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		<title>By: Jerry McD: Position group analysis: Defensive line - Oakland Raiders Forum &#124; Message Board - Where the Raider Nation lives!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry McD: Position group analysis: Defensive line - Oakland Raiders Forum &#124; Message Board - Where the Raider Nation lives!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Raider O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raider O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O Mock Draft 8.0:

1- OT: Williams, Davis, or Campbell
2- DT: L Houston
2- ILB: Spikes  Trade 3rd &amp; 5th to move up to the 2nd to draft Him.
3- WR/ KR: Jacoby Ford
4- DE: Austen Lane
5- OG: M Johnson, JJ, Ciron Black, of CB: Walter Thurmond
7- DT: Demarcus Granger, or FB

-Move Seymour inside, Trade TK or give him a pay cut, cut Walker, Warren, and Fargas.

-Sign the best C in FA and add a FB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O Mock Draft 8.0:</p>
<p>1- OT: Williams, Davis, or Campbell<br />
2- DT: L Houston<br />
2- ILB: Spikes  Trade 3rd &amp; 5th to move up to the 2nd to draft Him.<br />
3- WR/ KR: Jacoby Ford<br />
4- DE: Austen Lane<br />
5- OG: M Johnson, JJ, Ciron Black, of CB: Walter Thurmond<br />
7- DT: Demarcus Granger, or FB</p>
<p>-Move Seymour inside, Trade TK or give him a pay cut, cut Walker, Warren, and Fargas.</p>
<p>-Sign the best C in FA and add a FB.</p>
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		<title>By: hellsbells</title>
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		<dc:creator>hellsbells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should go hard at Evans the OG from the Saints.  Beast at RG. Dump Fargas for Mike Bell.  Make a run at Dansby also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should go hard at Evans the OG from the Saints.  Beast at RG. Dump Fargas for Mike Bell.  Make a run at Dansby also.</p>
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		<title>By: vegas raider</title>
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		<dc:creator>vegas raider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jhill Says: 
February 28th, 2010 at 10:00 pm 
If Kiffin and company were still in place, or whoever was the coach Jamarcus’ rookie year, I think you will see a lot more progression.

Russell was simply asked by Cable’s gameplan to do something that he was not ready to do. Especially with 2 rookie WRs, and a shotty Oline. I understand the concerns his teammates have, but I don’t think his progression from shotgun spread offense QB to NFL QB was far enough along for Cable’s plan. Should have been heavy run, and play action off that. Shorter routes like we talked about earlier.

*******************************

Ahem...(good morning)

Jamarcus&#039; best moments as a pro come under Cable at the end of 2008. I thought Cable&#039;s gameplan of Jamarcus in Denver in 2008 ( 10-11, 150 yards, 2 TD&#039;s) is exactly what you are calling for. Kiffin had Russell throwing 20+ passes his last game against the Chargers.

Cable tried to grow Jamarcus in the offseason going in to 2009, and the first week, it worked well. The 20 points at home opening night, was the most points Jamarcus would lead our offense to all year in a game.

Than everything fell apart, but I don&#039;t think you can blame it on being too aggressive in play-calling. We lost games by 30 points, and threw under 20 passes. We threw the second least amount of passes in the NFL last year. We just couldn&#039;t get any first downs and offensively we were as bad as any Raider team, maybe ever. It gave 2006 a run for the money.

They had to bring in Bruce to triage the situation, and he did a bang-up job, especially considering the circumstances. Even Russell looked better after the few games, and certainly benefitted from watching a pro&#039;s pro for once in his career.

Bruce needs to be on the roster for 2010, for no other reason than to push Jamarcus. If truly an open competition this camp and preseason, which I think it will be, it will be a close one. 

Bruce, we know, will fight tooth and nail in the preseason, and show his &quot;fire&quot;. Russell will try to show off his arm and unleash some rockets down the field. 

Get your popcorn ready.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jhill Says:<br />
February 28th, 2010 at 10:00 pm<br />
If Kiffin and company were still in place, or whoever was the coach Jamarcus’ rookie year, I think you will see a lot more progression.</p>
<p>Russell was simply asked by Cable’s gameplan to do something that he was not ready to do. Especially with 2 rookie WRs, and a shotty Oline. I understand the concerns his teammates have, but I don’t think his progression from shotgun spread offense QB to NFL QB was far enough along for Cable’s plan. Should have been heavy run, and play action off that. Shorter routes like we talked about earlier.</p>
<p>*******************************</p>
<p>Ahem&#8230;(good morning)</p>
<p>Jamarcus&#8217; best moments as a pro come under Cable at the end of 2008. I thought Cable&#8217;s gameplan of Jamarcus in Denver in 2008 ( 10-11, 150 yards, 2 TD&#8217;s) is exactly what you are calling for. Kiffin had Russell throwing 20+ passes his last game against the Chargers.</p>
<p>Cable tried to grow Jamarcus in the offseason going in to 2009, and the first week, it worked well. The 20 points at home opening night, was the most points Jamarcus would lead our offense to all year in a game.</p>
<p>Than everything fell apart, but I don&#8217;t think you can blame it on being too aggressive in play-calling. We lost games by 30 points, and threw under 20 passes. We threw the second least amount of passes in the NFL last year. We just couldn&#8217;t get any first downs and offensively we were as bad as any Raider team, maybe ever. It gave 2006 a run for the money.</p>
<p>They had to bring in Bruce to triage the situation, and he did a bang-up job, especially considering the circumstances. Even Russell looked better after the few games, and certainly benefitted from watching a pro&#8217;s pro for once in his career.</p>
<p>Bruce needs to be on the roster for 2010, for no other reason than to push Jamarcus. If truly an open competition this camp and preseason, which I think it will be, it will be a close one. </p>
<p>Bruce, we know, will fight tooth and nail in the preseason, and show his &#8220;fire&#8221;. Russell will try to show off his arm and unleash some rockets down the field. </p>
<p>Get your popcorn ready.</p>
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		<title>By: hwnrdr</title>
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		<dc:creator>hwnrdr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, 4eva is working on getting his own comp...hopefully!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, 4eva is working on getting his own comp&#8230;hopefully!</p>
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		<title>By: Thec07</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thec07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richochet Says: 
March 1st, 2010 at 1:07 am 

lol…you’re so stupid you can’t even lie right.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Yep.......ROFLMAO.....</description>
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March 1st, 2010 at 1:07 am </p>
<p>lol…you’re so stupid you can’t even lie right.</p>
<p>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</p>
<p>Yep&#8230;&#8230;.ROFLMAO&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: vegas raider</title>
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		<dc:creator>vegas raider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good morning Nation!!

No 4eva I see......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning Nation!!</p>
<p>No 4eva I see&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe we should move Seymour. He really only played DT in the 4-3 and was an DE when in a 3-4. So start him at DT..
Our line would be Ellis, Seymour, Kelly, Matt... The backups at DE Jay (would get moves time playing) and Scott moves from OLB to DE on passing downs.. DT we will have Warren and Byrant can play both DE and DT given size. The only problem I see is that some players can&#039;t adjust from left to right and in our case they will need to adjust and be ready to play from both sides.. This make subbing easier and gives the line different looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe we should move Seymour. He really only played DT in the 4-3 and was an DE when in a 3-4. So start him at DT..<br />
Our line would be Ellis, Seymour, Kelly, Matt&#8230; The backups at DE Jay (would get moves time playing) and Scott moves from OLB to DE on passing downs.. DT we will have Warren and Byrant can play both DE and DT given size. The only problem I see is that some players can&#8217;t adjust from left to right and in our case they will need to adjust and be ready to play from both sides.. This make subbing easier and gives the line different looks.</p>
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		<title>By: hwnrdr</title>
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		<dc:creator>hwnrdr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hid the invoice...but I got a call from my rep on Friday!
Funny thing though...and this may be a sign...I tried calling back and got her Voice Mail!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hid the invoice&#8230;but I got a call from my rep on Friday!<br />
Funny thing though&#8230;and this may be a sign&#8230;I tried calling back and got her Voice Mail!!!</p>
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		<title>By: NoMoreFargas</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoMoreFargas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trade Dmac for a Dirty Burger!</description>
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