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Vote of confidence for Shaughnessy

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, March 8th, 2010 at 4:36 pm in Oakland Raiders.

With multiple media outlets reporting the release of wide receiver Javon Walker and defensive end Greg Ellis Monday, the player who stands the most to gain is defensive end Matt Shaughnessy.

Walker was in the second year of a renegotiated contract which which guaranteed him $2.6 million this season. He ends his Raiders career with 15 receptions for 196 yards and one touchdown and will pocket some $21 million.

The two-year payout is now being reported as closer to $14 million. What I relief. For a minute there, I thought the Raiders had gotten fleeced.

Ellis is a bit of a surprise in that the lineman most expected to go was defensive tackle Gerard Warren, who has a $1 million roster bonus due at some point this month.

When last seen at the facility following the season, Ellis talked of having non-invasive knee surgery which would enable him to play another season. He had an in-season arthroscopic procedure which caused him to miss two games.

Lauded by coach Tom Cable for his leadership ability along with fellow veteran end Richard Seymour, one reason Ellis became expendable was the play of Shaughnessy, a third-round draft pick out of Wisconsin.

Shaghnessy was not only extremely active, showing the ability to get to the sideline as well as downfield to make a play, but hopefully will develop into a solid point-of-attack player for the NFL’s 29th ranked rushing defense.

Ellis, strength was primarily as a pass rusher and in his last year in Dallas had his snaps limited against teams that went heavy to the run.

Both transactions showed up Tuesday afternoon on the NFL official personnel wire, and were confirmed by the Raiders.

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482 Responses to “Vote of confidence for Shaughnessy”

  1. Norco Bob Says:

    Lonely at the top.

  2. Seymour Bush Says:

    He should get a vote of confidence

  3. Raider-405 Says:

    Certainly a surprise, but not unexpected regarding Ellis.

    With Walker… why oh why did it take this long?

  4. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    February 28th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
    # Thec07 Says:
    February 28, 2010 at 11:31 pm
    Makes sense to me. If Mr. davis was paying me in some way shape or form i would defend also…lol
    =============================================
    No, I’m not paid by the Raiders. But, if you asked me my own history, I graduated with a four year degree at 20, bought a house at 19 which is paid off, had a public corporation at 26, and I do what I want from the age of 29 on. The question still stands….what have you ever done?
    =========================
    LMFAO..you are so full of crap.

    Dude…you’re a professional liar as it is.

    YOU ALREADY ADMITTED YOU LIVE IN THE GHETTO, NEAR THE COLISEUM..liar.

    Oh…and dumbass? Should read before you post…see…you stated YOU WERE IN SCHOOL UNTIL YOU WERE 20?

    Yet..lol…YET…YOU BOUGHT A HOUSE WHEN YOU WERE STILL A FULL TIME STUDENT, AT 19?? That’s..uh..paid for?

    lol…you’re so stupid you can’t even lie right.

    Try it again, cross posting loser.

    Definition of Seymour and his cross posting handles?

    Compulsive Cross Poster:
    The compulsive cross poster is someone who has serious self-image problems. They feel that creating multiple handles, and posting to oneself, and then proceeding to read what they posted, in their own little insecure way, they convince themselves they’re not a loser.
    Some compulsive cross posters will actually engage in full conversations with themselves, only to gloat later to everyone how they conquered..well..their self.
    Once they are exposed, the compulsive cross poster will always make more new handles, hoping to gain back a little bit of self respect that they never seem to find.

  5. Richochet Says:

    · Thec07 Says:
    March 1st, 2010 at 1:03 pm
    DKnight007 Says:
    March 1st, 2010 at 12:56 pm
    Seymour Bush Says:
    February 28th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
    # Thec07 Says:
    February 28, 2010 at 11:31 pm
    Makes sense to me. If Mr. davis was paying me in some way shape or form i would defend also…lol
    =============================================
    No, I’m not paid by the Raiders. But, if you asked me my own history, I graduated with a four year degree at 20, bought a house at 19 which is paid off, had a public corporation at 26, and I do what I want from the age of 29 on. The question still stands….what have you ever done?
    ^^^^^^^^
    Wow, Seymour Bush….you just proved to be an even bigger jerk and douche than what most us already thought before.
    The thing is NOBODY asked you what you did….ya Douche….and guess what….NOBODY gives a crap!
    We all have our own little ego building uccess stories in some way shape or form and we all have our own screw ups.
    So, in the final analysis….you “may” have graduated when you were 20….and you “may” bought a house at 19 and allegedly paid it off…(i wonder if mommy and daddy might have paid if off for you hmm?) and you “may” have a successful corporation in a down economy no less?
    Howvever, by divulging all this to us on here WITHOUT anyone asking and NOBODY on here CARING…..shows your not very bright and not very mature either are you?
    Ya Idiot….
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Yep……

  6. Raider-405 Says:

    My vote of confidence is that Oakland will now take either Jason Paul- Pierre or Derrick Morgan.

  7. vegas raider Says:

    We got our moneys worth from Ellis, and paid over a million dollars per catch for the Israeli knee-patient.

    Night and day between those two FA signings.

  8. The RaiderCast | Vote of confidence for Shaughnessy Says:

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  9. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    March 3rd, 2010 at 5:11 pm
    Richochet Says:
    March 3rd, 2010 at 5:07 pm
    Come on OakGlenSeyMORON..tell us again how you stupidly stated you graduated at 20, BUT BOUGHT A HOUSE AT 19???
    =========================================
    Statement of fact wack job. You see, when you are a psychopathic liar like yourself, you think everyone else is the same way. But, some of us are not psychopathic liars like you. I bought my lst house at age 19 and still own it. Graduated at age 20 with a four year degree from Boulder and that’s nothing. I could go on and on and on. But enough about me. The question still remains, what have you ever done?
    ================================
    You’re a liar.
    You’re a FULL TIME COLLEGE STUDENT..but BOUGHT A HOUSE AT 19?
    You’re a liar.
    No bank would give you a loan, LIAR. NO BANK OR LENDER IN THE COUNTRY IS GOING TO SELL A HOUSE TO A STUDENT WHO DOESN’T HAVE A JOB.
    You’re busted fool…(Oh, it wasn’t me that busted your sorryass…numerous posters called you out on it, where YOU TUCKED YOUR TAIL AND RAN, LIKE THE POS THAT YOU ARE..I just get to remind you how you got busted…little “salt in the wound” fool.
    So…come on, fool…explain how a lender gave you a loan when you weren’t working..lol…this should be good.

  10. stubblebuzz Says:

    Does this mean the Raiders could also be looking at Pierre-Paul (who fits the criteria for measurables) or Derrick Morgan, the two DEs on the top of every board?

  11. ottocrat Says:

    “I’d rather be right, than consistent” –Al Davis.

    Well you lose consistently, and you’re pretty much never right. So, now what you old queen?

  12. Norco Bob Says:

    Rich, please my dear friend,..dumb them down, I cant figure them out,..ok?…thanks. Word.

  13. Seymour Bush Says:

    Uh Oh, another wack-o melt down in full effect. What’s wrong wack-o? Do you need me to sh** in your face again?

  14. Richochet Says:

    AND WHEN CHALLENGED ON THE ABOVE?
    What was Oakglenn’s reply?
    On how it was he allegedly “bought” a house when he was 19? how a lender would give a loan to a college student?

    What was his lie?

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    March 3rd, 2010 at 5:23 pm
    Wack job how do you know I didn’t have a hit band at the age of 18?
    =================================

    Yep, ROFLMFAO..that is very likely the dumbest lie EVER posted on this board…right behind Kelli’s slew that he was busted for on the real estate company’s web site, where he’s an entry level flunky.

    Gee, Seymoron/Oakglenn…regale us all about your hit band, lol.

  15. KoolKell Says:

    Walker was in the second year of a renegotiated contract which which guaranteed him $2.6 million this season. He ends his Raiders career with 15 receptions for 196 yards and one touchdown and will pocket some $21 million.”
    _____________________________
    Incompetent General Managing, perfectly illustrated.

  16. vegas raider Says:

    Please no DE at #8.

    Can we get a DT, LB or T/G???

    Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  17. Richochet Says:

    Bobbo?
    Dumbed down version….just for you.

    Oakglen stated he “graduated at 20″.
    Then stupidly added “bought a house at 19″..too slow to realize full time students, at 19, don’t qualify for a home loan.
    Then, when called out on it, decided to run the “oh..well..uh…I have a band..yeah..that’s it…a very successful band that gave me enough money to buy a house at 19..while STILL a full time student.”

    Do you suppose I should ask him why he quit his massively successful gig? lol…

    I think I will.

  18. Norco Bob Says:

    21 million is chump change to al davis,..old troll kell you know that. Word.

  19. vegas raider Says:

    Throw in DHB and we got about 22 catches for 300+ yards and 2 whole TD’s for something close to $30 million.

    Lou Murphy softens the blow a tad, but Jovan was a lost cause from the jump.

    Supposedly he owns a house out here, and no other athlete is in the “Scene and Heard” gossip section of the LV papers more than him.

    At least Al is fueling the local economy out here, lol

  20. Richochet Says:

    Ok, SeymoronOakglenn…tell us about your band.

    Wait.

    You a girl band?

  21. Seymour Bush Says:

    Poor wittle wack-o losing it badly. Actually wack-o you’re not losing it, you never had it to begin with.

  22. HayesDaze37 Says:

    405 — You in OKC?? Ever hear of/go to the IU Sports Bar (Inner-Urban)? Is it still in biz? I’ve had a few large draughts in that joint.

  23. Richochet Says:

    awwwww…did Oakglen take a powder?
    run in his stocking?

    bummer

  24. Seymour Bush Says:

    Poor wittle wack-o. Lost it completely. But never really had it.

  25. KoolKell Says:

    DeAngelo Hall
    Javon Walker

    Incompetent General Managing at it’s finest.

  26. Richochet Says:

    Hey, oakglen..those are YOUR WORDS..not mine.

    See…YOU stated you graduated at 20…not me.
    YOU stated you bought a house at 19…not me.
    YOU stated that in order to buy it…uh…that you just MIGHT be a successful band, lol…NOT ME.

    all I did was bust your sorry lying ass..and exposed you as a POS lying fool.

    that’s all :)

  27. Raider-405 Says:

    The only sensible move is to draft OT, move Mario to the left. There is no way to know if McFadden can be a star if you dont show the effort to upgrade the line.

    Then again, I see us taking OT like Bruce Campbell who has Vernon Gholston written all over him as far as success at the next level.

  28. Seymour Bush Says:

    Seeing “Jivin’” Walker hit the streets is addition by subtraction. The only one to miss him is mistabrOwn. What does that tell ya?

  29. Seymour Bush Says:

    Wack-o is a completely insane troll. No one cares what he thinks. He must mumbles and mumbles and mumbles. While no one cares what he thinks.

  30. Richochet Says:

    You denying you said the following, Oakglen?
    If not, care to explain?
    Or you just want to state “Ok, I’m a lying POS’?

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    March 3rd, 2010 at 5:23 pm
    Wack job how do you know I didn’t have a hit band at the age of 18?

  31. Raider-405 Says:

    # HayesDaze37 Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    405 — You in OKC?? Ever hear of/go to the IU Sports Bar (Inner-Urban)? Is it still in biz? I’ve had a few large draughts in that joint.


    Yeah, they have three locations now here in the city.
    Good place for sure

  32. vegas raider Says:

    At least Walker didn’t cost us a draft-pick.

    $8 million dollars AND a 2nd rounder for 8 largely unproductive games from Meangelo???

    Damn you to hell AL!!!!!!!!

  33. Norco Bob Says:

    Theres goes old troll kell,..crying again, not really typical of an old man,..but, well, thats our old troll kell though…all good. hey now.

  34. Richochet Says:

    I’ll check back in a little while, and see if your lying ass wants to back up his words, Oakglenn.

    Care to bet me you won’t?

    (again, only thing worse than a lying ass POS, is a STUPID lying ass POS, who craps on his own shoe, proving, without help, that he’s too damn stupid to play outside after dark…lol…yep..that would be you, LYING POS.

  35. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Nnamdi, I was saying that the anti-Gary Russell is oversized… because Gary Russell is UNDERsized.

  36. Seymour Bush Says:

    The Psychopathic Troll:

    The psychopathic troll is motivated to participate in an internet forum by psychotic delusions or compulsions, or by the neurotic seeking of false self esteem. The postings of a psychotic troll are unlikely to make any recognizable sense at all. The neurotic troll either seeks to obtain false self esteem by manipulating the reactions of others, or by demonstrating his “power” to destroy what others enjoy. The neurotic troll is often manipulative enough to make it past the initial moderation.

    Textbook defintion of our troll wack-o-sheeit

  37. SteveAlford21 Says:

    I figured that was obvious because I was referring to someone who is 6′6″ and 270lbs in comparison to GR. Sorry if there was any ambiguity in my post… I just thought it was clear.

  38. Seymour Bush Says:

    hey Wack job there is your biography in number 36.

  39. Mistabr0wn Says:

    OakGlen, they should put your picture next to that definition and make it official.

  40. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Shaughnessy played pretty well I like his upside but I hope they bring Ellis back for less $

    J Walker, your out of jail, go play ball.

  41. Mistabr0wn Says:

    We have Raider news so we wont be talking about Barback 0bama taking the entire Dem party down with him..

    lmao @ this hope & change disaster

  42. KoolKell Says:

    Doofus Boob says:

    Why are you always complaining about losing old kell, losing’s not so bad. I pop pills everyday, have fun, kell.
    ____________________________
    Doofus

    When I need advice from a drug and alchohol abusing loser, I’ll holla, ok?

  43. vegas raider Says:

    SteveAlford,

    Your obviously a pretty bright guy, but somehow you seem to still have issues with this new post thing, lol

    Come on bro, pick it up!!!!

  44. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Oakglen, your a big global warming hoax kinda nutbag..

    How about this winter we are having ? Polar Bears are probably over populated about now..lol

  45. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Does RickyLake have a football comment? Or is he just in here to thrash around in his unhealthy and pathetic rants against everybody and everything?

    It would be funny…if he was funny. In the slightest. Alas, he is not…so, we all watch as he chases that smelly tail around.

    RickyLake needs to change to another of his handles…this one is just not as fun as his others.

    And, KK — I tried to tell you about letting too much of your info out. No worries though, old-timer…any of the wack jobs’ entries in here are easily tracked. Feigned threats and warnings against you by the internet tough guys (and their fake friends) shouldn’t be ignored, though…you need to better protect your wife, boss/co-workers, and self. Just sayin’

  46. Mistabr0wn Says:

    KoolKell, are you still working 18hr shifts here at Jerrys blog ? Whats a matta did Acorn throw you out of their volunteer program?

  47. Seymour Bush Says:

    Here is some video of me taking on wack-o-sheeit. Wack-o is the lumbering white guy in the dark trunks. The best part is at the end when he is looking for his teeth on the ground he mentions how well he did:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VawHgrLvbD4&feature=related

  48. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    O.K.. . .time to man-up (with my tail between my legs)

    I may boldly state my opinions, but, I’ll definitely admit when I’m wrong.

    And I can honestly say that I’ve never been as wrong about anything as with the prediction I made about Javon Walker during preseason last year.

    My prediction?

    That Walker would have 1200 receiving yards in 2009 and be named “player of the year”.

    Damn!

    Bastard could have at least PLAYED so that he could have the CHANCE to be player of the year LOL

  49. vegas raider Says:

    Jovan Walker released and Cornell Green walks….

    The 2nd best day so far this offseason (with Bruce’s tender being number one)

  50. Seymour Bush Says:

    Funny how one nutbag leaves and another nutbag arrives. Hey mistabrOwn you might want to get you GED at some shady night school before you start talking about science. You’re already embarrasing yourself.

  51. Mistabr0wn Says:

    OakGlen, when you changed your name to this Seymour you should have ignored Richochet to throw us off for a day…

  52. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    lol, MB.

  53. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Oakglen, just because I call you a nutbag doesn’t mean you repeat it, ok?

    This isnt simon says…

  54. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    javon walker is finally gone!!!!! there is a god!!

    now i dont have 2 deal with him on my madden team …… fukked up my salary cap :(

  55. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Oakglen, do you want to school me on science after you bought into the whole global warming hoax? You dum little twit go hug Al Gore’s nutsack!

  56. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Yeah, 405 — Last time there was a few years ago, and they probably had others up…but I wouldn’t have known to ask. The original was exactly the same as I remembered it a decade earlier. Very comfy place to watch games of any type.

    I got people in Norman…beautiful land, with “backyard” lakes. What part of town you in?

  57. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    hmm. i wonder will the video game have a salary cap ??

    antiway … so umm. im thionkin bout buyin this 1996 BMW318I ITS DIRT CHEAP ./ SOOO , U GUYS THINK ITLL BE TOO HIGH MAINTENANCE. ?

  58. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Seymour (I’ll call him whatever name he wants to go by), you spend all of this energy fighting in here, don’t you think Al Davis should help you out a little and put a team on the field that backs up your arguing? You’re carrying all of the weight for Mr. Davis.

  59. Seymour Bush Says:

    mistabrOwn, why don’t you take a shower and then come back. I really can’t stand the smell.

  60. KoolKell Says:

    Those German cars are high maintenance when they’re old. I had an old Mercedes, my gawd.

  61. Seymour Bush Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    Seymour (I’ll call him whatever name he wants to go by), you spend all of this energy fighting in here, don’t you think Al Davis should help you out a little and put a team on the field that backs up your arguing? You’re carrying all of the weight for Mr. Davis.
    ==========================================================

    The interesting part is I don’t spend ANY energy fighting in here. Wack-o has been fighting everyone all day every day, if mistabrOwn got a labotomy his IQ would increase, and you are the Dancing Queen of the blog. Why would anyone spend any time on ANY OF YOU?

  62. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    A chevy v8 will last you a lifetime if you take care of it.

  63. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Seymour, since you answer to Oakglen, we all know you’re OakGlen, why dontcha just use your name?

    And you giving props to yourself under this name is borderline Napa State Hospital material, ok?

  64. HayesDaze37 Says:

    S-N-S — I wouldn’t worry too much about that old prediction…anybody who would want to dredge-up ill will over such a thing, rather than looking ahead at this point, isn’t worth your effort. Javon Who??

  65. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    lol, alright, Seymour. So when you told me that Alstott and Brian Kelly played a major role in Tampa’s ‘07 division title, you were just joking? Sounded like you were trying to make an argument, to me.

  66. RaiderDogg Says:

    The more things change, the more they stay the same ;)

  67. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    A chevy v8 will last you a lifetime if you take care of it.
    =====================================================

    Gospel truth.

  68. RaiderResurrection Says:

    No matter what. We have good defensive ends. We’re set.

    We need Defensive tackles and a Offensive tackle as well as an upgrade at linebacker.

  69. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    We need a new defensive coordinator, new head coach, now general management, and an entirely new mindset, resurrection. This is the NFL. You need players to be in the right position to make plays, and there isn’t a soul in this organization that’s good at doing that. And if there is, he’s muzzled because Marshall is doing Al Davis’s bidding as DC.

  70. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Great news on the economy KoolKell..

    ONLY 36,000 people lost their job this period.
    Unemployment 9.7%
    Hope & Change is doin its thang yo

  71. vegas raider Says:

    How was the show Dogg??

    No cameo from KK it seems. Darn it

  72. RaiderDogg Says:

    Holmgren just traded for Seneca Wallace. Who will be shown the door, Quinn or Anderson?

  73. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Only a Democrat would see a positive about 36,000 people losing their job. Its not just good its REALLY GOOD!

    “Only 36,000 Lost Their Jobs Today, which is really good”

    -Harry Reid

  74. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Who cares go to the Clev Browns blogg you twit.
    _________

    # RaiderDogg Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    Holmgren just traded for Seneca Wallace. Who will be shown the door, Quinn or Anderson?

  75. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Hope and change is a better plan than what the republicans had in ‘08, which was, “hey, the system’s worked well for me. Suck it up, whiners.” And that’s why the republican party has changed their tune and moved more toward the left economically. Reaganomics are finally as dead as Reagan is, thankfully.

  76. Seymour Bush Says:

    This is a deep draft. Especially for linemen on both sides. Our biggest needs.

  77. RaiderDogg Says:

    Vegas

    The show was excellent thanks for asking, so many women were there. It had to be at least 5 to 1 no bs. We were just kicking it in the VIP aka out back and partied until 3 am. They kicked us out so we moved the party to Nexus Studios, their recording studio in Oakland, and raged until the sun came out. I am still recovering to be honest. I got an early listen to a bunch of their new material, which is so dope. These guys are going to blow up, one way or another.

    KoolKell missed out, I was going to bring him into the VIP and buy him a drink and introduce him to some EBS groupies :)

    They will be playing in your old hood at Pine Street again on April 9th if you feel like making the trip. Did they always have a stripper pole on stage at Pine Street? The ladies looooove that sh1t, they always get up and grind during EBS. Ahhhh good times…

  78. RaiderDogg Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
    Who cares go to the Clev Browns blogg you twit.
    _________

    # RaiderDogg Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    Holmgren just traded for Seneca Wallace. Who will be shown the door, Quinn or Anderson?”

    Thanks for the intelligent response MB. You are THE MAN and obviously so quick witted. Oustanding!

  79. RaiderDogg Says:

    MB

    That was for you btw, seeing that you are the blogs only true Browns fan…

  80. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    “twit”? MB, are you Mr. Hand, from Fast Times at Ridgemont High, by any chance?

  81. Seymour Bush Says:

    Real Dancing Queen, you got run off the blog in the last debate. MistabrOwn doesn’t realize the world is round, and wack-o is so wiggety wigggety wack there is no coming back. Why would anyone spend two seconds with any of you?

  82. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Vegas,

    I think I’ve figured out what my problem is with the new posts. When I refresh the page for new comments, I never scroll all the way down past the “Submit Comment” button to see the place where new posts are listed. Apparently, I’m going to have to just refresh a few dozen times in a row and force myself to scroll all the way to the bottom each time… training it into muscle memory. I’ll treat it just like practicing Free Throws or running routes. Hopefully I’ll get it down pat before too many more bricks or missteps.

  83. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Hope and change = Communism.

    I wish we had someone like Reagan today.

  84. SteveAlford21 Says:

    If I was on the desktop instead of the laptop, this wouldn’t be an issue… I’d just be using the mouse to scroll all the way down. Using the laptop’s scroll feature on the touchpad is annoying, so I just use the down arrow until I get to the comment box.

  85. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Seymour, which debate did I get run off the blog in? The one where you insisted that Alstott and Kelly played a major role in Tampa’s ‘07 division title? Yeh, you really put me down with that one, especially considering Alstott didn’t even play in ‘07 and Kelly only played sparingly.

  86. Mistabr0wn Says:

    MR, really eh

    Reagan inherited a bigger mess than 0bama but he got us out of the mess Carter left by cutting taxes and creating millions of jobs! Who wants that!!

    Speaking of Carter, your boy 0bama is the worst Pres since Carter and will be far worse before his 4 years are up…

  87. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    We had someone like Reagan in the ‘08 election, Sweep. Sarah Palin. And Americans rejected her.

  88. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Oh RaiderKitty is gonna claim Im a Browns fan like his butt buddy Oakglen. Isnt that cute, do you lovers drink from the same sippy cup too ?

  89. vegas raider Says:

    Dogg,

    I use to go to Pine Street when I was like 6 years old as my dad was jamming on stage (I think it might have been another name at one point in time). Nothing like getting baby-sat at the bar, lol. Actually, I never have been in there since I was off-age, so I couldn’t tell you about the pole. Between the Pine Street, an old place called the Hideaway and Downtown Ollie’s, my pops was a legend in those spots.

    Best of luck to those cats, sounds like the fire is still burning for them. You should hook them cats up with Dubbsack, and vice versa. They got connects in the Valley, could help spread their wings a little. I got the guy from Dubbsack coming out here in 2 weeks for the first week of March Madness, I will spread the word a little.

    Do they have a website?

  90. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Reagan inherited a bigger mess than Obama? Based on what? Are you factoring in all economic data when making that point? How about the number of living wage jobs we had in America per capita when Reagan took over the economy vs. when Obama did? You have no basis to make the point that Reagan took over a worse economy than Obama. Back it up with a thorough analysis of both economies, not just some quotes from right wingers or one graph from Rush Limbaugh’s website. Go ahead. I’ll wait.

  91. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Sarah Palin was a B-Movie actor in the black-and-white film era?

  92. VanHeathen Says:

    Yvonne is now free to spray champagne and catch bricks w/ his grill all he wants…
    what a freakin’ joke of a signing!

  93. Mistabr0wn Says:

    MR, how bad do things have to get before acknowledge this goon is an empty suit, a socialist, a disaster like we’ve never seen before?

  94. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    We had someone like Reagan in the ‘08 election, Sweep. Sarah Palin. And Americans rejected her.
    ================================

    No they were NOT. Just because someone has a “R” next to their name doesn’t make them a conservative.

  95. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Double digit, unemployment, double digit inflation, foreign policy nightmare!

    Remember we had to buy gas on odd & even days…Jimmy Carter was the biggest joke ever until 0bama came along.

  96. Seymour Bush Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    MR, really eh

    Reagan inherited a bigger mess than 0bama
    =============================================

    See, this is preposterous. This mistabrOwn guy is SO STUPID it’s not even worth responding. He would need a baboon’s brain transplanted in him to even consider responding to this swill.

  97. RaiderDogg Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
    Oh RaiderKitty is gonna claim Im a Browns fan like his butt buddy Oakglen. Isnt that cute, do you lovers drink from the same sippy cup too ?
    =========================================
    MB

    Take a deep breath and try to settle down. I honestly thought that you were a Browns fan, self admittedly.

    I honestly don’t know why you must always come up with a feminine nickname for me. It’s quite disturbing really.

    Why so much hate anyway? Try to lighten up will ya? I am a pretty positive guy that is very happy in my life and I only wish the same for you…

  98. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Sweep, the only thing that separates Palin from Reagan is that she might have a bigger johnson.

  99. vegas raider Says:

    At this stage I would just rather rewrite the constitution and have Clinton’s in office permanately.

    Give Bill another run, pass it on to Hillary, and than whenever Chelsea is ready.

    Really could it be an worse?

  100. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Seymour, since you answer to Oakglen, we all know you’re OakGlen, why dontcha just use your name?

    And you giving props to yourself under this name is borderline Napa State Hospital material.

  101. Seymour Bush Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    Seymour, which debate did I get run off the blog in?
    =========================================

    The one where you completely melted down. As usual. You’re the Real Dancing Queen.

  102. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB, are you ever going to back up your claim that Reagan inherited a worse economy than Obama? Please do include an analysis of middle class labor, too. Per capita. Still waiting.

  103. Mistabr0wn Says:

    A Democrat resigned today because of the radical 0bama admin, he will be on Beck tomorrow. Should be very entertaining..

    :D

  104. RaiderResurrection Says:

    How about we talk about football? Who cares that both sides of aisle are liars. I hate politics

  105. HayesDaze37 Says:

    OL and LB are the two highest priority needs this team has…but there are others all over.

    Find a way to re-sign Warren on the cheap. He’s got the right attitude, and occasionally looks like a player. Paired with the right partner, he’s fine. True stuff.

    Ellis? I wish he stayed, but not if he can’t play a lot of downs, all year long. His legs aren’t 27 anymore. Neither is he.

    TE? Zach had two concussions last season. Two. GIANT RED FLAG. Another experienced pro, at the right price, is exactly what we need to look at before the Draft. Zach goes down, and?

    RB? We need an elusive banger. A powerful hitter who gives punishment more than takes it. MBush will be “all that” with the right partner in the backfield.

    FB? Who knows? We thought we had a good stable, and look how fast that changed last year. Kinda like our TE situation this year.

    WR? Need a GOOD veteran in here asap, and another one or two in the wings percolating. Even IF DHB turns it on this year…and especially since we’d like him to.

    QB? Make Grads and JaMarcus duke it out with a Jake Delhomme. Or bring me a healthy McNabb. Feels to me like Grads is gonna be the man, otherwise.

    Needs, needs, everywhere.

  106. Seymour Bush Says:

    Get the baboon brain transplant mistabrOwn. It can only help.

  107. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    OK, Seymour, your ran me off of the blog. I’m back. You’re just going to have to get past it.

  108. RaiderDogg Says:

    Vegas

    they have 2 sites:

    eastbaysick.com
    rapisajoke.com

    and they just recently posted the entire Rap Is A Joke album on youtube one song at a time. Also they are all over FB…

    check out this vid clip from Pine Street. It’s pretty dark but look closely to the left….Stripper Pole!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4GZOJKj0U8

  109. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Supporting 0bama during his campaign and first 111 days is 1 thing, albeit dumb. But to support this buffoon after a year is beyond comprehension, are you liberals really this dumb or you just cant admit a mistake ?

    MR, do you want to take this one ?

  110. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Palin is not a legitimate arguement. She isn’t smart enough to run a hot dog stand, let alone the US.

    I think she is a good person and I agree with her in principal, but don’t compare her with Reagan.

  111. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Ha ha! MB just admitted he watches Glen Beck!

  112. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Derek Anderson would be an interesting combatant in camp. Likely too expensive…

  113. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Sweep the Leg, who said anything about smarts? I compared Palin to Ronald Reagan…

  114. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB, I’ll answer that question when you answer mine about the respective economies that Reagan and Obama inherited. What was living wage earning like when Reagan took over compared to when Obama took over?

  115. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    :) dudes.. my ex girlfriend is on her way over .. im gonna grab that azz fa sho!!

  116. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Palin isnt very sharp but shes still a better option than 0bama.

    __________

    Sweep The Leg. Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    Palin is not a legitimate arguement. She isn’t smart enough to run a hot dog stand, let alone the US.

  117. vegas raider Says:

    Hey mock draft time:

    1-Campbell OT
    2-Best RB
    3a- Tebow QB
    3b- Arenas DB/KR
    4- Daryl Sharpton LB
    5,6,7- fast, faster, and fastest

    Not what I would do, but what I predict

  118. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Satan, you’re about to get laid? Alright. And, we believe you, too. Because when a woman lets you know she’s on her way over, logging onto a sports blog to talk about it is perfectly normal. Fits the profile to a ‘t’.

  119. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Any AMERICAN would be better than Barack Hussein Obama.

  120. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB, Palin was a better option than Obama? According to whom? Not the American people. Obama got 70 million votes, took the electoral college by a landslide.

  121. Seymour Bush Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 5:49 pm

    MB, I’ll answer that question when you answer mine about the respective economies that Reagan and Obama inherited.
    =================================================

    The general economy that Carter took over was in complete shambles. But of course, that was after 8 years of Richard Nixons policies which strangely mirrored the big military, war economy that Bush also perpetrated on the American people. Funny how the conservatives don’t talk about the economy that Nixon took over and the one he walked away from.

  122. Mistabr0wn Says:

    MR,

    I said who the guest is on his show. From that you come to the conclusion I watch Beck ? You can stop cackling like Hillary now it isnt that funny. Millions watch Beck..

  123. SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:

    realmaddenraider , i cant decide whos the bigger hater .. ? u or ricochet ….. she is coming over .. she said .

  124. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Sweep the leg, according to 70 million Americans on November 4th of ‘08, at least two Americans would NOT be better than Obama.

  125. Mistabr0wn Says:

    MR,
    I said she IS a better option. Can you read ? And I said it, here it is again. Maybe you are handicapped and cant read anything you cackling drama queen..

    ________

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    Palin isnt very sharp but shes still a better option than 0bama.

  126. vegas raider Says:

    God damn you William and Mary, make your FT’s!!!!

    Money is on the line here

  127. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Seymour, we still had more living wage jobs per capita when Reagan took over. Unions were much stronger then. More Americans per capita were cashing paychecks and able to afford a middle class life when Reagan took over than when Obama did.

  128. Mistabr0wn Says:

    MR, go brush up on your reading skills and quit cackling like a girl and we can resume this conv, ok ?

  129. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB, millions watch Jerry Springer, too. Probably the same people who watch Beck.

  130. Midwest Fan Says:

    Anyone think that dropping Ellis has to do with posturing pre draft? Open up the possibility of taking the top 1st or 2nd DE. Likely the #1 DE. Might be possible to trade back a few spots to someone looking hard at a DE.

    We than can take either Campbell at that point or Spoon.

  131. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB, you’re equating me to a girl, which in essence means you’re trying to pass yourself off as a man. Yeh. MB the kickass, ufc cage fighting stud. That’s definitely the image we have of you. More like Mr. Hand. “twit”.

  132. Mistabr0wn Says:

    MR,
    Millions of Liberals with no job or brains watch Springer.

    Which episode was your fav ?

  133. Seymour Bush Says:

    I’m with you Vegas Raider!

    Round One: Okung OT or McClain ILB
    Round Two: Pouncey OL or Golden Tate WR
    Round Three: Alualu DL or Lamarr Hunt DL
    Round Three (b) Gerhardt RB

  134. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Check out MR, pretending to be an actuary. Yes, it’s a real job, MR, look it up.

    Right after MR was born in the 70’s, he recalls all those gas lines for $.63 gas…viewed from his baby seat. Pretty traumatic stuff.

    Now, although he could barely afford his screenwriter’s course ($699…on sale for $599 w/coupon!), he wants you to believe he actually knows all about the economy in the ’70’s? Yeah…MR will get us out of this mess.

    NO…he just wants someone to hate on, no matter the subject. Sounds an awful lot like RickyLake. Funny how they all sound alike.

  135. Kirk Says:

    Fargas, Walker, Ellis, all gone…

    Crazy Al is finally lucid!

  136. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 5:54 pm

    Sweep the leg, according to 70 million Americans on November 4th of ‘08, at least two Americans would NOT be better than Obama.
    =====================================================

    I think it was a setup.

    I cringed as I cast my vote for the old war horse.

    By the way most people are easily led and reach for the shiny object.

    Our nation is in serious trouble.

    And I am a Libertarian, not a Republican, I hate big government, not Democrats necessarily.

  137. severeraiderz Says:

    Good news in case it hasn’t been announced Cornell signed 3 yr deal with Buffalo. No mid camp acquisition of this bum.

    Btw palin is as dumb as a bucket of shrimp, but so are most conservatives so ignorance when talking to these soft heads makes her look like a political genius, dontcha know

  138. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB, how do you know the political leanings of Jerry Springer’s audience?

  139. Kirk Says:

    Reagan and the two Bushes created 92% of the National Debt by lowering taxes for the rich.

    Go to http://www.reaganbushdebt.org/

  140. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Ha ha…a setup. Conspiracy time, folks. Grab the pop corn. Indulge us, Sweep.

  141. Seymour Bush Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    Seymour, we still had more living wage jobs per capita when Reagan took over. Unions were much stronger then. More Americans per capita were cashing paychecks and able to afford a middle class life when Reagan took over than when Obama did.
    ======================================================

    And of course most employers and/or union employees had health insurance. Now, not so much. The uninsured just all go to the county hospital. But why have any type of national insurance program? I mean, just because every other civilized nation on earth has figured it out.

  142. severeraiderz Says:

    There are so many smart republicans but they get drowned out by the nit wits, it’s sad really.

  143. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Hayez, impressive. But am I wrong about more Americans per capita having living wage jobs when Reagan took over than when Obama took over?

  144. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Even if this is true and its not. 0bama tripled our debt in 1 year. Fact!

    _________

    Kirk Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    Reagan and the two Bushes created 92% of the National Debt by lowering taxes for the rich.

  145. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    The smart republicans have gotten more liberal on economics, severeraiders. The dumb ones are still praising Bush and Reagan.

  146. Seymour Bush Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    MB, how do you know the political leanings of Jerry Springer’s audience?
    =============================================

    Now, if there is one area of expertise I will give up to mistabrOwn, he KNOWS the Jerry Springer audience. HE IS the Jerry Springer audience.

  147. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Sweep the Leg, you’re a Libertarian who likes Ronald Reagan? With Reagan’s social policies? HA HA HA. You’re funny.

  148. Seymour Bush Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    Even if this is true and its not. 0bama tripled our debt in 1 year. Fact!
    ==========================================

    This is SO PREPOSTEROUS. If Obama tripled our debt in one year, everyone in American would be wearing full length mink coats. We’ve already gone over this. We would ALL be dressed like Jamarcus you dummass.

  149. severeraiderz Says:

    It’s like limbaugh and beck are purposely trying to do away with conservatism and republicans….there answer to everyquestion is waterboard, bomb stuff, and tax cuts for the rich.

  150. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    No not a conspiracy theory, just politics.

    I just think that the Reps trotted out the old man and were all against Romney. It’s in that new book Game Changers.

    Also after 8 years of W, it was gonna be hard to get any R elected. It was a bunch of weak canidates.

    I wanted Ron Paul.

  151. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    What social policies are you referring to?

  152. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Sweep the leg, the only setup that happened in ‘08 was Cheney setting his party up to fail then and probably in a couple more presidential elections with his own greed. And, you’re cracking me up with this libertarian, Ron Paul stuff all of a sudden. A libertarian, Ron Paul guy who likes Ronald Reagan?!? HA ha ha ha! Try stand up. You’re a riot.

  153. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Reagan’s views on marijuana, for starters?

  154. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Sweep, don’t out yourself as a total rookie on politics by pretending Reagan was a social moderate. Marijuana, Christian Coalition, Meese Commission, which went after Hugh Heffner for crying out loud. No Ron Paul supporter or libertarian would ever say we need more people like Ronald Reagan. They’re the anti Reagan. I don’t know who you’re trying to fool, maybe yourself. Youre not fooling me.

  155. RaiderDogg Says:

    MR

    Have you heard about the group that is spearheading the effort to officially change the name of Mt. Diablo to Ronald Reagan Mountain?

  156. vegas raider Says:

    Kirk Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    Reagan and the two Bushes created 92% of the National Debt by lowering taxes for the rich.

    *****************************

    Look I hate Bush as much as the next person, and can’t believe we made the same mistake twice, but he lowered EVERYBODY’S tax brackets and lowered the capital gains tax which helps everybody that has a 401K or IRA.

    See for yourself

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Growth_and_Tax_Relief_Reconciliation_Act_of_2001

  157. 24 Says:

    So Javon Walker is gone? That could leave the door open for another receiver to sign with us you would think. Maybe someone like Antonio Bryant?

  158. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    I’m for personal freedom, and small government and a strong defense. Reagan fit those ideals, you never get everything you want in one guy.

    I am socially conservative, yes. Just because you want less gov doesn’t mean you don’t want laws for the societies good.

  159. vegas raider Says:

    And on a percentage of the cut, gave the biggest tax cut to the poorest tax-bracket, from 15% to 10% (a 33% reduction). The wealthy went from 39.6% to 35% (a 12% cut)

    It also created AMT, which is a tax only on the wealthy.

    He definately butchered a surplus into a deficit, but it had very little to do with tax-cuts. How about fiscal irresponsibility and the war??

  160. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    I’m not an expert on politics for sure.

    I don’t really have a party that represents everything I believe. I like the Libertarian view of just let me live my life without the govs control.

    I know that if you take that view all the way then there are no laws.

  161. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Sweep, what do you mean when you say Reagan stood for personal freedom? His stance on casual drug use? Which was to lock users up? His stance on marijuana, which is that it is as dangerous as crack? His stance on adult entertainment, even as soft core as Playboy, which was that it was as much of a danger as the Soviet Empire? Just what do you mean by Reagan being for personal freedom? Freedom to choose your own Christian church, and that’s about it.

  162. HayesDaze37 Says:

    MR — I really don’t want to spend time on economics 101, using poll numbers that are as fishy as the posters on this forum, to debate how people have screwed up all these years now.

    Try not to bait so much, MR…it makes you seem less intelligent than you already do. Cite where you get your “facts” from, and we’ll all understand the point you’re making…and it might actually put validity to something you say, for once.

    Proof MR has no idea of what he is speaking:
    “The smart republicans have gotten more liberal on economics, severeraiders. The dumb ones are still praising Bush and Reagan.”

    Ummm…NO “smart Republican” would ever get more liberal on economics. Whatever that broad term means. The new Repub party isn’t old-school Repub at all. They just talk like it.

    What exactly is a smart Repub (or Dem) anyway? Some would have us believe one cannot be smart, while pledging blind allegience to just one political party. Valid point, that.

    Let’s get back to football talk…oh, wait…nobody was talking football.

  163. vegas raider Says:

    And BTW, the “tax cuts for the rich” was voted down by McCain and super-lib Dianne Feinstein supported it.

    http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=1&vote=00170

  164. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Sweep the leg, obviously you’re not an expert on politics. Nor do you even know the first thing about politics. You said Reagan is for personal freedom. Might be the craziest thing I’ve ever heard anyone say in a political conversation. Reagan was a staunch social conservative. A libertarian is a social liberal, period. Socially liberal, fiscally conservative. That is the libertarian philosophy. Yes, you are no expert at politics. It’s obvious.

  165. 24 Says:

    The Bills signed Cornell Green…THANK GOD! Its funny that the Bills signed Langston Walker to a huge contract after the Raiders as well. They must like our RT’s or something.

  166. SteveAlford21 Says:

    I really hate it when politics gets discussed on a football blog. I’m sorely tempted to tell some of my exes to register here and discuss random stupid s-h-i-t when you guys are in the mood for football. I wonder how many of you would be telling them to take it to a fashion blog or makeup blog or whatever. I guess it will actually have to happen in order for you people to understand what it’s like to come to a place (a football blog) to discuss something (football) that is the reason for which the blog was designed… and instead have line after line after line or non-sequitur CRAP being put up on the screen. Turnabout is fair play, ya know.

    Please go to a political blog to discuss politics, fellas… PLEASE.

  167. KoolKell Says:

    The War was kept off the official budget during the Bush years.

    That was taken into the plus-minus arithmetic until Obama had thee integrity to do so on his watch.

  168. vegas raider Says:

    Well I better stop before KoolKell logs on and calls me “disingenuous”

  169. vegas raider Says:

    Damn, what timing.

  170. KoolKell Says:

    Bush’s budget calculations did not ever include the 2 Wars he started.

    Obama, manned up and put the cost of the War on the books.

  171. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    It’s not our fault politics is more interesting than Matt Shaughnessy.

  172. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Reagan = D.A.R.E.

    Reagan = Just say No

    ——————-

    DARE to Just Say No to the haters! The Raiders haters!

    It’s great night to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?

  173. Seymour Bush Says:

    Where did mistabrOwn go? Did Jerry Springer need some brain dead hick audience member?

  174. SteveAlford21 Says:

    You say that NOW… but just you wait 25 years… when Matt Shaughnessy is president.

  175. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    RMR

    When I think of personal freedom I am comparing it to what I see happening now with the governments hand in everything.

    He was in favor of smaller government and things sure have changed.

    You might be right about how I define my terms.

    I am socially and fiscally conservative, but I don’t want the government telling me how i should do everything.

    I like Reagan, he was a great leader in my opinion. I agree with him on the issues you brought up.

  176. D-FOLKS Says:

    Don’t forget Reagan + Bush sr = Noreaga

  177. vegas raider Says:

    Kool,

    Not saying your right or wrong, but I have never heard of that, and can’t find anything on the internet to support your claim.

    A link may persuade me. If not, I’m not buying that a democratic congress allowed that on their watch from 2006 on.

  178. severeraiderz Says:

    Mock Draft

    rd 1- R. Mcclain ILB
    rd 2- V. Ducasse OT/OG
    rd 3- T. Gerhart RB/FB
    rd 3- C. Cook CB
    rd 4- M. Petrus OG
    rd 5- J. Ross DT
    rd 6- T. Holliday KR
    rd 7- best athlete available

  179. KoolKell Says:

    What freedoms are being taken away from you, Leg?

  180. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    You are right Steve, I quit.

    45 days until the draft!

  181. vegas raider Says:

    HayesDaze37 Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    It’s great night to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?

    ****************************

    Cornell Green nearly sent to Canada, Jovan Walker given a pink slip, and Bruce more set than ever to take the reigns??

    Hell fckn yes!!!!!!!!!!!!

  182. HayesDaze37 Says:

    KK — Politics is definitely NOT more exciting than Matt Shaughnessy. Shaughney looks like the real deal…a real find, to only keep getting better. One of the best young Raiders D-line prospects in a long, long, time.

    You just hate talking about anything positive that Al Davis brought to the table. Matt S. is one major positive.

    To paraphrase your favorite person, KK — “Get over it. Matt’s a great playuh.”

    It most certainly IS a great night to be a Raiders fan!

    Isn’t it?

  183. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    KK see post 175.

  184. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Thank you, Sweep. I knew that my one-man campaign would eventually gain support. This is how you change the system: speak reason and truth… and threaten to poke people in the eye if they don’t do as you wish.

  185. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    RMR, Reagan had the government’s hand in our social lives. Get that through your head. He vilified pot. Vowed to throw dealers and users in jail forever. Same for casual users of other drugs. Gave Hugh Hefner a stroke trying to crack Playboy to make a statement. Look up the Meese Commission. Just stop talking about it. You reveal yourself to know less and less about Ronald Reagan, libertarianism, and Ron Paul every time you talk about it.

  186. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    It hasn’t been a great night to be a Raider fan since January of 2002.

  187. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Alright, 185 was directed to Seep the Leg, not “RMR”, which is me, btw.

  188. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    I always hate the politic rants, I got sucked in.

  189. HayesDaze37 Says:

    KK — I sincerely apologize for confusing you with MR there. I didn’t mean it.

    Frankly, not sure who should be offended more, MR or KK! They’re both such friendly types!!

    Raider On, boys, girls, and tweeners!

  190. vegas raider Says:

    I took a step back from ordering my 50th anniversary white Bruce jersey.

    Going wait to see if he makes it through camp healthy.

    My last 5 jerseys I bought, Jamarcus, Sapp, Moss, C-Wood and Jeff George.

    Don’t want to curse my man Grads just yet.

  191. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    The thought of being unliked by Davis worshipers for some reason doesn’t get to me, Hayez.

  192. D-FOLKS Says:

    Noreaga was on the CIA payroll From the 60’s until the mid 80’s

  193. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You hate getting exposed for knowing absolutely nothing, Sweep the Leg, is what you hate. You were fine with discussing politics until that. You came on here saying we need someone like Ronald Reagan, then you called yourself a libertarian and a Ron Paul supporter. Ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!

  194. severeraiderz Says:

    A link may persuade me. If not, I’m not buying that a democratic congress allowed that on their watch from 2006 on.
    ……………………
    You mean the same one that allowed the wars, the tax cuts, and the patriot act? Don’t make me laugh

  195. KoolKell Says:

    Vegas

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/promise/161/end-the-abuse-of-supplemental-budgets-for-war/

    Supplemental Budgets

  196. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Rmr, you are right I am not an expert but I am not a fool.

    I said i may have not defined my terms correctly, but what i said was not untrue.

    If the gov took all the pot and smut away it wouldn’t affect me cause I don’t have any.

    If they go after my guns and want to choose my doctor then it does. I guess it is all perspective.

  197. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    OK done.

  198. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Saying we need another Reagan, then saying you’re a libertarian or a Ron Paul supporter is like saying you’re a Jew, then saying you’re a Muslim. Reagan’s social policies made libertarians puke, and still do.

  199. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Sweep, you were done long ago.

  200. Midwest Fan Says:

    Hey severe you seem interested in talking draft / acutal raider stuff. Think Morgan or Pierre-Paul would be there at 8 and worth a trade up for some other team, what ya think?

  201. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Sweep got swept.

  202. KoolKell Says:

    Leg,

    The “small government” retort seems to be another empty Pavlovian reflex with no exact meaning.

  203. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    On November 20, 2008 Ron Paul said in a New York Times / Freakonomics interview:

    “[...] the federal war on drugs has proven costly and ineffective, while creating terrible violent crime. But if you question policy, you are accused of being pro-drug. That is preposterous. As a physician, father, and grandfather, I abhor drugs. I just know that there is a better way — through local laws, communities, churches, and families — to combat the very serious problem of drug abuse than a massive federal-government bureaucracy.”

  204. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Suck on that.

  205. D-FOLKS Says:

    www-personal.umich.edu/~lormand/poli/soa/panama.htm

  206. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Oh, I thought you were done for the night? Evidently you decided to google some of Pauls quotes on Reagan social policies before turning in. And all you came up with is a quote of Pauls that reveals nothing more than him not liking drugs personally. He still says that government shouldn’t ban drugs. Reagan believed the polar opposite. I told you long ago to quit before you embarrassed yourself any further. You obviously didn’t take my advice.

  207. severeraiderz Says:

    Most dems are so worried about pleasing a section of the country that will never be happy that they try to play it both ways and get nothing, just loook at healthcare.

  208. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    SeverRaider, health care didn’t pass because of conservative democrats never being for it in the first place.

  209. KoolKell Says:

    Yeah Obama tripled the size of the deficit, he put the cost of the Wars on it, for the first time, ok?

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/promise/161/end-the-abuse-of-supplemental-budgets-for-war/

  210. vegas raider Says:

    KK,

    Not the most un-baised of links, but it did help me know where to locate some facts on the matter.

    Yes, it appears that PARTS of the cost of the war were put onto supplemental budgets. For that, you are correct.

    But Gates’ quote from your link, speaks of only parts of the costs. 100% costs of the war were not all deferred and “hidden”.

    You’ve moved my meter only slightly.

  211. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    You can’t have it both ways.

    I never said I agree with everything he did, GEEEZ.

    I even conceded I may have not defined my terms properly, but you have to win … so you win…enjoy it.

  212. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Vegas Raider, you’re either a Bush supporter or you’re baiting. Which is it?

  213. severeraiderz Says:

    Midwest Fan

    Doubt if a team would trade up for either with Pierr-Paul, Griffen, Morgan, and Dunlap all likely mid first rounders they would have to find one to be much more talented than the rest to do that.

    Who do u like Spikes, or McClain, or some other option at MLB I think it’s obvious who I like lol

  214. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Sweep, you said we need another Ronald Reagan. Then you said you’re a Ron Paul supporter. On social policy, Ron Paul agrees with Reagan on just about NOTHING. Read Paul’s quote again, since you pulled it up. He said he doesn’t believe in the government forming agencies to enforce drug laws. You’re going to keep embarrassing yourself, aren’t you?

  215. KoolKell Says:

    Beck n’ Limbaugh brainwash wage slaves to hate other slave wagers, hate unions, hate education, to keep wages down. YOUR wages, fools.

  216. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    They agree in principal not in application. Read it again yourself.

  217. severeraiderz Says:

    Rmr

    but if we would have started the debate arguing for a single payer system and worked our way back we could have at least kept a semistrong public option on the table. It has been my opinion since the beginning to force a public option through reconciliation and flip the bird to the repubs and the blue dogs

  218. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You said Reagan didn’t believe in government interfering with our lives. Ron Paul really didn’t. Read your own quote. Reagan? He sure as hell did, on the other hand. He would have had no problem spending our last tax dollar putting a marijuana user away.

  219. Midwest Fan Says:

    I actually like Spoon the best out of all the highly rated backers. That’s why I’m trying to figure trade back scenarios so I feel slightly better about taking him than I would at 8. Either him or Trent Williams. Would take Pouncey in the 2nd if there or Vlad Ducasse I’ve become a fan of. Think he would be our starting RG. He’s a tackle prospect but can be inserted in at guard to start since he’s still raw. I’ll try to find a desc of him to post.

  220. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    severe,

    conservative dems were never for any form of public health care, never will be. That’s what snagged up health care. It’s something every dem administration is going to push toward. It’s not going to happen yet. Someday it will.

  221. severeraiderz Says:

    What are the chances Kyle Wilson falls to the second and we take him even after paying CJ and Routt more than they deserve???

  222. Midwest Fan Says:

    02/24/2010 – 2010 NFL DRAFT SCOUT PRE-COMBINE TOP 64: 51. Vladimir Ducasse ??? T, Massachusetts, 6-5, 326, 2: There is little doubt Ducasse has rare size and skills, but there is no consensus on where his talent might be best used in pro football. At the Senior Bowl, scouts delighted in watching him line up at all of the offensive line positions and then even take a shot on the defensive side. His natural strength and athletic ability give him tremendous upside. – Frank Cooney, USA TODAY/NFL Draft Scout

  223. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    The economy overall is going to be the big issue in November of this year, in ‘12, and probably in ‘14 too. Health care is not going to sink Obama. Allowing Republicans to hone economic reform will. Republicans have moved to the left economically since ‘08, and Obama is paying for it because he himself has become too chummy with the rich. Americans do not trust people with money right now. Tell me every single election since ‘06 hasn’t been based on that sentiment.

  224. severeraiderz Says:

    Midwest
    check post 178, i’ve been in the Ducasse bandwagon for a while now and think he could develop into a legit player at either tackle spot. I agree I would give him a chance to compete a Rt first though and if he fails to beat out Barnes stick him at RG over Cooper

  225. Midwest Fan Says:

    I like Wilson but I agree after paying CJ & Routt I don’t think we’ll take another CB that high. O and I both like Thurmond out of OR for CB depth. Gonna drop due to injury but is a true playmaker. Thinking around the late 5 range or if we end up with a 6th at any point maybe there.

  226. Midwest Fan Says:

    I just meant put him in at G if we take a tackle at 8. If we go a different direction at 8 than I think Ducasse would prob start at RT.

    I just think baring trading spots the value at 8 and 40 will be at the tackle position. A athletic guy like Ducasse could back up several different positions if he needed bringing along.

    Than use the round 3 picks for a LB & NT.

    I also like Houston in the second if not Ducasse or Pouncey.

  227. vegas raider Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
    Vegas Raider, you’re either a Bush supporter or you’re baiting. Which is it?

    **********************

    I hate Dick more so, but not a fan what-so-ever.

    I just hate the whole “tax cuts for the rich” talk. Every tax bracket was cut, cap gains was cut, and AMT was created.

    Those are facts, and I am a facts and statistics driven guy.

  228. severeraiderz Says:

    Rmr

    So you don’t believe that we will get healthcare insurance reform during this admin or do u just doubt that we will get universal healthcare or a public option during this admin???

  229. severeraiderz Says:

    Midwest

    I have felt strongly about few players in recent drafts I loved Calvin Johnson and wanted him over Russell, I loved AD and wanted him over Russell, I loved Clady and had him 1a and Mcfadden 1b (so far wrong on this one), I loved CJ, the rb, and wanted him in the second had we not taken D-Mac, and I believe there is no player more special in this draft than McClain. If we pass on him I think it would be a grave mistake because Denver would take him and make us pay. Only player I would take over him is Suh and maybe Okung.

  230. vegas raider Says:

    I think the public option should be the last option.

    What happened to reform?

    -Tort reform will lower doctor costs, which will lower insurance premiums.

    -Removing restrictions for buying prescriptions internationally will drive competition and lower insurance premiums.

    -More oversight to remove fraud and waster from medicare will lower Medicare costs for our seniors.

    -Expand coverage to those 17 and under, will help our youth stay healthier and be less costly as they get older.

    -Increase funding for the VA, because they deserve better than what they have. I have signed up so many VA patients for my Medicare company, because the VA is inadequate for their needs.

    -Allow people, especially those with chronic conditions, to access their medicare at an age prior to 65.

    Why can’t we start with this and some other ideas? Change the whole system for 10% of the population that is uninsured? No way. Create more jobs and that will decrease the uninsured in the first place.

  231. vegas raider Says:

    All right I’m done.

  232. Midwest Fan Says:

    I was high on McClain as well. Makes me skeptical though when he doesn’t work out at the combine at all.

    Showed up, did the interviews, and than just hung around not doing any of the drills.

    His pro day will be real interesting. If impressive, I say take him, otherwise I’d stay away if only marginal regardless of his tape. He was also playing behind Cody which does make a difference. I know that’ll bring out all the pro DT at 8 guys but just don’t see the value there assuming top 2 guys are gone. Just my opinion.

  233. priesttj Says:

    Matt S had to start he is coming off an injury in cllege and he’s ready to play to the level he once did. This kid is going to be a star in this league when his explosion returns. He is so stout at the point he can play all 3 downs as a base end and rush end.

    I also think J Rich is finally ready to grow up. We can get a open end edge rusher this draft is full of them. Or in FA also I don’t think enough of you give Routt the credit he deserves yes he gets beat. There are only a few corners in this league that don’t. But the kid can cover and there is a real shortage of players that can play bump-n-run, well he can. Routt is much better than most teams entire starting backfield. Take a look at Pittsburgh, Tampa, Detroit, 49ers and several others. He would be the #1 cover corner on all those teams.

    Just because Jerry doesn’t know it and neither do you doesn’t mean it’s not true. I believe the Jets were after him as well as some other teams. a couple of which I already mentioned.

    I also believe we will be looking for a HB in the draft, Gerhardt or one of those scatbacks. My hope is that we’ll get the line fixed first.

  234. vegas raider Says:

    Thurmond would be a good pick in the later rounds, but he needs a good pro-day to help him out.

    With his injuries, hurt two years in a row and 3 torn ligaments in his knee, he is too much of a risk for any type of early draft pick.

    And with his injury history, you can’t have him returning kicks because he has shown he can’t hold out.

    Javier Arenas is the best KR in the draft, and maybe the best nickle DB in the draft. Mayock loves him, and he had 8 sacks and 8 ints last year.

  235. Seymour Bush Says:

    # vegas raider Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
    Vegas Raider, you’re either a Bush supporter or you’re baiting. Which is it?

    **********************

    I hate Dick more so, but not a fan what-so-ever.

    I just hate the whole “tax cuts for the rich” talk. Every tax bracket was cut, cap gains was cut, and AMT was created.

    Those are facts, and I am a facts and statistics driven guy.
    ==============================================

    Actually the stats you gave before are erroneous. Per Smart Money magazine which can hardly be called a liberal communique, the 10 and 15% tax rates remained the same.
    27% went to 25%
    30% went to 28%
    35% went to 33%
    38.6% went to 35%

    So, basically the poorest earners got no break and the highest breaks went to the highest earners. This is really indisputable.

  236. RaiderRon Says:

    I actually agree that Routte is better than given credit for. Not sure about 1 an 3 tender good but better. He takes a ton of heat and he is nowhere near the problem on D.

  237. Seymour Bush Says:

    The odd guy out in all of this, who really played pretty well late in the season was Jay Richardson. He quietly had a pretty solid season.

  238. vegas raider Says:

    Priest,

    I honestly think Matt S was our best D-liner at times last year. Very disciplined and pursues extremely way from the backside or whatever you call it. Played like a vet at times for a rookie (Ellis probably deserves some credit for that)

    But we are going to have to disagree on Routt. On the outside, he is servicable and decent at times. In the slot, he is awful.

  239. Norco Bob Says:

    Priest, Im calling Gary, bright and early, bout 9:06…going to pour ice water on the big Russell and his stint in Arizona rehab for booze and cough syrup,…I will settle down the media on the dang story,..and I will give you a shout out brother. Word.

  240. vegas raider Says:

    Seymour,

    Link from wikipedia with references to the IRS website if you want to sift through it. And cap gains was lowered, which helps every person with a 401K or IRA, not to mention property owners.

    These are facts.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Growth_and_Tax_Relief_Reconciliation_Act_of_2001

  241. Norco Bob Says:

    Priest, I feel you should thank me on Garys show for gettin ya back in. Hey now.

  242. Midwest Fan Says:

    I agree with you vegas though I haven’t seen much film on Arenas. Not sure though with where he’ll be taken that he would provide the best value for us at that spot. I think he’ll probably be a mid 2nd to early 3rd selection. I would go in a different direction in that area IMO. That’s why I was leaning on Thurmond. Could also get the Bush treatment and have a redshirt year while he rehabs completely.

  243. Norco Bob Says:

    Thank you Vegas for that riveting link,..however I dont click on links here,..is it about Russell in rehab?

  244. vegas raider Says:

    I think you are looking at this legislation which was passed after the act I referenced.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_and_Growth_Tax_Relief_Reconciliation_Act_of_2003

  245. vegas raider Says:

    No….way over your head Bob don’t worry about it.

  246. RaiderNsuede Says:

    Haha the Bills Signed Cornell Green to a 3yr 9mil dollar contract!

  247. Norco Bob Says:

    Oh come on man, if its about rehab, I can relate bro.

  248. vegas raider Says:

    Midwest,

    It all depends on what we do in the first, but as much as I like Arenas, I think you have to take him if he is there in the 3rd, but probably pass in the second.

    I would love:

    1-Mclain, Spikes or Dan Williams
    2-Pouncey or another G
    3-Arenas
    3b- Daryl Sharpton or Washington if we go Dan Williams in the first.

    Whatever the case, no Bruce Campbell in the first, and although a big Cal homer, no Javhid Best in the second.

  249. priesttj Says:

    Vegas, aweful? are you crazy??? aweful? he gives up plays at times yeah butt aweful. That’s exactly what I mean about some of you. That is a stupid comment.

    Use your brain and looka ta the stats against Routt in the slot. How many TD’s did he give up what was the Raiders pass defense rated and don’t give me that stupid crap Jerry posted. This is a passing league and we don’t have a great pass rush we dod it with coverage. CJ gave up a lot more plays than Routt. And CJ played well at times bad at thers but these coaches look at film and it doesn’t lie. It’s 3 times more valuable than stats. The 1st and 3rd were IMO more of a poison pill than an actual value rating. They knew they couldn’t lose Routt.

  250. Seymour Bush Says:

    # vegas raider Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    I think you are looking at this legislation which was passed after the act I referenced.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_and_Growth_Tax_Relief_Reconciliation_Act_of_2003
    =====================================================

    This is the one I was referencing. Sorry for the confusion.

  251. Norco Bob Says:

    Vegas,…you arent really thinking about the 3rd round in the draft at the end of April are you?…and you live in Vegas?…omg.

  252. VanHeathen Says:

    JR in ReHab???
    thought he was working w/ a pro trainer to get him into shape…does it ever end w/ this kid?

  253. Norco Bob Says:

    Sorry Van,..the truth came out,..hes in rehab,..booze and promethazine…(cough syrup). Hey now.

  254. Seymour Bush Says:

    priesttj Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    Vegas, aweful? are you crazy??? aweful? he gives up plays at times yeah butt aweful. That’s exactly what I mean about some of you. That is a stupid comment.
    =======================================

    I have to go with Vegas Raider on this one. Routt was awful last year. In addition to countless penalties and big plays given up at the most inopportune times, if you remember him coming on blitzes and guys running open in the 2ndary for big plays, those were not called blitzes. That was Routt “improvising.” In coach speak, that is when they say players are playing selfishly.

  255. RaiderDogg Says:

    JR is being treated for Lethargy Addiction. I didn’t know that being damn lazy was considered an addiction…

  256. vegas raider Says:

    I am Bob, going to city center this weekend for my anniversary and will do it real big.

    But tonight I am hanging with, as you would call it,
    “all my dear friends”. And I talk draft.

  257. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    The Bills gave Langston Walker a pile of cash too.

  258. Norco Bob Says:

    Draft and politics,..2 subjects that you and the rest in here no nothing about. Keepin it real.

  259. RaiderDogg Says:

    Bob

    JR has been sipping on the sizzurb?

  260. Norco Bob Says:

    Iv never had the flu…ever. Hey now.

  261. SteveAlford21 Says:

    I haven’t slept in 36 hours, so I could be misremembering this… but wasn’t it Routt who was hailed last season for making such a “heads-up” play by horsecollaring a WR to prevent the TD… after he was the one who let the WR get the big gain in the first place? Please tell me if I’m wrong.

  262. vegas raider Says:

    Priest,

    Routt gets picked on when he is in the slot. He had more penalties than CJ and Nmamdi, and isn’t on the field as much.

    I don’t do the name-calling, but I believe Routt was our biggest liability on 3rd down. You can call me stupid, that’s how I feel.

  263. Norco Bob Says:

    Routt is the man,..our best db,..period.

  264. Norco Bob Says:

    Priest,..are you aware I can get you banned from Garys show?…again?…you need to publicly, on the air, thank Norco Bob for getting you back in. Keepin it real.

  265. DKnight007 Says:

    # vegas raider Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 7:20 pm

    I think the public option should be the last option.

    What happened to reform?

    -Tort reform will lower doctor costs, which will lower insurance premiums.

    -Removing restrictions for buying prescriptions internationally will drive competition and lower insurance premiums.

    -More oversight to remove fraud and waster from medicare will lower Medicare costs for our seniors.

    -Expand coverage to those 17 and under, will help our youth stay healthier and be less costly as they get older.

    -Increase funding for the VA, because they deserve better than what they have. I have signed up so many VA patients for my Medicare company, because the VA is inadequate for their needs.

    -Allow people, especially those with chronic conditions, to access their medicare at an age prior to 65.

    Why can’t we start with this and some other ideas? Change the whole system for 10% of the population that is uninsured? No way. Create more jobs and that will decrease the uninsured in the first place.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Can’t reform (which is needed by the way) the system when GREEDY POS RICH Politicians, Lobbyists and pharmaceautical companies have been getting rich of this for years.

    Those people against a Universal Health Care Reform system are just plain and simply either greedy or just plain dumb.

  266. Norco Bob Says:

    By the way, opening night in Oakland,..A`s vs M`s…I will have big tailgate,..all you “people” invited…A lot.

  267. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Bob,

    If “db” is your way of saying “defensive buffoon,” then yes… Routt is our best db.

  268. Norco Bob Says:

    dknight,..shut up loser.

  269. priesttj Says:

    I’ve seen everyone in here say that Green was the worse OT in the NFL. Now watch all of you lie and say you didn’t. I bet our favorite blind prognosticator SnB predicted if he weren’t here he wouldn’t even be in the league.

    All of make suck comments about something you know nothing about. Whgat the rest of the league thinks what Al Davis thinks and so on. You laughed when Al Gave D Hall a ton of money saying NO ONE would do that except the stupid old man. Only to watch The Redskins do the same damn thing. Now Fargas is getting offers from several teams a player most of you said was straight garbage but he’ll sign with another team soon. But he was on scholarship here.

    You’re just a bunch of loud mouth idiots playing grabass.

  270. Norco Bob Says:

    brian and I were praying nnnbbbmmdai was goin to the Jets, but they wanted Cromartie more,..of course.

  271. VanHeathen Says:

    so instead of working on his 5 and 7 step drop,
    JR is working on a 12 step program…
    Freakin’ Brilliant!

  272. DKnight007 Says:

    # Midwest Fan Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 6:57 pm

    I actually like Spoon the best out of all the highly rated backers. That’s why I’m trying to figure trade back scenarios so I feel slightly better about taking him than I would at 8. Either him or Trent Williams. Would take Pouncey in the 2nd if there or Vlad Ducasse I’ve become a fan of. Think he would be our starting RG. He’s a tackle prospect but can be inserted in at guard to start since he’s still raw. I’ll try to find a desc of him to post.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    LB Sean Weatherspoon needs to be a Raider!!

  273. severeraiderz Says:

    Vegas

    Doubt we take Arenas, he is only 5′9″ I believe and doesn’t time well. Kyle Wilson would be the pick if we take a corner in the second because of his speed, super fluid hips, and return ability. Patrick Robinson is also super fast, has great size, and has the Florida st pedigree. If we wait til the 3rd we can take Chris Cook who is 6′2″ 212lbs and ran a 4.45

  274. Norco Bob Says:

    Priest, I want LT here,..do you?

  275. RaiderDogg Says:

    Bob

    Didn’t see Brian on Saturday, I thought he was coming through.

  276. Norco Bob Says:

    Oh please,..none of you really believed he was in some gym in Az did you?…lol

  277. Norco Bob Says:

    brian said he want to some international bash in SF.

  278. Norco Bob Says:

    He said there were babes from all over the world there,..was at same time as that rap gig of yours.

  279. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Dogg, there is no way you can be surprised that Krappy didn’t show up at the east bay suck show.

    That old wack job has an expiration date of 6:30 every night.

    That’s when his creepy old lady straps him into his therapeutic mattress.

    Dudes, you’re not going to believe it, but a certain Hollywood actress I macked on at an Oscar afterparty last night – all I’m going to say is her initials are Jennifer A – just invited me on a primo Reggae Boat cruise tomorrow night.

    So my problem is – should I wear my alien costume or my fire red silk bathrobe?

    Don’t worry, I’ve already got a case of Dom Perignon in the trunk of my Hummer limo.

  280. severeraiderz Says:

    In Norcos defense Routt and several of the former coaches have said that he is uncomfortable playing in the slot and is better suited on the outside.

  281. Norco Bob Says:

    I dont need anyone to defend me,..especially in here. lol

  282. Norco Bob Says:

    But thanks. :)

  283. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Witherspoon was the LB that took control at the Senior bowl wasn’t he?

    Can’t teach that.

  284. vegas raider Says:

    Am I banned??

    What the hell is happening

  285. vegas raider Says:

    Oh yeah, you can’t type B’s name (weird)

    Bob,

    Ask him and he will tell you that I knew about Russell before he did.

    Jamarcus and I have a mutual friend, no BS.

  286. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Vegas, you are driven by stats and facts? Give me some facts on some things Republicans have failed at, Democrats have succeeded at, Al Davis has failed at, Lane Kiffin and Jon Gruden have succeeded at, and I’ll believe you’re driven by facts.

  287. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Vegas,

    In a nutshell (if you know) what makes JR tick?

    Does he really want to be great?

  288. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dubbsack!!!!!!!!!

  289. DMAC Says:

    Cornbread is finally gone!!!!!!!

  290. DKnight007 Says:

    # Sweep The Leg. Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    Witherspoon was the LB that took control at the Senior bowl wasn’t he?

    Can’t teach that.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Sure was….and he is a freakin BEAST who can do it all!

    I rank him ahead of McClain right now as the best OVERALL LB in the draft.

    The teams in the middle to late 1st Round are praying he falls to them…..especially the Fins, Steelers, Ravens, Pats, Philly, Dallas….you know the good teams looking to get better!

  291. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    It would be cool if Witherspoon make it to us in the 2nd.

  292. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Bob,

    Do the people who criticize you and me for our drug and alcohol usage have any idea how many of their heroes made our habits look miniscule? Are they aware that the greatest minds or all ages were almost constantly on altering substances? The great authors, poets, philosophers, and other gods among men were all “junkies” by the popular definition. It’s too bad that most people only talk about those things when they want an excuse for someone “falling off” or losing their touch… conveniently forgetting the decades of brilliance that accompanied daily indulgences.

    You people seriously need some drugs… and not those screwed-up mood enhancers that your shrinks give you… I’m talking liquor, weed, and opiates here.

  293. SteveAlford21 Says:

    I meant greatest minds “OF” all ages… not “or.” Mea Culpa.

  294. SteveAlford21 Says:

    There’s one caveat there, though: If you can’t handle your liquor or are a mean drunk… lay off the sauce, please. Thank you in advance from all the rest of us.

  295. Senior Beeecham Says:

    It’s MR, The Cowardly Blogger!

    Hey you freaky old sissy, did you tattletale on anyone in the blog today?

    You know, write a letter to Jerry instead of having the courage to confront that person – ahem, a nameless, faceless blogger – yourself?

    Don’t worry, MRTCB, no one thinks you’re a pathetic little puss.

    You believe that, right?

  296. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    You know what, I like you Steve.

    You need to take a nap though, buddy.

  297. vegas raider Says:

    Sweep,

    My buddy is not much of a sports fan, so they never really talk football.

    I can tell you that the guy has a massive house, a room specifically made for an exercise room, and doesn’t have one piece of exercise equiptment. Not even a cheap bench press or a treadmill.

  298. severeraiderz Says:

    Dknight007

    you are outside of your mind, it’s not even a competition for best LB in the draft. McClain was the best player on the best defense and his presence elevated that group, he has the intangibles, great size, good speed, can play outside and inside, and is a good leader. He will blow teams away at his workout. Spoon IMO is the second best and I have him ahead of Spikes at this point.

  299. Norco Bob Says:

    Sorry dear friends, had to walk the showdogs….by the way Priest, tune in tomorrow, early,..I will give you a shout out.

  300. Norco Bob Says:

    Sorry vegas, but I doubt you get anything before brian…however out of fairness, I will send him a text and ask him.

  301. Norco Bob Says:

    MR!…sorry man, didnt see ya,..how you doing bro? :)

  302. Norco Bob Says:

    (I hope this is a night MR likes me and doesnt hate me,..I never know really which MR Im getting) ……….. *fingers crossed*

  303. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    So Vegas you are saying he is lazy?

    Breaking news…Breaking news.

  304. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    He is on the warpath tonight Norco.

    He pwned me.

  305. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Sweep,

    Thanks. As for my sleep… Dave is finishing up the last tattoo of the night as we speak… so I will be leaving the shop and heading home soon. After being awake so long, I’ll either sleep for a very long time… or wake up after half an hour and not be able to fall back asleep again. Here’s hoping it’s the former. I think I’ll eat the next one instead of snorting it… try to ensure some sleep. Yes, that’s right… I’m going to use medicine to MEDICATE! Someone take a screenshot, you’re not likely to see this again for a while. :D

  306. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Steve,

    You are one of a kind.

    Rest up and engage later.

  307. DKnight007 Says:

    # severeraiderz Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    Dknight007

    you are outside of your mind, it’s not even a competition for best LB in the draft. McClain was the best player on the best defense and his presence elevated that group, he has the intangibles, great size, good speed, can play outside and inside, and is a good leader. He will blow teams away at his workout. Spoon IMO is the second best and I have him ahead of Spikes at this point.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Outside of my mind huh?

    Hmm….just like when I said two months ago that after the combine and pro days and come draft time DT Dan Williams will be rated higher than the slob Terrance Cody?

    Some of the goofballs in here were screaming that they wanted Cody with the 8th overall pick and I said I would rather have Dan Williams and now look where the rankings are.

    Don’t get be wrong…I love McClain but I have a feeling Weatherspoon will end up being a more productive player over the long haul then McClain IMO…depending on what system they end up again of course.

  308. Norco Bob Says:

    dknight, its obvious to everyone in here you are considered the dumbest of the bloggers,…get things last, usually real inaccurate,…now it seems that you were one of the ones fooled into believing that story of russell in an Az gym,..lol,…the part of the story had the state right,..but hes in a rehab,..dknight, you really are an idiot. Word.

  309. RaiderRon Says:

    Oh and now Priest claims to have known about Russell and his problem all along. LOL! Dude has got to be mentally handicapped.

  310. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Bob!

    While you were walking the hellhounds, I asked you a question. Please give me some feedback regarding Post #300 so I can know your thoughts on it before I head out for the night. Thank you, sir.

  311. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Ron,

    Yes, it’s hilarious that Priest has used every excuse conceivable to defend JR all this time EXCEPT “he has a substance addiction and abuse problem that is totally understandable and normal given the situation.” The best excuse possible for JR was there all this time and he wants us to believe that he’s known it all along and said nothing? I love how whenever something is made PUBLIC, he says “Well duh, I’ve known this all along.” My question is this: where are the insights BEFORE they are made public? If you’re so well-connected and have secret access, private meetings, and inside information… then why do you never “know” anything until everyone else does, too?

    LMFAO @ poor, delusional TJ. I bet he actually BELIEVES that he’s friends with Al and that he has worked with the greatest coaches, scouts, and players in the history of the game. TJ is the scariest part of pathological liar… the kind who buys their own product.

  312. SteveAlford21 Says:

    I meant “scariest KIND of pathologial liar” there. Damn sleep deprivation!

  313. Norco Bob Says:

    Even though my row 1 powers told me he will make huge comeback,..I have a rock solid source that has told me theres no way he makes it out of Napa on the Raider roster. Oh well.

  314. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Bob,

    Shut up, you damned dirty hippy. Go take a shower, you filthy dissident.

    JUST KIDDING! :D I agree with you completely… I just don’t like smoking weed because of how it makes ME feel these days… but I’d rather be around someone who smoked a couple of j’s or an owl than be around someone who just killed a couple of sixers. Then again, I hate beer and beer-drinkers regardless. A ROUND OF JAMESON FOR ALL!

  315. priesttj Says:

    Hey Stevie,

    speak about what you know about we’ve gone over this sudject several times and early in his career I expressed my one concern about Russell when he was a rookie. This subject is far from new in here. Only to you.

  316. Norco Bob Says:

    Priest youre a liar,…you never talked about this issue,…but I tell you what, this is about to be a national story,…and the end of Russell.

  317. Norco Bob Says:

    Guess what else Priest, Im calling Pat in the morning, you will be once again banned,..youre welcome.

  318. priesttj Says:

    Norco Bob,

    As i said in the past it was my worst fear. Not the stuff these guy’s bring up in here. I don’t bring stuff like this up because I don’t know the details it’s all word of mouth.

  319. DKnight007 Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    dknight, its obvious to everyone in here you are considered the dumbest of the bloggers,…get things last, usually real inaccurate,…now it seems that you were one of the ones fooled into believing that story of russell in an Az gym,..lol,…the part of the story had the state right,..but hes in a rehab,..dknight, you really are an idiot. Word.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Jesus….it’s obvious that when you feel like a numb nut who knows only the warped ways of Al Davis Football Inc and accepts losing and nothing else…..that you just go off the drugged up deep end and start acting like a 17 year old kid.

    Sober up and then come talk to me….unless you are already sobered up?

    Damn now that’s scary! LOL

  320. RaiderDogg Says:

    Bob

    Brett Favre went to rehab for an adddiction to opiates. Sure did de-rail his career. If his career ends it will be because of poor performance, not purple syrup

  321. Norco Bob Says:

    High, loaded, or whatever dknight, you are easily the dumbest guy in here, consistantly. Keepin it real.

  322. priesttj Says:

    Norco, you wouldn’t know if we did talk about it. Yoou still think I give a damn about Gary’s show. And it should be a national story if it’s all true as far as the end of Russell. Well, we’ll see wont we…

  323. Norco Bob Says:

    Dogg,…omg,..what?…ok hows this, let Russell win a superbowl before his first trip to rehab…ok?…its hard to believe someone actually compared russell to favre,..I must say, I need another Norco now. Wow.

  324. DKnight007 Says:

    # RaiderRon Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    Oh and now Priest claims to have known about Russell and his problem all along. LOL! Dude has got to be mentally handicapped.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Yep…that’s what crack does to possessed Al Davis lap dogs like Priesst and Norco Boob.

    Unreal….

  325. NorthernD Says:

    RaiderDogg Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
    Bob

    Brett Favre went to rehab for an adddiction to opiates. Sure did de-rail his career. If his career ends it will be because of poor performance, not purple syrup
    ==============================
    He was pretty much traded from the Falcons because he was asleep and hungover at team meetings as well.

  326. Norco Bob Says:

    See dumbknight?…thats why you are considered dumb,…I have never supported Al davis in here,…try again loser.

  327. Norco Bob Says:

    Northernd,..wrong.

  328. RaiderDogg Says:

    Bob

    Did I compare performances or addictions? I clearly stated his performance will be his downfall.

    They both appear to be country dumb though lmao!

  329. severeraiderz Says:

    Dknight

    I have been saying for months that Brian Price would slip ahead of Cody. I haven’t been high on Cody ever, he is the D line equivalent of Jamarcus. I would be happy to have him in the late second or early third but no higher. I had Price, Odrick, and Williams ahead of him for a while now. I would love to get McClain in the first and Williams in the second.

  330. NorthernD Says:

    The comparison of Russell to Favre ends at the pharmacy counter.

  331. RaiderDogg Says:

    NorthernD Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
    He was pretty much traded from the Falcons because he was asleep and hungover at team meetings as well.
    ————————————————–
    I have heard the very same thing. Good old Country Time liked to party when he was young.

  332. NorthernD Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
    Northernd,..wrong.
    ======================
    Why wrong? That came from the mouth of Jerry Glanville.

  333. RaiderDogg Says:

    I also noticed that Brett Favre hasn’t won a ring since he stopped taking Norco.

  334. Norco Bob Says:

    Country dumb?…the dumbest people Iv ever run into are from the bay area.

  335. Norco Bob Says:

    Priest my call to Gary in the morning will be about Russell,..and you. Tune it. Word.

  336. priesttj Says:

    Boy! you guy’s are crazy lots o people knew about Russell’s exploits it’s no secret. I had guy’s coming up to all the time who hated him would tell me everything they could.

    I have a friend who’s the mother of a famous Baseball player a pitcher who knows him and sees him eeverry week. She hates him and would tell me a lot of crap about him.

    Helll Russell hung out in Oakland and SF you didn’t have to be in the know to know what he was doing. Lots of people knew.

  337. Tom cables pimp hand Says:

    I have been saying for months that Brian Price would slip ahead of Cody. I haven’t been high on Cody ever, he is the D line equivalent of Jamarcus. I would be happy to have him in the late second or early third but no higher. I had Price, Odrick, and Williams ahead of him for a while now. I would love to get McClain in the first and Williams in the second.

    —————————

    Naw cody actually showed up to the combine slimmed down which shows he cares. Russel showed up over weight which proves we were doomed from the start. But you don’t have to worry about a dt in the first at all anyway because Als picking taylor mays and switching him to linebacker. Our new linebacking core will consist of Howard and mays coming off the edge along with morrison or brown in the middle. Remmember Tom told you first.(;

  338. Norco Bob Says:

    Wasnt hoping it would happen, but the little Polock will be our qb,..all of 2010. Keepin it real.

  339. NorthernD Says:

    Cody showed up at the combine at 354. He still looked like a slob.
    He needs to drop down to 340 and do a couple of push-ups if he wants to get into the first round.
    Dropping 12 lbs before the combine for him just means he missed his breakfast that day.

  340. priesttj Says:

    Norco Bob, I can’ listen to that show all morning so give me a 15 minute window. That’s abut all I can stand.

  341. Norco Bob Says:

    Bright and early dammit, I will be first call,…Im tellin it like it is, …Russell,..and TJ from Mountain View,..dont oversleep dude. Hey now.

  342. NorthernD Says:

    Tom cables pimp hand,
    I betcha Mike Mitchell ends up at LB for the Raiders before Mays. I could see him adding 10 lbs and sticking close to the line of scrimmage from now on.
    His coverage skills are going to get him out of the league unless he makes the switch.

  343. priesttj Says:

    OK

  344. NorthernD Says:

    priesttj Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
    Norco Bob, I can’ listen to that show all morning so give me a 15 minute window.
    =============================
    Pleading to be on a radio call-in show?
    Who’s the addict?

  345. Norco Bob Says:

    You ok TJ?…all this Russell news bummin ya out?…not the end of the world bro, just the end of his career here,..he may resurface…all good. Word.

  346. Norco Bob Says:

    NorthernDork, tune in yoself, listen to me tell it like it is. Word.

  347. priesttj Says:

    NorthernD,

    What makes you think someones pleading to be on a show?

  348. NorthernD Says:

    What has surfaced about Russell? Do you have an article? News story?

  349. NorthernD Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
    NorthernDork, tune in yoself, listen to me tell it like it is. Word.
    =====================
    Never said anything hostile to you compadre.

  350. priesttj Says:

    Bob

    This is actually good news to me. If it’s all true This kid has a ton of talent and this was the only thing in his way. I just never talked about it because I never witnessed it myself. But I also never denied it, because way to many people told me about it. In fact I used to have a guy who would follow him around and give me feedback. Until I got tired of hearing it.

  351. Norco Bob Says:

    Stay tuned NorthernDork,..its about to be a national ESPN story,..but our friend at the sf chron will write the initial story. Hey now.

  352. NorthernD Says:

    priesttj,
    That’s what it looks like when I read it.

  353. Seymour Bush Says:

    NorthernD Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    Cody showed up at the combine at 354. He still looked like a slob.
    ===========================================

    He was by far the heaviest the guy there. By far. And if he is that heavy after an entire college football season, coming into the most important 3 months of his life, what happens when he cashes the check? Guys like Cody can play college football heavy and out of shape, in fact it probably helps their game. In the pros, they’re going get destroyed.

  354. Norco Bob Says:

    Hes going to be released, in the summer,..and I bet hes out of the league a full year,..then tries for comeback,..hope things work out for him. Real longshot though.

  355. priesttj Says:

    Bob,

    do you really think this is the first rodeo for Mr Davis with a drug addict player? lol This stuff was so prominant in the 70’s it was ridiculous. And he’salso not the first players in the last 10 years that had a problem. He is just making way more money than the others did.

    If he can come out clean and ready to go they’ll have him sit aand get ready and when he is he’ll play. Bret Farve was taking 25 vicodin a day. There several others that never hit the news. Like Joe Montana.

    It’s very serious but far from a deal breaker.

  356. RaiderDogg Says:

    Bob

    not 3 weeks ago you were going on and on and on about how JaMarcus was working out in AZ and that he would be going to the Pro Bowl. All with no mention of syrup or rehab. That is Sacramento Dumb son.

  357. Richochet Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    Bob

    This is actually good news to me. If it’s all true This kid has a ton of talent and this was the only thing in his way. I just never talked about it because I never witnessed it myself. But I also never denied it, because way to many people told me about it. In fact I used to have a guy who would follow him around and give me feedback. Until I got tired of hearing it.
    =================
    Lmao..you’re such a liar.
    You state you only “heard about it”..that you weren’t sure..but now you had SOMEONE FOLLOWING HIM AROUND?

    dude..you’re like this silly pathological liar..making things up as you go along..most contradicting things you’ve said previously. thing about liars is they can’t remember their lies..

    Oh..wait..LOL..aren’t YOU the one who ran the “best college coaching staff EVER assembled at the same time”?? Where Walsh and Wyche weren’t even around? Yet, to YOU they “definitely were there and which one of you clowns wants to challenge me on it”??

    remember that?

    You actually don’t remember much, do you?

  358. Norco Bob Says:

    I dont live in Sacramento.

  359. Seymour Bush Says:

    Professional athletes addicted to drugs? Can’t be. Say it ain’t so Joe!

  360. Richochet Says:

    Oh, and Bobbo?
    It’ “priest from Fremont” not Mountain View.

    Of course, the hosts were laughing as they said it…

  361. Norco Bob Says:

    Dogg,..I didnt have all this info 3 days ago, much less 3 weeks ago.

  362. Norco Bob Says:

    Brian has talked to me about it, as long as 3-4 months ago, but I never paid it much attention.

  363. Norco Bob Says:

    Rich,..TJ got famous as TJ from Mountain View, like 10 years ago.

  364. Seymour Bush Says:

    And look who just slithered out from under his rock: wack-o! Hey I have the wack-o life story right here:

    The Psychopathic Troll:

    The psychopathic troll is motivated to participate in an internet forum by psychotic delusions or compulsions, or by the neurotic seeking of false self esteem. The postings of a psychotic troll are unlikely to make any recognizable sense at all. The neurotic troll either seeks to obtain false self esteem by manipulating the reactions of others, or by demonstrating his “power” to destroy what others enjoy. The neurotic troll is often manipulative enough to make it past the initial moderation.

  365. NorthernD Says:

    priesttj,
    Russell hasn’t produced on the field. If he had,then maybe they look the other way. Maybe he gets away with it.
    They won’t give him any slack now.

  366. Richochet Says:

    I missed your answer on that rock band you said you had at 18, Oakglen.

    You know..the one that got you money for a house?

    lol…dumbass

  367. Seymour Bush Says:

    wack job there is a reason you are in your late 30’s and you have never done a thing in your life. Here’s you life’s story;

    The Psychopathic Troll:

    The psychopathic troll is motivated to participate in an internet forum by psychotic delusions or compulsions, or by the neurotic seeking of false self esteem. The postings of a psychotic troll are unlikely to make any recognizable sense at all. The neurotic troll either seeks to obtain false self esteem by manipulating the reactions of others, or by demonstrating his “power” to destroy what others enjoy. The neurotic troll is often manipulative enough to make it past the initial moderation.

  368. Richochet Says:

    Everyone knows you have a least two dozen handles, Oakglen..

    What was the reason again?
    Oh yeah…

    Compulsive Cross Poster:
    The compulsive cross poster is someone who has serious self-image problems. They feel that creating multiple handles, and posting to oneself, and then proceeding to read what they posted, in their own little insecure way, they convince themselves they’re not a loser.
    Some compulsive cross posters will actually engage in full conversations with themselves, only to gloat later to everyone how they conquered..well..their self.
    Once they are exposed, the compulsive cross poster will always make more new handles, hoping to gain back a little bit of self respect that they never seem to find.

  369. Richochet Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    wack job there is a reason you are in your late 30’s and you have never done a thing in your life.
    ================

    LOL..you’re so freaking stupid to even set yourself up, dumbass.

    One thing I DIDN’T do was state I graduated at 20..FROM COLLEGE.
    Also didn’t state that I BOUGHT A HOUSE when I was 19.
    And when questioned about how a lender gave the money?
    I sure as hell didn’t state ‘OH..UH…DUH…WELL…UH…UM…WELL…GOSH…UH…WELL.. MAYBE I WAS IN A BAND..yeah..that’s it..I WAS IN A BAND..THAT’S HOW I GOT A HOUSE..YEAH…THAT’S WORKS.

    lmfao THAT YOU’RE SO DAMN IGNORANT YOU DON’T REALIZE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE LAUGHING AT YOU for that stupid take.

    Damn you’re slow, Glenny, lol…as slow as you can be.

  370. Seymour Bush Says:

    See wack job, the description I posted is actually a clinical description. Yours is made up. By you. Which is consistent with EVERYTHING you do. You live in your own wacked out universe. We call it WACK WORLD. It’s your life wacky! Sucks to be you!!!

    HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  371. Richochet Says:

    So, you admit the following was an ignorant head up ass, dumber than cotton, lie, Oakglen?

    Seymour Bush Says:
    March 3rd, 2010 at 5:23 pm
    Wack job how do you know I didn’t have a hit band at the age of 18?

  372. priesttj Says:

    We’ll see wont we?…

    Everybody is signing his death warrant now. Why don’t we wait to see what’s up. This nothing new guy’s players entertainers do it all the time.

    I’m glad he never went to far with some other drugs that are much worse. If he can lick this and time will tell. Then I don’t see a problem at all.
    So we’ll see…. first we have to find out if the story is true.

  373. Seymour Bush Says:

    Maybe you don’t get it wack! I graduated from college with a four year degree in economics at the age of 20. Prior to graduating I bought a house. I still own that house. It is paid off. You on the other hand, are an internet troll. See the difference. There’s a difference between MY world, and WACK world.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

  374. Richochet Says:

    Made up? lol…WRONG, LIAR.
    YOU were busted with over a dozen CURRENT HANDLES by the mod…that YOU ADMITTED TO..you idiot.

    now you’re up over two dozen..and counting, Oakglen..probably WAY above two dozen..you’re a cross posting POS coward..always have been..always will be.

    Admit it..when you got busted? You felt like a total freaking loser..didn’t you? That’s why you changed your name…BUT WERE TOO STUPID TO COVER YOUR TRACKS…cross posting POS

  375. Seymour Bush Says:

    It really sucks to be you doesn’t it wacky? You can admit it.

  376. Seymour Bush Says:

    You life sucks. You have a mail order bride who ran off, you spend almost all your time as an internet troll, just kind of a sucky existence if you ask me.

  377. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    Maybe you don’t get it wack! I graduated from college with a four year degree in economics at the age of 20. Prior to graduating I bought a house. I still own that house. It is paid off. You on the other hand, are an internet troll. See the difference. There’s a difference between MY world, and WACK world.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
    ===================
    Again…YOU’RE A LIAR.

    NO ONE IS GOING TO GIVE A LOAN TO AN UNEMPLOYED STUDENT, you lying crock of shyte…EVERYONE KNOWS THAT.

    Oh..wait..what was your reply again, when busted on that?

    Seymour Bush Says:
    March 3rd, 2010 at 5:23 pm
    Wack job how do you know I didn’t have a hit band at the age of 18?

    Yep, LMFAO

  378. Seymour Bush Says:

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

  379. Seymour Bush Says:

    You’re angry because you’re stupid right wack-o?

  380. Seymour Bush Says:

    No seriously. You are angry because you are stupid, right?

  381. Seymour Bush Says:

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

  382. Richochet Says:

    Awww…look at Oakglen..rushing to post silly little comments about “life” and “wifes”..knowing he’s just winging it…but what’s NOT WINGED IS YOUR COMMENT..from YOUR MOUTH:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    March 3rd, 2010 at 5:23 pm
    Wack job how do you know I didn’t have a hit band at the age of 18?

    well???

    LIE OR NOT? lol…come on, peanut…you know it’s not going to go away…just going to KEEP ON REMINDING YOU HOW DAMN STUPID YOU ARE..so..lie? or not?

  383. Richochet Says:

    I don’t see an answer…why is that, Oakglen?

  384. Richochet Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    March 3rd, 2010 at 5:23 pm
    Wack job how do you know I didn’t have a hit band at the age of 18?

    well???

  385. Richochet Says:

    What do others say about your comments, Glenny?

    · Thec07 Says:
    March 1st, 2010 at 1:03 pm
    DKnight007 Says:
    March 1st, 2010 at 12:56 pm
    Seymour Bush Says:
    February 28th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
    # Thec07 Says:
    February 28, 2010 at 11:31 pm
    Makes sense to me. If Mr. davis was paying me in some way shape or form i would defend also…lol
    =============================================
    No, I’m not paid by the Raiders. But, if you asked me my own history, I graduated with a four year degree at 20, bought a house at 19 which is paid off, had a public corporation at 26, and I do what I want from the age of 29 on. The question still stands….what have you ever done?
    ^^^^^^^^
    Wow, Seymour Bush….you just proved to be an even bigger jerk and douche than what most us already thought before.
    The thing is NOBODY asked you what you did….ya Douche….and guess what….NOBODY gives a crap!
    We all have our own little ego building uccess stories in some way shape or form and we all have our own screw ups.
    So, in the final analysis….you “may” have graduated when you were 20….and you “may” bought a house at 19 and allegedly paid it off…(i wonder if mommy and daddy might have paid if off for you hmm?) and you “may” have a successful corporation in a down economy no less?
    Howvever, by divulging all this to us on here WITHOUT anyone asking and NOBODY on here CARING…..shows your not very bright and not very mature either are you?
    Ya Idiot….
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Yep……

  386. Richochet Says:

    · Mistabr0wn Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
    Seymour, since you answer to Oakglen, we all know you’re OakGlen, why dontcha just use your name?
    And you giving props to yourself under this name is borderline Napa State Hospital material, ok?

  387. Seymour Bush Says:

    Wacko you didn’t answer any of my questions and your now quoting mistabrOwn again. Sad, sad, sad. Every moment you just go down the loo further and further. But here look in the mirror:
    The Psychopathic Troll:

    The psychopathic troll is motivated to participate in an internet forum by psychotic delusions or compulsions, or by the neurotic seeking of false self esteem. The postings of a psychotic troll are unlikely to make any recognizable sense at all. The neurotic troll either seeks to obtain false self esteem by manipulating the reactions of others, or by demonstrating his “power” to destroy what others enjoy. The neurotic troll is often manipulative enough to make it past the initial moderation.

  388. Richochet Says:

    :) that was easy, OakDork..lol…

    I mean..what could you say?

    NOTHING..because you’re a liar..and LIARS TUCK TAIL AND HIDE, LIKE LITTLE BEYOTCHES.

  389. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    dknight, its obvious to everyone in here you are considered the dumbest of the bloggers,…get things last, usually real inaccurate,
    ============================================

    Man wack job Norco Bob is taking apart your other “Sources”. You need to take a break. Take some anger management courses, go find another mail order bride from Bora Bora.

  390. Richochet Says:

    oH..AND DUMBASS?
    tHOSE INSULTS WERE FROM THEC…KNIGHT…MRBROWN..ME..lots of people crap on you, loser…hell..they’re are more, if you like :)

  391. Seymour Bush Says:

    Actually wack job I have told you this a million times. I don’t converse with

    The Psychopathic Troll:

    The psychopathic troll is motivated to participate in an internet forum by psychotic delusions or compulsions, or by the neurotic seeking of false self esteem. The postings of a psychotic troll are unlikely to make any recognizable sense at all. The neurotic troll either seeks to obtain false self esteem by manipulating the reactions of others, or by demonstrating his “power” to destroy what others enjoy. The neurotic troll is often manipulative enough to make it past the initial moderation.

  392. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    # Norco Bob Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    dknight, its obvious to everyone in here you are considered the dumbest of the bloggers,…get things last, usually real inaccurate,
    ============================================

    Man wack job Norco Bob is taking apart your other “Sources”. You need to take a break. Take some anger management courses, go find another mail order bride from Bora Bora.
    ================
    How sweet…Knight craps down Oakglens throat, and now Oakglen is rushing to buddy up on Bobbo’s comments?

    you lemming.

    How..about the rock band?

  393. Seymour Bush Says:

    KNIGHT…MRBROWN..ME
    —————————————–

    those guys can’t insult me. As long as I am the complete opposite of those guys I am doing the right thing! But, as for you wack job, go see a professional therapist. You need serious serious help!

  394. Seymour Bush Says:

    Richochet Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    How sweet…Knight craps down Oakglens throat, and now Oakglen is rushing to buddy up on Bobbo’s comments?
    ======================================
    KNIGHT…MRBROWN..ME
    ====================

    Now, wack-o you are once again spinning out of control, contradicting yourself, making yourself look even stupider than when you got here. Sorry wack job, you are boring and sad.

  395. Seymour Bush Says:

    But wack job there is hope for you:

    The Psychopathic Troll:

    The psychopathic troll is motivated to participate in an internet forum by psychotic delusions or compulsions, or by the neurotic seeking of false self esteem. The postings of a psychotic troll are unlikely to make any recognizable sense at all. The neurotic troll either seeks to obtain false self esteem by manipulating the reactions of others, or by demonstrating his “power” to destroy what others enjoy. The neurotic troll is often manipulative enough to make it past the initial moderation.

  396. Richochet Says:

    LMFAO…
    Oakglen: “now that YOU BUSTED ME, I DON’T WANT TO PLAY”??

    DOESN’T WORK THAT WAY, little boy.

    See..I get to laugh at you.

    It’s NOT your reply I laugh at..it’s the fact I crap down your neck, others read it, and watch as you CAN DO NOTHING..it’s the ultimate F*** YOU watching you squirm.

    OF COURSE YOU CAN’T ANSWER..what could you say?

    YOU GOT BUSTED, YOU LYING ASS CROSS POSTING FOOL… :)
    And I get to be the one who keeps reminding you :mrgreen:

  397. Seymour Bush Says:

    Turn off the internet and get yourself checked into a hospital wack job. One that has locked doors preferably.

  398. Seymour Bush Says:

    Wack job you are not making any sense. Oh right:

    The Psychopathic Troll:

    The postings of a psychotic troll are unlikely to make any recognizable sense at all.

  399. Richochet Says:

    Anything about the following, Glenny?

    · Mistabr0wn Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
    Seymour, since you answer to Oakglen, we all know you’re OakGlen, why dontcha just use your name?
    And you giving props to yourself under this name is borderline Napa State Hospital material, ok?

  400. Seymour Bush Says:

    Are you done not making any sense wack job?

  401. Richochet Says:

    · Richochet Says:
    March 3rd, 2010 at 5:16 pm
    # Seymour Bush Says:
    March 3rd, 2010 at 5:11 pm
    Richochet Says:
    March 3rd, 2010 at 5:07 pm
    Come on OakGlenSeyMORON..tell us again how you stupidly stated you graduated at 20, BUT BOUGHT A HOUSE AT 19???
    =========================================
    Statement of fact wack job. You see, when you are a psychopathic liar like yourself, you think everyone else is the same way. But, some of us are not psychopathic liars like you. I bought my lst house at age 19 and still own it. Graduated at age 20 with a four year degree from Boulder and that’s nothing. I could go on and on and on. But enough about me. The question still remains, what have you ever done?
    ================================
    You’re a liar.
    You’re a FULL TIME COLLEGE STUDENT..but BOUGHT A HOUSE AT 19?
    You’re a liar.
    No bank would give you a loan, LIAR. NO BANK OR LENDER IN THE COUNTRY IS GOING TO SELL A HOUSE TO A STUDENT WHO DOESN’T HAVE A JOB.
    You’re busted fool…(Oh, it wasn’t me that busted your sorryass…numerous posters called you out on it, where YOU TUCKED YOUR TAIL AND RAN, LIKE THE POS THAT YOU ARE..I just get to remind you how you got busted…little “salt in the wound” fool.
    So…come on, fool…explain how a lender gave you a loan when you weren’t working..lol…this should be good.

  402. Seymour Bush Says:

    Now you’re back to quoting mistabrOwn? You are a sad, sad, sad, sad pathetic pile of trash wack job. Especially after mistabrOwn got run off of here as usual. But you don’t have any self respect after we all crap and piss all over you day in and day out do you?

  403. Richochet Says:

    STILL LAUGH MY ASS OFF AT OAKGLEN’S REPLY:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    March 3rd, 2010 at 5:23 pm
    Wack job how do you know I didn’t have a hit band at the age of 18?

  404. Seymour Bush Says:

    So now you’ve quoted mistabrOwn, contradicted yourself, made yourself look stupid, and now you are back to quoting mistabrOwn? Sad, sad, pathetic little troll. Anything else?

  405. Seymour Bush Says:

    Here wack-o read this pamphlet. It describes you to a T:
    The Psychopathic Troll:

    The psychopathic troll is motivated to participate in an internet forum by psychotic delusions or compulsions, or by the neurotic seeking of false self esteem. The postings of a psychotic troll are unlikely to make any recognizable sense at all. The neurotic troll either seeks to obtain false self esteem by manipulating the reactions of others, or by demonstrating his “power” to destroy what others enjoy. The neurotic troll is often manipulative enough to make it past the initial moderation.

  406. Seymour Bush Says:

    You don’t have a life do you wack-o?

  407. Richochet Says:

    Want to see more of your ignorant ramblins, Glenny?

    Funny shyte..to be sure.

    · Oakglenn Says:
    February 20th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
    Look, everyone, this blog is under attack by trolls right now. Ignore them, and I will handle them. Talk football. I’m keeping contact with the mods right now and we’re working on a way to get rid of these trolls, for good! So just talk football, ignore the trolls, and I’ll handle it. If any of you talk to the trolls, I’ll have you banned, too.

  408. Seymour Bush Says:

    You have NO LIFE right wacky?

  409. Richochet Says:

    Yeah…still funny…

    · Oakglenn Says:
    February 20th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
    Anyone else want to get banned??????? Huh??????? Huh??????????????????????????
    That’s what I thought. Now, back to football. I like the moves Al is making. Gibril Wilson was awful in man coverage. When playing on the weak side, he tended to favor the slot back who was lined up at a 30 degree angle and this confusion in coverage caused a gaping hole in the flat which led to opponents mixing up a lot of xyz scat formations on us. Anyone who knows football knows this. But you guys would rather bash Al. Just blame Al.

  410. Seymour Bush Says:

    Looks like you have gone back and taken all of oakglenns posts and reposted them. YOU REALLY DON’T HAVE A LIFE DO YOU??

  411. Richochet Says:

    have a life?
    Sure…but right now my entertainment is slapping your sorryass around..knowing there isn’t a thing you can do to defend yourself.

    Yeah..I know..cheap entertainment..and yet, still…it’s funny :mrgreen:

  412. Richochet Says:

    You dummy..takes longer to laugh at your idiot posts than it does to hit “SEARCH”

    You never learned about the search button? lol…you are a moron, aren’t you? In seconds I can pull up your idiot ramblings..and yes, they’re still funny :)

  413. Seymour Bush Says:

    You can’t search that way wack job. But we all know you are a liar and have been caught in countless lies. I am tired of dealing with a fruit loop lying sack of sh**. You are the lowest of the low wack.

  414. Seymour Bush Says:

    Poor wacky, has no life. Sorry, I got things to do. I do have a life.

  415. Richochet Says:

    Now..isn’t this interesting?
    Here…Oakglen..JUST HAPPENS to have problems..with the EXACT SAME POSTERS YOU DO…

    Wow..is that “odd” or what? ;)

    # Oakglenn Says:
    August 7th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
    Hilarious. Good to see that MaddenRaider, Kookie and Missedabrain all think I am lurking under every rock. The truth is I have not been here since early this am. Sorry that I broke all of your brains. And as for Dud, I fritzed that guy’s gourd so badly, he went deranged Nam vet on me and started calling me a slant eyed gook. He must be in some Veterans Hospital somewhere thinking he is stationed in Danang. Man I love this.
    ——————————————–
    For the millionth time, I am not Raider Ron or Beecham. There were trolls who came here and tried to emulate my posts. You fell for it. Now they are doing it again. They came on here and admitted it. Since the registration they can’t post as me anymore. MR I have really gone lite on you recently. Do you want me to start piling on again?? Did you see what just happened to Dud?? Remember your epic meltdowns??? Kookie is melting down as we speak and I haven’t even started on him yet. Right now there are only three posters on this blog that I have a problem with. Kookie, Maddenloser and missedabrain. Funny thing is most people seem to have problems with those idiots. What does that tell ya??

  416. Richochet Says:

    I’m sorry, Glenny…but…the rock band??

    Nothing?

    A lie????

  417. KoolKell Says:

    So Reeks, you are an un-apologetic psychopath. Point taken.

  418. KoolKell Says:

    Oakglenn

    My game is not suited for you, ok?

  419. NorthernD Says:

    Cornell Green to the Bills. 3 years for $9 Million.

    Question: What do losing teams have in common?

  420. JB Says:

    The mop handle goes to the Bill’s. They must be worse off than us. Come to think of it, Walker went from us to the Bills and then back to us. I guess this just proves what goes around, comes around. Walker is serviceable at guard. IMO, he’s a much beter opyion than Carlisle at this point in Carlisle’s career. Get us a new top flight center and we’ll definitely have the beef advantage in the middle with Gallery, new guy (C) & Walker. Draft a new OLT and move Henderson to ORT and we could have a competitive O-line. The Center position is critical and should either come from FA or the #2 or 3A draft pick.

  421. JB Says:

    # NorthernD Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    Cornell Green to the Bills. 3 years for $9 Million.

    Question: What do losing teams have in common?
    ********************
    Answer: Their parts (Players) are interchangeable? It sure seems that way – Losman, Walker, Mop Handle, etc.

  422. RaiderDogg Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    March 8th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
    I dont live in Sacramento.
    =======================================
    I meant Placerville dumb!

    You do know I am just fukking with you right Bob? Although you have been pretty wishy washy regarding JaMarcus.

  423. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Reek, as some of you may have noticed posts next to nothing about the Raiders instead attempting to poison the board with his desperate bid for attention.

    Yaaaawn…

    The release of Walker signals and end to the Kiffin era once and for all.

    Stated weeks, months ago Ellis would not be back.

    Those of you silver and black die hards knew he was very limited last year and hardly practiced for stretches.

    Faded as the season progressed and his knee worsened.

    I’d be shocked if we drafted a DE with the 8th when we’ve done fairly well with late round selections and in FA in recent years.

    The real problem in O town is the O or complete lack there of.

    Alot of it rests on Jamarcus but alot rests on our line.

    Ditching Green is another HUGE sign that hopefully meaningful chagnes are in store for 2010.

  424. El Tato Says:

    I still think we should try to resign Ellis as a pass rusher and as a veteran leader in a young team.

    Shaughnessy showed promise and played very well when given the oportunity

  425. Copenhagen_Fan Says:

    The JaMarcus story is actually good news. If the guy is chugging “lean” constantly it explains his failure until this point. The lack of motivation, the deteriorating body, the slow slurred speech.

    Good news for the Raiders. With treatment he can turn it all around. We all know that we saw some good play at the end of 2009.

    Get it done.

  426. papertiger418 Says:

    Hey guys. Don’t know if you ever read the Chronicle posts, but the Charger troll is back! CA_NFL_fan is already talking trash, still trying to live in a world where LT is a Charger. Please indulge his attempts to demean us. I like having him around for some reason.

  427. Copenhagen_Fan Says:

    Tell the Charger troll to come back when they win a Super Bowl.

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  429. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Walker…ok, they had to do something about him…
    Ellis…I admit, a bit of a surprise!

  430. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,SHOULD RUSSELL BE IN ALAMEDA WORKING ON HIS GAME RIGHT NOW OR LOUNGING POOLSIDE,WITH A COCTAIL AND A BAG OF SKITTLES ?

  431. hwnrdr Says:

    Nah, he’s going to make it rain in Vegas with Walker!!! Maybe he’ll get beat up too!!! OK, disclaimer here…do not wish any harm on a human being…

  432. jhill Says:

    Well Vegas,

    I guess yor attempt to take a rumor out of the last paragraph of ole boy’s story, and run with it was successful, lol.

    So it’s now a “fact” that Russell is a sizzurp addict, and you and B told us all along. Oh, and even Priest knew it and wasn’t saying anything.

    Wow!

    LMFAO!

  433. vegas raider Says:

    Jhill,

    Hey I was sincere at the beginning, and I tried to hold it all in, with the hope he get the help he needed and didn’t make the papers.

    Now that the cat is out of the bag, the stories may start flying, lol.

    But I do believe he was in AZ working out prior to all this. Maybe it crashed and burned, maybe it was something else, who knows. I got no scoop on all that.

    As others have said, maybe this is a good thing. He would never make it with his priorities out of whack. Maybe this is the first step towards straightening those priorities.

  434. jhill Says:

    So we cut Cable annointed team leaders like Fargas and Ellis, but we keep the drug addicited 3rd string QB?

    WTF?

  435. jhill Says:

    Vegas,

    There was a picture of him that we talked about a few months back. That said it all.

    The loss of his live in mentor was the first step, IMO. Were there any reports of this kind of stuff prior to his Uncle’s passing?

  436. vegas raider Says:

    And BTW, I was on this way before B. He talked of him partying and living it up.

    I knew specifically what it was, and that it wasn’t mostly harmless fun. If he isn’t at a clinic, unless things have changed dramatically, he needs to be.

    The syrup is no joke.

  437. jhill Says:

    So with Ellis cut, Shaugnessy is pretty much penciled in as a starting DE.

    Warren is still hanging around, huh?

    Hmmmmm

  438. jhill Says:

    Ok Scoop!

    We gotcha.

  439. neilb Says:

    Good morning all.

  440. neilb Says:

    Hope Green took his mop handle when he left for the Bills.

  441. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    VEGAS,U THINK THAT COULD EFFECT HIS CONTRACT STATUS,”SUBSTANCE-ABUSE”?

  442. jhill Says:

    Mop handle got 3 million a year from the Bills?

    Wow!

  443. jhill Says:

    Wassup Neilb

  444. neilb Says:

    Morning Jhill ! How ya doing ?

  445. jhill Says:

    Not a bad offseason, IMO.

    I like the personell and coaching moves that have been made so far.

  446. vegas raider Says:

    Were there any reports of this kind of stuff prior to his Uncle’s passing?

    ***************************************

    You know I don’t think so. I’m sured he partying prior to it all, but I think it got out of control this past offseason. My friend met him around May this past year.

    Remember, he didn’t make that much his rookie year, only (lol) 3.5 million. You don’t make anything during the offseason as well.

    We started hearing of him starting to slack off around midway through the 2008 season (when he made 15 million or something like that). The Chargers Thursday night game on NFLN was the first real public-bashing of Jamarcus, when he flew seperate from the team and blew off the media meetings.

    Too much too soon, IMO. Once the big, BIG, money started coming in, with out Ray around, he started hanging with nothing but hanger on’s and guys who don’t have his best interests in mind.

    Not sure why Moms’ didn’t fly out for awhile.

  447. neilb Says:

    It’s bound to have been said already,BUT……

    How can we not keep and pay Fargas 1.7m , let pay a third string back-up corner over 3m ?

  448. jhill Says:

    I’m good man!

    Thanks!

  449. jhill Says:

    The Routt move was a good one, IMO because it means he’ll be starting.

    Starting = him NOT playing the slot, which is where he is constantly lost. He is better than average playing on the outside, IMO.

  450. vegas raider Says:

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    March 9th, 2010 at 6:33 am
    VEGAS,U THINK THAT COULD EFFECT HIS CONTRACT STATUS,”SUBSTANCE-ABUSE”?

    ***************************

    That is a good question.

    I think the American Disabilities act includes substance abuse. Might be a slippery-slope, just cutting him, but you can make the case it would be a performance based cutting.

    He needs to restructure. If he does, it drastically reduces the likelihood of getting cut.

    I, the biggest Bruce homer and Jamarcus basher, hope he restructures, gets help and sits and learns from Bruce. No sense cutting him, unless things really spiral or he won’t restructure.

  451. vegas raider Says:

    Are we back on???

    Damn you IBA, my blog time is limited and precious!!!

  452. jhill Says:

    What is he supposed to learn from Bruce, lol?

  453. jhill Says:

    LMFAO Vegas …

    Learn from Bruce?

    That was your best one yet.

  454. vegas raider Says:

    Shameless plug time.

    For all you Dodger fans, I hate you. Actually, J/K, my cousin is getting his shot doing the play-by-play for today’s game as Vin doesn’t go to Spring Training.

    Tune in for Josh Suchon and Steve Lyons for todays play-call from Phoenix at 10 am. He could be the next voice of the Dodgers.

  455. neilb Says:

    Ahhhh!! We’re back!!

  456. vegas raider Says:

    Come on man, you saw Bruce during the second Denver game. You saw the improvement in Russell at the end of the year.

    Who has Russell had to watch be a pro’s pro, to learn what it takes to be a winning NFL QB?

  457. neilb Says:

    Jhill…

    You got Routt starting instead of Johnson ?

  458. jhill Says:

    Come on man, you saw Bruce during the second Denver game.

    ——————————————————-

    Uh, what?

    Are you saying that Russell was Gradkowski-esque on that winning drive?

    LMFAO!

  459. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Routt playing opposite of Nnamdi? Man, Al is one stuborn SOB. Routt has never shown any signs that he can conver people man 2 man, that he has the quicknes to cover shifty receivers or to be a student of the game…We are looking at 16-20 pass interference calls from Routt plus all the big gainers he’s going to give up…this all changes if Al just drafts the fastest DB in the 1st round and hands him the keys to the right side of the defense.

  460. jhill Says:

    Well Neilb,

    I guessing that with CJ suffering through injuries and him being on the other end of most of the big passing plays we gave up last year, the position is at least open.

    1st and 3rd round tender? 3 million a year?

    Yeah, I’d say he’s the front runner.

  461. 4evaRaider Says:

    I wish Justin Fargas THE VERY BEST

  462. neilb Says:

    There it is Jhill.Anyone playing the other side of Nnamdi is going to give up big plays.Even more so if he’s covering the other teams #1 WR.

  463. neilb Says:

    HEY!!!! 4eva!!!!

  464. 4evaRaider Says:

    Me and Vegas was right….We thin at RB so lets take that Matthews kid in the 1st :)

  465. 4evaRaider Says:

    Suuuup Neilb?

  466. neilb Says:

    How ya doing 4eva!

  467. 4evaRaider Says:

    Ok I guess Neilb! could be better,could be worse.Got in a fight with my daughter,she wanted her no job,do NOTHING boyfriend to move in with us and I said NO.So my wonderful gratefull daughter moved out on me.So now I stay with another friend of mine so its as good as can be expected.

  468. vegas raider Says:

    4eva!!!!

    I had the over/under on 8 days for how long it would be in between 4eva posts.

    How many was it?

  469. neilb Says:

    Damn.Sorry to hear that 4eva.

  470. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Josh Suchon and Steve Lyons!

  471. vegas raider Says:

    Bruce was grabbing the stills of the D and going over it with Jamarcus.

    Usually Jamarcus sat on the bench, almost alone, if the coaches didn’t come around.

    Bruce wasn’t having it and Jamarcus got the W for the team.

    Jamarcus can and should benefit from watching a QB with arguably half as much talent as him, put in the work to be successful.

  472. 4evaRaider Says:

    I think it was 8 or 9 days Vegas!!!! But unlike Norco Bob,I really am at the library.My ex-roomate/GF said she would just GIVE me her laptop but I told her no because shee needs it for work.Plus she got a car-payment so I wont let her buy a new laptop on credit.If her new car was paid 4 I would have taken her current laptop with a quickness tho :) :(

  473. vegas raider Says:

    Here you go BSJ, you can learn about the greatest year ever in baseball history

    http://www.amazon.com/This-Gracious-Season-Greatest-Baseball/dp/0971872902

  474. neilb Says:

    “Usually Jamarcus sat on the bench, almost alone, if the coaches didn’t come around”.

    If anything that what drove me nuts with Russell.3 and out,sits down,puts his beanie hat on and does squat.

  475. 408RAIDER Says:

    Ha jamarcus is @ rehab..

  476. 4evaRaider Says:

    Thankz Neilb but its OK .My friend that I stay with now is a “green farmer” like yours truely so….we gonna combine crops and in about 50 days it will be all good!

  477. neilb Says:

    Jerry’s on the ball! New post.

  478. vegas raider Says:

    4eva,

    You ever use apple juice? That used to be our trade secret. And we started the 12/12 light/dark shift a tad earlier than most.

  479. raidertalk Says:

    Damn I remember when Javon was begging to give his money back.

    I picked the wrong line of work

  480. raidertalk Says:

    Heres hoping that we can draft some linemen now that we got rid of the dead weight. Or maybe just some probowl caliber linemen

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  482. jamie77 Says:

    Matt is going to do great things for the raiders this season

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