Cable at the combine
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, March 1st, 2010 at 7:19 am in Oakland Raiders.
Managed to get a transcript of the Q&A session with Raiders coach Tom Cable at the Indianapolis scouting combine Sunday. So here it, is, albeit a day late:
Q: What is the Raiders QB situation for 2010?
Cable: You know, getting ready to start the offseason and get to OTAs and minicamp and let the job be competed for. That’s where we’re at in terms of our starting quarterback.
Q: Who will competition include?
Cable: All those guys so long as we can get some them re-signed and see if we add anybody to the mix.
Q: Is QB a position you might look for in the draft?
Cable: For us, we have to look at a number of things, so I don’t think you would discount that or any other position.
Q: What are some other positions of need?
Cable: For us right now probably working a little bit on the line of scrimmage and the secondary and some things like that. And really come away from this combine and knowing what’s going to be available, so you can really put your finger on some of that.
Q: Offensive or defensive line?
Cable: I think both. You always have to look at it and see where you want to be in those two areas.
Q: Is offensive tackle a position you would’ve wanted to fill last year?
Cable: The way Mario Henderson played to close out 2008, we felt good pretty good about it. As long as we can continue to get him better and improve him, which he’s done, and we’ll make the right decisions that way.
Q: What was the impact of Richard Seymour?
Cable: I think he was everything I thought he’d be. I heard a lot about who he is as a person and what he’d bring to the locker room and the practice field and preparation and all those things. To me, he accomplished everything I heard about him. The thing I probably was most excited about was how much he impacted our young players on the football team. He’s been in the NFL for some time and he knows how to prepare. How to get himself ready, how to take notes. The time it takes, day to day, week to week, as you go through the season. And, ultimately, how to take care of your body. So I think there were a lot of good lessons learned there from a bunch of young football players.
Q: Is there some blueprint that can used comparing JaMarcus Russell to Vince Young?
Cable: I have not put a lot of thought on this at this point. Right now the focus has been on getting this evaluated and getting ready for free agency and the draft. JaMarcus is working and doing things he should be doing right now. And he’ll get himself prepared to compete for the job. That’s the only way to look at it.
Q: How important is Seymour’s leadership on young players?
Cable: Very important. Both he and Greg Ellis brought a lot of that to our football team. And guys like Charlie Frye and Bruce Gradkowski I thought brought some of that to the other side of the ball. I don’t think you can ever have a team that can turn it around and start building something without that type of leadership in the locker room.
Q: Are you hoping Seymour extends his deal beyond the one year?
Cable: I certainly you hope so. We’ll continue to work on all that. And I think Richard wants to be there and get his family settled. Those are the things important to him.
Q: Have Darren McFadden’s injuries kept him from taking lead role?
Cable: I think so. Every time he’s gotten himself going and had pretty good production something has happened to either take him out of that game or not let him be as big a part in the next one. He’s a fine player and as he’s able to stay healthy for longer periods of time you’ll see more for what we all hope.
Q: Reaction to possibility overtime rules will be changed for playoffs
Cable: Well, you know, for me, having spent quite a while in college football, that’s kind of the dynamic way to play overtime. I think both teams getting a fair shot at it and put into a stress environment in terms of a short field and all of those things and yet play off each other and answer what the other team did. I think that brings more strategy into this whole thing. Where they go with it and how they get there will be talked about and decided. I’m comfortable with it. I think there needs to be something, so we’ll see what they’re doing.
Q: What if it’s just used in playoffs and not regular season?
Cable: Well, again, we’ll see. Hopefully we’re one of the teams in playoffs that has to worry about that sort of thing.
Q: Do you expect Javon Walker to be on the team? And why haven’t you been able to get him going?
Cable: To answer the second question first, really we’ve had the emergence of those young players and really Louis Murphy, Chaz Schilens and Johnnie Lee Higgins give us something. Darius Heyward-Bey gets hurt and misses a good chunk of the season. So I think it’s there development and trying to bring that group along. Will he be there next year? We’ll see.
Q: Compare having one guy to get all offseason reps at QB, opposed to competition?
Cable: To me, that would help our football team right now to get into more of that competition. As we said the last time we met as a football team, the next step for us as a team is going to be the biggest, it’s going to be the hardest. We’re competitive now, but you got to win more and win the games you’re supposed to win. And I think competition helps you do those kinds of things. I’m all for having guys going at it and battle for the job.
Q: Was your job security ever a question for you?
Cable: No, it wasn’t. We went through the evaluation process. As I was told, ‘You’re under contract and we need to talk about everything.’ That’s what we did. There was a lot of speculation but the whole time I went to work every day and did what I knew I needed to do to get ready for the evaluation, get ready for the Senior Bowl,
ready for all those things that were coming up.
Q: When were you told you were coming back?
Cable: I was never told I wasn’t. . . . That’s the one misnomer. There was a lot of speculation. But every day I went to work and every day I got ready for the routine, the self-scout and all the things you’d normally do. So for me sitting back, I wondered what all the fuss was about. I just going to work every day.
Q: How do you cope with all the distractions?
Cable: I don’t have that much distraction. I have a wonderful wife and kids and good family. Good coaching staff. Players I like to be around and coach all the time. So I really don’t worry about things I can’t control. Those are things that are immediate in my life that I can take care of.
Q: Are you taking part in negotiating contracts?
Cable: We’ve all kind of been involved in it, meaning the owner and I and other people in the building. I think that’s the way it’s always been done. It was that way last year and again this year. For me, it’s nothing new.
Q: Were you in the room when Sebastian Janikowski’s contract was being negotiated?
Cable: Some of that, yes.
Q: Nnamdi Asomugha has been rumored as a player on the trade block. Are you open to trading your best player?
Cable: We get a ton of calls about a lot of players on our football team all the time. In fact, before I came in here I was on the phone about something. To me, that stuff happens in the NFL. It’s going to happen all the time, so people call you and you listen. And see if anything interests you or doesn’t interest you. Sometimes it’s crazier than you think what they’re talking about. So you just take the call and you listen.
Q: Do you want to tell us who you were talking to?
Cable: No.
Q: Are you sure?
Cable: No.
Q: Mike Iupati, guard from Idaho, and his chance to be a strong player?
Cable: Absolutely. First of all, he’s an Idaho Vandal, so I’m biased. He’s a terrific player. I think his future will be very bright. He’s going to have to transition from that level to the NFL. But he showed he has the ability to do that at the Senior Bowl. I’m very proud of him. I’m pulling for him to succeed, big time.
Q: How much do the Raiders place on the combine. Perception is biggest-fastest-strongest is going to be a Raider?
Cable: I don’t know. How about the best player? Let’s talk that way. We need to get better in some areas, so you got to look at this thing and find who you think the best players are, rather than they jump the highest or run the fastest. It shouldn’t make a damn difference. He has to be able to play football good enough for you to become a championship team. At the end of the day, that’s what really counts. A lot of guys who run fast can’t play dead. For me, get the best players targeted
and go back and sit down as a group, collectively put that together, and start your process.
Q: Given that, how did Darius Heyward-Bey’s first season go?
Cable: I think there were some good and some things that were probably disappointing. The injury, to me, is disappointing. I think the amount of pressure that was put on that kid from all angles, the scrutiny came the day he was picked, probably unfair but, hey, this is the NFL and that’s what it is. But with his work ethic and his character, he’s going to be what he’s supposed to be. You’ll be excited to write about him soon.
Q: Have you made your RFA tenders?
Cable: We’ll do that when we get back.
Q: How would you assess the performance of Michael Huff?
Cable: I’ve always felt Michael was on the cusp of his breakthrough. He had it this year. Lionel Washington and those guys on defense really got him ready to go, and I thought he was outstanding the whole year from the first game all the way through the last one. It was definitely a breakthrough for Michael, and hopefully that’s just the sign of where he’s at as a player now and we can get a lot of big play from him.
Q: Do you still need to weed out guys who `don’t get it’?
Cable: I think as I stood up here last year we talked about some of those things. I think we’ve done that. We kind of go to work for a common theme now, which is to succeed. And I don’t think you can do that if you have a bunch of knuckleheads. I feel good about our team. What I want to do is improve our team. What I want to do is improve our team and it’s talent level and take the younger players and develop them even further than we have at this point. So I like where the team’s at that way. For us, again, the next step is becoming a winning team with some consistency. And that’ll be the hardest step.
Q: What does team need to do to improve?
Cable: All of the above. The first thing we need to do is get better at taking care of the football offensively and getting turnovers defensively. Then, we got to throw the ball on offense and stop the big play on defense. You can put your hands on those things. You can say that’s something we have to start from Day 1 and start preaching – not that we haven’t. But it’s got to become so focused here – not take anything away from anything else. But those areas, if we can really make some inroads there, we’ll be a pretty good team.
Q: What’s the risk of taking a player like Mike Mitchell who wasn’t invited to the combine? And were you concerned about public perception?
Cable: No. Look, what I’ve been through, that doesn’t matter to me that way. If people watch Mike play the last six weeks, they’d say, ‘That’s why they took him.’ He was sensational. He impacted the last six games as much as anybody on our defense in a number of ways because he can play in all your packages. So to worry about that now, not at all. The bottom line is to find the best players whether they’re under a rock or at the combine. It doesn’t matter.
Q: Was there a feeling somebody else was going to get Mitchell?
Cable: We knew teams knew about him. We knew there were three other teams that liked Mike like we did. So it was going to be a matter of who came up first in the draft.
Q: With all you gave up to acquire Seymour, was the value there?
Cable: I think so, if you look at what he brought to our team . . . the opponents’ ability, or lack thereof, to run at him, run on that side of the line of scrimmage. I’d like to see a little more pass rush out of him, which he’ll probably be the first to tell you that. But with all those things considered, yeah, definitely. If you can get that out of a first-round pick, you’ve done pretty well.
Q: Has Russell given you assurances he’ll take care of himself in the offseason?
Cable: It’s really not about him giving assurances. It’s simply, he has a job to do like everybody else. Do your job and do it in a matter helps this team succeed. We have talked a couple of times. I know he’s working and I’m anxious for the offseason program to get started so we can see him all the time.
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March 1st, 2010 at 7:24 am
Than everything fell apart, and their are many reasons why and plenty of blame to go around. Surely the line, and the inexperienced WR’s were awful. Cable’s play-calling week 3 and against the Jets were especially bad at the beginning of games. AND on some occasions when blocking would hope, Running backs would fumble, WR’s would drop passes, and QB’s would miss throws.
They had to bring in Bruce to triage the situation, and he did a bang-up job, especially considering the circumstances. Even Russell looked better after the few games, and certainly benefitted from watching a pro’s pro for once in his career.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:25 am
Whoops!!!
jhill Says:
February 28th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
If Kiffin and company were still in place, or whoever was the coach Jamarcus’ rookie year, I think you will see a lot more progression.
Russell was simply asked by Cable’s gameplan to do something that he was not ready to do. Especially with 2 rookie WRs, and a shotty Oline. I understand the concerns his teammates have, but I don’t think his progression from shotgun spread offense QB to NFL QB was far enough along for Cable’s plan. Should have been heavy run, and play action off that. Shorter routes like we talked about earlier.
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Ahem…(good morning)
Jamarcus’ best moments as a pro come under Cable at the end of 2008. I thought Cable’s gameplan of Jamarcus in Denver in 2008 ( 10-11, 150 yards, 2 TD’s) is exactly what you are calling for. Kiffin had Russell throwing 20+ passes his last game against the Chargers.
Cable tried to grow Jamarcus in the offseason going in to 2009, and the first week, it worked well. The 20 points at home opening night, was the most points Jamarcus would lead our offense to all year in a game.
Than everything fell apart, but I don’t think you can blame it on being too aggressive in play-calling. We lost games by 30 points, and threw under 20 passes. We threw the second least amount of passes in the NFL last year. We just couldn’t get any first downs and offensively we were as bad as any Raider team, maybe ever. It gave 2006 a run for the money.
They had to bring in Bruce to triage the situation, and he did a bang-up job, especially considering the circumstances. Even Russell looked better after the few games, and certainly benefitted from watching a pro’s pro for once in his career.
Bruce needs to be on the roster for 2010, for no other reason than to push Jamarcus. If truly an open competition this camp and preseason, which I think it will be, it will be a close one.
Bruce, we know, will fight tooth and nail in the preseason, and show his “fire”. Russell will try to show off his arm and unleash some rockets down the field.
Get your popcorn ready.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:34 am
Q: Has Russell given you assurances he’ll take care of himself in the offseason?
Cable: It’s really not about him giving assurances. It’s simply, he has a job to do like everybody else. Do your job and do it in a matter helps this team succeed
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Good to hear some tough talk.
Jamarcus deserves a lot of blame, but if the Raiders would have put their foot down from day one, we might not even be here.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:42 am
Still waiting for Bruce’s tender!
March 1st, 2010 at 7:48 am
2 versions of the same post make it to print?
LMFAO!
Bruce triaging the situation? Ok, man. If you say so. I think the offense STILL stunk overall.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:49 am
good morning AM crew!
after reading Cable’s comments I’m sort of fired up …
ready for some football
March 1st, 2010 at 7:51 am
Bruce & Charlie bring to the offense what Dick & Greg bring to the defense – Tommy Cable
Jhill: don’t worry bro. They’ll be back
March 1st, 2010 at 7:53 am
Jhill, You brought up a good point yesterday that I never really considered. JRuss could have had an emotional digression based on the loss of his uncle.
All of us know how devastating it could be to lose someone. JRuss may have needed time from football becuase he was “frozen”. I have been in that position after a moajor loss. I for one have bagged on him, I hope he does get better, but we have no idea what his emotional state was and if he has recovered….
March 1st, 2010 at 7:54 am
Cable basically says he wants to address the OL & DL and draft football players, not track stars.
he’s not thrilled about Javon or JaMarcus.
QB will be an open competition. YEAH!
put that in your pipe and smoke it JaBlubber lovers!
March 1st, 2010 at 7:55 am
Q: What are some other positions of need?
Cable: For us right now probably working a little bit on the line of scrimmage and the secondary and some things like that. And really come away from this combine and knowing what’s going to be available, so you can really put your finger on some of that.
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There you have it. CJ and Routt were NOT acceptable, and I totally agree.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:56 am
also …
Cable had the perfect opportunity to say “Nnamdi isn’t on the trade block. He’s not going anywhere”
but he didn’t. why not?
I thought that report from Adam Schefter was just hater-aid from a former writer at the Dungver Post???
March 1st, 2010 at 7:57 am
we had this confirmed a while ago but things are as i suspected… We have a shortage of Stand Up Guys on this team….
1. Big Sey
2. Ellis
3-53. ?????????
March 1st, 2010 at 7:58 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 7:54 am
Cable basically says he wants to address the OL & DL and draft football players, not track stars.
he’s not thrilled about Javon or JaMarcus.
QB will be an open competition. YEAH!
put that in your pipe and smoke it JaBlubber lovers
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LOL! Not thrilled about Javon or JaMarcus, huh? Let me guess: You were “reading between the lines” to come up with that BS. What a joke!
March 1st, 2010 at 7:59 am
So whjo as been the so called leader of the raiders before the addition of the two Stand Up Guys listed????
March 1st, 2010 at 8:00 am
so we had zero veteran leadership before the addition of Seymour, and Ellis?????
March 1st, 2010 at 8:00 am
regarding DHB:
with his work ethic and his character, he’s going to be what he’s supposed to be. You’ll be excited to write about him soon.
regarding DMC:
He’s a fine player and as he’s able to stay healthy for longer periods of time you’ll see more for what we all hope.
regarding JaWalrus:
It’s really not about him giving assurances. It’s simply, he has a job to do like everybody else. Do your job and do it in a matter helps this team succeed.
LOL!!!
March 1st, 2010 at 8:01 am
Thec07 Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 7:57 am
we had this confirmed a while ago but things are as i suspected… We have a shortage of Stand Up Guys on this team….
1. Big Sey
2. Ellis
3-53. ?????????
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Losman. Southwick.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:03 am
regarding DMC:
He’s a fine player and as he’s able to stay healthy for longer periods of time you’ll see more for what we all hope.
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“what we all hope” = TRADE?!
March 1st, 2010 at 8:03 am
what’s up Debo?
did u have a good weekend?
obviously your Monday morning isn’t off to a great start. your boy JaWalrus got booted off the scholarship program. he’s just another guy competing for a spot on the 53 man roster now …
March 1st, 2010 at 8:05 am
Meet our new WR project:
“Yahoo!’s Jason Cole reports that Bryant was viewed as “consistently irresponsible” in Stillwater with one source saying, “I wouldn’t draft that kid unless I had someone to wake him up in the morning to get to meetings, someone to wake him up for practice and someone to wake him up for games.”
http://www.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/Index
March 1st, 2010 at 8:05 am
Cable was managing the offensae and calling plays….
That was one of the major debacles of last season.
I didnt want DMAC in the begining, but now that we have him, we need to use him, like NO uses RBUSH…
Cable a line coach, never ran an offense, is the HCO, and OCO of an NFL franchise…ROFLMAO…..
March 1st, 2010 at 8:05 am
jhill Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 7:42 am
Still waiting for Bruce’s tender!
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No need to worry Jhill. Grads isn’t just a career backup QB, he is a fringe NFL player. The only reason we have him is because his buddy Hackett got a job with us. Nobody else wants him. If we want to keep him, he’ll be there.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:07 am
For me, get the best players targeted
and go back and sit down as a group, collectively put that together, and start your process.
Q: Given that, how did Darius Heyward-Bey’s first season go?
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LMFAO!
March 1st, 2010 at 8:07 am
Cable is saying about as much this year as he did last year this time. A bunch of optimistic crap! If you think he is saying anything besides none of your business you are a fool.
Cable will not show his hand before the draft and he really does not have a clue!
I am not counting on the playoffs for this team in 2010.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:08 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 8:03 am
what’s up Debo?
did u have a good weekend?
obviously your Monday morning isn’t off to a great start. your boy JaWalrus got booted off the scholarship program. he’s just another guy competing for a spot on the 53 man roster now …
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Oh yeah? Who told you that? And what do you mean by “scholarship”?
March 1st, 2010 at 8:10 am
Thec,
Cable ran UCLA’s offense and it performed quite well. I’m sure you meant an NFL offense….
March 1st, 2010 at 8:10 am
Evans RG Saints.
Dansby MLB
Sproles or Mike Bell RB. (if we move one of our backs)
RFA
Robison CB
Ryans MLB
Player wisk list. Evans main target.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:11 am
Cable a line coach, never ran an offense, is the HCO, and OCO of an NFL franchise…ROFLMAO…..
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Thec:
Cable was OC at Colorado in 1999.
Head Coach at Idaho from 2000-2003.
OC at UCLA from 2004-2005.
only NFL experience as OL coach though. you’re right if thats what you were getting at …
March 1st, 2010 at 8:11 am
Correct Bo an NFL offense… WTF does cable know about an NFL offense… Mr. Davis must have been high, or drunk the day cable sold him on that one….
March 1st, 2010 at 8:13 am
what do you mean by “scholarship”?
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you’re not dumb Debo. I’m not going to waste my time answering that question for you
thats like a 10 year old asking you to change his diaper
March 1st, 2010 at 8:14 am
Bruce, as with TH and the other potential tenders, will probably all be done by this weekend, and none will be announced prior to March 5th.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:15 am
Jhill,
I was thinking the same thing in #23.
Who is asking these questions? I like the guy!!
March 1st, 2010 at 8:15 am
O Mock Draft 8.0:
1- OT: T Williams, A Davis, or B Campbell.
2- DT: L Houston
2: ILB: B Spikes (trade a 3rd & 5th to move up)
3- WR/ KR: Jacoby Ford
4- DE: Austen Lane
5- CB: Walter Thurmond, or OG
7- DT, FB, or OL
March 1st, 2010 at 8:16 am
I say tender Howard and Morrison to the second round pick compensation. Make each play on a one year contract or take the pick. Not a whole lot of money to invest.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:16 am
Cable’s NFL experience:
2006 – ATL’s OL Coach
2007 – Oakland’s OL Coach
2008 – Oakland’s interim HC/play caller/OL Coach
2009 – Oakland’s HC/play caller/asst OL Coach
2010 – Oakland’s Head Coach (hopefully no other roles, including personnel decisions!)
March 1st, 2010 at 8:19 am
NFL Scouting Combine ends tomorrow.
RFA tenders will be announced thursday or friday.
wednesday would be considered EARLY the way Al Davis operates!
March 1st, 2010 at 8:21 am
Cable <——- An NFL Line coach, lucky no one of quality wanted the job, because of the "GM" we have,
and the circus atmosphere….
March 1st, 2010 at 8:22 am
Tender Bruce!!
GarbageKowski won 2 games in his 4th season in the NFL and had a QB rating of 80.6!!
JR played almost the entire season in 08, it was his 2nd year, and his QB rating was 77.1!
GarbageKowski won 2 games in his 4th season in the NFL, was a 6th TD pick, was released from 2 teams that needed QB help, has a noodle Arm, but you guys are ready to crown him!!!!
What a Joke!!!!
Let’s Franchise him!! His mom cooked for the team!!
He is the next gannon, he works hard!!
He won 2 games, so let’s tender him!!
You people…..
March 1st, 2010 at 8:24 am
Do you think Campbell made him self a lock for us at eight? Williams was right there with him and is duarable and productive. Said he looked great on the right side. Great run blocker.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:24 am
RaiderDebo Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 8:08 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 8:03 am
what’s up Debo?
did u have a good weekend?
obviously your Monday morning isn’t off to a great start. your boy JaWalrus got booted off the scholarship program. he’s just another guy competing for a spot on the 53 man roster now …
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JR haters always come up with garbage like this. A scholarship suggests to me that JR is getting something that he doesn’t deserve and thats BS. What No. 1 pick in the history of the league hasn’t been given every chance to succeed? And the guy had a promising 1st year as a starter two years ago. Is he really supposed to lose his “scholarship” because he regressed behind a bad OL, no running game and two rookie wideouts? Al knows the deal. I’d say JR’s “scholarship” is alive and well.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:25 am
Raider O Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 8:22 am
Tender Bruce!!
GarbageKowski won 2 games in his 4th season in the NFL and had a QB rating of 80.6!!
JR played almost the entire season in 08, it was his 2nd year, and his QB rating was 77.1!
GarbageKowski won 2 games in his 4th season in the NFL, was a 6th TD pick, was released from 2 teams that needed QB help, has a noodle Arm, but you guys are ready to crown him!!!!
What a Joke!!!!
Let’s Franchise him!! His mom cooked for the team!!
He is the next gannon, he works hard!!
He won 2 games, so let’s tender him!!
You people…..
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LOL!
March 1st, 2010 at 8:27 am
Did we Tender GabageKowski?!?
I don’t know how we can play football without him!
Can we still Franchise him?
Bruce! Bruce! Bruce!!!
March 1st, 2010 at 8:27 am
LOL Raider O!!
A little hyper this morning are we?
When Bruce had to come in and mop up Jamarcus’ mess in the Jets and KC game, it lowered his QB rating for the year.
His rating in the games he started were in the mid 80’s. And his “80.6″ QB rating was the 2nd highest last year amongst all QB’s taken the year he was drafted, just barely behind VY.
Just saying.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:30 am
Once Bruce is re-signed or tendered, I will be willing to take on all wagers, $50 or less, who will be starting week 1. (Of course barring injury)
I will put my money where my big mouth is.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:31 am
LeBron to the Lakers?
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/35634126/ns/sports-player_news/
March 1st, 2010 at 8:34 am
1. Okung
2A. A Davis
2B.5 T Williams
March 1st, 2010 at 8:35 am
If James goes to the lake show they will win 5 of the next 7…. wit or without Kobe….
March 1st, 2010 at 8:35 am
I’d say JR’s “scholarship” is alive and well.
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according to who? find me something that suggests this
Cable benched the Hamchise in favor of Bruce, Charlie & JP. He’s still the Head Coach and he said we’re gonna have an open competition. He didn’t even discount the notion of drafting a QB. LOL!
the only ones making excuses for JaWalrus are you, Jhill & Priest. PERIOD
March 1st, 2010 at 8:36 am
Ltr NATION….
March 1st, 2010 at 8:36 am
vegas raider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 8:27 am
LOL Raider O!!
A little hyper this morning are we?
When Bruce had to come in and mop up Jamarcus’ mess in the Jets and KC game, it lowered his QB rating for the year.
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Interesting thought. But if Bruce is going to the HOF like you say, why didn’t we score one point in either of his mop-up appearances? In fact, those are the only two games where you can accurately say they were playing with the same supporting cast.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:36 am
I hope Kobe Bryant gets traded to the Nets!
March 1st, 2010 at 8:36 am
“Hamchise” …..ROFLMFAO……
March 1st, 2010 at 8:37 am
Vegas,
lol
I know you like Bruce A LOT, but I don’t & I enjoy reminding you of that. Almost As much as I like to remind Bo that The OSU > mich.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:38 am
I like Cable calling out Bruce for his leadership of the young players.
He is 18 months younger than Jamarcus, has half as many NFL starts, and was drafted one year earlier.
What a difference one year makes!!
March 1st, 2010 at 8:38 am
Let me guess: You were “reading between the lines” to come up with that BS.
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lol!
March 1st, 2010 at 8:38 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 8:35 am
I’d say JR’s “scholarship” is alive and well.
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according to who? find me something that suggests this
Cable benched the Hamchise in favor of Bruce, Charlie & JP. He’s still the Head Coach and he said we’re gonna have an open competition. He didn’t even discount the notion of drafting a QB. LOL!
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You forgot to mention that Cable was stripped of the offense. Hue Jackson said he’ll be running the whole thing. My guess is that JR’s job is more secure than Cable’s.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:40 am
We kind of go to work for a common theme now, which is to succeed. And I don’t think you can do that if you have a bunch of knuckleheads.
-Tom Cable
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what was the theme before?
March 1st, 2010 at 8:40 am
Debo,
Bruce in the HOF, never went there but OK. I just want him to start in 2010, because I think he is the best we can do in one offseason.
And didn’t we score in the KC game with Bruce in? I can’t look it up because I am at work, but I thought we were about 20 yards away from another epic Bruce comeback.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:43 am
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March 1st, 2010 at 8:44 am
Debo,
Bruce in the HOF, never went there but OK. I just want him to start in 2010, because I think he is the best we can do in one offseason.
And didn’t we score in the KC game with Bruce in? I can’t look it up because I am at work, but I thought we were about 20 yards away from another epic Bruce comeback.
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We were until DHB did to Bruce what he’d done to JR all season. Good thing we got that rectified for the Pitt game. Too bad JR was benched by then.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:44 am
You forgot to mention that Cable was stripped of the offense. Hue Jackson said he’ll be running the whole thing. My guess is that JR’s job is more secure than Cable’s.
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Debo – read this and then shut up please
“I’m hired as the offensive coordinator, and I’ll be the primary play-caller. That’s my role. It’s a chance to go out and assist the head coach and be the best offense we can be.” – Hue Jackson
Jerry Mac (01/26/2010)
March 1st, 2010 at 8:46 am
Hue Jackson is the “primary” play caller, not the ONLY play caller.
He’s here to assist Tom Cable, not replace him.
his words, not mine …
March 1st, 2010 at 8:48 am
We were until DHB did to Bruce what he’d done to JR all season. Good thing we got that rectified for the Pitt game. Too bad JR was benched by then.
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Yeah too bad…….
Dude are you even a Raiders fan? Too bad??!!??? We got to see the best 4th quarter by a QB in RAIDERS HISTORY!!!! Who cares if Bruce stays or goes, regardless that was awesome to watch.
“Too bad”….LMFAO
March 1st, 2010 at 8:49 am
Morrison haters –
why didn’t the media hate on my boys Kirk & Thomas?
why did Cable mention fixing the lines and secondary, but not the LB’s?
doesn’t the media & coaching staff “watch film”?
LOL!!!
March 1st, 2010 at 8:52 am
Cable was using subterfuge RRS. We are drafting three LBs in the first 4 picks.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:53 am
As bad as JaMarcus Russell was, and he deserves much of the blame for his performance.
Had issues with confidence and accuracy.
Things got better when Bruce Gradkowski came aboard.
Vegas – Jerry Mac already said what you’re saying on Saturday. these guys are in denial
March 1st, 2010 at 8:53 am
JR has a lot more talent than Bruce, but he lacks motivation and work ethic.
Too bad!
I still believe in you JaBustus!!
Late gents.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:54 am
Trade DMAC for some “We are not trading DMAC” subterfuge!!
March 1st, 2010 at 8:54 am
Cable was using subterfuge RRS.
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your boy Darren McFadden was drawing up plays for him in the dirt. he’s a line coach.
you think he’s smart enough to even know what “subterfuge” means ???
March 1st, 2010 at 8:55 am
“And guys like Charlie Frye and Bruce Gradkowski I thought brought some of that to the other side of the ball. I don’t think you can ever have a team that can turn it around and start building something without that type of leadership in the locker room.”
Translation: JaMarcus is a bum. If it were up to me I’d cut his lazy azz tomorrow.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:58 am
Jerry Mac on the D-Line:
…rushing yardage they surrendered through either shabby tackling, poor gap control, or simply getting pushed around.
Although Kelly has his moments, he’s shown no sign he’ll ever be worth all the money they paid him the previous year to stay out of free agency. Warren has moments where he can’t be blocked and then . . . it’s been the story of his career at previous stops in Cleveland and Denver.
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Jerry must not have been watching film, eh guys?
Kelly & Warren are awesome DT’s. blame Kirk! LOL!
March 1st, 2010 at 8:59 am
I would like to see the “moments” where Money has shown he can’t be blocked.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:01 am
“I’m hired as the offensive coordinator, and I’ll be the primary play-caller. That’s my role. It’s a chance to go out and assist the head coach and be the best offense we can be.” – Hue Jackson
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Al Davis handpicked this guy. Last year our offense scored the fewest points in franchise history. How does the above quote not mean that Hue Jackson is taking over this offense?
March 1st, 2010 at 9:01 am
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March 1st, 2010 at 9:03 am
all 133 tackles Kirk Morrison made last year were 10+ yards downfield!
all 90 (combined) tackles made by Warren & Kelly were made at or behind the line of scrimmage!
forget a NT. draft McClain!
yippee!
March 1st, 2010 at 9:04 am
Love how this read between the lines stuff goes …
Let me give it a try, lol!
“JaMarcus is working and doing things he should be doing right now. ”
“We have talked a couple of times. I know he’s working and I’m anxious for the offseason program to get started so we can see him all the time.”
All the time? Translation = He’s the starter!
Doing the things he should be doing? Translation = he’s DOING THE THINGS HE SHOULD BE DOING!
March 1st, 2010 at 9:05 am
I would like to see the “moments” where Money has shown he can’t be blocked.
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Vegas: Jhill has it on film!
March 1st, 2010 at 9:06 am
Vegas,
I thought Jerry Mac saying it was all it took?
HE called $ unblockable, lol!
March 1st, 2010 at 9:06 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 8:53 am
As bad as JaMarcus Russell was, and he deserves much of the blame for his performance.
Had issues with confidence and accuracy.
Things got better when Bruce Gradkowski came aboard.
Vegas – Jerry Mac already said what you’re saying on Saturday. these guys are in denial
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And next time dude, please post the who quote. Unbelievable!
As bad as JaMarcus Russell was, and he deserves much of the blame for his performance, the fact that he was playing behind a line that couldn’t run and couldn’t protect made it unlikely to pull out of his tailspin and contributed to his issues with confidence and accuracy.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:06 am
Sorry RaiderDebo… last year was not the worst offense in Raider history… the 2006 Bed and Breakfast shenanigans hold that esteemed distinction.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:07 am
Let me give it a try
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Jhill: you’re not very good at it. please leave that to the semi-pro bloggers
Thanks.
Management.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:09 am
Its ok though… you dont need to have your facts straight to bad mouth the Raiders… we all know your a Chargers fan who comes here to annoy us.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:10 am
jhill Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 9:06 am
Vegas,
I thought Jerry Mac saying it was all it took?
HE called $ unblockable, lol!
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Hey Jhill,
Maybe Vegas will believe you if you say “Jamie Foxx said Money is unblockable”. LOL!
March 1st, 2010 at 9:10 am
ROFLMAO….All of you are on fire this morning…lol
March 1st, 2010 at 9:12 am
please post the who quote. Unbelievable!
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Jerry Mac said the OL “contributed” to his issues with confidence and accuracy.
do you know what contribute means? look it up.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:12 am
Jhill,
I’m calling Jerry on that one. I would take his opin for more than mine, but I must have missed when Money was unblockable.
Is he talking one or two plays? I can’t even really remember him making more than one or two impact plays a game.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:14 am
I’m calling Jerry on that one. I would take his opin for more than mine, but I must have missed when Money was unblockable.
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Vegas: ask Jhill for the film!
surely he’s got more than 1 or 2 plays!
March 1st, 2010 at 9:15 am
stats are for losers, but film is for semi-pro bloggers!
booyah!
March 1st, 2010 at 9:22 am
“It’s not necessarily changing the whole (throwing) motion, it’s where I’m holding the ball,” Tebow said. “I’m holding it higher and not having that loop in there. My release point isn’t different at all.”
“I talked to a lot of different quarterbacks coaches and a lot of people who said ‘Wait till after the draft (to change the motion),’” Tebow said. “But I’m not afraid of what anybody thinks. If I need to change it, then I’m going to do it now.”
Tebow isn’t changing everything.
He insists the only real difference is that he’s shortened his throwing motion to get rid of the ball quicker – and he hopes get himself back on the podium come April 22.
“I know wherever I go and whoever drafts me is going to get someone who gives everything to the team, who leaves everything on the field every day,” he said. “My dream is to be an NFL quarterback and I’m going to do whatever it takes to do that. If I’m asked to do something else, I’ll do it, because it’s always team first.”
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if he drops to Round 4, draft him !!!
low risk/high reward
March 1st, 2010 at 9:24 am
ROFLMAO…..
March 1st, 2010 at 9:24 am
Tebow a beating in the press during the Senior Bowl, and rightfully so because he wasn’t very good.
Now the Tebow machine is going to get rolling. He had a very good combine, and will probably have any even better pro-day.
I still hold to my belief that no way does he make it out of the 2nd round.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:28 am
I with ya Vegas… I have a feeling that the Tebow Hype machine doesnt make it out of the first round.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:31 am
Vegas: McShay & Schefter both said that every team that interviewed Tebow walked away impressed
gotta love a smart kid who is a gifted athlete and has a passion for the game. Also a proven winner with leadership skills.
change where he holds the ball to get it out 1/2 second quicker? no that big of a deal imo
have him sit & learn during his rookie season. he’ll flourish in Year #2 or #3
March 1st, 2010 at 9:31 am
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March 1st, 2010 at 9:32 am
NOT that big of a deal. typo!
March 1st, 2010 at 9:36 am
Tebow knows that by changing certain aspects of his game now, it may drop his draft stock if he doesn’t have it down 100% by the 03/17 Pro Day.
…but he also knows that he’s giving himself a 5 or 6 month head start on perfecting his game before training camp.
He’d rather go undrafted and then picked up when he’s ready than get drafted and get cut by the end of OTA’s & camp. pretty smart move imo. If you know you gotta work on some things, the sooner the better!
he’s more concerned with being a good football player than the paycheck he’ll get as a rookie.
the anti-russell. LOL
March 1st, 2010 at 9:40 am
I’d laugh if Tebow gets drafted in Round 6 by the Patriots and he becomes the new Tom Brady.
Brady the football player, not Brady the douchebag.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:54 am
Jhill, I have a different take on Cable… reading between the lines.
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“…getting ready to start the offseason and get to OTAs and minicamp and let the job be competed for. That’s where we’re at in terms of our starting quarterback.”
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“heck, at this point I’m ready to suit up and toss around the pigskin – I need one of these guys to step up.”
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Q: Who will competition include?
“All those guys so long as we can get some them re-signed and see if we add anybody to the mix.”
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“We’re gonna bring Gradkowski and Frye back because of the leadership and professionalism they provide. Don’t be surprised if we bring in someone else to make things interesting.”
For comparison, here’s Cable July 29, 2009:
“I think right now in moving forward our starting quarterback is JaMarcus Russell and Jeff is his backup,” Cable said. “How it all plays out and all that, we’re always evaluating this football team. We certainly want to put the best chance on the field to win.”
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“And he’ll get himself prepared to compete for the job. That’s the only way to look at it.”
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“And I hope for his own sake he takes the offseason seriously. I just can’t worry about him any more.”
March 1st, 2010 at 9:54 am
Hey RRS,
An article you will find compelling re: faith, etc. No joke.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/opinion/28kristof.html
March 1st, 2010 at 10:03 am
Good Morning Nation!
After reading Cables Q&A, I wonder what his score would have been on the wonderlic test? Not very high.
Fire Cable!
Cut JaLoser!
3 sample questions sure to give Cable trouble on the test.
1. Which of the following is the earliest date?
Jan. 16, 1898
Feb. 21, 1889
Feb. 2, 1898
Jan. 7, 1898
Jan. 30, 1888
2. LOW is to HIGH as EASY is to _____?
SUCCESSFUL
PURE
TALL
INTERESTING
DIFFICULT
3. Al Davis’s Depends size is
NEWBORN
8-16 LBS
17-24 LBS
ADULT XL
JOHN HERRERA SIZE
March 1st, 2010 at 10:08 am
An article you will find compelling re: faith, etc. No joke.
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interesting read BSJ. our church donates to Haiti via Convoy of Hope.
I used to sponsor a child through World Vision when I lived in CA (for 2 or 3 years), but finances got tough when I moved to Missouri without a job in place.
certainly everybody with (or even without) money could or should be more giving. not just Christians
March 1st, 2010 at 10:15 am
LA,
Coming off 2 wins to close the season, of course the coaches comments would be that Russell was the starter. Why would it have been any different?
This year, he finished the season as the #3 guy. The #3 guy needs to try and get back to #1. What else would you expect the coach to say?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:15 am
Q: How important is Seymour’s leadership on young players?
Cable: Very important. Both he and Greg Ellis brought a lot of that to our football team. And guys like Charlie Frye and Bruce Gradkowski I thought brought some of that to the other side of the ball. I don’t think you can ever have a team that can turn it around and start building something without that type of leadership in the locker room.
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Hmmm….You can’t have a team turn it around and build something without the type of leadership that Gradkowski and Frye have. You don’t even have to read in between the lines folks. Cable laid it all out right there.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:18 am
So McCoy at 295 lbs or Suh at 305 are going to be better at clogging up the middle than the 330lb guys we have now?
Someone please tell me again who the 4-3, eh hmm, NT is supposed to be in this draft that we are supposed to take at 8?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:19 am
Very True banana.
can you imagine Russell with the work ethic, leadership and passion for the game like some of these guys on the roster with half the arm strength?
sad. you can lead a horse to the water, but you can’t force him to drink …
March 1st, 2010 at 10:21 am
Jhill: Suh & McCoy are going in the Top 5
I’d be very surprised to see one of them sitting there 8th overall unless they have some serious freak injury between now & April 22
March 1st, 2010 at 10:27 am
we’ll have a chance to upgrade the interior D-Line in Rounds 1 & 2 in the draft …
Dan Williams (DT Tennessee) 6′2″ 329 lbs
Brian Price (DT UCLA) 6′2″ 300 lbs
Terrence Cody (DT Alabama) 6′4″ 354 lbs
Lamarr Houston (DT Texas) 6′3″ 302 lbs
March 1st, 2010 at 10:27 am
94. U suk
March 1st, 2010 at 10:29 am
You don’t even have to read in between the lines folks. Cable laid it all out right there.
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So following that logic, since Cable didn’t mention Nnamdi, Morrison, Branch, Fargas, Schillens, or Gallery, what does that say about them?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:29 am
i’m not sure about Tyson Alualu or Cam Thomas. risky to draft in Round 2 imo
Round 3 i’d say go for it …
March 1st, 2010 at 10:30 am
Cable is a WUSS, and because of that he’ll always suck as a coach.
How in the hell can you sit there and make excuses for player after player after player?
It’s CABLES JOB TO GET PLAYERS TO PLAY AT THEIR BEST.
That’s it.
That’s ALL HIS JOB IS. The assts. take care of drills, working with receivers, line, special teams..etc…ALL HE HAS TO DO IS INSTILL A WORK ETHIC THAT GUARANTEES EACH PLAYER IS PLAYING TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY.
And he hasn’t.
What the hell is this crap “We would like so and so to do more?” IT’S UP TO YOU TO KICK ASS, AND DEMAND THEY DO MORE. If they DON’T? Get someone who will.
He demands nothing from anyone..never has.
And his generic say absolutely zero comments above?
Waste of bandwidth..the politically correct say nothing reply.
WHY NOT STATE THE OBVIOUS?
Bey didn’t come close, and needs to be working his ass off the whole offseason.
That JR’s ass best show up in top shape if he expects a shot at the starting position?
Instead generic say nothing comments…from a head coach who’s obviously anything but a head coach.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:32 am
So following that logic, since Cable didn’t mention Nnamdi, Morrison, Branch, Fargas, Schillens, or Gallery, what does that say about them?
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Not the same logic at all. Cable is calling out guys who play the same position as Jamarcus.
If Cable were to praise the leadership of JLH, Bush and CJ than it would follow the same logic for those guys.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:33 am
# The Big Banana Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 10:15 am
Q: How important is Seymour’s leadership on young players?
Cable: Very important. Both he and Greg Ellis brought a lot of that to our football team. And guys like Charlie Frye and Bruce Gradkowski I thought brought some of that to the other side of the ball. I don’t think you can ever have a team that can turn it around and start building something without that type of leadership in the locker room.
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Hmmm….You can’t have a team turn it around and build something without the type of leadership that Gradkowski and Frye have. You don’t even have to read in between the lines folks. Cable laid it all out right there.
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LMAO..you just stated ‘DON’T READ BETWEEN THE LINES’, where you then proceeded to do just that?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:33 am
Rich,
Without the generic comments, what would all the read between the liners be left with?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:34 am
Jhill: so what if Warren is 330 lbs?
Sands was 355+
size isn’t as important as motor & strength imo
I’d rather have a guy that is a proven run stuffer in college than a guy who disappears more often than not in the NFL for 10+ seasons, even if he is 30 pounds lighter
you won’t find an NFL scout in the country who compares Suh or McCoy to Warren in terms of run support
March 1st, 2010 at 10:34 am
111. Translation: “Everything and everyone sucks. Dear gawd its tough being the bestest, smartest sack licker in the world!
Everyone is beneath me!…What Mom? No I’m not looking up g-ay porn again! MOM! Stop! I’m ruling my minions!”
March 1st, 2010 at 10:35 am
Seymour and Ellis play the same position as Jamarcus?
I thought Cable was speaking on leaders on a particular side of the ball?
I need to my read between the lines decoder updated!
March 1st, 2010 at 10:36 am
McLain refuses to do ANY Combine work outs.
I understand he’s got more to lose if he does, but it raises a flag and he took the place of someone who WOULD have worked out.
He’ll have his pro day but still its disappointing.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:38 am
you won’t find an NFL scout in the country who compares Suh or McCoy to Warren in terms of run support
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LOL!
Uh, what?!?!?
Who will we find on who they compare to? Got a link?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:38 am
All the pre draft speculation on what the Raiders SHOULD do in the draft means nothing when Alison is pulling the trigger.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:40 am
size isn’t as important as motor & strength imo
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Cmon man!
The whole UT/NT thing you went through, and it’s not important? We are supposed to be filling Warren’s spot with a real NT that can hold the point and take up 2 blockers. Just asking which one of these guys is the 4-3 NT you had in mind?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:42 am
# RaiderDebo Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 9:06 am
As bad as JaMarcus Russell was, and he deserves much of the blame for his performance, the fact that he was playing behind a line that couldn’t run and couldn’t protect made it unlikely to pull out of his tailspin and contributed to his issues with confidence and accuracy.
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Oh boo de damn hoo…
Reality check for ya…EVERY SINGLE QB TAKEN IN THE FIRST ROUND THAT IS ON A TEAM DRAFTING 1-15 is going on a team that is struggling.
Accuracy IS ACCURACY..don’t blame the o line because he misses someone WIDE OPEN…don’t blame the WR when the ball is thrown 10 feet to his right..don’t blame the play calling when Russell rifles a ball in at 90 MPH that should be thrown with touch…that’s on the qb.
See…everyone has to do their job. Blockers block. Receivers catch. Qb’s throw.
IF THE QB CAN’T DELIVER THE BALL TO WHERE HE’S AIMING, THE REST IS A MOOT POINT.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:42 am
I don’t think Cable is even smart enough to have stuff for us to read between the lines.
He clearly isn’t a “global thinker” and is very reactionary, hence jaw-gate and beating his wife.
So if he says Bruce and Charlie are the leaders on offense, it isn’t a prodding to Jamarcus, sad as it may be those are our leaders!!
March 1st, 2010 at 10:44 am
But Mayock said he thinks McCoy’s performance in the bench press at the scouting combine (23 repetitions of 225 pounds) is a red flag.
“When you start comparing numbers, which is what this combine is all about, in the weight room yesterday Suh did 32 and McCoy did 23,” Mayock said Monday on NFL Network. “I was stunned that McCoy only did 23 reps. That tells me he hasn’t been in the weight room the way he should have been over the last three years.”
March 1st, 2010 at 10:47 am
I don’t think Cable is even smart enough to have stuff for us to read between the lines.
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Right!
So Jamarcus is doing what he is supposed to be doing means just that.
As does the undisputed point that the backups are what he says they are.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:50 am
# jhill Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 10:33 am
Rich,
Without the generic comments, what would all the read between the liners be left with?
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LOL..well..things would be slower, that’s for sure.
Every once in a blue moon you hear a coach honest as hell, stating exactly what someone needs to do, while letting everyone, including that person know the outcome if he doesn’t..and it’s refreshing.
Living in the bay area, all the sports casts go back and forth between raiders/niners..and hearing Singletary talk?
Guy speaks exactly what he feels..and that’s how it should be.
You hear him call someone out that EVERYONE knows didn’t get it done. No tiptoeing around..no innuendos, no double meanings.
Saw him numerous times go up to linemen, during games, and kick their ass, calling them out for bad play…then saw him go up to the same guys later, and quietly state ‘that’s exactly what I knew you could do. Do it again”.
Cable should learn from that..instead of holding everyone’s hand, making excuses for everyone, while never DEMANDING more.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:50 am
Jhill: who cares about bench reps at the combine?
Trevor Scott did 32 & Gerard Warren did 29
so whats your point?
you think Warren is better than McCoy will be in the pros? haha.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:50 am
Who did he say the backups are?
He said there will be an open competition between all the guys that are here already, and maybe even someone else.
Doesn’t sound like he knows who any of the backups will be.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:52 am
We are supposed to be filling Warren’s spot with a real NT that can hold the point and take up 2 blockers. Just asking which one of these guys is the 4-3 NT you had in mind?
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I listed 6 guys besides Suh & McCoy …
what more did you expect?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:52 am
# Nnamdi21 Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 10:38 am
All the pre draft speculation on what the Raiders SHOULD do in the draft means nothing when Alison is pulling the trigger.
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Might be the first time EVER that I agree with you…
Ok…maybe the second time.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:53 am
These are going to be the most interesting of preseason games.
I suspect this “competition” will remain open throughout most of the pre-season, and could come down to the very last game.
Exciting stuff!!! Beats the heck out of watching the games for the unintenional comedy of hearing Atkinson speak.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:56 am
doing what he’s supposed to = showing up with his cronies all iced up at a b-ball game, trips to Vegas & being crowned king elexis at a mardi gras festival ???
I don’t think Cable cares what Russell is doing this offseason, because he’s already moved on.
If the season started today JR would be 3rd or 4th string. sorry if thats considered “reading between the lines”. this is a friggin blog for crying out loud. it’s meant for opinion and debate
March 1st, 2010 at 11:02 am
lunch!
March 1st, 2010 at 11:04 am
I want a guy named before training camp. Let one guy have most of the snaps. Training camp QB competitions are such BS. Just ask Charlie Frye.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:07 am
McCoy stocks r dropping, he only completed 23 reps benching 225. That’s like a TE or a RB, I remember Brady Quinn had similar to that. Dez Bryant is also falling I don’t know what’s going on but I have feeling it’s other agents involved in it, Dez was solid WR but it’s scary to hear he needs a babysitter 247
March 1st, 2010 at 11:22 am
“I don’t think Cable cares what Russell is doing this offseason, because he’s already moved on.”
Agreed 100%.
I think Cable got into Al’s ear. Cable wasn’t very good when it came to personell decisions (granted DHB, Russell and probably a few others were untouchable early on), but at least he convinced Al Russell sucks.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:24 am
RaiderDebo Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 11:04 am
I want a guy named before training camp. Let one guy have most of the snaps. Training camp QB competitions are such BS. Just ask Charlie Frye.
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Funny, but I have the feeling if Bruce was named the starter you would be crying for competition.
I want competition. Let the best man win. What’s the harm in that?
March 1st, 2010 at 11:27 am
a lot of trash thrown at Crabtree too 4eve. especially prior to the draft.
looks like he’ll be solid for SF next year. came on strong late last season
March 1st, 2010 at 11:29 am
Holy crap…did Cable really say that Javon Walker didn’t play because of the emergence of the young receivers? As I recall, Schilens was out half the season, JLH wasn’t near the same after taking the monster hit, and DHB was truly awful then got hurt.
So somehow someway in all that Cable couldn’t find a way to play Walker? Right…
March 1st, 2010 at 11:31 am
From David White:
The other restricted free agents are quarterback Charlie Frye, Pro Bowl long snapper Jon Condo, free safety Hiram Eugene, offensive tackle Khalif Barnes, center/guard Chris Morris, cornerback Stanford Routt, running back Gary Russell, fullback Luke Lawton, linebacker Ricky Brown and linebacker Jon Alston.
Outside of Condo, who cares if any of these m’fers walk.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:31 am
I GOT THE POPCORN!
March 1st, 2010 at 11:34 am
So somehow someway in all that Cable couldn’t find a way to play Walker? Right…
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I’m not buying that either MadBomber. I think Javon was clearly in Al’s doghouse after getting surgery in the offseason without even telling anybody until OTA’s when he showed up at less than 100 percent …
March 1st, 2010 at 11:34 am
From MMQB:
But the most sobering note about Campbell came from Gil Brandt, who helped invent the event years ago and works it every year for the NFL. Brandt said Campbell hadn’t received a single all-conference-team vote last year. If a guy’s a first-round prospect, would he unanimously NOT be all-conference? I’m not saying the sculpted 6-foot-6, 314-pound Campbell won’t be a good player, but he’s sounding like a Raider pick to me. Great athlete, questionable production — like last year’s Terp picked first by Oakland, wideout Darrius Heyward-Bey.
“I know I didn’t get any honors,” Campbell said, “but I feel my self-accomplishments were better than winning a medal or anything else.”
What, exactly, is a self-accomplishment?
March 1st, 2010 at 11:35 am
Cable would get more respect if he just replied: “Apparently Javon PO’ed Al. When he’s out of Al’s doghouse, you’ll know.”
March 1st, 2010 at 11:36 am
LA to TheBay: whats up brother?
have a good weekend?
who do you think we should draft?
any specific names or just positions?
March 1st, 2010 at 11:41 am
What, exactly, is a self-accomplishment?
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ever heard of Stuart Smalley?
I’m Good Enough, I’m Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like Me!
March 1st, 2010 at 11:44 am
The other restricted free agents are quarterback Charlie Frye, Pro Bowl long snapper Jon Condo, free safety Hiram Eugene, offensive tackle Khalif Barnes, center/guard Chris Morris, cornerback Stanford Routt, running back Gary Russell, fullback Luke Lawton, linebacker Ricky Brown and linebacker Jon Alston.
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Ottocrat: I’d like to keep Condo as well.
Frye, Routt & Brown can come back and play for peanuts if nobody else wants them in free agency. every team needs depth
March 1st, 2010 at 11:54 am
Terrell Owens, who will turn 37 in December, caught 55 passes for 829 yards and five touchdowns in his only season in Buffalo. He also ran for a touchdown.
“I would like to thank the great fans in Buffalo, Ralph Wilson & the Bills organization for all their supports this past season,” Owens said on Twitter.
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He got a 1-year, $6.5 million contract last year. not bad stats considering Edwards/Fitzpatrick at QB …
Bills OL gave up 46 sacks last year (only 3 less than ours) and they fired their OC just before the season started.
Would he be worth a 1-year, $5 million contract this year?
March 1st, 2010 at 11:58 am
Raiders coach Tom Cable has made it clear he wants quarterback Bruce Gradkowski back next season to compete with JaMarcus Russell for the starting job.
Quarterback Bruce Gradkowski expects a second-round tender from the Raiders.
The next step is to assign a tender to the restricted free agent by Thursday’s deadline. In lieu of a long-term deal, the Raiders intend to assign a second-round tender to Gradkowski.
Cable told as much to Gradkowski’s agent during a meeting at the NFL Combine. Once it happens, the Raiders have the right to match any contract offer tendered by another team or accept a second-round draft pick in return for losing Gradkowski. If he signs the tender, he gets $1.759 million for one year.
That should all but ensure Gradkowski is back. As well as he played as a brief starter for the Raiders, it isn’t likely a team will give up a second-round pick for a quarterback coming off a season-ending knee injury who has played on three teams in three years.
-David White (SF Gate)
March 1st, 2010 at 12:02 pm
the Raiders have 13 restricted free agents, including the People’s Quarterback Bruce Gradkowski and fallen-out-of-favor linebackers-in-arms Thomas Howard and Kirk Morrison.
-Paul Gutierrez (Sac Bee)
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draft a real NT so Thomas & Kirk can silence the haters!
March 1st, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Raider O: Paul G called Bruce “the people’s QB”
LOL!
what do you think of the Rocky Balboa “the people’s champ” reference?
YOU PEOPLE love Bruce Gradkowski. haha
March 1st, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Who was the wrestler who called himself the people’s champion?
March 1st, 2010 at 12:22 pm
That should all but ensure Gradkowski is back. As well as he played as a brief starter for the Raiders, it isn’t likely a team will give up a second-round pick for a quarterback coming off a season-ending knee injury who has played on three teams in three years.
-David White (SF Gate)
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If there wasn’t a pending lockout in 2010, there would be zero chance that a team would give up a 2nd for him.
With a lockout in 2010, it opens up the slight chance a team might consider it.
March 1st, 2010 at 12:25 pm
There you go Vegas …
2nd rd tender for Bruce.
Wonder if the Rams or Cleveland will be interested? 2nd rd pick for a starter? At QB? Not a bad deal, eh?
March 1st, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Michael Bush is “generating interest” in trade talks, according to Mike Lombardi of the National Football Post.
Bush would be a great fit as a power back in San Diego’s system, but Al Davis would probably never move him to an in-division foe. Lombardi says the only Raider that isn’t available for trade is tight end Zach Miller.
Source: National Football Post
March 1st, 2010 at 12:26 pm
it isn’t likely a team will give up a second-round pick for a quarterback coming off a season-ending knee injury who has played on three teams in three years.
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Damn. Three teams in three years. Didn’t know it was that bad. And if Bruce was ever named the starter, I’d be fine with it even though I want JR to be the guy. With all the haters like RR and Vegas in the stands, it might end up being better for JR in the long run. The 1st four or five games with Vegas’ 1st-ballot HOFer will look a lot like the Thanksgiving Dallas game and all the haters will be begging for JR.
March 1st, 2010 at 12:30 pm
The 1st four or five games with Vegas’ 1st-ballot HOFer will look a lot like the Thanksgiving Dallas game and all the haters will be begging for JR.
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Sounds like you are openly rooting against him
March 1st, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Who was the wrestler who called himself the people’s champion?
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Vegas: the Rock ?
March 1st, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Michael Bush is “generating interest” in trade talks, according to Mike Lombardi of the National Football Post.
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thanks for the info, crack!
I wonder what the asking price is?
March 1st, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Yes Bruce’s worst day in Dallas, resulted in a 18/35 200 yards passing, 1 TD and no int’s.
Sounds like a banner day for Russell!!!
March 1st, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Looking at the Dallas box score.
We had two kick returns, one by Gary Russell for 15 yards, one by Tony Stweart for 11 yards.
3 punt returns for JLH, for a total of 3 yards.
This must be upgraded!!!!
March 1st, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Debo: the only way i’ll be begging for JR is if he outplays the other QB’s in OTA’s, camp & preseason and then hits the bench for the season opener
that’ll mean he’s in the doghouse regardless of performance like Javon Walker. this type of treatment is wrong imo. it’s like holding the team hostage.
you play your best players, regardless of pay or draft status.
best player is JaMarcus? awesome. he’s not a bust!
best player is Bruce? fine. start him!
best player is Charlie? crap. we should have drafted somebody!
March 1st, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Michael Bush is “generating interest” in trade talks, according to Mike Lombardi of the National Football Post.
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thanks for the info, crack!
I wonder what the asking price is?
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Any time bro!!!
March 1st, 2010 at 12:46 pm
1- OT Williams, Davis, or Campbell. (I like to see what cable cab do with him)
2- DT L Houston: 6′3, 305, and ran 4.85 40!
3- trade 3rd & 5th to move up the 2nd to draft B Spikes.
We need all three players. We can move kirk to OLB and resign him, or resign TH.
Do it Al!!
Legalize it!
Later Nation.
March 1st, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Raider O!
Bruce = the people’s QB!
your thoughts?
March 1st, 2010 at 12:47 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Yes Bruce’s worst day in Dallas, resulted in a 18/35 200 yards passing, 1 TD and no int’s.
Sounds like a banner day for Russell!!!
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You’re so funny Vegas! Don’t know if that was HOFer’s worst day in his career, but I didn’t need stats that day to see that from the 1st time we got the ball, it was clear that he was overmatched. Again, I’ll say that in football, stats are for losers. We were shut out until the end of the 3rd qtr! Who cares what his stats were?????
March 1st, 2010 at 12:52 pm
I have to go, but Noodle arm GarbageKowski is not the answer!
Damn you Mich!!
lol
I almost Forgot, BOO!
March 1st, 2010 at 12:52 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 11:36 am
LA to TheBay: whats up brother?
have a good weekend?
who do you think we should draft?
any specific names or just positions?
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Very nice, thank u sir. How’s the weather in Podunk? Possum season comin up soon, lol.
No names, specifically. I could name who I like, but Al is looking for what Al looks for. Bruce Campbell seems pretty likely at this point unless one of the premium DTs is on the board still.
I’m of the mind we draft NT, ILB, G, G, RT, QB, CB/KR, FB, WR/KR. Maybe sub one of those for a real SSLB if we address one or more of those positions in FA.
It’s a shame really, seeing as how we really need a QB, RB, and WR too (Thanks Al!), though with Grads coming back and maybe a rookie in the mid rounds, Bush getting more carries (if not traded), and Chaz healthy and Murphy on the rise, the lines are a much higher priority, as is LB.
March 1st, 2010 at 12:53 pm
stats are for losers.
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Debo: way to quote Pats HC Bill Belichick!
you got one of his signature hooded sweatshirts as well?
March 1st, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Gangstakowski is the Answer if Jamarcus Russell is the Question.
March 1st, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 28th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
# Thec07 Says:
February 28, 2010 at 11:31 pm
Makes sense to me. If Mr. davis was paying me in some way shape or form i would defend also…lol
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No, I’m not paid by the Raiders. But, if you asked me my own history, I graduated with a four year degree at 20, bought a house at 19 which is paid off, had a public corporation at 26, and I do what I want from the age of 29 on. The question still stands….what have you ever done?
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Wow, Seymour Bush….you just proved to be an even bigger jerk and douche than what most us already thought before.
The thing is NOBODY asked you what you did….ya Douche….and guess what….NOBODY gives a crap!
We all have our own little ego building uccess stories in some way shape or form and we all have our own screw ups.
So, in the final analysis….you “may” have graduated when you were 20….and you “may” bought a house at 19 and allegedly paid it off…(i wonder if mommy and daddy might have paid if off for you hmm?) and you “may” have a successful corporation in a down economy no less?
Howvever, by divulging all this to us on here WITHOUT anyone asking and NOBODY on here CARING…..shows your not very bright and not very mature either are you?
Ya Idiot….
March 1st, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Cable said lines and secondary, so don’t be surprised to see us take Eric Berry at 8 and make some sort of trade (player or pick) to grab Campbell in the mid to late first, 2nd if he slides.
Maybe go after ILB and grab an OT in later rounds.
Cable gets what he wants this year, I think. O Line and D Line and MLB. Al gets his next shutdown CB project and maybe that Ford kid who had the fastest 40 time and everyone’s happy.
March 1st, 2010 at 12:58 pm
How’s the weather in Podunk? Possum season comin up soon, lol.
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mis 40’s and sunny all week. awesome!
possum season? no such thing. if you see one, kill it
never ate possum. did have BBQ Raccoon before though. tasted pretty good actually
turkey season coming up the last weekend in April. I may not get to see Al Davis pull the trigger on Bruce Campbell or Jacoby Ford!
March 1st, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Raider O Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 12:52 pm
I have to go, but Noodle arm GarbageKowski is not the answer!
Damn you Mich!!
lol
I almost Forgot, BOO!
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I don’t think anyone has concluded Grads is the answer at QB….but is there anyone better than him on the current roster??
Sadly….there isn’t…
March 1st, 2010 at 1:00 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 12:53 pm
stats are for losers.
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Debo: way to quote Pats HC Bill Belichick!
you got one of his signature hooded sweatshirts as well?
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No…drafting height, weight, speed track stars who ahead of REAL instinctive and tough FOOTBALL players is for LOSERS!
March 1st, 2010 at 1:00 pm
“…see Al Davis pull the trigger on Bruce Campbell or Jacoby Ford!”
Lol, so its not just me who sees this as a forgone conclusion.
Cable could use the most athletic (combine)OT ever and I don’t know if Al can resist the fasted 40 time for an O Lineman or the fastest 40 time period.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Cable gets what he wants this year, I think. O Line and D Line and MLB.
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LA to TheBay: when did Cable say we need a new MLB, or any LB for that matter?
March 1st, 2010 at 1:02 pm
“No…drafting height, weight, speed track stars who ahead of REAL instinctive and tough FOOTBALL players is for LOSERS!”
For what it’s worth, Cable addressed that notion and said they would take the best football player available and this stuff doesn’t neccecarily equal a good football player.
I’m sure this will apply in rounds 3-7. Hard to believe for the first two.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:03 pm
DKnight007 Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 28th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
# Thec07 Says:
February 28, 2010 at 11:31 pm
Makes sense to me. If Mr. davis was paying me in some way shape or form i would defend also…lol
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No, I’m not paid by the Raiders. But, if you asked me my own history, I graduated with a four year degree at 20, bought a house at 19 which is paid off, had a public corporation at 26, and I do what I want from the age of 29 on. The question still stands….what have you ever done?
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Wow, Seymour Bush….you just proved to be an even bigger jerk and douche than what most us already thought before.
The thing is NOBODY asked you what you did….ya Douche….and guess what….NOBODY gives a crap!
We all have our own little ego building uccess stories in some way shape or form and we all have our own screw ups.
So, in the final analysis….you “may” have graduated when you were 20….and you “may” bought a house at 19 and allegedly paid it off…(i wonder if mommy and daddy might have paid if off for you hmm?) and you “may” have a successful corporation in a down economy no less?
Howvever, by divulging all this to us on here WITHOUT anyone asking and NOBODY on here CARING…..shows your not very bright and not very mature either are you?
Ya Idiot….
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Yep……
March 1st, 2010 at 1:03 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 10:27 am
we’ll have a chance to upgrade the interior D-Line in Rounds 1 & 2 in the draft …
Dan Williams (DT Tennessee) 6′2″ 329 lbs
Brian Price (DT UCLA) 6′2″ 300 lbs
Terrence Cody (DT Alabama) 6′4″ 354 lbs
Lamarr Houston (DT Texas) 6′3″ 302 lbs
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Lamarr Houston in Round 2 would be a great pick!
March 1st, 2010 at 1:03 pm
LA to TheBay: when did Cable say we need a new MLB, or any LB for that matter?
He told us in camp last year when he had Morrison splitting time with Ricky.
Just my opinion, but I don’t think Cable or anyone is sold on Kirk in the middle.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:03 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 12:53 pm
stats are for losers.
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Debo: way to quote Pats HC Bill Belichick!
you got one of his signature hooded sweatshirts as well?
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That’s funny. I was actually quoting Mike Tomlin. Didn’t know Belicheat said it too. Lol.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Epic clown, and less rookie blogger…. Not even a semi pro…..lol
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March 1st, 2010 at 1:05 pm
I don’t recall Cable/Al saying we needed a WR last year.
Hmmmmmm
March 1st, 2010 at 1:06 pm
these folks round here in tenn and neighboring miss eat possum and coon and goat and errthang all the time. so i asked them will they eat a rottweiller ? they acted like i was crazy!!!!!
March 1st, 2010 at 1:08 pm
I agree with DKnight007 & Thec.
Sey Bush seems like a cool guy for the most part, but I could care less what he does for a living.
Doesn’t have anything to do with Raiders or even football knowledge. Now if you’re a Sports Writer like Jerry, former pro athlete or scout I might be willing to take your job status into consideration.
for instance, BSJ is Danny Southwick’s agent
March 1st, 2010 at 1:10 pm
I don’t recall Cable/Al saying we needed a WR last year.
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I said it!
and this year i’m saying it has to be OT or DT in Round 1.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:13 pm
OT in round 1 with a question; No DHB, no projects,
No 40 times, no workour warriors. Take the best Olinemen available at 8.
Move our 2nd pick up, and take the center pouncey.
Pick 3 take a G…..
4th pick take the QB Dan Lefevour….
March 1st, 2010 at 1:14 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 1:02 pm
“No…drafting height, weight, speed track stars who ahead of REAL instinctive and tough FOOTBALL players is for LOSERS!”
For what it’s worth, Cable addressed that notion and said they would take the best football player available and this stuff doesn’t neccecarily equal a good football player.
I’m sure this will apply in rounds 3-7. Hard to believe for the first two.
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Hard to believe what Cable says….because last year at the combine he was enamored with the OT “cadillacs”….and then guess what happened? They went on and did the stupidest move in the draft and picked DHB at #8.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:14 pm
That’s funny. I was actually quoting Mike Tomlin.
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Debo: if the Steelers would have beat us last year your boy Mike Tomlin would have made the playoffs …
good thing we had the People’s QB!
that 4th quarter was a thing of beauty
March 1st, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Oline
LT Henderson/ Okung,Davis,Williams
LG Gallery
C Pouncey
RG Barnes/ Rookie
LG Henderson/ Okung,Davis,Williams
Vote no on the project campbell, not pro ready a project not what we need….
March 1st, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Thec07 Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 1:13 pm
OT in round 1 with a question; No DHB, no projects,
No 40 times, no workour warriors. Take the best Olinemen available at 8.
Move our 2nd pick up, and take the center pouncey.
Pick 3 take a G…..
4th pick take the QB Dan Lefevour….
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I would like to see one of those 3rd round picks on that beast MLB Micah Johnson!
March 1st, 2010 at 1:16 pm
# Thec07 Says:
February 28, 2010 at 11:31 pm
Makes sense to me. If Mr. davis was paying me in some way shape or form i would defend also…lol
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No, I’m not paid by the Raiders. But, if you asked me my own history, I graduated with a four year degree at 20, bought a house at 19 which is paid off, had a public corporation at 26, and I do what I want from the age of 29 on. The question still stands….what have you ever done?
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Wow, Seymour Bush….you just proved to be an even bigger jerk and douche than what most us already thought before.
The thing is NOBODY asked you what you did….ya Douche….and guess what….NOBODY gives a crap!
We all have our own little ego building uccess stories in some way shape or form and we all have our own screw ups.
So, in the final analysis….you “may” have graduated when you were 20….and you “may” bought a house at 19 and allegedly paid it off…(i wonder if mommy and daddy might have paid if off for you hmm?) and you “may” have a successful corporation in a down economy no less?
Howvever, by divulging all this to us on here WITHOUT anyone asking and NOBODY on here CARING…..shows your not very bright and not very mature either are you?
What an Idiot…
March 1st, 2010 at 1:17 pm
for instance, BSJ is Danny Southwick’s agent
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SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 1st, 2010 at 1:18 pm
I said it!
and this year i’m saying it has to be OT or DT in Round 1.
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LOL! Ok, you said it.
Regarding OT/DT, I don’t know about taking the 3rd best player at OT or DT if the #1 guy at other positions of need are available.
Sounds like Cable likes Henderson at LT so we can get a guy like Ciron Black to play RT in rd 2 or 3.
I also like a guy like Lamar Houston in Rd 2.
I think I like Williams from Tenn over Suh and McCoy for our defense. Trying to be realistic in that I know Kelly isn’t going anywhere and he is our 3 technique. Williams would be nice next to Kelly.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Hard to believe what Cable says….because last year at the combine he was enamored with the OT “cadillacs”….and then guess what happened? They went on and did the stupidest move in the draft and picked DHB at #8.
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for all we know Cable was lobbying hard for one of those OT’s. Davis probably just pulled the rug from underneath him and drafted Heyward-Bey anyways, like how he saddled Kiffin with JaMarcus …
what was Cable supposed to say? “i wanted Monroe, but I don’t make the calls” haha. He toted the company line and said “We wanted DHB all along”, but what he meant was HE (not we) wanted DHB all along…
March 1st, 2010 at 1:19 pm
What would be acceptable #s for DHB next year?
March 1st, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Funny how Cable didn’t mention RT when asked about offensive tackles. Barnes?
Could be subterfuge…
March 1st, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Here we go with the probably’s and between the lines stuff again, lol.
Tell me, how do you know what to take at face value from Cable vs what needs an interpretation?
March 1st, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Dknight007, that guy is a Epic clown….
March 1st, 2010 at 1:22 pm
30-40 catches 700 yards 7 TD’s
March 1st, 2010 at 1:23 pm
I also like a guy like Lamar Houston in Rd 2.
I think I like Williams from Tenn over Suh and McCoy for our defense. Trying to be realistic in that I know Kelly isn’t going anywhere and he is our 3 technique. Williams would be nice next to Kelly.
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thats what I’m talkin’ about Jhill!
hoohah!!
a real NT benefits the entire defense. then if Kirk isn’t cut out for the MLB job so be it. replace both if need be. I just don’t see a rookie MLB like McClain or Spikes being successful behind humpty & dumpty (Warren & Kelly)
McClain & Houston? bring the pain!
Williams & Morrison (mine). Top 10 overall defense
March 1st, 2010 at 1:24 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 1:14 pm
That’s funny. I was actually quoting Mike Tomlin.
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Debo: if the Steelers would have beat us last year your boy Mike Tomlin would have made the playoffs …
good thing we had the People’s QB!
that 4th quarter was a thing of beauty
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Was a fun one to watch. Did exactly what you want your backup qb to do.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:26 pm
I think it is HILARIOUS that some of these writers are trying to get their name our there with this Al loves speed so Bruce Campbell is the pick business.
Where is Al Davis’ history of love for speed on the OLINE????
March 1st, 2010 at 1:26 pm
I think Bruce Campbell is on HGH, he is from Maryland Uni just like Vernon Davis, Shawn Merriman and DHB. NCAA should investigate this program, there might be a connection between physical beast player like Campbell, Merriman, Davis and HGH. DHB might not been in the juice but who says skinny dudes don’t take any juice. Wasn’t Ben Johnson skinny and didn’t he take steroids? Hmm, I don’t want any player from Maryland Uni, Bruce Campbell is a beast but he never dominated and was injured many games, that sounds like juice to me. AL avoid this guy, if Okung is not there, draft Dez even though he has question marks.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:27 pm
What would be acceptable #s for DHB next year?
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as Cable puts it, due to the emergence of Schilens, Higgins & Murphy along with Zach Miller & DMC in the passing game I think 34 catches, 521 yards & 4 TD’s with fewer than 5 drops would be more than ok soph season for Darrius “the decoy” Heyward-Bey
March 1st, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Stay clear of Bruce campbell, go with someone who we can plug in right now….
Okung
Davis
Williams
Okung will be gone, Flip a coin between Davis, Williams. all 3 have proven track record, not 40 times
or work out freak specimen types….
March 1st, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Avoid Dez Bryant. Too many “motivation” issues.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:34 pm
We dont go Oline this draft we wil be saying the same thing next year …..thats after we go 5-11….
March 1st, 2010 at 1:36 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 1:27 pm
What would be acceptable #s for DHB next year?
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as Cable puts it, due to the emergence of Schilens, Higgins & Murphy along with Zach Miller & DMC in the passing game I think 34 catches, 521 yards & 4 TD’s with fewer than 5 drops would be more than ok soph season for Darrius “the decoy” Heyward-Bey
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Wow.
#8 pick in the draft.
2nd year.
2 catches per game?
35 yds per game?
1 td every 4 games?
AND THAT WOULD BE MORE THAN OK???
Again…wow.
Those numbers he should be benched FOR GOOD.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:36 pm
this team is not built for trench warfare, furthermore we only have 2 stand up guys of note….
Trench Warfare only, F a skill player at this point….
March 1st, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Mt Cody is NOT a guy we need ANYWHERE near our team. Dude almost hit 6 second on the 40 lol!
March 1st, 2010 at 1:39 pm
I would take cody with the second pick…
March 1st, 2010 at 1:41 pm
can the 40 be walked in 6 secs? The guy did lose a bunch of weight though….
6 sec, wow….
March 1st, 2010 at 1:41 pm
So, what is more important for our first pick? Do we go defensive line or offensive line?
March 1st, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Oline all the way….
But knowing how we roll, it will be the punter from laney or chabot JC…
March 1st, 2010 at 1:44 pm
I don’t have a problem with open competition for the starting QB spot. Otherwise how on earth could you motivate JaMarcus to start acting like he’s worth $60m?
I guess from Cable’s comments that we are likely to bring back Gradknowski and either or both of Frye and Losman. Losman has the most talent, the best arm but he’s never really delivered.
I also suspect that we might take a QB between the 3rd and 5th rounds. Jarrett Brown looks the best project but he might not last until our second pick in the 3rd. Likewise Jevan Snead. I think Zac Robinson (Oklahoma State) or Jonathan Crompton (Tennessee) are more likely. The best value will be Ryan Perrilloux – he has first round talent but, assuming Hue can wire the kid’s brain, he will be there in the seventh round.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:45 pm
I dunno Rich,
I dont think it was intended for DHB to be a “feature” receiver. I think Chaz and Miller will be the initial reads.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:46 pm
I wouldnt mind seeing Dan Henderson (TENN) lined up with Seymore.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:49 pm
GRIM, you mean Dan Williams? He’ll probably be gone between 12 and 20 in the first. He was a star for Kiff and Monte last year. He might be a (small) reach at 8.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:49 pm
So with all the juniors coming out this year because of the planned rookie changes, has no one given any thought to the draft next year.
The draft class is going to be so terrible, the top 10 picks will probably be 2nd rounders in most drafts.
Meaning that we barely gave up anything for Seymour and that Al Davis is a genius!
March 1st, 2010 at 1:51 pm
Our players need to be developed, “baby steps” Question remains who is doing the development???
March 1st, 2010 at 1:53 pm
maddenraiderfan Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 1:49 pm
So with all the juniors coming out this year because of the planned rookie changes, has no one given any thought to the draft next year.
The draft class is going to be so terrible, the top 10 picks will probably be 2nd rounders in most drafts.
Meaning that we barely gave up anything for Seymour and that Al Davis is a genius!
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This years draft is a deep and good draft class IMO!
Next years will not be….
March 1st, 2010 at 1:54 pm
MRF, 2011 won’t be that bad – Locker, Luck and Mallett will go high and there are some good WRs. Fewer good OTs – which is why we have to take one of Okung, Campbell or Bulaga.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:55 pm
I dont entirely agree with the draft pool droping off. You have a lot of sophs that could come out now that cant because of the existing NFL rule.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Okung, Davis, or Williams
March 1st, 2010 at 1:57 pm
Haha, ya I meant Williams. Where the hell did I come up with Henderson? Oh well, good catch Scottish.
March 1st, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Also, we should draft Ryan Perrilloux in the 7th.
March 1st, 2010 at 2:02 pm
GRIM, Dan Williams is possibly the safest bet in the draft. If we could trade down seven slots, pick up a mid 2nd (as per value chart) and get Williams – that would be smart business:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2410670
March 1st, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Thec07 Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Stay clear of Bruce campbell, go with someone who we can plug in right now….
Okung
Davis
Williams
Okung will be gone, Flip a coin between Davis, Williams. all 3 have proven track record, not 40 times
or work out freak specimen types….
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Actually, williams ran the 40 in about .03 more than
campbell. some think williams will grade out as a RT prospect only. I’m fine with that. Right now I’m leaning more towards williams over davis or campbell
March 1st, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Are we discussing a NT’s 40 time?
March 1st, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Too further expound on that thought about Davis trading our first from 2011 to the Patriots. Al also knew that we would be playing the NFC West in 2011 also. Ya That ole dummy Al.
March 1st, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Cody is a run-stuffer. Will play 60% of the snaps. Who cares if he’s slow? Oh wait, I forgot who our owner is…
Nevermind.
Carry on.
March 1st, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Is it just me, or does Mel Kiper look like the count from sesame street?
March 1st, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Midwest, agreed. williams had a really good combine.
March 1st, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Jets to release RB Thomas Jones this week.
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wow. can’t believe Mike Bush still has trade value with Tomlinson, Sproles, Westbrook & Jones in free agency …
Edgerrin James, Leon Washington, Chester Taylor & Willie Parker too. not getting as much press though.
March 1st, 2010 at 2:28 pm
kiper<——-Count Chocula….
March 1st, 2010 at 2:29 pm
RR, Yeah Those guys are part of the ‘Overthehill gang”
Sproles is getting lots of Run, last heard washington. SD dischargers a stuupid team with sub par fan base…
March 1st, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Heyward-Bey
rookie: 9 catches, 124 yards & 1 TD. 6 drops in 11 games
soph: 34 catches, 521 yards & 4 TD’s. 5 drops in 16 games
Ricky, that would be considered SIGNIFICANT improvement imo.
Especially if Schilens, Higgins, Murphy, Miller & McFadden can stay healthy and get involved …
March 1st, 2010 at 2:35 pm
jeff owens Dt from Georgia 44 reps..is he the next Grant Irons?
March 1st, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Braylon Edwards & Brad Smith = RFA’s
Thomas Jones & Leon Washington = UFA’s
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think we could trade McFadden & Heyward-Bey to NY for their late 1st rounder ???
then we could draft Pouncey!
March 1st, 2010 at 2:56 pm
jeff owens Dt from Georgia 44 reps..is he the next Grant Irons?
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Owens did not have a dominant college season in his return from a season-ending knee injury in 2008. As a result, NFL people wondered if he would ever get back to being the player he was before the injury. Owens erased many of those concerns by shining at Mobile.
He dominated at the point of attack with strength, hand use and the explosiveness to jolt blockers. But what grabbed the NFL’s attention most was Owens’ ability to beat one-on-one pass blocks with very quick pass-rush moves. Before the Senior Bowl, Owens was considered a likely third- or fourth-round pick. Now, he is viewed as a definite second-rounder, with a good chance to move into the first round.
http://blogs.ajc.com/uga-sports-blog/2010/01/31/former-dogs-owens-and-atkins-first-round-picks/
March 1st, 2010 at 3:01 pm
6′3″ 306 lbs and puts up 44 reps on the bench?
not bad, but Jeff Owens was a 4th rounder before the Senior Bowl and has a bum knee
knee probs can effect young DT’s in a big way. (see Ellis & Dorsey for example)
Raji (ankle) was nowhere to be found last year either
March 1st, 2010 at 3:02 pm
5pm in Podunk. later gents!
March 1st, 2010 at 3:04 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 2:56 pm
jeff owens Dt from Georgia 44 reps..is he the next Grant Irons?
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Owens did not have a dominant college season in his return from a season-ending knee injury in 2008. As a result, NFL people wondered if he would ever get back to being the player he was before the injury. Owens erased many of those concerns by shining at Mobile.
He dominated at the point of attack with strength, hand use and the explosiveness to jolt blockers. But what grabbed the NFL’s attention most was Owens’ ability to beat one-on-one pass blocks with very quick pass-rush moves. Before the Senior Bowl, Owens was considered a likely third- or fourth-round pick. Now, he is viewed as a definite second-rounder, with a good chance to move into the first round.
http://blogs.ajc.com/uga-sports-blog/2010/01/31/former-dogs-owens-and-atkins-first-round-picks/
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Geno Atkins is gonna be a decent to good football player as well IMO. His stock has been rising.
March 1st, 2010 at 3:45 pm
starting qb? LET THE BEST MAN WIN.
March 1st, 2010 at 3:53 pm
“starting qb? LET THE BEST MAN WIN.”
Gangstakowski will not dissapoint.
March 1st, 2010 at 4:02 pm
Cable: The first thing we need to do is get better at taking care of the football offensively.
Which means don’t give the ball to Jamarcus.
March 1st, 2010 at 4:03 pm
Clausen over Juggs Russell anyday of the week!
March 1st, 2010 at 4:15 pm
The Raiders should be targeting Dan Williams. They need a space clogger not necessarily a pass rusher. I would take Williams over Suh and McCoy for what the Raiders need. If Mt. Cody, even with his 5.6 40x is available in the 2nd round…you take him.
Also noted that Michael Bush is again in trade rumors with teams that actually know what they are doing.
Any rumors about Fargas or McFadden?
March 1st, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Good evening (7:17pm here in Virginia), Raiders fans! How is everyone today and what are the topics at hand?
March 1st, 2010 at 4:18 pm
“Any rumors about Fargas or McFadden?”
Why would they? Crash Test Dummy and McFelldown are roll players here and nobody wants them.
Cody would be nice. Williams would be great. Suh would be better.
P.S. I’m disappointed in my spelling of dissapoint.
March 1st, 2010 at 4:22 pm
I’m pretty sure Cody will be there for us in the 2nd round.
March 1st, 2010 at 4:25 pm
I think that Al should let his personal physicians/alchemists that have kept him reanimated for so long take a shot at our backs. Think about it… a little genetic manipulation so that we could somehow combine Bush’s size and power; McFadden’s speed and receiving ability; and Fargas’s engine and ability to NOT fumble. Such a FrankenBack would be the greatest thing ever. Al has the technology… I’m sure of it.
JUST GENE-SPLICE AND CLONE, BABY!
March 1st, 2010 at 4:26 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 4:18 pm
“Any rumors about Fargas or McFadden?”
Why would they? Crash Test Dummy and McFelldown are roll players here and nobody wants them.
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Tell that to many in here. People think Fargas and DMAC are a better option than Bush when truth is Bush is the best back we’ve got. Also send that message to Tom Cable and his infinite offensive wisdom.
March 1st, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Vegas,
The Raiders need to something up the middle. They need someone up front that gets in the way and can push the offensive line. This defense will be terrible until they address this issue. To me, this is the #1 issue on this defense. Teams don’t bother passing because they know that every 10 runs is going to result in a long long run.
Get me a real DT please!
March 1st, 2010 at 4:36 pm
And now for that All-Time favorite, voted by many the greatest song ever -
I can’t get no Offenselinemen
…and I tried and I tried and I tried (in ‘08 and ‘09)
but I still can’t get no Offenselinemen
the yellow snow of the skill positions will gleam sun-drenched and pristine with some big ugly mofos who can block.
March 1st, 2010 at 4:43 pm
If Bush could get a few lessons from whoever taught Tiki better ball-security, I would endorse him as our every-down back. I’m from Kentucky and a major UK fan, so I was well-aware of that Louisville product for his entire career (and dreaded every game we played against him). I hated that he shattered that leg, but was glad that he’d miss the game against us. Nevertheless, I was certain that he’d be a first-rounder the first time I saw him play… and thought he’d be late second round even AFTER the injury. I was ecstatic that we got him in the fourth… and with the exception of that lone knock (fumbles), I have nothing bad to say about him.
Bush in ‘10!!! (with DMC in a split-back set, then motioning out to the slot/wing or just running a pattern… if Bush is willing to stay in and block in that situation on passing downs… if not, then screw it, we’ll go single-back, double-tight and have Bush by himself with DMC being a situational back/slot receiver). I love Fargas’s attitude, drive, and hard-nosed style… but he’s just not productive enough from down to down. DMC has so much potential, but he tackles himself and then strips the ball from himself on the way down so often that I can’t see him being the guy until he fixes his fundamentals.
March 1st, 2010 at 4:45 pm
SnB,
I do agree that we need more beef in the middle. Mt. Cody would be a real good fit, IMO, because while I think he is only a situational player in the NFL, those “situations” are what we sorely miss.
With all that said, say the Lions say they will trade us #2, for #8, a 3rd this year and a 2nd next year, would you do it and take Suh?
March 1st, 2010 at 4:46 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 4:15 pm
The Raiders should be targeting Dan Williams. They need a space clogger not necessarily a pass rusher. I would take Williams over Suh and McCoy for what the Raiders need. If Mt. Cody, even with his 5.6 40x is available in the 2nd round…you take him.
Also noted that Michael Bush is again in trade rumors with teams that actually know what they are doing.
Any rumors about Fargas or McFadden?
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I also think Dan Williams would be great fit on this team.
If they trade down about 5 spots to get him it would be nice…..but Al is to dumb to trade down.
March 1st, 2010 at 4:47 pm
However, I will say that there are times when the front does their job, and our LB’s are nowhere to be found.
And rarely does our front not do their job, but they get bailed out by our LB’s.
We need a difference maker in the middle of the field. Whether it be Demeco Ryans, Rolando McClain, Spikes or someone else, we need some competition at MLB and I don’t mean a healthy Ricky Brown.
March 1st, 2010 at 4:52 pm
You guys ready for the Al Davis all-projects draft?
1-Bruce Campbell
2-Jerry Hughes
3a-Tim Tebow
3b-Myron Rolle
4- Trindon Holliday
5-Walter Thurmond
6 & 7 more fast guys!!!
March 1st, 2010 at 4:57 pm
With the open competition at QB this training camp, who do you guys think will start the first preseason game?
Will the home fans boo if it is Russell?
March 1st, 2010 at 5:03 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/01/mcclain-sits-out-combine-drills/
He’s healthy, but has decided that working out wasn’t in his best interests.
There are widely ranging opinions about McClain, who is projected to go anywhere from the twelfth overall pick to the Dolphins to the start of the second round. McClain may not fit well on a 4-3 defense. In fact, McClain said he’d be more comfortable as an inside linebacker in a 3-4 defense.
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Again, get a MLB that can play the position on day 1. If he’s uncomfortable with the 4-3…he’ll be real uncomfortable with our brand of 4-3…man 2 man
March 1st, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Vegas, the home fans will NOT boo… until his first turnover.
March 1st, 2010 at 5:06 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 4:57 pm
With the open competition at QB this training camp, who do you guys think will start the first preseason game?
Will the home fans boo if it is Russell?
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Unless Russell pulls a repeat of last year, where he is overweight, late for meetings, etc…Russell will be the starter.
Gradkowksi is here to push…but he has a HIGH hurdle rate. The Raiders want to see Russell in that position.
As for Gradkowski, how can a starting QB be available for only a 2nd round tender? Shouldn’t some QB hungry team just JUMP all over this and make an offer?
Gradkowski has to take the long road…that’s for sure
March 1st, 2010 at 5:11 pm
My bet, Bruce starts the first preseason game, as the Raiders hope that Jamarcus playing against 2nd stringers builds his confidence and production.
Only makes sense.
And we haven’t seen if a team will sign him to an offer sheet. My bet is that it is unlikely, but I wouldn’t be shocked if the Broncos or Seahawks give Bruce a reasonable offer.
March 1st, 2010 at 5:14 pm
VR,
So you think the Seahawks would be bringing him in to start?
Doubtful, it would be to back-up.
I will keep throwing cool water on this. Gradkowski is getting the hype after 2 games because JaDavis Russell has been awful. Not because Gradkowski is this elite talent in the making
Doesn’t change the fact that Gradkowski is limited and that everything is based on 2 games……….
March 1st, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Regardless of the QB, the offense will struggle in 2010 as QBs, Receivers, RBs get used to a new system and the new O-Line tries to gel.
That’s why a defense that can get off the field is so important. A defense that can pick up the offense. Getting off the field means stopping the run and forcing teams to throw at Nnamdi, Johnson and company
March 1st, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Vegas,
If you recall, that was my proposal this whole time… let Gradkowski and Losman alternate starts in preseason with whoever didn’t start playing the second quarter, then let JaMarcus take every snap for the second half of EVERY preseason game. That way, he gets lots of reps in game situations, but against lesser competition (but still professionals at full-speed). That should add up to a more finely tuned JR for the start of the season (if he’s committed and WORKS).
The worst-case scenario is that JR continues the laziness and lack of preparation and inaccuracy… and isn’t ready to be the starter for the regular season opener and we go with Grads or Losman and I’d be fine with that (but I’d prefer it if JR actually did what he SHOULD be doing and finds a way to fulfill his potential… while still a Raider).
March 1st, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Watching some combine highlights. L Houston impressed today along with Spoon. Analysts said they see Houston going top of the 2nd and Spoon towards the bottom of the 1st.
Gonna be interesting to see where the coaching staff / Al see what the defiencies are on the team and what their strategy will be. I am not of the belief that Al drafts based solely on HWS. However, all things being equal (seldom are they) why not go with the HWS measurables.
I Know there are some diverse opinions on this board on the direction the Raiders should go in the draft. I just find it really interesting to watch the draft play out.
March 1st, 2010 at 5:21 pm
I’m NOT saying that Gradkowski is the solution or that he’s elite or that he is the future of the franchise. I’m saying that if JR doesn’t change, I’m fine with Gradkowski or Losman being our guy for the year (or until we get an upgrade). Behind a better line, Grads or Losman might be good enough to go over .500… and I’d take our chances with them before the ‘09 version of JR. That having been said, I WANT to have faith in JR to reach his potential… I really want to… but he has to show me something in order for that to happen.
March 1st, 2010 at 5:21 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 5:11 pm
My bet, Bruce starts the first preseason game, as the Raiders hope that Jamarcus playing against 2nd stringers builds his confidence and production.
Only makes sense.
And we haven’t seen if a team will sign him to an offer sheet. My bet is that it is unlikely, but I wouldn’t be shocked if the Broncos or Seahawks give Bruce a reasonable offer.
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A second rounder is a small price to pay for a future HOFer. At least that’s what Jamie Foxx thinks. LOL.
March 1st, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Doesn’t change the fact that Gradkowski is limited and that everything is based on 2 games……….
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Two games?? Try ONE qtr!
March 1st, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Bruce had the second highest QB rating, and started the 3 most games of all QB’s taken in the draft of 2006.
And he was the most productive rookie that year for QB in that draft.
So of all QB’s from that draft, he had the best rookie year, and one of the best 4th years.
Those are facts
March 1st, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Debo,
Have all the fun with Foxx comment, I will laugh along with you.
I brought up his comment, not to take this as fact about his weight, but about the fact he was spotted somewhere besides working out in AZ.
March 1st, 2010 at 5:30 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Doesn’t change the fact that Gradkowski is limited and that everything is based on 2 games……….
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Two games?? Try ONE qtr!
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Let’s try this again.
First of all we scored 20 points 4 times all year. Opening night, Bengals and Steelers with Bruce and in Denver.
Bengals game, we had 2 80 yard TD drives in that game. We had 5 all year, Jamarcus had two and one was the Miller 85 yard TD.
Cowboys game was a bad game. Still had 200 yards passing and DHB even got a TD, but bad game.
Steelers game, best offensive game all year, best 4th quarter in Raiders history for a QB.
Redskins game, we had 10 points at halftime. At that time, that tied for the season high at halftime with opening night (broken the next week with 13 in Denver).
Not to mention, Bruce’s 3 games he finsished, he played 2 on the road, against the Super Bowl champs and two division winners, and 3 top 12 defenses.
He didn’t play one good quarter, he only played one bad game, which would be a good game, STATISTICALLY for Jamarcus, against some of the toughest competition we played all year.
More facts for you
March 1st, 2010 at 5:30 pm
“Bruce” is a lightly regarded QB with 65 career passer rating, period.
March 1st, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Bruce also didn’t get the benfit of Mike Bush. I think Bush had 13 carries combined in the 3.5 games Bruce played, while Fargas had close to 50 carries on those games.
Just give the kid a chance to build on last year. If it was a fluke, we will all see, and it won’t cost us much of a committment to see if it was or wasn’t.
March 1st, 2010 at 5:38 pm
The QB battle will be between:
Bruce Gradkowski
JaJackoff Bustle
&
Chad Pennington
March 1st, 2010 at 5:42 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Doesn’t change the fact that Gradkowski is limited and that everything is based on 2 games……….
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Two games?? Try ONE qtr!
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Simple question.
Name me ANYTHING Russell does well??
Ok…simpler…name me ANYTHING Russell does even mediocre?
Anything?
No???…didn’t think so.
March 1st, 2010 at 5:45 pm
QB sneaks!!
Russell is one of the best in the biz
March 1st, 2010 at 5:53 pm
I’m just excited for this competition.
Preseason games will be worth watching, even more so if JP or another QB is also in the competition.
March 1st, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Richochet Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 5:42 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Doesn’t change the fact that Gradkowski is limited and that everything is based on 2 games……….
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Two games?? Try ONE qtr!
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Simple question.
Name me ANYTHING Russell does well??
Ok…simpler…name me ANYTHING Russell does even mediocre?
Anything?
No???…didn’t think so.
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The guy never has happy feet. Very poised in the pocket and pays no attention to the rush. Tough as nails. Will step up in the pocket and fire the ball into thhe face of the rush without worrying about the inevitable punishment behind our line. Calm, cool and collected. Can shake off a bad play like it never happened and come back to make a big play. Has a flair for the dramatic with three game winning/tying drives this season to back it up. His arm strength is unquestioned, arguably the strongest arm in football. Forget throwing it 80 yards. It’s the velocity. He regularly fits balls into tight windows.
March 1st, 2010 at 5:55 pm
If Busch stays, I bet Hue gets him the ball more.
March 1st, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Watching this combine on NFLnetwork, and it looked like Wauffle had a significant role with the D-line guys today.
One point him and Suh are going over something, and Wauffle is coaching him up one-on-one.
If I’m Al, I am calling the Lions early and often for that second pick if Bradford goes first.
March 1st, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Vegas,
I just wish that Gradkowski was a guy that played 8 games and seized the job. Just make sure in your evaluation of the guy, that its based on HIS talent….and not the deficiencies of JaDavis or other QBs taken in 2006.
The goal is to win a Super Bowl. Not to have the best QB of the 2006 draft or someone that can outperform a lazy 2009 JaDavis Russell.
March 1st, 2010 at 5:58 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Watching this combine on NFLnetwork, and it looked like Wauffle had a significant role with the D-line guys today.
One point him and Suh are going over something, and Wauffle is coaching him up one-on-one.
If I’m Al, I am calling the Lions early and often for that second pick if Bradford goes first.
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I saw that. Hopefully Wauffle brings that to the Raiders.
March 1st, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Grads = Poor man’s Donald Hollas
March 1st, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Also hope that Wauffle brings a true, honest assessment of the current DTs and a good perspective of the guys he’s coaching right now.
March 1st, 2010 at 5:59 pm
He regularly fits them into opposing hands as regularly as his own teammates. He pays no attention to the rush and gets sacked 5 times a game. And with those 5 sacks usually come with 2 fumbles.
March 1st, 2010 at 5:59 pm
I doubt Al Davis has another 30-40 million to guarantee a #2 draft pick
March 1st, 2010 at 6:00 pm
I am nervous about Michael Bush. You know that these other teams are trying to figure out a way to hustle Mr. Davis. And with Tom Cable in the room….
Don’t trade the best running back and leave us with Fargas (3.8 yds per carry and a cloud of dust) and Mcfadden
March 1st, 2010 at 6:01 pm
# GRIM Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 5:55 pm
If Busch stays, I bet Hue gets him the ball more.
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Safe bet.
Almost impossible to get Bush the ball less
March 1st, 2010 at 6:01 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 5:59 pm
I doubt Al Davis has another 30-40 million to guarantee a #2 draft pick
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But he might sink 20 – 25 million in a raw rookie OT with great measurables at #8
March 1st, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Richochet Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 6:01 pm
# GRIM Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 5:55 pm
If Busch stays, I bet Hue gets him the ball more.
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Safe bet.
Almost impossible to get Bush the ball less
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LOL
March 1st, 2010 at 6:03 pm
I’ve said this before….
Gradkowski might get you a few wins, but QBs like him rarely get their teams to the next level and end up retiring with nice unspectacular careers.
You have to hope JaDavis gets it because he’s got the physical tools to be the guy. If you don’t think he’s the guy or will develop into the guy….then the Raiders need to go find someone else to groom.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:04 pm
I know….using the words Raiders and groom in the same sentence is reaching
March 1st, 2010 at 6:08 pm
SnB,
Is our goal really to win the Super Bowl? I know a lot can change in a year, but it’s that type of thinking that has got us in this mess.
Can we at least get to .500 first? It’s been 7 years.
I have always said Bruce is the perfect guy to right the ship for a few years, maybe get us in the playoffs one year, and put in place a system for the next franchise QB.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:08 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 6:03 pm
I’ve said this before….
Gradkowski might get you a few wins, but QBs like him rarely get their teams to the next level and end up retiring with nice unspectacular careers.
You have to hope JaDavis gets it because he’s got the physical tools to be the guy. If you don’t think he’s the guy or will develop into the guy….then the Raiders need to go find someone else to groom.
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I agree almost wholeheartedly. But I’m of the opinion that JR gets it more than he’s been given credit for and that the hardship placed on him by starting Murphy and DHB behind a subpar OL with no running game has been grossly understated.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:11 pm
Are DHB and Murphy any worse than Lelie and Ron Curry? Those guys we were out of the league for good the next year.
If Jamarcus can have the year he had in 2008 with those guys, he should have at least been better than he was in 2009.
Simply put, I think the NFL had a year of film on Russell (and Cable) and gameplanned accordingly in 2009. Russell and Cable didn’t make the necessary adjustments and hence 3 TD’s and 17 turnovers.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Gradkowski told he’ll get second-round tender
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 1, 2010 7:40 PM ET
Bruce Gradkowski looks like the early favorite to be Oakland’s starting quarterback in 2010. But first the Raiders have to make sure he stays on the team.
With that in mind, Oakland informed Gradkowski’s agent at the combine they will place a second-round tender on the restricted free agent, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.
It’s not a great sign for the organization when they are so confident no team will give up a second-round pick for their best quarterback. But it’s also a safe bet no one will go after Gradkowski at that price, so it’s a smart move.
Gradkowski will make $1.759 million for one year if he signs the deal. The team doesn’t sound interested in awarding the Polish Popgun a long-term contract yet.
This is just guess, but we suspect JaMarcus Russell won’t be the only legitimate competition Gradkowski faces for the job next year.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:17 pm
Will Russell be capable of audibling this year?
I think it is about time, going into his 4th year.
How about complete mastery of the playbook? A lot is thrown around here about his knowledge of the playbook and all that, but all we have is Cable’s comment after the Jets game in which Cable said Russell didn’t line the guys up properly on the very first play.
The very first play that was scripted and probably practiced a million times during the week. Maybe he got confused, maybe he forgot, who knows, but on that one play, he didn’t know the play.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:17 pm
I’m fine with Gradkowski being the starter so long as thats what Hue Jackson wants, the team brings in more competition to ensure we have the best QB and his knees have to be healthy because tearing ligaments in both knees may ruin his career.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:19 pm
I knew the 2 rooks were gonna be the downfall of the passing game. I hardly ever post, but I did then as I will now. Russell never had a chance in hell….
March 1st, 2010 at 6:19 pm
What up Nation!
Here’s my All SEC draft for us:
1. Rolando McClain MLB–Alabama
2. Mt. Cody DT–Alabama
3a. Tim Tebow QB–Florida
3b. Dexter McCluster RB/KR–Ole Miss
4. John Jerry OT–Ole Miss
5. Ciron Black OT–LSU
6a. Perry Riley OLB–LSU
6b. Rahim Alem DE–LSU
March 1st, 2010 at 6:20 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 6:11 pm
Are DHB and Murphy any worse than Lelie and Ron Curry? Those guys we were out of the league for good the next year.
If Jamarcus can have the year he had in 2008 with those guys, he should have at least been better than he was in 2009.
Simply put, I think the NFL had a year of film on Russell (and Cable) and gameplanned accordingly in 2009. Russell and Cable didn’t make the necessary adjustments and hence 3 TD’s and 17 turnovers.
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Poor JR. Look at the guy’s starters at WR the last two years. Lelie/Curry in 2008 and Murphy/DHB in 2009. And he was supposed to be lighting it up? Also remember that JR’s game really picked up at the end of 2008 when we started Schilens and JLH. Al even talked about how important it was to be playing those two during the new conference announcing Cable’s hire. Of course Chaz gets hurt and somehow JLH gets passed over for a starting role. Then as soon as Chaz comes back, JR gets benched. Don’t know about you, but I saw JR making a lot of plays with Chaz vs Denver and Baltimore. Imagine what JR might do when, for the 1st time in his young career, he can start the season with the same set of WRs that he had the previous season?
March 1st, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Where is MR lately? I made a bet with him on Russell starting next season and he harassed me cause it was only $20. I took the under….
March 1st, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Lines of scrimmage, right. Although I would say the o-line takes precedence. DB’s? not as much.
Linebackers is a huge need also and I can’t believe he didn’t mention it, but whatever, one interview doesn’t really reveal much. This team desperately needs linebackers, I hope the coaches and Al Burns realize that.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:26 pm
I say good if we trade Bush.
What does he have to hang his hat on? Plus he goes down just as easy on contact as DMAC. His 177 against Tampa? Any one of us on this blog would have put up those numbers knowing there was no practice after that game for at least 4 months.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:31 pm
No doubt it didn’t help Debo, I have said otherwise.
But there is a lot more to it going from 13 TD’s and 8 ints to 3 TD’s and 11 int’s.
You can’t blame that all on variables. He didn’t bring his A game in 2009.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:32 pm
I agree Debo- Russell was part of the problem and not the whole problem. And having Schillens out half of the year didnt help either.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:33 pm
Early in the season, the Raiders IGNORED the run game, and focused on the QB and his rookie WR’s.
Stupid!
March 1st, 2010 at 6:35 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 6:31 pm
No doubt it didn’t help Debo, I have said otherwise.
But there is a lot more to it going from 13 TD’s and 8 ints to 3 TD’s and 11 int’s.
You can’t blame that all on variables. He didn’t bring his A game in 2009.
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How much to you blame on “variables”? I didn’t even get into all the coaching changes and the asinine signing of Jeff Garcia that undermined the guy and created a huge distraction. I’d say 70-75% easy. You?
March 1st, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Vegas Raider,
I don’t think the Raiders are going to win the Super Bowl next year. My point is that if you are not making a run…you should be preparing to make the run.
Does Gradkowski project to being a Super Bowl caliber QB? What other QBs of Gradkowski’s pedigree, makeup, strenghts, weaknesses does he compare too?
I don’t think he’s a Super Bowl caliber QB. Therefore, you better hope JaDavis develops into one or they draft/sign one.
Gradkowski might thrill you for a quarter or a game…but what will he look like in week 6….week 10 of a full season where the opponent game plans him.
I have seen way to many middling QBs in Oakland to get excited about Bruce Gradkowski or QBs like him. I am hoping against common sense that JaDavis finally get it.
Otherwise 7 years of awful football turns into 8, 10 ,12 and worse….
March 1st, 2010 at 6:36 pm
In 2008 the Raiders were still running the Kiffin system, get the QB outside with roll-outs and moving pockets.
In 2009, Davis went Old-School, back to the 7 step drop, sitting duck pass game.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:37 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Richochet Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 5:42 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Doesn’t change the fact that Gradkowski is limited and that everything is based on 2 games……….
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Two games?? Try ONE qtr!
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Simple question.
Name me ANYTHING Russell does well??
Ok…simpler…name me ANYTHING Russell does even mediocre?
Anything?
No???…didn’t think so.
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The guy never has happy feet.
RICHOCHET: Never has happy feet? lol…when was the last time you saw a huge side of beef have happy feet? HE HAS CEMENT TOES…WHICH IS 10 TIMES WORSE THAN HAPPY FEET. Garcia has happy feet…Russell’s fat ass is incapable of moving, much less dancing.
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Very poised in the pocket and pays no attention to the rush.
RICHOCHET: WRONG..lol..”poised”?? IT’S CALLED ZERO POCKET AWARENESS. he has NO IDEA what’s going on..like a zombie..saying he’s poised is about as ridiculous a comment as anyone could say. And you actually post as a PLUS that he pays no attention to the rush? HE’S SUPPOSED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE RUSH..again…it’s called POCKET AWARENESS. It’s called NOT GETTING SACKED..it’s called NOT PUTTING YOUR TEAM IN A NEGATIVE SITUATION. “Poised” means you stick in there AND MAKE A PLAY..not “stick in there, and get slammed to the turf..over and over and over.”
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Tough as nails.
Richochet: What? he falls down WHEN HE’S TOUCHED..that’s not tough..that’s weak. He NEVER has fought for yards..he NEVER has shaken off a tackle..one of his many knocks is how can someone that huge just collapse when he’s touched? ####################3
Will step up in the pocket and fire the ball into thhe face of the rush without worrying about the inevitable punishment behind our line.
RICHOCHET: lol…he’s THE WORST STARTING QB FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS..oh..which happen to be his ONLY years that he played. He doesn’t make plays..he’s absent of thought..has NO IDEA what’s going on around him. What the hell are you watching? Dude..you’re either blind, or a fool.
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Calm, cool and collected.
RICHOCHET..oh geez…you are an idiot. Manning is calm cool and collected. Brady is calm cool and collected. Russell is brain dead, blase’ and lost. Again, how can the absolute worst starting qb, IN THE LEAGUE, be called ‘calm cool and collected”? He sucks..and one of the reasons he sucks is because he doesn’t care.
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Can shake off a bad play like it never happened and come back to make a big play.
RICHOCHET: Has 20 BAD PLAYS for every big play…that equals to having the WORST STATS IN THE LEAGUE. You’re not supposed to make 20 stupid plays, then get praise from some moron when you make ONE GOOD PLAY.
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Has a flair for the dramatic with three game winning/tying drives this season to back it up.
RICHOCHET: Raiders set a record for 11 plus loss seasons..and you think that because JR has a game where his QB RATING WAS 42, AND ANOTHER ONE 45 THAT because one drive was successful erases the rest of the game that he was like 9 for 22??
That’s NOT A PLUS to suck the whole game..unless you’re desperate to say something so you don’t look foolish.
See YOU.
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His arm strength is unquestioned, arguably the strongest arm in football. Forget throwing it 80 yards. It’s the velocity. He regularly fits balls into tight windows.
RICHOCHET: You idiot…NO HE DOESN’T.
First off…JEFF GEORGE HAD THE STRONGEST ARM IN FOOTBALL…so did Dan Pastorini..so does Russell…AND ALL SUCK AS QB’S. Strong arm doesn’t mean squat if you suck at completing the ball to a receiver.
And ‘regularly fits ball into tight windows”?? wrong..HE REGULARLY MISSES WIDE OPEN RECEIVERS.
Let me simplify it for ya…Russell has HORRIBLE FOOTWORK…has ZERO pocket presence, has arguably the worst touch on his balls, in the NFL, is incapable of going through his reads, routinely is off the mark with receivers, shows zero motivation and leadership ability, and is grossly out of shape, and overweight.
The team doesn’t like playing with him, and most of the fans are tired of his sorryass “what, me care?” attitude.
Only a fool would state “that’s not what, me care? That’s cool, calm and collected.”..ESPECIALLY when he’s the worst starting qb IN THE LEAGUE.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:38 pm
I like your example of Brad Johnson, although he is a little bigger than Bruce.
Garcia as well, as they both have the same size and mobility. I think Bruce’s arm is a little stronger.
Rex Grossman took his team to a Super Bowl for crips sake, so anything is possible.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Debo,
70-75%??? Maybe if Bruce didn’t have any success when he came in I would agree with that.
Me, I call it 50/50. 50% Russell’s fault for not taking the next step, and 50% on everything else.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:41 pm
504,
B.S! When you average 4.8 yards per carry on over 120 carries…you are a running back.
Maybe you love the heart and fire no talent guys like Fargas and Gradkowski…but that shhhhhh doesn’t cut it when it comes to wins and losses….talent AND heart does.
Michael Bush in a full season as a starter would be a 1200 yard back. When he’s received carries he’s performed. He’s the only back to break long runs on this team. When he was averaging over 5+ per carry against Cleveland.. the head coach decided to let Charlie Frye throw 40x.
That’s why teams that know what they are doing…unlike here….are going for him.
The Raiders have been bad for so long that its fans don’t even know what a decent player looks like anymore
March 1st, 2010 at 6:44 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 6:38 pm
I like your example of Brad Johnson, although he is a little bigger than Bruce.
Garcia as well, as they both have the same size and mobility. I think Bruce’s arm is a little stronger.
Rex Grossman took his team to a Super Bowl for crips sake, so anything is possible.
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Come on Vegas! We deserve better than that. Brad Johnson? Blistering defense to back him! Rex Grossman? Out of the league….Garcia…again, what has he done except win a game here or there?
I want an elite QB in Oakland. Either develop one or keep trying.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:44 pm
# Raider E Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Where is MR lately? I made a bet with him on Russell starting next season and he harassed me cause it was only $20. I took the under….
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Forget it.
I bet him a $100.
he immediately stated if he loses he wasn’t going to pay, and actually seemed quite proud of it, in his small man syndrome kind of way.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:45 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 6:41 pm
Michael Bush in a full season as a starter would be a 1200 yard back.
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Pretty lofty goals for a guy who has never even put back to back 75 yard games together.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:46 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Debo,
70-75%??? Maybe if Bruce didn’t have any success when he came in I would agree with that.
Me, I call it 50/50. 50% Russell’s fault for not taking the next step, and 50% on everything else.
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Vegas,
I will admit, Grads had some success when he came in. See, I said it. But let’s not ignore the fact that as bad as things were last year, JR had some success too. We agree that the supporting cast is in dire need of an upgrade. And that it had a significant impact on the effectiveness of our QBs last year. There’s no way in hell we can run JR out of town under those circumstances. He deserves the chance to right his ship.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:46 pm
SnB,
I want an elite QB too, only problem is that there is only about 10 of them in the league, and half of them are in their mid 30’s.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Vegas,
Tom Cable had nothing but loves and kisses for Justin Fargas. Plus, Cable doesn’t like Bush’s personality or whatever…maybe the reluctance to play fullback…maybe Bush’s support for Gilbride…I don’t know.
But Fargas got the same number of carries as Bush and wasn’t nearly as effective.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:50 pm
IMO we need to pattern ourselves by the Ravens. Running, defense, and a serviceable quarterback to make just enough throws to keep the opposing defense honest.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Debo,
While I throw Jamarcus under the bus a lot, I have never said to cut him. Not yet at least.
He deserves one more offseason to get it together, but he was so bad last year he lost the right to be the de-facto starting QB. He has to earn it now.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:55 pm
GRIM Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 6:50 pm
IMO we need to pattern ourselves by the Ravens. Running, defense, and a serviceable quarterback to make just enough throws to keep the opposing defense honest.
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Almost got it right. We need a young developing QB that we protect with a strong running game and good defense…..Jets, Ravens, Falcons, Dolphins, Steelers
March 1st, 2010 at 6:57 pm
Unfortunately, like KoolKell pointed out, Tom Cable went into 2009 wanting to let’er rip. Didn’t even bother spending much time on the running game in camp.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:58 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Debo,
While I throw Jamarcus under the bus a lot, I have never said to cut him. Not yet at least.
He deserves one more offseason to get it together, but he was so bad last year he lost the right to be the de-facto starting QB. He has to earn it now.
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“Earn it”?? Tell me Vegas, in your mind, what does he have to do to earn the job?
March 1st, 2010 at 7:02 pm
I am all for the best guy winning the job. But if the Raiders think there is a better than 50% chance that JaDavis is going to lose out to Gradkowski…they BETTER be looking at Bradford, McCoy, Claussen etc….or looking to trade for a guy like McNabb.
Seriously, you cannot feel good about Bruce Gradkowski as the starting QB.
Yet another position where the Raiders have players starting that would not start on ANY other team
March 1st, 2010 at 7:03 pm
Boy are they laughing it up here in Tampa. They have the Raiders pegged to pick Bruce Campbell. I didn’t watch the combine, but it sounds like he must of racked up some number that Davis won’t be able to resist. Some project Campbell 5th at his position and a low 1st rounder at best. So, they’re probably right about Davis wanting to pick him high.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:03 pm
He has to play better than Bruce Gradkowski and any other QB on the roster.
Why is that so hard to understand?
March 1st, 2010 at 7:05 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 6:57 pm
Unfortunately, like KoolKell pointed out, Tom Cable went into 2009 wanting to let’er rip. Didn’t even bother spending much time on the running game in camp
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We threw the second least amount of passes this year. We lost games by 30 points when we didn’t even through 15 passes. The first week was Russell’s highest point total of the year.
Starting DHB was a disaster, but Russell was at his best late in 2008, under Tom Cable, when he was throwing more passes than he was this year.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:12 pm
SnB,
Who knows more about a particular player on the Raiders, you or Tom Cable?
March 1st, 2010 at 7:13 pm
VR,
Cable b.s’d in training camp and then during the season the running game was a byproduct. B.S’d with Michael Bush, too many carries to Fargas and DMAC was meaningless all year.
The Raiders had the 2nd fewest passes because they probably had the fewest offensive plays (i don’t know for sure and did not check the stats…just a guess)
March 1st, 2010 at 7:14 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 7:03 pm
He has to play better than Bruce Gradkowski and any other QB on the roster.
Why is that so hard to understand?
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Play better?? When, in preseason games? What constitutes playing better to you, stats? What if it’s close? I think all that is a buch of garbage. As long as JR is around all summer and doing the things Hue asks of him, he should enter the camp as the No. 1 guy. If you really want to talk about earning the job, the reality is that he earned it the day the organization decided to draft him No. 1 over all. He had a decent 1st year as a starter. Could he have done more last offseason? To be honest with you, I really don’t know. Not sure how you do. But I think we both agree that the organization didn’t do it’s part. He deserves a do-over.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Interested to see what Javier Arenas and Syd’Quan Thompson do at the combine tomorrow.
Both are nickle/slot guys with KR ability. That is what we need sorely.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:15 pm
RaiderRon Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 7:12 pm
SnB,
Who knows more about a particular player on the Raiders, you or Tom Cable?
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You would think Tom Cable. But after that disaster that was 2009, I am going to say that this is a tough question for anyone to answer.
Play the guy getting 3.8 yds per carry over the guy getting damn near 5 per carry….alrighty then!
Play the receiver that can’t catch….alrighty then!
Cornell Green? Samson Satele is the answer….Khalif Barnes…Kwame Harris???
You ask a very good question
March 1st, 2010 at 7:18 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 7:15 pm
RaiderRon Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 7:12 pm
SnB,
Who knows more about a particular player on the Raiders, you or Tom Cable?
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You would think Tom Cable. But after that disaster that was 2009, I am going to say that this is a tough question for anyone to answer.
Play the guy getting 3.8 yds per carry over the guy getting damn near 5 per carry….alrighty then!
Play the receiver that can’t catch….alrighty then!
Cornell Green? Samson Satele is the answer….Khalif Barnes…Kwame Harris???
You ask a very good question
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Don’t forget Hirame Eugene over Michael Huff. I’d say I know more for sure. Lol!
March 1st, 2010 at 7:18 pm
I don’t think it is that hard to discern who is playing better? Do you? Is is that hard to watch two guys play with the same guys and know which one looks better and it putting more points on the board.
Your overthinking this. I trust that Hue Jackson can watch two guys through 4 months of camp and 4 preseason games and know who is the best option. If he can’t do that, he shouldn’t be coaching in the NFL.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:19 pm
SnB,
Bush is not that good. Hell some stats say JaMarcus aint that bad when compared to others.
After watching the NFC Championship game, I have a different outlook on stats. Brees was 11-17 3 TDs 0 int and it was the worst I’ve seen him since his San Diego rookie year. He almost choked that game but did make up for it in Super Bowl.
My point is stats do lie sometimes. I should have known this when our Rob Ryan led defense was #3 overall that one year.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:24 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 7:14 pm
Could he have done more last offseason? To be honest with you, I really don’t know. Not sure how you do.
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Come on bro, the Raiders fined him for coming into camp too large. Jamarcus admitted he was “a little heavy”.
Could he have done more? Of course, you can always do more!!! He didn’t even do enough to not get fined.
Don’t bury your head in the sand would ya?
March 1st, 2010 at 7:24 pm
So what about the 130 yards Bush had against Denver is B.S?
Or the 120 yds against K.C?
or the 50 some yards on 10 carries at halftime against Cleveland?
Or the 55 yds on MNF on 10 carries
What..he was supposed to get 300 yards in those games? The defenses just gave him the yards? Or the Raider O-Line was just so dominant?
Give me a break!
March 1st, 2010 at 7:25 pm
But Fargas’ 3.8 yds a carry and and two yard crashes into the line is a thing of beauty.
This line of thinking goes to the core of why this roster is so broken
March 1st, 2010 at 7:26 pm
Debo
Vegas must have been an underdog his enire life so he wants to see Grads win over the favored more talented player. This is a Napoleon complex and the little general has the fire and moxey Vegas loves if he ever met him they’d need a room.
Anyone with half a brain knows that if this team is going to be great Russell has to lead it. Cable knows it Mr Davis knows the porganization knows and only the fans are ignorant of it.
Cable can say Russell is doing everything he’s supposed to be doing a thousand times and the haters will still say no. I’m not sure what else Cable needs to say to get the point across that the kid is working to get his job back. They just don’t get it because they don’t want to get it. He said we have talked a couple of times and I KNOW HE’S WORKING I just want to get the offseason started so I can see him everyday.
Now how can anyone with an objective opinion take anything negative from that. But these idiots find a way to do it. They hate him and will always hate him………….period
Why keep arguing the point let the games begin OTA’s minicamps and s forth then they’ll see who has what.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:26 pm
SnB,
For every game you just mentioned, Bush had a game or two where he outgained Al Davis by only 8 or 9 yds.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:30 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 7:24 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 7:14 pm
Could he have done more last offseason? To be honest with you, I really don’t know. Not sure how you do.
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Come on bro, the Raiders fined him for coming into camp too large. Jamarcus admitted he was “a little heavy”.
Could he have done more? Of course, you can always do more!!! He didn’t even do enough to not get fined.
Don’t bury your head in the sand would ya?
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In of itself, what the hell does reporting a few pounds overweight mean? How did it change the fact that he was throwing to two rooks? How does showing up slim and trim improve our OL play? If it’s about showing in tip-top shape, why didn’t Brady Qinn make the Pro Bowl? The Raiders had a QB School, voluntary minicamps, involuntary minicamps and training camp. JR was there for all of it. The overweight thing is so overblown!
March 1st, 2010 at 7:32 pm
LOL….
I said a few weeks ago, my favorite players are the firey less talented guys. We all have our favorites for whatever reason.
Here’s the difference between me and you guys. I want the best QB to win the job for 2010. If it is Russell I am cool with it. If it is Bruce you guys will just make excuses for Jamarcus.
I will make no excuses for Bruce if he can’t beat a bum like Jamarcus Russell for the starting job.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:34 pm
504 Raider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 7:26 pm
SnB,
For every game you just mentioned, Bush had a game or two where he outgained Al Davis by only 8 or 9 yds.
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Yeah because the Genius Head Coach gave Bush less than carries in all but 6 games.
In the 6 games he had 10 or more carries:
76 carries 415 yards 5.4 per carry
Let’s feed Fargas the rock
Perhaps if the genius focused more on the run then trying to take JaDavis from developing to Peyton Manning in 2 months…perhaps we could have seen more
March 1st, 2010 at 7:34 pm
priesttj Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 7:26 pm
Debo
Vegas must have been an underdog his enire life so he wants to see Grads win over the favored more talented player. This is a Napoleon complex and the little general has the fire and moxey Vegas loves if he ever met him they’d need a room.
Anyone with half a brain knows that if this team is going to be great Russell has to lead it. Cable knows it Mr Davis knows the porganization knows and only the fans are ignorant of it.
Cable can say Russell is doing everything he’s supposed to be doing a thousand times and the haters will still say no. I’m not sure what else Cable needs to say to get the point across that the kid is working to get his job back. They just don’t get it because they don’t want to get it. He said we have talked a couple of times and I KNOW HE’S WORKING I just want to get the offseason started so I can see him everyday.
Now how can anyone with an objective opinion take anything negative from that. But these idiots find a way to do it. They hate him and will always hate him………….period
Why keep arguing the point let the games begin OTA’s minicamps and s forth then they’ll see who has what.
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I hear ya man. I’d respect Vegas’ opinion a hell of a lot more if he’d just admit his hatred for JR and quit pretending to be objective. Wishful thinking, huh?
March 1st, 2010 at 7:34 pm
“less than 10 carries”
March 1st, 2010 at 7:35 pm
In of itself, what the hell does reporting a few pounds overweight mean?
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I means you signed a contract saying you would be of such weight, and you didn’t live up to your word.
I never said it was the be all end all to QB. You are the one who stated that basically there is no proof Jamarcus didn’t do everything he could in the offseason.
Well, there’s your proof.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:36 pm
I only hate Jamarcus Russell because he was 2-9 as a starting QB for my beloved Oakland Raiders.
That’s it, end of story.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:38 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 7:35 pm
In of itself, what the hell does reporting a few pounds overweight mean?
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I means you signed a contract saying you would be of such weight, and you didn’t live up to your word.
I never said it was the be all end all to QB. You are the one who stated that basically there is no proof Jamarcus didn’t do everything he could in the offseason.
Well, there’s your proof.
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Lol!! That was your point?? Cool man, you got me. Whatever floats your boat.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Priest,
Just an interesting note of completely useless and trivial detail: Napoleon was NOT a little man. He wasn’t even short for HIS day. The common misconception that he was of small stature was a product of his opposition’s propaganda.
This has nothing to do with football, I just like informing people of that when they talk about a Napoleon complex. It’s a misnomer if ever there was one. Napoleon’s actions were never to compensate for a lack of height, so it’s silly to use that term. “Little Man Complex” is much more apt, yet not in common usage because people, commonly, are ignorant.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Vegas,
I don’t hate Gradkowski. I just think there is too much enthusiasm for a guy that’s…well..just a guy.
If he wins the job, I will chear for him. I also believe if he wins the job whether fairly or otherwise, the Raider franchise in trouble.
Bruce Gradkowski type QBs just don’t win many meaningful games.
The Colts and Chargers didn’t waste time with Bruce Gradkowski type QBs….they got on with it.
If Bruce wins the job he should start…the Raiders better have another young QB in waiting should that happen.
Gradkowski is a limited QB with little upside
March 1st, 2010 at 7:42 pm
Ryan Fitzpatrick gave the Bills a lift in a couple of games…..perhaps we should bring him in to compete? Maybe match the Bills tender?
Think Flacco, Ryan or Henne would be exposed on a 2nd round tender?
Not slamming Gradkowski here…just trying to put things in perspective
March 1st, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Rex Ryan was of the same mindset. He needed a QB that will play at a high level for years and has the potential to be the main guy.
He didn’t go out and look for Gradkowski. Gradkowski was busy getting cut in St. Louis.
Again Vegas, 6 to 8 games of evidence would make me feel better about it.
2 games? That means nothing to me
March 1st, 2010 at 7:47 pm
Bruce Gradkowski is a journeyman QB. The dictionary definition of one actually. That being said, if the competition is REALLY open, theres no way in hell he dznt win the job. He will come in prepared, in shape and will undoubtedly have the team rallying around him. Like I said, IF the job is truly open he will win. Bad news for Jamarcus, bad news for Raider fans everywhere because he is not a legit NFL starter.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:48 pm
SnB,
That’s your opinion, we all have ours.
I’m sure all the Rams fans were saying the same thing in 1999 about Kurt Warner.
“The guy wasn’t even good in the Arena League”, “He was bagging groceries 2 years ago” blah blah blah
There is no silver-bullet when it comes to locating NFL QB’s. Some are top-flight no doubt guys like Peyton, Matt Ryan and Donovan McNabb. Others were undrafted like Romo and Kurt Warner. Others took a few years to get it together like Schaubb, Brees and Brett Favre. Super Bowls have been won recently by guys from the first-round (Ben and Eli) and guys from the last round (Brady).
You don’t know until you put the guy on the field and see what happens.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:52 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 7:48 pm
SnB,
That’s your opinion, we all have ours.
I’m sure all the Rams fans were saying the same thing in 1999 about Kurt Warner.
“The guy wasn’t even good in the Arena League”, “He was bagging groceries 2 years ago” blah blah blah
There is no silver-bullet when it comes to locating NFL QB’s. Some are top-flight no doubt guys like Peyton, Matt Ryan and Donovan McNabb. Others were undrafted like Romo and Kurt Warner. Others took a few years to get it together like Schaubb, Brees and Brett Favre. Super Bowls have been won recently by guys from the first-round (Ben and Eli) and guys from the last round (Brady).
You don’t know until you put the guy on the field and see what happens.
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There may not be a silver bullet. But none of these guys played on three teams in three years.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:54 pm
We all know the Kurt Warner story. Not comparing Bruce to Kurt at all, just saying if a guy can not start an NFL game until he is 27 years old, and go on to a HOF career, having your mind set on what type of QB a 26 year old Bruce Gradkowski is, is very narrow-minded.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Okay, since this is on topic, here’s MY bias:
I love JaMarcus’s potential, but I HATE what he’s done with it (or rather, what he HASN’T done with it).
I like Gradkowski’s abilities (not love). I LOVE his awareness, his drive, his dedication, and his leadership. I believe that last season Bruce did twice as much as JaMarcus did with half the natural ability. I do not love Bruce and do not see him as the future. However, if Losman or another QB doesn’t pan out… AND… JaMarcus doesn’t step up, then I am fine with giving the ‘10 season to Bruce because I think he can at least get us to .500… and that’s a step in the right direction. Frankly, I’d like to see what he can do with a better cast around him.
I know that a better cast would also improve JR’s play immensely, but until he puts in the work in the film room, weight room, and classroom… I don’t think he deserves to start over someone who put up better numbers in EVERY category with the same cast (this is a reference most specifically to Charlie FRYE, of all people, whose performance was better than JR’s in the season finale where each played one half with the exact same supporting cast, but it also applies to other situations).
I want more than anything for JR to put in the WORK this offseason in every possible area, to take the role for which he was drafted and paid a king’s ransom, and become an All-Pro in the near future. I hear that he’s doing the right things at the moment, so I will only criticize the past and hope for a better tomorrow… but until I see improvement for myself, I will back Gradkowski (maybe Losman if we ever get to see more of him).
My bias is based on effort put forth (weight, meetings, his attitude) and will continue to lean away from JR until he corrects it. If you want to challenge me for saying that he doesn’t put forth the effort, I’ll GLADLY link the video of Nnamdi’s interview for you again where he talks about JR not being prepared for games and for the season as a whole. A QB who deserves to start would NOT do the things that JR does. I’ll still cross my fingers, though, because JR at his top potential is better than anyone else we have. However, he’s been nowhere near that yet and doesn’t appear to have the desire to put forth the effort to get there. That puts him on the bench in my book… especially when you have guys who get more accomplished on the field.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:54 pm
What!!? he wasn’t short for his day? what the hell does that mean in his day people wer short???
Since you know so much about Napoleon how tall was he??
It’s just the anyone but Russell syndrome. They hate that kid but they refuse to admit it most of them. But in this open competition we will see who’s who and what’s what. This is actually the best thing for everyone concerned because anyone afraid to compete I don’t want. That includes Russell. So we’ll see…. If he is anyhwere near what I think he is a competition with Gradkowski is no big deal in fact I would love to see him compete against much better competition.
I think Russell is hands down the best player at his position on this team and he needs to prove it where it counts the most.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Vegas,
How many guys come out of the grocery store and do what Warner did?
Again, the huge red flag that goes up with Gradkowski is that he was cut from 3 bad teams…one team he didn’t make it out of camp.
Those other guys you mentioned were drafted by their original teams and traded for value. Brees was given a raw deal but had demonstrated a few years of solid QB play.
We are handing Gradkowski the keys because JaDavis has been terrible and two games of performance.
I don’t like long-shots. They happen so rarely and I don’t much believe in miracles.
Again, if Gradkowski beats out Russell, then he should start….I am just saying that if Gradkowski wins…it will confirm that this franchis e is a long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long way from competing
March 1st, 2010 at 7:59 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 7:54 pm
We all know the Kurt Warner story. Not comparing Bruce to Kurt at all, just saying if a guy can not start an NFL game until he is 27 years old, and go on to a HOF career, having your mind set on what type of QB a 26 year old Bruce Gradkowski is, is very narrow-minded.
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Narrow-minded??? Kurt Warner showed the 1st NFL team he was on he could play. Your HOFer has been on three teams in three years and so far all he’s shown is that he MIGHT be a pretty good backup. Glad your not comparing him to Kurt at all. LOL.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:59 pm
But none of these guys played on three teams in three years.
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Incorrect.
Again Warner was undrafted and latched onto the Packers roster and practice squad. Eventually he was cut. He played in the Arena League and than the Rams.
So 3 teams in 3 years, and one wasn’t even in the NFL.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:04 pm
March 1st, 2010 at 7:59 pm
But none of these guys played on three teams in three years.
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Incorrect.
Again Warner was undrafted and latched onto the Packers roster and practice squad. Eventually he was cut. He played in the Arena League and than the Rams.
So 3 teams in 3 years, and one wasn’t even in the NFL.
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I said NFL team. Grads got stiff-armed by two of them. And at least Warner proved himself by dominating that league. What has Gradkowski ever dominated?
March 1st, 2010 at 8:05 pm
This is actually the best thing for everyone concerned because anyone afraid to compete I don’t want. That includes Russell.
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That is the most sense I have read from Priest since the season ended. No one should disagree with that.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Priest,
Are you unaware that humans have gotten taller over the years? The average height of a man NOW is taller than it was 100 years ago… and that was taller than 100 before that… and so on.
Napoleon was born in 1769 and his height in English inches (what we use here in America) was five feet, six and a half inches tall. That was taller than the average frenchman during that time.
I learned all this when we studied the Little Man Complex when I was a Psychological Operations Specialist. I found a link for you so that you won’t just have to take my word for it. Maybe you shouldn’t attack someone’s statements so vehemently when you don’t know what you’re talking about. It sucks to talk smack and then be proven wrong, doesn’t it?
http://ask.yahoo.com/20030724.html
March 1st, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Jeezz,
Now I know why Russell can’t move well in the pocket. If some of you guys (like Priest) get off his nutz, his weight wouldn’t be an issue.
And Russell by far the best player at his position on the roster? Ask “No Comment” aka Schilens what he thinks.
And I rooted for Russell since he got to LSU. He has regressed. Yes he was good at times. Just not the last few times we saw him.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Im actually pretty optimistic regarding Jamarcus.
1. He’s trying to better himself by off season training.
2. When he went in relief in that last game, to me, he looked like he was throwing some good passes. (except the two bad decision ones).
3. After he threw his second pick, the tv cameras zoomed in on him and he was visibly upset. And thats not something i’ve seen since hes been here. For me, if i was the worst rated qb in football and got demoted to 3rd string and got booed all year by my own fands and my favorite uncle dies and I have a last chance to go in and show some people wrong and it blows up in my face…..im gonna be one pissed off s.o.b. And that my friends…is motivation.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:17 pm
SteveAlford21 Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Priest,
Just an interesting note of completely useless and trivial detail: Napoleon was NOT a little man. He wasn’t even short for HIS day. The common misconception that he was of small stature was a product of his opposition’s propaganda.
This has nothing to do with football, I just like informing people of that when they talk about a Napoleon complex. It’s a misnomer if ever there was one. Napoleon’s actions were never to compensate for a lack of height, so it’s silly to use that term. “Little Man Complex” is much more apt, yet not in common usage because people, commonly, are ignorant.
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I will agree with you about one thing Steve. This is a note of completely useless and trivial detail. Give it a rest, will ya?
March 1st, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Again Preseaon is going to be a hoot!!!
Good evening Raider Nation, my work here is done.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:19 pm
I think Russell is hands down the best player at his position on this team and he needs to prove it where it counts the most.
Priest
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This is the kind of stuff found on most used toilet paper. In 3-D I might add.
At the beginning he is the best and the end says he needs to prove it.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:21 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 7:12 pm
SnB,
Who knows more about a particular player on the Raiders, you or Tom Cable?
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You know what Ron?
I valid argument can be made that WE as fans may know more because WE see what happens on the field on gamedays (when we can) without being biased (most of the time I hope, unless your Priesst) and WE as fans do not have to deal with the stubborn old man Al’s bull crap when it comes to who should play, who should not play, and who is on scholarship.
WE as fans don’t have to deal with some looney old man being in our ear trying to tell us what to do and force feed us bull crap that doesn’t work.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:22 pm
# 504 Raider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 8:19 pm
I think Russell is hands down the best player at his position on this team and he needs to prove it where it counts the most.
Priest
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This is the kind of stuff found on most used toilet paper. In 3-D I might add.
At the beginning he is the best and the end says he needs to prove it.
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LOL….funny stuff huh?? hahaha
March 1st, 2010 at 8:23 pm
This site is trying to download crap onto my computer. Know it happens but HATE IT.
If its them, piss off. If its not them, they;ve got a problem.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:23 pm
Russell gets catch-back at all the booing fans when he checks his online (bank) statements. Lets all hope that Hue Jackson can fix this.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:24 pm
Debo,
It was trivial, but would you rather misuse a phrase and give incorrect info, showing ignorance to others… or waste ten seconds learning something? It’s not like I said it in mean way or was an ass about it, I just noted that his usage was a common misconception in the hopes that he (and others) would gain from it, as useless as it may seem. If you use the phrase as most people do and make comments regarding people with the assumption that you’re right, then knowing that it’s wrong clearly ISN’T of no use. Please excuse me for trying to spread information and help people say more intelligent things.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:25 pm
Vegas, unlike you I’ve never been afraid that he might lose his job to a better player……a better player key word is BETTER. Wether you realise it or not black QB’s even in 2010 don’t get by like white QB’s just because they happen to be talented. They have to prove it their entire careers over and over and over again. This kid is a fighter and has been his entire life to prove what kind of player he is.
He neat out players at LSU to WIN that job it wasn’t handed to him. When he came here he had to wait until he was ready (knew the playbook) could audible and compete at a high enough level to win.
You see I know this kid a lot better than you and most people in here who think he desn’t care and he’s lazy and stupid. He’s far from it. He was one of the mst scrutinized players at the combine and his proday. He was researched over and over again to find anything that might suggest that he has a weakness that wuld stear you away from him. Most dumbells in here think he was drafted on one game and the raiders didn’t do their due diligence. Quite vthe contrary. They over did it. With private eyes and the like the kid came through with shinnning colors. This is IMO a clitch in his career a test if you will but not something he hasn’t seen or done ten times over.
So unlike you I have no problem with competition as long as it is fair and may the nest player win…………period
March 1st, 2010 at 8:32 pm
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March 1st, 2010 at 8:36 pm
# vegas raider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Watching this combine on NFLnetwork, and it looked like Wauffle had a significant role with the D-line guys today.
One point him and Suh are going over something, and Wauffle is coaching him up one-on-one.
If I’m Al, I am calling the Lions early and often for that second pick if Bradford goes first.
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Yep…the team has the ammo with the two 3rds and two 5ths.
Trading the #8 pick overall, and one of the 3rds and one of the 5th’s to move up to the #2 spot should get it done.
Move Seymour inside to play alongside Suh, cut Warren and Kelly and then draft either an OT like Charles Brown or Rodger Saffold in Round 2 or go pass rushing RDE like Corey Wootton or Austin Lane.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Well Stevie,
That might well be true in europe but my ancestors were not short at all nor was that true in the Middle East maybe it was in the far east. So I guess it all depends on you sphere of enfluence or better ancestral culture.
Thanks for your history lesson but everybody wasn’t from Europe. Sorry!!
March 1st, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Isn’t that what I said? Again if Jamarcus is the best QB for the 2010 job, based on what he did in 2010 training camp I am all for it.
I am not afraid of QB competition, I want it!!!
I never said he was stupid, and have posted numerous times that he got a higher wonderlic than Bruce. Don’t lump me into that group.
But don’t be so sure you know the “kid” better than me.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Priest, how do you know that your ancestors weren’t shorter than the average person of your lineage now? This doesn’t apply only to Europeans, it’s a common link among people of all geographical regions. Just because your dad says that your grandfather was tall and your grandfather says that his grandfather was tall doesn’t mean that they were all the same height. They may have been tall compared to others of that era, who were shorter (on average) than people of THIS era.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Q: Were you in the room when Sebastian Janikowski’s contract was being negotiated?
Cable: Some of that, yes.
Q: Getting coffee and donuts?
Cable: And cream and sugar.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Priest,
Also, I wouldn’t have expected you to make an attempt to be condescending by pulling the “stevie” stuff. I thought better of you…
March 1st, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Anyway, back on topic:
What do you have to say about my breakdown (post 366) of the QB situation from my perspective?
March 1st, 2010 at 8:51 pm
This is just pathetic. T Cable you incompetent jack a$$.
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Q: Do you expect Javon Walker to be on the team? And why haven’t you been able to get him going?
Cable: To answer the second question first, really we’ve had the emergence of those young players and really Louis Murphy, Chaz Schilens and Johnnie Lee Higgins give us something. Darius Heyward-Bey gets hurt and misses a good chunk of the season. So I think it’s there development and trying to bring that group along. Will he be there next year? We’ll see.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Vegas Raider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 7:36 pm
I only hate Jamarcus Russell because he was 2-9 as a starting QB for my beloved Oakland Raiders.
That’s it, end of story.
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B.S. Vegas,
Al Davis is 29-83. 7 straight seasons of 11 losses or more, and you never say a word about him.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:52 pm
LMAO
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March 1st, 2010 at 8:32 pm
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March 1st, 2010 at 8:52 pm
KoolKell
You coming by Roosters on Saturday?
March 1st, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Mista
That includes you! I assumed that you would be going…
March 1st, 2010 at 8:53 pm
Mista
The funny thing is you are the only one that got that joke and you may just be the one person that despises me the most on here. At least you have a sense of humor…
March 1st, 2010 at 8:55 pm
A nice backhand to the grill of JaMeatball.
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Cable: Very important. Both he and Greg Ellis brought a lot of that to our football team. And guys like Charlie Frye and Bruce Gradkowski I thought brought some of that to the other side of the ball.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:56 pm
I know I know him better than you I studied this kid since his first start at LSU I was on the begging them to draft the kid. If I’m wrong I’ll be the first to admit it but based on what I saw last year there is way too much to suggest that he was THE problem on this team and anyone who says he was is ignorant…………period
Stevie all I know is my ancestors were not considered short by any strecth and it has nothing to do with mr grandparents or great grand parents. I said ANCESTORS comprehend? From the Africa coast and Ghana now you can use a median average or whatever you chse to justify whatever argument you want. But the fact is they were not short people in general. You can go from the Sudan to Egypt to So Africa into the Middle East they were huge tribes of very large people throughout history.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:56 pm
I say plenty of “words” about him Kool, I just don’t say EVERY word about him.
That’s why I am a fan of Bruce for the Raiders. It’s about the best we can do due to what Al has done to this franchise. He will never install a system to teach a talented young guy, so get a younger “Vet” who was taught by someone else.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:57 pm
KoolKell, hows that hope & change? Nothing like going back to the Jimmy Carter days!
March 1st, 2010 at 8:57 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 8:52 pm
KoolKell
You coming by Roosters on Saturday?
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I might. Post it again Fri/Sat.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Is tj trying to justify his 5′4 height ?
March 1st, 2010 at 8:58 pm
He may not have been THE problem Priest, but certainly wasn’t the answer either.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Not only is Barback 0b@ma taking a wrecking ball to the United States economy & generations of debt but he is killing the entire Dem party! This guy is GOOD! Do they teach this @ Harvard ?
Hope & Change!
March 1st, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Priest, I’m not saying that they were short… I’m saying that their average height was shorter than the average height of their descendants. What are you having trouble comprehending here?
They were taller than Europeans, but not taller (on average) than people who live in Ghana NOW (on average). Nowhere did I say that they were short. How are you confusing this? Do you think that the rest of the globe’s population has gotten incrementally taller as generations pass, but all black people have stayed the same height forever without getting taller as generations pass? If that’s what you think, then that means that black people will be shorter than asian people within a few hundred years. Prepare for an all-Yao All-Star Team!
March 1st, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Stool Kelly what it do my brutha?
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March 1st, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Stool Kelly
http://www.move2alameda.com
March 1st, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Dogg,
If I was in the Bay or surrounding area, I might check it out.
Plus they played at Pine Street in Livermore. My pops played there for years!!!
March 1st, 2010 at 9:04 pm
priesttj Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 8:25 pm
Wether you realise it or not black QB’s even in 2010 don’t get by like white QB’s just because they happen to be talented. They have to prove it their entire careers over and over and over again. This kid is a fighter and has been his entire life to prove what kind of player he is.
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OMG are you fauking kidding me? Are you fauking serious or was that comment a joke? You are a fauking tool.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:05 pm
SteveAlford21, do you realize you are debating a deranged loon ? Quit throwing peanuts in tj’s cage and maybe he wont throw poop at you.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Hey Bros -
This super sweet band Eastbaysick is playing at my cousin’s 8th bday party. They’re going to be in the cupcake eating contest after they finish their set, and then helping my aunt clean up.
These softies are such momma’s boys they even agreed to clean up the pool after all the kids finish urinating – i mean swimming in it.
So come see these clean cut clowns do their Huey Lewis covers in my family’s backyard.
KrappyKell will even be there for a post party pant crapping display.
RSVP directly to Brian the Genital by midnight tonight.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:06 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Dogg,
If I was in the Bay or surrounding area, I might check it out.
Plus they played at Pine Street in Livermore. My pops played there for years!!!
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Vegas
They will be playing Burning Man again this year. They sold out 3 nights in a row out there last year. The tent was full every show!
That is awesome about the Pine Street Grill connection. Did the stage have a stripper pole on it then like it does now? They will be playing the Pine Street on April 9.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Now if you start telling me they are playing at Downtown Ollie’s than that will just trip me out.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:08 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 8:57 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 8:52 pm
KoolKell
You coming by Roosters on Saturday?
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I might. Post it again Fri/Sat.
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Can you imagine KoolKell and RaiderDogg in the same building? The ladies will go nuts!
March 1st, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Krappy, there is no way you can go to the Eastbaysick show this weekend. Remember, you’re a cowardly old fool who can barely keep his head out of his own microwave.
Don’t get all freaky and commit to things your doctor would never recommend, you old tool sack!
March 1st, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Vegas
I may be making the trip to Burning Man this year, come on through and I will hook you up VIP stylee.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:11 pm
I think KoolKell is Barbacks economic advisor.
The blind leading the dumb..
March 1st, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Stool Kelly cant go because he will be busy acting like he is a realtor. Because we all know he is too old and too stupid to be a Broker.
Michael Kelly
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Direct Number: (510) 376-4447
Office Number: (510) 523-6058 Ext. 256
Cell Number: (510) 376-4447
March 1st, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Go Raiderrrrs!!
Wooo Hoooo Cable
March 1st, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Vegas
so you are an old school Livermore transplant? How did you end up in Vegas?
March 1st, 2010 at 9:14 pm
Mista,
I’ve had several people tell me similar things about Priest, but I wanted to give him a fair shot and judge him based on the content of what he says to me. Despite the fact that he makes obviously ridiculous on intimate terms and having frequent meetings with GM’s, owners, coaches, and players at various levels and locations, I still give him a chance because I enjoy talking about people’s opinions and perspectives. I know that he’s said many things that are B.S., but I am interested in his opinion on Post 366, so I’ll tolerate the rest. Unfortunately, he hasn’t GIVEN that opinion. Nevertheless, I’m interested in some of his statements when they aren’t just blind bias.
I’ve never seen anyone consistently agree with anything that he says other than Debo… and I enjoy discussing things with Debo, as well. Just because our opinions differ doesn’t mean we can’t discuss… in fact, it makes it more interesting, at least for ME. I guess if I want to actually get him to say something worth reading tonight, I’ll have to stoop to a childish level and call him Priestie-pooh or widdle-tj or something as condescending as stevie. *sigh* I don’t know why people can’t tolerate different beliefs without becoming a child.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:15 pm
I’m still trying to digest Cable saying J Walker couldn’t break the lineup because our “young guys” emerged.
This a$$ clown needs to be publicly humiliated! What an embarrassment to the history of this franchise.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:15 pm
Stevie,
I understand completely what you’re trying to say and I’m telling you it’s the opposite based on what people were in those parts of the world.
There were people in the Middle east that would be considered Giants today their knecks were so large they were the tribe called Anakim it is the root word by which the word neck came from these people are rumored to have been minimum average between 6-7 ft. tall some 9 ft. tall and the phillistines were very tall I think Goliath was said to be over 9 ft. tall
Zulu’s well over 7 ft. tall hundreds of years ago to the Sudan where people would easily average 6ft. tall. You might look upon these as myths but there is acrheological evidence that they existed. They’ve found remains of people over 10 ft. tall from over 4 thousand years ago. They still need to be substanciated but there are pictures of them.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:15 pm
Dudes, Eastbaysick just signed to play at my local frozen yogurt shop!
It’s going to be epic. Word on TMZ is they’ll be playing right next to the carob chip cookie stand and the refrigerator full of Welch’s fruit juices.
Anyway, Krappy’s wife will be there running the sound board. So if you have a problem with their levels, you can just punch Krappy in the nuts.
It’s going to be mo fly, homeskillets!
March 1st, 2010 at 9:16 pm
KoolKell
Be forewarned that the band that is opening for them is called 6 Weeks Sober, who are nowhere close to actually being sober as individuals, are a very alternative rock, non hip hop band. So if you show up early you will be treated to something entirely different than East Bay Sick. They are pretty good for what they do if you get down with that style of music.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Btw, nice to meet you, Mista.
What’s up, Vegas, Dogg, Kell, Beech, and Einstein.
(I’ve already spoken with/to Priest and Debo, so I assumed no howdy was necessary for you two)
March 1st, 2010 at 9:18 pm
SteveAlford, you have about half the picture. I’ll let you get the rest on your own.
Happy blogging!
March 1st, 2010 at 9:19 pm
I have no idea who either of them are
But I may stop in for a drink. I think that’s down by the boat yards.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:20 pm
KoolKell do you have a drinking problem like our Pres?
I wonder if you smoke as well? Nothing like pushing for Health Care while smoking & drinking!!
Hope, Change, and Leadership!
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KoolKell Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 9:19 pm
But I may stop in for a drink.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Kell
Hope to see you there, even if I don’t I am sure you will enjoy yourself.
I am out for the evening, have a good one.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:23 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 9:19 pm
I have no idea who either of them are
But I may stop in for a drink. I think that’s down by the boat yards.
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I bet you will Stool Kelly, a drink of a cok.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Krappy, are you out of your mind? You’re in your 80s and everyone at the Eastbaysick show will be under 13.
Old man, they’re going to laugh at you as soon as you crap your sweatpants.
Save yourself the embarrassment, you old hound! Stay at home and watch some Matlock on your VHS!
March 1st, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Priest, the archaeologial records show that those giants aren’t the NORM. Someone might find Yao Ming’s skeleton one day a thousand years from now, but that doesn’t mean that all Chinamen are seven feet tall. You’re basing a statement about thousands of people on the height of their tallest. I’m basing it on the averages from the skeletons found in those areas over long periods of time from different eras. To say that the average Zulu height was over 7 feet tall would actually be a claim that evolution is working in reverse for them (as Zulu people don’t average that height today). You are making an assumption about an entire population based solely on a small percentage. That’s like saying that Bruce Gradkowski is the greatest QB in the league because of that 4th Quarter against the Steelers… or that JR is the greatest in the league because of that last drive against Denver. You have to take the AVERAGE of the people from that area at that time.
Nevertheless, let’s move on to something football-related. Post 366?
March 1st, 2010 at 9:25 pm
LMAO @ VHS
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# Senior Beeecham Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Save yourself the embarrassment, you old hound! Stay at home and watch some Matlock on your VHS!
March 1st, 2010 at 9:26 pm
# Senior Beeecham Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Krappy, are you out of your mind? You’re in your 80s and everyone at the Eastbaysick show will be under 13.
Old man, they’re going to laugh at you as soon as you crap your sweatpants.
Save yourself the embarrassment, you old hound! Stay at home and watch some Matlock on your VHS!
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LMFAO.
Michael Kelly
Kane and Associates Realtors
Direct Number: (510) 376-4447
Office Number: (510) 523-6058 Ext. 256
Cell Number: (510) 376-4447
March 1st, 2010 at 9:28 pm
Einsteen
You are a nobody.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:29 pm
BrownStains
You are a trailer park, nobody.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Beeych
You’re a nobody too.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:31 pm
And you are a piece of shyte old azz retaded realtor who everybody on this blog hates and thinks you are a complete joke and a loser. So whats your point dumb azz.
move2alameda.com
March 1st, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Einsteen
Please click on my website as much as possible.
Do you with the other trash in San Lorenzo?
March 1st, 2010 at 9:33 pm
Einsteen
Your mother was the loser, Im afraid.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:33 pm
Your website sucks as bad as you do.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:33 pm
Hey Stevie,
if I say I did something I did it wether the people in here want to believe it makes me no never mind. It juts says to that they are either jealous or haters because it’s true I have talked to GM’s and scouts and coaches Raider coaches like Gruden Norv Turner Att Shell and Bill Callahan. I talked to all of them and scouted with Mike Lombardi as well as others now if you and the rest of these haters can’t handle that TOUGH!!
I don’t need to lie to you I don’t even kn ow you and you don’t know me and you never will if I can help it. I come in here by choice for fun with guy’s that know football. Most don’t like Mista some do they know who they are.
As for your post 366 I read it what do you want me to say it’s your opinion just like I have mine. I couldn’t care less. Frye and Grads played better than Russell did from the standpoint of running Cable’s offense more efficiently but IMO they were average at best. Now what else???
March 1st, 2010 at 9:34 pm
A 70 year old man on a blog calling people names in between cutting & pasting useless stats and praising the worst Pres in our history!
Kell, if you were a dog they would have put you to sleep already!
March 1st, 2010 at 9:34 pm
Krappy, I’m just concerned you’re going to break your hip – or worse – at the Eastbaysick show.
Times have changed since you saw Elvis on his first world tour.
I’d hate to see you try to mosh and your false teeth fall into your glass of warm milk.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Einsteen
All you want to do is suck me, no?
March 1st, 2010 at 9:35 pm
# Mistabr0wn Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 9:34 pm
A 70 year old man on a blog calling people names in between cutting & pasting useless stats and praising the worst Pres in our history!
Kell, if you were a dog they would have put you to sleep already!
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LMFAO. I was going to say something about Michael Kely, aka stool kell, but it’s probably even to low for this blog. So nevermind.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:36 pm
BrownStains
Your inability to make a decent living is YOUR fault. No mine, ok?
March 1st, 2010 at 9:37 pm
priesttj Says:
I think Russell is hands down the best player at his position on this team
Post 367 is far more interesting.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:37 pm
Einsteen
Your mother was a crack ho tramp. Better she’s dead now.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:37 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 9:36 pm
BrownStains
Your inability to make a decent living is YOUR fault. No mine, ok?
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And you are a making a living with ONE current listing you successful realtor you!!! What stool, broker to difficult for you? You the JaMarcus Russell of realtors? Fat, stupid, and black?
March 1st, 2010 at 9:38 pm
SteveAlford,
I’m gonna speed things up for you. Sorry I cant take it no more!
tj will be your best friend and hump your leg if you do the following:
A- Agree with everything he says
B- Never point out his contradictions
C- Refuse to admit JaMeatloaf is a bust
D- Throw the HC under the bus after you spent the entire off season comparing him to Madden
E- Treat every rookie AL drafts like a future Hall of Famer
If you dont do those above things you are a dumb ignorant uneducated half a$$ football fan, in tj’s warped little mind.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Einsteen
You post my name and number all day like you’re trying to get a hold of me. Is that what you want?
March 1st, 2010 at 9:39 pm
KoolKell, how much did I report on my 2009 tax return?
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# KoolKell Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 9:36 pm
BrownStains
Your inability to make a decent living is YOUR fault. No mine, ok?
March 1st, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Einsteen
You are a Nobody. Why don’t you get a job of your own?
March 1st, 2010 at 9:40 pm
Come on stool kelly, answer the question, why aren’t you a Broker? Too fat and stupid? Or is the “white man” keeping you down?
March 1st, 2010 at 9:41 pm
BrownStains
As poorly written as you are, I don’t think you could earn 20,000
March 1st, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Einsteen
It’s none of your fuking buisness, why I’m not a broker????????
Why are you a angry little troll?
March 1st, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Come on Stool Kelly, admit it, it’s the white mans fault you aren’t a broker right? Come on my “brutha” tell us what it do..
March 1st, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Whoa, it’s a classic Krappy evening meltdown!
Its the kind of world class entertainment you just can’t buy at your local AMC theatre.
How bout it, Krap Krap? Filling up those drawers with homemade chili?
March 1st, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Einsteen
Don’t you have a life of your own?
March 1st, 2010 at 9:43 pm
KoolKell, in other words you have no idea what kind of living I make.
Fuktard!
March 1st, 2010 at 9:44 pm
You guys follow me around like poor children.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Mista,
Way to sum it up for Stevie, now you can go play jax with neighborhood 8 year old girls. Football aint your game in fact why do you come in here.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:44 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Einsteen
It’s none of your fuking buisness, why I’m not a broker????????
Why are you a angry little troll?
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LMFAO. A melt down..
Come on my “brutha” we all know that it’s the white mans fault you aren’t a broker right? Or is it the “JaMarcus Russell” syndrome which equals to = Fat and Stupid?
March 1st, 2010 at 9:45 pm
BrownStains
I know your parents were piss=poor trailer trash. I doubt you landed very far from the trash heap.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:45 pm
Einsteen
What’s your profession? lmao.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:46 pm
KoolKell, you dont put question marks on the end of a statement, your so “poorly written” you unegumicated tool.
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# KoolKell Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Einsteen
It’s none of your fuking buisness, why I’m not a broker????????
March 1st, 2010 at 9:46 pm
And you know this how?
KoolKell Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 9:45 pm
BrownStains
I know your parents were piss=poor trailer trash.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:46 pm
You worked up a bad deal Stool Kelly, a deal that was a little “under the table” for one of your “bruthas” you hooked up a “brutha” that was an illegal deal, and now you can’t be a broker because you have a criminal record? I doubt it, I think you are just too fat and too stupid to be a Broker.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:47 pm
BrownStains,
You’re the blog idiot, commenting on my writing?????
March 1st, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Richochet wants to know why I’m not a broker too.
Why so much interest in MY life?
March 1st, 2010 at 9:49 pm
KoolKell, its just not natural for a 70 yr old man to pretend to know peoples life on a blog, did your mind develop past 8th grade?
Does your wife know what you’re doing or is she hopped up on narcotics to deal with you?
March 1st, 2010 at 9:50 pm
Being average at best is a pretty good feat behind our Offensive Line, IMO. The fact that the system may not have been suited for JR’s abilities at this stage in his career is another point entirely. We’ll have to see how each QB performs under Hue’s system (or variations that are tuned to each QB) in order to make a determination for this season.
If you couldn’t care less about other people’s opinions, then why post here? Do you just come here to say what you think and only care what’s said by those who agree with you? Do you have no interest in discussing anything, just agreeing and arguing instead?
March 1st, 2010 at 9:51 pm
BrowStains
What are you a garbage man?
March 1st, 2010 at 9:51 pm
It was sarcasm Kell. I was poking at you for saying I’m “poorly written” whatever the hell that means. And yes your grammar is fairly poor…
March 1st, 2010 at 9:51 pm
Mista have you seen Stool Kells man-wife? She looks as stupid as he does. His man-wife is probably taking it from behind from the next door neighbor while Stool Kelly is here wasting his time on a blog, getting his azz handed to him day in and day out.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:52 pm
Einsteen
Your mother took it from behind until her ass wore out, and she died. Too bad.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:53 pm
KoolKell you could only ignore me for so long just like that nitwit tj. Now your melting down BIG time.
You 2 tits..
March 1st, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Einsteen
Are you so angry, because your mother didn’t leave you anything?
March 1st, 2010 at 9:54 pm
You tell me Kell, you know how much I make hell you even know about my parents….LMAO @ you!
JackA$$
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# KoolKell Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 9:51 pm
BrowStains
What are you a garbage man?
March 1st, 2010 at 9:54 pm
BrownStains
Ohhhhhh, you’ve got me melting down. Ohhhh, ahhhhhhh.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Krappy, just make sure you don’t piss off KrappyWife while you’re melting down on the blog.
Then you’ll have no one to pick you up from the Eastbaysick show this weekend.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:55 pm
BrownStains
All I know about your parents, is that they were ignorant and poor.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:56 pm
Geez Kell you know my income, my parents income.
How do you do it ?
lol
March 1st, 2010 at 9:57 pm
So how about them Raiders?
March 1st, 2010 at 9:57 pm
Alford, it seems you want to discuss the Raiders on fight night. Good luck.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:58 pm
Stool Kelly I actually feel sorry for you, your life really sucks. Ugly azz HIV infected wife who gets banged by the neighbor kid, can’t be a broker because you have a criminal record, and always kept down by the “white man”. We will never know how bad it must suck to be you.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:59 pm
BrownStains
I know you are Ignorant and Hateful by your writings. People like that come from Ignorance and Hate.
They don’t make much money.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:59 pm
Kinda reminds me of the playground growing up in San Leandro…
March 1st, 2010 at 10:00 pm
Einsteen
If my life sucked sooooo bad, you wouldn’t be living on my website in jealousy.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:01 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 10:00 pm
Einsteen
If my life sucked sooooo bad, you wouldn’t be living on my website in jealousy.
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LMFAO. Yeah I am jealous of your stupid azz… and your ugly azz man-wife.
My job is done here. Stool Kelly is in full melt down mode.
Thank you and goodnight, I will be here all week.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Kell, why are you the village idiot and daily target in here ?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:03 pm
Einsteen
You are a Nobody, Troll. Angry and Without a Life of your own. Pathetic.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:03 pm
It’s your opinion it’s neither wrong nor right IMO. We have to see what happens this offseason. Time will tell all. What am I supposed to say about an opinion about the future? besides give my own opinion which i did earlier. So your opinion is as good as mine is what I meant.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:03 pm
BrownStains
Why didn’t your mother ever clean herself up?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:05 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Richochet wants to know why I’m not a broker too.
Why so much interest in MY life?
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Save it, babbling boob. YOU made the comment to others about how YOU had done “all these things you’ll never do” while pointing out what you viewed others situations as being.
You scream for attention, and then when you get it, you feign the “why me?” bit.
Wasn’t asking why you aren’t a broker, it’s stating it’s pretty damn sad you’ve been in real estate all these years, and you’re not any higher than anyone who came in off the street and took the exam 3 months ago.
Personally, I think you’re full of crap.
Your wife is NOT surveying the land…she’s standing there, as a tourist..nothing more.
For that matter..posting “that’s me in the coolest vet around” when all you can see is the top of someone’s head in a red Saturn also is suspect…
Honestly, you’re an idiot for actually posting that stupid crap and putting it on a business page.
Again, that might be why you have no business, and count of your wife to support ya….
food for thought.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:07 pm
Tough crowd tonite…lol
March 1st, 2010 at 10:07 pm
Ricky
Einsteen leaves, Ricky enters, with the same questions.
Mfkr, you angry mfkrs cannot live your life vicariously through mine.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:08 pm
NorthernD,
I know… it’s a fool’s errand. Anything on point that you’d like to discuss?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:09 pm
1- OT T Williams, A Davis, or B Campbell.
2- DT Lamarr Houston
2- ILB B Spikes (trade 3rd & 5th)
3- WR/ KR Jacoby Ford
4- DE Austen Lane
5- CB Walter Thurmond, or OG
7- DT Demarcus Granger, or FB
March 1st, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Lets discuss how fat and stupid Stool Kelly is, how ugly is HIV infected man-wife is, and why Stool Kelly is kept down by “the white man”. Now Im out. LMFAO. This was fun.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Ricky
People in my office know I bought land in Swiss. They’ve helped me. You think my broker and collegues don’t know what I’m doing? You think I could post something fraudently like that?????
C’mon dude.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Einsteen
I say a prayer for your mother in hell, tonite, ok?
Hopefully she can keep the coks out of her mouth down there.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:12 pm
Kell you are taking such a beating I’m just gonna watch…
March 1st, 2010 at 10:15 pm
Anybody else?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:15 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 10:10 pm
They’ve helped me. You think my broker and collegues don’t know what I’m doing?
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I wonder if your broker knows you spend most of your time on this blog getting your azz handed to you, meanwhile your man-wife is getting her azz pounded by the neighbor kid.
I bet your broker is a white man right Stool?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Einstein
I wonder if your dead mammy know you grew up nasty like her?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:17 pm
Hey senile old man, what makes you think my mom is dead?
Come on old man, tell us the truth, your broker is white isn’t he…… You have broker envy…. LMFAO.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:17 pm
Einsteen
I heard your mother was buried with an ass full of crabs, no?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:17 pm
Wow Krappy, you are in full blown old man meltdown mode! This is really sad and pathetic, but I’m enjoying it too much to try and help you.
So carry on, you wacky old freak! The night is still young!
March 1st, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Einsteen
So now, its’s Broker envy, eh?
What about YOUR envy?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Who cares if you guys are rich or poor?! That’s not a way to measure people’s success. Not everyone cares about the same issues or things.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:19 pm
Kell is talking about peoples mothers and income.
Two things he knows nothing about. What a sad fat fugger!
March 1st, 2010 at 10:20 pm
Come on Stool, the fact you skate around the whole Broker thing, and the obvious anger it causes you just spells the truth that you married a white man because your broker is a white guy. LMFAO. Typically people like to “move up” in life and succeed. But you, hell no, why become a Broker, why try and better yourself. Again, you are the “JaMarcus Russell” of realtors, fat, lazy, and stupid. You are a joke. I bet all the other realtors laugh at you, and make fun of your stupid azz they same way we do on this blog. LOL.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Kell do yourself a favor and log off.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:21 pm
BrownStains
Obama’s living in the White House.
You’re living in a single-wide trailer. Get over it.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:22 pm
Einsteen
You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Get a life, troll.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Do it Stool, you have lost again, just log off, quit, let it go. Go knock on the neighbor boys door and tell your man-wife to “get on back home”.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:24 pm
Einsteen
What, I’m having fun.
You are a Nobody, Einsteen. Don’t get mad at me.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:25 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 10:22 pm
Einsteen
You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Get a life, troll.
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Real touchy topic with you, isn’t it, the whole Broker thing really gets you riled up doesn’t it.. LMFAO. “JaMarcus Russell” or realtors. Come on Stool, say it with me, BBBRRROOOOKKKEEERRRR, something you will never be. Damn criminal record. Or is it that you are just to stupid, and can’t do simple math? Either way, it’s funny.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Einsteen
You follow me around like a pathetic troll.
That’s YOUR problem. Can’t you see that?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Kell the trailer jokes and poverty jokes are just not getting you anywhere, pls continue.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:29 pm
Not only is Kell getting pummeled but tj bounced so its a win/win for everybody tonight!
March 1st, 2010 at 10:29 pm
There’s nothing funnier on the planet than hearing Raider fans mutter the words “pocket presence”.
When Russell was drafted, did anyone care about his pocket presence? All that mattered was that he could throw a ball 50 yards.
Also, isn’t it funny that Al Davis insists on a quarterback who’s the opposite of Rich Gannon, the last QB to take us to a Super Bowl?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:30 pm
Watched a bit of the combine today. The DT’s and DE’s ran. Suh looked okay, nothing truly special. He thrives on the playing field though. He has those Reggie White thick arms.
McCoy has that natural DT build. He has really thick legs like a Dana Stubblefield or a Brandon Mebane. He looks like he just will not budge from the hole.
They’ll be long gone before the Raiders get to pick.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:30 pm
BrownStains
I don’t know. It seems to be the point, no?
My property, whether I’m a Broker, etc.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:31 pm
Ahh, The Real MaddenGayer is here, he must be done banging Stool Kells wife. Time to clean up. Get to bed Michael Kelly, your man-wife is on her way home.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:31 pm
Northern watched the combine.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:32 pm
BrownStains
You’re unskilled, uneducated and white, which is not an automatic advantage anymore. Don’t get mad a me and Barack, ok?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Al Davis is building the Raiders opposite as to how they were built when they went to the Super Bowl. Anyone know why?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Einstein, am I gay or am I banging Kell’s wife, which would make me straight?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Ok Kell, you know my income, my parents income, and my skills? If I didnt know you are 70 Id think your 15.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:34 pm
Einsteen
You are a Nobody, Troll. Following me around is not going to change your life, ok?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Why do people talk about theirs and other peoples’ incomes on an anonymous sports blog?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:36 pm
Kell, tell us why.
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Why do people talk about theirs and other peoples’ incomes on an anonymous sports blog?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:36 pm
BrownStains
Like I said, I know you’re ignorant and hateful. Those people usually are at the bottom of the socio-economic ladder.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:37 pm
I don’t care if any one of you is a millionaire, or if you’re 50 and live with your parents. doesn’t matter at all. I’m not impressed nor do I pity you, either way. don’t care. I just want to see how well you can hammer Al Davis, or laugh at your feeble attempts to defend him. Makes no difference to me what your net worth is.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Why is Al Davis building this team opposite of how the Raiders were built 10 years ago, when they eventually went to the SB?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Kell, you are one of the 30 people in the United States still standing by Barback.
Congrats!
March 1st, 2010 at 10:40 pm
I’m one of the 30 people too, MB.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:40 pm
BrownStains
You’re an idiot
Congrats!
March 1st, 2010 at 10:41 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 10:31 pm
Northern watched the combine.
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That’s right!
Cody looked like a garbage bag full of breast implants when he ran the 40. Ran a 5.6+. (Sorry to all you Cody in the first believers out there)
I’ve heard DE Pierre-Paul’s name mentioned with the Raiders. He looked very raw. He ran a 4.6 but his running technique was brutal. It would take a couple of years before he could translate raw ability into game production.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:41 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 10:40 pm
BrownStains
You’re an idiot
Congrats!
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And you aren’t a Broker. Good night you ol loser. LMFAO. That was fun..
March 1st, 2010 at 10:42 pm
If all Obama does is drive right wingers crazy for the next 3 years and loses in ‘12, that would be fine by me. As long as right wingers are walking around scared to death thinking their country is gone, I’m cool with it. I love watching them flip out at their rallies. They are America’s true sideshow right now. PT Barnum stuff.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:45 pm
So, I’m not a broker. Oooooooh, ahhhhhhhh. lol.
But Al Davis is a laughingstock of the NFL.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:45 pm
I have no reason not to believe Kell does what he says he does. It’s just that I don’t care. The way you guys fight over your incomes reveals a level of insecurity that’s just borderline clinical. None of us has a face. We’re all anonymous. You’re telling a bunch of people who don’t know you, never will know you, how much money you make, and speculating as to how much they make.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:45 pm
RMR, he’s doing it that way because he doesn’t have Lombardi… or ANYONE from that era (besides Trask and Herrera) in the building to filter his ideas and give him good advice. For the past seven years, there’s been no one to say, “Hey Al… that DB/HB/WR/KR ran an amazing 40 alright, but we need to draft (x) because doing that will make our entire team better overall. We can find guys who are really fast, but can’t play football in later rounds or as undrafted free agents… or at track meets. For now, we have to go with this move.”
March 1st, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Agreed, Kell, Al Davis is the laughing stock of the NFL. What owner just said recently, “At least we’re not the Raiders”? I forget. Think it was Buffalo, wasn’t it?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:48 pm
No, they attack the messenger, that’s all. Now I’m E-Vil because I’m not a broker. Therefore anything I say about Al Davis is discredited. Lol.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Nuttin but haters and hatred in here, thta’s why the only subject that should be discussed is football anytime religion and politics gets discussed mudslinging gets to off the charts levels.
You all need to have a little more respect for each other as men. But what do I know?
Adios!!
March 1st, 2010 at 10:48 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Agreed, Kell, Al Davis is the laughing stock of the NFL. What owner just said recently, “At least we’re not the Raiders”? I forget. Think it was Buffalo, wasn’t it?
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Yeah, the Buffalo GM.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Steve, so you’re saying Al Davis didn’t actually build that SB team, that Lombardi and other execs and/or coaches from that era did?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:49 pm
“At least we’re not the Raiders”. Dammmn
March 1st, 2010 at 10:49 pm
The Cable interview was a classic. Biggest bunch of BS I ever read.
I really don’t like this guy.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:50 pm
NorthernD,
I agree with you on Cody, however I have to say something that really bothers me about having linemen run the 40: What in the hell does it matter what he can do in the 40? I only care about his 10 yard shuttle run… and really, I could reduce that to a 5 yard burst test and be happy. Linemen need a ten second burst of power mixed with great footwork and hand-technique. Off the field of play, testing for anything other than those things is pointless to use as an evaluation tool. Linemen don’t need the kind of endurance to maintain a sprint for 40 consecutive yards, they need shorter durations with more explosiveness.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:50 pm
I’ve been calling Cable “butterbean” lately.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:51 pm
I swear if I were a player on the Raiders right now I’d start calling him butterbean, to the press and everything. Gruden was chucky, Cable = butterbean.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:52 pm
LMFAO!!! DID PRIEST JUST SAY THAT WE NEED TO SHOW RESPECT?!
WOW!!!
March 1st, 2010 at 10:52 pm
coach tom cable:
http://www.pridefc.com/pride2005/images/fighter/354_l.jpg
March 1st, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Cable bumaye!!!
http://www.pridefc.com/pride2005/images/fighter/354_l.jpg
March 1st, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Boy that brilliant MR!! how long did it take you to come up with that one? all week?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:55 pm
Why have I disrespected you in some way Stevie?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:55 pm
SteveAlford21,
I’m sure RMR will disagree, but I think the biggest hindrance to Al finding productive players right now, is that he’s too old.
Before he could get out and have a look at a player who had stop watch speed and determine if they were also football players. Now he just has to rely on the times only. I’m sure that in the 60’s he could assess a player like DHB, and realizes that although he’s fast, he’s just not a top notch player.
He also can’t get the best coaches to come to the Raiders anymore. Way back, a smart young coach would die for the opportunity to coach for the silver and black. That’s no longer the case. Now, talent goes undeveloped because the best teachers are headed elsewhere.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:56 pm
To come up with the picture? About 3 seconds. Google image search. I came up with calling Cable butterbean the other night when I suggested we should sign butterbean to our o line. I then said, wait a minute, butterbean’s already our coach. priest, do you think Tom Cable’s a better coach? Is he better than Gruden?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:58 pm
What part do you think I’d disagree with, Northern D?
March 1st, 2010 at 10:58 pm
The way to evaluate players is through film study. I looked at 10 minutes of film and could tell that Crabtree was a much better player than DHB. 40 times don’t mean s….
March 1st, 2010 at 10:59 pm
RMR,
Yes, I am saying that based on the differences in how the Raiders’ rosters have been managed during specific eras and “administrations,” most of the personnel decisions other than “skill positions” were handled by non-Davis-entities. The lack of a player-personnel department and sufficient scouting and evaluation departments at present makes me uneasy every April. I could be wrong, but it seems self-evident to me that the Lombardi guys had a big hand in the success of the late 90s and early 00s.
Having said that, I also believe that when Al has smart, dependable football execs around to counter his ideas and share knowledge, he does a better job of collaborating with their “mainstream genius” to deliver a great product than anyone else of which I could think. On his own, however… Al’s best ideas are indistinguishable from his worst… and without checks and balances, he puts both kinds into action… and the bad usually do worse than just negating the good.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:01 pm
Priest, do you realize how childish you’re being? To feign ignorance and then reiterate the disrespect out of some misguided notion that it’s clever… well, that’s not only ridiculously immature, but it’s not even funny to the most easily-amused.
As I said, you making a call for respect is hilarious.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:02 pm
SteveAlford21 Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 10:50 pm
NorthernD,
I agree with you on Cody, however I have to say something that really bothers me about having linemen run the 40: What in the hell does it matter what he can do in the 40? I only care about his 10 yard shuttle run… and really, I could reduce that to a 5 yard burst test and be happy. Linemen need a ten second burst of power mixed with great footwork and hand-technique. Off the field of play, testing for anything other than those things is pointless to use as an evaluation tool. Linemen don’t need the kind of endurance to maintain a sprint for 40 consecutive yards, they need shorter durations with more explosiveness.
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The actual time is not important for a big guy. They’ll never catch anyone. What is important is how they run. Trent Williams was very fluid, and ran like someone much lighter. This implies good co-ordination, balance, and body symmetry. That means he will also have good flexion and be less likely be injured, etc.
Natural athletes generally perform better in the NFL than manufactured ones.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:03 pm
“Those who want respect, give respect.” – Jessica Simpson
March 1st, 2010 at 11:03 pm
Wait, actually that was Tony Soprano ^^^
March 1st, 2010 at 11:04 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 10:58 pm
What part do you think I’d disagree with, Northern D?
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I thought you’d throw in a conspiracy theory…
March 1st, 2010 at 11:05 pm
Steve, then why is Al “on his own”? Why doesn’t he just hire people to help him? Why doesn’t he hire Lombardi?
March 1st, 2010 at 11:06 pm
In my opinion, there are MUCH better ways to test a lineman’s natural athletic ability and coordination than a linear run of 40 yards.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:08 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 11:03 pm
“Those who want respect, give respect.” – Jessica Simpson
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I though it was Shakespeare? I always get those two confused.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:08 pm
Howie Long said on one of those NFL films that when he came to the Raiders, there was no technical talk, whatever. They just gave him a helmet and told him to rumble. So, now it’s all about combine numbers? Something has changed about this franchise.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:09 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Why do people talk about theirs and other peoples’ incomes on an anonymous sports blog?
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Because people are dumbasses!!
March 1st, 2010 at 11:09 pm
Al has been on his own since he traded Gruden. The best parts of the front office vacated at that point (except for Lombardi hanging in for another season, I think) and I honestly think that Al probably felt a little betrayed and said, “Screw it, I can’t trust anyone and I can do it all myself!”
March 1st, 2010 at 11:09 pm
Northern D, what conspiracy theory? You said I wouldn’t agree with one of your comments. What part, specifically?
March 1st, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Steve, why is Al “on his own”? Why doesn’t he just hire someone to help him?
March 1st, 2010 at 11:12 pm
Boy you guy’s are so freakin’ ignorant it’s beyond funny it’s quite sad. Didn’t a young brilliant coach just come here? Or am I mistaken or doesn’t he count anymore now that he’s already here?
Hue Jackson just turned down wrking with Jay Cutler to come here. So did Mike Wauffle whom most of you don’t know who he is. There were wveral coaches interested in coming here. But you guy’s insist on believe your own lies. And there are several great young talented players on this team which get ignored by ignorant football fans who wouldn’t the difference if you pointed it out to them.
Sme of you are such a joke it’s beyond laughable. You wrestle with our losing record and surmise that everything is Mr Davis’s fault because that is the easy answer that way you don’t have to use your brain. Giving anything further thought than Mr davis an d Russell is way to complicated for most of you. So they have to be the problem……….ignorance is bliss!!
March 1st, 2010 at 11:12 pm
Game film is always the best indicator. The three cone drill, positon drills and the bench press are always given more weight than the 40.
But just watching a player run can give you an indication of his balance and co-ordination.
A player could have an awkward gait that could lead to injuries down the road, and watching them run the 40 could reveal it.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:14 pm
RMR,
I think that he doesn’t think he can trust anyone now… and also that his stubborn pride won’t let him admit that he messed up his prized, beloved franchise and needs help from other people to fix it. It seems that he’s just saying, “It’s just a slight hiccup, I have it all under control, you will eventually see the master plan play out and know that I had it right from the start.”
To hire help now would be admitting that he has been inept. I don’t think that Al is capable of such a thing.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:14 pm
MR, who was Howie’s position coach?
March 1st, 2010 at 11:17 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 11:09 pm
Northern D, what conspiracy theory? You said I wouldn’t agree with one of your comments. What part, specifically?
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Specifically?
That the Davis being too old to do the scouting and player assessments is the problem. You’ve mentioned before you thought he was never the brains behind their success. That Ron Wolfe and others were running the show.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:20 pm
Priest,
True or false: The Raiders haven’t had a winning record since it had a full front-office staff.
One or two losing seasons in a row can be attributed to bad luck or a few rotten breaks on the field. We’re at the point now where you have to look at the people in positions of power OFF the field to find out why the ship is so off course… the people behind the team. Since Lombardi left, there are no “people” in the front office… there is only Al Davis, Amy Trask (species unknown), and Herrera (rodent of some sort).
Where would you like to place the blame? Are you going to list fifty random things that all coincided? Okay then… who is responsible for oversight on all of those things? Who failed to coordinate the franchise and prevent such disasters? Exactly.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:20 pm
MR, who Howie’s posiyion coach since you told that flat out lie?
March 1st, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Stevie,
you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about your just talking just like the rest of them. If you don’t know something ask.
There were 3 scouts at the combine this year anybody know there names?
March 1st, 2010 at 11:23 pm
Northern D, is my Ron Wolf theory far off from your Lombardi theory?
March 1st, 2010 at 11:24 pm
priest, I reject your assertion that I’m lying. I saw Howie Long say in one of those NFL films that when he came to the Raiders, there was no technical talk. It was all about getting on the field and battling. You can sit here all night and tell me I didn’t see what I know I saw. Knock yourself out. I don’t care.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:25 pm
MR, I asked you a simple question can you answer it?
March 1st, 2010 at 11:25 pm
Northern D, is everything you said about Lombardi, etc, a conspiracy theory, too? Why’s it only a conspiracy theory when it comes from me? What’s it called when it comes from you?
March 1st, 2010 at 11:26 pm
preist, i don’t know who howies position coach was and the question is irrelevant. I’m paraphrasing Long, not his coach.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:27 pm
Priest,
Learn to comprehend what you read. I never said we didn’t have scouts, I said that the scouting department was insufficient. I also said the front office isn’t complete. Are you saying that Al acting unilaterally without any people to serve as senior management partners is a “complete” front office?
March 1st, 2010 at 11:34 pm
The question directly relates to your point. Earl Leggett was his position coach and Earl ha dalready done a lot of film study on Howie and loved him he didn’t need to put him through a battery of test also on his proday other scouts from other teams were present and he diddn’t want to let on about the Raiders interets in Howie so he told him to get in a 3 point stance and explode off it. After that he left and Howie took it as no interest which was exactly what Earl wanted the other scouts to think. But once we drafted him he was extremely raw and Earl taught him everything and made him a HOFer.
Ture story.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:34 pm
NorthernD,
Per Priest’s persistent pestering: I believe it was the “America’s Team” special on the ‘83 Raiders.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:36 pm
priest, fascinating. So, how does that debunk what I said? I said I saw long say that when he came to the Raiders, it was just about rumbling. That’s what he said. You come on here and accuse me of lying. You’re really holding up your end of the deal on this whole respect thing, aren’t you? As*hole.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:36 pm
Priest,
In the real world, just because you say “ture (sic) story” after you say something, that doesn’t make it true. You should ask Al, Snyder, and JJ to explain that to you when you have lunch with them tomorrow after 18 holes in the morning. Do you still have Marcus Allen caddy for you guys?
March 1st, 2010 at 11:38 pm
Stevie you don’t know squat about our scouting dept. nada zilch nothing. I know those men because I’ve worked with them.
There are scouting dept. all ovr the NFL that is not as well put together as ours is. But you wouldn’t know that because you don’t NFL personnel you’re just running your mouth on a blog as if you do.
As I said if you want to know something ask.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:40 pm
Okay, you said that if I want to know something to ask.
Where and when did you work with the people in our scouting department and with whom specifically did you work?
March 1st, 2010 at 11:41 pm
MR you said they said just rumble and they didn’t teach him the game or at the very least you implied it.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:42 pm
preist, why do we have to know NFL personnel to know that our team sucks and needs drastic changes in the front office? Can’t a fan just read an almanac and see that his team’s sucked for 7 straight years? Why must we have had to have been employed in an NFL scouting department to have the expertise to look at a team’s 7 years losing record and say, “wow, they suck”?
March 1st, 2010 at 11:43 pm
priest, that’s what long said. He said that when he came to the Raiders, it wasn’t about all of the techinical stuff. It was about just putting on the pads and cracking. I know what I saw.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:44 pm
It’s been a long time son I’m not KK not here to brag or show off. I just hate lies about things that ignorant people carry on in here. I’ve told you a lot more than I should’ve that’s enough.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Do you hate lies that come from the team and Al Davis?
March 1st, 2010 at 11:48 pm
You said that if I wanted to know, to ask. Now I ask you to give me verifiable info and you deny. LMFAO. Why refuse? Because someone could look up staffs and find out that you aren’t on them. You’re busted lying, just own up to it.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:48 pm
MR, that’s bullcrap when Hoie got here he had zero technigue NONE everything he learned he learned from Earl Leggettt who at that time was the preeminent Dline coach in this league. He taught Howie the 3tech and the 5tech well enough for him to make it to the HOF.
Don’t be foolish He also taught Greg Townsend, Bill Pickell and many others we went to SB because of Earl Leggett and Charlie Sumner. Don’t be stupid!!
March 1st, 2010 at 11:48 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 11:25 pm
Northern D, is everything you said about Lombardi, etc, a conspiracy theory, too? Why’s it only a conspiracy theory when it comes from me? What’s it called when it comes from you?
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Nothing wrong with a good conspricay theory.
I didn’t mention Lombardi at all. That was Alford.
I’d much rather read about a good conspiracy theory than all the back and forth name calling that goes on.
Besides, where there’s smoke, there’s fire.
Seriously, you seem to know quite a lot about the Davis early days. Where did he get the $180,000 to buy into the Raiders in the first place?
March 1st, 2010 at 11:49 pm
“It’s been a long time”
So it hasn’t been too long to remember every little thing that was said… but you can’t remember where you worked or when you worked there or with whom you were working? LOL @ TJ’S LYING ASS BUSTED!
March 1st, 2010 at 11:52 pm
RMR,
I am totally on board with the Raiders teams of those years not being as good without Wolfe and Lombardi respectively. I’m not trying to say that Al is/was incompetent, just that everyone is better when they have great people working with them. Al, as he is TODAY, has done a bad job with no high-ranking front office personnel to assist him or with whom to collaborate.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:53 pm
i never said i was on staff because i wasn’t and if i wa you’d never know it you don’t know my real name and you never will.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:53 pm
priesttj Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 11:38 pm
Stevie you don’t know squat about our scouting dept. nada zilch nothing. I know those men because I’ve worked with them.
There are scouting dept. all ovr the NFL that is not as well put together as ours is. But you wouldn’t know that because you don’t NFL personnel you’re just running your mouth on a blog as if you do.
As I said if you want to know something ask.
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Sorry Steve, but I’ve got to agree with Priest here. You sound like a guy regurgitating the same old garbage dork reporters say about the Raiders’ scouting department and the organization in general. Do you honestly have any real knoweledge about who the scouts are and how many are employed? I understand if you don’t. I don’t either. But it’s annoying to hear people run off at the mouth about it without real knowledge of the inner-workings of the organization. In the end, it’s all speculation. That’s why I do my best to stick to what I’m seeing ON the field.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:54 pm
NorthernD,
My guess is that Al had quite a few connections back in Brooklyn to help get the capital. Then again, he might have just gotten a loan from a bank… but to hear him talk about the old neighborhood… methinks there were some doins afoot.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:56 pm
TJ, I asked where and when you worked with them… so if you weren’t on staff, in what capacity did you “work” with them? FYI, staring at them through binoculars and using a sound-amplifier for the hearing impaired to listen to their conversations isn’t “working with them.”
March 1st, 2010 at 11:57 pm
just aint telling you bud, it’s none of your business. so let’s just say i’m lying ok
March 1st, 2010 at 11:57 pm
I’ll add my two cents.
I heard from Lombardi talking on the NFL network.
He said the Raiders scout did their work and made full assessments on all the players. ( I assume they have a full staff of competant scouts)
The problem was that Al would come down the day before the draft and change the order they had the players listed. Hence DHB gets moved ahead of Crabtree, etc.
And that came from Lombardi himself.
March 1st, 2010 at 11:59 pm
NorthernD,
That’s why I mentioned player-personnel and an insufficient scouting department together. The fact that Al no longer has a President of Football Operations and/or a GM to handle personnel decisions or advise him on such things is the reason we’ve drafted only three linemen in what, six years? You can have fifty scouts, but unless they have a full player-personnel department with which to coordinate, that department will be insufficient.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:00 am
Even though you admitted it sarcastically, that’s good enough for me. Did you honestly think anyone besides Debo bought your lines of B.S. about all your ties?
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:03 am
I don’t think it matters if they have a GM. Al has always done that. The GM may have given a differing opinion, but I don’t think it has ever stopped Al from making the final call on a player, or coach.
The only advantage of a GM is that they are young enough to do the things Al can no longer physically do.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:05 am
Debo,
Stevie is another one of these guy’s who has pinion that he convinced himdelf must be true. They’re so frustrated that they don’t know they conjure up any and everything hoping it makes sense.
Al Davis ahs what he feels he needs around him at this time wether we can call the guy a GM or not who knows but he has plenty of people around him that he trust some coaches some personnel people as well as others who may not be on staff but do work for him.
The Raiders will, start winning when all of this young talent starts to produce untill then they will struggle. Hopefully it ends this year.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:08 am
You mean a player personnel director I think they have that and have jhad him for years. lol
what you want is a guy with a title when a guy capable of doing the job is sufficient. Title or no…
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:10 am
SteveAlford21 Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 11:14 pm
RMR,
I think that he doesn’t think he can trust anyone now… and also that his stubborn pride won’t let him admit that he messed up his prized, beloved franchise and needs help from other people to fix it. It seems that he’s just saying, “It’s just a slight hiccup, I have it all under control, you will eventually see the master plan play out and know that I had it right from the start.”
To hire help now would be admitting that he has been inept. I don’t think that Al is capable of such a thing.
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Dude, why do you keep running your mouth about what Al’s thinking? Unless you’re going to surprise me and tell me you are great fiends with him and talk to him everyday, I’ve got to believe you don’t know sht about what he’s thinking. This isn’t the only organization that is struggling. There are lots of reasons that an organization goes through struggles. You’re just popping off.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:12 am
Lol @ having an opinion and convincing myself that it’s true.
You are aware that you can look up the staff, right? Sorry bro, I stated facts about lack of people in certain positions… and the on-field product has been significantly less successful since certain positions became (and stayed) vacant. Argue with it all you want, but those are FACTS.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:14 am
priesttj Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:05 am
Debo,
Stevie is another one of these guy’s who has pinion that he convinced himdelf must be true. They’re so frustrated that they don’t know they conjure up any and everything hoping it makes sense.
Al Davis ahs what he feels he needs around him at this time wether we can call the guy a GM or not who knows but he has plenty of people around him that he trust some coaches some personnel people as well as others who may not be on staff but do work for him.
The Raiders will, start winning when all of this young talent starts to produce untill then they will struggle. Hopefully it ends this year.
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I’m with you man. I hope it ends too. The way 2008 ended, I was sure 2009 would be a jumping off point. But we had such a bad offseason heading into 2009. Not quite sure where to place the blame for that.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:14 am
Am I the only one wondering if TJ and Debo are the same person? No one else agrees with either of them except the other… and Debo hadn’t posted in HOURS… until TJ called him by name in a post just a couple of minutes ago. Either they’re talking to each other outside the blog on phone or messenger or sitting in each other’s laps… or they’re the same person.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:15 am
e could also say since the team hasn’t had a consistent QB the team hasn’t won. It could be that simple. That’s a fact as well. So which is more accurate?
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:16 am
Unless of course, Debo has been sitting here refreshing for hours, not saying anything (even though I addressed him earlier) until TJ addressed him… and then replying instantly. That sounds quite likely…
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:17 am
Stevie, getting paranoid hahahaha!!
Debo, he’s going off the deep end. Hahhaha
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:18 am
How is that paranoid or going off the deep end? All I did was ask a rhetorical question based on logical inference.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:19 am
Adios!! I’m tired
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:21 am
631.priesttj Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:17 am
Stevie, getting paranoid hahahaha!!
Debo, he’s going off the deep end. Hahhaha
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No kidding. Don’t think Steve is a bad guy. But these generic criticisms of the organization are so lame. Come up with an original thought once in a while.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:23 am
How was it unoriginal or generic to state a specific issue? It seems that whenever anyone makes an argument, you just insult their statements or the person making the statement rather than addressing the content of what was said. It’s an incredibly weak tactic in a debate and logical fallacy at its worst.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:25 am
To be more clear, I didn’t say “the organization is messed up” or “Al sucks.” I stated exactly what problems I saw and how I thought they were detriments. There’s nothing generic about that, it’s as specific as specificity gets. Please address the issues presented if you want to try to attain a modicum of anything remotely resembling credibility.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:27 am
Whatever. You’ve worn me out this evening. I’ll be back tomorrow. Come up with something better than the same “we suck because we don’t have a GM” BS we hear all day everyday and we’ll debate. Hell, maybe we’ll even agree. Good night.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:47 am
priesttj and RaiderDebo= Norman Bates and his mother
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:01 am
Northern D, you’re right. These theories about people other than Al running the team are just nutty conspiracies. Al is the Raiders. Every great team the Raiders ever fielded was hand crafted by Al. And, the Raiders will be back. The losing of the past 7 years? Refs sabotaging us. Oh, wait, that’s a conspiracy theory too. Oops.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:03 am
Northern D, what about Elway going to the Raiders, only for the league to stop it? Oh, darn, another conspiracy.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:04 am
Teams that wear black uniforms get more penalties than teams that wear white.
A little conspiracy, a little fact.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:06 am
NorthernD Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 11:57 pm
The problem was that Al would come down the day before the draft and change the order they had the players listed.
……………….
Now, that is not a conspiracy theory. Provable fact.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:07 am
But notice how it’s ok for you to churn up conspiracy theories, NorthernD? But it’s kooky when others do it, especially people you disagree with, or, rather don’t want to believe?
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:08 am
I know Rozelle and Davis had it in for each other.
I don’t think the refs are specifically told to flag the Raiders, but, I do think they know they won’t catch as much flak for making a bad call against the Raiders as they would for another team.
That superbowl with Jerome Bettis in Detroit was a ridiculous game by the refs. I know they play favorites, it’s just difficult to prove.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:08 am
priest, I don’t believe you about Howie being taught everything he knows by an assistant coach. Sorry. No sell. Unless you have proof.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:09 am
It depends on the theory.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:12 am
Interesting takes, Northern D. You go to Berkeley by any chance?
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:15 am
As for Al deliberately trying to lose? That’s hard to believe.
GG said it could be for tax reasons, before he gave it to his kid. That kind of makes sense.
But I just can’t see Al wanting to lose for any reason. He knows his time is nearly up. He’s desparate to win now. To cement his legacy.
The last thing he wants to do is have his last memories of the team in a complete state of disrepair.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:16 am
Berkeley?
Nope. MIT.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:17 am
I’m the night janitor.
No wait, that was a movie I watched.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:19 am
Anyways, I’m done for the night. Ciao.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:21 am
MIT. lol. OK.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:24 am
And, I see no signs of Al being desperate to win. Based upon his upper management hiring, winning is his lowest priority.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:27 am
MRM:
Priest knows for certain that Howie knew NOTHING about how to play football before we drafted him and that he not only didn’t know the rules of the game, but had actually never even SEEN a football… then, our D-Line coach hand-crafted Howie into a Hall of Famer… and Howie would never have even learned how to play the game, much less gotten to the Hall, if he had played for any team other than the Raiders. How does Priest know this? He was there. He was having lunch with Al Davis that day and was explaining exactly how to properly utilize the 4-3 defense. He then gave the entire staff a lecture on player evaluation and teaching technique from basic fundamentals up to advanced moves. He would show you the pictures or tell you about people who were there with him that could verify his claims… or even the year in which it happened… but that’s too much info to give.
“True Story.”
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:32 am
Meant RMR there, lol.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:32 am
Meant RMR there, lol.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:50 am
SteveAlford21 Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:23 am
How was it unoriginal or generic to state a specific issue? It seems that whenever anyone makes an argument, you just insult their statements or the person making the statement rather than addressing the content of what was said. It’s an incredibly weak tactic in a debate and logical fallacy at its worst.
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True dat.
March 2nd, 2010 at 2:09 am
Good morning, Nnamdi (5:09am here in Virginia). How are ya?
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:25 am
Q: Is offensive tackle a position you would’ve wanted to fill last year?
Cable: The way Mario Henderson played to close out 2008, we felt good pretty good about it. As long as we can continue to get him better and improve him, which he’s done, and we’ll make the right decisions that way.
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CORNELL GREEN????????????????????????????????
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:34 am
Of course priest we have the greatest scouts all those Pro Bowlers of the last 10 yrs have been just amazing nobody drafts like the Raiders how has passing Ed Reed for Phillip Buchanon or Rickey Dudley pick oh yeah we just own the draft.
Dmac,Dhb,Huff,Gibson,Washington,
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:42 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Like the way Cable brushed off the question about Walker! “To answer the second part of that question…” Haha!
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:44 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,NOMOREFARGAS.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:05 am
So whats going on…Hey Dirt Lot, did you decide to renew or not? I understand we have until the 25th of this month to put down 25%??? We’ll see…Last year i renewed at the very last minute!
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:16 am
HWNRDR,SPLIT 4 TIX WITH A PARTNER,STILL UNDECIDED,OTHER PEOPLE IN OUR GROUP R DROPPING,SOME HAVE LOST JOBS,LOST HOURS,AND SO ON,NOT SURE WHAT WE WILL DO JUST YET..
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:26 am
Debo on Russell:
The guy never has happy feet. Very poised in the pocket and pays no attention to the rush. Tough as nails. Will step up in the pocket and fire the ball into thhe face of the rush without worrying about the inevitable punishment behind our line. Calm, cool and collected. Can shake off a bad play like it never happened and come back to make a big play. Has a flair for the dramatic with three game winning/tying drives this season to back it up. His arm strength is unquestioned, arguably the strongest arm in football. Forget throwing it 80 yards. It’s the velocity. He regularly fits balls into tight windows.
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JaWalrus couldn’t throw a football in the ocean standing on the beach …
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:29 am
Am I the only one wondering if TJ and Debo are the same person? No one else agrees with either of them except the other…
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LOL @ Steve. the new guy is a quick learner!
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:32 am
S&B Defense makes a bid for a real NT and nobody objects during the entire PM session.
are you guys warming up to the idea or am I just more fun to argue with ???
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:35 am
good morning AM crew!
coffee is on me today.
Gabby will fix you boys right up
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:53 am
RaiderDogg Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Vegas
so you are an old school Livermore transplant? How did you end up in Vegas?
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Sorry bro, I checked out before the craziness that is the nightly KoolKell vs the world battle.
My old man was from Livermore, and played in many local bands throughout the Bay. Played for years with a guy named Ron Thompson, who was won a few BAMMY’s.
Myself, I never lived in Livermore, Hayward, San Ramon when I was younger, than Tracy in my teens. Went to Chico State than went on to conquer Las Vegas.
Let me know if you come out for Burning Man. In my younger days, I would have went out there with a bag of mushrooms, but I think those days are past me.
Go Raiders and Steph Curry for ROY!!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:11 am
Javier Arenas just ran a 4.52…..than pulled up lame.
Arenas in the 3rd round!!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:17 am
I heard that there’s a KR/PR from Florida that wanted to run the fastest 40 time because he wanted to be a Raider…any truth to that? And if so…wow, even the college boys know how to become a Raider if they wanted to…
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:18 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:35 am
good morning AM crew!
coffee is on me today.
Gabby will fix you boys right up
Thanks Rockstar…need it this morning!!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:31 am
Unless I am mistaken…..we have until the 5th of March to renew (probably a good idea to call the 800 number and confirm).
I am not a Kiffin fan, but, “I’M IN!”….and ALWAYS will be.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:43 am
Javier Arenas just ran a 4.52…..than pulled up lame.
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Alphonso Smith 2.0 definately didn’t help himself
4.3 or even 4.4 CB/KR = automatic Raider
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:45 am
I heard that there’s a KR/PR from Florida that wanted to run the fastest 40
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Hwnrdr: are you talking about Jacoby Ford?
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:47 am
Eric Berry just ran a 4.4 flat.
He will go top 5, IMO, and I don’t put it past the Lions to take him at #2 if they don’t trade the pick.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:47 am
are you guys rich?
Do you know I have a white trophy wife?
I sell houses!
I buy property overseas!
I’m so kool!
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:50 am
darren mcfadden & kate gosselin now dating.
12 kids and counting
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:52 am
are you guys rich?
Do you know I have a white trophy wife?
I sell houses!
I buy property overseas!
I’m so kool!
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you also travel a lot, claim to know everything, hate Al Davis and defend all black athletes that have run-ins with the law (even if proven guilty)
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:57 am
Don’t worry guys! Obama is here!
I have a white Wife!! Obama is Prez! Show me some respect!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:58 am
Joe Haden 4.57 than a 4.6 flat.
Yikes!!!!!!!!
Well at least we don’t have to worry about Al drafting him at #8
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:59 am
I am beginning to think extending unemployment benefits for months on end is not a good thing. There are TOO MANY people that come on this blog with way TOO MUCH time on their hands.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:59 am
How much money did Joe Haden just lose?? A 4.6?????
He should have been working on his 40 more, instead of his cool black diamond earrings, tattoos and mohawk he was rocking.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:59 am
Lions have Louis Delmas, Daniel Bullocks & Ko Simpson at safety. no way they take Berry #2 overall
here’s who they got on the DL: Dewayne White, Terrance Taylor, Turk McBride, Grady Jackson, Jason Hunter, Sammie Hill, Robert Henderson, Andre Fluellen, Landon Cohen, Joe Cohen, Copeland Bryan & Cliff Avril.
you might ask yourself: WHO ???
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:00 am
I see the whine and cry crowd is in full effect. Problem is not one of you know a damn thing about football you’re here to whine an cry about a GM and most don’t even know what a GM does. lol
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:00 am
I don’t know if I Can tolerate you people any more!
You are Stupid, ignorant, and uncapable!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:00 am
Yes, that’s his name…Is that true, Rockstar?
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:01 am
He should have been working on his 40 more, instead of his cool black diamond earrings, tattoos and mohawk he was rocking.
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was he “training” with Russell in AZ?
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:03 am
Has anybody whined this morning about our GM?
Where did that come from?
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:05 am
Rockstar,
Never discount the ineptness of the Lions. They had a terrible pass defense, and if are considering trade talks for the #2.
I just see them screwing this up.
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:06 am
Yes, that’s his name…Is that true, Rockstar?
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Hwnrdr: I’ve never read anything where Ford actually said he wanted to run fast to get drafted by Oakland. I’ve read many articles that said something similar, but it was light hearted joking type stuff.
saying Ford would be drafted 8th overall because he ran the 2nd fastest 40 ever. etc etc
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:06 am
I wonder why Mike Mayock and Deion and the entire panel is so caught up with speed if speed is so bad. Their entire focus what the kid times in the 40
yet everyone says it’s a sin when we do it. The best drill is the back pedal and transition drill. Because that’s what a corner does on every play.
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:07 am
Never discount the ineptness of the Lions.
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I think we should offer them Gerard Warren and a 5th rounder in exchange for Grady Jackson & Sammie Lee Hill
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:08 am
Who is Priest talking to?
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:13 am
Priest, you are as paranoid and delusional as Davis himself.
You get handed your ass by one group here last night, and then log back on early the NEXT MORNING to argue the same thing with a totally different group of people?
Save your BS stories for your Raider scout “buds” – this group ain’t buying.
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:15 am
Lions OL: Jeff Backus, Kirk Barton, Gosder Cherilus, Damion Cook, Dylan Gandy, Dan Gerberry, Corey Hilliard, Jon Jansen, Daniel Loper, Don Muhlbach, Stephen Peterman, Kurt Quarterman, Dominic Raiola, Manny Ramirez & Roy Schuening.
43 sacks allowed last year!
running game (Smith/Morris/Brown) only produced 1260 yards & 6 TD’s
again … YUCK!
If the Lions don’t go OL or DL i’ll be very surprised
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:16 am
you wouldn’t know to buy or sell if your life depended on it. keep whinning and crying you do that best don’t overthink it. keep it simple stupid.
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:21 am
Congress votes to outsource Presidency!
Gurvinder Singh of Mumbai, India will take office 03/01/2011.
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:21 am
What’s happening around here?
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:22 am
Priest, are you drunk this morning?
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:31 am
whats the difference between blackholepriest & priesttj?
same guy?
two different davis worshippers?
please explain …
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:39 am
I wanna be…
I wanna be…
Like Mike!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:42 am
RRS, name change came at registration.
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:42 am
rrs, at least he’s smeone who’s dne something in this league you’re a fan of his team idiot.
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:43 am
4.24 40 FOR MAYS!
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:43 am
O: Kirk Morrison?
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:43 am
MWfan,
Run!! Run now, and don’t ever look back!
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:45 am
you’re a fan of his team idiot.
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I’ve made it loud and clear that I am not a Russell supporter!
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:47 am
4.24 40 FOR MAYS!
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are you serious?
welcome to Oakland, Taylor!
Mike Huff: You’ll always have a fan in the Rockstar. it’s been nice groomin’ ya to dominate elsewhere
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:48 am
Charles Davis just said Mays will be the talk of the combine now! How is Al’s hearing these days anyway?
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:49 am
Thanks Rockstar
Have a good day Nation!!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:49 am
Want to see what Kyle Wilson runs from Boise.
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:51 am
“I’m smarter than everyone IMO period”!
‘Russell is the greatest ever period”, “Arman Shields will be the man”, “Nick Miller will be the db killer period”, “DHB has absolute speed IMO period” just some of priest brilliant statements, listen to post game and hear priest get laughed at by the host period!
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:51 am
RR,
I like Kirk a lot, but I think he will be a better fit at SLB like his rookie year.
He is an Aztec!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:53 am
Taylor Mays wore #2 or #29. right?
JR is on scholarship and Bush is hot on the trade block.
avoid the rush. order your #29 Mays jersey today!
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:56 am
O: you said you wanted to be like Mike.
our MIKE is Capt Kirk … just askin’
so if KM slides to strong side, who starts at weak side? Scott or Howard? or your boy Spoon?
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:58 am
new post!
yippee!
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:58 am
Can you imagine a real Priest using that shtick?
“…for thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever and ever. Thou art the owner, and we are just fans. Period.”
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:08 pm
[...] Cable at the combine – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A look inside … [...]
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:33 pm
[...] so I guess for the time being we really should consider him the head coach for the 2010 season, told the Oakland Tribune that it will be open competition for the starting quarterback job. “Let the job be competed [...]
March 3rd, 2010 at 2:20 am
If there is truly an open competition at the QB position, JaMoron Russell will NOT be the starting QB.
In fact, if there is a true competiton — one not based on draft position and salary, but only on merit — for a ROSTER spot at QB, then JaMoron won’t even make the team.
Has JaMoron been hindered by a horrid OL and inexperienced WRs ? Without question.
But the bottom line is JaMoron is too innaccurate and too stupid to succeed at the NFL level, even with a stellar supporting cast.
One day, in the not too distant future, when JaMoron is out of the NFL and his name is synonomous with ‘the biggest bust’ in NFL history — all of JaMoron’s supporters will wonder how they ever believed this POS had a snowball’s chance in hell at being a franchise QB.
Top notch NFL QBs must have accuracy and intelligence.
JaMoron has neither.
The greatest addition the Raiders can make is one of subtraction.
DUMP RUSSELL.
March 3rd, 2010 at 3:57 pm
[...] I’d like to say very big thank you to Jerry McDonald for giving a complete transcript from the Raiders head coach’s Sunday combine interview. To see the full transcript, click the link: http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2010/03/01/cable-at-the-combine/ [...]