Hard to imagine a stadium is `feasible’
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, February 13th, 2010 at 2:12 pm in Oakland Raiders.
So the there’s a “feasibility study” on the table for the Oakland-Alameda County Authority board to look in to the possibility of a football stadium which could house both the Raiders and 49ers, according to the Oakland Tribune.
The study would cost $125,000, and seemingly wouldn’t take nearly that much to determine city and county residents are wary of anything having to do with their local government in conjunction with the Raiders.
Taxpayers still have $150 million to go to cover Coliseum upgrades from the deal that brought the Raiders back to Oakland 15 years ago. They’ve had three winning seasons during that span, are currently on a string of seven consecutive blackouts and even their own fans are paying for billboards calling for Al Davis to surrender football decisions to a general manager.
It’s not like sending JaMarcus Russell and Tom Cable out to rally the public is going to build a wave of enthusiasm for the project.
Look, I’m all for a shiny new facility even if it’s half of what Jerry Jones pulled off in Dallas. But Jones got it done with considerable help from Arlington, and the city of Oakland and Alameda County are simply not going to be able to fund a stadium. Nor should they, in the current economic climate.
When it comes to stadiums in the Bay Area, the biggest problem faced by local franchises to get something done is AT&T Park. The San Francisco Giants have set the bar impossibly high, paying for the stadium themselves and paying down the debt themselves.
That’s the starting point.
And probably the ending point, as well.
Of course, I’m the same guy who picked the Colts to win big in the Super Bowl. Look forward to all your e-mails when they break ground on the new stadium.
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February 13th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
numero uno
February 13th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
do i even have a life lol?
February 13th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Truth is NoMoreFargas,nobody really knows what Gradkowski would look like for 16 games.NO ONE knows if he is a flash in the pan or not.He certainly blew-away #2
February 13th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
I agree Jerry. Getting local taxpayers to do anything for Al Davis is out of the question.
February 13th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Not gonna happen long as they’re losing. Plain and simple.
Then again, with the NFL and Alphonse anything can happen…I hear Canada wants in real bad…
February 13th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Oh snap,..all I hears here is crap. Who said that.
February 13th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Oh snap!!!…winnin aint got nuttin do do wit a new crib,..bengals gottta new one,..and dat was when dey was awful!!!…anyways,..i like the place da way it is now,..no need for new house,..i likes it jus da way it is. who said that.
February 13th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Whats da hells wrong wit da coliseum anyways???????????????????????…place is coo,..i likes it…oh snap, it was jus remodeled recently mang!!!!…who said that.
February 13th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
I’m sure a new stadium would host a super bowl and bring in revenue. A stadium would bring new jobs and more development to the area. Its a win win for the R.aiders and Niners
February 13th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
# Mistabr0wn Says:
February 13th, 2010 at 11:14 am
In the dictionary they should a picture of you with your head in your anus. Maybe i’ll email Websters and give them a holla!
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Does anyone have any idea what this guy is trying to say here? And isn’t he the one that says no one can understand Jamarcus?
February 13th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
It’s not abt Al Davis. It’s about two aging stadiums. Both the 49ers and the Raiders need new stadium. It’s abt the bay, legacy of two of thr best franchises in football. If both teams team up in their efforts, they can get a state of the art stadium for fair price.
February 13th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
No needs fo a new house,…coliseum fine da way it iz….oh snap.
February 13th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Hey I was watching the Raider Steeler game from last year and out of the context of being completly frustrated by another 11 loss season, I saw some pretty good stuff from the youngsters. Tyvon Branch, schillins, Higgins, Gradkowski, I saw a little of what Cable was talking about when he said they were close all year. The o line needs serious upgrade and so do the line backers but if those areas were addressed sufficiently this off season, I could see the Raiders making a playoff push with some of the skill players they have right now.
February 13th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
And louis Murphy.
February 13th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
hopefully the staff we have now can get them to turn the corner
February 13th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Oh snap!….
February 13th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
I have a source that says the zone blocking scheme has been thrown out the window.
February 13th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
And cable is the coach
February 13th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
This team is going to ride on the backs of the RBs next year.
February 13th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
ANd J Russ isn’t assured anything
February 13th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
We need consistency at the QB pos before we will challenge for anything. Whether that’s Jruss or Gradkowski.
February 13th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Canadian Mining consortiums, after being handed 50 cents per acre extraction rights on precious metal lands owned by YOU THE PEOPLE, have plenty of cash to spread around.
Chevron, just up the street in Richmond or down the road in San Ramon, after recording record profits for any corporation at any time in the past few years could lend a few bucks. (they are also the largest land-holding entity of California farmlands, subsidized by YOU THE PEOPLE.)
Stewart Resnick, who has scammed the people of California for billions of dollars with his water holding and delivery schemes of YOUR STATE’S WATER SUPPLIES, has plenty of extra bucks to give for a stadium.
There is plenty of money in this Shyteforsaken world to build anything anyone wants. If they want to.
February 13th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Tom Cable! Louis Murphy! King Elexis I! Where do I sign up? The sky’s the limit with that trio!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 13th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
trade DMc for Fargas! I mean trade trade f*ck)ng Fargas for 50 cents an acre and throw in DMc. I mean trade DMc for an acre/foot of water along with Fargas. I mean trade DMc to Hot Springs, South Dakota for some mineral water and a mammoth tusk. And let fuching Fargas name a concession stand at the new stadium Huggy Bear’s Crash Test Dummy Hot Dog Stand.
there. that oughtta do it. line up the investors pronto!
February 13th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Lonertree,..we donts needs a new house!!!!….oh snap da coliseum is fuggin fine!!!!…its football mang!…who cares if deres a crack here or dere…who said that.
February 13th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
I hope the Raiders resign Gradkowski to a cap friendly deal. Then they should have a fair and open competition in camp. Grads is a gamer. He’s fiery,scrappy, mobile, and completed a high % of his passes in college. He provided the offense a spark when he started last year. If he wins out, at best, maybe the raiders have found the second coming of Rich Gannon. Even if he loses out , the raiders still have a backup they have confidence in, who could step in due to injury or nescesity.
However, if JaMarcus comes into camp in shape, dedicated, and ready to study, and work hard he should win the job easily.
February 13th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Jes followin’ the thread Biz Markie. Jes Figgerin’ what ol’ JerryMc is gettin’ at.
February 13th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
If it was built for both the Raiders and the 49ers I think they might find a way. The location is great and if anything gets done for either the 49ers or the Raiders, that package looks be be the way to go for both Teams.
I know I am way ahead of myself but if they do ever build a new one. I hope they make them keep the Endzones like they are. With the people almost sitting in the endzone and with the low wall. Of all other places to play Oakland is the only place to have the Fans so close to the action like that.
Both Teams need to look into this because the Raiders or the 49ers will not get a new place to play any other way.
February 13th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
The Raiders need a new stadium. Every team needs a shiny new stadium. Hell, even the Bengals have shiny new Paul Brown stadium. Almost all the old haunts are gone. Three Rivers, RFK,Mile High. However, before that old stadium is torn down I need to make at least one visit. See the Bay area, tour Alcatrazz, Red Woods, the whole deal. That would be my personal pilgrimage to mecca. That place is hallowed ground. Jack Tatum lurked there. Lester hayes patrolled that field.
I remember when I was a kid, before everything was over saturated with BSPN highlights 24 hours a day, Often the only Raiders I got to see was staying up past my bedtime to hear Howard Cosell do MNF halftime highlights. God, how I loved the way he would say “We go now to THE OAKLAND-ALAMEDA COUNTY COLISEUM.”
February 13th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
Any body out there? Hello….
February 13th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Lone tree couldnt agree with you more about the trio but watch some of those games last year. You might be surprised by the dimonds in the rough. And I do mean rough
February 13th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
AS I write I can already recognize the off season delusion I con myself into each of the past seven years.
February 13th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
didn’t know the frowny face would look as lame as it does. Sorry.
February 13th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Here is a problem for JR, even if he is on top shape n ready to revive his career, one bad game n the boos will follow. He needs to play smart n win back the fans only way to do it is if he begins winning the first 3 games. A 0-3 record will be the end of his career.
February 13th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Im hear to tell yaz,…DA RAIDUHS DO NOT NEED A NEW HOUSE!!!!!!!…..its coo jus da way it iz. oh snap,..ya heard me?
February 13th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Raider Guy,
I feel your pain/Delusion. Hell, I thought Art Shell II was going to bring back some Raider toughness.LOL.
February 13th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
Buckeye, I was all fired up to get a 78 jersey that year.
February 13th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
Remember we were looking for a disciplinarian that year?
February 13th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
One of our wins came with about 78 yards of offense, against the steelers!
February 13th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
4eve,
You’re right. Russell has a hole he has to dig himself out of. First he has to win back the trust/confidence of his teammates. Hopefully the wins will follow. If they get off to a slow start, the fans will boo the shyt out of him. If they can win, most of the fans will get back on board. A fast start this year is critical.
February 13th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
A fast start every year is critical. How sweet was it to watch Denver COMPLETELY collapse at the end?
February 13th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Worse than the mike white 8-2 turn to 8-8…so that is something…I guess. If we aren’t going to do it I can celebrate the collapse of others. San Diego…
February 13th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
# Plunketthead Says:
February 13th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Grads is young, he is deadly accurate, and he will outwork anyone.
I think he will continue to improve.
^^^^^^^^
Yep! I agree…..Grads is starting to peak and I think he still has upside to improve. He proved he can play last year and he has great work ethic. Having great work ethic is half the battle when being a QB in the NFL.
It’s good to hear Juggs Russell supposedly working out in Zona. That’s a good start IF true.
He still has a long ways to PROVE he is better than Grads as the starter at QB for the Raiders though.
Grads has a significant head start on him. I think Grads can potentially turn into the next Jeff Garcia with the same style of play. Grads is more gritty though.
February 13th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
NO ONE is going to partner up with Al.
He’s the kiss of death.
Darth Depth’s of Despair..
AnalporeAl would demand too much control for the Niners to go through with it, and Alameda County views Al as a back stabbing snake.
After Al departs…maybe.
but now? Old ornery stubborn codgers don’t make good partners, in any sense.
February 13th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
RICHOCHET…Imtellin yaz all…ya heard me?…da raiduhs DO NOT neeeds a new house,..da coliseum is off the hook coo,…no new cribs,..never!!!…dont need dat. ya hear?…oh snap.
February 13th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
da 9rz mooovin to santa clara any ways…day gone.
February 13th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
shoot mang, da raiduh jus remodeled dat house 15 years ago mang!…why da fug we needs a new place fors anywayzzzz?????…someone tells me dat puleeeeze?. oh snap.
February 13th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Raider Guy,
I remember that game well. The Raider D took 2 to the house. Nnamdi, and Chris Carr I believe. Watched the game with a couple of friends who are Steeler fans. One dude’s pretty cool, but a little obnoxious. It was fun to shut him up for awhile.
February 13th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Sharing a stadium with the niners would be odd. But, maybe that’s the reality of the economic situation. I guess the Jets and Giants made it work for all these years.
February 13th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
IMO…. build a new stadium in Las Vegas, Nevada!!
February 13th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Move ‘em to London!
February 13th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Every owner in every sport claims they need a new stadium for revenue, and competitive purposes. And it’s a status symbol, nobody wants their team to play in an antiquated dump. Look at Jone’s new Dallas palace, it’s a monument to his ego. Everything is bigger in Texas. As a fan, I don’t know. I’ve been to the new Cleveland Browns stadium. It’s nice and clean. The restrooms and concessions have been greatly improved.
Every year for about six years I would go up to a Brown’s game with my family. I kind of preferred old Cleveland Municipal stadium. That place was a Shyt hole. No matter where you sat your view was obstructed by a pole. The pipes leaked, the bathrooms were nasty, but that old dump had personality and history. The new stadium just isn’t the same.
February 13th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
I remember the 8-2 turning into 8-8 year. That 11th game was against the Cowboys. Vince Evans through a deep out pick to Deion Sanders, who promptly turned inward on the field and held the ball up high in the air to mock Evans as he began his return of the TD. Funny shiat. Except I hate the Cowboys and Deion.
February 13th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
NO NEW STADIUM EVER DAMMIT!!! oh snap….we dont needs one. ya heard me?
February 13th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
The first year I went with them was 1990. Saw Cleveland play the Bills. Buffalo came in and waxed em. 42-0. The Browns coach Bud Carson was fired the next day. Froze my Azz off. Unfortunately I would find out just how good that Bills team was, when they met my Raiders in the AFC championship game later that year. Ugh.
February 13th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
Goodnight Raider Nation.
February 13th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Oh snap,…if Ize hear any mo new stadium crap…no mo!!!…we dont needs it…ya heard me?
February 13th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
Biz Markie
Where do u live bro? We need a new stadium it would generate huge income to Oakland residents. It will be an entertaining center piece for any football like the BCS, SB but also tennis, world cup soccer, concerts, boxing, etc. The only thing popping in offseason is some concerts, the bay is big market a big stadium will attract major events, that means more jobs. R u from da bay?
February 13th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
“do i even have a life lol?”
At least you’re not on here 24/7 like a couple people who talk nothing else but how the Raiders suck and they’ll never be good again, and how Al Davis is the devil.
Then they talk about how insignificant the Raiders are yet all THEY do is talk about them. Talk about someone who needs a life…You’ll be fine.
February 13th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
“oh snap”
__________________________
I don’t get it,is that supposed to be funny?
What, did you try this routine on other blogs and just decided to give it a go here? It’s lame.
Oh, I get it you’re trying to be an irritating little dweeb and you somehow think it’s funny….hahahahahaha, I get it now. Good stuff. Oh snap..hahahahahahaha, I love it.
February 13th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
ya i from heres mang, the house is coo enough, no needs for a new crib,…so stfu bout a new stadium,..ya heard me? oh snap.
February 13th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
johnny you be illin mang. ya heard me?…oh snap.
February 13th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
Oh snap guess what I saw…johnnyg is a goofball. lol
February 14th, 2010 at 12:38 am
“Taxpayers still have $150 million to go to cover Coliseum upgrades from the deal that brought the Raiders back to Oakland 15 years ago. They’ve had three winning seasons during that span, are currently on a string of seven consecutive blackouts and even their own fans are paying for billboards calling for Al Davis to surrender football decisions to a general manager.”
^^^^^^^^^
Finally Jerry. You finally state the reality of the situation of this franchise.
Maybe Priesst and the other lost Al Davis worshippers will finally wake up from their demon possesion?
Naaahhhh…of course not. Al Davis can do no wrong to his demon possessed and obsessed followers. LOL
February 14th, 2010 at 7:02 am
Good Morning and Happy Valentine’s Day to the a.m. crew!!
February 14th, 2010 at 7:09 am
Plunketthead Says:
February 13th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Grads is young, he is deadly accurate, and he will outwork anyone.
I think he will continue to improve
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I feel like a proud parent when I see comments like this.
I think I have Plunkett, DKnight007, and 4eva in my corner on Bruce.
I feel like the Joel Osteen of Grads supporters. Just trying to get guys to believe.
February 14th, 2010 at 7:14 am
Good morning R8eray!!!
February 14th, 2010 at 7:24 am
Here’s hoping they do get a shared stadium. Probably the only way to get one done anytime soon for both teams, and if in Oakland, would be a great thing for the city, creating jobs for the construction as well as doubling the gameday jobs as well.
Maybe Meg Whittman can make it happen!!!
February 14th, 2010 at 8:10 am
Trade DMAC for Joel Osteen!
February 14th, 2010 at 8:16 am
It was rag on Kowski night and BHP regurgetated this pile of steaming tripe
“gradkowski can’t carry Russell jock.”
So I had to stick up for the best QB on the team last year.
February 14th, 2010 at 8:20 am
I like our “old” stadium!
February 14th, 2010 at 8:20 am
Make DMAC carry JR’s jock untill he gets traded for a cup of laundry soap.
If Vegas is a proud papa Bo should be sky high with proudness after what he started.
February 14th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Bruce was a 6th RD pick who didn’t do much at TB and Cleveland, but you guys think he is the next gannon.
Wake up! GarbageKowski is a backup at best.
February 14th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Trade DMAC for a Vermont teddy bear
February 14th, 2010 at 8:37 am
We need to see if JR can be slaveged, or we need another QB, but GarbageKowski shouldn’t be the starter. We need people with talent, and not just great work ethic.
February 14th, 2010 at 8:38 am
looks here,..no new stadium needed,…yo mo fo`s heard me?….da coliseum is the shyt,..hells no to a bew house, weee dont needs one,..oh snap, guess what i saw,..no new stadium for y`all.
February 14th, 2010 at 8:41 am
I dont think he is the second coming of Rich.
I think he is the best QB on the team.
If JR quits partying, works out all summer, studies film and wins the starting QB job, more power to him.
Thats what I want to happen.
February 14th, 2010 at 8:41 am
I’m not ready to give up on DMC & JR, and for what?’
A 30 year old RB with no vision, or a 6′0 QB with a noodle arm!!
We can’t develop talent.
February 14th, 2010 at 8:41 am
i likes it da ways it is…we dont need a fancy shiony house…its football mang…screw dat new stadium horsey shyt…no new stadium needed…i likes it jus da way it is!…ya heard?…oh snap, guess what i saw…the coliseums awesome, dats all.
February 14th, 2010 at 8:42 am
Who do you suggest we get to play QB this year
February 14th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Plunk,
Only guy drafted in the 1st RD that we developed in the last 10 years was Nnamdi, and he credits that to R Woodson.
We need to develop our 1st RD picks faster and better.
February 14th, 2010 at 8:49 am
I make jokes now and then but I want JR, DMAC and DHB to become great players for the Raiders.
I actually still have high hopes for the trio.
Less so for JR because I think he has problems outside of the game
February 14th, 2010 at 8:50 am
Oh snap guess what i saw…jamarcus russell dont know how to play football.
February 14th, 2010 at 8:51 am
This organization is not buit to develop players
February 14th, 2010 at 8:54 am
The franchise does not have an organizational structure capable of building anything but a losing team.
February 14th, 2010 at 8:54 am
It all starts at the top
February 14th, 2010 at 8:56 am
JR killed us last year.
If he had showed improvement from the year before, the entire team would have looked and played better.
That includes DMAC & DHB
February 14th, 2010 at 8:59 am
JR= Oversized garbage can, or a dumpster…
February 14th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Plunk,
I like J Campbell, and I’m not sold on DHB.
February 14th, 2010 at 9:00 am
JR < high school QB
February 14th, 2010 at 9:01 am
The kid from kentucky andre woodson would be nice, I also like jason campbell. He has gone thru several OCO’s at wash and still makes good decisions with the ball, and is not overweight.
February 14th, 2010 at 9:02 am
O, what is up Bro? What does your draft board look like?
February 14th, 2010 at 9:07 am
Thec,
I’m still at O Mock Draft 5.5:
1- LB McClain or Spoon
2- OT T Williams if available, or Kyle Calloway.
3- DT Cam Thomas
3- DE Austen Lane
4- LB Micah Johnson (steal)
5- CB Walter Thurmond (steal)
5- KR/PR Leroy Vann (steal, 11 TDs returned in 2 years)
February 14th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Thec,
Yes sir!!! The kid from KY is Solid, buy needs time to develop. He needs a coach, and a team with talent at that position. He needs a few years IMHO
February 14th, 2010 at 9:10 am
BRL has had a much better chance han woodson. BRL was given the starting job, and was ill prepared.
woodson> brl…
February 14th, 2010 at 9:13 am
oh snap, guess what i saw, jamarcus sucks, dats all.
February 14th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Solid draft O, you think johnson goes thst far down? If he is around he would be a steal if he is healthy enough. That pick reminds me of the MBush pick. Leroy Vann would also be a steal if he last that long….
Woodson in not even in the league he was cut by wash.
We could get him for a song and dance, but your right he may need some development, so that alone would eliminate him because we do not develop players.
February 14th, 2010 at 9:15 am
I like Woodson.
We can’t make it happen if Campbell signs cheap.
1- J Campbell
2- JR/ Woodson
February 14th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Last years draft should have been MLB, oline, dline not in any particular order, not a DHB, what a wated pick that was.
So O, you picking up oline help in FA?
February 14th, 2010 at 9:18 am
woodson wont be in silver and black, i do like csmpbell much better than brl though. If he does come on the market we should make a run if the prie is right. then we could cut brl….
February 14th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Oh snap,..guess what i saw,..some fool talkin bout campbell,..dats all,..oh lordie lordie,..oh snap…deez fans in dis place are whack!…who said that?
February 14th, 2010 at 9:19 am
oh snap, whos dis brl cat?
February 14th, 2010 at 9:20 am
Can*
I don’t know if they will drop that much, but Players fall due to injury and attitude problems. Micah and Walter are hurt, and walter didn’t play most of last season. Vann is too small for most teams, but can be a solid PR/KR but nothing else. He is listed at CB, but hejust learned the position past year.
I think they will drop.
February 14th, 2010 at 9:21 am
Raiders O,..does dat O stand for, Oh snap, Im retodded!!! ?
February 14th, 2010 at 9:22 am
So O has Mr. Davis invited you to the war room yet?
February 14th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Thec,
Exactly.
Our Offense is young and needs some good vet to help develop the young talent we have.
I say we should Cut WR Walker and DT Warren, and sign the best G & C in FA. We pay warren and Walker 11 mil this year, and the best 2 OL in FA should cost less than that.
Draft Defense and RT, and help the offense with FA.
February 14th, 2010 at 9:26 am
with what we pay we should be able to afford some good FA’s. We may need to get a LG as I am not sure if gallery will be coming back.
February 14th, 2010 at 9:26 am
why was walker on the team this year anyway? He was healthy.
February 14th, 2010 at 9:27 am
Thec,
He needs to be kidnapped a week before the draft, and released after the 1st day ends.
The old batard does well in the 2nd day:
Bush, Branch, and Murphy.
February 14th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Plunketthead Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 8:56 am
JR killed us last year.
If he had showed improvement from the year before, the entire team would have looked and played better.
That includes DMAC & DHB
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If we would have got the 2008 version of Jamarcus, we might have been a .500 team.
Instead we got the beer-bellied, mohawked version and his 3 TD’s and 17 turnovers.
February 14th, 2010 at 9:30 am
lol…. Mr. Davis is mobster, wont take to kindly to being napped…. heads would roll.
February 14th, 2010 at 9:31 am
I am out guys, going to go do something that BRL is not used to and thats workout…
1 NATION…
February 14th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Walker, Hall, Warren, TK, and G Wilson may have cost us more than we think. We need to use this uncapped year to release all the bad contracts.
February 14th, 2010 at 9:35 am
Later Thec. Enjoy the nice day bro.
February 14th, 2010 at 10:30 am
oh snap. biz markie sure knows how to brutally murder the english language. oh snap, what a retard. tel mes suttin me frend. where doos uuus learns hows to speaks likes dat dawg. try mixing in a little cat in the hat to help with your reading and spelling. your parents must be proud to have a son like you. oh snap
February 14th, 2010 at 10:34 am
oh snap. i’s hav troubles comunicating. oh snap. dis is depressin. oh snaap, did i rite dat? oh snap i’s sound stupit. oh snap der i go again soundin like a retart. oh snap i’s cant spel a word. oh snap, i’s think i’s snapped. oh snap
February 14th, 2010 at 10:58 am
oh snap. itz valentiMz day. gottah gets my biotch suttin. yo mang. u’s guyz gots any ideas? oh snap. dis is too much. i’s jus dunno wat 2 do. maybe i’s buyz myself a muzzle. dat mak da biotch hapy. oh snap, whyz i keep sayin oh snap. jus mus be’s the meds wearin off. oh snap wuts rong wit me? dey keep telin me i’s a retart. oh snap, i no down wit dat. oh snap u’s must take me fo who i iz. oh snap
February 14th, 2010 at 10:59 am
dude is certainly giving a new meaning to the term “in your own words”. he is certainly using his own words there. or is it wordz???? oh snap
February 14th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Just remember theres a few trolls here with multiple monikers. Theres a Raider hater or two. Theres a Al hater or two. Theres a prankster or two and theres just your garden variety hater or two.
Jerry & Company have been troll central since this blog blew up about three years ago with unregged, anything goes mods.
February 14th, 2010 at 11:02 am
I can still “see” Oakglen and many others screaming
IGNORE THE TROLLS
DAMMIT IGNORE THEM AND THEY WILL GO AWAY
while they themselves did typebattle with them 24/7
February 14th, 2010 at 11:07 am
iz dis how it iz. i beez talkin to myself. oh snap. yo mang where my dawgs at. dis aint da place to beez arguing. dis iz vday. u felas aint coo like me. ya heard? u aint down wit it. oh snap guess what i saw. a dycshunary. mabe i’s tries to reedz dis ting. mabe i’s learnz suttin. u heard me? oh snap. oh snap. my mutha bot me suttin. uuus felas iz goin 2 beez gelus. she bot me hookd on fonics. oh snap. hooked on phonics worked for me. oh snap
February 14th, 2010 at 11:19 am
# Raider O Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Plunk,
I like J Campbell, and I’m not sold on DHB.
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DHB??
His own mother sold his jersey…for $1.37.
DHB sucked in college…oh…but when he sucked? HE WAS FAST.
In the bigs? Yep, lol…fast..and still sucks.
February 14th, 2010 at 11:21 am
# Plunketthead Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 11:02 am
I can still “see” Oakglen and many others screaming
IGNORE THE TROLLS
DAMMIT IGNORE THEM AND THEY WILL GO AWAY
while they themselves did typebattle with them 24/7
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Yeah..funny..and pathetic.
Oakglenn: “IGNORE SO AND SO”…where he then comments on “so and so” in 10 of his next 20 posts.
In other words, “so and so” owns his sorryass and he’s bowing in respect…just too stupid to realize he’s proving to one and all he’s the board beyotch….
right SeyMoronGlen?
February 14th, 2010 at 11:24 am
# Plunketthead Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 8:49 am
I make jokes now and then but I want JR, DMAC and DHB to become great players for the Raiders.
I actually still have high hopes for the trio.
Less so for JR because I think he has problems outside of the game
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Kind of on the same vein as having high hopes the country solves all of it’s problems…by Tuesday?
Would be nice..but I would bet the under on any of the above.
February 14th, 2010 at 11:29 am
New Englandraider,
Thanks for the laugh man. No offense Biz. To each his own, I guess. But that was some funny shyt.
February 14th, 2010 at 11:38 am
If I were the city of Oakland, SF, or any bay area government entity I wouldn’t give this team anything until and unless Davis is out of the picture. This would be a perfect scenario for some local hotshots to plot a coup–i.e., a potful of money for a new stadium in return for new ownership.
February 14th, 2010 at 11:40 am
oh snap. iz guts mees a phan. oh snap. uuus mo fo’s are dun now. dats all i needz. suttin to boost my egow. oh snap. i’s iz duh mang now. yo mang, listen to razor ramon chico. ima carve u up. oh snap. u heard me? mabe biz is juhmarcis incognito. oh snap, i figyered it owt. biz markie is jamarcus russell. jamarcus russell is biz. finkel is einhorn. einhorn is finkel. oh snap. oh snap ooohhhhhhhhh fugggggginn snaaaaappppppppp. im a jeanyus
February 14th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Plunketthead…..
I’m STILL laughing from that link you posted yesterday a.m. funny schyet!
Thanx….
February 14th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Richochet Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 11:19 am
# Raider O Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Plunk,
I like J Campbell, and I’m not sold on DHB.
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DHB??
His own mother sold his jersey…for $1.37.
DHB sucked in college…oh…but when he sucked? HE WAS FAST.
In the bigs? Yep, lol…fast..and still sucks.
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Have to admit, he looked worse than any PRO wide out I’ve seen in a long time on several plays.
February 14th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Some things don’t add up.
Unless their has been contract bidding going on, no way the city just awards this contract to CSL
For starters, State law says over 5 grand, has to be bids, which prevents ‘you’s my buddy, here’s a cushy contract’ situations.
The city also has rules requiring first going within the city to award public monies, before paying out elsewhere.
I’m going to make it easy, and it’s only going to cost the city $10.00.
Does Oakslum need a new stadium? Survey says??? YES
Do the residents of Oakland and Alameda county want to pay a single penny MORE towards anything associated with the Raiders? Survey says???? HELL NO.
Will the Raiders put up any of their “monies” as other organizations have??? Survey says???? WHAT MONIES?
Will anyone, Niners or otherwise, in any way shape or form, want anything to do with Al “I am a slimeball, backstabbing, two-faced snake, who has been proven to screw over partners, cities, and fans” Davis???
Survey says??? WHEN HE’S 6 FEET UNDER, MAYBE.
See?
Now..how hard was that?
And all it cost them was $10.00
February 14th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Richochet Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 11:19 am
# Raider O Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Plunk,
I like J Campbell, and I’m not sold on DHB.
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DHB??
His own mother sold his jersey…for $1.37.
DHB sucked in college…oh…but when he sucked? HE WAS FAST.
In the bigs? Yep, lol…fast..and still sucks.
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Have to admit, he looked worse than any PRO wide out I’ve seen in a long time on several plays.
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Renaldo Nehemiah, Part II
Nehemiah was fastest man ‘On the Planet’..and Niners said ‘HEY?? He’ll spread the field. He’ll create this great deep threat. They’ll have to double cover him..he’s so fast.”
Except…he couldn’t catch the ball. Heard “footsteps” as the ball was in the air, and tightened up like a drum.
Like Nehemiah, BEY is a converted track star, who never learned, at an early age, to get over the fear of taking a vicious hit.
February 14th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Richochet Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 11:21 am
# Plunketthead Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 11:02 am
I can still “see” Oakglen and many others screaming
IGNORE THE TROLLS
DAMMIT IGNORE THEM AND THEY WILL GO AWAY
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HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Once again, all you have to do is mention the word troll and then within seconds who comes “trolling” by? The psychopathic Troll. Here is the clinical definition:
The Pyschopathic Troll
The Psychopathic Troll is motivated to participate in an internet forum by psychotic delusions or compulsions, or by a neurotic seeking of false self-esteem. The postings of a psychotic troll are unlikely to make any recognizable sense at all. The neurotic troll either seeks to obtain false self esteem by manipulating the reactions of others, or by demonstrating his “power” to destroy what others enjoy. The nuerotic troll is often manipulative enough to make it past the initial moderation.
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Kind of fits our friendly troll to a T doesn’t it? Sucks to be the lowest form of life doesn’t it richy?
February 14th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
I mean it is Valentines Day. What better way to prove your manhood than to be “trolling” on the internet? Right Richy? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
February 14th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
132. Nailed it Seymour
February 14th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
crazy people don’t know they’re crazy…
February 14th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Governmnet should NEVER fund sports venues. It is NOT a proper function of government to subsidize these highly profitable busiensses (or any businesses for that matter). If the Raiders want a stadium, they should raise private capital and do it. If private investors don’t think it is a good investment, why would we saddle taxpayers with it???
February 14th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
my denver brudduh, ize told y`aldat sinse yesterdy…NO NEW HOUSE NEEDED MANG!!!…oh snap, y`alls fulls of crap!!…i like da coliseums,..who said that…
February 14th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Richochet Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 11:21 am
# Plunketthead Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 11:02 am
I can still “see” Oakglen and many others screaming
IGNORE THE TROLLS
DAMMIT IGNORE THEM AND THEY WILL GO AWAY
===============================================
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Once again, all you have to do is mention the word troll and then within seconds who comes “trolling” by? The psychopathic Troll. Here is the clinical definition:
The Pyschopathic Troll
The Psychopathic Troll is motivated to participate in an internet forum by psychotic delusions or compulsions, or by a neurotic seeking of false self-esteem. The postings of a psychotic troll are unlikely to make any recognizable sense at all. The neurotic troll either seeks to obtain false self esteem by manipulating the reactions of others, or by demonstrating his “power” to destroy what others enjoy. The nuerotic troll is often manipulative enough to make it past the initial moderation.
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Kind of fits our friendly troll to a T doesn’t it? Sucks to be the lowest form of life doesn’t it richy?
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LMFAO..look at you…WITHIN MINUTES OF ME POSTING, YOUR SORRY ASS IS RUSHING TO POST TO ME.
Seriously, OakCoward..how freaking pathetic are you?
What?
“coincidence”?? HELL NO..worm..you post nothing…then…MINUTES AFTER I POST there you are?
You’re a sad little man, aren’t you? lol…like a little flea..rushing to change names while refreshing the page..ALL DAY LONG..just waiting for me.
Hey, moron, give us a laugh…tell everyone again why you got busted by the mod’s with over a dozen handles linked to your IP…c’mon, Oakglen..it’s not THAT embarrassing, is it?
February 14th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
I mean it is Valentines Day. What better way to prove your manhood than to be “trolling” on the internet? Right Richy? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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AGAIN…ARE YOU HONESTLY THIS FREAKING STUPID?
Dude..you’re like a punching bag…YOU JUST COMMENT ABOUT ME POSTING ON VALENTINE’S DAY…while YOU aren’t just posting, but proved you’re sitting there, reading, just waiting..while rushing like a little girl to post to me, lol.
Almost as funny as you showing up ON A FRIDAY NIGHT, LATE, saying “You’re online on a Friday night..what? No date?”..where I laughed at YOU BEING ONLINE AT THE SAME TIME..
Remember your complete head up ass answer?
Sure you do…was a classic CRAPPING ON YOUR OWN SHOE reply..
Oakglen: “Oh..uh..actually..I’m with a really hot babe”
After I laughed my ASS OFF ON THAT REPLY, you then rushed to state ‘Oh..but I pushed her away to come post to you”.
Classic idiot Oakglen being too stupid to not stay out of his own way.
February 14th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
132. Nailed it Seymour
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Wonderful.
the board eunuch’s bonding.
Don’t you have a crying towel waiting for you, fool?
You gotten over that total meltdown yet?
“cable ISN’T BEING FAIR…STOP PICKING ON JABLUBERBUTT…that’s NOT FAIR.”
Like a couple of little girls
February 14th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
BAN THE TROLLS! Richochet is a troll.
February 14th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
why b i t c h e z always so coo koo on vday ?
February 14th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
jo mang. wat up wit uuus fellas? iz me biz. yo peep dis. i bot me chyk dat king syze cit cat an i’s had a roze lef from the glass toob i bot las time i hit da pype. u hear me? yo can uuus believe dat bich sayd dat not good enuff fo ha. wuta im sposed to do? u hear me? oh snap. all dat i gut wuz a kard dat i’s cant reed. wize dis chyk so un stupit. oh snap. u hear me? we dont need a new house. oh snap. jo mang. u hear me? i gutz to bee goin. uuus kats hava grate nite cuz i’s no i’s iz. i promiss to bust owt da hookd on fonics mom gut me four vday. 2morrow i’s wil no hows to spel an rite lyke a normul humun. by
February 14th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
oh snap, I tink some foo up in heres makin fun of me mang,…oh snap,…ya heard?…dat dude, oooooowwwwwiiiiiii,…he talk like me, dats coo though,..we can roll like dat vato loco,…i can rolls a blunt, we share it holmes,…ya heard?…peace.
February 14th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Hey Jerry,can you deliver a post that will shut the MORONS UP,maybe a FOOTBALL post so we can get on with the RAIDERS Off Season! oh snap is 3rd grade at worst,garbage at best!
February 14th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
vato loco huh? look at the way you speak, or type or whatever one wishes to call it. the only intelligent thing you’ve said is that you’ll share your blunt with me. now that i respect. never made an enemy out of smoking a blunt. just think your way of communicating is a little bit fired up. that doesn’t sound cool at all. makes you sound like your all messed up on norco or something.
February 14th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
ooops i almost forgot
FALSE START #74 OFFENSE 5 YARD PENALTY, REPEAT 3RD DOWN
February 14th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Oh snap,..we on for da blunt S.A….meets at da giants home opener,…blunts, oh snap and some cognac,..oooohhhhiiiiiiiiiii…who said that?
February 14th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
giants? as is the sf giants? the GNATS. dude im on the east coast bre. and here is the kicker, im a dodger fan
February 14th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
sry 4got the oh snap… OH SNAP
February 14th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Oh snap….vatos locos forever!!
February 14th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
And with that being said…Good Night Raider Nation!
February 14th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Asta Manana!!
February 14th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
oh snap,..dodgers?….who said that?
February 15th, 2010 at 12:05 am
SD CHARGERS FO LIFE BABY………..YEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHH
February 15th, 2010 at 12:16 am
NO WONDER NOBODY LIKES THE RAIDERS…THEY SUCK AS MUCH AS THIS BLOG DOES…DOES STAPLES CARRY A “THAT WAS BORING BUTTON”???IF NOT THEY NEED TO MAKE ONE FOR THIS BLOG AND A “WE SUCK” BUTTON FOR THE RAIDERS… ANY QUESTIONS? HIT ME UP…
LOVE ALWAYS YOUR ADORING CHARGER FAN
February 15th, 2010 at 12:35 am
Ricochet is an awesome poster/contributor imo.
His points are always valid and is refreshing having truth speakers when a lot of others are ostriches or spruiking delusions.
February 15th, 2010 at 3:45 am
February 15th, 2010 at 5:33 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FANS,THE ONLY NATION 4EVA….
February 15th, 2010 at 5:39 am
kinda quiet so ar Dirt-Lot
February 15th, 2010 at 5:40 am
Another team get off the dreaded NO SUPERBOWLS list of course the mighty SD Chargers still sit on that loser list congrats SD those AFC WEST CHAMPIONS banners must be much better than any SB TROPHY.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 15th, 2010 at 5:49 am
FUNNY NOMOREFARGAS,THE WAY SAN DIEGO ACTS LIKE THEY ARE THE PITTBURG STEELERS.NO LOMBARDI’S,WENT TO BIG GAME 1 TIME AND GOT BOOT-STOMP’D,BUT THAT IS A GREAT LEGACY 4 A CHARGER FAN I GUESS..
February 15th, 2010 at 5:55 am
So have we all agreed that OL is the pick at 8?
Or is it MLB?
February 15th, 2010 at 5:58 am
yes
February 15th, 2010 at 6:01 am
O-LINE..
February 15th, 2010 at 6:09 am
jhill Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 5:55 am
So have we all agreed that OL is the pick at 8?
Or is it MLB?
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I think that is it, with the slight chance of a D-lineman.
I’m still sticking on McClain. We aren’t going to fix our entire Run D and O-line in one year, so it is a 2-3 year project.
McClain, or even Spikes for that matter, is the type of MLB we need for years to come.
February 15th, 2010 at 6:11 am
My friend from the Bay said the local media last week was hearing that Jamarcus was in Miami last week, and Jamie Foxx went on a Miami radio-station promoting his movie Valentine’s Day and somehow started taking shots at Jamarcus Russell.
Said he saw him out at 3am and that he has “child-bearing hips”.
Can’t find a link to support it. Anyone else hear this?
February 15th, 2010 at 6:15 am
So have we all agreed that OL is the pick at 8?
Or is it MLB?
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fastest DB at the combine
February 15th, 2010 at 6:15 am
THAT IS THE THE THING VEGAS,IT TAKES LINEMAN AWHILE TO LEARN 2 WORK TOGETHER,McCLAIN WILL BE A GOOD ONE, A HARD CHOICE IMO.GOOD MORNING BTW.
February 15th, 2010 at 6:17 am
Trade DMAC for Glenn Dorsey!
http://www.freep.com/article/20100214/SPORTS01/2140493/?imw=Y
February 15th, 2010 at 6:17 am
I’m sure you would have seen that posted in here if anyone heard anything even remotely close to that.
The Super Bowl was in Miami last week, right? I can see him there all day long.
February 15th, 2010 at 6:18 am
Thats what I think Dirt-Lot…. a defensive can come in and contribute easier than an O-line guy,imo.Cable seems 2 like O-linemen with “some” experience
February 15th, 2010 at 6:19 am
I AM SURE MR. RUSSELL WAS CONTEMPLATING WAY’S 2 MAKE HIS GAME BETTER, WHILE ON THE STREET’S AT 3AM..
February 15th, 2010 at 6:20 am
why sure!
February 15th, 2010 at 6:21 am
Glenn Dorsey is available, I’m reading.
One of our 3rd rounders and, uh, Ricky Brown and Cooper Carlisle get it done?
February 15th, 2010 at 6:23 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 6:19 am
I AM SURE MR. RUSSELL WAS CONTEMPLATING WAY’S 2 MAKE HIS GAME BETTER, WHILE ON THE STREET’S AT 3AM..
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He was trying to catch up with Brees for some pointers while at the same time recruiting Jamal Brown to come block for him!
February 15th, 2010 at 6:23 am
So I googled it a million different ways, and this is about I could come up with. I guess it is a twitter page of sorts, and if you scroll down the other links at the bottom, two guys mention Jamie Foxx clowning Jamarcus.
Not real credible, I wonder if this where the “media” got it’s scoop from, lol.
http://feeltiptop.com/Jamarcus+Russell/
February 15th, 2010 at 6:24 am
fastest DB at the combine
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At 8?
February 15th, 2010 at 6:25 am
WAIT…MAYBE RUSSELL CAN BE CONVERTED TO OFF-TACKLE..
February 15th, 2010 at 6:26 am
Eugene & Routt are free agents.
Bowie is now with the Browns.
Holland & Boyd = trash
Huff is in the final year of his contract. due $5+ million with Mike Mitchell waiting in the wings
Nnamdi has a contract option in 2011 that would pay him Brees/Manning money (most likely 20-25 million per season)
Chris Johnson will turn 31 in September.
February 15th, 2010 at 6:27 am
8th pick = Eric Berry or Joe Haden
February 15th, 2010 at 6:29 am
Vegas … LMFAO man.
You are REEEEEE-CHING!
For the sake of bailing Jerry out on topics for this blog, let’s go ahead and concede that Russell was in Miami last week, and at the club at 3 am.
What’s your point?
February 15th, 2010 at 6:30 am
He ain’t in AZ working out.
February 15th, 2010 at 6:31 am
these guys are also options …
Kareem Jackson (Alabama)
Kyle Wilson (Boise State)
Chad Jones (LSU)
Taylor Mays (USC)
Earl Thomas (Texas)
February 15th, 2010 at 6:32 am
Good Morning to the A.M. Crew!
February 15th, 2010 at 6:32 am
mornin’ ray!
February 15th, 2010 at 6:33 am
whats up Vegas?
how was V Day?
you take the wife out?
February 15th, 2010 at 6:33 am
Hey, what else are we going to talk about at 6:30 am on February 15th?
Draft is still two months away. Random tweets bashing Jamarcus, I’m on that!!!
Well just kidding……kind of
February 15th, 2010 at 6:35 am
Like you said, it’s either Huff or Mitchell, and Branch is locked in. Can’t see us taking Berry.
Vegas and I were saying Haden weeks ago. Don’t see how some folks don’t see CB as a CLEAR need with all the big passing plays we gave up last year. Right there with MLB as a need.
February 15th, 2010 at 6:35 am
Rockstar,
I had two little random events both Sat and Sun, so I cooked some filet’s Saturday and we went and saw that movie Valentine’s Day. Worked most of yesterday evening.
Jamie Foxx was hilarious, had me cracking up. One of the better chick-flick’s I have seen lately (and I have seen a lot of them)
February 15th, 2010 at 6:35 am
Vegas:
talking about a new stadium for 8 hours doesn’t sound thrilling to you?
sheesh.
I know it’s early, but we could always start the Russell vs. Gradkowski debate
LOL
February 15th, 2010 at 6:38 am
vegas raider Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 6:30 am
He ain’t in AZ working out.
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The gym was closed on SB sunday, and he figured he needed to put some miles on the G4! He was back at the gym by 11. Slept on the plane.
February 15th, 2010 at 6:40 am
He should stay out of South Beach with his Jamarcus Russell body!
February 15th, 2010 at 6:40 am
Jamie Foxx was hilarious, had me cracking up. One of the better chick-flick’s I have seen lately (and I have seen a lot of them)
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me too man. My wife wanted to go see When In Rome. so we did that. ate at this awesome BBQ place called Famous Daves. she doesn’t like fancy food and neither do I. She said I could skip the flowers, card, balloons and chocolates. Took her away for the weekend out of town. got a hotel. had a blast. If she doesn’t get pregnant over this past weekend I don’t know what it’s gonna take! haha
February 15th, 2010 at 6:41 am
Who knows maybe Russell can re-find his love for the game at 3am on the streets of South Beach.
I can see it now, Russell doesn’t get into the club right away, while dorky azz Chad Pennington walks right in.
“Oh snap, you telling me I can get in the club without having to drop a note at the door? Ray, MC go to Wal-Mart and gets some footballs, I have found my passion for the game again!!!”
February 15th, 2010 at 6:41 am
ray: did you say Russell is on the South Beach diet?
February 15th, 2010 at 6:41 am
Are you kidding?
South Beach welcomes him and his cash with open arms!
February 15th, 2010 at 6:43 am
I guess he wanted to show off his new shape? Lol!
February 15th, 2010 at 6:43 am
Rockstar,
We are in the same boat here bro. Let’s make a friends wager, on the honor system, first one to get their wives preggers gets a $50 baby gap gift card from the loser.
You in?
February 15th, 2010 at 6:43 am
LMFAO!
Chad Pennington?
Aw man, I didn’t know Chad rolled like that.
February 15th, 2010 at 6:43 am
Vegas and I were saying Haden weeks ago. Don’t see how some folks don’t see CB as a CLEAR need with all the big passing plays we gave up last year. Right there with MLB as a need.
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alright Jhill. Joe Haden it is
BAM! PRESTO! DONE!
Haden or Johnson = nickel corner?
Huff: cut or useful in 5 & 6 DB sets?
February 15th, 2010 at 6:44 am
No doubt Jhill, just trying to be funny.
I’m no Dakota or LA to the Bay with their scripts!!
February 15th, 2010 at 6:45 am
Well then….What’s everybody’s religious and political views lol
February 15th, 2010 at 6:45 am
NATION, What is up??????
BRL, should be resting at 3am. No reason for a “franchise NFL QB” to be out that late.
BRL <====== brain dead mime, will never get it.
BRL <====== Not a leader of men.
BRL <====== hopefully cut at the end of camp.
February 15th, 2010 at 6:46 am
OAKLAND Q.B. JAMARCUS RUSSELL SINGLE-HANDEDLY REVIVES FLORIDA ECONOMY..
February 15th, 2010 at 6:47 am
Vegas,
I’m gonna have to pass. We’ve been trying for a year already and it hasn’t happened. not feeling real confident about my odds. Not sure whats up. Maybe because she had been on the pill for about 9 years?
Next online chat I’m gonna ask Darren McFadden what the secret is …
February 15th, 2010 at 6:49 am
Haden should start opposite Nnamdi with CJ moving to the nickle.
Huff goes no where IMO. I think he’s easily our best DB behind Nnamdi. If he’s doing anything this offseason like he did last season in terms of filmwork, we’d be CRAZY to let him go.
February 15th, 2010 at 6:49 am
OK so am I a degenerate for trying to get action on a pregnancy?
I am a pothead, and the wife is 39 so I would think Rockstar would be the favorite.
Here it is:
Who gets their wife pregnant first
RaiderRockstar -140
Vegas Raider +125
Any takers??
February 15th, 2010 at 6:50 am
Dirt Lot:
Russell could probably open up 50 more ‘In-N-Out Burgers’ in California and save thier economy too.
provide some jobs JR! as Priest calls him “the savior” or chosen one or whatever
February 15th, 2010 at 6:51 am
What’s everybody’s religious and political views
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Are those really 2 different things?
February 15th, 2010 at 6:52 am
Are there In N Outs in Northern Cali?
February 15th, 2010 at 6:53 am
On a football note, we ABSOLUTELY need to upgrade our 3rd DB position. IMO, Stanford Routt was one of our single biggest problems for our 3rd down defense.
However, we need a slot DB, and most of the top DB’s in the draft are guys better suited on the outside.
So looking at the best slot DB’s in the draft and ……Javier Arenas it is!!
Plus he is an all-world kick returner. Can be a very, very, solid 2nd round pick.
February 15th, 2010 at 6:53 am
Huff goes no where IMO. I think he’s easily our best DB behind Nnamdi. If he’s doing anything this offseason like he did last season in terms of filmwork, we’d be CRAZY to let him go.
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couldn’t agree more Jhill. so what do we do with Mike Mitchell then? reserve him for blitz packages and special teams use?
February 15th, 2010 at 6:54 am
BRL <======= chosen to be the biggest theif on raider history…
February 15th, 2010 at 6:54 am
jhill Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 6:52 am
Are there In N Outs in Northern Cali?
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Absolutely. When they opened the one in Tracy, there was people camping out over night for the grand opening.
Shows you just how exciting of a town Tracy is!!!
February 15th, 2010 at 6:54 am
No Cal has in and outs now….
February 15th, 2010 at 6:55 am
Javier Arenas it is!!
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why didn’t I see that coming? LOL
if it were a snake it would have bit me!
February 15th, 2010 at 6:56 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 6:53 am
couldn’t agree more Jhill. so what do we do with Mike Mitchell then? reserve him for blitz packages and special teams use?
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Exactly!! And I think he can be VERY effective in this role. Throw in short-yardage and goalline situations as well.
February 15th, 2010 at 6:56 am
But I don’t think we area going to take Haden at 8. I think Al is going Oline.
What do you guys really think Al, Cable, and Jackson have to say about the offense last year other than Russell? Why were 2 QBs knocked out of the game forcing Russell back in? Why was there no running game?
I have to imagine the consensus for the offense has to be upgrading the Oline between those 3.
February 15th, 2010 at 6:56 am
Draft should be simple
Take the best avalible player left on the draft board.
We have way to many needs to be picky, MLB, Oline, Dline in no particular order.
February 15th, 2010 at 6:57 am
Vegas: you know you shouldn’t be talking about Tracy or you’ll automatically revert back to the top of MR’s “target to troll” list
February 15th, 2010 at 6:58 am
wouldnt surprise me if we take a QB round one.
Mr Davis likes projects and 40 times tebow could be the pick…..lol
February 15th, 2010 at 6:58 am
BRL loves 30×30 ANIMAL STYLE!!!
http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss52/supernewbie4life/In-N-Out-Burger.jpg
February 15th, 2010 at 6:58 am
Rockstar….stand her on her head and go at IT!
February 15th, 2010 at 6:58 am
U GOT 2 HAVE BULLETT’S IN THEM THERE GUN’S VEGAS & ROCKSTAR !!!!!
February 15th, 2010 at 6:59 am
30 x 30…lol
February 15th, 2010 at 7:00 am
LOL at Dirt Lot & 4eva …
February 15th, 2010 at 7:00 am
so what do we do with Mike Mitchell then?
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I like the 3 safety package we run. Huff, Branch, and Mitchell can all be on the field at the same time, and yes Mitchell needs to continue to be the guy who attacks the LOS and plays some of the short zone areas. Definitely has to come off the field in certain situations, but I wouldn’t just limit him to blitzes and short yardage.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:00 am
hey Rock, and Vegas, ave you guys been tested for blankage????
February 15th, 2010 at 7:02 am
vegas raider Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 6:49 am
OK so am I a degenerate for trying to get action on a pregnancy?
I am a pothead, and the wife is 39 so I would think Rockstar would be the favorite.
Here it is:
Who gets their wife pregnant first
RaiderRockstar -140
Vegas Raider +125
Any takers??
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Don’t rule out an immaculate conception… that’s how Danny Southwick was conceived.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:02 am
There’s this SoCal debate of In N Out or Fatburger.
Both spots are always packed.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:04 am
jhill Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 7:02 am
There’s this SoCal debate of In N Out or Fatburger.
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OR?
February 15th, 2010 at 7:09 am
Going to have to throw the wife under the bus on this one and say it ain’t all on me. The daily grass burning don’t help, but in my younger days I added to the Planned Parenthood numbers.
I’m just trying to stay positive, have the miracle, and name him Bruce. More worried about having sextuplets or something crazy like that.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:09 am
Yeah man …
Or = which one is better.
I know you’ve hit Fatburger while you were in So Cal.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:12 am
Thec07 Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 6:56 am
Draft should be simple
Take the best avalible player left on the draft board.
We have way to many needs to be picky, MLB, Oline, Dline in no particular order.
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I really agree Thec07. Pretty much why I like McClain at #8. Everyone says he is the best ILB.
Do we take the 3rd or maybe 4th best OT? 3rd best DT?
The “value” guys in the draft say no. They may also say Dez Bryant might be a good pick.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:12 am
I think Al is going Oline.
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Jhill: Tom Cable is still the Head Coach and he’s a terrible personnel guy. He’ll probably try to convince Al that he can fix the O-Line with some scrubs in free agency again
here is a list of the guys we signed to the roster and/or practice squad from FA since Cable arrived.
Marcus Johnson
Seth Wand
Mark Wilson
James Marten
John Wade
Roy Schuening
Brandon Rodd
Langston Walker
Elliot Vallejo
Tim Mattran
Dylan Gandy
Junius Coston
Kwame Harris
Cornell Green
Cooper Carlisle
Samson Satele
Erik Pears
Khalif Barnes
anybody I forgot?
February 15th, 2010 at 7:13 am
FatBurger has a better burger and more selection, IN n Out is a little cheaper and quicker.
To each their own.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:14 am
Tommy’s Burger? Anyone?
February 15th, 2010 at 7:15 am
Agree Vegas.
Can’t get chili or onion rings at In N Out.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:17 am
You have to have plenty of alcohol in you to fugg with Tommy’s, lol.
That chili is THICH, bruh!
February 15th, 2010 at 7:19 am
Jhill: Tom Cable is still the Head Coach and he’s a terrible personnel guy. He’ll probably try to convince Al that he can fix the O-Line with some scrubs in free agency again
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I think Tom Cable pretty much doesn’t have a say in it. Lame duck coach if ever there was one. The Raiders win, Jackson gets the credit. Raiders start off slow, Cable is fired and Jackson get bumped up.
Jackson and Al interviewed for 4 days?
Have to think Jackson asked for an Oline upgrade.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:20 am
If we had of done the draft right the last 3 years we would be picking Dez Bryant this year, whom i like way better than crabtree…Not comparing him to dhb becuase dhb is not an NFL WR….
Take the best player on the board not a QB, or a safety…
February 15th, 2010 at 7:20 am
Here’s a video on Jamarcus drunk as hell in Miami!!
http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=6ccc7659-9de3-4ef8-a927-7502d11cec0d
February 15th, 2010 at 7:20 am
Tom Cable is a joke when it comes to finding talented players for the zbs on his OL, yet somehow he’s an excellent OL Coach.
he’ll probably lobby for guys like this in free agency:
Ben Hamilton, Denver Broncos (33)
Mike Brisiel, Houston Texans (27)
we might even re-sign Cornell Green. then he’ll tell grandpa Al to have his way in the draft and take whatever speedsters his little heart desires
February 15th, 2010 at 7:22 am
F@CK BRL….. Fat, Lazy, Stupid, Sac-o-Scheit…..
February 15th, 2010 at 7:25 am
Classic R8eray.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:26 am
Damn, my bad…that’s Vince Young!!Lol!
Got them confused again!
Sorry!
February 15th, 2010 at 7:26 am
lol
February 15th, 2010 at 7:26 am
Jhill: you don’t think Hue Jackson is another puppet?
you don’t think he’ll tote the company line and patiently wait for his shot at Head Coach?
I don’t think Hue would throw Tom under the bus, but Al sure would.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:29 am
Can Cable “fit” under the bus
February 15th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Jhill: you don’t think Hue Jackson is another puppet?
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I think Hue Jackson was grilled by Al Davis on how he would go about fixing this offense and making the players he drafted produce. I would guess they watched some film, talked about the players on offense, and what the problems were. If you and I can see the holes on the Oline, I think Jackson probably see is too.
I think the offense will get the pick at #8. Jamarcus Russell, DMAC, and DHB all need to get on track now and IMO the way to do that is upgrade the Oline.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:31 am
Hue Jackson seems like a sharp classy guy. been given the OC job several times with terrible QB’s and fired almost immediately after the season when his teams didn’t win (washington & atlanta)
same scenario in oakland. Hue Jackson probably gave Al Davis 50 reasons why JaMarcus Russell isn’t a bust to get the OC job. then Al said “you’re hired. prove it”
Hue wasn’t as loved Year #2 in Baltimore as he was Year #1 in Baltimore.
and Chad Johnson took a swing at him when Hue Jackson was coaching WR’s in Cincy, remember?
February 15th, 2010 at 7:31 am
sees it to.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:32 am
So if you go oline at 8 you go LT and move our current LT to RT. A RT, RG, G, or C at 8 is a wasted pick IMHO…
February 15th, 2010 at 7:35 am
Thec, so with that being said…who would you take at #8?
February 15th, 2010 at 7:36 am
RG, G, or C at 8 is a wasted pick IMHO…
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I disagree with this whole system of who you choose and when. I say address your biggest needs in the draft, period!
Last year, I wanted Mack before we traded for Satele.
I’d draft Iupati or Bulaga at 8. If they start anywhere on the Oline, and upgrade positions, how is it a wasted pick? If they can open a hole, or hold the line on passing plays, that helps the whole team out.
IMO, Green and Carlisle need to be upgraded moreso than Morrison. It’s not even close.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:37 am
If we take an OT at #8 overall he’ll probably compete to start at both tackle spots.
Henderson can’t be considered a lock at LT after last year’s performance… not many false starts, but too many sacks allowed
February 15th, 2010 at 7:37 am
Morning AM crew!
February 15th, 2010 at 7:37 am
Henderson-Gallery-Satele-Walker-Bulaga
Henderson-Gallery-Satele-Iupati-Ciron Black(2nd rd)
February 15th, 2010 at 7:39 am
If we didn’t take an O-line last year,what makes you think we’ll take one this year ?
February 15th, 2010 at 7:39 am
Henderson can’t be considered a lock at LT after last year’s performance…
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You got that right.
Did realize how well Gallery was playing until he went down the second time. Henderson without Gallery next to him was AWFUL!
February 15th, 2010 at 7:39 am
IMO, Green and Carlisle need to be upgraded moreso than Morrison. It’s not even close.
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wow. never thought I’d hear Jhill say that!
weren’t you all about the run defense last offseason?
I agree, just sayin’
Tommy Kelly, Kirk Morrison, Thomas Howard & Trevor Scott would ALL benefit from a solid NT!
February 15th, 2010 at 7:40 am
neilb Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 7:39 am
If we didn’t take an O-line last year,what makes you think we’ll take one this year ?
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Because it’s time man. It’s time!
February 15th, 2010 at 7:43 am
I still think Morrison needs to be replaced. Don’t get me wrong. Just acknowlege that there is NO WAY we can go into the season with Carlisle at RG and Green at RT.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:43 am
How many RT’s have went gone in the first 10 picks of any draft? RT is a need granted that so move henderson back to RT, and draft a LT at 8.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:43 am
UFA DT’s
Vince Wilfork
Aubrayo Franklin
Casey Hampton
Ryan Pickett
Kendrick Clancy, New Orleans Saints (32)
Jason Ferguson, Miami Dolphins (35)
Tank Johnson, Cincinnati Bengals (28)
Fred Robbins, New York Giants (33)
UFA LB’s
Karlos Dansby
Keith Bulluck, Tennessee Titans (33)
Danny Clark, New York Giants (33)
Angelo Crowell, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (29)
Gary Brackett, Indianapolis Colts (30)
Larry Foote, Detroit Lions (30)
Cato June, Houston Texans (30)
Scott Fujita, New Orleans Saints (31)
Jason Taylor, Miami Dolphins (36)
Zach Thomas, Kansas City Chiefs (37)
Pisa Tinoisamoa, Chicago Bears (29)
Mike Vrabel, Kansas City Chiefs (35)
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Jhill: any of these guys strike your fancy if we go OL in Round 1 and CB in Round 2 ???
February 15th, 2010 at 7:44 am
It’s time for alot of things to happen!!
Like a winning season, a winning QB, a run stopping defense, a GM, a new Coach, I could go on, and on, and on!!!
February 15th, 2010 at 7:45 am
I hear ya Jhill!! But if we didn’t take one of the “cadillac’s” last year why would Cable draft one this year ?
I agree that Green and Carlisle are done but I’d rather use free-agency to fix that area than the draft.The reason being that I want a proven veteran player that will produce from day one.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:45 am
Gallery is not a lock to come back from back surgery.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:46 am
Andre Smith will be a RT next year, and so is Jason Smith.
Just saying, I don’t care what the other teams do. Iupati could wind up being the best OL in the draft. If we get a pro bowl G at 8 how is that a bad thing?
I agree that Bulaga should be allowed to compete for the LT spot. I still say Barnes should get a shot at OT as well and maybe Henderson ends up on the bench.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:49 am
I think Warren going in to year 11 needs to come off the bench. Al was trying to get Wilfork from NE last year and ended up with Seymour.
I wouldn’t mind a fat guy in rd 2 like Lamar Houston from Texas. Or maybe we can trade back up and get Williams from Tenn.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:49 am
Rockstar…
Add Antonio Pierce to that list of LB’s.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:49 am
You can get a G in the later rounds the draft is deep, in Oline this year….
Last year was a good year for LB’s…..
February 15th, 2010 at 7:50 am
Gallery is not a lock to come back from back surgery.
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Even more reason to go Oline in Rd 1!
February 15th, 2010 at 7:50 am
Good morning to all my family here,…its been a long weekend without you…the staff of doctors treating me tell me that I should never wander from this blog,..anyway, good morning to you all.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:51 am
We need to invest both our 3rd round picks on the O-line.
That is a good investment. A RT prospect and a G.
If we take the “flashy” 1st round LT, we should do it next year, when we can let Henderson walk and not have to worry about which one goes to the left or right or all that.
And shouldn’t Henderson get one more year? He has shown some flashes of good play the last two years.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:52 am
Neilb,
I agree with you on the veteran player angle. I’m hoping we actually trade for someone to help the Oline. Outside of that happening, the FA list isn’t too impressive. Rather go OL at 8.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:52 am
Morning Bob…
What did you decide to wear at the games ?
February 15th, 2010 at 7:55 am
Jhill…
Givern that our recent record with first round picks sucks big time.I wouldn’t mind trading the first pick on a proven player.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:57 am
Don’t want to trade the #8 pick.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:57 am
We did with the 7th a few years back.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:58 am
Our pick suck because we tend to reach to much.
Our draft phloshophy is flawed, as we take projects and reaches.
Example you want to draft a skill postion player in the fiirst RD lets say WR, and you dont take the best WR you take the fastest….
How on earth to you take DHB over crabtree, britt, maclin, harniv????
February 15th, 2010 at 8:00 am
If we do draft O-line in the first round, I honestly would take the Iupati guy.
He seems the least likely to be a huge flop, and that’s what we are reduced to in the first round these days. And we need a G, and a guy who can play a few positions.
This OT Campbell who has a 4.8 forty or whatever, with a little baggage and somewhat unproven. Please Al don’t do that!!!!
I would love Okung, but he won’t be available.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:01 am
I am not worried about henderson, he may have fell off a little but i would not want to trade him or let him go at this point.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:01 am
MLB’s in FA -
Karlos Dansby
Danny Clark
Antonio Pierce
Gary Brackett
Larry Foote
Zach Thomas
grab one of these guys or go get a solid NT and give Kirk Morrison 1 more season?
February 15th, 2010 at 8:01 am
“How on earth to you take DHB over crabtree, britt, maclin, harniv????”
…..because you’ve got an old man obsessed with speed in control.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:02 am
You have a project that has been playing LT, draft a LT and move the project back to his natural position.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:05 am
Wauffle should know if Antonio Pierce can still do the job,if he thinks he can,sign him and move Kirk to the outside.
With that it’s time for me to go.
Have a great Monday everyone.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:08 am
LTR Neilb…..
February 15th, 2010 at 8:10 am
Henderson isn’t a strong enough run blocker to have at RT.
Isn’t that what Kiffin & Cable both determined?
He’s better at pass protection than run blocking and last year when placed on an island even his pass protection skills were in question.
Robert Gallery’s absence on the left side of the OL was felt. Injuries are a part of the game though and if he has to rely on somebody else in order to get his job done maybe it is time to look at our LT of the future?
“Super” Mario thought he was going to have a Pro Bowl type season and cash in this year. Thats why he switched agents and got Drew Rosenhaus, right? Instead he found out he has a lot more to work on… haha
February 15th, 2010 at 8:12 am
If okung, Suh, or Mccoy are on the board at 8 who do you take?
February 15th, 2010 at 8:12 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 8:01 am
MLB’s in FA -
Karlos Dansby
Danny Clark
Antonio Pierce
Gary Brackett
Larry Foote
Zach Thomas
grab one of these guys or go get a solid NT and give Kirk Morrison 1 more season?
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I think R. McClain or B. Spikes sounds better.
I never would have let Clark go, but he can’t have much left.
Dansby won’t play here. Neither will Brackett, and they are the only real players.
Pierce?…maybe.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:14 am
# Thec07 Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 8:12 am
If okung, Suh, or Mccoy are on the board at 8 who do you take?
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Al would take the fastest Division 3 school cornerback, count on it.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:15 am
lol…
February 15th, 2010 at 8:17 am
McCoy!
February 15th, 2010 at 8:18 am
I think what I will do is bring back Rainbow Head…hes still in Folsom prison,..I will wear that rainbow fro,..tie die shyt,..but not JOHN 3:16,..my shirt will say, Free Rainbow Head.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:20 am
Jhill, You take McCoy, over Okung???
February 15th, 2010 at 8:21 am
Al would take the fastest Division 3 school cornerback, count on it.
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When has that ever happened?
February 15th, 2010 at 8:21 am
You guys really into the draft already? Damn. I would trade that top pick for an established player.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:23 am
Only way I trade the 8 pick is to trade down, and get more picks…
February 15th, 2010 at 8:23 am
I do!
Iupati and Bulaga are picks based on all the guys you mentioned being gone. Suh and McCoy are better prospects than Okung.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:24 am
The draft is the only thing going right now. we could allways talk about what a mess the franchise is in…
February 15th, 2010 at 8:24 am
I think Mayock knows what he’s talking about, but I saw Suh just dominate against some good teams.
I would take Suh.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:24 am
I do have some good news, due to the early spring, I planted my germinated seedlings yesterday,..Im doing 10 in my backyard,..however, in my plot of land in Arcata, I will do about 50….its a crapshoot though,…not worried about being ripped off as the guy I have watching the place is armed, but we have always had issues with the deer,..they love the shyt,..and only eat the tops,..never touch a leaf,..just the tops.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:25 am
DT, MLB, RT, RG
In no particular order, we HAVE to have new starters at these 4 positions.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:25 am
Sorry thec, I dont agree with your opinion the team is a mess.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:26 am
Draft day either Suh or McCoy is going to be on the board I will bet money on it. Mr Davis will take a Safety…
February 15th, 2010 at 8:26 am
thats cool Nbob, we can disagree…
February 15th, 2010 at 8:28 am
Why would Al take a S? Huff was a need pick. I’d hardly say S is a need with Branch and Huff being standouts.
Huff was a question mark last offseason when we drafted Mitchell in the 2nd round.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:28 am
Going back to my original statement…Take the best player not a QB, WR, or S on the board….
February 15th, 2010 at 8:29 am
JHill, who are we talking about Mr. Davis right???
I am not saying we need a safety, i am saying
Mr Davis will take a hard look at Mays…
IMHO we are good at safety…
February 15th, 2010 at 8:31 am
Thec,
How is the organization a mess? I thought we were a QB away from being a playoff team?
Cable is still the coach, and he has Russell #3 on his depth chart.
We brought in an OC. OL, DL, and the return game have been identified as areas than will be improved. Already started the process by adding Wauffle and “freeing up” some of Cable’s time, lol, so he can concentrate on coaching the Oline.
What’s messy about that?
February 15th, 2010 at 8:33 am
jhill there are those whose lives are such a mess, it makes them feel better to think their sports team is also a mess.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:33 am
Thec,
When has Al Davis taken a position in the first round that wasn’t arguably a need?
Like Vegas says, the positions haven’t been the problem, it’s been the player. There is no need at S, so it will not be the pick.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:36 am
nice assumption nbob, doesnt apply though…
February 15th, 2010 at 8:36 am
If the Raiders bring Grads and Frye back and Russell ends up starting next year, is there any scenario that will make you guys believe he actaully earned the job?
February 15th, 2010 at 8:37 am
I never said we were a QB away from being a playoff team…
February 15th, 2010 at 8:37 am
Nice day for a holiday,…Im having a coffee with brandy in it, smoking some really relaxing reefer,..and playing my Natalie Coles greatest hits cd.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:38 am
Not an assumption, its very clear, the ones in here that complain the most you can easily tell are struggling in the real world,…vent in here about a silly football team.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:38 am
I get through life naturally, without poluting it.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Ya thec, some people cant handle getting high,…has a different affect on them,..but theres reasons for that.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Its an assumption to me becuase you dont know me….
You can get all that from my saying the org is a mess?
lol…
February 15th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Nbob, Mentally in the business i am in the more clear my head is the better decisions i make….
Gives me an advatage over my competition, making decisions with a clear mind is awesome….
February 15th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Self medication is an attempt to escspe the real world…
February 15th, 2010 at 8:46 am
thec, you clearly need to het high.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:46 am
What’s wrong with the Org, Thec?
Cable is going on year 3. Continuity is in place.
Russell HAS to come in to camp in shape or he’ll be cut.
We brought in a play caller.
What’s the problem?
Seriously?
What else do we need to do?
February 15th, 2010 at 8:47 am
Jhill, WR was not a first RD need last year IMHO… and Mr Davis took a reach at that…
DHB < Crabtree, Britt, Harvin, Maclin
February 15th, 2010 at 8:48 am
Naw Nbob, would never do that Bruh…did that when i was young. It was fun had to admit, but I grew up along time ago…
February 15th, 2010 at 8:49 am
lol
February 15th, 2010 at 8:49 am
If the Raiders bring Grads and Frye back and Russell ends up starting next year, is there any scenario that will make you guys believe he actaully earned the job?
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1. his play of the field
2. his shape/conditioning
3. comments from his teammates & coaches (not fans, Al Davis or the Raiders PR guy)
if ANY of these things happen you have to think he took some time during the offseason to workout and/or improve his game. thats a step in the right direction if he wants to play football for a living
February 15th, 2010 at 8:50 am
Nbob, I respect you Bro you have cool insight, and great a$$ 1 liners, but we can disagree on the self medication thing…
February 15th, 2010 at 8:52 am
if Russell starts ahead of Frye & Gradkowski and plays like he has the past 3 years it’ll be awful hard to believe he actaully earned the job …
February 15th, 2010 at 8:52 am
You call in self medicating, I dont.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:53 am
RR, 3 things we know will happen,
1. BRL will suck as usual…
2. He will come in at 270, when he should be 245.
3. Teamates will hate him, Big sey will even collar him.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:54 am
NBob, we can disagree on what we call it as well…
No prob Bro… all good…
February 15th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Whats wrong with the organization? Is that a serious question? Jhill, I disagree with your take 75% of the time but I dont consider you a stupid person. The fact that you posed that question makes me question that though. I mean seriously, the list of whats wrong with the organization is almost too long to list. But here are a few that stick out….
1) The owner has lost his mind. Seriously, no joke.
No #1 QB
2) The team has bungled the draft year after year.
3) The team has no real leaders.
4) The organization is full of deranged “yes” men.
5) The coaching staff rivals the worst in the NFL.
6) Tom Cable is not a NFL head coach.
7) Free agent bust after free agent bust.
9) No #1 RB
10) No #1 WR
I could go on and on and on and on and on. The fact is this: The modern day Raider organization is the worst in the NFL.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:56 am
2. He will come in at 270, when he should be 245.
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Nahhhh …
He’s already on the workout train Olympic trainder dude. He’s going after that 9 million man. He’ll be back to his offseason routing he had under Kiffin.
February 15th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Nbob, got a question for you Bruh, do you see Shyt when you are stoned and liquired up? Shyt like oh that was just a mirage, or just my imagination, i didnt really see what i saw, just my mind playing tricks…
February 15th, 2010 at 8:57 am
No dude, you have things all wrong,..people dont get high to hallucinate,..see visions,..dang man, have you ever smoked pot??????
February 15th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Thanks Nbob thats the word i was looking for hallucinate….
I think you misunderstood, I am not saying you do it for that, I am asking do you ever see things…
Like what you supposedly saw with BRL…
That was clearly a mirage, or a hallucination…
February 15th, 2010 at 9:01 am
– The offseason of JaMarcus Russell.
“He’s having a phenominal offseason. He came back 10, 11 days before we even started,” Kiffin said. “So he was with our coaches and with our strength staff before everybody else got back here five weeks ago and he hasn’t missed a thing since. Most the guys are really here three, four hours a day. He’s here about five-and-a-half, six hours a day.
“He’s here first thing in the morning, he has position meetings in the morning, he goes in and lifts and he goes in and runs. He comes in and changes and goes back out and throws with the guys. By far he’s in the best shape since I’ve seen him, even if you go back to his pro day at college. So I know he’s real excited about the upcoming season as well.”
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Wonder what the difference was between Kiffin and Cable? How did Russell all of a sudden stop doing the things he was going the year prior?
February 15th, 2010 at 9:01 am
Jhill, Raiderron coverd that questio nicely….
February 15th, 2010 at 9:02 am
either the coaching staff is not up to par, or BRL is lazy….
My opinion is both…
February 15th, 2010 at 9:02 am
The grass didnt assist me seeign that really,..it came from somewhere else.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:03 am
what is brl?
February 15th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Nbob, so where did it come from “GOD”…lol
the god of Hash….lol
February 15th, 2010 at 9:04 am
You asked that before Bro….
BRL<======= Black Ryan Leaf….
February 15th, 2010 at 9:05 am
It came to me because now Im in row 1,..and row 1 fans have special sight, I have seen the future on other Raider stuff too,…I was in row 4,..saw nothing,..row 1 has opened my eyes, I now have the power of future sight.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:06 am
black ryan leaf,..ah,..very cool,…very cool…(ya right)
February 15th, 2010 at 9:06 am
R8erRay, that’s Vince Young in that video. It even says so, fool.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:07 am
3 things we know will happen,
1. BRL will suck as usual…
2. He will come in at 270, when he should be 245.
3. Teamates will hate him, Big sey will even collar him.
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Thec: thats what I fully expect to happen from what I’ve seen so far since being drafted in 2007.
obviously like most Raider fans I hope for the best, but for Russell to be where he’s at going into his 4th NFL season I’d be foolish NOT to be skeptical of a ZERO to HERO transformation. January through August is plenty of time to get in shape, study film, get Hue Jackson’s playbook down, get on the same page with his WR’s and enjoy a little time with friends & family.
Charlie Frye wasn’t signed until June 8th last year. We were his 3rd team in the last 3 seasons and Jerry Mac said he looked like the best QB in camp …
JP Losman was signed on December 15th and he was thrown into a game AT DENVER on 12/20 before a healthy JaMarcus Russell.
anybody who thinks this kid is getting the job done at QB is seriously delusional.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:09 am
Ok NBob, I will humor you…use your “powers” to answer these questions;
1. CA Lottery numbers
2. What does 2012 hold
3. Will we ever meet
4. 2012 SB winner
5. Will the raiders geta new stadium
6. the raiders draft order 2010
7. will cable be the head coach 2011-12 season.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:11 am
I hope BRL is cut before camp….
February 15th, 2010 at 9:12 am
I have the power!!
February 15th, 2010 at 9:12 am
He should get rid of thet bling that says chosen?
Or better yet he should keep it. Chosen as the biggest bust since ryan leaf….
February 15th, 2010 at 9:13 am
O, what up Bro…Sorry Bruh you dont have the power NBob does…lol
February 15th, 2010 at 9:13 am
either the coaching staff is not up to par, or BRL is lazy….
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How is a person lazy for one coach and not the other?
Russell will be back to the being the first guy there, and everything will be back on track.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Thec,
Give JaBustus one more year to prove he can do it.
I believe in JaBustus!
February 15th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Raider O:
do you think you could show at at the Sandy Eggo game in a walrus costume wearing a Russell jersey?
I kept trying to get BSJ to do it last year but he chickened out!
February 15th, 2010 at 9:15 am
My new row 1 powers tell me Russell will lead the way to the afc west title.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:15 am
show up*
typo
February 15th, 2010 at 9:16 am
So BRL has to be pushed? I am a civillian i work out because i want to. He job description dictates he should be in shape.
Where is his dedication to the game?
Where is his work ethic?
Where is his leadership?
BRL <=======garbage dumpster
February 15th, 2010 at 9:18 am
O, sorry Bruh…I did that last year gave him till mid season. The guy is going on his 4th year in the league and is horrible…
I want to see him cut at the end of camp, if not before….
February 15th, 2010 at 9:18 am
I don’t care about all that Thec …
Just need to see more Russell to Chaz, Russell, to Miller, and Russell to Murphy. All off of PA after pounding the rock.
And all that after upgrading the Oline to open some holes and hold some frickin blocks.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:19 am
LMAO
I would, but someone would have to pay for the custome and the ticket.
That’s funny! I have a jabustus jersey.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Nbob, “IF” you trust your powers throw some coin at it.
Let bet a C note that we dont break .500…
February 15th, 2010 at 9:20 am
Jhill, Really????
February 15th, 2010 at 9:21 am
Thec,
Were you happy with Russell after the Tampa game last year?
February 15th, 2010 at 9:21 am
Wonder what the difference was between Kiffin and Cable? How did Russell all of a sudden stop doing the things he was going the year prior?
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The answer is simple, he hadn’t got most of his $38 million yet.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:21 am
Thec,
I can’t argue due to his poor play last season, but Im not ready to give up in him. Not based on logic, buy more on hope. He was my pick for they year, and I wanted him over CJ.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:23 am
JHill, I am happy with any win we get…Not happy with the production or performance at QB….
February 15th, 2010 at 9:23 am
RR,
Walrus with lots of Bling and a Burger!! lol
February 15th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Really, Thec.
I’ve always said that the work environement should change in Alameda. Everything should be mandatory. QB meetings, strength and conditioning, extra workouts in areas that need it (QB to WRs, Oline play, Dline).
Should have 12 hour workdays!
How are these things not mandatory for a sports team?
February 15th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Russell may get into decent enough shape to help, as Jhill correctly put it, chase that 9 million.
The Raiders need to see through that BS.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:24 am
BRL <======= country bumpkin…Not an NFL QB…
February 15th, 2010 at 9:24 am
The 2008 version of Jamarcus Russell would have had this team close to .500 last year.
But we got nothing close to that.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Cmon Vegas,
How much did he make last year? And he’s due another 9 million next year using your logic, so I trust he’ll be in shape.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:26 am
To be honest I am not sure what is mandtory with the raider org…..
But it clearly is ran like no other….
February 15th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Jhill,
You might not care about those intagibles, but BRL’s teamates do….
1. Work Ethic
2. Leadership
3. Dedication
You really dont care about these things in a NFL QB???
February 15th, 2010 at 9:28 am
RR,
I say someone has to pay and you disappear?!
February 15th, 2010 at 9:28 am
So Russell is on the right track under Kiffin, but goes off track under Hackett and Cable?
Cmon folks. What really happened?
None of his teammates hated him last year. No one thought he was a slouch, etc, etc, etc.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Jhill, You really beleive BRL had the respect of his teammates last year????
NBob, you were at the games what happened when BRL came in the games?
Not only was the fan base deflated, but the team appeared to say its over, were done….
February 15th, 2010 at 9:31 am
The Oline and WRs played better for Bruce than JR. That shows how they feel about JR. IMHO
February 15th, 2010 at 9:32 am
BRL<======= garbage dumpster….Cut him today Mr. Davis
February 15th, 2010 at 9:32 am
Thec,
What I’m saying is I don’t know Russell or what’s going on around him.
Work Ethic, Leadership, and dedication ? I know it looked like he knew the plays that won the Denver game. I know that Cable sure did call a lot of passes for a guy who doesn’t know the playbook. I know we need a at least 3 new starters on the OL. I know that DHB and Murphy shouldn’t have been starters early in the year.
Too many things to fix before I go with the National Enquier angles.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:32 am
jhill Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Cmon Vegas,
How much did he make last year?
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Everything was all but guaranteed for him, and he made close to $15 million, so he didn’t focus or work hard. By all accounts, from media, teammates and coaches, he got outworked by Frye and Bruce, and got temporarily demoted.
He now does not have the same guarantees going into this year, money-wise, as he did last year. He BETTER
February 15th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Jhill,
Don’t forget how we were better at rushing with the same quality Oline if not worse.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:33 am
……get in better shape
February 15th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Thec07 Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Jhill, You really beleive BRL had the respect of his teammates last year????
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When did I say that?
I questioned the year before under Kiffin. When we closed out the season with wins over Houston and Tampa.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:34 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Raider O:
do you think you could show at at the Sandy Eggo game in a walrus costume wearing a Russell jersey?
I kept trying to get BSJ to do it last year but he chickened out!
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Had I gone to a game I would have sported the walrus outfit, gar-ron-teed! Alas, I am as far from Oakdump as you RRS.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:35 am
JHill, not national enquirer angle on my part. I have seen enough of this guy, wouldnt be mad if we drafted a QB with pick 8….
February 15th, 2010 at 9:35 am
O,
The Oline played so much better they got both Frye and Grads knocked out of the game, lol.
And Russell didn’t play with Chaz and a seasoned Murphy. He has DHB, Watkins, and a fumbling Murphy.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:37 am
Jhill, I was asking a question, do you really beleive he had the respect of his teammates?
February 15th, 2010 at 9:38 am
DHB <======= Wasted, reach, 40 time, pick…
February 15th, 2010 at 9:40 am
I have to leave the fun, get some work done….
1 NATION…..
February 15th, 2010 at 9:40 am
Jhill,
I blame Cable.
Fire Cable!!
February 15th, 2010 at 9:40 am
noted BSJ. thanks bro
Raider O: i’m sure there are some Raider fans at your school that would gladly donate to the walrus costume fund …
maybe even some SD fans that would love to see Russell humiliated on national TV during the dolt game.
wait, that’ll probably happen anyways on the field!
February 15th, 2010 at 9:41 am
Work Ethic, Leadership, and dedication ? I know it looked like he knew the plays that won the Denver game
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The Bruce bashers always try to throw in the “what if’s” for the dropped int’s in the Bengals and Steelers game.
What if Jamarcus’ fumble early in the drive would have been recovered by Denver? He didn’t do anything until after the 2nd and 20 something PI call put us at midfield.
We can play the what if’s all day. He did get the TD, and the team played with a faster pace that day.
I’ll give Russell some credit for that. Although things weren’t looking so hot with JP Losman in the game at one point.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:42 am
My times up here at the library,..hate that,..will try and log on later, if one of these opens up.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:43 am
I like Jacoby Ford, if he runs a sub 4.25.
Draft Ford if he runs a sub 4.25!
February 15th, 2010 at 9:48 am
RR,
LMAO
So……, you don’t want to support the idea financially?
Still LMAO
February 15th, 2010 at 9:49 am
Your comment is awaiting moderation
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LOL!
I guess Becker won’t allow you to post pics of Walrus outfits anymore!
February 15th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Trade DMAC for a laptop and access for Bob!
February 15th, 2010 at 9:52 am
# Thec07 Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 9:37 am
Jhill, I was asking a question, do you really beleive he had the respect of his teammates?
# Raider O Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 9:31 am
The Oline and WRs played better for Bruce than JR. That shows how they feel about JR. IMHO
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I like Russell. I think Russell still has a future in the league. But it is hard to argue against these points.
February 15th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Jhill, you still fighting with these guy’s about Russell huh? man they believe what they choose to believe and they believe he’s lazy doesn’t care and on and on.
Your post#341 should’ve shed a light on the matter but it didn’t phase them because they hate the kid. The word is he’s working very hard already I wonder where Chaz is and what he’s doing? Since he seems to have been his worse critic. He didn’t even go down to the private workout. And from what I heard all last offseason Russell did everything the coaches asked. Why reported overwieght was really a mistake which was unforgivable.
But to say that means he’s lazy and doesn’t care is a real reach. So we’ll see if he’s grown some so far and only time will tell.
February 15th, 2010 at 10:03 am
so you guys are saying that if we upgrade the O-Line it will make Russell a much better quarterback. Also if we get the running game it’ll make his job much easier. I agree with both statements.
I’ve made it clear that IMO Satele, Carlisle & Green starting on the OL is a liability, not an asset.
Assuming both problems (they are connected) are solved, how much improvement can we expect from Russell? and isn’t it true that Gradkowski, Frye & Losman would also benefit from these changes?
The Raiders O-Line gave up 49 sacks last year. 33 of those were taken by Russell. 49 sacks in 16 games averages out to be 3+ sacks per game…
Russell will basically have the same WR corps. Possibly a healthy Chaz Schilens & Nick Miller, but Javon Walker is gone so Higgins becomes the “veteran” of the bunch. He had 3 TD’s and a whopping 17 turnovers last year.
What can we expect from him in 2010?
February 15th, 2010 at 10:09 am
There is an old saying you get what you pay for….
BRL is the exception to that rule…
February 15th, 2010 at 10:10 am
I expect BRL to flounder, flop around like a fish on the deck…
February 15th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Russell will be as good as the talent around him will allow………period.
Personally I much more prefer Frye over Grads just on size alone. I’ve watched Gards games over again and I just don’t see what everyone is so crazy about. Yes he’s athletic and has some moxy. He just doesn’t scream great to me by any stretch I’d much prefer Losman ove Grads based on arm strength experience and size. Upside Russell trumps all of them.
February 15th, 2010 at 10:12 am
My expectations aren’t pro bowl or any thing ridiculous like that.
I think Russell playing the exact same game he played in game 1 this past year gets it done. No real eye popping stats. Something like 15/25 230 yds, 2 TDs, a pick or so.
It’s the running game that I expect to make the difference. The way Bush and DMAC were used in game 1 was perfect. Should have won that game!
February 15th, 2010 at 10:13 am
I agree. I like the idea of Frye and Losman over Grads. Grads is too little!
February 15th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Louis Murphy, Will Franklin and Todd Watkins went to Alabama to work out with Russell for a “passing camp” around July 9th last year.
I wonder why Chaz Schilens, Javon Walker, Johnnie Lee Higgins, Nick Miller, Samie Parker, Arman Shields or Shawn Bayes didn’t want to attend ???
I know Darrius Heyward-Bey wasn’t under contract…
were these WR’s not invited? were any TE’s invited? were any other QB’s invited? was there anybody to organize this thing or were they basically hanging out playing catch?
February 15th, 2010 at 10:19 am
the key is interest.
JRuss has been working out so that he can fit into his King Elexis garb.
Once that gig is over, does he continue with a regimen to become more athletic, or does he retire to the front porch for a little R and R?
More than likely Russell will come to camp, be given the job (and the money) and then suffer a season-ending injury. Jonathan Paul Losman to the rescue!
February 15th, 2010 at 10:23 am
I think Russell playing the exact same game he played in game 1 this past year gets it done. No real eye popping stats. Something like 15/25 230 yds, 2 TDs, a pick or so.
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Russell was 12/30, 208 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT’s in Week 1 of 2009 … completed 40 percent of his passes
so you expect JR to throw for 3300+ yards and 17 TD’s in 2010?
3300 yards would be 18th in the league. 17 TD’s would be 20th in the league.
Thats not what I expect from my #1 overall draft pick in his 4th NFL season.
February 15th, 2010 at 10:25 am
Give Russell a running game and decent protection and he can get it done. Playcalling is an art you must know the strength of your team. Cable was derilict as far as understanding the strength of his team. He called plays that he should’ve known they would have a tough time executing with two rookie WR’s and a struggling QB.
I’m not sure how Cable kept his job. He let the Oline fall apart he doesn’t know who his best HB is and he doesn’t know how to utilize his talent.
February 15th, 2010 at 10:27 am
Russell was 12/30, 208 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT’s in Week 1 of 2009 … completed 40 percent of his passes
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I expect Murphy to catch the TD pass he dropped at the half. DMAC dropped 2 easy passes, and the hail mary INT at the end get wiped out.
February 15th, 2010 at 10:27 am
those are very low expectations with a fixed O-Line Jhill…
Gradkowski had 1007 yards and 6 TD’s in 4 games. If he stays healthy and starts 16 games in 2010 that comes out to 4000+ yards and 24 TD’s
which sounds better to you guys?
February 15th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Rockstar,
17 tds and 3,300 yds is helluva lot better’n 3 tds and 17 turnovers.
Klingler, Akili, Harrington, Couch, Leaf, Carr…some guys just aren’t good enough to make it in the NFL.
So, you take what you can get before they disappear.
February 15th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Jhill: too many “what-ifs” in your analysis
I need something that did happen to prove your points. not something that didn’t
February 15th, 2010 at 10:32 am
Jhill, read post#414 if that doesn’t tell how stupid these guy’s are then your on your own. This guy extrapulates out the STATS instead of understanding your point.
Why argue with these guy’s they just don’t get it. In all honesty I think he will be better than he was at that point. This kid is extremely gifted and it’s just a matter of him developing…………periood
February 15th, 2010 at 10:32 am
BHP,
exactly correct about Monsieur Cable Guy. Derelict and incompetent.
May Hue Jack be the answer.
February 15th, 2010 at 10:35 am
“What if” the WRs actaully catch the ball isn’t something to look forward to?
You don’t think that Murphy should have caught the TD pass at the half?
You don’t think avoiding a hail mary throw on the last play of the game avoids a pick?
Ok, well I guess we haven’t upgraded the Oline, Dline or MLB yet, so no need to talk about the prospect of it happening.
February 15th, 2010 at 10:36 am
if that doesn’t tell how stupid these guy’s are then your on your own. This guy extrapulates out the STATS instead of understanding your point.
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Priest: stats don’t lie. I post FACTS along with my opinion. now shut your mouth. come up with some valid reasoning for your own thoughts before you criticize something that actually makes sense.
February 15th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Jhill: give me something that makes you think Russell is capable of anything beyond 3300 yards & 17 TD’s.
something besides “the guys around him didn’t make a play”
please & thank you
February 15th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Jhill, post #423 see what I mean. They just don’t get it.
February 15th, 2010 at 10:44 am
RRS,,your opinion is freakin’ laughable. If you understand football. Momentum is everything, confidence is everything. Not having them makes a hell of a difference.
But of course that will make zero sense to you.
February 15th, 2010 at 10:45 am
Priest: Jhill is a good poster. He has reasons for what he thinks, believes and posts. he doesn’t just throw out some ignorant cr@p and expect everybody to take it as gospel
so don’t try to hide behind his shadow. if you got something to say, say it
otherwise shut up and be respectful
February 15th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Something like what RRS,
He hasn’t done it in the league before, so I don’t think you will believe it until you see it.
I think that you should have seen evidence of better play from Russell in the Denver game and the Ravens game. Getting hit from behind is a sign that we need better blocking, not lack of pocket presence.
Russell can hand the ball off just fine. He can hit the RBs and TEs with no problem. He can hit Chaz with no problem. He got better with Murphy.
The guy is already working on being in better shape
You see what you want to see man.
February 15th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Rockstar,
actually, stats do lie. or at least the story they tell isn’t always true.
a couple of years ago the Raiders had one of the top-rated pass defenses. why? it wasn’t because the pass D was fantastic, it was because other teams did not have to pass. worst run D and an Oaktown O that couldn’t score…but if the other team needed to pass it would complete any third down and go back to the run game.
Favre, Marino, Fouts, Moon, Testaverde – more’n a quarter of a million passing yards between them – one title.
Plunkett – barely more’n 50% completions, barely more TDs than picks – two titles.
February 15th, 2010 at 10:52 am
RRS,, it’s a waste of time talking to you guy’s I’m just trying to help my boy Jhill understand that. He made perfect arguments and you still can’t see past yur freakin’ nose what the hell would I waste my for. Pearls B4 swine. I rather put them around a beautiful Lady’s neck.
Now you see why I say the things I say Jhill.
They’re freakin’ clueless!!!!!!!!!!…….period
February 15th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Cmon guys …
Let’s not start the beer slingin already. Just because someone needs to be enlightened doesn’t make them not a Raider fan who really just wants to see the team do better.
February 15th, 2010 at 10:54 am
actually, stats do lie. or at least the story they tell isn’t always true.
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M: here’s what I was getting at
Russell is a turd (in my opinion). his stats prove that. his play on the field displays that
People are backing him and I want to know why. Besides the fact that he’s a Raider and Al Davis is paying him high dollar, what has he shown? What is he capable of that Bruce, Charlie & JP aren’t at a much lower cost?
thats where I was going with that comment.
February 15th, 2010 at 10:57 am
Priest,
I’d actually be a bit surprised, and maybe discouraged if guys weren’t in here bashing the play of the QB last year. I just choose to focus on the Oline, MLB, and nickle corner because so many others have Russell covered.
I don’t think anyone really doubts his “potential” but the fact that we are talking about non football realted issues impacting his game is ridiculous. They say perception is reality and it will never be truer than at NFL QB.
If Russell does all the things people talk about, he has the potential to be DAMN good.
We’ll see.
February 15th, 2010 at 10:57 am
man. y r u guys getting on rockstar. he is the smartest, most knowledgeable poster in here. if u guys cant see the vince lombardi like football brain rockstar possesses, there really is no hope
February 15th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Rockstar,
well, let’s just see if JaMarcus shows up in Alameda in his walrus costume, or revamped and decked out as a sleek and predatory leopard seal.
February 15th, 2010 at 11:03 am
He hasn’t done it in the league before, so I don’t think you will believe it until you see it.
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point well taken Jhill.
agree to disagree I guess.
some want to blame his supporting cast. Looking at his supporting cast doesn’t impress me but that doesn’t give him an excuse IMO. comments from his coaches & teammates in combination with the way Gradkowski & Frye played replacing him as starter makes me think he’s largely to blame for his own struggles. He had an owner & head coach who believed in him to start the season. they got him 2 of the best QB’s coaches available in Tollner & Hackett to help expedite his growth rate. and who would have guessed in Year #3 when most QB’s start to “get it” he’d actually regress? who would have guessed he’d sit on the bench in favor of guys like Gradkowski, Frye & Losman?
point is: Raider fans were expecting McNabb or McNair and they got Akili Smith or a 2007 version of Daunte Culpepper
February 15th, 2010 at 11:04 am
NE: whats up Gibson?
February 15th, 2010 at 11:04 am
RaiderRockstar, what is up dude it has been a minute.
I had to leave the blog for medical reasons. This team played so terrible that it raised my blood presure so high that I passed out at the keyboard a couple of times at work.
Russel does have the looks of a terd but he is the only terd we got that may be able to elevate his game as a QB. looking at a # of new QBs in this league very few pan out, or they take years to devfelop. I think people are hoping Russel develops. Vince Young was pretty terrible not to long ago. He is a decent player now. I think Bruce, Charlie or JP might be able to beat him now but I don’t think they have the ability to be anything more than back up QBs in the NFL.
I am not giving Russel any due because I do not think he was always prepared and his gut was wrong for any athlete not on the o-line. But I will say his blocking was bad as well. Gradowski is more mobile but in the end he got smashed as well. Frye and JP never carried a team before. Jim rat or not Frye sucked his whole career.
February 15th, 2010 at 11:05 am
LOL, Priest thinks he is being rational by claiming that Russell “just needs to develop” (I’ll skip quoting his childish and fatuous “……period” rejoinder).
Priest, Russell HASN’T been developing as a Raider, and those close to him in Alameda have made it clear his LACK of development is his fault. Coaches and players also tactfully point out that his slow development (both in executing plays and becoming a leader) is retarding the growth of this whole young offense.
February 15th, 2010 at 11:05 am
Open mouth, drooling, interception machine.
Prove me wrong BRL.
February 15th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Trade DMAC for a sleek and predatory leopard seal!
February 15th, 2010 at 11:07 am
CORRECTION!!!
I am not giving Russel any due because I do not think he was always prepared and his gut was wrong for any athlete not on the o-line. But I will say his blocking was bad as well. Gradowski is more mobile but in the end he got smashed as well. Frye and JP never carried a team before. GYM RAT or not Frye sucked his whole career.
February 15th, 2010 at 11:09 am
what is up dude it has been a minute.
I had to leave the blog for medical reasons.
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hey CJ! I think Dakota had to leave for the same reasons. you doing alright now?
February 15th, 2010 at 11:09 am
We have to wait 6 years for BRL to develop?
February 15th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Agree CJ,
Anyone saying Russell doesn’t have the biggest upside is not being rational. If your argument is he wasn’t putting in the work, well now he is. Now that that’s out of the way, as well as getting a play caller, let’s focus on upgrading the Oline!
February 15th, 2010 at 11:10 am
BRL is in yeaqr 4 of his contract, sanchez is in year.
Who would you rather have?
February 15th, 2010 at 11:11 am
RRS,
In rereading my above post, I have to ask…did I use the term “retarding” within the limits of acceptable use as specified by the Assn. for the Advancement of Retarded People?
February 15th, 2010 at 11:13 am
6 years to pay a guy 65 million to develop a work ethic???? Is that what we are developing???
What are we trying to develop a NFL QB????
What is BRL going to bring to the table besides a strong arm?????
QB’s are expected to come in and perform at a high level, See Flacco, Ryan, and Sanchez….
What do you think the NY Jets fan base think about sanchez????
Think it will take Ryan, Flacco, Sanchez, Clausen 4 years to develop????
February 15th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Sanchez and Russell are the same age …
February 15th, 2010 at 11:15 am
measure BRL’s progress against any of the QB’s drafted in the first RD since he was drafted, how does he stact up, and would you still prefer him?
February 15th, 2010 at 11:16 am
BoSJack,
do you think your dynamic efforts to get McF traded for any item or thought pattern in the known universe contributed to Dakota’s high blood pressure?
If so, you owe the boy in Hot Springs a bottle of Ripple at the very least.
February 15th, 2010 at 11:16 am
LOL @ the walrus “needing to develop”.
So does Shelley Duvall but it ain’t gonna happen.
February 15th, 2010 at 11:16 am
I’m tired of getting guys with potential & upside. I want something PROVEN.
just like Al wanted DHB for speed, he wanted JR for arm strength.
you can’t wait around forever for these guys to turn into football players. they need to take it upon themselves to improve & elevate thier game.
Jerry Mac said the same thing about both of them during camp last year. terribly inconsistant
this is the biggest stage in professional sports. can’t have guys that still don’t “get it” running the show and expect to win games even with all their many shortcomings. you have to win BECAUSE of your QB, not in spite of him!
February 15th, 2010 at 11:16 am
How many picks did Russell throw last year, year 1 as a starter, vs Sanchez’s year 1?
I don’t know about Sanchise. Rather have the kid from Detroit.
February 15th, 2010 at 11:18 am
Sanchez started 1 year at the world power, came out esrly to get the money…. I was hoping he stayed would have given the world power a better chance at the title.
That said he has been in the NFL 1 year.
BRL is going on year 4.
I would take Sanchez over BRL in a heart beat, not even close….
Age is of zero consequence…
February 15th, 2010 at 11:19 am
here BSJ. you’ll like this e-mail I got:
HARLEY BIKER
A Harley biker is riding by the zoo in Washington DC when he sees a little girl leaning into the lion’s cage. Suddenly, the lion grabs her by the cuff of her jacket and tries to pull her inside to slaughter her, under the eyes of her screaming parents.
The biker jumps off his Harley, runs to the cage and hits the lion square on the nose with a powerful punch. Whimpering from the pain the lion jumps back letting go of the girl, and the biker brings her to her terrified parents, who thank him endlessly.
A reporter has watched the whole event. The reporter addressing the Harley rider says, ‘Sir, this was the most gallant and brave thing I’ve seen a man do in my whole life.’
The Harley rider replies, ‘Why, it was nothing, really, the lion was behind bars. I just saw this little kid in danger and acted as I felt right..’
The reporter says, ‘Well, I’ll make sure this won’t go unnoticed. I’m a journalist you know, and tomorrow’s paper will have this story on the front page… So, what do you do for a living and what political affiliation do you have?’
The biker replies, ‘I’m a U.S. Marine and a Republican.’ The journalist leaves. The following morning the biker buys the paper to see if it indeed brings news of his actions and reads, on the front page.
U.S. MARINE ASSAULTS AFRICAN IMMIGRANT AND STEALS HIS LUNCH
That pretty much sums up the media’s approach to the news these days …
February 15th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Okay Jhill, I will take sanchez, flacco, ryan, the kid frm detriot clausen, Colt McCoy, and the ice cream truck driver over BRL…
February 15th, 2010 at 11:20 am
M Lonetree Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 11:16 am
BoSJack,
do you think your dynamic efforts to get McF traded for any item or thought pattern in the known universe contributed to Dakota’s high blood pressure?
If so, you owe the boy in Hot Springs a bottle of Ripple at the very least.
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Wow, that’s heavy… I am riven by guilt. I will get a bottle of said Ripple to Dakota ASAP. As soon as I trade DMAC for one!
February 15th, 2010 at 11:21 am
JHill,
needed : C, RG, RT.
Also FB. Without a legit FB the run game definitely suffers as do the third and medium distance conversions on swing passes.
Perhaps Hue Jack has some ideas to get a real FB on the squad.
February 15th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Back to lurking ltr…
February 15th, 2010 at 11:23 am
I will take sanchez, flacco, ryan, the kid frm detriot clausen, Colt McCoy, and the ice cream truck driver over BRL…
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thats asking a bit much Thec!
I’ll take Gradkowski, Frye, Losman, Tebow, Troy Smith, Tyler Thigpen, Trent Edwards or Brady Quinn …
February 15th, 2010 at 11:24 am
RRS, funny story. Of course the FOX NEWS headline would have been:
“DECORATED WAR VET SAVES GIRL FROM MURDEROUS GOVERNENT-FUNDED INSTITUTION”
February 15th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Agree M.
Think Reece can block anyone?
February 15th, 2010 at 11:25 am
trade JaWalrus for a pint of haagen-dazs!
February 15th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Think Reece can block anyone?
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Sam Williams or Jon Alston maybe …
Nixon & Norris for sure!
February 15th, 2010 at 11:28 am
gibson? again? don’t start with that rrs
February 15th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Well I’ll take the guys we have on the roster Thec.
The long overdue mandate of Russell being in shape should extend to EVERYONE on the team including Bush!
Russell being in shape, having a play caller, a decent Oline, and WRs who actually catch the ball will translate to some wins, IMO.
Russell out of shape, with Cable calling plays, a lousy Oline, and WRs who can’t catch translates to a bad offense.
February 15th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Sam Williams or Jon Alston maybe …
Nixon & Norris for sure!
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LOL!
I think you’re wrong about the youngsters though. Slade Norris is being groomed to me our MLB, watch! He’s going to be a monster!
February 15th, 2010 at 11:38 am
was reading on another site analyses of off-season needs for various NFL teams.
when it came to Miami there was declaration of great need at safety because Gibril Wilson was a monumental FA bust.
good to see Parcells got hosed just like da Raiduhs.
February 15th, 2010 at 11:40 am
JHill,
hopefully Hue Jack has some better ideas than simply dredging current practice squad FBs.
February 15th, 2010 at 11:42 am
I don’t know M,
I think it worked out pretty well for McClain or whatever that FBs name is from the Ravens.
I guess another late round gem like ONeal might be out there again though.
February 15th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Jhill, anyone and everyone criticised Russell for what he did last year including me. But I also see beyond the damn obvious. All these guy’s see is Russell. AS if every int was his fault every sack was his fault every offensive breakdown was his fault. In the stands everythingb that went wrong they screamed at Russell same as did with Gallery because they just see the obvious anything beyond that they’re blind at best.
Talking football with someone who actually understands the game is fun. Talking football with a 3 year old is not. And some of these guy’s aren’t much better than that. It’s very easy to criticise the QB if your a girl learning the game but I expect more from a man who’s been watching the game for 20-30 years. But you just don’t get it in here.
I expect more……..maybe way too much.
February 15th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Slade Norris is being groomed to me our MLB, watch! He’s going to be a monster!
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Jhill: Norris got cut. nobody claimed him. then he went to our practice squad. got elevated later because of injuries to Alston & Brown.
whiffed tackles like crazy in camp & OTA’s according to Jerry Mac if I recall. Frantz Joseph was the beast MLB you’re thinking of. just didn’t have “Raider speed”
February 15th, 2010 at 11:49 am
if we could get our o line to block properly, fb is not a great need. would rather see a 3 wr set most times. like dmac in the slot bush in backfield. lets face it, we are not gonna get anything done on offense unless we get the oline fixed. u guys can talk about how the offense moved better with frye and grads, you’re obviously right. however, they both got beat the hell up back there too. o line sux period. only olineman that had a decent yr was gallery. and if breaking bones and back surgery is decent, we need help
February 15th, 2010 at 11:51 am
I guess another late round gem like ONeal might be out there again though.
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OO was a beast. placed on IR in October. his ankle should be healed by now. give him another shot!
February 15th, 2010 at 11:51 am
BHP
Maybe you could educate Al Davis about football, too. He’s the General Manager who’s 29-83, not the bloggers in here.
February 15th, 2010 at 11:51 am
LOL at supposedly confusing Frantz with Norris …
I was kidding about Norris man, geeze.
February 15th, 2010 at 11:53 am
if we could get our o line to block properly, fb is not a great need.
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NE: what do you think about re-signing Langston Walker & Khalif Barnes?
February 15th, 2010 at 11:55 am
hey Kell. how was Valentine’s Day?
you take the wife to the bahamas to celebrate or what?
February 15th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
priesttj Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 11:47 am
I expect more……..maybe way too much.
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We’re still “developing”…………………….period.
February 15th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
i like walker. barnes lost me with the 1st play when he started at rt and completely missed the rusher. not a big fan of henderson either. i just hope they get the line fixed. it takes time getting an oline to gel and the more scrubs we keep bringing in the longer it is going to take. look at how good the jets o line is. over 30 consecutive starts together. maybe it was as high as 35. they said something in regards to that during the jets/colts game
February 15th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
rrs
what do you think of mike mitchell? lol
February 15th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
RR,
Had family in from Tucson this weekend. How about you, did you take your wife out for a tasty possum brunch?
February 15th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Mitchell > Gibson > Schweigert > Bates
February 15th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
i like walker. barnes lost me with the 1st play when he started at rt and completely missed the rusher. not a big fan of henderson either.
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LOL!
Most people blame Russell’s lack of pocket presence for that first play in the Jets game NE. They don’t even acknowledge Barnes whiffing on the block.
And Walker is an obvious upgrade at OG over Carlisle.
February 15th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
NE: so would you be in favor of re-signing Walker and having him replace Cooper Carlisle at RG?
what would you think if we let Green go? then we could re-sign Barnes and give him another crack at RT. He’ll compete with the rookie OT we draft 8th overall.
Henderson could compete with the rookie as well.
Satele = 16 game starter.
what are your thoughts? think we might win 10 or 11 games with these simple (yet important) moves?
February 15th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
How can anyone say Mike Mitchell is better than ANYBODY at this point? Pure nonsense as per usual.
February 15th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
shhhhh. Jhill. you see what i’m doing
don’t try to spoil the surprise!
February 15th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
How can anyone say Mike Mitchell is better than ANYBODY at this point? Pure nonsense as per usual.
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LOL
Ron versus New England
Round 1
DING !!!
February 15th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Obviously, some a ton slower than others and some of you are hopeless…………..period
February 15th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Had family in from Tucson this weekend.
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come on Kelly.
I thought you liked to travel and see the world?
You’ve got money to burn, why not spend some on the love of your life?
Don’t be cheap like Al Davis!
and how romantic is that? Valentine’s Day is great for some “alone time” with the Mrs.
Kinda hard to knock boots with your parents in the next room over, isn’t it?
February 15th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
BHP,
Al Davis is the 29-83 General Manager, not the bloggers, Priesttj
February 15th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
priesttj Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Obviously, some a ton slower than others and some of you are hopeless…………..period
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Sarcasm, look it up…………………period
February 15th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
RR
Who said it was my parents, who said they stayed in my house.
Mind you own business, podunk loser.
February 15th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Of course I do RRS!
And I just don’t get your fascination with Barnes. You know Cable is bringing Barnes back. He never got a fair shake due to his injury in training camp. Henderson FAR from has the LT position sowed up, so what makes you think Barnes won’t be given a “shot” at OT?
It doesn’t matter who you or I THINK should be on the roster, but I bet Cable’s opinion counts a little bit.
So we’re clear, again, I’d prefer to take Iupati in Rd 1 and a guy like Ciron Black in Rd2. Flanking Satele with Gallery and Iupati instantly upgrades out chances on 3rd and 2 or less. A Ciron Black type would be a nice prospect at RT.
But if we go MLB, DT or DE in Rd 1, Walker at RG and a prospect in rd 2 or 3 is what I would do.
February 15th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
RR
Who said it was my parents, who said they stayed in my house.
Mind you own business, podunk loser.
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Easy, old goat. RRS is understandably fixated on wife sex at the moment. He’ll get over that as he matures.
February 15th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Jhill: I didn’t misrepresent your thoughts in that post (above) did I ???
I know how you feel about the matter.
I was asking NE as a 3rd party for his input
February 15th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
well mine wasn’t…
February 15th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
He’ll get over that as he matures.
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BSJ,
I’m still “developing”…………………….period
February 15th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
priesttj Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Obviously, some a ton slower than others and some of you are hopeless…………..period
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Priest, is this a direct quote from Paul Hackett to our QB corps?
February 15th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
So if we disagree with you preist were hopeless???
February 15th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Al Davis is the single worst owner in all of pro sports. Therefore the Raiders will continue to be the worst run team in the NFL. All this talk of the draft and what the team SHOULD do is all fantasy because Al Davis no longer has the ability to identify team needs and adress them. Period.
February 15th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Raiderron…Agreed….
February 15th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Kelly: your 78 year old parents probably didn’t appreciate it when you woke them up at 9:15pm playing “pickle me tickle me” in the next room over for 45 seconds!
you’re in real estate. it’s called insulation
February 15th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Yes you did RRS. I never said because of those simple moves we would win 10-11 games. AND I never said Barnes would start at OT. Why are you talking about the backup OT(in my scenario) impacting a 10-11 win season. When did I ever say anything like that?
February 15th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Thec07,it depends on what you disagree with me on.
if it’s the weather maybe, if it’s the color of socks you should wea…no, if it’s something as simple as a QB has no blocking and no running game and no WR’s and is still learning the game. Should be great in his 3rd year. Absolutely!!!
February 15th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Raiders with BRL at the helm 5-11…
February 15th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
guessing raider ron never saw schwiegert gibson or ole pat bated play. rockstar: im not sure if we re-sign walker. he was good b4 he had that intestinal problem or whatever it was. then he went to buf and was a flop. carlisle i thought was the true weak link off the oline. yeah mop handle had his usually false starts. had some games in which he blocked well. but sux overall. maybe its scheme who knows. all i know is none off these guys make another teams starting line up
February 15th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
RR
My parents have been dead for years.
Now, You’re a podunk Security Guard, I sell Real Estate.
I’ve been around the world.
You’ve never been to Kansas City.
Get over it, as a white man you had every advantage. You blew it. Not me, ok?
February 15th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
,it depends on what you disagree with me on.
if it’s the weather maybe,
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LMFAO!
February 15th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
actually i cant remember much of bates either. i know he sucked, went to dallas and sucked more. we had him b4 directv came out. only seen a handful of games
February 15th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
I saw all of those bums play. They all sucked. Fact is there is no evidence that Mike Mitchell will ever be any better.
February 15th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Another dumbass post from another idiot!! post#502
February 15th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Preist, thats pretty arrogant… Him being great is a coplete opinion, or an assumtion on your part an nothing more. The fact about BRL state otherwise, as he has proven in 3 years he is not an NFL QB….
We go 5-11 this year, will you still stick with BRL?
Or will he need another year?
Go see flacco, sanchez, ryan… I will bet you clausen turns out to be better than BRL…His first year than BRL in his fourth…
February 15th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Jhill: last week you said we would go 11-5 with the following lineup …
Henderson-Gallery-Satele-Walker-Rookie/Barnes
meaning Barnes would COMPETE for the RT spot, not back it up. you even stated (in a different post) that Barnes would compete with Henderson at LT
and that Henderson could possibly be moved to RT
it’s alright though. like I said, I’m not rehashing last week’s debate
just asking for NE’s thoughts since he is also disgusted with the current OL!
February 15th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Mike Mitchell is already better because Marshall is smart enough not to drop him deep in coverage. Marshall is already better because his DC understands how to use him. He made more plays in half a season than I can ever remember those other guys making.
February 15th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
what would you like to bet Thec07/
February 15th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
as a white man you had every advantage. You blew it. Not me, ok?
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LOL!
February 15th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
So Thec07, you really believe that Sanchez was better than Russell do ya’?
February 15th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Preist we could put a C note on it…
The bet is we wont be over .500…
February 15th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Yep…
February 15th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Ron: what do you think of Mitchell’s cover skills?
February 15th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
No Thec07, you said Clausen would be better than Russell….right?
February 15th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
If you think Sanchez was better than Russell it is more than obvious that you have no freakin’ clue what the hell you’re looking at.
February 15th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Not trying to rehash it but directly bringing it up?
LMFAO!
Regardless of how you try and twist it, the lineup you post above even show Barnes as a backup.
I said I thought Barnes would be brought back, yes.
And the fact that Henderson was not good at LT, does it not make sense that if he was brought in to compete at LT last offseason, the same wouldn’t apply this offseason?
February 15th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Kell: inviting your sister and her family over to the mansion in the ghetto so you won’t have to spend any money on your wife is low. REAL LOW
did you even get her a card?
February 15th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Sanchez
Clausen
Ryan
Flacco
stafford
colt Mccoy
Sam Bradford
even
Tim Tebow
will be better at QB than BRL…
February 15th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Priesttj Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
If you think Sanchez was better than Russell it is more than obvious that you have no freakin’ clue what the hell you’re looking at.
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Priesttj
Al Davis is the 29-83 General Manager, not Thec07.
February 15th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Glad you think so, I’ll take it that you will gaurantee this?
February 15th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Priest it obvious to me that somehow you get paid to support the org…BFD…
February 15th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Priest has myopia of the walrus.
February 15th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
period.
February 15th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Go see flacco, sanchez, ryan…
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Go see them for what?
Flacco and Sanchez were NOT good at all. But their defense and running games sure as heck were.
Ryan was not the same player without Turner.
February 15th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
KK, post your stats but please don’t address that crap to me.
February 15th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Jhill: i’m not saying you’re wrong here man. I’m not sitting here laughing at your viewpoints.
I just asked NE if he agreed your your proposed solution.
whats wrong with that?
he basically echoed most of our thoughts. that Carlisle & Green are trash. but he didn’t say if he wanted Walker at RG or Barnes back. or even Satele for that matter
I don’t understand why you’re upset over this!
February 15th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Jhill, don’t spoil it for me. These guy’s are crazy. lol
February 15th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Priest the bet is this a C note that we wont be a .500 team… You asked me what I want to wager so that is it. since i dont know what I am seeing should be the easiest money you every make right???
February 15th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
jhill Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Most people blame Russell’s lack of pocket presence for that first play in the Jets game NE. They don’t even acknowledge Barnes whiffing on the block.
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Plenty of blame to go around on that play.
Cable with the most, for a terrible play-call on first down, first play of the game. Should have pulled him as play-caller right after that play.
Barnes is next in line, for completely wiffing.
Than Russell deserves only blame for fumbling. Should have been just a sack.
February 15th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
So Preist we play less than .500 ball you will view the season a success?
February 15th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Hilarious:
http://ffffound.com/image/fe64b63249732733199a6c6f7beacdf28b645713?c=4298718
February 15th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
So preist BRL does a face plant, and you will be saying what, “he just needs another year to develop”….lol
February 15th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Priest: you get owned by Kell in here every day
why do you bother coming back?
you like being abused by a realtor? go make an offer on a new home in SoCal
February 15th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Preist I bet your notcrazy enough to take that bet….
February 15th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Priesttj
Al Davis is working on a 29-83.
Had 3 winning seasons in the last 15.
And you’re blaming bloggers?
February 15th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
RRS,
First off, I’m not upset.
To me, it seems like you are not presenting the scenario correctly. You are implying that Walker at RG and RT is my solution to us winning 10-11 games. I never said anything close to that.
February 15th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
So if I am crazy prest take me up on the bet…
If BRL is at the helm this team will be sub .5000
I will bet you a C note on that….
February 15th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Jhill: last week you said we were going 11-5 in 2010.
retaining Walker & Barnes were PART of that process.
now please explain the part you obviously (perhaps on purpose) left out …
February 15th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Sanchez
Clausen
Ryan
Another bet for you preist,
Flacco
stafford
colt Mccoy
Sam Bradford
even
Tim Tebow
will be better at QB than BRL…
C note…
February 15th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
even tim tebow….lol
February 15th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
BRL has proven squat…
February 15th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Thec07, I”m not stupid enough to bet a record in February are you crazy? You keep boasting that Russell is garbage if you think so back it up playa.
February 15th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
I’ll take that bet Thec.
I say the Raiders win more than 8 games next year regardless of the QB.
I think we will see at least 2 new starters on the Oline.
I think the defense will be much better under Marshall in year 2.
I think Murphy, Chaz, DHB, and Miller are going to be really good.
I think having a play caller will make a big difference.
I think Cable not wearing so many hats is going to help.
And most importantly, we play the AFC and NFC West 10 times next year.
February 15th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
And I’ll DEFINITELY take Russell over Tebow for a hunnit!
February 15th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
I”m not stupid enough to bet a record in February
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you’re stupid enough to keep coming back in here every day to get your “butt” handed to you by Kell
betting on Russell wouldn’t be quite as stupid.
February 15th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Priest, you allready stated your opinion on my sanity… I get that I am crazy for diagreeing with the “great” semi-professional blogger Preist…
Until BRL proves otherwise he is garbage….
Nothin i see in him suggest NFL franchise 65 million dollar QB…..
The old adage you get what you pay for does not apply to this guy….
February 15th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Priesttj
What kind of football IQ does a fan need to understand his team is 29-83?
3 winning seasons in 15?
February 15th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
You got it Thec07 so that we’re clear all of these QB’s must be better than Russell in 2010. RIGHT??
Clausen, Sanchez, Flacco, Stafford, Bradford, McCoy, Tebow and Ryan. Now if they don’t start I win if they get benched I win if they have worse stats I win. They must play and have a better year correct?
February 15th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
That is a hard one as I wont root against us winning, so JHILL you are on. a C note if we come in at .500
or lower…. Word is bond…
February 15th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
KK, if that’s all they need to know that would make them no better than YOU.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
RR,
You don’t need to use my name to make your points.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Preist, we have to make it fair… We will say compare
all of the QB’s after 2 years of play to BRL’s 2 years of play…
February 15th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
RRS …
See response to Thec.
THAT is the scenario I said we would win 10-11 games under, and most importantly it was because we were playing KC twice, the Rams, Seattle, Az without Warner, and Dungver twice.
Why you KEEP bringing up Barnes being “part of the process” of an 11 win team is, well… it is what it is man.
You’re right. Barnes will be a part of the reason we win 11 games next year.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Priesttj
Sports is about winning, no?
29-83 is not winning. Why don’t you go and lecture Al Davis?
February 15th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
the “great” semi-professional blogger
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LMFAO!
That is hilarious every time you post that.
Semi professional bloggers … LMFAO!
February 15th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
I’ll take Russell over just about all of them except maybe Ryan. Tim Tebow, and this guy thinks he knows football…..ridiculous. Tebow might be on the practice squad….lol
February 15th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Ok, Thec!
C note it is on .500 or better.
If Green and Carlisle start, again, I’ll go ahead and concede week 1 and get you the cheese, lol!
February 15th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Sanchez
Clausen
Ryan
Another bet for you preist,
Flacco
stafford
colt Mccoy
Sam Bradford
even
Tim Tebow
will be better at QB than BRL…
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Ryan and Stafford I will give you.
But I’ll take a well managed Russell over the other guys.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Tebow is still developing…………………….period.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
rockstar
when r u going to stop with your mitchell cant cover bs. we’ve been through this. we have yet to see him have to cover. sure, we know the td against washington. and then i’ll say nnamdi was behind him, mm let guy go towards back of endzone to nnamdi. only nnamdi left toward middle of field just b4 the snap. cant cover or maybe blow assignment. then we had the game in which kirk chirped at mm for again missing an assignment. 2 plays that gained maybe 20 yards. i’d be willing to be if you go through all 16 games that the “injury prone mike mitchell ” played in he didn’t give up more than 5 receptions for well less than 100 yrds. not bad for a dude who cant cover. fact of the matter rrs, who knows if he can or cant cover. he is an in the box ss. one whose best ability seems to be a a blitzer/run stopper. right or wrong. get back at u later. dr’s appt
February 15th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
rrs
agree with u about the oline tho bro
February 15th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
It’s really amazing Jhill, how these guy’s have run Ruseell into the ground so much the can’t even recognize the kid. They’ve convinced each other to the point that they can’t see what kind of talent this kid has. Now that’s the kind of herd mentality that’s get’s innocent people hung.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Jhill, if Cralisle and Green start again I’ll go shoot somebody. Especially one of them.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
I’m going to hold you to that Priest, lol!
The foot should take care of it.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
priesttj Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
It’s really amazing Jhill, how these guy’s have run Ruseell into the ground so much the can’t even recognize the kid. They’ve convinced each other to the point that they can’t see what kind of talent this kid has. Now that’s the kind of herd mentality that’s get’s innocent people hung.
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Outside of you and Al Davis, who on this planet feels that Russell is getting a bad rap? His teammates, coaches, fans, media, etc. all feel Russell is GREATLY underperforming for this stage in his career.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Jhill,
are we not considered “Semi professional bloggers”?
Russell is a professional QB. we should be at the very least semi-pro bloggers!!!
February 15th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
If you are “on the clock” at this moment you are a professional blogger.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
BSJ,
Russell is getting a bad rap the same way Tui, Walter, McCown, Culpepper & Brooks did …
Can the “wintern” help turn things around for him? JaWalrus could learn alot from Danny Southwick.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Hey Bo, I’ll humor you this once. what in hell leads you to believe I don’t think he’s underperformed? just because I don’t agree with the Jadumbell crowd? Everyone knows he’s underperformed and I’ve admitted as much about a thousand times.
It’s the vast lack of comprehension in here that makes it seem otherwise. Underperforming and saying the kid doesn’t care are two very different things. Calling him lazy and stupid is waaay over the top IMO.
Underperforming to what degree is debatable.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
# jhill Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
And I’ll DEFINITELY take Russell over Tebow for a hunnit!
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I’m your huckleberry.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
With regards to the Raiders recently, EVERYONE has failed. The organization, the coaching staffs, the players, EVERYONE. As Head Coach and Q, you get the lion share of the blame. It comes with the territory.
Football is the ultimate team game. Someone was in here the other day saying how Jason Campbell would be a good choice at Q here. Jason Campbell is being booed out of Fed Ex Field. Jason Campbell has been in the league 5 years to Jamarcus’ 3. Jason Campbell has a very good veteran offensive line including a 6 time pro bowl left tackle in Chris Samuels. He has a Pro Bowl TE. He has a Pro Bowl running back in Clinton Portis. He has two high draft choice WR’s both of which have been in the league for 8+ years. Compare THAT to us.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
If you are “on the clock” at this moment you are a professional blogger.
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LMFAO!
February 15th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Will the O-line issue be fixed?
Does Al draft a MLB, or try to sign a FA?
6 pack or 36 pack abs when King Exlax reports to training camp?
Just three of the important issues facing the Raiders this off-season. I don’t have a clue to what may happen.
But, I know this. A 10lb. sack of flower, makes one hell of a big biscuit!
February 15th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Look who’s here:
The Pyschopathic Troll
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February 15th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
trade JaWalrus for a big biscuit!
February 15th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Russell is getting a bad rap the same way Tui, Walter, McCown, Culpepper & Brooks did …
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That is hilarious!
A bit of truth to it though for some of those guys. It wasn’t there fault man!
February 15th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
trade JaWalrus for Seabiscuit!
February 15th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Sorry TJ, but even JR admitted his sorryass was lazy.
what part of that confused you?
The coaches stated he was lazy..what part of THAT confused you?
the players said he walked between stations, while everyone else ran..each and every day at camp…what part of that confused you?
After THREE YEARS he STILL doesn’t know the whole playbook, by HIS admission, AND the teams…what part of THAT confused you?
Lazy and stupid is just one of many verified facts about JaMongoAss..
Speaking of stupid?? lol…dude..listening to you talk immediately conjures up inebriated fools on the corner, blathering on, making no sense…words being muttered…the language being buthered.
It’s obvious you never attended school..or dropped out very very early.
No wonder you hate to accept the fact JR sounds stupid..it’s how YOU sound.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Seymour, don’t get too rational with these guy’s it could blow a circuit. You would be liable. They think little Bopeep would be a better QB.
It’s scary in here Bro. not too much brain power.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Richochet Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
# jhill Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
And I’ll DEFINITELY take Russell over Tebow for a hunnit!
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I’m your huckleberry.
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I’ll even let you make sure he gets drafted, lol. How many years do I have to wait?
February 15th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Priest, I trust the pros on the JRUSS issue – his teammates and coaches do not feel like he cares enough. Some imply that, yes, he is lazy.
But who cares abou that? For you, his unique talent means the galss is half full. For me, the slim chance he will realize his talent means the glass is empty and in pieces on the floor.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
The questions you guys should be asking are is Darren McFadden going to be better? Is Michael Bush going to be better? Is the offensive line going to be better? Is Louis Murphy going to be better? Is Chaz Shielens going to be better? Can we get a good young Fullback in the draft? Can Heyward-Bey contribute? How do you integrate both Brandon Myers and Tony Stewart to take some of the pressure off Zach?
February 15th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
trade JaWalrus for a hunnit!
February 15th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
The questions you guys should be asking are
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Sey Bush: so QB play isn’t part of the problem or solution?
February 15th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Priest, I’m sure you are still waiting for Jeff George to develop. In your view, we just don’t see what kind of talent this (older) kid has. It’s the vast lack of comprehension in here that makes it seem otherwise.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
The questions you guys should be asking are is Darren McFadden going to be better? Is Michael Bush going to be better? Is the offensive line going to be better? Is Louis Murphy going to be better? Is Chaz Shielens going to be better? Can we get a good young Fullback in the draft? Can Heyward-Bey contribute? How do you integrate both Brandon Myers and Tony Stewart to take some of the pressure off Zach?
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Answers: Absolutely not; Yes; Yes; Yes; Yes; Yes; No; 2 TE sets.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
the players said he walked between stations, while everyone else ran..each and every day at camp…what part of that confused you?
After THREE YEARS he STILL doesn’t know the whole playbook, by HIS admission, AND the teams…what part of THAT confused you?
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When did they say that he walked between stations?
And you think it’s the same playbook for the past 3 years? Kiffin, then Knapp, then Cable, then Cable-Hackett-Tollner? Same playbook? Really?
And when did he admit he didn’t know the playbook? When did the coach say that? ANd please don’t quote a message from someone like Steve Young opening night.
If Russell didn’t know the playbook, why did Cable call so many passing plays? Why didn’t Russell have one of those wristbands with the plays on it?
February 15th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Why didn’t Russell have one of those wristbands with the plays on it?
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even Jake Delhomme would be insulted!
February 15th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Richochet,
What was the difference between Russell the previous offseason under Kiffin, and last offseason under Cable?
How does a guy go from being the example, to well, what he was last year, in just one year?
Haven’t been able to get a answer to that all day!
February 15th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
The fact that Jamarcus is so talented is what makes it even worse.
How can I guy with that kind of arm, put in 3 TD 17 turnover campaign? How could he screw up so badly. Bruce and Frye had to stabilize the position it got so bad.
Jamarcus Russell has set the bar for doing less with more.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
jhill Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Richochet,
What was the difference between Russell the previous offseason under Kiffin, and last offseason under Cable?
How does a guy go from being the example, to well, what he was last year, in just one year?
Haven’t been able to get a answer to that all day!
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Answer: Kiffin was, and is, a liar. It was BS. Satisfied?
February 15th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
The questions you guys should be asking are
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Sey Bush: so QB play isn’t part of the problem or solution?
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Obviously it is. But it is also not the end all either. Watching the replay of the SD game the lst game on Monday night, I see dropped passes, Dmac slipping, an offensive line that played well early getting beaten late, and a defense that gives up the game with 40 seconds to go. Can’t really blame the Q for all those woes.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
The questions you guys should be asking are is Darren McFadden going to be better? Is Michael Bush going to be better? Is the offensive line going to be better? Is Louis Murphy going to be better? Is Chaz Shielens going to be better? Can we get a good young Fullback in the draft? Can Heyward-Bey contribute? How do you integrate both Brandon Myers and Tony Stewart to take some of the pressure off Zach?
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Some how, it always comes back to Russell. Even if all those things happen in our favor, we’re still going 5-11, lol!
February 15th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
wow…LMFAO…IS SEYMOURGLEN MY OWN PERSONAL BEYOTCH..OR WHAT??
Post 131..I post…Seymour? NO WHERE to be found…
“Richochet Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 12:12 pm”
yet..WITHIN MINUTES HE POSTING TO ME ON POST 132.
Seymour Bush Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Considering he posted it WITHIN minutes, means either he sits there and refreshes..OVER AND OVER..waiting for me..or he has an alert set up, which is about as pathetic as you can get.
Now?? #579 I post…Seymour? NO WHERE TO BE FOUND..and there, immediately, he has posted..
Are you FREAKING SERIOUS? LOL…HOLY S**t..THIS SORRY PATHETIC FOOL has an alert set up for my name????
wow.
I have NEVER had anyone as that pathetic as seymourGlen, following me around, ever.
My own puppy…how sweet is that?
February 15th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Answer: Kiffin was, and is, a liar. It was BS. Satisfied?
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LMFAO!
February 15th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Bo, I challenge you to show me ONE quote where one of his teammates say he doesn’t care. One coach even. I talk to these people in private so ifthey don’t say that in private show where they say in public.
It’s you thinking tey’re saying he doesn’t care because I haven’t read one single quote saying he doesn’t care.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Watching the replay of the SD game the lst game on Monday night, I see dropped passes, Dmac slipping, an offensive line that played well early getting beaten late, and a defense that gives up the game with 40 seconds to go. Can’t really blame the Q for all those woes.
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Exactly!
February 15th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Raider like plays in game 1 …
Murphy dropping the TD pass at the half, and turning right around and giving up a big return to Sproles.
DMAC Fumble at mid field.
Giving up 3rd and 17s TWICE in the 4th qtr that led to TDs.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
# jhill Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
the players said he walked between stations, while everyone else ran..each and every day at camp…what part of that confused you?
After THREE YEARS he STILL doesn’t know the whole playbook, by HIS admission, AND the teams…what part of THAT confused you?
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When did they say that he walked between stations?
And you think it’s the same playbook for the past 3 years? Kiffin, then Knapp, then Cable, then Cable-Hackett-Tollner? Same playbook? Really?
And when did he admit he didn’t know the playbook? When did the coach say that? ANd please don’t quote a message from someone like Steve Young opening night.
If Russell didn’t know the playbook, why did Cable call so many passing plays? Why didn’t Russell have one of those wristbands with the plays on it?
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Where the hell have YOU been?
JERRY STATED IT HERE..pointed out how Garcia was setting a pace JR didn’t even bother to emulate. How if Garcia was brought in to show JR how to apply himself, JR could care less. Jerry also pointed out how, while others were running sprints, JR was standing at the water table, chatting.
And STOP with that ridiculous “new playbook”..new coor. rarely ever just DESIGN BRAND NEW NEVER USED BEFORE PLAYS. Sure there is a twist thrown in here and there, different formations, etc..but it’s not like everything starts over from scratch.
What? You read about how the players and COACHES stated they were only using a portion of the plays, and only exposing Russell slowly to new plays because he’s a Rhodes scholar??
February 15th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Here you go Priesttj:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4528142
February 15th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
why do people insist on looking at 3 or 4 plays during the course of an entire game or even season to say that “said player” is or isn’t doing his job?
people fail to look at the big picture. When a player has been awful for 3 years, it’s hard to present a scenario using 3 plays to describe the reasons why he isn’t …
People gave Andrew Walter a pass for 2006 because the O-Line and OC were atrocious. Yet for some reason Al Davis didn’t and he drafted Russell to be “the guy”
Russell has a better OL and OC. Given 3 years instead of 1. so whats the difference? Walter was out of football last year. Russell will bear the same fate and it won’t have anything to do with his supporting cast. strong armed Walter signed with the Patriots after Oakland cut him loose. failed to make the 53 man roster. they opted to roll with undrafted rookie Brian Hoyer instead (as Brady’s backup).
Similar to Russell being replaced by guys like Bruce & Charlie IMO
February 15th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Mock Draft No2:
Round 1: Rolando McClain ILB Alabama
Apart from Okung, none of the other LTs seem good value at No8. McClain fills a big need, is a high character leader who will galvanise the defense. A safe, sensible selection.
Round 2: Maurkice Pouncey, C/G, Florida
Pouncey is the best Center in the draft and he is also big enough to play OG in a ZBS. I think he would be a serious upgrade on Satele and Morris. Bigger, stronger and a winner. Not a flash selection but smart.
Round 3: Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale
We need a guaranteed RT. Henderson plays okay with Gallery inside but our right-side is a joke. Veldheer isn’t ready to play LT but he is just perfect to anchor the right-side.
Round 3: Geno Atkins, DT, Georgia
Atkins might drop this far because the Georgia defense was so awful. But he is much better than the stats show and would be a steal in the 3rd. Tyson Alualu, DT, California would be the option if Atkins has gone.
Round 4: Brandon Carter, G, Texas Tech
Ugly, mad and probably a few sandwiches short of a picnic, Carter is ideal as the next RG for the Raiders. Athletic enough and much stronger than Carlisle. The new Raiders right-side of Carter and Veldheer will become the stuff of legend and childhood nightmares.
Round 5: Rico McCoy, OLB, Tennessee
A surprise entry – most thought he would stay a Vol for another year. Still raw but a high upside and will certainly make a Special Teams contribution. Great value.
Round 5: LeGarrette Blount, RB, Oregon
I was hoping Blount’s boxing skills might drop him into the 5th – not sure that’s still likely. He has real talent. An alternative RB would be the under-rated Keith Toston from Oklahoma State but I might take a punt on Chris Marinelli, OT from Stanford and develop him into cover for Gallery.
Round 7: Jamar Wall, CB, Texas Tech
Not overly quick but strong physical and makes plays. A bit of a steal in the 7th.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Seymour and Jhill, what I’ve noticed that goes on a lot inhere is the interpret the coach saying one thing and take blind faith leaps thinking he means something else. When Cable says Russell is geting there and they wisjh it would cpome sooner they interpret that as he isn’t trying hard enough.
When the cach is just saying that’s what it takes for some players rather than others. They take worst possible scenario and paint it as fact.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
priesttj Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Bo, I challenge you to show me ONE quote where one of his teammates say he doesn’t care. One coach even. I talk to these people in private.
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You read as well as I do. Coaches and players speak in vagaries, but they all stressed that Russell could do more to be a leader, be more prepared, etc.
Also, if you talk to “these people” in private what are you doing wasting your time talking to us? I don’t trust you.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Priest, show me a quote from this season where Cable says Russell is getting there?
February 15th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
# priesttj Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Bo, I challenge you to show me ONE quote where one of his teammates say he doesn’t care. One coach even. I talk to these people in private so ifthey don’t say that in private show where they say in public.
RICHOCHET: you’re a liar. Bold faced snake in the grass liar. Yeah..well, I talked to Al Davis AND Cable..and both said the same..you lie.
Kiffin stated very clearly JR is NOT doing anywhere close to the things he should be doing. Cable stated the same, numerous times.
Quit with the idiot “ask a player” NO PLAYER IS EVER GOING TO GO PUBLIC, OR PRIVATE WITH COMMENTS ABOUT OTHER PLAYERS, you dumbass. Instead? ‘NO COMMENT’…See Chaz, and others, when asked about what they felt about Russell…’NO COMMENT’..only your ignorant ebonics challenged ass can’t figure out what it means.
Dude…the Raiders radio station LAUGHS AT YOU EVERY TIME YOU CALL..you’re a wannabee…someone so DESPERATE TO FEEL “IN”..and instead you’re laughed at.
Everyone knows it..so save the BS.
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It’s you thinking tey’re saying he doesn’t care because I haven’t read one single quote saying he doesn’t care.
RICHOCHET: reading, thinking, and talking are not your forte’..and likely never will be.
February 15th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Al Davis is solely responsible the Raider situation. Not the fans.
February 15th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Here is one more
“Man, it really seems like this kid’s head in stuck so far up his own posterior that he can’t see the light of day, or he just doesn’t want to play football. He has been called out by his Head Coach, teammates, the fans and the media, yet he HAD to get to Las Vegas in time to soak up EVERY ounce of Porn Week instead of showing up for the Oakland Raider’s last team meeting.”
You were wrong Priesttj
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2010/1/7/1238348/weighing-in-on-jamarcus-russell
February 15th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
priesttj = n0rco bob without the pain meds
February 15th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
If you go to the website Bo, and watch any press conference especially aerly in the year you’ll see him say it many times that he thinks he is getting better. He’ll say he can see it in pratice that he’s getting close.
I talk to players always because I want the truth. I talk to staff members who have blasted him and praised him and some who will refuse to comment. I have a great relatinship with a staff member who had a huge hand in drafting him. Who heavily criticised him but he never indicated that he didn’t care. he said he needed to live up to the reason they chose him. And I agreed but I sid to him what I thought was the problem and he didnt agree but he saw my point.
February 15th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
come on Luci!
the walrus was “excused” from the team meeting and he was accompanied in Vegas by a Raider staff member.
probably Randy Hanson. LOL
February 15th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let’s recap:
Plunketthead Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 11:02 am
I can still “see” Oakglen and many others screaming
IGNORE THE TROLLS
DAMMIT IGNORE THEM AND THEY WILL GO AWAY
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Who IMMEDIATELY shows up? The troll!
# Richochet Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 11:21 am
# Richochet Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 11:24 am
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So on Valentines Day, here is the loser troll here on a Raider site trolling! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 15th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Nice mock draft Scottish Raider
Round 1: Rolando McClain ILB Alabama
Round 2: Maurkice Pouncey, C/G, Florida
Round 3: Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale
Round 4: Brandon Carter, G, Texas Tech
Round 5: Rico McCoy, OLB, Tennessee
But unfortunately this is how Al will draft:
Round 1: Fastest 40 time
Round 2: CB
Round 3: WR
Round 4: Safety
Round 5: maybe here we finally get a OL or DL
February 15th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Lucifer, are those articles by players or the coaches or are they by FANS?
KK, shutup stupid, who’s blaming the fans?!!
February 15th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Sorry raider Rockstar
I forgot his Las Vegas trip was an excused absence
February 15th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
KK with his same old line in here everyday….
Priesttj
Jeff Garcia was saying Russell had poor work ethic and he was a teammate….
February 15th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Richochet …
I did missed Jerry talking about those things. I’m sure you can repost it for me. Garcia set a pace? I surely missed that one, lol.
Only time I read about the playbook being condensed was after the Houston game. Cable talked about running a group of plays that the WRs were comfortable with to try and get the passing game on track.
February 15th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Lucifer, can you post that comment?
February 15th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
So the trap is set!
# Seymour Bush Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
I mean it is Valentines Day. What better way to prove your manhood than to be “trolling” on the internet? Right Richy? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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And here comes our resident troll! he just can’t help himself! Whiskers twitching. Nose twitching, thinking to himself, “stupid oakglen, leaving peanut butter on that contraption over there. I’ll just help myself!”
Richochet Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Richochet Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Richochet Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
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WWWWWWHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!! Poor wack-o. He sees stars, his eyes are bulging out of their sockets, blood is oozing out his mouth. He walks right into the trap! But don’t worry wack-o nice way to spend Valentines Day, trolling by yourself on the internet! What a man’s man!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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# Nnamdi21 Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
132. Nailed it Seymour
# BadMoodGuy Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Richochet is a troll.
February 15th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Reality check:
When a coach says “so and so needs to do a lot more”?? MEANS THEY AREN’T DOING WHAT THEY’RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
Yeah..means they DON’T CARE.
Ok..let’s dumb it down.
Coach: “Players are expected to come into camp in shape.”
Coach: ‘Players are expected to learn the whole play book”
Coach: ‘Some players came into camp out of shape, and did NOT study like they were supposed to”
Reporter: “So..do you think those players are lazy, and don’t care”??
coach? What are you…stupid or something? IF YOU CARED YOU WOULD GET OFF YOUR LAZY ASS AND WORK OUT, AND STUDY..OF COURSE THEY DON’T CARE.”
that simplify it?
February 15th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
The Raiders problems go waaaay beyond JaMarcus Russell.
3 winning seasons in the last 15 years.
An immature QB in a dysfunctional organization compounds the problem.
February 15th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
I read a great comment by Garcia that I agreed with. When he said that Russell was being forced into a starring role that he didn’t think he was ready for. Now that I agreed with. Because they were trying to make him the focal point of the offense when I said B4 the season started that I didn’t think he could carry this team. Especially after Chaz went down. You can go back into the archive and read them.
I said we definitely need to emphasize the running game to even have a chance early.
February 15th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Very Nice Mock Scottish! I like those picks.
February 15th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Hey Guys
Would you guys do this trade, Chiefs switched to the 3-4, Dorsey is a three technique in 4-3, would you guys like to see Dorsey if we give them Jay Richardson.
Richardson is a DE who is best suited in 3-4, he can play the 4-3 but I don’t see that he is progressing. What you guys think of Jay Richardson for Dorsey trade?
February 15th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
An immature QB in a dysfunctional organization compounds the problem.
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KK, any “mature” QB’s you think could handle the pressure in Oakland?
February 15th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Yeah..well, I talked to Al Davis AND Cable..and both said the same..
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Richochet, you talked to Al Davis and Tom Cable about Russell?
February 15th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
And I’m saying the same thing this year B4 even minicamp. If the Raiders don’t make Bush the feature back and run the football as the focal point this team will struggle badly especially early. It’s just something that Russell needs to settle him down and open up the throwing lanes.
February 15th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
KK, any “mature” QB’s you think could handle the pressure in Oakland?
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Gannon & Gruden made it work despite the organization.
February 15th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
What you guys think of Jay Richardson for Dorsey trade?
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5th Rounder in 2007 for a 1st Rounder in 2008?
when did Jay ever played in a 3-4 defense? Ohio State?
February 15th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Gannon & Gruden made it work despite the organization.
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I know that Kell. what “mature” QB should we go after in 2010? Is he already on the roster? is he a free agent? should we trade for a guy?
February 15th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
I just don’t understand how Al Davis loyalists can come in here lecturing fans.
29-83. Hello!
February 15th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
# jhill Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Richochet …
I did missed Jerry talking about those things. I’m sure you can repost it for me. Garcia set a pace? I surely missed that one, lol.
Only time I read about the playbook being condensed was after the Houston game. Cable talked about running a group of plays that the WRs were comfortable with to try and get the passing game on track.
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Really?
Believe Jerry had it on here, and on twitter, which during the workouts is the only time I glanced at his or White’s twitters..just to see what was going on.
Especially about Garcia hustling, and, I quote: “Sprinting between stations” while “Russell not only didn’t jog, but walked”
Numerous comments by Cable, especially at the end of last year, and beginning of this year on not using the full play book.
When I’m bored, I’ll do a quick search.
February 15th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
I read a great comment by Garcia that I agreed with. When he said that Russell was being forced into a starring role that he didn’t think he was ready for. Now that I agreed with. Because they were trying to make him the focal point of the offense when I said B4 the season started that I didn’t think he could carry this team. Especially after Chaz went down. You can go back into the archive and read them.
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Exactly Priest!
You could see the flawed plan from the start yet we keep hearing all this because of Russell business. The PLAN was flawed from the start and immediately went downhill when Chaz went down.
February 15th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
KK, any “mature” QB’s you think could handle the pressure in Oakland?
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Gannon & Gruden made it work despite the organization.
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You mean despite the DIS organization and despite the old stubborn man Al Davis, who would rather LOSE his way instead of WIN somebody elses way?
What does that tell you about the old mans out of whack and looney mindset? Ugh…
February 15th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
During the brief success of Gruden/Gannon, Al Davis was on the sideline.
Which of course is why Davis ran him off.
February 15th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
ok Priesttj here is the quote and the link
“It was to a point where I felt like guys who walked through those doors that just were there to collect a check and not really interested in putting everything that they had within themselves on to the football field,” he said. “And that was the frustrating thing for me to see.”
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4528142
February 15th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Just post your stats and ignore everything else as always. KK wouldn’t know a player if he was in the HOF. A can’t miss for Canton would go over his head becauise all he can see is Al Davis.
February 15th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
# jhill Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Yeah..well, I talked to Al Davis AND Cable..and both said the same..
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Richochet, you talked to Al Davis and Tom Cable about Russell?
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jhill, there is blood coming out of wack-o’s face, and his eyes have popped out. Someone should just get a dustpan and put what is left of wack-o-troll in the dumpster out back.
February 15th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
I just don’t understand how Al Davis loyalists can come in here lecturing fans.
29-83. Hello!
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Crazy, whacked and stupid isn’t it?
February 15th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
When I’m bored, I’ll do a quick search.
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LOL …
Ok. I’ll be here.
February 15th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
“It was to a point where I felt like guys who walked through those doors that just were there to collect a check and not really interested in putting everything that they had within themselves on to the football field,” he said. “And that was the frustrating thing for me to see.”
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So you assume he was talking about Russell when he says “guys”? Maybe it was Green, Kelly, Walker, and Sands?
So was Kiffin lying about Russell being the hardest working guy last offseason? If not WHAT HAPPENED from one offseason to the next?
February 15th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
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February 15th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
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It’s crazy. Now, if Al Davis weren’t the GM of 29-83, I wouldn’t have a problem with him.
February 15th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
# jhill Says:
February 15th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Yeah..well, I talked to Al Davis AND Cable..and both said the same..
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Richochet, you talked to Al Davis and Tom Cable about Russell?
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LOL…if there was a sarcasm, and rolling eyes icon, would have inserted.
Was saying “Sure..TJ..you talked to everyone in private…SURRRREEEE YOU DID..what the hell, I did to…talked to Al”
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