Janikowski cashes in, will Seymour get tagged?

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, February 16th, 2010 at 1:42 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Whatever disappointment Sebastian Janikowski felt by missing the Pro Bowl after a deserving season was pushed into the background after he signed a four-year contract making him the NFL’s highest paid place kicker.

The terms, first reported by ESPN’s Adam Schefter and delayed here while problems were worked out for logging in to the blog software, are the same as punter Shane Lechler received last season _ four years, $16 million, with $9 million guaranteed.

“He is the best kicker in the NFL and the Raiders have recognized that fact by rewarding him with this monstrous contract,” said Paul Healy, the agent for Janikowski. “He loves it in Oakland and wanted to be there. Give Al Davis credit for stepping up an doing what it takes to keep him there.”

No confirmation from the Raiders, who usually wait until the contract is approved by the league before making an announcement.

Actually, the Raiders went ahead and confirmed the signing on their Web site.

A 10-year veteran, Janikowski’s run-ins with the law at Florida State and then with the Raiders, all which involved drinking, have become distant memories.

At a reunion in San Leandro hosted by Jon Gruden in December, Janikowski put in a brief appearance, mingling with some old teammates, drinking ice water with lemon and leaving early the night before a game.

Late in the season, I saw Janikowski headed towards his car in the parking lot, munching on a salad.

When I mentioned it to Lechler, he laughed and said, “he’s in a contract year.’’

While Lechler has been among the elite at his position since his rookie season, Janikowski has yet to make a Pro Bowl and until the last few years it was still up in the air as to whether he was actually worth the first-round draft choice Al Davis spent on him in 2000.

It took until this season for Janikowski, 9-for-10 between 40 and 49 yards, to bring his percentage up to 70 percent for his career in that range.

Tennessee’s Rob Bironas, for example, is 76.8 for his career from 40 to 49. Janikowski is 77.7 percent from that range (21-for-27) in the last four years, distances that are truly money kicks for NFL place kickers.

An elite NFL kicker, or any professional kicker for that matter, should be nearly automatic from 39 yards and in. Percentages normally begin dropping off at the 40-plus range.

From 50-plus, Janikowski is 25-for-51, including 6-for-8 this year, but his percentage suffers from some absurdly long attempts because of his range _ most notably the 76-yard prayer dialed up by Lane Kiffin in his last act as a Raiders head coach.

Next up for the Raiders is Richard Seymour, who can expect the franchise tag if he doesn’t first sign a long-term deal.

I’m expecting the tag rather than the contract.

Considering the $41 million Albert Haynesworth defensive tackle got from Washington last year, and the highest comps at defensive end _ $30 million guaranteed to Dwight Freeney of Indianpapolis and $31 million to Jared Allen _ giving a huge sum of upfront money to Seymour with a potential lockout in 2011 is a risky proposition.

Instead, the Raiders could pay Seymour the franchise figure of $12.398 million (or potentially more if he is an exclusive franchise player), lock him up again in 2011 and then not be on the hook for his salary should there be a work stoppage.

It’s also a legitimate question as to whether Seymour, seeking his last big contract at age 31, played at a level which earned him the kind of money in the Haynesworth-Freeney-Allen realm.

There were times when Seymour looked like what he was in New England _ one of the NFL’s best defensive players and an unblockable force up front. There were other periods where Seymour’s presence did little to prevent Oakland from being among the most porous run defenses in the NFL.

Wisniewski talks with Redskins

Steve Wisniewski, the former Raiders guard who has expressed a desire to return to coaching, has interviewed with the Washington Redskins for a position as an assistant offensive line coach under head coach Mike Shanahan and line coach Chris Foerster.

Wisniewski was a rookie with the Raiders in 1989 when Shanahan was an in-season casualty of Al Davis, replaced by Art Shell. He has spent time in training camp with the Raiders as observer and you wonder if Wisniewski couldn’t conceivably a candidate for the same position in Oakland, given his good standing wit the organization and ties with the community.

Meanwhile, Washington has hired Paul Kelly, a former coaches’ assistant to Jon Gruden in Oakland and Tampa Bay and to Bill Callahan in Oakland, as the administrative assistant for Shanahan.

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Back up. Back up. I never once said that Cowher and Caldwell make “all” of the decisions. I never insisted that any head coach makes all decisions, although I did say it’s possible that some do. “thrown the keys”, I believe, is the phrase I used. Don’t put words into my mouth, Seymour. It’s a cheap way of winning an argument. All I said was that I believe most coaches in the NFL have more control than Tom Cable. Your attempts to convince me otherwise have been unsuccessful. In fact, to use your word, they’ve been “silly”.
jhill

So RMR,

I think to a degree, you are right about Al Davis having an influence on scheme. But it is overstated. Fact of the matter is Ryan was installing the 3-4 until it was plaily obvious Sapp couldn’t play DE.

Last year, we played man, zone, blitzed, had Nnamid at S, moved Scott around, dropped our DT into a zone, and all kinda things. Certainly ran a lot of man though, as we should.
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Ron Wolf is the prototype, not Bruce Allen.
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Steve, I don’t recall a lot of criticism for drafting Nnamdi. Who do you mean specifically when you say “nobody” thought it was a good idea? I was well aware of Nnamdi and thought it was a great pick from the get go, and I never watch college football. I’m also usually skeptical of Al. I’m as lay as you can get on college players and drafting. And I knew Nnamdi would be great. Guess I’ve got great ideas, too. Hate to burst your bubble, though, but I just didn’t see the criticism you’re talking about in response to Al drafting Nnamdi, and that Al somehow went on a limb with that brilliant idea. It was common knowledge Nnamdi was a player. That’s right up there with the myth that Al Davis picked Gruden out of the rough. He was well coveted for a couple of years before we hired him.
Seymour Bush

Of course Jhill, in the last SEC championship game Urban Meyer was running man coverages trying to win and move on to the National Championship game. But hey, it’s an antiquated system that no one would use anymore, right?
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JHill, I didn’t see that zone defense you’re talking about. We used a lot of 2 man under, as we always do. We used a lot of cover 1 in that first game against SD, which worked like gangbusters. It could be our defense, and, it is a man defense. But you still have to mix in other coverage shells to keep the QB guessing. We ditched that cover 1, anyway. Heck, we ditched it that game, and went to a prevent and allowed SD to march right downfield for the win. Thanks, Al.
SteveAlford21

@jhill:

Yes, Gradkowski played five times better than Russell. Did you happen to notice that Grad got the ball out quickly, knows how to use his feet, can read both sides of the field, throws his passes with much more accuracy, knows the playbook, has the ability to lead a team, and generally did everything on a football field MUCH better than JR did.

Did Gradkowski go 6-0 in starts? No. Does that have any bearing on whether or not he played better than Russell? No. I wouldn’t care if we had lost all of the games that Gradkowski started last year, I would still say that he played a ton better than #2 and an offense has a much greater chance of success with #5 than with #2 this season, unless JR does a WHOLE LOT of work and improves nearly every aspect of his game. Seriously, how could you watch Russell and Gradkowski and NOT think that Gradkowski played much better? Just the fact accuracy, reading both sides, and getting the ball out quickly… just those three things make Gradkowski’s play last year at least 5 times better than Russell and his 2-9 TD-INT ratio and his too many fumbles to count.
Seymour Bush

# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2010 at 11:24 am

JHill, most the head coaches of most Super Bowl winning teams were heavily involved with personnel decisions, if not given the keys outright.

The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2010 at 12:24 pm

Back up. Back up. I never once said that Cowher and Caldwell make “all” of the decisions.
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So what does given the keys outright mean?
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Al Davis picked Gruden out of the rough. He was well coveted for a couple of years before we hired him.

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Had he interviewed with anyone before we hired him as HC? Yes, Al Davis.
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Seymour, you’re just making me laugh, now. You’re not going to use a college football team to explain Al’s overuse of the man defense in the NFL, are you? Please tell me you’re not.
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Bo, we were floating a youtube video around here a couple of years ago when this debate came up. It’s from the 2007 season, in a pregame show, where Fox’s Jim Brown is giving a run down of all of the teams interested in Gruden. The Raiders were just one team on a list of about 5 teams. Gruden was one of the hottest assistants in the league when we hired him, Bo. I don’t think that youtube exists anymore, as I tried to find that video to refute someone else a few months back who was acting as if Gruden worked at McDonald’s when Al discovered him.
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Excuse me…the Gruden youtube video, with the fox news pregame show talking about teams looking to hire him, was from 1997, not 2007.
SteveAlford21

RMR:

I’m going to have to google now in order to find specific articles, but I remember a bit of criticism for drafting Nnamdi in the first round (no one said he sucked, just that it was a stretch to take him 31st overall) and a LOT of criticism for moving him to Corner in a primarily man-to-man defensive backfield after he’d played his entire college career at Free Safety. This was all six years ago, of course, so I’ll have to do some digging and hardcore searching to try to find some links.
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Seymour Bush, given the keys means complete control, but I still only said it’s possible. I didn’t say it’s a certainty. And I never mentioned anyone by name.
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Have fun with the google search, Steve, because I just don’t recall it. I only remember praise when Nnamdi was drafted.
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And, now it’s “a bit of criticism”? You said “nobody” believed in Nnamdi, but Al. Now you’re backpedaling and saying that there was a few people criticizing it? Come on. Al Davis did not go out on a limb to draft Nnamdi Asomugha. It was not some outside the box, brilliant idea. It was a good idea, but not exactly brilliant as everyone knew he was good. It was about as brilliant as picking up a 100 dollar bill off the ground. Oh, boo yah!!!
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1. There was definately a lot of head scratching when Al picked Nnamdi.

2. Gruden had interviewed with Al Davis several times before we hired him. There is no evidence he interviewed anywhere else for HC before Oakland.

3. Other innovative Al ideas from the last 10+ years: suggesting Gruden consider Gannon; signing Rice when he looked done in SF; suing Oakhole; reinventing Lincoln Kennedy…
Nnamdi21

jhill Says:
February 17th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
So RMR,

I think to a degree, you are right about Al Davis having an influence on scheme. But it is overstated. Fact of the matter is Ryan was installing the 3-4 until it was plaily obvious Sapp couldn’t play DE.

Last year, we played man, zone, blitzed, had Nnamid at S, moved Scott around, dropped our DT into a zone, and all kinda things. Certainly ran a lot of man though, as we should.

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Correct.

The notion that we run a vanilla man defense the majority of the time is incorrect.

Per Davis’s philosophy, we mix in alot of things.

Often I disagree with zone where we drop a DT. I’ve yet to see Gerard Warren pick one off or even defense a pass in coverage.

Saw more effective blitzing last year under the Marshall plan and it was fun. Got burned by it a few times too, but seeing 2 LBs, corners, both safeties and combos of all of them was pretty good.

Didn’t get there everytime, but pressured well.
SteveAlford21

Okay, all the relevant search terms still turn up millions of articles all dated THIS year alone, so I give up on trying to find ones from 2003. The point is that I clearly remember a lot of media criticism for switching Nnamdi to a cover corner after he had only played free safety at Cal.
Nnamdi21

717. The old man gets scorn when his ideas flop (and when his decisions cost us 7 yrs of losses) but doesn’t seem to get = amounts of credit for his successes. Probably might if they’d resulted in wins the last few years…
Nnamdi21

SteveAlford21 Says:
February 17th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
Okay, all the relevant search terms still turn up millions of articles all dated THIS year alone, so I give up on trying to find ones from 2003. The point is that I clearly remember a lot of media criticism for switching Nnamdi to a cover corner after he had only played free safety at Cal.

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The days of things staying posted forever are gone.

Nets being purged.
Seymour Bush

# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2010 at 12:39 pm

Seymour Bush, given the keys means complete control, but I still only said it’s possible. I didn’t say it’s a certainty. And I never mentioned anyone by name.
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RealMadden Raider you are turning into Richard Simmons before all of our eyes. You are flaming here dude.

When the Raiders drafted Nnamdi in the lst round, there were a LOT of raised eyebrows. And that was a Davis pick. But of course so were Napoleon Harris and Tyler Brayton.
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SteveAlford21

And I admit that I used a bit of hyperbole when I said “no one” thought he was a good pick, but then in the same sentence, I clarified by saying especially with the intent to move him to cover corner. The fact that we drafted him in the first round in order to move him to a position that he’d never played and that entailed very different responsibilities than the only position he’d played in college WAS criticized and the “no one” there IS accurate in that I can’t recall a single person in the media saying anything positive about drafting him with intent to move him to a cover corner. I’ll give you a C-note if you can find a single article from ’03 that praises drafting Nnamdi at 31 overall AND mentions converting him. You might find a couple that say it was a good pick, but I bet you won’t find any that say he was a good pick for use as a cover corner.

No matter how you say you remember it, there wasn’t any praise for that. Do you realize that it was 2006 before he got his first interception? You seriously don’t remember ANY of the criticism between the ’03 draft and a ’06 about how he was a wasted pick? I suppose you don’t remember any of the talk about Huff being a bust between the ’06 draft and this past season when it stopped? Now that Huff appears to be turning the corner and becoming a good NFL player, that talk seems to be over, just as it ended for Aso. I guess if Huff becomes a Pro-Bowler in a couple of years, you’ll say that there was never any criticism of him being taken at 7 overall and that no one ever said he was a bust and that the past four years of smacktalk about him being a wasted pick DIDN’T happen, right?
jhill

Alford,

It’s pointless to debate Russell. Agree with you on some of your points related to him, but I think the point is the offense being better. The offense, IMO, was not any better with Grads or Frye than it was with Russell. That’s more of an indictment of the OL and young WRs than it is Russell, Grads, or Frye.

Grads is much more mobile than Russell so of course he played “faster” and made the OL look better. Vick would do an even better job of playing faster, but I don’t want him either.

I don’t buy the didn’t know the playbook angle. Russell was benched for not getting the ball to the WRs. He didn’t even look DHBs way. There was no time to look at the whole field. Our Oline was horrible. Standing in the pocket letting plays “develop” got Grads and Frye knocked out of games!
jhill

Yeah …

The bust talk of Nnamdi prior to his 1st pick was right up there with Russell, Gallery, and Huff.

And as soon as Russell wins the division next year, he’ll be loved just like the rest of those guys, lol.
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John Mellencamp for Senator!
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This is our country…
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Personally I don’t think Nnamdi is as good as everyone thinks.

I think he is good, don’t get me wrong, but I think that he is more of a product of teams simply not having to challenge him because of our inability to stop the run and score points.

If teams had to go at him they could have success against him, they just don’t have to so why bother?

He is good, just not HOF good.
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Mellencamp is cool. He was on Bill Maher and Maher asked him why he sold out, with the truck commercials. Mellencamp said that’s the only way his music will be heard anymore. Got to respect the grounded honesty. Cool guy.
SteveAlford21

jhill,

How can you say that the offense wasn’t better with Gradkowski than it was with Russell? The offensive production went up in every positive category, especially the one that matters most: points per game. Are you going to attribute that to the fact that Gallery was back from injury for most of Gradkowski’s snaps? If so, then I counter with the question: Then why hasn’t the offensive production for every JR start in which Gallery played been up to the level of the production in the Gradkowski games where Gallery played?

All other things being made equal (or looked at when they are as close to equal as possible), Gradkowski played much better than Russell. Receivers dropped passes for Gradkowski, too. The difference is that Gradkowski drops primarily hit the receivers in the hands and in stride and were flat drops; Russell drops were primarily thrown behind receivers or way over their heads, causing them to try to adjust wildly at the last second. There were a FEW flat-out drops for Russell, but most of the drops were caused by bad throws. I’m surprised he didn’t get someone killed with the passes behind guys over the middle (to WRs on crossing routes AND to backs on checkdowns). There were several times when I thought we’d lose players for the year after #2 hung someone out like that.
DMAC

He got Miller and JLH killed!
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OK, guys, even though I don’t remember the widespread criticism of drafting Nnamdi, I’ll give you guys that one, anyway. Steve, I believe, said that Al still has a lot of great ideas. Today, Bo, not 10 years ago, when he hired Gruden. What do you see with this Raider team now that you can attribute to Al Davis’s “great” idea? To ANYONE’S great idea, for that matter? It seems to me the only thing Al Davis is capable of doing anymore that’s great is keeping a larger consumer base than most owner with his performance would have, due to brilliant marketing…the “Raider Nation”, family approach to Raider fanaticism. That is a good idea, because it’s all that saves him from seeing completely empty stadiums on Sundays.
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Starting Gradkowski won’t improve anything. He’ll just get injured early in the season, due to our line and our playcalling, which is about the worst offensive playcalling where protecting the QB is concerned. Russell is awful. But the one attribute he does have is that he’s big, and can sustain the hits that a QB has to take in our offense. Gradkowski can’t. That’s why he finished the season on the bench.
http://none The Real MaddenRaider

Without a completely overhauled offense, with a new offensive line, a QB like Gradkowski is useless.
SteveAlford21

I personally believe that hiring Marshall as DC was a great decision when most people assumed that Al would just extend Retard Ryan’s contract (because they were all buddy-buddy and Ryan had Al’s total support no matter how badly he screwed up and no matter how many games he blew by going to prevent with 13 minutes left and a five point lead). That hiring seemed to be a brilliant move by me… and will show more fruit when Al allows Marshall to blitz more and use more exotic schemes. Progress was made there this year, but I think more will come. Now, how many prognosticators were calling for teams to hire Marshall as a DC before we did? Was that common thought and was it just a “duh” move by Al, too?
jhill

Alford,

The point is the offense didn’t do anything with Grads back there. You say you don’t care if we went 0-6 with him back there? Well that’s kinda the point man.

The last 2 times we saw Russell in a game, he looked much better than he did earlier in the year. Won the Denver game, and looked good against the Ravens except for when Henderson was getting beat like a drum.

Our offense was bad with Grads, bad with Frye, and bad with Russell.
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Garbagekowski isn’t the answer…

Career stats: 279 for 523, 53.3 comp %, 2,824 yards, 15 TDs, 16 INTs, QB rating of 65.9

Last year in his “great year” Garbage complete 54% of his passes….Shaq has had better free throw shooting percentages than that in the past.

Just because he looked better than Russell doesn’t make him the answer…it just makes him a slightly better smelling POS QB.
DMAC

(Your the GM, and want to select a QB in this years draft.) Who do you draft?
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I bet Clausen doesn’t get a 65.9 rating for a season…
SteveAlford21

RMR,

Hue Jackson has experience with offensive systems that protect young QBs. Now that he is in charge of calling the plays, I believe there will be fewer big hits even though the line still sucks (as of today, before draft or Free Agency improvements… hopefully). The offensive philosophy will become one that should reduce injuries to the QB. Having said that, would you rather have Russell in there taking fewer hits and making bad throws or Gradkowski in there taking fewer hits and making good throws or finding yardage with his legs? Even if Gradkowski gets injured, I’d rather have him start the game and leave with a tie or small deficit in the second half than have Russell start the game and be down by 21 at halftime. Russell’s only good work last year (after the opener) were in games in which he came off the bench. Even then, it took some good luck on 4th-and-forever plays for him to get first downs. The bottom line for me is that I’d rather have Gradkowski behind ANY line (good, bad, or ugly) than JaMarcus… at least until #2 proves that he has a commitment to the game and to improvement… and learns how to read both sides of the field.
jhill

Are you going to attribute that to the fact that Gallery was back from injury for most of Gradkowski’s snaps? If so, then I counter with the question: Then why hasn’t the offensive production for every JR start in which Gallery played been up to the level of the production in the Gradkowski games where Gallery played?

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The offensive production was very good in game one for the offense with Gallery in there. Dropped TD pass by Murphy at the half, and the DMAC fumble spoiled our offensive production.

Gallery got hurt in game 2. We won that game, right? Russell was awful right up until the final drive.

Offense was no where to be found once Morris stepped in for Gallery. No running game, and no pass protection. Not to mention Green going down too. Amazingly, Green was better than Pears and Barnes. How long did it take Satele to learn the blocking assignments, lol?

We all know Russell has to “work harder”, but we also know that Russell has more talent than Grads. And we also know that the Oline, WRs, and play calling were all just as bad, if not worse than Russell was last year. They were all awful.
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Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 17th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
I bet Clausen doesn’t get a 65.9 rating for a season…
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Yeah, I too seriously doubt he will ever have a 65.9 passer rating…it will never fall that low.
SteveAlford21

Again, jhill… how can you say that the offense didn’t do anything with Gradkowski? Look at the production with Gradkowski versus the production with Russell. Every category went up drastically, including almost TWICE AS MANY POINTS PER GAME. You can’t call that “not doing better.” I’m not saying to cut JaMarcus. I say to give him his shot one last time. Find out if the improvements he showed can be built upon and see if he can dedicate himself and learn to be a quality NFL QB. But I think that camp should be an open and fair competition and based upon what I’ve seen so far, Gradkowski is the guy at this moment. Unless #2 proves otherwise in camp, I say Gradkowski should start the season.
jhill

Last year in his “great year” Garbage complete 54% of his passes….

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Exactly!
jhill

I’m not saying Russell should be the starter Alford. I’m just saying that Grads should NOT be the guy. I’d prefer Losman.

And again, the offense didn’t produce man. I don’t care what the stats say. The Cincy game? He has 100 yds passing until the last drive. Got lucky with a dropped pick and STs fumble.

6 pts going into the 4th qtr at Pittsburgh and then the luckiest 4th qtr in years.

Grads is not the guy man.
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OK Dakota. Clausen will be a stud.

Now relax and take it eeeaaasssyyyy. Maybe hire some counter help for the shop?
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“luckiest 4th qtr in years.”

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It was Stableresque. Grads does appear to improve under pressure, say what you will about him. It wasn’t simply luck.
SteveAlford21

This just in: Stallworth was signed by the Ravens.

Thank goodness we didn’t pick him up. To be honest, I was a little afraid that we would. Wouldn’t that have been great? Stallworth and Javon Walker as a tandem… on the bench, only here to “mentor” the young guys and contribute nothing of value. I knew that there was no logical reason for us to go after Stallworth and no need to do it considering the price vs. value for him… which is why I was so scared that we WOULD go get him. *whew*
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