Even Walker couldn’t believe his good fortune
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, March 13th, 2010 at 12:01 am in Oakland Raiders.
Turns out the local and national media weren’t the only ones surprised when Al Davis opened his checkbook for Javon Walker in 2008.
“It was a surprise to me,” Walker told the NFL Network. “But, you know, like any human, if somebody offers you something good, I wasn’t going to say no. … Really, football has never been about the money to me, but what the Raiders offered, it’s not like I’m going to turn it down and say, ‘Hey, you know, I don’t think I deserve this.’ I was like ‘OK, maybe I can be a part of the puzzle to make this organization go again.’ ”
Exactly how much money Walker received for his 15 receptions, only he and his agents know for sure. The Raiders say the stopped payment after $14 million.
Which ought to make “Commitment to Excellence” award winner Justin Fargas feel great tonight at a banquet in his honor after the he was released before the Raiders had to pay a $1.7 million bonus.
Walker isn’t the only reason the Raiders have backed off in terms of free agency, but he’s the best one.
The free agent signing of Walker has recently been judged as perhaps the worst free agent signing in NFL history.
I’m not sure the DeAngelo Hall trade wasn’t worse, considering the Raiders also lost second- and fifth-round draft picks in the deal.
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March 13th, 2010 at 12:10 am
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March 13th, 2010 at 12:13 am
priesttj Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
MR I could answer every question and it wouldn’t matter because you could just say, where’s the proof.
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Yeh. That’s kind of how it works. And until you do show the proof, you have not a shred of credibility.
March 13th, 2010 at 12:17 am
priesttj Says:
March 12th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
If you listen t Sapp talk it’s emotional, it’s never objective.
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And with you, it’s always objective.
March 13th, 2010 at 12:21 am
same with Sapp as with me sometimes we say things we shouldn’t because we’re upset.
March 13th, 2010 at 12:24 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 12:07 am
Sapp was on punked once and shuckin and jivin
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Do people still shuck and jive, Nnamdi? Did he do “The Hustle”, too?
March 13th, 2010 at 12:26 am
Don’t worry, I’m stuck in the late ’90s. I would say Sapp was “choppin it up”. But shuckin and jivin…wow. That’s pretty dated.
March 13th, 2010 at 12:36 am
Nnamdi21, since he mentioned CJ why didn’t he mention Brady Quinn? He said B4 the draft that he had Quinn as a solid #1. Then added he wouldn’t touch Russell. lol
Now he’s heralding Jimmy Cluasen and I know why because of Charlie Wies wh said that Quinn would be on of the top 3 QB’s in the league in 3 years. It would be Manning, Brady and then Quinn automatic.
And I’m here to tell you tonight that Jimmy Clausen is a flat out BUST…………period but Mayock wont say the same things about Clausen he said about Russell and they have some of the same sort of flaws outside of the weight. Leadership questions, entitlement and lack of focus questions. But he’s saying Clausen should go in the 1st rnd. Why? I’ll tell you why he’s white, His coach and the school. Mayock is a phony……….period
March 13th, 2010 at 1:10 am
Jerry was up late tonight.
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
Javon wanted to quit & give the money back, but Mr. Davis begged him to take that money by talking him out of it. Cant be mad at Javon Walker for that, as a matter of fact with the way the NFL screw the players in their contracts, I applaud Javon Walker. Good job Javon!
March 13th, 2010 at 2:33 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 12:24 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 12:07 am
Sapp was on punked once and shuckin and jivin
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Do people still shuck and jive, Nnamdi? Did he do “The Hustle”, too?
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23 skidoo! All jive talkin to this hep cat Daddy-o!
March 13th, 2010 at 2:35 am
Way to go. Thanks Jerry!
Delhomme walked away with nearly $13 mill but at least they got some play out of him at one time.
Walker was a bust-o matic and lets not forget, he and MeAnglo were Kiffin-ites.
Don’t get me wrong, Davis signed off, but these cats were Kiffin’s kids just as much if not more.
March 13th, 2010 at 2:39 am
7. Perty sure Mayock wasn’t the only one touting “The most NFl ready QB” that draft.
It was a shocker draft day when he plunged down the boards.
I think they did interviews with him and realized he was a over hyped and smug.
Russell has been the worst not only becasue he was a #1`, but his productions been so bad, but have no illusions, Vince Young till only recently looked bad. (I’m gonna kill myself!) and Lienart hasn’t exactly lit up Arizona.
QB’s are hard to come by for most teams.
March 13th, 2010 at 6:14 am
My girlfriend is graphic designer, she just made me a cool T-Shirt…
Ninjas And Pirates Agree: Cowboys SUCK…
Man I love that girl =)
March 13th, 2010 at 7:04 am
Good Morning Nation!
March 13th, 2010 at 7:07 am
terrel owens would kill himself by week 6 if j russ is his quarterback
March 13th, 2010 at 7:35 am
Nobody wants Fagas!
Browns won’t pursue Fargas, either!!
March 13th, 2010 at 8:02 am
City Center buffet blows R8eray.
You think the Rebels are favored this morning? Going to go down and check it out in a second.
Haven’t looked and I would say they are 3 point favorites.
March 13th, 2010 at 8:27 am
I think teams were going to draft Brady Quinn earlier, but when he showed up to the green room, with tons of makeup, lip gloss and a total homo outfit, they decided to pass.
March 13th, 2010 at 8:39 am
Javon is laughing all the way to the bank. I can’t believe he was willing to give the $$ back before the season started, and Al didn’t see that as a red flag that his playing days were over!
March 13th, 2010 at 9:04 am
The dude is a Space Cadet, there are many starting WR that are making 7 mil a year with the top making closer to 10 mil per year.
It is not the money but this clowns total lack of pride. Under the word wack and bum they should have this guys name.
I keep hearing about this guy and Hall, what about the Cowboys giving up a 1, 3, 4 & 7 draft pick for that WR from Detroit, there are busts all over the NFL and the Raiders have had more then their share of late.
March 13th, 2010 at 9:28 am
# SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 7:07 am
terrel owens would kill himself by week 6 if j russ is his quarterback
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He’d kill Russell, and then tell everyone in the press how Al Davis is meddling with the gameplan. That’s why I want him here.
March 13th, 2010 at 9:40 am
BHP,
Lamarr Houston will not be available in the 3rd ( I wish he would, so I can draft Spikes in the 2nd, and Williams in the 1st).
L Houston is a 2nd RD pick, and he would be a 1st RD pick on a Weaker DT Class.
March 13th, 2010 at 9:52 am
1- OT Okung, T Williams, or B Campbell
2- Lamarr Houston
2- ILB Spikes (trade 3rd & 5th)
3- WR/ KR Jacoby Ford
4- DE Austen Lane
5- CB Akwasi Asnah or Walter Thurmond
7- FB or OT Tony Washington if he is available.
March 13th, 2010 at 9:56 am
# Raider O Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 9:52 am
1- OT Okung, T Williams, or B Campbell
2- Lamarr Houston
2- ILB Spikes (trade 3rd & 5th)
3- WR/ KR Jacoby Ford
4- DE Austen Lane
5- CB Akwasi Asnah or Walter Thurmond
7- FB or OT Tony Washington if he is available.
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I could certainly live with that, but isnt tony washington the one who slept with his sister?? If that is the one, he is gone before round 3…
That said, I would like us to go after QB Kafka in the 3 round….
March 13th, 2010 at 10:04 am
OR:
1- Trade up for DT SUH (trade our 1st and TH) Keep Kirk as SLB.
2- ILB Spikes
3- RT Kyle Calloway, Tony Washington, or Sam Young
3- WR/ KR Jacoby Ford
4- DE Austen Lane
5- CB Akwasi Asnah, P Soudamire, or Walter Thurmond
5- OL Ciron Black, M Johnson, or J Jerry
7- FB
March 13th, 2010 at 10:06 am
# Raider O Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 10:04 am
OR:
1- Trade up for DT SUH (trade our 1st and TH) Keep Kirk as SLB.
2- ILB Spikes
3- RT Kyle Calloway, Tony Washington, or Sam Young
3- WR/ KR Jacoby Ford
4- DE Austen Lane
5- CB Akwasi Asnah, P Soudamire, or Walter Thurmond
5- OL Ciron Black, M Johnson, or J Jerry
7- FB
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Really? You really thnk thats possible? lol. This isnt Madden.
March 13th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Yes LMN. He has with his biological sister when he was 16. She was 15, and now he is a registered sex offender.
March 13th, 2010 at 10:11 am
DD,
I wish it was. lol
March 13th, 2010 at 10:15 am
BTW, other than Austen Lane and Akwasi, I think that draft is possible.
March 13th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Vegas, thanks for the 411 on Chity Center!
What about your Lobos?
It will be a tough one vs San Diego St.!!!
March 13th, 2010 at 10:33 am
Seriously, there is a guy who slept with his sister at 16??
Uhhhh…I think I’ll pass on that one. Dude is sick in the head, and good judgement is not a strong suit apparently.
March 13th, 2010 at 10:38 am
jason pierre-paul, bank on it.
March 13th, 2010 at 10:38 am
R8eray,
I think SDSU played about as good as they could play yesterday. Great game though. UNLV is playing their best ball so far this year, IMO. They are 4.5 point favorites.
So you helped build this place, huh? It’s pretty nice, good sportsbook, smoking cocktail waitresses. Way overpriced, but what isn’t on the strip?
March 13th, 2010 at 10:40 am
how’s the draft being run this yr., 1st rd. on thursday and 2nd & 3rd on friday?
March 13th, 2010 at 10:45 am
just hearing about mcclain’s pro-day, did well, guy is 6′4” 260lbs, runs a 4.6 and is the defensive qb by all means. i would like him but with no help up front he would be a wash, unless u get a cody in rd 2.
March 13th, 2010 at 10:46 am
but then u leave the o-line neglected and that is a big problem.
March 13th, 2010 at 10:51 am
RaideroutLA,
The two Super Bowl teams have 5th rounders and undrafted guys on their O-lines, and ZERO 1st round picks on the O-line.
We will be all right if we don’t go O-line in the first, if we invest both 3rd’s or a 2nd and a 5th or something like that.
But I wouldn’t T Williams at #8.
March 13th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Meant… “I wouldn’t mind T Williams at #8″
March 13th, 2010 at 10:58 am
i heard the raiders didn’t even send a rep to okla’s pro day. kinda brings doubts about drafting t.will
March 13th, 2010 at 11:02 am
In fact, trying to find the last Super Bowl team to start a 1st round pick they drafted on the O-line.
09- Colts-Saints NONE
08- Steelers-Cardinals NONE
07- Giants- Patriots NONE
06- Colts- Bears I don’t think any
05- Steelers- Seahawks Walter Jones
Not saying that you can’t go to the SB with a first-rounder on O-line, or that the O-line is not important. But the NFL is a copycat league, and I want to copy what the Super Bowl teams do. They got 1st round picks at the offensive skill positions and LB, great QB’s, and use FA and mid-round picks on both lines.
That’s just the truth of the matter.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:03 am
my concern is that our o-line is full of guys not drafted high except for rob and they pretty much stink.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Compare that to the 1st round picks starting at skill positions
09- Peyton, Addai and Brown, Dallas Clark, Wayne; Bush and Meachem
08- Santonio Holmes, Heath Miller and Ben; Fitz
07- Eli and Plax
06- Peyton, Addai, Wayne, D Clark; Rex and Benson
05- Ben, Miller; Stevens, Shaun Alexander
March 13th, 2010 at 11:11 am
so we must be set at our skill positions then.lol
March 13th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Satele-2nd rounder
Mario- 3rd rounder
Bob- #2 overall
Carlisle-4th rounder
Green- undrafted
Colts
LT-6th rounder
LG-3rd rounder
C-undrafted
RG-undrafted (recently released)
RT-2nd rounder
Not really much of a difference.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:15 am
raideredoutL.A. Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 11:11 am
so we must be set at our skill positions then.lol
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LOL, yeah no shyt. Once DHB starts playing like Fitz, Plax, Holmes or Wayne we should be good to go.
Not holding my breath.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:17 am
our team is a broken machine point blank.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:18 am
My thoughts as the picks stand now – really hoping we can find someone to move back with and acquire a few more picks:
Sign Mawae
8)Trent Williams
39)Pouncey or Ducasse either would start at RG
69)Yes we have pick 69! Geno Atkins
87)Cam Thomas
Rd4)Austen Lane
Rd5)Riley Cooper
Rd5)Walter Thurmond
Rd7)Anthony Harding (FB – Fresno State)
Vegas, we have already used our 1st round picks on the skill positions last few years.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Once we get settled at the QB position we will be good. All those teams you listed have good players at the QB position. Then NFL is a Quarterback driven league.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:28 am
i see alot of people here like walter thurmond as a possible draft pick but of what i heard of him from locals here since i now reside in west covina where he went to high school, he likes to blow on some sticky and thats a red flag for any possible draft pick.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:30 am
I agree Ghost, when you got Peyton at QB, you can just rotate in undrafted RG’s and it really doesn’t matter.
I think better O-line can will really help our Run game a lot more than the passing game. Certainly it will help the passing game as well, but I don’t think as much as the running game.
Look at a lot of Russell’s picks, and he isn’t even touched. The SD int, both Denver picks, in SD on the opening drive. The guy has all day, and either the WR doesn’t make a good play on the ball, or the pass is either inaccurate or is a poor read.
If we are looking for a 2nd round pick rookie O-lineman to fix our passing game in 2010, we are in a world of hurt. And sadly, that is kind of what we are banking on.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:30 am
maybe it was just a phase in his life like many people but the oregon football environment probably didn’t help him too much either. in reference to walter thurmond.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:31 am
Not as worried about Thurmond’s dro habit as much as his 3 MCL tears.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:33 am
i haven’t seen anything to say we’re heading in the right direction right now, it might be a little to early to say but there’s too many holes to fix.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:34 am
There were times when Jamarcus should have just taken the ball down and ran for whatever the defense was giving him. Being too confident in his arm has gotten him in trouble. Gannon was best when he realized their was no play and he was able to run for demoralizing first downs. That’s when the defense gets flustered and then they make mistakes.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:35 am
true that vegas #52. a buddy from work was jocking him, then told me he blew one with him before, no wonder.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:40 am
got my son’s b-ball game and stock up for fight night, my pops is pumped up with the undercard and not with the main event. i look to see clottey take a beating in the first 7rds then start to chip away at manny. i see it closer than others but then i wouldn’t be surprised if its a boring 12rd unanimous decision 4 tha pac-man.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:42 am
When you listen to former QB’s who are announcers, they always say that sometimes the best play is to just throw the ball away.
Can’t really ever remember Jamarcus throwing the ball away intentionally more than once or twice in 3 years.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:42 am
what if gannon woulda took off and ran in the superbowl ?
March 13th, 2010 at 11:42 am
clottey reminds me of the simpsons episode where homer’s a boxer and lets everybody wear themselves out and finally pushes them over to win the fights.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:47 am
its going to feel good to drink some cold ones after winning $250 on my b-ball pix last night and another 2 bills the week before. go money, oh i mean go raiders!
March 13th, 2010 at 11:47 am
If my aunt had balls shed be my uncle. We lost because we didn’t have the normal two weeks off between the AFC Championship game and the Super Bowl. And because our center went BiPolar. O yeah and the guy who had basically orchestrated getting us there was on the opposing team sideline. I’m still more pissed about the snow job game. The NFL took that post season away from us.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:48 am
The over/under of the rounds for tonight is 10, and most of the action is on the under.
Manny is just too fast for these guys, and throws a ton of punches.
Manny TKO in th 6th.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:50 am
she’d be (sorry)
March 13th, 2010 at 11:52 am
I watched the Super Bowl rerun for the first time since actual gameday a year ago.
Couldn’t believe how much we were dominating the first quarter, and didn’t capitalize. I think Tampa Bay went INT, 3 and out, 3 and out (with Rod Woodson dropping an easy INT).
Than the wheels just fell off.
March 13th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Scottish Mock Draft No3:
1st: Charles Brown OT USC
I know that he is rated behind Campbell, Williams and Davis but I think this guy is better suited to our scheme, better coached, safer character and under-rated.
2nd: Brandon Spikes ILB Florida
A leader, great against the run and a hard tackler. He will fall because ILB is not seen as a high value position but we have a huge need and he’s a no-brainer.
3rd: Tyson Alualu DT California
We need another DT and he is going to suit our 4:3 set-up. Strong, aggressive and still developing.
3rd: John Jerry OG Ole Miss
Very strong, mobile and ideal for our scheme. Carlisle is on the way down, we need a bigger, meaner RG and Jerry has the pedigree.
4th: Zane Beadles OT/G Utah
Has the size and strength to play RT but could equally cover the Guard positions. Not the finished article but has real potential. This is a deep draft for Olinemen and we need to be stocking up.
5th: Rico McCoy OLB Tennessee
Should have stayed at school for another year but is a great prospect. Really fast and aggressive – he needs to strenghten up but will replace Alston as a star on special teams.
5th: Patrick Stoudamire CB Western Illinois
Small school but has the best height, speed combination of the later round propects. Not a starter in 2010 but real potential – and will also contribute on special teams.
7th: Chris Hall C Texas
I think he is really under-rated. He is over 300lbs, mobile and smart. He can also cover all the inside positions. He has to be an upgrade on Morris.
March 13th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Scottish
Agree with your line focus in this draft and it will happen this April.
I have called almost every purge since Cable took over and Warren is just the latest.
No one will acknowledge it but JR has already renegotiated.
He will not set foot in camp otherwise at $9mill this season and he still might get cut if he does not improve substantially.
Kelly will renegotiate as well or he will be gone.
They are last two poor value guys on this team.
We will go OT DT and OG in that order in April.We are back on track.
Warren, Green, Walker, Burgess, Hall, Sands, Wilson etc. have all been booted by Cable with the blessing of Mr Davis.
March 13th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
am i the only here hooked on QB Kafka? let bruce play a few years, let Kafka hold the board and later be the starter….
and let Russell eat…
March 13th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
I want to hear Al’s apologist’s defend this fiasco: $933,000 per catch. C’mon, tell me what a genius he is with his 3 trophys and HOF induction.
March 13th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Mario Henderson is our left tackle and were not getting a RT with the eighth pick in the draft. There’s lot’s of good DT’s in this draft and were drafting Al’s favorite that’s still available at 8, Pierre Paul, Brian Price, or Dan Williams will be the pick
March 13th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
The Raiders are just so damned stupid
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Exactly how much money Walker received for his 15 receptions, only he and his agents know for sure. The Raiders say the stopped payment after $14 million.
Which ought to make “Commitment to Excellence” award winner Justin Fargas feel great tonight at a banquet in his honor after the he was released before the Raiders had to pay a $1.7 million bonus.
March 13th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
They just can’t do ANYTHING right.
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Exactly how much money Walker received for his 15 receptions, only he and his agents know for sure. The Raiders say the stopped payment after $14 million.
Which ought to make “Commitment to Excellence” award winner Justin Fargas feel great tonight at a banquet in his honor after the he was released before the Raiders had to pay a $1.7 million bonus.
March 13th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Krappy, couldn’t you just have condensed those two posts into one?
It would’ve been a simple 2 sentence post followed by your traditional cut and pasting. Honestly, I may never understand what goes on in your Krappy old brain.
But it sure makes it easy to rip on you! Awesome!
March 13th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
inonewordraider, Al has been well-burnt by expensive DTs – he ain’t going to pay $20m+ for another one. I personally think Dan Williams is the safest pick in the whole draft. Al won’t spend the money.
Sands = expensive mistake
Warren = expensive mistake
Kelly = very-probably an expensive mistake
Seymour = jury out
It will be an OT if we stay at No8. But if we trade down a few spots, then Dan Williams might appeal to the Ol’ Dribbler.
March 13th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Dumb Beech,
You have the KoolKell watch today?
March 13th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Dumb Beeych
How much are you paid to watch me? Or do you guys do it for free?
March 13th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Krappy, I can still get you that job tonight serving shrimp cocktails on my Reggae Party Cruise for about $4 an hour.
That’s good money, old dude! After about 20 years, you’ll be able to put half a down payment on the Swiss chalet.
But I’d need you in Marina Del Rey in about 6 hours!
March 13th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Beeych,
I think you were right the first time. Arbys is about your speed.
March 13th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Krappy, I’m NOT promising anything, but after the Party Cruise I usually take 6 or 14 hot horny ladies back to my place for a hot-tub-after-party-slow-jam.
And you’re invited … to serve us chips and guacamole in a banana costume. $3 an hour plus a free margarita.
Offers like this don’t come around everyday, old dude!
March 13th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Dumb Beeych
Really?
March 13th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Yes, Krappy – this is a REAL offer!
Let me ask you this – What will it take to get you down here to work my Reggae Party Cruise tonight?
See, I’ve told all the ladies that there will be this wacky old waiter who’ll serve tasty shrimp cocktails while reciting the Raiders record over the last 7 years all night long.
I can’t disappoint my babes, Krap Krap!
March 13th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
So Dumb Beeych,
You’ve got a Reggae Party on the Sacramento River tonite? and you can’t find any help? Take em to Arbys.
March 13th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
You People…
March 13th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Vegas, Tampa always had a slow offense, and we did not dominate the first quarter. Gannon was barely getting the time to get the snap. We only got the field goal because of C. Woodson’s pick, which was only due to the ball slipping out of B. Johnson’s hand. Our offense was shut down against their D, entirely. Then Gruden put the nail in the coffin with that 10 minute drive to start the 3rd quarter.
March 13th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
KK,
God Damn Man!
Why don’t you act your age, and Aren’t you a Buddhist too?
March 13th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
Krappy, the Reggae Cruise leaves from Marina Del Rey and jams its way down coast, mon! We stop off for some shots and make out sessions in Newport Beach, then head back.
I’ve got help, but we really need the “Blog Personality” KrappyKell on board to get the ladies super hot with your stories of remodeling your house and falling asleep in the shower.
Krappy, time is a wasting!
March 13th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Dumb Beeych,
It took you a while to come up with that one, lol
March 13th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Dumb Beeych
Instead of going to Arbys tonite, why dont you spend some quality time with Mom. Maybe spray her crack for crabs?
March 13th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
My bad, Krappy – had to rub bronzing cream on some Brazilian exchange students (front and back, if you know what I mean).
Anyway, why don’t you and KrappyWife hop on a Jet Blue flight, leave her at the airport, then come work the Party Boat?
I’m telling you, the party people will eat up your stories of how your built your state of the art web site in only 8 short years!
March 13th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
So Dumb Beeych,
You’d rather spend time with me rather than your Brazillan exchange student?
You are a Dumb Beeych aren’t ya?
March 13th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Dumb Beeych?????????????holla
March 13th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Krappy – DUDE – they’re bronzed up and want to tan in peace for the next 4 hours. What are you, a weird old pervert?
Uh, nevermind.
Anyway, I’ve gotta round out the crew for the Party Cruise. Krappy, I’m not going to lie, I need you on that boat, old pal.
My guests were promised that a deranged old blogger will be stumbling around the boat in a banana costume serving them shrimp cocktails, and I’m not going to let them down, dammit!
March 13th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Dumb Beeych
Shrimp Cocktails?????? lol. So 80’s.
If you want me at your Arbys’ party, you have to suk my dik first, ok?
March 13th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Krappy, I’m sure you’re used to plenty of gay Reggae Cruises in Alameda, but here in So Cal we party straight. Like Kool Moe Dee.
Now that doesn’t mean some of the busboys won’t be into getting it on with an old man in poopdeck after the cruise.
But, if I hire you, you have to at least PRETEND to be straight – not like you were in the Navy – while my ladies are getting loose on margaritas.
March 13th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Dumb Beeych
You suk my dik first, and I’ll come to your party, ok?
That’s the deal, take it or leave it.
March 13th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Is that a deal Dumb Beeych?
March 13th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Whoa Krappy – obviously you’re totally horny for man love right now! I guess after all those years in the military, you really know what satisfies you.
No problem, old dude – I’ll get a few of my Guatamalan deck hands to attend to your gay needs. Geez, you drive a hard bargain, you creepy old queer!
Now get on the Jet Blue flight – we gotta a Reggae Cruise to run!
March 13th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
No Dumb Beeych,
I want YOU to suck it. Deal?
March 13th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Krappy, no matter how many times you beg me for it, I’m not a raging queer like you and simply cannot meet your homosexual needs.
I’m truly sorry, you old gay, but I’m into hot tanned ladies. I thought you and other members of the Bay Area gay community were more accepting of lifestyles other than your own.
Man, you gay sailors sure get all worked up when you need male satisfaction!
March 13th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Well Dumb Beeych, I guess you’ll have to entertain the waitress at Arbys without me.
March 13th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
MR,
Brad Johnson was creamed by Regan Upshaw which caused the C-Wood pick. We actually got a first down or two our first drives, and Brown dropped a first which would have continued the momentum in 2nd quarter.
The 2nd quarter is when everything fell apart. After the first 3 drives, I think we had 50 yards and they had under 10 yards, and we already had one pick and dropped another.
March 13th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Krappy, did you just pop a few dozen Viagra or something? You’re a like the horniest old gay dude in the history of the blog.
Anyway, if you don’t accept my generous offer – $4 an hour plus being pleasure by my Guatamalan deck hands – I’m going to give the job to Mexican dude who cleans up my koi pond.
C’mon Krappy – this offer COULD change your life!
March 13th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Dumb Beeych
You’ll have to suk the mexicans guy’s dik too. You might as well suk mine, no?
March 13th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Look it’s bad enough we are spending this beautiful saturday afternoon on a football blog, but this takes it to new heights.
Seriously fellas???
March 13th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Vegas
I’ve got floor duty this afternoon. I’m here till 5.
I’m taking offers…………..
March 13th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Ok, Krappy, Felipe said yes, so he’ll be rocking the Party Cruise tonight and hanging with the hot ladies.
Gotta go pour some Aloe Vera on the Brazilian exchange students’ private parts and then pick out the song list for tonight.
Anyway, I hope you find a man – hopefully a fellow creepy sailor – to exchange man passions with.
Being a gay old blogger hopped up on Viagra, I imagine you’ll be sodomizing the Hot Pockets in your freezer in a matter of minutes!
Bon Voyage, Krap Krap !
March 13th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
Dumb Beeych
Have a nice delusional time tonite.
March 13th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Dan Williams is the NT we’ve been seeking and word is Pierre Paul can’t stop the run but Al saw what Orakpo did to us so he’ll be tempted to take a similiarly athletic Pierre Paul. If the Rams take Bradford and Al really likes Suh he’ll try to move up and get him
March 13th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Now Where’s Reekofchit????
Vegas, that little tard called my office yesterday, was put into my voicemail, and blew a horn into it.
Aaah the internet tough guys, eh?
March 13th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Now I understand why you are always talking about money, property, travel, etc…. Someone with your mentality and attitudes will always be POOR.
March 13th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Raider 0,
Judge not lest you be judged.
March 13th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
God Bless you Bro. Do your thing.
March 13th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Raider 0
I posted football talk in #71. Dumb Beeych jumped out at me immediately with personal crap.
Talk what you know and let the rest go.
March 13th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Honestly Kell, with the viralness of what people say to you on here, I am pretty suprised it didn’t happen earlier and/or more often.
Not saying it’s your fault, but if someone is going to post dillusional comments almost daily FOR YEARS running now, a phone call certainly doesn’t seem out of the question.
Now, that Jivon Walker contract. I think Walker would say the same things in his interview the other day, if Al gave him HALF the contract he did. How does one bid against himself?
March 13th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Jivon walker is not the issue. Al Davis is.
March 13th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
That’s what I said
March 13th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Al Davis is the GM, he’s 29-83.
Yet, you want to talk about Javon Walker, a player he overpaid?????????
March 13th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
Did you read what I said? “How does one big against himself”, is a clear shot at Al’s humongous disaster signing of Javon.
I am not talking about Javon!!!!
March 13th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Al Davis paid Javon Walker 15 million for 15 catches, and your scorn is directed at Walker???????
Is Javon Walker ruler of the Raiders?
March 13th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Like I said: do your thing.
Tell us more about your great life.
Tell us more about your service in the military.
Tell us more about your property.
Call people racist.
Talk about issue when you are ignorant.
Ask other for gay sexual favors.
Act your age! I feel sorry for you.
March 13th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Now, that Jivon Walker contract. I think Walker would say the same things in his interview the other day, if Al gave him HALF the contract he did. How does one bid against himself?
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?????????????????? maybe I am getting old.
March 13th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Raider, Zero,
Pray for me, ok?
March 13th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
From an article:
“Since then, Walker, who appeared in three games for the Raiders last season, traveled to Israel to have an experimental surgery (without the team’s knowledge) in which cartilage from his knee was regrown, then inserted into the knee. Walker said the procedure, which is usually performed on soccer players, has allowed him to regain his explosiveness at age 31″.
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Wouldn’t it be a real pisser if it turns out he can still play and be effective? We just released him and now he’s supposedly good to go. The saga continues….
March 13th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
I will bro. I want you to be above this crap, and that’s why I posted something. I don’t dislike you.
It bothers me to see a man your age act like you do. You are going to die soon, don’t you have better crap to do than argue on the Internet?
March 13th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
I’m a passionate Raider Fan since 1964′. I’ve lived a wonderful life.
You handle your business, I’ll handle mine, ok O?
Do I judge you?
March 13th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Is that even arguing? A good argue every now and than is healthy for the mind.
This childish nonsense, is not good for anything but Jerry’s hits.
March 13th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Vegas
I argue against Al Davis everyday. I suffer the slings and arrows for it.
Why don’t you holier than thou fukkers ever chastise Doofus Boob, Reekofchit, Dumb Beeych?
March 13th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Vegas
I argue against Al Davis everyday. I suffer the slings and arrows for it.
Why don’t you coward holier than thou fukkers ever chastise Doofus Boob, Reekofchit, Dumb Beeych?
March 13th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
I post fact & figures everyday to support my posts. I get taunted with racial ephithets, yet you cowards never say a word.
March 13th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Oh yeah, the black guy, married to a white woman, he’s the racist. Go fuk yourself.
March 13th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
You people …
Take the keyboard away from the Retard!
Damn!!!
March 13th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Raider O Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
You people …
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Do you see a “you people” quote anywhere In my posts?
Post it or stfu.
March 13th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
STFU!!
Listen here you talking Monkey.
I would slap the black of your face ! Maybe then you would STFU you ignorant Monkey!!!
March 13th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
JB Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
From an article:
“Since then, Walker, who appeared in three games for the Raiders last season, traveled to Israel to have an experimental surgery (without the team’s knowledge) in which cartilage from his knee was regrown, then inserted into the knee. Walker said the procedure, which is usually performed on soccer players, has allowed him to regain his explosiveness at age 31″.
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lol wow surgery in israel…. yeah thats why all pro athletes are going there for successful surgeries… i bet they have really good sterile technique during cases. LMFAO
March 13th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
You are a Bad Monkey!!
March 13th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Raider O
Lol. I’ve posted my bonafides. At your service………
March 13th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
All you mfkrs know where I work now. Leave your name & number.
March 13th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
All of you: Stick to Raider football. Knock off all the personal attacks. Personal attacks only benefit AD & company. Let’s keep our eye on the ball and try to figure out why this organization we all feel so strongly about is so fukked up on a continual basis.
Let’s figure out how to fix things in spite of AD. Short of that exchange e-mail addresses and beat up on each other in private.
March 13th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
I bet you like being slapped you fat ignorant monkey.
You are a bad Monkey!
March 13th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
JB Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
All of you: Stick to Raider football. Knock off all the personal attacks. Personal attacks only benefit AD & company.
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Exactly, that’s why I’m stalked in here.
March 13th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
That was fun Monkey. Not as entertaining as ricky Bobby, but you are old and ignorant.
Later Monkey!
March 13th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Raider O
Why don’t you go slap your woman around, I think that’s the best you can do, today.
March 13th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Let’s figure out how to fix things in spite of AD. Short of that exchange e-mail addresses and beat up on each other in private.
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i couldnt agree more
March 13th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
You guys like to hurt each other dont ya?
March 13th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
What are you really mad at Kell?
March 13th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Based on what KK has indicated (i.e. been following the Raiders since 1964 – me too) we’ve both seen the good & the bad. We’ve seen AD at his prime and unfortunately at his recent worst. My sense is that the game has just passed him by and that combined with a little dementia has produced the crap we’ve seen this last 7 years. Older people are not quite as sharp as they were say thirty years earlier. I think that’s what’s happening now. Al’s game, the one that he triumphed in has changed dramatically. Al simply cannot adapt. He can’t wrap his mind around that which needs to be done today in order to be successful. He’s yesterday’s tycoon who simply can’t delegate responsibility for a myriad of reasons. It’s also unfortunate that he’s surrounded himself with some real losers (i.e. Herera & Taylor) who’ve done nothing to resolve the problems. They are just yes men picking up a paycheck for doing absolutely nothing. In essence, they are administrative HO’s.
Based on all the above it would seem to me that nothing will really change until AD does. The same crazy schit will continue until he is unable to continue. WORD.
March 13th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
raider O u talk alot of sh!t about people stereotyping but then say youll slap the black off of koolkells face. does he get to slap that turban off your head? how do u get off sayin sh!t that u suppose to be against?
March 13th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Do you know your father you fat monkey? Can you read you monkey? Go cry to you tropfy white whore!
March 13th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
who cares who’s got brazilian models? or who is a failed real estate guy?
March 13th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Armond,
Go finish your tacco!!
March 13th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Raider O – What are you, 13? You certainly act like it. Please take your ball & go home – back to your room.
March 13th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Are you even legal in this country, and do you pay taxes. Is somene else writting tour post cause you can’t speak english?
March 13th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
JB,
Go play monkey!
March 13th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Raider O – That what I thought. A teeny bopper trying to be a tough guy. The best way to deal with people like you when you act like this is to totally ignore you. You have zero credibility and are irrelevant. As long as you behave in this fashion you wil ot be allowed at the grown-ups table. Go to your room and stand in the corner. We simply will not recognize you the remainder of the day.
March 13th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
whos the idiot that said we should draft that tony washington guy??? the guy that banged his sister???
March 13th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
JB,
You are another talking monkey. Go play with you truck, drink beer, and talk about crap you don’t understand!
March 13th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
# 30 year raider Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
whos the idiot that said we should draft that tony washington guy??? the guy that banged his sister???
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The person we are now ignoring. Kind of fits doesn’t it?
March 13th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
it looks like were finally gettin rid of all the garbage and then we bring in a rapist???? wow wtf are you thinking???
March 13th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Monkeys are pack animals!
March 13th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Raider O Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Armond,
Go finish your tacco!!
Raider O Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Are you even legal in this country, and do you pay taxes. Is somene else writting tour post cause you can’t speak english?
——————————————————-damn u really are ignorant arent you? funny how fake u are talkin all that cant we all get along sh!t and now your TRUE COLORS are comin out. then u have the nerve to talk about kk. u thinkin im latino shows how much more of a fool u are and what u think of them. u better watch it tho cuz i might be more legal here than u are buddy. btw its your not tour. maybe u should let someone write english for u.
March 13th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
i thought this was an OAKLAND RAIDER BLOG REGARDING JAVON WALKER???
March 13th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
I didn’t think you guys will care so much. Some of you monkeys are sex offenders so why care?!
March 13th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Raider O
Take the veils off that funky bytch of your’s and slap her around, Or, leave your name and number.
March 13th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Armond – What part of ignore wasn’t clear? Responding only continues the cycle and the attitude is not going to change based on what we have to say.
The best way to deal with that tpe of personality is to just skip over it and move on.
March 13th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Holy Crap!
The freak show is in full swing tonight. Settle down fellas, it’s still early.
Howya doin 30 yr?
Raider O, you ok tonight?
March 13th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Is the monkey angry now? Calm down.
True Colors!! LMAO
March 13th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
KK – you too!
March 13th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Raider O
I hear them muslim bytches get pretty funky under all that shyt. Is that true?
March 13th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
True Colors!!
You are a stupid monkey!
You think I care enough to try to impress you!
You are another talking monkey!
March 13th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
I’m outta here. Later guys.
March 13th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Wassup Raider O, as far as the draft talks continues, I met an old Raider fan who played football for San Jose Sabercats, the guy follows football intensively, there are rumors that he is one of the big bookies in San Jose. Anyways, story short, he says the Raiders shouldn’t draft any of the OL high at number 8 except Okung, he thinks taking McClain is the best few sure things this draft offers at number 8. He also says we should take Javhid Best if he is available at round 2. He also for open competition and thinks DHB will learn how to catch the ball but DMAC might never be an elite back in this league, he think Bush when motivated he plays well but he sees him as a backup RB. Do you really think running back position is a need for this draft?
March 13th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Sorry JB
I know I’m not acting my age
March 13th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
Not as funkky as your mom!
March 13th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
jb i understand what ignore means and i dont need u to tell me. im actually not bothered by him just surprised he of all people resorts to what he always claimed to be above. dont worry tho im a football poster 99.9% of the time. but trust me he wont go away cuz there are 2 many like him on here. anyway how about them raiduhs!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 13th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
I hope not my mom is dead. But maybe you can kiss her ass too.
March 13th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
damn touched a nerve didnt i? u dont care to impress but keep reapeating TRUE COLORS. this type of behavior normally happens when its true. dont trip it was a matter of time before it happened.
March 13th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
We may do that R4. We showed interest in him, so you never know.
March 13th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Aaaah yeah, it’s always the holier than thou mfkrs.
March 13th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
KK,
I will! lol
I had fun dude. I take it back. You are more entertaining than Ricky Bobby. lol
March 13th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Armond
What you think of having Javhid Best in the second round?
March 13th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Armond,
Interesting.
True Colors!
March 13th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Ok, Floor shift is over/out.
March 13th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Kell,
By any chance have you read: “You’re okay,it’s just a bruise”. by the Raiders former team physician Dr. Robert Huizenga? It’s a hell of a read, and an intense look at the inner workings of the Raiders. It also paints an oftentimes unflattering portrait of Al Davis. Therefore I think you would really enjoy it. If you haven’t already, I suggest you read it.
March 13th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Later Gents & talking Monkeys.
Legalize it!
True Colors! Word!
March 13th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
whats up BUCKEYE this is outta control bro…like a bunch of women on here
March 13th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
BTW, it’s fun to troll sometimes! I couldn’t help myself today.
Armond,
If you are ever in the SD area come see me. I like to have a smoke session with you. You would see my “True Colors” lol
March 13th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Thanks Buckeye, I’ll check it out. seems like I heard that before.
He was the guy who testified for O.J. too, no?
March 13th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Out of control this evening.
March 13th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
Everyone count backwards from 10 and take a deep breath.
Peaceful, calm blue ocean.
Ohhhhm, ohhhm, ohhhhm…..
March 13th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Vegas
I argue against Al Davis everyday. I suffer the slings and arrows for it.
Why don’t you coward holier than thou fukkers ever chastise Doofus Boob, Reekofchit, Dumb Beeych?
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There is no hope with those clowns. I figure a little prodding might get you to take the high road.
March 13th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
# buckeyeraider Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Kell,
By any chance have you read: “You’re okay,it’s just a bruise”. by the Raiders former team physician Dr. Robert Huizenga? It’s a hell of a read, and an intense look at the inner workings of the Raiders. It also paints an oftentimes unflattering portrait of Al Davis. Therefore I think you would really enjoy it. If you haven’t already, I suggest you read it.
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Looked the book up & read the reviews. Looks interesting. Ordered it. Thanks for the tip.
March 13th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
On a somewhat lighter note, I see the Pats-Eagles super bowl is on NFLN.
This was the peak of my gambling degeneracy. I had very little money other than my rent money so what to do? Fire all the rent money on the Patriots moneyline.
If the Pats would have lost, no rent and probably would have moved out of here 4 years ago.
Ahhh…..good times!!!!
March 13th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Vegas
What do you think of a need for a running back and drafting Javhid Best in the second round? An old friend told me Raiders need a new RB
March 13th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
That book give some interesting insight into what, in my opinion, at least prior to last seven years, was the darkest chapter in the raiders storied history..the cause of the Al Davis v.Marcus Allen feud.
However, My favorite part of the book is his first hand account, as the teams phys., of probably the most brutal football game ever played. A game played in Soldier field vs. the Bears in 1984. The Raiders were the defending super bowl champs, and it was obviously the year before the ‘85 Bears superbowl. The Raiders knocked Jim McMahon out for the rest of the season with a lacerated kidney. The Bears responded by knocking out Marc Wilson twice, and knocking out two of his backup, David Humm’s teeth.
Unfortunately, the Bears won. I’ve seen Mike Ditka mention that game several times on ESPN as the moment he knew his Bears had “arrived”. By surviving that slugfest with that great Raider team. The part that stung is when he added,”that was when the Raiders were really the raiders”. Ouch.
March 13th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Armond
What you think of having Javhid Best in the second round?
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I think you can’t dangle a sub 4.4 forty in front of Al and not have him seriously consider it.
If he is there in the 2nd, Al will probably scoop him. I would love to see him returning at least kickoff’s and he could be our best back.
March 13th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Vegas
I met an old Raider fan who played football for San Jose Sabercats, the guy follows football intensively, there are rumors that he is one of the big bookies in San Jose. Anyways, story short, he says the Raiders shouldn’t draft any of the OL high at number 8 except Okung, he thinks taking McClain is the best few sure things this draft offers at number 8. He also says we should take Javhid Best if he is available at round 2. He also for open competition and thinks DHB will learn how to catch the ball but DMAC might never be an elite back in this league, he think Bush when motivated he plays well but he sees him as a backup RB. I am not high on Mcclain but I just don’t see a variation between the remaining OL in the first round and others available in the second round. I think we should improve our defense with the first and second. I don’t mind MLB and DT in the the first two rounds and RT, RG in the third round.
March 13th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Yeah Kell,
I believe he did testify in the OJ trial. God, that brings back memories. I was a Court TV junkie back in the day. That OJ trial was riveting. The William Kennedy Smith rape trial also. Now that was some “reality TV”.
March 13th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
4eve,
Here’s my way of looking at the #8 pick. I am a value guy.
I don’t want the 3rd or 4th T off the board at #8. If T Williams is there I could roll with that, but no Campbell or Davis, two guys with motivation issues. I would rather have the #1 ILB (McClain) or even Iupati the #1 guard. I would be OK with Dan Williams, because DT is our biggest need, IMO.
I am not sold on any of our RB’s. It seems like the only time they are good, is when our O-line plays lights out. What NFL RB wouldn’t be good when the O-line is dominating? Bush has his moments, and Darren is best suited for a H-back type roll, with more catches than carries. So Best kind of makes a little sense, although his injury history kind of worries me. However, I don’t think he will be there when we pick in the second. I see the Rams, Lions or Chiefs taking him ahead of us in the 2nd.
March 13th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
i dont think taking a rb in rd2 would do any good with a beat up line that we currently have. we can go after a rb later in the draft rd4 or 5… i like ben tate out of auburn hes moving up the board or Blount…but i would not take a back with any of our first 4 picks…once again need a ot og/c dt mlb with our 1st 4 picks
March 13th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
2nd day RB’s are no good.
Look at the top backs in the league and look where they got drafted.
March 13th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
I like Trent Williams, I won’t touch Iuputi to be honest with the 8th overall pick. Mcclain is a the sure thing in the top ten. I seriously think this year draft is filled with many potential OL except in the center position, a position we need. I still think Satele is at best a backup center, when you have a position between Satele and Chris Morris, you know you in trouble. I think AL Davis should sign some veterans for this OL, for all you guys who think drafting RT, RG, C would solve our line problems, I would say you guys need to wake up. Very rarely does a line with three starting rookies work. Just like having two rookie wrs is complete lunatic idea, having a rookie RT, RG and C is a bad idea. An offensive line need time to establish a form of cohesiveness. I also think shifting starters around is a bad idea because it creates too much confusion for them. So moving Henderson to RT or having Walker as RG is bad idea. Don’t get me wrong, I am not saying not to draft OL, all I am saying to expect them to contribute right away is crazy idea. Maybe you can have one rookie start and other play as backup but a whole new unit hmm I don’t agree. I think we need to sign a veteran like Mawae and a guy like Chester Pitts to play C and RG.
March 13th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Top 10 RB’s: Seven 1st rounders, two 2nd rounders, and one 5th rounder.
It’s like that every year. RB’s come and go so quick in this league, that teams like Carolina have one of the top RB’s in the league (Deangelo) and still spend another 1st rounder on a RB (STewart).
Not saying we go RB at #8 this year, but in a year or two we should probably go down that route again. Hopefully we will be picking more towards the middle or later of the draft and not in the top 10.
March 13th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Iupati would be a reach at #8, but in the grand scheme of things, I would rather have him than Campbell or Anthony Davis. That crazy Idaho fckr gets after it and loves football.
You want to see how to fix your O-line, look at the Jets. They drafted a LT, and than filled in the rest with a combo of expensive in their prime Pro-Bowl lineman and cheap, been around the block vets. I would love that idea, with maybe ONE rookie on the line at RT or RG.
I don’t hate Satele as much as others. He was a 2nd round pick by Bill Parcells, and was coming off shoulder surgery last year. He has another year to prove his worth.
March 13th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
I guess I’m a lot higher on Satele @ C than most of you. The guy was trying to play with a bum shoulder, as well as coming to a new team. A center has to make all the line calls, which are every bit as important as the QB reading the D and making his calls. I’m hoping we see a much improved Satele this season. He was the second rated center in the draft the year he came out behind Ryan Khalil of USC. He was described as a nasty brawler, street fighter type.
As I said before, I finally went back and watched the Thanksgiving game v. Dallas. Two things stood out to me. One, Grads looked very mediocre. Two, Samson Satele got absolutely worked over by Dallas NT Jay Ratliff. He was getting thrown around like a rag doll.
I believe this year Satele comes in healthy, and hopefully a lot stronger.
March 13th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
I’m starting to take a liking to Iupati, either @ eight, or a trade back up into the middle of Rd 1. A guard might be a “reach” at eight, but I think this kid could be the second coming of the Wiz. Or something along those lines.
March 13th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Dallas was Bruce’s worst game.
Would have been a different game if he could have connected with DHB on that crossing route in the first half, and if Scott wouldn’t have gotten in Branch’s way on the int.
We did play just as competive as the Eagles did the last week of the season and the playoff game the following week.
March 13th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
Alright folks, glad to get it back to football on here, my work here is done, going to go throw em back downstairs at City Center.
March 13th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
im finna buys me a black hole shirt…wears it all over da place ya heard me?…im finna start da new Raiduh revolution babies…pass da peace pipe…whos wit me…oh snap it off mo fos.
March 13th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Well, we gotta have a backup plan if Satele’s game doesn’t improve. As far as Vegas comment, Bill Parcel drafted the kid so high but there must be a reason behind trading him. Also, Roy Williams resigned with the bengals for a year, I hoped we get him and convert him to SLB, the guy is good against the run and can blitz in passing situation, he only signed for a year, I wonder how much they are paying him. I think the Raiders need a veteran C either Mawae or Fraley, a RG either Pitts or Lilja and a veteran SLB unless Morrison plays that position. I am not high on Ricky Brown
March 13th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
i would be ok with 2 rooks on the ol… im all for signing mawae to give some veteran leadership. i thought langston walker played pretty decent for getting pushed into action… i think the verdict is out tho on satele. he gets pushed back 60% of the time i know he was not 100% so maybe hes had a chance to get better this offseason…you know if barnes can get right to his 06 – 08 form that would really be the most ideal situation…
March 13th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Good evening, Raiders fans! I just got back from taking Dee back home to North Carolina and snorted a perc 30 to sooth my aching knee. I’d have stayed there for the night, but I have pressing matters here in the morning… plus staying there would have further complicated a situation in which I’m trying my best to do nothing and let it evolve as it will on its own. How is everyone tonight? Is there any news that I’ve missed since my last visit?
March 13th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Iupati would be a reach at #8, but in the grand scheme of things, I would rather have him than Campbell or Anthony Davis. That crazy Idaho fckr gets after it and loves football.
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How about Brian Bulaga? Kids a playa.
March 13th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
other than raider o and kk ripping each other for hours no not really
March 13th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
bulaga smart that better be our pick if we go ol and he is on the board at 8
March 13th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
listen either way if we go ol or dl rooks will be playing this yr and there gonna be playing heavy min..
March 13th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
The best DL prospects most likely will be gone by #8. I would be happy if McClain is there. Notice how no other team has paid a 3rd rounder for our 5 year starter? What does that tell ya?
March 13th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
WTF?
I got booted off. Told me I was posting too quickly, and wouldn’t let me post anything. Hell, I hadn’t posted anything in like 20 mins. Anybody else ever have this happen?
March 13th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
4Eve,
I believe we already have a younger, faster version of Roy Williams on this team. His name is Mike Mitchell.
March 13th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
wut you said?
March 13th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
# buckeyeraider Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
WTF?
I got booted off. Told me I was posting too quickly, and wouldn’t let me post anything. Hell, I hadn’t posted anything in like 20 mins. Anybody else ever have this happen?
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yeah. It’s lame.
March 13th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
30
But don’t we all wanna see this team competing next year?
I mean I am sure most of us are sick and tired going 5-12, you won’t me remind you about a two teams that had many rookies playing in their team, Detroit Lions and Rams had the most rookies playing for them last year, have you seen their records. I don’t know about you but I think this is the best year to win the division, KC is improving and two years they will be damn good again but they still a weak team, Denver is so and so, SD is definitely regressing especially with many disgruntled players like Merriman. This division is open next year and we also gonna be playing against a weak NFC West. If we sign Mawae and Chester Pitts, plug in a rookie in RT, get some help in MLB and sign a veteran Wr like T.O, start either Grad or JR (if he wins open competition), we can go 9-7 and win the division. Its better then having rookies starting RT, RG, C, DT, MLB and FB. The will be another wasted year besides developing these guys. The more time we waste developing, the more wear and tear we putting on our veterans like Seymour and Asmough. A mix between veterans and rookies is the best way this team can improve, build for the future, sign veterans for now. Besides, we are not talking about huge contract guys like Walker or Hall. We are talking about guys who just want a playing time and chance to compete.
March 13th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Seymour,
I’m going to try my best not to get my heart set on a particular player or players like I did last year with Rey M, and Mack. That only leads to disappointment when the Raiders pass them over, and somebody else drafts them. As long as the draft focuses heavily on O-Line, D-line, and MLB, in any order, I will be satisfied.
March 13th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
It happened to me too
March 13th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
4eve
were doing something way different here than we have in the past were dumping useless pieces of crap players who dont produce first of all. ive been wanting this spring cleaning for quite some time now! were gonna bring some fa in, who we dont know yet, do cable and jackson have an idea i would hope so… 9-7 is definately do-able.!! pitts or lilja would be worth bringin in along with mawae…
March 13th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Buckeye,
You say MM is a younger version of Roy Williams. Please explain how you came to that conclusion. Thanx.
March 13th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Ron,
Roy Williams was a pro bowler earlier in his career, while MM is still young and very much unproven. But, I’d say their similarities are that they are both very physical, and excellent blitzers, while their weaknesses are their supposed liabilities in coverage. MM doesn’t have any rule changes in his honor yet, but he still has his whole career ahead of him.
March 13th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Buckeye
What i said was we could have offered Roy Williams a two year deal instead of one and plug him as our starting SLB. I dont think AL wants him to be converted to SLB.
March 13th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
i would say thats a very accurate assesment of the missle
March 13th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Buck,
Good blitzer?? Hmmm… How did you come to that conclusion?
March 13th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
I am sorry, I was typing too fast that didn’t make any sense. Let me try again, Roy Williams was offered one year deal from the Bengals, what I was hoping was that we offered him a two year deal so he can play SLB not SS. I dont think AL wants MM to play SLB. Roy would have been a beast against the run and good blitzer in third situations.
March 13th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
roy williams himself would not want to play slb fulltime because he knows himself thats not his position..
March 13th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Buck, even Wiz was drafted in the 2nd rnd. Never draft a guy in the interior line that high it’s way to easy to get a G or C much later. OT’s are very hard to come by that’s reason they go that high. If tey don’t make it at T they can kick inside. Then you’d have better interior lineman.
March 13th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Ron,
No offense man, but do you even watch Raider football?
Alright, MM seems to have a knack for effective blitzing. He doesn’t even have to be at the line, he times his blitzes well and can come from ten yds deep in the secondary, and hit the LOS at the snap of the ball. And when he arrives at the QB, he arrives with a bang.
Go back to his infamous youtube highlights from college. He almost killed Todd Boekman of OSU in the shoe.
I believe he had 2-1/2 sacks as a rookie. By the end of the year, he was almost a designated blitzer in J. Marshall’s exotic, by Raider standards, blitz packages. I don’t know how many QB pressures he totaled, but it had to be quite a bit. He got a nice shot on Kyle Orton, and probably should have gotten 15 yds for giving him a shot to the back of the head. He unloaded on Jason Campbell, and in the season finale vs. Baltimore, he had Joe Flacco running for his life the whole damn game, so Yeah, I’d say he’s an excellent blitzer.
And I believe, we’ve only seen the tip of the iceberg.
March 13th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Roy Williams a SLB? LOL! That must be a joke. Good one 4eva. LOL! After that amybe we can make him a DT or a
March 13th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
http://www.atdhe.net watch pacman fo free nephew.
March 13th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
4eve,
you’re not making sense, why wuld you want a less athletic player than the one you have at slb in t howard?
March 13th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
# vegas raider Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Vegas
I argue against Al Davis everyday. I suffer the slings and arrows for it.
Why don’t you coward holier than thou fukkers ever chastise Doofus Boob, Reekofchit, Dumb Beeych?
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There is no hope with those clowns. I figure a little prodding might get you to take the high road.
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The fact he’ll get his ass handed to him on a platter is more likely the reason he wisely backs out, while knowing you’re a defenseless worm, Kelli.
March 13th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Priesttj
I think our SLB should be good against the run, Howard is cool but against the run, he struggles as I am sure you aware of.
March 13th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
lmao…Priest looks toasted….again.
March 13th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
# 30 year raider Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
4eve
were doing something way different here than we have in the past were dumping useless pieces of crap players who dont produce first of all. ive been wanting this spring cleaning for quite some time now! were gonna bring some fa in, who we dont know yet, do cable and jackson have an idea i would hope so… 9-7 is definately do-able.!! pitts or lilja would be worth bringin in along with mawae…
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9 games? win almost twice as many games as last year, when the only “improvement” is “improvement by subtraction”?
Not sure how that equates out.
Getting rid of someone who’s dead weight, without already having a replacement means that players backup, who was not as good as the released player, is now in the lineup.
And FA?
Pickins are slim
March 13th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Goodnight Fellas.
March 13th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
LOL!! Im sure a converted safety would be WAYYY more stout against the run than TH. Where do these people come from??
March 13th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
say wut?
March 13th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
# buckeyeraider Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Holy Crap!
The freak show is in full swing tonight. Settle down fellas, it’s still early.
Howya doin 30 yr?
Raider O, you ok tonight?
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lol…didn’t you mention something last night how I should lighten up on Kelli?
Kelli does his crap with everyone..he deserves to be a target…
And so he is.
March 13th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
4eve it’s easier to play SS they can hide you there in a scheme. At SLB you are responsible for the TE straight up inline and in coverage. he can’t physically handle that. At SS we can at times cover up Tyvon but the SLB is man up at the POA. RW cannot do that, your concept is OK but in practice he would struggle badly. TE’s would out physical him and beat him on routes h cannot cver at all.
March 13th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
richochet
last season.. week one loss handed to the boltz by the freggin refs.. kc at home driving for the winning score when darrius heyward DROPUS loses it off his head.. week 17 vs balt i thought we could have taken that one theres 3 gqames right there that could have been in our back pocket..so i see 9 wins as very feasable..
March 13th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Now Where’s Reekofchit????
Vegas, that little tard called my office yesterday, was put into my voicemail, and blew a horn into it.
Aaah the internet tough guys, eh?
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WTF?? lol….damn dude…you’re losing it.
Sorry whining old man..can’t be bothered.
Oh..wait..let me guess? When I state “I called your office, and they said you haven’t been there in months”?
YOU BELIEVED I ACTUALLY CALLED?
LMFAO…damn…stupid, gullible, a liar, and a racist..hell of a way to go through life.
Pretty ignorant to state “I got a call…must have been him”…then again, it IS YOU, lol.
Dude..look at you.
You’re is a pissing contest with EVERYONE HERE..no..not a lot..not many…almost EVERYONE HERE you get in your little exchanges with. Hell, I can list minimum 15 posters here that have labeled you as a liar, a racist, and an idiot.
16, including me
The good news? Doesn’t matter what happens to you…you think it’s me.
Cool
March 13th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
the whole roy wiliams thing playing sam is ridiculous
March 13th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
30 year…but the Raiders haven’t improved the team. By some accounts, it’s in a deficit.
Granted, some players released weren’t great, but who’s the replacements?
Lots of teams have added during the last few weeks..but not the raiders.
March 13th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
Man, this Pacquio fight was the most boring boxing game I ever saw in my life. Clottey didn’t even win a round in imo, waste of money and time. Can’t wait for Mayweather aka MoneyMaker vs my boy Sugar Shane Mosley who I think can beat the crap out of Mayweather and should have fought against Pacquio long time back.
March 13th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
raidersfeve,…wut you say… http://www.atdhe.net had da brawl on fo free homie. oh snap on dat foo.
March 13th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
Biz
Yeah, but I watched here in my spot, we share the cost, 10 bucks each guy and I supply the beer and nachos. So watching the match wasn’t expensive I got that covered its the amount of beer and money, I put on lol, its all good I lost some of the profit I made in gambling.
March 13th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
raiders4eve i just saw u asked me about jahvid best in the 2nd rnd earlier today. i say i would have no problem getting him. he can run inside and out along with making people miss. he breaks tackles well enuff and he catch/return kicks.the question becomes do we pass up another talented player at more of a postion of need. i feel we have good backs but we dont feature them enuff nor is that line good enuff to let them.
March 13th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
i would really like to know what our draft strategy is like. we havent signed any1 yet so its hard to get a feel for what we’ll do. i suspect this will be a big defensive draft with an olineman or 2.
March 13th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Hey Armonkey,
There is a lot of crap you need to know but draft strategy isn’t one of them.
You Monkeys!
March 13th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
I love you Monkeys!! lol
March 13th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
Well, to Javon’s credit, he tried to hand Al his money back and call it quits but the crazy old geezer, in his great wisdom, convinced him to stay.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
when asking about whether we should consider Javid Best or any other RB I submit the following thoughts:
A GREAT o-Line can make mediocre RB’s look great – Denver did that for years.
A great RB with no O-line to open holes him rarely succeeds.
Let’s please rebuild the dominating lines first before we bring in any more highly rated RB’s. We already have two RB’s that should be better than average. To date, with our current O-Line, they are less than noteworthy.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
# Try Some Reality Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
Well, to Javon’s credit, he tried to hand Al his money back and call it quits but the crazy old geezer, in his great wisdom, convinced him to stay.
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Yes, Al Davis told him “you are a great athlete. Get over it. Now get back to practice”.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
Agreed JB. Should have worked on rebuilding this line years ago. DHB was a wasted pick. That sissy could have been had in the late 1st or early second. The Cable experiment with just plugging in guys that can play in the ZBS has failed. We need players.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
Right now, 60% of our O-line are back-up level players at best. Carlisle is beyond long of tooth and may not even make the squad next year. Morris & Satele are barely qualified to be back-ups. Hendrson is coming along but is certainly ot a sure thing – no consistency yet. Gallery is about the only dominant player on the O-line and even he is questionable with his recent injuries. It’s a god thing that this draft is rich in linemen. We need a bunch of them. Hopefully AD will agree and with the exception of a MLB, dedicate all draft picks to the lines – both of them.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
Yes, Al Davis told him “you are a great athlete. Get over it. Now get back to practice”
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LOL. Sad thing is, that’s probably closer to the truth than we’d like to believe.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
Yeah. If I’m the Raiders, I roll with Henderson, Gallery, and sign Mawae (might just have another year in him). I’m good with keeping Satele for depth, Then draft O-lineman like they’re going out of style. That said, I agree that Gallery’s injuries are concerning and Henderson hasn’t proven himself yet.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
JB Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
when asking about whether we should consider Javid Best or any other RB I submit the following thoughts:
A GREAT o-Line can make mediocre RB’s look great – Denver did that for years.
A great RB with no O-line to open holes him rarely succeeds.
Let’s please rebuild the dominating lines first before we bring in any more highly rated RB’s. We already have two RB’s that should be better than average. To date, with our current O-Line, they are less than noteworthy
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LB leveling FB too please!
March 13th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
Where is priest with all his propaganda? Came in here looking for a laugh but no sign of priest.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
raider o give it up dude u sound like a whiny little biotch. as for draft knowledge u sure arent one to talk with your 10,000 mock drafts. lets trade tommy kelly thomas howard the 8th pick and our 2nd to get the #4 pick. yeah that makes alot of sense doofus. also, i read your comments and i dont know if that was a challenge but i dont think u wanna go there. i also dont need to get high for that. now just sit back and let the FOOTBALL posters talk.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
id be happy with t.williams with the 8th pick. dude is just as athletic as campbell but a better player and he can play lt/rt so it gives us options with mario. we will definately get a couple dlineman with all of the depth there. hope we get spikes as our mlb as well. i wasnt big on d.williams at first but now im jumpimg on that bandwagon more.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
LB leveling FB too please!
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Anyone know what the latest is on Oren Oneil. That dude showed some promise. Is it over for him or is he giving it a hot next year?
March 13th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
*shot* not hot
March 13th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
You guys think this could help Russell as well?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4993938
March 13th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
# Try Some Reality Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
You guys think this could help Russell as well?
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Probably not but this might work:
http://www.kookieintl.com/Merchant5/graphics/00000001/3298_small.jpg
March 13th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
Armonkey,
“Challenge” “doofus” “Football posters”
You are a Monkey!
March 13th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
If OO doesn’t return why can’t we just use Tony Stewart to backfill the position. He’s big, can run & block, can catch, so what else is required? If we are just talking about lead blocking he should do just fine – actually better than Lawton can do IMO.
March 14th, 2010 at 12:07 am
What’s the backup plan for when Bruce gets injured in like week 3?
March 14th, 2010 at 6:09 am
Good Morning!
March 14th, 2010 at 6:10 am
Where’s everybody at?
March 14th, 2010 at 6:19 am
Man…it’s lonely!
March 14th, 2010 at 6:20 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EEW-9NDM5k
March 14th, 2010 at 7:04 am
Hello? Anybody there?
March 14th, 2010 at 7:10 am
Good morning Ray,
What’s the youtube link you posted? My computer is rather antiquated. Doesn’t play videos very well. Takes forever to load, and usually just boots me off. Matter of fact, when my wife gets home, were supposed to go buy a new one. My 12 year old has been pestering me for awhile. Dad, can we get a new computer? Ours stinks.LOL.
March 14th, 2010 at 7:15 am
I smell change comming in the autumn wind
right now in europe soccer players in the past had contracts like Walker and it started to cripple the game… many teams are still fighting being deducted points if they fall under finacial regulations..set by admistrators….because of these type of player contracts
i can sadly see the great NFL going down the same road..this kind of thing has to stop,even Walker said it was crazy….hopefully things will become clearer in the next few months bargaining agreement…but heads up to Walker for his honesty
March 14th, 2010 at 7:20 am
Lonely by Akon…..
March 14th, 2010 at 7:22 am
The Autumn wind
“The Autumn wind is a pirate
Blustering in from sea
With a rollicking song he sweeps along
Swaggering boisterously
His face is weather beaten
He wears a hooded sash
With his silver hat about his head
And a bristly black moustache
He growls as he storms the country
A villain big and bold
And the trees all shake and quiver and quake
As he robs them of their gold
The Autumn wind is a Raider
Pillaging just for fun
He’ll knock you ’round and upside down
And laugh when he’s conquered and won”
March 14th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Here we go again!
March 14th, 2010 at 8:26 am
I guess everyone is sleeping in today!
March 14th, 2010 at 8:49 am
JB Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
when asking about whether we should consider Javid Best or any other RB I submit the following thoughts:
A GREAT o-Line can make mediocre RB’s look great – Denver did that for years.
A great RB with no O-line to open holes him rarely succeeds
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While I am not going to say that you are wrong, I would submit to why is it that the top rushing backs year in and year out are 1st round picks, and often the first or second backs taken in their respective drafts?
Last years top 10 rushing backs had 7 1st rounders, two 2nd rounders, and than Ryan Grant (a 5th rounder). The weird thing with Grant is that the O-line is generally considered the weak spot of the Packers offense.
I don’t think Bush or McFadden would be anything other than a backup for 90% of the teams in the league.
March 14th, 2010 at 8:51 am
Morning R8eray!!
This City Center is not getting a return visit from us. Impressive building, but all the services suck.
March 14th, 2010 at 8:56 am
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
What city center are you in, VR?
March 14th, 2010 at 8:58 am
I dunno Vegas …
I need to see a decent game plan to determine what Bush or McFadden can do. They looked damn good in game 1. You know, the last time we saw an original game plan from Cable.
March 14th, 2010 at 9:00 am
I have to imagine that we are going Dline at 8.
At this point, we only have 2 DTs on the roster, and only 3 DEs.
Kelly and Bryant at DT
Seymour, Shaugnessy, and Richardson at DE.
Am I missing anyone?
March 14th, 2010 at 9:16 am
I hope it’s not a DE at 8. I think Morgan & Jason Pierre are a reach @ 8.
Trade up for Suh!
March 14th, 2010 at 9:25 am
The Best DTs in this draft IMO are Suh, McCoy, Dan Williams, Houston, Odrick, Price, and G Atkins.
March 14th, 2010 at 9:27 am
Why are so many people hyperventilating over the Raiders lack of activity in Free Agency? (They’ve actually been very active…adding players to the pool.)
Besides possibly desiring the talents of a RB Thomas Jones or Larry Johnson, who else would’ve suited the team’s purposes at the “right” price? So many people have been hammering Al for paying too much for players…where’s all the praise for exersizing some sound fiscal judgment?
Newsflash: The Raiders have almost completely rebuilt their team — even before adding a handful of new players.
Now, the right adds (especially at MLB/OL/DL) would virtually clear the decks of all under-achievers and deadwood. And no, JaMarcus, DHB and DMC are not deadwood yet. JaMarcus and DMC are getting mighty close though, but DHB has at least another year to show he belongs (regardless of salary).
Just as I think adding another veteran QB to the mix is a good move (unless Losman really can provide the competition)…I think we need to add a GOOD veteran WR to the mix.
T.O.? I don’t think we need to go there…LaVeranues Coles provides better hands (4 drops last year and 5 TD’s), the same speed and knowledge of the game…and a TON less baggage. Of course…T.O. brings a TON of publicity. And the freak show atmosphere. Give me Coles, please.
March 14th, 2010 at 9:33 am
As for DEs, I like B Graham (Damn You Mich), Dunlap, Morgan, and Austen Lane.
March 14th, 2010 at 9:37 am
More sound fiscal judgment would be to bring back Gerard Warren on the cheap if possible (who knows what the market is for his 31-yr-old body?). He’d be a great backup/mentor/part-time player for the price.
March 14th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Raider O — Is it really you? Or has someone taken your handle and run with it?
March 14th, 2010 at 9:41 am
Vegas, what happened with the Rebels?
March 14th, 2010 at 9:43 am
HD37,
It was me bro. lol
I was smoking & trolling with KK.
Legalize it!
March 14th, 2010 at 9:46 am
HD37,
If you can’t beat them, join them! lol
I had fun.
March 14th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Walter Football mock draft predicts that we draft CB Chris Cook (6′2 212, ran a 4.4+), and passing on RB J Best.
I don’t think Al will pass on Best in the 2nd. He ran a 4.3+, so he is a Great Player!
March 14th, 2010 at 10:05 am
I guess the bottom line here is that Al way, way underpays his middle backers and way, way overpays his wide receivers. So he will never wind up with a Junior Seau type (which he really needs) and half the time winds up with head cases as wide receivers. And unless the sun rises in the west and Al drafts Rolando McClain in this draft, the trend will continue. We should also omit (for Al’s sake) any embarrassing mention of offensive tackles, quarterbacks, and defensive linemen drafted in the first round in the past. Maybe Al will live up to his “I’d rather be right than be consistent” motto and actually draft a ILB early, because he’s been pretty consistently bad drafting the glamor boys.
March 14th, 2010 at 10:08 am
Does JBest have the violent on-field attitude necessary to be a successful RB in the NFL? You know, the one Fargas had/has. Better yet, does he have the talent/attitude combination to let him EXCEL at this level?
One guy with attitude — who’s likely to keep it channeled appropriately as he’s maturing — is LaGarrette Blount. He may be a lot less expensive than JBest, and have the same potential for success in the NFL.
This year’s Draft may be as fluid as we remember… teams have so many needs, and the Draft is deep. Hopefully the action will live up to the prime-time billing.
March 14th, 2010 at 10:22 am
My Draft priorities today, pending FA signings and/or trades:
Rd 1 – ILB (or OL. McClain in my book, though)
Rd 2 – OL (or ILB)
Rd 3 – D-Line
Next 3 picks, best player available: RB/DB/OL/DL
Mario Henderson can get the job done…the bigger question is whether or not Robert Gallery will be able to help him do it. Gallery’s back makes it imperative the Raiders get new blood on the O-line.
March 14th, 2010 at 10:40 am
If the the signings and throwing away of money to Walker and Hall and the way the old man handled the draft last year doesn’t prove to you demon Al worshippers that the old looney man hasn’t LOST it….then your LOST yourselves! LOL
March 14th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Just curious….but how many of you here have called Raider headquarters and asked to be transferred to Herrera or Trasks voice mail to vent and complain about the way things are being run and the way the franchise is going down the tubes??
How many of you?
March 14th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Al Davis and and his decision making are freakin LAME!
March 14th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Even worse than paying Walker all that cash was to bench him when he was ready to play..
Oh wait we had JLH & DHB tearing up the NFL, and tj’s FAVORITE WR “Nick Miller the DB Killer” so playing Walker just wasnt necessary.
Ok I got it..
March 14th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Sooooo whats up with the predictable white media giving Big Rapist Ben a pass and not being all over him like they would if it was a minority like McNabb, Kobe, Lebron or even Sanchez??
Hmmm….typical and predictable.
Can’t wait for one of you morons to say the typical dumb response of “stop playing the race card”.
News break: Racism still exists in this country sadly….accept it, instead of denying it and turning a blind eye.
March 14th, 2010 at 10:50 am
LMAO @ “Nick Miller the DB Killer”
March 14th, 2010 at 10:54 am
O, you never saw tj call Nick Miller the Db killer ?
March 14th, 2010 at 10:57 am
# HayesDaze37 Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 10:22 am
My Draft priorities today, pending FA signings and/or trades:
Rd 1 – ILB (or OL. McClain in my book, though)
Rd 2 – OL (or ILB)
Rd 3 – D-Line
Next 3 picks, best player available: RB/DB/OL/DL
Mario Henderson can get the job done…the bigger question is whether or not Robert Gallery will be able to help him do it. Gallery’s back makes it imperative the Raiders get new blood on the O-line.
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Oh geez…you’re like a little kindergarten child.
Haven’t you posted this same stupid crap, in that order, about 3000 times?
is thinking foreign to you?
It’s like the idiot brigade, watching the non-stop repeated “Duh, I tinks we should draft the following”..AND THEN YOU RE-POST IT AGAIN LATER TODAY..and then you’ll re-post it again TOMORROW.
It’s because you’re a moron.
I know..I know…the first time thinking is a daunting task…when it happens be sure and let us know.
March 14th, 2010 at 10:58 am
# HairyBush Says:
March 13th, 2010 at 8:39 am
Javon is laughing all the way to the bank. I can’t believe he was willing to give the $$ back before the season started, and Al didn’t see that as a red flag that his playing days were over!
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Cause Al is a freakin idiot who ruining this franchise and is just embarrassing himself and the team…..while the fans suffer through this crap.
March 14th, 2010 at 11:00 am
How many of you here have called Raider headquarters and asked to be transferred to Herrera or Trasks voice mail to vent and complain about the way things are being run and the way the franchise is going down the tubes??
How many of you?
March 14th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Yes, it’s the troll aka RickyLake. Of course, the subject was football, so Ricky jumped out with her oh-so-mature name calling.
Got some football to chat about Ricky? Or just the immature ramblings of a loner? I know, I know…the answer is obvious to all of us.
March 14th, 2010 at 11:09 am
HayesDaze37 Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 8:56 am
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
What city center are you in, VR?
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It is great day Hayes, I’m with you.
The wife and I stayed at Aria this weekend. Very impressive building and infrastructure, very pedestrian and disappointing everything else.
March 14th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Jerry…
Any word on if Fargas toed the company line, last night at the Commitment to Excellence dinner. In hopes that Al would resign him, in case no one else does..
Or, did he wish that the crazy old fart would go fornicate himself???
March 14th, 2010 at 11:11 am
# buckeyeraider Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 7:10 am
Good morning Ray,
What’s the youtube link you posted? My computer is rather antiquated. Doesn’t play videos very well. Takes forever to load, and usually just boots me off. Matter of fact, when my wife gets home, were supposed to go buy a new one. My 12 year old has been pestering me for awhile. Dad, can we get a new computer? Ours stinks.LOL.
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crucial dot com.
click on “Scan my computer”.
Will tell you exactly what you have, what your options are, and what it costs.
Good price on memory board upgrades, which is probably all you need. Install yourself, in minutes, and you might be good to go.
Should have at least 512 MB memory per slot, 1 GB is better.
March 14th, 2010 at 11:14 am
# HayesDaze37 Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Yes, it’s the troll aka RickyLake. Of course, the subject was football, so Ricky jumped out with her oh-so-mature name calling.
Got some football to chat about Ricky? Or just the immature ramblings of a loner? I know, I know…the answer is obvious to all of us.
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Oh..you mean should I jump in the “I think we should draft” whine? lol…
When anyone who has their head outside their ass knows it’s a 100% waste of time, knowing Al prides himself on making the most outlandish ridiculous picks of the draft?
I know, I know, you’re “bored”…so posting the same stupid crap “entertains” you.
I just pray I’m never that bored in my life…now…carry on, worm..as only you can.
March 14th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Hey DK007 — Given the fact that Al’s cutting his losses with some of his bad choices…doesn’t that show he’s at least figured out SOMETHING? After all, he could just have kept tham on the roster (and of course, be hammered for it).
WHO is the FA signing/savior that Al should’ve signed already? Which of the cuts this off-season have been bad cuts?
Seems to me like…the only way to correct mistakes is to start somewhere. Considering the dust hasn’t settled this off-season…methinks Al and the Raiders have done a fine job so far.
Al’s not done making good moves…even if his haters refuse to acknowledge them when he makes them. Will he make some “bad” moves this year? Most likely. Will be be trying to improve HIS team? Definitely.
So far in 2010, Al Davis the GM has done a fine job.
March 14th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Mista,
Still LMFAO. No!
March 14th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Who here, IN THEIR MIND, honestly believes that there is even the SLIGHTEST CHANCE Al will make a logical pick?
If so, you’re an idiot.
March 14th, 2010 at 11:19 am
Good on ya, VR — Pumping $$ into your local economy that way. What a concept. Something KK could learn from.
March 14th, 2010 at 11:23 am
# HayesDaze37 Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Hey DK007 — Given the fact that Al’s cutting his losses with some of his bad choices…doesn’t that show he’s at least figured out SOMETHING? After all, he could just have kept tham on the roster (and of course, be hammered for it).
WHO is the FA signing/savior that Al should’ve signed already? Which of the cuts this off-season have been bad cuts?
Seems to me like…the only way to correct mistakes is to start somewhere. Considering the dust hasn’t settled this off-season…methinks Al and the Raiders have done a fine job so far.
Al’s not done making good moves…even if his haters refuse to acknowledge them when he makes them. Will he make some “bad” moves this year? Most likely. Will be be trying to improve HIS team? Definitely.
So far in 2010, Al Davis the GM has done a fine job.
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LMFAO..you call this TALKING FOOTBALL?
Hell dude..pay attention.
You don’t decide to get rid of STARTERS and then say “Ok, now we’re better”..if the backups were BETTER, THEN THEY WOULD BE STARTING..
So, running the “we improved because we got rid of dead weight MAKES YOU AN IDIOT”.
Al as GM? Are you freaking serious?
Take your head out of your ass..Al already has the title of worst front office man in the country, for ANY TEAM, ON ANY LEAGUE. The man is a virus, that keeps multiplying.
Al has on his resume the WORST OFFSEASON FA SIGNING ever, with his 270 million thrown at 5 players. That alone will never be surpassed. The money thrown at Wilson, Hall, Kelly, Walker, and Kwame will never be surpassed as the dumbest head up ass signings in one setting.
Add to that Bey? THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS LAUGHING.
ADD TO THAT MITCHELL? WTF??? idiot head up ass draft pick.
Add to that Mcfumble?
Add to that the handling of JR?
Add to that Walker wanted to GIVE HIS BONUS BACK, AND BE RELEASED FROM HIS CONTRACT, AND AL TALKED HIM IN TO STAYING, just so he could BENCH HIM?
That ALONE shows Al has lost it.
Want to refute any of this? DO YOU DARE? hell no…because you’re an idiot..and all idiots do is stay in the shadows with little excuses why you’re all but done.
Now..get back to some idiot prediction on the draft, which will never come to fruition.
March 14th, 2010 at 11:26 am
# HayesDaze37 Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 11:14 am
So far in 2010, Al Davis the GM has done a fine job.
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Yep, again…LMFAO.
This is one of those instant classics that rank up there with some of Oakglenns, Priests and Unemployed Kelli’s stupid takes that keep getting shoved down their throat, on occasion.
I have a feeling we’ll be seeing this again,
March 14th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Al’s only issue in the draft has been his first-rounders.
Guys like Scott, Murphy, Miller and Branch, might be the most productive players to come out of their respective rounds in that year.
I don’t blame him for the picking of a QB, RB and WR, that’s what the best teams are doing. He just picked the wrong guys.
March 14th, 2010 at 11:30 am
RickyLake shows just how little she knows about football when she tries to discuss it. No wonder there’s so much hatred saved up in there.
And…using 5 guys recently cut/replaced to show that Al ISN’T learning his lessons, cutting losses and moving on from them, is a great way to lose one’s own argument.
Way to go RickyLake…proving once again that the less-than-average intellect only goes so far before breaking down and arguing with itself.
You go, RickyLake…chase that smelly tail, girl.
March 14th, 2010 at 11:35 am
MMitchell might just be a great DB, no matter how “raw” some people say he is. Tyvon Branch looks like the real deal.
No logical or objective viewer who saw those two guys play last year could dispute their improved play or potential. The Raiders Safety position should be in good hands for the next 4 years or so. Good GM-ing, that!
March 14th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Weak, Dazed…predictably pathetic..and weak.
EVERYONE KNOWS NOT ONE OF THEM DESERVED A 5TH OF WHAT THEY GOT, and you’re answer is “Oh, it’s ok to make stupid signings, as long as at some point you cut them”??
AGAIN, YOU’RE AN IDIOT..not to mention a spineless idiot.
So, according to YOU, signing Hall, to a 72 million contract, then CUTTING HIM AFTER 8 GAMES WAS A GOOD MOVE? You dumbass…
Well? Which was THE DUMBER MOVE?
8 MILLION PAID for 8 games played, or signing him PERIOD? lol..and to you THAT MADE SENSE?
Gabril Wilson’s 50 million contract was wise because after one year he was released BECAUSE HE DARED TO QUESTION AL’S RELEASING OF HALL? Even though Wilson led the team in tackles?
Javon Walker to a 55 million deal, with 16 million GUARANTEED..AND THEN AL SITS HIM?
Are you a moron full time, or is this a part time gig?
Signing Kwame Harris to a 6 million deal, WHEN HE LED THE LEAGUE IN PENALTIES, AND SACKS ALLOWED?
To YOU that’s a good signing? Oh..wait..that’s ok, because a YEAR LATER he was released?
HE SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN SIGNED, MORON.
You’re a moron.
Signing Kelly for 55 mil when the previous year, when he went on IR, the defense actually IMPROVED from giving up 5.3 ypc to 4.8 with him out?
Hey, I didn’t expect you to step up..when challenged.
You did exactly what I knew you would do..diversion say nothing white flag waving reply, hoping it masked the fact you’re a fool.
It didn’t.
Now..shut up, boy, before you hurt yourself.
March 14th, 2010 at 11:48 am
# HayesDaze37 Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Hey DK007 — Given the fact that Al’s cutting his losses with some of his bad choices…doesn’t that show he’s at least figured out SOMETHING? After all, he could just have kept tham on the roster (and of course, be hammered for it).
WHO is the FA signing/savior that Al should’ve signed already? Which of the cuts this off-season have been bad cuts?
Seems to me like…the only way to correct mistakes is to start somewhere. Considering the dust hasn’t settled this off-season…methinks Al and the Raiders have done a fine job so far.
Al’s not done making good moves…even if his haters refuse to acknowledge them when he makes them. Will he make some “bad” moves this year? Most likely. Will be be trying to improve HIS team? Definitely.
So far in 2010, Al Davis the GM has done a fine job.
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Hey Hayz,
Doing a fine job equates into WINS and NOT LOSSES.
I have seen far more losses than wins the 7 FREAKIN years! I have ZERO confidence in the dumb old man!
ZERO!
March 14th, 2010 at 11:50 am
HayesDaze37 Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 11:35 am
MMitchell might just be a great DB, no matter how “raw” some people say he is.
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Oh geez…Mitchell? lol..his “potential”?? HE DIDN’T DO SQUAT, FOOL.
Mitchell wasn’t even INVITED TO THE COMBINE..dumbass.
Mitchell’s own school didn’t even list him when they presented players…Mitchell didn’t even show up on most scouts list of available players…because HE’S A NOBODY.
Leave it to you to try and justify Al’s idiot decisions.
“potential”? That’s another word for “LOSER”.
Everyone has “potential”, dumbass..just means they haven’t done squat.
Oh..hey..this will make you feel better..JR? He has “potential”..and Bey? Yep, “potential”..and yep..=LOSER.
March 14th, 2010 at 11:53 am
# vegas raider Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 11:27 am
I don’t blame him for the picking of a QB, RB and WR, that’s what the best teams are doing. He just picked the wrong guys.
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Isn’t that the point?
Picking McFumble when he did made no sense..wasn’t even listed as a “draft need”.
Bey? When pretty much everyone else was head and shoulders above him?
Mitchell? Where everyone on the planet said “WTF???”
March 14th, 2010 at 11:54 am
RickyLake — You’re still going around in circles? What a shock. When did I say any of those signings were good? In fact…I regularly express doubts about players like Hall, Walker, et al.
But, like the muckraker you are, you ignore facts because you’d have nothing to stand on otherwise. Don’t try to put words in my mouth, RickyLake — your vocabulary isn’t big enough. If you knew half as much about what others think, you’d be at least 75% smarter than you are.
Keep chasing that smelly tail, Ricky girl.
March 14th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
You just got slapped down, and that’s your reply?
Predictable…
And yeah, moron, you stated EXACTLY:
# HayesDaze37 Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 11:14 am
So far in 2010, Al Davis the GM has done a fine job.
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That idiot reply was torched..You? You waved that white flag.
YOU:
And…using 5 guys recently cut/replaced to show that Al ISN’T learning his lessons, cutting losses and moving on from them, is a great way to lose one’s own argument.”
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Al had to SELL SOME OF THE TEAM to pay off the above idiot signings, and you state he did a good job because AFTER HE THREW ALL THAT MONEY AT THEM, HE THEN CUT THEM???
Yeah, dumbass…that’s what you just said.
Walker got 16 million guaranteed..AND AL SAT HIM FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN PAYBACK FOR SOME PERCEIVED SLIGHT?
And to you, that’s ok? lol….
You back Al’s decision to SIGN KWAME HARRIS, the player the Niners benched because he was so bad, because after a year…HE WAS RELEASED?
WTF???
You’re “slow”..aren’t you?
Think about it..I have to explain the simplest crap?
the obvious?
And you still make excuses for the derelict?
Wave that white flag, boy.
anytime you want a lesson on the Raiders, just stick your scrawny neck out, and I’ll gladly school ya..
March 14th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
I think MM when used right, can be pretty effective. I agree that he is one of our if not THE best blitzer on our team. I realize that is not saying much when considering the others, but he was pretty effective at it.
I always compare the potential of MM to Carnell Lake from the Steelers in the 90’s. Lake lost a step as a DB, so he was pretty much a blitzing nickle guy and had like 10 sacks one year and got some MVP votes.
Obviously, MM has a long way to go to get to that point, but even a poor man’s version of that would be very, very useful.
March 14th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
RickyLake is wearing a scent that smells suspiciously like certain other trolls. It gets stuck in that smelly tail he/she/they chase continuously.
March 14th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Shaun Hill traded for a 7th round pick.
7th rounder??? LMAO, did they throw in a bag of oranges as well?
March 14th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
# HayesDaze37 Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 11:54 am
But, like the muckraker you are, you ignore facts because you’d have nothing to stand on otherwise.
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Just because I’m enjoying watching you squirm…I’ll give you a chance to back your words.
“ignore facts”???
What facts might those be?
Well?? Don’t squirm out…simple question for a simple mind..what FACTS THAT YOU POSTED, THAT MADE SENSE, that were ignored?
March 14th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
# HayesDaze37 Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
RickyLake is wearing a scent that smells suspiciously like certain other trolls. It gets stuck in that smelly tail he/she/they chase continuously.
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Ahh…the “I have nothing in reply. I getting my ass handed to me on a platter, so I hope this silly retort washes, and cover the fact I have nothing”?
how’s that working for ya?
March 14th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Anybody else want to spar with the little RickyLake troll? It bores me.
Long live Al Davis…the managing owner AND the imperfect GM that he is.
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
March 14th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
When used right is the key for all those guys ….
IMO, Hue Jackson and his scheme are the key to the offense. If it is more vanilla stuff we’ve seen for the past few years, then I just don’t think we have the Oline to pull it off.
But if we can get some creativity to get guys in space or matched up to beat LBs and S, then I think we will see these young guys differently. Misdirection, shorter routes, and a lot of running the ball.
March 14th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
“it bores me” means you just got beyotch slapped, and you know it.
Put a fork in ya, Dazed..you’re done.
As I guaranteed…
Next time stick to your idiot draft predictions…over and over and over.
Safer for you.
BTW…NO ONE expected your spineless ass to step up when challenged with actual facts..
you may go now.
March 14th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Just because it makes me laugh
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# HayesDaze37 Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 11:14 am
So far in 2010, Al Davis the GM has done a fine job.
March 14th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
So far in 2010, Al Davis the GM has done a fine job.
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i agree with that.
March 14th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Jhill,
Hue will drum up a little more creativity. I mean how couldn’t he?
The key to the offense will be Darren. You know I am a huge critic, but I liked Jerry’s Ronnie Harmon analogy.
That guy has a headache every 3rd and 6. He could take the occasional draw, went out into short patterns and caught every ball thrown his way. You can line him up in different formations and create mismatches, not only for himself but for others as teams D had to adjust when he went in motion and such.
Darren could be used in a similar-type role and be effective. As effective, I doubt it, but we need guys to move the chains on 3rd down. That was our achillies heel, IMO.
March 14th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
As long as Stan Routt getting that tender means he is starting on the outside, I pretty much agree with every move we made this offseason.
March 14th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Agree with using DMAC as a “weapon” instead of a traditional RB.
March 14th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Before I go…I defy RickyLake to give me ONE move, one player, one decisive trade that Al should’ve made this year (besides the catatonic “replace himself”) that would’ve been better than the moves he’s made SO FAR.
RickyLake has NO answer…just whining and complaining about a team she must be addicted to, or she wouldn’t be in here whining about it every day. Oh wait…it’s NOT about the Raiders or Al Davis at all…it’s all about getting attention in here.
Dealing with the truth takes facing the truth, RickyLake — we all know you don’t really care either way about the team or its owner…you just need the attention in here to pump-up your miserable self-worth, as little as it is.
Try as you might, you miserable smelly critter… Can’t spoil MY enthusiasm for the great Raiders legacy, or their great future.
Chase that tail, Ricky girl, chase that smelly tail.
It is ALWAYS a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it!?
March 14th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
As long as Stan Routt getting that tender means he is starting on the outside, I pretty much agree with every move we made this offseason.
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Sorry, not with you on this one.
First off, the salary given was way out of whack. It is peanuts compared to the disasters of Javon, Meangelo and TK, but still, overpaying is overpaying.
Second, I just don’t see it with him. Maybe he turns it around big-time this year, and proves me wrong. I hope so. But his football instincts are terrible at times. I’ve watched replays of when he gets flagged, and he will have GREAT coverage on a guy, than just grab the WR by his shoulderpads for no reason. BEEEEP!!! Illegal contact #26, 5 yards, automatic first-down.
I’m afraid that will replace the weekly Cornell Green false start we all despised.
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Leave again..and stop in briefly now..and YOU’RE STILL ON HERE.
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wack job posts dozens of trolls during the course of the day and then calls others out for being here all day. Is this the epitome of hypocrite or is he just a delusional nut case? I think it is both actually.
March 14th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Al Davis the GM is doing a good job so far. Of course, a final grade can’t be assigned until we see what happens after the draft and then of course during the season.
I agree 100,000% with the decisions to cut Fargas, Warren, Walker, Green….those were moves that were 1 to 2 years overdue.
Now, as I have said repeatedly, let’s see if Fargas or Warren land new positions in the NFL.
The Bills signing Green defies logic to me. Regardless, Green is a backup tackle.
Next moves that Davis needs to do is draft a run-clogging (read not 3-tech pass rush) DEFENSIVE TACKLE. I would like to see Dan Williams.
Need a MLB. Either upgrade Morrison or keep him. Don’t allow the position to be degraded. Still need a veteran at the position.
RT, RG, C needs upgrades.
Might not be able to upgrade everything this year. But definitely need to address the big DT position.
March 14th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Green, gone. Fargas, gone. Alston, gone. Morrison, on the auction block. The team is looking to upgrade at some VERY important positions. How is Davis NOT doing a good job?
March 14th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Seymour,
Davis is doing a good job correcting his many past mistakes.
He still has to actually IMPROVE the team. Addition by subtraction just allows you the OPPORTUNITY to get better.
Still have to fill those positions with BETTER players.
And the Raiders need to draft two players that can contribute THIS YEAR!
No projects
March 14th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
vegas raider Says:
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As long as Stan Routt getting that tender means he is starting on the outside, I pretty much agree with every move we made this offseason.
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Sorry, not with you on this one.
First off, the salary given was way out of whack. It is peanuts compared to the disasters of Javon, Meangelo and TK, but still, overpaying is overpaying.
Second, I just don’t see it with him. Maybe he turns it around big-time this year, and proves me wrong. I hope so.
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Believe me, I wanted to go down to the Alameda HQ and pack Routts bags myself. But looking at this draft, where the passing game is becoming more and more and more important (See 2009 Final Four with Manning, Farve, Brees, Sanchez) this years Corner Back crop is weak at best. Hence the resigning of (shuddder) Routt.
March 14th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
All the momentum of Al this offseason might go up in flames if he takes Dez Bryant or Bruce Campbell at #8.
Really, I just can’t see him taking anyone else. I would love Dan Williams, but that probably ain’t happening. Same with McClain and trading down.
I honestly just hope Cable gets in Al’s ear and pitches him on the fellow Idaho Vandal and takes Iupati. At least I know he will contribute right away and fill a need. T Williams would be great, but a good chance he won’t be there and we didn’t even send a scout to Norman for his pro-day.
Picking #8 really worries me. Everything else in the draft I have confidence Al will do OK. He has been doing so the last few years.
It’s the first-rounders that are killing us.
March 14th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
yall trippin off dmc way 2 hard. how the hell do u know if he cant carry the load when we never give it to him. when he is healthy we never just let him run wild. how can u make an excuse for these damn qb’s but not the rb’s? they need the line as much as the qb’s do and none of yall was sayin this sh!t when he went off before both turf toes. give him the ball enuff to let him prove he cant do it.
March 14th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
I think Mario Henderson comes back as LT. He struggled towards the end of the year…but hey, this was his 1st season as a starter. Young players are going to have ups and downs…he wasn’t the reason this team finished 5-11.
I would hope we would wait until later in the draft to get a RT, RG or C.
Receivers are no longer needed…have to develop what’s here.
I think the pick has to be Dan Williams, pending any pro-days, interviews etc…its clear that the D-Line needs to become a playmaking position on this defense.
Going into next year with TK and Bryant alone won’t get it done
March 14th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
DMAC doesn’t have to…nor should he carry the entire load.
With Bush and DMAC, there are enough carries for both. They are different running backs and should provide an excellent 1-2 punch.
Some weeks it might be Bush grinding the opponent down/….other weeks it could be DMAC slashing them.
Now that Fargas won’t eat up carries, these two will get enough touches to develop a rhythm
March 14th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
SnB,
I think there is a greater chance of taking a DE, and moving Dick into the middle than there is of taking a DT at #8.
I want Dan Williams as well, but a trade up for Suh might also be more likely. If Kirk signs an offer sheet, we will have three 3rd rounders. Mix that with Al loving to trade up, and you know something will happen.
March 14th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
I’m glad Fargas is gone, and I thank him for his services.
But we can’t gloss over the fact that the offense had some of it’s best moments with him on the field.
We scored 20 points, sadly, only 4 times. Opening night and in Denver, where we used Bush and Darren.
The other two were the Steelers and Bengals when Fargas got the majority of the carries. We would have scored more points in the Bengals game if Bush didn’t fumble at midfield on one of his 4 carries that day.
Fargas also grinded out the Eagles victory as well. Bush and Darren should get the shot now, but they were outplayed at times by a guy who can’t find even a backup job right now.
Not a good sign.
March 14th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Trade our 1st and 2012’s 1st. With our past history that second first could easily be worth a top 5 pick. Move up to the #2 pick assuming the #1 pick is NOT Suh.
That would mean that We gave away 2 1st’s for Seymore & Suh. Both players could easily be here for the next 5-6 years barring injury. That’s a good trade in anybody’s book.
March 14th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
If the Lions are actively trying to trade down, as the rumors say, than I don’t thin we would need to give up another #1.
Give them #8, a 3rd and 5th this year, and a second next year. I think that might be enough to get them to pull the trigger.
March 14th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Vegas
I understand what you arre saying but we need linemen this year and this draft is full of them. By giving up 2 extra bodies this year and not getting to draft until the 3rd round next year (by giving next year’s 2nd away), we’ll never get our O-liune problem resolved. I’d rather take one future hit (i.e 2012’s #1 pick) and hope that these moves make it unnecessary to really worry about the single #1 hit in 2012. Besides, by the second round most of the sub 4.4 players are gone and we are less apt to get blindsided by that year’s best track star pick by AD.
March 14th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Vegas Raider,
The Fargas, Bush, DMAC debate is mute now. Raiders and Hue Jackson rightly made the decision.
My biggest argument against the Raider roster is that it is full of players that are marginal NFL players and certainly not starters.
Gerard Warren, Justin Fargas, Terdell Sands, Stuart Schweigart, Kwame Harris, Ronald Curry, Jerry Porter….and others…guys that we relied on as starters that could barely hand on in the league..let alone start.
The Raiders, and Tom Cable in particular, over-rate talent. The roster selections on this team has contributed to the situation we are in now.
Bush and DMAC are fine as RBs. RBs need carries to produce. Check out Bush’s stats when he gets 10+ carries…which was rare.
DMAC, a home run hitter, needs more cuts at the plate to hit those homeruns.
Fargas was a singles hitter and guy to hit a sac-fly…but not a guy to throw the game on his back to win.
Let’s hope decisions are rendered for Tommy Kelly (overpaid), Michael Huff (overpaid), Cooper Carlisle, Samson Satele.
March 14th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Vegas Raider,
Trading up is not an option. Suh and McCoy are 3-techs, a need, but if TK is staying, then you aren’t trading up.
Williams is the gap stuffer. Different skillset in my opinion. Don’t need to move up to get him.
Seymour should stay at DE. He anchors the edge, a problem that was so bad that Davis had to trade for SEymour at the 11th hour.
Not sure I want to see a 1st round DE in Oakland. Sounds like another opportunity to get wowed by 40x
March 14th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Vegas Raider,
The Fargas, Bush, DMAC debate is mute now. Raiders and Hue Jackson rightly made the decision.
My biggest argument against the Raider roster is that it is full of players that are marginal NFL players and certainly not starters.
Gerard Warren, Justin Fargas, Terdell Sands, Stuart Schweigart, Kwame Harris, Ronald Curry, Jerry Porter….and others…guys that we relied on as starters that could barely hand on in the league..let alone start.
The Raiders, and Tom Cable in particular, over-rate talent.
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Every single one of the guys you mentioned pre dated Cable with the exception of Kwame Harris who actually came here on Kiffins watch. And Cable was the one who got rid of him.
March 14th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
I would love to see Dan Williams on our roster but not for the No8 pick. Not enough position value – better to take an OT and use the 2nd round pick on a DT (Atkins, Cody, Thomas).
If we could trade down five/six/seven slots and get an extra low 2nd or high 3rd, then Williams becomes the right pick.
March 14th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Let’s hope decisions are rendered for Tommy Kelly (overpaid), Michael Huff (overpaid), Cooper Carlisle, Samson Satele.
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Whether Kekky is overpaid or not ius not really all that important unless it’s from YOUR checkbook. We need beef in the middle and right now, aside from Seymore & Bryant we have no one else. Kelly just needs to play more to his ability and he’ll be fine especially if we can put Suh in there next to him. As far as Huff goes, again the same comment about being overpaid as before. Besides, I thought he was really starti g to turn the corner this last year and playing to his ability. Carlisle & Satele are another story. Carlisle is out of gas. Satele is back-up quality at best. Both need to be relegated to the back-up position or the street. We need, this year, a new ORT, ORG, C & MLB. Whether they come from FA or the draft, I don’t care. We just need to address the lines and MLB and stay away from WR, RB & other so called skill positions. REBUILD THE LINES and good things will happen.
March 14th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Matt Shaughnessy is a classic Tom Cable guy. Over achieving, high motor, loves the game type of guy with not the greatest athletic skill set. The high motor type of guys we have haven’t seen here since Howie.
March 14th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Taking Bulaga or Anthony Davis @ #8 and then grabbing one of the solid Dlinemen in the 2nd (Alualu, Cam Thomas or preferably Lamarr Houston) would be a nice way to begin the draft. Of course if Rolando McClain is sitting there at 8….
March 14th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Browns trade Wimbley to Raiders Per PFT.
March 14th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Cleveland Browns president Mike Holmgren is having a busy day trading away former first-round draft picks.
In addition to trading 2007 first-round pick Brady Quinn to the Denver Broncos, Holmgren also traded 2006 first-round pick Kamerion Wimbley to the Oakland Raiders.
Adam Caplan of Scout.com first reported the trade.
The Browns selected Wimbley, an outside linebacker, out of Florida State with the 13th overall pick in 2006. He burst onto the scene as a rookie with 11 sacks and has started every game but two in his four years in Cleveland, but he hasn’t been quite lived up to the promise he showed as a rookie.
There’s no word yet on what the Raiders sent to the Browns in exchange for Wimbley