Report: Asomugha to Eagles for McNabb, Samuel
By Steve Corkran
Thursday, March 25th, 2010 at 6:08 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The unsubstantiated rumors surrounding the Raiders trading for Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb just won’t die down. In fact, they are spinning out of control.
ProFootballTalk.com just reported that the Raiders would send cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha to the Eagles in exchange for McNabb and cornerback Asante Samuel. The Internet site that deals with NFL news on all 32 teams cited an unidentified person who has provided tips that pan out on a regular basis.
Asomugha and McNabb are entering the final year of their contracts, though the Raiders have an option on Asomugha for 2011. Eagles coach Andy Reid said Wednesday that he is entertaining offers for McNabb, as well as his other quarterbacks, Kevin Kolb and Michael Vick. He later clarified his remarks by saying that he isn’t in the “market” for trading any of his quarterbacks but that he is “listening” to any and all offers.
Raiders coach Tom Cable has said more than once this offseason that the starting quarterback job will be “wide open” among JaMarcus Russell, Charlie Frye and Bruce Gradkowski. All three started games last season.
McNabb, no doubt, would jump to the head of the class if he became a Raider. He also could serve as a mentor to Russell, something he has lacked during his three-year NFL career.
The Raiders aren’t allowed to comment on the record about players under contract to another team. Two team employees told the Times on Wednesday that they were unaware of the Raiders contacting the Eagles about McNabb.
The Associated Press reported that the Eagles won’t accept anything less than the No. 42 pick in this year’s NFL draft, which begins April 22 and runs through the 24th. The Raiders hold picks No. 8 and No. 39.
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March 25th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
PLEASE GOD NO!!!
March 25th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Steve Corkran – Your late man and no better than Jerry McDonalds reporting. When are you guys gonna break the news before somebody else? haha.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
I mean’t You’re ok? Don’t judge me…only I can judge you. =D
March 25th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
Good Deal — Do it!
Works on several levels:
1. Raiders get a real &@*@n QB
2. Raider defense is garbage with Asomugha anyway
3. Dump Asomugha’s ridiculous salary
4. Raiders get a real $@&%en QB for the 1st time in a decade
Our defense will be garbage this year because of the owner and most of the fans relunctance to invest in the middle of the defensive line.
McNabb will score points and help with the development of our receivers and tight ends who have never had an NFL caliber QB throw to them
Samuel should be good enough
March 25th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
Strange as it may sound considering all the ridiculous moves we’ve made over the past seven years, this may be the one thing that will cause me to stop watching the Raiders. If they do this, I will actively disown the team. I don’t even know why–the trade seems fine when viewed objectively–but it just strikes me as unforgivable.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
Samuel would bring interceptions.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
From what I have been hearing the Eagles want a 2nd round pick and Michael Bush for McNabb…
March 25th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
whatever!
March 25th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
Papertiger418 – What difference would it make whether you or I cared anyways?
March 25th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
# papertiger418 Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
Strange as it may sound considering all the ridiculous moves we’ve made over the past seven years, this may be the one thing that will cause me to stop watching the Raiders. If they do this, I will actively disown the team. I don’t even know why–the trade seems fine when viewed objectively–but it just strikes me as unforgivable.
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What?
March 25th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
Samuel does not play the run like Nnamdi..
March 25th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
RaiderDogg – Liar.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
hope it happens without giving up our picks for the o and d-lines
March 25th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
24 Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
RaiderDogg – Liar.
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lol
just what I have been hearing, not saying it is the gospel of truth now
March 25th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
# 408RAIDER Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
Samuel does not play the run like Nnamdi..
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He is alot like D. Hall (jumps routes, takes chances) but better.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
408 – I ate a magic chocolate cookie from the medicinal farm and found myself in almost 24 hours of cloudiness mixed with many emotions, thoughts, patterns, feelings and so on. Wow.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
IF MCNABB COMES TO OAKLAND MAYBE WESTBROOK WILL FOLLOW
March 25th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Raiderdogg,
I remember a while ago you said something big was coming for the Raiders.
Can you elaborate at all now?
March 25th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
STL. I am sorry about my last post. I should have addressed it to Kell. I don’t expect my football team during the spring to come out and tell everybody in the world what we plan to do on offense. I think that’s a pretty bad idea?
March 25th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
I would never give up Bush. The weird thing about Bush is…he looks like the slowest slippery moving back I’ve ever seen. It looks like hes going in slow motion but he just slides through tackles for 4 to 5 ypc each time. Its bizarre.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
Make that a magic chocolate chip cookie. My bad.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
I think the lines are now, history, and we were so close…..
March 25th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
STL
my friend was dead set on thinking Cable was gone and that an established HC was on his way. Turns out Hue Jackson was it…
March 25th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Fat Kidd – I would be fine with Westbrook as a 3rd back behind Bush and McFadden. He’d stay healthy on the bench and be productive enough on the field. He reminds me of Charlie Garner but hes old now.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
papertiger41whatever, u wont be the 1st nor the last to jump ship and really nobody cares. what have we done with nnamdi these past yrs.,, oh ok samuels dosen’t play the run as well, shhh so nnamdi has done so well our run d is great, lol.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
24
pft.com just reported the deal with McNabb would need to include a top 42 pick in this year’s draft and it just so happens that the Raiders have pick #39.
Also they are in need of a RB hence the Michael Bush tie in.
For what it’s worth I would hate to see Michael Bush go too…
March 25th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
# Ghost to the Post Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
STL. I am sorry about my last post. I should have addressed it to Kell. I don’t expect my football team during the spring to come out and tell everybody in the world what we plan to do on offense. I think that’s a pretty bad idea?
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Gotcha.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
24 rite on man….
March 25th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Yo 408, how’s the Princess, everything ok?
March 25th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
i bet it really ticked al off when hearing nnamdi was talking ’bout joining revis
March 25th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
STL
my friend was dead set on thinking Cable was gone and that an established HC was on his way. Turns out Hue Jackson was it…
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Fair enough.
I always like the insight, even if it doesn’t pan out.
Just something to dream about.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Eagles are fine at runningback. They just signed Bell from New Orleans and I think he was an RFA
March 25th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
RaiderDogg – I just won’t do it. I REFUSE!!! Bush has never had a fair chance to take this team over. So effin what if he needs a breather, hes effective while on the field so give that fuker his breather and put him back out there. So you take Bush out, put McFadden in for 1 to 2 plays and put Bush back in again…whats the big deal ya know? START HIM!!!
March 25th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
as much as i like Bush, I would rather him go than nnamdi.
talent like nnamdi comes along VERY rarely.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Look, this rebuilding effort isn’t working out too well. Too many do nothing draft picks.
We know that McNabb is a professional NFL QB that just led his team to the playoffs. 100x better than JaDavis or Gradkowski.
Hue Jackson is a real OC…not the baffoonery of Tom Cable….
We have 3 receivers (Schilens, Murphy and JLH) that can catch the ball and make plays…..
Michael Bush is 4.8 ypc running back…and DMAC will be used properly in space.
I say you do this deal without prejudice. Get it done!
Hell, it might blow up in Al’s face. So what? Like rolling with JaDavis and Gradkowski won’t either. At least with McNabb there is a chance!
March 25th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Nam should retire from here, IMO
March 25th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
860 all is well.. no McNabb
March 25th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
If you guys thought we spent a lot of money on Asomugha now…just wait till his next pay day…trade him.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
That’s where this deal breaks down. The Raiders 4/3 man base defense demands that the corners play run defense. Not quite Ansante’s game.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Not bad.
We lose a little in the corner area but that’s not our issue on the D. Our issue is the run D.
We get an experienced QB. I just dont think he is as hyped as some of you guys believe in him. Think about it. Feely, Garcia and Kolb all looked great there. Garcia even made the probowl there. I believe Westbrook affected their win/loss even more than McNabb. I remember there was a stat for that but I cannot find it.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
This is not video games, where stats and such go with players from team to team.
Are the Raiders going to play Philly’s blitz, blitz, blitz defense?
March 25th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
THEY SAID MARCUS ALLEN WAS FINISHED WHEN HE CAME TO THE RAIDERS LOOK WHAT HE DID. WESTBROOK WOULD HELP THE RAIDERS
March 25th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
SnB, our linebackers don’t stand a chance with this light and compromised O-Line, no one in football could stand a chance with it, why sacrifice linebackers?
March 25th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Al Davis trading for a bonafide QB shows he still wants to win. I’d rather see him make that deal over many others any time of day.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
WTG, 408, keep the faith, Bro
March 25th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
Now, Sheldon Brown is an excellent run defending corner.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
Fatkidd- Who said Marcus Allen was finished when he came to the raiders?
March 25th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
NOnononononono NO!
No way we’re going to ship Nnamdi! please dont do it Al…
I woulndt even accept trading our 39th pick(2nd round) for a dimwit like McNabb, I rather go for Jason Campbell for a 4th or something…
But di I have to choose between the Nnamdi deal or the 39th pick for McNabb I sure as he11 rather settle for the last!
March 25th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Bring back Jon Ritchie!
March 25th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
860,
Al Davis and most of Raider Nation could really give a damn about run defense.
Its about scoring points and rushing the passer.
Well, the only way I see us having a prayer of scoring on a regular basis is with a QB like McNabb that knows how to throw the ball.
Defense is ALWAYS going to be garbage in Oakland! Why? Because the fans and the Owner don’t APPRECIATE the role of a good NT.
So, get the QB that can score points.
I don’t even want to watch next year with Bruce Gradkowski and my faith in JaDavis is pretty much shot.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
LMN-You don’t think Mcnabb gives us a shot at being respectable?
March 25th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
No team on Earth would be happy going in with JaDavis and Bruce Gradkowski….
You bring in McNabb and hope he and Hue Jackson can put something together.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
Trade the 2nd Rounder and Nnamdi for McNabb, S Brown and the Eagles 1st Rounder!
March 25th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
SnB, agreed on many points you say, but we will never score points when any QB has 1.2 sec’s to throw the ball, and the only opening a RB gets is when our pathetically light line gets thrown into two defenders, who fall down, and a hole is created. We need to score points, PERIOD. Our O-Line has not got it done for years. Al keeps chasing that carrot on the stick, we pay for it.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
TRADE J.RUSSELL AND 2ND ROUND PICK FOR MCNABB AND SEASON TICKETS
March 25th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
Letting Jon Ritchie go was one of the worst moves I ever saw. The guy was a beast and a true Raider.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
Trade Al Davis and the 2nd rounder for McNabb.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
For all those thinking McNabb was the reason for the Eagles winning….I offer you this analysis from an article in Feb 2009. I was right……..
Here is a quote from the Washington Times regarding the analysis of who truly affects Philly’s offense…
“”He brings so many things to the table, so when we get him the ball and get it to him on a consistent basis, you see what he can do,” Eagles safety Brian Dawkins said.
The numbers confirm Dawkins’ statement. When Westbrook posts 20 or more touches this year, the Eagles are 5-1; when he doesn’t, they’re 3-4-1. The DeMatha alum missed two games because of injury.
It’s Westbrook that makes that the Eagles O go. When McNabb went down their O still produces. What does that tell you?
March 25th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
I think its funny that after 7 years of losing, people are afraid to trade for a Pro Bowl QB. Something is definitely wrong here.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Kell, smartest thing out of you this year! lmao!
March 25th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
# fat kidd Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
TRADE J.RUSSELL AND 2ND ROUND PICK FOR MCNABB AND SEASON TICKETS
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LOL!
Or trade Nnamdi for McNabb and S Brown and flip flop 2nd Round picks?
Then the old man needs to draft the best OT available at #8 or TRADE DOWN and get more damn picks!
March 25th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
860,
Then draft the best OT with the number 8 pick, the best OG with the 3rd round pick…and keep picking OLineman with the rest of the picks…bring in some free agents and have a no-holds barred battle royal steel cage match to pick the starters!
I know rolling with wunderkind Gradkowski or JaDavis will lead all of us back here lamenting how we don’t have the top 10 pick next year
March 25th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
860 post 54 is exactly deadon. We need to build a legit Oline. McNabb will be useless if he is busted up. I believe Grad is more mobile than McNabb is at this stage and he still got busted up by our Oline.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
McNabb for Bush+2nd rounder.
Draft CJ Spiller #8.
Trade McFadden for a Cowboys 1st rounder if J.Best still on the board. Draft J.Best.
Draft J.Chaney with a mid-rounder.
Maybe dance with the devil (Allen-Shananhan) for Haynesworth somehow, dunno what to offer.
Focus on OL late round picks.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
AIG,
Who gives a &@&#t someones opinion about whether McNabb this or that…
I will take McNabb with a shoulder injury, concussion and broken ankle over Bruce Gradkowski and JaDavis….
WE HAVE NO FREEKN QB! A PRO-BOWL QB IS AVAILABLE AT A REASONABLE COST AND YOU GUYS WANT TO SERIOUSLY ROLL WITH GRADKOWSKI!
Raider Nation no longer cares about winning!
March 25th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
# fat kidd Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
THEY SAID MARCUS ALLEN WAS FINISHED WHEN HE CAME TO THE RAIDERS LOOK WHAT HE DID. WESTBROOK WOULD HELP THE RAIDERS
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How can Allen be finished, when he was signed as a rookie?
Didn’t he get rookie of the year?
You’re confused.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
SnB, line has killed us for years, maybe some new blood with an attitude, a new kind of thinking, a good FA or two, but if we want points on the board, this line is not it, with any QB. That is just the way it is.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Shanny is looking for a QB, too.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
We can give him Fatass then happily. Shanahan loves a strong-armed QB too.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
# fat kidd Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
THEY SAID MARCUS ALLEN WAS FINISHED WHEN HE CAME TO THE RAIDERS LOOK WHAT HE DID. WESTBROOK WOULD HELP THE RAIDERS
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How can Allen be finished, when he was signed as a rookie?
Didn’t he get rookie of the year?
You’re confused.
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Maybe he’s thinking of DHB.
March 25th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
Sign RG Shawn Andrews!
March 25th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
SnB, we have no QB’s because the O-Line let defenders in and destroy our 2 reserve QB’s last season. JR, took the hits and kept coming back, don’t blame the QB.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
860,
Robert Gallery got hurt! He was out for most of the season. This in-turn hurt Henderson down the stretch.
We need a RT and RG. That is something that can be addressed in the draft and the remaining free agents.
And before you toss aside Henderson, he had a better season than any of the 1st 3 OTs taken in the draft last year. So keep developing him. Mario Henderson was not the reason your offense was garbage. The reason your offense was garbage was because:
1. Tom Cable was a baffoon OC
2. JaDavis started 7 or 8 games
3. Gradkowski and Frye started the rest
4. Justin Fargas received way too many carries
5. D-HB was on the field
So getting Hue Jackson take care of issue 1
McNabb would take care of issues 2 & 3
Cut Justin Fargas so issue 4 is taken care of
And McNabb in the pocket will mitigate issue 5
March 25th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
oh, and Schiles getting hurt was issue number 6
March 25th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Id take what J.Chaney offers over a McFadden 24/7, btw. That kind of all-round production on defense is far better than some guy who falls over at first contact, fumbles, and gets injured every other time.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
whoevers’ opposed to getting a pro bowl qb is out of their skull, ala gruden.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
We don’t know who Hue Jackson is, offensively.
But, putting McNabb in Al Davis’s offense, doesn’t rock my socks.
Of course he’s better than Russell. He’ll have the same boulder to push up the hill in that counterproductive organization as everybody else who’s been through recently./out.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
# GG Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Id take what J.Chaney offers over a McFadden 24/7, btw. That kind of all-round production on defense is far better than some guy who falls over at first contact, fumbles, and gets injured every other time.
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I take offense to that remark.
Sincereley,
Nick Bell
March 25th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
# HairyBush Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
LMN-You don’t think Mcnabb gives us a shot at being respectable?
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we have 4 respectable players, as in respected by the league, Nnamdi, Lechler, Seabass and Condo… in that order…
trading the best for a guy like McNabb, just makes us weaker, NOT stronger.
I sure like McNabb better than I ever did the Aaron Brooks fiasco, but not at the cost of Nnamdi!
that said, could we land him for the 39th pick I accept it, I never liked McNabb and i probably never will.. a AFC championsship would change that, but the rest of the cast isnt in that caliber, so that is a pipe-dream anyway…
So no, he doe NOT make us respectable, he makes us perhaps a 7 win team, either that or he somehow shows that we still one of the worst teams in the league…
but I rather take a 7 wins season with bruce than with McNabb, certainly if it cost us Nnamdi, McNabb is just a 33 year old flashy has-been name…
Not like Rich Gannon, who was 33 year old, no-name… He had to make a difference… McNabb just has to get his last big pay-check…
March 25th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
SnB, matter of fact, I like Henderson, a Lot. He has stepped up every time called on. I would like to see a great strong side RG and move him to week side and we cure 80% of our problems.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
Make the trade: Asomugha for McNabb & Samuel. Then draft:
1. SUH – DT (trade up – our 1st plus 2012 1st) or Dan Williams – DT if no trade.
2. Maurkice Pouncey – C.
3. Donald Butler – MLB
4. Tony Washington – OT
5A. Mitch Petrus – OG
5B. John Conner – FB
7A. Deji Karin – RB (KR/PR)
7B. Alfonso Smith – RB (KR/PR)
With a decent QB, a rebuilt OL, a rebuilt Dl, young talent at most positions, a new OC w/o Cable involvement, we could easily expect at a minimum, the playoffs.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
# Sweep The Leg. Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
# GG Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Id take what J.Chaney offers over a McFadden 24/7, btw. That kind of all-round production on defense is far better than some guy who falls over at first contact, fumbles, and gets injured every other time.
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I take offense to that remark.
Sincereley,
Nick Bell
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lol
March 25th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
JB, I have never seen Al trade up for a Suh, or anyone else. His dementia isn’t that far along yet. But if we had a GM, hmmmmmm?
March 25th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Philly might WANT a second-rounder for McNabb, but it doesn’t mean they’re going to get it.
As I said yesterday, Reid is blowing smoke. The world knows he’s trying to unload McNabb and get Kolb going, and when you combine that with the small number of teams asking about McNabb it doesn’t take a genius to figure out it isn’t going to cost that much.
“Donavan McNabb is our starting quarterback.”
Translation: “We want a draft pick or a deal that is consistent with trading a starting NFL quarterback, even though we really want to move him so we can start getting something for the money we’re paying Kevin Kolb. Hopefully somebody won’t see through that and will fall for it.”
March 25th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
AT THE COMBINE A REPORTER ASKED JAHVID BEST HOW FAST HE RAN THE 40YD.HE REPLIED I HAVE RAIDERS SPEED.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
I like this deal if it goes down. We hadn’t won sh!t since Nnamdi got drafted. So whoever thinks this is a bad trade, loves the fact that we lose year after year. Plus go look up all the games Nnamdi missed and check out how Routt did and our record in those games with him playing Nnamdi’s spot.
This deal also brings something we haven’t had since Nnamdi got here, a QB. And you guys overlooking Asante Samuel like he is some throw in, in one of those ludacris NBA deals. In fact I like Samuel’s thug style physical play cus dude always fight for the ball and gets it. If this goes down I would immediately go get Pacman to play the slot. we need some hard ass mofos on defense to go with Seymour.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
Id rather give the Eagles Bush+Routt+2nd rounder for McNabb+5th, than give them Asomugha.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Teach, good call!
March 25th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Edward Teach….
problem is, If a team wants a 1st round, AL is going to trade an inyear 2nd round and a 1st next year… so ofcourse if a team want a 2nd round Al trades our 1st round pick… thats Al-logical…
March 25th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
504,
I have always noticed that when Nnamdi gets hurt we still play well.
I don’t have the #’s to back it up, but I know it’s true.
Props for making that point.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
MCNABB IN THE OFF SEASON LIVES IN ARIZONA.HMMMMMM!
March 25th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
BTW, no way Davis trades Asomugha
The Cornerback position is the most valued by Davis. Nnamdi makes elite QB money and Stanford Routt was tendered for 1st and 3rd.
So, in Oaklandspeak, trading Asomugha is = to trading Peyton Manning or Drew Brees.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
SnB,
What part of what I posted was an opinion?
1. The stat says that when McNabb is in there he does not affect his team’s win loss. All of his replacements have been able to produce just as much as him. Heck, Garcia made a probowl while replacing him.
2. My stats showed that Westbrook affected their win loss much more than McNabb does.
Dude, I remember you as a pretty reasonable fan but you seem to be so obsessed with our QB position that you are blinded by McNabb. Get over it. He is a system QB. Their system made him look better than he is. My stats proved it as much.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
LMN… Al might outbid the Bills (or whomever else is in the mix), but he ain’t giving up a first-rounder for McNabb. I’d be shocked if he gave up a second-rounder.
He gets who he wants a lot of the time, but he’s more likely to spend money to do it than give up picks. Seymour was the exception, not the rule.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
LMN post 79 is very good. When you’re not irritating me with your manlove for Kitten you are usually pretty good. lmao.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
SnB, Aso doesn’t put points on the board, and I truly think Al has only that on his mind. I’ve been here since 64′, and his biggest passion is putting 6 on the board on the first possession, taking the other team out of its game, and making them run uphill to the end. That is AD football, 101. Aso may be expendable, IMHO.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
IF ASOUGHMWA CAN BE CONVERTED TO QB THAN YOU KEEP HIM?
March 25th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
AIG,
I am sick and tired of losing. Sick and tired. Sick and tired of the excuses too.
I know what I see with JaDavis and Bruce Gradkowski…and that equals another lost season GUARATEED!
Will McNabb solve all the problems? Probably not. But he solves the BIGGEST problem…and that’s the QB.
You can’t win with a 1st round bust and a scrappy gym-rat with no talent.
McNabb gives us the best shot to win.
Also, we are not going to fix the defense with a top tier NT…so we will continue to get smashed in the run game.
McNabb gives us a CHANCE to score points. We have some decent receiving talent with Schilens, Murphy and JLH a good TE with Miller and a good running back in Bush and a competent NFL O.C.
Get a RT and RG with McNabb and we will have an NFL caliber offense for the 1st time in almost a decade.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
The last time Al gave up a very good Raider for a hotshot QB…….Jay Shroeder….how did that work out?
March 25th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
GG Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
Id rather give the Eagles Bush+Routt+2nd rounder for McNabb+5th, than give them Asomugha.
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Huh????????
March 25th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
PriestTJ,
This reply is in regards to your post #230 on the “Report: Raiders inquire about trading for Eagles QB McNabb” thread.
“I understand your concern for Russell if McNabb comes here but what this does is buy him time to fully develope without having to turn things around here.”
So you’re saying that you admit that Russell isn’t near being ready to be a fulltime starter in the NFL.
“Especially with someone he can identify with.”
How exactly is it that JR can identify with McNabb moreso than with any of the veterans and coaches that we already have? As someone who calls out other people for racism that they never intended, you seem to have tipped your hand a bit on how you really feel there.
Okay now… here is the BIG one. Are you ready for it?
“This guy can come here and get us back to the big game in a hurry. Most certainly the playoffs”
You just ADMITTED that with a good quarterback, the rest of the Raiders team AS IS can make the playoffs in your opinion… and even went so far as to say “back to the big game in a hurry”!!! All your excuses, apologism, and lies to cover JR’s bad play have just been undermined by you trying to argue against the people who don’t want McNabb in Oakland. You just accidentally called out your own BS and showed everyone that deep down inside, you know that the supporting cast is good enough to win the WEAK AFC West if not for the horrible play that JR has shown us to date.
For the record, I hope that JR continues to do all that he needs to do to become elite and fulfill his potential. However, I have always taken issue with your excuses and lies. Didn’t you say that with a better supporting cast, JR would be a playoff QB? Didn’t you say that the lack of great supporting cast is what made JR look so bad and that he was far better than everyone says? … Yet NOW, you say that with a change at QB (brining in McNabb), we’re instantly a playoff team and within reach of the Superbowl! LMAO!!! You slipped up and showed your hand, TJ. You have admitted that you’re full of it and that you truly do know that Cable was right when he said that with better QB play, we’d have been in the playoffs… it just took having to defend another BLACK quarterback for you to come clean and show your true feelings. How’s it feel to be the one that proved that you’re a racist and blindly defended JR’s terrible play solely because you didn’t want him to lose his job to a white boy? You’re totally fine with a black man sending him to the bench to “develop,” though, aren’t you? LOL @ how you want JR to start immediately and say that it’s what he needs in order to develop when it’s Gradkowski who would start instead… but say the exact OPPOSITE is needed in order for JR to develop when it’s a BLACK quarterback instead of Grads.
Enjoy your hypocisy, you racist punk.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Not so fast SnB,
Maybe Nnamdi was being shopped from the get go and the Routt tender was to guarantee we don’t lose him. I’m telling you guys, Routt can play Nnamdi’s spot. He just cannot play the slot. Routt and Nnamdi are about the same size and Routt may be faster. Only difference is Nnamdi scored more on the SAT and his Cal degree carries more weight than Routt’s Univ. Houston degree (if he has one).
Thanks for the props Sweep. I know two of those games were when we beat Houston and Tampa at the end of 08. So that would be Andre Johnson and Antonio Bryant I presume.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
GG Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
Id rather give the Eagles Bush+Routt+2nd rounder for McNabb+5th, than give them Asomugha.
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My bad, I get it now. I thought you said THEN give them Aso instead of THAN. Lol.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Aig… you would have a lot more credibility if you didn’t compare Jay Schroeder to Donavan McNabb.
Seriously, dude. Find a better analogy, or come up with another argument.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
aig Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
The last time Al gave up a very good Raider for a hotshot QB…….Jay Shroeder….how did that work out?
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How many Super Bowls and NFC Championship games did Jay Schroeder play in? How many pro-bowls? Division championships? Chunky Soup commercials?
Get outta here with that lame comparison
March 25th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
SnB,
I dont disagree with you that we need to address our QB position. However, I just dont think McNabb is all that you think he is. LMN is right. With McNabb we get maybe 2 more wins but will he be here to turn this thing around or just collect a big paycheck from Al? I’d like to think the latter.
Think about it. The QB position is so important in this league BUT why would the Eagles trade him? Nobody trade away a top tier QB. How did Favre do with the Jets? and the Jets had more talent than we do. Cutler didnt do anthing for the Bears either. Teams just dont trade away a great QB.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
504 Raider Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Not so fast SnB,
Maybe Nnamdi was being shopped from the get go and the Routt tender was to guarantee we don’t lose him. I’m telling you guys, Routt can play Nnamdi’s spot. He just cannot play the slot. Routt and Nnamdi are about the same size and Routt may be faster. Only difference is Nnamdi scored more on the SAT and his Cal degree carries more weight than Routt’s Univ. Houston degree (if he has one).
Thanks for the props Sweep. I know two of those games were when we beat Houston and Tampa at the end of 08. So that would be Andre Johnson and Antonio Bryant I presume.
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I totally agree. I wouldn’t lose a minute of sleep if we could get a king’s ransom for Aso. By the way, that two-game stretch was the best this team has looked during this 7-year drought. How we managed to screw things up is beyond me.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
I dont think Rouut is as good player in man to man situations like Asmough. Routt got burned by Desean Jackson. Btw, I would say trade our 8th pick for Mcnabb, Asante and Bradley MLB, anyways old man would have got Campbell with that pick.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
Did anyone here ever think that Cable threw JR under the bus, to satisfy AD, cause he doesn’t want him?
March 25th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
THE MCNABB DEAL WILL FALL APART AND LATER ON WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT TONY ROMO COMING TO THE RAIDERS
March 25th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
Man You guys are saying Nnamdi is expendable very cautiously like it hurts or you don’t wanna hurt someone’s fellings. Here let me help:
Man, F%#K Asomugha! And I like the dude but this trade makes us better instantly.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
504,
How many cornerbacks has Al Davis drafted in the last 10 years?
I won’t post the list…but take my word for it…had he the same passion for D-Line…we wouldn’t have the worst run defense in the NFL
March 25th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
Just the thought of this gives me a headache. Get rid our hands down best player for an aging injury prone Qb & a corner who somewhat reminds me of DeAngelo Hall (a lil’ better, not a lot) when we’ll probably just end up going 7-9. So people think its a good idea to get rid of one of the cornerstones for 2 more wins? Everyone is entitled to thier opinion though. I think its a terrible idea.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
I dont think Rouut is as good player in man to man situations like Asmough. Routt got burned by Desean Jackson. Btw, I would say trade our 8th pick for Mcnabb, Asante and Bradley MLB, anyways old man would have got Campbell with that pick.
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Exactly 4eve! The 1st round pick is not worth much in Oakland because Davis wastes them so easily.
I think we can get McNabb with less though…but point well taken
March 25th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
NFL NETWORK REPORTS ITS A TWO HORSE RACE BUFFALO AND OAKLAND FOR MCNABBS SERVICES.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Aig…
The Eagles are trying to trade McNabb for financial reasons. He’s in the final year of his contract, and they’re paying Kevin Kolb an awful lot of money to sit on the bench as a backup. The organization is well-known for being frugal.
Rather then let McNabb walk as a free agent next year they’re trying to get something for him now. One more reason to call their bluff and not give up the farm to get him.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Ed and SnB,
You guys are both missing the point.
At that time, Jay Shroeder was thought to be an above avg QB before he came to the Raiders. Jeff George was thoguth to be an above avg QB before the Raiders. Pastorini was thought to be an above avg QB too before he came here.
The only guys that worked were guys that had to work their rears off to stay on our roster. Plunkett was an afterthought for Al Davis. Gannon was nothing special and had to make a name for himself.
Sapp, Armstrong, Maryland and Moss have not worked out. They were studs at their prev places. The only time things have worked out is when Al got players that wanted to prove something.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
# 504 Raider Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
I like this deal if it goes down. We hadn’t won sh!t since Nnamdi got drafted. So whoever thinks this is a bad trade, loves the fact that we lose year after year. Plus go look up all the games Nnamdi missed and check out how Routt did and our record in those games with him playing Nnamdi’s spot.
This deal also brings something we haven’t had since Nnamdi got here, a QB. And you guys overlooking Asante Samuel like he is some throw in, in one of those ludacris NBA deals. In fact I like Samuel’s thug style physical play cus dude always fight for the ball and gets it. If this goes down I would immediately go get Pacman to play the slot. we need some hard ass mofos on defense to go with Seymour.
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Pac Man?? That guy is done!
Trade Aso and a 3rd Rounder for McNabb, S Brown and the Eagles 2nd Rounder!
March 25th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
I dont think Rouut is as good player in man to man situations like Asmough. Routt got burned by Desean Jackson. Btw, I would say trade our 8th pick for Mcnabb, Asante and Bradley MLB, anyways old man would have got Campbell with that pick.
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LMFAO!
Routt got burned by DeSean Jackson? Shiidd, half the damn league gets burned by DeSean. That cat is the real deal. Now if he got burned by Javon Walker or JLH, then you’d be on to something.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
I don’t like this trade at all.
I would rather have the allstar corner and the draft pick.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
AIG (Alisgod),
Perhaps if the owner did a better job in the draft, we wouldn’t have to have this conversation.
JaDavis has been a HUGE disappointment and there is no way a team should turn over the keys to a 3x cut journeyman QB who’s only redeeming value is that he’s “feisty” Gotta have talent to win in this league nad McNabb offers THE ONLY chance to acquire it quickly.
This is the price for having an organization and coaching staff that has not developed a young QB in over 35 years
March 25th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Edward,
I can assure you. Nobody trades away a QB that can take them to new heights. McNabb is not going to take them to the SB and that is why he is expandable. I will be the first to apologize to both you and SnB if proven wrong this year when McNabb goes to the Rams, Raiders or Bills and bring them to the playoffs. The only place for him that makes any sense is the Cardinals.
McNabb does not make his team better. he has benefited from the Eagles making him looking better. My argument again relies ont he fact that his backups have looked great replacing him only to get cut in new teams. AJ Feely for a 2nd round from Miami. Anyone remembers that?
March 25th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Neither Jeff George, Dan Pastorini nor Jay Schroeder ever made the Pro Bowl, ever took their teams to multiple conference championships or a Super Bowl.
You really need to quit with these comaprisons. There’s nothing there.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
78. The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Rather or not I’m relevant hinges on the responses I get, doesn’t it?
79. The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Hayez, rather you guys talk about me or not, I’m going to talk about Al.
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Do you have a patent on the incorrect use of the word “rather”
For someone who tries to pass himself off as a pseudo-intellectual, it must be disappointing to be so literally inept…if you only knew.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
AIG,
Donavan McNabb is a top tier QB. Schroeder and all those other guys were thought to have the ability to be elite and Davis thought he could rehab them. Same with Gannon…but it worked with Gannon.
McNabb would be the first QB the Raiders got that was already at a high level coming into the team. If McNabb can give us the same play as last year…that will MILLIONS of LIGHT YEARS ahead of JaDavis and the Gyn-rat
March 25th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
SnB, with our O-Line, Fiesty, takes on a whole new meaning!
March 25th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
Im surprised that no one hasnt recognise that this whole pursuing of Donovan McNabb is probably just a smoke screen to send a message to JaMarcus & the rest of the Qbs, but particularlly JaMarcus that its time to get it right, or get left.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
SnB,
Yes Al has sucked it in the last 8 years. I agree 100%. i still hope he goes out with one last bang. I feel for the old geezer.
However, I would rather we address our Olines first before we get a bonafide QB in here. If we had a solid Oline in there right now, I’d be all for getting McNabb. But we dont.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
Aig… it’s a business decision on the part of the Eagles. They’re either going to lose McNabb, or they’re going to lose Kolb. They like Kolb, he’s younger and they can pay him less than they would have to pay McNabb next year. Simple as that.
You can believe what you want, but that’s the deal.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
SnB,
McNabb wont be able to do anything with 1.2 secs.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
Kent Somers, of The Arizona Republic, reports the Arizona Cardinals are not interested in Philadelphia Eagles QB Donovan McNabb. .
March 25th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
# aig Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
LMN post 79 is very good. When you’re not irritating me with your manlove for Kitten you are usually pretty good. lmao.
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LOL, sharing the love to night, huh =)
well I thought the same stuff about you post regarding McNabb vs westbrook..
and
March 25th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Nnamdi is not that good…he make’s no difference on the Raiders D…it sucks WITH him, can’t be worse without him.
Might as well turn him into more players, Samuel & McNabb and no loss of draft picks sounds good to me.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
I take a franchise like QB like McNabb any day of the week…..just as long as the old man Al doesn’t overpay! McNabb
Need a good QB to win consistently in the NFL, along with a good O-Line and D-Line and the Raiders just do NOT have a good QB….if they get McNabb, then they can focus on the O-Line and D-Line in the draft and free agency. Maybe even sign TO!
March 25th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
why would Al want a QB that stands for everything he hates in a QB?? I dont get it, okay he is a 1st rounder, I know Al Loves that, but besides that? WHAT?
March 25th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
DKnight,
Pacman is not done. In fact Detroit is making a real push for him right now because the head coach was his DB coach at Tenn. Pacman has down here in the 504 for the past 3 months working with a disciple of Tom Shaw. Shaw is the training guru who has made guys millions by preparing them for the draft. Pacman has been here and has not come close to getting in trouble. You don’t get in trouble in New Orleans, you can handle just about anywhere. At Tulane’s pro day last week, Pacman worked out for 4 teams. I wasn’t there but I hope the Raiders had somebody there. Detroit did.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
Pretty Rick Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
Im surprised that no one hasnt recognise that this whole pursuing of Donovan McNabb is probably just a smoke screen to send a message to JaMarcus & the rest of the Qbs, but particularlly JaMarcus that its time to get it right, or get left.
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Actually, I think this is probably closer to the truth. You have to believe that JaDavis and the Gyn-rat have to be reading the paper and know that the message is clear…”the coaches and owner don’t believe you can get it done”
So winwin either way. Although I hope it works out and we have a new #5
March 25th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
24 Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
408 – I ate a magic chocolate cookie from the medicinal farm and found myself in almost 24 hours of cloudiness mixed with many emotions, thoughts, patterns, feelings and so on. Wow.
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been there…lol. Enjoy it!
March 25th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
McNabb is not done either…he has at least 4 more productive years ahead of him!
He will be even better with a consistent and effective running game!
March 25th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
i really like Asomugha and don’t want to see him go. He shuts down half the field and is great for the community. I’d rather give up picks and just acquire McNabb.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
I turn down the deal if we lose Bush…he is a special talent that we need to let loose, hopefully Jackson knows better than the offensive genius Tom Cable.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
# 504 Raider Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
DKnight,
Pacman is not done. In fact Detroit is making a real push for him right now because the head coach was his DB coach at Tenn. Pacman has down here in the 504 for the past 3 months working with a disciple of Tom Shaw. Shaw is the training guru who has made guys millions by preparing them for the draft. Pacman has been here and has not come close to getting in trouble. You don’t get in trouble in New Orleans, you can handle just about anywhere. At Tulane’s pro day last week, Pacman worked out for 4 teams. I wasn’t there but I hope the Raiders had somebody there. Detroit did.
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Pac Man is done….only thing he may be good for is as a punt returner…as a CB…he is done IMO.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
Evening Fellas,
Make the trade for McNabb.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
What good is having Asomugha if you don’t have him trail the opponents #1.
The defense is so freekn rigid. Then, you add the fact that the Raiders CANNOT STOP THE RUN!
So why throw when you can kill the defense with runs and screens all day.
I have no problem trading Asomugha. He could bring in new picks or players that could help this pathetic defense
March 25th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
Bedtime. Have a good night everybody.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
WE WONT NEED BUSH IF WE USE OUR 8TH PICK ON CJ SPILLER
March 25th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
Don’t forget also how much better it will be playing as the Raiders on Madden 11 with McNabb under center.
I have something like a 270-150 record with Grad/Frye/Russell. And probably 50 wins deprived from glitch-quitting and 30 from disconnections at my end when winning.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
If the old man trades Huff, then watch out with the Taylor Mays talk again…..ugh!
March 25th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
SnB, our defence has it’s bright spots, how many games in the last 7 did we lose by 3 or less?
March 25th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
MCNABB WILL PUT ASSES IN THE SEATS
March 25th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
7 years
March 25th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Did anybody see the Touchdown that “SteveAlford21″ threw against “TJ” the other night.
A classic case of TJ having his words “let people talk and they will eventually expose themselves” kind of stuff.
TJ got exposed for being the Racist, Racist card-playing, two-faced, lying sham that he is.
I for one enjoyed it very much.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Nite Ed….
Snb, you are dead on with Nnamdi. I’d rather we trade Nnamdi to rebuild our lines. I tell you man. I see Eric Berry being drafted to play corner for us. I was thinking Mays but Al loves Berry’s speed and want to show he is a genius by making him a corner.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Fix the offensive and defensive tackle positions first, then go for a veteran quarterback.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
# edward teach Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
Bedtime. Have a good night everybody.
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yeah for me too…
Guys take care! sleep tight, when that its time for such things…
March 25th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
or keep all your picks, and grab a QB if you can.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
860,
Bottom 5 against the run every year ain’t cutting it. Too many games like the ones against Houston, Giants, Jets. Too many games of getting pounded on the ground. Just too many for my liking.
Can’t stop the run…and then Kirk Morrison is covering Brandon Marshall.
Anyway, my point is, Asomugha on roster and the defense is still pretty bad. And Asomugha is making top 5 QB money. For a team at 5-11, i have no problem turning Asomugha in for lineman or draft picks or a real QB
March 25th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
IF YOU GET RID OF Nnamhdi we have thr 8th pick and joe haden of florida sitting there
March 25th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
McNabb = instant, credible quick fix to the most important position on the team.
Make it happen.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Too all, as I drift off to sleep, my mind only think’s bruising N-Tackle, O-Line that is the bus, not getting off of it, and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz nite!
March 25th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
I think the “Fat Kid” is right…Al must think that Cable can “coach-up” the Oline and therefore he can draft Defense or Skill players.
Al loves Skill players and he would love to correct his mistake in missing on Chris Johnson and will grab CJ Spiller. He is the best “sexy” pick left to us when 4 OT’s and 2 DT’s get picked before us.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
I repeat…
Random Drug Tester Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Nnamdi is not that good…he make’s no difference on the Raiders D…it sucks WITH him, can’t be worse without him.
Might as well turn him into more players, Samuel & McNabb and no loss of draft picks sounds good to me.
(also repeat: RMR has no social redeeming value)
March 25th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
So there’s a thought:
JaMarcus as QB + Nnamdi + C Johnson as CBs
or
McNabb + Asante Samuel + Joe Haden as CBs.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Now I am hearing that the Raiders are offering Michael Bush and a 3rd round pick, #69, for Donovan McNabb with the intention of using the 2nd round pick, #39, on Jahvid Best to replace Bush.
Remember, I am just passing along information, I am not saying this is what I want or am I endorsing what is being told to me.
I would hate to see Mike Bush go, he reminds me of Earl Campbell.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
@24
Cut the Corkoran some slack dude, major publications break this sort of news first because they got the resources (ie cash) to have people all over the field. why read this blog and leave comments 24-7 if youre just gonna *itch.
anyways, back to the topic, that sh** just annoys me tho. isnt Samuel a similar CB as DeAngelo? meaning he doesnt play man to man? i think this is a horrible trade. if i remember correctly, samuel signed a pretty fat deal himself, and mcnabb will maybe give us 3 years tops of decent football
So were basically giving up the BEST CB IN THE GAME, for a 2 year rental at QB, and a CB who doesnt fit the system, and will be making a little less than Nnamdi,
This would make sense if we were a contending team, but were not.
Id rather keep this team, cut J-Marc, start Grad, and leave the defense AS IS. FIX THE O-LINE, STOP WITH THIS DB/SAFETY BS
March 25th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
I think that using Nnamdi in a trade for McNabb is premature.
When it’s reported that the bills/Raiders/and mystery team are the only ones interested all you have to do is beat those other teams.
I think our 3rd, a 7th, and next years 3rd which based on McNabbs stats becomes a 2nd would be close to getting it done.
That wouldn’t sacrafice this years draft and wouldn’t have to give up Nnamdi. What is Buffalo going to give up that is close to what we would be offering? That’s the ? that has to be asked. There’s plenty of teams that need QB’s but aren’t in the McNabb sweepstakes. Don’t necessarily belive it’s a complete indictment of McNabb either.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
If Al truely is in hot pursuit, I could imagine Him offering a few options to the Eagles.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
So here’s a thought:
Nnamdi’s salary – McNabb’s salary = money to spend on Mawae and any other quality Olineman out there.
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at #8 if Eric Berry is there…IT’S A GOOD PICK!!! or Kyle Wilson even.
Our secondary isn’t that good with Nnamdi…time to re-tool.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
I dont’ understand the Raiders insistence on trading Michael Bush. A big back that can run the ball downhill…did the most with the few carries the baffooon O.C would give him and he’s inexpensive.
To bring in yet another draft pick. We can’t get DMAC up to speed…now we want to try with another rookie.
Forget it. Keep Michael Bush and give him the ball…with McNabb at QB, we would have a legit offense
March 25th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
RDT – are you seriously thinking of taking Kyle Wilson with the 8th pick?
March 25th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
we gave up our first round pick next year in the seymore deal and we could replace it in a deal for asoughmwa for a first next year and draft joe haden with our 8th pick this year
March 25th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
Midwest Fan Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
RDT – are you seriously thinking of taking Kyle Wilson with the 8th pick?
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No, definitely not…my point is that I believe 4 OT’s and 2 DT’s will be gone when we pick, and we need to take the BPA at 8th and need to have more options on which position they play.
Given that scenario, I want to be able to take Berry or Bryant or Spiller and be glad about it.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
Anyone wanting to start a gym-rat or a 1st round bust over a multi-Pro-Bowl, multi-playoff NFL QB doesn’t care about winning
March 25th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
On a side note:
Today I had lunch with former Raider Reggie Barlow. He is currently Head Coach at Alabama State University. Anyway, I asked him if Al Davis changes defensive gameplans during the week or meddles with the gameplans and he emphatically answered no in less than milliseconds. Now either he is telling the truth or He just got off the phone with Hererra.
Barlow was brought in by Gruden and went with Gruden to Tampa and won the SB. He said after the game (SB)the team buses were one behind the other and Al Davis was in the front seat with his head down. He nudged Gruden and told him to look at him with his face in his hands and Gruden said “I hope that F%#ker croaks, F%#k him.” Barlow was like “Damn.”
He also said after all week of watching film, for the only time in his life going into a game he felt that the “opponent (Raiders) was way way better than his team (Bucs).” He also said it was “arrogance” on Callahan’s part to not change the plays and audibles which obviously Gruden took advantage of.
Barlow is a cool cat. He got cut from us and left kind of bitter and said he will give me all his Raiders stuff he has in his closet since he now knows how big a fan I am. Can’t wait. One is a Rice jersey signed by Rice, Tim Brown, and Freddy B. (ooohhh I can’t wait)
March 25th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
That’s fine, I just thought that if you meant that if Berry was gone you’d be fine with taking Wilson @ 8. I like Wilson, just not that much.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
I would love to hear McNabb’s view on this. I’m sure he’s looking forward to playing on a team with no offensive line, and that puts its quarterbacks on an island with an archaic passing game calling for 7 step drops most of the time. McNabb just spent a decade in the WCO, the most QB friendly offense ever invented. HE’s going from that to the Sid Gilman air raid? This guy will retire the minute the trade is official…which would nullify the trade anyway. Not going to happen, dreamers.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Crazy Al might want Wilson, or Demetrius Thomas or Ryan Matthews…and I want to defend myself against that calamity. lol
March 25th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
505 Raider, nice tall tale.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Have any of you ever wondered that the reason Al tries to build teams via these crap shoot trades and free agent overspending sprees is because he has no clue how to build a team through the draft? Ron Wolf, you can help us, can’t you, Ron Wolf?
March 25th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
if you want to make a trade dangle darren mcfadden in jerry jones face .jerry jones almamater=arkansas
March 25th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
I would love to hear McNabb’s view on this. I’m sure he’s looking forward to playing on a team with no offensive line, and that puts its quarterbacks on an island with an archaic passing game calling for 7 step drops most of the time. McNabb just spent a decade in the WCO, the most QB friendly offense ever invented. HE’s going from that to the Sid Gilman air raid? This guy will retire the minute the trade is official…which would nullify the trade anyway. Not going to happen, dreamers.
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Don’t be a hypocrite RMR…you have said that Al hates veteran players because they will go out and do the right thing on the field to win…McNabb won’t 7-step drop all game to his or the team’s detriment.
You can’t have it both ways, everything isn’t a negative to fuel your man-hate for Al.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
You don’t have the credibility to label anyone a hypocrite, Frequent Drug User. Stopped reading your comment right there.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
What trade is Bush supposedly involved in?
March 25th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
The only trade that will help this football team is for offensive line men and/or a couple of run stoppers on defense. No trade for any skill position player is going to jack for us. We’ve been here. Moss, anyone?
March 25th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
504…
holy cow….i hope you were not kidding…
Man, we may not like Al Davis and he sounds crazy all the time but the man is usually dead on in pressers.
He did blame Callahn for not changing the plays and he was right. now I’m even more pissed!!!!
March 25th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
McNabb for Nnamdi?
Of course that brings CB back into play at 8. Either Haden or Berry.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
fat kidd Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
if you want to make a trade dangle darren mcfadden in jerry jones face .jerry jones almamater=arkansas
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Jerry Jones came in his pants when Felix Jones fell to him. He never wanted DMAC….and neither should have we.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
bush and asoughmwa for mcnabb and asante samuel
March 25th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Al is dead on in pressers? AIG, what kind of meds are you on today, bud?
“He’s a great playah, get over it”. Remember that dandy from Al?
March 25th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
504 Raider is lying, anyway. About Barstow, Gruden, etc. Making stuff up, like a kid.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Barlow I meant, not Barstow. 504 Raider made up that story about Barlow and Gruden.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
Jhill
This is what I am hearing:
RaiderDogg Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Now I am hearing that the Raiders are offering Michael Bush and a 3rd round pick, #69, for Donovan McNabb with the intention of using the 2nd round pick, #39, on Jahvid Best to replace Bush.
Remember, I am just passing along information, I am not saying this is what I want or am I endorsing what is being told to me.
I would hate to see Mike Bush go, he reminds me of Earl Campbell.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
Grow up RMR…the label refers to the fact that when some friends and I formed one of the “original” fantasy football teams, random drug testing was the hot topic of the day, not an excuse for you to run away from someone who challenged your truly disturbed, obsessive hatred, for your supposedly favourite team.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Frequent Drug User, you telling someone to grow up is like someone in a Raider uniform telling someone to be a better football player.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Does anyone believe McNabb will come here?
March 25th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Where’s Troy Smith when we need him? He culd bring credibility to the QB position. Irrespective of that, we still need to focus on 3 O-linemen, 1 DT, 1 MLB, 1 FB & 2 RB (PR/KR). Do all that and we are playoff bound.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
I also would like to see what Michael Bush could do for us, friends and I were interested in seeing where he would go in his draft year based on his previous high ranking and subsequent injury.
Of course, when we got him in the 4th round I was ecstatic and the rest where saying #(#)*%%&.
So far, the genius offensive mind of Tom Cable has not found a way to exploit his talents. I would like to see if Hue Jackson has a different plan for him, but I am willing to see what could happen with the players he could bring us in a trade.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Real MaddenRaider,
What does it matter? Not going to win with JaDavis and the Gym-Rat…..so let’s give McNabb a shot.
Also, no reason why we can’t get McNabb and fix the O-Line at the sametime.
For you it should be neutral. Davis is going to continue making bad decisions as long as he owns the club. But getting McNabb would be a good decision. All we need is a RT and RG anyway. That’s doable
March 25th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
We need a new owner and management too, JB. Even if we filled all of those needs, Al would find a way to screw it up. Al has to go before we win ANYTHING.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
# fat kidd Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
we gave up our first round pick next year in the seymore deal and we could replace it in a deal for asoughmwa for a first next year and draft joe haden with our 8th pick this year
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Reach for Joe Haden huh? No thanks….there are better CB’s IMO that can be found in later.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Samuel is like Hall, a predominately zone CB. Why give Aso for McNabb and Hall 2.0 when the 39th overall pick should suffice? However, I was thinking maybe Aso for McNabb and DJax…. Make McNabb’s transition to Oakland a lot easier when he has a familiar target to throw to not named TO….
March 25th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
All we need is a right tackle and right guard…lol. You should try getting on a stage.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Real MaddenRaider, you’re lucky this is a blog where people have to accept you and not a bar or public area where you and your unacceptable attitude and behaviour would be dealt with. Now go call the cops on me if you are afraid and feel threatened loser.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Ok Dogg,
Thanks!
March 25th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Al Davis, who’s supposed to be sharp when it comes to defense, is going to trade for another zone corner who can’t even play in his defense? What a freakin defensive genius!
March 25th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Real MaddenRaider,
Gallery is fine at LG and Mario Henderson is fine at LT. young players take some time to develop. Henderson seemed to struggle when Gallery was replaced by Chris morris…..
Satele at Center could use an upgrade…but the big issue is RT and RG….
March 25th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
Ooooh, I’m lucky this is a blog where people have to accept me and not a bar or public area where I and my unacceptable attitude and behavior would be dealt with….
March 25th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
That’s right RMR, I am calling you out…just for the record, you have earned it.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Gallery and Henderson are “fine” at their position? What does fine mean? Does that mean they’re playing at a pro bowl level? You’re guzzling the kool aid.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
ooooh, that’s right. Random Drug User is calling me out…just for the record. I’ve earned it. Yikes. I’m shaking.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Chris Cook from West Virginia is a Nnamdi clone at 6′2, 212, with long arms and smooth transition skills in coverage.
I would rather Devin McCourtey also!
Ohwusu-Ansah from IOP at 6′1, 207 is another good one!
March 25th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
RMR,
Dude you don’t know me. I don’t have time to come on here and post lies. I got alot of important stuff to do which explains my sporadic posting. When I do post I like to include humor in it, but I never ever lie about what I post.
Aig,
That’s the real deal straight from Barlow. He also told me (which is mentioned by Jerry and others in here) that when he played for Jax’ville there were so many rules and things were so structured. When he got to the Raiders, there were no rules and you could do anything you want. He said what really wowed him was meeting guys like Ted Hendrichs, Cliff Branch, and other Raider greats who were regulars at headquarters. The conversations he had with those guys were priceless.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
And remember, guys. He’s calling me out…”just for the record”. When people say, “just for the record”, it makes them sound powerful in the political sense. I’ve never been more scared in my life.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
504, you’re right, I don’t know you, and I don’t want to know you. Mainly, because you’ve already proven yourself to be a liar. Got anymore stories you want to make up about Gruden and former players?
March 25th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
But getting McNabb would be a good decision. All we need is a RT and RG anyway.
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Agree on Mc Nabb but would settle for Troy Smith. We need a center as badly as ROG & ROT, possibly more. We haven’t had a decent center since Barrett Robbins. That position is key to the o-line performance.
Draft:
Pouncey, C (6′5″-304)
Tony Washington, OT (6′6″-311)
Mitch Petrus, OG (6′3″-310)
March 25th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
oh…just for the record.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
yep, you’re a smart mouth in the safest area to be one…the pu$$y zone.
You’re so cool, hate everything, everybody’s opinion is not as worthy as your’s and you don’t have to stand up or face anybody in person.
Well done, what’s next? kickin’ ass at a Senior’s home?
March 25th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
do not forget we have a reciever that was hurt last year drew carter and did not get to see him ,this year he is okay and mcnabb will have someone to throw too
March 25th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
# Demon Raider Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Samuel is like Hall, a predominately zone CB. Why give Aso for McNabb and Hall 2.0 when the 39th overall pick should suffice? However, I was thinking maybe Aso for McNabb and DJax…. Make McNabb’s transition to Oakland a lot easier when he has a familiar target to throw to not named TO….
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No way Philly trades D Jack.
The 2nd Round pick and T Howard for McNabb and the Eagles 4th Rounder!
March 25th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
The “pu$$y zone”. lol. Well, I’m not there yet. But I should be swinging by your mom’s later.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
don’t leave your Mom’s basement, you won’t last.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
A lot of NFL players refer to the black hole as “the pu$$y zone”.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
I’m about to go to your mom’s basement, Frequent Dust Smoker.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
I know that Phi is looking for a top 42 pick. Thing is, now that the cat is out of the bag per se, I don’t see them going back. Many league sources (not mine, HaHa) say that McNabb is done in Phi. Kolb is the future in Phi. Had to make a decision and Kolb is young and they’ve invested a lot in him and have to see what he’s got. A lot like GB did with Rodgers. I’ll tell you this, for those in the Raider Fantasy league, I’m taking Kolb high.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
504…that just fking sucks to know that. So Gruden got a gimme SB ring from us. I remember that was the last time the SB was played in 1 week too rather than 2 weeks. (if I recall correctly). Oh well, good info bro.
Hey man, I will be in Nola for the 4th of July for a few days. Waht do you recommend I visit there in terms of restaurant, bars, and historic stuff? I was there once for 2 hours on my way back to Memphis from SF and i thought that Cafe du Monde was a bit overrated.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Sure, the idea of a veteran proven QB in our roster sounds like a good one. For many reasons including the one about mentoring Russell. But unfortunately that won’t happen. McNabb is on the last year of his contract, any team trading for him is going to want to make a long term deal, possibly a 3 year one. The only thing about that, is that McNabb holds all the cards when it comes to making that happen. The smart business man in him will just play out this year in Philly, have an excellent year, unless he gets hurt that is, and then test the free agent market. Where he could get a lot more on his terms from a team he feels like could be a contender to win a SB.
Still a good idea in my opinion though. Not necessarily for McNabb, but to bring in a proven QB. If not, then let’s stick to the plan we had all along, a free for all royal rumble between a gigantic jar-jar binks, a pollock, and a hopeful whitey.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
Yeah it’s true. Most well put together people who are secure in themselves and have no problems make threatening sexual remarks about other peoples mothers.
You are the definitive internet tough guy.
I use to just disagree with everything about you, now I just feel sorry for you.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Raider Fantasy league, I’m taking Kolb high.
############################### michael vick might screw your plans!
March 25th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Good Night Nation.
My cue to shut it down is RMR posts and politics.
Hope the trade goes down.
Later.
March 25th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
Jhill
This is what I am hearing:
RaiderDogg Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Now I am hearing that the Raiders are offering Michael Bush and a 3rd round pick, #69, for Donovan McNabb with the intention of using the 2nd round pick, #39, on Jahvid Best to replace Bush.
Remember, I am just passing along information, I am not saying this is what I want or am I endorsing what is being told to me.
I would hate to see Mike Bush go, he reminds me of Earl Campbell.
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The perfect Mike Bush replacement would be TOBY GERHARDT….not Best!
Gerhardt with DMC would be deadly. Toby is a pounder and he dishes it out….runs low….catches the ball better than people think and would be a better short yardage and goal line back than Bush.
Plus Toby would have non problem playing some FB here and there and blocking or catching passes out of the backfield on screens!
March 25th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
It’s still possible the Eagles would accept a selection outside the top 42 if a team sweetened the offer with other picks and/or players, according to The AP
per nfl.com
3rd 2010, 7th 2010, 3rd 2011
March 25th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
Regardless….there should be no doubt in any of our minds that the Raiders and Eagles are talking trade right now….BIG TIME!
March 25th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
Lol, aig. Still blaming people outside of Al Davis for blowing that chance to win a SB? When are you going to grow up and face facts?
March 25th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
Gerhardt, Best, Spiller would all be fine options, if we upgrade the Oline in some way.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
Mr. if you ahvent already notice, I put an ignore button on you and rackoflambs….but keeping on trying though.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
MENTORING RUSSELL!!! HA ha ha. Another comedian. Try a stage, EMRaider. When are you guys just going to give up on this whole bringing in black guys to discipline Russell thing?
March 25th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
which was a bigger screw up first pick j.russell or the tuck rule
March 25th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Frequent Heroin Shooter, you playing judge as to who “put together” might be the funniest thing I’ve ever seen in here. like a bum telling someone to get a job.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
lol at someone who calls themselves Real MaddenRaider when he wasn’t even a Raider fan when Madden was coaching, if even born yet, and really isn’t a Raider fan.
Talk about a screwed up self impression.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Raider fans have been burned by so-called rookie hopefuls…Michael Bush is the guy for Oakland. Let’s not create more uncertainty than there already is. plus he’s inexpensive right now…and be rest assured he’s going to want to earn that big contract.
We can get Mcnabb with a combo of picks…
plus the Eagles are set at RB…and the rest of the roster is unappealing.
Let’s get mcnabb in here…he will get over it. and let’s get real QB play for the 1st time in a long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, time
March 25th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
I would be down with Gerhardt for sure. Word around is that the Raiders i.e. Al Davis is really high on Best. That “Raider speed” comment wasn’t too far off.
Personaly I think Best would be just another McFadden in terms of style. I like the old Tyrone Wheatley/Napoleon Kaufman 1 2 punch business model as opposed to 2 speed burners sharing time…
March 25th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
I’m not too concerned with Vick. He’s not ready to be a full time QB. Spot duty at best.
I can see us moving back from 8 with some team that wants spiller or dan williams since Buffalo could use either.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
I would offer a 3rd rounder, one of the two 5th rounders and either Nnamdi or T Howard for McNabb and next years 2nd Rounder even!
Then TRADE the f**k down from the #8 spot and get more damn picks this year!
March 25th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
504, your cue to leave is when you get caught in a lie. That was a fascinating fairy tale you made up about Gruden and Barlow. Come tomorrow with some more whoppers.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
You also put an ignore button of what’s left of your common sense, AIG.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
We don’t need another running back…Best, Gerhard or otherwise. Bush and DMAC will be good enough.
What we need is a QB, DT, RT and RG.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
I would hate to see Aso go. He is a homegrown badazz, and it always hurts to let them go. I almost hope this doesn’t happen, eventhough I know that it will translate to more wins if it does happen. However, I sorta have a bad feeling that Assante Samuel may turn out to be a lot like DeAngelo Hall in our D. We need tall, tough, outstanding, almost unfindable CBs for our D to be effective. Samuel is a little guy, though, he is pretty damn good. But,all in all, I think trading Aso is a bad idea. If we are stuck with running this stupid old fashion D, then we should at least give ourselves a chance by keeping one of the only players in the league who can do it effectively.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Frequent Crank User, I wasn’t a Raider fan when Madden was coach here? How do you figure?
March 25th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Read my post again RMR. I said the idea of bringing in a PROVEN QB is a good one. I think everybody would agree with that. Not only to mentor Russell, but because we have nothing close to it in the position. Plus I never said anything about the black QB or anything remotely close to that. That’s all you man.
It seems like you have claimed this blog as your stage for your opinions only. And you seem to think that it’s not big enough for anybody else’s. So why don’t you just type back and forth amongst yourself, you might have more fun that way.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
The one draft pick Al gets right, pretty much ever. And he’s thinking about getting rid of him.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
RMR…I have to call the police…you are making threatening sexual remarks about my mother.
Don’t bother to thank me everyone, it’s my civic duty, I have to do it.
Don’t worry, I won’t be embarrassed tomorrow when everybody is laughing at me, afterall, RMR wasn’t when he felt threatened by the “talk”.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
EMRaider, I can’t take you seriously as long as you’re bringing up even a remote possibility of McNabb mentoring Russell. I can’t even type that without laughing.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
SnB,
I dont get why we keep wanting to trade Bush either. All he does is break a few long runs when he gets a chance.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
LOL. Call the police for what, tough guy? To tell them you’re getting schooled on a Raider blog, again?
March 25th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
I would be down with Gerhardt for sure. Word around is that the Raiders i.e. Al Davis is really high on Best. That “Raider speed” comment wasn’t too far off.
Personaly I think Best would be just another McFadden in terms of style. I like the old Tyrone Wheatley/Napoleon Kaufman 1 2 punch business model as opposed to 2 speed burners sharing time…
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Exactly! No point in picking a back like Best with the same skill set as DMC. Gerhardt would be a better pick in Round 2.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Frequent Crank User, I wasn’t a Raider fan when Madden was coach here? How do you figure?
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because you come off as an inexperienced, immature, young person, who doesn’t have much in the way of life experiences.
Plus you have no understanding or appreciation for the Raiders outside of your man-crush for John Gruden who had a couple year run of good fortune who folded like a cheap suitcase after the tuck-rule call.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
we need a kick returner are qbs would look better if they did not have to start on our own 20 yd line
March 25th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Frequent Ice Smoker,
You calling anyone inexperienced, immature, or young is like John Herrera calling himself a leader.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
LOL. Call the police for what, tough guy? To tell them you’re getting schooled on a Raider blog, again?
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I’m not really sure…enlighten me smart guy on when it is appropriate to call the police when you are on a blog. You’re the frickin expert.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Jahvid Best or Gerhardt over an O-Lneman or big NT would be a TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE decision.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Frequent Meth Inhaler, if you don’t stop your drug use, you’ll look like this one day:
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/123234/AL-DAVIS.jpg
March 25th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
You brought up calling the police, not me. Ask yourself when it’s appropriate. Because all that’s happening to you right now is that you’re just getting mangled in an argument. Last I checked, there’s nothing the police can do for you there.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
DKnight007
I thought Bush and McFadden could give us a combo similar to Means and Harmon myself.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
EMRaiders Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Sure, the idea of a veteran proven QB in our roster sounds like a good one. For many reasons including the one about mentoring Russell.
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I didn’t say that was the only reason why, just one of many. Do you not agree that with a proven veteran QB that has had success in this league more than once, Russell might just learn a thing or two about what it takes to be a QB in this league? Not necessarily being McNabb, but any good proven QB.
Anybody else out there agrees with this???
March 25th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
Aig,
I just posted alot of stuff for you and it didn’t go through. My Laptop is killing me. I will try again. Give me a minute.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
EMRaider, like I said, for you to even remotely bring up the idea of McNabb mentoring Russell just kills your credibility, unless of course you’re just trying to be funny.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
504, you have to disable the anti-lie feature on your os.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
You brought up calling the police, not me. Ask yourself when it’s appropriate. Because all that’s happening to you right now is that you’re just getting mangled in an argument. Last I checked, there’s nothing the police can do for you there.
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You would know because they probably told you, last time you checked. Was that last week?
Ha Ha Ha….loser. I mean “self-proclaimed internet mangler” what a joke you are.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
What Frequent Dog Food Shooter is going to look like in about 5 years:
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/123234/AL-DAVIS.jpg
March 25th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Ok, can you tell me why that is?
March 25th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
# Random Drug Tester Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
DKnight007
I thought Bush and McFadden could give us a combo similar to Means and Harmon myself.
^^^^^^^^
They will as soon as we get a competent OC who will use them correctly to call plays and add more POWER to the RG, RT, and Center positions.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
I wouldn’t know, Frequent Dust Smoker. I’ve never called the police because I was losing an argument on a blog. That’s your forte, buddy.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
EMRaider, let me ask you, why do you think McNabb could mentor Russell? Give me a rundown of what their conversation would be like. This should be like reading a national lampoon script.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Raiderbeat.com says someone from the Raider organization said they are mulling a deal to bring in McNabb and T.O — for what its worth
http://raiderbeat.com/?p=6981
March 25th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
I hope to god they do bring T.O. here. Having a mouthpiece like that to dish out the dirt on Al? Gannon and Sapp on steroids!
March 25th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Jahvid Best or Gerhardt over an O-Lneman or big NT would be a TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE decision.
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Bruce Campbell will be selected in round 1 and the rb scenario is all based on Bush being traded with the 3rd round pick to the Eagles for McNabb.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Jahvid Best or Gerhardt over an O-Lneman or big NT would be a TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE decision.
^^^^^^^^
Not if you TRADE DOWN from the 8th spot and get an extra 2nd or 3rd Rounder.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
McNabb = Mentor b/c why else would he seek out Russell before the game? B/c he wanted to part some wisdom on the kid.
Not saying he’s going to spend all his time teaching Russell the position but he can lead by example and Russell can see what it takes from an established veteran. Not saying that I completely agree, just saying for the sake of argument.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
get your popcorn ready!
March 25th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
IMO – no way both TO and McNabb are brought in together. One or the other, but not both.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Laughing at RMR denying he called the police to report inappropriate and threatening behaviour on a blog.
Trying to distance yourself from yet another immature and self-ridiculing move on your part are you Internet clown?
You are an endless source of amusement, and yet at the same time a study in pitying behaviour.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Raiderbeat.com says someone from the Raider organization said they are mulling a deal to bring in McNabb and T.O — for what its worth
http://raiderbeat.com/?p=6981
^^^^^^^^
Thats what I heard…is that if they get McNabb….the Raiders will then sign TO!
McNabb is gonna have to want to come here though. If he tells old man Al he doesn’t want to come here and sign a 3 year extension…..then the deal for McNabb won’t happen.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
McNabb to T.O —- LOL ONly Al Davis
March 25th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
you’ve got that right, fat kidd. By our 3rd loss, it’s going to be the T.O. show, and Al Davis is going to be the topic. That will be by week 3 or 4, btw.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
Wait, I asked you first. Do you know what they say about people that answer a question with another question?
I know, I see the irony in my response, because I am responding with a question, but only because you did it first.
And for the record, I do think I’m pretty funny. Maybe not always, but most of the time.
So tell me, pretty please, why is it that you think that wouldn’t work?
Oh, and you never responded to my first question, do you agree or not, that bringing in ANY PROVEN QB would help with Russell’s development?
March 25th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Yes, you asked me first. And I think I’ve been answering that question repeatedly with my mockery of the idea. Do I need a reason why? I simply don’t think anyone is capable of “mentoring” JaMarcus Russell, especially not Donovan McNabb. I don’t know why. But I’d love to hear your reason as to why you think he can, because I think it might be the funniest thing I’m ever going to read on here.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
http://cdn.bleacherreport.com/images_root/image_pictures/0735/1376/144199_feature.jpg
March 25th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
RMR’s only answer will be a question…what is the police’s phone number? I’m feeling threatened and will call them as my civic duty to everybody here, don’t thank me.
Don’t worry RMR, we won’t.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
looking forward to it 504.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
http://cdn.bleacherreport.com/images_root/image_pictures/0735/1376/144199_feature.jpg
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Hahahaha…..is Juggs Russell drunk there too! LOL
March 25th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
I simply don’t think anyone is capable of “mentoring” JaMarcus Russell, especially not Donovan McNabb.
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Pardon me, but I read posts of yours stating that Jamarcus Russell was only viewed as a bust because he was in Oakland.
Changing your tune? again?
March 25th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
DKnight007 Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
http://cdn.bleacherreport.com/images_root/image_pictures/0735/1376/144199_feature.jpg
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Hahahaha…..is Juggs Russell drunk there too! LOL
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lmao…That’s what I was thinking. That looks like a couple of homies helping their buddy out after a long night drinking. Russell is whispering to Vick “Thanks for the sizzurb”
March 25th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
why are you calling him juggs russell ,does he have man boobs
March 25th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
Thank you. Now here’s mine.
For beginners, McNabb could show Russell how to prepare for games. How to handle the media and the up and downs of winning and losing. That is if Russell ever sees the winning side. Just a few reasons, just as vague as your response.
But since you already said you don’t think anybody is capable of mentoring Russell, and you don’t know why, you won’t agree with this response either. I guess we’ll just end this discussion now?
March 25th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
Frequent Tweeker,
You’re the only one talking about the cops.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
who will teach russell not to fumble and protect the ball, i think thats his biggest problem
March 25th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
RMR…do I really have to go back and pull up your posts.
You really want that?
March 25th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
Frequent Freebaser, I said we have to get Russell on a real team before we know for certain he’s a bust. Don’t put words into my mouth.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Pull up any post of mine you want, Frequent Pickle Licker, and I’ll just keep clowning your current ones.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
I’m talking about YOU calling the cops, and now denying it.
Once again, are you denying it, or do I have to pull up the posts.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
R1: D. Williams, Shore up the middle of the DL RUNSTOP!
R2: B. Spikes, Fiery MLB, probably 5x better than Kirk.
R3: I would begin drafting the best O linemen left on the board at this point. Either a Guard or a Tackle, depending on the value of the pick.
R4: If I took an OT in R3, then I take an OG here, and vise versa. (For the record I think that Al will draft J. ‘Fastest 40 time’ Ford at either 3 or 4)
R5: J. Skelton, JR is an absolute bust, Al can try for his monster QB with the monster arm again here, except Skelton has intelligence and heart to go along with his natural ability. He is compared heavily to Flacco, but said to be more developed than Falcco was at that stage. Let’s see if Hue can do it again!
R6: N/A
R7: If that dude who boffed his sister is still available, I guess we could look at him, but it’s gonna be kinda wierd for that guy no matter where he goes. We actually have 2 7ths, so I will just leave it up to Al to try and find a diamond in the rough here. That is something that the old man is surprisingly good at from time to time.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
only a clown can clown…are you denying calling the cops for what was being said here?
March 25th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Random Pickle Licker, I’m not the one talking about calling the cops. YOU are.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
nice try tap-dancer.
I’m talking about you calling the cops…you did it.
True of False?
March 25th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
be a man…stand by for actions.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
for = your
March 25th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
C’mon, you’ve insulted everyone who has posted anything about a relevant topic to Raider fan’s.
Acting all superior in opinion and intellect, when the truth is you get scared and call the cops.
Now ‘fess up, or I will repost you cowardly ways.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Or leave us alone.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Aig,
It keeps saying duplicate comment but still not showing up on here. I will try tomorrow.
Later.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Why do you care if I called the cops?
March 25th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
Liar, I have not insulted everyone. But you are one of the people I’ve insulted, because you deserve it.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
504 – thanks for trying man.
on another note, i was browsing walterfootball and man they really hate the Raiders. It’s kinda comical.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
punk you’re the one talking to me. you leave me alone.
March 25th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
Anyone think Al will put together a solid draft, or are you all expecting another mind blowing, head scratching, heart breaking, back stabbing, hope killing, dream shattering fiasco? I’m severely hoping for the former, but expecting, and dreading the ladder.
God help this hapless nation!
March 25th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
The latest reports I’m getting are that the Raiders are the frontrunners. ProFootballTalk is saying the same thing. The Jaguars remain interested, but it seems as if the Raiders are being more aggressive with their offer. I don’t have any firm details, but the 8th overall pick in the 2010 draft is being talked about. Jacksonville may try to come up with a counter-offer, but it doesn’t seem like they want to get into a bidding war.
The Buffalo Bills were the primary focus in yesterday’s talks. I don’t know what is happening with them. Maybe McNabb refused to sign an extension. Maybe the Bills and Eagles couldn’t agree on compensation. I don’t have good info on this angle right now. Don’t count Buffalo out, but they are no longer in the lead.
As for Donovan going to the Raiders…this move makes some sense when you think about it. They have a pair of talented RBs in Darren McFadden and Michael Bush. They have a good TE in Zach Miller. They have 3 talented young WRs – Chaz Schilens, Louis Murphy, and Darrius Heyward-Bey. DHB could turn out to be a Sidney Rice type player with McNabb throwing him the ball instead of Bruce Gradkowski or JaMarcus Russell.
Also, wearing the Silver and Black doesn’t mean much to younger people, but those of us who watched football in the 70s and 80s loved the Raiders. They won games, played a wild brand of football, and were a lot of fun to watch. Being a Raider still means something to people over the age of 30. Since 2003 the organization has fallen on hard times. Adding a Pro Bowl QB might be a great way to change that.
I think McNabb might be more open to going to Oakland than many people think. It would give him a great opportunity to prove how good he can be. Kurt Warner solidified himself as a Hall of Fame player by leading the Cardinals to consecutive division titles and the Super Bowl. McNabb could do a similar thing if he could restore the Raiders to glory.
Stay tuned.
http://eaglesblitz.blogspot.com/2010/03/oakland-in-lead.html
March 25th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
# fat kidd Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
why are you calling him juggs russell ,does he have man boobs
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Cause he has man boob like Juggs cause he is fat!
March 25th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
you guys are retarded.did you watch how crapy mcnabb played in the playoff game he sucked he looked like russel standing there too long with the ball.He cant run anymore.we dont need another fat slow qb.We tryed that with culpepper look what happened.mcnabb sucks and chokes every year.
March 25th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
# Hot Shot Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
you guys are retarded.did you watch how crapy mcnabb played in the playoff game he sucked he looked like russel standing there too long with the ball.He cant run anymore.we dont need another fat slow qb.We tryed that with culpepper look what happened.mcnabb sucks and chokes every year.
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Your the retard….this franchise and team is going nowhere without a LEGIT QB!
March 25th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
And a legit owner, and a legit coaching staff, and a legit offensive line, and a legit defense. Stop pretending we’re just a QB away, DKnight. You have to be on crack to believe that.
March 25th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
The latest reports I’m getting are that the Raiders are the frontrunners. ProFootballTalk is saying the same thing. The Jaguars remain interested, but it seems as if the Raiders are being more aggressive with their offer. I don’t have any firm details, but the 8th overall pick in the 2010 draft is being talked about. Jacksonville may try to come up with a counter-offer, but it doesn’t seem like they want to get into a bidding war.
The Buffalo Bills were the primary focus in yesterday’s talks. I don’t know what is happening with them. Maybe McNabb refused to sign an extension. Maybe the Bills and Eagles couldn’t agree on compensation. I don’t have good info on this angle right now. Don’t count Buffalo out, but they are no longer in the lead.
As for Donovan going to the Raiders…this move makes some sense when you think about it. They have a pair of talented RBs in Darren McFadden and Michael Bush. They have a good TE in Zach Miller. They have 3 talented young WRs – Chaz Schilens, Louis Murphy, and Darrius Heyward-Bey. DHB could turn out to be a Sidney Rice type player with McNabb throwing him the ball instead of Bruce Gradkowski or JaMarcus Russell.
Also, wearing the Silver and Black doesn’t mean much to younger people, but those of us who watched football in the 70s and 80s loved the Raiders. They won games, played a wild brand of football, and were a lot of fun to watch. Being a Raider still means something to people over the age of 30. Since 2003 the organization has fallen on hard times. Adding a Pro Bowl QB might be a great way to change that.
I think McNabb might be more open to going to Oakland than many people think. It would give him a great opportunity to prove how good he can be. Kurt Warner solidified himself as a Hall of Fame player by leading the Cardinals to consecutive division titles and the Super Bowl. McNabb could do a similar thing if he could restore the Raiders to glory.
Stay tuned.
http://eaglesblitz.blogspot.com/2010/03/oakland-in-lead.html
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I heard that the old man Al wants to make sure McNabb will want to come here and sign a 3 year extension.
I heard that the old man wants to show McNabb that they will build the offense around him and that O-Line and D-Line will be priority and they want to know how he would feel if they signed TO if they were to trade for him.
The old man Al wants to feel that McNabb would want to come here though…..if McNabb doesn’t want to come here, there will be no deal of course.
March 25th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
And a legit owner, and a legit coaching staff, and a legit offensive line, and a legit defense. Stop pretending we’re just a QB away, DKnight. You have to be on crack to believe that.
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Not just a QB away….but it sure as hell is a start.
Like I said many times before….teams need a GOOD QB to have a chance in the NFL followed by a solid O-Line and D-Line.
If the Raiders are serious about trying to turn it around and trying to be respectable again in this league….it STARTS at the QB position.
March 25th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
Hey Fellas,mods,where is the Real MaddenRaider? These imposters are JUNK,grade school posts with morons as friends, as one may say,PUNKS! So,all you sfb’s posting here,GTH,got it! Raiders!!!!!!!
March 25th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
I don’t think McNabb being unhappy about the trade would prevent Al from making the deal.
Being unhappy is part of being a Raider.
” Just win baby.”
March 25th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
And McNabb is a LEGIT top 10 QB in the NFL….and IS better than Grads, Juggs, and Frye combined!
With a legit running game behind him…McNabb wouldn’t need to throw 45 times a game either, which means he will not need to carry the whole offense on his shoulders….at least hopefully.
March 25th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
If McNabb doesn’t have to play against Dallas, Washington and the Giants six times a year, his numbers should get better.
But then again, he will be throwing to DHB.
Call it a push.
March 25th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
DKnight, it’s not even a start. Until we have management serious about building a team from the nucleus, we can sign Manning and Brady, wont’ mean a thing. Will only be a start to more of the same.
March 25th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
Being unhappy is part of being a Raider, not part of McNabb’s plans for life. He’s retiring as soon as this trade’s made, guaranteed.
March 25th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
RealMaddenRaider,
I am keenly aware of the decision making issues with Al Davis. I know that the decisions have been terrible. I have no delusions about where the team is and the ownership/decision making.
But as Dknight said, a good QB is a start…and is a hell of a lot better alternative than a gym-rat and a 1st round bust more interested in partying
If your disapproval of Davis is so strong that you dismiss any move…what’s the point in continuing to follow the team…or at least until Davis is no longer the owner.
March 25th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
Nobody’s numbers get better in Oakland.
March 25th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
It is not a start. The only start is Al Davis leaving. Al being gone is a precursor to any kind of progress here. HE is not the same man he was when Gruden was here. He has lost it. There is no start until he’s gone. It’s not about Al having made mistakes in the past, it’s about him being a cancer to any remote chance of improvement.
March 25th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
I have a feeling that Al will make the trade but now that it is rumored Philly wants a pick in the top 42. Al is probly trying to give Philly a lower pick.I don’t think he has to trade Nnamdi to make this happen.
March 25th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
The question is, Alameda, will Mcnabb even show up? Trade’s not official till he reports. I’m guessing he retires. Between retiring and coming to Oakland? easy choice.
March 25th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
I heard that the old man wants to show McNabb that they will build the offense around him and that O-Line and D-Line will be priority and they want to know how he would feel if they signed TO if they were to trade for him.
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DNight, this makes a lot of sense. But here’s what pisses me off. We drafted a QB no. 1 overall in 2007. Wouldn’t it have made sense to make the OL and DL a priority and build the offense around JR? The mess he got thrown into last year is a joke. Why does it take scrapping JR’s development and signing McNabb to do what should have been done the last two years? Makes no sense to me.
March 25th, 2010 at 11:53 pm
lol @ y ou guys trying to make sense of rumors you started.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:00 am
Mcnabb won’t retire.He is borderline HOF and if he comes to Oakland and leads them to the playoffs in the next 2 years he proably gets in the HOF.Also Al has lots of faults as an Owner/GM but he does pay his players and McNabb is looking for that last contract.When the Raiders traded for Seymour there were the same rumours abot retiring or not showing up.Bottome line McNabb is a football player and I think he will play as long as possible. I also think he after not being wanted and liked in Philly wherever he ends up he goes with something to prove.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:12 am
Going to Oakland is going to HELP his chances of getting into the hall? HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 26th, 2010 at 12:14 am
Raiderdebo,
Al Davis didn’t even bother to draft an O-Lineman last year. point well taken about leaving Russell to the wild.
But we know with Davis we are going to get a bunch of bad decisions….been like that for 25 years.
I just want to have a reason to watch next year. i could care less about whether a multi- multi millionaire isn’t happy about playing here or if Al Davis is throwing away more of his money.
I just want a reason to get interested in the 1st few games of the season. With McNabb there is a shot at something good
With the gym-rat and JaDavis….we are certain on how that will end
March 26th, 2010 at 12:15 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
The question is, Alameda, will Mcnabb even show up?
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Dude, you were saying over an over that Seymour was not going to show up and everyone but you was going to look stupid. YOU look stupid. Do everyone a favor and STFU. Seriously. STFU.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:21 am
And, Seymour, it took Seymour a week to show up. And, honestly, when it comes to him “shoring up the run defense”, let’s face it, he’s still yet to show up. I think Seymour’s agent convinced him to just suck it up and go through the motions. I can not picture McNabb wanting to come here. For what? Since 2003, players come here to die. period.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:25 am
Dude, Seymour showed up. For the lst game. He had two sacks in that game. He played the whole season. McNabb is a .520 QB. Westbrook is a .650 RB. What’s you point? No one will come here? We’ve heard THAT for 10 years too.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:26 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 12:14 am
Raiderdebo,
Al Davis didn’t even bother to draft an O-Lineman last year. point well taken about leaving Russell to the wild.
But we know with Davis we are going to get a bunch of bad decisions….been like that for 25 years.
I just want to have a reason to watch next year. i could care less about whether a multi- multi millionaire isn’t happy about playing here or if Al Davis is throwing away more of his money.
I just want a reason to get interested in the 1st few games of the season. With McNabb there is a shot at something good
With the gym-rat and JaDavis….we are certain on how that will end
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I hear ya. If JR has to sit, I can live with it being McNabb. Can’t bear to think of us starting the season with Grads. I almost didn’t watch the Thanksgiving game because I knew he was out of his league. But it’s too early to pull the plug on JR. It’d be one thing if he was a jerk and hadn’t shown anything like Leaf. But JR has shown promise, even if it’s been short-lived. The guy has pulled out games for us when it looked like we were sunk. The guy’s talent is undeniable. He deserves another chance.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:26 am
Real Maddenraider,
Your position appears to be that its completely hopeless with Davis at the helm. I don’t think he’s helpful, but the team has to try.
I don’t understand why you follow the team? Might as well wait until Davis is no longer the owner?
March 26th, 2010 at 12:29 am
Yeh, that’s right. I forgot Seymour played one good game. Coincidentally, a nationally televised game.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:30 am
You don’t think Al’s “helpful”. lol. Al is a cancer. Period.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:31 am
Real Maddenraider,
Davis is not going anywhere though.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:32 am
And that’s why the Raiders are going to suck.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:33 am
We have what we have.
If you are at rock bottom then you really can’t make any more worse decisions.
i say give McNabb a shot. Maybe McNabb refuses to show or throws a fit…so be it….its not my money and I don’t own the team.
If it doesn’t work…then its year 9 of losing….
What’s the big deal?
March 26th, 2010 at 12:35 am
Yes, we have Al Davis, and that’s why we’re going to suck. Nothing good can happen with Al involved. NOTHING. Except maybe a good game by Seymour if it’s nationally televised. 7 years running, 11 or more losses. No team has ever done this. You’re in denial.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:37 am
i am not in denial. I know what we have. But i guess I don’t share your ABSOLUTE sense of hopelessness towards the Raiders.
So why do you bother following a team that you think has absolutely no chance of winning?
March 26th, 2010 at 12:38 am
Yes, you are in denial. You summed up Al’s presence as merely being “not helpful”, as if he’s not a complete detriment to any kind of progress whatsoever.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:44 am
I’d much prefer the Raiders gave Philly a handful of picks insetad of dealing a proven commodity like Nnamdi.
A second round pick in the hands of Al will only bring fifth round talent anyways.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:51 am
Northern D,
I agree. I would rather keep Nnamdi as well. I think the deal might shape up where the Raiders send a 2nd and maybe swap 1st round picks.
That would work for me
March 26th, 2010 at 12:53 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 12:30 am
You don’t think Al’s “helpful”. lol. Al is a cancer. Period.
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We have gone over this a dozen times. The reason the Raiders have sucked ass for seven straight years is because your “boy friend” Jon Gruden FAILED to develop ANYONE during the time he was here. He developed no one, brought a bunch of aged vets in, and the roster had nothing when those vets were done a year or so later. That’s why the Raiders have sucked, and that’s why Gruden doesn’t have a job. Davis has taken the franchise back over. And he has drafted guys like Gallery, Miller, Schillens, Henderson, Kelly, Trev Scott, Nnamdi, Branch, Mitchell over the last few years. His first rounders recently have not done well, but a lot of fans were ready to ship out guys like Mario Williams, Vernon Davis, Eli Manning, Reggie Bush, D’Brickashaw Ferguson, Manny Lawson, Ginn Jr, Amobi Okoye, Marshwan Lynch, Brady Quinn, Dwayne Bowe……………
March 26th, 2010 at 12:59 am
You’ll be blaming Gruden after Al sucks it up for another 7 years. You’re pathetic. Al Davis is only the top person in charge, yet kool aid drinking muppets like you hold him accountable for absolutely nothing. You’re the reason why everyone makes fun of Raider fans.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:01 am
This report is so false!!1 why would the eagles want Nmandi when they can have Routt
March 26th, 2010 at 1:05 am
LOL..Al Davis is like Junior Soprano has no freaking idea what’s going on. nmandi alone should bring a 1st round pick. Old qb that will get knocked out with our wack ass Oline. then what do we have left?
March 26th, 2010 at 1:07 am
SnB,
Bringing in McNabb might also be the fastest way to boost ticket sales. (other than winning of course, but good luck with that)
March 26th, 2010 at 1:07 am
Junior Soprano is actually a kind comparison.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:07 am
talk about DESPERATION move..This has Amy Trask written all over it
March 26th, 2010 at 1:09 am
SharkCatcher Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 1:05 am
LOL..Al Davis is like Junior Soprano has no freaking idea what’s going on. nmandi alone should bring a 1st round pick. Old qb that will get knocked out with our wack ass Oline. then what do we have left?
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What we have now. Nnamdi Asomugha has 1 year left on his contract too. Plus he’s paid like a top 5 QB…team still loses.
I see no harm in trying to get a real QB. Haven’t had one in years…and the Gym_Rat is no QB and JaDavis doesn’t seem to be able to find himself
March 26th, 2010 at 1:10 am
We are at rock bottom now….this move actually makes sense and they can get McNabb without losing Asomugha.
And I don’t think Philly is going to want to make a CB the highest paid player on their team…just a guess
March 26th, 2010 at 1:10 am
trade Piazza …trade babe ruth ..trade shaq..trade kobe for Vlade ..gretzki to kings..This will go down as one of the worst trade in sports history.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:12 am
I’m in for our 2nd round and dmac or bush
March 26th, 2010 at 1:12 am
Trask is more like Junior. Davis is more like Junior’s old driver that used to spill food on his shirt. Murph, I think his name was.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:13 am
SharkCatcher,
I think McNabb for our 2nd rounder will be enough. The only thing standing in the way would be if a “contender” places a bid.
minnesota and carolina come to mind
March 26th, 2010 at 1:14 am
Well, he only has his own record to top, with the gruden trade. My god I can’t believe we really have an owner this f’n stupid.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:14 am
al davis son = little Carmine
March 26th, 2010 at 1:14 am
Why is this blog so frickin slow now?
Is it because Corkran is writing articles? Instead of just posting question marks?
On a side note, the Bills GM said they were not interested in a QB in the draft, and they would have the question at QB resolved in a few days.
So we should be getting a decision on McNabb soon.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:15 am
we did get lots of picks, for gruden …just bad drafting ..who did we get weak ass ricky dudley..who else?
March 26th, 2010 at 1:17 am
It’s common knowledge Little Carmine’s a retard.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:17 am
SharkCatcher Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 1:12 am
I’m in for our 2nd round and dmac or bush
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I read that Fargas is basically begging the Eagles to sign him, but they won’t bother.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:18 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 12:59 am
You’ll be blaming Gruden after Al sucks it up for another 7 years. You’re pathetic. Al Davis is only the top person in charge, yet kool aid drinking muppets like you hold him accountable for absolutely nothing. You’re the reason why everyone makes fun of Raider fans.
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Come on dummass, in the absolute DREGS of the Raiders demise, who did we have? Who were the 5,6,7,8 year vets that SHOULD HAVE been there, that weren’t? Who is in Tampon Bay right now? No one. You should know this. But you don’t. There’s a reason. You’re a dummass.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:19 am
You don’t trade the head coach when your team is that good. just took the soul out of the team. Al really thought he could let Gruden’s team ride for a few years. He obviously had no clue how the league works now.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:19 am
Seymour, you calling anyone a dumbass is like Al Davis calling someone a loser.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:19 am
# SharkCatcher Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 1:15 am
we did get lots of picks, for gruden …just bad drafting ..who did we get weak ass ricky dudley..who else?
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Actually, Dudely was Jon Gruden’s very lst draft pick.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:20 am
it’s kinda of Sad because we all know damn well fargas is a great #2 back. ( unless his knee is really shot)
March 26th, 2010 at 1:21 am
Dudley was drafted in ‘96, Seymour, long before Gruden was here. Go ahead. Call someone a dumbass again.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:21 am
Real MaddenRaider, he has three world championship trophies. Where did he get those? At a garage sale in Pittsburgh? Oh, right, everyone BUT HIM was credited for the wins, and he ONLY gets credit for the losses. Right. I forgot.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:21 am
Im not a historian that’s why I asked
March 26th, 2010 at 1:22 am
Here’s what they got for Gruden…
http://www.sbreport.net/the-raiders-research-project/raiders-trades
March 26th, 2010 at 1:23 am
it’s basically Al davis loyalist vs the al davis haters up in here huh?
March 26th, 2010 at 1:23 am
Rickey Dudley couldn’t catch an STD if he went bareback on Paris Hilton.
March 26th, 2010 at 3:34 am
Seymour, how many Super Bowls has Al won without Ron Wolf?
March 26th, 2010 at 3:34 am
thanks for the link…how many pro bowl players did we miss out on.
March 26th, 2010 at 3:34 am
Im supposed to trust in a guy that doesnt even wear a belt.. look at 38 seconds into the video
March 26th, 2010 at 3:34 am
thanks for the link…how many pro bowl players did we miss out on.
March 26th, 2010 at 3:34 am
So the list of the draft invitees is out.
Jared Odrick, DT, Penn State made the list.
Hey Jared, make sure the NFL books you in for two nights.
March 26th, 2010 at 3:34 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 1:21 am
Dudley was drafted in ‘96, Seymour, long before Gruden was here. Go ahead. Call someone a dumbass again.
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Sorry, I was making a joke. What I meant to say was Gruden was the one who signed Dudley in 2002 to Tampon Bay’s roster. When everyone KNEW he couldn’t play the game.
March 26th, 2010 at 3:34 am
I say trade our 2nd, 3rd and Routt for Mcnabb and Samuel..
Then I think Eric berry is selected at # 8…
We now have Aso, Asante, Branch, Berry…
That’s fierce..
Pick up Westbrook and Owens…
The rest of the draft take OL and DT’s….
This sounds all too familiar! The raiders have had success in the past with veterans.
Adding those 3 Vets to the roster does not make us any worse than what we have been for almost a decade.
Out.
March 26th, 2010 at 3:34 am
I say trade our 2nd, 3rd and Routt for Mcnabb and Samuel..
Then I think Eric berry is selected at # 8…
We now have Aso, Asante, Branch, Berry…
That’s fierce..
Pick up Westbrook and Owens…
The rest of the draft take OL and DT’s….
This sounds all too familiar! The raiders have had success in the past with veterans.
Adding those 3 Vets to the roster does not make us any worse than what we have been for almost a decade.
Out.
March 26th, 2010 at 5:12 am
All these rumors make me laugh. I swear half of them are made up just so people can report something happening in oakland.
Seriously, what was the last rumor that actually came true?
March 26th, 2010 at 5:16 am
I hear what you are saying Madden, but everything is pointing toward this happening. There are a lot of different formulas that can work out for both teams in the end. The Raiders desperately need a real QB. McNabb can be the mentor for Russell that Culpepper was suppose to be. Just look at Vince Young and others that took a while to develop.
March 26th, 2010 at 5:37 am
Wouldn’t mind the trade at all, actually…
March 26th, 2010 at 5:43 am
How is everything pointing towards this? We have 2-3 potential options for QB right now, Asomugha was one of Davis correct reaches so hes going to be slow to trade him.
Everything was pointing towards cable getting fired too, and Seymour refusing to come to Oakland. How did those pan out?
March 26th, 2010 at 5:44 am
It just keeps getting better and better!!!
Good Morning Nation!!!
Asomugha for McNabb and Samuel? What does that say about the latter two? (On a flip note, what does that say about Nnamdi?)
March 26th, 2010 at 6:03 am
LUBBOCK, Texas (AP) Former NFL quarterback Ryan Leaf has agreed to plead guilty in his Texas drug and burglary case in exchange for 10 years of probation, attorneys in the case said Thursday.
Leaf’s attorney, Bill Kelly, said his client has agreed to plead guilty to seven counts of obtaining a controlled substance by fraud and one count of delivery of a simulated controlled substance. Leaf would be on probation for 10 years and a burglary charge would be dropped.
A judge must approve the deal, which includes Leaf paying a $20,000 fine, Kelly said.
Leaf, who is living in Canada, was a star at Washington State but a bust during his four-year NFL career. He coached quarterbacks at West Texas A&M in Canyon, where the indictment was returned last May.
Leaf was accused of presenting an incomplete medical history to several physicians between January 2008 and September 2008 to get or try to obtain the painkiller Hydrocodone. He also allegedly forced his way into a Canyon apartment in October 2008 and stole Hydrocodone that had been prescribed to an injured football player.
Randall County District Attorney James Farren said he decided to drop the burglary charge after receiving a letter from the victim, a player Leaf coached at West Texas A&M, about three weeks ago.
“He’s not happy about being a key factor in a criminal prosecution of his former coach,” Farren said. “I suspect that he and most of the young men Ryan Leaf worked with … want him to get some counseling and help. They care about him.”
It was important to get the burglary charge dropped in the deal, Kelly said.
“It would have a very negative impact and might keep Ryan from going back to Canada because of the laws that are applicable in Canada,” he said. “We need to get this behind him and get him on his way.”
Farren said a “pattern” of abusing prescription drugs will lead him to include counseling and drug testing in probation terms he’ll recommend to the judge.
If the deal is approved and Leaf successfully completes his probation there will be no convictions on his record; a record of his arrest would remain. If Leaf fails to meet the terms of his probation, he could face jail time, Farren said.
“If I were Mr. Leaf I’d want to make sure I can do this, that I can successfully complete this,” he said. “He has a lot of exposure. “It could end up being a long time” in prison.
Leaf resigned in November 2008 in the middle of his third season as quarterbacks coach. Kelly said Leaf is “doing OK” and believes he is selling vacation packages to corporate clients at a resort.
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trade the walrus for Ryan Leaf!
March 26th, 2010 at 6:07 am
scratch Asante Samuel from the trade.
give us a 2nd rounder this year or a 1st rounder next year plus McNabb for Nnamdi Asomugha
disgruntled Sheldon Brown & overrated Asante Samuel are not our problems, nor should they be.
Samuel = zone corner who always jumps in hoping for a pick and often gets burned this way (think DeAngelo Hall 2.0 with better character)
March 26th, 2010 at 6:14 am
Ryan Leaf is selling vacation packages to corporate clients at a resort. 8 years after his NFL career ended (1998-2002)
2 more years and JaMarcus Russell will be out of the NFL too. 10 years from now he’ll be selling vacation packages to corporate clients at a resort. Hopefully he won’t have any drug or burglary charges! (unless Todd Marinovich mentors him at some point)
March 26th, 2010 at 6:14 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 6:07 am
scratch Asante Samuel from the trade.
give us a 2nd rounder this year AND a 1st rounder next year plus McNabb for Nnamdi Asomugha
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This would be ok.
March 26th, 2010 at 6:16 am
maddenraiderfan Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 5:12 am
All these rumors make me laugh. I swear half of them are made up just so people can report something happening in oakland.
Seriously, what was the last rumor that actually came true?
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Seymour to Oakland. Russell was working out in Arizona Ricochet is a morph.
March 26th, 2010 at 6:17 am
All of this sounds like sound and fury amounting to nothing.
If anything, I’d see them sending Routt their way.
March 26th, 2010 at 6:17 am
Haha! I think Russell, if he’s out of the NFL in 2 years, will have or already have owned an In N Out somewhere. Or, opened one in Alabama next to the house he just bought there!
If he is smart with money…I believe that he is set!!! Thanks to Mr. Davis!
March 26th, 2010 at 6:19 am
Q: How big then that Al let you make the QB change last year?
A: Well sure it was. We were 100 yards better a game, we were 7-8 yards better in rushing, we were a touchdown better in scoring. That’s just throwing a guy in the middle of the season. I think for me that shows you if you can get that worked out, what you can potentially be.
Q: Was that proof Al lets you coach and make your own decisions?
A: Oh absolutely. I know this. If that wasn’t true, I would not have been allowed to make the quarterback change. There’s no way based on what’s involved. There’s just no way. He told me “You’re the coach, you decide.”
Q: Bruce Gradkowski?
A: I think your quarterback has to have some of that energy. He did a nice job of that when he was in there but, like JaMarcus and everyone else, he’s got to do better and there’s things specifically he has to improve on to be the quarterback of the Oakland Raiders. I think this will be a great competition.
Q: A true competition, shared snaps and all?
A: It’ll be a full, wide-open competition.
Q: Gradkowski?
A: He is a good fit. He’s healthy, the leg injuries and everything are fine. For him, let’s just see where he can go with it. I think he proved he can play in the NFL. If he’s going to be a starter, can he do it for the long haul? I think his toughness, his leadership, he’ll find a way to make plays, his ability to bring the group together for the same cause.
Q: More on Russell?
A: He’s there working. To me that’s a big plus right now. As we get ready for minicamp and OTAs, he’ll get a chance to compete.
-David White (SF Gate)
March 26th, 2010 at 6:19 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
If anything, I’d see them sending Routt their way.
I think if Jim Johnson was alive still, I could see that happening. To Philly, Aso would be the wise trade choice, if they were to send McNabb to Oakland! My opinion of course…
March 26th, 2010 at 6:23 am
If Asomugha or Routt get traded you can count on Al Davis drafting at least 1 corner in the first 2 rounds and probably another in Round 3 or 4!
March 26th, 2010 at 6:25 am
if the season started today I think Russell would have the same chance beating out Gradkowski as Pears would Barnes at RT …
slim to none.
March 26th, 2010 at 6:26 am
Q: Fullback?
A: Marcel Reece is there and Luke Lawton is there and then we’ll see.
-David White (SF Gate)
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“We’ll see” gives me some reason for hope.
sign Brad Hoover and/or draft John Conner !!!
March 26th, 2010 at 6:27 am
What are these 2-3 options at QB bad,worse and awful so is Fargas really begging for a job I mean who doesn’t want a 30 yr old rb who is slow has horrible vision can’t catch and can’t score get Mcnabb and draft R.Matthews.
March 26th, 2010 at 6:30 am
NMF: draft Ryan Matthews in the Top 10?
Philly wants a 2nd rounder for McNabb and Matthews won’t slip out of the Top 50 picks
and what about McBush?
March 26th, 2010 at 6:33 am
Emotions raw around the nation over this week’s Democrats-only vote to approve the nearly $1 trillion redesign of the health care system …
how do you get the nation out of debt?
SPEND !!!
yippee!
March 26th, 2010 at 6:36 am
President Art Shell II is doing a fantastic job, isn’t he?
March 26th, 2010 at 6:40 am
have any Raider fans funded a “re-sign Sam Williams” billboard on I-880 yet ???
March 26th, 2010 at 6:43 am
I wouldn’t have a problem trading just Bush for McNabb. But anything more is too much. The first half of the 2nd round picks this year are basically first round talent. As I have said before, anyone in the top 45 picks could easily go in the top 15 depending on who a team likes and it would be a perfectly justified pick.
Also, I heard that Spikes is now a projected 5th round pick. What the heck is up with that?
March 26th, 2010 at 6:44 am
Nah not top 10 but you’re right Philly wants that 2rd, just it’s gonna kill me if Chargers get him .
March 26th, 2010 at 6:44 am
Ummm…no…that hasn’t came across my desk for donations yet!!! LOL
March 26th, 2010 at 6:45 am
Todd McShay named OT Anythony Davis & DT Brian Price as players “dropping”. Now mid to late 1st rounders
center Pouncey “on the rise” won’t get past the Steelers at #18. can start Day 1 at center or guard
also safety Earl Thomas, may not get past the Jaguars at #10. Top 15 for sure
March 26th, 2010 at 6:48 am
I heard that Spikes is now a projected 5th round pick. What the heck is up with that?
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Madden: I heard Spikes is a 3rd rounder on NFL Live last night. slow 40 time and he’s not planning on running again before the draft to try and improve it
March 26th, 2010 at 6:49 am
I’m telling you guys. We draft Dan Williams first round and 2nd round one of the tackles like Bruce Campbell will drop to us.
March 26th, 2010 at 6:51 am
I don’t think the Eagles would give up McNabb for Bush when they just got Mike Bell and re-signed Leonard Weaver (who looked like Brandon Jacobs at times last year).
Some team might offer a 3rd for Bush, but he’s worth more than that to us because McFadden isn’t durable enough to be a 16 game starter & every down back. Injuries you can’t prevent. He does need to work on leg strength & ball security this offseason BIG TIME and Bush needs to work on his conditioning!
March 26th, 2010 at 6:53 am
To be honest, I doubt the raiders are even attempting to get McNabb. Seriously whenever there is talk of any big name player being traded or in free agency, the raiders are always in the front running according to these rumors.
Of course Al Davis will never deny this so they are free to make up whatever they want.
March 26th, 2010 at 6:53 am
We draft Dan Williams first round and 2nd round one of the tackles like Bruce Campbell will drop to us.
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Agreed. if not Bruce Campbell, then Charles Brown or Rodger Saffold will be there …
March 26th, 2010 at 6:54 am
Rockstar… re your post #410… the only people whose emotions are raw are the wingnuts, because after attempting to bankrupt the country so nothing like this would be likely to happen, have found themselves in the awkward poosition of having to defend their own hypocrisy. And the majority of the American people aren’t buying it.
Don’t bother responding, because I’m not going to debate you. If you can’t see it, you won’t be able to.
March 26th, 2010 at 6:59 am
ET: why make a statement on here if you’re not looking for a response or debate?
using words like “wingnuts” & “hypocrisy” ???
for the record, I didn’t even write that sentence. here’s the full article for your viewing pleasure
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/03/25/national/w110954D54.DTL
March 26th, 2010 at 7:03 am
how about Donovan McNabb, Stewart Bradley & a 3rd rounder for Nnamdi Asomugha & Kirk Morrison ???
March 26th, 2010 at 7:04 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 6:33 am
Emotions raw around the nation over this week’s Democrats-only vote to approve the nearly $1 trillion redesign of the health care system …
how do you get the nation out of debt?
SPEND !!!
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You do not understand macroeconomics, you hillbilly beancounter. You only pay down the debt when the economy is growing healthily (see Clinton in the 90s when he left Bush no deficit). And to recreate a strong economy in a seriouc recession, the government had to spend to stimulate demand. Nearly every respected economist argued for massive govt. spending a year ago. Quite a few feel the stimulus was too small.
Strange no one here was whining about the debt when Bush was running mega-deficits in a good economy!
March 26th, 2010 at 7:07 am
hillbilly beancounter?
BSJ: I posted the article above. If you don’t agree, send them a nasty letter or whatever YOU PEOPLE do
by the way, like I said yesterday, GWB is a Mason and you guys are supposed to look out for eachother. you’re under oath
March 26th, 2010 at 7:08 am
The bank bailouts and war spending are the two biggest causes of our recent debtload. The unregulated banks destroyed our economy, massively reducing revenue for the feds. If you seriously want to tackle the debt issue, support the new limits on bank specualation that are being debated in congress.
March 26th, 2010 at 7:08 am
Morning Nation happy Friday..
March 26th, 2010 at 7:09 am
Are you not a hillbilly beancounter? I only go by what you self-report…
March 26th, 2010 at 7:09 am
I thought “beancounter” was a whether inocuous euphemism for accountant…
March 26th, 2010 at 7:11 am
Philly has Samuel, Brown & Hobbs at CB. none of those guys would be a good fit in Oakland
Asomugha is WAY better than any of those dudes.
no wonder they are trying to unload a CB and acquire N21 at the same time. there isn’t room for another DB there unless they move one of these guys to safety
go ahead and take Nnamdi out of the trade scenario.
Morrison and a 2nd rounder for McNabb & Bradley.
March 26th, 2010 at 7:15 am
408!
trade the walrus for Terrell Owens & a Ryan Leaf jersey …
March 26th, 2010 at 7:18 am
Trade DMAC for Derrick MASON!
March 26th, 2010 at 7:19 am
Hey Rockstar,
McNabb and T.O on the same team?
Raiderbeat said a Raider offical called them saying they are kicking the idea around.
Davis must have taken a hard look at his current masterpiece of a team.
http://raiderbeat.com/?p=6981
March 26th, 2010 at 7:21 am
I am trading for McNabb…he’s a much better option than “JaDavis and the Gym-Rat”…..sounds like a bad sitcom
March 26th, 2010 at 7:23 am
McNabb and T.O on the same team?
Raiderbeat said a Raider offical called them saying they are kicking the idea around.
Davis must have taken a hard look at his current masterpiece of a team.
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I’m sure everybody on the planet thinks McNabb & Owens would be better than Russell & Walker.
I think they’ve mended that relationship anyways. They’re playing basketball together on some reality show and Owens seems to have matured the past 2-3 years since leaving Philly
March 26th, 2010 at 7:25 am
Morrison and a 2nd rounder for McNabb & Bradley.
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S&B: your thoughts?
March 26th, 2010 at 7:25 am
MY 2010 RAIDERS MOCK DRAFT IF THIS GETS USED …. PLAYOFFS!
8)Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
39)Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
69)Sean Lee, ILB, Penn State
106)Jacoby Ford, KR/PR/WR , Clemson
138)Matthew Tennant, C, Boston College
158)Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, CB, Indiana(PA)
215)Nic Richmond, OT, TCU
251)Armanti Edwards, QB, App State
LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK RAIDER NATION … 1
March 26th, 2010 at 7:28 am
Change Sean Lee to Jamar Chaney (we all know its going to happen) and Armanti Edwards to Ryan Perrilloux and I would be happy.
March 26th, 2010 at 7:29 am
Tennant will be long gone by 138
March 26th, 2010 at 7:31 am
158)Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, CB, Indiana(PA)
I think its funny that this is the same CB I was thinking Al would draft in the late rounds.
March 26th, 2010 at 7:40 am
My Mock goes like this …
1st (NT) Dan Williams
2nd (OT) Campbell or Brown
3rd (C)Tennant
4th (G) Carter, Petrus or Lauvao
5th (MLB) Micah Johnson
5th (FB) John Conner
7th who cares?
7th who cares?
if we trade a 2nd rounder for McNabb …
1st (NT) Dan Williams
3rd (C) Matthew Tennant
4th (T) Calloway or Fox
5th (MLB) Micah Johnson
5th (FB) John Conner
and get a few guards in free agency.
Bobbie Williams, Randy Thomas, Shawn Andrews, Ben Hamilton are available. Or we could always re-sign Langston Walker?
March 26th, 2010 at 7:42 am
Tennant will be long gone by 138
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yeah. we’d be lucky to get Matt Tennant if we traded down (69 to 75 or something) and still landed him in Round 3!
Round 5 = steal of the draft
March 26th, 2010 at 7:44 am
I can not see this happening for three Al Davis reasons and lastly a common sense reason:
1) Al Davis loves his corner backs especially when they don’t get hurt all the time like Woodson did.
2) Nnamdi actually has a chance to be mentioned with the best DBs to play the game and has a shot at the hall of fame. Not to mention he is expected to go to the probowl now.
3) He went to Al’s “crush” school USC.
4) IT IS A FREAKIN STUPID @$$ DEAL!!!!!
Offer them #39 pick only and I am starting to talk myself out of that pick!
March 26th, 2010 at 7:45 am
I still think we should offer JaMarcus Russell to St Louis, Buffalo, Minny & Cleveland for a 3rd or 4th rounder
who knows?
I doubt McCoy, Lefevour or Tebow could be had that late in the draft!
March 26th, 2010 at 7:46 am
He went to Al’s “crush” school USC.
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CJ: Nnamdi went to Cal bro …
March 26th, 2010 at 7:49 am
if we’re looking for an undersized speedster to draft at MLB like Sean Lee, Jamar Chaney or Spoon i’d rather just keep Kirk Morrison!
March 26th, 2010 at 7:49 am
Nnamdi is a local boy, which Al also loves. His USC fetish only goes so far. It didn’t spare Marcus or Bing. Do we currently have ANY USC alums on the team?
March 26th, 2010 at 7:50 am
What did Kirk run in the 40 at his combine?
March 26th, 2010 at 7:50 am
My Mock goes like this …
1st (NT) Dan Williams
2nd (OT) Campbell or Brown
3rd (C)Tennant
4th (MLB)Spikes or (MLB) Chaney
5th (FB) John Conner
5th (OT) Nic Richmond
7th (CB)Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
7th (QB) Ryan Perrilloux
March 26th, 2010 at 7:51 am
make Bradley & Morrison a part of the McNabb trade. they are both on the trade block anyways!
Stewart Bradley & Ricky Brown could compete at MLB and we can still draft Micah Johnson in Round 5
March 26th, 2010 at 7:51 am
Tollner is the ony Condom I see on this team, and he may well be history too.
March 26th, 2010 at 7:51 am
BTW if we can get Tebow in the 3rd I would be perfectly fine trading JR away for a 3rd round pick.
March 26th, 2010 at 7:51 am
RR
Lets be honest what do we have to loose? I would take TO and McNabb right now. I think TO has calmed down and he will push the other WRs even if he is slowing down. We need players who know how to win. I would sign TO right now just to be at camp working out with these dudes. Now if he decides to act like a fool cut him like we cut DeAngelo Hall. Hopefully, we cut him for alot cheaper than Hall but we are talking about Al that is on him.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 7:23 am
McNabb and T.O on the same team?
Raiderbeat said a Raider offical called them saying they are kicking the idea around.
Davis must have taken a hard look at his current masterpiece of a team.
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I’m sure everybody on the planet thinks McNabb & Owens would be better than Russell & Walker.
I think they’ve mended that relationship anyways. They’re playing basketball together on some reality show and Owens seems to have matured the past 2-3 years since leaving Philly
March 26th, 2010 at 7:52 am
RRS
Hey Im pulling for Jamarcus to have a break out season..
March 26th, 2010 at 7:54 am
RR
My bad that is what happens when you live in the midwest harvest belt. Well he went to one of those Cali schools. : ) Al still loves his project guys.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 7:46 am
He went to Al’s “crush” school USC.
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CJ: Nnamdi went to Cal bro …
March 26th, 2010 at 7:55 am
Wow, the Bears are shopping Alex Brown. Solid player there.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Bears-working-to-trade-Alex-Brown.html
March 26th, 2010 at 7:57 am
My bad that is what happens when you live in the midwest harvest belt. Well he went to one of those Cali schools. : ) Al still loves his project guys.
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true. I know how you feel
I moved from California to Missouri 3 1/2 years ago
the bible belt = culture shock coming from CA
sort of refreshing for me personally though
March 26th, 2010 at 7:58 am
Does anyone besides me, think that we can get a better pick for Nnamdi than McNabb? No offense but he is on the downside of his career. Asante Samuel is getting up there in football age as well right?
March 26th, 2010 at 7:59 am
the Raiders need another DE like they need a hole in the head BSJ…
March 26th, 2010 at 8:01 am
CJ: if we traded Nnamdi to Philly, the trade would include one of thier corners (probably Samuel since he has the biggest contract)
they are already loaded at corner there.
thats why I say “no Nnamdi” in a trade for McNabb, but if another team wanted N21 I’d be willing to listen …
March 26th, 2010 at 8:03 am
So if we had a chance to trade Russell for a Pick that allowed us to get Tebow, who would want to make that trade?
March 26th, 2010 at 8:07 am
Tollner is the ony Condom I see on this team, and he may well be history too.
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BSJ: no players on the roster, but Hue Jackson, Paul Hackett, John Marshall & Mike Haluchak all have ties to USC as well
March 26th, 2010 at 8:11 am
Madden: I wouldn’t have a problem trading Russell for a 3rd rounder and picking Tebow in Round 3 if we had an established starter at QB …
Gradkowski & Frye at QB = far from a sure thing
no guarantee we’ll finish with more than 5 wins.
Tebow needs 1-2 years of development and Al Davis isn’t patient enough to keep a guy on the shelf who needs to remain there for a while, even if we’re losing. Tebow in Year #3 might prove to be the best QB in this draft class – you heard it here first
March 26th, 2010 at 8:11 am
Sooo….trade your best player for a cover 2 corner who will get toasted just like D.Hall did in the Raiders scheme and a great, but aging QB who will most likely be a 2yr solution, to give the most expensive player on the team time to grow up…I absolutely love McNabb but this trade is terrible
Thanks alot Jamarcus, you didn’t do your job and now the Raiders might trade away their best player b/c of it….
March 26th, 2010 at 8:14 am
Tebow will probably be taken in Round 2 by the Patriots, since they have 3 picks in that round and have shown great interest in Timmy.
Tom Brady will turn 33 in August. By the time he turns 35 his career will likely be done and Tebow will be ready to take over. smart move
I wish Al Davis planned for the future!
March 26th, 2010 at 8:18 am
If JaMarcus is still #3 on the depth chart after OTA’s, camp & preseason I think it’s time to cut our losses and move on …
Bruce, Charlie & Danny will be fine. If one of them get hurt we can sign Jon Kitna or re-sign J.P. Losman
March 26th, 2010 at 8:18 am
My first mock:
1) McClain, MLB
2) Jerry, G/T
3) Tennant, C
4) Calloway, OT
5) Jackson, FB
5) Blount, RB
7) Crompton, QB
7) Jefferson, CB
The weakness of this mock is no DT. I see no DTs worth drafting for our needs after round 1, so I would look for a Grady Jackson type in FA somehow. Or trade.
March 26th, 2010 at 8:20 am
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March 26th, 2010 at 8:20 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 7:59 am
the Raiders need another DE like they need a hole in the head BSJ…
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Wasn’t thinking for Oakland. Just surprised that stud is available. Wish they were shopping Briggs…
March 26th, 2010 at 8:22 am
I hope the Pats take Tebow. He will be a bust for many reasons.
March 26th, 2010 at 8:26 am
BSJ: I’d rather take a flier on Cam Thomas (Round 4), Torrell Troup (Round 5) or Travis Ivey (Round 7) than putting our run stopping hopes into 37 year old Grady Jackson!
That would be worse than signing 35 year old Ted Washington (2004-2005) imo. How much did Grady Jackson help the Lions run defense last year?
March 26th, 2010 at 8:28 am
I don’t like McClain anymore. After reading some I have decided I really want to draft Dan Williams. I think he is comparable (maybe better) than Suh and McCoy and will basically lock down our Run D. We won’t need an amazing MLB if Williams is on the line.
March 26th, 2010 at 8:29 am
A Grady Jackson type, not him. He’s done. I meant a 2 down of run-stopping anchor.
March 26th, 2010 at 8:30 am
I don’t think Ivey, Thomas or Troup have what we need RRS. Its a weak DT class after round 1, IMO.
March 26th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Jamal Williams was the guy, and we missed.
March 26th, 2010 at 8:32 am
A Grady Jackson type, not him. He’s done. I meant a 2 down of run-stopping anchor.
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Al Davis missed out on Jamal Williams & Maake Kemoeatu. The only guys left in free agency are Howard Green & Hollis Thomas. Guys we could still use for depth at NT (better than William Joseph) but not starter material
we would have to swing a trade at this point, unless a big name gets cut after the draft …
March 26th, 2010 at 8:33 am
I also realize AJ Jefferson won’t likely be there in round 7. I’d be OK with round 5 for him though. Just our style of player, and Nnamdi needs a young buck to mentor as Charles did for him.
March 26th, 2010 at 8:34 am
Elijah Alexander RIP!
March 26th, 2010 at 8:36 am
I don’t think Ivey, Thomas or Troup have what we need RRS. Its a weak DT class after round 1, IMO.
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I’m not convinced any of these guys would dominate as rookies either, even coached up by Mike Waufle.
But it addresses a need and you’re right. There is a HUGE dropoff in talent between Dan Williams or Terrence Cody and the above mentioned 3 players …
March 26th, 2010 at 8:36 am
I am way late on this… I will be VERY unhappy if we give up our best player and possibly the best cover corner in the NFL for a 35 year old and a mediocre CB
March 26th, 2010 at 8:38 am
I still doubt we are even trying to get McNabb. When was the last time a Raider trade rumor was correct?
March 26th, 2010 at 8:39 am
I still doubt we are even trying to get McNabb. When was the last time a Raider trade rumor was correct?
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Burgess?
March 26th, 2010 at 8:40 am
I could really see Al bring McNabb in if for nothing else than to be a role model and mentor for Jathargic
March 26th, 2010 at 8:40 am
An atheist was walking through the woods.
‘What majestic trees!
‘What powerful rivers!
‘What beautiful animals!
He said to himself.
As he was walking alongside the river, he heard a rustling in the bushes behind him.
He turned to look. He saw a 7-foot grizzly bear charge towards him.
He ran as fast as he could up the path. He looked over his shoulder & saw that the bear was closing in on him.
He looked over his shoulder again, & the bear was even closer.
He tripped & fell on the ground.
He rolled over to pick himself up but saw that the bear was right on top of
him, reaching for him with his left paw & raising his right paw to strike him.
At that instant the Atheist cried out,’Oh my God!’
Time Stopped.
The bear froze.
The forest was silent.
As a bright light shone upon the man, a voice came out of the sky.
‘You deny my existence for all these years, teach others I don’t exist and even credit
creation to cosmic accident.’ ‘Do you expect me to help you out of this predicament?
Am I to count you as a believer’?
The atheist looked directly into the light, ‘It would be hypocritical of me to suddenly ask you to treat me as a Christian now, but perhaps you could make the BEAR a Christian’?
‘Very Well,’ said the voice.
The light went out. The sounds of the forest resumed. And the bear dropped his right paw, brought both paws together, bowed his head & spoke:
‘Lord bless this food, which I am about to receive from thy bounty through Christ our Lord, Amen.’
March 26th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Was there Burgess rumors? I thought it had already happened before anything came out. Even so, that’s like 1 outa 50.
March 26th, 2010 at 8:43 am
DAN WILLIAMS AND AN UPGRADED ILB IN THE DRAFT FIXES OUR RUN D PROBLEM … JACOBY FORD AND NICK MILLER RETURNING KICKS/PUNTS WOULD BE WAY BETTER THAN OUR FULLBACK BACK THERE … AND A COUPLE OF SOLID O LINEMEN TO OPEN HOLES FOR OUR RUN GAME AND SOME PLAYACTION AND WE WILL BE GOOOOOOOOOOD
March 26th, 2010 at 8:46 am
We can all talk about this position or that position and suddenly we are good, but in reality, the basic fundamentals of this football team wont allow us to be successful. Our team does not follow a winning model at all, and no matter what players we plug in we will never address the true problem.
March 26th, 2010 at 8:49 am
Dan Williams
OT in the 2nd round
Tennent in the 3rd round
And we will be fine this season. Yes, we still need a decent MLB, but we can’t fix everything with 1 (or
drafts.
March 26th, 2010 at 8:49 am
BCZ: I honestly believe that EITHER of these scenarios will net us 8-10 wins next year (maybe 11 with McNabb)
1st (NT) Dan Williams
2nd (OT) Campbell or Brown
3rd (C)Tennant
4th (G) Carter, Petrus or Lauvao
5th (MLB) Micah Johnson
5th (FB) John Conner
7th who cares?
7th who cares?
if we trade a 2nd rounder for McNabb …
1st (NT) Dan Williams
3rd (C) Matthew Tennant
4th (T) Calloway or Fox
5th (MLB) Micah Johnson
5th (FB) John Conner
and get a few guards in free agency.
Bobbie Williams, Randy Thomas, Shawn Andrews, Ben Hamilton are available. Or we could always re-sign Langston Walker?
March 26th, 2010 at 8:52 am
a good morning to all the usual suspects of the a.m. crew and whoever else lurks about.
One solid MLB and the Raider defense will transform.
Revamp the O-line and by week 6 (barring injury) the unit will be performing optimally – yes, I understand that Rooks and FAs and holdovers take some time to gel so the first 1/3 of the season is one of hanging on by the fingernails every game.
while people devote blame game stuff to the pukes of the prior administration and the failures of the current one, there is a debacle staring the U.S. in the face inducing the reaction by pols to bury their collective heads in the sand. It is estimated to require at least one trillion dollars to be spent on basic infrastructure – roads, railways, tunnels, bridges, sewage lines, electrical transmission lines, dams etc. etc. – just to maintain such at their current decaying levels. No estimate to actually upgrade the infrastructure.
Raider On.
March 26th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Don’t know if anyone already posted this
Former NFL linebacker Elijah Alexander dead at 39
(AP) – 19 hours ago
DALLAS — Former NFL linebacker Elijah Alexander has died after a nearly five-year battle with cancer. He was 39.
Medical City Hospital spokeswoman Bianca Jackson said Alexander died Wednesday night at the Dallas facility. She declined to comment on cause of death.
Alexander was diagnosed with multiple myeloma, a cancer of the bone marrow, in 2005, four years after his career ended in Oakland.
The former Kansas State player spent nine seasons with four teams. After one year with Tampa Bay in 1992, Alexander spent three seasons each in Denver and Indianapolis. He made 29 starts in 30 games for Oakland during the final two years of his career in 2000-01.
March 26th, 2010 at 8:55 am
RR I like your mock draft, but I think we need to pick up a CB in there somewhere. And I think we should make sure and draft Ryan Perrilloux even if it is in the 7th. At worst, he is a better 3rd stringer than Frye if he stays out of trouble.
March 26th, 2010 at 8:55 am
One solid MLB and the Raider defense will transform.
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M: so who starts at DT next to Tommy Kelly?
Bryant or Joseph?
and that spells “solid D-Line” ?
IMO a MLB is only as good as the hogs up front allow him to be …
March 26th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Bcz24,
you have some influence in Buffalo right? Can’t you start a campaign for the Buffies to acquire DMc in exchange for Oaktown’s own Marshawn? Or perhaps an even up trade of McF for an order of wings?
March 26th, 2010 at 8:58 am
McClain is not the answer. The front 4 are. If we really want a big MLB go get Spikes in the 4th.
March 26th, 2010 at 9:01 am
Rockstar,
somebody on D has to be the General. Not just a signal-caller. And not just a yapper. Somebody who brings it and has everyone on the same page.
yes, solid interior line play holds the point of attack but someone has to be out there to make third downs difficult for the other team.
March 26th, 2010 at 9:01 am
Madden: take a look at the list of available CB’s in free agency. I think one of these cats will do just fine in nickel or dime packages. Lets not forget that Huff could always cover the slot too (since Routt can’t!)
Dre’ Bly
Lito Sheppard
Nick Harper
Walt Harris
Anthony Henry
Ken Lucas
Deshea Townsend
Nathan Vasher
Fred Smoot
Tye Hill
Will Allen
Phillip Buchanon
Torrie Cox
Vernon Fox
Corey Ivy
William James
Frank Walker
Dante Wesley
Ty Law
Chris McAlister
Mike McKenzie
And I have no problems keeping Frye on board as a 3rd stringer. We already have 1 QB on the roster with a big arm and nothing more. No need to add another (Ryan Perrilloux). Hackett & Tollner have their hands full trying to correct just about everything in Russell’s game. Despite the rumors, Cable said JR wasn’t working on his mechanics during his time off the past 2-3 months. Frye had some bright moments last year in 2 of his 3 games. not starter material though. I like the thought of surrounding JaThargic with high-character worker bees
March 26th, 2010 at 9:02 am
Fair enough, as long as we sign one of those CB’s.
March 26th, 2010 at 9:03 am
DON’T TRADE NNAMDI !!!!!!
Nnamdi is a great player and he is Smart!! I would keep Nnamdi till he retires. He can play CB for a few more years, and then I mve to FS at the end of his career like Rod.
Nnamdi > McNabb & Samuel. Word!
March 26th, 2010 at 9:07 am
R.I.P. Elijah Alexander
March 26th, 2010 at 9:07 am
M: I agree that having a solid MLB is important, but how could McClain possibly succeed playing behind Kelly & Bryant at DT?
to me thats like saying Russell or Gradkowski can be great with Satele/Carlisle/Barnes starting on the right side of the O-Line.
you’re putting your “difference makers” in a position to fail
March 26th, 2010 at 9:09 am
trade Nnamdi for Frantz. word
March 26th, 2010 at 9:09 am
Don’t do it AL!!!
March 26th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Draft Dan Williams, bring back Frantz Joseph. Top 5 Run D.
March 26th, 2010 at 9:10 am
I will put up a billboard next to the Ralph Wilson hate message asking that they swap Mar-criminal for Mcfelldown
March 26th, 2010 at 9:12 am
BCZ: on that note …
have any Raider fans funded a “re-sign Sam Williams” billboard on I-880 yet ???
March 26th, 2010 at 9:14 am
RR – lol @ #485
March 26th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Draft Dan Williams, bring back Frantz Joseph. Top 5 Run D.
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Madden: draft Dan Williams, bring back Sam Williams & Justin Miller.
Top 5 Overall D & Top 5 ST Unit !
March 26th, 2010 at 9:16 am
RR,
Ssshhhhh!!! What’s wrong with you? That’s our secret weapon, but we don’t have to trade Nnamdi to the Askimos to get him. The Askimos like Walrus!
March 26th, 2010 at 9:17 am
DON’T TRADE NNAMDI !!!!!!
Nnamdi is a great player and he is Smart!! I would keep Nnamdi till he retires. He can play CB for a few more years, and then I mve to FS at the end of his career like Rod.
Nnamdi > McNabb & Samuel. Word!
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Nnamdi is a class act and, of all the players on this team, the only one I’ve been tempted to get a jersey of. Not a jersey type of guy. That being said, with Nnamdi’s contract the way it is and considering what it will take to resign him after next year, this trade might just be worth it. Samuel is not bad and it’s not like Nnamdi is making our D stellar. He’s dominant but our D has issues that no CB can resolve.
March 26th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Frantz Joseph is too slow, and was a wasted pick. And Lonetree is right. We are one trade away from a decent running game. Or at least a plate of wings.
March 26th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Seriously, we aren’t trading Nnamdi. Its probably just Schefter making up rumors again and claiming they are fact.
March 26th, 2010 at 9:21 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Frantz Joseph is too slow, and was a wasted pick. And Lonetree is right. We are one trade away from a decent running game. Or at least a plate of wings.
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HOW DARE YOU SIR! Get outa here!
(also, he wasn’t a pick, he was an undrafted free agent, sounds like you know a lot about him)
March 26th, 2010 at 9:21 am
Bcz24,
Buffie needs some DMcChickenlegs to go with their new Cornbread Green (that and plenty of booze to drown dismay).
In Oaktown Marshawn’s mom will knock him into behaving.
March 26th, 2010 at 9:23 am
MAKE THE TRADE!!
Namndi is NOT a good tackler and is extremly fragile. I love him, but I think he is WAY overrated. Namndi only has 2 years left on his deal anyway. Samuels is a force and we all know what McNabb can do. This trade would be a heist.
March 26th, 2010 at 9:23 am
RRS…
i think you are cool as a raider, but man you and your christian fundamentalists could care very little about…
March 26th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Edmonton Eskimos (CFL) only signed Frantz Joseph to the practice squad?
how sad …
trade the walrus for MLB Frantz Joseph!
March 26th, 2010 at 9:25 am
LMN,
do the Kobenhavn Kodbollers have anyone sufficient to be the new Raider MLB?
March 26th, 2010 at 9:27 am
Morning Nation
March 26th, 2010 at 9:29 am
LMN, if you know any soccer players over there around 6′3″ 255 lbs that run a 4.4 forty, would you write grandpa al a letter to make him aware of this?
we’re itching to ship the walrus overseas!
March 26th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Asante Samuel gets burned damn near as much as Deangelo Hall. He makes a fair amount of plays but teams target him a LOT…
March 26th, 2010 at 9:30 am
trade the walrus to get LMN some pirate booty!
March 26th, 2010 at 9:31 am
Trade DMAC to the Kobenhavn Kodbollers!
March 26th, 2010 at 9:31 am
Asante Samuel gets burned damn near as much as Deangelo Hall. He makes a fair amount of plays but teams target him a LOT…
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QB’s that threw his way last year had a QB Rating of 80
March 26th, 2010 at 9:32 am
The Vikings are Donovan McNabb’s first choice for a trade partner, according to beat writer Jeff McLane.
All indications thus far have Brett Favre returning for one more season. Even if he doesn’t return, though, the Vikes aren’t likely to find out until summer time, when McNabb is already long gone from the Eagles. McNabb would also be “open” to a trade to San Francisco, according to one source.
Source: Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News
March 26th, 2010 at 9:32 am
TBB,
I own 2 jerseys, Sir Charles & Jabustus’.lol Samuel has a big contract (not like Nnamdi’s), and McNabb will demand a lot of money for his last contract IMO. I also think that Nnamdi will restructure and stay a Raider if we show improvement. I would rather keep Nnamdi, but I understand that CBs don’t win games and QBs can, so I would still trade for McNabb without Nnamdi being traded. I think a 2nd and another player can get it done. Maybe Huff, TH, Kirk, or a RB.
March 26th, 2010 at 9:36 am
From all the rumors I’ve been reading, it looks like McNabb doesn’t even want to come to Oakland.
March 26th, 2010 at 9:37 am
From all the rumors I’ve been reading, it looks like McNabb doesn’t even want to come to Oakland.
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they said the same thing about Dick Seymour last year!
Raider O: we’re not trading Huff Daddy
get over it!
haha
March 26th, 2010 at 9:39 am
I would still trade for McNabb without Nnamdi being traded. I think a 2nd and another player can get it done. Maybe TH, Kirk, or a RB.
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#39 plus their choice of Howard or Morrison should get it done
If not, i’ll pass
March 26th, 2010 at 9:40 am
Remember last year when we were going to sign Vick.
Seriously I could post something here and if ESPN saw it they would quote it as fact.
I heard from an inside source that the Raiders are making a move for Brett Favre.
March 26th, 2010 at 9:40 am
255lbs, is very very heavy for an european =) so i dont think so…
March 26th, 2010 at 9:41 am
BO,
I thought we were good bro, but then you had to do it. You had to talk crap about Frantz.
Listen here you car industry killer, Southwick Sucks, Mich Sucks, and Frantz is a great player, so get over it.
Damn you Mich!!
Legalize it!!
March 26th, 2010 at 9:42 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 9:40 am
255lbs, is very very heavy for an european
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I think Dirk Nowitzki weighs 245. LOL
March 26th, 2010 at 9:43 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 9:31 am
Trade DMAC to the Kobenhavn Kodbollers!
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BSJ…
Hell no, we dont want him, he is not worthy our league =)
March 26th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Madden: yeah I heard that too!
Vikings get McNabb for a 2nd rounder and then trade Favre to Oakland for a conditional pick in 2011.
2nd rounder if the Raiders make the playoffs this year. 7th rounder if they don’t.
the deal is void if Favre decides to retire a 4th time (or whatever it’s up to now) and will cost the Raiders nothing.
sweet deal. Go Raiders !!!
March 26th, 2010 at 9:46 am
post 42 fat kid
really? marcus allen was washed up when he came to the raiders? from what a brutal college career? some of the posters here say totally ridiculous and unfounded things. you do know that the raiders drafted allen out of usc. right?????????????
March 26th, 2010 at 9:46 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Madden: yeah I heard that too!
Vikings get McNabb for a 2nd rounder and then trade Favre to Oakland for a conditional pick in 2011.
2nd rounder if the Raiders make the playoffs this year. 7th rounder if they don’t.
the deal is void if Favre decides to retire a 4th time (or whatever it’s up to now) and will cost the Raiders nothing.
sweet deal. Go Raiders !!!
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That’s what I heard too!
March 26th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Southwick Sucks
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Raider O: watch your mouth!
“the Danchise” will explode onto the scene this year, you’ll see
March 26th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Huff Daddy had a descent season, but he is not a great player. Get Over It!!
LOL
March 26th, 2010 at 9:48 am
but then again…
My soccer team finally fired the coach, Kent Nielsen he is about 115 kg =)
March 26th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Hell no, we dont want him, he is not worthy our league =)
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No he is not, but you owe us. Eisenhower had you by the short hairs and let you off easy…
March 26th, 2010 at 9:48 am
It’s really funny how in just 2 years DMC has gone from a godsent Mr everything, he will show us what a real RB looks like, all the way to get rid of the bum.
I can see it now 4 games into the season if Grads were to start and we’re 1 and 3 everyone in here will swear they never thought he’d amount to anything and then start calling Mr Davis an idiot for even thinking such a thing. You guy’s did the same thing Javon Walker before he got here. He was the best thing since sliced bread and 3 years later Al Davis was an idiot for ever getting him and he can’t evaluate talent.
Now we should flat out cut DMC. lol
You guy’s are a freakin’ joke.
March 26th, 2010 at 9:49 am
raidertay Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 9:23 am
MAKE THE TRADE!!
Namndi is NOT a good tackler and is extremly fragile. I love him, but I think he is WAY overrated. Namndi only has 2 years left on his deal anyway. Samuels is a force and we all know what McNabb can do. This trade would be a heist.
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That is complete bull sh*t. Asomugha is an excellent tackler especially on an island.
Samuels gets toasted way more than Aso and its not just cuz teams don’t throw at Aso as much.
The comparision to DeAngelo is more accurate for Asante.
Not saying I’m not for the trade, I think Aso’s brilliant and a great Raider but McNabb would help this line and they NEED veteran leadership.
March 26th, 2010 at 9:49 am
Danchise has that something to do with Danmark?
March 26th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Mike Huff is a Pro Bowl calibur FS, but he plays for a team that can’t stop the run and refuses to allow the best shutdown corner in the league shadow the opposing team’s #1 WR
Same with Robert Gallery. He’s surrounded by turds on the O-Line
March 26th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Raider O,
Frantz Joseph is slower than William Joseph!
Hail to the Victors!
March 26th, 2010 at 9:52 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 9:49 am
Danchise has that something to do with Danmark?
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Eurotrash heretic!
March 26th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Now we should flat out cut DMC. lol
You guy’s are a freakin’ joke.
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yeah yeah TJ
don’t cut D-Dogg. cut JaWalrus after he remains #3 on the depth chart behind Bruce & Charlie!
March 26th, 2010 at 9:53 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Raider O,
Frantz Joseph is slower than William Joseph!
Hail to the Victors!
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I heard Frantz Joseph ran a 4.4 40.
March 26th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Aso “fragile”?!
He’s made all but 3 starts since 2005.
March 26th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Southwick is our new ball boy!
March 26th, 2010 at 9:54 am
I think Frantz Joseph & Tom Cable have the same 40 time actually.
Al Davis said the winner remains employed
Joseph was cheaper to part ways with
March 26th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Representatives for Chris Johnson and Usain Bolt have reportedly been unable to agree on a distance at which they’ll run their proposed race.
Bolt, the world champion in the 100 meters, likely wants a longer distance. Johnson, the all-time fastest player at the NFL Combine, would presumably prefer a 40- or 50-yard dash. NBC Olympics has determined that Bolt’s 40-yard split is actually a shade slower than Johnson’s record time of 4.28.
Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports
My $$$$$$$$$$$ on Johnson in the 40.
March 26th, 2010 at 9:56 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Mike Huff is a Pro Bowl calibur FS, but he plays for a team that can’t stop the run and refuses to allow the best shutdown corner in the league shadow the opposing team’s #1 WR
Same with Robert Gallery. He’s surrounded by turds on the O-Line
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Huff’s Pro Bowl caliber?!
Based on the first 5 games of last year? He kind of fell off a little in the end and has been getting dinged up.
He made strides and it was ncie to see finally but to say he’s a pro bowler seems premature.
Hope you’re right, we’ve suffered a drought at safety far too long.
March 26th, 2010 at 9:57 am
Bolt doesn’t even try in half his races vs CJ who had 1 good 40 race.
I’d take Bolt at 40 or 100.
Of course if Frantz Joseph ran in that race, he’d win hands down.
March 26th, 2010 at 9:57 am
priesttj Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 9:48 am
It’s really funny how in just 2 years DMC has gone from a godsent Mr everything, he will show us what a real RB looks like, all the way to get rid of the bum.
I can see it now 4 games into the season if Grads were to start and we’re 1 and 3 everyone in here will swear they never thought he’d amount to anything and then start calling Mr Davis an idiot for even thinking such a thing. You guy’s did the same thing Javon Walker before he got here. He was the best thing since sliced bread and 3 years later Al Davis was an idiot for ever getting him and he can’t evaluate talent.
Now we should flat out cut DMC. lol
You guy’s are a freakin’ joke.
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Stick to the facts, bozo. DMAC fumbles at 3X the rate of other RBs on the team, has a terrible YPC, goes down WAY too easily, and can’t even stay healthy.
In fact, YOU were the on who predicted as much before the draft, saying he goes dead on first contact.
You are the joke. No one here respects you or your football knowledge.
March 26th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Frantz ran a 4.4 40?! No way!
A 4.4 30, maybe.
March 26th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Never mind………
I put my $$$$$$$$$$ on Frantz!!!
March 26th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Raider O Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Southwick is our new ball boy!
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Keep your fantasies to yourself.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:00 am
# Raider O Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Frantz ran a 4.4 40?! No way!
A 4.4 30, maybe.
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I was in feet though, not yards.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:00 am
LMAO RR.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Frantz Joseph is a poor man’s Brian Bosworth.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:01 am
im not to sure about nnamdi’s efforts against the run. maybe it had to do with the fact he played with a broke elbow. however, on a weekly basis, nnamdi would do a kamikaze type dive at the RB’s legs, and completely miss. many, many times, he got into the backfield on stretch type runs, and whiffed. that being said, i would not trade nnamdi. this guy shuts down 1 side of the field. that being said, i’m on the fence about trading bush. he asks out of games an awful lot, but who knows with mcfad. this guy is hurt, tackles himself, trips over the hashmarks.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:01 am
RRS, We’ll see who’s 3rd string when the season starts, I can gaurantee you it wont be Russell. It might be Gradkowski especially after what Cable said about him.
You’re writing stories long before you’re even close to having a clue what might happen. At this point pumpkin Russell looks like he might be the one. Wether you realize it or not.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:02 am
raider o…
you mean, 5 steps 4.4, right =)
March 26th, 2010 at 10:03 am
He made strides and it was ncie to see finally but to say he’s a pro bowler seems premature.
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fair enough N21. the kid is a player. I know that much
I know he was benched way too soon by Cable in 2008. 5 games at FS wasn’t enough evidence after starting the past 32 at SS (out of position)
Nnamdi & Kirk both said he’d be the surprise player of the year and he was IMO.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:04 am
BoSJack,
how many NFL linebackers have a portion of the world named after them? Franz Josef Land!
BHP,
most people here are not advocating cutting McF outright. Just a fair trade. A plates of wings or a roll of paper towels or a six pack of Stella Artois come to mind.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:05 am
All that’s on ESPN is a rumor of McNabb going to Minnesota. Looks like some Raider fans just decided to start a rumor.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:07 am
BSJ
its funny about the dmac fumbles. here is a good story. yesterday i went by my cousins house. he was playing madden 10 for ps3. he says to me, you don’t want none of this. i said ok 50 bucks 1 game. so, first play, i figured i’d throw long to dhb, wide open, dropped the ball. next play, i hit mcfadden out in the flat, he comes up to make a hit, i do a juke to the inside of the field, guess what? he fumbled. wasn’t even touched. later on in the game, he challenges a play, we both agree his receiver only got one foot in bounds, guess what? they give him the catch. who ever said video games aren’t close to reality? in the matter of 20 minutes i saw 3 things that happen a lot. mcfad fumble, dhb drop, and bad officiating
March 26th, 2010 at 10:08 am
We’ll see who’s 3rd string when the season starts, I can gaurantee you it wont be Russell. It might be Gradkowski especially after what Cable said about him.
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TJ: here’s what Cable said about Bruce during the owner’s meetings this week …
Q: How big then that Al let you make the QB change last year?
A: Well sure it was. We were 100 yards better a game, we were 7-8 yards better in rushing, we were a touchdown better in scoring. That’s just throwing a guy in the middle of the season. I think for me that shows you if you can get that worked out, what you can potentially be.
Q: Was that proof Al lets you coach and make your own decisions?
A: Oh absolutely. I know this. If that wasn’t true, I would not have been allowed to make the quarterback change. There’s no way based on what’s involved. There’s just no way. He told me “You’re the coach, you decide.”
Q: Bruce Gradkowski?
A: I think your quarterback has to have some of that energy. He did a nice job of that when he was in there but, like JaMarcus and everyone else, he’s got to do better and there’s things specifically he has to improve on to be the quarterback of the Oakland Raiders. I think this will be a great competition.
He is a good fit. He’s healthy, the leg injuries and everything are fine. For him, let’s just see where he can go with it. I think he proved he can play in the NFL. If he’s going to be a starter, can he do it for the long haul? I think his toughness, his leadership, he’ll find a way to make plays, his ability to bring the group together for the same cause.
-David White (SF Gate) posted yesterday
March 26th, 2010 at 10:10 am
You guy’s did the same thing Javon Walker before he got here. He was the best thing since sliced bread and 3 years later Al Davis was an idiot for ever getting him and he can’t evaluate talent.
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Not true. I thought we paid way too much even when it first went down. I also thought Davis made a mistake by not accepting Walker’s offer to return the money and retire. And guess what? I was right. Turned out to be a colossal mistake.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Bruce described by Tom Cable:
-toughness
-his leadership
-he’ll find a way to make plays
-his ability to bring the group together for the same cause
Has he ever said any of those things about JaMarcus?
March 26th, 2010 at 10:11 am
rockstar
what is your take on the trade? too many posts in this thread to read ‘em all. also, if they do trade for mcnabb, do you think they pay jruss 9 mil to be a backup? and im sure you want grads as our qb, but can he survive? if russell is on the roster, he will start. anyway is there a time frame in which they have to cut him without having to pay him? (russell)
March 26th, 2010 at 10:11 am
We’ll see who’s 3rd string when the season starts, I can gaurantee you it wont be Russell. It might be Gradkowski especially after what Cable said about him.
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LOL! What have you been reading? The Enquirer?
March 26th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Bo aka Preppie Car Industry Killer,
Talk about what you know which is not much: Unions, killing an industry, and stealing talent from the great State of Ohio.
The OSU > ND > Mich
March 26th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Rockster, who cares what Butterbean says?
March 26th, 2010 at 10:15 am
How did unions kill the car industry, Raider O?
March 26th, 2010 at 10:15 am
anyone hear the geald mccoy interview on rome’s show. very humble guy. seems like a nice dude. rome was enamored with him.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:19 am
anyway is there a time frame in which they have to cut him without having to pay him? (russell)
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NE: not sure on this, but I think a player salary is paid by week in the NFL. roster bonus & guaranteed money is different. So JR is guaranteed $3 million this season if he gets cut today or 2 days before Week 1. Thats why I think we should see what he looks like in OTA’s, camp & preseason before making any drastic decisions about his future. By cutting him before the season starts we wouldn’t be responsible for his $6.5 million salary (for a total of $9.5 million if he sticks all season long).
Of course I’d trade for McNabb, but the price has to be right. 3 year contract extension and we’ll give Philly our 2nd rounder and their choice of either Morrison or Howard. I don’t want to trade away Nnamdi Asomugha and inherit a zone corner from them or be forced to draft Kyle Wilson in Round 2. Keep the players who produce and pitch the ones who don’t unless a different team makes a significant offer for N21.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:21 am
man im tired… I think i need a nap =)
March 26th, 2010 at 10:21 am
You gotta love it. Some Raider fan starts a rumor on a blog about a trade for McNabb, and half the Raider Nation spends the next 3 days breaking down the price factor of the trade.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:22 am
LMN,
He wasn’t that bad. He ran 4.8+.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:27 am
Raider O, how did unions ruin the auto industry? Do you even know what you’re talking about? Did you just overhear some right wing moron like Rush Limbaugh say that?
March 26th, 2010 at 10:27 am
since the Packers have a 3-4 defense now and Ryan Pickett at NT, the best trade scenario would be Nnamdi Asomugha to the Packers (paired with C Wood) in exchange for Al Harris, B.J. Raji and a 3rd round pick.
Harris would compete with (and probably beat) Routt at the corner spot opposite Chris Johnson. Raji solves the run defense issue and we get our 3rd rounder back from the Wimbley trade!
March 26th, 2010 at 10:31 am
I can’t picture Raider O putting the Koran down on his lunch break and flipping the radio on to hear Rush Limbaugh bash the dems
March 26th, 2010 at 10:31 am
That sounds like a trade that’s a little out of Al Davis’s realm, rockstar. Is it that you keep forgetting your favorite team is owned by Al Davis? Because as much as you like the guy, you seem to have a knack to bring up scenarios that Al would never go for.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:33 am
Why would you say koran? Is Raider O a muslim?
March 26th, 2010 at 10:36 am
ESPN’s Len Pasquarelli confirms that the Raiders would be willing to part with Nnamdi Asomugha in a trade for Donovan McNabb.
It would come down to Philadelphia’s willingness to take on Asomugha’s contract, though. “Aso” is due $16 million in 2010 with an option year in 2011 available for either $16.9 million or the franchise tag number for quarterbacks, whichever amount is greater. If the ‘11 option is not exercised, the deal prohibits Asomugha’s team from franchise tagging him.
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
March 26th, 2010 at 10:36 am
I’ll let him answer that. I won’t go any further
I doubt he would appreciate me discussing his personal life on an internet blog with you.
I’ve said too much already, but I respect Raider O. He’s a cool guy
March 26th, 2010 at 10:38 am
McNabb + Samuel for Nnamdi seems somewhat unlikely. Samuel is probably a top-5 CB in the league though Nnamdi is clearly better.
What about Nnamdi + our 2nd round pick for McNabb and the Eagles’ 1st rounder?
That would enable us to get a top OT and say Mike Iupati in the 1st. Or, we could trade up from No. 8 to No. 2 (without giving up that 2nd 1st rounder) and get Suh + Iupati.
Offense would look like this:
QB- McNabb
RB1- McFadden/Bush
WR1- Schilens
WR2- Murphy
WR3- DHB
TE- Miller
LT- Trent Williams/Bruce Campbell
LG- Gallery
C- Satele
RG- Iupati
RT- Henderson
Defense would look like:
DE- Shaughnessy
DT- Seymour
DT- Kelly
DE- Scott
LB- Wimbley
LB- Howard
LB- Morrison
CB- CJ
CB- Routt
FS- Huff
SS- Branch
And that lineup doesn’t include picks in the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 5th, 7th and 7th rounds.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:40 am
rockstar
i agree with you in regards to the trade. i don’t see al giving up on russell. granted he has a couple supporters here, and many haters, which is justifiable. im sure we ALL would love for him to succeed. if we dont make a trade for mcnabb, i dont see al paying this guy that kind of $$ to hold a clipboard. personally, you know my feelings, with solid oline and receiver play, i think russell can be a decent qb. his issues may be mental. as well as his weight and footwork issues. lets be fair, his guys didn’t help him any, and he probably did not help them. at times, yes he did hold onto the ball toooooo long, and other times, he could not complete his drop back without being pressured. anyhow, we need oline help, without a decent oline, we will not win anything with russell, mcnabb, or grads. speaking of grads, is this guy strong enough to finish a season? seemed he was knocked down an awful lot, and took a beating in just a few games, because of our poor pass blocking
March 26th, 2010 at 10:40 am
good work DMAC. thanks for the info
I think Nnamdi would be happy to rework his deal and finish his career in Philly, where he’d get an opportunity to compete for a championship each year.
Philly knows how to send pressure & stop the run, making N21’s job so much easier – although he would probably be forced to shadow #1 WR’s there
I still think the issue is “McNabb and what else for Asomugha?”
March 26th, 2010 at 10:41 am
You’re a dumbass, Rockstar. You’re talking about how you don’t discuss peoples personal lives, yet you told me he reads the koran. You are some kind of stupid.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:41 am
+ what we might add in free agency (hopefully Mawae).
March 26th, 2010 at 10:44 am
murphy is going to be a stud. yeah, he made a few rookie mistakes, but the kid certainly knows how to get open. mark my words, he will be the best wr out of that draft. although harvin impacts the game better with his kr ability. any decent qb play, this guy will put up numbers. as long as dhb doesn’t start over him
March 26th, 2010 at 10:44 am
Raiders look like at least a 10-6 team with that lineup.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:44 am
NE: Agreed
no matter who plays QB for the Raiders this season, they’re gonna need protection and a formidable rushing attack to rely on. and on defense we still need a nose tackle to stop the run.
trading for a starter quality QB and swapping CB’s does nothing to address the lines (the biggest issue)
March 26th, 2010 at 10:44 am
hey dont call my buddy rockstar stupid
March 26th, 2010 at 10:45 am
MR: thanks for those kind words
glad to know you aren’t interested in the personal lives of posters on this blog. LOL!
March 26th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Is this a joke? Nnamdi for McNabb and Samuel?
Al better make damn sure Samuel can play man to man D and isn’t just a zone fukstick like D. Hall.
If he can play man to man I say do this trade in a heartbeat….get McNabb and a very good corner for a very good corner and no draft picks?
Hell yes, do the deal.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:46 am
If the Lambs take Bradford, wonder what it’d take to trade up to No. 2 and get Suh? Our 1st, 3rd and one of our 5ths should be enough, no?
But don’t throw that trade value chart at me. That thing is now obsolete with the money players are guaranteed at the top of the draft.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:47 am
This move would be as dumb as it gets.
Cable likes Gradowski out of the three quarterbacks. He keeps saying it’s an open competition only because Al wants to be proven right on Russell.
The problem is that Al is wrong on Russell.
Bring McNabb in to tutor Russell? McNabb is on record as saying it’s not just Russell’s fault, “it’s a team effort” which is why Al might be leaning towards bringing in McNabb.
Again, he wants to be right and Kiffin wrong.
The rest of the Raiders aren’t responsible for Russell’s lousy footwork, moving too slow going back in the pocket, throwing passes too short, too high, too hard or just plain in the dirt. His passing puts the livelehood of receivers in danger of career ending injuries.
Bringing in McNabb as QB also makes no sense. He’s far better than Russell but so was Garcia.
The three quarterback competition that Cable has mentioned is already over and Gradowski won.
How can we improve Russell? How about a lobotomy?
March 26th, 2010 at 10:48 am
rockstar
you are absolutely right. we must fix the lines.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:49 am
If McNabb does come here there’s a very good chance Russell is cut or has to take a 50% pay cut. No way he gets $9.5 million to be a No. 3 QB.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Listen to this idiot. I wouldn’t even know a thing about Raider O’s personal life if rocktard hadn’t have opened his herpes ridden, redneck pie hole about it.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:51 am
How can we improve Russell? How about a lobotomy?
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LOL!!!
March 26th, 2010 at 10:52 am
I already said I was a muslim here before, but I appreciate that RR. Thank you.
I have been workng in the car industry as salesman/ wholesaler for the past 12 years. I think I know a little about the industry I work in.
I’m going to get ready to go pray now. I’ll be back in a few hours. (Take it Easy Dakota, and tell your friends at the agency not to worry) lol
March 26th, 2010 at 10:52 am
603 england
while you’re right in your post, lets not forget how grads was leaving his receivers to take good shots. even frye let miller take two huge hits against balti. miller was coming of missing a game due to concussion and should not have even played in the season finale, the problem is the blocking. all 3 qb’s were forced to throw the ball before they wanted to. thus leaving guys to take shots.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:53 am
MR: how about discussing football for once?
you up to the challenge?
try to keep up with other posters in here …
March 26th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Garbagekowski and/or Russell will never ever be in the same category as McNabb. They are both trash.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Raider O, I didn’t ask you what you do for a living. I asked you how unions “killed” the car industry. Did you just overhear some idiot on the radio say that?
March 26th, 2010 at 10:56 am
rockstar, how about you and Raider O discuss football? You guys are talking about religious beliefs, unions, the car industry…
March 26th, 2010 at 10:56 am
How can we improve Russell? How about a lobotomy?
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There is a prerequisite for a lobotomy.
March 26th, 2010 at 10:59 am
How about a lobotomy for the guy who drafted Russell, and who took up for him on national television when firing the coach who DID NOT want him?
March 26th, 2010 at 11:01 am
MR, Raider O bashes the auto industry to rile me up because I am a Michigan fan and he is an OSU Suckeye fan.
He is also studying finance and has a very pro-business viewpoint. His classes and experience have likely conviced him that GM cars would be just as good as Hondas if only GM didn;t have to pay all those pension and healthcare costs. Of course, without unions and the fair wages they are paid, there would be no customers for those cars and trucks anyways.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:03 am
I got it… Trade our #2 pick to the eagles for mcnabb, then trade Nnam to the niners for a first, 2nd/3rd, and a fourth round pick. Bam!!!
March 26th, 2010 at 11:04 am
“his classes and experience”. lol.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:06 am
The car industry got killed by the industry heads themselves, making cuts to their product and labor before their own lavish personal lives.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:06 am
the Steelers re-signed Charlie Batch.
NO!!!
March 26th, 2010 at 11:07 am
buy American!
March 26th, 2010 at 11:07 am
RealMadden,
Unions demanded higher pay beyond the rate of inflation and all kinds of other benefits, which made car companies realize they could manufacture a product cheaper outside the US.
That’s how unions killed the auto industry. I don’t know how that came up.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:08 am
MR, Raider O is a good guy rather or not you agree with him.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Unions demanded higher pay beyond the rate of inflation and all kinds of other benefits, which made car companies realize they could manufacture a product cheaper outside the US.
That’s how unions killed the auto industry. I don’t know how that came up.
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Pure horsesh!t. Why then are Japanese and German companies building quality cars here in the US? Without unions?
March 26th, 2010 at 11:11 am
mini coopers are made in Haiti, aren’t they BSJ?
haha
March 26th, 2010 at 11:11 am
They build some cars here true — but what does that matter when the majority aren’t?
March 26th, 2010 at 11:12 am
Samsam, nice right wing spin. “rate of inflation”. ha ha ha!!! I wont even ask you to define that. I won’t embarrass you.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:13 am
It’s true that McNabb is better than Gradowski-as far as we know. Gradowski and Frye both appear to be competent but average.
But as good as McNabb is, he’s an ageing QB as was Garcia. It’s a Lenin reverse: three steps forward and two steps back.
How can you be the future if you’re already the past?
And when I think of trading King Aso to bring in McNabb to tutor Crispy Creme Russell, I want to set my beard on fire.
Fortunately I’ve got plenty of beer standing by to put out the fire.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:13 am
RealMadden,
hahaha… I know, inflation is soooo funny isn’t it??
IDIOT.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Unions demanded that ownership share more of the profits with the employees on the assembly line. Previously, it was only the execs and ownership who reaped the profits. Same as the change that took pace in the NFL.
When employees create a product with value in the marketplace, the revenue generated should be equitably shared with ALL of the employees who created the value in the first place.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:14 am
RealMadden,
I suppose the deficit is big enough to take care of itself too huh?
March 26th, 2010 at 11:15 am
the age of qbs is not relevant. look at gannons best years. look at how good favre was last year.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:15 am
SamSam, what’s funny is your attempt to use inflation as an excuse. You don’t even know what inflation is. Dumbass.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:17 am
samsam Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 11:11 am
They build some cars here true — but what does that matter when the majority aren’t?
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The vast majority of Japanese cars sold in the US are manufactured in this country. Subaru, Honda, Toyota, et. al.
Granted, many parts are not origninally made here but the flip side is that plants in japan also use parts that ARE made here.
Have you not noticed that the Toyota throttle issues are traced back to a US supplier of the accelerator, and that is for Toyotas sold worldwide.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Don’t try to turn this into an economic political discussion now, SamSam. We’re just talking about unions and the car industry. It’s not soap box time for you. I know you guys are angry about the health care bill, so I’m just warning you. Nobody wants to hear your whining.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:17 am
RealMadden who are you? How do you know what I know and don’t know? You make me laugh with your ridiculous assumptions.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:18 am
ship all foreign made crap back overseas.
revamp the auto industry here in the good ole USA.
put some of these unemployed people back to work. teach them a trade and let them provide for their families.
we have too many able-bodied men sitting at home sponging off the government
March 26th, 2010 at 11:20 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 11:18 am
ship all foreign made crap back overseas.
revamp the auto industry here in the good ole USA.
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Man, you are naive. That train left the station in 1975.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:21 am
That train left the station in 1975.
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BSJ: I know! bring it back!
March 26th, 2010 at 11:24 am
RRS, there are NEW industries that need to be developed in the US and that can put our countrymen back to work. We have the best higher educatoin system in the world, and most hi-tech R&D is done here. What makes the US non-competitive is that other nations invest directly into the startup of new companies, using our technology and with professionals trained in our universities.
The role of good government is to invest in the future strength of our country. And not just via the military.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:25 am
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March 26th, 2010 at 11:26 am
The role of the government is to allow people the means to invest in what they want. When the government chooses what industries are valuable and what aren’t — they are attempting to shift the market. Markets don’t react well to that and that typically leads to investment in things people don’t want. I think our government has taken on a a major role it knows very little about. Wow we are way off football now.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Professor Bo Schembechler Jackson has ended his lecture.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:28 am
The role of the government is to allow people the means to invest in what they want.
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You mean overpriced houses? We need real jobs. Not everyone can be a slackass mortgage pimp like KoolKell.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:28 am
SamSam you’re the one trying to use inflation to explain the greed of the auto industry. CAn’t take the heat stay out of the kitchen whiner.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Make the trade: Asomugha for McNabb & Samuel. Then draft:
1. SUH – DT (trade up – our 1st plus 2012 1st) or Dan Williams – DT if no trade.
2. Maurkice Pouncey – C.
3. Donald Butler – MLB
4. Tony Washington – OT
5A. Mitch Petrus – OG
5B. John Conner – FB
7A. Deji Karin – RB (KR/PR)
7B. Alfonso Smith – RB (KR/PR)
With a decent QB, a rebuilt OL, a rebuilt Dl, young talent at most positions, a new OC w/o Cable involvement, we could easily expect at a minimum, the playoffs.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:30 am
rockstar, the rich and the poor alike have been sponging off of the government for almost a century. but rednecks like you only blame the poor, particularly minorities.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:31 am
Sam Sam, that is NOT the role of government. It does not say that anywhere. That is YOUR ideology.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:33 am
RealMadden,
You are a dumb, ASSuming old man. I’m not talking with you. It’s not about heat in the kitchen. You can’t grasp my basic points so you revert to ASSumptions and insults.
Bo,
Those overpriced houses were a result of government interference. They dropped interest rates to practically nothing to increase credit and borrowing — then, surprise surprise, people defaulted on their loans because they had no actual money. We need real interest rates and real investment, not keynsian credit boosting schemes.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Govt. has to PROVIDE an initial market for products that are very costly to start up. Look at NASA and all the ancillary industries that arose out of our investment in space. Or look at new drugs that are very risky to produce. The goverment gives 10+ year patent protection to CREATE A MARKET so private investment will be possible. Or look at nuclear plant contruction. Govt. loan guarantees allow private companies to stomach the risk, pay back the loans and keep people working. No private investment would cover that large of a risk. And the public gets the benefits of clean energy AND quality jobs.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Why is Corkran posting a rumor????????????????????
This trade will never happen. Donovan will end up in Minny or AZ; where they actually know how to run an NFL squad.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:35 am
Bo,
Those overpriced houses were a result of government interference. They dropped interest rates to practically nothing to increase credit and borrowing — then, surprise surprise, people defaulted on their loans because they had no actual money. We need real interest rates and real investment, not keynsian credit boosting schemes.
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Right. You can thank Greenspan for that concept. Govt. was using its role ineffectively.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:35 am
Look how good Favre was last year?
How about looking at him one year later–like now?
Maybe he can play maybe he can’t.
Sure we got lucky with Gannon and maybe McNabb would also play well for a year or two but as I said it’s two steps forward and three steps back.
We need to keep Aso and do something about the OL and stopping the bleeding run.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:36 am
if you don’t work, you don’t eat.
take care of the widows & elderly.
those are Biblical principals and I believe in them.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Greenspan or Bernanke. They all follow the same BS financial philosophy.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:39 am
Sam Sam, your “basic points” are right wing spin, pure b.s.. I make no attempts to grasp such nonsense. So yeh, you’ve got that right.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:40 am
rednecks like you only blame the poor, particularly minorities.
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why are they poor? thats my question. USA believes in Capitalism (or used to)
poor people can turn it around and make a living just fine. the Gov aids poor kids to get a college education too
minorities? getting government money? worst idea EVER. no need to elaborate on that. next question
March 26th, 2010 at 11:41 am
rockstar those aren’t biblical principles, it’s merely shyt that everyone knows. And everyone else knows that it’s not that simple, either. There’s a real world out there, and it’s going to shyt. And, poor people are not the reason for it.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:42 am
RealMadden,
Thank you for admitting that you don’t listen to other opinions. It’s all I wanted to hear.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:43 am
those aren’t biblical principles
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yes they are. read for yourself
March 26th, 2010 at 11:43 am
USA believes in capitalism? Maybe you do, but the USA sure as hell doesn’t. Have you seen the money that’s been going to banks the past couple of years? You’ve been brainwashed by a.m. radio, rockster. Why are people poor. lol. What a thing to say in the midst of the worst economy since the depression. I hope republicans keep showing their true colors like you.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:44 am
End Recession, check
Nobel Peace Prize, check
Health Care Reform, check
Nuclear Arms Control, check
Pretty good, eh?
March 26th, 2010 at 11:44 am
rockstar, i have read the bible. i enjoy good fiction. what Im telling you is that those principles are not exclusive to the bible. everyone believes that. the problem is that the wealthiest have too much of the money and they have corrupted the more powerful governments.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:45 am
I’m not BLAMING poor people for a terrible economy.
I grew up poor, but my dad worked and mom did too after us kids were in high school
March 26th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Sam Sam, it’s not opinions I ignore, it’s flat out attempts at distortion. Blaming inflation for the auto industry’s greed. lol. don’t make me f’n laugh.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:46 am
your dad had an opportunity others didn’t have, rockstar. and it’s likely his skin color helped. Stop acting like such a dumb redneck.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Dedicated to RaiderRockstar,
I never came across anyone in whom the moral sense was dominant who was not heartless, cruel, vindictive, log-stupid, and entirely lacking in the smallest sense of humanity. Moral people, as they are termed, are simple beasts. I would sooner have fifty unnatural vices than one unnatural virtue.
Oscar Wilde
March 26th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Actually Rockstarr, all of those principales you mentioned are indeed stressed in the bible.
Mr’s probably reading a different bible.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:46 am
RaiderDogg Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Now I am hearing that the Raiders are offering Michael Bush and a 3rd round pick, #69, for Donovan McNabb with the intention of using the 2nd round pick, #39, on Jahvid Best to replace Bush.
Remember, I am just passing along information, I am not saying this is what I want or am I endorsing what is being told to me.
I would hate to see Mike Bush go, he reminds me of Earl Campbell.”
I am hearing that Michael Bush may be off the table in this deal now…
March 26th, 2010 at 11:47 am
what Im telling you is that those principles are not exclusive to the bible. everyone believes that.
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where do you think it originated from smart guy?
The Bible.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:49 am
samsam Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Bo,
Those overpriced houses were a result of government interference. They dropped interest rates to practically nothing to increase credit and borrowing — then, surprise surprise, people defaulted on their loans because they had no actual money. We need real interest rates and real investment, not keynsian credit boosting schemes.
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Actually, I know this area quite a bit. I used to own a subprime lending company. We were one of those lenders. The govt DIDNT interfere enough. We have zero regulations in our industry. Mortgage was truly freemarket capitalism at its best and it proved that pure and truly freemarket does not work. People chased the profits and they could careless about any long term ramnifications. At the broker and lender level, we were too busy making money from one transation to the next. If you dont do it, someone else will. We all knew this schytt was going to blow up but we figured wallstreet would think of new shcytt to keep this going. Had I not think that, I could have shorted the market and been a billionaire by now but it was shark in infested water mentality.
Second, the govt only lowered the interest rates after the market blew up. I was lending at 7% in subprime and people didnt care.
Third, I hate Texas but they have a law there that put restrictions on Cashout Refi. That helped them avoid the market collapse. The cashout refi, the subprime/zero down financing and the neg amort were all a result of freemarket ideas that ended up blowing up on everyone. And now you are educated.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:49 am
England Raider, I have read the bible. I try to read all good fiction. The point I was making was that those values are not exclusive to the bible. I don’t understand why rockstar would even bring the bible into this. We’re talking about something REAL, the economy. Not fictional novels.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:49 am
rockstar, what originated from the bible? The bible is a fictional novel. nothing originated from it.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Dedicated to RaiderRockstar,
I never came across anyone in whom the moral sense was dominant who was not heartless, cruel, vindictive, log-stupid, and entirely lacking in the smallest sense of humanity. Moral people, as they are termed, are simple beasts. I would sooner have fifty unnatural vices than one unnatural virtue.
-Oscar Wilde
March 26th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Thanks Dogg!
March 26th, 2010 at 11:51 am
moral code is derived from the Bible as well. example the 10 Commandments
lying = bad
stealing = bad
adultery = bad
murder = bad
disrespecting your parents = bad
etc etc
March 26th, 2010 at 11:52 am
where do you think it originated from smart guy?
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Ahem. I believe humans believed in caring for old people and earning their keep long before Moses led the tribes out of Egypt.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:54 am
RealMadden…
keep on watching Olbermann and Maddow
March 26th, 2010 at 11:54 am
rockstar you are nuts. those values were not first mentioned in the bible.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:54 am
KK,
I don’t care what some poet who died over 100 years ago thinks about “moral sense” …
March 26th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Keep on lying about the reasons for the auto industry failing, samsam.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Dems are taking major hits this November — and wait till 2012. Obama = 4 n Out
March 26th, 2010 at 11:55 am
BSJ
I figured I would mix it up and post some actual football info.
The 3rd round pick (#69) is still on the table along with a 5th (#158) and a possible late round pick in next year’s draft…
March 26th, 2010 at 11:55 am
ha ha, rockstar doesn’t care what a poet from 100 years ago thinks but he’s all hung up on a fictional book written earlier than that. what a f’n rube.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Aig, ty for the knowledge. Now the Repubs are fighting against re-enacting the regulations you say were sorely lacking. People never learn. The govt. is not the root of all evil. Check the Bible.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Sure, sam sam. A couple of years ago you were probably saying Obama couldn’t win, either.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:57 am
I’m not lying — rising wages is one of the reasons for the decline of the American auto industry, like it or not. You on the other hand have offered nothing substantive.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:57 am
MR
did you just call someone a “rube”? Hilarious.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:58 am
The 3rd round pick (#69) is still on the table along with a 5th (#158) and a possible late round pick in next year’s draft…
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Too good to happen. We do have Philly over a barrel though. They HAVE to dump McNabb and their market is thin…
March 26th, 2010 at 11:58 am
sam sam, the greed of the auto industry is the main cause of their decline, like it or not.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:58 am
RaiderDogg Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 11:57 am
MR
did you just call someone a “rube”? Hilarious.
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He backspaced over “maroon”. LOL
March 26th, 2010 at 11:58 am
MR: I believe in 100 % of what the Bible says
to me, Bible = fact
so if you want to discount that, thats on you.
one day every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord
March 26th, 2010 at 11:58 am
if the shoe fits , dogg.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:59 am
rockstar, I know you believe 100% of what the bible says. It’s how I’ve determined that you’re nuts.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Anti-Health CARE Teabagger Mike Vanderboegh Is On Government-Paid Disability
http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/03/anti-hcr-teabagger-mike-vanderboegh-is.html
March 26th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Bo,
you’re welcome. As much as Texas claim freedom and all that liberty, they actually had a law against cashout refi which was odd to me but it worked.
I am not anti-freemarket nor all regulations. If we all think about it, everything in our world works real well when there is balance in your life, your business and your spirit.
That is why I am a big advocate of finding that balance between govt regulations and free market.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
MR doesn’t seem to have a job cause he sits on the internet all day and types comments on this blog. Meaning he’s poor and hence why he likes Obama (yay free stuff from the government).
March 26th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Obama = 4 n out.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Donovan McNabb reportedly phoned coach Andy Reid Thursday to inform him he wants to stay in Philadelphia this year.
If so, it was reportedly the first time the two have spoken “in months.” McNabb also apparently isn’t as hurt by the Eagles’ trade efforts as it may seem. Still, the team is gearing up to move him. Expect a deal before the draft.
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
March 26th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Texas can just stuff cactus in their mouth after all of that talk of freedom and secession last year. Just a few weeks after their governor threatened to secede because of the colored guy in the white house, he was begging Obama for funds to help with the swine flu. What a dumb redneck, as all of them are.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Rockstar
Good for you for standing up for what you believe in. Respect.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
samsam Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 11:57 am
I’m not lying — rising wages is one of the reasons for the decline of the American auto industry, like it or not. You on the other hand have offered nothing substantive.
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I have, and you are wrong. Building products that people want is the problem. When we were buying all those SUVs and gas was cheap, Ford, Chrysler and GM were financially sound. They did not invest in building quality cars people wanted, and did not foresee the demand for efficient models. Do not scape goat the hard working employees. Unless you want to credit the same American employees that build Camrys and Accords for the success of Honda and Toyota.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Maddenraiderfan, who are you to judge rather or not anyone has a job? Selling your video games on ebay is not a career.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Ahhh, the holier than thou Teabaggers:
And that’s exactly what these wingnuts are doing to members of Congress who voted to support health care reform. And they’re not stopping there, but continuing with death threats, malicious phone calls, faxing images of nooses and gallows, and mailing white powder to offices.
But the kicker about Vanderboegh? He lives off $1,300/month government disability checks. And the kicker about the Teabaggers? A new poll finds that 70% of them want that big, scary government to foster jobs creation AND regulate Wall Street and their exorbitant bonuses.
Ah, hypocrisy at it’s finest.
http://www.politicalinaction.com/2010/03/classic-hypocrisy-teabagger-edition.html
March 26th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Don’t be impressed with your own wisdom. Instead, fear the Lord and turn your back on evil.
Proverbs 3:7
March 26th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
sam sam, you idiots were saying Obama wouldn’t win two years ago, too. Now you’re saying he’s a one term president. Suuure, buddy.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
rockstar, i like the bible. it’s great fiction. you can quote it all y ou want to. I don’t mind.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Maddenraiderfan, who are you to judge rather or not anyone has a job? Selling your video games on ebay is not a career.
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It’s “whether” not “rather”. Apparently you never graduated high school either.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
That is why I am a big advocate of finding that balance between govt regulations and free market.
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God willing and Amen.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
dogg, everyone here is standing up for what they believe in, yet you only give the Christian their props? Great, another bible thumping inbred.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Anyways I am just going to ignore MR from now on because he just wants attention, I hope you will all join me. I’d rather talk about the raiders anyway.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
maddenraider fan, who are you to judge people’s grammar? your screen name itself is a grammatical mess. you can’t judge me on any level.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Anti-Health CARE Teabagger Mike Vanderboegh Is On Government-Paid Disability
http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/03/anti-hcr-teabagger-mike-vanderboegh-is.html
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Great post KK.
I heard that he stayed home and I was wondering why CNN didnt dig and find out why. Now we know. I tell you man. The guy that is most extreme is probably the biggest hypocrite. The most anti-gay advocate is usually a gay person himself as proven time and again with all these politcians. The guy that advocates for moral purity is probably a cheater…see that SC govt Sanford.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
maddenraiderfan, you’re the one who wants attention. nobody addressed you, you just chimed in and started insulting me. you’re the punk who needs attention, punk.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
MR
The closest I have come to really reading the bible is the Kebra Negast, at least since I was a kid.
If you don’t stand for something, you will fall for anything…
March 26th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Do not do as the wicked do or follow the path of evildoers. Avoid their haunts. Turn away and go somewhere else, for evil people cannot sleep until they have done their evil deed for the day.
Proverbs 4:14-15
sounds like MR, no?
March 26th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
on that note, I’m outta here for a little while
later gents!
March 26th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
RaiderDogg, all of us are standing for something. Yet you only gave props to the guy who stood for christianity.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
hey back to football,
Any of you guys read walterfootball’s mock draft? They really blasted teh Raiders but they have us taking Geno Adkins DT from Georgia. You guys like this guy?
March 26th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Actually the American auto industry declined because other foreign companies like Toyota were making a cheaper and better product.
All things change.
Right now Ford is making a pretty damn good product while Toyota Corolla’s are being recalled because they won’t start and Toyota Priuses are being recalled because they won’t stop.
They’d like to fix that Prius problem but they can’t catch ‘em.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
rockstar, you can find comparisons in fictional books to almost anyone.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
RRS, one question for you. Jesus taught using parables – fictional stories – yet many evangelicals refuse to admit that the Bible may not be 100% factually accurate. Isn’t (according to Jesus’ example) the true meaning of the Bible meant to be derived from the SPIRIT behind the written word? Or do you believe there was one actual prodigal son, etc?
March 26th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
OK, everyone, AIG has gotten all of his political views out, so he wants us all to stop and talk football again. Do what he says, now.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
MR
My praise had nothing to do with Christianity. I have praised you in the past for some of your beliefs, such as your penchant for such words as “rube”
March 26th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
RealMadden,
After 8 years of Bush, people were just excited that both candidates could articulate complete sentences. Everything Obama had going for him in 08 is essentially gone. You don’t get to vote “present” anymore as the president.
We’ll see.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
The Raiders suck. There, I said it. Now, on to distractions that actually make me smile.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
The Raiders suck. There, I said it. Now, on to distractions that actually make me smile.”
Please tell me that you just snapped into a Slim Jim and said oooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhh!
March 26th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Rockstar,
I never came across anyone in whom the moral sense was dominant who was not heartless, cruel, vindictive, log-stupid, and entirely lacking in the smallest sense of humanity. Moral people, as they are termed, are simple beasts. I would sooner have fifty unnatural vices than one unnatural virtue.
-Oscar Wilde
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This so reminds me of you. You take racist potshots at me everyday, now you’re quoting the bible. Too funny.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Trade DMAC for a Slim Jim!
March 26th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
raiderdogg, if your praise had nothing to do with Christianity, why did you only give props to the guy “standing up” for Christianity? Everyone in here is standing for something, and I’m standing up for far more than the word “rube”.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
“rube”
“redneck”
“inbred idiot”
March 26th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Yes, I AM SAM, Americans were happy to have two candidates with brains. Yet Obama still won in a landslide.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
if the shoe fits, brit.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Do you guys ever wonder if other NFL teams have fans/blogs where such deep intellectual discussion occurs? Is there something about Raider fans that attract the type of characters we see here daily? MR, that includes you so don’t get all flippant and dismissive…you would never find such a crowd on a Kings blog.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Ol Al needs a couple of Slim Jims! oooooooooooooooo yheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeea!
March 26th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
MR
Please tell me you aren’t serious. If you said something like “I believe in Satanism because it works for me and fuk all of you that don’t understand” I would have said the same thing to you.
I was just trying to give someone props for standing up for what they believe in, in the face of adversity. That is admirable in my book, regardless of what said belief is.
Try not to take things so seriously. I praise you for your utter disdain for all things Al Davis. Respect.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Prez’s checklist:
Nobel Peace Prize, check
Ended Recession, check
Reduce Troops in Iraq, check
Roll up Taliban, check
Passed Health Care Reform, check
Nuclear Arms Treaty, check
March 26th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Bo you’ve been talking about politics all day. I’ll tell you another thing that’s exclusive to Raider blogs…complete hypocrisy and denial of self perception. Raider fans think the Raiders are good, first of all. They think Al Davis is smart. No other team’s fans would stand by their owner after failing this bad. Then you have fans who try to pass political talk off on others, when they’ve been doing it all day themselves. Same ass backward mindset.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
RaiderDogg, everyone in here is standing for something. Everyone. Almost all of the time. Yet the first time you give props to someone for standing up for their beliefs, it just so happens to be someone who’s standing up for Christian beliefs.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
OMG, Beyonce is pregnant!!!!!!
March 26th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
…Raider fans think the Raiders are good, first of all. They think Al Davis is smart….. lol, who the fk has a problem of perception? Hey MR, Snap into a Slim JIm! yeeeeeeeah!
March 26th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
MR
Not the first and it certainly won’t be the last. I apologize if I offended you and I am disappointed that my intentions were misconstrued.
What do you believe in?
March 26th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
If you like then you should have put a rubber on it….
March 26th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Macho Man…I forgot all about him. I forgot all about him 20 years ago. Nice alter ego. Do you still have Poison in your tape deck?
March 26th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Dogg, don’t get all victimy on me now. You couldn’t offend me if you tried. Just pointing out the fact that everyone in here is standing for something, yet you only gave props to the bible freak.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Of course Al Davis is smart.
Like many I love Al Davis and the teams he’s built.
Right now though, Al should be smart enough to figure out that at eighty, like most everyone else, he can’t do it all himself anymore.
A
March 26th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
OMG, Beyonce is pregnant!!!!!!”
Kell you dog!
March 26th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Did you know Randy Savage’s real name is Rando Poffo, and him and the wrestler “Leaping Lanny Poffo” are brothers? You remember, the guy who used to read poems sitting down in his corner before matches?
March 26th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
What team he built, EnglandRaider? You mean teams Ron Wolf and Jon Gruden built?
March 26th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Do not do as the wicked do or follow the path of evildoers. Avoid their haunts. Turn away and go somewhere else, for evil people cannot sleep until they have done their evil deed for the day.
Proverbs 4:14-15
sounds like MR, no?
^^^^^^^^
Sound like the Bushs’, Cheney, Rumsfield, Rice, Rove Scooter Libby and most the evil GOP!
LOL
March 26th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
“Randy Poffo”, not “Rando Poffo”, btw.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
What the hell is wrong with the blog?
That posted before I finished.
Are you reading A? We know you read Jerry’s blog.
Hire a GM Al.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Oh well. It was fun to think of Mcnabb as the Raiders QB but it doesn’t appear likely.
Back to the reality of Gradkowski as the starter.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
MR
Victimy?
Man something is getting lost in the translation. I was just apologizing to you cuz you are clearly all butt hurt that I praised a guy for standing up for what he believed in.
Don’t worry I will give you props one day big guy…
March 26th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
We have to see if Beyonce’s little one comes out looking like Joe Camel.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 6:26 am
Q: Fullback?
A: Marcel Reece is there and Luke Lawton is there and then we’ll see.
-David White (SF Gate)
***
“We’ll see” gives me some reason for hope.
sign Brad Hoover and/or draft John Conner !!!
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Noooo, we need to protect John Connor or else the machines will take over. Duh!!
March 26th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Well I am out for a while. Going to take my kid out on the water and enjoy this amazing day.
Later Nation
March 26th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Time to go and play poker for me.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Dogg, don’t do this. Don’t start making me feel like I beat you up and took your lunch money. I hate it when you do this.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
I’m really not into wrestling. I saw a youtube of Macho Man recently, and laughed so hard tears came out. I decided to take his name for a while just to honor his performance!
March 26th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Jay Z’s got 100 problems, now.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Dogg, don’t do this. Don’t start making me feel like I beat you up and took your lunch money. I hate it when you do this.”
lmao
you should continue writing comedy, you are clearly a natural. Respect.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Al Davis probably is dumb enough to waste a pick on a f’in fullback. LOL!
March 26th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Did you know Randy Savage’s real name is Rando Poffo, and him and the wrestler “Leaping Lanny Poffo” are brothers? You remember, the guy who used to read poems sitting down in his corner before matches?
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I heard once that Brutus “the barber” Beefcake was also Hulk Hogan’s brother, but they didn’t look alike.
The scary thing about all those 80’s wrestlers is that most of them of dead. Too many steroids and powerslams.
Jake the snake, iron shiek, etc. and a ton of the other are six feet under now.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Beyonce’s denying it. How many rumors are Raider fans going to start this week?
March 26th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
How can you post a report like this and then not follow up the next day??
IMO – Bad trade, McNabb finds ways to lose the big game, I question his heart.
Vick would be a better option, he has more to play for, and more talent, and we could most likely get him for less.
In My Opinion.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
See you later gents. Make it a good weeked! oooooooh sheaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
March 26th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
I should try comedy? That’s it, Dogg? I can’t get props for standing up for what I believe in? Oh..that’s right. I have to be a Christian to get that kind of approval from you.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
I’m really not into wrestling. I saw a youtube of Macho Man recently, and laughed so hard tears came out. I decided to take his name for a while just to honor his performance!
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Dude, the best part of the macho man’s act was the Beautiful Elizabeth. She was hot. Google her.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Northern D, I ran across some website a few years back that had a list of dead wrestlers. Junkyard Dog is dead. So is Big John Stud, I think, too. A lot of them. And most of them for steroid related things.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
I heard once that Brutus “the barber” Beefcake was also Hulk Hogan’s brother, but they didn’t look alike.
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Hulk Hogan doesn’t even look like himself!
March 26th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
MR
dammit I am trying to leave yet I can’t walk away from this conversation for some unknown reason.
The only thing that I know you believe in is your writing, so I praised you. I am unaware of any thing that you truely believe in except your complete hatred of Al Davis and your penchant for writing. I have given you props for both.
Now then, I am really going to leave. Have yourself the best day that you can and look into the Kebra Negast…
March 26th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Elizabeth…lol. She looked kind of older. late 30s-ish. Not a bad gig. She probably tried the acting thing, wound up getting a shot with WWF playing a wrestler’s girlfriend.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Dogg, I’ve been standing up for a lot more than my writing today. But whatever it was, it wasn’t as worthy of your props as Christianity was. But go ahead and keep pretending you’re not at least intimidated by the Christian Right, thinking you have to praise them every time they “stand up” for their fictional beliefs. I’ve been expressing beliefs in real, actual things today. Not a word of praise from you. Just you mocking my writing, saying I really don’t believe in anything other than comedy? WTF? I see how it is.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
My friend had that Elizabeth poster with the nice cleavage shot.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Big John Stud wrestled like he was dead. No big loss.
Saw a documentary on Andre the Giant. Unreal. The guy was massive. Ate an unreal amount of food everyday. Too bad he never played NT.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
NortherD…uhh….you do know it’s fake, right?
March 26th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
lmao
OK MR I can dig it, thanks for the laughs bro. Honestly. We are actually more alike than you probably care to admit.
I appreciate your sense of humor and irony, no BS.
OK dammit I am really leaving, I promise. Keep holding it down MR.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
MR
I almost forgot, I put you on the guest list for the East Bay Sick show on April 9th at Pine Street in Livermore…
March 26th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
NortherD…uhh….you do know it’s fake, right?
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I’m not listening
I’m not listening
I’m not listening
I’m not listening
I’m not listening
March 26th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
RaideDogg, would you just stfu with my sense of humor and irony? I resent your labeling me as some kind of entertainer. F…k you!!! I’ve been standing up for things today that are far more real than the fictional b.s. you gave props to raiderrocktard for standing up for.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
What’s with the “I’m not listening” stuff? You criticized Big John Studs’ wrestling ability, NorthernD. Do you know it’s fake? Is that what you dont’ want to hear? That wrestling is fake? OMG We can add people who think wrestling’s real to the Raider Nation too, Bo.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
I have to get lunch. Goodbye. You guys are really getting on my nerves today.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
“ESPN’s Sal Paolantonio reports that the Eagles might have no choice but to move McNabb. Paolantonio reports that league sources believe the Eagles wanted too much for McNabb, that several interested teams have moved on, and that no one currently is willing to give up more than a third round pick.”
Normally this wouldn’t be worth paying attention to, but SalPal is one of the few remaining real professionals at BSPN, and has a lot of credibility when it comes to the NFC East, and Philly in particular.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
NorthernD Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 6:26 am
Q: Fullback?
A: Marcel Reece is there and Luke Lawton is there and then we’ll see.
-David White (SF Gate)
***
“We’ll see” gives me some reason for hope.
sign Brad Hoover and/or draft John Conner !!!
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Noooo, we need to protect John Connor or else the machines will take over. Duh!!
^^^^^^^^^
LOL! Protect John Connor DAMMIT from the machines!!
March 26th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
Next you’ll say there’s no Santa Claus or Easter bunny. Or say the Raiders don’t have a chance at the Superbowl next year…
Dream crusher!!!
March 26th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
I have heard former Niner GM Scott McCLoughan can’t be hired on to another team until AFTER the Draft!
I think old loony man Al will definitely talk to him and try to hire him to be the main personnel guy.
The old man really has no choice but to hire him, since he would probably be the only GM/Personnel guy willing to come here! LOL
March 26th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Bo,
Hulk Hogan and Brutus The Barber Beefcake were close friends…they worked out together 4 or 5 days a week at Gold’s Gym in Northridge back in the late 80’s early 90’s.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
DKnight007,
I think it’s that NFL rule that you can talk to another’s team’s personel if it’s for a higher position. I don’t think there’s anything higher than GM for the Raiders.
March 26th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Oh…Oh….Palin is spreading her legs again and blabbing about nothing again….catering to the lowest common denominator of the country which are the IDIOTIC racists or warped neo right wing Republicans who are full of greed!
March 26th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Thanks johnnylama,
That question has been bothering me since the 80’s. I will be able to sleep at night now.
Now if I can only figure out how they get caramel inside a Cadbury milk bar…
March 26th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=paolantonio_sal&id=5030358
Just in case anybody’s interested in football today.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Northern D… Scot McCloughan wouldn’t be the GM in Oakland. He might run the personnel department (if there is one), or oversee scouting and personnel and be an advisor to the owner, but no way he’s a GM here.
We have one already, and I don’t think he’s quitting his job.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
LMAO @ MR getting mad because we don’t believe he stands for anything. There is a gaping chasm between his self-image and our well-reasoned view of him. When he looks into said chasm he gets all sphincticious (fancy term for butt hurt).
March 26th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
johnnylama Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Bo,
Hulk Hogan and Brutus The Barber Beefcake were close friends…
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No one enjoys injecting their own ass.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Bo,
I would whether not know why you are so familiar with fancy terms for Butt Hurtin’.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Dakota Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Bo,
I would whether not know why you are so familiar with fancy terms for Butt Hurtin’.
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Sorry, didn’t mean to cause a flare up of your rectitus.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
And MR made the same whether/rather mistake again today. Poor guy is untrainable.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Rockstar,
I never came across anyone in whom the moral sense was dominant who was not heartless, cruel, vindictive, log-stupid, and entirely lacking in the smallest sense of humanity. Moral people, as they are termed, are simple beasts. I would sooner have fifty unnatural vices than one unnatural virtue.
-Oscar Wilde
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This so reminds me of you. You take racist potshots at me everyday, now you’re quoting the bible. Too funny.
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Saying you’re a racist scumbag isn’t taking racist shots at you, Blubberbutt.
Saying you play the race card for every little pathetic slam you receive also is not playing the race card, pops.
YOU pointing out others point out that YOU are racist, is, in fact, playing the race card.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
So you people are going to tell me you would give up nam. one of our biggest strengths and best players for a washed up crapy qb who wont make a difference cause he sucks just like russel without a line.watch the playoff game they lost he was pathetic stood there with the ball and got sacked and rushed he could not do nothing.If he came to the raiders he would do the same.We need a running qb.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Hot Shot Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
So you people are going to tell me you would give up nam. one of our biggest strengths and best players for a washed up crapy qb who wont make a difference cause he sucks just like russel without a line.watch the playoff game they lost he was pathetic stood there with the ball and got sacked and rushed he could not do nothing.If he came to the raiders he would do the same.We need a running qb.
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No way, unless Samuel is included in the deal…then hell yes. Keep all our draft picks, get a good corner back and QB in return?
I don’t know why the Eagles would do that deal though…they would basically just be getting a slightly (maybe) better CB.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Just heard on the radio that McGloughan left, by mutual consent, because apparently he has a severe drinking problem, and that he had shown up at meetings drunk, missed meetings, and embarrassed the team at the combine.
Add that to the rumors that he got caught fooling around with a woman in the Niners front office, where his wife found out and filed for divorce and custody, prompting him to try and salvage the relationship.
Rumor Mills…keeps the pundits busy.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Eagles absorb Nnamdi’s contract?
No way.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
johnnylama Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Bo,
Hulk Hogan and Brutus The Barber Beefcake were close friends…they worked out together 4 or 5 days a week at Gold’s Gym in Northridge back in the late 80’s early 90’s.
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Ed Leslie aka Brutus was injured in a parasailing accident in 1990 and had 100 metal plates put into his skull and face. He and Hulk were known as the Boulder brothers when they first started. Leslie also worked as a manager at Planet Fitness in Tewksbury, Massachusetts but was fired, when he was caught masterbating in the VIP room. Must have been steroid caused. LOL
March 26th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
McGloughan was supposed to be one of the better GM’s, was he not?
Thats one reason Al doesnt like having one. He figures he can screw things up just as well as paying someone.
How many sure fire, no miss GM’s are there?
Same with coaches. I would say Dungy and Tuna would be sure fire hires. Maybe you can throw cheatachek in with them but I am not so sure.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
If I worked for Jed York I’d probably have a drinking problem, too. And I don’t drink.
Working for Al would be no picnic, but at least he’s really a football guy and not some goof pretending to be one.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Yes, for those who don’t know, wrestling is scripted. OK, don’t get mad for busting your bubble, but don’t worry, the Easter Bunny will come and Santa is working on next years toys.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
You fellas were talking economics in here. I thought you might like some economics of handguns.
Glock torture test
http://theprepared.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90&Itemid=40
March 26th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
yeah dakota but mcnabb wouldnt be that big of an upgrade he dosent fit with the raiders ol.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Come to think of it most everything is talked about in here except NASCAR & guns.
Why is that? lol never mind, I think I know
March 26th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
I like this trade as long as there are no draft picks involved.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
How is Andrew’s Mom these days, now that the kid has moved back home?
March 26th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
I would think McNabb would be licking his jolly chops at the thought of airing it out for Al for millions of dollars in the twilight of his career, but what do I know
March 26th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Hot Shot Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
yeah dakota but mcnabb wouldnt be that big of an upgrade
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I think I peed my pants.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
wow Ricky, Scot McCloughan “reportedly” did all that?
even if all of it was true, Al Davis probably wouldn’t care. Cable is “reportedly” a guy with a history of violence towards women who assaulted a fellow coach in the film room by breaking his jaw. The only way this guy loses his job is if the Raiders start slow and have no shot at the playoffs (example: started last season 2-7 with Russell at QB before he was yanked)
Davis & McCloughan have a relationship that goes way back and there is mutual respect there. Al also has a good relationship with Parcells, Millen, Madden, etc. That doesn’t mean he’s gonna ask them for help or hire them to help the franchise.
I wonder what it’ll take for Al Davis to hire a GM? clearly 7 years of losing wasn’t enough. How many 11+ loss seasons can he endure? Is it possible for a man so obsessed with winning to become content with losing?
March 26th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Real Madden are you retired or living on your inheritance.You were posting a 3:30 last night and you started at 10 this morning.Besides Al dying or retiring(which he won’t).What make you a HAPPY Raider fan.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
—”Sources tell Yahoo’s Charles Robinson that the Raiders are “in front right now” in the pursuit of Donovan McNabb. NFL Network’s Jason La Canfora also believes that Oakland is the favorite to land McNabb. “And I’m told they will NOT require an extension to get a deal done,” Robinson adds. The Raiders were swindled for a future first-round pick by New England in last summer’s Richard Seymour deal, with Seymour in a contract year. McNabb is also in the last year of his deal. We’d say Al Davis wouldn’t make the same mistake again…but these are the Raiders”—
March 26th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Sorry, What would make you a HAPPY Raider fan??
March 26th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
ok If you want the same crap thats happening now just put mccrap in there we will see who will be laughing.He will get sacked rushed and play like he did in the playoffs and the eagles have a better ol.Mcnabbs career is going and he cant run good anymore.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
yo Kirk & Hot Shot.
I’ve compiled a list of players that Jerry Mac posters want to draft. Richochet has compiled one for who you think he actually will draft.
please cast your votes!
March 26th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
Hot Shot Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
yeah dakota but mcnabb wouldnt be that big of an upgrade he dosent fit with the raiders ol.
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What? Our OL…like o-line? Well I hold out hope that the o-line will be addressed in the draft…
But that is what I thought last year too….
March 26th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
Plunketthead Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
McGloughan was supposed to be one of the better GM’s, was he not?
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He’s been there for years. What has he done? Other than Patrick Willis, they have a ton of lst round busts or underperformers.
March 26th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
so far …
RaiderRockstar: Dan Williams (03/18)
RaiderResurrection: Dan Williams (03/18)
SnB offense defense specialteams: Dan Williams (03/18)
Inonewordraider: Dan Williams (03/18)
Ottocrat: Dan Williams (03/18)
Florida Pete: Dan Williams (03/18)
RNOraiderFan: Dan Williams (03/21)
Al DAVIS HAS COJONES: Dan Williams (03/21)
Thec07: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
DKnight007: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
The Big Banana: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
LA to TheBay: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
HairyBush: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
Ryan: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
Ghost to the Post: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
Raider O: Ndamukong Suh (03/19)
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder: Ndamukong Suh (3/19)
R8eray: Ndamukong Suh (3/19)
Memo: Ndamukong Suh (03/19)
Seymour Bush: Ndamukong Suh (03/19)
Jonesy941: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
SteveAlford21: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
GG: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
JB: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
RaiderLen: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
RaidingTexas: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
Mcfaddenswaggon: Ndamukong Suh (03/21)
Bcz24: Ndamukong Suh (03/22)
Bo Schembechler Jackson: Ndamukong Suh (03/22)
Stoopidmike: Ndamukong Suh (03/22)
504 Raider: Ndamukong Suh (03/22)
MaineRaida: Ndamukong Suh (03/23)
CJ Legend 34: Ndamukong Suh (03/24)
909RaiderLifer: Brian Price (03/19)
DMAC: Rolando McClain (03/18)
Richochet: Rolando McClain (03/18)
Severeraiderz: Rolando McClain (03/18)
Raiderglory34: Rolando McClain (03/18)
Vegas Raider: Rolando McClain (03/19)
New Englandraider: Rolando McClain (03/22)
Maddenraiderfan: Rolando McClain (03/24)
Senior Beeecham: Kyle Wilson (03/19)
Silvernblack209: Taylor Mays (03/19)
1234567: Taylor Mays (03/22)
Scottish Raider: Eric Berry (03/21)
GMoney8: Eric Berry (03/21)
No Mas Diamante: Eric Berry (03/25)
Edward Teach: Maurkice Pouncey (03/21)
Raiderzmaverick: Russell Okung (03/18)
KoolKell: Russell Okung (03/18)
Hwnrdr: Russell Okung (03/19)
RaiderFanFrom Jersey: Russell Okung (03/22)
Chris in NY: Russell Okung (03/24)
RaiderDogg: Russell Okung (03/24)
Hellsbells: Anthony Davis (03/18)
Jhill: Anthony Davis (03/18)
408RAIDER: Anthony Davis (03/19)
Stabler76: Anthony Davis (03/22)
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL: Anthony Davis (03/23)
Dakota: Anthony Davis (03/19)
M Lonetree: Anthony Davis (03/22)
NorthernD: Trent Williams (03/20)
Midwest Fan: Trent Williams (03/22)
El Tato: Trent Williams (03/18)
Raiders4eve: Trent Williams (03/18)
Nnamdi21: Trent Williams (03/18)
The Judge: Brian Bulaga (03/18)
SD_Raider_619: Brian Bulaga (03/19)
PassTheCheetos: Bruce Campbell (03/21)
Buckeyeraider: Mike Iupati (03/18)
Burque Raider: Mike Iupati (03/21)
La Milicia Negra: Mike Iupati (03/23)
RaiderDebo: Dez Bryant (03/18)
SharkCatcher: Dez Bryant (03/18)
Plunketthead: Ryan Matthews (03/19)
SATANFEARS ALDAVIS: Jimmy Clausen (03/18)
The Real MaddenRaider: Tim Tebow (03/18)
March 26th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
I wrote a nice rant about Andrews moms kid before I realized you were talking about the football player.
I was suprised when he could not get on with the pats but real suprised that he cant play at all.
He might have enjoyed a nice career as a backup if Art had not beat him half to death before Kiff stabbed him in the back.
Than again maybe he just never was NFL QB material,
March 26th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Dakota,
Here’s a good article for you:
http://license.icopyright.net/user/viewFreeUse.act?fuid=NzY1NDA2Ng==
March 26th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
# Plunketthead Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
You fellas were talking economics in here. I thought you might like some economics of handguns.
Glock torture test
http://theprepared.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90&Itemid=40
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Wow…guy definitely has a pension for abusing his sidearm.
Didn’t have to go through all that…Glocks are known for taking abuse and still performing. Even Glock says you don’t have to clean it each time, where many, if not most guns, and all rifles, you do
My Glock 19 has never misfired…
Of course, I’ve never packed it in sand first, lol..for some odd reason
March 26th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Alameda_Lee:
please cast your vote(s) too!
March 26th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
It warms my old Raider loving heart to see Al make big moves to get us back to the Stuporbowl.
McNabb would be BIG.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Many pro football players were wrestlers in the off season. Ernie Ladd, Steve McMichaels, Lawrence Taylor,
Reggie White, Ed “Wahoo” McDaniel, Bill Goldberg,Kevin Greene, Bill Fralic and Harvey Martin of the Cowboys beaten by Andre the Giant at WM 2 and Bronko Nagurski.
Great Money to be made in sports entertainment.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Al always gets washed up or bench warmer type players for the ol and expects good play from the Qbs.thats screws up the running game too.Gee they wander why they cant do nothing on offense.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
Plunketthead Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
McGloughan was supposed to be one of the better GM’s, was he not?
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He’s been there for years. What has he done? Other than Patrick Willis, they have a ton of lst round busts or underperformers.
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Dumbass…I told you before…you can’t discuss the Raiders..don’t try and discuss the Niners.
Ever hear of Gore? Only led the NFC in rushing.
Every hear of Crabtree?
Oh..LOL..that’s right..you also stated that you GUARANTEED that Crabtree wouldn’t sign, that Al Davis KNEW Crabtree would not sign, and that Crab would go back into the draft next year…another one of your head up ass comments, OakDork.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
The chances of us getting Ndamakung Suh, are remote.
Outlook of us getting Watdafuk! Whoo?, remain high….
March 26th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
LOL @ 909!
Agreed…
March 26th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
I think we should get suh but if he goes off the board take the best ol thats on the board we need help on both OL and DL.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Hey Assmuch. How’s Alex Smith doing? How’s about Jason Hill? They are looking to replace Joe Staley. Kentwan Balmer another lst rounder is about to get cut. Shawntae Spencer a 2nd rounder can’t get on the field. And those are ALL high draft choices. Wack-o you NEVER know what you are talking about. Take up a new hobby, this one is not getting it done for you.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
I have had a few fancier ones but I my old 17 always goes into my manpurse when I leave the compound.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
LIST OF WHO YOU THINK AL WILL ACTUALLY PICK,
FOR WHATEVER REASON..NOT who you want, but what direction you predict Al is going to go..can make sense, can make no sense whatsoever.
No guts, no glory. Don’t say LATER that you “knew he was going to get him” if you don’t predict it in advance.
If you do, the punishment is you have to have Kelli be your realtor in your next realty deal.
That will teach you
Obviously feel free to change your pick.
Richochet: Taylor Mays
Real Madden Raider: Tim Tebow
RaiderRockStar: Bruce Campbell
Raider O:
DMAC: Eric Berry
RaiderDogg: Bruce Campbell
SteveAlford: Bruce Campbell or JPP. *to be determined*
InonewordRaider: Dan Williams
Dakota: Taylor Mays
RaiderNsuede: Joe Haden
GG: Jason Pierre-Paul
Buckeyeraider: Bruce Campbell
Maddenraiderfan: trade up and get Suh
JHill: Pierre Paul or Iupati
March 26th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
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# La Milicia Negra Says:
January 28th, 2010 at 11:54 am
if we could get back in the 1st round, trade DMAC and a 3rd and get a 1st round pick, then I would take McClain AND Mike IUPATI, I like these Samoans and I like his long arms..
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RRS, please change my date on your list to jan 28th… =)
March 26th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
thanks Hot Shot. got you down
Kirk & Alameda_Lee: I still need your votes bretheren
March 26th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Al is gonna take Dez Bryant….
March 26th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
How’s about David Baas wack-o? How is he doing? And hasn’t Thomas Clayton actually led the Whiners in rushing the last two seasons? Wack-o you HAVE TO TRY to be this STUPID. No one could be as stupid as you naturally.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
According to Yahoo Sports’ Charles Robinson…
From my sources, Oakland is in front right now with the McNabb pursuit. And I’m told they will NOT require an extension to get a deal done.
This came 4 hours ago.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
First round busts scatter the landscape. They are everywhere. I dont claim to be a football guru but the niners seem to be on the verge of turning that same corner as the Raiders. I think they have the makings of a decent team and Singletary is making them man up to each other on and off the field.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
please change my date on your list to jan 28th
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LMN: on my list you have picked Iupati on 03/23
on 01/28 it looks like you wanted McClain first …
change your pick to McClain (01/28) then ???
March 26th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
For what it’s worth I think he will take Bruce Campbell
March 26th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
# Plunketthead Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
I have had a few fancier ones but I my old 17 always goes into my manpurse when I leave the compound.
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Almost got a 17, but the 19 seemed the right size, overall. Tad bit smaller, let me put it in a pocket, if need be.
Can’t beat Glocks for field stripping, that’s for sure.
5 seconds apart, 8 seconds back together.
Now…cleaning my black powder muzzleloaders?
I only wish it was that easy, lol…cuz dammmmnnn
March 26th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Al is gonna take Dez Bryant….
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alright E. who would YOU pick ?
March 26th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
There will be no 1st round pick on the OL or DL…. gauranteed….
March 26th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
McClain
March 26th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
I think he will take Bruce Campbell
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alright JWB. who would YOU pick ?
March 26th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Keep going with your idiot list, SeymourOakglen…then I’ll school your sorryass…again…still…for fun.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Can I change my pick?
I am thinking about going for Tebow if we cant get McNabb.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
You have no idea who any of those players are do you wack-o? But I bet you can make up a pretty good three bean salad. Uhoh, here comes your step dad to tell you to sweep up the garage and empty the cat box again. Only do it right this time.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Come on wack-o why stall?
March 26th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
LIST OF WHO YOU THINK AL WILL ACTUALLY PICK,
FOR WHATEVER REASON..NOT who you want, but what direction you predict Al is going to go..can make sense, can make no sense whatsoever.
No guts, no glory. Don’t say LATER that you “knew he was going to get him” if you don’t predict it in advance.
If you do, the punishment is you have to have Kelli be your realtor in your next realty deal.
That will teach you
Obviously feel free to change your pick.
Richochet: Taylor Mays
Real Madden Raider: Tim Tebow
RaiderRockStar: Bruce Campbell
Raider O:
DMAC: Eric Berry
RaiderDogg: Bruce Campbell
SteveAlford: Bruce Campbell or JPP. *to be determined*
InonewordRaider: Dan Williams
Dakota: Taylor Mays
RaiderNsuede: Joe Haden
GG: Jason Pierre-Paul
Buckeyeraider: Bruce Campbell
Maddenraiderfan: trade up and get Suh
JHill: Pierre Paul or Iupati
Just win baby: Bruce Campbell
March 26th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
You’re just going to run away like you always do wack-o.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
plunk: you’d rather have Tebow than Matthews in Round 1 ???
March 26th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Richochet…
I’ll stick with Al picking: Watdafuk! Whoo?
March 26th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Ricky:
Raider E thinks Al Davis will draft Dez Bryant (see post # 840)
March 26th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
I was trying to be funny RR
March 26th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Why not tell us about Shawntae Spencers career wack-o? School me. How’s about Kentwan Balmer? David Baas? Alex Smith? These picks make Al Davis look like Bill Polian.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Prez’s checklist:
Nobel Peace Prize, check
Ended Recession, check
Reduce Troops in Iraq, check
Roll up Taliban, check
Passed Health Care Reform, check
Nuclear Arms Treaty, check
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Take money away from the hard working Americans, check
Give said monies to the weak, lazy, DRAGS of society’s underbelly, check
Take incentives away from the hard working, to keep on working hard, check
Incentives the Lazy, weak, and low life’s that are currently draining the system to keep it up, check
Can we drain it……….? Yes we can
March 26th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Oh, and hello all. It is good to see many of you still here.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Is McClain to slow for Al? He did take over the Tides defense as a true freshman….
March 26th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
whats up Henry?
who do u want in Round 1?
1 player bro
March 26th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
# Raider E Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Is McClain to slow for Al? He did take over the Tides defense as a true freshman….
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No. And yes. And he won a national championship as the key cog in that defense. Sounds like Al’s type of guy to me.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Oakglen..you have zero credibility because you’re a lying ass piece of crap cross posting fool.
Yeah, POS..everyone sees your idiot takes about ‘bought a house at 19″..oh…uh…”had a hit rock band at 18, that’s how I bought a house”..everyone KNOWS YOU ARE OAKGLEN. EVERYONE KNOWS YOU ARE CAPTAIN BLACK. Everyone knows you have a dozen handles that you ALWAYS USE..
Hell…look at the dozen NEW NAMES ON THIS BOARD IN THE LAST 2 WEEKS…and yeah, fool, most know some are yours, lol.
and no one cares about your insignificant cross posting ass…because you’re a liar..and a fool.
The band?
What? Nothing?? lol…thought so.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
The chances of us getting Ndamakung Suh, are remote.
Outlook of us getting Watdafuk! Whoo?, remain high….
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ROFL!!!
March 26th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
McClain is the pick without question, i will be very disappointed if Al picks anyone else….
March 26th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
# 909RaiderLifer Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Richochet…
I’ll stick with Al picking: Watdafuk! Whoo?
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lol…uh..okee dokey…
of course, if a better choice comes along…holla
March 26th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
No, wack-o we HAVE PROVEN you to be a lying, hyporcrite who can’t get a date. THOSE ARE THE FACTS. Anything else wack job? Got something lined up for tonight? It is Friday night after all.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
LIST OF WHO YOU THINK AL WILL ACTUALLY PICK,
FOR WHATEVER REASON..NOT who you want, but what direction you predict Al is going to go..can make sense, can make no sense whatsoever.
No guts, no glory. Don’t say LATER that you “knew he was going to get him” if you don’t predict it in advance.
If you do, the punishment is you have to have Kelli be your realtor in your next realty deal.
That will teach you
Obviously feel free to change your pick.
Richochet: Taylor Mays
Real Madden Raider: Tim Tebow
RaiderRockStar: Bruce Campbell
Raider O:
DMAC: Eric Berry
RaiderDogg: Bruce Campbell
SteveAlford: Bruce Campbell or JPP. *to be determined*
InonewordRaider: Dan Williams
Dakota: Taylor Mays
RaiderNsuede: Joe Haden
GG: Jason Pierre-Paul
Buckeyeraider: Bruce Campbell
Maddenraiderfan: trade up and get Suh
JHill: Pierre Paul or Iupati
Just win baby: Bruce Campbell
909 Raiderlifer: Watdafuk! Whoo
March 26th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
did you just run away and hide again Wack-o? Got a date lined up for tomorrow night? It is Sat night after all.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Also trade for Mcnabb, sign Mawae, shuffle the oline a bit, and as that fat Mrs. piggy looking fuk Tom Cable would say, “let it rip”
March 26th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Raider E…Dez Bryant, or McClain that you think Al will pick?
Not who you want him to pick, but for list 2, it’s who you think Al is actually going to take…
March 26th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
whats up Henry?
who do u want in Round 1?
1 player bro
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Wat up RR, I’d mot wany Suh, but I think it will be Campbell.
I say trade down, pick Campbell late in the 1st, and with the with the othe pick get Tony Pike.
Where is 4Eva?
March 26th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Trent Williams
March 26th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Oh geez..you going to start with your juvenile 6th grade level idiot smack, again, Oakglen?
Your sorry ignorant ass comes on….SEE…YOU ARE ONLINE, POSTING, AND IT’S A SATURDAY NIGHT, AND YOU START SAYING ‘HAHA YOU CAN’T GET A DATE’???
You honestly don’t see how dumb that is?
Ok…let me dumb it down for YOU…YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT ON A DATE IF YOU ARE ONLINE WONDERING WHO ELSE ISN’T ON A DATE…lol…you freaking crap for brains.
And what part of I’M MARRIED confuses you?
I have kids…when you have kids…YOU DON’T HAVE THE LUXURY OF GOING OUT EACH NIGHT ON THE WEEKEND, you fool.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Richocet: Put me down for Maurkice Pouncey
March 26th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Alameda_Lee & Henry.
got your picks down
thanks guys!
March 26th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
# Alameda_Lee Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Trent Williams
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That your pick on who you want, or who you think Al will take?
March 26th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
LIST OF WHO YOU THINK AL WILL ACTUALLY PICK,
FOR WHATEVER REASON..NOT who you want, but what direction you predict Al is going to go..can make sense, can make no sense whatsoever.
No guts, no glory. Don’t say LATER that you “knew he was going to get him” if you don’t predict it in advance.
If you do, the punishment is you have to have Kelli be your realtor in your next realty deal.
That will teach you
Obviously feel free to change your pick.
Richochet: Taylor Mays
Real Madden Raider: Tim Tebow
RaiderRockStar: Bruce Campbell
Raider O:
DMAC: Eric Berry
RaiderDogg: Bruce Campbell
SteveAlford: Bruce Campbell or JPP. *to be determined*
InonewordRaider: Dan Williams
Dakota: Taylor Mays
RaiderNsuede: Joe Haden
GG: Jason Pierre-Paul
Buckeyeraider: Bruce Campbell
Maddenraiderfan: trade up and get Suh
JHill: Pierre Paul or Iupati
Just win baby: Bruce Campbell
909 Raiderlifer: Watdafuk! Whoo
BoJacks: Maurkice Pouncey
March 26th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
BoJacks: you think Al Davis will actually draft Pouncey or you just think that he should?
March 26th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Well, it’s gotta be between Taylor Mays and Bruce Campbell for who Al will pick. I’m going with Campbell.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
# Henry Lawrence Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Where is 4Eva?
==========================
Short version: Posting when he can, where he can, to stay in touch..usually at library, for time being.
Would like for you to send him a new laptop, ASAP.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Richochet Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
LIST OF WHO YOU THINK AL WILL ACTUALLY PICK,
******************
Bulaga, or Campbell
Ok, Campbell
March 26th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Richoshyt,
Al will pick Bruce Campbell causing me to be pissed off until training camp
March 26th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Watdafuk! Whoo will be picked in the 2nd round.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Your all wrong the pick will be McClain, Kirk`s 3rd round tender makes it obvious
March 26th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
LIST OF WHO YOU THINK AL WILL ACTUALLY PICK,
FOR WHATEVER REASON..NOT who you want, but what direction you predict Al is going to go..can make sense, can make no sense whatsoever.
No guts, no glory. Don’t say LATER that you “knew he was going to get him” if you don’t predict it in advance.
If you do, the punishment is you have to have Kelli be your realtor in your next realty deal.
That will teach you
Obviously feel free to change your pick.
Richochet: Taylor Mays
Real Madden Raider: Tim Tebow
RaiderRockStar: Bruce Campbell
Raider O:
DMAC: Eric Berry
RaiderDogg: Bruce Campbell
SteveAlford: Bruce Campbell or JPP. *to be determined*
InonewordRaider: Dan Williams
Dakota: Taylor Mays
RaiderNsuede: Joe Haden
GG: Jason Pierre-Paul
Buckeyeraider: Bruce Campbell
Maddenraiderfan: trade up and get Suh
JHill: Pierre Paul or Iupati
Just win baby: Bruce Campbell
909 Raiderlifer: Watdafuk! Whoo
BoJacks: Maurkice Pouncey
Big Banana: Bruce Campbell
March 26th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
# Richochet Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
And what part of I’M MARRIED confuses you?
I have kids…when you have kids…YOU DON’T HAVE THE LUXURY OF GOING OUT EACH NIGHT ON THE WEEKEND, you fool.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What part of “get a baby sitter” is too hard for you to mentally grasp? Shoot wack-o you are here all day every day, and here on Friday and Saturday nights all night. You must be some great catch! Your wife must think you are the greatest thing since, well, since they invented the trash can.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
LIST OF WHO YOU THINK AL WILL ACTUALLY PICK,
FOR WHATEVER REASON..NOT who you want, but what direction you predict Al is going to go..can make sense, can make no sense whatsoever.
No guts, no glory. Don’t say LATER that you “knew he was going to get him” if you don’t predict it in advance.
If you do, the punishment is you have to have Kelli be your realtor in your next realty deal.
That will teach you
Obviously feel free to change your pick.
Richochet: Taylor Mays
Real Madden Raider: Tim Tebow
RaiderRockStar: Bruce Campbell
Raider O:
DMAC: Eric Berry
RaiderDogg: Bruce Campbell
SteveAlford: Bruce Campbell or JPP. *to be determined*
InonewordRaider: Dan Williams
Dakota: Taylor Mays
RaiderNsuede: Joe Haden
GG: Jason Pierre-Paul
Buckeyeraider: Bruce Campbell
Maddenraiderfan: trade up and get Suh
JHill: Pierre Paul or Iupati
Just win baby: Bruce Campbell
909 Raiderlifer: Watdafuk! Whoo
BoJacks: Maurkice Pouncey
Big Banana: Bruce Campbell
Henry Lawrence: Bruce Campbell
exlaraiderseasonticketholder: Bruce Campbell w/impending PO’ed until June
March 26th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
# Richochet Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
And what part of I’M MARRIED confuses you?
I have kids…when you have kids…YOU DON’T HAVE THE LUXURY OF GOING OUT EACH NIGHT ON THE WEEKEND, you fool.
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I thought you ran your own business and had “tons” of employees working underneath you, allowing you to be here trolling all day and all night. Biz must not be that good if you can’t afford to take your wife out to Wendy’s once a year.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Asomugha’s representatives deny that he’s part of McNabb trade talks
Posted by Mike Florio on March 26, 2010 5:36 PM ET
With the rumors and the reports whizzing around Philly and other NFL cities regarding possible destinations for Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb, the tip we received last night gained some traction when ESPN.com’s Len Pasquarelli reported that the Raiders are willing to include cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha in a deal for Donovan.
So while discussing that specific wrinkle with our buddy (and WVU alum) Mike Gill of 97.3 ESPN in Atlantic City, Gill mentioned that Charles Robinson of Yahoo! Sports had been on the show earlier in the day, and that Robinson said Asomugha’s representatives claim that the Pro Bowl corner would not be part of the deal.
But here’s the thing. If he’s going to be traded to Philly, Asomugha will be the last to know, finding out only after the deal is done. Any other approach easily could prompt the usually quiet Asomugha to come unglued, realizing that there’s a door leading out of the Black Hole, and that it’s slightly ajar. So the Raiders have no choice but to tell Asomugha and/or his people that Asomugha will not be traded, up until the moment that it’s time to bid him adieu.
Otherwise, the Raiders would have the same problem that the Eagles currently have with McNabb.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Just more of the bogus BS lies wack-o thinks he can perpetuate on the blog. Sucks to be you wack-o. Gotta go.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Richochet:
Raider E thinks Al Davis will draft Dez Bryant (see post # 840)
March 26th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
# Richochet Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
And what part of I’M MARRIED confuses you?
I have kids…when you have kids…YOU DON’T HAVE THE LUXURY OF GOING OUT EACH NIGHT ON THE WEEKEND, you fool.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What part of “get a baby sitter” is too hard for you to mentally grasp? Shoot wack-o you are here all day every day, and here on Friday and Saturday nights all night. You must be some great catch! Your wife must think you are the greatest thing since, well, since they invented the trash can.
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Again, you’re a freaking idiot, and a liar.
go post my post times for this week, head up ass cross posting loser…
then apologize to everyone for being dumber than cotton.
How’s that hit band at 18?
Yeah…thought so LIAR.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Thanks Rock
March 26th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Nnamdi has a NO TRADE clause in his contract. Only will be traded if he is paid off to waive it. What idiots are on the radio.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Wack-o-sheeits kids are on the playground. Another kid goes up to them.
“What does your dad do, kid?” they ask wack-o’s kids.
“Oh, our dad? My Mom says he’s a dead beat.” Wack-o’s kids reply.
The other kids just laugh.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
RaiderRockstar Says,
I think (and hope) they’ll go outside of the box and pickup someone to counter all of the 3-4 teams in the division. A good NG makes the 3-4 go, and the point of putting a fatty over the center is b/c the center is usually the weak link in an o-line (hence all the comments about never taking one early). I think the Raiders will try to counter this disadvantage by getting a potentially dominant pivot man. Plus, Al loves his history, wants to return to the “Greatness of the Raiders at the center position”…blahblahblah
March 26th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
Sorry. Above is meant as a reply to what you asked
March 26th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
The Big Banana Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Watdafuk! Whoo will be picked in the 2nd round.
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Odrick or Lamarr Houston
Odrick.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
# Richochet Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
# Richochet Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
And what part of I’M MARRIED confuses you?
I have kids…when you have kids…YOU DON’T HAVE THE LUXURY OF GOING OUT EACH NIGHT ON THE WEEKEND, you fool.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What part of “get a baby sitter” is too hard for you to mentally grasp? Shoot wack-o you are here all day every day, and here on Friday and Saturday nights all night. You must be some great catch! Your wife must think you are the greatest thing since, well, since they invented the trash can.
====================================
Again, you’re a freaking idiot, and a liar.
go post my post times for this week, head up ass cross posting loser…
then apologize to everyone for being dumber than cotton.
How’s that hit band at 18?
Yeah…thought so LIAR.
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What does any of that have to do with you not being able to afford a baby sitter? The only thing that makes sense is you are a complete Dead Beat Dad! Now, it all makes sense!
March 26th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
LIST OF WHO YOU THINK AL WILL ACTUALLY PICK,
FOR WHATEVER REASON..NOT who you want, but what direction you predict Al is going to go..can make sense, can make no sense whatsoever.
No guts, no glory. Don’t say LATER that you “knew he was going to get him” if you don’t predict it in advance.
If you do, the punishment is you have to have Kelli be your realtor in your next realty deal.
That will teach you
Obviously feel free to change your pick.
Richochet: Taylor Mays
Real Madden Raider: Tim Tebow
RaiderRockStar: Bruce Campbell
Raider O:
DMAC: Eric Berry
RaiderDogg: Bruce Campbell
SteveAlford: Bruce Campbell or JPP. *to be determined*
InonewordRaider: Dan Williams
Dakota: Taylor Mays
RaiderNsuede: Joe Haden
GG: Jason Pierre-Paul
Buckeyeraider: Bruce Campbell
Maddenraiderfan: trade up and get Suh
JHill: Pierre Paul or Iupati
Just win baby: Bruce Campbell
909 Raiderlifer: Watdafuk! Whoo
BoJacks: Maurkice Pouncey
Big Banana: Bruce Campbell
Henry Lawrence: Bruce Campbell
exlaraiderseasonticketholder: Bruce Campbell w/impending PO’ed until June
Raider E: Dez Bryant
March 26th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
# Richochet Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
# Richochet Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
And what part of I’M MARRIED confuses you?
I have kids…when you have kids…YOU DON’T HAVE THE LUXURY OF GOING OUT EACH NIGHT ON THE WEEKEND, you fool.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What part of “get a baby sitter” is too hard for you to mentally grasp? Shoot wack-o you are here all day every day, and here on Friday and Saturday nights all night. You must be some great catch! Your wife must think you are the greatest thing since, well, since they invented the trash can.
====================================
Again, you’re a freaking idiot, and a liar.
go post my post times for this week, head up ass cross posting loser…
then apologize to everyone for being dumber than cotton.
How’s that hit band at 18?
Yeah…thought so LIAR.
=====================================================
What does any of that have to do with you not being able to afford a baby sitter? The only thing that makes sense is you are a complete Dead Beat Dad! Now, it all makes sense!
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Child…YOUR HOMEWORK is to post my post times for the last week, including each evening…then you can apologize for your idiot take on me being here every day, and every night, all day, and all night.
But you won’t..BECAUSE YOU’RE A LYING ASS DOG.
Dude…YOU’RE SO FREAKING PATHETIC YOU WERE BUSTED WITH OVER 12 ACTIVE HANDLES..was because of YOU the blog went to registration…yeah, Oakglen…BECAUSE OF YOU AND YOUR IDIOT CROSS POSTING…which you’re still doing.
You’re a loser dude, nothing more.
And now you’re on the “can’t afford a babysitter”?? lol…WTF?
Deadbeat Dad? Don’t you…uh…actually have to NOT have your kids with you to be a deadbeat dad?
Again, now you’re getting pathetic..more so than usual
March 26th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
al will pick bruce cambell
i myself would like to see us get trent williams or move down and go after maurkice puncey
March 26th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
I think l will pick Dez Bryant. My pick is McClain
March 26th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
updated:
LIST OF WHO YOU THINK AL WILL ACTUALLY PICK,
FOR WHATEVER REASON..NOT who you want, but what direction you predict Al is going to go..can make sense, can make no sense whatsoever.
No guts, no glory. Don’t say LATER that you “knew he was going to get him” if you don’t predict it in advance.
If you do, the punishment is you have to have Kelli be your realtor in your next realty deal.
That will teach you
Obviously feel free to change your pick.
Richochet: Taylor Mays
Real Madden Raider: Tim Tebow
RaiderRockStar: Bruce Campbell
Raider O:
DMAC: Eric Berry
RaiderDogg: Bruce Campbell
SteveAlford: Bruce Campbell or JPP. *to be determined*
InonewordRaider: Dan Williams
Dakota: Taylor Mays
RaiderNsuede: Joe Haden
GG: Jason Pierre-Paul
Buckeyeraider: Bruce Campbell
Maddenraiderfan: trade up and get Suh
JHill: Pierre Paul or Iupati
Just win baby: Bruce Campbell
909 Raiderlifer: Watdafuk! Whoo
BoJacks: Maurkice Pouncey
Big Banana: Bruce Campbell
Henry Lawrence: Bruce Campbell
exlaraiderseasonticketholder: Bruce Campbell w/impending PO’ed until June
Raider E: Dez Bryant
30 Year Raider: Bruce Campbell
March 26th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
no our first pick will be cj spiller
March 26th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Al will pick Dez, I pick McClain Rick….
March 26th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
no we wasted our first pick last year on a reciever
March 26th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
The more I think about it….I can’t imagine Al Davis giving up his precious shutdown CB, which took him two decades and 25 picks to finally find, for a QB to replace his beloved Jamarcus Russell.
Trade a second rounder for McNabb and cut Russell to pay for McNabb’s salary.
Do it now Al!
March 26th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
# Richochet Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
And what part of I’M MARRIED confuses you?
I have kids…when you have kids…YOU DON’T HAVE THE LUXURY OF GOING OUT EACH NIGHT ON THE WEEKEND, you fool.
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I thought you ran your own business and had “tons” of employees working underneath you, allowing you to be here trolling all day and all night. Biz must not be that good if you can’t afford to take your wife out to Wendy’s once a year.
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That’s why you’re a failure in life, Oakglenn.
Never said I had tons of employees, liar.
What I did say is I choose where to be, and anyone running a business either runs it, or it runs you.
Guess you never learned that, did you?
that’s why you’re a loser, Captain Black…oh..I mean, Oakglen..Oh, I mean Seymour…oh…I mean…oh hell, who are you this week?
March 26th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
# Raider E Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Al will pick Dez, I pick McClain Rick….
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Thanks Raider E..already gotcha down
March 26th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
RMR is gonna owe me 20 bones when JRuss isn’t starting opening day too lol….
March 26th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
As I asked last year, if we do get Suh, who will have his back? Who as nuttts on our D?
March 26th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Were not gonna get Suh, so get over it….
March 26th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
when sam brafford doesnt go first dallas is going to move up in a trade with detroit then dallas is going to draft sam brafford making tony romo expendable and making him a raider
March 26th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Fuk that cornhusker Suh…we need a NT!
March 26th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
# Raider E Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
RMR is gonna owe me 20 bones when JRuss isn’t starting opening day too lol….
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Bad news for ya, E…RMR has the same credibility as Seymour/Oakglen does, which is none.
I also bet Real MaddenMoron on the above..but for a hundred. He stated he wasn’t going to pay up anyway, if he lost…so I wouldn’t waste my time with him.
He’s just an attention whore, begging for anyone/everyone to pat him on the head, kick him in the ass..whatever.
March 26th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
What do you guys think about trading Aso for another first rounder and getting Cody as well as McClain?
March 26th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
If McNabb is our QB next season I might draft Zack Miller in the second round of our FF draft! McNabb loves him some tight ends…well, you know what I mean.
March 26th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Raider E Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
What do you guys think about trading Aso for another first rounder and getting Cody as well as McClain?
++++++++
That wouldn’t happen. What would happen is Al would draft Haden @8 to replace Nnamdi, so instead of having a good player at #8 combined with Nnamdi we would have a raw rookie replacing Nnamdi and some late first round pick.
No thanks.
And please don’t say Al is okay with Routt and CJ as his starting CBs.
March 26th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
IF THEY TRADE ASO FOR A FIRST ROUNDER IT WILL BE A FIRST ROUNDER NEXT YEAR
March 26th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Yeah, Russell’s made an Pro- bowler out of Miler.
March 26th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Who?
March 26, 2010
The Raiders held a private workout with quarterback Sean Canfield (Oregon State), according to Aaron Wilson’s (Ravens Insider) twitter page.
Our View:The Raiders could use help at quarterback, and former first-round pick JaMarcus Russell is yet to show signs that he can effectively lead their offense as a starter. Canfield has good mobility and a quick release, which would come in handy as Oakland has a shoddy offensive line. He is projected to go late in the NFL draft.
March 26th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Dakota Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Fuk that cornhusker Suh…we need a NT!
************
True.
Any team, can draft any player, if they are willing to pay the price.
March 26th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Tony Pike in the 3rd.
March 26th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
I know it wont happen, just wanted to know what you guys thought of the idea? I already posted earlier that there will be no OL/DL picks in the raiders first round.
March 26th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Hey Krappy, you just get back from the Broker’s Tour?
I’m still interested in converting that sweet town home you’re listing into a horse stable. I’d just require you rip off a few of the walls and fill the downstairs with hay and we might have a deal.
Although I’m not sure if you’re too scared to close a deal anymore – did you beg Jhill to do that for you as well?
March 26th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
fat kidd Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
IF THEY TRADE ASO FOR A FIRST ROUNDER IT WILL BE A FIRST ROUNDER NEXT YEAR
++++++++++++
Really? Why? And why are you yelling?
March 26th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
I would take Tebow in the 4th.
March 26th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
but not before then
March 26th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Actually almost bought a Tebow jersey last year before he started with the mamas boy virgin stuff lol….
March 26th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
because they gave up their first round pick in 2012 for seymore
March 26th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Raider E Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
I would take Tebow in the 4th.
+++++++++++
Ah what the hell why not, the guy can’t throw the football, but at least it would be entertaining to hear stories of how he tried to bring his fellow Raiders to Jesus!
March 26th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
1st pick in 2011 for Seymour, right?
March 26th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
did somebody fart?
March 26th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
yeah 2011 sorry
March 26th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
who is your inside source Fat Kidd?
March 26th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
2010 or no deal? seems simple? what do you think of the idea was the question? Not why it wouldn’t happen….
March 26th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
well the only thing of value that al has to get him back in the first round next year is aso
March 26th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Any of you cool dudes know how to get milkshake stains out of a mink coat?
I just treated these Brazilian exchange student twins to their first taste of In-n-Out Burger and, since they don’t have straws in their native country, the idiots slopped strawberry shake all over their new duds when they tried to drink.
Hey Krappy, I’m sure you’ve had the same problem trying to get your doo doo stains out of KrappyWife’s tank tops, so let me know if you have any secrets.
Thanks, old dude!
March 26th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Senior Beeecham Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Any of you cool dudes know how to get milkshake stains out of a mink coat?
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Turn the coat inside-out, put it on with nothing else on underneath it and then….wait, that will just result in more stains….
Just shout it out.
March 26th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Put the coat in a fireplace for 10 minutes
March 26th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Any of you cool dudes know how to get milkshake stains out of a mink coat?
I’m sure Ja Marcus has it down pat.
March 26th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
And next time put a bib on your kids.
March 26th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
let it dry then paint it
March 26th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Oregon State quarterback Sean Canfield conducted a private workout for the Oakland Raiders this week .
March 26th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Raider E Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
What do you guys think about trading Aso for another first rounder and getting Cody as well as McClain?
^^^^^^^^^
That would be good….just as long they get an O-Tackle in Round 2.
March 26th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
What kind of cool dude would wear a mink coat that hos slobbered on?
Donate it to PETA and go shopping
March 26th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Who wears mink to In and Out burger?
March 26th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Hey Plunky, only 3 months until Baja!
Dude I’m thinking about issuing a parental waiver for all these blogger’s moms to sign. The last thing I need is a lawsuit on my hands from one of these internet dorks sticking a taquito in the wrong hole.
Know what I’m saying?
March 26th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Here is my idea.
Trade for Mcnabb, give them Asmough, Morrison and our 8th overall for Mcnabb, Asante and their 24th overall pick.
Draft OT Charles Brown for the 24th overall pick.
Draft DT MT. Cody for our second round pick.
Draft MLB Brandon Spikes for our third round pick.
Draft OG Mitch Pietrus for our 4th round pick.
Draft WR/KR Linoval Holliday for our fifth round pick.
Draft OT Ciron Black or C Eric Olsen for our 5th round.
Draft FB Matt Clapp for our seventh round pick.
Draft CB A.J. Wallace or Kevin Thomas for our seventh.
March 26th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Raider E, the real question is – Who WOULDN’T wear a mink to In and Out burger?
Now pay attention – as my official shrimp cocktail server, you’re required to do much more serving and far less question asking.
One day when you work your way up to be my assistant anchor cleaner, I may grant you a voice.
But for now, just concentrate on not spilling that imported cocktail sauce.
March 26th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
You like cock sauce beeech?
March 26th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
I never spill, I explode btw….
March 26th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Ain’t no woman in the world like my beeech….
March 26th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
See E, that’s why you’re one of my grunts and I’m the studly homie drinking the margs with the tanned exchange students.
Now I’m going stick you with hot tub scrubbing duty if you try to bring that lame brand of KrappyKell potty humor on my critically acclaimed Party Boat.
And if you have any siblings like yourself in need of agonizing minimum wage slave labor, have them shoot me their resumes. And it can’t be in crayon!
March 26th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
lol
Tell them to tell mom that Tim Tebow will be chaperoning.
March 26th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
That will seal the deal for you know whos permission slip
March 26th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
How old are these exchange students you speak of? Did you say potty?
March 26th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
My friends are all migrant farm workers btw….lol
March 27th, 2010 at 11:48 am
SteveAlford21 Says:
March 25th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
PriestTJ,
This reply is in regards to your post #230 on the “Report: Raiders inquire about trading for Eagles QB McNabb” thread.
“I understand your concern for Russell if McNabb comes here but what this does is buy him time to fully develope without having to turn things around here.”
So you’re saying that you admit that Russell isn’t near being ready to be a fulltime starter in the NFL.
“Especially with someone he can identify with.”
How exactly is it that JR can identify with McNabb moreso than with any of the veterans and coaches that we already have? As someone who calls out other people for racism that they never intended, you seem to have tipped your hand a bit on how you really feel there.
Okay now… here is the BIG one. Are you ready for it?
“This guy can come here and get us back to the big game in a hurry. Most certainly the playoffs”
You just ADMITTED that with a good quarterback, the rest of the Raiders team AS IS can make the playoffs in your opinion… and even went so far as to say “back to the big game in a hurry”!!! All your excuses, apologism, and lies to cover JR’s bad play have just been undermined by you trying to argue against the people who don’t want McNabb in Oakland. You just accidentally called out your own BS and showed everyone that deep down inside, you know that the supporting cast is good enough to win the WEAK AFC West if not for the horrible play that JR has shown us to date.
For the record, I hope that JR continues to do all that he needs to do to become elite and fulfill his potential. However, I have always taken issue with your excuses and lies. Didn’t you say that with a better supporting cast, JR would be a playoff QB? Didn’t you say that the lack of great supporting cast is what made JR look so bad and that he was far better than everyone says? … Yet NOW, you say that with a change at QB (brining in McNabb), we’re instantly a playoff team and within reach of the Superbowl! LMAO!!! You slipped up and showed your hand, TJ. You have admitted that you’re full of it and that you truly do know that Cable was right when he said that with better QB play, we’d have been in the playoffs… it just took having to defend another BLACK quarterback for you to come clean and show your true feelings. How’s it feel to be the one that proved that you’re a racist and blindly defended JR’s terrible play solely because you didn’t want him to lose his job to a white boy? You’re totally fine with a black man sending him to the bench to “develop,” though, aren’t you? LOL @ how you want JR to start immediately and say that it’s what he needs in order to develop when it’s Gradkowski who would start instead… but say the exact OPPOSITE is needed in order for JR to develop when it’s a BLACK quarterback instead of Grads.
Enjoy your hypocisy, you racist punk.
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