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Updated: Quiet at Cal Pro Day

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, March 10th, 2010 at 11:53 am in Oakland Raiders.

Beat writer Steve Corkran reports the Raiders are represented by a single scout and none of the coaches at Cal’s Pro Day at Memorial Stadium.

Cal running back Jahvid Best will not run at the Pro Day, letting his 4.35 time in the 40-yard dash at the NFL scouting combine stand.

Best’s time was the fastest among all running backs, ahead of the 4.37 by C.J. Spiller.

For what it’s worth, and given the inexact science of NFL 40 times, Best’s time a fraction behind the 4.33 time by Darren McFadden at the 2008 combine.

At least year’s Cal Pro Day, coach Tom Cable and much of his staff were at Memorial Stadium, watching closely, in particular Cal center Alex Mack.

Mack was drafted by the Cleveland Browns in the first round and was a rookie starter.

UPDATE:

Speaking with reporters, Best said he talked with Raiders assistants Kelly Skipper (running backs) and Jim Michalczik (offensive line) at the combine and believes his 40 time met with their approval.

“They did interview me,” Best said. “I think I showed them Raiders speed.”

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644 Responses to “Updated: Quiet at Cal Pro Day”

  1. SD_Raider_619 Says:

    primero n who cares!!!!!

  2. DMAC Says:

    So we’re not drafting Best???

  3. Seymour Bush Says:

    No, we just snagged the offensive line coach from Cal. I’ll bet he knows what is going on over there. No need to attend.

  4. Richochet Says:

    Oakglen?

    Tell us about your band?

    awww…c’mon, pumpkin…everyone wants to know how you bought a house at 19…oh…how did you say you got the money?
    OH YEAH…YOU HAD A SUPERSTAR ROCK BAND.

    Love to hear about it :mrgreen:

  5. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Richochet says:

    You know…LAST YEAR you ran the “The prior year was JR’s actual first year..LET’S SEE HOW HE DOES THIS YEAR, then we’ll know”

    And now? lol..you’re running the same take as last year..that after THIS YEAR you’ll know.

    This is year FOUR.

    At some point reality sets in.

    *************************************

    Yeah well, could definitely be true. I definitely could be drinking too much Koolaid and I have no problem admitting that.

    But personally, I’ve always really believed in that “3 year rule”. Not literally of course, but, the point being that some players take longer to develop.

    Russell’s been in the league for 3 years but on the field for about 2.

    Could be that it’s a lost cause for sure.

    I’m just not ready to give up yet.

    I’m not handing him the starting job by any means. I just don’t see the harm in keeping him around if he shows some sincere effort this offseason.

    Let’s be real. After the 2008 season, he didn’t receive the amount of utter ridicule that he received this year because everyone (including me) gave him a pass for basically having the “rookie” blues.

    If he’s any kind of man, he’s gonna respond to that criticism by putting out an effort.

    If he doesn’t. . . .like I said – cut the ties with him then.

  6. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Time for lunch.

  7. Richochet Says:

    Am I good, or what?

    Lil Beeech..stares at the computer…alllll dayyy long…waiting for Kelli.

    Oakglen/Seymoron does the same…waiting for me…and within MINUTES OF POSTING…THERE IS BEEECH…REQUESTING ATTENTION FROM KELLI….and yes, LMAO..there is Oakglen…posting DIRECTLY TO ME, FIRST…almost pleading for me to kick him in the ass.

    Touching…actually. :)

  8. Seymour Bush Says:

    Actually wack job you are here all day every day. Whenever ANYONE posts it’s within five minutes of you. Nice to gloss yourself tho. It’s part of the self aggrandizing troll mentality.

    Wacky you don’t work and are unemployable aren’t you?

  9. Seymour Bush Says:

    You don’t have a job or a career other than internet troll do you wacky?

  10. vegas raider Says:

    Quick tangent here:

    I am watching the Nebraska-Miami ‘84 Orange Bowl and was shocked to see they let kickers kick FG’s off a little stand. When did they stop doing that?

  11. Dakota Says:

    Four, three, Two…Kobe puts up a fall-away 17 footer……its gooooooood!

    Okay, the Universe is back in order.

  12. SD_Raider_619 Says:

    Antonio Bryant just signed with the Bengals!1

  13. vegas raider Says:

    RaiderDebo Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 11:54 am

    Not well said. No way he gets cut even if he’s not “awesome” Put yourself in Davis’ shoes. No matter what happens, JR walks with $40 million. $40 million!!!!

    ****************************

    First off, I said that’s what I would do, not what Davis would do. I wouldn’t be suprised with anything Al does these days. He may not even ask him to restructure, and than order him not to play. Who knows?

    Second, like you said he gets $40 million no matter what. So if that’s the case, why not view the situation with a forward looking viewpoint instead of rearview one? That money is gone, the better question should be, what will we get in 2010 for $9 million.

    Besides, Al didn’t seem to concerned about giving Walker all that dough and cutting him.

    This is a make or break year for Russell, IMO. And if Al asks him to restructure, which will give him a smaller salary but more guaranteed money, I am sure his agent will tell him to do it.

  14. bcz24 Says:

    Javon Walker = $930,000.00 per catch. BEST.SCREWJOB.EVER.

  15. SD_Raider_619 Says:

    Not to defend Javon Walker but come on Al and Cable you are makin this mofo so much money and dont let him play WTF. I dont know how many times last season i was so pissed cause he would not hit the field after report he looked good in training camp and him sayin i feel good. F-ing davis and cable

  16. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Does anyone know where I can get an offical Russel jersey? I want it to have real game time stains on it. You know the usual ketchup and mustard stains that you get on that sweet silver and white sitting on the freakin bench!!!! That motha fu!!!!………..See this is why I had to stay away from my team for medical reasons. This team makes me crazy.

  17. Dakota Says:

    I guess we can’t claim roster spots on the Raiders are precious anymore after the Raiders wasted two of them for the entire year last season with Walker and N. Miller.

  18. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Raider 619.

    You are 100% right. How could Walker play anymore crappy than DHB? Plus, you are paying Walker all that cash it just made no sense. How did Walker have Al by the b@lls like that? Was Walker partying with one of Als family members when he got eat down out in Vegas? It just does not make sense why you would carry a guy like Walker for nothing. It was like Al treated the whole situation like Walker hit the number playing lottery than actually working on the field. Freakin crazy!!!!!!!!!!!

  19. bcz24 Says:

    Im outta here for the day. Later Nation!

  20. SD_Raider_619 Says:

    Are they Oakland Davis going to do anything to fix this team?? Very dissapointed, when free agency started i was pump because it was uncapped year and figure Senile A$$ Davis wants another SB he will go out there and spend the cash, but it doesnt seem that way at all. The past 7 years have been hell for me been a true Raider fan specially in daygo

  21. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Larry Johnson coming to the Raiders laugh my @$$ off!!!! Why not give him #34 while you are at it. We keep getting washed out plan b scrub after plan b scrub. Why don’t we call up Eddie George and see if he wants a shot back at the game as well……….Eddie may just be better than DMAC today!!!! LMAO!!!!!!

  22. RaiderDebo Says:

    This is a make or break year for Russell, IMO. And if Al asks him to restructure, which will give him a smaller salary but more guaranteed money, I am sure his agent will tell him to do it.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    That’s no big deal. I interpreted restructure for take a pay cut. Thanks for the clatification. Pretty sure he’d restructure if asked. Don’t understand the big deal either way though.

  23. The Judge Says:

    wow, I killed the last 2 posts

    ok, Ben Tate in the 4th or 5th

    Here’s a rundown.

    40-yard dash: 4.43 seconds – third place behind Cal’s Jahvid Best (4.35) and Clemson’s C.J. Spiller (4.37).

    Bench press: 26 repetitions – tied for first place with Fresno State’s Lonyae Miller.

    Vertical leap: 40.5” – second place behind Tennessee’s Monterio Hardesty (41.0”).

    Broad jump: 10’4” – tied for first place with Hardesty.

    3-cone drill: 6.91 seconds – sixth place behind Best (6.75), Wayne State’s Joique Bell (6.84), Oregon’s LeGarrette Blount (6.85), Hardesty (6.87) and Buffalo’s James Starks (6.89).

    20-yard shuttle: 4.12 seconds – second place behind Ole Miss’ Dexter McCluster (4.06).

    and

    Man, I miss Pleasanton and the whole Tri-Valley area, it has been 23 years. I hear it is a whole new world now

  24. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    The fans need to create a “make or break” year for Al Davis.

  25. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    619 you have to be strong man. We are all in this crap hole together. The sad part is I can’t blame Al for all of the mess just 70% of it. : )

    I mean lets be honest. If someone told you 5 years ago you could have Russel, DMAC, and Michael Bush on your team to improve your offense. I think 90% of the fans would have said I will take those guys. I mean, all three were Heisman candidates at one time. I thought Hall was going to be a good free agent opposite Nnamdi. Man was I wrong.

    Now Walker always sound to me like a dumb @$$ move. At $75 mill. Yeah, Al was ready to check out on that deal.

  26. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Not me, CJ! Don’t put words into our mouths. Now I know Richochet’s going to bring up my support of Russell early on last year but you can also look back to ‘07 and see that I clearly wanted Calvin Johnson or Adrian Peterson. I wanted either Dorsey or Ellis over McFadden. Don’t sit here and act like everyone was as naive as you were.

  27. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    And, we are strong, CJ legend. Why would we be weak for wanting Al Davis gone? Explain to me how the support of Al Davis equates to “strenghth” in any way, and vice versa.

  28. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Dakota Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
    Four, three, Two…Kobe puts up a fall-away 17 footer……its gooooooood!

    Okay, the Universe is back in order.

    —-
    Fcuk Kobe. Lakers too.

  29. SD_Raider_619 Says:

    Al is really going nuts because he is all about the past and he easily forgot that he had a strong O-Line through those glory days. So bout having dmac bush rusell etc, i would always ask how is the O-line and Al can take all the blame on this one, damn it. I bleed silver and black por vida. Now i refuse to go to home game and give Al more money cause that pendejo doesnt know how to spend it jajajajaja.

  30. DMAC Says:

    Who would you hate more in a silver and black uni….
    LT or Merriroids????????????

  31. Dakota Says:

    What round do people think Colt McCoy will be drafted in?

  32. DMAC Says:

    McNabb traded to SF.
    http://nfbcsteams.webs.com/ESPN.htm

  33. RaiderResurrection Says:

    Probably Merriroids

  34. Raiders4eve Says:

    I don’t understand why AL wants Larry Johnson, the guy is another Javon Walker alike player, basically a washed up RB, I would rather take Willie Parker instead of him. If AL wanted a RB, he had a chance to get Thomas Jones instead of facing him twice now. It seems AL doesn’t trust DMAC and Bush, also if we draft or sign another QB, it will mean Russell will get cut. Everyone keeps saying that if AL cuts Russel it will mean he failed as a talent evaluator, AL knows a lost cause when he sees it, I think AL will wait and see what Russel does this offseason and in training camp, if he sucks again, he is gone.

  35. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    The NBA is a joke now. This current Laker team doesn’t even beat the ‘02 Kings or Mavs, let alone the ‘02 Lakers. If there was some way to do a realistic simulation, current Lakers vs. ‘02 Kings, ‘02 Kings would would sweep them in a best of 7, and win all 4 games by ten or more.

  36. DMAC Says:

    Is that link fake or what??
    (post 32)

  37. Dakota Says:

    McNabb to SF? lol cool

  38. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    What an eager 49er fan, and a dork. Nice work, though. It looked real.

  39. Dakota Says:

    Man, that was a fake? I need to learn how to do that…I could mess with this blog non-stop!

  40. Ghost to the Post Says:

    I don’t necessarily think Al wants Larry Johnson. We didn’t sign Becht.

  41. JB Says:

    # DMAC Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    McNabb traded to SF.
    http://nfbcsteams.webs.com/ESPN.htm
    *******************

    WTF – I was hoping he’d be coming here for a couple of years, mentoring JaBustus. Al was asleep at the switch on this one.

  42. DMAC Says:

    The fk’n link looked real as fk.
    (that was a good one)

  43. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Senecca Wallace going to the Browns and Delhomme heading in for a visit. Doesn’t sound good for Brady Quinn. And he has a work ethic. I wish we were at least rumoring to be looking for another QB. Maybe Jamarcus might start working out a little.

  44. RaiderResurrection Says:

    If it doesn’t straight up say http://www.espn.com or espn.go.com it aint’ real!

  45. Norco Bob Says:

    I would take McNabb in Oakland, but it looks like the little Polock will have the job, only because Russell doesnt want to compete for it,…hes never had to earn a job before, so he doesnt know how to. Print that.

  46. Dakota Says:

    Ghost to the Post,

    Do you think we cold convince Russell, Quinn and a European doctor to transplant Quinn’s heart and head into Russell’s body?

    With Quinn’s work ethic and Russell’s body he would be great.

    Russell could still keep his money and he would look better at the beach (after major tanning of course)…

    win win

  47. Norco Bob Says:

    Anyone joining me for A`s opener vs M`s?…I hope Sheets starts,..he should barring inury. Hey now. A lot tailgate,..dogs n beers and grass.

  48. Norco Bob Says:

    Dakota…Russells body?…thats his main prob, his body, its gross,..fat,..out of shape,…Quinn is actually the one with the ripped body, in shape,..you have it backwatds dude,..as usual. Print that.

  49. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Not only print it but, let’s be honest since he was in Jr. High he has been given everything as an athelete, they have catered to him and they have coddled him and now he doesn’t even understand how to do anything for himself. He is completely lost.

  50. DMAC Says:

    I’ll be there Bob. wassup?

  51. Norco Bob Says:

    F it,..I will take T.O.,…why not, he would be our best wr. Hey now.

  52. DMAC Says:

    Keith Bullock??
    too old?? injuries??
    What do you guys think??

  53. Dakota Says:

    Quinn would whip Russell’s body into shape and then start throwing bombs down the field. Russell’s problem isn’t his body, it is his weak lazy ass mind and lack of heart that allows his talent filled body to go into disrepair.

    Sad….

  54. DMAC Says:

    I rather sign FB Brad Hoover than LJ.

  55. Norco Bob Says:

    Ya, I would like to say its not his fault,..him being given every job hes had,…but whatever it is, he doesnt know how to compete, to earn the job,..hasnt a clue how to,…its looking more and more like the little Polock will be starter in 2010,…so be it.

  56. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Dakota lets be honest we could save the money on the Dr. and Sign young Quinn to a much less expensive offer and scrap the Russell project and move on. And I’m not saying Quinn is better but, I know between him and Gradikowski they have more drive and heart than Jamarcus well ever have.

  57. Norco Bob Says:

    Dakota,..his body is his problem,..hes fat, slow, out of shape…why would you want anyones great heart and passion in that mess?

  58. Dakota Says:

    Hoover would be great….instead we will hold onto Lawton, who isn’t worth a schyt even on PEDs.

  59. Ghost to the Post Says:

    by the way Dakota. Jinx you owe me a coke.

  60. DMAC Says:

    Lawton???
    C’mon, give me a fk’n break Al!!!!!!!

  61. Dakota Says:

    Norco, let it go, you will simply never understand…

  62. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Will Hoover pass a physical?

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  64. Norco Bob Says:

    I understand Dakota that you want someones heart and passion in Russells body,..however I think youve never taken a look at his body, or you wouldnt have said that.

  65. DMAC Says:

    Yes, I think so. Got cut by Panthers, because they’re loaded w/ RB’s.

  66. Dakota Says:

    Hoover missed five games last year but ended the season healthy according to this report:

    http://www.the-dispatch.com/article/20100310/COLUMNISTS/3104009/1044/SPORTS?p=2&tc=pg

    Looks like the Panthers draft a FB a couple of years back and it is now his turn.

  67. Ghost to the Post Says:

    But, were they loaded with full backs? As we all know after asking Bush to play full back it’s a highly specialized position.

  68. Ghost to the Post Says:

    I’m sorry I couldn’t resist.

  69. Dakota Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
    I understand Dakota that you want someones heart and passion in Russells body,..however I think youve never taken a look at his body, or you wouldnt have said that.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Norco, I have seen Russell’s body, here is a picture:

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qMABJs3fRaQ/RscI-seknZI/AAAAAAAAAWk/Kz7VwnPBMLc/s320/Big+Fat+Guy.jpg

    It would be tough for Brady Quinn to get it in shape, but Brady is a pretty focused guy…slim fast and pushups will go a long way lol.

  70. DMAC Says:

    Later Nation

  71. Raider guy Says:

    Hey. I continue to watch the Raiders from last year and recognize that we are better than our record. It is hard to sift through the JRuss garbage, and it is garbage (It is so apparent that the guy is just trying to wing it out there with the ball and his general play). But the d has some real bright spots. I was pretty impressed by Warren and Routt in looking back. Routt got burned but I am thinking the franchise thing is a bet on what he is going to be, the film I watched last night hints that he is close. And Warren, the guy was pretty disruptive. The linebacker play needs to improve. As does the coahing. The thing needs to be tighter. But there was some good stuff not looking through the glasses of dissappointment that I look through as the year progresses.

  72. Raider guy Says:

    And shuagnasy, good against the run and pass.

  73. Raider guy Says:

    And branch should have made the pro bowl, seriously.

  74. Norco Bob Says:

    Well I dont click on links here Dakota…but I know how each of those guys look,..Quinn looks ripped, Russell looks like a fat slob, but for some reason Russells body is the one you like,..thats your bag I guess.

  75. KoolKell Says:

    FYI

    A very influential LSU grad at the barbershop, who foresaw the Russell fiasco last year, predicts 7 wins for the Raiders this year.

    He cites:

    Continuity
    Hue Jackson
    Short leash on Russell.

  76. KoolKell Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    Well I dont click on links here Dakota…
    —————————
    That’s a damned lie.

  77. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Did he also say that Gradikowski was going to start the season.

  78. KoolKell Says:

    He thinks we’ll have to wait and see how the OTA’s etc play out. But either way Russell will be on a short leash.

  79. Raider guy Says:

    I have faith that Russell can’t change his whole life in one off season, so I would bet grads will be the starter…if there is a fair contest

  80. RaiderResurrection Says:

    I like that the Defense has some good players and are starting to be more aggressive when it comes to rushing the passer.

  81. Norco Bob Says:

    Old man, I dont click on links here, sorry that that bothers you. If youre referring to you constantly posting your jobs site here, I havent ever clicked on it,..no interest. Dont cry about it old man.

  82. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Russell will be on a short leash if the collar still fits.

  83. KoolKell Says:

    Hue Jackson is Russell’s last chance here.

  84. Norco Bob Says:

    The little Polock will start, and Frye will be back up,..unsure who will be 3rd guy,..Russell wont be,..not for 9 million. Word.

  85. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Grads is going to be the starter.

  86. Norco Bob Says:

    Are there still barber shops?…lol

  87. Seymour Bush Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    FYI

    A very influential LSU grad at the barbershop, who foresaw the Russell fiasco last year, predicts 7 wins for the Raiders this year.

    He cites:

    Continuity
    Hue Jackson
    Short leash on Russell.
    ==========================================

    I think this is exactly right. Continuity is going to help big time for a change. Hue Jackson most likely will relate to Jamarcus more than Paul Hackett. And the choke chain on Russell can’t ba a bad thing either. The only real question is can Hue convince Derrick Mason to take “Jivin’s” roster spot. Here is a guy, 13 years in the league, who has always produced. THERE, is your veteran guy our young guys need for guidance.

  88. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Continuity ? Id settle for sticking to a game plan.

  89. Ghost to the Post Says:

    OK, enough about Derrick Mason. We get it. I think the young group of receivers paid there dues enough last year that they deserve a shot to play this year. And if your going to bring in a veteran receiver and disrupt everything. Bring in T.O.

  90. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Ah, rico-pet, I love it! I have you trained so well that you simply can’t go a minute without begging and pleading for my attention!

    It’s EXACTLY what i had planned when I graciously allowed you to train to become my humble, cowering servant.

    But listen, my poodle, i NEVER said becoming my minion would be easy. It’s going to require many more lost nights of sleep than you’ve already experienced and many more days spent hiding in your cubicle, hands shaking too out of control to type.

    But so far …. so GREAT, my pet poodle!

    Hey and send those slow kids of yours my way soon so I can begin their training and education! Ah, I forgot – its the offer you’re just too PETRIFIED to respond to!

    The laughs and the triumphs continue …

  91. RaiderFanFrom Jersey Says:

    Is there somewhere I can look at old game films, from last year anybody?

  92. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Hey Krap Krap, how was that trip to the barbershop? Did they shave it all off for laughs?

    I’m sorry if they did that to you, my old pal. But you know, gotta find the fun in life, my wacky old brotha!

  93. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Ghost to the Post Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    OK, enough about Derrick Mason. We get it. I think the young group of receivers paid there dues enough last year that they deserve a shot to play this year. And if your going to bring in a veteran receiver and disrupt everything. Bring in T.O.
    ===================================================

    Well you’re right. Those guys did pay their dues and they do deserve to play. But having a guy who can come in, play a few downs, move the chains, make some big plays, and help these youngsters become solid pro’s doesn’t seem too far out now does it?

  94. Norco Bob Says:

    I wouldnt know where to find a barber shop,..they still have those candy stripe twirling things out front?…that glass of blue water?…yuk,..think last time I was in one I was 6. Print that.

  95. Seymour Bush Says:

    # RaiderFanFrom Jersey Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 2:33 pm

    Is there somewhere I can look at old game films, from last year anybody?
    =========================================

    Yeah. Check NFL.com. You can get the entire past season for like $25.00 and you can watch every game on demand.

  96. Seymour Bush Says:

    Senior Beeecham Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    Ah, rico-pet, I love it! I have you trained so well that you simply can’t go a minute without begging and pleading for my attention!
    ===========================================

    wacky ain’t here. He must be taking a nap. He sure ain’t working.

  97. RaiderFanFrom Jersey Says:

    Yeah. Check NFL.com. You can get the entire past season for like $25.00 and you can watch every game on demand.

    ====================================================

    Thanks Seymour

  98. RaiderFanFrom Jersey Says:

    Why are we the only team @ the bottom of the NFL’s barrell that isn’t making any moves other than releasing guys we should never have signed in the 1st place? (Ellis the exception, he did some good last year) Mason, TO, a quality lineman, LB, CB, ANYBODY that will help this team! AL, dig deep & bring us the next “great player” ala Gannon or Romo even. An impact player that helps our team, please?!?!!??!!!!

  99. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Yes we need a good veteran receiver but, it’s not like Chaz Scheilens is in his 2nd yr or 3 yr for that matter. We need to let the young wide receivers play. Even DHB. Even if it kills me to write it. He needs playing time. so did Jamarcus but, he didn’t even get that you have to put in the work. He is clueless.

  100. RaiderFanFrom Jersey Says:

    Romanowski I meant – he was a decent player for us

  101. Dakota Says:

    RaiderFanFrom Jersey Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
    Why are we the only team @ the bottom of the NFL’s barrell that isn’t making any moves other than releasing guys we should never have signed in the 1st place? (Ellis the exception, he did some good last year) Mason, TO, a quality lineman, LB, CB, ANYBODY that will help this team! AL, dig deep & bring us the next “great player” ala Gannon or Romo even. An impact player that helps our team, please?!?!!??!!!!
    +++++++++++

    I hate to say it, but maybe Al really is broke and doesn’t want to spend money on players that will probably only be here for one season due to the 2011 lockout.

    That is the only reason Cable is back…too expensive to replace him in 2010 and then pay his replacement in 2011 when Cable’s contract will be expired or a team option.

  102. RaiderFanFrom Jersey Says:

    Big name FA after big name FA, being signed by other teams. I cant stand it! We need help too! C’mon SON!

  103. Norco Bob Says:

    Jersey, whos out there ya want? Masons not leaving Baltimore, and T.O.,..maybe, I would take him I guess, just for the zaniness it would bring me in my row 1 seats…might even get popcorn poured on me by him. Word.

  104. Raiders4eve Says:

    McClain reveals he has Crohn’s disease

    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 10, 2010 5:32 PM ET
    Alabama linebacker Rolando McClain’s Pro Day got off to a fine start with an expected time in the forty.

    He didn’t finish his drills, however, after getting ill. After the workout, he disclosed he has fought Crohn’s Disease since his freshman year in high school. It’s treated through medication.

    We’re amazed this information wasn’t out already, but it clearly hasn’t prevented McClain from producing. David Garrard was diagnosed with Crohn’s Disease during his career and it hasn’t slowed him down.

    Still, we wonder if this will cause teams to look at McClain any differently – positively or negatively. Perhaps the biggest knock on McClain is his inconsistent motor and effort.

    Maybe his Crohn’s Disease plays into that, maybe it doesn’t. It’s just one more piece to the puzzle for teams to figure out by April’s draft.

  105. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Dakota do you think there is any chance that Gruden will come back to Oakland. His contract runs through 2010 with ESPN?

  106. Dakota Says:

    I’d still take McClain…in the second round lol.

  107. Norco Bob Says:

    Dakota its nice to see you consistantly wrong…after all these years of “people” in here making fun of you, laughing at you,..and you never stray from being consistantly wrong,..I find that admirable. Print that.

  108. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Norco makes a good point, Krappy.

    Fantastic Sam’s isn’t technically considered a “barber shop”. It’s more like a budget-friendly family salon, considering women and toddlers are the most common customers.

    But you go on living the dream, you silly old fossil!

  109. RaiderFanFrom Jersey Says:

    I hate to say it, but maybe Al really is broke and doesn’t want to spend money on players that will probably only be here for one season due to the 2011 lockout.

    That is the only reason Cable is back…too expensive to replace him in 2010 and then pay his replacement in 2011 when Cable’s contract will be expired or a team option.

    =================================================

    Thats BS! Al, not u Dakota. If thats the case (&thats a big IF) Just go into debt like the rest of America. By the time they catch up 2 u AL, it’ll be 2 late. We would have already had our RIP moment of silence in ur honor for the years of commitment u gave to the Raiders & AFL/NFL.
    Im just playin….but Im sayin…

  110. RaiderFanFrom Jersey Says:

    @ this point, I’d be happy with anything. I check all these sights everyday looking for Oakland to make a splash, to no avail! Its bad enough we suck during the season, but do we have to be a disgrace in the offseason too????

  111. Dakota Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
    Dakota its nice to see you consistantly wrong…after all these years of “people” in here making fun of you, laughing at you,..and you never stray from being consistantly wrong,..I find that admirable. Print that.

    +++++++

    lol…too funny

  112. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    JerryMac…

    Got to give you props. You let others do the leg work for you, while you sit at home munching on Funions, sipping on a diet sodee pop. Then you type a few of your own words and hit send. Brilliant!

    Let us review the last three topics:

    1.) Gradkowski, via talk radio transcript.
    2.) Larry Johnson, via pft.com
    3.) Cal pro day, via Corkran. (at least you didn’t “borrow” from D. White at the competition this time.)

  113. Norco Bob Says:

    Are all the other teams not signing any of these FA bums all broke too? Lol. Who have the Cowboys signed?…Jerry has a zillion bucks.

  114. RaiderDebo Says:

    Ghost to the Post Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
    Not only print it but, let’s be honest since he was in Jr. High he has been given everything as an athelete, they have catered to him and they have coddled him and now he doesn’t even understand how to do anything for himself. He is completely lost.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Like your point about continuity. JR hasn’t had that at WR since he was drafted. As a rookie, his go-to guy was Jerry Porter. He doesn’t get re-signed. Then we pick up Drew Carter and Walker for the 2008 Season. JR built good chemistry with Carter only to have him blow his knee out in the preseason. So we pick up Ashlie Lelie off the street. By the end of the season, JR has it going with Chaz and JLH. You figure they go into the 2009 season as starters, right? We all know the rest. For finishing the 2008 season strong, JR gets Murphy and DHB as starters in 2009. And he was supposed to light it up, right? And even with those guys, we should have been 2-0 to if not for the ‘give up” D we played on the last drive of the SD game. But once Gallery and Green got hurt, we couldn’t protect a QB in his 2nd year as a starter with Murphy and DHB as the starting WRs. Not a recipe for success. Al knows this. I don’t believe the leash is as short as a lot of you would like to think.

  115. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Ostler over at sfgate had a pretty good piece on Russell and “lethargy gate”.

    I saw it at raidernews.com

    Humorous read.

  116. Dakota Says:

    Ghost to the Post Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
    Dakota do you think there is any chance that Gruden will come back to Oakland. His contract runs through 2010 with ESPN?
    ++++++++++++++++++

    I’d love to see that, but I can’t imagine that Gruden wouldn’t have better offers elsewhere…maybe Jacksonville or Carolina or Houston.

  117. Seymour Bush Says:

    # RaiderFanFrom Jersey Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 2:42 pm

    Why are we the only team @ the bottom of the NFL’s barrell that isn’t making any moves other than releasing guys we should never have signed in the 1st place? (Ellis the exception, he did some good last year) Mason, TO, a quality lineman, LB, CB, ANYBODY that will help this team! AL, dig deep & bring us the next “great player” ala Gannon or Romo even. An impact player that helps our team, please?!?!!??!!!!
    ===============================================

    Other than Julius Peppers this has been a pretty weak free agent class. David Carr? Jesus. I mean Buffalo was in such dire need they spent big on Cornell “False Start” Green! That Cornell Green was one of the marquee OL has to tell ya something. I think we did the right thing by shedding some guys, and building thru a deep draft. Looking at the CB selection in this draft, it’s no wonder Al put a high tag on (shake, shudder) Routt.

  118. Dakota Says:

    Seymour oak,

    Think this is the year we finally get that first round offensive tackle?

    Anthony Davis is the guy I want at this point…junior, comes in for one year, then gets to mature over the lockout in 2011…comes back as a dominant tackle.

  119. Ghost to the Post Says:

    I would say Big Al is actually doing a good job right now.

  120. Ghost to the Post Says:

    by not doing anything.

  121. Seymour Bush Says:

    Ghost to the Post Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 2:43 pm

    Yes we need a good veteran receiver but, it’s not like Chaz Scheilens is in his 2nd yr or 3 yr for that matter.
    =========================================

    Actually, this next year will be Shilens third year in the league. His first year, Kiffin didn’t play him early, and last year he was hurt most of the year, so he really doesn’t have a lot of field time. Good looking prospect tho.

  122. Seymour Bush Says:

    Dakota Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    Seymour oak,

    Think this is the year we finally get that first round offensive tackle?
    ===========================================

    One can only hope. As I have said here a couple times, we certainly needed some offensive linemen and Al really had to have that big fast WR that can stretch the field. Last year, there were some real good Oline propsects, but the biggest, fastest major conference WR was DHB. So they grabbed him. This year, there are AGAIN some real real good Oline prospects, but no big fast major college WR’s. I think I see where Al was going with this. So, to answer your question, expect either Bulaga or Anthony Davis at 8 overall.

  123. Ghost to the Post Says:

    My bad. It feels like Scheilens has been expected to be the man for at least 5 years tho.

  124. Dakota Says:

    Rex Hadnot
    Height: 6-2 Weight: 320 Age: 28
    Position G/C
    Career starts 76
    only 9.5 sacks allowed in 76 starts

    Had a knee injury early last season, but started the last few games of the year…

    Al, ignore Cable and his nut sucking of his crappy o-line selection Satele and sign up Rex! He can play C, or he can replace Cooper at RG.

  125. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Ghost to the Post Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    My bad. It feels like Scheilens has been expected to be the man for at least 5 years tho.
    =========================================

    I know what ya mean. It seems like Jamarcus has been tossing pix here for the last 9 years. That’s what losing does to the mind and soul.

  126. Dakota Says:

    UPDATE:

    Speaking with reporters, Best said he talked with Raiders assistants Kelly Skipper (running backs) and Jim Michalczik (offensive line) at the combine and believes his 40 time met with their approval.

    “They did interview me,” Best said. “I think I showed them Raiders speed.”
    _____________

    nice update Jerry…scares the hell out of me that the Raiders would interview this kid and entirely skip the Oklahoma pro day with Trent Williams…

    WTF!

  127. KoolKell Says:

    Cal Berkeley is only what, 15 miles away?

  128. Dakota Says:

    I can’t wait for the Raiders to someday be in charge of the combine…I can see Al sitting in the golf cart making all of the players run 40s over and over again…the only other drill would be fly patters to test the WRs speed and the QBs arms lol.

  129. Norco Bob Says:

    Berekely is esy to find,..just follow the homeless and ugly women.

  130. DKnight007 Says:

    If they go OT…it should be Trent Williams or Anthony Davis.

    Or draft all everything LB Weatherspoon and then take the best OT or DT in Round 2?

  131. Senior Beeecham Says:

    It depends where you are, Krappy.

    If you’re at Arby’s, it’ll take you about 40 min to get to Berkeley. Remember, you have trouble running with your pants around your ankles.

    However, if you’re coming from home it’ll take over 4.5 hours, because you’re going to have trouble running with a dump in your pants down the freeway at rush hour.

  132. Mistabr0wn Says:

    KoolKell are you giving Barbershop updates again? What color suspenders are you wearing today ?

  133. DKnight007 Says:

    Gaaawd…..Al Davis and this whole dis organization decision making process is plain and simply LAME!!

    LOL!

  134. Mistabr0wn Says:

    I remember when Lofton went to the Cal Pro Day and took a look at DeSean Jackson, how did that work out for us ?

  135. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Oakglen/Seymour, did you call somebody a troll?

    lmao @ the pot calling the kettle!

  136. Mistabr0wn Says:

    T.O will fall in AL’s lap when no other team wants that a$$ clown.

    *puke*

  137. KoolKell Says:

    Whoever they draft, it has to be a self-motivated individual who’s driven to succeed, DESPITE the toxic atmosphere at Raider HQ.

    Gawd knows he won’t get any help from the Raiders.

  138. Seymour Bush Says:

    mistabrOwn you might want to get your GED before you start mouthing off again. Otherwise I’ll shove you up your own ass just like last night. Or better yet, go for the monkey brain transplant. It certainly couldn’t hurt.

  139. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Yes Seymour/Oakglen you realllllly handed me my a$$ hahaha!

    Did you get a brain transplant after you called JaMeatloaf a “bonafide NFL Qb”?

  140. ottocrat Says:

    It’s true. Speed is very important to the Raiders. For instance, JaPrecious Russle can eat a bag of Dorritos faster than anybody in the league.

  141. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Seymour, be honest you changed your name so I couldn’t repost all your Oakglen bloopers ?

    I still can we all know its you. The thing is your going to make new bloopers with this Seymour name so I’ll just be patient.

    :D

  142. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Why do you consider the atmosphere at Raider HQ to be “toxic”, Krappy?

    Unless you’ve been leaving your freshly soiled hospital gowns in Al’s parking space again.

  143. Norco Bob Says:

    How do you know about the atmosphere old kell?…you live by HQ but you are too scared to go there and tell Al what you think,..much safer in here,..you old coward.

  144. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Kell is the resident chicken little of the oakland raiders. Toxic atmosphere?

  145. Norco Bob Says:

    Old kell is the resident old crybaby,..hard to believe the oldest man here is the biggest crybaby. sad.

  146. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Louis Murphy is a self motivated player who is getting better each week with hard work and a positive attitude. How is it toxic in Oakland for him.

  147. KoolKell Says:

    Some players showed disregard for authority. In one ugly incident, which occurred a few days before the Raiders’ 34-21 loss to the Cowboys on Nov. 19, defensive end Anthony Smith attacked his position coach, Floyd Peters, after Peters questioned his play during a meeting. Witnesses say the 6′3″, 265-pound Smith knocked the 60-year-old Peters to the ground while other players and coaches watched. Yet Smith started against Dallas, which disgusted many of his teammates.

    “The problem with the Raiders is there’s no accountability,” says one prominent veteran. “People say Al Davis is too involved. Hell, I think he should get more involved, if that’s what it would take.”

    Last season Davis spent less time around the players and coaches than he had in previous years, but he remained the Raiders’ absolute authority figure.

    Mike Silver S.I. 1996

  148. Ghost to the Post Says:

    He was derailed by the coaching staff and told to be more liek Jamarcus?

  149. No Mas Diamante Says:

    I would us sign Larry Johnson and then trade Bush for Mcnabb straight up. In the draft I, if we stay at 8, I would take WR Dez Bryant if we can’t get one of the premier Ot’s or DT’s. I like the potential of bryant, schillens, Murphy, Bey and Miller. Higgins is done.
    Then take DT terrance cody in the second and RB hardesty and MLB sean lee in the third. rest of the draft used on beef..

  150. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Nice and current.

  151. Richochet Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    FYI

    A very influential LSU grad at the barbershop, who foresaw the Russell fiasco last year, predicts 7 wins for the Raiders this year.

    He cites:

    Continuity
    Hue Jackson
    Short leash on Russell.
    =====================
    LMFAO…geez…you’re such a lemming.

    Are you that ignorant that you don’t realize how ignorant you sound? “An LSU grad”?? he ‘told you that”..SO NOW YOU BUY INTO IT?

    You’re a flea, aren’t you?

    Admit it..your wife makes all the decisions.
    Where to go. When to leave. What dress she wants you to iron for her.

    BTW…how’s business? Oh..lol…my bad.

    never mind..hey..I’m SURE things will pick up..I mean, it’s only March..you’ll make some money this year..I’m sure of it.

  152. KoolKell Says:

    On how he led the Raiders: “When I came to Oakland in 1999, I didn’t sign up to be the team jerk but I was taken aback by the things I was seeing. Guys being late to meetings, guys missing practices. Sometimes, something had to be said. … You’re never going to have 53 guys committed. But if you have 45 or 48, you’re gonna beat the team that has 25. When I first got to Oakland, I would say we were batting about .500. Over a course of time, we brought in players like a Jerry Rice or a Rod Woodson or a Tracy Armstrong and we were starting to head into the right direction.” -Rich Gannon

  153. Ghost to the Post Says:

    How about Jared Odrick for DT in the 3rd round. He is the gentlemen the steelers are looking at to replace Casey Hampton with.

  154. Norco Bob Says:

    Old kell,..youve posted both of those pasted articles dozens of times,…your sinilety is saddening,…you need to live in a rest home.

  155. Norco Bob Says:

    One without internet access.

  156. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Who’s “Tracy” Armstrong? sure rich meant “Trace”…

  157. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Sorry had to get off of Kell’s topic.

  158. RaiderFanFrom Jersey Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    …I think I see where Al was going with this….
    ===================================================

    That’s a BIG statement there, lol. U truly hve a gift my friend ;^)

  159. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    mistabrOwn you might want to get your GED before you start mouthing off again. Otherwise I’ll shove you up your own ass just like last night. Or better yet, go for the monkey brain transplant. It certainly couldn’t hurt.
    ——————————–
    THAT REMINDS ME….

    Oakglenn? Why don’t you want to share about you being a rock star?

    HEY…YOU’RE THE ONE WHO SAID IT..so…why so mum?

    Let’s see…chronologically YOU stated:
    Graduated from college at 20
    BOUGHT A HOUSE AT 19..

    When asked how you got a lender to give a loan to an unemployed full time student (I.E. YOU’RE A LYING ASS DOG)..WHAT WAS YOUR REPLY?

    Oh yeah…
    Seymour Bush Says:
    March 3rd, 2010 at 5:23 pm
    Wack job how do you know I didn’t have a hit band at the age of 18?
    ====================================

    Yep, LMFAO…so…uh…GlennyPoo??

    GOING TO BACK UP YOUR WORDS, OR ARE YOU GOING TO ADMIT YOU’RE A LYING CROSS POSTING CROCK OF CRAPPOLA?

  160. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Browns bring in Fargas for a visit.—pft.com

  161. Richochet Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    Cal Berkeley is only what, 15 miles away?
    =========================
    You live in Alameda?
    And you aren’t sure how far away Berkeley is?

    lol…you need to ask your wife to let you out more.

  162. Florida Pete Says:

    909RaiderLifer Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
    Browns bring in Fargas for a visit.—pft.com

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    aha !!!

    now i see the strategy…

    the raiders want Fargas to sign with a team…

    so they can trade Dmac for him…

    it is all so clear to me now…

  163. RaiderFanFrom Jersey Says:

    Ghost to the Post Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
    Louis Murphy is a self motivated player who is getting better each week with hard work and a positive attitude. How is it toxic in Oakland for him.

    ====================================================

    I like Murph a lot! His attitude is what this team needs. He needs to be locked up for the forseeable future. Let him be the eventual veteran leader in the locker room. I’m sure with his work ethic, those dropped passes from last year will decrease drastically this season. Look for him to have a breakout year this season – 60-75 rec. Mark it down, lol. Hey Bey should be ok too. He seemed to have a positive (bordeline naive) attitude despite his lack of success; that is a good sign. As much as I stress and complain about where we are, we do have a good group of young players. We just need to turn their potential into success & a change in our mindset as a team. GO RAIDERS!!!!!

  164. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Pete…

    That wouldn’t surprise me….

  165. Richochet Says:

    WOW…turns out I owe Lil Beeech an apology.
    I told him he was to stupid to play bingo, but obviously I was wrong.
    Our own Lil Beeech was crowned grand champion in the “Geriatric Old Bones Bingo Brigade”.

    50$ entry got him the grand prize of a month’s worth of Depends, and two boxes of PoliDent.

    I, for one, am damn proud of the old fella…

  166. Richochet Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    Quinn would whip Russell’s body into shape and then start throwing bombs down the field. Russell’s problem isn’t his body, it is his weak lazy ass mind and lack of heart that allows his talent filled body to go into disrepair.

    Sad….
    =====================
    There is a reason people move OUT of your state, and NOT into it.
    Something in the air there makes ya stupid…
    I mean, look at you!.

    “Talent filled body’???

    See what I mean? You’ve said a lot of stupid things, but this is up there at the top.
    The ONLY attribute he has, is not even a desirable attribute in the NFL..a “rocket arm”.

    He’s slow mentally.
    He is fat and out of shape.
    Guy has mantitties.
    Horrible footwork in the pocket.
    Slow as can be.
    Falls down once he’s touched.
    Hands can’t hold onto ball, and fumbles too much..

    Wait..what were his pluses, again, in that “talent filled body” as you put it?

  167. Raider O Says:

    Larry Johnson is a good HB to have. He runs with power, has vision, and he has speed for a power back.
    Sign him!

    But why aren’t we looking at OL & DL. WTH is Cable doing? The fat monkey is not a HC!

  168. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Good night all. Go Raiders

  169. Raider O Says:

    The Problem with Cable other than his play calling and beating women, is that he thinks he can do miracles with the OLine. He thinks he can add avg guys like Pears, Barnes, Satele, and turn them into PB talent. He thinks he is an OL Guru!

    Damn you Fat Monkey!

  170. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    priorities, and in this precise order:

    General Mananger

    Head Coach

    Offensive and Defensive Coordinator assigned by HC

    At least 3 offensive linemen either at a pro bowl level or projected to be there within 3 years by most independent, accredited scouts.

    Quarterback

    At least one more defensive lineman and one more linebacker that play exceptional against the run.

    Then, Larry Johnson.

  171. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Butterbean is not a real HC. Just a Davis puppet placed in there to replace Kiffin, who’s only been kept on after last season to give the impression that there’s some kind of continuity. Fans of any other team would have turned in their season tickets by now. But we’re talking about Raider fans, here. As far as it looks, they’ve bought in.

  172. 24 Says:

    And the Raiders wonder…”Where’s the money?”

  173. Raider O Says:

    I know most of you don’t agree that Al ( Raiders) is having financial problems, but we haven’t been active the last 2 years in FA. Those huge, useless, unworthy, and surprising contracts are costing us a lot now. We could have signed Dansby, Peppers, or Big Albert last year. But no.. We signed TK, Warren, and Walker!

    Is Al going to sell more shares this FA too?

  174. 24 Says:

    Trade Jamarcus Russell for Brady Quinn? At least one of them works hard.

  175. Raider O Says:

    Al,

    Just Sell & Sign baby!

  176. Raider O Says:

    I would take the Lazy Freak with a cannon!

  177. 24 Says:

    Raider O – If you were to put JR and BQ each on a good team. I seriously believe BQ would have turned out better but unfortunately…they ended up on the Raiders and Browns and now we’ll never know.

  178. Raider O Says:

    24,

    They both are being labeled as Busts due to their play. Atlest JR can improve with a better work ethic. BQ can’t improve, and we all know it’s not due to his work ethic.

  179. Raider O Says:

    Did you move to San Diego?

  180. Raider O Says:

    did you get married?

    Sorry for asking too many questions. lol

  181. 24 Says:

    I moved to San Diego and I’m more broke because of it so no…I’m not married. Besides, marriage is overrated. Its not that I don’t want to but we’re perfectly happy while others are getting divorces. I’m not in a hurry. If I had the money, it would be done.

  182. Raider O Says:

    I still blame things on the 2004 draft. That was the strongest draft IMO, and we drafted a G with the 2nd pick, and a C in the 2nd RD. Most of those players drafted in the 1st 2 TDs ended up being PBers. We lost our C to FA, and the G never made the PB.

  183. Raider O Says:

    Welcome to SD, and good luck with saving money and getting married.

    Getting Married and trying to save money in SD is not going to be easy or cheap.

  184. Norco Bob Says:

    Im no fan of Cable really,..Im glad he didnt get fired though,..not after that ex of his got on espn,..from that moment on I wanted him to keep his job,..she and randy both deserved to be assaulted,..I support that,…all the way. Print that.

  185. Norco Bob Says:

    If I lived in SD,..I would hang out around the border, with an assault rifle, infrared scope,…hey now.

  186. 24 Says:

    If not Cable…then who? I mean…all I’ve wanted is some consistency with the buttload of coaches we’ve had so maybe Cable isn’t the best choice in the world but theres certainly been worse and at least hes getting better coaches like Hue Jackson to help him. We weren’t getting anywhere having a different coach every 2 years and we’d probably hire some other loser if we let Cable go anyways so why not?

  187. 24 Says:

    Norco – The people on the other side of the border probably have a lot to do with some of the drugs you like so why you gonna shoot them? Its not the mexican people the government is trying to keep out, its all the drugs, especially the crystal meth. Saw a program about that lastnight. All I have to say is…WOW!

  188. Norco Bob Says:

    Only coach I would take over Cable is Gruden. Word. Im still heart broken,..still not over it…yes, you can print that. :(

  189. Norco Bob Says:

    Iv never done meth, crank, speed,..not my thing.

  190. 24 Says:

    All I know is…I wouldn’t touch that stuff ever. It seems like once you try it, theres not getting away from it. Its too addictive that I wouldn’t want to risk getting stuck on it. Not worth it.

  191. Raiders4eve Says:

    Anthony Davis has odd day

    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 10, 2010 8:51 PM ET
    A few offensive line coaches showed up to Rutgers’ Pro Day Wednesday, hoping to watch tackle Anthony Davis work out.

    According to Mike Mayock on NFL Network, Davis didn’t show up because of a hamstring injury that wasn’t fully communicated to teams. Feeling sick, Davis wasn’t even at the school. (Hmm.)

    Mayock reports that coaches then needed to call Davis to come in to meet them. When he arrived, he wouldn’t weigh in. (Hmm.)

    Davis is a first-round pick, but there have been some concerns raised previously about his weight fluctuations and maturity. Wednesday’s adventures can’t help his case.

  192. 24 Says:

    Norco – I’m still heart broken too. I just can’t understand how someone can trade away a successful Head Coach like that? Who does that? We had just a good thing going. If we had picked up and been successful over these last years, I don’t think it would have been such a big deal but the fall has been so hard.

  193. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Monte Poole’s Bay Area FA follies article

    http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_14644131?source=most_viewed#article_comments

    “(Kwame Harris) This makes the list mostly because of the arrogance the Raiders displayed by implying the 49ers — Harris’ previous employer — had failed the player. Davis overpaid to discover what everybody else knew, that Kwame is a nice guy and a mediocre lineman.”

    =======================

    The 6-7, 322 lber was part of a line that saw Frank Gore rush for 2,797 yds in 2006-2007. It was felt Harris suffered when SF switched from a ZBS and Oakland sumised a return might to it may pay dividends. It did not.

    ============================

    No. 1: OK, it’s our man Javon, whose six-year, $55 million deal ($16 mil guaranteed) in 2008 is one for the ages.

    “The signing seemed desperate from the start and never made sense. Even Walker, who tried to ask for his release, knew he was stealing money from the boss.

    The release of Walker this week suggests the boss finally came to grips with the fact he had victimized himself.”

    ============================

    No doubt Davis signed off. He is the one is charge, but this, Wilson and DeAngelo Hall were all Lane Kiffin moves.

  194. 24 Says:

    Dear God…Anthony Davis will be a Raider.

  195. Norco Bob Says:

    I dont want a successor,..I want Gruden back…period.

  196. Chris in NY Says:

    I think LJ is kind of interesting — as long as he doesn’t get Javon Walker/Ted Danson type money.

    I know he’s been pretty bad the last few seasons. However, KC and their o-line was really atrocious. He’s gotta know he’s another bad season away from being gone for good in this league. I’ve always felt that lack of motivation is LJ’s biggest problem. If he’s motivated to keep his career alive he could be a decent addition.

    I have followed his career pretty closely. I rode Priest Holmes and LJ to a string of fantasy league championships in the early/mid ’00s. He’s pretty similar to Michael Bush but a little more fluid as a runner and a little faster at top speed as well. Last couple of years he’s looked hesitant in his runs, but a bad o-line can do that to a guy. Wanted no part of him in my league last year, but for some reason I just have this gut feeling that he could rebound for another season or two. A modest contract and he’d be a guy with some upside and little risk.

  197. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
    Only coach I would take over Cable is Gruden. Word. Im still heart broken,..still not over it…yes, you can print that.

    ==================

    Get over it.

    Gruden turned the team over to wily vets who self coached and policed the team ala George Allen and the Redskins.

    Had success but mortgaged the future sjust like he did in Tampa.

    The guys not all that.

  198. Norco Bob Says:

    nnnmmbbddiii,..youre a tool,..Gruden was everything,…tell you what, Im glad he beat us in San Diego…print that.

  199. Nnamdi21 Says:

    196. The reason LJ was worth a dmab in the 00-mid period is hall of fame linemen like Shields and Roaf with Bryan Waters and Casey Wiegman.

    When theose cats FINALLY retired after like 30+ yrs combined he went to shatner.

  200. 24 Says:

    NY – Al Davis would find a way to give the guy Top 5 RB money.

  201. 24 Says:

    Say what you want about Gruden but the one thing he had attached to him was success. Nobody since has done that.

  202. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
    nnnmmbbddiii,..youre a tool,..Gruden was everything,…tell you what, Im glad he beat us in San Diego…print that.

    ======================

    I humbly apologize.

    The empirical evidence you so succinctly provided left me no alternative but to whole heartedly agree with your well stated, clear and concise point of view on the coaching ability of former Raider Coach Jon Gruden…jack ass.

  203. 24 Says:

    Gruden was a born Raider. His face and attitude made him the perfect coach.

  204. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Gruden = overrated.

  205. 24 Says:

    Rich Gannon was a perfect compliment…theres no doubt about that. Its hard to imagine Gruden without Gannon. Thats the problem. Ever good head coach needs a good QB. Sean Payton can attest to that.

  206. Norco Bob Says:

    Iv just decided, my new row 1 seats costume will be Jon Gruden,..Chucky,..I will have it down, I will look like him, I already have same hair color,..I can pull it off,..I will get that sneer down,..I used to imitate Dave Mustaines sneer, its the same one,..thats it,..I will dress up as Chucky all year in row 1,…I will be a star. Hey now. When I get on jumbo tron, I hope camera cuts to Al Davis…word.

  207. Raiders4eve Says:

    Guys, does any of you know why we don’t have two third rounders this year listed in the Raiders site?

    http://www.raiders.com/news/draft-2010.html

  208. 24 Says:

    Nnamdi21 – YOU’RE OVERRATED =P

  209. Nnamdi21 Says:

    24 Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
    Gruden was a born Raider. His face and attitude made him the perfect coach.

    ======================

    Until the vets broke down and his house of cards collapsed.

    Tra la la, off to trash a Super Bowl caliber team and capitalize on someone elses work.

    La la la…

  210. Raiders4eve Says:

    ROUND PICK PLAYER POSITION
    1 8 (8)
    2 7 (39)
    3 6 (69)
    4 8 (?)
    5 7 (?)
    6 6 (?)
    7 8 (?) Traded to Carolina

  211. Nnamdi21 Says:

    24 Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
    Nnamdi21 – YOU’RE OVERRATED =P

    =============

    Not according to yo’ Momma…

  212. Raiders4eve Says:

    Does this sound right? I thought we had two third and two fifth rounders and when did we trade our 7th rounder?

  213. Chris in NY Says:

    I think Bruce Campbell is very much the odds on favorite for the pick at No. 8. Factoring Suh, McCoy, Okung and Berry are virtual locks to be off the board in the top 7, the way I see it:

    Bruce Campbell: 5:3
    Trent Williams: 3:1
    Anthony Davis: 4:1
    Brian Bulaga: 4:1
    Derrick Morgan: 5:1
    Jason Paul Pierre: 5:1
    Taylor Mays: 7:1
    Dez Bryant: 10:1
    Jahvid Best: 15:1
    Joe Haden: 20:1

  214. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Raiders4eve Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
    ROUND PICK PLAYER POSITION
    1 8 (8)
    2 7 (39)
    3 6 (69)
    4 8 (?)
    5 7 (?)
    6 6 (?)
    7 8 (?) Traded to Carolina

    ====================

    Cheers Raiders4eve

  215. Norco Bob Says:

    I will look into it Eve.

  216. Norco Bob Says:

    Cody will be there at 69. Hey now.

  217. Norco Bob Says:

    39

  218. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
    nnbbmmddii…I go to every game, talk to hundreds of fans,..you are the only one Iv ever hear say bad things about Gruden,..its clear that we are all right, and you are a total fag. Print that.

    =====================

    lol!

    Its the truth, you know, that thing you take so many pills to try and avoid as much as possible.

    Lord knows I would if I were such a tremendous slouch.

    Enjoy being a corn holder me lady!~

    P.S. Nobody loves you.

  219. Norco Bob Says:

    Gruden has a ring gay nnmbbdi…has a raider head coach won one on the last 30 or so years…youre welcome.

  220. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Bulaga’s supposed to be the cast iron lock this year. Best technique ect.

    I wonder if Rams take Okung if all 4 top tackles are off the board by 8.

  221. Norco Bob Says:

    Hows that 8 million bucks and worthless draft picks workin out for ya?…youre welcome nnbbmmmbdi the homo.

  222. Chris in NY Says:

    Here’s our draft picks as they stand:

    1) 8
    2) 7
    3) 5
    3) 21
    4) 8
    5) 7
    5) 27
    7) 8

    There you go. 8 picks in 7 rounds. No pick in the 6th.

  223. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
    Gruden has a ring gay nnmbbdi…has a raider head coach won one on the last 30 or so years…youre welcome

    ===============

    A ring that rightfully belongs to Tony Dungy and handed to him by Callahan.

  224. Norco Bob Says:

    PFT has just jumped into the Jamarcus Russell fiasco. Check it out. Lol

  225. Chris in NY Says:

    Norco,
    You think we should 69 Mt. Cody?

  226. Norco Bob Says:

    hey gay nnmmbbdo,..who has the ring?…dats right biitch,..gruden.

  227. Norco Bob Says:

    If hes there at 69 why not?

  228. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Chris in NY Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
    I think Bruce Campbell is very much the odds on favorite for the pick at No. 8. Factoring Suh, McCoy, Okung and Berry are virtual locks to be off the board in the top 7, the way I see it:

    Bruce Campbell: 5:3
    Trent Williams: 3:1
    Anthony Davis: 4:1
    Brian Bulaga: 4:1
    Derrick Morgan: 5:1
    Jason Paul Pierre: 5:1
    Taylor Mays: 7:1
    Dez Bryant: 10:1
    Jahvid Best: 15:1

    ========================

    Bulaga’s rated to go in the mid to late 1st but like I said, there could be a run premium tackles. He schooled Derrick Morgan in the Orange bowl and kept him silent all game.

    Great techinique.

  229. Norco Bob Says:

    Chris, without that 6th round pick,..we are doomed. Crud.

  230. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
    hey gay nnmmbbdo,..who has the ring?…dats right biitch,..gruden.

    ================

    A ring that rightfully belongs to Tony Dungy and handed to him by Callahan.

    A ring he “won” over our beloed raiders you traitor!!!!

    lol, pi-ss off grandma, your diapers full again…

  231. Norco Bob Says:

    I was at the game nnbmmbio,..I was happy for Jon,..still am.

  232. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Chris in NY Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
    Norco,
    You think we should 69 Mt. Cody?

    ====================

    best MLB avail.

    I think Davis wants to hang his hat on Kelly and that Harvard kid Desmnod Bryant who showed some flashes last yr with 24 solo tackles in,limited action.

  233. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
    I was at the game nnbmmbio,..I was happy for Jon,..still am.

    =================

    Thuper dooper.

    Now lube up in front of your Gruden shrine…

  234. RaiderRon Says:

    LOL @ Nmadi,

    SO Gruden went with Dungys guys eh? Whos guys did Callahan take to the Superbowl???

  235. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Odds are Morrisons MLB at the start of 2010 unless Davis drafts a MLB high.

  236. Norco Bob Says:

    The shrine has a lombardi trophy,..wheres that 8 million and draft picks? lmao.

  237. Nnamdi21 Says:

    RaiderRon Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
    LOL @ Nmadi,

    SO Gruden went with Dungys guys eh? Whos guys did Callahan take to the Superbowl???

    ======================

    Grundens.

    And his playbook.

  238. Norco Bob Says:

    Gruden will return,..and I will be in row 1 to high five him when he does,…print that.

  239. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
    The shrine has a lombardi trophy,..wheres that 8 million and draft picks? lmao.

    ==================

    That you insert sideways much to your Mothers shagrin. I’m telling you, EMS is going to stop responding…

  240. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
    Gruden will return,..and I will be in row 1 to high five him when he does,…print that.

    ====================

    You can throw your splooge at him like the guy in Silence of the Lambs.

  241. 24 Says:

    Nnamdi21 – My momma? Haha. Well shes dead and her ashes are in a box. Good luck with that. =)

  242. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Something unsavory about poking fun of the metally handicapped so I’ll let it go at this point.

    Nighty night Dorco Blob!

  243. Nnamdi21 Says:

    24 Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
    Nnamdi21 – My momma? Haha. Well shes dead and her ashes are in a box. Good luck with that. =)

    =========================

    No wonder why she just laid there.

  244. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
    24 Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
    Nnamdi21 – My momma? Haha. Well shes dead and her ashes are in a box. Good luck with that. =)

    ======================

    Lovely that you think so highly of her as to keep her loving stored in a box.

  245. Nnamdi21 Says:

    TTFN!~

  246. RaiderRon Says:

    So if Callahan was a better coach and won you would say it belonged to Gruden. Hmmmm…ok

  247. 24 Says:

    Nnamdi21 – Hahaha…well she slept around too much while she was alive…I certainly wouldn’t be surprised if she did it while dead too.

  248. 24 Says:

    Nnamdi21 – Box, urn, grave…whatever. Burying somebody is hella expensive and unless she was planning paying for it, that just wasn’t going to happen.

  249. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    If the Queen had balls, Ron.

  250. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Nnamdi do you have a problem with Jon Gruden?

  251. 24 Says:

    There are Gruden haters and there are Al Davis haters. They’re both out of the league anyways, even if some think otherwise.

  252. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Nnamdi, I don’t think a Raider fan is a traitor for praising Gruden’s victory over us. I know a lot of Raider fans that are glad he showed Al up. The way Al dealt with him was completely wrong, anyway. Al deserved that loss. If any Raider fans want to go down with Al, go for it. Not me. I was mad when it happened but looking back on it, it’s the way it should have been. Al deserved to get humiliated that day.

  253. Norco Bob Says:

    I love jon gruden,…print that.

  254. Norco Bob Says:

    And yes I was at Rickys when he was in town to do a Niner game,.he knows how much we all love him,…that was agreat day…even though Ricky Ricardo is a tool.

  255. buckeyeraider Says:

    4eve,
    The Raiders have the Patriots 3rd rd pick from the Burgess trade, I believe. Have to say Al got the better of that one. Still have to wait and see how the Seymour deal plays out.

  256. KoolKell Says:

    In the last 20 years, the Raiders have had 10 Head Coaches and 6 Winning Seasons.

    So whoever is hiring the Coaches needs to be fired, right?

  257. buckeyeraider Says:

    Jon Gruden is a human being, and has his flaws like everybody else. I loved Chuckie when he was in Oakland. He had the raiders knocking on the door of a championship. He was charismatic. He was cool. Unfortunately, he finally won in Tampa. However, his teams were veteran laden. Both of them. He didn’t draft well, or develop young players particularly well. The bottom line is he left not one but two franchises old and in shambles.

  258. buckeyeraider Says:

    That being said. I’d take gruden back in a heartbeat.

  259. Raiders4eve Says:

    Buckeyeraider

    Yeah, I know we got two third rounders, the whole confusion was from our beloved Raider website, they still didn’t update their site. Matter fact, they still have Cornell Green as our RT lol.

  260. JB Says:

    # 24 Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    Rich Gannon was a perfect compliment…theres no doubt about that. Its hard to imagine Gruden without Gannon. Thats the problem. Ever good head coach needs a good QB. Sean Payton can attest to that.
    *********************

    GOOD LET’S HIRE GRUDEN AS HC & GANNON AS OC. I CAN’T THINK OF A BETTER MORE SUCCESSFUL COMBINATION.

  261. KoolKell Says:

    Tom Cable hasn’t done anything with this team. They’re worse than when Kiffin was here.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/

  262. Nnamdi21 Says:

    24 Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
    Nnamdi21 – Box, urn, grave…whatever. Burying somebody is hella expensive and unless she was planning paying for it, that just wasn’t going to happen.

    ======================

    Honestly, my condolences. My mother in law passed recetnly and it is ridiculous how much they rob the berieved.

  263. CRACKRAIDER Says:

    . Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland

    Some in Raider Nation may be dreading the idea of another Terrapin with the top pick, especially one that is a workout warrior. Nonetheless, many in the league have been raving about Campbell as a potential beast at left tackle, which means that Al Davis would not be alone in coveting this young tackle. But i starting to think this guy might be worth it @ #8!!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnMm7AcJ7RI

  264. Nnamdi21 Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLmSlsmlT4g

  265. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Actually, compared to Tom Cable, Gruden is not a human being. He’s a superpower.

  266. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Raiders4eve Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
    McClain reveals he has Crohn’s disease

    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 10, 2010 5:32 PM ET
    Alabama linebacker Rolando McClain’s Pro Day got off to a fine start with an expected time in the forty.

    He didn’t finish his drills, however, after getting ill. After the workout, he disclosed he has fought Crohn’s Disease since his freshman year in high school. It’s treated through medication.

    We’re amazed this information wasn’t out already, but it clearly hasn’t prevented McClain from producing. David Garrard was diagnosed with Crohn’s Disease during his career and it hasn’t slowed him down.

    Still, we wonder if this will cause teams to look at McClain any differently – positively or negatively. Perhaps the biggest knock on McClain is his inconsistent motor and effort.

    Maybe his Crohn’s Disease plays into that, maybe it doesn’t. It’s just one more piece to the puzzle for teams to figure out by April’s draft.

    ==========================

    Explains alot.

    Treatable, but dehabiltating on occasion.

    If he’s there in the 2nd, not doubt I’d take him.

  267. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    86′d from Ricky’s, Bob?

  268. Norco Bob Says:

    Nope,..but I told Ricky hes a tool for charging people to enter his sports bar.

  269. Norco Bob Says:

    And he only started that when we started winning again. Alot of black hole guys dont go there because all the sudden ricky ricardo started demanding a cover,..ridiculous.

  270. Chris in NY Says:

    CRACKRAIDER Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
    . Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland

    Some in Raider Nation may be dreading the idea of another Terrapin with the top pick, especially one that is a workout warrior. Nonetheless, many in the league have been raving about Campbell as a potential beast at left tackle, which means that Al Davis would not be alone in coveting this young tackle. But i starting to think this guy might be worth it @ #8!!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnMm7AcJ7RI

    ————————

    I agree. Campbell is no slam dunk. There’s bust potential there. However, I think with some good coaching this kid could be a beast and shouldn’t be scoffed at.

    In a pure physical sense he could be the most impressive o-lineman specimen to come out since Tony Mandarich. Of course, Mandarich was a bust but that’s mostly attributed to the fact that he was the product of steroids — which he could no longer be under the NFL’s more rigorous testing — and failed largely because he was also a bit of a screwup who didn’t give a F–k. I’ve heard no such fears about Campbell who flashes some nice actual playing abilities on tape to go with his unheard of raw size/athleticism (6-6, 315, 36 inch arms, about 35 reps on the bench, 4.8 speed).

  271. Nnamdi21 Says:

    263. Campbell’s a project. We need help NOW.

    He’s only started 17 college level games.

    Most have him going in the late 1st maybe to Cowboys at 27.

    Mayock’s got him tied for 5th best Tackle, but theri is a need and teams may reach.

    And speaking of health issues in the draft, McClains not the only one.

    Campbell has…

    “If there is a negative Campbell has besides experience, it’s a condition called Arnold-Chiari, which healthline.com describes as “a rare genetic disorder” where “some parts of the brain are formed abnormally.” Campbell said he had surgery in high school to relieve the problem and that doctors at the combine cleared him to play, but it could be the type of condition that might affect his draft status.” – Jan Hubbard, Fort Worth Star Telegram

    If HE’s there at the 2nd you take him.

  272. Norco Bob Says:

    But I avoided the biitch when Jon was there,..didnt want to spoil the vibe,…Ted Hendricks was there,…pretty scary dude up close.

  273. JB Says:

    # CRACKRAIDER Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    . Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland

    Some in Raider Nation may be dreading the idea of another Terrapin with the top pick, especially one that is a workout warrior. Nonetheless, many in the league have been raving about Campbell as a potential beast at left tackle, which means that Al Davis would not be alone in coveting this young tackle. But i starting to think this guy might be worth it @ #8!!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnMm7AcJ7RI
    **********************

    With Campbell & Gallery on the same side DMac might be able to gain a few yards. I like the way Campbell stays engaged with the rusher and grinds the opposition into the ground.

    #8 pick = Bruce Campbell

    Use the #2 pick for either a MLB or Center. #3A pick for a C or MLB. #3B pick for DT or OG.#5A pick for OG or DT. #5B pick for RB/FB. #7 pick for PR/KR.

  274. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    A little too much anger for just charging a cover, Norco. I think somebody got 86′d. Were you popping pills right at the bar? They can’t let you do that.

  275. Chris in NY Says:

    Those projections having Campbell going to the Cowboys are old news. No way this kid slips past the top 15. I wouldn’t even be shocked if he’s the 2nd OT off the board and gone before No. 8. I think he’ll still be there, but I say he goes top 7 before he slides to the 20s.

  276. Norco Bob Says:

    Nah,..I hardly ever go there,..I dont live in the east bay,..never have,…its an ok place,..but I only go to the east bay on game days,…the sports bar I hang at is Players,..sunrise/fair oaks.

  277. RaiderFanFrom Jersey Says:

    How can a guy with little to no evidence of great/elite play ON THE FIELD be considered an equivalent to a lottery pick? The measurables only show his athleticism, which is extraordinary. But shouldn’t a top 10 pick be as close to a sure thing as u can get? I dont want Campbell @ 8; if he’s there in the 2nd, then take him. Bulaga looks like he might be a winner @ 8 or Williams. No Campbell @ 8!

  278. JB Says:

    L to R – Murphy, DMac (slot WR), Campbell, Gallery, New Guy, Walker/new guy, Henderson, Miller, Schillins and Bush & a QB in the backfield. That lineup has possibilities. Everything when it’s all said and done depends on that QB position. Damn, that really is our main loose end.

  279. Norco Bob Says:

    How can ricky ricardo ask poor old Bob to pay to get in, then pay for booze and food?…come on man, why pay to get in?…theres never live music…theres an occasional legend, but bfd, I see those guys in the club on game days,…ricky ricardo is a tool and I told him so,..I actually called him a joo. Print that.

  280. Norco Bob Says:

    If those youtube links were of bruce campbell,..might want to find out if the guy who filmed it is same videographer who filmed mike mitchell. Uh oh.

  281. Norco Bob Says:

    In all fairness, I do see future greatness with mitchell. Word.

  282. NorthernD Says:

    RaiderFanFrom Jersey Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
    How can a guy with little to no evidence of great/elite play ON THE FIELD be considered an equivalent to a lottery pick? The measurables only show his athleticism, which is extraordinary.
    =======================================
    LOL
    See DHB,
    see Mike Mitchell
    see almost every Raider pick…ever

  283. JB Says:

    If Al is going to make another “measurables driven” pick, let it be OT Bruce Campbell. Better that than another CB or safety. He has to know that we absolutely must have new BIG UGLIES – a lot of them.

  284. NorthernD Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
    In all fairness, I do see future greatness with mitchell. Word.
    ============================
    I don’t get where all the praise for Mitchell comes from. There’s a ton of bloggers who think he was good last year and will be great in the future.
    I don’t see it.
    He had 16 tackles last year (Tony Stewart had 17) and 1 1/2 sacks. 0 Ints and 0 PD’s.
    He got burned in coverage and they used him mostly as a LB in passing downs, or an in the box safety on short yardage.
    He stood up for his team mates in scrap, but he’s really just an undersized LB. I doubt he will ever pan out to be a full-time safety.

  285. Norco Bob Says:

    Was hurt from Napa on,..when he finally got healthy he started stickin people…word.

  286. Chris in NY Says:

    MOCK DRAFT:

    1. Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
    2. Vladimir Ducasse, OT, UMass
    3. Navorro Bowman, LB, Penn State
    3. Mike Neal, DT, Purdue
    4. Ben Tate, RB, Auburn
    5. *RFA Troy Smith, QB, Ravens
    5. Seyi Ajirotutu, WR, Fresno State
    7. John Conner, FB, Kentucky

  287. Chris in NY Says:

    That, IMO, would be a sick draft. Could be a little optimistic since several of those guys are rising up analysts’ boards and could very well elevate out of the range I have us taking them in though.

  288. NorthernD Says:

    He looked good when he was attacking the line-of-scrimmage, but bad when he had to make plays in the secondary.
    Think back to the times where he made a big play. It was always when the play was in front of him.
    I can’t recall him making a play when the ball was in the air and he had to adjust. Or when he had to backpedal in coverage.

    I think he can fill a role, but I don’t think it will be as a full time safety.

  289. NorthernD Says:

    Chris in NY,
    Two tackles? Where would you put Henderson?

  290. Chris in NY Says:

    NorthernD Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
    Chris in NY,
    Two tackles? Where would you put Henderson?

    ——————

    Somebody would have to bump to RG, probably Ducasse.

  291. KoolKell Says:

    So far this off-season aint selling any tickets.

  292. NorthernD Says:

    They’d have the tallest O-line ever.

    If they stick with the ZBS, then I don’t think they would put Ducasse at guard. They might go with a quicker, legit guard instead.

    For my money I think Trent Williams is the better choice at 8.

  293. Norco Bob Says:

    I went to youtube to view campbell,..(I wouldnt consider clicking on a link from here),….if hes picked at 8 Im ok with it,..looks like a bad mo fo…I like the pick…will protect the little Polock very well. Print that.

  294. NorthernD Says:

    If they took Campbell I wouldn’t throw anything at my TV. He’s a typical Davis athlete, but if he sukked, they could at least move him inside like Gallery. It wouldn’t be a total waste like others.

    If they take Taylor Mays, I’m off to Best Buy for a new big screen.

  295. KoolKell Says:

    Bruce Campbell is another Al Davis prospect with very little college experience.

  296. NorthernD Says:

    With Campbell, it’s not the lack of experience that bothers me.
    He seems to be top heavy. He’s got the massive shoulders and arms. He needs to be thicker in the legs to keep his balance. The best O-linemen are just built that way.

  297. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Looks like he should be a DE.

  298. NorthernD Says:

    Exactly.

  299. Norco Bob Says:

    Thanks for that insight old kell,..that was some amazing information,..you should be on espn.

  300. NorthernD Says:

    Maybe Al will draft Campbell then spin him around to play DE. He usually tries to get one player to switch positions per draft. Maybe this year it will be Campbell.

  301. KoolKell Says:

    That’s exactly what the Raiders need, a Raw LT drafted at #8. A player with 17 career starts.

  302. NorthernD Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
    Thanks for that insight old kell,..that was some amazing information,..you should be on espn.
    ============================
    Sitting between Kiper and Theismann?

  303. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Better than Berman.

  304. Norco Bob Says:

    At least the little Polock can scramble around until Campbell becomes great. Word.

  305. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    I watched Campbells highlights, he looks good, but hey it’s a highlight film.

    I checked out Suhs’ highlights. What a beast. He is absolutely the real deal. Violent.

  306. Raiders4eve Says:

    1. Trent Williams OT
    2. Brandon Spikes MLB
    3. Mitch Petrus OG
    3. D’Anthony Smith DT
    4. Eric Olsen C
    5. Jay Ross NT
    5. Walter Thurmond CB
    7. Matt Clapp FB

  307. NorthernD Says:

    Raiders4eve,
    Like the first two.
    If anyone after the second round sticks with the team, that’s just a bonus.

  308. JB Says:

    I’m pretty much OK with most any names as long as there are at least 1-OLT, 1-C, 1-MLB, 1-OT or OG, 1 DT, 1-RB/FB, 1-KR/PR.

  309. Kirk Says:

    Please Al, draft a couple of offensive tackles.

    Please!

  310. JB Says:

    What would it take to trade up to the #2 pick assuming the #1 pick is NOT Suh? How about our #8 first plus #3B and 5B picks. Would that get it done?

  311. NorthernD Says:

    Apparently the Lions want to move out of the number 2 spot, so it would be possible to get that pick.
    You can google a draft value chart which shows how much each pick is worth in terms of points.

    Moving up to 2 from 8 would be very costly though. More than it’s worth.

  312. Raiders4eve Says:

    Nah, according to trade value chart, the second overall pick is worth 2,600 pts, our 8th overall pick is worth 1,400. We would need to give up our first, second and 2 thirds to go that high. Of course this is not necessary if a team just wants a 1st and 2nd.

  313. NorthernD Says:

    The value chart is a nice guide but it still really depends on the players involved. Having a franchise QB available would certainly drive up the price.
    I can’t see Al using a value guide to help him make his decisions though.

  314. JB Says:

    # Raiders4eve Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    Nah, according to trade value chart, the second overall pick is worth 2,600 pts, our 8th overall pick is worth 1,400. We would need to give up our first, second and 2 thirds to go that high. Of course this is not necessary if a team just wants a 1st and 2nd.
    **********************
    How about our #8 pick and our 2012 #1 pick. If we could get Suh it might be worth it.

  315. priesttj Says:

    I got one question for all you ass grabbers in here name one Olineman that the Raiders have drafted that reminds you of Bruce Campbell? Yet you continue to say he’s a Al Davis type pick so name one.

    Can anyone of you ass grabbers pull that off?

    Same l’ dumbass comments by the same ol’ dumbass loudmouths.

  316. Seymour Bush Says:

    Richochet Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    March 10th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    mistabrOwn you might want to get your GED before you start mouthing off again. Otherwise I’ll shove you up your own ass just like last night. Or better yet, go for the monkey brain transplant. It certainly couldn’t hurt.
    ——————————–
    THAT REMINDS ME….

    Oakglenn? Why don’t you want to share about you being a rock star?
    ========================================

    Are you back on the mistabrOwn hit wagon wacko? You really are wack. But the REAL question wack job is what do you do? You know my story. What’s your’s? Let me guess: internet troll

  317. Seymour Bush Says:

    You know wacky you NEVER answered the question. I have answered it dozens of times. What have YOU ever done?

  318. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Trade value chart?

  319. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I just looked up Al Davis on the trade chart and it says we can get a Beta VCR for him.

  320. Raiders4eve Says:

    JB

    it will be hard to determine, if Rams believes that the Raiders will have an awful season in 2011, then it could be done but highly unlikely

  321. Raiders4eve Says:

    MR

    u don’t that teams have trade value charts to determine what a draft pick is worth? I believe the Cowboys old Coach create it.

  322. Raiders4eve Says:

    I guess I m sleepy, I missed the word know. I meant u don’t know

  323. RaiderMario420 Says:

    2010 Oakland Raiders Mock Draft

    1. Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
    Campbell is a good sized left tackle prospect that is a bit ahead of the curve, technique wise, over most underclass linemen. He is quick to set the edge and does a good job of jamming opponents with heavy hands and can be quick to get a refit when the pass rusher slaps his hands away. He has struggled with durability in that he has yet to play in every game during a collegiate season and will need to be gone over with a fine toothed comb by team doctors. He gets a bit lazy with his techniques and can be late to recognize or react to new situations but his physical talents are undeniable and he should be quick to come off some team’s draft board.

    2. Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida
    Spikes is a big, strong physical defender that missed some time in 2009 after being suspended for a game due to an on the field incident early in the season. Spikes is best attacking the line of scrimmage and is a solid tackler in the open field. He uses his hands well to ward off blockers and leverage the ball and understands angles and run fits in the Gators defense. He is an instinctive player that is best versus the run but appears to have limitations in coverage. Spikes is quicker than fast and reacts quickly as plays develop but will need lots of technique work (especially defending the pass) at the next level. Spikes has excellent blood lines and is a good football player that brings attitude and leadership to the linebacker position.

    3. Chris Cook, CB, Virginia
    Cook has excellent size and strength for the position. He lacks great burst and pure speed to play out on an island in man coverage but is versatile enough to be effective as a rolled up defender or move inside to the safety position. Cook uses his hands well to re-route receivers off the line of scrimmage. He doesn’t have the lateral agility and quickness to stay in a top receiver’s hip pocket and he may be a liability in some schemes. Cook is a solid run support defender and an active player versus both the run and pass. Cook has great instincts and feel for route progression to make plays on the ball. His size, toughness and versatility makes him a valued commodity in this year’s draft.

    3. Carlton Mitchell, WR, South Florida
    Mitchell brings a rare combination of size and speed to this draft. He could definitely use another year in college but will be attractive to teams that are looking for a vertical passing attack thanks to his downfield speed and size. He shows a good burst coming out of his speed cuts but will chop down too much and waste steps on hard cuts for underneath routes. He has huge hands and can catch the ball in one hand at times but will try to catch too many passes in his body when he can. He is willing to go across the middle and catch the ball in traffic and is a physical blocker on the perimeter.

    4. Brandon Carter, OG, Texas Tech
    Carter is a three-year starter at guard for the Red Raiders and has played a lot of football over the years. He will show some nastiness in his blocks but sometimes lets it get personal and has been known to get flagged for penalties at inopportune times. He is a mauler and a brawler as a blocker that can smother opponents once he gets his hands on them but will struggle when reacting to movement or when in space. Carter is probably too limited, athletically, to be a top line starter in the NFL but could find a niche as a backup that could start in a pinch.

    5. A.J. Edds, OLB, Iowa
    Edds has been a productive three year starter for the Hawkeye defense. He wins with intelligence, toughness, instincts and technique rather than elite athleticism. Edds has decent range in pursuit and is aggressive to the pile. He is effective leveraging tight ends but needs added strength and power to set the edge versus larger offensive lineman. Edds needs to react quicker as route progressions unfold but has enough athleticism and instincts to be an effective zone coverage defender. He may be a liability in man schemes versus athletic tight ends and backs. Edds is a reliable open field tackler but not explosive on contact. Edds is a good football player that will likely contribute on special teams as well as giving valuable depth in his rookie season.

    7. Jeff Owens, DT, Georgia
    Owens is coming off a solid 2009 season after missing all but one game in 2008 with a knee injury. Owens is a short, squatty built but strong interior defender that is more of a run stopper than pass rusher. He can anchor well when he keeps his pads down but needs to improve his hand use to disengage quicker to the ball. Owens needs an expanded pass rush package to be effective at the next level but has the natural power to push the pocket. Owens is a tough hard-nosed lineman that has some athletic limitations but his intangibles (motor, leadership qualities) gives him a great chance to contribute in his rookie season.

  324. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Another drafted 1st Rd RB? Ummmm….I hope not!!!

  325. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, IS ANYBODY AWAKE IN ALAMEDA ? IS THIS NOT THE PRE-DRAFT,FREE-AGENT COMING AND GOING PERIOD ?

  326. hwnrdr Says:

    Based on his very bad injury/concussion he had last year….how far down the draft do you think Best will fall? Or…will he still be 1st rounder material?

  327. maddenraiderfan Says:

    I bet he will still go first round sometime. San Diego will probably grab him if they can’t get spiller.

  328. bcz24 Says:

    Mario thats a decent mock, but I dont think we need to draft another WR this year (Im not saying what we have is special by any means) and I think we HAVE to get a FB in the 7th. Draft John Conner… the future depends on it!

  329. maddenraiderfan Says:

    I really don’t think spikes will drop to our 2nd round pick. But I will be happy if he does.

  330. bcz24 Says:

    There are rumors and rumblings flying up here in Buffalo that SD is trying to trade for Marshawn Lynch.

  331. Dakota Says:

    Gooooo Lakers!

  332. Dakota Says:

    Wonderlic results:

    Bradford 36
    McCoy 25
    Clausen 23
    Tebow 22

    I think Russell scored a 24….

  333. RaiderRockstar Says:

    WALK NAKED IN AMERICA DAY

    Don’t forget to mark your calendars.

    As you may already know, it is a sin for a Musl1m males to see any woman other than his wife naked and if he does, he must commit suicide . So next Saturday at 1 PM Eastern Time, all American women are asked to walk out of their house completely naked to help weed out any neighborhood terrorists.

    Circling your block for one hour is recommended for this anti-terrorist effort.

    All patriotic men are to position themselves in lawn chairs in front of their houses to demonstrate their support for the women and to prove that they are not Musl1m terrorist sympathizers. Since Isl@m also does not approve of alcohol, a cold 6-pack at your side is further proof of your patriotism.

    The American government appreciates your efforts to root out terrorists and applauds your participation in this anti-terrorist activity.

    God bless America !

    P.S.. It is your patriotic duty to inform others. If you don’t send to at least 1 person, you’re a terrorist-sympathizing, lily-livered coward and are possibly aiding and abetting terrorists.

  334. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dakota: so whats your point?

    Clausen has small hands like Culpepper and a lower IQ than JaMarcus?

  335. MaineRaida Says:

    Dakota:

    Wonderlic results:

    Bradford 36
    McCoy 25
    Clausen 23
    Tebow 22
    I think Russell scored a 24….

    ****

    from ESPN:

    Alex Smith 40
    Matt Leinart 35
    Dan Marino 15
    Jim Kelly 15
    Donovan McNabb 14

    in other words, you wonder why they even bother with this 12 minute (!) test…

  336. MaineRaida Says:

    Rockstar,

    ugghhh….I’m not sure I’d wanna see naked what all lives here in my neighborhood…ah hell bring it on!

  337. MaineRaida Says:

    if the Wonderlic has any validity at all, I have to assume T Bradshaw got a one, maybe a two.

  338. RaiderRockstar Says:

    wow. I guess I haven’t posted since 3pm Podunk-Time on Monday … Jerry Mac has 5 new write-ups since then!

    Tuesday at 9am Podunk-Time I got sick at work. Puked in the toilet and the big cheese sent me home sick.

    worst 32 hour flu/fever I think I’ve ever had in my life. glad to be back. so let’s review what I missed …

  339. RaiderRockstar Says:

    * Tomlinson to visit the Vikings today
    * NT’s Jamal Williams & Maake Kemoeatu no longer on the market
    * Ellis & Walker cut. Warren & Carlisle still employed
    * Fargas visiting Browns since Thomas Jones signed with KC
    *Larry Johnson to visit the Redskins today and the Raiders this weekend.

    anything else?

  340. bcz24 Says:

    The wonderlic is an IQ test. Means nothing in the game of football. I bet you half the NFL Hall of Fame is filled with guys that read and write at a 5th grade level or below.

  341. Dakota Says:

    Clausen has small hands? lol His poor girlfriends!

  342. bcz24 Says:

    Welcome back RR glad you are feeling better. You missed Bob jump on a “report” that Jamarcus was in rehab,claiming he knew it to be true all along, when in fact it was sarcasm on the reports behalf. Bob says he was just fibbing, and I kinda like the guy, so I will let it slide… lol. You missed Richopoo “quote” people over and over again in an attempt to rip them to shreds, when in fact no one cares about him. So in all reality you missed nothing…

  343. MaineRaida Says:

    Bcz24:

    I bet you half the NFL Hall of Fame is filled with guys that read and write at a 5th grade level or below.

    ***

    yow…that would put hockey at 2nd or 3rd grade

  344. RaiderRockstar Says:

    * more headlines like “Gradkowski keeps grinding” and “JaMarcus has a lethargy addiction”

    * Becht re-signs with AZ after visits with Oak & SF.

    * Adam Schefter named the Raiders as 1 of 3 teams still looking for a receiver, but says none of those 3 teams have expressed interest in Terrell Owens.

    Muhsin Muhammad, Isaac Bruce, Torry Holt or Amani Toomer anyone ???

  345. RaiderRockstar Says:

    in all reality you missed nothing…

    ***

    LOL. alright BCZ

    thanks man

  346. Raider O Says:

    LMAO RR! You are stupid! lol

  347. MaineRaida Says:

    I’m sure they’ll endure his small hands in exchange for his pending massive paycheck!

  348. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Feb 26, 2010 … Among the top quarterbacks measured at the Combine, Jimmy Clausen’s were the smallest at nine inches.

    http://www.thewolverineblog.com/2010/03/02/just-for-fun-jimmy-clausens-tiny-hands/

    from BSJ’s favorite website.

  349. Dakota Says:

    lol true

  350. MaineRaida Says:

    * Adam Schefter named the Raiders as 1 of 3 teams still looking for a receiver, but says none of those 3 teams have expressed interest in Terrell Owens.

    please, no…TO would blow up our promising young corps of Chaz, Murphy etc. We’ve already been burned by Moss..

  351. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raider O …

    WALK NAKED IN AMERICA DAY

    legalize it!

  352. r8eray Says:

    Good Morning Nation!

  353. RaiderRockstar Says:

    “you are stupid”

    terrible customer service at Bank of Omerica!

  354. inonewordraider Says:

    Jano’s getting up in years, let’s get a K with the first pick

  355. Raider O Says:

    Legalize it, and let them walk naked!

    God bless American Women.

  356. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jano’s getting up in years, let’s get a K with the first pick

    ***

    sorry man. first 2 picks are reserved for Bruce Campbell & Jacoby Ford!

  357. Raider O Says:

    Customer Service?! What is that?

    We are BOO!
    We appreciate you!
    But we will F you!

    “BOO”!! Coming soon for you!

  358. Raider O Says:

    American Woman!!

    Hey Now!

  359. bcz24 Says:

    Actually I wouldn’t even be surprised is we drafted a K at 8… on the heels of paying Seabass 9mill. Par for the course in Alameda.

  360. RaiderRockstar Says:

    sign Muhsin Muhammad!

    retain Raider O as a fan 1 more year!

  361. MaineRaida Says:

    if Al has another ridiculous, baffling draft my copy of Just Win Baby is headed right for the woodstove.

    Al – your fanbase needs Customer Service – OL, DL, and naked American women in the stands

  362. inonewordraider Says:

    We need some vets that are good leaders and still have a little left in the tank ala what Seymour and Ellis did last year and Rice, Trace Armstrong have done in the past with our very young team. Mohammed Bruce or Toomer would be great for our O

  363. DMAC Says:

    Morning Nation

  364. bcz24 Says:

    MaineRaida Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 8:36 am
    if Al has another ridiculous, baffling draft my copy of Just Win Baby is headed right for the woodstove.

    Al – your fanbase needs Customer Service – OL, DL, and naked American women in the stands
    *****************************
    …and fire the Cheeseburger vendors, or Jamarshmallow. Cant keep both, cuz you are paying Jameatball to eat your Cheeseburger profits!

  365. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    LMAO!

  366. Raider O Says:

    Where is MR?!
    You are stereotyping all Muslims!
    We need MR to do the Right Thing!

  367. DMAC Says:

    Since all the other guys that I wanted are gone. Do me a great favor and sign Brad Hoover, Al!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  368. RaiderRockstar Says:

    trade the walrus for the right thing!

  369. DMAC Says:

    So are we going w/ Best in the 2nd??

  370. Raider O Says:

    Take it easy Ted Nugent!!!

    Damn you Mich!!

  371. bcz24 Says:

    Rounds 1 and 2 are going to be GREAT this year… no one forwarded the memo to Al stating 1 & 2 are in primetime on Thursday night.

  372. Raider O Says:

    DMAC,

    He has Raiders speed.

  373. DMAC Says:

    He has Allen speed.

  374. MaineRaida Says:

    >Rounds 1 and 2 are going to be GREAT this year… no one forwarded the memo to Al stating 1 & 2 are in primetime on Thursday night.

    I read that the TV ratings for the NFL draft are higher than the whole NHL playoffs COMBINED … that is crazy!

  375. bcz24 Says:

    NHL never recovered viewership from their strike in the ’90s. Its kind of sad really, I love hockey but it is so rarely televised. Although the Olympics definitely re-energized the hockey on tv market.

  376. Norco Bob Says:

    Dang, what a long night it was without all of you,…but is ok now, once I see you guys, I know Iv made it through another lonely night without my friends in here.

  377. MaineRaida Says:

    Olympics definitely; and HD TV makes for better hockey viewing…couldn’t see the damn puck back in the day

    goooo Black Bears

  378. Norco Bob Says:

    Iv been doing endless hours watchign tape,..I am now endorsing Campbell as our man at 8,..I will be in row 1 to welcome him to Oaktown,…if he pancakes a few Broncos I will buy his jersey. Whoa.

  379. DMAC Says:

    Adam Shefter reports, Raiders NT Gerard Warren is due a $5.925 million roster bonus by March 14.

    Warren is coming off a poor season as a run defender and turns 32 this summer. With Al Davis in cost-cutting mode of late, Warren’s time with the Raiders appears to be up.

  380. Norco Bob Says:

    I like Warren. Print that.

  381. MaineRaida Says:

    Campbell seems to be the popular choice on mocks and in here…bring him on! Bruuuuuuce….

  382. RaiderRockstar Says:

    great news regarding Warren DMAC!

    I also agree with your earlier post… sign FB Brad Hoover!

  383. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Bruce @ QB and Bruce @ RT = 11-5

    playoffs?

    you kiddin’ me?

    playoffs?

  384. Raider O Says:

    Warren is a joke! We gave him and TK 100 Mil in contracts. I rather see that money spent last year on Big Albert.
    We gave D Hall a 70 mil contract, and he collected 8 mil in 8 games. we could have signed peppers or Dansby this season.

  385. RaiderRockstar Says:

    “The fans are ruthless and don’t deserve a winner. I will never forget getting cheered when I was injured. I know at times I wasn’t great. I hope and pray I’m playing when my team comes to town and we roll them.”

    -Derek Anderson

    ***

    wow. I think Kell is a major scumbag, but I would never say he doesn’t deserve a winner!

  386. Raider O Says:

    Dude,

    SsShhhhhh!!! Don’t say “Bruce” please.

    Damn you Vegas!

  387. r8eray Says:

    Vegas?

  388. MaineRaida Says:

    Merlin Olsen, RIP…

    http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nfl/news/story?id=4985470

  389. Raider O Says:

    Bruce: The Great Polish Hype!

  390. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raider O:

    Bruce = the people’s qb

    get over it!

  391. DeuceDeuce Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 9:18 am
    Raider O:

    Bruce = the people’s qb

    get over it!


    I smell what the Bruce is cooking..

  392. RaiderRockstar Says:

    trade Warren, Russell and a 3rd round pick to Buffalo for Marcus Stroud & Trent Edwards!

    they are going after Dan Williams to play NT in their 3-4 defense anyways…

  393. Raider O Says:

    Is he a Great Player too? lol

  394. Norco Bob Says:

    the little Polock is the best we have , so there it is,..hes our guy. hey now.

  395. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raider O: what do you have against the polish?

    you racist!

  396. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    I know you like Huff a lot, and I think he played Very well last season. I still would trade him and our 1st to move up and draft N SUH. Draft Spikes in the 2nd, and draft an OT in the 3rd to play RT (compete with Barnes). I would give Mario another chance at LT.

  397. maddenraiderfan Says:

    If the following happened I would be a happy fan:

    Cut warren
    Trade detroit for their 1st round pick
    Draft Mccoy or Suh
    Draft Spikes in the 2nd
    Implement a 3-4 defense

  398. DeuceDeuce Says:

    QB- Gradkowski
    RB- McFadden/Bush
    FB- *Hoover
    WR- Schillens
    WR- Murphy/DHB
    TE- Miller
    LT- Henderson
    LG- Gallery
    C – Satele
    RG- *
    RT- *Campbell

  399. Raider O Says:

    RR is calling me Racist!

    LMAO

  400. maddenraiderfan Says:

    Raider O and me are on the same page apparently :)

  401. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I know you like Huff a lot, and I think he played Very well last season. I still would trade him and our 1st to move up and draft N SUH.

    ***

    Huff has been told that his job is safe and that he will be back in Oakland next season.

    I posted that little nugget from David White last week sometime …

  402. DeuceDeuce Says:

    DE- Seymour
    DT- Kelly
    DT- *
    DE- Shaughnessy
    OLB- Howard
    MLB- *Spikes
    OLB- Morrison/Scott
    CB- Asomugha
    CB- Johnson/Routt
    FS- Huff
    SS- Branch

  403. Raider O Says:

    MWfan,

    I like it, but why a 3-4 defense?

  404. maddenraiderfan Says:

    I just think its a stronger D especially with our personel. Howard, Scott and Morrison could easily fit into it if we have someone else solid (like spikes) in the middle.

  405. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raider O:

    anybody who doesn’t want Bruce starting next year is racist against the Polish, right?

    Isn’t that the same argument with Russell & black QB’s?

    it’s only fair to make a similar comparison imo.

  406. Raider O Says:

    OK RR. Trade our 1st and Kirk, TK, or TH to move up for SUH.

    The guy is a beast, and when he plays DT with Seymour in a 4-3 scheme, Matt & ? at DE, that’s a front 4 that can stop the run & rush the passer.

  407. RaiderRockstar Says:

    DE- Seymour
    DT- Kelly
    DT- Dan Williams*
    DE- Shaughnessy
    OLB- Howard
    MLB- Morrison/Brown
    OLB- Scott
    CB- Asomugha
    CB- Johnson/Routt
    FS- Huff
    SS- Branch

  408. Raider O Says:

    That’s a good and fair argument RR, but you are having it with the wrong person. KK will be here soon. lol

  409. RaiderRockstar Says:

    QB- Gradkowski
    RB- McFadden/Bush
    FB- Brad Hoover*
    WR- Schilens/Murphy
    WR- Heyward-Bey/Higgins
    TE- Miller
    LT- Henderson
    LG- Gallery
    C – Satele
    RG- 3rd rounder*
    RT- 2nd rounder*

  410. DMAC Says:

    What do you guys think of Keith Bullock?
    Too old?
    Often injured?
    Still has something left in the tank?
    Not a good fit?
    Perfect fit?
    ???????????

  411. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Trade our 1st and Kirk, TK, or TH to move up for SUH.

    ***

    Rams & Lions both need DT’s.

    I doubt they trade away a chance at one to go for Morrison, Howard or Kelly. not happening

    Morrison & Howard would need new contracts since they are both RFA’s (now tendered). Kelly’s current contract makes him virtually untradeable – like JaWalrus.

  412. maddenraiderfan Says:

    DE- Seymour
    DT- McCoy
    DE- Shaughnessy
    OLB- Howard
    MLB- Spikes
    MLB- Morrison
    OLB- Scott
    CB- Asomugha
    CB- Johnson/Routt
    FS- Huff
    SS- Branch

    Mike Mitchell could probably even come in at LB in a 3-4

  413. HairyBush Says:

    Who’s up to kidnapping Al Davis draft weekend, and doing a fund raiser to pay Mike Mayock to handle our draft? Anyone with me?

  414. Raider O Says:

    Rushing Downs:

    LDE: J Richardson
    DT: Seymour
    DT: Suh
    RDE: Matt S

    WLB: T Scott
    MLB: Spikes
    SLB: TH or Kirk

    PASSING Downs:

    LDE: Matt S
    DT: Seymour
    DT: SUH
    RDE: T Scott

    LBs: Spikes & TH or Kirk

    Get Done AL. I’m a fan of the 4-3 with diff looks.

  415. RaiderRockstar Says:

    DMAC: if some team trades a 2nd rounder to get Thomas Howard I’d take a long hard look at Keith Bullock to fill the SSLB spot.

    I think the Raiders may try to re-sign Greg Ellis at a cheaper cost before training camp too.

    Instead of $2.5 million we may get him for $1 million. Teams weren’t beating down his door last year in FA. I doubt they’d do it this year when he’s just another year older (like Terrell Owens).

    I’d rather have Ellis than Richardson or Gunheim!

    and I’d rather have Bullock than Alston or Williams!

  416. maddenraiderfan Says:

    Just say screw the OL til later in the draft.
    Build the D, once we can stop the run it’ll be one of the best in the league.

    Then stick gradkowski at QB and he won’t even care if his line sucks.

  417. DeuceDeuce Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 9:35 am
    DE- Seymour
    DT- Kelly
    DT- Dan Williams*
    DE- Shaughnessy
    OLB- Howard
    MLB- Morrison/Brown
    OLB- Scott
    CB- Asomugha
    CB- Johnson/Routt
    FS- Huff
    SS- Branch

    I like that too as a base. How bout this on passing downs.

    DE- Scott
    DT- Kelly
    DT- Seymour
    DE- Shaughnessy
    OLB- Howard
    MLB- Brown
    OLB- Morrison
    CB- Asomugha
    CB- Johnson/Routt
    FS- Huff
    SS- Branch

  418. r8eray Says:

    STOP THE RUN!!

  419. DMAC Says:

    Yeah, I think they try and bring back Ellis at a cheaper price. (liked his veteran presence)

  420. DeuceDeuce Says:

    maddenraiderfan Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 9:41 am
    DE- Seymour
    DT- McCoy
    DE- Shaughnessy
    OLB- Howard
    MLB- Spikes
    MLB- Morrison
    OLB- Scott
    CB- Asomugha
    CB- Johnson/Routt
    FS- Huff
    SS- Branch

    Mike Mitchell could probably even come in at LB in a 3-4

    Vomit.
    That would be the lightest and smallest 3-4 line ever. Our run D would be even worse.

    No 3-4. at all.

  421. DeuceDeuce Says:

    DMAC Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 9:48 am
    Yeah, I think they try and bring back Ellis at a cheaper price. (liked his veteran presence)


    Report yesterday said Ellis was open to going back to Dallas.

  422. NorthernD Says:

    It’s gotta be Trent Williams over Bruce Campbell.

    Williams started on the left and right side. He has three years of starting. He played against better competition.

    Look at the combine results. Campbell ran a slightly fatser 40, but Williams was faster in all the other positional drills. He has quicker feet and is more agile than Campbell. If Campbell didn’t come out this year, everyone would be talking about how athletic Williams was.

    Most importantly he is thicker in the legs. Campbell has huge shoulders and upper body which makes him top heavy and easier to throw off balance. Williams has a lower center of balance, allowing him to set against bull rushers in the passing game. He is also more agile, allowing him to redirect quicker against speed rushers.

    There are the reasons why Williams would be a better pick at 8. He has played both sides, he’s just as athletic, and he has a body type more suitable for the position. So don’t be disappointed if they call out Williams name first at the draft. In fact, don’t be surprised if they call out Williams’ name before the Raiders even get to select.

  423. HairyBush Says:

    Dissapointed D. Mason resigned with Ravens. Could have been just the right vet with no baggage.

    Sounds like Cincy hasn’t given up on T.O. even though they signed Bryant. I’m a little jealous, could be quite the amusing trio.

  424. Raider O Says:

    I would sign K Bulluck and Ellis too.
    Bulluck has a few years left, and Ellis is good for 1 more season. IMO

  425. DeuceDeuce Says:

    NorthernD Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 9:50 am
    It’s gotta be Trent Williams over Bruce Campbell.


    True. Hopefully hes still there…

    Okung
    Williams
    Davis
    Baluga
    Campbell

    Gotta have 1 of these.

  426. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I like that too as a base. How bout this on passing downs.

    DE- Scott
    DT- Kelly
    DT- Seymour
    DE- Shaughnessy
    OLB- Howard
    MLB- Brown
    OLB- Morrison
    CB- Asomugha
    CB- Johnson/Routt
    FS- Huff
    SS- Branch

    ***

    I like the thought of havign Trevor Scott rushing the passer on 3rd & long or other obvious passing downs. But I’d leave him at WLB and have him rush from there. Morrison is much better in pass defense than Ricky Brown. He’s got the speed as long as Marshall doesn’t go into prevent mode and put the defense on their heels. Shaughnessy/Kelly/Bryant/Seymour is good pressure from the front 4. then you got Scott coming off the edge? SACK!!!

  427. maddenraiderfan Says:

    Seriously, since when has Al drafted fast O-lineman?

    We are either going to trade up for a NT or we are going to draft Bulaga.

  428. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Raider O Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 9:53 am
    I would sign K Bulluck and Ellis too.
    Bulluck has a few years left, and Ellis is good for 1 more season. IMO

    —-
    Id rather have Pierce or Clark and Ellis.

    We need a MLB more than a OLB

  429. DeuceDeuce Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 9:53 am

    —-
    Forgot about Dez Bryant. Yea.

  430. DeuceDeuce Says:

    maddenraiderfan Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 9:53 am
    Seriously, since when has Al drafted fast O-lineman?

    We are either going to trade up for a NT or we are going to draft Bulaga.

    Theres no way in hell were trading up. And if we do it would be a mistake. Makes no sense at all.

  431. DMAC Says:

    Dez Bryant is this years Crabby, but not so hyped. He’ll be better than Crabby IMO.

  432. DeuceDeuce Says:

    and since when have there been fast o-lineman?

  433. maddenraiderfan Says:

    Oh, I don’t think we will trade up either, but I bet we will draft Bulaga.

  434. DeuceDeuce Says:

    DMAC Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 9:57 am
    Dez Bryant is this years Crabby, but not so hyped. He’ll be better than Crabby IMO.


    I was talkin bout OUR Dez but ya.

    I think hes not as hyped cuz theres not as much drama around him….yet.

  435. Raider O Says:

    If the Ravens can improve their CBs, they can be a great team next season.

    The team needed a WR and CBs. They traded for a WR and didn’t give much for him, so all they need now are CBs.

    You have to appreciate what Ozzie N does for that team.

  436. DMAC Says:

    My bad. I forgot we got our own Bryant.

  437. DeuceDeuce Says:

    maddenraiderfan Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 9:58 am
    Oh, I don’t think we will trade up either, but I bet we will draft Bulaga.

    Maybe if hes the only OT left. And then that would depend what great talent is available. Al might be burned by the whole Gallery thing.

  438. DMAC Says:

    Al loves speed. How about Willie Parker??

  439. r8eray Says:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/360154-2010-mock-draft-oakland-raiders-edition-40#page/1

  440. DeuceDeuce Says:

    r8eray Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 10:03 am
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/360154-2010-mock-draft-oakland-raiders-edition-40#page/1

    —-
    wish i could click…..im at work

  441. DMAC Says:

    Posted yesterday R8rey. I likes.

  442. DMAC Says:

    Bring in Osi.

  443. r8eray Says:

    Swap 1st RD with the NY Giants and get Osi!

  444. r8eray Says:

    Osi and draft Bruce Campell!

  445. DMAC Says:

    (McDonald interview)
    Q: What are some other positions of need?

    Cable: For us right now probably working a little bit on the line of scrimmage and the secondary and some things like that.
    ============================================
    Al will draft a DB for sure in the first three rounds.

  446. DeuceDeuce Says:

    r8eray Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 10:07 am
    Osi and draft Bruce Campell!


    Seems cool if we can get what we want with a trade down. But OSi would take away from Shaugnasty time.

  447. DMAC Says:

    Start Osi and rotate w/ Shaugnessy.

  448. DeuceDeuce Says:

    DMAC Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 10:14 am
    Start Osi and rotate w/ Shaugnessy.

    Or rotate Seymour, Kelly, Osi, Shaugnessy, Bryant

  449. r8eray Says:

    No matter what way you look at it, you get two starters out of the trade!!

  450. DMAC Says:

    The thing that really makes this possible is Osi loved Waffle at NY.

  451. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Osi didnt start last year

  452. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I know trade value charts exist and that teams use them, what I was laughing at was fans walking around with them.

  453. DMAC Says:

    We’ll probably have to throw in a late rounder, but I still love the possible trade.

  454. bcz24 Says:

    No way Perry Fewell is giving up Osi…

  455. DeuceDeuce Says:

    DMAC Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 10:21 am
    The thing that really makes this possible is Osi loved Waffle at NY.


    ya…

    would be nice

  456. DMAC Says:

    Injured.

  457. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Newsflash: You have to have maniacs playing LB to run a 3-4, who can play the run. I don’t understand why you guys refuse to see it. You have to build in the trenches first. You can’t just switch to a 3-4 because it seems neat.

  458. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Is Osi solid vs the run??

  459. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Quien es mas macho? Tom Cable o Jon Gruden?

  460. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You guys are discussing what kind of tires to put on a car when the engine is on fire. Is there anyone here willing to discuss the things that really have to be done in order for this team to win again?

  461. Norco Bob Says:

    MR,..Im all for Campbell at 8,..you?…he can get his shyt together for a year while the little Polock scrambles around,..you agree?

  462. DMAC Says:

    IMO, Osi is solid all around.

  463. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Bo, Cable can kick Sean Payton’s ass, too. So would it be a good idea for the Saints to fire Payton and bring in Cable?

  464. DeuceDeuce Says:

    DMAC Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 10:24 am
    Injured.

    Coaches choice. Thats why he said if he doesnt start he wants out.

  465. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Cable can probably take Whisenhunt, Childress, Belichick….What is the point? What does a head coach’s ability to win a fist fight have to do with his ability to coach? Some of the greatest coaches in history wouldn’t last a second in a fight. Only Raider fans…

  466. DeuceDeuce Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 10:26 am
    You guys are discussing what kind of tires to put on a car when the engine is on fire. Is there anyone here willing to discuss the things that really have to be done in order for this team to win again?


    like…build the lines. anything else is not as important

  467. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Cable’s problem is that he can’t stand up to Al Davis. Randy Hanson isn’t the reason we’re losing. Cable needs to attack Al Davis and threaten to kill him.

  468. bcz24 Says:

    There is no reason to shift to a 3-4. The best run defense’s in the league run a 4-3. I am totally on board with you RMR… it is silly to even consider switching to a 3-4. Scheme is not the problem, personal is. If we were floundering because we had a bunch of 3-4 guys trying to play a 4-3 I would be on board. Over pursuit and inability to shed blocks are not scheme problems

  469. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Build the lines, front 7 on defense (need a few more run stoppers), a quarterback, a real head coach, a real coaching staff…These are all vital areas where we’re lacking right now, and no back or receiver is going to suffice for it, no matter how talented.

  470. Norco Bob Says:

    MR,..come on dude,…we all know Randy and Toms ex deserved it,…print that.

  471. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You need suicidal linebackers to run a 3-4. DBs, too. Think Troy P. Our linebackers and DBs are background dancers in music videos.

  472. Norco Bob Says:

    I have a great idea to place a banner in my end zone,..now that Im finally in row 1, I can place a cool banner,…how bout…” Bring back Chucky”…can have it there, all season long,…you guys like it?

  473. Norco Bob Says:

    Kirk and Thomas both gone bud.

  474. r8eray Says:

    Bob…..write it down, take a picture…I don’t give a fudge!

  475. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I like it, Bob. Hey now.

  476. DMAC Says:

    Hey Bob,
    Wassup w/ the A’s opener?

  477. Norco Bob Says:

    Sadly, the folks up in box 43 cant see it from where they sit,..but obviously they will know its there…I know of a great outfit that makes the best banners, over on El Camino and Howe ave,…they may even do it for free, or maybe for a pair of game tix…look for it in 2010. Print that.

  478. Norco Bob Says:

    Wassup is I will be there, lots of beer and pot and dogs,…we will be in A lot,…listen for the metal. Word.

  479. Norco Bob Says:

    I emailed Jeff B in Alameda, about my Chcuky banner,…I talk to him occasionally,..at Ravens game I was all f`d up in the west side club,..I was pleading with him to do whatever it took to bring Jon back,..he told me they all love him and wished he never left,…but he told me that ship has sailed,..I told him Im not giving up. Hey now.

  480. DeuceDeuce Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 10:32 am
    Build the lines, front 7 on defense (need a few more run stoppers), a quarterback, a real head coach, a real coaching staff…These are all vital areas where we’re lacking right now, and no back or receiver is going to suffice for it, no matter how talented.


    Yes, yes, no, no. Coaches arent the problems.

  481. inonewordraider Says:

    Al’s going with who he thinks is the best player available. If the DT’s avail aren’t better than Kelly and Warren in his eyes he won’t get em. If the T avail aren’t better than Henderson in his eyes he’s not drafting a RT w/ first pick. If Suh, Mccoy, Okung, Williams, or Bradford are there he’ll get em. Neither will likely be there so he’ll turn his attention to Berry or Pierre

  482. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Asomugha and Berry at the CBs would be dope also…

  483. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Coaches are the problems. We have a no name as head coach who was under a criminal investigation last season. He improved the team by absolutely zero games from last year. Duece Duece, you’re in denial. I know you want to see Al succeed but you have to be realistic. It’s not going to happen until he hires a real coach or GM and settles down.

  484. ottocrat Says:

    Raider Rapelisberger! Cut, print, check the gate, take it to the bank!

  485. Richochet Says:

    Kind of funny knowing that out of the hundreds and hundreds of hours some of you spend predicting who the Raiders need/might draft, that Al won’t pick any of your choices..

    Now..is that cool, or what?

    Al Davis: “We don’t care if it makes sense, we just make sure we do what you never thought would happen..after all, I’m Al.”

  486. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    A head coach’s job is to put his team in the best possible situation to win. Explain to me how Tom Cable has done that thus far, Deuce.

  487. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Quein es mas macho? MR o KoolKell?

  488. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Quein es mas macho? Bo Schembechler o Elmer Fudd?

  489. bcz24 Says:

    I think we have some of the best assistant coaches we have had since Chucky left. Hue and Marshall (all may be for naught since their input is as meaningful as a cloudy in japan to al)

  490. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Tom Cable…took a team from 5-11 to 5-11. That’s a 0% improvement, for those keeping score. Was under a criminal investigation last season, is now facing a civil suit. This is a team that’s been marred by chaos in recent years, heck, for a decade, if you listen to former players, and now we have a coach being sued for physical assault. He’ll probably have to leave practice to make court appearances. Nice. Nothing chaotic about that. “Alright, guys, one more and we’ll wrap it up for the day. I have a court appearance”. This is the NFL. Imagine Payton or Whisenhunt or Childress having to leave a bunch of practices early to meet with a lawyer because they were being sued for attacking someone? Just to give you an idea of how chaotic our situation is. Oh, did I mention Cable improved the team by absolutely zero wins from the previous season?

  491. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Jon Gruden was a no name coach, so was John Madden when Al hired him. I’m not saying Cable is either of these two great coaches. I don’t think the fact that he is a no name makes him a bad coach. I remember when Fassel took the play calling duties from Sean Payton. Does that mean he is a bad coach?

  492. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    The best assistant coaches? ha ha!! I’d love to see some examples to make your case, that our assistant coaches are “some of the best”. ha ha ha ha! Start with Jim Marshall. Compare and contrast him with other defensive coordinators around the league. Go ahead and include his defensive stats from last year. I need a laugh.

  493. Norco Bob Says:

    Im supporting Cable,..would rather have my beloved Gruden back,..but until then Cables my boy,..I love what he did to hanson and that ex pig of his. Print that.

  494. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Buddy Ryan hit Kevin Gilbride on the sideline of a nationally televised game. And no one pressed charges. Because they were both men.

  495. DeuceDeuce Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 10:49 am
    A head coach’s job is to put his team in the best possible situation to win. Explain to me how Tom Cable has done that thus far, Deuce.

    —-
    You can honestly say we were right there in 3 or 4 games and Cable blew it? He was holding, or took a sack, or dropped a ball, or missed the tackle?

  496. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Jon Gruden was not a no name coach. Several teams were interested in him. Stop lying, Ghost.

  497. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Deuce Deuce, did we win those games or lose them?

  498. Norco Bob Says:

    Im outta here, heading to the river,…Sailor Bar,..for those close enough to know, thats off Winding and kind of close to Hazel,..cya.

  499. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    A lot of games are close, Deuce. You lose 16 games, and they’re all close. Nail biters. You’re still 0-16. This is a profession, Deuce. Not little league.

  500. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    We need a coach who wins those close games, Deuce, not loses him. It doesn’t matter that the coach isn’t on the field. It’s about accountability, from top to bottom. You blame players, you blame coaches, you blame the gm, and owners with any kind of integrity whatsoever will blame themselves. Problem is, ours has no such integrity.

  501. DeuceDeuce Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 11:01 am
    A lot of games are close, Deuce. You lose 16 games, and they’re all close. Nail biters. You’re still 0-16. This is a profession, Deuce. Not little league.

    Theres a difference in losing them with a bad play call or time management and losing them with a fugg up from a player.

  502. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Lets see the list of all the teams that we’re interested in young Jon Gruden?

  503. Richochet Says:

    There are more pressing issues on the table.

    Like how long as Kelli been a racist scumbag?

    How many handles Oakglen/Seymour is currently posting as?

    If winning a bingo championship is everything Lil Beeech thought it would be?

    If Nnamdi still has nightmares about Cable “setting up JR..HE DID…HE DIIIIIIDDDDDD!!!!!”?

    If TJ ever admits the closest he’s ever come to any ’scouts/front office’ is when he empties the parking lot dumpsters of recyclables?

    If MR ever admits that jersey hidden way down in the bottom drawer, under all the comic books, is really a Russell jersey, extra small?

    If LA to the Bay honestly expects everyone who doesn’t have mad love for Al is going to become a SD fan?

    If Debo really believes that everyone doesn’t know he’s Oakglen/seymour?

    On that note, if Oakglen/Seymour is going to bring back Captain Black for a guest appearance?

    If 4eva is going to ever post another shopping list of the day?

    If Kell is ever going to admit that his silly page on Kane and Companies web site is an embarrassment to all kindergarten level web designers?

    As well, that his wife isn’t “surveying” that she’s standing there, holding Kell’s purse, staring blankly?

    If Oakglen/Seymour going to tell all how he got a bank to loan an unemployed student money to buy a house, that his answer of “how do you know I’m not a rock star at 18″ is suspect, at best?

    Does Norco Bobbo REALLY take everything he says he does, or is it another dangled carrot, designed to solicit a response/reaction?

    Does Bree the Flea really soil himself at the mere mention of…gasp…*the MAFIA*??..and is he really “busy” or is he banned, yet again??

    These..and so many more, are the pressing issues…

    Ok..maybe they’re not…but they could be :mrgreen:

  504. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Week 1 vs Chargers – Refs got us.
    Week 8 vs Chargers – Oline got us.
    Week 10 vs Chiefs – DHB got us.
    Week 17 vs Ravens – Oline/Dline got us.

    4 winable games. Puts us at 9-7.

  505. DeuceDeuce Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 11:03 am
    We need a coach who wins those close games, Deuce, not loses him. It doesn’t matter that the coach isn’t on the field. It’s about accountability, from top to bottom. You blame players, you blame coaches, you blame the gm, and owners with any kind of integrity whatsoever will blame themselves. Problem is, ours has no such integrity.


    I understand what your saying.

  506. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Who put that player in the game, Duece? If it happens once, sure. If it keeps happening, it’s the guy who’s putting those players in the game. You’re holding everyone accountable except for Tom Cable, Deuce. Why? Is it his job to basically stand there with his thumb up his ass and collect a check?

  507. DeuceDeuce Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 11:08 am
    Who put that player in the game, Duece? If it happens once, sure. If it keeps happening, it’s the guy who’s putting those players in the game. You’re holding everyone accountable except for Tom Cable, Deuce. Why? Is it his job to basically stand there with his thumb up his ass and collect a check?


    Exactly. Who did put that player in the game? Show me your proof it was Cable. Until then….?

  508. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Cable attacked Randy Hanson, Deuce. How many balls did he drop? How many blocks did Hanson miss?

  509. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    If Cable didn’t put the players in the game, who did? What is Cable’s job, exactly? To cheer them on? If that’s it, then he didn’t cheer hard enough. We need a coach who can cheer better than him. He’s not cutting it. Everyone is accountable, Deuce. Everyone. That’s how it is in the professional world.

  510. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Now Real Madden Raider was in the room during the Hanson and Cable incident.

  511. DeuceDeuce Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 11:11 am
    If Cable didn’t put the players in the game, who did? What is Cable’s job, exactly? To cheer them on? If that’s it, then he didn’t cheer hard enough. We need a coach who can cheer better than him. He’s not cutting it. Everyone is accountable, Deuce. Everyone. That’s how it is in the professional world.


    Unless your that ignorant then you know things dont go here how the ‘real world’ thinks they should.

  512. DeuceDeuce Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 11:10 am
    Cable attacked Randy Hanson, Deuce. How many balls did he drop? How many blocks did Hanson miss?


    What does that have to do with his coaching ability again?

  513. Ghost to the Post Says:

    I’m still waiting for the list of all the teams that were dying to hire Gruden?

  514. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Ghost, you don’t believe Cable attacked Hanson?

  515. Ghost to the Post Says:

    I wasn’t there? I don’t know.

  516. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I don’t understand your point about how things work here, Duece. Everyone is accountable no matter how things work in Oakland. I don’t care what Al Davis’s way is. Everyone is accountable. He, anyone below him involved with any kind of football related decisions, Tom Cable, the coaching staff, the players. The fans however are NOT responsible, but I’ll bet you blame some of them before you blame Al. I know that’s how it works in Oakland. lol.

  517. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I didn’t ask you if you knew, Ghost, I asked you what you believed. Do you or do you not believe that Cable attacked him?

  518. DeuceDeuce Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 11:18 am
    I don’t understand your point about how things work here, Duece. Everyone is accountable no matter how things work in Oakland. I don’t care what Al Davis’s way is. Everyone is accountable. He, anyone below him involved with any kind of football related decisions, Tom Cable, the coaching staff, the players. The fans however are NOT responsible, but I’ll bet you blame some of them before you blame Al. I know that’s how it works in Oakland. lol.

    The only one you can blame is Al. Period. He is the one who assembles everything. He is the GM.

  519. Ghost to the Post Says:

    The authorities and the league all investigated the matter and Cable was not arrested or charged in the matter.

  520. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I didn’t say anyone was dying to hire Gruden. I said other teams were interested. I’ll look up some articles pre 1998 on Gruden. Hang tight, liar. I’m about to expose your ass. Remember, you said Gruden was a “no name”. Your words. You’re about to get punked big time.

  521. DeuceDeuce Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 11:18 am
    I didn’t ask you if you knew, Ghost, I asked you what you believed. Do you or do you not believe that Cable attacked him?

    Has nothing to do with his coaching ability wether he hit him or not.

    Its like saying Tiger sucks as a golfer cuz he cheats on his wife.

  522. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Ghost to the Post Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 11:20 am
    The authorities and the league all investigated the matter and Cable was not arrested or charged in the matter.

    Glove dont fit!!!!

    THE END.

  523. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    A lot of these articles are pay per view, so I’m just going to copy and paste the headlines, and leave the link to the google search page.

    49ERS GIVE MARIUCCI FIVE IT’S A DEAL: HE’LL RECEIVE AT LEAST …
    $2.95 – San Jose Mercury News – NewsBank – Jan 17, 1997
    It is known the team is interested in Philadelphia’s Jon Gruden, who desperately wants to leave the Eagles and Ricky Watters but is one of two assistants …

    PARCELLS’ TOP AIDE MAY COACH JETS ON INTERIM BASIS
    $2.95 – Boston Globe – NewsBank – Feb 4, 1997
    Carroll is thought to be very interested in Philadelphia offensive coordinator Jon Gruden, but thus far the Eagles have not granted Gruden permission to …
    Carroll, Patriots working on contract; Team is… – The Sun – ProQuest Archiver (Pay-Per-View)
    All 210 related – Related web pages

    LIONS INTERESTED IN THOMAS TO REPLACE FONTES
    $2.95 – Press of Atlantic City, The – NewsBank – Jan 2, 1997
    Ironically, Eagles offensive coordinator Jon Gruden has also been mentioned as a candidate to succeed Wayne Fontes. Detroit will have to get in line to talk …

    Shell, Simmons join staff The Atlanta Journal and The Atlanta…
    Pay-Per-View – Atlanta Journal-Constitution – NewsBank – Feb 4, 1997
    Apparently, Reeves is interested in Philadelphia offensive coordinator Jon Gruden, one of the NFL’s marquee assistants. Despite a reportedly deteriorating …
    All 14 related – Related web pages

    T’S TUNA, NOT LATER, FOR JETS
    New York Daily News – Feb 9, 1997
    … originally told Vermeil he was not interested in coming out of retirement, … each wanted Eagles offensive coordinator Jon Gruden to run their offense. …
    All 221 related – Related web pages

    http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=interested+in+Jon+Gruden&as_user_ldate=1996&as_user_hdate=1997&scoring=a&hl=en&ned=us&sa=N&start=20

    ………………….

    So, you see how much of a “no name” Gruden was before coming here. Liar.

  524. Ghost to the Post Says:

    He is definately the lead in everyone of those articles. I’m impressed.

  525. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Al is one of the people to blame. Obviously Al’s the only one who can fire Cable, and he’s certainly responsible for that. You said the coaches aren’t the problem. Now you’re saying the coaches have no say as to who goes into the lineup? That’s sounds like a problem to me. A coach being a spineless puppet is a problem.

  526. Ghost to the Post Says:

    He was a no name coach. And I said it again. He wasn’t in line for one of the Head coaching jobs.

  527. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Ghost, you said Gruden was a “no name”. You lied. And those articles are proof of it. His “name” is all over them, and the articles predate Gruden’s hiring in Oakland.

  528. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    He was not a no name coach, moron. He was a primary head coaching candidate in ‘96 and ‘97. That was just the first page I searched. Just what is your definition of a “no name coach”?

  529. Ghost to the Post Says:

    So the league and the authorities all let Cable off the hook because he was guilty? Your awesome Real Madden Raider with all your knowledge I’m impressed with your knowledge.

  530. Ghost to the Post Says:

    He didn’t have head coaching credentials prior to joining the Oakland Raiders.

  531. Ghost to the Post Says:

    No name, no name, no name.

  532. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Ghost, why do you lie about Gruden being a “no name”? Is it to give the impression that Al can spot coaching talent? With Madden, you have a case. But according to Madden’s side of the story, his ambition is just as much to credit for it. Al wanted someone to step up in Rauch’s place, and Madden did. Al didn’t exactly go out and find Madden. He already worked for the team and showed a level of enthusiasm the other assistants didn’t have. Al was likely to hire any other no name. Madden’s ambition is what made him stand out, not Al’s keen eye for talent. Al’s a fraud, and you’re a liar.

  533. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Tell me again how when you play madden and use only one safety how effective it is Madden?

  534. DeuceDeuce Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 11:31 am
    Al is one of the people to blame. Obviously Al’s the only one who can fire Cable, and he’s certainly responsible for that. You said the coaches aren’t the problem. Now you’re saying the coaches have no say as to who goes into the lineup? That’s sounds like a problem to me. A coach being a spineless puppet is a problem

    And the coaches arent the problem. I didnt say they didnt have say as to who goes in. Read what I typed. I said ‘who’ makes that decision…..as in Who? You dont know…I dont know who makes that decision…It could be a mix of both the owner and coaches..

  535. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    What are head coaching credentials, idiot? Everyone has to start somewhere. Jon Gruden was a successful and sought after offensive coordinator, who was mentioned several times for head coaching jobs, before he was ever interviewed by Davis. Cable was an offensive line coach, nothing more, right up until we hired him. You are clueless. Your desperation to make Al look smart is making you look like a dumbass. I’d let it go.

  536. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Nice, Ghost, Change the subject when you get owned. Tell me again how Gruden was a no name, so I can pull up 20 more news articles pre 1998 on a google search.

  537. vegas raider Says:

    Today is one of the greatest sports gambling days of them all.

    I love it!!! College hoops tickets up to my eyeballs.

    I bet Bruce could pick some winners.

  538. Ghost to the Post Says:

    No you wouldn’t. You are the biggest idiot on this blog about not letting things go. And he was a no name coach in the league. Also, Al owns the Raiders and I root for the Raiders. Hence I hope we get lucky in the draft and at spotting talent in head coaches. How about Lane Kiffin. He was a real hot commodity before Al hired him. YOU LIAR.

  539. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    An organization where nobody knows or takes credit for who plays? EVERYONE involved with football operations is part of the problem in an organization like that, especially when they lose as much as we do, certainly the head coach included.

  540. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Gruden was nobody when Al found him, and Al’s team returned him to nobody status when they beat the Bucs. Worse than nobody actually – his players ripped him immediately after he was FIRED.

  541. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    He was such a no name coach that his name was all over the news as a head coaching candidate. You are a complete idiot.

  542. Ghost to the Post Says:

    No name, no name, No name. Your jealous of Al aren’t you Real Madden Raider?

  543. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Ha ha! When did Al “find” Gruden? Read the headlines I googled. You guys are living in your own world!

  544. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Thanks Bo

  545. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Gruden was a big name, very popular before he came here. And, no, I’m not jealous of a perpetually losing sports owner who has 2 legs and one arm in the grave.

  546. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Reality, Reality

  547. vegas raider Says:

    They offered a second-round tender and so it’s still free agency going on, so there’s other teams out there, but in my heart, I want to be in Oakland. I believe I’ll be in Oakland and I’d like to be here for years to come. I just feel a good presence here.”

    -Bruce Gradkowski

    *****************************************

    I feel it too buddy!!!

    As a wise man once stated on here:

    “They laughed at Jesus too”

    Later people!!!

  548. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Go watch the tape from the day when Al hired Jon Gruden on ESPN?

  549. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You guys just like to say things to make Al DAvis look good. That’s why Ghost to the Post totally made up the idea that Gruden was a no name before he came here. Of course, then he backpedals and tries to say, “no name coach”, which isn’t true, either. Gruden was all over the news after the ‘96 season as well as the ‘97 season. He was one of the most popular offensive coordinators in the league and was mentioned several times as a candidate to refill HC positions. Before he’d ever stepped foot in Oakland. Ghost to the Post is a liar, and he’s exposed. What a moron.

  550. Ghost to the Post Says:

    You wish I would expose myself to you don’t you?

  551. DeuceDeuce Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 11:44 am
    Gruden was a big name, very popular before he came here. And, no, I’m not jealous of a perpetually losing sports owner who has 2 legs and one arm in the grave.

    So why didnt any of those teams hire him?

  552. Ghost to the Post Says:

    No name coach, no name coach, no name coach.

  553. DeuceDeuce Says:

    surely the lowly Raiders and theyre horrible Owner werent the best option…

  554. KoolKell Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 11:42 am

    Gruden was nobody when Al found him, and Al’s team returned him to nobody status when they beat the Bucs. Worse than nobody actually – his players ripped him immediately after he was FIRED.
    ——————————
    Players, Media, Fans, NFL Execs rip the Raiders all the time.

    This is the kind of intellectual dishonesty you specialize in, Bo.

  555. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Al FOUND Gruden. It is an inescapable fact. He was a no name nobody, and left the Raiders as a vastly overrated coach who promptly began driving the Bucs into a ditch. He will never win anything with his own team – he needs a good GM/owner. He proved that in Tampa. Read the articles if you need to.

  556. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I posted articles that prove he was sought after before he came here. Why do I need to watch a video from when he was hired here? Is there some doofus on there who works for the team, who says, “And Al Davis founded him, nobody knew of him beforehand”. I’m sure the anchors were laughing their asses off, too.

  557. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Yeh, Bo, an inescapable fact…debunked by the headlines I linked to. And, more are on the way. I’m going to make asses out of you guys all day today. Just keep saying Gruden was a nobody before Al hired him.

  558. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    And Gruden also cost us the tuck rule game. Too conservative to win anything except when playing with another coaches hand-built defense against his old offense.

  559. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Going to lunch. With a no name coach. See ya.

  560. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Duece, Ghost to the Post said that Gruden was a “no name”. If he’d merely said that nobody hired him before coming here, this argument would be over. What I’m disputing is his claim that Gruden was a “no name”, along the lines of Tom Cable. That was b.s., and that’s what I’m taking him to task for. It looks like Bo wants to get humiliated too. He’s another glutton for punishment. More google news searches on the way. Hang tight, liars.

  561. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Davis and Gannon and Trestman propped Gruden up, and he predictably flopped in TB without them. Plus he sucks on ESPN.

  562. KoolKell Says:

    Al Davis is 29-83 since Gruden.

  563. vegas raider Says:

    I thought Gruden wasn’t that great of a gameday manager. Never wowed me as a great strategist. Callahan had a more creative offense the year after Gruden left.

    But his teams have always been prepared to play on Sunday, week in and week out. It was a breath of fresh air. It took Callahan about 30 games once Jon left for the staleness of the Raider organization to finally overtake him.

    OK, now I’m gone…..

  564. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    MR, you will need to find an article where a GM/owner is quoted saying “we wanted Gruden for HC before Oakland gave him the job”.

    Good luck liar. He was as unknown as a NFL OC can be.

  565. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    How ironic that Gannon won the MVP after shedding the horrible gameplans Gruden drew up. Trestman was the brains behind the Chucky face.

  566. Richochet Says:

    # DeuceDeuce Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 11:21 am

    Ghost to the Post Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 11:20 am
    The authorities and the league all investigated the matter and Cable was not arrested or charged in the matter.

    Glove dont fit!!!!

    THE END.
    =======================
    Dumb and Dumber.
    Which is who?

    League reacted to the judicial decision.

    Judicial decision to not proceed was because the WITNESSES ALL WORKED FOR THE DEFENDANT IN THE CASE, AND THE PROSECUTOR ALREADY KNEW THEY WERE NOT GOING TO TESTIFY AND LOSE THEIR JOB.

    It’s basic simple logic.

    Don’t abuse the right to be stupid, guys.

    In a civil trial? Cable is hosed…guaranteed.
    Different rules..only need 7 out of 12 to agree that what Hanson claimed happened, likely happened.

    And stupid of you to run the “glove don’t fit” angle…because OJ WAS FOUND GUILTY IN THE CIVIL TRIAL..just like Cable will be.

  567. vegas raider Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 11:54 am
    Al Davis is 29-83 since Gruden.

    **************************

    Incorrect.

    Your favorite statistic starts conventiently one-year after Gruden.

  568. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    SEIFERT HAS SOME REGRET, MUCH PRAISE FOR WATTERS
    $2.95 – Philadelphia Inquirer – NewsBank – Dec 27, 1996
    Offensive coordinator Jon Gruden’s name keeps surfacing. … Gruden last winter as a possible offensive coordinator, but Gruden wasn’t interested. …
    PLAYOFF KEY FOR 49ERS: RATTLING RICKY WATTERS – San Jose Mercury News – NewsBank ($2.95)
    REUNION BY THE BAY RICKY WATTERS, WHO SIGNED WITH… – Grand Forks Herald – NewsBank ($2.95)
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    HE ISN’T DRAGGIN’ OF HIS REIGN IN SPAIN, BICKNELL MAINLY CAN’T …
    $2.95 – Boston Globe – NewsBank – May 25, 1997
    I understand that they’re more interested in when the ice went out than the World …. trying to hire offensive coordinator Jon Gruden away from the Eagles. …
    Related web pages

    Falcons test always prepared Eagles
    Augusta Chronicle – Dec 13, 1997
    Reeves offered his offensive coordinator job to Jon Gruden and his defensive … he did with that offense, I was very much interested in him,” Reeves said. …
    All 41 related – Related web pages

    Steeler named head of Bengals defense Series: NFL
    Pay-Per-View – St. Petersburg Times – ProQuest Archiver – Jan 18, 1997
    … and the Rams also are interested in recently retired 49ers coach George … offensive coordinator Jon Gruden for its vacant head-coaching position, …
    All 6 related – Related web pages

    Pay-Per-View – Milwaukee Journal Sentinel – HighBeam Research – May 17, 1997
    “I’m highly interested in the possibility,” Rambis said. … to talk to Eagles offensive coordinator Jon Gruden about their head-coaching vacancy. …
    Related web pages

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    Pay-Per-View – Chicago Sun-Times – HighBeam Research – Dec 28, 1997
    Philadelphia Eagles offensive coordinator Jon Gruden also was considered … Bears when they offered … Article: Patriots interested in Crowton Offensive . …
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    http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=interested+in+Jon+Gruden&as_user_ldate=1996&as_user_hdate=1997&scoring=a&hl=en&ned=us&sa=N&start=40

  569. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Cya later, work to do. I will check back later to see the pridictable backpedaling from that liar MR and his suckass racist buddy KK.

  570. KoolKell Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 11:53 am

    Davis and Gannon and Trestman propped Gruden up, and he predictably flopped in TB without them. Plus he sucks on ESPN.
    —————————
    Bullsheet. Without Gruden/Gannon, Davis would probably be out by now.

  571. KoolKell Says:

    Hey Bo Chimpbeclher

    You momma’s a suckass racist, ok?

  572. Richochet Says:

    Doesn’t reality say you can go google pretty much any OC, who’s been around for a few years, and find articles where someone mentions him?

  573. bcz24 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 10:59 am
    The best assistant coaches? ha ha!! I’d love to see some examples to make your case, that our assistant coaches are “some of the best”. ha ha ha ha! Start with Jim Marshall. Compare and contrast him with other defensive coordinators around the league. Go ahead and include his defensive stats from last year. I need a laugh.
    **************************************************
    I said they were some of the best assistants WE have had since chucky was here… I did not in any way shape or form compare them to anyone from around the league. I know it gives you great pleasure to rip people apart, but read what I wrote first.

  574. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Bo, I never said any team wanted him as a HC before Al Davis. I was disputing the claim that he’s a “no name”, as you’ve just said, as well. How would you define no name? I’ve got hundreds of pages coming back on google news searches pre 1998, almost all of the articles having headlines indicating that Gruden was considered for head coaching positions. So, just what is your definition of a no name?

  575. Richochet Says:

    Kelli? You bringing up racism again?

    # KoolKell Says:
    March 4th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
    Chris in NY
    It’s alright peckerwood, it’s all good.
    =======================================
    # KoolKell Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 11:26 am
    Hey Peckerwood Podunker, how’s it going today?
    ============================
    KoolKell Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 11:29 am
    Boo
    You’re a lying piece of shyt.
    You fuking peckerwood you were trying to make a statement with that headline
    ==================================
    Urban Dictionary
    Definition: peckerwood
    “Racist term for white man.”
    ======================================================
    Your ass should be banned for your racist crap, Racist Scumbag.

  576. KoolKell Says:

    Jon Gruden absolutely humiliated Al Davis. Hollywood couldn’t have written it any better.

  577. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Richochet Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 11:57 am

    —-

    Apparently….you havent heard of a joke before…..You should look into getting a sense-of-humor..theyre pretty dope.

  578. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Richochet, he’s mentioned as a head coaching candidate. I’m only posting the articles to dispute the claim that he was a “no name”, made by ghost to the post and bo schembechler. Do you think Gruden was a no name before coming to Oakland, Richochet? If so ,can I just get your definition as to what a “no name” is, in your view? These articles aren’t just recognizing him as an offensive coordinator. And, I agree with you. You can google any OC and get a ton of results. But a ton of results talking about him being a sought after HC candidate?

  579. KoolKell Says:

    Reekofshyt

    You should slit your throat for being so useless.

  580. new englandraider Says:

    TRIPPING #76 OFFENSE 10 YARD PENALTY REPLAY 3RD DOWN

  581. bcz24 Says:

    Wow… so quick to jump down peoples throats, but no apology when you are wrong. Interesting.

  582. Richochet Says:

    MR..guess it depends on the description of no name, right?
    Technically Gruden became a household name after being promoted, obviously.
    But yeah, around the NFL Gruden was well known, and was a top OC..don’t think anyone can dispute that.
    Household name? of course not..but he wasn’t a hidden commodity that Al “found”.

    Cable? He’s a tree stump. Will always be one. After he’s canned, he has zero chance of any team EVER wanting him as a leader..because he’s not one. He’s a puppet, which is exactly what Al wanted.

  583. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    What am I wrong about? I wasn’t the one who said that Jon Gruden was a “no name” before coming to Oakland, which might be the biggest lie ever told by a Davis kool aid drinker.

  584. Richochet Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    Reekofshyt

    You should slit your throat for being so useless
    ===================
    Oh Kelli, lol…more with the drama and tears?
    Hey, those are YOUR WORDS..YOU’RE RACIST BS.

    And those three comments? they were directed at three different posters..so yeah, you’re a racist piece of shyte, Kelli.

  585. Richochet Says:

    Didn’t say you were wrong, MR

  586. DeuceDeuce Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
    What am I wrong about? I wasn’t the one who said that Jon Gruden was a “no name” before coming to Oakland, which might be the biggest lie ever told by a Davis kool aid drinker.

    Technically no one ever can be a no name. Everyone has a name.

  587. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO7rF_XbI6Y

  588. Richochet Says:

    # DeuceDeuce Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 12:02 pm

    Richochet Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 11:57 am

    —-

    Apparently….you havent heard of a joke before…..You should look into getting a sense-of-humor..theyre pretty dope.
    ===================
    “pretty dope”??

    Wonderful. My 12 year old talks the same.
    Board is a magnet for idiot kids, crossposting morons, and racist old unemployed kept realtor failures.

    Now nifty

  589. bcz24 Says:

    I was refering to this MR:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 10:59 am
    The best assistant coaches? ha ha!! I’d love to see some examples to make your case, that our assistant coaches are “some of the best”. ha ha ha ha! Start with Jim Marshall. Compare and contrast him with other defensive coordinators around the league. Go ahead and include his defensive stats from last year. I need a laugh.
    **************************************************
    I said they were some of the best assistants WE have had since chucky was here… I did not in any way shape or form compare them to anyone from around the league. I know it gives you great pleasure to rip people apart, but read what I wrote first.

    bcz24 Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 10:54 am
    I think we have some of the best assistant coaches we have had since Chucky left in Hue and Marshall (all may be for naught since their input is as meaningful as a cloudy day in japan to al)

  590. Richochet Says:

    How’s business going, Kelli?

    Wait..let me call the office.

  591. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    And then there’s Deuce Duece, who thinks coaching isn’t the problem, while also saying he doesn’t know who makes the decisions as to who plays in Oakland. If it’s not the head coach making those decisions, then the head coach is the problem! But don’t tell him that.

  592. bcz24 Says:

    I didn’t say you were wrong about the Gruden no name argument. I am aware he was a “hot commodity” in the NFL prior to becoming our head coach. I agree with Richochet on this one though, he was NOT a household name before becoming our coach.

  593. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    That’s a misunderstanding, not being wrong. Ghost to the post clearly said Gruden was a no name. I merely responded to a point I thought you were trying to make. If you want an apology for it, here it is, sweetie. It wasn’t that big of a deal. Besides, anyone who even uses the word “best” alongside our coaches in any context is asking for it. And, I don’t see where this staff is better than staffs from the past. We haven’t had a competent staff since nearly a decade ago. I don’t care how much better the lame staffs are than each other.

  594. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I never said he was a household name. I was disputing Ghost’s claim that he was a “no name”. After whining about me misunderstanding your point, you’re going to go on and put words into my mouth? You’re a hypocrite and a whiner.

  595. Richochet Says:

    Damn..according to Kane and Assoc they haven’t seen you in a while, Kelli..they did, however, forward me to your voicemail.

    They were just “sure” you were out canvassing, which is what all ’slow’ realtors do…right Kelli?
    (will be our little secret that you do none of that..but hey..why bother? The wife works..she brings home the bacon..you? You just sit at the barber shop, swapping tales with the other old timers..now, how fun is that, pops?

    Oh..and dude? your voice..uh…the high pitched squeal on your recording?
    is that you?
    I would have someone else record the message, if I were you. Someone with a more masculine voice.
    Have your wife do it.

  596. Raider O Says:

    Bo,

    You are dishonest, Racist, and a preppie!

    Damn you Mich!!

    LMAO

  597. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Ghost to the post tried to make the point that Al DAvis has had success in the past with no names, and tried to list Madden, Gruden, and now Cable as those no names.

    Cable he’s obviously right about. He is a no name.

    Gruden was NOT a no name. He was considered for HC jobs before coming to Oakland. That may not make him a household name, but it certainly lifts him from the “no name” status.

    John Madden stepped up when Davis offered the HC position to anyone who basically wanted it after Rauch left. This is in the NFL Films History of the Oakland Raiders DVD. I can find out exactly what time of the film it happens if you want me to. Davis didn’t exactly go out and “find” Madden. He just needed a replacement for Rauch, offered the job to his current staff, and Madden was the most determined. That’s not finding someone.

    Truth be told, the only “no name” Al Davis ever really founded is Tom CAble. And you can see the results. Al Davis has only succeeded in the past by doing things other people’s way.

  598. bcz24 Says:

    I dont care if you apologize or not dude, its no sweat of my back. Maybe you should just slow down sometimes. I dont know what it is about you and richo that make you guys feel like it is your job to sh*t on everyone here. My point was simple, you quickly blast everything that is said in here, but you wont even apologize for being wrong. Of course I agree with you on praising anything about a coaching staff that went 5-11, but for comparisons sake, I really feel like, and its my opinion, our coaching staff minus cable is the best we have had since Gruden was here.

  599. LA to TheBay Says:

    Richochet Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
    Damn..according to Kane and Assoc they haven’t seen you in a while, Kelli..they did, however, forward me to your voicemail.

    They were just “sure” you were out canvassing, which is what all ’slow’ realtors do…right Kelli?
    (will be our little secret that you do none of that..but hey..why bother? The wife works..she brings home the bacon..you? You just sit at the barber shop, swapping tales with the other old timers..now, how fun is that, pops?

    Oh..and dude? your voice..uh…the high pitched squeal on your recording?
    is that you?
    I would have someone else record the message, if I were you. Someone with a more masculine voice.
    Have your wife do it.
    ————————————————-

    Lol, dang Rich you’re a scumbag.

  600. Richochet Says:

    Kind of tough to lay the blame for not making decisions on someone who is not given the authority to make decisions.
    Al overrules everyone, by his own admission.
    Turner benches Collins? Al: “He doesn’t make those decisions, I do”
    Kiffin can’s Ryan? Al: “He doesn’t fire assts. Only I do.”
    Cable? I don’t know of a decision he’s made that Al hasn’t ok’ed. he even admitted he got Al’s permission to start Grad after benching JR.
    Javon Walker sitting? And Cable’s lame excuse? Obviously was Al.

    that said, IMO, Cable isn’t the brightest bulb in the drawer, and doubtfully could make the right decision if all arrows pointed to it. Look at his play calling for evidence of someone lost..his lack of emotion on the sidelines (oh…my bad…EXCEPT WHEN HE’S BEING MIC’ED) his inability to motivate players to do above what’s expected…he’s a train wreck, to be quite honest.

    and Al loves it.

  601. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Nice try MR.

    KK, you are clearly a racist. A black Archie Bunker.

    Raider O, damn you too!

    Now back to work.

  602. Richochet Says:

    LA to the Bay?
    Yeah, LMFAO on that one ;)

  603. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    I would have someone else record the message, if I were you. Someone with a more masculine voice.
    Have your wife do it.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    LMAO. Now my whole staff is wondering what I find so funny…

  604. bcz24 Says:

    I wasnt whining OR putting words into your mouth. Do you even read this stuff or do you just post comments when you see peoples names. I said I AGREED WITH YOU… AND CONTINUED TO SAY I AGREED WITH RICHOCHET!!!! Read the F**king post dude. If anyone is putting words in your mouth it would be Rich, all I did was agree with him about Gruden not being a household name!

  605. Richochet Says:

    BCZ24?

    Hike up your dress, and quit crying.

    Geez…”wahhh…why are you so confrontational?”
    “sniff…you’re hurting my widdle feelings…just stop it, you big brute”

    Take some Midol…hey, it can’t hurt.

  606. Richochet Says:

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    I would have someone else record the message, if I were you. Someone with a more masculine voice.
    Have your wife do it.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    LMAO. Now my whole staff is wondering what I find so funny…
    ————–

    You think I’m kidding? lol…I’M NOT.

    Now, to be quite honest, I’ve never heard his wife speak, but one thing I can guarantee, I’ve only heard little piglets squeal at that same level that Kelli reaches, so I’m laying odds that pretty much everyone sounds more masculine than that..

    Save bet :mrgreen:

  607. bcz24 Says:

    LOL you guys make my day pass by so fast.

  608. Seymour Bush Says:

    Richochet Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 11:07 am

    There are more pressing issues on the table.
    ================================================

    Yeah, like when will wacky get a job. Probably after he starts taking his meds.

  609. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Bcz, who are you to tell someone to slow down? Piss off, moron.

  610. NorthernD Says:

    When you tick people off enough that they call your work? I think he should find another hobby. Blogging’s not working out for Kell.

  611. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    What do you mean “nice try”, Bo? Just what is it I tried to do?

  612. Seymour Bush Says:

    Richochet Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
    Damn..according to Kane and Assoc they haven’t seen you in a while, Kelli..they did, however, forward me to your voicemail.

    They were just “sure” you were out canvassing, which is what all ’slow’ realtors do…right Kelli?
    (will be our little secret that you do none of that..but hey..why bother? The wife works..she brings home the bacon..you? You just sit at the barber shop, swapping tales with the other old timers..now, how fun is that, pops?

    Oh..and dude? your voice..uh…the high pitched squeal on your recording?
    is that you?
    I would have someone else record the message, if I were you. Someone with a more masculine voice.
    Have your wife do it.
    ===============================================

    Wow dude. You have a lot of time on your hands. I guess that’s what happens when you still live at home with mommy.

  613. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Did Bo just say he has a staff? Ha ha ha!!! Bo’s staff = his parents in the next room, looking at him in disgust and wondering what to do about him.

  614. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    “my staff” …ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bo, keep ‘em coming. You’re killing me.

  615. bcz24 Says:

    RMR who are you to call someone a moron?

  616. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Who are you to tell someone to slow down?

  617. KoolKell Says:

    Bo Chimpbechler,

    You are clearly a racist. A hillbilly Archie Bunker.

  618. NorthernD Says:

    Read it again MR. I think he meant it as a compliment. That you guys are funny and it makes the day fly by when he reads the blog.

  619. bcz24 Says:

    LMAO. I am the guy you sh!t on without actually reading what he wrote.

  620. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I’m the guy you shyt on by putting words into my mouth. I never said Gruden was a household name.

  621. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Bcz, I’m not going to let you get away with the victim card. You came in swinging. You put words into my mouth.

  622. DKnight007 Says:

    The bleacher reports mock was good….but most likely a pipe dream when it comes to Al Davis.

    Swapping 1st round picks with G-Men would be good then getting Usi to be that pass rushing RDE this team needs.

    They can then get their ANY OT who is there with the G-Men 1st Rounder. Campbell might still be there along possibly Anthony Davis, Trent Williams or Charles Brown.

    Then they can get a DT like Lamar Houston, Cam Thomas or Cody in Round 2….then go LB and a KR/slot WR like Ford in Round 3.

    Or maybe even get the all everything LB SPOON with the G-Mens pick.

    McClains stock seems to be falling a bit. He had a non existent combine and he was barely existent at his pro day.

  623. DeuceDeuce Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
    And then there’s Deuce Duece, who thinks coaching isn’t the problem, while also saying he doesn’t know who makes the decisions as to who plays in Oakland. If it’s not the head coach making those decisions, then the head coach is the problem! But don’t tell him that.


    Like I said playing DHB and Russell no matter what falls back on Al. Theyre obviously Al calls. But it seems like Cable has say in other areas. So no, you cant blame it on the Coaching staff. Theyre coaching with a handicap when Al does things like that.

    This is the best staff weve had since Gruden.

  624. NorthernD Says:

    Trading for Umenyiora seems like a bit of a stretch.
    McLain couldn’t finish his pro day and revealed that he suffers from Chrohn’s disease. I don’t know if you know, but it’s an intestinal disorder that causes really bad abdominal cramping and pain.
    It hasn’t caused him to miss game or practice time, but it should cause him to drop a few spots in the draft.

  625. DeuceDeuce Says:

    I thought McClain ran good at his pro day?

  626. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    You put words into my mouth.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Not likely. Your mouth is full.

  627. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Per PFT. Ptint that. Word. Hey now.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Raiders release Gerard Warren
    Posted by Michael David Smith on March 11, 2010 3:52 PM ET
    The Oakland Raiders have released defensive tackle Gerard Warren, making the nine-year veteran an unrestricted free agent.

    Warren, who had a roster bonus due on March 16, was widely expected to be released, and Michael Lombardi of NFL Network and NFP reported on Twitter that it became official today.

    Although Warren has started all 32 games in the last two seasons for the Raiders and still occasionally shows flashes of the athleticism that made him the third overall pick in the 2001 NFL draft, he’s 31 years old and not likely to get any big-money offers in free agency.

    Warren had a career-low two sacks in 2009.

  628. DKnight007 Says:

    Al and his decision making are LAME!

    I left a pissed voice message for Herrera and I still haven’t got a call back yet…nor will I ever. LOL

  629. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Richochet Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
    # DeuceDeuce Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 12:02 pm

    Richochet Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 11:57 am

    —-

    Apparently….you havent heard of a joke before…..You should look into getting a sense-of-humor..theyre pretty dope.
    ===================
    “pretty dope”??

    Wonderful. My 12 year old talks the same.
    Board is a magnet for idiot kids, crossposting morons, and racist old unemployed kept realtor failures.

    Now nifty

    —-
    Does your 12 year old know you take internet blogs this serious?

  630. KoolKell Says:

    Of course All the Raider failures come back to Al Davis, since he’s the undisputed Boss of the Raiders.

    Looking at Tom Cables numbers since he’s been coach, it’s clear he’s done nothing to improve the Team.

    Point differential numbers are up. Higher even than Art Shell’s numbers.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/

  631. NorthernD Says:

    McLain put up good numbers in the 40, but he didn’t finish all the positional drills. He was on a knee and in pain before he could finish.
    I know that disease can be devastating to people.
    I don’t how well he can control it, but it will be a factor for any team that wants to draft him.

  632. inonewordraider Says:

    Osi will cost same as 8th pick in the draft but with Osi you get a proven commodity and another former superbowl champ in the DL, I’d do it

  633. inonewordraider Says:

    You better beleive Al’s thought of it, stubborn as he is and as bad a gambler as he’s been lately he’s still gonna conteplate all scenarios and go after what he wants

  634. DKnight007 Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
    Per PFT. Ptint that. Word. Hey now.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Raiders release Gerard Warren
    Posted by Michael David Smith on March 11, 2010 3:52 PM ET
    The Oakland Raiders have released defensive tackle Gerard Warren, making the nine-year veteran an unrestricted free agent.

    Warren, who had a roster bonus due on March 16, was widely expected to be released, and Michael Lombardi of NFL Network and NFP reported on Twitter that it became official today.

    Although Warren has started all 32 games in the last two seasons for the Raiders and still occasionally shows flashes of the athleticism that made him the third overall pick in the 2001 NFL draft, he’s 31 years old and not likely to get any big-money offers in free agency.

    Warren had a career-low two sacks in 2009.

    ^^^^^^^
    No brainer….

  635. NorthernD Says:

    Osi is a pass rusher. He’s not great against the run. The Raiders brought in Ellis, Seymour and Shaugnessy to bulk up against the run. I can’t see them returning to old form and grabbing another Derrick Burgess type.
    If anything, they’ll add more bulk to the D-line.

  636. RaiderRockstar Says:

    pass on Osi & LJ

    I’d re-sign Ellis & Fargas for peanuts before giving good money & reps to those clowns …

  637. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Duece Deuce, how do you know they’re Al’s calls? Were you there? Why is it ok for you to declare as fact what Al’s involved in and what he isn’t involved in, but the rest of us need video proof?

  638. inonewordraider Says:

    Re-sign Warren for cheaper, he’s still young, healthy, and would be a good depth guy. Sounds like were going after Dan Williams Brian Price or Pierre Paul

  639. DeuceDeuce Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
    Of course All the Raider failures come back to Al Davis, since he’s the undisputed Boss of the Raiders.

    Looking at Tom Cables numbers since he’s been coach, it’s clear he’s done nothing to improve the Team.

    Point differential numbers are up. Higher even than Art Shell’s numbers.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/

    That being said I wanna Just win baby.

  640. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Al Davis is about a week late dumping Warren.

    NT’s Jamal Williams & Maake Kemoeatu have already been signed in free agency.

    guess we’ll have to wait until the draft or make a trade …

  641. DKnight007 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
    pass on Osi & LJ

    I’d re-sign Ellis & Fargas for peanuts before giving good money & reps to those clowns …

    ^^^^^^^^
    LOL….Osi yes….LJ Noooooooo!

  642. RaiderRockstar Says:

    new post!

  643. NorthernD Says:

    IMO Warren is done. May as well put a blocking sled out there. Dez Bryant should get the starting nod beside Kelly next year if they don’t find another body in the draft. 31 is ancient for DT. That’s a lot of pounding on a body.

  644. DeuceDeuce Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 11th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
    Duece Deuce, how do you know they’re Al’s calls? Were you there? Why is it ok for you to declare as fact what Al’s involved in and what he isn’t involved in, but the rest of us need video proof?


    Aha! Aha! Now you get my point. We dont know whos call it is. So we cant blame anyone. We can jus bich n moan about what we want. And what we should do.

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