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Position group analysis: Special teams

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, March 5th, 2010 at 11:02 am in Oakland Raiders.

Last in a series analyzing Raiders position groups with free agency underway and Oakland appearing to stay out of the first wave:

Key players: P Shane Lechler, PK Sebastian Janikowski, LS Jon Condo, KR Gary Russell,KR Jonathan Holland, KR Nick Miller, PR Johnnie Lee HIggins, LB Isaiah Ekejiuba, S Mike Mitchell, S Tyvon Branch, LB Jon Alston, LB Ricky Brown, S Hiram Eugene, TE Brandon Myers.

Review: Jekyll and Hyde. The best kicking game in the NFL and one of the worst at returning kicks. The Raiders put three special teams players in the Pro Bowl _ Lechler, Janikowski and Condo _ and ended up ranked only 13th in rankings compiled by Rick Gosselin of the Dallas Morning News. Gosselin’s rankings are a must-read for every special teams coach in the league and are considered the beat barometer of which team is excelling in that area.

On the plus side, Lechler’s 51.1 net punting average is an all-time record and Janikowski didn’t miss a kick inside 45 yards. If Condo has made a bad snap in three years, I don’t remember it. The Raiders forced a league-high five turnovers on special teams, including a strip-recovery against Cincinnati on a kick return that helped win the game.

On the other hand, the Raiders averaged 18.2 yards per kickoff return and their average starting point (22.8 yard line) was also the worst. Oakland averaged 4.9 yards per punt return, at least managing to be better than the 49ers, who were dead last at 4.4.

Contract status: Most teams pay lip service to the importance of special teams, the Raiders say it with their checkbook. Lechler and Janikowski are the highest paid players ever at their specialties. Ekejiuba is the highest paid pure special teams player who doesn’t return kicks. Jaws dropped throughout the league when the Raiders put a second-round tender on Condo. All told, they’ll put out more than $7.7 million in salary alone for those four players this year. (Earlier, I wrote $7.1, but shortchanged Lechler $600,000 in salary).

Oakland also put a second-round tender on Ricky Brown, a prominent special teamer. Alston and Russell are unrestricted free agents who weren’t given qualifying offers.

What’s next: The Raiders must have kept Miller around for a reason after a broken tibia prior to the opener ended up derailing his rookie season. It wasn’t until the season finale Miller went on injured reserve, while the Raiders struggled on kickoff returns with Holland and Russell. If Miller isn’t what they hoped, they need a new, fresh, fast face which could be provided by the draft.

It’s a big year for Higgins, who was a dangerous punt return specialist in 2009 but averaged only 5.2 with a long of 19 in 2010. Higgins was leveled in the opener by San Diego’s Eric Weddle and although he said he was fine, appeared to be tentative until very late in the season.

With explosive athletes such as Branch and Mitchell around, the Raiders should be consistently one of the best coverage teams but somehow gave up 25.7 yards per return _ 32nd in the league. That’s on special teams coach Jon Fassel and assistant Aaron Pelch, the latter who left the staff recently to become head coach at Millsaps College.

The Raiders were better in returns and coverage under Brian Schneider, who joined Pete Carroll with the Seattle Seahawks after a year at USC.

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178 Responses to “Position group analysis: Special teams”

  1. DMAC Says:

    yeah buddy

  2. RaiderRockstar Says:

    2nd?

  3. Raider O Says:

    SPOON!

  4. Richochet Says:

    # Silver-n-Smac Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 10:34 am

    DHB will gain at least 700 yards this season.

    If he doesn’t I guess I need to change my handle to “MaddenRaider’s Pet”?

    I think the Raiders will finally have a 1000 yard back again this year.

    If not, I supposed I’ll need to hide and change my handle to “No More Fargas’ Biotch”????

    Nah. . .sorry, Smac’s always gonna be Smac.
    ==============================
    DHB?
    700 yds?

    You mean Silver n Stupid, don’t you?

  5. Dakota Says:

    HairyBush Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 11:03 am
    Skills? or lack of skills? Rock wouldn’t be my 1st choice, although I hear he is a good guy in the locker room.
    +++++++++++++++++

    Career average 24 yards per kick return…beats the hell out of Gary Russell’s 18 yard average return.

  6. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    zz z z z z z z

  7. HairyBush Says:

    Dakota, I’m not saying he wouldn’t be an upgrade. I am aware of his stats. I think there may be a smarter option out there. Rock as a RB (albeit backup) is quite lackluster. Maybe we can draft a DB (which we will) who can also do something in th return game. Don’t forget Nick Miller will be back!

  8. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    For Raider O:

    http://www.homageclothing.com/store/t-shirts/say-yes-to-michigan

  9. Richochet Says:

    Onto more pressing issues…where’s JR?

    If someone is working out somewhere, what are the possibilities that NO ONE actually sees him…you know….working out?

    Isn’t he supposedly at some world famous spa/workout palace?

    I suspect he’s home.

    Maybe I should stop by later, and ask him how’s his training doing?

  10. KoolKell Says:

    Rakoshyt

    Still having problems with society? Poor thing.

  11. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Jerry is analyzing our special teams on the forst dy of free agency.

    NO PULITZER FOR YOU!

  12. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    first day…

  13. Dakota Says:

    Hmmm, since the Lions traded for Cory Willaims and Signed Vanden Douche does that mean they are not goin d-line with the #2 pick? If not d-line, then are they taking a tackle?

    That sucks for us…if we want a tackle.

  14. RaiderDebo Says:

    RaiderDebo Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 11:06 am
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 10:57 am
    Really? How do you come to that conclusion?

    ***

    Debo: if the Raiders were committed to Russell as the unquestionned starter they wouldn’t keep both QB’s who started ahead of him and outplayed him last season. They’d let Bruce & Charlie hit the market and just sign other backups like Charlie Batch & Joey Harrington to fill out the roster. they’d play for peanuts anyways …
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Whatever man. Whatever happens, this is a good trio. I’m not in the locker room, but the support these guys show for each other on the sidelines seems genuine. And both these guys proved to be capable as backups. I think they’re just going with the status quo here. And I’m sure Al recognizes that regardless of JaMaracus’ work ethic or lack thereof, he got thrown into a tough situation last year. He may not be going into the season as the unquestioned starter, but as long as he’s doing what they ask, I think he has the inside track.

  15. KoolKell Says:

    Reekofshyt

    Yeah, that’s your name. I like that one.

  16. Chris in NY Says:

    I think the special teams have been excellent the last couple of years — outside of the horrendous KR and PR in 2009. We never had a legitimate kick returner all season long. JLH looked like a completely different guy last year than he was in 2008. If JLH rebounds and Nick Miller explodes on to the scene we’ll have the best STs in the NFL.

  17. HairyBush Says:

    Wooooo! best special teams! Better than nothing I guess.

  18. Dakota Says:

    Hairy,

    Oh yeah, the legendary Nick Miller…always mentioned, never seen lol. Hey, if he can do it then great.

    We just gotta get our kick returner and punt returner back on track. It was one of our few strengths in 08…now JLH is a head case.

  19. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LMAO @ LA schools. For a Black History Month parade, teachers chose OJ, RuPaul and Dennis Rodman as black heroes…

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/03/principal-applogizes-for-black-history-month-celebration-that-included-oj-simpson-rodman-rupaul.html

  20. Raider O Says:

    LMAO Bo.

    LMAO even harder @ ” the state of Mich is a state blessed with the riches of unspoiled nature”

    Damn You Mich!! Liars!

  21. Chris in NY Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 11:10 am
    Jerry is analyzing our special teams on the forst dy of free agency.

    NO PULITZER FOR YOU!

    ——————–

    Yeah. This is a little odd. Must have been something canned that he’s just trying to get out of the way. He’ll probably have something soon enough on FA developments. Although, aside from the Antonio Bryant rumor, I haven’t really heard anything regarding the Raiders.

    Again, priorities:
    1. Troy Smith
    2. Jamal Williams
    3. Kevin Mawae
    4. Aaron Kampman

  22. RaiderResurrection Says:

    I see us trying to grab a KR/PR in the draft to compete with Higgins. If we can’t start with good field position then we can’t run the ball.

  23. Raider O Says:

    The OSU > ND > mich

    Vegas is an evil place!

  24. KoolKell Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 11:13 am
    LMAO @ LA schools. For a Black History Month parade, teachers chose OJ, RuPaul and Dennis Rodman as black heroes…

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/03/principal-applogizes-for-black-history-month-celebration-that-included-oj-simpson-rodman-rupaul.html
    —————————–
    Alright Boo Chimpbechler, your turn to call me a racist.

  25. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LMAO even harder @ ” the state of Mich is a state blessed with the riches of unspoiled nature”

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Whereas the state of Ohio is a state bleassed with spoiled talking monkeys.

  26. HairyBush Says:

    Dakota, I don’t know what to expect out of N.Miller exactly, but I really believe JLH’s career is basically over. I’ll go the record with that. Maybe Dmac will humor me and take a return here and there.

  27. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    KK make some sense old man. WTF does your comment have to do with that silly article?

  28. Raider O Says:

    Priorities are:

    1- Peppers
    2- Dansby
    3- A Kampman
    4- C
    5- J Williams

  29. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LMAO @ LA schools. For a Black History Month parade, teachers chose OJ, RuPaul and Dennis Rodman as black heroes…

    ***

    principal must be a liberal

    doesn’t surprise me.

  30. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    FREE DIRTY!

    http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_14515331

  31. KoolKell Says:

    Here you go Boo Chimpbechler Jackson6,

    In a letter addressed to parents and community members, a South Los Angeles elementary school principal apologized Thursday for “questionable decisions” about which prominent African Americans to highlight in a parade marking the culmination of Black History Month.

    Lorraine Abner’s letter did not name the individuals. But her apology came after three teachers at Wadsworth Avenue Elementary School were suspended while the Los Angeles Unified School District investigates allegations that they had their first-, second- and fourth-grade students carry pictures of O.J. Simpson, Dennis Rodman and RuPaul at last Friday’s event.

    “Unfortunately, questionable decisions were made in the selection of noteworthy African American role models,” the letter said. “As the principal, I offer my apology for these errors in judgment.”

    Abner could not be reached for comment Thursday.

  32. HairyBush Says:

    O-wake up your dreaming

  33. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raider O:

    YOU PEOPLE should know that NT’s Jamal Williams & Maake Kemoeatu are priorities #1 & #2

    get over it!

  34. Raider O Says:

    Bo,

    LMFAO @ “spoiled talking monkeys”

    Preppie mich fan is calling the hard working people of Ohio “Spoiled”.

    Not more spoiled than your unions that broke an industry!

  35. KoolKell Says:

    Raider O Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 11:22 am
    Bo,

    LMFAO @ “spoiled talking monkeys”
    ————————
    Boo is from Ohio, O.

  36. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Unions built the auto industry and provided consumers who could afford cars. White collar managers ruined GM, Ford and Chrysler by de-emphasizing innovation and quality.

  37. RaiderRockstar Says:

    speaking of chimps & monkeys … how are you doing today Kell?

  38. Raider O Says:

    You people are wasting my time!

    Damn you mich!

    Later Gents. (not you preppie lol), I enjoyed the chat.

  39. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    KK, I posted that article so of course I read it. Why post that excerpt? And what does it have to do with me calling you racist yesterday? You racist.

  40. KoolKell Says:

    Hey Peckerwood Podunker, how’s it going today?

  41. Raider O Says:

    KK,

    BOO is where you make it! lol

  42. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    principal must be a liberal

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    RRS, the pricipal was not involved in picking the black role models. Read the article. Or are you like most neocons who have no need for facts when forming outrageous opinions?

  43. KoolKell Says:

    Boo

    You’re a lying piece of shyt.

    You fuking peckerwood you were trying to make a statement with that headline.

  44. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    you were trying to make a statement with that headline.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Yes I was. In fact, I said “LMFAO @ LA schools”. I went to a LAUSD hogh school and it was a complete disgrace. Thus, my statement.

    What do you find objectionable BTW?

  45. KoolKell Says:

    Ok, I’m out. carry on.

  46. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the pricipal was not involved in picking the black role models.

    ***

    no, but she should have been.

    and you know those 3 suspended teachers were liberals.

    no good conservative would put those 3 clowns on a pedestal

  47. LA to TheBay Says:

    So Jerry.

    Free agency.

    Antonio Bryant?

    Any mention of Howard’s comments?

    Slippage.

  48. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 11:31 am
    Ok, I’m out. carry on.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    And stay out. Enough with the white racial slurs, you racist.

  49. DMAC Says:

    LA,
    Howard’s comments????

  50. LA to TheBay Says:

    Yes I was. In fact, I said “LMFAO @ LA schools”. I went to a LAUSD hogh school and it was a complete disgrace.

    LOL, you ain’t lying. However, LA Unified has an excellent “business program” in place.

    Many young entrepreneurs got their start right by the jungle gym 20 bucks at a time.

  51. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    no good conservative would put those 3 clowns on a pedestal

    :::::::::::::::::

    Yeah, they would choose Clarence Thomas, Al Jolson and Sambo.

  52. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Right guard Cooper Carlisle: $2.5 million.

    Running back Justin Fargas: $2.5 million.

    Offensive tackle Erik Pears: $1.5 million.

    Wide receiver Javon Walker: $2.6 million.

    Defensive tackle Gerard Warren: $1 million roster bonus.

    If they’re really looking for dollars to cut, those numbers are a good place to start or in the very least restructure under the threat of getting cut.

    -David White (SF Gate)

    ***

    don’t forget a paycut for Russell & Kelly !

  53. RaiderRockstar Says:

    they would choose Clarence Thomas, Al Jolson and Sambo

    ***

    who?

  54. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Many young entrepreneurs got their start right by the jungle gym 20 bucks at a time.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    True that. LAUSD broadened my vocab considerably, including “slang”, “doubleup” and “proper rocks”

  55. LA to TheBay Says:

    Thomas Howard: “I am not excited at all about this free agency”

    “I wish they got a CBA done and over with.”

    “It’s not just me, it’s guys all around the league,” Howard said. “They say you can go wherever you want after four years, then they take it away. You want to have that freedom but you really don’t. What can you do?”

    Doesn’t sound to me like he just wanted to test the market, he wanted out. Of course, Nnamndi and Shane and SeaBass did as well, Al just had to pay the schet outta them because of their UFA status.

    Howard was ready to hit the market as a UFA but the lack of a CBA changed it from 4 years of service to 6.

  56. Richochet Says:

    Richochet Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 11:09 am

    Onto more pressing issues…where’s JR?
    =================================

    # KoolKell Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 11:09 am

    Rakoshyt

    Still having problems with society? Poor thing.
    ===================================
    WOW…look at this sorryass joke of a man.

    Dude..your stalking thing is getting freaky.

    You haven’t posted ALL MORNING LONG..and immediately after I post? IN THE SAME FREAKING MINUTE..THERE YOU ARE, STALKING ME, LOOKING FOR MY ATTENTION?

    damn…Kelli..no wonder your wife has nothing to do with you.
    Oh..wait..that’s right…SHE’S WORKING..while you sit on that bulbous rather large quadraphonic butt cheeks known as an ass, or in your case, a Kelli.

    You just live for me…don’t you, Old Man?

  57. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I talked to Huff earlier this week, and while he acknowledged you never know in this business, he’s been told he will remain a Raider.

    -David White (SF Gate)

    ***

    YES! Huff Daddy is staying!

    Gibson #36 can stay on the field for ST and blitz packages

  58. LA to TheBay Says:

    True that. LAUSD broadened my vocab considerably, including “slang”, “doubleup” and “proper rocks”

    Or in your case “stepped on.”

    I know bout the arm and hammer Bo, don’t front.

    You ain’t got to lie to kick it.

  59. RaiderRockstar Says:

    *Per Star-Ledger, Former Fresno State great David Carr to visit 49ers, who have their own former No. 1 pick of a QB named Alex.

    *Raiders staying out of initial fray 2nd straight FA season. They may be more interested in dumping contracts than adding them right now.

    *Dolphins to cut Gibril Wilson. Guess Tuna didn’t know something the Raiders didn’t know after all.

    -David White (twitter)

  60. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    No lie LA/Bay. I was in Oakwood/Venice gettin all the good stuff. I was the lone white guy on the bball team so I had a visa into the hood, mostly.

  61. Richochet Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    March 4th, 2010 at 11:22 pm

    Chris in NY

    It’s alright peckerwood, it’s all good.
    =======================================

    # KoolKell Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 11:26 am

    Hey Peckerwood Podunker, how’s it going today?
    ============================
    KoolKell Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 11:29 am

    Boo

    You’re a lying piece of shyt.

    You fuking peckerwood you were trying to make a statement with that headline
    ==================================
    Urban Dictionary
    Definition: peckerwood

    “Racist term for white man.”

    ======================================================
    Your ass should be banned for your racist crap, Racist Scumbag.

  62. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 11:17 am
    LMAO even harder @ ” the state of Mich is a state blessed with the riches of unspoiled nature”

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Whereas the state of Ohio is a state bleassed with spoiled talking monkeys.
    ====================================================
    I may not be posting but I’m reading. I’m not a spoiled talking monkey! LMFAO

  63. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Cut Carlisle, Fargas, Pears, Walker & Warren!

    savings of over $10 million right there grandpa al!

    do it!

  64. RaiderRockstar Says:

    gotta meeting. BBL gents!

  65. LA to TheBay Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 11:44 am
    No lie LA/Bay. I was in Oakwood/Venice gettin all the good stuff. I was the lone white guy on the bball team so I had a visa into the hood, mostly.
    —————————————

    Lol, every person of color needs a white boy around IMO. Somebody has to talk to the cops.

    “Its OK Johnson, he speaks caucasian. He might be one of us.”

    Also to introduce them to white girls (you can clean up on the back end with the sistas who are sick of brothas talkin to white girls).

  66. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    RaiderRockstar

    I have not been a Russel basher in the past, even knowing the guys sucks! I think the whole team sucks collectively but ut man, D@mn!!!!!!!!!! I almost lost it in the work place when I opened up your link. LMFAO!!!!!!!D@mn you!!!! HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!
    —————————————————–

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 11:04 am
    JaMarcus celebrated with his agent after signing that monster contract in Oakland.

    http://www.geoffreedphoto.com/gallery_images/fun_recreation/loren_walrus_roll_01.jpg

  67. RaiderResurrection Says:

    I liked that hit Mike Huff laid on that Jabroni Brandon Marshall last year

  68. DKnight007 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 11:51 am
    Cut Carlisle, Fargas, Pears, Walker & Warren!

    savings of over $10 million right there grandpa al!

    do it!

    ^^^^^^^^
    Agree with all those players needing to cut. However, I don’t see Fargas being cut right away, but I do think they restructure down his contract.

    If they draft a RB later in the draft or sign a good rookie free agent to compete for Fargas’ roster spot and plays better than Fargas then I could see him being possibly cut.

  69. Dakota Says:

    Al Davis is broke. If he had the money he would be throwing it at Peppers and Dansby right now. he is just trying to keep his own loser players.

    Man, I thought Al was a crappy GM when he had money to spend, now he doesn’t even have the money to keep things interesting.

    puuuuuuuke

  70. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dakota

    Congratulations on your new son. Did you take any of our name suggestions into consideration? Ahhh little Kobe Zambrano Dakota…

  71. RaiderDogg Says:

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  72. Dakota Says:

    Dogg,
    Thanks!
    I settled on Dr. Jerry Buss Dakota.

  73. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dakota Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
    Dogg,
    Thanks!
    I settled on Dr. Jerry Buss Dakota.
    ====================================
    That’s quite an homage.

    So how is the wife holding up?

  74. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 12:33 pm

    Dogg,
    Thanks!
    I settled on Dr. Jerry Buss Dakota.
    ==================================================

    I thought we all agreed the new little additions name was going to be Lil’ Seymour Dakota. How’s lil Seymour doing?

  75. vegas raider Says:

    I preferred either Dick Dakota or Leon Durham Dakota

  76. Dakota Says:

    Little Dakota was born 10 days early and weighed 8 lbs 9oz. He is doing very well now that his circumcision is healed up, thanks for asking.

  77. DKnight007 Says:

    Dakota Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
    Al Davis is broke. If he had the money he would be throwing it at Peppers and Dansby right now. he is just trying to keep his own loser players.

    Man, I thought Al was a crappy GM when he had money to spend, now he doesn’t even have the money to keep things interesting.

    puuuuuuuke

    ^^^^^^^^
    Exactly….he is broke and adding to that NO big time free agents like Dansby will even consider coming here even he did have the money.

    If the old man went on a looney spending spree this year, then he would he would seriously be in the toilet and he knows it.

    The blackouts and lack of attendance at home games does hurt him in the pocket…no matter what anyone says and that includes you Priesst….period! LOL

  78. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I preferred either Dick Dakota or Leon Durham Dakota

    ***

    I heard Kell named his kid Albert Gary Coleman Davis.

    weird, huh?

  79. vegas raider Says:

    Today’s ESPN desk calendar trivia….

    In 1990 Emmitt Smith was the second RB chosen in that draft. Who was the first?

  80. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I don’t see Fargas being cut right away, but I do think they restructure down his contract.

    ***

    DKnight007: reports are out that both Fargas & Warren are getting axed before their bonus payments are due.

    I suppose Fargas could be re-signed at a lesser cost later or perhaps restructure before the bonus deadline, but I think it’s more than that. I think Davis wants to thin out the herd. More carries for McBush that way, you see?

  81. Dakota Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
    Today’s ESPN desk calendar trivia….

    In 1990 Emmitt Smith was the second RB chosen in that draft. Who was the first?
    +++++++++++++++++
    One eyed Joe Aska?

    Just kidding…Blair Thomas

  82. RaiderRockstar Says:

    In 1990 Emmitt Smith was the second RB chosen in that draft. Who was the first?

    ***

    Blair Thomas?

  83. RaiderRockstar Says:

    trade the walrus for Joe Aska!

  84. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I almost lost it in the work place when I opened up your link. LMFAO!!!!!!!

    ***

    glad I could help CJ :)

    Dakota has a better pic of JaWalrus, but I’m not sure if he’ll repost. it was quite some time ago

  85. Norco Bob Says:

    Is Big Ben a serial rapist or what? lol

  86. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Good afternoon, Raiders fans.

  87. vegas raider Says:

    Good work, thought it might be harder

  88. Dakota Says:

    Peppers signed with Da Bears.

    So did Chester the Molester.

    They still have no offensive line though….

  89. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Barry Sims is a free agent. any interest?

    he was pretty solid during 6 of his 9 seasons in Oakland …

    I’d take him as backup LT before guys like Harris or Barnes!

  90. Dakota Says:

    Al is doing the right thing…he is concentrating on keeping this core group of guys together and is shying away from spending money on free agents because they might mess with the 10+ loss per season chemistry these guys have going.

    Just Win Baby!

  91. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Peppers + Tommie Harris + Lance Briggs + Brian Urlacher in Chicago?

    Favre might want to stay retired!

  92. RaiderDebo Says:

    Roehtlisberger accused of sexual assault again?? A lot of you guys love to talk about how “dumb” JR is. Where does this guy rank?

  93. Dakota Says:

    This must be what it feels like to wake up on Christmas Day and find that you got zero new presents…instead your parents just re-gifted you crap toys like Garbagekowski, Morris, Frye, Lawton, and Routt.

  94. RaiderRockstar Says:

    This must be what it feels like to wake up on Christmas Day and find that you got zero new presents

    ***

    I grew up poor. My parents used to just cut a hole in my pants pockets so i’d have something to play with

  95. Dakota Says:

    lol

  96. Dakota Says:

    Hey, maybe that means we can trade for Big Ben!

  97. RaiderRockstar Says:

    regarding AC to Jets-

    His tackling has been an issue, as well as his attitude, but Cromartie vows to improve. He also is dealing with paternity issues: Cromartie has fathered seven children by several women in five states.

    http://sports.cbs5.com/fb/story.asp?i=20100305205143310000101&ref=hea&tm=&src=

    LOL!

  98. RaiderDebo Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
    Peppers + Tommie Harris + Lance Briggs + Brian Urlacher in Chicago?

    Favre might want to stay retired!
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Read an article yesterday that said Peppers’ signing could push Harris off the roster.

  99. DKnight007 Says:

    Dakota Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
    This must be what it feels like to wake up on Christmas Day and find that you got zero new presents…instead your parents just re-gifted you crap toys like Garbagekowski, Morris, Frye, Lawton, and Routt.

    ^^^^^^^^
    On top that….you are stuck with an overpaid QB like Juggs Russell who is lazy.

    That’s like actually getting one expensive REAL gift for X-Mas….but that one expensive gift either doesn’t work or is defected. Sheesh….LOL

  100. Dakota Says:

    7×7x5?

    ouch…I wonder how many McFadden has by now?

  101. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Debo: that would be wild if we ended up with Tommie Harris & Jamal Williams in the middle of our D-Line, wouldn’t it?

    instant respect vs. the run!

  102. vegas raider Says:

    What’s up with these cats? Big Ben could come to Vegas and have his pick of the liter, instead he is dabbling with girls from Milledgeville, GA.

  103. jhill Says:

    I just don’t see Al adding another big salary to the Dline. I think we may be looking at a mid round pick or a lower lever FA.

  104. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I wonder how many McFadden has by now?

    ***

    I lost count after 4. He probably did too

    He can run pretty fast (when healthy) …

  105. Dakota Says:

    Used up and spit out Vegas meat or a southern belle?

    Come on Vegas Raider!

  106. DKnight007 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
    Debo: that would be wild if we ended up with Tommie Harris & Jamal Williams in the middle of our D-Line, wouldn’t it?

    instant respect vs. the run!

    ^^^^^^^^
    Sign DT Tommie Harris and cut Warren or Kelly.

    Move Seymour inside and pair him with Harris and then draft a STUD passing rushing RDE like Brandon Graham, Derrick Morgan or JPP.

    TheN draft OT or LB with that 2nd round pick.

  107. Dakota Says:

    Southern Belle:

    http://www.mooncostumes.com/image/463

  108. RaiderRockstar Says:

    quit trying to p1ss in the Kool-Aid, Jhill!

    look. do you want to go 11-5 or not?

    if the answer is yes … get a real NT :)

  109. vegas raider Says:

    Milledgeville, according to wiki, is a town of about 20,000 people, half are black and 25% is below the poverty line.

    WTF would a goofy, filthy-rich white guy like Ben be doing there?

  110. RaiderDebo Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
    Debo: that would be wild if we ended up with Tommie Harris & Jamal Williams in the middle of our D-Line, wouldn’t it?

    instant respect vs. the run!
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    With both those guys I MIGHT even be able to give Capt. Kirk ONE more chance.

  111. Dakota Says:

    Vegas chick:
    http://cm1.theinsider.com/thumbnail/400/469/cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/74/37/98_cher.jpg

  112. RaiderRockstar Says:

    goofy, filthy-rich white guy like Ben be doing there?

    ***

    jungle fever?

  113. jhill Says:

    2nd or 3rd rd pick can get you a real NT. Don’t have to spend big $ on a guy like Harris or Williams. If Williams was still any good, SD wouldn’t have let him go, don’t you think? Look at all the NTs that got tagged or tendered. Especially the guys who play the NT in a 3-4.

  114. vegas raider Says:

    Dakota,

    Curious what a Dakota chick would look like.

    Vegas girls might be a little weathered, but they are all hot as hell.

    See what happens when you get a newbie “southern belle”. Allegations of criminal activity

  115. jhill Says:

    He was looking for Sunshine, Vegas!

  116. Dakota Says:

    Vegas,

    Daisy Duke was from SD!

    http://kidsdontgetit.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/daisy_duke.jpg

    So was Cheryl Ladd…but that all I got lol

  117. Dakota Says:

    Just kidding Vegas, we all know there are tons of hot chicks in your town…

  118. vegas raider Says:

    If Daisy was from Vegas, she would have better hair and nails, bigger faker boobs, and a lot more makeup on.

    To each their own I guess.

    Point being, you want a fling, you come to Vegas not Milledgeville. Doubt he was looking for his future wife, if so, I don’t think his approach worked.

  119. jhill Says:

    The only time I saw a bunch of HOT chicks in Vegas was during a DeLaHoya fight at Caesars. I mean the senoritas there that day …. ohhhhh weeeee!

    Other than that, very over rated town.

    I’ll gladly take some advice on where to go.

  120. RaiderRockstar Says:

    If Williams was still any good, SD wouldn’t have let him go, don’t you think?

    ***

    every Raider fan on the planet saw Jamal Williams dominate the interior of Raider O-Lines for 11+ seasons. the dude is a beast.

    If he’s done? so be it … but I think we owe it to ourselves to bring him in and kick the tires if we’re getting serious about upgrading one or both DT positions

  121. jhill Says:

    Vegas,

    You can not underestimate the value of some random puhsee. To be able to just pull some unsuspecting prey is a lot more rewarding, wouldn’t you say?

  122. vegas raider Says:

    Well your not going to find cute or pretty out here, but if you want porn star bodies, they are a dime a dozen.

  123. vegas raider Says:

    Jhill,

    Sure it is pretty cool to be the most happening thing in town. Definately an ego-booster.

    If he wants random, innoncent youngsters, wouldn’t he go back to his college town?

    I just don’t see how Milledgevill fits the equation.

  124. vegas raider Says:

    Gotta run

  125. jhill Says:

    He was there for a charity golf event and the cart wench was looking pretty good to him.

  126. RaiderRockstar Says:

    is Peppers really worth 6 years, 72 million?

    what would Dick Seymour cost us now?

    6 years, 65 million?

  127. lefty12 Says:

    Are any players really worth what they are getting paid?

  128. Dakota Says:

    Sorry Al, I didn’t mean to doubt you!

    Raiders just traded 3rd and 5th round picks in this year’s draft and next year’s 3rd round pick to the Cardinals for Boldin. Boldin is expected to sign a 5 year $42.7 million dollar deal with $26.3 million guaranteed.

    Per ESPN

  129. RaiderRockstar Says:

    A woman has accused Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger of sexual assault, TMZ Sports reports.

    TMZ reports that the alleged assault took place early Friday morning at a club in Milledgeville, Georgia, and that the alleged victim has been treated and released.

    Roethlisberger has been accused of sexual assault before: in 2009, a woman named Andrea McNulty accused Big Ben of a 2008 sexual assault that took place in Reno, Nevada. That case was never pursued criminally.

    Developing…

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/05/ben-roethlisberger-sexual_n_487877.html

  130. Dakota Says:

    Where does that leave DHB and Chaz?

  131. RaiderDebo Says:

    Dakota Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
    Sorry Al, I didn’t mean to doubt you!

    Raiders just traded 3rd and 5th round picks in this year’s draft and next year’s 3rd round pick to the Cardinals for Boldin. Boldin is expected to sign a 5 year $42.7 million dollar deal with $26.3 million guaranteed.

    Per ESPN
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    No way.

  132. Dakota Says:

    Way.

  133. Dakota Says:

    I’d rather have traded for Marshall instead of Boldin, but hey, Al is Al.

  134. RaiderDebo Says:

    I thought he was available for just a third.

  135. DKnight007 Says:

    RaiderDebo Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
    Dakota Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
    Sorry Al, I didn’t mean to doubt you!

    Raiders just traded 3rd and 5th round picks in this year’s draft and next year’s 3rd round pick to the Cardinals for Boldin. Boldin is expected to sign a 5 year $42.7 million dollar deal with $26.3 million guaranteed.

    Per ESPN
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    No way.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Heeyyy! The old man likes proving some of us wrong….but this team will still go nowhere without an O-Line, D-Line and more importantly a QB!

  136. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raiders just traded 3rd and 5th round picks in this year’s draft and next year’s 3rd round pick to the Cardinals for Boldin.

    ***

    pretty sweet we still have our 1st, 2nd & 3rd rounders this year to address the lines!

  137. RaiderDebo Says:

    I can’t find this anywhere. where did you find it?

  138. DKnight007 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
    Raiders just traded 3rd and 5th round picks in this year’s draft and next year’s 3rd round pick to the Cardinals for Boldin.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Source?

  139. inonewordraider Says:

    Good to have depth, does this mean we’re trading a receiver?

  140. Dakota Says:

    RaiderDebo Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
    I can’t find this anywhere. where did you find it?

    http://otrsportsonline.com/2010/03/05/boldin-trade-close/

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  142. buckeyeraider Says:

    You guys are making this shyt up. Right?

  143. Dakota Says:

    lol

    You guys are tooooo easy.

  144. RaiderRockstar Says:

    bleacher report has something about Boldin to Oakland too. I think?

  145. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    dakota’s b.s.’ed like this before

  146. Dakota Says:

    LMAO…MADE YOU GOOGLE!

  147. RaiderDebo Says:

    Dakota Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
    RaiderDebo Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
    I can’t find this anywhere. where did you find it?

    http://otrsportsonline.com/2010/03/05/boldin-trade-close/
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    It’s not on there. Ok, you got me. It’s a joke, right?

  148. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    not me dude

  149. jonesy941 Says:

    where is that story could not find it anywhere boldin to raiders????

  150. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    dakota, what u think about the lakers rebound 2day. always struggle vs. bobcats.

  151. Dakota Says:

    Don’t hate me guys….it was a slow day, and if just for a minute or two, at least I got your heart going!

  152. buckeyeraider Says:

    If Al is going to throw money around like that on a free agent, I’d rather it be Boldin’s teammate Karlos Dansby.
    I Kinda like our young receiving corps.

  153. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    damn that came out wrong.

  154. DKnight007 Says:

    there is no trade….

  155. lefty12 Says:

    Dakota is always joking around.Remember the time he told everyone about all those 80 yard TD runs we’d get if we drafted some skinny legged RB from Arkansas.He has a great sense of humor.

  156. Dakota Says:

    raideredoutL.A,

    Yes, the Bobcats own us….we only beat them when Wallace is injured…is he playing?

  157. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    5bills for 3bills on lakers win straight up?

  158. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    wallace is playing.

  159. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Ben was at a night club called “The Velvet Elvis.”—– tmz.com

    I schyit you not.

    Check out the pic tmz has..http://www.tmz.com/

  160. 408RAIDER Says:

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZ…

  161. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    i dont think i’m going to do it.

  162. Dakota Says:

    Have a nice weekend guys!

    Who knows, maybe we will trade for Boldin…

  163. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    we don’t need boldin

  164. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Trade DHB for Boldin’s nephew that’s a little slow, but kinda looks like him.

  165. KingDan Says:

    Now that they we resigned Barnes I feel much better.

  166. buckeyeraider Says:

    I’ve been on the draft McClain at 8 bandwagon for awhile now. But now I’m having second thoughts. I Know eight is high for a guard, but I’m liking the thought of plugging that nasty bastard Iupati from Idaho next to Satele and opening some running lanes for Bush, McFadden and Co.
    Hopefully the MLB’s slide to Rd 2 like Rey and Laurenitis did last year.

  167. Thec07 Says:

    PFT says 3 teams talking to cards about boldin
    KC, NE, Balt…..

    If he doesnt come here ship him to Balt. Dont want him in KC, and Fugg NE…better yet Fugg all 3….

  168. Thec07 Says:

    Last year clearly was the best draft for LB’s….
    4 went from USC…

  169. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raiders & Seymour working on long-term deal

    -ESPN

  170. Thec07 Says:

    New Post

  171. RaiderRockstar Says:

    new post!

  172. RaiderDebo Says:

    Roethlisberger’s rep denies wrongdoing
    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 5, 2010 4:58 PM ET
    Ben Roethlisberger is in the news once again for a sexual assault accusation.

    And once again, he is denying any wrongdoing.

    Roethlisberger’s representatives have denied the allegations involved in TMZ’s report after being contacted by PFT Friday.

    They did not comment as to whether Roethlisberger was in fact accused of sexual assault, just that the allegations were untrue and the events in question did not happen.

    TMZ reported that Roethlisberger is accused of sexual assault.

    The Milledgeville, Georgia Police Dept. has confirmed they are investigating a sexual assault that took place Friday, but would not revealed the name of the accused.

    UPDATE: Brooks from Sports By Brooks reports Steelers offensive lineman Willie Colon was with Roethlisberger Friday night. Colon is not accused of any wrongdoing.

    UPDATE II: There are conflicting reports as to whether Roethlisberger has been interviewed by police. Roethlisberger owns a home on Lake Oconee, Georgia.

  173. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 11:28 am
    principal must be a liberal

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    RRS, the pricipal was not involved in picking the black role models. Read the article. Or are you like most neocons who have no need for facts when forming outrageous opinions

    ===========================

    lmao! EXACTLY.

  174. souldogdave Says:

    Dakota, you are such a hoser for posting false info. Don’t you have anything better to do? Go hang out with richochet or something.

  175. djohnnyg Says:

    Raiders & Seymour working on long-term deal

    -ESPN
    _______________________________________________________

    Who f’ing cares?

  176. djohnnyg Says:

    Yeah, let’s make sure we keep all those players who gave us 5-11 last year. Makes so much sense.

    I can’t wait to see an NFL record low attendance of 9,000 fans at the Coliseum next year becaue of the worthless team Al Davis is putting together.

    This is so pathetic.

  177. RaiderResurrection Says:

    To Djohnnyg:

    I feel you bro. I’m sad about our team’s demise also.
    Hopefully we start on the up trend soon

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