Pendergast jumps to Cal
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, February 19th, 2010 at 11:10 am in Oakland Raiders.
Clancy Pendergast, who was fired as defensive coordinator with the Arizona Cardinals and Kansas City Chiefs in the past two years, will leave the Raiders after less than a month and to be defensive coordinator under Jeff Tedford at Cal, beat writer Steve Corkran confirms.
Pendergast was hired by the Raiders Feb. 8 as a defensive assistant. Although the club never specified Pendergast’s responsibility, he was coaching defensive backs along with Lionel Washington.
The situation is the reverse of one which occurred last year when Jim Michalczik, hired by Steve Sarkisian coach the offensive line at the University of Washington, instead left the Huskies to take over as line coach with the Raiders under Tom Cable.
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February 19th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Welcome to Big Al’s sh*t list, Clancy.
February 19th, 2010 at 11:16 am
2nd?
February 19th, 2010 at 11:18 am
pretty sure a DC position at Cal holds more prestige than asst DB’s coach of the Raiders …
congrats CP!
February 19th, 2010 at 11:19 am
That was quick.
February 19th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Never trust a man named Clancy!!
February 19th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Oh well.
February 19th, 2010 at 11:21 am
I wish someone else would hire Tom Cable.
February 19th, 2010 at 11:22 am
who will replace Brown/Pendergast now?
February 19th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Next
February 19th, 2010 at 11:24 am
ESPN reporting that Peppers will top the list of unrestricted free agents beginning 3/5. I doubt it. Panthers will franchise him or at least stick the transition tag no him.
February 19th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Peppers will cost the Panthers A FORTUNE to keep.
no guarantee they’ll find a trade partner either if he wants to become the NFL’s highest paid defensive player …
February 19th, 2010 at 11:30 am
F U AL, I’M GOING TO CAL.
February 19th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Yawn
February 19th, 2010 at 11:31 am
Patrick Bates for DB coach!
February 19th, 2010 at 11:31 am
You can get a coat rack to replace Willie Brown.
February 19th, 2010 at 11:32 am
GOOD!!!!
I and several others on here pointed out he’s never really been very good has he?
I realize KC was transitioning to a 3-4, but man, those guys quit on him several times last year.
Beat it Clancy!
February 19th, 2010 at 11:33 am
The assassin for DB coach!
February 19th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Who names there kid Clancy? I mean honestly?
February 19th, 2010 at 11:36 am
I just busted out of my VHS vault the game between the Raiders/Broncos in 2002 (The 500th game broadcast on MNF) Classic-I miss those days.
February 19th, 2010 at 11:37 am
It was the game where Rod had 100 yd pick 6 to turn around season. It has been to long!
February 19th, 2010 at 11:39 am
You can get a coat rack to replace Willie Brown.
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care to elaborate?
February 19th, 2010 at 11:40 am
Patrick Bates for DB coach!
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bring Gibson #36 in as asst DB coach to mentor Mike Mitchell. they have a lot in common!
February 19th, 2010 at 11:40 am
same skill set – sorry
February 19th, 2010 at 11:41 am
RRS- sounds about right
February 19th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Well that didnt take long. Hey I cant blame him, we all know Al pays millions of dollars to players but pennies to coaches. Cal made him a better offer position & dollarwise and he jumped on it. Smart man.
February 19th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Terry Mcdaniel anyone?
February 19th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Didn’t Gannon complete 25 passes in a row in that game?
I don’t even think our current QB’s and WR’s could complete 25 straight passes without a defense on the field.
February 19th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Rod Woodson or Eric Allen??
February 19th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Vegas- good memory, I believe that did happen. I’m probaly going to pop it in soon and fantasize that I’m watching the 2010 Raiders. Zack Crockett baby!
February 19th, 2010 at 11:47 am
gRod
February 19th, 2010 at 11:47 am
I don’t even think our current QB’s and WR’s could complete 25 straight passes without a defense on the field.
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LOL! very true
Russell couldn’t complete 3 passes in a row against the Chiefs secondary …
February 19th, 2010 at 11:48 am
opps no g just rod
February 19th, 2010 at 11:48 am
Vegas
I hear the gaming and economy is bouncing back in Vegas, no?
February 19th, 2010 at 11:48 am
AD’s reputation in dealing with coaches precedes him. That’s what he gets when he treats coaches the way he does. It’s really too bad because good coaching IS a necessity in today’s game.
Just proves what goes around, comes around. Reap your coaches’ reward Al.
February 19th, 2010 at 11:48 am
Maybe Grads will be our Gannon (I’ll even take 3/4 of Gannon)
February 19th, 2010 at 11:49 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
“February 19th, 2010 at 10:46 am
an LA to TheBay sighting?
where u been bro?
how long has it been since your last log in? 6 months or better?
been busy or banned?”
Nah, I think my last comment was after the Cleveland game or thereabouts.
Working on-site so haven’t been by the computer long enough to BS with the Nation.
Need a few more coaches, 2 more guys on d, 2 guys on OLine and we’re ready to rock.
Southwick still on board?
That JaMarcus guy sucks.
February 19th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Clancy is no big loss-seriously if it was Hue maybe I would say something.
February 19th, 2010 at 11:51 am
It’s all boats and hoes to Al Davis
February 19th, 2010 at 11:52 am
Football, the mother of all team game, every unit dependent on the other units, and Al Davis devalues Coaching?????????????????????????
February 19th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Nnanmdi for defensive backs coach/VP of football operations/starting QB
February 19th, 2010 at 11:53 am
I rather start Bush at QB, than Jaskittle.
February 19th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Southwick still on board?
That JaMarcus guy sucks.
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yeah. we like to call him “the Danchise”
February 19th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Nnamdi? hmmm sounds good to me, he’s a smart dude.
February 19th, 2010 at 11:56 am
If southwick is the “danchise” what is Jamarcus?
February 19th, 2010 at 11:56 am
‘Ol Clarence must have had one of those infamous six hour “football talks” with Al, and asked himself “what in the hell am I doing here?.” Lucky for him, the gig at Cal opened up..
February 19th, 2010 at 11:56 am
RR
How’s the Podunk economy going, bouncing back?
February 19th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Need a few more coaches, 2 more guys on d, 2 guys on OLine and we’re ready to rock.
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so in other words:
replace Kelly Skipper, Sanjay Lal, John Fassel & Willie Brown on the staff.
replace Warren, Carlisle & Green in the starting line-up. Who is the 2nd guy on D?
February 19th, 2010 at 11:58 am
If southwick is the “danchise” what is Jamarcus?
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“the hamchise”
February 19th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Actually Clancy was touched inappropretley by a fell ow staff member and decided to move on. from:”source”
February 19th, 2010 at 11:59 am
KoolKell Says:
February 19th, 2010 at 11:48 am
Vegas
I hear the gaming and economy is bouncing back in Vegas, no?
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Ahhhhh…nothing great. The City Center opened up a month or so ago, and that was certianly a little boost, but that is really on the high-end of things which never took that huge of a hit to start. The Super Bowl had a decrease on the overall handle from the year before.
The casino at Lake Las Vegas is closing down, and the local casino’s are getting creamed and running it issues of defaulting on bond debt and the like.
Unemployment is still higher here than the national average.
But hey…..Barack was here yesterday!!! Had a nice meeting with 40 of the wealthiest guys here in town to try to drum up support for Harry.
February 19th, 2010 at 11:59 am
We will be led into battle by the Hamchise, we are doomed!
February 19th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
I heard this morning that Vegas gaming was bouncing back. Unemployment still high. MSNBC.
February 19th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
How’s the Podunk economy going, bouncing back?
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my wife’s dad & uncle got laid off a while back. dad is back working in a different field, uncle decided to just stay retired. I’m in healthcare so my job is safe (for now). there will always be sick & injured people out there.
how is the realtor in Cali thing workin’ for ya?
I have some buddies in CA real estate that are really hurtin’ financially
February 19th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Barack is speaking on CNBC right now in Las Vegas.
February 19th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Inventory is low here in Alameda, people are not selling. But prices are stable.
But the Cali inland valleys were hit bad with foreclosures, and short sales.
Location, Location, Location.
Gotta run.
February 19th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 19th, 2010 at 11:52 am
Football, the mother of all team game, every unit dependent on the other units, and Al Davis devalues Coaching?????????????????????????
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Davis doesn’t devalue coaching. In fact he has had some of the all time great coaches on various staffs his entire ownership of the Raiders including Shanahan, John Fox, Mike White ended up winning a Super Bowl on Vermeils staff, Joe Bugel started here coaching the Oline and is still coaching offensive lines, as is Callahan, Norv Turner seems to be doing pretty well last time I looked, Steve Sarkisian got his NFL start with the Raiders, same with Don Martindale, Jimmy Raye currently the Whiners OC, Terry Robiskie, I can go on and on. Kind of a dumb statement KoolKell.
February 19th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
“Only so much that govt can do, only so much that govt should do”
-Obama, Vegas.
Vegas, can I get a witness?
February 19th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
“Kind of a dumb statement KoolKell”
If I had a dollar for every time I heard this….
February 19th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Seymour Bush
You’re being ridiculous.
February 19th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
I’m watching. I’ve learned not to put much inventory into what he says.
Show me Barack. Show me.
February 19th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Football, the mother of all team game, every unit dependent on the other units, and Al Davis devalues Coaching AND Chemistry?????????????????????????
February 19th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Gotta run as well.
February 19th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Vegas
2 consecutive quarters of growth. Isn’t that showing?
February 19th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Elvis Patterson anyone?????
February 19th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
so in other words:
replace Kelly Skipper, Sanjay Lal, John Fassel & Willie Brown on the staff.
replace Warren, Carlisle & Green in the starting line-up. Who is the 2nd guy on D?
Captain Kirk.
Can’t shed a block, bites on play action and can’t get the defense organized.
I know almost all of us like the dude personally but he needs to go. Either resign and move him to SSLB or let him walk. Howard too. They’re playing in the wrong system.
February 19th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
I’ll take Elvis Dumerville thanx
February 19th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 19th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Davis doesn’t devalue coaching. In fact he has had some of the all time great coaches on various staffs his entire ownership of the Raiders including Shanahan, John Fox, Mike White ended up winning a Super Bowl on Vermeils staff, Joe Bugel started here coaching the Oline and is still coaching offensive lines, as is Callahan, Norv Turner seems to be doing pretty well last time I looked, Steve Sarkisian got his NFL start with the Raiders, same with Don Martindale, Jimmy Raye currently the Whiners OC, Terry Robiskie, I can go on and on. Kind of a dumb statement KoolKell.
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???????????????????
February 19th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
China is producing 40 High Speed Railways
U.S. is producing 1.
This aint 1950 anymore, good ole boys.
February 19th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Captain Kirk.
Can’t shed a block, bites on play action and can’t get the defense organized.
I know almost all of us like the dude personally but he needs to go. Either resign and move him to SSLB or let him walk. Howard too. They’re playing in the wrong system.
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I understand everybody’s take on him, but I think he’s serviceable for another year and will have a much better chance at success with a real NT. Same goes for Thomas Howard. scrap the prevent defense for good. get an offense on the field that can score some points.
those 3 things will transform our defense into a Top 10 unit IMO… #1 in pass D and probably #13-15 in run D
February 19th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Norco Bob Says:
February 19th, 2010 at 8:17 am
Purely awful presser,…shouldnt have done it,…worst thing Iv ever seen,…wtf apologize???????????….bfd!!!…Tiger you owe none of those losers an apology!!!!!
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Losers?
Who do you think he was apologizing to?
Wasn’t apologizing to the fans.
Wasn’t apologizing to the reporters.
Wasn’t apologizing to the game of golf.
He was apologizing to THE SPONSERS THAT WERE PAYING HIM 90 MILLION A YEAR TO REP THEIR PRODUCT.
February 19th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
1950?…lol…old kell was only 21 years old back then,…youve come a long way old fool. hahaha!
February 19th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
February 19th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 19th, 2010 at 11:52 am
Football, the mother of all team game, every unit dependent on the other units, and Al Davis devalues Coaching?????????????????????????
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Davis doesn’t devalue coaching. In fact he has had some of the all time great coaches on various staffs his entire ownership of the Raiders including Shanahan, John Fox, Mike White ended up winning a Super Bowl on Vermeils staff, Joe Bugel started here coaching the Oline and is still coaching offensive lines, as is Callahan, Norv Turner seems to be doing pretty well last time I looked, Steve Sarkisian got his NFL start with the Raiders, same with Don Martindale, Jimmy Raye currently the Whiners OC, Terry Robiskie, I can go on and on. Kind of a dumb statement KoolKell.
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You just don’t abuse the right to be stupid, OakGlen, you’ve rewritten the book.
Every time I think you can’t say something even less intelligent, you prove me wrong.
You obviously missed the point. When you take your head out of your cross posting ass, maybe you’ll get it.
No one’s holding their breath at that prospect.
February 19th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Rich,..I tried with above post,..I just cant grasp it,…which one os your post on that? Dammit.
February 19th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 19th, 2010 at 11:39 am
You can get a coat rack to replace Willie Brown.
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care to elaborate?
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Sure. Willie Brown’s coaching position was a complete joke, and everybody knows it. He’s not a coach. He’s alumni. If we were a real organization, we’d be hiring real coaches.
February 19th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
# Richochet Says:
February 19th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Norco Bob Says:
February 19th, 2010 at 8:17 am
Purely awful presser,…shouldnt have done it,…worst thing Iv ever seen,…wtf apologize???????????….bfd!!!…Tiger you owe none of those losers an apology!!!!!
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Losers?
Who do you think he was apologizing to?
Wasn’t apologizing to the fans.
Wasn’t apologizing to the reporters.
Wasn’t apologizing to the game of golf.
He was apologizing to THE SPONSORS THAT WERE PAYING HIM 90 MILLION A YEAR TO REP THEIR PRODUCT.
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Boy, isn’t that the truth!
February 19th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Ottocrat:
is it impossible to believe that a Hall of Fame cornerback could get a job as asst DB Coach & director of squad development ???
February 19th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
# Richochet Says:
February 19th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
You obviously missed the point. When you take your head out of your cross posting ass, maybe you’ll get it.
No one’s holding their breath at that prospect.
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Wack-o once again, what do you say in your post? You don’t say anything. You NEVER say anything. But you are conditioned NOT to say anything because as soon as you do, you are skewered in here like a fish in a barrel. Liberace thinks YOU take it up the azz duuuuuude.
February 19th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
RR:
Only when the HOFer is Willie Brown, and the team is the Raiders.
February 19th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
some of you Pavlovian poodles slobber that a guy named Clancy jumped to Cal because AD only pays his coaches a pittance as he undervalues them.
Contract evidence?
when Michalczik jumped TO the Raiders from UW was it because of the undervaluation and the pittance he would be paid?
man, some of you are like children who believe the Bogeyman hides behind every tree in the forest.
February 19th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
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February 19th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
The oil companies will never let the high speed rail come to fruition, Kell. And since they have the American people brainwashed as to where they honestly think they’re better than people who take the subways, light rails, and buses just because they took a loan out on an SUV that’s going to destroy their credit, there won’t be any urgency from the voters anytime soon, either.
February 19th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Pendergast gone already? Sounds like another love tko.
February 19th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
some of you are like children who believe the Bogeyman hides behind every tree in the forest.
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is it safe? is he gone now?
February 19th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
RRS
RE: Kirk
I agree but I’m tired of serviceable. I want elite. I understand it doesn’t happen overnight and may never happen again on this team other than sheer luck (Nnamndi).
A solid NT would help any MLB out, but I just don’t see him having a future in that position. Maybe WLB in a 3-4 or outside in a 4-3.
The defense as is would be playoff calibre if the offense was worth its weight in spit.
Given that Russell will probably start again next season, its worth its weight (about 280, 285?) in Spam.
The defense needs an upgrade at linebacker in general and MLB specifically.
Cable’s not sold on him either, evident in camp when Kirk was only taking half the snaps.
Hopefully Cable has Al’s ear now. Despite having a man-crush on Kwame and Fargas, Cable was right when it came to Russell and a few other things as well (possible defensive scheme) and Al allowed him to tweak it.
February 19th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Read an interesting article about Cable, many of you may have caught as well, about him at the Senior Bowl, apparently unaware of his job status, looking like the most focused coach there.
Spent a lot of time looking at lineman, so hopefully Al will allow him to draft some.
I mean he already got his QB, RB, and WR of the future (please no laughing), and I don’t think there is elite CB talent available at #8.
Of course, its possible Al trades up.
February 19th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Hopefully Al this, hopefully Al that…
If you guys are going to hope for something you know Al isn’t going to do, why don’t you just hope for him to retire?
February 19th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Tiger Woods y’all.
February 19th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
I don’t think there is elite CB talent available at #8.
Of course, its possible Al trades up.
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Joe Haden!
February 19th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Hopefully Al this, hopefully Al that…
If you guys are going to hope for something you know Al isn’t going to do, why don’t you just hope for him to retire?
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Great point.
February 19th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Great move!!!!
Give that loser a bonus for leaving, man we got lucky.
February 19th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
Kell, have you ever noticed that, though? If you call for Al’s resignation, they tell you to come up with a more realistic solution, because that’s not going to happen, etc. Then in the next breath they suggest that Al should draft a run stopping D tackle with the first round pick, or hire Bill Cowher.
February 19th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Yeh, he was the second coming a few weeks ago when we hired him, now we’re lucky he’s gone. Kool Aid’s on tap, fellas.
February 19th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
5pm in Podunk.
you guys all have a great/safe weekend!
February 19th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
I was almost about to google pendergast to see who he was,..now wont.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Only In America:
Did you hear about the Baptist Preacher in Montgomery Alabama, found dead with a West Suit on Rubber Underwear and a Didlo in his anus?
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/1008072scuba1.html
February 19th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
I assume Washington told him how he takes his coffee,..so Pendergast will instead bring Tedford coffee,..all good.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Ahhh Krappy, spinning your wheels again I see.
I guess whenever you crap your pants you feel a need to post a worthless hypothetical question to the blog because you’re too senile to come up with any answers on your own.
That’s why there’s all the cut and pasting, right old dude? Sweet!
Anyway, what big plans do you and the wifey have for this evening? I plan on taking some of my ladies to Newport Beach for some hot sake, then over to Rodman’s house for an after hours pajama jammy jam.
Gotta show off my new velvet smoking jacket, you know what I’m saying bro slam?
February 19th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Settle down old man,…your links are getting weirder and weirder,…old folks are soooo silly.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
MR,…Im once again pulling off on Mather,..Louie`s cocktail lounge,…will need a few beers to get me up the hill,..wanna join me?
February 19th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Hire Tiger Woods for Talent Scout.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Hey you guys dig curling?…Olympics style?…I dig it myself, but cant watch it unless big time loaded,…I think the USA is takin on Sweden tonight,..should be intense.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 19th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
Kell, have you ever noticed that, though? If you call for Al’s resignation, they tell you to come up with a more realistic solution, because that’s not going to happen, etc. Then in the next breath they suggest that Al should draft a run stopping D tackle with the first round pick, or hire Bill Cowher.
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Absolutely, that’s why it struck me.
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A
February 19th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Old kell,..why dont you go to the Raiders HQ and ask Old Al to resign?…as I told you though as soon as they look at you they will tell you,…”the janitors job is already taken”…bummer.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Bob, that’s right. You’re going to Louie’s cocktail lounge. You need a few beers to get up the hill.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Bob, that’s right. Al will never resign.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Seriously old kell,..if you want old al to resign, go ask him in person, youre right there dude,..he doesnt read this blog,…so stop crying in here and go demand his resignation, face to face,..you two are about the same age, he can relate to you.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
No owners usually dont bud,…Iv tried a few years to get Cohan to quit, but he wont.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Ya,..Louie`s is pretty cool about 5:30ish,..easy access just off 50,…come join me man,…beers on me.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Krappy, for crying out loud – you are an elderly man, a broker in your community and a husband.
Yet you have no problem promoting stories about dildos and anuses on a football blog?
Time to re-prioritize your life, you silly old freak!
I would NEVER let any of my ladies click on your perverted links. And I just might report you directly to Jerry myself.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 19th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 19th, 2010 at 11:52 am
Football, the mother of all team game, every unit dependent on the other units, and Al Davis devalues Coaching?????????????????????????
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Davis doesn’t devalue coaching. In fact he has had some of the all time great coaches on various staffs his entire ownership of the Raiders including Shanahan, John Fox, Mike White ended up winning a Super Bowl on Vermeils staff, Joe Bugel started here coaching the Oline and is still coaching offensive lines, as is Callahan, Norv Turner seems to be doing pretty well last time I looked, Steve Sarkisian got his NFL start with the Raiders, same with Don Martindale, Jimmy Raye currently the Whiners OC, Terry Robiskie, I can go on and on. Kind of a dumb statement KoolKell.
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Its true.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Man, if I was Tigers advisor I would have had him say Im sorry to his wife, and told all the media to get a f`n life and enjoy the free food that was laid out for them. F the media.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Bob, that’s right. Al doesn’t read blogs.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Man I cant wait for spring training,…at Pheonix stadium they still deliver beers to your seats.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
I doubt he knows what a blog is. Seriously.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
The reason those great coaches left is because Al devalues coaching. All of them. None left on good terms, except for Madden. What a propaganda piece by Seymour Bush.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Bob, that’s right. Al doesn’t know what a blog is.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Al hires decent coaches from time to time, but he tries to break them down into puppets. He doesn’t value them at all. Get real, Seymour Bush and Nnamdi 21.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Im still trying to get that name, seymour bush,..is that some clever sexual thing?…sure some odd names in here.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Were any of those “great coaches” Seymour Bush talked about, great here?
NO.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Ya its a real downer that pendergast left,..I guess Nhambdi will suck now.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Move Morrison to SLB or ditch him. Sick and tired of watching him call bad audibles, over pursuing, making bad reads, getting caught out of position, getting wired to blockers, getting torched on an island ect ec fugging cetera.
Neat. he’s a local product. So what? He makes a 100 tackles a year but like Jerry so aptly stated “Doesn’t do much good when they are all 5-7 yds down field.
We got Howard and Morrison as coverage backers because of Tony Gonzales and Antonio Gates.
Our division opponents had the BEST TE’s in the game and we were able to negate them for the most part. Mean while their running backs were torching hell out of us but hey! Their TE’s were covered! Mostly…
February 19th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Old kell,…watch that blood pressure.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Brian thinks kirk morrison is gay…I think its possible, his tweets are alot about fashion, stuff like that.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
I would google who pendergast is, but googles line is busy,..let me know when you free up that line old kell,..thanks.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Old kell,..you have posted the raiders address in here several times,..for protest type reasons,..so you know where old al works,..why dont you go down there and let him know how you feel about his job performance.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 19th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Al hires decent coaches from time to time, but he tries to break them down into puppets. He doesn’t value them at all. Get real, Seymour Bush and Nnamdi 21.
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I think his meddling over deciding who the f stays or goes and allegiance to a system hog tied them in some cases, but its not like he hired ALL bums who’ve done nothing but suck.
Definitely some talented coaches and trainers have been employed by Oakland. Yes, and some bums too…
February 19th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 19th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Al hires decent coaches from time to time, but he tries to break them down into puppets. He doesn’t value them at all. Get real, Seymour Bush and Nnamdi 21.
# KoolKell Says:
February 19th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Were any of those “great coaches” Seymour Bush talked about, great here?
NO.
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To say he doesn’t value coaches is a stupid statement. What I think you mean to say is he doesn’t pay coaches. But that is different, I mean, let’s get real here: He’s a cheap ass bastard. Have any of you seen the halftime entertainment they trot out year after year? And I literally mean trot out there! It’s either frisbee dogs or watching the already paid grounds crew pick up divots.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
I was at a game about 3 years ago,..the frisbee dogs show were the only time the fans got off their seats to cheer that day. Word.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
That’s right, Bob. Brian thinks that Morrison is gay.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Seymour Oakglenn
If Al Davis valued Coaches, he would hire good Coaches, pay them, let them do their job.
1 Good coach in the last 20 years.
So you’re fukin stupid.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
No KoolKell I am not. But you are a piece of sh** name calling waste case who couldn’t find his ass with a road map, directions, and two assistants. But, hey, everyone knows that.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
The Punt, Pass, and Kick halftime is always my favorite Norco.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Old kell, go tell old al you want him to resign,..what are you afraid of?
February 19th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
At halftime Im usually in the tunnel getting high.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
SeyOak
To say that Al Davis Values Coaches, but doesn’t pay them is stupid.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Old kell, there must be more to you then just being the poster child for welfare, food stamps, section 8 and government aid,…go get al to resign, you would be our hero!
February 19th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Whoa, Krappy! It’s Friday afternoon, you should be relaxing at home playing Shoots n Ladders while KrappyWife feeds you applesauce.
Instead you’re here cussing at folks on the blog and working up a huge load to drop into your flannel pajamas.
So settle down, you old fool. I don’t want to have to tell you again!
February 19th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Oakglenn, now throw a tantrum.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Harbor Bay Parkway old kell,…go for it,..or is crying about old al in a blog much safer?…silly old man.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
MR,..Louie`s…can ya make it brother?
February 19th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 19th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
The reason those great coaches left is because Al devalues coaching. All of them. None left on good terms, except for Madden. What a propaganda piece by Seymour Bush.
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Bugel left because on the lst game of the year KC won on the last play and Joe Bugel ran off the field and hid under his desk instead of standing up and taking responsibility for the loss and everything went downhill from there. Norphus and Callahan also lost the team. Some of the other guys he alienated, some of the other guys moved on. It happens. Ask Jimmmy Johnson former coach of Dallas. But don’t call it a propaganda piece.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
By the way Tiger better dang well compete at Pebble later this year,..Im going to be there, would suck if he isnt there too.
Eastwood will make sure hes there,…cant beat a major at Pebble!!
February 19th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
I devalue coaches too,…I dont think Phil Jackson is worth a fig without Jordon and Kobe and Shaq. Word.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 19th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
SeyOak
To say that Al Davis Values Coaches, but doesn’t pay them is stupid.
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He doesn’t pay ANYONE. He’s a cheap ass bastard. If he didn’t value coaches he would just hoist YOU out there. There’s a difference. What he does is find overlooked or younger guys, who are smart and hardworking and tries to get them to work for less than he would have to pay someone else. In a lot of instances that is smart. (See Gruden, Jon)
February 19th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Oakglenn
If Al Davis valued Coaching, they wouldn’t be 29-83.
Now throw a tantrum with Beeych & Boob.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Oh hey, great concert this summer,..Korn, Rob Zombie headline that Mayhem Fest show,..Shoreline and also Marysville,..should be great!…(no brian wont join me for that)
February 19th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Seymour Bush…
Al refuses to allow Lane Kiffin to hire a defensive coordinator after Rob Ryan takes our defense from 3rd to 22nd.
Al drafts JaMarcus Russell with the number one overall pick, a very unproven college quarterback, against Kiffin’s wishes. (source: Al Davis. “He’s a great player, get over it”)
After offering Bobby Petrino an island in the pacific, Al gives Art Shell a modest contract. Art Shell won at least 10 more games than he lost in his previous stint as HC.
According to Warren Sapp, Al Davis completely scrapped a scheme that Rob Ryan had put together in either ‘04 or ‘05, a scheme that the whole defense was excited about.
After the 2000 season, a season where we went 12-4 and reached our first AFC title game in a decade, Al Davis offered Gruden only an extension of his previous rookie coaches’ contract, as opposed to ripping up the old contract and giving him a new one. This would set off a series of events that would eventually result in Gruden being traded to Tampa Bay for draft picks and cash that we’ve already exhausted use of.
And, these examples just scratch the surface as to how much Al Davis values his coaches. Don’t make me laugh.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Old kell its YOU thats throwin an old man tantrum,..go to HQ, tell Al yoself,..you too afraid too?
February 19th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
If you guys are going to hope for something you know Al isn’t going to do, why don’t you just hope for him to retire?
Because I used up all my hope praying for you to retire from Raider bashing
February 19th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
MR,..Im still pissed Gruden gone,..7 years later,…matter of fact, now that im in row 1, I will have a “Bring back gruden” banner and tape in right in front of me,..all year long,..Im serious….to me he was the best thing thats happened to us in last 30 years…Im still pissed.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
I still have my Chucky doll I used to bring to games….the one with the head phones on.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Seymour Bush Says
He doesn’t pay ANYONE. He’s a cheap ass bastard.
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Yeah, go tell it to DeAngelo Hall, Tommy Kelly, Javon Walker etal.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Old kell,..go tell him to his face,..you are close by,..dont be such a baby,..go tell him so…or are you just all blog talk?
February 19th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
By the time you left the building you would be begging to wax his limo.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Thats probably what most dudes in their 60`s do all day every day, cry about a pro sports team owner….stupid old kell.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Seymour Bush etc etc,
On one side of your mouth, you say Al will pay the money for any player he wants. On the other side of your mouth, you say he’s a cheap ass bastard. That’s stupid.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Whats stupid is you are too scared to go tell Al yourself,..much safer for you in a blog I guess,…stupid old man.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Put down that block of government cheese down and march into Raider HQ and demand Al either value coaches or resign,…you can do it old kell!!! our hero!!
February 19th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Lets see,..old kell can either go down to tell Al himself to resign,..or old kell can spend every day of his life, for years now, complaining about Al Davis,…nice job old fool.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
There’s more.
In 2000, Al Davis drafted a kicker with the number one overall pick, Sebastian Janikowski, when we already had a decent foot in Joe Nedney, and had serious needs elsewhere, especially in the defensive secondary, a lesson we’d learn the hard way in the AFC title game months later (Anthony Dorsett being the first and only NFL DB in history to bite on a pump fake by Trent Dilfer). Considering Jano is still here long after Gruden is gone, a sane person would have to assume that Al made that call against Gruden’s wishes.
John Fox mysteriously left a practice and never returned.
Coaches don’t just leave in the middle of practice when they’re valued, Seymour.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Plunkethead, what is “Raider bashing”?
February 19th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Bring back Gruden. Watch for that banner…(but not on tv around here)
February 19th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Hey old man, youre not crying are you?
February 19th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Krappy, you have to remember – you don’t have the brain power any more to decide if something is or isn’t stupid.
Remember, you also think you’ve traveled the world as a member of the Navy.
And that you own a chalet in Switzerland.
It’s called senility, old dude – you can’t fight it, so just roll with it!
February 19th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
I take it all back, of course you shouldnt confront Al,..its much better to blog about it here, every day, for years…much better idea. lol
February 19th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Gotta run, goin to beat the hwy 50 sprint,..Louie`s MR!!…beers and darts on me!!!…(old kell, dry your eyes now, its safe to come back and bash Al) lol
February 19th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
If Al Davis respected coaches, he’d pay them their due. He has no problem overpaying over-the-hill talent but he refuses to recognize skilled coaches as a value commodity. Yet, he considers himself a coach. What does that say?
February 19th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Trade D-Mac for a valued Coach! (;
February 19th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Let’s trade D-Mac, a 1st and a 3rd this year, and Chris Johnson for Tom Brady.
Would you guys make that trade? Would New England?
I say yes and yes
February 19th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
And of course Al Davis values Tom Cable, by interviewing potential replacements while he’s still with the team. Of course, that doesn’t bother me. He should devalue Tom Cable. It’s when he devalues our good coaches.
February 19th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Vegas, Belichick doesn’t fall for lopsided trades with the Raiders that benefit the Raiders. It’s the other way around.
February 19th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Belichick would be more than happy to give up a couple of guys on his roster with fast 40 times who can’t catch, block, or tackle for those guys, though.
February 19th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
You think that is too little for Tom Brady?
I would think New England might not want to pay D-Mac’s salary so they may rather have Bush. But two role players and the 8th pick in the draft (draft a QB) and a 3rd.
I think that is close to his market value. If Jerry would do another chat, I would ask him.
February 19th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Any of you losers ever had a Hustler centerfold make them a crappy margarita?
This one put in way too much ice and left off the salt. I’m telling you, if her twin sister screws up the salsa, I’m making a vow to NEVER again have sexual relations with a centerfold from the month of October again.
February 19th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Thats not bad, the centerfolds I’ve had fold in three places.
February 19th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Vegas, the nature of the relationship between Bill Belichick and Al Davis is for Bill to shine Al on, and for Al to give up his shirt for peanuts. Why would Belichick ever give Al Davis anything of value?
February 19th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
I thought the hire of Pendergast was a good one but the hire was obviously a nice gesture to him and an opportunity if he wanted to stay but the team obviously didn’t have a true position for him and were just doing a favor for him from the sounds of it. Overall, the Raiders need a lot more than Pendergast could offer anyways and it seems Lionel Washington did a pretty good job last year based on the progress of the secondary and John Marshall was a great upgrade as a Defensive Coordinator so we’re probably ok.
We have plenty of other areas that need more work.
February 19th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Oh snap…..guess what I saw?! ooooohhhhhhiiiiieeeee….goodbye yeller brick road.
February 19th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Theres not much to this because Penergast was dumped twice before and wasn’t here long enough to do anything.
February 19th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Clancy left because he got a better job. If he gets the Bears to play some good D, he can maybe get a collegiate HC job.
He isn’t ever going to be a HC in the pro’s.
I wish him well (Go Bears!!)
February 19th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
USA defeated France in Curling!!
USA! USA! USA!
February 19th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
oh snap teddy pendergast,…we hardly knew yaz. ooohhhhiiiiieee.
February 19th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Was that a robot or Tiger on TV today kissing the worlds butt?
February 19th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
What Tiger supposed to do? He could have done anything and he would have gotten criticized. He effed up…oh well. The guy likes to play golf and hes the best at it. It just so happens that hes under the spotlight because of it and having millions, popularity and hot women wanting you all the time has to be the most difficult thing in regards to control.
The biggest thing Tiger is guilty of is getting married. He should have just been a single player for as long as he could if he wanted that lifestyle.
February 19th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
I still don’t understand why Tiger is apologizing to the public.
February 19th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
MR – I agree. He doesn’t owe the public anything.
February 19th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
I wonder if the Cal bears will stick to a 3-4 now.
February 19th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Tiger is getting grilled worse than Clinton did , go figure
February 19th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Tiger’s screwups were just soooooo unexpected.
February 19th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 19th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
I still don’t understand why Tiger is apologizing to the public.
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Are you stupid? He is trying to spin his web still and get us to buy ($$$) into his act.
February 19th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Tiger doesn’t need the money, Vegas.
February 19th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
24 Says:
February 19th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
The biggest thing Tiger is guilty of is getting married
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The dude played is wife, to feed into his image and ego, profiting by the millions off it.
I hope she takes him for…..say a quarter billion. I would LMAO
February 19th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Tiger’s getting it because he’s never publicly denounced the behavior of poor blacks. Black celebrities have to do that in order to avoid vilification from the press when they get into trouble. When Bill Cosby was being sued by some young female employee he tried to feel up, there wasn’t a peep about it in the press. I guess Tiger thought that laughing off Fuzzy Zoeller’s racist jokes would be enough to put him on the protected black celebrity list. Not quite, I guess.
February 19th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
He may soon, if he wants to continue to roll with MJ
February 19th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Nah, he’s already made a billion.
February 19th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Vegas, you know so much about everything for a regular old Raider fan who doesn’t want people to think he’s important, and just wants to root for his team and talk football on a blog.
February 19th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
He screwed up big time, I think he’s sorry, he admitted his sense of entitlement. But he fuked up big-time, because his beautiful wife loved him. He betrayed her, bad. She’s leaving.
February 19th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
The biggest thing Tigger is guilty of is being selfish, stupid and after today, a sissy.
February 19th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Vegas Raider, talk football, dude. Remember what you said? You don’t want anyone to think you’re important. Yet you’re pretending to have an inside track on the whole Woods thing, lecturing others in here for being so naive as to dare opine on a topic that you have your finger on the pulse of. You’re just a regular old fan, who just wants the Raiders to win, and doesn’t want unnecessary, superficial attention. Act like it, for once.
February 19th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
I dont think Tigger likes black folks.
Jim Brown said as much and all his trashy hos are white
February 19th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
How is Tiger selfish and a sissy, Pluntkethead?
February 19th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
And considering that the worst case scenario in all of this is that when the dust clears, Tiger walks away a free man with 500 million dollars, I would have to ask you for an explanation as to just how Tiger is stupid, as well.
February 19th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Mamasan looked like she was ready to snip Tiggers balls and lock him up in a cage
February 19th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
Plunkethead, I only hear girls calling other girls “trashy hos”. What is your gender? If you’re a female, its’ cool. Makes that whole incident with you and your son’s pubes less creepy. Kind of funny when a mom makes fun of her son’s pubes. Don’t know why.
February 19th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
MR,
You just want to typefight someone.
I wont waste my time
February 19th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Funny, I’m not picking a “typefight” with Kell, Lynn, 24, 909Raider, or anyone else who’s commented here in the past hour or so. Just you and Vegas. So I think there’s a purpose for it, don’t you think?
February 19th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
I don’t think I’ve ever heard a guy call a girl a “trashy ho”. Those are girls’ fighting words. I can only picture a girl saying that. Why didn’t you tell me you were a woman, plunk? I would have taken it easy on you.
February 19th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
You sure bout that MR? You do remember our bet on the whole Russell starting next year topic right?
February 19th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
Enjoy the night shift at Jerrysworld
February 19th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
Tiger did what he had to, to salvage his image = endorsements/$$$
February 19th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
oh well , guess u gone MR ????
February 19th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
The defense as is would be playoff calibre if the offense was worth its weight in spit.
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This statement is such BS! This defense sucks! What games were you watching?
February 19th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
Clancy,
We barely knew ya. I was hoping his familiarity/relationship (along with a lot of Al’s money) would give the raiders the inside track on luring Karlos Dansby to Oakland. Thereby filling the gaping hole at middle linebacker, and allowing the team to focus it’s draft on both lines.
February 19th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
We started printing THE SPORTING NEWS draft preview today at work. I was reading part of it today. It surprised me that it was printed this early, before the combine, even.
February 19th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Oh snap, Ize ready for some curlin foo! who said that?
February 19th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
Oh snap I cant waits for da raiduhs season…peeps. raiduhs goin all the way in 2010….ya heard me? ooooohhhhiiieieee….who said that?
February 19th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Dakota,
I don’t know if you’re still here or not. I was reading the last thread, and you were less than thrilled with John Marshall @ DC. And you’re right, there wasn’t a big difference between him and Rob Ryan statistically. I like the guy and look forward to year 2. I think last year was laying the foundation. Philly was just a sneak preview of what’s to come. By the end of the season he was utilizing some really nice blitz packages. Most of them utilizing MM. Yes, the run D still needs some serious upgrading, but that may be more personnel than scheme. Meaning they need a new MLB and some new blood rotating in at DT. I think this young defense could be fun to watch next year.
February 19th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
KK, you’re aweful arrogant in here calling people out and calling them names an d demeaning them. Who do you think you are?
You have an opinion and he gave his, why is he stupid because he doesn’t agree with yours?
February 19th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
oooohhhhiiiieeee…oh snap…who said that?
February 19th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
ooohhhiii,..oh snap dis curlin!…Im gonna train, I can do dis,..in fo years Im reppin da usa in curlin!…ya heard me?
February 19th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
# priesttj Says:
February 19th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
KK, you’re aweful arrogant in here calling people out and calling them names an d demeaning them. Who do you think you are?
You have an opinion and he gave his, why is he stupid because he doesn’t agree with yours?
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LMFAO…
Pot??
Meet Kettle!
Don’t be a freaking hypocrite.
Difference is when Kell, or most call someone out, unlike you, they don’t tuck tail, wave the white flag, and meekly retreat to the shallow end of the pool.
Something your cowardly ass has perfected…so shut up, hypocrite.
February 19th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Tiger is a smart man, he did what he needed to do apologize and start getting his endorsement money back. He has enough money to buy the Raiders, imagine that lol
February 19th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
So its all speculation until FA and the draft but here is a wish list from my POV:
The offensive FA’s this year are terrible! but the defensive FA’s are awesome and Defense wins Championships
Priority one is sign Seymore long term!
Peppers is a possibility with the way Al doles out Contracts. However i think he is 30 now is he worth the money he wants?
Dansby would fill a huge need on D! we have not had a good Sam Linebacker in years!
Cromartie??? What happened to this guy after his stellar 2007 season? Could be a good pick up via trade however a risk as well. Only 25 though and athleticism rivaling Asomugha. Not skills though
How great would it be however to have Ellis, Seymore, Kelly, Peppers on the D-line at once. Maybe even luck out and get Terrance Cody in the draft
On Offense however. At #8 pending 40 time I believe we pick Dez Bryant if he is on the board.
DHB was a huge disappointment last season but Russell was as well. Al knows he needs to get as many weapons for him as possible! Dez is the pick like it or not.
O-line i dont have a clue what will happen there as the right side is terrible. I bet Barnes comes back at RT and RG is a toss up.
Watch and you will see
February 19th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
oh yea!
Howard and Morrison will most likey receive Tenders!. Hopefully next year we can stop the run and they can get long term deals!
February 19th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
No way cromartie. The guy got huge issues 5 kids from diff zipcodes, parties crazy I won’t touch that guy, he regressed every year he is huge risk, I like Dez doubt AL takes him cuz that would make him look bad as meaning DHB is a bust
February 19th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
every one of you guys would be jumping at Tiger’s leftovers if you ever would have been capable of hanging in his circle. But you weren’t, and therefore have no idea what it is all about.
February 20th, 2010 at 1:29 am
I am watching NFL network man Patrick Wilis is so humble damn hoped we drafted him instead of DMAC, but I didn’t know Nate Burleason is a FA, I think he can provide depth n mentor these young wrs crew we got in here. To be honest, I see only Murphy as a legit potential number one wr, DHB might be the man but he is a project, Schillens is really a number 3 wr. I don’t see Schillens as a game changer wr or someone CBs will feel threatened by him. Murphy can get open n run deep routes, we need another wr in case DHB struggles during preseason
February 20th, 2010 at 3:28 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 19th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Seymour Bush…
According to Warren Sapp,
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Dear Seymour Bush,
According to Warren Sapp….
Theres’s goes both of your credibiltiy. Please refrain from posting as your credibility is sh**.
February 20th, 2010 at 3:31 am
# KoolKell Says:
February 19th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Seymour Bush etc etc,
On one side of your mouth, you say Al will pay the money for any player he wants. On the other side of your mouth, you say he’s a cheap ass bastard. That’s stupid.
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I said Al Davis is a cheap ass bastard. But, he DOES pay players. But as anyone associated with the league will say, it is a players league. There goes YOUR credibility. The next sound you hear is Real Madden Raider and KoolKell getting flushed down the loo. Is this a shock to anyone? I didn’t think so.
February 20th, 2010 at 3:33 am
get Jake Plummmer!
LOL
February 20th, 2010 at 4:28 am
February 20th, 2010 at 5:14 am
Pendergast is a jerk, and he’s close enough for us to voice our displeasure.Should the Raider Nation support Cal?
February 20th, 2010 at 5:17 am
Lots here do
February 20th, 2010 at 5:22 am
Why are you guys talking about Tiger Woods on this blog? Please keep it on football, there are other places for political rants, etc.I scroll right by the rantings of those who come here for other reasons than football. If you are so pathetic that you consider this a conduit for all your opinions, I pity you.
February 20th, 2010 at 5:24 am
You are right, 4eva. Go Cal. I just want goodness for the Raiders.
February 20th, 2010 at 5:50 am
Souldogdave…..Morning!
Yep this place is something special.When its slow in the Raider world some come here to vent and talk ANYTHING,as most here think this is the best place to be in cyberspace.
The war of words between Dakota and La Millicia Negra are epic battles and very comical,to say the least!
This here brotherhood has seen family members die and other family members start out on lifes journey….
We have met our blog brothers and went out of our way to deliver a “care-package” for those on the road trying to make ends meet!
We have seen fellow brothers reunite with a brother they havent seen in years and the whole blog will gladly give the floor to the reunited brothers
True some here do go off the deep end but thats to be expected from such a well-rounded blog as the Raider Nation
IMHO this is the best blog EVER…..ENJOY
February 20th, 2010 at 5:56 am
Patrick Willis,Adrian Peterson, Darrell Revis , Joe Thomas were all in the 07 draft and we got Russell.
February 20th, 2010 at 5:58 am
I think people here talk Tiger because obviously he is Tiger but also a huge Raiders fan and any Raider fan is cool with me.
February 20th, 2010 at 7:10 am
Good morning all.
February 20th, 2010 at 7:11 am
Nicely put 4eva.
February 20th, 2010 at 7:19 am
Morning Neilb!!!!
warm 2day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 20th, 2010 at 7:22 am
Nope,snowed last night,got an inch worth with more on the way.
February 20th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Or do you mean that you’re warm today!
February 20th, 2010 at 7:58 am
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February 20th, 2010 at 8:03 am
oh snap! yep I B warm 2day
February 20th, 2010 at 8:06 am
you mo fo`s dig dat curlin last nights?! oh snap dat was da chit mang! I dug it, I wil gets me a stone, a silver ands blacks one,…rep da raiduhs at next olypics games. ya heard me?
February 20th, 2010 at 8:15 am
I’m always dressed for the weather 4eva.
February 20th, 2010 at 8:24 am
Gonna catch the premiership results.
Enjoy your Saturday everyone.
February 20th, 2010 at 8:24 am
me too Neilb
February 20th, 2010 at 9:38 am
You know what? We’re all Raider brothers. WE are united because we love Football and The Raiders.
As much as we talk some serious crap with each other, we can get together and have a beer on Sundays with each other.
February 20th, 2010 at 9:43 am
All you guys talking about Raiders love need girlfriends & poodles!
Where is Ricky Bobby?
Word!!
February 20th, 2010 at 9:44 am
but not in that order O lol
February 20th, 2010 at 9:48 am
lol
Good morning 4eva.
I’m playing dude. I mixed some GDP & BlueDream, and im so high….
February 20th, 2010 at 9:56 am
Now I’m ready to go to school. I hate study groups! I have to smoke, so I can tolerate the talking monkeys.
February 20th, 2010 at 10:00 am
Dude I’m married. LOL
I’m just a big Bob Marley fan…
February 20th, 2010 at 10:38 am
wandering through a sporting goods store yesterday I spotted some local team jerseys for sale.
The Raider rack had on display only two numbers, #2 and #20, otherwise known as Phlegm and Flub.
I was curious to see how much the store was attempting to gouge purchasers.
So, I turned over the tag on the #2 jersey and read : JUSTIN FARGAS – $60.
I started laughing. Either the store couldn’t be bothered to get the name of the “franchise?!?” QB correct on the tag or the store was laying all the blame on CrashTest. Fuing Fargas!
February 20th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Jake Plummer was put on the Bucs unrestricted free agent loist today
February 20th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
# souldogdave Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 5:22 am
Why are you guys talking about Tiger Woods on this blog? Please keep it on football, there are other places for political rants, etc.I scroll right by the rantings of those who come here for other reasons than football. If you are so pathetic that you consider this a conduit for all your opinions, I pity you.
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Why do you come on here to discuss what others are discussing that obviously differs from what it is you, and you alone believe should be discussed because you haven’t mastered the fine art of scrolling by?
Wait. You do know about the scroll bar…
In other words, if you are so pathetic that you consider this a conduit for all your opinions?
I pity you.
February 20th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
4eva??
All you left out of your mushy post was “Kumbaya” and impending tea parties.
You’re just so sweet..in your own special way
February 20th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
# RaiderResurrection Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 9:38 am
You know what? We’re all Raider brothers. WE are united because we love Football and The Raiders.
As much as we talk some serious crap with each other, we can get together and have a beer on Sundays with each other.
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You sir, are delusional.
When someone is an a hole, putting on a hat doesn’t change the fact he is, in fact, an a hole.
When someone is a total prick, saying “go Raiders” doesn’t make being around that person any more enjoyable..
With me, of course, being the exception to the rule.
And now you know….
February 20th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
# souldogdave Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 5:14 am
Pendergast is a jerk, and he’s close enough for us to voice our displeasure.Should the Raider Nation support Cal?
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how in the hell can the Raider nation support Cal when THE RAIDER NATION DOESN’T SUPPORT THE RAIDERS???
Why is Pender a jerk? He got a better offer..a much more stable offer…from a much respected organization…with the chances of having that job after ONE YEAR a lot better than had he stayed as an asst with the Raiders….
What you meant to say is “I feel like such a jerk thinking anyone wants to come to the Raiders”
Ok…now…you try it.
With feeling…
February 20th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
thanx Richochet
February 20th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
oh and Kumbaya!
February 20th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
ummm.. lets take a break and watch a movie
February 20th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=Y3PE0245
ok bye
February 20th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
oh and ricochet , id have a beer with u ..then id proceed 2 slap the sh@t outta u . drag u out in the parkin lot , then stuff u in the trunk of your 95 saturn & drive u to a 49er fan bar & leave u there to be sodomized .
February 20th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
umm….we did that and he came back
February 20th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
\m/
February 20th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Jim Plunkett was born to Mexican American parents with an Irish-German great-grandfather on his paternal side. Plunkett’s father was a news vendor afflicted with progressive blindness, who had to support his blind wife along with their three children.[1] In an effort to aid the family’s financial situation, Plunkett worked a series of odd jobs while growing up, including serving as a gas station attendant, grocery store clerk and as a laborer on construction sites. In an acknowledgement of his Mexican roots, Plunkett chose the fictional character of Zorro as his hero.[1]
February 20th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Upon entering Stanford University, Plunkett endured a rough freshman campaign after being weakened by a thyroid operation. His performance originally caused head coach John Ralston to switch him to defensive end, but Plunkett was adamant in remaining at quarterback, throwing 500 to 1,000 passes every day to polish his arm. He earned the opportunity to start in 1968, and in his first game, completed ten of thirteen passes for 277 yards and four touchdowns, never relinquishing his hold on the starting spot. Plunkett’s arrival ushered in an era of wide-open passing, pro-style offenses in the Pac-8, a trend that has continued to the present.
February 20th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
After his junior year, Plunkett became eligible to enter the NFL draft, which would have given him a chance to earn a large roster bonus for himself and his mother. He passed up the chance at a paycheck, however, so that he could set a good example to the chicano youth he had tutored. In his senior year he led Stanford to their first Rose Bowl appearance since 1952, a game that ended with a 27-17 Stanford victory over the favored Ohio State Buckeyes.
February 20th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Plunkett was awarded the 1970 Heisman Trophy given annually to the top college football player in the country. Though he had set so many records on the season, 1970 had been the “Year of the Quarterback,” and Plunkett beat out Notre Dame’s Joe Theismann and Archie Manning of Ole Miss to win the award. He was the first Latino to win the Heisman Trophy. Aside from the Heisman, he captured the Maxwell Award for the nation’s best quarterback and was named player of the year by United Press International, The Sporting News, and SPORT magazine
February 20th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
In 1971, he was drafted with the first overall pick in the NFL draft by the New England Patriots (the team was still known as the Boston Patriots at the time of the draft; the name change to New England did not become official until March 21 of that year). Plunkett owns the distinction of being the only player of Hispanic heritage to be drafted with the first overall pick in the NFL draft. The Patriots finished the season at 6-8, fourth place in the AFC East.
February 20th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Hello Raider fans and Al Davis haters
Heres a bit of trivia you may not have known
Plunkett’s first game was a 20-6 victory over the Oakland Raiders, the Patriots’ first regular-season contest at Scahefer Stadium.
February 20th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
the 49ers released him during the 1978 preseason.
Plunkett then joined the Oakland Raiders in 1978, serving in a reserve capacity over the next two years, throwing no passes in 1978 and just 15 passes in 1979. However, five weeks into the 1980 NFL season, his career took a major turn when starting QB Dan Pastorini fractured his leg in a game against the Kansas City Chiefs. The 33-year-old Plunkett came off the bench to relieve Pastorini, throwing five interceptions in a 31-17 loss.
February 20th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
The Raiders, however, believing that Marc Wilson did not have the experience they wanted, called on Plunkett to start for the remainder of the year. In his first game as a starter, he completed eleven of fourteen passes with a touchdown and no interceptions. Plunkett guided Oakland to nine victories in eleven games and a playoff berth as a wild card. Plunkett led the Raiders to four playoff victories, including the first-ever victory by a wild card team in the Super Bowl, defeating the Philadelphia Eagles 27–10 in Super Bowl XV. Throwing for 261 yards and three touchdowns, Plunkett was named the game’s MVP; subsequently, Plunkett has the distinction of being the first minority to quarterback a team to a Super Bowl victory and the only Hispanic to be named Super Bowl MVP. In addition to this, he became the second of four players to win the Heisman Trophy and Super Bowl MVP, Roger Staubach before him and Marcus Allen, and Desmond Howard after him.
February 20th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
After returning to the backup role in 1983, Plunkett again assumed starting duties, this time after an injury to Wilson. The Raiders advanced to Super Bowl XVIII, where they defeated the Washington Redskins, 38-9. Plunkett completed 16 of 25 passes for 172 yards and a touchdown in the game.
Plunkett spent most of his last three seasons either injured or as a backup. He retired after the 1986 season, and is currently the fourth-leading passer in Raiders history.
Currently, Plunkett does a post-game radio show of Raiders games, and is a co-host of several Raiders TV shows.
February 20th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pztKBICs5IA
Some Plunkett film
February 20th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
The Raider Mystique
Theres some good stuff in this one if you have never seen it. Plunkett is at the end
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGysUa_hJc8&feature=related
February 20th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
Jim steps out with a fine lady on his arm
http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/la/ESPY_awards_arrivals_170708/jim_plunkett_1978451.jpg
February 20th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Was watching your Plunkett clips and stumbled upon this one. Atkinson and Tatum just went around punching guys in the face!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuP0Cldbn10&feature=related
February 20th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Dam. They were busting heads right and left. I like it near the end when he drops the Colt player with a blow to the back of the head after the play and knocks him off his feet.
February 20th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
That was beautiful BWAAAAA HAWWWWWWWW!!!!
February 20th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Vegas, now that’s what real football should be!!
February 20th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Richochet Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
# RaiderResurrection Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 9:38 am
You know what? We’re all Raider brothers. WE are united because we love Football and The Raiders.
As much as we talk some serious crap with each other, we can get together and have a beer on Sundays with each other.
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You sir, are delusional.
When someone is an a hole, putting on a hat doesn’t change the fact he is, in fact, an a hole.
When someone is a total prick, saying “go Raiders” doesn’t make being around that person any more enjoyable..
With me, of course, being the exception to the rule.
And now you know….
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No one was inviting you…
February 20th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
oh and ricochet , id have a beer with u ..then id proceed 2 slap the sh@t outta u . drag u out in the parkin lot , then stuff u in the trunk of your 95 saturn & drive u to a 49er fan bar & leave u there to be sodomized .
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4evaRaider Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
umm….we did that and he came back
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Every Sunday.
February 20th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
Who’s gonna play Nickel in 2010?
A Free Agent?
A draft pick?
One of our Safeties?
One of our Line backers?
All of the above…
February 20th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
# SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
oh and ricochet , id have a beer with u ..then id proceed 2 slap the sh@t outta u . drag u out in the parkin lot , then stuff u in the trunk of your 95 saturn & drive u to a 49er fan bar & leave u there to be sodomized .
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Of COURSE you would, missy…then no doubt you’ll hit me with your purse, put on hand on hip, and give me an official old fashioned tongue wagging.
As only you can.
don’t you just love “online” badasses?
You’re a stupid kid. All stupid kids like to act badass and grown up.
Stupid kids are supposed to raise their hand, and ask for permission to speak.
You can’t even get that right.
Now go clean your room.
February 20th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Richochet Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
# RaiderResurrection Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 9:38 am
You know what? We’re all Raider brothers. WE are united because we love Football and The Raiders.
As much as we talk some serious crap with each other, we can get together and have a beer on Sundays with each other.
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You sir, are delusional.
When someone is an a hole, putting on a hat doesn’t change the fact he is, in fact, an a hole.
When someone is a total prick, saying “go Raiders” doesn’t make being around that person any more enjoyable..
With me, of course, being the exception to the rule.
And now you know….
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No one was inviting you…
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Silly twaddle…comment was “talk some serious crap together”.
Crying like a slapped on little beyotch is NOT talking serious crap..obviously you don’t fall into the equation.
But aren’t you just so sensitive to think you actually were “invited”? lol…you sorryass puppy.
Now..quick…go cry again about how Cable set up Russell to look like the absolute worst starting qb IN THE LEAGUE, IN BACK TO BACK YEARS.
Then go find a spine..anyone will do, considering yours is no where to be found.
February 20th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Wow,Richochet. Get a life.
February 20th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Jerry Mc’s next entry
CONDO SIGNED TO NFL RECORD CONTRACT
While everyone has waiting to see whether Seymour Dick negotiates a contract on par with Elin Nordegren’s take, the Oakland Raiders have re-signed long snapper and pro-bowler Jon Condo to the largest such contract in history ($6.4 million over four years as reported by PFT). The Raiders will neither confirm nor deny that Jon Condo has ever been offered any contract, ever been a consideration, or ever been born.
1) bizmarkie says,
oh snap…
February 20th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Souldogdave,
don’t worry about Lil’ Rico. it does its cut and paste and rant, cut and paste and rant stuff endlessly. just walk on by.
February 20th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Wow, wack-o-sheeit is back. I thought he flew a plane into a building a few days ago.
February 20th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
How sweet…Souldog is all sensitive.
You’re just as precious as you can be, souldog..never change, pumpkin.
February 20th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
LMFAO at Lonetree the Worm..
Uh…dumbass? You just posted something about cut and paste?
Right after YOU post a cut and paste comment?
I apologize.
I stated you couldn’t possibly be as dumb as you look.
I was wrong.
Now..quick…tuck tail…like only you can.
February 20th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
· Oakglenn Says:
August 24th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
See rack- there are two problems with your “theories.” Problem A is the Whiners have NO ONE to THROW the rock to Craptree. Did you actually watch the game??? Alex Smith looked like the biggest POS on earth out there, what was he 3 for 9 for THIRTY YARDS AND A PICK!!! and Shaun Hill was only very marginally better. I’m sure once Craptree saw who was tossing the rock to him, he went FURTHER into hiding!!!
Which brings up Problem B: Craptree is UNSIGNABLE!! It makes no difference if this guy is 9 times better than Jerry Rice. If he doesn’t sign, which hold on here, let’s look again….yup, hasn’t signed, then who gives a flying fook what he can do?? He ISN’T GOING TO SIGN! I told you three weeks ago, that’s why Davis passed on him.
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Tell me SeyMORON-OakGlenn…you ever get tired of posting ignorant crap like this?
I mean…next you’re going to say Russell is a bonified star qb….oh damn..you already said that, didn’t you?
Funniest thing you EVER posted?
OakGlenn: “I’m tired of the way you guys treat me here. I tired of everyone slapping on me. that’s IT!!!. I’m leaving..and NEVER COMING BACK”
Way to go, Captain Black…I mean…Seymour..I mean Oakglenn..I mean…WAIT..who are you today?
Besides a spineless worm?
February 20th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
OMG wack-o, now you are going to play all the archived oakglenn posts over the last decade. Man, you need a life dude. You keep doing wack stuff like that you’ll never get out the ghetto duuuuuuuude. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
February 20th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Sorry Lil’ Rico,
lots of laughs.
I never cut and paste anything. Ever.
The above, or anything else I write is auto-generated. Simple concept. Conceive the idea, express the idea.
No cue cards necessary.
February 20th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
Apologies to have bothered y’all. I can see that the night(mare) crew is hobbling around. Shrug.
Raider On.
February 20th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Just for the heck of it, here’s the highlights of our Turkey day game against Dallas.
On the two Dallas long runs, and the WR screen TD, take a watch at what Morrison is doing in the middle. Completely coming up empty.
He has to be replaced.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riPt6JvZjpY
February 20th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Bruce was our best QB and leader, starting the first preseason game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSVy9M1vrcE&feature=related
February 20th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Hello again, Raiders Fans! How the hell is everyone tonight? My girl’s in N.C. for the weekend, so I’m spending this glorious Saturday night with the internet and UFC 110. Is there any underground news yet? Which RFAs should we put out offer sheets on and why?
February 20th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
And Vegas, I agree with you 100% about Bruce. On opening night, when Jamarcus came out for few plays and Bruce went in, my perspective completely changed. I was greatly impressed with him in the preseason, but I figured it was only because it was preseason and the level of competition wasn’t all starters in games that mattered. After that series against the Chargers, I said the following out loud to my friend Chris: “I’ll be damned… I’m a Bruce f***ing Gradkowski fan.” I was pissed when #2 came back into the game and I’ve done all I could to lobby for Bruce ever since. I’m not saying Bruce is amazing, I’m saying that he’s the best option on the roster (until we see more from Losman).
February 20th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
# M Lonetree Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Souldogdave,
don’t worry about Lil’ Rico. it does its cut and paste and rant, cut and paste and rant stuff endlessly. just walk on by.
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Was a test, silly boy, lol…you dumbass.
See..fool..so far, after you’ve stated..oh..what? Dozen or so times on how you just don’t “bother to read”..or..as above..’just walk on by’??
A simple carrot dangled…and just like that, you prove, yet again, you’re as easy as it gets….hence the following:
M Lonetree Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Sorry Lil’ Rico,
lots of laughs.
I never cut and paste anything. Ever.
The above, or anything else I write is auto-generated. Simple concept. Conceive the idea, express the idea.
No cue cards necessary.
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Now that I’ve exposed your inept ass, yet again, let me school, as is my way.
You obviously haven’t grasped the nuances of “quoting” as compared to cut and paste, fool.
I “quote” posts, only because I don’t live here like so many do, and like many, it makes sense to post what you’re actually replying to.
Again, you, being a confused little man, needs to look at Kell, for example, on “cutting and pasting” someone else’s comments, as compared to “quoting”.
I know..I know…all this new fangled stuff baffles you..I can tell.
Of course, in that you contribute little to nothing, with the majority of your posts being lost in the shuffle, with little to no notice, no small surprise you can’t follow the dots.
Ok…NOW is when you go reply to someone, prompting a retort that gives you the momentary warm and fuzzy you’ll be seeking, hoping to ward off the feeling I was dead on.
You may go now.
February 20th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Watching Tatum and Atkinson’s careers was unforgetable. They simply dominated centerfield.But even the outside was covered extremely well by Brown and Thomas. that was a great group.
Mitchell and Branch have that same ability short of the style of play they are outstanding talents maybe as good as that tandem in time. Even Huff is a great talent with the ability to run and hit. He’s going to get a lot better. This secondary is very talented and tough. WE need at least one LB capable of intimidation and great play. A Brandon Spikes would fit very well if he last until the 2nd rnd as did Reyrey.
Jim Plunkett was the most talented QB I’ve ever seen especially in college I would go to games at Stanford and watch what I thought was incredible QB play. Better than most pro QB’s. When he beat the Raiders as a fresh face rookie I was stunned but later as a Pat he endured severe brutality. He was never the same if he had gone to a better team he would’ve been the single great QB in NFL history. I firmly believe that he was way ahead of his time.
When I first saw Russell I saw a similar talent he wasn’t coached nearly as well as Plunkett was in college. Plunkett recieved the best coaching conceavable. On that Stanford staff was Bill Walsh, Dick Vermiel, Sam Wyche and the great John Ralston. That was just the offensive staff The defense was just a talented on the coaching staff with Rod Rust as the DC.
February 20th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
tjpriest you ok wit me mang…im finna watch russell smoke it dis year,…all da way baby,..oh snap he goona do it…who said that?
February 20th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
^
February 20th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
Oh geez priest..you’re saying Plunkett was playing AT STANFORD, and at the SAME TIME WALSH, VERMEIL, WYCHE AND RALSTON WERE also all there at the same time??
YOU’RE NUTS.
February 20th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
Howdy there, Mr. Rick O’Shea. I’ve only been posting for a few days, but I quickly discovered that Priest is a retarded idiot who has no idea what he’s talking about. I’m certain that he will reply to your post by saying that what he said is 100% accurate… and that he knows this because he talks to several College Presidents, Athletic Directors, and coaches as an ancillary source of information to go along with what he gets from his regular long chats with NFL owners, GMs, coaches, coordinators, scouts, and insiders. It’s best to just ignore the stupid drivel that spews forth from him.
“Never argue with an idiot, they’ll just bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
February 20th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
He’ll undoubtedly say that every coach that he mentioned isn’t listed as being on Stanford’s staff simultaneously with Plunkett is because of *insert ridiculous reason he made up.* Then he’ll say that just because the records don’t say they were all there at the same time with Plunkett doesn’t make it true and that you are the uneducated one for not knowing the inside scoop.
February 20th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
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February 20th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Yeah, Steve, priest has a reputation of folding like a cheap lawn chair when confronted….when he’s wrong he NEVER admits it..which is a sign of not only insecurity, but ensuring he maintains his position of zero credibility.
You ever hear TJ on the radio? lol… it’s like listening to this old muttering stumbling fool who completely butchers the Queen’s English…slurring his words, ghetto as hell.
If you ever hear JR talk?
TJ makes JR sound articulate, lol…and that’s not a stretch.
February 20th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
Unfortunately, I haven’t heard him… but after that description, I feel like I HAVE TO. I moved from Pacifica back to Virginia last August (got here obviously just in time to miss going to the Monday night opener). I’d love to get a link if there are any webcasts of his radio appearances. I’m sure he says that he “drops some knowledge” from “insider sources.” If the show(s) that he calls are simulcast online, just tell me a time and I’ll wake up early to check it out if I have to.
You now have me thinking of Priest as a black, uneducated Patton Oswalt from “Big Fan.” Was Priest the guy who got beaten down by a 67-year old white dude on the AC Transit bus the other day? “Bring uh Ambuh-LANCE.” (No racism meant, just mocking ignorance and stupidity… if any of you connect that with someone’s race, that’s YOUR racial issue, not mine)
February 20th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
You guys can’t possibly get on here everyday, even in the offseason, and talk Raider football strategy can you? I’m only here cuz I’m mentally disabled. You guys should be better than that.
February 20th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
Djohnny, I’ve only been posting here for a few days. I registered because my girl went to N.C. til next week and I’m going to be cooped up and bored (all the times that I came here before were just to kill a few minutes when I had the time by reading the comments after an article), otherwise I’d get myself into trouble with my wandering eye and my old friends if I left the house too much in her absence. However, I see nothing wrong with coming here every day.
People are all passionate about something, from jogging to checking the prices of stocks that they’ll never buy to cleaning the mirrors in the bathroom every day to make sure that they’re just right. If someone enjoys coming here on a daily basis, even just to instigate and act stupid, that’s their prerogative. We all have our vices and our favorite ways to spend/waste time. I’m sure that if you had to go work a 9-5, you’d find something equally meaningless and stupid (to other people) to do every day as posting here might seem to you.
February 21st, 2010 at 12:07 am
hahhaahahahah, I can’t believe the level envy in here. Just because you don’t know doesn’t mean it aint true. Little know nothings hating on a ture playa.
As they say don’t hate the playa hate the game.
Ignorance is bliss. lol Ignorance I can forgive stupidity is much more trying. Sorry fellas Bill, Dick and Sam all started their careers with the great John Ralston and Jim and I have discussed it once.
Hate On !!! suckas. There is only one Priest and I am he………you’ll just have to except who you are. Out!!
February 21st, 2010 at 12:45 am
Starting their careers there isn’t the same as them all being on the staff when Plunkett was there, as you said earlier. Maybe you should learn more about how to phrase sentences correctly to convey the intended meaning while you’re back at grammar school trying to get yourself above a third grader’s spelling and reading comprehension level.
February 21st, 2010 at 12:47 am
Couldn’t sleep.
This blog is just what I needed.
They should make insomniacs who don’t respond to heavy drugs read this dribble.
February 21st, 2010 at 12:53 am
Just to clarify for you, since you seem to be incapable of understanding what anyone says: No one said that Walsh, Vermiel, Wyche, and Ralston didn’t coach at Stanford. It’s just that they weren’t all there WITH Plunkett (as YOU said). Do you understand now? Your last post didn’t do anything to change how wrong you are, it merely made an ancillary point that didn’t affect the real issue at all… I guess that’s really all that you COULD do, though… because nothing you say could change how wrong you were in the first place, so it’s better to just divert and then say, “I’m awesome, you suck!” Seriously, no one hates. We pity. If you truly had inside connections and were having all these long talks with GMs, coaches, and owners… you wouldn’t constantly drop names and talk about it all. You’re just a sad little poser. It’s okay, though. If it makes you feel better, I’ll agree from now on and play along with your delusions.
Attention everyone: I saw Priest having lunch with Al Davis, Jerry Jones, and Dan Snyder just last week, guys. Priest was explaining how to best deal with the free agent situation this offseason, breaking down the draft, and advising them about how best to handle their finances in this capless season. The pure awesomeness that is Priest cannot accurately be described by words in this or any other language. It was truly breathtaking.
February 21st, 2010 at 4:15 am
Oh JOY of JOYS….we are saved!
February 21st, 2010 at 6:08 am
Construction jobs are coming back?
February 21st, 2010 at 6:10 am
About dam time
I was hoping Obummer was gonna announce something big in Vegas to appease Dirty Harry but the old goat has no clout and could not bring home the bacon for Nevada. Maybe we can trade him for DMAC
February 21st, 2010 at 6:20 am
Cheap energy would solve our ills. Industry would jet back to the States by the boatloads if we went on a nat gas bender. Convert service stations into more then just gas pumps. Drill off the coast and start burning coal in our cars. They were doing it 60 years ago. We can burn coal very clean. The diesel engine is a working marvel and should be in small cars.
If you dont start with common sense solutions such as the above we have seen the end of prosperity and we will soon be just like Mexico.
February 21st, 2010 at 6:21 am
GOOD MORNING SEMIPROFESSIONAL RAIDER BLOGGERS!!!!!!!
February 21st, 2010 at 6:22 am
DAMIT JERRY WAKE YOUR ARSE UP AND GIVE US A NEW BLOG
February 21st, 2010 at 6:25 am
What do you mean? Barack was out here with Prince Harry at a private ultra-wealthy event with a 30K door charge finding ways to help the middle class.
The Maloof’s and Kings rookie Tyreke Evans were their as well. I mean if you can’t find ways to improve the economy from a 20 years NBA millionaire who was involved in a murder 2 years ago, who can you?
February 21st, 2010 at 6:35 am
I was gonna type a funny reply. Then I started thinking about what you typed. I saw all the truth in it, then I got to feeling real sad for our children because they have to grow up in bankrupt nation we the people have allowed the banksters and politicians to steal from us.
February 21st, 2010 at 6:37 am
Vegas
Whats your email?
February 21st, 2010 at 6:37 am
Involved in a drive-by murder in 2007, hanging with the president in 2010.
Only in America.
February 21st, 2010 at 6:38 am
raidersfanlv@yahoo.com
February 21st, 2010 at 6:40 am
good morning Nation. Long time no post.. So I guess my main question is will the be competition @ HC this year?
February 21st, 2010 at 6:40 am
How about Ayers
From pipebombing policemen to personal white house visits.
February 21st, 2010 at 6:49 am
Will there be?
I think Cable has the reins so to speak and I believe he will do an excellant job. Anyone on staff who is not onboard with the Raider drive and desire of Coach Tom will have to answer to the pimp hand.
Just ask Randy
February 21st, 2010 at 6:52 am
Depends on Al Davis’ delusion towards Jamarcus Russell. If he is still insisting on starting him, and we lose (good chance) Cable could be fired by week 5.
If Al comes to his senses (not a good chance) and we play the best QB, than Cable has a fighting chance.
February 21st, 2010 at 7:00 am
Good Morning a.m. crew!
February 21st, 2010 at 7:10 am
USA vs Canada in hockey tonight ehh..
February 21st, 2010 at 7:29 am
Good morning Raider nation
February 21st, 2010 at 7:33 am
The draft and free agency has to be focused on the OL and DT and nothing else.
The offense will continue to struggle until Al Davis’ favored draft picks step up and play to the level they are being paid too.
So, while the offense struggles, its important that the Raiders have a defense that can keep the score close and an offensive line that can at least open up holes for the running game.
Focusing on skill players before fixing the lines is the reason this team stands in ruin.
1st Rd: Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
2nd Rd: Best available OL
3rd Rd: Best available OL
3rd Rd: Best available CB (for Nickle situations)
4th Rd: LB
As for the MLB…HAVE to go with a free agent veteran. You all are fooling yourselves if you think a rookie MLB is going to come into this system and function. We need someone that already knows how to play at a high level and doesn’t need a lot of coaching. Someone that will not need a lot of protection in the scheme…someone that can win 1-1 matchups….Get a veteran like Ruud…and plug him in there.
February 21st, 2010 at 7:41 am
Of course…if Taylor Mays runs under 4.3…he WILL BE A RAIDER…Remember Michael Huff is due some $5 million. so if Mays gets that low 40x…Mays comes on board and Huff gets the boot.
Mays will be this year’s Darius Heyward-Bey
February 21st, 2010 at 7:44 am
Please no Taylor Mays. That is my biggest fear for our 1st rounder.
I’d much rather have Dez Bryant if Al is going to do his speed/size thing he always does.
February 21st, 2010 at 7:46 am
SNB,
I agree with you. It should be obvious to Al and everyone else, this team needs strengthened along both sides of the line of scrimmage. RG, RT, and DT all need upgraded. However, if the Raiders are unable to bring in Dansby, Ruud or Pierce at MLB, I would have no problem drafting McClain in the 1st or hoping Spikes slides to the 2nd ala Rey and Laurenitis last year. Capt. Kirk has to be replaced in the middle. I like the guy he’s just not big and physical enough for me. He doesn’t fill his gap responsibilities.
February 21st, 2010 at 7:49 am
Vegas,
The reality is that Al Davis has certain beliefs. We know he loves athleticsm and we know he loves defensive backs.
He also would rather be right than consistent
So best believe that Taylor Mays is working on nothing else but getting his 40x down.
He nails that 40 this week, he guarantees himself a top 10 selection and millions of dollars. Of course he will then be considered the next great safety by people in here.
Without Davis, Mays is a 2nd round pick.
February 21st, 2010 at 7:51 am
“Without Davis, Mays is a 2nd rd pick”. Explanation please.
February 21st, 2010 at 7:53 am
Please No Taylor Mays. Last year I was hoping the guy was coming out, and the Raiders would grab him. But last year while Raider safeties Huff, Branch and even Mitchell were progressing nicely, Mays play seem to slip.He got exposed in coverage, and for a safety who’s supposed to be so physical, didn’t he get run over by Jimmy Clausen at the goal line? So no to Mays. I preer our young safeties.
February 21st, 2010 at 7:53 am
Buckeye,
I think you have to go all in and fix the lines first. I would hate for the next MLB draft pick to be ruled a bust because he’s fighting off guards and centers with regularity because the DTs seek to penetrate and not stand up and push O-Lineman.
ALso, the Raiders are not very good at developing young talent. I would rather get an MLB that is playing behind a solid middle line. Without that support, plus the one-on-one coverage responsibilities, plus being the QB of the defense that guy will be set up to fail.
I say we go all in with the lines and either go free agent with MLB or wait till next year.
This team is not as close as some may think anyway
February 21st, 2010 at 7:56 am
I don’t think Mays will fall into the 2nd round.
He should go in the 20-25 range, IMO
February 21st, 2010 at 7:58 am
RaiderRon Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 7:51 am
“Without Davis, Mays is a 2nd rd pick”. Explanation please.
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Mays looked poor in drills in Mobile. What I am saying is that Al Davis favors athletics over skillset. He favors speed over football IQ…or production.
Davis believes that speed can’t be taught while the other stuff can be taught.
Therefore, if Mays gets 40x at 6′3 230…Davis will choose him in a minute for the statistics alone.
Whereas, other teams will not see him as a sure thing (which is what a top 10 is supposed to be) and will rate him in the 2nd round
February 21st, 2010 at 7:59 am
Taylor Mays kinda reminds me of Huff back in 2006 Draft!
February 21st, 2010 at 8:01 am
So, your saying T Mays doesnt have football IQ and wasnt productive in college??
February 21st, 2010 at 8:02 am
And dont mistake my questions as not agreeing with you on how Davis drafts. He is the worst draft day GM in football. And its not close.
February 21st, 2010 at 8:07 am
Mays is said to study the game. How’s his tackling skills? How did he finish 2009 vs 2008?
Changing subjects: Do the Raiders really need another doggone safety?
Is it ok for Tyvon Branch, a SS, to have 124 tackles? What does that say about the front 7?
How do we fix this team and stop the plan of collecting 40x workout warriors and strong armed QBs that dont’ understand their position
February 21st, 2010 at 8:07 am
And while it’s true Al has drafted skill positions with his last three high 1st rnd picks, it’s not like he hasn’t tried to upgrade the lines in the past. People act like all he does is draft “fast guys”. Just a few years ago he drafted Gallery with the 2nd overall pick. And then chose Grove in the second. He’s also drafted Mo Collins and Matt Stinchcomb in the first round. He drafted Darrell Russell with the second overall, even though he really traded up to grab Orlando Pace. His old buddy Bill Parcells pulled a fast one on him. However it’s past time to refocus on improving the O-Line.
February 21st, 2010 at 8:08 am
Taylor Mays is a high IQ guy who was productive in college. He does need to show better ball skills but the kid is a good player and I would imagine when he gets to the combine most GMs and coaches will drool over the guy, not just Al Davis. He is NFL ready and he wont last to r
February 21st, 2010 at 8:09 am
RD 2.
February 21st, 2010 at 8:11 am
Taylor Mays can tackle.
USCs d regressed last year as a whole.
The Raiders should NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT draft a safety.
February 21st, 2010 at 8:15 am
I don’t think Mays is a top 10 pick! More like a late 1st early second!
I’m not saying he scks, I just don’t think we should waste an overall 8 pick!
February 21st, 2010 at 8:17 am
Huff came out of his shell this year, if you ask me!
February 21st, 2010 at 8:23 am
Perhaps I am hard on Mays. Just going off of what I hear in the media etc…
Consensus seems to state that this guys has his issues and his production did tail off. He had a questionable Senior Bowl etc..
But my point is not to trash Mays….that’s not fair.
My point is that Al Davis will draft the kid because he runs an eye-popping 40x. And that’s the same reasoning that gave us a wide receiver that couldn’t average 1 catch a game
February 21st, 2010 at 8:25 am
As for the D-Line…the last D-Lineman drafted with a 1st round pick was over a decade ago.
Yet the Raiders have drafted soooo many DBs.
That’s why your Raiders are one of the softest teams in the NFL
February 21st, 2010 at 8:26 am
Round 1 – offensive lineman
Round 2 – offensive lineman
Round 3 – offensive lineman
Round 3 – offensive lineman
the Raider defense gave up ~ 23 pts/game last year. middle of the road in the NFL. Plug a decent MLB in the equation and the D should be okay.
With their best O-lineman (Gallery) hurt for half the season, that left a serviceable Super Mario and not much else (unless you consider Chris, Samson, Cooper, Mop Handle and the rest better than not much).
Yes, most rookie O-linemen in the NFL could wear “Elvis Patterson” on the backs of their jerseys as they learn the game at the pro level, but the present crop of o-lineman need to be plowed under and the soil re-planted.
an offense that averages 13 points per game isn’t going to win many games even with a 2000 Ravens defense.
and it all begins and ends in the trenches.
February 21st, 2010 at 8:29 am
Good post Buckeye.
February 21st, 2010 at 8:31 am
I’m not dissing Mays. Like I said I was hoping he was coming out last year. I remember a hit he made his junior year.. he knocked out the receiver and his own corner. They were both down. The hit was almost Tatum-esque. However, the Raiders have a glut at safety as is. And this team has glaring holes elsewhere that need to be filled with a top ten pick. I don’t care if Mays runs a sub 4.2 at 230 lbs. No way can they afford to take him. Not with the holes at OL, DL and MLB.
Since Mays didn’t declare last year I was hoping for his SC teammate Rey M.
February 21st, 2010 at 8:50 am
The sad thing is, the Great Raider teams of the past were sooo strong in the trenches. The Shell, Upshaw, Otto-Dalby lines of the 70’s were considered the greatest offensive lines in NFL history. In the 80’s their defensive lines were always amongst the best. I remember reading one of those preseason preview mags in the mid-eighties that said:”It’s no surprise the Raiders led the league last year with 67 sacks, what is a surprise is that they didn’t get 100 with their embarrassment of riches upfront.” Those D-lines had Howie Long, Greg Townsend, Sean Jones and Bill Pickel. They just attacked quarterbacks in waves. It’s time For Al to refocus on, and strengthen both lines.Where football games are won and lost, in the trenches.
February 21st, 2010 at 9:01 am
Gene Upshaw used to say in those old NFL Films: “The offensive line is the heart of the team. It’s the heartbeat of the team. Without the line, nothing else can function.” Still as true today as it ever was.
February 21st, 2010 at 9:18 am
Vegas,
Earlier you implied Bruce was the “best” option at Qb. As long as “Delusional Al” didn’t force Jamarcus on Cable, the Raiders have a chance. Do you think that if, just maybe, Jamarcus comes to camp in shape, humbled by last years debacle, and rededicated, that he would be the “best” option at quarterback. Or have you written him off completely, like many Raider fans apparently have?
February 21st, 2010 at 9:49 am
Buckeye,
you have made more sense in an hour here this Sunday morning than is made on this site in an entire year.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:01 am
Buckeyeraider,
I haven’t written him off completely, but I am about 97% there.
I never have much faith in guys whose dedication is questioned. Those guys very rarely ever turn it around.
I hope I am wrong and Jamarcus wins many AFC west championships. I just think Bruce gives us our best chance to win the division in 2010, and than go from there.
These preseason games should be interesting if Bruce and Jamarcus are both competing for the gig.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:17 am
Thanks Lonetree. I’ve always loved the Raiders. They’ve been a lifelong obsession, really. I have three little girls, so most of my free time is spent at basketball/softball practice and games. I don’t golf, hunt or fish. Raider football is my “hobby”, I guess. A friend introduced me to this site a couple of years ago. I just read it for the longest time. Now I like to get on here, when I get a chance, and talk football with fellow Raider fans.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:28 am
That’s cool Vegas. I guess I’m one of the dwindling few who still have high hopes for the guy. Rose colored glasses maybe. One concern I do have with JR is that if he has a beer gut, and this much trouble controlling his weight at 24, what’s he going to be like as he nears 30. He’ll be 350+. In that case the Raiders may have found their answer at nose tackle.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:35 am
The guy doesn’t play with any passion. As Seymour Bush said, Bruce and Frye got the offense playing a lot quicker.
With Russell, he is always barely getting the snap off, with 1 or 2 seconds on the play-clock and giving the D-line a big advantage.
Very lethargic style of play. Rocket of an arm, but that alone won’t get it done.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:50 am
I’m hoping last year was just the mother of all sophmore slumps. I know technically it was his third year, but his rookie year was a complete washout because of his contract stalemate/holdout. I look at ‘08 as his “rookie” year. And his first 15 starts he played fairly well. He definitely had his ups and downs. 2,400 yards 13 td’s and only 8 picks. Compares favorably to other young qb’s like Stafford and Sanchez who threw 20+. The kid in Tampa threw 18 in only 10 starts. His last six starts in ‘08 he averaged a 90+ qb rating.
Then, something went terribly wrong. Whether he got complacent, and thought he had it all figured out. I don’t know. But he showed up out of shape, ill prepared, and lost his teammates and the fans. Hopefully the benching by Cable and the booing by fans served as a wake up call. If reports are true and he is working out in AZ, that is a promising start. I still think the kid has unlimited potential, and can be special. But, he has to want it and be willing to work at it.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:51 am
Didn’t any of you goofballs see Priesst get beat up by the old whacked out Vietnam vet on that bus going to SF earlier in the week.
He was trying to explain to the old vet why Al Davis does what he does and the vietnam vet got tired of it and socked Priesst up! LOL
February 21st, 2010 at 10:56 am
# buckeyeraider Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 8:31 am
I’m not dissing Mays. Like I said I was hoping he was coming out last year. I remember a hit he made his junior year.. he knocked out the receiver and his own corner. They were both down. The hit was almost Tatum-esque. However, the Raiders have a glut at safety as is. And this team has glaring holes elsewhere that need to be filled with a top ten pick. I don’t care if Mays runs a sub 4.2 at 230 lbs. No way can they afford to take him. Not with the holes at OL, DL and MLB.
Since Mays didn’t declare last year I was hoping for his SC teammate Rey M.
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Taking Mays at #8 overall would be ANOTHER STUPID Al Davis draft pick when OT, DT, RDE, and LB are far higher priorities for this crazy football team.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:58 am
Hey!
Didn’t any of you goofballs see Priesst get beat up by the old whacked out Vietnam vet on that bus going to SF earlier in the week.
He was trying to explain to the old vet why Al Davis does what he does and the Nam vet got tired of it and socked Priesst up! LOL
February 21st, 2010 at 11:36 am
# M Lonetree Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 8:26 am
an offense that averages 13 points per game isn’t going to win many games even with a 2000 Ravens defense.
and it all begins and ends in the trenches.
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LMAO…
Wow…gosh…thanks Capt Obvious.
did you think of that all on your own?
How astute…oh my oh my..you are so right..you perceived, conceived, and relayed..all on your own.
Please give us more in depth insight…
how about something on the line of “the runner has to hold onto the ball”??? or “D line has to penetrate if they want to get a sack”???
You know…something that no one else knows.
Admit it, Lonedork..you don’t follow football much..do you?
February 21st, 2010 at 11:47 am
Richochet Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Richochet Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Richochet Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
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Here is the definition of loser:
On a Saturday night on Planet Earth, this moron can’t think of anything else to do other than get on the internet and troll. Obviously, poor wack-o can’t get a date. Now Scott Peterson can get dates, and he murdered his wife and unborn child,and he is in prison, but still wack-o can’t. The absolute definition of loser. Right wack-o?
February 21st, 2010 at 11:54 am
# DKnight007 Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 10:58 am
Hey!
Didn’t any of you goofballs see Priesst get beat up by the old whacked out Vietnam vet on that bus going to SF earlier in the week.
He was trying to explain to the old vet why Al Davis does what he does and the Nam vet got tired of it and socked Priesst up! LOL
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I think that guy was too young to be priest. Priest said he used to go to Stanford games in the 60’s..where he stupidly stated:
“Plunkett recieved the best coaching conceavable. On that Stanford staff was Bill Walsh, Dick Vermiel, Sam Wyche and the great John Ralston. That was just the offensive staff The defense was just a talented on the coaching staff with Rod Rust as the DC.”
Of course, this is where priest states “oh…uh…I used to go to Stanford games, and observed Plunkett being “the best qb I had EVER seen” when I was just 7…and then I would sit and discuss defensive formations with Ralston…YOU GUYS JUST DON’T KNOW”.
Why do I get the feeling priest IS one of those people who roam around on buses, or walks down Market St, babbling to himself…arguing with himself?
February 21st, 2010 at 12:09 pm
and we HAVE A WINNER OF “LOSER OF THE DAY”.
It’s a lock…SEYMOUR BUSH HAS ME ON AN “ALERT”, lol.
Look…this is what? 3 of the last 4 days?
I POST and within MINUTES..there is he..posting..just to me.
Dude..how sorryass are you?
YOU SIT THERE AND REFRESH THE BROWSER, ALL DAY LONG..just waiting for me?
Damn…lol…am I good…OR WHAT???
LOSER!!!!..just slap a big L on your forehead, Oakglenn..you are officially..forever…MY BEYOTCH.
February 21st, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Oh …Oakglenn? I told you…dumbass…I’M MARRIED.
You remember, right?
Friday night..YOU COME ON AND SAY “You’re a loser..YOU DON’T HAVE A DATE”.
I then informed your ignorant ass that I was married..however..WAY TO POINT OUT THAT YOU DON’T HAVE A DATE.. I.E. LOSER.
Your reply? the classic crap on your own shoe reply??
Oakglenn: ‘Oh..I have a date..she’s really hot. I just pushed her away to come reply to you”
Could you ben any more pathetic..if you took a class?
Could you try any harder to be my own personal beyotch?
The answer to both is no.
February 21st, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Richochet Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Oh …Oakglenn? I told you…dumbass…I’M MARRIED.
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Buying a Korean love bride isn’t being married. It’s sexual slavery. And having a life sized poster of Heidi Klum above your bed isn’t being married either. Unless it is in your delusional world.
February 21st, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Richochet Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Richochet Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Richochet Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Richochet Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 11:36 am
Richochet Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 11:54 am
Richochet Says:
Richochet Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Dude..how sorryass are you?
YOU SIT THERE AND REFRESH THE BROWSER, ALL DAY LONG.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Couldn’t have said it better myself. Right sorryass?
February 21st, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Richochet Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Oh …Oakglenn? I told you…dumbass…I’M MARRIED.
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And BTW, no one cares to hear your life story. Booorrring.
February 21st, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Richochet Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Oh …Oakglenn? I told you…dumbass…I’M MARRIED.
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So you’re married and you STILL couldn’t get a date on Saturday night? You’re an EVEN BIGGER LOSER than any of us thought! If that was possible.
February 21st, 2010 at 12:54 pm
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February 21st, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Darrell Green, CB, Hall of Fame. Yes, we know he’s retired, but did you see he ran a 4.43 40 on his 50th birthday? Did we mention Davis loves speed?
February 21st, 2010 at 1:02 pm
Lynn,
He’s already tried to lure Howie out of the Hall/retirement. Don’t give him any more ideas.
February 21st, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Besides, this young team might need some more veteran leadership. But not quite that “veteran”.
February 21st, 2010 at 1:11 pm
buckeyeraider Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 10:50 am
I’m hoping last year was just the mother of all sophmore slumps. I know technically it was his third year, but his rookie year was a complete washout because of his contract stalemate/holdout. I look at ‘08 as his “rookie” year. And his first 15 starts he played fairly well. He definitely had his ups and downs. 2,400 yards 13 td’s and only 8 picks. Compares favorably to other young qb’s like Stafford and Sanchez who threw 20+. The kid in Tampa threw 18 in only 10 starts. His last six starts in ‘08 he averaged a 90+ qb rating.
Then, something went terribly wrong.
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Buckeye I wouldn’t say something went wrong, I think a lot of things went wrong. Number One is Russell seemed to mail it in, so complacency was certainly part of it. Things went downhill once Shilens went out, and went further downhill once Gallery went out. Opponents wisely game planned to take away the run and make Russell beat them with two rookies. That was a plan that we never overcame. That’s all the bad news. By picking up some decent Olinemen in this draft, and having everyone basically healthy with Shilens/Murphy/DHB coming in a bit more seasoned, the Raiders have the foundation to build.
February 21st, 2010 at 1:22 pm
By the way, Congrats to SeaBass. I’m glad he got paid. He got snubbed in the pro bowl this year. He has quietly become one of the best kickers in the league. He was a controversial pick, and his career got off to a rocky start. But he has persevered.
My favorite Jano moment came in Denver in ‘08. JLH had just returned a punt to the house in a 31-10 beat down of the Broncos. (A game I believe JR was like 10 of 11, by the way). Anyway JLH takes one to the house, and celebrates by doing a backflip. He gets penalized 15 yards for unsportsmanlike. The announcers make a big deal out of it. “What a stupid mistake. Really going to cost his team, Denver’s going to get excellent field position, yada, yada, yada”. Seabass comes out and booms it like 5 yards deep. Denver doesn’t even get it out to the 20. He is one of a kind.
February 21st, 2010 at 1:28 pm
That 61 yarder in frozen Azz Cleveland Browns stadium this year was pretty impressive also. That ball must have felt like kicking a bowling ball.
Before he is done, I believe he is going to shatter Dempsy/Elam’srecord. I’m surprised he hasn’t already.
February 21st, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Yep, still LMFAO at Oakglenn…too damn stupid to realize his idiot replies don’t negate the fact I just beyotch slapped him down..with some help from him.
Again, Oakglenn, regale us how YOU post here, on Thursday night, Friday night, AND Saturday night..and then stupidly state someone else DOESN’T HAVE A DATE??
Oh..and then? You state “you’re married and still can’t get a date on Saturday night”??
Are you retarded?
Seriously.
Yes, yes, I know..everyone knows you’re “slow”…everyone knows you’re…uh…dense. Everyone pretty much slaps you around..but dude..asking a married person why they don’t have a date on Saturday night?
Kind of ignorant..isn’t it?
When you have kids, you don’t have the luxury of going out every weekend…you’ll learn that when you grow up, and actually find a woman.
Now…again…why is it you are here Thursday, Friday, AND Saturday night? lol…
We know the answer..don’t we, Board Beyotch. (Yes, yes, I admit..I made you my beyotch long after Brown, Kell, MR..slew of others made you their beyotch)
I can share
February 21st, 2010 at 1:36 pm
A guy was here a few days ago saying how we just over payed for Janikowski. But in the SD game last year, the lst game of the season, the Raiders drive down the field and get picked, stuff SD, and get the ball back, and come down and score. Jano kicks off, Sproales breaks it, and Jano makes the tackle. SD gets the ball at around the Raider 30, and they get a FG, but Jano saved a TD. And he has done that more than once. How much is THAT worth?
February 21st, 2010 at 1:37 pm
go find your blow up doll wack-o. No one cares what you think.
February 21st, 2010 at 1:39 pm
wack-o’s “wife = most unlucky person on Earth.
February 21st, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Yep to me that 61 yarder in the cold and wind of Cleveland is more impressive that the record 63 yarder by Dempsey or elam
February 21st, 2010 at 1:51 pm
I agree Seymuor. But if you try to give any reason’s for Russell’s struggles in here other than the preferred ones that he is fat, lazy and stupid, then you get accused of coddling him, making excuses, and towing the company line. I split the blame evenly for last season. 50 % on Jamarcus for his effort, or lack thereof. Being out of shape and unprepared is just unprofessional. The other half goes to situations beyond his control. Like the injuries to Chaz, gallery, and DMac. His having to rely on two raw rookie wideouts who let him down by running poor routes and dropping passes. To Cable’s decision to alter the offense from the previous year, and feature deeper routes. There is enough blame for last years offensive ineptitude to go around.
With that, I’m out. Enjoy your Sunday’s gentleman.
February 21st, 2010 at 1:51 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Richochet Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Richochet Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Richochet Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Richochet Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 11:36 am
Richochet Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 11:54 am
Richochet Says:
Richochet Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Dude..how sorryass are you?
YOU SIT THERE AND REFRESH THE BROWSER, ALL DAY LONG.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Couldn’t have said it better myself. Right sorryass?
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Difference is…you left out the rest of my comment.
See…I come on and slap on whoever…YOU???
YOU POST TO ME WITHIN MINUTES OF ME POSTING…each and every day…4 DAYS IN A Row.
YEAH..LET ME LAUGH AT YOU AGAIN, YOU DUMBASS..courtesy of you pasting my post times….THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY YOU COULD POSSIBLY POST TO ME, IMMEDIATELY AFTER MY INITIAL POST, AND THAT’S IF YOU SIT THERE, AND REFRESH, OVER AND OVER AND OVER…see..you don’t post..you just wait for me.
I refresh, read, and post where I want…
YOU? ROFLMFAO..you just wait for me..you look for me…ALLLLLL DAYYYYY LOOOOOONNNNG…and as soon as I post..THERE YOU ARE…like a little insecure puppy.
HOURS YOU SPEND, NOT POSTING….just looking for me…
dude…that is so freaking pathetic…seriously…I mean, I have you jumping through hoops..don’t I? lol…
yep..you’re my beyotch, Oakglen/Seymour…like it or not.
February 21st, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Looks like wack-o has blown a fuse. Just like that other troll that blew a fuse and started babbling racist crap. Sucks to be you wack-o. Sucks even more to be your “wife”. BTW, you did get married in Massachusetts right? It’s still legal there.
February 21st, 2010 at 1:57 pm
#396 is a good post.
February 21st, 2010 at 2:20 pm
well . somebodys gotta be good in the draft .. is it the raiders organizations fault 4 not making these guys better pros ?
February 21st, 2010 at 2:26 pm
lets watch a good movie again
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=Y3PE0245
February 21st, 2010 at 2:27 pm
rocky said in rocky 6 . its not bout hard u get hit bit how hard u can get hit and get back up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 21st, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Having a constant coaching carousel is certainly a problem in developing young players. That is true even in teams that draft well.
February 21st, 2010 at 4:25 pm
Buckeye –
Besides both living in the Buckeye state we both have a lot in common I live in Dublin, OH. Three little girls as well and the closest I get to a field is lacrosse. The only hitting that goes on is when they happen to get mad or bump into each other. At least we both have them in sports.
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buckeyeraider Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 10:17 am
Thanks Lonetree. I’ve always loved the Raiders. They’ve been a lifelong obsession, really. I have three little girls, so most of my free time is spent at basketball/softball practice and games. I don’t golf, hunt or fish. Raider football is my “hobby”, I guess. A friend introduced me to this site a couple of years ago. I just read it for the longest time. Now I like to get on here, when I get a chance, and talk football with fellow Raider fans.
February 21st, 2010 at 4:37 pm
I’d like to shoot richochet in the stomach with a BB gun.
What a douchebag.
Richochet = Jerry. You know it’s true.
February 21st, 2010 at 4:38 pm
10 players the Raiders might draft
Published Sunday, Feb. 21, 2010
• 1. Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers. It’s not a particularly strong year for offensive tackles, but it’s a desperate Oakland need, and Davis might fill it.
• 2. Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama. A physical tackling machine who excels against the run, McClain seems a natural successor to fallen-out-of-favor middle linebacker Kirk Morrison.
• 3. Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech. Having racked up 12.5 sacks last season, he is considered equally good at stopping the run as rushing the passer.
• 4. Mike Iupati, G, Idaho. An outstanding run blocker who needs work on pass protection, he already has an “in” with coach Tom Cable, a fellow Vandal.
• 5. Dexter McCluster, RB, Mississippi. He’s small but fast, and we know Al Davis’ infatuation with speed. Plus, McCluster could address Oakland’s woeful return games.
• 6. Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida. A December driving-under-the-influence arrest brings unwanted baggage with his blend of size (6-feet-6, 278 pounds), speed (4.78-second 40-yard dash) and sacks (nine).
• 7. Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma. Somewhat short for a tackle at 6-5, he’s nonetheless seen as one of the more athletic offensive linemen out there.
• 8. Taylor Mays, S, USC. Davis loves USC guys, no matter that Mays’ stock has dropped. He’s a big hitter, although his tackling is suspect.
• 9. Dan LeFevour, QB, Central Michigan. Not the classic drop-back passer Davis prefers, but extremely accurate and good insurance for the future. Paging JaMarcus Russell.
• 10. Darrell Green, CB, Hall of Fame. Yes, we know he’s retired, but did you see he ran a 4.43 40 on his 50th birthday? Did we mention Davis loves speed?
– Paul Gutierrez
This guy cracked me up with Darrell Green a 50 year old man AL Davis would love to have him run 4.43 as a Raider lol.
February 21st, 2010 at 4:43 pm
I vote for McClain.
February 21st, 2010 at 4:47 pm
# Sweep The Leg. Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 4:37 pm
I’d like to shoot richochet in the stomach with a BB gun.
What a douchebag.
Richochet = Jerry. You know it’s true.
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Only problem is you’re too young to handle a BB gun.
And..as we both know, you’re more likely to shoot yourself in the foot, which is not to be confused with SeyMoronOakGlenn crapping on his own foot.
Let’s see…the latest assumption has run the gauntlet from:
“he’s Jerry”
“no, he’s Kawakami”
“No, he’s Ann Killion”
“oh no, I know for a fact he’s Skip Bayless”
and now full cycle back to “He’s Jerry”
What? No Carl Steward?
February 21st, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Thanks, Lonetree.
February 21st, 2010 at 4:57 pm
ricochet is jerry
February 21st, 2010 at 6:04 pm
You are JERRY!!!!!!!
Doesn’t mean I hate you or even think you are not hillarious.
Nighty night pumpkin.
Mmmmkk?
You’re precious.
February 21st, 2010 at 6:18 pm
I WILL SWEEP YOUR FREAKIN LEG!!!!!
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT SENSAE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DANIEL LARUSSO IS GONNA FIGHT????????
DANIEL LARUSSO IS GONNA FIGHT!!!!!!!!
February 21st, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Last night I posted that Bil Walsh, Dick Vermeil and Sam Wyche were at Stanford under John Ralston and they were all there at the same time and coached the offense with Plunkett at QB.
Two dingalings had the audacity to question the Priest anybody else willing to question B4 I prove both those dingalings are idiot know nothings.
February 21st, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Post#388 great post between two very knowledgable posters. This blog definitely has some bright lights in here but just not enough to offset all the damn fools. But who’s keeping count?
February 21st, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Paul Gutierrez, obviously is not a draftnik or else he wouldn’t have made a statement like his first bullet point on Anthony Davis that this isn’t a strong year for OT’s. This is a banner year for OT’s and any scout or GM worth a fart would concur. From Okung, to Davis to Bulaga to even to Ducasse there might be as many as 6 OT’s in the 1st rnd.
Dumb statement Paul! do some research next time.
February 21st, 2010 at 8:27 pm
priest u never have anything positive 2 say bout my posts
February 21st, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Sorry bro. I’ll start reading them more.
February 21st, 2010 at 8:46 pm
wassup gents!
February 21st, 2010 at 8:53 pm
buckeyeraider Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 1:51 pm
I agree Seymuor. But if you try to give any reason’s for Russell’s struggles in here other than the preferred ones that he is fat, lazy and stupid, then you get accused of coddling him, making excuses, and towing the company line. I split the blame evenly for last season. 50 % on Jamarcus for his effort, or lack thereof. Being out of shape and unprepared is just unprofessional. The other half goes to situations beyond his control. Like the injuries to Chaz, gallery, and DMac. His having to rely on two raw rookie wideouts who let him down by running poor routes and dropping passes. To Cable’s decision to alter the offense from the previous year, and feature deeper routes. There is enough blame for last years offensive ineptitude to go around.
With that, I’m out. Enjoy your Sunday’s gentleman.
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Priest, Jhill and Seymour,
This is why we can’t give up. Some people are finally starting to get it. Great job. Guys like Vegas will come around soon enough.
February 21st, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Priest just loves to act like he is some all knowing football God when in fact he is a drunken fool who doesnt realize he is the joke of not only this blog but local sports radio as well.
I have on numerous occasions asked the man a simple question and the fool refuses to answer for the simple reason that he has no answer. Dont buy the hype, just because he says its so, dont mean it is.
I will post the question for him again just in case he has grown a pair….. What makes Jamarcus Russell so much better than Mark Sanchez??
February 21st, 2010 at 9:09 pm
RaiderRon, you’re such a funny guy, hopeless even. I’ve answered that question several times. It’s just beyond your comprehension. Simple as that.
RaiderDebo,
I like talking to people that have a clue. It’s not about giving up it’s about knowing to whom you should spend time and intelligence with. Like for instance RaiderRon, why bother? ya’ know?
February 21st, 2010 at 9:12 pm
See what I am talking about Debo, wont even answer a simple question. If a man were as smart as he claims to be he would just go ahead and answer. Insteas all we get from Priest is more blathering on how he is so smart and everyone else is soooo dumb. Lets see how he doesnt answer this time………
What makes Jamarcus Russell so much better than Mark Sanchez?
February 21st, 2010 at 9:14 pm
Or how about this question Priest…
How many NFL GMs would take Russell over Sanchez given the option at this very moment?
February 21st, 2010 at 9:15 pm
I’ve answered you several times you just don’t get it. Now stop bothering me…………go away. What makes you think this time you’ll understand? how will this time be different?
February 21st, 2010 at 9:15 pm
I hear ya Priest. Since I think most people on the street, who let the talking heads lead them around by the nos,e just assume that Sanchez is worlds ahead of JR, I’d like to turn the question around on RaderRon and ask him why he thinks Sanchez is better.
February 21st, 2010 at 9:16 pm
Read post #388 that’s my answer, same line of thought.
February 21st, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Hey Debo, I never said one way or the other. Your hero Priest has been screaming at the top of his booze filled lungs hoe horrible Sanchez is and how great Russell is. I simply wanted to know why he thought that. Period. Its that simple and the dude flat refuses.
February 21st, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Say Wack_o. I ate some rancid Indian food last night and blew sh** all over your face. And you come back on Sweep the Leg? Man up. POS.
February 21st, 2010 at 9:25 pm
Listen dumbell I’ve answered you, you ignorant wretch.
February 21st, 2010 at 9:28 pm
Oh Christ!! “Bronco” Ron is here? Last time I was faced off against “Bronco” Ron, he went nuts and melted down like Chernobyl. What’s up Ron? how bout dem Broncos?
February 21st, 2010 at 9:30 pm
RaiderRon,
You’re talking to wrong guy if you’re looking for someone to speak out against Priest. I read this blog for a long time before I decided to post. Priest stood out to me as a guy who backs up all his points with sound FOOTBALL reasoning. He doesn’t bother speculating about off-field thigs like work ethic, desire, leadership or whether certain player have lost the locker room because he admittedly knows nothing about that. None of us do! He sticks to football because that’s something we can all see and discuss with some degree of knowlege. A lot of people on this blog could stand to take a page out of his book.
February 21st, 2010 at 9:34 pm
Debo,
Sound reasoning from Priest? Thats freakn hillarious man. If you read this blog for a long time then you would know how wrong he gets proved to be CONSTANTLY. Seriously, if he was such a scholar why wont he type an answer to a simple question? He has never once answered when asked. If he did, I wasnt on the blog and therefore didnt see it. I am here now, and am ready for the answer.
February 21st, 2010 at 9:34 pm
Where’d “Bronco” Ron go? Probably to the toilet to throw up.
February 21st, 2010 at 9:35 pm
“Bronco” Ron, we’re not talking about Priest. We’re talking about you. What will make the Raiders better next year?
February 21st, 2010 at 9:40 pm
Where’d “Bronco” ron go? Someone check the loo.
February 21st, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Thanks for the kind words Debo. It is true that I try to stick to what I know and feel confident about. I’m wrong many times on my opinions but that’s just what they are opinions not facts. Some people like to capitolize on that and say I lied.
When I state a fact I stand behind it. Like the fact that Walsh, Vermeil and Wyche were at Stanford at the same time coaching under Ralston when Jim Plunkett was QB it’s in the record books fr anyone to look up. It was quite possibly the greatest college staff ever assembled. Walsh did similar things at the 49ers when he was there with Mike White and Sam Wyche who convinced him to draft Joe Montana. Wyche was very instrumental in helping to biuld that team that would later beat him in the SB. Look it up!!
February 21st, 2010 at 9:43 pm
What will make the Raiders better next year? Well Glenn how about at least 1 decent OT and G, a real number 1 WR, an every down RB, a competent HC and last but not least a real NFL caliber QB. That would be a good start.
February 21st, 2010 at 9:45 pm
And heres Priest NOT answering a simple question but instead going on a tangent about some random factoid that wasnt even brought up but that he happens to know and thinks is really cool.
February 21st, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Well that’s your damn fault right Ron? I’ve answered you twice. It wont happen again go back and read the previous answers there in the archive if you know how to access it.
February 21st, 2010 at 9:50 pm
Hey “Bronco” Ron, let me ask you a question. Who is the 6′2″ 220 4.25 forty receiver in this draft? Since there was only one of the those in the last draft, and we grabbed him at #8?
February 21st, 2010 at 9:52 pm
Seymour,
Did I say draft a WR? Hayward Bey sure looks to be on the way to stardom!
Bill Walsh was not at Stanford while Plunkett was playing.
February 21st, 2010 at 9:56 pm
Now he’s calling me a liar, when he probably doesn’t even know who played for Stanford when Jim was there.
Name some players on that team Ron. Where was Walsh when Jim was at Stanford then? who was Jim’s QB coach?
February 21st, 2010 at 9:57 pm
Where did walsh coach B4 the 49ers? what QB did he bring there?
February 21st, 2010 at 9:57 pm
RaiderRon Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 9:52 pm
Seymour,
Did I say draft a WR? Hayward Bey sure looks to be on the way to stardom!
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WTF are you talking
February 21st, 2010 at 9:59 pm
about? I asked you a very simple qusetion. And since you cannot answer it, i will answer it for you. There was only ONE 6′2″ 220 receiver who could run a 4.24 forty in this draft
February 21st, 2010 at 10:00 pm
Plunkett played 68-70 at Stanford.
Walsh started with the Bengals in 68.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:01 pm
Seymour he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, he just talks.
Seymour I’m a little light on getting the info on Stanford can you help meso that can shut these fools up.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:01 pm
Dez Bryant?? Whats your point?
February 21st, 2010 at 10:01 pm
AND the 2010 draft. And the Raiders grabbed him. Is he a project? Well, uh, Duh. Yes he is. But there is an old expression in the NFL, ” You can’t teach speed”
February 21st, 2010 at 10:03 pm
In this draft, there are a BUNCH of good Olineman, AND, good Dlinemen. Which is EXACTLY, WHAT WE NEED. Go Al go!
February 21st, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Sam Wyche was PLAYING in the NFL in 1968. LOL!!!!1
February 21st, 2010 at 10:05 pm
Heres where Priest mysteriously disappears…….
February 21st, 2010 at 10:08 pm
# priesttj Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Last night I posted that Bil Walsh, Dick Vermeil and Sam Wyche were at Stanford under John Ralston and they were all there at the same time and coached the offense with Plunkett at QB.
Two dingalings had the audacity to question the Priest anybody else willing to question B4 I prove both those dingalings are idiot know nothings.
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THERE IS A REASON YOU BACK DOWN FROM ME, LIKE A SLAPPED ON LITTLE GIRL, old man…because everytime you attempt to engage, I torch you.
Witness…DUMBASS.
Walsh was at Stanford from 63 to 65….PLUNKETT WASN’T AT STANFORD THEN, YOU FOOL. Plunkett’s first year was 1968…DUMBASS.
Vermeil and Ralston were on that roster…NOT WALSH OR WYCHE..DUMBASS.
In 1969? ONLY RALSTON…no Vermeil..no Walsh…NO WYCHE…DUMBASS.
In 1970? ONLY RALSTON…no Vermeil..no Walsh…NO WYCHE…DUMBASS.
In other words, I just torched your sorry inept ass AGAIN..
I told you..don’t mess with the big boys, OLD MAN..because you always lose.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:10 pm
# priesttj Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 10:01 pm
Seymour he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, he just talks.
Seymour I’m a little light on getting the info on Stanford can you help meso that can shut these fools up.
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LMFAO…you freaking MORON…you’re asking Oakglenn to help you?
Here..dumbass… http://www.fanbase.com/Stanford-Cardinal-Football-1967/roster#
Now what? lol….YEAH… WE KNOW..YOU’RE IN HIDING…
Now apologize for being an idiot.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Rico,
Dont think ol Priest will be around here anymore tonight.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:11 pm
OMG,rack-of-crap, MIRACULOUSLY, appears, because he gets called on the phone from the other trolls!!! It’s a miracle!!!!!! hey “Bronco” Ron, don’t melt down while I take wack-O to the wood shed YET AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!
February 21st, 2010 at 10:12 pm
Yooo hoooo Priest!! Where are you?? Come out come out wherever you are!!!
February 21st, 2010 at 10:13 pm
Oakglenn,
Umm….No offense but your posts dont really make any sense so you might want to put down the crack pipe. Ok slant eye??
February 21st, 2010 at 10:14 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Sam Wyche was PLAYING in the NFL in 1968. LOL!!!!1
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And in 1968, Plunkett’s first year at Stanford, Walsh was an asst. coach with the Bengals.
Priest is almost as big a moron as SeyMoron-Oakglenn
February 21st, 2010 at 10:14 pm
you know, it’s 10:15 at night. I would be having sex with my wife for the first time of the evening, but here comes wack-O. Couldn’t get it up wack-o?
February 21st, 2010 at 10:14 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Rico,
Dont think ol Priest will be around here anymore tonight.
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Lol..that’s pretty much a lock, isn’t it?
February 21st, 2010 at 10:15 pm
It’s 10:15. Couldn’t get it up, could you wack-o?
February 21st, 2010 at 10:16 pm
RaiderRon Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 10:13 pm
Oakglenn,
Umm….No offense but your posts dont really make any sense so you might want to put down the crack pipe.
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HAhahahahahahahahahahahaha! Uh, no. You just don’t have the mental capacity to UNDERSTAND THEM! But Good for you, at least you admit it!
February 21st, 2010 at 10:17 pm
I’m right here son, I was researching the staff in ‘70 ‘71 you can barely read it.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:17 pm
I bet your lil gook wife is really missing that lil fella running around in her ala a hot dog in a hallway.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Well, we have the two trolls here. One can’t get it up, the other doesn’t understand it. Anything else? I didn’t think so. Good Night to all of you!
February 21st, 2010 at 10:19 pm
Priest,
How did Sam Wyche coach Stanford while PLAYING in the NFL and Furman U??
How did Walsh coach Plunkett while coaching in Cinci? He pull double cross country duty??
February 21st, 2010 at 10:19 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 10:11 pm
OMG,rack-of-crap, MIRACULOUSLY, appears, because he gets called on the phone from the other trolls!!! It’s a miracle!!!!!! hey “Bronco” Ron, don’t melt down while I take wack-O to the wood shed YET AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!
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What’s the matter, little boy?
Nothing to say to help out TJ? lol…of course not…
See..I called out priest last night for having his head up his ass…regarding Walsh and Wyche..as did Steve.
Now? LOL…TJ talks the talk…then…LIKE YOU, BAILS LIKE A LITTLE BEYOTCH..each and every time.
Just not sure who’s easier…TJ because he’s an old uneducated ghetto ebonics challenged fool…or you, being a oft-slapped on cross posting, disappearing and signing in under a new name, hoping the welts will disappear, fool that you be.
I think it’s a tossup..worm.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:19 pm
Bye bye Teryaki King!!
February 21st, 2010 at 10:20 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 10:17 pm
I bet your lil gook wife is really missing that lil fella running around in her ala a hot dog in a hallway.
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Hey WACK-O translate this garbage into 2lst century English would ya? Yur Boy is kinda weak.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:20 pm
Whats that Priest? Cat got your tongue????LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 21st, 2010 at 10:20 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Well, we have the two trolls here. One can’t get it up, the other doesn’t understand it. Anything else? I didn’t think so. Good Night to all of you!
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LMFAO….AS I CALLED IT…tuck your tail, wimp..like you do EVERYTIME…you coward.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:22 pm
I know all these guy’s including Rod Rust were there at the same time maybe i was wrong about Jim being there yet but all of the coaches coached under Ralston at the same time.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:23 pm
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February 21st, 2010 at 10:23 pm
You tryin sto stick your lil gook wife is kind of like stickin a hot dog down a hall way.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:24 pm
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February 21st, 2010 at 10:24 pm
# Richochet Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 10:20 pm
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LMFAO….AS I CALLED IT…tuck your tail, wimp..like you do EVERYTIME…you coward.
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# RaiderRon Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 10:17 pm
I bet your lil gook wife is really missing that lil fella running around in her ala a hot dog in a hallway.
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HAHahAHhahHahaha. NO. I think he was directing this at YOUR whore wife. Sorry I got in ther way.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:24 pm
Sorry TJ, old man…you’re a fool.
No Walsh or Wyche…MORON.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:25 pm
Run along and pop another Colt 45, we are done with you. And again I must say…. Well done!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 21st, 2010 at 10:26 pm
And As I said before, if someone has to throw down the ignorant racists blasts, I have to go. Sorry, but I am bette than that. And I am directing that to “Bronco” Ron and wack-o. I am just simply better than you.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:26 pm
# priesttj Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 10:22 pm
I know all these guy’s including Rod Rust were there at the same time maybe i was wrong about Jim being there yet but all of the coaches coached under Ralston at the same time.
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Liar.
I just posted you info…TOLD YOU WHO WAS THERE, AND WHAT YEAR…WHAT PART OF THAT CONFUSED YOU?
No Wyche..AT ALL..and Plunkett NEVER SAW WALSH.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:26 pm
Only PROVEN gook on the blog is you Glenn. Cant be sure your wife is. You stink buggers usually stick together though so I just figured…..
February 21st, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Any Other questions? I didn’t think so.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:27 pm
About ten years later in the early 80’s we used t reminisce about all those coaches that came under Ralston who is the most underrated coach I can think of. Unfortunately I rely on memory a little too much and it’s been a while.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:27 pm
You’re a puzzy, Oakglenn..save the “racist crap”..considering I said nothing..except that you’re a coward..and my BEYOTCH..
February 21st, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Oakglenn,
Go have another Kirin and STFU!!!
February 21st, 2010 at 10:28 pm
Priest,
I said bye bye. Run along.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:30 pm
that’s who i was confusing Vermail with was Mike White. Who later coached at Cal. My Bad! It’s been too long.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:30 pm
RaiderRon Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 10:26 pm
Only PROVEN gook on the blog is you Glenn.
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The only Proven gook on the blog is you Glenn. You know, that is SO offensive, put up your fists. I will meet you over at Fruitvale and macArthur in 20 minutes. I will be there. Don’t post, see you there and be prepared to get your ass kicked HARD
February 21st, 2010 at 10:31 pm
What would you use to blinfold Oakglenn???
Dental floss.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:31 pm
# priesttj Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Last night I posted that Bil Walsh, Dick Vermeil and Sam Wyche were at Stanford under John Ralston and they were all there at the same time and coached the offense with Plunkett at QB.
Two dingalings had the audacity to question the Priest anybody else willing to question B4 I prove both those dingalings are idiot know nothings.
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So much for you proving ANYONE WRONG..lol…
Now? After mouthing off? All you have is “uh…DUH…I’s just trys to member, and I guess my’s old brains jus aint working all dat good”??
Yeah, lol…NO KIDDING.
Look how stupid you look with the “dare to question” crap..when in fact you missed it all by a mile…moron.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Who is Priest talking to???
February 21st, 2010 at 10:33 pm
# priesttj Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 10:30 pm
that’s who i was confusing Vermail with was Mike White. Who later coached at Cal. My Bad! It’s been too long.
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Vermeil WAS THERE…lol..for one year.
So..uh…WHO DID YOU CONFUSE WALSH WITH?
How about WYCHE?? HE WAS NEVER THERE…
February 21st, 2010 at 10:34 pm
You guy’s have to rely on books I don’t I go by memory which is I must admit getting a little foggy. I just remember great staffs and great teams that I used to go see that beat the two most dominant teams in collegiate sports of that time in back to back Rose Bowls in Michigan and Ohio St.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Hey cun ts. Be there.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Getting a lil foggy? Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
February 21st, 2010 at 10:35 pm
RaiderRon Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 10:26 pm
Only PROVEN gook on the blog is you Glenn. Cant be sure your wife is. You stink buggers usually stick together though so I just figured….===
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Oakglenn/Seymour doesn’t have a wife.
While back the idiot came on, on a Friday night, and said “Look..Richo is here..what? NO DATE?? Haha..you don’t have a date”.
I replied: “Uh..dumbass? I’m married. I pretty much have a date 24/7..but hey…I SEE YOU’RE ON HERE, ON A FRIDAY NIGHT..WHAT? nO DATE?
His reply??
Oakglenn: “oh, uh…well..uh..yeah..I have a date..she’s really hot. I pushed her out of bed to come post to you”
Swear TO GOD THAT WAS HIS REPLY, lol…the idiot.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:38 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 10:30 pm
RaiderRon Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 10:26 pm
Only PROVEN gook on the blog is you Glenn.
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The only Proven gook on the blog is you Glenn. You know, that is SO offensive, put up your fists. I will meet you over at Fruitvale and macArthur in 20 minutes. I will be there. Don’t post, see you there and be prepared to get your ass kicked HARD
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Interesting…THE EXACT SAME GHETTO SLUMS that Oakglenn lives near….
Wow..is that a coincidence..or what???
Hey??? Oakdork..you’re sidewalk still stink of urine, like before? How do you live like that?
February 21st, 2010 at 10:39 pm
I’ll admit I was wrong on those staffs no problem I haven’t looked that stuff up or discussed it in almost 30 years. My adding Sam Wyche may have been due to him being on Walsh’s staff at the 49ers with Mike White. Those coaches sometimes remind of each other. Each one great in their own right.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:41 pm
# priesttj Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 10:34 pm
You guy’s have to rely on books I don’t I go by memory which is I must admit getting a little foggy. I just remember great staffs and great teams that I used to go see that beat the two most dominant teams in collegiate sports of that time in back to back Rose Bowls in Michigan and Ohio St.
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Ignorant clown.
You asked Oakdork to help you FIND THE INFO that you were so sure you were going to school me with.
Thanks for proving you’re foggy as hell…no wonder you get called out..where you state ‘YOU JUST DON’T KNOW. I DO.”..where in fact, you’re pretty confused, lol…aren’t you?
Weak diversion attempt at a reply, BTW.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:43 pm
Look at Oakglen…tucking tail…right now, reading, squirming..waiting…then he’ll post ‘I was there…i was THE SHORT FAT LITTLE GUY..THAT EVERYONE WAS MAKING FUN OF..WHO KEPT GETTING HIT ON THE BACK OF THE HEAD, while everyone laughed…where were you guys?”
We were the one hitting you on the head, little man, lol…you couldn’t figure it out?
February 21st, 2010 at 10:50 pm
I’m scared to death that we might draft jason piere paul.( doesnt seem like he has any passion or love for the game as soon as he gets paid, its over) Please dont take this kid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p8dO-6nlcU
February 21st, 2010 at 10:51 pm
priesttj Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Thanks for the kind words Debo. It is true that I try to stick to what I know and feel confident about. I’m wrong many times on my opinions but that’s just what they are opinions not facts. Some people like to capitolize on that and say I lied.
When I state a fact I stand behind it. Like the fact that Walsh, Vermeil and Wyche were at Stanford at the same time coaching under Ralston when Jim Plunkett was QB it’s in the record books fr anyone to look up. It was quite possibly the greatest college staff ever assembled.
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Classic.
“quite possibly the greatest college staff ever assembled”
“it’s in the record books..go look it up”
“like the fact Walsh, Vermeil, and Wyche were at Stanford at the same time coaching under Ralston when Plunkett was qb”
Only missed it by a country mile…that’s all.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:59 pm
Sharkcatcher, why wuld you not draft this kid? His talent is limitless and he hasn’t even learned the game yet. You may not draft him high but to say don’t draft at all desn’t make sense. This kid is a natural talent with tremendous potential. If we can get at the same spot we drafted Trevor Scott or there abouts you do it…………..period
February 21st, 2010 at 11:34 pm
Richochet Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 10:43 pm
Look at Oakglen…tucking tail…
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I told you where I was going to be and when. You didn’t show. You are a gutless C U N T. Enough said.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:03 am
Ugh, jesus. The collective patting on the back over this hockey victory. And of course if Canada would have won, everyone would be saying that it’s because Obama has weakened America. Not hesitating to take down Somali pirates, taking the war on terror back to Bin Ladin, beating Canada in hockey. Despite these rough economic times (which started on Bush’s watch, btw) America’s still standing pretty tall on President Obama’s watch, despite the hysteria and paranoia from the right wingers, isn’t she?
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:55 am
Hey fellas,
The Raiders are the last team since the 2000 Bengals to start two rookie wide receivers. That team went 4-12. Poor Akili Smith.
QB Akili Smith 25 1 11 118 for 267, 1,253 yards, 3 td, 6 int, & 41 rushes for 232 yards and 0 td Cincinnati Bengals / 1st / 3rd pick / 1999
QB Scott Mitchell 32 9 5 89 for 187, 966 yards, 3 td, 8 int, & 10 rushes for 61 yards and 1 td Miami Dolphins / 4th / 93rd pick / 1990
RB Corey Dillon* 26 3 16 315 rushes for 1,435 yards, 7 td, & 18 catches for 158 yards and 0 td Cincinnati Bengals / 2nd / 43rd pick / 1997
FB Clif Groce 28 5 6 3 rushes for 4 yards, 0 td, & 11 catches for 45 yards and 0 td
WR Peter Warrick 23 Rook 16 51 catches for 592 yards, 4 td, & 16 rushes for 148 yards and 2 td Cincinnati Bengals / 1st / 4th pick / 2000
WR Craig Yeast 24 1 7 24 catches for 301 yards, 0 td, & 1 rush for 15 yards and 0 td Cincinnati Bengals / 4th / 98th pick / 1999
WR Ron Dugans 23 Rook 5 14 catches for 125 yards, 1 td Cincinnati Bengals / 3rd / 66th pick / 2000
February 22nd, 2010 at 3:34 am
February 22nd, 2010 at 3:35 am
Man….it sucks 2B priesttj lol!
February 22nd, 2010 at 3:52 am
Good morning, 4eva. We haven’t been introduced yet, but I’ve read lots of your posts before I registered last week. Any thoughts on which RFAs for whom we should make offer sheets? (best I could come up with to start discussion at 6:51am)
February 22nd, 2010 at 4:02 am
Obviously, on the UNrestricted Free Agent front, we should at least take a shot at Wilfork (even though he was a damned Patriot; I’ll let that slide) and we should do everything within the organization’s power to get Dansby.
I would prefer to keep Morrison and move him to SSLB… he’s a good linebacker, just not good enough to play MLB in a 4-3 with weak DTs. If we get Wilfork, then MAYBE Morrison would show improvement against the run, but I’d prefer him on the strong side with Trevor Scott on the weak side and retain Howard to plug in when others need rest (switch Morrison to MLB and put Howard at SSLB when Dansby needs a breather).
I know that many of you think Scott can only play LB in obvious passing situations, but I disagree. The guy is a gamer and hasn’t been at the new position very long. Given a camp and preseason to hone his new craft, I think he’ll become a linebacker that we can all be proud of in any situation, on any down. Thoughts from anyone?
February 22nd, 2010 at 4:11 am
Morning Steve!
Carlos Dansby would be a great addition….
Keith Smart might have made the winning shot against Syracuse but….Steve Alfords 3 pointer at the end of the 1st half won that game,imo
February 22nd, 2010 at 4:23 am
Well, MY name actually IS Steve Alford… but I was named after him: He’s my fifth cousin. I was born in 1980 just when he started High School.
In case you’re wondering, I’m not name-dropping when I tell that story, it’s just that I always use my real name for online id’s (I hate the anonymity of the intarwebs… it makes it lose some of the personal touch for me), so I felt the need to eliminate any confusion over the name. I almost picked a fake handle for use here so no one would think I wanted to discuss basketball on a Raiders blog. Make no mistake, I bleed Silver and Black.
February 22nd, 2010 at 4:36 am
I was born in Kentucky, raised in Virginia, and lived all over the country after my time in the Army was up. Most recently, I lived for two years in Pacifica, CA… less than half an hour away from our beloved team… until August, when the recession made it too difficult to afford the mortgage while trying to run my business building custom computers.
The unfortunate economic downturn finally caught up with me enough that I was left with few better alternatives than moving back to the rural area of VA in which I was raised. However, regardless of geography, I still wear the colors nearly every day… even through the offseason (I’m now the manager of a tattoo shop, so I can wear whatever I please).
February 22nd, 2010 at 4:47 am
Yep this this greed induced faltering economy is getting the best of most of us.Its good you have a job,there is no work here in fla.Wont be anytime soon from what I’ve read,soo the its “as the noose tightens” around here.As I’ve stated B4,this is my roomaes computer and she has moved closer to her work.Soo today is prolly my last post 4awhile….But I will still check in from time to time and IF work ever picks back up,my 1st purchase must be a computer because I love this place!
February 22nd, 2010 at 4:57 am
Well, I wish you the best of luck in getting back on your feet quickly and finding a way to stay a part of this madness here with us.
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:29 am
Thankx Steve…..These guys in here havent seen the last of me! and they know it
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:36 am
Well, I don’t grind axes or hold grudges online. I try to keep it on topic and about the football, not about childish insults. I will, however, call out anyone I catch talking out of their ass, making stuff up, spewing retarded gibberish, or just straight up lying. Ask Priest, hehe.
I had to read all the posts that were made after I left, but thanks to Mr. O’Shea’s persistence, Priest finally had to admit that he was wrong. Unfortunately, he did it about as insincerely as possibly with much backpedaling and excuse-making as he could muster… but I guess some people need to take baby-steps toward credibility and truthfulness.
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:43 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
4eva, Steve…(which by the way…welcome to the AM Crew)…what’s happening thins morning?
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:45 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,4EVA, STEVEALFORD21,
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:46 am
Awww…4eva…are you serious? You know the AM crew will miss you on here. but I know you WILL be back!
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:46 am
What’s up Dirt Lot? Good Morning to ya!!!
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:51 am
Not much… just reading some articles, playing 1/0 chess at yahoo, and shootin the breeze here. Thanks for the welcome. I might be more of a roving poster for now, though… my login times are kind of erratic, so I’ll probably see lots of action working part-time for the AM and PM Crews this week. I only have a few more days til my girl gets back from N.C., so I’ll probably be posting more between 2pm and 10pm Eastern time after this week (I’ll post while I’m at the shop, lol).
So, would you please care to refer to my questions in posts 510 and 511 and give us your thoughs?
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:52 am
HWNRDR,WHATS GOIN ON 4EVA ?
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:55 am
Howdy Dirt. Nice to meet you and Hwnrdr.
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:58 am
I agree with you on taking a shot at Wilfork. Hey, I did not like Seymour either because he was a Patriot and on that Tuck Rule team in 2001/2002. Well, with good DT plays, Morrison would be better, but not too sure if I’m convinced that he can be a solid MLB. In all cases…move him outside.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:06 am
Same ol same ol
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:13 am
I really wish you hadn’t brought up the Tuck game, lol. I actually just told my gf about it on the phone at 2am today. I was inconceivably lucky enough to find a drop-dead gorgeous girl who is also a Raiders fan… but she’s only 19, so she wasn’t aware of that ref-rape job we took in the snow or of the B.S. Ravens loss in the 2001 AFC Championship game after cheap-shot Syragusa did what that fat bastard does best.
If not for her being in N.C. for the week, I’d have pulled out some videos for her to watch (as painful as it will be to re-live it all when I DO show her). Don’t worry, I’ll let her know that the Tuck Rule was never invoked before that game and hasn’t been since… and that Brady turned to Woodson and said that he didn’t know why they were reviewing it… that he had indeed fumbled. *sigh* Gotta love ref decisions against our team…
Editorial Note: I’m 29, so yes… I AM a cradle-robber.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:15 am
Good morning AM crew!
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:17 am
Sorry to hear that 4eva….
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:17 am
Morning Neilb!!!
Well chores are calling bbl
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:18 am
Its not a death sentence but thankx Neilb and everyone!
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:20 am
Steve,
Good morning to you. Just a quick FYI since you are new here:
-The AM crew talks a majority football, and what is discussed that is non-football related, is at least done so with some intelligence.
-The PM crew rarely talks football, and even rarer is the time they speak with much intelligence.
And, BTW, I like Tony Brown (DT) as a good FA pickup. I think he is restricted, and an underappreciated (so somewhat cheap) veteran run-stuffer.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:22 am
As they say, “If you can’t find a good woman, raise one.”
Until I get married or die, I’ll only go for the 18-22 year olds. The rest generally have too much baggage and too many miles on them (in this day and age, it’s impossible to find a 23 year old who hasn’t been around the block enough times to draw you a map blindfolded). Hell, finding a beautiful woman over 22 who doesn’t have at least one kid yet is rarer than a Raiders game that has a JaMarcus touchdown pass and no false starts from Cornell Green.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:24 am
You’ll only go for 18-22 yr olds??!!
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:24 am
Hey Steve…its all good. 19 is an adult…
Yeah, that game where Siragusa belly flopped on Gannon…way after the call!
A couple years later, he was standing in front of the Black Hole commentating and everyone was throwing crap at him. One of the announcers told him that he was brave and asked him if he thought that the fans forgot about what HE DID to their quarterback!!! Haha…he couldn’t answer…
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:29 am
Hwnrdr…..
I remember that.Siragusa said everyone was waving at him but with just one finger!
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:31 am
I prefer the cougar route.
You don’t have to teach them anything, you don’t have to support them financially and you don’t have to hang out with her dumb 19 year old friends!!
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:33 am
vegas raider Says:
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:31 am
I prefer the cougar route.
You don’t have to teach them anything, you don’t have to support them financially and you don’t have to hang out with her dumb 19 year old friends!!
ESPECIALLY IF THERE ARE NO STRINGS ATTACHED!!!
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:33 am
Thanks Vegas. As long as we’re in the RFA waters: what do you think about Jahri Evans and Tony Hargrove from the Saints? I know that the Saints will probably match any offers that come up, but if there’s a chance of getting either of them, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to pursue it. In the case of Evans, it would be damned nice if we had another Guard on our roster… at least one who is SUPPOSED TO BE PLAYING GUARD. I love the turnaround we’ve gotten from Gallery, but we are so thin there that even if he doesn’t get injured once this season, it’s still arguably our weakest position (particularly RG). To have Evans and Gallery starting opposite each other would be huge for our beloved Raiders. As for Hargrove, anything is an improvement over our current DT situation.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:37 am
Al loves his Super Bowl champs.
I like Evans, or should I say, I like just about any starting guard in the league to come join the Raiders.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:42 am
We already tried to get Wilfork. Ended up with Seymour.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:42 am
Well, I can only hope that getting Evans wouldn’t be a repeat of the Gibril Wilson disaster (taking a player with a ring from the previous season and expecting greatness). Despite any risks, I saw him start every game and saw Brees with a nice pocket all season. Granted, Brees gets the ball out quicker than JaMarcus can locate his first read, but any potential upgrade in protection would be welcome and worth taking any inherent chances.
Hopefully Gradkowski, Losman, or someone not even in our discussions yet will step up and take the starting job from #2 so he can take another year to learn what he’s doing. At least we know that Gradkowski can find get the ball out quickly and Losman should get a chance to show us something this season.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:44 am
Who signed Langston Walker last year, Al or Cable?
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:49 am
Jhill….
I think he was just hanging around and someone asked if he wanted to play.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:52 am
To clarify my position on #2: I screamed bloody murder with a righteous fury when we drafted him. I’m from the south and had seen many of his games (I’m an SEC man… go WILDCATS!) and knew that his ONLY good game in college was that Sugar Bowl. Nevertheless, I held out hope that he could learn how to play QB instead of just relying on natural talent and the fact that he was always more gifted than his peers. Sadly, he never learned that you have to WORK to be good in the NFL and that your peers on this level are just as good as you are; there’s no falling back on being bigger and stronger here.
I hated his holdout. I hated his first start (hurray for interceptions!). I hated his weight. I hated that he never appeared to CARE what happened… even if his demeanor doesn’t reflect his true feelings, it still affects his teammates. I don’t hate JaMarcus, but I hate that he was handed the reigns and did NOTHING… and will be handed them again unless there is an open and fair competition in camp. I don’t want to cut him, though. I say to give him one more year with a clipboard in his hands and see if he can learn the playbook, learn to read the WHOLE field, learn to hold the ball above his waist when he drops back, learn not to throw the ball above and behind receivers/backs going across the middle (he’ll get someone’s career ended one day doing that… I’m amazed he hasn’t yet… Zach really needs to kick #2’s ass), and get at least a basic handle on a few dozen other things.
This has to be his last chance, however. I’m not against JaMarcus; I want him to succeed… but I think it’s time that the free ride should come to an end. I don’t hate him, but I hate all that he’s done. He needs to step up… or step off.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:00 am
Way to come out swingin Steve.
The bottom line with Russell is he’s only going to be as good as the players around him. Once you get past the fact that he is not going to take a trash offense and make it produce.
Everyone acknowledges that we had arguably the worst Oline in the NFL.
Same with the play caller.
Same with the 2 rookies WRs.
All I know is Russell can complete passes to Miller, Chaz, JLH, and the RBs with no problem. Get a decent LT so Russell can stop getting hit from behind, and get a decent RT who will stop jumping offsides and turning 1st dns into 3rd and 12s.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:01 am
And yes, I know that he’s working with a trainer right now and that’s a great first step IF he’s actually dedicated and making progress. However, I don’t think he can learn all that he needs to learn in a single offseason. There are just too many football needs for him to address that he can’t cover with a personal trainer. He needs to get back to basics and learn the mechanics of the position as well as the progressions and reads. That alone will take up enough time that he will show up for camp without having had time to learn the playbook… for a fourth straight year. At least if he shows up in shape and more fundamentally sound, he’ll have a good excuse for ignorance of the plays.
Honestly, I would love for him to come in totally ready, win the job in camp, and miraculously lead the team to the playoffs… but looking at it realistically, that’s highly unlikely. That means that we need to get Gradkowski and Losman as far along as we can (with assistant player/coach Charlie Frye along for the ride) and bring in another QB or two for camp, just to push up the level of competition… or maybe even find someone better than the options with which we find ourselves now.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:04 am
Trade Dmac for Swingin’ Steve!
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:07 am
Russell didn’t play under center at LSU, just like the great Tim Tebow, Alex Smith, etc, etc.
Of course it’s going to take Russell, just like those other guys, time to learn the game from under center. Which is why the game plan from the start was ridiculous. Why we got away from run, run, run, and run some more with a sprinkle of play action passing is a head scratcher to say the least.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:08 am
Trade DMACs playcaller …. oh, we did that already.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:10 am
Jhill, I have no problem admitting that our offensive line was worse than any that I saw last year… even the Rams and Lions were better in that aspect. However, until we have linemen who can give a QB with as many special needs as #2 the time he needs to figure out what to do EVERY TIME HE TAKES A SNAP, we have to go with a different option.
The stats speak for themselves: the turnovers were WAY down with Gradkowski, the yardage improved, and the points per game doubled. I’m not calling Bruce a messiah or saying that he’s a long-term answer, merely pointing out that although #2 isn’t ALL of the problem, he IS a problem (not necessarily THE problem, though).
Please don’t make the argument that Gallery and Schilens were back for the Gradkowski games and that alone accounts for the difference in the numbers. JaMarcus has had reps with many different combinations of players on the field, Gallery and Schilens among them… and he has never consistently gotten it done. The only way I would put #2 on the field as he is now would be if we had 5 all-pro linemen in front of him. In the obvious absence of such, we have to go a different route until he progresses.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:11 am
To clarify my position on #2:
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I wanted Peterson. I thought he would’ve made Walter look a lot better. Moss would’ve had to just hold out. I would NOT have traded him.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:12 am
Exactly Jhill.I love the running game and I’ve always thought you play to your strengths until the other team stops you.Maybe the problem was Cable having too many choices at running back.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:12 am
good morning AM crew!
hope everybody had an excellent weekend.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:15 am
Steve Alford is an asset to this blog
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:17 am
The last times Russell played with Gallery and Schillens, we beat Hou and Tampa, and looked pretty damn good against Dal in the preseason.
Russell with Schillens in Denver = a win, right?
How many balls did Russell complete to Schillens against Balt?
Are you REALLY going to tell me that having Schillens at WR wouldn’t have been at least another 5 catches a game instead of one of the rookies?
All you have to do is look at how bad Henderson was when Gallery wasn’t next to him man. I shouldn’t even have to talk about Gallery vs Morris and what that meant to not only pass protection, but the running game.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:19 am
As for JaMarcus not used to being under center, I always wanted to see him in the shotgun every snap. Not because it’s what he’s used to, though. No. With his limited ability to read a defense, he needs to have more opportunity to scan more of the field more quickly. With his weight issues, he needs to be in the shotgun so that he doesn’t waste valuable tenths of a second trying to haul his big ass back for a seven-step drop; hell, he can barely make a three-step drop sometimes. The only problem with this is that the running game would suffer from the extra time it takes to develop a running play as executed from the shotgun. We’d basically be limited to draw plays on the ground or the occasional sweep (which tends to get chased down with ease out of the shotgun).
The bottom line is that the cost in terms of total offensive options being limited is too great for us to chop down the playbook to only plays that are suited to JaMarcus’s special needs. Going into his fourth year, he should damned well have learned to play from under center by now. There can be no more excuses… it’s time for him to get motivated, get dedicated, and get it done… or get out of football. There are plenty of players (with fewer natural physical gifts) who actually WANT to play this game and have the love and desire and dedication to work for it who are far more deserving of a spot on an NFL roster than #2 has shown us so far.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:20 am
Morning Rockstar…JHill, Neilb and Vegas…
Good Weekend…YES! Not so good morning now…yes.
LOL
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:23 am
Neilb,
I really think the problem came in when all the injuries piled up. I really liked the gameplan in game 1. Bush and McFadden were being used perfectly. Play action, 2 TEs, etc.
If Chaz and JLH are available for that game, AND Nick Miller, we score 30 pts easy!
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:24 am
4eva,
all things, good or ill, pass away. But your words here will last 4eva.
Hope your upcoming break from computering will suit you well.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:27 am
Thank you, RaiderRockStar. I never said that JaMarcus didn’t have better games with Schilens. I said that that’s not the only reason that our stats were better with Gradkowski. You mentioned the Denver game as being a win because of Russell having Schilens on the field with him. If not for being in a go-for-it-or-lose situation, that final drive would’ve ended on a fourth-and-ten. And to whom did the pass that got the drive-sustaining completion go? A tight end. I believe it was Stewart, but I could be wrong. Either way, it wasn’t Schilens. If not for having an extra play and thankfully completing it, that series would have ended as nearly all JaMarcus series do: with a punt.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:28 am
Cable thinks the Raiders would have been a playoff team if he hadn’t been sacked with Russell as his starter for the first 9 games.
Cable returns as Head Coach in 2010.
Bottom Line is this: if he doesn’t outplay Gradkowski, Frye & Losman or whoever else they bring in for competition he will not be handed the keys for this offense. he has this offseason including OTA’s, training camp & preseason to improve his game.
I know a lot of you Russell fans think he should be given the job simply because he didn’t have a strong supporting cast the previous year. How did that work out for Andrew Walter?
Russell hasn’t passed for over 300 yards in 25+ starts in Oakland. Bruce & Charlie both accomplished that in less than 3 starts and this is their 1st season in Oakland, not their 3rd. Enough of the excuses. Cable & Co have already said “it’s on him”
Also, it’s time to strip the “C” off his jersey until he earns that too. Team Captain should be decided by players and coaches, not draft status.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:28 am
This notion that the playbook was chopped down in propaganda!
Cable called nothing but pass plays when Russell was in the game. Why would Cable continue to drop a guy back who didn’t know the plays?
No chance the routes were being adjusted to the ones that he rookie WRs could actually run? I’m sure 2 rookies were totally up to speed on all their assignments.
And we ran the exact same vanilla plays when Grads and Frye were in the game. You act like Cable was this master tactician and Russell was holding his brilliance back.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:32 am
Not sure I get your point of the 4th down completion to Stewart. That was a pretty good play by Russell, no? Especially with the game on the line.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:35 am
Who ever said Russell should be handing the starting job? In fact, I said last I checked he was 3rd on the depth chart since Cable was retained.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:36 am
Jhill, I agree that the gameplan and execution in the Monday night opener against San Diego were fantastic. I also agree that the mounting of seemingly endless injuries over the course of the season KILLED us. However, don’t take MY word on any of my JaMarcus speculation: Just watch the interview with Nnamdi at the Pro-Bowl on nfl.com As tactfully as possible, he said that JaMarcus wasn’t ready this past season. Nnamdi said that #2 needed to do a lot more to get prepared, not only for games, but for the season itself as well.
Why do you think that all the players’ voices that we’ve heard speak of #2 not being the guy and #5 BEING the guy? I’d be willing to bet that the players on the team are a lot better judges of who is better at leading the team as it stands now than we are. The players and coaching staff all said that Bruce gave the team the best chance to win… even after Gallery and Schilens were back. The only JaMarcus fan left at the end of last season was #2 himself. Even Al gave up on him just a bit. I will take the word of the players and coaches above your faith in #2. No offense meant, I just think you’re defending him past the point of rational argument.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:37 am
So Russell wasn’t elected Team Captain the same way the other guys were?
How do you know that?
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:40 am
You act like Cable was this master tactician and Russell was holding his brilliance back
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all I can speak for is myself, but here is how I see it. there wasn’t one fully functional part of the offense that worked last year unless you count the play of Seabass.
passing – trash
running – trash
o line – double trash
wr corps – double trash
play calling – double trash
but no matter which way you look at it Bruce & Charlie STILL outplayed JaMarcus and there is no reason to think that with better play calling under Jackson, another year of experience for the young WR’s and an upgraded OL via draft/FA would only benefit JR and not the other guys. Russell has to take it upon himself this offseason. The other guys are already working. They are known gym rats & film junkies. Unless JaMarcus suddenly develops a hunger (no pun intended) to be that type of player he’ll never be a top notch QB in this league. If he continues down the same path he’ll be out of the league in 3 years. It takes more than a strong arm to win football games.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:41 am
I never said that it wasn’t a good play by Russell on the 4th-and-10 to Stewart. I was saying that if #2 had been up to par and playing as well with Schilens in the lineup as you seem to imply, then he should’ve been able to get 10 yards in the first three tries there. It’s not like it went run-run-run, “oh crap, 4th down, save us JaMarcus!” and then he came through. He made a good play, but it should never have come down to 4th and 10 if he was truly playing as well as you seem to think.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:42 am
Off to get something to eat.
Have a great Monday everyone.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:42 am
LOL.
What does defending Jamarcus Russell mean?
Of course Gradkowski gave us a better chance. Why? Because he could run for his life better than Russell could, lol.
Grads played faster because he was faster.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:43 am
You know, I would scream if Russell is handed the keys again this year…especially if supposedly there will be competition at the qb position…oh well…already used to it!
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:46 am
Any NFL player can captain his team, and each team has its own method for choosing its captains. All of the duties are not in the official NFL Rules Book, and the range of responsibility varies across teams. However, NFL fans, players, and coaches alike hold particular expectations for a team captain.
The public usually observes only two duties performed by NFL captains:
1) calling the coin toss (at the start of regular or over-time play), AND
2) communicating with officials during play (such as calling time-outs, and accepting or declining penalties).
Dolphins coach Tony Sparano adds that “a captain is a guy elected by his teammates to be their spokesman” on and off the field. In other words, a captain is a communication conduit between players and staff for various matters. Sparano states, “I think [NFL captains] are the voice of the team.”
Team captains are also expected to lead as players and individuals. Since any player could be elected by his teammates, the role of captain is invariably viewed as a position of honor. Most teams choose permanent captains for the entire season. Some teams, like the Atlanta Falcons, select new captains each week as a way of rewarding excellent play. Regardless of how or when they’re chosen, all NFL captains are expected to act professionally and to respect, at all times, other players, staff, and the public.
For the NFL captain, fulfilling his game-time duties is vital to his team’s success. The role of spokesperson off the field is important for maintaining communication between players and staff. Displaying leadership and professionalism is equally crucial in the eyes of teammates and fans. Even though the specific duties and expectations may vary, the ROLE of “NFL Captain” is the most honored position any NFL player may hold.
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does that sound like JaMarcus Russell ???
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:48 am
RaiderRockStar, I like the way you think. If we upgrade every position on the offense, that doesn’t change the fact that Gradkowski is better than JaMarcus (at this point in their careers). Someday, #2 might be better than anyone could have imagined, but right now, he’s 5th on my Raiders QB depth chart behind Gradkowski, Losman, Frye, and Lechler.
Even if you discount WHO was in the lineup in games last year, hell, even discount the stats… the coaches and players on that team said that Bruce gave them a better chance to win than JaMarcus. I think they know more about who is a better NFL QB than you and I do, Jhill. And I listen especially hard when Nnamdi says it. He’s as articulate and intelligent a defender as you’ll see. His vote for Gradkowski alone is more than enough for me, even without the rest of the roster agreeing.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:48 am
No…Captain of the “All you can eat” buffett lines across America!
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:49 am
Steve,
It was Russell’s 2nd series of the game. He had been knocked out of the game on 2nd down. Came back in on 4th dn after Losman got smashed on 3rd dn and completed the 4th dn pass.
Denver’s pass rush was knocking the shyt outta our QBs all game. Do you remember the 4th qtr hit that Frye took?
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:51 am
he’s 5th on my Raiders QB depth chart behind Gradkowski, Losman, Frye, and Lechler.
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Steve: substitute Lechler with Danny Southwick and I’ll agree with that
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:51 am
“a captain is a guy elected by his teammates to be their spokesman”
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Again I ask you if you know that Russell’s team mates didn’t elect him captian?
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:53 am
Have a good day Nation!!! Time to finish up this assigment…and possibly get outta here!
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:54 am
Jhill, I don’t agree with you that Gradkowski outperformed JaMarcus because of his mobility ALONE, but that’s part of it… but nowhere near the biggest part. Did you notice that Gradkowski was able to read through all of his progressions faster than #2 could check the ONE-HALF of the field that he was assigned (because he’s too slow in that aspect, so they said “only read half”). That’s on record, bro. You can’t say they didn’t limit the playbook when it’s on record that they had to only go with certain routes and certain combinations because he could only make use of ONE side of the field. Also, Gradkowski flat-out just got the ball out faster, so he didn’t HAVE TO run for his life.
Nevertheless, I’ll play devil’s advocate here. Let’s say that you’re 100% correct that #5’s mobility is the ONLY reason that he outplayed #2. Given that, wouldn’t you pick the guy who got it done then (as you just admitted, he outplayed JaMarcus) to have the chance to do it again before trusting the less-mobile player behind a less-than-stellar offensive line? Even if you are right about the WHY, it doesn’t change the fact that you have to stick with the guy who gets results.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:55 am
each team has its own method for choosing its captains.
Jhill, you ripped a quote from the Dolphins HC …
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:57 am
Steve …
Slow down a minute, will ya?
I said that Grads with that Oline was a better option since he was more mobile. A guy with more mobility gave the offense a better chance to win. But Grads was the same 50% passer.
Losman? Been saying all along that he should be the guy in competion with Russell for the starting job. Say what you will about Russell, but Bruce Gradkowski is not taking us ANYWHERE!
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:59 am
So is that a “No, I don’t know”, RRS?
I am simply asking you if you know that Russell wasn’t elected Captain by his team mates?
I don’t know myself, thought maybe you did.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:00 am
the same people who think Russell should start over Gradkowski and others also think that Louis Murphy should start over Darius Heyward-Bey and Mike Bush should start over Darren McFadden.
do you want potential or production?
JR, DMC & DHB obviously have the most upside, but clearly haven’t got the job done on the football field when their #’s were called.
apart from a scholarship or some hard work this offseason I don’t see the past three 1st round picks on the field under Hue Jackson if he wants to gain yards, score points and win games!
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:00 am
That’s on record, bro. You can’t say they didn’t limit the playbook when it’s on record that they had to only go with certain routes and certain combinations because he could only make use of ONE side of the field.
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Show me that record.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:03 am
I said that Gradkowski isn’t a long-term solution, but we haven’t seen enough of Losman for me to say he’s the guy. When we signed him, I had a feeling that he WOULD BE the guy, but I can’t say that on faith alone, he has to show me something. In terms of getting results right now, we aren’t going to get our 1970s offensive line back any time soon, so yeah: Gradkowski is the guy ahead of Russell, plain and simple. Even if we add two better than average linemen, Gradkowski is still a better NFL QB at this moment RIGHT NOW than JaMarcus is. I don’t see how you can lobby for him right now. Are you going to blame all those interceptions last year on receivers being in the wrong spot? Most of the overthrows pretty clearly looked like the receiver ran the correct route and JaMarcus just flat-out threw bad balls. The number of blatantly horrible throws that he made is more than enough to make me question the validity of “he should’ve been somewhere else” on the borderline ones.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:03 am
Grads was the same 50% passer.
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completion percentage in 2009 –
Russell: 48
Gradkowski: 54
Frye: 60
Bruce also had 2x more TD’s than JaMarcus in 1/3 the amount of games
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:08 am
Jhill, I’m looking for articles on the progression reads now. I’ll go through my recordings of this season’s games later so I can tell you which ones mention it, because during the in-game chatter, announcers on more than one game mentioned their pre-game discussions with coaches, players, and staff and how Cable told them that they had to limit the playbook because JaMarcus couldn’t read the whole field, so they told him to only worry about reading HALF the field so that he wouldn’t get flustered or take too long to get the ball out.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:11 am
JaMarcus couldn’t read the whole field, so they told him to only worry about reading HALF the field so that he wouldn’t get flustered or take too long to get the ball out.
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Steve,
I think Rich Gannon or Steve Young said that too
Trent Dilfer & Tim Hasselbeck are always harping about his mechanics and footwork on NFL Live
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:16 am
Thank You M Lontree….
Your philosophical thoughts have always given me something to ponder,and true to form you don’t disappoint once-again my Brother.
I think tomorrow is my last post day.Hope 2B back by OTA’s
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:18 am
vegas raider Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Bruce was our best QB and leader, starting the first preseason game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSVy9M1vrcE&feature=related
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:18 am
I’m not even sure what we are debating here, lol.
Steve Young said it opening night, RRS, and boy did it take off from there.
Of course Russell’s footwork from under center needs work. So do all the other QBs who come from a spread system.
Steve, when you look back at opening night, you’ll see a highlight of replays they do on Russell that shows him going through 3 or 4 reads. They have some pretty cool graphics behind it too. I think it was right after Young was talking about he only looks at one guy, lol.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:19 am
did the USA really beat Canada at hockey???
saw the highlights on SportsCenter this mornin’
holy smokes!
that’d be like the Raiders knockin’ off the Colts in 2010 …
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:21 am
If not for Bruce’s clutch completions when Jamarcus needed a breather in the 4th quarter, there may have never been the 60 yard TD to Murphy on opening night.
One word people. “Grads”
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:21 am
Lonetree….
P.S……I am still searching for the ability to integrate all things
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:22 am
Jhill: if Russell’s footwork is still cr@p during preseason games, will you give him yet another pardon into Year #4 ?
how many years does it take?
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:23 am
God, it was a long weekend without you guys,…oh how Iv messed you all.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:23 am
BTW…..you better be back soon 4eva, who are we going to turn over the standard “good morning nation” too?
Hwndr? Dirt-Lot?
It’s your torch to pass, lol
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:24 am
All this Russell jibber jabber,..I have told you all already,..he will lead us to afc west title,..not kidding, my new row 1 insights have confirmed it…word.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:25 am
Yo Vegas, I will be down there thursday. Word.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:25 am
How about we go on what Cable said.
Russell was benched because he wasn’t getting the ball to the WRs. He has a very high completion % to the RBs and TEs, but he wasn’t even looking DHBs way, and Murphy was dropping balls left and right.
Did I say that all the INTs were because the WRs were in the wrong spots?
I know that opening night game, ALL the announcers were on the rookie Murphy for not finishing his route and letting Jammer get that ball.
The hail mary at the end of that game? You really counting that, lol?
And the 2 early picks in the Denver game? What were your thoughts on those?
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:27 am
Still waiting on your answer about the C on Russell’s jersey, RRS.
And what does give Russell a pass mean?
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:27 am
Jhill, I’m not ust talking about speculation… I’m referring to quotes from Cable himself regarding cutting the playbook down and JaMarcus’s inability to read more than half the field. I’ve been searching like mad, but so far I have only found references to a sound byte in an interview in Washington (that’s LATE this past season), in which Cable states that over 60% of the playbook has to be eliminated when JR is in the game because #2 can’t read the entire field. I’m still searching for the sound byte.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:28 am
Vegas,
Can we actually resign the guy before we talk about him starting?
On that note, is Russell the only QB officially on the roster?
LMFAO!
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:31 am
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February 22nd, 2010 at 8:31 am
You would think that you wouldn’t have to search so hard, lol.
Trust me when I tell you that Jerry would have been all over that, as well as Vegas, RRS, and a few other posters, lol.
60% of the playbook cut down? For an opening day starter? I can’t see ANYONE going on record with that. Good luck finding that.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:31 am
You know me VEGAS….Whoever stumbles in 1st and remembers 2 turn the lights on lol
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:31 am
Still searching for that elusive link, but this tidbit should whet your appetite for no… taken from The Sacramento Bee:
Still, in saying the Raiders were a “90-10″ team, meaning “90 percent of our guys really got it, and they’re doing it,” Cable admitted Russell was in that “10 percent that we got to … get them to a point where they can go in and perform like the other 90 percent.”
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:31 am
Still waiting on your answer about the C on Russell’s jersey, RRS.
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none of us know how the Raiders designate a team captain Jhill. so it’s basically a dead issue. My point was, according to that article he doesn’t display those qualities …
I said he needs to EARN IT. any debate there?
And regarding his coaches & teammates, judging by their comments over the past 7 months or so I’d be VERY SURPRISED if they voted him in again (if it did happen last year)
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:33 am
Steve Alford, wtf are you doing here?…you sucked in the NBA, Lord only knows what you and The General were doing in the locker room when everyone else was gone,…youre a tool.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:34 am
Fargas 4 Team Captain!
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:35 am
Russell was in the 10 percent that didn’t “get it”
on a 53 man roster thats 5 or 6 players
1. Russell
2. Heyward-Bey
3. Walker
4. Green
5. Carlisle
6. McFadden/Morris/Satele ???
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:36 am
On opening night in Candlestick, late MNF game for opener, Mike n Mike in the booth, Russell will destroy SF,..4 td tosses, and run in for one,…easy blowout win to set tone for running away from the rest in the west,…upset Pittsburg in afc title game,..win thriller over Dallas in superbowl,..my new row 1 insights are scary. Word.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:39 am
My new row 1 insights also have the Raiders drafting McLain with 8th pick….Im cool with that, I would take that and then if Spikes is available in 2nd round, take him too,..shytcan 52 and 53. Word.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:40 am
Norco, my name really is Steve Alford, but I’m not THAT Steve Alford.
Now please share the hydrocodone and I’ll pour an extra glass of Jameson.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:42 am
I said he needs to EARN IT. any debate there?
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Well, from what I know the C is given by the coaches and players. The way Russell and company ended the previous season and the work he was putting in, it would make sense that he was elected captain. There was no mention of him missing meetings or anything like that his past off season. He was always there at the famed QB school, lol.
You know the locals like Cam Inman would have been all over Russell not being there. Only thing we heard about this offseason was his inaccuracy in camp.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:43 am
I dont like whiskey,..I like tequila. Word.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:45 am
CMON Steve!
Is that the best you could do?
You do remember that the topic was the playbook and him reading the field, right?
Not sure how that 10% tidbit addresses that.
I’m looking for the stuff you said was on record about the playbook and Russell’s lack of knowledge in that regard.
Let’s not get distracted.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:47 am
Rockstar….please take Chris Morris off your 10% list….Altho I hoped he was starter material fro Mich.St.,I was wrong and Dakota was right…..BUT,I thought he filled in very well at RG LG and Center.Quite valuable if you wanna ask me
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:49 am
Jhill, please work on your reading comprehension. When I posted the tidbit about the 10% thing, I specifically stated that it WASN’T what I was looking for, but was to whet the appetite (and at least show you that I am indeed searching for the evidence. It was just something that popped up along the way. So far, I found references to the sound byte of the Cable interview in which he says that he has to cut down the playbook when #2 is in the game (he said it in an interview after the Redskins game THIS YEAR), but I can’t find a link to it and it’s driving me nuts.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:52 am
Fyi, when your search terms are “Cable interview Russell reads progression half the field” you get a LOT of results… and most of them are blogs and message boards and fan sites. It’s not as easy to narrow that down and find exactly what you’re looking for as you might think. Just because it’s out there doesn’t mean it’s at the top of the list of results… or even in the first 100 pages.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:53 am
Yo steve, can you change your name?…that name sucks…alford was a tool, still is, whined about being cut in the nba,..total bytch…change your name please, and i dont mean in here, i mean legally. Word.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:53 am
4eva: In Chris Morris’ defense, he didn’t play any better or worse than Grove, Wade or Satele IMO …
Jeremy Newberry (even with busted up knees) played better at center than any of these guys
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:54 am
Okay Bob, crush us up a couple of pills and I’ll pour you a glass of Patron Platinum. I’ll stick with the Jameson, though.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:55 am
Here we go … LOL!
Now we go with the reading comprehension jokes. Next thing you’re going to come up with is do I watch the games.
Let’s not go there Steve. I comprehendo you saying that stuff was on the record, and I’m still waiting on it so we can continue our conversation.
In the mean time, you have RRS getting distracted with the 10% stuff. Why would you think something off topic would wet my appetite?
Comprehendo the distraction reference now?
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:57 am
Grove was a good center!
When he was actually on the field, that is. Couldn’t keep going with a guy that could only play half the games.
Starting to think about Chaz in that regard.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:57 am
Patron, now were talkin,…by the way my Norco and Soma just kicked in, I love it when that happens,…all good now,..feelin better, nevermind about the name change, Im ok now.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:58 am
True RRS….hes like a utility guy in baseball,I guess.But every team needs a versitile O-Lineman,thats why I was also impressed by the Road-Grader Walker….Think what ya want but Walker and Green’s a lot-o-beef 4da right side
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:59 am
you have RRS getting distracted with the 10% stuff.
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I’m getting distracted?
from what?
work maybe. LOL
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:59 am
Steve,
Don’t drive yourself mad looking for a quote from Cable saying he had to dumb the playbook down because of Russell. Your not going to find it.
I’ll conceded your point though, for the sake of moving on.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:00 am
and Ima thinking in “team” terms here.We just cant have whole-sale cuts right now,this team has no depth.Soo I’m thinking like Cable here and doing the best with what we have
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:00 am
Bob, although I have nothing to do with what HE did with this name, I’ve grown rather attached to it. Also, it’s what all my friends and my gf call me. I don’t know if I could deal with the confusion that a name-change would bring. I’ve been Steve Alford for almost 30 years now… I may as well just ride it out. I’m pot-committed, as it were.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:02 am
NOOO WAY I’ve seen Rockstar dig up stuff from years ago,attend meetings and still have a conversation with “those people” LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:03 am
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:03 am
Walker and Green’s a lot-o-beef 4da right side
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fat guys don’t always dominate the lines 4eva.
look at Terdell Sands!
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:05 am
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:05 am
OUCH
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:07 am
I’ve seen Rockstar dig up stuff from years ago,attend meetings and still have a conversation with “those people”
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4eva: I’m not sure I dominate the meeting room any better than Cable dominates the locker room … hehe
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:07 am
Thanks for that, Jhill… if you had pressed for me to come up with a link, I really would lose my mind on this search (though I’ll probably keep looking, just not as fervently). Sorry if I my frustration in the looking led me to insult you there about the reading comprehension… it’s just that you said that you weren’t sure how the 10% comment addressed what I was looking for, but I stated when I posted the 10% thing that it wasn’t part of that answer, just something ancillary to whet the appetite. I wasn’t trying to take it to gradeschool and get childish. Mea culpa if I did.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:08 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!!
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:10 am
Jimbo Fisher is Florida State’s offensive coordinator and head-coach-in-waiting. He also recruited Russell at LSU and coached him there for his entire college career; Fisher has known Russell since the player was a freshman in high school.
“All the things they say about him, I never saw those problems,” Fisher said Wednesday from his office in Tallahassee. “It baffles me to hear that stuff. We film-studied; he carried three or four plays to the line of scrimmage; he read defenses and checked down.
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Lane Kiffin is also on record saying how hard Russell was working last offseason.
Can someone please tell me what happened this past offseason? How does it all go downhill in one offseason?
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:10 am
Bob, I’m ready for that line any time now. I’ll bust up a couple of Perc 15’s and match you milligram for milligram with oxycodone for hydrocodone (yes, I know yours are 10mg of hydrocodone per pill… unless Norcos have changed since I left Cali in August… pharmacies here do Lortab instead). Deal?
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:11 am
Steve : even if they didn’t dumb down the playbook for Russell last year, maybe they need to?
3 TD’s and 17 turnovers displays a commitment to excrement …
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:12 am
Well Im heading to Ice House today, bring some grass, cooler of Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale,…spend the day, or a few hours anyway,…for those not living in or around paradise,..its on hwy 50, above Pollock Pines…word.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:14 am
Steve, 2 Norcos, and 1 Soma,…and a couple tokes of Blueberry…word,..sorry bud but you cant beat that with any of your combinations. Word.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:18 am
Jhill, though I have hated the pick since that horrible draft day a few Aprils ago, I always wanted JaMarcus to improve. The best chance of him progressing to an acceptable ability level within his first five years died when Kiffin got fired and Cable have Knapp retained. Kiffin’s gameplan to develop #2 was going well. The running game was shouldering most of the work and helping take pressure off JR while he was slowly exposed to the in-game requirements of his position at this level. Even though Kiffin didn’t want JR to be the pick, he appeared to do as good a job as he possibly could in helping him. Al’s words and tone during the overhead projector fiasco basically said to JaMarcus: “You can do whatever you want… if you mess up, it’s the coach’s fault. If we don’t win, it’s the staff’s failure at bringing out your glorious talent and potential… and you have done no wrong and are incapable of doing wrong. You’re a great football player… they can all get over it.”
Al Davis single-handedly destroyed any chance he had at saying “I told you so” to anyone over JR being a great NFL QB… at least within the first five years, anyway.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:22 am
I actually quit smoking the sticky green about a year ago, Bob. I had a few hits last night, but nothing that I’d call a session. I spent about 6 months going through a quarter a day, every day and then just decided that I was done with it. Nowadays, I much prefer to snort a few painpills and have a couple of boulder glasses of Jameson. To each their own, says I… as long as we can find that which brings us pleasure. Cheers!
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:22 am
Jhill: are you still hanging your hat on Russell’s 2008 season?
14 TD’s, 15 turnovers and a 5-11 record doesn’t impress me bro. sorry
Monte Kiffin quit on the Bucs defense. Mike Bush ran over them. the Texans weren’t a playoff team, plus they ripped us a new one in 2009 so it doesn’t matter
Russell has shown NOTHING in 3 NFL seasons …
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:24 am
WTF snort the pills?…am I missing something?..better then swallowing them?
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:25 am
Steve,
I agree with you to a degree on Kiffin and his staff. Some folks want to tell me how good Hackett and Tollner were as instructors, but I just don’t see the results. And Rich Gannon saying so doesn’t make it true.
You saw development under Kiffin and Knapp, and you saw regression under Cable and Hackett.
Fact of the matter is with Russell at QB and still developing, we should have NEVER been an air it out kind team.
I’m still waiting on your answer to the Russell INTs from earlier. What did you think of the 2 picks he threw in the Denver game?
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:27 am
Hey that Raider Cruise, in May,..to Mexico,..whos in???…sounds awesome!…Im sure old Kell will be there,..either has ship owner/captain,..or he will have mop in hand swabbing the deck,..one of the two…lol
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:29 am
Yes, Bob… snort the pills. Until the mid 20th century, when pharmaceutical companies decided that they could make more profit by controlling the dosage of medication in pill form, medicines were predominantly taken by either snorting a powder or by placing the aforementioned powder under the tongue to dissolve. These means of medicating allow the medicine to enter your system almost immediately, rather than having to be broken down in the stomach and take about half an hour or more (depending on pill concentration or coating) to be absorbed into the bloodstream. If you want to feel those norcos IMMEDIATELY, you gotta crush ‘em and snort ‘em, my friend.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:30 am
Believe me RRS,
I know that until you see 30 TDs, 4000 yds, and no picks from Russell ON THE FIELD, there will be no praise for Russell coming from you, lol.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:32 am
LOL!
CMON BOB!
I thought you knew how to get high man!
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:34 am
Sorry for the delay there, Jhill. You’re talking about the blowout where DMAC fumbled at the 5, right?
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:37 am
If I recall correctly, the first pick was behind DHB just a bit and way too high.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:38 am
Wait, no… that was the second one… the one that really pissed off the crowd. Remind me of the first one please? It’s 12:37 now and I still haven’t slept yet.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:38 am
Used to snort alot of blow, then progressed to the glass pipe,..so guess can try crushin some Norcos,..thanks for the tip.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:41 am
Wait… I remember. The other was when DHB fell down. But if I recall correctly, there were TWO defenders draped all over him. How can you defend JR for throwing that pass in the first place? Seriously, even if DHB hadn’t fallen, that was a pick. He had a corner on his hip and a safety coming up directly toward his face.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:42 am
Nah Steve …
Game 3 against Denver, the first pick DHB fell down.
The second pick, DHB was bumped coming out of his route and their should have been a flag.
I’m sure you can look that up on NFL.com.
What about the pick in the 2nd SD game where Miller was held coming out of his route, and Murphy ran the wrong pattern bringing his guy into the play?
See that’s 5 answers to your question of whether I thought all of Russell’s picks were because the WRs were in the wrong spots. 5 of 11 picks.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:43 am
Any time, Bob. The acetaminophen shouldn’t might bother you a bit if you’ve never snorted one before… that aspirin makes for more powder than I prefer… that’s why I like Perc 15s and 30s… but you should be fine. Norcos don’t have too much. It’s not like you’re going for a Lortab 5… now THOSE are hell: way too much powder to snort for only five milligrams of hydrocodone!
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:46 am
Why do you always go to the defending Russell card?
That’s like me saying you’re excusing the terrible line play because of Russell.
As for that play, all I can say is Michael Irvin KILLED DHB for his effort on those 2 plays on NFL Network post game show. I, for one, would have NEVER called that play from our own end zone.
The second INT was after a nice run for a first down! Why did Cable call a deep pass play in the first place on 1st dn after a nice run?
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:48 am
I’ll have to look at all of those again, but I know for sure that the one where DHB fell down was into heavily blanketed double coverage. No matter what the receiver does, even if he CATCHES IT, that’s still not a pass that you can say should have been thrown. If the reason for the second pick was that DHB was bumped off his route, then how can you justify throwing to a man who is covered so tightly that he’s getting bumped after 5+yards and also has safety coverage over the top?
Even if, hypthetically, the throws were where JR intended and a receiver should have been there, they were thrown into double coverage with a defender at the exact spot where the ball came down. That’s just horrible reading of a defense. Those passes never should have been intercepted because they never should have been throwin in the first place.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:49 am
My point is with a better Oline, better WRs, and a better play caller, I think Russell will look better than he did last year with a terrible Oline, bad WRs, and a bad playcaller.
Will those improvements make him Peyton Manning or anything close? Not at all.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:52 am
I will never excuse DHB for anything. I hated the pick. The kid has stonehands and was a complete waste when our needs were clearly on the lines. Also, I don’t mean to defend the line, but even if there was extreme defensive pressure in JR’s face, I’m still left with this question in that regard: Did the linemen throw a ball into double coverage instead of to a checkdown or throwing the ball away? The line is COMPLETELY accountable for the pressure that got to JR, but not for what he did with the ball when faced with the pressure.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:52 am
DHB was not blanketed, Steve. If DHB doesn’t fall down, he has a chance to make a play on the ball. Now the odds are he drops it or it clanks off his hands, but that’s another story.
Now why Russell is throwing passes to DHB in the first place is a question we were all wondering. But Chaz was hurt, and we only had DHB, Murphy, and Watkins healthy for that game.
You wouldn think that Cable would haev busted out the jumbo package and heavy 2 TEs instead of 4 verticals.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:54 am
Morning Nation.
Don’t get to say this much……….
Great win last night DUBS!!!
Stef Curry for ROY!
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:54 am
As far as the playcalling, I know that if I worked for Al Davis, I’d attempt to slip in a seam pass at every opportunity. That’s a great piece of job security right there. Al would rather lose with his gameplan than win the Superbowl with Gruden’s dinking and dunking. (I was furious when Al traded Gruden)
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:55 am
My point is with a better Oline, better WRs, and a better play caller, I think Russell will look better than he did last year with a terrible Oline, bad WRs, and a bad playcaller.
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so will Bruce, Charlie & JP …
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:56 am
check this out Steve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I03-KirmFM
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:58 am
Jhill, we should’ve been in double-tight for EVERY game last season. Especially annoying to me, however was that when Schilens went down, we should’ve considered doing something with Javon… you know, put him on the active roster so at least one guy who knows how to catch a pass can get into a game. He may have been incredibly overpaid, but if he had made one catch, he would’ve out-earned all the other non-Murphy/non-Schilens WRs on the team.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:59 am
Nation
Re: Russell
RRS will tell you I was one of the last Russell supporters.
And as bad as his play was on the field, he didn’t lose me there.
He lost me in the press conferences. His attitude and off the field decisions have completely destroyed his credibility.
If Russell throws for anything more than 15 TDs and has less than 15 turnovers, he will be Comeback Player of the Millenium.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:01 am
so will Bruce, Charlie & JP …
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Who?
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:03 am
Agreed on 672 Steve 100%!
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:07 am
And Jhill, the heart of my point about JR was just made by RRS. All the things that you say need to be improved that will make JR so much better… will also make Gradkowski and Losman better. I haven’t seen enough of Losman lately to say he’s better than JR (though it’s hard to imagine that he’s not), but I have far more faith in Bruce than in JaMarcus. I wish I could think of specific examples, but I remember seeing dozens of passes from JR that were nowhere near anyone. Even if fully half of those were due to receivers running the wrong route, that leaves the other half being bad throws or JR thinking it was going to be a different route.
I’m straining at this moment to remember any passes from Bruce that landed ten yards from the nearest receiver and I can’t. Bruce threw plenty of passes to the rookies and always seemed to be on the same page with them. Did Murphy and DHB know the playbook better when #5 threw it or is the fact that they were “ignorant rookies” just a convenient excuse for JR being inaccurate? When Bruce threw toward DHB, it was almost always a dropped pass; when JR threw DHB’s way, he almost never even got a chance to drop it.
If we get a better Offensive Line, better WRs, and better playcalling, I’d still rather have Bruce or JP under center than JaMarcus.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:08 am
Where’s my man SnB …
I remember posting a youtube clip last offseason that started a good day’s discussion.
I know the topic was Russell, but that video illustrates Morrisons shortcomings more than anyone else!
We need a MLB in the worst way. Morrison’s errors end up literally turning into points.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:14 am
Look Steve …
Russell is on the roster, and Bruce isn’t. If Bruce Gradkowski were as important as you and some other tend to make out, then why haven’t we resigned him?
Al allowed Russell to be benched last year. For whatever reason. If Grads or Frye were really impressing anyone, they would’ve already been resigned. Not throwing out the hope they call me lines.
Any QB will be better with an improved Oline, WR, and play caller. The point is RUSSELL, the only guy on the roster, and the guy we are talking about, can be better than he was last year. We all seem to think Russell will be starting next year, so I’m focusing on what it will take to make him better. If I thought for one second that Grads would be starting next year, I’d be talking about what would make him better.
Because I am a realist about Russell, doesn’t make me a fan of his. The owner loves him, not me.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:17 am
I don’t know if you were here yet this morning when I covered my thoughts on that.
Quick synopsis: First, we have to upgrade our DT situation. When Centers and Guards get the RB to the second level EVERY TIME they run the ball, the MLB is already at a disadvantage. Second, we do our damnedest to get Dansby or another EXPERIENCED MLB. We can’t be plugging rookies in and expecting immediate performance at NFL-quality levels. After acquiring an experienced MLB, we move Morrison to Strong Side LB, where his athleticism will come to use and he won’t have to worry about reading as much and covering as much ground. We let Trevor Scott spend the offseason, camp, and preseason honing his skills at Weak Side LB. I know that many think he’s only good as a WLB in obvious passing downs, but keep in mind that he’s VERY new to this position. The kid is a true gamer. I believe that given some time, he’ll be top-tier at that spot, even against the run. Lastly, we keep Howard in as a backup to rotate in when others need a breather. All the talk of McClain and Spikes sounds great, but I don’t think they can break into an NFL 4-3 defense as MLB’s and perform well as rookies. We need a vet.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:21 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11VOXR7NplA
We need a MLB!
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:23 am
I know the topic was Russell
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who?
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:23 am
Steve,
Let’s look at that Denver game again. point out to me on those big runs how the DT is the problem?
I think the tape shows bad LB play.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:24 am
LOL RRS!
Stop stealing my material.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:24 am
I believe that we haven’t re-signed Gradkowski yet because Al wants to try to get him at the cheapest rate possible. I think he’ll let #5 test the free agent market for offers to see what his market value is before making a deal. Al knows that Bruce wants to be a Raider. We’ve all seen and heard the interviews. Bruce is adamant about wanting to help lead a turnaround for this organization.
It could all have just been a brilliant ploy to try to get re-signed and make some money, but I don’t think so. I genuinely believe that Bruce was sincere. I think that Al knows he can get Bruce, but doesn’t want to overpay (shocking for Al, I know… but he’s already done way too much overpaying), so he’ll wait and let it play out. He knows that Bruce won’t sign a contract with anyone without coming to Al and asking him to match it or do better. I could be wrong, but that’s why I think Bruce hasn’t been re-signed yet. Either that or Al forgot that the league has Free Agency now.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:25 am
who?
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the only guy on the roster
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:26 am
If Bruce Gradkowski were as important as you and some other tend to make out, then why haven’t we resigned him?
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Vincent Jackson, Miles Austin & Brandon Marshall are all restricted free agents too. Does that mean they aren’t important, because they haven’t been re-signed yet Jhill?
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:28 am
Hey Steve,
Would you rather sign Capt. Kirk, than Howard?
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:28 am
Jhill, take note: I never said Morrison was a good MLB. In fact, I said he needs to be moved. He’s got all the tools to be a great Sam, but he sucks as a Mike. He might be passable if we had decent DT play, but he’ll still never be better than “okay” as a Mike. My point was that Morrison DOES need to be gone from that position, just not taken off the roster entirely. One of the other points was that we need a veteran MLB, not McClain or Spikes. I just don’t think they will be dominant MLBs in our 4-3… especially behind Warren and Kelly.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:29 am
Logan Mankins, Marcus McNeill & Jared Gaither are restricted free agents.
not re-signed yet = not that important
sign them now! fix the O-Line!
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:30 am
@DMAC:
If we can move Kirk to SLB, I’d rather release Howard than Kirk. If the option for Kirk is ONLY MLB, then dump Morrison in a heartbeat.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:31 am
Again, If Bruce is as important to the Raiders as you make him out to be, why would Al take the chance of letting him walk? WE’re talking starting QB who will take LAST YEAR’S team to the playoffs. He didn’t let Seabass, Lechler, Nnamdi or any of those guys go. There’s already talk of Seymour being tagged. Yet not one peep about Gradkowski?
Maybe his 54% completion wasn’t that impressive to brass.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:31 am
our run defense was terrible for 3 years (2003-2005) BEFORE Kirk Morrison inherited the MLB job …
thats what happens when you go 7+ years without a real NT
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:33 am
I believe Urlacher still has something left in the tank and could really uprade the MLB and be the QB on D. Trade for a possible 3rd or 4th rounder????
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:33 am
Are those guys starting QBs RRS?
Give me an example of a QB who can take a given team to the playoffs, without question according to the coach, who isn’t under contract for that team?
Like my man B say, I’ll wait!
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:33 am
There’s already talk of Seymour being tagged. Yet not one peep about Gradkowski?
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restricted free agents can’t be tagged Jhill. only unrestricted ones can …
RFA’s receive tenders instead
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:35 am
Oh, wait… Wow, I really need some sleep… I completely forgot the different rules for RFAs and tenure in this uncapped season. Jhill, the reason that we haven’t re-signed Gradkowski is because we can just slap a tender on him and see what the OTHER teams think he is worth. We can match the offer or go ahead and take the other team’s draft picks. However, by placing a high enough pick requirement on the tender, we guarantee that he stay in Oakland.
How? Simple… Bruce hasn’t been in the league long enough to walk away to another team on his own. We have to LET him leave by accepting a team’s offer for him. Until the Raiders agree to getting another team’s draft picks for the right to Bruce, he IS on the roster… he just hasn’t signed a new deal yet. Is it a stupid way to do business? Yes. Is it how all of the NFL teams are doing it? Yes.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:36 am
I echo your sentiments on JR as well Jhill.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:38 am
Gradkowski is a restricted FA.the Raiders can keep him just by matching any offer he gets.No need to rush to sign him,he isn’t going anywhere unless some team totally overpays him and then we get compensation.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:38 am
Thomas Howard or Morrison …
Hmmmm ….
At OLB, specifically WLB, or not over the TE, I go with Howard and his speed.
Scott is playing SLB these days when he’s at LB.
With that in mind, I’d replace Morrison.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:38 am
Matt Moore, Jason Campbell & Kyle Orton are RFA’s that could probably lead a team to the playoffs.
this is a weak class for free agent QB’s though Jhill. I think thats why you’re trying to lead your general comment to now be specific toward QB’s. funny how you do that so often
you know it’s slim pickings when Pennington & Culpepper are the top UFA QB’s!
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:43 am
LOL.
So we are going to lowball Gradkowski with a league minimum deal (do you really expect any offers from other teams), and he’s going to be our starter next year?
LMFAO!
So he starts next year and takes us to the playoffs. Does he hold out for more coin?
Cmon guys. If Gradkowski was a QB capable of ending this teams playoff drought, I doubt we play the games your suggesting. If we are playing those games, Gradkowski can’t be viewed as anything more than a backup.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:44 am
Jhill, I disagree on the LBs. You have to have Scott on the weakside to let him have better passrush opportunities in obvious passing downs and put either Morrison or Howard on the strongside where they have safety help. I know that Scott is new to LB, but I trust him on an island more than Morrison and Howard already. The kid has better football instincts than both of them combined.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:45 am
Urlacher, anyone???????
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:45 am
Starter by default.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:46 am
O Mock Draft 6.0:
1- LB McClain
2- RT T Williams if he falls, or Kyle Calloway
3- DT Cam Thomas
3- DE Austen Lane
4- LB Micah Johnson
5- WR/ KR Jacoby Ford
5- CB Walter Thurmond
7- Best FB available
What do you think Nation? Should we draft Leroy Vann who had 11 TDs returns in 2 years, or jacoby Ford who can play WR also, and may run a sub 4.25.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:47 am
who said anything about a lowball offer Jhill?
Jerry Mac says:
A second-round draft pick tender would bring Gradkowski $1.759 million _ or the Raiders could simply lock him up for similar money over two seasons.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:47 am
Have you heard of this guy named Al Davis before? Yes, of COURSE we lowball Gradkowski. After no one puts out an offer sheet for the picks plus a salary (or puts out a modest offer that we match), then we go ahead and sign Bruce for just a bit more than the least that he’ll take with the promise of a fair competition for the starting job and an opportunity to lead the team based on his strength and ability. Bruce is the perfect guy with which to play that kind of childish game… he’s the kind of guy who will play at a low salary just to have the chance to be great. In other words, he’s the kind of guy you wish all your players were like.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:47 am
I think thats why you’re trying to lead your general comment to now be specific toward QB’s. funny how you do that so often
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LOL RRS.
Whatever dude.
I thought the topic all along was the QB position. You bringing out WR examples led me to refocus your argument. Of course in lieu of you actually coming up with a relevant example you jab me in the ribs, lol.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:47 am
I wouldn’t draft either.
We’ll have Nick Miller ready in week 16.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:48 am
RRS …
Let me know when we slap a 2nd rd tender on him.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:49 am
O,do you actually think we will take a KR after sitting on Miller all of last year?
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:50 am
RRS, $1.8 million IS lowball for a “starter” at QB. So yes, we lowball him, but after no one gives us the pick for his rights, we offer him a contract of 5-10% over what the tender amount requirement would’ve been. Bruce happily signs it and tries to become the starter.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:52 am
Steve,
I’ll take the exact same things Marshall was doing to end the season with a new MLB, Warren as a backup, and Routt playing exclusively on the outside.
Scott at various LB positions doing various things. Including putting his hand down as a DE on certain downs.
Warren in year 11 needs to be a backup.
I like Howards speed and ability to cover better than Morrison.
And Routt in the slot is a disaster. But he’s pretty good when playing on the outside.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:54 am
Lefty,
Maybe. He is a late RD pick (5th), and he runs a sub 4.25! Al loves speed.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:56 am
Every NFL team LOVES speed.I’d rather get some beef on the Oline where we need starters and backups.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:57 am
The Miller issue last season was crazy. Let a guy take a roster spot all season, and he didn’t play at all due to injury. To make things even worse, he is an unproven rookie!
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:58 am
Have you heard of this guy named Al Davis before?
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Who?
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:59 am
To make things even worse, he is an unproven rookie!
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But he looked good in camp O! Even designed a couple of plays for him, lol!
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:01 am
I have to say I am looking forward to getting Miller on the field. He’s going to be our Wes Welker and finally allow us to get that head case JLH outta here!
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:01 am
I Agree lefty. we need BEEF. I think we should cut Warren and Walker since it’s uncapped, and sign the best G & C in FA. We save 12 mil in salary that we can spend ok the new FAs. I think we need some solid Vets on offense more than we need young talent. IMO
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:02 am
Good morning Nation, Urlacher won’t make it through the season.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:04 am
Ok: on*
LMAO @ “our Wes Welker”
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:05 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51vwI0hZ2FQ
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Steve, does Murphy falling down on this first play mean anything?
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:06 am
Russell is on the roster, and Bruce isn’t. If Bruce Gradkowski were as important as you and some other tend to make out, then why haven’t we resigned him?
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that was your original comment Jhill. then you revised it to be more specific after I listed examples of other talented RFA’s on the market
with the above comment, it’s easy to assume you’re talking about any restricted free agent …
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:07 am
He is White, Short, and Fast. He is our Wes Welker!
Word!
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:09 am
Steve,
How about Murphy and JLH higgins crashing into each other or the Oline breakdowns in the video?
What was the last thing prime said, lol?
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:09 am
It seems pretty obvious the team is being built with young talent for the long haul.Why change now and go back to the days of overpaying for other teams cast-offs?A FA here or there,ie. Ellis,is ok but I’d rather build a good line with young guys who will be around awhile.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:10 am
Watch that play again. He jumped as high as he could and that ball was still five feet over his head. He fell down on the landing. I’m not exaggerating. Watch it again. Here, I’ll put up the link so everyone else can see that I’m using it as evidence. First play shown on the highlights: JaMarcus overthrowing the intended receiver BIGTIME.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51vwI0hZ2FQ
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:11 am
$1.8 million IS lowball for a “starter” at QB.
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Steve, nobody is going to give Bruce starter money. Not even Al Davis. 4 solid starts is a good place to begin, but you’re always afraid of turning up the next Scott Mitchell. All Bruce is asking for is a chance to compete for the starting job and I think thats all we’ll offer him when contract talks begin or the tag is issued …
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:12 am
RRS,
My comment referenced 2 QBs man. The discussion was about QBs, and in particular a starting QB who the coach said would have taken us to the playoffs.
But …
I’ll concede your point so we can just move on.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:14 am
I would like EVERYONE to watch that clip and comment on it. Do you not see that the receiver hit the ground AFTER the pass was past him? He leaped and couldn’t get to it, the ball sailed over outstretched hands and directly do a defender. He did NOT fall down before the ball got there or even while the ball was there. It was already gone before he hit the turf.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51vwI0hZ2FQ
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:14 am
There are clearly few players that fit the Raiders philosophy in this free agency. Some might command ridiculous money we can’t afford like Hampton, Peppers, Dansby but there are few that can fit. Personally, there is one who can solidify this offense by 50%. That guy is Center Kevin Mawae, a true leader for the offense who can help any QB playing along with this horrible offensive line.
A line up with him is an instance upgrade over what we have now.
LT Henderson
LG Gallery
C Mawae
RG Walker
RT Rookie or Barnes
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:15 am
Who was the intended receiver Steve?
Cromartie picked it off, and Murphy fell down right in front of Cromartie. Do you NOT see Murphy get up off the ground right in front of Cromartie?
Are you assuming that he was throwing it to Miller?
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:16 am
Bruce Gradkowski has shown more promise in 4 starts than Russell has in 25.
nobody is saying he’s going to become a 10 year starter in Oakland or that he has Pro Bowl potential.
you pay the players that produce. you keep those guys in the fold. When given the opportunity Bruce played better at the QB position than anybody else who lined up under center for the Oakland Raiders in 2009. that is what it boils down to IMO
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:17 am
18 Steve …
18! Cromartie was guarding Murphy and the ball dropped right in his hands with Murphy rolling around on the ground in front of him.
2nd question. Why were 2 receivers in the same area?
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:17 am
RRS, I agree with you completely about Bruce. I was merely stating that for the purposes of him competing for the starter job with a pretty damned good chance of getting it, that’s low money. No one in the league will give him starter money because he’s not good enough to beat out the #1 QB on any team’s roster… except in Oakland. Personally, I hope he gets a contract full of performance-based incentives and ends up making more than JR this year. I know that’s highly unlikely, but it’s good to imagine a hard-working guy who is loved by all his teammates coming out ahead.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:19 am
I’ll take a Pro Bowl C.
No argument here.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:19 am
You make a great point lefty. The issue is Mr Davis is about 4-5 years late on doing this, Fans are giving up, and home games are being Blocked. We need fans for revenues, so I think we need some results next season. We have a lot of picks, it’s an uncapped year, so we need to use this off season wisely. Release the big contract with no production, sign Seymour, sign the best G & C in FA who had a Solid career or PB talent
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:20 am
Personally, I hope he gets a contract full of performance-based incentives and ends up making more than JR this year. I know that’s highly unlikely, but it’s good to imagine a hard-working guy who is loved by all his teammates coming out ahead.
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David vs. Goliath all over again. haha
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:21 am
Jhill: Actually, I WAS looking at Zach. Lol @ me. Damn, I need some sleep. I’m going to head off now. Great discussions everyone and I thoroughly enjoyed talking to you all. Have a great day, Raider Fans.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:21 am
later Steve!
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:28 am
Cromardie was 5 yards behind the receiver.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:29 am
What receiver, Lefty?
Cromartied was checking Murphy, who fell down in front of him. If Murphy doesn’t fall down, that pass goes right to him.
I guess your saying that he overthrew Miller?
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:32 am
Every highlight I look at takes me back to the defense.
Some of the UNTOUCHED plays we were giving up are just not going to cut it.
Defense in rd 1 and 2!
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:33 am
sorry Jhill.actually,after looking again, that was the 1st time i noticed 18 on the ground.I always looked at Miller,who it seemed ,the pass was intended for.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:36 am
25 starts made JaMarcus look like a bust, not 1 or 2 passes …
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:38 am
It’s all good Lefty. Factor in the last play on that video and Primes comments, and let’s just say it wasn’t a good game by the beloved Murphy.
And we only lost by a TD and folks want to blame it on the QB? I don’t see how Bruce at QB helps Muphy stay on his feet or not run over JLH, lol.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:42 am
While the majority of people-not just Raider fans,but league people who work in the NFL for a living-believe he is a bust ,he will be given more than every opportunity to be the starter next year.Too much money was invested in him.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:45 am
Sorry RRS,
I thought we were talking about last year’s start for Russell. Plenty of video to go over. I know you can’t view it at work, but I think if there was something there, your fellow Russell bashers would be trying to point it out, lol.
All we’ve gotten so far is a couple of “my bads”.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:47 am
I still don’t believe that pass was intended for Murphy given the fact that we all know Russell always focuses on his TEs.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:48 am
LOL!
Ok Lefty. But your eyes tell you that if Murphy doesn’t fall down, the pass hits him, not the guy who was covering him who didn’t fall down.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:50 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-R_wZiudcQ
Barnes getting punked = Russell not having pocket presence.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:56 am
what my eyes tell me is 55% of Russell’s passes are off target so it is impossible to say who that pass was intended for.A QB should be able to hit his WRs in stride-Russell doesn’t-except his TEs.Therefore,i seems obvious to any observer that that particular pass,which sailed right over his TEs head,was intended for the TE.maybe you don’t see it that way,but i do!
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:57 am
Cmon guys … plenty of film here. Help RRS out. Someone point out the obvious flaws in Russell’s game.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:59 am
Lefty,
If Murphy doesn’t fall down, does the ball hit Cromartie right in the hands, or does it hit Murphy?
CMon man, I know how you feel about Russell’s alleged work ethic, but geeze.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:01 pm
You know Bruce scored major points with Al, by actually getting DHB a TD in his short time playing.
That moment alone might make Al re-sign Grads.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:01 pm
A QB should be able to hit his WRs in stride-Russell doesn’t-except his TEs.
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If he can hit his TEs in stride, then maybe we need better WRs? It doesn’t make sense that he can connect with Miller, Stewart, Meyers, Chaz, the RBs, and not DHB, Murphy, and Watkins.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Hell, trade for Bowe, and Doucett! We know he can hit those guys. Or as some folks like to say, we know those guys can go get Russell’s passes that he just throws up.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Why is it when other QBs get hit they don’t fumble with regularity?Gradkowski got beat up playing behind our terrible line,he wasn’t a fumble machine.Frye got beat up behind our terrible line,he wasn’t a fumble machine.Yet Russell fumbled regularly,Why is that if he has such great pocket presence?
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:10 pm
and I know how you like to blame everyone and everything but him.You constantly focus on a few plays instead of looking at the whole picture.Every QB misses passes now and then.Every QB has passes dropped by his WRS now and then.The good ones overcome those mistakes-Russell hasn’t so far.maybe someday he will,who knows.All i know is I won’t hold my breathe waiting for it to happen.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:12 pm
got things to do-later!
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Barnes getting punked = Russell not having pocket presence.
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Remember our conversations the past 2 weeks?
I guess you wanted Barnes re-signed BEFORE “watching film” then, eh Jhill? LOL
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:26 pm
new post!
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