ESPN: Warren, Fargas could be cut
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, March 4th, 2010 at 8:09 am in Oakland Raiders.
ESPN’s Adam Schefter is expecting defensive tackle Gerard Warren and running back Justin Fargas to be released before scheduled bonus payments are due early this month.
In a related story, Raiders.com reports tickets are still available for the Commitment to Excellence awards dinner, featuring tight end Zach Miller and . . . . running back Justin Fargas.
Fargas has won or shared the award for three consecutive seasons.
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March 4th, 2010 at 8:09 am
Finally rid of Fargas!
March 4th, 2010 at 8:09 am
2nd?
March 4th, 2010 at 8:10 am
Ger ready for the Mike Bush featuring DMAC show!
March 4th, 2010 at 8:10 am
Jerry I already posted that. lol
March 4th, 2010 at 8:11 am
when is the Commitment to Excellence awards dinner?
hopefully BEFORE justin’s bonus is due!
March 4th, 2010 at 8:12 am
Jerry Mac still hasn’t posted anything about Hiram Eugene …
hopefully that was just a cruel joke!
March 4th, 2010 at 8:13 am
“This year, we present our Commitment to Excellence award to… Justin Fargas. To change things up a little bit, we’ve redesigned it a bit: it’s no longer a trophy, but rather a beautifully pink colored slip of paper. Congratulations, Justin.”
March 4th, 2010 at 8:14 am
Not sure one bad move has beed made so far. If Morrison, Warren, Fargas, Green, Barnes, and Pears are all upgraded, then that is a good thing. If Stan Routt is no longer going to play in the slot, that’s a good thing. Open QB competition, good thing!
So far, so good!
Now get me Iupati in rd 1, Lamar Houston in Rd 2, Micah Johnson and Skelton in rd 3, and we are ready for OTAs!
March 4th, 2010 at 8:14 am
repost –
Seymour & Kelly at DT would mean more time for Shaughnessy, but also means we’re drafting a DE.
Ellis is old & brittle. entering the last year of his contract
Richardson/Gunheim aren’t starter quality …
Jason Pierre-Paul (DE South Florida)
I seriously doubt Derrick Morgan is available at #8 unless he has a bad showing at the Pro Day
March 4th, 2010 at 8:17 am
get me Iupati in rd 1, Lamar Houston in Rd 2, Micah Johnson and Skelton in rd 3, and we are ready for OTAs!
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1st of all, Morrison would have to be TRADED.
2nd of all, Pears is still on the roster and under contract
3rd of all, can Iupati play RT? you don’t normally draft guards in the top 10 …
March 4th, 2010 at 8:17 am
I’d like to see you mock of the first 8 picks RRS.
Who do you think takes A DE before 8?
March 4th, 2010 at 8:23 am
Is it you disagreeing with your boy Jerry on him being unblockable?
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Jerry Mac said AT TIMES he looked unblockable. meaning he’s very inconsistent. Said TK also had those moments.
He said this about the DL (not LB’s) in that same article:
“the amount of rushing yardage they surrendered through either shabby tackling, poor gap control, or simply getting pushed around.”
so was he talking about Ellis, Seymour, Richardson & Shaughnessy or was he talking about the DT’s humpty & dumpty? you tell me …
March 4th, 2010 at 8:24 am
You don’t think the great Kirk Morrison is going to get any other offers? You think he signs the tender to back up Ricky Brown?
Pears? Really? What kinda contract did he sign last year that has him still on the roster? There’s your RT.
Hey, I wanted Mack last year at 7. I’d take Iupati at 8 plug him in at RG, and watch him dominate for the next 10 years on his way to the HOF. I have no interest in moving him to RT. Satele needs him next to him more than anything, IMO! Run game blossoms.
Or you can give me the big homey Langston to play RG if you want to snag Williams at 8. I’m good either way. A few good options out there.
March 4th, 2010 at 8:29 am
RRS,
Why did you leave out the part of the SAME sentence that preceeded that comment?
“On one hand, the Raiders often played on the opposite side of the line and were among the league leaders in tackles for loss.”
Guess that part didn’t really help you post, huh? They way you pick and choose and take things out of context is very RRS’ish of you, lol.
So tell me who Jerry was talking about OFTEN playing on the opposite side of the line and getting tackles for losses?
March 4th, 2010 at 8:31 am
They can’t cut Money. He was Russell’s last friend.
Oh well, Bruce Campbell and Jacoby can enjoy some of Mrs. Gradkowski’s famous casserole without him.
March 4th, 2010 at 8:32 am
I’d like to see you mock of the first 8 picks
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Here are the Top 10 picks as I see it. not in order. no team specified (yet)
Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
Russell Okung, T, Oklahoma State
Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
Joe Haden, CB, Florida
Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech
Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
March 4th, 2010 at 8:33 am
We are releasing Fargas to get another runningback to form the three headed “joke” of a monster. Here is the reason why. They never had faith in Mike Bush running the ball and DMAC is always prone to being hurt. Plus, to date DMAC has been a bust at RB. All those who hated us drafting DMac so far are right.
Don’t be surpised if Big Al makes a run for Darren Sproles.
Don’t forget you heard it here first.
March 4th, 2010 at 8:36 am
If we don’t draft a lineman with our first round pick Al is not only off his rocker, he will also be on Crack.
March 4th, 2010 at 8:40 am
So tell me who Jerry was talking about OFTEN playing on the opposite side of the line and getting tackles for losses?
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I’ll give you the stats, but you’ll probably steal a line from Debo, Tomlin & Belicheat like “stats are for losers” right?
Tackles for a loss:
Morrison – 8
Howard – 7.5
Branch – 5.5
Asomugha – 5.5
Seymour – 5
Kelly – 5
Shaughnessy – 4.5
Scott – 2.5
Warren – 2
Alston – 2
Williams – 2
Bryant – 1.5
Ellis – 1
Richardson – 1
Johnson – 1
Huff, Eugene, Brown, Routt & Mitchell = 0
March 4th, 2010 at 8:42 am
I seriously doubt Derrick Morgan is available at #8 unless he has a bad showing at the Pro Day
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Point of the mock ? was who you thought would take Morgan before 8.
March 4th, 2010 at 8:45 am
1 St. Louis Rams
2 Detroit Lions
3 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
4 Washington Redskins
5 Kansas City Chiefs
6 Seattle Seahawks
7 Cleveland Browns
8 Oakland Raiders
9 Buffalo Bills
10 Jacksonville Jaguars
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hmmm
give me a little bit. i’ll get back to you …
March 4th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Morning Nation
March 4th, 2010 at 8:53 am
1 St. Louis Rams – Bradford/Clausen
2 Detroit Lions – Suh
3 Tampa Bay Buccaneers – McCoy
4 Washington Redskins – Okung
5 Kansas City Chiefs – Berry
6 Seattle Seahawks – Bradford/Clausen
7 Cleveland Browns – Morgan
8 Oakland Raiders – Davis
9 Buffalo Bills – Bryant
10 Jacksonville Jaguars – Haden
March 4th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Why all the non Dlineman on you list. The comment was specific to the Dline. No reading between the lines man. Jerry simply said in regards to the Dline ….
“On one hand, the Raiders often played on the opposite side of the line and were among the league leaders in tackles for loss.”
Commence with the spinning, lol!
I’ll catch up later, duty calls.
March 4th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Haden won’t past the brownies. I like drafting Davis though.
March 4th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Not a bad mock …
March 4th, 2010 at 8:56 am
RRs,
Just a note to show how stats can be misleading:
Huff, Eugene, Brown, Routt, and Mitchell didn’t have ANY tackles for loss this past season… BUT… how many times did we blitz them? Discounting Brown at LB, the rest are safeties. A safety will NOT have a tackle for loss unless he blitzes and is at or near the LOS when the ball is snapped. The fact that we send a player from the secondary on a blitz roughly once a season would be a good reason that they combine for 0 tackles for loss.
As Mark Twain said:
“There are three kinds of lies… lies, damned lies, and statistics.”
March 4th, 2010 at 8:57 am
I have Weis snatching Clausen and Cassell being cut.
March 4th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Bills might trade up with the Seaturds though and grab Clausen at #6. then Seattle would give Hasselbeck another season and replace Walter Jones with OT Davis/Williams/Campbell at #9 … whoever Oakland doesn’t select
March 4th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Anyone know what Fargas is slated to make this season? Isn’t it around $5 million? I believe Warren is due the same.
This draft is extremely deep in both RBs and DTs. I think those are the two deepest positions in it so this makes sense. Not to mention it’s time to let Bush and McFadden take the reins.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Jerry simply said in regards to the Dline ….
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fine. Seymour, Kelly, Shaughnessy & Scott all had more TFL’s than “money”. Matt & Trevor weren’t even every down players
my boy Kirk had more TFL’s than Warren & Kelly combined! LOL
March 4th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Steve: we did blitz with DB’s last year!
haha
ask New England Raider. thats why MM34 will be a stud, because of how he looks in blitz packages …
March 4th, 2010 at 9:04 am
I have Weis snatching Clausen and Cassell being cut.
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then dump Russell and get Cassel before Dungver does!
March 4th, 2010 at 9:05 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Bills might trade up with the Seaturds though and grab Clausen at #6. then Seattle would give Hasselbeck another season and replace Walter Jones with OT Davis/Williams/Campbell at #9 … whoever Oakland doesn’t select
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That makes sense. Although the Seaturds could be interested in drafting Clausen themselves since Hasselbeck is like 35 with back issues and declining performance. Not to mention Pete Carroll has ties to Clausen and wanted him at USC.
And not to mention the Seahawks have another 1st round pick with which they can address their LT position. I could see them snagging USC LT Charles Brown who was excellent for Carroll and is projected as a 1st rounder. I actually think Brown could wind up being the best of this year’s OT group.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:06 am
If Huggy Bear is cut, how about drafting Stef Johnson in the later rounds???
March 4th, 2010 at 9:07 am
how is posting stats “spinning” ?
stats = facts. that shows what actually happened and takes “opinion” out of the equation
why are you still backing a player that is about to get the axe? Morrison was not under contract and got tendered. Warren was under contract and they are actually gonna toss him to the curb. what does that tell you?
March 4th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Chris -
good points about Clausen & Brown to Seattle.
Bills are not bringing back WR’s Owens or Reed. that leaves Evans (just 44 catches last year) and Hardy (10 catches combined over the past 2 seasons)
Dez Bryant to Buffalo?
March 4th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Morning all.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:17 am
can any 1 tell me why i continue to like the dumbest team in america when gillete stadium is 10 min away.i could actually support a winning team thats makes moves like brady for a 6th or randy for a 4th lol.i hate the raiders.j/k love the naaaaaaation!!!
March 4th, 2010 at 9:19 am
good morning Neil!
whats up bro?
March 4th, 2010 at 9:19 am
i just dont get it fargas is our 2cnd best runner behind bush.Mcfadden will never be a starting calibber rb.and he gets the most money lol what a joke.his best plays were lined up in the slot as reciever
March 4th, 2010 at 9:20 am
Dez Bryant to Buffalo makes a lot of sense Rockstar. Of course, if St. Louis takes Sam Bradford instead of Suh things could really get crazy because Washington, Seattle and Buffalo are all also looking for QBs and I get the sense that there’s a dropoff from the top two (Bradford & Clausen) to everyone else.
Chiefs are in a prime spot to swing a deal with one of those teams with that No. 3 pick.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:21 am
can any 1 tell me why i continue to like the dumbest team in america when gillete stadium is 10 min away.
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because
1. you’re a loyal fan
and
2. you’re not a d-bag patsy!
March 4th, 2010 at 9:21 am
Why haven’t the Raiders offered a tender to the kick-off coverage pigeon? That bird was a force. And it kept to its lane maintaining containment.(Oughta get Ekejiuba money for that.)
March 4th, 2010 at 9:22 am
Morning Rockstar….
Not much really,the usual stuff……work,eat,sleep and think WTF are the Raiders thinking with Routt.
Yourself?
March 4th, 2010 at 9:24 am
wtf y would routt get a 1st and 3rd round tender.well i guess its goodbye namdi.your services were appreciated by most but know we gotta shell that money out to another bum past his prime.Hec lets resign javon walker to another fat contract.that was a smooth move no? I HATE YOU AL DAVIS.DO THE WORLD A FAVOR AND CROOCK ALREADY.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:24 am
Trade Dmac for the coverage pigeon!
March 4th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Chiefs are in a prime spot to swing a deal with one of those teams with that No. 3 pick.
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the Bucs are 3rd Chris, but that still makes sense.
Bills or Seahawks could trade up to try and get Clausen before Washington is on the clock at #4
March 4th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Fargas is due too much money. He’s 30 and has a lot of wear and tear. This draft is loaded with RBs. It’s time for Bush and McFadden to get a shot.
McFadden really hasn’t had his chance yet. I’m not ready to write him off. He’s one of our most explosive players and he’s never had a chance to get more than about 10 touches per game. That’s really not enough to be a difference maker. Time for him to get 15-20 touches per game every game. If he stays healthy, he’ll break out with that kind of workload.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:26 am
THANX ROCKSTAR I FEEL BETTER LOL. I HATE LIVING IN NEW ENG WITH ALL THESE D BAG PAT FANS.HAPPIEST DAY OF MY LIFE WAS WHEN BRADY WENT DOWN WITH THAT KNEE INJURY HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
March 4th, 2010 at 9:27 am
That pigeon will never be back. That was Cooper on his last play. R.I.P
March 4th, 2010 at 9:27 am
TRADE D MAC FOR THE PIGEON LOL GOOD STUFF GOT MY VOTE CALL A.D
March 4th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Neil: just the usual convo’s on March 4th
“who should we get in free agency & who should we draft”
normal stuff.
Al Davis threw a wrench into those discussions though by assigning some wacked out tenders to players we thought weren’t even worth keeping around for depth!
March 4th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Mcskinny, I’m about 90 minutes from Gillette and loathe the Patriots, ecspecially the band wagon fans. I didn’t mind them back in the Hugh Millen, Hart lee Dykes, Mosi Tatupu days. Now I am just sickened, and can’t wait for them to crumble!
March 4th, 2010 at 9:31 am
neilb Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 9:24 am
Trade Dmac for the coverage pigeon!
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Well done Neil!
March 4th, 2010 at 9:31 am
MCSKINNYLEGS HAD PLENTY OF SHOTS ON OFFENSE DONT GIVE ME THAT B.S. THEY CONTINUALLY FED HIM THE BALL WHEN BUSH OF FRAGAS WERE TEARIN IT UP.HORRIBBLE COACHING.AND IVE NEVER SEEN A RB THAT CAN TACKLE HIMSELF LIKE MECFADDEN DOES HE TRIPS ON HIS OWN FEET HE SUCKS BOTTOM LINE ALWAYS HATED THE PICK
March 4th, 2010 at 9:31 am
Rockstar…
What else is there ?!!
I still say my trade with the Rams is the way to go!
March 4th, 2010 at 9:32 am
Anybody Watch Total Access last night? I have to say the more I watch/listen to Tim Tebow the harder it is to not like him. Can you say the Anti J.Russ?
March 4th, 2010 at 9:32 am
John Smith used to kick for the Pats.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Neil: I agree
a real NT is the only way to go imo
either start Routt with his $3.2 million and trade Nnamdi with his $15-25 million each year to get Suh
or leave the DB’s alone and reach for Dan Williams at #8
March 4th, 2010 at 9:35 am
HAIRY BUSH BACK IN THE BLEDSOE DAYS HOW MANY PATS FANS DID YOU HEAR RAVING ABOUT THE TEAM.NEW ENGLAND HAS THE BIGGEST BAND WAGON FANS THERE ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY.ILL NEVER FORGET THIS.IT WAS PROBABLY LIKE 1 WEEK AFTER PATS WERE KO OUT UF PLAYOFFS EVERYONE AND THERE MOTHER WAS WEARING A SAINTS JERSEY.GRANTED THEY ALL HATE PEYTON BUT DAMN
March 4th, 2010 at 9:35 am
DMAC,
I realize that, but Coop’s family could probably use the cash and just the memory of the pigeon is more noteworthy than the play of some on the roster.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:36 am
RED SOX FANS EVEN WORSE.SOX START WINNIN ALL OF A SUDDEN EVERY 1 WANTS 2 BE A FAN
March 4th, 2010 at 9:37 am
$3.2 million……..how many of us are just shaking our heads reading that ?
March 4th, 2010 at 9:37 am
HB: couldn’t agree more
Tebow will be a good QB imo with a year to sit, watch & learn.
Jackson, Tollner, Hackett & Southwick could turn this kid into a potential 16 game starter his soph NFL season (like Carson Palmer)
March 4th, 2010 at 9:37 am
Personally, I think cutting Fargas is a huge mistake! I do not want to see him in a Chargers’ uniform.
Fargas is a spark-plug. When DMAC falls trips over a shoe-string tackle and Bush stutter-steps in the backfield when we only need 3 inches, Fargas is the guy who comes in and punches the other team in the mouth.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Win lose ot tie Raider Nation till I die!
F-Bellichek F-Moss F-local talk radio F-poser fans!
I would like to see how these “fans” would handle what Raider fans have been going through. There would probaly be 12 fans left in the area until they were good again.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:39 am
Cardinals are asking a 3rd rounder for Bolden. Make the move Uncle AL!!
March 4th, 2010 at 9:39 am
WELL SAID RYAN
March 4th, 2010 at 9:40 am
HAIRY BUSH DO YOU LISTEN 2 WEEI ?
March 4th, 2010 at 9:40 am
103.7 SPORTS RADIO?
March 4th, 2010 at 9:41 am
RR, the thing about Tebow is I love the attitude. Perhaps I put to much stock into it, but I think it is what can make good into great. (once again the anti Russell philosophy!)
March 4th, 2010 at 9:42 am
A 3rd round pick for Boldin ? Can we afford his wage ?
March 4th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Mc, I don’t think I can handle anymore WEEI! Talk about biased opinions.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Even in a galaxy fargas, fargas away Justin isn’t worth the roster bonus and salary he is due.
Maybe he’ll re-structure. Maybe he’s outta here.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:43 am
WEEI has some real knuckle heads as “personalities”
March 4th, 2010 at 9:44 am
M- it would be painful to see him resurface in the AFC west!
March 4th, 2010 at 9:44 am
” in a galaxy fargas, fargas away ”
Good one M !!
March 4th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Fargas=buttplug, errr sparkplug. Seriously he does have a good team attitude. Put him on special teams in place of Ekajuba and his special teams salary. At least Justin can come in and play a position if some one were hurt.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:47 am
NO THE REASON WHY I ASK IS B/C (AND I ASKED JERRY THIS DURIN THE LIVE CHAT BUT HE DIDNT ANSWER)WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE IS A STRIKE IN 2011 DO THE PATS GET BURNT ON THE PICK WE GAVE FOR SEYMOUR.IF YES I CANT WAIT 2 CALL AND PUNK THEM ALL OFF FOR TALKIN HOW THAT WAS THE DUMBEST TRADES MADE BY A.D.FUNNY HOW BAD THERE D SUKED W/O SEYMOUR
March 4th, 2010 at 9:47 am
I still can’t get over how much are special teams unit makes.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Fargas has taken a paycut every time Al has asked him to.
I think Al is letting him go to give thunder & lightning more rushing attempts. thin out the herd, if u will
I don’t think it’s an issue of scholarships no longer existant. look at Hiram Eugene!
March 4th, 2010 at 9:49 am
ALL THIS RAIDER TALK IS MAKIN ME DEPPRESSED IM BOUT 2 START BOOZIN. MAKES ME 4GET HOW BAD OUR TEAM SUCKS
March 4th, 2010 at 9:49 am
HairyBush,
having Fargas on the team doesn’t bother me but he is not worth what he is owed.
just as having Warren on the team doesn’t bother me. And just as he is not worth what he is owed.
the simple economics is that the Raiders cannot overpay everybody.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Cardinals are asking a 3rd rounder for Bolden. Make the move Uncle AL!!
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I’d take Boldin for a 3rd rounder and give him $10 million per year. why not?
Look at what we’re paying for Walker & Heyward-Bey!
not to mention Russell, McFadden, Kelly, Seymour, Nnamdi and the ST guys …
March 4th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Huggy Bear runs hard, but he has trouble finding the end zone.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Hmmm……wouldn’t mind a drink right now.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Mc, I was getting frustrated when all they (WEEI)kept doing was talking junk about the semour deal. The reality is the Raiders haven’t been drafting well and we get a guy with superbowl/pro bowl experience to hopefully rub off on some of the other guys.What’s wrong with that? The truth is Bellichek got real arrogant this off season and really dismantled his defense. I’m sure he’s so cocky he figured it was his brilliant scheming, What a loser. I loved when they lost to Indy last year because of foolish coaching.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:52 am
THE RAAAAAIDERS SHOULD BE MOVED TO THE NEW USFL. MAYBE WE WOULD WIN SOME GAMES.DOUBT IT THOUGH
March 4th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Hmmm….wouldn’t mind leaving work early today.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:54 am
When you put it like that Rockstar, I have to agree!!
March 4th, 2010 at 9:55 am
OOOO YEA THAT 4TH DOWN CALL THAT WAS SWEET HAIRY BUSH.STILL GOTTA ADMIT THAT WASNT AS DUMB AS A DESIGNED JANIKOWSKI RUN ON 4TH DOWN.LOL OUR COACHING IS ELEMENTRY
March 4th, 2010 at 9:56 am
M- I’m not implying to pay him what he is owed, more along the lines of a special teamer. I do agree with the theory of thinning the herd. How about Fargas as running back coach. Then we get his attitude but not his less than spectacular play?
March 4th, 2010 at 9:56 am
McFadden is 22-years-old. He averaged 3.9 YPC with 5 TDs and 10.3 yards per catch over the last two seasons.
Fargas is 30-years-old. He averaged 3.9 YPC with 4 TDs and 6.5 yards per catch the last two seasons.
Fargas also had 347 rushing attempts over that time to McFadden’s 217 — yet 1 fewer TD.
Someone again explain to me why Fargas is a better option than DMac?
March 4th, 2010 at 9:56 am
Good, get rid of Warren. I don’t mind having Fargas around as a backup but if he’s too expensive to keep, so be it.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:57 am
Elementry may be to high of praise!
March 4th, 2010 at 9:57 am
WTF DMAC YOU GET PAYED TO CHAT ABOUT THE RAIDERS?MUST B NICE .WHAT DOES YOUR BOSS THINK ABOUT THIS?YOU MUST BE GETTIN ALOT DONE RIGHT NOW ? LOL
March 4th, 2010 at 9:57 am
HAIRY LOL WELL SAID
March 4th, 2010 at 9:58 am
You know it!
March 4th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Someone again explain to me why Fargas is a better option than DMac?
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Fumbles and salary. Both way too high for McFelldown!
March 4th, 2010 at 9:58 am
CHRIS MCSKINNYS 10.3 YPC WAS WITH 3 CATCHES LOL.HES A BUM FACE IT
March 4th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Boldin brings a veteran presence and respectability. a true #1 WR. it takes pressure off of Schilens, Higgins, Murphy & Heyward-Bey. Even Zach Miller to be the go-to guy …
these youngster WR’s become more like complements and will have more opportunities for a mismatch lined up against lesser talent than the other team’s #1 CB
big difference facing Revis or Bailey vs. Donald Strickland or Andre Goodman, right?
March 4th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Chris, Dmac is the better option over Fargas. Few will dispute that except BSJ and a few others. I am open to having a free agent runningback come in and make a solid trio.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:59 am
WHAT DO YOU DO DMAC. I SHOULD LOOK INTO THIS OCCUPATION
March 4th, 2010 at 10:00 am
Actually McFadden has 50 catches over the last two seasons. Fargas has 27 over that same time period.
And, according to Yahoo! Sports, Fargas had a base salary in 2009 of more than $6 million while McFadden’s was in the $4 million range.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:00 am
CUT MORRISON DRAFT MCCLAIN
March 4th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Thomas Jones 1 year deal with incentives!
March 4th, 2010 at 10:01 am
I’m a elementary libarian in the mornings and an intervention specialist in the afternoons at the same school.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Boldin would look good in Silver and Black.
…….shame Russell wouldn’t get the ball anywhere near him.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Boldin, now there’s a signing that would make sense. Too bad this team has overspent on a bunch of losers (paging Javon Walker). Can they afford to sign him?
March 4th, 2010 at 10:03 am
I WAS J/K CHRIS BUT SERIOUSLY ALL JOKES ASIDE IF YOUVE EVER WATCHED A RAIDER GAME THERES NO WAY YOU CAN TELL ME MCTACKLE MYSELF IS BETTER THAN FARGAS. NAME 1 GOOD GAME DMAC HAD EXCEPT THE KC GAME
March 4th, 2010 at 10:03 am
lol…so true Neilb. Hopefully we’ll truly have an open competition at QB this year.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:03 am
uncapped year,they can afford it!
March 4th, 2010 at 10:03 am
DRUG INTERVENTION DMAC? LOL
March 4th, 2010 at 10:05 am
Mc, I think when it comes to the DMAC/Fargas conversation it is summed up with one word-upside
March 4th, 2010 at 10:05 am
It will never happen Big Banana.Russell will start the first game – Al will see to that.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:05 am
Hairy,
I think the draft is a better route to go for adding a 3rd RB. Not in Round 1, obviously. But a Toby Gerhart, LeGarrette Blount, Joe McKnight, Montario Hardesty, Ben Tate, Lonyae Miller or others in the mid-to-late rounds would be an excellent addition.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:05 am
Fargas is a RB. McFelldown is NOT. Cannot hit hard, elude tacklers, or hold onto the ball.
DMAC could be a receiver though. Hopefully for some other team.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:05 am
No. Lmao. Reading and comprehension.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Hey Cris,
What do you think of Stef Johnson in the later rounds?
March 4th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Chris,
You also conveniently picked the last two years to compare DMAC and Fargas. DMAC ran for 3.4 YPC last year. Fargas was 4.5 in 2007, for over 1K yards.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:08 am
Chris, I think my only concern would be the fact we already have so much youth on the team. I would like to see a little more of a veteran/youngster medley
ecspecially people like G.Ellis who are vocal locker room leaders. (Yes I understand Mr.Davis does not believe in chemistry etc)
March 4th, 2010 at 10:08 am
LOL THOUGHT U WOULD FIND THAT FUNNY. I WAS HOPIN I DIDNT OFFEND YOU
March 4th, 2010 at 10:08 am
Reading and comprehension
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trade the walrus for a QB that can read a defense and comprehend the playbook!
March 4th, 2010 at 10:09 am
Mcskinnylegs….
just opened a cold one.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:09 am
You gotta find the end zone. Toughness don’t mean schit, if your not putting points on the board.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:10 am
cheers.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Time for JFar to start preparing for his coaching career. It certainly sounds as though his running days with the S&B are over.
He reminds me of and in some sense was the reincarnation of #40 Pete Banazak – an old school hard charging Raider back in the day.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Fargas is a RB. McFelldown is NOT. Cannot hit hard, elude tacklers, or hold onto the ball.
DMAC could be a receiver though. Hopefully for some other team.
LOL NICE 1 BO
March 4th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Would the Cards take Russell for Boldin ?
March 4th, 2010 at 10:11 am
I’m not offended it. I never take this blog personal. It’s all good.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:11 am
shoot.
trade the walrus for a QB that can read and comprehend the menu at Wendys …
March 4th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Dmac, to bad were lacking in both toughness and touchdowns as a team! (I wish it was just Fargas/Dmac that were are problems)
March 4th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Can’t believe I typed that without laughing!
March 4th, 2010 at 10:12 am
trade the walrus for a QB that can read a defense and comprehend the playbook!
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So true. What was he, at 80% of the playbook last year? They should have stuck with the 40% from the year before.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:12 am
ATTA BOY NEILB I WAS J/K BUT AM DEFINETLY KICKIN 1 BACK NOW OLD LADY IS NOT GONNA LIKE THIS WHEN SHE GETS HOME ILL B WASTED
March 4th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Would the Cards take Russell for Boldin ?
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I don’t think the Cards would take J.Russell for Brian St. Pierre!
March 4th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Neilb, that sounds like a wonderful dream
March 4th, 2010 at 10:13 am
McSkinny,
The problem is McFadden never gets into a flow in the running game. He averaged just 7 carries per game over the second half of the season. He only had more than 12 carries in any game once all season. What’s he supposed to do with that?
You know Cable has never given McFadden 20 carries in a game since he took over for Kiffin? The only time McFadden has had 20 more or carries in a game was that KC game his rookie year when Kiffin was still in charge. He had 21 carries that game and went for 164 yards and a TD. Since then he touches the ball about 2 times per quarter.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:14 am
OK DMAC I JUST DIDNT WANNA COME OFF LIKE A DOUCHE I WAS J/K I RESPECY WHAT U DO FOR THE KIDS.GOD KNOWS I WOULDNT DO IT DAMN KIDS
March 4th, 2010 at 10:14 am
RESPECT**
March 4th, 2010 at 10:14 am
No, but they’ll probably take Nick Miller in week 16 for Boldin.
LMAO
March 4th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Chris, I agree as a former RB myself I think you need the rock and need to get into a rythem.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Don’t do it Mcskinnylegs!It’s nearly half 6 over here.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Maybe AD is looking at Jahvid Best. I believe he was fairly fast in the 40 and is a real RB between the tackles unlike DMac.
Dmac should just be moved permanently to Slot WR. He would excel at that position.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Banaszak was used primarily to score TDs. Fargas, well, not so much. lol
Fargas production, however, does not excuse the odious play from DMAC. A #4 pick!
March 4th, 2010 at 10:16 am
DMAC luv the kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and his RRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 4th, 2010 at 10:16 am
CHRIS I SAID DONT BRING UP THE KC GAME AND WHAT DO YOU DO LIKE ANY MCAFADDEN FAN YOU BRING UP THE KC GAME HE SUCKS FACE IT LOL
March 4th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Once upon a time, when crazy Al still had his faculties, he used to love straight ahead, blue collar runners like Fargas: Pete Banaszak, Mark Van Eeghan, Marv Hubbard, Hewritt Dixon. These guys play with heart and character, exactly what’s been missing with this team since Gannon left.
I think you Fargas bashers are severly misguided. At worse, he’s a fantastic special team player.
Fuku, Al.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Chris in NY Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 10:13 am
McSkinny,
The problem is McFadden never gets into a flow in the running game.
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How do you “get into the flow” when you cough up the ball every few carries?!?! No sane coach would keep feeding a disgrace like DMAC.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:17 am
BSJ, Did DMAC kill your firstborn?
March 4th, 2010 at 10:18 am
keep Fargas as Kelly Skipper’s asst RB Coach and DMAC’s babysitter?
March 4th, 2010 at 10:18 am
ITS 1 O CLOCK OVER HERE ON THE EAST COAST GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.”BEER IS PROOF GOD WANTED US TO BE HAPPY” QUOTE FROM THE GREAT BEN FRANKLIN
March 4th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Mcskinny, I have that magnet on my fridge!
March 4th, 2010 at 10:19 am
I AM CAPTAIN BOOOOOOOOZE!!!!!!!!!
March 4th, 2010 at 10:20 am
THATS MY QUOTE
March 4th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Mcskinnylegs…
I forgot the time listed is west coast – sorry – in that case…..cheers!
March 4th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Even if Seymour moves inside we need a nose tackle.
Having a full rotation on the line is important.
The Colt and Saints run full rotations.
As well as the Giants and Ravens etc.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Chris,
You also conveniently picked the last two years to compare DMAC and Fargas. DMAC ran for 3.4 YPC last year. Fargas was 4.5 in 2007, for over 1K yards.
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Because DMac has only been in the league for 2 years so I’m comparing them over the course of that time when they’re working with the same coaches, teammates, opponents, etc. Plus DMac has had fewer carries over 2 seasons than a No. 1 back typically gets in a single season, so I opted for the larger sample.
By the way, I’m not saying DMac has shown he’s great or anything. He’s had injury, fumble and footing issues. But he’s still got tremendous upside.
I think he’s been ridiculously misused by Cable (getting only a handful of carries per game and most of them coming between the tackles). I’m eager to see what a new playcaller and OC with clout — Hue Jackson — can do with McFadden. If he stinks this year then it’s time to start looking past him. Right now I’d argue he’s never had a real shot to succeed and part of the reason for that is the coach’s love of Fargas and constantly running Fargas when Bush and McFadden were the better options all along.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:22 am
“Beer – the cause of and answer to all of life’s problems”
Homer Simpson.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:22 am
I would rather see Seymour stay on the outside and move inside once in a while for mismatches.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:26 am
I would rather see Seymour stay on the outside and move inside once in a while for mismatches.
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me too, like obvious passing downs
Shaughnessy/Kelly/Seymour/Ellis on 3rd & long with Scott coming off the edge from WLB = SACK!
March 4th, 2010 at 10:27 am
I’m always posting the “trade Dmac for” jokes,but I agree to some point with Chris.
I don’t think he’s being misused…..I just think they havn’t got any idea how to use him.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:27 am
Man this is frustrating. We make one good move and three bad ones. I think Ellis should be the starter, but should be relieved by Shaughnessy. We need to draft a linebacker and nose tackle and offensive tackle and Guard. That’s my first three to four rounds in any order.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:27 am
THAT WAS THE WAY HE WAS USED BEST IN NEW ENLAND HAIRY
March 4th, 2010 at 10:27 am
I see double didget sacks for T scott this year!
March 4th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Anyone remember the game last year when Seymour had like 3 personal fouls in a row? I guess it was stupid but at the same time I like seeing guys getting fired up like the Raiders of old. I liked the fact back in the day even if we lost or were losing a game we would kick you in the teeth and make you pay!
Murphy also has some”spunk”
March 4th, 2010 at 10:32 am
HB: watching Dick slam Ryan Clady to the ground by the back of his hair was dirty …
I LIKED IT!
March 4th, 2010 at 10:34 am
Things to do,time to go.
Have a great Thursday everyone.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:34 am
Hopefully this year we will see some more inspired play ala Gradkowski.
Rally the troops!
March 4th, 2010 at 10:36 am
I hope Dick slams Phillip Rivers like that this year!
March 4th, 2010 at 10:36 am
you too Neil. later pal
March 4th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Bring Andre “dirty waters” out of retirement
Is he still alive?
March 4th, 2010 at 10:42 am
I hope Dick slams Phillip Rivers like that this year!
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if Phil starts running his mouth I can see that happening, easily.
how did we dominate both sides of SD’s line in Week 1 last year?
Morris, Carlisle, Green, Kelly & Warren were starting on those lines!
these clowns were playing inspired, prepared football.
how do we get back to that ???
March 4th, 2010 at 10:46 am
I can’t tell you how friggin excited I was last year watching that game. I swear when they called back that Murphy touchdown it deflated me (and the Raiders) beyond belief. I said to my friend that day, the tone for the season has been set.
If we could somehow maintain that level of energy for at least 10-12 games this season, I would be one happy man.
Is 2003 the last time we won an opener?
March 4th, 2010 at 10:52 am
HB: Week 1 was an important lesson to learn
prevent defense only prevents you from winning.
prevent defense in the 4th quarter to protect a small lead allowed SD to march right down the field & punch it in. Rob Ryan was famous for this.
We never saw it again all season, but it cost us our 1st win against Sandy Eggo in 7 years!
March 4th, 2010 at 10:55 am
the Murphy TD was especially bad because it cost us 4 points, settling for a FG and we ended up losing that game by 4!
However, like I said, Marshall & Co had a chance to close it out and failed to do so against the Dolts banged up line. We should have played aggressive and forced a 3 & out. game over
March 4th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Hopefully we will see very little or even better no prevent this year.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:01 am
where is S&B Defense?
as expected, the Bucs & Texans tendered MLB’s Ruud & Ryans at the highest possible tenders. 1st & 3rd paying them $3.2 million this year (like Routt)
worth it to give up a 1st & 3rd for a vet MLB who’ll want at least $10 million per season in a long term deal?
then you’d better hope Houston or Cody are free in Round 2!
and hope Cable can patch up the RG & RT needs in rounds 3 & 4. we know he’d strike out in free agency …
March 4th, 2010 at 11:04 am
the alternative (if we want a vet MLB) would be to enter a bidding war for Karlos Dansby or settle for a player like Antonio Pierce, Gary Brackett or Larry Foote, who may not even be an improvement over Kirk Morrison!
March 4th, 2010 at 11:04 am
SteveAlford21 Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 8:56 am
RRs,
Just a note to show how stats can be misleading:
Huff, Eugene, Brown, Routt, and Mitchell didn’t have ANY tackles for loss this past season… BUT… how many times did we blitz them? Discounting Brown at LB, the rest are safeties. A safety will NOT have a tackle for loss unless he blitzes and is at or near the LOS when the ball is snapped. The fact that we send a player from the secondary on a blitz roughly once a season would be a good reason that they combine for 0 tackles for loss.
As Mark Twain said:
“There are three kinds of lies… lies, damned lies, and statistics.”
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Have to question the validity of the stats unless sacks don’t count as tackles for a loss.
Routt had at least one sack last year in the red zone that stopped a potential TD drive.
It was his lone bright spot. The play before he got burned.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:10 am
This uncapped year is confusing. If I was the Raiders Id trade in my entire draft to sign restricted free agents.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:10 am
ohioraider Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Once upon a time, when crazy Al still had his faculties, he used to love straight ahead, blue collar runners like Fargas: Pete Banaszak, Mark Van Eeghan, Marv Hubbard, Hewritt Dixon. These guys play with heart and character, exactly what’s been missing with this team since Gannon left.
I think you Fargas bashers are severly misguided. At worse, he’s a fantastic special team player.
Fuku, Al.
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None of the backs you mentioned have played since the 70’s. How can it be we haven’t had that since “Gannon left”?
Was he a RB?
Fargas was “ok” at chewing up yards between the 20’s.
IF he’s gone, which I severely doubt, at least we won’t have to watch him get bashed away from the goal line 3 times in a row anymore.
When in the HE-LL was the last time ANYONE saw Fargas make a special teams tackle?!
March 4th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Have to question the validity of the stats unless sacks don’t count as tackles for a loss.
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they don’t N21.
thats why Scott had 7 sacks and only 2.5 TFL
March 4th, 2010 at 11:11 am
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…Wake me around Christmas time when we’re 4-12…zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
March 4th, 2010 at 11:13 am
a 1st round pick for Marshall seems fair and we can probably sign him for less then what we would pay the #8 pick.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:13 am
When was the last time ANYONE saw Fargas make a special teams tackle?!
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not sure about coverage units, but I know he hasn’t returned any kicks since his rookie season (2003)
March 4th, 2010 at 11:14 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 10:55 am
the Murphy TD was especially bad because it cost us 4 points, settling for a FG and we ended up losing that game by 4!
However, like I said, Marshall & Co had a chance to close it out and failed to do so against the Dolts banged up line. We should have played aggressive and forced a 3 & out. game over
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Young players like Murphy will have to get used to refs DELIBERATELY trying to ukf the Raiders out of momentum or even points.
Thats what they do to us.
Time and time again.
Some flags we deserve, others clearly not.
Conspiracy?
BS, plain demonstrable FACT when it happens time and time and time and time again, year after year after year after year…
THIS team needs to learn to use it as fuel like Raider teams of yore.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:14 am
tay: teams would still have the chance to match our contract offer …
March 4th, 2010 at 11:15 am
# HairyBush Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Anyone remember the game last year when Seymour had like 3 personal fouls in a row? I guess it was stupid but at the same time I like seeing guys getting fired up like the Raiders of old. I liked the fact back in the day even if we lost or were losing a game we would kick you in the teeth and make you pay!
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I remember Seymour acting like a out of control punk, who cost the team.
His penalties were stupid, and hurt, didn’t help.
Pulling hair for a 15 yd penalty? And bragging about it?
And the 3 penalties helped Cleveland kick the Raiders ass. The team didn’t rally, didn’t step up, and certainly didn’t get fired up. Cleveland won 23-9….NINE PTS IS ALL THE RAIDERS GOT..along with 40,000 in fines, and the embarrassment of seeing Cleveland kick ass.
You can act all that when you have the horses to offset it.
When you get stupid penalties, with one of the worst offenses in the league, that can’t offset it?
Ignorant.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:15 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Have to question the validity of the stats unless sacks don’t count as tackles for a loss.
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they don’t N21.
thats why Scott had 7 sacks and only 2.5 TFL
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Touche’
March 4th, 2010 at 11:19 am
Richochet Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:15 am
# HairyBush Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Anyone remember the game last year when Seymour had like 3 personal fouls in a row? I guess it was stupid but at the same time I like seeing guys getting fired up like the Raiders of old. I liked the fact back in the day even if we lost or were losing a game we would kick you in the teeth and make you pay!
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I remember Seymour acting like a out of control punk, who cost the team.
His penalties were stupid, and hurt, didn’t help.
Pulling hair for a 15 yd penalty? And bragging about it?
And the 3 penalties helped Cleveland kick the Raiders ass. The team didn’t rally, didn’t step up, and certainly didn’t get fired up. Cleveland won 23-9….NINE PTS IS ALL THE RAIDERS GOT..along with 40,000 in fines, and the embarrassment of seeing Cleveland kick ass.
You can act all that when you have the horses to offset it.
When you get stupid penalties, with one of the worst offenses in the league, that can’t offset it?
Ignorant.
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Seymour’s hair pulling incident happened against DENVERS Ryan Clady.
Clady tried to get physical with Seymour who grabbed his puzz-ay man locks and held the punks head between his knees so the youngster wouldn’t hurt himself.
A variation of the ole hockey jersey over the head routine.
It wasn’t some girl fight, Clady got punked.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:19 am
You can act all that when you have the horses to offset it.
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true. what did the Raiders have to boast about last year?
no longer being saddled with a bust at QB?
March 4th, 2010 at 11:19 am
# Nnamdi21 Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:14 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 10:55 am
the Murphy TD was especially bad because it cost us 4 points, settling for a FG and we ended up losing that game by 4!
However, like I said, Marshall & Co had a chance to close it out and failed to do so against the Dolts banged up line. We should have played aggressive and forced a 3 & out. game over
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Young players like Murphy will have to get used to refs DELIBERATELY trying to ukf the Raiders out of momentum or even points.
Thats what they do to us.
Time and time again.
Some flags we deserve, others clearly not.
Conspiracy?
BS, plain demonstrable FACT when it happens time and time and time and time again, year after year after year after year…
THIS team needs to learn to use it as fuel like Raider teams of yore.
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Oh stop, you sniveling tool.
“wahhhhh…the refs gave us a penalty….wahhhhhh”
EVERY team gets penalties. Fans that whine about THEM GETTING THEM, as if they’re the ONLY team that gets bogus calls, or missed calls means you live for excuses.
EVERY REF IS GRADED FOR EVERY GAME..every single game.
EVERY team that thinks they were screwed turns in a complaint, and that ref’s calls are graded again. When a ref’s report card, per se, is below the set guidelines, they are in a position to lose their job.
IGNORANT TO STATE “OMG..THEY HATE US…THEY PICK ON US”..
Worms run that..over and over.
Oh..wait…who was this??
“Cable IS SCREWING OVER RUSSELL..THAT PUNK. He set up russell to look bad..it’s not JR’s fault..it’s CABLE’S!!!”
Oh..right..that was YOU.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:21 am
There’s Richochet,
Jumping out of the bushes to call people names.
Dude, what is your problem????
March 4th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Bruce Almighty = The next Rich Gannon (only more liked by his teammates).
March 4th, 2010 at 11:23 am
# Nnamdi21 Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:19 am
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Seymour’s hair pulling incident happened against DENVERS Ryan Clady.
Clady tried to get physical with Seymour who grabbed his puzz-ay man locks and held the punks head between his knees so the youngster wouldn’t hurt himself.
A variation of the ole hockey jersey over the head routine.
It wasn’t some girl fight, Clady got punked.
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Bull****.
Was the classic punk ass move..he grabbed his hair FROM BEHIND..AFTER THE PLAY WAS OVER.
Got fined for it.
Seymour also jammed his fingers in his facemask, trying to get to his eyes.
Seymour’s a punk, and a coward for that crap.
AND IT COST THE TEAM.
Only YOU would consider yanking someone’s hair from behind as “getting punked”.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Now, now… I think everyone should settle down before someone gets his little feelins hurt and the law gets involved.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:24 am
The announcer is WRONG when he says “Aw right there…” Seymour CLEARLY has jersey with the intial grab, then when Clady tries to get up and be a dik, Seymour keeps him at bay with the hair.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-N-COI6hhc
Dirty? Probably, the chop blocks during double teams he sustained that day? Illegal too…
March 4th, 2010 at 11:25 am
# KoolKell Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:21 am
There’s Richochet,
Jumping out of the bushes to call people names.
Dude, what is your problem????
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LOL…there’s ole sensitive, unemployed, bringing in no money, sit on his ass all day as the wife works, racist scumbag Kelli.
I told you…you’ll just have to get over the fact I slammed your weak sorry website.
I know..I know..it stings. I see many have taken to copying my exact comments against you…more “stinging”. Oh well, lol…you brought attention to it. I simply called you on it.
You’ll get over it, whining little boy.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:25 am
SteveAlford21 Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Now, now… I think everyone should settle down before someone gets his little feelins hurt and the law gets involved.
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Wheres Hanson?! I’ll boot his skinny punk azz and then pull his hair!
March 4th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Richochet, That game was embarrasing no doubt. My point was meant on a larger scale, the big picture if you will. The truth is the Raiders need some life in them, not just guys going through the motions and collecting a paycheck. I realise one of your goals is to insult people and get them fired up, I am a rational person who tries to see both sides. Do I want to see the Raiders Lose to a lousy team? Do I want us to look like we have no disipline? Do I want us to rack up fines just for the heck of it? Obviously the answer is no. If you think the Raiders are fine the way they are and don’t need some of that old swagger back, I guess I really don’t know what to tell you. I stopped drinking the kool aid a couple years ago. It hurts.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Rich Gannon was a 4th rounder. 2 inches taller and 10 lbs lighter than Bruce Gradkowski. Bruce was a 6th rounder. Rich from Philly. Bruce from Pittsburgh
Raiders were Gannon’s 5th team. Gradkowski’s 4th
March 4th, 2010 at 11:27 am
200. Lets all just ignore the raving rants of Bishochet. He’s obviously got a screw loose. Being so angry and ugly is his reward.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Hey Kelli..hows..the uh…real estate thang going?
Sell anything lately?
Considering the ONLY property you have listed has been on the blocks for over 6 weeks, I would venture to say no.
I’ll betcha that 1.5% should come in handy..IF it ever sells
March 4th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Kell,
creepy how Bishochet is cyber stalking you!
March 4th, 2010 at 11:31 am
# Nnamdi21 Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:27 am
200. Lets all just ignore the raving rants of Bishochet. He’s obviously got a screw loose. Being so angry and ugly is his reward.
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lol…wave that white flag, little man…like you do so well.
Your lot in life is to meekly accept what I give you.
You know no other way.
You’re a flea, who’s been slapped down so many times you just don’t bother getting up any more..do ya?
Now..back to the shadows..where you consider gouging eyes, and pulling hair as “manly”.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:31 am
Rich Gannon was a great QB for us, but he looked like a fruitcake in Minny!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/17/Rich.Gannon.jpg
March 4th, 2010 at 11:31 am
# Nnamdi21 Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Kell,
creepy how Bishochet is cyber stalking you!
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YOU MORON…go look, dumbass.
I posted…THEN HE SIGNED ON TO POST TO ME.
Now..take your time..and figure it out..who’s stalking who, mental midget?
March 4th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Nnamdi
The dude just hangs around here to put people down. Not here to discuss football.
That tells me he’s not very happy with himself.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Actually, lol…according to Kelli…EVERYONE IS STALKING HIM.
In other words, he’s an easy target, and everytime the whole slew of posters slap him down, his only retort is “Why does everyone care?”
Probably because you open mouth, and we enjoy inserting foot
March 4th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Look at all the venom from this guy.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:33 am
pro football’s salary cap ends tomorrow.
any thoughts?
March 4th, 2010 at 11:34 am
# KoolKell Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Nnamdi
The dude just hangs around here to put people down. Not here to discuss football.
That tells me he’s not very happy with himself.
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lol…dude..you can’t spell football, much less discuss it.
Challenge..AGAIN..my guarantee is I’ll torch your sorryass on anything regarding the Raiders.
You up for it, old man?
What??
Now you’re going to make some lame ass excuse?
Of course you will. You haven’t a clue on anything that you can’t post a stat on…stat reporting, and ONLY STAT REPORTING IS FOR LOSERS.
The challenge?
Yeah, lol….right…tuck tail, old man.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:38 am
I’m sorry, Kelli..I missed your answer to the following:
Hey Kelli..hows..the uh…real estate thang going?
Sell anything lately?
Considering the ONLY property you have listed has been on the blocks for over 6 weeks, I would venture to say no.
I’ll betcha that 1.5% should come in handy..IF it ever sells
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I stop in and out..YOU LIVE HERE.
allllll….dayyyyy….loooonnnng….
Whew..thank god you’re a kept man…right, Kelli?
So…let me guess..you do the laundry…vacuum…while wifey works all day…and have dinner waiting for her…right?
LMAO that right now you’re cringing..knowing I’m dead on.
LOSER
March 4th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Kelli?
the challenge? Same challenge I gave to your boytoy Beech..he also tucked tail.
Gosh..what are the chances you’ll do the same?
March 4th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Where’s Fargas going ? He’s a fav of Cable and I doubt he goes elsewhere.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:42 am
# HairyBush Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Richochet, That game was embarrasing no doubt. My point was meant on a larger scale, the big picture if you will. The truth is the Raiders need some life in them, not just guys going through the motions and collecting a paycheck. I realise one of your goals is to insult people and get them fired up, I am a rational person who tries to see both sides. Do I want to see the Raiders Lose to a lousy team? Do I want us to look like we have no disipline? Do I want us to rack up fines just for the heck of it? Obviously the answer is no. If you think the Raiders are fine the way they are and don’t need some of that old swagger back, I guess I really don’t know what to tell you. I stopped drinking the kool aid a couple years ago. It hurts.
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I agree..but..long gone are the days the NFL allows teams to play the bully bit, and get away with it, right?
Now? The fine ya..big time.
Suspend players..eject them…and slap on hefty penalties that cost the team.
What I’m saying is hard nosed football is what I would like back..penalties or not. Solid play that wins games.
Look at the last 10 SB winners?
Solid hard playing teams, who don’t/didn’t shoot themselves in the foot with stupid penalties.
My point is cheap shots are just that..cheap shots.
lay someone out legally? Vicious hit? Pancake someone?
And win the game?
Doesn’t get much better than that..
March 4th, 2010 at 11:43 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:33 am
pro football’s salary cap ends tomorrow.
any thoughts?
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I wish Upshaw was around to comment.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:45 am
KoolKell Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Nnamdi
The dude just hangs around here to put people down. Not here to discuss football.
That tells me he’s not very happy with himself.
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This is exactly what you do, assclown. Just substitute “Al Davis” for “people”
March 4th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Bo Chimp
Al Davis is General Manager of the Raiders. This is a Raider blog.
Asswipe.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:47 am
# KoolKell Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:21 am
There’s Richochet,
Jumping out of the bushes to call people names.
Dude, what is your problem????
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I have a question, Stalker.
I posted my first comment of the day at 11:16.
Less than 5 minutes later, there you are signing on just to whine to me?
Dude…you obsess much? lol…I mean…all I do is post, and there you and Oakglen are, like little clinging worms?
Just curious on why you wait for me..is all.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:48 am
Bo Chimp
Al Davis is General Manager of the Raiders. The Raiders are 29-83. This is a Raider blog.
Asswipe.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:49 am
sup my fellow mcfadden hater bo sclem u still here huh?
March 4th, 2010 at 11:49 am
I’m sorry, Kelli…the challenge?
What?
YOU RAN THE ‘NOT HERE TO DISCUSS RAIDERS” because I choose to call out the meek, weak, and spineless (yeah, sorry, but you, Oakglen, MR, nnamdi..all pretty much void of spine..sorry dude, lol)so…??
Let’s see if you know any damn thing about the Raiders…I’LL LET YOU PICK THE TOPIC.
Well??
March 4th, 2010 at 11:50 am
I beleive “hard nosed” football and the occasional “remember me” hit or comment are one in the same. I am not implying it is all about cheap shots. More so about energy/passion and laying it all out there to get the win at the end of the day. The NFL is more about $$ now a days as opposed to just pure enjoyment of the sport. I started liking the Raiders because of there attitude and persona, I’m just looking to get some of that back.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:50 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Rich Gannon was a 4th rounder. 2 inches taller and 10 lbs lighter than Bruce Gradkowski. Bruce was a 6th rounder. Rich from Philly. Bruce from Pittsburgh
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Lol! This is your basis for comparing Gannon and Grads RRS?? I’ve heard it all now. What’s next? They both love the color green?? A better one would be Donald Hollas. But Hollas at least won 3 or 4 games in a row and got us to 6-2. Grads deserves no comparisons. And am I the only one that finds it strange that he got a 2nd-round tender when he’s supposedly the front runner to start here next year?
March 4th, 2010 at 11:51 am
careful Kelly. your boy MR will report you to the authorities for using that kind of language on the blog … not acceptable
March 4th, 2010 at 11:52 am
damn u still here 2 huh bush? i love this blog
March 4th, 2010 at 11:53 am
trade the walrus for Donald Hollas!
March 4th, 2010 at 11:53 am
KoolKell Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Bo Chimp
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Again with the racism.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:53 am
wish we had med shoppes on the east coast like u guys got in cali
March 4th, 2010 at 11:54 am
I don’t know what to say, I don’t think I would tender Ricky Brown, I doubt he is worth a roster spot, I would cut him and try resign him for special teams only and backup SLB not MLB, also Eugene is not worth a second round tender even though he would get signed by another team, I would tender him a third rounder, Routt is worth a first if AL wants to keep him, why first and third no idea unless AL knew a team would offer a first for him. This draft is filled with so many talents, I would tender most of the guys a third and fourth so that we can get many more picks and pay them less.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:54 am
I’m a Raideraholic
March 4th, 2010 at 11:54 am
mcskinnnylegs Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:49 am
sup my fellow mcfadden hater bo sclem u still here huh?
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Wherever there is DMAC bashing, you will find me.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:54 am
# HairyBush Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:50 am
I beleive “hard nosed” football and the occasional “remember me” hit or comment are one in the same. I am not implying it is all about cheap shots. More so about energy/passion and laying it all out there to get the win at the end of the day. The NFL is more about $$ now a days as opposed to just pure enjoyment of the sport. I started liking the Raiders because of there attitude and persona, I’m just looking to get some of that back.
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No doubt there is a time and place where a play that gets a penalty is worth it…a vicious hit across the middle..that while costing a penalty, has receivers short arming balls.
Another thing is going to the edge to where you get the other player to lose it, costing that team..which players like Romo used to do all the time.
You know what they say..winning cures all ills.
Being up by a couple of td’s? And a “tacky play’?? lol..all for it.
Down by a score, and team driving down the field?
You get my drift..no doubt.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:55 am
trade russell for an eighth of schwagg
March 4th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Bo Chimp
You’re a lying piece of shyt.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Bruce Almighty = The next Rich Gannon (only more liked by his teammates).
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Chris in NY made that comment (above) Debo. He made the comparison, I just threw a few fun facts in the mix. Why do try to debate with me every day?
you didn’t say jack to Chris!
March 4th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Ahahaha! What joy, I log on only to find my little minion-in-training Ricopet begging again for my acceptance and attention!
Not so fast, little guy – remember, you have many more hoops to jump through before I allow you reach full minion status! Hell yeah!
Oh and I’m still waiting – but not expecting – you to someday use your little brain to think up a football topic you’d like to be schooled in.
But after giving you 3 – count ‘em 3! – chances to come up with something, you were so paralyzed by fear you decided to hide in your cubicle. Poor little poodle … Must’ve been scary, huh?!
Can’t wait for more of the same, little dude!
Hey Krappy, any final word on the big concert this weekend? C’mon, you old goat, let’s have the final decision!
March 4th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Again with the racism.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:58 am
i wanna know wheres the love natiion? dakotas not here so y all the arguing lol does dakota still come here.kids a douche
March 4th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Kelly: why do you hate America?
March 4th, 2010 at 11:59 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:53 am
KoolKell Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Bo Chimp
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Again with the racism.
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Kelli has perfected the “excuse fest” on why he’s “held down”..”held back”..
thankfully the bread winner in the family doesn’t know what he does all day.
I have a feeling this is the nightly discussion:
Wifey: “well, honey, any luck today?”
Kelli: “no..but I’m dog tired from all that canvassing. Passed out 300 business cards, knocked on 400 doors, made 125 phone calls..but no one wants to sell or buy..just so strange..just got home before you did. so, how was your day at work?”
March 4th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
does dakota still come here
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McSkinny: Dakota is a proud father now. has less time to spend on the blog.
also diagnosed with high blood pressure. probably because Al Davis retained Tom Cable!
March 4th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
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March 4th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
thanx 4 the update rockstar.congrats 2 him.I still think hes a douche high or low blood pressure
March 4th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
RR
Did Dakota’s wife have the kid already?
March 4th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Kelly: why do you hate America?
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Podunker
I actually served my county, unlike fake poseurs like you.
March 4th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
# Senior Beeecham Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Oh and I’m still waiting – but not expecting – you to someday use your little brain to think up a football topic you’d like to be schooled in.
But after giving you 3 – count ‘em 3! – chances to come up with something, you were so paralyzed by fear you decided to hide in your cubicle. Poor little poodle … Must’ve been scary, huh?!
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Ah…the “feigning ignorance/confusion” reply.
The offer was for YOU to broach a topic..so hey..no problem.
Al…:) let’s discuss Al for starters, peanut.
I think it’s scandalous on what Al did to the fans both when he came back to Alameda, on the signing day, as well as everything he did in 2002, both during Super bowl week, and following it.
How do you view all of what happened?
Oh..then we can discuss how Al drove off John Madden, and how their final year together went, including how the players felt about it.
Oh..and what the hell..Al and the brigade of head coaches.
What do you feel about all of Al’s butting in, what he’s done during practices, the over ruling calls he’s made to the different coaches?
We’ll just start with that, peanut.
March 4th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
how many of you agree on this?If any 1 of us had jerrys job there wouldnt be 6000 comments before an update.hes like the randy moss of reporters.overpaid, overrated, and works when HE wants 2
March 4th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
GIVE ME MORE JEEEEERRRRRRYYYY!!!!!
March 4th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Mcskinnnylegs Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
how many of you agree on this?If any 1 of us had jerrys job there wouldnt be 6000 comments before an update.hes like the randy moss of reporters.overpaid, overrated, and works when HE wants 2
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It’s the Off-Season.
March 4th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
JERRY SPRINGER SHOULD BE A RAIDER REAPOTER.HED BE A PERFECT FIT FOR THIS CIRCUIS
March 4th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Kelli?
Love to discuss that picture of your wife, on vacation, probably off to the side of Mt. Diablo, where you stated she’s ’surveying’ your NEW SITE IN SWITZERLAND.
Can you maybe..uh…delve into the “surveying” part?
Looks like she’s just standing, your purse in her hand, staring blankly.
Any chance that’s a bold faced lie, kelli?
Just curious..because it appears you are all about false impressions, and bold faced lies.
March 4th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
NO SUCH THING AS OFF SEASON
March 4th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
# mcskinnnylegs Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
how many of you agree on this?If any 1 of us had jerrys job there wouldnt be 6000 comments before an update.hes like the randy moss of reporters.overpaid, overrated, and works when HE wants 2
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You do KNOW that he works for the newspaper, right?
That’s kind of a full time gig.
Just thought you might want to know.
March 4th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Well, Beech??
lol…you find anything?
March 4th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Richochet doesn’t believe my story, Check. Anything else?
March 4th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
I’ll help ya a little beech…
some players felt Al really screwed over Madden…
any idea what I’m talking about?
Oh..and some things happened during the SB week that really…really PO’ed a lot of people…both during and after…any idea what I’m talking about?
head coaches? anything? hell…that’s easy stuff for ya..even your pathetic googling ass can find something on that…right, peanut?
March 4th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 4th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Richochet doesn’t believe my story, Check. Anything else?
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NO BODY BELIEVES YOUR STORY…see, clown, you commented to MOST HERE that MOST HERE are below you, that they ALL HAVE NOT DONE ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THE THINGS IN LIFE YOU’VE DONE.
Those are YOUR words.
I simply proved you’re a lying ass dog.
As YOUR PROOF, you requested posters to go READ YOUR WEB SITE (not YOURS, it’s the brokers web site) where you posted that drivel..that is sad in and of itself.
You sprouted off, acting all that, and I called you on it..like so many others did.
I’ll say it again…you’re a loser.
NO ONE WHO’S NOT A LOSER WOULD POST THAT IGNORANT CRAP..and certainly NEVER on a site that his prospective clients might read…that’s just plain unprofessional, and stupid, to boot.
March 4th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
KK AND RICHOCHET
Be kinder than necessary as everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.
March 4th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
GLAD I COULD HELP.KK U SAY U SERVED WHAT BRANCH?MY BRO IN AFGAN RIGHT NOW WITH THE ARMY.
March 4th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Wow, little Poodle, I’m impressed! You actually copped to failing to bring up any sort of topic in 3 attempts!
That shows growth, little dude, something that does score points in your attempts to become my full time minion apprentice!
First of all, just accept Al doesn’t consider the opinions of his fans in any of his business moves. So you’re wasting precious poodle energy getting worked up over him moving the team to whatever locale offers him the most attractive package. And he’ll stomp over anyone (except usually players) to get it.
You ever heard of Idi Amin? Dictatorship has its price and the fans pay to live in Al’s kingdom. Don’t spend your days getting worked up about his injustice, it’ll just turn you into a bigger, wackier basket case.
I’m not sure what you’re interested in learning about the coaching cavalcade that you should already know. No sane person could rationally explain how rapid turnover leads to team stability.
Personally, I was hoping the Kiffin experiment would work out, mainly because the possibility of Monte installing a modern defensive scheme and Kiffin’s keen eye for college talent.
Anyway, his meddling is mostly, if not all, to blame for the chaotic state of his team, its loss of financial value and league wide respect, not to mention his only way to buy free agents is by massive overspending.
Hope that helps and gives you something to think about. Maybe next time we can discuss your favorite Raider merchandise purchases through the ages!
March 4th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
McSkinnylegs,
As a former soldier myself, I believe I have the right to make this comment: You asked what Branch Kell served with, right? He was a Kentucky Regular during the War Between the States.
March 4th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
new post!
March 4th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
WTF DOES THAT MEAN?YOU’LL HAVE TO EXCUSE ME IM MILDLY RETARDED
March 4th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
RR U PUT TIME IN THIS ROOM HUH? I THINK U SHOULD HAVE JERRYS JOB LOL
March 4th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
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