Could McCloughan saga end in Oakland?
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, March 19th, 2010 at 11:02 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The signals in the Scot McCloughan story are so mixed and confused it looks as if he could wind up in Oakland.
McCloughan’s father, Kent McCloughan, was an All-AFL Raiders cornerback and remains a Raiders scout.
McCloughan’s brother, Dave, also worked for the Raiders.
During Raiders-49ers joint practices over the past two years, McCloughan made long stops at the golf cart where Al Davis was watching, paying his respects and trading ideas.
In conversations and e-mails with different media outlets, McCloughan has seemed to indicate he wasn’t ready to leave while at the same time conceding family issues had been an issue.
Perhaps it’s all designed to keep things as muddled as possible before an agreement is reached, but it’s clear McCloughan is done with the 49ers.
It’s been speculated already McCloughan could be headed toward Green Bay, where he worked under Ted Thompson and was a disciple of Ron Wolf.
Wolf, of course, was a Raiders exec during the glory years. Depending on who you talk to, Wolf was either solely responsible for the Raiders success or watched dutifully as Davis spun his magic.
In any event, there’s a lineage between McCloughan and the Raiders. He understands how Davis thinks, and having been a general manager, would be willing to speak his mind and disagree. And despite the popular perception, Davis invites dissent and debate. (He may not be swayed by it, but that’s another story).
If you’ve ever spent 10 minutes with McCloughan, it’s abundantly clear he’s not shy about giving his opinion. He’s sure enough of himself to know he’ll always get another job.
Sometimes that’s what it takes to succeed with the Raiders. That’s what Pat Swilling said about Jon Gruden in 1998 when asked why Gruden could succeed where others had failed.
“Because he knows he can get another job,” Swilling said.
As much as been made about not wanting to work for Davis, there’s an unspoken factor to consider.
Davis is 80 years old. Perhaps he’ll go another decade making all the decisions, more likely he won’t. Davis has said on the record he is looking for someone to help with the football operation. Some of his most trusted employees and former employees have been shaking their heads, saying he needs help. John Madden said it on the record in a Q&A with the New York Post.
Q: Should Al Davis hire a football czar?
Madden: I think he knows that he should. When he had Bruce Allen and Jon Gruden, that was a pretty good team.
McCloughan is more of a personnel guy than Allen. He’s not a coach, like Gruden, But, at some point, an executive who knows, likes and understands Davis might get himself in position to have a major say in running an NFL franchise.
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March 19th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
First
March 19th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
I don’t like McCloughan. Why? I will tell you. He signed nate clement for a huge money not worth his talent. He also wasted money in signing Tully Banta Cain along with Michael Lewis a washed up safety who left the eagles. As far as the draft, Vernon Davis, Satele and Patrick Wilis are all good but in the bottom draft, he got guys that havent done nothing like Jason Hill, Glenn Coffee, etc. He also drafted Balmer a clear bust in the making. Matter fact, with the exception of Josh Morgan, 49ers had the worst draft in 2008. My point, he is no genius and he sucks, I dont want him and we dont need him. I will take Mike Mayock anytime.
March 19th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
It’s not as crazy as it sounds. His dad is one of the more trusted scouts in this organization and a very nice man. His son David is damn near a genius as far as designing and understanding secondaries. He will leave you speelbound if you alk to him about secondary schemes.
I don’t know Scot as well as I do his father and brother but if he’sanything like his father he’s very knowledgable. They are a family of football lifers. Like the Harbaughs we drafted David McCloughan in the second rnd out of Michigan. His father Kent played for us for what some ten years or so. Great player.
I could definitely see Scot coming over and helping out.
March 19th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
4eve,
You are very right he did make some mistakes but he didn’t have Al Davis and his father to bounce things off. This situation may be tailor made for Scot to be very successful. Davis has spawned some outstanding front office men. This may be great for both parties and the timing might be perfect. I know I loved talking to David and Kent. Scot can’t be too far from the tree.
March 19th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
4eve,
It’s a lot easier to do what Mike mayock does because his ass isn’t on the line. Talking is much easier than doing. Put his ass in the front office and tie his job to a mistake like Brady Quinn. And see how long he last.
My point is Scot can learn a ton from Mr Davis and grow into his job. The 49ers was his 1st job as a GM. Most GM’s get better as do coaches on their second stop. This team is run totally different from the niners. I think it helps him.
March 19th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
When I look at mccloughan I see a rat, just like that lame sniffin kid. I don’t know what it is but his eyes ain’t right.):
March 19th, 2010 at 11:50 pm
# Tom cables pimp hand Says:
March 19th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
When I look at mccloughan I see a rat, just like that lame sniffin kid. I don’t know what it is but his eyes ain’t right.):
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if he is just half as good as Lane Kiffin to identify talent, Id hire him in a second, we need a guy before the draft to safe our draft, so Al doesn’t ruin it again…
I say bring him in, our situation cant get any worse, so it might even make us better, im all for that…
March 19th, 2010 at 11:53 pm
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March 19th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
HIRE McCloughan as the Head of Player Personnel Decisions and to help with this years draft!
His family has ties to the Raiders and hiring him would only help!
Sheesh!
March 20th, 2010 at 12:03 am
# Raiders4eve Says:
March 19th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
I don’t like McCloughan. Why? I will tell you. He signed nate clement for a huge money not worth his talent. He also wasted money in signing Tully Banta Cain along with Michael Lewis a washed up safety who left the eagles. As far as the draft, Vernon Davis, Satele and Patrick Wilis are all good but in the bottom draft, he got guys that havent done nothing like Jason Hill, Glenn Coffee, etc. He also drafted Balmer a clear bust in the making. Matter fact, with the exception of Josh Morgan, 49ers had the worst draft in 2008. My point, he is no genius and he sucks, I dont want him and we dont need him. I will take Mike Mayock anytime.
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Hmm…if his drafts were so bad….then why are the Niners a better overall team than the Raiders right now?
I would rather have McCloughan making personnel decisions and having input in the draft than the senile old man Al.
March 20th, 2010 at 12:05 am
# La Milicia Negra Says:
March 19th, 2010 at 11:50 pm
# Tom cables pimp hand Says:
March 19th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
When I look at mccloughan I see a rat, just like that lame sniffin kid. I don’t know what it is but his eyes ain’t right.):
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if he is just half as good as Lane Kiffin to identify talent, Id hire him in a second, we need a guy before the draft to safe our draft, so Al doesn’t ruin it again…
I say bring him in, our situation cant get any worse, so it might even make us better, im all for that…
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Yep!
March 20th, 2010 at 12:06 am
banta Cain is now a star.
March 20th, 2010 at 12:08 am
Banta Cain 55 tackles, 10 sacks with the Ne. signed a 3 yr 19 mil…
March 20th, 2010 at 12:10 am
I would take him in a heart beat. How do you think the niners feel about losing him weeks before the draft. a good freind of mine who is a niner fans is sick about it. This could be the shot in the arm we need, and long over due.
March 20th, 2010 at 12:16 am
# Thec07 Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 12:06 am
banta Cain is now a star.
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yup, I always liked him, anyhoo, he is not any worse than some of our linebackers, they just refuse to stop the run…
March 20th, 2010 at 12:17 am
Thec…
What?!??! you are friends with niners???…
LOL, jk, hmm or am i =)
March 20th, 2010 at 12:25 am
yeah LMN, it happens….
March 20th, 2010 at 12:28 am
thec..
well at least you are a positive influence on him, guys like us would never thought of being such =)
as a friend of mine said, Niners is like minors… treat’em like it =)
March 20th, 2010 at 12:30 am
dknight the ninerz are better because they get to play the rams and seahawks twice a year and they know the cardinals like the back of their hand.
March 20th, 2010 at 12:37 am
Why’d he get fired?
March 20th, 2010 at 12:38 am
# Tom cables pimp hand Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 12:30 am
dknight the ninerz are better because they get to play the rams and seahawks twice a year and they know the cardinals like the back of their hand.
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Bwahahhahaha, so you claim the AFC west is tough?
btw, division games only count for 6games, what about other 10 games?
not much logic wasted on you, well, No the Niners isnt a top-league team, but neither are we, we SUCK, we are the prison b1tch of the league, we get slapped around and it seems like those in power dont get why..
So he11 yeah we need help if McCloughan is that one, lets see him, at least it cant get any worse than it already is, we cant live with another wasted draft from Al Davis.
We need someone who he respects, not someone we respect to tell him back off, dont know if i Al will listen, but it seems McCloughan might be able to get though Als thick skull…
WE NEED HELP, period…
March 20th, 2010 at 12:41 am
# Nnamdi21 Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 12:37 am
Why’d he get fired?
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I bellieve it first said he was resigning, then his agent said thats not the case, then he was sent home…
So i figure he hasnt clean hands, maybe he said the raiders were better than the niners, or maybe he said Randy Hanson should get suckerpunched… dunno… well Im sure we will know soon, and if its anything bad, Im sure Al will be more intrigued to hire him =)
March 20th, 2010 at 12:56 am
No im not sayin the afc west is tough but i do believe its tougher than the afc west. And the niners were only 3 games better than us this year and i honestly feel if we would have had any other qb on our roster starting for us other than jamarcus we would have won 3 more games than we did atleast… “at least” 3 more games.
March 20th, 2010 at 12:57 am
Like everyone else, I just hope he has that Gruden/Kiffin mentality. Otherwise, he’s useless, no matter how smart he is.
March 20th, 2010 at 12:58 am
typo. I meant its tougher than the nfc west.
March 20th, 2010 at 12:59 am
We’ve had a ton of smart people come through Oakland. If they don’t have the gumption to take Al on, forget it. They might as well not know what a nickel defense is.
March 20th, 2010 at 1:03 am
Cable’s pimp hand, I think we win one more game without Russell. Take that game against Pittsburgh. That’s it. Same if we’re in the NFC west. Look what eventually happened to Grad. Our offensive line is so bad, nobody can play here. Bad o line, bad play calling, complete chaos throughout the week at the team facility, which Al likes, I understand? Peyton Manning would suck here. Rather or not Russell is really a bust won’t be decided until he gets a crack at playing QB on a real NFL team.
March 20th, 2010 at 1:07 am
The thing that kills me bout al is he hires people for their opinion but if he doesnt like it he fires their ass.lol Even if it works. smh With that stated al doesnt need a gm cus its not like hes honestly gonna listen to him anyways so he might as well save that mill or two he’d pay a gm for Nnamdis contract when it expires again.smh
March 20th, 2010 at 1:07 am
# Mistabr0wn Says:
March 19th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
This is a lie.
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# Seymour Bush Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Jay Richardson actually was quite productive in the limited playing time he had last year. Surprisingly quite productive.
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How is this a lie? Elaborate.
March 20th, 2010 at 1:10 am
# Richochet Says:
March 19th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
Mommy!!!!!
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
March 20th, 2010 at 1:10 am
Naw with another qb other than jamarcus I say we win that first sandiego game, second kansas city game, and that redskins game if grads doesnt get hurt.
March 20th, 2010 at 1:16 am
# Richochet Says:
March 19th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Seriously, though, Tim Tebow does make me hard.
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March 20th, 2010 at 1:20 am
# Richochet Says:
March 19th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
How sweet…the cross posting POS is now cross posting using my handle.
Seymour/Oakglenn/Debo/Wolf/etc…you’re fooling no one.
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March 20th, 2010 at 1:22 am
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March 20th, 2010 at 2:26 am
# Richochet Says:
March 19th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
I’m out. Time to go eat some oatmeal and pass out in front of the television again watching Sanford and Son reruns. My life is pathetic. I’m so glad my wife supports me.
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Why does this NOT shock anyone?
March 20th, 2010 at 2:26 am
# Richochet Says:
March 19th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
I’m out. Time to go eat some oatmeal and pass out in front of the television again watching Sanford and Son reruns. My life is pathetic. I’m so glad my wife supports me.
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Why does this NOT shock anyone?
March 20th, 2010 at 2:26 am
Exactly, if Grads doesn’t get hurt. But he did get hurt, because of our o line. People who think Russell is the reason we’re losing are in denial.
March 20th, 2010 at 2:26 am
better go now, now when the clowns have arrived… se you guys when its morning in your parts
March 20th, 2010 at 2:26 am
Exactly, if Grads doesn’t get hurt. But he did get hurt, because of our o line. People who think Russell is the reason we’re losing are in denial.
March 20th, 2010 at 4:20 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
alright everybody.
give me your pick for the Raiders in Round 1
I don’t need trade scenarios or “what Al Davis will do”
who do you want?
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Trent Williams
March 20th, 2010 at 4:47 am
NorthernD,
A man named Davis or a boy named Suh. OT priority but DT not bad.
March 20th, 2010 at 4:54 am
>>Wolf, of course, was a Raiders exec during the glory years. Depending on who you talk to, Wolf was either solely responsible for the Raiders success or watched dutifully as Davis spun his magic.>>>
Jerry, Jerry, Jerry. Why does MSM continue to lie in this country? Here’s what Ron Wolf has actually said about working for Al Davis…
“I had an opportunity to learn from — to me — the greatest figure in the game today, Al Davis. He knows every aspect of the game of professional football –
not just the X’s and O’s but from the business standpoint and the talent standpoint. He is totally involved, and he taught me. I was very, very fortunate
to work for him.”
Give Ron credit for guys like Snake and Kinlaw, but Ron himself gave credit for Marcus and Upshaw to Al…Ron was a great personnell guy but like all great personnel guys he needed somebody great with him. Ron was great with Al and Holmgren but not so great when he wasn’t surround with those two.
March 20th, 2010 at 6:06 am
Could McCloughan saga end in Oakland?
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Anything is better, then that old man!!
March 20th, 2010 at 6:25 am
Being sarcastic?
March 20th, 2010 at 6:29 am
Got this dance that’s more than real
Drink Brass Monkey – here’s how you feel
“Put your left leg down, your right leg up,
Tilt your head back, and let’s finish the cup!!”
“Brass Monkey that funky Monkey,
Brass Monkey junkie,
That funky Monkey!!!”
March 20th, 2010 at 6:38 am
Republican Raiders?!
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
March 20th, 2010 at 6:45 am
NorthernD Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 4:20 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
alright everybody.
give me your pick for the Raiders in Round 1
I don’t need trade scenarios or “what Al Davis will do”
who do you want?
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Trent Williams
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Agreed. I can’t see Suh getting past the Bucs 31st ranked run D.
If KC goes Berry and Cleve goes Hayden, Bulaga may be there for us. IMO, he’s the most plug and play ready guy in the draft.
I’d take Williams. Davis has weight, motivational issues (Sound familiar?) and Bruce Campell has poor techinuqe and little to no experience. A project this team and O cannot afford on a 7 yr skid.
March 20th, 2010 at 6:49 am
21, in that case (7yr skid), trade our pick! The same way we did with Seymour!
March 20th, 2010 at 6:52 am
r8eray Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 6:49 am
21, in that case (7yr skid), trade our pick! The same way we did with Seymour!
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For who?! Jared Gaither? McNabb?
March 20th, 2010 at 6:57 am
Wilfork!
March 20th, 2010 at 6:58 am
CDS 2010 Mock Draft -http://cdsdraft.com/
Round 1
#1 Sam Bradford
#2 Russell Okung
#3 Ndamukong Suh
#4 Jimmy Clausen
#5 Eric Berry
#6 C.J. Spiller
#7 Joe Haden
#8 Gerald McCoy
#9 Anthony Davis
#10 Dez Bryant
#11 Rolando McClain
#12 Derrick Morgan
#13 Earl Thomas
#14 Taylor Mays
#15 Carlos Dunlap
#16 Sergio Kindle
#17 Trent Williams
#18 Mike Iupati
#19 Sean Weatherspoon
#20 Donovan Warren
#21 Jahvid Best
#22 Brandon Graham
#23 Jason Pierre-Paul
#24 Bryan Bulaga
#25 Brandon Spikes
#26 Bruce Campbell
#27 Terrence Cody
#28 Ryan Mathews
#29 Golden Tate
#30 Kyle Wilson
#31 Brandon LaFell
#32 Maurkice Pouncey
March 20th, 2010 at 6:58 am
r8eray Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 6:57 am
Wilfork!
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More than a #1 pick.
March 20th, 2010 at 7:01 am
Hope that Clausen falls to us and someone wants to trade up to get him.
Take their first, second and an established O lineman
March 20th, 2010 at 7:03 am
Seattle might bite on Clausen or Cleveland but Hawks need a tackle too and Cleve needs secondary help with Hayden or Berry.
March 20th, 2010 at 7:04 am
If we land McCoy, there is no reason to trade!!
March 20th, 2010 at 7:07 am
Here is the NFL draft that has Suh falling to us at #8
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d816ffb3c&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
March 20th, 2010 at 7:08 am
1. St. Louis Rams
Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
The Rams select Bradford to be their franchise quarterback of the future after doctors express confidence about his long-term health prospects. (Previous pick: Ndamukong Suh)
2. Detroit Lions
Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
Jim Schwartz opts against adding a centerpiece to his defense to give Stafford some protection on the backside; Okung’s presence allows LT Jeff Backus to move inside to his natural guard position. (Previous pick: Gerald McCoy)
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
Raheem Morris grapples with the decision to choose McCoy over Suh, but the former Sooner star is a better fit in the Bucs’ one-gap scheme. (Previous pick: Jason Pierre-Paul)
4. Washington Redskins
Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
Jimmy Clausen is in play at this spot, but the need for a franchise-caliber left tackle to replace Chris Samuels is a bigger priority. (Previous pick: Russell Okung)
March 20th, 2010 at 7:08 am
This freak will work as a Raider.
5th round=Brandon Carter Guard
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/360154-2010-mock-draft-oakland-raiders-edition-40?utm_campaign=buzztap&utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter#page/8
March 20th, 2010 at 7:09 am
5. Kansas City Chiefs
Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
The thought of nabbing Suh is appealing considering his high grade, but the addition of Bulaga addresses the Chiefs’ biggest need on the offensive line. (Previous pick: Trent Williams)
6. Seattle Seahawks
Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
The Seahawks’ offer to Charlie Whitehurst indicates the team will address their QB concerns in free agency; Davis gives the team a solid replacement for Walter Jones. (Previous pick: Derrick Morgan)
7. Cleveland Browns
Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
Mike Holmgren will seriously consider pulling the trigger on Jimmy Clausen, but Berry is an impact player capable of upgrading the Browns’ secondary with his playmaking ability. (Previous pick: Joe Haden)
8. Oakland Raiders
Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
Al Davis throws off the skeptics expecting an outlandish pick from the Silver and Black; Suh gives the defense a legitimate difference-maker in the middle of the line. (Previous pick: Anthony Davis
March 20th, 2010 at 7:09 am
7th round John Conner FB
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/360154-2010-mock-draft-oakland-raiders-edition-40?utm_campaign=buzztap&utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter#page/10
March 20th, 2010 at 7:11 am
Fug Plunk. I mentioned months ago what it would belike to have Suh AND Seymour. That would be pretty sweet.
Can’t see him getting past Tampa though.
March 20th, 2010 at 7:13 am
We will all find out here, in about a month!
March 20th, 2010 at 7:19 am
Richochet Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 7:13 am
I’m a business owner!!! I gots 18 employees working under me. I am the king. You all can go f yo selves.
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Gawd do I feel sorry for anyone who has to work for Bishochet.
March 20th, 2010 at 7:26 am
Damn Chet…..I was giving you the benefit of the doubt!! But after that comment….I guess everyone was right!! You can go “f” your self!!
March 20th, 2010 at 7:32 am
R8,
I love Monkeys!
Talking Monkeys, space Monkeys, and driving Monkeys.
You Monkeys…..
March 20th, 2010 at 7:34 am
If Suh falls to us at 8th, I will kiss a Monkey.
March 20th, 2010 at 7:36 am
I’ll do more then just kiss a monkey!
March 20th, 2010 at 7:40 am
Does’t Raider Station know that Marinovich never went to Oakland but L.A. I guess that is what happens when your desperate to make a point.
March 20th, 2010 at 7:44 am
R8
Thats not rico. Someone got real ticked at him yesterday and is using his name.
March 20th, 2010 at 7:49 am
From PFT
Suh’s agent insists the Rams are still in play
Three months ago, when the St. Louis Rams clinched the first pick in the NFL draft, the conventional wisdom was that they’d select Nebraska defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh.
But now the conventional wisdom has swung so far in the direction of the Rams selecting Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford that Suh’s agent, Roosevelt Barnes, feels the need to insist that the Rams haven’t definitively picked Bradford over his client.
March 20th, 2010 at 7:49 am
R8eray,
Lobo’s 2 point underdogs today. What do you think?
March 20th, 2010 at 7:53 am
Sure I do.
You are one of the trolls who has been harassing people here for over three years.
We have to live with the daily pissing matches here at Scarys but we cant have trolls using regged nicknames.
Nobody deserves or appreciates that.
March 20th, 2010 at 7:55 am
It’s interesting to note that when you look at the Raider’s draft history, there is a break at 1990, after which the first round picks become much more questionable (Todd Marinovich in 1991 et seq). That is right around the time that Ron Wolf left the Raiders.
March 20th, 2010 at 8:09 am
Vegas. I’m all over that!! Going to Aliante Station right now!!
March 20th, 2010 at 8:20 am
could he really do any worse? Anything would be an improvement from where we are now.
March 20th, 2010 at 8:21 am
O Mock Draft 13.0:
1- DT Trade up for SUH
2- HB J Best
3- ILB B Spikes
4- DE Austen Lane
5- OT Sam Young or Ciron Black
5- CB Walter Thurmond or Stoudamire
7- FB
Or:
1- OT T Williams, A Davis, or Campbell
2- DT Lamarr Houston
3- ILB Spikes
4- DE Austen Lane
5- OL Ciron Black
5- CB Walter Thurmond or Stoudamire
7- FB
March 20th, 2010 at 8:31 am
hahaha very funny.
And that proves my point.
March 20th, 2010 at 9:10 am
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March 20th, 2010 at 9:21 am
it doesn’t matter if suh is there and alva drafts him.the run defense will always suck because they play way too much man coverage.we need way more zone coverage or 2 deep zones,more blitzing.its always the same 4 man front on 3rd down.the defense is lost in the 80’s schemes.time to catch up with the nfl in 2010,not 1985.they should draft a left tackle and move mario henderson to rt,and get rid of cornell green.oh yeah,we have mcfadden but don’t run the wildcat.talk about misusing talent.it is a waste to think al will do the things he should do,he won’t….i could do a better job drafting and evaluating talent than alva and his yes men….they could have won the division with better management and coaching….its a joke to be a raider fan thesedays
March 20th, 2010 at 9:23 am
LMAO @ WalterFootball.
Their Mock draft for the Raiders is based on 40 times, and then every pick says “he is a great player”
Their Mock Draft:
1- OT Campbell ran a 4.8
2- DT G Atkins ran a 4.75
3- TE Dorin Dickerson ran a 4.4
4- OG M Newhouse ran a sub 5.0
March 20th, 2010 at 9:34 am
You clowns kill me. Any time the Raiders are having trouble it is because Al Davis makes ALL THE CALLS AND HE WILL NOT LISTEN TO OTHERS. But you write that Wolf was the reason for the Glory years as if during those years Al Davis made no decisions. You cannot have it both ways dingaling.
I have seen Wolf when he was questioned about his time with the Raiders and Al Davis. Those were the years that developed him and Wolf has come from the root of Al Davis. Proof read your articles before posting because talking out of both sides of your mouth not only shows your bias but makes you look like an ^%$ and a fool.
March 20th, 2010 at 9:40 am
al used to be ahead of the curve,now he is 20 years behind it….
March 20th, 2010 at 11:35 am
OK, Richochet, and this blog was a real meeting of the minds BEFORE people started cloning your name. Self importance issues, have we?
March 20th, 2010 at 11:39 am
Lhaye, exactly. The thing is, why doesn’t Al Davis make runs at top notch defensive players? Why not peppers, merriman? Sure, go over their cons all you want to, is it worse than what we have now? Both of those guys are football players. The only real moves Davis made on defense was overpaying the bums that were on the wire in ‘08, sans maybe Gibril Wilson. But you get a couple of more players like that, and they will TAKE CONTROL of our defense, and THAT is what Al Davis is afraid of. These pro bowl caliber defenders will not just sit there and play man all day, no matter what some Al Davis puppet defensive coordinator tells them. Rod Woodson was not manning up when he was here. He was helping out over the top. That pick he got against Denver..he wasn’t covering anyone. He went into position where he knew Griese would throw that ball. Zone coverage saved that muther flipping season. I think the reason Davis avoids top notch defenders is because they won’t play his man b.s., and he knows it. They’ll just go out there and call their own defenses if they have some Davis puppet telling them to play man every down. Players like that refuse to lose.
March 20th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Bentley, no doubt. All you have to do is contrast Ron Wolf’s career record with Al’s. Ron leaves Oakland, wins in Green Bay. Davis can’t get the Raiders off of the ground after Wolf leaves, until Gruden arrives. It’s obvious.
March 20th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
My pick for RRS Poll:
I assmume:
1) Bradford
2) Okung
3) McCoy
4) Suh
5) Bulaga
6) Claussen
7) Berry
March 20th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
I keep doing some mocks over at BSPN and a good prospect will fall to #8.
It will depend on who Washington and Cleveland take.
Wash is going to get Okung or Clausen and the Browns will take Berry or Clausen.
The Queefs will get Okung, Bulaga or Berry.
I don’t see Seattle taking Clausen, now that they have up a bit too much for Whitehurst.
March 20th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
I think Niners should snatch Spiller at #13 to make up for passing on Desean Jackson a few years ago. Spiller would make their offense more dangerous. Their defense is fine.
Spiller would compliment Gore perfectly….Coffee is not the answer as a backup.
March 20th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
I don’t see Seattle taking Clausen, now that they have up a bit too much for Whitehurst.
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Someone else was saying Seattle gave up a 2nd rounder and a late rounder for Whitehurst. That’s not right. Seattle only swapped 2nd round picks with San Diego, got Whitehurst, and gave up an undisclosed 2011 pick, probably a pick based on Whitehurst’s playing time and accomplishments.
March 20th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Seattle may want Clausen, just not with the 6th pick.
Swap our 8 for their 14?. Get Hasselback, their round two pic and the 14th pick.
March 20th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
# Plunketthead Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Seattle may want Clausen, just not with the 6th pick.
Swap our 8 for their 14?. Get Hasselback, their round two pic and the 14th pick.
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Hasselbeck is a two time Pro Bowl Q who has been to a Super Bowl. He is not just some throw in player. In other words there is NO WAY Seattle is going to give us their 2nd rounder AND Pro Bowl starting Q to move back six spots. Ain’t gonna happen.
March 20th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Al,
Trade up for Suh. This guy is a Beast!
6′4 310, ran a 4.9, and had 32 reps on the bench.
He played in 27 games the Last 2 years, and he had: 161 TKL, 40 TFL, AND 19.5 SACKS!!!!!
BEAST!!
March 20th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Suh can stop the run, he can Tackle, and he can rush the passer.
IMHO he is one of the top DT prospects in the last 15 years. (D Russell (RIP), Big Albert, Nagata, and Suh)
March 20th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Basically do the exact opposite of the last 3 years!!!
Go Raiders!
March 20th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
We can’t afford to trade up for Suh.
If anything, we need to be trying to trade back and acquire more picks.
March 20th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
I think it’s pretty safe to say that Bradford, Okung, Suh, McCoy will be gone before we pick.
The other 2 players are the wildcards. Haden, Claussen, Spiller, any of the OTs, Pierre-Paul. Any of those 2 could go.
March 20th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Most all of this draft talk in here is just fantasy.
I thought that was the purpose of us talking about different draft schemes since the third game of the season.
Besides Hasslback is old and washed up. Pete is going in a different direction and he wants a young QB that he can groom for the next 6 years.
Maybe Al just gets Matt without a second. Stranger things have happened
March 20th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
# jhill Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
I think it’s pretty safe to say that Bradford, Okung, Suh, McCoy will be gone before we pick.
The other 2 players are the wildcards. Haden, Claussen, Spiller, any of the OTs, Pierre-Paul. Any of those 2 could go.
^^^^^^^^
Berry should be gone before #8 also. Berry should go to the Queefs or Browns.
Haden is not going in the top 10….no way.
March 20th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Yeah, Suh and Okung would be great picks for the Raiders but they won’t be there at #8 of course.
If the Seattle takes a OT and the Browns take Berry ahead of Claussen, the freakin old man Al better TRADE DOWN….because someone will want to trade up for Claussen!
I think J-Ville or Seattle may want to trade back up to get Claussen. Maybe Washington as well.
March 20th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
I saw the Total Access piece on Suh last nite. Wow, he goes 1 or 2, period!
March 20th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 6:45 am
NorthernD Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 4:20 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 18th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
alright everybody.
give me your pick for the Raiders in Round 1
I don’t need trade scenarios or “what Al Davis will do”
who do you want?
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Trent Williams
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Agreed. I can’t see Suh getting past the Bucs 31st ranked run D.
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Nnamdi21 and everyone else here,
Why is it that other teams with LOUSY run defenses are expected to upgrade theirs…while the Raiders run defense is “not that bad” or “can be fixed later” or “is just bad technique” or “just a play away from good”
B.S — here’s what I think…Raider fan appoaches football based ESPN highlight film and gets excited about Chris Berman saying “he could go all the way”
Football is won in the trenches and until Al Davis realizes this…this team will NEVER win again
March 20th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
SNB,
I agree…. DT Dan Williams or OT Trent Williams should be the pick at #8 if Suh or Okung can’t be had of course.
March 20th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Suh is not dropping to #8.
Raiders are not trading up. Would be too expensive and the Raiders have a bunch of holes to fill.
Raiders have decisions to make:
Do they like Mario Henderson?
Do they like Desmond Bryant as the NT?
Do they like Michael Huff?
That’s it folks.
March 20th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Raiders won’t be trading up or down. They will do like they do most years and stand pat at their position..which is #8 this year. They will then draft the player they think will help them win 3 years from now.
March 20th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Whatever happended to having guys like Sam Adams, Ted Washington, Darrell Russell, Chester McGlockton, Bill Pickel etc…
Since when did the Raiders become this soft finesse defense.
Softest most finesse team in the NFL.
No hitters in the LB corps…bunch of cover guys.
No hitters or run cloggers up the middle…a bunch of failed penetrators
Soft touch defense results in strong opponents grinding this defense into fine dust week after week after week.
Yet Raider fan has no problem with this
March 20th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Draft another fleet footed skill position player…or another pass rusher.
Raiders give up 156 yards rushing a game!
ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY SIX YARDS RUSHING A GAME
March 20th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
I like Mario Henderson better than Desmond Bryant or William Joseph at the NT
March 20th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Ryan Boschetti is still available.
LOL
March 20th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
SnB
Everyone wants to improve this defense including AL Davis, the problem is that we had dumb players playing the DT position and LB who are fast but can’t shed of their blockers, this will change, I can guarantee you that!!! Question you might be asking is how? Well, last year AL Davis gave up a first rounder to get Seymour but the problems still remained, from the tenders Howard and Morrison got, its clear that AL Davis doesn’t value them anymore as contributors to this defense. AL will draft a DT, I think he didn’t give up on TK yet but if he struggles this year, he will see himself benched. AL will also draft some LBs this year, a MLB will get drafted in the first two rounds. I seriously think AL will draft a defensive player the first two rounds and go with OL in the later rounds. This is not a hope, the signs are right there, cutting Warren, tendering Morrison low, trading for Wimbley, last year changing of Scott position as he clearly struggled against the run. Just wait until April 21, you will see the picture more clearly.
March 20th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Whatever happended to having guys like Sam Adams, Ted Washington, Darrell Russell, Chester McGlockton, Bill Pickel etc…
Since when did the Raiders become this soft finesse defense.
Softest most finesse team in the NFL.
No hitters in the LB corps…bunch of cover guys.
No hitters or run cloggers up the middle…a bunch of failed penetrators
Soft touch defense results in strong opponents grinding this defense into fine dust week after week after week.
Yet Raider fan has no problem with this
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I have a problem with the Raiders D looking like champions for 2 plays and then getting burned for a 48 yd TD on the 3rd play because the MLB and others are breaking their arms patting themselves on the back.
Morrison is out of position more than a lazy porn star.
March 20th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
119. Davis won’t do whats conventional or expected of him like doing the obvious and drafting run stoppers.
He’ll fix the D by fixing the O.
Or corner the market on kickers by drafting 4 of them.
March 20th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Is this the real RMR? I thought the guy was mid 30s.
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Snb Mario plays offense, and he sucks at it. JUST SHUT UP. Hey, I’m 17, and I know more than you, so why keep proving it? Go play Madden. You will learn like I did, which will make you smarter than most of them here.
March 20th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Raiders4eve,
I hope you are right this year. A lot of people say, fix the offense, and this will help the defense..but the reverse is true too. In fact, a defense that keeps the score low takes pressure off of our challenged QBs and allows us to stay in a run 1st offense.
I also think that the 1st rd pick on defense will have more inpact than on offense. Why? To me the offense struggles because Russell, DHB, Schilens, Murphy, Bush, McFadden haven’t matured yet. Was line play challenged…sure…but it was the RIGHT SIDE that hurt the running game and the passing game was due to the QB playing like shhhhh and DHB being unable to run a route or catch the ball.
So I say use that 1st pick on a DT and let that guy have a good impact on a defense with some talent in the secondary and defensive end.
March 20th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
110. “B.S — here’s what I think…Raider fan appoaches football based ESPN highlight film and gets excited about Chris Berman saying “he could go all the way”
Football is won in the trenches and until Al Davis realizes this…this team will NEVER win again”
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I’m not most raider fans.
I realize how Al Davis’s mind works and in order to fix the run D on his pass rush / coverage scheme the offense has to put up points to defend so the other team abandons the run and fights the clock to score.
That means offense.
That means offensive fire power.
That means fix the O line to fix the run D.
Didn’t say I agree with it. But at least I understand it.
And you?
March 20th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
“Morrison is out of position more than a lazy porn star.”
Lazy porn star? Your mother wasn’t a star. Lazy, yes, but a star not. Spreading wide for every bus of sailors that came by isn’t being a star. Go ask rockstar about mothers that open wide. He’ll tell ya.
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Yaaaawwwn…
Brilliant football insight. You;ve completely changed my mind about Morrison in realtion to the Raiders D scheme.
Brilliant!
March 20th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Make Amy Trask the general manager. I think she would kick a…
March 20th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
# Plunketthead Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Seattle may want Clausen, just not with the 6th pick.
Swap our 8 for their 14?. Get Hasselback, their round two pic and the 14th pick.
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Hasselbeck is a two time Pro Bowl Q who has been to a Super Bowl. He is not just some throw in player. In other words there is NO WAY Seattle is going to give us their 2nd rounder AND Pro Bowl starting Q to move back six spots. Ain’t gonna happen.
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It’ll happen…on Xbox.
March 20th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
I will agree with one thing, I think Tebow could be the bomb, and he’ll surprise a lot of people.
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Ppppfffffffftttt! (fart noise)
March 20th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
SnB
The reason I think AL will pick a defensive player is simple. AL praised Henderson game and this year it will be his fourth season, so AL will play wait and see especially since this year will be his final year under a rookie contract, so AL will need to make a decision on him this year and if he fails, you know we picking up LT next year. We also resigned Barnes and for those who say that is Cable pick, think again, Barnes barely played last year and AL wants to see if he can start at RT. With all this in mind, AL will pick a defensive player at 8 or he will take Dez Bryant (I doubt it since that will make it seem that he messed up in drafting DHB).
March 20th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Nnamdi21,
I don’t understand the “pass rush / cover d” concept. In order for that to work, you would have to get up by 17 to 20 points late in the game for the opponent to just give up on running the ball.
So what happens in the 1st half? If the run defense by design is bad, won’t the opponent just smashmouth run the football while keeping this “high powered offense off the field” Since the defense is not designed to stop the run…won’t they just get smashed by giving up the yards and losing clock and still giving up points.
How about a balanced defensive approach. Strong secondary, great pass rush, and a run clogging DT in the middle. That’s all….I am not saying the Raiders need to have big run studs everywhere….just get the NT. Especially given the pass coverage nature of our linebackers
March 20th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
138. Sounds good to me. You just have to sell it to the one man who pulls the trigger, Al Davis.
March 20th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Nnamdi21,
I think the idea of the Raiders getting a thumping lane filling MLB is more against the latest Davis philosophy than the NT.
Al Davis values speed. That’s been clear. So what MLB is he going to bring in? You know the guy is going to have to be able to run. What does that mean? Means this LB will probably not be physical and able to shed blocks and stay clean on his own.
Better to get that NT to sweep up the Guard or Center and let the fleet footed backers roam the field and make plays.
Also, stay tuned, but I think that Wimbley guy might end up the MLB
March 20th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Shut up Nam. you’re even more pathetic than MaddenRaider. Two stupid kids trying to act grownup
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Nnamdi21 Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
I will agree with one thing, I think Tebow could be the bomb, and he’ll surprise a lot of people.
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Ppppfffffffftttt! (fart noise)
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You’re insults don’t even make sense
March 20th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Nnamdi21,
I think the idea of the Raiders getting a thumping lane filling MLB is more against the latest Davis philosophy than the NT.
Al Davis values speed. That’s been clear. So what MLB is he going to bring in? You know the guy is going to have to be able to run. What does that mean? Means this LB will probably not be physical and able to shed blocks and stay clean on his own.
Better to get that NT to sweep up the Guard or Center and let the fleet footed backers roam the field and make plays.
Also, stay tuned, but I think that Wimbley guy might end up the MLB
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I’ve read some good things about the guy and hope he works out well.
March 20th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Nnamdi21,
My biggest complaint is the that the talent has been allocated to help the LBs and other positions…they just busted out….Morrison, Howard, Gallery, DHB, DMAC, Russell, Grove etc…
Yet, for the DT positions…all we’ve tried are a bunch of UFAs and scrap heap free agents like Gerard Warren, Terdell Sands and William Joseph.
The position has been neglected for so long. Time to invest there and see what happens
March 20th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Kamerion ran a 4.61 at the 2006 combine. Played in Romeo Crennel’s 3-4 too me thinks.
Give us an advantage against him and the Chefs me hopes…
March 20th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Nnamdi21,
Where does Kameron fit though? If he goes Strong side…then what happens to Howard? The Raiders clearly want to keep Howard with that 2nd round tender and his speed. If Kameron goes weak side, then what happens to Scott…who happens to be pretty effective there….
Does Kameron go to DE? Maybe he replaces Ellis. But Shaughnessy deserves playing time too….and Seymour is the DE on the other side.
I think Kameron is your next MLB
March 20th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Al doesn’t trade down, and he Is not going to reach for D Williams! Stop it! Al will reach for a skill player or he will trade up.
March 20th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Nnamdi21,
My biggest complaint is the that the talent has been allocated to help the LBs and other positions…they just busted out….Morrison, Howard, Gallery, DHB, DMAC, Russell, Grove etc…
Yet, for the DT positions…all we’ve tried are a bunch of UFAs and scrap heap free agents like Gerard Warren, Terdell Sands and William Joseph.
The position has been neglected for so long. Time to invest there and see what happens
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True.
Some scrap heapers and “potentials” who never paid off (Sands was a 7th rounder from KC, Warren and Jospeh are 1st rounders who never panned.
!!WARNING!!
Just cuz you pay a guy 1st round money doesn’t mean he’s going to perform at DT. More DTs bust than QBs.
Glen Dorsey and Sedrick Ellis haven’t exactly lit things up for all the money they’ve been paid.
March 20th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Nnamdi21,
If we are worried about busts in the 1st round…the Raiders couldn’t draft any position in the 1st round but Kickers.
Look at the Raider track record of 1st rounders in the 21st century alone. So are you saying we will never draft a cornerback or safety again in the 1st round…..please say it is so!
Oh, and Gallery is a big bust too. Left Guard DOES NOT equal Left Tackle……
and the high bust rate of WRs didn’t stop Davis from drafting the worst wide receiver in the draft at #7
March 20th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
The Saints are very happy with Sedrick Ellis
March 20th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Nnamdi21,
Where does Kameron fit though? If he goes Strong side…then what happens to Howard? The Raiders clearly want to keep Howard with that 2nd round tender and his speed. If Kameron goes weak side, then what happens to Scott…who happens to be pretty effective there….
Does Kameron go to DE? Maybe he replaces Ellis. But Shaughnessy deserves playing time too….and Seymour is the DE on the other side.
I think Kameron is your next MLB
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Howards weak side. Scott was an experiment and plays mostly with his hand in the dirt as a situational pass rusher. Yeah, I liked seeing him stand up and rush in blitz packages and I think you’ll see that from Kam too who has experience in the 3-4 we occasionally run.
Thin at CB so don’t be shocked if we go there in rnd 2.
March 20th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Nnamdi21,
If we are worried about busts in the 1st round…the Raiders couldn’t draft any position in the 1st round but Kickers.
Look at the Raider track record of 1st rounders in the 21st century alone. So are you saying we will never draft a cornerback or safety again in the 1st round…..please say it is so!
Oh, and Gallery is a big bust too. Left Guard DOES NOT equal Left Tackle……
and the high bust rate of WRs didn’t stop Davis from drafting the worst wide receiver in the draft at #7
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Agreed but that doesn’t mean Davis take a DT based on that.
He traditionally doesn’t like to pay those guys big money.
March 20th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Sedrick Ellis has played very well for the Saints and he has a World Championship ring. Dorsey has been disappointing for the Cheats to say the least.
March 20th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Nnamdi,
I thought they moved Howard over to the strong side and had Scott blitzing from the weak side. Regardless, I think Scott should be on the field for most downs…..and this guy from Cleveland and Howard will be on the field too…MLB?
I really hope Davis doesn’t draft a Dime Back in the 2nd round……especially with all the busts the Raiders have drafted in the last 10 years at that position…right
March 20th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Davis used to put money in the middle…McGlockton and Russell were 1st round draft picks. Unfortunately, that was 12+ yrs ago
March 20th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Nnamdi21,
Davis also doesn’t historically pay linebackers a lot of money either.
March 20th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Wow!
N. Iowa upsets over all #1 Kansas in the Tourny. Talk about a bracket buster.
March 20th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
What I see is total reaction, and pro or no for Jerry”s post. What it takes to be a RAIDER, is guts, determination, and the gloried past that has brought this team to it’s present problem? Our lines have sucked for years, Nobody has addressed that? All of a sudden after how many years, are we going to address this stupid lax of preperation? Duh? Don’t Blame it all on JR, given what he got, if he has it, we’ll be going somewhere soon, I think he deserves that chance.
March 20th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
Go raiders
March 20th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
Who lives in Dallas and smokes
March 20th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
What up raider o
March 20th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
Dam it only took 3 years but I finally was able to post on my blackberry
March 20th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
Dead in here tonight some please post so I can see how this works
March 20th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Test
March 20th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
It is being reported that AZ did not go after Porter right away because they wanted the LBer that the Raiders just brought in, in a trade Wimbley.
AZ went to Porter only after they were not able to pick up Wimbley. I can see how they would want him with him being Clevelands best player and only being 26 years of age.
March 20th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Good. Take that AZ. I don’t like their Coach and the angry fired up guy routine only works if you’re winning.
March 20th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Lets hope Schilens stays healthy all year.
March 20th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Dear Mr. Douchebag: Do the right thing and HIRE A GM FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.
March 20th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
Not to mention how hot it gets there in the summer
March 20th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
Let’s hope Chaz doesn’t get anymore of those “hang out to dry” passes that get you exposed, then creamed.
March 20th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Well, someone’s IP got banned for the crossposting fiasco last couple of days, whoever it was…child that they be.
March 20th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Can’t believe its snowing here in Dallas what a way to start spring of
March 20th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Off
March 20th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Now can you stop accusing me, Richochet?
March 20th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Just so everyone knows, this is the REAL Real MaddenRaider, and the last comment I left, before the one I just left at 8:04, was at 11:43 am today. Everything under my name from 11:43am and 8:04pm is not me. Believe what you want, think what you want. Just throwing it out there.
March 20th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Whatever MaddenMoron…all that means is an IP got banned. Doesn’t mean anyone can’t sign back in on another IP.
March 20th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
I feel like everybody should be honest about who they are and where they live
March 20th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Ron Wolf used to go out and get football players, not have the towel boys at the Raiders’ facility go online and play games to make Al look good and his critics look bad.
March 20th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
I believe you RMR, whoever that guy was, he said he was 17 yr old, I believe you in your mid 30s
March 20th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Most websites don’t ban by IP address, Richochet. This isn’t 2003. Most websites ban the actual computer, and then ban whatever other computers they suspect the banned person is using. They have software now that knows what computer you’re using, and that will keep banning you even if you know how to change your computer’s web identity.
March 20th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
I have a idea don’t talk a bunch of bull if your not willing to back it up
March 20th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
The dumbest thing they did on here is allow you to change your nickname. That’s the feature these guys are using. You just change your nickname then put whatever web address the person you’re cloning normally uses in your web address box in the setup section, or leave it blank if they don’t have one. They end that stupid feature, and this site is nearly clone proof. I’m sure there’s ways of still doing it but not any these dumbasses would know of. Remember, these guys think Al Davis can still run a football team. They’re not braniacs.
March 20th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
When I was 17 people were still using Tandys and Commodores, Raiders4eve.
March 20th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
lol
March 20th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
When I was 17 people were still using Tandys and Commodores, Raiders4eve.
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When I was a kid (imagine harp music) my brother and I begged for an Atari for Christmas.
We got an Odyssey instead. Have you ever heard of an Odyssey? No you haven’t, because it was a miserable piece of crap that no one else’s parents bought.
I can still remember my dad saying, “this is gonna be way bigger than Atari”.
So we had to envy all of our friends crappy Atari 2600’s and play our infinitely crappier Odyssey.
Thanks dad.
March 20th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
is richochet a troll because i thought it was spelled ricochet. makes me wonder because the few posts of his ive read he seems like he knows how to spell.
March 20th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
rmr must be old because i have absolutely no clue what a tandy or a commodore is.
March 20th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
The first home computers.
Think of a green screen with a flashing square cursor.
March 20th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
PassTheCheetos,
I always assumed that his real name was “Rich” and that he was just making a pun by using that nickname.
March 20th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
You guys need to quit complaining about the low quality of your first computing devices. I didn’t get my first computer until I was 17. It was a 386. This wouldn’t seem so bad if not for the fact that the year was 1997. Yeah… cry more.
March 20th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
I couldn’t even play Pac-Man Steve. Let alone Dig Dug, or Frogger.
It was a rough time for me, o.k.?
March 20th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
The dumbest thing they did on here is allow you to change your nickname. That’s the feature these guys are using. You just change your nickname then put whatever web address the person you’re cloning normally uses in your web address box in the setup section, or leave it blank if they don’t have one. They end that stupid feature, and this site is nearly clone proof. I’m sure there’s ways of still doing it but not any these dumbasses would know of. Remember, these guys think Al Davis can still run a football team. They’re not braniacs.
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Gee…what don’t you explain how YOU KNEW THIS, MR?
What? JUST GUESSED? I notice the person who posted as me, pointed out someone else was doing something similar, while adding what they should do…except you COMPLETED THE INFO..apparently.
So yeah, why don’t you regale all as to how you just “happened” to know this…I mean, besides the fact IT WAS YOU??
Hell dude, I accused you..and you didn’t HAVE WORD ONE TO SAY ABOUT IT..others tossed out that it was YOU, including Florida, and again, you posted as if you didn’t even notice the accusations…BUT NOW?
Now??? NOW you point out that I accused you?
Nothing then?
And how odd that in BETWEEN you posting as MR was the other postings…I mean…coincidence, right?
March 20th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
This was in NINETEEN-NINETY-SEVEN! I could play the generic windows 3.11 game called “ski” and the original “Lemmings” on all those damned floppy disks. At the time that the Playstation, Nintendo 64, and Genesis were out… I had a 386. Being a poor kid that grew up on a tobacco farm was not conducive to technological funtimes.
March 20th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
# PassTheCheetos Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
is richochet a troll because i thought it was spelled ricochet. makes me wonder because the few posts of his ive read he seems like he knows how to spell.
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What the hell?
You wonder if someone’s a troll because of the way their handle is spelled?
And that makes sense…because???
Not sure what you mean.
March 20th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Most websites don’t ban by IP address, Richochet. This isn’t 2003. Most websites ban the actual computer, and then ban whatever other computers they suspect the banned person is using. They have software now that knows what computer you’re using, and that will keep banning you even if you know how to change your computer’s web identity.
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Well…again…how coincidental that you just happen to know all this, MR?
Again…gosh…I wonder why you would even know that?
March 20th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
RE: The discussion of banning between RMR and Mr. O’Shea…
I believe that RMR is referring to blocking by MAC address. This does NOT block your computer, rather it blocks the address of the NIC on that computer. However, you can always get a new networking card if you get banned… or you can do something of which even the most incompetent person is capable: spoof your MAC address. The worst-case scenario of the person who gets banned is that they have to buy a new NIC… or a cheap usb Wi-Fi adapter.
March 20th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
# Raiders4eve Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
I believe you RMR, whoever that guy was, he said he was 17 yr old, I believe you in your mid 30s
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He knows that.
He also knows others know that.
Called throwing one off the scent…the ‘well, obviously it’s not me if that person posted the wrong age’.
He knows exactly what to do to cross post…as he posted above.
He knows all about getting banned, and what to do in order to POST AGAIN..
It’s not like he hasn’t done this before…oh..my bad…HE HAS.
March 20th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
richochet i was only wondering that because it seemed that someone was trolling as you earlier. i did not realize that richochet was just a pun being that your name is probably rich. i simply thought that someone took the name ricochet and added an h making the name richochet. typically people do stuff like that on blogs. i wasnt trying to make an assumption just simply wondering.
March 20th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Its hard to be a raider fan rite now with all the loosing. Despite that I would a raider fan the rest of my life even if we never won a game again!!
March 20th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
ANy of you notice 99.9% of Bishochets posts have NOTHING to do with the Raiders or football?
Its all just so he can rail against those stupid enough to engage him.
Iggy fo’ the Bishochet.
March 20th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Is Russell going to have a receiver camp again this year Jerry?
March 20th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
al davis better draft one of the top tackles or dts. i dont really care which one as long as he doesnt do something stupid like drafting taylor mays.
March 20th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
3GENFAN,
Please do not tell people that you are a Raiders fan and please don’t wear Raiders gear. It’s illiterate retards like you that give us all a bad name.
Thank you,
Raider Nation
March 20th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Really steve would you like to back that up
March 20th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
Have you ever seen that guy skating around the hockey ring without a stick just looking to kick ass that’s me don’t mess with me I have your email address remember you gave it to me the other night not the one you posted on the blog and I will meet you any where you want names david martinez blackberry
March 20th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
Back it up? Okay, let’s analyze the only post of yours that I had seen before I made the comment:
“Its hard to be a raider fan rite now with all the loosing. Despite that I would a raider fan the rest of my life even if we never won a game again!!”
Now I’ll post it again and put in the necessary corrections:
Its [should have been "It's." The word you used denotes possession. You wanted to use the contraction for "it is"] hard to be a raider [should be pluralized AND have an apostrophe after the "s"] fan rite [the word is spelled "right"] now with all the loosing [the word is spelled "losing"]. Despite that[a comma is needed here] I would [you should probably have a verb in here somewhere... I'm guessing "be" is what you intended to have here] a raider fan [a preposition is needed here. I assume that you would want it to be "for"] the rest of my life even if we never won [should be "win" since you're referring to a progressive action that goes into the future, not a past action] a game again!! [We'll ignore the fact that "Raider" should be capitalized each time because it's a proper noun]
March 20th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
And yea I’m a raider fan have been all my life again don’t talk smack unless your willing to back it up
March 20th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
David, you have my email address… big deal. I live in the city of Pennington Gap, Virginia and my name really IS
Steve Alford. If you really get worked up enough by me pointing out that your spelling and grammar are worse than a mentally-challenged three-year-old’s, well then come on over.
BTW, hockey is played on a “rink.” I won’t point out the rest of the errors in 186.
Have a good night, bro.
March 20th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
ANy of you notice 99.9% of Bishochets posts have NOTHING to do with the Raiders or football?
Its all just so he can rail against those stupid enough to engage him.
Iggy fo’ the Bishochet.
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awwww…widdle NamNam is still all upset.
I torched your sorry take regarding that sorry joke of a qb Russell…
I’VE CHALLENGED YOU NUMEROUS TIMES to bring it..any time…regarding Russell, Davis..whatever…all your sorryass can conjure is silly repetitive say nothing draft hopes…over and over and over..it’s like you’re brain dead.
Saying “I want so and so…now…today I want someone else. oh..let’s draft this guy, move him over here..no…move him back..oh..wait..”
That’s not football…fool..that’s you just posting to see yourself post..almost as sad as Madden’s attention whorefest.
Again…get over it…you cried about JR…I laughed. I challenged..you retreated.
Oh well
March 20th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
Steve what I’m saying keep my name out of your mouth
March 20th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
lol…internet tough guys are rather humorous..
let me see if I have this straight..3Gen..you just signed on TONIGHT? First time?
And you said…took you THREE YEARS TO BE ABLE TO POST ON YOUR BLACKBERRY?
That about right?
March 20th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
During the Gruden years:
Damon “Mo” Collins was drafted 23rd overall in 98.
Collins, a LT was eventually dumped down to guard.
2nd rnd pick that year DT Leon Bender unfortunately, dropped dead.
In 99: Oakland took OT Matt Stinchcomb 18th overall. Stinky as he was known by some Raider fans, was versatile and adequate, but never lived up to his draft status in Oakland.
Ended his 7 yr career with Tampa as a guard with a bad back.
2nd round pick? DE Tony Bryant
In 2000? 17th overall went for Janikowski.
2nd rnd? Jerry Porter *Shane Lechler went 5th rnd*
2001? 28th overall? Derrick Gibson. A bust at safety.
2nd rnd? Tuiasosopo.
2002 Oakland took Phillip Buchanon with the 17th overall and Napoleon Harris with the 23rd, Langston walker and TE Doug Jolley in the 2nd.
THATS what happened to Oakland.
Gruden’s drafts sucked.
March 20th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
Still got Russell’s back.
March 20th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
It’s all fun and games until someone goes and corrects grammar.
March 20th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
Please Mr. Davis…Hire a GM!
March 20th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
Russell rides the pine but has the bling to back it up
March 20th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
3gen how do you keep someones name out of their mouth when its written on a blog. Oh i get it, it’s a joke; your implying mr. alford is so stupid he has to read everything out loud. Your a funny one. Pretty inteligent joke for a guy that took him three years to figure out how to use his cell phone. Let me guess the first six months were spent figuring out how to place a phone call.
March 20th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
Sorry for long time between posts, had to make a late-night errand run.
3GEN, I stand by what I said: If you’re going to show such blatant ignorance and/or disregard for the most basic and elementary principles of usage of the English language, then I’m sure that I’m not the only person who would prefer that you not make it publicly known that you’re a fan of the Raiders. You really DO give us all a bad name just by spouting off with something like “I am having ben fans of them raider since I be littul and I lyk was gon stay fans til ded is wut I am.” It’s just sad.
March 20th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
3GEN, as a further note on that subject:
I don’t care what your nationality or heritage is. I know that you’re hispanic and that doesn’t matter. Hell, English might not even be your FIRST language. However, you’re in America NOW. You’re on a website whose utilized language is ENGLISH. Learn to speak it and use it properly, or at least adequately enough to pass for a graduate of the fourth grade. Speak what you want at home or in emails to your friends, but when you deal with the English-speaking public, you might want to come off as semi-literate. This doesn’t apply only to hispanics, but to ANYONE operating in the country and on an English-speaking website.
I’ve been to Mexico many times. I speak more than a little bit of Spanish. You know as well as I do how badly people who don’t speak Spanish are treated and discussed. This isn’t a “white people picking on minorities” thing; it’s a “Speak the language of the place in which you find yourself or else be called an idiot” thing.
March 21st, 2010 at 12:26 am
Cam Thomas and Lamarr Houston are probably going to be available in round 2. Who is the better fit for Oakland? I don’t watch college football.
Also, how big is the dump off from Dan Williams to Thomas or Houston? I don’t think there will be any of the good Offensive linemen left. I almost only hear about A. Davis, Campbell, Williams, Okung, C. Brown, and the guy that did his sister.
From what I hear, Houston and Thomas are good.
March 21st, 2010 at 2:36 am
I hereby take back my complaints about the person posting under my name earlier. Go right ahead. People who know me know if it’s really me or not. The reason I’m doing this is because after all of Richochet’s over dramatizing and emotional fits over his name being cloned, I don’t want to sound like him.
March 21st, 2010 at 2:36 am
I hereby take back my complaints about the person posting under my name earlier. Go right ahead. People who know me know if it’s really me or not. The reason I’m doing this is because after all of Richochet’s over dramatizing and emotional fits over his name being cloned, I don’t want to sound like him.
March 21st, 2010 at 6:03 am
i wanna be me!!!
March 21st, 2010 at 6:43 am
Tim Tebow with 2 National Titles, a Heisman, and more character, toughness, and most important leadership qualities that have been lacking on the Raiders should be drafted by AD even in the second round before someone else grabs arguably one of the greatest college football players to ever strap on a helmet. The throwing motion is on the fix and he has all of the other intangibles to be a great Raider. Unlike our current roster of QBs this guy is a winner
March 21st, 2010 at 6:48 am
My momma always said, “Life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you’re gonna get.”
March 21st, 2010 at 7:54 am
What are McCloughan`s family issues?
March 21st, 2010 at 8:08 am
Speak English or Die MFer!! lol
March 21st, 2010 at 8:09 am
Guy… I’ve read a few people in here that are high on Lamaar Houston, and one poster said he wants either Houston or Cam Thomas in the 2nd. Not sure why the either/or, because Houston is a three technique and Cam Thomas is a NT. Thomas is ranked WAY higher as a player, and in my opinion fills a need better than Houston, who is ranked awfully low as a DT to even be considered in the 2nd round.
I’d be ok with Dan Williams at 8 (it’s probably safe to say that Al will consider him, now that Kiffin’s no longer at UT), but I think the better value is Thomas in the 2nd round.
I think if Al takes a tackle in the first (which I don’t believe he will; I think he waits and takes a RT prospect later.), it will be Charles Brown from USC. He’s actually rated higher than anybody at the position except Okung, and is considered the best ZBS tackle in the draft. This, of course, is based on the Raiders staying with the ZBS. Mike Johnson from Alabama is the highest rated ZBS guard in the draft and will probably be there in the third.
I know it sounds a little nuts, but I would take Maurkice Pouncey at 8. According to those that study these things, he’s the best center prospect since Mangold, and can play guard as well. The Raiders haven’t had a dominant center since Barrett Robbins, and with the entire AFC West running a 3-4 defense, we need one desperately. Locking down that very important position for the next ten years doesn’t seem like a reach if looked at in that context. I know “they” say you don’t take a center that high or pay them that much, but people forget that all the great teams had dominators at that position, and we certainly don’t at the moment. You could build a pretty good line around a guy like Pouncey, and not have to address the position again for ten years. You know, like the old days. When we were good.
March 21st, 2010 at 8:11 am
LMFAO @ 200!!
WOW
March 21st, 2010 at 8:17 am
# Raider O Says:
March 21st, 2010 at 8:08 am
Speak English or Die MFer!! lol
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Hva snakker du om? =)
March 21st, 2010 at 8:26 am
What language is that?
March 21st, 2010 at 8:32 am
LMN
SOD. Look up the lyrics. Crazy!
Also System Of A Down has one.
March 21st, 2010 at 8:35 am
BTW LMN,
LMAO @ HVA Snakker Du Om. (I’m
Watching a few videos now)
I never heard of them before. Thx bro.
March 21st, 2010 at 8:37 am
hva er McCloughans familie spørsmål?
March 21st, 2010 at 8:45 am
LMN,
Is it a band or a comedy show?
March 21st, 2010 at 8:54 am
Rhino,
This is an American Blog. Speak English! lol
March 21st, 2010 at 8:54 am
I would only take Tebow if you get all those great players around him, come on those Florida teams were amazing don’t act like he carried them. He won 1 NC as starter and another as a backup.
March 21st, 2010 at 9:07 am
raider o…
its one of our best stand up comedians, his shows and tv-shows was hilarious..
March 21st, 2010 at 9:07 am
Vegas, What happened yesterday!! Damn them, Lobos!!
Hey at least UNLV didn’t lose to a chump team, they beat Kansas yesterday!
March 21st, 2010 at 9:08 am
# Rhino Says:
March 21st, 2010 at 8:37 am
hva er McCloughans familie spørsmål?
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LOL, more like, hva er McCloughans familie problem…
March 21st, 2010 at 9:09 am
spørgsmål means question…
March 21st, 2010 at 9:20 am
LMN,
I see..
March 21st, 2010 at 9:30 am
Chas Malloy Says:
March 21st, 2010 at 6:43 am
Tim Tebow with 2 National Titles, a Heisman, and more character, toughness, and most important leadership qualities that have been lacking on the Raiders should be drafted by AD even in the second round before someone else grabs arguably one of the greatest college football players to ever strap on a helmet. The throwing motion is on the fix and he has all of the other intangibles to be a great Raider. Unlike our current roster of QBs this guy is a winner
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Pffffft! (fart noise)
If we’d wanted Tim Tebow we’d have kept McClown.
March 21st, 2010 at 9:34 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
March 21st, 2010 at 9:08 am
# Rhino Says:
March 21st, 2010 at 8:37 am
hva er McCloughans familie spørsmål?
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LOL, more like, hva er McCloughans familie problem…
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Forgive me if I’m wrong, but didn’t you serve in our military?
If so, speak what ever language you please and thanks for doing your part to provide the freedoms some of us obviously have conveniently forgotten.
March 21st, 2010 at 9:42 am
Cam Thomas and Lamarr Houston are probably going to be available in round 2. Who is the better fit for Oakland? I don’t watch college football.
Also, how big is the dump off from Dan Williams to Thomas or Houston? I don’t think there will be any of the good Offensive linemen left. I almost only hear about A. Davis, Campbell, Williams, Okung, C. Brown, and the guy that did his sister.
From what I hear, Houston and Thomas are good.
Of course if Cody is there… Btw, I heard Houston was good against the run, thats why I put him there with Thomas, didn’t know he was a 3 technique.
March 21st, 2010 at 9:49 am
209. I have no idea if Al thought Pouncy was the guy he’d do it.
I like him too, but just can’t see that happening. Maybe to Pittsburgh in the 1st, but not top 10.
Completely agree we need a dominant center and if we stay with Satele he better have worked his azz off studying cuz he has alot of work to do if he’s going to make the calls in the ZBS.
Noticed he tends to lose site of blitzers on stunts. Needs to keep his head on a swivel and look up other numbers after the primary.
Work to be done and the run will suffer if not.
March 21st, 2010 at 9:59 am
Nnamdi,
What if he didn’t serve? Can he still speak another language, or should we force hm to speak English? lol
March 21st, 2010 at 10:00 am
Him*
March 21st, 2010 at 10:02 am
I wish the Raiders would trade Howard for a 3rd and keep morrison. Then trade down in the 1rst to get a 3rd rounder. Take 2 3rds and trade back into the 2nd
1st 2nd 2nd 3rd 4th, that 5 picks in the top 100.
1rst Dan Williams DT
2nd Charles Brown OT
2nd Daryl Washington MLB
3rd Mike Johnson OG
4th Ciron Black OT
“give me some linemen or give me death!”
March 21st, 2010 at 10:07 am
Our D Seymour, Williams, Kelly, Shaunnasy
Morrison, Washington, Wimbley
Aso, Branch, Huff, Johnson
Our O Henderson, Gallery, Satele, Johnson, Brown
Chaz, Murphy, DHB, Bush, D-Mac
and our QB…….who gives a Funk
March 21st, 2010 at 10:08 am
Use the later rounds to get a QB and a FB
March 21st, 2010 at 10:12 am
No thoughs Nation? No debate? WTF?
March 21st, 2010 at 10:13 am
This is why Davis says no to Cam.
Pass rush: Doesn’t offer much in this area. Relies almost exclusively on his bull rush to push the pocket. Doesn’t show much in terms of pass-rush technique to disengage from the pass blocker and has only marginal lateral agility to elude. Needs an open lane to close and doesn’t have the burst to consistently make the play when he gains it.
This why we should say no to Lamar
Pass rush: Extremely agile for a 300-pounder and works relentlessly to reach the quarterback. Gets under the shoulder of his man if lined up in the gap or slanting. Beats most cut blocks with quickness and strong hands and is able to recover from initial stalemate to get after the passer. Good backfield awareness. Gets his hands up to deflect passes, though his height and length leave something to be desired. Dangerous on twists inside. Short arms cause him to work harder to get off blocks against top-level guards. Must improve pass-rush moves.
Run defense: Excellent pursuit down the line. Upper body and hands are strong enough for him to pull down ballcarriers while engaged with blockers. Regularly lines up at the five-technique, standing his ground against larger linemen using a strong punch and leverage. Stays square to the line, able to move laterally while engaged. Lacks the bulk play inside on run downs at the next level.
Note the last line, “LACKS THE BULK TO PLAY INSIDE ON RUN DOWNS…”
Cam’s got question marks about weight and effort and may be spoiling simply for a pay day.
Houston’s not a run stuffer and more of a 5 tech 3-4 end type of guy maybe, so some one Al may actually look at.
At least he can tackle.
March 21st, 2010 at 10:15 am
Raider O Says:
March 21st, 2010 at 9:59 am
Nnamdi,
What if he didn’t serve? Can he still speak another language, or should we force hm to speak English? lol
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Water board.
March 21st, 2010 at 10:17 am
RNOraiderFan Says:
March 21st, 2010 at 10:02 am
I wish the Raiders would trade Howard for a 3rd and keep morrison. Then trade down in the 1rst to get a 3rd rounder. Take 2 3rds and trade back into the 2nd
1st 2nd 2nd 3rd 4th, that 5 picks in the top 100.
1rst Dan Williams DT
2nd Charles Brown OT
2nd Daryl Washington MLB
3rd Mike Johnson OG
4th Ciron Black OT
“give me some linemen or give me death!”
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No point in debating who logically should be taken to shore the Raiders cuz Davis is playing the anti logic.
Drafts for Raider fans usually wait and see rather instant upgrade even if we recognize a name or two.
March 21st, 2010 at 10:17 am
1- trade up for Suh
2- HB J Best
3- ILB Spikes
4- DE Austen Lane if Available or RT Sam Young
5- CB Walter Thurmond or Stoudamire
5- OL Ciron Black
7- FB
March 21st, 2010 at 10:18 am
Then what DT could we take in round 2? There doesn’t see to many OT’s outside of the those top 5 guys.How about Cody vs Thomas if they are available.
March 21st, 2010 at 10:19 am
I’m not sayin this is what Al will do I’m sayin this is what he should do. This is how you run a draft. Al likes above all else to make a splash and that means trading up or reaching.
March 21st, 2010 at 10:21 am
Raider O how do we trade up to get Suh? in your draft we still have all our picks, what are we useing to trade up?
March 21st, 2010 at 10:26 am
DT in the first and OT in the second.
March 21st, 2010 at 10:26 am
What OT in round 2?
March 21st, 2010 at 10:27 am
Look at my previous post Charles Brown.
March 21st, 2010 at 10:27 am
I heard charles Brown could be gone in round 2 along with all of the other top prospects including Okung,Williams,Davis, and Campbell. (my order from favorite to least)
March 21st, 2010 at 10:28 am
This needs an edit button, also put Bulaga with his short arms (Gallery again) up there.
March 21st, 2010 at 10:29 am
Or Vlad Ducasse
March 21st, 2010 at 10:30 am
# RNOraiderFan Says:
March 21st, 2010 at 10:08 am
Use the later rounds to get a QB and a FB
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absolutely, we need to go after QB Mike Kafka in the 3rd or 4th round and then a FB in the 6th..
March 21st, 2010 at 10:31 am
OH I forgot about him, do you think he would play Tackle or Guard for us? If he plays guard, who do we put at tackle?
March 21st, 2010 at 10:33 am
Look at Raider O’s and my mocks, we both have OT Ciron Black on our list. Last year Black was thought of as a top ten talent, now he is a fourth rounder at best because of attitude and ??. This was the same reason Mario fell to us in the fourth. Lets not forget we need a OG too, Mike Johnson OG Alabama.
“give me linemen or give me death!”
March 21st, 2010 at 10:38 am
RNO,
Options: TH, Kirk, TK, Routt, Huff, or DMC.
Make it happen Al!
March 21st, 2010 at 10:38 am
Got to run and get busy doing yard work. C ya Nation!
Hate spring!
March 21st, 2010 at 10:43 am
I saw a mock with us taking an OG from Texas Tech in like the 5th. It seemed like he was really good, also heard good things about the guard that blocked for DMC and Jones.
March 21st, 2010 at 10:45 am
Guy,
Part of the reason the run defense has been absolutely putrid…one of the worst in NFL history even…is because the Raiders always look to just get by on run defense…..can we get away with this Undrafted Free Agent….or how about this former 1st round pick…never try to get truly elite talent. We’ve got people here who swear Gerard Warren is a stud of a player when in reality he’s a fringe NFL player.
March 21st, 2010 at 10:47 am
His name is Brandon Carter
March 21st, 2010 at 10:49 am
SnB what do you think of Thomas or Houston in round 2, or Cody if he’s still available? I dont wont college football so I don’t know much. I do know Cody is down to around 350 now though from like 370.
March 21st, 2010 at 10:51 am
Raider O,
None of those players have trade up value. Suh is not coming to Oakland. Impossible
March 21st, 2010 at 10:54 am
Guy,
The scouting write-ups on Thomas and Houston suggest we can’t use them. We need a big man that can take on the O-Line.
As for Cody….this team/organization just doesn’t do well with players with weight and conditioning issues.
March 21st, 2010 at 10:56 am
What is wrong with Thomas? If Al gets some sense and trades down some spots and takes Williams, what tackle would you suggest from the 2nd round? MLB will still be a hole too.
Do you think Ciron Black will be a good RT in like round 3 or 4?
March 21st, 2010 at 10:59 am
SnB,
DMC & Huff have value. Huff is playing well, and DMC still has trade Value IMO. Also Maybe TH, Kirk, and our 1st can get it done with TB.
March 21st, 2010 at 11:00 am
Raider O,
Huff and DMC have no trade value at their current contract value. No one is going to pay the ridiculous contracts for those guys. $5 million for Huff?
March 21st, 2010 at 11:08 am
Guy,
I didn’t watch Thomas or Houston play. I just know they are rated lower than Williams. Also, Nnamdi’s scouting report raises red flags for both.
I want the highest rated DT available that is stout against the run. I am not interested in trying to find a bandaid for this thing.
As for RT. RTs are usually not drafted in the 1st round. I think they can find a guy in the 2nd round easily. I also think Mario Henderson will develop into a good LT. He played well last year, but struggled towards the end. He played just as well as the 1st round LTs played last year.
March 21st, 2010 at 11:11 am
Yeah I know about RT’s in round 1, but how about a RT in round 2 or 3? I think in round 2 we can get try getting Cody if hes available or dunlap and moving Seymour next to the new DT.
What do you think of the Guard they said before from Alabama in round 3 and ciron black with our second 3rd. I think spikes may be avaialable in round 4, what is your evaluation of him?
March 21st, 2010 at 11:14 am
Cam Thomas
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/front-office-total-access-stats.html&position=dt
Cody is also on this page, as is Dan Williams. Doesn’t appear (at least in this scouting report) to be a lot of difference between Williams and Thomas, which is why I consider Thomas the better value in the 2nd round than Williams would be in the 1st. Lamaar Houston is rated, I believe, 26th overall at the DT spot.
The offensive tackle ratings are interesting as well.
March 21st, 2010 at 11:19 am
Well that has Dan williams below some people most say he is ahead of.
“He looks like a potential nose tackle or three technique in a 4-3 scheme at the next level and will give whatever team he’s on a lot of options inside.”
says houston can play NT, but will not be too affective vs the double so I guess he is out of the picture.
Heard someone wanted Jay Ross in like round 4 before, does anyone know anything about him?
March 21st, 2010 at 11:21 am
Its hard to project O-Lineman for Oakland because of the ZBS scheme. It appears that Cable likes athletic lineman, so that probably strkes out any roadgraders….unless of course Al Davis is mandating more size.
I am staying away from Carlos Dunlap. Again, the Raiders are not like they used to be….they don’t do well with players with work ethic, weight or maturity issues.
March 21st, 2010 at 11:24 am
Does Baltimore run the ZBS? If not, maybe Jackson can convince Al to ditch it, the ZBS scares me because of Campbell, but I think Trent Williams is a player.
March 21st, 2010 at 11:31 am
I don’t know if Baltimore runs the ZBS. But they’ve sure invested in their line with Grubbs, Oher Gaither and Birk.
Hopefully Jackson can get some change because the O-Line looked overwhelmed last year….especially on the right side
March 21st, 2010 at 11:38 am
Let me say it here, there are few DTs with high ceiling and potential, those are Dan Williams, the kid from UCLA Price and MT Cody, yes I said MT Cody. Cody was responsible for Alabama becoming national champions, he made offenses one dimensional. I bet you either Denver or Chargers will jump on the chance of having him.
Brandan Spikes is a very similar to a younger Takeo Spikes. He might run slow in the 40s but he has the game speed. I think he will become a great player.
March 21st, 2010 at 11:40 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/21/cody-making-the-rounds-with-3-4-teams/
Cody already making rounds….may sneak into the 1st round….DTs are at a premium…don’t assume a good one will just fall to the Raiders in the 2nd round
March 21st, 2010 at 11:44 am
I’ll tell you what….that DHB pick last year set the franchise back. Here we are having to fill several critical positions and will be forced to compromise.
Al could have addressed several positions, including WR, but instead wasted the pick on the worst rated receiver in 2009.
Could have grabbed one of the OTs, or Raji, or Crabtree/Maclin or Harvin…Alex Mack etc……..instead, we got a kid that can’t even do the basics of his position.
Really terrible draft last year…
March 21st, 2010 at 12:26 pm
4eve,
What about Suh, McCoy, Houston, G Atkins & Owens, Odrick, and Linval Joseph?
March 21st, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Raider O
be reasonable Mccoy n Suh are out of reach unless you willing to give up most of your draft picks for the first three days. Odrick is average at best, Linval is NT best fit for 3-4, Atkins is a high risk/high bust kind of player, he is fast but check his college stats that would give u a better idea.
March 21st, 2010 at 12:35 pm
1- SUH make it happen Al (it’s possible)lol
2- J Best
3- Spikes
4- DE Austen Lane or RT Sam Young
5- Ciron Black
5- CB Walter Thurmond or Stoudamire
7- FB
March 21st, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Give up on trading up for Suh, like everyone else said, we have too many holes. TH and Huff will not get us the 2nd 1st. We will need to give up more picks.
March 21st, 2010 at 12:40 pm
4eve,
Cody is also a NT like Linval. I like Owens and Atkins a lot, but I would rather have Suh, Houston, or Linval.
March 21st, 2010 at 12:42 pm
“Give up”?!
NEVER!!!!!!
March 21st, 2010 at 12:44 pm
I forgot to add Dan Williams.
March 21st, 2010 at 12:45 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
The Raiders are in a fantastic position this year to TRADE DOWN to the mid-1st-round, and use this deep Draft to fill more holes.
If Jimmy Clausen is still available @ #8, there are a number of teams that might be in play for a trade. Just trading one or two spots back (Buffalo and Jax both need QB’s) is a possibility. Seattle might want to move up and plug their holes at OT and RB in just a few picks, and be happy with their Draft even before leaving the 1st round.
There are plenty of draft-then-trade scenarios also, with the Raiders taking somebody especially coveted by certain teams and then dealing him for a package price.
Because so many teams are drooling for players that will still be there after the first 7 picks…the Raiders have more trade leverage this Draft than they have had in the past decade.
TRADE DOWN, load-up and move ahead, Al!
March 21st, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Hayes
unfortunately, the only teams that need a QB are one or two spots under us, after the top 10 most teams don’t need QBs. I think we need to take Dan or Trent then get Cody or a DE that will allow Seymour to play fulltime DT.
March 21st, 2010 at 1:00 pm
After talking to you guys, I would like Trent Wiliams or A. Davis in round 1. In 2, I would take cody if hes available, or Cam Thomas.
Round 3 would probably be Spikes and the 2nd 3rd the Bama guard.
4th Jacoby Ford or Ciron Black and let Davis do what he does best, late round picks.
March 21st, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Hayes
please explain if we trade down with jaqs or bills what do we get? Max an extra fourth rounder, Seattle don’t need a QB they gave up alot to get the kid from Chargers n paid him top money. We had better chance trading down last year then this year when Crabtree was available.
March 21st, 2010 at 1:02 pm
BTW,
For all of you who say trade down. When did Al ever trade down in the 1st?! He will reach or Trade up, but He Will Not Trade Down.
I have a dream… Suh!
March 21st, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Hayes,
We aren’t trading down from the 1st round. So let’s get the best player available at #8 that can help improve one of the worst run defenses in NFL history.
March 21st, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Trading up is not an option either. We have no chips to pitch in. Our players are overpaid and overrated, and we have so many holes to fill that giving away any more picks would be counterproductive.
March 21st, 2010 at 1:09 pm
-Jacoby Ford will not fall to the 4th. IMHO he ran a 4.28 and he had 50+ catches in the last 2 seasons.
-Cam Thomas over Lamarr Houston?!
March 21st, 2010 at 1:09 pm
# Raiders4eve Says:
March 21st, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Hayes
please explain if we trade down with jaqs or bills what do we get? Max an extra fourth rounder, Seattle don’t need a QB they gave up alot to get the kid from Chargers n paid him top money. We had better chance trading down last year then this year when Crabtree was available.
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This draft is really a crap shoot at the top which is interesting. The entire draft hinges on who grabs what Q early. Does St. Louis (wisely) grab Bradford? That would mean if Claussen is sitting there at eight, with Buffalo picking right behind us, and it is no sure thing WE wouldn’t take Claussen, that pick may have some real value.
March 21st, 2010 at 1:09 pm
The Raiders can get OL, DL, LB…AND a RB in the first 3 rounds if they trade down.
With the value put on Clausen’s “pro-style” offensive knowledge, he will be more in demand than just by Buffalo and Jax. Knowing both those teams would have to seriously consider taking Clausen…it makes sense to find out how much he would be worth to both teams.
Of course, it’s all moot if Washington takes Clausen first. If they don’t, the phones will be ringing. But, he’s not the only guy really sought-after, so those phones are probably already warmed up.
March 21st, 2010 at 1:09 pm
-Cam Thomas over Lamarr Houston?!
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No.
March 21st, 2010 at 1:11 pm
No it is not a great day to be a Raider fan. That day will come when I wake up to Al Davis’s obituary in the morning news.
Fact is the Raiders will NOT trade up or down.
Clausen’s going to the Skins.
Al Davis will not take a guy mentioned in this or any other blog. OL? Right. DT? Dream on. Itll more than likely be some fast DE, Taylor Mays or a speedy corner. My guess is the talking corpse will take Mays.
March 21st, 2010 at 1:16 pm
It’s not an option?!
For you it’s not, but it’s for me. lol
Let us see if It is an option for Al. I’m not a GM, and I don’t know what other teams want. They may like a guy like Kirk who has 100+ TKls ever season. They may like Huff, a former 1st RD pick, and he played well last year. They may like TH, a LB that can cover, and he was drafted in the 2nd. I’m sure there are a few teams that think they can do better than us with DMC.
March 21st, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Buffalo is switching to a 3-4. They need a nose tackle. They might just wait for Dan Williams to fall to them.
Jacksonville and Clausen. Doubtful that Del Rio is looking at trying to develop a QB in a must win year. Look for them to strengthen their team to win now.
March 21st, 2010 at 1:20 pm
The Raiders could threaten to pick Clausen, or actually pick him. More likely, just have the option of trading the pick to a number of teams.
Like I said…Clausen’s not the only coveted player, though…and that #8 pick could be used to fulfill a lot of different teams’ wish-lists.
As I mentioned earlier…Seattle might just want to move up and have two top-10 picks in the first round…they could take care of OT and RB (Spiller), and declare their Draft an early success.
The Raiders could actually do a “crazy” thing, and target a RB in their first two picks…and they could do that rather easily by trading out of the top-10.
I like the 4-picks-in-3-rounds idea, and it can be done cheaper than 3 picks will cost now.
RB and WR are definite NEEDS on this team.
March 21st, 2010 at 1:23 pm
I think the Jags will draft Tebow, but I’m not sure if they do it with their 1st, or trade down for him.
March 21st, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Raider O,
For the reasons the Raider fan base wants to get rid of guys like Morrison, Howard or let Huff walk are the same reasons other teams will not want to get these guys.
The Raiders have so many busts on its roster that when they flash its easy to subscribe a lot of value to them. In reality most of the players on the roster have limited to no value.
Case in point…Fargas and Warren were lauded by people on this blog. Both players find themselves out of the league with no takers….not even for a backup role…yet here in Oakland, people were counting on them to be significant contributors.
Here’s another guess..if Huff does not restructure that contract….say hello to Taylor Mays
March 21st, 2010 at 1:25 pm
I like J Best in the 2nd. He wants to be a Raider, he Has Raiders’ speed, and DMC didn’t do much the last 2 years.
March 21st, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Hayes,
I have to disagree with your assessment of our needs. Wide Receiver and Running Back both have significant investments that have been made from previous drafts. The players in those positions simply have to play better and play up their potential and contracts. In fact, that’s the case for entire offense with the exception of RT and RG.
Plenty of undeveloped talent on offense.
Defense…a serious lack of talent at DT and linebacker….SERIOUS LACK OF TALENT…for them replacement of high caliber players is the only remedy
March 21st, 2010 at 1:30 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 21st, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Buffalo is switching to a 3-4. They need a nose tackle. They might just wait for Dan Williams to fall to them.
Jacksonville and Clausen. Doubtful that Del Rio is looking at trying to develop a QB in a must win year. Look for them to strengthen their team to win now.
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They don’t have to develop Claussen this year. They could still go with Gerrard with Claussen in the wings which is what most smart teams do. That way either Gerrard plays much better helping the team, or they have their guy sitting and learning. Hence why I said it may not be out of the realm of possibility the Raiders could take either Bradfor or Claussen if by some chance one of them was sitting there.
March 21st, 2010 at 1:30 pm
This is what’s so damning about these drafts. We keep having to draft for the same postions year after year after year. We don’t fill the needs we have and continue neglecting other needs.
March 21st, 2010 at 1:31 pm
The Raiders could take a RB that another, later, team wants and then dangle the trade bait. If we can’t trade the RB, guess what? We need a RB.
This year, the Raiders have plenty of leverage…and plenty of holes to fill.
If we don’t trade down, I’d like to go ILB or OT…but again, we can get a player at one of those positions a few spots later, while adding another pick (or two).
March 21st, 2010 at 1:31 pm
SnB,
Don’t forget about Dunlap & Campbell. They are both great players! They ran great 40s. lol
Like I Said my brother, it’s a dream, so STOP pissing in my RaiderAide. Let me have some fun. It’s not going to a player I like, you like, and it will not make sense, so let me dream.
March 21st, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Seymour B,
Jack Del Rio is in a must win year. The franchise is trying to get back now.
Why would Del Rio pick a player that can’t help him today?
They are going to get a player that can come on the field week 1 and contribute.
Gerrard is their guy and they have to win this year. Otherwise Del Rio is fired and the big investment already made in Gerrard goes becomes a waste.
Claussen could go to Washington. After that, he will see a Brady Quinnesque type of draft fall
March 21st, 2010 at 1:33 pm
It not going to be a player…..*
March 21st, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Jags need more fans to attend games, and Tebow alone can do that. Florida loves Tebow.
March 21st, 2010 at 1:37 pm
The Jags will draft Tebow.IMHO
March 21st, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Raider O,
I know. Al Davis will always take the most athletically gifted player regardless of on field acumen and the team will probably be the worst off for it.
The Raiders are such a finesse soft touch team…is it any wonder why they get demolished each week…especially against physical teams.
Go ahead and draft Mays, Campbell or DHB (oops we took him already) and continue to be frustrated and continue to hope for a better day.
Way too many busts on the current roster. Way too many!
March 21st, 2010 at 1:44 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 21st, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Seymour B,
Jack Del Rio is in a must win year. The franchise is trying to get back now.
Why would Del Rio pick a player that can’t help him today?
They are going to get a player that can come on the field week 1 and contribute.
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Actually it is McDonough and Vance that run that team and I am sure they don’t care if Del Rio wins or not, they’ll just get someone else. GM’s are funny that way. It’s never THEIR fault if teams don’t win or guys don’t develop. It’s always the fault of the coach. ( See Davis, Al, Oakland Raiders 1960-present)
March 21st, 2010 at 1:46 pm
I have a Dream….
1- Trade up for Suh
2- J Best
3- Spikes
4- Austen Lane or Sam Young
5- Ciron Black
5- Thurmond or stoudamire
7- FB
March 21st, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Raider O,
I am cool with your dream. Trust me, I see DT as the NUMBER 1 need for this Raider team.
Just tell me what trade package you see working to make your mock a reality
March 21st, 2010 at 1:51 pm
I don’t want to defend Clausen…I just point out that some scouts (a majority?) believe Clausen’s training will transfer quicker to the NFL level…and he won’t need as much “development” time.
For this Raiders team, I personally drool for either of those kids from OU — McCLain or T. Williams.
As for needs?
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
Hayes,
I have to disagree with your assessment of our needs. Wide Receiver and Running Back both have significant investments that have been made from previous drafts. The players in those positions simply have to play better and play up their potential and contracts…
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I couldn’t disagree more there, SnB. No matter the investment, the needs have not been fulfilled at those positions. Even if DHB had already worked-out (and I still think he will), our investment in him didn’t take care of other needs there.
JLH cannot be looked upon as a solid starter. Murphy, as undisciplined as he is, is a definite player who looks to have a long career; but he’s young with a lot to learn. Schilens can’t be counted on to be healthy, even a year later. And none of the other guys has shown he’s inclined to be more than an occasional “role player.”
RB? Bush should’ve already claimed that spot, but he hasn’t. DMC isn’t close to showing he can be a 25-carry back. If one of those guys goes down, the team has NO running game, let alone an under-performing one.
Contract size has nothing to do with fulfilling needs. We’ve got multi-needs, at some high-paid positions…and they need addressed.
March 21st, 2010 at 1:52 pm
I don’t know SnB. I don’t think we are that soft. Add a DT and a MLB, and we will have a good defense. I know we can’t stop the run, but that can be fixed by adding a MLB and a DT.
March 21st, 2010 at 1:53 pm
raider o why would a team trade a top five pick for our number 8 and piece of garbage player. dmc might be the only one with value but no way al gives him up. i know brandon spikes is a good player but who here honestly believes davis will draft a linebacker who cant break 5 seconds in the 40.
March 21st, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Seymour,
I guess we will see. But undermining your head coach doesn’t seem like a smart thing to do. But maybe Jax is tired of Del Rio already.
I still don’t think they will trade up to get Claussen. And it won’t be with the Raiders.
Al Davis and the Raiders rarely trade down. They also probably are fixated on Campbell or Mays and are worried that one of them will fall to #8.
Remember last year…Cable actually thought someone was going to take DHB earlier….
March 21st, 2010 at 1:58 pm
SnB,
LMFAO
Reality is Al drafting Mays or Campbell, and the rest is just a dream.
I don’t know SnB. What ever the other team wants other than Seymour, Nnamdi & Z Miller.
March 21st, 2010 at 1:59 pm
We don’t (and won’t) have that many Draft picks…especially if we were to trade up for Suh. That one player’s potential isn’t enough to mortgage anymore of this teams’ future on.
Even Suh is a risk…and the Raiders can pick a player at his position with a later selection. If Suh isn’t there at #8 (hahaha), we won’t go up and get him.
March 21st, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Excellent Draft talk today, boys, girls and ‘tweeners.
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
March 21st, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Players with Trade Value: (IMO)
DMC
Bush
Huff
Branch
T Scott
TH
Kirk
CJ
Maybe TK
March 21st, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Sure its a great day to be a Raider fan. but it would be an even better day if Davis would stop drafting high round busts and 3-5 year development players.
None of the top picks, except Miller, has,or is helping this team win games.
That has to stop.
As for putting guys like DMAC, Bush, Schilens, DHB, Murphy on ice would set the team back…in my opinion.
Let’s give those guys a full year before we try to replace them.
March 21st, 2010 at 2:07 pm
I’m not saying they are great players, buri do think they have trade Value.
The fact that Kirk & TH didn’t get offers doesn’t mean much. Brandon M didn’t get an offer, so he is not worth a 1st RD pick?!
March 21st, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Raider O,
DMC, Huff, TK have exorbitent contracts very expensive
March 21st, 2010 at 2:08 pm
and if we traded huff then you can say hello to Taylor Mays
March 21st, 2010 at 2:10 pm
But I do think…*
March 21st, 2010 at 2:13 pm
SnB
There is no salary cap this year, and Al likes MM. That’s his new pet project.
March 21st, 2010 at 2:16 pm
DMC was rated as the best player in that draft, and teams know we can’t develop talent, so they may trade for him.
March 21st, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Like most players, Dmac plays better when he’s healthy. Unfortunately for the Raiders and their fans, he hasn’t been.
My hunch is that he will be healthier (and used better) this year, and will have a much better season.
Provided the offensive line is addressed, that is.
March 21st, 2010 at 2:27 pm
huff, morrison, howard and even tk have virtually no trade value. huff hardly had what id consider a breakout year notice all three of his picks came as a nickle safety. morrison and howard are both looked at as guys were trying to replace. tk way to big of a contract not enough production. you can easily say that morrison has over 100 tackles every year, however true that is dont forget that even with those stats our run d has never been good with him on the field. as for th hes already been replaced by scott right now hes talented backup and thats it. how can you argue that those guys have any trade value. in fact al davis has tried trading huff in the past and no one was interested.
March 21st, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Teach,
Being healthy is part of the equation. Both DMAC and Schilens are going to be replaced if they can’t play for most of the year this year.
Schilens getting injured really hurt JaDavis Russell’s development. Had Schilens been the #1 like he was supposed too from the start….2009 might have had a different outcome offensively.
Can’t stay healthy…you can’t keep using up roster spots…no offense to Nick Miller.
March 21st, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Passthecheetos,
Yes you are spot on. The Raiders and their fans overrate so much of their talent.
If we wouldn’t want these players…read 5-11 team with terrible player personnel..why on earth would someone else. Especially when you consider how much coin they get paid.
I point to guys like Gerard Warren and Justin Fargas. Nice guys…but no one is knocking down their doors to sign them…THEY WERE KEY STARTERS HERE1!!!!!!!!
Morrison for a 3rd rounder and absolutely no takers….Howard…no takers…and I don’t think you would get a 3rd either….Routt…lol
This is a bad team. With big holes at DT, MLB, NB, RT, RG and C…might as well toss in FB and QB depending on who you talk too.
All the players at those positions are overpaid and overrated.
It also doesn’t help that the Owner keeps drafting similiar type players at the top of the draft.
Think DHB could command a 1st round pick right now?
Give me a break
March 21st, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Tommy Kelly is a backup reserve player being paid like a pro-bowler
March 21st, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Here’s the list of players with real trade value:
Bush
Shillens
Miller
Branch
Scott
Murphy
Shaunessy
Bryant
and that’s about it…
nobody wants the contracts of:
McFadden
T Kelly
or just about any other body on the roster…
March 21st, 2010 at 3:01 pm
i still think my man Bush is going to shine…
that is if Cable let’s him play…
if not… guess it will happen on another team…
March 21st, 2010 at 3:06 pm
asomugha has the most trade value
March 21st, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Claussen won’t make it past Washington, Seattle, and Cleveland.
Shanahan needs a QB, Carroll would like his own, and Holmgren loves to groom QB’s.
March 21st, 2010 at 3:21 pm
IF St. Louis takes Suh, every Mock draft will have to be re-done.
March 21st, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Florida
Asmough, Seymour, Lechler, Jano and Miller have the high trade value.
The remaining you mentioned are pretty much mid rounders.
March 21st, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Random
Seattle got their QB, they gave up the kid from the chokers $5 mill to become the starter and challenge Matt. They won’t draft Clausen.
March 21st, 2010 at 3:29 pm
true…but they didn’t give up much in the way of draft picks, and I don’t know how much money is guaranteed.
But the truth of the matter is that Whitehurst hasn’t played a single NFL down.
March 21st, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Personally, I think it’s more likely that Holmgren takes Claussen.
Delhomme and Wallace aren’t QB’s for the future.
March 21st, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
March 21st, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Florida
Asmough, Seymour, Lechler, Jano and Miller have the high trade value.
The remaining you mentioned are pretty much mid rounders.
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just because the Raiders might give up a 1st rounder for each and every one of them…
for the privelege of allowing them to continue to be the highest paid players at their positions…
does NOT make them good trade bait…
very few teams would want to pay thier kickers like we play ours… no, wait… NO teams pay their kickers like we do ours…
very few teams would want Nnamdi AND his contract…
Seymour, after having a relatively ordinary year is now going to be paid like an elite player… not too sure very many teams would be wanting to do that…
and why you have Miller up there is puzzling… i had Miller on my list as well…
and he is good trade bait… but why would you want to trade a player with a very acceptable salary???
and that is the point i am making…
the players on my trade bait list have reasonable contracts… very good contracts considering the value of the player…
trade value is a quotient of salary/quality…
March 21st, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Florida Pete,
Hopefully Hue Jackson will put an end to the nonsense. Cable isn’t calling plays and lets hope he isn’t the decision maker as far as starters.
I am with you on Michael Bush. If we can guarantee him 15+ per game…he will put up the numbers that we expect of a starting running back.
DMAC hopefully is used correctly for the first time in his NFL career.
Think we will get a real NT this year Pete?
WHo’s your 4th to 5th round gem this year. Last year you had Jasper Brinkley, who’s the guy this year.
March 21st, 2010 at 3:41 pm
I think Claussen goes to Washington. Now a good trade would be this, Redskins 3rd rounder and Haynesworth (who doesn’t wanna play in a 3-4) to the Raiders for Morrison, DMAC and Huff plus our second round pick. If we do that, we can focus on OL in the first round and draft Spikes in the third round. I know I must be dreaming.
March 21st, 2010 at 3:44 pm
I’d love a trade that dumps a lot of our under-achievers, and brings a player like Haynesworth back our way.
We would need to draft a C, RG, RT/LT, MLB with our first 4 picks. Might need a corner/safety too.
March 21st, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Nice Analysis Florida Pete, but I still think Asmough would command a first rounder, he is still considered top 2 Corner in the league. Seymour is aging I agree and your point salary/quality is well taken. Thanks.
Btw, there you have it Holmgren wont draft Claussen.
Holmgren on Clausen: “I wish I liked it more”
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 21, 2010 6:33 PM ET
Mike Holmgren has picked up two quarterbacks this offseason, and says he plans to draft another.
Just don’t expect Holmgren to select one in the first two rounds. Holmgren never has drafted a quarterback that early before, and he doesn’t plan to this year.
“This year it would be pretty hard to use the second [round] pick to get a quarterback. It would be pretty hard for me,” Holmgren said to Tony Grossi of the Cleveland Plain-Dealer. “Next year might be easier. . . . But I’d have to have another second-round pick [to take a quarterback in the second round].”
Holmgren seems likely to have a chance to take Jimmy Clausen with the seventh overall pick. But that’s not going to happen either.
“I wish I liked [Clausen] more,” Holmgren said. “You know how you have a type of player that you like? It’s not scientific. People like him a lot. He’ll go high. But it would be hard for me [to take him].”
Wow. Unless that’s a serious misdirection play, Holmgren’s candor shows why he wanted to invest so much in veteran quarterbacks this offseason.
March 21st, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Morrison, DMAC and Huff have no trade value.
Would you pay $5M for Michael Huff?
I don’t even want to guess what DMAC is getting.
Morrison…he can be had right now for a 3rd rounder….
Spikes? Do you really beleive that AL DAVIS is going to pick a linebacker that can’t run under 4.6
Wait….Spikes couldn’t be 5.0? That means he isn’t a great player!
March 21st, 2010 at 3:47 pm
anyone watching the cal duke game?
March 21st, 2010 at 3:52 pm
SnB
if we did wait to a later round to get a beast at DT…
this guy is the strongest guy in the world…
Jeff Owens, Georgia
Height: 6-1. Weight: 304.
Projected 40 Time: 4.98.
Combine 40 Time: 4.97.
Pro Day 40 Time: 4.88.
******Bench x 225: 44. ******
Projected Round (2010): 4-5.
1/24/10: Didn’t bounce back well off his knee injury; had 32 tackles, 3.5 TFL and a sack this year.
2/14/09: Suffered a torn ACL in the 2008 season opener.
5/9/08: A quick under tackle with speed who can get to the quarterback. Putting up 525 pounds ain’t bad either.
2007: Jeff Owens may be the smaller of the two Georga defensive tackles, but don’t underestimate his strength; Owens can bench more than 525 pounds.
March 21st, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Yeah, Duke’s got too much for Cal
March 21st, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Florida Pete,
And he has a sub 5.0 40x. I say draft him late if the Davis foolishly bypasses the NTs earlier in the draft.
Another question? Who’s going to be the Slade Norris of 2010?
March 21st, 2010 at 3:58 pm
SnB
and i still like this guy… although we could get him in the 5th or 6th, instead of the 3rd like i was thinking in December…
he might need a bit more time to heal… but still a goo9d late round pick…
gotta like the strength…
Micah Johnson, Kentucky – Scouting Report
Height: 6-2. Weight: 256.
Projected 40 Time: 4.71.
Combine 40 Time: 4.99.
Pro Day 40 Time: 4.84.
Benchx225: 31.
Projected Round (2010): 5-6.
3/10/10: After a disgraceful 4.99 at the Combine, Micah Johnson ran an improved 4.84 at his Pro Day, which is still too slow.
1/8/10: Micah Johnson will miss the postseason bowls and may even be absent for the combine because of a knee injury. Johnson had 105 tackles and 6.5 TFL in 2009.
2/19/09: As one of the leaders of the Wildcats, Micah Johnson recorded 93 tackles, 13 TFL, 2.5 sacks and two passes broken up as a junior. He was on the All-SEC First Team.
8/3/08: Micah Johnson has just one career start under his belt, but he was productive last season in relief. Johnson had 58 tackles, five pass break-ups and two interceptions.
March 21st, 2010 at 3:58 pm
My ideal draft would be this.
1) OL Trent Williams second best after Okung
2) DT MT.Cody imo best run stopper after Suh and Mccoy
3) MLB Brandan Spikes imo the best MLB and a future star
4) OG Mitch Pietrus can again return blocking for DMAC
5) WR/KR/PR Trent Holliday solves our KR/PR right away
5) C Eric Olsen or Jeff Byers both are projects
7) FB Matt Clapp solid Blocker
March 21st, 2010 at 3:59 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 21st, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Florida Pete,
And he has a sub 5.0 40x. I say draft him late if the Davis foolishly bypasses the NTs earlier in the draft.
Another question? Who’s going to be the Slade Norris of 2010?
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who’s Slade Norris ???
March 21st, 2010 at 4:03 pm
LOL – The linebacker we took over your boy Brinkley last year……you probably stopped watching the draft by the time it got to the 4th round…
March 21st, 2010 at 4:08 pm
oh…
THAT slade norris…
yeah…
next question…
actually, i continued to watch the draft in absolute amazement, astonishment, embarrassment, and grief…
as each pick went by… i was hoping no-one would take brinkley…
and then we would pick and… no brinkley…
i still think last year’s draft was the most ridiculous and humiliating draft i ever saw as a Raider fan…
March 21st, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Pete,
Yeah last year was ridiculous. Shaughnessy and Murphy were good picks, but that was just about it.
The DHB pick set the franchise back and Mike Mitchell was not defensible in the 2nd round.
Still need a NT, UT, OT and we could have addressed any one of those three with #7 last year…not to mention WR with Crabtree, Maclin, Harvin, Britt, and just about any other receiver as DHB was the worst rookie receiver last year in terms of production.
Oh well….let’s hope Davis realizes the error in his ways.
March 21st, 2010 at 4:14 pm
SnB
40 Dash yards ain’t nothing brother. Bart Scott went undrafted and played for the Ravens, do you think he had the speed, he plays ILB for the Jets and solid against the run. E.J. Henderson run a 4.8 but guess what he Butkus Award winner highest award for a defensive player in college. My point, Brandan Spike is a great player and you will see that yourself. He is a true leader and he could be the new Takeo Spikes the younger version. Watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4KJUEdN3T8
March 21st, 2010 at 4:15 pm
another late round guy we should grab…
even the Walter football guys think so…
and i trust them !!!
here’s a OT:
Andrew Tyshovnytsky, Fordham
Height: 6-4. Weight: 317.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Pro Day 40 Time: 4.91.
Benchx225: 33.
Projected Round (2010): 5-6.
3/9/10: Andrew Tyshovnytsky shined at his Pro Day. In addition to running a 4.91 and benching 225 pounds 33 times, he performed well in the positional drills. If Al Davis’ gargoyles get these numbers to their master, Tyshovnytsky will be an Oakland Raider.
March 21st, 2010 at 4:16 pm
al davis wont draft spikes. he coulnt even run a sub 5 forty. robert gallery ran a better 40. im not saying spikes is not any good but when if ever has had al drafted a player with that big of a question mark on how fast he is.
March 21st, 2010 at 4:17 pm
One thing about Brandon Spike, he is instinctive player, a guy who watches the game film and studies hard. He knows where he is suppose to be and he can play the 4-3 right away and would be easily become the voice of this defense. AL hopefully sees what I see.
March 21st, 2010 at 4:27 pm
4eve,
Davis values athleticism over all else. He believes you can teach all the other stuff but you can’t teach athleticism.
He won’t be changing that philosophy at all.
No freekn way Davis takes an MLB that runs 5.0+ 40x.
Hell, he would be hesitant to take a lineman that runs 5.0+.
Not saying its right…in fact its very wrong to base draft picks on just speed and strength.
But it is what it is.
so I would focus on another linebacker that has the requisite Raider speed
March 21st, 2010 at 4:27 pm
if we can get Spikes in the 3rd…
i would take him…
but not sooner…
March 21st, 2010 at 4:33 pm
actually, my expectations for this year’s draft is way lower thatn last year’s…
last year i thought we could have an intelligent draft that would inprove our team… especially on defense…
this year i just hope that we as Raider fans aren’t embarrassed…
March 21st, 2010 at 4:34 pm
My guess is that a linebacker has to run a 4.75 40 to get serious consideration Oakland.
Remember Davis reached for Slade Norris and Stryker Sulak based on 40x.
Florida Pete, there has to be some candidates for MLB that can also run to Davis’ specifications
March 21st, 2010 at 4:43 pm
best guy is Rolondo McClain…
but…
Dan Williams…
Bruce Campbell…
man… if one of those two are there at 8…
i think ya gotta go with Williams or Campbell…
Davis will take Taylor Mays…
and convert him to OLB…
welcome to Darnell Bing; chapter two…
March 21st, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Florida Pete Says:
March 21st, 2010 at 4:33 pm
actually, my expectations for this year’s draft is way lower thatn last year’s…
last year i thought we could have an intelligent draft that would inprove our team… especially on defense…
this year i just hope that we as Raider fans aren’t embarrassed…
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Yeah….a Bruce Campbell or Taylor Mays reach at #8 would get the peanut gallery all fired up again
Maybe another out of nowhere pick like an Honerable Mention Guard from the Sun Belt in the 2nd round…..who knows
March 21st, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Florida Pete,
I agree about Mays being converted. Davis is going to see that 4.3 or 4.28 40 and try and find a way to make it work
March 21st, 2010 at 4:50 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 21st, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Yeah….a Bruce Campbell or Taylor Mays reach at #8 would get the peanut gallery all fired up again
Maybe another out of nowhere pick like an Honerable Mention Guard from the Sun Belt in the 2nd round…..who knows
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do you know something about Bruce Campbell that I don’t???
i don’t see him as a reach at 8…
March 21st, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Florida Pete,
He looks like DHB…..
Great measurables, limited starts and pretty raw.
It was either Mike Mayock or the guys on Sirius Radio that said Campbell will take 2 years to get ready
March 21st, 2010 at 5:02 pm
From the Maryland Football site:
An imposing physical specimen who has outstanding athleticism … took over as the No. 1 left tackle midway through the 2008 season … played in 27 career games, including 17 starts, all at left tackle … one of the strongest players on the team during his career … posted a bench press of 490 lbs. in spring 2009 testing, the second-highest total in school history … surrendered his final year of eligibility to enter the 2010 NFL Draft.
As a Junior (2009): Started nine games at left tackle, but battled nagging injuries all season … an All-ACC nominee … suffered a turf toe injury in the season opener against California (9/5), causing him to miss the James Madison (9/12) and the MTSU games (9/19)… returned to action against Rutgers (9/26), starting at left tackle … injured his left knee vs. Clemson (10/3), causing him to miss the Wake Forest game (10/10) … still graded out as the No. 2 offensive lineman vs. the Tigers … returned from his knee injury to start against Virginia (10/17), helping the Terps post 126 rushing yards (most in four games) and allow just one sack … graded out as the team’s second-best offensive lineman vs. the Cavaliers … part of the offensive line that helped Maryland gain a season-high 196 rushing yards and give up just one sack against Florida State (11/21) … graded out as the top offensive lineman vs. Boston College (11/28).
As a Sophomore (2008): Played in all 13 games … saw action as a reserve at LT in the first six contests before starting at that spot the last seven … member of a line that enabled Da’Rel Scott (1,133) to become the seventh Terp back, and first since 2002 (Chris Downs), to gain over 1,000 rushing yards … the line also aided Chris Turner to throw for 2,516 yards, the seventh-highest single-season total in school history … posted the second-fastest 40-yard dash time (4.79) in school history (among offensive linemen) in spring testing … a part of the unit that surrendered just seven sacks during the seven-game span from Sept. 20 to Nov. 15, five of which resulted in Maryland victories … part of the unit that surrendered just one sack and helped Scott rush for a career-high 197 yards vs. Delaware (8/30) … member of the offensive unit that scored 35 points vs. No. 23 Cal (9/13) … part of the unit that accounted for 51 points and 486 total yards against EMU (9/20) … graded out as the team’s top offensive lineman (along with Scott Burley) and earned ACC Lineman of the Week honors for his performance against Wake Forest (10/18) … part of the unit that helped ball carriers rack up 203 rushing yards (including 163 by Scott) vs. NC State (10/25) … part of the unit that helped Scott and fellow RB Davin Meggett combine for 215 rushing yards and allowed just one sack in an upset of No. 17 UNC (11/15) … helped spearhead a solid offensive attack in the win over Nevada in the Roady’s Humanitarian Bowl (12/30) … offense posted 456 total yards, including 258 rushing yards, vs. a Wolf Pack defense which entered the game ranked third nationally against the run (74.5 ypg).
As a Freshman (2007): Appeared in five games at left tackle, including one start … started against Clemson when injuries hit the offensive line… also played vs. Villanova, UNC, BC and FSU … one of three true freshmen (also Haroon Brown and Dominique Herald) to play during the season.
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sorry to post a big block of schit… but it doesn’t look like he needs very much time to be ready to me…
March 21st, 2010 at 5:04 pm
hmmm…
okay…
Dan Williams it is…
which means…
say hello to Taylor Mays !!!
March 21st, 2010 at 5:07 pm
ah… crap …
ya know… the more i think about it…
piss on the ACC…
stick with the SEC…
Dan Williams…
March 21st, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Whats up Raider Blogger Nation I haven’t posted in a long time, hope all is well, I haven’t blogged since the DHB pick I was bitter……Hope this is the draft where we take a step in the right direction picking a linemen on either side.
March 21st, 2010 at 5:10 pm
No way Brandon Spikes slips to the 3rd round.
March 21st, 2010 at 5:14 pm
SnB… weird thing about Dmac is that he was very durable at Arkansas. I hope it’s just bad luck and it’s behind him now because I think he’ll be better utilized with Hue Jackson calling the plays.
Cable may be well-liked and guys may play hard for him, but that guy can’t direct an NFL offense to save his life.
March 21st, 2010 at 5:14 pm
i agree that al davis will probably end up drafting mays. however i dont beleive he will turn him into a linebacker. davis doesnt take linebackers in the first even ones that played safety in college. campbell on the other hand would be an excellent pick out of the top tackles he and baluga project as the best to play on either side of the line. not only would a player like campbell instantly upgrade our rt position but if henderson fails this season we wont be handcuffed into taking a tackle next year.
March 21st, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Cambell is a great project for a left tackle, but he is not a great fit into our blocking system. He doesn’t work well in space, and we require our gaurds and tackles to zone block meaning holding a space no a man. We continuelly draft the best atheletes who don’t fit any particular system but that of one from the 70’s and 80’s. The only way this team turns around is by getting a system and getting players who fit the system, like the good teams do.
March 21st, 2010 at 5:24 pm
i hate the ZBS…
dump it…
March 21st, 2010 at 5:38 pm
i think were going to incorporate more power blocking. thats what baltimore uses, hopefully hue jackson carries that over to oakland and we know how al feels about power blocking.
March 21st, 2010 at 5:40 pm
High risk/High potential
Campbell / Trent Williams
Baluga \ Dan Williams
Anthony Davis / Rolando Mcclain
Joe Hadden \ Maurkice Pouncey
Jason Pierre Paul / Derrick Morgan
Dez Bryant \ Brandon Graham
Mike Iuputi / Charles Brown
March 21st, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Pass
No way we incorporate power blocking and man blocking scheme for our OL. Number one, we don’t have the personnel to do that, number 2, Hue Jackson is not an OL coach, you would have to bring a coach to implement this new system, number 3, why do we still have Cable if we implementing a new system? I believe Cable will continue the ZBS and Hue will focus on play calling and creating new strategies to attack opponents defenses.
March 21st, 2010 at 5:46 pm
377. I’d be happy with anybody on the “high potential” side at #8.
Except the DEs.
March 21st, 2010 at 5:49 pm
I hope we address defensive line personally, I’m tired of being in the bottom 4 teams in the league every year, in Run Defense, it demoralizes the team, and we all know whats coming every second half, our Defense getting run into the ground.
At the same time Offensive line will do just at much,all the fall start penalties, runs for loses, sacks, do just as much damage…… Theres no other way for us to go but either side of the line.
my Draft Wish List
1. Suh
2. Okung
3. Dan Williams
4. Trent Williams
5. Bruce Cambell
6. Rolando Mcclain
7. Anyone who could start immediatly and upgrade any position.
March 21st, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Edward
What I dont understand is this, why not draft a DE who solid against the run and a good pass rusher someone like Derrick Morgan and have Seymour play fulltime DE. Seymour can play DT and is stong against the run, don’t get it why we don’t do that.
March 21st, 2010 at 6:16 pm
Not saying Al won’t draft a DE, Raiders4eve, just that we have bigger needs elsewhere. NT, MLB, O-line are higher priorities, in my humble opinion.
That said, we all know how Al likes his playmakers (or guys he thinks are playmakers) in the first round, and Morgan or Everson Griffen wouldn’t surprise me even a little bit.
March 21st, 2010 at 6:24 pm
how about this im fine with us drafting anybody who doesnt end up a bust. wishful thinking i know.
March 21st, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Yes one probowler drafted in the top 10 picks would be nice for a change……instead of nhambi and 2 kickers being a best players year in year out.
March 21st, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Imo, the signing of Wimbley is a cheap ($1.05m) smokescreen because we’re gonna draft Jason Paul-Pierre at DE.
March 21st, 2010 at 6:35 pm
genius we trade a third round pick and its a smoke screen. wimbleys the strongside linebacker. suprisingly we got plenty of talent at defensive end. what we need is guys in the middle of our defense.
March 21st, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Yeah, of course we do. But in terms of the draft, if we don’t trade up, Suh and McCoy are gone, we have to draft BPA of what’s there at the time (OT/RB/DB/DE).
March 21st, 2010 at 6:41 pm
Trade McFadden for a 1st, trade down our original pick, draft Jahvid Best with it. Draft an DT/MLB with the extra 1st we acquired. Probably have an extra 2nd or 3rd + 5th from the trade down. Draft another RB and two DTs with the middle round picks. Draft OL with all the late picks. And Bob is your uncle!
March 21st, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Saw Mayock on NFL Network talking about Florida pro day. He said he thinks that on tape Spikes looks like a 2nd rounder. But he said he’s never a seen a linebacker who couldn’t break 5 flat in the forty. He thinks that could drop him to the 3rd round.
March 21st, 2010 at 7:16 pm
i have a hard time beleiving anyone would give up a first for mcfadden. if we were lucky maybe pick number 25 or higher and that would be a stretch. nobody wants to give up a first round pick for someone who cant stay healthy and doesnt produce when he is.
March 21st, 2010 at 7:18 pm
If The Browns got a 3rd for Wimbley, then why can’t we trade Huff or DMC for a 2nd, and trade Kirk or TH for a 3rd? Did he play better than Kirk or TH?
March 21st, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Power Zone Blocking should be implemented and more power counter action should be done as well.
What I mean by Power Zone Blocking is to add O-Linemen that are bigger and stronger who are mauler types in the 320 pound range at RG and RT positions and get a strong, smart mauler type of C who can move and are good on their feet…..much like the B-More O-Line.
During short yardage and goal line situations they shouldn’t run a zone but more straight up or counter action type of plays.
March 21st, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Hey Jerry, you on VACATION again,lets go big fella,time to type up! RAIDERS!!!!!!
March 21st, 2010 at 7:25 pm
I don’t think trading up for Suh will be easy, and it will take a lot of work, but I do think it’s possible. TB can use a S & LB, and the lions need help on every position on defense.
Rams: Sam B
Lions: Okung
TB: trade with the Raiders
March 21st, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Raiders!!!!
Later Gents.
March 21st, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Raider draft:
1. DT Dan Williams
2. OT Bruce Campbell
3. CB Brandon Ghee
4. LB Sean Lee
- Jamarcus will have 0 starts in 2010
- Starting RT will be Langston Walker
- Ricky Brown will start at MLB.
March 21st, 2010 at 10:20 pm
- Jamarcus will have 0 starts in 2010
- Starting RT will be Langston Walker
- Ricky Brown will start at MLB.
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I think you are going to be O for three on this one dude
March 21st, 2010 at 10:25 pm
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March 22nd, 2010 at 11:45 am
I find it interesting that the same people who say Al Davis “controls everything” and always has, will then say that Ron Wolf is the reason for the Raider “glory years” and refuse to give Al any credit whatsoever. Well, which is it? If Al has run the org. with such a ‘my way or the highway’ manner, then he surely was the tight fisted general behind the good times as well.
As much as you want, it can’t be both ways. Or is it that you just want to suggest that Al Davis relinquished total control when Ron Wolf was around, but then did 1-80 when Wolf left and resumed his dictatorship afterwords?
Good Years = Ron Wolf (and anyone else besides Al Davis)
Bad Years= Al Davis of course.
Which is it?
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