Green out, who’s next at tackle?
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, March 9th, 2010 at 7:37 am in Oakland Raiders.
It’s hard to know what’s more amazing. The fact that Cornell Green was essentially a three-year starter for the Raiders or that the Buffalo Bills looked hard at that film and gave him a three-year contract.
With Green officially gone (you never know with the Raiders when players will boomerang to silver and black), it increases speculation Al Davis will be looking hard at an offensive tackles in the draft.
It’s logical thinking, with the danger being the Raiders haven’t exactly covered themselves in glory locating tackles in the past. We’ll give Mario Henderson (third round, 2007) the benefit of the doubt because he’s entering only his second season as a starter.
A rundown of the other Day 1 selections in the last 10-plus years:
– Paul McQuistan, third-round, 2006: Looked at originally as a tackle in an Art Shell power-blocking scheme, he never flourished as a zone blocker and battled injury.
– Robert Gallery, first round, (No. 2 overall, 2004): Struggled under revolving-door of line coaches until Tom Cable dubbed him a square peg in a round hole, put him at guard, and salvaged the selection.
– Langston Walker, second round, 2002: Coaches and teammates at Cal were stunned Walker went this high. He did eventually become a starter at right tackle, but had more bad games than good ones. The Bills gave him a huge free agent contract (you’d think they would have learned something about Raiders right tackles) and regretted it.
– Matt Stinchcomb, first round, No. 18 overall, 1999: Played the end of his senior year with a serious shoulder injury, and _ surprise! _ had reconstructive shoulder surgery early as a Raider. Went from tackle to guard to center, mastering none.
– Mo Collins, 1998, No. 23 overall: Powerful interior blocker drafted as a tackle but was better in a phone both than in space. Shifted to guard and played well.
The names you’ll be hearing about the most until April 22?
Russell Okung (Oklahoma State), Trent Williams (Oklahoma), Bryan Bulaga (Iowa) and Anthony Davis (Rutgers), the four players expected to go in the upper half of the first round. There’s also combine warrior Bruce Campbell of Maryland, deemed a reach at No. 8, much as his college teammate Darrius Heyward-Bey, was a reach at No. 7 in 2009.
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March 9th, 2010 at 7:39 am
It looks like Al is drafting Bruce Campbell.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:39 am
By the way, Beeecham is still an idiot.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:40 am
Give me Trent Williams, Okung won’t be there, or give me nothing!!!!
March 9th, 2010 at 7:41 am
Ryan Matthews PLEASE
March 9th, 2010 at 7:42 am
Hey Vegas. Barry Bonds is no Joe Rudi.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:42 am
4eva,
Check the last thread….
March 9th, 2010 at 7:42 am
Vegas, thats how I felt when we passed on Alex Mack last year….Deep class 4 linemen,imo,not mant Matthews or Gearheardts around
March 9th, 2010 at 7:43 am
ok
March 9th, 2010 at 7:43 am
Give me a football team or give me death!
March 9th, 2010 at 7:44 am
This is Al Davis drafting,since when did logic play any part of it?
March 9th, 2010 at 7:45 am
Sorry, love Joe but not as much as my boy BB.
My home office has a Barry bobble-head and a sweet framed and matted pic of him hitting #70.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:46 am
Trade Dmac for a bobble-head!
March 9th, 2010 at 7:47 am
Vegas,no I havent.Is it like pouring Dr.Pepper in 4 sweetness?….Now days they try and push air-o-ponics but with the new nutrients,it clogs up the fittings.MY new secret is….I take fish-tank bubblers with a junction box thing 4 oxegen and take a little hose and put it in each basket so roots have all oxygen they need .This way they dont grow roots but big buds
March 9th, 2010 at 7:48 am
How is it conceivable to like Barry Bonds? He has absolutely no class or redeeming qualities. Pure turdblossom cheat.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:48 am
good morning nation
March 9th, 2010 at 7:49 am
Good morning to my dear friends in here,…oh Iv missed you,..as usual, a long night without you.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:49 am
Fargas 4 RB’s coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 9th, 2010 at 7:50 am
Morning Mcskinnylegs,Bob.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:50 am
a fallout3 booblehead?
March 9th, 2010 at 7:50 am
Interesting with the O2.
I’m sure it is similar to Dr. Pepper, but we would mix in Apple Juice with almost every watering after the first few weeks.
But I was just a lil old Ranch hand so to speak, never in charge of the operation.
Happy growing!!!
March 9th, 2010 at 7:52 am
Trade DMAC for a fish tank bubbler!
March 9th, 2010 at 7:53 am
Off for my dinner.
Have a great Tuesday everyone.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:53 am
Vegas….the reason roots grow and elongate is because they are in search of O2….if you supply O2 DIRECTLY 2 roots,they dont need 2 search 4 O2 and will use ALL their energy 4da buds!
March 9th, 2010 at 7:53 am
Fish tank bubblers?
Hmmm …
You are blowing straight air into your baskets?
What?
March 9th, 2010 at 7:53 am
U2 Neilb!
lmao @ Bo!!!!!!!!!
March 9th, 2010 at 7:54 am
BSJ,
I use to go to Spring Training and ride to coattails of my cousin.
I saw Barry sign numerous autographs for kids, but when an adult came, watch out. He would turn on a dime and tell people to “get a life”.
But he was more than supportive for my cousins book and even helped promote it, even though he didn’t get a dime from it.
He’s not a bad dude, just never warmed to the media.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:55 am
Bad acting job,Jhill lol
like you OF ALL PEOPLE dont know lol!
March 9th, 2010 at 7:57 am
So anyways, has anyone signed someone to an offer sheet? Pretty slow these days.
And is Al going to sign someone, ANYONE, that didn’t play for our 5-11 squad from last year?
March 9th, 2010 at 7:59 am
Well guys my time is running low but hopefully I still on target for OTA’s
Love you ALL and Miss you ALL
Take care!!!!!!!!!
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March 9th, 2010 at 7:59 am
Barry Bonds has always been my fave,…still is…word.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:02 am
Bob,
Go to amazon and get yourself a copy of “This Gracious Season”. You will like it and help support my family.
Word
March 9th, 2010 at 8:03 am
Later 4eva, Best Buy has cheap laptops, and 12 months interest free.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:04 am
Whats it about vegas?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:06 am
Barry Bonds and the year he jacked 73.
My cousin wrote it. Forewords by Ray RAtto and Bob Nightendale.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:07 am
Reach reach reach…that’s all we ever do.
Give me some LEAN
March 9th, 2010 at 8:07 am
Anyway due to recent revelations, we all need to throw our support to the Little Polock…he will be our qb all year, for good or for bad,..so there it is. Hey now.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:09 am
I dont need to read it, I went to like 30 home games that year…and about 6 away games,..LA, Oakland and AZ. Word…and I wouldnt read anything Ray Fatto had his fat little fingers on.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:09 am
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March 9th, 2010 at 8:10 am
I’ve come around to the idea of drafting O-line in the first. Would prefer to help the Run D, but their are needs on the O-line.
Just no Campbell or Anthony Davis. And I would love to land Pouncey in the second or a trade up into the later first for him.
We got to keep Bruce clean and healthy in 2010.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:10 am
Good morning all
March 9th, 2010 at 8:13 am
Might try this plan, draft Tebow, as late as possible,…and since hes already worked with Gruden and built a relationship, it would make for nice 2011 season, if there is one…because Cable isnt surviving another 3-13 year,..which is likely going to be the final record, give or take a game…hey now….by the way, if it would take an 0-16 for Grudens return, Im all for that.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:14 am
I can one up you Bob, I went to Seattle for the All-star game festivities (didn’t go to the game) and the Giants played in Seattle right after the All-star game.
First pitch after the break, Bonds took John Halama about 460 feet. Was absolutely awesome.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:17 am
Well gotta run, have plugged the cousin enough for one day.
Sorry just excited about the idea of him replacing Vin after this year. Let’s hope Lyons doesn’t screw it up for him.
Later fellers
March 9th, 2010 at 8:19 am
Lots of 460 footers during juice era,..all good though.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:24 am
Bonds? Juicing? Noooooo… I thought it was just a medical abberation that his head grew 3 sizes in a year. LOL.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:24 am
Goodbye Javon Walker. I wish we had used you at all.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:26 am
Goodbye Javon… I am glad we paid you $930,000.00 a catch.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:32 am
I wish Al Davis would send me just 1 million.
He is wasting hundreds on others to not play football so why not pay me.
I’ll just stay in my office and collect my check like everyone else on this team.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Russell Okung (Oklahoma State), Trent Williams (Oklahoma), Bryan Bulaga (Iowa) and Anthony Russell Okung (Oklahoma State), Trent Williams (Oklahoma), Bryan Bulaga (Iowa) and Anthony is (Rutgers) i would take any of these guys at eight just hope all does not shock us half as much as last year. though i did like mike mitchell just not randomly at with our 2nd round pick. dhb sucks james jett would kick his a$$.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:42 am
Grab Ben Tate in the 5th
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20100303/SPORTS0402/3030380/1007/news01/Tate-shows-speed-skills-at-NFL-scouting-combine
March 9th, 2010 at 8:43 am
I worry about Bulaga and his short arms. We could draft a guard in a later round that should be good. We don’t need to draft Bulaga at 8 and then move him to guard.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:45 am
hey ill sit on the bench for two seasons and take a fraction of what walker was given. but hey cant be mad at javon if some senile old man offered you 55 million six year contract i woiuld have signed it also!!!!
March 9th, 2010 at 8:48 am
And if we are going to draft a guard that early, I would take Iupatai.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:49 am
- Okung: he wont be available at #8
- Bulaga: he wont be an option since Gallery failed at LT and was a much better prospect than Bulaga is.
So it should be between Anthony Davis or Trent Williams:
My pick is Trent Williams since he ran the second best 40 time for a OL (after Bruce Cambell)
I just hope Bruce Cambell is not an option at #8, but…
March 9th, 2010 at 8:50 am
Iupati is going to be the best lineman in this draft, but he is a guard.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:51 am
after reading that what makes you think ben tate will be around in the fifth round? he even stated that he thinks he would go between the 2nd and the 4th. actually in al davis eyes he could be a #8 pick. haha hope not would be nice to pick this guy up though somewhere between 2nd-5th though sounds nice.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:59 am
Morning Nation
March 9th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Vegas,
Why don’t you like Anthony Davis??
March 9th, 2010 at 9:08 am
Is Ryan Lilja a fit for us at G? Colts let him go…
March 9th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Ryan who????????????????????
March 9th, 2010 at 9:12 am
I left last night before TJ addressed me regarding the JR situation. If he’s not here now, someone remind me later to ask him why his story changed from “I knew all about it” to “wait and see if it’s true” through the course of the night. I wish that liar would at least learn how to keep his story straight.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:13 am
Ryan Lilja, Colts starter for awhile, 28 yrs old…
March 9th, 2010 at 9:13 am
# Raider75 Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 8:32 am
I wish Al Davis would send me just 1 million.
He is wasting hundreds on others to not play football so why not pay me.
I’ll just stay in my office and collect my check like everyone else on this team.
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How fast can you run a 40?
March 9th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Hell yeah, let’s take a look at him.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:16 am
Jonesy941
Yeah, I think he will be there, maybe if they are interested and feel he will be gone by then I would spend a 4 on him. HE thinks 2-4, what I am hearing is 5th-6th
March 9th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Anyone know why the Colts released Lilja? Thats strange to me.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:18 am
I’ve been up for a while…good morning nation!
March 9th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Al – how is that decision to convince Walker to stay looking?
March 9th, 2010 at 9:21 am
I hear the Colts cut Lilja because he couldnt run block. Not someone I would be interested in.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Green is finally gone, hooray.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Must admit, Al hanging on to Yvonne Walker was certainly one of his biggest mistakes of all time, if not the biggest.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Fargas, Walker, Green, Ellis, were these Al Davis moves, or Tom Cable moves?
Me thinks a bit of both, with a strong influence from Cable. Hope so at least…
March 9th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Hoover anyone???????????????
Sign him Al!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/03/08/1299316/twitter-report-panthers-cut-brad.html
March 9th, 2010 at 9:31 am
Last year, I asked for Green’s autograph on a yellow flag and almost got pushed to the ground, but he missed me.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:37 am
I hope your right Einstein. But, I think it’s going to be Russell.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:37 am
Jamal Williams working out in Denver.
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
http://twitter.com/michaelombardi/status/10188565052
March 9th, 2010 at 9:43 am
BTW, how do we know Jamarcus is in rehab? Has anyone reported this? Not sure where/who this came from…
March 9th, 2010 at 9:44 am
vegas raider Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 7:40 am
Give me Trent Williams, Okung won’t be there, or give me nothing!!!!
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Completely agree…
March 9th, 2010 at 9:45 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson,
It was on a TV news report. Check out the last article, someone posted it there.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:48 am
They said JaMarcus checked in for lethargy addiction. Whatever that’s supposed to mean.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:49 am
You got a source Northern?
March 9th, 2010 at 9:53 am
DMAC the sources are PriestTJ and Norco Bob, I think Vegas agreed that he heard similar news from a friend. I have yet to see this in any print media though
March 9th, 2010 at 9:53 am
It was a joke, DMAC.
Something somebody rolled with yesterday.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:54 am
http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/fck-my-life-jamarcus-russell-apparently-being-treated-narcotics-lethargy-addiction-1349610/
March 9th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Russell just need to go to a fat farm.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:56 am
I googled “Lethergy Addiction” just to see if its an actual thing, and all that comes up is message boards talking about Jamarcus Russell… lol
March 9th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Maybe somebody should offer up a reality show to JR. Maybe something like Being Jamarcus Russell and put it on the NFL Network. It worked for John Daly.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:00 am
Well, well, well
perhaps Corny can do more damage with the handle of a snow shovel than he managed to do with a mop handle. (The guess here is that the most damage will be to whichever QB straps it on for the Buffies.)
I realize that most who comment on this forum have little faith in AD’s ability to assemble a roster, but who in their right mind would ever think that the Cable Guy has a clue about doing the same?
the O-line has regressed each year under Cable’s tutelage and “expertise?”
the high point of Cable’s NFL Head Coaching career has been the “grasping at straws” move to bench JaLethargy in favor of Mr Spunky, Bruce.
I sure hope that Hue Jack, Michalczik, Marshall and Waufle pay little attention to Cable’s wishes about who to play and how to do it.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Yeah I can see Al listing to a coach with a lifetime record of what 9-35 in college and whats his amazing pro record not much better , Cable one of the few HC we have had that if you told me Al fired him and is gonna take over HC duties I wouldn’t be that upset.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:05 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vjCah-ZG5g&feature=player_embedded
It was on the Becht thread. My bad.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:05 am
I am glad to see some of you are finally coming to your senses about Cable.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:08 am
Lethargy basically means lazy. How can you be addicted to lazy?
Being addicted to pain killers, etc. can cause laziness.
So that would explain missing meetings, showing up late, not focusing on the plays.
My guess is that he also an inaccuracy addiction too…
March 9th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Dakota as much as I agree with you about Cable. I also remember that there were several good coaches that we tried to bring in and they told us to go jump in a lake. So, I’m just curious what good coach do you see coming to the Raiders as a head coach?
March 9th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Cable is just another puppet for Davis, Gruden was the last coach to win in Oakland, His only problem was he became the face of the Raiders and Davis was not going for it. That is why no quality coach will set foot in Oakland.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:16 am
The Big Banana Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:13 am
# Raider75 Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 8:32 am
I wish Al Davis would send me just 1 million.
He is wasting hundreds on others to not play football so why not pay me.
I’ll just stay in my office and collect my check like everyone else on this team.
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How fast can you run a 40?
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Can you throw a football really far?
March 9th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Cable’s fine for now. He’s here to stop the bleeding and get the team headed in the right direction. Build a positive attitude, etc. Once they do that, then a quality coach may hop in a take over.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:20 am
# Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 7:39 am
By the way, Beeecham is still an idiot.
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Correction…Beecham is still a slapped on, spineless, white flag waving, cowardly joke of a woman, idiot.
After all, there is a difference.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:20 am
AL Davis = AL zheimer’s
March 9th, 2010 at 10:20 am
If he does half of those things why would we get rid of him?
March 9th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Barry your fave?
Fave what?
# Norco Bob Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 7:59 am
Barry Bonds has always been my fave,…still is…word.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:22 am
bcz24 Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:21 am
I hear the Colts cut Lilja because he couldnt run block. Not someone I would be interested in.
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Exactly. We dont need a guy like that at all.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:27 am
# Einste1n Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Fargas, Walker, Green, Ellis, were these Al Davis moves, or Tom Cable moves?
Me thinks a bit of both, with a strong influence from Cable. Hope so at least…
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Cable moves?
Geez…just when I think you can’t make a cotton ball look bright, you prove me wrong.
Cable has zero input, and you wonder if these decisions WERE HIS?
ARE YOU HONESTLY THIS STUPID?
Cable is off in lala land, while assts are signed, players released..is let know from reporters that Hue was hired…someone that a HEAD COACH WOULD NORMALLY HIRE..and you wonder if Cable was behind these moves?
Slap a DUH on your forehead.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:28 am
LT – NEED / Barnes
LG – Gallery / Morris
C – NEED / Satele / Morris
RG – NEED / Carlisle
RT – Henderson / Pears
DE – Seymour / Richardson
DT – Kelly / Bryant
DT – NEED / NEED
DE – Sho’Nasty / NEED /Scott(LB)
I dont want to see anything but the lines built this offseason.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Lilja HAS to be an upgrade over Carlisle though…
March 9th, 2010 at 10:30 am
??????? Raider Nation ????????????
Ravens will take a first rounder for Jared Gaither??
Should uncle Al pull the trigger???
What do you guys think??
March 9th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Ryan Mathews is gonna be a stud IMO
His running style reminds a little of AP’s style.
I still would love to see a all everything LB like Weatherspoon on the Raiders.
He brings it all to the table and can play all 3 LB spots and is a natural leader and play maker who is tough, athletic and a vocal high character guy.
Spoon is the type of player the Raiders need on this team…..badly.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:31 am
first off, as an airline employee i know a lot of people that have dealt with Bonds and all say he’s an ass.
for the Raiders , of course Al needs to die, and has anyone thought about round2 of the draft getting ilb spikes, maybe a good pick.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:32 am
I just hope the Chokers don’t draft Mathews.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:32 am
Rich… do you have any insight to provide at all? All I ever see you do is repost other peoples comments and try to rip them to shreds. I know in YOUR world you feel like you are the king but the rest of us really just glaze over your posts. I try to read some of what you say but you never say anything other than bashing people or calling them stupid or morons. Get over yourself. Post something productive or shut the F*** up!
March 9th, 2010 at 10:32 am
# SteveAlford21 Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:12 am
I left last night before TJ addressed me regarding the JR situation. If he’s not here now, someone remind me later to ask him why his story changed from “I knew all about it” to “wait and see if it’s true” through the course of the night. I wish that liar would at least learn how to keep his story straight.
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That was pretty funny.
Funniest part is TJ stating “I actually HAD SOMEONE FOLLOWING JR AROUND, REPORTING BACK TO ME..but then I told him to stop because I kept getting reports”…
Of course, when you call him on it?
He goes into his “I DON’T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT NOW” mode.
Idiot savants reign supreme….only problem his area of expertise is in amnesia.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:34 am
bcz24 Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Lilja HAS to be an upgrade over Carlisle though…
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I dont think he would be at all. Colts were last in the league in rushing. And he had Peyton Manning throwing the ball so you know he didnt have to pass block that great.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:34 am
damn it
one last time
FALSE START #74 OFFENSE 5 YARD PENALTY, REPEAT 3RD DOWN
March 9th, 2010 at 10:34 am
I hope the chokers are looking at Spiller. I for one don’t want to see Ryan Matthews running all over the Raiders.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:35 am
That’s the thing about Barry Bonds..there isn’t a person alive who will state he’s anything but an ass.
Of course, waving bankrolls around guarantees he’ll always have an entourage awaiting every word, and thankful for every tab picked up.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:36 am
I can’t wait for Barry to do the perp walk.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Ghost to the Post,
Name a HC other than Art Shell or Joe Bugel and you have probably named a coach more qualified than Tom Cable.
Fassel, Gilbride, Billick and Mariucci just to name a few…then you can go to the NFL assistant coaches…then you can go into the college ranks…there are many coaches that would jump at the chance to either get into the NFL or to get back into the HC ranks.
Face it, the only reason Cable is still HC is because Al didn’t want to replace him with a coach that would be under contract in 2011 when the lockout occurs. Al will just let Cable’s contract expire at the end of this year and lower his overhead instead of having to pay a decent coach $3-$5 million for nothing in 2011.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:37 am
speaking of bonds, the roids he was on allegedly were for cattle. im surprised he wasn’t grazing on the grass out in left field
March 9th, 2010 at 10:39 am
DMAC Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:30 am
??????? Raider Nation ????????????
Ravens will take a first rounder for Jared Gaither??
Should uncle Al pull the trigger???
What do you guys think??
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Not with the # 8 pick.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Dakota Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Ghost to the Post,
Name a HC other than Art Shell or Joe Bugel and you have probably named a coach more qualified than Tom Cable.
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So you would take Callahan, Mike White, Lance? How about Ditka?
March 9th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Trade DMAC for Jared Gaither! Even Dakota would sign off on that one.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:41 am
It’s a tough ? because we all know how Al drafts in the 1st round. At least we would get a legit young LT.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Dakota Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Ghost to the Post,
Name a HC other than Art Shell or Joe Bugel and you have probably named a coach more qualified than Tom Cable.
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It seems that bad because of the blow outs. But they have played harder for him in my opinion.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:42 am
# NorthernD Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:48 am
They said JaMarcus checked in for lethargy addiction. Whatever that’s supposed to mean.
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Wiki-
“lethargy addiction”=is when one’s fatass refuses to get out of bed, instead choosing to watch Oprah, while wallowing in hoards of un-derserved cash, while hoards of fans boo every waddle and blubberroll.”
It’s a scientific term.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:44 am
ricochet
u missed something in your post ripping up seymour bush yesterday. aside from the house at 19, graduating after 4 yrs of college at 20. how old was he when he started school? lol. he got of high school at either 15 or 16. lol
March 9th, 2010 at 10:46 am
# DeuceDeuce Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Dakota Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Ghost to the Post,
Name a HC other than Art Shell or Joe Bugel and you have probably named a coach more qualified than Tom Cable.
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It seems that bad because of the blow outs. But they have played harder for him in my opinion.
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Always amazes me when someone runs the “plays harder for him”…this isn’t PeeWee’s, or High school…it’s the Pro’s. Every player knows the millions he hopes to make depends on how HE PERFORMS, regardless of the teams record, or current woes.
And the end of year? Where everyone states “looked good at the end”??
It’s desperation time..contract time…FA signing time coming up…draft coming up…roster setting for next year coming up…IT’S CALLED BETTER PLAY MY ASS OFF OR MIGHT NOT BE BACK NEXT YEAR, TIME.
You honestly believe even ONE player…just ONE…tells himself “Oh..well…hey..I think I’m going to go out and try this game..and not get beat..not get humbled…ALL BECAUSE OF CABLE”???
You aren’t serious, are you? lol…that “win one for the gipper” was for the movies…and cliches’.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:47 am
As bad as Cornell Green was at times, I give him some credit.
He was supposed to be a back-up. Nothing more. The Raider brain drain caused him to become the starter. They were the idiots who couldn’t draft or bring in a legit starting tackle. Green was back-up quality, who ended up with the job.
I also give him credit for being one of the few players who ripped on JaMarcus in the press. It took some guts to do that. Especially when he’s a fringe player.
Having said that, Cornell…get lost!!!
March 9th, 2010 at 10:48 am
I don’t see Mariucci working for Al Davis. And the other three you listed Dakota will be booed out of Oakland.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Richochet Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Point taken.
But the other year we were getting our asses handed to us we werent competitive in any of the games. So at least seein effort and looking decent from time to time has to count for something.
Blame cant fall on Cable only.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:50 am
cornell should have never ripped anyone. how many 1st down conversions were over turned because of one of his penalties. plus the fact that we’d have to back up all the time because of his false starts. im glad to see him go, but why in the hell is pears still on this roster. yeah he’s better than nothing, but nothing is running a real close second
March 9th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Richochet Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:42 am
# NorthernD Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:48 am
They said JaMarcus checked in for lethargy addiction. Whatever that’s supposed to mean.
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Wiki-
“lethargy addiction”=is when one’s fatass refuses to get out of bed, instead choosing to watch Oprah, while wallowing in hoards of un-derserved cash, while hoards of fans boo every waddle and blubberroll.”
It’s a scientific term.
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LOL
Thanks for that. My medical dictionary got covered in marshmallows when JaMarcus came over. I can’t open the pages now.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:51 am
# new englandraider Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:44 am
ricochet
u missed something in your post ripping up seymour bush yesterday. aside from the house at 19, graduating after 4 yrs of college at 20. how old was he when he started school? lol. he got of high school at either 15 or 16. lol
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You’re right, lol.
BUT..you left out the best part
When asked “HOW IS IT ANY LENDER, IN THE COUNTRY gave a full time student, who wasn’t working, who’s 19, a loan to buy a house?”…
His answer??
‘Seymour Bush Says:
March 3rd, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Wack job how do you know I didn’t have a hit band at the age of 18?
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Laugh my ass off every time…I mean, hell, if you’re going to lie..might as well make it a doozy.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:51 am
I was 100% sure you guys were joking about that lethargy addiction thing. Never heard of it in my life. Ridonkulous.
Is there a chance the columnist who wrote that was joking and that NBC news station that reported it is completely gullible? Sounds insane.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:52 am
If Cable isn’t being booed out of Oakland, why would those other guys get booed out of Oakland? Do Raider fans not like to see professional football?
March 9th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Ahhh, what a wonderful surprise!
Here I just return from a post post Oscar party (man, that Julia Roberts can make a MEAN mimosa) to find 2 of my favorite minions falling all over themselves in anticipation of my arrival!
Of course, lil Albert has been my loyal English servant for a long time, and is well schooled in the proper ways to serve and honor me.
And then there is my newest minion in training, my soft, tender little poodle – rico-pet!
Although my poodle is still lost, confused and above all, VERY SCARED from a weekend of instruction and humiliation, I have hope his little poodle brain will recover enough to carry on in his training.
My puppy knows he can’t qualify to serve and honor me overnight!
And, good folks of the blog, I hope to soon embark on training the rest of his poodle family – starting with his ill trained kids – in the ways of Alpha Dog domination and superiority.
That is, if my poodle will ever stop running and hiding from the question!
Awwwwww, isn’t he adorable? Right now he’s hiding in his cubicle, shaking in fear and peeing his Dockers at the thought of standing his ground for the 1st time!
Oh man – those eggs benedict Denzel whipped up are ready to come out the back end, if you bros know what I mean!
Damn you, hollandaise sauce!
March 9th, 2010 at 10:52 am
hey where is rockstar today? he must be watching over the games from last season, trying in vain to find the elusive play(s) in which mike mitchell gave up last season.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:55 am
rico
lol. a hit band. i missed that. busy guy, band, school work, blogger. what band was he in? flock of seagulls perhaps. maybe right said fred
March 9th, 2010 at 10:56 am
Because we are currently booing at the QB in Oakland. And I think for the most part Cable has endeared himself to the fan base.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:57 am
Let’s sign Hoover! Was a great blocking FB for Williams and Stewart.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:57 am
Trade DMAC for Right Said Fred!
March 9th, 2010 at 10:58 am
DMAC Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:57 am
Let’s sign Hoover! Was a great blocking FB for Williams and Stewart.
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This. Unless Oren can get healthy…..
March 9th, 2010 at 10:58 am
I think Oren is done.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:00 am
bsj
i knew that was coming. lol. they’re too sexy for the raiders
March 9th, 2010 at 11:01 am
# DeuceDeuce Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Richochet Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Point taken.
But the other year we were getting our asses handed to us we werent competitive in any of the games. So at least seein effort and looking decent from time to time has to count for something.
Blame cant fall on Cable only.
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True..and it shouldn’t.
I think many would be surprised on how little contact players actually have, for the most part, with the head coach, on a day to day basis.
Players go off in their groups, with their respective assts…meetings are held, in groups, with those same assts…game planning is the same.
Head coach wanders between groups, for sure, and depending on the coach, pulls players aside, no doubt.
Some coaches, like Singletary, go out of their way to have a rapport with players..others seem to stand off.
I hope to hell Cable is much more affable during practice, because during games, Cable has about as much emotion as a tree truck, and never converses with players.
How in the hell can you be a head coach..during a game…and never say word one to anyone? Just don’t get it.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:01 am
DMAC Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:58 am
I think Oren is done.
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I know. Just wishful thinking….
March 9th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Chris in NY,
Yeah, Lethargy is a symptom and not a cause. It’s like being addicted to headaches or fever. Doesn’t make sense at all. Some of the ” in the know” posters last night were saying he was addicted to Robitussin or other forms of pain killers. That’s just speculation.
I don’t think they would have put that story on the air if they couldn’t substantiate though. That would be grounds for a huge lawsuit.
JaMarcus could sue, and double his money.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Richochet Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 11:01 am
lol..true…
But compared to Shell, Cable is the defintion of emotion on the sideline during games.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:04 am
Didn’t that Right said Fred singer look like Gradkowski?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:06 am
# new englandraider Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:55 am
rico
lol. a hit band. i missed that. busy guy, band, school work, blogger. what band was he in? flock of seagulls perhaps. maybe right said fred
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Yeah, lol…when called out as a LIAR, that no lender would ever give a home loan to an unemployed student, his “brilliant” retort was to claim he made beaucoup bucks with a “hit band”…at 18?
Actually his reply was “How do you know I didn’t have a hit band at 18″? lol…which is even better.
the band?
Hanna Montana?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Richochet Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 11:06 am
# new englandraider Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:55 am
rico
lol. a hit band. i missed that. busy guy, band, school work, blogger. what band was he in? flock of seagulls perhaps. maybe right said fred
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Yeah, lol…when called out as a LIAR, that no lender would ever give a home loan to an unemployed student, his “brilliant” retort was to claim he made beaucoup bucks with a “hit band”…at 18?
Actually his reply was “How do you know I didn’t have a hit band at 18″? lol…which is even better.
the band?
Hanna Montana?
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do the math. He said was 29 now.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:07 am
BoSJack,
it certainly would be interesting to hear Hue Jack’s thoughts on what to do with McFlawed.
Is he grumbling under his breath about the coughed pigskins and self-tackles? Is he fascinated that such a celebrated Hog seems to be good for nothing but breeding? Is he concerned that something in those skinny legs is gonna break down at the first sign of stress?
Or is Hue Jack gonna be a gung-ho cheerleader urging his young RB to new heights (at least until the inevitable failures resurface)?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:10 am
# DeuceDeuce Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Richochet Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 11:01 am
lol..true…
But compared to Shell, Cable is the defintion of emotion on the sideline during games.
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LMAO…boy, isn’t that the truth.
Still laugh at the instance when Shell was asked “You never say anything to anybody during the games. Yet you always are seen writing on your clipboard. Are you making notes of players? Things to work on? Things you noticed?”
Shell: “I’m not always writing down things pertaining to football”
Which reporters had a field day with…”shopping list for dinner tonight?”….”don’t forget to stop at cleaners”??…”If I forget to pick up kids again, wife is going to kick my ass”??
funny stuff
March 9th, 2010 at 11:13 am
# NorthernD Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Richochet Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 11:06 am
# new englandraider Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:55 am
rico
lol. a hit band. i missed that. busy guy, band, school work, blogger. what band was he in? flock of seagulls perhaps. maybe right said fred
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Yeah, lol…when called out as a LIAR, that no lender would ever give a home loan to an unemployed student, his “brilliant” retort was to claim he made beaucoup bucks with a “hit band”…at 18?
Actually his reply was “How do you know I didn’t have a hit band at 18″? lol…which is even better.
the band?
Hanna Montana?
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do the math. He said was 29 now.
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Boy George?…no…that was too long ago…
Leif Garrett??…
I know…Mickey Dolenz from the Monkees….oh damn…nope.
Milli Vinilli?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Super Furry Animals
Belle and Sebastian
Josh Wink
Fatboy Slim
March 9th, 2010 at 11:16 am
Ghost to the Post Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:56 am
…And I think for the most part Cable has endeared himself to the fan base.
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That is so sad. Some in the Nation embrace losing and losing badly…why is that?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Hootie and the Blowfish
March 9th, 2010 at 11:17 am
IF WE DRAFT AN OL WITH THE 1ST PICK, WE GOTTA MOVE MARIO TO THE RIGHT
March 9th, 2010 at 11:20 am
By losing Green we have upgraded.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Hootie and the Blowfish are always playing at the Silverton Hotel and Casino!
March 9th, 2010 at 11:22 am
# NorthernD Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Chris in NY,
Yeah, Lethargy is a symptom and not a cause. It’s like being addicted to headaches or fever. Doesn’t make sense at all. Some of the ” in the know” posters last night were saying he was addicted to Robitussin or other forms of pain killers. That’s just speculation.
I don’t think they would have put that story on the air if they couldn’t substantiate though. That would be grounds for a huge lawsuit.
JaMarcus could sue, and double his money.
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Without taking the time to read through it all, seems like Norco bobbo was playing around, running his usual “hot tip” designed to rile, and Priest took the bait, and started on his “Oh, I knew that all along..as a matter of fact my people have been on it since day one, keeping me informed..I just never wanted to tell anyone”.
IF Bobbo did just make it up, for fun, then it goes down as an instant classic bait job, that TJ stupidly fell for.
Norco’s stock would rise…
And TJ’s would plummet….oh wait..too late.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Is he fascinated that such a celebrated Hog seems to be good for nothing but breeding?
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LMFAO. And I concur on the “inevitable failures”.
I wonder where he would have ended up if we had passed on him. Ahhh, to dream.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Rob Tidwell: “No…I AM NOT HOOTIE!!”
March 9th, 2010 at 11:24 am
*Rod
March 9th, 2010 at 11:25 am
i got it. deep blue something. you know the one hit wonders. one and only hit song was breakfast at tiffany’s. maybe he is still getting residuals from that jam.
and i said what about breakfast at tiffany’s she said i think i remember the film and as i recall we both kinda liked it and i said well that’s the one thing we’ve got
March 9th, 2010 at 11:37 am
I really don’t know if we have embraced losing. I think we have all tired of the comings and goings of Head Coaches to the point that we all feel a need to keep a head coach for more than one year. Even if it’s Tom Cable. The teams that have success in the NFL have stability at the head spot. We need it. And by firing Cable, Kiffin, Shell, Turner, and Callahan, it’s just not building any continuity for our team.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:37 am
I dont think Bob started the rumor, although he may have started it on this blog. If you google Jamarcus there are a bunch of links pointing to him being in rehab.
Since Lethargy Addiction is not an actual condition, it appears to be a satirical take on #2s attitude, he wouldnt be able to sue for slander or defemation. He is a public figure and therefore is not about satirization.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Dakota Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 11:16 am
Ghost to the Post Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:56 am
…And I think for the most part Cable has endeared himself to the fan base.
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That is so sad. Some in the Nation embrace losing and losing badly…why is that?
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Embracing Cable is not embracing losing..
March 9th, 2010 at 11:46 am
If 20-54 isn’t losing I don’t know what is….
March 9th, 2010 at 11:48 am
Cable Bumaye
March 9th, 2010 at 11:51 am
So Cable is to blame for 20-54? Thats like saying Obama is to blame for the bad economy he inherited.
Good leaders work to turn around the problems they find. We have fewer pealties, a team that plys hard, a cohesive locker room, a coach who wants to be a Raider, a coach who can work WITH Al Davis.
I do not know what other coach could have accomplished so much, so quickly. Next step: cut McFumblin.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:52 am
The “rumor” was started in an article by Peterson that appears on this very site where we’re all posting… and was first posted in the comments by Vegas.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/sports/ci_14526908
The weird thing is that I can’t in good interest be sure that it’s a joke or satire, because it’s far too plausible to be sure. It’s kind of like when an article on The Onion is just too close to reality to be certain that it isn’t true.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:55 am
I think continuity and dysfunctionalism are more to blame for that 20 and 54 record.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:56 am
O yeah and crappy draft picks. Like McFumbles and J fat a s s.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:56 am
So now the head football coach has no accountability for his team’s records?
LMAO what world do you guys live in?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:56 am
I think Peterson was joking Steve. In that vein, Russell is not actually a walrus either. At least not ALL walrus. I think.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:57 am
But BSJ-if we cut the kid with the skinny legs,now that Fargas is gone we won’t get to see all those 4 yd gains turned into 80 yard TDs.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Cables record at Idaho should not be included in his Raider record.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:59 am
In my heart, I feel AL knows that JR regressed badly and he is willing to give him a chance if only he puts on the effort needed. There are some of you who said JR would be the starter right away I doubt it, JR starts only if he wins the open competition and yes it is an open competition, why I think so? Simply, if AL wanted JR to start, all he could do is fire Cable and hire Hue as the head coach and force him to start JR. Cable said it clearly at end of the of the season, he said JR is the reason we weren’t a playoff team, he didn’t blame the defense or lack of running game, he blamed JR. Therefore, Cable is retained cause AL believes him and JR is given a chance to compete, if he comes in and learns, he might win, I seriously doubt it. Gradkowitzki will be our starting QB.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Lefty,
We are discussing Tom Cable, not the Raiders. As a head coach Tom Cable is 20-54. In the real world people are judged by their record…Cable is a flop as a HC.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
If he went to the Colts and had that record. I would agree with you. But, were talking about the Raiders who haven’t had any continuity in the past two decades.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
You can rip the Raiders from now until eternity.
You can rip every aspect of the team that you want.
But the bottom line is this:
The single-biggest reason for the Raiders failures over the past 7 years is poor QB play.
Couple that with a bad offensive line and this is what you get.
In all these years, if we had a good quarterback, it would minimize the criticism from every other aspect of the team, including the coaching staff.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Derek Anderson???????? (Just released)
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/HeadLines.aspx?sport=NFL&hl=169519
March 9th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Cable is accountable for this team performing much better (as detailed above), but he cannot be accountable for failing to turn sh!t (JRUSS, DMAC, DHB) into wins. At least not immediately.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
# Dakota Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Lefty,
We are discussing Tom Cable, not the Raiders. As a head coach Tom Cable is 20-54. In the real world people are judged by their record…Cable is a flop as a HC.
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Come on now – who gives a rat’s ass what his college record was?
Why are you throwing that into the mix?
Why not be objective and simply analyze what he has done as a head coach in the NFL, with the circumstances he was faced with on THIS TEAM?????
March 9th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Silver-N-Smac Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
You can rip the Raiders from now until eternity.
You can rip every aspect of the team that you want.
But the bottom line is this:
The single-biggest reason for the Raiders failures over the past 7 years is poor QB play.
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Well, what about the fact that the Raiders only have 6 winning seasons in the 20 years since the Free Agency era began in 1989?
March 9th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Wrong Dakota-totally different.Carroll wasn’t that good at NY or NE but look what he did at USC.Saben is a great College coach who flunked out at the pro level.Same with Petrino.Just 3 examples-there are many more.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Just got here and already time to say goodbye!
Food time!
March 9th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Derek Anderson is done in Cleveland
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 9, 2010 2:44 PM ET
Derek Anderon’s rollercoaster career in Cleveland has come to its logical conclusion.
The Browns released Anderson Tuesday, well aware that no one wanted him via trade with a monster roster bonus due in ten days.
The Oregon State product was picked off the waiver wire in one of former G.M. Phil Savage’s best moves, and made the Pro Bowl in 2007 on the strength of vertical passing and an easy schedule.
Things fell apart dramatically since, as Anderson’s accuracy and decision-making were among the league’s worst the last two years.
With all that out of the way, Anderson now becomes the best free agent quarterback available. (This was a market in which four teams showed interest in David Carr.)
We’re just speculating, but Arizona, Carolina, and Oakland are three places that would make logical suitors.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
So what you guys are saying is that no HC can succeed in Oakland due to Al Davis?
I certainly will not defend Al Davis.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Dakota Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Lefty,
We are discussing Tom Cable, not the Raiders. As a head coach Tom Cable is 20-54. In the real world people are judged by their record…Cable is a flop as a HC.
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So Jimmy Johnson should have been fired after going 1-15?
March 9th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Silver-N-Smac Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
You can rip the Raiders from now until eternity.
You can rip every aspect of the team that you want.
But the bottom line is this:
The single-biggest reason for the Raiders failures over the past 7 years is poor QB play.
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Well, what about the fact that the Raiders only have 6 winning seasons in the 20 years since the Free Agency era began in 1989?
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Same exact thing: Poor QB play has had more to do with the Raiders down years than any other factor.
Of course, this isn’t rocket science. You can say that about most teams’ down years.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
After reading the artical it is total sarcasm referring to the rumors of Jruss being in the gym. Wow… talk about blown out of proportion.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
lefty12 Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Wrong Dakota-totally different.Carroll wasn’t that good at NY or NE but look what he did at USC.Saben is a great College coach who flunked out at the pro level.Same with Petrino.Just 3 examples-there are many more.
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Well, I guess that bodes well for Cable’s next HC gig….in high school.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Dakota Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
So what you guys are saying is that no HC can succeed in Oakland due to Al Davis?
I certainly will not defend Al Davis.
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You are purposefully ignoring all of the reasons ANY coach would have a bad record in 08-09. They are: bad FA signings, bad QB, bad RB, very young team, meddling owner with outdated concepts.
Dakota, just for curiousity’s sake, in your skewed opinion how would (insert stud coach here) have fared here over the last 2 years, record wise? With the same players and DC.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Silver-N-Smac
Well, I guess I can’t disagree, since the Raiders haven’t been able to develop a QB since 1972.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
BTW, Cable is not 20-54 as the Raiders HC. That implies he has led this team for nearly five seasons.
Cable is 9-19. Admit it or not, the team has changed for the better in those 28 games. This despite the sorry young skill players he is required to utilize.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Some people have to have somebody or something to hate.Right now Cable is an easy target for them.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Jamarcus Russell = Todd Marinovich
March 9th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
There are ways to win even with mediocre QB, the Ravens won a Superbowl with Trent Dilfer, last year both the Titans and 49ers won some games with mediocre QBs in V Young and A Smith. If the Raiders can’t develop a QB, they should develop all other positions, like have a solid defense and good running game, we need to change the offensive philosophy to help our QB. Run the ball and stop the run should help.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
What’s the confusion?
it’s Al.
Always been on Al. Will remain to be on Al.
When a head coach has NO say in things? Does it matter who that guy is?
Yeah, Cable is a tree stump…nothing more.
but that’s what Al wants…a meek, toe the company line, make no waves, jump when I say jump, tree stump.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Yeah it’s called “D” and that is something else we lack
March 9th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
There are ways to win even with mediocre QB, the Ravens won a Superbowl with Trent Dilfer, last year both the Titans and 49ers won some games with mediocre QBs in V Young and A Smith. If the Raiders can’t develop a QB, they should develop all other positions, like have a solid defense and good running game, we need to change the offensive philosophy to help our QB. Run the ball and stop the run should help.
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That was supposed to be the strategy the past few years…Might have worked with better play at QB.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Well said Lefty.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
If we would have closed the deal with Sean Peyton he would have been fired by now.
So the Head Coach doesnt matter that much.
I agree with Rich Seymour. We need better position coaches, better teachers. To develop the players.
Bottom line, you cant coach undeveloped players.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
I don’t blame Cable for anything unless it was his idea to start two rookie WRs, I do blame him for his game plan. We could have run the ball more aggressively. I blame the GM for being a bad talent evaluator, we needed a return game, we needed more depth in our OL and WRs positions. No team would ever start two rookies in the WRs position regardless of injury. DHB clearly needed to come in slowly, Watkins should have been cut in training camp and we needed some veteran Wrs and we still do.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
BTW, Cable is not 20-54 as the Raiders HC. That implies he has led this team for nearly five seasons.
Cable is 9-19. Admit it or not, the team has changed for the better in those 28 games. This despite the sorry young skill players he is required to utilize.
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I never said or implied Cable is 20-54 with the Raiders…if you read into what i said that is your problem.
As to the Raiders, was it his ability to rally the team to win two games in a row that wowed you last year? Or even compete in two games in a row? Or was it his explosive offense? Was it the increased win total from the year before? Was it his professionalism? Was it his ability to make adjustments? Was it Al’s glowing endorsement at the end of the year? Was it the outstanding o-line play? Was it the play of special teams?
What exactly impressed you about Cable other than a couple of players who came out in his defense (they did the same for Kiffin) and his benching of Russell?
March 9th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
I don’t blame Cable for anything unless it was his idea to start two rookie WRs, I do blame him for his game plan. We could have run the ball more aggressively. I blame the GM for being a bad talent evaluator, we needed a return game, we needed more depth in our OL and WRs positions. No team would ever start two rookies in the WRs position regardless of injury. DHB clearly needed to come in slowly, Watkins should have been cut in training camp and we needed some veteran Wrs and we still do.
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Teams knew all we could do was run. Look at the games we won or were in. All of them have the same thing in common….we were able to pass the ball enough to keep the D honest.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
I don’t think we need coaches, I think we missing key players to win. We have no depth in our key positions for example we have no good backups for Gallery, Asmough, Schillens, etc. To expect all our starting players to remain healthy the whole season is basically. Therefore, we need to improve our roster through FA and draft, we need better backup players, good veterans and good leaders in both sides of the field. Coaches are to teach but talent needs to be there for them to succeed.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
If we would have closed the deal with Sean Peyton he would have been fired by now.
So the Head Coach doesnt matter that much.
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Lol, yeah right.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
What exactly impressed you about Cable other than a couple of players who came out in his defense (they did the same for Kiffin) and his benching of Russell?
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The players have vouched for him. Thats enough for me.
Cowher, or Gruden(unfortunatley) or any other big time coach aint walkin thru that door.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
lefty12 Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Some people have to have somebody or something to hate. Right now Cable is an easy target for them.
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They anger and hate should be aimed at Al Davis. He is the lame idiot who makes all the decisions within this screwed up organization.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Dakota Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
If we would have closed the deal with Sean Peyton he would have been fired by now.
So the Head Coach doesnt matter that much.
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Lol, yeah right
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Thats it? Yea right?
March 9th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
What exactly impressed you about Cable other than a couple of players who came out in his defense (they did the same for Kiffin) and his benching of Russell?
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Fewer penalties, a team that plays hard, a cohesive locker room, a coach who wants to be a Raider, a coach who can work WITH Al Davis, saving Gallery, professionalism at the podium, a more mature roster, benching Al’s great QB, acknowledging a need for an OC, not wanting to keep Rob Ryan, attacking Al’s spy, and keeping his women in line.
OK, just joking on that last one – wanted to reward you for reading it through.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Oh, and I do not remember players defending Kiffin as they have with Cable. Not at all.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Teams knew all we could do was run. Look at the games we won or were in. All of them have the same thing in common….we were able to pass the ball enough to keep the D honest.
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I agree but to run three plays in the middle of the pile is plain dumb, we rarely used two TE formations or even HB draw plays in third down, it seemed like more often the plays were predictable especially for those fans who watched the game weekly. The playbook was very simple same plays over and over again. Too many three and out plays. I agree if we pass we can run concept, but sometimes all you need is what the defense gives you for example if there are 8 men in the box, most probably in third down there would be a blitz, keep the running back next to you and play a draw play that can get you over 10 yards. How many times we seen Vince Young play a draw play for CJ, or a draw play for F Gore, I rarely seen a draw play by the Raiders. We only had one reverse play against Houston I believe.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
And benching Javon.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
What exactly impressed you about Cable other than a couple of players who came out in his defense (they did the same for Kiffin) and his benching of Russell?
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The players have vouched for him. Thats enough for me.
Cowher, or Gruden(unfortunatley) or any other big time coach aint walkin thru that door.
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Do you see me asking for those guys? Nope, I just desire a HC that is moderately competent. Do you think I want to wish for a journeyman like Fassel? Five years ago I would have laughed at the thought…but two years of Cable have be wishing for a guy that is at least competent…Fassel wouldn’t have us in the SB, but at least he would have us looking like a professional football team.
In less than two years Cable has produced 13 losses by 14 or more points…including that franchise worst regular season loss against the Giants…I seriously doubt that would have happened under a legit NFL HC.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
I am really impressed with the Broncos moves, they signed three DL so far and one of them is Jarvis Green, a huge body who can stop the run. I wish AL signs Jamaal Williams, he single handedly was responsible for SD run defense.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Teams knew all we could do was run. Look at the games we won or were in. All of them have the same thing in common….we were able to pass the ball enough to keep the D honest.
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I agree but to run three plays in the middle of the pile is plain dumb, we rarely used two TE formations or even HB draw plays in third down, it seemed like more often the plays were predictable especially for those fans who watched the game weekly. The playbook was very simple same plays over and over again. Too many three and out plays. I agree if we pass we can run concept, but sometimes all you need is what the defense gives you for example if there are 8 men in the box, most probably in third down there would be a blitz, keep the running back next to you and play a draw play that can get you over 10 yards. How many times we seen Vince Young play a draw play for CJ, or a draw play for F Gore, I rarely seen a draw play by the Raiders. We only had one reverse play against Houston I believe.
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If we had the talent on the oline to do a draw then…..lol.
Any time we tried anything outside of vanilla it backfired because of the oline.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Do you see me asking for those guys? Nope, I just desire a HC that is moderately competent. Do you think I want to wish for a journeyman like Fassel? Five years ago I would have laughed at the thought…but two years of Cable have be wishing for a guy that is at least competent…Fassel wouldn’t have us in the SB, but at least he would have us looking like a professional football team.
In less than two years Cable has produced 13 losses by 14 or more points…including that franchise worst regular season loss against the Giants…I seriously doubt that would have happened under a legit NFL HC.
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He also has had bigger wins than any coach since Callahan.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Raiders4eve, there may be some truth to the rumor that the playbook was dumbed down for Russell. Certainly he did not audible to better plays when the D was set up to stuff our first call. Our playcaller will always be hamstrung with that addict under center.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Oh, and I do not remember players defending Kiffin as they have with Cable. Not at all.
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Really, you don’t remember Nnamdi going on NFL Total Access and defending Kiffin before he was fired?
And a cohesive locker-room? You have zero proof of that. Professionalism at the podium? Maybe compared to Rob Ryan lol. The guy just sits there and says the same schyt week in and week out….we have to get better, we have to push through that door, we have to just keep working. You buy that schyt?
A more mature roster? What does that even mean? Did you check Richard Seymour for grey bush? Acknowledging a need for a OC? Was that after he took it away last year or when it was taken from him this offseason? The guy would say anything to keep his job, doesn’t mean he really thinks he needed an OC, nor has it been proven as of yet that Jackson is calling the plays in 2010.
I do like your last three points though…
March 9th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Silver-n-Smac Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
You can rip the Raiders from now until eternity.
You can rip every aspect of the team that you want.
But the bottom line is this:
The single-biggest reason for the Raiders failures over the past 7 years is poor QB play.
Couple that with a bad offensive line and this is what you get.
In all these years, if we had a good quarterback, it would minimize the criticism from every other aspect of the team, including the coaching staff.
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It all starts at the top and Al Davis is the one to blame for this mess….PERIOD! HAHA
March 9th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Rumor? Didn’t Cable come right out and say that Russell was given 40% of the playbook in 2008 and 80% this past year
March 9th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Al Davis takes meat in his seat.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Dakota
What Coach can win with this kind of talent? We only have few key players and the rest are more likely backups in this league or seem to need time to learn the game like DHB. You bring any coach in here and he will struggle, it seems some of you guys over evaluate our roster. TK and Warren are not good players, Ellis was injured, TH, KK and Ricky Brown are not consistent performers, CJ gets burned a lot, Branch doesn’t force any turnover, actually the whole defense doesn’t. Offensively, our OL is the worst in the league especially our RT, RG and Center positions with no clear competition and depth. Our QB is JR for 9 games, we started two rookies WRs, where is the talent?
March 9th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
I am really impressed with the Broncos moves, they signed three DL so far and one of them is Jarvis Green, a huge body who can stop the run. I wish AL signs Jamaal Williams, he single handedly was responsible for SD run defense.
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The orange ponies are also expected to talk to Williams.
Unreal…the orange ponies are making D-Line additions that the Raiders should be making, since they need it more than the Ponies.
If the Ponies get Jamal Williams and the Raiders don’t…..expect another loooooong dreadful season in Oakland.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
He also has had bigger wins than any coach since Callahan.
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Like what? The Pitt win? He beat the Broncos, Pitt and TB when they were collapsing…and the Broncos game and the TB game he only won because of injuries to Fargas which forced him to play Bush. Yeah, what a record!
March 9th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Raider HC records since 2003:
Norv 9-23, .290
Shell (2006) 2-14, .125
Kiffin 5-15, .250
Cable 9-19, .321
March 9th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Dakota
What Coach can win with this kind of talent? We only have few key players and the rest are more likely backups in this league or seem to need time to learn the game like DHB. You bring any coach in here and he will struggle, it seems some of you guys over evaluate our roster. TK and Warren are not good players, Ellis was injured, TH, KK and Ricky Brown are not consistent performers, CJ gets burned a lot, Branch doesn’t force any turnover, actually the whole defense doesn’t. Offensively, our OL is the worst in the league especially our RT, RG and Center positions with no clear competition and depth. Our QB is JR for 9 games, we started two rookies WRs, where is the talent?
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Talents there. Just utilized wrong.
Kelly should be a DE like Seymour
Kirk should be a OLB
Russell should be a TE etc…lol
March 9th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
And a cohesive locker-room? You have zero proof of that.
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Jerry has noted this several times, particularly at seasons end.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Dakota Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
He also has had bigger wins than any coach since Callahan.
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Like what? The Pitt win? He beat the Broncos, Pitt and TB when they were collapsing…and the Broncos game and the TB game he only won because of injuries to Fargas which forced him to play Bush. Yeah, what a record!
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Philly also.
You cant say hes the reason for losing. Then say hes not the reason for winning.
We wouldnt have won those games in the past.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
And im not saying hes the reason we won.
Im also not saying hes the reason we lose.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Raiders4eve,
I place more importance on coaching than you and Al Davis do I guess. Who knows how games would have turned out under another coach, but if I had to bet, I would bet they would be better than 13 blowouts in 28 games as they have been under Cable.
It is all speculation, but when you are dealing with a bottom of the barrel guy like Tom Cable, the only way to go is up with almost anyone you select over him.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
DMAC Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:32 am
I just hope the Chokers don’t draft Mathews.
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I think they will if he is there….then Mathews will be running all over the Raiders weak a$$ D-Line for the next 10 years IF the old man doesn’t start to wake the fuk up and sign Jamal Williams or trade up and get Suh.
If not that then draft Weatherspoon at #8 and then draft DT Lamarr Houston in Round 2 and then draft O-Line with those two 3rd Rounders.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Mature roster means we don’t have many punks who whine to the media, holdout, get arrested, etc.
This used to be a team full of cancers and quitters like Porter, Jordan, Moss, Woodson, Sapp, Romanowski.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Dakota, how come our “bottom of the barrel” coach has the best win pct. since 2002?
March 9th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Dakota
Bro, but you still didn’t answer my question, where is the talent to coach?
March 9th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Dakota, you blame Cable for everything that goes wrong. Then you say everything good happened despite him. Wha?
Personally, I see us in the midst of an upswing (wish I could post a graph, lol).
Norv 9-23, .290
Shell (2006) 2-14, .125
Kiffin 5-15, .250
Cable 9-19, .321
March 9th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Last time the Raider was a wining team, we had a good coach and very good talent all around. We don’t have the talent to compete with many teams. Bad OL, bad LBs and DTs, bad returners, bad QB come on guys, no talent will get you 5-11.
March 9th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Bo,
Just because you suffer from a paralyzing need to compare one schyt coach to another doesn’t mean I have to. Those guys were bums too. In your mind if the recent bum is slightly better than the last bum it is okay to keep that bum around. Sorry, I don’t operate that way.
Just because Cable might suck a little less than Art Shell doesn’t mean I am happy with him, and just because Garbagekowski isn’t as bad as Russell doesn’t mean I will settle for him either.
This is the NFL, teams are turned around in one year all of the time. Cable is going into year three…I can’t wait to hear what your justifications for retaining him are after another 10+ loss season.
March 9th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Some you guys hope we draft OL and DL but the thing is, they will be rookies, you don’t expect immediate success from rookies otherwise Ravens would have won SB every year since they draft well. Rookies need time and need mentors, I think we should get Jamal Williams, Terry Holt, Danny Clark MLB back again as a backup or Antonio Pierce as a starter, we need guys who know how to play the game, teach the young guys, one more guy Mawae is really a big need.
March 9th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Only sport where .321 is considered a good average is baseball for a hitter. Our record since Norv sucks and the coaching is one of many reasons.
Cut JaLoser!
Fire .321 Cable!
March 9th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
If Cable had started McFadden every game and gave him 20= touches a game and he still had the same record, he wouldn’t be on Dakota’s hate list.Dakota would then be on here complaining about the lack of talent on the Oline because his boy would have a 3.5 ypc avg.
BTW,Dakota,Turners record in SD isn’t so bad now that he has some decent talent,is it?
March 9th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Trade DMac for a case of cough syrup, and the bottom of a barrel!!
March 9th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Dakota,
Michael Jordan was arguably the best basketball player of all time. If you give him a pair of shoes made of concrete and have JaMarcus Russell hold onto his waist, he probably won’t be able to dunk. If you then bring in Dr. J and repeat the procedure, he might get a bit higher off the ground than Jordan did, but not much. This doesn’t mean that Jordan and Dr. J suck at jumping or are bums in the “getting off the ground” category. It just means that it’s an impossible task to accomplish given all factors involved.
I do not think the greatest coaches in history could have gone 9-7 with the Raiders teams of the past 6 or 7 years. Madden, Landry, Knoll… NO ONE could succeed with the condision of our Front Office and rosters. Cable may be far from a “great” HC, but he has the team improving on the field and reportedly in the locker room. Everything I’ve heard has been good, regarding interactions with the team itself… and that’s all that matters to me. I desperately want a winning team again, but I think that Cable is doing as good a job as is possible, given all factors involved.
March 9th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
*condition*
March 9th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Dakota Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Bo,
In your mind if the recent bum is slightly better than the last bum it is okay to keep that bum around. Sorry, I don’t operate that way.
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No, the way you operate is to blame the coach for a 30 million dollar RB who fumbles and tackles himself.
March 9th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
got things to do-adios!
March 9th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Dakota
Bro, but you still didn’t answer my question, where is the talent to coach?
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Our players have talent. Many of them were great in college, they just need guidance and a coach that knows what he is doing. Cable isn’t capable of figuring out the problem. He has proven that week in and week out. There is a reason it seems like the team makes the same mistakes all of the time…Cable doesn’t know how to fix those mistakes. Get these players a coach that knows what the hell he is doing (hopefully Jackson) and we will see what kind of talent we have.
One thing is for certain, the area where Cable has had the most influence is on the o-line, and his selection have been atrocious.
March 9th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Vegas…
I’m watching some of the Dohyer game, your cousin is doing a good job so far. I’d take him over that idiot Steiner. Don’t envy whoever take over after Vin decides to retire though.
March 9th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
what’s up with this?
All but one NFL team, the Oakland Raiders, were represented Tuesday to watch several former Sooners compete in various drills and individual workouts.
Gerald McCoy? Trent Williams?
March 9th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Bo, you really think one RB who split carries with two other guys has more to do with us losing than the HC Tom Cable?
You can waste your time riding McFadden, I will concentrate on the man that is responsible for getting the team ready to play.
March 9th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Speaking of the Dohyers.
Just heard Willie Davis passes today. RIP, 3 Dog.
March 9th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Cut Vin Scully!
March 9th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
**passeD** errrr…
March 9th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Dakota do you really think that these players are stumping for coaches? Or are they just trying to gain some sort of continuity in there lives. The revolving door of head coaches for the Raiders in mind numbing. I don’t think Nnamdi was stumping for Kiffin as much as he was hoping to just have a coach stay more than one year.
March 9th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
If you can find ZBS guys anywhere, why is the O-line so bad?
Is the ZBS still in?
Is Hue Jackson waiting for Tom Cable’s job?
March 9th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
You can waste your time riding McFadden, I will concentrate on the man that is responsible for getting the team ready to play.
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Oh, it is no waste.
How could ANY coach get DMAC “ready to play” so that he doesn’t fall down and fumble? Or hurt his little toes?
If DMAC were the only bust on offense, Cable would be expected to win a few more at the very least. Unfortunately though, he has 2 other busts at the most critical spots.
March 9th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Bo, you really think one RB who split carries with two other guys has more to do with us losing than the HC Tom Cable?
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This I know.
Cable = working on Raider victories.
McFadden = fumbling for opponent victories.
March 9th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
One thing is for certain, the area where Cable has had the most influence is on the o-line, and his selection have been atrocious.
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So the huge improvement from 2006 to 2007 was whose credit?
March 9th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Ghost to the Post Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Dakota do you really think that these players are stumping for coaches? Or are they just trying to gain some sort of continuity in there lives. The revolving door of head coaches for the Raiders in mind numbing. I don’t think Nnamdi was stumping for Kiffin as much as he was hoping to just have a coach stay more than one year.
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Continuity? Fuk that. Personally I don’t want continuity for continuity’s sake. The only continuity Cable brings is 5-11. The players are like little children, most of them just want their paycheck and they want to keep their roster spot. They know a new HC might shake things up, take them out of their comfort zone….and worst of all, RAISE EXPECTATIONS! Can you blame these players for wanting to keep Cable? His first act was to stop making them practice the plays until they got them right….hell yeah, more x-box time for the players! They like Cable for the same reason they liked Ryan, they were comfortable with him and there were no expectations.
BS
March 9th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Cable still uses stick figures on an blackboard to diagram plays. He does not have the intellect to coach a modern day offense. His play calling proves it.
March 9th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Cable for the last 2 years: “We are close to turning the corner!” lmfao
March 9th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Dakota
You think our OL is talented or our interior DTs are good enough, or our Lbs are solid, or our QB situation is any good, tell me if we have a 1000 yard receiver?
March 9th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Cable still uses stick figures on an blackboard to diagram plays.
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This is a lie. It is physically impossible to represent Jawalrus with a stick figure.
March 9th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
One thing is for certain, the area where Cable has had the most influence is on the o-line, and his selection have been atrocious.
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So the huge improvement from 2006 to 2007 was whose credit?
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I never said Cable couldn’t COACH an o-line, I said his selections for who is on the o-line roster have been atrocious. I doubt Cable had much influence over which players were on the o-line in 2007 anyhow…You like Barnes, Harris, Pears and Satele?
March 9th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Doesn’t matter. Unless the offense gets worse, Hue Jackson will be coach in 2011. Consider…if Hue gets this offense to perform or even improve, he’ll be one hot commodity next off-season. Then Davis will have to choose between losing his line coach or losing the OC. And he won’t choose the former.
On the other hand, if the offense remains stagnant, Hue may not get promoted but Cable will still be replaced.
In either case, not looking too good for Cable. But he’ll gladly ride it for one more year and collect his money like everyone else.
March 9th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
If Cable had no expectations, he would not have benched Russell. Or dumped Harris. Or limited DMAC. Or “IRed” DHB. Or clocked Hanson.
March 9th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Dakota
You think our OL is talented or our interior DTs are good enough, or our Lbs are solid, or our QB situation is any good, tell me if we have a 1000 yard receiver?
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Nope, but I know another HC would not have had us signe Satele, Pears, Barnes and K. Harris!
Who knows, with the right coaching, maybe we do have some talent…we will just never know until Cable is gone (or if Jackson really gets to call the plays and decide WHO gets to play). Just like we all thought Huff was a POS until Ryan left town.
March 9th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Cable chose Carlisle in 2007. Cable made Gallery a success in 2007. Cable likely chose Jeremy Newberry in 2007.
March 9th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
How do you know that you don’t want continuity for continuity sake. We haven’t had it in the last 7 plus years. Last time we had it was Gruden. And Cable is no Gruden. But, at least Gruden had Gannon. It’s not even apples to apples.
March 9th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Dakota
Name me the Raiders talent besides the young guys who haven’t done anything and besides Seymour and Asmough?
You think we got any good backups, do you think our third Wrs Watkin was a talent?
March 9th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Big Banana
I agree. So is the ZBS still in?
Is Hue Jackson a ZBS guy?
Does Al Davis draft a OT for a power line or a ZBS line?
March 9th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
This is a lie. It is physically impossible to represent Jawalrus with a stick figure.
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Never a truer statement.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
NorthernD Says:
Chris in NY,
Yeah, Lethargy is a symptom and not a cause…/…
…Some of the ” in the know” posters last night were saying he was addicted to Robitussin or other forms of pain killers. That’s just speculation.
I don’t think they would have put that story on the air if they couldn’t substantiate though. That would be grounds for a huge lawsuit. JaMarcus could sue, and double his money.
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Hey guys –
The writer known as Gary Peterson wrote the lethargy addiction line…as a joke, in his article. It was then brought-up in here, without the poster realizing it was a joke, apparently. Then the rumor mill got going, and it hasn’t slowed yet.
None of the writers or papers will be sued over a joke turned into a rumor…unless they propagate a false and harmful rumor on purpose, and with a certain intent. Absence of malice, baby.
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
March 9th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Ryan Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:31 am
Last year, I asked for Green’s autograph on a yellow flag and almost got pushed to the ground, but he missed me.
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lmao!
March 9th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Cable chose Carlisle in 2007. Cable made Gallery a success in 2007. Cable likely chose Jeremy Newberry in 2007.
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Choose Kwame and Barnes too.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
look here ctybabies, bruce campbell will almost certainly be the pick at 8. we know it. the good thing is he would instantly be the best tackle we have. go look at his game film, hes not consistently dominant, but holy crap on some plays the guy completely man-handles guys. that cant be said about 1 lineman on either side of the ball currently on our roster. hes not the best option, but its better than last year by a landslide.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
crybabies* lol
March 9th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Anyone terrified Justin Fargas will gouge us if KC signs him?
I hope they sign Jamal Williams from the Chargers. That fat fug is always injured.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
257. Saw someone onhere bishin about how Jerry hadn’t covered Russell’s lethargy issue while others had and the reason seems Jerry’s an olde school reported who likes to base his reports on verifiable FACTS rather than blogger generated garbage.
Lucky to have JMac.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
Chiefs sign Thomas Jones.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Chiefs sign Thos. Jones. Sry, Fargas.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Wow
We better improve our run defense, the Chiefs signed RB Thomas Jones
March 9th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Hey, did you guys hear that KC signed Thomas Jones?
lol
March 9th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
lol
March 9th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
We’ll knock him outta the game.
Is it just me or, despite getting run all over and finishing with a losing record, we ended a buncha guys’ seasons and knocked a few others outta the game?
March 9th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
RickyLake making things up again, as she always does. Who needs the truth (right, young lady?)…when all you want to do is convince other people to hate just like you do? Quite a life goal.
RickyLake says:
I hope to hell Cable is much more affable during practice, because during games, Cable has about as much emotion as a tree truck, and never converses with players.
How in the hell can you be a head coach..during a game…and never say word one to anyone? Just don’t get it.
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Can’t believe nobody’s called boosh!t on that. Even Cable haters (objective ones, anyway) realize he has plenty of interaction with his players on the sideline. Check your TiVos, people…see where Cable is just as animated as he needs to be almost all the time.
There are times I’d like to see a little more a$$-chewin’ on the sideline…but, Cable’s not afraid to get in anyone’s grill, and he does throughout games — for good reasons, and not-so-good reasons.
Cable shares a better rapport with his team than probably more than half the coaches in the League…and IF he gets this boat turned around, it will only be better.
Fan of the Raiders? Whether you like Cable or not, his success is all-important.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Vegas…
I’m watching some of the Dohyer game, your cousin is doing a good job so far. I’d take him over that idiot Steiner. Don’t envy whoever take over after Vin decides to retire though.
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Good to here, him and Lyons do the Dodger Talk on Sundays together so they should have some good chemistry.
Quite the switch from a scribe to a play-by-play guy. And from a Giants reporter to a Dodger announcer.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Big Banana
I agree. So is the ZBS still in?
Is Hue Jackson a ZBS guy?
Does Al Davis draft a OT for a power line or a ZBS line?
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If the crazy old man goes O-Tackle….then the pick SHOULD be on Anthony Davis….but this is the old man we are talking about and he will probably lean Bruce Campbell.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Here’s the thing with the Jamarcus situation.
I don’t think Peterson was using satire, he didn’t use it anywhere else in the entire article. Than it was reported on KRON as well, with no sattire. If it was in jest, you would think we would get a follow-up indicating just that, but so far no dice.
And……..even if it is not in fact true, the only reason that it is out there and gaining speed is because HE SHOULD be in a rehab clinic.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
HayesDaze37,
Oh yes, Cable is much more animated than say, Norv or Art. He actually has a girly voice though. I’ll try and dig up the video of him….
March 9th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Al davis will pick taylor mays.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
I am addicted to skewered walrus.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Lol…he is like a fan coaching the team….come on defense! Work work work! Come on come on! Lets go! Lets go! Stop him stop him! We need a turnover!
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d815045f9
March 9th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
I played against Thomas Jones in High School. He and I were also two of only 12 kids from our District who made it to Regionals and State for Track and Field, so I actually got to know him pretty well on that trip and found out that he’s a really cool guy and easy to chill with for a few days. I have always cheered for him and wished him the best in NCAA and NFL. Now, I’m going to have to hate him, lol.
FYI: Julius is a douchebag punkass and I met him when he was 14… have hated him the entire time. He was the “I’m twice as good as my brother and I’ll whip EVERYONE” kind of kid.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Maybe someone should e-mail Peterson and ask him, was he joking, or was reporting a “rumor”
At work so I can’t do it just yet
March 9th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Tom cables pimp hand Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Al davis will pick taylor mays.
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I wouldn’t be shocked.
Although I think Bruce Campbell still has to be the favorite at this point. I don’t think Campbell would be a terrible pick either (for the record, I blasted the DHB pick). Campbell isn’t some bum who can’t play. I watched some footage on him and the biggest problem to me is he seems unsure of himself out there. Needs to get a little nastier and needs good coaching so he’s more decisive and confident in his game and put’s his surreal athleticism to its full potential. Remember, he’s a junior who’s only played like 20 games in college. He’s raw and needs some work but has INCREDIBLE upside.
It’d be a typical Raiders gamble — huge upside, huge downside.
As for Mays, I think the only way Al entertains it is if he switches either Mays or Mitchell to the LB position. I think Mays would be the better option of the two to play LB. However, while both can lay the lumber, I’m not sure that either would have the in-the-box strength to shed the blocks of 330 pound o-linemen.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Dakota — He said the man wasn’t animated and didn’t talk to anyone. Whether or not you like the dude, you must admit he’s far more animated than Art.
Just callingmout the troll for all-in comments like somebody “never” or “always” does something, when they do it only to pump themselves up. Go ahead, Dakota — pump up RickyLake some. He needs an ally, anyway.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Should I befriend Mrs. Jones and try to get back in touch with Thomas? I haven’t spoken to him since 1997, but I could try… and then see if there’s any way that I can get inside info on the Chiefs for us all. Meh, it’s a longshot, but I might give it a try… I just don’t like going to BSG unless I have to… there’s really nothing in that town worth making the trip.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Hayzdaze, it’s not just about having a coach who yells at the players. Callahan used to chew ass on his players, all throughout 2003. It’s about standing up to Al. It’s about doing everything you can, and politicking in every way you can, to get a real winning organization in place. That’s what Gruden did. And, it’s no coincidence that was the last time we won. If Butterbean wants to win, he’s going to have to do what Gruden did…take on AL DAVIS. He can yell at the players all he wants. Won’t change a thing.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Thomas Jones will be 32 in August. Yes, he has a good year in 2009 but faded toward the end. There is always a reason 3 teams give up on a player. Will be on the downside slide soon.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
It’s about having a good QB.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
NorthernD Says:
Chris in NY,
Yeah, Lethargy is a symptom and not a cause…/…
…Some of the ” in the know” posters last night were saying he was addicted to Robitussin or other forms of pain killers. That’s just speculation.
I don’t think they would have put that story on the air if they couldn’t substantiate though. That would be grounds for a huge lawsuit. JaMarcus could sue, and double his money.
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Hey guys –
The writer known as Gary Peterson wrote the lethargy addiction line…as a joke, in his article. It was then brought-up in here, without the poster realizing it was a joke, apparently. Then the rumor mill got going, and it hasn’t slowed yet.
None of the writers or papers will be sued over a joke turned into a rumor…unless they propagate a false and harmful rumor on purpose, and with a certain intent. Absence of malice, baby.
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
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Actually,
Someone posted a youtube clip earlier in the day where an NBC news affiliate (I assume in Cali) reported it as if it were true. That’s where much of the confusion comes from. Sounded like a joke to me so I wasn’t sure. But I also didn’t think a metropolitan TV News station could be so gullible … which of course makes me extremely gullible for giving a TV News source so much credit if it is indeed a joke.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Dakota — He said the man wasn’t animated and didn’t talk to anyone. Whether or not you like the dude, you must admit he’s far more animated than Art.
Just callingmout the troll for all-in comments like somebody “never” or “always” does something, when they do it only to pump themselves up. Go ahead, Dakota — pump up RickyLake some. He needs an ally, anyway.
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I agreed with you, I even posted a video that proves you right and him wrong about Cable….what more do you want from me? lol
…who is Rickylake anyhow?
March 9th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Cable for the last 2 years: “We are close to turning the corner!” lmfao
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Funny, but not Butterbean’s best quote yet. That would be this gem:
“It worked in practice.”
March 9th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Where do you think Russell learned to stonewall the media so well?
March 9th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Vegas…
Only caught an inning or so. The Dohyers were getting their tails kicked, so your cousin had a tough game to try to call first time out. Hopefully he’ll get another crack at it.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
“It worked in practice.”
I believe that was in reference to the 4th and 10 FG fake which had Janikowski beating the KC defense to the edge from 8 yards deep in the backfield and taking it for another 10 yards before being tackled.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Chiefs now have two headed monsters with Jamal Charles and Thomas Jones, I think they are improving as a team, I hope we do something
March 9th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
Chris in NY,
If you watch that clip, it doesn’t report it as if it was true: it specifically states that it was written in Peterson’s column, never stating that it was known fact. If you read the column, it’s clear from context that it’s a joke… but the fact that it’s entirely believable that JR is addicted to being lazy is what gives us all pause to think that it might not be a joke.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
# HayesDaze37 Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
RickyLake making things up again, as she always does. Who needs the truth (right, young lady?)…when all you want to do is convince other people to hate just like you do? Quite a life goal.
RickyLake says:
I hope to hell Cable is much more affable during practice, because during games, Cable has about as much emotion as a tree truck, and never converses with players.
How in the hell can you be a head coach..during a game…and never say word one to anyone? Just don’t get it.
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Can’t believe nobody’s called boosh!t on that. Even Cable haters (objective ones, anyway) realize he has plenty of interaction with his players on the sideline. Check your TiVos, people…see where Cable is just as animated as he needs to be almost all the time.
There are times I’d like to see a little more a$$-chewin’ on the sideline…but, Cable’s not afraid to get in anyone’s grill, and he does throughout games — for good reasons, and not-so-good reasons.
Cable shares a better rapport with his team than probably more than half the coaches in the League…and IF he gets this boat turned around, it will only be better.
Fan of the Raiders? Whether you like Cable or not, his success is all-important.
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Take your head out of your ass, moron.
YEAH, GO LOOK AT THE GAMES..the guy talks to NO ONE.
Again, because you abuse the right to be stupid, it doesn’t matter WHAT GOES ON, THE MAN IS A TREE STUMP.
Hell, the only time I’ve seen him move was a couple times when the team scored.
When JR fumbles? STANDS THERE LIKE A MUTE, TALKING TO NO ONE.
Turnover? DOESN’T SAY A WORD TO ANYONE.
Turnover on downs? Again, he’s void of emotion.
Seymour getting back to back to back penalties? DIDN’T SAY ONE DAMN THING TO HIM…to anyone…not a coach on the headset..and sure as hell nothing to Seymour.
NEVER rallies the guys on the sidelines..maybe a handful of times has he even shown he’s alive.
Just stares at his play chart…with that stupid look on his face..almost as in a daze.
And “shares a rapport’?? wtf?>???
Guy’s a say nothing idiot. has NEVER gotten in a players face, and ONLY shows emotion after a TD..THAT’S IT. Players know Cable has no say in anything…hell…what HEAD COACH IN THE LEAGUE WOULD KEEP BEY IN, ALL SEASON LONG, AND KEEP WALKER ON THE BENCH?
Like I said, take your head out of your ass…the only funny thing is in your weak attempt to say something/anything to me, YOU FORGOT YOUR DUMBASS WAS CRYING LIKE A LITTLE GIRL ON HOW BAD CABLE IS.
Well?
Yeah, fool…YOU THREW YOUR LITTLE TANTRUM THAT CABLE SUCKED AS A HEAD COACH, THAT HE SET UP JR TO FAIL, THAT CABLE SHOULD BE FIRED.
Now you waffle? lol…moron.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
Krappy, you would’ve loved the party I just came from. There were a bunch of old waiters serving us ceviche who looked just like you!
I’m sure they all have nicer cars, though. Awesome, huh?
March 9th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Explain this to me, Mr senile A$$ Al Davis. The Chefs signed thomas jones and the Donks signed Williams from the Dolts. Would you stop playing with your wrinkle huevos and do something with our Oakland Raiders. I am gettin so frustrated with this team for the past 7 years and who do you blame??? Senile A$$ Davis
March 9th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
SteveAlford21,
If the station thought it was a joke, would they even report it at all? Do TV stations normally report random wisecracks from sports columnists in the middle of their newscasts? I don’t remember the exact wording of the anchor but it’s clear he was reporting it as news. He may have tempered it because he realized after he said it how strange it sounded. Still, someone goofed on that one.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Damn. I was really hoping we could snag Williams away from SD. He’s fairly old, but not ancient. We need a big elephant on the d-line.
I read earlier that Shaun Rodgers could be available in a trade with Cleveland.
Dear Cleveland: Hey how about a JaMarcus for Rodgers straight up swap? No? Hello? Hello? You still there?
March 9th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Vegas — Without going back to look it up, I could swear Peterson included something about making us blow stuff out our noses, or something like that? I took the whole thing as a joke from the start. Maybe I’m wrong? Maybe, but don’t think so in this case.
March 9th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
# Dakota Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Dakota — He said the man wasn’t animated and didn’t talk to anyone. Whether or not you like the dude, you must admit he’s far more animated than Art.
Just callingmout the troll for all-in comments like somebody “never” or “always” does something, when they do it only to pump themselves up. Go ahead, Dakota — pump up RickyLake some. He needs an ally, anyway.
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I agreed with you, I even posted a video that proves you right and him wrong about Cable….what more do you want from me? lol
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LMFAO…was waiting to see who was going to post that ignorant crap..figures it was the resident bonehead, Dakota.
Hey…uh…dumbass??
HE WAS MIC’D FOR THE GAME, YOU FOOL…lol…what? You can’t read?? SAYS IT RIGHT ON TOP…CABLE MIC’D UP.
See, like any coach who’s MIC’D FOR THE GAME, THEY KNOW EACH AND EVERY THING THEY DO is going to be on video, moron. So they do exactly what Cable does…which was so far out of his element, was actually humorous.
Just like you are with your idiot takes, Dakota.
Congrats on setting yourself up, and crapping on your own shoe…like only you can.
March 9th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Its all good, our main weakness is OL, I hope we get Guard Ryan Lilja and Center Kevin Mawae. Maybe we can get Derrick Mason through Hue Jackson, that would be huge moves we need to make.
March 9th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Why do i have a feeling we will end up over paying for Mason services!!!! leave it to Senile Al Davis to do it
March 9th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Pretty funny watching Kelli’s lovefest with Old Man Beeech.
Two guys who are desperate to put on a false persona.
One claims world traveling on a regular basis, who’s actually unemployed, and cooking dinner as we speak for the bread winner of the family, his wife….and the other claims to hobnob with skanks from Scratch’s bordello, while sipping Singapore Slings, who’s actually downing geritol mixed in with some Rolaids, while waiting for the next rousing game of Bingo to begin.
You guys want to see Beeecham jump up and cuss??
Just yell ‘BINGO’…works every time
March 9th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
“If Butterbean wants to win, he’s going to have to do what Gruden did…take on AL DAVIS. He can yell at the players all he wants. Won’t change a thing.”
Like convincing him to bench his prized #1 pick?
Tom’s in Al’s ear. Even if it’s just a little bit, that could mean progress.
I think Tom also deactivated DHB, although without Al’s approval.
March 9th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Dakota — RickyLake is our own Richochet troll. You know…the guy who keeps throwing up lies, smearing anybody and everybody he can…because he somehow thinks it makes him look, ummm, bigger.
He/she (can’t tell which of his/her aliases are feminine or masc.) is always puffing-up his B.S. statements with the name-calling and taunting. You know, the 18-year-old in him/her can’t help it.
And now…since you showed RickyLake and the rest of us that Cable does, in fact, have a pulse on the sidelines (as opposed to what he claimed as fact), he has to add another falsehood like this:
RickyLake says:
Yeah, fool…YOU THREW YOUR LITTLE TANTRUM THAT CABLE SUCKED AS A HEAD COACH, THAT HE SET UP JR TO FAIL, THAT CABLE SHOULD BE FIRED.
Now you waffle? lol…moron.
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Fact: I have never thrown any tanrums in here. And…I support Tom Cable from Day-1…never said Cable didn’t have my support…I pledge allegiance to the Raiders, to Cable, and to Al Davis. Cable has my 100% support, and Al Davis has my multi-seat season tix payment.
RickyLake…batting .000 so far on his trail of lies.
You can save it, though, Rickygirl — Call me some more names! That always shows what a great point-maker you are. Nothing like stretching that brain a little to find such big boy (or girl) thoughts!
So easy. Especially for a troll.
March 9th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
I agree that the he really just slid in the comment without much else. Was he joking, tough to tell, but didn’t know that Peterson used his Sunday print column for one-liners.
It is the news coverage that really solidifies it in a sense for me. What news station doesn’t call the reporter real quick to verify?
If in fact a joke, what a bunch of hacks!!!
March 9th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
HayesDaze, I asked everyone a favor yesterday to go easy on my frightened little poodle, rico-pet.
He had a very difficult weekend where I schooled and lectured him in all things Raiders and life.
The little fella is now at a very low point, scared to leave his cubicle, pants freshly peed in, hands shaking too hard in fear to type. And, I’m afraid, he’s going to lose another night of sleep obsessing over my ownership of him.
Anyway, I know all you dudes enjoy wiping your feet on the blog doormat at every opportunity and I’m not asking you to stop, just don’t murder the poor puppy.
After all, he’s still my servant and I need him alert and attentive to carry out my bidding.
Just consider it … thanks!
March 9th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
who will Al Davis Draft? There are only three possibilities here: Taylor Mays, Jason Pierre-Paul and Bruce Campbell. That’s it. If you think otherwise, you really don’t realize how horrible of a drafter Al Davis is.
Mays ran an unofficial 4.24 at the Combine. While this will lead to many 2010 NFL Mock Drafts having Mays at the No. 8 pick, I don’t think it’s going to happen. The Raiders have three very good/promising safeties in Tyvon Branch, Michael Mitchell and Michael Huff. Branch just had a great year, while Mitchell is a pet project of Al Davis’. Davis does not draft over pet projects (even if Glandor is available).
Pierre-Paul won’t be drafted here because the Raiders just franchised Richard Seymour. Matt Shaughnessy and Trevor Scott are also two pet projects of Davis’.
That leaves Campbell. The Maryland tackle ran a 4.85 at the Combine at 6-6, 314. He also posted 34 reps of 225 pounds despite having 36 1/4-inch arms. If Al Davis was awake, he must have thought to himself, “Bruce Campbell… is a… great player…”
March 9th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Dumb Beeych
Do you hear voices?
March 9th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Shark-way to copy Walter.com mock draft-word for word.At least you could change the words around a little to make it sound like YOU were saying something!
March 9th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Oh hey Krappy. So I can get you some work this Saturday night on the Reggae Boat cruise, we need an old dude ready to swim down and dislodge the anchor if it gets stuck on a rock.
Only pays $3 an hour, but at least you’ll be able to sniff the roast pig we’ll be eating.
March 9th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
@Hayes: He DID mention blowing coffee out our noses so early in the morning in the article… it was CLEAR that he was joking.
@Chris: Just because the anchor never said “this is a joke” doesn’t mean he was reporting it as if it were true. The fact that he stipulated that it was said in the column is a dead giveaway that they aren’t vouching for truth in the story. If they thought it was true, they would have said “This offseason, JaMarcus Russell has been treated for Lethargy Addiction.” Instead, they said, “Peterson wrote that Russell has reportedly…”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vjCah-ZG5g
March 9th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
From D. Whites twitter:
“Guys, that line in the CCTimes about JaMarcus in rehab for “lethargy” addiction. Umm, it was a joke.
http://twitter.com/bydavidwhite
March 9th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
The fact that a news station mentioned that it was at LEAST third-hand information is an admittance that it isn’t verified news. I guess you have to know something about journalism to understand that. When they say “reportedly” even after attributing it to another source, that’s saying, “this is an unfounded story, yet interesting to tell.”
March 9th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
909 I think you just busted vegas’ balloon.
March 9th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Well there you have at…..egg on my face.
I still say Jamarcus, get the help you need , lol
March 9th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
I still think the news station thought it was a legitimate rumor.
Why would they mention a joke like that, with out saying, well it is a joke?
Those bastards!!!!
March 9th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
This is what Gary Peterson (CCTimes) wrote:
Or maybe Russell, rumored to have spent part of the offseason at a clinic being treated for lethargy addiction, shows up for minicamp weighing 230 sculpted pounds and ready to work twice as hard as anyone else in the building. Sorry, didn’t mean to make you blow coffee out your nose first thing in the morning — just trying to cover all bases.
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All that meant to me was…Peterson was referring to JaMarcus having the lazies, and he might’ve been at a “clinic” (gym?) working his a$$ off.
How it turned into anything more than that, is proof of how the internet fuels the rumor mills — right into other media. Ahhh…the art of journalism. The lost art of journalism.
March 9th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
After Priesttj admitted that he knew of this specifically, should be interesting to see his 180 tonight.
March 9th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Vegas,
Even if the people at the station thought it might be a legit rumor (because they didn’t see the humorous context of the paragraph just after the rumor), they still made certain to report it as at least third-hand information. This alone tells you that it’s not a “serious” story and that they aren’t claiming it as fact.
March 9th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
909
LOL even the bay area news was reporting it as fact so I posted a youtube link yesterday like fugg it.. My bad…
March 9th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Vegas,
Yes… I will LOVE seeing TJ squirm and try to cover his lies with more lies. It happens every day, but it never gets old.
March 9th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
HazeDaze
Trying to generally discredit the “media” and “journalism”, because of Peterson’s sense of humor is, disingenuous.
If they were writing lullabies to Al Davis all day/night, you’d be quoting them like Aristotle.
March 9th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
408,
No, they weren’t reporting it as fact. They were reporting the fact that someone else said that they heard that it was “reportedly” done.
March 9th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Vegas,didn’t you also mention that you knew someone who was friends with Russell who verified the story-or at least said he had a problem?
March 9th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
We have made solid personnel moves since Cable took over.
Free agents are free for a reason and rarely if ever perform up to their bloated salaries.
For every Rich Gannon you get ten Javon Walkers.
Big money free agents are a very low percentage play.
We must build through the draft and that is what we are doing.
We will focus on the lines this April and we will start winning in 2010. DHB and Dmac will flourish.
The list Jerry put up on Olineman is very misleading.
Day one is not the same as first rounders.We have invested fewer first round picks in lineman in the last ten years than any other time in the history of the Raiders franchise and it has killed us.
Cable has helped clean up a huge mess in a very short period of time.
The only remaining poor VALUE(production relative to salary) players are Kelly,Warren and JR.
These three will be sorted out by the start of next season either with lower salaries or getting released.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
lefty12 Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Vegas,didn’t you also mention that you knew someone who was friends with Russell who verified the story-or at least said he had a problem?
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I posted a long while back, during the season, that Jamarcus was in a bad place. Out of respect, I never said specifically what it was, but the dude has issues.
I stand behind my source. Never substantiated this report, but said I wasn’t suprisesd one bit.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
I’m going to the Troy Smith autograph signing in Toledo Sunday. I’ll tell him we need him with the Raiders. LOL
Good Night Nation
March 9th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
It happens every day, but it never gets old.
341.KoolKell Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
HazeDaze
Trying to generally discredit the “media” and “journalism”, because of Peterson’s sense of humor is, disingenuous.
If they were writing lullabies to Al Davis all day/night, you’d be quoting them like Aristotle.
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Peterson wrote a hack article. I’m no college grad but even I know blatantly atrocious writing when I see it.
That kind of crap he wrote gets passed off by beings of lesser intelligence as gospel because they “saw it in a real paper!” and not just on a blog where it was first sh-at out.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
I’m going to the Troy Smith autograph signing in Toledo Sunday. I’ll tell him we need him with the Raiders. LOL
Good Night Nation
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PLEASE DO!!!
March 9th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
lefty12 Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Vegas,didn’t you also mention that you knew someone who was friends with Russell who verified the story-or at least said he had a problem?
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Tried to say so and so talks to Russell’s Mom and she says he a f’in drunk or this or that.
Complete heresay BS.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Why the love for T.Smith?He is smaller than Gradkowski and has never done anything.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
Nnamdi,
I actually thought it was a pretty funny line. The fact that Peterson said, “Sorry, didn’t mean to make you blow coffee out your nose first thing in the morning” in the very next sentence makes it obvious that he wasn’t “reporting” that JR had actually been treated for Lethargy Addiction. Other than stepping outside of the bounds of pure journalism to make a joke, there’s nothing wrong with the column.
That having been said, it was a column, not an articl. The difference is a BIG one, as far as journalism goes. In a feature column, you are allowed to editorialize (use your opinion and even make jokes) instead of reporting straight news and ONLY news, as is the case with “articles.”
March 9th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
Garbagekowsi will soon be known as Gangstakowski.
You heard it here first, gentlemen – much the same as you heard JaMarshmallow Truffle here first.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
KoolKell Says:
HazeDaze
Trying to generally discredit the “media” and “journalism”, because of Peterson’s sense of humor is, disingenuous.
If they were writing lullabies to Al Davis all day/night, you’d be quoting them like Aristotle.
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You’re kidding here, right, KK? What’s disengenuous about pointing out how journalists “collectively” do not research or fact-check as they used to. If you try to say otherwise, YOU are being disengenuous.
Tell truth, KK — Just like the RickyLake troll, all you want from me is a little attention. And stop trying to use big words, or famous names from the past, to make your points for you. They actually make you look less intelligent, not more.
Now…thank me for giving you that great advice about protecting your info better in here. Whether or not you chose to take it.
KK — You’re kidding right?
March 9th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Garbagekowski will soon be known as Gangstakowski*
March 9th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Nnamdi,
Would you say that the heresay is heresy?
March 9th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
336. Amen.
“I used to trust the media to tell me the truth, thats the truth, but now I see the pay offs every where I look.
Who do you trust when everyones a crook?
REVOLUTION CALLING!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DGfXAvgknM
March 9th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
Alright Krappy, I’ve signed you up for the gig on the Reggae Boat cruise this Sat night!
You’ll be walking out of there with a cool $15 in your pocket! Can someone say down payment on the Swiss chalet?
So be at the main dock at Marina Del Rey by 5:30 so you an be scrubbed down and sanitized.
Strict code enforcement on the boat for all “help”. You understand, right old goat?
March 9th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
Hayes and Kell,
There is a reason that journalists report many fewer FACTS now, compared to days of yore. We live in a media age, where the internet has greatest control. If your only sources were interviews, as they were in older days, you would have access to more facts. Now, when you try to check facts, you can just google something, find a few different sites that say the same thing, and then qualify your story with words like “reportedly” or “stated by several outlets.” The use of these qualifying terms are the ways that reporters state that the story hasn’t been properly researched or verified to be factual.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
HazeDaze
You’re using the Peterson “story” as indictment on all journalist who dare to criticize Al Davis.
Don’t bother responding.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
SteveAlford21 Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Nnamdi,
Would you say that the heresay is heresy?
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It is not heresy and I will NOT RECANT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjJY8Z43LqQ&feature=PlayList&p=1AA1306B9F3E9F6B&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=20
March 9th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
I check White’s twitter at least once a day, just to see if he’s scooped Jerry again on something Raider related. Just a fluke to see his quote about “Lethargy Gate”…
Didn’t mean to pee in anyones cheerios….lol.
I do hope the in the gym rumors are true though, Russell needs to report closer to 250 rather than the 3 bills he did last year….
March 9th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
These same people who want to vilify the media, are the same ones who swore up and down that the Davis/Kiffin fued was a media creation.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
“closer” to 3 bills…..meant to say…
March 9th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
HazeDaze
You’re using the Peterson “story” as indictment on all journalist who dare to criticize Al Davis.
Don’t bother responding.
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Its an indictment on the VAST majority of crap knee jerk (emphasis on jerk)crap that passes for journalism in this country.
Too many people think the media ISN’T republican owned and don’t realize they are being lied to to gurther a corporate agenda.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Mike Taylor introduces former #1 overall pick and former Raiders starting quarterback at the podium of the latest presser from the Legion of Doom (Oakland Raiders HQ – Alameda, CA).
Reporter: JaMarcus, is it true you have a lethargy addiction?
Russell: Naw, mayne… juss weed homie.
Reporter: No, no, meaning you’re addicted to being lazy.
Russell: Aw hell naw, mayne. I’m as hard a worker as you see on this squad, mayne. I’m up at noon everyday – except Tuesdays, Fridays, and Saturdays, which I’m up no later than 2 PM – making myself and this team better.
Reporter: It was reported that you are currenly being treated in an Arizona facility for laziness.
Russell: Mayne, I ain’t addicted to nothin… ‘cept um, good trees, Jim Beam, Popeyes, um, I’m maybe addicted to In ‘n’ Out, probably white women. I’m fo sho addicted to jewree.. and a partyin’
But I ain’t addicted to nothin else. Specially not bein lazy.
Reporter: Jamarcus, you dropped your hat there on the podium.
Russell: Yo man, that’s way too far away, knawwhatimean? Mike, could you grab that for me?
March 9th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
358. Word.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Whats all this about cough syrup?
March 9th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
I take it back, I shouldn’t say Jamarcus has “issues”.
I will say that if he wants to be the best he can be in the NFL he has other priorities, or at least he did in 2009, that has gotten in his way.
It is in fact heresay, I won’t dispute that. However, too me, it is very solid heresay. My frkn best friend growing up has tilted the bottle (not the booze) at Jamarcus’ house, a good dozen or so times. NO BS.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Oh no Krappy – here you go again with another one of your wacky misguided conspiracy theories!
Simmer down, you silly old dog!
March 9th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
It is in fact heresay, I won’t dispute that. However, too me, it is very solid heresay. My frkn best friend growing up has tilted the bottle (not the booze) at Jamarcus’ house, a good dozen or so times. NO BS.
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Don’t understand the ebonics, what was that again?
March 9th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Bob,
I took in a lady’s laptop last night for virus removal. It took me all of about ten minutes to fix it and clean out her registry. She paid me with ten Norco 10s.
One hundred milligrams of sweet, sweet hydrocodone!
March 9th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
SteveAlford21 Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
@Chris: Just because the anchor never said “this is a joke” doesn’t mean he was reporting it as if it were true. The fact that he stipulated that it was said in the column is a dead giveaway that they aren’t vouching for truth in the story. If they thought it was true, they would have said “This offseason, JaMarcus Russell has been treated for Lethargy Addiction.” Instead, they said, “Peterson wrote that Russell has reportedly…”
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Steve,
News sources — sports or otherwise — always credit the person or organization who originally reports a story. Unless it’s news that comes in a press release or press conference or happened in public. The TV report’s citing Peterson in no way has anything to do with it being a joke. It’s obvious that either the story is true (highly doubtful) or the TV news staff completely botched this one and didn’t get the joke. I’ve never, ever seen a TV news station report a columnist’s joke as part of their news broadcast. They had to believe it was a true story.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
KK — Are you sure you’re not also RickyLake? You sound exactly the same…arguing just to argue.
KoolKell Says:
HazeDaze
You’re using the Peterson “story” as indictment on all journalist who dare to criticize Al Davis.
Don’t bother responding.
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KK — Where in my previous posts have I said anything about all journalists, or those that have negative things to say about Al? Oh, I’ve said a few things about one or maybe two INDIVIDUALS over the years…but not recently, and none that you could probably find. Liar.
So, KK — Spew your lies about what I say somewhere else. Wanna know what I think? Just ask…you don’t have to make it up. I’m starting to think you ARE RickyLake.
Oh…go ahead and keep defending ALL journalists, even though you know they aren’t all as forthcoming or accurate as they should be. That’s the way to pick a winning side.
And, old-timer — You’re welcome about that security advice.
*BTW, KK — I was the first guy in here to point out that Peterson’s statement was a joke — and that everybody else (including those bad journalists you want to defend) was making something out of nothing.
All you wanna do is fight.
You are a thankless, and helpless sad man.
Despite that…
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
March 9th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
LOL….you can do it I have confidence in you
March 9th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Krappy, you’re a senile old wackjob / racist from Oklahoma – you wrote the book on ebonics!
Maybe a trip down to Arby’s for one of their delightful chicken sandwich delicacies will help jog your prehistoric memory!
March 9th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
In the interest of full disclosure… this evening when she picked it up, I told her that I had worked on it all night and most of the afternoon.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Great game on the network tonight,..the 1992 nfc title game that the `Boys won at the Stick,….in the mud,..I was there with a shytload of Cowboy fans,..I expected the Niners to easily win, but wow, it was awesome,..in my opinion, Michael Irvin is the greatest wide receiver in nfl history. Word. Rice a close second.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
I like Arbys,..extra horsey sauce please.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
That same year though, I went down to L.A.,…Raiders vs Cowboys,..Marinovich started,..we looked good for a while, but Dallas ended up destroying us. Never heard of emmit smith til that game.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Chris,
I’m not talking about the fact that they credited Peterson. I’m talking about the fact that they credited Peterson AND said that Peterson said “reportedly.”
If they had only credited Peterson, it would have been second-hand information. Go re-read my posts. I clearly stated that the news station made it obvious that it’s third-hand information. From a journalistic perspective, that is blatantly saying “this is unconfirmed and we’re reporting it because it’s interesting, not saying it’s true.”
March 9th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
I remember jawwin with ken norton jr,..was givin it to him about what foreman did to his dad. Hey now.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Arby’s is awesome –
But NOT when there’s a 67 year old degenerate named KrappyKell inside, waving around his curly fries like a madman, pants around his ankles and reciting the Raiders record over the last 7 years over and over again.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
So I’m going over PFT.com news today and this is what I have learned…
Jamal Williams (DT) joined the Broncos.
Thomas Jones (RB) joined the Chiefs.
Jarvis Green (DE) joined the Broncos
What have the Raiders done? Man this sucks.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
SteveAlford21 Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
Nnamdi,
I actually thought it was a pretty funny line. The fact that Peterson said, “Sorry, didn’t mean to make you blow coffee out your nose first thing in the morning” in the very next sentence makes it obvious that he wasn’t “reporting” that JR had actually been treated for Lethargy Addiction. Other than stepping outside of the bounds of pure journalism to make a joke, there’s nothing wrong with the column.
That having been said, it was a column, not an articl. The difference is a BIG one, as far as journalism goes. In a feature column, you are allowed to editorialize (use your opinion and even make jokes) instead of reporting straight news and ONLY news, as is the case with “articles.”
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Semantics.
BTW, is that you Peterson? U suk!
First of all peterson starts the “column” with Raiders Cable soap opera shows no signs of ending” like he might have some fresh news or insight and offers NOTHING other than a lame tired rehash of the obvious.
I stand by my original assertion with examples like…
“”Let the (quarterback) job be competed for,” Cable said. “I think that’s where we’re at in terms of our starting quarterback.”
Cable didn’t stop there, suggesting the Raiders could conceivably select a quarterback in next month’s draft.”
Cable’s quote “suggests” the Raiders concievably taking a QB?!
Thats a leap.
The entire column is an opinion based tired side swipe.”suggests” “concieveably” “apparently”
“Cable, based on what he has said, left unsaid and tucked between the lines,”
“The Raiders are laboring under a fundamental and XXXL-size conflict ”
A shot at Russell’s media exaggerated weight issue.
“Russell remains a polarizing submediocrity until further notice, largely unsupported in the Raiders locker room and vilified by what’s left of the fan base.”
Were expected to believe this from someone who has to guesstimate at every inference in his “column”.
You know what? Im bored and dinners ready.
Article column whatever. It sucked and offered less than nothing.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
By the way, Big George the greatest heavyweight ever. Print that.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
24,..its the calm before the storm,..have patience grasshopper.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Nnamdi…
That’s what a column IS! It’s not a news story. It’s for opinion, editorialization, and speculation. Do you read columns and think they’re news stories?
March 9th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
My best freinds sisters girlfriends cousins baysitters step Moms aunt heard a rumor from Russell’s Moms garbage man that Russell killed a guy for a cheese burger last month.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
SteveAlford21 Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Nnamdi…
That’s what a column IS! It’s not a news story. It’s for opinion, editorialization, and speculation. Do you read columns and think they’re news stories?
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face it. column, article, what ever it was a Raider slam and it was garbage.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Iv said this before, sayin it again, Big Ben is a serial rapist,..hes Ted Bundy in cleats. Print that.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
To elaborate… while columns DO report facts, the purpose of a column is for the columnist to editorialize and give his opinions and thoughts on those facts. The fact (main premise) of that Peterson column is that the Raiders are in a vortex of suck. He then used opinions (editorializing) to give his take on several aspects of the Raiders’ chaos. There’s a reason that some people who write for papers are called “reporters” and some are called “columnists.”
Reporters only give straight facts.
Columnists give opinions and speculate.
If you don’t like opinions and other wasted text… and you only want facts… then stick to reading articles, not columns.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
# HayesDaze37 Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Dakota — RickyLake is our own Richochet troll. You know…the guy who keeps throwing up lies, smearing anybody and everybody he can…because he somehow thinks it makes him look, ummm, bigger.
Richochet: Lies? lol…what the hell are you talking about? I back up words, unlike worms like you that are reduced to speaking in the 3rd person…waiting for support..someone else to speak to, hoping it keeps your fragile ass out of the line of fire..just makes ya look meek, Dazed and Stupid.
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He/she (can’t tell which of his/her aliases
Richochet: Again..are you confused? No..not stupid. I know the answer to that…question is are you confused? Aliases? lol..you dumbass..I’ve NEVER been accused of posting under any other name…that’s for weak ass cross posting beyotches, like Oakglen..who constantly gets hammered to the point he needs a dozen handles to prop his own ignorant take.
Of course, you won’t post any “aliases” because, again, your ignorant ass is confused. You get slammed on so much, you can’t track?
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And now…since you showed RickyLake and the rest of us that Cable does, in fact, have a pulse on the sidelines
RICHOCHET: Again, whining little “help me, help ME!!! child”..all your sorryass did was point to a clip WHEN HE WAS MIC’D UP..where EVERYONE WHO’S MIC’S UP chatters nonstop…
I notice you had NOTHING regarding my take about how Seymour got 3 penalties in a row…AND CABLE DIDN’T SAY A DAMN WORD TO HIM..how each and every time Russell walks off the field? CABLE STANDS THERE WITH THAT STUPID ‘i’m gomer” look…NOT SAYING A WORD..
Yeah, yeah, we got it..you’re a worm…I know…Al craps down your neck, and you just accept it…fleas do that…you feel that you don’t have the right to have a pair of balls…THAT’S OBVIOUS.
You just keep going along…kissing your Al poster..trying to convince yourself your NOT A LOSER even though everyone is laughing at your hero..PROBLEM IS..you are..and everyone is still laughing..
Including me
Now shut up before you hurt yourself.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Cough syrup?…can ya get high on that?
March 9th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Norco Bob – The last 7 years isn’t patience enough?
March 9th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Richard, Im here now,…please,..dumb it down,..I would for one time at least like to understand your point,..thanks cuz.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
24, you were only referring to the last day or so`s free agent signings.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
bobbo?
Are you trying to incite the masses to riot again?
Ben wasn’t even charged, lol…even the cops said “this girls a skank…go away”
Not going to ask them how they knew that.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Big Ben must be lookin at the wrong girls to do his bondage and torture sessions with. He’s got money, he can go pay for that stuff.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
I am the biggest Raiders fan that I personally know… and I’m fine with a slam on my team once in a while. Maybe some bad press will wake Al up… or at least force someone who cares what the media says to pester Al enough to do something to fix it. The bottom line is that we DESERVE to be slammed right now. I love this team, but there is no defense for what our beloved Raiders have become. Gotta take your lumps when you screw up… asking for pity or crying not to be mocked is weak. I don’t care if EVERY paper starts making fun of the Raiders, I’ll still love the team… and I’ll defend the columnists’ rights to say that we suck… because lately, we do.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Norco Bob – Well if that last 7 years is any indication, this slow period of not signing any good players while they jettison to other teams isn’t looking good. The Chiefs are paying Thomas Jones $2 million in one year and $3 million another year. We couldn’t pay that? Boldin was traded for a freakin 3rd round pick. We couldn’t get in on that? Jamal Williams stops the run. We don’t. We couldn’t have brought him in? *&^%&*))&&*
March 9th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
24,..you mentioned the last 7 years, and your patience,..Iv been to every game the last 7 years,..have you?…heres some advice bud, from now on when watching Raider games on tv, or at the coliseum,..do it stoned and drunk and loaded on pills,…you will enjoy it more. Print that.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
But hey…who am I kidding? We’ve got Stanford Routt and 31 other teams don’t so we’re in business right?
March 9th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Bob,
I told you last night how when I got Ostrich Flu (actually, it was allegedly H1N1), that I accidentally WAY overdid it with the Robitussin. It did indeed completely alter my world, but I don’t see how ANYONE could enjoy getting high on it. Nevertheless, it DOES mess you up… even more so than getting really drunk.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Not even a decent year for top shelf free agents,..Peppers is the best, and he has a bad back alot of the time,…this is the year to ignore FA signings,…better to get rid of dead weight this year, as weve done,..then to write silly checks,…I like the offseason moves so far. Print that.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Norco – Haha. I believe you and your a special case man. I have so many other things I want to do in life besides go to Raider games good and bad. This is the truth…I honestly like watching Raider games at home alone because I don’t want to be bothered. I don’t want to be at some football party, its distracting and I want to focus solely on the game. Going to the games is cool once and awhile but I like seeing the game closer up on the television. I’m not a paint myself, go crazy kind of guy and I don’t like being in large crowds. Thats just how I am.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
24,…dont pretend to know that other teams werent interested in Routt,..because you can bet they were. Print that.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Norco – To go along with that…I just don’t have the money to be spending on games. I got bills to pay. If I made a TON of money, I’d probably buy the suites because again…I like to watch the game in private as much as possible.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Norco – Haha. Seriously, you’re funny dude.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
I don’t know, the billionaire Al Davis is playing it pretty close to the vest this Free Agency period, no?
March 9th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Thats nice 24, but we go to games because its alot more then simply a football game, its a day long experience of tailgating, live music, hundreds of parties all next to each other,..meeting and talkin to Raider Legends in the club,…watching it on tv doesnt even come close. Matter of fact I dont watch many away games on tv,..I dvr them and watch bits and pieces of them. Print that.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Norco – If we were so concerned with getting rid of dead weight, the Raiders should have cut Jamarcus Russell RIGHT NOW. If that dude wants to play for the Raiders, he can re-sign with a much smaller contract for how about…the minimum since hes already collected enough money from us, now its time he gives some of it back.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Im just keepin it real 24,..sounds to me you are some weirdo that likes to be alone alot. Word.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
Norco – Well…Thats just the difference between us but let it be known…that doesn’t make me less of a fan than you. We just enjoy the game differently, thats all. I like to go to at least 1 game a year because I want to get that feel and I want to see my team but thats enough for me. Since I moved to San Diego, I really want to go to the Chargers stadium and see the Raiders when they’re in town.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
Old kell,..is there a FA that signed somewheres that you wanted here? I cant think of one,..Williams maybe, if cheap enough.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Norco – Well…I’m not a weirdo. If anything, everyone is weird in their own ways but no…I’m a pretty normal guy.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
I’m a weirdo.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Sorry 24, but I dont consider people who lay on the couch watching Raider home games at home as fans. Print that.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Norco – Besides…you’re the guy on the drugs. For all I know, you’re a tweaker and if I met you, you could be twitching and acting all crazy. I don’t know but it really doesn’t matter.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
I am sure that when the Bears are like 1-4, Peppers back will flare up. Word.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Now…thank me for giving you that great advice about protecting your info better in here. Whether or not you chose to take it.
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What are you? A little child? Kelli…pat the damn little boy on the head, will you?
What is that? 3rd? 4th time you want a lollipop because you told Kelli it’s not wise to put personal info online?
YOU ACTUALLY THINK YOU THOUGHT OF THAT? lol…you dumbass.
Kind of old news, numbnuts…it’s just Kelli is also old news, and not too bright..but hey,,*pat on head*…there..that should make your day.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Iv never done crank. Thats a tweaker drug ya? Not for me.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
By the way, I will be hosting a huge A`s opening night tailgate in A lot…all welcome to visit for beer and dogs,…not like a Raider tailgate, but pretty decent. Go A`s!
March 9th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Norco – Haha…you make it sound as if Raider fans who “lay” on the couch are just lazy Raider fans. Crazy stuff. Its all good…I surely don’t spend this much time on a Raider blog for nothing. I’m very much into the Raiders, they just exhaust me with their losing. Its hard to talk football with anybody else anymore because my team is embarrasing and theres nothing good to say.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Norco – Drugs are drugs. You’re only justifying what you do.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Bob,
Maybe the ones who stay home on the couch motionless are just big JaMarcus fans showing their solidarity.
March 9th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
Steve – Hahaha…thats funny.
March 9th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
No drugs arent drugs,…tweakers do speed, stay up for days,..act weird…I do pot and pills,…big difference, whether you believe so or not.
March 9th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
I mean yeah…whats not to like about Jamarcus?
March 9th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
March 9th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Yo steve,..wattup man?
March 9th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Norco – Whatever you say man…do your thing.
March 9th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Some of the things standing in the way of the ascendancy of King Elexis I to glory and success are now removed.
The Cornmop is now elsewhere. The Huggy Bear Jr is excised. The clown of Vegas alleyways is removed. The Cable Guy’s punchline play-calling is dispensed with. And the lethargy treatment is on schedule.
Can we all get an Amen! And another, Amen!
Ahem.
Now all that is left is for the King QB to find a derivation of savvy, a bit of dedicated ethic, an ability to throw it to persons wearing the same uniform, the awareness not to fumble every time a D-lineman slaps him, a O-line that can block, a RB who doesn’t trip over a blade of grass and WRs who don’t treat a thrown pass as an obstacle to be avoided.
It is all there for the taking O King.
My family name may be Thomas but I don’t doubt it for a second (or two, or a minute, or…whatever)
Amen!
March 9th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
“Honey, will you bring me my 3-foot-long supersub, please?”
“Why won’t you get it yourself? It’s only on the endtable, ya know.”
“I can’t. JaMarcus is sitting on the bench by himself, not talking to his offensive teammates… or coaches… or anyone… just staring blankly into space. I have to support him. Please bring me some gatorade, too.”
*sigh*
March 9th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Howdy, Bob! How the hell are ya this fine evening?
Did you read where I told you about my fee today for fixing that laptop that was dropped off last night?
March 9th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
No doubt, no doubt in my mind. It is clear, Al will be drafting Dez Bryant with the 1st pick.
March 9th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
24,..its cool man Im just tellin ya how I see it…whenever you come down for a game come by our tailgate,..brian will be there….alot of fans up here, mainly old kell, they cry about the game not being on tv, but dont go to the game either,…those are the weak fans,..clearly old kell is the weakest.
March 9th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Nah man, what happened to laptop?
March 9th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Norco – I would go. Maybe one day.
March 9th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Bob,
It had a few infections. It took me about half an hour to get rid of the virii and delete their registry entries. I told her that I was working on it til 3am and then a couple of hours this afternoon, as well.
She paid me ten Norco 10s. One hundred milligrams of sweet, sweet hydrocodone.
March 9th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
CJ – You know…thats probably not far fetched when you look at the WR core.
Schilens – Injury Prone.
DHB – No Hands
JLH – Scared
Miller – Injury Prone?
Murphy – Potential with some drops included?
Why the hell not add Dez Bryant…fuk it.
March 9th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Hmmm,..nice payday dude.
March 9th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
CJLegend,
Dez Bryant is actually the most talented skill player coming out of the college ranks. Could do worse.
O-line in ‘010!!!!!
March 9th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
24,
I mean no insult when I say this, so please don’t get defensive. It’s WR “corps,” like the Marine Corps. It’s pronounced “core,” but spelled “corps.” I’m not trying to be an ass, that’s just one of my pet peeves. BTW, how are you doing tonight, bro?
March 9th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Sorry for saying “tonight.” I keep forgetting that you guys are on the west coast… and I no longer am.
I should’ve stayed in Pacifica.
March 9th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Yeah, Dez could return kick returns as well, if he can catch. In all honesty I hope they draft a O-LM. We need blcoking bad man. I am know big Russel fan but looking at all of our QBs last year. They had one thing in common they were getting blitz and stcuk like crazy!
Heck the way Al has been forking money out to @$$’s like Walker that I still can’t understand. Why not go get Marchall from Denver and give him a Walker contract. You may get more return.
March 9th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Steve – I see what you mean. I’m generally very good with English but I overlooked that one. I’m good with life…I always look on the positive side. In regards to the Raiders inactivity…I see to be the opposite for some reason. How bout you? You’re from Pacifica?
March 9th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
If we need a big QB in the later rounds Pike from Cincy will be around but he would get killed with our current line. The guy is 6′6″ and he may not be moble enough to be a Raider QB. You have to run for your life to be a QB in silver and black. But heck with RUssel and two second team gym rats, why not?
March 9th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Before anyone kills me let clear the air. Russel sucks more than the plan B QBs on the squad.
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If we need a big QB in the later rounds Pike from Cincy will be around but he would get killed with our current line. The guy is 6′6″ and he may not be moble enough to be a Raider QB. You have to run for your life to be a QB in silver and black. But heck with RUssel and two second team gym rats, why not?
March 9th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
CJ – Because Marshall can be a headache and you’re giving up a 1st round pick for a guy thats quick to slip on the banana peel. Antonio Bryant however is a free agent so he would make more sense even if he is a headache as well cuz he doesn’t cost us a draft pick.
March 9th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
After Priesttj admitted that he knew of this specifically, should be interesting to see his 180 tonight.
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Dude, the last guy on earth you should be calling out is Priest! Take a look in the mirror! First you pass on hearsay from JAMIE FOXX like he’s Tom Brokaw or something. Now this BS from some Raider basher that was an obvious joke???? You’ve officially reached a new low!
March 9th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
this is why the bills have sucked and will sucked for years to come……………
March 9th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
why is sandra bullock not hot at all ?
March 9th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
sooo, who saw this movie BROOKLYNS FINEST ? richard gere was exceptional . wesley snipes first role since gettin outta jail .. and that young dude that was in training day was darn good too .
March 9th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
anyone played bayonetta on ps3. fukkin radical game man . youre like killin angels and stuff .
March 9th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
LA to the Bay,
Cable has Al’s ear?
So, it’s Cable’s idea to use an outdated defensive scheme?
Cable’s idea to blow half our salary on our kicker and punter?
Cable’s idea to draft Heyward Bey?
Cable only got “Al’s ear” on JaMarcus after the season was already ruined. And, we’ll see if Cable has Al’s ear on JaMarcus starting next season. I doubt it.
Having Al’s ear isn’t enough. He has to take control. If Al fires him, so be it. He’ll be scapegoated for Al’s failures, anyway. Unless, of course, he just wants to collect a check.
March 9th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
All this stuff about “I hope Cable can get this done”, “I hope Cable can motivate this player or that player”.
Either you believe he’ll do it, or you don’t. If Parcells was our coach, would you be saying those things? Gruden? Of course not. With those guys, you’d know that either he will motivate whatever player, or that player will be gone.
“I hope he can do this or that” = Another puppet.
March 9th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
so yeah, my ex came thru yesterday . didnt let me hit that sweet surrender tho. she claimed she was on her woman issue
. i grabbed dat azz tho . it was soft
March 9th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Raider Debo???? Are you Oakglenn??? Huh???? Know why I think you are???? Can you take a guess??????????????
March 9th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Hows it goin MR?
March 9th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Has anyone here ever stopped to think that this team has had 8 top 10 draft picks, in 8 years, and can’t put a team on the field that can win even 6 games in a season in that time? Hmmmmm
March 9th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Raider Debo???? Are you Oakglenn??? Huh???? Know why I think you are???? Can you take a guess??????????????
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No. Tell me. And who is Oakglenn?
March 9th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
24,
Sorry it took so long to reply; I had a customer come in and had to deal with them. I’m not from Pacific, but I lived there ‘06-’09. I’m originally from Virginia, but spent ‘99-’09 all over the country… and now I’m turning 30 this month and moved back to Va where it all started. Maybe the Raiders will turn it around since it would be incredibly inconvenient for me to make it to the games now, lol. That would be just my luck… and I’d be happy as hell to see it happen.
March 9th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Rolando McClain and Anthony Davis, the two most likely draft picks, are both Juniors.
I wonder what the difference in success rates is for Juniors/Seniors as draft picks???
March 9th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
Jerry,
A big part of your artcle is missing….like….. who would the RT if Davis doesnt go the draft route. Is it just Pears and Barnes?
March 9th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
RTay, we can only hope that Al is thinking the lines, back to the basic Raider football that has carried this team for years. I also believe in Santa!
March 9th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
SATANFEARS,
Why would you or she let her period stop you from having sex? If you both want it, menstruation doesn’t matter. In fact, it’ll relieve her cramps and make her feel better even after you’re done. If you’re afraid to do it while she’s raggin, stop being afraid… it’s no big deal… the bloody egg washes right off when you’re done. I promise.
March 9th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
so much for free agency
March 9th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
Steve, I’ve choked on eggs before, left a lasting impression. Satan, got slow, oral, only! Just speaking of experience as a cook!
March 9th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
good evening RAIDER NATION!!!!
March 9th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
LMFAO @ 86.
There’s nothing like a red chin a few days a month.
March 9th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
hey guys my names is tony been a raiduh for 30 years. i am from so. cal live in dallas/ft worth metroplex now. raider nation is still alive and well here based on the thanksgiving day game i attended this past season i would say 25-30% OF CROWD WAS IN SILVER & BLACK!!!. i have been reading your blogs for quite some time and finally decided to join in.
March 9th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
If I were Randy Moss right now, I’d be saying, “Something fishy is going on here.”
March 9th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
30 – Welcome to Hell!
March 9th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
stevealford u nasty dude….
March 9th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Oh, 24, Randy been using that line for years, now, lol.
March 9th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
i am not here to talk about anyones job,family,race or any other bull. just straight raider talk. first i must say i like the cuts we made ellis walker green even my boy fargas all had to go some sooner than others…now we must focus on the draft and pick 8 quality guys whom at least 7 must make the roster and at least 3-4 might have to be starters
March 9th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
not hell my friend just stuck in purgatory lol
March 9th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
tony , run while u still have a chance
March 9th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
Tony, you are now stuck here forever, wecome to the Raider Zone. Rod Serling will be your guide………
March 9th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
im abig twilight zone guy anyways lol
March 9th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
well new guy . im not here to talk raiders./ well i will like 4 % of the time. my posts will consist of reporting on how well stalkin my ex fiancee is goin . / my disdain in regards to all things RICOCHET. my movie reviews. and my addiction to porn
March 9th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
dont judge me
March 9th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Welcome to our world, Tony, sit back and relax!…LOL
March 9th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
we can talk some movies bro… rented law abiding citizen ill give it a solid 8 satan..
March 9th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
that leonidas dude was good in law abiding citizen . ehhh the movie was exciting tho .. yeah 8 seems fair
March 9th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
i was surprised that he could do more than just grunt…
March 9th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
Out, gnite Bro’s
March 9th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
later TC
March 9th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
ill give you my mock draft tell me what you think i actually have 2 one based for off the other for def. these are all picks on projections where they should go
1. rolando mcclain mlb
2. charles brown ot
3a.lamar houston dt/de
3b.toby gerhart rb
4. pat angerer olb
5a.brandon carter og
5b. kevin thomas cb
7. john conner fb
March 9th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
Bob, doing good. Watching Whiners/Cowboys ‘93 NFC championship on NFLN. Hey now.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Thats weird…My mock draft goes like this…(according to Al Davis.)
1. WR
2. CB
3. WR
3. WR
4. FS
5. CB
7. DE
March 9th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Or is it…
1. CB
2. DE
3. WR
3. DE
4. CB
5. FS
7. WR
Anyways…something like that.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
Hey 30YR,
Welcome aboard man.I hear ya. I’m just here to talk Raider football too. Some of the name calling, pizzing matches on here can get tedious and drag this blog down. I’ve been a 30+yr fan myself. I grew up in a family of die hard Browns fans, but I fell under the spell of the dark side of the force at an early age. My Mom loved her Kardiac Kids and Brian Sipe. I was about 12 when Mike Davis undercut that pass intended for Ozzie Newsome in the back of the endzone. I can remember her looking at me through tear stained cheeks:”are you happy, now?”. What was I supposed to say. Couple of weeks later, Kenny King was streaking down that sideline with an 80 yrd SB XV TD.
I’ve experienced the good times and suffered these last seven years, but the Silver and Black will be back!
March 9th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
we will Buckeye im sure of that.. its a cycle weve been in a bad grinder for 7 years now! time to get out of this funk
March 9th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Yes…The Raiders will be back if you wait another 30 years. By then there will be flying cars, Al Davis will be built together as a robot that will sustain his life, Marijuana will be 100% legal.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
i think bob chandler was out in front of kenny on that 80yarder if im not mistaken
March 9th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
My draft order goes…
1. OT
2. LB
3. DT
4. G
5. KR
6. DT
7. DE
Al Davis goes…
1. Non-football playing athlete
2. inexperinced football playing athlete
3. Good Pick usually but not a need position
4. Good Pick but usually the typical CB/FS/SS
5. Never makes the team
6. Never makes the team
7. Never makes the team
Come on 24 get it right LOL
March 9th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
I love how Raiderfan likes to say losing is a “cycle”. LOL. The Raiders will one day win again, the day AFTER Al Davis dies will be the beginning of actual re-building. Hope that day comes soon.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
trading that #8 pick for 2 or 3 more picks would not be bad in my opinion.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
I never payed any attention to Debo but now that you brought it up I went scrolling and yah Debo is OakGlen.
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# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Raider Debo???? Are you Oakglenn??? Huh???? Know why I think you are???? Can you take a guess??????????????
March 9th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
# SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
well new guy . im not here to talk raiders./ well i will like 4 % of the time. my posts will consist of reporting on how well stalkin my ex fiancee is goin .
Rumor has it your “ex” has a disdain for juvenile moronic head up ass behavior.
As well as hanging around illiterates.
My suggestion to you is Hooked on Phonics.
Yes, it can work for you.
Then send your ex a letter, and hopefully her being able to understand the new you, instead of trying to decipher your gibberish, might get you the opportunity to spend more money on her.
give it a try, Gomer.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/003624.html
The Year 2040
March 9th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
I was at this game MR. Print that.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
RaiderRes – Pretty much.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
30 Yr,
I was on the McClain at eight bandwagon early. MLB is in desperate need of an upgrade. Was impressed with him from what I saw SEC v Florida, and BCS v Texas. The guy is big, instinctive and supposed to be a leader and a film junkie. However, Al rarely drafts LB in Rd 1, especially that high.
Lately, been warming to the idea of Iupati at G, opening holes for Bush and Dmac, and hope Spikes or Spoon slide to Rd 2. But if the Raiders drafted Rolando McClain in Rd 1, my feelings wouldn’t be hurt in the slightest.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Geeez…that last site sucked compared…this is better.
http://www.prophecies.us/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2482:daily-life-in-2040s-aamp-2050s-europe&catid=1:predictions&Itemid=9
March 9th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
nevermind…that site sucked too. Anyways.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
I’d love for the raiders to snag greg hardy in the third somehow.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
need a run stuffer on d BAD a dt who commands a double team up the gut and a mlb who can take on the fb/g/c shed the block and make the tackle. 2 freakin guys like that on d can change everything for us defensivley…
March 9th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
# 24 Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
So I’m going over PFT.com news today and this is what I have learned…
Jamal Williams (DT) joined the Broncos.
Thomas Jones (RB) joined the Chiefs.
Jarvis Green (DE) joined the Broncos
What have the Raiders done? Man this sucks.
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Yeah….Jamal Williams and Jarvis Green should have been players the Raiders needed to target….but chances are they didn’t even want to deal with the old man Al. I don’t blame them.
The looney old man Al can only attract a handful of players in the NFL to come to Oakland.
After the draft we will know whether or not if the Raiders will be projected to come in last place in the AFC West next year.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
hardys overrated real soft was he at the combine???
March 9th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
With Mop Handle being given his walking papers, does that suggest OT is a given at eight? Okung will likely be gone. That means probably Trent Williams or the workout warrior from Maryland. Or does Khalif get a second chance at RT, while a lower rd pick is given time to develop? Ciron Black of LSU in Rd 4 or 5, maybe.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
I really dont care much about the draft, AL will draft who he likes, after that only can I say as a fan if its good draft or bad. My main concern is free agency, so far we haven’t gotten any new player, Now that is a concern.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Re: Post 345.
I just finished reading the Tuesday Edition of MMQB. Apparently Charlie read it much earlier today, as per the contents of his post. At least he was smart enough to change it from Brees to Gannon and avoid TOTAL plagiarism. I guess there’s that for him…
March 9th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
Eve, whos out there ya want?…crappy year for free agents. Print that.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
I love how Raiderfan likes to say losing is a “cycle”. LOL. The Raiders will one day win again, the day AFTER Al Davis dies will be the beginning of actual re-building. Hope that day comes soon.
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Yep….
March 9th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
charles grant was released by saints need to target him… hes been in the league about 8 years now has had some injuries in the past but who hasnt. he still knows how to put pressure on qb tho
March 9th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
# Raiders4eve Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
I really dont care much about the draft, AL will draft who he likes, after that only can I say as a fan if its good draft or bad. My main concern is free agency, so far we haven’t gotten any new player, Now that is a concern.
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Holes need to be primarily filled through free agency and the team needs to be built through the draft.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Anthony Davis may be the next great OT.
Great work as always, Jerry. Thanks.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
there u go this is a crappy FA year not alot out there… i totally agree..al signs some 34 yr ol dt in williams he plays 6,7,8 games gets hurt everyone bags on al “what an idiot why did he sign thaT guy for??? its a no win with al right now based on his previous f-ups.. need to build thru the draft or make some trades here thats the bottom line. call me crazy stupid whatever we need to get more talent on the field to win some games
March 9th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Norco,
As the board’s resident medicine man/Shaman I thought you had summoned the spirit of the late Jim Morrison, and went into the California desert, and had a peyote induced vision of greatness for Jamarcus and the Raiders in ‘10, from your seats in row one. Pro bowls and AFC West titles? Word.
Now you’re saying the big man isn’t even going to make it out of Napa. WTF happened man?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
518-good in principal if there are worthy player to fill the holes.This year that isn’t the case.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Derek Anderson says “ruthless” Browns fans “don’t deserve a winner”
Posted by Mike Florio on March 9, 2010 10:06 PM ET
Former Browns quarterback Derek Anderson, cut on Tuesday by the team, ripped Cleveland fans via an e-mail sent to Jeff Schudel of the News-Herald.
“The fans are ruthless and don’t deserve a winner,” Anderson said. “I will never forget getting cheered when I was injured. I know at times I wasn’t great. I hope and pray I’m playing when my team comes to town and [we] roll them.”
Anderson also said that, after the 2009 season ended, he heard from no one with the organization until learning that he had been cut.
The cheering incident to which Anderson refers occurred in November 2008, when fans reacted happily to the fact that Anderson was on the ground, writhing in pain. As it turned out, he had torn a knee ligament.
The team’s quarterback quandary traces to the 2007 season. Rookie Brady Quinn held out in a contract dispute, making Anderson the backup to Charlie Frye in Week One. Frye was benched during the 34-7 loss to the Steelers, and he was traded to Seattle a couple of days later. Anderson took the reins.
It was presumed that Anderson was merely holding the spot until Quinn was ready, which of course meant that Anderson experienced no pressure. Which allowed him to hold the ball a little more loosely and play well. Until the playoffs were on the line and the pressure caused him not to play well.
After the season, the Browns badly misread the situation, re-signing Anderson and making him the starter. Inevitably, he held the ball tighter and looked over his shoulder and ultimately was benched. After Quinn was injured, Anderson returned, only to suffer the knee injury that prompted fans to applaud.
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Good stuff. A great example of why I hate “QB competitions”.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
if it involves possibly trading #21 for more picks more players…do it worked out well for the cowboys whenever they traded there best player hershel walker for a slew of picks that ultimatley led to 3 super bowls…
March 9th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Buck…you are aware yesterday was all make believe right?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Norco Bob
Not entirely, there are plenty of players who can help this team.
Mawae is a must have for the OL.
Ryan Lilja is a must have guard, Superbowl experience.
Derrick Mason can teach our young wrs
Joey Porter will add toughness to this defense
Jason Taylor can replace the veteran presence Ellis added
Torry Holt is another mentor for our Wrs
Charles Grant is another DE available
Chester Pitts can play ZBS for Cable
Marlin Jackson is a serviceable CB
There you go.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
# 30 year raider Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
if it involves possibly trading #21 for more picks more players…do it worked out well for the cowboys whenever they traded there best player hershel walker for a slew of picks that ultimatley led to 3 super bowls…
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Nah….we are talking about Al Davis drafting here.
Getting that many picks means nothing for this dis organization. Can’t compare what the Cowboys did in the 90’s to the crappy way Al Davis drafts….especially when he has a tool for a head coach.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
Mawae yes,…all those others, no thanks.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Oakglen, why do you hate “Qb competitions”? Another insane post from you under another alias.
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# RaiderDebo Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Good stuff. A great example of why I hate “QB competitions”.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
We dont need old broken down players, certainly not “mentor” players,…hell with all those players nobody else wants, weve done that for years and look where its got us,..what we need to do is a better job in the draft. Print that.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
Some of those would have been great players to have-5 to 10 years ago.Some of you act as if we just need to plug in a player here or a player there to be contenders.Hate to burst your bubble,but 1 or 2 old over the hill vets. aren’t what we need.We need to continue to build this young team with draft choices,then in a couple years we can get the 1 or 2 FAs to fill holes.Until then we have to go with the young guys and see what we have and need.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Norco
Do you even know all the others I mentioned? If you going to say no, you gotta give a reason why u say no, am i right? What do you know about them, do you know that Lilja is only 28 yrs old, or that Pitts is perfect fit for our Zone Blocking scheme, why you say no? its not as if we have better players.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
# Raiders4eve Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Norco Bob
Not entirely, there are plenty of players who can help this team.
Mawae is a must have for the OL.
Ryan Lilja is a must have guard, Superbowl experience.
Derrick Mason can teach our young wrs
Joey Porter will add toughness to this defense
Jason Taylor can replace the veteran presence Ellis added
Torry Holt is another mentor for our Wrs
Charles Grant is another DE available
Chester Pitts can play ZBS for Cable
Marlin Jackson is a serviceable CB
There you go.
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Mawae – YES
Lilja – NO. Super Bowl experience? lol Must have? lol
Mason – YES please
Porter – Maybe. yes w/o attitude
Taylor – NO.
Grant – YES. But not a pressing need
Pitts – YES.
Jackson – Wouldnt Mind.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
It took me a while, but I finally started to watch the tv show, The Office,..and I love it…cool show,..by the way I never watched Seinfeld until it quit making new shows, I watched my first episode like in 98, a year after it went off the air. Hey now. Anyone else in here smoking grass tonight?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Bob,
Far out. After having 24 hrs to think about it, I say hell no to LT in Oakland. Don’t want to see his “I’m a little teapot”, dark visor wearing, sitting on the sideline pouting Azz in Silver and Black.
And Bob. If you’re into that type of thing, have you seen the work of documentary filmmaker James Fox? I’ve seen two. “Out of the Blue”, and “I know what I saw.” First rate stuff. Interviews former astronauts Gordon Cooper and Edger Mitchell. Pretty Cool.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
# Raiders4eve Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Norco
Do you even know all the others I mentioned? If you going to say no, you gotta give a reason why u say no, am i right? What do you know about them, do you know that Lilja is only 28 yrs old, or that Pitts is perfect fit for our Zone Blocking scheme, why you say no? its not as if we have better players.
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Do you know that Lilja was a starter for a line that was dead last in the NFL in rushing. And had Peyton Manning picking defenses apart. p.s. Was cut too..NO THANKS.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Porter is nothing without his attitude,..his attitude is what made him great,..but hes washed up,…nope to all those free agents that nobody else wants,..will take Mawae for a year though,..but wont happen, Cable likes Sateale. Word.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
When we were wining in 2002, how many players we had over 30, come on guys, rookies need mentors and besides Mawae and an RG like Lilja who is only 28 yrs old is not bad. Mason can teach DHB how to catch and run routes, Charles Grant is a beast if you guys so him last year.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
The only free agent even possibly coming here that might be a decent sign would be Derrick Mason.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
ones man trash can be another mans treasure…. true but out of all the players mentioned LILja, Grant and mason would be the only ones i would bring in
March 9th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Lilja is good pass protector that is what we need, we need to protect our QB, we need to have balance in the line, we can’t just have guys who are run blockers. I will take Lilja over our RG right now, besides I don’t think Walker can translate to playing RG.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
I watched DHB play in the preseason. I watched him play in the regular season. He never showed me any glimmers of potential.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Lilja was cut because he couldn’t run block.Don’t we already have a roster full of those kind of lineman?While it usually takes a few years for WRs to pan out,you want an old WR to come in and take time away from young guys who need to play.Porter gets cut everywhere he goes and this time by Parcells-there must be a reason.Taylor=history.We have serviceable CBs.Holt=ancient.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
I would say Mawae, Lilja, Pitts, Mason would contribute to atleast four wins for this team.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
# lefty12 Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
Some of those would have been great players to have-5 to 10 years ago.Some of you act as if we just need to plug in a player here or a player there to be contenders.Hate to burst your bubble,but 1 or 2 old over the hill vets. aren’t what we need.We need to continue to build this young team with draft choices,then in a couple years we can get the 1 or 2 FAs to fill holes.Until then we have to go with the young guys and see what we have and need.
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This is exactly right. Say you signed some one like Mawae, knowing of all the units on a football team the offensive line is the one that requires the most work together in communication, practice and timing. How many years are we going to get out of a 40 year old Mawae? Ten? All signing guys like Mawae would do is put off rebuilding even further. Isn’t that what almost all of you are lambasting Davis for?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
On the other hand, that’s not entirely unexpected from a rookie WR. Lots of great WRs didn’t even see the field in their rookie seasons.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Just because a player is over 30 you can’t assume that they will be “mentors”, if anything,they want to stay in the league and will try to take your spot. Its cut throat in the nfl.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
# r8eray Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
I watched DHB play in the preseason. I watched him play in the regular season. He never showed me any glimmers of potential.
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Can’t disagree here R8eray. The only hope we have is he did look a tiny bit better later in the year. The operative word is “tiny.”
March 9th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
I don’t think any team will offer Mawae much money. He’s a big cheese for the union and owner’s don’t want to deal with a guy like that right now.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Lefty12
Dude, we don’t have a good RG like Lilja, he is solid pass blocker, one man is not responsible for run blocking its team philosophy that they cant run in Colts land. Wouldn’t you have loved that we had Mason last year instead of seeing DHB struggle? Mawae produced over 2000 yards for CJ, you dont think the guy is better then Satele, is Satele any good? I think he is just a backup.
Besides do you guys think all the rookies we draft this year will lead us to wining games right away. Rookies need time and mentorship
March 9th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Here are Heyward-Bey’s rookie stats: 9 catches, 124 yards
March 9th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Derrick Mason retired last year and then changed his mind. Not exactly the player we need. He never was too good in his prime anyway. Keep trying Oakglen/Seymour/Debo..
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# Seymour Bush Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
The only free agent even possibly coming here that might be a decent sign would be Derrick Mason.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
r8eray,
DHB could triple the number of catches he had last year, and it would still be pathetic for a starting WR in the NFL.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Derrick Mason is what 5′10, 185? And has played 13 years in the league and had what, 70 catches last year? That’s the kind of guy you want to teach your young wide outs how to run routes, stay healthy, and be a pro. Something Issac Bruce did with Crabtree last year for the Whiners.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Later in the year he looked better? LOL
Especially the last 4 weeks when he didn’t even suit up eh Oakglen ? Very solid posts Oakglen, keep setting them up and i’ll knock em down!
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# Seymour Bush Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Can’t disagree here R8eray. The only hope we have is he did look a tiny bit better later in the year. The operative word is “tiny.”
March 9th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Shark-is that your thoughts or did you plagiarize them too?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
DHB is lost confused and scared!!! thats what i saw
March 9th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
These numbers don’t offer much hope…or do they?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
No rookie team ever won.
Veteran teams do win.
Do you guys want to go through another 5-11 season, or move to 8-8 or 9-7?
You cant win by plugging 7 rookies in the starting lineup and expecting them to translate to 8-8 season. You need a balance between young and old.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Mason doesnt want to come to a team to teach his teammates how to run routes.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Derrick Mason retired last year and then changed his mind. Not exactly the player we need. He never was too good in his prime anyway. Keep trying Oakglen/Seymour/Debo.
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Derrick Mason was Flacco’s go to guy ever since Flacco came in the league. Mason had 70 catches last year, and he was going to call it quits but HIS TEAM MATES coaxed him out to play one more year. That’s EXACTLY, the kind of guy you want on your team, unless you are a grade A moron that doesn’t know anything, and thinks Sarah Palin is a genius. Right mistabrOwn?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Here are rookie stats for some other now-prominent WRs:
March 9th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
MistabrOwn you have no hope? What’s wrong? You stupid again?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Good comparison of Bruce and the 49′ers to Mason. They had a group of raw mid round WR’s who needed a mentor. Bruce fit that bill. Mason could do that for the Raiders like Javon Walker never could.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
OakGlen, I wouldn’t want Mason the last 5 years of his career. Thats the difference between you and me, your standards are low, your a Liberal so you are enamored with low standards and misery.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Robert Meachem: 0 catches, 0 yards
Miles Austin: 0 catches, 0 yards
Santana Moss: 2 catches, 40 yards
Donald Driver: 3 catches, 31 yards
Vincent Jackson: 3 catches, 59 yards
Pierre Garcon: 4 catches, 23 yards
Jerricho Cotchery: 6 catches, 60 yards
Steve Smith (NYG): 8 catches, 63 yards
Steve Smith (CAR): 10 catches, 154 yards
March 9th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
How’s Sarah Palin looking MistabrOwn? She got her genius grant yet? Ya hear that Rush limbaugh is leaving the country? You going with him?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
that’s right. Sarah Palin is the cream of the crop isn’t she mistabrOwn? What a moron.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Plagiarism in a blog? I cut and paste that article for the readers to see,apparently missed some of the quote that indicated the author. Big deal.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Mawae can teach the next Center lined up for the position the same way he did in Tennessee, they are moving on with the backup guy. Mason can help this team, God knows if Schillens gets injured (he never been healthy ever) and DHB struggles, we need a guy to play along Murphy and that won’t be Watkins or who knows what we have in Nick Miller, Lilja is better then most OL we got right now, he comes from a wining organization and is young enough to start.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
A Sarah Palin supporter accusing others of having low standards…
March 9th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
If Lilja is soooo good,why did the Colts cut him?I don’t think all of our draft choices will help us win a lot of games this year,but hopefully they will for years to come.These old guys you want will only be here a year or two and will hinder the young players from getting valuable experience.What is more important building for the long haul or winning a couple more games next year?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Norco Bob Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Mason doesnt want to come to a team to teach his teammates how to run routes.
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I’m sure he’d prefer a shot at a superbowl, but if his only choice is the Raiders or retirement, then he might, I repeat, might just choose the Raiders.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Oakglen, after you said Russell is a “bonafide NFl Qb” what little credibility you had went out the window.
And didnt you follow that up with “Hey lets get behind Cable I like his trajectory”. LMAO and your prediction of winning the last 7 out of 10 games is what made you leave this blog and comeback under this new name.
You’re the laughingstock of this Blog, right up there with KoolKell and Tj.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
MistabrOwn you are a bona fide dolt. Why don’t you tell us how the 1980 recession was worse than this one, or how there is no such thing as global warming even tho 125 entire countries signed on to reduce it.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Heyward-Bey had a better rookie season than Miles Austin, Santana Moss, Donald Driver, and Vincent Jackson.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
Sure mistabrOwn, you are a dolt. No one cares what you think.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
a blend of old and new is always best but with the direction i think were going its best to go young…weve tried the retreads before the warren sapps the lamont jordans the javon walkers lol never works out for us. #92 is the defensive mentor what 3 time super bowl champion need to follow his lead. need that run stuffing MLB and that DT who can move people around we can do that with this draft
March 9th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
r8eray Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Robert Meachem: 0 catches, 0 yards
Miles Austin: 0 catches, 0 yards
Santana Moss: 2 catches, 40 yards
Donald Driver: 3 catches, 31 yards
Vincent Jackson: 3 catches, 59 yards
Pierre Garcon: 4 catches, 23 yards
Jerricho Cotchery: 6 catches, 60 yards
Steve Smith (NYG): 8 catches, 63 yards
Steve Smith (CAR): 10 catches, 154 yards
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These guys weren’t getting full time minutes like DHB was. And don’t forget all the drops and misplayed balls…
March 9th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Heyward-Bey had a better rookie season than Miles Austin, Santana Moss, Donald Driver, and Vincent Jackson.
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did they start 10 games?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
LOL
Oakglen, is Palin on your mind when talking NFL football?
Like I said I would take Palin over this imbecile 0bama any day, and shes not my 1st, 2nd, or 3rd choice. Ironically theres millions of others who would like their vote back and cant wait to vote Barback out.
Anything else? Do you wanna talk global warming hoax too?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Mike Mayock, the draft commentator for the NFL said Russell was the best QB prospect “he had ever seen.” So, you know more than Obama AND the NFL’s own draft experts! Keep ‘em coming mistabrOwn! We believe you are a genius!
March 9th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
When you hear radio hosts, sports t.v. anchors, whatever, talking about teams signing good players and how these players will help the team, it’s under the assumption that these teams already have a system in place, and are built well in the trenches. We don’t have the system or trenches built. So when we sign or draft backs and receivers with decent potential, it’s not like when the better teams do it. They have the nucleus in tact.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
Seymour, why dont you say this again:
“I dont know who that Oakglen guy is but he must be a legend in here”
C’mon you pathetic ingrate give us another good laugh..
March 9th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
rberay…. if DHB is half of anyone of the players u mentioned would be a miracle
March 9th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
cc times has a pretty decent political blog, for those interested. Word.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
Robert Meachem, Santana Moss, Plaxico Burress, and Roddy White all had poor rookie years. All of them were considered busts at one point in time. All of them turned it around.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
MistabrOwn there are 125 other countries signed on/. Why don’t you go tell them it’s a hoax that somehow you figured out with your wack0o weirdo cronies who want to keep high standards with Sarah Palin! What a moron!!
March 9th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
Im not of course. Jerry Brown, I love you man.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
MB, YOU would take Palin over Obama. The American people were offered the choice two years ago and chose Obama, by a landslide.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Burress played 12 games and averaged 23 yards per game.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
They may not have started 10 games,but they played with a bonafide NFL QB.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Im giving dhb another year, Im betting he will have a good year. Print that.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Can somebody explain this mindless rant I have no idea how he mixed in 0bama with Mayock!
Whats your point Oakglen? Mayock said that before he was drafted. You said Russell is a bonafide Qb in 3rd year! LMAO!!!!!!!!!
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# Seymour Bush Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Mike Mayock, the draft commentator for the NFL said Russell was the best QB prospect “he had ever seen.” So, you know more than Obama AND the NFL’s own draft experts! Keep ‘em coming mistabrOwn! We believe you are a genius!
March 9th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
HERE WE GO AGAIN! Once you start getting your ASS KICKED every single time, then just like wack-o, out comes the “well, you’re Oakglen, and Captain Black and Raider Dave allegations. STFU dude. You live in a dumpster. Is that your high standards?
March 9th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Actually McCain ran against 0bama.
MR, I feel like I’ve lost 100 brain cells every time you post to me, do me a favor and unplug your PC and give it to charity, thanks.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Lefty12
Do you think Ellis hindered Shaughnessy development or improved it? I rest my case.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
MB, show me one poll, or even a shred of evidence, anywhere, that shows where people who voted for Obama, mind you, people who voted for him, now dislike him because he’s not CONSERVATIVE enough for them. Again, people who now dislike him because he’s not conservative enough, or that he’s too liberal. Show me one poll, or any proof whatsoever of it. The only polls I’ve seen indicate that people who voted for him are turned off because he’s been too conservative, too centrist. But if you can show me one poll that demonstrates Obama voters, again, Obama voters, people who voted for Obama, are turning on him because he’s too liberal for them, I’ll believe you.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
mistabrOwn would choose idiocy over substance. mistabrOwn couldn’t find his ass with help from Sarah Palin’s love child.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
MB, who was McCain’s running mate?
March 9th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
You need a balance between veterans and young guys otherwise the team will be too imbalanced. You can win with a veteran team like NE done, you can’t win with rookie team filled with second year and third year players cause they don’t even know how to win. Period.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
it still pisses me off at the end of the KC game whenever the ball hits DHB right in the head and floats up in the air for the easy pick..
March 9th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
SeymourGlen,
Oakglen used to always say I live in a dumpster. Do you see where you are goofing up or are you just soout of your head nothing computes ?
March 9th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
You guys and your silly politics,..cc times has a decent blog for that…not goin over well here, as none of you have a clue about politics,…or football really so nevermind, go ahead. Hey now.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
mistabrOwn there are 125 ENTIRE NATIONS that I am sure would love for you to convince them that this whole global warming thing is a hoax perpetrated by the liberals. The problem is the second you started to explain, they would take you and throw you in the looney bin. We would then have to come explain to them that you are not crazy, you’re stupid.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Oakglen, why do you hate “Qb competitions”? Another insane post from you under another alias.
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# RaiderDebo Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Good stuff. A great example of why I hate “QB competitions”.
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Don’t think it brings out the best in either guy. When a guy is looking over his shoulder, I think he plays not to get pulled. Look at Alex Smith vs. Shaun Hill and DA vs Charlie Frye. The loser of the “QB competition” replaced the winner and finished the season as the starter in both cases. Can’t remember who said it, but it’s been said that if you have two QBs, you don’t have a QB.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Our problem is not the age of our players, or not having a young/old balance. Our problem is that we have no real system designed to compete in today’s league, and don’t have our offensive line and defensive front 7 at a competitive level. You have to get those two things down first. You can’t just sign a bunch of players, throw them out there, and see what happens. We’ve tried that for what, 7 years now?
March 9th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
MR, if you dont know who McCains running mate was go google it I’m not going to answer rhetorical idiotic questions from you.
McCain ran against 0bama. McCain is a jacka$$ and should retire or become a Dem.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
Bob, why don’t you go to the CC times and tell them all your cool partying stories, no less off topic than our politics.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
The current prez is the most gutless puppet this side of tom cable,..the previous one was likely mentally retarded, the one before that was a compulsive liar,..and so on and so one.,…people around the world know that the office of prez of the usa is a powerless puppet, has been for decades…sad but true.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
MB, Sarah Palin was McCain’s running mate. She was on his ticket. She was listed on the ballot. So the American people had a choice between her and Obama.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
mistabrOwn you have not explained how Sarah Palin is the epitome of American political excellence. To almost 80% of Americans she is an absolute moronic joke. Kind of just like you.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
Oh MR,..play nice ol buddy.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
By the way, when I feel like bloggin politics, thats where I do it. Hey now.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
NorthernD Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Norco Bob Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Mason doesnt want to come to a team to teach his teammates how to run routes.
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I’m sure he’d prefer a shot at a superbowl, but if his only choice is the Raiders or retirement, then he might, I repeat, might just choose the Raiders
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Mason’s an amazing competitor.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
is Derek Anderson coming to oakland?
March 9th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Bob, the president isn’t a powerless puppet anymore. Bush changed that with the patriot act. The problem is Obama isn’t taking advantage that Bush and Cheney bestowed onto the presidency. I’ll agree with you on Obama being spineless. That he is. But spineless to stand up to Republicans.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Why would a person blog politics in a football blog when one is a click away on cc times home page?
March 9th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Actually I favor competition at every position. I am sure that Oakglen guy does as well. I think Gradkowski and a 2010 draft choice should compete for the job. Obviously Russell doesn’t want it.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
I like obama, voted for him, will again,..but hes not doing a good job. And dont think he will change. Doesnt really matter though.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
# SharkCatcher Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
is Derek Anderson coming to oakland?
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No.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
if john mccain had rommney as his running mate he might have won
March 9th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Bob, obviously we’re not going to stop talking politics. Try not to let it get you down, old buddy. Have a couple of brews, pop a couple of pills, take a bong rip. Cheer up.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Biden is an embarrassment, O should make jerry brown his next vp. Word.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Im always cheerful Holmes.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
For what it’s worth, I think DHB will be out of the league in three years.
The size speed is off the charts, but he just doesn’t look like he wants to catch the football.
I don’t know if there’s too much pressure for him to handle, but he may just lack the mental ability to perform at a high level.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Getting high watching The Office,…how can ya be unhappy doin that? That Dwight is awesome.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Yeh, Mitt Romney definitely would have tapped into Obama’s base of liberal gen x’ers, women and minorities…
March 9th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
LMFAO
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Seymour Bush Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Actually I favor competition at every position. I am sure that Oakglen guy does as well
March 9th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
I still need mistabrOwn to explain how Sarah Palin raises the standard. Didn’t Sarah quit? Didn’t she just up and quit? But somehow mistabrOwn is going to explain how quitting is raising the standard! Let’s hear it mistabrOwn
March 9th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
Bob, you’re not getting high watching The Office. You’re on a blog trying to control the conversation.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
Sarah Palin didn’t even raise the standards over Bush, let alone Obama. Bush has more class than Palin. Is even a little smarter than her. And he’s one of the biggest war criminals in history.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
no he would have gotten all the the people on the fence tho
March 9th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
# 30 year raider Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
if john mccain had rommney as his running mate he might have won
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What are you kidding? People that voted for that ticket voted for Palin. Seriously.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
No im not old buddy,..simmer down, do as ya please…but, well when I see you trying to talk politics,..well,..its not your strong point,..bashing Al youre better at bro. Hey now.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
Seymour, Romney would have helped McCain if it were 1820.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
i didnt want her in there
March 9th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Donald Trump for prez. Print that.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
I am convinced that Papa AL is foaming out the mouth and over this guy right now he is a beast and I really hope we pick him up!!
Bruce Campbell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnMm7AcJ7RI
March 9th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
Seymour, Romney would have helped McCain if it were 1820.
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hahaha. Good one.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Donald Trump joined the “how can global warming exist with this cold weather” club the other day, proving when it comes to anything other than buying real estate, he’s about as smart as his hairpiece. Trump already ran, anyway. In 2000. Couldn’t even beat out Pat Buchanon in the primaries. I think Buchanon wanted to reenact slavery.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Derrick Mason retired last year and then changed his mind. Not exactly the player we need. He never was too good in his prime anyway. Keep trying Oakglen/Seymour/Debo..
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So first off, mistabrOwn was claiming Derrick Mason was a quitter. Based on his beliefs on Sarah Palin, you would think he would want quitters on the roster.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
It is said DHB is a hard worker.i believe he had a difficult time handling the enormous pressure he put upon himself and the pressure by those (mostly our own fans) who hated him from the moment his name was announced as our pick.It remains to be seen whether he will become a decent player or not.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
2ndly Derrick Mason was in the top 20 in the league in receptions and yards even tho he played on a run lst big defense team that really didn’t need a big passing attack. he “retired” but his team mates wanted him back. But somehow mistabrOwn doesn’t think he would be an asset. I guess he wants permanent quitters to run the show: like Sarah Palin
March 9th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
I dont believe in global warming either.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
Where’d mistabrOwn go? Back to the dumpster I guess, with his beat. AGAIN.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Oakglen, I dont want Palin or Mason on the roster, ok? You and MR have diarrhea for brains. I also didnt use the words Palin and standards in the same sentence. You guys are sociopathic retards. Go play on train tracks you illiterate ingrates.
I’ve never seen such ignorant analogies from one person in my life!
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# Seymour Bush Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
So first off, mistabrOwn was claiming Derrick Mason was a quitter. Based on his beliefs on Sarah Palin, you would think he would want quitters on the roster.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
I dont believe in global warming either.
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Don’t worry, you don’t have to. It’s fine. As long as 125 other countries do, they’ll take care of it for you.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Highly considering a drive to In n Out Burger in P-Ville,…sure the heck sounds good.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Didn’t we already have a WR who wanted to retire?How did that work out?
March 9th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
Thats nice of them.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
Bob, you also don’t believe in being sober before noon.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
lefty12 Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
It is said DHB is a hard worker.i believe he had a difficult time handling the enormous pressure he put upon himself and the pressure by those (mostly our own fans) who hated him from the moment his name was announced as our pick.It remains to be seen whether he will become a decent player or not.
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The real question is do you sacrifice your team’s chance to win now by giving him playing time?
Or do you start someone else and hope DHB will get his act together without on the field experience?
March 9th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
So now I’m debo mistabrOwn? Who is debo? And other than your extreme paranoia where oakglen is lurking under every stone, what makes me debo?
March 9th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Jones goin to KC,..close call,..didnt want to see Fargas there.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
The type of people over 40 who don’t believe in global warming are the type of people over 40 who go to In N Out burger at 10pm
March 9th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
I dont drink before noon,..but yes do get high and pills before noon. Right on.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Im not over 40.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
Oakglen is in here beating his drum for Derrick Mason like a deranged loon & defending global warming in the coldest winter we’ve had in a long time.
We’re you dropped on your head repeatedly ?
March 9th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
I don’t know that he has to start,but he does have to play.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Might go to taco bell instead,..but its way up on broadway….my cousin works there so might get nice discount…(free)
March 9th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Another brilliant analogy from Oakglens brain dead twin.
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
The type of people over 40 who don’t believe in global warming are the type of people over 40 who go to In N Out burger at 10pm
March 9th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
I think Adam said today Mason staying another year in Baltimore.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
MB, what does a cold winter have to do with global warming? Do you even know what global warming is?
March 9th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
You eat fast food at 10pm, you have a cousin who works at Taco Bell…either you’re 16 years old, Bob, or you’re Larry the Cable Guy.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Mista, dont worry bout MR,..hes one of those guys that if you disagree with his beliefs youre a dork or whatever,..theres an MR in every crowd,..no big deal….they try and influence people, but cant,..frustrates them,..but I kind of like MR anyway,,…at least for entertainment value. Hey now.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Bob, you sounded so much cooler when you lied about going to bars, games, etc. Now it’s Taco Ball…where your cousin works? You’re slipping.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
I’m not trying to influence anyone.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
# NorthernD Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
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The real question is do you sacrifice your team’s chance to win now by giving him playing time?
Or do you start someone else and hope DHB will get his act together without on the field experience?
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What happened was Kiffin did not want to play Zack Miller, JLH, Shilens, Mario Hendrson or Russell and opted to play the vets like Curry, Culpepper, Mike Williams. So when those guys didn’t produce, not only did you not have any wins, you didn’t develop your young players either. Davis clearly sacrificed last year to get Russell, Dmac, Bush, DHB, Murphy some playing time. For the most part it was a good idea. Those guys HAVE to produce this year.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
MR,..like I told old kell,..it doesnt matter that you doubt everything I say, or what anyone says,..we dont come here for your aproval,..sorry bro.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Oh no sociopath Global Warming is wayyyyyyy over my head why dont you explain it to me..
And then after that you can prove to me how man has caused climate changes because the climate has been going up & down since the beginning of time, go ahead..
March 9th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Well its a good thing youre not trying MR,..because its not happening. Word.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Good for you, Bob.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
I never fell for global warming,…not even when I was reeeaaallly stoned. lol
March 9th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
Global warming is over your head, MB. You already revealed that.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
# Mistabr0wn Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
Oakglen is in here beating his drum for Derrick Mason like a deranged loon & defending global warming in the coldest winter we’ve had in a long time.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This guy is a dolt!
March 9th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
You didn’t fall for the concept of using alcohol and drugs in moderation either, Bob.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Losers like Al Gore see a drop of water come off a glacier,..and its the end of the world. lol
March 9th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
There’s more than a drop of water coming off glaciers.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
If I told you now Im considering Jack in the box on Missouri Flat?…would ya go for that story MR?
March 9th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Al Gore has made billions of this global warming hoax because loons like MR & Oakglen/Seymour/Debo/Bs Detector and KoolKell are the drones who lap up idiocy by the barrell full.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Jack it is,..cya,..and as always MR,…thanks for the laughs. lol
March 9th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
So is mistabrOwn NOW going to tell us he knows more about Derrick Mason’s and his 1000 yard season last year than John Harbaugh the Head Coach of the team, Ozzie Newsom one of the best personnel guys in the business and the rest of their team?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 9th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
MB, Al Gore isn’t the only person on the planet who believes in global warming. And as far as people making money off of it, I’m more concerned about those making money off of causing it than those making money stopping it.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
So we better stop driving SUV’s huh? Turn off our heaters? Live in huts like 0bamas brother? Regulate business to the point there is no manufacturing in this Country? Sounds good…and then blame Bush!
MR, one day your going to wakeup and realize you are a sucker and a ding dong.
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# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
There’s more than a drop of water coming off glaciers.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Wow. I wish I was cool and could drive to Jack N the Box.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
There’s more than a drop of water coming off glaciers.
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Glaciers? What glaciers? They’ve all melted. Everyone on Earth knows this but a bunch of complete idiots.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
I never said we should turn off heaters or live in huts. Nor did I say we should regulate businesses to the point there is no manufacturing. Neither did Gore, and neither did anyone that I know of.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
You watch too much FoxNews, MB. That’s where you got this “people who believe in global warming want us to live in huts” stuff. Just wacky.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
mistabrOwn I hate to break it to you but you are getting KILLED in here. As usual. So, now, again, explain how you know more about NFL personnel than Ozzie Newsom, who could have just cut Mason last year, or the year before, or even this year.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
Rush Limbaugh said it so it must be true.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Rush lies about everything, even about his promises to leave the country, unfortunately.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Al Gore has made billions of this global warming hoax
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Al Gore has made billions off this global warming hoax. You mean he made billions on the documentary movie about global warming, is that what you mean? I didn’t know documentary movies were such high grossing blockbusters that they made billions. Funny, you would think the greed heads in Hollywood would have somehow caught on to that and made a ton of documentaries that they could all retire on. That never happened. I wonder why?
March 9th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
MistabrOwn lives in some incredibly weird fantasy world where up is down and down is up. So, in conclusion, the highest standards some how emanate from a quitter, a guy who retired but was coaxed back out by his team is a somehow not worthy, the best draft expert who called Russell the “best QB Propsect I have ever seen” doesn’t know what he is talking about, and documentary film makers are the real Hollywood moguls. And this has been in the last 30 minutes. This is incredible! I mean, you cannot make this stuff up!
March 9th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
+ I am debo. Whoever debo is.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
Global warming is over your head, MB
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Simple addition and subtraction is over that morons head.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
+ I am debo. Whoever debo is.
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Lol! And I’m you. And Oakglenn.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Al Gore has made billions of this global warming hoax
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Al Gore has made billions off this global warming hoax. You mean he made billions on the documentary movie about global warming, is that what you mean? I didn’t know documentary movies were such high grossing blockbusters that they made billions. Funny, you would think the greed heads in Hollywood would have somehow caught on to that and made a ton of documentaries that they could all retire on. That never happened. I wonder why?
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No, more like he made millions off influencing legislation and appropriations of our tax money and some of the massive corporations that NEED some kind of regulation and over site with integrity and teeth.
Thats the difference betix Reps and Dems.
Both crooked, but at least the Dems threw their constichee-ents a bone and robbed us in the name of a good cause.
The Reps want you to suffer for not being as smart as they are.
“Too stupid to be rich.” I believe is the rally cry of the Neo Con (CON being the operative.)
Isolated in a bubble of wretched excess they actually start to buy their own crap as if some how nicer material good make them better people.
The “prime movers” and “second handers” or “morlocks” and “eloys”.
Its easier to be ruth less.
It takes a real man to be just.
Seems to me they can’t even figure out compassion.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
RANTY!
March 9th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
The reason the Bills signed Green “away” from us.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/archive/1243680?tag=pageRow;pageContainer
“The Bills’ offensive line situation went from bad to worse with the surprise retirement of Brad Butler last week, and new coach Chan Gailey acknowledged the line is, “something we’ll have to address in either free agency or the draft or both.”
March 9th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
I would like us to draft offensive linemen in the first two rounds.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1243680
Is Bulaga a reach at 8? He’s projected mid round but
Tackles are a premium.
Needs work on protection but Iowa runs a ZBS.
Maybe bump Henderson over to the right side? Or Bulaga to right and give him a half season or so to adjust?
Meh, hope we get T. Williams.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Kirk Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
I would like us to draft offensive linemen in the first two rounds.
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With the 8th Trent Williams.
With the 39th Mike Iupati.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
#669 is a great post but I’d like to add that I don’t think he thought we would play quite that bad. He still will try to get the young guy’s going but he wants to win this division. If Cable starts Gards and they don’t win, well I think you know what to expect then don’t you?.
DHB and Russell struggled in ways I don’t think anyone thought they would. You can add DMC o that equation. This year he is asking DMC to eaither make it or prepare to go elsewhere. HB’s shouldn’t struggle the way he has, it is one of the more adaptable positions in the pro game you’re progame game should at least translate somehwhere near college game and his is nowhere near what he did in college. Primarily because of the way the played that wildhog no one could key on him with Jones and the FB.
But I will give the two turf toe injuries a lt of credit in that it took away from his lateral movement. But he’s 2 years removed he has to show that he can read a defense and cut off the movement with decisiveness and vision.
Russell’s problems IMO are finally in the light if he needs rehab get it if not get ready to play your game. At the level that allows your true talent to be on display. No more immature approach to the game, make it a priority in your life.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
I just want one of either of 3 OT’s Davis, Williams or Bulaga I really don’t think you can go wrong with one of thse 3. I feel about them the way I felt about the LB’s from USC last year just better they’re all top tier OT’s. Preference Bulaga or Williams but I’ll take Davis in a heart beat.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
Nnamdi21, why do you say Bulaga needs work on protection?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Wassup Priesttj
do u think Ellis hindered Shaughnessy development or helped it? Do you think having veteran players is bad for a team or good ?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
MB, Al Gore isn’t the only person on the planet who believes in global warming. And as far as people making money off of it, I’m more concerned about those making money off of causing it than those making money stopping it.
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A to the men on that one.
All these multi national corps moved their factories to commie China where there officials are bribed and epa laws aren’t sh-ite now the bastards are polluting the world to death and people to ignorant to at least look it up aid them.
“I know everyting already! Facts just confuse the issue!”
Irrational = mental illness.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
priesttj Says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
Nnamdi21, why do you say Bulaga needs work on protection?
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Tends to lunge against inside moves, lacks great recovery speed and can be beaten by secondary rush. Slow to recoil once extended. Hesitates when defenders let up. Gets bull rushed into the pocket by strong ends because he allows their hands into his chest, but typically anchors before reaching the quarterback. Must improve his arm-bar to keep rusher out of the pocket. Inconsistent quickness after the first step in his kick slide makes him susceptible to giving up the edge to quicker pass rushers.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
Priest says about DMC:
“But he’s 2 years removed he has to show that he can read a defense and cut off the movement with decisiveness and vision.”
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That was never his strong suit.
At least with Fargas on the team you could point to some one else at back with worse field vision and unable to slip blocks.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
Jones signs a 2 yr deal with KC.
Waters is a legit pro bowl guard and if they go O line 1st round they may kick B. Albert inside where he belongs.
Could have a run game again.
First time since all their old pro bowl guys like Roaf and Shields finally retired.
Better hope our O catches fire and puts up TDs.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
Do you think having veteran players is good or bad for a team?That wasn’t the discussion 4eve.The subject was should old vets be brought in to take the place of the young players we have.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
Nnamdi-that is what is so funny about this site.Our offense was terrible.We lead the league,I believe,in 3 and outs.We were either the lowest or 2nd lowest scoring team in the entire NFL,yet all most on here ever talk about is improving the Def.If we don’t get to where we can put points on the board,we will never improve.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
Nnamdi21,
that reads like a experienced scouting report. But I would counter that he is very square has a great base and has a great punch. I’ve watched his film vs Morgan and he was exquisite. He steers very well and as i said stays square which allows him to respond to counter moves. Most who speak t his weaknesses use the Mich game vs Graham which is fair but his worse game. Plus Graham made a lot of LT’s look bad. I actually think he strenth is his pass blocking. If you watch him at the combine it was textbook.
Now one of his drawbacks is his reach which if he plays a guy who gets off on him he might lunge a bit but he is so technically sound he often recovers. Bulaga is as polished a LT as there is in this draft…………period
March 9th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
We don’t have a system, we don’t have the trenches built. Nor is our GM, or whatever you want to call him, person in charge of staff and personnel, doing anything about those two things. That means we can sign every receiver, running back, QB, defensive back, kick returner and punt returner on the pro bowl roster, and it’s still 5-11. And when you consider that our skills players aren’t even that good…
March 9th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
As far as Ellis and Matt, it was obviously a help and it got him up to speed a lot faster but this kid is talented. That a lot of what he learned he’ll nevver forget. He is pobably the best player on defense that we’ve drafted since Nnamdi. That’s what I think of him. When I saw him at Wisconsin you could see he was playng about 50% and tehy still couldn’t block him. Now he didn’t show his speed or qickness due to the injury but you could tell it was there.
Ellis might still be able to help him vs certain players but he’ll be fine trust me. He plays with such great leverage and balance it reminds me of Charles Haley. He is really good.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
Lefty12
my question to you was simple but you never answered, you said u don’t want old veterans that hinders and take young player spot, I pointed out Ellis presence and how he played young guys, u need the two old n young to become a good team. Mawae can teach a young OL, Mason can teach young wrs, just like Ellis helped Shaughnessy unless u think bringing Ellis was a bad idea
March 9th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
4eve,
I think what Lefty12 is saying is if you know you have a guy that needs the reps to get better and you’ve pretty much designated him as your guy then getting him up to speed as quick as possible is more advantageous. Not saying yopur way is wrong it’s a matter of personal opinion and should probabaly be used on a case by case basis. Rather than some hard and fast rule.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
I believe the transition from college to the NFL takes time, young players need to be eased to the speed of the game, they need veterans who can show them how it’s done from watching the film to game preparation. Ellis helped Shaughnessy, if AL signs some key veterans like Mawae, Mason can help this team. Lilja can add depth to our RG position or Chester Pitts can also add depth to our guard position.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:54 pm
Mawae is 40 years old(almost).Why have someone like him take up a roster spot-to teach?Isn’t that what the coaches are paid to do?We have 5 young WRs.Do you actually think someone like Mason would want to come to a young,rebuilding team to sit and teach?As for Ellis,he was a nice addition last year,but not many older players are ‘team’ guys like Ellis and that was one of the reasons he was brought in-to show the young guys how to be pros.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:00 am
If we had a little more experienced team,bring in a Vet. FA to fill a spot is good,but we are trying to build a young team that will be competitive for many years not just a year or two.I can see where you are coming from with Mawae though,but it isn’t like Satale is a raw rookie.He played for a Parcells team-he knows what he has to do.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:00 am
4eve,
they probably could but in some of those areas we already have vets to lead. I would’ve loved to have had a vet WR last year an a vet QB someone Russell would listen to but the guy couldn’t sit still long enough. We suffered as a result. But this year is very different those young WR’s are a year older. While Russell still could use the help it needs to be someone he relates to. Garcia blew it.
The kid went through a vey trying experience and now he’s from all accts. trying to right his ways. So lesson learned. We HOPE!! I think his career will take off from here and whoever wants to beat him out is going to have to bring their A-game. Trust me.
March 10th, 2010 at 6:22 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,DAMN,FINALY GOT LOGGED ON,THOUGHT I WAS GOING 2 HAVE 2 LOCK THE DOORS AND GO BACK 2 BED..
March 10th, 2010 at 6:40 am
I had to check out Bruce Campbell.
PLEASE don’t draft him! In all of his highlights he has HORRIBLE pad level and just uses his upper body to wedge MUCH inferior and smaller players to the turf.
Would be a HUGE mistake.
March 10th, 2010 at 6:40 am
Morning Nation
March 10th, 2010 at 6:54 am
Good morning all.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:05 am
bydavidwhite Guys, that line in the CCTimes about JaMarcus in rehab for “lethargy addiction. Umm, it was a joke.
about 18 hours ago via mobile web
bydavidwhite Local tv reported it as fact. It was a funny in Gary Peterson’s column. Funny, but just a funny.
about 17 hours ago via mobile web
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Vegas,
What do you think of these tweets by David White?
March 10th, 2010 at 7:14 am
It was an unbearable night without you guys.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:16 am
Are we still waiting on Warren to be cut?
Has Morrison been brought in by anyone for a visit?
March 10th, 2010 at 7:19 am
I think its hilarious that Bob and Vegas ran with that. I read the article, and maybe its just in line with my sarcasm, but I in no way shape or form took that line to me Jamarcus was in rehab.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:21 am
bc,..most others did. lol
March 10th, 2010 at 7:23 am
Glad to see you made it Bob.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:23 am
By the way, RIP Corey Haim,…troubled dude,..got to meet him when he was in Santa Cruz filming The Lost Boys, I lived there most the 80`s…seems like yesterday, but it was about 25 years ago…hard to imagine,…the Hollywod machine ate him up and spit him out….bummer.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:28 am
Ok, grab Ben Tate in the 4th or 5th
AND
RMR- You never gave me your email address so that when JR is the starter for the 1st game of the 2010 season I can mail you your $100. If you don’t want to list it here, email it to hattorihanzodude at yahoo dot com
AND
For all of you Global Warming nuts- I suppose you were believers of the Global Cooling scare back in the 70’s as well. Some people look for reasons to b i t c h and m o a n even when there really isn’t one
March 10th, 2010 at 7:28 am
There were sure alot of dudes in here yesterday all up in arms due to no free agent signings yet,…for me I cant see one on the list I would want,..I did want Mawae for a minute, now dont,..hes almost 40, wont play 3 games,…so getting rid of dead weight and hoping for good draft is a good plan. Print that.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:31 am
Usually the losers believing in global warming have some interest in it, like selling some green jobs theory, or whatever,…but theres no global warming,…never will be either, if theres a dramatic climate change, it certainly wont be due to man,..lol…too funny,…man has always overestimated his importance in this world,..actually thinking her can change the climate. lol
March 10th, 2010 at 7:32 am
Yeah tj Garcia blew it. What color is the sky in your world ?
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priesttj Says:
March 10th, 2010 at 12:00 am
. While Russell still could use the help it needs to be someone he relates to. Garcia blew it.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:32 am
Jamal Williams?
March 10th, 2010 at 7:33 am
Mankind has done a great job of polluting the world,..but has that changed the climate?…of course not. RIP Corey.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:34 am
Bo,..I wanted him for about 3 days, until I listened to some friends in SD,…dude really fell off,…was almost worthless,…if he was even decent, SD would have kept him. Word.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:36 am
Trent Williams tore it up at his pro day yesterday.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:36 am
Russell is taking us to the playoffs, ya dig?…and yours truly will see it all unfold from row 1,…the contest is still on, anyone who wins the contest of what Bob should wear, to compete with Darth just a few seats down,..wins a game of his or her choice, (lol, as if theres girls here), in row 1,..but not Indy, Iv sold all 4…keepin it real.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:37 am
I believe your friends are incorrect. Corey Who?
March 10th, 2010 at 7:37 am
Green jobs is another hoax. Hey lets go install solar panels!!
March 10th, 2010 at 7:37 am
I think Oakland should trade the 8th pick and a 3rd,..to Rams,..get a boy named Suh…hey now.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:38 am
Coey Haim Bo,…hey look the truth is, AJ isnt an idiot,…he knew Jamal lost it,..word.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:40 am
Bob…
Vampires seem to be the in thing right now.All you’d need is a cape and fake teeth…….or even silver face paint with black paint fangs.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:41 am
Huff and our first for the Rams pick.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:42 am
Trent Williams did well at his pro day….but someone posted that the only team that didn’t show up to watch were the Raiders…..wtf?
I’ll bet we show up at the Maryland pro day though.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:43 am
http://www.stopanimalcrueltynow.org Come on heads, human beings dont deserve our help…check out the website, lend a hand, to a paw. Peace.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:44 am
Neil, nice input, but no, too overdid,..I need something that people would say,..omg, thats awesome!!
March 10th, 2010 at 7:46 am
Poodles and Corey Haim are for wusses. Global warming is fo shizzle. Just keepin it real. Word. Hey now.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:47 am
Good Morning Nation!
March 10th, 2010 at 7:48 am
Gardkowski on Cable:
Coach Cable is more of a overseer. A discipline guy. He’s a player’s type coach. The players want to play for a coach like coach Cable. He’s easy to communicate with and he wants the best for his players. So you like playing for a coach like that.
http://www.sbreport.net/raider_news/008/3064.html
March 10th, 2010 at 7:49 am
I’ll have another think tonight while I’m on nightshift Bob.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:49 am
Bo,..I admire the little Polock,..but, well,..money talks…I dont think he will be given a fair shot,..I may be wrong,..I am usually never worng, but at times I have been,…we will see. Hey now.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:51 am
Becht stayin in AZ
March 10th, 2010 at 7:51 am
The Raiders didn’t want to show their hand by showing up at the OU pro day.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:53 am
Time for me to go.
Have a great Wednesday everyone.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:54 am
Global Warming!
There is no such thing! Hey Now!
Word!
March 10th, 2010 at 7:54 am
I would make the trade with the Rams,…because the following teams also want Suh, like the Bucs, and I bet the Rams would love to pick 8th,..lot less cash.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:57 am
David White on OT issues:
So now what do the Raiders do?
The obvious thought is they’ll draft an offensive tackle in the draft, something they haven’t done in the first round since Robert Gallery in 2004. Of course, if they wanted a stud tackle to build with, last year’s class was much stronger (Michael Oher, anyone?) and they didn’t draft an offensive lineman in any round, period.
Don’t be surprised if the Raiders go as-is with Erik Pears and Khalif Barnes, with the possible addition of a second- or third-tier veteran free agent in Green’s mold.
Here’s an even more intriguing possibility: why not move Henderson to right tackle and shift Robert Gallery back to left tackle? Everyone will say “because of the 2006 season” but that was different.
Gallery was ruined by the Art Shell-Jackie Slater disaster, and had played pretty good until then. That coaching staff didn’t give him a chance and left his confidence shot.
Gallery has been very good at left guard. Don’t think for a second he wouldn’t mind another crack at left tackle to show everyone he wasn’t a bust as advertised.
Just a thought.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:58 am
Bruce GarbageKowski is not the answer.
You People….
March 10th, 2010 at 7:59 am
Yep, Cable is a great head coach….hence his 20-54 record…because that is all his players’ fault…the head coach has nothing to do with wins and losses….right?
lmao
March 10th, 2010 at 8:02 am
So far the best things Cable has done is break the snitches jaw, and slap around his ex old lady,..clearly both deserved it. Print that.
March 10th, 2010 at 8:03 am
I always imagined the other Corey kicking the bucket first…
March 10th, 2010 at 8:07 am
Al Davis’ mother is still alive and living in Georgia!:
Woman, 130, Wants Age-Old Guinness Record
3:44pm UK, Wednesday March 10, 2010
Lulu Sinclair, Sky News Online
A woman from Georgia is staking a claim to be the oldest person in the world.
Antisa Khvichava still plays backgammon and drinks vodka
Officials say Antisa Khvichava, who lives in a remote mountain village, will be 130 on July 8.
The Georgian authorities have petitioned the Guinness Book of Records to include her as the oldest person.
“Antisa Khvichava was born in the 19th century, and she is amazing,” said Giorgi Vashadze, head of Georgia’s Civil Registry Agency.
“We have the necessary documents to prove it.”
The authorities have Ms Khvichava’s Soviet-era passport registration, which shows her date of birth, and her pension book issued in the 1960s.
Although she was born in 1880, the pensioner only retired in 1965.
She was shown on TV two days ago – on International Women’s Day – being congratulated by her children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren, and enjoying a glass of wine.
The matriarch, a resident of the Tsalenjikhi region, remains in good health, according to reports, and still plays backgammon and drinks vodka.
If Mrs Khvichava is accepted for the Guinness Book of Records, she will take the title from a 114-year-old who lives in Japan.
March 10th, 2010 at 8:07 am
You imagine when child actors will croak?
March 10th, 2010 at 8:09 am
I think the more of the losers in here that post that they hope Al dies soon, I think thats whats keeping him alive. Print that.
March 10th, 2010 at 8:11 am
Cable is an idiot!
March 10th, 2010 at 8:11 am
Jhill,
I got duped by the media, and let my own feelings skew my beliefs. Egg all over my face.
I still stand behind my stories, however, WAY jumped the gun on this one.
March 10th, 2010 at 8:12 am
Yep, Haley Joel Osment will be seeing dead people within 10 years….
lol
just kidding!
March 10th, 2010 at 8:12 am
jhill Says:
March 10th, 2010 at 7:51 am
The Raiders didn’t want to show their hand by showing up at the OU pro day.
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So your saying the other 31 teams “tipped” off their hand when they attended?
March 10th, 2010 at 8:13 am
I wish old Al would overpay for LT,..and promise him starting job…why would he go to Minn to backup Yo Adrien? LT is a atarter man! Word.
March 10th, 2010 at 8:14 am
Cable is da man.
March 10th, 2010 at 8:14 am
Alright, Raiders fans… it’s time for me to make a 14 hour drive. Everyone have a great Wednesday! DRAFT FOR THE TRENCHES!
March 10th, 2010 at 8:15 am
The Riaders have no need of attending a pro day…Herrera is checking youtube highlights as we speak!
March 10th, 2010 at 8:15 am
I actually wanted Cable gone until he broke Randys jaw, and when I heard he slapped around that pig ex of his, I wanted him to get contract extension. Print that.
March 10th, 2010 at 8:15 am
Where ya goin Steve?
March 10th, 2010 at 8:16 am
Look at my boy Bruce, talking up his coach, being present for the media, acting like the starting QB.
I love you man!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 10th, 2010 at 8:17 am
14 hour drive? Where are you going….Cape Horn?
March 10th, 2010 at 8:17 am
After the Mike Mitchell pick, when it appeared the only video was in fact his youtube cutup, sadly Dakota might be speaking some truth.
March 10th, 2010 at 8:18 am
Get your jersey yet Vegas?
March 10th, 2010 at 8:20 am
My last 5 jerseys are Jamarcus, Moss, Sapp, C-Wood (the only good one) and Jeff George.
I don’t want to hex my boys MCL’s just yet, so I backed off. I have it saved on my nflshop “cart” though, a white 50th anniversary #5 with Bruce on the back.
All in due time.
March 10th, 2010 at 8:20 am
Vegas,
We know bro!
We know.
March 10th, 2010 at 8:21 am
Anthony Becht re-signed with the Cardinals…Al is now moving on to his next free agent target…Kurt Warner.
March 10th, 2010 at 8:21 am
I’m going to Fayetteville, N.C. for a 19 year old chick that I met when she and I both lived in Pacifica last year. If you can’t find a good woman, raise one.
Alright, time to hit the road. Best to all y’all, fellas… except for TJ… screw that retarded pathological liar.
March 10th, 2010 at 8:22 am
You still stand by your friend the tattoo artist’s stories? Who just met him last May?
The last update we got from your source was that there was no way Russell would should up to camp in shape. Right after that, we get confirmation that he actually is in Az working out with some trainer. Not only that, the Raiders have an employee rolling with him full time.
Any new updates?
March 10th, 2010 at 8:25 am
Oh, and to clarify the 14 hour part… it’s 7 there and 7 back. Picking her up to bring her here to stay with me for a few days. She even offered to pay half on gas. I extended the chivalrous offer to pay it all, but she insisted, so I’ll take it. I think it’s so that she won’t feel “obligated,” thereby making any naughtiness totally legit and without a sense of any outside factors influencing actions. Either that or she’s just awesome, as well as a hottie. Doubtful, though… attractive women just aren’t thoughtful… unless they’re trying to get something…
March 10th, 2010 at 8:28 am
MM will be a solid S in the NFL. Word!
March 10th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Okay, this time I really mean it: I need to get on the road now to get there when I want to. See y’all later.
Talk amongst yourselves while I’m gone. I’ll give you a topic: DHB could get to almost double-digits in receptions this year and DMC could limit his number of fumbles to LESS than double-digits this year if the NFL lifts its ban on stick’em. Discuss.
March 25th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
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