Brooks’ mock: Suh to Raiders at No. 8
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, March 17th, 2010 at 4:45 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Conventional wisdom, if there is such a thing in terms of the draft, has it that the Raiders are out of the running for either of the prize defensive tackles.
Oklahoma’s Gerald McCoy and Nebraska’s Ndamukong Suh gone by the first three picks.
If Al Davis were looking to get one one of those two players to help plug a porous middle and join Tommy Kelly and Desmond Bryant, he would almost certainly have to trade up.
Bucky Brooks, a former Raiders defensive back and NFL.com correspondent, maps out a scenario where Suh could fall to the Raiders at No. 8 in his most recent mock draft.
If this were to happen, and Suh ends up being the call, Al Davis ought to offer him a job.
At the tail end of last season, Richard Seymour and Greg Ellis were singing Suh’s praises during casual conversation, believing him to be worthy of his considerable reputation.
His Big 12 title game performance against Texas was as dominant a game as I’ve seen from a defensive tackle in college football.
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March 17th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
YOU’RE KIDDING ME? WOW!!!
March 17th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
BullSheet!!!
March 17th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
That could be true, Krappy.
But guaranteed, not a single Davis’ loyalist thinks the problem can be solved by posting the Raiders record day in and day out on a football blog.
So … that makes you lower than them, huh?
Don’t worry, I answer that for you. Yes, it does.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Beecham, no matter what anyone does, they can never be lower than a Davis loyalist. There is nothing lower. Don’t you get it?
March 17th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Hey Dumb Beeych
29-83, Al Davis’s record as GM over the last 7 years.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
MR yeah its a sickness.. Im ridin with Big Al till the wheels fall off.. that’s just me. I’ll admit it’s not healthy but I am 4sho human.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
1st of all, who gives a damn what Sucky Brooks has to say. 2nd, even if he did fall to us, you can count on Al not taking him.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
If suh was sto fall to 8 and we drafted him. Omg, I scream like we just won the sb.lol
March 17th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Krappy, that’s why you love the Raiders so much – you both have so much losing in common! It’s like looking in the mirror, huh old dude?
And to think any 70 year old dude would have a consistent record of failure exactly like the Raiders – and then brag about it daily on a football!
You’re the best, Krap Krap! Don’t ever change!
March 17th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Seriously, a GM working on 29-83, and you expect him to fix the problem? really????
March 17th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
I’ve wanted an O lineman at #8 for quite a while.
If Suh were available at #8. I’d make that pick.
Who knows? Stranger things have happened.
March 17th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
RMR, even you know that’s a ridiculous statement!
You’re lower than a Raider loyalist – you’re a timid little tattletale.
Krappy is lower than a Raider loyalist – he’s a racist plagiarist who craps his pants 6 times a day.
Broslam, if you’re going to stick your neck out like that, you know its going to get chopped off!
March 17th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Why dont you post the all time record have you been a raider fan for only seven years
March 17th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
There’s no better reflection of an owner’s sheer want of winning than how much they in fact do win.
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Kell, can’t sugar coat the record for sure.
Amongst many problems, I think continuity of a coaching staff has to rank amongst the largest issues.
I’d like to see some stability on the offensive side of the ball. Run the same system for 3 or 4 years.
Let players get comfortable and play, as oppossed to thinking about what their nassignment is, year after year.
March 17th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
ooopps. pasted an old reponse.
March 17th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Must be the St Patricks Day Beer.
March 17th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
# buckeyeraider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Rich-O,
Thanks for the computer advice the other day. Maybe I was out of line for sticking my nose into other people’s “bidness”. I just thought some of the personal stuff was getting out of hand. But who the hell am I to say.
Richochet: Welcome on the advice, and no biggee on the other. It’s offseason..I mean how many mock drafts can one read? lol….
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For whatever reason, you’ve always been cool to me.
So, what happened during Super Bowl week in ‘02? What did Al do to pizz everybody off? I have no idea to what you were alluding to.
RICHOCHET:
Super Bowl.
League allotted out set amount of tickets to team to distribute to front office, players, and set amount for fans. (not that many, all things considered..NFL takes care of EVERYONE before the participating teams fans).
After announcing which fans received tickets, it came to the attention of the NFL that a couple of THOUSAND tickets weren’t accounted for..as in “send us our money for tickets sold”.
Raiders tried to pass off the discrepancy as they “used them for front office personnel” except even if everyone got 10 ducats each, from the janitor on up, (which is against the rules for distributing) there were STILL COUPLE THOUSAND NOT ACCOUNTED FOR..
Soooo…finally Al admitted that he had HELD BACK TICKETS DESTINED FOR FANS in order to try and entice luxury box prospective clients..(he has the right to do that with TICKETS DESIGNATED TO THE TEAM AND ORGANIZATION, BUT NOT TICKETS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO GO TO FANS….sooooo..NOW..Raiders, with egg on face, admit “ok we have tickets for fans..
except..
now it’s Monday of SB week..no time to divvy up tickets and get them out to fans…so..we’re going to pull FANS NAMES FROM A LOTTERY, and then we’re going to CALL FANS TO INFORM THEM THEY ARE ENTITLED TO TWO TICKETS..
oh..and IF WE CALL AND YOU AREN’T HOME? Sorry..we go to the next person on the list.
NOW A WHOLE SLEW OF RAIDER TICKET HOLDERS stayed home from work, in the event they got a call..obviously most didn’t.
Now..those that did get a call? had to go by after 4PM Friday to will call, to pick up tickets.
Lot’s couldn’t get to will call friday night before will call closed, so had to go Sat.
Then had to leave right from will call and drive to San Diego for the SB on Sunday.
OBVIOUSLY ALL THE HOTEL ROOMS WERE ALREADY BOOKED..so many/most had to sleep in their cars…
ALL BECAUSE AL HELD BACK TICKETS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO GO TO FANS TO BEGIN WITH.
And it gets worse.
After the SB?
Alameda Cty had scheduled a parade, paid for by the county to say thanks to the Raiders, regardless of win or lose…AL REFUSED TO ALLOW THE TEAM TO GO…ALL BECAUSE OF AL’S ONGOING PISSING CONTEST WITH THE COUNTY…County stated publicly ‘Well do whatever Al wants to do..whatever day he wants..just call us and let us know, and we’ll schedule it”
Al never called..no one called.
So..a Fan Appreciation Day was scheduled shortly thereafter, not a parade, just an outing..fans show up, players show up etc…
AND AL ALSO VETOED THAT..told the whole team they are not allowed to attend. No coaches, no players..no one.
Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Rich Gannon and many others stated that was total BS. Rice stated he was embarrassed that Al would do that to the fans, and the team, because of his silly battles, and that fans deserved it..and so did the team.
Allegedly over 4000 fans showed up, expecting players and coaches to be there, only to wait and wait..finally being told Al wouldn’t allow players to attend.
That was the beginning of the end for many fans as far as how they felt about Al..
March 17th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
We should trade up to get Suh. Trade our first plus the 2012 first round pick. That should get it done without hurting our ability this year to bring in as many new linemen & MLB as possible. Is Suh worth 2 possible high 1st round picks? Damn straights he is!
March 17th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
408, you’re either joking about “riding with Al till the wheel’s fall off”, or you’re somewhere between man and baboon on the evolution chart.
March 17th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Kelli?
Any luck selling the one and only listing you’ve had for seemingly ever?
Oh…you wouldn’t know..you were here.
Oh well.
March 17th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Richochet, nobody’s going to read that.
March 17th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
That long comment.
March 17th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
JB Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
We should trade up to get Suh. Trade our first plus the 2012 first round pick. That should get it done without hurting our ability this year to bring in as many new linemen & MLB as possible. Is Suh worth 2 possible high 1st round picks? Damn straights he is!
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I would not do that.
March 17th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
· Oakglenn Says:
April 4th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Will the Raiders take Heyward-Bey with the overall #7??? No. The reason: He does not have a passion for the game that a guy you are going to sink 10’s of millions of dollars should. If the Raiders were an NBA team, yeah, you might think about it.
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You ever get tired of being wrong, Seymour?
March 17th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
· Mistabrown Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Jerry is it true OakGlenn tried to reg 65 screen names ?
March 17th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
MR, I actually read it. i don’t normally.
Rack- O said that Al screwed the fans during the SB in 2002.
It sounds like Al’s methodology.
If true…wow.
March 17th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Ghost to the Post Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
Thanks guys. I don’t consider myself an Al Davis Loyalist. Just a realist. I am hoping you only get to bag on us 7 or 8 times this year. Hoping I said. Happy St. Patricks day to you all. Go Raiders.
March 17th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Richochet, nobody’s going to read that.
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Buckeye will….he asked in the past..promised I would follow through.
Hence the history lesson on why Al Davis is a piece of crap.
March 17th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
I actually read that long post too. I was in no mood for a parade after that game. Al has screwed us several times. It’s par for his course. L.A., Irwindale, Oakland. It’s really pretty sad.
March 17th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
# RaiderLen Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
MR, I actually read it. i don’t normally.
Rack- O said that Al screwed the fans during the SB in 2002.
It sounds like Al’s methodology.
If true…wow.
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Every word is true…was a pretty big deal at the time..local stations were making a story out of some who stayed home, then following up to see if they got a call…at least the ones they followed didn’t..obviously many did.
And the parades canceled were also ongoing local news.
March 17th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Al had the same comment after the parade fiasco that he had back in 81 when he moved the Raiders south..when informed that many fans were really upset…
Al “They don’t own the team. I DO!!”
March 17th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
There’s no way Suh would fall all the way down to the 8th spot. He wouldnt get pass Tampa Bay, the only way the Raiders get Suh is to trade up to Detroit’s #2 spot. It would be nice though. Wouldnt be mad at that at all.
March 17th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
The fans DON’T own the team…Al & partners do.
And…RickyLake’s story about fans not having a chance to get their tix and/or hotel rooms before the Super Bowl is a gross over-dramatization.
With so little time between the AFC Championship and the Super Bowl, anyone offered a chance to go already realizes it’s a short-notice deal to start with.
As far as hotel rooms during Super Bowl weekend…the city of San Diego wasn’t even near their hotel room capacity — no matter the short notice. I (and a number of friends) had the choice of at least a dozen well-known hotels to choose from at the “last minute” — all under $150 per night.
Short notice? Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
A parade that was poorly (hardly) planned, to celebrate one of the worst a$$-kickings in SB history? Supported by the same City that has nothing good to say about the team and/or the owner at the time? The underwhelming parade, in an under-developed (by the City, by the way) and stagnant part of Town was a horrible idea from the start…and would’ve made for terrible TV.
No parade for 2nd place? Waaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
RickyLake just loves to stir the pot, because she has nothing else to do. Certainly nothing constructive to discuss. Just flammable BS.
March 17th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Nice Rebuttle Haze, Truth must be somewhere in the middle?
March 17th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Rich-O,
Thanks. I hadn’t heard about any of that. If all true, that’s sad. That’s pouring salt in the still raw wounds of No. Calif. Raider fans. Maybe that’s why there seems to be more resentment from Bay Area fans than the rest of “Raider Nation”. From leaving his rabid fan base to begin with, to the sweetheart deal at taxpayer expense to entice him back. To pulling stunts like that. Wow. That is sad.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
At the time, the Coliseum and the City were all over Al…because THEY didn’t hold up their ends of the bargain.
The media didn’t even know the facts (still don’t) about how the Raiders (and PSL holders) were led down the path…by falsehoods from those in charge of selling seats. Rather than look at facts, the easy target is Al Davis…especially since he has a distaste for a lot of press.
There’s a reason why the Raiders had to take over the ticket sales…the first reason was to find out just how many seats have really been sold (as opposed to what was promised).
Of course…the City/Coliseum’s BS tactics in re-acquiring the Raiders are largely ignored now. And Al gets the blame for every failing neighborhood, the collapsing Coliseum, and the tens of million$ still owed for Mount Davis.
Al’s sure not pefect, but he’s not quite the villain THOSE ON THE OUTSIDE of the fray like to PRETEND to know.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Buckeye
I think within a week of his return to Oakland, he sued the City for 1 Billion dollars.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Also, longtime local fans know that there were quite a few other significant contributers to the Raider’s success than Al Davis.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Public relations have never been a Raider strong point. In fact they seem to sneer at them. They embrace the role of villian in every way. But, even with their own fans? Seems a strange way to do business. I guess you either love em, or hate em.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
Reekofshyt-
Nobody reads your long, boring posts.
You’re a coward-attacking others on a blog.
I’ll bet you couldn’t beat up a ten year old.
Now- go ahead and fire off a cut and paste. We all know that makes you feel better.
I won’t read it though.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
I wish he would fall that far but it’ll never happen. Unless you’re the Raiders, Browns, or Lions.
You never pass on talent like his. Three of the worst drafting teams right here
March 17th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
As a Raider fan, I don’t mind OCCASIONALLY being pissed off by my own team. It’s kind of nice to have an organization that I support, but don’t break my back for… to give me the same treatment in turn, rather than kissing my ass. However, of late… I’ve had way too much s-h-i-t thrown in my direction, either intentionally or by way of accidental splatter, for me to remain calm and maintain the rah-rah status quo. I love my team, but the bleeding and B.S. have to stop. Go Raiders!
March 17th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
The self-professed uber-Realtor KK lives right down the street…and professes to only go to games when they’re blacked-out, so he can get a cheap ticket from a scalper…and NOT buy anything inside the stadium.
Then, he spends every waking moment of his time in this forum, telling the world how Al has screwed the City over and over…and how the City and County have suffered at the hands of villainous Al…
But WAIT!!!
By buying that scalped ticket, and by not buying anything in the stadium…KK is bypassing all taxes and surcharges (THAT WOULD HELP PAY FOR MT. DAVIS) that would go right to City coffers.
That makes KK an enemy of his own City, doesn’t it?!?
Oh yeah…it also deserves a:
HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT
for the one…the only…inimitable KoolKell!
What a HYPOCRITE.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
As for this post by Jerry. Suh sliding to Oakland at eight.Please, I think my friend Raider O would like some of what Brooks is smoking.
Not in less Suh tested positive for Cocaine at the combine. And got busted with kiddie porn on his laptop. Only then, maybe would Suh slide to eight. Maybe.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
The self-professed uber-Realtor KK lives right down the street…and professes to only go to games when they’re blacked-out, so he can get a cheap ticket from a scalper…and NOT buy anything inside the stadium.
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You’re a gawdamned lying son of bytch?
March 17th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
HayesDaze37
You’re a gawdamned lying son of bytch, but I guess you already knew that, carry on.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
The Draft?
The Raiders may be in a great spot to TRADE down a few spots…and get either the LB or O-lineman they covet, and get back another mid-round pick in the trade.
Suh to the Raiders @ #8 isn’t going to happen. But, man it’s nice to think about.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
Kell,
I still love ya, you crazy old coot. (no sarcasm) Please tell me a story about the old days when we still won games… I can’t remember anything before the ‘02 SB anymore.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
I remember watching games back when we were in L.A.
I remember Marcus Allen.
I remember being a fan.
I just can’t remember any WINS anymore…
March 17th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Wait… I take that back… I remember being in the Coliseum… in 2006… the Steelers were in town… and Carr picked one off at the goalline and ran it back all the way. I remember Big Ben getting knocked out of that game. I remember a WIN~! HELL YEAH!!!
March 17th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
I also remember seats on the North 48 yard line being 480 bucks for 17th row… that sucked.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
That was either the week before Halloween or the week of Halloween… not sure anymore.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
Oh well, I’ll have another glass of Jameson for all of you this fine Saint Patrick’s Day. Here’s to the hope of a bright future, however faint that light may be.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Aww, KK — Struck a nerve, did I? Don’t make me go back and find some of your ridiculous statements — dunno if I have the energy of the trolls.
After all these years…do you deny “advising” people to NOT spend their money on the team and/or to not buy any gear until Al gets a GM?
Or…are you Al’s good buddy all of a sudden, KK? Do you actually think most people in here don’t already know your game?
KK — The hater…who tries to deny he’s a hater! Even though we read the hate he spews all day long.
You need thicker skin, KK! I can tweak your nerves anytime I want. You’re a closet Al lover — your fixation gives you away.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
Alright Steve,
People always talk about the immaculate reception, tuck rules and other official offenses against the Raiders.
1969 Raiders VS KC AFL Title game. Raiders hold a slim lead, but KC is driving with the clock running out.
Len Dawson hits Otis Taylor on an out pattern for a first down and a possible game winning field goal.
While Otis Taylor was still down after the catch, Ben Davidson comes in late and blatantly spears Taylor. Tack the penalty on to the reception right?
No, Taylor get’s up and swings at Davidson, ref’s call him for it, erasing the play and preserving the Raider win and their 1st Super Bowl appearance.
How’s that?
March 17th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
I have been saying it for weeks. We will Trade Up for Suh.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Take your head out of your ass, little boy.
See, it’s easy enough to just do a little search to see every comment I made was DEAD ON…BUT..FOR FUN?
Let me slap your ignorant ass around..knowing full well you’ll be waving that white flag, little boy.
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# HayesDaze37 Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
The fans DON’T own the team…Al & partners do.
RICHOCHET: Good one, Gomer…yeah, everyone knows. Point is you don’t RUB FANS FACE IN IT AND TELL THEM THEY DON’T MEAN SQUAT, you ignorant fool.
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And…RickyLake’s story about fans not having a chance to get their tix and/or hotel rooms before the Super Bowl is a gross over-dramatization.
With so little time between the AFC Championship and the Super Bowl, anyone offered a chance to go already realizes it’s a short-notice deal to start with.
RICHOCHET: you’re full of schyt…teams in the championship game are given notice to how many tickets they will be allotted to the SB, BEFORE they even play the conference championship game, DUMBASS.
Fans of teams in the conference game are notified how and when to pick up tickets, if they’re chosen, and if their team wins…DUMBASS.
I told you, little boy…don’t mess with the adults..stay in the sand box.
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As far as hotel rooms during Super Bowl weekend…the city of San Diego wasn’t even near their hotel room capacity — no matter the short notice. I (and a number of friends) had the choice of at least a dozen well-known hotels to choose from at the “last minute” — all under $150 per night.
RICHOCHET: Lying crock of crap…BULL****.
What? You’re going to say you actually CALLED A DOZEN HOTELS? lmao…dude..if you’re going to lie, at least think, so you don’t crap on yourself. Because who in the hell, at the last minute, CALLS A DOZEN HOTELS? no one…liar. Place was sold out…like lots of fans found out when they went down.
Unlike you, I don’t have to make crap up, little boy.
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Short notice? Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Richochet: Thanks for verifying the “little boy” part..idiot kid. You didn’t go, lying tool…so you don’t know what most felt finding out the last minute they’re taking off. Yeah, most were happy to go..but not that way, DUMBASS.
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A parade that was poorly (hardly) planned, to celebrate one of the worst a$$-kickings in SB history? Supported by the same City that has nothing good to say about the team and/or the owner at the time? The underwhelming parade, in an under-developed (by the City, by the way) and stagnant part of Town was a horrible idea from the start…and would’ve made for terrible TV.
No parade for 2nd place? Waaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
RICHOCHET: In other words, you know I’m telling the truth, you’re just trying to act like it meant nothing to the fans that Al bailed? You’re an idiot, little boy…Almost EVERY CITY THAT IS IN THE SUPERBOWL PLANS A PARADE, shyte for brains, IN ADVANCE..usually the Tuesday following the SB..and fans SHOW UP, DUMBASS, TO SAY THANKS FOR A GREAT SEASON, win or lose.
Terrible TV? WTF??? You have any idea what you’re babbling about, little boy? it’s not for TV, dumbass..it’s for the fans…might get 20 seconds in the sportscast…moron..if that.
Ask your mommy and daddy about it..they can tell you.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
Buckeye,
Rams take a QB, we trade with the Lions, and draft Suh!
Legalize it!
March 17th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
See for the younger guys like myself, I guess we aren’t as mad at Al as the old-guys, because I’ve never seen the Raiders win anything. Really I am a diehard Raiders, Warriors, SF Giants and Cal Bears fan. I never seen any of my teams win shyt.
Just a few World Series losses, and a complete disaster of a Super Bowl. I went to all the playoff games in the Gannon era, and had the time of my life.
So I guess it just doesn’t fry me as much as you KoolKell. I’ve grown accustomed to disappointment.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
# Boss Raider 650 Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
Reekofshyt-God of my life, he that I live to read…
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How sweet is this guy?
A nobody who signs onto a blog, JUST TO POST TO ME??
And then feigns dis-interest in a retort, too stupid to realize he already proved he reads all of my comments?
You’re just as precious as you can be, Bessy…you come back when you get pube one, and raise your hand..and maybe we’ll call on you.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Kell,
I was not aware of that play. I have many DVDs of Raider games and Raider moments that came before my birth in 1980 (first SB champs to follow my birth… the Oakland Raiders), but haven’t ever seen that one in any of them. Thank you for passing along something POSITIVE. Cheers.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Suh is not falling to 8. Neither is McCoy. Rest assured that the teams ahead of Oakland understand the need for good line play.
The Raiders need to draft Dan Williams at #8. Warren spot is rightfully open and Bryant and Kelly aren’t run cloggers.
Oh, by the way, the Raiders have had to top 5 worst run defenses every year for 6 or 7 years now.
D-Line helps the linebacking corps…thus making a better overall team. A guy that can become a player that needs to be doubled increases the effectiveness of Kelly and the DE (Seymour or Shaughnessy).
Stop the doggone run! Use the later rounds for the other positions
And for goodness sakes…no Taylor Mays or Bruce Campbell
March 17th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
Tyvon Branch was a guest on Chronicle Live today. All the talk about JR’s new body is true. He’s looking lean and mean, and according to Branch, he’s hitting the weights hard. He also called blsht on the “JR has lost the locker room” babbble. Said he believes JR will be a great QB. Anyone on this board who claims to know what’s happening in the locker room is full of sht.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
Watching this America’s Game on the 1990 Giants and one thing stood out.
Carl Banks was talking about Hostetler that year, and he said along the lines that everybody in the lockerroom was pulling for the Hoss because he was a rah-rah guy, went into special teams huddles and even ran the scout team sometimes.
For those that say that chemistry stuff is overrated, the Giants won the bowl that year. We all saw Hostetler for years, he wasn’t nothing special.
But he get everyone moving in the right direction and led his team. That’s what a QB is supposed to be born with the innate ability to do.
I just don’t see it in Russell yet. Maybe this year, but otherwise he just has to play lights out to get his teammates respect. Not an easy gig, but that’s what it is.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
More nonsense from the BS artist known as RickyLake.
Not only did I NOT have to go pick up my Super Bowl tix at Will Call (either in Oakland or San Diego)…but my ticket rep got my tix delivered right to my front door with time for me to make the trip to San Diego.
As far as hotel rooms go…I know DOZENS of people who went to the Super Bowl in San Diego. All “last minute” invitees like me. All had NO PROBLEM finding a hotel room. AND…the online booking agents had an abundance of rooms. How would I know this? Well, the easy way to find out was to do a little research.
RickyLake…chasing her smelly tail of hate, trying to tell stories (lies and/or exaggerations) that SHE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT (or little about, mostly based on conjecture). Those of us who were there, or experienced it, are the ONLY people who should be asked about the experience. Anybody else is using imagination to fill their shady needs.
Keep on chasing that smelly tail, Ricky girl. Keep on chasing that stink.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
What, that Kelly fella didn’t work out for Al? Go figure…
March 17th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Alford — That play is on NFL Network, on one rivalries or bloopers clip or another, about once a week. It’s classic old Raiders.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Vegas Raider
That rah-rah stuff don’t me $)@)$% if you don’t produce. Hostetler produced for that stretch and then happily let him go.
Also, Bruce Gradkowski DOES NOT equal Hostetler. Hostetler wasn’t cut 3x….brought in as 3rd string and promoted only becauset the 2nd string actually quit and the 1st stringer virtually quit…
I don’t believe in fairy tales…and thinking “Grads” LOL…can lead this team to anything is simply a fairy tale.
He ain’t Kurt Warner either…so spare that comparison.
Its all about JaDavis rededicating himself….that’s the only real hope. If you don’t think JaDavis can do it…then you better hope for a QB in the draft.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
You freaking moron..you don’t have a clue, do you?
lol…damn…you’re even easier to slap down than Kelli or Oakglen..
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# HayesDaze37 Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
At the time, the Coliseum and the City were all over Al…because THEY didn’t hold up their ends of the bargain.
RICHOCHET: YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT. Tell you what..you borrow someone’s balls, take a stab at it, and I guarantee you I’ll school you on it.
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The media didn’t even know the facts (still don’t) about how the Raiders (and PSL holders) were led down the path…by falsehoods from those in charge of selling seats. Rather than look at facts, the easy target is Al Davis…especially since he has a distaste for a lot of press.
RICHOCHET; Again, you’re talking from your ass..you don’t know one single thing about it, do you? Tell me about the falsehoods? Hell, tell me WHAT GAME IT WAS THAT THE COUNTY USED TO STATE ’see, fans love us’..hell, while you’re at it, tell us all about the Dallas game, in year one, fiasco..have ANY IDEA WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT? I guarantee your sorry pathetic ass doesn’t. Then tell me the biggest setback OFMA had regarding tickets…
You can’t, because you’re an idiot…and you’re just babbling stupid crap, hoping something sticks.
Hell…for fun? What was the delay for, on the day of the signing?
Anything?
Come on little boy…step up or shut the hell up.
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There’s a reason why the Raiders had to take over the ticket sales…the first reason was to find out just how many seats have really been sold (as opposed to what was promised).
RICHOCHET: bull****..you idiot..lol..you don’t have a clue. THE COUNTY GAVE THE CONTROL OF TICKET SALES BACK TO THE RAIDERS, dumbass, accepting the fact PSL’s didn’t work, so the PSL’s were scrapped, and turned over to the Raiders.
And damn, you moron…you don’t realize how stupid the comment is “find out how many were really sold as compared to what was promised’??? THIS WAS 11 YEARS AFTER THE RAIDERS CAME BACK TO OAKLAND, YOU IDIOT. Raiders knew exactly how many season tickets there were, right after the first season fiasco was over.
Take your head out of your ass if you want to try and discuss things…
Again, fool, what was the #1 fiasco at the beginning?
Any idea?
Go ahead..go Google, lol…see if that will help you.
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Al’s sure not pefect, but he’s not quite the villain THOSE ON THE OUTSIDE of the fray like to PRETEND to know.
RICHOCHET: AL’S A LOWLIFE SCUMBAG..and if you want to defend him read up first, asswipe, or I’ll just continue to embarrass your ignorant ass.
There is no single person on any team, any sport, across this country that is more despised and view as a lowlife snake, than Al Davis.
No city wants to deal with him…fans don’t want to deal with him…head coaches don’t want to deal with him..for a reason, little boy.
Again..ask mommy and daddy what that might be…then come back.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Howdy Hayes,
I never turned cable back on after the season ended. I only get cable from August til Feb, then I cancel it because I don’t watch any tv unless football games are on.
March 17th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Grads will be tough to beat out before the season starts. But, he may be fragile. JaMarcus/Frye/Losman/MysteryQB can’t be far away.
If Grads doesn’t get beaten-out for the starter’s job, the Raiders will be in good hands.
Don’t let the haters get you down boys, girls and ‘tweeners!
It’s a great night to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?!
March 17th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
To continue that thought, I watch NFLN constantly during the season, but have never seen their nostalgia specials… I guess they only show those during the offseason.
March 17th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Suh is not falling to 8. Neither is McCoy. Rest assured that the teams ahead of Oakland understand the need for good line play.
The Raiders need to draft Dan Williams at #8. Warren spot is rightfully open and Bryant and Kelly aren’t run cloggers.
Oh, by the way, the Raiders have had to top 5 worst run defenses every year for 6 or 7 years now.
D-Line helps the linebacking corps…thus making a better overall team. A guy that can become a player that needs to be doubled increases the effectiveness of Kelly and the DE (Seymour or Shaughnessy).
Stop the doggone run! Use the later rounds for the other positions
And for goodness sakes…no Taylor Mays or Bruce Campbell
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I think stopping the run should be 3rd on our list of priorities behind improving our passing game and getting to the QB. Listened to Tim and Pat today on Sirius NFL today. Pat thinks that since the Bills are switching to a 3-4, they’re looking at Williams hard. Miami also wants a NT. He cites Parcells great relationship with AD as a reason that a deal could happen sending us a good draft pick to move from 12 to 8 to leapfrog Buffalo and take Williams. I’d love to see that happen. We could probably still get Anthony Davis and pick up a 2nd or 3rd rounder to boot.
March 17th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
To re-establish my constantly held position:
I do NOT say that Grads is the franchise QB or that he is a long-term solution. I do however say that unless Russell does everything necessary to reach his potential, Grads is my choice to start for the next two years while we improve the REST of the team. Within the next two years, I want to be up to 9-7 and be ready to bring in/raise up a franchise QB if JR isn’t willing or able to become one.
March 17th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
SnB,
Hey I never said Bruce was going to lead us to a SuperBowl, just saying that rah-rah shyt means something. Carl Banks is in the HOF and he said it right on TV. Go watch for yourself. Sorry I am taking his word over yours.
Obviously if you fail miserably it won’t work. Did you see Bruce fail miserably? Looked “Hostetler-esque” enough to me to get us to .500 and try to work from there.
If Jamarcus wants to lead, the job is his, unless he fails as well. Both guys are going to play this year, you can bet on that.
March 17th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
God help our team my brothers!
We need linemen (offensive/defensive) like the fruitcakes need a cure for AIDS
LMAO
March 17th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Run defense SHOULD be the #1 priority. The problems with the passing game and offense had more to do with the sheer baffoonery of having Tom Cable call plays. The other problem was the QB was overweight and unprepared and Tom Cable loved Fargas. That’s why the offense struggled last year…oh…and starting TWO rookie receivers and having one of those rookies run 9-routes all day as a decoy to clear the field “whatever the hell that means”
Mario Henderson is a young player that has played well and struggled a little down the stretch. He’s learning and getting better. RT, RG is for 2nd and 3rd rounds.
A stout run defense, combined with our secondary, would give us a legit defense that can keep the score low. DT really should be the pick. ARen’t Raider fans tired of watching their team get ground into dust every week
March 17th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
I agree with post #77
March 17th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Vegas
I wonder if Russell had a drinking problem?
Weight problems
Apathy
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March 17th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
Watching this America’s Game on the 1990 Giants and one thing stood out.
Carl Banks was talking about Hostetler that year, and he said along the lines that everybody in the lockerroom was pulling for the Hoss because he was a rah-rah guy, went into special teams huddles and even ran the scout team sometimes.
For those that say that chemistry stuff is overrated, the Giants won the bowl that year. We all saw Hostetler for years, he wasn’t nothing special.
But he get everyone moving in the right direction and led his team. That’s what a QB is supposed to be born with the innate ability to do.
I just don’t see it in Russell yet. Maybe this year, but otherwise he just has to play lights out to get his teammates respect. Not an easy gig, but that’s what it is.
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I get where you’re coming from, but I don’t believe that’s an “innate ablity”. Most young QBs don’t come out breathing fire and hyping up the team. JR is still young and finding his way. Once he’s consistently making plays and we start having more success, the other stuff will come. I was a big Hoss fan, but remember, he came here as a proven veteran. So did Gannon. You may not see that fire with JR now but it’ll come. Just have to be a little patient.
March 17th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
If Jamarcus wants the job, it is his. But wanting the job doesn’t mean showing up. Every other starting QB in the league HAS to be a rah-rah workaholic (in one way or another), the same demands should be no different on him.
If he does it, it will only make him better and make his teammates jump off a bridge for him. Only than will his talents be maximized.
Isn’t that what we are trying to accomplish here?
Off to fire on tomorrow’s games.
March 17th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Speaking of NFLN, and their classic games. Is it just me or are 90% of the games they show involving the Colts or Patriots? Throw us long suffering Raider fans a bone. The only game they seem to show involving the Raiders is the “Tuck Rule” game. Who needs that scab ripped open? The games I would most like to see, any games involving the Raiders vs the Steelers from the seventies. Those games are just a little before my time. The first Raider game I can clearly remember watching was the ‘77 AFC championship vs. Denver. I have only seen those classic games vs Pitt on NFL Highlights, never in their entirity. I would love to see some of those brutal battles, with the field just packed with hall of famers on both sides.
March 17th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
No, I don’t believe QB’s are born either. They have to be taught to be an NFL QB, like any other job.
The problem is the Raider’s Organization is dysfunctional
March 17th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
If any other GM had a 29-83 record he would be “FIRED”. So wake up AL.
March 17th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
And Bruce Gradkowski has to WIN the job too.
3 games means nothing…
I don’t think anyone is going to be misled because Gradkowski simply became the “Anyone by Russell” guy.
Does he start on a team starting from scratch? I still don’t believe so.
I’ve seen flash in the pan guys like this 100x. I will spare you all from listing all the QBs like Shaun Hill who have eeked out a couple of wins here or there.
March 17th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Good night fellas.
March 17th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
If Jamarcus wants the job, it is his. But wanting the job doesn’t mean showing up. Every other starting QB in the league HAS to be a rah-rah workaholic (in one way or another), the same demands should be no different on him.
If he does it, it will only make him better and make his teammates jump off a bridge for him. Only than will his talents be maximized.
Isn’t that what we are trying to accomplish here?
Off to fire on tomorrow’s games.
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Dude, he can’t just come out screaming and yelling just to scream and yell. That’ll come off as fake. He’s got to be himself. Just because your’e named the starting QB doesnt mean you’re the leader. A lot of other stuff goes into it.
March 17th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Run the Ball and Stop the Run
March 17th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
“TIM BROWN FOR GM”
March 17th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
Man we need more help than just some linemen.
We need a new Coach
…a new GM
…a new direction
…a new stadium
…a new roster make over!
none of which will take place this year.
March 17th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Why did I just know HayesDazed would bail like a little girl once challenged?
Just like Priest.
Just like Kelli.
Just like Oakglenn.
Hmmm…no small coincidence those are some of the weakest of the weak.
March 17th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Of course this assumes that McCoy gets picked before Suh…and Clausen is a top 5 pick…however if McCoy is the one to fall…I would happy also…I think both of these DTs are dominant players…and the only OT that I would take ahead of them is Russell Okung.
March 17th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
D-FOLKS Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
“TIM BROWN FOR GM”
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LOL. Tim Brown retired at the Hyatt, sans Raiders involvement. Timma is donna as a Raida.
March 17th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Rams – Bradford
Lions – Okung
Tampa – Suh
Wash – Davis
KC – Berry
Sea – Claussen
Cleve – Pierre Paul
Oak – Bulaga
March 17th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Brandon Spikes ran a 5.1 forty time?
Ugghhh!
March 17th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Casserly has Davis falling to us at 8.
March 17th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Really excited about this upcoming season. Damn good offseason so far adding an OC, and cutting Warren, Fargas and the others.
Anthony Davis at 8 and Cam Thomas or Lamar Houston in Rd 2 would be a nice start to the draft, IMO!
March 17th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
JHill,
In all seriousness how does cutting Fargas and Warren and thus making each position a bit weaker equate to a damn good offseason? I mean Fargas and Warren arent headed to Canton anytime soon but both added depth to their positions. This team has not improved in any aspect of the game and adding Jackson is only going to fuel speculation of Cable being fired come week 4 and the team is 1-3 or 0-4.
March 17th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Not to mention they intend on going into the season with Jamarcus Russell and Bruce Gradkowski battling for the STARTING job. There may not be worse QB situation in the league save for maybe STL.
March 17th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Ron,
Cuttin Warren and Fargas means that we are looking for better players at the position, IMO. I expect us to draft a DT and RB somewhere in the draft.
Add in the OC, and I think that McFadden and Bush get used more like they were in game 1.
Entitled to your position on the QB situation. Not nearly as bad as you make it out to be.
March 17th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
I can see your arguments on the first 2 points but how in the hell can you say that about the QBs? You dont win in this league without at least a good QB and the Raiders dont even have an average one.
March 17th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Couple of thoughts:
Wimbley will play DE for us. Not sure in what capacity.
A Davis is falling in the draft due to his no show at his pro day.
No way Suh falls to us but if he did it would take us less than 5 seconds to get our pick up to the podium.
Would love to get Trent Williams at #8 all things considered but not sure how Cable views Barnes.
Don’t see DT @ 8 b/c why take 3rd best player at any position when your at 8. Understand the logic but why not take best player at another position.
If not OT at #8, hope for a trade back and maybe get SPOON?
March 17th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Oh yeah, Jamison is GRrrrrreat!
March 17th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
I expect to see us add an OT and start Barnes at OG over Carlisle. Henderson-Gallery-Satele-Barnes-Davis/Bulaga is a helluva upgrade to what we had last year, IMO.
That Oline will be utilized by the OC to feature a running game. 2 TEs and play action.
The draft will also produce a young DT to replace Warren. Add that to they youngsters Shaugnessy, Richardson, and Bryant and I think we are certainly headed in the right direction.
March 17th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
I think Russell and Gradkowski are average at minimum. The type of guys who can make some throws and move the ball, not guys who can go back and throw it 30 times a game.
An improved Oline and better play calling is going to make the QB position look a lot better this year. I don’t expect the OC to ask the QB to do to much.
I didn’t say we are winning the SB. But the weak arss AFC West and NFC West games are there for the taking.
March 17th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
jhill Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
I expect to see us add an OT and start Barnes at OG over Carlisle. Henderson-Gallery-Satele-Barnes-Davis/Bulaga is a helluva upgrade to what we had last year, IMO.
That Oline will be utilized by the OC to feature a running game. 2 TEs and play action.
The draft will also produce a young DT to replace Warren. Add that to they youngsters Shaugnessy, Richardson, and Bryant and I think we are certainly headed in the right direction.
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I like this a lot. Think we should pick up a big TE? This draft seems to have some good ones. Or are you sold on Myers and Stewart?
March 17th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Jhill,
That offense you describe needs a few things to be succesful… QB, RB, WR, OL. No matter how you want to spin it the Raiders are not even average at ANY of those spots. All 4 of those positions rank at or near the bottom of the NFL. How then, as a rational person could you argue otherwise?
March 17th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
walker is a better guard than barnes
March 17th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Agree with you Jhill. Think this season is promising. I’m normally a pessimist (sp?) but when it comes to the Raiders I’m forever an optimist.
March 17th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Logic be damned!
March 17th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Average AT MINIMUM?!!! How in the hell could you possibly say that? Jamarcus Russell was the worst QB in the league last year and Gradkowski is a journeyman. WTF?
March 17th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
for what is being asked of stewart and Myers they are fine…i’d look at fb and cb after the lines
March 17th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
How then, as a rational person could you argue otherwise?
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LOL, here we go …
You are entitled to your opinion. I think we have talent at the WR and RB positions. I happen to like DMac and Bush together. I like Chaz, Murphy, DHB, and Nick Miller. I think if we add Anthony Davis or Bulaga at 8, and move Barnes to RG, then I like our Oline.
QB? I think with the first 3 things addressed in WR, RB, and OL the QB position will look much better.
I know, I know … You disagree.
All good.
March 17th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
I think Meyers looked good in spurts last year. Wouldn’t use a pick on a TE this year. FB in rd 3 or 4 would bother me though.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
He’s got to be himself. Just because your’e named the starting QB doesnt mean you’re the leader.
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Dude, when you are named the starting QB you are ABSOLUTELY the leader. That is part of the job.
Name me a good team where the QB isn’t a leader?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
You like those guys cuz you cant take off your “Raider” colored glasses. Those units are all at the bottom of the NFL and its not debateable.
Oh yeah…Did you REALLY name Nick Miller as a WR you like?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Vegas,
Update on the guy ridin shotgun?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
The QB has to be THE leader on the team. Whatever form that may take. I hope that Jruss learns he’s got to lead by example. That may take a lot but I think we can all agree (maybe) that we all hope that he is finaly getting IT.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
TE this year. FB in rd 3 or 4 would bother me though.
115.vegas raider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
He’s got to be himself. Just because your’e named the starting QB doesnt mean you’re the leader.
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Dude, when you are named the starting QB you are ABSOLUTELY the leader. That is part of the job.
Name me a good team where the QB isn’t a leader?
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The Baltimore Ravens? How about the Jets?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
jhill we better look at fb cuz that is what weve missed since 07. i hope oneal can get back to form but we need to bring in some quality guys there regardless of his health.as for suh not falling dont sleep on that. nobody thought crabs would fall last year and there are a number of other examples. i doubt it but i wouldnt be surprised. i am also glad spikes ran so slow now i hope he does fall into the 3rd cuz that dude is gonna have such a huge chip on his shoulder. he would fit here so good and we better not pass on him if he became available.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
I do like those guys because they are Raiders.
But I know Derrick Anderson, Brady Quinn, Jake Delhomme, Shaun Hill were all worse than our QBs. I also know how bad Matt Cassell was, and Marc Bulger. How many picks did Sanchez throw last year? Jay Cutler?
There are about 4 or 5 teams out there with the QB situation under control. Everyone else is right about the same.
IMO!
March 17th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 11:44 am
Jhill,
So just got word, lol, that the dude in the ride is definately NOT the brother, and he has never seen that guy before, so not part of the normal “crew”.
That’s what I get for assuming.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
So Joe Flacco and Sanchez arent leaders…. Okayyyyyyy
March 17th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
djohnnyg Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 11:23 am
“Do you really wanna root for a guy that has a diamond encrusted figuring of himself hanging from his neck?”
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No, but I do like the image of Russell hanging.
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March 17th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
The QB has to be THE leader on the team.
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The QB needs to hand the ball off, and hit the open man. Sorry, but everything else falls into place, IMO, if those 2 things are done pretty well.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Do you really think that Flacco & Sanchez aren’t leaders on their team?
Even Ray Lewis said that Flacco came in from the beginning and won over the locker room. Sanchez came in as a rookie and did the same. They have room to grow but are definately leaders on their teams. Find another example.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
I agree the Jruss has been deemed the biggest bust in by the media and some fans, but for plp here to say that he doesnt deserve a chance to start is ridiculous. before his draft the scouts said he could mk every throw in the nfl, and had the TOOLS to do well. The guy is still a gifted athlete, he jus doenst have his head right( ex:the beanies, earings, jewlery, cars, ects) but and this is a big BUt, if he plays to his full and complete potential, he would sh1t on everyone of our qbs( even grads, who im a fan of)….so have a open competition, and let the best player play…end of story
March 17th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
The Baltimore Ravens? How about the Jets?
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I’ll give you the Ravens, their leader is a world-class LB.
The Jets went farther with Sanchez than they did with Favre, who pissed guys off and they fell apart at the end of the last year. This Jets team rallied at the end of the year, and Sanchez played very well and is definately a fiery, leader, born to be QB guy. Sanchez stood up and assumed role of leader after some terrible games and faced the NY media. Jamarcus couldn’t even face Jerry and his gang of pattycake journalists.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Jhill,
With all do respect….you are dillusional. How many years is this now that your going into the season with visions of grandeur?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Every Raider season is promising in March.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
RaiderRon Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
So Joe Flacco and Sanchez arent leaders…. Okayyyyyyy
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They aren’t THE leaders of their team. Not even close!
March 17th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
RaiderRon Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
So Joe Flacco and Sanchez arent leaders…. Okayyyyyyy
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Okay Ron, I’ll bite. Who leads the Ravens, Flacco or Ray Lewis?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
Russell’s job is whatever Al Davis and Russell agree Russell’s job is. The rest is what you guys make up your vivid imaginations and perhaps your idealism as well. As far as we know, Russell’s “job”, per his contract with the Oakland Raiders, is to show up. He doesn’t have to be a leader. As far as I know, he doesn’t even have to perform well. My guess is that Al Davis is reluctant to get rid of Russell because if he does Kiffin gets the final laugh in their squabble. “He’s a great playahhh, get ovaaah it”. If that’s the case, Russell has leverage on Al Davis. You may not agree with it, but from a business standpoint, it’s something Russell has every right to do. Russell and his agent probably knew back in ‘07 that Russell was only drafted to show up Kiffin. Agents hear EVERYTHING. It’s their job. So they tool advantage of Al’s eagerness to show Kiffin up and held his balls to the fire.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
these nfln guys are disgusting. so on the state of the raiders they have us taking campbell just on his 40 time. then dukes says we have a fast team with no football players. these are the socalled experts on tv. damn im doin the wrong job cuz i can say this type of ignant sh!t. no mention of trevor scott matt shawny branch or even zmiller. no football guys just a track team, unfreakin believable.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Sanchez is definately a leader offensively, and has been since day 1 he got drafted.
If he is NOT the leader, he tried his ass off to be the leader, always facing the media, always supporting guys, and we heard nothing but great things about him from teammates.
Sanchez is going to emerge as one of the biggest leaders in the game the next 10 years, IMO. And I hate USC guys.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Who said THE leaders? The dude said A leader.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
What I find hilarious is that it takes Al’s insistence on an underachieving black quarterback to get so many of the loyalists to finally turn on him. Al’s been ruining teams like this for years and they stood by his side. “Ja Bling” the “monkey” is evidently where they draw the line. The most diverse fan base in football? I doubt it anymore. And even if so, only on paper
March 17th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
Jhill,
With all do respect….you are dillusional.
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LOL!
Could you be a bit more specific?
And as far as previous seasons I thought we’d win 8 games last year with how weak the division was. Other than that pretty much knew we were a non playoff team.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Vegas, does Al Davis even want a leader?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Armond,
NFL Net arent dillusional Raider fans who overrate the players on the team so why would they mention those guys? 99% of their audience would be like ” Who?”
March 17th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Vegas, does Al Davis even want a leader?
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Debatable sadly
March 17th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
How is the AFC West “weak”? SD won like 12 in a row going into the playoffs and Denver was playing for a berth right up to the bitter end.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Well, it’s just that I’ve never seen him build a team that way. We had a lot of leaders on the Super Bowl team. Gannon, Rice, Brown, Rod Woodson, Romo…but it seems Al is not interested in those types of players anymore.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Sanchez is definately a leader offensively, and has been since day 1 he got drafted.
If he is NOT the leader, he tried his ass off to be the leader, always facing the media, always supporting guys, and we heard nothing but great things about him from teammates.
Sanchez is going to emerge as one of the biggest leaders in the game the next 10 years, IMO. And I hate USC guys.
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Dude, maybe this is a semantics thing. I agree that Sanchez acts the part, but he’s not the leader of that offense. In fact, there was serious talk of benching that guy after Clemens led them to a victory about halfway through the season. To be THE leader of the offense you have to play well. The Jets backed into the playoffs in spite of Sanchez’s 20 picks because they have a veteran OL full of leaders, damn good RBs, including Thomas Jones is was a leader, and a great defense full of leaders. Again, let’s get this supporting cast improved before we start going on about how JR isn’t a leader. If we win games, everyone will start calling him a leader.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
Well Denver traded their starting QB and fired Shannyrat, and KC was awful. I thought we matched up well against SD, and I was right. Should have beat them twice.
And we were talking about projections BEFORE the season started, right?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
I would say that Gannon, Romo and Rod especially were impactful leaders.
Brown was not a leader, and Rice was kind of a diva as well. Tough for WR’s to be real leaders.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
I think it’s pretty clear that the Jets are led by their defense and running game, and the Ravens are led by their defense alone.
I think it is semantics here. Sure those guys have leadership qualities, but they are not THE leaders of the team.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
everyone will start calling him a leader.
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True to an extent.
Really win some games, like 9 or 10 a year yes. You can be a show-me Sunday type of guy, and guys will have that confidence that will you pull it out for them.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
some of you guys are the reason raider fans get such a bad rap. are you honestly taking smack to one another via blog? come on fellas thats sad, this should be about boosting each others pride ahaha.
just a thought for yeh to ponder.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
Just know that the Jets are going to be good for years, and Sanchez will be their the whole time, and O-lineman are going to rotate in and out for the next 10 years.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
I would say that Gannon, Romo and Rod especially were impactful leaders.
Brown was not a leader, and Rice was kind of a diva as well. Tough for WR’s to be real leaders.
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Look how long the guys you mentioned played? We’ve got so much youth on offense, it’s sick. I was worried as hell about that last year going into the season, and that was before Chaz got hurt. Never in a million years did I think we’d start two rookies at WR! Last season was about paying dues. Looking forward to seeing our offense click this year.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Anyone interested in Vasher for depth?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Midwest Fan Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Anyone interested in Vasher for depth?
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No way. He sucks.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
vasher > routt, holland, maybe even c. johnson
March 17th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
raiders22 Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
vasher > routt, holland, maybe even c. johnson
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Dude, you’ve got to be kidding. The guy was getting burnt outside in a Cover 2 defense. What makes you think he can play man inside for us? Routt and CJ are both twice the player Vasher is. And I’m a Texas fan.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
routt doesnt get burnt? how about johnson? at least vasher has a past of being good lol. all they have is sucking their entire careers
March 17th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
Vegas, it’s amazing that while you complain about Russell’s ability to lead in one breath, you question the leadership of Tim Brown and Jerry Rice in the other. Beggars can’t be choosers. For whatever lack of leadership skills Jerry and Tim had in your view, are you going to tell me that you wouldn’t trade Russell’s willingness to lead over either of theirs? I’ve read several times that Tim Brown, during his entire tenure as a Raiders, insisted on the team hanging out away from the field. That may not have anything to do with on field leadership, but keeping a team together off the field brings a family approach to the workplace. And as far as Jerry Rice goes, didn’t he go at it once with Anthony Dorsett because Dorsett didn’t like his leadership? Of course with the Raiders, that’s what you get. Scholarship players working as an obstacle to the leaders we bring in. You don’t like Russell’s leadership, you wouldn’t want Brown or Rice’s, either. Those lethargic nihilists. You come off as a whiner who will never be satisfied, Vegas.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
Sorry, everyone… I was away on a drug deal and missed a couple of hours of posts.
I agree with post 77 except for one major point: a “9″ route is NOT what DHB ran all the time. He ran a FIVE… that’s a GO route. Clearly, you never played football as a receiver or DB and never learned a route tree… and are just pretending to know what the f-u-c-k you’re talking about. There is NO tree in ANY program that calls a fly a “9.” Anything before 5 (except 0, a spot pass) is toward the middle of the field, 5 itself is a fly (or go), and anything after 5 is toward the sideline.
Please refrain from using terminology with which you are not intimately familiar. Thank you.
I still like you, bro… I just hate seeing B.S. comments and will call out someone trying to state something that they don’t know for certain.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
raiders22 Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
routt doesnt get burnt? how about johnson? at least vasher has a past of being good lol. all they have is sucking their entire careers
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I see. So we should sign the guy to replace one our guys because he has a “past of being good”. Makes a ton of sense. Al should hire you as a GM. LOL.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
Brooks’ mock: Suh to Raiders at No. 8 = Pipe dream
No way does Suh drop that far. He could still be the No. 1 pick in this thing. I wouldn’t be opposed to the Raiders trading up to get Suh at No. 2 — especially if it didn’t cost a bunch of picks. Wonder if something like our 1st, Capt. Kirk and one of our 5ths would get it done. We’d still have a pick in every round but the 6th I believe (In addition to the trade for Wembley).
March 17th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
Steve
It WAS the 9 route, according to media reports locally. Unless you’re privy to the playbook?
March 17th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
you know what big guy did i say he was good or that we should sign him? maybe you shoul;d re-read my post. all i said is hes better than our pi gs
March 17th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
pi gs= pieces of garbage….got out of range of my wireless keyboard
March 17th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Chris Johnson has done a great job as a No. 2 CB the last two seasons. Gets tested a ton with Nnamdi on the other side. Branch — though he was very good overall — and Routt were each responsible for giving up more big completions than CJ. CJ was among the league leaders in passes defensed and the guy can hit for a CB. Sure he gave up a few but other than Nnamdi and Revis there really aren’t any CBs in the NFL who don’t give up several completions per game. Between the Raiders’ scheme and having Nnamdi on the other side CJ probably has the toughest job of just about any CB in the league — and he still holds his guy to fewer catches/yards than the vast majority of CBs in the league.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
NY all good points, but i respectfully disagree. he was very gd when he took over for meangelo, but last year he was pretty suspect
March 17th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
I just think that every time an opponent’s WR makes a big play or gets wide open people assume CJ was at fault because you know it’s not Nnamdi getting burned. But Routt and Branch and others are covering WRs in 3/4 WR sets which teams run all the time. Those guys gave up as much and possibly more yardage each despite the fact that CJ is constantly in man coverage and has to guard the opponent’s No. 1 WR probably more frequently than Nnamdi.
He gave up some plays, I’ll grant that. But nothing like MeAngelo. Every corner is going to get beat a couple of times a game (that’s how QBs complete about 20 passes per game). But I’d bet CJ gave up less than the league average despite being challenged far more.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Chris,
I say he did a good job, but I will not call his play great. He is a good NFL CB, we can always upgrade, but we have more important needs. IMO like OL, DL, FB and LB.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Spikes ran a 5.1 40!!
O Mock Draft 11.0:
1- trade up for DT Suh
2- HB J Best
3- ILB Spikes
4- DE Austen Lane
5- OT Sam Young
5- CB Stoudamire or Walter Thurmond
7- FB
March 17th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Lot of talk in here about trading up to draft Suh. My question is, who or what are we going to trade to get that pick? What would it take? Aside from Nnamdi, who else on this team has any real trade value for a high first rounder? Is that why Davis was so quick to offer Routt the kind of tender that he did?
March 17th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
The Lions may draft OT, so we may trade with TB. TH & Kirk would be great for that scheme.IMHO I say trade them and our 1st, and if we need to we should trade huff too. We need to make this trade happen. Suh is a beast. He is an Athlete and a Football player!
March 17th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
Kell, while I respectfully acquiesce to your statement that local media call it a “9″ route… I must adhere to my previous statement that NO playbook in the world calls a fly or go route a “9.” Just because the media said it, that doesn’t make it true.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Routes are mapped out on a “passing tree” or “route tree.”
I’d draw it out here, but I suck at aasci art. A go route is ALWAYS five and a “nine” is obviously the last number between 0 and 9. A zero is a spot pass. A 9 is a quick out. All numbers in between are the routes going from middle of the field outward, with 5 being the median. The median of all the routes is a fly. I’ve played on every level between pee-wee and semi-pro. Unless the NFL decided to change everything that a WR has ever known (I’ve seen lots of specials that talk about NFL playbooks, so I KNOW that they don’t), then a 9 canNOT be a go. The local media is wrong.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
Anybody that says Sanchez played well last year is either nuts or blind. Sanchez was horrible he just happened to be on a god team. Great Oline great running game. And he still threw 20 int’s that’s a ton when you really run first and second and pass third. Delhomme threw the most int’s in the NFL with Stafford and Cassell not too far behind. good team. Came to KC and wreaked. Brady Quinn was so bad he couldn’t keep the job from Anderson who was complete garbage.
But Russell is always referred to as the worse QB in the league which is a lie. Derek Anderson was terrible. Grads couldn’t even beat him out. Both Grads and Frye got ran out of Cleveland. On the same bus.
So we’ll see in the coming weeks who has the goods.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
The route is consistent throughout football at all levels. You can also run combo routes or double move or option routes.
Now I’ve always heard a 9 route as a verticle sideline route to the endzone. A 7 route as a deep in route or a dig route or it may be a deep post pattern I forget which one. All these routes have odd #’s attached to them. The terminology changes with every scheme but the route tree is always the same. Schemes just emphasize certain aspects of the route tree more than others.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
Ok tj,
Russell wasnt the worst Qb in the NFL he was #31, you happy ?
Tool bag
March 17th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
JaMeatball was actually ranked around 35 out of 32 teams but tj since your a sensitive little cry baby with your head up your a$$ I’m gonna bump the fat lazy loser to #31 for you!
We cool now meathead ?
March 17th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
Raider O
Our 2nd 3rd is gone for Wimbley and with a 40 time in the 5’s Spikes wont go before the 5th rnd he is effectively a 2 down player. No team would expect him to play on passing downs. And passing teams will victimize him like crazy. You cannot play him on passing downs.
Everybody says only the Raiders are size speed enthusiast well watch Spikes pay dearly for his 40 time. All the GM’s will get off him as though he has the plague. THEY ALL LOVE SPEED………………period
March 17th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
Priest,
If Al still has ANY sense left, he’ll take Spike at #40 if he’s still there. Running a bad 40 on ONE DAY doesn’t negate a career of great play at MLB in a 4-3 scheme. I want our #8 to be OL or DL and all other top four picks to be OL/DL… but if Spikes is there in Round 2, we HAVE TO take him unless we trade for a competent MLB. If we didn’t have such need in the trenches, I MIGHT be okay with McClain at #8… but we can’t afford to do it, plus he’s a 3-4 guy. Spikes in the second is our best shot at upgrading MLB… and I’m okay with doing it… but only with #40 or later.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
i don’t agree, spikes will drop considerably. getting him at in the 5th is better than the 2nd.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
I don’t think that a 40 time on ONE DAY will drop him to the 5th. Not ALL General Managers and personnel men think like Al, ya know.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
priest i disagree about spikes being a 2 down lb and lasting to the 5th rnd. if he does last that long i will dance for damn joy. he is way too good a football player to drop that far. i dont think his pass coverage skills are bad from all of the games i saw him play.but u are right about all teams looking at 40 times. only idiots think the raiders look at that.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
Sanchez was horrible….ha ha ha ha ha!!!
March 17th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
Priest,
To expand on what I said about lasting til the 5th… I will bet you TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS… RIGHT NOW that Spikes is gone before the fifth round of this year’s draft. Agree to it and I will fly to SFO and meet you wherever you want and sign the agreement and have it notarized.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
priesttj Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
i don’t agree, spikes will drop considerably. getting him at in the 5th is better than the 2nd.
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A 5.1 forty at your pro day??? People usually improve their times there. Not lookin good for Spikes. i wouldn’t think many would want to invest a high draft choice in a two-down LB. I saw his forty on NFL Network and he looked slow. It’s entirely possible he’ll drop to the 5th. Do you remember what Frantz Joseph ran?
March 17th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
BHP,
He will drop for running a 5.1, but I don’t think he will drop That much. I say 3rd Max. IMHO
1- Suh or OT
2- HB J Best or DT Lamarr Houston
3- ILB Spikes or WR KR J Ford
4- DE Austen Lane
5- OL Sam Young or Ciron Black
5- CB Stoutamire or Walter Thurmond
7- FB
Period. lol
March 17th, 2010 at 11:50 pm
Debo,
Are you out of your head? Having a bad straight-line run on ONE day does NOT negate a career of great play at MLB. The game film means far more to most GMs than a 40 on a pro day/combine day. The most notable exception is Al, but in general, the 40 is just measurables masturbation. There are 32 teams who pick several times before the fifth round… Spikes will be gone before the 5th.
I extend the same bet to you and anyone else that I did to Priest. I will fly to SFO and meet you in the Bay Area to sign the wager agreement and have it notarized. I’ll even put the money in escrow (along with YOUR share of the bet) until the winner is determined. Are you up for it?
March 17th, 2010 at 11:50 pm
stevie,
are you some kind of damn fool with an obsession po prove you know more football than i do. this is football man a game and i’m giving an opinion based on my experience. i wouldn’t expose $10,000 for this crap with a gun to head. it aint that serious. you’re sick dude!!
imo this dramatically effects his draft status if i’ve ever seen anything that will this will. a bad 40 time is worse than a felony charge…….trust me. i’ve seen it.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
Priest,
So you’re saying that you are full of crap, right? You’ll say that he’ll drop to the 5th round… until I ask you to back it up with some cash on a wager… and then it’s just crazy, right?
I’m not saying that I know more football than you do (at least that’s not what I was saying in THAT post)… I was just saying that there is no way that 32 teams will take a bad 40 time as seriously as Al does. The game film speaks VOLUMES. I will bet you 10K that Spikes is gone before the 5th and I will bet you 5K that he’s gone before the 4th and 3K that he’s gone before the 3rd. I can fly out to SFO on Monday. Want to make the wager?
March 17th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
Steve,
I agree with Priest here. Not serious enough to me to make a wager. And I could be wrong. For all I know, some team will draft him in the 1st round. But let’s not understate the importance of speed at that position. After all, teams take the times don’t they?
March 17th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
debo,
Franz’ 40 time dropped him out of the draft and on a practice squad. I’ve seen great player sfrm USC and other schols run bad 40’s and fall like rock. Every GM pays close attention to the 40 time and that’s why NFLN focus’s on it so much. They know damn well what that 40 means even to LINEMAN!!
I was trying to sell a player to the Raiders named Eric Foster problem is he ran a bad 40 in 5.2 range and this guy was a player. He was drafted by Indy in the 7th rnd and he plays a lot. I thought he should’ve been a our MLB he reminded me of Matt Millen. He should’ve been drafted in the 3rd 4th worse and no one would touch because of his 440 time.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:00 am
Debo,
The point that I’M making is that it’s his speed on ONE DAY. Many factors affect your speed on ONE DAY. There are lots of fast guys who had slow days. I don’t know how far you went as a player, but I know that Priest claims to be an insider, so he should be familiar with the term “football speed.”
That is more important than a 40 to nearly EVERY coach, scout, and personnel man. The notable exception is Al. Spikes could have run a 7 second 40 and still be gone before the end of round 3 based on his game tapes. I am willing to bet plenty of cash on it. Does the “expert” named Priesttj feel the same?
March 18th, 2010 at 12:03 am
SteveAlford21 Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:00 am
Debo,
The point that I’M making is that it’s his speed on ONE DAY. Many factors affect your speed on ONE DAY. There are lots of fast guys who had slow days. I don’t know how far you went as a player, but I know that Priest claims to be an insider, so he should be familiar with the term “football speed.”
That is more important than a 40 to nearly EVERY coach, scout, and personnel man. The notable exception is Al. Spikes could have run a 7 second 40 and still be gone before the end of round 3 based on his game tapes. I am willing to bet plenty of cash on it. Does the “expert” named Priesttj feel the same?
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Tell me this Steve. Why do teams take 40 times? Why not just look at game film and make a decision?
March 18th, 2010 at 12:04 am
Just to clarify, I was always a guy who had “football speed,” so that’s why I’m intimately familiar with it.
I was 5′10, 185lbs. I ran a 4.85 WITHOUT pads, but I ran a 4.85 WITH pads, as well. Most guys don’t maintain speed in full pads and most guys don’t run as well laterally or changing direction as they do straight line. If the 40 was as important as Al thinks, then all Olympic sprinters would be making 40mil in signing bonuses for NFL teams.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:09 am
Debo,
The 40 time is just a vague indicator of speed for straight-line running and is good in terms of Running/Receiving players on offense and Coverage/Pursuit players on defense. The value of knowing that is good, but in order for it to have any TRUE value, it must be taken on multiple occasions.
ONE SINGLE bad 40 doesn’t usually change a player’s value too much, because there are many reasons to have a bad day. ONE GREAT 40 will change a player’s value significantly because there aren’t many variables that will make you FASTER than you already are.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:11 am
All teams take 40 times as seriously as Al Davis does or else they wouldn’t ask 300lbs.men to run it. Get a freakin clue. They all time these guy’s in various drills for a reason. Al Davis isn’t the only one ding it. Sometimes he’s not even there on prodays and their getting timed with zero Raider personnel present. Either you’re ignorant or blatant evidence means nothing to you. Thye’ve been doing this for over 40 years for a reason.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:13 am
Priest,
That’s what I thought. There was talk about the guy before the draft and he had great game tape, then he just seemed to disappear. The guy didn’t make it with us or anyone else. If he’d at least come in at 4.9. But 5.1? Draft day could be a rough day for him.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:14 am
Gawd man! don’t you get it they knew he didn’t run a good 40 they just wanted affirmation. They were hoping he would do better, he couldn’t. He is a mid to late rnd pick by virtue of his 40 time ………….period
March 18th, 2010 at 12:16 am
And yes, I know that 4.85 isn’t GREAT, but I was a smart CB and “monster” LB and was great at running good routes and coming back to the QB when I was put in as a 3rd WR, so my lack of “blazing” speed was acceptable.
Plus, I ran 4.85-4.87 for ten straight 40s with no break. The 4.4 guys would be over 5.0 by the end of that same drill. I really wanted to try for the next level, but the knee was too damaged to risk it. Either that or I was too big of a p-u-s-s-y to chase my pipe-dream.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:16 am
Debo, you’re right, they knew all along they were hoping he’d do better but he can’t run……………period
March 18th, 2010 at 12:18 am
Priest,
I just explained why they measure the 40. I didn’t say that Al is the only one who cares about it, I said that he places more value on it than anyone else. Again, stop re-wording what I say so that you can “beat” the fake argument that you made up and address what I actually said.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:18 am
Suh is not going to be there at #8.
We will pick Campbell.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:19 am
SteveAlford21 Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:09 am
Debo,
The 40 time is just a vague indicator of speed for straight-line running and is good in terms of Running/Receiving players on offense and Coverage/Pursuit players on defense. The value of knowing that is good, but in order for it to have any TRUE value, it must be taken on multiple occasions.
ONE SINGLE bad 40 doesn’t usually change a player’s value too much, because there are many reasons to have a bad day. ONE GREAT 40 will change a player’s value significantly because there aren’t many variables that will make you FASTER than you already are.
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Dude, teams have been worried about his speed leading up to the combine. And he didn’t run there. His pro day was a big deal. He knew that. And the best he could muster up is a 5.1???? All that did was realize teams’ greatest fears. It’s gonna cost him on draft day. Wouldn’t at all be surprised if he dropped to the 5th.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:21 am
Priest,
Also, if you’re so certain that the 40 time of Spikes is such a big deal that it drops him to the 5th or lower, then just agree to my wager and I’ll purchase a ticket right now and fly to SFO on Monday. You can even get YOUR lawyer to draw up the contract for the wager if you want. I’ll bet you 10K that he’s gone before the 5th, 5K that he’s gone before the 4th, and 3K that he’s gone before the 3rd. That’s a pretty plain and simple wager. Want to take it?
March 18th, 2010 at 12:25 am
Debo,
Spikes makes plays. IF he truly isn’t sub-5.0 in the 40 (meaning that it wasn’t just a bad day), then that means that he is amazingly intelligent at his position, is almost always in the right place to make a play, AND has great football speed. There are plenty of personnel men who don’t care what your 40 time was, as long as you have football speed. He will be gone before the 3rd… and I’m willing to bet four figures on that.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:27 am
Obviously you’re using too much product, I don’t bet as a rule and if i did it wouldn’t be for aomthing so insignificant as this. That I have zero control over. Find another idiot who’s stupid emough to bet there are no fools out there that will take this guy in the 1st rnd.
I’m certain he will drop but it doesn’t mean I’m will to bet money on it idiot. It doesn’t mean that much to me.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:30 am
If that were true guy’s with bad 40’s would last until late in the draft every year would they.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:30 am
Priest,
So you’re saying that overlooking a “measurable” makes someone an idiot? I guess that means that every Hall of Famer taken after the 1st round because of a bad 40 was a fluke, right?
March 18th, 2010 at 12:33 am
I’ve been using too much product? I only use hair glue when I have the Mohawk, otherwise it’s a high fade with the bangs our a bit… and there’s no need for any “products” to manage that.
Perhaps you’ve been using too much relaxer, TJ… or maybe your cornrows are too tight?
March 18th, 2010 at 12:33 am
I’m saying you’re an idiot thinking I’m willing to bet a damn dime on any of this crap.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:36 am
Alright Steve,
See ya at SFO at 3:00 on Monday.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:37 am
TJ…
I never asked you to bet a dime. I asked you to bet TEN dimes.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:37 am
Boy you one racist sucka for sure, but hey you are what you are. A product of your environment.
Adios Bigot!!
March 18th, 2010 at 12:38 am
Priest,
Where do you think Wimbley fits? Can he play linebacker? Do you like him at DE?
March 18th, 2010 at 12:40 am
Debo,
Have your lawyer draw up the contract as I stipulated, email me a copy at mythological_speed@yahoo.com (throwaway email in case someone wants to start spamming), and schedule a notary in his office for Monday evening. As soon as your lawyer does that and contacts me to verify that I am willing, I’ll buy the ticket. I won’t fly out on the “okay, I’ll meet you then” guarantee. Make it legal by Friday and I’ll be there Monday.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:42 am
TJ,
How am I the racist when YOU are the one who said that I used too much product? I only followed along with what YOU said.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:43 am
Unless you’re claiming that it’s racist to say that African-Americans use relaxer and get cornrows. Is that what you’re saying? Is it racist to say that black people use relaxer?
March 18th, 2010 at 12:45 am
TJ,
I guess that Chris Rock is one seriously racist MO-FO then! Go rent his new movie “Good Hair” if you don’t believe me… he talks all about how black people use relaxer and get cornrows (even the WOMEN do it so they can get weaves!). Yup, saying that blacks use relaxer and get cornrows sure does make me racist, TJ. Good lord, you’re a total and complete F-U-C-K-I-N-G idiot.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:47 am
# Richochet Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
· Oakglenn Says:
April 4th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Will the Raiders take Heyward-Bey with the overall #7??? No. The reason: He does not have a passion for the game that a guy you are going to sink 10’s of millions of dollars should. If the Raiders were an NBA team, yeah, you might think about it.
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You ever get tired of being wrong, Seymour?
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Actually, based on everything that has transpired to this point, Oakglenn was right, and you come off as a moron. But thanks for the compliment wack-o
March 18th, 2010 at 12:49 am
Seymour,
How the hell are you this morning (3:48am here in Va)?
March 18th, 2010 at 12:51 am
Seymour,
Also, is it racist to say that black people use relaxer and get cornrows? I’m betting that any semi-intelligent person would say NO. Considering that it’s verifiable through data on product sales by demographic, I’d say that it’s downright scientific to say it… and in no way racially biased.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:52 am
Seymour Bush Says:
March 16th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 16th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
Richochet Says:
March 16th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Richochet Says:
March 16th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Richochet Says:
March 16th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
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More importantly, Kelli…who was business today?
I stop in early..you’re on here.
I leave..come back hours later, you’re STILL on here..
Leave again..and stop in briefly now..and YOU’RE STILL ON HERE.
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Wack-o, you STILL have not explained how you can be here all day and all nite posting as a troll, when you claim you “own” a company. No one else who “owns” a company can do that. Are you a liar? Yes, you are.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:54 am
SEYMOUR! DAMN IT, I’M TRYING TO ENGAGE YOU IN CONVERSATION! STOP FLAMING AND TALK!
How are things? What do you think of our new LB signing? I think he’ll be put at DE so we can shift Seymour inside… what’s your opinion?
March 18th, 2010 at 12:55 am
Steve to answer your questions, I am doing wonderfully. If I said “blacks get cornrows”, I don’t know if catergorically, that would make me a racist. Probably not.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:56 am
Actually Steve, I have posted my opinion a few times. I have said that Wimbley will play OLB, and they will line him up on Seymour’s side so they can’t double him. Smart actually.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:57 am
Seymour…
Am I the only one who thinks that TJ is a retarded moron who calls people a racist when he’s losing an argument so that he can get the appearance of a “win” without actually saying anything of value?
March 18th, 2010 at 12:59 am
SteveAlford, I am going to post something here, that I am sure I am going to regret, but it is honest and from the heart. Make sure you dry out from time to time. Seriously.
March 18th, 2010 at 1:01 am
Glad to hear that you’re doing well, Seymour. That’s a very interesting take on how they’ll use Wimbley. I hope that maybe we can switch up schemes a bit and use BOTH your idea AND mine. Wouldn’t that be a terrific bit of strategy by Marshall?
March 18th, 2010 at 1:03 am
I happen to agree with priesttj on some points. Not all, but a few. The issue I think that other fans run into with priest tj, is he has the ability to stress patience with certain young players, that I tend to agree with. There are very very few young guys that come into the NFL and DOMINATE. It does happen, but rarely. Posters here think that our guys should come in, start immediately, and begin to dominate, in their third NFL game. Rarely, if ever, does that EVER happen.
March 18th, 2010 at 1:03 am
Seymour, while I appreciate the sentiment, I don’t see how my level of sobriety affects the fact that TJ called me a racist for saying that maybe he used too much relaxer or his cornrows were too tight… AFTER he said that I used too much product. I don’t see how my comment was racist at all, considering that he’s black and those are the only product/hair issues for blacks… and that HE is the one who brought up the issue of “product” affecting comments in the first place. I do thank you for your concern, though… and that isn’t sarcasm.
March 18th, 2010 at 1:04 am
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March 18th, 2010 at 1:01 am
Glad to hear that you’re doing well, Seymour. That’s a very interesting take on how they’ll use Wimbley. I hope that maybe we can switch up schemes a bit and use BOTH your idea AND mine. Wouldn’t that be a terrific bit of strategy by Marshall?
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That’s what they plan to do, and I am sure it is going to be effective. You can’t double EVERYONE!
March 18th, 2010 at 1:07 am
I don’t care about certain flame wars between x and y. I just know that you can do certain things, and you can do them for awhile, with little or no bad implications, if you dry out from time to time. This is solid good personal advice. If you understand what I am saying.
March 18th, 2010 at 1:08 am
Seymour,
I’m not one of the guys to whom you refer. I never called for benching of Nnamdi during those first three years. I never said to release Huff or JR or ANY of our young guys. I said to bench those who made excuses for bad play, didn’t put in the work, showed up late, and were out of shape. I never said to cut JaMarcus, but I was in favor of taking the starting job from him until he started VOLUNTARILY doing what was required of him to become and elite QB.
March 18th, 2010 at 1:09 am
SteveAlford, I appreciate you comments. Anything I can ever do to help, please feel free to call to me. As Raiders, we look after each other. Have to call it a night, as I have been out late the last 7 in a row. Do good.
March 18th, 2010 at 1:11 am
Steve you have made good comments on this blog, and I appreciate them. I appreciate solid, good comments. You are one of those! Please keep posting. I may agree with some of what you think, some maybe not, that doesn’t mean I don’t think you know what you are talking about. Please keep posting!
March 18th, 2010 at 1:14 am
Seymour,
Just as a humorous bit of coincidence, I find it awesome that you use the term “dry out” to describe what I need to do on the first night that I’ve been drinking in quite a while. I HAVE been doing a lot of painpills, but this is the first bit of drinking in a bit… and it’s only because it’s St. Patrick’s Day and I’m of mostly Irish descent… so I bought a couple of fifths of Jameson to celebrate. I had a cookout with friends which ended several hours ago, but I’m still at it. Nevertheless, I assume the sentiment metaphorically applies to the snorty drugs, not just the liquor… and I thank you for your concern. I actually thought about cutting back today and mapped out a plan for weaning myself off the drugs over the next month. I turn 30 on the 26th, so I figure that’s a good time to stop… or at last begin the process of stopping. CHEERS TO SOBRIETY!
March 18th, 2010 at 1:17 am
Seymour, if you seriously want me to call, then send the number to mythological_speed@yahoo.com
That’s the same email address that I told Debo to have his lawyer email the wager agreement for the Spikes bet. I somehow doubt that I’ll receive the aforementioned agreement… but I sincerely HOPE that I do.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:47 am
Been saying it all month.Trade up and get Suh.Who gives a crap if it cost money,we don’t have a first round pick next year.Get it done Mr.Davis.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:55 am
“Conventional wisdom” has little to do with the draft and less to do with a Raiders draft.
March 18th, 2010 at 5:05 am
GM Nation..
Suh would be great.. Don’t hold your breath tho..
March 18th, 2010 at 5:43 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
What’s up 408?
That would be great! But, yes, like you said…I won’t hold my breath!!!
March 18th, 2010 at 5:46 am
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Hey Dumb Beeych
29-83, Al Davis’s record as GM over the last 7 years.
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Who was the only franchise to win a SB in two cities? Only GM to win in Los Angeles?
thats what I thought….yeah, its been a long 7 years, then again..what California team was IN THE SUPER BOWL?
what southern cal team CHOKED AND GAGGED vs. the Patriots and who got snowjobbed vs. the Patriots.
Raider til I die…
March 18th, 2010 at 6:06 am
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March 18th, 2010 at 3:47 am
Been saying it all month.Trade up and get Suh.
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More specifically, make #20 part of the package.
March 18th, 2010 at 6:17 am
make #20 part of the package.
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the way the Raiders have been sniffing around Best & Matthews this offseason makes me wonder if Bush or McFadden won’t be traded on draft day.
My gut says Bush since he’s been on the trade block this offseason & last offseason. teams have shown interest (but who knows what Al Davis’ asking price is?)
March 18th, 2010 at 6:28 am
So now that MR has informed me that I am not human I’m looking to start my own reality show.. Any help from yall would be greatly appreciated..
March 18th, 2010 at 6:29 am
so the Raiders enter the offseason with the same 2 biggest needs from last offseason. OT & DT
Cornell Green & Gerard Warren are gone. great news!
now what?
replace Ellis with Wimbley. lose a 3rd rounder? what about Matt Shaughnessy?
no decent OT’s or DT’s left in free agency. can we draft them?
so far the rookies we’ve expressed interest in are RB’s and more tweener DE/OLB’s … anybody surprised?
March 18th, 2010 at 6:32 am
Yeah and if you believe that we will get Suh, you also believe McFadden will gain 1500 yards this year, farve will be are new QB, Gannon will welcomed to Al Davis’s suite for a beer, the tooth fairy, Easter bunny, and Tiger Woods got laid by each mistress at gun point.
LMAO!!!
March 18th, 2010 at 6:32 am
408: what kind of reality show?
as Lame Kiffin would say “i’m in!”
March 18th, 2010 at 6:35 am
CJ,
that would be hilarious if Tiger Woods got raped at gun point by some fat dude in an easter bunny costume!
DMAC for 1500?
not with Satele, Carlisle & Pears/Barnes starting on the right side of the OL!
March 18th, 2010 at 6:40 am
RRS
well seeing how it all started with my loyalty to Big Al exposing the fact that Im not human I figured It could be about the Raider Nation civil war. non humans Vs the humans.. I dont have it all figured out yet. Any Ideas
March 18th, 2010 at 6:53 am
I figured It could be about the Raider Nation civil war.
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very nice. have a bunch of semi-pro bloggers fighting on TV about Davis, Cable, Russell, McFadden, etc.
they all share a big house
10 pro davis dudes compete in certain challenges against 10 anti davis raider fans. haha
expect lots of foul language & name calling!
March 18th, 2010 at 6:55 am
RRS
yeah and looser have to convert to whiner fans or just go the fugg away from here..
March 18th, 2010 at 7:01 am
LOL!
sounds good.
My take: if you’re going to blame all the bad on Al Davis, you also have to give him credit for all the good
it’s all or nothing. can’t say “Al drafted all the busts, but all the good picks were HC decisions” or “this coach won in spite of Al Davis”
does that make me a loyalist? I don’t think so…
I don’t love or hate the man. just being fair.
March 18th, 2010 at 7:06 am
the Patriots have 3 picks in the 2nd round and have a private workout scheduled for Tim Tebow already …
I don’t think you guys will have to worry about Al Davis grabbing him in Round 3 or 4!
March 18th, 2010 at 7:11 am
what will Shanny do?
-trade up for Bradford
-take Clausen
-take a QB in Round 2 or 3 (McCoy, LeFever, Pike)
-stand pat with Campbell & Grossman
March 18th, 2010 at 7:21 am
Suh looks great but DT’s bust out of the League more than QBs.
Davis doesn’t seem inclined to pay 8th overall money to an interior lineman. Least he hasn’t often.
McCoy would be Davis’s preference me thinks anyway. He’s the penetrator pass rusher guy.
IF Oakland can shore the O line to help Russell and the run game, the D SHOULD be better bye virtue of that.
In theory…
March 18th, 2010 at 7:24 am
IF Oakland can shore the O line to help Russell and the run game, the D SHOULD be better bye virtue of that.
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Agreed. However, I think Dan Williams at #8 would be better value than taking a RT at #8
RT’s can be found in Rounds 2 & 3. good ones. maybe even some guys that fit the zbs
I’d rather have Dan Williams & Ciron Black than Bruce Campbell & Lamarr Houston
March 18th, 2010 at 7:25 am
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March 18th, 2010 at 6:29 am
so the Raiders enter the offseason with the same 2 biggest needs from last offseason. OT & DT
Cornell Green & Gerard Warren are gone. great news!
now what?
replace Ellis with Wimbley. lose a 3rd rounder? what about Matt Shaughnessy?
no decent OT’s or DT’s left in free agency. can we draft them?
so far the rookies we’ve expressed interest in are RB’s and more tweener DE/OLB’s … anybody surprised?
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Davis has shown he’s capable of pulling the trigger on some surprising trades to get what HE feels will help Raider football.
Can’t say alot of people pegged the Seymour trade before hand.
Could be more surprises in store before or during the draft.
Or, he could stand pat and go with the O line he’s got cuz I’m sure Cable’s convinced he can polish some turds even though Barnes and Harris show otherwise.
Fix the O line please.
March 18th, 2010 at 7:27 am
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IF Oakland can shore the O line to help Russell and the run game, the D SHOULD be better bye virtue of that.
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Agreed. However, I think Dan Williams at #8 would be better value than taking a RT at #8
RT’s can be found in Rounds 2 & 3. good ones. maybe even some guys that fit the zbs
I’d rather have Dan Williams & Ciron Black than Bruce Campbell & Lamarr Houston
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Your approaching it from a conventional perspective. Thats not the Davis way.
You think. “Fix the run by getting some run stuffers at DT and MLB.”
Conventional.
He thinks.
Pay a punter 18 trillion and get some speed guys on offense.
See how that works?
Me either…
March 18th, 2010 at 7:28 am
he could stand pat and go with the O line he’s got cuz I’m sure Cable’s convinced he can polish some turds even though Barnes and Harris show otherwise.
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thats what I’m afraid of
Pears & Barnes to battle for the RT job
Satele & Carlisle keep thier starting jobs with the only “competition” being Chris Morris
March 18th, 2010 at 7:35 am
you’re right N21. I didn’t see the Seymour trade coming and I loved it
Seymour is a great base end (1st & 2nd down) and penatrator DT (passing downs)
adding Wimbley makes us a very fierce team in 3rd & long or obvious passing situations
Shaughnessy-Kelly-Seymour-Wimbley
Trevor Scott coming off the edge from WLB
SACK!
but what about 1st & 2nd down? or 3rd & short? or goalline? this team doesn’t have a nose tackle and the other pieces to the puzzle won’t work properly until we get one.
Johnson-Huff-Branch-Asomugha is a very good secondary imo. Especially having Routt & Mitchell for depth.
a NT could make or break this entire defense
March 18th, 2010 at 7:38 am
by the way N21, I know you’re a good dude
sorry for being a pr1ck to you last week …
March 18th, 2010 at 7:42 am
Question to Raider Nation:
if Russell shows up for OTA’s at 255-260 pounds can I still call him the “Hamchise” ???
March 18th, 2010 at 8:04 am
Draft Ben Tate in the 3rd round
Ben Tate, RB, Auburn: Tate was one of those guys who didn’t quite make the cut on the preseason list. He was hurt by how dysfunctional Auburn was on offense in 2008. That wasn’t a problem this past season. The Tigers fed him the ball, and he delivered. The 5-11, 218-pound senior rushed for a career-high 1,362 yards and 10 touchdowns. He averaged 5.2 yards per carry and proved to be one of the toughest backs in the league to bring down. Despite carrying the ball 263 times, Tate lost just 44 yards all season. He also showed that he wasn’t just a power back and had three touchdown runs of 35 yards or longer.
March 18th, 2010 at 8:11 am
Judge:
does Ben Tate have “Raider speed” ?
March 18th, 2010 at 8:12 am
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More importantly, Kelli…who was business today?
I stop in early..you’re on here.
I leave..come back hours later, you’re STILL on here..
Leave again..and stop in briefly now..and YOU’RE STILL ON HERE.
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Wack-o, you STILL have not explained how you can be here all day and all nite posting as a troll, when you claim you “own” a company. No one else who “owns” a company can do that. Are you a liar? Yes, you are.
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It is possible to have a job and STILL be on an internet forum all day. I’m a perfect example. I’m not on HERE necessarily, but some people have jobs where they can sit in front of a computer and appear to be working, and no-one is the wiser. I’ve seen people that DO actually work, but do it very fast and get it over with, and then are able to kind of coast through the day. It would seem to that if you have your own company, and you have things set up right, you are more or less just over-seeing an operation, which if run smoothly, would allow you to spend all day talking to people on the internet. I’m just sayin’ it IS possible.
Now that I sound like a Ricochet lackey, I will less than graciously make my exit and get back to work.
March 18th, 2010 at 8:14 am
RaiderRockstar
He was only the third fastest HB at the combines with a 4.43 40 so I would have to say no. Got to be the fastest to have Raider speed.
Still, I think this kid has heart, is determined and smart and will be a star in the NFL
March 18th, 2010 at 8:15 am
You gotta love Ben Tate’s attitude.
There’s a swagger about him that’s genuine and not trumped up. And like most great athletes, he’s pretty skilled at finding all the motivation he needs.
The former Auburn tailback helped himself at the NFL combine last week with his 4.43 in the 40-yard dash, the third fastest time among running backs. He also had a 40.5-inch vertical leap, which was second among running backs, and tied for the most reps on the bench-press among running backs with 26.
Still, the highest you’re seeing the 220-pound Tate projected in the upcoming NFL draft is the third round, which is probably fitting. Last season, with all the strong performances by running backs in the SEC, Tate sort of got lost in the shadows despite his 1,362 yards rushing.
That’s OK, though, because that underdog role drives him, and will only pay dividends at the next level.
He chose not to run again during Auburn’s pro timing day on Tuesday, and who could blame him given his time in Indianapolis?
But he made it clear that he’s pushing as hard as ever.
“I think I’ve been underestimated my whole career,” Tate told reporters. “It drives me. It keeps me working hard. I don’t mind being the underdog. One day the underdog will be on top.”
March 18th, 2010 at 8:17 am
Judge: who ran a faster 40 than Tate?
March 18th, 2010 at 8:22 am
So the plan supposedly is to play Wimbley at LB next to Seymour?
That’s actually pretty smart!
March 18th, 2010 at 8:23 am
I don’t think anybody was impressed with the running game last year, but wouldn’t one possible solution be fixing the O-Line instead of adding another RB to the already crowded backfield?
we already lost one 3rd rounder for a player that wasn’t really needed. Can we afford to lose another 3rd rounder on a position other than OT, OG, C, DT, MLB, (perhaps even CB or FB)?
March 18th, 2010 at 8:24 am
So the plan supposedly is to play Wimbley at LB next to Seymour?
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really?
that would float my boat…
where did you find that juicy little nugget Jhill?
March 18th, 2010 at 8:24 am
RRS,
Did you catch the Q&A with Barnes on Raiders.com?
I think he might be playing guard.
I look for us to go OT at 8 if Davis or Bulaga are there. If both of those guy are gone, along with Okung, then there is going to be a DAMN good player fall to us.
March 18th, 2010 at 8:26 am
The only trust worthy source on all things Raiders.
A semi pro blogger from Jerry Mc’s blog.
March 18th, 2010 at 8:27 am
Not quite sure what that means for Tom Howard though. I’d still be really surprised if he is not back, but damn, it sure looks that way.
March 18th, 2010 at 8:27 am
I thought Wimbley was going to play rush DE like Derrick Burgess, Trevor Scott, Chris Clemons & Greg Ellis have in recent years?
if Wimbley plays OLB thats means either Howard or Scott will be on the bench.
I’m not convinced T-How will find another team willing to give the Raiders a 2nd rounder for him.
March 18th, 2010 at 8:31 am
Did you catch the Q&A with Barnes on Raiders.com?
I think he might be playing guard.
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no I missed that and work blocks the Raiders website
can you post it here?
Barnes at guard to compete with Morris & Carlisle? also provide insurance if Gallery’s back injury is worse than expected. fine by me! Wasn’t Langston Walker pretty decent playing guard for us last year though? I think I’d rather have Walker over Barnes if we’re giving a former tackle “guard duty”.
March 18th, 2010 at 8:34 am
Good Morning Nation!
March 18th, 2010 at 8:37 am
mornin’ ray
coffee is on me today…
March 18th, 2010 at 8:43 am
RRS
Spiller- 4.37
Best- 4.35
Tate- 4.43
I really beleive we need 3 strong RB’s. What will we do if (when) McFadden gets hurt?
In order for our running game to be top 10 again, which I think it will under the supervision of Hue, we need to add a top RB for depth. I don’t want to spend a 1 or 2 on a RB, I agree, we have bigger needs. BUT, Tate should be there in round 3 and is great value there.
March 18th, 2010 at 8:43 am
I look for us to go OT at 8 if Davis or Bulaga are there. If both of those guy are gone, along with Okung, then there is going to be a good player fall to us.
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do you think Trent Williams, Bruce Campbell or Mike Iupati are options if those 3 cats you listed are gone?
March 18th, 2010 at 8:44 am
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O Mock Draft 11.0;
1- Trade up for Suh
2- HB J Best
3- ILB Spikes
4- DE Austen Lane
5- OL Sam Young or Ciron Black
5- CB Stoudamire or Walter Thurmond
7- FB
March 18th, 2010 at 8:51 am
O Mock Draft 11.0;
1- Trade up for Suh
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trade up with who?
and give up what?
March 18th, 2010 at 8:53 am
Who drafts a G with the 8th pick?!
Look at Gallery: best draft in decades, and we end up with a G. We passed on Larry F, V Wilfork, S Taylor, and Dansby!! No more Gs in the 1st RD!
March 18th, 2010 at 8:54 am
I really beleive we need 3 strong RB’s. What will we do if (when) McFadden gets hurt?
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heavier (no pun intended) load for Mike Bush
we could always get a vet like Willie Parker, Ladell Betts, Brian Westbrook or Edgerrin James …
or just re-sign Justin Fargas?
March 18th, 2010 at 8:56 am
I’m thinking it will be the lions or TB, but More TB. I think the Lions will draft Okung. Trade TH, Kirk, and our 1st for their 3rd pick. TH & Kurk should do better in that scheme IMO.
March 18th, 2010 at 8:57 am
after the draft teams always dump RB’s left & right
there will be plenty of vets and undrafted rookie RB’s to choose from
thats all McBush needs for competition imo…
I don’t want to spend any draft picks on a RB unless Bush or DMC get traded on draft day
March 18th, 2010 at 8:59 am
Raiders.com: Why did you decide to re-sign with the Raiders?
Barnes: Because I got another fresh start here. When I came here last year I had the whole injury deal and I was in there at the right tackle. But I felt coming here, I had a fresh start and if I was going to come in at right tackle then I can come in and do it now and work until the season. I just like the group of guys that is here. It’s a good group of guys and you can’t find that in a lot of places. I’m just happy to get a fresh, clean start and have a good, clean year and after that we’ll just see what happens. So, I’m just excited to come back and play ball.
Raiders.com: What do you think your role will be this year?
Barnes: I really don’t know what spots I’ll be playing in. Last year, I was playing a little bit of guard here and there. I’d prefer to be at one of the tackle spots. I’m in the same boat as everybody else. We’re all here together and we just want to put the best five out there. I’m just keeping everything open and looking to be out there with a good, competitive group of guys.
Raiders.com: You get to block for some dynamic running backs. It all starts up front right? What do you guys need to do to get the running game going?
Barnes: Real dynamic and explosive in the backfield. Those guys feed off us and we feed off them. There’s nothing better to a lineman when you block a guy and your running back hits the crease for 10 or 15 yards, because you know it’s possible at any given time that those guys will go 30, 40 or 50. So a big block, they’re happy with it…a good run, we’re happy with it. It’s a very important relationship.
Raiders.com: When you’re leaning on those defensive linemen, do you feel it? Do you know as the game goes on that the backs can rip off some chunks of yardage?
Barnes: You feel like at the beginning of the game there are a lot of emotions on both sides so there is a lot of hitting and a lot of sparring. As the 2nd quarter comes and the 3rd quarter comes, you’re just wearing on them and then the five yards becomes the seven, and the seven yards becomes the 10 and the 10 yards becomes a break for the touchdown. Then you get the ball again and then all of a sudden you get to the 4-minute drill and you get a chance to run the ball out and two first downs and you’re done. You thrive on that, you want that and we’d rather have us play 70-80 snaps and have our defense play 50 or 60 snaps, and just wear the defense out. If their defense is on the field for 90 snaps, I guarantee you they’ll be feeling it. It’ll be harder for them to make tackles. That’s what we’re aiming for [in the running game].
March 18th, 2010 at 9:02 am
I think the Lions will draft Suh or Okung.
Bucs will draft McCoy (next Warren Sapp) without even thinking about a trade.
Morrison & Howard aren’t worth moving down 5 spots in the draft
the Lions could sign Antonio Pierce & Joey Porter in free agency today without trading anything and still get the player they want in the draft
March 18th, 2010 at 9:02 am
I have no clue about the draft RRS.
Iupati or Williams could be an option, but I don’t think Campbell will be in the mix.
It’s all going to depend on what happens in front of us. I think we could get a REAL good DT in rd 2. I’d go OT if Barnes can be plugged in for Carlisle.
March 18th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Lions HAVE to go Oline. For the same reasons we do. If they pass on Okung, they are NUTS!
March 18th, 2010 at 9:07 am
wow Jhill. sounds like Barnes will be competing for both spots on the right side, guard & tackle.
I’m all for giving second chances, especially when there is an injury involved, a position change and a scholarship guy (Green) no longer in the mix
thanks for the info man …
March 18th, 2010 at 9:10 am
TH and Kirk are perfect for that Cover 2 scheme. A Pierce and Porter are not a good fit for that scheme IMO.
Rams: QB Sam B
Lions: OT Okung
TB: trade with the Raiders for TH , Kirk, and the 8th.
Trade Huff or DMC if we have to. DRAFT SUH!!
March 18th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Question to Raider Nation:
if Russell shows up for OTA’s at 255-260 pounds can I still call him the “Hamchise” ???
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If I can still call him JaMarshmallow…… deal.
March 18th, 2010 at 9:13 am
Suh at 8 would be OUTSTANDING. I was saying it to folks all year and was kicking myself when he had that stellar Big 12 championship game.
“Damn, one year I wish we did pick in the top 5.”
March 18th, 2010 at 9:14 am
1-Bradford-Rams
2-Okung-Lions
3-Suh-Bucs
4-Bulaga-Skins
5-T Williams-Chiefs
6-Davis-Hawks
7-Berry-Browns
8-D Williams-Raiders
March 18th, 2010 at 9:15 am
R. Okung
T. Williams
A. Davis
B. Bulaga
these are the “cadillacs” of the 2010 draft, right?
I’m assuming Bradford, McCoy, Suh & Berry will be gone before #8 so that means at least one of these tackles will be available
if it comes down to Campbell vs. Bulaga I’m going to get nervous!
March 18th, 2010 at 9:17 am
RRS
Yeah, I understand what you are saying and that would probably be the smart way to address the problem. Any of those guys you mentioned would provide depth and MAYBE even spark.
I think the thing with me is that I am just not sure what is going to happen with our 2 current RB’s. When we drafted Bush I was very happy. A first round guy in the 4th. I though he was going to be our future. There have been times when he has impressed the hell out of me and then there have been times where I was questioning his conditioning. I just haven’t seen enough to really know what we have in him. AND it appears that Cable doesn’t like him. All year long we were asking what he did to get put in the doghouse.
Then we have McFadden. When we drafted him I was equally excited. He looked FAST. I though we had thunder and lightening. Then he was hurt, then hurt again. Then when he was on the field he got tackled to easily. Then there was the “we are not using him correctly” deal. SO, ultimately I don’t know what we have in him either.
Since there are ? with both of our running backs I think it is worth it to spend a 3rd on a strong, determined underdog RB. He should provide the depth we need, and provide the spark we need. It will also let the 2 rb’s we have now know that if they want on the field they are going to have to fight for it.
AND, if we end up finding out that 1 of our 2 rb’s is not going to work here, we have another strong rb to step up and fill their spot.
March 18th, 2010 at 9:19 am
inonewordraider:
no way McCoy drops below #8 brother …
but I’d love to get big Dan Williams!
March 18th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Judge: I can’t say you’re wrong for wanting another RB in the fold …
My thing is, we only have so many draft picks and we already spent one on Wimbley.
Barring a trade, I think Hue Jackson will find a way to get the most out of McBush. Especially if we can solidify the O-Line and get some decent play from the QB position (don’t hold your breath)
March 18th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Lions, Cheifs, Skins, and Hawks biggest need is by far T so gonna reach if need be.
Rams gonna opt to go the Falcons/Lions route
Bucs going w/ best player avail
Cleveland has good DT’s
March 18th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Schilens, Higgins, Heyward-Bey & Murphy.
who sticks as the 5th WR? and will we keep a 6th?
Nick Miller, Todd Watkins, Jonathan Holland, Yamon Figurs, Shaun Bodiford, Paul Hubbard …
March 18th, 2010 at 9:27 am
SPOON!
March 18th, 2010 at 9:28 am
all I can say is this …
if Suh or McCoy somehow drop out of the Top 5 there are going to be MANY teams trying to trade up ahead of Oakland
March 18th, 2010 at 9:31 am
49ers beat writer Matt Maiocco reports Scot McCloughan is “considering stepping down” as the team’s general manager
hahahahahahaha… Big Al are ya taking notes?
March 18th, 2010 at 9:35 am
SD just got an early 2nd rounder and an extra 3rd for Whitehurst. plus they got a 3rd for Cromartie a few weeks back
they might give a kings ransom to move up and grab Suh ahead of Oakland …
certainly Ian Scott is just a stopgap to replace Jamal Williams
March 18th, 2010 at 9:37 am
bet you SD is eyeballing Williams but will settle for Cody
March 18th, 2010 at 9:39 am
Morning Raider nation
Beat writer for the Seattle Seahawks Eric Williams is reporting it is likely that QB Matt Hasslebeck will be dealt. Seattle aqquired Charlie Whitehurst today and is figuring he is probaly going to be “the guy”.
The most likely destination for him would have been Clevland (Holmgren). Since the Browns got Delhomme It seems improbale now.
My question is would he be a good fit for 1-2 years in Oakland to help get us back to respectabilty? I know he’s not the long term answer, but maybe in the meantime Jamarcus can makes some progress (cringe) or we draft someone to be groomed.
You know how it is in the offseason, only so many Raider topics, so I thought I would throw this in the mix. I personaly wouldn’t mind signing him and letting them all compete. (JRuss,Grads,Hasslebeck)
by the way cut Frye and put him on coaching staff along with Fargas.
March 18th, 2010 at 9:39 am
CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) The Carolina Panthers will have at least one starting defensive lineman returning next season after agreeing on a three-year deal with defensive end Tyler Brayton.
Agent Tom Mills says the 30-year-old Brayton visited Seattle and had conversations with Oakland and Jacksonville, but is happy to return to Carolina.
Brayton signed a two-year contract before the start of the 2008 season and has started 31 games over the past two years. He was eighth on the team with 45 tackles last season and had five sacks.
He’ll likely be paired with much younger players next season. The Panthers let defensive end Julius Peppers leave for Chicago in free agency and cut starting tackle Damione Lewis and Maake Kemoeatu.
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the Raiders wanted Brayton back?
Hmmm…
March 18th, 2010 at 9:44 am
HB: Frye wasn’t as bad as you think last year
he had some pretty bright moments against Cleveland & Baltimore last year
I like Matt Hasselbeck, but he’s got back problems and you know he’d take a pounding in Oakland. Plus he’s still property of Seattle. I wouldn’t give up any picks for him unless it’s a 2011 7th rounder like Brady Quinn & Seneca Wallace were dealt for …
March 18th, 2010 at 9:49 am
Russell, Gradkowski, Frye. Can anyone of these guys get us to the playoffs?
March 18th, 2010 at 9:51 am
RR-I don’t think Frye was that bad, he is just very fragile. I agree Hasslebeck’s body isn’t in tip top shape, although It is still an upgrade over what we have in my opinion. I wouldn’t give up to much to get him, perhaps a 3rd round pick. I guess I would make the same arguement I made last year when the Raiders were being ripped apart for the Seymour deal. (I live in Ma) Which is-We need to do something now! Even if it doesn’t seems less than intelligent in the long term. If we could get 8 or 9 wins the next couple years, players might want to start coming to Oakland again. (not just for the $$) I think it would be a domino effect in a postiive way. (winning that is)
make sense?
March 18th, 2010 at 9:52 am
omit the word doesn’t from last post
March 18th, 2010 at 9:58 am
http://www.esquire.com/women/the-sexiest-woman-alive/bracket-tournament/natalie-gulbis-vs-lane-kiffin
Kiffie is still holding onto the lead 58% to 42%.
Keep the votes coming!!!
March 18th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Frye had a concussion against Denver.
came back and started the next 2 weeks and played well.. but in the 2nd half of the Baltimore game he got re-injured (back & ankle)
Gradkowski got a partially torn MCL in both knees (against Washington)
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anybody think we should fix the O-Line ?
March 18th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Frye is a career back up nothing more. Gradkowski also was on a few other teams and did nada. Russell, well we all know what Russell has done. The Raiders need a real QB. I believe Russell is the best we have. The problem is Our OL is horrible. Russell is a down the field passer and that type of QB needs a great OL. Brett Favre is a down the field QB also he would of looked like #$@$ if he played behide our line. I’m not saying Russell is anything like Favre, I don’t think Russell is good enough to be Favre’s water boy. I’m just sayin that Russell would be better is he had a better OL.
March 18th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Oline needs to be fixed without a doubt. I’m hoping we address that through the draft and maybe bring in Mawae and Andrews.
March 18th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Russell, Gradkowski, Frye. Can anyone of these guys get us to the playoffs?
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draft Dan Williams at #8.
draft OL in Rounds 2 & 3.
sign Brad Hoover, Kevin Mawae & Bobbie Williams in free agency …
We’ll find out!
March 18th, 2010 at 10:04 am
I’m just sayin that Russell would be better is he had a better OL.
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so would Bruce & Charlie. may the best man win!
March 18th, 2010 at 10:05 am
It’s funny how for many years (a long time ago) we had such a great line with Art Shell and those guys. Why big Al doesn’t see that as a priority anymore is beyond me. (It’s beyond him to apperently as he slips deeper and deeper into senlity)
March 18th, 2010 at 10:06 am
senility sp?
March 18th, 2010 at 10:08 am
RR- just because Frye would be improved with a better line, that doesnt mean hes a better QB than Hasslebeck. compare careers for starters.
March 18th, 2010 at 10:08 am
I agree with your mock draft RR. But where are we going to get a run stuffing LB from? All three of our LBs are dropback defend the pass types. Our weakside/rightside LB needs to be stout against the run also our MLB should be the same. I think the Raiders need two LBs also.
Needs: OT,OG,WLB,MLB,DT
March 18th, 2010 at 10:09 am
HB: Shawn Andrews is a dominant player (when healthy)
but he (like Gallery) has back problems.
unless the team doctor is James Andrews I think 1 starting guard with back trouble is risky enough
March 18th, 2010 at 10:10 am
# HairyBush Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 10:05 am
It’s funny how for many years (a long time ago) we had such a great line with Art Shell and those guys. Why big Al doesn’t see that as a priority anymore is beyond me. (It’s beyond him to apperently as he slips deeper and deeper into senlity)
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Drafting for oline is wise, and long term thinking.
Al is beyond long term thinking.
It’s “I want to win now”.
Unfortunately, and obviously, if Al used these exact principles the last handful of years, the winning would be “now”.
March 18th, 2010 at 10:10 am
RR,
Dan Williams at 8?! Why not trade up for SUH, or Draft an OT in the 1st and Lamarr Houston in the 2nd? Also draft Spikes in the 3rd or 4th. Word!
March 18th, 2010 at 10:10 am
If hasslebeck and Frye took turns playing behind the same line with the same talent around them, Hasslebeck is better everytime.
March 18th, 2010 at 10:14 am
just because Frye would be improved with a better line, that doesnt mean hes a better QB than Hasslebeck
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Frye is 6 years younger than Hasselbeck, doesn’t have back problems and he’s $4 million cheaper
plus he’s already on the team and wouldn’t cost us any picks.
Most people think Russell or Gradkowski will rise to the occasion this season anyways. Keeping both of these guys on the bench is a waste of $11+ million
Like I said, I like Matt Hasselbeck. Just not a good fit in Oakland imo …
March 18th, 2010 at 10:14 am
RRS..you’re a draft junkie, so to speak…
You should, for shytes and grins, start a ongoing list of who wants who, who predicts what, and see how it plays out…could be fun for you guys that delve into this stuff as much as you guys do..obviously your choice, of course.
I used to be a draft junkie, but gave it up years ago after watching too many “ok, here’s our guy” situations show up, only to watch someone else get picked…also don’t have the time to keep up on all the prospects.
March 18th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Morning Nation
Brian Price should be the pick in the 2nd round. That guy is also a beast and would be a steal IMO.
March 18th, 2010 at 10:16 am
RaiderO, What about trading down to get Williams? I like RR’s draft idea, i just think we need more. Get some more picks and get some more young players in the mix.
1 Williams
2 OT
2 WLB
3 OG
4 MLB
5 fast CB (you know Al wants to)
6 FB
7 OL
March 18th, 2010 at 10:17 am
You are right Rich. He thinks he can always fix the team by adding a few players instead of rebuilding.
He doesn’t like the words “Rebuilding” & “Blitz”. “Fixing” and “Attack” is much better. lol
March 18th, 2010 at 10:18 am
Richochet, If Al ever changes his mentality to the long term, We may have a better product coming our way down the road. I’m sure Al just fears he won’t be around for that day, hence the 2005 & 2007 spending spree for mostly useless pieces of farm machinery. It’s to bad Al couldn’t just love his Raiders from afar. It’s a shame when Human emotions/impending death etc; get in the way of making sound buisness decisions. He is a selfish man who won’t let go, and we all suffer in the mean time.
March 18th, 2010 at 10:18 am
RNOraiderFan = total draft junkie! I like the draft better then the superbowl.
March 18th, 2010 at 10:21 am
where are we going to get a run stuffing LB from? All three of our LBs are dropback defend the pass types.
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RNO: I know everybody thinks Morrison, Howard, Scott & Wimbley are weak against the run.
Morrison & Howard were both tendered and neither player has visited another team to date. Getting picks in exchange for 1 or both players is far from “in the bag”
I’m fine with these guys returning for 1 year at a combined $4 million or whatever it is. We’ll never know just how good this defense can be without a dominant nose tackle.
…and I think the defensive philosphy dictates how aggressive these guys can be. How often have you seen Capt Kirk attack the line of scrimmage on a run or pass blitz? roughly 60 percent of the time he’s floating back in coverage. I never see him even attempt to shoot a gap and crush somebody in the backfield unless it’s a sweep or toss play
March 18th, 2010 at 10:22 am
RNO,
The problem is Al doesn’t trade Down, he Will reach for players (DHB), or he trades up. I would rather trade up than reach for Bruce, Dunlap, Jason P, or J Best.
March 18th, 2010 at 10:23 am
RR- your point is irrelevant on salary and age because I do not view either as a long term answer. If you bring Hasslebeck in for competition it raises everyone up a level. More so than Frye will ever do.
March 18th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Let’s start fresh at the QB position and draft Lafevour in the 3rd round.(Let him sit a few years and learn)
March 18th, 2010 at 10:25 am
DMAC, who plays in mean time?
March 18th, 2010 at 10:26 am
Round 1 Dan Williams
Round 2 Ciron Black
= playoffs
March 18th, 2010 at 10:26 am
The reason why Morrison will not push to the line is because he can not fight his way through trash. This was a knock on him comming out of college. Everytime we gets close to the line he gets caught up in the trash and take himself out of the play. Howard is the same way. How many games have we watched and Howard has dissappeared for a quarter or two, and then WHAM a big hit by him in space and all is forgivin. These guys are 3rd down backers in my opinion.
March 18th, 2010 at 10:26 am
Whoever wins the job in training camp.
March 18th, 2010 at 10:27 am
oneword, last year Black was a 1rst rounder fosure. Now I hear about him slipping to the 4th or lower rounds. I think Black would be a solid pick up.
March 18th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Tom Cable is the clit commander lol
March 18th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Kelly plays Prices position, so cut Kelly?
March 18th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Look Dude,
Suh is the best player in this Draft IMHO. I think this guy can change our D, and make it a lot better. Draft him and our DL is fixed. Draft a MLB like Spikes in later RDs, or sign Pierce. Use the rest of the draft to fix the OL, and Add FB and a CB.
March 18th, 2010 at 10:29 am
I hear Al wants to take the line man with the quickest 40 time!
March 18th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Don’t cut Kelly, just his pay!
March 18th, 2010 at 10:30 am
post 347-there’s a shocker lol
March 18th, 2010 at 10:32 am
RNO: so what if Morrison & Howard don’t find a new team?
then what do we do about the LB positions?
March 18th, 2010 at 10:33 am
Best has Raider speed!
March 18th, 2010 at 10:34 am
1- SUH (trade with TB or Lions)
2- J Best
3- Spikes
4- Austen Lane if Available, Or OT Sam Young or Ciron Black
5- CB Stoudamire or Walter Thurmond
5- OL
7- FB
If our QBs can play better, then I think we can compete in the AFC west.
March 18th, 2010 at 10:35 am
your point is irrelevant on salary and age because I do not view either as a long term answer.
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HB: fair enough, but what about the other issues I brought up?
-Hasselbeck’s back issues
-draft pick(s)
-Bruce & JaMarcus making $11+ million on the bench
March 18th, 2010 at 10:39 am
RR if the Raiders draft like I metioned above (which they won’t) then the LB core would look like this
SLB Howard/Scott camp battle one starter one backup
MLB Rookie/Morrison ^^^^^^
WLB Rookie/Brown ^^^^^^
Everyother LB on the roster gets the boot! Unless they can run a real fast 40 time then I’m sure Al will keep them around.
March 18th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Best wants to be a Raider, he can compete with DMC & BUSH, and I think that will help us improve in rushing. I’m not sold on DMC, and Bush can’t be an every down back if he needs to sit after 5 carries.
March 18th, 2010 at 10:40 am
RRS..you’re a draft junkie, so to speak…
You should start a ongoing list of who wants who, who predicts what, and see how it plays out…could be fun for you guys that delve into this stuff as much as you guys do..obviously your choice, of course.
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Ricky: great idea
only problem is that there are a ton of guys in here who change their mind on a daily basis (can’t say I haven’t done it either I suppose). Then if I bring up the list post-draft they’ll say “I never said that” & “show me where I said that” etc etc
then what do you do? I wouldn’t waste my time sorting through 5 weeks of blog posts just to prove them wrong …
March 18th, 2010 at 10:44 am
1 Williams
2 OT
2 WLB
3 OG
4 MLB
if the Raiders draft like I metioned above (which they won’t) then the LB core would look like this
SLB Howard/Scott camp battle one starter one backup
MLB Rookie/Morrison ^^^^^^
WLB Rookie/Brown ^^^^^^
Everyother LB on the roster gets the boot!
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interesting. so you think a rookie 4th rounder could unseat Kirk? ouch! haha
and what about Kam Wimbley? strictly a DE?
March 18th, 2010 at 10:48 am
RR-
Hasslebeck does have back issues, so yes it would be a gamble. I think it would be fair to say the Raiders have made gambles in the past that wouldn’t really make this one look overly foolish. All and all you hope he gives you 1 maybe 1 and a half seasons. Worst case scenario he would make for one exciting traing camp.
As far as compenssation, I think you value are picks more than I do. If I were a fan of another team I probaly would not feel that way. Truth be told, the Raiders don’t exactly wow me with the majority of drafts they have taken part in. (that’s why I take the stance of free agency/trades more often than not)
Bruce/Jamarcus on bench for 11 mill. I view that as one position we would have a little depth. Could be worse.
If the Raiders would do what most of us want and have good depth on OL and DL we probaly wouldn’t be entertaining this conversation.
unfortunetley we don’t make the decsions in Raider HQ. I just base a lot of my views on the reality of how things are run in Alameda.
March 18th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Wimbley was a mistake, I would put him at DE. I would also start Howard and Morrison when we go to nickle D. Gotta get going nice talking to u all.
March 18th, 2010 at 10:51 am
cool man.
see ya RNO
March 18th, 2010 at 10:53 am
I think Waffle was a great addition and should contribute lots.
March 18th, 2010 at 10:54 am
DMAC, what makes you feel that way?
March 18th, 2010 at 10:54 am
Hey RR,
What do you think of Wille Parker? (has Raider speed)
March 18th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Willie
March 18th, 2010 at 10:56 am
HB: don’t bite my head off here, just throwing out a “what if” scenario.
We trade a 3rd rounder for Hasselbeck (not bad. Even though he’ll be 35 when the season starts he is a 3 time Pro Bowler)
That means we absorb the current contract that calls for him to make $5 million this year. If we do that, does that make him the unquestionned starter?
Because if it does and neither Bruce nor JaMarcus have a chance to win the starting job, wouldn’t it be best to unload one or both players? That would be like saying “Russell is a bust, time to move on” in my book
March 18th, 2010 at 10:56 am
Willie HAD Raider speed, now he has Ram speed
March 18th, 2010 at 10:57 am
Has lots of experience and coached a good Dline in NY.
March 18th, 2010 at 10:57 am
Draft day WarRoom in Alameda:
Undisclosed Staff Member – “Mr Davis, we’re on the clock and we’re all wondering if you want Suh?”
Al Davis – “Sue! Damn straight! I wanna sue the NFL for its draft system which forces me to pay the Great JaMarcus Russell, that Razorback failure guy and that nice kid from Maryland all the money in the world for nothing. Nothing!”
Undisclosed Staff Member – ” Mr Davis I meant Suh not sue.”
Al Davis – “Sue or not sue? Of course I’ll sue.”
with the 8th pick in the draft the Raiders say, “Suh”.
March 18th, 2010 at 10:58 am
has DMc been traded for a worn out dish towel yet?
March 18th, 2010 at 10:59 am
DMAC: fast Willie Parker is visiting the Rams today
I like him, but how much value does he have? he wasn’t the same guy coming back from injury … and what role does he expect to have?
If he would be content with 10 or less carries per game, then bring him on board. If he wants 15+ then I don’t think he should even be considered unless Mike or Darren get hurt
March 18th, 2010 at 11:01 am
I think he has something left. Didn’t play too much behind Mendenhall.
March 18th, 2010 at 11:02 am
has DMc been traded for a worn out dish towel yet?
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speaking of …
LaMont “towel biter” Jordan is available in FA too!
March 18th, 2010 at 11:06 am
RR,
Knowing Al Davis. Do you think he drafts a RB this year?
March 18th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Willie HAD Raider speed, now he has Ram speed
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did he officially sign with St Louis already?
the guy had turf toe last year. only had 98 carries on the season and averaged less than 4 yards per carry. no TD’s and 2 fumbles
also had 6 receptions and a score
March 18th, 2010 at 11:09 am
RR-
it’s all good. I get fired up, nothing personal.
I would still go with an open qb competion with all 3, with Hasslebeck most likely winning. I am leery on believing JRuss can win back his teammates (regardless of what kind of shape he gets his body into)I also feel JRuss does not have that leader or take charge mentality and probaly never will. I like Grads he is our “sparkplug” just don’t know if he has a full season in him. (anyone can have a few good games, a full season is another story)
More time with JRuss sitting may be a good thing in the long term for maturity,learning etc;. It is unfortunate that the salaries are what they are. The Raiders just need to get the best man out there. For the record when it’s all said and done I would rather be WRONG anyday about JRuss and other opinions I have with the Raiders for more wins anyday. IF Grads or Russell step up and play light out, I will be beside myself. Win lose ot tie Raiders till I die!
March 18th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Knowing Al Davis. Do you think he drafts a RB this year?
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only if McFadden or Bush get traded
otherwise we go with an undrafted rookie (like Louis Rankin a few years ago)
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Bush traded for a 3rd rounder and Al Davis taking a RB in Round 2 — like you said, knowing AD
March 18th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Let’s draft Ryan Matthews before we sign Willie Parker.
March 18th, 2010 at 11:11 am
RR-I know he was visiting the Rams, have no facts if he signed or not.
March 18th, 2010 at 11:11 am
Yeah, I luv Mathews but he’ll be gone in the middle of the 1st round. (Hpoefully not to the chokers!)
March 18th, 2010 at 11:13 am
alright HB, well said
so now we have a Hasselbeck/Russell/Gradkowski/Frye open competition with no picks in Round 3 …
where do you go with the draft picks in Rounds 1, 2 & 4?
March 18th, 2010 at 11:13 am
how about lets not even consider Washed up Willie.
March 18th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Hairy,
I wouldn’t mind giving Hasselback a shot, but he wouldn’t last more than 2 games w/ our Oline.
March 18th, 2010 at 11:16 am
I can see him going to the Chokers or the Patriots. He has a private workout with the Patriots today.
March 18th, 2010 at 11:16 am
round 1- we pray and we pray that by some miracle we get SUH. (please lord no Campbell)
round 2-Best available LB
round 4-Best avail Lineman
BTW- Frye is not allowed to take part in the QB competition. He will be allowed to coach. lol
March 18th, 2010 at 11:17 am
I don’t think it’s because Al Davis is in a hurry, it’s because Al Davis blows too much money on guys that aren’t that good, or that at least don’t contribute to wins. I like Lechler but the needs we have in front of him are off the charts. We could use a veteran receiver. What kinds of moves did Al make for SD’s guys, Jackson and Floyd? How about Peppers for our D line? We only have one D lineman worth a crop as it is. Why not Merriman at LB? I would much rather Al threw his money at these guys than the bums he gave it too, like Tommy Kelly. Al simply doesn’t know how to build a team. That’s the problem. If Al knew how to build a team, he could build a Super Bowl team in a couple of years with free agents. He just doesn’t know what he’s doing. That’s the problem. It’s not because he’s merely in a rush. Unfortunately, it’s much worse than that. I think dementia is playing a role in it.
March 18th, 2010 at 11:19 am
DMAC, RR has your same sentiment as far as durability. It is in fact a gamble. My stance is we really can’t do much worse, so Why not? I also say let’s revisit this conversation after the draft and perhaps a free agent signing or 2. If we did some upgrading could be interesting.
March 18th, 2010 at 11:20 am
The way Al has been drafting in the first rounds as of late, why not trade our 1st rounder fora proven young LT in Gather from B-More?
LT-Gaither
LG-Gallery
C-????/Satele
RG- Possibly Walker
RT-Henderson
March 18th, 2010 at 11:22 am
I have no problem trading picks for established guys. established is the key word.
March 18th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Whose the idiot that thinks Heyward-Bey ran other routes?
He was the supposed decoy that ran 9 routes all day. Once it was figured out that he can’t catch they only single covered him. I still remember that beautiful pass Russell threw to him (it was easy to remember since he sucked so badly) and he dropped the pass 50 yards downfield in between his legs because he body catches.
In my opinion, I never seen as poor a receiver on fundamentals as Heyward-Bey. At least James Jett caught quite a few touchdowns.
Lump him in with the Mike Williams, Troy Williamsons, Matt Jones’s, and Reggie Williams of WR busts this past decade.
March 18th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Al Davis doesn’t believe in protecting his quarterback. He believes his QB should just take 7 steps, stand there, and take the hits till someone gets open downfield. That’s why Bruce and Frye didn’t last long in Russell’s place.
March 18th, 2010 at 11:30 am
3 out of 4 of the WR u named played for the jags. Whoever is evaluating the talent in Jax for wideouts needs to evaluate himself!
March 18th, 2010 at 11:35 am
Khalif Barnes is going to be Game 1 starter at RT unless he sucks so badly in preseason or trainig camp.
The guy was awful last season but he was an OK LT in Jacksonville, he was injured almost all preseason and training camp last year and had to play in a new position at RT. If he cant make it to RT he will start at G at some point this season, just wait and see.
At least thats what I am starting to think Cable thinks, so we can say goodbay to drafting an OT with #8. We will select Eric Berry if available and move him to CB.
March 18th, 2010 at 11:36 am
post 392-vomit
March 18th, 2010 at 11:40 am
Raiders still scouting a lot of DE, maybe they see Wimbley as a LB. He is listed as a LB at Raiders official web roster.
Raiders scouts showing interest in DEs: Brandon Graham (Michigan), Tyson Alualu (Cal), Corey Wootton (Northwestern), Jermaine Cunningham (Florida) and Aaron Morgan (UL-Monroe)
Or maybe we are finally moving Seymour inside, where he should be playing.
March 18th, 2010 at 11:42 am
RRS..you’re a draft junkie, so to speak…
You should, for shytes and grins, start a ongoing list of who wants who, who predicts what, and see how it plays out…could be fun for you guys that delve into this stuff as much as you guys do..obviously your choice, of course.
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Put me down for the fast guy.
March 18th, 2010 at 11:43 am
At least thats what I am starting to think Cable thinks, so we can say goodbay to drafting an OT with #8. We will select Eric Berry if available and move him to CB.
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This is possible, and exactly what I would have thought if Routt wasn’t tendered so high. I think Al rolls with Stan, Nam, and CJ.
March 18th, 2010 at 11:44 am
I hope we move Seymour inside. But we haven’t been able to stop the run.
Earlier this decade when we did stop the run, guess what we had? WE HAD A NT
Grady Jackson, Sam Adams, and Ted Washington
Now we need another NT to make it happen
March 18th, 2010 at 11:44 am
Anderson seems to think Browns gave up on him too soon
Posted by Mike Florio on March 18, 2010 2:23 PM ET
As quarterback Derek Anderson settles in with his new team in Arizona, he’s still talking about his last team.
Regarding his failure in Cleveland, Anderson seems to think that he should have gotten more of a chance to keep the starting job.
“We had a lot of change and it was kinda hard,” Anderson told KTAR in Phoenix (via SportsRadioInterviews.com). “You kinda stick with the same guys over time and let everybody progress. It didn’t exactly happen. I’m just happy that I’m out of there and headed to Arizona.”
So he’s essentially saying that the Browns shouldn’t have benched him after a sluggish start to the 2008 season in favor of the guy for whom they gave up a second-round pick and a first-round pick, Brady Quinn.
As we’ve previously said, probably six or more times, the Browns should have realized after the 2007 season that Anderson’s strong performance was fueled by the fact that everyone expected him to be benched for Brady Quinn eventually, which allowed him to play loosely, and with confidence. And then they should have traded Anderson.
Once 2008 started, Anderson was looking over his shoulder, and it showed up in his play.
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This is why I don’t like QB competitions. Don’t wanna see one in Oakland. As long as JR is doing the things he has to do, I think he should be named the starter.
March 18th, 2010 at 11:46 am
NEW YORK (AP) Former NFL wide receiver Rocket Ismail has a new job as a television announcer for bull riding.
Ismail will serve as a correspondent for some of the Professional Bull Riders telecasts on cable channel Versus. He became interested in the sport when he took part in “Ty Murray’s Celebrity Bull Riding Challenge” on CMT.
Ismail will interview riders about their lives outside of competition, making his debut during Saturday’s broadcast from Fresno, Calif.
The former Notre Dame star played nine seasons in the NFL, making 363 catches for 5,295 yards and 28 touchdowns.
March 18th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Debo-when you get to comfortable that breeds complacancy. Let’s face it Jamarcus is not exactly a self starter. Extra motivation is something Russell needs, I mean seriously he has one of Al’s guys shadowing him daily to make sure he does what he’s supposed to.
March 18th, 2010 at 11:51 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 11:43 am
At least thats what I am starting to think Cable thinks, so we can say goodbay to drafting an OT with #8. We will select Eric Berry if available and move him to CB.
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This is possible, and exactly what I would have thought if Routt wasn’t tendered so high. I think Al rolls with Stan, Nam, and CJ.
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Its true Al is high on Routt and CJ, but those 2 along with Aso make the ONLY 3 CBs in the team, so we are going to draft a CB somewhere this year, the question is: where?
Also, Cable said at the Combine that the main goal in this year draft was to improve both lines and and the DBs.
March 18th, 2010 at 11:52 am
The ultimate Al Davis move: Scot McCloughan hired to be GM of the Oakland Raiders…
March 18th, 2010 at 11:52 am
the only time Seymour should be inside is on 3rd down or passing situations
if you want him as an every-down DT then it’s time to cut our losses with Tommy Kelly.
Either way we still need a nose tackle!
March 18th, 2010 at 11:52 am
I dont really think Suh will be there at #8
March 18th, 2010 at 11:53 am
I miss Ted washington and Sam Adams. BTW Seymour does belong inside on regular basis. Occasionaly for mis matches only!
March 18th, 2010 at 11:54 am
alright everybody.
give me your pick for the Raiders in Round 1
I don’t need trade scenarios or “what Al Davis will do”
who do you want?
I’m the first & only guy on my list so far …
Rockstar – Dan Williams
March 18th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Funny, I actually want good competition at every position and may the best man. Not the best contract win.
March 18th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Put me down for Alexander Wright
March 18th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Still think Al has something up his sleve. Wonder if #21 will be a Raider this season?
March 18th, 2010 at 11:56 am
LOL @ Alexander Wright!
March 18th, 2010 at 11:56 am
I trade for LT Gaither (Bmore)
March 18th, 2010 at 11:57 am
RaiderRockstar! In round 1 I want Dan Williams
I’m all for Mt.Cody in round 2
March 18th, 2010 at 11:57 am
the only time Seymour should be inside is on 3rd down or passing situations
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Richard Seymour was a 4-3 DT in College and was a first team all-american and selected #6 overall in the Draft.
Richard Seymour was a 4-3 DT in New England his first two season there and made the Pro Bowl in 2002.
March 18th, 2010 at 11:57 am
where’s Raider O?
I need to know, Suh or Spoon?
*** the moment of truth ***
March 18th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Back in the day I used to have a poster with T.Brown,Rocket ismail, A. Wright, and James Jett. That wasn’t a very fast WR core now was it. 3 out of the 4 were like DHB but could catch a lot better.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Willie Gault
March 18th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Trade #21 to seattle for their 1st, third, and a 2nd next year.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
El Tato: before Vince Wilfork the Pats had Ted Washington at NT (not Seymour)
before that it was Garrett Johnson & Jace Sayler i think …
March 18th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Richard Seymour was a 4-3 DT in New England his first two season there and made the Pro Bowl in 2002.
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I like Dick Seymour as a 4-3 UT (not NT)
in other words, Kelly’s position
March 18th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Trade #21 to seattle for their 1st, third, and a 2nd next year.
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then we could draft Joe Haden & Bruce Campbell in the Top 10!
haha
March 18th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
alright everybody.
give me your pick for the Raiders in Round 1
I don’t need trade scenarios or “what Al Davis will do”
who do you want?
on my list so far …
Rockstar: Dan Williams
RaiderResurrection: Dan Williams
March 18th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Get Antony Davis and Lupita(?). Trade back into first and grab Pouncey the center for FLA. Dominating line. Thrid grab Spikes. Fourth FB from USC.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
El Tato: before Vince Wilfork the Pats had Ted Washington at NT (not Seymour)
before that it was Garrett Johnson & Jace Sayler i think
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I know, I agree with you we still need a NT, Seymour is not a NT, Kelly is not either, we need that NT, but I would prefer to see Seymour inside. He offers little pass rush outside.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
According to NFL Fanhouse’s Nancy Gay, the 49ers and GM Scot McCloughan are cutting ties over what is being termed a “personal matter.”
“I’m fine and moving forward,” McCloughan said Thursday. The breakup is said to be by mutual agreement due to “longstanding personal issues.” The Niners will make an announcement later today, and director of player personnel Trent Baalke is expected to fill many of the GM duties. McCloughan could end up in Oakland, where his father was a scout for nearly three decades.
Source: nfl.fanhouse.com
March 18th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
alright Bells. I’m putting you down for Davis
cool?
March 18th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Dan Williams
March 18th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
El Tato: Agreed. Seymour over Kelly
who do you want in Round 1?
March 18th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
alright everybody.
give me your pick for the Raiders in Round 1
I don’t need trade scenarios or “what Al Davis will do”
who do you want?
on my list so far …
Rockstar: Dan Williams
RaiderResurrection: Dan Williams
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Dez Bryant
March 18th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
McClain today!!! but who know tommorow?????
March 18th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
knows
March 18th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
oneword & debo: got you guys down
thanks!
March 18th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
gotcha DMAC. thanks bro
HairyBush, Ghost? what about you guys?
March 18th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Let’s not forget, when Al mentioned bringing in a possible GM, he said it was “someone local”. Maybe he was referring to McCloughan
March 18th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
LA to TheBay & Ottocrat
1st round selection please
who do you want?
LA said “the fast guy” LOL. please be more specific
March 18th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
If Suh is there, it’s a no-brainer. I just don’t think that’s reality. I like Williams.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Put me down SUH
March 18th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
HairyBush Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Debo-when you get to comfortable that breeds complacancy. Let’s face it Jamarcus is not exactly a self starter. Extra motivation is something Russell needs, I mean seriously he has one of Al’s guys shadowing him daily to make sure he does what he’s supposed to.
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That sounds great in theory, but I just don’t think it works. Especially when you consider what happened last year. Because of that one qtr in the Pitt game, there are all these Bruce lovers. If JR opens as the starter at home, every incompletion will bring down all kinds of boos from the haters. He’ll be under pressure to be perfect and no QB should be in that position. I will say this though. JR seems to have the makeup to handle a competition well and from what I’ve seen so far, he could care less about what the haters think. That should serve him well.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
got you guys. thanks
March 18th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
so far …
Rockstar: Dan Williams
RaiderResurrection: Dan Williams (03/18)
Inonewordraider: Dan Williams (03/18)
Ottocrat: Dan Williams (03/18)
Hellsbells: Anthony Davis (03/18)
RaiderDebo: Dez Bryant (03/18)
DMAC: Rolando McClain (03/18)
HairyBush: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
March 18th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Al Davis has put together 6 winning rosters in the last 20 years.
So these draft discussions are purely academic?
March 18th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
El Tato: Agreed. Seymour over Kelly
who do you want in Round 1?
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I dont know, I would like to see us finally selecting a player that can actually contribute right away. I would like to see us picking an OT, the best they can get, but no more projects (example: Bruce Campbell)
March 18th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
just for fun Kell …
so who do you want?
March 18th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 11:54 am
alright everybody.
give me your pick for the Raiders in Round 1
I don’t need trade scenarios or “what Al Davis will do”
who do you want?
I’m the first & only guy on my list so far …
Rockstar – Dan Williams
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i agree… if not availbale… McClain…
March 18th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
If I had to choose, maybe OT Trent Williams.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
I would like to see us picking an OT, the best they can get, but no more projects (example: Bruce Campbell)
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alright El Tato. give me a name
Okung, Williams, Davis or Bulaga at #8 ?
March 18th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Well if AP fell to the vikings when he was considered the top pick then Suh can fall to 8 but it is a reach.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Tato & Pete. got you guys down
thanks
March 18th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Tino: is that your choice?
you want Suh?
March 18th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
1st round- Brian Bulaga
March 18th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Didn’t think that question would be so tough, but I’d have to say Anthony Davis.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
MOUNT LAUREL, N.J. (AP) Former NFL lineman Jon Runyan said Thursday that he’s willing to spend his own money to win his campaign for Congress in New Jersey.
The ex-Philadelphia Eagle retired from football this year to run as a Republican in New Jersey’s 3rd District, where his party was expecting a competitive race even before a football star well-known in the area threw his helmet in the ring.
His formal campaign launch is scheduled for Thursday.
He said Wednesday in an interview with several reporters about his background, ambitions and positions that he’s doing fundraising, but that he won’t rely solely on donors as he challenges John Adler, a first-term Democrat who already had $1.4 million in his campaign war chest by Dec. 31.
“If my money comes into play, it does. If it doesn’t, it doesn’t,” he said. “I’m going to do everything I can to win this campaign. I’m not in it to compete. I’m in it to win it.”
Runyan said the main reason he wants to run is to try to control federal government spending. He cited the legislation to overhaul health insurance as an example of what he sees as government trying to do too much.
“I don’t think that the way that Washington’s approaching it right now, by spending another big spending bill, they’re going to end up raising taxes – that doesn’t need to be done,” he said.
He said he favors allowing insurance companies to sell policies across state lines. That, he said, would reduce insurance costs and increase the availability of coverage without affecting taxpayers.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Jhill & Judge: got you guys down
thanks!
March 18th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Ways to solve this team problems
Sign Mawae, Chester Pitts/Bobbie Williams and T.O/Holt, all these guys will cost us less then $10 mill this year and would give us the veteran leadership needed offensively (except for T.O)
Draft these rookies.
1. Trent Williams OT (a reach)
2. Brandon Spikes MLB (a reach)
3. Linval Joseph NT (a reach)
4. Mitch Pietrus G (might drop)
5. Roddrick Muckelroy LB (a reach)
5. Trindon Holliday WR/KR/PR (might drop)
7. Matt Clapp FB (a reach)
March 18th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Sign Mawae, Chester Pitts/Bobbie Williams and T.O/Holt, all these guys will cost us less then $10 mill this year and would give us the veteran leadership needed offensively (except for T.O)
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I’m with you brother.
Except I would add Brad Hoover to your list and replace Terrell Owens with Muhsin Muhammad …
March 18th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
I don’t know what Bucky is smoking, cause there is no way in heck, Suh is falling to us at #8!
I do agree now that Seattle has overpaid for their apparent QB of the future in Whitehearst, they will NOT be drafting a QB like Clausen falls to them at #6 and they will NOT be trading up for either Bradford or Clausen, so they will be taking an OT to replace Walter Jones and since they had serious O-Line problems last year.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
MOUNT LAUREL, N.J. (AP) Former NFL lineman Jon Runyan said Thursday that he’s willing to spend his own money to win his campaign for Congress in New Jersey.
“I don’t think that the way that Washington’s approaching it right now, by spending another big spending bill, they’re going to end up raising taxes – that doesn’t need to be done,” he said.
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Translation: “As a Republican, I’m opposed to anything that doesn’t funnel money only to the richest of the rich.”
March 18th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Tim Kawakami Twitter:
“JaMarcus Russell weighed 271 pounds when he reported for voluntary work-outs this week”
I thought he was gonna weight less than that
March 18th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
RaiderRockstar
Muhsin Mohammad is as washed up as it gets, at least Torry Holt had 722 yards playing in Jacksonville and he said in Espn that at this stage of his career, he is open to mentor younger players and not be in the spot light.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
DMAC Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
According to NFL Fanhouse’s Nancy Gay, the 49ers and GM Scot McCloughan are cutting ties over what is being termed a “personal matter.”
“I’m fine and moving forward,” McCloughan said Thursday. The breakup is said to be by mutual agreement due to “longstanding personal issues.” The Niners will make an announcement later today, and director of player personnel Trent Baalke is expected to fill many of the GM duties. McCloughan could end up in Oakland, where his father was a scout for nearly three decades.
Source: nfl.fanhouse.com
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Hey old man Al do yourself and the fans and organization a favor and hire Scott McCloughan as the Head of Player Personnel decisions!
March 18th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
DKnight007 & N21 :
who do you guys want in Round 1 ???
March 18th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Figured you would have fun with this
Richochet: McClain, which means Al takes Mays just to be Al.
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# RaiderRockstar Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
so far …
Rockstar: Dan Williams
RaiderResurrection: Dan Williams (03/18)
Inonewordraider: Dan Williams (03/18)
Ottocrat: Dan Williams (03/18)
Hellsbells: Anthony Davis (03/18)
RaiderDebo: Dez Bryant (03/18)
DMAC: Rolando McClain (03/18)
HairyBush: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
March 18th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
jhill Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Didn’t think that question would be so tough, but I’d have to say Anthony Davis.
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Davis is looking like an interior lineman if he’s going to start early in the NFL. He’ll need work and polish, something he’s not known for.
The kid has red flags for his inconsistent technique, motivation and weight issues.
Not someone you want policing himself in Oaklands loose scheme.
If we were gonna take a flyer on a fat lazy lineman we could’ve done it last year with Smith.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
I want Trent Williams, lock me down.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
# El Tato Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Tim Kawakami Twitter:
“JaMarcus Russell weighed 271 pounds when he reported for voluntary work-outs this week”
I thought he was gonna weight less than that
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271??
cool…
So he did lose weight…
Wasn’t he listed as 260 last year, coming in?
Oh…wait….uh…
Never mind
March 18th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Muhsin Mohammad is as washed up as it gets
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maybe so, but we’re looking for a vet mentor. right? not a #1 WR
Moose caught 53 balls for 581 yards last year playing second fiddle to Steve Smith during the worst year of Jake Delhomme’s career. not bad imo
trumps anything we’ve had at WR the past 2 years!
March 18th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Never fear Raider Nation if Suh does fall Al won’t take him. (see Crabtree and Orakpo)
March 18th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
El Tato Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Tim Kawakami Twitter:
“JaMarcus Russell weighed 271 pounds when he reported for voluntary work-outs this week”
I thought he was gonna weight less than that
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HEY VEGAS !!!
what’s the over/under on how much ballast Jamarcasaurus had to drop to get to 271…
i’m guessing 40 pounds…
March 18th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
MOUNT LAUREL, N.J. (AP) Former NFL lineman Jon Runyan said Thursday that he’s willing to spend his own money to win his campaign for Congress in New Jersey.
“I don’t think that the way that Washington’s approaching it right now, by spending another big spending bill, they’re going to end up raising taxes – that doesn’t need to be done,” he said.
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Translation: “As a Republican, I’m opposed to anything that doesn’t funnel money only to the richest of the rich.”
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EXACTLY Nnamdi…end of story!
March 18th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
Either one of the Williams’ would be fine by me at #8.
Dan or Trent
March 18th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
dantche34 , N21 & DKnight :
who do you guys want in Rd 1 ?
4eve & Ricky – got you down man
thanks!
March 18th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
DKnight007 & N21 :
who do you guys want in Round 1 ???
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I’ll take Trent Williams and install him day one at RT. “Unselfish, works hard.” Had great measurables at combine. Ran 2nd fastest 40 at 4.88 if Al’s interested.
Big,6-5, 315 and likely to be there even if Seattle takes Bulaga.
I think KC, who could use another lineman, goes Safety instead.
Williams would work.
March 18th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
JR weighs 271 and thats a “much slimmer” and “fit version” of him?
holy cow!
what did he weigh before?
March 18th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Dknight007
Scott McCloughan is garbage, he stinks, i dont even want him near the Raider facility. The only good think he does, he locks down good players for cheap but as far as free agency goes and drafting, this guy knows nothing. Look at their spending habits, Nate Clemons, Tully Banta Cain gone after give him huge contract, Michael Lewis. Nah, the guy knows nothing. If I am a 49er fan, I would want to give up one first rounder we got for Mcnabb, what they do, they sign Carr lol. 49er is a whack team.
March 18th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
N21: got you down
DKnight: pick a Williams man
whats more important to you? OT or DT?
March 18th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
dantche34 Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Never fear Raider Nation if Suh does fall Al won’t take him. (see Crabtree and Orakpo)
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Crabs had prima Donna written all over him and ove of the longest hold outs I can remember.
Passing on Orakpo makes more sense with Seymour on board, but man, DHB better improve ALOT this year.
I can’t see Suh getting past Tampa and or Detroit, but you’re right, its not guaranatee we’d take him.
March 18th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
JaMarcus had to be weighting close to 300 pounds last season if 271 is “drop weight”
Still, his playing weight is 260, he should be able to reach 260 or even less if he works hard until the season starts
March 18th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
N21: got you down
DKnight: pick a Williams man
whats more important to you? OT or DT?
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Spent the picks in recent years on offensive finre power, now you need someone to help them achieve.
DMAC needs big lanes to sprint thru untocuhed so his speed can be maxed.
Russell has alway s held the ball too long and needs that extra 1/2 second in protection.
According to the Davis scheme the offense needs to help the run D.
March 18th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
serious question –
is it unreasonable to ask Russell to drop another 20 pounds by August?
March 18th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Dknight007
Scott McCloughan is garbage, he stinks, i dont even want him near the Raider facility. The only good think he does, he locks down good players for cheap but as far as free agency goes and drafting, this guy knows nothing. Look at their spending habits, Nate Clemons, Tully Banta Cain gone after give him huge contract, Michael Lewis. Nah, the guy knows nothing. If I am a 49er fan, I would want to give up one first rounder we got for Mcnabb, what they do, they sign Carr lol. 49er is a whack team.
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He is better than Al Davis!! LOL!
March 18th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
By the way….this maybe hard to swallow but the Niners are a better team than the Raiders as of right now at least…..
March 18th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Anyone see newly annointed KC Chief Romeo Crennel injure Eric Berry at his Tennessee pro day?
Way to go Crennel!
I think they take Berry with their 1st rounder. He’s really really good, but if they do, that’ll leave a tackle for us to draft.
March 18th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Don’t care how much Russell weighs long as he’s hitting the books and prepping like he should. If not, fug it. We’ll head into the season with whats his face, the can’t get a starting shot elsewhere guy.
Either Russell, does or he doesn’t and nothing we say is gonna change it.
Hope he’s serious and ready to become the leader and bad azz QB he’s supposed to be.
March 18th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
went to http://www.halls.md/body-mass-index/av.htm
checked Russell’s BMI
typed in 6′6″ 271 lbs
24 year old male
result:
Body Description = Obese
“Your Weight is at the 91st percentile compared
to others of same Height and Age”
If you are at 50th percentile, you are close to the average weight.
At 90th percentile, your weight is greater than 90% of others.
March 18th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
How is coming in at 271, after ‘allegedly’ weighing 260 at start of camp last year, getting in better shape?
So in reality if he was 275 last season, and ballooned up, he’s now back to 4 lbs under his playing weight last year…
That’s some SERIOUS conditioning…what a joke! Man, it never ends w/ this kid.
March 18th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
DKnight007 & dantche34 :
who do you want in Round 1?
March 18th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
VanHeathen: whats up man?
who do you want in Round 1?
March 18th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Don’t think Suh will be there at 8, just seems to much of a dream. Anyone who can help inthe trenches, i don’t get my hopes up, cause too many things can change on draft day…
March 18th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Dknight
The niners play in the weakest division in the whole NFL, add to that they play in the weaker conference in the NFC, add to that they have one of the easiest schedule, add to that they have a good coach, with all that, they still weren’t a playoff team. As far as roster, their offense is Frank Gore and defense Patrick Willis, they have many weakens and they cant cover and Alex Smith had the worst third down percentage.
March 18th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
We should pounce on Pouncey in the 2nd if the’s there. I’d even move up for him.
We need a smart center who can lead the O calls.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1273188
March 18th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Good afternoon (4:04pm here in Va), Raiders fans! How is everyone today?
Anyone have any thoughts on the likelihood of Al deciding to take Patrick Robinson, the CB out of FSU with the second round pick? Robinson ran a sub-4.4 today at his pro day… so he will get more attention now. I don’t want to use any of our first four picks on anything but the lines unless Spikes is there in the second. However, we never know what will happen, so what do y’all think?
March 18th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
RRs,
First of all, howdy… how you doin today bro?
Secondly, BMI is total crap. When I got out of the Army, I was 5′10, 185. I had FOUR percent body fat. I want to give you a second for that to sink in. FOUR PERCENT BODY FAT. I had a lot of muscle on my frame and was in the best shape of my life.
The BMI scale said that I was morbidly obese.
March 18th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
VanHeathen, SteveAlford21 & DKnight
who do u want in Round 1 @ 8 ???
March 18th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Nnamdi, I totally agree on Pouncey. I want to find a way to get the best G, best C, and one of the top 5 DTs and top 5 OTs. I know that there’s virtually no chance of it happening, but a fella can dream…
March 18th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
271?!?
March 18th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
How does Kawakami know Russell weighed in at 271?
March 18th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Ryan, VanHeathen, SteveAlford21 & DKnight
who do you want in Round 1 ???
March 18th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
so far …
Rockstar: Dan Williams
RaiderResurrection: Dan Williams (03/18)
Inonewordraider: Dan Williams (03/18)
Ottocrat: Dan Williams (03/18)
Florida Pete: Dan Williams (03/18)
HairyBush: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
DMAC: Rolando McClain (03/18)
Richochet: Rolando McClain (03/18)
Hellsbells: Anthony Davis (03/18)
Jhill: Anthony Davis (03/18)
El Tato: Trent Williams (03/18)
Raiders4eve: Trent Williams (03/18)
Nnamdi21: Trent Williams (03/18)
The Judge: Brian Bulaga (03/18)
RaiderDebo: Dez Bryant (03/18)
March 18th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
I want to move up and get Suh.
However, if we HAVE TO pick at 8 and Suh, McCoy, and Okung are gone, I would say to take Iupati or Bulaga. I am somewhat concerned that Campbell won’t be a good bill of goods and is all measurables, but I wouldn’t cuss TOO MUCH if we took him. That having been said, I would prefer the other five guys that I mentioned… any of them in the order that I listed. I have to help a customer now, though… be back in a few.
March 18th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
For Russell to be considered “Overweight” instead of “Obease”, he needs to weigh in at 257
March 18th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Steve: would you rather have Iupati or Bulaga ?
March 18th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
For Russell to be considered “Overweight” instead of “Obease”, he needs to weigh in at 257
***
make it happen JR!
March 18th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
SteveAlford21 Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
RRs,
First of all, howdy… how you doin today bro?
Secondly, BMI is total crap. When I got out of the Army, I was 5′10, 185. I had FOUR percent body fat. I want to give you a second for that to sink in. FOUR PERCENT BODY FAT. I had a lot of muscle on my frame and was in the best shape of my life.
The BMI scale said that I was morbidly obese.
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Finally something we agree on. I wouldn’t be surprised if 90% or more of the guys in the NFL are considered obese.
March 18th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
I want Suh for the Raiders first pick.
I’m expecting T. Williams. (Which is ok, also.)
I would be happy with DL, OL or LB.
March 18th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
thanks Ryan!
still waiting for VanHeathen, SteveAlford21 & DKnight …
March 18th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
RRS, If I maybe so bold. I’ll take Suh if he falls to us. If not him then I would grab T. Williams.
March 18th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
oops may be
March 18th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
gotcha ghost. thanks bro
March 18th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
still waiting for dantche34, VanHeathen, SteveAlford21 & DKnight …
I guess some guys just don’t know what they want!
LOL.
I didn’t think it was that big of a deal
March 18th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Impeach 0bama.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Why haven’t Republicans tried to impeach Obama? Oh, that’s right, they can’t. They were voted out of the majority.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Impeach J Russell.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Why should Russell lose weight? He’s going to get paid no matter what. Do you guys want Russell to lose weight as a personal favor to you? What does he owe you? He has an agreement with Al Davis, or, the Oakland Raiders. He shows up, he gets payed. It is the Oakland Raiders who agreed to that deal. Every contract has two signatures. You guys are only taking aim at one signature on that contract. Why?
March 18th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
RRS
LA to TheBay:
Suh.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
MR, did you see 0bama melt down on FOX yesterday ? Great TV! His lips were even more purple than normal, he probably had a big cup of grape Koolaid before the interview.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
MR & Brown –
who do you guys think the Raiders should draft in Round 1?
March 18th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Russell shouldn’t worry at all about his weight, unless for health reasons. As far as football goes, he’s set. He has his money. I don’t blame him for not caring. It’s obvious Al is not going to cut him. He has a sweet deal. You can’t get mad at him for being smart enough to know it and take advantage of it.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
RR, depends on who is there at #8.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
LA: Suh = “the fast guy” ?
LOL!
March 18th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
depends on who is there at #8
***
Brown,
lets say you had your choice. the pick of the litter …
March 18th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
LA: Suh = “the fast guy” ?
LOL!
==============================
I believe Ricky said who we THINK will be the pick.
I stand pat at “the fast guy.”
I WANT Suh.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
RRS, I’m not concerned with this year’s draft. We have so many needs that draft picks will not fix. Means nothing to me.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
RR,
The first 3 picks should be a OL, DT, MLB in no special order. Best guy available.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
come on MR. don’t be a party pooper
just list a player you think might have a big impact for the Raiders or at least a guy who fills a position of need
March 18th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Unless the following are on the board, the draft is of no concern to me:
An owner
A general manager
A head coach
a coaching staff
A good QB
An entire offensive line ready to play at a winning NFL level, now
At least 3 d linemen or linebackers who can play the run
And, of course, we’d need the 15 or so picks to get all of these guys. So, since these dire needs can’t be addressed, there’s no point in wasting my time watching the draft. It counts for absolutely nothing.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
I wasn’t aware there was a party in here, RRS. Looks like a football discussion, to me. And, I’m participating just like everyone else.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Brown: say you have your choice of
Okung
T. Williams
Davis
Bulaga
Suh
McCoy
D. Williams
McClain
Spikes
Spoon
March 18th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
RRS, I’ll do you one better. Here’s my mock Al Davis Mock Draft
1. Bruce Campbell
2. Jahvid Best
3. Jacoby Ford
4. MLB with Raider Speed
5. OG with Raider Speed
5. Cover Corner with Raider Speed
6. Fullback with Raider Speed
7. Fastest guy left
If Eric Berry is on the board at 8, Al takes him.
If Suh is on the board at 8, Al takes him.
They won’t be, so there’s your 2010 Raider draft class.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
RR,
I dont watch College Football. I’ve said that several times. I dont watch combines, you get the picture? We need a DT, MLB, and OL.
Witht he 4th pick I might go after a WR because JLH & DHB are garbage.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
I’m participating just like everyone else
***
and you’re doing a great job bro
give me the name of a player please
March 18th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Witht he 4th pick I might go after a WR because JLH & DHB are garbage.
***
you mean 8th overall?
or 4th round pick?
March 18th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Rockstar, what happens if I don’t give you a name?
March 18th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
4th round
March 18th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Rockstar, what happens if I don’t give you a name?
—————————
You don’t want to attend a Podunk BBQ. Not for liberals.
Appease the man or things get awful ugly (and smelly, and toothless, and you will have a sudden urge to park your Nova on the front lawn next to the broken refrigerator)
March 18th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
DT, OL, MLB, WR, FB, OL
Those are our holes!
March 18th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Rockstar, what happens if I don’t give you a name?
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a name will be given to you…
March 18th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
nothing MR. I didn’t know it was such a big deal to you
by the way, your boys Gruden & Trestman are grooming Tim Tebow
I know how much you love the “bible thumper”
should I go ahead and mark him down as your pick at #8?
March 18th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
LA To the Bay, what is a Podunk BBQ?
March 18th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Rockstar, maybe you’re having trouble paying attention, but what I said is that the draft is NOT a big deal to me. Obviously, it’s a big deal to YOU. you’re the one who wants everyone to name a draft pick, so obviously, it’s a big deal to YOU, not me. I gave you my reason as to why I think it’s stupid and won’t participate, and you responded by telling me to name someone anyway. Thought that was an interesting response, but I guess you didn’t mean anything by it. So how about letting it go now?
March 18th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
MR, its a BBQ for Drama Queens.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
These are a lot of holes to fill on our roster (post #534)
March 18th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Have you been to one of these, MB? A podunk bbq?
March 18th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
new post!
March 18th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Rockstar, maybe you’re having trouble paying attention, but what I said is that the draft is NOT a big deal to me. Obviously, it’s a big deal to YOU. you’re the one who wants everyone to name a draft pick, so obviously, it’s a big deal to YOU, not me. I gave you my reason as to why I think it’s stupid and won’t participate, and you responded by telling me to name someone anyway. Thought that was an interesting response, but I guess you didn’t mean anything by it. So how about letting it go now?
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remember i said a name would be given to you if you did not give a name???
here it is:
DRAFT DODGER…
BAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH…
March 18th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
RRs,
Sorry for the delay, I was with a customer and then had to run to the bank and go pick up more nitrile gloves. It’s tough to pick between Bulaga and Iupati… and every time I think I’ve chosen, I pause and rethink it. Honestly, I’m fine with either pick. I keep thinking that I’d rather have Iupati since he’s the top Guard, but then again, Bulaga could play G just fine if he doesn’t work out at T. Okay, at this moment, I say that I’d rather have Bulaga… I think.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
RR, we are set at Safety, RB, K, Punter, Schilens & Murphy at WR, add 1 more. Wimbley, Howard @ LB, fill in a MLB. We are ok at DE, we need a C and maybe a RT. We have Frye & Gradkowski @ Qb.
What else do we need?
March 18th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
What up NATION?
RR, What up Bro? Anyway we ned to take the best availble OT,DT,MLB period.
2 of the first 3 picks should address the oline. Get Dan Lefevour in the 4th if your not going to trade for Smith at baltimore.
I heard JRUSS weighed in at 271. He must have really been 3 bills. what a lard A$$…..
March 18th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
DKnight007 & dantche34 :
who do you want in Round 1?
^^^^^^^^
Well as of now the pick should be on one of the elite OT prospects or a DT, because this freakin team needs to get better in the trenches and the have nothing so far in free agency to upgrade those positions.
As of now, since there seems to be more good depth at the DT position that the OT position….so far the pick should be either T Williams, D Williams or A Davis.
However, the old man will probably target B Campbell or JPP.
I’m still not sure who I want the pick to be yet.
I need to see what other moves are made in free agency or trade to fill certain positions.
March 18th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
I will give whoever a BJ and yank till the last drop if we can land Suh!
March 18th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
who the hell is bucky brooks?
March 20th, 2010 at 9:47 am
baluga is a rt in the nfl.al won’t pick him early and he should not.disaster has been the norm since wacky alva ran gruden and allen.don’t know if it will ever get better.
March 23rd, 2010 at 9:25 pm
THE RAIDERS ARE GOING TO GIVE UP THE NUMBER 8 PICK IN A TRADE WITH MIAMI FOR RONNIE BROWN,THEN SIGN FREE AGENT ADAM PACMAN JONES WHICH WILL GIVE THEM A KICK RETURNER,THEN TRADE ASUOGHMWA TO MIAMI FOR THEIR FIRST ROUND AND FOURTH ROUND PICKS!
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