Raiders doing Russell no favors
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, March 17th, 2010 at 8:54 am in Oakland Raiders, Regular Season (2005).
JaMarcus Russell was back in town. Sleek, dedicated, ready to play.
Hey, if Greg Papa can tell from a video that Russell’s face is thinner, who are we to disagree?
That’s what Papa gleaned from the Comcast SportsNet Bay Area “exclusive” in which poor Kate Longworth and a camera man were reduced to chasing alongside Russell to sneak in a few questions about his first offseason conditioning session.
This came a day after Willie Brown talked about the quarterback’s “significant” weight loss and newfound dedication after a difficult 2009.
The Raiders official company line?
No comment. Russell won’t be made available for the team for anything substantial until minicamp.
Seems to me if you’re convinced Russell is a new man, you waste no time shouting it from the rooftops, arranging interviews and photo opportunities to placate a fan base that voiced their displeasure in the form of boos a year ago. Some of these people are on the fence about renewing their season tickets and a little off-season optimism might push them back in the direction of the Coliseum.
There are only two reasons why the Raiders keep Russell under wraps:
1) They’re not convinced. Russell has a lot to make up for, and dropping a few pounds is only just a start. Let him win back his teammates for a few weeks and demonstrate something beyond merely showing up.
This story will play out over time and Russell needs to prove himself before he opens his mouth, although the Longworth interview had worthwhile comic elements.
2) To hell with the media, a longstanding Al Davis tradition. You cover the Raiders long enough, you get to know a lot of former employees in and around the media relations department who are eager to tell you how their hands were tied by a team philosophy. Don’t do anything to help them do the media do their jobs.
As a media member, you get used to it and work around it. But there are times when it does a disservice to the players.
If scenario No. 1 is the reason for keeping Russell away from public view, then why would Brown be on Comcast SportsNet with Papa, who serves as both the team’s voice and pro-Al mouthpiece?
The second scenario is the one that hurts a player like Russell whose public image in the Bay Area in particular could use some shrewd handling.
Take, for example, Russell’s disastrous 2009 season and how it was dealt with.
If it seemed that every game was preceded by a week-long examination of the quarterback position and it’s failings, part of it has to do with the routine of an NFL season and how the the Raiders failed to understand how it works.
Every season I’ve covered the Raiders, quarterbacks have seemed to have an understanding on how to best deal with the publicity demands of the position.
Especially after a bad game, every one of them _ without exception _ would plant themselves in front of their locker on Monday and take questions.
Although he didn’t lose that often, Rich Gannon’s expression was almost defiant, as if to say, `Here I am. Take your best shot.”
Kerry Collins did it, as did Josh McCown, Andrew Walter, Bruce Gradkowski and whoever else had the job.
It wasn’t because they wanted to relive the experience.
They did it because they learned at previous stops that the best way to put a bad game to bed was to be done with it on Monday.
By doing so, their midweek press commitment (usually on Wednesday) became about looking ahead, rather than behind.
Russell almost never talks on Mondays, and decided to hold his weekly press conference in Thursday.
By doing so, after a poor game, the coverage took a familiar tone. On Monday, Russell’s teammates talk about the poor play at quarterback. The player’s day off on Tuesday has residual notes on the same subject. Wednesday might have something different, but on Thursday, Russell finally spoke and the whole issue is dredged up all over again.
Keeping in mind that for print purposes, Monday is for Tuesday, Tuesday is for Wednesday, etc., that means quarterback play becomes a primary focus for nearly the entire week simply because Russell hides out on Monday and doesn’t speak until Thursday.
No one with any clout has sat Russell down and told him how it works.
The Raiders take the position that they don’t owe the media (and by extension, their fans) anything, and operate in a cone of silence, and it’s as painfully inept as the the one The Chief and Maxwell Smart utilized on“Get Smart.”
Which, of course, doesn’t stop the Raiders from feeling persecuted about how the message is conveyed even though they make no professional attempt in conveying it.
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March 17th, 2010 at 8:57 am
I’ll beleive it when I see it……….ON THE FIELD!
March 17th, 2010 at 8:59 am
Yeah, I don’t get the disconnect between the Raiders and the media.
It’s 2010 man!
March 17th, 2010 at 8:59 am
3rd?
March 17th, 2010 at 8:59 am
Russell’s a……..duece!
March 17th, 2010 at 9:00 am
The Al doesn’t feel the need to share anything with the lowly media or the fans who fill his wallet, we’re just not important to him.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:02 am
And I’m sure I’ve had a hat on of a college I didn’t attend, or a company I have no stock in, lol.
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What you don’t own Nike stock,lol???
I did assume, could be wrong, but I hear his younger brother is his right hand man, goes everywhere with him, especially in the Bay.
And if I had to guess your age…..I am rolling with 32.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:03 am
If the reporter wanted JaMarcus to stop and talk, she should have brought a Double Whopper for him.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Vegas, I noticed that too. Um, Eddie Anderson never went to LSU and is a lot bigger than the dude with Russell.
Funny how people can take something and run with it.
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So the old guy at the basketball game with Russell was Eddie Anderson, and not the guy under the LSU hat?
LMFAO at the nit picking we do in here. It is hilarious.
Vegas is waking up his friend now to confirm or discredit a Priest id of Eddie Anderson.
Hilarious stuff man.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:05 am
If the reporter wanted JaMarcus to stop and talk, she should have brought a Double Whopper for him.
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LOL!
March 17th, 2010 at 9:05 am
Comcast SportsNet Bay Area is so Gangsta they stalk the facility.. Jerry why dont you get after it like them?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:06 am
if he needs a babysitter that means he isn’t self-motivated
$9.5 million isn’t enough to diet & exercise for 3-6 months?
Al Davis has to send a company employee to Alabama to make sure he’s not just sitting around the house playing Madden naked eating cheetos …
problem? I say yes.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:06 am
41 bruh, but Thanks!
Now I will say that they guy in the truck looks like a “right hand man” so to speak, lol.
I would have thought that one of our other crack PIs in here would have cracked the case by now, lol.
Sure were a lot of folks who helped me out with who Eddie Anderson is. Surprised no one has chimed in to confirm or deny. I certainly wouldn’t know.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:06 am
“Which, of course, doesn’t stop the Raiders from feeling persecuted about how the message is conveyed even though they make no professional attempt in conveying it.”
Persecuted?
I don’t know, Jerry. Sure, it’s us against the world, but you make it sound like they (the players) are a buncha cry babies.
I’ve never heard players who have a problem with the way Al operates with regards to the media.
If anything, they take an opportunity to ham it up a bit with Al at a presser or make tounge-in-cheek comments to reporters.
I doubt they have a problem with the cloak and dagger stuff. If anything, this is still a players club and Al always has been and will be a players owner.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:07 am
Kate Longworth and a camera man were reduced to chasing alongside Russell to sneak in a few questions about his first offseason conditioning session.
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Kate Longworth has “Raider speed”
March 17th, 2010 at 9:08 am
Russell is a bust.
Who cares if he is in shape?
All he has done is waste $32 million dollars.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:08 am
She may have Raider Speed, but can she catch…..oh wait, that doesn’t matter, she has Raider Speed. The question is: What kind of arm does the camera man have?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:09 am
I can understand what you are saying RRS.
Better late than never. I don’t think it’s that unusual for a pro athlete to hire a personal trainer and dietician.
If the Raiders FINALLY provided one for him, SO WHAT?!?!?
Should have been done BY THE RAIDERS long time ago when they decided to draft his fat arss!
March 17th, 2010 at 9:09 am
I wouldn’t expect a confirm until the afternoon. These hanger-on types aren’t up in these hours, lol.
41?? Damn I was kind of faded, but remember a little bit of a baby-face.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Jhill: you’re almost old enough to be Russell’s dad
if you were, would you just give him a pat on the back (like now) or what advice would you give him?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:11 am
Kate is pretty hot. Check her out at this link…
http://isopixel.net/wp-content/uploads/old/Melissa-Theuriau.jpg
March 17th, 2010 at 9:11 am
The Raiders handling of the media is so archaic.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Russel could drop another 20 lbs. if he’d just take off the Mr T Bling. That would get him down to….265?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Oops…
Sorry wrong link.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Do you really wanna root for a guy that has a diamond encrusted figuring of himself hanging from his neck?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:13 am
figurine
March 17th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Herrera should set up a press conference in JR’s driveway where he can do sit ups for the media…ala TO
March 17th, 2010 at 9:14 am
inonewordraider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Do you really wanna root for a guy that has a diamond encrusted figuring of himself hanging from his neck?
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As long as he throws TD’s I could care less.
3 TD’s and the diamonds?? Easy to hate on.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Jhill: so it’s common practice for teams to hire a personal trainer and dietician for their starting QB during the offseason while the player is away from the club?
i’m not buying it.
prove it…
March 17th, 2010 at 9:15 am
No she was chasing Jamarcus Kate Longworth has “Average Speed”
March 17th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Occasionally Jerry’s meida bias against the Raiders shines thru.
He, like most every other reporter I’m sure, dislikes the Raiders spurning of the media.
Its a tactic to conceal ones motives and agenda and Davis uses it. Plus its a way to dig at a media that often has to cobble together conjecture sometimes based on the wild speculation of bloggers.
Self serving viscious circle or not, ole Al does not like the press.
And by reading some of the people who have to cover him. the feeling is mutual.
Its a hate hate relationship.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:16 am
if you were, would you just give him a pat on the back (like now) or what advice would you give him?
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Yawwwwwn ….
What a hypothetical.
If I were Jamarcus Russell’s dad, I like his father figure Uncle Ray, would have moved in with him. I don’t think you’d be seeing the same guy.
Then again, he would’ve never been fat at the combine, or in college.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:16 am
That would be a short press conference. 1….2… Uh…33, DONE! Whew…That was a workout…..Eddie, pass me a donut….NOW! Damnit!
March 17th, 2010 at 9:17 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Jhill: so it’s common practice for teams to hire a personal trainer and dietician for their starting QB during the offseason while the player is away from the club?
i’m not buying it.
prove it…
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It frikkin should be. I’d write it into the fine print of their contracts that THEY have to pay for it outof their bonus money too.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Russell got the lapband! Next years AFC title game will feature Peyton Manning versus Bruce Gradkowski?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Jhill: so it’s common practice for teams to hire a personal trainer and dietician for their starting QB during the offseason while the player is away from the club?
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No, when did I say it was?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Trade DMAC for Kate Longworth!
March 17th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Herrera should set up a press conference in JR’s driveway where he can do sit ups for the media…ala TO
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yeah! then they should show him jogging around the block with his shirt off waving to kids like Boobie Miles …
March 17th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Yes RRS, Every off season The Saints and The Colts hire a personal trainer for Peyton Manning and Drew Brees. Ya Right! Those guys are self motivated. And those guys are professionals. Jamarcus has shown to be neither. Sad. Very Sad.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:21 am
No, when did I say it was?
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post #17
what else could that have meant?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Yes RRS, Every off season The Saints and The Colts hire a personal trainer for Peyton Manning and Drew Brees. Ya Right!
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G to the P: I know. Jhill knows every excuse in the book! haha
March 17th, 2010 at 9:23 am
It frikkin should be. I’d write it into the fine print of their contracts that THEY have to pay for it outof their bonus money too.
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What a concept. Professional athletes actually being held accountable IN WRITING for being in shape.
Every business I know of has basics things put in place to ensure what they do even has a chance. You know, like a weight room and a strength coach.
Here guys … Use it when you want to. No pressure at all if you don’t want to do it. I trust you’ll be ready to play on Sundays.
Why are only 10 day mandatory of this off season workout? Why aren’t these guys required to work 8-10 hour days all year long like the EMPLOYEES they are?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:24 am
Yawwwwwn ….
What a hypothetical.
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Jhill: nice try avoiding the question. come on. what advice would you give him?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Wimbley at ILB!
WTF is wrong with the team? Play dude at SLB, Keep Scott at WLB, and draft Spikes to play MLB. Add a DT in the draft, and we can have a great Defense. I like Suh, Williams, Odrick, and Houston.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Which, of course, doesn’t stop the Raiders from feeling persecuted about how the message is conveyed even though they make no professional attempt in conveying it.
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Why not giveit the ole media “spin” so the media could rip it apart?
Davis learned not to feed the sharks a long time ago.
The media to Al is not a NECESSARY evil.
Feed them the party line, they shred it and make up their own version anyway.
Tell them nothing and they make up their own version of the truth anyway.
Saves a step for the Raiders.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:25 am
post #17
what else could that have meant?
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You really have to stop with this translating and reading between the lines man. DAMN!
Post 17 says it’s not unusual for a PRO ATHLETE to hire a personal trainer and dietician?
It says what it says, no need to chop it up, rewrite it, and propagandize it.
WTF?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:28 am
What a concept. Professional athletes actually being held accountable IN WRITING for being in shape.
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why should you have to tell a professional athlete to stay in shape? it’s common sense
QB JaMarcus Russell is WR Mike Williams
does a guy that plays QB really think he can show up flabby and unprepared and nobody will notice? does he think it won’t affect his play?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Read the rest of the post, and you have your answer. Feel free to read between the lines of that post.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:29 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 9:24 am
Yawwwwwn ….
What a hypothetical.
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Jhill: nice try avoiding the question. come on. what advice would you give him?
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Ufk the haters.
You know how to play this game.
Ufk the haters.
Work harder than you’ve ever worked before and show them on the field, on the score board and in the win column because the only thing that will save you is them and the only thing that will save them is you.
Right now, you are the Raiders.
Show them.
Show them all and remember, it all goes away once you start winning.
And elocution lessons. For the love of gawd, ennunciate!!!
March 17th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Al’s media war wasn’t an issue when the team was winning…these many years of poor play on the field, half empty stadium and declining season ticket sales. NOW would be a good time to try and create a positive media image…instead we get a cartoon character for an owner, with a Slack Jawed Flunky as his PR person…
March 17th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Trading for Wimbley was a good move, but we still need a MLB. Trade TH & Kirk, and try to add Spikes and a DT in the draft.
As for offense: we need a RT, FB, and OL. We can use the rest of the picks to fix the offense.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Post 17 says it’s not unusual for a PRO ATHLETE to hire a personal trainer and dietician
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but Russell didn’t hire Eddie Anderson. He works for Al Davis
did Russell hire his own personal trainer and dietician? because if he has, nobody knows about it!
March 17th, 2010 at 9:31 am
Raider O Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Wimbley at ILB!
WTF is wrong with the team? Play dude at SLB, Keep Scott at WLB, and draft Spikes to play MLB. Add a DT in the draft, and we can have a great Defense. I like Suh, Williams, Odrick, and Houston.
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In case you hadn’t noticed Davis rarely does what makes “sense” on draft day and even when he does it blows up in his face. (left “guard” Robert Gallery anyone?)
March 17th, 2010 at 9:33 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Post 17 says it’s not unusual for a PRO ATHLETE to hire a personal trainer and dietician
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but Russell didn’t hire Eddie Anderson. He works for Al Davis
did Russell hire his own personal trainer and dietician? because if he has, nobody knows about it!
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For the first few seasons he did.
Most of you may know him simply as “The Colonel”.
“Put some mo’ gravy on that son!”
Ooooh! Sorry JaMarcus, still got your back, just couldn’t resist the shot across the bow.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:34 am
why should you have to tell a professional athlete to stay in shape? it’s common sense
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You would think so, wouldn’t you.
But from the perspective of an OWNER who has an INVESTMENT in something, you be being foolish with your $ if you wrote things off as being accounted for because it was in the “common sense” column.
Look RRS, this is boring man. If you want to run your business assuming your employees have all the common sense things covered, then you are certainly free to do so. If it were my team, guys like Terdell Sands, Langston Walker, Jamarcus Russell, Mike Bush, and all the other fat arsses on the team would have minimum weight clauses, manadatory weight room sessions, etc. EVERYTHING related to their job performance is mandatory!
March 17th, 2010 at 9:34 am
LOL @ N21
Very nice
March 17th, 2010 at 9:35 am
The best thing for Ja(Marcus) Russell to do is be quiet come to work everyday & do everything necessary to show his teammates that he’s recomitted to football & that he’s ready to be the player that was worthy of the #1 pick. By doing this he will earn back the respect of his teammates, wich will translate to better play on field during the season. Then hopefull that’ll put an end to all of the dumb, corny ass cheeseburger & Mr. T bling jokes. Hopefully he’s finally over the lost of his two close family members ( without forgeting them) wich will allow him to concentrate 100% on football and developing a good working relationship with Hue Jackson so he can utilize the God-given talent he has. Handle your business JaMarcus Russell.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:39 am
Fargas better hurry up and find a team before he ends up on our roster again..
March 17th, 2010 at 9:43 am
56. Yup. Get to work son.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:44 am
408RAIDER Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 9:39 am
Fargas better hurry up and find a team before he ends up on our roster again..
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Don’t even joke about that!
March 17th, 2010 at 9:45 am
Guys, who on here thinks the Rams will go Bradford?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Rams will take Bradford, IMO.
And don’t count the Lions out from either trading or taking Eric Berry.
It is the Lions remember.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:47 am
im not going to sit here and say russell was anything that he wasn’t last season. i have one question though. what current NFL quarterback would have done anything with that offensive line? i wont even put the two rookie wrs into the question. yeah murphy improved in the 2nd half of the season, but had a few drops early, and ran poor routes. again the question is: what current NFL quarterback would do anything with that oline. the only two that played halfway decent was henderson, and gallery. that isnt saying much, as henderson played like shyt and gallery was often unable to play.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Rick,
the only thing that will gain Russell respect is his play on the field in games that matter.
did people make fun of Ryan Leaf?
it comes with the territory.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Al had some good drafts, but He gambles & reaches a lot. He loves Atletes!
March 17th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Walter football think Bradford will be the call but says Jimmy “Santa” Clausen should be the pick if they go QB.
Seems to me I’ve heard a thing or two about a Notre Dame QB being “the most NFL ready QB in the draft.” before.
Didn’t he just get traded to Denver?
Clausen may be the safer pick, but no way he’s worth #1 money in St. Louis.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:50 am
new englandraider:
what current NFL quarterback would have outperformed Russell last year?
pick one!
March 17th, 2010 at 9:51 am
62. There were extenuating circumstances.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:51 am
I do Nnamdi … Posted my first mock a few weeks ago. Here’s the latest
Rams – Bradford
Lions – Okung
TB – Suh
Wash – Davis
KC – Claussen
Seat – McCoy
Cleve – Haden
Oak – Bulaga/Dan Williams/Iupati
March 17th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Raider O, Al Davis hasn’t had a good draft in 10 years.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Raider O Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Al had some good drafts, but He gambles & reaches a lot. He loves Atletes!
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Or as Rich Gannon says “Ath-UH-leets!”
March 17th, 2010 at 9:53 am
If healthy, I think Bradford could be a good QB. Very Very accurate thrower.
But when BYU beats you up, you got issues. The NFL is going to be a lot tougher than BYU
March 17th, 2010 at 9:53 am
also i dont get why we question the raiders 1st round picks, outside of dhb of course.
granted they haven’t panned out, but these guys cant see into the future.
russell was a consensus 1st pick of draft. right or wrong?
gallery was allegedly best LT to come around since orlando pace. right or wrong?
huff was considered the “cant miss” of his draft. right or wrong?
mcfadden was considered by many the best RB in that draft. right or wrong?
asomugha he was a reach. most said he was a late 2nd, early 3rd. they did okay with that pick
these guys do not have the benefit of hindsight. good picks, poor results
March 17th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Mike Mitchell at QB could have done better than 3 TD’s & 17 turnovers!
completed under 49 percent of his passes. QB Rating of 50.
benched in favor of Gradkowski, Frye & Losman??
pathetic. no more excuses please!
March 17th, 2010 at 9:53 am
From a marketing standpoint the Rams really dont have much of a choice other than to take Bradford. They took O & D lineman the last two years, now they need a draft pick that’ll put fans in the seats. Coincidentally they need a franchise Qb so Sam Bradford only make sense for them. And now the Detroit signed Corry Williams to play D tackle , somebody’s gona trade up to that #2 spot & take Suh. Al Davis,,handle your business.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Why should Russell change? He has Al Davis by the balls. Al can’t let him go. As soon as Russell’s gone, Kiffin’s laughing his ass off. The thought of that consumes Al. Consumes him.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Nnamdi, does the media make up the standings?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:56 am
Why should Russell change?
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oh I dunno. pride?
March 17th, 2010 at 9:57 am
jhill Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 9:51 am
I do Nnamdi … Posted my first mock a few weeks ago. Here’s the latest
Rams – Bradford
Lions – Okung
TB – Suh
Wash – Davis
KC – Claussen
Seat – McCoy
Cleve – Haden
Oak – Bulaga/Dan Williams/Iupati
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The frist 3 ok, Davis though? And no way KC takes Clausen when they paid Cassel to lead the franchise.
Seattle MAYBE. McCoy could fall to Cleve, but Hayden’s out of shape, slow combine will see him fall even though CBs are at a premium right now (Routt a 1st and a 3rd?!!!)
Bulaga, maybe. Can’t see Davis paying Fat Dan. He just doesn’t take D linemen that high in the draft and he clearly prefers penetrators to 3-4 NT cloggers.
Iupati? Maybe in the 2nd but no one takes interior guys in the 1st. Mangold’s the only one I can think of and he’s an all pro center.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:57 am
rockstar
you have reading comprehension troubles. where in my post does it say what qb would have out performed russell? u have serious issues dude. read it twice if you must. you’re failure to comprehend is unreal. last time i posted i wasn’t gonna dbate mm/dg with you and ignore. i posted nothing after than, and u say, i thought u were going to ignore me. i did, didn;t i? i posted nothing after that. u comprehend nothing, a lump on a log has more brain activity than you. your brain size has got to be infinitesimal
March 17th, 2010 at 10:00 am
RaiderRockstar, what should Russell take pride in?
March 17th, 2010 at 10:00 am
new englandraider: what did that post have to do with Russell?
my point was: even despite the O-Line, WR Corps & play calling any QB would have been better than Russell last year.
thats why I said “pick one”
get it smarty?
March 17th, 2010 at 10:01 am
New England – I hear that argument often. The fact is, there are QBs with quick reads and releases. Look at Aaron Rodgers last year. For a while there, wasn’t he the most sacked QB? Yet he played some pretty good ball. 50 sacks – 103 rating. Roethlisberger was another one.
Look…to be a successful QB, you have to know what will happen before it happens (with respect to the developing play). You have to know what your outlets are. You have to read defenses. You saw Brees last year complete passes to receivers that weren’t even open by simply placing it where only the receiver could get it. Manning is another one. Knows exactly where to go when blitzed or pressured. Rivers. Much as I hate that prick, he’s also very good with the blitz.
Let’s stop with the excuses, alright. Fact is, Russell was garbage last year. If he worked his tail off in the offseason, let’s see what he can bring. You guys like to come to his defense and say that the insults aren’t warranted but let’s not forget that this guy made himself a target. Despite his crappy play, fans wouldn’t have been all over him if he had simply said “yeah, my fault. I need to get better”. No, instead he throws his team under the bus and proclaims that he has no blame. The kid needed to grow up. Let’s see what he has this year.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:02 am
ah…
the infamous cone of silence…
no???
would you believe…
a taco with marinara sauce???
March 17th, 2010 at 10:02 am
what should Russell take pride in?
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himself. his game.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:03 am
dude listen to yourself. if the post had nothing to do with russell, why would say”what quarterback would have out performed RUSELL” and then say pick one.
but the post had nothing to do with russell. are you even aware of what you’re saying bro?
March 17th, 2010 at 10:03 am
How do you know he’s not already proud of himself, Rockstar? Why should he take pride in his game? If his goal is to just get money, he’s accomplishing his goal. He’s proud. What else should he be proud of?
March 17th, 2010 at 10:04 am
Lets draft a tackle with the 8th.
Fix the O line please.
You spent high 1st rounders on offensive weapons, now give them a line.
Fix the O line please.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:05 am
JaMarcus Russell is not a good quarterback. He wasn’t that good in college, just diced apart weaker defenses. Al Davis drafted him because Al Davis wanted him for the few skills he had. Russell wanted money, and made that clear in the ‘07 negotiations. Al could have cut him right then and there. Instead, he folded, and gave him what he wanted. And you guys are blaming Russell? This was a completely preventable situation.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:06 am
Nnamdi,
Washington should take the best available OT
Weiss and Claussen? Can’t teams cut bad contract this year? I remember Haley not being too happy with Cassell and his contract paid him a lot last year to compensate for the Pats francising him.
Haden is going somewhere before we pick. Especially if he runs 4.4 at his pro day today.
Iupati is going in the top 15. Take that one to the bank!
March 17th, 2010 at 10:06 am
i dont get why we question the raiders 1st round picks, outside of dhb of course.
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why DHB?
Heyward-Bey was a rookie last year. Russell has 3 seasons under his belt and you’re still making excuses for him. Why was Russell a good pick & DHB wasn’t?
WR was a need last year, just like QB was in 2007.
lets hear it new englandraider…
March 17th, 2010 at 10:06 am
The Big Banana Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:01 am
New England – I hear that argument often. The fact is, there are QBs with quick reads and releases. Look at Aaron Rodgers last year. For a while there, wasn’t he the most sacked QB? Yet he played some pretty good ball. 50 sacks – 103 rating. Roethlisberger was another one.
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Rogers spent 5 yrs on the bench learing from this era’s Johny Unitas.
Rothlisberger’s had a Super Bowl caliber supporting cast his whole career.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:08 am
#79 was all insults at me. had nothing to do with the subject at hand.
NE: pay attention
thanks
March 17th, 2010 at 10:09 am
rockstar
bottom line is you can put any qb with what we had in our first 10 games, they either get hurt, like grads and frye, or they take a david carr type beatdown. i am in no way saying they would not be better than russell. my grandmother could have done better than he. my point was no matter who is the qb, with that oline, they would not lead us anywhere. go watch games like. the indy/pittsburgh afc title game a few seasons ago. manning looked horrible because his oline failed him. even a recent super bowl, newengland/giants. how did tom brady look when he was under constant duress? how does any nfl qb look when he is constantly pressured?
March 17th, 2010 at 10:11 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:05 am
JaMarcus Russell is not a good quarterback. He wasn’t that good in college, just diced apart weaker defenses. Al Davis drafted him because Al Davis wanted him for the few skills he had. Russell wanted money, and made that clear in the ‘07 negotiations. Al could have cut him right then and there. Instead, he folded, and gave him what he wanted. And you guys are blaming Russell? This was a completely preventable situation
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Revisionist history there.
Granted, he didn’t shine till his Junior year, but Russell was a good QB in college with a 68.9% completion percentage.
Davis drafted him for the “archaic” vertical passing game and got laughed at silly old man! Now the league has 12 teams throwing for 4,000 yds + last year and “Its a vertical League!” all of a sudden.
Davis did not “fold”. Russell eventually signed essentially the same starting offer.
His inept inexperieinced representation was to blame.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Jim Zorn did his best work when he was running for his life…
ancient history… i know…
March 17th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Rogers spent 5 yrs on the bench learing from this era’s Johny Unitas.
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I have no argument with you on that Nnamdi21. And if you look at some of my older posts, you’ll see that I was in favor of having Russell brought along slowly. That one’s on Davis and Cable. When Kiffin was here, he was bringing Russell along slowly and many posters in here criticized it. Now look at what we have on our hands.
And as for Roethlisberger, the Steelers didn’t rely on his arm. Smart move. Our head coach is too stupid to figure that out. “You pass to win”. Not if you have a rookie QB and your running game was top-10 the previous year!!
March 17th, 2010 at 10:11 am
rockstar
again your comprehension issues are getting the better of you. the dhb pick was the only one questioned at the time. you simple minded idiot. why is it so hard for you to comprehend anything. was the dhb pick the only one questioned out of what i mentioned? yes it was moron. nnamdi’s pick was also questioned at the time. you comprehend like a 2nd grade reader. again, i ask, y the fug is it so hard for you to understand anything. bipolar?
March 17th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Calling out JaMarcus’ game is one thing, personal insults are another. I like everyone else said he sucked, but to throw personal insults at him or any other player is lame. I cant stand Al Davis but Im not one of those people wishing death on him. I just think its lame when people spend their entire day calling JaMarcus names that wouldnt dare be said to his face. No man points earned for it.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:12 am
With the Raiders on this one. Eff the media. Why is it that the media feel so deserved of information just because they want it? The media’s work force could be cut by 90% and we would still have the same amount of coverage. In fact it would probobly be better. Face it, most of the media guys are hacks or ex – athletes who don’t want to have to face making a living in the real world like the rest of us have to do everyday.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:12 am
The last offensive line we had, and will ever have, is the one Bruce Allen built a decade ago.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Morning Nation
March 17th, 2010 at 10:14 am
i am not making an excuse for russell. it may seem that way, i get that. maybe i should have been more insightful and just posted
OUR OFFENSIVE LINE SUX.
maybe that is simple enough to follow along
March 17th, 2010 at 10:14 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Raider O, Al Davis hasn’t had a good draft in 10 years.
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I don’t know, the 2008 draft was McFadden, Tyvon Branch, Trev Scott and Chaz Shilens. Only McFadden hasn’t proven anything yet, but his chances have been very limited. Davis didn’t have a 2nd or 3rd rounds picks in this draft. So getting four pretty good players in five late picks seems like a pretty good draft to me.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Does the media make up the standings? Did the media draft JaMarcus Russell?
March 17th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Seymour Bush, you do know that the one sole litmus test as to rather or not a draft was good is results, right? That means when the team starts to win, THEN you can say Al had a good draft in ‘08. So far, the team is showing no signs of it.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Don’t believe in sitting a qb to let him season on the bench. Throw them into the fire. Troy Aikman started from day 1, to his lumps and is now in the Hall Of Fame sporting a couple of rings. Rodgers is already over 30 years old and what has he really acomplished?
March 17th, 2010 at 10:16 am
the dhb pick was the only one questioned at the time.
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how about we go with a 2nd rounder from the same draft?
was that questioned at the time?
you seem to have a love affair with Mike Mitchell and nobody thought he should have been taken that early either!
March 17th, 2010 at 10:16 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:05 am
JaMarcus Russell is not a good quarterback. He wasn’t that good in college, just diced apart weaker defenses. Al Davis drafted him because Al Davis wanted him for the few skills he had. Russell wanted money, and made that clear in the ‘07 negotiations. Al could have cut him right then and there. Instead, he folded, and gave him what he wanted. And you guys are blaming Russell? This was a completely preventable situation
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This is a completely idiotic post that is not worth responding to.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Seymour Bush, you’d have to believe that a good draft in ‘08 at the very least gives you an improvement of ONE WIN in ‘09. At least. Zero improvement from ‘08 to ‘09.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:17 am
OUR OFFENSIVE LINE SUX.
maybe that is simple enough to follow along
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JAMARCUS RUSSELL SUX.
maybe that is simple enough to follow along
March 17th, 2010 at 10:18 am
Russell completed 60 percent or better of his passes against the SEC defenses and he sucked in college. That’s good to know?
March 17th, 2010 at 10:18 am
You guys want Des Bryant as our starting NT? Dan Williams w/ the 8th pick and we could get a quality RT to compete w/ Barnes or G to compete w/ Carlisle in round 2
March 17th, 2010 at 10:18 am
Your whole life is an idiotic post not worth responding too, Seymour.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:18 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Seymour Bush, you do know that the one sole litmus test as to rather or not a draft was good is results, right? That means when the team starts to win, THEN you can say Al had a good draft in ‘08. So far, the team is showing no signs of it.
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Going to the 2008 draft most of those players did not even play or played very sparingly in the 2008 season. Are those player to blame for the losing record, even tho they didn’t play on the field?
March 17th, 2010 at 10:18 am
I know he has had back problems, but I think the Raiders should take a look at Shawn Andrews.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:19 am
jhill Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:06 am
Nnamdi,
Washington should take the best available OT
Weiss and Claussen? Can’t teams cut bad contract this year? I remember Haley not being too happy with Cassell and his contract paid him a lot last year to compensate for the Pats francising him.
Haden is going somewhere before we pick. Especially if he runs 4.4 at his pro day today.
Iupati is going in the top 15. Take that one to the bank!
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Washington should. It will help Campbell be a better QB.
Teams can, but Haley has f-uh-k all to do with Cassel’s hiring or firing. Its GM Scott Pioli who laid out the $63 million dollar deal for the former Pat QB and there is no WAY he’s going to admit defeat one year in and simply ditch the guy.
Theres enough tape of Hayden kicking seri-azz for teams to take him high, but the red flag of not being NFL ready on the biggest stage with millions on the line at the combine SHOULD have teams wary.
No way on earth teams will make the leap for Iupati especially considering his lack of technique, tendency to hold and protection issues. Add to that the fact the mauler will be there for them in the 2nd where he likely belongs.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:19 am
All these prognostications on why all of a sudden JR is “getting serious” or “maturing” or “stepping up”…
Pretty easy on WHY JR’s doing what he’s doing..
*briiiiinnnng*
JR answering phone: “Yo, waddup?”
Agent: “Hey, JR? This is your agent.”
JR: “forget it man, no more money.”
Agent: “No No..talking about this coming season. Hey, uh..you need to get in shape.”
JR: “round is a shape”
agent: NO, I mean you only have 3 mil left that’s guaranteed. The rest of the 9 mil is NOT guaranteed. You either show the Raiders and the NFL that you’re not a sponge and a leech, and at least give them the impression that you’re willing to actually do what every other NFL player does, which is TRY, you’re going to be released.”
JR: “haha..you is funny dude…it’s not my fault. It’s the WR’s fault..dey all no dat. haha..you be trippin man.”
Agent: “JR??? I LIED WHEN I TOLD YOU THAT. It’s actually on YOU. This is called a CONTRACT YEAR. You don’t step up, and lose some weight, and show up like last year, out of shape? slow? gasping for air? fat? YOU WON’T HAVE A CONTRACT..AND NO TEAM WILL PICK YOU UP.
JR: “I ain’t worried.”
Agent: “gonna have to sell your bling then”
JR: *briiiinnnnng*…24 Hr. Fitness?? Yeah..what time you open?
March 17th, 2010 at 10:19 am
MR – No they did not. But when they act all put out because they didn’t get an exclusive interview when they demanded it makes me chuckle for some reason.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:20 am
I know he has had back problems, but I think the Raiders should take a look at Shawn Andrews.
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DMAC: what about Kevin Mawae or Bobbie Williams?
March 17th, 2010 at 10:20 am
The foundation of a football team….
Quarterback: not filled
Offensive line: Incomplete
Defensive front 7: Incomplete
March 17th, 2010 at 10:20 am
see how you comprehend nothing.
we go from questioning 1st round picks to second round picks. i have no love affair with mitchell. i disagreed with your saying he is the 2nd coming of gibson. my response was he has show more in his rookie season than gibson ever showed. right? then you posted that mm had a hand in “most” of the td’s we gave up. right? then i told you, one vs washington. right? then challenged you to name another. right? you still haven’t found one. right?
March 17th, 2010 at 10:21 am
russel is terrible even if he weighed in at 245 and was pure muscle does not mean he can read a defense or has good footwork or Accuracy. he has no knowledge of the game he would have been mediocre at best even if we benched him 3-4 years. but we didn’t even do that and now he is just rotten left overs that needs to be thrown out. JR IS TAINTED. he is no longer any use to anyone!!!!!
March 17th, 2010 at 10:21 am
RR,
I would love to have Mawae take command of our line. Don’t know much about Williams.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Seymour, fair enough. But then how can you declare a draft “good” when the players haven’t played yet? We haven’t seen what they can do at this level, and you’re declaring it a good draft? Based on what? They take good pictures?
March 17th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Mitchell is a player. Get over it…
March 17th, 2010 at 10:22 am
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:16 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:05 am
JaMarcus Russell is not a good quarterback. He wasn’t that good in college, just diced apart weaker defenses. Al Davis drafted him because Al Davis wanted him for the few skills he had. Russell wanted money, and made that clear in the ‘07 negotiations. Al could have cut him right then and there. Instead, he folded, and gave him what he wanted. And you guys are blaming Russell? This was a completely preventable situation
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This is a completely idiotic post that is not worth responding to.
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And yet you, with head firmly inserted up your cross posting ass, did exactly what you said it was not worth doing…responding to it.
You do abuse the right to be stupid..don’t you, Oakglen?
March 17th, 2010 at 10:23 am
JaMarcus doesnt need to be in front of the media right now. That just an attempt for the media to pick him apart, the only thing we needed to know is if he had taken care of his weight issues in wich he apparently did. Now the only thing he should be doing is get aquainted with Hue and the new playbook. Plus we know information will get leaked through players speaking on anonymity anyway, so we’ll find out if JaMarcus is making progress or not.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:24 am
post 125
you’re not the only one who believes this. not one person, not one has agreed that mike mitchell is the 2nd coming of gibson. not one. only rockstar. gibson was beat for big plays game in and game out. mitchell hasn’t. one reason for that is he wasn’t asked to cover hardly at all
March 17th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Seymour, I’m rich. Well, I’m really not, but I’m going to be someday. That’s how you sound when you say we had a good draft in ‘08. There’s no way of telling until they take the field. And even then, there has to be results. The object of this game is to win, not have a few players with good individual stats.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:26 am
# Pretty Rick Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Calling out JaMarcus’ game is one thing, personal insults are another. I like everyone else said he sucked, but to throw personal insults at him or any other player is lame. I cant stand# Pretty Rick Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Calling out JaMarcus’ game is one thing, personal insults are another. I like everyone else said he sucked, but to throw personal insults at him or any other player is lame. I cant stand Al Davis but Im not one of those people wishing death on him. I just think its lame when people spend their entire day calling JaMarcus names that wouldnt dare be said to his face. No man points earned for it.
Al Davis but Im not one of those people wishing death on him. I just think its lame when people spend their entire day calling JaMarcus names that wouldnt dare be said to his face. No man points earned for it.
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awww…aren’t you just as sweet as you can be?
“don’t call names” “be nice” “treat others like you want to be treated”.
Kindergarten was so much fun..I miss it too.
good luck in 1st grade..it gets harder.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:26 am
new englandraider: just because somebody doesn’t agree with you doesn’t mean that they “comprehend nothing”
why do you feel the need to insult people on an internet blog? is your life that empty?
who cares what people thought of the DHB selection? just because Kiper, McShay, etc thought he was a reach doesn’t mean he won’t eventually become a player. I’ve seen enough of Russell in 3 seasons to write him off, but DHB’s rookie season doesn’t show me everything he’s capable of.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:27 am
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March 17th, 2010 at 10:28 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:20 am
I know he has had back problems, but I think the Raiders should take a look at Shawn Andrews.
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DMAC: what about Kevin Mawae or Bobbie Williams?
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Andrews with back problems and a head case. NO more bipolar linemen please. Robbins was enuff.
Mawae, as President of the NFLPA will neverbe allowed near the Raiders facility.
Seriously though, if he’s got anything in the tank we should take him.
we need a center!!!
March 17th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Florida CB Joe Haden reportedly timed in the mid-4.4 range on both of his forty-yard dash runs at the Gators’ Pro Day.
Source: TFY Draft Insider
WATCH OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!
You know He got’s Al attention now!
March 17th, 2010 at 10:30 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Seymour, I’m rich. Well, I’m really not, but I’m going to be someday.
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But didn’t you know that Oakglen is “rich”?
Ya…he graduated at 20.
bought a mansion at 19.
When asked how he stated “how do you know I wasn’t a rock star when I was 18?”
Because yeah..that makes sense…sure…that’s just how it works…in fantasy land.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Mawae, as President of the NFLPA will never be allowed near the Raiders facility.
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LOL. you’re probably right, but he should be!
March 17th, 2010 at 10:30 am
dude if we agree or not is not the issue man.
another poster said our 1st round picks have not been good
the picks have been fine
the players have not.
i simply said: at the time of the sections, of RUSSELL, MCFADDEN, HUFF AND GALLERY they were considered good picks. right?
March 17th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Why should Russell take care of his weight issues? He’s getting paid no matter what. He’s only in his early 20s. The only reason he has to lose weight is for his health. He doesn’t care about football, and why should he? Al Davis is going to pay him no matter what. He has Al by the balls. Al will never get rid of him because as soon as he does, Kiffin wins. Al is more concerned about that than anything, especially more than he is winning.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:31 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Seymour, I’m rich. Well, I’m really not, but I’m going to be someday. That’s how you sound when you say we had a good draft in ‘08. There’s no way of telling until they take the field. And even then, there has to be results. The object of this game is to win, not have a few players with good individual stats.
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See, there you just contradicted yourself. Normally it takes years to evaluate a draft. Yet, people here and prognosticators around the globe do it the second the draft has happened. While I do agree with you that the final deciding factor of the success of a football team is it’s won loss record, you couldn’t say Peyton Manning was a bad player his lst few years in the league or the GM was a fool, because he did not immediately post 14 win seasons. That would be just plain nutty.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:32 am
That bish-ochet is one raving f’ing lunatic isn’t he? Thats a serious psychopath with mental issues and I’m NOT kidding.
Thanks for all the in depth well thought out FOOTBALL insight there nut jawb.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:33 am
Wacky it is time for you to go. Don’t you have a business to run? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. And BTW, No one cares what you think.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:33 am
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Mawae, as President of the NFLPA will never be allowed near the Raiders facility.
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LOL. you’re probably right, but he should be!
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He’d crap and go blind!
Think Raider camp = Major League.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:33 am
Seymour, yes, it could take years to evaluate a draft. But see, you already declared ‘08 a good draft. So, for some odd reason, it only took you TWO YEARS to evaluate our ‘08 draft. Evidently you don’t need “years”, so to speak. And my point is, again, how can you declare a draft to be good when there’s been no results on the field to speak of? Again, YOU said we had a good draft in ‘o8. Based upon what?
March 17th, 2010 at 10:34 am
no successful veteran player that still can contribute to a team will want to come to oakland willingly. i mean if i had a good run in the nfl and still were playing at a high level i wouldn’t waist my last few seasons helping a team who has been no better than 5-11 in 7 years!
March 17th, 2010 at 10:34 am
It’s 10;30 on the west coast. I can see you busy “running your business.” What business is that? Did your mommie give you a to do list? What did you have to do today, wacky? Clean out the cat’s box?
March 17th, 2010 at 10:35 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Why should Russell take care of his weight issues? He’s getting paid no matter what. He’s only in his early 20s. The only reason he has to lose weight is for his health. He doesn’t care about football, and why should he? Al Davis is going to pay him no matter what. He has Al by the balls. Al will never get rid of him because as soon as he does, Kiffin wins. Al is more concerned about that than anything, especially more than he is winning.
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Gonna start beating that dead horse again aye? You already posted essentially the same thing already.
You know what Russell has to gain?
NOT being the biggest bust inthe history of pro sports. THATS what.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:36 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:33 am
Seymour, yes, it could take years to evaluate a draft. But see, you already declared ‘08 a good draft. So, for some odd reason, it only took you TWO YEARS to evaluate our ‘08 draft. Evidently you don’t need “years”, so to speak. And my point is, again, how can you declare a draft to be good when there’s been no results on the field to speak of? Again, YOU said we had a good draft in ‘o8. Based upon what?
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Stats and progression.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:36 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:33 am
Seymour, yes, it could take years to evaluate a draft. But see, you already declared ‘08 a good draft. So, for some odd reason, it only took you TWO YEARS to evaluate our ‘08 draft. Evidently you don’t need “years”, so to speak. And my point is, again, how can you declare a draft to be good when there’s been no results on the field to speak of? Again, YOU said we had a good draft in ‘o8. Based upon what?
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Based on their production on the field. And yes, some of those players have played better than expected in a short time. In fact all other than Dmac have. Dmac will have his chance in 2010.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:36 am
also, i do not care about disagreements. this would be a sorry site, if we all agreed. how can anyone agree with the statement of “MIKE MITCHELL was one of several players that had a hand in giving up MOST of the td’s”. he gave up one. that is a fact. therefore there should be no disagreeing. there were no others. so how can anyone who watched the games agree with that statement bro? if one has seen all the games, they will tell you that mitchell gave up 1, and only 1 td in coverage. one does not qualify as “MOST”
March 17th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Enjoy the day Raider nation!
Got your back still Russell.
Lets make it happen baby!
March 17th, 2010 at 10:37 am
With the #8 pick in the draft Oakland selects…………….Taylor Mays from USC
March 17th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Why does Russell have to worry about being a bust? What makes you think he cares? I know that matters to fans, and the press, but why should it matter to him? He’s getting paid no matter what. Al Davis is never getting rid of Russell. Soon as he does, Kiffin gets the last laugh. Al Davis will prevent that for as long as he lives. Russell might be here for 15 years, getting paid a tip tier salary.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:38 am
149. TRUE. Just the one and he really should’ve had help. Seemed like Chris Johnson was looking in the back field.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:38 am
What stats and progression, Seymour? you said yourself they haven’t played yet, remember? How can you possibly say a draft was good, based upon stats and “progression”, when the players have no work to be judged on? Remember, YOU said they haven’t played yet. That’s what you said in response to my point about us not improving from ‘08 to ‘09.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:39 am
i hope not^^^^^^ #152
March 17th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Ricochet, That was cute. You win. Feel better?
March 17th, 2010 at 10:40 am
inonewordraider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:37 am
With the #8 pick in the draft Oakland selects…………….Taylor Mays from USC
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And moves Branch to CB or converts Mays to LB.
Please gawd, fix the O line with the 8th…Williams, Bulaga?
March 17th, 2010 at 10:41 am
JaSizzler is such an enormous tub-o-lard, that the story of him possibly losing five pounds is breaking news. Just cut this b1tch, declare Gradkowski the starter, and draft a QB in the 4th round. Oh, wait. I forgot, that’s what a competent organization would do.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Keep hoping, Jonesy. Do you honestly think Al Davis will ever let Kiffin get the last laugh on Russell? As long as Russell’s a live, there’s a chance for him to finally start playing good and proving Kiffin wrong, as far as Al’s concerned. Do you remember that press conference when he fired Kiffin? Have you ever seen a press conference like that before when a HC was fired? This is more important to Al Davis than ANYTHING on the planet.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:41 am
What if it turns our Russell has only lost weight in his face? Then what?
March 17th, 2010 at 10:43 am
nnamdi21
i know what im saying. in no way am i dumb enough to say that gallery, huff, dmac, and especially russell, have amounted to anything. i was just saying that at the time of the respective drafts, they were all considered good picks.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:43 am
well if i see russel on the street some time in the future ill kick him straight in the balls. For not trying and wasting all that money big Al could have donated to all his loyal fans!!!
March 17th, 2010 at 10:45 am
#160 hahahaha lol thats to funny!
March 17th, 2010 at 10:45 am
You’ll kick Russell in the balls? Not if he has his entourage with him, you won’t. And he doesn’t go anywhere in public without them.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:46 am
nnamdi
actually on the td vs wash, asomugha was in the end zone behind mitchell, in some sort of a weird zone type pre snap look. asomugha sprinted towards the miidle of the dline and mitchell let the receiver go, probably thinking nnamdi was there. rookie mistake? probably. who knows if nnamdi was supposed to vacate that area. but that is the only td mitchell was even remotely responsible for giving up. he blitzed more than anything
March 17th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Florida ILB Brandon Spikes was unable to break 5.0 seconds in the forty-yard dash at the Gators’ Wednesday Pro Day.
Source: TFY Draft Insider
This guy might drop to a early third round.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:48 am
I don’t know Jonesy. But, I’ll be rooting for his foot to find the sweet spot.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:48 am
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# new englandraider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:43 am
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i know what im saying. in no way am i dumb enough to say that gallery, huff, dmac, and especially russell, have amounted to anything. i was just saying that at the time of the respective drafts, they were all considered good picks.
i agree i was fine with all of those picks at the time Except russel (wanted AP) but i excepted the pick and deff thought they would have panned out a little better than they did thats for sure. especially Huff he was awesome in college!
March 17th, 2010 at 10:49 am
You KNOW I’m just going to embarrass you, right Oakglen?
Yeah, I do own my own business.
Read it s l o w l y.
I OWN IT.
I’m the boss. I do what I want, when I want, how long as I want..AS LONG AS I TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS.
Some days? It’s behind a desk..sometimes making calls in morning, like now..other days not at all..my choice. Some days it’s dealing with the mountains of paperwork that need my attention…
Now, MORON, let me proceed to rub salt in your lying cross posting sorryasses wounds..
10:00 AM. couple minutes posting..58 minutes of production…you IDIOT.
hour of 11:00 TWO POSTS..in an hour, lol…you dumbass..took a few minutes probably..55 min of PRODUCTION
hour of noon: ONE POST until the last couple minutes…50 min of PRODUCTION cross posting fool
Hour of 1:00..sat and had lunch…make some calls…and smacked your sorry inept ass around for the hour, give or take…see..my choice..I’M THE BOSS…wasted an hour..no biggee
Hour of 2:00..busy..one post..conference call..meeting with couple of pain in ass directors
hour of 3:00..BUSY..ONE POST, YOU MORON..
hour of 4:00…BUSY…NO POSTS DUMBASS
hour of 5:00…busy….NO POSTS EVEN IF I WANTED TO..YOU LYING CROSS POSTING WASTE OF PHLEGM
So, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE 1:00 HOUR, I had a dozen or so posts between 8:00 AM and 6:00 PM..YOU DUMBASS.
honestly, you fool, you didn’t think I would point that out? lol…damn Oakglen..it’s like slapping around a little 8 year old ugly redhead.
You didn’t expect anything different, did you?
I OWN YOUR ASS, AND THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE…regardless of how many different handles you post as…LOSER.
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March 17th, 2010 at 10:27 am
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So this guy runs his own business yet somehow has all day Friday to spend trolling. Right. Get out of here you lying sack of sh**.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:49 am
Trade DMAC for Joe Rudi and Rickey Henderson!
Al love breaking down racial barriers.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:50 am
RTs need to create holes for RBs when Mario Henderson is suited more for pass protection and Khalif Barnes hasn’t given any sign of being a competent RT. So we have adequate competition at LT with a definite need for a RT and I’m not convinced Al’s going RT with the 8th pick with the glaring need for a NT
March 17th, 2010 at 10:51 am
jonesy941 Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:43 am
well if i see russel on the street some time in the future ill kick him straight in the balls. For not trying and wasting all that money big Al could have donated to all his loyal fans!!!
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I like the sentiment, but unfortunately JaBisquick’s flabby, disgusting gunt hangs over his groin and will effectively block your foot.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:54 am
of our starting d only Seymour and Johnson weren’t drafted or signed as undrafted FA by Al
March 17th, 2010 at 10:54 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Keep hoping, Jonesy. Do you honestly think Al Davis will ever let Kiffin get the last laugh on Russell? As long as Russell’s a live, there’s a chance for him to finally start playing good and proving Kiffin wrong, as far as Al’s concerned. Do you remember that press conference when he fired Kiffin? Have you ever seen a press conference like that before when a HC was fired? This is more important to Al Davis than ANYTHING on the planet.
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And this IS the crux of it all, in a nutshell.
Al releasing JR, and absorbing the 3 mil?
WOULD BE LIKE ANOINTING KIFFIN KING..and admitting that Al was wrong, Kiffin was right, and JR is as Kiffin warned, a wasted draft pick.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:54 am
# jonesy941 Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:43 am
well if i see russel on the street some time in the future ill kick him straight in the balls. For not trying and wasting all that money big Al could have donated to all his loyal fans!!!
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Sorry dude. . . .”loyal” fans my ass. The number of “loyal” Raider fans dwindles more and more every year.
I see that plain and clear from my seat at the Coliseum.
“loyal” fans have every right to be pissed and every right to criticize.
But root for your damn team and its players. Otherwise, at least don’t refer to yourself (not you personally) as “loyal”.
I’d love for JaMarcus to truly get his career on track, not just for his sake and the Raiders in general, but also just to see how all the “JaBustas” idiots around here start to change their tune.
They’ll all suddenly become “loyal” again.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:54 am
(Either you love him or you hate him)
Florida QB Tim Tebow reportedly showed unimpressive arm strength with his new throwing motion at Wednesday’s Pro Day.
Source: SI.com
March 17th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:49 am
Trade DMAC for Joe Rudi and Rickey Henderson!
Al love breaking down racial barriers.
who the hell are those guys!
March 17th, 2010 at 10:56 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:41 am
“. . .this is more important to Al Davis than ANYTHING on the planet.”
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Yeah, o.k. – Al Davis’ sole mission in life is to stick it to Lane Kiffin.
You truly are a buffoon.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Saw Rickey at the Warriors game the other night.
Great Rickey story:
When he played for the Padres, he hoped aboard the team bus and was going to the back end of the bus. Bruce Bochy stopped him and said, “Rickey, you don’t need to go to the back of the bus, you get tenure in this league.”
Ricky brushed him off and said, “Ten year?? Ricky got twenty years in this league”
March 17th, 2010 at 11:00 am
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:54 am
# jonesy941 Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:43 am
well if i see russel on the street some time in the future ill kick him straight in the balls. For not trying and wasting all that money big Al could have donated to all his loyal fans!!!
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Sorry dude. . . .”loyal” fans my ass. The number of “loyal” Raider fans dwindles more and more every year.
I see that plain and clear from my seat at the Coliseum.
“loyal” fans have every right to be pissed and every right to criticize.
But root for your damn team and its players. Otherwise, at least don’t refer to yourself (not you personally) as “loyal”.
I’d love for JaMarcus to truly get his career on track, not just for his sake and the Raiders in general, but also just to see how all the “JaBustas” idiots around here start to change their tune.
They’ll all suddenly become “loyal” again.
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Oh geez…there’s Silver N Spineless getting confused again.
Bad news for ya..STICKING WITH YOUR TEAM IS WHAT LOYAL MEANS.
Just laying down like a worm, and accepting everything thrown at you, while continuing to hand over money, while meekly saying NOTHING makes you a lemming, and a coward.
YOU BUY A PRODUCT, YOU SHOULD DEMAND A RETURN FOR YOUR INVESTMENT…why the hell would you demand a car you bought actually run, milk you buy actually not be sour, clothes you buy not be torn, but not expect the same quality from a entertainment venue you PAY MONEY TO SEE??
You go to a movie..pay money..and if it sucks…people BOO.
Go to a fight..pay money…guy tanks…PEOPLE BOO.
And if you go and pay money to see athletes perform, and they SUCK AT IT, EITHER YOU LET THEM KNOW, OR YOU CRAWL UNDER A ROCK AND WAIT FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO DO YOUR JOB FOR YOU.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:03 am
well russel or not i will bleed silver and black forever. and will never jump off the wagon IF we have one anymore not sure but as for russel my feelings will not change. CUT OUR LOSSES and move on. i know some want to see him finally succeed but it prob will not happen and we already waisted 3 years with this stupid qb fiasco. its not hard to see he is not nfl quality player especially a QB he has no heart no love of the game or desire to win or succeed and you can see it in the games he plays it a lost cause.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
yes i want a reimbursement on the russel pick did Al save that god damn recite?
March 17th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Russell’s offseason conditioning program consisted of…..liposuction of his jowls.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:08 am
# Pile-o-crap Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Oh geez…there’s Silver N Spineless getting confused again.
Bad news for ya..STICKING WITH YOUR TEAM IS WHAT LOYAL MEANS.
Just laying down like a worm, and accepting everything thrown at you, while continuing to hand over money, while meekly saying NOTHING makes you a lemming, and a coward.
YOU BUY A PRODUCT, YOU SHOULD DEMAND A RETURN FOR YOUR INVESTMENT…why the hell would you demand a car you bought actually run, milk you buy actually not be sour, clothes you buy not be torn, but not expect the same quality from a entertainment venue you PAY MONEY TO SEE??
You go to a movie..pay money..and if it sucks…people BOO.
Go to a fight..pay money…guy tanks…PEOPLE BOO.
And if you go and pay money to see athletes perform, and they SUCK AT IT, EITHER YOU LET THEM KNOW, OR YOU CRAWL UNDER A ROCK AND WAIT FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO DO YOUR JOB FOR YOU.
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“Sticking with your team”???? Is that what you call yourself doing? Because you get on an internet blog every day to bash “your team”, this is your idea of “sticking with your team”????
Loyal my ass.
Getting on here and referring to a player as “JaWalrus” or “JaBustus” and seeing how funny you can be. . . .
That’s “sticking with your team”?
Loyal my ass. Again.
And no dumbass, by watching the Raiders or attending their games, you are NOT buying the product. Sure, you affect ticket prices and player salaries. But you’re not buying shiot. Nothing is owed to you.
Buying an NFL ticket is no different than buying a stock. You hope for a good result but you have absolutely no say in the outcome.
The team owes you Jack. Don’t go to the games, don’t buy merchandise, don’t watch on TV.
The result?
Players get paid less, teams make less money. But guess what? They still don’t OWE you anything. Do all those things and there’s no gun to anyone’s head saying “give Richocrap a good team or else”.
Get it “peanut”?
Glad to hear that “booing” at your local movie theater gives you a hardd-on.
Keep it “up”.
Peanut.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:09 am
LMFAO knowing Oakglen is spending this whole time searching other days to post my times…
Uh..anything on Monday, Oakglen? Naw…I was busy pretty much all day monday.
Anything on Tuesday, Oakglen? Naw…I was pretty much busy most of Tuesday as well…
Well hell…in between practicing for your rock band gigs, (yeah, dumbass, that’s arguably the dumbest thing you’ve ever stated on here) and collecting recyclables from trash cans, spending your time following me is becoming a full time job for you, OakDork.
good for you, pumpkin…glad I can help.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:10 am
haha and hopefully a dentist replaced all his teeth with skittles so that he does not have to worry about the bag sliding down his pants when he plays!
March 17th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 11:08 am “Sticking with your team”???? Is that what you call yourself doing? Because you get on an internet blog every day to bash “your team”, this is your idea of “sticking with your team”????
Loyal my ass.
Getting on here and referring to a player as “JaWalrus” or “JaBustus” and seeing how funny you can be. . . .
That’s “sticking with your team”?
Loyal my ass. Again.
And no dumbass, by watching the Raiders or attending their games, you are NOT buying the product. Sure, you affect ticket prices and player salaries. But you’re not buying shiot. Nothing is owed to you.
Buying an NFL ticket is no different than buying a stock. You hope for a good result but you have absolutely no say in the outcome.
The team owes you Jack. Don’t go to the games, don’t buy merchandise, don’t watch on TV.
The result?
Players get paid less, teams make less money. But guess what? They still don’t OWE you anything. Do all those things and there’s no gun to anyone’s head saying “give Richocrap a good team or else”.
Get it “peanut”?
Glad to hear that “booing” at your local movie theater gives you a hardd-on.
Keep it “up”.
Peanut.
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so what your saying is i have to come on here and talk good about people who play on my favorite team and give my favorite team a worse reputation then they had or whatever even though these people may suck terribly i cant give you my opinion on them. and that makes us less of fans why?
March 17th, 2010 at 11:18 am
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how do we go from talking about DHB & Mike Mitchell being consensus “reaches” to drudging up the Mitchell in covrage debate?
two seperate debates NE. the coverage one is at least 3 weeks old
again, who gives a crap if the draft “experts” thought Russell & McFadden were good picks, but DHB was a bad one?
I’d be very surprised if DHB has as bad a soph season as JR or DMC
March 17th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Silver-n-Smac,
You and I have always gotten along, but I’m going to have to call B.S. on you today. I’ve never seen Richochet “bash” the team. I’ve seen him talk about how players have failed, how Al has made retardedly bad decisions, and how we, the fans, have been cheated of what we’ve come to expect not only from the Raiders, but from ANY competent sports team… but I’ve never seen him BASH the team. Pointing out where we’ve screwed up is the only way to FIX IT and get back on track. That’s not bashing, that’s trying to help.
When your mom or dad yelled at you for repeatedly playing with the stove knobs, they weren’t “bashing” you, they were helping in an angry, frustrated tone.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Safety Michael Mitchell said he is healthy again after a injury-smacked rookie season. “The second season will be better,” Mitchell said.
-David White (SF Gate)
03/15/2010
March 17th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Voicing your concern about Al Davis and the schytty players on the team IS being loyal to the team. Remember, no matter what these fools want you to believe, Al Davis is not the team. He wasn’t here when they started and they will go on long after he is worm schyt.
If you care about the TEAM, you would be voicing concerns over our GMs inability to field a winning team.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Oh, and btw:
Good afternoon (2:23pm here in Va), Raiders fans!
How is everyone this fine Saint Patrick’s Day?
March 17th, 2010 at 11:23 am
“Do you really wanna root for a guy that has a diamond encrusted figuring of himself hanging from his neck?”
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No, but I do like the image of Russell hanging.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:24 am
# Silver-n-Spineless Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 11:08 am
“Sticking with your team”???? Is that what you call yourself doing? Because you get on an internet blog every day to bash “your team”, this is your idea of “sticking with your team”????
RICHOCHET: Wrong..I bash idiots like you that stupidly feel you’re loyal if you DON’T HAVE A SPINE..that you’re a good fan if you just BEND OVER WHEN AL TELLS YOU TO. That’s what spineless fans do..just go along, like a fool.
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Getting on here and referring to a player as “JaWalrus” or “JaBustus” and seeing how funny you can be. . . .
RICHOCHET: wrong..AGAIN. I don’t call him “JaWalrus”..NEVER HAVE. I call him “JaMongoAss” or “JaBlubberButt” or “JaQuadraphonicButtCheeks”..get it right.
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And no dumbass, by watching the Raiders or attending their games, you are NOT buying the product. Sure, you affect ticket prices and player salaries. But you’re not buying shiot. Nothing is owed to you.
RICHOCHET: bull**** you sorry excuse for a man. YOU’RE BUYING EXACTLY THE PRODUCT. YOU’RE PAYING FOR A SHOW..it’s entertainment, you dumbass. YOU’RE PAYING TO SEE A GROUP OF PLAYERS, PLAYING AT THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY, WITH THE SOLE INTENT OF WINNING GAMES. When that’s NOT done, and you just lay down like a sorry wimp, like YOU DO, then you should just send in a check, and stay home. It’s when people make it clear they are NOT happy with the product is when things get done. YEAH, DUMBASS, PEOPLE STAYING AWAY SEND THE MESSAGE LOUD AND CLEAR..and those that already paid for their season tickets? What?? They should just be like you? A spineless worm? Just lay there and bend over?
You’re a sorry excuse for a woman, much less a man.
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Buying an NFL ticket is no different than buying a stock. You hope for a good result but you have absolutely no say in the outcome.
RICHOCHET: This proves you don’t have a clue. What? You did ditches? Work a factory line? YOU’RE SAYING STOCK HOLDERS DON’T HAVE SAY IN A STOCK? Go ask Jerry Yang from Yahoo about that..you dumbass. I own both Yahoo and Microsoft stock, and you can bet damn well I have a say in what’s going on with my investment..IT’S CALLED SHARE HOLDER MEETINGS..and every year you get a packet to vote exactly how you feel the directors are doing, and WHO SHOULD RETURN TO HANDLE YOUR INVESTMENTS (the company).
IF THE RAIDERS WERE A PUBLICLY HELD CORPORATION, AL DAVIS WOULD HAVE BEEN OUSTED DECADES AGO.
Yeah, moron…and that’s exactly the point.
Al can’t be ousted..and according to you, either just lay down like puppys and accept Al’s head up ass decisions, or go away…well..the other option TO REAL FANS..THE LOYAL FANS..IS TO NOT LAY DOWN LIKE LITTLE BEYOTCHES, AND JUST TAKE IT..like you do.
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The team owes you Jack. Don’t go to the games, don’t buy merchandise, don’t watch on TV.
The result?
RICHOCHET: The result is PLAYERS DON’T WANT TO PLAY FOR THE TEAM…COACHES DON’T WANT TO COACH THE TEAM..FANS DON’T WANT TO WATCH THE TEAM..team becomes the laughingstock of the league..other teams can’t wait to play them, knowing it’s going to be an easy win..the organization goes down as one of the worst run in any sport…
AND THAT’S WHAT’S GOING ON, YOU SPINELESS WORM.
And according to you…JUST TAKE IT. Don’t say “anything..because a loyal fan just BENDS OVER AND TAKES IT”???
You’re the worst kind of fan there is…one WHO DOES NOTHING.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:25 am
I’ll be really interested in watching Mitchell next season. Oh, by the way, it looks like our QB has finally found love…
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,431616,00.html
March 17th, 2010 at 11:25 am
hey there Steve!
what do you know buddy?
March 17th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Chargers GM A.J. Smith here at Fresno State pro day, checking out stud RB Ryan Mathews. 49ers, Raiders scouts here too
-David White (twitter)
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uh oh! who didn’t see this coming?
March 17th, 2010 at 11:27 am
man, I am glad Anderson signed with the Cards and not the Raiders…only QB with a worse game than Russell last year!
March 17th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Hey RR,
I keep hearing a lot of guys talking about drafting Spoon. Does he have uncle Al speed? 40 time?
March 17th, 2010 at 11:28 am
rockstar
lmfao. you’re are certifiable man. now you’re asking how we went from dhb to mitchell?
lets see
we were talking about draft picks
i said the only 1st round pick recently that was scrutinized at the time was dhb.
u responded by bringing up mike mitchell.
remember?
so does that answer your question of how we wound up talking about mitchell
YOU brought him up
even more evidence that you have no idea what you’re reading, now you have no idea what you’re even posting
do you feel me man.
you brought up mitchell, did u not?
then ask how we went from dhb to mitchell
are you alright man? seriously.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:29 am
I want Mathews on the team dammit!
March 17th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Howdy RRs, Vegas, Silver, and Mr. O’Shea!
It was a long Thursday-Monday for me… I drove more than 2200 miles in that period of time. It was quite enjoyable, though. The benefits were well worth the investment. Hopefully I didn’t miss anything of value here, but even if I had, I doubt there’s anything on the blog that would validate being here instead of doing what I was doing IRL. How’s life for others? What do y’all think of our new LB (who I think will be converted to DE, with Seymore shifted to DT)?
March 17th, 2010 at 11:30 am
RR,
Could the raiders be shopping Bush?
March 17th, 2010 at 11:30 am
we weren’t discussing dhb and mitchell being reaches
you were. i was talking about 1st round picks only
March 17th, 2010 at 11:31 am
If this TRULY is going to be an open competition for QB, then I don’t see Russell being able to beat out ANYBODY for the job. He is THAT BAD, and the NFL has exposed him to be the charlatan he is.
I would bet that Russell is investing poorly and is spending way too much of his $, based on the thought he will get another big pay day to make up for it. Guess what? That payday will NEVER come.
Enjoy while it lasts JaJackass.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:31 am
*Seymour*
I ALWAYS make that typo…
March 17th, 2010 at 11:33 am
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rockstar. was that post meant to back up your statement that mitchell is injury prone? you were right on that one. he is very injury prone. that’s why he missed all those games….. oh wait, he dressed for all 16. nevermind.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Yeah, I see how far your NOT “taking it” has gotten you.
Dumbass.
I see how far your little billboards have gotten you.
Dumbass.
We’re talking about football here. Explain to me how far all your biotching, joking, fire-spitting comments about Davis or any of the players has gotten you. . . TOUGH GUY.
Yeah, I’m a spineless worm because I find a way to maintain the ability to enjoy watching my team every Sunday, regardless of the record.
Go ahead and drown yourself in misery of that makes you feel “TOUGH”.
Glad to know all your efforts have made such a drastic improvement over the past 7 years.
Hope you can find a way to smile every now and again, until Al gives you what you want and dies.
Until then. . . .. go get’em Tough Guy.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:36 am
NE: I didn’t ask how we went from DHB to Mitchell.
I asked how we went from reaches to cover skills.
2 different topics in my book…
and (once again) quit with all the personal crap.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:38 am
wow. a 3rd topic …
Mitchell’s injury status
how many do you want to juggle at the same time NE?
March 17th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Wimbley didn’t do much last year, although Browns fans tend to think he was misused.
He had 2 tackles, 0 FL, 0 sacks, 0 FF against the Raiders in that game.
The rest of the season was kind of up and down.
Hopefully this guy can put in work and Haluchuck can find the best ways to use him (seemed to in 06).
March 17th, 2010 at 11:38 am
The Raiders take the position that they don’t owe the media (and by extension, their fans) anything, and operate in a cone of silence, and it’s as painfully inept as the the one The Chief and Maxwell Smart utilized on“Get Smart.”
Which, of course, doesn’t stop the Raiders from feeling persecuted about how the message is conveyed even though they make no professional attempt in conveying it.
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The dis organizations attitude that they don’t owe the fans anything speaks volumes about how stupid and lame Al Davis, John Herrera, Amy Trask and the rest of cronies are.
Can wait for them ALL to be replaced!
All in due time! LOL
March 17th, 2010 at 11:40 am
Anybody else think Al will actually go and get a run stuffing MLB and DT, some O Linemen and a fast guy or two?
Progress in 2010.
8 wins.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:40 am
we weren’t discussing dhb and mitchell being reaches
you were. i was talking about 1st round picks only
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read my comment regarding the following again.
“who gives a crap if the draft “experts” thought Russell & McFadden were good picks, but DHB was a bad one?
I’d be very surprised if DHB has as bad a soph season as JR or DMC”
still waiting for a response …
March 17th, 2010 at 11:40 am
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March 17th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Wimbley didn’t do much last year, although Browns fans tend to think he was misused.
He had 2 tackles, 0 FL, 0 sacks, 0 FF against the Raiders in that game.
The rest of the season was kind of up and down.
Hopefully this guy can put in work and Haluchuck can find the best ways to use him (seemed to in 06).
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Wimbley was mis used. He should have been used as a Demarcus Ware type pass rusher and rover in a 3-4 and instead they stopped using him as a primary pass rusher. Stupid…
March 17th, 2010 at 11:42 am
I don’t mind an athlete who is cocky and self confident; even if he’s a Deion Sanders type, but when you have ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING to back it up, and you have a tatto that says “Chosen One” and you don’t even try hard, and you are dragging my favorite sports team down to the gutter because you don’t care enough to even get in shape enough to earn the MILLIONS of dollars you are stealing, and the topper….YOU SUCK!!! Then I have a problem with that.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Wimbley had Rob Ryan!
March 17th, 2010 at 11:42 am
rockstar
okay fine. i’ll stop with the personal crap. don’t respond to my post by twisting it all up next time. i simply asked what qb would have succeeded with our oline? you take that as an excuse for russell’s play. there is no excuse for his play. my sole point was until our oline is fixed, we will not win. no matter who the qb is. then i said dhb was the only 1ST ROUND pick ?ed at the time of the pick. you respond with mike mitchell pick was ?ED. ya it was, but i was speaking of !ST round picks. stop twisting my words, and we’ll be fine.
unless you again post something like “mike mitchell(amongst others) gave up most of the td’s”
March 17th, 2010 at 11:42 am
# SteveAlford21 Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Silver-n-Smac,
You and I have always gotten along, but I’m going to have to call B.S. on you today. I’ve never seen Richochet “bash” the team. I’ve seen him talk about how players have failed, how Al has made retardedly bad decisions, and how we, the fans, have been cheated of what we’ve come to expect not only from the Raiders, but from ANY competent sports team… but I’ve never seen him BASH the team. Pointing out where we’ve screwed up is the only way to FIX IT and get back on track. That’s not bashing, that’s trying to help.
When your mom or dad yelled at you for repeatedly playing with the stove knobs, they weren’t “bashing” you, they were helping in an angry, frustrated tone.
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Steve & Jonesy941 – first of all. . . .howdie!
I’ll say it again. I’ve never said people shouldn’t be pissed or critical. I’ve criticized the team, its players and Al Davis plenty myself.
The point is, when I’m at a game during week #1, and we have a packed house, and 4 weeks later there’s barely anyone in my section, I don’t want to hear about loyalty.
According to you all, it’s fine to rip the team as long as you “stick” with them.
Explain to me what happened to the mystery 30,000 people in just a few weeks. Those 30,000 are the same as the ones who turn off their TV sets and walk away.
We’re sitting in our seats. We’re just as pissed as the next guy. We’re talkin’ shiot with each other all game long, giving our opinions.
But at the end of the day, it’s FOOTBALL, not life. And we’re still enjoying watching our team.
I see a lot of that good here. And I also see a lot of fools who have no business calling themselves loyal.
When a guy like DAKOTA rips the team, I’ve seen enough of his posts to know he loves the team and is just tired of them being bad. Every comment he makes is not filled with dread.
A guy like Richocrap is full of it. His sole joy around here is getting off on making profound rips on people. There is NO ounce of Raider fan in this fool.
He’s a grade “A” premaddona.
Sorry if you took offense, but, I think you misunderstood where I was coming from.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Yeah, I see how far your NOT “taking it” has gotten you.
Dumbass.
I see how far your little billboards have gotten you.
Dumbass.
We’re talking about football here. Explain to me how far all your biotching, joking, fire-spitting comments about Davis or any of the players has gotten you. . . TOUGH GUY.
Yeah, I’m a spineless worm because I find a way to maintain the ability to enjoy watching my team every Sunday, regardless of the record.
Go ahead and drown yourself in misery of that makes you feel “TOUGH”.
Glad to know all your efforts have made such a drastic improvement over the past 7 years.
Hope you can find a way to smile every now and again, until Al gives you what you want and dies.
Until then. . . .. go get’em Tough Guy.
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You must be one the few fans who actually shows up to the games and gets plastered and drunk before the game even begins….so you can pass out somewhere by halftime to try and let go of the dreaded memory of the 1st half of the game! LOL
March 17th, 2010 at 11:44 am
Jhill,
So just got word, lol, that the dude in the ride is definately NOT the brother, and he has never seen that guy before, so not part of the normal “crew”.
That’s what I get for assuming.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:44 am
rockstar
how longs it been that you’ve been waiting for a response? 5 minutes
how long has it been i’ve been waiting for another td that mitchell gave up? 5 months
tell you what. gimme my td, i’ll give you ur response. ok
i love u buddy
March 17th, 2010 at 11:44 am
lol at 221
March 17th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 11:42 am
# SteveAlford21 Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Silver-n-Smac,
You and I have always gotten along, but I’m going to have to call B.S. on you today. I’ve never seen Richochet “bash” the team. I’ve seen him talk about how players have failed, how Al has made retardedly bad decisions, and how we, the fans, have been cheated of what we’ve come to expect not only from the Raiders, but from ANY competent sports team… but I’ve never seen him BASH the team. Pointing out where we’ve screwed up is the only way to FIX IT and get back on track. That’s not bashing, that’s trying to help.
When your mom or dad yelled at you for repeatedly playing with the stove knobs, they weren’t “bashing” you, they were helping in an angry, frustrated tone.
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Steve & Jonesy941 – first of all. . . .howdie!
I’ll say it again. I’ve never said people shouldn’t be pissed or critical. I’ve criticized the team, its players and Al Davis plenty myself.
The point is, when I’m at a game during week #1, and we have a packed house, and 4 weeks later there’s barely anyone in my section, I don’t want to hear about loyalty.
According to you all, it’s fine to rip the team as long as you “stick” with them.
Explain to me what happened to the mystery 30,000 people in just a few weeks. Those 30,000 are the same as the ones who turn off their TV sets and walk away.
We’re sitting in our seats. We’re just as pissed as the next guy. We’re talkin’ shiot with each other all game long, giving our opinions.
But at the end of the day, it’s FOOTBALL, not life. And we’re still enjoying watching our team.
I see a lot of that good here. And I also see a lot of fools who have no business calling themselves loyal.
When a guy like DAKOTA rips the team, I’ve seen enough of his posts to know he loves the team and is just tired of them being bad. Every comment he makes is not filled with dread.
A guy like Richocrap is full of it. His sole joy around here is getting off on making profound rips on people. There is NO ounce of Raider fan in this fool.
He’s a grade “A” premaddona.
Sorry if you took offense, but, I think you misunderstood where I was coming from.
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Yeah well…some fans just don’t want to throw their hard earned money away in support of an owner like Al Davis who doesn’t give a damn about the fans when it is all said and done.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:47 am
So McClain in the first, Cody in the second, Arenas and an G in the third, and more O-line and unheard of fast guys later?
Or Dan Williams, Spikes, and etc..?
March 17th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Mitchells cover skills again?
not relevent.
Mitchell himself said he wants to play better this year. what does that tell you?
not my words. his.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:49 am
vegas raider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 11:47 am
So McClain in the first, Cody in the second, Arenas and an G in the third, and more O-line and unheard of fast guys later?
Or Dan Williams, Spikes, and etc..?
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We only have one third rounder now….
March 17th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Hey Vegas,
Did Arenas run his 40 yet?
March 17th, 2010 at 11:49 am
DKnight007 Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Yeah well…some fans just don’t want to throw their hard earned money away in support of an owner like Al Davis who doesn’t give a damn about the fans when it is all said and done.
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I have no problem with that. You don’t have to buy a ticket to be a fan of the team. But if you’re telling me your TV set is also off until the team gets “good” again, then don’t be calling yourself a fan of the Raiders.
And I’ve said it a million times – If you truly can’t stand Al Davis (and there are numerous reasons why this is legitimate), then how on earth can you currently distinguish him from the team? His hands are in everything regarding this team. So what are you doing?
Simply waiting for him to die?
I guess that’s cool.
Weird if you ask me. But fine I suppose.
I just assume one would find a way to enjoy watching their team, despite the owner.
If you can’t do that, then not sure what to tell you.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:51 am
DMAC Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Hey RR,
I keep hearing a lot of guys talking about drafting Spoon. Does he have uncle Al speed? 40 time?
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Heck yeah he does! At the combine he has a 4.6 40!
At his pro day he posted in the 4.5’s!
That is excellent speed for a LB prospect who checks in at a chiseled 6′1, 240 lbs, who can play ALL the LB positions and can play ALL four downs, who can rush the passer, stuff the run, pursue, and cover!
He does it all and he has great leadership ability. He kinda reminds me of a young Joey Porter.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:51 am
not relevant, because you can come up with nothing to back up your statement of him. what player comes out and says they dont wanna play better.
reporter: mike you did okay your rookie season, what are you looking too improve upon in your 2nd year
mitchell: nothing. i was as perfect as any safety in the league. in fact i wanna see a drop off in my play. i think if i can come in, and show i’ve regressed i’ll be in line for a healthy raise.
when has any player in any sport not said they wanna get better or play better?
March 17th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Anyone defending Richochet hasnt been member here for very long…
March 17th, 2010 at 11:51 am
NE: you can worship Kiper & McShay during every draft if you want to, but in every draft you get guys like Rashaun Woods selected in Round 1 and guys like Marques Colston selected in Round 7
thats why they call the draft a “crapshoot”
just because a guy is deemed a solid draft pick at the time, doesn’t mean he actually is. so whats your point? that Al Davis drafts well in Round 1? that DHB is the only bummer of the bunch? spell it out so I don’t have to “twist it around”
March 17th, 2010 at 11:52 am
I have been reading the posts on here for quite some time and a lot of interesting comments and opinions that I have seen. The Raiders need a lot of upgrades all over the place. For us to even have an average year we need upgrades on the O-line, d-line and line backer. I take a beating every day living in Colorado and I hope this year Al and the team can get it right and lead us in the right direction
March 17th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Anyone read the article on cnnsi about Willie Gault still wanting to play football at the tender age of 50… guy STILL runs a 4.4 40. Its almost scary, like how many people here would be surprised if Al brought him back?
March 17th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Dknight,
I think I’m convinced on Spoon now, but can he shed blockers?
March 17th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Man, what this team needs most is just one or two guys that have that leadership factor. One or two guys that can lead men. From what I have seen, no one on this roster, including Nnamdi, is capable of doing that yet…maybe some of our younger players (Miller, Branch, Chaz) will eventually develop that characteristic, but we need some guys right now.
I had hopes for Seymour, but he was always lower on the totem pole in NE, so maybe he just doesn’t know how to do it yet. Ellis seemed to be on that path, but he is gone. Morrison was just too much of a glass half full dork.
We need a Gannon/Kennedy/ Wisniewski/Woodson combo again. Those guys weren’t just talented, they were leaders.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:56 am
reporter: mike you did okay your rookie season, what are you looking too improve upon in your 2nd year
mitchell: nothing. i was as perfect as any safety in the league. in fact i wanna see a drop off in my play. i think if i can come in, and show i’ve regressed i’ll be in line for a healthy raise.
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how do you know what the reporter did or didn’t ask him. pure speculation.
back up what statement? that MM = Gibson #36 ?
thats 3 weeks old bro and if you haven’t gotten over it yet then i’m sorry I offended you. to be fair, the only plays in coverage you can remember are the ones he DIDN’T make … give me some awesome plays that he did make in coverage. if you can’t then it’s a dead issue (agree to disagree)
March 17th, 2010 at 11:56 am
I am lucky… I live near Buffalo. Bills fans argue with me that the Bills are worse off than we are, they havent made the playoffs in 10 consecutive seasons, we havent won more the 5 games in 7 consecutive. LoL… its an argument with no winner.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Round 1- Williams
Round 2- Iupati
Henderson Gallery Satele Iupati Barnes- OL
Shaughnessey Williams Kelly Seymour- DL
March 17th, 2010 at 11:57 am
We only have one third rounder now….
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Yup good call.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Silver,
I moved away from the Bay Area before the ‘09 season started, but with all due respect, I would have stopped going to games after week 5 last season. I would have been greatly encouraged after week 1’s close loss at home. I would have been mortified by week 2’s thrown-away win. I would have slowly lost my desire to pay money to watch the performances get worse. I would PROBABLY have come back to the coliseum when it was announced that JR was benched, no matter WHO they were starting in his place, if for no other reason than to be there in case that solved enough problems to get us a win. I’m not saying that JR was the only problem, but he was big one. Anyway, I watched every game from my far-away east coast vantage point… and would have supported the team with SOME of my money last year, but not as much as I would if I agreed with the decisions made as far as QB, OL, WR, and DL were concerned on the field; and front office personnel off the field. I love my team, but hate how it’s being run.
I don’t have a vote on how Al does things, but I do have a vote as to whether I go to the games. Al doesn’t read the blogs or pay attention to the media, so the only way that Al will get the message is if he sees empty seats. He MIGHT start to pay attention when he realizes that he doesn’t have as much love and support as he did in the days when he made better decisions about who he kept around him and how he ran the team. Then again, it’s Al… so he probably won’t care. Either way, I refuse to spend a few hundred bucks to get angry. Paying for a ticket to the ‘09 Raiders is like paying a stripper to put on a parka and punch you in the face.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:58 am
# DKnight007 Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 11:43 am
You must be one the few fans who actually shows up to the games and gets plastered and drunk before the game even begins….so you can pass out somewhere by halftime to try and let go of the dreaded memory of the 1st half of the game! LOL
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LOL. . . . Nah. . . . .I’m one of the ones who was rooting for Russell during the entire Monday Night Charger game when he was looking pretty mediocre, while tons of people were booing him, asking for him to get pulled.
And I absolutely loved looking around after he threw the “game winning” bomb to Murphy. . . .looking around to watch the faces of the same fools who were booing our starting QB. . . .their cowardly expressions were priceless.
As for booing at a game. . . . .A guy is sucking it up badly. Hes playing crappy.
Is booing him somehow going to improve his already-crappy play?
Just never got the concept man.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Iupati isn’t making it out of the first round. No chance at us getting him unless we take him at 8. GB or Pittsburgh will take him in the 1st
March 17th, 2010 at 11:59 am
rockstar
no matter what logic i use to debate you, you have your thoughts dude. i could tell you the sky is blue, produce evidence of it, and you’ll still tell me its pink. i got you. just as you brought mitchell into a debate on 1st round picks, then ask what is the relevance of his coverage skills. nothing. just like there is no relevance to mitchell when discussing first round picks. just keep on keeping on.
and dont forget
i love you buddy
March 17th, 2010 at 11:59 am
DMAC,
Still didn’t run because of his hammy that pulled at the combine.
His one unofficial combine run was under 4.5, like a 4.47 or something like that.
Could slide to a 3rd rounder, and hell who knows maybe a 4th. If Lou Murphy can slide to the 4th I’m sure Arenas could too.
A starting DB on the national champions, all-American and all SEC CB selection, and one of the most feared KR in a few years, for a 3rd rounder.
Sign me up!!
March 17th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Teams gonna be leary of taking a G in the first round, you never know
March 17th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
# Dakota Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Man, what this team needs most is just one or two guys that have that leadership factor. One or two guys that can lead men. From what I have seen, no one on this roster, including Nnamdi, is capable of doing that yet…maybe some of our younger players (Miller, Branch, Chaz) will eventually develop that characteristic, but we need some guys right now.
I had hopes for Seymour, but he was always lower on the totem pole in NE, so maybe he just doesn’t know how to do it yet. Ellis seemed to be on that path, but he is gone. Morrison was just too much of a glass half full dork.
We need a Gannon/Kennedy/ Wisniewski/Woodson combo again. Those guys weren’t just talented, they were leaders.
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This is right on the money. I agree wholeheartedly.
The only part I would disagree about is Nnamdi. I don’t think he has ANY real leadership skills. He’s probably the most bright, intelligent player in the league.
But, the whole “lead by example” thing is not enough with this team.
We need a dude that is vocal and has the balls to get in someone’s face when they false-start of jump off-sides every other play.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
C’mon Jerry. Give us a comedic version of the QB’s name. Just once. You’re a professional writer, I’m sure you can come up with a good one. Here, I’ll get you started Ja____
March 17th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
SteveAlford21 Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Paying for a ticket to the ‘09 Raiders is like paying a stripper to put on a parka and punch you in the face.
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That was damn funny!
And tragic indeed!
March 17th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
They will be less leary of taking the best G in the first round then say the 4th or 5th best T… GB and Pit need oline help almost as bad as we do.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
round 1 -Iupati
round 2 -Cody
Henderson Gallery Satele Iupati Barnes -OL
Shaughnessey Cody Kelly Seymour -DL
March 17th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
the draft should be simple we need to improve at O-line, D-line and Linebacker.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Steve Hutchinson was a G taken in the first round and he may be in the HOF when it is all said and done.
It’s all about a system fit, and Iupati fits very well with us, and is a huge position of need.
I would support taking him at #8. A reach yes, but that’s what we do.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
rockstar
you see how you twist things up. you said he played a part in giving up most of the touchdowns. right? yes you did. i already told you he didnt make any plays in coverage because he didn’t cover much.
rockstar the statement i asked you to back up was “MOST OF THE TOUCHDOWNS”
not mm=dg.
do you follow me?
stop saying i said to back up the statement of mm=dg.
i said to give me one td other than washington.
am i speaking the english?
March 17th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Iupati at 8 is like reaching to the other end of the couch for the remote, DHB at 7 is like reaching across the Grand Canyon for the remote…
March 17th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
NE: avoid the tough questions
I like your style.
don’t want to be vulnerable on an internet blog?
I gotcha.
like to see what evidence you produced on Mitchell’s coverage ability or your above draft comments. stay classy
March 17th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
what do u want me to answer?
March 17th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
did you even ask a question?
March 17th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
When they announced DHB as our pick last year I could do nothing but laugh. DHB wasnt even the 7th best WR available. If we took Iupati, I would be satisfied, I think we would be better served to get a Tackle, but I would be satisfied with a Guard.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
i already told you he didnt make any plays in coverage because he didn’t cover much.
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then how can you say he’s a solid cover safety?
if it’s an unknown in your book, then why don’t you just say that instead of getting up excited over 1 or 2 comments I made over 3 weeks ago?
March 17th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Vegas,
You think Spikes could fall into an early 3rd rounder?
Florida ILB Brandon Spikes was unable to break 5.0 seconds in the forty-yard dash at the Gators’ Wednesday Pro Day.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Vegas,
I have said from the start that I think we should take the best available DT, OT, or G available at #8, regardless of position. If Iupati is there when we pick, but the top 2 DTs are gone (without doubt, they will be), and the top 2 OTs are gone (without doubt, they SHOULD be), then I say take Iupati. I’d rather have 1st round Guard talent than REALLY REACH for bottom of 1st/any of 2nd round OT talent. People don’t realize that the dropoff really IS significant. A 1st round G is never a reach with any pick after 5, but a late 1st round T is a reach if you take him earlier than 10.
Having the top player at his position is better than having the fourth-best tackle and then having to wait to fill guard with a later-round pick. Sadly, no one seems to realize how much taking Arenas or McClain or any non-OT/DT/G with #8 would hurt us… it pushes the level of OT/DT/G talent that we can get down one round per pick. That’s a HUGE drop… all to get a player that doesn’t fill a position of MOST need (yes, MLB is a need, but not more than the trenches, IMO).
March 17th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
now i said he’s a solid cover? show me that post.
FOR THE LAST TIME ROCKSTAR, YOU SAID MITCHELL HAD A PART IN GIVING UP MOST OF THE TOUCHDOWNS. I SAID NO. JUST ONE VS WASHINGTON. NO OTHERS. WHEN DID I SAY HE WAS SOLID IN COVERAGE?
AGAIN ROCKSTAR, SHOW ME THE POST IN WHICH I SAID ANYTHING CLOSE TO HE IS SOLID IN COVERAGE.
AND WHILE YOU’RE AT IT, FIND MY ANOTHER TD HE GAVE UP. IM SURE YOU’LL FIND THAT, AND THE POST IN WHICH I SAID MM IS SOLID IN COVERAGE.
I AM GUESSING YOU’LL FIND BOTH IN YOUR IMAGINATION
PLEASE TELL ME WHEN I SAID HE WAS SOLID IN COVERAGE
March 17th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
DMAC,
I think a 3rd round slot would be a huge drop for Spikes, I don’t know if he would go that far.
But with that forty time he could fall to the 33rd round and Al probably wouldn’t take him.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
KHTK says russell in great shape
also texas rangers manager ron washington is a cocaine freak
March 17th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
That 40 is going to hurt him.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
rockstar
buddy. the post in which i said mm is solid in coverage please.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
new englandraider
ok man. lets start from scratch since you keep changing your mind and debating with me about every post under the sun.
Mike Mitchell. what are your thoughts on his coverage ability?
March 17th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Vegas,
check out post 134^^^^^^^
March 17th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
or is my statement of him not giving up “most of the td’s” synonymous with he’s solid in coverage. but you dont twist things around do you?
March 17th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
SteveAlford21 Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Having the top player at his position is better than having the fourth-best tackle
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I agree 110%. I call it “value”. But I would say McClain is also the top ILB in the draft, so I would put him in the mix as well.
He may not be as fast as some ILB, but he is fast enough. Besides, I would sacrifice some speed for some stoutness as this stage.
You look at every top defense, and they have either one, or more, 1st round pick and/or some high-priced FA at LB. We need to fix the D-line, what don’t we need to fix (?), but MLB may be one of our weakest spots on the whole team, IMO.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
What about picking up Andrews, Shawn the philly cut him but he was a pro bolwer and we can use all the help we can get on the OL
March 17th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
NE: if you don’t think MM is solid in coverage, why do you keep arguing with me when I say that he isn’t?
because you don’t know? you’re not sure? haven’t made up your mind yet? just like to argue?
March 17th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Oh, and for the record (even though I’ve said it MANY times before):
Four picks in 1st three rounds (one 3rd is gone now, but might get it back for Morrison, and I’m going to hope we do and base this on that hope). All four picks have to be on OT/DT/G unless Spikes is there in Rd 2. That is the ONLY way I’m okay with picking a non-trench player in the first three rounds. Sadly, we didn’t get Dansby, but we still might get a veteran MLB through trade… I just would rather have a vet at MLB than a rookie, especially McClain (he’s not a true 4-3 MLB and rookies generally can’t LEAD in that position or play it up to speed, especially trying to become MLB when they’re used to being ILB… similar position, big difference).
March 17th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
rockstar
you posted 5 minutes ago, that i said he was solid in coverage. didn’t you?
show me where i said that
March 17th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
can someone help this guy out. please.
i am arguing with you about mike mitchell because you said “HE GAVE UP MOST OF THE TD”S
should i agree with that. it is not true.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
I am totally against using #8 for McClain when the trenches need more shoring. Spikes isn’t worth #8, but if he is there at #40, I say take him and I’ll be fine with that. I trust a rookie who knows a 4-3 system and is used to it more than a rookie who has to learn it anew. Speed has nothing to do with it, as I’m fine with McClain’s speed… it’s all about fitting into the system for me.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
by sayng your statement is not correct, means im saying he’s solid in coverage. where do you come up with this stuff bro?
March 17th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
What the hell!!!!
What about Lebron James as our MLB????????
March 17th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
i am arguing with you about mike mitchell because you said “HE GAVE UP MOST OF THE TD”S
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thats all you’re debating now? are you sure?
well then post that entire comment I made 3 weeks ago and we’ll go over it again for you, ok pal?
March 17th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
i was typing that same question as i read your post toyz, even if he’s got a back issue hes still better than carlisle lol. definitely would be a gd sign imo. although a shaky back isnt gd for the zbs.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
princess jamila at mlb?
March 17th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
rockstar
you’re softer than a wet jelly donut bro
March 17th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Steve,
We need help at almost all positions. In the first 3 rounds, the only thing we shouldn’t draft is a TE, S or Kickers. Everything else should be at least on the table.
We need a T, a G and C is debatable. We need depth there as well. We still may not have a QB, and you can never have enough good RB’s.
We definatelly need a DT, a MLB, and you can never have enough pass-rushers. We could also use a nickle corner and a Kick-returner could really help our offense with field position, since 80 yard drives aren’t really our thing.
Agree?
March 17th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
by sayng your statement is not correct, means im saying he’s solid in coverage.
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AGAIN- we’ll start from scratch if you like
Mike Mitchell. what are your thoughts on his coverage ability?
March 17th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
no, im also debating that i said he is solid in coverage too
March 17th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
he has zero ability to cover. that is why he gave up all those td’s
March 17th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
personal insults = you’ve lost the debate
try again next week.
then the original comments you’re disputing will only be 4 weeks old. yippee!
March 17th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Vegas,
We both like Arenas, but what do you think of SyQuan Thompson out of Cal in later rounds? Could play nickel for us.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
how can anyone wathing on tv tell you about his ability to cover. he probably gave up in 16 games, about 5 receptions maybe 75 yards tops, and 1 td. he wasn’t asked to cover rockstar. so i wouldn’t say he is good, or bad. we have hardly seen him be asked to cover
March 17th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
I don’t think Mike Mitchell played enough last season to really discuss him one way or the other.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
rockstar
dont act like a moron if you don’t want to be called one. just admit that he didnt play a part in giving up most of the td’s. or do you still believe he did?
March 17th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
dakota
did he play a part in giving up most of the td’s a defense allowed? or was there 1 and only 1 vs washington?
March 17th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Vegas,
I agree in principle, but not in practice.
A decent RB looks All-Pro behind a great line. Middle of the pack receivers perform great when the plays have time to develop. Lower-tier QBs have great games when well-protected. Lesser-talent CBs don’t have to cover as long when the DL/LBs create pressure or stuffs runs.
It is true that there are needs nearly everywhere, but the most important and most glaring needs are in the trenches. I would be content if EVERY pick that we have this year was used on the best available OL/DL player each time we picked. I honestly believe that with average or better line play and a competent MLB, we would be a .500 or better team with the rest of the roster staying the same. I wholeheartedly believe this… and am adamantly and vehemently opposed to drafting outside of OT/DT/G for the first three rounds unless it’s Spikes in the 2nd.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
DMAC Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Dknight,
I think I’m convinced on Spoon now, but can he shed blockers?
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I think he certainly can because he extremely strong and with his low center of gravity and quickness it would only help him to gain leverage and shed.
I think he would be a more productive (in the run game) and a better overall LB than Morrison was here.
Some team in the middle of the 1st Round is gonna be happy once they get this kat.
I want him to be a Raider badly….having his type of attitude alone on the team would be significant, to go along with his skills to play ALL three LB spots and ALL four downs!
March 17th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
DMAC,
Well being a big Cal homer, I was a big Syd’Quan fan (cool name too).
Kind of small, and not the KR threat that Arenas is (not even close actually). He always impressed me with his cover skills, and especially ball skills. When the ball is in the air, he is tremendous. The exact opposite of Routt, who for no reason will just grab and hold a guy even though he has great coverage. No ball skills from Routt.
DB is a very instinctual position, and both Arenas and Thompson have great instincts to off-set their lack of size and ideal speed.
I think Arenas will come off the board first, but both will be in the 3rd to 4th range, and wouldn’t mind either one.
The Chargers and Chiefs obviously are going to be wide-open offenses for years, so DB is a need IMO for us.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Chance to draft him in the 2nd?
March 17th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
DKnight?
March 17th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Vegas,
What about big Tyson??
March 17th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
SteveAlford21 Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
A decent RB looks All-Pro behind a great line
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I am a big stats guy, so I don’t believe fully in this.
Look year in and year out at the top rushers in the league. All 1st rounders, and often times the first or second RB off the board in their respective drafts.
Last year, in the top 10 was 7 first-rounders and two 2nd rounders. The only non-oneofthose, was Ryan Grant, and is O-line was considered the weak spot of the offense.
So I think you need top-flight guys carrying the rock, unless you have a DOMINANT O-line. And really how many of those year in and year out are there? A handful at best? I guarantee the Jets run-game goes down with the loss of Thomas Jones.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
NE Raider,
Heck if I know…I rarely spotted Mitchell on the field except in goal line situations where the field was compressed and you could see the safeties on the tv screen.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
DMAC,
Didn’t see Tyson as much, kind of came from nowhere this year it seemed.
Very active, kind of light, and probably will be a better pass-rusher than run blocker.
A Rod Coleman type.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Steve
with any other MLB I’d be with you and say we take Davis, Campbell or trade back for Dan or trent williams, but McClain is no regular MLB. I just think the dude is special and has the type of infectious personality that builds chemistry and lifts a unit. He is the best LB prospect since Willis and was the leader of the best defense, on the best team, in the toughest conference in all of collegiate football. I say we take him OT Ducasse in the second, DT Cam Thomas in the third, and hopefully Javier Arenas or Jacoby Ford are availabe in the 4th. Or we could take Trindon Holliday in the 6th to be our return specialist and address other needs in the 4th
March 17th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
dakota
no problem. lol. you’re right mitchell didnt play a lot. therefore making it extremely difficult for him to play a part in giving up most of the passing td’s the defense allowed.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
That’s what I was thinking. Definately too loight for the DT position in the NFL, but could be used as an end on passing downs.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
light
March 17th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
we gotta go Williams w/ 1st pick because there’s no guarantee Cody will be there in round 2 and with no NT to replace Warren our run D will be the worst in the league. Our OL is bad but Henderson will be better, Gallery will be healthy (and hopefully stay that way) Satele got better, we’ll get a replacement for Carlisle, and Barnes is an upgrade over Green and we can get comp for him in another round
March 17th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Curiously it is about 50/50 with top-flight run D’s and early draft picks at DT.
I know the Vikings invested in them, but don’t know where their run D finished. The Steelers have Hampton as well, but also 1st rounders at LB as well.
Packers, Ravens, Jets, Cowboys have late rounders and even undrafted guys in the middle, and 1st rounders at LB.
Point being, the Raiders need to fix BOTH DT and LB. If they only upgrade one of the other, and the offense still blows, don’t expect a whole lot better results.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Vegas,
I’m basically saying that we need to BUILD a dominant OL. It won’t happen overnight and I am okay with spending all draft picks for 2 or 3 years solely on OL and DL.
Emmitt Smith was NOT a great RB. He was an average back with a dominant line. Terrell Davis was NOT a great RB. He was an average back with a dominant line. Do you know who WAS a great back? Barry Sanders. A team with horrible line play (like the Raiders) had the best RB in the game… and it got them NOTHING. Drafting great skill players when you suck in the trenches is a waste of an NFL career… just ask Barry Sanders.
We have to fix the trenches FIRST.
March 17th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
DMAC Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Chance to draft him in the 2nd?
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Chance to draft who in the 2nd?
Spoon? No way….
Spikes should be there in Round 2….he will fall much like Maualuga did last year and instead of the Raiders not being aggressive enough to get Maualuga, if Spikes is there in Round 2, they should get him.
Then go DT in Round 3 or look at RT/RG prospect Kyle Calloway in Round 3 or maybe Arenas.
March 17th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
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March 17th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Emmit Smith is the Florida HS all-time leader in rushing (and the second most of ANY HS RB EVER IN ANY STATE), left as the all-time leader in rushing at the University of Florida (even though he only played 3 years), and was a first-round pick.
Who are you to say he was not a great RB?
March 17th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Emmitt Smith and Terrell Davis were average? wow… LT had a pretty good OL but didn’t do sh with it last two years and he isn’t gna do anything in NY
March 17th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
LT had Neal. He didn’t do schit w/out him.
March 17th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Chiefs: The team announced the signing of free agent left guard Ryan Lilja, a 59-game starter for the Indianapolis Colts who was claimed off waivers from Kansas City in 2004. Terms were not disclosed.
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Good move by the queefs….a move the Raiders should have made of course.
Sheesh…
March 17th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Emmit Smith already led the league in rushing twice before Larry Allen came aboard.
And Tuinei and Newton were around a good 5 years before Emmitt came aboard, and were the starters for a 1-15 team.
I believe Hershel Walker had the same O-line that Emmitt had his first few years. Walker is in the HOF and didn’t have the same production that Emmitt had.
March 17th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
So LT wasn’t great either? guy had speed could break tackles could block could catch out of the backfield just got worn down like all Rb’s do and if he’s average then he should look great on the Jets as a previous poster suggests but he won’t because he’s done
March 17th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
ESPN’s take on Emmitt (from their 100 greatest players segment):
“(Smith) darted, slithered and followed his blockers, and squeezed yard after yard out of plays that didn’t have any yards in them. He didn’t look especially fast or powerful or blindingly deceptive, yet he couldn’t be stopped.”[9] “Smith was noted for being a very durable back with excellent vision, tremendous leg strength, and great balance, and was known as one of the best second-effort runners ever.”
March 17th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
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March 17th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
I know im late but I have to chime in on this one. This is great news about no.2. He seemed to slip into a depression last year with the deaths in hid family, his poor play, and his weight. Now that he is at least able to cope with his loss, and appears to be on the right track when it comes to diet and exercise, he is free to let his game and talent come to the surface. I love the idea of prepared meals and a former raider, as his shadow. I think all of you that have hated on no.2 to this point are in for a shock, and those that have supported him will be pleased. i think the kid is getting it, and is continuing the maturation process that started for him last year after being benched.
March 17th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Nathan Vasher, anyone?
Derek Anderon & Richie Incognito are off the market …
Panthers gave Tyler Brayton a new 3 year deal
RG Shawn Andrews (if he can stay healthy) is certainly an upgrade over Cooper Carlisle!
March 17th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
I will NOT cheat Emmitt out of his leg strength and drive. One thing that I will say is that his feet NEVER stopped moving until his whole body was on the ground and I have always wanted that characteristic in a back more than any other. However, I don’t think he’d have 2/3 as many yards behind a line that wasn’t dominant. Behind an average line, he would have had 10k, tops. Behind the current Raiders line, he’d have gotten 8k for his career. I wouldn’t put Emmitt in the top 10 RBs of all-time (taking out production and other factors that depend on how well the line blocked), but that’s MY opinion. Over half of Emmitt’s yards came BEFORE contact because that line just manhandled opposing defenders.
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March 17th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Hey RR,
I thought Andrews played T.
March 17th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Nathan Vasher is a good db, how good will he be in a press man package? The bears run a lot of zone. As we know to play db for the raiders, you must have a unique ability to cover bump and run, and tackle in the run game.
March 17th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
DMAC:
his brother Stacy Andrews plays tackle …
March 17th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Nathan Vasher would be a much better slot guy the routt. Might even be able to start over CJ
March 17th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
DMAC Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Hey RR,
I thought Andrews played T.
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He was the RG until last season when they were going to move him to RT to replace Runyan…but he never played a down at RT, hurt all year.
March 17th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Speaking of Andrews… I will be DVR’ing Dancing with the Stars until Erin Andrews gets eliminated.
March 17th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Emmitt Smith was the best back in whatever league he played in, and amonst his peers, from when he was 14 until he was about 33.
Tough to put him out of top 10, IMO.
True he had a good O-line, great in the middle of his career, and it certainly helped. Tough to say how much it helped and all that. But he broke a lot of tackles, and nobody turned a 2 yard gain into a 5 yard gain better than Emmitt Smith.
March 17th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Mistic: Vasher can’t be a worse nickel corner than Routt imo
worth a look anyways, but might not have the height/weight/speed Al Davis looks for in a DB
I’d give former first rounder Tye Hill a call too
March 17th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Are we going to re-sign Langston Walker…maybe move him to RG?
Anyone? Anyone?
March 17th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
We could have gotten McAllister and McKenzie last year, but ignored them, they went to NO and made Tom Brady play possibly the worst game of his pro career. Al LOVES Routt and doesnt think we need anyone else beyond him.
March 17th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Call me cynical, but I need visual evidence taken by an independent third party entity before I believe Russell has slimmed down one ounce.
March 17th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
IMO, Walker looked good at LG last year. Wouldn’t mind him getting signed for depth.
March 17th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
This is the last picture I can find of Russell…as King whatever, which wasn’t that long ago and he still has a fat neck and the man boobs and pot belly show right through his uniform:
http://media.al.com/live/photo/jamarcus-russell-mardi-gras1jpg-e1d57f0c204afe9c.jpg
March 17th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
ESPN’s Todd McShay expects Florida ILB Brandon Spikes to fall to the third round after running in the 5.0 range at Wednesday’s Pro Day.
1st round-Williams
2nd round-Price
3rd round-Spikes
What do you guys think???
March 17th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
bcz24 Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Speaking of Andrews… I will be DVR’ing Dancing with the Stars until Erin Andrews gets eliminated.
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No doubt…and with the outfits those dancers wear, well, we can see what that peeping Tom wanted to see from the comfort of our living rooms, with no threat of prosecution whatsoever….she is a looker:
http://blog.lib.umn.edu/carls064/freealonzo/erin.jpg
March 17th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
DMAC Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
ESPN’s Todd McShay expects Florida ILB Brandon Spikes to fall to the third round after running in the 5.0 range at Wednesday’s Pro Day.
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Probably just a ploy to avoid ending up in Oakland!
March 17th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Walker looked good at LG last year. Wouldn’t mind him getting signed for depth.
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Ditto.
March 17th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
I wonder what Andrew Walter is up ot these days????
March 17th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
Seems to me if you’re convinced Russell is a new man, you waste no time shouting it from the rooftops, arranging interviews and photo opportunities to placate a fan base that voiced their displeasure in the form of boos a year ago. Some of these people are on the fence about renewing their season tickets and a little off-season optimism might push them back in the direction of the Coliseum.
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Exactly, more Al Davis counter-productive obstinance.
March 17th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
to
March 17th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
DMAC Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
ESPN’s Todd McShay expects Florida ILB Brandon Spikes to fall to the third round after running in the 5.0 range at Wednesday’s Pro Day.
1st round-Williams
2nd round-Price
3rd round-Spikes
What do you guys think???
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Who knows….he may fall to the 3rd….if he is in round 3…take him.
Straight line 40 times are OVERRATED…remember that folks!
March 17th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Fresno State RB Ryan Mathews ran in the mid-4.4 range at the Bulldogs’ Wednesday Pro Day.
Raider speed?????????????
March 17th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Dakota Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
DMAC Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
ESPN’s Todd McShay expects Florida ILB Brandon Spikes to fall to the third round after running in the 5.0 range at Wednesday’s Pro Day.
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Probably just a ploy to avoid ending up in Oakland!
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Exactly! If Spikes is there in Round 2….the Raiders should snatch him up!
Go OT/DT with the #8 pick!
March 17th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
DMAC Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Fresno State RB Ryan Mathews ran in the mid-4.4 range at the Bulldogs’ Wednesday Pro Day.
Raider speed?????????????
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Mathews style reminds a little of AP’s style.
He going to be a solid pro IMO and lets hope the Dis-Chargers don’t get him!
March 17th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Hopefully the Texans snatch him up before the Chokers.
March 17th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
Did JaMarcus mature as he slimmed down? Did the football immersion program fire-up the “football smarts” part of his brain? Is he ready to handle things more like a man than a big child? Can he win over his teammates? Is he ready to step up to a microphone when one is presented and deliver the right message (regardless of his public speaking skills, or lack thereof)? Can he handle the media, or will they run all over him?
Lots of questions…but at least JaMarcus has answered the biggest one so far — the one about his commitment to improve. Football smarts is the next question in my mind.
Although I can only imagine it happening…if JaMarcus actually knows and plays the game well enough to beat-out Gradkowski this summer, the Raiders will have their QB for the next 10 years.
Welcome back JaMarcus…and good luck.
March 17th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Dakota Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
bcz24 Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Speaking of Andrews… I will be DVR’ing Dancing with the Stars until Erin Andrews gets eliminated.
++++++
No doubt…and with the outfits those dancers wear, well, we can see what that peeping Tom wanted to see from the comfort of our living rooms, with no threat of prosecution whatsoever….she is a looker:
http://blog.lib.umn.edu/carls064/freealonzo/erin.jpg
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Erin Andrews = OVERRATED!
There are blond bimbos that look like her everywhere!
March 17th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
If Anderson is helping Russell get in shape, who will teach him the playbook?????
March 17th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
I think 40 times are overrated for MLB’s unless they are going to be floating around in coverage 60 percent of the time, like in Oakland
how many times have you guys seen Kirk Morrison attack the LOS on a run or pass blitz the past 4 years?
and Danny Clark before him?
if Morrison finds a new team then Spoon is the guy to replace him.
Biekert in Oakland. Rey Lewis, Brian Urlacher, Zach Thomas, Jon Vilma, Mike Peterson, Dan Morgan, Keith Brooking, Barret Ruud, Antonio Pierce, etc. none of these cats have/had blazing speed. just solid tackling skills & leadership
March 17th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Jathefatblackkidinoldschool has a bad attitude as was evident when answering media questions about Bruce’s performances last year insinuating the Wr’s made plays for Bruce but not for him. I don’t think he’ll ever be good but people can mature and do a 180 so hopefully he proves me wrong
March 17th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Keeping in mind that for print purposes, Monday is for Tuesday, Tuesday is for Wednesday, etc., that means quarterback play becomes a primary focus for nearly the entire week simply because Russell hides out on Monday and doesn’t speak until Thursday.
No one with any clout has sat Russell down and told him how it works.
The Raiders take the position that they don’t owe the media (and by extension, their fans) anything, and operate in a cone of silence, and it’s as painfully inept as the the one The Chief and Maxwell Smart utilized on“Get Smart.”
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The Raiders are sooo gawdamned incompetent it makes me sick.
March 17th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
I think 40 times are overrated for MLB’s unless they are going to be floating around in coverage 60 percent of the time, like in Oakland
how many times have you guys seen Kirk Morrison attack the LOS on a run or pass blitz the past 4 years?
and Danny Clark before him?
if Morrison finds a new team then Spoon is the guy to replace him.
Biekert in Oakland. Rey Lewis, Brian Urlacher, Zach Thomas, Jon Vilma, Mike Peterson, Dan Morgan, Keith Brooking, Barret Ruud, Antonio Pierce, etc. none of these cats have/had blazing speed. just solid tackling skills & leadership
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Agreed! If Morrison gets signed for a 3rd Rounder…..SPOON would be a PERFECT replacement!
March 17th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
djohnnyg Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 11:31 am
If this TRULY is going to be an open competition for QB, then I don’t see Russell being able to beat out ANYBODY for the job. He is THAT BAD, and the NFL has exposed him to be the charlatan he is.
I would bet that Russell is investing poorly and is spending way too much of his $, based on the thought he will get another big pay day to make up for it. Guess what? That payday will NEVER come.
Enjoy while it lasts JaJackass
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Oh, I see. Now you’re an expert on his finances. Shut the fk up.
March 17th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
40 times for LB’s aren’t overrated.
Blitzing requires speed. So does running down RB’s (and others) who are technically faster than you. And, it’s not just Oakland where LB’s are asked to fly around in coverage.
Slow LB’s = fewer Defensive looks/schemes available to a team, and less pressure from all over the field.
March 17th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Spoon fits exactly what the Raiders would want from a MLB. not sure who else there is later on in the draft, but sometimes Al is pretty good at grabbing late round guys to fit significant roles (Matt Shaughnessy, Trevor Scott, Tyvon Branch, Chaz Schilens, Louis Murphy, Mike Bush, etc)
Ricky Brown, Jon Condo, Tommy Kelly & Desmond Bryant weren’t even drafted …
March 17th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
What about 33 year old Keith Bulluck? With his injury maybe he could be converted into a MLB on a one year incentive laden deal?
March 17th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
40 times for LB’s aren’t overrated.
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HD37: not all LB’s – just MLB’s (imo)
March 17th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
I mentioned that last time Dakota. I would give Bullock a shot.
March 17th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Later fellas
March 17th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
KoolKell Says (quoting JMac):
Keeping in mind that for print purposes, Monday is for Tuesday, Tuesday is for Wednesday, etc., that means quarterback play becomes a primary focus for nearly the entire week simply because Russell hides out on Monday and doesn’t speak until Thursday.
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The Raiders are sooo gawdamned incompetent it makes me sick.
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Ummm, KK — Why did you conveniently leave out the part where JAMARCUS DECIDED, himself, that he would talk to the media on Thursdays?
You’re one of his biggest apologists. Isn’t it up to JaMarcus to man-up and face the media like the rest of his teammates do? How often has JaMarcus snuck out the back door and LEFT HIS TEAMMATES to answer in his stead?
That’s not the Raiders’ incompetence, bitter man…that’s immaturity…and JaMarcus’ inability to face the scrutiny. All for one and one for all, right? Ummm…only if they all stick around.
Al Davis gave JaMarcus the world. It’s time for the payoff…and it won’t be Al’s fault, or the Raiders’ fault, if JaMarcus hasn’t got IT figured this year.
IT includes handling the off-field responsibilities demanded of an NFL quarterback — and I don’t mean using that naughty boy Ben Roethlisberger as an example.
March 17th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
The Raiders take the position that they don’t owe the media (and by extension, their fans) anything, and operate in a cone of silence, and it’s as painfully inept as the the one The Chief and Maxwell Smart utilized on“Get Smart.”
Which, of course, doesn’t stop the Raiders from feeling persecuted about how the message is conveyed even though they make no professional attempt in conveying it.
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This guy needed to be with a professional organization.
March 17th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
That country Alabama kid needed to be with an organization that could teach him how to be an NFL QB, not the Raiders.
March 17th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
KK — Do you have any idea how many people advised him to speak more (or less) to the media? NO. Just another example how you’re the quickest to blame Al for every problem in the universe. That fact alone ruins your credibility.
March 17th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Krappy, before you start posting your wack-a-doodle nonsense again today, make sure Jhill is on the blog to protect you!
You admitted yesterday that you can no longer stand up for yourself, so having Jhill – a semi-pro blogger – around to be your Daddy is essential!
Don’t risk hurting yourself again, old dude!
March 17th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
That country Alabama kid needed to be with an organization that could teach him how to be an NFL QB, not the Raiders.
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You referring to Stabler?
March 17th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Keith Bullock is only 6′3″ 235 lbs.
that’d be like having Derrick Brooks play MLB …
a ton of leadership, but not much else
March 17th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
KK — Do you have any idea how many people advised him to speak more (or less) to the media? NO. Just another example how you’re the quickest to blame Al for every problem in the universe. That fact alone ruins your credibility.
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Go whine to Jerry, it’s his story.
March 17th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Trade DMAC for a ton of leadership!
March 17th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Mistic: Vasher can’t be a worse nickel corner than Routt imo
worth a look anyways, but might not have the height/weight/speed Al Davis looks for in a DB
I’d give former first rounder Tye Hill a call too
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Nathan Vasher????? That guy sucks! He’s not half the player that Routt is. What Chicago games were you watching?? Wouldn’t mind taking a look at Hill, but please, no more talk about Vasher.
March 17th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Nowadays you need you MLB to be 250-260 pounds. Too much size inside
March 17th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
What Chicago games were you watching??
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none. I just know he’s a former starter & pro bowler from a defense thats been very good over the past 5-10 years that got dumped today
figured we could use some depth at CB…
March 17th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
5pm in Podunk. later gents!
March 17th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
ok, i havent been in here for few days now. I will drop my two cents in the new JR look. JR needs to drop the weight. As we know perception becomes reality in most cases, if your peers see you as a slacker, then u might be one. Also the main important thing is that he wins the competition, cause i seriously think if he misses many passes and looks sloppy as Jerry reported it last year training, then he will get cut. AL Davis thought Andrew Walter was the franchise QB, then what happened, gone!!!
JR also will get cut, just like him.
What i dont understand is why aren’t we signing any free agents, we need Mawae, Lilja is gone to the thiefs, Chester Pitts is still available or Bobbie Williams. We need to sign a center and RG. Walker i believe is unrestricted and he doesnt fit ZBS, he only had one good game matter fact one good push in the Broncos game and as usual Raiders fans hype him up. Walker is garbage RT, he cant play RG or LG. I don’t think Chris Morris, Erik Pears and Carslie shouldn’t be in this team. Satele debatable.
March 17th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Yeah, I think the Center position is shakey, too. But a rookie probably won’t work.
March 17th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Bulluck is too small for that huh, bummer.
March 17th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Potential draft
1. Trent Williams OT
2. Brandon Spikes MLB
3. Linval Joseph NT
4. Mitch Pietrus G
5. Roddrick Muckelroy LB
5. Trindon Holliday WR/KR/PR
7. Matt Clapp FB
March 17th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
You know why SD Chokers released Jamaal Williams? They plan to draft a NT Mt Cody. Guarantee.
March 17th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Tebow has been invited to the NFL draft set…holy smokes, he better bring a sleeping bag because he sure as heck isn’t going in the first round!
March 17th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
ok, i havent been in here for few days now. I will drop my two cents in the new JR look. JR needs to drop the weight. As we know perception becomes reality in most cases, if your peers see you as a slacker, then u might be one. Also the main important thing is that he wins the competition, cause i seriously think if he misses many passes and looks sloppy as Jerry reported it last year training, then he will get cut. AL Davis thought Andrew Walter was the franchise QB, then what happened, gone!!!
JR also will get cut, just like him.
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Dude, forget the comparison to Andrew Walter. And when did Al Davis ever say he was the franchise QB? AW never got $40 million. Just forget about JR getting cut. It’s not going to happen.
March 17th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Kell,
Hostility towards the media has always been part of the way Al Davis operates. They are viewed as the enemy. It’s part of his “us against the world” mentality. Al is always off jousting with windmills. When the Raiders were winning it was part of their “mystique”. Remember Raiders officials cursed at and kicked Irv Cross off the field while he was Live on the air during warmups for SB XVIII!
When they are losing like they have been the last seven years, the media hits back. Al has called Mortensen and Schefter “rumor mongers” and professional liars. ESPN has responded in kind by piling on the Raiders with mocking derision. The Raiders take 10 times more crap than the Rams, Lions, Chiefs or any other struggling franchises. Everybody lines up to take their shots at the bully when he has fallen.
A wise man once said don’t get get in a mud slinging contest with people who buy ink by the barrel.
March 17th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Fargas now begging the Saints for a job.
March 17th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Buckeye,
Exactly. But, that was then, this is now. I agree with Jerry, it’s counter-productive and unecessary. By doing so, they allow Russell to be unaccountable.
March 17th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
buckeyeraider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Kell,
Hostility towards the media has always been part of the way Al Davis operates. They are viewed as the enemy. It’s part of his “us against the world” mentality. Al is always off jousting with windmills. When the Raiders were winning it was part of their “mystique”. Remember Raiders officials cursed at and kicked Irv Cross off the field while he was Live on the air during warmups for SB XVIII!
When they are losing like they have been the last seven years, the media hits back. Al has called Mortensen and Schefter “rumor mongers” and professional liars. ESPN has responded in kind by piling on the Raiders with mocking derision. The Raiders take 10 times more crap than the Rams, Lions, Chiefs or any other struggling franchises. Everybody lines up to take their shots at the bully when he has fallen.
A wise man once said don’t get get in a mud slinging contest with people who buy ink by the barrel
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Very true. Personally, I like Davis’ approach. The “me against the world” mentality is one of the biggest reasons I’m a Raider fan.
March 17th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
KK — Do you have any idea how many people advised him to speak more (or less) to the media? NO. Just another example how you’re the quickest to blame Al for every problem in the universe. That fact alone ruins your credibility.
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Go whine to Jerry, it’s his story.
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NOT WHAT HE SAID, DOOFUS.
Jerry reported that JR STUPIDLY WAITS UNTIL THURSDAY.
Your ignorant ass then comments it’s the Raiders fault.
HazeInATotalPermanentDaze informed you your dumbass has comprehension problems.
You, in a permanent state of stupor, verified that comprehension is the least of your problems with the idiot “See Jerry, it’s his story”
You always thought dropping out in the 3rd grade wouldn’t come back and bite ya…it has…in spades.
March 17th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Very true. Personally, I like Davis’ approach. The “me against the world” mentality is one of the biggest reasons I’m a Raider fan.
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Of course you like his approach, Oakglen…you’re an idiot.
Everything about you screams IDIOT.
Your ignorant ass is too slow to figure out that it’s a figure of speech..that at the moment Al is everyone’s commode..and everyone is taking a dump on him.
Oh…and you too, lol…considering you just commented how you’re not a Raider fan, but a “I’m an insecure fat little toad..I hope wearing this silly pirate shirt will stop the girls from kicking my ass”
Sorry it didn’t work out for you, cross posting loser.
No…really..I am.
March 17th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Kelli?? told ya..I’m worried about ya.
One listing? And it’s been stagnant for over 6 months?
And you have nothing else?
You ever think of getting…like..a newspaper route or something? Help the wife out with paying the bills?
I know..telemarketer…people prefer women call and with your high pitched squeal of a voice, you’re a shoo-in.
March 17th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Chargers gonna snatch Cody all the more reason to get Williams at #8
March 17th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
JaMarcus Russell being on the Raiders’ roster IS PROOF that Al Davis cares more about showing people up than he does winning. Al doesn’t want to cut Russell and prove Kiffin right. Come up with a better theory.
March 17th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Yamon Figurs…
March 17th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
There’s no better reflection of an owner’s sheer want of winning than how much they in fact do win.
March 17th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Saying Al Davis wants to win more badly than any owner in the game is like saying Louie Anderson wants to be skinny more than any other comedian.
March 17th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
“I agree with Jerry … ”
- KrappyKell, 3/17/10
Smart move, Krappy. By meekly agreeing with Jerry (all of sudden), you don’t have to beg Jhill to stand up for you against a blog writer!
This would be, of course, in the unlikely event Jerry decides to attack your “character”.
Well done, you racist plagiarsit, you’ve smartly saved yourself from possible further humiliation!
Is it possible that this late in life you’re finally getting it?
March 17th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
inonewordraider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Chargers gonna snatch Cody all the more reason to get Williams at #8
^^^^^^^^
If they pick Dan Williams at 8, then it will be a must to go OT in Round 2 or 3….without a doubt!
1. DT
2. OT
3. LB, RDE, or KR.
Going OT with the 8 pick may be the better option…
1. OT
2. DT
3. LB, RDE, C, KR
4. RDE, OT, C KR
I think there is more depth in the DT positions than elite OT positions this year.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Wacky, you back again? Since you “own” the business you can now come here again and troll right? hahahahaha! What a worthless lying POS!
March 17th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
What wack-o-cheeit means when he says he owns the business is he lives with his mom and his step dad, and he sleeps on a cot in the garage.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
There’s no better reflection of an owner’s sheer want of winning than how much they in fact do win.
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Kind of hard to argue with this point.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
There’s a lot more to winning than just wanting to.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
There’s no better reflection of an owner’s sheer want of winning than how much they in fact do win.
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Just as much as my wanting to be a 7 foot center in the NBA with a LeBron contract.
The point is “want too” is accomplished with the resources, ability, and brains of the “want too er.”
The old man has been leaking oil in many of these respects.
By the way…Afternoon nation.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Hey RMR, and Kell I have a question for you both. What was the reason you first started rooting for the Raiders? For me it was the Holy Roller Game. I was sold for life with Big John Madden completely beside himself and I knew right then that I was a Raider fan. What was it for you guys?
March 17th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
My father started taking me to the games in 64′
March 17th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Rich-O,
Thanks for the computer advice the other day. Maybe I was out of line for sticking my nose into other people’s “bidness”. I just thought some of the personal stuff was getting out of hand. But who the hell am I to say.
For whatever reason, you’ve always been cool to me.
So, what happened during Super Bowl week in ‘02? What did Al do to pizz everybody off? I have no idea to what you were alluding to.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
I don’t believe I have to keep my mouth shut just because I’m a fan. So let’s skip that convo.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Seahawks swap 2nd round picks with SD plus give SD a 3rd rnd pick in 2011 for Charlie Whitehurst. wow
March 17th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Hey Seattle, we have a QB we can trade you too.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Hey Krappy, what was the year you started crapping your pants on a regular basis?
Was this before or after you decided it would be a smart idea to post the Raider’s record everyday on a football blog?
On second thought, don’t answer those questions – beg Jhill to answer them for you.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
My 1st game was ‘68. I was born and raised in the East Bay.
I grew up in a time when Kids played outdoors from sun up to down.
We played sports. The Raiders, A’s and Warriors players were what I aspired to be as a kid.
It was not one momment, but an experience of a young persons life.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Ghost to the post, I can’t remember when I first became a Raider fan. Just remember my dad rooting for them. Late ’70s, some point. I gave up on Al Davis in ‘97, until he hired Gruden. At that time I’d figured Al Davis had learned his lesson. Then after the 2000 season, when it was learned that he wasn’t going to give Gruden a new contract, I knew that was as good as a pink slip and I’d given up on “team loyalty”, so to speak, ever since. I still rooted for the team but knew the collapse was coming. After the Super Bowl loss I expressed my criticism of this team and the slough of insults I got have turned me off for good. I know effectively mock this franchise and its fans until Al Davis is gone. Sue me.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
I consider Al Davis’s loyalists to be enemies. They’re sub human.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
No Rath like a woman scorned. Or a Raider “Fan”
March 17th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Oh, RMR, remember the other thing you do besides “mock” your team – you tattletale on people you think are too scary on the blog to confront on your own.
And then, as if that wasn’t pathetic enough on its own, you then brag about your being a cowardly tattletale to anyone on the blog that will listen.
Next time, try to answer the question in full, alright little dude?
March 17th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Im human..
March 17th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Not if you’re loyal to Al Davis, you’re not, 408. No human being is loyal to that man.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
The Big Banana Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Seahawks swap 2nd round picks with SD plus give SD a 3rd rnd pick in 2011 for Charlie Whitehurst. wow
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Wow is right….Seattle won’t be drafting a QB at 6…thats for sure!
Can’t believe the SeaChickens gave up that much for Whitehearst?
Unreal….Dis-Chargers stole a better draft position and a 3rd rounder from Seattle….
March 17th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Say what you want, Len. I really, really hate Davis’s loyalists. I hate his loyalists more than I hate him. And when they lose, I just live for mocking them. It’s the best time to mock them. These guys really believe in the Raiders, and my god are they depleted of any optimism whatsoever when the Raiders lose. I just hit them, and hit them, and hit them while they’re down. And I can’t wait to do it again 11 to 12 times this fall.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Raiders doing Russell no favors…by not giving him first dibs at the pre-game buffet.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Steve Alford,
In an earlier post #243 you said Al doesn’t care what the fans or the media say or think. Something along those lines. Actually according to that book I mentioned the other day by the teams former physician, it’s quite the opposite. Granted, you can’t take everything he said as gospel. It could just be the rantings of a disgruntled former employee.
But according to Dr. Huizenga, Al is paranoid, and almost consumed by what people say and think about him. He went so far as to say there is a room in the Raider’s facility filled with 3 inch binders, scrapbooks really, with copies of every article, every written word ever printed about Al Davis.
As far fetched as it sounds, if that is the case, it wouldn’t surprise me if Al was actually on here to read the pulse of the fans, and what they are saying about him. Sounds crazy doesn’t it? Maybe that wasn’t Rich-O blowing that horn in Kell’s phone. LOL.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Plain and simple, the old man needs help with his franchise.
The law of diminishing returns…the old man is not capable of doing what he did at 50…60…70..
He needs to use those boney fingers and dial somebody for help.
A GM and Director of Player Personell would be a start.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
RMR
The thing about Davis loyalists, they don’t give a damn if the Raiders win or lose.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Russell is only here because of Al Davis’s scorn toward Lane Kiffin.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Kell, oh yes they do. You should see them on gameday. They were making death threats. It was hilarious. They really, really get mad. They really wake up sunday morning thinking the Raiders are a good team on the verge of turning it around any given game. They really think that. IT’s one thing to root for your team. But they go beyond that. They wake up every sunday in the fall thinking that this is it. The 7 year skid ends today, the Raiders are back on top. These people are not normal. Something is wrong with them. And my god, are they fun to make fun of when the Raiders lose. They just squirm.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
RMR
The thing about Davis loyalists, they don’t give a damn if the Raiders win or lose.
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The acceptance of mediocrity and LOSING is UNACCEPTABLE!
March 17th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
come on MR you dont really believe that..
March 17th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
That could be true, Krappy.
But guaranteed, not a single Davis’ loyalist thinks the problem can be solved by posting the Raiders record over the last 7 years a billion times on a football blog.
So … that makes you lower than them, huh?
Don’t worry, I answer that for you. Yes, it does.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
408, anyone who is loyal to Al Davis needs to be watched. Something is not right. I have no problem with Raider fans in and of their selves, but to be loyal to Al Davis, at this point? It’s not good.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Beecham, it’s impossible to be lower than a Davis loyalist, no matter what you do. There is nothing lower.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
MR, The old mans record speaks for itself. (the last 7 years)
Anyone that runs from that or sugar coats it…I’d consider them an Al Davis loyalist.
What I don’t understand, is why someone would be on a blog to simply bash the obvious.
It’s like screaming into the wilderness.
Is it a cathartic experience?
I’m opimistic by nature, I get teased about it by freinds from time to time.
The point is, The Raiders have sucked for a while. Will it get better? I think it can. Even with the old man at the helm.
March 17th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
Thanks guys. I don’t consider myself an Al Davis Loyalist. Just a realist. I am hoping you only get to bag on us 7 or 8 times this year. Hoping I said. Happy St. Patricks day to you all. Go Raiders.
March 17th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
# buckeyeraider Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Rich-O,
Thanks for the computer advice the other day. Maybe I was out of line for sticking my nose into other people’s “bidness”. I just thought some of the personal stuff was getting out of hand. But who the hell am I to say.
Richochet: Welcome on the advice, and no biggee on the other. It’s offseason..I mean how many mock drafts can one read? lol….
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For whatever reason, you’ve always been cool to me.
So, what happened during Super Bowl week in ‘02? What did Al do to pizz everybody off? I have no idea to what you were alluding to.
RICHOCHET:
Super Bowl.
League allotted out set amount of tickets to team to distribute to front office, players, and set amount for fans. (not that many, all things considered..NFL takes care of EVERYONE before the participating teams fans).
After announcing which fans received tickets, it came to the attention of the NFL that a couple of THOUSAND tickets weren’t accounted for..as in “send us our money for tickets sold”.
Raiders tried to pass off the discrepancy as they “used them for front office personnel” except even if everyone got 10 ducats each, from the janitor on up, (which is against the rules for distributing) there were STILL COUPLE THOUSAND NOT ACCOUNTED FOR..
Soooo…finally Al admitted that he had HELD BACK TICKETS DESTINED FOR FANS in order to try and entice luxury box prospective clients..(he has the right to do that with TICKETS DESIGNATED TO THE TEAM AND ORGANIZATION, BUT NOT TICKETS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO GO TO FANS….sooooo..NOW..Raiders, with egg on face, admit “ok we have tickets for fans..
except..
now it’s Monday of SB week..no time to divvy up tickets and get them out to fans…so..we’re going to pull FANS NAMES FROM A LOTTERY, and then we’re going to CALL FANS TO INFORM THEM THEY ARE ENTITLED TO TWO TICKETS..
oh..and IF WE CALL AND YOU AREN’T HOME? Sorry..we go to the next person on the list.
NOW A WHOLE SLEW OF RAIDER TICKET HOLDERS stayed home from work, in the event they got a call..obviously most didn’t.
Now..those that did get a call? had to go by after 4PM Friday to will call, to pick up tickets.
Lot’s couldn’t get to will call friday night before will call closed, so had to go Sat.
Then had to leave right from will call and drive to San Diego for the SB on Sunday.
OBVIOUSLY ALL THE HOTEL ROOMS WERE ALREADY BOOKED..so many/most had to sleep in their cars…
ALL BECAUSE AL HELD BACK TICKETS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO GO TO FANS TO BEGIN WITH.
And it gets worse.
After the SB?
Alameda Cty had scheduled a parade, paid for by the county to say thanks to the Raiders, regardless of win or lose…AL REFUSED TO ALLOW THE TEAM TO GO…ALL BECAUSE OF AL’S ONGOING PISSING CONTEST WITH THE COUNTY…County stated publicly ‘Well do whatever Al wants to do..whatever day he wants..just call us and let us know, and we’ll schedule it”
Al never called..no one called.
So..a Fan Appreciation Day was scheduled shortly thereafter, not a parade, just an outing..fans show up, players show up etc…
AND AL ALSO VETOED THAT..told the whole team they are not allowed to attend. No coaches, no players..no one.
Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Rich Gannon and many others stated that was total BS. Rice stated he was embarrassed that Al would do that to the fans, and the team, because of his silly battles, and that fans deserved it..and so did the team.
Allegedly over 4000 fans showed up, expecting players and coaches to be there, only to wait and wait..finally being told Al wouldn’t allow players to attend.
That was the beginning of the end for many fans as far as how they felt about Al..
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March 17th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Russell didnt look like he lost a pound. Face/neck still chubby and you can see his Santa-gut rounded forward over the top of the car door.
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March 18th, 2010 at 7:59 am
RMR said:
” but to be loyal to Al Davis, at this point? It’s not good.”
I like that. You make that statement in a non-inflammatory, above the belt, matter of fact manner.
Are u feeling okay?
March 18th, 2010 at 10:03 am
Russell is not saying anything because he has poor english skills!!! Listen to his previous interviews… They are just flat out BAD!! He cannot handle himself speaking in a public forum..
March 20th, 2010 at 9:57 am
i hope hue jackson will install the wild cat,but i didn’t see it in baltimore,so i doubht it.it would be great for d-mac.russell may have no heart,but he has 10 million dollars.in his defense,paul hackett is an idiot.russell should improvement under greg knapp,but he left and you saw the results with hackett….