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]]> By: names2long http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2010/02/16/janikowski-cases-in-will-seymour-get-tagged/comment-page-16/#comment-253551 names2long Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:58:47 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=9806#comment-253551 Spending $8 million a year on a kicker and a punter??!!!! Yikes!! Al must have accidentally added a zero to the figures when presenting Shane's contract and forgotten to fix the error with Sea-bass's...lol.. Seriously, $4 million a year for both will get you the cream of the kicking crop, and the other $4 million could buy someone to stop the run (which might actually help this team win some games). Spending $8 million a year on a kicker and a punter??!!!! Yikes!! Al must have accidentally added a zero to the figures when presenting Shane’s contract and forgotten to fix the error with Sea-bass’s…lol.. Seriously, $4 million a year for both will get you the cream of the kicking crop, and the other $4 million could buy someone to stop the run (which might actually help this team win some games).

]]> By: RaiderDebo http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2010/02/16/janikowski-cases-in-will-seymour-get-tagged/comment-page-16/#comment-253111 RaiderDebo Wed, 17 Feb 2010 23:03:19 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=9806#comment-253111 Steve, the same OL got Grads knocked out for the year. The guy doesn't have the physical stature or tools to start in this league. It's not like he hasn't had his chances. And he played with Chaz during all his starts and DHB for only two of them. If you really want to compare appples to apples, how did Grads do in relief appearances agaisnt the Jets and Kansas City? Grads didn't lead the offense to ONE point. Those are the only two instances where you can say he played with the same supporting cast as JR. Tell me one thing you liked about his performance against the Cowboys? Steve, the same OL got Grads knocked out for the year. The guy doesn’t have the physical stature or tools to start in this league. It’s not like he hasn’t had his chances. And he played with Chaz during all his starts and DHB for only two of them. If you really want to compare appples to apples, how did Grads do in relief appearances agaisnt the Jets and Kansas City? Grads didn’t lead the offense to ONE point. Those are the only two instances where you can say he played with the same supporting cast as JR. Tell me one thing you liked about his performance against the Cowboys?

]]> By: SteveAlford21 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2010/02/16/janikowski-cases-in-will-seymour-get-tagged/comment-page-16/#comment-253102 SteveAlford21 Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:56:28 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=9806#comment-253102 Just to clarify, I'm not defending the offensive line, either. They suck and are all scrap-heap castoffs. We need massive upgrades on the offensive line. I was just saying that you can't use the offensive line to excuse JR's troubles when Gradkowski was behind the same line and performed much better. The O Line sucks, DHB can't catch, and DMAC tackles himself and then strips the ball from himself on his way down. Those are all problems. The fact that those problems exist doesn't take away from the fact that Russell is a problem, too. I know you want to defend your guy, but the numbers don't lie. Wins, completions, touchdowns, third down conversions, first downs... in every way except height, weight, interceptions, and fumbles... Gradkowski gives us more than Russell does. Just to clarify, I’m not defending the offensive line, either. They suck and are all scrap-heap castoffs. We need massive upgrades on the offensive line. I was just saying that you can’t use the offensive line to excuse JR’s troubles when Gradkowski was behind the same line and performed much better. The O Line sucks, DHB can’t catch, and DMAC tackles himself and then strips the ball from himself on his way down. Those are all problems. The fact that those problems exist doesn’t take away from the fact that Russell is a problem, too. I know you want to defend your guy, but the numbers don’t lie. Wins, completions, touchdowns, third down conversions, first downs… in every way except height, weight, interceptions, and fumbles… Gradkowski gives us more than Russell does.

]]> By: SteveAlford21 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2010/02/16/janikowski-cases-in-will-seymour-get-tagged/comment-page-16/#comment-253096 SteveAlford21 Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:49:44 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=9806#comment-253096 I wasn't taking the win away from him, merely stating that it took getting a miracle completion on fourth and forever to keep that drive going. Given JR's completion percentage, there's no arguing that it's a miracle that he converted, especially since there was heat in his face. If Russell has such amazing qualities in his "arm strength, accuracy, physical toughness and his ability to overcome extreme adversity," then why was his record such horrible crap and why were his only decent performances after game 1 last year in relief appearances? If he's really such a great QB like you're trying to imply, then why did he produce so little when Gradkowski produced double the numbers with the same offensive line? You can't blame the O Line for it all when someone else stepped in and beat playoff teams (except Pittsburgh, who fell off after the SB of the previous year, and KC). Taking all things into account, a guy that you all call a journeyman and say is pure crap (Gradkowski) performed much better than the guy that you're saying is so admirable. I wasn’t taking the win away from him, merely stating that it took getting a miracle completion on fourth and forever to keep that drive going. Given JR’s completion percentage, there’s no arguing that it’s a miracle that he converted, especially since there was heat in his face. If Russell has such amazing qualities in his “arm strength, accuracy, physical toughness and his ability to overcome extreme adversity,” then why was his record such horrible crap and why were his only decent performances after game 1 last year in relief appearances? If he’s really such a great QB like you’re trying to imply, then why did he produce so little when Gradkowski produced double the numbers with the same offensive line? You can’t blame the O Line for it all when someone else stepped in and beat playoff teams (except Pittsburgh, who fell off after the SB of the previous year, and KC). Taking all things into account, a guy that you all call a journeyman and say is pure crap (Gradkowski) performed much better than the guy that you’re saying is so admirable.

]]> By: RaiderDebo http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2010/02/16/janikowski-cases-in-will-seymour-get-tagged/comment-page-16/#comment-253081 RaiderDebo Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:39:32 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=9806#comment-253081 With two minutes left in the game and and an offensive line that's a sieve, who the hell cares how many downs it takes to pick up a 1st down? There was absolutely no luck involved. It was because of JR's arm strength, accuracy, physical toughness and his ability to overcome extreme adversity that the Raiders were able to pull that game out. Since it's obvious you don't remember, go back and look at that 4th and 10 play. Our OL had opened the floodgates in the 4th qtr. Charlie Frye got knocked out and both JR and Losman took devastating hits. But on that play, JR used his pocket presence and mobilility to cooly slide left away from Vonnie Hollliday, who had been living in the backfield, and fired a perfect strike to Tony Stewart who was in single coverage. Under the pressure of the rush and the pressure of losing the game, JR found the right guy and put the ball where only the receiver could catch it for a 1st down. Oh, and it was on the road too. After that, he couldn't be stopped and you know how it ended. Bottom line, I don't care what you think of the guy. There's no way you can take that victory from him. It was his THIRD game winning/tying drive of the season. How many of those do Flacco or Ryan have in their careers? This guy is clearly special. With two minutes left in the game and and an offensive line that’s a sieve, who the hell cares how many downs it takes to pick up a 1st down? There was absolutely no luck involved. It was because of JR’s arm strength, accuracy, physical toughness and his ability to overcome extreme adversity that the Raiders were able to pull that game out. Since it’s obvious you don’t remember, go back and look at that 4th and 10 play. Our OL had opened the floodgates in the 4th qtr. Charlie Frye got knocked out and both JR and Losman took devastating hits. But on that play, JR used his pocket presence and mobilility to cooly slide left away from Vonnie Hollliday, who had been living in the backfield, and fired a perfect strike to Tony Stewart who was in single coverage. Under the pressure of the rush and the pressure of losing the game, JR found the right guy and put the ball where only the receiver could catch it for a 1st down. Oh, and it was on the road too. After that, he couldn’t be stopped and you know how it ended. Bottom line, I don’t care what you think of the guy. There’s no way you can take that victory from him. It was his THIRD game winning/tying drive of the season. How many of those do Flacco or Ryan have in their careers? This guy is clearly special.

]]> By: SteveAlford21 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2010/02/16/janikowski-cases-in-will-seymour-get-tagged/comment-page-16/#comment-253073 SteveAlford21 Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:32:01 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=9806#comment-253073 Dakota: The inability to stop the run last year was more a function of horrible offensive line play letting offensive linemen get to the second level with their blocks than it was of bad defensive playcalling. If our defensive tackles were better than second-string quality (for any other team), then the run d wouldn't be so porous. The reason that Morrison leads the team in tackles is because opponents just keep running it right up the middle on us with offensive guards and centers destroying Kelly and Warren with Morrison left holding the bag seven yards downfield to make the tackle when the ballcarriers run through the massive holes up front. You can't blame the lack of run stoppage on the coordinator when the DTs can't fight off a block. You can't blame the run d's yards against average on Marshall any more than you could on Ryan. My argument against Ryan wasn't about run d yardage, it was about how he went to a prevent defense every time we had a lead in hte fourth quarter... EVERY TIME. No matter how much time was left in the game. He caused us to lose more "won" games than anyone or anything else during his tenure. The only times that Ryan didn't kill us in those situations were when we blocked a field goal against the Browns as time expired to keep the lead and in the game where Kiffin used the sneaky timeout just before the snap of a potential game-winning field goal and then the opponent missed the second try. If not for those two incidents, Ryan's fourth quarter stupidity would've cost us two more than the many that it did anyway. Dakota:

The inability to stop the run last year was more a function of horrible offensive line play letting offensive linemen get to the second level with their blocks than it was of bad defensive playcalling. If our defensive tackles were better than second-string quality (for any other team), then the run d wouldn’t be so porous. The reason that Morrison leads the team in tackles is because opponents just keep running it right up the middle on us with offensive guards and centers destroying Kelly and Warren with Morrison left holding the bag seven yards downfield to make the tackle when the ballcarriers run through the massive holes up front. You can’t blame the lack of run stoppage on the coordinator when the DTs can’t fight off a block. You can’t blame the run d’s yards against average on Marshall any more than you could on Ryan.

My argument against Ryan wasn’t about run d yardage, it was about how he went to a prevent defense every time we had a lead in hte fourth quarter… EVERY TIME. No matter how much time was left in the game. He caused us to lose more “won” games than anyone or anything else during his tenure. The only times that Ryan didn’t kill us in those situations were when we blocked a field goal against the Browns as time expired to keep the lead and in the game where Kiffin used the sneaky timeout just before the snap of a potential game-winning field goal and then the opponent missed the second try. If not for those two incidents, Ryan’s fourth quarter stupidity would’ve cost us two more than the many that it did anyway.

]]> By: SteveAlford21 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2010/02/16/janikowski-cases-in-will-seymour-get-tagged/comment-page-16/#comment-253062 SteveAlford21 Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:18:14 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=9806#comment-253062 Okay, I just had an epiphany. #2's best production after game 1 last year came in his relief appearances, right? Okay, I have decided that I am in favor of keeping Russell for the year as the emergency QB and instead of letting him start every preseason game, we let him play the entire second half of each preseason game. That way he gets a lot more snaps in game situations and they're against second and third string defenses so he has a chance to improve. I'm okay with him on the roster this season as long as there are no expectations or responsibilities placed on him other than to learn and improve and get in shape (and stay there). As long as he's not the starter or asked to be, then I'm okay with him being here with the goal of someday getting him to that point. For now, though, he's not there and isn't ready to be thrust into that position. Okay, I just had an epiphany. #2’s best production after game 1 last year came in his relief appearances, right? Okay, I have decided that I am in favor of keeping Russell for the year as the emergency QB and instead of letting him start every preseason game, we let him play the entire second half of each preseason game. That way he gets a lot more snaps in game situations and they’re against second and third string defenses so he has a chance to improve. I’m okay with him on the roster this season as long as there are no expectations or responsibilities placed on him other than to learn and improve and get in shape (and stay there). As long as he’s not the starter or asked to be, then I’m okay with him being here with the goal of someday getting him to that point. For now, though, he’s not there and isn’t ready to be thrust into that position.

]]> By: SteveAlford21 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2010/02/16/janikowski-cases-in-will-seymour-get-tagged/comment-page-16/#comment-253056 SteveAlford21 Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:02:19 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=9806#comment-253056 Debo, I would be glad to explain myself on that one. Remember the game that we won in Denver when Russell came off the bench? Do you remember a 4th-and-forever that we thankfully converted with Russell in there? If JR was better at playing his position, then he might have some manageable 3rd downs instead of 3rd and long that turns into 4th and long. And I don't hate Russell... I hate the fact that he hasn't put in the work to be where a guy who just finished his third season should be. I hate that he can't read both sides of the field. I hate that he's overweight. I hate that he holds the ball below his waist when he drops back. I hate that he fumbles whenever a defender touches him (better than DMAC tackling himself and stripping the ball from himself on the way down, though). I hate that he throws behind or over receivers across the middle. I hate that he had a 2-9 TD-INT ratio last year. I don't hate him as a person, but I hate what he's done so far as a Raider... and until he dedicates himself and does what he needs to do in order to succeed, I will continue to hate the fact that he's on the roster. Debo, I would be glad to explain myself on that one.

Remember the game that we won in Denver when Russell came off the bench? Do you remember a 4th-and-forever that we thankfully converted with Russell in there? If JR was better at playing his position, then he might have some manageable 3rd downs instead of 3rd and long that turns into 4th and long. And I don’t hate Russell… I hate the fact that he hasn’t put in the work to be where a guy who just finished his third season should be. I hate that he can’t read both sides of the field. I hate that he’s overweight. I hate that he holds the ball below his waist when he drops back. I hate that he fumbles whenever a defender touches him (better than DMAC tackling himself and stripping the ball from himself on the way down, though). I hate that he throws behind or over receivers across the middle. I hate that he had a 2-9 TD-INT ratio last year. I don’t hate him as a person, but I hate what he’s done so far as a Raider… and until he dedicates himself and does what he needs to do in order to succeed, I will continue to hate the fact that he’s on the roster.

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