Report: Raiders acquire Wimbley
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, March 14th, 2010 at 1:44 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Adam Caplan of Scout.com is reporting the Raiders have traded for linebacker Kamerion Wimbley for an undisclosed draft pick.
No confirmations yet from the Raiders or Browns, but multiple outlets are now reporting this story.
Wimbley is a former first-round draft pick from Florida State by the Cleveland Browns.
A four-year vetrean, Wimbley is coming off a 6.5 sack season and has 26.5 sacks for his career in four years as an outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense.
At 6-3, 255, Wimbley could be used either as an end or outside linebacker. His current skill set sounds as if he is suited to a role similar to the one second-year man Trevor Scott played for the Raiders last season. Scott was a defensive end who was shifted to outside linebacker and also played as a nickel rusher.
Wimbley is under contract through 2011. HIs contract tops out at $1,065,000 million this season and he earns $635,000 (although NFLPA listings don’t indicate if there is a void in his deal).
After getting 11 sacks as a rookie, Wimbley has had 5, 4 and 6.5, never completely fulfilling his promise. He has started all 62 games he’s played in with Cleveland after the Browns made him the 13th overall pick in the 2006 draft. The Raiders selected Thomas Howard 25 picks later in the second round at No. 38 overall.
No official word on what draft pick the Raiders surrendered, but they could be thinking they’ll be getting an extra third-round pick should Kirk Morrison get an offer sheet.
The optimist is excited because the Raiders got a a talented player with some pass rush skill to add to their defense. The pessimist thinks the Raiders just got a player who wasn’t good enough to play for Rob Ryan.
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March 14th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
No problem with this pick. Add more depth/starter to the linebacking corp.
Hope they don’t make him MLB though
March 14th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Brady Quinn coming to Denver. JaDavis vs Brady Quinn?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/14/broncos-browns-announce-brady-quinn-trade/
March 14th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Looks like the lower 3rd round pick and some speculation Wimbley might play at DE – where he played at Florida State.
Smartish pick. And bye, bye Morrison – we need that 3rd rounder back.
And Brady Quinn is off to Denver.
March 14th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Wimbley is not a MLB.
There is no guarantee someone is going to take Morrison either.
March 14th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Also means we won’t be after Koa Misi in the draft. He’s been climbing the Board and is looking like a low 2nd – which we can’t afford.
Is anyone else wondering if the release of Warren and the signing of Wimbley means the Raiders are thinking of playing 3:4?
March 14th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Scottish Raider,
If the Raiders move to a 3-4…they would have to get a NT.
IF the Raiders stay with a 4-3…they still need a NT to play next to Kelly.
I think the best pick, if the Raiders go defense, has to be Dan Williams at #8.
Unfortunately, Bruce Campbell and Taylor Mays’ 40 times cast a large looming over-reaching shadow over the entire Raider Nation…
March 14th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
3 (Kelly/Richardson, Bryant, Seymour) 4 (Howard/Scott, Brown, Morrison, Wimbley/Shaughnessy).
March 14th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
oh shizzle,..dat mighty quinn in denva,..bad news for da raiduhs…hes gud. oh snap on dat hatuhs.
March 14th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
SnB, agree that Dan Williams would be a serious upgrade on Bryant. Cody might also be available in the 2nd.
March 14th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Scottish Raider,
Bryant cant play NT in a 3-4 at 290lbs.
March 14th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Trouble with Quinn is that his accuracy isn’t good enough. Makes him a somewhat strange pick for Denver – as McDiapers offense is based around precision. If Quinn was a bargain, then surely Weis would have lobbied for him in KC?
March 14th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
LaDainian Tomlinson’s signed for the Jets. Should help Rex recover from his tummy tuck.
March 14th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
The pick we gave up is probably the overall number 8 in this draft.
March 14th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Wimbley actually played pretty well for the Browns. They must be going back into a 4/3 with Holmgren over there.
March 14th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
I wont be surprised at all if he’s moved to MLB being that he’s bigger than Morrison. I still think we should keep Morrison, but move him back to OLB. Now that Brady Quinn is a Bronco, I guess the green light to officially hate him is on. Too bad,,I kinda like Quinn. Maybe JaMarcus will have LSU flashbacks when he sees Quinn, and will start playing like he did back at LSU. With Wimbley here, we can now take McClain off the wish list.
March 14th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
not a horrible move if its a 3rd, just glad to see we finally made a move. i expect a heave defensive draft, we’ve gotten rid of 2 starting lineman and basically told kirk to kick rocks. maybe it’s just wishful thinking on my part.
March 14th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
dude wimbley is absolutely in no way close to a mlb, he’s a 3/4 olb, more likely an end.
March 14th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
it looks like captain delusional is on his way out.
March 14th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
this looks like a move that puts Seymour more on the inside, or possibly puts an edge rusher to Seymour’s side. Interesting.
March 14th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
22,,I agree but they did move Kirk inside when it was obvious that he’s clearly suited for OLB. The Raiders moving defensive players away from their original position seems to be an ongoing thing. Kirk Morrison, Tyler Brayton, Warren Sapp, Trevor Scott, Grant Irons, so on & so on. The real question is are we staying at 4-3 or is this a sign of us moving to a 3-4.
March 14th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Lets pretend that I didnt just mention Grant Irons.
March 14th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
very true, very true
March 14th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
I think Wimbley is a good player, he has only missed 2 games in 4 seasons and is still 26.
I dont think he will be moved to MLB, since he is a pass rusher, I think he will be DE for us like he was in College. Probably we are moving Seymour inside with Kelly, with Shaughnessy and Wimbley outside.
At LB, I think Morrison is done. Raiders scouts are interviewing MLBs at the Combine and Senior Bowl (Donald Butler, Phillip Dillard, Sean Witherspoon,…)
March 14th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Good call. The Raiders have no problem moving defensive players around. So it could very well be possible that Wembley is the MLB.
He’s athletic…this is the same team that toyed with developing a tight end from Boise State for MLB
Still think the Raiders would be better off looking at Antonio Pierce
March 14th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
wut da hells mang…we cud have had da mighty quinn,..you can oh snap dat
March 14th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
I hope that Seymour IS NOT moved inside, unless they get a DE that can play the run consistently. Remember last year’s training camp.
Also, Seymour really should steal TK’s job. Cut TK and save the cap for future years and go draft Williams.
Williams and Seymour together would be a good move. Plus Williams has Seymour to lean on.
Build the doggone D-LINe
March 14th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Im tellin you… I have a huge hunch the raiders will try taylor mays at mlb P willie style.
March 14th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
said it last week. I’ll say it again this week. Don’t be surprised if the Raiders move more to a 3-4.
March 14th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Im just glad the Raiders didnt sign the loud mouth overrated Joey Porter. Brady Quinn being traded for a full back has to be somewhat of a slap in the face, maybe even a punch to the stomach. I can see Wimbley at DE as well. Things are finally getting interesting, but we know the real show starts at draft day.
March 14th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Scouting Report on Kamerion Wimbley:
Comment: After exploding onto the scene as a rookie, Wimbley has failed to improve and his ability to get after the quarterback is diminishing. Still, there is a lot to work with here and his upside still remains quite high. Wimbley is a bit of a one-trick pony as a pass-rusher, as he relies on his speed off the edge too much and doesn’t demonstrate effective counter moves.
Doesn’t seem like this guy is going to help out against the run too much, and it definately looks like we are going to a 3-4, otherwise why would we need 2 pass rushing outside linebackers?
March 14th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
The Raiders have no NT. The only way they could move to 3-4 is if they draft Williams or Cody.
They need one of those two anyway because right now they have no run clogger on the roster
March 14th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
I think we may trade up for Suh!
March 14th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Anyone know whats up with Antonio Pierce or Keith Bullock?
I, myself, have jumped off the Kirk-Train. Change is a must at MLB.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
#2 overall = 2600 pts
#3 overall = 2200 pts
#8 overall = 1400 pts
March 14th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Al, will draft Taylor Mays, and move him to NT…..
March 14th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
i think this is the first of a few moves we will make over the next few weeks. they may have gotten word that a team is close to signing kirk and therefore are willing to give up a pick.hopefully its not a 2nd or even the the first 3rdr. ive been sayin for a while t move sey inside and get a faster pass rusher. really i say keep wimberley outside move sey inside and still get a quicker de like morgan, griffen or my favorite b graham. graham plays the run well and can get sacks. if there was a year to trade down this is it but it wont happen. we could also get d.williams or cody inside next to seymour.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Raider O I hope we trade up for suh. I’d love that.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
I don’t think we want K Wimbley to play LB when we still have TH, T Scott, R Brown, and Kirk. I think we traded for him to play DE IMHO. I think He will replace Ellis on the DL.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
TCPH,
Suh is a Beast. He destroyed Texas’ OL, and Texas does have athletes.
RDE: Wimbley
DT: Suh
DT: Seymour
LDE: Matt S
WLB: T Scott
MLB: Spikes
SLB: Kirk/ TH
CB: Nnamdi
CB: CJ/ Rookie
FS: Huff/ Branch
SS: Branch/ MM
That’s a damn good Defense IMO.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
There’s not going to be a switch to 3-4.
Seymour moves inside to replace Warren and Wimbley takes Ellis’ spot.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
We better not have used a third after Anquan was traded for a fourth and Quinn acquired for a FB and a sixth. Why not get boldin for a fourth instead of wimbley for a third
March 14th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
We gave up a 3rd pick for him!!!! worth it??? i dont think so
March 14th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Our Front 4 will be able to rush the passer and stop the run, and Our LBs & DBs will be able to make more plays.
Trade up for Suh!
March 14th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
I wonder what the pick will be if true? I would hope a 4th or less, but it could be a 3rd. He is cheap for the year at only a million.
Good get some competition going out there.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Wimbley? This reminds me of the day we signed Rich Gannon!
March 14th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Raider O, if that happens, I will be happy MOFO come april’s draft, but no way in hell Al Senile Davis does it because its the right thing to do!!!
March 14th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Why do people care how much we pay these fools??? Its not your money, we just need players damn it!11
March 14th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Thank god it wasn’t a 2nd!
Not bad if he gets 8+ sacks this season. He has a salary of 1+ mil. Not bad for a 3rd. IMO
March 14th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Chris Mortensen of ESPN posted on Twitter that the Raiders were among “lots of teams” that wanted Wimbley, and that the Raiders got him because their third-round pick was higher than other teams’ offerings.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
# SD_Raider_619 Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Why do people care how much we pay these fools??? Its not your money, we just need players damn it!11
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Been saying that for months now – 100% correct!
March 14th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
This defense is still soft up the middle. If Al addresses run defense, it’s a good sign. If he chases another db or de in the first three rounds, he’s still off his rocker.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
If Gradkowski starts, what’s our backup plan for when he gets hurt by week 3?
March 14th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
You are right bro. I think he will draft Mays or Campbell.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/kamerion-wimbley-browns.jpg
March 14th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
He may even draft J Best! Who knows what he will do? All I know is: it will be a great player and you will get over it. lol
March 14th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Wouldn’t be surprised if we tried to convert him to 4-3 MLB.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
The point of bringing up the money is because it helps his trade value.
If he was making 4 million dollars next year, nobody would want him. A bunch of teams wanted him because he is cheap.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
To run the type of defense Al Davis likes to run, you need a real football player at every position. Impossible to do now, anyway. But even if it weren’t, Al Davis has no clue how to fill the 9 slots outside of shutdown corners. Just a bunch of guys who can run fast.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
Nothing new Vegas raider we pay alot for mediocre players and keep them for 3 years and cut them for nothing anyways. thank you Al Senile A$$ Davis
March 14th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
If Gradkowski starts, what’s our backup plan for when he gets hurt by week 3?
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C’mon Mr you know its going to be jadumbest russel… whoelse? charlie frye?
March 14th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
So far looks like…
—Howard—-Morrison—Wimbley—
Scott–Kelly–Seymour–Shaughnessy
March 14th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
If we were more versatile with our safeties and linebackers, switching up man/zone, etc, our defense would be twice as good, in every category. I don’t think Al Davis really wants to win. Think he just wants to see his defense work.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
GG, we need a beast next to Seymour
March 14th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Trade up & Draft Suh!!
Move Seymour inside!
Cut TK or give him a pay-cut!
Draft Spikes in the 2nd!
Draft OL with 3rd (if Ford wasn’t available) 4th, and 5th!
Draft a FB in the 7th!
Sign a FA RB after the draft!
Legalize it!
March 14th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
So, Cable’s pimp hand, if Russell’s going to wind up playing no matter what, shouldn’t we have a better plan for offense than just throwing “Grads” in there? Like, I dunno, revamping the entire useless system?
March 14th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
When I look at Russell’s college highlights, honestly, I think his problems are more to do with our system than they are his quarterbacking.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Ok, guys do your research b4 you say he is going to be a DE. In college he played DE, true, but here is what scouts said about him.
Defensive end is where Wimbley has played, but he is not big enough to play there on a consistent basis in the NFL. He lacks the bulk and strength to match up with NFL lineman off the snap. His best fit is as a 3-4 OLB, but if he makes that move, he’s moving to a completely different position. He also relies on his physical talent too much to make plays. Wimbley will need time to fully develop at the next level.
Now, he weights 240 lbs in college, right now he weights 255 which is the same weight Scott weights. I think the Raiders will play him SLB and Scott WLB. No way he plays DE unless he weights 265 by training camp. Since he is been in the league, he played a OLB, for him to go back to his college ways would confuse the kid. Raiders will stick him as SLB, he has the speed needed.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
MR, the Raiders have three QBs, all capable of starting. What more do you want?
March 14th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Or, lack thereof (a system).
March 14th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
What more do I want, Albert? You’re right. We’re fine right now. Just coming off of a playoff season. I mean, Russell didn’t wind up stinking last year, and his backups didn’t wind up getting carried off the field on stretchers. I guess I don’t want anything, Albert. Everything is fine. We’re already one of the best teams in the league!
March 14th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Damn right! We are on of the best teams in the league!
March 14th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
After reading Raider4eve post, we gave the Browns a 3rd pick when we picked up Scott in the 6th Round. Does this makin f-in sense?? Leave it to Al davis!!
March 14th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Oh, without a doubt, Albert. I think we’re better than the Saints! Yaah!
March 14th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
One of his problems with the Browns was that he can’t cover. No way we play him at SLB over TH & Kirk. He will replace Ellis is a pass rusher. Ellis was only 265, Burgess was 260, and he is shorter than T Scott.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
What’s the latest word on OO?
March 14th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
MR, the Saints have won only one Super Bowl. We have won three.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
As a pass…*
March 14th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
# SD_Raider_619 Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
GG, we need a beast next to Seymour
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For sure, Kelly isnt a good NT/NG. But based on what we have in the roster today, that’s what it seems to look like, so far. We have to acquire a better DT, a run-stuffing MLB, and about 5 OL
March 14th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
No doubt, Albert. We’re right up there with the Saints. We match up with them at every position. Yaah.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
# Raider O Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
One of his problems with the Browns was that he can’t cover. No way we play him at SLB over TH & Kirk. He will replace Ellis is a pass rusher. Ellis was only 265, Burgess was 260, and he is shorter than T Scott.
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True this. Well, RE then for Wimbley and Scott at SLB then. It appears at this point. ?
March 14th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Quit being a hater MR. We all know your a 49ers fan.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
I was beginning to wonder what would take longer…..a raider acquisition or an update on this site. Am I the only one who wonders if they try to break world records for stories left on a web page with no updates?
March 14th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
To be honest, I don’t know if this is a good trade. Why? For mainly this reason “Adam Caplan of Scout.com, who first broke the news of the Wimbley trade, reports that Wimbley will make $1.065 million in base salary for 2010. Caplan also reports that the final season of Wimbley’s six-year rookie contract will void, but there’s an up to $7.765 million buyback for 2011 based on statistical achievement from previous seasons”.
Looking at the whole picture, we getting a guy if he turns up to have huge year (most players do that in contract year), he would cost us over 7 mill and more if we franchise tag him. If we drafted a linebacker in the third round, he would have been cheaper in the long run as we would have him for at least another four years. Some might argue that we are trading our third round for a sure product, question is, is he a sure product? The guy has been regressing since his breakout rookie year, hmm who cares AL will have the money to pay him if he turns out to be a good player, hope he is not like Erik Dampier kind of player only good in contract years.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Found this…
http://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks
I think Wimbley could play either RDE or SLB in the Raiders 4-3… He improved in coverage every year in CLE… Was a 4-3 DE out of FSU
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So maybe SLB then?
March 14th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
MR,
Based on the stupidity of his posts wouldnt you have to agree that this guy Bigelow Paine is a Troll. He is simply trying to stir the pot and doesnt really believe anything hes writing. Dont feed the Troll MR.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Just sounds like a depth acquisition. Scott and Wimbley providing back-up to each other, rotating in and out of nickel and 4-3 downs.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
I thought MR was a troll RaiderRon.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
depth??? for a 3rd pick?? I dont know if Al davis realize we need a F-in thumper MLB
March 14th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Jerry…..can we at least change the pics from time to time? I am tired of looking at t.o.!
March 14th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Let’s break it down, Albert, for the non believers.
Head coach: Tom Cable vs. Sean Payton. Cable, easily!
Quarterback: JaMarcus Russell/Bruce Gradkoski/Something Frye? vs. Drew Brees. Our three headed monster wins easily!
Offensive line: Easily, us.
Running Back: Reggie Bush vs. D. McFadden. McFadden. Easily.
Wide recievers: Henderson and Colston vs. Heyward Bay and Shillens. Heyward Bay and Shillens! By far!
Tight end: Shockey vs. Miller…ok…we have to be fair here..Shockey wins this one, alright?
We’re superior in almost every category.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Jerry is going to change the Morrison picture pretty soon and its sucks ball cause i have a morrison jersey. jajajaja
March 14th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
What if I was a 49er fan? Would I be wrong?
March 14th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Wimbley and Scott rotating between SLB and RE on 4-3 and nickel packages. (ie, RE on nickel, SLB on 4-3, downs).
March 14th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
So what if I’m a troll, Albert? It’s up to the website moderators. Your a commenter, nothing more. Let them do their job.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
MR, the Saints have always been losers. Just because the NFL fixed it last year so we could all have a feel good story doesn’t mean they are any good. The Raiders and Al Davis are legends! The Saints are still the Aints.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
# SD_Raider_619 Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
depth??? for a 3rd pick?? I dont know if Al davis realize we need a F-in thumper MLB
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For sure, a great need is the DT-MLB combination that would see our run-D go from the 30’s and high 20’s in the league to the top 10.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
When I look at Russell’s college highlights, honestly, I think his problems are more to do with our system than they are his quarterbacking
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Every player looks good in collge but that doesn’t always translate to the nfl. And I think jamarcus would have issues no matter what team he went to simply because he doesn’t care…Like he says “he’s eatin”(meaning hes’s getting paid regardless) so he could careless bout football, his teamates or the fans. He’s rich and made it out the ghetto so his job is done/ or life is complete thats how he feels. Thats what happens when you have a money= happiness mindset.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
GG
Lets talk with some logic, you have a guy who played DE in college, but in the past 4 yrs he played OLB which requires running, covering and blitzing. Now you trade for this kid and change his position to DE? Its like a guy who played WR in high school and a RB in college only to be drafted to play WR again. Doesn’t sound right to me, Wimbley is more of LB then a DE, body structure, experience and strength. For him to play DE, I bet you $100 that every team will exploit him and run to his side in most running situations. I can see him playing DE in passing situation like third down, but DE the whole game, nah F that, this dude will be a LB.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Any of you guys Irish?
March 14th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Another person’s perspective i read…
The problem with Wimbley is that he only has one move, which is what gave him the 11 sacks in his first year. He is a fast guy obviously, but once teams figured out his basic attack form, he lost his surprise edge, and can’t shed a block for the life of him, and this is only compunded by the fact that more often than not he would leave his side open for fairly easy run yards is they broke through the first level in Cle.
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March 14th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Albert, I agree. The Saints are losers. We’re way better than them. Way better. Did you seem me break down the offensive depth charts? We trump them!
March 14th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Cable’s jerk off hand, I understand that players look better in college than what they really are. I still think Russell’s problems are more to do with a lack of a system, coaching, or any real cohesiveness here than his lack of skills.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
GG
Lets talk with some logic, you have a guy who played DE in college, but in the past 4 yrs he played OLB which requires running, covering and blitzing. Now you trade for this kid and change his position to DE? Its like a guy who played WR in high school and a RB in college only to be drafted to play WR again. Doesn’t sound right to me, Wimbley is more of LB then a DE, body structure, experience and strength. For him to play DE, I bet you $100 that every team will exploit him and run to his side in most running situations. I can see him playing DE in passing situation like third down, but DE the whole game, nah F that, this dude will be a LB.
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Well that’s what I said myself. Just trying to figure out where the Raiders are going with this acquisition. If we didnt sign Wimbley today, i was thinking something more like this….
——Howard—{drafted thumper MLB}—Morrison
Scott—{drafted 43 NT+Kelly}—Seymour+Bryant—Shaughnessy
March 14th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Sorry MR, I’ve been hitting the Guinness a little too hard today.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Obviously.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
We’re still better than the Detroit Lions!!!
March 14th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Cable’s jerk off hand, I understand that players look better in college than what they really are. I still think Russell’s problems are more to do with a lack of a system, coaching, or any real cohesiveness here than his lack of skills.
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You know MR you are a hypocrite, you always talk about people being real immature on here but you’re the first one to name call like you’re still in 6th grade.smh But anyways… You mean to tell me a new system will make jamarcus come to camp inshape? You mean to tell me a new system will make jamarcus more accurate? You believe a new system will make him study harder in the film room??? NO, no and no. Russels issues go deeper than the system. A real qb can adapt to any system,what you’re saying to me is jamarcus is a one trick pony or gimmick qb that can only play in the spread. Which makes him a bum to me, and is why I think he’d be a bum wherever he goes.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Wimbley appears to be Greg Ells’ replacement. Same type of player we’ve picked up before in the mold of Ellis and Burgess.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
We’re not better than the Detroit Lions, Albert. Detroit has at least made moves to improve themselves. We’ve made no moves in upper management, after 7 straight seasons of losing 11 games or more. I don’t just go by last season’s record, I go by the last few seasons, plus the moves being made to improve in the future. We suck in both categories, Albert. Detroit doesn’t. They’ve at least made moves in upper management. When your franchise loses 11 or more games 7 straight seasons, and you have the same GM? You are DEFUNCT. I don’t care if you can pull off 5 wins a year. Notice how that’s it…5 wins.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
Tom Cables Shaky Hand, STFU you loser.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
I’ve never had a problem with people being immature, CAble’s jerk off hand. but I do think it’s funny that a guy who calls himself “pimp hand” is talking about maturity.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
Tom Cables Shaky Hand, STFU you loser.
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So let me guess you’re MR’s new girlfriend or somethin.lol How cute.haha smh
March 14th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Pimpin’,
Russell, or Gradkowski for that matter will absolutely benefit from a better OC. Better management overall would ensure a lot of the off field issues were addressed.
But as far as the things happening on the field, everyone with an opinion knew what an awful play caller Cable was, which is why he is no longer in that position. By default, an improved OC = improved QB play.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
you call yourself “pimp hand” and you talk about girlfriends. Real pimps don’t recognize the term girlfriend. Either she’s making money for you, or she’s playing you. But why am I telling you this? Your name is “pimp hand”. lol. that’s why I call your jerk off hand, because I think you now a lot more about that than pimping.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
I think we are certainly better than the Lions. I’m curious as to what kind of moves you think a new GM would come in here and make to improve the team?
March 14th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
I’ve never had a problem with people being immature, CAble’s jerk off hand. but I do think it’s funny that a guy who calls himself “pimp hand” is talking about maturity.
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Yea it’s a joke. It amuses me as well as you and your lil girlfriend “Ms. Paine”.lol Just because someones mature doen’t mean they have to lose their since of humor. But I could of swore a few times I’ve seen you mention things about maturity… But either way it doesn’t matter I could careless because you’re really not that important.(; haha
March 14th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Jhill
Why do you think Wimbley will replace Ellis, Ellis weights 265 lbs, he plays well against the run, has history playing DE. Wimbley is too weak against the run, don’t you think teams will explore such mismatch? How can Wimbley play DE the whole game when he is can’t hold off his blocker, scouting reports have said that teams would be able to run at him and get to second level, doesn’t make sense to me?
March 14th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
WOW!
A 3rd round pick for Wimbley?
Starter for sure!
March 14th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
I don’t know what a new GM would do, JHIll. I just believe that a team should be judged based upon what they’re doing now, what they’ve done in recent years, and what they’re doing to plan for the future. We’re shyt in all 3 categories, by default, because we still have the same de facto GM running the team who’s already lost 11 or more games 7 years straight! Until Al steps down, we are the worst team in the league, period. Detroit at least has addressed the core of their problem, Matt Millen, and replaced him like a rotten fruit. Unfortunately, our rotten GM owns the team, too, so it’s a much more complicated situation. Whatever the case, it keeps the Raiders at the bottom.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
I think we are certainly better than the Lions. I’m curious as to what kind of moves you think a new GM would come in here and make to improve the team?
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Wether we’re better than the lions or not it doesn’t matter… I don’t care if we were better than the chargers becuase you really don’t matter unless you’re bringing home the hardware. Otherwise we’re all rocking in the same old baoat hopin for next year.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
4eve,
Just guessing is all. I think Howard and Scott are back, so unless Scott is moving to MLB, then where else is Wimbley going to play?
March 14th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Hey Shaky Hand, there’s nothing funny about pimps or abusing women.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Cable’s jerk off hand, some jokes are immature, and calling yourself a pimp on a sports blog is about as immature of a joke as there is. But go ahead, keep calling out peoples’ maturity while you post under the name “pimp hand”. lol
March 14th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
BFD.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Leave OakGlen alone you know he cant help himself.
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# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Cable’s jerk off hand, some jokes are immature, and calling yourself a pimp on a sports blog is about as immature of a joke as there is. But go ahead, keep calling out peoples’ maturity while you post under the name “pimp hand”. lol
March 14th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
That’s what your parents said when you were born, MB. “BFD”.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
RMR,
If you think of it in terms of rebuilding instead of going to playoffs and SBs, I think Al has done a decent job. Perfect? By no means, but this roster has a lot of young talent, and not too many bad contracts left on the books.
7 years froma SB appearance, and the team has been rebuilt and is ready for a playoff run.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
4eve,
Only other explanation is we are drafting a super fat guy like Mt Cody at 8, and switching to the 3-4.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Jhill
If anything Scott will move back to DE and Wimbley will play either SLB or WLB. I think Scott is the better player as far as playing DE and he could replace Ellis.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Ready for a playoff run? Rebuilt? Oh, Jhill said it. That makes more sense now. A moron saying something only a moron would.
No QB
No adequate RB
No #1 WR
Piss poor o-line
Below avg D-line
avg LBs
avg Ss
Yep, theyre ready for a playoff run all right!
March 14th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
jhill Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
RMR,
If you think of it in terms of rebuilding instead of going to playoffs and SBs, I think Al has done a decent job
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Talk about funny! What are you talking about. This teams has been rebuilding for the last six years and still can’t get more than five wins. Decent job? Did I miss something.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
I dont know what they said its a mute point anyway.Why dont you take another crack @ me that one didnt even land..
March 14th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
If you can define losing 11 or more games for 7 straight years, drafting Robert Gallery, Fabian Washington, Michael Huff, JaMarcus Russell, Darren Mcfadden, and Darrius Heyward Bey with first round picks and don’t even make me go over the players we passed up to take them, who have already made huge impacts for their teams, and still having the same GM after all of this, as “DECENT”, then your definition of “decent” is far off from mine, and is far off from Webster’s dictionary, as well. You’ve got your own definition of decent, and I’m guessing in your world it means sub par and desperate.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Kelly – Cody – Seymour
Hmmmm
Teams are franchising these fat fuccs left and right. I guess a #8 pick on one isn’t so far fetched.
LMFAO!
March 14th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Jhill
I thought about us switching 3-4, maybe Seymour spoke to AL Davis this offseason and said that this team needs to switch for him to have a big year. At the same time, why hire Wauffle and bring back Marshall both who seem more suitable to run a 4-3, what you make of this dilemma?
March 14th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
The Jets let go of Thomas Jones only to sign a washed up crybaby in LT. I’d like to send a big fat HUH? to the Jets.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
I didn’t take a crack at you, MB. Aren’t we sensitive today?
March 14th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Tom cables pimphand comes from the idea of tom slapping randy hanson… “A man,” Not beaten on B***ches. Even though after viewing the way Hanson handled the whole situation I see him as B****. An Mr, now we have a such thing as mature and immature jokes now??? And im assuming jerk off hand is a mature joke right? lol F outta here.lmfao And You’re right im immature because after that statement Im callin you a “weenie” because thats what you are. Weenie.lol
March 14th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
draft jimmy clausen !! kill tommy kelly . anally rape jruss with a toxic dildo . and sign l.coles
March 14th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Scott & Shaunnessy will rotate @ LE & this Rob Ryan reject Wimbley likely play Lb. It’s about as much of a wash as you could imagine. We are no better & no worse after this, essentially he is our 3rd round draft pick.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
LOL …
Look who’s come out of the woodworks …
It’s amazing the timing of some of you, wink, wink!
Anyway Ronda …
You mean to tell me that you don’t believe in Bruce Gradkowski? You don’t think he’s the guy Cable was talking about when he said a diff QB all season would have had us in the playoffs?
March 14th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
I would take LT over Jones, are you kidding me?
HUH?
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# Try Some Reality Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
The Jets let go of Thomas Jones only to sign a washed up crybaby in LT. I’d like to send a big fat HUH? to the Jets.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
7 years froma SB appearance, and the team has been rebuilt and is ready for a playoff run.
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LMAO!!!! Looks like Jhill is designated Kool-aid maker for this offseason. First off, it’s been 8 seasons since the Super Bowl year. Second, what exactly makes you think this team will be a playoff contender? Inquiring minds want to know….
March 14th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
The following is a little diddy out of Cleveland.com,
BEREA, Ohio — “On the heels of trading Brady Quinn to Denver, the Browns pulled off another deal that was much more stunning.
They have dealt linebacker Kamerion Wimbley to the Oakland Raiders for undisclosed draft compensation, according to multiple reports.
This deal came out of nowhere. Wimbley, the No. 13 overall pick in 2006, appeared to have regained the form he flashed when he turned in 11 sacks as a rookie”.
A 6′3 255 pound thumper that has a very good first step. There is reports that multiple teams wanted the dude but the Raiders got the deal done because the 3rd round pick they traded to Cleveland was higher then the other clubs that were after him. The Raiders gave up the 3rd round pick they received from New England for Burgess and still own the 8th pick in round 3.
As for the clowns article above about not being able to play for Ryan. The report is that Cleveland has young depth at the position and they did not feel they would be able to resign him. He was going to be in his last year so Cleveland made the move.
Much needed help and a quality 26 year old to boot, great move by the Raiders.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
the jets signing LT just shows that teams all around the league are as dillusional and lost as the raiders are .
March 14th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Cable’s jerk off hand, we know the genesis of your mature handle. We just think it’s hilarious that you’re calling people immature while using it, because really, there’s nothing mature about your handle. The word pimp can only be used maturely if you’re talking about pimps from a 3rd person. To call yourself a pimp in any way, even merely referring to a guy slapping another guy, is pretty immature. There’s nothing mature about it. That’s why it’s hilarious that you’re calling people immature. Don’t you get it? Of course you don’t! Because you’re about as mature as a 10 year old.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
This team is ready for a 5-11 run.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
Shaky Hand, you are so immature.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
THOMAS JONES PLEASE COME TO OAKLAND AND SHOW DMAC HOW TO RUN
March 14th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
No, Albert, Jerk Off Hand is very mature. I think he’s royalty, or something.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
MB – Seriously? You’d take LT over Jones? You do know we’re in 2010, don’t you? News flash, buddy. LT is washed up!!! Thomas Jones ran for 1400 yards with a 4.2 yard average. LT? Try 730 yards with a 3.3 average. And he was pulled in some critical situations which tells you what they think of him.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Why don’t we just draft a running back who knows how to run?
March 14th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Decent job? Did I miss something.
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Cmon man, do I really have to list all the young players we have? I said it hasn’t been perfect, but all the heat Russell is taking says a lot. Most people believe this team would be in the playoffs with consistent QB play. No problem if you disagree.
I think we are a few positions away, which I expect/hope to fill in this draft.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
jhill,
Sorry I’ve been a way for a while. As you can see with the recent roster moves, that I’ve been busy working with Davis and team to get some of the basics done.
I did not win on the argument to restructure Kelly and Huff yet. That’s still up in the air.
But happily I finally got Fargas, Warren and Green out of here!
March 14th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
picture Cable’s Jerk Off Hand settling for dinner in his mansion. “Mumsy, I had just spent the afternoon posting on a Raider blog under thy pseudonym ‘cable’s pimp hand’. I’m trying to set an example of matoooority for the youngins in there”.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
JHill, yes, list all of the young players we have. Do something to make your argument that we’re “decent”, because so far you’ve fallen short. The only thing decent about this franchise is the reality that Al Davis has to quit someday.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
4eve,
I agree with you on the coaching angle. I just don’t know man. Either Wimbley’s playing Ellis’s spot or we are drafting Cody. I’ll gladly entertain other ideas on where Wimbley fits in.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
funniest thing i read all year .
today a charger fan posted . WAY TO GO L.T. GET THAT RING THEN COME BACK AND RETIRE AS A CHARGER . lol
March 14th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Mature and Raider blog shouldn’t be used in the same sentence.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
What would Redskins want from the Raiders besides 8th overall, Asmough and Seymour if we try to trade for DT Albert Haynesworth?
He seems unhappy about the team switch from 4-3 to 3-4.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
T Jones has seen better days as well. Norv Turner is a derelict thats why LT lost carries to Sproles. Reminds me of the year Turner used Moss as a decoy! HELLO!
LT @ 80% is better than T Jones on his down side. I wouldn’t want either of them I rather Cable pulls his fat head out of his fat a$$ and use DMAC & Bush properly and get the O-line to at least a respectable level but that isnt happening anytime soon..
March 14th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/20072/does-l-t-add-something-jones-couldnt
does anyone else see the humor in that statement ?
March 14th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Scott & Shaunnessy will rotate @ LE
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Why do you think Scott won’t be a LB again next season?
March 14th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
MR… Stop, you sound ridiculous, you’ve gotta be the dumbest lil s*** on the web.lol You just ramble at the mouth and think you’re saying somethin but you’re not. Obviously you’re the type that likes to hear themselves talk. I can tell by the way you like to argue, you need a woman.lol Maybe that’s why you like to argue so much because you’re alone and angry huh? It’s alright Mr, you’ll find her, theres somebody out there for everybody.But just because you haven’t found her yet doesn’t mean you have to take ya aggressions out on the poor souls on this blog.lol(;
March 14th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
I assume Wimbley will play LB, what did they sign him for ? To be JaMeatloafs waiter ?
HELLO
March 14th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
jhill,
Sorry I’ve been a way for a while.
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Job well done!
March 14th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
He’s just a Drama queen, get over it.
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# Tom cables pimp hand Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
MR… Stop, you sound ridiculous, you’ve gotta be the dumbest lil s*** on the web.lol You just ramble at the mouth and think you’re saying somethin but you’re not. Obviously you’re the type that likes to hear themselves talk. I can tell by the way you like to argue, you need a woman.lol Maybe that’s why you like to argue so much because you’re alone and angry huh? It’s alright Mr, you’ll find her, theres somebody out there for everybody.But just because you haven’t found her yet doesn’t mean you have to take ya aggressions out on the poor souls on this blog.lol(;
March 14th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Do something to make your argument that we’re “decent”, because so far you’ve fallen short.
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I know it hasn’t been that long sice the season ended. Are you really telling me that last year’s theme of “If only we had consistent QB play …” has faded from your memory?
If the QB was the only thing holding us back, doesn’t that mean we had to have some pretty decent players are a few other position? I think we can legitimately argue that this team is probably 4 position away from being a legit division contender. MLB, DT, and 2 Oline positions get upgraded, we’re right there.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
I assume Wimbley will play LB, what did they sign him for
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Well that’s kinda what we are kicking around. Scott going from full time starter who was pretty productive, to rotational player makes no sense. I’d be more inclined to believe he was moving to MLB than rotating with Shaugnessy.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
JHill,
I agree, an MLB, run clogging DT, RG and RT should be enough to get the team right.
Of course the biggest signing in the offseason was Hue Jackson. Getting Cable away from playcalling was the whole Addition by Subtraction angle…getting Jackson was actually upgrading the position with good talent.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
I think with Wimbley trade, this team is more suitable for a 3-4 defense. A NT and MLB we would be able to implement it and it would also make us a big time blitzing team if you entertain the idea of having MM in third down situations.
LDE Shaugnessy/Richardson Rookie NT/Kelly RDE Seymour/Bryant
LOLB Wimbley ILB Howard/Morrison ILB Rookie ROLB Scott
Front seven would get better right away.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
This would be true if we didn’t have a meathead for a coach & JaMarshmallow looming in the back ground. Not to mention Cable hasn’t done anything with the o-line in what 4 years now?
However, since our coach is a meathead and JaBiscuitsAndGravy is in the mix 5-12 is more likely.
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# jhill Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
I know it hasn’t been that long sice the season ended. Are you really telling me that last year’s theme of “If only we had consistent QB play …” has faded from your memory?
If the QB was the only thing holding us back, doesn’t that mean we had to have some pretty decent players are a few other position? I think we can legitimately argue that this team is probably 4 position away from being a legit division contender. MLB, DT, and 2 Oline positions get upgraded, we’re right there.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Regardless of 3-4 or 4-3 —although I see 4-3 staying…
The Raiders need to address run cloogging DT and MLB before training camp gets started.
I am also excited to see if Jackson can get Bush and DMAC going (unobstructed with pressure to give carries to Fargas) and if JaDavis actually comes into camp committed and in shape
March 14th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
With Ellis out of the mix I would assume Scott is going back to his natural position, with the signing of Wimbley I would say that is reinforced, but..
This is the Oakland Raiders we are talking about.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
I forgot about Shaugnessy opposite Seymour at DE.
Kelly is NOT a 3-4 NT. That would be a disaster IMO. 3-4 DE? Yes, but Hhheeellll to the naw to Kelly at NT.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
I would assume Scott is going back to his natural position,
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There was NOTHING natural about Scott at DE. He was THE reason we were in the market for Dline help last year. He was such a disaster at that position during preseason, it was embarrasing.
March 14th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Shaugnessy-Kelly-Seymour-Wimbley
Wimbley-Scott-Howard
One of those 2 scenarions HAVE to be in play.
Or are we switching to the 3-4?
March 14th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
hats why I’m here to fill in the blanks for you.
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jhill Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
I forgot about Shaugnessy opposite Seymour at DE.
March 14th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
Thats*
March 14th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
Interesting. Wonder what the next move will be.
Lets trade for Vickers the FB from Cleveland!
March 14th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Ok BBQ time.
March 14th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
DE is more natural than LB! Didnt he play DE in College?
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# jhill Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
There was NOTHING natural about Scott at DE.
March 14th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
TE in college I thought.
Just talking about his awful play of the field as a DE vs his decent play as a LB.
March 14th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Scott was actually a converted TE in college.
March 14th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
TE to DE that is
March 14th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
I thought Stryker Sulak was going to fix our LB probs.
March 14th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Cable’s jerk off hand, I understand that players look better in college than what they really are. I still think Russell’s problems are more to do with a lack of a system, coaching, or any real cohesiveness here than his lack of skills.
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No Oline.
No wides.
No running game did not help his cause.
March 14th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Scott was a decent pass rusher from DE but he was horrendus vs the run. I liked his play at LB too but adding Wimbley just makes me say Scott back to DE.
I have no problem with him and Shaunnesy rotating.
March 14th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Nnamdi hows that hope & change working? Still got your head buried in the sand or have you saw the light yet ?
March 14th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Oaklands had success finding DE’s the last few years.
Burgess was a disappointment in Philly.
Chris Clemmons racked up sacks here.
Shaughnessy’s showing signs.
Got production out of Ellis.
Wimbley might contribute too.
March 14th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
How about Mike Mitchell at SLB?
March 14th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Nnamdi hows that hope & change working? Still got your head buried in the sand or have you saw the light yet ?
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No problem with my vision.
March 14th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
MM smashed Jacobs for a loss on a goalline stand last season, actually Jacobs came off after that hit.
March 14th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Ok Nnamdi, your head is still up in there. I’ll check back with you in 6 months..
March 14th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Whats up losers?
March 14th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
Nnamdi,
We traded a 3rd rd pick for Wimbley. I think this is little different than the reclamation projects you mention.
March 14th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
Nnamdi, some people that didnt even like Bush want Bush back about now.
Just sayin..
March 14th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
MM at LB?
Well with Howard getting a 2nd rd tender, the Wimbley trade, and Scott playing well at the position, I don’t think he’d get on the field.
March 14th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Moms was just over talking about how one of her staunch Republican Obama hater friends will be voting for Obama next election. His “save your house” thingamagigga actaully saved her house.
March 14th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
# jhill Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
MM at LB?
Well with Howard getting a 2nd rd tender, the Wimbley trade, and Scott playing well at the position, I don’t think he’d get on the field.
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Just throwing it out there. But i agree. Id rather MM at SS and Branch eventually to FS as originally intended, develop towards that.
What about Wimbley MLB then? It’s just confusing cos youd definitely want Howard @ Will, and I was thinking why let Morrison go when he could be utilized well @ Sam. If Wimbley converts to MLB, then you’d look at Scott as rotational behind Shaughnessy with that Pierre DE dude at RE, or Scott-Shaughnessy bookends and draft elsewhere like DT/OT.
March 14th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Nnamdi, thats great to hear! After she took on a loan she couldn’t afford, her & obama took from the people who live within their means to bail her out! Thats Hope & Change, or better known as wealth distribution.
Your moms friend sounds like to me should have been a Dem all along..
March 14th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Hey DOLT UP UR CULO. go choke on a dik!!!!!!!
March 14th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
check out his stats right here!!
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=3685
March 14th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
So, I have some bad news. My band broke up. The good news is I am in a new band called Liquid Blue. I’m the guy in the hat:
http://www.lo-cal.com/bands/liquidblue/
March 14th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Madden 2010 Rankings:
Kirk Morrison – 87 Overall
Thomas Howard – 85 Overall
Kamerion Wimbley – 78 Overall
March 14th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
San Diego, who cares about the guy in the hat!! What I want to know is….who’s that girl in the blue!! lol!
March 14th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
That is my girlfriend.
March 14th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
oh…..really?
March 14th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
How do you think I got the gig?
March 14th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
It’s not what you know…it’s who you know!
March 15th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
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