Raiders still watch from afar
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, March 12th, 2010 at 3:32 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Bruce Allen’s skin remains as thick as ever.
Rest assured the signing of Larry Johnson and his checkered history won’t be received well in Washington, but that didn’t prevent the Redskins from signing him before he had a chance to visit Oakland.
As the senior assistant under Al Davis, Allen not only didn’t care when the Raiders were criticized in the media. He almost seemed amused by it.
Johnson, provided the Raiders were truly interested in signing him, is a not a significant loss. He hasn’t been the same back since carrying 416 times in the 2006 season.
Washington did have the right idea with regard to a contract. According to ESPN’s Adam Schefter, it was three years and $3.5 million with incentives that could bring it to $12 million. And it’s doubtful much has been guaranteed.
Meanwhile, according to Philly.com, Justin Fargas will strike out in Philadelphia after not getting contract offers in Kansas City and Cleveland.
He’s scheduled to be at the Commitment to Excellence awards dinner Saturday night, where he’ll receive the honor along with tight end Zach Miller.
Fargas probably won’t use the same line on the crowd that he did with Philadelphia media.
“I’ve had seven tough years in Oakland and I want to compete for a championship,” Fargas said. “That’s the expected here with the organization and the fans here.”
Considering the Raiders recent history when spending big in free agency _ and they’re far from alone in coming up empty _ their strategy is sound. Wait for prices to come down, then sign players for lower salaries and minimal bonus money.
Meanwhile, linebacker Jon Alston, who did not receive a qualifying offer from the Raiders and became a restricted free agent, has signed with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
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March 12th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
FUBAR
March 12th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Wow amazing all these teams passing on the legendary Fargas.
March 12th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
“I’ve had seven tough years in Oakland and I want to compete for a championship,” Fargas said. “That’s the expected here with the organization and the fans here.”
-lol
March 12th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
BAN THE TROLLS!
March 12th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Riveting…
ice COLD beer time!!
take care, all…..
March 12th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
They absolutely insist on playing Fargas over anybody else last year, give him the Commitment To Excellence award, then cut him????
March 12th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Dakota, if TO can light a flaming fire under this Teams Azzis, sign me up today! I’ll pay for the banner!
March 12th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
“I’ve had seven tough years in Oakland and I want to compete for a championship,” Fargas said. “That’s the expected here with the organization and the fans here.”
-lol
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Kelli?
You take stupid pills today?
The “That’s the expected here”? he’s referring to Philly as being “here”.
Quit playing the doofus bit, and get back to me on my offer to get your fat jablubber butt off your ass and out trying to drum up some business.
I KNOW, I KNOW..your wife works.
You do nothing.
But don’t you think that should change?
March 12th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
# JB Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Kell
What did you do to some of these people to generate such personal attacks? What do we have in this blog, a bunch of pre-teens? Obviously individuals with too much free time on their hands.
Let’s stick to football. Our team hasn’t been the same since we lost Gannon and a decent O-line. Without a real franchise QB there’s no hope of success in this league.
March 12th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Funny how Tampa Bay takes all our rejects, I’m kinda thinking Al does this on perpose, lmao.
March 12th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Purpose!
March 12th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
JB
I’ve had some of these trolls banned before.
March 12th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
They absolutely insist on playing Fargas over anybody else last year, give him the Commitment To Excellence award, then cut him????
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It was either the award or a gold watch. The award was cheaper.
March 12th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Anyone know what happened to LMN?
March 12th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
O Mock draft 10.0:
1- DT SUH (trade up)
2- ILB Spikes
3- WR/ KR Jacoby Ford
3- (from kirk’s tender) OT Tony Washington (according to Walterfootball: he is a 1st RD talent, but he had sex with his sister when he was 16) LMFAO
4- DE: Austen Lane
5- CB: Akwasi Asnah, or Walter Thurmond
7- FB, OL, or DL
March 12th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
LMN was in here last night, I think.
March 12th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
K Kell, missed him……
March 12th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
LMN has a new GF, so he is busy. He was here today.
March 12th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
Raider O, #3, but was it good? Like the rest though….LOL
March 12th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
How do you think Bill Romanoski would have handled JR’s attitude? I would just love to see TO call out JR in public for his lack of preparedness both physicaly & mentally. We really need to get this JR fiasco settled. This should be his last hurrah. Either he comes to camp in shape (35# less) with the right mental attitude or he should be invited to a live press release with an overhead projector. you get the idea. I hope he becomes very successful but I have my doubts.
March 12th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
Thank’s Raider O,….
March 12th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
LMN was here this morning.
March 12th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
JB, his empire and posse is starting to get it, he’s just a kid, if he doesn’t have it figured out by now, it ain’t ever gonna click, he has to make a decision, I think he has finally gotten wise from his agent, the tap is going dry….
March 12th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
That’s sick, but I’ll give him a chance with the 3rd RD.
He is 6′6 318, ran a 5.2 & 5.18, has 35″ arms, and had 33 reps at the bench. (I’ve never seen him play, but I like his size, and according to a few sites he has 1st RD talent)
March 12th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
JR needed to go to an organization that ran a tight ship, and had leaders in it.
March 12th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
“That’s the expected here…” That’s the slaughtering the language here. He makes JaPrecious sound like William F. Buckley.
March 12th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
My sense is that AD will take Bruce Campbell with the #8 pick. He knows that he can no longer ignore the O-line. Campbel has all the speed and physical attributes that excites AD but he’s also a legitimate OLT. He and Gallery could do some serious damage on the left side. I’d move Henderson to ORT, draft a premier C with the #2 pick. A MLB with the 3A pick, a DT with the 3B pick, an OG with the 5A pick, a KR/PR with the 5B pick and the best athletic football player left with the 7th pick. That should get us started. I’d relegate Satele, Carlisle & Morris to back-up O-linemen.
March 12th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Raider O
According to draft trade value chart, if the Raider try to trade up, they will need more then their first, third and fifth.
Check out yourself
http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php
So lets say we trade down, to say mid first round, according to the chart, we would only get 3rd and 4th plus the mid round. My point you need to understand how teams value draft position, we have 8th overall pick, its not that appealing unless you want some picks for next year, no team would be willing to trade up and give up half of their draft for the day.
March 12th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
JB
Check out the OT ratings. Bruce Campbell is not up there. He has only 17 starts in college. He’s a project with great measurables.
We don’t need another one of those at #8.
March 12th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
I like to draft based on talent and value. Drafting based on needs can cause a team to reach for players. IMHO
March 12th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
JB, I’m from Conn, and have watched Cambell for a few years, he is a monster, would be a great pick with some good coaching….repeat, good coaching!
March 12th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
R4,
I see. You are right, so we should add Huff and TK to that trade. That will make it happen.
March 12th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Good. Like I said yesterday, Johnson was never the same after Shields retired. Add that to his hold outs and off filed BS and its a good no sign.
Ufk Fargas. That guy sucked. Good ridance. Always injured, used to fumble alot, zero field vision, couldn’t slip a hit to save his life had only 10 TDs in SEVEN YEARS and will not make another team this off season.
Fargas can whine all he wants about how Oakland sucked, but hes part of the reason.
There are very few places in the NFL that would’ve given a dud like Farg as many opportunities as Oakland, to their detriment I might add.
Word.
March 12th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
KK
I don’t disagree with what you are saying but I’d much rather have Campbell, an OLT, as opposed to a fast CB, Safety or someone else we’ve never heard about like we did at the #2 spot last year. Mitchell may work out & I hope he does but we need to draft needs first, not track stars.
March 12th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
There are very few places in the NFL that would’ve given a dud like Farg as many opportunities as Oakland, to their detriment I might add.
Word.
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Well, are the Raiders in the winning business, or charity?
March 12th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
JB, don’t get me wrong on Campbell, i’m in, but needs a lot of refinement, but puts up strong attributes.
March 12th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
You fill in the names:
1 – OLT
2 – OC
3A – MLB
3B – DT
5A – OG
5B – KR/PR
7 – Best available football player
March 12th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
JB Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
My sense is that AD will take Bruce Campbell with the #8 pick. He knows that he can no longer ignore the O-line. Campbel has all the speed and physical attributes that excites AD but he’s also a legitimate OLT. He and Gallery could do some serious damage on the left side. I’d move Henderson to ORT, draft a premier C with the #2 pick. A MLB with the 3A pick, a DT with the 3B pick, an OG with the 5A pick, a KR/PR with the 5B pick and the best athletic football player left with the 7th pick. That should get us started. I’d relegate Satele, Carlisle & Morris to back-up O-linemen
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LEGITIMATE?!
How the he-ll do you figure that? The guys only started 17 games EVER.
Plus: If there is a negative Campbell has besides experience, it’s a condition called Arnold-Chiari, which healthline.com describes as “a rare genetic disorder” where “some parts of the brain are formed abnormally.” Campbell said he had surgery in high school to relieve the problem and that doctors at the combine cleared him to play, but it could be the type of condition that might affect his draft status. – Jan Hubbard, Fort Worth Star Telegram
There are also concerns about his effort and intelligence.
NO WAY this guy goes with the 8th.
Because of Bey everybody thinks they’ve got Davis pegged now. “Yup, he’ll take the best measurables!”
BS. Passed on Ghoulston didn’t he?
March 12th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
There are very few places in the NFL that would’ve given a dud like Farg as many opportunities as Oakland, to their detriment I might add.
Word.
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Well, are the Raiders in the winning business, or charity?
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Ask Whitted or Sam Williams or Farg…
March 12th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Or Javon or DeAngelo
March 12th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Waiting to see what Javon has to say on NFLN right now…
March 12th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
At least we know Campbell is in shape and can last 4 quarters. A lot of these OT’s are just big overweight guys. From what I’ve seen of Campbell’s highlights, he’s a devastating blocker. He stays engaged until the whistle blows. He grinds people into the ground. He and Gallery together should be able to open BIG HOLES on the left side and BOTH have he capability to continue downfield for more mayhem. Maybe with these two guys DMac can gain some extra yards BEHIND them.
IMO Campbell’s upside far outweighs his inexperience. He obviously wants to be all he can be. Too bad we don’t have more like him. Maybe his attitude will become contageous.
March 12th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
1- DT SUH trade our 1st, Huff, and TK
2- ILB Spikes
3- OT Tony Washington
3- WR/KR Jacoby Ford
4- CB Akwasi Asnah
5- DE Austen Lane
5- OL: Ciron Black
7- FB
March 12th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Nhamdi
The points you made on Campbell are valid and should be considered. I guess it’s all about who’s available when our pick arives. I just hope we rebuild our O-line. We need, at a minimum, a 60% turnover.
March 12th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Jb, the trouble with your post is there are so many intangables that it couldn’t be possible to fulfill the spots that you name. This is not a dream fullfilled, it it a LOT of free agents, against a bumper crop of LINEMEN, both sides, With a no cap year, and players leaving teams every day. This is a very tough year for all sides involved, seems like the agents have their guy’s out early hoping for a bite, cause it’s going to get nasty in the next few months…Been here before…
March 12th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
Campbell is a project, and Anthony Davis is questionable too. If we can’t gt Okung…..maybe we should go DT……
March 12th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
RDE: Austen Lane
DT: Seymour
DT: Suh
LDE: Matt S
WLB: T Scott
MLB: Spikes
SLB: TH/ Kirk
CB: Nnamdi
CB: CJ/ Akwasi
SS: M Mitchell
FS: Branch
QB: JR/ Bruce/?
RB: Bush/ DMC
FB: 7th RD Pick Rookie
LT: Mario
LG: Gallery
C: Satele
RG: Cooper/ Ciron Black 5th RD
RT: Barnes/ Tony Washington 3rd RD
TE: Z Miller
WR: Chaz
WR: Murphy/ DHB/ Jacoby Ford
PR/ KR: jacoby Ford
March 12th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
That’s why he should just draft Spoon at #8 and then go with OT or DT in Round 2!
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interesting.
Spoon at 8, Houston or Cody in Round 2.
patch up the O-Line in Round 3 (we’ll have three 3rd rounders if we manage to get one for Kirk.) that means C, RG & RT
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Yep!
Nothing wrong with potentially loading up on O-Line in the 3rd Round if necessary.
Get the beast all three down LB who can play ALL LB spots at #8 and then draft the best DT in Round 2 between Lamarr Houston, Terrance Cody or Cam Thomas. One of the three if not two of the three will be there in Round 2.
Then go O-Line in the 3rd Round and maybe KR/WR Jacoby Ford with one of those picks as well.
March 12th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Yeah so….some people thought Fargas was so awesome. No other teams seem to think so. He may sign with the Eagles but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him back with the Raiders for much less money because he had nowhere else to go and Al Davis would say to him, “Its ok Huggy, come back to papa.”
March 12th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Huggy had no line for 7 years, neither did JR, we paid the price, Period!
March 12th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Al would never sign T.O. because he knows T.O. will broadcast to the press what goes on behind the scenes here, especially when things go bad. Players speaking out about the culture here is a new epidemic for Al Davis, because he hasn’t seen the last of it. This is a new generation of NFL football players and coaches and defending someone like Al DAvis by keeping their mouths shut just doesn’t compute with them. They’re not going to take the fall.
March 12th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Bingo. Never considered that angle. lol.
March 12th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
They badmouth AL, they will badmouth anyone, they will be blackballed in this league, they need the league, not the other way around. The only ones complaining are the ones who aren’t working in the league!
March 12th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
SPOON!!
March 12th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Randy Moss said he smelled something fishy in Oakland, no?
March 12th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Yep, sold his soul to NE for a big contract, and what else there Kell? Kept his BIG mouth shut, NO?
March 12th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Kell, he was told, produce or leave, put up or shut up, you can and will be replaced. Where does that leave him? Had to get off his lazzy azz in Oakdale, huh, for me to have to look at his lazzy azz in NE. The story doesn’t change, the weak actors do, here in NE, we sort them out.
March 12th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Excuse me, but Randy Moss is one of the of greatest Offensive Weapons to ever play the game.
It was weird in Oakland and Art Shell’s practices, and he let it be known.
March 12th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Kell, he was an unproducing punk in Oakland, attitude driven piece of shyt, who never cared about this team from the moment he signed here. Oh, he might of been good somewhere else, when-ever, what did he ever do for the Town and Team from Oakland? Mane one thing this usless piece of self did anything other for himself? I don’t get it?
March 12th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Until we have a QB and a dominant O-line we will remain in the cellar.
March 12th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
Is it just me or was there NO Javon walker interview on NFL All access just now? They mentioned it in Path to the draft right before it.
March 12th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
NE had a superbowl team in place for him to come to, established lines, established coaching, just plug a hole, he lasted 1 year. You can pray to your Idol’s, mine live in OAKLAND!
March 12th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
As long as we can outscore the opponent, we win. Our focus first has to be on a scoring offense.
March 12th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
JB, just my opinion, we can develope JR, IF we can get an O-Line, my humble opinion….
March 12th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Huggy had no line for 7 years, neither did JR, we paid the price, Period!
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Wrong.
Oaklands ZBS had them as a top 10 rushing team for a few years in there. Remember when Farg hit 1,009 yds the year of his CONTRACT expiring?
The ONLY time the bum put forth the effort. Always injured the very MOMENT he hit his bonus goal of 1000 yds he goes out the rest of the year injured.
Bum. Good riddance.
March 12th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Raider O
Unless we replace C Satele, RG Cooper and RT Barnes with Mawae, Lilja and Trent Williams, this line won’t improve. I can guarantee you even if we plug in Trent Williams at RT, Satele and Cooper will cause this unit to fail, especially Satele. I wish I had game clips in my laptop, I recorded few games and Satele rarely holds the opponent DTs, he barely opens up lane for our running back. I challenge anyone to show me a clip where Satele pushs off the first guy and jumps up to the second guy some centers do. The guy is garbage or just a backup in imo. We need a new Center, RG and RT to improve this line, one new guy won’t make a difference and I have feeling Gallery won’t be healthy next year so be prepared for another lousy play from Chris Morris.
March 12th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
JB, just my opinion, we can develope JR, IF we can get an O-Line, my humble opinion….
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agreed. Russell’s ALWAYS had a tendencey to hold the ball too long. Need to get him the protection.
March 12th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Bulaga or Williams. Campbell’s a huge risk with no experience. We need help NOW not a someday project.
March 12th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
JB Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
As long as we can outscore the opponent, we win. Our focus first has to be on a scoring offense.
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That’s what Al Davis has been trying to do, unsuccessfully though.
March 12th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
860TC
O-line yes, JR not so sure. He has a ton of bad habits the least of which include being out of shape & fumbleitis when he gets hit. How can such a large man not be able to hang onto & protect the ball? He will really need to commit himself to getting into the best possible physical shape and to learn the offense. Further, he needs to perfect his throwing style. He has relied far to long on a strong arm and regularily throws off his back foot falling backwards. This poor tecnique contributes to his inacuracy. The ball is really in his court. He needs to decide to give it his all to ecome the franchise QB and leader that we all hoped he’d be. Right now it is a 50/50 chance that he succeed or fail. I do believe this upcoming year will be the last opportunity he will be given. He’s coasted through high school and college and didn’t really have to work hard. His size and arm strength alone was enough to get him by. That’s NOT the case in the NFL. Either he bears down and gives it his all or he will have his ass kicked out of he league as just another BUST.
March 12th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
I think Russell feels the pressure, he just hold the ball too low, one-hand etc.
March 12th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Is this the real Jamarcus?
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/169/388479275_2e3ac7709b.jpg
March 12th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
# JB Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Until we have a QB and a dominant O-line we will remain in the cellar.
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Your forgot to mention a dominant D-Line as well, along with better schemes and play calling on both sides of the ball.
Until that happends….this franchise and team will remain in the gutter and continue to irrelevant.
March 12th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Not picking on anyone, our SB’s have always had BIG, REACHING, O-LINES, D-LINES. We went to the newest thing in the book, WCO, and it totally failed. It may work with some teams, it DOES NOT WORK IN OAKLAND! We are too light, we are bounced around by every team we face. Our rb’s don’t have a chance, don’t blame Fargas, he plunged his body into a never working O-line since his inception, he sacrificed it every week against a plug patch line that didn’t work. He deserves the Award he is recieving, he put it up every day, his TD’s are down because of the team that let him down. Period. He tried every day, in practice, in thought, in Raiderology, He was a man and leader of this team, not some overrated rookie out of college that everyone here thinks is the next Raider God. This team is going to loose the good things that Mr Fargass has brought to this team, ethics, emtheisuiasm, hard work, learn by what I am teaching you. This is a loss to our team, however you might not see it now, but you’ll see.
March 12th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Is this the real Jamarcus?
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/169/388479275_2e3ac7709b.jpg
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Hope so for his sake and the sake of the Raiders. It could be a good first step to get in shape and work on his fundamentals and footwork before training camp hits….otherwise he is done.
Where did you get that picture?
March 12th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Google.
March 12th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
# Raider O Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
SPOON!!
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I would have no problem with drafting the all everything who can play three LB spots Sean Weatherspoon at #8.
Spoon is in the mold of Cushing, but Spoon can play the MIKE LB spot and has the speed, power and leadership ability to do it all AND he can cover.
March 12th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
I think he was a freshman there.
No, that’s not today’s pix.
March 12th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Out 4 the night folk’s, work tomorrow, night! East coast time here, lol
March 12th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
I think he was a freshman there.
No, that’s not today’s pix.
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Yeah I was thinking that pic might have been when he was 17! LOL
March 12th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
I think a big part of the problem regarding Russell’s fumbling issues are just perception vs. reality. I think the general perception is that JR is this big, dumb, bumbling oaf, with zero pocket presence who can’t sense the rush, and is prone to coughing up the ball at the slightest contact.
The reality of the situation is that JR is very much middle of the pack in fumbles per sack. I believe it was Vegas that posted a link a week or so ago. The stats actually contradicted his point, much to his chagrin. His point being something about his man crush on Grads. (J.K. Vegas). Anyway, I don’t remember the exact numbers but JR fumbled on a middle of the road 28% of his sacks. I believe the worst was SB MVP Drew Brees who fumbled the ball 10 times on his 20 sacks. Whoda thunk it?
March 12th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Is this the real Jamarcus?
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/169/388479275_2e3ac7709b.jpg
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You DUMBASS…That’s from 2002..moron.
March 12th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
# Raider O Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
I like to draft based on talent and value. Drafting based on needs can cause a team to reach for players. IMHO
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Exactly….fill needs thru free agency then draft on talent and value.
If the old dumb man Al drafts this year the way he did last year, then it will be further proof that he has lost his mind and the franchise is DOOMED until he dies or his replaced.
March 12th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
But Jamarcus got sacked 47 times? Something like that. It works out to the same amount. Jamarcus is not a good quarterback. Never shown the field vision needed to survive at the NFL level. If he was more of a scrambler then he can provide a better alternative to poor passing skills (Mike Vick, Vince Young, Jake Plummer, etc.) Even those guys aren’t good quarterbacks but they were effective on running first football teams.
March 12th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
More importantly, Kelli…who was business today?
I stop in early..you’re on here.
I leave..come back hours later, you’re STILL on here..
Leave again..and stop in briefly now..and YOU’RE STILL ON HERE.
Guess that answers my question on how work was today, doesn’t it?
Ok…how’s this…how was your WIFE’S WORK TODAY?
You know…the one with a job?
March 12th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Fargas is gone. He ate up the valuble position of starting running back and never produced. I cheered him when he had good games, but he never produced consitantly. He could not score TD’s. That is what you need your running back to do.
10 TDs in 7 years….if I had to guess I would say that Rod Woodsen had more TDs in a ten year span from the CB/safety position.
He had a 1009 yard season once. In the NFL you expect that from your starter every year.
Now that he is gone, Michael Bush will score more TDs in 2010 than Fargas did in his 7 year career.
March 12th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
I smell a rat.
Another scumbag cross posting, multiple handle’s RAT.
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RaiderResurrection Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Actually I’ve been a member of this blog for quite sometime. I don’t post often enough to be recognized. Normally I get the news and be off on the rest of my day.
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RICHOCHET: so…you’ve been a MEMBER FOR QUITE SOME TIME? YOU READ THE NEWS ON HERE, REGULARLY, AND THEN OFF ONTO THE REST OF THE DAY??
So, in other words, you’re quite familiar with who is who?
Yet, you then post the FOLLOWING??
# RaiderResurrection Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
RaiderRockstar just flat out give me a crash course here on who’s who.
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Yep, LMFAO…you’re full of crap, and a CROSSPOSTING LIAR.
By all means, continue on..because..boy..you sure fooled us *rolling eyes*
March 12th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
How many times did Andrew Walter get sacked in 06′ under Al Davis’ same ole 7 step drop kindergarden offense?
March 12th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
When Kiffin was here, he had the QB’s getting outside with rollouts and bootlegs and moving pockets.
He’s out and Al Davis is back in.
March 12th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Damn Rich-O,
Lighten up a little bit bro. If you think somebody is full of Shyt, call them on it. If you want to bust someone’s chops, and have a little laugh at their expense, it’s all fun and games. Like I said before, you can have a razor sharp wit. KK doesn’t need me or anyone else to fight his battles. He’s a big boy. However your posts here lately, the attacks have gotten so personal, so persistent, and downright mean spirited, it’s a little creepy.
March 12th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
I’m glad Fargas is gone. He never could produce. He attracted contact, but he was running hard behind a poor line and inconsistent line. I hated how we could never string a good line together. IT got to the point where we only ran to the left side. The right side was weak.
Then we had the Andrew Walter Disaster.
March 12th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Yes JR takes a lot of sacks, and no doubt some of them are on him. And, even if the numbers are accurate that I posted earlier, and he is middle of the pack, for such a big man, Russell seems to cough it up too much. However, I put most of the blame on the Raiders make shift o-line. Because, the two smaller, more mobile QB’s who started after Russell, both got knocked the fugg out. That’s why myself, and most everybody else on here are screaming for the line to be addressed early and often in the upcoming draft.
March 12th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Not picking on anyone, our SB’s have always had BIG, REACHING, O-LINES, D-LINES. We went to the newest thing in the book, WCO, and it totally failed. It may work with some teams, it DOES NOT WORK IN OAKLAND! We are too light, we are bounced around by every team we face. Our rb’s don’t have a chance, don’t blame Fargas, he plunged his body into a never working O-line since his inception, he sacrificed it every week against a plug patch line that didn’t work. He deserves the Award he is recieving, he put it up every day, his TD’s are down because of the team that let him down. Period. He tried every day, in practice, in thought, in Raiderology, He was a man and leader of this team, not some overrated rookie out of college that everyone here thinks is the next Raider God. This team is going to loose the good things that Mr Fargass has brought to this team, ethics, emtheisuiasm, hard work, learn by what I am teaching you. This is a loss to our team, however you might not see it now, but you’ll see.
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If he was such a great leader and example why the ufk did our team suck so bad? We had attitude problems up until the last 2 yrs.
Farg gained some yards between the 20s later in his career in Oakland but the guy sucked.
Already pointed out we were a TOP 10 rushing team for the prior 2 seasons before this one and despite what the stats say, Fargas had one season unhurt.
That season he started SIX games.
Pi-ss on this. He’s gone forget him. He sucked, he didn’t produce and THATS what matters not his raiderology and enthusiasm. Some example.
Work really hard and you can be mediocre too!
Good riddance.
March 12th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
buckeyeraider Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Yes JR takes a lot of sacks, and no doubt some of them are on him. And, even if the numbers are accurate that I posted earlier, and he is middle of the pack, for such a big man, Russell seems to cough it up too much. However, I put most of the blame on the Raiders make shift o-line. Because, the two smaller, more mobile QB’s who started after Russell, both got knocked the fugg out. That’s why myself, and most everybody else on here are screaming for the line to be addressed early and often in the upcoming draft.
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Russell always has a tendency to hold the ball too long and combine with that make shift porous O line, yup, fumble city.
March 12th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Russell was sacked 31 times in 08′
33 times in 09′
Flacco was sacked 32 times in 08′
36 times in 09′
March 12th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Russell had waaay fewer attempts though, sorry.
March 12th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Have a nice evening fellas.Goodnight.
March 12th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
# 860Todd Christensen Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
They badmouth AL, they will badmouth anyone, they will be blackballed in this league, they need the league, not the other way around. The only ones complaining are the ones who aren’t working in the league!
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You’re in denial.
March 12th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
I consistently get a kick on how Nation drones focus their frustration on a decent guy like Fargas. OK, he was never great, but he worked and played hard, never complained, and did what he was asked. He was far from a flop. Yet he becomes the focus of all the pent up anger and frustration that ought to placed squarely on the old douche bag who unwittingly has run his own beloved franchise into the ground.
I sincerely hope Fargas makes a comeback somewhere. Not a damn thing wrong with the guy.
March 12th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Except the O-linemen will feel strange not being run into from behind by the tailback.
March 12th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
nanoo nanoo
March 12th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
If he scores 1 TD in the 64 quarters of regular season football next year, we can consider it a successful Fargas comeback. I hope he can do that for another team also.
March 12th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
A player will be blackballed for badmouthing Al? ha ha ha!!!! Yeh, like Al’s in the NFL good ol boys fraternity. That may be true if a player were to badmouth any other owner, but Al Davis? Trust me, other owners do not care. The NFL doesn’t care, either, that’s why they gave Sapp a job at their network. CBS certainly doesn’t care, Gannon’s doing fine there. There are no repercussions for badmouthing Al, other than Al trying to get even with you, assuming he even has the power to do so. So that’s why Al won’t sign T.O., because he knows Owens will tell everyone what goes on here. Do you think he’s going to take the fall? Heck no, and Al knows that. That’s why Al’s not going near him. I wish Al would sign him though. I always said that when Al signed Sapp, the best thing about it would be that Sapp would give us the scoop as to Al’s b.s. Boy, did he deliver. I hope T.O. comes here for the same reason.
March 12th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Shazbot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 12th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
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March 12th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
wut da wazzles goins on in dis hizzoo…im finna tro a partay…wanna cum wit?. ooooooooh snap!
March 12th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
party people, uze party poopers…im finna smoke da peace pipe…peace out.
March 12th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
Evening Fellas,
Why should Fargas be scapegoated?
The Guy went to work every day and layed it all out on the field.
He had no control over his Reps on Offense.
Fargas is a mediocore back that played with everything HE could bring.
End of story.
March 12th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
MR you idiot Sapp wishes he was still here getting paid he’s peobably near broke. Did you ever see him turn down a paycheck? Sapp was a loser as long as he got paid he didn’t care. He contirbuted to a losing attitude and now blames everyone except himself.
For all the flack Javon Walker gets at least he tld the owner he was stealing money. Sapp should’ve had a mask on.
March 12th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
I’m guessing I’m in the minority here but I have a strange feeling that Morrison got a 3rd round tag so the market can set his value. Oak always has the opportunity to match any offer OR receive a 3rd rounder.
Otherwise you have Kirk’s agent negotiating with the Raiders that he’s been their leading tackler last few years and would force them to pay more than he’s worth. This way, he can test the market, see what other teams are willing to offer and do all the work and than we just match it.
Think that’s what the Jets are doing with Leon. No way they let him walk for a 2nd.
Morrison said on Sirius he would love to stay a raider.
March 12th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Sapp is a front running blowhard.
March 12th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
I never was a fan of his
March 12th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
I’m watching Mike Mayock make all kinds a degrding remarks about JaMarcus Russell how he wouldn’t take him in the 1st rnd. But he never ever mentions how high he was on Brady Quinn who is every bit the bust Russell is if not more. Quinn is a workpout warrior. The scouts dream even Charles Davis admitted his man crush on him and the guy is a HUGE bust in his own home town.
But Mayock NEVER mentions that oversight. he also was way off on Chris Johnson whom I was very high on. Mayock is way overrated himself.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Midwest, astute observation on Morrison.
I hadn’t considered that angle.
Makes sense.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Preist, Considered “experts” never revisit history on their failures.
It’s not good for business.
Your point however is revealing.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Preist, have you gone on record about the direction you want to go in this draft?
Len, weigh in as well.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
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March 12th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
WTF?
March 12th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
I like Kirk to play SLB like he did when he was a rookie, Play TH on passing downs only, and draft a MLB like Spikes.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
Midwest, how do you mean, by position?
March 12th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
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More importantly, Kelli…who was business today?
I stop in early..you’re on here.
I leave..come back hours later, you’re STILL on here..
Leave again..and stop in briefly now..and YOU’RE STILL ON HERE.
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Can you spell hypocrite wacky?
March 12th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
Midwest,
I would like to see the O line addressed heavily.
I’d like to see a D lineman.
I’d also like a MLB.
My feeling is that this team will not do a damn thing until they have at least an average O Line.
My prefference is to see, within 2 years a dominant O Line.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
Who gave the retard a keyboard?
You People….
March 12th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
I would like to see some strength in the middle
Dominant C, DT, MLB
March 12th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
I concur, the absolute must is the Oline get it fixed with whomever and however and by any means necessary. Get it fixed. When that happens you have a foundation as a football team. I’ve always believed the backbone of any team is it’s Oline. The leader is the QB, defense allows you to be consistent and compete for a championship. Scoring wins games and compettitive in any contest.
Without the Oline none of the rest of that matters.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
We passed in a few good Cs last year, so why would we draft from a weaker C class?
Sign a C in FA, trade for one, or wait till next year. IMHO
March 12th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
Without the Oline the rest of those items suffer greatly.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
My thoughts as the picks stand now – really hoping we can find someone to move back with and acquire a few more picks:
Sign Mawae
8)Trent Williams
39)Pouncey or Ducasse either would start at RG
69)Yes we have pick 69! Geno Atkins
87)Cam Thomas
Rd4)Austen Lane
Rd5)Riley Cooper
Rd5)Walter Thurmond
Rd7)Anthony Harding (FB – Fresno State)
March 12th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
I agree about drafting a C this year vs 2009. Is the Saint’s Center available in FA?
Of course the right side of the O-line is in real need.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Think Pouncey in the 2nd along with Mawae gives Pouncey a chance to start day 1 while learning the C position by one of the best. Mawae should be good for another 2 years min. Cutting it close to get him at 39 but maybe move up a couple of spots using 2011 pick, or just take Ducasse and find a C in another draft.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Priest, Yep. O Line. It can make average skill position players better.
It empowers great skill position players to be great.
The O Line is the foundation of any winning football team.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
BHP,
What do you think of OT Tomy Washington in the 3rd? I read he has great talent (1st RD talent), but he is a registered sex offender, and that’s why he will droppast the 2nd. He had sex with his sister when he was 16. She was 15.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
Midwest, I like your mock because of the heavy enphasis on O Line early.
I also like the players you suggest.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
NFL.com reports WR Javon Walker was released by the Raiders earlier this week, but he says he isn’t done with the NFL.
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Yes he is.
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Comments from Yvonne Walker:
“The NFL is all about what have you done for me lately, and you know, I haven’t done anything lately,” Walker admitted. “But (I’m) just (looking for) somebody who’s going to dig down deep and say, ‘Let’s take a look and see what this kid can do.’”
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Lately? Lately? You haven’t done anything lately? Try over four years you moron. Dig down deep, see what this kid can do? He can’t do shyt. Thus, he was released.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
Midwest,
I rarely pick players beyond the 1st rnd it’s just grabbing names when you just don’t know who’ll be there. If a great player falls will you pass on him to take a guy rated lower? I don’t think so!
At #8 I would love to get T Williams or Bulaga at worse case scenario. Trent Williams has really grown on me.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
Stabler76 Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
I agree about drafting a C this year vs 2009. Is the Saint’s Center available in FA?
Of course the right side of the O-line is in real need.
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I wanted Mack last year. My feeeling was that if you can draft a C to anchor your line for a decade, and if that guy makes the Pro Bowl, nobody will remember that you “reached” for Him in the draft.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
OT Tony Washington: 6′6 315, ran a 5.18, has 35.5″ arms, and had 33 reps on the bench.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Oline/Oline/DT/DT/DE/WR,KR/CB,KR/FB
I think we’d be able to find a UFA RB to be a 3rd stringer / possible KR option.
That’s the other thing i’ve mentioned before but haven’t gotten much response from is about the UFA period following the draft. I’m thinking of bringing in a min of 15 players. Not sure if any rules or anything but why not?
March 12th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
MWfan,
I like your draft, but I would replace OT @ 39 with ILB B Spikes.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Raider O Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
OT Tony Washington: 6′6 315, ran a 5.18, has 35.5″ arms, and had 33 reps on the bench
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Yo Raider O!
The dude slept with His sister?
That’s pretty freaky.
If it’s a step sister, ok no problem…hormones and all.
His biological sister, too twisted…even for the Raiders.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
Don’t blame you Priest, I just have fun with it and think of what could be. Sometimes even figuring out the 1st rounder for the Raiders can be difficult!
March 12th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
Raider O,
I would be lying if i said anything about the kid I haven’t seen him at all. But the rap he has on him is a bad one I would deem him undraftable. AN UDFA
March 12th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
O – is that with or w/o Morrison on the team? Have a feeling that I know the answer to this ?
March 12th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Yeah I wanted Mack last year.
It is tough for rookies on the o-line.
Rivera for SD got picked on last year.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Stabler76,
Rookies do get picked on. I can live with that.
When our veterans are getting abused…time to change up.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
1- DT SUH trade our 1st and Huff to the lions.
2- ILB Spikes
3- OT Tony Washington
3- WR/ KR Jacoby Ford
4- DE Austen Lane
5- CB Akwasi Asnah, P Stoudamire, or Walter Thurmond.
5- OL: Ciron Black
7- FB
That will give us a great defense, and that should help our young and developing offense. Our Ogfense needs more than just 1 draft. We need a C, RG, RT, and a FB.
Mario, JR, Bush, DMC, DHB, Murphy, and Chaz need to improve and develop. we still don’t know what we have with those players. They haven’t don’t much YET.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
It was his Biological sister Len.
I like Kirk as a SLB. He as an Aztec MWfan.
Go Aztecs!!
Go The OSU!!
Damn You Mich!!
March 12th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Can’t draft a guy the F’s his own sister. Sorry.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
He is an Aztec*
I also think TH is only good against the pass. Kirk played great as a SLB his rookie season with us. He can be a solid MLB in a 3-4 scheme, behind a great line, but we font have a good Dline. IMO
March 12th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
LMAO Len!
March 12th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
I am all for change on the line.
I dont want to see the center knocked into the QB any more. Gallery seems to be the most stable, but he had a lot of health issues last year.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
Raider O Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
1- DT SUH trade our 1st and Huff to the lions.
2- ILB Spikes
3- OT Tony Washington
3- WR/ KR Jacoby Ford
4- DE Austen Lane
5- CB Akwasi Asnah, P Stoudamire, or Walter Thurmond.
5- OL: Ciron Black
7- FB
That will give us a great defense, and that should help our young and developing offense. Our Ogfense needs more than just 1 draft. We need a C, RG, RT, and a FB.
Mario, JR, Bush, DMC, DHB, Murphy, and Chaz need to improve and develop. we still don’t know what we have with those players. They haven’t don’t much YET.
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I like everything but the Huff part. I think that guy is real good and we need him. Don’t trust Branch at free.
March 12th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
Raider O
Drafting a guy in the 3rd who’s career could be over with one mistake is not good. Even if he’s found not giulty it kills his career. I also don’t care for Jacoby Ford at that position. It also looks like McClain may drop into the 2nd with that condition.
I rather the Pouncey kid in the 3rd and a HB in the 3rd as well. Also why would you give up a safety with the talent of Huff to move up 4-5 spots? If I’m the Raiders that a stiff price you can give up a backup player but Huff’s a starter. Maybe one of the 5th’s but that’s it.
March 12th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Kirk takes bad angles, over runs his gap responsiblities and gets pushed off the point of attack.
Other then that, He’s a great guy.
Simply stated, He’s miscast. Kirk Morrison is a back up at MLB on any Team that runs a 4-3.
He talks a better game then He plays.
Kirk Morrison on D = Justin Fargas on O.
March 12th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
Debo,
I dont really want to trade Huff, but I don’t think they want TK, and I’m not willing to trade any other players. I would trade all players with tenders too.
March 12th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
Thanks for the Football talk without the BS fellas.
Have a Great Weekend.
March 12th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
BHP,
Because SUH is a BEAST!
March 12th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
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March 12th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
Raider O
Drafting a guy in the 3rd who’s career could be over with one mistake is not good. Even if he’s found not giulty it kills his career. I also don’t care for Jacoby Ford at that position. It also looks like McClain may drop into the 2nd with that condition.
I rather the Pouncey kid in the 3rd and a HB in the 3rd as well. Also why would you give up a safety with the talent of Huff to move up 4-5 spots? If I’m the Raiders that a stiff price you can give up a backup player but Huff’s a starter. Maybe one of the 5th’s but that’s it.
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Totally agree with you on Huff. There aren’t many free safetys in the league I’d trade him for. There’s no way I’d trade him just to move up a few spots. I’d be a little nervous about letting TK go too. People love to kill him because of his contract, but that guy is pretty good. Pouncy won’t be available in the 3rd, will he? I’ve seen some mocks that have him going in the 1st.
March 12th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Later Len.
March 12th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
im finna tie ones on brudduz..hooze wit me…pass da peace pipe. peace out. im finna tells al to draft dat cat from da terpss…dat big mu fu bruce,..dats it mang, bruce protectin bruce…bruuuuuuuce in da hizzoo. oh snap on dat nephew.
March 12th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
So is Okung, T Williams, McCoy and Dez Bryant. I would love Suh but you’re giving away the store to move 5 spots at the most. When a 4th or 5th would do the trick. This is a very deep draft a 5th can get you a very good player same as we did with Murphy last year in the 4th. We could tarde down with the 49ers and still get Dan Williams. There is just way too much talent in this draft to play that kind of hand.
March 12th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
Suh and Seymour can create huge problems for OCs, add Matt S, and T Scott on passing downs and that’s a damn good Dline. J Richardson & D Bryant can play Base End one rushing Downs with T Scott as a WlB.
March 12th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
BHP,
That’s what I used to think, but R4 posted a link with draft picks value, and I don’t think a 3rd & 5th will make it happen. See for yourself above post #28.
March 12th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
3 years ago we gave away fabian Washington for a 4th and Tommy Trojan said it was smart and I cursed him for it. And still do to this day. Cover corners are extremely difficult to coem by and we have away a good one. He has started for the Ravens ever since. For a 4th!!!!!!
Mike Huff is a bonafide starter at FS and I would say one of the better FS’s in the league now. I aint giing him away to move up 5 spots. I might agree if we were in the 20’s and wanted to get into the top 5. but (5) spots for Mike Huff NO FREAKIN’ WAY!!
March 12th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
On rushing downs*
March 12th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
dat mike mayocks a racisst babies…hes all over dat playa russell…dats coo mang…pass dat peace pipes all daze long…ya heard me? oh snap all over dat if ya like.
March 12th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
BHP,
I like Suh more than McCoy, and I think he is the best player in this draft. He also reminds me of D Russell from USC (RIP DR). The guy destroys OLines, and he is Nasty. Look at what he did against Texas.
March 12th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Raider O, we’re on the same page as far as his talent is concerned where we part ways is you wanting to part with a damn good FS to move up 5 spots.. again NO WAY!!
March 12th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
BHP,
I told you, according to the draft chart value posted at 28, 3rd & 5th will not make it happen.
Now, what do you suggest? Other players, 2nd RD pick next year, etc..
March 12th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
The only way I would give up a 2nd is for next year if at all.I wuld also have to be gauranteed that Suh was at that spot and it was a lock that we culd get him, IOW draft day deal. I would give a 2nd in return for a 6th or 7th and move trade draft positions this year. Because what if McCoy last until the 8th due to both Clausen and Bradford going before we pick.
Until the draft unfolds you just can’t assume what will happen. Crabtree lasting until 10th overall. The best deals are made draft day.
March 12th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
I also like Lamarr Houston A LOT!
March 12th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
I like Suh, McCoy, Dan Williams, and Lamarr Houston. In that order.
March 12th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
That’s exactly what I’m talking about now a player like Lamarr Houston whom I like a lot in the 3rd would be awesome. This draft is just way too deep.
March 12th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
Even Geno Atkins from Georgia
March 12th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
I again point to my last mock. Geno might not be around that late but there’s still a pretty good chance.
March 12th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
You may be very right Midwest I haven’t studied him. It was just a guess on my part. My point is quality talent will be there to select as late as the 5th rnd. That’s just how deep this draft is.
March 12th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
Bruce
March 12th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
Just call him “honey” Vegas!.
March 12th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
With the pending rookie cap coming… Possibly. A lot of JR’s came out making this a very deep draft. That’s why I think following the draft will make or brake the Raiders this year… More so than what we do with our 1st few picks. Make or break is pretty dramatic but I think you guys understand what I’m getting at.
That’s why I try to have some fun in identifying talent. Those who don’t get picked we have an equal chance of signing.
March 12th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
# priesttj Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
MR you idiot Sapp wishes he was still here getting paid he’s peobably near broke. Did you ever see him turn down a paycheck? Sapp was a loser as long as he got paid he didn’t care. He contirbuted to a losing attitude and now blames everyone except himself.
For all the flack Javon Walker gets at least he tld the owner he was stealing money. Sapp should’ve had a mask on.
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Alright, I’ll play.
When has Sapp given any impression that he wishes he were here? Here in what capacity?
How do you know Sapp is nearly broke?
How do you know Sapp has never turned down a paycheck? Is there a way to track all of his job offers?
Sapp a loser?
What’s his career won/loss record? I know he has a Super Bowl ring. How many pro bowls? He doesn’t sound like a loser to me.
How did Sapp “contribute” to a losing attitude? Did he have a losing attitude? How so?
Sapp blames “everyone but himself”? I’ve never heard him blame everyone…just Al Davis.
March 12th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
MR I could answer every question and it wouldn’t matter because you could just say, where’s the proof.
If you listen t Sapp talk it’s emotional, it’s never objective. That say he’s affected by someting that happened. Everybody knows he wanted another contract $5-10 mill and he didn’t get it and they gave a lot of money to TK. That’s what made him snap.
Sapp is famous for saying whatever happens in a game the “check wont change”. He’s famous for that and when a young player hears that it says compete but if we lose pick up the check and keep it movin’. He was a bad example have you ever heard anyone say they miss him………NO!! and for good reason. He was here for a retirement fund……………period
March 13th, 2010 at 12:04 am
RaiderLen Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Preist, Considered “experts” never revisit history on their failures.
It’s not good for business.
Your point however is revealing.
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Incorrect. In the same segment he mentioned his under rating of Chris Johnson.
March 13th, 2010 at 12:07 am
priesttj Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
MR I could answer every question and it wouldn’t matter because you could just say, where’s the proof.
If you listen t Sapp talk it’s emotional, it’s never objective. That say he’s affected by someting that happened. Everybody knows he wanted another contract $5-10 mill and he didn’t get it and they gave a lot of money to TK. That’s what made him snap.
Sapp is famous for saying whatever happens in a game the “check wont change”. He’s famous for that and when a young player hears that it says compete but if we lose pick up the check and keep it movin’. He was a bad example have you ever heard anyone say they miss him………NO!! and for good reason. He was here for a retirement fund……………period
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Sapp was on punked once and shuckin and jivin said out loud “I’m just here to collect the check heh heh!”
Kidding or not, it always sat wrong with me.
His loud mouth ramblings and Raider bashings speak for them sleves and have been refuted by other sin the know.
Sapp says what ever gets Sapp noticed so Sapp can “collect” another check.
Mind you, all Oakland has to do to shut EVERYONE up is to start winning games….
March 13th, 2010 at 12:10 am
# RaiderLen Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Preist, Considered “experts” never revisit history on their failures.
It’s not good for business.
Your point however is revealing.
^^^^^^^^
This point of view can also be used when describing Al Davis. He was once many years ago considered a great “expert”, but now he refuses to revisit history (especially the last 7 years) on his significant failures.
Guess what….it hasn’t been good for the franchise and business……
March 13th, 2010 at 7:06 am
terrel owens would kill himself by week 6 if j russ is his quarterback
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