Suit could force Cable to talk
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, February 23rd, 2010 at 5:12 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Now that Randy Hanson has followed through with filing a civil suit against the Raiders and coach Tom Cable, at some point in the future Cable may have to go on the record.
And there are few things Al Davis likes less from his coaches than going on the record. He’d prefer they be seen and not heard, and he’s not even that keen on them being seen.
During the criminal investigation conducted by the Napa authorities into the Aug. 26 incident, which Hanson claims left him with a broken jaw, Cable maintained his silence with both the public and law enforcement other than saying the system would bring a just end result.
Cable wasn’t obligated to talk with police. A civil suit demanding a jury trial which alleges the infliction of assault, battery and intentional influction of emotional distress would require Cable to speak in his own defense.
No telling, of course, how long Cable and the Raiders could drag this out before that actually happens.
Hanson returned to work for the Raiders in the personnel department on Dec. 9 but has kept his distance from Cable under terms specified by the Raiders, according to court documents filed by Hanson’s attorneys, McGuinn, HIllsman and Palefsky. I’ll detail some of those requests below.
The suit comes as no surprise, and was hinted at by Hanson’s attorneys when Napa authorities declined to press charges.
Hanson declined comment to beat writer Steve Corkran, and the Raiders (surprise!) had no comment.
The suit says Cable “without warning or provocation willfully, maliciously and intentionally attacked” Hanson and claims Cable “battered and seized (Hanson’s) left jaw and neck” before being restrained by other coaches. It asks for damages in “excess of $25,000.”
(The amount is essentially a starting point. Court documents state Hanson is entitled to “an award of punitive damages in an amount to be proven at trial.”
As was previously alleged by Hanson in an interivew with YahooSports.com, it says Cable threatened to kill Hanson.
Also included in the “Facts Common to All Causes of Action” in the court document filed in Superior Court of California, County of Alameda:
– The Raiders have ratified and adopted as its own the willful, intentional and malicious acts of Cable against Hanson.
– Cable’s attack was not out of character. Cable has several times been accused of violence against women and has a documented public record of such conduct.
– As time went on, the Raiders made no effort to contact Hanson, and indeed ignored his efforts to clarify his employment status. Although the Raiders had ample opportunity to investigate Cable’s attack, they made only a cursory attempt to do so. Cable was not and has not been disciplined in any way for the egregious workplace violence which he committed.
– Then, on December 8, 2009, a Raiders representative contacted Hanson’s attorney and informed him that although Hanson would not immediately be permitted to coach, he would be allowed to “work” at the Raiders facility in the personnel department under certain conditions. These conditions included the following: Hanson was to park in front of the facility, rather than in the rear where players and other coaches parked. He was to enter only through the front entrance, rather than the rear entrance which was used by players and coaches. He was only permitted to be in the “administrative” area of the facility and could not enter the “football” side of the facility. He was not to attend any Raiders home games. If he wished to eat the lunch provided daily to the Raiders staff, he must ask someone to bring it to him. If he wished to access video tape in order to evaluate players, as his new “job” required, he was to ask someone to bring it to him.
– Hanson was initially told that these conditions would be effective for only four weeks. However, on January 28, 2010, the owner of the Raiders, Al Davis, informed Hanson that he would no longer be allowed to coach. In essence, Hanson’s segregation would remain in place so long as Hanson remained employed by the Raiders.
– The conditions imposed on Hanson’s employment effectively segregated Hanson from those who were once his colleagues. At the very least, these work conditions conveyed the impression that Hanson was being punished for some kind of malfeasance.
– In fact, the only conduct for which Hanson could be held responsible was being the latest person to fall victim to Cable’s violent rage and uncontrolled temper.
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February 23rd, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Uno!
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:13 pm
no Grad is NOT a franchise qb..no one said he was.
All that has been said is he is, in almost EVERY category, a better qb than JaMultipleButtCheeks.
that’s a fact.
REFUTE IT, IF YOU CARE TO.
Has better touch on the ball…FACT.
has better pocket awareness…FACT.
has better footwork….FACT.
fumbles less…..FACT.
Knowledge of playbook? lol…do we need to go there?
Average yds per game? 143 for Grad..107 for JR..
TD/Int Grad 6/3 JR 3/11
QB Rating? Grad 80.6 JR 50.0
Sacked? Grad 1 out every 13 passes JR 1 out of 7 passes
Leadership ability? No contest…JR couldn’t lead a cub scout pack.
Respect from players? Players are very careful to NOT throw teammates under the bus (JR being the exception) so while many have NO COMMENT when asked about JR, MANY gladly state they appreciate what Grad brings…AS COMPARED TO JR.
Sure, some have the politically correct ‘We still have faith in JR’ when DIRECTLY ASKED, knowing full well that Al/coaches/players are reading what they’re saying.
But WHAT DOES JR DO BETTER THAN GRAD? Going to point to a COUPLE of deep balls that just happen to fall in?? A COUPLE/FEW IN A WHOLE SEASON? (conveniently forgetting the dozens of deep balls that weren’t even close).
Only a fool would state “With a better Oline, more talented receivers, JR wins hands down over Grad”…
Hell, some of JR balls were so badly thrown, even the announcers AND the players weren’t sure who he was throwing to.
Grad might not be the franchise qb. Might not be the “future”.
What he is is an improvement, in EVERY category, over Russell.
Works for me.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:13 pm
What do you mean “could”? Suit WILL force Cable to talk.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:14 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 4:46 pm
I have to frank with you guys, I have seen Jamarcus a bunch up close and he never looked fat to me. I think that is a bit of an urban legend. Even Jerry said as much during preseason opening.
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That’s because you’re not just an idiot, Oakglenn, but you’re a cross posting lying sack of crappola.
Dude…you state “I’m leaving for the game”…at 12:00 NOON..and then at 12:30??? YOU’RE STILL POSTING..and that’s for a 1:15 kickoff.
You’re a liar..plain and simple.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:16 pm
Hey wack-job I told you where and when I would be there. You ran away and hid like a girl. CU.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:16 pm
Sweep, Im in 126,…Iv been trying for a pair in the black hole in row 1 for about 15 years,…I had a pair in 108 row 8 for a while,..you know Rilla some?…he pops by our tailgate in A lot for a few minutes every game,..dudes in demand though,…hes busy.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Randy hanson deserved it.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:17 pm
http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2008/05/16/sp_raiders_058_pc.jpg
Repost from Steve in last thread..a ‘must see’ for ANYONE who states JR isn’t fat.
Damn…I mean..we’re talking rolls…HOW IN THE HELL COULD A QB, OF ALL PLAYERS, SHOW UP TO CAMP THAT SOFT? THAT FLABBY?
Sad
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:20 pm
– Cable’s attack was not out of character. Cable has several times been accused of violence against women and has a documented public record of such conduct.
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yeah… um…
is Hanson admitting he’s a woman???
just askin’…
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:20 pm
And BTW Wack job read this. It’s your biography:
The Psychopathic Troll:
The psychopathic troll is motivated to participate in an internet forum by psychotic delusions or compulsions, or by a neurotic seeking of false self esteem. The postings of the psychotic troll are unlikely to make any recognizable sense at all. The Neurotic Troll either seeks to obtain false self esteem by manipulating the reactions of others, or by demonstrating his “power” to destroy what others enjoy. The neurotic troll is often manipulative enough to make it past the initial moderation.
Ring a bell wack-o?
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:22 pm
randy hanson deserved it,..so did cables ex. Word.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:22 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:16 pm
Hey wack-job I told you where and when I would be there. You ran away and hid like a girl. CU.
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Bull****…LIAR.
Care for me to repost it?
You stupidly, in your feminine way, commented to RON, saying “that hurt my feelings. I’m a big fairy. Meet me wherever in 20 MINUTES”..
That was to Ron, MORON.
And who the hell states “Meet me somewhere in 20 min”???
Then CROWS ABOUT THE FACT THEY WEREN’T AT THE SLUM CORNER YOU LIVE ON???
You have no idea where Ron is.
He never accepted your challenge.
But leave it to YOU, BEING THE PUNK AND PUZZY YOU ARE, to crow that “Ha ha..he didn’t show”.. lol….
You’re an idiot..along with being a liar…and a cross posting coward.
Hey..again..my apologies.
Yes, yes, I know..you’re “proud to live in the hood”..you’re “proud you never got away from the slums”.
But..are you proud? Or just too damn weak?
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:22 pm
Wack-o’s kids go to school for their first day. The other kids come up. ” Hey Wack-o Junior. What does YOUR dad do?”
“My dad is an internet troll!”
The other kids all laugh at wack-o junior.
“Oh yeah,” wack-o junior states, “he’s the best internet troll there is!”
The other kids just laugh again.
Ring a bell wack-o?
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:23 pm
word.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Did you read this Wack-O?
Seymour Bush Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:20 pm
And BTW Wack job read this. It’s your biography:
The Psychopathic Troll:
The psychopathic troll is motivated to participate in an internet forum by psychotic delusions or compulsions, or by a neurotic seeking of false self esteem. The postings of the psychotic troll are unlikely to make any recognizable sense at all. The Neurotic Troll either seeks to obtain false self esteem by manipulating the reactions of others, or by demonstrating his “power” to destroy what others enjoy. The neurotic troll is often manipulative enough to make it past the initial moderation.
you might want to submit a picture to go along with the defintion. Dress nice.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Seymour? YOU WERE BUSTED BY THE MOD WITH OVER A DOZEN DIFFERENT HANDLES.
Everyone knows it.
Everyone just laughs at you.
You’ve also had a half dozen posters here LAUGH AT YOU, being the biggest troll around, actually posting with numerous handles at the same time, having conversations with yourself..daring to call anyone else a troll.
You think if you keep saying it that it negates everyone calling you one?
It doesn’t, coward.
At all.
Dude…at one point you were BANNED BECAUSE OF ALL OF YOUR HANDLES…so save it, coward.
Everyone knows you don’t have the balls to back up your words.
Everyone knows that at some point Seymour will disappear..just like your Captain Black handle..just like Oakglen..just like the rest.
You’re a coward.
That’s what cowards do.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Richochet Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:17 pm
http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2008/05/16/sp_raiders_058_pc.jpg
Repost from Steve in last thread..a ‘must see’ for ANYONE who states JR isn’t fat.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Russell looks about 10lbs over weight in that photo. I’ve got 500 bucks that says wack-o is 150 lbs over weight RIGHT NOW!
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:28 pm
By the way, OJ`s ex deserved it too. Free the juice.,..thats it!…thats what banner I will put up in my new row 1 seats,..FREE THE JUICE! word.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Here Wack-o, did you read this:
The Psychopathic Troll:
The psychopathic troll is motivated to participate in an internet forum by psychotic delusions or compulsions, or by a neurotic seeking of false self esteem. The postings of the psychotic troll are unlikely to make any recognizable sense at all. The Neurotic Troll either seeks to obtain false self esteem by manipulating the reactions of others, or by demonstrating his “power” to destroy what others enjoy. The neurotic troll is often manipulative enough to make it past the initial moderation.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:29 pm
# Florida Pete Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:23 pm
word.
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PETEY????
Hey, King of the Weed Garden?
how was your “vacation” after your melt down?
Yeah, LMFAO..that was classic…you blew a head gasket BIG TIME.
Petey: “I DON’T CARE IF I GET BANNED…YOU’RE A BIG MEANY. YOU MAKE THE VEINS IN MY NECK SWELL…I’M TELLING.’
Honestly…that was some funny stuff, Petey.
Well, congrats on getting a “vacation” courtesy of MOI’
My pleasure.
now..when you going to get back and mow my lawn?
Do a better job this time…like you were drunk last time you came by.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:29 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:29 pm
I still say russell isnt fat,..just a big dude,…his being a little overweight isnt, never was, why he sucks, so far.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:29 pm
What else could pop up and derail another season?
Jeez…and Gradkowski and Seymour aren’t resigned either.
Our team is going to suck 8 seasons in a row
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:30 pm
That pic of Russell shows he is 60 pounds over weight.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Rich, please bro, I cant do those posts with multiple posts, I try, lose track, get all upset,…then I pop a pill out of frustration,..then that messes up my pill intake, please,..dumb it down.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Let’s not forget his slow delivery motion on his arm.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:32 pm
They can suck 20 seasons in a row,..bfd,..I will be in row 1, drunk, stoned, with my banner, “FREE THE JUICE”. word.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:32 pm
# RaiderResurrection Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:30 pm
That pic of Russell shows he is 60 pounds over weight.
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Try again. That shows him being about 10 lbs over weight and for a guy 6′7″ 275, that’s piss in the ocean. He’ll lose that weight before the lst preseason game.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:32 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Richochet Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:17 pm
http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2008/05/16/sp_raiders_058_pc.jpg
Repost from Steve in last thread..a ‘must see’ for ANYONE who states JR isn’t fat.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Russell looks about 10lbs over weight in that photo. I’ve got 500 bucks that says wack-o is 150 lbs over weight RIGHT NOW!
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Yep, you’re an idiot.
10 lbs? That flab? All those rolls? means HE’S FLABBY EVERYWHERE, LITTLE GIRL..just like you.
Oh..I get it..you look in the mirror and think “Well, if I think THAT IS 10 LBS..then I must just be 30 lbs overweight”??
LOL…does that work for ya, fatass?
Geez…a coward…a spineless cross posting loser…and an idiot to boot?
Admit it, liar..you never saw Russell’s fatass up close.
You don’t even go to games..you were busted on that too.
You ever tell the truth?
Ever? Just curious..
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:33 pm
# RaiderResurrection Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Let’s not forget his slow delivery motion on his arm.
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Can’t disagree with this statement.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:34 pm
# RaiderResurrection Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:30 pm
That pic of Russell shows he is 60 pounds over weight.
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Easy 60 lbs. When you’re flabby like that in the middle, you’re flabby everywhere.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Wack-o you still here? Here is a review of your latest post:
The Psychopathic Troll:
The psychopathic troll is motivated to participate in an internet forum by psychotic delusions or compulsions, or by a neurotic seeking of false self esteem. The postings of the psychotic troll are unlikely to make any recognizable sense at all. The Neurotic Troll either seeks to obtain false self esteem by manipulating the reactions of others, or by demonstrating his “power” to destroy what others enjoy. The neurotic troll is often manipulative enough to make it past the initial moderation.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:34 pm
russell doesnt have a slow delivery. pretty quick actually.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:36 pm
I am starting to believe Hanson is a spy from the Patriots or another division rival and his sole mission is to cause even more chaos than already exists within Raider HQ’s.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:37 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:29 pm
I still say russell isnt fat,..just a big dude,…his being a little overweight isnt, never was, why he sucks, so far.
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No, Donovan McNabb is a big dude.
Ben is a big dude…NEITHER HAVE A FLABBY FLOPPPY GUY like the blob in that picture.
Come on Bobbo..you can say it…’I was wrong…obviously he IS badly out of shape’…
go ahead..you try.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Richochet Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:29 pm
# Florida Pete Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:23 pm
word.
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PETEY????
Hey, King of the Weed Garden?
how was your “vacation” after your melt down?
Yeah, LMFAO..that was classic…you blew a head gasket BIG TIME.
Petey: “I DON’T CARE IF I GET BANNED…YOU’RE A BIG MEANY. YOU MAKE THE VEINS IN MY NECK SWELL…I’M TELLING.’
Honestly…that was some funny stuff, Petey.
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i admit it… you exposed me…
i’m approaching geezer-hood…
and i have absolutely no tolerance…
i try… or at least i think i try…
but the truth is that i simply have no tolerance or sympathy for thick headed retards…
i want to be clear…
you’re the thick headed retard…
and a manic, obsessive-compulsive, stalking, speed typing, helmet-wearing, little freak… (i know i’m probably leaving something out, forgive me)…
i’ve said my piece… this is the last direct communication you will ever get from me…
now piss off…
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:37 pm
An Opportunity to fire Cable for cause?
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Richochet Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:37 pm
No, Donovan McNabb is a big dude.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Wrong as usual. McNabb is 6′2″ 235. That ain’t that big.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Wack-o you still here? Here is a review of your latest post:
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How cute.
Oakglen gets busted as a cross posting liar?
And he pastes a comment YOU MUST BE A TROLL.
Oakglen gets busted for being a full blown idiot?
he pastes the same comment “You’re so MEAN TO ME”
Oakglen gets laughed at by everyone on the board?
HE POSTS EVERYONE MUST BE A TROLL….
Funny thing is you don’t realize how stupid and meek you appear…which is what makes…you….YOU
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:42 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:37 pm
An Opportunity to fire Cable for cause?
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What’s the cause?
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Hey Wack-o I want to deliver this message to you from the internet:
The Psychopathic Troll:
The psychopathic troll is motivated to participate in an internet forum by psychotic delusions or compulsions, or by a neurotic seeking of false self esteem. The postings of the psychotic troll are unlikely to make any recognizable sense at all. The Neurotic Troll either seeks to obtain false self esteem by manipulating the reactions of others, or by demonstrating his “power” to destroy what others enjoy. The neurotic troll is often manipulative enough to make it past the initial moderation.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Attacking a colleague, what do you think?
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Norco,
I know Gorilla-rilla.
I have no idea how he stays in that suit at Aug/Sep games. It probably smells like the inside of a bums pocket.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:46 pm
# Florida Pete Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Richochet Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:29 pm
# Florida Pete Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:23 pm
word.
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PETEY????
Hey, King of the Weed Garden?
how was your “vacation” after your melt down?
Yeah, LMFAO..that was classic…you blew a head gasket BIG TIME.
Petey: “I DON’T CARE IF I GET BANNED…YOU’RE A BIG MEANY. YOU MAKE THE VEINS IN MY NECK SWELL…I’M TELLING.’
Honestly…that was some funny stuff, Petey.
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i admit it… you exposed me…
i’m approaching geezer-hood…
and i have absolutely no tolerance…
i try… or at least i think i try…
but the truth is that i simply have no tolerance or sympathy for thick headed retards…
i want to be clear…
you’re the thick headed retard…
and a manic, obsessive-compulsive, stalking, speed typing, helmet-wearing, little freak… (i know i’m probably leaving something out, forgive me)…
i’ve said my piece… this is the last direct communication you will ever get from me…
now piss off…
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ROFLMFAO…
I love it.
Petey’s all flustered.
Got him babbling like a slapped on little girl.
HEY??? As I recall, just PRIOR to your total meltdown, you pretty much stated THEN that ‘I’m done. You frazzle me. I can’t hang. I’m retreating. Leave me alone”
Some odd reason, that didn’t last, lol…not sure why.
Wait..this is the last “direct communication” I’ll get from you?
OH..I GET IT..you’re at the “I have NO BALLS” stage..
you know what I mean..it’s where your spineless ass will talk to OTHERS about me…but…don’t have the huevos to do anything but that? THAT’S IT??? lol…
In other words, you’re officially MY BEYOTCH.
“Petey: He scares me. HEY GUYS..RICHO IS A BIGGGG BRAT..I’M NOT TALKING TO HIM..JUST YOU GUYS”??
Sounds about 12…yet you state you’re “old’??
Yikes…getting to that “going over the edge” stage, huh, pops?
I’ll try and be fragile with ya, old timer…no..really..I will.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:47 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Attacking a colleague, what do you think?
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What has he been convicted of? In fact, authorities declined to prosecute him. Now they have gone to a court proceeding where the burden of proof is less. Right now this is heresay and conjecture. Kind of like we all know wack-o is a troll, but is that enough to get him kicked off the board?
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Norco,
You bringing some smoke out to Vegas?
BTW, it’s going to rain most all weekend, doubt the race gets off until Monday maybe.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:48 pm
The Psychopathic Troll:
The psychopathic troll is motivated to participate in an internet forum by psychotic delusions or compulsions, or by a neurotic seeking of false self esteem.
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Wack-o the best part of the description of you is the psychotic delusions or compulsions part.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:49 pm
We all know SeymourBush/Oakglenn is a troll too.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Thanks, Vegas. How do you know there’s a new post? Is it through RSS update notifications or what?
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Oakglenn
When I called YOU a psychophatic troll, last year, I guess those comments stuck, eh. You’ve been using it on others ever since.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:52 pm
randy hanson deserved it,..period.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:54 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:49 pm
We all know SeymourBush/Oakglenn is a troll too.
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That’s right KoolKell there is only one person on this site that thinks you’re a wack job. He just posts under five thousand different names. Suure. Whatever you want to believe. It’s sure beats the truth doesn’t it
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:54 pm
Bob, did you try taking your hydrocodone properly yet?
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:54 pm
old kell,…stop being such a biitch in here,..you really have nothing better to do?…a bigshot like you, in your 60`s, then cry in here every day about al davis`s wealth?…go confront him you old coward….you know where he is,..but no, you would rather be the blog puussy, cry in here instead.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:54 pm
properly?,…no.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Then you need to crush one up ASAP, Bob. As a show of solidarity, I’ll snort a Perc 15 right now so you won’t feel alone in the depravity. If you want to feel it fast, that’s the only way to go.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Steve,
Look at the bottom of the page.
If there is a thread to the right of “Mayock on Raiders”….there is a new thread.
But you can usually count on RRS and his “new post Barack worshippers” during the day as well.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:56 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Richochet Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:37 pm
No, Donovan McNabb is a big dude.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Wrong as usual. McNabb is 6′2″ 235. That ain’t that big.
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What are you? A glutton for me smacking your sorryass around?
First off, McNabb is 240..on a 6′2 frame..that’s big, FOOL.
Ben? 6-5″ and weighs ONE MORE POUND THAN MCNABB, FOOL.
Hasselbeck? 6-5..weighs 225
Rogers? weighs 220
Rivers? 228
V. Young..at 6′5″ weighs 233..
McNabb out weighs 95% of the NFL qb’s, you freaking MORON.
AND HE’S NOT FAT…
Russell weighs 260..or that’s what his fatass is listed as..more like 280…EASY. Now…THAT’S FAT…dumbass.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:56 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Oakglenn
When I called YOU a psychophatic troll, last year, I guess those comments stuck, eh. You’ve been using it on others ever since.
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You can call me whatever names you want. Since I have little if any respect for you, it makes no difference. But note this line:
The psychopathic troll is motivated to participate in an internet forum by psychotic delusions or compulsions, or by a neurotic seeking of false self esteem.
Posting the same thing over and over and over again is CLASSIC compulsive behaviour. Sucks to be you.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Ahh, thanks again, Vegas. It sucks being new and not knowing these simple things.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:58 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:54 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:49 pm
We all know SeymourBush/Oakglenn is a troll too.
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That’s right KoolKell there is only one person on this site that thinks you’re a wack job. He just posts under five thousand different names. Suure. Whatever you want to believe. It’s sure beats the truth doesn’t it
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Oh stop, Oakglen…
What? You think EVERYONE is a fool?
Kell saw you right off.
I saw you right off.
As did Brown…as did MR…as did everyone.
Quit playing the ‘I’m stupid..I don’t know what you’re talking about” whine.
yeah..you are stupid..but acting it to weasel out of manning up makes you a bigger wimp.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:59 pm
old fool kell,…you Im sure know where harbor bay parkway is ya?…seeing as you have gotten nowhere with your daily crybaby fest about al davis in here,…go to HQ,..tell him how you feel,…and if they hand you a mop and ask to join the team,..you may as well,…they may even let you wax al`s limo…good luck you old crybaby.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Man you guys would be in hog heaven at my place, my wife (being a nurse) has all kinds of crazy scripts in the house.
I hate that shyt though. Makes me nauseus, figity, and my hands itch constantly.
Raided the cabinet once, and that was the end of that.
I stick to the sticky!!!!
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:00 pm
You have to have Mr. O’Shea, a.k.a. Jerry, on alert Steve….
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:01 pm
bush,..old fool kell post the same stats every day because hes stupid, has no original thought,..all he has is,..is,..well nothing,..back his ugly aasss in a corner, and out will come his race card,..that old fool is beyond predictable.,..and beyond stupid.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Repost from my comments in last thread regarding the logical fallacies presented by Kell and Priest in their “racist” argument regarding anyone calling JR fat, dumb, and lazy:
@ Kell:
I have a bone to pick with you and Priest. You two say that when people call JR fat, lazy, and dumb that it smacks of racism. Well, let me drop some knowledge on you here…
The only racist connotations for being called dumb are for POLISH people. JaMarcus isn’t Polish… Gradkowski and Janikowski are. You don’t hear any of us talking about them being dumb, do you? People call Russell dumb because despite his actual intelligence, he does dumb things: he makes dumb decisions on the field, he doesn’t learn the playbook, and he skips meetings.
The only racist connotations for being called lazy are for Mexicans or other hispanics. JaMarcus isn’t hispanic. People call JaMarcus lazy because he doesn’t run in practice (I’ve seen it at the Napa Mariott myself), he moves like a turtle with three broken legs, and he is fat (if you want visual evidence, check out the Away games from last year… you can’t tell in the black Home jerseys, but in a white jersey, you can see his big stomach protruding. How many elite quarterbacks are there with a GUT?) When talking about his weight being from good ole home cooking and such, that isn’t a racial shot… it’s because he’s from the SOUTH (he went to LSU, ya know). I’m a southerner, too, born and bred… trust me, all the “black food” that is mentioned that you think is racist… that’s the stuff I eat every day… and it will all make you fat as hell (like JaMarcus) if you get lazy and don’t work it off.
The only people placing these insults in a racial context are people who want to ignore JR’s faults and make excuses for the accurate things others say. You want to deflect the truth and try to attack the source rather than deal with what was said. In truth, it shows that you either WANT to see racism everywhere you look or that you are racist yourself (in the belief that anyone who criticizes a black man is doing it ONLY because of race). I’m of almost total Irish heritage. My two best friends for the past 12 years and counting are a black Muslim and a Persian. That having been said, JaMarcus is fat, lazy, dumb (in reference to football), and a waste of potential. He could turn it around, but until he proves otherwise, those terms all apply. There is no racial correlation.
The lazy part is also tied to him skipping meetings/team activies and his general appearance of apathy. He MIGHT care a lot when he screws up or when the team makes mistakes, but he doesn’t show it. For all appearances, he just doesn’t care and doesn’t want to put forth the effort to lead or even be bothered with it. Granted, a good player should have a short memory, but that’s vastly different from not even noticing at all. Having a short memory means that you learn from the mistake and put it behind you, not that you ignore it like nothing happened, then go do it again the next series. The way he handles himself is purely emotionless and robotic.
Frankly, he seems too lazy to even care. That may not be the case inside him, but that’s what he SHOWS… and that affects his teammates as well. You don’t lead by shrugging and then sitting on the sidelines wearing a beanie and a blank stare. At LEAST talk with your offensive teammates after a bad series, fumble, or interception so that you can keep spirits up, eliminate the mistakes, or just try to find a groove. A lot of insults come from THAT.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:02 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:56 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Oakglenn
When I called YOU a psychophatic troll, last year, I guess those comments stuck, eh. You’ve been using it on others ever since.
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You can call me whatever names you want. Since I have little if any respect for you, it makes no difference. But note this line:
The psychopathic troll is motivated to participate in an internet forum by psychotic delusions or compulsions, or by a neurotic seeking of false self esteem.
Posting the same thing over and over and over again is CLASSIC compulsive behaviour. Sucks to be you.
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Kell? Sorry…while you did set him up, I apologize for jumping in on this smack down of the fool.
Uh….Oakglen??? kell pointed out he called OAKGLEN A PSYCHOPATHIC TROLL, last year.
You then reply “You can call me what you want”?? LMFAO
gosh, Gomer..I thought you WEREN’T Oakglen? so much for that.
and didn’t you just paste the same stupid “Internet troll” comment, to me, a dozen times?
And then you point out how “Posting the same thing over and over and over again is CLASSIC compulsive behaviour. Sucks to be you.”
Again, LMFAO…you can’t help but set yourself up, can you?
Classic
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Vegas, I would love to raid your medicine cabinet sometime. To tide me over until that day, I’ll fax over a list of a few medicines that I’d like to request be prescribed and filled.
There’s nothing like a tall glass of Jameson to drink and some hydrocodone/oxycodone in your sinuses.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:07 pm
I apologize for the length of post 66. I hope I didn’t rant, but I had a lot to say in refuting the way they pull out the ad hominem attacks and strawmen whenever anyone criticizes JR.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:08 pm
Like that huh?
If I put anything up my nose, it is going to be some topgrade yayo. Otherwise, forget it, not worth dying.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:09 pm
Dang steve, I forgot about that way,..I just took a couple authentic yellow Norcos,..if I would have remembered I would have made lines out of them,..next time.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:10 pm
I quit doing coke back when I was 20 after a monthlong binge ended with two consecutive nosebleeds that almost refused to stop. The buzz with the pills is different, yet I think better, especially if it’s a perc 60 or oxy 40 (no 80s, thank you) going up your nose. You still get a very similar high, but not the “I have to do everything on my to-do list, then go kick someone’s ass feeling.”
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:10 pm
LMAO at the treatment Al Davis gave Hanson.
It was Milton on officespace. Move him to the mail room and fix the glich.
Someone had to bring him his food?? LMAO!! Did he have permission to use the fridge and microwave?
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:11 pm
The Ad Hominem’s are always included in the Russell criticisms. That seems to be the point that you’re blinded by. Guilt, perhaps?
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:13 pm
Oh quit your whining you old man.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:14 pm
Wack-o go look up Josh Freeman, David Garrard, Vince Young, Kerry Collins, Jamarcus, Culpepper. THOSE are big guys. Wrong as usual.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:15 pm
hey old man, have you strolled into Raiders HQ yet to tell mr davis about those 7 year stats yet?…or do feel its better to cry in a blog every day instead?…thought so…you old coward.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:16 pm
Kell, do you understand what ad hominem attacks are? Criticizing Russell’s ability isn’t an ad hominem attack. YOU calling someone a racist for criticizing him or calling him fat IS an ad hominem attack. You attack the person making the statement instead of refuting the statement itself.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:19 pm
steve,..old kell is a troll, dont waste your time.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:19 pm
# Richochet Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:02 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:56 pm
You can call me whatever names you want. Since I have little if any respect for you, it makes no difference. But note this line:
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Kell? Sorry…while you did set him up, I apologize for jumping in on this smack down of the fool.
gosh, Gomer..I thought you WEREN’T Oakglen? so much for that.
# Seymour Bush Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:56 pm
You can call me whatever names you want.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! See dummass, KoolKell posts the same thing over and over and over and over because he is psychotic. I posted the same thing over because you are stupid. There’s a difference. you have to tell you things over and over and over, so you get it. Problem is, you never do!
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:20 pm
I’ll give you an example… and I’ll use a positive stereotype to do it:
1. I say that DHB is fast.
2. You say “You only say that because he’s black. You’re a racist.”
Nowhere in your reply did you counter the fact that DHB is fast. You imply an argument by attacking me, but never GIVE an argument. Instead, you attack the person who said it. Change 1 to “I say that JR is lazy.” Just as there is no racism in calling DHB fast, just as there is no racism in calling JR lazy. You just have no valid counter to “JR is lazy,” so you call me a racist to “win” the argument.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:22 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:19 pm
steve,..old kell is a troll, dont waste your time.
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He is. Old Kell just comes here to post the same stuff ad nauseum to get a rise out of others. Just like wack-o. Notice how neither of them can have any type of interaction. They both claim to be married but you know their lives are miserable messes. hence why their spouses pawn them off on us. Oh well, off to the Warrior game. But according to Wack-o there is NO WAY I will be able to make the game. Here wack-o READ THIS:
The Psychopathic Troll:
The psychopathic troll is motivated to participate in an internet forum by psychotic delusions or compulsions. note the part about psychotic delusions.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:24 pm
old kell the troll has been a troll for years,…I think hes the oldest troll on the internet too. lol
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:24 pm
BTW, courtside seats with valet! I’ll be the one sitting between Jamarcus and Ronnie Lott. Niiiice.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:29 pm
SteveAlford21 Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:16 pm
Kell, do you understand what ad hominem attacks are? Criticizing Russell’s ability isn’t an ad hominem attack. YOU calling someone a racist for criticizing him or calling him fat IS an ad hominem attack. You attack the person making the statement instead of refuting the statement itself.
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Listen:
I SAID THER WERE AD HOMIMEM ATTACKS CONTAINED IN A LOT OF THE CRITICISMS OF JAMARCUS RUSSELL OVER THE YEARS, HERE! ok?
If that’s not good enough for you, oh well.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Old kell,..you are an old troll,…stop embarrassing yourself. you old coward.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:32 pm
go to mapquest, they will show you step by step directions to raiders hq,…then you can take your cause to the man himself,…you two old fools might even hot it off,…but dont tell him you have been obsessing over his wealth in a blog for years,..that comes off as weird. good luck old troll!!!
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:36 pm
How are ad hominem attacks contained in criticisms of JR? If they’re criticizing JR, why would you attack a defender of JR instead? Ad hominem means you attack the person against whom you are arguing instead of arguing a point. Attacking JR isn’t ad hominem unless you’re arguing WITH JR. JR has to be present for that.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:39 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
Posting the same thing over and over and over again is CLASSIC compulsive behaviour. Sucks to be you.
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Richochet Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:02 pm:
and didn’t you just paste the same stupid “Internet troll” comment, to me, a dozen times?
And then you point out how “Posting the same thing over and over and over again is CLASSIC compulsive behaviour. Sucks to be you.”
Again, LMFAO…you can’t help but set yourself up, can you?
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! See dummass, KoolKell posts the same thing over and over and over and over because he is psychotic. I posted the same thing over because you are stupid. There’s a difference. you have to tell you things over and over and over, so you get it. Problem is, you never do!
Richochet: A reply ONLY a psychotic would post. “EVERYONE ELSE WHO DOES IT IS A PSYCHOTIC COMPULSIVE, BUT NOT ME WHEN I DO IT”.
You’re textbook psycho, fool.
Look at you…you sign on using dozens of handles…you call others trolls, as you’re trolling with all your handles..you call others psychotic for doing EXACTLY what you do,…and they you state “but THEY ARE”, while you aren’t??
You’re a odd…strange…little man, aren’t you, Oakglen?
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:40 pm
SteveAlford21,
Your well thought out, reasonable ideas and facts, will fall largely on deaf ears with these guys.
I was called a racist by Priest for the same reasons.
Post whatever you want, but your not going to change their minds.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:41 pm
SteveAlfrod
Like I said, oh well. If you want to play bullshyt disingenuous games, go ahead.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Mr. O’Shea, since you were involved in the argument that I was addressing, would you please take a couple of minutes and read post 66 and then tell me what you think?
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Hey Oakglenn, you’re such a bad losing psycho. lol.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:45 pm
when you see old troll kells pic, dont trip, its not aunt esther from sanford and son…just looks like her.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:48 pm
SeymourBush/Oakglenn
That’s what I’m talking about. It’s only you trolls. Oakglenn, everybody is NOT:
Beecham
Doofus Boob
Einsteen
Luci 666
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:49 pm
post the pics.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:50 pm
yes I have seen the “wife”,..looks like some ugly old dude crankster,..lol…hey if its good enough lifestyle for our President, its fine with old troll kell.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:51 pm
old troll kell,..you are the only troll in this blog,..and the only old man crybaby too.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:52 pm
old troll kell looks like the perfect person to be poster child for welfare, food stamps,..section 8. and yet, all hes acomplished is to be an old man troll in a blog. damn.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:53 pm
Nah, I own you.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:53 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:24 pm
BTW, courtside seats with valet! I’ll be the one sitting between Jamarcus and Ronnie Lott. Niiiice.
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lol…liar.
You’re in the nose bleeds.
All your boyfriend could afford.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:53 pm
Yes….the night crew in all it’s glory
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:53 pm
all you own old troll kell is the title as blog biitch, in here,…word.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:55 pm
hey old troll kell,..when you were a young man, waaaaay back when,..did you aspire to be an old troll in a blog?…was that your goal?…lol
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:56 pm
# Einstein Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Hey Rich O Chet, maybe I AM Kool Kell. If I am a cotton ball, then you are a cotton tampon, beeotch.
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Maybe, considering this juvenile reply, and you pasting the same info over and over, which is what children do, you’re closer to pube watch than I earlier believed.
Seriously..how old are you?
“cotton tampon’???
That’s grade school comments…early..early teen.
Hey, enjoy your stupid years while you can.
for some it’s over soon…for others it’s never over.
I suspect you’re of the latter.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:57 pm
Hey Rich O Chet, Suck it beeotch. I own you fool. pwnd.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Yeah Einsteen
The Missus and I took a balloon trip over the Serengeti at dawn that trip.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:58 pm
This is the big one Elizabeth, I’m comin home!!
Classic.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:58 pm
einstein,..old troll kell did a nice thing, he took that old tweeker dude off the streets, married it,…it worked out for them,..all good.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:59 pm
old kell,…you should have popped that balloon,…got it over with.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:59 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:58 pm
einstein,..old troll kell did a nice thing, he took that old tweeker dude off the streets, married it,…it worked out for them,..all good.
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LMFAO. DUde, now that was funny.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:00 pm
It looks like Donnie Wahlberg in The Sith Sense.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Sixth
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:01 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Yeah Einsteen
The Missus and I took a balloon trip over the Serengeti at dawn that trip.
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BS Michael Kelly. Anybody can use photoshop. You should have used it to at least make your boyfriend look like a chick, not the other way around.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:01 pm
# Sweep The Leg. Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:00 pm
It looks like Donnie Wahlberg in The Sith Sense.
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LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
it does for sure….
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:03 pm
Old troll kell,..time for that glass of warm milk, go to bed, oh and in bed, tell Bill that all the fellas in the blog thinks hes hot.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Einsteen
So, taking a balloon ride over the Serengeti would really be impressive eh? Impossible in your world, no?
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:06 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Einsteen
So, taking a balloon ride over the Serengeti would really be impressive eh? Impossible in your world, no?
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Oh Michael Kelly, you live in such a delusional dream world you even make up scenarios of balloon rides over the Serengeti. You old goat, your mind is betraying you. Very sad.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Einsteen, I see. lmao.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:08 pm
And here we go again, more BS being spread as fact. Facts are that you do not know what went down in the meeting where Hanson broke his jaw.
The DA found Hansons story of what happened to be ever changing. The DA also found that what Hanson said went down did not jive with the people that were there to see what really happened.
Unlike what one of the Bay Area’s female reporters claimed the witnesses had said. As I recall her report claimed that the witnesses account of what happened had backed Hansons story and she went on to write that the DA had a ton of evidence against Cable.
All turned out to be BS as were the bulk of all the “insider reports” being dished out by you and the other second tier reporters working the Bay Area.
All I know is that if I went off on a fellow employee the way they say Hanson did at the meeting with his Boss, I would have been fired on the spot. It was a shock that the Raiders would even take him back in any form.
If I was Cable and the Raiders I would file a counter suit for what amounted nothing more than a shot at extortion that went bad. This kid will be eat alive along with his Lawyers that work out of the local ER as offices.
Hey, what ever happened to the NFL coming down on Cable lol, nothing is went went down. All your reports ended up to equal the same, a bunch of nothing.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:10 pm
# SteveAlford21 Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Mr. O’Shea, since you were involved in the argument that I was addressing, would you please take a couple of minutes and read post 66 and then tell me what you think?
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I’ll assume you were talking to me, and reply.
If you WEREN’T talking to me..I’ll still reply
Agree completely.
Now, honestly can say I’ve only seen a couple of KK’s comments regarding race, that alluded to something else.
Wasn’t sure what he was referring to so I didn’t call him on it…
BUT have seen Priest routinely run the race card as a “last resort” comment.
It’s usually when he’s losing an argument. When he starts getting flustered, and feeling out of “ammo” as it were, so he reverts to the weak racist crap, believing it negates everyone else’s points.
Kind of like Seymour getting slapped down, where all he can reply with is “you’re a troll”..which is him waving HIS white flag…with Priest, the race crap is his retreat call.
It’s “diversion” replies, as you well know.
Instead of the topic being JR’s fatass, it’s now reverted to defending black people for having a “fatass”..as if they have a lock on it..or, as you stated “lazy” etc..where that connectation is directed at other races..effectively pointing the discussion in another direction..or at least that is their hope.
What’s sad is I suspect priest probably blames a lot of things because of race..including his lot.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Old man,..go to bed, this isnt going well for you,…seriously,…youre too old to be doing this to yourself.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:12 pm
LOL Bob.
Michael Kelly heat up some warm Milk of Magnesia turn on the heating blanket, take your meds and call it a night “Kool Kell”…
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Doofus Boob,
Are you the feller I used to call Tard Boy?
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:15 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Doofus Boob,
Are you the feller I used to call Tard Boy?
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You are losing you mind you old goat. NO, you never referred to Norco Bob as tard boy, that is what you call your man wife. Jeez Michael Kelly, you are really losing it. Go see the Dr. and get on some new meds.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:15 pm
@ Richochet:
Yes, that was directed at you. For reasons of my goofy pun-loving nature, I have an uncontrollable urge to refer to you as “Mr. O’Shea” as a pun on Rick O’Shea being your handle. I could take a handful of Kell and Priest posts and teach an entire semester’s worth of classes about logical fallacies for debate. It’s ridiculous.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Einsteen
You’re Tard Boy & Doofus Boob?
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:17 pm
um old troll kell,…go to bed, Bill cant wait all night,…tell it to take its teeth out, gonna be a big night!
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:17 pm
Rich O Chet = B!tch O Chit!!
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:18 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Einsteen
You’re Tard Boy & Doofus Boob?
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NO Michael Kelly aka Kool Kell. Tard boy is what you call your man wife, and Doofus Boob is what you call its nipple. Come on, do I really need to call your orderly?
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Einsteen
If you know so much about me, you must know I don’t live in a rest home, no?
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:21 pm
old troll,..does bill your wife know you posted his pic in a blog?
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:28 pm
your wife Bill might not like it that you keep posting personal info about you two on a blog,..in case you didnt know,…thats not a good idea,..but you old folks dont know any better.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:29 pm
# snnyjcbs Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:08 pm
And here we go again, more BS being spread as fact. Facts are that you do not know what went down in the meeting where Hanson broke his jaw.
The DA found Hansons story of what happened to be ever changing. The DA also found that what Hanson said went down did not jive with the people that were there to see what really happened.
Unlike what one of the Bay Area’s female reporters claimed the witnesses had said. As I recall her report claimed that the witnesses account of what happened had backed Hansons story and she went on to write that the DA had a ton of evidence against Cable.
All turned out to be BS as were the bulk of all the “insider reports” being dished out by you and the other second tier reporters working the Bay Area.
All I know is that if I went off on a fellow employee the way they say Hanson did at the meeting with his Boss, I would have been fired on the spot. It was a shock that the Raiders would even take him back in any form.
If I was Cable and the Raiders I would file a counter suit for what amounted nothing more than a shot at extortion that went bad. This kid will be eat alive along with his Lawyers that work out of the local ER as offices.
Hey, what ever happened to the NFL coming down on Cable lol, nothing is went went down. All your reports ended up to equal the same, a bunch of nothing.———-
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Civil suit is NOT a criminal suit.
Yeah, the DA, to many people’s surprise, didn’t press charges. The “witnesses” WORKED under the guy that would have been charged..those “witnesses” declined to state what they saw. In that, proving it beyond a shadow of a doubt, to 12 jurors, is almost impossible..in that it’s one person’s word against another.
BUT.. a civil suit? Different rules.
Ask OJ.
He DIDN’T GET CONVICTED, but in the civil suit?
GUILTY AS HELL, PAY 30 MILLION.
And they’re still collecting.
(interesting that in his desire to hide his assets, that ended up in others hands, is what prompted OJ to rob back his supposed possessions, which got him his current stint in jail. Irony at it’s best)
Oh..and you’re right..if you spoke up like that, you would be fired.
Not beaten up…fired.
Beaten up? LAWSUIT, lol…big time.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Doofus
You would REALLY like to hurt my feelings wouldn’t you?
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:30 pm
A little draft talk to step away from the madness:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/02/23/combine.45/index.html?eref=sihp
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Einstein?
Look at the last half dozen or so of your posts…you scream 12 years old.
that’s not smack..that’s a fact.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:31 pm
Listen Pootbutt Doofus
Realtors post pictures of themselves in blogs and online all the time.
Now, little pootbutt. You know where to find me, ok?
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:32 pm
oh old troll, you old crybaby troll,…we are just here to help the elderly.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:33 pm
lol,..oh no,..that is scaaaarrryyyyyy old troll,…but that reminds me,..you know where to find al davis right? thats what I thought. lol
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:34 pm
I’m not a realtor and I post pictures of myself on blogs and social network sites, too! I am, however, a narcissist… so that’s my excuse.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:34 pm
and no old kell, nobody goes to blogs and posts personal info, not these kinds of blogs you old idiot…youre easily the stupidest person in this blog old man.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:34 pm
we are fully aware of why old kell posts personal info here.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:35 pm
old kell got into the internet late in life,..hes a little naive about the internet…clearly.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Vegas
Tip off couple minutes away
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:36 pm
# vegas raider Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:30 pm
A little draft talk to step away from the madness:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/02/23/combine.45/index.html?eref=sihp
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Draft talk?
Shirley….you jest
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:39 pm
I do jest….and don’t call me Shirley!!!
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:40 pm
While I enjoy smacking back and forth with Kell…he’s a realtor.
EVERY REALTOR does everything you can to get your name out there, your card out there, your contact info out there..that’s the name of the game…advertise your wares..which is yourself, and your service.
Bobbo and Einstupid? lol…you do KNOW you’re helping…not hurting…right?
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Dogg,
Go get ‘em, I will have to wait until Thursday to watch them on TNT.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:42 pm
I read that early this morning, Vegas. Frankly, I HATE draft talk. Most of the time, the prognosticators have very little clue what they’re talking about. When someone has to grade hundreds, maybe thousands of players, they can’t watch every game that Joe McHalfback played. Instead, they have to go by a highlight or lowlight reel. That isn’t a very good gauge because it doesn’t tell you their average output for every down. In order to accurately rate ALL the prospects, it would take a team of hundreds… yet guys like Mayock want to act like they know the skinny on EVERYONE.
Then, you have guys like us discussing who we want drafted and why. It’s a fun way to pass the time, but frankly is an exercise in futility. We get excited about a guy or vehemently opposed to one, never fully knowing how good or bad he will be, then usually get disappointed at best or seeing-red pissed off at worst on draft day. To be honest, I look at draft talk like masturbation without the payoff.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:43 pm
lol,..ya right rich.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Vegas
Oh man I thought you got all of those games. You can probably find it online.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:43 pm
No potential clients in this or any other blog,..serial killrs maybe,..people looking to buy property?…lmao.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:44 pm
The draft gives us something FOOTBALL related to talk about.
True, it is tons of hot air, and some guys go way overboard.
But would you rather read above posts from the 3 stooges?
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:44 pm
pootbutt????
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:45 pm
theres been a couple folks in here that have asked me for my facebook info, twitter info,..lol,..dont think so. lol
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:47 pm
I have given my season ticket location more then once,..but home info?…work info?…on this blog???????????????? lol
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:47 pm
Has anyone ever called you KoolKell?
Just curious, I certainly wouldn’t be suprised.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:47 pm
Bob
Actually a few years ago, knowing that KoolKell was a realtor was very helpful. He gave me some very sound real estate advice that proved to be very helpful.
It may not have helped him directly at the time, but by helping me, even in a small way, he helped himself indirectly. Now I know he is a good resource and maybe, in the future, I would be more inclined to do business with him.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Bob,
Thursday at 4, Rio Sports Book. Be their or be a KoolKell.
(And bring some green please)
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Even discussing which needs we HAVE TO fill gets to be a letdown when we tie it to the draft. Having said that, I say that our first FOUR picks should be OT, DT, G (double up on one of those, but take the best available of those three positions, whichever is available, with each pick). We try like hell to get Dansby or another good veteran MLB, because a rookie MLB, no matter how much potential he has, won’t be able to play at a high level behind Kelly and Warren (or two rookie DT’s… or a combination of those options). We need a vet to play MLB in our 4-3… and the top ILB prospects are just that INSIDE LINEBACKERS for a 3-4… they aren’t true MLBs who can take the entire second level middle to themselves at the NFL level of play (in MY opinion).
That argument, however, is completely moot because Al will use those picks for a nickel corner who returns punts, an undersized fullback with an amazing 40 time, another free safety, and a player who only returns kickoffs and has no other positional specialty (despite Miller being healthy now).
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Vegas
I got the Nik while in the Navy in Japan. A reference to the way I operated.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:49 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:43 pm
No potential clients in this or any other blog,..serial killrs maybe,..people looking to buy property?…lmao.
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On the contrary..it’s not who’s POSTING on the blogs…it’s the thousands and thousands who read that don’t post.
And Einstupid spamming the info, over and over? Insisting any “readers” check out the web site?
Advertising….name of the game.
Again, had someone posted that same info? of themself? Get tons of flak..but someone else posting it? NUMEROUS TIMES?
LOL…I think Kell owes Einstupid a Baskin Robbins ice cream cone coupon…at least
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Bob, why such trepidation at the thought of Kell writing on your facebook wall?
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:50 pm
Dogg,..people like you arent the problem,..however, giving out personal info on a blog is beyond stupid,…and that old fool posts pics of family in here too?…hes either really naive, or just plain stupid,..Im guessing stupid.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:51 pm
Norco Bob Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:34 pm
and no old kell, nobody goes to blogs and posts personal info, not these kinds of blogs you old idiot…youre easily the stupidest person in this blog old man.
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Doofus, wtf do you know about anything, seriously?
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:51 pm
Vegas, we leave at noon thursday,..so however long it takes to get to vegas from Sac,…in an RV.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:51 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:47 pm
Bob
Actually a few years ago, knowing that KoolKell was a realtor was very helpful. He gave me some very sound real estate advice that proved to be very helpful.
It may not have helped him directly at the time, but by helping me, even in a small way, he helped himself indirectly. Now I know he is a good resource and maybe, in the future, I would be more inclined to do business with him.
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See?
References…referrals…canvasing…it’s all good if you’re in the business.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:51 pm
That argument, however, is completely moot because Al will use those picks for a nickel corner who returns punts
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Know we are talking!!!!!
Javier Arenas in the 2nd, or maybe 3rd.
You may laugh, but this team has tons of holes, and two of those are a nickle corner and a kick returner.
Top priority, no, but a hole, absolutely. Arenas can fill both spots, with one roster spot.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:52 pm
Seriously old troll?…look I think youre an idiot,..me telling you how stupid it is to post personal info on a blog full of weirdos is not a great idea,..free advice old man.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:52 pm
Now not *Know
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:53 pm
I have zero interest in visitting an old fool like you,..but theres alot of weirdos in here,…and they know where to find you,..good luck.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:53 pm
Kell, do you honestly think that the thousands of guys who read the articles in the blog but DON’T post are actually reading the posts down here? I guarantee that no one with the money for Bay Area property has the time to waste reading all these comments unless they’re interested enough in the comments to be a poster themselves.
As an ancillary point, anyone who DID read your contact info posted here would have to be insane to use a realtor who sits on this blog for hours at a time making inane chatter and throwing schoolyard insults at people he has never met IRL. Look at your archived comments from the past week (that’s all that I’ve been here posting). Look at it objectively (pretend that you don’t know you). Would you hire THAT GUY to be your realtor?
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Vegas
The Warrior’s clearly play better when you are watching. They are looking flat so far.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:54 pm
I like that Vegas
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Holy Shyt! This blog is in rare form tonight. What a freakshow. Is anybody here to talk football? Or is this just a full scale, steel cage,tag team,deathmatch, battle royale to the finish? And fighting out of the red corner…
Seriously, Why don’t Cable and the Raiders just pay off Hanson and his lawyers, so they’ll go away?Jeezuz.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Vegas… the funny thing is that Arenas is exactly the player to whom I was referring when I said that.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Ya right,..canvassing,..first of all who would do business with an old fool like old kell knowing how he comes in this blog for hours every day obsessing over al davis?…old kell seems to be some kind of mental case old man consumed with jealousy of al davis….ya, I will hire him to find me a house alright. lol
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:56 pm
while legit realtors are busy with clients, that old fool is in here for hours, and at night for hours when hes drunk,..screaming about al davis.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Bob, I am neither naive nor stupid… maybe a little goofy, but not stupid. However, I’ll post my myspace here to show you that there’s nothing to fear. The only personal info there is the city in which I live… but since I moved back here from Pacifica, I don’t expect any of you to hunt me down. At worst, you’ll see pics of me when I got fat living in Phoenix (stayed indoors all summer… too damned hot there), but I’ve lost it all now.
http://www.myspace.com/stevealford
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Well let’s push it to 5:30, give you some time to get in , check in and get settled.
Bet on some hoops and take some shots. You better step up your game besides $20 Super Bowl bets, lol
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:57 pm
# buckeyeraider Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Holy Shyt! This blog is in rare form tonight. What a freakshow. Is anybody here to talk football? Or is this just a full scale, steel cage,tag team,deathmatch, battle royale to the finish? And fighting out of the red corner…
RICHOCHET: I think you’re on to something. We could sell popcorn..t-shirts..the whole shebang.
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Seriously, Why don’t Cable and the Raiders just pay off Hanson and his lawyers, so they’ll go away?Jeezuz.
RICHOCHET: That’s they’re exact point…PAY US…LOTS AND LOTS OF MONEY..and we’ll go away.
Who didn’t see this coming?
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Good for you steve,..but I also dont click on links here,..and dont use myspace…you may want to try craigslist for some attention bud.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Bb
it takes 7 to 8 hours to drive to Vegas from Sac. btw have you come across the Cheese yet?
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:02 pm
But I REALLY want to know exactly how obsessed Kell will get, Bob. Your reluctance to give personal info piqued my curiousity, so now I have to find out if I will get any blog stalkers.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:03 pm
Stopping in Joshua Tree for a couple hours Im told,…so likely not there til late.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:03 pm
Maybe I’ve just had one perc too many, though… that could have been a really dumb idea. Oh well, too late now. I doubt any real harm could come from it, anyway.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:04 pm
I give out personal info all the time,..just not in blogs.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Speaking of which: crush one, Bob. If you’ve already eaten a couple a few hours ago, that will boost you right up through the ceiling (in a good way).
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:04 pm
I guess I watch too many Dateline shows,..48 hour Mystery shows,..its not a great idea to blindly post personal info.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:05 pm
Word,..will do that in a few minutes,…I got a whole mess of yellow Norcos today,..buck each,..craigslist.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Rich 0 Chet err B!tch O Chit is in rare meltdown form tonight.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Bob
You will end up having a mystical experience in the desert and decide to stay in Joshua Tree until dawn and then hit the road. Then you will catch a killer show at the House of Blues in the Mandalay Bay followed up with drinks and some Cheese with Vegas.
Doggstradamus has spoken…
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Ya Iv been to Joshua Tree a few times,..I know what you mean.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Damn, I miss craigslist… that’s a fantastically great deal. Sadly, I’m an hour away from Bristol (closest major city), so there’s no craigslist for my area. I’m out in the country, WAY up in the mountains… tobacco-growing area. More toobacco that comes from the United States is grown in my home county than any other.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:08 pm
My bud has a spot in the infield in Vegas, but we will be at the Rio.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Bristol?…espn Bristol?
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:09 pm
That’s Bristol, Connecticut. I’m talking about Bristol, Virginia.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:10 pm
As in Bristol Motor Speedway… NASCAR stuff. I may be part-redneck, but you can keep that. I have better things to do than watch cars drive in a circle for seven hours.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Im not goin for the race,…I barely follow Nascar.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:11 pm
I prefer Formula 1.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Yeah, you leaving at noon, I’m going have to figure something out.
Vegas Raider = Married and not a late nighter
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:12 pm
To each their own. I’m not mocking NASCAR or its fans… or criticizing it; I’m merely pointing out that it seems like a waste of time to me.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:13 pm
SteveAlford, Doofus Boob, Oakglenn
I’m very proud of my life. I’ve done things that you will never do. Beeeeen all over the world. Own property in Europe. When I was the age of you and Doofus Boob, I was sailing the 7 seas.
At this point in my life, I can pretty much do what I want to.
I’ve got nothing to hide from anybody.
BUT, while you envious mfkrs dwell in my website getting angry, you could be writing your own life.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Vegas, why would you want to use our second round pick on a secondary need (pun intended), when our primary concerns should be filling BOTH lines with high-round talent?
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:14 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:04 pm
I guess I watch too many Dateline shows,..48 hour Mystery shows,..its not a great idea to blindly post personal info.
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LOL. No it’s not a great idea at all, but it’s Michael Kelly aka “Kool Kell” we are talking about here. So logic and commonsense are non existent.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Actually Alford
You may have a point. I’m not really looking for clients. I posted it to rub it in.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:15 pm
# SteveAlford21 Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:12 pm
To each their own. I’m not mocking NASCAR or its fans… or criticizing it; I’m merely pointing out that it seems like a waste of time to me.
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The best part about NASCAR is when they finally make the right turn. Into the wall…
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Yes old troll kell,..you want us all to be so proud of you,..and we are,..feel better now old man?…now go to bed you old dork. and give bill a kiss for me.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Kell, I never once tried to diminish your life or accomplishments, whatever they may be. I just question the validity of the thought that someone in the market would read about you HERE and say to themselves, “Hey, he seems like a great choice in realtor!”
You might be great at what you do and a really awesome person in regular life, but judging you solely by your posts, I wouldn’t hire you to find me a DOGHOUSE, much less Bay Area property.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:16 pm
all you rubbed in old man was you are old, ugly, stupid, and married some old crankster dude you met at the bus station. lol
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:17 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:04 pm
I guess I watch too many Dateline shows,..48 hour Mystery shows,..its not a great idea to blindly post personal info.
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That’s old school thinking…back when the net was new..before the myspace..facebook, etc…where everyone posts dozens of pics..where they work, go to school, party..etc.
Schools post yearbooks online, clubs post member info..etc.
Not a big deal anymore.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Kell, I meant no offense there… I’m just saying that the content of your posts often doesn’t come across as very professional and the way you get into altercations here aren’t very conducive to the realtor/client relationship or building rapport. I wasn’t attacking you as a person, just the way your online persona comes off and its correlation to business.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:18 pm
old kell is leading a double life, I doubt people in his office are aware he lives in a blog for hours screaming about al davis,..or gets drunk and does the same thing late at night,..do you tell clients about your double life old man?
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Because I don’t think the best O-lines are filled with high-round talent.
1st round pick goes to the run D: MLB or DT
2nd round: Arenas
3rd round: Two O-lineman
That’s what I would do, but who am I
I’m out for the night
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:19 pm
if you say so rich,..but I wouldnt give you any of my personal info,..sorry.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Einsteen
First, you say the massai wives are laughing at my ugly wife. Then you say it’s a photo fix???????
Eat your heart out, lonely troll.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Mea culpa. The verb for the third independent clause of my first sentence should have been “isn’t” instead of “aren’t.” I was typing too quickly and had a brainfart.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Ya old kell,..we all want your wife Bill…lol
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Hey Rich-o. How ya doin?
Sometimes I wonder why you’re always on this blog, since you don’t appear to be a Raider fan, in any way, shape or form. Perhaps you just enjoy playing the roll of Blog antagonist. A lot of the time you annoy the hell out of me with your constant bashing of anything silver and black. However, you usually do it with a certain wit and humor. I have to admit, although begrudgingly, that this blog would be a lot less entertaining if you took your imaginary ball and went home.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:21 pm
He was talking about that balloon ride photoshopping by the way old man,..try and keep up.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Vegas, it’s that kind of thinking that got us the lines that we have NOW. We have scrapheap castoffs from other teams… mostly mid-to-late rounders.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Doofus Boob
You seem very interested in my life, funny, I don’t give a schit about yours. Why is that?
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:22 pm
dang buckeye,..they used to say that about me!!!
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:23 pm
I’m going to do a facebook page Boob, you’ll be fascinated.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:23 pm
Get well soon old troll.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:24 pm
I have no doubt you will sink lower and lower old man,..no doubt at all.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:24 pm
Trade DMAC.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:25 pm
Most people in their 60`s are doing what youre doing Im sure. lol
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Boob
Your teeth will be rotted out by the time you’re 40, I’m sure.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Gnight losers. Trade DMAC. You people will never get it.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:29 pm
I’ll put it this way, Vegas:
Last year, many would have said it was far too much of a stretch to take Oher at #7 overall, so we took a receiver (Al would’ve taken a receiver even if we had the 23rd pick, though). Looking back at it now, wouldn’t you agree that Oher would have been a MUCH better choice than DHB or even Crabtree/Maclin? Even with all his production in Philly, I’d still take a GOOD (not great) OT or G instead of any of those three. Football games are won and lost in the trenches… and we don’t have anyone consistently winning those battles on either side of the ball.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:31 pm
SteveAlford, Doofus Boob, Oakglenn
I’m very proud of my life. I’ve done things that you will never do. Beeeeen all over the world. Own property in Europe. When I was the age of you and Doofus Boob, I was sailing the 7 seas.
At this point in my life, I can pretty much do what I want to.
I’ve got nothing to hide from anybody.
BUT, while you envious mfkr’s dwell in my website getting angry, you could be writing your own life.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:31 pm
I was referring to Maclin with the “even with his production in Philly” comment. I know that Oher was in Balto.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Ya,..real envious,..we all want to be in our 60`s, ugly,..married to an ugly white guy,…and obsess over the Raiders owners wealth,..yes, awesome to be you old man. lol
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:36 pm
Kell, why do you keep throwing my name in there? I never demeaned your life in any way, shape, or form. Do you just have a compulsion to try to instigate or keep an argument going? Do you have some sort of sick need for opposition and negative attention? Is your self-esteem so low that you have to start a fight, then find a way to win it so that you can say to yourself, “Ha, I told those stupid bastards! I own! I’m the best and they can all kiss my ass!”? Really, Kell… it’s either that or you have a persecution complex… because I never talked trash about your life.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Here you go Doofus, a Townhouse I have for sale right around the corner from Raider HQ
Maybe you could do a FHA?
http://www.678centrecourt.com/
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:41 pm
SteveAlford21,
Oher’s reputation probably benefitted from the movie that came out. Just like Polamalu got all the hype because of his hair.
I think Crabtree, in the long run, will be the most productive of the players you mentioned.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:42 pm
By raiders hq?…cool, next time your by there, stroll into the raiders office,..tell davis what youve been obsessing about for 7 years now,…lol….security!!! lol
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Old fool,..remeber, Iv said many timesi nhere, I dont click on links from this blog,..sorry. You really that senile?
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Steve,..old troll kell is that old crazy man on the block people avoid,…thats why the old fool comes in here to try and convince us all how great he is,..all he proves is hes a sick old man.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:45 pm
# Einstein Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:15 pm
# SteveAlford21 Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:12 pm
To each their own. I’m not mocking NASCAR or its fans… or criticizing it; I’m merely pointing out that it seems like a waste of time to me.
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The best part about NASCAR is when they finally make the right turn. Into the wall…
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My thoughts exactly.
It could only get better if they crashed through the wall and onto a soccer field.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:45 pm
I agree that over the course of his career, Crabtree will be most productive, followed by Maclin, Oher, then DHB. My argument, however, is that of the four… OHER would have been the one we should have picked. Regardless of future potential, a GOOD OT was more necessary (and still is) for our roster than a GREAT WR.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:52 pm
I’d have to google it, but I think he was the fourth highest tackle on most boards. I watched the combine highlights of him and thought he had too many concentration lapses that would end up in sacks.
He was taken around where he should have been taken. I thought Detroit should have grabbed him.
If the Raiders had taken him at 7, that would have been a huge reach as well. Worthy of boos. The only benefit of taking an o-lineman that early, is that they have a lower rate of being a bust, because if they can’t play LT, then they can always slide inside. Hmmm, who does that sound like?
For my money, Crabtree was the pick. 40 be damned.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Goodnight fellas.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Joe haden will be drafted by the raiders! Al won’t go for a need like OT he loves man to man CB’s and this guy is supposed to be the next Revis. Aso and Revis 2.0 is too sexy of acombo for Al.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:59 pm
Sounds an awful lot like Mr. Gallery!
I thought we WOULD pick Crabtree until he got hurt. Then I thought it would be Maclin. Then, in the morning on draft day or the day before… I saw the NFL Network do a player profile on DHB. They showed his 40 time and a loop of the same three long bomb plays over and over (in a box on the side of the screen during the 5-10 minute interview). After that, I knew that Al would pick him and I started cussing.
We needed then… and still need now, the best available DT, OT, or G that is available at the time that we pick. Not the best player overall, regardless of position… the best DT, OT, or G. We need to do that with our first four picks (two third-rounders). Only by building the lines will we get back to winning.
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Hey Alford
F.U., ok? You’ve been wanting a piece of me for awhile.
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Norco Bob Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Old fool,..remeber, Iv said many timesi nhere, I dont click on links from this blog,..sorry. You really that senile?
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Whaddya mean, Doofus. You live on my website.
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:03 pm
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February 23rd, 2010 at 9:08 pm
At DT, there’s a huge drop-off after Suh and McCoy.
There’s five options at OT for them to look at.
But the guy I like best is McLain at MLB.
I’m not a fan of taking mid-size players that early. (There’s many more people who are 6-2 240, than there are people who are 6-7 340. Bill Parcells called it the universe rule. There are only so many people in the universe who are that big, so if you find a good one, you have to draft them.)
I just think down the road, McLain will be a solid pro bowl type MLB, who will make the Raiders more stout against the run.
But if they draft a lineman, I’d be happy with that too.
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Kell, how have I “been wanting a piece of you” in any way? We disagreed about one thing before today… and that was football-related. Then, when I came today, I saw the posts from yesterday (I read what I missed when I get here) where you and Priest said that calling JR fat, dumb, and lazy was racist. I don’t want a piece of you at all. I just called you out on looking for racism where it wasn’t present or using that as an excuse for being wrong.
The equivalent of the argument you and Priest have to any criticism of #2 is as follows: “JR isn’t fat, you just hate him because he’s black, you racist.” That’s BS on your part and I was pointing it out. That doesn’t mean I want a piece of you. When you’re right about something, I’ll gladly agree (and have in the past, if you’ll recall… I believe it was last Thursday).
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:12 pm
You know, another poster called a guy a liar here because he said he was going to the game, but then kept posting until right before kickoff. He was pretty emphatic. Not enough time to get there? Welcome to the 21st century. You can post on the internet and do Email from a smart-phone. They are more popular and available than ever. And Richochet, I’m taking your advice. I just scroll on by…..
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:15 pm
Lets see here…..Jamarcus Russell IS fat and he IS black. Exactly what part does FoolKell deny?
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:16 pm
NorthernD:
I don’t think that McClain will be great as an MLB. I think he’d be great as an ILB in a 3-4 or MAYBE at MLB after 3 years of learning how to play in this system… AND behind two better DTs than Warren and Kelly (or behind a great NT in a 3-4). Putting a rookie from a 3-4 who isn’t used to NOT having a great NT in front of him into a 4-3 with OUR DTs… not smart. I want to get Dansby or the best possible VETERAN MLB (from a 4-3 system) and put him behind two better DTs than we have now (I’d love to switch to a 3-4, but that’ll never happen while Al still breathes).
I’d be willing to trade our 1st, one of our 3rds, and Hiram Eugene for the #1 or #2 so we can get McCoy or Suh… but that’s just me.
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:19 pm
RaiderRon, that’s just the thing. Kell CAN’T deny that Russell is fat, so instead… he defends Russell by saying you’re a racist.
There is NO DEFENSE for ANY of the accusations about Russell being fat, lazy, and dumb (dumb on the field and in his career, not in general), so he has to “win” the argument by saying that you only criticize JR because you’re a racist and that JR is great, but your racism won’t let you see it. He and Priest have this tactic as their modus operandi for all situations involving JR. They will never find a way to argue against your point, so they attack you.
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Oh, and of course there’s the “I don’t think he’s fat” statement. That’s why I posted five pics of Russell’s gut today (one with his jersey pulled up showing that fat belly hanging over his pants) and said to go watch all the away games from the last half of this past season (the black home jerseys hide the belly well… black is slimming).
Note that the argument now becomes “I don’t THINK he’s fat.” That is not a statement of fact and not a refutation of the fact that a damned QUARTERBACK has a gut hanging over his pants.
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:27 pm
SteveAlford21 Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:19 pm
RaiderRon, that’s just the thing. Kell CAN’T deny that Russell is fat, so instead… he defends Russell by saying you’re a racist.
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You’re a flat out liar.
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:29 pm
These Russell Apologists are simply HOPING that the kid ends up being good. Period. Hes done nothing to show hes anywhere near ready to step up as a bona fide NFL caliber QB. These apologists are flat out desperate for this team to return from the depths and Russell is the last life boat on board the sinking ship.
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Uh oh, Steve. Wud you lie about?
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Kell, in the last thread, you used “fat, dumb, and lazy” as the examples of things that racists said to attack JR. Later, when I said that it wasn’t about race, you said, “I don’t think he’s fat.”
To prove that he’s fat, I posted pics of this past season and told you to watch those away games after he was benched. You used the excuse of him being immature. I said that that’s an excuse for ROOKIES. Halfway through your third season, that’s no longer an excuse, much less the second. There is no denying that he repeatedly does dumb things and that he is lazy and fat. There is no argument against that. The only excuse that could work is the one you gave, but that excuse’s validity expired two years ago. The last bastion of defense is “you just criticize him because he’s black.”
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:37 pm
And as to the food thing: You still haven’t answered me, Kell… so I’ll ask you again:
I was born and raised in the south. I live in the south again now. When one of my WHITE friends puts on weight, everyone tells him to lay off the fried chicken. If saying that JR is fat because of eating SOUTHERN food is racist, then why would we say it to white people, too?
Face it, you’re LOOKING FOR racism… it’s a convenient excuse. In reality, you’re the racist. If JR was white, you’d be calling for him to be cut… but he’s a black man trying to succeed in a historically white position, so you will defend him against any scrutiny and if all else fails, you pull out the race card. All the foods that you mentioned as being “racist” to be mentioned… are foods that I eat all the time. It’s the diet of the south… and it makes you fat if you get lazy… JaMarcus is lazy, so he got fat.
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:42 pm
So, how exactly am I a liar? When people made comments that you COULD NOT refute, you called them racists. You cannot refute that JR is fat, so you used that as an example of things that racists said. You didn’t use any of the traditional racial slurs against blacks… you tied racism to something that you can’t refute (because it’s true that JR is fat) in order to try to invalidate the argument. Did you or did you NOT say that calling JR fat “smacks of racism”?
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:43 pm
But Michael Kelly aka Kool Kell’s man wife is white, so how can he be a racist? A boojew maybe, but a racist? Or is he calling a white kettle black?
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Tool Kell has to be the MOST HATED blogger on this blog…. Wow, I am a poet.
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:45 pm
Being married to a white woman doesn’t mean he won’t say that white people are racist when they aren’t. THAT in itself, is racist. He is saying that just because they’re white, they have no valid point and are making excuses. He is being racist by saying that.
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:46 pm
I agree Alford.
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:47 pm
Am I a racist for pointing out the fact that there have been MAYBE 2 great black QBs in NFL history? Its not racism its just a fact.
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:48 pm
What is this zoo?
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Why does ANYONE give a flyin rats azz hole what Michael Kelly aka stool kell has to say. Ignore the loser.
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:49 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:48 pm
What is this zoo?
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And you are the monkey………. Racist that beeotch.
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:50 pm
JR didn’t to well last season. He had issues with Work Ethic, weight, and performance.
I still believe in you JaBustus!
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:53 pm
The messed up thing is this: I believe that JR has the ability to turn it around. I believe that if he puts in THE WORK (practices, filmroom, studying, first to show up, last to leave), he could become an All-Pro with ease. All he has to do is get in shape physically and mentally… then combine that with his natural gifts and he’ll be unstoppable. And best of all, I WANT this for him… and I want it to happen while he’s still a Raider.
However, the fact that I point out all the ways that he is NONE of that (except for the natural physical tools that he has)… well, to Kell and Priest, that makes me a racist.
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:55 pm
# SteveAlford21 Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:53 pm
The messed up thing is this: I believe that JR has the ability to turn it around. I believe that if he puts in THE WORK (practices, filmroom, studying, first to show up, last to leave), he could become an All-Pro with ease. All he has to do is get in shape physically and mentally… then combine that with his natural gifts and he’ll be unstoppable. And best of all, I WANT this for him… and I want it to happen while he’s still a Raider.
However, the fact that I point out all the ways that he is NONE of that (except for the natural physical tools that he has)… well, to Kell and Priest, that makes me a racist.
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A racist? No
A realist? Yes
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:57 pm
Einsteen
I almost pity you. Almost.
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:57 pm
Ron,
I only know 1, and that is Moon.
The fact is that only a few QBs were Black before the 90s, and that was due to racism.
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:58 pm
It was due to racism before the 90’s?? Yeah, ok.
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:59 pm
He’s just not an accurate QB, and that is the hardest thing to change.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:00 pm
Another fact:
-There are 32 teams, majority of players are black, but the majority of QBs are white.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:01 pm
Kell, have you ever considered the possibility that JR is a racist, too? Think about it… most of his completions are to a WHITE man. Every time he’s asked to throw to a black man, the ball is nowhere close. JR would rather throw it to the other team than help a black man’s stats! He hates blacks so much that he’d rather throw interceptions or fumble the ball away than give a black man a reception!
Either that or JR has no accuracy past 10 yards so most of his completions are on short patterns to the tight end (Zach Miller)… and he holds the ball too low when he drops back, so it gets stripped a lot.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Alford’s been lying about my comments, all fuking nite, ok?
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:06 pm
Alford, is this Oakglenn too? damn.
You are a liar,
You’ve been purposely mis-characterizing my comments all nightlong, dude.. Almost like you’re making a living.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:06 pm
Kell, this is exactly what you said to start it:
“Not everybody, but many of the comments about Russell are stereotypical. And he has made himself an easy target.
But the Caricature is Fat, Dumb, Lazy. Fried Chicken, Hamhocks, Neckbones. All Day/Everyday on this blog.”
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:07 pm
“Yeah, ok”
Very interesting….
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:07 pm
Fellas,Im pulling for JRuss to get it together and show the naysayers that he is what Mayock said before the 2007 draft,a very gifted talent that may take a few years to gel,mature,etc. Again,Im sayin the Raiders need him,bigtime! We as fans have seen flashes of his ability,he just has to grow up,step up,for himself and the team,period. Lets see how he comes into camp,in shape,on time ,desire etc Not an excuse for failure,but I remember 24yrs old,and then add the money in, he will SHOW UP! My Opinion
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Then, you went on to discuss it further and talk about how JR’s detractors called him things solely because of their bigotry and racism. You and Priest went on and on about how there is no validity to the claims that JR is fat, dumb, and lazy… saying that the people who say that only say it because they are racists. That was from two articles ago. Hell, it’s still on the front page: Position Group Analysis
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:10 pm
My statement stands for itself. It’s my statement. Not yours, ok?
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Gilbert,
You forgot to add RAIDERS!!!
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Maybe Priest is more to blame than you, because he went MUCH further in the posit that ALL criticism of JR was based on him being black, but you did plenty of agreeing and stated that that depiction of fat, dumb, and lazy was based on racism. It’s not. JR is fat, dumb (in football-related decisions), and lazy.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:14 pm
Being in your THIRD year (no longer a rookie who can use immaturity as an excuse) and missing meetings, leaving early, not studying film, not working out in the offseason, being overweight, BLAMING TEAMMATES, and doing pretty much everything else JR did last year that prevented him from being respected and becoming a leader, GOOD player, and getting on the road to fulfilling his potential… is dumb. He did all those dumb things repeatedly, therefor, he is dumb.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:14 pm
My statement is well written and reasonable.
Your baggage is your own.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:15 pm
Good post Gilbert!
Hang in there KK, you said nothing wrong “they protest tooo much” giulty conscience maybe.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:16 pm
If you’re not racist then shut the hell up already.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:17 pm
He was lazy year last year, but he wasn’t the year before. He showed to camp early and was working with the OC Knapp at that time. He want Dumb when he scored 13 TDs, 8 INTs, and over 53% cmp rate. He regressed last year.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Hello,Raider O,Hows school goin for ya? This being the slow time of year,Im not reading posts daily,but will as the draft draws near.That said, I did see youre early draft and agree w/ most,for me like many,both lines and linebacker are a must.Take care,O RAIDERS!!!!!!
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:19 pm
He was lazy last year, but…..*
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:21 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:31 pm
SteveAlford, Doofus Boob, Oakglenn
I’m very proud of my life. I’ve done things that you will never do. Beeeeen all over the world. Own property in Europe. When I was the age of you and Doofus Boob, I was sailing the 7 seas.
At this point in my life, I can pretty much do what I want to.
I’ve got nothing to hide from anybody.
BUT, while you envious mfkr’s dwell in my website getting angry, you could be writing your own life.
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LOL..you just don’t know when to shut up, do you?
First off…I think you’re full of crap.
You state you don’t need listings? Dude..you have ONE townhouse listed…why act like “I don’t actually need any listings”?? You can use all the help you can get.
And your web page?
Seriously..that’s about as amateurish as a posting as I’ve ever seen…especially on a realtor’s page.
You post a pic of the top of someone’s head? then say “THAT’S ME”?? lol..what? You couldn’t find a single pic that WASN’T of the top of someone’s head?
then the “because I have the coolest red corvette in town”? dude…on a business web page? Sounds made up…very self serving..and very amateurish. Could have been a red Toyota..or whatever..point is you look insecure feeling the need to point it out.
“I have land in Europe”?? First off..you showed a pic of a hill…not ideal for building. And your wife is “scouting it out”?? Really? Looks like someone on a knoll..you running the scouting it out also sounds made up lol….I mean..can’t I post a picture of my vacations, with me or someone pretty much ANYWHERE, and say “that’s my land”??
What’s the point? Why even put that? Again,..it’s amateurish. It’s hokey..it reeks of “do you like me now’??
Makes you look needy, and clingy.
And damn…that silly “this is me. Stunned a kid from Oakland can say such a thing”?? Say..uh…what? What did you say that amazed or stunned you?
You allegedly bought a piece of undeveloped land..why is that so amazing? Again..see “needy and clingy”.
And honestly? Why aren’t you a broker? Who’s in real estate a long time who’s NOT a broker? Why wouldn’t you be one? That’s where the money is. There’s over 30 realtor’s working for THE BROKER…where you work.
And the “we were general contractors”?? lol..oh geez..it’s a remodel. and it appears to be a low budget remodel at that, in a pretty small place, for that matter.
And the “I’ve done things you’ll never do”??
Stop..lol…what you might notice is no one here is sprouting off on where they’ve been, who they know, what they’ve seen,..except you and priest.
any small coincidence two of the neediest, more insecure posters are running the “do you like me now” comments?
I say no.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:22 pm
JaBustus’s problem is not his race. It’s his youth which has translated into little or no work ethic, very little practical experience, a myriad of bad habits, a surrounding of loser possee pukes, a agent who’s not doing his job, an overabundance of available funds, a little bit too much of living the good life and about 35# of excess weight. Is there any wonder this guy is so screwed up? Will he ever come around? I really don;t know but Id venture a guess that if he doesn’t turn around 180º this upcoming year he’s done. ˆt will al start with his weight at camp. If he’s not down by at least 25-35# he’ll be cut. We may never know if he could ever be an NFL caliber QB. He may not give us a chance. He needs to decide to be a QB instead of a jewelery store dufus.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:22 pm
Priest, I was pointing out that it’s racist to say that white people only call JR fat, lazy, and dumb because he’s black.
I posted pics today showing his gut (still, in his third year, with a gut). We discussed how dumb and lazy it is to repeatedly miss meetings, not study film, not be prepared, not get in shape, and do all the things that JR has done to get in his own way. Your comments last night just annoyed the hell out of me (didn’t see them til today, though), so I had to address it. By calling someone with a valid point a racist rather than refuting the point, you show that you are either a racist yourself OR that you’re using “he’s a racist” as an excuse to try to invalidate their argument.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:23 pm
School is great, and I enjoy being a sudent. DL, MLB, and OL should be top priority this year.
Good Night Gilbert.
RAIDERS!!!
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:28 pm
Richchoet
I understand, who would believe it. That’s why I posted pictures. But, you know what? I don’t give a damn.
I’d be happier to talk Raiders all day. Instead, these stalkers take over the blog for hours talking about MY life.
They must be working for the Raiders.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:28 pm
@JB:
The validity of the youth and immaturity excuses officially expired before training camp of last season. I’ll spot the rookie year since he didn’t fail on the field until the end of the season, but his entire second season was horrible. There is NO POSSIBLE WAY that people who had respected opinions and clearly knew what was best and were trying to help DIDN’T advise him… hell, even without advice, you have to see what you did in ‘08 and realize that you have to work to fix it. The immaturity excuse can’t be used anymore… not for a fourth straight year.
I agree that he has no work ethic, but that’s not part of being young and immature for him… it’s part of him being LAZY. He was always better than everyone else on the field until he got to the NFL. He’s content to keep his gut and think that eventually, his “bad luck” will end. That shows that he’s dumb. The fact that he doesn’t work to improve by putting in the work in the classroom, the filmroom, and on the field… well, that shows pure stupidity after three years. A rookie or sophomore gets the luxury of excuses for that… not a 3+ year guy. The pics I posted earlier show the gut.
Fat, dumb, and lazy… Our Franchise QB… (the Franchise is In-n-Out Burger).
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:29 pm
RaiderO maybe we can call it lazy or just overconfident and not focused either way he was very wrong in his approach.
This kid has been a hard worker his entire life and some things came easy to him he got a wake up call last year. It aint going to be easy he’s going to have to apply himself like he never has before and now he knows that. I was listening to Jeff Garcia today and the host tried their best to try to get him to denegrate Russell. The gist of his asssement was that Russelll would go through growing pains and it was unfair to hold the team back while he was going through his development process.
I trust Garcia’s assesment because it’s not mean spirited and it’s not jealous over the money. He just wanted to play to help the Raiders win and he knew Russell was not ready and focused. But he never allowed the host to lead him to say that Russell didn’t care or Russell was a bust. He was honest and insightful it was a good interview.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:30 pm
Kell, that’s one hell of a strawman there. Go ahead and look it up, we’ll wait…
No one was talking about your life all day, just the invalidity of your argument.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:33 pm
“Officially expired” who are you God? what makes you think you know crap about anything sucka. Shut the hell fool. Your pronouncements get more and more presumptuous. Who died and made you GM?
That kid has as much skill and talent as any QB I’ve ever seen and when he finally gets it together he’ll be great. It’s just a matter of time……….period
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:33 pm
You’ve been mis-characterizing that comment from yesterday for the better part of the night.
Are you people getting paid to stalk me?
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:34 pm
Priest:
So, a third year player not being ready for games or for the season itself (Nnamdi’s words) is just “growing pains,” right? JR hasn’t been a hard worker all his life… he’s NEVER been a hard worker because he was always better than anyone else around him and didn’t NEED to work. If he had always been a hard worker, then it would have carried through to the NFL. Or do you think he worked his ass off for 21 years and then suddenly decided to get a gut, miss meetings, avoid film study, and just blow everything off when he got to the Raiders?
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Work ethics do not appear or disappear overnight, Priest. JaMarcus doesn’t put in the work now because he has never had to before.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:36 pm
Throwing the ball has always been easy for JR.
He never had to work hard at it. He’s surrounded by friends and family who tell him, that his poop don’t stink, and anyone who says anything bad is just a hater.
He’s a product of his environment. So is Peyton Manning.
Will JR work to improve himself, or just be content being the Mardi Gras king of Mobile?
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:37 pm
And Richochet, you’ve got your own problems, ok?
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:38 pm
He has all the natural gifts in the world, but he’s fat, lazy, and has a bad habit of doing dumb things in regard to fulfilling his potential or even doing his job at all (that’s dumb). IF he ever gets it together, he will be All-Pro. I want him to be an All-Pro Raider QB.
Has he shown me anything in three years to think he will? No.
Will I be happy if he proves it this year? Hell yes.
Am I getting my hopes up that he will? No.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:39 pm
I saw the pix, yeah he’s overweight everyone knows that but you guy’s make it seem he’s got a gut the size of a tub. He had an innertube to be sure and that is unexceptable but the fat jokes are beyond ridiculous. You’d think he was 340 lbs. he looks to be maybe 15 pounds overweight or there abouts. I’ve seen the kid enough to know that he’s not FAT just a little heavy. He could stand to lose maybe 25 lbs. for a guy 6′6″ 25 lbs. is nothing.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:41 pm
NorthernD, I agree that the friends and family have always told him he was the best and given him way too much confidence. My point is that after he stunk for the entire 2008 season (except the last three games), he should have realized that his natural tools weren’t enough. The fact that he showed to camp with a gut (and his play this year) showed that he didn’t learn that yet… and there is no excuse for NOT learning that within three years. I honestly think that it would have been better for JR if we had lost the Tampa Bay game in a BLOWOUT and he had been abused. Ending the season on a very high note like that just let him be cocky and lazy all offseason and he didn’t progress AT ALL.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:43 pm
# priesttj Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:33 pm
“Officially expired” who are you God? what makes you think you know crap about anything sucka. Shut the hell fool. Your pronouncements get more and more presumptuous. Who died and made you GM?
That kid has as much skill and talent as any QB I’ve ever seen and when he finally gets it together he’ll be great. It’s just a matter of time……….period
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You lie.
As MUCH TALENT AS ANY QB YOU’VE EVER SEEN? Then either you’ve never seen a single NFL qb, in your life, or YOU LIE.
Russell does NOTHING right…and everything wrong.
ALL YOU CAN STATE IS “oh my..did you see that deep pass”?? BIG FREAKING DEAL..a few good passes and HUNDREDS THAT SUCK means you suck as a qb…PERIOD.
Just admit you were wrong..again.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:44 pm
BHP,
I think H Jackson can help him develop as a player and a man. He needs someone he can relate to. He needs a mentor.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Priest, it’s not “nothing.” Do you know what that extra mobility would do for him? As someone who got lazy in phoenix and put on 25 pounds, then took it off… I can tell you from experience that there is a WORLD of difference. I’m not 6′6″, but JR also has more than 25lbs to lose if he wants to be toned. Just losing the gut will improve his drop-back speed, his ability to move in the pocket (and out of it), his stamina, and various other facets of his game. Weight is a more important thing than you realize.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:44 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:37 pm
And Richochet, you’ve got your own problems, ok?
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LOL..a little delayed reaction on “my widdle feelings are hurt”??
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Being a few pounds overweight is not the real issue. Roethlisberger has a gut and no one complains.
The real issue is his work ethic. Having a gut has come to symbolize his lack of motivation.
Jim Plunkett was a tubby QB, but no one ever mentioned it. Because motivation was never an issue with him.
If JaMarcus suddenly spends the early mornings and late evenings in the film room, people will stop complaining about the gut so much.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:45 pm
Gerrard Warren is fat, T Cody at 370 lbs. is fat a guy sleeping under a bridge is Lazy. If you can’t read or write you’re probably dumb.
This kid knows his playbook so stop telling that lie. This kid made to the NFL as a concensus 1st rnd pick so he’s not stupid they put you through a battery of test at the combine. They would know in 15 minutes if he was dumb.
the one that’s dumb are the people calling him dumb. Not to mention freakin’ ignorant fools. This kid was one of the top rated QB’s in SEC history. Damn dumbell!!!
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:46 pm
So six hours later the trolls are STILL here. Saying nothing. Glossing themselves. Here wack-o, KoolKell a little night reading:
The Psychopathic Troll:
The psychopathic troll is motivated to participate in an internet forum by psychotic delusions or compulsions, or by a neurotic seeking of false self esteem. The postings of the psychotic troll are unlikely to make any recognizable sense at all.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Priest,
I’ll put it to you this way: Have you ever seen an elite NFL QB with a gut like that? No. Elite QB’s know the work that it takes on the field, in the gym, in the classroom, and in the filmroom. JR should have figured these things out before the end of his 3rd season and it would show in his physique. Baltimore game at the end of the season? Still had a gut.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:50 pm
25- 30 pounds. His playing weight should be around 260.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:50 pm
Priest, I never said he was dumb in any non-football-related aspects. The things he does regarding football are DUMB AS HELL. Is it smart to repeatedly miss meetings, ignore weight problems, avoid film sessions, and do all the other things that he’s done for three years with no change of habits? No. He might be a smart person overall, but when it comes to his habits for football, he’s dumb. A wonderlich score doesn’t refute THAT.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:52 pm
Oh, and LMFAO @ using LINEMEN as an excuse to have a gut! If you don’t see a difference in the required physique to play DT and QB, then god help you for being such a waterhead. DTs are required to stay OVER a certain weight… QBs are required to stay UNDER. Wow, I can’t believe you used Warren and Cody for that sham argument…
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:53 pm
NorthernD, I salute you because I know you are an unabashed Russell detractor. And you are a 100% right if he wins he can have the a few pounds just get us to the playoffs…………..period
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:53 pm
Read it again, Priest: In terms of what he does in FOOTBALL, JR is dumb.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:54 pm
SteveAlford21,
I don’t think the reason why JaMarcus looks slow is because of the extra lbs. I think it is because he is unprepared. He is confused by the defences and does not know what to do with the ball. That comes from lack of preparation.
Just look at Brady Quinn. He’s a workout demon, and hasn’t had success on the football field either.
Having the extra donuts around his waist may help him run faster, but I don’t think it’s keeping him from being a better QB.
Having said that, I do think it’s vital for him to get in shape, just to give the appearance that he is motivated. Just to win back some of the fans.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:57 pm
NorthernD,
If you have read all the things I said, then you know that I think it’s a combination of the two. The fatness and the dumb laziness. It’s dumb and lazy to be unprepared, which JR is. Losing the weight alone won’t make him great, that’s why I also said that he has to get in the classroom and filmroom. Mastering the mental aspect of the game (not saying he’s stupid, but that he is ignorant… he doesn’t KNOW… but he CAN learn it) combined with losing the weight will make him great.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:58 pm
priesttj Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:53 pm
NorthernD, I salute you because I know you are an unabashed Russell detractor. And you are a 100% right if he wins he can have the a few pounds just get us to the playoffs…………..period
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If he wins, I’ll be his biggest fan.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:59 pm
Stop lying you freakin’ idiot, repeatedly missing meetings? who told you that? Most of what you say are flat out lies and yet you say you aren’t racist. I’m starting to wonder….
You have repeatedly lied on this kid you embellish everything and exagerate like crazy. He may have missed the year end meeting and been late maybe but the only thing he was ever fined for was his weight.
So where are your stories coming from? Your making them up as uyou go along. You’re a hater plain and simple. admit it. HATER……..period
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:01 pm
# NorthernD Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Being a few pounds overweight is not the real issue. Roethlisberger has a gut and no one complains.
RICHOCHET: Ben is 6′5″ 241 Russell is 6′6″ 280 PLUS. Ben works his ass off. JR can’t fit his ass through the door. Ben is a leader. JR only leads the team in least amount of time working out.
Big difference..in more ways than one.
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The real issue is his work ethic. Having a gut has come to symbolize his lack of motivation.
Jim Plunkett was a tubby QB, but no one ever mentioned it. Because motivation was never an issue with him.
RICHOCHET: Plunkett never, even in his later years, look around the middle like JR does STARTING OFF his NFL career.
Plunkett worked his ass off..as does Ben. No comparison between the three..except that they all play qb.
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If JaMarcus suddenly spends the early mornings and late evenings in the film room, people will stop complaining about the gut so much.
RICHOCHET: You mean AND still badly miss wide open receivers? Still walk between stations at camp? Still be last one on field, first one off? Still not care about being a leader? Still waddle around like a walrus?
I have a feeling the complaining will continue.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:01 pm
# SteveAlford21 Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:52 pm
Oh, and LMFAO @ using LINEMEN as an excuse to have a gut! If you don’t see a difference in the required physique to play DT and QB, then god help you for being such a waterhead. DTs are required to stay OVER a certain weight… QBs are required to stay UNDER. Wow, I can’t believe you used Warren and Cody for that sham argument…
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Actually this is not a true statement. Football players as almost every athlete is going to lose weight over the course of a season. In fact jay Cutler lost between 30-40 lbs two years ago, and they didn’t realize he had a serious medical condition because players expect to lose weight. In all frankness I think the babble about Russell’s weight is ridiculous. Now some of the other criticisms: they’re justified.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:01 pm
Priest, name ONE thing I said that has a racist connotation.
Nnamdi said JR is unprepared. JR was fined at least once for missing a meeting and reportedly missed others, including the final meeting of this season. The definition of repeatedly is doing something more than once. He has, therefor, repeatedly missed meetings.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:05 pm
You know one of my proven tactics is to let someone talk until they tell you exactly what they are in so many words. No matter what they profess to be if you let them talk long enough they will prove what they are.
You my friend are a HATER a biased hater as far as I know you might be a white supremist who knows?
But you bend the truth like a rubber band you are a HUGE liar……….period
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:06 pm
SteveAlford21,
I don’t think they go hand-in-hand though. For a QB anyway.
If McFadden showed up overweight, I’d cut him on the spot, because his job is to run.
There’s so many other factors which cause a QB to excel.
I remember Madden saying he used to put on so much weigth during the season because he was spending so much time watching film and eating.
The longer people are awake, the more time they have to eat. So if JaMarcus was up for twenty hours a day and studying film, then putting on the extra lbs. could be expected.
But that’s not the case.
While I agree that he should come into camp in good shape, I don’t think it truly indicates whether or not he is putting in the study time or not.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:06 pm
Northern..you’re right..losing the gut doesn’t guarantee anything.
Point is the gut is indicative of the bigger problem…attitude and desire.
It’s giving the impression that you’re trying your hardest to be the best you can be. Being out of shape means you don’t care. (Call it lazy, unmotivated..WHATEVER..boils down to he didn’t care enough to do his best)
And it snowballs…not working out as he should makes one believe he’s not studying like he should…not trying like he should…not caring like he should.
and it shows on the field..to pretty much everyone.
As someone said..he always got by being lazy..because of his big arm, and big size…but now it’s the NFL and that’s just not close enough to cutting it..right?
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:08 pm
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d8160c65a/Nnamdi-Asomugha-on-the-set
Priest, I am not a hater of JR as a person, but I HATE his habits and what he’s done for the past three years. I hope with all that I am that he becomes what we all know he CAN be. With his natural physical gifts and the tools that he has, he could be All-Pro overnight if he just puts in the work. I am not a hater, I want him to succeed. However, the only way he CAN succeed is to acknowledge the shortcomings and fix them. Overlooking them or excusing the does nothing to help. If I was a hater, I would be calling for him to be cut instead of talking about how he can fix it and fulfill his potential.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:09 pm
priesttj Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:05 pm
You my friend are a HATER a biased hater as far as I know you might be a white supremist who knows?
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Wow…lol….TJ is losing it..big time.
Now he’s a white supremist?
You’re officially the board racist scumbag, TJ.
Let me say it again…your color has nothing to do with the way you sound, or think.
You’re just slow because..well…you’re you.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:10 pm
White supremacist? LMFAO! Why do you have to make everything about race? What exactly is your problem, Priest?
I mention how JR has messed up and what he needs to do to fix it and you call me a white supremacist. You are one sick puppy.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Dan Fouts had a gut, Sunny Jurgenson had a huge gut. John Hadl had a gut. George Blanda had a gut. Big Ben has a gut. Donovan McNabb is heavy. I’ve seen tons of QB’s with guts and a lot of them are in the HOF.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:13 pm
# SteveAlford21 Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:28 pm
@JB:
The validity of the youth and immaturity excuses officially expired before training camp of last season. I’ll spot the rookie year since he didn’t fail on the field until the end of the season, but his entire second season was horrible. There is NO POSSIBLE WAY that people who had respected opinions and clearly knew what was best and were trying to help DIDN’T advise him… hell, even without advice, you have to see what you did in ‘08 and realize that you have to work to fix it. The immaturity excuse can’t be used anymore… not for a fourth straight year.
I agree that he has no work ethic, but that’s not part of being young and immature for him… it’s part of him being LAZY. He was always better than everyone else on the field until he got to the NFL. He’s content to keep his gut and think that eventually, his “bad luck” will end. That shows that he’s dumb. The fact that he doesn’t work to improve by putting in the work in the classroom, the filmroom, and on the field… well, that shows pure stupidity after three years. A rookie or sophomore gets the luxury of excuses for that… not a 3+ year guy. The pics I posted earlier show the gut.
Fat, dumb, and lazy… Our Franchise QB… (the Franchise is In-n-Out Burger).
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I can’t argue with the points you made because I agree with them. I think you will agree that this is his last chance. If he doesn’t make it this time around, he’s done for good – here and all other NFL franchises.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:14 pm
Priest, have you ever considered the possibility that JR is a racist, too? Think about it… most of his completions are to a WHITE man. Every time he’s asked to throw to a black man, the ball is nowhere close. JR would rather throw it to the other team than help a black man’s stats! He hates blacks so much that he’d rather throw interceptions or fumble the ball away than give a black man a reception!
Either that or JR has no accuracy past 10 yards so most of his completions are on short patterns to the tight end (Zach Miller)… and he holds the ball too low when he drops back, so it gets stripped a lot.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:18 pm
Keep grasping at straws sucka. And you call me sick. You check the mirror lately? the guy you’re staring at has some deep issues.
Have I ever seen a elite QB with a gut………..hell yeah too many!! Kenny Stabler was no where near a workout warrior nor was Plunkett. They both had gut’s bigger than Russell’s.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:20 pm
With the video that I linked, start it at 2:34 when Rich asks Nnamdi if JaMarcus is the guy.
Nnamdi said that he’s not prepared for games and wasn’t prepared for the season.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Priest, let me rephrase: Can you name an elite quarterback who played at an elite level WHILE he had a gut? The closest is Plunkett, but he didn’t have as much jelly hanging over his belt as JR.
And I wasn’t grasping at any straws, I was MOCKING YOU. Since you want to say that everyone who criticizes JR is racist, I thought I’d follow your logic and say that maybe the reason JR appears to have trouble is that he’s racist, too and that it’s all on purpose. That’s YOUR logic… and I was making fun of you by saying JR might be racist against blacks.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:23 pm
Nnamdi also mentioned how Russell was not prepared to get booed by Raider fan. No one is. Hopefully that was a wake up call. A BIG wake up call.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:26 pm
# priesttj Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Dan Fouts had a gut, Sunny Jurgenson had a huge gut. John Hadl had a gut. George Blanda had a gut. Big Ben has a gut. Donovan McNabb is heavy. I’ve seen tons of QB’s with guts and a lot of them are in the HOF.
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Times have changed and D players are much faster nowadays. JaBustus is NOT mobile, has bad footwork and is subject to getting sacked more often than other QB’s. If he loses 25-35# he becomes more mobile than he is now. Maybe he won’t be sacked as often and fumble the ball less.
Your defending him does not change the fact that to date, he sucks. It’s up to him to change that perception by showing us he can do the job consistently.
Don’t compare him to proven QB’s. They’ve paid their dues. JR hasn’t even started to show us he’s capable of being a starting NFL QB. This upcoming season is his last roundup. If he doesn’t perform this time around, he’s toast…….PERIOD
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:26 pm
SteveAlford21 Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Priest, let me rephrase: Can you name an elite quarterback who played at an elite level WHILE he had a gut?
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Dan Marino was not the most conditioned athlete in the history of the world. In fact Marino smoked 2-3 packs of cigarettes a day the whole time he played in the league. Don’t really see him running 15-20 miles a day with a cigarette dangling.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:28 pm
Hopefully it was. I really hope he can finally realize what he has to do to reach his potential… and then do it. I have a black #2 jersey that I’d like to be able to wear instead of being ashamed of it. I never bought into the hype that he’d be great without him showing me something first, so I only got the screen-printed one, not an authentic like my #21 and #24. (Both the 21 and 24 have ALFORD on the nameplate, though… cost $230, but it was worth it not to have to get rid of ‘em like I did with the Moss jerseys. Fyi, the #2 ISN’T Aaron Brooks… though I really expected him to do a lot better for us than he did. I liked his work with the Saints.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:30 pm
Damn can you read!! I stated already that there have been plenty playing in probowls and SB’s with guts. Ever since I’ve been watching football QB’s have had protruding guts. All the way back to Slingin’ Sammy Baugh and George Blanda at Houston long before he was a Raider. Go back and watch Lenny Dawson for the Chiefs. These guy’s were not in shape very few of them were in better shape than Russell. It’s just recently that QB’s have even given thought to being in shape. And some still don’t.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:32 pm
Seymour,
Smoking and being overweight are different. Did you know that at least until the late 90s (I stopped keeping up with it then), most of the world’s elite weightlifters were also chainsmokers? The backstage areas of the weightlifting events at the Olympics were always full of smoke. Football is a game where you have short bursts of activity, then a 40 second rest. Unless you have to run for distances, then smoking won’t really hurt you (same case with powerlifters). Being overweight, however… will. If Marino was a receiver, smoking would hurt. QB, not so much. I would love it if JR weight 30 pounds less and smoked 2 packs a day.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:34 pm
Priest,
Which ones still don’t, exactly? Other than Roethlisberger? I’m talking about starters here, not Jared Lorenzen (who went to my beloved University of Kentucky).
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:35 pm
Time changes and so has the game of football. It’s likely that Raiders of old, with rare exceptions, wouldn’t make the starting lineups nowadays. Linemen in Shells day wouldn’t make it today because they were too small and slow. There’s players in the HOF that were great in their day but wouldn’t make the cut today. It’s a different game today with different requirements. The game is more violent with bigger players, bigger hits and more injuries. Today’s skilled athlete has to be in super shape today just to survive to play the following week.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:36 pm
Oh, and fyi… I was hoping with all that I had that we’d draft Andre Woodson (from UK) and that he would replace JR until JR could get his act together. I actively campaigned for us to get him. I LOVE that kid and wanted him to be the Raiders’ starting QB.
He’s black.
It doesn’t matter, the man can PLAY and he has his act together.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:38 pm
When Daunte Culpepper was going to probowls he was 280 lbs. playing QB does not require being in great shape you can’t be sloppy fat but 10-15 lbs. overweight for a QB NOTHING!! it’s not eve worth mentioning.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:41 pm
Do you understand yet, Priest? I wanted our starter to be a black quarterback, just not JaMarcus Russell. I would take VICK right now and thank god that we have him… and until JaMarcus gets his act together, that feeling stands. We’ll know when training camp starts.
Until then, I’ll criticize what JR has done and talk about how he can fix it. You can accept that for what it is or you can call me a racist because you don’t want to admit the issues or admit that anyone can point them out without being racist. I don’t dislike his performance because he’s black, I dislike it because he could have been in the Pro Bowl by now if he’d been committed to being the best. I’d also prefer Jason Campbell right now, fyi. Campbell can’t throw for crap, but at least he’s mobile.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:41 pm
Priest, JR is more than 10-15 pounds overweight. Good job at building up a strawman to knock down, though.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:44 pm
He might have 10-15 extra pounds on the FRONT of his midsection, but that’s not the only place he’d be having an excess of fat. Look at his legs, rear-end, and stomach now compared to his last year at LSU. That man has an extra 25-30 pounds on him AT THE VERY LEAST.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:52 pm
Priest, just so you’re clear on what I meant, as strawman is where you build a fake point that is different from what someone said, then defeat the fake point that you invented. Example:
Me: We’ll have to cut your salary by 2% this year because of lowered revenue.
You: You can’t go taking all of my money like that, I won’t be able to even afford to eat! I have bills to pay, man.
You did nothing to counter the initial point, you created a false one through hyperbole (though that’s not always the case), then defeated that one.
February 24th, 2010 at 12:06 am
Okay, since everyone has gotten quiet, I’m going to head to bed. First, I’d like to ask you a question, Priest.
What’s the name of the station with the call-in show that you guys are always talking about and do they have a website (I assume they do). I moved back to the east coast in August, but I’d like to listen to it online and see what kind of coverage they have of the Raiders.
February 24th, 2010 at 5:00 am
I got a reprieve! My ex-roomie will let the computer stay with me till Saturday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 24th, 2010 at 5:02 am
KFSO AM Steve
February 24th, 2010 at 5:03 am
KFSO 560 AM
February 24th, 2010 at 5:14 am
Gawd….I’m like that thing that wont just die or go away lol
February 24th, 2010 at 5:26 am
Whats up fellas, please tell me if were stuck with cable we don’t pick up any garbage OL that cable loves, no Kwames and no Sateele.
BLACK MAMBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 24th, 2010 at 5:28 am
Great job priest try naming qb from this century, and Culpepper was much faster than Russell he could move.
February 24th, 2010 at 5:51 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Then tell me…why? Why wait so darn long?
Goodmorning 4eva, Steve, NMF…
February 24th, 2010 at 6:00 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,HWNRDR,NOMOREFARGAS,4EVA.THIS CABLE-HANSEN THING WILL NEVER GO AWAY UNTIL THEY R BOTH GONE..
February 24th, 2010 at 6:00 am
Good morning all.
February 24th, 2010 at 6:01 am
Good to see you’re still here 4eva!
February 24th, 2010 at 6:04 am
I’m thinking of bring a suit against Hanson for “willful, intentional and malicious acts” in making me think this was going to be a quiet off-season.
February 24th, 2010 at 6:05 am
Good Morning Neilb…must be about 2PM there, right? So…good afternoon to you!
Good Morning Dirt Lot…yup, I agree! It will that pain the rear that will not go away!
February 24th, 2010 at 6:12 am
Right on the money Hwnrdr!
February 24th, 2010 at 6:14 am
good morning AM crew!
lots of bickering last night …
February 24th, 2010 at 6:16 am
HEY ROCKSTAR,QB’S WITH BIG GUT’S, I GOT A CHANCE !!
February 24th, 2010 at 6:17 am
Morning Rockstar….
You sound surprised by that!!
February 24th, 2010 at 6:17 am
Good Morning Rockstar…isn’t that about 99% of the time?
Neil…I know because I have a friend there in London…
February 24th, 2010 at 6:18 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
February 24th, 2010 at 6:16 am
HEY ROCKSTAR,QB’S WITH BIG GUT’S, I GOT A CHANCE !!
LMAO! BTW: You’re going to be able to make it to the games this year?
February 24th, 2010 at 6:20 am
Good morning Nation!!
February 24th, 2010 at 6:20 am
on January 28, 2010, Al Davis informed Hanson that he would no longer be allowed to coach. In essence, Hanson’s segregation would remain in place so long as Hanson remained employed by the Raiders.
-Jerry Mac
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so Davis chose Cable over Hanson a 2nd time?
despite Dakota & other multiple requests and/or demands I think Tom Cable will remain HC of the Oakland Raiders for 2010
…but if he’s saddled with Russell for his starter again and we start out 2-7 again I think he’ll be canned before the season is over. playoffs chances are slim to none by that point
February 24th, 2010 at 6:21 am
You tell him/her to careful down there.Every day there seems to be someone getting stabbed.
February 24th, 2010 at 6:23 am
SteveAlford21 Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Vegas, it’s that kind of thinking that got us the lines that we have NOW. We have scrapheap castoffs from other teams… mostly mid-to-late rounders.
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I don’t understand this belief that we have all these late round picks and castoffs.
Our line:
LT-3rd round
LG- 1st round
C- 2nd round (acquired in trade)
RG- former 4th rounder
RT- undrafted
Compare that to the Colts line:
LT-6th round
LG-3rd round
C- Undrafted
RG-Undrafted
RT-2nd round
Again, we absolutely have to improve our Offensive line, and Green must be replaced. But this notion that you need top round draft picks on your O-line is a big misconception.
February 24th, 2010 at 6:24 am
Rockstar…
I’ve always thought that Russell will start next season for the sole reason that Al will never admit to making the mistake of drafting Russell.
February 24th, 2010 at 6:24 am
QB’S WITH BIG GUT’S, I GOT A CHANCE !!
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LOL @ Dirt Lot.
If you can throw a football 70 yards on your knees then you are worth $31.5 million guaranteed!
can I be your agent???
I already know one team in particular that will be interested
February 24th, 2010 at 6:25 am
Sorry to be repetitive there folks, just trying to educate the new guy, lol
February 24th, 2010 at 6:27 am
Vegas…
Tell him in what round Matt Light and Jeff Saturday were drafted.
February 24th, 2010 at 6:27 am
HWNRDR,THAT IS THE PLAN.STILL WORKING ON A FEW HEALTH ISSUES,BUT..LOOK FOWARD 2 HOOKING UP WITH U AGAIN 4 A BEER OR 10-12
February 24th, 2010 at 6:27 am
I’ve always thought that Russell will start next season for the sole reason that Al will never admit to making the mistake of drafting Russell.
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Neil: nice take. you could be right, but I sure hope you’re wrong
I always said that Russell will cost Cable, Tollner & Hackett their jobs
I’m sticking by that comment I made about a year ago
February 24th, 2010 at 6:28 am
be back later. gotta reset the server
February 24th, 2010 at 6:30 am
“I always said that Russell will cost Cable, Tollner & Hackett their jobs”
That’s the banker for next season!!!
February 24th, 2010 at 6:30 am
Al may be stubborn, and lost in the first round, but he isn’t incredibly stupid.
His franchise is in a state of disaster, and he needs to win games and get his salary structure under control.
Russell more than likely will be asked to re-work his deal, and openly win the QB job.
February 24th, 2010 at 6:33 am
ROCKSTAR, I WOULD NEED A RUNNING START AND A CUTOFF MAN 2 THROW A BALL 70 YDS, WOULD BE UP 2 MY AGENT TO CONVINCE AL I COULD THROW AND RUN..
February 24th, 2010 at 6:33 am
Dirt Lot…If I cannot turn the financial corner I will be forced to make a few cuts here and there…dam economy…but, the games will be one of them! So, this may be the last year! Hopefully we can do it this year! Of course, this will probably be the last year that I can handle another 5-11 or worse season!!!
February 24th, 2010 at 6:36 am
I understand Vegas that you don’t need top draft pics on the O-line. But given your Colts example, what happens if you put someone else at QB behind that line? Are they still that good? They get helped out a lot b/c Peyton gets the ball out quick and on time.
I know that the Jets have some high draft pics on their o-line and they’re considered prob the best o-line in the NFL.
That’s why I think I came off of the McClain bandwagon. Starting to think Anthony Davis in the 1st and Vlad Ducasse (the Impailer) in the 2nd would work out well. Put Vlad in at RG.
February 24th, 2010 at 6:37 am
Vegas…
Re-working Russell’s wage should be the first thing on Al’s “to do” list.
February 24th, 2010 at 6:39 am
Morning by the way.
February 24th, 2010 at 6:40 am
HWNRDR,SAME HERE.MY PARTNER’S R SLOWLY DROPING OFF. IT IS HARD 2 KEEP UP..
February 24th, 2010 at 6:42 am
The list of all the free-agents was posted by nfl.com recently.You can’t tell me that we can’t find an up-grade for RT and RG from that list.
February 24th, 2010 at 6:54 am
Midwest,
My point has always been that a great QB like Peyton and Brees can play under almost any O-line.
Each one of those teams replaced 40% of the O-line from the year before. Could anyone tell the difference? If anything they got better (Colts LT was a 6th rounder playing for the first time, Saints was a 4th rounder, replacing an injured Pro Bowler and neither missed a beat).
The Jets have acquired many former first rounders in FA. I would support that, but they only drafted 1 of their starting 5 up-front, albeit the one was a top 5 LT.
I have always said it isn’t the position that is the problem with our draft, it is the player. DHB was a bust, but so was Jason Smith and Andre Smith, OT’s taken ahead of him. WR didn’t seem like an urgent issue, but how much better would our offense and special teams have been if we had drafted Percy Harvin?
February 24th, 2010 at 6:58 am
I need some new material, I feel like I am repeating myself.
I’m turning into the KoolKell for not drafting O-line in the 1st round!!!
Aghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 24th, 2010 at 7:03 am
VEGAS,U POST YOUR DRAFT O-LINE THING EVERY 4TH POST FOR THE NEXT 2 YEARS, U WILL BE ON YOUR WAY LOL
February 24th, 2010 at 7:05 am
I don’t know if Harvin would have worked here Vegas.
I think one of the main problems of the Raiders is the out-dated play book.We’ve got plays that don’t match up with the talent we’ve got.The “let’s run Dmac up the middle” being the biggest one.
Until we modernise and use a game-plan/play book that looks to the ability of the players we’ve got,I don’t think any talent coming from college will make any difference.
February 24th, 2010 at 7:09 am
Well said Neil, well said!
February 24th, 2010 at 7:13 am
I need some new material, I feel like I am repeating myself.
I’m turning into the KoolKell for not drafting O-line in the 1st round!!!
Aghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Vegas –
go ahead and make valid statement about the O-Line multiple times over. many times you’re preaching to a different crowd anyways. your comments about Bruce and the OL are not only football related, but RAIDERS related. thats exactly what this blog was intended for!
it’s not like you’re rambling on about race, religion or politics day in & day out.
February 24th, 2010 at 7:15 am
I see your point Vegas, but we don’t have a pro bowl calibur QB on our roster to compensate for our inadequacies. I’m not like some on here that say their way is the only way to build this team back up. I realize there are multiple ways thru the draft and FA to fill the holes on our roster. If that includes picking up some 3rd and 4th round olinemen than so be it.
February 24th, 2010 at 7:20 am
Trade DMAC for pick(s). Use them on the OL to shut up Vegas Kell.
February 24th, 2010 at 7:22 am
Both 3rd rounders should go to the O-line, that is a pretty good investment for one year.
And if they like that Pouncey kid, I would be OK with him in the 2nd. I like the idea of a C/G prospect, who can play G right away and than be our C of the future. Pouncey seems like the best C in the draft, so the value of getting the best player at any position in the 2nd round is too good to pass up.
But fixing our Run D at #8 has to be the priority. Whether it is McLain, Spikes, Dan Williams or Price.
February 24th, 2010 at 7:22 am
Vegas Kell!! LoL!!
February 24th, 2010 at 7:25 am
regarding the O-Line:
to me it’s not WHERE a player is drafted or acquired. I don’t care if you pay a guy 800k per season of 5 million per season in free agency. I don’t care if you draft a guy in the 1st round or 7th round. it’s about finding talent that fits your system. It’s not about drafting a guy in the 1st round just because OL is a huge weakness. Not unless that guy is a perfect fit for the zbs (like Ryan Clady) and dominated in college. I’m tired or chasing potential or upside. We need PROVEN players that fit the scheme.
bringing in Marcus Johnson, Khalif Barnes, Erik Pears & Samson Satele from other teams did nothing for the O-Line. Bringing in Kwame Harris, James Marten, John Wade, Cooper Carlisle, Cornell Green, etc from other teams did nothing for the O-Line before them!
Cable has a terrible eye for talent. My hope is that Hue Jackson, Jim Michalczik, Chris Morgan & the scouting dept have a bigger role and Cable has a lesser role identifying these players …
February 24th, 2010 at 7:26 am
Vegas….
Agree with what you say about using the 8th pick for run D.
I just think that we could pick up a free agent RT and RG that would produce from day 1 rather than going for a prospect.
February 24th, 2010 at 7:27 am
Alright fellas…you all have a good day!!!
February 24th, 2010 at 7:27 am
Neil,
I am no fan of Tom Cable the play-caller, he was awful more times than he was even average, IMO.
I do think Harvin could have made a difference on ST, and would have caught some of those passes DHB and Murphy dropped throughout the year.
I think ST’s have never been so important as they are in today’s NFL. There are very few elite D’s (Ravens, Jets, and ??) and a few more elite offenses (Saints, Colts, Packers maybe AZ or Minny).
Most teams are around average on both sides of the ball, so ST can be the deciding factor in any game.
It is even more important when you are a pathetic offense like we were last year. Gary Russell returning the ball to the 18 every kickoff was just compounding our offensive problem.
We need a KR, and I am not sold on the undrafted white guy from Southern Utah with shin splints.
February 24th, 2010 at 7:29 am
Yeah it’s the play callers fault Dmac can’t break tackles and can’t even shake DL and fumbles all the time. Get Westbrook and instantly we upgrade over Mcfumbles.
February 24th, 2010 at 7:31 am
But fixing our Run D at #8 has to be the priority. Whether it is McLain, Spikes, Dan Williams or Price.
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McClain or Spikes at MLB would be abused just as much (if not moreso) than Kirk Morrison playing behind DT’s Warren & Kelly …
He haven’t had a real NT since Sam Adams in 2002. Adams & Parrella were solid!
draft Williams or Price. cut Warren. give Kelly a healthy paycut. leave Capt Kirk alone
watch and see what happens
February 24th, 2010 at 7:31 am
U 2 Hwnrdr!
February 24th, 2010 at 7:31 am
I agree with Rockstar that we you need to draft guys that fit your “system”.
Now if we can only get the Raiders to have an acutal “system”, we could move forward with this.
February 24th, 2010 at 7:33 am
Agree with you ref: special teams Vegas.How bad would the season have been if we didn’t have Shane.
February 24th, 2010 at 7:33 am
We need a KR, and I am not sold on the undrafted white guy from Southern Utah with shin splints.
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Nick Miller = Wes Welker
DMAC reports he’ll be ready by Week 16 and according to Jhill we’re going 11-5 so I assume we’ll leave a roster spot open for NM again and he’ll be ready when we need him in the playoffs …
February 24th, 2010 at 7:36 am
Now if we can only get the Raiders to have an acutal “system”, we could move forward with this.
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this is our 4th year heading into a season with the zbs
February 24th, 2010 at 7:36 am
We have a “system” the only problem is that it’s dated 1976.
You don’t believe me ? Wait a minute……I’ve got to get the overhead projector warmed up to prove it.
February 24th, 2010 at 7:38 am
Casey Wiegmann turns 37 in July, but he’s a perfect fit for the zbs. made the Pro Bowl in 2008
Vegas might like to point out that he was undrafted out of Iowa in 2006
February 24th, 2010 at 7:39 am
1996 – not 2006. sorry!
February 24th, 2010 at 7:44 am
If durability and toughness were confused with size and strength, Casey Wiegmann might still have a job.
They aren’t, and he doesn’t.
The Broncos are changing their front-line system from its once-renowned zone-blocking scheme to a more physical, powerful style — and it cost Wiegmann.
The Broncos’ starting center the past two years, Wiegmann was released Tuesday, as was veteran running back LaMont Jordan.
The NFL doesn’t make players more durable than Wiegmann. He played in 8,936 consecutive snaps, an iron-man streak that began with the second game of the 2001 season.
He turns 37 in July and is hoping to play one more season, in part because he would like to reach the 10,000-snap milestone.
-Denver Post
February 24th, 2010 at 7:48 am
It’s that time again.
Have a great Wednesday everyone.
February 24th, 2010 at 7:50 am
The suit alleges that after Cable was restrained by the other coaches, he threatened to kill Hanson. Defensive assistants John Marshall, Willie Brown and Lionel Washington also attended the meeting, the lawsuit says.
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I wonder what their job status is? Willie Brown retired. Washington was almost replaced by Clancy Pendergast. Mike Waufle could end up replacing Marshall as DC if Dwaine Board stays on staff as DL Coach … just guessing here
your thoughts?
February 24th, 2010 at 7:51 am
Hanson is seeking an undisclosed amount of damages in excess of $25,000. He is suing for general damages, past and future lost wages, medical expenses, punitive damages and court costs.
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thats probably half of Cable’s salary!
LOL
February 24th, 2010 at 7:53 am
SD unlikely to keep Sproles – PFT
BSJ,
would you trade McFadden to Sandy Eggo for Cromartie?
February 24th, 2010 at 7:54 am
SD needs a new “Raider Killer” for 9 years …
February 24th, 2010 at 8:09 am
trade McFadden to Philly for McNabb.
trade Bush and a 3rd rounder to New England for Wilfork.
trade Russell & Fargas to Minny for a 3rd rounder.
sign Tomlinson, Westbrook & Edgerrin James for peanuts in free agency …
February 24th, 2010 at 8:10 am
Cromartie is extremely overrated, IMO.
He got all that pub for returning that one missed FG 108 yards or whatever it was.
Never watched him and came away that impressed with him, other than he has pretty good hands for a DB.
I would give them a 4th for him, and that’s it.
But if they are in the market for an underachieving QB…..
February 24th, 2010 at 8:13 am
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February 24th, 2010 at 8:23 am
Vegas: do you think we should grab Casey Wiegmann in FA?
hard to imagine him NOT being an upgrade over guys like Grove, Satele, Morris & Wade in recent seasons!
CW is obviously just a 1-2 year fix, but that would allow us to have solid play at the center position while we work hard to correct other pressing needs …
February 24th, 2010 at 8:29 am
I’m torn on the Wiegmann idea.
Surely it doesn’t hurt to have guys like him around. But a one year guy?? I never really like to be the team supporting the retirement tour that is their last season.
So I would probably pass, but I wouldn’t be upset at all if they brought him in.
February 24th, 2010 at 8:29 am
Good morning to all my family in here.
February 24th, 2010 at 8:32 am
How’s that for straddling the fence?
February 24th, 2010 at 8:32 am
Good morning Bob.
What is the first thing to happen in the morning for you? A pill or a post?
February 24th, 2010 at 8:32 am
So I would probably pass
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so do you:
A – Look for another Center in free agency
B – Draft one in Round 3
C – stick with Satele/Morris
???
February 24th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Ah yes…Al and courts..an area Al once believed he was feared.
The only fear these days is an attorney not getting in on the windfall.
15 or so years ago it was stated Al Davis had paid out to lawyers over 35 million. I suspect it will go much higher by the time KiffinGate and RandyRandy get done.
Hanson will collect….big time.
Considering Hanson was demoted “without cause” and then punished again, along with the actual facts of the hospital visit gives the lawyers AND a jury all the ammo they need to say the Raiders were messing with a guy who claims to have been assaulted.
AND it’s up to the courts to decide the windfall?
AND IT’S AGAINST AL DAVIS AND THE RAIDERS???
Yep, lol….BIG BUCKS.
February 24th, 2010 at 8:38 am
Ricky,
do you think Al Davis’ court battles and impending fees are related to the fact that he’s got just about everybody on the trade block (even Nnamdi) ???
no salary cap means he could also go as low as he wants, not just as high. am I correct?
February 24th, 2010 at 8:38 am
I roll with Satele/Morris for now, and see if Pouncey is available in round 2 or another C/G prospect in round 3.
I am of the mindsight to give Henderson another year at LT, and Satele at C at least for the start of the season.
I am warming up to the idea of Pouncey in round 2 if he is there. Have him play RG to start the year and be our starting C in 2011 if not sooner (if they play football in 2011).
February 24th, 2010 at 8:41 am
good morning Bobby!
what are your “insiders” saying about Jaw-Gate?
February 24th, 2010 at 8:42 am
Isn’t Hanson suing for around 25K?
Lawyer fee’s would be over that for a true civil trial.
The common sense thing for Al would be to settle and move on. Instead he will probably spend 100K paying for lawyers to fight a 25K lawsuit.
The genius and stubborness of Al Davis.
And BTW, Kiffin will not see a dime or a day in court. Kiffin is a hot commodity right now, and he doesn’t want Al bringing in a host of character witnesses to try to damage his credibility/reputation.
The best thing Kiffin can do is stay away from anything Oakland Raiders related.
February 24th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Good lord, Raiderrockstar…you must have one extremely boring job. First thing you do is sign on here…up to the last second of the day? Dammmmnnnnn….
And going through hundreds of “should we get this FA?” and “I say we draft, trade, move up, move down, release/sign”?
When it’s all a total exercise in futility? Knowing full well that none of it will ever happen?
I mean, hey, to each their own…but still..one thing history has taught us is regardless of what makes total sense, Al Davis is void of same, and all you will get is a ‘WTF??? WHY DID WE PICK HIM?? OMG!!!”
Go ahead…practice the above..you’ll feel better.
Trust me!
February 24th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Vegas: Isn’t Pouncey the top Center available?
think he’ll still be on the board 40th overall or whatever pick we have in the 2nd this year ???
Alex Mack was 21st overall last April!
February 24th, 2010 at 8:45 am
“Cardinals beat writer Kent Somers suggests free agent LB Karlos Dansby will sign with “the highest bidder.”
No shocker here. Dansby is a Pro Bowl caliber player in his prime, so this is his best shot to set himself up for life. Though Arizona is still interested in re-signing him, they won’t approach the $30M guaranteed that Dansby is seeking.
Source: Arizona Republic”
So in other words, Dansby could be the newest Raider come March 5th..
February 24th, 2010 at 8:45 am
I dont have an insider in Alameda anymore,..but clearly Randy deserved his butt getting kicked,…and deserves another one.
February 24th, 2010 at 8:47 am
Ricky, hard to argue with anything you said in post #457 …
does that mean you’re not going to answer the previous question #453?
February 24th, 2010 at 8:47 am
I think there is a slight chance he will be there.
He is slated for a late first/early second it seems, so #40 might be stretching it.
I don’t think he is the same type of prospect that Mack was coming out.
February 24th, 2010 at 8:47 am
vegas raider Says:
February 24th, 2010 at 8:42 am
Isn’t Hanson suing for around 25K?
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I think the comment was ‘at LEAST 25k”.
I mean…broken jaw? Pain and suffering? Let’s start at 2.5 mil.
Job future in jeopardy? Add another 2.5 mil.
Al Davis? Raiders? multiply times 1.5 just for that alone.
Al insisting that HE get on the stand?
Put your order in for that Caribbean Island now…and beat the rush.
The bummer is the total amount received will likely not be revealed, by court order.
February 24th, 2010 at 8:48 am
Though Arizona is still interested in re-signing him, they won’t approach the $30M guaranteed that Dansby is seeking.
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thats less money than we forked out for JaWalrus!
lets do it
February 24th, 2010 at 8:49 am
And Toms ex wife deserved it too.
February 24th, 2010 at 8:50 am
Bobby,
did your ex wife deserve it?
February 24th, 2010 at 8:51 am
However, I am feeling there is a slight chance, very slight, that this civil suit can be the final straw to get rid of Cable, and offer Gruden whatever he would want and demand to return,..now,..this week.
February 24th, 2010 at 8:52 am
I dont have an ex wife.
February 24th, 2010 at 8:55 am
offer Gruden whatever he would want and demand to return,..now,..this week.
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Gruden wouldn’t coach under Al again unless he offered to make him the highest paid HC in the NFL.
terrible situation here in Oakland and Jon has a cushy job in the booth right now with ESPN …
Al Davis has too much pride to admit he was wrong to trade him to Tampon Bay. Plus he’s too cheap to pay a good coach good money
February 24th, 2010 at 8:55 am
He won’t get millions for it. Al will have better lawyers and punitive damages is always a gray area anyways.
The fact that he willingly came back to the workplace doesn’t help his “I feared for my life” claim.
February 24th, 2010 at 8:58 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 24th, 2010 at 8:38 am
Ricky,
do you think Al Davis’ court battles and impending fees are related to the fact that he’s got just about everybody on the trade block (even Nnamdi) ???
no salary cap means he could also go as low as he wants, not just as high. am I correct?
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I don’t think Al thinks that far in advance.
Considering he just got sued, he probably figured Randy wouldn’t dare sue him..and…like he messed with Kiffin..was hoping putting the pressure on Randy would get Randy to “quit”, like he wanted Kiffin to do, releasing Al of any contractual obligations.
Neither will.
As far as Al and the salary cap? Al’s screwing himself, right?
I forget the number..but isn’t just the salary of JR, Bey, and McF alone take up some ridiculously high % of money available?
Add to that Al has to NOW try and figure out the new cap stipulations, while he refuses to solicit/take advice?
Al is going to age another 10 years in the next few months alone, IMO.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:00 am
I think that is the only reason Al Davis let Hanson come back to work. looks better in court
at the time, nothing was ever proven and no charges were filed.
the two guys involved were both retained and seperated.
Al Davis always does a better job dominating a court room than Tom Cable dominates a locker room (or in this case meeting room)
February 24th, 2010 at 9:03 am
# vegas raider Says:
February 24th, 2010 at 8:55 am
He won’t get millions for it. Al will have better lawyers and punitive damages is always a gray area anyways.
The fact that he willingly came back to the workplace doesn’t help his “I feared for my life” claim.
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Al will get better lawyers? lol…how so? Matters little the amount of high priced mouthpieces Al hires, this boils down to only a handful of issues..of which everyone knows about.
Question presented to the jury is do YOU believe this guy was attacked at his place of business? All hospital reports say OH HELL YES.
Do you believe the “employees” out of possible fear of reprisal, decided to not come forth? All previous dealings with Al says OH HELL YES.
Do you believe Randy was treated differently once he returned…I mean..considering the organization said “nothing happened”?? OH HELL YES.
Do you believe Randy’s career is now adversely affected because of the incident? OH HELL YES.
And that’s NOT worth millions from an organization that listed as being worth 800 million?
Dream again.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Al is going to age another 10 years in the next few months alone
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Is that even possible? The guy looks like the Grim Reaper already visited him last year.
What would 10 more years on Al Davis even look like? Doesn’t he already crap in a bag? Can’t walk? ET fingers? Watery eyes?
February 24th, 2010 at 9:06 am
Cable Bumaye.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:07 am
Richochet,
All that is well and good for compensatory damages (hospital bills, maybe a year’s salary for being out of work and a few others).
The punitive aspect is the dicey part. You must show intention and neglience. Did Cable intend to break his jaw, especially if he didn’t punch him? Will anyone back Hanson’s claim that his life was threatened?
Not such a slam dunk as you think. Will Hanson probably get 100K or more absolutely. But I would be willing to bet he doesn’t get over a million.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:08 am
LOL @ Vegas
thats cruel man!
February 24th, 2010 at 9:09 am
would you trade McFadden to Sandy Eggo for Cromartie?
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I am not a Cromartie fan. But I would obviously consider it an upgrade.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:11 am
Mcfaddon and cromartie both suck,…both all hype, no substance.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:12 am
I can’t wait for KoolKell’s facebook page.
Exciting stuff!!!
February 24th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Mcfaddon and cromartie both suck,…both all hype, no substance.
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would that be like trading Ki-Jana Carter for DeAngelo Hall ???
February 24th, 2010 at 9:16 am
Carter was drafted 1st overall in 1995.
only had 464 yards in a single season as his career best!
February 24th, 2010 at 9:18 am
He blew out his knee in the preseason of his first year right?
February 24th, 2010 at 9:22 am
For once, the Raiders have no Cromartie-type players, all mouth and ego. The team is young, adult, and for the most part motivated.
The only character issue is with the walrus (and perhaps the HC). We do not need a Joey Porter, Cromartie, Brandon Marshall type headcase infecting the youngsters.
Oh, and Wiegmann is too old/weak. And why can’t Cornbread play RG? He run blocks very well. Could work ala Gallery. The spleenless wonder (Langston) is not the answer.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:24 am
Langston has no spleen?
I didn’t know that. Man, I was bagging on this Bronco fan when Chris Simms was starting last year saying he may die on the field.
And sadly, I may have been rooting for it.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:24 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 24th, 2010 at 9:00 am
I think that is the only reason Al Davis let Hanson come back to work. looks better in court
at the time, nothing was ever proven and no charges were filed.
the two guys involved were both retained and seperated.
Al Davis always does a better job dominating a court room than Tom Cable dominates a locker room (or in this case meeting room)
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Civil trial. Completely different. I believe you only need 7 out of 12 to agree..if I’m not incorrect.
Again, look at OJ. Found not guilty in a criminal trial, but was found guilty as hell in the civil trial, which has different rules on what can be presented.
(civil trial actually proved OJ WAS there..and..as some of the original jurors later stated, had they seen the evidence presented in the civil trail, no way they would have voted not guilty. Those Magli shoes did him in, lol..
OJ: ‘I would NEVER own ugly ass shoes like that.’
Magli dealer: “Here’s his receipt for his Magli shoes”
OJ: “oops”
PAY THE GOLDWINS 30 MILLION, MR. SIMPSON.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Ki-Jana Carter? Nah, his injury doomed him. DMAC is more analogous to Rashaan Salaam.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:27 am
# vegas raider Says:
February 24th, 2010 at 9:12 am
I can’t wait for KoolKell’s facebook page.
Exciting stuff!!!
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lol…
Told him last night he needs a web designer and someone with a lick of business sense on what to put on your BUSINESS PAGE.
KK: “that’s the top of my head”
KK: “that’s my wife on a knoll”
KK: “that’s me talking”
It was “WebDesign -101″
February 24th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Langston lost his spleen playing for us…got hit while trying to block a FG, I believe. Was out for most of the season recovering. Bad internal bleeding.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:29 am
I’m not convinced Mop Handle can manage playing guard any better than tackle.
Would he be an upgrade over Carlisle, Walker or even Morris?
He’s been in the NFL for 10 years and he’s never played guard. For whatever reason I’m guessing he’s just not a good fit there? His penalty prone matador style isn’t welcome at tackle either as far as i’m concerned!
February 24th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Just waiting for the announcement of Bruce’s new 3 year $8 million contract offer to get my official #5 jersey.
I am thinking of spending the extra dough to get Bruce on the back instead of Gradkowski.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:31 am
Mop Handle must go.
I would say you can bring him back for depth purposes, but I don’t trust Cable with Cornell Green on the roster.
Hell, old Tommy might lobby for him to be moved to LT for all we know!!!
February 24th, 2010 at 9:33 am
As a rookie Rashaan Salaam rushed for over 1,000 yards and scored 10 touchdowns!
“But problems with injuries and fumbles led him to spend only three years with the Bears”
ahhhh. I gotcha
February 24th, 2010 at 9:33 am
I’m not convinced Mop Handle can manage playing guard any better than tackle.
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Of course not. How can you be convinced if he has never tried it?
I’m just saying his strengths/weaknesses suggest he could perform better there. Getting next to the center should cut down his penalties. He also won’t see the speed rushers.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:35 am
# vegas raider Says:
February 24th, 2010 at 9:07 am
Richochet,
All that is well and good for compensatory damages (hospital bills, maybe a year’s salary for being out of work and a few others).
The punitive aspect is the dicey part. You must show intention and neglience. Did Cable intend to break his jaw, especially if he didn’t punch him? Will anyone back Hanson’s claim that his life was threatened?
Not such a slam dunk as you think. Will Hanson probably get 100K or more absolutely. But I would be willing to bet he doesn’t get over a million.
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I don’t know..I’ve seen some civil cases awarded amazingly ridiculous numbers, from people/organizations worth a fraction of what the Raiders are worth.
But, like I said, I suspect both parties will have a no disclosure ruling, and we’ll never know.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:40 am
But, like I said, I suspect both parties will have a no disclosure ruling, and we’ll never know.
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Probably right, and if there is a settlement, we definately will not know.
Not a whole lot of precendence for this type of case, which doesn’t matter as much in civil compared to criminal, so it should be interesting, either way.
Randy will get paid more than he would if he would have just continued working as whatever type of lackey he was.
Just don’t think he is going to have the Bentley and furs like our boy #2 has.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Well my work here is done, got to go pretend to work in the office for a few hours.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Vegas, how far a drive from Vegas to Havasu?…the RV goin there as well.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:52 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU8DDYz68kM
I don’t usually post this stuff..but this just may be the most amazing video caught on someone’s camcorder…ever.
Discovery Channel did a special on this alone..which is where I typed in “Battle at Kruger” on youtube, if you don’t want to click on a link, which I know Bobbo doesn’t.
Click on the first 8:20 video.
It’s a group of lions who surprise a buffalo herd, and take down a calf..and what happens is pretty amazing.
Some wildlife experts, in their careers, never get a video like this.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:54 am
FAs that we should consider:
- DE J Peppers
- CB D Robinson
- OL
- QB J Campbell
February 24th, 2010 at 9:54 am
trade dmac for lynch
February 24th, 2010 at 9:58 am
With the 8th selection in the 2010 NFL draft, the Oakland Raiders select:
“Clemson WR Jacoby Ford’s performance trainer is confident that Ford will break the Combine record in the forty-yard dash.
Chris Johnson’s 4.24 currently stands as the top forty time on record. Ford, an NCAA collegiate track star, has guaranteed a 4.2 and ran a 4.126 in high school. “With Jacoby we’re going to break the NFL record for the Combine,” said trainer Tony Villani. “But to be the fastest guy ever, he’s got to run 4.2s on lasers. He’s running some times now where I think he could.”
Source: ESPN.com”
February 24th, 2010 at 10:01 am
What’s up boys. . . .long time no smack.
Having your computer infected by a major virus is no fun.
Yeah, I saw that lion/buffalo video about a year ago.
Pretty amazing stuff. Hard to believe actually.
That calf was one lucky little bastard. Those lions had to be half-playing with it. Otherwise, it’s hard to believe the little sucker just trots off from the whole scene.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:10 am
http://answers.yahoo.com/my/profile;_ylt=AljP1VpndpPSfvLsN_VeFg9WxQt.;_ylv=3?show=jvcaIyrYaa
No one runs like BO did. 4.12- 40
February 24th, 2010 at 10:12 am
sorry http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d807b6a16
February 24th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Lions couldn’t put a death grip on it, in the water..then having alligators try and drag it away spooked a few..but yeah, being in the middle of a tug of war between gators and a pack of lions, and STILL walking away after one lone bull decided to kick some ass?
Lucky says it all.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:15 am
vegas raider Says:
February 24th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Just waiting for the announcement of Bruce’s new 3 year $8 million contract offer to get my official #5 jersey.
I am thinking of spending the extra dough to get Bruce on the back instead of Gradkowski.
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LMFAO!
February 24th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Mosi Tatupu, former Patriots RB and father of Seahawks LB Lofa Tatupu passed away today
February 24th, 2010 at 10:20 am
Rich,
That was an amazing video. There is strength in numbers.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Of course, the Raiders may nab a better one first. They pick eighth and can do worse than to address their problems at offensive tackle.
On the left side, Mario Henderson is coming off a season where he led the NFL with 10.5 sacks allowed. On the right side, Cornell Green is an unsigned free agent after leading all NFL offensive linemen with 12 penalties in 12 games.
No small wonder, the Raiders ranked 31st in sacks per pass play at 10.1 percent. For those who want to blame it all on Russell’s immobility, keep in mind backups Bruce Gradkowski and Charlie Frye each were injured in failed pass protection.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/02/24/SPQF1C63O2.DTL#ixzz0gTlMi6Jb
February 24th, 2010 at 10:23 am
how long before NFL draft “experts” say WR Jacoby Ford (Clemson) is a football player, not a track star?
same thing they said about Darrius Heyward-Bey!
“Prior to the 2009 season, the NFL Draft Scout ranked Ford as the seventh out of 310 available wide receiver prospects for the 2010 NFL Draft”
February 24th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Good morning old man,…another day for you to embarrass yoself old troll kell?…we apreciate it.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:26 am
Bo was a freak. He had speed and power. He could have been the best RB in the NFL.
Rich,
Unlucky says it all! lol
February 24th, 2010 at 10:27 am
For those who want to blame it all on Russell’s immobility, keep in mind backups Bruce Gradkowski and Charlie Frye each were injured in failed pass protection.
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You don’t say ….
February 24th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Trade the 8th pick for McNabb,..word.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:28 am
at 5′9″ 175 lbs how many FAST WR’s in the NFL actually make an impact?
I can’t think of anybody besides Steve Smith (Carolina) off the top of my head and he is one tough s.o.b.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Hello.
My name is JaChronicallyObese Bustle. I have a pressing need, and I have decided to reach out to the Raider Nation for assistance. You see, in my young life I have had the privilege of eating everything that this world has to offer. Well, almost everything. It is my goal, no my dream, to eat a live little person. Please, if you know of any suicidal midgets in the greater East Bay, put them in contact with me. I will make sure that their families are well taken care of. And, I will make sure they are prepared by only the finest chefs. Raider Nation, I beg of you, help me in this quest.
Sincerely,
JarJarBlinglard Acehole.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Trade DMAC for a live little person!
February 24th, 2010 at 10:32 am
I like Jacoby Ford but not in the 1st or 2nd RDs. We need OL, MLB, DL, CB, and a FB.
HOW IS HE GOING TO HELP US AGAINST THE RUN?!
February 24th, 2010 at 10:32 am
# ottocrat Says:
February 24th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Hello.
My name is JaChronicallyObese Bustle. I have a pressing need, and I have decided to reach out to the Raider Nation for assistance. You see, in my young life I have had the privilege of eating everything that this world has to offer. Well, almost everything. It is my goal, no my dream, to eat a live little person. Please, if you know of any suicidal midgets in the greater East Bay, put them in contact with me. I will make sure that their families are well taken care of. And, I will make sure they are prepared by only the finest chefs. Raider Nation, I beg of you, help me in this quest.
Sincerely,
JarJarBlinglard Acehole.
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You win the most point-less post of the year.
Congratulations.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:32 am
repost:
trade McFadden to Philly for McNabb.
trade Bush and a 3rd rounder to New England for Wilfork.
trade Russell & Fargas to Minny for a 3rd rounder.
sign Tomlinson, Westbrook & Edgerrin James for peanuts in free agency …
February 24th, 2010 at 10:34 am
As long as our draft pick is over 300 lbs. (offense or defense), I’ll be happy.
It’ll mean we didn’t draft a skill position player.
(Unless there’s a 300lb. wide receiver out there somewhere)
February 24th, 2010 at 10:34 am
Otto,..or jaobese guy,..if youre real hungry, eat old troll kell,..hes a flabby ugly gross looking piece of lard…youre welcome, and bon apetite!
February 24th, 2010 at 10:34 am
RR,
Jackson from the Eagles.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:35 am
When your General Manager is 29-83.
7 Straight Seasons of 11 or more.
6 Winning Seasons in the last 20.
Obviously you got waaaaaay bigger problems than Quarterback.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:36 am
Off to the Barbershop for more wisdom.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:36 am
Hey old troll kell,..al davis is right down the street, go tell him what you have cried about in here for years,..you arent scared are you old man? lol
February 24th, 2010 at 10:36 am
I think Jeff Garcia will be QB of the Cardinals by week #5. Not that I care one way or another, but, I have a hunch that’ll be the case.
The Raiders ought to take a look at Boldger as a backup. That boy’s always had game. His o-line play has been worse than ours, which is hard to comprehend.
Assuming we improve that department, he’d be a nice addition.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Tell the other losers in that barber shop how you will march into als office and tell him what he needs to hear. you old coward.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Raider O: i’m pretty sure Andy Reid would trade his ballzack away before D-Jax!
February 24th, 2010 at 10:38 am
Old troll kell drowns in jealousy every day over Als wealth,…sorry old man, keepin it real.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:38 am
Doofus Boob
You know where I’m at, why don’t you come tell me what you think of me to my face???????? Hello?????
February 24th, 2010 at 10:39 am
I want McClain or an OT with the 8th pick. Anything else will be a reach.
The top 2 DTs will be gone*
February 24th, 2010 at 10:39 am
I think Jeff Garcia will be QB of the Cardinals by week #5. Not that I care one way or another, but, I have a hunch that’ll be the case.
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good for him.
I’d rather have Garcis or Leinart over JaWalrus!
February 24th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Williams or Price would improve the run D WWWAAAAYYYY more than McClain or Spikes.
you heard it here first!
February 24th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Not worth the 2.5 hour drive old man. lol
February 24th, 2010 at 10:42 am
You know where I’m at, why don’t you come tell me what you think of me to my face????????
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LOL. another Br1en situation?
you know Bobby and him are friends, right?
you better be packin’ Mr. Cosby
February 24th, 2010 at 10:42 am
Norco Bob Says:
February 24th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Not worth the 2.5 hour drive old man. lol
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Then STFU, coward. lol.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:42 am
RR,
lol
I’m saying Jackson is another small WR like Smith. You said you can only think of one, so I was just helping you remember.
We could have drafted Jackson if we didn’t trade for D Hall!
February 24th, 2010 at 10:43 am
But Iv invited you numerous times to my tailgate…see old troll, you are right down the street from HQ,..it makes sense to just walk in, seeing how you are right there,..to talk to Al himself,..instead of crying in a blog every day, getting nowhere,..you are just an old man, coward, all talk,..crybaby,..and at your age,..thats embarrassing.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:44 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 24th, 2010 at 10:42 am
You know where I’m at, why don’t you come tell me what you think of me to my face????????
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LOL. another Br1en situation?
you know Bobby and him are friends, right?
you better be packin’ Mr. Cosby
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I’d say they’re closer than that.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:44 am
They say that Hansen is suing for 25k in damages but than he’s also going after punitive damages which could be in excess of several 100k. That will be brought up at trial, that’s my understanding of it. The $25k has to do with his injury.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:45 am
Doofus, If you’re embarrassed, turn away, simple.
I don’t know why you Tards fixate on me all day??????????
February 24th, 2010 at 10:45 am
I will meat you all, and I will beat all of you!
I’m the Lizard King, and I can do anything!
February 24th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Meet*
February 24th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Al Davis always does a better job dominating a court room than Tom Cable dominates a locker room (or in this case meeting room
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So very true
February 24th, 2010 at 10:49 am
Lol,..brian told me about how you and him were to meet to settle things, and you never showed,..typical old man coward…anyway hang in there old troll,..seriously though, seeing how you are in alameda, al davis is in alameda,..wouldnt you better off walking into the building?…then crying here every day, for years?…go tell him what you think, make copies of the last 7 years stats,…make your point,..or is crying in a blog more your speed? thought so.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:50 am
KoolKell Says:
February 24th, 2010 at 10:35 am
When your General Manager is 29-83.
7 Straight Seasons of 11 or more.
6 Winning Seasons in the last 20.
Obviously you got waaaaaay bigger problems than Quarterback.
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Broken record. U suck.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:51 am
My times up here at the library,..will log on at the shelter later… good luck with Al today old troll kell!!
February 24th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Doofus Boob
STFU, what do you know about thought or thinking?
February 24th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Krappy, that sounds like a swell offer to meet up at the barber shop. I’d love to see them dunk your old head in the comb sanitizer jar for a few laughs.
I’m wondering – do you tell the other old geezers at the shop all about the Raider’s win / loss record all day, or do they just slap a muzzle on your mouth when you walk in?
Now that’s a picture you should slap on your crappy ol website!
February 24th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Heres the deal. Hansons a f’in puz-zay. Take your f’in beatin like a man and learn from it.
A time or two I’ve had my head handed to me and by god a time or two I had it comin.
Learned from it and didn’t go whinin to court.
The world was a better place when people who got mouthy and out of line got rapped in the beak and shut up.
Its like a reset button.
“Reboot”!
Forces a self diagnostic.
F-uh-k Hanson for dragging this BS out, F-uh-k Cable for not being in control of his temper and ufk Davis for letting Hanson back in the facility to gather evidence for his civil case.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Ricky Bobby,
No need to fight, let the Killer mini Poodles handle the issue.
After a long walk on the beach.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:57 am
Heres the dealio.
Rolando McClain is the shiz night.
He’s a 3 down LB and a f’in thumper against the run.
He’s VERY intelligent and has a killer work ethic.
This guy can read offenses and set the D. Unlike Morrison who’s shown over his lengthy tenure he CANNOT.
Bet your azz McClain would LEARN from his over pursuit and not let it happen again and again and again and again and again and again and….
February 24th, 2010 at 11:04 am
N21: the run defense was bad BEFORE Morrison was MLB too … for 3 years in fact
We haven’t had a real NT since 2002.
Sucked against the run every year since then.
see what i’m saying ???
They’ve been showing LT highlights on SportsCenter like crazy this week and most of them are against the Raiders. Most of the time he’s untouched until he gets to the DB’s! is that just Morrison’s fault? Is that even primarily KM’s fault? and what exactly is Morrison’s role? Most of the time under Rob Ryan he was floating back into coverage …
February 24th, 2010 at 11:06 am
new post!
February 24th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Joe Haden’s moving up…
He’s not 6-2, 200 lbs + but he’s likely the best man coverage DB in the draft.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1273176?tag=untagged
February 24th, 2010 at 11:18 am
Hanson got what he had coming. Art Shell should have done the same thing to Jerry Porter, IMO.
February 24th, 2010 at 11:22 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 24th, 2010 at 11:04 am
N21: the run defense was bad BEFORE Morrison was MLB too … for 3 years in fact
We haven’t had a real NT since 2002.
Sucked against the run every year since then.
see what i’m saying ???
They’ve been showing LT highlights on SportsCenter like crazy this week and most of them are against the Raiders. Most of the time he’s untouched until he gets to the DB’s! is that just Morrison’s fault? Is that even primarily KM’s fault? and what exactly is Morrison’s role? Most of the time under Rob Ryan he was floating back into coverage …
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Pffft!
NT’s or DT’s are no excuse for Morrison’s piss poor tackling on an island, constantly getting wired to blockers, over pursuing the run, not minding his gap responsibilities and getting caught out of position, making horrible audibles that cost TDs and long runs ect ect.
Morrison sucks at MLB.
He and Howard were brought in to deal with Gates, Gonzales and who they thought Schefler was going to be.
That was of course assuming teams would eventually need to pass against us when our offense provided a lead.
Surely you can’t be suggesting we DON’T need an MLB?
Besides, Wilfork’s tagged and anyone can see with the draft of guys like Sedrick Ellis and Glen Dorsey rookie DT’s rarely have a massive impact right away despite paying them top 10-15 money.
Do we need better play from our D line. YES!
Is MLB mmore of a priority? YES…
February 24th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Richochet.
Battle of Kruger video was AMAZING.
This blog can be a total waste of my time.
But that video was well worth me scrummaging thru various comments/post
thanks a lo my friend
February 24th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
I wouldn’t be mad if we took Joe Haden CB from Florida.
Not a glaring need. But may be best player avaiable.
Wouldn’t be mad bout dez Bryant either.
Hard to pass up on definite talent
February 24th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
To directly quote the D.A.: “The evidence is overwhelming that Tom Cable did not intend to harm Mr. Hanson.”
Add to that that no other witness corroborated Hanson’s story, and his testimony was inconsistent.
This is the little weasel trying to get something again. Tough go, even in a civil suit.