Live Raiders chat today (Tuesday) at noon
By Jon Becker
Tuesday, March 2nd, 2010 at 8:50 am in Live chats, Oakland Raiders.
What’s the latest news on the Oakland Raiders? Join Jerry McDonald for a live chat on Tuesday, March 2 at noon PST on our “Inside the Raiders” blog as he discusses the latest updates.
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March 2nd, 2010 at 8:55 am
Hey O, Thurmond’s gonna run the 40 soon. What ya think?
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:55 am
I’m 1st!
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:56 am
no!!!!
4.51
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:56 am
4th?
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:57 am
Who are they targeting in free agency?
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Jerry Mac knows the answer to this question? doubtful.
players don’t even become free agents until friday!
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:58 am
I can’t watch it!!
My daughter is watching Super Why!
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:00 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:58 am
Can you imagine a real Priest using that shtick?
“…for thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever and ever. Thou art the owner, and we are just fans. Period.”
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:00 am
RR,
Did you read my post about Kirk.
I wanted to see what he can do behind a good DL the last 3-4 years, but at this point I want a new DT & MLB, and you know how I feel about Spoon.
SPOON!
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:04 am
O: you said you wanted to be like Mike.
our MIKE is Capt Kirk … just askin’
so if KM slides to strong side, who starts at weak side? Scott or Howard? or your boy Spoon?
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would you draft Spoon 8th overall or trade back up into the lower 1st round and grab him?
does Spoon solve the MLB issue or is he better suited for OLB (like you say Kirk is) ???
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:05 am
Never mind. Thurmond not running today. Just saw his name on the list & than they skipped him! Oh well, have to wait for his pro day I guess. Must not be completely healed.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:05 am
RaiderO I was wrng about Spoon I think he can definitely play MLB if you watch his hips and explosion he is something else he is a player to be sure. I liked him before but I love he kid now.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:07 am
Think Spoon should be able to play the mike position. When asked about having the “mike” in his helmet calling plays, said he did it at MS.
Don’t know about at #8 though.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:09 am
I would draft Taylor Mays and make him a HB with that kind of explosion he would be awesome. His father was a very good HB. He would be a great one.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:11 am
McShay said that even if the Rams draft Bradford #1 , Suh & McCoy will be selected #2 and #3
Suh = Lions
McCoy = Bucs
I can see that. Chris Hovan is 32 years old and Ryan Sims is a 1st round bust like William Joseph.
Dre Moore & Roy Miller were drafted in rounds 3 and 4 last year, but they wouldn’t have HALF the impact McCoy would. They would probably see him as the second coming of Warren Sapp (without the big mouth)
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:12 am
I would reach for Spoon!
I think the kid is a football player, loves the game, and he is a leader. He is 6′1 240, and runs a 4.5.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:15 am
Raider O,
I have to agree with everything you’ve been saying now he is special. His explosion and instincts are top shelf. His ability to read and react and diagnose is special he plays with a lot of fire and can cover which is so rare at that position. Spoon is one bad dude……….period
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:16 am
We need LB help, but we also need a DT.
I really like Lamarr Houston in the 2nd. 6′3 305, and he runs a 4.85! He is a Raider!
BHP,
He can play all 3 LB positions, he is a Football & an athlete. Amazing Talent.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:16 am
would you guys trade Mike Bush to SD in exchange for Cromartie and the dolts 1st rounder?
sounds crazy I know. just a thought
could probably get Spikes, Spoon or Pouncey with SD’s selection. Maybe even Williams or Price!
that would free up Cable to draft a Cadillac at #8
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:18 am
I think the kid is a football player, loves the game, and he is a leader. He is 6′1 240, and runs a 4.5.
He can play all 3 LB positions, he is a Football & an athlete. Amazing Talent.
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sounds like Kirk Morrison 2.0 !!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:25 am
can you imagine walking away from the draft with OT A.Davis, NT D.Williams & C M.Pouncey as your first 3 picks?
SOLID!
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:27 am
Al Davis will probably draft Mays or Dunlap at #8
then the fastest WR & CB in Rounds 2 and 3
then Cable will tote the company line and call it the draft of the decade!
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:27 am
I like that trade a lot!
RR,
He is the same size as Kirk, but he can add weight. He was close to 250 a few month back according to NFLdraftcountdown, he is Faster than Kirk, and he has more Talent. He is not Spikes or Micah Johnson, but he plays man better and he plays sideline to sideline.
Team him up with Lamarr Houston in the 2nd, and that will improve our Run Defense for the next decade.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:29 am
SPOON!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:32 am
Raider O: did you ever watch that cartoon called ‘The Tick’ ???
he was this huge blue wannabe superhero with an out of shape dude dressed as a moth for a sidekick. LOL
always used to say “SPOON!”
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:34 am
Michael Bush is worth Cromartie and a 1st round pick?
Rockstar, did you hit your head while I was gone?
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:35 am
Spoon has twice the instincts of Kirk and is much more aggressive. Kirk is a very good ILB he’s just not a true MLB he doesn’t have that mentality. He can do the job but rarely takes his game to another level.
Spoon’s game is already at hat level……period
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:35 am
MWfan,
Is Thurmond still injured? He didn’t run a 40.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:37 am
I know RR. I loved that show.lol
SPOON!
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:38 am
Dakota: Al Davis asked for two 1st rounders when Jerry Porter was on the trade block a few years back.
for all we know he could be doing the same thing with Bush. SD is clearly trying to move Cromartie to dump his salary and baggage on somebody else. He’s played like DeAngelo Hall the past 2 seasons!
Spiller & Matthews might be off the board when SD is on the clock … Best has injury concerns
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:41 am
Kirk is slow, but he is still a good player. He is an Aztec! LOL
Go Aztecs!!
SPOON!
Legalize it!
Later Gents. I have to go study Econ.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:41 am
Priest: if Kirk Morrison wasn’t doing a great job at MLB, why would Al Davis start him there for the past 4 seasons?
Kirk is a player. PERIOD. get a real NT!
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:42 am
Two first rounders for Porter? LMAO Maybe he will ask for a Ricky Williams type package for Fargas too!
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:43 am
Taylor Mays’s dad was an outstanding HB at Washington St. U and a great HB for the Seahawks but injuries plagued him. I believe Taylor could play that position instinctively and in time excel but his heart has to be in it. I think Anthony Dorsett ran from his natural position and was a very average pro as a result. I think Taylor is doing the same thing. Anthny Dorsett wuld’ve been a much better player at HB I feel the same way about Taylor Mays.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:47 am
Priest: Anthony Dorsett was a better player than you are blogger …
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:47 am
Maybe he will ask for a Ricky Williams type package for Fargas too!
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trade Russell & Fargas to Minny for a 3rd rounder!
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:51 am
trade Russell & Fargas to STL for a 3rd rounder!
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:54 am
Morning Nation
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:55 am
Trade DMAC for Anthony Dorsett!
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:56 am
good morning DMAC!
is Wes Welker…err…i mean… Nick Miller healthy yet?
we need him. without little nicky Russell looked like a bust last year!
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:58 am
please get saint nicholas on the field asap!
the wr corps & st unit look like trash w/o him …
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:00 am
trade the walrus for donald trump’s old hair piece!
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:02 am
anybody seen norcobob?
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:02 am
nevermind. I found Bobby!
http://blog.ivman.com/wp-content/BadHairDayMullet.jpg
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:03 am
Wow. Lowell Cohn ripped JaWalrus a new blowhole.
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20100301/NEWS/100309978?p=1&tc=pg
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:05 am
So is Cable saying Walker is still great but are amazing wr core is just so awesome he can’t break through. Oh well same guy who wanted Kwame Harris can’t believe he even has any job after that.
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:08 am
Damn, I have a feeling Al drafts Haden if he slips past the Brownies.
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:08 am
NMF: the Raiders are probably just trying to shop Javon Walker.
remember when AD thought Walter, Jordan, Rhodes and Schweigert had trade value? LOL
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:11 am
Lowell Cohn ripped JaWalrus a new blowhole.
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I agree with that article 110 percent
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:13 am
Boy you guy’s are funny are you here all week or is it weak. what a freakin bore…..
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:15 am
Jerry, you need to be persistent and press to find out if the Raiders are going to change from zone blocking to power blocking this year. Hook it up
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:19 am
Very good article on Jawalrus. Everything is always giving to these rookie and dont show they are worth a penny.AD trade out of the first round please!!!!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:22 am
A former NFL player told me the issue with Russell is more than being a player, it’s manhood. It takes a certain kind of maturity and guts and character to play quarterback in the NFL, and in this sense, Russell is not a man.
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ZINNGGERRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:23 am
i think the Unitas comment was more of a stinger then that CMC YMC. He is dead and better then Jawalrus WOW
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:26 am
Yeah….yeah….yeah!
I think we can scratch Joe Haden and Taylor Mays off the Raider draft board with the #8 pick hopefully!
Mays ran a 4.45 (way slower than all the hype saying he would run a 4.24 40) and Joe Haden ran a way slower than expected 4.57??
This team doesn’t need to a pick a CB or Safety that high at #8 and it’s not even close.
This SHOULD confirm that Mays and Haden should not and will not be picked at #8…..thank god!
Then again…we are talking about the old looney man Al here….Ugh…
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:27 am
Funny, when Lowell Cohn was shilling for Eddie DeBartolo at the Chronicle, his words meant nothing to the media hating Raider Nation.
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:29 am
If the old man is gonna “reach” at #8, then they need to pick a freakin BEAST OF A FOOTBALL PLAYER, like Suh, Okung, A Davis, Graham and Weatherspoon
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:29 am
Damn it, on profootball talk is sayin Mays ran a 4.24 and everyone is impress and can work with him. WTF!!!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:29 am
Funny, when Lowell Cohn was shilling for Eddie DeBartolo at the Chronicle, his words meant nothing to the media hating Raider Nation.
Just like budget deficits meant noting when George Bush was president, eh Vegas?
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:30 am
“For us right now probably working a little bit on the line of scrimmage and the secondary and some things like that.” (Cable)
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Mark my words……..
A DB will be selected in the first two rounds.
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:30 am
I never even heard of Lowell Cohn.
Whoever he is, he probably isn’t getting any media credentials anytime soon in Alameda.
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:32 am
I say he flops. I say he’s out of the league within two seasons.
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I agree with Lowell Cohn here. a guy that doesn’t “get it” or “want it” as his coaches & teammates suggest isn’t coachable imo.
Defilipo & Hackett couldn’t do it. Kiffin, Knapp, Tollner & Cable couldn’t do it. Davis himself couldn’t do it. who’s next? Hue Jackson
JR has struck out with 6 or 7 coaches the past 3 years. what does Hue have to offer that these other guys didn’t? and I don’t want to hear anything about race!
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:34 am
# DMAC Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:08 am
Damn, I have a feeling Al drafts Haden if he slips past the Brownies.
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Doubt it….since he ran a slow 4.57 40 time. If he ran a fast 4.25-4.35, then I would be worried.
I don’t think it happens now with that slow 40 time. It at least it better NOT happen. Heck even if he did run a 4.25-4.35 40, I still didn’t want the old man to pick him.
Haden is not gonna be all that in the NFL anyway….watch. Serviceable nickel DB’s can be found in rounds 5 or 6 to compete IF necessary.
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:35 am
Kell, why do you hate America?
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:38 am
I think we still need a replacement for CJ. Preferebly in the later rounds or free agency.
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:41 am
Kell: if GWB was black and Barack was white, who would you vote for?
nuff said. now be quiet please
stick to your daily Davis bashing. it’s an asset to the blog
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:44 am
Mays 4.24 was unofficial and officially they put him in the 4.4 range
PHewwww!!!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:45 am
if Cable compared Mike Mitchell to Lott & Tatum, who will he compare Mays to ??
sheesh.
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:46 am
Morning all.
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:47 am
Anything I’ve missed ?
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:49 am
I don’t think Kell hates America….he is just disappointed with America, like most of the people in this country certainly are.
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:50 am
Yahoo Sports has a mock draft with the Raiders taking Dez Bryant at #8.
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:51 am
I think we still need a replacement for CJ. Preferebly in the later rounds or free agency.
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CJ had 58 tackles, 3 INT’s and 18 passes defensed
the year before that he had 31 tackles, 3 INT’s and 12 passes defensed (replacing D-Hall)
CJ isn’t the problem. Nnamdi should be shadowing the other team’s #1 WR. Even still, most of the TD passes allowed came against Routt, Branch, Mitchell or a LB …
get a real NT! if teams can’t run the ball they’ll have to play honest and we’ll have more of a pass rush as a result
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:51 am
Why are you disappointed in America?
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:52 am
And I would be careful speaking for “most of the country” DKnight
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:53 am
What’s the deal with Obama’s birth certificate ?
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:53 am
Here is the way it SHOULD happen on draft day for Raiders but won’t:
1. OT Davis, OT Williams or RDE Graham
2. DT Houston or LB Spoon (Spoon won’t be there though) or an OT like Saffold or Brown
3. LB Micah Johnson
3. QB Lefevour or O-Line or KR specialist
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:54 am
Just asking,being English and all.
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:59 am
If Al goes OL in the first round, it wouldn’t suprise me if he drafted Cambell.
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:59 am
A tiny fringe group of wack-o’s think his birth certificate is fake.
Same as the fringe group who think Bush blow up the towers 9/11
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:02 am
Yeah, Nnamdi should be shadowing teams best receivers, but it doesn’t happen that way. CJ got burnt waaaay too many times.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:02 am
# vegas raider Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:51 am
Why are you disappointed in America?
^^^^^^^^
If you can’t see the problems this country has than I don’t know what to tell ya.
The positive things to look at least with America it is not a third world country and is a “democracy” per say.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:04 am
I’ll tell you the truth Vegas.
It is fake.He’s an Englishman.It’s a conspiracy with Barrack,King George the third and me.We want the colonies back.We’re just waiting for you to stop bearing arms.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:05 am
Saw many Cal games this last season. What do you guys think of Tyson Alualu?
3rd rounder????
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:06 am
Joking aside…..WTF!!!! Is it throw enough mud and some will stick ? Get over it.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:07 am
Flaws and all I still love her.
America has done nothing to ever disappoint me.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:07 am
Nnamdi should be shadowing teams best receivers, but it doesn’t happen that way.
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thats exactly my point. if you’re going to keep a guy on one side of the field, the other team would be stupid not to have thier #2 or #3 WR matched up with N21. example of matchups vs. Dungver
Johnson – Marshall
Routt – Royal
Asomugha – Stokley
looks like a waste of $15-25 million per season imo. N21 isn’t even being challenged
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:08 am
Remember my trade Rockstar ? Still sounds good to me !!
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:09 am
neil: please refresh my memory!
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:09 am
So why not get a better replacement for CJ, if Nnamdi is not going to shadow?
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:11 am
Rams first for the Raiders first plus Nnamdi!!
We take Suh!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:11 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:41 am
Kell: if GWB was black and Barack was white, who would you vote for?
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Barack.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:12 am
…….And before you ask,I don’t have a bump on my head.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:13 am
KoolKell Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:11 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:41 am
Kell: if GWB was black and Barack was white, who would you vote for?
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Barack, and so would YOU!
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:13 am
rockstar
what the hell is wrong with u? most of the td’s came against branch routt, and MITCHELL? why do u keep saying this? he gave up one td in the redskins game. i’ve told u that 100 times. ive asked you to back up ur statement by posting a stat of how many times mitchell was thrown at, for how many yards. i’ll bet you, it’s less than 10. u know why? the guy blitzed most of the time and wasn’t asked to cover much. why can’t u understand this. watch the freaking games dude. again for the 50th time, find me ONE, UNO, reception of significance that mitchell gave up other than the td vs redskins. let me guess the two from the ravens game that netted 15 yrs combined. just asking u for one reception to back up ur point. we both know u cant find it, because it does not exist
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:21 am
“Flaws and all I still love her.
America has done nothing to ever disappoint me.”
And aside from horrible abuses and repression of its own citizens and those of the third world, gentrification, assimilation, globalization, civil injustice and the gradual removal of consitiutional rights, me neither.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:23 am
oh and go Raiders.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:23 am
whats up NE? how u been man?
it’s been a while!
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:25 am
Mike Mitchell is known as Gibson #36
please don’t argue New England.
I’ll quote Milli Vanilli “girl you know it’s true!”
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:26 am
Rams first for the Raiders first plus Nnamdi!!
We take Suh!!
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I’d be all over that like Kell at a Black Panthers Party!
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:28 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:25 am
Mike Mitchell is known as Gibson #36
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Only in Butcher Holler, MO.
Mitchell is already better.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:29 am
Trade DMAC for civil injustice and the gradual removal of consitiutional rights!
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:29 am
So why not get a better replacement for CJ, if Nnamdi is not going to shadow?
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like who? a late round pick or FA isn’t going to be better than CJ! If you want somebody of Nnamdi’s calibur on both sides you’re gonna have to trade for Revis. you’d better believe they’d want a king’s ransom in return
perhaps we could sucker them into taking McFadden & Heyward-Bey?
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:29 am
I agree with you mostly NewEngland Raider on Mike Mitchel.
But the two Ravens receptions he gave up, and looked awful and got yelled at by Kirk, both gave up crucial first downs and Mason’s catch went for 23 yards.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:29 am
Trade Dmac for Milli Vanilli!
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:29 am
O – Thurmond must be just doing interviews. I don’t see his name on any of the drills. Must be saving up for his pro day. Little disappointed, wanted to see what he would run.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:31 am
It doesn’t matter who we’ve got at corner.
They’re going to run the ball all day long.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:31 am
I’ll take Robinson over CJ anyday.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:32 am
Neil thats two much to give up. Rams first for Nnamdi and a third.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:33 am
LA to the Bay,
That’s the America way, always has been and hopefully always will be.
We are not a compassionate bunch.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:34 am
Only in Butcher Holler, MO.
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don’t forget Rooster Poot, Arkansas
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:34 am
I don’t know about these DT’s.
Could be Raji, Dorsey etc. all over again.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:35 am
Dont think Cody will be around in the second either. Could trade back into the second and get Spikes from Fla.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:35 am
Hellsbells….
How about the Rams first and third for the Raiders first and Nnamdi ?
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:35 am
rockstar
did the dude drop the lumber on ur sister? instead of making milli vanilli references, i’m still waiting for that 1 reception rockstar. surely if the guy allowed so many td’s u can come up with one other the the one i named. i don’t know how to get it across to you. u make some very good posts, but your assement of mitchell is skewed. i’ll say it again the guy blitzed most of the time and wasn’t asked to cover. why it is so hard for you to comprehend this is beyond reason. u say it over and over and over, but when challenged to back it up, u cant. im not going to sit here and tell u the guy is something that he isnt, but these receptions u talk about are false. are you playing madden and thinking it’s real life? please rrs just 1 reception of significance. one.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:36 am
Please look at post 59.^^^^^^^^^^
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:37 am
Trade Dmac for Milli Vanilli
That’s not even a two for one deal.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:38 am
Tempting. Maybe 1 and second. Love 21 but if he is not playing against the #1 WR each week he is just game planned out by the opposing OC. Would not ever trade hime if used right.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:38 am
Wouldn’t be a shock Dmac.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:39 am
I’ll take Robinson over CJ anyday.
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you’d pay Dunta Robinson $10-15 million per season?
thats what he’s gonna get on the open market as the #1 CB available
Robinson had 0 INT’s last year and only 9 passes defensed. Texans rookie 4th rounder Glover Quin played just as well as he did last year …
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:40 am
No, not that kind of $$$. IMO, INT’s are sooooooooooo overated.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:40 am
Love it or leave it right Vegas?
Bo, LMAO.
Anybody seen Dakota lately?
He get banned or something.
Shoulda used sh0es instead.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:41 am
Can we all say the biggest problem is run defense. ???
So there is a need right, soft in the middle: D tackle and MLB.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:41 am
Robinson is a RFA I believe. Lets see what the tender on him will be. How about Pacman Jones to play in the nickel?
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:41 am
Hellsbells…
Same here,but whats the point of having the best corner if the other team can run all day ?
How good do the corners have to be if the QB is running for his life with Suh after him ?
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:41 am
vegas
u r absolutely right. on two of the catches it was more to do with not knowing responsibilities rather than the lack of ability to cover. twice in the balti game he started to blitz and was late getting the back out of the back field. rockstar insists this guy gave up huge play after huge play. td after td. not true. the guy was mainly a blitzer. furthermore he has shown me more as a rookie than gibson ever did. he gave up one td in the washington game, and if u look at the replay, nnamdi was behind mm in the endzone in a zone i guess. just before the snap of the ball nnamdi took off towards middle of the field and mm let the guy go probably thinking aso was there. again a rookie mistake. who knows if nnamdi was supposed to leave that area. all can do is speculate. but in no way did this guy allow any reception that had an impact on any game
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:42 am
If u trade Namdi who would u use take his place?
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:44 am
did the dude drop the lumber on ur sister?
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grow up NE.
I said that MM34 stinks in pass coverage and i’m sticking with that until he proves otherwise
my opinion, not yours. leave it alone unless you got something concrete to disprove my comment
repeatedly asking for plays in which he got beat doesn’t make a solid argument for him being solid in pass d
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:44 am
I’d try and get the best free-agent I could GRIM.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:46 am
How about Pacman Jones to play in the nickel?
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not a bad idea if this kid has changed his off-the-field issues. if he’s still not acting like a pro, let some other team babysit him 24/7.
a nickel CB & return man = definate need on this team
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:47 am
The Washington TD was a pretty sweet toss by Campbell. I would let MM more off the hook for that if he wasn’t so far away from it, but if he had tight coverage it still would have been a TD probably.
My biggest concern with Mitchell in coverage isn’t the amount of catches he gave up but how bad he looked when he gave up the few. He is a rookie, so some of that is to be expected, and I am sure he will improve upon it moving forward.
He is a hybrid downhill type. Probably not an everydown SS, and certainly not a FS. But used properly, he can be very effective, and I expect him to be among the league leaders in sacks for a DB next year.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:48 am
vegas
ur good with links and stats and all that stuff. can u find out how many times mitchell was thrown at? yrs also. i’ve tried, but maybe im looking in the wrong place. i enjoy rrs’s posts, but he is completely mislead when it comes to mike mitchell. i just dont get it. obviously he missed a couple assignments, and whiffed on big ben twice, but the guy had a couple sacks, and im guessing at least 7-10 hurries. to compare this guy to derrick gibson is absurd. gibson was good in college, in the nfl he could not tackle and was always getting burned. the gb game when favre’s pops passed, gibson was beaten all game long.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:48 am
No to Pacman. Cable seemed pretty happy that he got rid of the “knuckleheads” and the last thing we need is this clown around.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:49 am
Move Routt to the outside and pray. Could get Suh and Haden with those picks. Get Pouncey and Spikes in the second.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:49 am
….or even think about moving Huff to corner.
I can’t see the point of having the best corner in the league if (A) he doesn’t cover the other teams #1 WR and (B) we have a terrible Run D.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:51 am
I expect him to be among the league leaders in sacks for a DB next year.
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you’re assuming Al Davis will let DC Marshall blitz DB’s at will?
you admit he’s not a great cover man, but AD loves man2man defense. just line up and dominate the guy you’re matched up with. a safety that hits hard, but can’t cover his mouth = Gibson or Roy Williams
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:51 am
The only good thing from Gibson was when he knocked McAffery out of the game (broken leg?? I can’t remember) and the crowd was chanting “RAAAIIDDEERRRRRRRRRRSS” while he was getting carted off.
But I think in my prime I would have been a tough cover for Gibson. ZERO Ball skills. He always seemed close to the play, but never made THE PLAY.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:52 am
Time for me to go.
Been fun as usual.Have a great Tuesday everyone.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:52 am
New England,
I get all my stats from NFL . com.
If you can’t find it on their, it probably isn’t a trusted stat anyways.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:54 am
I can’t see the point of having the best corner in the league if (A) he doesn’t cover the other teams #1 WR and (B) we have a terrible Run D.
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me neither Neil. pointless
get a real NT!
have N21 shadow #1’s and earn that money !!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:55 am
I would trade our first and somebody other than Namdi for their first. Its prettty hard finding a man to man corner in this league.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:55 am
How about we just keep Nnamdi and add a real MLB and draft a DT to play aside of TK.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:55 am
grow up? you called me a girl basically, and then tell me to grow up. go ahead stick to ur guns until u see something otherwise. fine. stop making foolish statements that the guy gave up all these td’s. it’s been almost 40 minutes, and u still have not come back with anything to back up your statements. im not saying he is solid in pass coverage at all. im saying ur wrong when u say he had a hand in giving up “most of the td’s”. did u or did u not say that. one cannot argue either way really, because he wasn’t asked to cover all that much. it has not been proven either way. u continue to state the guy cant cover, gives up huge plays for td’s. find a stat rockstar, shut me up
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:58 am
chat time!!!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:59 am
So, Vegas, the only good thing Gibson did was reveal just how classless Raider fans are?
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:00 pm
I expect him to be among the league leaders in sacks for a DB next year.
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you’re assuming Al Davis will let DC Marshall blitz DB’s at will?
you admit he’s not a great cover man, but AD loves man2man defense. just line up and dominate the guy you’re matched up with. a safety that hits hard, but can’t cover his mouth = Gibson or Roy Williams
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A little harsh on Gibson, don’t you think? I remember him in the “giant” corner role against Gonzalez and he did a pretty good job. Had a few notable hits. It helps that the other safety in the 1st round that year, Archuleta, wan’t a whole lot better.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Vegas, Cable should get rid of the knucklehead who punched an assistant coach during training camp last year, creating a huge distraction when the team should have been focused on what everyone knew would be a season defining opening game against a division rival. Oh, wait, that’s right, it was him.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Gibson was another bust Davis forced Gruden to draft.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:03 pm
vegas
i agree with u about the sacks. this guy seems to know exactly when to turn the jets on and pressure the qb. this guy will no doubt be asked to blitz a lot and come in on certain run packages. i forget if it was the balti or cle game, but mm and huff blitzed from each side and met at the qb. that was a thing of beauty. again, im not foolish enough to say this guy is going to be an all pro, however, i feel he’ll impact games in a far greater way than gibson ever did. i don’t know what else to say. guess me and rrs will have to agree to disagree
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Touche
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Cable should only sign players who are focused and well disciplined, like him.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Why are you guys splitting hairs over players from a decade ago? It’s boring enough when you guys split hairs over today’s players.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:05 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:59 am
So, Vegas, the only good thing Gibson did was reveal just how classless Raider fans are?
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I was there and it was great!!!
A Stanford Cardinal and a Donkey gets no love in the East Bay.
If he broke his neck maybe different story. But it was his leg, he has two of them, and he needed to retire anyways.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Josh Taves was a horrible 2 technique. But his ability to fight weakside guards pulling on trap plays was superior to other strong side defensive ends, especially in short yard situations on grass, in weather 50 degrees or lower, and with grass blades no longer than one inch.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
It was great, watching Raider fans taunt an injured player? Were you abused as a child?
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:08 pm
12:05 [Comment From Robin jRobin j: ]
Hi Jerry. I heard something about a $125,000 study on rather there will be a new stadium in Oakland.
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Hmmmm…..there it goes again with the “rather”
MR, is your name Robin?
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Yeh, I’m Robin.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:11 pm
“most of the TD passes allowed came against Routt, Branch, Mitchell or a LB …”
that is not a foolish statement imo.
did Nnamdi, CJ or Huff get beat often for TD’s ? no.
these guys are all solid in pass coverage. you’re either in this group or the other group
the only plays you can remember him making were while he was on the field in a blitz package (not in coverage). yet you seem to remember 4 or 5 plays made against him in the limited time he was actually asked to cover somebody
so either give me 4 or 5 plays he made in PASS COVERAGE or admit that you’re wrong and drop it …
thanks
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:11 pm
It’s a violent game, don’t be a puss.
Wasn’t Redskins players taunting Miller after his hard hit last year? A guy with concussion issues already?
Just part of the game, guys get hurt, fan’s cheer, and the game goes on.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Vegas, how many games do you think the Raiders are going to win this year?
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:12 pm
lol. did you just call me a “puss”? Vegas, you have a better chance pulling off the Vegas insider, gambling persona than the tough guy persona. Know your limitations.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Vegas, your over/under on Raider wins this year. Let’s hear it. Don’t be a puss.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:13 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Gibson was another bust Davis forced Gruden to draft.
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Real MaddenRaider please name all the great players Gruden and Allen drafted during their 8 years in Tampon Bay, when they had full control of the roster.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:16 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Vegas, how many games do you think the Raiders are going to win this year?
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AFter correctly predicting 5 wins this year, remember when you made fun of me for being this huge “optimist” but I couldn’t get off my “Vegas” persona and couldn’t predict more wins, I will drop some more knowledge on you.
If Bruce starts week 1, no matter what we win 9 games.
If Jamarcus starts week 1, no matter what, we don’t win more than 6 games.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Seymour, I don’t know if I would call any of Gruden’s draft picks in Tampa great, but some of them were good enough to help his team win two division titles, unlike Al Davis’s hand picked talents, who’ve yet to muster up 6 wins in a season since 2003.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:17 pm
When did you predict 5 wins?
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:18 pm
And I like your Bruce scenario…boldly claiming we’ll win 9 no matter what if he just starts week one…knowing he’s not going to start week one. Clever. And, kind of puss like.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Before the season, let’s see if I can find the link.
BTW, you predicted 4.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:20 pm
I would offer to bet you who will start week 1….but we know how that will turn out.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Show me that link. And yes, I predicted 4. They really proved me wrong.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:20 pm
why does mitchell get included in the most part. im cant name u four to 5 plays, just like you cant name ONE. the guy allowed 1 td. how can u sit there and say most of the td’s were given up by routt, branch, or mitchell? im not wrong, because i never said he was good in coverage. did i? again, instead of backing up ur statement with logic, u choose to cower ur way out and twist things around. you have stated over and over for the better part of 4 months that this guy has given up these huge plays and touchdowns that DO NOT EXIST. and at least i can say i remember plays, u r making things up. again rockstar back up ur statement gimme some facts, outside of the washington td, and the 2-3 plays vegas gave u name 1 reception. just one. u want me to admit to being wrong, but u still are hard pressed to prove the validity of ur statement
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:21 pm
We’re betting credibility, on this blog. No need to bet money. We don’t know each other.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:21 pm
I can’t access the live chat. oh well
please let me know if I miss anything good …
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:23 pm
You poor thing, Rockstar. I think somebody’s going to ask a question today involving a 3rd string offensive linemen, and his vertical jump at the combine. You’re going to miss it. Try not to kill yourself.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:25 pm
By the way, I predict 4 wins this season.
Vegas says 9 if Grads starts week one,
and 6 if Russell starts? Or did you just say no more than 6?
Kind of hair splitting, Vegas.
Why not just stop being a puss and tell us how many games you think the Raiders will win, and just factor your qb prognosis into your prediction?
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:26 pm
It SHOULD go like this….
Rd 1 OT Williams or Davis
Rd 2 DT Lamar Houston
Rd 3a DE Austin Lane or C Pouncey
Rd 3b LB Micah Johnson
But the crazy old man Al will probably take Jacoby Ford in Round 2 and screw everything up! LOL
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:27 pm
# Lynn from Snot Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:41 am
Can we all say the biggest problem is run defense. ???
So there is a need right, soft in the middle: D tackle and MLB.
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Yep.
OT, DT, and MLB are the TOP needs for the Raiders!
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:27 pm
After all, that’s what I did. I factored in the possibilities of Grad and Russell starting into my prediction, too. The Raiders will be the Raiders. We can sit here all day and talk about what would be if a certain quarterback started. But we know who’s going to start. Why not just keep it real and give a prediction based upon what you believe is going to happen? If we traded teams with New Orleans, we’d go 14-2. Well, assuming we traded owners, too. But we won’t.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Whatever good we have, Al will ruin it. You guys know that.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Real MaddenRaider please name all the great players Gruden and Allen drafted during their 8 years in Tampon Bay, when they had full control of the roster.
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I second that.
Come on Madden: Start naming those future Tampa hall-of-famers, please.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Couldn’t find the link just yet, I will in the next week or so but did stumble across this beauty:
priesttj Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 8:57 am
Here’s the difference between the last 7 years and now. We have a QB that can stablize this franchise. Trust me that is a HUGE difference. Now biulding a line is not that hard we probably can get by with what we have and still get better.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:31 pm
All right fine….
I have us down for a solid 8-8.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:32 pm
When did I ever say that Gruden picked great players and hall of famers? I just said he picks better players than Al Davis. Gruden won 2 division titles after the super bowl year. Davis hasn’t crossed the 5 win mark.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:33 pm
at least priest speaks his mind. He’s crazy, but he’s no puss.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:34 pm
u still are hard pressed to prove the validity of ur statement
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I don’t feel the need to PROVE anything to anybody. It’s a blog meant for discussion & debate. It’s my opinion that Mitchell = Gibson. get over it
I know that right now. you’ll find out next season if Huff gets cut/traded or Branch gets hurt.
these debates go round & round, just like the ones about Russell & Morrison … there is no concrete evidence. people say what they want to say man and thats cool
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:36 pm
U tell him, RRS. Anyone who uses the term “hard pressed” on a sports blog doesn’t deserve an answer. Put ‘em on instant ignore for that smartass attitude. “hard pressed”. lol. You wish, sweetie.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:39 pm
If Gruden’s replacement in Tampa had won 12 games this year, you guys would be using that as evidence of how bad Gruden was. So I think it’s noteworthy how far they sunk after Gruden left. I think it speaks to Gruden’s motivational skills, at the very least. Gruden is not great, but he’s a good coach and that team misses him. When Al Davis leave the Raiders, however, they’re going to improve by default. Guaranteed the first season after Al is gone the RAiders improve by at least 3 wins.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:41 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:21 pm
We’re betting credibility, on this blog. No need to bet money. We don’t know each other.
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Well I figured you had more money than credibility on here, but who knows
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Al Davis is the biggest morale destroyer in all of sports. You can give Al Davis the New Orleans Saints, same team, same staff, same everything, short of the owner, and they’d go 4-12. Al Davis is a curse. A disease. A parasite.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Anything new?
Has Al come to his senses and fired Cable yet?
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Why would I not have credibility on here? All I do is predict the Raiders are going to suck year after year, and wind up right.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:45 pm
That billboard sure was money well-spent. LOL
I’ve heard the kid has “other” drastic measures if the Raiders continue to ignore him.
I can already picture Big Al quivering in his chair.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:46 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Why would I not have credibility on here?
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Comical!!! Saying your going to buy a jersey, or go out of your way to start up a bet, and than back out and basically say I am a liar, sue me is a good place to start.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Dakota: you didn’t miss much the last few hours
MR still licking the dirt off Gruden’s shoes. Making predictions he’ll never admit to later on down the road
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Garbagekowski got a second round tender? Does that mean we still will not be seeking a legit NFL qb for 2010?
Great…hopefully by 2012 Al will be gone, one way or another.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:48 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Al Davis is the biggest morale destroyer in all of sports. You can give Al Davis the New Orleans Saints, same team, same staff, same everything, short of the owner, and they’d go 4-12. Al Davis is a curse. A disease. A parasite.
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Wow. So profound Madden.
So you’re saying everyone around Al is such a “puss” that they completely melt by his mere presence and lose all sense of morale?
One man has that much power huh? No accountability for anyone around him huh?
I think you just defined what “puss” really means.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Cable + Garbagekowski + Russell + Javon Walker + Fargas + Green + Cooper + Satele + no FB + no NT = 5-11
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:50 pm
MR told me that if Cable’s Raiders beat the Bucs to close out the 2008 season he would be on the Cable bandwagon. He gave it his all to try to prove that Cable was just like Kiffin & Shanahan, even Gruden. the free minds. LOL. then the draft comes and Cable is a puppet again. haha
his opinion changes by the day. just like a woman.
that would also explain the mood swings!
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:52 pm
rockstar
stating that he had a hand in giving up most of the td’s is not an opinion. how is that an opinion? im not arguing ur opinion of mm=gibson. YOU STATED HE HAD A HAND IN GIVING UP MOST OF THE TD’S THAT WE ALLOWED. thats is opinion? do u know what opinion is. no matter how much logic i use in this debate, u twist it around. i ask u to name a single play other than what we already stated for u and u can not. then u challenge me to give u plays he made. i never said the guy was good in coverage. am i speaking english? i challenged you on ur statement that he gave up plays and touchdowns. u just dont get. you’re right rockstar, every touchdown the raiders gave up, it was mitchells fault. every int russell threw, it was mitchell’s fault. every time mcfadden fell down, actually mitchell had a voo doo doll helping him fall. i am not going to acknowledge u anymore. keep on making things up. keep on seeing things that do not happen. just keep on keeping on. oh… and 1 final thing, u still got 6 months til opening day, hopefully by then, you cant find some evidence to support your ‘OPINION’ that he gave up these imaginary td’s.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Rockstar, that is not funny. MaddenRaider has a serious mental disease or defect. Bi-polar mood disorder is no joking matter. We need to support him during the lows and to bring him back down from his highs.
Stay on your Meds MaddenRaider and you can lead an almost normal life.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Cable + Garbagekowski + Russell + Javon Walker + Fargas + Green + Cooper + Satele + no FB + no NT = 5-11
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I see your glass is half empty!
Bruce + Bush + Murphy + Miller + Gallery + Ellis + Seymour + Morrison + Huff + Nnamdi = 5-11
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:58 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Seymour, I don’t know if I would call any of Gruden’s draft picks in Tampa great, but some of them were good enough to help his team win two division titles, unlike Al Davis’s hand picked talents, who’ve yet to muster up 6 wins in a season since 2003.
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No. He won those division titles and one world title with Dungy and McKays guys. Once he took over the roster he drove it into the ground. For the second time. the lst time was here.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:02 pm
you cant find some evidence to support your ‘OPINION’ that he gave up these imaginary td’s.
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why do I need evidence?
I don’t watch the games, remember?
and I thought you weren’t going to acknowledge me anymore?
you and Vegas (his supporters) gave examples of big plays he gave up in your DEFENSE for him. you want me to repeat what you yourself have already said?
wake up!
the dude wasn’t asked to cover very much and when he was he got abused. get it?
limited examples because of limited play.
why aren’t you defending Branch, Routt or the Lb’s?
why do you have such a man crush on MM34?
what has he done in pass coverage?
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:03 pm
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March 2nd, 2010 at 1:05 pm
lmao
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[Comment From Bo Schembechler Jackson Bo Schembechler Jackson: ]
Any rumors about tradin DMAC for picks? Cmon, lie to me Jerry…
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Raid the Ravens! Get Troy Smith, get La’Ron Mclain!!!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Rockstar, the only predictions I make have to do with the Raiders tanking. The last time I predicted the Raiders to be good was 2002, over the SJ Mecury News board. So just what predictions are you talking about that I never own up to?
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:06 pm
40% rise in Natvist, Hate groups in America in 2009′.
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/11/06/dangerous-liaisons-congressmen-to-join-nativist-hate-group-today/
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:07 pm
I like Jerry’s thinking on La’Ron Mclain.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Gruden didn’t stand a chance at building a team in Tampa after they gave up two first round picks and two second round picks to trade for him. The only thing more amazing than the fact that Gruden won a division title after most of the McKay team was gone and without those picks was the fact that the Raiders somehow came away with nothing for those four picks.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:07 pm
So just what predictions are you talking about that I never own up to?
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all of them since 2002
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:08 pm
I have also sent an invite to the East Bay Sick show to every Raider on Twitter. I have a feeling Mario Henderson just may show up…
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:11 pm
It all makes sense now….MR is Randy Hanson. So now his new name will be…RANDYRAIDER.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Mitchell was NOT “abused” in coverage. I can think of 2 plays where he MAY have been a step late oneof the for a TD but it seemed more like a blown coverage than a blatant torching of Mitchell.
Chris Johnson was the guy who got torched alot last year.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Seymour, Gruden won the division title in ‘07 with Dungy’s guys? Barber and Brooks were the only players on that starting lineup from the Dungy era. I’ll agree Gruden took Dungy’s team to the Super Bowl in ‘02. That’s obvious. Just as Callahan took Gruden’s team. But the ‘07 Bucs, Dungy’s team? Ridiculous. Face it, Gruden turned the Bucs after dismantling Dungy’s team faster than Davis turned the Raiders around after dismantling Gruden’s team. Heck, the Raiders are still yet to turn it around. 7 straight years of losing 11 or more games. The Raiders haven’t even won 3 games straight since the Super Bowl year.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Gorilla marketing Dogg, I like it!!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:14 pm
That’s right, I’m Randy Hanson. Hanson is a known Davis puppet, who’s still employed with the team even after trying to press charges against its head coach. That’s me, alright. All praise for Mr. Davis.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Did I say gorilla……guerilla*
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Vegas
You never know, maybe one of them will show. I am getting the word out there.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Seymour Bush, you do know that the Bucs won their division in ‘07, right? What do you mean when you say Gruden dismantled Dungys’ team and “drove it into the ground”? A division title is driving a team into the ground? Do won/loss records and division standings mean anything to you? Oh, of course not. You’re a Raider fan.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Hell I even invited Shaq. I figured with his injured thumb he should have some time on his hands…
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Gruden won the division in ‘05 as well. All of those years Dungy was there, and McKay was GM, they’d go like 9-7 year after year and lose in the playoffs. Seems to me Gruden had them just about at that same status, albeit a little worse, considering Gruden didn’t win consistently year after year. But he did win two division titles well after Dungy’s team was “dismantled”, as you put it. Explain to me just what you mean by driving a team into the ground. Would the Raiders by chance be driven into the ground? Do you want to know what Tampa Bay’s record has been in the Gruden era vs. what Al Davis’s has been in Oakland since Gruden left? Let me know if you want me to pull up those numbers.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Dogg, I hope you don’t end up with MR, NorcoBob and KoolKell arriving to the show at the same time…
Such a vortex of obnoxiousness and ignorance would overwhelm any logical discourse within miles.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:23 pm
youtube.com/watch?v=OYG0NSrWXNU
East Bay Sick at the Burning Man Decompression Session in SF 2009. It’s not the greatest sound quality but notice the hot chick crawling on stage about half way through…
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:25 pm
And, the billboard did do a lot of damage to Al Davis. It served to legitimize the want of Al Davis leaving. No doubt his ticket sales are going to take a hit. It’s cool to hate Al Davis, now. That’s never good. Ask anyone who works with the team, who spends countless hours trying to project the opposite image of Al Davis, that he is great, and being a die hard fan is cool. The billboard is a direct affront to that marketing strategy. The billboard was a success. Al’s going to start seeing empty stadiums.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:27 pm
“Such a vortex of obnoxiousness and ignorance would overwhelm any logical discourse within miles.”
BSJ
That is what I am banking on. MR has already stated that he doesn’t like EBS and Bob is more of a rock guy. KK will probably make an appearance as well as many others. I wish you and Dakota were local, I would buy you both a drink and we could discuss the pro’s and cons of one Darren McFadden. I invited Darren as well…
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:27 pm
I don’t know Bo Chimpbeckler, it would probably be more interesting than your banality.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Why do you think companies flip whenever something is obstructing their advertisement? Image is EVERYTHING. Are you going to say that Al Davis wouldn’t rather there wasn’t a big sign along the freeway that said he sucks? If had a choice between the two? Al is a business man. And no doubt the Raiders are scrambling for strategies to offset the message on that billboard. And, more billboards are coming. Do you realize they gave that kid a discount? Al Davis doesn’t have a lot of friends these days.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:29 pm
The billboard was a success. Al’s going to start seeing empty stadiums.
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So no billboard = sellouts? Your logic is pathologically absent, as usual.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:30 pm
I wasn’t impressed with East Bay Sick. You know who’s tight? Skillz. He’s from Virginia. He does those year “rap up” songs. His new album “million dollar backpack” is tight. He sounds like Jay Z but raps more like Ice Cube. He’s like a Jay Z with tight beats and better lyrics. What Jay Z could have been had he not sold out.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:31 pm
I never said no billboard would equal sellouts. I said that the billboard will hurt ticket sales. I don’t see how that point by default makes the point that if there was no billboard the games would sell out. It’s your logic that makes no sense. It’s a matter of a billboard contributing to an anti Al Davis message that is sweeping the Raider Nation, and it can’t bode well for ticket sales.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:32 pm
MR
Agreed. The Billboard served to legitimize the notion that Al Davis, as Boss of All Things Raider, is responsible for actual results.
Btw, local Oakland longtime fans have been turned off by Al Davis for many many years.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Btw, local Oakland longtime fans have been turned off by Al Davis for many many years.
The hinterlands of the Raider Nation are catching up.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Kell, these die hards like Bo and Seymour are in denial. Look how much the Raiders spend on image, advertising, those goofy commercials that show the dentist, the fireman, etc. wearing a Raiders shirt under their uniform, to give the impression that smart, responsible people are Raider fans. ha ha! How sad is that? Rather than just embrace the outlaw image that gave them the fan base they still have, they’re instead trying to burn the stick at both ends and get normal fans, too? Newsflash, Al: Normal fans want to see wins, or they’re not going to bother. Anyhow, it’s all about marketing. The Raiders know that as well as anyone. That’s why it’s hilarious when die hard fans who are always defending the organization try to pretend they’re not threatened by that billboard. They know they are.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Kell, I’ve been saying for years that Oakland fans have had it with Al. Northern Cali in general. We hate Al Davis up here. I think it’s because we have the niners up here too and the way N. California Raider fans feel is that if we’re not making the niners look bad, then it doesn’t mean anything. We have to be better than the 49ers. LA fans don’t have that rivalry. The Chargers, but the Chargers have never won a Super Bowl. then you have Raider fans in places like Nebraska, Florida…Vegas. They’re not around all of these niner fans. They don’t know what it’s like to listen to their bragging. Raider fans up here need the Raiders to win, to show up snot nosed San Fran and niner fans, or they’re useless.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Report: Hate Group Memberships Explode In 2009
http://cbs4.com/local/hate.groups.splc.2.1531482.html
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:42 pm
I hate hate groups
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:43 pm
MR
Al Davis burned a lot of bridges here when he moved to LA.
He burned the rest of the bridges here when he returned from LA, and promptly sued the City of Oakland for 1 Billion Dollars.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:43 pm
I was reading that about the hate groups, Kell. It’s to be expected. A black president, representing the more liberal of the two major parties. You knew those extremist nuts were going to act up. But we had to do it. We had to cross that threshold. Whatever they try to do, they try to do. We can’t let them sway our opinions. We can’t let the terrorists win, rather they’re overseas like Al Qaeda, or the extreme right wingers here in America.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:44 pm
MR
Also the longtime locals KNEW from jumpstreet, that it wasn’t all Al Davis to begin with.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:45 pm
I feel sorry for hate groups, and refuse to let them deter me. I don’t hate anyone.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:45 pm
I wish you and Dakota were local, I would buy you both a drink and we could discuss the pro’s and cons of one Darren McFadden. I invited Darren as well…
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And I would buy the next four. Tragic, this geography issue.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Gonna get some Chinese food. My stomach hates being hungry. See y’all late.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:48 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:31 pm
I never said no billboard would equal sellouts. I said that the billboard will hurt ticket sales. I don’t see how that point by default makes the point that if there was no billboard the games would sell out. It’s your logic that makes no sense. It’s a matter of a billboard contributing to an anti Al Davis message that is sweeping the Raider Nation, and it can’t bode well for ticket sales.
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The point, dummy, is that ticket sales will go down because of poor team performance and a weak economy. The billboard is just a symptom of the above as well. It does not drive lower ticket sales. Spurious concept.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:51 pm
7 Straight Blackouts last year. the Worst in the NFL.
Lowest attendance figures in the NFL.
While other NFL Teams in the same economy, suffer no such results.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:51 pm
The Pro Bowl will be played before the Super Bowl when it returns to Honolulu next year…
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:52 pm
I read somewhere that the Detroit Lions hadn’t had back to back blackouts in like 30 years……..
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:53 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:51 pm
The Pro Bowl will be played before the Super Bowl when it returns to Honolulu next year…
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Banality illustrated!
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:56 pm
anybody think we should sign a washed up veteran tackle to compete with Mario Henderson and show him the ropes?
guys like Sims, Harris & Barnes in consecutive seasons certainly couldn’t have helped his development. Then you’ve got Cornbread Green on the other side.
Orlando Pace, Chad Clifton, Tra Thomas, Jon Runyan & Jon Jansen are just a few of the names out there. UFA’s that wouldn’t break the bank or demand starting jobs …
March 2nd, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Dogg,
I checked out the link, I love live rap with actual drums. Hope they make a killing.
While we are on it, here’s a link to this group Dubbsack Music that I was involved with many moons ago. BTW, the fat guy white with the tats, that’s my Jamarcus “source” lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwBL7-OZEcI
March 2nd, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Krappy, I tried to warm you last night – during another one of your epic old man meltdowns – that going to the East Bay Sick show would be bad for health.
First off all, everyone there will be 13 years old or younger. They’re all going to laugh at your when you slip a disk trying to breakdance.
Plus, they only serve diet soda at East Bay Sick shows. So you won’t be able to drink the warm milk your accustomed to when you stay out past 7 pm.
Think about it hard, Krap Krap!
March 2nd, 2010 at 2:28 pm
did i miss something? why isnt today’s chat not showing up?
March 2nd, 2010 at 2:28 pm
why isn’t today’s chat showing up*
March 2nd, 2010 at 2:30 pm
JIM OTTO! to be on, Myers/Hartman radio show. In a couple of mins.
http://am570radio.com listen live link, page top.
Or, your local Fox sports radio station
March 2nd, 2010 at 2:52 pm
LA to TheBay: I have the same problem.
under the McDonald’s logo there’s just a big black box you can’t click on …
March 2nd, 2010 at 2:54 pm
909: Jim Otto have anything good to say?
March 2nd, 2010 at 2:56 pm
I don’t know Bo Chimpbeckler
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what happened to the “me and Bo” comments?
LOL
March 2nd, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Iverson done in Philly.
AWOL since 02/20.
I hope his 4 year old daughter is ok
March 2nd, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Otto & Freddie B. among others to be inducted into the California sports HOF later this month…
Otto said he’s “Quietly optimistic.” about next season.
No bombshells, talked alot about the early AFL days, and how the rules of today’s game have taken the “gladiator” aspects of football away. Guys like Tatum and Lott would be just signing their checks over to the league in fines…
March 2nd, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Bo, let’s pretend you’re a Raiders ad exec. Where your entire business is making the Raiders look like the coolest thing since Fonzi. Where every mention or likeliness of the Raiders either helps the team’s image or hurts it. Would you say a billboard calling for Al Davis to jump in a lake helps or hurts your business goals?
March 2nd, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Kell, the blackouts are the least of the Raiders’ problems. They’re a symptom of a more serious disease: Al Davis. If the team wins, people will show up. Remember those sold out games back when Gruden was here, and when the prices were sky high?
March 2nd, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Otto says he’s confident about this team? So what? He’s obviously still connected to the team. He frequently sits with Al Davis during games, doesn’t he? What’s he supposed to say, that the team is going to suck? What kind of source is he?
March 2nd, 2010 at 3:53 pm
California has the second highest number of hate groups identified by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Tell me again how liberal this state is?
March 2nd, 2010 at 4:11 pm
I’m starting to feel a little hateful…
March 2nd, 2010 at 4:21 pm
The Southern Poverty Law Center must have counted those groups who hate Al Davis.
March 2nd, 2010 at 4:26 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 3:53 pm
California has the second highest number of hate groups identified by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Tell me again how liberal this state is?
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2nd biggest state, 2nd most groups.
Really not the hard to understand.
March 2nd, 2010 at 4:32 pm
A state being labeled as liberal by its right wing critics should probably still have a few less hate groups, Vegas.
March 2nd, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Plus, Vegas, your point attempts to equate political extremism, particularly racism, with populism. I do find that hard to understand, because it’s absurd.
March 2nd, 2010 at 4:36 pm
I’m not aware of any groups that hate Al Davis, twocents. I’m not certain of the SPLC’s criteria for defining hate groups, but I’m guessing a group has to have made some physical threat to any group of people at some point. I don’t know of any groups that have threatened Al Davis. Your idea that critics of Al Davis qualify as a “hate group” as defined by civil libertarians is melodramatic at best.
March 2nd, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Well Orange County is typically one of the most conservative counties in the country, so I am sure there is plenty in that area.
And while you find it “hard to understand” that populism has something to do with statistical measures of extremism, the fact that the 2nd biggest state has the second most groups, directly correalates the two.
Let me guess, Texas has the most groups right? And let me guess, RI and Deleware have the least??
March 2nd, 2010 at 4:45 pm
I love the whole right-wing extremism angle these days.
They tried to play that up after a courthouse shooting out here. Rumors were running wild of this guy who was fed up with his country and took to shooting the courthouse. His name was Sammie Lee, he had to be a right-wing extremist right?? News stations were running with the sensational story.
Turns out he was a black guy, who was suing the state because Nevada wouldn’t give me the same amount of welfare as California would.
It went from a national story to no story overnight.
March 2nd, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Jeez MR, it was an attempt at humor.
However, it seems that you are implying that hate only exist on the right side of your fictitious spectrum.
March 2nd, 2010 at 4:48 pm
I guess a left-wing terroist, who killed two people, wasn’t newsworthy.
March 2nd, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Vegas, I was never aware of “Sammie Lee” being a national story, either. Don’t think it was that big of a story either way, even when they thought he was a right winger. But if you’re saying the media was making a big deal out of a guy flying a plain into a building being a right winger, should they not? Considering their anger and threats, and the fact that they are now putting it into action? I think it deserves attention. Bottom line is that right wing domestic terrorism is a bigger threat than left wing domestic terrorism today. You guys are still living in the Bush era. Perhaps it’s by choice.
March 2nd, 2010 at 4:59 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Seymour, Gruden won the division title in ‘07 with Dungy’s guys?
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The main guys on that team, were Alstott, Derrick Brooks, Brian Kelly and Ronde Barber. And all those guys were Pre-Gruden and all the aged veterans Gruden went out and got did nothing and he developed no one. Sounds an awful lot like here. Funny how Jon Gruden doesn’t have 10 offers to coach in the NFL. There’s a reason for that. (See Raiders, Oakland) and Tampon Bay (2009-present). He left both in shambles.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:00 pm
You know Al is dying to figure out a way to draft Taylor Mays right now. But I can’t see him adding another safety into the mix.
The only viable option I can see — unless Al says what the hell and picks another safety anyway — is to pop Mays in at linebacker. He obviously has the size and more than enough speed for the position. Not sure if he plays physically enough or not though. Even if you can deliver hits in the secondary it’s not the same as shedding blocks of 300+ pound linemen and 250 pound FBs charging at you play, after play, after play.
But if we stick with the best athlete available philosophy I think we go with either Mays or Bruce Campbell. Can’t say I’d be a fan of either pick.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:01 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:45 pm
I feel sorry for hate groups, and refuse to let them deter me. I don’t hate anyone.
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You hate Al Davis. Didn’t you say that just yesterday.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:01 pm
If California was a liberal state, even a population rise shouldn’t rise the number of hate groups, as well. Where do people get the idea that California is liberal if the number of hate groups rise with the population at the same rate as Florida and Texas, two states never considered liberal?
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Nobody died in the plane.
Two people died at the courthouse.
You tell me why one was national headlines, and the other was a national story until the facts came out.
I was watching CNN that day, and they were talking about how Harry Reid’s office was at the courthouse, and while not saying it directly saying, implied it was some crazy white right-winger.
The double-standard of the media was exposed right before my eyes.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:05 pm
I think it comes down to population, liberal or conservative.
The more people you have, the more fringe groups you will have.
KoolKell’s link supports this theory.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Barack is going to talk tomorrow about passing this health care bill through “reconcillation”.
They will do this, because they know they are about to get smashed in a 7 months and the super-majority will be gone.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Seymour Bush….
Alstott and Brian Kelly? Alstott had his neck injury and didn’t play in ‘07. Kelly hardly played in ‘07, as well. And, I already mentioned Brooks and Barber. Two players. Brooks and Barber. That’s all that was left of Dungy’s team, and you’re saying those two alone carried the ‘07 Bucs to the division title? Never mind Garcia (pro bowl), Graham, and Galloway?
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:12 pm
There’s no such thing as left-wing hate groups, is there?
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Oh, nobody died, ok, Vegas. It’s ok to fire a gun into a crowd of people. If nobody dies, it’s perfectly safe.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Vegas, again, how liberal can California be if the number of hate groups are rising with the populations at the same right as non liberal states such as Texas and Florida? I get what you’re saying. More people, more hate groups. But if a state is liberal, shouldn’t it affect such trends?
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:14 pm
Are there any left-wing tree hugging armed militias out there?
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:16 pm
Where are all the left-wing, gun toting, flag-wavers?
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:18 pm
I know one guy that Gruden drafted that was on that 2007 Bucs team.
Bruce!!!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:18 pm
It doesn’t matter what our President says or tries to “reconcile”. If cannibis becomes legal in California — THERE is your health care!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:20 pm
NFL Networks analysts said today was the biggest day of the combine because of the DBs.
They claim “Its a passing league now” “with twelve teams throwing for over 4 thousand yards last year. Thats never happened be fore!”
“Its a vertical Leauge.”
So, is Davis a fuh-kin lunatic or is he correct in TRYING to implement the vertical passing game?
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:20 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:16 pm
Where are all the left-wing, gun toting, flag-wavers?
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Do you mean RIGHT-wing, gun toting flag-wavers?
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:21 pm
MR, can I propose a new spectrum?
On the right, anarchy. On the left, totalitarianism.
It may surprise you to know that the Founders set us up just to the left of anarchy.
It isn’t utopia, but men of character can endure.
To quote Jefferson, ” There are two threats to free men, criminals and government. Let us take care of one of them.”
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:22 pm
Good evening, Raiders fans (8:22pm here in Va). I’m too lazy to scroll up, so what’s the topic other than hate groups, legalized weed, and firing into crowds?
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:24 pm
KoolKell,
Ever hear of SHAC? From wikipedia:
The Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors U.S. domestic extremism, has described SHAC’s modus operandi as “frankly terroristic tactics similar to those of anti-abortion extremists.”[3] The campaign has used tactics ranging from non-violent protest to the alleged firebombing of houses owned by executives associated with HLS clients and investors, and several SHAC activists have been convicted for their role in the campaign. In May 2005, an official with the FBI’s counterterrorism division included SHAC in a list of what he called special-interest extremist movements that he said are the “most serious domestic terrorism threats” in the U.S.[8][9] In 2009, a number of senior members of SHAC, including Avery, James and Dellemagne, were jailed for between four and eleven years on conspiracy to blackmail charges.[10]
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:24 pm
That’s fascinating, twocents. But the reality is, right wing extremists in America are a bigger threat than left wing extremists.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:24 pm
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.”
-Thomas Jefferson
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:25 pm
To expand on that… there has been no blood shed for our own freedom in over 200 years… and the tree of liberty in this country withered and died long ago.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Of course you haven’t heard of SHAC, you recieve only ideological news!!!
Sorry, I should have known
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:26 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:20 pm
NFL Networks analysts said today was the biggest day of the combine because of the DBs.
They claim “Its a passing league now” “with twelve teams throwing for over 4 thousand yards last year. Thats never happened be fore!”
“Its a vertical Leauge.”
So, is Davis a fuh-kin lunatic or is he correct in TRYING to implement the vertical passing game?
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Correct in thought; horrible in the implementation. You don’t throw all your hopes into a high first round pick at the flash-and-dash position of receiver who doesn’t even grade out among the top four at his position. Now, if we pick up the Davis kid and perhaps pick up a free agent O-lineman as well, fix up that offensive line, then perhaps we can start to stretch the field a little — start to work in DHB a little more. Perhaps by the time the season starts, Johnnie Lee will have shed all his nightmares too (one can only hope!)
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Seymour, still here? Please explain to me how Dungy’s old players carried the Bucs to their ‘07 title, when there were only two of them…and when they also had a pro bowl QB on offense acquired during the Gruden era, with two offensive players with a thousand yards from scrimmage also acquired by Gruden.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:28 pm
# SteveAlford21 Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:22 pm
Good evening, Raiders fans (8:22pm here in Va). I’m too lazy to scroll up, so what’s the topic other than hate groups, legalized weed, and firing into crowds?
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Doesn’t that pretty much sum up our blogging group?!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:29 pm
More on SHAC:
In May 2006, an anonymous group said it would be writing to every one of GlaxoSmithKline’s 170,000 small investors warning them to sell their shares, as part of the campaign against Huntingdon Life Sciences. The letters began arriving at investors’ home addresses on May 7, 2006, asking that shares be sold within 14 days, and that the group should be informed of the sale by e-mail via a hotmail address. It added: “We will be checking that you have done this. The choice is yours
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:29 pm
Vegas, the reason we haven’t heard of whatever group you pulled from the bottom of the barrel to try to make it seem as if left wing terrorism is as big of a threat as right wing terrorism is because they haven’t done anything.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Vegas,
Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty
(SHAC) is an international animal rights campaign to close down Huntingdon Life Sciences (HLS),[1] Europe’s largest contract animal-testing laboratory. HLS tests medical and non-medical substances on around 75,000 animals every year, from rats to primates.[2][3][4] It has been the subject of five major leaks or undercover investigations by activists and reporters since 1989.
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You’re soooo disingenuous.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:33 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Vegas,
Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty
(SHAC) is an international animal rights campaign to close down Huntingdon Life Sciences (HLS),[1] Europe’s largest contract animal-testing laboratory. HLS tests medical and non-medical substances on around 75,000 animals every year, from rats to primates.[2][3][4] It has been the subject of five major leaks or undercover investigations by activists and reporters since 1989.
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You’re soooo disingenuous.
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Maybe SHAC will purchase the rights to Michael Vick!
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Oh what happened, your beloved Southern Poverty Law Center calls a left-wing group terrorists and you don’t like it.
Disingenuous?? These guys have been CONVICTED of fire-bombings, murder, black mail and public intimidation.
Who the fck are these guys? The mob?
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Anybody who’s trying to equate the SHAC with the likes of teabaggers, minutemen, and other right wing hate groups moving into the mainstream has a lot of room accusing others of getting their info from ideological sources…
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Sorry, Vegas, never said I “loved” the Southern Poverty Law Center. They were the ones who came up with the study today, that’s the only reason I mentioned them.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Was taking to Mr “provide a link to a great study by the Southern Poverty Law Center” KoolKell more so.
Tell me, how many teabaggers have had any such charges even brought against them, better yet been convicted of them?
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Vegas, You Republicans will tell any kind of lie there is to perpetuate power for Republicans/Corporations
Like WMD’s in Iraq
Death Panels in Health Care.
Now, left-wing terror groups.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:39 pm
It’s the threat, Vegas, and the fact that right wing extremist groups have been moving into the mainstream since Obama’s election. I’m thinking that the right fears that they won’t win the white house again, so they’re considering resorting to terrorism to keep what they perceive as “their” country.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:40 pm
To change the subject COMPLETELY, what I want to know is this: If Chad Ochocinco wins DWTS, will he change his name to Ochocinco Barishnikov (or perhaps Chad Astaire)?
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Tell me where I SPECIFICALLY am lying?
Don’t bring others into this into debate.
I don’t speak for them
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Sorry TBone…out of weed and a little on edge today
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Are you really that addicted to pot, Vegas?
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:45 pm
I dont’ believe anyone should be addicted to anything. You should really quit if you get edgy when you don’t have it. It’s supposed to be for recreational and medical use. unless you are using it medically to relieve stress. didn’t know your life was that chaotic. You always act like you’ve got life by the horns.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:45 pm
Vegas Raider Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Tell me where I SPECIFICALLY am lying?
Don’t bring others into this into debate.
I don’t speak for them
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When you equate an Animal Rights extremest group to political hatred, that is a damned lie by deception.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:46 pm
No prob, Vegas — here, have a “virtual toke” (on me). You’ll start to see wonderful, magical things — like a fourth Super Bowl Trophy … or perhaps, something a little more reasonable — like a certain someone NOT wearing #12 anymore. They should re-assign DHB the number 6 – isn’t that about the number of cathces he had last year?!
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Can’t believe ‘Nova was only laying 3 points today.
Former top 5 team against an almost .500 team?
Looks likes I might be taking candy from a baby.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:47 pm
“cathces” — that’s FAS!
Maybe I’d better switch over to Patron!
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Where did Seymour go? He said that Dungy’s players carried Gruden and the ‘07 Bucs to their division title. I proved that wasn’t the case, and would be more than happy to prove it again. But he bolted.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:48 pm
When you smoke multiple times a day, since you were about 12 years old, it’s beyond an addiction.
It is a function of living.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Browse Hate Groups By Ideology, and see where the hate lies.
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/ideology
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:49 pm
# vegas raider Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Can’t believe ‘Nova was only laying 3 points today.
Former top 5 team against an almost .500 team?
Looks likes I might be taking candy from a baby.
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If you want to score BIG, lay it down on Duke as a #1 seed, only to fall in the second round of the Tournament.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Tbone,
I think DHB will have 5 TD’s next year.
He may only have 15 catches, but I think they can utilize him in the red-zone like they did in the Dallas game.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Vegas, what was going on with you as a kid? I thought you had a good upbringing? Being addicted to pot at 12? I didn’t even try it till the 8th grade, about 14. That’s young, too. But that’s a big two years beyond 12. I was just a kid at 12.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:53 pm
# vegas raider Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Tbone,
I think DHB will have 5 TD’s next year.
He may only have 15 catches, but I think they can utilize him in the red-zone like they did in the Dallas game.
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The Dallas game?! The Dallas game?!
Oh, you must be talking about the pre-season game
(I have wiped the Thanksgiving Day debacle away like the horrible tur-duck-en that I ate!!)
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:54 pm
I wouldn’t say I didn’t have a good upbringing, but I was a wannabe remember? I had a brother that was 3 years older than me, and he was who I smoked with at first.
By the time I was 15, I was getting high with pops.
Dude I’ve lived a wild-life. How many 29 years old do you know who are on blood pressure medication and are about 50/50 grey hairs (or as I call it Silver and Black)
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:54 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Vegas, what was going on with you as a kid? I thought you had a good upbringing? Being addicted to pot at 12? I didn’t even try it till the 8th grade, about 14. That’s young, too. But that’s a big two years beyond 12. I was just a kid at 12.
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Wake up Maggie, I think I got something to say to you;
It’s late September and I really should be back at school …
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:55 pm
I heard that Taylor Mays ran a 4.2 something but it was later retracted…..whew……Al Davis would have had a hard time picking between Mays or Campbell….”so many good players in this draft” LOL
Seriously, the guys on satellite said that Campbell is at least 2 years away from being pro-ready. He looks like a 4th or 5th rounder on tape.
Al, NO MORE DEVELOPMENTAL PLAYERS IN THE 1ST FREEKN ROUND
I hope Al is tired of paying for Senior Year in college for these guys.
Get a guy that can play on day 1.
Taylor Mays and a sub-4.3 would have been HORRENDOUS
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Oh boy…as soon as I open my mouth, Nova starts blowing it
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:57 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:55 pm
I heard that Taylor Mays ran a 4.2 something but it was later retracted…..whew……Al Davis would have had a hard time picking between Mays or Campbell….”so many good players in this draft” LOL
Seriously, the guys on satellite said that Campbell is at least 2 years away from being pro-ready. He looks like a 4th or 5th rounder on tape.
Al, NO MORE DEVELOPMENTAL PLAYERS IN THE 1ST FREEKN ROUND
I hope Al is tired of paying for Senior Year in college for these guys.
Get a guy that can play on day 1.
Taylor Mays and a sub-4.3 would have been HORRENDOUS
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If he had run a sub-4.3, he never would’ve made it to us (Cleveland or Washington would’ve snapped him up).
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:58 pm
I also see Priesttj prepping us for a possible Taylor Mays draft pick. Talking about him being a running back because he’s explosive and his father was a great running back in college.
I would say….let’s put a hold on experiments until we can develop a player not named Asomugha or Miller.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Taylor Mays? NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!!!!!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Raidert,
Mays is a late 1st round pick. Speed isn’t everything. Eric Berry looks good on tape, that’s why he’s a consensus top 5-10…Mays has gaps…that’s why he’s late 1st round.
A 40x won’t change that for teams with front offices that actually use film to make decisions
If Mays was under 4.3, the Raiders would start making jerseys today.
We had Priest starting to get us prepared for the Mays landing….fortunately they revised that 40 number
Now we can hopefully get a player that can actually help us.
Just have to HOPE the Raiders actually watch film on this Campbell kid and realize he’s not top 10 material
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:02 pm
If Al drafts Taylor Mays, I will be worse than KoolKell
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Unbeliavable…Villanova hasn’t scored in 7 minutes of game play
The hex of all hexes I put on
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:05 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Raidert,
Mays is a late 1st round pick. Speed isn’t everything. Eric Berry looks good on tape, that’s why he’s a consensus top 5-10…Mays has gaps…that’s why he’s late 1st round.
A 40x won’t change that for teams with front offices that actually use film to make decisions
If Mays was under 4.3, the Raiders would start making jerseys today.
We had Priest starting to get us prepared for the Mays landing….fortunately they revised that 40 number
Now we can hopefully get a player that can actually help us.
Just have to HOPE the Raiders actually watch film on this Campbell kid and realize he’s not top 10 material
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I agree totally. If Campbell was available in the second round, I would say “good pickup”. If we draft him #8 overall, I say “Step aside, Tony Mandarich; we have a new potential All-Time Offensive Line Bust King!”
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Sorry Vegas — that “hit” I gave you must’ve been a little too strong!
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:13 pm
This is why my blood pressure is so damn high.
Got $110 on a team to win by 3. They are up 17 with 10 minutes to go, and now it comes down to free throws.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:15 pm
I don’t get the Rod Steward lyrics, t bone. You a fan of his? That jingle’s a bit before my time. Grew up in the ’80s.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:17 pm
If your blood pressure is high at 29 and you’re not fat, you’d better get constant medical attention. Your arteries can’t be in good shape. Having the spare tire is the only reason you should have high bp in your 20s.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:18 pm
Vegas, I’m just asking because the story of your upbringing just doesn’t match your persona for some reason.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:20 pm
Stress-related, like this damn game.
Up 8 with 10 seconds to go, give up a 3, turnover another 3.
With out any weed, this isn’t going to end well.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:20 pm
Where did Seymour go? Seymour! I need you to elaborate on your point that Dungy’s players carried Gruden to his ‘07 title. There were only two Dungy players who played on Gruden’s 07 team. Garcia, Graham, and Galloway also put up big numbers with Garcia being a pro bowler. None of them are Dungy’s guys. All Gruden acquisitions. So what’s up, man?
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:22 pm
Phew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:23 pm
I love you Scottie Reynolds
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Raidert,
That’s why the Raiders have all these busts and late bloomers. They are forced to start players that should be on the bench way before their time beause of their bloated contracts.
JaDavis, Huff, DMAC, DHB…none of them ready for primetime.
Davis drafts like he’s at the bottom of the 1st round when he’s consistently in the top 8.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:24 pm
What’s my “persona”?
Really I just like to argue a lot. Hence, again, the BP.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Vegas,
It would be downright awful if Davis goes to script this year with all the good talent that is actually in this draft.
I can still see Goodell on the podium saying “Raiders select, Bruce Campbell, Tackle Maryland” Then Mayock and company opining about this is the Raider way…
Meanwhile, yet another player on the roster that needs someone to hype him up as a good decision when the truth blatently says otherwise.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:25 pm
That’s because Al Davis thinks he already has a good team. He doesn’t go by wins and losses, like every other owner in professional sports. He goes by wins and losses from 3 decades ago. How can we be a bad team? We had the sea of hands play! That’s how Al Davis thinks.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Real MaddenRaider,
Davis also thinks you can coach the other stuff and that selecting players is mostly athleticism.
Unfortunately, Davis doesn’t hire or retain good coaches very long.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:27 pm
The way you act in here, Vegas. The image you project to the rest of us. You sound like you have it all together. But you’re telling me you smoked pot with your dad at 15, which is way too young to smoke pot, and most people who do smoke pot at that age have a lot of alcohol and drug problems when older, and that you still smoke it today? I’d believe it if you lived in a trailer park and smoked meth, too. But since you live in a good area and make decent money, based upon your comments, your childhood story sounds a bit too action packed.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:27 pm
SnB,
Call me crazy, but I think Al might get it right in the first round this year.
A broken clock is right twice a day, right? That’s my hope
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Al Davis thinks his Organization & Systems are idiot proof. Forged by his genius in the early years. Therefore the non-respect of coaching & chemistry.
The delusions are all in his head, he thinks he can plug in Ht/Speed to his template, and produce greatness.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Action-packed, lol
When you condense 12 years into a handful of stories, it will come out that way.
But drugs and alcohol are a way of life. You got to play the hand you are dealt. Thankfully, I am a good bullshyter and thus a decent salesman, so things have worked itself out.
But we burn the candles on both ends. Pops died before he hit 50.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Huff and McFadden were considered sure fire picks.In fact both were considered the safe picks in the draft.Russell was also considered a sure fire choice.Almost every scout and personnel man said the same thing.Quit trying to rewrite history.DHB was also considered a 1st rd pick.maybe he was picked too early,but most of you said it’s ok to take someone early if he is really the player you want.The problem is he wasn’t the player YOU wanted,therefore you hate him.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:31 pm
That’s it? That’s the extent of optimism we can have in Al Davis anymore? That a broken clock is right twice a day? That means he’s a broken clock, hence, broken. that means he’s useless. That means we can put anyone into his position and they’ll, at the very least, do just as good as him. And as it stands, everyone in his position in his industry has. It is scary how bad Al davis is.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Did Jerry land Rasputin as an advertiser at the top of the page?
Sweet!!! The Berkely store is legendary
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Vegas Raider, there is absolutely nothing normal about smoking pot with your father at age 15. It’s child abuse, period. 15 is way too young, and a responsible, pot smoking adult knows that. Your father was a criminal and a child abuser. Your childhood was traumatic, not cool, nor normal, nor a “way”. It was an abusive environment. But now you’ve got it all together, in Vegas, married, you earn enough money to piss away on betting college basketball, and you still toke from time to time? Doesn’t add up, Vegas. Guys who smoked pot with dad when they were 15 are either done with drugs outright, or smoking crack.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Lefty
Russell WAS a sure fire pick
Dmac WAS a sure fire pick
DHB WAS NOT.
But how can you bust out on 3 straight top 8 picks? The Laws of Averages would be against you.
-The Raider Organization is a Death Knell for Players.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Lefty12,
I guess you are right. Just frustrating that Raider fans have to see bust after bust after bust and a litany of excuses as to why the Raiders are where they are.
Litany of excuses for a p&ss poor run defense that no one wants to improve….excuses as to why a guy average less than 4 per carry deserves more carries than the guy averaging just under 5 per carry..
Whatever happened to “Just Win Baby”
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:39 pm
When you start that young, you try, experiment, and in my case, move on from the hard-stuff by your late teens.
My childhood was not traumatic, I worked at McDonalds, had girlfriends, and played baseball nearly year-round.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Vegas Raider, if your father was smoking pot with you at age 15, your childhood was f’d up, no way around it. It’s one thing to get high with your friends at 15. It’s another thing for your father, a parent, an authoritative figure, to pass it to you. That’s a complete breakdown of emotional security. And, again, you show me anyone who was getting high with their father at age 15, they are either sworn to sobriety by 25, or smoking meth off of tin foil.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:44 pm
And DHB was a dreadful pick. He should have been drafted later and allowed to ease into the lineup.
Nope, Davis thought he was Cliff Branch in a box…and threw him out there when everyone knew he wasn’t ready….then have to use words like “decoy”
Lefty, these top 10 picks are KILLING the Raiders. These guys are supposed to contribute/show improvement in year 1….we are having to wait until year 4 just to see some improvement.
This team will never win until it starts getting decent players in the top end of the draft.
They would seriously be better off trading their picks for lower picks…even if its pick for pick.
Right now Bruce Campbell and Taylor Mays are top of mind for Davis. We’ll see what happens
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:44 pm
KK- DHB was said to be a 1st rd pick.In fact it was said the Giants wanted him.Now he was projected as a later 1st rounder but a 1st rounder none the less.If I remember right,you were on the Mack bandwagon and said we should take him if he was the player we wanted-even if it was too early.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Good evening to my dear friends in here.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:45 pm
Al Davis doesn’t want to win. He wants to win his way only. Al Davis is doing nothing, and I mean nothing, indicative of an NFL owner who’s serious about winning.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:45 pm
Golly,..I see there are still some in here that struggle with Al Davis.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:45 pm
I’m a Realtor, when you go into a elders home, you immediately notice the pink/purple bathroom tiles. The Olive-colored electric appliances. The linoleum kitchen flooring. The 1960 circa television, etc, etc, etc.
The Raiders House, circa 1967.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:46 pm
Norco, how is anyone “struggling” with Al Davis?
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:46 pm
MR,..you are a young, hip Sactown dude,..whats with you letting Old Al bother you bro?
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Call it what you like old buddy, but you sure seem to let him bother you alot,…Im trying to understand why,..please help me.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:48 pm
Norco Bob, why does my “struggle” with Al bother you? What concern is it of yours?
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:48 pm
By he way bro, I got into it with Grant today on the air,..regarding Curry and Evans,..rookie of the year debate….Grant has been extra nesty since his wife filed for divorce.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:48 pm
Nasty I mean.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:48 pm
Don’t listen to sports radio, Bob. But I see you “struggle” with Grant Nappear. Your’e a hip, Placerville dude. Why does he get to you so much?
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:49 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:45 pm
I’m a Realtor, when you go into a elders home, you immediately notice the pink/purple bathroom tiles. The Olive-colored electric appliances. The linoleum kitchen flooring. The 1960 circa television, etc, etc, etc.
The Raiders House, circa 1967.
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You are a realtor? Oh yeah, not a Broker. LMFAO. You only notice those things because you are a queer.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Ok ok bro,..I will let it go,…by reading your text from the past few hours in here,..you are clearly in a bad mood,..cheer up bro,..its almost baseball season!
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Bob, you stood me up out here.
All this talk by you of meet me here, come down here and get some drinks, come to the tailgate…and than nothing for you boy Vegas Raider.
I had winners this weekend. Your loss
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Dang MR,..cant you do better then copy my line?…thought you were clever,..guess not.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Norco Bob, what’s it to you what kind of mood I’m in?
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:50 pm
I just got back this morning dude,..we spent almost no time at the Rio…sorry,..maybe if we had each others cells,…but I cant give mine out here.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:51 pm
You’re right, Norco Bob. You coined the phrase, “what’s your struggle?”. I should have wikied it.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Nevermind MR,..all good.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:51 pm
By the way I donated to Jerry Browns cause today,…God I love old Moonbeam.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Yeah, I wanted Alex Mack, I wonder what he did this year.
Then, if Davis insisted on drafting a WR, I wanted Crabtree.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:52 pm
I think Curry should win over Evans by the way.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Not that I would expect you to come to Vegas to hang out with some guy from a blog, but still, I was offering drinks, and got snake eyes.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:53 pm
Lol,..no prob dude,…we had plenty to drink.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:53 pm
You wanted crabs you old goat? Doesn’t your man wife give them to you from the neighbor boy?
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:54 pm
You don’t know who is at the top of the old mans list.Saying its Mays or Campbell is ludicrous.We have 3 safeties that have been drafted in the last few years.Campbell isn’t a top 4 tackle and it is a total myth that the old man drafts on speed alone.Granted he wants speed-it can’t be taught-but to think that is his only criteria is wrong-something perpetuated by some in the media and swallowed by many.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:56 pm
The Raiders should try and get top pick,..for Suh. Word….trade 8th pick, and whatever else they demand.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:57 pm
Alright
The Beeych & Boob show. I won’t tie up the blog with their childish shyt tonite.
Btw Vegas, I’m sure you knew that Doofus Boob in Vegas bs was all nonsense/out.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:57 pm
Yo yo yo, what up Michael Kelly, what it do my home boy. yeah yeah yeah, can I get a w00t for my boy Michael Kelly, the solid Broker that is Michael Kelly. yeahhhh boyyyeeeeeeee
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Dont let the door hit ya in yo big fat aasss boy.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:58 pm
I guess Seymour Bush is done. I’ll give you guys a quick replay. Seymour asked me what great players of hall of famers Gruden drafted in Tampa. I said none, but that Gruden did get some decent players to at least win a couple of division titles after Dungy’s team was “dismantled” (his words). Seymour responded by saying that the ‘07 Bucs were in fact Dungy’s team. Did a quick google, only to find that only two starters on the ‘07 Bucs were from the Dungy era, Derrick Brooks and Ronde Barber. Seymour then lied and said that Kelly and Alstott were starters in ‘07, too, which they were not. I haven’t seen ol Seymour Bush since. I hope he’s ok. I don’t blame him for being embarrassed.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:59 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:56 pm
The Raiders should try and get top pick,..for Suh. Word….trade 8th pick, and whatever else they demand.
——————————————————– Now this is just a moronic and ill-informed post. Raiders can’t afford another high paid defensive player. Too much money tied up in the defense. We need a productive O-Line FIRST.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Cant afford another top pick?…says who you?…lol
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Warriors comin up short again. damn.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Morrow you tool,..let Curry take last shot!!!!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:02 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Cant afford another top pick?…says who you?…lol
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Not what I said Bobby. They can afford another high paid DEFENSIVE player. Speak a el english? O-LINE FIRST!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Morrow had a great look for the lead
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Kool Kell seems alright, to me. And if he ever faces any harassment or physical assault and has reason to believe it was due to his information being posted on this blog, I for one will be more than happy to come forward as a witness and testify as to some of the unusual and borderline threatening harassment he’s received in here.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:03 pm
D@mmit, they CANT afford… shyte..
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:03 pm
As a matter of fact, I’m reporting Einstein’s comment to the mods here, just for the heck of it. It seems like a threat to me. I’ll let them decide.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:03 pm
Come on Warriors. do this.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:04 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Kool Kell seems alright, to me. And if he ever faces any harassment or physical assault and has reason to believe it was due to his information being posted on this blog, I for one will be more than happy to come forward as a witness and testify as to some of the unusual and borderline threatening harassment he’s received in here.
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LMFAO. NOW that was some funny shyt man. LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO………
Funny, he is the only tool that makes his public information available on a blog, then acts a fool. Why don’t you post your public and personal informatino MaddenGayder?
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Lol,..you are such a good boy MR,..may I applaud you?…lol
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Yay, mods! They’re already cleaning up the scum.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:05 pm
That play sums up the Warriors.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:05 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:03 pm
As a matter of fact, I’m reporting Einstein’s comment to the mods here, just for the heck of it. It seems like a threat to me. I’ll let them decide.
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Please do sweetie. And, be sure and tell them that I received his information from the web page he posted on this blog. You are such a tool.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:05 pm
I wonder if anyone ever got the gonoads to actually call KoolKell and harass him.
I almost wanted to call him to BS, just for the heck of it, but I figured I would respect his privacy.
I can’t imagine others would grant the same respect.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Einstein, you’re already having comments deleted. There’s no place in here for your conduct, and it looks like the mods have caught on. No point in reading your drivel, it will be gone in a couple of reloads anyway. You’re a voice that will never be heard. A clown, with no audience.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:07 pm
I notice how you like to take what someone says and twist it just a bit or only use a few of their words to fit your claims.
With regards to what Cable said about Seymour was that if you watch the tape they ran very little to his side when he was in the game.
With regards to Cable and if he was coming back, Cable said he use to laugh at you people. Cable said that all the fuss about his coming or going was started by you people.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:08 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Einstein, you’re already having comments deleted. There’s no place in here for your conduct, and it looks like the mods have caught on. No point in reading your drivel, it will be gone in a couple of reloads anyway. You’re a voice that will never be heard. A clown, with no audience.
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Lol, whatever man. You are the clown. Not ONE single person on this blog respects you, or your comments. Dream on tool boy.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Einstein, considering the content of your comments, I think any of the mods can reasonably assume you’re posting Kool Kell’s info to incite action from people who might take exception to his views in here. Since the mods already axed it, it’s obvious they do see it that way. you’re being watched.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:08 pm
I don’t care if any of you respect me.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:09 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:08 pm
I don’t care if any of you respect me.
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Of course you don’t, because nobody does. Tool. Tool on this blog, and a tool in life.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:10 pm
The fuss of Cable coming or going may have been a media creation, but all the Raiders had to do was put out a two line press release saying something like, “Tom Cable is our coach for 2010, and we look forward to him adding to the greatness of the Raiders”.
Instead, everyone twisted in the wind.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Vegas
Trolls are all talk. Like Doofus Boobs trip to Vegas, in a RV no less. lol.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:10 pm
this blog has some straight wackos
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:11 pm
I hope Kell contacts the authorities if anyone does call him for the sake of intimidating him. Any phone call to him that isn’t an outright friendly call is an attempt to harass, which is illegal. I hope he files a complaint, gets some much needed criminal charges leveled at some of those in here who need to have their little protective cyber bubble busted.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Old fool kell posted them first, einstein just is reminding us of what old fool kell wanted us to know,..sounds ok to me.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:11 pm
maybe old fool kell will call the naacp. lmao
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Einstein, I don’t care what you think of me, either in here, or what you think I’m like in real life. doesn’t matter.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:12 pm
or jesse,..or sharpton…they havent had anything to cry about lately,..they may be interested. lol
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Norco, I think the mods, and perhaps law enforcement, can decide for themselves based upon much of the content in here what the motivation was behind Einstein posting Kell’s personal info. It’ll be up to them.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Now this is some commical shyte in here. MaddenGayder at the defense of Krappy. I always knew you were the same person.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:13 pm
MR,..you ok bro?…youve been in here for hours,..might want to go take a walk or something old buddy.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Jessie and Al have nothing to do with this. And neither does race, as far as I know. Are you guys harassing Kell based upon race? Because then it’s definitely federal territory. Ouch. Hope you guys can afford lawyers.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Did Norco and Vegas have a beer?
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:13 pm
MR,
I don’t care if any of you respect me.
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Of course you don’t, because nobody does.
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Oakglenn does that a lot. Presumes to speak for the whole blog.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:13 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Norco, I think the mods, and perhaps law enforcement, can decide for themselves based upon much of the content in here what the motivation was behind Einstein posting Kell’s personal info. It’ll be up to them.
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OMG man, you truly are crazy…………..
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:14 pm
What concern is it of yours how long I’ve been in here? And please don’t call me “buddy”. It’s sarcastic, insulting, and annoying most of all.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:14 pm
MR,..old kell posted them first,..so its fair for einstein the tool to post them as many times as he wants,..but if calling the cops is your thing go ahead. lol
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:14 pm
Hello again old kell the troll…we knew you didnt leave. lol
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:15 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 4:48 pm
I guess a left-wing terroist, who killed two people, wasn’t newsworthy.
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Vegas,
Don’t remember the story you’re talking about. But it doesn’t sound like this guy was a terrorist at all. Just a crazy/stupid azzhole.
I don’t buy the liberal media bias theory. That’s just something promoted by the Right Wing talking heads so they can discredit the real media and make up their own facts and not get worried about getting called out for making stuff up because their listeners are convinced the mainstream media is the one lying.
I don’t remember the story you’re talking about. Probably because, sadly, it’s not all that unusual. Crazed gunmen go on these rampages many, many times a year for one reason or another in this country. However, an American citizen flying a plane loaded with explosives into an IRS building — less than 10 years after Muslim terrorists carried out the worst attack on American soil using the same exact method — is a story that is going to grab the media and public interest. If it was some PETA or environmental fanatic it would garner at least as much and probably even more media attention.
The true media bias: sensationalism. If you want to complain about the mainstream media complain about the fact that they’re only interested in showing you fires, shootings, scandalous allegations, celebrity gossip and other content that mostly serves you know purpose other than the fact that sensationalism = entertainment and most people prefer entertainment to real knowledge.
Trust me. I worked in a newsroom for 9 years.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Maybe I am crazy, Einstein. But a crazy guy has access to the mods at this website, and the FBI’s contact page, as I think judging by Norco Bob’s comments, your guys’ harassment of Kell is based on racism.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Hey you moron MaddenGayder, have you heard of the “FIRST AMENDMENT” probably not, because you are an uneducated moron. Read it, then re-read your “alleged” allegations based on what your moronic mind “thinks” is law, and what you “think” could warrant prosecution. Idiot. Try not to comment on things you obviously know NOTHING about. I am now finished even commenting on your idiocy.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Ghost,
I got stood-up, lol
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:16 pm
MR,..you must be the white guy that always makes sure everyone knows you are standing up for minorities,..theres one in every crowd,…how nice of you to be him!
(by the way, they dont want you doing that)
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Bob, the authorities will decide. It’s not up to me or you. I’m just giving them the info. I’m tired of seeing it. The constant harassment, the racism, and yes, the subtle threats. It’s old. Something needs to be done. I think it would be good for you and Einstein to finally have that little bubble of anonymity cracked that you’ve been insulting people behind for so long.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:17 pm
Awww Man…
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:17 pm
MR,..you might want to have a cold beer…relax,…and maybe close that laptop for a while. lol
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:17 pm
Einstein, ever heard of the patriot act? First amendment doesn’t mean squat anymore. Where have you been the past decade?
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:18 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:16 pm
MR,..you must be the white guy that always makes sure everyone knows you are standing up for minorities,..theres one in every crowd,…how nice of you to be him!
(by the way, they dont want you doing that)
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LOL.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Tired of seeing it?…hmmm,..and yet you are here every day,..ok, I guess.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Here’s your chance to meet and greet the one and only RaiderDogg as well as many other Raider Blog All Time Greats!! Here’s the info:
Be sure and check out East Bay Sick next Saturday in Alameda, CA. KoolKell’s hood.
These guys are always a killer show and of course nothing but ladies as far as the eye can see.
EASTBAYSICK LIVE AT ROOSTERS ROADHOUSE. RAP IS A JOKE!
Location:1700 CLEMENT AVE ALAMEDA CA 94501
Time:10:00PM Saturday, March 6th
eastbaysick.com
rapisajoke.com
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Considering the Southern Poverty Law Center’s report, there’s going to be extra pressure by federal law enforcement to crack down on cyber hate. I just gave them some good leads.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:19 pm
The “Patriot Act” omg man, now I am really done with you. You are a complete idiot.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Norco, that’s because I like Jerry’s reporting, and most of the commenters. I’m not here every day to see your and your racist threats. Hopefully soon it will be gone. I just made some moves that will hopefully expedite that process.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Come on MR make the trip from Sac, you won’t be disappointed…
Norco Bob you should come too
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Oh, you’re done alright, Einstein.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Chris,
I can agree with that. Pretty well though out, so I can respect that.
The Vegas story was different in that, everything was a perfect setup for a right-wing radical shooting story. Than it fell like a house of cards, as it turned out it wasn’t the case.
Maybe I looked at it as biased, when in fact, it just didn’t make as good of a story as the media wanted.
You kind of had to see it happen to understand it more I guess. They didn’t release any pics of the guy for a day, so when it was a 60 year old black guy, everyone was shocked. Not at all what you thought, and what the media implied.
Maybe I am looking into it too much. Wouldn’t be the first-time.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Dogg,..I grew up in the bay area,…now only return for ball games,..so no thanks,..it is an open sewer that I dont miss,..but thanks!
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:21 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Here’s your chance to meet and greet the one and only RaiderDogg as well as many other Raider Blog All Time Greats!! Here’s the info:
Be sure and check out East Bay Sick next Saturday in Alameda, CA. KoolKell’s hood.
These guys are always a killer show and of course nothing but ladies as far as the eye can see.
EASTBAYSICK LIVE AT ROOSTERS ROADHOUSE. RAP IS A JOKE!
Location:1700 CLEMENT AVE ALAMEDA CA 94501
Time:10:00PM Saturday, March 6th
eastbaysick.com
rapisajoke.com
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You sir have been reported to local law enforcement for violating this blog protocol. You are busted man, cops on their way to get you now!!!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:22 pm
MR,..ok,..enough,..you look like an idiot,…nobody here is afraid of you callin the cops,…quit being such a crybaby.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Bob
To each his own, you’re the one who will be missing out. Where’s Bri3n these days? He knows ALL about Rap Is A Joke/East Bay Sick. Give him the heads up will you?
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:22 pm
MR did have a funny line though, saying he comes here because he enjoys Jerrys reporting,..that was actually funny! lol
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:24 pm
I talk to him a couple times a week,..the poor guy got himself a fulltime job and doesnt have time for this anymore,..hes doing great though.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Norco, I don’t care if you’re afraid or not, just letting you know I’m doing it. Combining the constant racist drivel, several subtle threats, particularly by Einstein, and then Einstein posting pretty much all of Kell’s personal info., I think contacting the authorities is the right thing to do. I’m not trying to scare anyone. Just trying to inform them. As far as responding law enforcement, can’t promise they won’t try to scare you. But that’s between you and them.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Einstein
They are already here, the fat one is already rolling a blunt and the other one is helping me count some money. I support my local police
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:24 pm
MIKE MLB MICAH JOHNSON needs to be on the Raiders football team and he should be there to be had with one of those two 3rd Round picks. Johnson would be a great addition to the LB corp. He is consistently excellent against the run and it shows on this highlight video of him below.
Take a look at these you tube highlights of his play….ESPECIALLY versus the RUN! He does things that Kirk Morrison and Thomas Howard are supposed to be doing versus the run!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc7RoALOZfM
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:25 pm
kings (+9)/warriors (+10) covered. wow.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Bob
Do me a favor and relay the show info to him, seriously. I would really appreciate it. He has seen them before and knows what they are all about. He should know…
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:26 pm
Well MR Im glad you arent trying to scare anyone,..because you havent. I guess you wanted to be the room biitch tonight, in that you succeeded. Bummer.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:26 pm
Dogg,
You see post #249 and the link?
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:26 pm
WHen is it?..I will text him now…whats the message you have?
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:27 pm
I definitely think we have better uses for the No. 8 pick than Taylor Mays … but for what it’s worth, it wouldn’t be as bad of a pick as DHB was.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Im not into rap, but we put some on at our tailgates for brian.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:34 pm
RMR,
How can you state that Al Davis doesn’t care about winning, only doing things his way? That is a ridiculous statement. He hired Gruden in the first place didn’t he? He let Jon bring his west coast offense to Oakland. An offense Al despises. But he saw Gruden as a bright young coach, consumed by a passion for professional football, much like he was at the same age. I think he believed he’d found another young prodigy in Lane Kiffin. However Kiffin turned out to be just an opportunist.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Hows this for talent..I got this silly blog goin,..and at same time I have 5 different chats on facebook going, and 3 yahoo chats going,…and updating twitter about every minute. Impressed?
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Thanks MR for the support.
My website automatically grabs their IP adresses.
My cell get’s their number…….
These posts have been saved…….
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:37 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:21 am
“Flaws and all I still love her.
America has done nothing to ever disappoint me.”
And aside from horrible abuses and repression of its own citizens and those of the third world, gentrification, assimilation, globalization, civil injustice and the gradual removal of consitiutional rights, me neither.
^^^^^^^^
LOL…..and that is just the tip of the iceberg. There is also generations worth of political corruption and how the country is basically ran by the the government within the government and also by evil lobbyists and of course special interest groups and the big corporations that were bailed out.
Sheesh…
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Norco Bob Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Hows this for talent..I got this silly blog goin,..and at same time I have 5 different chats on facebook going, and 3 yahoo chats going,…and updating twitter about every minute. Impressed?
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Yes, how amazingly utterly lacking your personal life is.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:40 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Dogg,
I checked out the link, I love live rap with actual drums. Hope they make a killing.
While we are on it, here’s a link to this group Dubbsack Music that I was involved with many moons ago. BTW, the fat guy white with the tats, that’s my Jamarcus “source” lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwBL7-OZEcI
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Vegas
I can dig that Dubbsack, representing Tracy and sh1t. Are those cats still doing things in the Bay?
Yes the drummer for EBS is tight as hell and their keyboard player is very talented. Plus the 2 mc’s L$ and Frank Stacks work really well together. I am hoping for big things. They have already worked with some folks like Mistah F.A.B., Keek Da Sneak, Killa Tay, AP9, Tony Madness and many more. They seem like they are about to blow up.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Bob
tell Bri3n it’s EASTBAYSICK LIVE AT ROOSTERS ROADHOUSE. RAP IS A JOKE!
Location:1700 CLEMENT AVE ALAMEDA CA 94501
Time:10:00PM Saturday, March 6th
eastbaysick.com
rapisajoke.com
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:44 pm
I don’t know who would be more miserable if the young Raiders turned things and started to win again, you or Tom Jackson? You, because it would fly in the face of your “Raiders will never win as long as Al is alive” rants. Or Tom Jackson, whose only role at ESPN seems to be to poke the Raiders with a stick.
Would you be happy if the Raiders won again MaddenRaider?
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:45 pm
Howdy Bob! For the duration of this past weekend through at least tonight, I’ve switched back to Norcos… keep the sinuses guessing, says I. Have you tried them the correct way yet?
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:47 pm
Dogg,
I hope they do blow up.
That’s the frustrating thing with the hip-hop “game”. Cats like East Bay Sick and Dubbsack are super talented and have been working on their craft for years, for no pay.
Than you have guys making millions of dollars as teenagers with no talent, and no work effort.
Frustrating as hell, and that’s why I stepped away from it all. I was on the promotions/business/investing side of things with Dubbsack from 99-03. Put out two albums, had Black C from RBL on one of them, and opened for Angelina at the San Joaquin County Fair.
What did it get us? Nothing. They are still trying to do it, and Dubbsack signed with a distributor group and strangely have a following in Eastern Europe of all places (they have been on TV out there and that video is only played on one station, and it is in like Brussels or some crazy place like that).
Keep me posted on EastBay Sick. If you want I can get you in contact with the Dubbsack guys. The fat white guy with the Dubbsack tats was in my wedding party and I still talk to him weekly.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:51 pm
Steve, new thread if you haven’t gotten this figured out yet.
Just trying to help
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:19 pm
OK…What do you guys think about Drafting the Center from Florida in 2nd rd. if he falls?
Do you think drafting another rookie WR in the 1st rd. is good for this offense?
March 3rd, 2010 at 12:58 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Hows this for talent..I got this silly blog goin,..and at same time I have 5 different chats on facebook going, and 3 yahoo chats going,…and updating twitter about every minute. Impressed?
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