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Even Walker couldn’t believe his good fortune

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, March 13th, 2010 at 12:01 am in Oakland Raiders.

Turns out the local and national media weren’t the only ones surprised when Al Davis opened his checkbook for Javon Walker in 2008.

“It was a surprise to me,” Walker told the NFL Network. “But, you know, like any human, if somebody offers you something good, I wasn’t going to say no. … Really, football has never been about the money to me, but what the Raiders offered, it’s not like I’m going to turn it down and say, ‘Hey, you know, I don’t think I deserve this.’ I was like ‘OK, maybe I can be a part of the puzzle to make this organization go again.’ ”

Exactly how much money Walker received for his 15 receptions, only he and his agents know for sure. The Raiders say the stopped payment after $14 million.

Which ought to make “Commitment to Excellence” award winner Justin Fargas feel great tonight at a banquet in his honor after the he was released before the Raiders had to pay a $1.7 million bonus.

Walker isn’t the only reason the Raiders have backed off in terms of free agency, but he’s the best one.

The free agent signing of Walker has recently been judged as perhaps the worst free agent signing in NFL history.

I’m not sure the DeAngelo Hall trade wasn’t worse, considering the Raiders also lost second- and fifth-round draft picks in the deal.

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  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Seymour,

    Davis is doing a good job correcting his many past mistakes.

    He still has to actually IMPROVE the team. Addition by subtraction just allows you the OPPORTUNITY to get better.

    Still have to fill those positions with BETTER players.

    And the Raiders need to draft two players that can contribute THIS YEAR!

    No projects

  • Seymour Bush

    vegas raider Says:
    March 14th, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    As long as Stan Routt getting that tender means he is starting on the outside, I pretty much agree with every move we made this offseason.

    ***************************************

    Sorry, not with you on this one.

    First off, the salary given was way out of whack. It is peanuts compared to the disasters of Javon, Meangelo and TK, but still, overpaying is overpaying.

    Second, I just don’t see it with him. Maybe he turns it around big-time this year, and proves me wrong. I hope so.
    =================================================

    Believe me, I wanted to go down to the Alameda HQ and pack Routts bags myself. But looking at this draft, where the passing game is becoming more and more and more important (See 2009 Final Four with Manning, Farve, Brees, Sanchez) this years Corner Back crop is weak at best. Hence the resigning of (shuddder) Routt.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    All the momentum of Al this offseason might go up in flames if he takes Dez Bryant or Bruce Campbell at #8.

    Really, I just can’t see him taking anyone else. I would love Dan Williams, but that probably ain’t happening. Same with McClain and trading down.

    I honestly just hope Cable gets in Al’s ear and pitches him on the fellow Idaho Vandal and takes Iupati. At least I know he will contribute right away and fill a need. T Williams would be great, but a good chance he won’t be there and we didn’t even send a scout to Norman for his pro-day.

    Picking #8 really worries me. Everything else in the draft I have confidence Al will do OK. He has been doing so the last few years.

    It’s the first-rounders that are killing us.

  • armond

    yall trippin off dmc way 2 hard. how the hell do u know if he cant carry the load when we never give it to him. when he is healthy we never just let him run wild. how can u make an excuse for these damn qb’s but not the rb’s? they need the line as much as the qb’s do and none of yall was sayin this sh!t when he went off before both turf toes. give him the ball enuff to let him prove he cant do it.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    I think Mario Henderson comes back as LT. He struggled towards the end of the year…but hey, this was his 1st season as a starter. Young players are going to have ups and downs…he wasn’t the reason this team finished 5-11.

    I would hope we would wait until later in the draft to get a RT, RG or C.

    Receivers are no longer needed…have to develop what’s here.

    I think the pick has to be Dan Williams, pending any pro-days, interviews etc…its clear that the D-Line needs to become a playmaking position on this defense.

    Going into next year with TK and Bryant alone won’t get it done

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    DMAC doesn’t have to…nor should he carry the entire load.

    With Bush and DMAC, there are enough carries for both. They are different running backs and should provide an excellent 1-2 punch.

    Some weeks it might be Bush grinding the opponent down/….other weeks it could be DMAC slashing them.

    Now that Fargas won’t eat up carries, these two will get enough touches to develop a rhythm

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    SnB,

    I think there is a greater chance of taking a DE, and moving Dick into the middle than there is of taking a DT at #8.

    I want Dan Williams as well, but a trade up for Suh might also be more likely. If Kirk signs an offer sheet, we will have three 3rd rounders. Mix that with Al loving to trade up, and you know something will happen.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    I’m glad Fargas is gone, and I thank him for his services.

    But we can’t gloss over the fact that the offense had some of it’s best moments with him on the field.

    We scored 20 points, sadly, only 4 times. Opening night and in Denver, where we used Bush and Darren.

    The other two were the Steelers and Bengals when Fargas got the majority of the carries. We would have scored more points in the Bengals game if Bush didn’t fumble at midfield on one of his 4 carries that day.

    Fargas also grinded out the Eagles victory as well. Bush and Darren should get the shot now, but they were outplayed at times by a guy who can’t find even a backup job right now.

    Not a good sign.

  • JB

    Trade our 1st and 2012′s 1st. With our past history that second first could easily be worth a top 5 pick. Move up to the #2 pick assuming the #1 pick is NOT Suh.

    That would mean that We gave away 2 1st’s for Seymore & Suh. Both players could easily be here for the next 5-6 years barring injury. That’s a good trade in anybody’s book.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    If the Lions are actively trying to trade down, as the rumors say, than I don’t thin we would need to give up another #1.

    Give them #8, a 3rd and 5th this year, and a second next year. I think that might be enough to get them to pull the trigger.

  • JB

    Vegas

    I understand what you arre saying but we need linemen this year and this draft is full of them. By giving up 2 extra bodies this year and not getting to draft until the 3rd round next year (by giving next year’s 2nd away), we’ll never get our O-liune problem resolved. I’d rather take one future hit (i.e 2012′s #1 pick) and hope that these moves make it unnecessary to really worry about the single #1 hit in 2012. Besides, by the second round most of the sub 4.4 players are gone and we are less apt to get blindsided by that year’s best track star pick by AD.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Vegas Raider,

    The Fargas, Bush, DMAC debate is mute now. Raiders and Hue Jackson rightly made the decision.

    My biggest argument against the Raider roster is that it is full of players that are marginal NFL players and certainly not starters.

    Gerard Warren, Justin Fargas, Terdell Sands, Stuart Schweigart, Kwame Harris, Ronald Curry, Jerry Porter….and others…guys that we relied on as starters that could barely hand on in the league..let alone start.

    The Raiders, and Tom Cable in particular, over-rate talent. The roster selections on this team has contributed to the situation we are in now.

    Bush and DMAC are fine as RBs. RBs need carries to produce. Check out Bush’s stats when he gets 10+ carries…which was rare.

    DMAC, a home run hitter, needs more cuts at the plate to hit those homeruns.

    Fargas was a singles hitter and guy to hit a sac-fly…but not a guy to throw the game on his back to win.

    Let’s hope decisions are rendered for Tommy Kelly (overpaid), Michael Huff (overpaid), Cooper Carlisle, Samson Satele.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Vegas Raider,

    Trading up is not an option. Suh and McCoy are 3-techs, a need, but if TK is staying, then you aren’t trading up.

    Williams is the gap stuffer. Different skillset in my opinion. Don’t need to move up to get him.

    Seymour should stay at DE. He anchors the edge, a problem that was so bad that Davis had to trade for SEymour at the 11th hour.

    Not sure I want to see a 1st round DE in Oakland. Sounds like another opportunity to get wowed by 40x

  • Seymour Bush

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    March 14th, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    Vegas Raider,

    The Fargas, Bush, DMAC debate is mute now. Raiders and Hue Jackson rightly made the decision.

    My biggest argument against the Raider roster is that it is full of players that are marginal NFL players and certainly not starters.

    Gerard Warren, Justin Fargas, Terdell Sands, Stuart Schweigart, Kwame Harris, Ronald Curry, Jerry Porter….and others…guys that we relied on as starters that could barely hand on in the league..let alone start.

    The Raiders, and Tom Cable in particular, over-rate talent.
    ===================================================

    Every single one of the guys you mentioned pre dated Cable with the exception of Kwame Harris who actually came here on Kiffins watch. And Cable was the one who got rid of him.

  • Scottish Raider

    I would love to see Dan Williams on our roster but not for the No8 pick. Not enough position value – better to take an OT and use the 2nd round pick on a DT (Atkins, Cody, Thomas).

    If we could trade down five/six/seven slots and get an extra low 2nd or high 3rd, then Williams becomes the right pick.

  • JB

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    March 14th, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    Let’s hope decisions are rendered for Tommy Kelly (overpaid), Michael Huff (overpaid), Cooper Carlisle, Samson Satele.
    ************************
    Whether Kekky is overpaid or not ius not really all that important unless it’s from YOUR checkbook. We need beef in the middle and right now, aside from Seymore & Bryant we have no one else. Kelly just needs to play more to his ability and he’ll be fine especially if we can put Suh in there next to him. As far as Huff goes, again the same comment about being overpaid as before. Besides, I thought he was really starti g to turn the corner this last year and playing to his ability. Carlisle & Satele are another story. Carlisle is out of gas. Satele is back-up quality at best. Both need to be relegated to the back-up position or the street. We need, this year, a new ORT, ORG, C & MLB. Whether they come from FA or the draft, I don’t care. We just need to address the lines and MLB and stay away from WR, RB & other so called skill positions. REBUILD THE LINES and good things will happen.

  • Seymour Bush

    Matt Shaughnessy is a classic Tom Cable guy. Over achieving, high motor, loves the game type of guy with not the greatest athletic skill set. The high motor type of guys we have haven’t seen here since Howie.

  • Seymour Bush

    Taking Bulaga or Anthony Davis @ #8 and then grabbing one of the solid Dlinemen in the 2nd (Alualu, Cam Thomas or preferably Lamarr Houston) would be a nice way to begin the draft. Of course if Rolando McClain is sitting there at 8….

  • 901Raiders

    Browns trade Wimbley to Raiders Per PFT.

  • 901Raiders

    Cleveland Browns president Mike Holmgren is having a busy day trading away former first-round draft picks.

    In addition to trading 2007 first-round pick Brady Quinn to the Denver Broncos, Holmgren also traded 2006 first-round pick Kamerion Wimbley to the Oakland Raiders.

    Adam Caplan of Scout.com first reported the trade.

    The Browns selected Wimbley, an outside linebacker, out of Florida State with the 13th overall pick in 2006. He burst onto the scene as a rookie with 11 sacks and has started every game but two in his four years in Cleveland, but he hasn’t been quite lived up to the promise he showed as a rookie.

    There’s no word yet on what the Raiders sent to the Browns in exchange for Wimbley