog are not. Its the re-knobs like you and Priest and Seymour Bush that give Raider fans everywhere a bad name.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
# Einstein Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
I always wonder if all NFL teams have such stupid fans. I know the Seahawks do from listening to them on sports radio everyday and I know the Raiders do from this blog but what about the rest of the league?? Probably.
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Then why do you come in here you fukin douche bag?
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Because he’s a troll, that’s why he comes here. The reason he calls himself Raider Ron instead of Bronco Ron is he’s been fooked up his 5 spot so many times by the Raiders he now thinks we are all his daddy.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
LOL! Says the retard who thinks the Raiders are a rook LB and Nick Miller away from 500. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
February 9th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Seymour Bush= Dictionary definition of Moronic Raiderfan.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Seymour, Einstein and Priest= Todays version of the 3 Stooges.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
RaiderRon Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
I always wonder if all NFL teams have such stupid fans. I know the Seahawks do from listening to them on sports radio everyday and I know the Raiders do from this blog but what about the rest of the league?? Probably.
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Agreed. Can’t even be anywhere near KIRO on gamedays. Or watch the local channels on Sundays. The only time I go to a Seahawk game is when the Raiders come to town. I’m sure all cities have their crazies. I’d like to see the CBS cast do a contest on who has the most rabid fans.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Bronco Ron, you are out of your league here. Why don’t you go find that OTHER troll wacko-sheeit? Wack-o’s mom obviously dropped him out of a four story window onto his head when he was a kid and He is still much smarter than you.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
Seymour,
Listen Oakglenn, I have destroyed you at every turn and have been right with every prediction I have made since I have been on this blog. You on the otherhand have been batting right around .150. Well done.
Nick Miller and rook LB= 500 or above according to Oakglenn.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Who the fukk is Nick Miller?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
RaiderRon Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
Seymour,
Listen Oakglenn, I have destroyed you at every turn and have been right with every prediction
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hahahahahahahaha!!!!!! Dude, you can’t even READ. Here, let me do it for you, since you can’t do it for yourself:
Seymour Bush Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
I agree with not starting DHB, get some studs on the oline,
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Somehow Bronco Ron, you missed the part about getting some studs on the Oline. But, you would have had to read at a third grade level to comprehend it. But you didn’t. In fact Bronco Ron, I’ll bet you can’t even read at a Second grade level. But don’t worry, now that the Democrats are back in power, you can expect some animal rights legislation to pass. What that means to a dummass like yourself, is there’s probably gonna be a bunch more dead varmits on the highways that need to be cleaned up. That gives some one like you a job. + you might get some good “eatins” too if they haven’t been dead too long.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
LOL!!! Yeah, your not Oakglenn. LOL!!
Get some “studs” at o-line, cut JLH and add a rook LB and the Raiders are at least 500…….. Ummm…. Hows it go again? Oh yeah, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
More brilliance from one of the 3 stooges!
February 9th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
RaiderRon Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
Seymour,
Listen Oakglenn, I have destroyed you at every turn and have been right with every prediction I have made since I have been on this blog
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! Question: How do you know the guy is a complete UTTER Dipsh**? Answer: He sits here and glosses himself. (See brOwn, mista; sheeit, wack0; Ron, Bronco)
February 9th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Pray tell Stooge, who plays QB,RB, DT and WR in your little imaginary dream world??
February 9th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
At least you dont deny the fact that you changed your name.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Don’t worry Bronco Ron, once you turn 18 there are adult reading courses you can take for a minimal amount of money. It won’t do you any good, but at least it will look like you are making an effort trying to get out the ghetto.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Oh yeah, I forgot, Nick Miller will be at WR. Sorry, my bad.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Oh yeah, I forgot, Nick Miller will be at WR. Sorry, my bad.
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How do you know? Did some 2nd grader read it to you?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
Oh, your not gonna answer a simple question? Shocker!!
February 9th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Wow, Bronco Ron, you sure told me. What are you like an 6 year old genius? Or a 19 year old moron? Gotta be the latter.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
Still no answer? Whats that? Its because you dont know your ass from a whole in the wall? Oh, ok. Got it.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
Still waiting for an answer to a simple question……
February 9th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
Oh, your not gonna answer a simple question? Shocker!!
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I don’t argue with morons. And since you don’t realize, you are getting skewered to pieces in here. You might want to get out of here and take a reading course. Illiteracy is not the answer Bronco Ron.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
QB-
WR-
WR-
RB-
DT-
There Oak, made it easy for you.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Even if I wrote an answer to Bronco Ron, he wouldn’t be able to read and comprehend it. He would need a five year old to do it for him.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
Don’t go away mad Bronco Ron, just go away. You’re a troll. An obvious troll. The problem is you’re too stupid to realize it.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
Oakglenns inner dialaogue…” I really dont know what the F I am talking about, I am just a stupid slant eye and I should really go back to Korea so I will just try and come up with some witty insults and maybe he will go away.”
February 9th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
Thats kind of what I thought Oak. Once again youve been destroyed.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
RaiderRon Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
RB-
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And I guess Bronco Ron has a problem with our running back stable of Dmac, Mike Bush, Fargas, and Gary Russell. I guess the Whiners are better with Gore, Glen Coffee, Moran Norris and Zack Keasey. Once again, shows you don’t know what the fook you are talking about. Didn’t you just say everything you have said is right? It just took me 19 seconds to prove you are a complete idiotic dummass. Go away. And Stay out of the fast lane!
February 9th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Come on Gook. Answer. Put down the chopsticks and answer you lil peckered, slant eyed, rice eatn, POS.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
Oakglenns inner dialaogue…” I really dont know what the F I am talking about, I am just a stupid slant eye and I should really go back to Korea so I will just try and come up with some witty insults and maybe he will go away.”
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Oh now comes the racist smack. A sure sign of intelligence. Go away Bronco Ron. I have just proven you are a low life troll. Check mate.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Come on Gook. Answer. Put down the chopsticks and answer you lil peckered, slant eyed, rice eatn, POS.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
Talk about a melt down!! Be gone troll.
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February 9th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
Frank Gore probably had damn near as many yards as all 3 of those guys combined and I guarantee he had more TDs than all 3 of them. Umm….what was your point again??
February 9th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Odd…the biggest troll on the board is quick to call others a troll?
Oakglen? Are you having another brain fart?
By yours, and others admissions, the current total of “handles” you’ve conjured up over the last 2 years is 17 +/- 3..with minimum of 4 in current use?
That close, pumpkin?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
Gilbert
It’s not just the last 7 years. The Raiders have 6 winning seasons in the last 20.
3 winning seasons in the last 15.
Al Davis is the General Manager, not Run Run, Not Nancy Gay, Not KoolKell, Not MaddenRaider, Not Barack Obama.
Al Davis!
February 9th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
If Barack Obama were running the Raiders, I’d be all over his ass, ok?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
Nick Miller is a project special team player at best, he surely has speed that he displayed in preseason but there r many guys that play good in preseason, I remember 49ers running back Sheets had the most yardage and he was remained in practice squad until the Dolphins picked him when Ronnie Brown got injured. My point I wouldn’t cut JLH for Miller, I will cut Watkins and Walker, start Murphy n Schillens probably sign a veteran Wr to teach these kids especially DHB maybe wr can sign Holt I heard he got cut.
Note: definition of a troll as I understand is someone who keeps repeating the samething over and over again.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
What Is A Troll?
The term derives from “trolling”, a style of fishing which involves trailing bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The troll posts a message, often in response to an honest question, that is intended to upset, disrupt or simply insult the group.
Usually, it will fail, as the troll rarely bothers to match the tone or style of the group, and usually its ignorance shows.
http://www.flayme.com/troll/
February 9th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
Richochet Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Odd…the biggest troll on the board is quick to call others a troll?
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Read this wack-o! It is the very definition of you. And Bronco Ron. And mistabrOwn.
Internet troll personality disorder
From Encyclopedia Dramatica
2. The Psychopathological Troll
The psycho pathological troll is motivated to participate in an internet forum by psychotic delusions or compulsions, or by a neurotic seeking of false self esteem. The postings of a psychotic troll are unlikely to make any recognizable sense at all. The neurotic troll either seeks to obtain false self esteem by manipulating the reactions of others or by demonstrating his “power” to destroy what others enjoy. The neurotic troll is often manipulative enough to make it past the initial moderation. However, on a Randian site such as SOLO, the neurotic trolls primacy of consciousness soon becomes evident: rather than respond substantively to the actual claims and arguments in the articles the neurotic troll twists and spins whatever he responds to, into what he feels is the “perfect answer.”
February 9th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
February 9th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
Nick Miller is a project special team player at best,
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Chokie Lee Higgins was absolutely TERRIBLE as a punt return guy and we had a revolving door on kick returns. Nick Miller is a return guy that couldn’t be worse than Chokie Lee.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
Trolling is a game about identity deception, albeit one that is played without the consent of most of the players. The troll attempts to pass as a legitimate participant, sharing the group’s common interests and concerns; the newsgroups members, if they are cognizant of trolls and other identity deceptions, attempt to both distinguish real from trolling postings, and upon judging a poster a troll, make the offending poster leave the group. Their success at the former depends on how well they — and the troll — understand identity cues; their success at the latter depends on whether the troll’s enjoyment is sufficiently diminished or outweighed by the costs imposed by the group.
Trolls can be costly in several ways. A troll can disrupt the discussion on a newsgroup, disseminate bad advice, and damage the feeling of trust in the newsgroup community. Furthermore, in a group that has become sensitized to trolling — where the rate of deception is high — many honestly naïve questions may be quickly rejected as trollings. This can be quite off-putting to the new user who upon venturing a first posting is immediately bombarded with angry accusations. Even if the accusation is unfounded, being branded a troll is quite damaging to one’s online reputation.[10]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
February 9th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Oakglenn
I diagnose you as a psychopathic troll. A Sociopath.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Oakglenn
I diagnose you as a psychopathic troll. A Sociopath.
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Are you talking to me? Funny how four people out of hundreds on this blog refer to me as oakglen and every single one of them, including yourself, fit post #863 to a T. And if you read your own post in #864, give me one example of one time that I have come here that that fits. Every time I come in here is to discuss football, maybe politics. Sadly, there are some very very very psychotic people that visit this site. After that complete morons racist meltdown, I have to reconsider whether this site is worth any more of my time.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[2]
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So when you post the exact same thing dozens of times within a few minutes, that is not done with the “primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[2]“?
Check Mate. Maybe you should read #863. You fit the profile for the Psycho-pathological Troll to a T. And there is a reason for that. You are one.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
Oakglenn
I post about the Raiders losing ways. (Raider blog)
You post about my toilet habits. Big difference.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
I post facts & figures about the Raiders
You post bathroom humor.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
I post under my own name
You hide under bridges with fake names and jump out when I pass by.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
I challenge you Davis Idolaters to an argument regarding the Raiders (Raiders Blog)
You post Krap.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:53 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Oakglenn
I diagnose you as a psychopathic troll. A Sociopath.
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Are you talking to me? Funny how four people out of hundreds on this blog refer to me as oakglen and every single one of them, including yourself, fit post #863 to a T. And if you read your own post in #864, give me one example of one time that I have come here that that fits. Every time I come in here is to discuss football, maybe politics. Sadly, there are some very very very psychotic people that visit this site. After that complete morons racist meltdown, I have to reconsider whether this site is worth any more of my time.
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GAME..SET…MATCH!!!
LMFAO…yep…there is OakGlenns yet AGAIN SWANSONG.
“I have to reconsider whether this site is worth any more of my time”?????
IN OTHER WORDS, YOUR SORRYASS HAS BEEN EXPOSED, and now that EVERYONE knows you’re Oakglenn, it’s time for you to create ANOTHER NEW HANDLE.
Yep…CHECKMATE, BEYOTCH
February 9th, 2010 at 11:56 pm
KK, posting stats over a period of time. Is just stating facts nothing to argue about there in fact everyone agrees. The point is you never understand that.
Winning is everyones objective not just yours but you say it isn’t just to argue. Where the objective? what is your objective other than to post stats, of which everyone is aware? It’s like telling us the sky is blue. Uh yeah! and what else?
February 10th, 2010 at 12:02 am
In other words KK your arguement has no point. No one will argue with black and white stats. So you have no arguement your making bland boring statements.
ie…..rains drops fall from the sky. what moron would argue with that. Worse what moron would expect an arguement with that?
February 10th, 2010 at 12:08 am
Further you actually waste peabrain power thinking someone is confounded by your dull post. It’s quite sad because the entire forum is mocking you as a peskie old fart begging for attention. But you just don’t have a damn thing of interest to say.
February 10th, 2010 at 1:02 am
# KoolKell Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
If Barack Obama were running the Raiders, I’d be all over his ass, ok?
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If Obama were running the Raiders, he’d bring in Ron Wolf as GM and Jon Gruden as head coach. The only problem would be that he’d also retain Al Davis as managing general partner to create unity and “bipartisanship”, only for Al Davis to meddle and keep the team from improving, anyway.
February 10th, 2010 at 1:05 am
Yeh, tell him, priest. HE wastes peabrain power. Peabrain power!
February 10th, 2010 at 2:35 am
mornings….
February 10th, 2010 at 4:44 am
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/NBCSports/Components/Slideshows-NBC_sports/_production/ss-100207-sb/ss-100207-sb-21.ss_full.jpg
February 10th, 2010 at 4:48 am
Mornung Nation!
LMN….thats funny as hell!!!
February 10th, 2010 at 4:49 am
mornIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
February 10th, 2010 at 5:46 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,LOOK’S LIKE JERRY IS ASLEEP UNTIL THE DRAFT OR MAYBE EVEN THE PRE-SEASON..
February 10th, 2010 at 5:49 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Dirt Lot, 4eva…I guess Jerry is asleep…What you guys think of Penderwhatever?
February 10th, 2010 at 5:58 am
http://blog.seattlepi.com/hottopics/archives/193906.asp?source=mypi
LMAO!!
February 10th, 2010 at 5:58 am
Browns signed CB John Bowie to a reserve/future contract.
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thanks for the info LMN!
February 10th, 2010 at 6:01 am
I see all the usual suspects were here last night…
February 10th, 2010 at 6:03 am
So, the John Bowie experiment is over…awwww…
February 10th, 2010 at 6:09 am
HEY ROCKSTAR,DO NOT KNOW IF WE SHOULD LOL OR CRY WHEN U READ SOME OF THE P.M. STUFF
February 10th, 2010 at 6:17 am
Should be interesting when we play the Colts next year.
As we saw last year, Dick Seymour doesn’t have too many friends amongst offensive lineman. I’m sure there is no love lost between him and the Colts O-lineman, through all the battles from Colts-Pats.
February 10th, 2010 at 6:18 am
That’s why I never post past 9 pm or so.
Takes a long-time to get a response, and when you get one it is KoolKell, MR, Priesttj, or some troll.
I’d rather talk to myself.
February 10th, 2010 at 6:22 am
I don’t mind Priesttj but some of the others, there’s no point.
Morning by the way
February 10th, 2010 at 6:25 am
I’d rather talk to myself.
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LOL. me too
don’t forget beecham, einstein, mistabrown and bob!
February 10th, 2010 at 6:25 am
Priest seems like a good dude, and definately bleeds silver and black.
But the excuse-making drives me crazy at times.
February 10th, 2010 at 6:27 am
sorry. please excuse my ignorance
but did Jane Fonda really get honored by Barbara Walters & Prez BO ???
i’m not trying to have a political debate. just like to know the facts
February 10th, 2010 at 6:30 am
ROCKSTAR,R U A FATHER YET,OR STILL ENJOY’N THE PROCESS ? LOL..
February 10th, 2010 at 6:30 am
Tyson-Buster Douglas on espnclassic.
Just amazing how much Buster kicked his azz that night.
February 10th, 2010 at 6:31 am
What did she get honored for? I wouldn’t think that she would get honored for anything because of what she did in the 60’s/70’s…
February 10th, 2010 at 6:31 am
Dirt Lot:
still enjoying the process
February 10th, 2010 at 6:32 am
Good Morning Nation, The Only Nation
My post for the day and it is a copy and paste from the bleacher report. I’am in full agreement and have always been.
The bashers don’t know the man outside of what they see and hear on TV yet are fast to make outrageous assumptions and indulge in character assassination.
Who the F*** are you to judge a young man’s heart—especially if you don’t know him?
My opinions of JaMarcus are so far to the other side of the spectrum that it pains me and completely boggles my mind to hear this constant garbage.
In my opinion, I see a young QB WHO HAS ALREADY displayed skills and made throws
that no other QB in the NFL can make. I see toughness, heart, poise, leadership, and ice-water in his veins. I see a young man literally getting killed out there because he does not have time to throw and coaches call long developing plays at the wrong time. His receivers also drop balls, and there is no running game.
You, however, see what the National and local media and Refs have trained you to see. You see what all those who hate Al Davis wants you to see. These people hate AL Davis and the Raiders and wish upon all other wishes to see AL Davis’s first round QB pick pack it up and go home.
You repeat the garbage and false truths you have seen and hear in the media.
* JaMarcus has no work ethic
* Jamarcus does not want it enough
* JaMarcus is out of shape
* Jamarcus is inaccurate
* JaMarcus is regressing
* Etc. Etc. Etc.
You checked your objectiveness in at the door and have officially succumbed to the NFL Media Complex.
They have brain-washed you to root against your own Franchise QB and wish him ill will. The non-Raider Fans hate and fuel your fire by agreeing with you and making you feel more justified with your position.
I got news for you. Not only are you wrong, you are brainwashed and dead wrong.
Boo your own team’s Franchise QB and wish him to fail? You are a twisted and incompetent. You are a “what have you done for me lately group” who are blind to judging talent and potential.
Great players and great men overcome the most adverse circumstances. JaMarcus will.
JaMarcus has the Strength and Character to overcome your damnation. When he does, just how are you going to handle the shame of your actions?
How will you make amends for throwing him under the bus? How will you be able to call yourself a Raider Fan?
How can you not support the young QB in his growing years but jump on the bandwagon when he becomes the Franchise and wins multiple titles?
I say at that point it’s time for you to jump this pirate ship for another franchise.
Now that would be the honorable thing for you to do
February 10th, 2010 at 6:32 am
vegas raider Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 6:30 am
Tyson-Buster Douglas on espnclassic.
Just amazing how much Buster kicked his azz that night.
You’re forgetting that controversial LONG count…but yeah, Tyson’s mind was screwed up already! That was his decline!!!
February 10th, 2010 at 6:35 am
You know what R8dr4lfe21…I agree! I have posted before that I go to all the games and I never boo my team! I don’t believe in it but I cannot account for everyone else.
February 10th, 2010 at 6:37 am
Hwnrdr:
Barbara Walters’ 100 Women of the Century or 100 years of great women. something like that
I don’t have any quotes from BO. thats just a rumor I heard, but I know she endorsed him prior to the election
February 10th, 2010 at 6:37 am
Dakota Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Bo,
Yes, at this point I would trade McFadden for a good RT.
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is something wrong with your right testicle???
i thought you and the wife were having a baby…
February 10th, 2010 at 6:38 am
DUCT-TAPE JANE FONDA TO A POST,AND LEAVE HER IN A ROOM FULL OF VIET-NAM VET’S….
February 10th, 2010 at 6:39 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 1:02 am
# KoolKell Says:
February 9th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
If Barack Obama were running the Raiders, I’d be all over his ass, ok?
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If Obama were running the Raiders, he’d bring in Ron Wolf as GM and Jon Gruden as head coach. The only problem would be that he’d also retain Al Davis as managing general partner to create unity and “bipartisanship”, only for Al Davis to meddle and keep the team from improving, anyway.
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lol… well done maddenraider, well done…
February 10th, 2010 at 6:39 am
I’ve never really bashed Russell. I just wish he worked harder and put in more effort. I don’t get that from the media exclusively. I get that from looking at him (overweight), comments made by Cable, reports on this blog about him in camp, etc.
I have not given up on him either. That’s why awhile back I made the comparison to VY. Not in style of QB play but the fact that he had given up on the game and his teammates had given up on him.
I still hold out hope that he’ll be the future, just been real hard of late to see it happening. Maybe, just maybe, the reports of him being in AZ are correct. Lets temper our expectations though, being in shape is just one part of the equation.
February 10th, 2010 at 6:42 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 6:37 am
Hwnrdr:
Barbara Walters’ 100 Women of the Century or 100 years of great women. something like that
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if that list did not include Jessica Alba or Maria Sharapova…
then that list is schit…
February 10th, 2010 at 6:43 am
“when he becomes the Franchise and wins multiple titles”
r8dr4lfe21 : if JaMarcus Russell wins even 1 title in Oakland i’ll wash your butt and drink the water
February 10th, 2010 at 6:43 am
Tyson lost that fight so the bookies could CLEAN UP,imo….Say doesnt Tyson live in Vegas now? hmmmmm
February 10th, 2010 at 6:49 am
Great players and great men overcome the most adverse circumstances. JaMarcus will.
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what makes JaWalrus a great player or a great man?
“You repeat the garbage and false truths you have seen and hear in the media.”
take it straight from the horse’s mouth. his own coaches & teammates said those things about them.
quit drinking Al Davis’ p1ss & vinegar flavored Kool-Aid. He’s a bust until proven otherwise.
nobody wants him to fail. he just hasn’t proven he’s capable of anything but failure.
February 10th, 2010 at 6:49 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 6:38 am
DUCT-TAPE JANE FONDA TO A POST,AND LEAVE HER IN A ROOM FULL OF VIET-NAM VET’S….
I was gonna say it…but…Thanks Dirt Lot!
February 10th, 2010 at 6:53 am
What a bunch of nonsense.
-Please show me these throws that no other NFL QB can make. Is is the 2 yard screen pass at the RB’s feet? If so, than I agree. I can show you a lot of passes other QB’s throw, that Jamarcus can’t do.
-No running game. We had a 21st rushing offense in 2009, 10th in 2008. In 2009, the 3 worst rushing offenses were the Colts, Chargers and Texans. Didn’t seem to affect their QB’s.
-Were is this character and leadership he has shown? His teammates don’t seem to feel his leadership, and what type of character does it display, blowing off OTA’s, media sessions and showing up in such bad shape that he was fined?
LMFAO!!! We have been brain-washed? No we don’t support 3 TD’s and 17 turnovers from our starting QB.
February 10th, 2010 at 6:55 am
Wow…4.3 quake hit me at 4am this mornin… thought Al might have died.
February 10th, 2010 at 6:58 am
Trade DMAC for a right testicle!
February 10th, 2010 at 6:58 am
does the media trash Bruce Gradkowski?
did they trash Rich Gannon?
you’ll be amazed at how fast they’ll change thier tune if/when Russell performs well on the football field.
truth hurts. if you can’t handle the truth, don’t read the newspapers
Thec is correct when he says that at this point Russell = BRL. black ryan leaf
and if he’s correct r8dr4lfe21, you’ll be in the same boat as those dolt fans who still proclaimed Leaf was a stud QB after his first 3 awful seasons.
1998-2000 is all Leaf got in SD. they were smart enough to know when to pull the plug. 3 other teams gave Leaf a shot and all found out the same thing. he’s a bust
will Al Davis set the franchise back another year by starting Russell out of the gate, even if he doesn’t give us the best chance to win games?
or will he be rewarded for his patience? I think the former.
February 10th, 2010 at 6:59 am
WERE U AT BSJ ?
February 10th, 2010 at 7:00 am
Interesting to read comment #901 above from Jamarcus’ agent…or Mike Taylor.
February 10th, 2010 at 7:01 am
trade the walrus for a 4.3 quake at 4am!
February 10th, 2010 at 7:02 am
You would think with Drew Brees winning the Super Bowl, at 6 foot nothing, 200 pounds soaking wet, with a twice-operated on noodle arm, and no mobility, people would get the clue that character, football IQ, accuracy and work ethic are the most important qualities of today’s NFL QB.
Having a strong-arm is way down on the list.
February 10th, 2010 at 7:04 am
How will you make amends for throwing him under the bus? How will you be able to call yourself a Raider Fan?
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Will this guy make ammends if Jamarcus continues down the bust path?
February 10th, 2010 at 7:10 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 6:59 am
WERE U AT BSJ ?
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Outside Chicago.
February 10th, 2010 at 7:11 am
You would think with Drew Brees winning the Super Bowl, at 6 foot nothing, 200 pounds soaking wet, with a twice-operated on noodle arm, and no mobility, people would get the clue that character, football IQ, accuracy and work ethic are the most important qualities of today’s NFL QB.
Having a strong-arm is way down on the list.
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Vegas: Brees also has leadership, good footwork and timing with his WR’s. He’s also very consistant
Russell has an awful lot to work on to regain the confidence and trust from his coaches & teammates. Can he do it in just 1 offseason? I don’t think so. Next season we’ll have yet another coaching change and I don’t think that HC will be saddled with a proven bust at QB entering his 5th NFL season…
February 10th, 2010 at 7:14 am
Im not gonna say its all Jamarcus’ fault. Lets be honest though, exactly what has #2 done to improve the situation? Nothing. He molded himself into the monster the media portrays him as.
February 10th, 2010 at 7:15 am
RRS, you assume Jamarcus failing this year automatically = Cable fired? I think that depends on Hue’s success with the QB who replaces Russell. Al won’t ruin another season by sticking with the walrus for 16 games. Will he?
February 10th, 2010 at 7:22 am
BSJ,
we only won 5 games last year. Gradkowski, Frye & Losman are all FA’s
Russell is still under contract and Jackson was brought in to save him. Davis will have egg on his face if he flat out cuts Russell before his contract expires after basically saying Russell was his pick in the Kiffin presser and saying “Russell is a talented quarterback. get over it!”
I fully expect Russell to start Week 1 of 2010, no matter who we have at QB besides him. He won’t be pulled unless/until he starts next season like he did this previous one.
Cable is in the final year of his contract and he doesn’t have an eye for talent. Davis stripped away his play calling duties already. If we don’t make the playoffs he won’t be given an extension. believe that
February 10th, 2010 at 7:24 am
BSJ – I have friends in the Chicago area that are talking about it. I’m just a little too far away to have felt it. Was sound asleep. Where I grew up though I’ve probably been thru close to a dozen + small ones.
February 10th, 2010 at 7:27 am
The only chance of Jamarcus not starting week 1 is if Bruce is on the roster.
They may bring in a more talented backup, but Al won’t let a FA walk in off the street and start over the “chosen one” (See Jeff Garcia)
Bruce, having started and won some games around here, at least has a chance of shining in preseason and winning the gig.
February 10th, 2010 at 7:29 am
word has it Hackett & Tollner were both disgusted with Russell and that didn’t sit well with Russell or Davis.
Russell didn’t like being pushed or mentored by a vet (Jeff Garcia) either.
the Raiders will probably surround JR with QB’s who are not considered threats to take his job. thats what Gradkowski & Frye originally were. 3rd string journeyman types. who would have guessed they’d both outplay him?
and Hue Jackson won’t be allowed to discipline Russell or use tough love. He’ll have to tote the company line if he wants to impress the boss enough to take over for Cable when his contract is up next offseason. He aspires to be a Head Coach in this league, remember?
a HC in Oakland who isn’t a puppet won’t last long. Hue Jackson is smart enough to know that
February 10th, 2010 at 7:33 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 7:29 am
word has it Hackett & Tollner were both disgusted with Russell and that didn’t sit well with Russell or Davis.
Russell didn’t like being pushed or mentored by a vet (Jeff Garcia) either.
the Raiders will probably surround JR with QB’s who are not considered threats to take his job. thats what Gradkowski & Frye originally were. 3rd string journeyman types. who would have guessed they’d both outplay him?
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we would have to talk Ryan Leaf and Jay Schroeder out of retirement in order to provide Russell with back-ups who won’t challenge him…
we should allow Russell to make official what is so apparent to most of us… and that is:
he retired a year ago…
February 10th, 2010 at 7:35 am
here is the good news for JaMarcus Russell fans…
can it get any worse?
at this point he’s near rock bottom and the only place to go is up IMO.
so if it’s true that he’s committed this offseason and working in AZ then i’m sure we’ll see at least SOME improvement in his game.
whether the guys will embrace him or if he’ll beat out any other QB in camp is a completely different story.
February 10th, 2010 at 7:36 am
you have to give the Chargers credit for one thing…
they know how to dump a QB and move on…
1998… drafted Ryan Leaf…
2001… drafted Drew Brees…
2004… drafted Philip Rivers…
February 10th, 2010 at 7:38 am
Pete,
guys like Tui, Walter, Otis, Booty, Meyer, etc probably wouldn’t pose as a threat. those guys have been here in recent years
but if we give guys like Gradkowski, Frye, Losman, Southwick or Tebow a shot I think Russell will be outplayed.
I’m not convinced Russell would outplay Culpepper or McCown if they were re-signed. How about Jeff George?
February 10th, 2010 at 7:40 am
Rick Mirer, Rob Johnson & Tee Martin (flashback to 2003) might give Russell a run for his money!
you know Aaron Brooks would look like a Pro Bowler in comparison…
February 10th, 2010 at 8:02 am
Rockstar,
Good point on JaDavis being at rock bottom. Just the fact that he is even at that performance center in Arizona is a bonus. NOw, will he live there the entire offseason?
You got to believe that at this point, JaDavis will start putting more time into getting better. Hopefully Hue Jackson can reach him. At least Jackson worked with Flacco and can at least tell JaDavis what he is NOT DOING that Flacco is.
I really hope JaDavis gets it and starts working hard at this thing because he is going to start no matter what. As a Raider fan, I want to see the team win, and if JaDavis is the starter, then I want him to succeed.
BTW, I will provide the 40x from the combine sorted in ascending order by position. That way we can accurately predict our next draft pick…..
February 10th, 2010 at 8:06 am
Rockstar,
I agree with your point that it is really only up from here for Russell. He has set the bar so low, that there should and probably will be some level of improvement in his conditioning and work ethic.
But, with all walks of life, whether it be sports or the real world, there are certain people that can get more out of co-workers, colleagues, employees than others. The one’s that can get that extra 10% from people, the one’s who can get guys in podunk to not leave at 5 sharp (sorry couldn’t resist) are the ones who excel in life.
Jamarcus isn’t one of those types of guys, at least not as of yet. Because of that, he needs to rely on his talents more so than a Bruce Gradkowski, who is way less talented, yet more productive as were his colleagues when he was playing.
February 10th, 2010 at 8:08 am
Frustrated for sure, but still got Russell’s back.
Swear, some people seem more like Charger fans than Raider fans hoping Russell’s the biggest bust in history.
I for one hope he makes the turn around and is a great success story for us other wise…
Easy for Joe Armchair to say “Dump his azz!’ Its not their $31 million is it?
Davis needs to give him receivers who can run consistent routes on time and can catch the dammb ball. Also need to improve the O line so the run game can flourish and protect our QB whom ever that may be…
February 10th, 2010 at 8:10 am
BTW, I will provide the 40x from the combine sorted in ascending order by position. That way we can accurately predict our next draft pick…..
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LOL. Nice job S&B
you were right about Johnny Knox last year. that kid is a player! too bad he didn’t slip to the 7th round like you though he might…
February 10th, 2010 at 8:15 am
Nmamdi21,
Just know, that while I am one of the biggest bashers of Jamarcus on here, I hope for nothing more than for me to be so far off, that guys like you can point and laugh at me for years as Russell evolves into a Pro-Bowler. When I sent 504 Raider my #2 offical game jersey, for free I might add, I told him I hope he can wear it with pride and make fun of me for years.
Sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade.
February 10th, 2010 at 8:15 am
N21: no Raider fan wants to see a 1st Round pick fail.
except BSJ with McFadden
February 10th, 2010 at 8:18 am
to be fair: the o-line, rb’s, wr’s and play calling were all atrocious last year. not just Russell’s QB play
but it’s not fair to the other guys to give Russell a pass because he was a big part of the problem.
look how the offense rallied around Gradkowski & Frye (hard workers) vs Russell. the difference is night & day
February 10th, 2010 at 8:18 am
Davis needs to give him receivers who can run consistent routes on time and can catch the dammb ball. Also need to improve the O line so the run game can flourish and protect our QB whom ever that may be…
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I do agree with this somewhat. We definitely don’t have a proven number 1 receiver and our o line stinks, but when frye and grads came in, our offense did pick up and score more points and gain more yardage. We didn’t make changes on OL or WR (except DHB getting hurt), the change was with the QB. When you see russell missing wide open WRs (and TEs, RBs, ect..) that the other Qbs are hitting, you have to think its the QBs fault and not the others.
The thing i most agree with is that our OL is horrid and has to be upgraded. I can’t believe we let monroe get passed us last year, and we can’t let that happen again. We need a few OL early in the draft or our offense is going to remain at the bottom again this year..
February 10th, 2010 at 8:18 am
Look Jamarcus got dealt a really tough hand, we all know that. Certainly his on-field performance has suffered due to the circus that is the Raiders at times.
It’s the off-the-field stuff that drives me crazy, and that stuff is so important in 2010 for NFL QB’s. Monday-Friday is just as important as Sundays for QB’s. Until Jamarcus gets that, he will always be holding his talents hostage.
February 10th, 2010 at 8:24 am
JusFkdus is over.
This “hope he gets better” crap is ridiculous.
1. Cut Russell. No penalty against the cap this season.
2. Draft Dan LeFevour
February 10th, 2010 at 8:26 am
I for one hope he makes the turn around and is a great success story for us other wise…
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I agree with this completely. So much money has already been sunk into him, and it would really set the franchise back to just dump him. This offseason is when you’re going to find out what kind of QB russell wants to be. If he comes into camp as unprepared as last year then you know hes not willing to improve and then you cut your losses.
You can’t be a raider fan and say you don’t hope he inproves. He doesn’t even have to improve to a probowler. he just has to be competent in order for our team to improve.. having to start over at qb again would really set us back further..
February 10th, 2010 at 8:26 am
vegas raider Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 6:53 am
What a bunch of nonsense.
-Please show me these throws that no other NFL QB can make.
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If you go back to the Baltimore game, the last game of the season Russell completes a pass between four defenders (including Lewis and Reed) where he just rifles it in there. NO other NFL QB would make that throw and I’ve been watching NFL Q’s up close for a Loooong time. Even Phil Simms apparently said something on the game tape, altho I have not heard it. There is no denying this kid Russell is a very very unique and solid talent. Young players need stability and consistency, and Russell has found none of that here in Oakland with the Raiders. They have failed him as much as he has failed. But it is time to put all of that behind us and move forward. We don’t have a choice.
February 10th, 2010 at 8:31 am
Looking back at last year, Jamarcus showed up “a little heavy” (his words), blew off the last day of OTA’s, was reported by Jerry to be awful in practice, did something the night before the Saints preseason game to draw the ire of Gregg Ellis, than came out opening night with a mohawk and a beer belly.
I’m sure he can improve on this, this upcoming year. How could he not?
February 10th, 2010 at 8:32 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 8:08 am
Easy for Joe Armchair to say “Dump his azz!’ Its not their $31 million is it?
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It’s not just the $31mm. Any time a lst rounder doesn’t pan out, it is a HUGE setback for the franchise. Anytime an overall number one or top three pick fails, it sets the franchise back years. We don’t have a choice. This guy has GOT to develop into the player we all believe he can be.
February 10th, 2010 at 8:33 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 8:15 am
N21: no Raider fan wants to see a 1st Round pick fail.
except BSJ with McFadden
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Umm, hello?!?! I would have loved for DMAC to succeed, even though I saw many bigger needs than RB when he was picked.
Once he proved himself to be a gutless, injury-prone, self-tackling fumble machine I want him OUTTA HERE while he still has some miniscule trade value.
February 10th, 2010 at 8:37 am
This has been a disaster for the franchise, for Russell and for the fans. That’s the bad news. The good news, is our other QB’s walked in there and moved the team, and Russell got booed mercilessly while he was in there. Believe me, NO player wants to hear that. Hopefully, the light has gone on and Russell will realize what it takes to be an NFL Q. The operative word is “hopefully.”
February 10th, 2010 at 8:38 am
Personally, I think DMAC has been MUCH MORE of a failure than Jamarcus. And he has led to some of the problems Russell has suffered. JMHO.
February 10th, 2010 at 8:39 am
# Seymour Bush Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 8:32 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 8:08 am
Easy for Joe Armchair to say “Dump his azz!’ Its not their $31 million is it?
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It’s not just the $31mm. Any time a lst rounder doesn’t pan out, it is a HUGE setback for the franchise. Anytime an overall number one or top three pick fails, it sets the franchise back years. We don’t have a choice. This guy has GOT to develop into the player we all believe he can be.
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We do have a choice. THERE IS NO CAP PENALTY FOR CUTTING HIM NOW.
As for the signing bonus… NOT MY MONEY! Al’s mistake.
Face it. Al gambled and lost. Best to cut losses now and move along.
February 10th, 2010 at 8:39 am
Young players need stability and consistency, and Russell has found none of that here in Oakland with the Raiders.
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Russell has really only had 2 coaches (kiffin and cable) so its not like hes been passed around from coach to coach..
I don’t think anyone is saying that russell cant throw missles.. I’m saying he hasn’t yet put in the work that is required for a QB to be successful. And that means knowing when to throw missles, when to throw catchable balls, when to get rid of the ball, how to anticipate where a receiver is going to be, and knowing when to dump the ball off..
February 10th, 2010 at 8:43 am
BSJ,
He was a “self- tackling fumbel machine” when he was in Ark.
I wanted Gholsron or Ellis.
February 10th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Seymour Bush Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 8:38 am
Personally, I think DMAC has been MUCH MORE of a failure than Jamarcus. And he has led to some of the problems Russell has suffered. JMHO.
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Can you please explain this? I would argue that the problems of DMAC can be attributed to russels failures, ie defenses knowing russel can’t throw so they creep up against the run, but not sure how DMAC is leading to some of the probs of russell.. (and i’m definitely not a DMAC fan.. thought we should have gone OL in that draft too)
February 10th, 2010 at 8:46 am
I still have hope for DMAC. Tiki was a fumbling machine too. That can be corrected. I have heard a lot of the slipping and falling problems and the turf toe issues stem from the Raiders not allowing him to wear his Adidas cleats, which from experience have a very different feel than Nike or Reebok cleats. I think we need to use McFadden exactly like the Saints use Bush, have him returning punts, and getting about 8-12 perimeter touches a game.
February 10th, 2010 at 8:46 am
#2 showed nothing but disrespect and contempt to 52 other guys who take this VERY seriously by working all off-season and do what it takes to be here.Well well,now the other 52 guys dont want him around.Cant say I blame them….
When you have to leave your home and have someone show you how to be a professional,its already 2 late
February 10th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Personally, I think DMAC has been MUCH MORE of a failure than Jamarcus. And he has led to some of the problems Russell has suffered. JMHO.
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Seymour Bush & BSJ: please explain
QB is the most important position on a football team.
Fix the O-Line. give JR & DM 20 attempts each on Week 1
we’ll see who improves more. it’s not even gonna be close
February 10th, 2010 at 8:50 am
I would argue that the problems of DMAC can be attributed to russels failures, ie defenses knowing russel can’t throw so they creep up against the run, but not sure how DMAC is leading to some of the probs of russell.. (and i’m definitely not a DMAC fan.. thought we should have gone OL in that draft too)
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great points Sac & BCZ
February 10th, 2010 at 8:51 am
Gholston*
February 10th, 2010 at 8:53 am
Seymour Bush & BSJ: please explain.
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It was not my contention, however a stronger running game would have helped the walrus, without question. DMAC’s many turnovers also do not help. Russell was too often playing catch up.
The problems with DMAC are rooted in HIS POOR PLAY. If we had a better O-line and better playcalling, the statistical differences between him and Bush/Fargas would have been even more drastic. You cannot blame fumbles and and self-tackling on any other part of the offense.
February 10th, 2010 at 8:53 am
you’re better off passing on a top 10 pick than being saddled with a 30 million dollar bust…
February 10th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Didn’t JR play well the 2nd half of last season?
Don’t you wonder why he regressed?
February 10th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Morning Nation. So Pendergast is on board.
Any word on the Special teams, running back, and WR’s coaches?? (they all need to be replaced)
February 10th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Let’s make a list of guys that are to blame and aren’t to blame for the terrible offense…
Top 5 that ARE:
1. Al Davis
2. Tom Cable
3. JaMarcus Russell
4. Cornell Green
5. Samson Satele
honorable mention: Carlisle, Morris, DHB, Murphy, Walker (doghouse), even Henderson got exposed this year!
Top 5 that AREN’T:
1. Zach Miller
2. Robert Gallery
3. Seabass
4. Bruce Gradkowski
5. Chaz Schilens
honorable mention: Bush, Frye, L. Walker
February 10th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Murphy and Henderson!!????
February 10th, 2010 at 9:00 am
He regressed because he thought he wouldn’t have to do schit over the off season, because he played ok the final few games.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:01 am
Oh…..almost forgot, Good Morning Nation!
February 10th, 2010 at 9:02 am
For Henderson’s first full season at tackle, I think he did a fairly good job.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:02 am
RRS, add Murphy, Myers, Lechler, Fargas (who woulda thought!) to the AREN’T list.
Add Higgins to the ARE list.
Bush is a puzzler.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:02 am
Why did DMC run up the middle so many times? Why didn’t Bush get most of those carries, and use DMC in diff ways?
Why did Fargas carry the ball, and even had a few passes go his way?
Isn’t Cable an Oline Exp, so why is our Olive so bad?
Fire Cable!
February 10th, 2010 at 9:02 am
U forgot DHB!!!!!!!
February 10th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Unfortunately for Jamarcus, he is a QB not a DE.
If he was a DE, all the leadership talk would be moot. DE just need to get after the QB on 3rd downs and play well when rotated in.
As a QB, you get paid the most money, get all the fame, and all the girls. Everybody knows who you are, no matter how good you are.
And with all that, comes the necessary responsibility to lead men, and have them give their all for you, by leading by example. Somehow this escaped Russell in Quarterbacking 101.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Should be in the top 5 list somewhere.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:05 am
Vegas, so what do you say…start Jamarcus this coming year?
February 10th, 2010 at 9:07 am
DMAC’s many turnovers also do not help. Russell was too often playing catch up.
You cannot blame fumbles and and self-tackling on any other part of the offense.
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both played in 12 games in 2009
McFadden had 4 fumbles and lost 3.
Russell had 9 fumbles and lost 6.
Again BSJ, if FUMBLES are your biggest issue, shouldn’t JR be criticized by you more than DMC?
McFadden had fewer rush attempts than Fargas & Bush.
Russell had more pass attempts than Gradkowski & Frye.
Mike Bush lost 2 fumbles (only 1 more than McFadden) yet nobody seems to think it’s an issue. Adrian Peterson fumbled as many times in 1 game as McFadden did all season and he’s still considered a Top 3 RB in this league.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:11 am
R8eray,
Only if he earns it.
How’s the recovery going for you? See all the snow on the mountains? Pretty sweet stuff!!!
February 10th, 2010 at 9:11 am
Again BSJ, if FUMBLES are your biggest issue, shouldn’t JR be criticized by you more than DMC?
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The O-line is partly to blame for Russell’s not DMAC’s.
I meant you cannot blame DMACs fumbles on the rest of the offense.
And if you list (I’m not going to look it up again) fumble % PER CARRY (not fumbles lost) then DMAC is far worse than others.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Murphy and Henderson!!????
For Henderson’s first full season at tackle, I think he did a fairly good job.
RRS, add Murphy to the AREN’T list.
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Louis Murphy had 9 drops. targeted 96 times and only caught 35 percent of those balls
Heyward-Bey had 6 drops. targeted 40 times and only caught 22 percent of those balls
Henderson allowed 10 sacks! only 1 false start and 2 holding calls though …
February 10th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Would you guys draft a good FB in the middle rounds? (I think it’s a big part of the run game.)
February 10th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Olive: Oline*
-We have PB players like Nnamdi, Lechler, and Seymour as a DT.
-We have great players like Z Miller, Jano, and Gallery.
-We have young developing talent in Chaz, Murphy, Bush, Henderson, Branch, Matt S and T Scott.
-We have descent players like Huff, TH, CJ, Kirk and Ellis.
We only won 5 games!! Fire Cable!
February 10th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Thanks RR… I tried to make that comparison to AP and almost had people at my door trying to shoot me.
That said DMAC will NEVER be even close to AP in his ability to run the ball. No one will ever confuse DMAC with a moving freight train. Peterson is a freak and can out power just about anyone in a one on one situation, and has equal ability to make people miss as DMAC.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:15 am
The O-line is partly to blame for Russell’s not DMAC’s.
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it’s called awareness & ball security BSJ. neither player has it…
the OL didn’t block for McFadden & they didn’t block for Russell.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:15 am
The O-line is partly to blame for Russell’s not DMAC’s.
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C’mon Bo, I know you don’t like DMAC, but Russell would fumble with guys just breathing over his shoulder.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:18 am
None of you boneheads are clamoring for Donte Stallworth yet ?
Well its still early..
February 10th, 2010 at 9:19 am
MB:
Stallworth is working out for the Lions today
February 10th, 2010 at 9:20 am
Darren is not a RB. He just isn’t. When a hack like Justin Fargas beats you on YPC, time to give something else a try.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:20 am
DMAC AKA “STFM”,
lol
JR didn’t have a fumbeling problem in LSU as I remember, but DMC did in Ark.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:20 am
Is he?
They can have him..
February 10th, 2010 at 9:21 am
It’s called the NFL, not the NCAA. Not the same.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:22 am
wow. Gary Kubiak finally reaches 9 wins (still not a playoff team) in his 4th season as Head Coach of the Houston Texans and he gets a 3 year contract extension.
good move or bad move?
February 10th, 2010 at 9:23 am
We don’t need WRs with issues! We have Walker!
We need Oline, DT, MLB, and FB.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:24 am
vegas raider Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 9:20 am
Darren is not a RB. He just isn’t. When a hack like Justin Fargas beats you on YPC, time to give something else a try.
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Amen.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Hey O,
What do you think about drafting a good FB in the middle to late rounds?
February 10th, 2010 at 9:27 am
He may not be a RB, but I still think he can help this team on the offense somehow.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:29 am
when you get stacked up at the LOS and you got 3 or 4 defenders around you, I’m guessing at least 2 are trying to strip the ball loose.
if the OL (and FB) opens some running lanes, McFadden has some space to make yards. with less defenders and more movement a better opportunity to secure the football
Russell drops back. has no idea where the rush is coming from … bam! sack/fumble
either way you look at it, the OL & FB’s aren’t getting it done
Cable’s play calling is pretty bad too. running DMC between the tackles with 8 men in the box = setting your RB up for failure
February 10th, 2010 at 9:29 am
RR,
Bad move!
Mario, Andre Johnson, Matt, and DeMeco Ryan are great PB players.
They have a descent team. A lot better than 9 wins, but they play in the AFC south.
IMHO they can do better than Kubiak.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:31 am
My prediction:
McFadden, Bush, Heyward-Bey & Murphy all improve under Hue Jackson.
Russell doesn’t.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:32 am
1000!
February 10th, 2010 at 9:33 am
My prediction:
Nick Miller will be ready week 16
February 10th, 2010 at 9:33 am
DMAC,
It all depends on what kind of FB you are looking for. A Blocking FB can be found in the last 2 RDs, but if you want a FB to carry & catch too, then you need to draft one in RDs 4-5.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:34 am
DHB had 9 catches… he cant do anything but improve… Welker AVERAGED MORE CATCHES A GAME than DHB got in a season. Pathetic…
February 10th, 2010 at 9:35 am
What you think about that kid from USC? (Forgot his name)
February 10th, 2010 at 9:36 am
Man, a foot of snow is a bytch.
Here’s one I heard in the storm. Remember I’m not for either party.
Everyone is implying with bad jokes that Cajuns aren’t smart.
But anybody who would build a city 10 feet below sea level in a Hurricane zone and fill it with Democrats is a damned genius…..
“can we move Congress to Naw’lins???”
February 10th, 2010 at 9:36 am
DMAC Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 9:27 am
He may not be a RB, but I still think he can help this team on the offense somehow.
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I agree as well. But if I have to watch him plow into the back of his LG another time, I am going to pull my hair out.
For whatever reason, he does not have the patience, vision or tackle-breaking ability to take handoffs. I wish it wasn’t true, but RB’s don’t develop in the NFL. They all get better, but most good one’s are good starting day 1.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:36 am
It all depends on what kind of FB you are looking for. A Blocking FB can be found in the last 2 RDs, but if you want a FB to carry & catch too, then you need to draft one in RDs 4-5.
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just re-sign Justin Griffith and give Oren O’Neil plenty of time to heal this time around …
problem solved.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:40 am
My prediction:
Nick Miller will be ready week 16
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I’d be surprised if he makes the team. Al always brings it lots of competition for the last 2 or 3 WR spots. Unless he’s a dynamic KR he’ll be out the door
February 10th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Oren O’Neal is done. Justin Griffith is a good pass catcher, average blocker.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:42 am
I like Rashwan Jackson from Virginia.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Later Gents. I have to go prepare from my classes today.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Vegas, it’s going well! I’ve been keeping it cool with the PERKS! Don’t want to get hooked, thanks for asking.
About JRuss..there’s alot of talk about him getting back into shape. I wonder if they got a strength and conditioning coach with him, I heard Romo is available!
If we do decide to start him…I would say 2 games MAX!
After that we should put in the proven QB Bruce Almighty!!
February 10th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Nick Miller will be replaced by Javier Arenas. It has to happen.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:48 am
I’m hope so Vegas.
Arenas=Gamer
February 10th, 2010 at 9:48 am
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February 10th, 2010 at 9:50 am
R8eray,
He may be getting back into some form of shape, he was in “shape” last year, unfortunately that shape was round.
I just want to see it for more of a period of time. Is he beign asked to stay in shape, that’s why he is doing it? Did the Raiders hire a guy, or was it him? Does he plan on meeting with him after he steps on the scale during mini-camp?
We shall see…..
February 10th, 2010 at 9:52 am
My 2010 Mock Draft
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1. LB ALA. Rolando McClain
2. DT ALA. Terrence Cody
3. RB STAN. Toby Gerhart
3. DT CAL. Tyson Alualu
4. LB KEN. Micah Johnson
5. WR/KR OLMISS. Dexter McCluster
5. OG Tex.T. Brandon Carter
7. C N.D. Eric Olsen
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*Logan Mankins N.E. (OL)
*Marcus McNeill S.D. (OL)
*Nick Lackey N.O. (C)
*Elvis Dumervil Den. (DE)
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*Free Agent
February 10th, 2010 at 9:59 am
I don’t know about McCluster. Certianly for a 5th round pick he might be worth the shot.
And while it was only one game, he looked way out of his league in the Senior Bowl. I don’t know if he returned kicks at Ole Miss, but he didn’t look very comfortable back there in that game.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:00 am
If we draft a RB in Round 3 Al Davis will be cutting Fargas or trading Bush.
cutting or trading McFadden is not a realistic scenario, even though half of you wish it was.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Why is trading DMAC not a realistic scenario?
February 10th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Jamarcus Russell in 10 years!!!
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/10/no-plea-deal-yet-for-ryan-leaf/
February 10th, 2010 at 10:03 am
Because Al wants three first round picks for him?
I guess realistic and sensible are not the same thing.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:06 am
McFadden should have a role on the team, it just shouldn’t involve taking many handoffs.
Screen passes, reverses, splitting him out-wide and a few runs from scrimmage to keep the defense honest.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:10 am
If we draft a RB, I want Ryan Mathews from FresnoState.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Michael Bush is the best running back on the team. I hope San Diego doesn’t con Al Davis into doing a deal for a draft pick that will turn into a bust.
Bush is close to 5yards per carry, can catch the ball, can take it to the house and is big enough to run up the middle and wear out defenses.
Wasting a draft pick on a RB or forcefeeding Fargas/DMAC will just continue the 7 years of “Excellence” the Raiders have represented.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Oren O’Neal is done.
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you may be right BSJ. Found this from Jerry Mac on 10/14/09:
O’Neal won the starting job during training camp at fullback, but wasn’t finishing blocks and his play had come under some criticism from Cable in recent weeks even before an ankle injury.
If O’Neal goes unclaimed, he would revert to the Raiders injured reserve list.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:14 am
R8eray,
Did you listen DC and the Sunshine man on Monday?
I guess they were at the Suncoast for the SB party, and Freddie B, David Humm and another Raider was there.
Cofield said that they asked Freddi what players in the NFL he liked, he joked Randy Moss, than went on a 10 minute tirade about how much he hates him, lol.
Wish I could have heard it!!
February 10th, 2010 at 10:14 am
South Point*
Not Suncoast
February 10th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Its funny, Bush gets 5yds a carry and people look at that like is bu*****
DMAC and Fargas can’t see 4yds per carry ON THE SAME # CARRIES IF NOT FEWER and you guys absolutely want to create a need where none exists.
Wow, what would Bush do with a real coach and real o-line.
Well, Hue Jackson should be able to sort through this B.S….as for the O-Line? I don’t know
BTW, Bush averages 5+ yards per carry on 10 carries at halftime against Cleveland. Then the head coach only gives him 1 carry the rest of the day.
Meanwhile, Charlie Frye is flinging the ball 40x
Al Davis has really established the BIG TOP
February 10th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Why is trading DMAC not a realistic scenario?
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we all know trading JR isn’t an option. DMC isn’t an option for many of the same reasons
#1 contract doesn’t match production
#2 asking price from Al
#3 Al isn’t ready to give up on him yet
at least DMC puts the work in and has injuries to blame for part of his disappointing first few years in the league
February 10th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Bush needs more carries.
I vote to give him half of Darren’s.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:21 am
DMAC and Fargas can’t see 4yds per carry ON THE SAME # CARRIES IF NOT FEWER and you guys absolutely want to create a need where none exists.
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S&B: I get your point, just thought I’d point this out
Bush – 123 carries
Fargas – 129 carries
McFadden – 104 carries
Fargas has the same # of TD’s and 2 less turnovers (lost fumbles)
Also, Fargas & McFadden were only active for 12 games last year due to injury
February 10th, 2010 at 10:21 am
BTW, Bush averages 5+ yards per carry on 10 carries at halftime against Cleveland. Then the head coach only gives him 1 carry the rest of the day
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Hopefully, Hue Jackson isn’t from the same brain-dead land that Cable is when it comes to calling plays.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Hey Nation! When do we got our first 40 times of the offseason? You know Al is waiting for those! Just draft the fastest dude, and the rest will take care of itself! whoooooho!
February 10th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Bush needs more oxygen, and also needs to come to camp in better shape. Should be the starter next season.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:23 am
cut McFadden and draft Jahvid Best 8th overall!
this year is uncapped. yippee!
j/k
February 10th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Vegas Raider,
Al Davis has force fed us guys like DHB and Russell. Why not just go into 2010 with Michael Bush as the running back….boom or bust.
Just give him 200+ carries and lets see what happens.
Don’t bench him if he starts out slow in a game….don’t bench him because he has one fumble in a game….just give him the ball. Hell, why not center the offense around him. The guy can catch the ball and even throw it 4.8 per carry will really help the QB……just give him the ball
This three back system is COMPLETE GARBAGE…..Chris Johnson and Adrian Pederson just get the ball….let’s just give the ball to Bush. If it doesn’t work out…then get a new one in 2011.
This team has so many holes on the D-Line, O-Line and linebacking corps….fix that 1st!
February 10th, 2010 at 10:26 am
If we use Dmac in passing situations “mostly” then the opposing D will see this as his MO.A 50/50 split would be better 4 Dmac,thus truely keeping D’s on their heals,imo….Gradkowski had a better ypc than Bush hahahahahahahaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaaahahahahaha
February 10th, 2010 at 10:28 am
If Cable committed to only one Kickoff return man, he can commit to one RB. Problem is he comitted to an overweight FB to return kickoffs, so I wouldn’t trust he’ll choose the best RB on the team to carry the load.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:30 am
DMAC Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Bush needs more oxygen, and also needs to come to camp in better shape. Should be the starter next season.
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Perhaps…but the only time this issue came up was in the K.C game where he carried the ball 5 or 6 consecutive times and asked for a breather….geez, isn’t that the benefit of having 3 so-called backs that can carry the load.
Regardless, the whole team seems to suffer from preparation issues like conditioning, playbook, fundamentals…etc…perhaps if the head coach would run a proper training camp and OTAs and stop blowing sunshine everywhere…this stuff wouldn’t happen.
What the hell does the Strength and Conditioning coach do? Russell has to go to Arizona? Don’t the Raiders have….never mind
February 10th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Let’s not carried away w/ Bush’s YPC. The majority of those yards came in a few games. With that being said, he should be the starter next season.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:31 am
can’t remember which game it was, but McFadden really impressed me catching passes when split out wide.
It really seemed like Schilens, Murphy and Heyward-Bey were doggin it in comparison. He ran good routes, caught every pass and fought for the ball. fought for extra yardage too.
he may be our most sure handed target outside of Zach Miller (enter fumble jokes. or tripping over himself jokes)
he has speed to burn and he really impressed me during that game. I wish the WR’s put for half the effort to make a play. He’s not scared to catch a pass in traffic or go across the middle like Johnnie Lee either!
February 10th, 2010 at 10:32 am
4eva,
How many carries did Gradkowski have?
February 10th, 2010 at 10:34 am
I don’t recall the games, but there were plenty other times that he needed a breather. He needs to shed a few pounds, and it will definetly help him.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:34 am
I think it might have been the Thanksgiving game against Dallas?
February 10th, 2010 at 10:35 am
RR,
the Redskins game.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:35 am
How many carries did Gradkowski have?
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18 for 108 yards. 6 ypc
February 10th, 2010 at 10:37 am
DMAC: yes, that one too (3 catches, 84 yards)
but I didn’t get to see that one
it was Thanksgiving
February 10th, 2010 at 10:37 am
DMAC Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Let’s not carried away w/ Bush’s YPC. The majority of those yards came in a few games. With that being said, he should be the starter next season.
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The head coach only allowed Bush 6 games to carry more than 10x….
San Diego: 12 car 55 yds 4.6 per
Giants: 12 car 37 yds 3.1 per
K.C: 14 car 119 yds 8.5 per
Denver: 18 car 133 yds 7.4 per
Cleveland: 10 car 52 yds 5.2 (Halftime stats…then Cable…
Baltimore: 10 car 18 yds 1.8
The rest of the games were 4 or 5 carries a game if that. So in 6 games where the freekn head coach decided to give him carries…he came through in 4 of them…..so why doesn’t he play?
Roster moves like this one is why this team is pitiful.
You guys love watching Fargas and DMAC run into the O-Line…then you don’t care about winning.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Did ANYBODY catch a ball for us on Thanksgiving?
February 10th, 2010 at 10:38 am
It doesnt matter SnB because you people always use Bushes ypc to say he is better than Fargas because of his ypc.Just giving you people a taste of your own medicine….hows it taste
February 10th, 2010 at 10:40 am
4eva used “YOU PEOPLE”
haha
it’s been a while. nice job
February 10th, 2010 at 10:40 am
I never said that. I just said, don’t get carried away w/ the YPC. HE SHOULD BE THE STARTER. Those runs came against weak run defenses.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:41 am
McFadden may turn out to be a good WR. I’ll believe the hype on his speed when he takes one to the house for 40+ yards and doesn’t get caught from behind.(same goes for DHB The Ultimate Decoy)
February 10th, 2010 at 10:41 am
los raiders de don rober Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 10:28 am
If Cable committed to only one Kickoff return man, he can commit to one RB. Problem is he comitted to an overweight FB to return kickoffs, so I wouldn’t trust he’ll choose the best RB on the team to carry the load.
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Commited to an undrafted, unproven 5 ft 9 guy with a broken f’in leg.
I hope he comes in and is the next Wes Welker, but man, it sure hurt to NOT have a kick returner last year. Watched one of the Super Bowl re runs on NFLN and noticed Gary Russell running back kicks in the SB for the Steelers.
Reminded me we need a kick azz FULLBACK next year!!!
Fix the O line please…
February 10th, 2010 at 10:42 am
he may be our most sure handed target outside of Zach Miller
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Thats only because our WRs are so iffy, with the exception of Schilens.
If DMAC is going to play a Westbrook receiving role he had better learn to go down with the ball. After all, going down is one of his strengths.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:43 am
DMAC….I was not refeering to your post
February 10th, 2010 at 10:43 am
S&B: which DT do you want Al to draft 8th overall this year?
you know he’ll pass and draft a speedster, but it’s still fun to discuss the possibilities
February 10th, 2010 at 10:44 am
I was talking to SnB.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:44 am
thankx Rockstar!
February 10th, 2010 at 10:45 am
Look, heres the deal with Fargas. He runs like a scaulded ape EVERYTIME he touches the ball. All the negatives about his upright, crash test dummy running style, zero field vision, blocking reads ect. are valid, BUT he runs hard every play and chews up yards between the 20s.
Valuable in that role BUT why the F is he in on GOAL LINE?!!!
I know Bush has some issues with holding onto the rock but bash that 245 lber up in the damm hole would yah?!!!
Or at least give DMC the outside pitch or let him Marcus Allen vault over the line.
Something other than Fargas right side 3 times in a row.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:46 am
4evaRaider Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 10:38 am
It doesnt matter SnB because you people always use Bushes ypc to say he is better than Fargas because of his ypc.Just giving you people a taste of your own medicine….hows it taste
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So are the stats he rolled up in the 6 games he was allowed to play b.s?
I don’t get it. DMAC and Fargas put the offense in 2 & 8 all game and they are better?
Bush rips of chunks of yards in those games…even becomes a playmaker and that’s b.s?
San Diego is going to end up with Bush and we will live to regret it.
meanwhile FArgas will continue his regressions while DMAC busts out…..then Al Davis will draft another athlete and the cycle begins again.
Ridicuolous…..Bush would average 5 per carry if they doubled his carries….we know Fargas and DMAC can’t do jack…Bush? and we have to build in nuance about how the YPG isn’t real.
With logic like that…no wonder DHB played all year
February 10th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Trade DMAC for a scalded ape! (you knew that one was coming)
February 10th, 2010 at 10:47 am
If DMAC is going to play a Westbrook receiving role he had better learn to go down with the ball. After all, going down is one of his strengths.
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hire a RB Coach! why did we let Tom Rathman walk ???
February 10th, 2010 at 10:47 am
DMC as WR is extremely promising. It is NOT a stretch to say he has the best hands behind Miller. Has made some tough grabs in heavy traffic, taken hits and held on.
Decent routes too…
Another under utilized weapon…
February 10th, 2010 at 10:49 am
Trade me for Jon Richie’s bloody face.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:49 am
DMAC….I was not refeering to your post
1058.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 10:43 am
S&B: which DT do you want Al to draft 8th overall this year?
you know he’ll pass and draft a speedster, but it’s still fun to discuss the possibilities
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Suh might be there…
February 10th, 2010 at 10:50 am
I have a feeling someone talked Al Davis into drafting Bush. He doesn’t tout the kid like one of his own ideas. Hope it wasn’t Kiffin…
February 10th, 2010 at 10:51 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 10:43 am
S&B: which DT do you want Al to draft 8th overall this year?
you know he’ll pass and draft a speedster, but it’s still fun to discuss the possibilities
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Yes, Davis will probably draft that Arenas kid or Taylor Mays…if Mays gets below a 4.4…he’s a Raider and they will jettison Huff…mark my words
But if its the world according to S&B Defense…then I pick the Williams kid from Tennessee. Then I make a huge free agent offer to MLB Dansby, Ruud or Ryans and hope their teams don’t match.
I don’t care about him being rated mid-1st round either….after that AWFUL pick with DHB…Davis can pick anybody
February 10th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Bush would average 5 per carry if they doubled his carries….
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then he’d have twice as many fumbles lost (4) and BSJ would lobby for him to be traded for coupon to Kell’s barbershop!
February 10th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Wait now. Are you guys saying Schilens has bad hands? I haven’t seen that at all.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:53 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Bush would average 5 per carry if they doubled his carries….
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then he’d have twice as many fumbles lost (4) and BSJ would lobby for him to be traded for coupon to Kell’s barbershop!
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Faulty. Calculate DMAC’s fumble % (not lost) PER CARRY and get back to me. And Bush would at least force the other team to tackle him.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:54 am
Arenas is a gamer. I wouldn’t mind a pick for him in the 2nd round, even though we should be building the lines.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:54 am
Post 1040 @ 10:30am says “perhaps if the HC ran proper training camps and OTAs”-And you have been to many and seen how proper camps are ran?And you were in camp last year so you can state first hand last years camp wasn’t proper?
February 10th, 2010 at 10:55 am
DMAC, how about this?
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/writers/franz_lidz/01/26/end.game/p1_ritchie.jpg
February 10th, 2010 at 10:56 am
Nnam… pass me whatever your puffin on! I wanna live in a state of consciousness that has Suh available at 8 AND the Raiders actually drafting him!
February 10th, 2010 at 10:56 am
Yeah, that’s WTF I’m talkin’ about!
February 10th, 2010 at 10:56 am
I hear you about FArgas’ effort…and all that…but there is no production.
THere are plenty of running backs that would run hard if given the opportunity…but they don’t start because they don’t produce.
Where does Fargas rate with the Pederson’s, Rice’s and JOhnson’s of the world. Is he capable of putting their types of numbers? Not at 3.8 per carry
February 10th, 2010 at 10:58 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Bush would average 5 per carry if they doubled his carries….
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then he’d have twice as many fumbles lost (4) and BSJ would lobby for him to be traded for coupon to Kell’s barbershop!
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So Charlie Taylor should get all the carries in Minnesota? Should Pederson be platooned or benched outright?
Play the best players
February 10th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Those guys all have good O-lines.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:58 am
We need to look at UCONN and see who they;ve got playing CB or look for Al to draft the first 6 ft + CB who can run a sub 4.4 40. and viola’!
“With the 8th pick in the 2010 NFL draft the Oakland Raiders select…CB Donovan Warren, Michigan
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1263419
6-0, 185 lbs 4.42 40 time
Projected round 3
February 10th, 2010 at 11:00 am
lefty12 Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 10:54 am
Post 1040 @ 10:30am says “perhaps if the HC ran proper training camps and OTAs”-And you have been to many and seen how proper camps are ran?And you were in camp last year so you can state first hand last years camp wasn’t proper?
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Cable went out on a limb and ran a “unique” camp with a week full of walkthroughs…..
Regardless, the QB didn’t know the playbook, the MLB cant’ fill a gap and the defense as a whole still lamented about assignments….DHB couldn’t catch and we had no special teams.
So I am going to blame preparation since we know that Al Davis knows how to assemble an elite roster of players……
February 10th, 2010 at 11:01 am
S&B: Fargas had more YPC than Tomlinson this year!
hahaha
February 10th, 2010 at 11:02 am
I know Routt is pretty bad at the nickle position, but played fairly well on the outside. Do you guys think he put it down next season, if he’s resigned?
February 10th, 2010 at 11:03 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Personally, I think DMAC has been MUCH MORE of a failure than Jamarcus. And he has led to some of the problems Russell has suffered. JMHO.
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Seymour Bush & BSJ: please explain
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Pick a game where Dmac was in the game. Other than the one game in KC, Darren McFadden has been an abject failure. Vegas Raider was talking about the poorly thrown screen passes, but I seem to recall early in games, perfectly thrown screen passes that McFadden let bounce off his mitts. Right there, that is HUGE! A simple play, designed to get your offense going, and you can’t make the play.
When McFadden coughed it up, even when we recover which doesn’t go into the lost fumble category, McFadden sometimes put us from 2nd and short to 3rd and longs. McFadden SINGLE HANDEDLY lost the Denver game with three fumbles, two of which we recovered, but put us from 2nd and short to 3rd and longs.
Lastly, on every SINGLE PLAY in football, you have a man to beat. There are no plays designed in football at any level, where dudes are just running down the field with no one around them. With running backs, support is going to come up, and the running back HAS to beat that guy. To my knowledge, that never happened with McFadden. Bush and Fargas did tho.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:04 am
Lets put this issue to rest.
Bush has 218 career carries, 3 fumbles = 1.37%
Fargas has 827 career carries, 10 fumbles, = 1.21%
DMAC has 217 career carries, 8 fumbles, = 3.69%
February 10th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Yes, Davis will probably draft that Arenas kid or Taylor Mays…if Mays gets below a 4.4…he’s a Raider and they will jettison Huff…mark my words
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you never know. Eugene & Routt are free agents. Bowie is already gone. Holland & Boyd are most likely out.
Huff is in a contract year. due 5+ million
Davis is rumored not to like him, even though he’s without question our 2nd best cover man (after Nnamdi)
Mike Mitchell couldn’t cover a flea.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Al Davis draft a CB & S in the 1st two rounds. If not then probably the fastest cover LB that can’t fill gaps or tackle. He’ll play OLB and Morrison will stick at MLB.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:07 am
other coaches in the past have done the same thing-it wasn’t something new.I heard Tom Flores say he did it numerous times.BTW,Peterson and Taylor do platoon in Minn.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:08 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 9:31 am
My prediction:
McFadden, Bush, Heyward-Bey & Murphy all improve under Hue Jackson.
Russell doesn’t.
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Believe me, if McFadden, Bush, DHB, and Murphy all improved under jackson and Cable, Russell would be better by definition.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Bush vs.donkeys-133 yards
Bush vs Browns-52 yards
Bush vs Ravens-18 yards
The only way Bush excells is when D’s arent prepaired 4 him,or he has a road-grader such as L.Walker opening holes 4 him.But when D’s prepair 4 him,L.Walker or not he’s nobody
February 10th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Believe me, if McFadden, Bush, DHB, and Murphy all improved under jackson and Cable, Russell would be better by definition.
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if Russell doesn’t beat out Gradkowski?
February 10th, 2010 at 11:12 am
bcz24 Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 10:56 am
Nnam… pass me whatever your puffin on! I wanna live in a state of consciousness that has Suh available at 8 AND the Raiders actually drafting him!
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lol!
Suh’s not even the top DT on some peoples lists (Mike Mayock) and St. Louis could go Gerald McCoy or Sam Bradford
Tampa could go Russell Okung
Washington could go Bradford or Okung
KC has Dorsey and Tyson Jackson so they might go Eric Berry or Hayden at DB
Seattle could go DE with Morgan or WR with Dez
Cleveland has a sizeable chunk invested in Shaun Rodgers
and the Raiders staring Suh in the face draft…a corner back…
February 10th, 2010 at 11:16 am
Seattle could go DE with Morgan or WR with Dez
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N21: the Seaturds need a LT to replace Walter Jones
they already have Housh, Burleson, Branch & Butler at WR and Carlson at TE.
1st rounder Lawrence Jackson & Patrick Kerney at DE.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:16 am
Yeah, we might have a chance for him, but we’ll proabbaly end up the Taylor Mays. (And that will hurt even more)
February 10th, 2010 at 11:16 am
probably
February 10th, 2010 at 11:18 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Believe me, if McFadden, Bush, DHB, and Murphy all improved under jackson and Cable, Russell would be better by definition.
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if Russell doesn’t beat out Gradkowski?
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Which is a distinct possibility. Then Russell watches and becomes the highest paid “fan” in the history of humanity.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:18 am
DMAC Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 11:02 am
I know Routt is pretty bad at the nickle position, but played fairly well on the outside. Do you guys think he put it down next season, if he’s resigned?
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Had 5 yrs and has slacked considerably. Didn’t even know Chris Johnson had attended Deion’s PRIME U and had his shot at playing the outside when Nnamdi awas hurt against the Ravens and aside from a blown blocking assignment sack he made, sucked in coverage.
Routt’s a track star who never translated.
JETTISON…
February 10th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Routt’s a track star who never translated.
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Agreed. John Bowie was next in line
glad he’s in Cleveland now!
February 10th, 2010 at 11:24 am
if Russell doesn’t beat out Gradkowski?
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Which is a distinct possibility. Then Russell watches and becomes the highest paid “fan” in the history of humanity.
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Sey Bush: do u think Russell will be asked to take a pay cut this offseason?
say we find out he’s been working out hard this offseason… SHOULD he still be asked to take one based on his performance the first 3 seasons?
February 10th, 2010 at 11:25 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 11:16 am
Seattle could go DE with Morgan or WR with Dez
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N21: the Seaturds need a LT to replace Walter Jones
they already have Housh, Burleson, Branch & Butler at WR and Carlson at TE.
1st rounder Lawrence Jackson & Patrick Kerney at DE.
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Ok, but…
Okung likely won’t be there…
Dieon’s washed up after 8 seasons
Burleson’s been a decent find after a spotty career but has knees and is 7 yrs in.
Housh rules but he’s one WR.
Kearney’s an 11 yr vet who had knee surgery a season or 2 ago and Jackson’s an up and comer but still unproven.
All speculation anyway…
February 10th, 2010 at 11:25 am
SacRaider Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 8:39 am
Young players need stability and consistency, and Russell has found none of that here in Oakland with the Raiders.
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Russell has really only had 2 coaches (kiffin and cable) so its not like hes been passed around from coach to coach..
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But he has had four play callers (Kiffin, Knapp, Cable and now Jackson). And Tollner was probably calling plays at some point as well. Compare that to Peyton Manning who has had ONE PLAYCALLER IN 12 YEARS! After the fourth or fifth year, Manning didn’t even need Tom Moore any more. Manning knew exactly what Moore was going to call anyway. And Peyton grew up with Archie Manning dissecting pro defenses since Peyton was two. Jamarcus did not have any of those luxuries.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:26 am
“Thats not EVEN part of it Rockstar lol
February 10th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Peace owt Nation! Enjoy the day!
February 10th, 2010 at 11:29 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 11:24 am
if Russell doesn’t beat out Gradkowski?
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Which is a distinct possibility. Then Russell watches and becomes the highest paid “fan” in the history of humanity.
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Sey Bush: do u think Russell will be asked to take a pay cut this offseason?
say we find out he’s been working out hard this offseason… SHOULD he still be asked to take one based on his performance the first 3 seasons?
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Actually, the rumour I heard, and I cannot substantiate this, is Russell has reworked the original deal he signed. That’s why when he was asked about reworking it, he got belligerent because he was not going to take another cut. I think he has reworked that deal, altho I cannot give you a link to prove it.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:30 am
LOL @ 4eva
silly reporter. a bust midway through his 6 year contract and a pay reduction is out of the question!
February 10th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 11:18 am
DMAC Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 11:02 am
I know Routt is pretty bad at the nickle position, but played fairly well on the outside. Do you guys think he put it down next season, if he’s resigned?
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Had 5 yrs and has slacked considerably.
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Routt has to go. He had one good game last year. One. The rest of the time either he sucked, blew his assignment or was a PI just waiting to happen. We can do better for less.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Sey Bush: so paying him $9 million this season is the reduced amount?
yowsa!
remember: it only costs us $3 million to cut him and this year is uncapped
If he gets beat out during OTA’s and camp (again) and Cable/Jackson aren’t forced to start him we seriously need to evaluate letting him go when we make the final cuts down to 53
February 10th, 2010 at 11:38 am
N21: I think Seattle would go after Trent Williams or Anthony Davis if they can’t land Okung
maybe even Sam Bradford?
Matt Hasselbeck is 35 years old and he’s been banged up pretty bad the past 2 seasons.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:39 am
S&B Defense: what about Terrence Cody 8th overall?
February 10th, 2010 at 11:43 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 11:39 am
S&B Defense: what about Terrence Cody 8th overall?
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Lunacy.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:49 am
I hate the 3 RB system. I don’t even care which one he chooses, just pick one please!!
If you think you have 3 RB’s, you really don’t have any. Nobody really stepped up and took the job. Bush was rolling along than had the fumble against the Bengals and was shelved for a few weeks.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:50 am
#2 plus Cody = disaster 4da Raiders
BIG BIG WIN 4DA BUFFET
February 10th, 2010 at 11:52 am
??????????????Cody=Turd Sands?????????????????????????
February 10th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Look at some of the best D’s and look at the LB’ers.
Bunch of 1st round picks, and high-priced FA’s.
Jets paid Scott huge money, and Gholston is a 1st rounder
Packers have 2 of their 4 LB’s from the 1st
Ravens with 1st rounders in Suggs and Lewis
Even the 49ers and Willis.
WE need a beast in the middle. McClain or Spikes is the best thing for the Raiders defense long-term.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:56 am
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Oh, we are talking about the RBs again? When are you people going to start worrying about our real problems…like the o-line, d-line and lack of a FB?
In 2009 our running backs all suffered from a lack of a real blocking FB and an o-line that is 3/5ths built out of schytty scrap heap players…not to mention QBs that defenses can ignore. Fix those problems and get a coach that will prioritize running the ball (hopefully Jackson) and our running backs will be great.
Debating the RBs at this point is like a cancer patient worrying about an ingrown hair.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:58 am
But that damn ingrown hair is so freaking annoying!!!!
February 10th, 2010 at 11:59 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Sey Bush: so paying him $9 million this season is the reduced amount?
yowsa!
remember: it only costs us $3 million to cut him and this year is uncapped
If he gets beat out during OTA’s and camp (again) and Cable/Jackson aren’t forced to start him we seriously need to evaluate letting him go when we make the final cuts down to 53
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I don’t know where your numbers are coming from but remember we did pay him a substantial guarantee which would be lost which is more important to the cap money. Bottom line is this: Look at the playoff teams this year and conference championships: either the teams had Pro Bowl Q’s or future Hall of Fame Q’s playing. Are you saying that Frye or Gradkowski is either a Pro Bowler or future Hall of Famer? Obviously not. So, we need to find one. That means either signing one off some one elses roster, drafting one, or developing the one on the roster. The last option seems BY FAR the best option. And let me elaborate slightly: has Russell done EVERYTHING he could do to be successful? Clearly not. Has the team and organization done everything to make him successful? Clearly not. I know you guys liken russell to ryan Leaf. How many come back wins did Leaf have in his first 20 starts? Not as many as Russell. Some of the things I see Russell do are really amazing. Didn’t really see that with Leaf. What I am saying is, don’t give up on this guy just yet.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
I’ve given up on the guy, until he proves me wrong.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
People forget that Ryan Leaf started off 2-0 and threw a 4th quarter TD to give his team the lead with only a minute to go or so in one of those two games.
He also threw for over 400 yards in a game. Please update me the next time the “chosen one” does that.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
I would stick by Russell if he gave me any hint that he EVER stuck by this team. He is a lottery winner. Doesnt care about the Raiders. Everyone jumped on the Bruce Almighty bandwagon because even with mediocre stats at best had this team believing it could win! He showed fire and emotion. He made quick decisions and avoided sacks. He got the ball to open receivers… not sort of near them. Call a spade a spade… Russell doesnt have the intangibles that make QBs great. I dont want to waste another season for the brief moments of brilliance that Russell displays. They are just the… brief. The good plays are the aberation not the norm.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
# Dakota Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 11:56 am
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Oh, we are talking about the RBs again? When are you people going to start worrying about our real problems…like the o-line, d-line and lack of a FB?
In 2009 our running backs all suffered from a lack of a real blocking FB and an o-line that is 3/5ths built out of schytty scrap heap players…not to mention QBs that defenses can ignore. Fix those problems and get a coach that will prioritize running the ball (hopefully Jackson) and our running backs will be great.
Debating the RBs at this point is like a cancer patient worrying about an ingrown hair.
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This is basically completely correct. As much as I hate to say, the Raiders were just snake bit last year. Losing Gallery the lst week of training camp was just freaky. Then Shilens? Then Gallery again? Those are arguably your two best offensive players. The result: the offensive line never got a chance to jell all year, defenses stacked the box daring the Raiders to pass with a green Q, a questionable Oline and two rookie WR’s. Result: recipe for disaster
February 10th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
# vegas raider Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
People forget that Ryan Leaf started off 2-0 and threw a 4th quarter TD to give his team the lead with only a minute to go or so in one of those two games.
He also threw for over 400 yards in a game. Please update me the next time the “chosen one” does that.
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A lot of guys come in the league and have success early, only to have things turn badly. Look at Sanchez, Ryan and Flacco. They all started incredibly well, then things went south. Ryan stabilized, Sanchez has done well, but Flacco is kind of floundering. Remember, it’s not how you start but how you finish. Ryan finished VERY badly.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
either the teams had Pro Bowl Q’s or future Hall of Fame Q’s playing. Are you saying that Frye or Gradkowski is either a Pro Bowler or future Hall of Famer? Obviously not. So, we need to find one. That means either signing one off some one elses roster, drafting one, or developing the one on the roster. The last option seems BY FAR the best option.
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Sey Bush: we don’t have one on the roster. That includes Russell and right now Gradkowski & Frye are both ahead of him. Maybe even Losman and he’s a late addition. Why are we talking about teams that made noise in the playoffs? the Raiders haven’t won more than 5 games in 7 seasons!
just play the guy that gives your team the best chance to win games. right now that isn’t Russell. If he proves otherwise between now & August good for him. good for us. good for the Raiders
February 10th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
I’d take a MLB at #8 and a RT in round 2….or a tackle at #8 and a MLB in round 2…either way I would be okay with it.
Then sign a FA guard and CB and draft the best C and DT available in round 3 and hope for the best.
FB in round 4 if we have a 4th rounder…or 5th round whatever.
Very few FA FBs available.
Gotta get the o-line, DT, FB and MLB positions fixed Al, come on! No WRs, Safeties, RBs or TE this year!
And get a kick returner…JLH is suffering from Russellhangouttodryitis.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/342353-oakland-raiders-double-trouble-in-2009-toughen-up-in-2010
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this is similar to that
February 10th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Sey Bush: Ryan, Flacco & Sanchez have all lead thier teams to the playoffs. Russell doesn’t compare to them. they are winners.
In fact right now I’m sure MANY Raider fans would trade Russell for Stafford or Freeman…
February 10th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
I agree Dakota. The first two picks should be a MLB or RT.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
JLH is suffering from Russellhangouttodryitis
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Zach Miller had 2 concussions last year. I’m pretty sure I know who he DOESN’T want at QB next season …
February 10th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Instead Al will probably draft a kicker to replace Jano in round 1….
February 10th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/342843-free-agent-ties-to-new-oakland-raiders-coaches#page/9
Here’s a MLB we could use.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Bcz24, what you are saying is completely correct. One thing that Russell HAS TO DO, is play MUCH FASTER! He has to get in and out of the huddle faster, read faster, get back faster, and get the rock out of his mitts faster. That alone, would go a long way into improving his game.
You guys all talk about emotion and firing up guys. Yeah, some Q’s are like that. Favre is like that. Rivers is like that. Cutler is like that. Neither Manning is. Tom Brady isn’t. And Brady modeled his game after Joe Montana. One knucklehead comes in here and says how emotional Montana was. That’s ridiculous. Talk to Montana’s linemen, they’ll tell ya. Other than a couple of TD’s in the Super Bowl, did you EVER see Montana go running around the field after a TD pass with his arms out like an airplane running all over the field? Ever see Brady do that? Most Q’s don’t. They are taught to keep an even keel. They’re taught well to do that.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
4evaRaider Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Bush vs.donkeys-133 yards
Bush vs Browns-52 yards
Bush vs Ravens-18 yards
The only way Bush excells is when D’s arent prepaired 4 him,or he has a road-grader such as L.Walker opening holes 4 him.But when D’s prepair 4 him,L.Walker or not he’s nobody
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The last time Bush got 20+ carries…he ran for 177 yards. Cable never let him get more that 14 all year.
At least Bush excelled under some circumstances. Your boy Fargas and DMAC never excel under any conditions. except in looking good running violently…whatever that means…
Fargas and DMAC never carry the day….Never…non factors when its all said and done. There is not one team those two would get significant carries on right now. Not one……Trade rumors surrounding Bush are always out there.
Bush gets 20 carries…and give DMAC/Fargas the rest
February 10th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Rockstar,
Cody is the type of player we need. A guy that can take up space and take on the Center and Guard…but he has to much of that Alabama eating in him. Maybe in the 2nd round….not the 1st.
Williams from Tennessee would be my pick at 8.
As for MLB…the Raiders need to make a big offer for one of the RFAs in Ruud, Ryans or Dansby. Break the bank type offer.
The Raiders player development system is terrible. A rookie MLB trying to learn our defense and learning how to play at the same time…with the inevitable coaching changes and a soft DT combo up front would have a 1 way ticket to bustville….get a defensive QB that already knows how to play the game at the pro level
February 10th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Sey Bush: Ryan, Flacco & Sanchez have all lead thier teams to the playoffs. Russell doesn’t compare to them. they are winners.
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Ryan’s team was in the NFC Championship Game three years before Ryan got there and were basically a .500 team before he got there. Flacco’s team won 13 games two years before he got there. The Jets traded up to get Sanchez and won 10 games 2 of 4 years before he got there. We lost 14 games and were 10 game losers for years before Russell got there. Not really comparable situations.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
SnB,
You have to understand that LAST offseason Bush came out and endorsed Gilbride as HC while the Raiders were still undecided on Cable. Cable got the job and Bush pretty much rides the pine if Fargas is healthy.
Put two and two together and you will understand that Bush will never be the main back as long as The Fat Fuking Buffoon is in charge. Hopefully that power has been taken from him and Jackson gets to decide who gets to play on offense in 2010, because that is the only way Bush will see major playing time while Cable is around. you think that fat fuking woman beater doesn’t hold a grudge?
February 10th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Not really comparable situations.
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Sey Bush: then why did you compare Russell to them?
February 10th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Brady and Manning get visibly pissed when plays arent made. They dont get up in arms when plays are made because the expect it. I dont care if Russell celebrates the good. He should simply expect the plays to be made. But when he makes a bad read, a bad throw… nothing. Receivers drop catchable balls… nothing. We are losing by 28 points… hes on the sideline LAUGHING! Keeping your composure under pressure and showing emotion to get your guys fired up are different things. He acts like he doesnt care, and by extension so do the other 10 guys on the field with him!
February 10th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Funny thing is Bush saved Cables job with the TB game in 2008 and with the Broncos game in 2009.
Irony is a biotch for Bush.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Agreed Dakota. I agree 100%.
Should be Bush / DMAC with Fargas playing cleanup.
Every young player on this roster pretty much regressed under Cable except Zack Miller and Tyvon Branch.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Perhaps Cable should practice the plays until they get it right.
Is he still practicing celbrating a touchdown
February 10th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Dakota,
You and Michael Bush were right about the head coach search last year. Should have never hired Cable
February 10th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
I don’t support this but just food for thought. If Bush is in the doghouse. What about trading him for a 2nd (very reasonable) and than use a 3rd to get either Mathews, Blount, or Gerhart. Use our #8 and 2 2’s to get a MLB, RT, and a DT.
Anyone of those three RB’s would likely be there with one of our 3rd’s.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
when Bush had 18 yards on 9 carries Cable was right to pull that slacker out and give his carries 2 someone else because,clearly,Bush cant handle it
February 10th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Not really comparable situations.
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Sey Bush: then why did you compare Russell to them?
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I wasn’t. I just brought them up. I brought up Joe Montana in my other post, but I am not comparing him to Russell. I’m just bringing up a facts about certain players.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
I want Ryan Mathews dammit!
February 10th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Use Bush and a draft pick to get a quality MLB in trade
February 10th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Yes, Cable has stopped making the team practice plays until they get it right (wouldn’t want to cut into the player’s free time to play x-box now would we?) and he has made them practice celebrating TDs because they never get to try that under his offense in a real game, and he made them play patty-cake for the first portion of training camp instead of making them practice.
You wonder why the players like him and why we can’t win two games in a row?
lmfao
Hey, at least Al will save a few million by not having to pay a head coach in 2011 with Cable’s deal a team option for that year…we all know how much Al hates having to pay a head coach…he’ll gladly shell out millions to crap players, but he turns into Ebenezer Scrooge when it comes to paying head coaches.
Fuk, now I am pissed…time to go to lunch.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Man anyone who would accept that their RB only gets 18 yards in 9 carries,likes losing
February 10th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
# bcz24 Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Brady and Manning get visibly pissed when plays arent made. They dont get up in arms when plays are made because the expect it. I dont care if Russell celebrates the good. He should simply expect the plays to be made. But when he makes a bad read, a bad throw… nothing. Receivers drop catchable balls… nothing. We are losing by 28 points… hes on the sideline LAUGHING! Keeping your composure under pressure and showing emotion to get your guys fired up are different things. He acts like he doesnt care, and by extension so do the other 10 guys on the field with him!
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Can’t say I agree with this post, but what you are saying is basically right. I think Russell doesn’t play with as much energy as he should as you and I were both saying in a prior post. And when he doesn’t, the team doesn’t. Don’t know if that means he doesn’t care.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Sey Bush: the only players you should compare Russell to are young struggling players with terrible stats that play for terrible teams.
Brady Quinn, Trent Edwards, Matthew Stafford & Josh Freeman all fit the bill.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Because of Bushs’ size,some in here have visions of Earl Campbell..Pete Johnson or even Larry Smith.well I got news 4 you’s….He aint even near those RB’s.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Sey Bush: the only players you should compare Russell to are young struggling players with terrible stats that play for terrible teams.
Brady Quinn, Trent Edwards, Matthew Stafford & Josh Freeman all fit the bill.
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I think you are exactly right. You have to comapare Russell to other overall number one picks. Players that went to very bad teams. Matt Stafford is a good example. You saw good things and bad things last year with Stafford. Josh Freeman is another example. Alex Smith. And let me tell ya, Houston Texans fan carved mario Williams into “Biggest Bust in Draft History” until he went to the pro bowl the last two years. Sometimes it just takes a while.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Because of Bushs’ size,some in here have visions of Earl Campbell..Pete Johnson or even Larry Smith.well I got news 4 you’s….He aint even near those RB’s.
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Michael is not an Earl Campbell type of player. The guy I think he most resembles is Jerome Bettis. He REALLY reminds me of Bettis actually. And Bettis seemed to do OK in this league.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Sey Bush: yes, I forgot
Alex Smith & Ryan Leaf also belong in the conversation
but comparing him to the Mannings, Elway, Brady, Big Ben, etc is crazy. I don’t care if you’re talking about what breakfast cereal they like best. Russell doesn’t belong in the same sentance as those guys!
February 10th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Maybe Sey Bush….I dont recall Bettis asking 4a breather,ever
February 10th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
He reminds me of Lendale White.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
Didnt Bettis also play in a bunch of 1 back sets so the steAlers could bring in another WR? Gee I wonder during those 1 RB sets if Bettis was the FB or RB….That right there is something Bush would NEVER do 4 the TEAM
February 10th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
4eva,
Why can’t Fargas take the job?
February 10th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Bettis played 13 seasons in the NFL.
6-time Pro Bowler, 2001 Walter Payton Man of the Year and Super Bowl Champion
Dude had asthma and still carried nicknames like “the bus” and “the closer” …
Mike Bush = Jerome Bettis?
after just 2 seasons and 10 wins? I think that talk is premature by a HUGE margin fellas
February 10th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
4eva,
What’s holding Fargas back from being a dominant game changing running back? I mean, he runs so violently…just like Pederson…you’d think that Fargas would at least be able to outperform Bush right?
February 10th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Bettis for RB Coach!
can’t be any worse than Kelly Skipper imo …
February 10th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
RaiderRockstar,
Bush demonstrated with the few carries he’s received that he has the potential to really be a good back. Close to 5 yards per carry, ability to carry a game, catch the ball etc….but we will never know if Bush is the guy if he keeps platooning with guys we know ARE NOT the answer…specifically Fargas. He’s past his prime and is a reserve type back….but as long as Cable insists on getting his favorite people on the field as opposed to the best players…we will continue this madness…
I hope and pray that Hue Jackson is given the freedom to draw up the playbook and evaluate the talent. Hue was a receiver coach, running back coach and qb coach. he is the last best hope for Davis to show any competence
February 10th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Why cant Bush? he bigger younger faster….I just wonder what it could be?
February 10th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
wow S&B. great post #1162 (couldn’t agree more!)
I miss reading your insightful and well thought out contributions
I was almost getting used to Ricky, MR, Kell, Bob and Priest in the PM. you may have saved Jerry Mac’s blog when people log in after 1:00 PST
February 10th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
4evaRaider Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Why cant Bush? he bigger younger faster….I just wonder what it could be?
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The FORMER offensive coordinator was the primary reason. But davis rightly replaced the underprepared OC and got us a REAL coach….so I fully expect Michael Bush to help lead this team to something better than that we’ve seen of late.
Fargas will recede to the background and DMAC given another chance with a competent game plan.
February 10th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
I still don’t think Mike Bush is anything close to Jerome Bettis though
haha
Brandon Jacobs or LenDale White maybe ???
February 10th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Well,time will tell….in the meanwhile your boy Bush can learn how to get himself into game shape
February 10th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Quit it Rockstar you know he aint nowhere near those 2
February 10th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
4evaRaider Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Well,time will tell….in the meanwhile your boy Bush can learn how to get himself into game shape
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Sure, get in better shape. I can agree with that. But even in his condition he outperformed the other backs. So I am all for better conditioning with the entire team.
REmember all those hamstring issues in the OTAs…TK and Sands breaking the scales….defenses still not understanding their assignments, etc…etc…etc…
Hopefully Hue Jackson brings some professionalism to the lockerroom
February 10th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Truth is 4eva, we don’t know what we have in Bush. The limited games where he was told to be the man…he performed most of the time…but 6 games is not a season…and last year the 3 or 4 games he starred in does not make a season either.
But he showed enough to be given the ball next year.
February 10th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
Gotta agree with ya there SnB,we need disipline.,BUT….
Like you said in OTAs and camp guys came in breaking the scale.Thats why I would bench all of them.professional my azz! What has happened?
February 10th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
either the teams had Pro Bowl Q’s or future Hall of Fame Q’s playing. Are you saying that Frye or Gradkowski is either a Pro Bowler or future Hall of Famer? Obviously not. So, we need to find one. That means either signing one off some one elses roster, drafting one, or developing the one on the roster. The last option seems BY FAR the best option.
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Sey Bush: we don’t have one on the roster.
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But we have an intern I’ve heard good things about…
February 10th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
I still don’t think Mike Bush is anything close to Jerome Bettis though
haha
Brandon Jacobs or LenDale White maybe ???
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I liken him to Deuce McCallister.
February 10th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
RIP, Captain Phil Harris.
February 10th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
If these “professionals” come in the same way they did last year,Hue will have the same slab of clay to work with as Cable….I dont wish that on Hue.Hopefully these guys are sick and tired of losing,and if they’re not guys like Ellis,Seymour and Fargas wil beat the living sh!t out of them
February 10th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
My hopes for this year:
1. Al Davis drafts Dan Williams or Mike Iupati – screw draft rankings..you draft DHB you can daft anyone
2. Make a VERY RICH offer to Ruud, Ryans or Dansby for the MLB spot
3. A real QB competition in camp. With the starter being the BEST PERFORMER in camp
4. Michael Bush named as starter (15 to 20 every gm)
5. Louis Murphy given every legit opportunity to beat out DHB on the field
6. More 2 TE sets with Miller and the kid from Iowa
7. Replace Cornell Green….PLEASE
8. Davis let’s the DC call his own game without retribution…see Philly game
9. Re-sign Janikowksi…he’s the best offensive player
10. Get Trevor Scott and Matt Shaughnessy playing time…don’t let them get lost in the shuffle
11. Make a decision with Michael Huff…either make him the starter or send him on
February 10th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Ha ha thats a good one Bo!
February 10th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
4eva,
You are hard on Bush. Criticizing him for making the most of his few opportunities
Yet you are ready to annoit Bruce Gradkowski to the Hall of Fame after 2 games?
February 10th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Sey Bush: the only players you should compare Russell to are young struggling players with terrible stats that play for terrible teams.
Brady Quinn, Trent Edwards, Matthew Stafford & Josh Freeman all fit the bill.
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I think you are exactly right. You have to comapare Russell to other overall number one picks. Players that went to very bad teams. Matt Stafford is a good example. You saw good things and bad things last year with Stafford. Josh Freeman is another example. Alex Smith. And let me tell ya, Houston Texans fan carved mario Williams into “Biggest Bust in Draft History” until he went to the pro bowl the last two years. Sometimes it just takes a while.
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None of the above-mentioned players was given a fat contract and the virtual “keys to the car”, only to show up fat, out-of-shape and unprepared to lead his team. It’s really bad when your supposed “franchise player” is replaced by a third-stringer at year’s end. J-Roll is on par with Ryan “Loaf”.
February 10th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
4eva,
You are hard on Bush. Criticizing him for making the most of his few opportunities
Yet you are ready to annoit Bruce Gradkowski to the Hall of Fame after 2 games?
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You mention “hard on” and “Bush” in the same sentence — classic!
February 10th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
S&B post #1176
what if Al Davis:
-drafts Rolando McClain (ILB Alabama) & DT Lamarr Houston (Texas) in the first 2 rounds
-Hue Jackson gives McFadden & Bush equal carries with Fargas the odd man out (unless one of these guys get injured)
-get the best available UFA guard and tackle for the right side of the o-line (and use both 3rd rounders on the OL)
-give Huff 16 starts at FS. Mitchell comes in on nickel & dime packages plus special teams
February 10th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
S&B post #1176
what if Al Davis:
-drafts Rolando McClain (ILB Alabama) & DT Lamarr Houston (Texas) in the first 2 rounds
-Hue Jackson gives McFadden & Bush equal carries with Fargas the odd man out (unless one of these guys get injured)
-get the best available UFA guard and tackle for the right side of the o-line (and use both 3rd rounders on the OL)
-give Huff 16 starts at FS. Mitchell comes in on nickel & dime packages plus special teams
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Good plan … wishful thinking.
February 10th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Please point out where I was annointing Gradkowski to the hall of fame,SnB…..
What I am saying is that Bush or #2 dont amount to a pimple on Gradkowski’s azz as football players….Thats what I’m saying,if Grads makes it to the Hall,fine.Bush and #2 never will
February 10th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Rockstar,
I would rather get a free agent MLB at this point. The Raider defense is not scheme friendly…so that player had better be ready to roll on an island from day 1. Get someone that already knows how to play the game at a high level Go big time for Ruud, Ryans or Dansby.
I then you my #8 pick for a Dan Williams. He’s more the nose tackle type and that’s what I am looking for again. Not looking for big stats, just looking for a guy that can clog up those running lanes and let the vet MLB run wild.
I am all good with free agency for a Guard and with Huff being the 16 week guy
February 10th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Someone above was killing Bush for having 9 or 10 carries for 18 yards in one game Ravens game I am assuming).
Well, Fargas has had many of those games over his career…just last year he went put up 11 carries for 18 yards against the Giants and 9 carries for 21 yards against the friggin Redskins!
All our RBs have bad games behind this bad line, with no FB and with schytty QB play, and with Cable’s game plan.
February 10th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
# r8eray Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 9:52 am
My 2010 Mock Draft
_____________________________
1. LB ALA. Rolando McClain
2. DT ALA. Terrence Cody
3. RB STAN. Toby Gerhart
3. DT CAL. Tyson Alualu
4. LB KEN. Micah Johnson
5. WR/KR OLMISS. Dexter McCluster
5. OG Tex.T. Brandon Carter
7. C N.D. Eric Olsen
________________________________
*Logan Mankins N.E. (OL)
*Marcus McNeill S.D. (OL)
*Nick Lackey N.O. (C)
*Elvis Dumervil Den. (DE)
__________________________________
*Free Agent
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ray… Pierre Thomas is a free agent as well, Al loves SB winners, so why not…
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.
Here is a crazy thought…
what about trading our 1st, 2nd, DHB, DMAC, to the JETS for CB Revis, DE Gholston and their 3rd…
February 10th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
All our RBs have bad games behind this bad line, with no FB and with schytty QB play, and with Cable’s game plan.
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But some hold on to the ball. DMAC compounds the problem:
Bush has 218 career carries, 3 fumbles = 1.37%
Fargas has 827 career carries, 10 fumbles, = 1.21%
DMAC has 217 career carries, 8 fumbles, = 3.69%
February 10th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
I really think we should go after Tramon Williams and Will Blackmon (former Packers) in free agency to fill 2 roster spots.
return man & CB in 5/6 DB packages
February 10th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Someone above was knocking Bush’s team lead in ypc, because some came on long runs.
February 10th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
4eva,
True, you never did say he was going to the hall of fame. I was trying to capture the pure excitement you have for this journeyman QB after 2 decent games.
You have him penciled in as the starter, again, based on 2 games.
Your primary critique of Bush is that he only had 6 games where he had substative playing time…well Gradkowksi barely got a look and you have him as the man….even gave him a nickname “Grads”…..
February 10th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Fargas’ great games:
2003
4 for 9 yards
2004
7 for 17 yards
7 for 17 yards
2005
Injured did not play most of year
2006
22 for 66 yards
18 for 55 yards
8 for NEGATIVE 6 YARDS!!!!!
19 for 52 yards
14 for 32 yards
13 for 37 yards
2007
8 for 13 yards
22 for 60 yards
2008
28 for 74 yards
11 for 22 yards
6 for 11 yards
2009
10 for 24 yards
11 for 18 yards
9 for 21 yards
February 10th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Pierre Thomas is a free agent as well, Al loves SB winners, so why not…
***
LMN,
more than likely we’ll go for Mike Bell, Lance Moore, Jammal Brown, Jermon Bushrod, Jahri Evans, Kendrick Clancy, Scott Fujita or Usama Young instead …
February 10th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
RIP, Captain Phil Harris.
^^^^^^^^^
Ditto!
RIP Captain Phil
February 10th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Someone above was knocking Bush’s team lead in ypc, because some came on long runs.
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As if those long runs don’t count…..the other guys can’t get beyond the line of scrimmage…but they run violently and I guess people like the collisions…I like yards and points
February 10th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 11:39 am
S&B Defense: what about Terrence Cody 8th overall?
^^^^^^^^^
Man….enough with this Cody at #8 crap!
It would be the stupidest pick since well….the Raiders REACHING and picking DHB #7 last year!
February 10th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Captain Phil died?
Fuk, that sucks!
February 10th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Gimme Gradkowski over Jamarcus 365 days a year! He’s more talented, more hungry, and smarter than the jellybean. Jamarcus has Grads (and virtually every other QB in the history of the NFL) beat in two categories: arm-strength and salary. Everything else favors the journey-man QB with the rubberband arm and the height of a high school point guard.
February 10th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Man….enough with this Cody at #8 crap!
It would be the stupidest pick since well….the Raiders REACHING and picking DHB #7 last year!
***
S&B Defense wants to draft a DT in Round 1 …
I asked him a question. I didn’t say we SHOULD draft Cody in the Top 10!
Hard to imagine Cody being any worse than Russell, McFadden or Heyward-Bey though at this point.
February 10th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
RIP Charlie Wilson!
February 10th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Maybe Sey Bush….I dont recall Bettis asking 4a breather,ever
============================================
Neither do I. 4evaRaider makes an interesting post here. One thing that Michael does ALOT, is take himself out of games. With only so many plays to go around, and guys taking themselves out, that might answer you as to why Cable did some of the things he does.
February 10th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Los Raiders,
The answer to the QB situation is to not just give the job to Gradkowski or JaDavis. The answer is to bring in some veteran competition and then let the best man win.
Gradkowski has some serious flaws for THREE QB needy teams to cut him outright….Gradkowski might not even be in the league if Andrew Walter had simply acted right and JaDavis wasn’t so unprepared and out of shape.
No way I just give the job to a guy with Gradkowski’s playing background.
No way…he can compete but and let the chips fall where they may
February 10th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
News
Gradkowski wants to stay with Raiders
Posted: February 10th, 2010 | Adam Rank | Tags: Bruce Gradkowski, Oakland Raiders
Bruce Gradkowski had the most success of all Raiders quarterbacks in 2009. But does the team want him back?
Gradkowski told the Toledo Blade on Tuesday that he would like to play in Oakland next season.
“I plan to be back with the Raiders,” said Gradkowski, who went 2-2 in four starts before he suffered a knee injury. “I think everything will work out, and I’m looking forward to it. We did a lot of good things this year and I’m looking forward to next season.”
Of course, the Raiders have a lot invested in former No. 1 overall draft pick JaMarcus Russell, who signed a six-year, $68 million contract as a rookie in 2007. Russell, who was benched in favor of Gradkowski in 2009, is considered a pet project for Raiders managing general partner Al Davis.
“I think at this point, hopefully, they’ll just pick the best guy to be out there on the field,” said Gradkowski, who will be a restricted free agent. “Money’s not an issue, but I know in this business it kind of is when you invest a lot of money in someone. All I ask for is an opportunity to compete.”
Gradkowski has played for three different teams — the Raiders, Buccaneers and Browns — during his four-year NFL career, not including the training-camp time that he spent with the Rams.
February 10th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
No way I just give the job to a guy with Gradkowski’s playing background.
***
do you give it to JR with his playing background?
what kind of “veteran competition” do you want? Frye & Losman or somebody from this list?
Charlie Batch, Pittsburgh Steelers (35)
Kyle Boller, St. Louis Rams (29)
David Carr, New York Giants (31)
Daunte Culpepper, Detroit Lions (33)
Rex Grossman, Houston Texans (30)
Joey Harrington, New Orleans Saints (31)
Jon Kitna, Dallas Cowboys (37)
Chris Redman, Atlanta Falcons (33)
February 10th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Hey I know is Gradkowski is bottom of the heap, yet he is still a much much better option than jamarcus. But if Al is thinking of keeping both and adding Vince Evans or whatever minimum salary 3rd qb he finds, then gimme Gradkowski.
February 10th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
I would not pick Cody at number 8. He has too much Alabama cuisine and that tends to affect eating habits after that big contract….no I would take Dan Williams at number 8. Then I would get a good MLB in free agency and offer up the cash.
That will help fix the soft to the touch defense that the Raiders operate.
Don’t take for granted how difficult that MLB position is to play in Oakland. Pressure to cover, no DT play up front, and a relatively simplistic scheme that relies on athleticsm and smarts…because you will be exposed.
So get a veteran that already knows how to play the game so we won’t have to worry about too much “coaching up”….because the Raiders arent’ very good at coaching up players…coaching down maybe
February 10th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
A RB that get’s the consistent work that Bettis did, of course is in game shape.
Michael Bush get’s to play once in a Blue Moon………..he asked for a breather and people act like he committed some sort of crime.
February 10th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Gradkowski needs credible competition. Not be annointed the starter….just because JaDavis is terrible does not mean you just hand the keys to Gradkowksi….make a trade if necessary…but I have seen too many QBs like Gradkowski flash a couple of games and then turn into a pumpkin when the opponent exposes their inherent weaknesses.
See JT O’Sullivan and Sean Hill….that’s not the type of QB that is given a job
February 10th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Here is a crazy thought…
what about trading our 1st, 2nd, DHB, DMAC, to the JETS for CB Revis, DE Gholston and their 3rd…
***
thats seems fair. Gholston hasn’t lived up to expectations. RB Leon Washington is a free agent. WR’s Braylon Edwards & Brad Smith are too.
they could use our 1st rounder to select Joe Haden (Florida) and our 2nd rounder on another WR or CB
February 10th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
5pm in Podunk. later gents!
February 10th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
KoolKell,
The issue some have with Bush is that he wasn’t thrilled about playing fullback for Tom Cable and his wacky schemes.
Blocking for Fargas…LOL The leading tailback doing all the blocking as if FB and RB is interchangeable. typical Raider policy of judging talent simply on height/weight/speed…Bush weighs 240lbs…so of course Cable/dAvis say…let’s play him at fullback.
Bush ended up playing fullback, but he had a right to not be enthusiastic about it. Moot point, because the “fullback” saved Cable’s job with the 27 car 177 2TD performance when the two chosen backs went down with another injury
February 10th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
SnB
I don’t see how the Raiders go into pre-season with the same QB’s currently on the roster.
I don’t think Gradkowski is strong enough to play a whole season if Russell flops.
February 10th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
I really think we should go after Tramon Williams and Will Blackmon (former Packers) in free agency to fill 2 roster spots.
return man & CB in 5/6 DB packages
_______________________________________________________
I totally agree, Tramon was a beast returning the ball in ‘08
February 10th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
RRS…
what about trading our 1st, 2nd, DHB, DMAC, to the JETS for CB Revis, DE Gholston and their 3rd…’
what do you think about this? how much do you think JETS wants to let Revis go?
February 10th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
KoolKell,
Agreed. Gradkowski made 3.5 gms before getting knocked out. I also question his talent. The guy couldn’t not get stick on the roster of some bad teams….that’s not to say he can’t overcome all that…but to simply pencil him as the starter and expect anything positive is a big stretch to me
February 10th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
No way the Jets give up Revis. THe whole point of draft picks is to get guys like Revis.
DHB and DMAC have no value right now. DHB because he can’t catch and DMAC because of a combination of health issues, fumbles and baffoonery at the coaching position.
So take a 1st round pick and hope you get a Revis type player and a 2nd rounder….nope..Gholston, he’s going to be out of football real quick
February 10th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Yamon Figures was brought in to “push’ Nick Miller
What a mess this team is right now
February 10th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
# r8eray Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 9:52 am
My 2010 Mock Draft
_____________________________
1. LB ALA. Rolando McClain
2. DT ALA. Terrence Cody
3. RB STAN. Toby Gerhart
3. DT CAL. Tyson Alualu
4. LB KEN. Micah Johnson
5. WR/KR OLMISS. Dexter McCluster
5. OG Tex.T. Brandon Carter
7. C N.D. Eric Olsen
________________________________
*Logan Mankins N.E. (OL)
*Marcus McNeill S.D. (OL)
*Nick Lackey N.O. (C)
*Elvis Dumervil Den. (DE)
__________________________________
*Free Agent
—————————————————–
ray… Pierre Thomas is a free agent as well, Al loves SB winners, so why not…
.
.
.
Here is a crazy thought…
what about trading our 1st, 2nd, DHB, DMAC, to the JETS for CB Revis, DE Gholston and their 3rd…
______________________________________________________
Pierre Thomas…….I like that idea!! He’s at his prime, at 25 years of age!!
February 10th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Kell, honestly, what QB in the NFL could shine with the O-line we have on the field? Russell being smart enough to fall down, was our only QB too not get hurt.
February 10th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
So Micheal Vick has come out and said that he regrets not trying hard enough when he was with Atlanta. Not putting in enough study time.
I wonder if JaMarcus heard that yet?
February 10th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
La Milicia, what kind of money do you think the Raiders should pay Pierre for his services?
February 10th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
You guys need to check this out!
This is the way I would love to see one of our QB’S act like during a game!
http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=67832c52-6191-4b07-8574-430babd59704
February 10th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Dakota Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Captain Phil died?
Fuk, that sucks!
^^^^^^^^
Yeah he did. Sad. Feel bad for his sons. They seem like cool kats.
He had a blood clot in his lungs last season and if he didn’t stop smoking…which I’m sure he didn’t this season….then I think him passing sooner rather than later was inevevitable.
February 10th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Brees: “One.”
Team: “Two.”
Brees: “Win.”
Team: “For you.”
Brees: “Three.”
Team: “Four.”
Brees: “Win.”
Team: “Some more.”
Brees: “Five.”
Team: “Six.”
Brees: “Win.”
Team: “For kicks.”
Brees: “Seven.”
Team: “Eight.”
Brees: “Win.”
Team: “It’s great.”
Brees: “Nine.”
Team: “Ten.”
Brees: “Win.”
Team: “Again.”
Brees: “Win.”
Team: “Again.”
And they continue with Brees yelling “win” and the team shouting “again” until it melts into a general mass of whooping and yelling.
February 10th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Krappy – wow bro, I’m amazed you actually came back to the blog after your historically pathetic melt down yesterday with Norco Bob.
I never thought you’d actually be deranged enough to list all the places around the world you’ve visited! Man, you were really like a wacky teenage chick on the rag, huh?
Anyway, I’m always amazed when you choose to show your face, per se, in the ol blog after one of your increasingly frequent humiliations.
But I guess you have nothing better to do, other than dream that you really do own a chalet in Switzerland, crap your overalls and dunk your head in the comb sanitizer at the barber shop.
Only 4 more months to Baja, you silly old freak!
February 10th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Only 4 more months to Baja, you silly old freak!
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Too funny.
February 10th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Only 4 more month to Baja, oh my.
February 10th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
GET TROY SMITH
February 10th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
It’s going to be awesome, my funky old pal!
Dakota has been practicing his burrito rolling technique night and day and promises the most tightly wrapped carne asada this side of Tapachula.
How’ve rehearsals been going on your open water kayaking exhibition? Man, the blog is BUZZING with anticipation.
Can you give folks a detail or two to whet their appetites?
February 10th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Oakglenn Beecham,
You are a psychopath
February 10th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Drew Brees all up for new contracts…..Nnamdi Asomugha’s contract guarantees him the average of the top 5 QBs salary.
February 10th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Ranking 31st of 32 teams in 2009, the Chiefs’ defense allowed over 156 rushing yards per game.
Pendergast was horrible as the Chiefs tried to shift to a 3-4. Teams and plaers had career games against him.
Lets hope he does better with Oakland…
February 10th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Nnamdi may not be worth that. In fact, he’s not.
February 10th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
He’s not worth that much. But the Raiders had to overpay….Nnamdi is basically willing to forgoe a chance at the Super Bowl for the extra pay he is getting.
No other team is going to pay a CB that much….Peyton, Drew, Brady…You are looking at $20 to $25 million per year…is Nnamdi worth that?
February 10th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
DK007…
google or bing search, Captain Phil Harris.
He died from complications of a stroke he had 10 days or so ago….
February 10th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Not sure why you think I’m Oakglenn, Krappy.
But whatevs. I’m sure its not the first time you’ve confused a totally cool, in shape dude for some other regular dude.
Hey Krappy, I’ve been meaning to talk to you about your real estate website.
Honestly, Krap Krap – it blows.
We need to get some new pictures up there asap, starting with the one of you driving that junky old red convertible. That piece of junk belongs in the scrap heap next to my grandpa’s lawnmower.
I suggest replacing it with a classic shot of you mistaking your computer for a microwave and trying to jam a Lean Cuisine through the screen.
Second, need some hotter pics of the ol wifey. Obviously the old bird is a total flirt, so let’s get some bikini and lingerie shots up there for the fellas.
Don’t worry, I promise I’ll take a shot or 10 of Jim Beam before I gaze upon her extensive geography.
You know what I’m talking bout.
February 10th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Because, whatever Nnamdi contributes to the Raiders, is nowhere near what those guys provide to their teams.
Nnamdi doesn’t seem to provide any leadership. I know he’s classy and all, but what does he provide to that locker room.
Why is it that during all his years here that defense hasn’t changed one bit. They STILL don’t know their assignments.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Oakglenn Beecham S Bush, you cross-naming troll.
You’re a psycopath.
Could you go nibble on somebody else’s pant legs for a while?
February 10th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
And then the Raiders and their rigid scheme doesn’t even take full advantage of Nnamdi’s skills.
MOstly man2man…so the QB is hardly confused about what we are running….arrogantly leaving Nnamdi on one side and not having him “shut down” the opponents best receiver….
Oh well…Davis really can’t afford to let a Cornerback go. he drafted some 50 CBs in the 1st round trying to find a Nnamdi Asomugha
February 10th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
LMAO
“he drafted some 50 CBs in the 1st round trying to find a Nnamdi Asomugha”
Quote of the day!
Expect him to draft 2 or 3 more in the upcoming draft!
February 10th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
Krappy, I have no idea why you are so opposed to my helpful suggestions to improve your website.
I thought you wanted to be the hottest and most well respected senior citizen broker in the Bay Area?
All I’m asking is for you to try my ideas out on a trial basis and see what kind of results you get. How hard can that be?
I guarantee, if you don’t attract more hot blooded male customers after posting some sexy photos of your wife in compromising positions along with a few of yourself stumbling around your apartment, I’ll go back to the drawing board.
In case you forgot, Krap Krap – sex and dumbness sell! Heck, I’m sure you’ve seen American Pie AT LEAST 50 times.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
http://www.fanfeedr.com/nfl/2010/02/10/jamarcus-russell-guide-to-redemption
February 10th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Hey 408! Any reason the count is up to 1242? Is Jerry OK?
February 10th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
DK007…
google or bing search, Captain Phil Harris.
He died from complications of a stroke he had 10 days or so ago….
^^^^^^^^
Yeah I know….I heard about this morning.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
DK, he also had a history of having blood clots, maybe the smoking, maybe not, sure gonna miss him!
February 10th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
nice article 408
860Todd Christensen…..Jerry sometimes trips out on acid for days on end or goes on a drunken binge then wakes up naked on a beach in Mexico realizing that his blog has been neglected.
If they would stop putting worms in Tequila he might be alright…..I hope I don’t get banned for this style of sarcasm…..
February 10th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
I have a jar of those worms somewhere around here, get me an address, and I’ll over-night em!
February 10th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Russell might come in at 250-260lbs, but I doubt his personality will change.
If Al Davis can butt out and let Jackson/Russell get something going.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
vegas raider Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 6:18 am
That’s why I never post past 9 pm or so.
Takes a long-time to get a response, and when you get one it is KoolKell, MR, Priesttj, or some troll.
…………….
Just how many high heels are you going to take off and throw at me, sweetie?
And, just where do you get the high ground to call anyone here a troll? This is Jerry’s blog. Truth be told, every single comment here that’s not about Pendergast is off topic. But of course, it’s ok for you to take the topic of discussion anywhere you want. If I had a dollar for every time you brought up a political point in the middle of a football discussion, I could afford to eat the Palms, too. If you’re not an employee of the Raiders, you should be. You’ve got the mantra down. Vilify the most outspoken critics of the team, and, most importantly, act like you’re living a far more glamorous life than anyone here, even if you’re probably not.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Alright Krappy, let’s just take an informal poll and let the bloggers – your potential clients – decide.
Who thinks KrappyKell’s real estate website would be improved with hot pictures of his wife in sexy lingerie?
February 10th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
SB, pick on Kell, not fair to drag his wife into it, only fair!
February 10th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
I think Kells web site could be improved with a full size 3D replica of the hemorrhoids he just had surgically removed and then some hi-def photo’s of his bed sores might be cool….kind of like consumptionjunction
Remember that site?
February 10th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
860, what you call “picking on” I call making a star!
Krappy himself promotes his old lady as being the sexy temptress he’s been with for decades.
So if her rockin’ body can help him drum up some much needed business, you’d be opposed to it?
That seems pretty selfish of you, to be totally honest.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Yawn*
February 10th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
I’ve been posting here a lot less lately, and now I can see why. By reading these comments I’ve only been reminded of one thing: The only thing that sucks more than the Raiders are the fans who attack other fans for being critical of team management. You guys are trash. You always say we’d be happier if we gave up on the Raiders and found another team. That may be true. But what’s also true is that you guys would be happier if you did the same. You’d enjoy life more if you just gave up on the Raiders and took up another team. And I know what you’re thinking…if you did such a thing, the Raiders would turn it around and then you’d feel bad. Trust me, that’s never going to happen. 7 straight years of suckage now, which is a record. Again, 7 straight years. Do you honestly think it’s just a coincidence. Again, it’s a record. You can jump on the bandwagon of the worst team in the league right now, call it the Detroit Lions, and I guarantee you they’ll turn it around faster than the Raiders. And, you won’t be a front runner because they suck at present day. You jumped on when they were at the bottom. Perfectly noble thing to do. Believe me, you guys will never again see another Raider playoff team. Not even after Al’s dead. Whoever he leaves the team to will be given a strict blueprint of how to run the team, and Al will make sure a law firm is monitoring team management. The Raiders suck. They always will suck. And so will you. I’ll be back to “troll” the place tomorrow. I won’t be posting past 9pm anymore, because my favorite victim Vegas Raider just announced that he’s no longer here at that hour.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Hey fellow Raider fans its been a couple weeks since I been on. If all we’re doing is talking crap, then Jerry needs to post more articles if we are on 1,251 comments.
Doesn’t matter if Russell’s weight is 250 pounds. His brain is out of shape.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
She is only his nurse, but delusion goes on forever. Pick on Kell, it’s quite funny at times, he loves it, let it go at that!
February 10th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Oakglenn
If you want to jackoff to my wife’s pix……go ahead.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
1254 racist comment, you should be banned for life!
February 10th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
It’s the off-season, and Blog Management let the garbage back in.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Ok, so scoring has been a bit difficult so far, but here’s what I’ve been able to ascertain -
FOR – Your pal Beeecham, 666, MaddenRetard, KrappyKell
AGAINST – 860, RaiderErection
Polls close at midnight tonight – get your vote in, bloggers of the mighty Nation!
February 10th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Kell, sent my heads out for flycutting, CC’n, flowing, looking for 11.1 compression ratio, how’s your V doing?
February 10th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Krappy, on a personal note – I have no interest in pleasuring myself to online images of your dear wife.
Remember, I have plenty of smoking hot babes around me all the time now (you obviously forgot that I’m kicking butt in the PX90 extreme workout and eating more citrus).
This is purely a smart marketing tool to help your career blossom. Hopefully with my help you can someday pass on a SUCCESSFUL business to your grandson, Brian the Genital.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Beech,
I think the only one interested is you. Poor thing.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Beech
Smoking hot babes around you all the time???????
Posters in the basement?
February 10th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Krappy, if you could see the way my quads look after a few dozen Heisman poses, you’d know why the other side of my bed is never empty.
Last weekend I ran around Santa Monica with my shirt off and somehow ended up in TMZ.com under the heading “Matthew McCanaughey Gets Ripped for Summer”.
If you think all that is totally cool, just wait until I follow up my pilates class tonight with a low cal date shake.
February 10th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Beech
You live in your own psycho troll world, don’t you?
February 10th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
Don’t worry Krappy, when we get to Baja we’ll be doing crunches and parachute sprints on the beach before sunrise.
February 10th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
No thanks Beech, 4 months from now I’ll be in Copenhagen with friends.
February 10th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
On how he led the Raiders: “When I came to Oakland in 1999, I didn’t sign up to be the team jerk but I was taken aback by the things I was seeing. Guys being late to meetings, guys missing practices. Sometimes, something had to be said. … You’re never going to have 53 guys committed. But if you have 45 or 48, you’re gonna beat the team that has 25. When I first got to Oakland, I would say we were batting about .500. Over a course of time, we brought in players like a Jerry Rice or a Rod Woodson or a Tracy Armstrong and we were starting to head into the right direction.” -Rich Gannon
February 10th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Some players showed disregard for authority. In one ugly incident, which occurred a few days before the Raiders’ 34-21 loss to the Cowboys on Nov. 19, defensive end Anthony Smith attacked his position coach, Floyd Peters, after Peters questioned his play during a meeting. Witnesses say the 6′3″, 265-pound Smith knocked the 60-year-old Peters to the ground while other players and coaches watched. Yet Smith started against Dallas, which disgusted many of his teammates.
“The problem with the Raiders is there’s no accountability,” says one prominent veteran. “People say Al Davis is too involved. Hell, I think he should get more involved, if that’s what it would take.” Last season Davis spent less time around the players and coaches than he had in previous years, but he remained the Raiders’ absolute authority figure.
Mike Silver S.I. 1996
February 10th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
i read the back and forth about Michael Bush above…
some are whining about Bush’s apparent lack of commitment… needing an occasional (or depending on who you are talking to, an every other play) breather…
some have whined that he didn’t want to play fullback… didn’t want to be the waterboy… and refused to give Cable a reach around…
so what… i don’t blame him… what Bush needs from the Raiders is to keep the promises made to him… and until they do… expect him to come to work each day and do what he is told…
all the while he is hoping he doesn’t get injured befoer his opportunity for a big payday…
to better understand… here’s some history… (stolen from wikipedia & severely edited)…
Michael Bush (born June 16, 1984, in Louisville, Kentucky) ~~~~~~ was drafted in the 4th round of the 2007 NFL Draft. He played college football at the University of Louisville.
High school
Bush attended Louisville Male High School where he played quarterback his senior year after seeing action at defensive back, defensive end, linebacker, running back, safety, and wide receiver over his career.
As a senior, he led the Bulldogs to the state championship game in Kentucky’s highest class. In a showdown with future Louisville teammate Brian Brohm and his Trinity Shamrocks, Bush threw for 468 yards and six touchdowns and ran for 116 yards and another touchdown in a 59-56 loss. He also caught two passes for 24 yards, returned a punt and a kickoff, and made five tackles on defense.[1]
University of Louisville
College Rushing Stats
Year G Att Yrd TD Lng Avg
2003 13 81 503 6 81 6.2
2004 12 132 734 7 31 5.6
2005 10 205 1143 23 73 5.6
2006 1 17 128 3 51 7.5
Totals 36 435 2508 39 81 5.8
Following a successful high school career, Bush became a highly sought after college recruit. He turned down offers from several more established programs (including Ohio State) to stay at home and attend the University of Louisville, largely because head coach
Bobby Petrino promised the opportunity to play quarterback,
his preferred position. As a true freshman, he was forced to play several positions in order to get on the field because Louisville’s starting quarterback position was locked down by Stefan LeFors. Though he was not the starter, Bush was able to rush for 100 yards in back-to-back games as a tailback toward the end of the year.
Meanwhile, Petrino had decided to recruit another star quarterback from the Louisville area: Brian Brohm of Trinity.
Though Bush had played various positions his freshman year, he believed this arrangement to be temporary and still expected to be a quarterback in the long-term.
The recruitment of Brohm, however, meant Bush would have to find another position. Much to Bush’s chagrin, Petrino moved him to tailback permanently.
In 2004 as a sophomore, Bush backed up Lionel Gates and Eric Shelton. He rushed for 734 yards and 7 touchdowns,[3] and proved himself worthy of the starting role for next season.
Bush’s breakout season came as a junior in 2005, as he rushed for 1143 yards on 205 carries, averaging 5.6 yards per carry, racked up 23 rushing touchdowns, and led NCAA Division 1-A in scoring.[4] He was also widely considered to be a preseason candidate for the 2006 Heisman Trophy.[5] Though he could have left early for the NFL Draft, Bush decided to return for his senior season.
He came into the 2006 projected as one of the top 10 players for the 2007 NFL Draft, and his season began successfully as expected. His first carry of the season was a 48-yard run for a touchdown in the Cardinals’ annual rivalry game with Kentucky. He then scored two more touchdowns in the first half, and had carried for 128 yards when he was tackled during a routine rushing play by Kentucky linebacker Wesley Woodyard, and suffered a broken right tibia. The injury was so bad that ESPN announced before the end of the game that Bush would miss the remainder of the 2006 season.[6] The injury required the insertion of a steel rod and a second operation to facilitate the healing process.
Oakland Raiders
Michael Bush was chosen by the Oakland Raiders in the 2007 NFL Draft with the first pick of the fourth round. With his broken leg still hobbling him, he was declared Physically Unable to Perform for the entire 2007 season.[9]
After a two year hiatus, Bush finally returned to the football field in 2008. He was the Raiders’ third string halfback but saw some action because of injuries to Darren McFadden and Justin Fargas. He also filled in as a blocking fullback.
The high point thus far in his professional career was in a week 17 game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, when Bush rushed for 177 yards on 27 carries and 2 touchdowns to help Oakland deny Tampa a spot in the playoffs.[10]
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i want to add a coupla more items…
Bush had rehabbed during the 1st half of the 2007 season… he said he was ready to go… but a certain level of paranoia gripped the Raiders and there was too much concern that one Lamont “my bad” Jordan might sign with a division rival… and so a roster spot was not cleared for Bush…
does anyone want to bet that Bush was told to get rehabbed so we could activate??? think he was disappointed that it didn’t happen???
and the following draft we took McTiptoes… imagine Bush’s reaction… i’ll bet he wasn’t jumping for joy…
and so the following season Bush gets asked to play fullback…
the guy leaves high school looking for a gig as a quarterback…
ends up a halfback…
gets drafted as a halfback…
gets asked to sit while others play or get drafted…
gets asked to play fullback…
at least show the man some respect and offer him the MLB position…
i’m guessing he would kick some ass…
February 10th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
I ask you, my long-suffering fellow compatriots, why does this sound so familiar?
“There was a lot more I could have done off the field and in the film room that could have elevated my game to a different level,” Vick said. “I was complacent at the time, somewhat lazy, and I settled for mediocrity. I thought what I was doing was enough.”
[...]
“Just imagine what I could have been doing if I really would have been applying myself. That’s a regret I have.”
February 10th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Any of you guys wasting your time obsessing over the draft, as if plugging a few talent holes will right this listing ship, ought to have your heads examined. Al Davis has single-handedly wrecked this franchise.
February 10th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
I won’t be posting past 9pm anymore, because my favorite victim Vegas Raider just announced that he’s no longer here at that hour.
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Hey someone has to be the head of the class, lol.
Victim?? Of what, engaging in your stupidity too many times? Guilty as charged I guess.
February 10th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
“I think at this point, hopefully, they’ll just pick the best guy to be out there on the field,” said Gradkowski, who will be a restricted free agent. “Money’s not an issue, but I know in this business it kind of is when you invest a lot of money in someone. All I ask for is an opportunity to compete.”
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This guy is everything the Raiders need at the QB position. Of course that means he will probably end up starting for the Broncos.
February 10th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
I don’t think Al Davis ever runs a fair QB competition.
February 10th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
Vegas Raider,
Shaun Hill said the right things too. You are setting yourself up for disappointment man. I know its been bad around here when it comes to QBs….but simply because JaDavis is terrible doesn’t mean that Gradkowski is the sure fire answer.
San Fran thought JT O’Sullivan and Shaun Hill was the answer because of a flash……
Gradkowski will sign here for the league minimum because this is THE ONLY SHOT he has to start in this league.
I don’t hate the guy. But 2 games does not make a season.
Those flaws that Cleveland, Tampa and St. Louis saw will rear its ugly head when D.Coordinators plan for him.,
February 10th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
A true QB competition goes far beyond the practice field.
Since none of our QB’s are really that talented, and spare me the calls for how talented the “chosen one” is, the job should go to the hardest worker and who the teammates rally around more.
We need leaders to try to fight the evils of Al Davis. Annointed talents have gotten us where the last 20 years? In the toilet.
February 10th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
I HOPE U IDIOTIC MIKE VICK LOVERS READ THIS
http://ballhype.com/story/michael-vick-admits-to-being-lazy-during-his-time-in/
February 10th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
SnB,
I admit that I am probably a little too high on the hog with Bruce, but it comes with the territory when we have been as crappy as we have been lately.
I think Bruce is the perfect guy to right the ship for a few years, maybe fight for a playoff spot a year or two, and than pass the torch on to the next talented youngster.
Wouldn’t Russell have benefitted from watching a true hard-working vet who had control of the offense? Bruce can do that for the next guy.
And please, whatever Tampa, St Louis and Cleveland do, I AM PERFECTLY OK WITH DOING THE OPPOSITE.
February 10th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
OR MAYBE JRUSS NEEDS TO. WHY DONT THUGS LIKE VICK HELP YOUNG GUYS LIKE JRUSS OUT ?
February 10th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
Vegas Raider,
The right answer for Al Davis to bring in talented players. I’ve been down the Gradkowski type road before….seen it too many times.
Got to have legit talent….that means the mental & physical capability…..not guys that are last shot “best of the worst” types.
Look, Gradkowski deserves the chance to compete. But let’s not treat him like the Colts or Patriots treat Manning or Brady. Gradkowski is just another QB on the roster as far as I am concerned. He should be on the same level with Losman, Frye, JaDavis and whoever they HOPEFULLY bring in to compete.
If Gradkowski can beat those guys out cleanly….then I will be behind him 100%
But no QB on this roster deserves anything but a chance….
February 10th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Al Davis is going to start whoever HE wants at QB, regardless of how the competition goes.
February 10th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
Didn’t Bruce beat all those guys out last year?
Why is he on the same level as Jamarcus and Frye? He did more with his opportunity, just like Mike Bush.
To me the Bruce argument is the same as the Bush argument. Play the best player, and both of those are the best at their position.
Someone has to take the first snap of the first practice. Who do you want it to be?
February 10th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
I just don’t see Gradkowski as being big and strong enough to lean on.
His pedigree says scrub.
They’re going to have to bring in some more competition.
February 10th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Yes only in Raiderland would pedigree be more important than performance.
I’m for more competition, but I want the winner of the 2009 competition to be back on the roster.
If he can’t hold up, he can’t hold up, and that will work itself out. He has been hurt only once in his career, and has gotten his azz kicked every stop he has been.
He is bigger than Brees. Drew got hurt with the Chargers and they decided he wasn’t big and strong enough to lean on. How did that work out?
February 10th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
Vegas,
Did he beat both of those guys last year. I would be more confident in handing the keys to Gradkowski if he gave me more games. I can’t make a decision on 2 outings….understand…QBs are hard to find.
Every year we are playing a guy that’s not it is one year lost developing someone that should be it.
Right now, no one on this roster has demonstrated that.
I say make it a competition. THat’s all. No declared starter, no QB gets the 1st rep unless its a coin flip….put these guys through the motion because right now the Oakland Raiders DO NOT HAVE AN NFL LEVEL STARTING QB ON THE ROSTER
February 10th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
A coin flip? WTF??
Sorry that is the lamest thing I have ever heard.
How about, whoever is at the facility the most, gets the first snap and than let the competition begin?
February 10th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
You can’t lose your job to injury, the old-saying goes.
IF, A BIG IF, Grads is on the roster, he should get the first snap. If he gets outplayed, by whoever, than he should be removed from a starter.
Someone has to be the guy from the beginning, and hope that guy, again whoever it is, can lead the pack from start to finish.
How many QB “competitions” around the league ever work out? You need to have the man, and you need that man to be the man. Not some flimsy he’s starting this week but who knows next week.
Why would you think something like that can be handled successfully in Oakland?
February 10th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
We need to use Bush more and use him here soon.
That dude is 26 going on 36. He has steel rods in his leg, is completely bald, asks out of games, and walks around with the grace of Bill Walton.
Whatever we can get from Bush, we better hurry up and get it before we find out he was born in the Domincan and is actually 32 years old.
February 10th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
here’s what’ll happen…
we trade him…
and then he starts really tearing up the league…
and especially us…
February 10th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Wouldn’t be the first time it would work out that way.
February 10th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Gradowski’s NFL “Performance” says scrub. Career 65 passer rating.
February 10th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
VR,
I have seen more one and two gm wonders to get pullued in by guys like Gradkowski. Lets watch him compete and outperform
February 10th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Just keep an open mind SnB, and hope Bruce can take the bull by the horns.
I believe he can.
February 10th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Man amazing photos
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1249885/New-World-Trade-Center-9-11-aerial-images-ABC-News.html
February 10th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
KoolKell,
My how the tide has turned eh? It wasn’t long ago we were all racist for stating the obvious “russell sucks”
Nothing like an ignorant braindead bigot like yourself agreeing with all us “racist” white guys.
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# KoolKell Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Al Davis is going to start whoever HE wants at QB, regardless of how the competition goes.
February 10th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
KoolKell,
My how the tide has turned eh? It wasn’t long ago we were all racist for stating the obvious “russell sucks”
Nothing like an ignorant braindead bigot like yourself agreeing with all us “racist” white guys.
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Stool Kell doesn’t hate white guys, his WIFE IS WHITE.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
“here’s what’ll happen…
we trade him…
and then he starts really tearing up the league…
and especially us…”
Ooooooohhh, i’m scared. The 32nd ranked passer in the league IN HIS THIRD YEAR is gonna somehow go to another team and all of a sudden start tearing it up.
Yeah….riiiighhht.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
lol…
Sure, teams are just lining up for a 300 lbs INT machine.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
Vegas, are you related to Gradkowski or are you just very attracted to him? I guess you like his shoulders or is his eyes. For crying out loud man cut it short will ya’ he’s OK he aint Drew freakin Bress……………..period
February 10th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Actually I agree with Vegas, I don’t care about what Gradkowitzki was in TB or CL, what matters to me is he showed the heart of a champion leading this offense. He gave this team a new meaning in a season highlighted by Jamarcus failures. Training camp should be open competition unless we trade for Mcnabb, if Jamarcus sucks in training camp can’t complete passes like last year, then Grad should start from week 1. Period.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
when did russell not complete passes in preseason?
You’re lying again.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
from the beginning Russell looked good in training camp. The Dallas game he looked good and he was impressive in all training camp games except the NO game. In the season opener he played well. We shoul’ve won that game the fact that we lost had nothing to do with him. The refs took away a TD to end the half and he brought us back late in the 4th to lead. And we didn’t hold it. He then won the KC game eventhough he played poorly.
The Oline deteriorated we couldn’t run and he couldn’t throw from that point on, he was throwing to two babies. Now he didn’t play well after that but he did win the Eagles game. And we definitely don’t win the Denver game without him. Now you guy’s can say what you want but those are facts jack.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
Russell was directly responsible for 3 out of the 5 wins we had. And that is a fact, he could’ve had 2 more.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
If the other two QB’s were so much better we should’ve won the rest of the games we played. But we didn’t did we?
February 10th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
BHP….
bwahhahaa, you are so full of it, you are the biggest fool of all, you must have been baptized in raider-kool-aid, because if you still think Russell has it, then Waow!!
I guess you also think that an overhead-projector is a fine and dandy modern equipment..
February 10th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
LMN, shut the hell up stupid. What about football do you know. Is the ball blown up or stuffed? What the line of scrimmage? How deep is the end zone?
Shutup fool!!!
February 10th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
wow, clever stuff… well I see you have the same brainpower as you hero JaFatty Russell…
February 10th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
As usual Priesttj, you’re one of the only guys on here that seems to get it. Vegas is either kidding with his worship of Gradkowski, or he’s fcking nuts! Don’t have anything against the guy. He performed the way a decent BACKUP QB should perform and that’s better than what we’ve had from that position in a few years. But he was limited and it showed. If the Bengals and Steelers don’t drop about six interceptions between them, we’re not even having this conversation. I reaaly like Grads because he made Garcia, who had become a major distraction, expendable. But all this talk about him as our starter neeeds to end. Russell has room for improvement like a lot of young players do. But as you stated earlier, he was a victim of circumstance last year. I think things will be much different this year.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
BHP…
LOL, still writing praises to you self… well god job..
February 11th, 2010 at 3:00 am
Let’s face it – if the Bengals don’t bungle a kickoff return and the Eagles had even halfway shown up to play, we’d have been looking at 3-13 instead of 5-11. Enough talk about Gradkowski! He is a serviceable #2, just like Matt Cassell, but he is not a legit #1. I still say that McClain is the guy we set our sights on in Round One; Ciron Black or Jason Fox (O-line) in Round Two; Round Three could be interesting because either Tony Pike or Dan Jefevour might be there, at QB. We could always bring in San Diego backup Whitehurst – I believe he has potential. Oh, and if Terence Cody gets drafted in the first round, he’ll be too exhausted to even make it up the stairs to the podium (unless they have a buffet!)
February 11th, 2010 at 5:09 am
djohnnyg Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
“here’s what’ll happen…
we trade him…
and then he starts really tearing up the league…
and especially us…”
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Ooooooohhh, i’m scared. The 32nd ranked passer in the league IN HIS THIRD YEAR is gonna somehow go to another team and all of a sudden start tearing it up.
Yeah….riiiighhht.
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valid comment if i were talking about Russell…
but… i was talking about Bush…
February 11th, 2010 at 5:24 am
Morning Nation!
February 11th, 2010 at 5:26 am
Dont worry guys….a RB that can only play 1 snap of the ball every 3 snaps will never tear us up,let alone the league
February 11th, 2010 at 5:40 am
Come on Fargas at best is mediocre and usually is awful, can barely catch the ball and then can’t make people miss, sick of Cable,Fargas and Dmac the only good rb we have is Bush so give him the ball. I’m Raider fan I care about winning that’s it so crash test dummy (which is the dumbest nickname ever) and his what 8 Career Td need to go.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 11th, 2010 at 5:42 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Seriously…3 days with the same post? Come on Jerry…Wake Up!!!
February 11th, 2010 at 5:47 am
At least the daily Cable “will he stay or will he go” rehashings stopped… You would think Jerry could spend a few minutes each day doing a position breakdown, maybe some draft ideas… nah its easier to let US do his job with our comments!
February 11th, 2010 at 5:51 am
GOOD MOR5NING SPORT’S FAN’S,4EVA,NOMOREFARGAS,O-LINEMAN,A RUNNINGBACK’S BEST FRIEND..
February 11th, 2010 at 6:00 am
Morning Dirt Lot…yes it is! And a qb
February 11th, 2010 at 6:05 am
A good morning to all.
February 11th, 2010 at 6:07 am
……don’t forget the fullback.
February 11th, 2010 at 6:10 am
Such haters amongst the Raider Nation for my man Bruce.
Makes me really scratch my head. I thought Just Win Baby was what we were all about, but apparently it’s just make excuses for why the most talented guy is getting outplayed.
Whatever.
February 11th, 2010 at 6:12 am
HEY HWNRDR,BUSH,FARGAS,DMAC,MARCUS ALLEN,BO JACKSON,NONE OF THESE GUY’S COULD PLAY BY THEMSELFS.WELL..MAYBE BO COULD !!!!
February 11th, 2010 at 6:17 am
Hey, Bo Knew everything!!!
Well, maybe what Gretzky said was right with his hockey skates…”Nah…”
February 11th, 2010 at 6:17 am
raidertbone Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 3:00 am
Let’s face it – if the Bengals don’t bungle a kickoff return and the Eagles had even halfway shown up to play, we’d have been looking at 3-13 instead of 5-11
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Nonsense.
In the Bengals game, we were the home team, and it was tied 17-17 heading into overtime if no fumble. Home teams win over 50% of all games, and over 50% of OT games. We were in the drivers seat, fumble or no fumble, and whenever the sports book put out an overtime line, the home teams is favored by 3.5 points usually.
Also in the Bengals game, we had two 80 yards TD drives. We had a whopping 4 all year.
February 11th, 2010 at 6:18 am
Bo Jackson……no yards,1 yard,2 yards,90 yards.
February 11th, 2010 at 6:19 am
Does anyone remember the Bo Jackson, Wayne Gretzky and Michael Jordon cartoon… lol that was AWESOME
February 11th, 2010 at 6:23 am
Vegas: for too long this team has went after the biggest, fastest & strongest. the guy with the most “potential”
for QB Al Davis wanted a guy who could chuck the football 70 yards and then drafted speedster to catch those passes. He probably never thought about the fact that Russell can’t throw an accurate pass or read a defense and Heyward-Bey can’t catch a cold!
I agree with you. If guys like Gradkowski & Watkins outplay Al Davis’ prized possessions Russell & DHB then so be it. play the guys that produce.
nothing has worked the past 7 years. time to shake things up and take a different approach.
Bruce Gradkowski will probably never reach 4000 yards or 30 TD’s in a season, but I think he’s good enough to get this football team 8 wins and that my friends is significant progress.
No. He hasn’t done enough to merit a fat contract. But he showed enough to deserve another crack at the starter gig in Oakland imo. Al Davis should do the same thing he did with LB Ricky Brown last year. slap a tender offer on him and if a team wants him they’ll have to up our offer and give us a 2nd rounder (never happen). that’ll pay him 1.5 million for 1 year. then he’d be an unrestricted free agent next year.
February 11th, 2010 at 6:24 am
VR,
I don’t think people are “hating” Gradkowski. I know I am not. Nor am I saying JaDavis should be the guy. I am just saying don’t go overboard with Gradkowski because he has several risk factors that point to him being nothing but a backup fringe player type.
Even JaDavis Russell played well in the last two games of 2008. That didn’t translate at all the next year. JT O’Sullivan flashed for San Fran…as did Shaun Hill….didn’t mean much….Seneca Wallace, a true backup, has given Seattle a couple of solid games here and there. How about Charlie Batch, another backup that’s flashed on occassion.
My instincts tell me Gradkowski is in that level of QB…not an Aaron Rogers or Matt Schaub or Eli Manning type….and right now that type of QB is what this team deserves…..not another game here, game there type of guy. Just because he yells and screams on the field, and JaDavis is in a coma, does not mean Gradkowksi should be the guy. Nor should Gradkowski be given the job just because JaDavis is awful.
The Raiders deserve a top tier QB. If that guy is not on the roster (most likely the case) then they better go find one or develop one.
February 11th, 2010 at 6:33 am
Rockstar,
The Raiders won’t have to worry about anyone making offers for Gradkowski. Some team might make an offer to compete for a backup position. But not a starter position.
Gradkowski is going to stay here regardless because of the wretched “Al Davis” inspired roster here. This is the only place that Gradkowski has a chance to compete to be the man or at worst be inserted at some point early in the season.
He ain’t going anywhere so stop all the RFA tender talk for Gradkowski.
Again, just because JaDavis is awful…does not make this guy the answer. Please everyone hear that!
I doubt Buffalo goes into the season with Ryan Fitzpatrick….LOL
February 11th, 2010 at 6:34 am
I don’t want the Raiders to give Bruce the Jamarcus treatment, that it is his job even he falls flat on his face.
But top-tier QB’s are not often available, or at least easily available, and sometimes you have to take a little bit of a leap. Matt Schaub had a few good games and some good preseason games, but the Texans traded for him even though he had played less than what Bruce has so far. Drew Brees was having another shoulder surgery when the Saints took a flyer on him.
I’m NOT saying Bruce is off those calibers, but franchise QB’s are difficult to find, so until we find one Bruce is the best man for the job. He’s cheap, he wants to be here, he is a hard-worker, his teammates respond to him, and he did have a few flashes, while being saddled with the same crappy O-line, Justin Fargas, unproven WR’s and Tom Cable’s crappy play-calling.
February 11th, 2010 at 6:35 am
4evaRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 5:26 am
Dont worry guys….a RB that can only play 1 snap of the ball every 3 snaps will never tear us up,let alone the league
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Bush sure does make that 1 snap count.
Better than watching Fargas run into a pile for 2 yds every carry. Run right 1yd….run left 2yds….pass incomplete….punt
I’ll take Bush….run right 3yds…run left 25yds….lol
February 11th, 2010 at 6:35 am
The Raiders deserve a top tier QB. If that guy is not on the roster (most likely the case) then they better go find one or develop one.
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S&B: yesterday you were clamoring for a veteran presence to compete. then I posted a list of the guys available. you didn’t say who you wanted, but said we may have to trade for a QB
what QB would you trade for and what would we have to give up in order to get him?
I seriously doubt we’re going to draft another QB with Russell on the roster, unless it’s somebody like Tebow in the 4th or 5th round. a boom or bust pick like Mike Bush was in 2007
“develop one” ? at this point Gradkowski, Frye & Losman are all still relatively young and every one of them is known for their hard working mentality. so are you saying that Russell can be developed and Gradkowski & others cannot? I think a student of the game type of QB would be easier to develop than a fat slob with a rocket arm. call me crazy
February 11th, 2010 at 6:36 am
Hey I know I am in the minority on here, but I think the guy is more talented than he get’s credit for. His accuracy is off the charts, he is mobile, and he has a high football IQ.
I do feel like this guy sometimes when people bash Bruce:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc
February 11th, 2010 at 6:39 am
VR,
Matt Schaub was well thought of as he backed up Vick. However they evaluate players…Schaub had a lot of trade value for whatever reason. They saw in him the skill set that made him a valuable player.
Brees had the busted shoulder. If not for that, he would have had several suitors. The question for him wasn’t base talent, the question was could his shoulder hold up. And even with that, the Dolphins and Saints were interested in him.
Gradkowski doesn’t come close to either scenerio. Gradkowski was cut from three bad teams and was available for nothing……and he was healthy.
February 11th, 2010 at 6:41 am
VR,
Wow bro…..wow
February 11th, 2010 at 6:42 am
at this point Gradkowski, Frye & Losman are all still relatively young and every one of them is known for their hard working mentality. so are you saying that Russell can be developed and Gradkowski & others cannot? I think a student of the game type of QB would be easier to develop than a fat slob with a rocket arm. call me crazy
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I will call you very sane. Bruce is like 16 months older than Jamarcus. Jamarcus was a freshman when Bruce was a sophmore in college, and Bruce has started about half as many games as Russell.
But for whatever reason, Russell can still be developed, but the book is closed on Bruce, he is what he is.
Again, makes me scratch my head.
February 11th, 2010 at 6:42 am
A joke SnB a joke.
If you can’t make fun of yourself who can you make fun of?
February 11th, 2010 at 6:43 am
Rockstar,
What Chad Pennington? Maybe Mark Bulger? Is Sage Rosenfelds available? Even Donavan McNabb…ok that’s reaching or even a mature Mike Vick….
I am not saying any of the above, except McNabb, woud be a sure fire starter here. But at least there would be some competition I can feel comfortable with.
February 11th, 2010 at 6:44 am
He ain’t going anywhere so stop all the RFA tender talk for Gradkowski.
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S&B: I’m sure you know this, but I’ll say it anyways.
with restricted FA’s you have a few options.
1. make a tender offer
- the player can sign it quickly and get in the fold or wait to see if another team offers more (at which point the Raiders could choose to match or let him walk)
2. don’t make a tender offer
-after a certain point, the player becomes an unrestricted free agent and he’s fair game for any NFL team
so you are suggesting that by letting Bruce hit UFA status we can get him cheaper?
or we could slap the lowest possible tender on him and get nothing in return if a team wanted him. Remember losing Chris Carr to the Titans?
1.5 million for a QB that gives you the best chance to win games is dirt cheap S&B. and for all those people saying he’s not durable I ask you this question…
When has Al Davis ever shied away from injured or even injury prone players? NEVER.
February 11th, 2010 at 6:45 am
JaMarcus will be named as the #1 for next year.It doesn’t matter what Gradkowski does,Russell was Al’s pick and he’ll never admit to it being a mistake.
February 11th, 2010 at 6:45 am
vegas raider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 6:42 am
A joke SnB a joke.
If you can’t make fun of yourself who can you make fun of?
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Oh don’t get me wrong, I thought it was hilarious. I just can’t believe someone created that clip. That had to be something staged, then again maybe not.
But point well taken
February 11th, 2010 at 6:45 am
If he was cut by some good teams I would read more into it.
But the Rams, Cleveland and Tampa??? Aren’t they picking ahead of us this year in the draft?
February 11th, 2010 at 6:45 am
YOUR CRAZY ROCKSTAR..
February 11th, 2010 at 6:50 am
“Gradkowski set the record for throwing more passes in NFL history before suffering a second career interception(200)”
He’s a NFL record-holder, LOL
February 11th, 2010 at 6:50 am
of course that was staged.That was a guy dressed as a girl,I 4get his name right now but that clip has been around 4a couple years now
February 11th, 2010 at 6:51 am
S&B: Gradkowski is an injury waiting to happen, but Pennington & Bulger aren’t? please explain.
Vick is about as accurate as Russell. still an upgrade because he’s a hard worker now (didn’t used to be) and he’s a dual running threat. but do we really want PETA protesting Raider games? It’s bad enough N.O.W. wants Tom Cable suspended, isn’t it?
nobody knows if McNabb is even on the trade block yet. he got a huge pay raise last offseason and led his team to the playoffs. went to the Pro Bowl
Rosenfels = career backup. Would he even beat out Tarvaris Jackson? He couldn’t be out 40 year old Favre who missed all of camp & OTA’s
February 11th, 2010 at 6:54 am
SnB,
Say what you will about Brees and Schaub, and I am not saying you are wrong, but none of those guys went on the road and won offensive player of the week the year before they hit the FA street.
My point on the Brees injury is that QB’s get hurt at times, but they can bounce back. Brees had the injury-prone label on him, and has stayed injury free as of late (thanks to a much better O-line than what we have).
Bruce doesn’t have the same injury history. Can he be injury-prone? Sure, but I wouldn’t go there yet.
February 11th, 2010 at 6:55 am
VR,
All I am saying is he was cut by three of the worst teams in the NFL in quick succession. Why? Maybe they didn’t give him a fair shake. Ok, that’s fine…or maybe they just saw something that was a fatal flaw.
I don’t know and you don’t either. That’s why I am not excited about this guy. But don’t interpret my lack of enthusiasm for Gradkowski and as enthusiasm or support for JaDavis.
We are in BAD shape at the QB position. I personally would like to see a deal done to get a veteran in here to push these bottom feeders we have on the roster. Even Pennington would be a welcome add….he’s played at a high level, prepares like a coach and has won before. At least he would push and teach at the same time.
So Gradkowski, JaDavis, Losman and Frye were in a room toghether and…….doesn’t that sound like the beginning of a bad joke? Well it is because that the offseason roster…..I want to win man.
February 11th, 2010 at 6:56 am
4eva, Chris Crocker is the name, and for whatever reason that popped into my head when I was pulling off my “Leave Bruce Alone!!!” tirade last night.
February 11th, 2010 at 6:57 am
Brees was an NFL starter and played at decent level. There was plenty of “tape” on him as they say.
Shaub was well thought of by a lot of people. Houston gave up a lot to get him. Demonstrates the guy had value around the league by people who get paid to evaluate these guys.
Gradkowski was a camp cut in St. Louis
February 11th, 2010 at 6:59 am
Rockstar,
I am just saying bring in some damn competition. Right now saying Gradkowski is the best of what we got is flawed.
Would you pick your girlfriend or wife that way? I wouldn’t. If my choices were that limited, I am going to bring in some more choices
February 11th, 2010 at 7:01 am
Rockstar,
All I am saying about the RFA for gradkowski is that its not that big a deal.
Chris Carr? oh well….Bruce Gradkowski? oh well.
THe 2 games he played carries no value with me. To me I feel the same way about him now as I did in preseason last year.
the only thing elevating this guy is that JaDavis is such a joke right now. Had this been any other team, no way the fans, coaches or analysts would be comfortable saying BRUCE GRADKOWSKI is the number 1 guy.
Come on man
February 11th, 2010 at 7:02 am
That’s why I am not excited about this guy. But don’t interpret my lack of enthusiasm for Gradkowski and as enthusiasm or support for JaDavis.
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Believe me, I don’t. I know you just want to win, and hoping that Bruce turns this thing around is quite the leap.
We have to be respectable before we are good. Bruce can get us to respectability until he can pass the torch onto the next potential franchise QB.
I believe in continuity in the NFL is important at the HC and QB position. What would bringing Chad P do? You know he isn’t going to be here long, and has been bounced all around this league and been hurt way more than Bruce.
I don’t have these great visions of winning Super Bowls right now, I just want some hard-working guys that will fight tooth and nail to get to .500 to start, than we can start talking about trading for a McNabb or something like that.
February 11th, 2010 at 7:04 am
Now maybe Gradkowski becomes another Kurt Warner type story….maybe…
I would say Tony Romo, but Dallas believed in him from day 1….so we will see.
I think Gradkowski has a lot of Garcia in him….he may need to go to Canada to refine his game…
JaDavis needs to go back to Mobile and relax and enjoy his money.
February 11th, 2010 at 7:05 am
the only thing elevating this guy is that JaDavis is such a joke right now
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The only thing??? I’m sure that’s a big part of it, but did you not see the Steelers and Bengals game? We actually had long TD drives, a passing offense, and an ability to come from behind in 4th quarters.
And in the Bengals and Steelers game…2 sacks combined. The guy gets the most out of his teammates.
February 11th, 2010 at 7:07 am
VR,
Right now Gradkowski’s biggest competition is Al Davis. I am not comfortable with that.
A proven vet, even on the decline, would at least push the players and teach them something about preparation etc…soemone that’s had success before. We have none of that right now. none….that seems to be a recipe for another 5-11 season.
Remember in training camp, Gradkowski didn’t light it up. In fact, Frye was the best QB in camp. That could happen again.
February 11th, 2010 at 7:10 am
vegas raider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 7:05 am
the only thing elevating this guy is that JaDavis is such a joke right now
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The only thing??? I’m sure that’s a big part of it, but did you not see the Steelers and Bengals game? We actually had long TD drives, a passing offense, and an ability to come from behind in 4th quarters.
And in the Bengals and Steelers game…2 sacks combined. The guy gets the most out of his teammates.
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2 games…that’s it. 2 games…and the Steelers lost to the Browns, Chiefs amoung others. Look, that’s great that Gradkowski performed in those 2 games…but Shaun Hill had a some good games too. So did Tyler Thigpen.
Come on Vegas….I would just say let the best guy win. I wouldn’t sit here and trumpet Gradkowski with any enthusiasm. The guy is just another guy on a hopelessly bad team. To suggest Gradkowski can get us to 8-8 is a HUGE
February 11th, 2010 at 7:10 am
Kurt Warner and Tony Romo are great examples.
Both were undrafted, Warner was released and out of the NFL for awhile, and neither played much at all their first few years.
Goes to show that all these guys in the leauge are talented. Warner and Romo both have great arms and are deadly accurate, yet undrafted.
If you are willing to work hard, be a team leader, and not turn the ball over, you can win games in the NFL. Doesn’t matter if you were the first pick or the last pick, or not picked at all.
February 11th, 2010 at 7:10 am
……..LEAP
February 11th, 2010 at 7:12 am
THe 2 games he played carries no value with me. To me I feel the same way about him now as I did in preseason last year.
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Bruce showed leadership, dedication and poise last year when given the opportunity. he displayed a passion for the game and produced on the football field. what more did you expect out of him? 300 yards and 3 TD’s for 4 weeks straight?
if none of those attributes “have value” in your eyes you might as well change your name to Al Davis, because everybody else in the world wants those things from their starting QB…
February 11th, 2010 at 7:13 am
VR,
Tony Romo was well thought of by DAllas that they kept him and developed him with a purpose. Gradkowski was cut 3x in four years.
Kurt Warner is a fairy tale…..Al Davis crushes fairy tales with his poor coaching decisions and lack of team chemistry/culture.
Kurt Warner is winning the lottery and happens once a generation….I am not resting my hope on a lottery ticket.
Hell, you live in vegas. You should understand the odds game better than anyone
February 11th, 2010 at 7:13 am
I’m trumpeting SnB. What the hell else can I trumpet about with this team?
He gave us a flicker of hope, and I am chasing that flicker. Surely I can be in for a huge letdown, but what part of the Raiders hasn’t been a letdown of late?
February 11th, 2010 at 7:15 am
Rockstar,
Not 2 games….maybe 8 games or so….but not 2
There are hundreds of QBs that have done what Gradkowski just did.
Remember Scott Mitchell for the Dolphins?
Frank Reich or Rob Johnson?
JT O’Sullivan and Shaun Hill
Sean King in Tampa
Trent Dilfer
Even Ryan Fitzpatrick gave Buffalo a little spark.
None of these guys could really make it work.
Gradkowski is in the above class. He’s got to fight claw scatch and perform for me to raise a glass to this journeyman
February 11th, 2010 at 7:16 am
……”but what part of the Raiders hasn’t been a letdown of late?”………
punting…
February 11th, 2010 at 7:16 am
All right let’s meet in the middle here, because we can go round and round all day.
Let’s resign him CHEAPLY, and than see if he improves. He is still young, and surely can improve.
If he doesn’t show much improvement, than he is the journeyman you say he is. If he does improve, which he should being only 27 years old and heading into his prime, than let’s see what he can do, even if it is with a relatively short leash.
Deal?
February 11th, 2010 at 7:17 am
vegas raider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 7:13 am
I’m trumpeting SnB. What the hell else can I trumpet about with this team?
He gave us a flicker of hope, and I am chasing that flicker. Surely I can be in for a huge letdown, but what part of the Raiders hasn’t been a letdown of late?
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I am saying put the trumpets down. For the entire team. Its a big mess. Don’t take off your analytical thinking cap. Look at this situation for what it is. Don’t build up something that isn’t there.
February 11th, 2010 at 7:17 am
ZINNGGGERRRR!!!
Nice one Neil!!
February 11th, 2010 at 7:18 am
The guy gets the most out of his teammates.
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great point Vegas. You want a QB who will demand the best from his supporting cast. Guys really rallied around him and you could tell when he got injured it really took the wind out of their sails. like losing Gallery & Schilens
I don’t understand the logic behind NOT giving the best QB in 2009 at least a chance to compete in 2010. To me, that is “flawed” S&B
this team quit on Russell. even Tom Cable did.
you know why? because JaWalrus quit on this team the day he signed his contract in Alameda
Nnamdi gave Huff a piggy bank as a joke because he was stealing Al Davis’ money.
Who else on offense is gonna give JR a piggy bank? Justin Fargas? LOL
February 11th, 2010 at 7:20 am
vegas raider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 7:16 am
All right let’s meet in the middle here, because we can go round and round all day.
Let’s resign him CHEAPLY, and than see if he improves. He is still young, and surely can improve.
If he doesn’t show much improvement, than he is the journeyman you say he is. If he does improve, which he should being only 27 years old and heading into his prime, than let’s see what he can do, even if it is with a relatively short leash.
Deal?
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I agree with everything except the part “which he should”….
I am going to throw cool water on any exuberance after 7 years of disaster and bad decisions.
I agree…let’s just watch….but no one better be saying “sign Gradkowski to a long-term deal…or “we have to lock this kid up” and so on….we still need to bring in another QB and we have to have an open competition.
The QB position is the weakest spot on this team right now with the roster set as of today.
February 11th, 2010 at 7:20 am
LoL!!!
I was going to ask you if you thought we should take an O-lineman with our first pick!!!
February 11th, 2010 at 7:23 am
Unfortunately, Grads is the best option we have right now because I really have HIGH doubts that Russell will come back ready to light it up this year! Even if he doesn’t start…he is a good guy to have around because of his leadership abilities! He said it himself…I support Russell and he supports me because we are on the same team!!!
February 11th, 2010 at 7:23 am
Rockstar,
2 games man….2 games….2 games on a team that is horrible. 2 games…..
last year the raiders made the mistake of handing Cable and JaDavis the keys after 2 or 3 games last year….didn’t translate.
This needs to be thought out and competition needs to be added.
2 games don’t me jack….in the NFL.
Charlie Frye gave Cleveland a couple of games…didn’t stop them from cutting his backside immediately after the 1st week.
Bruce is no more a leader than anyone else. He was replacing a terrible player….that does not make him a good player.
Ok, I am done with this topic
February 11th, 2010 at 7:26 am
Is Hackett still around to coach QBs? If so, I believe Gradkowski has hope. If Hackett sees enough potential to bring him from TB, then he could conceivably grow into a top level QB. After all, Hackett did wonders with Montana, Gannon and Southwick.
February 11th, 2010 at 7:27 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 7:23 am
Unfortunately, Grads is the best option we have right now because I really have HIGH doubts that Russell will come back ready to light it up this year! Even if he doesn’t start…he is a good guy to have around because of his leadership abilities! He said it himself…I support Russell and he supports me because we are on the same team!!!
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Leadership is only 1 piece. Talent matters too. Othewise Tebow would be the 1st overall pick this year. I have not seen enough of Gradkowski to say he’s got the talent…..3 cuts in 4 years tells me something is wrong….
Picking between Gradkowski and the rest of the players is like picking between a car that needs 2,000 in work and one that need 1800 in work. They both need a lot of work.
February 11th, 2010 at 7:27 am
Not 2 games….maybe 8 games or so….but not 2
There are hundreds of QBs that have done what Gradkowski just did.
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how in the world can you fault Bruce for that?
Cable & Davis didn’t pull the plug on JR until midway through Week 10. at that point Gradkowski took over a 2-7 football team. he started 4 games and was injured half way through the 4th one. Can you blame a guy for get injured? With this terrible OL it’s almost like you have to be 300 lbs like Russell NOT to get injured.
so Gradkowski throws twice as many TD’s in half as many games and he doesn’t even get a second chance because of an injury and an ownership love affair with a strong armed QB?
a chance S&B. Russell will get one and we all know that. please explain why Bruce doesn’t deserve a chance.
February 11th, 2010 at 7:28 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 7:26 am
Is Hackett still around to coach QBs? If so, I believe Gradkowski has hope. If Hackett sees enough potential to bring him from TB, then he could conceivably grow into a top level QB. After all, Hackett did wonders with Montana, Gannon and Southwick.
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Who knows. But Hue Jackson is a QB coach in his own right. Also, why is Hackett bumbing around Oakland? He has all this talent, shouldn’t he be in demand somewhere instead of carrying water around Almeada?
February 11th, 2010 at 7:31 am
Does anyone in here have ESPN insider?
McShay has his mock draft out, and you have to be an insider to view it.
He has 4 of the top 8 picks being O-lineman, which I would imagine means we would be picking one.
February 11th, 2010 at 7:31 am
Rockstar,
Not saying it was Bruce’s fault he only played 2 games…the problem is he only played 2 games.
Also not saying he doesn’t deserve a 2nd chance. Just that he does not go into camp like he is the team’s equivalent to Philip Rivers or Aaron Rogers. Gradkowski goes into camp as one of 4 QBs looking for an opportunity.
As for JaDavis, I am no supporter of what he’s done. I am trying to take JaDavis out of the equation. right now, JaDavis being so awful is biasing the QB position analysis.
I still think others should be brought in to compete or win the job
February 11th, 2010 at 7:33 am
I don’t want Jackson spending too much time coaching the QBs. It will detract from the bigger challenge of calling better plays and getting production from the whole squad, especially RBs and WRs.
February 11th, 2010 at 7:34 am
Rockstar,
Gradkowski started 3 gms, appeared in 4 and was injured halfway through the 4th game.
He played a total of 3 full games. Again, not enough to just hand the keys to. Not the QB position
February 11th, 2010 at 7:34 am
Yes S&B, talent is the other piece. But…like Rockstar has mentioned…why not give him a chance this year? Not sure why he got cut everywhere else, and you’re right, something may be wrong…but you have to admit…he did have the team playing for him and he brought fire into the huddle! I did mention that “unfortunately” he is the best we got right now!
February 11th, 2010 at 7:34 am
why is Hackett bumbing around Oakland? He has all this talent, shouldn’t he be in demand somewhere instead of carrying water around Almeada?
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Hue Jackson was hired as OC, not QB Coach.
it’s possible for Jackson & Hackett to coexist.
but i’ve never heard of a team having an OC and a Passing Game Coordinator (Tollner)…
Chicago expressed interest in Hackett, but he’s still under contract in Oakland. Can’t make a lateral move unless Davis fires him. they hired Martz for the OC job
February 11th, 2010 at 7:35 am
Another thing with playing Bruce, or at least anyone but Jamarcus, it really helps to evaluate the players around him.
Tough to evaluate the rest of the offense when Russell is having one of his wretched games.
February 11th, 2010 at 7:36 am
Hey Vegas…last I looked, it was Anthony Smith OT…I think…
February 11th, 2010 at 7:36 am
I predict Tollner will be a scout or with another team.
February 11th, 2010 at 7:38 am
I don’t want Jackson spending too much time coaching the QBs. It will detract from the bigger challenge of calling better plays and getting production from the whole squad, especially RBs and WRs.
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Hackett & Southwick will make sure the QB’s are ready to roll.
our RB & WR coaches are complete jokes. reassign Tollner to coach the WR’s and get a real RB Coach please!
shoot. we might as well go re-sign Louis Rankin and let Justin Fargas coach the RB’s
February 11th, 2010 at 7:38 am
Didn’t we draft an Anthony Smith in the first round before? And wasn’t he a colossal jerk?
Oh well, I would prefer a LB, but as long as he is good, we need help just about everywhere so I’m on board.
February 11th, 2010 at 7:42 am
Gradkowski goes into camp as one of 4 QBs looking for an opportunity.
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S&B: thats all we’re saying …
so why do you keep p1ssing on the fire?
we’re not going to draft a QB or trade for one while Russell is still on the roster. that would be saying “Russell is a bust” and Al Davis isn’t ready to give up on him yet. That is why Hue Jackson was hired
February 11th, 2010 at 7:42 am
In 1990 I believe.
February 11th, 2010 at 7:47 am
DE Anthony Smith was a 1st round pick in 1990. you’re right Neil
58 sacks in 7 seasons with the Raiders. solid
February 11th, 2010 at 7:48 am
Trade DMAC for Anthony Smith!
February 11th, 2010 at 7:50 am
If you can find him Bo.Didn’t he go missing all week then show up on Saturday ?
February 11th, 2010 at 7:52 am
Time to really dig deep into this computer…You all have a good day!!!
February 11th, 2010 at 7:53 am
Todd Mcshay is a tool. Mike Mayock already stated last month that DT Mccoy is the number 1 pick of this year and has way more upside then Suh. Guess what? Mcshay goes and copies his mock. Mayock is the best when it comes to scouting personal.
February 11th, 2010 at 7:56 am
I don’t care if we draft the 5th best DT at #8 overall.
he’s still going to be an improvement over Gerard Warren or Tommy Kelly!
February 11th, 2010 at 7:57 am
I’m off too.
Have a great Thursday everyone.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:00 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 7:42 am
Gradkowski goes into camp as one of 4 QBs looking for an opportunity.
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S&B: thats all we’re saying …
so why do you keep p1ssing on the fire?
we’re not going to draft a QB or trade for one while Russell is still on the roster. that would be saying “Russell is a bust” and Al Davis isn’t ready to give up on him yet. That is why Hue Jackson was hired
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No, I am hearing he’s the starter and he’s going to bring this, that and the other. To me, Gradkowski is just another QB on the roster. That’s all.
Also, in the games he appeared in he did well against Cincy & Pittsburgh…but Dallas wasnt good and Washington wasn’t looking all that good either….so I am neutral to slightly negative when you factor in his background.
Honestly, the guy that intrigues me the most is JP Losman. Former 1st round pick that was in a difficult situation, did what it took to try and resurrect his career and is looking for an opportunity. He’s a darkhorse in my opinion.
Regardless, Al DAvis will probably end up making one of his strategic decisions anyway
February 11th, 2010 at 8:01 am
Ndamukong Suh (DT Nebraska)
Gerald McCoy (DT Oklahoma)
Rolando McClain (ILB Alabama)
Brian Price (DT UCLA)
Brandon Spikes (ILB Florida)
Lamarr Houston (DT Texas)
Dan Williams (DT Tennessee)
Derrick Morgan (DE Georgia Tech)
get one. reach or not. instant impact
February 11th, 2010 at 8:02 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 7:56 am
I don’t care if we draft the 5th best DT at #8 overall.
he’s still going to be an improvement over Gerard Warren or Tommy Kelly!
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We go get DAn Williams at the #8 spot. that gives us the big body up the middle.
I still would like to see Oakland go big for one of the RFA linebackers in Ruud, Ryans or Dansby. WE need someone in the middle that already knows how to play given our simplistic scheme and poor overall coaching and soft to the touch DTs.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:03 am
Rockstar,
After the Darius-Heyward Bey and Mike Mitchell picks…there is no such thing as a reach in Oakland
February 11th, 2010 at 8:05 am
Figuring out a pattern in here. There’s a few people who constantly…
a) Personally attack critics of the team.
b) Pretend they have a great life, either via social life (partying), or financial.
Anyone else notice?
February 11th, 2010 at 8:07 am
Good morning to all my dear friends in here,…seeing you all after time away, well its just priceless,..how is everyone?
February 11th, 2010 at 8:08 am
There’s one thing you guys don’t factor when you compare Raider players to players on other teams that have improved and became valuable. Those teams don’t have an owner who ruins everything.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:12 am
Losman is very intriguing to me. He is going to be a gamer for sure. What worries me, is we have the same problems Buffalo had that made Losman look terrible. A porous Oline and Subpar receivers.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:13 am
RFA linebackers Ruud, Ryans & Dansby will break the bank and stay put.
Barrett Ruud is the only one I imagine who is trying to take the first flight out of Tampa. They are in worse shape than we are!
maybe Bo Ruud is available? LOL
February 11th, 2010 at 8:15 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 8:05 am
Figuring out a pattern in here. There’s a few people who constantly…
a) Personally attack critics of the team.
b) Pretend they have a great life, either via social life (partying), or financial.
Anyone else notice?
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You sir, are a complete idiot.
In my perspective (from my jacuzzi), the Raiders will be dominant in 2010. Super Bowl baby! The party at my place will be epic…Cristal, hoes, etc.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:17 am
Full court press on Ruud then….we need someone that already knows the position of MLB.
With Warren and Kelly upfront, shedding blockers is a way of life….filling pourous gaps is a way of life….so get someone that can play the position.
I am telling you…we put a rookie there, with the Raider scheme and subpar coaching and Warren & KElly upfront….he will get destroyed
February 11th, 2010 at 8:19 am
You just give me warm and fuzzies, Bobbo, when you gush like that.
You tart, you.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:21 am
Rams to be sold to Illinois businessman
new owner is a Rams fan who is committed to keeping the team in St. Louis
he will purchase the 60 percent of the Rams owned by Chip Rosenbloom and Lucia Rodriguez.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:22 am
My doctor, well one of them, told me that I suffer from seperation anxiety,..and suggested I never leave this blog.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:23 am
saw a Mock over on FoxSports this morning that had the Raiders picking the QB from Ole Miss in the 3rd round. Didn’t care about that one way or the other but I did see that Oakland has two third-rounders at 69 and 85, I didn’t realize that.
There is hope. O-line in ‘10!
February 11th, 2010 at 8:25 am
I just sent myself a Vermont Teddy Bear,..I want the others here at the shelter to not worry about me.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:26 am
Bob, we already know you never leave this blog. For raider games, Tahoe, the mall, or anything else. At least John Tesh responds to your DMs…
February 11th, 2010 at 8:27 am
Lonetree,..didnt ya heard me?…I told all you CEO`s that Russell is going to have a pro bowl year in 2010,..get over it!
February 11th, 2010 at 8:27 am
by the way, whatndahell are the p.m. fornicators MR and Lil’ Rico doing here mixed in with the a.m. crew?
sad to see.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:27 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 7:34 am
but i’ve never heard of a team having an OC and a Passing Game Coordinator (Tollner)…
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No other team has as dysfunctional a passing game as the Raiders, nor as big a returning disaster as the offensive (literally) package as the Raiders.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:27 am
Thanks Bo.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:31 am
Trade DMAC for a p.m. fornicator!
February 11th, 2010 at 8:31 am
Jevon Snead…..doesn’t excite me much.
He had some pretty awful moments at times this year. I wasn’t a big fan of Zak Robinson, but he looked pretty good in the Senior Bowl and I wouldn’t mind taking a flyer on him in the 4th or 5th round.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:32 am
Norco Bob Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 8:27 am
Thanks Bo.
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(you know I’m just making it look like we aren’t the same person, for MR)
February 11th, 2010 at 8:32 am
Dude, you live in Vegas,..Im sure theres other things to excite you then a mid level draft pick out of Ole Miss. Geez.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:34 am
I love ol MR,..maybe he will meet me today, say 5:30ish at Louie`s?…Mather and hwy 50…cool bar, live music, lots of skanky broads,…and for me its just off the hwy.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:34 am
LOL……..
When you live here for over 6 years, it loses it’s luster a little.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Norco, Jerry betrayed your trust and started circulating this e-mail he got from your head doctor:
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TO: jmcdonald@bayareanewsgroup.com
FROM: DR. John Walker, DO, MD, IMG-Alameda, California
Dear Mr. McDonald,
It has come to my attention that one of my patients, known to you as N0rco Bob, has been banned from posting comments on your Inside the Oakland Raiders blog.
Mr. N0rco Bob suffers from a wide variety of psychotic disorders, ranging from Delusional Disorder-Grandiose Type, which causes him to have an inflated sense of self worth, to Dependant Personality Disorder characterized by an over-reliance on others that leads to submissive and clinging behavior and fears of separation.
As of right now, Mr. N0rco Bob’s Delusional Disorder-Grandiose Type is dominant, however, it is my professional opinion that if you ban him from posting his delusional comments about his relationship with the Oakland Raiders on your blog you could push his Dependant Personality Disorder to the forefront, causing him to, perhaps, do harm to himself or others. He also suffers from a mild form of Panic Disorder that in combination with his feelings of separation from your blog may cause him to have a sudden onset of heart palpitations, chest pain, choking sensations, dizziness, and feelings of unreality.
As his treating MD I request that you lift the ban from Mr. N0rco Bob, both for his safety and the safety of others. Mr. N0rco Bob is one of the saddest cases I have run across in my 30 plus years of practice in the field of psychiatrics. Years of research and studies may be ruined by your actions.
Yours Truly,
Dr. John Walker, DO, MD, IMG-Alameda, California
February 11th, 2010 at 8:36 am
You still coming to the Rio in March?
I am excited about the chance to meet Mr. Norco Bob. First rounds on me.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Bo, you’re such a cool Raider fan. You’re not one of the dumb ones. You’re unique. You’re one of the few Davis supporters who’s also smart. And, your whole campaign is working. You’re driving away the critics. Just wanted to congratulate you. Of course, the Raiders still suck, too. But let’s not get hung up on the negatives.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:38 am
Ya well whenever that NASCAR race is….by the way, I see the Maloofs once in a while at ARCO,..GUESS WHAT??????…they may buy the Horizon in Tahoe,..its closing,..they may buy it,..unsure if they will call it the Palms North,..but thats the name I suggested to Joe.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:39 am
Ok MR,..thanks, I can read between the lines,..Im one of the dumb ones arent I?….
February 11th, 2010 at 8:40 am
What did John Meyer say the other day? Guess he said the N word in a playboy interview? They took it out of context. Anyhow, on CNN or whatever they’re telling him to shut up and play his guitar. They only let you talk about sex these days. Get political, and you’re getting smacked.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:41 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Bo, you’re such a cool Raider fan. You’re not one of the dumb ones. You’re unique. You’re one of the few Davis supporters who’s also smart.
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Wow. I’ve always heard that when your dream comes true, it feels a little underwhelming. Now I get it.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Whi is John Meyer?
February 11th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Lol,..John Mayer?…oh God,…who the F listens to that dork?…I have Slayer playin here on my bunk at the shelter right now.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:43 am
^Who
February 11th, 2010 at 8:43 am
I think Nascar is in a couple of weeks. It’s not in March.
I went out their once for the race, and I just don’t get the whole Nascar thing. 4 hours of my life that I wish I had back. My wife can get free tickets, but even for free I would never go again.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:45 am
John Mayer said something about not liking black chicks, and of course the PC crowd ran with it.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:46 am
I didn’t see that, Vegas. The quote I got was about a ghetto pass. They took it out of context. And when you say the pc crowd, do you mean the people who insist the word god should be capitalized?
February 11th, 2010 at 8:48 am
Im not an auto race fan much,..but last summer Stabler was grand marshall in Sonomas nascar race,…we hooked up with him for an hour,..was awesome,…I wouldnt consider any sporting event a waste of time,…alot of people,..partying,..all good….my doctor told me to try and attend more events.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:49 am
Norco Bob, that’s because you’re cool. Cool guys listen to Slayer. Anybody wants to be cool, just buy a Slayer album, and you’re there. Doesn’t matter if you’re walking around bragging about spending money on the worst team in sports. That Slayer shirt will save you. Yeh.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:49 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 8:46 am
I didn’t see that, Vegas. The quote I got was about a ghetto pass. They took it out of context. And when you say the pc crowd, do you mean the people who insist the word god should be capitalized?
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I didn’t read the whole interview, but something along the lines of never dating black chicks, but than something about he thought Holly Robinson Peete was hot. Didn’t seem like much to me but who knows.
Is the God crowd the PC crowd? I usually associate the bible-freaks with the right-wingers, and they are far from PC.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:49 am
MR,..why ya worried about that dork?…his music is awful,..put on some old Sabbath or something,…lol John Mayer.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:49 am
What is Nascar?
February 11th, 2010 at 8:50 am
MR,..here I am inviting you for drinks at Louie`s and you make fun of me,..not fair man,..
February 11th, 2010 at 8:50 am
Of course you hooked up with Stabler, Norco Bob. You’re cool. You’re smart. You go to all games. You’re a Slayer fan. You even have a token black friend from the ghetto, Bri en, who tolerates you referring to black people as monkeys.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Dude, I’m not cool enough to listen to Sabbath. I don’t go to all games. I don’t call black people monkeys. I don’t have a pill addiction. Who am I to listen to Black Sabbath? Not worthy.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:53 am
Hey!!!!…just got a DM!….from a Raider!!!!…
February 11th, 2010 at 8:53 am
I guess if you are in the infield and there for the party, Nascar could be fun.
Sitting in the grand stands, around a bunch of yee-haws from Kentucky, not how I would spend my Sunday.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:53 am
Vegas Raider, why do you capitalize the word god? Political correctness.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Gosh MR,..sometimes you are nice to me,..then other times make fun of me…
February 11th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Morning Nation.
Have we replaced our special teams coach yet?
February 11th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Ya Vegas,..some friends will be in the infield with their rv,..so will go see how that goes,..I heard party all night.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Vegas Raider, that’s right. You’re too cool for yee haws from Kentucky. You’re from Tracy, California.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:55 am
MR?…did I call you a monkey?…huh?…dont recall that ever.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Where’s RaiderDogg at?
See that triple-double from Curry last night? Dude is going to win ROY.
Trade Ellis while he still has great trade value. Give him another year, another injury, and time to sulk,and his value decreases dramatically.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Making fun of you? I’m bowing to your alter! You’re my superior. You listen to metal. You go to all games. You’re not pc. You call black people monkeys, which is as American as it gets. Did I mention you go to all games?
February 11th, 2010 at 8:57 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 8:53 am
Vegas Raider, why do you capitalize the word god? Political correctness.
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Because it is grammatically correct.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Yeah, Curry is really going to be good.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:58 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Vegas Raider, that’s right. You’re too cool for yee haws from Kentucky. You’re from Tracy, California.
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Don’t remind me. Thankfully it has been over 10 years since I lived there and a good 6-7 years since I went back.
Tracy….slightly better than Kentucky. Slightly.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Well thanks MR,..but Im sorry, I cant take credit for calling you or others monkeys,..but if you want, ok,..here goes,..MR, you are a monkey!!
February 11th, 2010 at 8:59 am
Trade DMAC for a proper noun!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proper_noun#Proper_nouns_and_common_nouns
February 11th, 2010 at 8:59 am
Keena Turner lives in Tracy,..as does MC Hammer,..Iv seen them at the Tracy Outlet Mall,..cool dudes.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Now I have Megadeth on MR,..the live cd,..recorded in Rio,..kick aasss live cd!!!
February 11th, 2010 at 9:02 am
Grammatically correct. lol. OK, Vegas.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:02 am
Sharon Osbourne has been tweeting about Ozzfest 2010,..supposed to announce bands soon!!!
February 11th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Keena Turner and MC Hammer live in Tracy, they’re not from Tracy. There’s a difference. MC Hammer is from Oakland. Don’t know where Keena is from. But someone from Tracy, who grew up there, trying to size up people from Kentucky as rubes is pretty funny.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:03 am
I am hoping that Slipnot included,…Mudvayne…Korn…Rob Zombie…Maiden.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:03 am
So is that a yes or no Bob? Are you coming out here or not?
February 11th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Good Morning Nation!!
February 11th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Is Ozzy gonna bite the head off a live monkey?
February 11th, 2010 at 9:05 am
who is Keena Turner?
February 11th, 2010 at 9:05 am
Well MR i disagree,..I dont think it matters where one is from,…I grew up in bay area and is that supposed to make me sophisticated?…lol…I consider the bay area an open sewer.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:05 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 9:03 am
But someone from Tracy, who grew up there, trying to size up people from Kentucky as rubes is pretty funny.
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About as ironic as someone from Suckramento talking about professional sports…
February 11th, 2010 at 9:06 am
Ya Vegas, Im out there whenever the race is.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:06 am
Is Ozzy gonna bite the head off a live monkey?
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pretty sure his false teeth would fall out
maybe he’ll get REAL CRAZY and eat some raw fish in front of a live audience?
February 11th, 2010 at 9:06 am
R8eray,
Good morning bro!! What happened to the Rebels last night?
February 11th, 2010 at 9:08 am
MR,
you a Kings & Monarchs fan?
February 11th, 2010 at 9:09 am
I go to Kings games,..but not a huge fan….I go there to drink.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:10 am
The race is the 28th.
If you are REALLY coming, and not another imagination type of thing, I will buy you a round or two at the Rio.
If you got some good green, maybe we can work a deal
February 11th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Why can’t someone from Sacramento talk about sports? You’re from Tracy, and you talk about sports all the time. I don’t think Tracy even has a minor league baseball team.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:11 am
It was my comment. I am not from Tracy.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:12 am
BoSJack,
I read yesterday that Mickey D’s wants the word “McJob” dropped from Webster’s, American Heritage and Oxford English dictionaries as it reflects denegration and disparagement on the corporation.
Now if Oaktown can see a way to drop “McRunningBack”…
February 11th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Norco, you consider the bay area an open sewer. You go to all games. You listen to Slayer. You’re going to ozzfest. you call black people monkeys. My envy for you is off the charts. you can relax, now.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Tracy has a Sports Complex …
February 11th, 2010 at 9:13 am
Well, Vegas is from Tracy, and talks sports. So if you have a problem with people from small towns talking about sports…
February 11th, 2010 at 9:13 am
OH, I’m sorry, Bo. I know what you’re doing. You’re attacking my character because I make fun of Al Davis. Sorry. I was actually giving your conversation merit.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Bo, when do you think the Raiders will win a Super Bowl again? Just guess a year.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:14 am
All thats true bro,..not the money part though,..unless you take in me calling you one though. lol….I also tweeted Sharon that Godsmack might be a cool addition,..somewhat,…I heard shes trying to land Manson,..that will bring out the weirdos.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:14 am
I spent 6 years in Tracy, 7th grade through HS.
I’ve lived in Vegas longer than I lived in Tracy.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:15 am
I actually liked the Monkees,..decent band….here we come….
February 11th, 2010 at 9:15 am
M Lonetree Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 9:12 am
BoSJack,
I read yesterday that Mickey D’s wants the word “McJob” dropped from Webster’s, American Heritage and Oxford English dictionaries as it reflects denegration and disparagement on the corporation.
Now if Oaktown can see a way to drop “McRunningBack”…
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LMFAO!!!
February 11th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Tracy now has a sewage plant,..smells gross.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:16 am
BSJ,
were you a fan of Gerald Ford?
February 11th, 2010 at 9:16 am
And BART will make it over the pass to Tracy soon,…due to all who live in Tracy work in the bay area.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:18 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Bo, when do you think the Raiders will win a Super Bowl again? Just guess a year.
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They will win next year, just like they did last Sunday.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Vegas, most people do live in a town separate from where they grew up for longer than they did the town they grew up in. You’re still from Tracy, and you’re calling people from Kentucky “yee haws”. Unless you hung with Mexicans, you were a hee haw, too. Were most of your friends Mexican? Did you walk and talk like a Chicano?
February 11th, 2010 at 9:19 am
I don’t understand that response, Bo. The Raiders didn’t win the Super Bowl last Sunday. The Saints did. Where are you going with that? Seriously, win do you think the Raiders will win a Super Bowl again?
February 11th, 2010 at 9:21 am
MR,..you need to get high, have a drink…no reason to be this mad so early bro.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:21 am
MR,
I don’t care about Vegas’ personal life, but he seems like a cool guy on this internet blog.
why are you so interested? people from Tracy can’t be Raider fans?
February 11th, 2010 at 9:22 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 9:16 am
BSJ,
were you a fan of Gerald Ford?
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A fan? He was tolerable in comparison to R. Milhous Nixon. And a solid Michigan man. Chevy Chase played him well.
But his politics were so-so. At least he wasn’t a trickle-down-his-leg suckass to the rich, or a culture warrior, or a chickenhawk.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:22 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 8:15 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 8:05 am
Figuring out a pattern in here.
You sir, are a complete idiot.
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As compared to an incomplete idiot?
February 11th, 2010 at 9:22 am
Seriously, win do you think the Raiders will win a Super Bowl again?
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when do you think they will MR?
February 11th, 2010 at 9:23 am
No Super Bowl as long as Al Davis keeps making the same decisions and doesn’t change his M.O…..
Draft/acquire football players..not height/weight/speed guys…..
Invest in good coaching and pay them the market rate
Let coaches do their jobs
Al most likely will never change that so we really have no shot at the playoffs…let alone the Super Bowl.
The biggest argument here is whether Bruce Gradkowski should be the starting QB. If that doesn’t symbolize the problems in Oakland..nothing does.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:23 am
During my poser years sure, I wore Ben Davis gear.
When I lived in Chico I wore cargo shorts and flip-flops.
Now I wear a shirt and tie. Some people evolve, and others stay in Kentucky forever.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:24 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Seriously, win do you think the Raiders will win a Super Bowl again?
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Freudian slip?
February 11th, 2010 at 9:24 am
just wondering because of the Bo Schembechler/Gerald Ford connection.
and Ford was a Republican. your favorite
February 11th, 2010 at 9:25 am
# priesttj Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
Russell was directly responsible for 3 out of the 5 wins we had. And that is a fact, he could’ve had 2 more.
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Well, hell, in that case, he was directly responsible for every single loss in the other games he played?
You’re a COMPLETE idiot..(yes, as compared to incomplete)
Russell has a 42 rating for a game, that he completely sucked in, and because a DB fell down, and Russell hit a wide open receiver, a throw that any semi healthy ADULT could make, much less every single person who ever touched a football could make, and to YOU THAT’S BEING DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR WINNING THE GAME??
What a maroon…
February 11th, 2010 at 9:26 am
And MR, I have no idea when the Raiders will win another trophy. But I will be ecstatic when it happens. And you will not. Bummer for you.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:26 am
I see the Raiders winning the superbowl next season,..and I will be in row 1 the whole damn year.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:27 am
I would be OK with that Tennesse DT at #8. He looked great in the Senior Bowl, I was as impressed with him as just about anyone else that day.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:29 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 9:24 am
just wondering because of the Bo Schembechler/Gerald Ford connection.
and Ford was a Republican. your favorite
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I am not as dogmatic as you think. Repubs have been good leaders, just not for about 100 years.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Here’s an easier question?
Does any truly believe..NO..NOT HOPE AND WISH UPON A STAR..truly believe that the Raiders will ever win another SB while Al Davis is in charge?
No..saying ‘IF he hires a GM’ or “IF he let’s the coaches coach’ of “IF he butts out’ or “IF he hires a good HC” then the Raiders will win one, doesn’t count, because none of that will EVER happen as long as Al has his standing Depends order in…
The answer to the above is a big bodacious ZERO.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:31 am
S&B: what if we cut Russell and drafted Sam Bradford 8th overall?
would that solve the QB issues any more than a Russell/Frye/Gradkowski/Losman camp competition?
February 11th, 2010 at 9:31 am
Ozzfest’s are great. Been to a few. But Manson blows. Who cares about the shock. Just bad music. Not worthy of the Ozzfest. Best one was ‘99. Zombie, Sabbath, Primus (w Buckethead and Dimebag Daryl), System of a Down, Deftones, Pushmonky, Saler,Slipknot, Godsmack. Ozzie had to use a teleprompter to remember the lyrics. It was a great day.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:32 am
I think a broken clock is right twice a day.
Al almost pulled it off 8 years ago. We will never be consistantly good with him at the helm, but he could luck out and yes can win a championship.
Would I bet on it, no. Is it possible, sure.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Vegas, even in the old days Raiders were considered a dysfunctional team. Yet somehow they won some SB’s.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Well my dear friends, time to go,..they make us leave the shelter in the mornings,..I hate that,..I would much rather hang with you guys all day,…geez Im getting sad now,..well,..bye.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:34 am
# Norco Bob Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 9:26 am
I see the Raiders winning the superbowl next season,..and I will be in row 1 the whole damn year.
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Bobbo?
Because you are an admitted “teller of tall tales’..the “exaggerating the truth a tad bit”..the “what? ME make things up”?? kind of guy..why would anyone believe you actually GO to Raider games?
You admit you don’t work. Have no moolah. Spend mucho dinero on ganja..yet you profess to buying season tickets, and commuting down to Oakslum ten times?
Is this another one of your fables?
February 11th, 2010 at 9:35 am
I meant to type Slayer, not Saler.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:35 am
I believe Bradford to be overrated. We need a good vet to lead this young offensive squad. Not sure who that is though…
February 11th, 2010 at 9:36 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 9:21 am
MR,
I don’t care about Vegas’ personal life, but he seems like a cool guy on this internet blog.
why are you so interested? people from Tracy can’t be Raider fans?
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I tell you, for the life of me, I can’t understand why this guy has so much disdain for me.
A good chunk of the time, his first comment after loggin on is directed at me.
Well at least he debates a little, not doing the whole Senior Beecham/KoolKell obsession thing.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:36 am
You’re right Bo. Don’t need to be starting over again.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:36 am
# vegas raider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 9:32 am
I think a broken clock is right twice a day.
Al almost pulled it off 8 years ago. We will never be consistantly good with him at the helm, but he could luck out and yes can win a championship.
Would I bet on it, no. Is it possible, sure.
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Wasn’t 8 years ago the last hoorah of the Raiders having an actual GM?
Where after Allen left Al now decided he was lord and master of the manor?
February 11th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Al could have some sort of aneurism that causes him to make logical decisions.
It could happen.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Vegas, the Rebels…..man the Rebels!
76-66 was the final score last night, good thing I didn’t attend! I got invited and wasn’t able to make it, I would’ve been piss-ed off if I would’ve gone!
February 11th, 2010 at 9:38 am
I think Norco Bob has officially jumped the shark.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:40 am
r8eray Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Vegas, the Rebels…..man the Rebels!
76-66 was the final score last night, good thing I didn’t attend! I got invited and wasn’t able to make it, I would’ve been piss-ed off if I would’ve gone!
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Did you try to watch it? The freaking TCU-Utah womens game went to 4 OT’s, so they didn’t get to the Rebel game until after halftime.
The Mountain West and their TV setup is pitiful.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:41 am
I tell you, for the life of me, I can’t understand why this guy has so much disdain for me.
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MR has an inferiority complex. He sees you as an extension of the grandiosity of Vegas itself, and that makes him feel small and threatened. So knowing your humble roots, he lashes out.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:41 am
We could pitch in and hire some sort of stealth long distance hypnotist that trances him out w/ a laser then instructs him to hire a GM and step back.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Who cares where you’re from?
It’s where you’re at that matters.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:44 am
BSJ,
I guess.
At least it is entertaining. That’s what we come here for right? To be entertained and pass the time.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:44 am
This scrolling all the way down to the 1500’s is bullsh*t.
So Nation, what do you think of Clancy Pendergast?
A few times last year the Chiefs D just flat out quit.
It was pretty ugly.
Sure hope we can stop the run.
Most of that depends on the offense putting up points to defend.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Hopefully they work something out with BSPN or a Network instead of the Mountain West Channel!
February 11th, 2010 at 9:44 am
I can’t believe our special teams coach is still on board. He needs to be replaced ASAP.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:44 am
weaselbit Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 9:35 am
I meant to type Slayer, not Saler.
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Liar.
You meant to say STRYPER!
February 11th, 2010 at 9:45 am
Hey Vegas,
ROY???
Evans or Curry???
February 11th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Stryper at an Ozzfest. That would be so cool. They would have used the J freaks for the bonfires instead of paper.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:48 am
DMAC Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 9:44 am
I can’t believe our special teams coach is still on board. He needs to be replaced ASAP.
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He MIGHT deserve another chance considering his return men.
Leave it to the Raiders to take a strength one year and make it abysmal the next.
I say ditch JLH and get a veteran WR on the squad. Walker doesn’t count does he?
Inexperienced WR coach in Lal and to many newbie rookies on that squad. Need a vet presence one who isn’t insane and or washed up.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:49 am
weaselbit Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Stryper at an Ozzfest. That would be so cool. They would have used the J freaks for the bonfires instead of paper.
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To Hell with the devil!!! To hell with the DEH-HEH-VUL!
February 11th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Will they did sign Yamon Figurs. (return guy)
February 11th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Hire Jerry Rice for receivers coach.
Although I see him as a possible future HC for some team.
He’d be fighting w/ the union all the time for having training camp too tough.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Norco. I need to get high. I need to spend money on a business that’s all but trying to fail, the Oakland Raiders. I need to drink. Need to take pills. Need to go to ozzfest, listen to slayer. Need to hang with Bri en, and, of course, call him a monkey. Got ya. Anything else I need to do?
February 11th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Vegas Raider, pathetic guilt trip. If you can’t take the heat…
February 11th, 2010 at 9:53 am
DMAC Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 9:45 am
Hey Vegas,
ROY???
Evans or Curry???
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Curry is gaining ground and closing that gap. Evans has banged up and is in and out of the lineup a lot lately.
Curry’s game is awesome though. That’s why I want to ship Ellis out. Ellis is an amazing finisher on the break and a great scorer at times, but doesn’t play “winning” NBA basketball, IMO. He doesn’t make his teammates better, doesn’t really have a position, and doesn’t play D for 48 minutes.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Bo, that’s a good psycho analysis. So, analyze this. When will the Raiders win another SB? Just give a ballpark prediction. Nobody’s going to hold you to an exact year. How far away is this team from really being a Super Bowl competitor, similar to ‘00-’02?
February 11th, 2010 at 9:55 am
It ain’t a guilt trip, I’m right here and enjoy the challenge. If I didn’t I would just ignore you so many others on here.
Can you explain why I am the target of your ire so often?
February 11th, 2010 at 9:57 am
I answered you already MR. See post 1508.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:00 am
Once upon a time there was a large tract of land known as Kain-tuck-ee which was left unsettled by the surrounding Nations of people.
Kain-tuck-ee was set aside as a hunting region only for those Nations. This was particularly necessary in winter when supplementing the previous autumn’s harvest of the three sisters – corn, bean and squash – could mean the difference between survival and starvation for the surrounding peoples.
One day some other people showed up in Kain-tuck-ee bringing along their diseases and firearms and greed.
Generations of inbreeding among the usurpers brought about the rise of a large warehouse-like structure wherein Elvis impersonators turn blocks of wood into baseball bats. (tours optional)
(N. American History, condensed version)
Gerald Ford – abolished the Viet Nam war era draft.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Bo, you did not answer the question. You don’t know? What kind of fan are you? Don’t you have any faith? Can’t you look at this team and tell me they’ll be for real in a couple of years? Hasn’t Cable turned them around? Just bench Russell, start Gradkowki, and the Raiders are for real, right?
February 11th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Vegas, that’s exactly what I’m talking about. Referring to yourself as a “target”. Newsflash, buddy, you’re not that important. I just like to have fun with you.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:04 am
Al Davis’s henchmen are always saying Al’s a “target”, too, that there’s conspiracies to bring down him and the Raiders. Many of them go so far as to suggest that it’s the reason we’re losing, refs taking games from us, etc. I’m not saying you’re one of them, Vegas. But referring to yourself as some sort of “target” is right up that alley. That delusional, Godfather paradigm.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:05 am
Al Davis is not a godfather to the sports world. He’s an old man who needs help. He’s not respected.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:06 am
And, Al Davis is also a mark. Ask the Patriots.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Well I guess that’s the best answer I am going to get.
I wasn’t intending to call myself a “target”, and I don’t take myself that serious to think that I’m “important” on here.
But I know you consider your role of bashing all things Al Davis and Repub’s as very critical to this here internet blog.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:12 am
You don’t try to pass yourself off as being important, Vegas? Mr. gambling insider? Mr. I’m about to go to such and such restaurant in vegas? Mr. I have a room at the Palms? Mr. I have a contact who hangs out with this player, that player…? Yeh. you’re just a humble, regular joe in here, and that’s all you want to project yourself as. Stop trying to shyt a shytter, vegas. I’m from Sacramento, not Tracy.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:12 am
With two 3rd’s and two 5th’s, and Al needing to make a splash, I wouldn’t be suprised to see him trade up in the draft, and more specifically the first round.
I think we would all prefer a trade down, but we know that ain’t happening.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:14 am
LOL….I hate the Palms!!!
February 11th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Welcome back MaddenRaider. Where have you been?
February 11th, 2010 at 10:16 am
So Nation, what do you think of Clancy Pendergast?
A few times last year the Chiefs D just flat out quit.
It was pretty ugly.
Sure hope we can stop the run.
Most of that depends on the offense putting up points to defend.
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N21: relax bro. Clancy P was hired to coach the DB’s. He didn’t replaced John Marshall as Def. Coordinator
solid DC in Arizona for 5 seasons. coached Dallas DB’s for 3 years (from 2000-2002). worked with safeties Darren Woodson and Roy Williams.
1 year as DC for the Chiefs pathetic defense and he couldn’t turn it into a juggernaut in the 3-4. Anybody surprised?
Derrick Johnson is the only good player on that defense. Tamba Hali runs hot & cold. Pioli thought adding washed up vets like Mike Vrabel & Mike Brown would make all the difference.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Dogg,
Triple-double last night.
If you can package Ellis for Amare do you do it?
February 11th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Of course, Vegas. All regular old football fans in here who don’t view themselves as being important hate the palms. The palms is for tourists, not high rollers, like regular old joes like you.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:22 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Bo, you did not answer the question. You don’t know? What kind of fan are you? Don’t you have any faith? Can’t you look at this team and tell me they’ll be for real in a couple of years? Hasn’t Cable turned them around? Just bench Russell, start Gradkowki, and the Raiders are for real, right?
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Translation: Please, please, please argue with me!
February 11th, 2010 at 10:22 am
RaiderDogg, I joined facebook. Caught up with like a zillion people I haven’t talked to in years. Some since elementary school. For any of you who haven’t joined, you should. Anyhow, I’ve been over there the past week.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:22 am
My 2010 Mock Draft
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1. LB ALA. Rolando McClain
2. DT ALA. Terrence Cody
3. RB STAN. Toby Gerhart
3. DT CAL. Tyson Alualu
4. LB KEN. Micah Johnson
5. WR/KR OLMISS. Dexter McCluster
5. OG Tex.T. Brandon Carter
7. C N.D. Eric Olsen
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*Logan Mankins N.E. (OL)
*Marcus McNeill S.D. (OL)
*Nick Lackey N.O. (C)
*Elvis Dumervil Den. (DE)
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*Free Agent
February 11th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Bo, of course I’m baiting you! That’s obvious. But you know, a fan with a little bit of faith should be able to put up an argument for their team. Do you have any faith in this team?
February 11th, 2010 at 10:23 am
unless we address the D-Line even the Chiefs will sweep us next year.
Jamaal Charles is on the rise
February 11th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Hey Vegas,
bring back J Rich too in that package.
Don’t know #’s, but Ellis, and Randolph for Amare and J Rich sounds good to me.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:26 am
vegas raider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Dogg,
Triple-double last night.
If you can package Ellis for Amare do you do it?”
Vegas
I watched that game last night. Curry got his 10th board with .2 seconds left in the game. First rookie to do get a Triple Double for the W’s since Webber did it back in ‘92 I believe.
After seeing Curry last night Ellis very well may be expendable. My only stipulation would be that Amare agrees to a long term deal before the trade is done. I would hate to lose Ellis for a half a year’s service.
That was the best W’s game I have seen in a while. They kept showing The Beard on the Clippers sitting on the bench and then they would show Curry. It was like there’s the past, now here is the future. Plus the W’s were missing Ellis and Maggette! They only had 8 players dressed. Good sh1t man.
Are the odds up for next year’s Super Bowl yet and if so what are the Raiders odds, 14 to 1?
February 11th, 2010 at 10:26 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Of course, Vegas. All regular old football fans in here who don’t view themselves as being important hate the palms. The palms is for tourists, not high rollers, like regular old joes like you.
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The Palms is for single people, is off the strip, and full of tough-guys in tight shirts.
Not my crowd.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Dogg,
Odds are up, and I am sure the Raiders are way higher than 14 to 1.
If anyone trades for Amare, it is going to be a sign and trade type of deal. I like DMAC’s idea of Ellis and Randolph for Amare and JRich.
I’m not as high on Randolph as most Dub fans.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:29 am
MR
Yes FB is a trip down memory lane for sure. I have reconnected with several people from my past, including my best friend from when I was 6 years old. Very handy resource, although it is ripe for stalkerazzi to find you too. I have had some old g/f’s track me down on FB and come at me all Fatal Attraction style. I have contemplated not using my real name…
February 11th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Rockstar,
Right on point. The d-line is terrible and has been for years need real dts that clog the middle etx….too bad davis doesn’t value lineman unless they are pure pass rushers with speed
February 11th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Vegas
I would sign off on it in a millisecond if there was a sign and trade in place. Especially if you throw in JRich. Randolph is too injury prone anyway.
I still have 3 JRich jerseys too! Good call DMAC.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:33 am
Me either. I think Wright will be much better than Randolph.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:34 am
I read an article in the tribune a while back where it said J Rich would love to come back to the DUBS and finish is career in the bay.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:36 am
MR do you just go to facebook and type in someones’s name that you’re looking for?
February 11th, 2010 at 10:37 am
# vegas raider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 10:26 am
The Palms is for single people, is off the strip, and full of tough-guys in tight shirts.
Not my crowd.
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Sounds like Raider fans. Sounds like regular guys, non important, and who don’t view themselves as targets. Meanwhile, the Michael Corleones like you go higher scale, right? But…your’e just a regular guy. You’re not important.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:37 am
How can I find you on Facebook MR?
February 11th, 2010 at 10:38 am
4eva some people must have a setting that automatically looks up people they went to school with because the minute I joined I had a ton of friend requests, and I wasn’t popular in school.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:38 am
you won’t find me on facebook Vegas. I choose to comment here anonymously. Sorry.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Al Davis just wants the front 4 to do it all. penetrate to get after the QB AND stuff the run.
so you put 2 penetrators like Kelly & Warren next to eachother to hopefully collapse the pocket on passing downs, but even at that they are average at best.
neither is a solid run defender, so when the OL runs right down the middle our MLB meets not only the FB and RB with a full head of steam, but sometimes even an O-Lineman. That is putting your LB’s in a position to fail, especially your MLB. I think that is why Kirk Morrison is still highly regarded in this league (besides 90 percent of the Raider fans on this blog)
I think Capt Kirk should be retained, but slide him over to OLB. We need a monster at MLB and Kirk is far from a monster. He’s not even in the same league as Patrick Willis.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:40 am
I would like to match a face with the “voice”.
E-mail me your name, I won’t add you as a friend, and I swear on everything I won’t tell anybody else.
raidersfanlv@yahoo.com
February 11th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Rockstar, Al Davis doesn’t even care about the front 4. He doesn’t care about a pass rush at all. If he could just field 11 DBs, he’d do it. I think there’s some kind of league rules where you have to have so many linemen.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:41 am
How can I find you on Facebook MR?
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find the guy that looks like Kurt Rambis and dresses like Flavor Flav
February 11th, 2010 at 10:42 am
Would you guys welcome a trade for Urlacher to plug up the middle? Possibly a 3rd rounder????
February 11th, 2010 at 10:42 am
Thankx MR….I think I will try it now!
February 11th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Antonio Pierce to be cut by the Giants.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/11/giants-cut-ties-with-antonio-pierce/
February 11th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Vegas Raider, I told you once I’m not going to reveal my personal information on this blog. And this is the last time I’m telling you. Don’t bother asking again. I’m not interested in having anyone here know my personal information. No offense to some of you in here who I do like, but I’ve just decided that considering the nature of the arguments I’ve had in here, and the fact that I have received numerous threats, it’s not a good idea to reveal any personal info. Here’s my facebook handle, Vegas Raider: The Real MaddenRaider. It’s the only ID of mine you’ll ever need to know, and that you ever will know.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:44 am
Al Davis doesn’t even care about the front 4. He doesn’t care about a pass rush at all.
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then how do you explain the big money deals he gave Sapp, Kelly and the one Seymour is going to get ?
if he didn’t care about the DL we’d have Trevor Scott, William Joseph, Desmond Bryant, Jay Richardson starting 16 games with guys like Fred Wakefield for depth.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:45 am
Kurt Rambis and Flavor Flav, huh Rockstar? Do you have a problem with white people who act black?
February 11th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Well you have been a giant prick to people, so I guess I can understand where you are coming from.
Fine, me and 4eva will be facebook buddies without you!!!
February 11th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Rockstar, I think you just answered your own question. Al likes to throw big money at players, some good, some bad. But are you going to tell me he really prioritizes the front 4 when he gives a bum like Tommy Kelly that much money? I think he overpays players all of the field to give fans like you the impression that he cares. The actual players he gives the money to, combined with the results, tell a different story, don’t they?
February 11th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Antonio Pierce to be cut by the Giants.
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you think Mr. “it felt like a scrimmage” would be welcome in Oakland?
Cable & Seymour hate his guts, but Al Davis doesn’t care about team chemistry… so who knows?
February 11th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Vegas Raider, threatening someone is as prick as it gets. I haven’t threatened anyone since I was a kid.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:48 am
And, those who’ve threatened me have come in here and dished it out as good as I have. The victim card’s getting old, Vegas. Drop it.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:49 am
I never threatened anybody on here, but I do remember the whole “come down to my gym” dustup, lol.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:50 am
If Al Davis cared about the front 4, he’d look at the better defensive fronts in the league and follow the industry standard. He doesn’t. Because he doesn’t care.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Do you have a problem with white people who act black?
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I used to have a few Eminem CD’s but I tossed them in like 2002 or 2003 when I decided it was time to grow up
February 11th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Rockstar,
He brought in Seymour late once it was painfully obvious that the D-Line wasn’t even competitive.
DAvis will never spend a high draft pick on a D-Lineman….high picks are reserved for fleet footed D-Backs, receivers and running backs…..
February 11th, 2010 at 10:51 am
DMAC Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 10:42 am
Would you guys welcome a trade for Urlacher to plug up the middle? Possibly a 3rd rounder????
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Briggs is the plugger, Urlacher is the oft-injured coverage guy…
And yes get either of em, Briggs preferably.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Dansby would be an upgrade
February 11th, 2010 at 10:52 am
i never said you did threaten anyone. you implied that I deserved to be threatened for being a “prick”. Again, assuming the role of a victim. The biggest pricks in here are the guys I’m usually fighting with. And, just because someone doesn’t use obnoxious terms, doesn’t mean they’re not a prick. Some people try to antagonize people with subtle insults. They try to say things that they know will irritate people. They try to make political points that they know will get a rise out of people. That’s being a prick, too.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Rockstar, so black = immaturity?
February 11th, 2010 at 10:55 am
you’re right MR.
Al Davis traded next year’s 1st rounder on Pro Bowler Dick Seymour because he doesn’t care about the quality of players we have starting on the D-Line…
that 1st rounder could have been used on another DB. Dang it!
February 11th, 2010 at 10:56 am
Dont trip Vegas,..MR still mad that he asked for my facebook info a month ago and I turned him down…lol.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:56 am
the trade for Seymour only remotely works if they keep him for 3 to 5 years.
But it doesn’t matter because as you said, it would have been another DB
February 11th, 2010 at 10:57 am
MR,
trying to bait people into making racist comments on a Raiders blog = immaturity
February 11th, 2010 at 10:57 am
MR,
Well I will admit I am a prick to you, but you are a prick to just about everybody.
Big difference.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:58 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 10:56 am
the trade for Seymour only remotely works if they keep him for 3 to 5 years.
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Not true. You underestimate how valuable it will be to NOT have another overpaid bust first-rounder on the roster ala DMAC, Jawalrus, DHB.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:59 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Antonio Pierce to be cut by the Giants.
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you think Mr. “it felt like a scrimmage” would be welcome in Oakland?
Cable & Seymour hate his guts, but Al Davis doesn’t care about team chemistry… so who knows?
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Hey, at least he can fill a gap and has played the position before. He’ll have to get use to the soft touch DTs….but at least he fills a need. Maybe he would be willing to come to Oakland since he is a west coast guy…
February 11th, 2010 at 11:01 am
No Antonio Pierce. Injury-prone and not that good, on the downside of his career.
Give me Dansby or Ryans, or draft Witherspoon, Washington, Spikes or McClain.
February 11th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Norco Bob Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 10:56 am
Dont trip Vegas,..MR still mad that he asked for my facebook info a month ago and I turned him down…lol.
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Connecting with MR on any social networking site = big mistake. Think of all the other people who will say OMG, he knows THAT CLOWN?!?!
Unless of course you think MR is totally different in other forums. LOL. You betcha.
February 11th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 10:58 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 10:56 am
the trade for Seymour only remotely works if they keep him for 3 to 5 years.
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Not true. You underestimate how valuable it will be to NOT have another overpaid bust first-rounder on the roster ala DMAC, Jawalrus, DHB.
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Now that’s just sad. Don’t want the 1st round pick because Davis doesn’t know how to draft anymore. Hard to win with all these handicapps……1st round busts, emaciated coaches, ancient schemes…..etc
Oh well
February 11th, 2010 at 11:03 am
new DL Coach Mike Waufle knows Antonio Pierce well.
maybe we’ll get DT’s Fred Robbins & Barry Cofield in free agency too?
It would be a lot cheaper than going after Vince Wilfork, Casey Hampton or Ryan Pickett!
February 11th, 2010 at 11:04 am
What about OSI ? I think he’s healed from that 08 injury.
February 11th, 2010 at 11:05 am
Hey Bo,
Doesn’t Briggs play on the outside?
February 11th, 2010 at 11:06 am
I wonder what Mike Waufle thinks of Chase Blackburn & ex-raider Danny Clark?
February 11th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Trade DMAC for an emaciated coach!
February 11th, 2010 at 11:07 am
DMAC Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 11:05 am
Hey Bo,
Doesn’t Briggs play on the outside?
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Yes. Strong side.
February 11th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Briggs is much more of a run stopper, which we need more. And healthier.
February 11th, 2010 at 11:11 am
In the middle, or keep him on the strong side?
February 11th, 2010 at 11:14 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 10:55 am
you’re right MR.
Al Davis traded next year’s 1st rounder on Pro Bowler Dick Seymour because he doesn’t care about the quality of players we have starting on the D-Line…
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Explain the money that went to Kelly, Mr. Sarcasm. Do you give one of the worst d linemen in football that much money because you care about the defensive line? Yeh, right! Sure. OK. (sarcasm, or, ok, NOT)
February 11th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Ellis-Kelly-Wilfork-Seymour
Howard-Morrison-Briggs
= solid front seven IMO
February 11th, 2010 at 11:16 am
Rockstar, I never claimed to be mature. Most people who call themselves mature are anything but. It’s one of those things that speaks for itself. From what I’ve seen in your comments, I don’t see maturity. But if you want to call yourself mature just because you’ve hidden your rap CD’s from your current peers, knock yourself out.
February 11th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Pats are keeping Wilfork.
What about this
Ellis-Kelly-Williams-Seymour
Scott-Free Agent-Howard
February 11th, 2010 at 11:17 am
MR
Ever hear of the group EastBaySick?
February 11th, 2010 at 11:18 am
Belichek & Sapp both praised Tommy Kelly as the next big thing at DT if he was converted from DE.
just before FA the donks were prepared to give Kelly a big money deal. Al Davis went in panic mode and just threw money at him, despite what he’s actually accomplished (or hasn’t) on the football field
thats what happened. go look it up
Kelly would be much better with a NT next to him imo, but still not worth Top 10 DT money
February 11th, 2010 at 11:18 am
I think Shaunessey should be somewhere on the line.
GAMER!
February 11th, 2010 at 11:19 am
So, Vegas, you’re defending people from the big bad MR? Is that it? You’re a prick to me, because I’m a prick to others. I think we’re back to the Corleone, wannabe Vegas insider thing, aren’t we? Because it’s not the trait of a normal, every day joe who doesn’t want to pass themselves off as being important to be some kind of caped crusader on a blog. Also, just what person have I been a prick to who was unable to defend themselves, and needed you? There is no moral reason for you being a prick. It’s something you choose. And once you choose to do something, you’re no better than anyone else who does it.
February 11th, 2010 at 11:20 am
be back later.
February 11th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Bo, Mr. psych analysis…how about giving us an analysis as to how far away the Raiders are from really competing again? How many years until Cable gets us back to our 2000 level?
February 11th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Bo, is it fair to say that you know so much about anonymous blog commenters, but very little about the Raiders?
February 11th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Alright, Rockstar. Make sure your Lil Wayne cd is tucked far enough under the seat to where your co workers don’t see it. We wouldn’t want them to think you’re immature. lol.
February 11th, 2010 at 11:24 am
I never said or have I ever defended anybody but myself. Don’t know where that came from.
See I don’t take myself so serious. I’m willing to strip off the “Vegas Raider” tag and invite you to my wife and I’s facebook page. But you take your “Real MaddenRaider” persona to heart so much, you aren’t willing to do the same.
February 11th, 2010 at 11:25 am
It is weird how you guys all scatter out of here at once. Is 11 am when Herrera sends you guys to lunch? lol.
February 11th, 2010 at 11:26 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Bo, Mr. psych analysis…how about giving us an analysis as to how far away the Raiders are from really competing again? How many years until Cable gets us back to our 2000 level?
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2000 level was overrated. Coach held us back.
February 11th, 2010 at 11:27 am
You said I’m a prick to others, and you’re a prick to me, and that there’s a difference. That sounds like an attempt to pass your pricktitude, as it were, off as some sort of moral cause, defending others. Truth is, your bring a prick is no different than mine. A prick is a prick. Everyone here is capable of defending themselves.
February 11th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Fair enough, Bo. So, when will we be even that good again? As overrated as we were, we were 12-4 that year. How long before you think Cable gets us near that 12 win mark? And btw, as far as downplaying our success then? Only a niner fan could have put it better.
February 11th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Vegas Raider, the reason I’m not giving you any personal information has nothing to do with my attachment to my screenname on this blog. It’s because I don’t trust you.
February 11th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Emaciated coaches? Cable is the farthest thing on the planet from emaciated!
February 11th, 2010 at 11:33 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 11:28 am
And btw, as far as downplaying our success then? Only a niner fan could have put it better.
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Not sure what you mean by that…maybe a thinly veiled homophobic jibe?
Anyway, stripping away Gruden’s playcalling conservatism allowed Trestman/Gannon to really excel in that scheme.
And once again, I do not know when we will return to a playoff caliber. I hope it is soon, and I have some ideas for improvement. First is dumping Lance. Check. Next is coaching continuity. Third is no more immature, slow-learning QBs. Fourth is DMAC being excised from the team.
Of course my ideas are purely amateur fan-based ramblings. I am not a HOFer like Al Davis, so I don’t know what will really happen.
February 11th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Yes don’t trust me, but trust some guys you haven’t seen or heard from since Elementary school.
I don’t buy that BS for one second.
February 11th, 2010 at 11:43 am
A lttle while ago SnB supposed that Al would never take a Defensive Lineman with a high draft choice.
The past few, Chester McGlockton (#16 overall), Darrell Russell (#2 overall) and Leon Bender (#31 overall)either died very young or had issues with effort (in DRuss’ case, both.).
O-line in 010!
February 11th, 2010 at 11:47 am
hey Vegas I just went to your email thing and got this page that looks like office stuff.As we all know I barely know my way around this computer,soo I will wait till Cohleen gets home and she can hook us up tomorrow or something!
February 11th, 2010 at 11:52 am
That’s my e-mail address. Fire over an e-mail and I can shoot you over my facebook info.
It’s mostly my wife’s stuff, but I a have a supporting role on it. Always makes it fun to match a face with the “voice”.
February 11th, 2010 at 11:54 am
What about Antonio Bryant?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/11/antonio-bryant-is-no-longer-a-franchise-player/
February 11th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Hey Vegas, you know Jessica Winkelhausen?
February 11th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
WTF?????
Ok, that’s weird. How did you come across that bit of info.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
ok Vegas!
February 11th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Oh I see, when you google it.
LMAO….I totally forgot about that. I busted that broad trying to cheat on her Math Assessment test.
Of high moral standard I am, as you can see.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
LOL. For a sec you thought I was slick!
February 11th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
BSJ,
were you a Mich fan when Jim Harbaugh played for the Wolverines?
February 11th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
From cnnsi:
“Russell was supposed to come into his own in his third season as the fulltime starter. Instead, the former No. 1 overall pick found himself on the bench because of poor production and a suspect work ethic. Insiders say owner Al Davis, who has invested some $31.5 million in guarantees to Russell, wasn’t happy about the benching, but the players privately applauded coach Tom Cable’s decision. Gradkowski is a restricted free agent, but Oakland is expected to re-sign him so he can compete for the starting job. One plus for whoever wins the job: he will have a bright new offensive coordinator in Hue Jackson, the former quarterbacks coach with Baltimore.
*And another thing: The Raiders acquired defensive lineman Richard Seymour before last season in a trade with New England. Now he’s scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent. Oakland must re-sign him, otherwise it will have given up its 2011 first-round pick to rent Seymour for one season. This one bears watching because Seymour’s family remained back east last season, and the three-time Super Bowl champion is not accustomed to the losing or dysfunction he experienced last year in Oakland.”
February 11th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 11:33 am
….stripping away Gruden’s playcalling conservatism allowed Trestman/Gannon to really excel in that scheme.
And once again, I do not know when we will return to a playoff caliber. I hope it is soon, and I have some ideas for improvement. First is dumping Lance. Check. Next is coaching continuity. Third is no more immature, slow-learning QBs. Fourth is DMAC being excised from the team.
Of course my ideas are purely amateur fan-based ramblings. I am not a HOFer like Al Davis, so I don’t know what will really happen.
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Chiefs, Broncos, Chargers, and Niner fans, ^^^ there’s a great comment for you to copy and paste whenever some Raider fan starts bragging on the Raiders’ success in 2000.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
BSJ,
were you a Mich fan when Jim Harbaugh played for the Wolverines?
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Very much so. Since 1973 actually. Lived there.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Vegas, why shouldn’t I trust people I went to school with. The ones I’ve accepted friend invitations from have given me no reason not to trust them. You, on the other hand….
February 11th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Chiefs, Broncos, Chargers, and Niner fans,
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The only one here is you.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Bo, in 2000 did Trestmen step in and take over Gruden’s conservative playcalling, and lead us to 12-4?
February 11th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
I’m not the one downplaying a good Raider team. It’s you.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
And yeh, it’s pretty well agreed upon amongst the great minds around the league that Mark Trestmen was the architect of the 2000-02 Raiders. lol. Only in Alameda…
February 11th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
The Glaziers really wanted Trestmen! And Al got them, boy. He gave them Gruden instead. Al the genius! lmfao
February 11th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
I always liked Jim Harbaugh as a player and now I sorta like him as a coach.
you think he’ll ever enter the NFL ranks as a Head Coach like his brother?
Ever watch the Chippewas play?
I keep hearing about this Dan LeFevour kid. solid stats but thats all I got. Anything we need to know about him? Is he worth drafting in Round 3 or higher?
February 11th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
That team peaked 2 years later after Gruden was canned. Trestman/Gannon ran his offense much more productively.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Meanwhile, we kept Trestmen and went on to dominate the AFC West for YEARS after we got that pesky, conservative Gruden out of the offensive gameplan. Whew….
February 11th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
2 years after Gruden was canned was the 2003-2004 season. The Raiders were 4-12. The Raiders only had one good year after Gruden was canned. Want me to remind you how it ended?
February 11th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
But seriously, Bo. you’re obviously a die hard fan. Just give us a ballpark figure of when you think Cable’s Raiders will be ready.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Dan LeFevour choked against Arizona & Boston College last year …
February 11th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
1653. Seymour’s going to finish his career in silver and black have no illusions no matter his not being accustomed to losing or what ever.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
1669!
February 11th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Bo, how much did the Bucs offer Al for Trestmen? Had to have been double what they offered for Gruden, right? LOL.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
But seriously, Bo. you’re obviously a die hard fan. Just give us a ballpark figure of when you think Cable’s Raiders will be ready.
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Not sure when. But I guarantee that when it does happen, you won’t be here to publicly acknowledge it or give Al any credit. You’ll probably be floating under the Golden Gate Bridge (is it OK that I capitalized that?).
BTW, Rickey Henderson is still really fast for a Filipino regardless of what you say about him.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Gradkowski is a restricted free agent, but Oakland is expected to re-sign him so he can compete for the starting job.
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thanks for sharing Vegas.
you know Dakota and S&B are p1ssed! haha
February 11th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Hue will know if Troy Smiths the real deal or not. I’d love to see him become a Raider cuz who ever he eventually gets to play for is going to be very happy with him.
Short or not he can play the game and lead with action and authority. Prototype delivery just lacks the big gun.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
2 years after Gruden was canned was the 2003-2004 season.
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We were discussing the 2000 team. I said that team peaked 2 years later, after Gruden was canned. Which = 2002. Pay attn.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Bo, you keep calling my loyalty into question, when you can’t even say when the team will be good again. What kind of fan are you at least partly believe that the Raiders will never be good again in your lifetime?
February 11th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Gradkowski is a restricted free agent, but Oakland is expected to re-sign him so he can compete for the starting job.
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thanks for sharing Vegas.
you know Dakota and S&B are p1ssed! haha
=======================================================Nope not p&ssed. If you read the sentence above it says “so he can COMPETE for the starting job”…..not GIVEN the starting job like some on here would like to do. COMPETE for the starting job.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Hue will know if Troy Smiths the real deal or not.
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Even this UM fan would not mind having this particular Suckeye on the Raiders.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Fair enough, on the two years thing. Whatever. Doesn’t change the point. So, Bo, how much did Tampa offer up for Trestmen? Surely Trestmen was their first choice, right? I mean, if he was the real reason our offense was good…
February 11th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
What kind of fan are you at least partly believe that the Raiders will never be good again in your lifetime?
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Ingles?
February 11th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
I know when the Raiders will be great again.
The next time we play in Denver!!!
February 11th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
It’s TrestmAn.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
And, to be honest with you, Bo, I don’t see where the team really peaked in 2002. They lost 4 games straight, and there were really no power houses in the AFC that year, not even us, because power houses just don’t drop 4 straight unless a star player is injured during that stretch. That enabled us to get to a Super Bowl that we obviously had no business being in to begin with, as Gruden proved. If the ‘02 Raiders face an ‘01 New England or a ‘00 Baltimore in the playoffs, they don’t make the Super Bowl. I honestly think 2000 was when that team peaked. Real smash mouth offense, Tyrone Wheatley running between the tackles. Good run defense, too. Liked that style of football. And, 12-4 was our best record of that era.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Bo, the fact that you just simply can’t even take a guess as to when the Raiders will be good again must mean it’s no time in the foreseeable future, right?
February 11th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
My must do list for the 2010 season (not in any particular order):
1) Resign Richard Seymour to a multi-year deal
2) Draft heavy for the O-line (right side & center)
3) Sign any DT with the 8th pick pick
4) Sign run veteran stuffing MLB to multi- year contract
5) Keep Morrison and Howard. OLB’s
6) Appoint Huff the starting FS, as long as he restructures!!!
7) Make sure someone is on JR arse evry single day to bring out his true potential. If he is not what he is made out to be, cut him.
9) Trash the ZBS for a power blocking scheme.
10) PRAY!!!!!
One Nation…Raider Nation!!!!
Your thoughts please. Thanks!!!
February 11th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Mark these words, Bo. The last 12 win season that old man will ever see in his sad life cane at the hands of Jon Gruden and Rich Gannon, and wouldn’t have happened without either of them. Do you dispute that?
February 11th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Bo, the fact that you just simply can’t even take a guess…
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My guess? We will win the next five Super Bowls. Satisfied?
February 11th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Mark these words, Bo. The last 12 win season that old man will ever see in his sad life cane at the hands of Jon Gruden and Rich Gannon, and wouldn’t have happened without either of them. Do you dispute that?
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LOL.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
We will win the next 5 super bowls? That would be a record. I doubt it. Even to win one this year would be nearly impossible. You honestly think JaMarcus Russell and this young receiving corp. is ready to compete for a Super Bowl right now? Do you know anything about football?
February 11th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
MR, since when did the number of regular season wins matter when compared to reaching the Super Bowl? As a Fan (chuckle), which would you rather have:
1. 12 wins and a loss in the playoffs due to pisspoor, conservative playcalling? Or,
2. 11 wins and a shot at the championship?
February 11th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
Bo, you obviously really don’t think the Raiders can ever win again while Al’s alive. You’re resting on a miracle. Basically, your faith today is that a mediocre team will just reach down and find it in themselves, and run the table, right?
Bo, here, I’ll make it easy. Just give me one aspect of this team that’s ready to compete for a Super Bowl. Offensive line, defensive line, receiving corp…DBs…whatever. Special teams? Hey, Jano and Lechler. I might go for that. But can you name any other unit on this team that’s ready for prime time? Really could be a part of any Super Bowl team?
February 11th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
You honestly think JaMarcus Russell and this young receiving corp. is ready to compete for a Super Bowl right now?
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No. I just guessed.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Bo, the AFC was weak in ‘02. You know you weren’t worried about the Tennessee Titans going into the playoff stretch. You knew it was ours to lose.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Bo, you really don’t see the Raiders competing in the foreseeable future, do you? Yet you come in here every day and go right after the critics. Why? You have no more faith in the team than they do.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Bo, you really don’t see the Raiders competing in the foreseeable future, do you?
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Absolutely. JP Losman will make all the difference. Mark it down. Like Justin Wilson says, I gar-on-tee. One really great leader like JP can and will forge this team into an epic dynasty. Starting today. Right now in fact.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Bo, there’s a lot of fans in here who believe that Cable is just within a couple of years of getting the Raiders to the top of this league. Obviously, you’re not one of them. You just have this strange loyalty to Al Davis, and you think that it somehow makes you a better fan than others in here. What a crock.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
We will win the next 5 super bowls? That would be a record. I doubt it.
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OK. You convinced me. We probably won’t.
February 11th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Absolutely. JP Losman will make all the difference. Mark it down. Like Justin Wilson says, I gar-on-tee. One really great leader like JP can and will forge this team into an epic dynasty. Starting today. Right now in fact.
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what are you smokin’ BSJ?
Danny Southwick is the QB of the future and face of the franchise effective July 4th (Al’s birthday)
February 11th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Actually, JP Losman is my dark horse to come in and take this job.
February 11th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
JP Losman? You’re still joking, right? Like the 5 superbowls thing? Losman hasn’t succeeded anywhere, and this is probably the worst offensive line, worst receiving corp, and worst coaching system he’s ever played under. Just tell me you’re joking, before I start to believe you’re just some girl messing around on here and really have no intention of discussing football. Because you can’t be serious.
February 11th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
JP Losman? You’re still joking, right?
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Stop with the insults. I’m deadly serious.
February 11th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Trade DMAC for just some girl!
February 11th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Gradkowski is a decent QB. Quick, mobile in the pocket, accurate, similar to Gannon. Look at what happened to him. Our line sucks and our offensive game plan prioritizes protecting the quarterback right there with punching themselves in the face. How does Losman excel in this system? Do explain.
February 11th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
LOL. oooh.
February 11th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Just tell me you’re joking, before I start to believe you… really have no intention of discussing football.
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I love discussing football. In a serious manner. But not with everybody. I don’t trust you.
February 11th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
So, Bo, you honestly believe then that if we start Losman, we could be Super Bowl contenders this year? I’m talking at least 10 wins…
February 11th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Bo, are you loyal to Al Davis?
February 11th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
MR, here, I’ll make it easy. Just give me one aspect of Danny Southwick’s game that’s NOT ready to compete for a Super Bowl. Just one. Before I start to believe you’re just some girl messing around on here and really have no intention of discussing Raiders football.
February 11th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Bo, are you loyal to Al Davis?
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You would have made a great Senator in the 50s.
February 11th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Is Hue Jackson a WCO type of OC?
Losman has a shot
February 11th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
you love discussing football in a serious manner, yet you insist the Raiders can compete for a SB this year as long as Losman starts? YOU’VE NEVER EVEN SEEN LOSMAN! Where was he before Oakland? I’d never even heard of him. A backup in Buffalo, right? And this would have to happen with him being saddled up with a young, and not to mention, injury prone receiving corp, a porous line, a gameplan that simply does not factor not only protecting the QB but even the league they’re playing in, and a coaching system ALWAYS marred with chaos. Sure. That’s a serious conversation. I’m off to grab lunch. Catch up with you later, you character.
February 11th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Bo, are you loyal to Al Davis?
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I would take his call.
February 11th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
2010 Oakland Raiders overpaid, worthless, Free-Agent bust will be…Antonio Pierce.
February 11th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Catch up with you later, you character.
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Thats Mr. Character, to you. Capitalized. Pray to me MR.
February 11th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
I consider myself a die hard Raider Fan like I’m sure evryone on here does. I’m not sure about us being a good QB away from a Super Bowl run though. That would be nice though!!! I think we need more veterans on this team that will continue to show the youngsters how to really PLAY the game. Not just go thru the motions and get their paycheck. Just my opinion.
February 11th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
01rdrfan Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
I consider myself a die hard Raider Fan like I’m sure evryone on here does. I’m not sure about us being a good QB away from a Super Bowl run though. That would be nice though!!! I think we need more veterans on this team that will continue to show the youngsters how to really PLAY the game. Not just go thru the motions and get their paycheck. Just my opinion.
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You’re right. I was way off.
February 11th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
BSJ: Just give me one aspect of Danny Southwick’s game that’s NOT ready to compete for a Super Bowl. Just one.
MR: I’m off to grab lunch. Catch up with you later
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He knows Danny Southwick will hunt him down and relive “jaw-gate” if he says anything negative about the Stormin’ Mormon
February 11th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Is Hue Jackson a WCO type of OC?
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Is Hue Jackson a ZBS type of OC?
February 11th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Why did Mo Collins have such a short career? Believe it or not, he is still only 33 years old.
February 11th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Antonio Pierce released, he should be signing with the raiders lets hope
Pierce says he’s been released
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The New York Giants have released middle linebacker Antonio Pierce after five seasons.
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“I was shocked at first, but I’m not the one up there up in the office, and they said they felt they needed to go in another direction,” Pierce told ESPN’s Rachel Nichols on Thursday. “They said it wasn’t my health, or the way I played, but just that — that they were going in another direction. We left everything smooth and peaceful and I’m happy about that — I felt like I said everything I needed to say to them. I’ve loved my time in New York and won’t have anything but good feelings about being with this team.”
Pierce said the reason he was in the New York area was to have a doctor look at the herniated disc in his neck that caused him to miss the final seven games of last season. He said the MRI was “very positive.”
“I can’t say I’m 100 percent yet, but with the season still six months away, I’m right where I need to be and I’m going to be fine,” he said.
Pierce had one season left on the contract he signed as a free agent in 2005.
When asked if he had an idea of where he might play next or if he has been contacted by other teams, Pierce said, “I have no wish list. If I had a preference, it would be to stay in the NFC East, since I know the division so well. But I just want to go somewhere I can help a good team.”
Pierce had 55 tackles, one sack and one forced fumble in nine games last season. He led the Giants in tackles the previous three seasons and missed only four regular-season games since leaving the Washington Redskins to join the Giants.
Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
February 11th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
LOL @ RRS.
February 11th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Antonio Pierce will probably join the Eagles, Cowboys or Redskins (again)
February 11th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Rockstar,
Yeah, when he said “somewhere I can help a good team” that pretty much takes us out of the running
February 11th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Antonio Pierce fits the mold of a potential overpaid Raider……at the end of his career and injured!!
Al please do not over pay this guy to come here and collect a paycheck……..wait a minute I forgot who our MLB was……yeah maybe over pay this guy instead of Morrison!!
February 11th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
KEEP THE A’S IN OAKLAND!
http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/5782/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=663
They’re probably gone, but the least we can do is sign this letter.
February 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
BSJ,
what do you call MR with 2 black eyes?
nothing. Danny already told him twice …
February 11th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
S&B Defense:
how would you feel if we dropped Warren & Bryant and picked up former NYG DT’s Fred Robbins & Barry Cofield?
February 11th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 11th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
S&B Defense:
how would you feel if we dropped Warren & Bryant and picked up former NYG DT’s Fred Robbins & Barry Cofield?
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Works for me. Although Bryant can stay. Cofield, Robbins, Kelly and Bryant would work for now. At least it would be competent.
February 11th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
ERRFF 2 JWERRY
ERRFF 2 JWERRY
February 11th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Works for me. Although Bryant can stay. Cofield, Robbins, Kelly and Bryant would work for now. At least it would be competent.
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I forgot William Joseph was still on the roster.
so I guess Robbins & Cofield would replace Warren & Joseph …
and the DE’s would be Seymour, Ellis, Shaughnessy & Scott
or do we keep Trevor Scott at OLB and give the 4th DE spot to Jay Richardson/Greyson Gunheim?
February 11th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Oren O’Neal, RB Taken off IR ankle
Ricky Brown, LB Taken off IR ankle
Jon Alston, LB Taken off IR concussion
Nick Miller, WR Taken off IR fractured tibia
Slade Norris, LB Taken off IR hamstring
all taken off of IR today and placed back on the roster. thats a whole lot of help on Special Teams IMO
will any of these guys be back next season?
February 11th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
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