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Why McNabb is a bad idea

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, March 29th, 2010 at 8:12 am in Oakland Raiders.

On vacation last week, during which time it seemed by acclimation that it would be a good move for the Raiders to trade for Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb.

It was likened to a Rich Gannon move, picking up a respected leader in his 30s who would immediately upgrade the position and give the Raiders credibility where they need it most.

Check out McNabb’s career stat line and reputation as a winning player and it indeed seems like a no-brainer.

UPDATE: ESPN’s Adam Schefter is reporting the Raiders are the “team to beat” in regard to landing McNabb.

Without even getting into compensation, the McNabb as starter scenario isn’t ideal for the following reasons:

– Gannon came to the Raiders with young, fresh legs, the result of having spent a lot of time on the bench. McNabb somes in as a much older 33, having been sacked 357 times over the course of his career.

As a young buck, McNabb once rushed for 629 yards and had two other seasons over 460. He’s broken 100 yards over each of the last two years, but not by much.

Over the past five years, McNabb has played an entire 16 game season exactly once.

It’s conceivable the breakdown phase of his career is underway.

– For all the good McNabb did in 2009, remember his appearance in Oakland? Completed less than 50 percent of his passes (22 of 46), was sacked six times and hit many more times than that. Led the Eagles to nine points and lost to JaMarcus Russell.

At this stage of his career, McNabb simply doesn’t have the legs to escape a rush. Now imagine him playing behind a Raiders line which at the moment has as its starting tackles Mario Henderson on the left (faded down the stretch) and Khalif Barnes, backed up by Erik Pears, on the right.

Even if the Raiders draft a rookie tackle, there’s no guarantee he would start, and if he did, there would undoubtedly be some breakdowns during the break-in period.

And remember, the Eagles play a West Coast-style offense which emphasizes getting rid of the ball, while the Raiders want their receivers to run deeper routes.

– McNabb is due a $6.2 million roster bonus and $5 million in salary for the last year of his contract. If Russell is staying, that’s nearly $20 million tied up in two quarterbacks who can’t evade a rush as well as second-round tender Bruce Gradkowski.

With his age and contract status, McNabb is not the longterm answer to the Raiders problems. He’s a very expensive band-aid.

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  • RaiderRockstar

    awesome. thanks Neil

    I got you down now :)

  • RaiderRockstar

    BRB. gotta run to the other building

  • bcz24

    Can we draft JaMarshmallow again. I think he has been so steller as the official team weight gainer that he warrants another 1st rd pick AND another astonishingly large contract.

  • Thec07

    What Up NATION?????

    Rock, what up Brother? You need to start a new list Bro, the list of those who want mcnabb, and those tha dont. I will start by saying vote NO on mcnabb.
    we get him for 1 year, if we franchise him thats 20 million….

    We need to draft Dan Lefevour in the 4th. He is the ONE.

  • hwnrdr

    Morning Neilb,
    No problem…haha! Just for awhile I thought that I’d be the only one here…without 4eva having access and Dirt Lot disappearing (has anyone heard from him btw?)…its hard to start covo’s with myself LOL…
    But I see 408 is back regularly…so….
    Sad though, talking to myself in here for awhile is still better than jumping in the PM group!!!!

    With that siad…educate me since I have been out of the college ranks…who is Brian Price?

  • Thec07

    bcz24, with Mr. Davis calling the shots, he may be able to get that one done for you….

  • Thec07

    PM group has a lot of guys that have been arguing at each other for years. Goofy political views, the whole nine yards….It gets old real fast….

  • hwnrdr

    You know what? I’ll say Troy Smith at this time will probably be a better option than McNabb!!! Yeah, Donovan brings vet leadership, but…remember Jeff Garcia? Funny, last year during pre-season, his dad and his aunts and uncles tailgated right next to us. All of them had a Raider “Jeff Garcia” shirts and hats on…

  • Thec07

    Vote NO on mcnabb….

  • Thec07

    I like smith also for a 5, do that all day. He was the starter until he got sick flacco stepped in.

    If we dont take smith we need to draft Dan Lefevour in the 4th. He has “IT”….

  • bcz24

    Dont vote NO on McNabb!!!! We need to make as much noise as we can to bring him in… then Al will never want him!

  • bcz24

    If someone can get Kiffin to say HE would bring McNabb in that would be stellar.

  • http://www.safc.com/page/StadiumofLightDetail/0,,10281~1706060,00.html neilb

    Morning Hwnrdr…

    I know what you mean about 4eva! I used to scroll down until I saw his name saying good morning nation.

    Brian Price is a DT from ucla.

  • http://www.safc.com/page/StadiumofLightDetail/0,,10281~1706060,00.html neilb

    Why wouldn’t you want an old,expensive and worn-out player at the Raiders ?

  • bcz24

    Yeah about the PM crew… when I see them start posting I officially log of for the day… it turns to drivel sooo fast. Those guys are so bad they will actually flame you out for AGREEING with them. I just see them and know that no further useful information/meaningful insight will be showing up and I pack it in.

  • http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXj7I1RzLSE&feature=related exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Morning Nation!
    I say we do the McNabb deal. With what we save over the next 2 years by cutting JaLoser, Donovan makes sense. A HUGE(not weight wise) upgrade at QB, not having to pay but $3 mil to cut Russell vs $9 mil+ if we keep JaLoser. We can franchise McNabb next year and we become playoff contenders this year. Thought about this for days and finally have come to the conclusion, Go For It!

  • hwnrdr

    Can Price play NT? I don’t know…just toying around the idea. Rockstar said it a while back now…we need a NASTY NT!!!

  • http://www.safc.com/page/StadiumofLightDetail/0,,10281~1706060,00.html neilb

    Exla….

    That’s about the only way it would make any sense for me.However,I’d still keep the pick,draft on O-lineman and go with Grad.

  • http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXj7I1RzLSE&feature=related exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    JaLoser showed his lack of dedication to all last year. Give him his million per 100 lbs and cut his sorry ass!

  • Stabler76

    Motion Russell out and have him line up as an extra tackle or TE. Direct snap it to Bush or DMAC, and start the play from there.

    I always wished the Raiders would have done that with Marcus when Marc Wilson was QB.

    At least with Russell, the defense would have to run around him at TE or tackle.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ng4yHw2xk&feature=PlayList&p=E565EF0DE2F587FA&playnext= Raider75

    2009 Stats for McNabb
    14 Games

    QB Rating 92.9 (When is the last time a Raiders QB finished the season with a 90 or above QB rating?)

    Completion % 60.3

    Yards 3553 (HE MISSED 2 GAMES AND WAS LESS THAN 500 YARDS FROM A 4,000 YARD SEASON!)

    22 TD 10 INT

    I would take this over any QB on the roster right now.

  • http://www.safc.com/page/StadiumofLightDetail/0,,10281~1706060,00.html neilb

    Hwnrdr…

    Not sure.I don’t watch any college games,this time of year I try to read as many mock drafts and “expert opinions” as I can.

    From what I’ve read about Price the only thing against him seems to be his height ( 6ft 2″ ).

    A good player in the middle of the line,good team mate and a leader in the locker room and on the field.

  • jhill

    Some of you NO to McNabb cats are making some good points, but I’d ask you to consider this.

    Jamarcus Russell is NOT going to make 9 million dollars as a backup QB. If he doesn’t win the starting job, he will restructure of be cut. I think he and his agent are smart enough to restructure regardless of what Russell said before.

    If the deal include’s Nnamdi’s outrageous contract, then the $ is a wash. A Corner for a QB is a no brainer, right?

    I don’t know about that 2nd rd pick though. I’d be trying to push Nnamdi, Morrison, and a 3rd rd pick.

  • http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXj7I1RzLSE&feature=related exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Raider75,
    Not bad for a declining QB. At that rate, it would be 4 or 5 yrs until he declined to JaLosers ratings.

  • jhill

    Or if we straight up trade McNabb for our #2 then we need to trade down and take Mt Cody. I don’t think a guy like Ciron Black is going to last until round 3. We would need a lot of luck on our side.

  • http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXj7I1RzLSE&feature=related exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    It does not make sense to restructure JaLosers contract any longer as he is not capable of being a WINNING NFL QB, and his $’s would not count as a cap hit this year.

  • http://www.safc.com/page/StadiumofLightDetail/0,,10281~1706060,00.html neilb

    Off for some dinner.

    Have a great Tuesday everyone.

  • bcz24

    Desean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin are MUCH better receivers than Murphy or DHB

  • jhill

    There is NO WAY we can franchise McNabb next year. That would be a deal breaker for me. 20 million? I don’t think so. A 2-3 yr extension needs to be agreed upon BEFORE the trade is made.

  • http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXj7I1RzLSE&feature=related exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    I said the same thing about Seymour but the reality is you have to pay the piper. Applying the $6 mil+ saved by cutting JaLoser brings his real number down to an acceptable figure.

  • jhill

    Dez Bryant ran a 4.3 last week …

    LMFAO!

    McNabb to Dez ?????

  • http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXj7I1RzLSE&feature=related exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    I want to win NOW! I don’t want to be dealing with this again nextyear. Deal will be done or not by May 5th, when the “G” money has to be paid by the Eagles to McNabb. Get him in here for OTA’s.

  • jhill

    Seymour is not making 20 million.

    McNabb is not worth 20 million.

  • jhill

    RRS, if Dez Bryant runs a 4.3 at his pro day tomorrow, I’m changing my pick from Davis to him!

    Heck, if he runs a 4.4 I’m changing it.

  • jhill

    Dez Bryant, Chaz, and Murphy would be just the career break that a guy like Bruce Gradkowski would need. Gradkowski would be a pro bowler with those 3 plus Bush and DMAC out of the backfield.

  • RaiderRockstar

    LOL @ Jhill.

    fair enough. Is Dez Bryant actually going to run the 40 at his Pro Day tomorrow?

    his stock is pretty high right now. He’s a Top 10-15 pick. If he shows a poor 40 time and gets hurt, his stock drops big time. Many thought Crabtree was the best player in last years draft though and he ended up 10th overall … I guess you never know!

  • RaiderRockstar

    new post!

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  • http://www.raiderfans.net armyraider

    To Nnamdi21
    I find your political posts towards the beginning of this conversation entertaining. You claim to be neither Repub nor Dem, however you appear to strongly oppose all republican ideas. In post 180 when you were responding to HL you never seemed to actually give any counter arguments about how the democratic party are not doing those things, instead just attacked his opinion and comments.

    To the rest of the posters, I have to say i’ve never seen so much tension between similar fans. I seriously think that hardly anyone here would be willing to talk like they do on a forum face to face with another individual.

    Lastly, With all the mock drafts going on, is nobody considering drafting Ciron Black – LSU. He a OT who scouts believe would make a good OG, he’s a physical blocker who’s only downfall at OT was his feet.

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