Mayock on Raiders


A good three weeks before the 2009 draft, NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock became the first to forecast the selection of Darrius Heyward-Bey to the Raiders with the seventh pick.

Sports Illustrated’s Peter King and National Football Post columnist and former Raiders exec Mike Lombardi climbed aboard later, although most amateur and professional pundits had Heyward-Bey going much later in the first round.

“He’s a height-weight-speed specialist. The fastest guy at the combine,” Mayock said at the time. “This is an Al Davis special. You pair him with JaMarcus Russell and Darren McFadden.”

Understand, Mayock was looking at it through the eyes of the Raiders and their history. As he reminded the media on a conference call Tuesday, he wasn’t on board with any of the Raiders’ Big Three. He didn’t like Russell’s work ethic, McFadden’s ability to break tackles or the extremely raw skills of Heyward-Bey.

“My own personal opinion if you’ve followed the past few years, I said JaMarcus Russell was the most gifted college quarterback I ever saw but I wouldn’t taken him with a first round pick,” Mayock said. “I said Darren McFadden’s lower body went dead on contact and I didn’t think he made people miss. I thought Heyward-Bey was just a work in progress and no way should he have ben a high first-round pick. I’m on record with all three of those guys and felt they reached on the height-weight-speed scenario.”

(To be fair, Mayock was caught in an information void regarding the Raiders second-round pick, safety Mike Mitchell. However, rather than criticize the pick, as Mel Kiper did, Mayock conceded the simply didn’t know anything about him. Mitchell’s first season was derailed by hamstring issues although he began to receive playing time late in the season in some defensive packages.)

So who might the Raiders be looking at as the combine convenes this weekend? Mayock wants to see how the numbers play out, but he has a position in mind with the Raiders at No. 8.

“I think offensive tackle becomes a primary need and I think there are four of them worth taking in the first nine or 10 picks,” Mayock said. “You look at Kansas City at No. 5, seattle at No. 7, Oakland at No. 8 and Buffalo at No. 9 all have big tackle needs. It wouldn’t surprise me to see the Raiders wind up with Anthony Davis, Trent Williams, Bryan Bulaga, and of course, Russell Okung.”

Mayock said he considers this year’s draft crop as poor for quarterbacks and interior offensive linemen, but could consider a scenario where as many as six tackles could go in the first round with a big dropoff after the top seven, with the other notables being Charles Brown of USC, Vladamir Ducasse of Massachusetts and Bruce Campbell of Maryland.

Here are links to profiles of Mayock’s top seven tackles:

Bryan Bulaga, Iowa

Anthony Davis, Rutgers

Trent Williams, Oklahoma

Russell Okung, Oklahoma State

Charles Brown, USC

Vladamir Ducasse, Massachusetts

Bruce Campbell, Maryland

A few other Mayock observations from Tuesday’s conference call . . .

— He believes the value of the combine, particularly where quarterbacks are concerned, is the chance for all 32 teams to see how the players matchup with each other in a competitive environment rather than in the controlled nature of a Pro Day.

— Oklahoma’s Sam Bradford, if his shoulder has healed, is the class of the quarterback class.

“I think he’s a franchise quarterback if he checks out medically,” Mayock said.

He considers Colt McCoy a second-round possibility, likening him to Jake Plummer, and Tim Tebow a third-or-later selection.

“Give him two redshirt years while a veteran plays to work out his mechanical issues,” Mayock said.

— The top two players, and it’s not close, are both defensive tackles _ Oklahoma’s Gerald McCoy and Nebraska’s Ndamukong Suh

Although Mayock believes a quarterback need often overrides the “best player available,” he said of taking Bradford before either player, “You’d better be 100 percent sure Bradford is going to be an All-Pro because you’d be passing up an all-pro tackle for the next 10 years.”

Mayock gives a slight edge to McCoy, believing him to be the more disruptive player against the pass in a league skewed heavily toward passing teams.

— The No. 3 player on his board is Oklahoma State wide receiver Dez Bryant.

“When I see Dez Bryant on tape I can’t get Andre Johnson out of my mind,” Mayock said.

— The best available safety is not USC’s Taylor Mays, but Earl Thomas of Texas.

“I don’t think Mays is as instinctive, but he’s a big, tough guy in the middle of the field,” Mayock said.


Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • SD_Raider_619

    Higgins needs to step up and stop having flashbacks from week one. Since the week one game, he has not been the same, i dont blame him but come on you play football man

  • RaiderRockstar

    2 years ago Higgins was our best receiver AND return man!

    he got popped Week 1 and was shell shocked for a few weeks, but he came back around …

    Higgins & Schilens have better hands than Heyward-Bey & Murphy! Even McFadden does when split out wide

  • SD_Raider_619

    do you really thing he came around? How many yards in punt return did he have last year? I will give it to you better hands then DHB but not murphy(rookie mistakes). We dont need another Wideout, we need someone that can return punts, period! We are going to bring in a vet wideout this year, dont know who but we will.

  • SD_Raider_619

    34 punts for 177 yards and longest return 19 yards!!! what do you think about that?

  • SD_Raider_619

    2008: 44 punts 577 yards and 3 td in 2009: 0 tds

  • RaiderRockstar

    if you guys want to do something about the WR corps let me make a suggestion. right or wrong here is my take:

    -cut Javon Walker. He should have played last year since he was healthy and our highest paid WR not nicknamed DHB or stone hands. he’s in the doghouse

    -get an experienced WR Coach. Sanjay Lal is not getting the job done. Give Ted Tollner the job since he’s not needed as PGC anymore

    -do NOT allow scrubs like Todd Watkins & Nick Miller on the 53 man roster. effort only goes so far. We needed TALENTED high-effort guys in the fold

    -bring in an established vet with something left in the tank. Isaac Bruce, Torry Holt, Chris Chambers, Muhsin Muhammad & Derrick Mason are all unrestricted free agents. the young cats need a veteran presence/influence. a mentor type

  • A very Happy 67th. Birthday to Freddie B.!!

  • SteveAlford21

    Do you guys mind if I play the “Living in the recent past” game for a few minutes?

    I really just wish that we had NEVER let CW out of the building. Imagine if our defensive backfield had CW and Aso on the corners playing press… wow. Unlike with eAngleo Hall (there’s no D with him), we actually KNOW that CW can play corner in our system. Naturally, Higgins wouldn’t be an issue because we would have Woodson returning punts. *sigh* Gotta love “what if’s.” I’d trade Johnson and a 1st rounder to get back the CW WITH turf toe on both feet!

  • SteveAlford21

    Correction: Johnson, Higgins, and a 1st round pick for Woodson with turf toe on both feet.

  • SD_Raider_619

    RR i agree with you, amen!!!!!!!!! mr 7eleven needs to go, iam sorry lmao. Did you see the play when the higgins and murphy ran into each other. I know player execute plays but come on the blames goes on to the coaches to discipline these players

  • RaiderRockstar

    Murphy had 9 drops last year. DHB had 6 drops

    Chaz with 2 and JLH with 3

    Watkins also with 2 …

    thats 22 drops not including RB’s or TE’s

    yeah. Lal & Walker gotta go!

  • I sure hope Al goes after some O-line help with the 1st. pick. But, I could live with Price from UCLA at DT. I watched a few of his games last season, the kid is a football player…

  • SD_Raider_619

    How is CW situation in GB??

  • RaiderDebo

    -do NOT allow scrubs like Todd Watkins & Nick Miller on the 53 man roster. effort only goes so far. We needed TALENTED high-effort guys in the fold

    LOL! This coming from a guy with a bigger man-crush on Grads than Vegas!

  • SD_Raider_619

    Damn homeboy is locked with GB for 7yrs, WOW

  • SD_Raider_619

    DHB only has 6 drops because he was injured LMFAO

  • IF Taylor Mays slips to the 2nd. rd. No way Al passes on him. Especially if he runs a 4.2 40.

    Just sayin…..

  • RaiderRockstar

    This coming from a guy with a bigger man-crush on Grads than Vegas!


    post what I said about Bruce that displays a man crush please!



  • SteveAlford21

    Okay, how’s this: We trade Johnson, Eugene, Morrison, Higgins, and every Offensive Lineman to Green Bay for CW, Aaron Kampman, and A.J. Hawk (a player that WE should have drafted, TYVM).

  • SD_Raider_619

    Steve, call up Al right now he needs to pull the trigger lmao

  • SteveAlford21

    And yes, I was screaming on that draft day for us to take Hawk.

  • RaiderDebo

    I’ll give you this RR. At least you recognize that it takes a hell of a lot more than “high effort” to shine in the NFL.

  • RaiderRockstar

    We trade Johnson, Eugene, Morrison, Higgins, and every Offensive Lineman to Green Bay for CW, Aaron Kampman, and A.J. Hawk


    how about just CJ, Eugene, Carlisle, Green & Satele for C-Wood ???

  • Good Afternoon Nation, The Only Nation.
    Love this read and i think it has a lot of how i feel right now, and about alot of the fans and players.

    Rarely do people ever consider our current state is the result of our failures as a nation.

    As Raider fans, we have always blamed Al Davis when our team struggles.

    We have also blamed players like Jeff George, Aaron Brooks, Daunte Culpepper, JaMarcus Russell, and other QBs.

    Yet rarely do fans ever consider to blame the team as a whole, the organization as a whole, or god forbid… Raider-Nation as a whole.

    Everyone—from the fans who support (or don’t support) their team, to all the players who don’t produce, to Al Davis and the rest of the Raider front office.

    JaMarcus Russell, as well as Al Davis, shares blame in the Raiders’ struggles. But neither is the sole reason for the team’s failures. That’s why it’s called a team.

    Suggestions that the Raiders would have been in the playoff hunt without Russell, or without Davis, are all absurd.

    Russell took a lot of heat from a comment he made suggesting that his receivers weren’t on the right page and needed to do a better job. Some fans and the media then came out claiming that Russell was just immature and doesn’t know how to claim responsibility.

    Immature? Sure, some rookies entering the league this year will be older than Russell. He is still a young man; expecting Brett Favre- or Kurt Warner-like maturity out of the guy is insane. Sure at his age he may be a little immature, but is that any surprise?

    Can’t take responsibility? That all stemmed from two comments Russell made. One came early in the year when he suggested his receivers weren’t on the right page. And one came after he was benched when he suggested Gradkowski’s success against the Steelers was because others were making plays.

    “Now it’s just all around. Guys are just making plays around him,” Russell said. “In the Dallas game, after you go out and win in Cincinnati, there weren’t plays really made the whole game, you know what I mean.”

    “Going into Pittsburgh, guys were making plays for him. That’s what a quarterback needs, his surrounding players. That’s what was going on.”

    That comment like everything JaMarcus says or does is over analyzed by the microscopes of a vicious media and fans.

    Great QBs have always passed blame. John Elway did it. And Russell can’t even hold a candle to the amount of whining Rich Gannon did about his teammates while in the league.

    Reporters who make a living degrading the Raiders with over-inflation of should be non-stories are no better than tabloid writers. And their opinions have no more substance than stories regarding Lindsay Lohan’s party habits, a feud between Jennifer Aniston and Angelina Jolee, Oprah and Stedman’s relationship, Brad Pits’ new beard, or whether Britney Spears wore shoes in a gas station bathroom.

    Even if Russell was spreading blame to everyone but himself, was it not deserving? And did he not make an excuse for Gradkowskis’ struggles against Dallas as well?

    Was protection not almost non-existent for all Raider QBs all season? Did the Raiders not give up the second most sacks in the league? Did the level of protection provided by the Raiders O-line not result in Gradkowski suffering two torn MCLs and Frye suffering head injuries back-to-back weeks?

    With all that, it’s easy to say the O-line failed Russell as well as every other Raider QB.

    Then there are the receivers. Russell accused them of not being on the right page. When two receivers collide running their routes, that assessment becomes pretty obvious.

    Furthermore, at least six of the Raiders INTs were dropped balls that came off of our receivers’ hands and into a defender’s. And the team’s leading receiver was a rookie with only 34 receptions.

    It’s easy to say the receivers also failed.

    Then there’s coaching, the real issue. With Justin Fargas, Darren McFadden, and Michael Bush at their disposal, the Raiders some how managed to rank close to the bottom of the league in total rushing yards, at 21st.

    And while the team continued to struggle through the air, rather than rely on the talented back-field, the Raiders coaching staff elected to pass even more.

    Then there’s the fact that Russell rarely went over anything with coaches after a failed drive. This is true, but it’s also the coaches’ job to come to him. It’s supposed to be a mutual relationship. Anyway, who is he supposed to go to? Tom Cable has no positive credentials outside of coaching the O-line. Paul Hackett hasn’t been part of a real football team since 1998. And Ted Tolners’ last real football job was with the 2005 Lions and they deemed him unworthy as an OC, demoting him to TE coach.

    Others have suggested that, being in the same offense for three years, Russell should be further along by now.

    But here-in lies a huge problem. Suggesting Russell has been in the same offense for three years is suggesting the Raiders current coaching staff is incapable of developing their own offense.

    That would suggest that the Raiders are running the same offense that Greg Knapp and Lane Kiffin installed.

    As much isn’t completely out of the question, though.

    It’s unlikely the offense was created by Tom Cable, unless he installed the same offense he ran with the Idaho Vandals. That though could explain how basic the offense is.

    Ted Tolner? I doubt it unless we’re running the same offense that led to Tolner being demoted from the offensive coordinator position in Detroit.

    Paul Hackett? C’mon, the guy is a fossil and the last time he was part of any success at the NFL level was in 1998 with the 49ers.

    Some have suggested that the three collaborated to create an offense. But that would likely play out like an episode of the three stooges.

    Then there are those who believe the Raiders are just running Al Davis’s offense.

    Suggesting the simplicity of the offense is because JaMarcus has been unable to grasp an NFL offense is ridiculous.

    Look at the offenses he ran in college and even his high school’s numerous formations, sets, and packages. They both make Tom “Basic” Cable’s offense look elementary, rivaling the complexity of your average Pop Warner team.

    It is easy to suggest the offensive coaching staff failed epically.

    Unless of course if you believe the same guy who led his team to a 41-14 victory in the 2006 Sugar Bowl, was four-time SEC Player of the week, and was the “Manning Award” winner is suddenly too dumb to grasp an offense.

    Russell was drafted No. 1 overall in the 2007 draft. Along with the obvious huge contract and ambitions of becoming the face of the franchise, being drafted first overall also means you were just drafted into the worst situation in the NFL.

    When a QB is drafted first overall or anywhere in the first round for that matter, the team needs to be built to accommodate that player. You need to get him weapons, protection, and play-calling that cater to his ability.

    As seen by most of the prior mentioned issues, it’s obvious the front office has failed as well by not giving Russell and the team the tools they need.

    Then there’s us, the fans. We’ve failed as epically as anyone else. We failed JaMarcus the second we booed him.

    And by failing to sell out the Coliseum on so many occasions, as well as booing. All we have done is fail our team and shown that we as a fan base are not nearly as strong as we used to be or as loyal as we often claim.

    Fans who boo their own team are merely the fan base’s weak link. And fans who claim to be refusing to support the team, refusing to go to games, or boycotting the team for whatever reason were never real fans to begin with.

    Fans who do what I mentioned above do nothing to help a bad situation and do nothing but break down players and an already struggling franchise, and are merely the “image fans” the Raider-Nation is so often accused of being full of. The only reason these people even associate themselves with the team is because they like the colors or the “thug” or “rebel” image” often associated with the team. They are nothing but posers.

    It seems the media has finally destroyed what was once one of the league’s proudest fan bases, and it only took seven years.

    Now don’t get me wrong. JaMarcus Russell failed as well with his performance and by showing up to camp overweight. And Al Davis has failed by hiring inept coaching staffs. But neither failed alone. The Raiders failed as a team and an organization.

    Now, it would seem, the Raiders are headed in the right direction with the hiring of Hue Jackson. He at least has decent offensive coordinator credentials, most recently serving as the Ravens QB coach. Dating back to 1996, he has been the offensive coordinator for five teams, including the 1996 Cal Bears, 1997 USC Trojans, 2003 Washington Redskins, 2007 Atlanta Falcons, and now the Raiders.

  • SteveAlford21

    Hey, if we make THAT trade, then all we have to do is replace Warren and Kelly with two REAL Defensive Tackles… or switch to a 3-4 and replace them with ONE. 😀

    I know that we’ll never switch to a 3-4, but now that Trevor Scott is a linebacker, I think Morrison might be better served as an ILB with Howard at ILB beside him instead of having him at MLB to play turnstile after Warren and Kelly take RBs tickets and admit them to the secondary. Scott at Weekside, Morrison, Howard, then Ricky at Strongside. Ellis/Richardson at End, a Nose Tackle to be determined, and Seymore/Shaughnessy at end. I like that better than what we have NOW.

  • SteveAlford21

    *Weakside* damned typo

  • Aaron Brooks Career Passer Rating 78.5

    Johnny Unitas Career Passer Rating 78.2

    Ken Stabler Career Passer Rating 75.3

  • SteveAlford21

    RRs, that’s a good trade proposition, but I’d rather have Kampmann and Hawk as long as we’re dealing… we need upgrades at LB.

  • RaiderDebo


    R8dr4lfe21, this is the post of the year hands down! I couldn’t agree with you more.

  • RaiderRockstar

    5pm in Podunk. later gents!

  • SD_Raider_619

    later RR

  • SteveAlford21

    @ Kell:

    I have a bone to pick with you and Priest. You two say that when people call JR fat, lazy, and dumb that it smacks of racism. Well, let me drop some knowledge on you here…

    The only racist connotations for being called dumb are for POLISH people. JaMarcus isn’t Polish… Gradkowski and Janikowski are. You don’t hear any of us talking about them being dumb, do you? People call Russell dumb because despite his actual intelligence, he does dumb things: he makes dumb decisions on the field, he doesn’t learn the playbook, and he skips meetings.

    The only racist connotations for being called lazy are for Mexicans or other hispanics. JaMarcus isn’t hispanic. People call JaMarcus lazy because he doesn’t run in practice (I’ve seen it at the Napa Mariott myself), he moves like a turtle with three broken legs, and he is fat (if you want visual evidence, check out the Away games from last year… you can’t tell in the black Home jerseys, but in a white jersey, you can see his big stomach protruding. How many elite quarterbacks are there with a GUT?) When talking about his weight being from good ole home cooking and such, that isn’t a racial shot… it’s because he’s from the SOUTH (he went to LSU, ya know). I’m a southerner, too, born and bred… trust me, all the “black food” that is mentioned that you think is racist… that’s the stuff I eat every day… and it will all make you fat as hell (like JaMarcus) if you get lazy and don’t work it off.

    The only people placing these insults in a racial context are people who want to ignore JR’s faults and make excuses for the accurate things others say. You want to deflect the truth and try to attack the source rather than deal with what was said. In truth, it shows that you either WANT to see racism everywhere you look or that you are racist yourself (in the belief that anyone who criticizes a black man is doing it ONLY because of race). I’m of almost total Irish heritage. My two best friends for the past 12 years and counting are a black Muslim and a Persian. That having been said, JaMarcus is fat, lazy, dumb (in reference to football), and a waste of potential. He could turn it around, but until he proves otherwise, those terms all apply. There is no racial correlation.

  • Senior Beeecham

    Great stats, Krappy. I’m surprised you had time between remodeling your 1 bedroom apartment and finalizing your mortgage on your Swiss chalet to post those.

    What’s next, you old goat? How about the Raider’s win / loss record over the last 7 years. Everyone is really curious about that.

    I’m sure you can squeeze in that link before you have to run off for your afternoon haircut.

  • SteveAlford21

    Oh yeah, and the lazy part goes for skipping meetings and not coming to Team Activities as well.

  • SteveAlford21

    The lazy part is also tied to his appearance of apathy. He MIGHT care a lot when he screws up or when the team makes mistakes, but he doesn’t show it. For all appearances, he just doesn’t care and doesn’t want to put forth the effort to lead or even be bothered with it. Granted, a good player should have a short memory, but that’s vastly different from not even noticing at all. Having a short memory means that you learn from the mistake and put it behind you, not that you ignore it like nothing happened, then go do it again the next series. The way he handles himself is purely emotionless and robotic.

    Frankly, he seems too lazy to even care. That may not be the case inside him, but that’s what he SHOWS… and that affects his teammates as well. You don’t lead by shrugging and then sitting on the sidelines wearing a beanie and a blank stare. At LEAST talk with your offensive teammates after a bad series, fumble, or interception so that you can keep spirits up, eliminate the mistakes, or just try to find a groove. A lot of insults come from THAT.

  • M Lonetree


    yet for any dissection, interjection or recognition of blame there remains a constant which has not been addressed with even a modicum of success in recent years. The O-line.

    All great Raider teams have had an excellent offensive line anchored by a dominant center.
    Otto, Dalby, Mosebar, Robbins.
    Alex Mack sat there available to begin the new era of dominance. But no.
    Ryan Clady sat there available. But no.
    Eugene Monroe and Michael Oher sat there available. But no.

    Whatever value the Cable Guy has as a coach it is definitely not in evaluating O-line talent. He seems to prefer making do with cast-offs and scrubs and attempting to turn them into ZBS golden boys.
    It is time to end that crap and to get some real offensive linemen once again.

    Only then can the corner be turned.

  • DKnight007

    If Dez Bryant runs a 4.3-4.4 40….the old man Al will still take notice.

  • Carl Weathers

    This just in———-

    Cable being sued by Randy Hanson!!!

  • Carl Weathers

    RR, since it will never happen anyway, I’ll stick with T-Jax 😉

  • DKnight007

    Move Lal to quality control on offense and move Ted Tollner to the WR coach position!

  • SD_Raider_619

    This just in Lamont Jordan got released by the DONKS

  • SteveAlford

    Post #82 Ridiculous. Mexicans & Polish. Racist & Stupid.

  • donkos, have released Wiegman, we should go get him, great zone blocker..

    chargers wants to split ways with cromatie, he has complained about to much zone play, he wants more man2man… him opposite Nnamdi would stop all passes…

    my 2 smallish cents..

    see ya..

    and fkuc Randy Hanson….


  • SteveAlford21

    I wasn’t being racist, Kell… I was pointing out to you that “Lazy” and “Dumb” don’t contain racist connotations against blacks.

    If the people calling JaMarcus lazy and dumb were racist and only criticizing him BECAUSE they’re racist, they wouldn’t be using those terms. You are just avoiding trying to counter the criticism because you can’t. Instead, you attack the source. It’s a logical fallacy from debating “Ad Hominem.” Since you can’t dispute that JR misses meetings, doesn’t learn the playbook, and is fat, you instead say that the only reason people say that is because they’re racist. I’m merely pointing out that the words they’re using aren’t racially charged… at least not toward BLACKS.

  • Senior Beeecham

    Krappy, did you just wake up from your afternoon nap? You seem more confused and groggy than normal.

    Maybe you’ll perk up a bit if you have your wife hose you down in the backyard.

    That’ll give you the pick me up you’ll need to post your next irrelevant link.

    After all, Krap Krap, we don’t want you to compromise your “Blog Personality” status with sloppy link posting!

  • DKnight007

    IF Dez Bryant runs a 4.3-4.4 40 time….the old man Al will still take notice IF he is still there at #8.

  • SteveAlford21

    I’ll give you an example… and I’ll use a positive stereotype to do it:

    1. I say that DHB is fast.
    2. You say “You only say that because he’s black. You’re a racist.”

    Nowhere in your reply did you counter the fact that DHB is fast. You imply an argument by attacking me, but never GIVE an argument. Instead, you attack the person who said it. Change 1 to “I say that JR is lazy.” Just as there is no racism in calling DHB fast, just as there is no racism in calling JR lazy. You just have no valid counter to “JR is lazy,” so you call me a racist to “win” the argument.

  • RaiderDebo

    KoolKell Says:
    February 23rd, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    Post #82 Ridiculous. Mexicans & Polish. Racist & Stupid.

    KK, ur right on. I knew once this subject came up yesterday that there would be some crazy posts. Here it is.

  • Not everybody, but many of the comments about Russell are stereotypical. And he has made himself an easy target.

    But the Caricature is Fat, Dumb, Lazy. Fried Chicken, Hamhocks, Neckbones. All Day/Everyday on this blog.

  • DKnight007

    The extra value with Bryant is that he can also return punts!