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Position group analysis: Linebackers

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, March 2nd, 2010 at 7:36 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Seventh in a series analyzing Raiders position groups as the combine ends and free agency begins Thursday at 9 p.m.

Starters: WLB Trevor Scott, MLB Kirk Morrison, SLB Thomas Howard. Backups: Jon Alston, Ricky Brown, Isaiah Ekejiuba, David Nixon, Slade Norris, Sam Williams.

Review: Morrison led the Raiders in tackles for the fifth straight season with 133 and Howard was third with 79. But the bottom line is the Raiders ranked 29th in run defense, an area which they’ve been deficient since 2003. Alston failed to complete the season because of concussion issues, while Brown and Ekejiuba, the latter exclusively a special teams player, also battled injuries.

Scott made a successful switch from end to weak side linebacker, learning on the fly, prompting the shift of Howard to the strong side, where he lacks size and strength. Norris, a fourth-round draft pick, failed to make the 53-man roster out of training camp and was promoted after Nixon, who was an undrafted free agent. Neither player made much of an impression. Even if Williams is not back initially, he usually makes his way back on to the roster as a special teamer. He’s this decade’s version of Dan Land.

Contract status: Morrison, Howard, Brown and Alston are all restricted free agents awaiting tenders. Ekejiuba is in the second year of a three-year contract and is scheduled to make more than $1.8 million in salary.

What’s next: Probably the most interesting area on the team in terms of free agency. Do the Raiders tender Morrison and Howard at second- or first-round levels, thereby guaranteeing their return? Or will they decide they’re simply not stout enough against the run and look to discard one or the other and get more physical up front.

Could the Raiders move Morrison aside and take Alabama linebacker Rolando McClain at No. 8 overall? History says no. Other than Napoleon Harris (No. 23 overall in 2002) and Rob Fredrickson (No. 22 overall in 1994) the Raiders don’t take linebackers in the first round, let alone at No. 8. They simply don’t believe in paying huge money to a player who may end up being a part-time player, coming off the field in nickel and dime defenses.

Scott’s conversion to linebacker was extremely encouraging.

Scott finished with seven sacks, can still put his hand down in passing situations, and is a far more dangerous blitzer at linebacker than anyone else on the roster. Ekejiuba got the richest contract awarded to a pure special teamer (who doesn’t kick or return kicks) and now the Raiders must determine in Year 2 if he was worth it, considering his troublesome shoulder.

Norris, taken two picks after Louis Murphy at No. 126 overall, will need to to make a big jump this year to even begin justifying the fourth-round pick spent on him last year out of Oregon State.

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312 Responses to “Position group analysis: Linebackers”

  1. Norco Bob Says:

    Numero Uno.

  2. vegas raider Says:

    Our LB’s suck.

    We bring in former and current Pro Bowlers on the D-line, and the LB’s stay the same.

    And so does the production.

    Yes we need to some help at DT, but would any of our 3 LB’s start for any good D in the league?

  3. KoolKell Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    March 2nd, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    Hows this for talent..I got this silly blog goin,..and at same time I have 5 different chats on facebook going, and 3 yahoo chats going,…and updating twitter about every minute. Impressed?
    —————————–
    Yes, how amazingly utterly lacking your personal life is.

  4. Norco Bob Says:

    No

  5. Norco Bob Says:

    Lol,.old man, I saw that on the prior blog,..lol,..were ya stressin it wouldnt have been read?…silly old man. lol

  6. RaiderDogg Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    March 2nd, 2010 at 2:04 pm
    Dogg,

    I checked out the link, I love live rap with actual drums. Hope they make a killing.

    While we are on it, here’s a link to this group Dubbsack Music that I was involved with many moons ago. BTW, the fat guy white with the tats, that’s my Jamarcus “source” lol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwBL7-OZEcI
    ========================================
    Vegas

    I can dig that Dubbsack, representing Tracy and sh1t. Are those cats still doing things in the Bay?

    Yes the drummer for EBS is tight as hell and their keyboard player is very talented. Plus the 2 mc’s L$ and Frank Stacks work really well together. I am hoping for big things. They have already worked with some folks like Mistah F.A.B., Keek Da Sneak, Killa Tay, AP9, Tony Madness and many more. They seem like they are about to blow up.

  7. Norco Bob Says:

    By the way old man, that post was ment for MR to insult me,..hes not doin well tonight and thought I would feed him a fastball to hit out the park,..but its cool that you got to use it,..didnt know you were here,..you told us you were leaving…wtf? lol

  8. Norco Bob Says:

    Dogg,..what you want me to text brian?

  9. Norco Bob Says:

    Lol though old kell,..you believed it!!!…as if I know that many people that would instant chat with me?…how sweet of you to think that. :)

  10. vegas raider Says:

    Dogg,

    Go to the last thread

  11. vegas raider Says:

    MR,

    If your interested, the link in #6 was the group I was talking about when I was the “Tommy Motola of Tracy”.

    BTW, I use that line a lot when taking to those guys. You should have patented it.

  12. Kirk Says:

    We have linebackers?

    Who knew?

  13. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Vegas,

    Putting a rookie MLB behind Warren and Kelly is asking for yet another Bust.

    Inside-out is how to build a team. My guess is that Morrison and Howard would find their way onto another roster….its 50/50 whether Warren would still be in the league if he left the Raiders.

  14. Chris in NY Says:

    I think Norris and Nixon could surprise and develop into contributors. Raiders should slap 2nd round tenders on Howard and Morrison and let them walk if somebody is willing to give up a 2nd round pick.

    McClain would be a disaster of a pick at No. 8. I think that guy is highly overrated and really I don’t love any of the MLBs in this draft right now.

  15. Norco Bob Says:

    Kirk and Howard both suck, but Im confident both will be in starting lineup come 1st game of season. Word. I actually like them both, personally, they are cool dudes, come toour section during pregame drills and shake hands, high-five,…but, they get pushed around during games, we need a couple bad mo-fo`s back there, preferrably a couple felons. Hey now.

  16. vegas raider Says:

    Warren has started everywhere he went. I don’t think he is any good, but that fact remains.

    Maybe a rookie at MLB isn’t the best way to go, but what about a rookie MLB starting on the outside his first year, with Ricky Brown or another cheap vet in the middle, and than groom that rookie to be MLB of the future.

    We aren’t winning the Super Bowl next year, so we can be patient with the youth. Lord knows we have been on the other side of the ball.

  17. Norco Bob Says:

    Hey Vegas you can say we arent winning it, but I wont say that, until we out of it,..we gonna shock the world man,…my new row 1 insights have told me Russell will make probowl, lead us to the playoffs,…word.

  18. vegas raider Says:

    I’m shooting for the AFC west title.

    That’s as lofty as I will get.

    And don’t get me started on that dope Russell.

  19. Norco Bob Says:

    Well check back late in year,..Im tellin ya man, you will see.

  20. Chris in NY Says:

    Ricky Brown is garbage. A special teams player at best. As lost as Kirk is at times on the inside he’s still much better than Brown.

    I don’t know if Kirk gets pushed around as much as he just gets lost. Seems to creep up into the center of the line of scrimmage with no sense of where the RB is. By the time the back emerges off tackle Kirk is a good 3+ yards away and in no position to make the play.

    Howard looks the part and is a tremendous athlete. He looked real good his first couple of seasons. But — despite being big and strong in addition to explosive — he doesn’t play physical enough and doesn’t do a good job of shedding blocks.

  21. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Bob, have you snorted yet?

    I’m aiming for 9-7 next season with Bruce/JP/Frye/someone new or a DEDICATED Russell at QB. Nothing else will get us past .500. LOFTY GOALS!

  22. RaiderDogg Says:

    Vegas

    I feel you regarding the hit and miss in the music industry. It’s a rough game and sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good. But luck favors the prepared and these dudes are ready. They have been playing together for years and their material just keeps getting better. I know that a possible slot on the Vans Warped Tour is in discussion and may be up for grabs, which would be huge exposure for them.

  23. Norco Bob Says:

    No 500 man,..it will be 12-4,…no not crushin yet man, unsure bout that,…poppin is workin.

  24. RaiderDogg Says:

    Bob

    tell Bri3n it’s EASTBAYSICK LIVE AT ROOSTERS ROADHOUSE. RAP IS A JOKE!
    Location:1700 CLEMENT AVE ALAMEDA CA 94501
    Time:10:00PM Saturday, March 6th

    eastbaysick.com
    rapisajoke.com

  25. Norco Bob Says:

    Ozzfest about to be announced,..the Mayhem tour looks good,..KORN,…Rob Zombie co-headling,..I will be there for that gig.

  26. Norco Bob Says:

    Ok dogg,..just sent the text.

  27. Chris in NY Says:

    Just saw a clip from the NFLN where they did that simultaneous running of the 40-yard dash bit. Taylor Mays shows up as faster than Trindon Holliday and only slower than Jacoby Ford.

    That would mean Mays probably ran in the 4.30-4.32 range and not a 4.43 as his “official time” is being listed since Ford ran an official 4.28 and Holliday ran a 4.33.

    That means that Mays is 6-3, 230 pounds, runs a 4.3 forty and has a 41-inch vertical. And that, of course, means there’s a very, very good chance he’ll be a Raider in a couple of months despite the fact that safety is one of the strongest, deepest positions we have while lacking at many other key groups.

  28. RaiderDogg Says:

    Bob

    thanks. Just heard about the Mayhem tour, Lamb of God will kill those other bands. The Slayer/Megadeth/Testament show sounds more appealling to me.

  29. Richochet Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 2nd, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    Bob, the authorities will decide. It’s not up to me or you. I’m just giving them the info. I’m tired of seeing it. The constant harassment, the racism, and yes, the subtle threats. It’s old. Something needs to be done. I think it would be good for you and Einstein to finally have that little bubble of anonymity cracked that you’ve been insulting people behind for so long.
    ================
    LMFAO…YOU’RE AN IDIOT.

    You have NO idea how it works, do you? Seriously…laughing my ass off at your “reporting it to the authorities”…care to bet me..oh…say..100? 1000?? that they’ll laugh at your sorryass?

    Again, don’t perfect the stupid bit…that’s a bet that says your dumbass has no clue on how it works, especially online.
    IF I FIND ANYTHING FROM ANYONE, PREVIOUSLY POSTED, ONLINE, I have full power to repost it..as long as I don’t do it for profit.
    In other words, when YOU post your info, it then becomes public knowledge, and reposting it is allowed…all I want.

    Innuendos? Yes, LMFAO that your dumbass thinks ANY BRANCH won’t laugh you off the phone…I GUARANTEE IT.

    10,000,000 posts are made…PER DAY..give or take a few mil…and you think ANY AGENCY CARES ABOUT INNUENDOS??
    You’re dumber than you look.
    According to YOU, YOU can be arrested of “harassment” with your slew of repetitive, ignorant takes…you can’t. As far as phone calls? I can call you a thousand times…A MILLION TIMES..and what YOU can do, under the law, is get a restraining order requesting I don’t call, AFTER YOU PROVE I HAVE..other than that? Cops will tell you to “kiss off, moron..you’re bothering us”

    And “the patriot act”?? Oh geez…you’re so ignorant.
    You think that applies to a FOOTBALL BLOG??? Do you have any IDEA WHAT THE PATRIOT ACT COVERS?
    Let’s forget the fact that many actions have already been challenged.
    Patriot Act is designed to INTERCEPT AND OBSTRUCT TERRORISM, you idiot.

    What? Making jokes and innuendos on one of MILLIONS of blogs is considered a “terrorist act’??

    Dude..do us all a favor…when you call? Get it on video, and post it on Youtube..you’ll be laughed off quicker than TJ is on the Raider postgame show…GUARANTEED…

    Oh..PERIOD. :) ..

  30. Norco Bob Says:

    We could do worse then taylor mays.

  31. Norco Bob Says:

    Ya dogg i have tix forthat cow palace show with megadeth/slayer, but it got postponed til august 31st,…Iv seen lamg of god,..didnt like em…horrible vocals.

  32. Norco Bob Says:

    Rich,..tonight wasnt one of MR`s better days,…lol…maybe he can do better next time. (tomorrow) lol

  33. RaiderDogg Says:

    Bob

    Yeah the vocals are little too Cookie Monster-ish for me, but musically they are sick. Plus if you know the words the vocals become more tolerable. Wrath is a killer album.

    Check out Throwdown if you haven’t already. Venom and Tears and Deathless are their 2 better albums…

  34. Norco Bob Says:

    Little too death metal for me,..Im into classic metal,..sabbath,..motorhead…megadeth..slayer,…pantera…etc.

  35. Richochet Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    March 2nd, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    Lol though old kell,..you believed it!!!…as if I know that many people that would instant chat with me?…how sweet of you to think that. :)
    =================
    Lol…was rather obvious it was yet another setup ;)

    the “you impressed” gave it away.

  36. Norco Bob Says:

    I saw lamb of god at a gigantour about 3 years ago at oracle,…dude was just screaming into mic,…unsure if he actually sang words.

  37. Richochet Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    March 2nd, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    Lol though old kell,..you believed it!!!…as if I know that many people that would instant chat with me?…how sweet of you to think that. :)
    ====================
    Dude went whack.
    That said, Einstein’s idiot takes are just begging to get him banned.
    for that matter, Kell, you’re pushing the envelope yourself…IMO..on some of your retorts.

    Much less has gotten much more a vacation

  38. Norco Bob Says:

    Ya rich,..well old kell has never been the brightest blogger in here,..the oldest ya, brightest?…lol…no.

  39. Richochet Says:

    If I NEVER heard another rap song..as in EVER…it would still be too soon.

    Listening to my son’s rap is akin to getting a root canal…a bad root canal…while eating ice cream…old ice cream.

  40. Richochet Says:

    Yeah, Bobbo, he lets you guys get his goat (have NO idea what that means, lol) and some of his replies are borderline over the top…like “banned” over the top.

    Einstein? he’s a train wreck, and just not bright enough to see it. Obvious he’s a kid. He waits for others to speak, then jumps on their take, and adopts it…then claps his hands in glee as he chants ‘I made a funny. Mom will be so proud.”

    I disagree…she won’t.

  41. Richochet Says:

    So Bree the Flea got a job, huh?

    Thought he was out researching “The 49ers and the Mafia..Fact or Fiction?”

  42. Richard Bentley Says:

    The only time Al ever picked a linebacker first (his first pick in the first round, not first round) in the draft was when he took Fredrickson, and it wasn’t a high pick. I never think Al will draft a linebacker high. But there is the slightest of chances, considering how many times the Raiders have been burned over the last several years, that Al may bite the bullet and draft McClain. The odds are long, but this guy is pretty much can’t-miss, and if this solves the long gainers by a running back, maybe it is turning over in the back of his mind. Plus Cable never said linebacker was a position they were looking at to draft high – maybe a smokescreen?

  43. Norco Bob Says:

    MR is real manic, either real upbeat, or real down,..never in between,..today was a real down night for the guy,..Im sure his other side will be here the next visit.

  44. RaiderDogg Says:

    Bob

    Throwdown sounds a lot like Pantera

  45. Norco Bob Says:

    Ya brian is busy nowadays…he likely back in here more often closer to draft time.

  46. Norco Bob Says:

    Hmmm,.I will check them out…I saw Damage Plan about a month before Dimebag got gunned down,..great band,..what a shame.

  47. Norco Bob Says:

    That dude got pretty pissed that Pantera broke up! he shot wrong guy, that was all on Anselmo.

  48. Chris in NY Says:

    Richard Bentley,
    I’d argue that McClain is no can’t-miss prospect. I actually think he’s bound to be a bust. I’m not sure who hates him so much to put this together, but watch this film of #25 and tell me what you see:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhG6bwopKTc

  49. Richochet Says:

    Seems TJ was tipsy this morning, and MR was chasing parked cars tonight.

    Must be a full moon

  50. RaiderDogg Says:

    Bob

    I agree with you about the wrong guy. I never saw Damageplan but I was fortunate enough to see Pantera many times.

    Dimebag RIP

  51. Norco Bob Says:

    Last time I saw Anselmo, he was being interviewed by that dude Eddie Trunk,..and Anselmo nodded off mid sentence…bizarre…end of interview.

  52. KoolKell Says:

    Brian’s in Jail, probably.

  53. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Bob,

    Not to be overly pedantic, but “manic” just means really up; it doesn’t combine the up and the down… hence the term for both being “manic/depressive.”

    The more you know. *shooting star tailed by a rainbow flies across screen*

  54. vegas raider Says:

    That isn’t a very good flick for McClain.

    But did you see Arenas on the sack at the 1 minute mark? What a play!!!

  55. Chris in NY Says:

    Didn’t Anselmo die once or twice from heroine ODs and have to be brought back to life?

    Also, anyone ever see those Pantera home videos from them on tour back in the early 90s? Back before everyone and their mother had a reality TV show. Those things were hilarious. Me and my boys used to throw those movies on when we were hanging out late night in high school. Those dudes used to party pretty crazy on tour. Go figure.

  56. RaiderDogg Says:

    Anselmo was a sick junkie, he is supposedly clean now. You know about Down and SuperJoint Ritual right?

  57. RaiderDogg Says:

    Chris in NY

    You are correct about Anselmo. As far as their infamous drinking and partying all I can say are 3 little words: Black Tooth Grin.

  58. Chris in NY Says:

    McClain kind of reminds me of this guy I played against in high school. Guy was a pretty good sized MLB with decent speed and athletic ability. Put up a ton of tackles in the stat sheet. Was all-County 2 or 3 years running because of it. Then, when I went up against him 1-on-1 for an entire game it was one of the easiest guys I ever had to block. Really wasn’t very physical or anything just seemed to flow in the general direction of the ball carrier just enough to be in the right place at the right time to get a hand on the ball carrier as he was already going down or about to go down and pad his stat sheet. Was really more of a product of the position he played and having a pretty good team around him more than anything. I think the same could be said of McClain.

  59. Norco Bob Says:

    Down yes,..and no old man, hes not in jail,..hes working, and getting ready to return to school….maybe if he studies real hard when hes old like you he can be a huge real estate magnate. :)

  60. Norco Bob Says:

    black tooth grin,..wasnt that off a Megadeth song?

  61. NorthernD Says:

    Chris in NY Says:
    March 2nd, 2010 at 9:08 pm
    McClain kind of reminds me of this guy I played against in high school. Guy was a pretty good sized MLB with decent speed and athletic ability. Put up a ton of tackles in the stat sheet. Was all-County 2 or 3 years running because of it. Then, when I went up against him 1-on-1 for an entire game it was one of the easiest guys I ever had to block. Really wasn’t very physical or anything just seemed to flow in the general direction of the ball carrier just enough to be in the right place at the right time to get a hand on the ball carrier as he was already going down or about to go down and pad his stat sheet. Was really more of a product of the position he played and having a pretty good team around him more than anything. I think the same could be said of McClain.
    ======================================
    McLain may be over rated, especially with Cody eating up blockers in front of him. Being on the #1 defence in college means you’re also surrounded by talent.
    You just have to find the one player that made everyone else on that defence better. I still think that would be McLain. His size toughness and work ethic set him apart.

    Say, if you had no problem blocking an all-state LB in high school, then maybe you could suit back up and give the Raiders a try. They’re a little weak at the guard spot. Tryouts are at 4:00 next thursday.

  62. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Kirk Says:
    March 2nd, 2010 at 7:57 pm
    We have linebackers?

    Who knew?

    ===========================

    Thgis would be funny if I wasn’t sure the Kirk in question isn’t Kirk Morrison…

  63. NorthernD Says:

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    March 2nd, 2010 at 9:31 pm
    Kirk Says:
    March 2nd, 2010 at 7:57 pm
    We have linebackers?

    Who knew?

    ===========================

    Thgis would be funny if I wasn’t sure the Kirk in question isn’t Kirk Morrison…

    =============================
    Yes, they have linebackers.
    You can see them in the picture frame as the opposing RB’s do their touchdown dances.

  64. priesttj Says:

    Chris in NY, I used to think you were pretty sharp football mind. Now I think you’ve allowed your frustrations get to you and question your own convictions. Your starting to sound like the whine and cry crowd rather than a free thinker with an original thought. You’rr more of the mentality of this blog and conforming to excepted reasonings.

    I think you’re better than that but I could be wrong. It’s one thing to be frustrated because who wouldn’t be but you can still be sound of mind rather than spew spew whtat you think might be exceptable to these guy’s unless of course you actually believe it.

  65. SteveAlford21 Says:

    People who got their G.E.D. know the difference between “exceptable” and “acceptable.”

  66. priesttj Says:

    I’m sure everybody knew what I meant especially Chris.

  67. Nnamdi21 Says:

    I think we had coverage LB scuz of the TE’s we used to face all season long (Gates, Gonzales ect.) but we could use a thumper at MLB. Morrison to strong (if we keep him) I like Howard, really do. He’s one of the few who gets fired up and makes plays. Good in coverage too.

    Hope we do something with our MLB draft or FA. SOMETHING!

  68. SteveAlford21 Says:

    I’m willing to bet that every university in the country would have “excepted” TJ.

  69. SteveAlford21 Says:

    And I meant that literally: They would except him.

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  71. priesttj Says:

    nnamdi you’re right those guy’s were killing us before we got the young lber’s and huff. we didn’t draft kirk to be a mlb originally but they shifted him because of his smarts and his ability to handle the playcalls.

  72. priesttj Says:

    Kirk really is a very good ILB he’s just not as well suited for the MLb position. But in a 3/4 system he would be very good IMO.

  73. NorthernD Says:

    Nnamdi21,
    I agree with you about the coverage LBs. We also had pass rushers along the D-line as well. Not a good combination on 1st and 10.
    Last year I think they wanted to change so they drafted Shaughnessy, brought in Ellis and Seymour to be better against the run.
    This year I think they address the run stopping issue at LB. Perhaps bring in some bigger, tougher LBs who won’t get pushed out of the hole.

  74. Richochet Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    March 2nd, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    Chris in NY, I used to think you were pretty sharp football mind. Now I think you’ve allowed your frustrations get to you and question your own convictions. Your starting to sound like the whine and cry crowd rather than a free thinker with an original thought. You’rr more of the mentality of this blog and conforming to excepted reasonings.

    I think you’re better than that but I could be wrong. It’s one thing to be frustrated because who wouldn’t be but you can still be sound of mind rather than spew spew whtat you think might be exceptable to these guy’s unless of course you actually believe it.
    ======================
    There is NO ONE on this board more narrow minded than you, yet you question someone else being a free thinker?

    What you’re really saying is you’re disappointed that Chris doesn’t follow your moronic views..in other words, he’s a FREE THINKER.

    You? lol…you’re this demented absent minded fool, who’s so desperate to feel “in” when in fact you’re a clown, who seemingly is the butt of most jokes..both here, and pretty much anywhere that you call in.

    it’s because you’re so narrow minded is why you IMMEDIATELY get the rolling of eyes, and the obvious disdain in the voices of the radio hosts who know you’re going to do what you do here, which is babble on with some incoherent rant, insisting you’re right, when it’s obvious you’re lost.

  75. Kirk Says:

    We need to convert Cable to a defensive tackle.

    He did a pretty good job on Hansen!

  76. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Mr. O’Shea:

    TJ is the type of person who yells at everyone for being a conformist while he dresses like, acts like, speaks like, thinks like, and in every conceivable way IS like every other self-proclaimed “non-conformist” wannabe douchebag. The hilarious part is that he sticks completely to the company line, believing every word of “it’s all okay, everything is under control, people who question or criticize are outcasts and losers,” then he has the audacity to call others closed-minded. LMFAO!

  77. NorthernD Says:

    SteveAlford21,
    Don’t be jealous because he “knows” people.

  78. SteveAlford21 Says:

    My bad… I forgot that he has the deepest and most intimate connections with the highest levels of each aspect of the league.

    “True Story”

  79. NorthernD Says:

    …period.

  80. Richochet Says:

    Yeah, Steve, TJ’s as predictable as hell.
    He’s a “Al” flunky, who believes he’s actually a better fan if he does exactly what he thinks an owner would want him to do.
    Al picks a player? TJ buys his jersey, and proclaims him the next football GOD.
    TJ “see’s that JR will be a super star”
    TJ “recognizes how DHB will lead the league next year”

    then…lol…for emphasis, states “I talked to all the players..they all say JR is also going to be a stud..and they ALL LOVE HIM. YOU GUYS DON’T KNOW FOOTBALL. I DO, BECAUSE EVERY DAY I TALK TO ALL OF THEM. I’m talking to them now. In my sleep, some of them even call me. Tomorrow? We’re all going to Dunkin Donuts, to swap stories, and share donut holes.”

    Once you hear TJ speak? Honestly?? You’ll put it all in perspective.
    When I state he makes JR sound lucid? That’s not a joke…TJ sounds like an uneducated slurring ghetto blaster, who you have to struggle to just try and understand the words, while he rambles on and on and on.
    The hosts are BOTH snickering and saying ‘yeah, right..ok priest…SUUUURRREE…WE GOT IT..OK…BYE BYE NOW” where they hang up, still giggling over his call.

    Even some of TJ’s previous “backers” laughed their ass off, on this blog, once they heard him.
    He’s…uh…not all there, for lack of a better term.

  81. Richochet Says:

    loll..oh yeah..I forgot…PERIOD!!.

    Thanks for reminding me, Northern

  82. Richochet Says:

    TJ’s so sensitive, lol…I can just hear he rushing out the door, tail between legs “OMG..they’re PICKING ON ME AGAIN…”

  83. NorthernD Says:

    Richochet,
    I’ve never had the pleasure of listening to his smooth golden voice on the radio, but I can imagine what he sounds like.
    Is it like Redd Foxx doing a drunken version of Fred Sanford?
    “That’s what I said, you big dummy. Big dummy. Elizabeth, I’m commin’ for ya.”

  84. SteveAlford21 Says:

    lol

    Well, you totally missed some GOLD in reference to his claims about Howie Long not knowing much and being raw and without any technique at all until we drafted him… and MADE him a Hall of Famer. Apparently, Howie would have been pure crap on any other team and he owes everything he accomplished to the Raiders D Line coach teaching him EVERYTHING he ever knew.

    This is all despite Howie saying in interviews that when he got to the Raiders, there was no emphasis on drills and technique, just get in there and do what you already know how to do and play hard and win games. TJ said his connections informed him all about how Howie didn’t know what to do… so I guess Howie lied on NFL Films’ “America’s Team: 1983 Raiders.”

  85. SteveAlford21 Says:

    “Period.

    True Story”

  86. NorthernD Says:

    Don’t pick on him. RaiderDebo will get mad at you.

  87. SteveAlford21 Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    March 1st, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    The question directly relates to your point. Earl Leggett was his position coach and Earl ha dalready done a lot of film study on Howie and loved him he didn’t need to put him through a battery of test also on his proday other scouts from other teams were present and he diddn’t want to let on about the Raiders interets in Howie so he told him to get in a 3 point stance and explode off it. After that he left and Howie took it as no interest which was exactly what Earl wanted the other scouts to think. But once we drafted him he was extremely raw and Earl taught him everything and made him a HOFer.

    Ture story.

  88. SteveAlford21 Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    March 1st, 2010 at 11:48 pm

    MR, that’s bullcrap when Hoie got here he had zero technigue NONE everything he learned he learned from Earl Leggettt who at that time was the preeminent Dline coach in this league. He taught Howie the 3tech and the 5tech well enough for him to make it to the HOF.

    Don’t be foolish He also taught Greg Townsend, Bill Pickell and many others we went to SB because of Earl Leggett and Charlie Sumner. Don’t be stupid!!

  89. SteveAlford21 Says:

    TJ also mentioned that he worked with NUMEROUS scouts that we have on staff now. He went on to say that if I had any questions, to just ask.

    I asked where, when, and with whom. Suddenly, that became on off-limits question. LMFAO.

  90. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Repost of MY thoughts on Priest’s claims about #75:

    Priest knows for certain that Howie knew NOTHING about how to play football before we drafted him and that he not only didn’t know the rules of the game, but had actually never even SEEN a football… then, our D-Line coach hand-crafted Howie into a Hall of Famer… and Howie would never have even learned how to play the game, much less gotten to the Hall, if he had played for any team other than the Raiders. How does Priest know this? He was there. He was having lunch with Al Davis that day and was explaining exactly how to properly utilize the 4-3 defense. He then gave the entire staff a lecture on player evaluation and teaching technique from basic fundamentals up to advanced moves. He would show you the pictures or tell you about people who were there with him that could verify his claims… or even the year in which it happened… but that’s too much info to give.

    “True Story.”

  91. BadMoodGuy Says:

    BAN ALL THE TROLLS

  92. priesttj Says:

    Don’t feel the need to prove a thing to people I don’t even know. What for or for what? I know what I did and that’s good enough for me. The rest doesn’t matter…………..sorry!

    Earl Leggett was an outstanding Dline coach and Charlie Sumner was an outstanding DC for the Raiders whom I was very partial to. At that time Howie, Greg and Bill were very young talented lineman and Matt Millen was a very young MLB our DT was a 255 lbs named Reggie Kinlaw from Oklahoma and Earl did wonders with all those guy’s. We won a SB vs the Redskins led by vets like the Mad Stork and I forget the DE from Denver Oyeah! Alzado we went to town on the NFL with those coaches.

    Our coaching staff under Flores was top notch a lot of great coaches that don’t get much credit. Tom himself was a great coach a coaches coach.

  93. priesttj Says:

    How could a player know nothing about the game if he’s already playing it? I said he was very raw and he was.

  94. Richochet Says:

    # NorthernD Says:
    March 2nd, 2010 at 11:01 pm

    Richochet,
    I’ve never had the pleasure of listening to his smooth golden voice on the radio, but I can imagine what he sounds like.
    Is it like Redd Foxx doing a drunken version of Fred Sanford?
    “That’s what I said, you big dummy. Big dummy. Elizabeth, I’m commin’ for ya.”
    ======================
    More like “it’s wha I says, yas big dumi. I’s commin for ya, lizbeth”

  95. SteveAlford21 Says:

    “when Hoie got here he had zero technigue NONE”

    Those are your words, capitalization, and spelling up there. That’s a bit more than saying he was just raw.

  96. RaiderDogg Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    March 2nd, 2010 at 9:14 pm
    black tooth grin,..wasnt that off a Megadeth song?
    ================================
    Bob

    A Black Tooth Grin was a drink Dimebag invented and named after a lyric in the song Sweating Bullets by Megadeth.

    Black Tooth Grin:

    2 oz Seagrams 7
    2 oz Crown Royal
    Just a splash of cola

    Dimebag would drink these as shots

  97. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Priest:

    You give up the right to say that you don’t need to prove yourself when you make outrageous claims. That’s how the world works. If I tell you that I went on tour with Biggie, you have the right to ask me when and where… and I am OBLIGATED to answer… otherwise lying wannabe idiots like yourself can just say whatever they want at any time and never be accountable for the crap that they make up.

    To say that you’ve worked with numerous scouts that we now have on staff is a claim that must be substantiated with at least a where and a when and a with whom so that people will know that you’re not full of it… but with you, there is no where, when, or with whom… so you have to pull that “don’t need to prove myself” weak sauce. Lol @ sad, pathetic liar totally and completely busted.

  98. Chris in NY Says:

    priesttj Says:
    March 2nd, 2010 at 10:01 pm
    Chris in NY, I used to think you were pretty sharp football mind. Now I think you’ve allowed your frustrations get to you and question your own convictions. Your starting to sound like the whine and cry crowd rather than a free thinker with an original thought. You’rr more of the mentality of this blog and conforming to excepted reasonings.

    I think you’re better than that but I could be wrong. It’s one thing to be frustrated because who wouldn’t be but you can still be sound of mind rather than spew spew whtat you think might be exceptable to these guy’s unless of course you actually believe it.

    ——————–

    Priestj,

    Hey man. Thanks for the props but not exactly sure what you’re criticizing or what you think I was whining and crying about. Was it because I think there’s a good chance McClain is going to be a bust? Something else? Seriously, I really don’t know.

  99. priesttj Says:

    Technigue is one thing saying he knows NOTHING is something different. He had great talent but it wasn’t harnessed and he had very little to no technigue he did everything with brute strength and great quickness so they harnessed his quickness and gave him some tools to work with. Voila!! 13 years later he has HOF credentials. That’s a damn good job by one Earl Leggett. Even Howie will tell ya’ who had the most enfluence on his career.

    Probably the closest player to compare him to is DHB awesome talent no clue how to use it at this level. Coaching can make his career and will, that job belongs to Hue Jackson.

  100. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Priest,

    Unlike DHB, #75 was capable of using his hands for their intended purpose. Hell, I wouldn’t just restrict it to the duties of the position… I bet Howie had better hands than DHB in every way, especially in terms of catching the ball.

    PERIOD. TRUE STORY.

  101. Chris in NY Says:

    Here’s that clip from the NFL Network of Mays running what looks more like a 4.30 than the original time of 4.24 or the “official time” of 4.43. Even a 4.43 is awesome for a dude Mays’ size. A 4.30 equals what DHB put up. Which is insane considering Mays is 6-3, 230. I’m sure you’ll all remember DHB was picked No. 7 overall based almost solely on his height/weight/speed credentials. Well, Mays is taller, bigger, stronger and just as fast. Not to mention he comes from Al Davis’ favorite college program.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDhYKZHKh4Q

  102. priesttj Says:

    Chris is been a lot of stuff, for the last few months I’ve noticed all you do is whine now. You use to have very insightful post with great angles and viewpoints. Lately it’s just the same thing I read from everone else in here. You’re way more talented than that.

    You know as well as anyone football is a very complicate game with many layers and one thing can effect another. While the whine and cry crowd like i simplistic and easy to understand. You use to incorporate that in your post now it’s the blame Al Davis crap and Russell’s at fault. While that is true to a great extent you know there is much more to this game.

    Come one man step up your game and don’t let these mindless leeches infect you to the point to where you sound just like them.

  103. NorthernD Says:

    Chris in NY,
    I cringed when I read that. The last thing they need is another HWS project. Mays never played to that level in college, and watching him try to cover WRs at the combine wasn’t very inspiring.
    When the Raiders have their first pick, there are two names that will cause me to start swearing at the TV. Those are Mays, or tackle Bruce Campbell.

  104. SteveAlford21 Says:

    NorthernD,

    I wish the list for me was as short as only TWO names…

  105. NorthernD Says:

    Or DE Pierre-Paul. Forgot that one. Another HWS guy.

  106. NorthernD Says:

    In order of preference:
    Bradford-gone
    Suh-gone
    McCoy-gone
    Okung-gone
    OT Trent Williams- should be there
    MLB McLain- should be there
    OT Bulaga- should be there
    QB- Clausen- gone

  107. Seymour Bush Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 2nd, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    Seymour, still here? Please explain to me how Dungy’s old players carried the Bucs to their ‘07 title, when there were only two of them…
    ==================================================

    Well RealMaddenRaider, while you are very good at pointing out racism in America, and you would be the first person I would ask if I needed a gay bar in Sacto, your football knowledge is EXTREMELY LACKING.

    Your Jon Gruden team lost to Detroit, who would be winless the following year. While TB won the NFC South Division in ‘07 with barely a .500 record, there was NOT ONE OTHER winning team in that division. They also dropped 3 of their last 4, including a home playoff beatdown by the NY Giants. But hey, Madonna’s Borderline is a great dance tune right?

  108. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Hey, what timing! I just log on and the very last comment is from none either than the guy I’ve been trying to reach all day.

    Seymour Bush, funny you wait until now to make the argument that Tampa’s division title was due to a weak schedule, after spending an entire day trying to make the argument it was Dungy’s players that won it. do you still believe that dungy’s players were the only reason that team won, or have you finally google the stats from that year to see for yourself that only TWO PLAYERS on that team where from the Dungy era, Ronde Barber and Derrick Brooks? Alstott, who you claimed was a force on that team, didn’t play in ‘07 after a neck injury. Brian Kelly, another stud who you credited for their success that year, played only sparingly. He did not start.

    I’m guessing you have googled that info, because now your reason has entirely changed. Now you’re saying that the reason they won was only because of a weak division. Now, if you’d just made that argument at first, instead of desperately trying to discredit gruden’s team management by falsely asserting that all of gruden’s success can be attributed to Dungy, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

    I shouldn’ respond to your obvious flip flop, but I’ll play along anyway, for the simple fact that it doesn’t diminish gruden’s accomplishments in ‘07, either. The object is to win. HAd Gruden lost that year, say, had he gone 4-12, like the Raiders, you wouldn’t be rubbing that in his face? So isn’t it only fair for a Gruden supporter like me, and I have no problem admitting it because I want the guy to be our coach, rubbing his success in your face? Doesn’t matter how easy his schedule was. First you put the words into my mouth that Gruden acquired hall of fame “greats”. I said I never said such a thing, and only said that Gruden got good enough players to win games. You then refuted that by saying that he did so with DUNGY’S TEAM (false, in 2007’s case), you never said it was because he had an easy schedule, until I exposed your lack of knowledge on Tampa Bay’s 07 roster.

    Now, back to the point I made before that, even. Al Davis hasn’t had one winning season since losing the Super Bowl in ‘03. He hasn’t even crossed the 5 win mark in any season. Gruden won two division championships in that time, one of them clearly after Dungy and McCay, and just about any signs of them, were gone. I don’t think any more proof is required to make the point that Jon Gruden understands this game, at least today’s game, far more than Al Davis does.

  109. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    And sorry, Seymour, I’m not familiar with gay bars in Sacramento. I don’t go to bars, I’m not gay. Do you go to bars? Why? Overpriced beer, nothing but hard luck losers trying to recapture another life. Just the saddest places on earth, unless you’re under age 23 and with your entire college dorm. Do you fit that category? Because if you don’t, bar hopping is just sad. Oh, I was going to say, it’s ok if your’e a celebrity, too. But only if the bar is top notch and the staff is treating you like royalty. youre on this blog way too much to be a celebrity so I think that’s out, too. Sad life.

  110. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Richochet, I didn’t expect anything from contacting the authorities about what I perceived as a threat earlier. I just did it. The results of it are what they are. I’m just glad I did the right thing. I felt what I saw earlier was a threat, and felt something should be done about it. I don’t feel like I did anything morally wrong, and you haven’t convinced me I have, either.

  111. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I haven’t even thought about Madonna’s “borderline” in probably 20 years, which was the last time I even heard the song. It popped up quick in your head though, didn’t it, Seymour Bush?

  112. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    More like See less Bush, unless we’re talking man bush. Accusing others of being gay while making little Freudian slips yourself, for example, having the song “borderline” at the top of your head, is usually a sign that the guy making fun of gay people is fighting off the urges himself.

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  114. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!! :) :)

  115. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,MANNING / LEAF , BLEDSO / MIRER, THIS DRAFT STUFF WILL DRIVE U NUTS…

  116. hwnrdr Says:

    Yup, that is why I refuse…

  117. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Do the Raiders tender Morrison and Howard at second- or first-round levels, thereby guaranteeing their return? Or will they decide they’re simply not stout enough against the run and look to discard one or the other and get more physical up front.

    -Jerry Mac

    ***

    LB’s aren’t considered “up front” imo.

    up front = DL

    being stout against the run means upgrading at DT.

    get a real NT!

    Warren & Kelly aren’t getting it done. cut one of them and leave the other at UT. the one who stays at UT needs a serious paycut. Kelly is the younger of the two players and still might have some upside. We’ve never seen him next to a real NT before …

    We could always bring Warren back for depth & competition. My guess is nobody will want him in FA and we could re-sign him for peanuts a month or two after he’s released

  118. bcz24 Says:

    The draft is easy… there is little question in my mind that Al will draft Bruce Campbell. 6′6″ 314lbs, 4.8 40. He is an athletic FREAK… and his lineman skills are questionable. If that doesnt say Al Davis all over it then I dont know what does!

  119. neilb Says:

    Good morning all.

  120. neilb Says:

    Taking a corner or safety with the first pick says Al Davis.

  121. neilb Says:

    ……or another WR.

  122. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    BCZ24,CAN HE PLAY Q.B. ?

  123. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Dirt Lot, Rockstar, Bcz24 and Neil….

    Taking a corner or safety with the first pick says I’ll put a foot in my tv!!!!

    Ok, maybe not because I am getting older and really don’t want to buy another one, but…the tv will hear, once again, vulgarity and ‘FFFFFFFFFFFFFF’!!!!

  124. neilb Says:

    ref:Kirk and Thomas how much better would they be if they had some protection in front of them ?

  125. neilb Says:

    Hwnrdr…

    You just know it’s going to happen!!

  126. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good morning AM crew!

    I agree.

    I’ll be surprised if we DON’T pick Bryant, Mays or Campbell …

  127. hwnrdr Says:

    I know, but I like to think that Al will pick footballers instead of track stars…wait, who am I fooling?
    Brown, Jet, Ismael (sp?)…3 fastest fools in the NFL…(back then)

  128. neilb Says:

    Why would Al change his drafting policy now……..it’s worked so well recently!

  129. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Neil: I’ll go our on a limb here and say that I think Morrison & Howard are both good players. not great, but good. solid. whatever. I know that won’t earn me any points in here because of the hate fest on Capt Kirk and the repeated chants for a new MLB every other post. Thats ok. People blame KM for a bad run defense just like they blamed Mike Huff last year. a DB for pete’s sake!

    it takes 11 guys to stop the run, not 1. and it all starts up front. if the hogs up front aren’t doing their jobs, it makes the LB’s and DB’s look bad. puts them in a position to fail

    I’ll admit that I think Patrick Willis is a better MLB than Kirk Morrison, but I think if you traded them straight up you’d have similar results in both places because the 49ers put an emphasis on running the ball & stopping the run. being physical. the Raiders put an emphasis on passing the ball & defending the pass. finesse football.

  130. neilb Says:

    Wouldn’t disagree with anything you wrote Rockstar in post #129.

    How bad/average is Brian Urlacher (sp?) when he’s got nothing in front of him ?

  131. bcz24 Says:

    Mays had a terrible workout at the combine. He did ok in the bench and ran a 4.34 but he couldnt run backwards or change direction to save his life. He may have dropped right out of the first round.

  132. RaiderRockstar Says:

    BCZ: McShay said that Mays helped himself at the combine. He should stay in the 1st round. perhaps the bottom of the 1st round though because he had stiff hips. same with Joe Haden. if he doesn’t improve his 40 time at the Pro Day he’ll drop out of the top 10 or 15

  133. hwnrdr Says:

    I hope you are right…Bcz24

  134. jhill Says:

    I’ll go our on a limb here and say that I think Morrison & Howard are both good players.

    ——————————————————-

    I just don’t think the coaches think so. Howard lost his job to Trevor Scott and they tried to hand MOrrison’s job to Ricky Brown last offseason.

    Going to be really interesting to see what we do with those 2.

  135. hwnrdr Says:

    For humor purposes, I heard Merriman is upset in SD…

  136. neilb Says:

    Good.

  137. neilb Says:

    We’ll let Kirk go,someone will sign him and move him to the outside and BINGO……Probowl.

  138. jhill Says:

    So Haden and Mays are off our board with their workouts yesterday..

    We are going to take a DB or 2 in this draft though. Maybe rd2 or rd3.

    Their saying Eric Berry can play corner in the league, but I think he’ll be gone when we pick.

    I think we’re looking at the LOS with our 1st rd pick.

  139. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I heard Merriman is upset in SD…

    ***

    he wanted to test the market in free agency, but SD slapped the highest possible tender on him and now he’s pretty much stuck there unless some team offers a fatted calf

    doubtful. he’s hasn’t done anything after he got injured and quit juicing

  140. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I honestly think Al Davis would have overpaid Merriman if he would have hit the market and became an unrestricted free agent.

    glad SD locked him up this offseason for the year, especially when it’s uncapped!

  141. RaiderRockstar Says:

    We’ll let Kirk go,someone will sign him and move him to the outside and BINGO……Probowl.

    ***

    I think he could go to the Cardinals and replace Dansby to make the Pro Bowl at MLB

    but Bert Berry retired. Chike Okeafor, Bryan Robinson & Gabe Watson are free agents

    NY Giants to replace Antonio Pierce maybe?

  142. bcz24 Says:

    Yeah SD slapped the 1st and 3rd tender on Merriman… I didnt care if we got him or not I just wanted to see him out of the division!

  143. hwnrdr Says:

    Have a good day Nation!!!

  144. neilb Says:

    U 2 Hwnrdr!

  145. MaineRaida Says:

    If we could drop someone in the D there a la a Ray Lewis to constantly fire up Howard, Morrison etc. I think their play level would improve; Sapp yapped a lot but not the player he was before by then…we don’t really have a presence like that SO please Al start by improving our lines! both of them. First 2 if not 3 rounds, linemen.

  146. jhill Says:

    Yeeeeeahhh Buddy!

    There are A LOT of good players in this draft. We are going to get 2 starters in Rd 1 and 2, without question.

  147. Norco Bob Says:

    Good morning to my dear family in here,..what a glorious day.

  148. jhill Says:

    Can’t wait to see our tenders.

    All I know is Bruce better buy Russell something for getting him a 2 million dollar salary, lol. Russell doesn’t f up last year, Bruce is begging for work this offseason.

  149. MaineRaida Says:

    ps, linemen first 2 or 3 rounds *IMO*; Al of course will never go that route…especially if Berry’s still on the board.

  150. neilb Says:

    Be nice if that happened Jhill.

  151. neilb Says:

    Morning Bob!

  152. jhill Says:

    It’s going to be nice Neilb.

    I bet anything we take a guy like Iupati before Campbell.

  153. Norco Bob Says:

    How are you wonderful people doing?

  154. MaineRaida Says:

    is Andrew Walter still on the Pats? that poor guy…I don’t think he had any playing time in ‘09, and now there’s some speculation of the Pats going for Tebow…

  155. neilb Says:

    Jhill…

    I keep saying we should draft for run D but after the last few drafts I’d be happy with anyone as long as they produce from day 1.

  156. MaineRaida Says:

    doin great Norco, thanks…especially as our power is finally back on!

  157. RaiderRockstar Says:

    All I know is Bruce better buy Russell something for getting him a 2 million dollar salary, lol. Russell doesn’t mess up last year, Bruce is begging for work this offseason.

    ***

    JR doesn’t need anybody to buy him anything. maybe a piggy bank, because he’s stealing Al Davis’ money …

    you’re right though. nobody wanted Bruce or Charlie before they came in here and outplayed JaWalrus. Seeing as how thats not a huge accomplishment, these 3rd stringer journeyman type QB’s are still welcome back in Oakland until we find a legit franchise QB.

    Russell is a bust until proven otherwise and everybody else on the roster is a stopgap until proven otherwise

  158. neilb Says:

    Got to go….

    Have a great Wednesday everyone.

  159. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’d be happy with anyone as long as they produce from day 1.

    ***

    thats asking an awful lot from a rookie, especially in Oakland!

  160. MaineRaida Says:

    Amen Neil, having a few solid producers from day 1 would be sweet and much, much-needed…after quite a string of picks that have taken time to develop, or not at all, or spotty. Murphy’s probably our only guy in a while who has contributed significantly from the get-go?

  161. jhill Says:

    Iupati or Williams get my vote at 8

  162. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Maine: Louis Murphy did well for a 4th rounder.

    I wouldn’t say he’s there yet though. he dropped 9 balls last year and ran some bad routes at times.

    I wouldn’t guarantee him a starting job over Schilens, Higgins or Heyward-Bey just yet.

    He needs to earn it like everybody else. I think we’ll replace Javon Walker this offseason. I just hope it’s with a vet mentor, not a rookie or a scrub like Nick Miller or Todd Watkins!

  163. Norco Bob Says:

    I dont know why the Raiders dont employ the people in here for draft strategies. Iv never seen so many experts…this should be considered the war room.

  164. vegas raider Says:

    jhill Says:
    March 3rd, 2010 at 7:44 am

    All I know is Bruce better buy Russell something for getting him a 2 million dollar salary, lol. Russell doesn’t f up last year, Bruce is begging for work this offseason.

    ***************************

    Well sort of…

    If Bruce f’d up himself, he would be a candidate for the UFL next year, a la JP Losman.

    Instead, he took the lead for a starting gig in 2010.

    Between the LB’s and QB, and maybe even RB and WR, this is going to be an exciting preseason!!!

  165. 408RAIDER Says:

    Morning Nation!

    so aaron pelch special teams assistant coach is no longer with the team. What ever will we do?

  166. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Iupati or Williams get my vote at 8

    ***

    Trent Williams, right?

    I like Dan Williams …

    but OG & OT are definate needs!

  167. vegas raider Says:

    Louis Murphy is the next Andre Rison.

    Similar size, same type of fire, same deceptive speed to go deep, and both were good route runners and clutch players.

    I am excited to see his growth into year 2.

  168. MaineRaida Says:

    Russell is a bust until proven otherwise and everybody else on the roster is a stopgap until proven otherwise

    *****

    that about sums it up; what a discouraging situation. Cable’s (or whoever’s) trigger finger is going to be mighty twitchy when it comes to JR this year. It’s do or die this year for him.

  169. jhill Says:

    Williams the DT from Tenn. He should be the #1 DT on our board. Perfect fit to play next to Kelly.

  170. RaiderRockstar Says:

    so aaron pelch special teams assistant coach is no longer with the team.

    ***

    did he quit or get fired?

  171. vegas raider Says:

    As far as “system” fits so to speak, I have Iupati very high on my wish list.

    Okung is definately first, than T Williams,Iupati and Pouncey.

    If we can’t get Okung or T Williams at #8, I would hold off on tackle until the 3rd round or so.

    I would rather have the best G, than the 3rd or 4th tackle, and G is arguably a greater need that OT, especially when you consider Mario at LT and Gallery’s back.

  172. vegas raider Says:

    Why does one need an assistant special teams coach when we have the great Fassel at the helm?

  173. jhill Says:

    I take Iupati, plug him in at G and let him make his case for the HOF! I don’t even play around with putting him at OT.

  174. jhill Says:

    Iupati and a healthy Gallery at OG translates to a top 5 rushing attack, IMO. Year in and year out. Also guarantees a pocket for our QB to step up in to.

    I’d call that filling a need.

  175. Raider O Says:

    1- OT: T Williams, A Davis, or B Campbell
    2- DT: Lamarr Houston
    2- ILB: B Spikes (trade 3rd & 5th to mve up)
    3- WR/ KR: Jacoby Ford
    4- DE: Austen Lane (move Seymour inside full time)
    5- CB: Walter Thurmond, or OG: M Johnson or JJ.
    7- DT: Demarcus Granger, LB, or FB

    Lamarr & Spikes will improve our Run Defense.

  176. vegas raider Says:

    Bruce makes his own pockets

  177. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Why does one need an assistant special teams coach when we have the great Fassel at the helm?

    ***

    can we hire Jim Fassel as ST Coach and move his son John to asst ST Coach ???

    Jim seems to think that his son did a great job for us last year …

  178. Norco Bob Says:

    Im emailing the Raiders, informing them all the draft experts reside in here. Word. Expect to hear from them soon my dear friends.

  179. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raider O: Spikes was not impressive at the combine

    dropped from mid 1st to mid 2nd rounder.

    seeing how Al Davis likes to have his MLB’s in coverage, Spikes would be a flop in Oakland. all eyes on McClain at the Pro Day …

  180. jhill Says:

    I don’t think we go OT at 6 with Henderson still lcoked in at LT.

    If we go OT at 8, Henderson is out.

  181. MaineRaida Says:

    I think we’ll replace Javon Walker this offseason. I just hope it’s with a vet mentor, not a rookie or a scrub like Nick Miller or Todd Watkins!

    **********

    T.O. anyone? oh wait you said vet *mentor*, heh heh..

  182. jhill Says:

    Bob,

    Al already is on record acknowledging Jerry’s blog. They are already taking notes.

  183. Raider O Says:

    Iupati is overrated IMHO.

    Noodle arm GarbageKowski is not the answer. He is a good backup, but he will never be a franchise QB.

  184. 408RAIDER Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 3rd, 2010 at 8:13 am

    so aaron pelch special teams assistant coach is no longer with the team.

    ***

    did he quit or get fired?
    ——————————-

    he quit.. I cant post link 4 some reason..

  185. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    I’ll take SPOON over McClain, or I would take Spikes in the 2nd.

    SPOON!

  186. Norco Bob Says:

    Al doesnt know what a blog is,….might not have ever used a computer either.

  187. vegas raider Says:

    If Al takes Javier Arenas in round 2, and Bruce is a starter, I might go after Al for stealing my material

  188. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Brown retired. Pendergast quit & Pelch quit

    Hmmm…

    too bad John Fassel, Kelly Skipper & Sanjay Lal didn’t quit instead!!!

  189. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raider O: If Spoon is there when we pick in Round 2 Al Davis will draft him without giving it a second thought …

    even if he tenders both Morrison & Howard. one of them would be traded and Spoon would be the new MLB

    not what I’d like to see happen, but it’s a good possibility!

  190. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Javier Arenas will have to display “Raider speed” at his Pro Day if he’s gonna get drafted by grandpa davis

  191. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    You keep dating RD2!!

    Spoon is a top talent, ranked in the top 20, and there is no way he falls to the 2nd.

  192. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    You keep saying* RD2!!

    Spoon is a top talent, ranked in the top 20, and there is no way he falls to the 2nd.

  193. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raider O: Spoon at #8 would be a reach similar to Heyward-Bey

    trade down and get him at 25-30 …

  194. Raider O Says:

    Arenas is a 3rd RD pick.

    Draft Lamarr Houston and B Spikes!

  195. Raider O Says:

    A reach: yes!
    Like DHB: Hell No!!

    Spoon is a top 15 Talent IMHO, but I don’t think he will be drafted that high. I say he goes 15- 20.

  196. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jerry Mac already said that Al Davis isn’t going to draft a MLB in the Top 10 and if you’ve been a Raider fan long enough you already know that.

    so if you’re going to lobby for McClain/Spikes/Spoon at MLB, understand that it’s probably not going to happen unless they drop to the bottom of the 1st round or top of the 2nd and Al Davis trades up to grab one.

    I can see him going after Micah Johnson though in Round 3 if none of those other guys are around in RD2.

    Still, I vote to give KM another shot with a real NT. Thats my first choice

  197. Norco Bob Says:

    The Raiders should take my advice, give the Lambs whatever they demand to move in top spot,…go for Suh,…team his aasss with Seymour…youre welcome.

  198. jhill Says:

    It’s not a great sign for the organization when they are so confident no team will give up a second-round pick for their best quarterback. But it’s also a safe bet no one will go after Gradkowski at that price, so it’s a smart move.

    Gradkowski will make $1.759 million for one year if he signs the deal. The team doesn’t sound interested in awarding the Polish Popgun a long-term contract yet.

    This is just guess, but we suspect JaMarcus Russell won’t be the only legitimate competition Gradkowski faces for the job next year.

  199. RaiderRockstar Says:

    unless the Chiefs can get Berry, Suh, McCoy or Okung I think they’ll go after WR Dez Bryant …

    Chambers & Wade are FA’s and Bowe is in the doghouse

  200. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jhill’s comment was courtesy of PFT.

    and it’s also reported that EVERY player is on the trade block except for Zach Miller.

    so obviously teams aren’t going to trade a 2nd rounder for Russell either. Mike Bush is the only guy getting a sniff and Al Davis’ asking price is probably very high.

  201. Raider O Says:

    SPOON!!

  202. Dakota Says:

    Fire Cable and hire Fassel.

    Cut Russell, draft Clausen in round 1, play Garbage for one season, draft Mt. Cody in round 2.

    Sign the best free agent tackle, guard and center available.

    Sign Dansby.

    Simple stuff Al, now go get it done.

  203. Norco Bob Says:

    I used to have an insider in Alameda, hence the old name I used to use here,..but hes now lovin life workin with the A`s….anyway, I have a new one, not nearly as legit as other one,..anyway, heres what I was told just this morning,…the Russell bonus baby money is spent, its gone,…thats no secret of course…this year assuming he makes final roster his 2010 salary will be aprox 9.5 million,…the little Polock will make less then 2 unless hes signing a longer deal then the 1 year he will be guarunteed…anyway I was told, as I am sure Russell was, due to salary, if he doesnt win starting job in Napa, he will be released,…contrary to my new row 1 insights, they feel he has no shot to even land 2nd string job,…the point is, its almost a lock, if not a lock, that Russell wont be on final 2010 roster. Word.

  204. Norco Bob Says:

    Friday when free agency begins, Oakland should zero in on Mawae…word.

  205. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Sign the best free agent tackle, guard and center available.

    ***

    Cable did that last year with Satele, Barnes & Pears!

    and the year before with Wade, Harris & Marten!

  206. 408RAIDER Says:

    Bob

    stop playing with my emotions. This is how rumors get started..

  207. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Bobby:

    what kind of insider info do you get by having seats in row 1 when it’s March (not August) ???

  208. Norco Bob Says:

    You guys excited about baseball season?…I got my mini ticket plan for the A`s…24 games…I also have bought 6 games for the Giants…heading to Pheonix next week…yes they still deliver the beer to your seats there…hey now.

  209. Norco Bob Says:

    Wannaberocker,..Im not following your question…rephrase it.

  210. RaiderRockstar Says:

    fire Cable 2 days before free agency & offer Dansby 30+ million to play behind DT’s Warren & Kelly?

    Dakota: having you been drinking this morning?

  211. Norco Bob Says:

    All you fire Cable guys…why ya want him axed?…I thought he did a great job with a horrible team.

  212. RaiderRockstar Says:

    games don’t start until August (preseason) Bobbo.

    how can you be getting insider info, when it’s only March?

    row 1 seats mean nothing this time of year …

    and your janitor friend now works for the A’s. remember?

  213. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    Like I said: I like Spikes in the 2nd RD, and IF we were to draft a LB in the 1st, I would like it to be SPOON.

    I know we are not drafting a LB at 8, and I have been saying that we should draft Spikes in the 2ND.

    KM is not a great ILB, and can do better as an OLB like his rookie year.

  214. Norco Bob Says:

    My row 1 insights are my own insights, row 1 comes with special powers,..the insider stuff from the building, the month on the calendar doesnt matter. Hey now.

  215. Norco Bob Says:

    Hes not a janitor, hes in marketing. And theres nothing wrong with mopping floors either by the way. Dont hold that against Old Kell the Troll.

  216. Raider O Says:

    Fire the Fat Monkey 2 days before FA!

    Just Do It!

  217. Raider O Says:

    Rick Bobby,

    Word!

  218. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raider O: Kell is not going to allow his black panther buddies to bank at BOO if you freely use terms like “monkey” in there. you racist!

    hehe

  219. Norco Bob Says:

    Raider O,..when you use words like that to describe Russell,..be warned, MR has made himself the “white guy that makes sure everyone knows he suffers for minorities”…you know, the phony guy that eventually runs for some office…lol…anyway, he has the FBI on speed dial, so watch those racist comments…hey now.

  220. jhill Says:

    How anyone who saw Al Davis talk about Jamarcus Russell at the Kiffin PC can even bring themselves to think that AL would cut Russell amazes me.

    It’s not going to happen man!

    Short of Russell doing something criminal or drug related, he’s not getting cut.

  221. Raider O Says:

    Black panthers don’t like KK. He has a white wife!

    lol

  222. jhill Says:

    I’m pretty sure O was talking about Cable, lol!

  223. Norco Bob Says:

    Not only that, the panthers hate it that Old kell married a dude…they are against that.

  224. Richochet Says:

    Bobbo?
    I’m in the mood to live vicariously through a gorgeous hottie that is tweeting you, describing her wanton desires…any stars on your agenda this AM?

    No washed up wannabees..if you don’t mind.

    Something retro would work.

  225. Raider O Says:

    I’m not Racist. I Call most of You People “Talking Monkeys” regardiess of race.

  226. Norco Bob Says:

    Ok rich,..2 days ago I got a DM from Debbie Mazar,..that work for you?

  227. Norco Bob Says:

    You calling Russell or old kell the troll a monkey doesnt bother me,..it bothers MR,..hes a man of the people. lol…it wouldnt bother me if you called me one either,..I like monkeys. :)

  228. jhill Says:

    2 days ago I got a DM from Debbie Mazar

    ——————————————————-

    Who?

  229. Richochet Says:

    # Raider O Says:
    March 3rd, 2010 at 9:30 am

    Black panthers don’t like KK. He has a white wife!

    lol

    ==============
    Oh dude…you are INNNNN ITTTT!!!!..big time.

    MR is reporting you, as we speak.

    As of 9:35 AM, that is the 4,844,325th snide innuendo posted today, in the country.
    This will be investigate, post haste.
    Your appointment to appear and show just cause is 2023…Tuesday.
    Don’t be late.

  230. Raider O Says:

    Regardless*

  231. Norco Bob Says:

    Rich, I save all my DM`s,..have a nice collection going.

  232. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    March 3rd, 2010 at 8:34 am
    Al doesnt know what a blog is,….might not have ever used a computer either.
    =============================================
    Al is still reading the manual from his Kodak Super 8 projector. He’s probably firing up the slide projector and pulling down the screen as we type.

  233. RaiderRockstar Says:

    O: what do you mean by “YOU PEOPLE” ?

    LOL

  234. RaiderD Says:

    http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders-headlines/ci_14458243

    You bring him back and he bites u in the A$$!!

    Bravo Al Davis!!

  235. Norco Bob Says:

    jhill,..google her, seeing how you arent hip to pop culture.

  236. Richochet Says:

    Debi Mazar? Eyes melt ya…ok…ya…that works.

    See if you can round me up an afternoon snack, if possible.

  237. RaiderD Says:

    Now, if AL tries to fire hanson hes gonna get sued for wrongful termination right?

  238. Norco Bob Says:

    Shes pretty hot,…not as hot as the DM I got from Heidi Montag though. :)

  239. RaiderRockstar Says:

    D: that was over a week ago brother!

  240. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    With what I’ve seen of the combine and who’s available in the draft and FA, I really don’t see a lot out there except for the OL. I was a lot more excited the last 3 yrs and that’s probably why I’m just reading and not posting.

    Go Lakers!

  241. Raider O Says:

    Rich,

    I disagree.
    I said that he has a white wife which is a fact according to him, and BPs were not big on interracial marriages which is a fact too.

    I’m good!

  242. Richochet Says:

    Wasn’t Debs in Goodfellas? Henry Hills afternoon delight?

  243. RaiderD Says:

    really?guess im behind on the times! ive been busy trying to keep up with the A’s and spring training.

    MY BAD!

  244. Richochet Says:

    # Raider O Says:
    March 3rd, 2010 at 9:42 am

    Rich,

    I disagree.
    I said that he has a white wife which is a fact according to him, and BPs were not big on interracial marriages which is a fact too.

    I’m good!
    ========================
    You’re probably right.
    Oh..and that “clicking” on the phone?
    Just a bad connection ;)

  245. Norco Bob Says:

    Ya Richard, thats her.

  246. RaiderD Says:

    Richo shes in entourage as well.

  247. Norco Bob Says:

    I have about 3 from her,..2 from Heidi,…1 from the real miss usa…1 from Brooklyn Becker. Nice collection.

  248. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    LMAO

  249. Dakota Says:

    Exla,

    I agree…not much to be excited about this year. Al drafting DHB last year out of nowhere really put a damper on discussing what logically might happen in the draft.

    Now I wouldn’t be surprised to see Al draft Mays in round 1.

    I never thought Al could almost ruin my taste for draft talk.

    At least we have the Lakers!

  250. jhill Says:

    Heidi Montag

    ——————————————————

    Who?

  251. Norco Bob Says:

    I have a great DM I wish I could share,..but its funny,..what she told me about that gross homo Perez Hilton. lol

  252. Norco Bob Says:

    sorry jhill, we arent buying that you havent a clue,..nice try though.

  253. Richochet Says:

    # RaiderD Says:
    March 3rd, 2010 at 9:41 am

    Now, if AL tries to fire hanson hes gonna get sued for wrongful termination right?
    ==========================
    Ha…you wish.

    As we speak Al is planting Sweet N Low packets in Randy’s belongings….

  254. Raider O Says:

    Rich,

    LMAO

    That clicking noise has been there for a few years now. I’m Arab/ American.

  255. hellsbells Says:

    Evans guard NO. Should have to overpay but could be worth it. Rated out best run-blocker on squad. Also picked up his pass protection. Also see about J. Brown LT NO. They won the superbowl without him

  256. Dakota Says:

    My wife likes to bring up that Heidi Montag (sp?) woman occasionally. I have no fukin clue who she is, so I just space out and nod at what I believe to be appropriate times during her story. From what I did gather is that she is married to the dude that blew the SB for the Colts…hank Baskett.

    That made me laugh during the SB.

  257. jhill Says:

    Oh..and that “clicking” on the phone?
    Just a bad connection

    —————————————————–

    LMFAO!

    Yeah O, and never mind those extra few seconds it takes you internet to connect as well.

  258. Norco Bob Says:

    Ya ok Dakota,..we believe you. lol

  259. Dakota Says:

    So Bruce Campbell had a great combine but his play on the field doesn’t live up to the hype.

    Sounds like a perfect Al pick.

  260. DMAC Says:

    Morning Nation

  261. RaiderD Says:

    rainy morning…

  262. jhill Says:

    So Bob, you like Miley Cirus too?

    I have to say this boards taste in women makes me serious question your abilty to judge talent.

  263. jhill Says:

    Mayock and the “made for TV draftniks”, lol, are not ragging on Campbell the way they did DHB. He seems to be a …

    hold on, Giada serving lunch.

  264. Richochet Says:

    Ya bobbo…no MTV rejects.
    I hate pretending I watch that crappola and know who you’re talking about.
    I’d rather pretend I’m indifferent and that she’s old news.

  265. Raider O Says:

    What are you guys talking about? You are crazy. I pay taxes & smoke weed!

  266. Norco Bob Says:

    Mileys hot…dont think shes 18 yet though. word.

  267. Dakota Says:

    Bruce Campbell…300+ lbs and ripped?

    Has performance enhancing drugs written all over him.

    Tony Mandarich Jr.

  268. Richochet Says:

    # Raider O Says:
    March 3rd, 2010 at 10:00 am

    What are you guys talking about?
    You are crazy.
    I pay taxes & smoke weed!
    ==============================
    I can vouch for the last two.
    No idea on the first one.

  269. jhill Says:

    Rich,

    Did O smoke you out while you prepared his tax return?

  270. Richochet Says:

    I can remember reading how the Niners tackle, Bubba Paris, got some hefty fines from Bill Walsh because he was over 300 lbs. That it was unhealthy and dangerous to be packing that much weight while exerting yourself…and he was on a regiment that got him and kept him below 300.

    Man…how times have changed.

  271. Raider O Says:

    I don’t lie! I’m a car salesman. lol

  272. RaiderRockstar Says:

    trade the walrus for Bubba Paris!

  273. Richochet Says:

    Jhill…lol…guess I should have said ‘I have it in good standing on the latter two”

    I mean…doesn’t everyone pay taxes?
    And those who don’t/haven’t smoked weed? *wink*..of COURSE you don’t/haven’t ;)

    I feel, if necessary, that Clinton’s “I didn’t inhale” suffices..if need be. :)

  274. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LOL. probably even a USED car salesman …

    “hey come test drive this clunker. it has YOU PEOPLE written all over it!”

  275. RaiderRockstar Says:

    trade Prez BO for Clinton’s cigar!

  276. Dakota Says:

    RaiderO,

    Don’t worry, ITAC is keeping a close eye on you. Your backstop isn’t fooling anyone. Brick agents are following your every move. Hunting packs follow your family. Every time you leave your house, which isn’t very often, you need to get out more, they have trigger agents calling in your every move. The blowback isn’t coming soon, but when it does it will be a thing of beauty!

  277. Raider O Says:

    Rich,

    It was a joke. stereotype about Arabs not paying taxes.

  278. jhill Says:

    Every time you leave your house, which isn’t very often, you need to get out more,

    ——————————————————-

    LMFAO!

    He’s a student who gets high, man!

    I think we need some new agents on the job.

  279. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    LMAO I sold USED & New.

    Dakota,

    Tell your agency to leave me alone. I study a lot, and I like being around my family. lol

  280. Dakota Says:

    Taylor Mays and Bruce Cambell = Combine fools gold.

    I am sure we will pick one of them…

  281. hellsbells Says:

    NFL network said you could get a deal in the form of Robinson CB from Houston. Guess he will not command top dollar.

  282. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Taylor Mays and Bruce Cambell = Combine fools gold.

    I am sure we will pick one of them…

    ***

    if we cut or trade Mike Huff prior to the draft you’ll know who Al Davis is targeting at #8 …

    if we let Barnes, Green & Walker go in FA and/or cut Pears and keep Huff Daddy that’ll be a big signal as well …

  283. RaiderRockstar Says:

    HB: Adam Schefter said Dunta Robinson will get at least 10 million per season on NFL Live the other day.

    he’s the #1 CB on the market.

    Leigh Bodden is second best and he’s not even that great imo

    after them it’s all washed up vets or young scrubs

  284. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Suckeye season tix! Then burn em!

  285. RaiderRockstar Says:

    they said there aren’t many teams that AREN’T looking for CB help, so there could be a potential bidding war

    not something I’d like to get involved in!

  286. Norco Bob Says:

    By the way, I got an email read today on the air of a very popular sports talk show. Hey now. :)

  287. RaiderRockstar Says:

    BSJ:

    trade DMAC for Maurice Clarett?

  288. 408RAIDER Says:

    http://www.sierra30.com/#/jack-and-ken-s-ale

  289. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Hank Baskett of the Colts is married to Hugh Hefner’s ex-girlfriend Kendra from the Girls Next Door. Not only did he drop the pass but he got Hugh’s 2nds.

  290. RaiderRockstar Says:

    how many Buckeyes will get drafted?

    Kurt Coleman, Anderson Russell, Ray Small, Chimdi Chekwa, Aaron Pettrey & Thaddeus Gibson ???

  291. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Bruce Campbell = Mike Mamula = Vernon Gholston

  292. Raider O Says:

    Leave it to Mich Preppie fans to find new ways for wasting money.

    Damn you Mich!

  293. Norco Bob Says:

    trade entire draft for rams top pick,..draft suh, sign him a month before draft…then dont send any raider reps to NY for draft…word.

  294. RaiderRockstar Says:

    trade entire draft for rams top pick,..draft suh, sign him a month before draft…then dont send any raider reps to NY for draft

    ***

    we’d still show up to trade 2011’s 2nd rounder for Jacoby Ford!

  295. RaiderRockstar Says:

    O: I don’t know how many Jimmy Carter worshippers are preppies …

    probably not many!

  296. RaiderRockstar Says:

    lunch! BBL

  297. Raider O Says:

    Suh is the best player in this draft, and I think we should do everything we can to trade up for him.
    6′4 310, runs well, strong, and can help our DL for the next 10 years.
    Suh, Seymour, Matt S, and Ellis make a good Dline. Add a LB like Spikes in the 2nd and that will make us a great Defense.

  298. Raider O Says:

    Or,

    We can draft OT in the 1st, draft DT Lamarr Houston in the 2nd, and then trade a 3rd and 5th to move up to the 2nd again to draft ILB B Spikes.

    We need an OT, DT, and a MLB.
    I you know you don’t agree on the MLB RR, but I think we should resign Kirk as a SLB and tender & trade TH. Kirk can to a lot better as a SLB like his rookie season.

  299. DMAC Says:

    Your the Raider GM. Which one these O’linemen do you select????
    Okung
    Williams
    Davis
    Cambell
    Bulaga
    why?

  300. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    I pick the 6th choice why?

  301. DMAC Says:

    lmao

  302. RaiderRockstar Says:

    new post!

    yippee!

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