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Deals with Seymour, Seabass require some thought

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, February 11th, 2010 at 2:06 pm in Oakland Raiders.

NFL teams were able to designate franchise and transition players as of today and can do so for the next two weeks.

During that time, the Raiders can be expected to lock up defensive end Richard Seymour and place kicker Sebastian Janikowski, whether through the tagging process or long-term deals. If last season is any indication, when Nnamdi Asomugha and Shane Lechler became the highest paid players at their positions, both are feeling good about breaking the bank themselves.

However, there’s a chance both could come away disappointed _admittedly a relative term when millions of dollars are being discussed.

Oh, they’ll still be Raiders, but it’s probably unrealistic to think they’ll come away with the kind of deals Asomugha and Lechler received, contracts which stunned not only the players involved but the rest of the NFL.

Seymour is classified as an end for purposes of his tag, meaning he would earn $13,398.000 if he doesn’t come to a long-term agreement. If given the exclusive tag, it could be more, as his deal would be recalculated with the top five salaries at his position as of April 15.

But Seymour isn’t looking for a year-to-year existence, no matter the salary. He will turn 31 during the 2010 season and is looking for what could be his last big score. Given that he’s a unique player given his ability to move inside as well as play at the end, and the fact that he has five Pro Bowls under his belt and three Super Bowl rings, his agent, Eugene Parker, will be looking closely at three contracts while setting his price.

The two highest paid defensive ends are Minnesota’s Jared Allen (six years, $74 million, $31 million guaranteed) and Indianapolis’ Dwight Freeney (six years, $72 million, $30 million guaranteed) and Washington defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth (seven years, $100 million, $41 million guaranteed).

With the later years of the deal so much window dressing, the guaranteed money is the issue. Seymour, who wisely went on record saying how much he enjoyed it in Oakland, probably can’t be brought home with less than $35 million in guaranteed money. Parker could reasonably request Seymour be made the highest paid lineman in the NFL.

For all his accomplishments, that’s a huge figure for someone who had four sacks in 16 games (including two in the opener) and whose presence couldn’t prevent the Raiders from being one of the most porous teams in the NFL against the run.

After giving up a first-round draft pick in 2011, allowing Seymour to walk isn’t an option. Unless the Raiders are willing to pay him the huge guarantee, or can get back a first-round draft pick, they’ll be looking at keeping him with a franchise tag and paying the $13,398.000. Given Asomugha’s age and level of performance, it was an easier call to write the check for his three-year deal than it will be with Seymour.

In past years, franchising Seymour would have meant Janikowski would be a free man. Not so in the absence of a collective bargaining agreement. With no CBA in place, teams can use both franchise and transition tags. In Janikowski’s case, the franchise tag is $2,814,000, the transition tag $2,629,000.

Janikowski knows what Lechler received _ $16 million over four years, $9 million guaranteed.

But it’s hard to make the case that Janikowski should get anything approaching what Lechler got. Lechler has been among the NFL’s premiere punters since he arrived in 2000. Janikowski, in 2009, enjoyed his first truly elite season as a place kicker.

What he does have in common with Lechler is that Al Davis is proud of the draft where he got both his kickers, getting Janikowski in the first round and Lechler in the fifth.

This year’s climate may not be conducive to long-term contracts with big money paid up front. Salaries won’t be paid in the event of a 2011 work stoppage. Bonus money is out the window.

As you may have noticed, blog postings have slowed in the absence of news but are will pick up as events warrant . . .

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826 Responses to “Deals with Seymour, Seabass require some thought”

  1. Norco Bob Says:

    Numero uno

  2. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Looks like Al’s going to ruin Seymour’s career and make even another enemy. Be interesting to hear Seymour’s dish on this team after he leaves, to tack on to what Sapp, Brown, and Gannon have already said. And, even more fun, watching Al’s loyalists just squirm.

  3. RaiderRockstar Says:

    3rd?

  4. 01rdrfan Says:

    Keep Seymour. Don’t think he will get a better deal from any team in the league. Al loves him too!

  5. Norco Bob Says:

    Hang in there MR,..maybe tomorrow will be a better day.

  6. Norco Bob Says:

    I hate to see my friends in here have sad days,…I sure hope MR doesnt become like old kell,…MR, dont let this Raider stuff bum ya out,..just football baby,…go smoke some grass, hang out at the river,…meet me at Louie`s on Mather tonight,..have some drinks, play some darts…enjoy ourselves….we wont even bring up football bro. :)

  7. los raiders de don rober Says:

    How much would it cost to sign the draft pick we traded for Sey? Say 7th overall? Give him that kind of money…Or give him the family jewels, I could care less about Al’s money now that there’s no Salary Cap….I wish George Steinbrener owned zi Raidez.

  8. 01rdrfan Says:

    How many post do you think we will have before Jerry’s next blog??? My guess 1687.

  9. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Getting Seymour for the 1st round pick was steep. Now they have to pay him the money. The Raiders desperately need to add that big man in the middle to really make the D-Line work. You get that big man in the middle to occupy the blocks (NOT A PENETRATOR) this should create more 1-1 opportunities for Seymour and Kelly on the inside.

    Come on Al….not too mention the linebackers. FIX THE LINE AND GET A LANE CLOGGER.

    I guarantee the defense gets to at least average. GUARANTEE IT!

    No more safeties (ignore Taylor Mays @ the combine) not another receiver or running back….we need a big dude that makes the life of guards and centers a living hell.

    Come on Al! Do you even know football anymore?

  10. 4evaRaider Says:

    Rockstar….I would REALLY like to keep Jay Richardson.He’s going into 4th year and is a beast,imo

  11. 01rdrfan Says:

    When is the combine on the NFL Network???

  12. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    yep jay richardson and that other dude matt shaugnessy kikk azz.

  13. 4evaRaider Says:

    Notice what Jerry? we didnt notice anything :)

  14. los raiders de don rober Says:

    Draft the fastest guy at the combine…Stock up on guys with measurables from small colleges. Sue Lance Kiffin for cause and for being a con artist and a lier…what else is on the check list?

  15. RaiderRockstar Says:

    How many post do you think we will have before Jerry’s next blog??? My guess 1687.

    ***

    My guess is Kell’s birth year, 1937

  16. 01rdrfan Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
    How many post do you think we will have before Jerry’s next blog??? My guess 1687.

    ***

    My guess is Kell’s birth year, 1937

    ****************

    LOL

  17. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    I hope Michael Huff restructures. Please Michael…restructure down to $2M or $3M..anything to take an excuse away from Davis to draft Taylor Mays.

    Taylor Mays knows damn well if he gets that 40x that he goes from a 2nd round late 1st to a top 10….best believe he’s working with Michael Johnson or some former Olympic Sprinter.

    Come on Michael Huff. Stop this madness. Restructure and keep that starting job.

    I don’t want to see Taylor Mays in Silver n Black….

  18. aig Says:

    given what Al has done with teh first pick the last few years…Seymour was a steal compared to Jawalrus, McChicken legs, and Alligator Hands.

  19. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    i was playing madden and i realize that safeties are most important in defense. look at the guy at indy colts and the guy at steelers.

  20. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    its where u put yur safeties and how well they read the offensive action. so we need a superstar safety

  21. RaiderRockstar Says:

    pick up former NYG DT’s Fred Robbins & Barry Cofield to replace Warren & Joseph …

    DT’s will be Cofield, Robbins, Kelly & Bryant

    DE’s will be Seymour, Ellis, Shaughnessy & Richardson

    keep Trevor Scott at OLB

  22. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    the jets have number 1 defense cus jim leonard and kerry rhodes stay in the right place

  23. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    saints safety darren sharper lead that soft azz defense

  24. 01rdrfan Says:

    I have to disagree with you SATANFEARS ALDAVIS. The safeties are only important if the front 7 are doing their jobs. If not, then they just get alot of tackles on a losing team. Our very own Tyvon Branch comes to mind.

  25. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I hope Michael Huff restructures.

    ***

    S&B: this is a contract year for Huff. the only way he’d take less money than the 5+ million he’s due this year is if we added more years to his contract and made it back loaded.

    I doubt Davis will give Huff an extension since he’s a noted Art Shell pick that Al didn’t want and Mike Mitchell was a 2nd rounder aka soon to be starter

    Huff would be stupid to agree to a simple paycut after his best season as a pro and Davis would be stupid to ask him to.

    Paycuts for guys who DON’T perform is in order though. Russell is 1st on the list. Kelly is 2nd. Warren & Walker need to be released.

  26. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    its how yur defensive coordinator uses the safeties.

  27. vegas raider Says:

    Safeties can play a huge role.

    Look at the year the Colts won the Super Bowl. Sanders was out most of the year, they were dead last in run defense during the regular season, Sanders comes back for the postseason and the Run D improved dramatically.

  28. 4evaRaider Says:

    To build a Championship team,we need depth ,as you all know.

    At DE’s we seem to be doing that.Behind Ellis,we have Shaunessy and behind Seymour we have Richardson.

    Every other position I just dont see much depth

  29. 01rdrfan Says:

    its how yur defensive coordinator uses the safeties.

    27.vegas raider Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
    Safeties can play a huge role.

    Look at the year the Colts won the Super Bowl. Sanders was out most of the year, they were dead last in run defense during the regular season, Sanders comes back for the postseason and the Run D improved dramatically.

    ***************************

    True. It also didn’t hurt that Sanders was the emotional leader on the defence so everyone stepped up their game dramatically. Just like when Troy is playing for the Steelers.

  30. 4evaRaider Says:

    Hey Vegas….I can I M you 2!

  31. RaiderRockstar Says:

    5pm in Podunk. later gents!

  32. vegas raider Says:

    Was that just you? I saw it pop-up and I didn’t know what it was.

    Give it another whirl would you

  33. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    01rdrfan Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
    I have to disagree with you SATANFEARS ALDAVIS. The safeties are only important if the front 7 are doing their jobs. If not, then they just get alot of tackles on a losing team. Our very own Tyvon Branch comes to mind.
    ================================================
    Thank you sir. That’s why Branch had a ton of tackles, Wilson had a ton of tackles and even the much maligned Stu Schweigart had a bunch of tackles. all for nothing

    Remember Eugene getting tossed by McGahee…..our front 7 doesn’t get the job done.

    no more safeties, corners, receivers, running backs, quarterbacks or anything until that D-Line and O-Line for that matter are FIXED

  34. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Michael Huff should be given additional years or whatever.

    ANYTHING TO STOP AL DAVIS FROM DRAFTING TAYLOR MAYS!

    Do we want another scene like this?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ3Q-FoSJwA

  35. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Or this situation

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-DGrp8OKXA

  36. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Or this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZubYpplmzVk

  37. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Do you guys think that some of the combine speedsters privately hope they run the SECOND fastest time instead of the fastest?

  38. 01rdrfan Says:

    Please not another safety!!!! We don’t need one. If we get a DT or MLB with our #8 pick I will be very happy!!!

  39. 24 Says:

    And the Head Coach of the Oakland Raiders will be?…(Drum Roll Please)

  40. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    JerryMac……

    Thanks for throwing us degenerates a bone, you can take the rest of the week off. See ya, Mon. or Tues.

  41. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
    Do you guys think that some of the combine speedsters privately hope they run the SECOND fastest time instead of the fastest?
    =================================================
    No, they run the fastest….especially if they are in the late first 2nd round grade.

    That 40x is worth millions of dollars. MILLIONS!

    Even later in the draft…Arman Shields got a little coin for being able to run that 40x.

    Book it! If Taylor Mays gets a 4.3 or lower…HE IS A RAIDER! Guarantee it. They will jettison Michael Huff and insert the latest combine master.

    We have what we have!

  42. 24 Says:

    I was surprised when we didn’t draft Safety Sean Taylor and went with Robert Gallery instead. Taylor Mays isn’t really a lock considering the improvement of Michael Huff and Tyvon Branch with Mike Mitchell waiting in the wings. I think the team would be more inclined to move Branch to FS and start Mitchell. Tom Cable can only pick scrub offensive lineman for so long before he actually drafts a lineman with a high pick. You gotta believe hes lobbying for it.

  43. ottocrat Says:

    Repost.

    KEEP THE A’S IN OAKLAND!

    http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/5782/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=663

    They’re probably gone, but the least we can do is sign this letter.

  44. Nnamdi21 Says:

    They both stay. Period.

  45. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Good Lord, are you draft fools out again, praying for the impossible?

    Do any of you knuckleheads actually think Al will pick the guy who actually makes sense?

    That’s like expecting Krappy to hose HIMSELF down after one of his torrential pant crapping explosions.

    If it helps you out any, think of Al and Krappy as the same deranged person. Both are a million years old, both think they have all the answers and both are completely unaware of their overwhelming senility.

    So if any of your tards think Al is going to go with a sensible pick like OL or DL, think again – the fool is going to pick Taylor Mays. Pray for Haden to fall, because he’s the only shot at getting a legit talent in the size/speed package Al pleasures himself to every night.

    And if any of you sissies cry on the blog right after Al picks Mays about giving up your season tickets, I’ll personally drive Krappy over to your place with a sleeping bag to crash on your living room floor for the next month.

    Any questions?

  46. Nnamdi21 Says:

    24 Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
    I was surprised when we didn’t draft Safety Sean Taylor and went with Robert Gallery instead. Taylor Mays isn’t really a lock considering the improvement of Michael Huff and Tyvon Branch with Mike Mitchell waiting in the wings. I think the team would be more inclined to move Branch to FS and start Mitchell. Tom Cable can only pick scrub offensive lineman for so long before he actually drafts a lineman with a high pick. You gotta believe hes lobbying for it.

    ==============================
    Gallery was supposed to be the lock of the decade at LT.
    Oakland ruined that.
    People hack on Mitchell’s coverage and thats how you can tell they didn’t watch every play of every game. He’s not bad at all, especially all things considered and he’ll only get better.
    May’s supposed 4.25 makes me wonder…bet he runs a 4.4 if he runs at the combine.
    Wouldn’t be surprised to see Denver take him if he falls that far. He might. He’s over rated.
    Raiders are for the first time in a looong time, looking good at safety.
    I’ve joked on here how Al will take Mays and move Huff or Branch to corner.
    Guess I shouldn’t give Alphonse any ideas…

  47. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    SnB…..

    I heard Mays say on a radio interview a few weeks back, that he plans to run the 40 in the 4.18 range..

    He might have been clownin… but, if he come close to that number, Al’s drool towel will be soaked….

  48. Nnamdi21 Says:

    “That’s like expecting Krappy to hose HIMSELF down after one of his torrential pant crapping explosions.”

    =========================

    Quote of the day!

  49. Nnamdi21 Says:

    909RaiderLifer Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
    SnB…..

    I heard Mays say on a radio interview a few weeks back, that he plans to run the 40 in the 4.18 range..

    He might have been clownin… but, if he come close to that number, Al’s drool towel will be soaked….

    ===========================

    Our Chris Johnson has that tattooed on his calf from when he ran a 4.18

  50. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Mays would be a horrible selection for the Raiders unless he miraculously transforms upon reaching the NFL.
    Sure he could center field for us like he did for USC, but last years high profile gaffs with blown coverages and poor tackling will have many rightfully questioning whether he should go top 10.

  51. 24 Says:

    Nnamdi21 – Honestly…If Branch and Mitchell end up starting at safety, I would LOVE to see Huff at corner. It makes perfect sense because his best attribute is coverage and he’s done a great job with guys like Antonio Gates and Tony Gonzales. Hes built for the position. After John Marshall came, Huff starting really hitting people and laying the wood as well so it wasn’t a matter of Huff being bad as it was poor coaching from the previous defensive staff.

    If Branch and Mitchell start, I would like to see Huff as the nickel corner. Routt has never become anything close to a good player and is very spotty. Routt would be fine as a dime back but I think having Johnson/Asomugha/Huff at the corner spots with Branch/Mitchell at the safety spots could be very beneficial. Huff could always be the backup safety to those guys either way.

  52. Thec07 Says:

    Huff to nic corner is a good move…

  53. kvnbntly Says:

    hopefully mcclain is working with a sprint coach, as high as raiders are drafting they really need to look at getting a return on the money. get seymour signed and i honestly believe they can add to the d line through free agencey maybe umenura or how ever you spell it giants are souring on him a bit, maybe the cali sun can revive him.

  54. Thec07 Says:

    We dont need mays, i like him but we have mitchell…

  55. Thec07 Says:

    For once hope we dont draft 40 times, projects, or reaches. How about we go against the grain and draft the best football players on the board that we need.

  56. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Thec07…

    Great idea! but with Al it always has been, and always will be speed baby…

  57. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Last year I half jokingly said Al will take the WR with the fastest 40 time, at 1st. pick…

    Guess what, we got D(rops) H(hella) B(alls)…

  58. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    speed kills

  59. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Very insightful, lil Albert. Did you think up that insightful observation on your own, or did your nanny do it for you?

    Man, British kids are a pain in the hip of America!

  60. RaiderDebo Says:

    If Mays gets close to 4.18, cant’t say I’d wanna kill Davis for drafting him. There’s always a place for that kind of talent. Having said that, hope he runs a 4.4.

  61. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Beeecham, where do you think I heard the term “speed kills from?

  62. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Either

    1) your head butler, scolding one of your careless housekeepers for knocking over a priceless vase

    3) you mother when you would take a bath shorter than 3 1/2 hours

  63. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Beeecham, are you going to answer my question? Or, did you run away because you don’t know the answer?

  64. Norco Bob Says:

    Any you party people want to meet for some booze, I will be at Louie`s Lounge in an hour or so,..Mather and hwy 50. Word.

  65. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Beeecham, apparently you are either a young lad yourself. In fact, I would guess that you are really only 16 or 17.

  66. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Albert, how many times do I have to tell you – you can’t come on the blog looking to find friends who might come to your next birthday party.

    There has gotta be a Jonas Brothers or One Tree Hill blog somewhere on the internet you’d feel more comfortable on.

    Going through puberty is difficult enough being a spoiled English brat.

    Don’t make it any tougher.

  67. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Beeecham, are you really a Raiders’ fan? Maybe you’r just attracted to the scary fan costumes? Are a goth kid?

  68. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Is this you Beeecham? http://nitespyder.com/FatGothKid.jpg

  69. KoolKell Says:

    Little Beech has low self esteem.

  70. Norco Bob Says:

    Hi you old buzzard!

  71. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Kell, you know about “speed kills”, right?

  72. Norco Bob Says:

    Please, at his age, dont talk about what kills,..hes close to the end as it is. :(

  73. Norco Bob Says:

    old kell…what?…you post that pic of you and you actually mention someone elses low sel esteem?…lol…:)

  74. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    From ESPN.com: Speed kills, in the famous words of ultimate Raider Al Davis. You can’t teach speed, he said. Everything else in the game can be taught, but speed is a gift from God.

    ——————
    Beeecham has never heard this term because he is just a little brat who has killed too many brain cells listening to ICP.

  75. KoolKell Says:

    I do now.

    http://www.speedkillsusa.com/

  76. Norco Bob Says:

    Oh wait,..old feel kell,..you keep telling us about your success,…palaces in Sweden,..your global treks,..all that,..due to your high self esteem right?…lol hahahahahahaha!!!

  77. KoolKell Says:

    Al Bigelow

    I think Lil Beech has been relieved by Doofus Boob.

    They seem to change shifts at 5pm.

  78. Norco Bob Says:

    Norco is better then speed. :)

  79. Norco Bob Says:

    Shifts?…huh?

  80. M Lonetree Says:

    Yay, Ol JerryMc dragged himself out of his post-SB stupor long enough to blog at monetary issues. Hoorah.

    Seymour Dick and SeaBass will be signed however the dinero plays out per CBA etc.

    TV monopoly money/ NFL franchise = $160 million.

    Any questions?

  81. Norco Bob Says:

    maybe one day, when Iv traveled the globe,..buy a castle or two in far away places,..I will simply do what all other big wheels like Trump, Gates, and old kell do,…hang in a blog and obsess over someone that doesnt know I exist. lol hahahahahahaha!!! Nurse!!!

  82. M Lonetree Says:

    Indy builds the fastest defense it can and everyone thinks it is great.

    Al drafts for speed and y’all crap all over him.

    Agendas anyone????????

  83. Norco Bob Says:

    Oh no,..old kell is off putting quarters in the company googlie machine…I feel another exciting link coming!!! :)

  84. KoolKell Says:

    Al Davis pays, but the Raiders are 29-83. Comphrende?

  85. KoolKell Says:

    Al Davis is 29-83, Indy isn’t, comphrende?

  86. Norco Bob Says:

    Old kell,..you arent in your villa in Cabo,..english in here please. Thank you.

  87. 24 Says:

    Antonio Pierce – LB – New York Giants…was released today. He was injured last year with a herniated disk in his neck so its risky but if we can get this guy with a 1 year contract, he fits what this defense uses and he runs a similiar system in NY. Mike Waufle has ties to him as he has been coaching the defensive line for a few years so that might help a little. Anybody like the idea?

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=2842

  88. 24 Says:

    Who thought the Colts Defense was great? I thought it was their offense who got them to the Superbowl. The Defense is good but not dominant. Without Dwight Freeney, they’re not as potent because they don’t have that consistent pass rush.

  89. Norco Bob Says:

    Bring Pierce here now!!!…I told brian that today too by the way,..he agreed.

  90. KoolKell Says:

    Antonio Pierce has some miles on him, but I’d be willing to see if he has anything left.

  91. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Pierce compared the Raiders to a scrimmage team.

  92. Norco Bob Says:

    I love you old kell.

  93. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Pierce could accompany Walker and Russel in the clubs.

  94. 24 Says:

    Thought this was funny regarding the surprise onside kickoff by the Saints…

    Vernatchi was also surprised how long it took him, and the rest of the officiating crew, to figure out whose ball it was.

    “That was, in all the years I’ve been officiating that was the longest one I’ve ever been involved in,” he said. “I was the unlucky one down at the bottom of that pile and finally the New Orleans guy came out. It was just survival of the fittest, that’s how we ruled on it. Quite frankly, that ball was bouncing around down there and there’s no way you can secure it and none of us are strong enough to pry it from any of those guys.”

    Added Vernatchi of getting stuck at the bottom, “I’ve got a pretty good scratch on my face and my hand was cut up pretty good. Yeah, I took a little pounding.”

  95. Norco Bob Says:

    We think alike,..connected…what a bond we share. :)

  96. 24 Says:

    The one thing I don’t like about our offensive line scheme is that its hard to figure out who the team will sign or draft for the positions.

  97. Norco Bob Says:

    I am guaranteeing the Raiders win the afc west in 2010,..and its due to me being in row 1 now,…I will be down there, in their faces,…especially Russell,…its ours now. Word….took me over a decade to get down there,…I emailed the Raiders to never get a new stadium,.ever,…I am now in row 1,…a new stadium would screw me,…I am closer to the field then any other fan in the league,…no seats in any stadium are closer to the field then me,..period. Testify!

  98. 24 Says:

    Nice to see that it was Cutler’s fault for sucking.

    Protection wasn’t Cutler’s problem

    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 11, 2010 3:44 PM ET
    Masochistic Chicago Bears fans were given a treat Thursday. Sean Jensen of the Chicago Sun-Times examined all 26 of Jay Cutler’s interceptions in grisly detail, with a huge assist from Ron Jaworski,.

    The amazing takeaway is that protection problems weren’t the cause of any of the interceptions. Sure, Orlando Pace was a bust. But this analysis supports my subjective thought that the Bears were far worse in their run blocking than their pass protection last year.

    Most of Jay Cutler’s picks came from mental mistakes, with some mechanical issues thrown in. That’s why “Jaws” thinks Mike Martz is the perfect tutor for Cutler to fulfill his potential, if Cutler is willing to listen.

  99. 24 Says:

    Norco Bob – If there is a way for you to assist the team in winning from that seat…please do so. When Russell throws an errant pass towards you, just catch it and throw it to the proper WR as if it never happened.

  100. KoolKell Says:

    I figure the ZBS is the only reason Cable is still coach.

    Is Davis still in favor of the ZBS?
    Is Hue Jackson a ZBS playcaller?

  101. Raiders4eve Says:

    Norco Bob

    How much it cost you to get that seat? 8 games I am guessing at least $1600 am i right?

  102. Norco Bob Says:

    61 per seat, ten games

  103. Norco Bob Says:

    4 seats…plus parking pass,..I spent about 2700 last week. damn!

  104. Norco Bob Says:

    Money well spent if you ask me.

  105. Norco Bob Says:

    by the way, parking went up,..30 a game…crap,..parking pass last year was 250

  106. 24 Says:

    Looks like Antonio Bryant will be a free agent. That guy has so much freakin talent. I think his stats hurt last year from being on a poor team with an inexperienced QB but if you want a #1 WR, he’d be a good signing if you can deal with some attitude to go along with it. Unfortunately, the team will probably go with the same WR’s as last year and we’ll suck again.

  107. Norco Bob Says:

    brian called me,..he said raiders should get carlos dansby,..whoever that is.

  108. Raider75 Says:

    Kiper has a 3 round mock draft out.

    Anyone have access?

    If so, post the Raiders picks.

  109. 24 Says:

    Norco – I’ll give you credit. I’m a real fan but I just can’t see myself forking over that kind of money for the current team. I’m a real fan but you truly are a REAL fan. Granted, I don’t have that kind of money to spend. If I was rich, I’d probably do it with no problems good or bad. Also…I moved to San Diego so I will definitely buy 1 game a year when the Raiders come to town so that I at least fulfill the need.

  110. Raider75 Says:

    Bill Williamson – ESPN says…

    Keep an eye on Oakland to see if it shows interest in left tackle Tra Thomas. Although he was cut by Jacksonville on Thursday, and is past his prime, he can still help a team. Oakland will be looking for tackle help this offseason.

  111. Norco Bob Says:

    Of course Im a real fan,..theres two kinds of fans,..fans who go to every game,..and then theres the ones that hang in a blog to cry and whine and wish death upon the owner,..obsess over the owner,..post 7 year stats,…etc….I think I will continue to be in the group that goes to the games,…plus its a great place to get wasted.

  112. Norco Bob Says:

    Tra Thomas = Barnes

  113. 24 Says:

    Raider75 – I only see 1 round

    Round 1 Pick 8: Anthony Davis*, OT, Rutgers
    Davis might not be the most complete tackle in the first round just yet, but he is the most naturally gifted and should get better. Great feet, ideal size and he has the ability to maul defenders in the run game. After a whiff in the first round last year, the Raiders should address a big need here.

  114. 24 Says:

    Raider75 – Send me the link.

  115. Norco Bob Says:

    DHB no whiff,..huge year in 2010,..75 catches,..8 td`s,..because Im now in row 1. Hey now.

  116. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Krappy, that was a longer nap than usual! You must’ve really crapped the heck out your bermuda shorts this afternoon and just passed out from all the action.

    Sorry I had to leave you Lil Albert, but I had to bust 5 miles before doing my daily PX90.

    I’m not sure if you British kids work out like us freedom lovin’ American dudes, but I never thought I’d actually be able to slice a cucumber with my abs.

    Anyway Krappy, I’m still waiting to see those changes on your web site. I guarantee if you take my suggestions you’ll get more than just Norco Bob visiting everyday.

  117. Raider75 Says:

    # 24 Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    Raider75 – Send me the link.
    …………..

    I saw it on PFT…

    In his new three-round mock draft, ESPN’s Mel Kiper projects the Dolphins to select an offensive playmaker at No. 43 overall, calling LSU WR Brandon LaFell, USC WR Damian Williams, and Ole Miss RB Dexter McCluster possibilities.

    Mel Kiper Jr. go three rounds deep on Dolphins’ upcoming draft
    by Edgar Thompson

    With the April 22-24 draft 71 days away, just about everyone seems to expect the Dolphins to select Alabama inside linebacker Rolando McClain with the No. 12 pick.

    That is, unless Oklahoma State wide receiver Dez Bryant falls to No. 12 and complicates the decision for Bill Parcells, Jeff Ireland and Tony Sparano.

    But ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr., the forefather of the cottage industry of draftniks, is looking beyond Round 1, where most people with a computer and a knowledge of college football can come up with 32 players.

  118. 24 Says:

    http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php

    Round 1
    ANTHONY DAVIS, OT, RUTGERS

    Scouting Report
    Nobody ever really knows what Al Davis is going to do, which makes the Raiders picks notoriously difficult to project in mock drafts. With that said some trends have emerged over the years and they indicate that the odds favor Oakland opting for either a defensive back or offensive lineman. The offensive tackle position has been a problem area in Oakland for quite some time and after ignoring it for so long this might finally be the year they address it. Besides, it only makes sense to provide all of that skill position talent they’ve accumulated (JaMarcus Russell, Darren McFadden, Darrius Heyward-Bey) with some blockers.

    Rutgers’ Anthony Davis is probably the most physically talented offensive tackle in this draft but there is a chance he could slip a bit on Draft Day due to some concerns about his conditioning and intangibles. However, Mr. Davis has shown time and time again that he is willing to overlook off-the-field issues if a player is talented enough. A great athlete with excellent size and nimble feet, Davis has all the tools to be a stud blindside protector at the next level as long as he can keep his head on straight.

    Florida’s Joe Haden would also be a good fit for the Raiders if he is available and if they choose to part ways with Kirk Morrison then Alabama’s Rolando McClain might be an ideal replacement. If Davis decides to reach for one of those “Workout Warriors” that he loves either Jason Pierre-Paul of South Florida or Taylor Mays of USC could enter into the mix.

    Round 2
    39 OAKLAND RAIDERS: CHAD JONES, S, LOUISIANA STATE
    Precisely the type of freakish size / speed prospect that Al Davis falls in love with.

  119. Raider75 Says:

    Here is the link to the Dolphins story…

    http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2010/02/10/mel-kiper-jr-go-three-rounds-deep-on-dolphins-upcoming-draft/

  120. Norco Bob Says:

    Geez,..draft chat… :(

  121. 24 Says:

    Raider75 – For whatever reason, I can’t find that article on PFT and I don’t see a new mock draft on espn.com

  122. 24 Says:

    Raider75 – Its actually Mel Kipers Big Board…not a mock draft.

    Mel Kiper’s latest 2010 Big Board
    Comment Email Print Share
    By Mel Kiper Jr.
    ESPN.com
    Archive
    As the mock draft season takes over, consider the Big Board a valuable source in terms of understanding overall player value. This week there are some changes: Rolando McClain and Jason Pierre-Paul move up, as does Terrence Cody. Regardless of what you hear about Cody, when you talk to personnel folks, this is a guy who teams believe can fill a need as a classic block-occupying clogger in the middle, and I’m not convinced he’ll fall as some believe. But it’s still early in the process; Indy will tell us a lot more. I’ll be back with a new mock draft next week, by the way.

    Ndamukong SuhDT6-4300
    Analysis: Explosive, relentless and consistent. Last week: No. 1

    Gerald McCoyDT6-4297
    Analysis: Disruptive force. Productive NFL career ahead. Last week: No. 2

    Eric BerryDB5-11203
    Analysis: Ultimate playmaker in the Ed Reed mold. Last week: No. 3

    Sam BradfordQB6-4223
    Analysis: Has underrated arm, great feel for position; is super accurate. Last week: No. 5

    Joe Haden CB5-11190
    Analysis: Polished cover corner with tackling ability to match. Last week: No. 6

    Jimmy Clausen QB 6-3223
    Analysis: Polished; overcame adversity; under-center experience. Last week: No. 4

    Derrick Morgan DE6-4275
    Analysis: Solid pass-rusher but stout versus run. Very productive. Last week: No. 7

    Dez Bryant WR6-2220
    Analysis: Dynamic receiver and returner. Draft’s best downfield threat. Last week: No. 9

    Rolando McClain LB6-4258
    Analysis: Fiery, vocal team leader with top instincts for position. Last week: No. 10

    Russell Okung OT6-5300
    Analysis: Athletic, strong and fiery blindside pass-protector. Last week: No. 8

    Jason Pierre-Paul DE6-5262
    Analysis: Explosive, natural pass-rusher; raw but physically gifted. Last week: No. 12

    C.J. Spiller RB5-11195
    Analysis: Multitalented, versatile, electrifying game-breaker. Last week: No. 13

    Brian Price DT6-2300
    Analysis: Powerful leverage guy who wreaks havoc along line. Last week: No. 17

    Anthony Davis OT6-6325
    Analysis: Gifted physically, has quick feet and still improving. Last week: No. 19

    Earl Thomas S5-10197
    Analysis: Athletic safety with cover skills; can contribute immediately. Last week: No. 11

    Sergio Kindle LB6-4255
    Analysis: Improved all year; prototype 3-4 OLB in NFL. Last week: No. 21

    Trent Williams OL6-5318
    Analysis: Long and strong. Can help immediately at RT. Last week: No. 24

    Carlos Dunlap DE6-6290
    Analysis: Physical tools are off the charts. Has unlimited upside. Last week: No. 15

    Dan Williams DT6-3327
    Analysis: High motor, consistent, tremendously powerful lower body. Last week: No. 14

    Everson Griffen DE6-3280
    Analysis: Supremely talented pass-rusher; has added consistency. Last week: No. 18

    Brandon Graham DE6-2270
    Analysis: Awesome athlete; force off the edge; led nation in TFLs. Last week: No. 20

    Kyle Wilson CB5-10186
    Analysis: Solid cover corner, with added return skills. Last week: No. 23

    Bryan Bulaga OL6-6312
    Analysis: His incredible leverage is a big asset. Last week: No. 22

    Aaron Hernandez TE6-2250
    Analysis: Great hands and excellent run-after-catch skills for a TE. Last week: No. 16

    Terrence Cody DT6-3373

  123. KoolKell Says:

    Lil Beech

    Your bedtime stories are lame.

  124. Raider75 Says:

    # 24 Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    Raider75 – For whatever reason, I can’t find that article on PFT and I don’t see a new mock draft on espn.com
    …..

    It was Thursday Morning One Liners. Have to back a few pages.

    No big deal. Thanks for looking.

  125. 24 Says:

    Analysis: Block-occupying clogger; ideal 3-4 DT. Last week: NR

  126. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Bon soir.

  127. KoolKell Says:

    Rolando McClain LB6-4258
    Analysis: Fiery, vocal team leader with top instincts for position. Last week: No. 10

    Russell Okung OT6-5300
    Analysis: Athletic, strong and fiery blindside pass-protector. Last week: No. 8

    Dan Williams DT6-3327
    Analysis: High motor, consistent, tremendously powerful lower body. Last week: No. 14
    These guys look good:

    Anthony Davis OT6-6325
    Analysis: Gifted physically, has quick feet and still improving. Last week: No. 19

    Brian Price DT6-2300
    Analysis: Powerful leverage guy who wreaks havoc along line. Last week: No. 17

  128. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Krappy, you just got up from your all-afternoon nap and now you’re going to bed?

    I understand your brain basically shuts off around 6 and your wife has to type in your favorite links on the blog for you, but there are still have a few chores you MUST get done:

    - wander down to your local Arby’s with your overalls around your ankles

    - mistakenly brush your teeth with a Hot Pocket

    - post a link to a lame Bleacher Report article and take full credit for writing it

    Hurry Krap Krap – you’re starting to nod off!

  129. KoolKell Says:

    This is Al’s guy:

    Jason Pierre-Paul DE6-5262
    Analysis: Explosive, natural pass-rusher; raw but physically gifted. Last week: No. 12

  130. Raider O Says:

    Daft Talk! I like it.

    Should we draft McClain or Weatherspoon?

  131. KoolKell Says:

    Lil Beech

    Arby’s and Hot Pockets is all you talk about.

    I guess that’s you eh? Sacramento fine dining?

  132. Raider O Says:

    Al should be kidnapped a week before the draft, and released after the 1st draft day.

  133. Raider O Says:

    24,

    Did you move to San Diego?

  134. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Krappy, I’ll have you know I take my fine women out to some of the hottest spots in LA.

    And when I can’t get a primo res at Spago, I pull out the hibachi and grill up some filets on my balcony.

    That always gets French supermodels hot, for some reason.

    So besides Arby’s, where do you take the old lady for date night? I’d like some recommendations next time I’m slumming in the Bay Area.

  135. souldogdave Says:

    For all you bone-heads, the word is spelled DEFENSE.

  136. Raiders4eve Says:

    I stated this before and I will state it again, the best MLB in this draft is Brandon Spikes. I don’t believe the hype around Mcclain. He might be good but if we draft him in our system, he will struggle for at least two years. If he goes to a team like the Dolphins, he will be good. He is a 3-4 guy not a 4-3, over purses alot while he is in 3-4 imagine what would happen to him alone in the 4-3. I would take Spikes, a true leader, intimidator plus knows to play man to man defense. Mcclain never played in man to man defense. He is a project at best. Spikes is a legit MLB.

  137. Raider O Says:

    Al does well in the 2nd draft day:
    - Bush
    - Chaz
    - T Scott
    - Branch
    - Murphy
    - Matt S

    Great picks IMHO

  138. vegas raider Says:

    So let’s see, a physically gifted LT, with conditioning and intangibles issues, who is still raw and than a S in round 2.

    Ughhhhh………

  139. KoolKell Says:

    Senior Beeecham Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    Krappy, I’ll have you know I take my fine women out to some of the hottest spots in LA.

    And when I can’t get a primo res at Spago, I pull out the hibachi and grill up some filets on my balcony.

    That always gets French supermodels hot, for some reason.
    —————————–

    Lil Beech, you trolls are really, really needy aren’t you?

  140. Norco Bob Says:

    Come on old kell,…most in here are silly types, kids..not all in here are pushing 70 years old. :)

  141. RaiderDebo Says:

    24 Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
    Nice to see that it was Cutler’s fault for sucking.

    Protection wasn’t Cutler’s problem

    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 11, 2010 3:44 PM ET
    Masochistic Chicago Bears fans were given a treat Thursday. Sean Jensen of the Chicago Sun-Times examined all 26 of Jay Cutler’s interceptions in grisly detail, with a huge assist from Ron Jaworski,.

    The amazing takeaway is that protection problems weren’t the cause of any of the interceptions. Sure, Orlando Pace was a bust. But this analysis supports my subjective thought that the Bears were far worse in their run blocking than their pass protection last year.

    Most of Jay Cutler’s picks came from mental mistakes, with some mechanical issues thrown in. That’s why “Jaws” thinks Mike Martz is the perfect tutor for Cutler to fulfill his potential, if Cutler is willing to listen.
    SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

    I’d be very interested to see the same thing done with JR’s turnovers this year. I think a lot of haters on this board would be surprised.

  142. KoolKell Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    Come on old kell,…most in here are silly types, kids..not all in here are pushing 70 years old.
    —————————–
    Yeah, I guess that’s true. Btw, I’m 58, not pushing 70 ;-)

    And I’ll out drink, out fight, out run most of you young pootbutts.

    And if there’s women around, you pootbutts are shutout.

  143. Norco Bob Says:

    omg,..58?…dude you look older then al davis!!

  144. KoolKell Says:

    No, I don’t. As a matter of fact, I look 45.

  145. Norco Bob Says:

    What the heck is a poot butt?…is that something comics like jack benny or abbot and costello used to say?…can ya use some eddie murphy terms or someone a little more recent?

  146. Norco Bob Says:

    Lol…45…gotta love these dillusional old folks! :)

  147. vegas raider Says:

    Kool,

    You may be able to outdrink me (debatable) and outfight (I’ll give way to a vet), but there is no way in hell you are outrunning me.

  148. Norco Bob Says:

    However, please Lord,..shoot me if Im almost 60 years old and blogging with kids…actually old kell,..its disturbing.

  149. Raider O Says:

    LMAO @ KK & Ricky Bobby.

  150. KoolKell Says:

    I’m blogging with Raider Fans, pootbutts (wet behind the ear wannabe’s) want to pry themselves into the conversation.

  151. Norco Bob Says:

    Oh please you old weirdo,…you come in here to yell and scream about old Al,…you two old dummies should both go away…at least Al is a billionaire,..billionaires can be weird,..but you?…just an old embarrassment hangin in a blog,..pushing 60,..sad.

  152. 408RAIDER Says:

    can somebody change the song?

  153. Norco Bob Says:

    Shoot out in Hockeytown, USA!!!

  154. KoolKell Says:

    Davis is not a billionaire, and personally I don’t give a fuk.

    I’m talking about 29-83

  155. KoolKell Says:

    Boob

    29-83 is the only thing that concerns me here. Not Al Davis’ estate.

  156. Norco Bob Says:

    He is a billionaire, but since you dont give an F it shouldnt bother you,..hang in there old timer…simmer down now…your blood pressure you know. lol

  157. KoolKell Says:

    Boob

    But, I know you’re a groupie type pootbutt. Get any tweets from Gary Radnich today?

  158. Norco Bob Says:

    Hey, maybe Al can join a blog,..tell us of where hes been,..properties he owns,..post pics of ugly old bags that were born a man,..ew,..God, please get rid of that ugly thang…yuk.

  159. KoolKell Says:

    Al Davis is nowhere near a
    Billionaire.

    He’s the poorest owner in the NFL. Always has been.

  160. Norco Bob Says:

    Gary doesnt tweet. :(

  161. Norco Bob Says:

    Lol,..Al is a billionaire,…way over that even,..the King of hiding wealth,..only the smart ones can do that. :)

  162. KoolKell Says:

    Boob

    Gary doesn’t tweet? So sorry for ya.

  163. Norco Bob Says:

    Ever hear the term,..”Oh I have only a few million, that the government knows of anyway”… “)

  164. KoolKell Says:

    Boob

    Can you provide a link attesting to Davis’ wealth?

  165. Norco Bob Says:

    Ya,..but Dibs and Pat do. :)

  166. Norco Bob Says:

    No I cant,..nobody can,…he planned it that way.

  167. KoolKell Says:

    Boob

    What the hell would you know about money?

  168. Norco Bob Says:

    Only losers like you old man post what you have….total loser move.

  169. Norco Bob Says:

    SHARKS!!!!

  170. vegas raider Says:

    Seriously, if we are going to draft a LT, can it be one who is consistant with maybe not the most “upside” and minus the condition and intangible issues.

  171. KoolKell Says:

    Boob

    Losers????? This coming from a Boozin Pill Popper, who hasn’t seen a dentist in 10 years?

  172. Norco Bob Says:

    See old fool,..you cant go a day without obsessing over Als money,..its sad,..old man, just be happy with what you have,..dont be jealous of his wealth…it just makes you angrier and angrier. Let it go bro.

  173. vegas raider Says:

    Go Cal Bears!!!

  174. Norco Bob Says:

    Let it go old man,…you are an old man,..your end is right around the corner,…make the best of the little time you have left,..let go of Al Davis.

  175. vegas raider Says:

    Get a room already!!!

  176. Norco Bob Says:

    It must be awful, to be your age,..and every day you obsess over Old Als money,..are you not aware he doesnt even know you exist?…you dont find that odd that a guy who doesnt even know you exist, you think about every day?…I think thats really weird.

  177. Norco Bob Says:

    Oh crap,..The Big Hurt retired,..he was a great Athletic,..super friendly dude,…always talked to us,…hope he makes it to Cooperstown.

  178. Raiders4eve Says:

    vegas raider

    I personally think that if AL will take an OL, it gotta be Bruce Campbell aka Roidhead. The guy will steal the combine show, he will bench 225 more then 30 times, he will run 4.6 plus he is 6’7 310 pounds. He is muscled up but worries me is that he might be a one and done kind of guy. He only started 17 games and he might have been on the good stuff easy to find and get rid before the combine. Here is what scouts say about him.

    Awareness: There seem to be some awareness issues with Campbell. He’ll become complacent at times during games and get lazy in his technique. Still, he seems like an intelligent football player who is learning more and more how to recognize stunts. Still, Campbell only started 17 games and is a work in progress in this area.

    Initial Quickness: Displays good quickness, but he also played a lot out of a two-point stance. In the pros he’ll have to play with a hand down, and that may affect his quickness on the snap. Gets set smoothly and quickly, especially in the run game. Has good recovery quickness to make up for a slight lack of technical ability.

    Movement: Moves around really nicely in space. Used to come down the line more than most tackles. Shows good footwork. Moves to his outside well when mirroring. Takes on linebackers nicely when working on the second level. Quite agile for an offensive lineman.

    Pass Blocking: Does a really nice job of maximizing his natural length in pass blocking. Played in a blocking scheme that regularly used zone techniques. Because of that, Campbell routinely got help in pass blocking. He may have to learn some how to play on an island. Has shown he has the quickness to handle speed rushers on the outside. Where Campbell needs to improve here is against bull rushers. Doesn’t always get his hands in proper position and lets defenders get under him. If Campbell can keep his pads lower, he should become a very good pass blocker.

    Pulling/Trapping: Although tackles aren’t typically used on pulls, Campbell is solid in this department. He moves smoothly in space and attacks on the second level.

    Run Blocking: The common misconception about Campbell is that he’s a finesse blocker who struggles in the run game. However, Campbell is very good in this area. He does an excellent job of attacking at the point of attack and driving defenders back. Rarely needs help blocking in this area. Gets his base wide and plants his feet in the ground. If he gets a bit stronger in his lower body, he could quickly become one of the best run-blocking tackles in the NFL.

    Size: Possesses optimum height and length to stay at left tackle. Is a very lean offensive lineman.

    Strength: Solid but not spectacular strength. Most of Campbell’s power is in his upper body. Has a long, angular frame that can probably hold 15 more pounds of bulk. Where Campbell needs to get stronger is in his lower body.

    Technique: Here is where Campbell needs to be more consistent. His hand-placement needs to improve. Campbell also needs to do a better job of shuffling his legs. Needs to be more consistent in his power step following his kick slide to seal off the inside rush lane.

    Final Word: Campbell is one of the most intriguing players in this year’s draft. He’s an incredible athlete for an offensive lineman and a natural left tackle. His quickness, upper body strength and size make him ready for the NFL right now, even though he came out following his junior season.

    Campbell’s an attractive talent because he’s shown he can handle a man and zone scheme. This could give him the advantage over other early entrants Bryan Bulaga and Anthony Davis, who are almost strictly man blockers.

    Where Campbell gets negative points is in his inconsistent technique, which could give a line coach fits. Campbell also has a growing history of injuries. Missed time in 2009 with turf toe and an injury to his medial collateral ligament. Campbell started only 17 games in his career, which is a big red flag. Campbell may define the term “boom or bust prospect.”

  179. Raiders4eve Says:

    Key word

    Played in Zone Blocking scheme unlike Anthony Davis.

  180. KoolKell Says:

    Whatever the value of Al Davis’ estate (who gives a rat’s ass) he’s 29-83 as General Manager.

  181. KoolKell Says:

    Ok Vegas

    I’m out.

  182. Raiders4eve Says:

    KK

    Brother, why to you allow ppl to get in your skin? You said you are 58 yrs old, you don’t need to reply to every post that has your name on it. Just enjoy the blog, post what you like and leave. I dont think you are here to make friends but to state your opinion, then do it and bounce or stick around and give your opinion on what others are saying. I am way younger cat, but I hate to see you get blood pressure and start challenging youngsters, btw, you get a girl next to me, she gonna get me twins, I got twin turbo in my family and I have two twins right now. Keep your head bro, you doing fine, you got business, you have nothing to prove to anyone.

  183. Norco Bob Says:

    Lol,..this is toooo funny. :)

  184. Norco Bob Says:

    You tell em Eve,…nice to have a chick in here.

  185. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Well, I went down to Louie’s at 50 and Mather…had a few stiff drinks…saw no Norco Bob, and bartender didn’t know him. Bummer…wait Bob were you here the whole time?

  186. Raiders4eve Says:

    Norco Bob

    Bro, if you read my post, I clearly stated i am a guy. But, if you trying to find a girl for Valentine, my boy throwing huge party for all the singles, $25 for singles only. I can hook you up, its in East Oakland.

  187. vegas raider Says:

    ZINNGERRRR!!!

  188. Raiders4eve Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson

    You drove all the way to Sactown, to see a guy you dont know?????

  189. Norco Bob Says:

    I went to the dang Tumbleweed,..since nobody in here said they would meet me at Louie`s. :(

  190. KoolKell Says:

    4eve

    I’m not always mad when I respond to my fans.

    I make one post, and 3 Trolls appear and takeover the blog for an hour. They want to shut me up and marginalize me. My anti-Al message is the thing.

    But, I know who I am, and how lucky I am. Thanks.

    Maybe some of you good folks could speak up for what’s right once in awhile.

  191. vegas raider Says:

    Here’s the thing Raider4eve.

    We need to fix the O-line. No doubt about it, just like most all positions.

    But look at some of the best O-lines in football, and it isn’t all a bunch of top draft picks. Lots of 3rd rounders and such. OT’s have high draft busts just like every position.

    So if they are going to take one in at #8, which I would prefer not to, please, FKN PLEASE AL, don’t take the combine warrior!!!

    I would prefer to use both 3rd round picks, if we don’t use for a trade, on a RT and a G.

  192. Norco Bob Says:

    We love you old man,..but please,..youre gettingreal old,..watch the blood pressure. lol hahahaha

  193. Norco Bob Says:

    …”I know who I am,..how lucky I am…”,…old kell,..just keep saying that over and over,…over and over,….lol tooooo hilarious!!

  194. vegas raider Says:

    If Campbell can keep his pads lower, he should become a very good pass blocker.

    *************************

    What does this mean? If he doesn’t “lower his pads” (baseball player here so I have no clue what this means) he isn’t going to be a good pass blocker?

    I’ll pass. I don’t trust the Raiders to teach guys how to “lower their pads”.

  195. Raiders4eve Says:

    KK

    We all know the record, we all know whats going on, but it is what it is. By me speaking up about AL wont do me nothing. AL doesnt know I exist. I prefare seeing and predicting which players fit this team. I also like to laugh on some comments, other then that, I watch Basketball games, Football, Baseball, Boxing (gotta love the Welterweight division) and Soccer. I got my twins around me. So life is good, enjoy it, thats all I am saying.

  196. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    Maybe some of you good folks could speak up for what’s right once in awhile.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    How about this: What’s right is not misleading innocent home buyers that they can afford twice the mortgage that they objectively can. Right would be reminding them that the terms they are agreeing to could well bankrupt them when said house does not appreciate.

    You know nothing about righteousness, you miserable parasitic boil.

    Al Davis is Mother Teresa compared to a CA realtor.

  197. Raiders4eve Says:

    vegas raider

    I agree, we can get RT or LT in the lower rounds. But the old man AL always reaches and seems to love the combine more then football. Its as if he is playing fantasy football, he thinks combine results transfers to the NFL. Campbell will bomb this combine I can guarantee to you that. 6′7 310 running 4.6, that by itself will make AL drool all over himself. I am sorry bro, reality is AL likes speedsters not football players.

    Note, lowering his pads was the issue Satele and Morris struggled with this year. Cable can teach it if he focuses on it all day and allows Jackson to coordinate the offense. Its really matter of practice, in football between the two lineman DL vs OL, the OL pads has to be lower than the DL pads to proper block him. Its the single most important technique for both OL and DL to have. Thing is its something easier said then done, you just got to practice and get good at it. Note, that was the same problem Jets LT D’Brickashaw Ferguson had in his first rookie season.

  198. Seymour Bush Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    KoolKell Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    Maybe some of you good folks could speak up for what’s right once in awhile.
    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    You know nothing about righteousness, you miserable parasitic boil.
    ==============================================

    Man, why does that guy come here day in and day out, just to be humiliated and then get his ass handed to him? I’ll bet once he leaves here he probably heads right over to some trippy bondage club where some 325 lb horribly ugly white dominatrix flogs him with a metal spoon for three and half hours the whole time he is screaming about “righteousness.”

  199. Norco Bob Says:

    Old man,..please,..do yourself a favor,..stop being the old man in the blog,…take a step back,…look what youre doing,…its big time weird,…youre almost 60 years old for Christs sake,..stop with the AL Davis obsession,..he doesnt know you exist man.

  200. Seymour Bush Says:

    I am watching the last half of the lst game last year here against San Diego. Holy moly, what a wonderful lst half of football the Raiders played. Russell looks VERY GOOD in that game, the offensive line is playing very well, defensively the team is flying around. The backs are killing it! Then McFumblor coughs it up.

  201. vegas raider Says:

    Raiders4eve,

    Yup Al does love the “measurables”. In all fairness, he certainly isn’t the only GM who does, but it has been such a failure of late with him and his top picks that I would rather just take a guy without as much “upside” but is just going to be a solid player.

  202. vegas raider Says:

    You know a lot of people seem to hate KoolKell and he seems to bring the worst out of some people, but I let him be, and have no problem with him. He wants to win, some just express their frustrations differently.

    Besides he is a vet, and I was taught to respect our vets, no matter how bat shyt crazy they may be.

    Cheers KoolKell

  203. Seymour Bush Says:

    I certainly don’t get it. A couple of people (who shall remain nameless) come in here, get their asses handed to them every day and then leave. Kind of sad really. Fortunately, other than KK, none of the others have been around today.

  204. Raiders4eve Says:

    Vegas

    You right, you gotta respect veterans and elders unless they disrespect you. KK seems like a cool dude, he is successful and his only problem seems to be with AL Davis, just like what Norco said he doesnt even know he exist. KK, you are fan just like us, talk about the draft and free agency. Talk about the players we have, the record thing we all know and truthfully we cant do anything about it. The guys from Messagetoal.com tried it, did it work? No. Why do you thinking you posting 7 years of losses would change anything. Remember, AL wants to win too, he pays millions to see his team wins but his formula is not working, I see some good things this year, getting coaches who actually can coach like Wauffle, Jackson and Pendergast is a change from AL previous hiring of bed and breakfast guys. I believe coaching is what this team needs. My only issue with the personal is that (I know some might disagree), we cant win on consistent basis with JR. We can substitute OL or DL in a game, we can blitz to again certain teams like the Eagles but we can win 11 games with Jamarcus Russel as our QB. I dont see him as franchise QB, he doesnt seem to have “it” factor. Regardless of what you guys think of Gradkowitzki, he has the “it” factor by the way he approaches the game. Our weakest link is the QB position, until we either draft a legit QB or sign/trade for a true veteran QB like Mcnabb. I just dont see us winning 11 games. My guess if we improve this year, our best is 8-8 just like the 49ers. They have the same issues like the Raiders, strong defense, weak offense and no QB = at best 8-8 at worst 5-11.

  205. NorthernD Says:

    The way I see it:
    Consideration is given.
    Respect is earned.
    Admiration won.

  206. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Krappy, I leave for an hour to watch a killer flick on DVD with a few hot French honies, and you implode again?

    Man, I guess I better get used to your nightly meltdowns, you deranged old fool. You’d think an old nut sack like yourself would be calmer after an all day nap and a record setting dump in your Bermuda shorts.

    Anyway, hopefully your wacky ol wife stuck a wad of toilet paper in your mouth to sop up all the drool.

    Drastic measures, you know?

  207. priesttj Says:

    Post#37 just how stupid is this guy?

    Do you guys think that some of the combine speedsters privately hope they run the SECOND fastest time instead of the fastest?
    =======================================================
    It gets dumber and dumber in this place with all fools thinking they have some freakin idea of what teams do or don’t do.

    Jerry can we get a baseline football knowledge requirement in order to pst in here? Well as I think about it that would wittle it down about 10 posters. Not good for business.

    Seymour Bush, Jhill, Oaklglenn, Hazedaze, Terrapin, Chris in NY, Armond, Priesttj and a few others that don’t immediately come to mind. Raiders4eve is a comer also Senior Beecham because he is funny as hell. The rest need to ask questions only.

  208. vegas raider Says:

    LMAO

    Anyone who speaks in 3rd person is a complete and utter tool. Even worse when said 3rd person reference is a blog monikor.

  209. Raiders4eve Says:

    Actually Priesttj, thats the same guy who drove all the way to Sactown to meet Norco Bob without letting him know ahead of time, there is million of ways to communicate with each other, simplest form exchange emails. I was surprised by what BSJ done tonight.

  210. vegas raider Says:

    I think BSJ was just screwing around. He lives a couple of time zones away.

  211. vegas raider Says:

    Well I have went past my 9pm cutoff so I bid farewell.

  212. Raiders4eve Says:

    Priesttj

    I wanted to share this thought with you, when I thought about coach Pendergast hiring as DB coach. The fist question that came into my mind how did the DB do in Arizona, well guess what, his track record is impressive, he developed Adrian Wilson a guy just like MM to become a probowler, he developed Domenick Roger-Cromartie and he also switched Antrel Rolle from CB to FS. Do you think AL Davis brought him in to teach MM how to cover?

  213. priesttj Says:

    Raiders4eve, what makes you think he likes speedsters instead of football players your starting to sound like SnB. Come on man step up your game will ya.

    Michael Bush doesn’t run a 4.3 40. Nor does Justine Fargas. The only players that really have to run well to play here are DB’s and WR’s. But even they have to be players such as Huff, Nnamdi, Mitchell, Branch, CJ, Chaz, Murphy, Higgins, Miller and so forth the only player I thought was a reach out of any f them was DHB. DMC went where he should’ve we just didn’t need him.

    You know it’s really fuuny how now that DMC hasn’t panned out like I said he wouldn’t. Everyone has truned on him. When everyone of you whinned and cried for this guy. Now he’s and Al Davis mistake who shouldn’t have been drafted there are only one maybe two others in here that were questioning that pick.

    Now that he’s a disappointment it’s stupid Al Davis reaching for a stereotypical player. Hindsight is 20 20 isn’t it.

  214. Raiders4eve Says:

    Vegas

    I hope BSJ was screwing around, my eyes popped when I read his post, its like me saying I went to Vegas and asked for Vegas Raider, of course the bartender wont know who Norco Bob is. BSJ, no harm intended bro, just what were you thinking?

  215. Kirk Says:

    Seymour isn’t that good. He played well in the beginning, and then he disappeared. We will end up overpaying for a fading star, again.

  216. priesttj Says:

    Raiders4eve, I think he brought him here t help develope all of them and to help get this defense to the level it needs to be to win a championship. That’s the only reason he brings anyone here. He wants to win another championship. Nothings gauranteed but that’s the plan.

    IMO the ONLY way that happens is if we get that Oline back to where we had it from 2000-2002. That is of paramount concern. If we can do that the rest gets much easier. The defense benefits and the QB and running game get much better.

  217. Raiders4eve Says:

    Priesttj

    By viewing previous drafts and I can go all the way to Tim Brown era, AL clearly likes speed, height and weight criteria for certain positions. I agree with its mostly CB and WRs but all I said its gotta be Bruce Campbell just cause he seems to be what AL likes.

  218. jhill Says:

    I say we roll with Iupati or Bulaga at 8.

  219. jhill Says:

    I wonder if Satele and Walker will start for us next year at C and RG?

  220. priesttj Says:

    IMO from what I’ve seen so far Bulaga is the most polished LT in this draft Iupata seems to be still learning technigue he tends to reach instead of punch and that cuases him to hold a bit. Something that can be cleaned up but it’s an issue.

    Bulaga is a technician with pop and drive. Has a great base with good lateral slide. I really like this kid he is so square whcih allows him to stear better. Damn good football player. I’m going to study Okung he’s the only one I haven’t really studied.

  221. priesttj Says:

    Jhill if we can add a player of Bulaga’s talent to this Oline I think our starting 5 is real good quality. Mario, Gallery, Satele(?), Walker and Bulaga. That is as solid a line as we need. You add to two young TE’s Myers and Miller and that is a damn good line.

    With Hue here we’ll get a feature back in Bush and a weapon in DMC. If we add a great HB like a Gerhardt…WOW!! I’d even take a scatback like McKnight or McCluster for sizzle. That’s the kind of front that I think Russell can grow with.

  222. priesttj Says:

    You know I forgot Anthony Davis who’s a real talent I didn’t think he would come out but he is really good and he’s younger than Bulaga which makes him more attractive when you consider upside potential. But I still think we’d hit a homerun with either player.

    Then we could add quality depth later in this draft. I really think if we get that done this team can get back on top much more quickly. A MLB in the mid rnds would be very necessary though. A corner or WR also late.

  223. jhill Says:

    I wouldn’t expect Iupati to start at OT right away. Putting him next to Satele would help that middle out a lot.

    I tend to think that Barnes is going to get another shot at unseating Mario.

  224. armond Says:

    priest dmc will make u eat those words this year. that dude needs to touch the ball more as well as bush. i hope hue picks both guys to be the primary ballcarriers so we can get them in rhythmn. i definately want gerhardt if he slips. bulaga looks better than alot of these other tak’s rated higher than him. pierce would be a good pickup but id rather have spikes in a way.

  225. jhill Says:

    I don’t like DMAC as a primary ball carrier, but I do like him as a primary weapon. I hope we find ways to get him the ball in space matched up against a LB or S.

  226. armond Says:

    mario did well for his first full season. we need to understand he’s still developing like the other youngins. if we talk wrs i like briscoe and gilyard after the 1rst rnd. btw where is all of the JaNameOfTheDay crowd go? guy is working out in phoenix and jerry cant even post up what espn even mentioned about that. brandon graham derrick morgan we should look out for.

  227. jhill Says:

    Antonio Pierce got cut????

    I think he’d be an upgrade to our MLB situation.

  228. Raiders4eve Says:

    Priesttj

    We already got Bush and DMAC, why waste a pick on Gerhardt and then split the carries between three backs??? Dont you know a running back needs to build momentum meaning the more carries he gets the more productive he becomes and the less they carry the less they produce. We only need two backs one that would carry 20 times hopefully Bush and another that will touch it 10 times which DMAC. You run between 25 to 30 times a game and you good. As far as Bryan Bulaga he has medical concerns dont know if you heard about that, the guy has a serious thyroid condition that might make him fall to the second round unless he addressed right now. My only issue is that he needs to add some weight as 6′6 300 pounds doesn’t impressive me as LT. I also read that his run blocking is work in progress. But he is ready to step as a Raider since he played in a similar system Zone Blocking. Anthony Davis doesnt fit our system, its either Okung, Bulaga or Bruce Campbell. Iupati I think its a huge risk reward with him, to high to draft him 8th overall.

  229. r8eray Says:

    Good Night Nation…till tomorrow!!

  230. armond Says:

    jhill im tellin yall watch dmc get off this year as a rusher and receiver. dude is a rb not a wr. im callin my shot, we will make the playoffs this year. dont care what anyone says the slide ends now. its too obvious what we need and the first smart move was made last year when kirk was challenged for mlb. poor oline we get seymour and the run d is still bad. i refuse to believe al davis doesnt recognize this.

  231. Raiders4eve Says:

    Antonio Pierece wants new money, if AL is willing to pay him, he comes, he wanted a new contract with the Giants while scheduled to make $4.2 mill, so I am guessing the team that gets him must over pay for him. I would rather us over pay MLB Barrett Ruud with that kind of money.

  232. jhill Says:

    Better Oline = better run defense!

    If we convert 3rd and 1’s and keep the QBs upright, the other teams offense won’t be on the field.

  233. jhill Says:

    I don’t think I’m going to wed myself to any players this offseason. Just sticking to the positions we need to upgrade. Don’t even care about the rounds players are drafted in, as long as we get 2 Olinemen, a MLB, a DT, and a corner.

  234. Raiders4eve Says:

    Armond

    With all due respect, we are far far away from the playoff, we are a very young team that is not used to wining. We havent won back to back games and you talking about playoff? Be reasonable with your expectations. Now, drafting rookie OL wont improve this line right away, rookies will tend to make mental mistakes. The NFL is longer season then college and faster game it will take them time to adapt. This team has many needs RT, RG, C depth in LG and LT. Our Wrs arent proven and our QB you know it, DMAC needs more touches. Our defense needs help in DT, MLB, CB.

  235. armond Says:

    yeah jizz he got cut so there is a guy who we may take a shot at. he grew up a raiders fan and he can provide leadership we need. i also like the fact that he won a championship.

  236. armond Says:

    i am being reasonable cuz im expecting some of these damn high round picks to payoff now. dmc and russell alone make this team better if they live up to what they can be. not all of it but alot and i expect some good roster moves like we had last year with sey and ellis. i also expect a consistant offensive gameplan with hue running the show. i also dont expect al davis to want to wait 2 more years to get there, the time is now and i have confidence it will happen. u dont have to be a perfect team to make the playoffs.we had 5 wins and shouldve won the 1rst SD game the 2nd KC game and had a shot with the ravens. thats despite injuries and halfazz efforts by russ and a few others. that is 7-8 wins with a YOUNG team that can get better this year.

  237. KoolKell Says:

    Raiders4Eva,

    Internet Trolls/Al Davis Goons/Whatever, flaming me is about as important as titts on a boar.

    If you don’t think the Raiders are worth complaining about, that’s you.

    Don’t lecture me. You mind your business, I’ll mine mine.

  238. KoolKell Says:

    Do you trust a General Manager who’s 29-83 in the next draft?

  239. KoolKell Says:

    Do you trust a 80yr old General Manager who’s 29-83 in the upcoming draft?

  240. priesttj Says:

    Armond I got no problems with DMc other than the problems I mentioned before we drafted him. He is not a dominant inside the tackles runner I said it B4 the draft and I’n saying it now. He is what he is. If you use him to his strengths he can be one helluva weapon. If you don’t you’ll be very frustrated with him. He just has no vision when running in traffic. He never has been a very skilled runner.

    I never did hear about the ealthy concerns for Bulaga I’ll check on that but he more 315lbs.. If he drops it’s even better. What’s the stuff about Davis not fitting our scheme? who says he doesn’t he can play any scheme………period. Weight can be added or dropped which ever works.

  241. priesttj Says:

    KK obviously we do if we’re in here talking about the team being better. Need you ask?

  242. priesttj Says:

    We fix that Oline and Russell is immediately a better player. With the Wr’s getting games and reps under their belts he gets even better. With the work and experince he’s had eventhough he’s even better. Like I said between 30 and 50 starts they all start too get it. The game starts to slow down and they start to speed up.

    If the line plays well DHB becomes a serious weapon with Russell’s gun. If we can make the defense respect the run.

  243. DKnight007 Says:

    # M Lonetree Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    Indy builds the fastest defense it can and everyone thinks it is great.

    Al drafts for speed and y’all crap all over him.

    Agendas anyone????????

    ^^^^^^^^
    Uh yeah…but there is a difference Indy wins games consistently and Al needs to know how to draft football players first and worry about 2nd.

    The old man Al hasn’t won crap for how many years now 7…going on 8??

    Embarrassing!

  244. DKnight007 Says:

    Al Davis SUCKS!!

  245. Raiders4eve Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 10:48 pm

    Raiders4Eva,

    Internet Trolls/Al Davis Goons/Whatever, flaming me is about as important as titts on a boar.

    If you don’t think the Raiders are worth complaining about, that’s you.

    Don’t lecture me. You mind your business, I’ll mine mine.
    ==================================

    No hard feelings and no harm intended, you feel me bro!!! I aint trying lecture nobody, my bad if you felt that way, i just gave you a friendly advice take it or leave it is up to dawg. Keep complaining about the Raiders and I will keep posting what needs to be done, I rather talk positive then the negative that we all are aware about.

  246. DKnight007 Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    Do you trust a 80yr old General Manager who’s 29-83 in the upcoming draft?

    ^^^^^^^^
    F**K nooooooooooo!

  247. priesttj Says:

    so do you!!

  248. Raiders4eve Says:

    DKnight007

    The only difference between Indy and Raiders is the QB, whats Indy without Peyton probably 5-11 team or maybe 3-13.

  249. priesttj Says:

    Raiders4eve, your become a grown man great post. And it is very true.

  250. DKnight007 Says:

    People it doesn’t matter what we talk about when it comes to improving the team and the obvious things that need to be done as we have for the last 7 miserable years!

    The old delusional looney man Al will F**K it up….as always!

    More blackouts to come in 2010.

  251. DKnight007 Says:

    # Raiders4eve Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 11:26 pm

    DKnight007

    The only difference between Indy and Raiders is the QB, whats Indy without Peyton probably 5-11 team or maybe 3-13.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Thats only one of the big differences……the other big difference is the GM and Personnel Men who run the show and get players. Polian has done a far better job than the old man Al when it comes to building a team and drafting.

  252. Raiders4eve Says:

    Priesttj

    If an OL played man blocker all his life in high school and college, dont expect him to learn to play zone right away, if it was that easy, you would see us keeping that kid Kevin Boothe who now plays with the Giants. You would see teams taking any OL available, Zone blocking scheme needs certain OL, small and atheltic usually. Research it if you dont believe me.

  253. priesttj Says:

    so then why are you here,, to just whine and cry!!!

    now there’s a fun time. sure there’s something else better to do.

  254. DKnight007 Says:

    Priesst is crackhead and a lost Al Davis pitiful loser lap dog.

    Your not a Raider fan Priesst, your an Al Davis fan.

    LOL!

  255. priesttj Says:

    Raiders4eve I know already I watched the original design of the ZBS with Bob McKittrick for the 49ers years ago. I watched them leg wip other teams because they couldn’t block them.

    This team is migrating to a more physical power blocking scheme and that’s why players like Walkeer were brought in Walker is 340 lbs. Gallery is 330 Mario 330 it’s changing truct me.

  256. priesttj Says:

    And your an idiot!!

  257. DKnight007 Says:

    priesttj Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 11:31 pm

    so then why are you here,, to just whine and cry!!!

    now there’s a fun time. sure there’s something else better to do

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Awww…..poor baby lap dog. Did I hurt your feelings again by stating the obvious how your master Al Davis has ruined the Raider franchise?

    Didn’t mean to make you cry again. Maybe you should go run to your master and daddy old man Al so he can pet you?

    LOL

  258. Raiders4eve Says:

    The way I see it, we are two years away from being in the playoff team. We need our young rosters to jell together. Leadership is built through continuity, thats what Indy got, same coaches for how many x years now. I believe Cable staying as a coach and supplying with him Wauffle, Jackson and Pendergast is a step in the right direction. I am happy AL finally figure out whats missing in this team, good coaches to teach this young roster. Now, if JR really works out hard and wins an open competition against Gradkowitzki then I am for one rooting for him. I dont like things been handed to a player just because of his potential, he has to earn the right to play QB for the Oakland Raiders. This team has a legacy and every player has to understand and be proud to wear the Silver and Black. Come Sunday, they need to be ready to give it their all effort that is all I am asking as a fan. When I dont see a guy giving it all thats when I am pissed, I like the talent in this team, they need leadership and coaching. What would a GM do? Draft better ok, I dont think we drafted bad, I mean DMAC can be a great player, JR needs to grow up and learn, DHB if he learns to catch the ball can be top receiver in this league. The talent is right there and now we have the coaches that can lead this team, hopefully we get back to .500 ball game and then win the division the year after.

  259. priesttj Says:

    Also Davis is extremely athletic just in case you didn’t know. I compare him favorably to Denvers LT from Boise St.

  260. Raiders4eve Says:

    Priesttj

    So you saying we switching to physical power blocking scheme, hmm then whats Cable purpose as our head coach???

    He only knows Zone Blocking he is the de facto, Head coach/Offensive Line coach, if we moving to physical man blocking scheme, shouldn’t a new OL coach be introduced? It doesnt make sense, enlighten me.

  261. priesttj Says:

    Cable is a proponent of the ZBS but it can easily emphasize some pulls and traps if the coach is open to them. We use to run the ZBS many years ago with Mike Shanahan. And we quickly went o a power game with Art when Mike was firednow Art was also a very good Oline coach. If we bring in a guy or use the coach we have now it wouldn’t be that difficult to add pulls and traps. The power game can come in time.

  262. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Bo Schembechler…..

    This is how it’s done:

    Raiders4eve Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    The way I see it, we are two years away from being in the playoff team.

    ……………..

    Now there’s a true fan who’s not afraid to give his honest assessment of his team. Raiders4eve, you have my respect. Unlike Bo, who sits in here every day questioning the loyalty of people who criticize the team, and when asked what he thinks of the team and its chances, runs under a rock and refuses to answer. Because he has no faith in the team whatsoever. Plus, he admitted he’s loyal to Al Davis. What kind of football fan knows their team sucks, knows their team will never get better under current management, yet sticks up for that management? Just a piece of work. But I will come back and have another laugh at him tomorrow.

  263. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 2:22 pm

    I hate to see my friends in here have sad days,…I sure hope MR doesnt become like old kell,…MR, dont let this Raider stuff bum ya out,..just football baby,…go smoke some grass, hang out at the river,…meet me at Louie`s on Mather tonight,..have some drinks, play some darts…enjoy ourselves….we wont even bring up football bro. :)

    …………..

    Translation:

    People who talk bad about Al Davis just aren’t cool enough to smoke grass, hang out at rivers, have drinks, and play darts. Well then, you got me, Norco. I’m done bashing Al. I will meet you to play darts. Let me see if I have a flannel.

  264. Raiders4eve Says:

    MR

    Much love brother, appreciate your complement. Good night everyone

  265. raidertbone Says:

    Okay Nation, I am starting early on the East Coast (good morning!) Look, we all know the draft is a crap shoot; we also know that bringing in free agents works sometimes, and sometimes not. Last year, we got rid of the cancerous Burgess and FINALLY got rid of Terdell; we also brought in Mario (good), took a chance on Khalif (jury is still out on that one), added Seymour and Ellis (great, in my opinion) and decided to keep Stanford instead of Gibril (well, what can I say?). We brought in Mitchell, who shows potential, and got some good production out of Huff. Our running game has still untapped potential, and we have some good receivers, although no one stellar. If we can add four or five quality players either through the draft or free agency, we’re at .500 this year. I still say McClain is the guy we should go for first, offensive line second, defensive line third (unless either Pike or Lefevour is still on the board). GET RID OF SANJAY! BRING IN ROBISKIE! Okay, enough with the rant — pay Sey and Seabass their money, and let’s fire up the engines. Oh, and let’s just have a nice box of Krispy Kremes waiting for J-Roll on the first day of training camp — if he shows up like he did last year, he can consider it as his “parting gift”!

  266. raidertbone Says:

    Oh, and just go ahead and jettison Lawton, Losman, Nixon, Javon, and Miller (love that last guy, but he is too small and frail).

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  269. weaselbit Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
    Looks like Al’s going to ruin Seymour’s career and make even another enemy. Be interesting to hear Seymour’s dish on this team after he leaves, to tack on to what Sapp, Brown, and Gannon have already said. And, even more fun, watching Al’s loyalists just squirm.

    Weasel: Of course you would find that interesting because you’re an idiot. Sapp never performed w/ the Raiders and is now an out of work woman beater, Brown caught plenty but always dropped the ones that count like playoffs or 3rd and whatever. And Gannon threw 5 interceptions all year and then 5 more in the SB only to become completely irrelevant the following year. of course, in your troll-mind it’s all the Raider’s fault.

  270. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    I hope Al finds a way, like last year! But…

  271. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,FUNNY HOW IF SOME PEOPLE HAVE OPINION’S THAT DIFFER FROM OTHER’S, THEY ARE MORON’S OR IDIOT’S..

  272. bcz24 Says:

    Gannon didnt become irrelevent the following year… he broke his effing neck!

  273. bcz24 Says:

    Your an idiot for typing in all caps!LoL… Im just bustin on ya.

  274. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The Jacksonville Jaguars have released receiver Torry Holt, left tackle Tra Thomas and defensive tackle Rob Meier.

    ***

    should the Raiders think about grabbing one of these vets?

  275. RaiderRockstar Says:

    go ahead and jettison Lawton, Losman, Nixon, Javon, and Miller (love that last guy, but he is too small and frail).

    ***

    Tbone:

    why Losman?

    and why not Gerard Warren or Tommy Kelly?

  276. bcz24 Says:

    I think Tory Holt would be an excellent mentor for Murphy and DHB, but not productive at all on the field. Tra Thomas at his age probably wouldnt benefit us much at all.

  277. bcz24 Says:

    I think the Raiders would be VERY foolish in letting Losman go before giving him a real chance.

  278. RaiderRockstar Says:

    DMAC can be a great player, JR needs to grow up and learn, DHB if he learns to catch the ball can be top receiver in this league. The talent is right there and now we have the coaches that can lead this team, hopefully we get back to .500 ball game and then win the division the year after.

    ***

    wow 4eve. the eternal optimist

    I like the choice of words you used. “can be” and “learn” which basically means they still have potential, even though they haven’t produced on the football field to date. Right?

  279. RaiderRockstar Says:

    BCZ: you wouldn’t swap Holt & Thomas for Walker & Green?

    I would. faster than you could type a response!

  280. bcz24 Says:

    I said we should get Holt. Awesome mentor for our young receivers, I’m just telling you he wouldnt be very productive ON the field for us. Sure I would trade Thomas for Green, but Im hoping via a solid draft that that wont be necessary… and DHB will never be a top receiver in this league even if he learns how to catch. Just my opinion

  281. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    HEY ROCKSTAR,BCZ.IF HOLT WIL BE MORE MENTOR THAN PLAYER,HIRE HIM AS COACH,IF HE WILL GO 4 THAT..

  282. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Tra Thomas would help. Hell, I’d suit up Jackie Slater or Irv Eatman at this point. And remember, Mo Collins is only 33 years old…

  283. neilb Says:

    Good morning all.

  284. neilb Says:

    Would love to see Holt in silver and black.

    What about Antonio Pierce ?

  285. hwnrdr Says:

    BCZ: No Gannon was irrelevant the year following the SB. He was playing scared the whole year until he got hurt. Then we had Rick Mirer come in when Tui went down in his first ever start against FN Detroit. I think even Tee Martin played that year…haha

    Gannon broke his neck the year after against Tampa, Sapps first year! Then it was the Kerry Collins era…

  286. neilb Says:

    Trade Dmac for Tee Martin!!

  287. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Holt had 51 catches for 722 yards last year and 64 catches for 796 yards and 3 TD’s the year before that.

    thats probably what we could expect to get from him in 2010.

    He’ll turn 34 years old during training camp.

    our best WR last year (Murphy) only had 34 catches for 521 yards and 4 TD’s.

    our best WR the year before that (Higgins) only had 22 catches for 366 yards and 4 TD’s.

    We need some serious help at the WR position until one of these young guys can step up and become a #1 WR

  288. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Hey Tory Holt is no Sanjay Lal…

  289. jhill Says:

    No thanks on the Ex Jags!

    Henderson, Gallery, Satele, Walker, rookie OT/Barnes

  290. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Trade Dmac for Tee Martin!!

    ***

    Tee Martin convinced Al to draft JaMarcus Russell

    no thanks.

  291. bcz24 Says:

    I think Antonio Pierce would be a great pick up for us. I also think we should go after Umenyiora because he clearly wants NO part of the Giants after last season

  292. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Can you guys believe Barry Sims is still on the niner roster?

  293. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    I AGREE HWNRDR,GANNON NEVER RECOVERD MENTALY FROM THE SUPER BOWL FIASCO.

  294. neilb Says:

    I’d rather have Holt with 50 catches and 500+ yards as Walker with…….er…….er……..er!!

  295. jhill Says:

    Wassup Neilb!

    Antonio Pierce should surely get a look.

    We don’t need Holt taking reps away from Murphy, Chaz, or DHB.

  296. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Satele, Walker & Barnes starting on the O-Line for 16 games = another 5-11 season at best

  297. 4evaRaider Says:

    Morning Nation!

  298. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Can you guys believe Barry Sims is still on the niner roster?

    ***

    BSJ, believe it or not Barry Sims is the best Tackle we’ve had since Lincoln Kennedy retired (2003)

  299. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Satele should be a backup guard…

  300. neilb Says:

    I know Pierce is an injury risk but with Wauffle(sp?)back at the Raiders you never know.Might fill that middle ‘backers spot and let us take the best DT available.

  301. neilb Says:

    Morning Jhill and 4eva!!

  302. RaiderRockstar Says:

    speaking of Lincoln Kennedy …

    if Brett Favre can still play at a high level at 40 years old, can Big Link do the same?

    today is his 39th B-Day.

    go get our stopgap RT Al !!!

  303. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 6:41 am

    BSJ, believe it or not Barry Sims is the best Tackle we’ve had since Lincoln Kennedy retired (2003)

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Thats like picking the best dogpile in my back yard…

  304. 4evaRaider Says:

    Morning Neilb! we got NE England weather today here in fl….been like this 4a week now

  305. vegas raider Says:

    priesttj Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
    We fix that Oline and Russell is immediately a better player. With the Wr’s getting games and reps under their belts he gets even better. With the work and experince he’s had eventhough he’s even better. Like I said between 30 and 50 starts they all start too get it. The game starts to slow down and they start to speed up.

    ******************************************

    I agree with this 100%.

    But the same would hold true for Bruce as well, no?

  306. neilb Says:

    “Peas up my nose,
    peas up my nose,
    walking down the street with peas up my nose”.

    I’ve been in touch with General Larry Platt,Jhill,and that’s going to be his next single.

  307. jhill Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 6:39 am

    Satele, Walker & Barnes starting on the O-Line for 16 games = another 5-11 season at best

    ——————————————————-

    Satele is starting, I think we all know that.

    Walker at RG instead of Carlisle is about 40 more lbs of beef. Walker will not get pushed back in the pocket, bull rushed, or pancaked.

    I was hoping the rookie OT would win that spot, but if you have Barnes beating him out, then that means Barnes stepped his game up.

    We’re going to go 8-2 against the NFC and AFC West next year. 11 win season!

  308. neilb Says:

    You mean it’s cold,wet and windy 4eva ?!!

  309. jhill Says:

    You have to change that last lyric to ….

    Sittin on the porch with peas up my nose.

  310. neilb Says:

    Consider it done.

  311. jhill Says:

    But the same would hold true for Bruce as well, no?

    ——————————————————-

    I just don’t get how you gave up on Losman and are now back on Grads?

  312. neilb Says:

    Talking ’bout the O-Line,I’d rather see the Raiders go out and get proven veteran free-agents than use a draft pick.

  313. RaiderRockstar Says:

    We’re going to go 8-2 against the NFC and AFC West next year. 11 win season!

    ***

    sounds good on paper Jhill. But Davis is still the GM, Cable is still the HC and Russell is still the QB until further notice. plus if you’re correct and we’re sticking with scrubs on the OL we’ll probably go 2-8 against the NFC and AFC West next year. another 11+ loss season!

  314. jhill Says:

    I would like to see us draft a stud who plays on our line for the next 10 years. Even if we get him in round 5.

  315. vegas raider Says:

    jhill Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 6:52 am
    But the same would hold true for Bruce as well, no?

    ——————————————————-

    I just don’t get how you gave up on Losman and are now back on Grads?

    ********************************************

    Hey just rattling the cage early in the morning. The same would also hold true for Losman as well, it just seems Bruce is a little more of the vocal leader type.

    That’s all I want, a little fire. If Jamarcus throws 15 TD’s and 10 int’s and still seems to not care I won’t be happy. If he throws 10 TD’s and 15 int’s and shows some fire and leadership, I would be much more happier.

  316. neilb Says:

    Could have had one of three “cadillac’s” last year.

  317. vegas raider Says:

    jhill Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 6:58 am
    I would like to see us draft a stud who plays on our line for the next 10 years. Even if we get him in round 5.

    *******************************

    YESSSS!!!!

    I fell like my hard work is paying off, lol.

    I will one up you, both 3rd round picks at RT and a G (unless of course we go OT at #8).

    And if we go O-line at #8, please take the guy without as much “upside” but rather the guy that is the best fit to start right away and be solid for 10 years.

    I have a feeling Al is going to draft Campbell or Davis, and the rap on them is “incredible upside, great athletes, conditioning and intangible questions”.

    No thanks.

  318. 4evaRaider Says:

    Yep Neilb….cold rainy and windy.38 degrees here and being surronded by water the humidity is like a bazillion%

  319. jhill Says:

    Cmon RRS,

    Stl, Sea, and AZ are locks.

    KC and Dungver? 4 more wins.

    Cable is no longer calling plays or wearing 10 hats. Russell was 3rd string last I checked. And ha ha ha at your Al joke.

  320. hwnrdr Says:

    Antonio Pierce will probably be a good pick up. Shoot, if Unyemura (sp?) wants out still…lets get him in!!!

  321. jhill Says:

    If Jamarcus throws 15 TD’s and 10 int’s and still seems to not care I won’t be happy. If he throws 10 TD’s and 15 int’s and shows some fire and leadership, I would be much more happier.

    ——————————————————-

    LOL!

    I’ll take the 15 TDs. Fire is so over rated. I’ll take a good game plan and some completions from the quiet guy all day long.

  322. neilb Says:

    Whats the deal with Umenyiora (that right sp?) in New York ?

  323. vegas raider Says:

    Fire is not over-rated. You see Drew Brees before the games? Ray Lewis?

    Those guys demand more from their teammates, not just through their play, but calling guys out and getting in their face.

    The last time we were winning was with a fiery, under-talented but very accurate QB. I just want to repeat the recipe.

  324. jhill Says:

    Vegas,

    At this point, I don’t care what round we take a guy in, as long as we end up with 2 OL, a MLB, a DT, and a CB.

    Even FA can fill those spots.

    Green and Carlisle need to be replaced.

    Warren in year 11 should be a backup.

  325. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Whats the deal with Umenyiora (that right sp?) in New York ?

    ***

    Osi is fine. that is so overplayed. NYG fired their DC Bill Sheridan to please the sensitive players and replaced him with Perry Fewell from Buffalo. it’s all good now

  326. vegas raider Says:

    And if it is Jamarcus with the fire, it would be the best first step in the right direction.

    He can show up at 280 pounds, but with a fiery in his belly and some leadership and it will resonate.

    He can be 250, but if he is still moping around, avoiding the media and not being the leader that the QB IS REQUIRED TO BE IN THE NFL, it won’t matter.

    Well at least IMO. Lots of hypotheticals there, lol

  327. neilb Says:

    Sorry to hear that 4eva.We’ve had sleet the last couple of days and are forecast snow this weekend.

  328. neilb Says:

    Thanks for the info Rockstar.

  329. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Stl, Sea, and AZ are locks.

    KC and Dungver? 4 more wins.

    Cable is no longer calling plays or wearing 10 hats. Russell was 3rd string last I checked.

    ***

    when in the last 7 years has a Raider opponent ever been considered a “lock” or “easy win” ?

    those teams think the same thing when they see Oakland on the schedule

    so you’re excited about Hue Jackson calling plays, but still expect Russell to remain 3rd string when the sole purpose for his arrival in Oakland was to save Russell? LOL.

  330. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for a hypothetical!

  331. neilb Says:

    Trade Dmac for 10 hats!

  332. jhill Says:

    Vegas,

    All that “stuff” your talking about means nothing man. It’s all going to come down to what he does on the field. If he gets us in the end zone a few times, and we win games, he’ll be the toast of the town. If he fumbles the rock away, and throws picks, he won’t.

    If Grads doesn’t get lucky with the dropped game ending INTs, you would not be here talking about his fiery SORRY ass, lol.

  333. RaiderRockstar Says:

    if it is Jamarcus with the fire, it would be the best first step in the right direction.

    ***

    Vegas,

    A leopard can’t change his spots

  334. jhill Says:

    those teams think the same thing when they see Oakland on the schedule

    ——————————————————-

    LMFAO!

  335. RaiderRockstar Says:

    trade the walrus for a lock!

  336. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    the sole purpose for his arrival in Oakland was to save Russell

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Not true. Even the Raiders HQ said so.

  337. jhill Says:

    so you’re excited about Hue Jackson calling plays, but still expect Russell to remain 3rd string when the sole purpose for his arrival in Oakland was to save Russell? LOL.

    ——————————————————-

    Russell is not the only guy Al drafted. DMAC, Bush, DHB, Miller, Henderson … The all need to get on track.

    Hue was brought in an interviewed with AL for 4 days because we needed a new plan of attack. I think you will see our players used differently. I think we are going to see 2 new offensive linemen, MLB, and DT. I think we will see a big improvement in the big plays we gave up on D. Year 2 in Marshall’s defense will be even better.

  338. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Not true. Even the Raiders HQ said so.

    ***

    we all know how truthful Davis & Herrerra are with the media :)

    they just love to divulge info to the public!

  339. jhill Says:

    You KNOW Al is going to bring in a high priced FA or trade for someone. Who is he spending $ on this offseason?

    Peppers?

    Wilfork?

  340. jhill Says:

    Do we draft Morgan or Pierre Paul at 8 or sign Peppers?

  341. jhill Says:

    Draft Suh, McCoy, or Williams? Or sign Wilfork?

  342. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Russell is not the only guy Al drafted. DMAC, Bush, DHB, Miller, Henderson … The all need to get on track.

    ***

    Miller? Zach Miller doesn’t need to work on anything. He’s a Pro Bowl calibur player. The only thing he needs to change is his ice pack after Russell hangs him out to dry each game. Give ZM a decent QB and watch him shine

    as for those other 5 guys? If Hue Jackson can save 3 of them he’ll be considered a miracle worker and probably replace Tom Cable as HC

  343. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Let the Pats throw big money at Peppers.

    We’ll take Vince Wilfork off their hands!

  344. neilb Says:

    Wouldn’t want Peppers.Seems like he just wants the money and screw the team.

  345. 4evaRaider Says:

    Yep Seymour is a great pick-up 4 us….leave well enough alone….Draft da uglies on both sides of the ball

  346. 4evaRaider Says:

    Ellis too

  347. jhill Says:

    Miller plays TE man! He needs to work on his blocking!

    And I guess you agree with Cable saying Russell shouldn’t look to get Miller the ball so much. Not quite sure how he makes the pro bowl with Russell hanging the WRs out to dry instead of him though.

  348. hwnrdr Says:

    Have a good day nation and enjoy the weekend!!!

  349. jhill Says:

    Keith Bullock is a FA. Might be worth kicking his tires at MLB.

  350. jhill Says:

    Antonio Bryant ????

    Can Chaz play more than 8 games a year? WillNick Miller be healthy?

  351. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Not quite sure how he makes the pro bowl with Russell hanging the WRs out to dry instead of him though.

    ***

    read it again. I said he DOES hang Miller out to dry. remember those comments from Tony Gonzalez? watch any games?

    and if you didn’t know Zach Miller missed the Pro Bowl this year.

    mostly due to who we had at QB, but his blocking skills. Zach Miller is a dual threat. he’s known for his blocking. check the facts before posting please. you’re probably thinking of Greg Olsen or something…

  352. jhill Says:

    How can you not be excited about the prospect of adding Pepper to our Dline?

    He’s going to be an unrestricted FA. Who else is going to even bid? It’s not like he’ll get anywhere near Haynesworth $.

  353. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Keith Bullock is a FA. Might be worth kicking his tires at MLB.

    ***

    Keith Bullock has played OLB for 10 seasons. He turns 33 years old before the draft. finished last season on IR (knee). not exactly the ideal time for a guy to change positions and do something he’s never done before, is it?

    Excellent player though. love to have him on this team at OLB. somebody needs to teach Howard & Scott how to shed blocks

  354. 4evaRaider Says:

    but we already have 4 DE’s

  355. jhill Says:

    Did u really break out the watch any games take? While using Gonzales’ take instead of something you might have seen for yourself?

    LMFAO!

    I know what you said, and I guess you coffee hasn’t kicked in because I DISAGREE!

    Russell throws the ball to Miller when he is double and tripled covered. Whay you call, hanging out to dry, GET IT?

    Because Russell throws the ball to Miller so much, reference Tom Cable comments, Miller’s stats are pretty decent as well as some of the catches he makes being so well covered. Good stats, good catched in traffic = pro bowl talk from ESPN fan. you know, like Allen Iverson and Tracy McGrady getting voted into the All Star game, lol.

    If you watched ALL of the games, you’d know that Millers blocking skills are shall we say not on par with his receivign skills.

  356. jhill Says:

    Peppers-Seymour-Kelly-Shaugnessy

    Ellis, Warren, Bryant, rookie = backups.

  357. RaiderRockstar Says:

    knock Zach Miller’s blocking all you want, but you’re just making yourself look more ignorant by the minute

    next you’re gonna tell me that Brandon Myers is a terrible blocking TE as well, right?

  358. raidertbone Says:

    Peppers? No way! He’s just a money man now.
    Tra Thomas? No way, Jose!
    Vince Wilfork? Wishful thinking – Pats are going to lock him up?
    Tory Holt? Why not? After all, didn’t we bring in Sammie Parker last offseason? (didn’t he and Javon make a productive pair?!)
    Pierce? I’d be all over that one.
    Uminyura? If he’s available, hell yes!

    As to my previous comment, I suppose it wouldn’t hurt to take Losman into training camp, although I certainly don’t see him as a viable starter on our offense.

  359. RaiderRockstar Says:

    how many other posters think that we can win 11 games next season with Satele, Walker & Barnes starting on the O-Line ???

  360. neilb Says:

    Jhill,I just think that the money spent on Peppers would be better spent elsewhere and I think DE is one position we’re okay.

  361. raidertbone Says:

    # jhill Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 6:49 am

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 6:39 am

    Satele, Walker & Barnes starting on the O-Line for 16 games = another 5-11 season at best

    ——————————————————-

    Satele is starting, I think we all know that.

    Walker at RG instead of Carlisle is about 40 more lbs of beef. Walker will not get pushed back in the pocket, bull rushed, or pancaked.

    I was hoping the rookie OT would win that spot, but if you have Barnes beating him out, then that means Barnes stepped his game up.

    We’re going to go 8-2 against the NFC and AFC West next year. 11 win season!
    __________________________________-

    jhill:
    I am so glad that your optimistic view has us winning 11 games next season … Cannibis IS legal now, right?

  362. jhill Says:

    Nah .. Meyers is actaully a really good blocker. How many times did I say we should have gone more two TE with him in the game to release Miller into the pattern?

    Miller is NOT as good of a blocker as he is a receiver. Not talking about his rep, or what he did in college. He was part of the max protection Olines that were getting our QBs knocked all around. WTF were you watching? Keep the TE in to block and our QB is still getting killed? LMFAO!

  363. jhill Says:

    neilb Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 7:58 am

    Jhill,I just think that the money spent on Peppers would be better spent elsewhere and I think DE is one position we’re okay.

    ——————————————————-

    The point is we know our owner. Al has spent big $ on FAs the past 2 offseasons. Who is it going to be this year. Peppers is the biggest fish on the market.

  364. raidertbone Says:

    Speaking of blocking : Now we all know why Lawton never blocked anyone whenever he was in the game!

  365. jhill Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 7:56 am

    how many other posters think that we can win 11 games next season with Satele, Walker & Barnes starting on the O-Line ???

    ——————————————————

    You really think Barnes is going to win the OT spot, huh? Pretty optimistic!

  366. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Keep the TE in to block and our QB is still getting killed?

    ***

    Miller stayed in the help Henderson block at the end of 2008 and everybody thought Mario Henderson was the next Gene Upshaw.

    Henderson was alone on an island this year and looked like Kwame Harris or Khalif Barnes

    blame our pass protection on the TE? are you nuts?

    debate football with Bob, Kell, MR or Priest. you might have the upper hand on them (barely)

  367. raidertbone Says:

    # jhill Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 8:00 am

    neilb Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 7:58 am

    Jhill,I just think that the money spent on Peppers would be better spent elsewhere and I think DE is one position we’re okay.

    ——————————————————-

    The point is we know our owner. Al has spent big $ on FAs the past 2 offseasons. Who is it going to be this year. Peppers is the biggest fish on the market.
    ____________________________________________

    Understand your point, but it makes no sense at all — we already brought in Ellis and Seymour … that’s enough “graybeards” along the front line!

  368. neilb Says:

    Jhill,I wouldn’t be at all shocked if Al did go after Peppers.Just saying other areas need more help.

  369. jhill Says:

    So Rockstart doesn’t like the idea of Langston Walker at RG instead of Carlisle, lol. Can’t see the benefit of adding that beef to OG. Probably didn’t notice how Walker beef improved the Oline instead of the lightweight Morris when Gallery went down. Beef man! BEEF!

  370. raidertbone Says:

    Khalif is just lucky he was out with injury a lot this year, or we’d be running him out of town on a rail, already!

  371. neilb Says:

    Trade Dmac for some beef!

  372. jhill Says:

    Pepper is a gray beard? LOL!

    Makes no sense to bring in arguably the best DE in the game?

    Really?

  373. neilb Says:

    Time for me to go.

    Have a great weekend everyone.

  374. Norco Bob Says:

    Oh man, what a long night it was, a night without my dear friends in Jerrys World, well, lets just say it was a long night. :(

  375. raidertbone Says:

    Can you imagine Kwame, Khalif and Cornell all on the same offensive line? The quarterback would look like Kurt Warner, after the New Orleans game!

  376. Norco Bob Says:

    But enough with the sadness, we are together now, thats all that matters. :)

  377. Norco Bob Says:

    Look, screw the team, I have something very very important to discuss with you all,…but we all need to be here in the room together,…but you will all be a part of it,..I need and value your input,..ok?

  378. raidertbone Says:

    # jhill Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 8:06 am

    Pepper is a gray beard? LOL!

    Makes no sense to bring in arguably the best DE in the game?

    Really?
    ______________________________________________

    USED to be the best defensive end in the game, bar none. Now, he’s just a whining, complaining money man, who is willing to throw anyone else under the bus. I can only imagine what he would do if he arrived in Raider Nation. If we’re going to go after another veteran, I’d rather take a chance on (gulp!) Terrell Owens.

  379. RaiderRockstar Says:

    how many other posters think that we can win 11 games next season with Satele, Walker & Barnes starting on the O-Line ???

    nobody yet Jhill … starting to get nervous?

  380. raidertbone Says:

    #

    :)
    # Norco Bob Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 8:09 am

    Look, screw the team, I have something very very important to discuss with you all,…but we all need to be here in the room together,…but you will all be a part of it,..I need and value your input,..ok?
    ________________________________________
    Oh No! Norco Bob is about to reveal that he is actually the Lindbergh baby!

  381. jhill Says:

    You might want to stick to debating with the your family and church memebers, lol!

    Hilarious how you’re twisting this Miller thing.

    Again, the original comment was Hue was brought here to get the entire offense going, not just Russell. You disagreed with that and think he’s here just to tutor Russell.

    You quote Tony Gonzales to back up your point that Russell hangs Miller out to dry? LMFAO. Has Miller beed hurt or on the sideline because of Russell? In one breath, he’s a pro bowl caliber TE, and in the next breath the QB who he plays with that hangs him out to dry? that makes no sense!

    Now your side point of Miller’s blocking is just a distraction from your ridiculous point of Russell hanging Miller out to dry.

  382. Norco Bob Says:

    No, Im no baby,…didnt that little shyt get killed anyway?…ok so when all are here, and answer to the roll call, we will then discuss something very important, and you all will be a part of it,..and its big!!!…you will all be excited, I promise! :)

  383. jhill Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 8:10 am

    how many other posters think that we can win 11 games next season with Satele, Walker & Barnes starting on the O-Line ???

    nobody yet Jhill … starting to get nervous?

    ——————————————————-

    LMFAO!

    You’re getting desperate.

    YOU are the one who have Barnes starting at RT, not me. But don’t let that get in your way, lol.

  384. 4evaRaider Says:

    Shoot Norco Bob

  385. Norco Bob Says:

    Nope, not yet bro, not all here,…can you call them or something?…lets get this rolling.

  386. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Has Miller beed hurt or on the sideline because of Russell?

    ***

    Zach Miller had 2 concussions last year.

    I’m done. you know nothing

  387. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    jhill Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 8:05 am
    So Rockstart doesn’t like the idea of Langston Walker at RG instead of Carlisle, lol. Can’t see the benefit of adding that beef to OG. Probably didn’t notice how Walker beef improved the Oline instead of the lightweight Morris when Gallery went down. Beef man! BEEF!

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    We may need beef, but beef with talent. Langston is not that guy, even if he is from Oakhole/Cal. You Nocals have Bay-opia.

  388. raidertbone Says:

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 8:16 am

    Shoot Norco Bob
    __________________________________

    Easy now … Norco just wanted you all to know that he is starting a pot farm venture and wants you all to buy into his little operation!

  389. Norco Bob Says:

    Oh screw it,..ok 4eva,..heres the dealio,…for the next few months, we will all exchange opinions, thoughts, ideas,…to compete with Darth Raider and Gorilla Rilla,…now that I am in row 1, finally,..we will all have a hand in deciding just what Norco Bob will be wearing in row 1,…a cool kickaasss costume…something really hip…lets be serious, and creative,..Im thinking something like a cool pirate,..but am open to all your ideas,..even yours old kell!!!…and I am open to treating a few of you this season to sit with me at a few games,..in row 1!!!…ok, lets hear it!!!…the one that helps with the winning idea the most, can choose what game he or she wants to sit in row 1 at!

  390. jhill Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 8:17 am

    Has Miller beed hurt or on the sideline because of Russell?

    ***

    Zach Miller had 2 concussions last year.

    I’m done. you know nothing

    ——————————————————-

    LOL!

    I didn’t think you knew what you were talking about. That was just too easy, lol. You OBVIOUSLY didn’t see the play in the Washington game. Miller caught the pass, ran over TWO guys, and THEN took a helmet to helmet hit trying to get the first down.

    LOL, yeah it’s time for you to get some work done.

  391. Norco Bob Says:

    I am actually growing 15 plants this year,..as per the regulations,…according to my medical card and county I live in…(El Dorado)

  392. jhill Says:

    We may need beef, but beef with talent. Langston is not that guy, even if he is from Oakhole/Cal. You Nocals have Bay-opia.

    ——————————————————

    I’m not from the Bay.

    Simply put, Walker would be a better option than Carlisle. It’s not that hard. But Iupati would be a better option than Walker and Carlisle. Why is that getting lost? Bulaga, the rookie I want, is a better option than Green. Barnes will be on the roster, and Rockstar seems to think he will win the RT spot, lol!

  393. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Rockstar seems to think he will win the RT spot

    ***

    find where I have ever said that clown

  394. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Is Bob pleading for company again? At Louie’s, on Mather and 50? Don’t buy it. I was there yesterday…no Bob.

  395. Norco Bob Says:

    I told you bud, I went to the Tumbleweed when none of you offered to meet me at Louie`s.

  396. Norco Bob Says:

    What part of Sac you in bo?

  397. 4evaRaider Says:

    well Bob it has to be something with a lot of Silver&Black….Anyway,anything beats that gorilla costume,imo….Do you know why someone would wear such a thing? We not the Oakland Gorillas

    Bob how about a pirate with a parrot on your shoulder that dispenses joints?

  398. Norco Bob Says:

    I was in Fair Oaks for a long time,..but moved up the hill some…outside Placerville.

  399. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 8:21 am
    Oh screw it,..ok 4eva,..heres the dealio,…for the next few months, we will all exchange opinions, thoughts, ideas,…to compete with Darth Raider and Gorilla Rilla,…now that I am in row 1, finally,..we will all have a hand in deciding just what Norco Bob will be wearing in row 1,…a cool kickaasss costume…something really hip…lets be serious, and creative,..Im thinking something like a cool pirate,..but am open to all your ideas,..even yours old kell!!!…and I am open to treating a few of you this season to sit with me at a few games,..in row 1!!!…ok, lets hear it!!!…the one that helps with the winning idea the most, can choose what game he or she wants to sit in row 1 at!

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Walrus costume, DUH! With a #2 jersey.

    http://www.cosplay.com/i/members/200/75225.jpg

  400. Norco Bob Says:

    Theres a black dude that already does that parrot thing, and he wears goofy eye contact lenses too,..hes cool,..but no, wont copy him.

  401. jhill Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 8:10 am

    …… Barnes starting on the O-Line ???

    ——————————————————-

    There you go.

    Clown? Ignorant?

    What’s next, lol!

    Don’t disagree with Rockstar on anything Jamarcus Russell realted folks, lol!

    Just last week a was respected for marrying a Texas country girl, today? LMFAO!

  402. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    I’m in Cool, Auburn Lake Trails. http://www.auburnlaketrails.org/outside_home.asp

    Just kidding. My father-in-law does live there though, so I visit a few time/year.

  403. 4evaRaider Says:

    lmao Bo!!!!

  404. jhill Says:

    jhill Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 6:36 am
    No thanks on the Ex Jags!

    Henderson, Gallery, Satele, Walker, rookie OT/Barnes

    ——————————————————-

    See, MY original post has a rookie OT 1st on the depth chart with Barnes backing him up!

    YOU are the one who keep annointing Barnes the starter with you will we win 11 games with blah blah blah posts, lol!

    Go get another cup of coffee man, and come back in an hour or so.

  405. Norco Bob Says:

    Unsure whats up, but the Image is selling all Russell gear, 50% off,…Iv heard rumors they do that will players about to be released,..I dont believe that though.

  406. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Bob, like the walrus idea? I think its brilliant.

  407. Norco Bob Says:

    No,…I dont,…we can do better then that.

  408. M Lonetree Says:

    Rockstar,

    I always think that the Raiders will win every single game.

    Then, as the three and outs, penalties fumbles and picks pile up on offense compounded by opposing ballcarriers setting personal bests against the defense…

    Then I always think that the Raiders will win their next game.

  409. 4evaRaider Says:

    408

  410. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Well, there’s no accounting for taste…

  411. 4evaRaider Says:

    Me too M Lonetree…. me to

  412. jhill Says:

    Win every game?

    That’s what I’m talking about M and 4eva!

  413. vegas raider Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 8:37 am
    Unsure whats up, but the Image is selling all Russell gear, 50% off,…Iv heard rumors they do that will players about to be released,..I dont believe that though.

    *******************************

    When I went to buy my #2 jersey last year, I know insert joke here, I was looking at white #20 first.

    The guy at the register told me the same thing, all D-Mac stuff was pulled and they don’t know why. Told me to watch the news for something.

    Was all a bunch of BS. Should have known it was a sign and got a Steph Curry jersey

  414. vegas raider Says:

    Rockstar, need to cool down a little brother.

    IT’s Friday!!!!!

  415. vegas raider Says:

    priesttj Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    Jerry can we get a baseline football knowledge requirement in order to pst in here? Well as I think about it that would wittle it down about 10 posters. Not good for business.

    Seymour Bush, Jhill, Oaklglenn, Hazedaze, Terrapin, Chris in NY, Armond, Priesttj and a few others that don’t immediately come to mind.

    ****************************

    Anyone else see this jewel last night? I agree with his list of others, especially Chris, Terrapin, J, and Hazedaze, but if I ever refer to myself in 3rd person OF MY BLOG MONIKOR, please shoot me.

  416. jhill Says:

    but if I ever refer to myself in 3rd person OF MY BLOG MONIKOR, please shoot me.

    ——————————————————-

    LMFAO!

    I actaully like the “diverse” crowd we have in here.

  417. jhill Says:

    Vegas,

    If Russell is the QB of a Raider team that makes the playoffs next year, will you buy another jersey?

    Will you give it to your friend to give to Russell to autograph?

  418. vegas raider Says:

    If we make the playoffs with Russell as the QB I will perform the biggest bandwagon jump ever and support the holly hell out of him!!!

    I’m not a big autograph guy, I would rather look them in the eye and shake their hand. But best believe I would be working the angle to get my handshake!!

  419. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Bo Schembechler Jackson!

  420. Norco Bob Says:

    Come sit with me in row 1 Vegas,..I will introduce you.

  421. 4evaRaider Says:

    Norco Bob….. you could have like 3 plactic Super Bowl trophys,1 on each shoulder and i as a hat type thingy!

  422. jhill Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 8:58 am

    If we make the playoffs with Russell as the QB I will perform the biggest bandwagon jump ever and support the holly hell out of him!!!

    ——————————————————-

    LOL!

    You and the rest of the “I knew he had the talent, all he had to do was …” crowd.

  423. Norco Bob Says:

    4eva is currently the leader in the club house.

  424. 4evaRaider Says:

    Jhill….when #2 shows the Nation a little respect,maybe he will get some back

  425. 4evaRaider Says:

    haha

  426. jhill Says:

    Don’t do a costume Bob!

    Row 1?

    Just have a sign ready to post by your seat each week. We’ll give you the weekly message!

  427. vegas raider Says:

    I may take you up on that Bob. The wifey has only been to a New Mexico Lobo basketball game.

    We were this close to going to opening night last year. I will get back to you.

    At the very least I will hit up the tailgate. I can tailgate with my uncle, but he is an Alameda county sheriff, so it isn’t as much fun.

  428. jhill Says:

    when #2 shows the Nation a little respect

    ——————————————————-

    Here we go with that again. The “nation” will embrace a QB who produces, plain and simple.

  429. Norco Bob Says:

    Hmmm,…we can do both jhill.

  430. 4evaRaider Says:

    and you could have your beer in those plastic Super Bowl trophys Norco Bob,or any other drink of your choice

  431. vegas raider Says:

    Jhill,

    I’ve always said that I would rather the Raiders be good than me be right. If Jamarcus turns it around, I will take my lumps and cheer him on.

    Doesn’t mean I am going to bite my tongue on my opinions in the meantime.

  432. Norco Bob Says:

    Sucks we didnt go after matt jones,..guess we dont need at receiver help.

  433. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Bob,

    Wear a white tracksuit and this mask:

    http://www.hauntedshop.co.uk/images/scryptkeeper.jpg

  434. 4evaRaider Says:

    Jhill….in order for #2 to produce,he has to want to be at practice workout in summer and do all the things required to produce.He hasnt.Like Vegas said if he was REALLY TRYING to represent the team and the Nation, we would see it and accept him.He dont so we dont ya know?

  435. Norco Bob Says:

    Hmmm,..interesting 4eva,…interesting.

  436. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Or maybe wear an overhead projector.

  437. Norco Bob Says:

    I had a moment of clarity the other day, due to the Norco,..Soma,..and this new pot, Blueberry,..I saw the future,..Russell coming into camp lean and mean,..and winning the afc west,..Im standing by that.

  438. vegas raider Says:

    4eva,

    Haven’t checked the e-mail, did you get the pic I sent you from the SB party?

  439. Norco Bob Says:

    Sorry Bo,..you wont get to row 1 with those poor ideas…I know youre trying ot be funny, but thats not how you get to row 1.

  440. jhill Says:

    Doesn’t mean I am going to bite my tongue on my opinions in the meantime.

    ——————————————————-

    And of course you know I wouldn’t expect you to do that.

    Same with me and my bashing the Oline and play calling.

  441. jhill Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 9:10 am

    Or maybe wear an overhead projector.

    ——————————————————-

    LMFAO!

    Hands down winner!

  442. Norco Bob Says:

    Nope,..since I am deciding who the winner is,..hes not yet close.

  443. Norco Bob Says:

    Try harder Bo,..and trying to be funny doesnt get you in row 1…sorry. :(

  444. jhill Says:

    Yeah …

    Hilarious Bo, but Al’s “folks” wouldn’t appreciate that.

  445. Norco Bob Says:

    Al`s box, # 43, is real close to be,…in full view,..however if I put a sign or banner on little wall in front of me, they cant see it.

  446. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 9:12 am
    Sorry Bo,..you wont get to row 1 with those poor ideas…I know youre trying ot be funny, but thats not how you get to row 1.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    I’m crushed like a Norco in a pestle.

  447. vegas raider Says:

    Same with me and my bashing the Oline and play calling.

    ***************************

    I was right there with you until you know who came in and showed me the light

  448. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I just drank some coffee and I’m feeling much better. thanks for the advice fellas. I had some work to do anyways.

    re-sign Barnes & Walker! draft a RT to compete with Barnes! Satele is the man!

    Russell will start. I’m feelin’ 4000 yards & 30 TD’s

    Hue Jackson is the best OC in pro football.

    11 wins! playoffs! whhhoooooooo doggie

  449. Norco Bob Says:

    Brb,..need to google what a pestle is. :(

  450. jhill Says:

    4eva,

    I respectfully disagree.

    Murphy catches the TD pass at the half in game 1 and we start the season 2-0. DESPITE all the non commitment from Russell.

    DHB catches the TD pass against KC we win that game despite all the Russell BS.

    Russell came off the bench and won the Denver game with a TD pass to a guy who can’t fuggin stand him.

    Players just need to do their jobs man. I just don’t get into the off the field stuff. Run the pattern, block your man, make the throw.

  451. RaiderRockstar Says:

    like the walrus idea? I think its brilliant.

    ***

    FREE WILLY!

  452. Norco Bob Says:

    Oh,..hahaha,..no, I pop em whole.

  453. vegas raider Says:

    Players just need to do their jobs man. I just don’t get into the off the field stuff. Run the pattern, block your man, make the throw.

    ****************************

    The point is, it’s just a helluva of lot easier when there is mutual respect amongst everybody.

  454. 4evaRaider Says:

    Vegas….Yes I did,man that place is awesome by itself,I cant imagine it with all the fine babes walking around!

  455. Norco Bob Says:

    Im considering bringing back Rainbow Head….hes sitting in Folsom prison now,..he might like the idea.

  456. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Mad Stork costume?

    http://www.racheshop.de/product_images/images/big/612-1.jpg

  457. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Don’t disagree with Rockstar on anything Jamarcus Russell realted folks

    ***

    ahem. we were talking about the o-line and zach miller

    wrong again.

    but I forgive you :)

  458. Norco Bob Says:

    Some tool in the black hole brings that stupid John 3:16 sign,…maybe my endzone, I could be the new Rainbow Head…without the Jesus message though.

  459. Norco Bob Says:

    Bo,..I dont click on links here,..so just describe the image.

  460. 4evaRaider Says:

    oh my gawd that mad stork is hella funny

  461. NoMoreFargas Says:

    I hate when people go over the losses if we had just done this or that we win X amount of games, well it works both ways if Eagles PK does his job we lose that one, if Steelers DB holds on to a ball thrown right to him we lose that one, the first game vs KC no 15 late hit we lose that one so please just save it. I just hope Russell is working hard and comes in ready to ball because Grads,Frye come on.
    Murphy,Chaz,Bush!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  462. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Bob – the John 3:16 sign stays as long as Danny Southwick is in Oakland

    sorry bud.

    If Mark Sanchez is called the “Sanchise” I think we should call Southwick the “Danchise”

  463. jhill Says:

    You may have had a little too much coffee!

    Barnes is not the RT I have in mind. Can we be clear on that?

    HOWEVER ….

    I do think your boy Cable will bring him back. Cable’s decision, not mine. IF he is brought back, I think he competes for the LEFT tackle spot. The loser of the LT battle backs up both OT spots. I think the loser will be Barnes.

    Now in the spirit of competition, if Barnes happens to win either of the OT spots over Henderson or a guy drafted #8 overall, I don’t see how that’s a bad thing.

    Satele is another Cable guy, He’s going to start. Again, HIS decision, not mine. I think adding beef next to Satele is a MUST! Gallery is big as fugg. We need another big as fugg guy not Morris or Carlisle. Walker is big as fugg and is on the roster. I prefer him over Morris or Carlisle ONLY. I prefer Iupati over Walker.

    Russell? 4000 yds? 30 TDs? Not going to happen!

  464. Norco Bob Says:

    Who is danny southwick?…a practice squad dude?

  465. Richochet Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 9:17 am

    I just drank some coffee and I’m feeling much better. thanks for the advice fellas. I had some work to do anyways.

    re-sign Barnes & Walker! draft a RT to compete with Barnes! Satele is the man!

    Russell will start. I’m feelin’ 4000 yards & 30 TD’s

    Hue Jackson is the best OC in pro football.

    11 wins! playoffs! whhhoooooooo doggie
    ==============================
    That wasn’t coffee you drank…more like 150 proof Petron, topped by some of Bobbo’s Screamin’ Meanie Ganja

  466. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Bob,

    Wear a #20 jersey, grab 10 toddlers from Br!en’s hood, and go as DMAC.

  467. Norco Bob Says:

    Hmmm,..interesing Bo,..will consider it.

  468. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 9:26 am
    Bob – the John 3:16 sign stays as long as Danny Southwick is in Oakland

    sorry bud.

    If Mark Sanchez is called the “Sanchise” I think we should call Southwick the “Danchise”

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    I prefer…

    the WINTERN.

  469. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Just Wintern Baby!

  470. jhill Says:

    ahem. we were talking about the o-line and zach miller

    wrong again.

    but I forgive you

    ——————————————————

    Nah! It started with the Jamarcus hanging Miller out to dry comments. LOL, you even left for “coffee” on the same point talking about Russell causing him 2 concussions.

    But thanks for forgiving me!

  471. Norco Bob Says:

    Richard, I have had a couple tokes of Blueberry this morning,..and a Norco, and a Soma.

  472. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Wear a #20 jersey, grab 10 toddlers from Br!en’s hood, and go as DMAC.

    ***

    LOL!!!

    …or Travis Henry

  473. Richochet Says:

    NoMoreFargas Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 9:25 am

    I hate when people go over the losses if we had just done this or that we win X amount of games
    =========================
    If people decided to go over the wins, the conversation is over is 4 minutes.
    Negatives trump the positives.
    Reduced negatives directly affects negative amount of positives.
    Negative discussion it is.

  474. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Cable is my boy!

    Russell is accurate!

    Al Davis rocks!

  475. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Danny Southwick = the WINTERN.

    Very Nice :)

  476. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Ricky,

    please forgive me. I’m just trying to make peace on this blog and the only way to do it is by pouring Kool-Aid on everything …

    realists aren’t very popular in here

  477. 4evaRaider Says:

    wintern????

  478. RaiderRockstar Says:

    4eva:

    win + intern

  479. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    4eva,

    Per Jerry last July in camp: “Recently-waived quarterback Danny Southwick is still around, but not in uniform. He holds a clipboard much of the time, but for a short period of time he was throwing passes to Chaz Schilens and Heyward-Bey. He classified himself as an “intern.’’

  480. RaiderRockstar Says:

    go get Peppers Al!

    arguably the best DE in the game!

    Seymour, Ellis, Shaughnessy & Richardson = not good enough at DE.

    Peppers + Oakland = 11 wins. booyah!!!!

  481. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Just got this e-mail:

    I usually don’t pass along these “add your name” lists that appear in my email, but this one is too important.
    This one has been circulating for months. Please, keep it going!

    To show your SUPPORT for Obama’s health care reform, please go the end of the list and add your name to the rapidly growing list below and send it on to your entire e-mail list.

    1. Nancy Pelosi
    2.

  482. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Langston Walker @ RG = Steve Hutchinson/Alan Faneca!

    do it Al. pay the man!

  483. RaiderRockstar Says:

    come on BSJ. you know that was funny #481

  484. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    RRS, kiss my Gingrich.

  485. jhill Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 9:44 am

    go get Peppers Al!

    arguably the best DE in the game!

    Seymour, Ellis, Shaughnessy & Richardson = not good enough at DE.

    ——————————————————-

    Yeah, your right. What was I thinking. Much rather have Jay Richards and Ellis on one knee than Peppers.

  486. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I just agreed with you Jhill. why are you changing your mind now?

  487. vegas raider Says:

    Peppers is an enigma.

    Some games he is utterly unblockable and the best player on the field.

    Than the next week he will have one assisted tackle.

  488. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Lets not forget: Danny Southwick ran a 4.26, and can throw 70+ yards while on his knees in prayer.

  489. jhill Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 9:53 am

    I just agreed with you Jhill. why are you changing your mind now?

    ——————————————————-

    Because you agreed with me.

  490. bcz24 Says:

    I wouldnt mind having Peppers, but not for 21-22 million a year like he is looking for. We better get Seymour locked up before someone DOES give Peppers that kind of contract though. His contract is definitely going to influence what we pay Seymour

  491. 4evaRaider Says:

    Peppers is an enima WHAT?

  492. jhill Says:

    So Vegas,

    Who do you think Al will spend $ on this offseason? You know some big name/former big name guy is going to cash in, lol.

  493. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Vegas: Peppers only wants a long-term deal to pay out roughly 5 years 75 million

    thats nothing for a 30 year old DE

    enigma or not he’s still arguably the best DE in the game!

    right Jhill?

  494. jhill Says:

    Peppers is not getting 20 million. No one is going to pay him that which is why Carolina is just letting him walk. He’ll get something like Suggs got.

  495. vegas raider Says:

    J,

    I hope it is Demeco Ryans. Loved him coming out of college.

    We need a MLB and a really good one. Not a Ricky Brown type.

    Other than that, I honestly hope he just gets the Gregg Ellis type of signings. Low risk, low profile, very solid.

    One can only hope.

  496. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I wouldnt mind having Peppers, but not for 21-22 million a year like he is looking for.

    ***

    BCZ: whoa! my numbers were way off …

    make that a 5 year 105 million deal from big Al!

  497. vegas raider Says:

    jhill Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 9:55 am
    So Vegas,

    Who do you think Al will spend $ on this offseason? You know some big name/former big name guy is going to cash in, lol.

    ****************************

    How mad would I make you if I said Bruce might be our biggest FA signing?

  498. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Lets not forget: Danny Southwick ran a 4.26, and can throw 70+ yards while on his knees in prayer.

    ***

    how much did Russell get?

    add 500k and get Danny boy in here pronto!

  499. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jhill: i’m sorry for calling you an ignorant clown earlier

    you are clearly a bigger Raider fan than me. more informed and more intelligent

    I’ll know next time not to even try and debate things with you because you are never wrong. ok?

    11-5 next year. all aboard the Kool-Aid train!

  500. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Bruce might be our biggest FA signing

    ***

    correct me if I’m wrong Vegas, but Al Davis didn’t exactly go hog wild in free agency last year, did he?

    I think some of the more “high profile” guys we brought in besides Ellis & Barnes were Garcia & Neal and they didn’t even make the final 53

    Boschetti & Pears didn’t pan out. Neither did Satele & Russell IMO.

    Richard Seymour didn’t get a fat contract, but getting him in exchange for a 1st rounder was considered big news. a few days before Week 1. does that count as “offseason” ?

    Last offseason was spent mainly on retaining our own guys. Nnamdi, Shane & Isaiah broke the bank I know.

  501. jhill Says:

    How mad would I make you if I said Bruce might be our biggest FA signing?

    ——————————————————-

    Well, that would be sad.

    Unless of course we nailed the draft with a got 2 OL, a MLB, a DT, and a corner.

  502. bcz24 Says:

    Peppers or any other DE will NEVER make enough impact to be worth even the 15 million you think he is going to get, nor is Seymour worth 13.68 million which is his franchise figure. I dont think Nnamdi was worth the contract he got either, but I am glad he stayed. Great leader on the defense.

  503. Dakota Says:

    zzzzzzzzzzzz

  504. jhill Says:

    No RRS,

    I was wrong. No need for apologies.

    I should have just accepted Danny Southwick as our saviour long ago, and I sure we would be on one accord. Forgive me for being stubborn.

  505. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I should have just accepted Danny Southwick as our saviour long ago

    ***

    on that topic, have you ever seen the Danchise play?

    I think BSJ has some sweet clips for you to check out …

  506. Dakota Says:

    Well guys, some of you will be happy to hear this, but my BP was 154 over 106 this morning and I have been instructed to rid myself of stress for a while until my meds kick in.

    Al Davis and the Raiders cause me stress, therefore I am out of here for a while.

    If I am not back in a month or so I am probably dead.

    It has been fun.

    Dakota

    PS: I knew Al would kill me…

  507. jhill Says:

    I don’t know how in the world I thought for a second that adding an OC to a team that should have made the playoffs last year would help.

    Yeah, Hue Jackson is a bad hire. Complete waste to time.

  508. RaiderDebo Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 9:20 am
    Players just need to do their jobs man. I just don’t get into the off the field stuff. Run the pattern, block your man, make the throw.

    ****************************

    The point is, it’s just a helluva of lot easier when there is mutual respect amongst everybody.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Whatever man. How the hell do you prove that statement? And even if it’s true, who says that Schilens and JR don’t respect each other? It’s obvious that JR respects his ability to catch the football because he always goes to him. And Chazz almost always delivers. Why make comments about mutual respect on this team when you have no way to back it up?

  509. RaiderRockstar Says:

    what up Debo?

  510. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LOL Dakota. Less salt on your DMAC and cheese…

  511. jhill Says:

    on that topic, have you ever seen the Danchise play?

    ——————————————————-

    Nah …

    Don’t need to actually see the guy on the field.

    If u tell me he’s the man, that’s good enough for me.

  512. 4evaRaider Says:

    Dakota GET BETTER BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  513. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dakota,

    have you been watching CNN or MSNBC?

  514. DMAC Says:

    Wassup Bo,
    Did I get traded for Marshawn Lynch yet?

  515. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Nah …

    Don’t need to actually see the guy on the field.

    ***

    come on Jhill. please?

    “the wintern” is really going to impress you

  516. vegas raider Says:

    Debo,

    Did you see Chaz’s response to a question about JR after the season finale?

    Let’s just say they aren’t peas in a pod.

    Football is a business and a job. Some guys get more out of their employees/colleagues than others. I want a guy who gets 110% from his co-workers.

    When Bruce plays 3.5 games and gets sacked 5 times in those games, and JR comes in for a half and gets sacked 6 times there is a problem. More sacks in 2 hours than another guy in a whole month?? Unheard of!!

  517. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota

    Geez man. You think it’s the buffalo meat? ;-)

    Take care,

  518. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    DMAC Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 10:33 am
    Wassup Bo,
    Did I get traded for Marshawn Lynch yet?

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Waiting for Lynch’s physical. If he is alive or even comatose, you’re gone.

  519. DMAC Says:

    lmao

  520. DMAC Says:

    Vegas wassup!
    I love J Kidd, but com’on no Ellis on the squad.
    He deserves a spot. I guess they just don’t want him at the all-star game.

  521. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Top Free Agent LB’s :

    * Kirk Morrison, Oakland Raiders (28) – Restricted FA (UFA-CBA)
    Morrison has been a fixture for in the Raiders starting lineup for his entire five year career now. Morrison is as sure a tackler as any in the league, amassing 100 for his 5th straight year. He doesn’t make many big plays from MIKE linebacker, but is the most consistent down-to-down player the Raiders have. Of all their priorities this season, Seymour and Morrison should be 1-2 on the list, respectively. If they lose Morrison, the porous run defense will become that much worse.

    * Thomas Howard, Oakland Raiders (27) – Restricted FA (UFA-CBA)
    Howard’s sideline-to-sideline range has helped him become the coverage backer he is today. Yet year after year, the Raiders finish near the bottom of the pack in run defense. Not to put the blame solely on Howard, but his play definitely reflects his inadequacies in playing through blockers. Howard is a nice blitzer and does a nice job of knifing through blocks to make plays in the backfield, but when he misses, he leaves a big void wide open behind him. Howard doesn’t have the bulk to go head on and stand up guards and that could be a big reason why Oakland pushes him down on their list of priorities.

    http://www.footballsfuture.com/2010/fa/lb.html

  522. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Good morning Nation. How about Antonio Pearce from the NY Giants. He was just released he is coming off an injury and he is the same age as Seymour. I’m not saying sign him to a huge contract. But, bring him in for a look.

  523. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Free Agent Kickers (besides Seabass) —

    Neil Rackers, Arizona Cardinals (34)
    Stephen Gostkowski, New England Patriots (26)
    Shayne Graham, Cincinnati Bengals (32)
    Dan Carpenter, Miami Dolphins (24) – Exclusive Rights FA
    Jay Feely, New York Jets (34)
    Garrett Hartley, New Orleans Saints (24)
    Olindo Mare, Seattle Seahawks (37)
    Matt Prater, Denver Broncos (26) – Restricted FA
    Jeff Reed, Pittsburgh Steelers (31)
    Shaun Suisham, Washington Redskins (28)

  524. vegas raider Says:

    DMAC,

    Curry going to win the 3 point contest??

    All-star game is joke anyways, Ellis is hurt so he couldn’t play anyways right?

  525. RaiderRockstar Says:

    not under contract in Oakland -

    Unrestricted FAs:

    74 Cornell Green OT
    11 Sebastian Janikowski K
    94 William Joseph DT
    92 Richard Seymour DE/DT
    71 John Wade C
    70 Langston Walker OT
    54 Sam Williams OLB

    Restricted FAs:

    55 Jon Alston OLB
    69 Khalif Barnes OT
    57 Ricky Brown OLB
    59 Jon Condo LS
    31 Hiram Eugene FS
    3 Charlie Frye QB
    5 Bruce Gradkowski QB
    53 Thomas Howard OLB
    44 Luke Lawton FB
    7 J. P. Losman QB
    51 Chris Morris G/C
    52 Kirk Morrison ILB
    26 Stanford Routt CB
    22 Gary Russell FB

    Exclusive-Rights FAs:

    23 Jonathan Holland CB
    56 David Nixon OLB
    19 Todd Watkins WR

    ***

    who is back and who isn’t ???

  526. RaiderRockstar Says:

    under contract in Oakland that shouldn’t be -

    Marcel Reece, Cooper Carlisle, Erik Pears, Gerard Warren, Javon Walker, Slade Norris, Jerome Boyd

    Tony Stewart is dirt cheap and contributes on ST. plus he’s our NFLPA rep

    WR’s Miller, Figurs, Bodiford & Hubbard are just camp competition imo. hopefully we’ll find a KR/PR out of the bunch

    OL Rodd and DL Gunheim probably won’t make the final 53 either …

  527. DMAC Says:

    I’m sure he would toughen up and played if invited.
    Curry has a good chance of winning it. Would have liked to see Morrow instead though.

  528. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Dakota, you only have 5 months to heal up for Baja.

    If we don’t have your burrito making expertise, half these blog dweebs are going to starve to death. Most have never had a meal NOT prepared for them by their mothers.

    And I’m sure you don’t want to miss KrappyKell’s wackiness on full display.

    That old bag of bolts is scheduled to be leading senior yoga classed in the AM, running around town in only a sombrero around noon, and giving a new global meaning to the term Montezuma’s Revenge.

    Let’s Rock!

  529. Midwest Fan Says:

    I kinda like Norris. He’s flashed and was a project anyway. Practice squad material. I also do like Nixon as a developing player as well. In preseason he seemed like he was always around the ball.

  530. RaiderRockstar Says:

    UFA’s to sign: Seymour & Janikowski

    RFA’s to make tender offers to: Gradkowski, Condo, Howard, Morrison & Routt

    RFA’s to make long term deals with: none

    I would let guys like Frye, Losman and the ST studs (Alston, Brown, Williams) hit free agency and test the waters. Let them know they can come back at the vet minimum to COMPETE for a roster spot. I’m pretty sure nobody is gonna be banging down the door for their services

  531. vegas raider Says:

    DMAC,

    I’m sure the NBA is going to prop up Curry as much as possible. He’s got the boyish looks, the fundamental based game, the pedigree, attitude and intellect that STern loves to show off.

    In light of the Arenas situation, and the fact we may have Artest and Rasheed berating officials in the finals, Stern is going to give guys like Curry a lot of press.

  532. jhill Says:

    Marcel Reece and Slade Norris shouldn’t even be under contract? Why do you say that?

    Gerrard Warren should back up Kelly.

    Miller is more than camp competition. He held a roster spot for 15 weeks in case you forgot.

  533. DMAC Says:

    Very true.

  534. jhill Says:

    Artest berating officials????

    Artest is the calmest guy on the court. More like Kobe berating the officials. Or Odom crying to the refs.

  535. jhill Says:

    Why tender Grads? Give him a non guaranteed invite to camp along with Losman, and let the winner get the contract.

  536. vegas raider Says:

    Just give Artest time, he blows up when it is the worst time possible.

    Didn’t he get tossed out of game last year in the playoffs?

  537. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Marcel Reece and Slade Norris shouldn’t even be under contract? Why do you say that?

    Gerrard Warren should back up Kelly.

    Miller is more than camp competition. He held a roster spot for 15 weeks in case you forgot.

    ***

    not sure why I said that. probably the caffeine from drinking too much coffee this morning

    and yes. you’re right

    and yes. I must have forgot

  538. jhill Says:

    Slade Norris is 6′3, 245, and I agree with Midwest that he flashed early in the preseason. Was surprised that he didn’t make the roster intially but he did get overwhelmed the last preseason game.

    Sound like our next MLB, lol! Well at least he’s bigger and stronger than Kirk.

  539. jhill Says:

    Vegas,

    That was him trying to make nice with Kupchak ang get on the best brand out there for basketball, lol. That “incident” wiht Kobe was laughable.

  540. jhill Says:

    Ricky Brown is too light in the ass at 235 to play LB for us.

    Scott is penciled in at SLB, and Howard should be back at WLB. Moving Howard away from the TE and just letting him attack the LOS was the way to go. Now if we can just get a bigger, or shall I say a more physical player at MLB, then we will be headed in the right direction!

  541. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Give him a non guaranteed invite to camp along with Losman, and let the winner get the contract.

    ***

    please give a further/deeper explanation of this process.

    the Raiders already know what they have in these guys. It’s not the same as a work out or try out, is it?

    If guys like Erik Meyer, Jeff Otis & Josh Booty signed contracts before I think it’s ok for Bruce Gradkowski & JP Losman to do the same …

  542. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Just a quick in and out (that’s what she said.)

    From Florio’s PFT chat:
    1:54 [Comment From Raiders177 Raiders177: ]
    Take an educated guess at what JaMarcus Russell is doing right now. Friday February 12, 2010 1:54

    Florio:
    Eating or sleeping is the safest bet. Maybe he has found a way to do both simultaneously. Friday February 12, 2010 1:54

  543. jhill Says:

    Any of you pay the 4 bucks a month to be a BSPN insider?

    How about posting McShay’s mcok draft for us?

  544. Seymour Bush Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 11:03 am

    not under contract in Oakland -

    Unrestricted FAs:

    74 Cornell Green OT
    11 Sebastian Janikowski K
    94 William Joseph DT
    92 Richard Seymour DE/DT
    71 John Wade C
    70 Langston Walker OT
    54 Sam Williams OLB

    Restricted FAs:

    55 Jon Alston OLB
    69 Khalif Barnes OT
    57 Ricky Brown OLB
    59 Jon Condo LS
    31 Hiram Eugene FS
    3 Charlie Frye QB
    5 Bruce Gradkowski QB
    53 Thomas Howard OLB
    44 Luke Lawton FB
    7 J. P. Losman QB
    51 Chris Morris G/C
    52 Kirk Morrison ILB
    26 Stanford Routt CB
    22 Gary Russell FB

    Exclusive-Rights FAs:

    23 Jonathan Holland CB
    56 David Nixon OLB
    19 Todd Watkins WR

    ***

    who is back and who isn’t ???
    ===========================================

    Richard Seymour, Janikowski, Sam Williams for Special Teams, Bruce, Gary Russell, Todd Watkins. Scrap the rest.

  545. vegas raider Says:

    JHill,

    Someone I think posted that he has us taking Anthony DAvis #8.

  546. r8eray Says:

    The 2010 Scouting Combine, which will be held from Feb. 24 to March 2, is the annual job fair for prospective new NFL players. For six days at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis, players are put through a series of drills, tests and interviews with more than 600 NFL personnel including head coaches, general managers and scouts.

  547. RaiderRockstar Says:

    NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has been given a new five-year contract running until March 2015

  548. jhill Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 11:30 am
    Give him a non guaranteed invite to camp along with Losman, and let the winner get the contract.

    ***

    please give a further/deeper explanation of this process.

    the Raiders already know what they have in these guys. It’s not the same as a work out or try out, is it?

    If guys like Erik Meyer, Jeff Otis & Josh Booty signed contracts before I think it’s ok for Bruce Gradkowski & JP Losman to do the same …

    ——————————————————

    When you say tender a contract to Grads, I think that locks us in if he signs. I don’t think that’s the same thing as offering a FA contract to guys like Otis and Booty.

    Quite simply, I’m saying why not let the better player between Losman and Gradkowski get a contract for the season. Let there be a competition for the spot instead of just giving it to Grads.

    You like Grads and want to just give it to him, fine with me by the way. Entitled to your opinion.

  549. Richochet Says:

    # jhill Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 9:54 am

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 9:53 am

    I just agreed with you Jhill. why are you changing your mind now?

    ——————————————————-

    Because you agreed with me.
    =============
    Is that kind of like “I would never want to be a member of a club that would have me as a member”?

  550. vegas raider Says:

    It’s simple, it should be Bruce and Jamarcus in camp competing for the starting gig. Let the best man win.

    Anything other than that is plain stupid.

  551. vegas raider Says:

    Including just handing the job to either Bruce or Jamarcus. As well as bringing in some outsider as well to compete and/or letting Bruce walk.

    Not rocket science here folks.

  552. jhill Says:

    Ok, I think you guys confused the question. It wasn’t who SHOULDN’T be back, lol.

    We all know the following players will be back

    Hiram Eugene
    Jano
    Seymour
    Sam Williams
    Langston Walker
    Ricky Brown
    Condo
    Howard
    Morris
    Routt
    Russell
    Holland
    Nixon
    Watkins

  553. Seymour Bush Says:

    # vegas raider Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 11:35 am

    JHill,

    Someone I think posted that he has us taking Anthony DAvis #8.
    ===================================================

    Anthony Davis is primarily a run blocking OT. We already have two of those. We need pass blocking OT’s. Especially if we are running a deep passing offense.

  554. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jhill: I don’t know that Bruce is a better player than JP. JP signed late and only had 1 pass attempt on the season. Bruce has a chance to latch on with another team and has already proved to coaches & teammates that he belongs here. JP certainly COULD do that, but hasn’t yet.

    You don’t break the bank slapping a tender offer on a restricted free agent, especially somebody like Bruce who was a nobody before he came here and signed for peanuts. I think Losman should get a shot in Oakland, but nobody wanted him before he went to the UFL so I don’t imagine much has changed since then. Let him test the waters in FA and maybe he & Frye can battle for the 3rd QB spot.

  555. Nnamdi21 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 11:08 am
    under contract in Oakland that shouldn’t be -

    Marcel Reece, Cooper Carlisle, Erik Pears, Gerard Warren, Javon Walker, Slade Norris, Jerome Boyd

    Tony Stewart is dirt cheap and contributes on ST. plus he’s our NFLPA rep

    WR’s Miller, Figurs, Bodiford & Hubbard are just camp competition imo. hopefully we’ll find a KR/PR out of the bunch

    OL Rodd and DL Gunheim probably won’t make the final 53 either …

    ==============================

    Reece may end up surprising. Good speed agility for his size. Great hands and could step in as an H back of maybe enven fullback I hope. We need a solid one Gunhiem will stay, maybe not on the 53, but as a reserve.

    Agree about the rest. Warren is dominant once or twice a game then disapears for the length of a bible. Definitely NOT worth the big bucks.
    Kelly hasn’t panned either.
    Would like to see some new GOOD linemen on the O and the majority of picks on D this year.
    I think Al doesn’t think the D is broken despite the numbers.
    With his system if the O can put points on the board, his D has a better chance and that just hasn’t happened the last few years…

  556. jhill Says:

    Is that kind of like “I would never want to be a member of a club that would have me as a member”?

    ——————————————————-

    Depends on the club.

    I’m sure if Priest started to agree with you then you would have to take pause and maybe rethink your position on GP alone, right?

  557. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Jhill: I really think routt and maybe even Morrison might go. They f’in should.

  558. jhill Says:

    I thought Losman chose to go to the UFL for playing time instead of sitting the bench for a year?

    IMO, Gradkowski is not the answer. I could be wrong, won’t be the first time.

    Losman played better in Buffalo to me than Grads did here. I just don’t want to commit to Grads based on bad play by Russell. Grads wasn’t that good, Russell was just that bad.

  559. DKnight007 Says:

    jhill Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 7:19 am
    so you’re excited about Hue Jackson calling plays, but still expect Russell to remain 3rd string when the sole purpose for his arrival in Oakland was to save Russell? LOL.

    ——————————————————-

    Russell is not the only guy Al drafted. DMAC, Bush, DHB, Miller, Henderson … The all need to get on track.

    Hue was brought in an interviewed with AL for 4 days because we needed a new plan of attack. I think you will see our players used differently. I think we are going to see 2 new offensive linemen, MLB, and DT. I think we will see a big improvement in the big plays we gave up on D. Year 2 in Marshall’s defense will be even better.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Like your optimism JHILL, but I’m not going to be blindly optimistic since I know how that has turned out the last 7 years.

    It needs to PROVEN to me and I need see it to believe it!

  560. DKnight007 Says:

    jhill Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 11:32 am
    Any of you pay the 4 bucks a month to be a BSPN insider?

    How about posting McShay’s mcok draft for us?

    ^^^^^^^^^
    I sure as hell don’t pay one dime for that BSPN bull crap!

  561. DKnight007 Says:

    jhill Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 11:30 am
    Ricky Brown is too light in the ass at 235 to play LB for us.

    Scott is penciled in at SLB, and Howard should be back at WLB. Moving Howard away from the TE and just letting him attack the LOS was the way to go. Now if we can just get a bigger, or shall I say a more physical player at MLB, then we will be headed in the right direction!

    ^^^^^^^^
    Hmm…what about T Scott?

    He needs to be more the WLB/elephant hybrid stand up type.

    He was great in that role last year when he was finally moved there when he should have been from the start of the year!

  562. DMAC Says:

    IMO, Walker played some good football at the LG position when Gallery was hurt. You guys think he could ajust to RG?

  563. DMAC Says:

    adjust

  564. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I thought Losman chose to go to the UFL for playing time instead of sitting the bench for a year?

    ***

    thats what JP said after we signed him, right?

    nobody knows what offers were on the table and I’m sure if he was that great there would have been other teams looking to secure his services after the UFL season ended. Why settle for a backup job in Oakland of all places? Lots of teams need depth at the QB position.

  565. 4evaRaider Says:

    Marcel Reese was a WR in high-school and college.so hes got real good hands and at 6-3 240 he’s a big fast dude.Only 24 I hope we can do something with him

  566. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    DMAC Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 11:56 am
    IMO, Walker played some good football at the LG position when Gallery was hurt. You guys think he could ajust to RG?

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    No. We can do a lot better.

  567. jhill Says:

    Scott was moved to the SLB, DKnight. Howard was not getting it done playing on the TE side. Good in coverage but swallowed up too many times vs the run.

    Scott as 6-5 255 was much more stout.

    Whatever Scott was doing at once he moved to LB needs to be continued next year.

  568. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Reece is a utility player.

    RB, FB, WR, TE, KR. anything you ask him to do

    can play multiple positions, but he’s just another Fred Wakefield. he’s not good at any of them

    I want a BLOCKING fullback! catching passes out of the backfield is a bonus for a FB, but dropping your shoulder and popping defenders is a priority. a MUST.

  569. DKnight007 Says:

    DMAC Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 11:56 am
    IMO, Walker played some good football at the LG position when Gallery was hurt. You guys think he could ajust to RG?

    ^^^^^^^^
    Yes…without a doubt.

  570. DMAC Says:

    Yaeh we can do better, but he’s an upgrade over Coop.

  571. jhill Says:

    Losman is not “that great” .. Geeze. Neither is Grads. That’s the point. But I’d prefer the bigger guy who might stand up to some pounding and can actually see over the LOS. And he was a former first round pick who can move and throw the ball deep. His best season in the NFL was MUCH better than anything Grads ever did.

    Would like for him to get as much of an opportunity as Grads is all I’m saying. If Grads is the better guy, so be it.

  572. jhill Says:

    IMO, Walker played some good football at the LG position when Gallery was hurt. You guys think he could ajust to RG?

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    No. We can do a lot better.

    ——————————————————-

    Like who?

  573. DKnight007 Says:

    jhill Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
    Scott was moved to the SLB, DKnight. Howard was not getting it done playing on the TE side. Good in coverage but swallowed up too many times vs the run.

    Scott as 6-5 255 was much more stout.

    Whatever Scott was doing at once he moved to LB needs to be continued next year.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Sorry about that a typo….I meant SLB/elephant hybrid position.

  574. RaiderRockstar Says:

    UFA OL —

    Bobbie Williams
    Kevin Mawae
    Chad Clifton
    Eugene Amano, Tennessee Titans (28)
    Mike Gandy, Arizona Cardinals (31)
    Rex Hadnot, Cleveland Browns (28)
    Ben Hamilton, Denver Broncos (33)
    Justin Hartwig, Pittsburgh Steelers (31)
    Mike Brisiel, Houston Texans (27)
    Jon Jansen, Washington Redskins (34)
    Nick Kaczur, New England Patriots (31)
    Stephen Neal, New England Patriots (33)
    Chester Pitts, Houston Texans (31)
    Marshal Yanda, Baltimore Ravens (25)

  575. jhill Says:

    Marcel Reese would be a good guy to have in certain packages. Starting FB? Well let’s see if his time with the strength coach has paid any dividends. . You would think a guy who is 6′3 240 would be able to block someone.

    I don’t think anyone would argue that he wouldn’t be a mismatch in the passing game against a S or LB. I think we should be able to find a way to use a guy like that. Again, in certain packages.

  576. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Mo Collins.

  577. jhill Says:

    Bobbie Williams
    Kevin Mawae
    Chad Clifton
    Eugene Amano, Tennessee Titans (28)
    Mike Gandy, Arizona Cardinals (31)
    Rex Hadnot, Cleveland Browns (28)
    Ben Hamilton, Denver Broncos (33)
    Justin Hartwig, Pittsburgh Steelers (31)
    Mike Brisiel, Houston Texans (27)
    Jon Jansen, Washington Redskins (34)
    Nick Kaczur, New England Patriots (31)
    Stephen Neal, New England Patriots (33)
    Chester Pitts, Houston Texans (31)
    Marshal Yanda, Baltimore Ravens (25)

    ——————————————————

    Which one of these guys is really an upgrade over Walker? I don’t know anything about these guys except their former team no longer requires there services. Sounds like Khalif Barnes all over again. Why not just keep Barnes and Walker? Seriously!?!?!

    Now if we can pull another Seymour and trade for someone like the RFA Logan from the Pats I believe it is, then that would be something.

  578. jhill Says:

    I really think we are going to make a trade and/or sign away a high profile RFA. Al is going to be one of the only GMs willing to spend $. There will be at least one significant addition to this team outside of the draft and resigning our own FAs.

  579. Seymour Bush Says:

    # DKnight007 Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 11:56 am

    He was great in that role last year when he was finally moved there when he should have been from the start of the year!
    ========================================

    I don’t know if I would call Trevor Scott “great” in the Sam last year. It is REALLY hard to learn a new position at the NFL level, but he certainly was a pleasant surprise and seemed to take the position to heart. It also gives the DC a lot of different options with him in there. As far as free agents go, I think Al is going to try to build this team thru the draft. An offensive lineman in Round 1, Defense in 2, and then fill more holes in 3-4 might just be enough to get us somewhat competitive.

  580. Richochet Says:

    # jhill Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 11:45 am

    Is that kind of like “I would never want to be a member of a club that would have me as a member”?

    ——————————————————-

    Depends on the club.

    I’m sure if Priest started to agree with you then you would have to take pause and maybe rethink your position on GP alone, right?
    =================================
    Rethink med dosage, lol.

  581. RaiderDebo Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 10:35 am
    Debo,

    Did you see Chaz’s response to a question about JR after the season finale?

    Let’s just say they aren’t peas in a pod.

    Football is a business and a job. Some guys get more out of their employees/colleagues than others. I want a guy who gets 110% from his co-workers.

    When Bruce plays 3.5 games and gets sacked 5 times in those games, and JR comes in for a half and gets sacked 6 times there is a problem. More sacks in 2 hours than another guy in a whole month?? Unheard of!!
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Hey Rockstar. Long time.

    Vegas,

    One thing we can agree on. There IS a problem. The OL can’t protect our QBs. To assume that the linemen allow JaMarcus to be sacked at a higher rate than Grads because they have more respect for him is a great theory. But tell me: In a court of law, how would you go about proving that? Have you ever talked to any of those guys? Better to give Grads credit for having more mobility than JR which can make him look good in the short term. Eventually though if the problem persists, and it did, someone is gonna get hurt, and Grads did. My point is that there’s no proof that the OL dogs it just because JaMarcus is playing. Did you see Mario Henderson and Cornell Green congratulating him after the Denver win? Our OL can’t protect our QBs period.

    As far as Chazz is concerned, you’re proving my point for me. Yeah, I saw Chazz interviewed after the Raven game and it seems to me that he has a beef with Jamarcus, but so what?? JR continues to go to him and Chazz keeps running good routes and catching the ball. If he hadn’t gotten hurt, JR never would have gotten benched. Why bother with all this stuff about how much each QB can get out of the other players? Everyone has enough incentive to play well regardless of who plays at any position. All the other stuff is great for talking heads and writers, but it means nothing.

  582. jhill Says:

    Yeah, I saw Chazz interviewed after the Raven game and it seems to me that he has a beef with Jamarcus, but so what?? JR continues to go to him and Chazz keeps running good routes and catching the ball. If he hadn’t gotten hurt, JR never would have gotten benched.

    ——————————————————-

    Exactly!

  583. jhill Says:

    Cleveland hired Tom Headlee as a pro scout and signed free agent defensive back John Bowie.

    ——————————————————-

    Damn It!

    Ryan stole Bowie from us.

  584. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Which one of these guys is really an upgrade over Walker?

    ***

    Jhill: I just posted the list of UFA OL. I didn’t make an argument for any of them. All i’m saying is “we have options”.

    Riddle me this: why is it ok to re-sign Walker based on 3 or 4 games, but not Gradkowski? Isn’t it fair to either give both guys a shot or neither?

  585. Seymour Bush Says:

    Vegas,

    One thing we can agree on. There IS a problem. The OL can’t protect our QBs. To assume that the linemen allow JaMarcus to be sacked at a higher rate than Grads because they have more respect for him is a great theory. But tell me: In a court of law, how would you go about proving that? Have you ever talked to any of those guys? Better to give Grads credit for having more mobility than JR which can make him look good in the short term. Eventually though if the problem persists, and it did, someone is gonna get hurt, and Grads did. My point is that there’s no proof that the OL dogs it just because JaMarcus is playing. Did you see Mario Henderson and Cornell Green congratulating him after the Denver win? Our OL can’t protect our QBs period.
    ============================================

    Gradkowski’s mobility certainly helped him because at times Grads was running for his life back there. Which is really a shame, because the lst week of the season against SD, the offensive line played VERY well. You can see how good Rob Gallery is, because as soon as he goes down, the entire offense goes down.

    All that being said, a major difference between Russell and Grads is Grads plays MUCH FASTER. He has his team in and out of the huddle faster, he gets back faster, the gets the ball out faster. Just by doing that, the offensive line doesn’t have to hold their blocks as long and they look much better. And BTW, that was the very first thing Gruden worked on when he got here: playing much more uptempo.

  586. RaiderRockstar Says:

    1. To assume that the linemen allow JaMarcus to be sacked at a higher rate than Grads because they have more respect for him is a great theory. But tell me: In a court of law, how would you go about proving that?

    2. JR continues to go to him and Chazz keeps running good routes and catching the ball. If he hadn’t gotten hurt, JR never would have gotten benched.

    ***

    Debo: you asked Vegas to prove it. How can you prove your 2nd statement here?

  587. jhill Says:

    I said I don’t mind giving Grads a shot, but I just want Losman to get an equal shot. May the best man win.

    And I also said I’d rather have Iupati or Logan than Walker. I know we have options.

    Walker is an option too. What do you have against him? He was without question better than Morris at OG. He opened up holes and kept the pocket in tact. Now he was a fat arss who was out of shape and couldn’t last, but he was an effective fat arss when he was in the game. If we can’t get anyone else, I’d prefer him over Carlisle. Why is that so hard to understand. Walker over Carlisle, not Walker and stop looking for someone better.

  588. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Carlisle = scrub. Walker = scrub.

  589. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The Bengals and receiver Matt Jones have agreed on a one-year deal, said a source familiar with the discussions who spoke on condition of anonymity because no contract has been signed.

    Jones would be the latest player trying to revive his career in Cincinnati after legal problems. The Cincinnati Enquirer reported the deal would pay him approximately $700,000.

    Jones was released by Jacksonville last March after an arrest for violating a plea agreement. He also was charged with cocaine possession in 2008. He didn’t play in the NFL last year.

    The Bengals are also considering signing often-suspended cornerback Adam “Pacman” Jones after his tryout.

  590. 4evaRaider Says:

    I always wondered about those “stripes” on the Bengals helmets lol

  591. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jhill: you saying that Walker is better than Carlisle & Morris at guard is the same as Vegas and I saying that Gradkowski is better than Russell & Frye …

    weren’t you basically saying earlier that signing Bruce might be a mistake because outplaying Russell isn’t exactly a huge accomplishment?

    sorry if that wasn’t you. somebody said it and I agree. too lazy to scroll through all the above comments

    and the same rule applies to Langston Walker IMO.

    if Bruce doesn’t deserve a contract, Walker doesn’t either. I’m not talking about tryouts here. I’m talking about contracts.

    btw, I UNDERSTAND all of your comments above. just don’t AGREE on most of them. It’s not hard to understand where your coming from, but it is sometimes difficult to understand where you have the priorities of need on this football team.

  592. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Chris Henry (RIP) and Tank Johnson were decent role players for the Bungles last year …

    why not give Adam & Matt Jones a shot? they are dirt cheap and hungry like the wolf

  593. jhill Says:

    And like you are saying that Grads and Frye should play in front of Russell, I think Walker should play in front of Carlisle.

    I didn’t say Walker deserved a contract. I said I thought he would be back on the roster because someone more important than two bloggers thinks so. And if it is down to him and Carlisle for RG, then I’ll take Walker and his extra 40 lbs.

    And my team priorities are RG, RT, MLB, DT, and CB. What’s yours?

  594. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Cedric Benson & Chad OchoCinco carry a ton of baggage and they ripped it up for Cincy last year.

    big reason they made the playoffs last year IMO.

    Leon Hall & Rey Malalala got DUI’s recently

    Keith Rivers has “JLH Syndrome” after Hines Ward broke his jaw and put him out for the season …

  595. jhill Says:

    I would add QB, WR, C, and LT but I know it would be fruitless since those positions are filled.

  596. KoolKell Says:

    The Thing is, will the Raiders continue with the ZBS?

    Will Cable be Head Coach?

    I like Walker too, but, is he a ZBS guy?

  597. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Nanu nanu.

  598. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Mork from Ork!

  599. RaiderDebo Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
    1. To assume that the linemen allow JaMarcus to be sacked at a higher rate than Grads because they have more respect for him is a great theory. But tell me: In a court of law, how would you go about proving that?

    2. JR continues to go to him and Chazz keeps running good routes and catching the ball. If he hadn’t gotten hurt, JR never would have gotten benched.

    ***

    Debo: you asked Vegas to prove it. How can you prove your 2nd statement here?
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Lol! Point taken Rockstar. I guess I’d have to go the circumstancial route and highlight JRs production with Chaz at the end of last year, in the preseason and after his return, compared to his play without him during that stretch. Then it’s up to the jury. You’re right though. Is this better: It’s my opinion that if Chaz hadn’t gotten hurt, JR likely woudn’t have been benched.

  600. RaiderRockstar Says:

    my team priorities are RG, RT, MLB, DT, and CB. What’s yours?

    I would add QB, WR, C, and LT but I know it would be fruitless since those positions are filled.

    ***

    in that order?

    Mine are RT, DT, MLB, RG for starters

    CB, C and OT for depth.

    I understand Satele already got a vote of confidence from Cable this offseason, but I wasn’t impressed with his play AT ALL. I’m fine with bringing back Langston for depth and competition purposes. No depth at CB behind Nnamdi & CJ. Kick returner has been a need since Justin Miller was released and Nick Miller got hurt.

    I sort of like the ideas brought forth by Vegas and S&B Defense regarding the draft. take a DT at #8 overall. Overpay for the best possible MLB we can get in FA. Use that 2nd rounder on a LB and two 3rds to patch up the OL.

  601. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’m just messing with you Debo! haha

    so what does Crazy Al have up his sleeve this offseason?

  602. RaiderDebo Says:

    I wish I knew. I agree with all of you though that something will come out of left field like that D. Hall trade or something.

  603. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jhill –

    my team priorities are RT, DT, MLB, RG for starters

    CB, C and OT for depth.

    so basically I expect Al Davis to add players at QB, RB, WR, TE, DB (high in the draft) and K !!!

  604. RaiderRockstar Says:

    DAVIE, Fla. (AP) Joey Porter’s wish was granted Friday by the Miami Dolphins: They released him.

    The four-time Pro Bowl linebacker campaigned last week to be waived, saying in broadcast interviews he was frustrated about his reduced role in 2009 and doubted his relationship with coach Tony Sparano could be repaired.

    As his role diminished, Porter said, he talked with Sparano only on Sundays and stopped speaking with general manager Jeff Ireland and football czar Bill Parcells. Porter said he was the Dolphins’ best outside linebacker and unhappy about being replaced by pass-rush specialist Cameron Wake in some situations. He said he wanted to go to a team where he could play every down.

    Porter said he saw less playing time after Sparano held him out of a midseason game at Tampa Bay because he “went out to get something to eat” two nights before the game. The defense deteriorated at the end of the season, and Miami failed to make the playoffs, finishing 7-9.

    After Porter vented publicly, his departure was considered inevitable. By releasing him before March 4, the Dolphins save a $1 million roster bonus they would have owed him. He joined the Dolphins in March 2007, signing a five-year deal for $32 million, with $20 million guaranteed.

    The team announced the move in a three-paragraph news release without comment from Sparano or Ireland.

    An 11-year pro, Porter led the AFC in 2008 with 17 1/2 sacks. His sack total in 2009 fell to nine, still the Dolphins’ high, and he was named to the NFL’s All-Decade team for the 2000s in January.

    His departure increases the likelihood the Dolphins will retain 35-year-old Jason Taylor at outside linebacker. He and Porter were often ineffective as a tandem, and it was expected at least one of them would not return in 2010.

  605. Thec07 Says:

    so what does Crazy Al have up his sleeve this offseason?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Nothing of any real value…

  606. DMAC Says:

    I think a glaring need that everyone has forgot about is the full back position. It also really hurt our run game, besides the O-line. I say we draft a solid FB in the later rounds, unless you want to enter the season w/ Lawton, Russell, Reese etc.

  607. KoolKell Says:

    Al Davis building another team is NOT inspiring.

  608. Nnamdi21 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
    The Thing is, will the Raiders continue with the ZBS?

    Will Cable be Head Coach?

    I like Walker too, but, is he a ZBS guy?

    =======================================

    Yes.

    Yes.

    Walkers a bum and no he is not.

    Theres a reason we didn’t sign him and a reason Buffalo let him go after offering that big contract.

    I want us to have more beef to move the pile because our backs would be dangerous if they could consistently get solid blocking.

    Fix the O line, but not with Walker. Maybe as a back up back up.

  609. DMAC Says:

    We all saw what a good FB did for LT!

  610. Nnamdi21 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
    Jhill –

    my team priorities are RT, DT, MLB, RG for starters

    CB, C and OT for depth.

    =====================================

    You forgot fullback

  611. RaiderRockstar Says:

    option 1: bring back Lorenzo and give Oren proper time to heal

    option 2: sign Tony Richardson or Justin Griffith in FA

    option 3: draft a beast in Round 5-7

    option 4: keep the scrubs we have at FB

  612. DMAC Says:

    I’d rather draft in round 5-7 or sign Richardson.

  613. Thec07 Says:

    Denver ran the ZBS with shanny without a FB… The FB is going the way of fred barney and dino. Out of the teams that were in the playoffs how many feature an FB?

  614. Thec07 Says:

    Not feature but have a FB???
    What about the SB???

    This org needs to be progrssive, hopfully hue jack can create an offense that is not archaic….

  615. DMAC Says:

    Denver had good o-line and Davis.

  616. Thec07 Says:

    I would rather have one of the USC LB’s from last years draft. anyone of those 4 that got drafted is better than morrison in the mid section of the D.

  617. DMAC Says:

    You think the Texans will let Ryans get away?

  618. Thec07 Says:

    Exactly, so why is it we did not draft linemen the last 3 years????

    Skill players are a dime a dozen…

    Trench warfare is where the battle is won…

  619. Thec07 Says:

    No way Ryan stays will get a long term deal…

  620. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jets have one of the Top 3 FB’s in the game

    Vikings have some guy named Naufahu Tahi

    Saints have some guy named Kyle Eckel

    I’ve even seen the Colts use backup DT Eric Foster as a FB at times …

  621. Thec07 Says:

    Fix the trenches, prepare them for war….
    Do not draft 40 times, projects, or reaches.

    Draft real football players…

  622. Thec07 Says:

    RR, your right Bro but it just not what it use to be. Hell i see NO bring in one of the linemen and let him play FB…. To me FB is a waste of a spot on the roster.

  623. Thec07 Says:

    We could do the same thing us a backup linemen, as a FB… makes since, why pay a guy to use him a couple of plays a game, and will rarely if ever eun the ball or be part of the O…

  624. Thec07 Says:

    Time to go back to lurking

    LTR RR….

    NATION

  625. DMAC Says:

    Frank Gore couldn’t get it done w/ out Norris. Lt couldn’t get it done w/ out Neal etc. I think our running backs need that blocking FB.

  626. RaiderRockstar Says:

    we used backup OT Erik Pears as a blocking TE when Zach Miller was hurt and he dominated …

  627. RaiderRockstar Says:

    5pm in Podunk. later gents

    have a great/safe weekend

    treat your girlys good for V-Day !!!

  628. DMAC Says:

    later fellas, it’s 3 o’clock in east Oakland, Killa Kali, home of the Oakland Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiidddddddduuuuuuhhhhhsss!

  629. Seymour Bush Says:

    # DMAC Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    Frank Gore couldn’t get it done w/ out Norris. Lt couldn’t get it done w/ out Neal etc. I think our running backs need that blocking FB.
    ====================================================
    After watching the opening game against SD last night and watching O’neal smashing Discharger defenders and opening big gains in the first half, I have to agree.

  630. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Lorenzo Neal is a Raider fan and he says he can still play. Why not bring him back. then draft Ryan Matthews out of Fresno St. in the second round.

  631. GRIM Says:

    I thought Lorenzo Neal had a career injury and thats why we let him go.

  632. Norco Bob Says:

    Any of you guys want to hook up with Norco Bob manana?…HMB,..Mavericks,..its finally on!!!…lets party!…I am bringing a nice bag of hemp,..2 cases of Coronas,..a bag of fresh limes,..lots of bags of Funyons,…going to be great! :)

  633. GRIM Says:

    I would bob, but its a long drive from vegas.

  634. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Oneal hasn’t retired and is working out and ready to play. He wants to try to play two or three more seasons. He is listed as a free agent.

  635. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Norco I won’t be able to make that. But, I have to hook up with you at least one home game next year and have an ice cold beer.

  636. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Norco do you have any idea the danger you’re putting Krappy in with that offer?

    The old dog can’t resist Funyuns, let alone a bag of fresh limes. He’s probably already hopped in his bright red Krappy Mobile and is headed your way right now.

    Good Lord, besides him launching himself unknowingly off a cliff Thelma & Louise style, he could also:

    1) Get those Funyuns stuck in his ears and never again be able to hear the sound of himself crapping his curduroys.

    2) Swallow so many whole limes his wife will get citrus sprayed in her face the next time she pinches his cheek

    3) Smoke so much of the sticky green that he’ll imagine he’s Laird Hamilton and try to surf Mavericks on a frisbee

    And, most importantly, who the heck is going to finish the Swiss chalet if Krappy Krap bites the bucket?

  637. Senior Beeecham Says:

    That’s right. I said “bites” the bucket.

  638. Norco Bob Says:

    Lol…too funny beech.

  639. KoolKell Says:

    Hey Boob,

    Is Gary Radnich going to the beach with you?

  640. KoolKell Says:

    Lil Beech,

    Valentines Day must be a bummer for you, no?

    And Boob, too for that matter.

  641. Richochet Says:

    Bobbo? Spinner of tall tales? He who has traveled the world, and seen everything…in one afternoon?

    As I recall, you stated Sat you’ll be tripping the light fantastic on the links of Pebble Beach…where, as you stated, it’s the only time of year you can wander aimlessly wearing khaki’s and topsiders, this Saturday…

    And now you’re ALSO going to be at HMB, different dunes, same ocean, same day?

    Hell…might as well toss in a Rio trip, while you’re at it..make it a full day ;)

  642. KoolKell Says:

    Maybe Beech & Boob can get together for Valentines Day!

  643. Norco Bob Says:

    Will be at HMB tomorrow, for Mavs,..then the clam bake sunday,…the bag of grass will last hopefully both days. :)

  644. Norco Bob Says:

    By the way, been to the clambake every year for a long time,..still yet to pay….pretty easy to sneak in,..and its 60 bucks a round this year,..F them.

  645. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Yeah Krappy, if you call meeting 3 Polish super models on ecstasy at a suite in the Marina Del Rey Ritz Carlton for the whole weekend a “bummer”.

    But I would like your recommendation on what to send to the ladies at my local homeless shelter. I’m not that well informed on what deranged ghetto tramps like for Valentine’s, so maybe you can point me in the right direction.

  646. Norco Bob Says:

    Old kell,..you can easily get in for free,..just grab a rake,..they will let you right in…lol.

  647. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Krappy, I’m sure you’ve been to Warsaw with your fancy Navy pals – what’s Polish for “I can’t go another round, ladies”?

  648. Norco Bob Says:

    You could easily pass for a caddie or greens keeper old man. lol

  649. KoolKell Says:

    Beech,

    Lame.

  650. KoolKell Says:

    Beech,

    Get a life of your own.

  651. Einstein Says:

    Stool Kell what it do?

  652. Einstein Says:

    How the housing market in Alameda Stool Kell?

  653. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Krappy, I’m glad you can sympathize with my plight. I mean, ever since I stared doing the PX90, these super models think I can go all night. It’s like I’m being totally exploited for my ripped delts and quads.

    Whatever happened to discovering the man behind the brawn? I totally agree with you – it’s completely “lame”.

    So what’re your big plans with the little lady?

    Gulf Stream to London?

    Canoeing in Peru?

    Crapping the heck out of your golf pants while she puts?

  654. Norco Bob Says:

    I think old kell is havin a bad day,..folks in here make fun of him for posting 7 year stats all the time,..its clear he really doesnt have anything to say besides that,..he must be the life of the party in social settings!!!…so please old man, feel free to put some tokens in that googlie machine there in that laundry mat,…post some cool 7 year stats,..because thats really all you have,..hang in there old dude.

  655. Einstein Says:

    Senior Beeecham Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    Crapping the heck out of your golf pants while she puts?

    ————————————————-

    LMFAO!!! That was funny.

    I can just see it, Stool Kell’s ugly azz white wife changing his diaper on the putting green.

  656. Norco Bob Says:

    Come on now, dont make fun of the old mans lady,…have you seen him???…lol…by the way, someone in here claims that woman was at one time a man,..damn.

  657. Norco Bob Says:

    Besides, if you want a hot lady, you need to leave the bay area,…famous for ugly women, and homosexuals…I grew up in the bay area, couldnt get out of there fast enough,..one big open sewer.

  658. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Norco, Krappy can do WAY more than just post those stats over and over again.

    The wacky old derelict is very skilled at posting lame articles from the Bleacher Report and taking full credit for writing them.

    He’s also great at driving that bright red Krappy Mobile around town during parades.

    And of course, the old goat somehow remodeled his 1 bdr apt all by himself. Check out those sweet shots on his state-of-the-art web site.

  659. Norco Bob Says:

    Yes,..the old fool for sure can cut and paste,..very skilled at that. Also very good embarrassing himself.

  660. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Hey Krappy, where’d you get all those wonderful ideas for remodeling you and your wife’s 1 Bd apt.?

    I really hope you checked with you Super first, he could dock your security deposit if you make improvements without written approval.

    Just trying to help out in any way I can, old pal!

  661. vegas raider Says:

    Debo,

    I think your missing my point a little.

    No doubt, if Jamarcus pisses everyone off during the week, and goes out and balls on Sunday’s all will be forgiven. I don’t disagree with that, and only a moron would.

    My point is, he is making it harder on himself by not getting guys fully on board the Jamarcus Russell train during the work week.

    And I look at football just like other jobs. If the boss takes you out to eat for lunch, you always work harder that afternoon. The little things sound stupid and mundane, but that shyt works. Why do QB’s always buy their O-lineman rolexes and such when they make the Pro Bowl? Because it probably helps and certainly doesn’t hurt.

    That’s my point. Jamarcus has enough of an uphill battle already, he doesn’t need to compound the issue by allowing guys like Bruce Gradkowski to outwork him and endear himself to his teammates more.

  662. vegas raider Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    All that being said, a major difference between Russell and Grads is Grads plays MUCH FASTER. He has his team in and out of the huddle faster, he gets back faster, the gets the ball out faster. Just by doing that, the offensive line doesn’t have to hold their blocks as long and they look much better. And BTW, that was the very first thing Gruden worked on when he got here: playing much more uptempo.

    *****************************************

    Bingo!!!

  663. Norco Bob Says:

    God I miss Gruden,…Im still not over that one.

  664. 24 Says:

    Raider O – Yes…I moved to San Diego.

  665. DKnight007 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
    Hey Boob,

    Is Gary Radnich going to the beach with you?

    ^^^^^^^^
    Radnich….another old wind bag who thinks he can turn into Pete Franklin now that he is older and sounds like crap on the radio.

    Nope! LOL

  666. KoolKell Says:

    Beech

    Do you really think I read all of those krappy lullabies?

    Lame.

  667. KoolKell Says:

    Beech

    You write krappy short stories about me all day/every day. Really?

  668. KoolKell Says:

    Beech, Boob & Einstein.

    What’s wrong with that picture?

  669. Norco Bob Says:

    Whats wrong with that picture?…dude,..wasnt going to bring it up,..but,..that pic you make sure we all see once a week?…need to photoshop it,…gross,…oh, and photoshop your pic as well,…lol. hahahaha

  670. Norco Bob Says:

    Seriously old kell,..al davis looks better then you do,…not to mention hes a billionaire.

  671. RaiderDebo Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
    Debo,

    I think your missing my point a little.

    No doubt, if Jamarcus pisses everyone off during the week, and goes out and balls on Sunday’s all will be forgiven. I don’t disagree with that, and only a moron would.

    My point is, he is making it harder on himself by not getting guys fully on board the Jamarcus Russell train during the work week.

    And I look at football just like other jobs. If the boss takes you out to eat for lunch, you always work harder that afternoon. The little things sound stupid and mundane, but that shyt works. Why do QB’s always buy their O-lineman rolexes and such when they make the Pro Bowl? Because it probably helps and certainly doesn’t hurt.

    That’s my point. Jamarcus has enough of an uphill battle already, he doesn’t need to compound the issue by allowing guys like Bruce Gradkowski to outwork him and endear himself to his teammates more.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Loomk man, I think your missing my point a little. I mean, who says JR is “not getting guys fully on board the Jamarcus Russell train during the work week”? That’s my point. You’re making a lot of assumptions about the locker room that you can’t prove. And that’s not a knock against you. None of us know what’s going on behind closed doors. An please, no more comparisons between an NFL team and the regular workplace. Hell, I’d still like more evidence that JaMarcus doesn’t work hard. There is no one on this site that knows what he does week in. Bottom line, there are lots of reasons why this team, especially JR, has struggled. There’s tons of “tangible” evidence I can look at before making a bunch of assumptions about things I’m not privy to. Just my opinion.

  672. vegas raider Says:

    who says JR is “not getting guys fully on board the Jamarcus Russell train during the work week”?

    ***********************************

    His coach pretty much says that, Nmamdi said it at the end of the year.

    It is pretty much a known fact Bruce and Charlie outworked him this year.

    Every comment about how Russell needs to improve, and the company line is “figuring out what it takes to be an NFL QB, doing everything possible to be fully prepared on Sunday, and on and on and on”

    You need evidence Jamarcus didn’t work hard in 2009? Look at his waistline from the previous year. Look at his own admittance that he was fined by the Raiders for being “a little heavy” (his words) in training camp.

    These aren’t assumptions, these are facts. He can turn it around, no doubt, and I hope he does.

    But 2009 was a colossal disaster for Jamarcus. How does one go from 13 TD’s and 9 ints to 3 TD’s and 17 ints in one year? How do you let a career hack like Charlie Frye outperform you on the football field? Not working hard or taking the game serious.

  673. vegas raider Says:

    *17 turnovers, not INT’s*

  674. KoolKell Says:

    Yeah Russell is immature, stipulated.

    But, he has tremendous upside, that neither Frye of Grabowski have.

  675. vegas raider Says:

    And than there is the missing of the last Monday. The Raiders excused him, but Jerry reported that one verteran teammate was disgusted by it.

    I’m sure he wasn’t the only one.

  676. vegas raider Says:

    I hope we see that upside Kool, I really do.

    But how does anyone expect us fans, hint-hint Al Davis, to be anything about negative about the idea of him starting in 2010 just taking a shyt on the field like he did in 2009?

  677. vegas raider Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    I’m sure he wasn’t the only one.

    ******************************

    OK, well that’s an assumption

  678. jhill Says:

    Vegas, It doesn’t matter man.

    Did you notice the bad chemistry between Chaz and Russell on the field?

    Henderson needs to block someone man. Just as bad as all the things your saying Russell needs to do for his teammates. Cornell Green needs to not get pushed 4 yds back into the backfield on a 3rd and 1 running play.

    That is the stuff we need to work on.

    Russell needs to throw the ball to the WRs even if they cant catch.

    McFadden needs to hold on to the ball.

    All the off the field stuff? So what!

  679. KoolKell Says:

    Vegas

    How do you expect a General Manager who’s 29-83 to build a better team in 2010?

  680. vegas raider Says:

    You getting your bags packed for Baja Kool, lol.

    Seriously, that whole thing may be one of the weirdest things I have ever encountered in my 29 years on this earth.

  681. jhill Says:

    CJ and Branch need to have better communication when we play zone.

    Morrison needs to take better angles and learn how to shed a block.

    Bush needs to be able to stay on the field for more than 5 plays.

    We need to call more running plays witgh 2 TEs.

    We need to call a reverse.

    We need to get DMAC matched up with a LB or S.

    Plenty to do before we worry about off the field stuff!

  682. KoolKell Says:

    Russell had a couple of good games too, in 08′

  683. KoolKell Says:

    Why is it that Defensive Players for the Raiders never understand gap control?

    Every Freakin Year!

  684. 24 Says:

    We need someone who can call plays and setup an offensive plan that could put our guys in the best chance to succeed like running Bush more frequently, taking advantage of McFadden in the slot and using 2 TE sets with Miller and Brandon Myers. We also need another FB and it would be nice to finally see Javon Walker get involved if hes actually going to be on this team. I hope Hue Jackson has the power and ability to make all these things happen.

  685. vegas raider Says:

    Kool,

    At this stage, I guess we are hoping for blind luck.

    But I will continue to hope, and talk myself into something positive potentially happening.

  686. Raiders4eve Says:

    Just a question guys, do you guys think regardless of having Hue Jackson as our OC, do you guys really think we will be a running team just like the year when Kiffen coached us to become a top 10 running team???

    I think we have a philosophy that is backed and stamped by the Owner AL Davis. We are a vertical team passing and man to man defensive team. Meaning, if we do run the ball, it will be 25 to 30 times a game but expect JR or Grad whoever starts to throw the ball 30 to 35 times a game. Now, can JR win us some games if he is forced to throw more then 30 times? I guess we will see.

  687. KoolKell Says:

    C’mon, They never figured out how to use Randy Moss for christsakes.

    They get players, then can’t figure out how to use them.

  688. vegas raider Says:

    Out for a crappy buffet dinner.

    Check in later

  689. 24 Says:

    Raiders4eve – If theres one thing I noticed about the Raiders, our philosophy has generally been the same under every coach but what I noticed differently this year from last was the improvement of our defense going from Rob Ryan to John Marshall. The Defensive idea was still the same but the play calling for the situations at hand were far better and our defense got tighter after the 1st week against the Chargers when the defense went to its typical prevent defense. All of a sudden, Marshall was blitzing a lot more and our defense was causing more turnovers.

    Willie Shaw ran our defense well, Chuck Bresnahan was average, Rob Ryan was terrible and John Marshall was successful and adding Mike Waufle and Clancy Pendergast as Defensive coaches can only make us that much better in my opinion.

  690. Plunketthead Says:

    Everybody except owner Al Davis seems convinced that JaMarcus Russell, the No. 1-overall pick of the ‘07 draft, is a bust. Bruce Gradkowski was their best quarterback last season, but he is a restricted free agent.

    Adding Vick would give the Raiders an alternative should Russell continue to struggle. Despite the Raiders’ huge financial commitment Russell, he has looked better in one of his fur coats than he has on the field.

    Davis loves guys who can run and quarterbacks who can throw deep. Vick does both.
    Meanwhile, new offensive coordinator Hue Jackson has a superb reputation working with quarterbacks and likely would relish the chance to work with both Russell and Vick.
    http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/article/2010-02-11/michael-vick-could-be-jolt-energy-desperate-franchises

  691. Raiders4eve Says:

    You guys are dreaming if you expecting our offense to be similar to the Ravens, we dont have the same personal, Ray Rice is one of the top 5 running back in the game. They can run with two head monster between Ray and Willis. They have to run, they can play the clock to their advantage and their defense top 5 so they can play conservative type of game. We can’t. Simply, we are not top in anything excepting punting the ball. We need different strategies as far as I see, if we going to run we need to run smart alot of play action, if we going to pass, simplify the passing game for JR or Grad, if we going deep, DHB needs to catch it. Our OL needs to play smart not stupid penalties. This is what I see if we are top 15 rushing and top 20 passing, we are in the right track. Our defense needs to force turnovers and stop big plays. I dont think we will stop the big plays but at least we need to be solid in the redzone defense thats all i am hoping for.

  692. jhill Says:

    4eve,

    Why does Vertical passing attack translate to a lot of pass attempts to some of you. Vertical passing attack has to do with the type of routes that we run, not how many times we throw the ball.

    I HOPE we get back to running the ball and trying to have a top ten running attack. We need to run PA off of the run game and go vertical down the field with one of our WRs. The other guys need to run some shorter routes and flares.

  693. 24 Says:

    Raiders4eve – As far as our offense goes, I think a lot of the problems had to do with the play calling. There were many times Tom Cable could have stayed with the running game because it was working while Bush had the ball but for some reason, he would continue to get away from something that was working and would get into a passing mode. The fact is, you just can’t go passing every down if you don’t have a running game. Had he stayed more balanced and focused on the side that worked better, I think our offense would have played much better.

    Thats where Hue Jackson comes in. Like John Marshall, he should be able to call better plays in better situations and run the ball when we’re successful at it vs. going to the passing game just to develop it. The passing game will eventually come around without having to force it by having a steady running game and allowing defenses to move up on the offense and try to stop it. Once the defenses move up, the offense can start backing them up with passing and it will be more effective.

  694. Raiders4eve Says:

    Vick wont come to the Raiders, period. He has more options like Arizona, Panthers or the Bills. We are who we are and should move forward with the 4 QBs we got.

  695. Norco Bob Says:

    Gradkowski has no upside?…hmmm,..Beats the Steelers…check…beats the Bengals..check,..gets hurt behind crappy line,..Russell, monumental bust, fat, stupid, lazy, couldnt htt water fallin out of a boat,…but he has upside,..ok,..God, I dread getting old like old kell, being a senile old man must suck,..sorry old kell.

  696. jhill Says:

    Actaully, pull out the tape from the game 1 against SD and that’s EXACTLY how we should play.

    A lot of Bush and McFadden in the game together with McFadden motioning to the slot. A lot of single back with 2 TEs. Murphy and DHB will be much better next year than they were in game 1, and hopefully Chaz and Miller are healthy!

  697. raidertalk Says:

    Raiders4eve Says:
    February 12th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
    Vick wont come to the Raiders, period. He has more options like Arizona, Panthers or the Bills. We are who we are and should move forward with the 4 QBs we got.
    —————————————————-
    There is a slightly better chance that Vick could come to the Raiders this year. Last year Vick needed to “remake” his image and going to the Raiders would have just added fuel to his haters. Now that he is “reformed” will probably go where they pay him the most.

  698. RaiderLen Says:

    Evening Nation,

    Glad to see most of the crowd still banging away.

    Until the OL and DL are “fixed” we are shyt outa luck.

    No Matter who the starting QB is next year,until the lines are fixed…we will remain the suckers of the hind tit.

    Behind a strong OL we can get a much better assesment of the strenghts and weaknesses of our potential QB’s.

    Conversley, the DL and it’s ability to stop the run and sack the QB enhances everything the offense can do.

    It opens up the playbook.

    Our OL has, what I think is generally acknowledged, one above average O lineman…Gallery.

    All of the others, including Henderson, are backups, or also rans.

    Build a dominant OL through the draft, trade and free agency.

    Ensure the same with the DL.

    Then measure the results.

  699. Raiders4eve Says:

    Raidertalk

    why do you think AL will pay top money to Vick when he is committed to JR? JR is getting payed $9 mill, do you think he will over pay to get Vick to come here? Doesnt make sense bro. If I am vick, I will go to Arizona, they have all the weapons he needs, good OL, Wrs and RBs. Easy division and friendly system. No way AL will pay Vick close to $4mill if he is paying for JR and Grad.

  700. RaiderLen Says:

    If JR is on the roster, Mike Vick is the last thing we’d want.

    Make no mistake Vick is thinking “starter”

    He paid his penance to the NFL god and now want’s to get paid and ride high in the saddle again.

    If JR is outa here, I could see the old man making a play.

    Otherwise, no chance.

  701. 24 Says:

    Mike Vick sucked as a QB…I can’t understand why anybody cares to make him the leader of a team when his head isn’t into it 100%. The guy would constantly abandon the pocket to run way earlier than he should have because he didn’t see the field very well. He was a run 1st QB and we have enough RB’s on our roster, we don’t need another one playing QB. Vick is talented, thats undeniable but hes not a complete QB. His accuracy is terrible, his reads are terrible, hes lazy and he has a sick mind. No Thanks.

  702. 24 Says:

    Michael Vick Lifetime Stats

    86 Games, 53.7 Completion Percentage, 75.9 QB Rating

    Jamarcus Russell Lifetime Stats

    31 Games, 52.1 Completion Percentage, 65.2 QB Rating

    Vick has literally had 86 games to improve. I mean really…you see this as an improvement?

  703. RaiderLen Says:

    24, I agree.

    The deal is this. If we had a Peyton Manning or a Drew Brees, the “Vick to the Raiders” topic would be moot.

    Because we suck, many of us grasp at straws for solutions.

    Fix the lines. Measure the results.

    :) That’s my mantra ala SnB.

    I think I’ll now post repeatedly about the lines.

  704. buckeyeraider Says:

    Hello raider Nation,
    Kell, What do you mean the Raiders couldn’t figure out how to use Randy Moss? Everybody remembers how the Sad saga ended in Oakland, but few remember how it began.Randy Moss came out like gangbusters in Oakland, his first year under Norv. Season opener vs. New England 74 yrd touchdown. Made Rodney Harrison look silly in the open field. Week 2 vs KC..68 yd td. 2nd td called back on bogus penalty. His 1st season as Raider began to unravel wk 5, vs SD. Got absolutely mugged by 2 charger db’s. Kneed in the groin.No flags. A move that caused former Raider lb Danny Clark to pound LT in the gnads in a pileup, in retaliation. Moss missed a few games that year but played hard, and played hurt. I believe he ended up with about 1,000 yds and 8-10 td’s. It was the following year in Shell’s B&B offense with a struggling rookie Andrew Walter at QB, that Moss quit on his teammates, and acted like a pouting little Biotch. He had to go, and I’ve hated his punk azz ever since.

  705. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Vegas, I know you’re enjoying a kickass buffet, but it’s only 5 months until the Great Baja Adventure. You gotta fix that diet, pal, if you wanna mack on some of the hottest chicas this side of Selma Hayek.

    Them senoritas don’t take to kindly to American bloggers with beer guts.

    And don’t believe Krappy’s little diversionary tale about him going to Copenhagen with his ancient Navy pals.

    You know what a big silly buns Krap Krap is – he’s just trying to build anticipation.

  706. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Man, this rookie game is kickass!

    Especially when you’ve got a few underage swimsuit models making guacamole at my mini bar.

    Holla!

  707. RaiderLen Says:

    Senoir Beecham, Pardon the interuption of the party with the teenybopers and guacamole.

    How does this affect an improvement of our OL and DL?

  708. KoolKell Says:

    Lil Beech

    I’ve posted pix’s of myself in Switzerland and Tanzania. I don’t have to lie about Copenhagen.

    But YOU. You start the Baja fantasy after I went to Cancun.

    You just want to be like me, pootbutt.

  709. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Because when Al starts blowing picks on draft day, I’ll be kicking back with my honies and tasty dip and the stress will roll right off my martini glass.

    You gotta try it, broham. A ton of these blog-o-dorks will be whining about canceling their season tickets or becoming Charger fans when Al picks Taylor Mays.

    But if you kick it hardcore with the babes and get loose with a few margs, your draft day will turn out righteous no matter what!

  710. r8eray Says:

    Karlos Dansby, Arizona Cardinals (29)
    Dansby has played pretty well for the Cardinals, but isn’t making the number of impact plays we’ve seen out of him in the past. Quite frankly, the linebackers as a unit have been a big problem for the defense this year. At the top of his game, Dansby is one of the better scheme-diverse linebackers in the league and will likely have a number of teams lined up ready to woo him this offseason if the Cardinals don’t make an early offer. After their exit from the postseason, Dansby said that no contract negotiations have begun and wouldn’t be surprised if he isn’t playing in Arizona next season.

    Barrett Ruud, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (27) – Restricted FA (UFA-CBA)
    Locking the young middle linebacker up should be a priority for the Buccaneers and with all the cap room they have, it’s a little surprising they couldn’t get it done midseason. Ruud is one of the league’s best pure tacklers and has great instincts. Ruud’s new deal should be in the area of what Bart Scott received the past offseason (6 years, $48 million) from the Jets. He’s the leader of the defense now and will consistently be among league leaders in tackles for the next several years, as he is again this year. There hasn’t been much said about Ruud and a long-term extension over the last few weeks, unless it’s happening totally behind closed doors.

  711. buckeyeraider Says:

    Kell,
    Finally clicked on your link and saw the pictures the other night. Congratulations. You seemed to have done well for yourself and your family. Hope you enjoy your golden years in Switzerland.

  712. r8eray Says:

    Karlos Dansby, and/or Barrett Ruud and/or Joey Porter in the mix along with Peppers!!

    Mark my words Raider Nation…..Playoffs!!

  713. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Krappy, why would I want to be an elderly, bitter plagiarist with my sweatpants full of man chili?

    And who the heck knows who are in your pictures, it’s so dark it could be any one. Heck, I thought you posted a few shots of the Nutty Professor hanging out with the tribesmen.

    Krappy, you’ve had some epic meltdowns all week and I feel another one coming soon. So excited!

  714. RaiderLen Says:

    If Al were to sign any or all of the players mentioned he couldn’t do worse then the Jivin Walker, T Kelley, and D hall sighnings.

  715. buckeyeraider Says:

    Antonio Pierce made those disparaging remarks about the Raiders after the Giant game this year. He said it was almost like a scrimmage instead of an NFL game. But the reason he made them was he was a lifelong Raider fan, growing up as a kid in LA, and it pained him to see his favorite team take a butt whooping like that, without putting up much of a fight. If healthy, he could be a nice signing. He is a physical, play making MLB.

  716. RaiderLen Says:

    Buckeye,

    Any Player, at any salary. I don’t care how it gets done.

    Find a way to win.

  717. buckeyeraider Says:

    I would still rather see Al make a push for Karlos Dansby. If they could pry him from AZ with some of those free agent dollars Al’s been throwing around lately, that would be epic. That guy is a stud. He’s also a lot younger than Pierce. If they could plug the gaping hole at MLB in free agency, that would allow them focus the draft on the offensive and defensive lines. And maybe a corner to groom as CJ Johnson’s eventual replacement/nickle back.

  718. RaiderLen Says:

    Buckeye,

    If The old man can plug holes immediateley with money, especially at critical positions, like MLB, I’m all for it.

    That leaves more bulletts in the gun come draft day.

    I wouldn’t want to build a long term soulution through free agency, but if the Raiders are smart, mabey they can find a good mix between free agency, draft, and trade.

  719. jhill Says:

    6 years 48 million to a MLB named Rudd? Seems a bit more than we need to pay. For that coin, I’d prefer to go with a MLB at 8.

  720. buckeyeraider Says:

    Hopefully Dansby had a decent relationship with Pendergast as his DC in AZ. Maybe Clancy, (along with some of Al’s crazy cash) could be instrumental in luring Karlos to Oaktown. Same goes for Hue Jackson. Maybe he could help recruit Marshall Yanda to follow him from Baltimore. I believe he could help bolster the right side of the OL at guard or tackle. Couple those moves with a nice draft, and the Raiders would have one hell of an offseason.

  721. r8eray Says:

    Buckey, I don’t really care how much money Al spends this offseason..I’m tired of losing! I want the Silver & Black back in the playoffs, back to winning! Hell…he could spend twice as much then Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones put together…I DON’T CARE!!! JUST WIN BABY!!!!

  722. buckeyeraider Says:

    Len,
    I agree with you. The best way to build a team is through the draft. The Daniel Snyder fantasy football model of throwing money at all the big name free agents doesn’t work. That being said, you can’t ignore free agency as a way to improve your football team. Signing a couple of young free agents to fill some key holes in this roster, along with a solid draft, would be ideal. We all know Al Davis is willing to spend the money, he just hasn’t spent it wisely, here lately.

  723. buckeyeraider Says:

    Goodnight Folks.

  724. HayesDaze37 Says:

    It’s a great night to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?

    Now, KK — As much as you keep trying to tell everybody WAY TOO MUCH about yourself…it’s almost impossible to NOT know exactly who you are.

    Some of us in here already know who you are, where you work and live, what you drive, who your friends are, what your wife looks like, exactly where your property is…and even MORE than that, but I don’t want to elaborate on that stuff.

    Some of us in here can actually have disagreements with you (don’t we all, at some point?), and not be a problem to you outside this format.

    BUT…this is a sick sick world, and you are being even more irresponsible with your/your family’s personal info, than you are with your ridiculous nonsense about blaming Al Davis for every problem in the East bay.

    KK — We aren’t pals…but I know you have a responsible life outside this blog. You’d be even more responsible by censoring your own comments sometimes.

    Unless you don’t really care how much the crazies in the world know about you. In that case…

    …nevermind.

    This message brought to you by HD37 — doing my part to keep the blogwaves safe.

  725. Biz Markie Says:

    Oh snap….guess what I saw?…I miss da feetball!

  726. Biz Markie Says:

    Oh snap,…..all y`all ready fo sum football? Oh hells ya. of snap i miss ma raiduhs.

  727. Senior Beeecham Says:

    It’s true, Krappy is a very disturbed / deranged old freak who should be locked inside a space shuttle and blasted to another galaxy.

    But I’ll accept getting the wacky old goof into a good senior care home where he can get the attention he needs – and deserves.

    Then he can regale all the other geezers with all of his made up stories about visiting foreign countries, building his chalet in Switzerland and remodeling his 1 bdr apt.

    The Opening Ceremonies kick butt!

  728. Biz Markie Says:

    Oh snap,..whos y`alls favorite Raiduh?…mines # 2!…oooooh snap! luv dat brudduh.

  729. Biz Markie Says:

    Oh snap!…dat dude on dat loogie car, he died!..oh snap! rest in peace you crazy fool, dat littel go cart is whack!

  730. r8eray Says:

    Oh snap….guess it’s past my bed time!!
    Good Night Raider Nation!!

  731. priesttj Says:

    I’m of the same mind as most posting here today. If we fix the Oline this team gets much better. The reason I start with the Oline is because if we can stay on the field the defense benefits greatly. You can’t run or pass if you can’t protect. If you can run you can pass. If you can pass you can score. If you can score you can force the other team to score and if their forced to score that helps your defense tremendously. Teams can’t run nearly as much if they are one dimensional. Which is what happens when you must score to keep up. That allows the defense to pinback their ears and rush the QB (means blitzes attack the offense) and force t/o’s.

    Now we aren’t close t becoming either the Colts or the Saints. But the way you beat both teams is by running down their throats and scoring TD’s eating clock and making the one dimensional. Our defense when it does have a lead(rarely) it is very good. As we saw against some of the better teams in the league.

    Without the Oline even a great defense will suffer because they will spend the entire game on the field. Only to tire out and give up plays late in the game and lose. Haven’t we seen enough of that over the past 7 years? Fix the OLine and I think we have enough talent on offense for either of the QB’s including Russell to be very successful. With speed we have at WR Russell arm becomes very valuable. He has a gun and with the kind of speed we have in Murphy, Chaz,DHB, Watkins, Higgins and Miller. Then the TE’s this team should score. Everyone is a year older and better. That always helps.

  732. Seymour Bush Says:

    So there haven’t been any posts since 10:48? Ok then.

  733. 4evaRaider Says:

    :) Nation

  734. 4evaRaider Says:

    WOOW…..that West Virginia Pitt game with 3 overtimes was awesome

  735. Plunketthead Says:

    A blast from the past for another dirtweed weekend.
    http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2008/02/25/jockeying-for-position/

  736. 4evaRaider Says:

    Hey Plunk! hope all is good with you!

  737. Plunketthead Says:

    Kiff on Jaworkoutwarrior

    – The offseason of JaMarcus Russell.
    “He’s having a phenominal offseason. He came back 10, 11 days before we even started,” Kiffin said. “So he was with our coaches and with our strength staff before everybody else got back here five weeks ago and he hasn’t missed a thing since. Most the guys are really here three, four hours a day. He’s here about five-and-a-half, six hours a day.

    “He’s here first thing in the morning, he has position meetings in the morning, he goes in and lifts and he goes in and runs. He comes in and changes and goes back out and throws with the guys. By far he’s in the best shape since I’ve seen him, even if you go back to his pro day at college. So I know he’s real excited about the upcoming season as well.”

    The status of running back LaMont Jordan.

  738. Plunketthead Says:

    Thanks 4eva

    Everything is good as can be expected with the death of construction and my rosy future doing sidejobs going up in smoke.

    I am currently making “tubebaits” and leadheads for a fishing lure company. The pay sucks almost as much as the job itself.

    The good news is I have my health, and my tools. I even have a grubstake if I have to get licensed again to find work.

    Just waiting for Obummer to start building nukeplants here in the AZ desert.

  739. Plunketthead Says:

    http://www.dontevenreply.com/

    Wanna a good laugh this morning?
    I have tears in my eyes.

  740. Plunketthead Says:

    http://www.dontevenreply.com/view.php?post=84

    Theres the link with comments to the hidden weapons email.

  741. Plunketthead Says:

    You will be able to pour your enemies a nice warm cup of lead with this fine purchase. Asking $900 for the gun/cup combo.

  742. Plunketthead Says:

    Still thirsty for justice? Try this badass M16A2 disguised as a 24-pack of soda

  743. 4evaRaider Says:

    Nuke plants or give us another extension in benefits

  744. 4evaRaider Says:

    Yeah I think I picked-up a side job.We let my buddy come over and hunt on the state park behing my house sooo he dont wanna lose this little strip of paradize so he gonna let me paint his garage!!!!

  745. Plunketthead Says:

    Another good one, soccer or football.

    Be A Man

    http://www.dontevenreply.com/view.php?post=71

  746. 4evaRaider Says:

    I’ma plumber not a painter but….WHO CARES!!!!

  747. Plunketthead Says:

    I wish I could collect unenjoyment
    My pals in Vegas are getting 375 a week and the extensions keep coming

  748. 4evaRaider Says:

    OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    that is some FUNNY shizzzittt PLUNK hahahahahahaaaaaahahahaahahahahaha

  749. 4evaRaider Says:

    well mine ran out somehow lol

    I was on tier 2 and they ram-rodded me straight to tier 4 so I ask what happened to tier 3 and all I get is crikkets….It’s like the state of floirda stole my tier 3 benefits….So come-on Obama I been putting into the system for the last 30 years or so and now I WANT MY $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

  750. neilb Says:

    Morning to the AM crew!

  751. buckeyeraider Says:

    Good morning Raider fans,
    The Raiders are going to have to do some creative accounting this year. I believe they already have the leagues highest payroll. Have to sign another top 10 pick. Resign Seymour and Jano long term, and on top of that hopefully bring in an impact free agent or two. I hope they have some guys willing to restructure. Warren, Huff, Kelly, and yes you too Jamarcus. They’re going to have to trim some fat off of some of those contracts.

  752. buckeyeraider Says:

    Yes, hopefully they can trim some fat off of Jamearcus as well.HaHa. Man, I hope the stories about him being in Az getting in shape are true.

  753. neilb Says:

    Don’t forget Dmac.He’s getting a boatload of money for doing very little.

  754. Plunketthead Says:

    Neil thats not quite true.
    He puts Tiger to shame in the baby making department.
    Custody battles, Clubbing with his posse, entrenching himself in the wannabee gangster club in Little Rock

    He has little time for mundane things like football.

  755. Plunketthead Says:

    Tim Lincecum makes me want to become a Giant fan for about two seconds, then I come to my senses.

    Trade him to the Raiders for twinkletoes and Jawannabee

  756. buckeyeraider Says:

    You’re right Neil. Dmac as well. I’ve read that Gallery has always been willing to help the team, and has restructured several times to lower his cap figure. I hope some of his teammates are willing to be team oriented, and defer some money, as well.

  757. neilb Says:

    Kate Mara makes me want to become a Giants fan!

  758. vegas raider Says:

    Congrats to the Freak Tim Lincecum.

    Even though I am an East Bay guy, I grew up a Will Clark fan and a SF Giants fan.

    $23 million can get that guy a bunch of reefer!!

  759. 4evaRaider Says:

    I got just what he looking 4 :)

  760. neilb Says:

    The weather any better 4eva ?

  761. r8eray Says:

    Good Morning Nation!

  762. Biz Markie Says:

    Oh snap, someone mention weed?

  763. 4evaRaider Says:

    The SUN is breaking through every now and then Neilb!!!.And is it ever NICE :)

  764. 4evaRaider Says:

    Par-don my manners…..how are ya 2day Neilb?

  765. r8eray Says:

    Plunkett, it”s more like $400 + ext.+ext.+ext.
    Youre talking about people (like myself) being on unempolyment for 3+years!!

    And people say Obama is not doing his job!!

    Oh snap….guess what I started!

  766. neilb Says:

    4eva…

    I’m doing fine and yourself ? Good to hear your weathers getting better!

  767. 4evaRaider Says:

    Just fine Neilb!….It finally stopped raining so now I can take off my leaky brake-line hose and put on a new one….man no brakes REALY sucks lol

  768. neilb Says:

    Toyota ?

  769. vegas raider Says:

    I guess that’s the good thing with sales.

    Not much job security, but if you can sell, there is always a desk open somewhere out there.

  770. neilb Says:

    I make parts for the car industry.Last year sucked but with all the trouble going on with Toyota,a big customer for my factory,this year could be just as bad.

  771. 4evaRaider Says:

    Buick

  772. neilb Says:

    …….and with that I’m off for some dinner.

    Have a great Saturday everyone.

  773. neilb Says:

    Ford for me!

    C ya 4eva!

  774. 4evaRaider Says:

    C-YA Neilb!!!!

  775. r8eray Says:

    Chevy,and Ford!

  776. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    I’m trying to fix up (not enough money to “restore”), a 1971 shortbed fleetside Chevy.

    Alot of work but, good times.

  777. 4evaRaider Says:

    R8eray….have you seen the new Ford 150 diesel? 6.7 litre and goes through the Arizona desert ay 100mpr in 4wheel drive?

  778. Plunketthead Says:

    R8

    three years?
    Thats going on across the country. It cant end well.
    Time to rebuild the infrastructure before we all turn into lazy deadbeats.

  779. Plunketthead Says:

    I have a 97 silver and black Powerstroker.
    I hope it holds out for another 200,000 miles

  780. 4evaRaider Says:

    ummm whats that Plunk?

  781. 4evaRaider Says:

    oh my little duce coupe

    http://cruzintheavenue.com/CarsWeDrove.htm

  782. Plunketthead Says:

    Ford F250 diesel

  783. buckeyeraider Says:

    Well fellas I’m out for awhile. My lil girl has a basketball game. The kid can shoot the rock. Over the summer she embarrassed a bunch of us guys in the neighborhood playing horse at the end of the block. She’s a tenacious little defender too. Don’t know where she gets her skills. Not from me. I could barely dribble one of the damn things. Hoops was not my game. Football and lil league baseball only. Hope to check back later.

  784. r8eray Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    February 13th, 2010 at 9:12 am
    R8

    three years?
    Thats going on across the country. It cant end well.
    Time to rebuild the infrastructure before we all turn into lazy deadbeats.
    ______________________________________________________

    It can’t end well……more like WW III!!

  785. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for a Ford F250 diesel!

  786. Midwest Fan Says:

    I’m about 5 mins from Gallery’s parents house. Thinking about going over and sending him my best with his recovery. Any ideas on what I should take over?

  787. HayesDaze37 Says:

    It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?

    MWFan — Gallery needs a recliner and massages. Hook him up.

    Oh…and the Raiders MUST pick O-Line early this year, because your average professional athlete simply does not return from multi-level back fusion. That is no minor procedure.

    The Draft??

    MLB/O-Line/D-Line. All taken in the first 3 rounds.

    A trade down could bring a few more prospects to the table…at MUCH lesser prices than just one top-10 (who has the same chance of success/failure as mid-round picks).

  788. Plunketthead Says:

    My truck runs better but the Little Rock Gangsta makes the big bucks.

  789. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Of course, Al will try to plug a few holes outside the draft…

    …keep on swingin’ for the fences, Al!

    Oh…and YES, even JaMarcus will be open to re-structuring his deal, when crunch-time is upon him. There isn’t a player in the league who isn’t afraid of next year’s impending lockout.

    A nice little bonus in the bank this year could go a long way toward paying the bills next year during the freeze.

    Things are tough all over. Even for (some) millionaires. Just ask ‘em.

  790. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Bishing about Obama is missing the point. The Reap-pube-lycans had 10-12 yrs to fah-k shy-te up. can’t expect Obummer to fix it all in 1 year.

    I wish he’d take his power as President seriously and go after the crooks in big business that raped our country.

    C’mon Obama, Cheney’s abuse of the power of President was unprecedented and done for evil.

    The least you can do is abuse that power to set things right.

    DESTROY ILLEGAL MONOPOLIES!!!!

  791. HayesDaze37 Says:

    There may be more re-structured deals this year — throughout the League — than we’ve seen in a long time. Maybe forever.

    There will be some journeyman bargains to be had through trades and Free Agency this year, too.

    Al will get a few right this year.

    Oh, yes he will, you doubters.

  792. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Nnamdi, you forgot to mention the Dems are in bed with Wall Street, they have the market cornered on cronie capitalism but thats ok with you. How about Goldman Sachs, your ok with them getting HUGE tax breaks by your pals.

    Your also ok with Barback giving out Millions to buy votes for his Health care plan that nobody wants & wont even pass through the Dem congress.

    In the dictionary they should a picture of you with your head in your anus. Maybe i’ll email Websters and give them a holla!

  793. DKnight007 Says:

    Oh Priesst and Hayezdaze,

    Haven’t you learned anything the last 7 years while the old man has ruined the franchise?

    Or perhaps do you two actually work for the old man? Do you get paid to try and sell this messed up product?

    Sure sounds like you might be one of the sad lot of season ticket reps who has to try and trick people into wasting their hard earned money on a mismanaged operation and product.

  794. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Nnamdi,
    How about Navy Corpsemen? What an intellectual that 0bama is! I bet he is the Pres of ALL 57 states! 0bama might be the most ignorant Pres we’ve ever had, he makes Bush look like a rocket scientist.

    lmao

  795. HayesDaze37 Says:

    DK — Dunno what you’re talking about. I’ve spent a small fortune on my Raiders all these years — and never on the payroll once. Please don’t knock my lifelong loyalty by claiming I might work for the Old Man. But, if I did, he’d have at least one truly loyal employee working for him.

    As far as ruining HIS team? Hey, it’s HIS team…no matter how I (or you) feel about it. Nobody is making ANY of us be a fan, we choose to do it. I don’t believe this team is close to being ruined…just beat-up and a little (a lot) bloodied.

    Al will get it right, and set it right, again.

  796. HayesDaze37 Says:

    And — Although I admire BHP’s loyalty to the team he loves so much, he and I vary differently on a number of issues…including a WIIIIIDE gap in our feelings toward one JaMarcus Russell.

    Where BHP still KNOWS JaMarcus will “get it” — I have seen enough to know the leap is probably too large for the kid. (But, I still don’t throw him out yet.)

    Here’s one: JaMarcus has “more potential” than Gradkowski? Why’s that exactly — because of the cannon arm? If cannon arm were THE answer, the Hall Of Fame would be littered with Billy Joe Tollivers.

    What I know is the REAL answer…great quarterbacks have bigger brains than arms. Street smarts/high IQ/football smarts, whatever. Just have smarts…ESPECIALLY the football type. I worry about JaMarcus’s ability to process information quickly enough at this level.

    Of course, Gradkowski (or Frye, for that matter) has as much potential for success at this early stage of his career as JaMarcus does.

    Having seen all of them under the gun, and in front of the camera, the argument is easy to make that the other guys actually may have MORE potential, because they seem to “get it.”

    That’s just one example of our differing opinions… yet, I will always respect BHP’s undying Raiders loyalty. Even when he’s wrong.

  797. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Midwest Fan Says:
    February 13th, 2010 at 10:13 am

    I’m about 5 mins from Gallery’s parents house. Thinking about going over and sending him my best with his recovery. Any ideas on what I should take over?

    ………….

    A contract with the Jets might make him feel better.

  798. Midwest Fan Says:

    Don’t think I can provide that.

  799. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Well then there’s not much you can do for him. As long as anyone’s a Raider, they’re miserable.

  800. KoolKell Says:

    Joe Montana is the only great QB I can think of with an avg arm.

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  802. NoMoreFargas Says:

    Oh what a saint Gallery is an overpaid G who couldn’t cut it at LT if you see his parents see if they have T-rex arms just like Robert. Funny how you don’t usually waste the overall 2 on a G. So hey maybe Dmac,DHB,Russell should just switch to lower value spots so they can get love like T-Rex Gallery does.

  803. RaiderDogg Says:

    Oakland could be getting a new stadium
    Posted by Mike Florio on February 13, 2010 2:56 PM ET
    We’ve been hearing rumblings for weeks now that the best location for a new 49ers stadium could be, of all places, Oakland.

    And from those rumblings are coming the first hints of reality. According to Chris Metinko of the Oakland Tribune, the Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum Authority Board will consider a request for a “feasibility study” regarding the possibility of building a new football stadium next to the place where the Raiders currently play.

    “The Raiders have been interested in this for a long time,” Deena McClain, Executive Director of the Authority, told Metinko. “This is a more organized look to see what the options are.”

    If the 49ers and the Raiders remain in the Bay Area, the league wants the two teams to share a venue. The proposed site in San Francisco is not, we’re told, economically feasible. And we’ve heard increased chatter that the Niners’ efforts to build in Santa Clara won’t ultimately succeed without the Raiders playing there, too.

    So Oakland might be the best place, no matter how loudly 49ers fans complain.

  804. 24 Says:

    Gallery may not have worked out as a LT and I mostly blame the Norv Turner/Shell regime for screwing that up but the fact that he became a pretty good Guard is a lot more that can be said for the likes of other 1st round picks we’ve had in the past.

    So far and they still have time to turn things around…Darrius Heyward-Bay, Darren McFadden, Jamarcus Russell aren’t doing well.

    Micheal Huff finally came around this year and needs to prove that he can continue his progress.

    Fabien Washington was a mixed bag, we scored with Nnamdi Asomugha (which was a surprise pick), Phillip Buchanon, Napolean Harris, Derrick Gibson, Janikowski finally had his best season as a kicker, Matt Stinchcomb, Charles Woodson was and still is a beast, Mo Collins, Darrell Russell and Rickey Dudley just to name a few.

    I think having Gallery still on the team and playing at a high level even if its at another position is awesome considering our history.

  805. RaiderDogg Says:

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    February 13th, 2010 at 10:51 am
    Bishing about Obama is missing the point. The Reap-pube-lycans had 10-12 yrs to fah-k shy-te up. can’t expect Obummer to fix it all in 1 year.

    I wish he’d take his power as President seriously and go after the crooks in big business that raped our country.

    C’mon Obama, Cheney’s abuse of the power of President was unprecedented and done for evil.

    The least you can do is abuse that power to set things right.

    DESTROY ILLEGAL MONOPOLIES!!!!
    ———————————————-
    Amen

  806. 24 Says:

    RaiderDogg – That would be pretty awesome and it would piss off a lot of 49er fans. I like it. Haha.

  807. RaiderDogg Says:

    24

    I still cringe at the thought of the 9ers and Raiders sharing a stadium. Although, the thought of all of those 9er fans crying about it does soften the blow somewhat :)

  808. 24 Says:

    RaiderDogg – Haha…I just want whats best for the Raiders and if that means sharing a stadium than so be it. Its not like we’d all be there at the same time unless they played each other that day. Imagine all those 49er fans crying over having to drive into Oakland.

    I’m out to the beach, take care.

  809. Raiders4eve Says:

    To be honest. We need a state of the art new stadium with wifi technology and big screen something like what Jerry Jones done. We would host a SB, concerts, everything. Who knows maybe the Raiders play against the 49ers in a SB game at home sharing the stadium, that would be the best thing for the bay. I rep the bay to the fullest and don’t carr abt where the team is as long ad they r in the bay. I would love it to be in the 510 let whiners cry abt that besides we need more jobs in Oakland maybe black on black crime would end if hoodstars get some jobs around here.

  810. priesttj Says:

    Hd37, My belief in Russell is very simple it is his ability to see the field an get the ball down the field to speed. And what I’v esen of him soo far in this league is his competitiveness late in games which some of you just don’t understand. I watched the Steelers game yesterday for the umteenth time. Gradkowski missed wideopen recievers who might have scored 4-5 times. We went into the 4th qrtr with a grand total of 6 points. In the 4th qrtr Gradkowski was as lucky as he was good. Don’t believe go back and watch that game. He should’ve been picked at least twice. He showed real moxy and competitivness and had the metal to win that game. But what I saw was a guy who had evrything go right for him more than a guy who was talented.

    When Russell has been in that same situation he has shown moxy and he competes. And the biggest thing is he wins. Russell inexperince is clear. his talent IMO is obvious. the coaches see it I see and so does the owner. All he need is time on the saddle. A coach who gets it and a running game. Iknow you guy’s focus on what he hasn’t done but I focus on what he can do and it’s considerable.

    gradkowski can’t carry Russell jock. He is a journeyman QB with a lot of fire who got in there when the team needed and helped. If you see him over a 16 game schedule you’ll really know what I’m saying is true. Even in the Cinci game he was very inconsistent.

    It’s just that Riader fans are very down on Russell and Grads was a breath of fresh air for them. But that air would get very old very quick if he played every game trust me. he was just a little better than Russell last year and did it when everyone wanted to see it. So everyone is sold on this kid but he is a flash in the pan if I’ve ever seen one.

  811. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Don’t you love how Davis shills will tell you that the reason they support Davis is because he’s not going to change anyway, then they offer up a suggestion like hiring a GM or a coach like Cowher…as if Al’s going to do that! Funny how it’s ok for them to wish for the impossible, but when you do it, you’re being disruptive. Makes me wonder if there’s another reason they support Al. Maybe because…they’re dumb enough to really believe that he can turn it around, but they want to sound smart so they keep those beliefs close to the vest and pretend to be pragmatists? Me thinks.

  812. NoMoreFargas Says:

    Man hate to say it but I agree with you priest on Grads guy is a journeyman who would look awful for a whole season. I’ve been a Raider fan for life and I know no way Al gives up on Russell already he doesn’t work that way so I know he is the starter going into next season, I’m most scared of Justin Fargas being our starting rb in 2010 when we have a Michael Bush.

    GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  813. Plunketthead Says:

    The real Raider hater never tires off hating on the Raiders does he?

  814. Plunketthead Says:

    Grads is young, he is deadly accurate, and he will outwork anyone.

    I think he will continue to improve.

  815. 4evaRaider Says:

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    # Mistabr0wn Says:
    February 13th, 2010 at 11:14 am

    In the dictionary they should a picture of you with your head in your anus. Maybe i’ll email Websters and give them a holla!
    ===================================================

    Does anyone have any idea what this guy is trying to say here? And isn’t he the one that says no one can understand Jamarcus?

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