Why McNabb is a bad idea
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, March 29th, 2010 at 8:12 am in Oakland Raiders.
On vacation last week, during which time it seemed by acclimation that it would be a good move for the Raiders to trade for Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb.
It was likened to a Rich Gannon move, picking up a respected leader in his 30s who would immediately upgrade the position and give the Raiders credibility where they need it most.
Check out McNabb’s career stat line and reputation as a winning player and it indeed seems like a no-brainer.
UPDATE: ESPN’s Adam Schefter is reporting the Raiders are the “team to beat” in regard to landing McNabb.
Without even getting into compensation, the McNabb as starter scenario isn’t ideal for the following reasons:
– Gannon came to the Raiders with young, fresh legs, the result of having spent a lot of time on the bench. McNabb somes in as a much older 33, having been sacked 357 times over the course of his career.
As a young buck, McNabb once rushed for 629 yards and had two other seasons over 460. He’s broken 100 yards over each of the last two years, but not by much.
Over the past five years, McNabb has played an entire 16 game season exactly once.
It’s conceivable the breakdown phase of his career is underway.
– For all the good McNabb did in 2009, remember his appearance in Oakland? Completed less than 50 percent of his passes (22 of 46), was sacked six times and hit many more times than that. Led the Eagles to nine points and lost to JaMarcus Russell.
At this stage of his career, McNabb simply doesn’t have the legs to escape a rush. Now imagine him playing behind a Raiders line which at the moment has as its starting tackles Mario Henderson on the left (faded down the stretch) and Khalif Barnes, backed up by Erik Pears, on the right.
Even if the Raiders draft a rookie tackle, there’s no guarantee he would start, and if he did, there would undoubtedly be some breakdowns during the break-in period.
And remember, the Eagles play a West Coast-style offense which emphasizes getting rid of the ball, while the Raiders want their receivers to run deeper routes.
– McNabb is due a $6.2 million roster bonus and $5 million in salary for the last year of his contract. If Russell is staying, that’s nearly $20 million tied up in two quarterbacks who can’t evade a rush as well as second-round tender Bruce Gradkowski.
With his age and contract status, McNabb is not the longterm answer to the Raiders problems. He’s a very expensive band-aid.
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March 29th, 2010 at 8:16 am
McNabb wasn’t going to come to Oakland ANYWAY! We need to work with the QB’s we got and hope Grads can win the job…
March 29th, 2010 at 8:17 am
2nd?
March 29th, 2010 at 8:18 am
Rosenfelds, Garbagekowski, Russell
All worthless.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:20 am
Can’t we just get a Q?
March 29th, 2010 at 8:26 am
Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!
March 29th, 2010 at 8:27 am
trade the walrus to Minny for Sage Rosenfels!
March 29th, 2010 at 8:28 am
Muahahaha… We couldnt trade Jalargeass to Minnesota for a lightly worn Brock Lesnar jersey.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:29 am
Thanks Jerry! You just gave Al Davis all the reasons why he should trade for McNabb.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:33 am
JaWalrus to Minnesota for a lightly worn Brock Lesnar jersey?
it’s worth a shot! do it grandpa al!
March 29th, 2010 at 8:37 am
Define “longterm” Jerry…McNabb gives us 3-5 good years where we can realistically expect to be a .500 team and consider playoffs as the youngsters mature. In that context, he is more than a band-aid.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:37 am
this sucks…
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-supremecourt-biletnikoffsdaughter&prov=ap&type=lgns
March 29th, 2010 at 8:38 am
Predicated, of course, on dumping that disgraceful fumbling menace who wears #20.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:40 am
I think out man coverage scheme will benefit from moving the umpire to the backfield. Our guys get picked off on crossing routes regularly.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:42 am
Predicated, of course, on dumping that disgraceful fumbling menace who wears #20.
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what about the disgraceful fumbling menace who wears #2 ???
March 29th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Draft offensive and defensive linemen and forget McNabb.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:47 am
WASHINGTON (AP) The Supreme Court won’t stop a man convicted of murdering the daughter of former NFL star Fred Biletnikoff from getting a new trial.
The high court on Monday refused to hear an appeal from California prosecutors, who had their conviction of Mohammed Haroon Ali thrown out by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.
Ali admitted strangling Tracey Biletnikoff, 20, on Feb. 15, 1999. He demonstrated for police in a videotaped interview how he did it – first with his hands and then with a T-shirt.
But the federal appellate court said prosecutors were improperly motivated by race when they dismissed the only two black potential jurors from the jury. Prosecutors have denied race was a factor in jury selection.
Jurors convicted Ali of first-degree murder rather than the lesser charge of manslaughter.
Tracey Biletnikoff met Ali in 1997 at a drug and alcohol rehabilitation program. They began dating a year later.
Ali had a history of violence, including a conviction for kidnapping and threatening to kill his former fiancee after she called off their wedding. But his nine-year sentence was suspended, and he was placed on probation with an order to complete drug treatment.
Ali is currently serving a 55 years-to-life sentence.
Fred Biletnikoff played for the Oakland Raiders for 14 years and is a member of the NFL Hall of Fame.
The case is Cate v. Ali, 09-894.
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Freddy B needs to watch that movie ‘Law Abiding Citizen’
March 29th, 2010 at 8:53 am
what about the disgraceful fumbling menace who wears #2 ???
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Um, pay attn pls. I was referring to a team QBed by McNabb. #2 would be no more than a JaMemory.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Gone but not forgotten: Philip Rivers is using the Chargers’ 17-14 loss to the Jets in the Divisional Playoffs as his motivation for this season. He is driving around with a decal of the final score from that game on the rear windshield of his truck.
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Someone should stick a “Three Bills” sticker to the walrus’ SUV.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:55 am
“Tracey Biletnikoff met Ali in 1997 at a drug and alcohol rehabilitation program. They began dating a year later.”
Should have stuck with on-line dating.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Bo why are you posting that discharger propaganda here?
March 29th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Man, are you guys still in hear hating on the big tank muscle bound Jamarcus Russell?
The guy went from over 300 lbs of fat to a rocked up 291, and there’s a problem?
He’s working with the renouned Eddie Anderson to get his lower body stronger and feet quicker.
The #1 QB coach out there in Paul Hackett has been working with him to get his mechanics right.
What’s the problem?
March 29th, 2010 at 8:58 am
In case you haven’t heard, the Raiders want to trade for Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb and, depending on the report, they will give up a first or a second rounder, or give up Pro Bowl cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, and so on.
The Raiders, of course, have said nothing as usual. Only, this team, for good reason. It’s against league rules to comment on players under contract with other teams.
Here are my quick thoughts on the whole idea …
Should the Raiders grab McNabb? Absolutely. He is better than their current three quarterbacks combined and it gives their offense instant credibility.
So what if he’s in the last year of his contract? So was Richard Seymour, and there were more than happy to apply the franchise tag in February to secure a second season.
McNabb would average the top-five salaries of NFL quarterbacks, which is a lot … but seeing they’d pay JaMarcus Russell $9.45 million next season, it sounds like a bargain. Better yet, they can cut Russell and just move on if that’s what they feel is necessary.
So what if McNabb doesn’t want to come to Oakland, as reported today? There is no no-trade clause in his deal, so he has no say. If the Raiders want a trade-and-sign deal (think DeAngelo Hall), then McNabb has a say, but only then.
Don’t tell me McNabb is too old. All he does is take the Eagles to the playoffs every year, and he’s no older than Rich Gannon was when he came and saved the Raiders.
Don’t tell me they can’t do without Asomugha, my favorite person on that team. They have proven to be able to go 5-11 or 4-12 with Asomugha, they will do no worse without him.
Cornerbacks don’t win games. They may lose games, but they hardly can win them — especially when locked onto one side of the field and avoided all day, like Asomugha is in this defense.
The Raiders defense stinks because they cannot stop the run. Their pass defense is wasted when teams just plow it up the middle.
If anyone deserves a chance to play for a regular playoff contender, it’s Asomugha, who has been here for the entire seven-year run of 29 wins and 83 losses.
Besides, if cornerback Stanford Routt is worth a first- and third-round pick tender, the Raiders seem to think they have a viable replacement if Asomugha is dealt.
Back to paying McNabb top-five QB money if tagged in 2011 … that’s exactly what they have to pay Asomugha next season if the team picks up his option. That’s top-five QUARTERback money, not cornerback money.
Contracts don’t get any huger than that. Davis made Asomugha the highest-paid NFL player in 2009 with that deal, but I hear from sources inside and outside the organization he’s been shopped him all offseason in hopes of getting out from under that contract. Davis wants value in return, and McNabb brings justifiable value.
Going back to Russell, at least he had no confidence to kill with these latest rumors. Davis wants to win now, as always, and if the McNabb talks are true, it shows he has indeed lost patience with his prized former No. 1 overall draft pick.
One last thing: I hear that Adam Schefter said today Russell weighed 290 pounds. Believe it. I mentioned earlier this week that, according to two league sources, Russell weighed well over the reported 271 pounds — and reports he trained in Arizona were way overstated.
If you want to know why the Raiders would have any interest in trading for McNabb, that’s a fantastic place to start.
FYI, Nnamdi’s deal is up after ‘11, can’t be franchise tagged again … why lose him for nothing if he can get McNabb?
-David White (SF Gate)
March 29th, 2010 at 9:00 am
408RAIDER Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Bo why are you posting that discharger propaganda here?
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I looked at it a reminder of a pleasant memory. 17-14 loss. Norv continues to Norv. Chargers perservere in their quest to remain untrophied.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:00 am
“One last thing: I hear that Adam Schefter said today Russell weighed 290 pounds. Believe it. I mentioned earlier this week that, according to two league sources, Russell weighed well over the reported 271 pounds — and reports he trained in Arizona were way overstated.”
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Russell is a POS, and the Raiders are a group of enabling fuksticks.
F-U Al Davis!
March 29th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Eddie Anderson had Russell working out hard this offseason….here is Russell doing squats!
http://paxarcana.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/fat_guy.jpg
Way to go Eddie Anderson!
March 29th, 2010 at 9:04 am
The political pinata of the day was Reid. A giant billboard in Searchlight, close to where Reid and his wife frequently share a booth for dinner at the Searchlight Nugget Casino, said “Will Rogers Never Met Harry Reid.”
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/03/28/MN0O1CLVC9.DTL
LOL!
March 29th, 2010 at 9:05 am
Ha!
I cant believe you guys trust Schefters source over Kawakamis source in regards to Russells weight.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:06 am
former “Saturday Night Live” star Victoria Jackson performed a song that described Obama as “a communist dictator who is taking us to hell.”
ouch!
March 29th, 2010 at 9:08 am
Jhill: no worries brother
I’m sure the trade rumors about McNabb & Rosenfels are completely off base
the Raiders are set at QB, unless you believe what Tom Cable said at the owners meeting …
March 29th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Hey Eddie Anderson, what exactly did you do for Russell this winter? Did you go on junk food runs for him? Maybe get his drinks from the bar for him? Did you empty his bed pan so he didn’t even have to leave the couch all winter?
WTF Eddie you POS!
March 29th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Be back later all. Gotta go distribute some leaflets for moveon.org.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:12 am
I cant believe you guys trust Schefters source over Kawakamis source in regards to Russells weight.
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Hilarious …
There was a shot at Schefter from someone from the Raiders last week saying that Russell had NOT changed his throwing mechanics. Schefter was the only one who mentioned throwing mechanics, lol.
Then a day or so later, here comes Schefter with his 291 blast. I just wonder what happened to Schefter’s sources who had just told him Russell had lost a bunch of weight and even changed his throwing mechanics?
March 29th, 2010 at 9:13 am
Eddie Anderson was a babysitter. nothing more
made sure he was working out and eating right.
came in weighing under 300 lbs
impressive work Eddie!
JaSloth is still 3rd on the depth chart until further notice …
March 29th, 2010 at 9:13 am
the Raiders are set at QB, unless you believe what Tom Cable said at the owners meeting …
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Ok, you got me …
What did he say at the owners meeting?
March 29th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Dakota,
You don’t think Russell getting down from 350 to 291 is impressive work on Eddie’s part?
March 29th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Hey Jerry, why don’t you try being a reporter for once and get some time with Willie Brown and ask him why he is a lying mother fuker?
March 29th, 2010 at 9:15 am
What’s up fellas. Long tine no holla. Good to still see some of the same names on here that I saw when I first started reading this blog way back when.
As much as I personally admire McNabb for what he’s done without any weapons outside of Brian Westbrook (until last year), this would be a bad move for him and us. We needto draft that kid Lefevour from the MAC conf. He’s got a legit arm and his speed will please Al at the same time.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Jhill: Cable himself said that Russell wasn’t working on his throwing motion or mechanics this offseason while away from the club …
and that makes sense. what in the world would Eddie Anderson know about a QB’s mechanics?
he was a safety in the NFL like 13 years ago!
March 29th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Quick heads up for you guys….
You watch who the raiders bring in for a meeting and you can get an idea of who they will draft..
Sean Canfield from Oregon State got in for a private workout. 6-4 215lbs with good mobillity and lefty too. Expected to be a 5th to 7th round draft. I say the Raiders will pick him up at the 3rd round.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Jhill: Cable himself said that Russell wasn’t working on his throwing motion or mechanics this offseason while away from the club …
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Where did you read that quote? All I read was Cable saying he’s doing everything that he is supposed to be doing.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:21 am
What did he say at the owners meeting?
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Q: Settled at quarterback at all?
A: That’s never been said.
Q: How critical to find that QB?
A: No. 1 deal.
Q: Any chance you’d pick up a veteran quarterback, maybe a McNabb or something, in the draft?
A: You never know.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:21 am
If your going to make a run for McNabb, why not wait until he is a FA next year?
Not like we will be missing out on a potential championship year in 2010.
Don’t be a moron Al!!!
March 29th, 2010 at 9:21 am
I hope Russell chokes on his next meal.
I hope Cable chokes on Fargas’ dik.
I hope Al chokes on his next ensure.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:23 am
vegas raider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:21 am
If your going to make a run for McNabb, why not wait until he is a FA next year?
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Come on Vegas, we all know that the only way a quality player will end up in Oakland is by way of indentured servitude. They will not sign here willingly.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Raiders @ Bradford’s pro day.. hummmm?
March 29th, 2010 at 9:24 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:06 am
former “Saturday Night Live” star Victoria Jackson performed a song that described Obama as “a communist dictator who is taking us to hell.”
ouch!
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Lame Republican propaganda from WHO?! Fat Vicky Jackson was a dumbazz bit player 20 YEARS ago.
I can’t believe how stupid people are who buy into Repub fear mongering. Get real.
VOTE INDEPENDENT.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Mornin Nation.
Dear President Obama:
You are the thirteenth President under whom I have lived and unlike any of
the others, you truly scare me.
You scare me because after months of exposure, I know nothing about you.
You scare me because I do not know how you paid for your expensive
Ivy League education and your upscale lifestyle and housing with no
visible signs of support.
You scare me because you did not spend the formative years of youth
growing up in America and culturally you are not an American.
You scare me because you have never run a company or met a payroll.
You scare me because you have never had military experience, thus
don’t understand it at its core.
You scare me because you lack humility and ‘class’, always blaming
others.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:28 am
To my Repub friends,
Do you know who came up with the idea of mandating insurance from everyone…not the Dems…it was the…drumroll…Republicans in 2003. the Link to their Senate Testimony is below. And here is a paragraph from that testimony.
“But as part of that contract, it is also reasonable to expect residents of the society who can do so to contribute an appropriate amount to their own health care. This translates into a requirement on individuals to enroll themselves and their dependents in at least a basic health plan – one that at the minimum should protect the rest of society from large and unexpected medical costs incurred by the family. And as any social contract, there would also be an obligation on society. To the extent that the family cannot reasonably afford reasonable basic coverage, the rest of society, via government, should take responsibility for financing that minimum coverage.”
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Testimony/Laying-the-Groundwork-for-Universal-Health-Care-Coverage
Nnamdi is right. Vote independent.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Henry Lawrence lol dont be scurred!
March 29th, 2010 at 9:30 am
RRS,
Reading bewtween the lines again?
Those comments tell me that we have a guy in Bruce Gradkowski what the coach likes, and a couple other guys who might give him a run for his money.
Of course we are not settled at QB, but I don’t see anything there that indicates we won’t pull a starter from the 5 guys we have now.
I think a lot of this is a lot of smoke! Shyt to drive blog hits up.
If this team addresses the right side of the line and DT, we are back in business!
March 29th, 2010 at 9:31 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:24 am
VOTE INDEPENDENT.
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Yeah, you are about as independent as Vegas Raider.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:32 am
If this team addresses the right side of the line and DT, we are back in business!
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Hell yeah!
March 29th, 2010 at 9:32 am
If Bradford is there at 8…….take him!
March 29th, 2010 at 9:32 am
Henry,
You do realize that this is a Raiders blog, lol.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:32 am
I don’t vote for or support every republican thing that comes up. they aren’t free from guilt.
I cast by vote based upon my own moral obligations & preferences.
However, I think there are many Barack worshippers (like Kell & MR) in here that support anything & everything he says. sad. I’d hate to know what it feels like not to think for myself
March 29th, 2010 at 9:33 am
If Bradford is there at 8, his shoulder is still fugged up and there is NO WAY we should take him.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:33 am
408RAIDER Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Henry Lawrence lol dont be scurred!
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Mornin 408, good to see ya still here.
I am Ascared!
March 29th, 2010 at 9:34 am
jhill Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:33 am
If Bradford is there at 8, his shoulder is still fugged up and there is NO WAY we should take him.
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Ur a doctor??
March 29th, 2010 at 9:35 am
You scare me because for over half your life you have aligned
yourself with radical extremists who hate America and you refuse to
publicly denounce these radicals who wish to see America fail..
You scare me because you are a cheerleader for the ‘blame America ‘
crowd and deliver this message abroad.
You scare me because you want to change America to a European style
country where the government sector dominates instead of the
private sector.
You scare me because you want to replace our health care system
with a government controlled one.
You scare me because you prefer ‘wind mills’ to responsibly
capitalizing on our own vast oil, coal and shale reserves.
You scare me because you want to kill the American capitalist goose
that lays the golden egg which provides the highest standard of
living in the world.
You scare me because you have begun to use ‘extortion’ tactics
against certain banks and corporations.
You scare me because your own political party shrinks from
challenging you on your wild and irresponsible spending proposals.
You scare me because you will not openly listen to or even consider
opposing points of view from intelligent people.
You scare me because you falsely believe that you are both
omnipotent and omniscient.
You scare me because the media gives you a free pass on everything
you do.
You scare me because you demonize and want to silence the
Limbaugh’s, Hannitys, O’Reillys and Becks who offer opposing,
conservative points of view.
You scare me because you prefer controlling over governing.
Finally, you scare me because if you serve a second term I will
probably not feel safe in writing a similar letter in 8 years
Ascared,
Workin Man.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:37 am
Jhill: here’s my original comment
“the Raiders are set at QB, unless you believe what Tom Cable said at the owners meeting”
pair that with post # 41
how is that reading between the lines?
please explain. seems pretty black & white to me …
Cable basically says we ARE NOT set at QB.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Dakota Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:31 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:24 am
VOTE INDEPENDENT.
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Yeah, you are about as independent as Vegas Raider.
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What does that mean?
March 29th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Sam Bradford will throw at his Pro Day today, right?
I guess we’ll find out!
March 29th, 2010 at 9:40 am
Ur a doctor??
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Used to be a gynecologist until me license got revoked.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:41 am
jhill Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:32 am
Henry,
You do realize that this is a Raiders blog, lol.
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No, I could not tell.
Why don’t you asplain it to me.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:42 am
BS: Some players prefer not to play for the Raiders. Do you care which team you’re with, as long as you get to play?
SR: You want to play for a team that has a chance to win a Super Bowl. That’s the point. That’s why I came here last year. This team is as talented as anyone in the NFL. Playing is great, but winning is even better. I love it here in Minnesota, and I hope to finish my career here.
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Biotch slapped by a backup QB…ouch.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:43 am
I’d hate to know what it feels like not to think for myself
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Sad state, really. And actually kind of scary when you consider how Hitler came to power. To think that there are people on both sides (Rep and Dem) that are so brainwashed to believe that anything their party does is gold. They eat up all the propaganda like a bunch of hungry pigs. Pathetic…We live in a world where the best commercial that strikes fear in the general population, wins an election.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:44 am
vegas raider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Dakota Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:31 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:24 am
VOTE INDEPENDENT.
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Yeah, you are about as independent as Vegas Raider.
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What does that mean?
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You don’t hide your true colors very well Vegas…you fall in line with the republicans. Don’t be afraid to admit it.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Where did you get that quote Dakota? That’s pretty sad if true. A friggin 3rd string QB is refusing a chance to start on this team. Wow.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:47 am
jhill Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:40 am
Ur a doctor??
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Used to be a gynecologist until me license got revoked.
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Nice..
March 29th, 2010 at 9:47 am
The Big Banana Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Where did you get that quote Dakota? That’s pretty sad if true. A friggin 3rd string QB is refusing a chance to start on this team. Wow.
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Somethin tells me he would jus be another Andrew Walter anyways…
March 29th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Cable basically says we ARE NOT set at QB.
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Different context RRS …
I think we are set as far as we don’t need to get distracted and bring in Rosenfels and the likes.
Not set IMO means Russell is not the defacto starter, nor is Gradkowski. Not we are trying to get McNabb or talk Warner out of retirement.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:48 am
does ANYBODY think the Raiders have a chance to win the Super Bowl this year?
I’m a huge Raider fan, but I’m also a realist …
I don’t think Sage Rosenfels was out of line by saying that!
March 29th, 2010 at 9:48 am
If, and its not very likely, but IF Bradford does make it past STL at 1 then he will NOT make it past Was and Shannarat at 4
March 29th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Sage would just be another barometer the Raiders would set to try to get more out of Jamarcus.
Basically, they would be saying, “Jamarcus you need to be better than Sage f’n Rosenfels. We are bringing him in so you can prove you are better than him. If not, it’s curtains.”
March 29th, 2010 at 9:50 am
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March 29th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Different context ???
the reporter flat out asked Cable if we would consider bringing in a vet like McNabb or drafting a QB
“you never know” means it’s a possibility
if he was content with a Bruce/Charlie/JaMarcus competition I’m sure he would have discounted that option, like when he called safety a “position of strength” or by saying that either McFadden or Bush will have to step up and become the starting RB.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Whatever Cable said, expect the opposite.
Remember the “Cadillacs” last year? We didn’t even draft one lineman. Talked up our young WR’s at the end of the year, than drafted 2 in our first 4 picks.
At this stage I expect them to draft a RB in the first 3 rounds, not get a QB, and draft Campbell at #8.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:56 am
The Big Banana Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Where did you get that quote Dakota? That’s pretty sad if true. A friggin 3rd string QB is refusing a chance to start on this team. Wow.
http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_14778645
March 29th, 2010 at 9:59 am
At this stage I expect them to draft a RB in the first 3 rounds, not get a QB, and draft Campbell at #8.
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Vegas: so basically you’re expecting a disaster draft like last year ???
at least Murphy & ShoNasty produced
somewhat… Murphy had 9 drops!
and Myers had a game winning strip & recovery on ST against Cincy!
March 29th, 2010 at 10:04 am
If we go O-line or Run D in the first round, I would look at a RB or DB being taken in Round 2.
Just don’t tempt Al with Javhid Best, that forty time to Al is like crack for him.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Just don’t tempt Al with Javhid Best, that forty time to Al is like crack for him.
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just the fact that Jahvid Best knows what “Raider speed” is, is alarming to me …
hopefully Best is a football player, not just an athlete
March 29th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Seems like every topic gets turned political, however I have to say most politicians are retarded, we have not picked a good president in a long long time.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:13 am
go Army!
who do you wants the Raider to draft in Round 1?
pick a player. any player
March 29th, 2010 at 10:20 am
I personally would love either Okung or Rolando McClain. I know everyone here seams pretty dead set on a tackle or DT. But IMO after Okung the talent isnt worth the pick. My defensive scenario would be Scott/Richardson, Seymour, Kelly, shaughnessy/Wimbley as our line, then have Morrison, McClain and Howard as our LB’s. I just have this feeling he’s the next Ray Lewis or something.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:22 am
JerryMAC, welcome back, hope your vacation did you good…
the rosenfels deal, i like it WAAAY more than donovan thing, at least Sage has the brains.. and it wont cost us much to get him…
March 29th, 2010 at 10:25 am
updated …
RaiderRockstar: Dan Williams (03/18)
RaiderResurrection: Dan Williams (03/18)
SnB offense defense specialteams: Dan Williams (03/18)
Inonewordraider: Dan Williams (03/18)
Ottocrat: Dan Williams (03/18)
Florida Pete: Dan Williams (03/18)
RNOraiderFan: Dan Williams (03/21)
Al DAVIS HAS COJONES: Dan Williams (03/21)
Thec07: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
DKnight007: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
The Big Banana: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
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Ryan: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
Ghost to the Post: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
Raider O: Ndamukong Suh (03/19)
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder: Ndamukong Suh (3/19)
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Memo: Ndamukong Suh (03/19)
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JB: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
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The Real MaddenRaider: Tim Tebow (03/18)
March 29th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Army: apparently you’re not alone
more Raider fans want MLB McClain than NT Williams now
but that could all change if all the dudes who voted for Suh gave us a different selection (I don’t think he’ll make it out of the Top 3 picks)
March 29th, 2010 at 10:32 am
the only way I could see Suh available at #8 is if 1 team thought McCoy was a better option than Suh. 2 QB’s are taken and all 4 OT’s
even still, if he slipped out of the Top 5, you can bet your sweet bippy that teams would be calling like crazy to trade up and grab him!
March 29th, 2010 at 10:39 am
trade Nnamdi to the Lions for their 1st & 3rd.
draft Suh at #2. draft Dan Williams at #8
trade Tommy Kelly for a 4th or 5th rounder…
build the O-Line with 5 picks in Rounds 2-4!
best Defensive line in football for the next 10-12 years
Raiders go 11-5 next year
March 29th, 2010 at 10:43 am
March 29th, 2010 at 10:39 am
trade Nnamdi to the Lions for their 1st & 3rd.
draft Suh at #2. draft Dan Williams at #8
trade Tommy Kelly for a 4th or 5th rounder…
build the O-Line with 5 picks in Rounds 2-4!
best Defensive line in football for the next 10-12 years
Raiders go 11-5 next year
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Who plays QB????
March 29th, 2010 at 10:43 am
BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) Tim Tebow’s pre-NFL Draft visit with the Buffalo Bills included a dinner with Hall of Fame quarterback Jim Kelly.
Kelly, who has talked up Tebow over the past few months, had dinner with the Florida quarterback on Sunday night, Kelly’s spokeswoman Tricia Cavalier said Monday. It’s unclear whether the dinner occurred before or after the 2007 Heisman Trophy winner met with the team.
Kelly was traveling and unavailable for comment. Kelly’s wife, Jill, first revealed the two had dinner in a post on her Twitter account Sunday night.
Bills coach Chan Gailey expressed interest in Tebow last week, saying he has “every tangible” you could ever want in a quarterback. Buffalo’s first two picks in the draft next month are No. 9 and No. 41.
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I feel sorry for Timmy if he gets drafted by Buffalo!
March 29th, 2010 at 10:45 am
Who plays QB????
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trade a 5th rounder for Sage Rosenfels and use the other 5th rounder on FB John Conner!
Sage/Bruce/Charlie/Danny/JaWalrus
may the best man win
March 29th, 2010 at 10:48 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:45 am
Who plays QB????
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trade a 5th rounder for Sage Rosenfels and use the other 5th rounder on FB John Conner!
Sage/Bruce/Charlie/Danny/JaWalrus
may the best man win
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Either way….Were not gettin Suh so…Theres alomst a 99.8% chance of your scenario not happening..
March 29th, 2010 at 10:49 am
Al Davis is probably going to draft some speedy undersized guy with good cover skills to play MLB.
he’ll probably weigh 60 pounds less than JaMarcus!
March 29th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Hey Duece, would love that. Only problem is Lions and Bucs play cover 2. More of a zone less man to man.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Either way….Were not gettin Suh so…Theres alomst a 99.8% chance of your scenario not happening..
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DD: I know that, it’s a pipe dream!
besides, if Al Davis did trade up to #2 he’d still take Bruce Campbell
March 29th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Great to have you back Jerry
Gotta love the mention of “Grads” by the first poster =D!
March 29th, 2010 at 10:54 am
what up Bong?
who do you want the Raiders to draft in Round 1?
pick 1 player. any player!
March 29th, 2010 at 10:55 am
is there any other team in the league whose starting QB outweighs their MLB by 60 lbs ???
March 29th, 2010 at 10:55 am
If Al takes a guy to play MLB, can the player AT LEAST played the position in college?
Enough with this moving OLB to the middle, Safeties into OLB, DE into OLB, and OLB into DE.
Enough already!!
March 29th, 2010 at 10:56 am
My daddy left home when I was three
And he didn’t leave much to ma and me
Just this old guitar and an empty bottle of booze.
Now, I don’t blame him cause he run and hid
But the meanest thing that he ever did
Was before he left, he went and named me “Suh.”
Well, he must o’ thought that is quite a joke
And it got a lot of laughs from a’ lots of folk,
It seems I had to fight my whole life through.
Some gal would giggle and I’d get red
And some guy’d laugh and I’d bust his head,
I tell ya, life ain’t easy for a boy named “Suh.”
Well, I grew up quick and I grew up mean,
My fist got hard and my wits got keen,
I’d roam from town to town to hide my shame.
But I made a vow to the moon and stars
That I’d search the honky-tonks and bars
And kill that man who gave me that awful name.
Well, it was Gatlinburg in mid-July
And I just hit town and my throat was dry,
I thought I’d stop and have myself a brew.
At an old saloon on a street of mud,
There at a table, dealing stud,
Sat the dirty, mangy dog that named me “Suh.”
Well, I knew that snake was my own sweet dad
From a worn-out picture that my mother’d had,
And I knew that scar on his cheek and his evil eye.
He was big and bent and gray and old,
And I looked at him and my blood ran cold
And I said: “My name is ‘Suh!’ How do you do!
Now your gonna die!!”
Well, I hit him hard right between the eyes
And he went down, but to my surprise,
He come up with a knife and cut off a piece of my ear.
But I busted a chair right across his teeth
And we crashed through the wall and into the street
Kicking and a’ gouging in the mud and the blood and the beer.
I tell ya, I’ve fought tougher men
But I really can’t remember when,
He kicked like a mule and he bit like a crocodile.
I heard him laugh and then I heard him cuss,
He went for his gun and I pulled mine first,
He stood there lookin’ at me and I saw him smile.
And he said: “Son, this world is rough
And if a man’s gonna make it, he’s gotta be tough
And I knew I wouldn’t be there to help ya along.
So I give ya that name and I said goodbye
I knew you’d have to get tough or die
And it’s the name that helped to make you strong.”
He said: “Now you just fought one hell of a fight
And I know you hate me, and you got the right
To kill me now, and I wouldn’t blame you if you do.
But ya ought to thank me, before I die,
For the gravel in ya guts and the spit in ya eye
Cause I’m the son-of-a-biotch that named you “Suh.’”
I got all choked up and I threw down my gun
And I called him my pa, and he called me his son,
And I came away with a different point of view.
And I think about him, now and then,
Every time I try and every time I win,
And if I ever have a son, I think I’m gonna name him
Bill or George! Anything but Suh! I still hate that name!
March 29th, 2010 at 10:57 am
former 3rd string QB for the Giants Jared Lorenzen weighed 275-285. I think …
March 29th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Breaking News:
Jamarcus Russell has check himself into the Melrose Institute:
http://www.parknicollet.com/eatingdisorders/
March 29th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Russell weighs as much as Desmond Bryant.
still want to start him at NT?
LOL!
March 29th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Suh sounds like tremendous value, but at the same time it seems like there is always some awesome young DT to be the next Sapp. I have been praying for the raiders to solidify their LB corps for some time. We have not had a hard nosed MLB for some time. Yes DT needs help, but I also think that part of that is due to the schemes. If we had a MLB with a nose for the ball he can plug up alot of those 4-6 yard holes RB’s have been receiving. I think personally between Suh and McCoy that McCoy would be the better option. We have loaded up on late round DE’s recently that can supposedly be pass rushers (also add in Wimbley). Kelly is supposed to be a 3 technique DT, so it seems that McCoy who i believe is regarded as the better run stopper would compliment our defense more.
Tackle is a position of need, but if Okung is off the board, I really wish for Davis to trade down to the middle/late portion for better value.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:00 am
or checked…..dayyyyum
March 29th, 2010 at 11:01 am
I love all the Jamarcus names! LOL!
JaWalrus
JaFatass
JaMemory
I lived in Baton Rouge and the people in Tigerland seem to think it’s not him because he is a great QB….and then I walk away shaking my head
March 29th, 2010 at 11:05 am
“OAKLAND RAIDERS
Pros: The Raiders have soured enough on underachieving JaMarcus Russell that he will have to compete with journeyman Bruce Gradkowski for a starting spot in training camp. Russell is set to collect almost $19 million in base salary over the next two seasons. The Raiders could cut ties and use that money toward a McNabb contract extension. Even for a franchise as dysfunctional as the Raiders, McNabb would make Oakland a legitimate playoff contender.”
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Come on Al, you cannot pay Russell $19 million over the next two season. You have to cut this fuk up, even if it means admitting Kiffin was right.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:08 am
season(s)….wtf I can’t type anymore!
March 29th, 2010 at 11:10 am
If he is so great, then have the kind folk of Baton Rouge come get him. JaLargest is on his way to cutsville
March 29th, 2010 at 11:13 am
The Greatness of Emperor jaMarcus Russellius can be weighed in many ways. 20 stone sounds about right.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Dakota,
how’s the blood pressure?
March 29th, 2010 at 11:14 am
JaBustus, JaBeefRoll,JaDummy,all can be added to your list. All rightfully earned.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:22 am
the open competition at QB makes me think of being given the choices of which kind of lethal torture one would prefer.
any way you look at JaFryeski it ain’t pretty.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:23 am
JaThargic, JaMarshmallow, JaMeatball… and oh so many more.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:26 am
I still say spend one 5th round pick, we have two, and bring in Troy Smith RFA, Ravens. He can run our offense. He, Gradkowski & Frey all play the same style offense. Unlike JaBustus, he could learn the entire playbook and make it work. Then draft DT, C, MLB, OT, OG, FB, RB, RB.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:28 am
trade our 1st, 3rd, darius heyward bey, and tommy kelly to the eagles for donavon mcnabb, asuntie samuel, ot, gaurd, and that rookie reciever they drafted that grew up in the colliseum
March 29th, 2010 at 11:28 am
McNabb is a year younger than Paton Manning and the same age as Tom Brady. With many QB’s playing to age 40 McNabb has at least 4 or 5 good years left.
McNabb is very good at throwing the deep ball as well as reading the D to take advantage of getting the ball to the right player.
He may not have won a Super Bowl but has got his team to the Playoffs and Championship Game many times. He also has done this many years with not having many weapons at receiver.
He may have ran more when he was younger but you always want a QB that can pass the ball and only QB’s that cannot pass are forced to run the ball like Vick.
If the Raiders can get him for not a real high cost and Russell is not going to pan out. McNabb would be a great option for 3 or 4 years while the Raiders try and find a young QB to bring along.
As weak as the AFC West is and has been, with McNabb the Raiders would have a good a shot as any in the AFC West. I say bring him in as long as you do not have to give up the store.
You have to go all the way back to Gannon when the Bay Area had a real QB in the area. It would be nice to see a real QB back in the area for a change.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:29 am
We are likely going to start from scratch with the playbook in Hue Jacksons image. Troy Smith might be a good candidate to have a head start on Hue’s offense. I say regardless of if we run the Colts playbook or the Madden 11 playbook, if JaStupid doesnt know the whole thing he doesnt play.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Draft:
1. Trade up – SUH or if no trade
1. Dam Williams DT
2. Maurike Pouncey C
3. Donald Butler MLB
4. Tony Washington OT
5. Nick Petrus OG
5B Trade for Troy Smith RFA,Ravens
6. John Conner FB
7. Alfonso Smith RB (4.38/40)
7B Denji Karim RB (4.40/40)
March 29th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Bcz24,
I don’t consider Russell to be stupid at all. He might not give a flying f^ck, but that is another issue.
How smart would a person have to be to want to play down after down behind Oaktown’s current O-line? Not very smart at all I’d say to risk life and limb.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:36 am
jacrybaby needs to be cut(PERIOD)
March 29th, 2010 at 11:39 am
I think trading for mcnabb is a mistake, but not because mcnabb cant get it done. Why trade for mcnabb when you can bring in culpepper for much less money, after all we are only talking about a vet that will come in and keep the seat warm while we bring no.2 along. Also dont trade namdi, although I dont think he is much of a leader, he is a very good corner, no doubt in the top 4. I say sign bring in pacman jones for a look, I think he could be a solid nickel guy, and return kicks.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:40 am
Henry Lawrence Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:35 am
You scare me because for over half your life you have aligned
yourself with radical extremists who hate America and you refuse to
publicly denounce these radicals who wish to see America fail..
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Proof?
Which radicals? The Republicans who are owned by multinational corporations? THOSE people are the real enemies.
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You scare me because you are a cheerleader for the ‘blame America ‘
crowd and deliver this message abroad.
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Wake up. It IS America’s fault. WE the people remember a-zz hole? WE allowed ourselves to be lied to and cowed into going to war over “WMD’s” that didn’t exist. We allowed oursleves to be lied to by REPUBLICANS who were raping the constitution and our coffers.
How’d it happen “scared” blind jerk o-ffs who refuse to use deductive reasoning in favor of fear mongering lies.
People like YOU are the reason we’re in this mess.
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You scare me because you want to change America to a European style
country where the government sector dominates instead of the
private sector.
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Yes, the “private sector” of multi national monopolies that poison our food supply for profit, who’s only decree is maximum short term profit.
Repubs rolled back 40 yrs worht of economic safeguards and Repubs raped us for it.
FACTS me lady. Deal.
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You scare me because you want to replace our health care system
with a government controlled one.
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Idiot. Our taxes ALREADY pay 41% of ALL medical cost in the U.S. because the majority of us can’t AFFORD medical care NOW and its getting exponetially worse. The entire system would collapse in 5 yrs if nothings done and YOU and those who are too stupid or CHOOSE to be blind follow hat in hand with the massive trillion dollar insurance / pharmacutical companies that lie and “scare” morons into allowing their cash cow to keep on keepin on at our peril.
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You scare me because you prefer ‘wind mills’ to responsibly
capitalizing on our own vast oil, coal and shale reserves.
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You don’t know what the he-ll you’re talking about.
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You scare me because you want to kill the American capitalist goose
that lays the golden egg which provides the highest standard of
living in the world.
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Baseless. The Repubs are the ones encroaching our freedoms and privacy. The REPUBS are the ones who slod their souls and are in colusion with massive monopolies that htreaten our countries freedom.
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You scare me because you have begun to use ‘extortion’ tactics
against certain banks and corporations.
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Yet Cheney and Bushes rape of the Constitution meant nothing at all?
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You scare me because your own political party shrinks from
challenging you on your wild and irresponsible spending proposals.
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Like the F’in war the Repubs started under false pretense? TRILLIONS moron.
More often than not its hateful people who simply dislike seeing money go to needy rather than to the wealthiest of the wealthy.
Sickening.
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You scare me because you will not openly listen to or even consider
opposing points of view from intelligent people.
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Yes, Bush was all about openness.
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You scare me because you falsely believe that you are both
omnipotent and omniscient.
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ha ha ha ha! Proof? Never mind whack job…
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You scare me because the media gives you a free pass on everything
you do.
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Yes, like FOX news.
unlike how the republican media completely dismantled Bush /Cheney…mm hmm…
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You scare me because you demonize and want to silence the
Limbaugh’s, Hannitys, O’Reillys and Becks who offer opposing,
conservative points of view.
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Republican propaganda and you’re too studid to realize it. For f’in shame. Its people like you who allow this type of goverment. GET REAL and do some unbiased home work would you instead of only acknowledging what you think supports your ridiculous and irrational cause.
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You scare me because you prefer controlling over governing.
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Redundant. Its the Repubs who massively expanded the alphabet agencies that currently spy on all of us.
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Finally, you scare me because if you serve a second term I will
probably not feel safe in writing a similar letter in 8 years
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I’M the one who’s scared. Scared that completely oblivious delusional idiots like yourself still exist. Whoa betide this country if clueless mor’ons like yourself hand power back to the dark side.
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You had your chance and your Repubs used it to f-u-h-k us all in the name of corporate greed.
Ascared,
Workin Man.
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Work on getting a clue.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:40 am
When Russell is on the field they’ll yell “deuce!” (like Deuce Staley in Philly or Deuce McAlister in New Orleans)
and when Gradkowski is on the field they’ll yell “Bruce!” (like Isaac Bruce in St Louis or Bruce Smith in Buffalo)
March 29th, 2010 at 11:42 am
mistic1: you want Culpepper & Pacman Jones in Oakland?
I think I’d rather have my wife kick me in the nuts wearing roller skates!
March 29th, 2010 at 11:44 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:13 am
go Army!
who do you wants the Raider to draft in Round 1?
pick a player. any player
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Russell Okung
March 29th, 2010 at 11:44 am
JB Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:26 am
I still say spend one 5th round pick, we have two, and bring in Troy Smith RFA, Ravens. He can run our offense. He, Gradkowski & Frey all play the same style offense. Unlike JaBustus, he could learn the entire playbook and make it work. Then draft DT, C, MLB, OT, OG, FB, RB, RB
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Unless Hue knows that Troy’s not the real deal. I like the kid and despite his short stature think he’s going to be a solid starter someday.
It would solve alot of problems except the embarrassment of having a 5th round DP starting over your #1 overall.
Then again, Gradkowski couldn’t make the roster of some of the worst teams in the League until falling to Oakland.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Henry Lawrence: Ndamukong Suh (03/26)
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do you want me to change your pick to Okung ???
March 29th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Henry Lawrence Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:44 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:13 am
go Army!
who do you wants the Raider to draft in Round 1?
pick a player. any player
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Russell Okung
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Politics aside, I’d have to agree. Fixing the line is priority with the 8th overall at least.
IF Okung falls that far, who knows? we should snap him up!
March 29th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Rockstar,
you sure that won’t be “Douche!” they’re yelling?
March 29th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Snag McNabb, draft one of the super tackles and we’re already better than last year.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:48 am
N21: you wanna stay with Trent Williams or switch to Okung?
March 29th, 2010 at 11:48 am
131. lol!
March 29th, 2010 at 11:49 am
you sure that won’t be “Douche!” they’re yelling?
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LOL!
quite possible. I meant “Deuce” as in turd, not the fact that he wears #2 on his jersey
also quite humorous that he picked such a #
March 29th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Austin Powers: who does #2 work for?
Tom Arnold: thats right buddy. you tell that turd who’s boss!
March 29th, 2010 at 11:51 am
JB Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:26 am
I still say spend one 5th round pick, we have two, and bring in Troy Smith RFA, Ravens. He can run our offense. He, Gradkowski & Frey all play the same style offense. Unlike JaBustus, he could learn the entire playbook and make it work. Then draft DT, C, MLB, OT, OG, FB, RB, RB.
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I agree. A 5th rounder is not much of a price to pay for a guy who could easily win the starting job. Smith and Gradkowski would likely compete for the starting job unless JaMarcus somehow improves his game dramatically in the next 5 months. I think Frye is a decent option as a No. 3 QB but don’t see him as a true 1 or 2. JaMarcus would have to show enough to deserve a roster spot over Frye in this scenario which at minimum would mean showing some dedication and effort to improving and probably taking a massive pay cut as well.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Al Davis will have at least 1 tall guy with a cannon arm on the roster. If Russell is on the verge of getting cut – enter Sage Rosenfels.
Troy Smith is a Bruce Gradkowski clone.
Al Davis won’t go with a bunch of short dudes with noodle arms. Frye fits the mold best since Losman was not retained, but he doesn’t have a rocket arm either really
March 29th, 2010 at 11:55 am
I think Jerry’s wrong about part of his McNabb story.
The last few season McNabb has been focused on PASSING the ball instead of making first check donw and then running.
He’s had some receivers recently too. Granted, he’s likely not as fleet footed as he once was but his pocket presence and quicker release instantly upgrades the O line an O line frankly thats maybe only a little worse than what he dealt with last year.
IF theres ANY validity to these reprts at all it likely means Jamarcus isn’t up to where Oakland would like him to be and may be cut. IF any of this is true.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Now Nnamdi 21, no need to name call. You know when you turn to that it is because you do not have a point, and have no other path to righteousness.
I tell you what why dont we meet, and we can talk about it face to face.
Anyway “Namdy”, I pay more in income tax in one year than most people make in 4 years. So while your point is funny, it does not apply to me.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Roller skates?!?!? I think culpepepper is a good veteran that can fill the need, just as he did this past season in detroit, he is not a long term answer, that is the job of no.2. When pep was here before no.2. did very well when he got some run near the end of the season, it seems that no.2 respects pep and was able to learn from him. Also he would be a good back up later on if needed a big time upgrade over gradkowski and frye. Pep also would not cost veruy much. Pac man could be signed for the minimum, this would allow us to draft for line of scrimage and line backer, if he washed out it would not cost very much. If he is able to even be half the play maker he was as a titan again its a low risk intstant upgrade. We should not trade one of our best defensive players, since our defense has been so weak. pac man also fits the davis mold speedy play maker, cast off that has been a trouble maker and a mistfit, looking to redeem himself. You never know perhaps he has matured. These ideas are worth a shot.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:56 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:48 am
N21: you wanna stay with Trent Williams or switch to Okung?
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IF Okung falls that far and he won’t. Williams please.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:58 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Henry Lawrence: Ndamukong Suh (03/26)
***
do you want me to change your pick to Okung ???
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Yes sir. We can get Cody or Williams late in the 1st or the 2nd.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:58 am
I couldn’t have said it better, Jerry. Raider fans are desperate right now. And when you’re desperate, you latch on to desperate, irrational ideas. We don’t have an offensive line. We DID when Gannon arrived. McNabb is used to a west coast offense, probably the most QB friendly offense in history where it both jacks up a QB’s stats and protects the QB with plays that get the ball out of his hand faster. Gannon had a solid veteran receiver in Tim Brown, one of the best possession receivers in the history of the game, for measure. We need to draft a QB and start from scratch. We’re at zero. We’ve got a few skill positions players but the foundation is non existent. O line is a joke. D front 7 is a joke. We need a real coach and staff. And yes, we need a QB, but not a veteran. We don’t have the team to surround him with.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
mistic: I think that both Bruce Gradkowski & Charlie Frye are better than Culpepper and Russell.
either trade a 2nd for McNabb or a 5th for Rosenfels and i’ll be pleased!
Pacman Jones is probably a better 4th CB and return man than we’ve had since Justin Miller was cut for “Wes Welker in waiting” Nick Miller. But with Cable’s pledge to purge all idiots from the locker room, I seriously doubt Pacman Jones will even be considered …
March 29th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Dakota, you said it, because that’s what this is all about with Al. The minute he cuts Russell, Kiffin will be laughing his ass off. And remember how much closer to home Kiffin is now.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Nnamdi21, you handled this “Henry Lawrence” character quite well.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Henry Lawrence Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Now Nnamdi 21, no need to name call. You know when you turn to that it is because you do not have a point, and have no other path to righteousness.
I tell you what why dont we meet, and we can talk about it face to face.
Anyway “Namdy”, I pay more in income tax in one year than most people make in 4 years. So while your point is funny, it does not apply to me
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Right. My name calling is my weakness but it does NOT mean I do not have a vaild point(s), it just lets you off the hook from addressing anything I’ve stated doesn’t it?
Its easier to see why you’re so scurred of Obama now isn’t it?
You want to wallow in your wretched excess while everyone else suffers.
If we met face to face you wouldn’t like it.
Your path to righteousness is deluding yourself from the truth.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Nnamdi21, you handled this “Henry Lawrence” character quite well.
===================
You can back the TRUTH all day long.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
trade the walrus to Detroit for Mr. Irrelevant!
pick #255 can be used on the fastest corner available …
March 29th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
ArmyRaider, as far as people bringing up politics in here, take note. It’s not coming from the winning team…
March 29th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Rockstar,
Cable’s going to banish himself from the locker room?
Well then , purge away.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
You can back the TRUTH all day long.
***
Paul Pierce?
March 29th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
mistic: I think that both Bruce Gradkowski & Charlie Frye are better than Culpepper and Russell.
either trade a 2nd for McNabb or a 5th for Rosenfels and i’ll be pleased!
Pacman Jones is probably a better 4th CB and return man than we’ve had since Justin Miller was cut for “Wes Welker in waiting” Nick Miller. But with Cable’s pledge to purge all idiots from the locker room, I seriously doubt Pacman Jones will even be considered …
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Me too. Pac Man’s skills seemed diminished with Dallas and he’s an arrest warrant waiting to happen. Not a smart man…
In todays “passing League” CBs are a valuable commodity, but I’d be surprised to see anyone pick him up. Maybe Cincy. They like the criminal element there apparently…
March 29th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
There is no such thing as an independent voter. Everyone tilts right or left to some degree, and has developed at least some kind of ideology in either of the two directions, even if it’s just moderate.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Hopefully ole AL waits until next year to make a run at Mcnabb. Nothing has been reported from the Raiders so this could be media induced rumors. Take Mclain at #8 and draft some o-linemen. Bring in Pac man to return kicks and cover in a few packages and let JLH play more. If we can stay healthy and DHB can pick it up, we are going to be allright. Anybody with an eye for football can see we have the talent, it is just misused. Hopefully Hue Jackson can get that sorted out. McFadden on the field more as a reciever is a must. Bush should start at HB. Let the best QB startand we will be allright. We are not that far off!
March 29th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
http://www.henrylawrence.com/
March 29th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Cable’s going to banish himself from the locker room?
Well then , purge away.
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wouldn’t hurt my feelings!
I think Al Davis should have hired a defensive minded coach for once and got us back to physical football.
Winston Moss.
then just let Hackett run the offense and Tollner tutor the QB’s
March 29th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Conservative vs Liberal
>
> If a conservative doesn’t like guns, he doesn’t buy one.
> If a liberal doesn’t like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.
>
> If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn`t eat meat.
> If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for
> everyone.
>
> If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his
> enemy.
> A liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.
>
> If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
> If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
>
> If a black man or Hispanic are conservative, they see themselves as
> independently successful.
> Their liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government
> protection.
>
> If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his
> situation.
> A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.
>
> If a conservative doesn’t like a talk show host, he switches channels.
> Liberals demand that those they don’t like be shut down.
>
> If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn’t go to church.
> A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced.
> (Unless it’s a foreign religion, of course!)
>
> If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for
> it, or may choose a job that provides it.
> A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.
>
> If a conservative slips and falls in a store, he gets up, laughs and is
> embarrassed.
> If a liberal slips and falls, he grabs his neck, moans like he’s in labor
> and then sues.
>
> If a conservative reads this, he’ll forward it so his friends can have a
> good laugh.
> A liberal will delete it because he’s “offended”.
>
>
>
March 29th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
I was going to say, Nnamdi. From what I’ve read about the real Henry Lawrence, I doubt the person posting as him represents his views.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Henry, those “a liberal would do this, a conservative would do that” e mails are so 2004.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
updated …
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March 29th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Rockstar, I believe that in any industry, you have to do what the best are doing, and do it better. You can be innovative, but it’s a gamble. And I think this rehash of the vertical game Al’s been going for since Norv Turner has crapped out. The New Orleans Saints are the world champions. Period. And if your goal isn’t to be a world champion, you don’t belong in this league. Therefore, our goal should be to be to do what the Saints do, yet do it better. The Saints HC is not a defensive minded coach. Having a D minded coach may make our team tougher, but it won’t win us a Super Bowl.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
MR, you know me lil guy…. DON’T forget bro I live in your back yard of SS.
P.S.
Hood business knowes no boundry!
Namdy, thanks for the plug.
You got me though, I am not Mr. “70″.
Are you really our beloved Nnamdi?
March 29th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Always bringing up Bush/Cheney whenever BO is put on the spot. Ludicrous.
Bush/Cheney didn’t pass any legislation that wasn’t democratically supported, going on about 5 years now.
That’s like blaming Norv Turner and Randy Moss for the Raiders current problems!!
March 29th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
I don’t care if you live next door to me, Henry. You’re still a clown.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Henry, those “a liberal would do this, a conservative would do that” e mails are so 2004.
—————-
Yes, this was from then, and it is still very true.
If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his
> situation.
> A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.
Ring a bell Nnamdi? Does your “pay” check come in the mail?
March 29th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Vegas Raider, the thing about Bush and Cheney not passing anything that wasn’t “democratically supported” in…the past 5 years…what right wing website did you pull that from?
March 29th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
hope everybody has their incidental black hole insurance up to date beginning tomorrow.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100329/ap_on_re_eu/eu_big_bang_machine
the next sound you could hear is “oops”
March 29th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Makes me think of those big businesses who got bailed out, Henry. Makes me wonder if they knew they’d get bailed out all along. Zero risk venture.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
House and Senate were Democratic majorities starting 2006. Anything that wasn’t supported by at least a handful of Dems wouldn’t pass.
So almost 5 years should be 4 years, but you get the drift.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
I don’t care if you live next door to me, Henry. You’re still a clown.
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Look Honda boy, as I said before, name the time and place.
“Clown” wow a big word coming from a blog pimp.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Who bailed out the big businesses? McCain and Obama stood arm and arm supporting (and voting) Bush and Paulsen’s crooked TARP nonsense into action.
Than BO took the torch from our buddy W, and did the same thing about 6 weeks into office. Even more money for AIG, Citi and others.
Looks like the crook baton was passed off seamlessly from one prez to the next.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Vegas, I believe you. I just want to know how you came up with such a stat. You’ve got the timeline down and everything. lol. Did you do your own study, or do you have Rush Limbaugh’s website in the next tab?
March 29th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
And like that I am gone…stir the pot and bail.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Henry, you give your real identity right here and now, with some kind of link which proves it, and I’ll agree to meet you somewhere.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Vegas, I never accused you of stirring the pot. We’re all welcome to our views here. See you later.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
There is no such thing as an independent voter. Everyone tilts right or left to some degree, and has developed at least some kind of ideology in either of the two directions, even if it’s just moderate.
^^^^^^^^
It’s all about not affiliated with the left or right being independent and voting on the ISSUES!
March 29th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Vegas, I don’t agree with Obama bailing out big businesses, either. And he deserves the hit in the polls he took since that. But now that his next bill is going after Wall Street, I think he’s going to regain a lot of the support he lost from that. Obama is not going to turn this place into Utopia. I never thought he was. But he’s a hell of a lot better than the ticket he ran against, which believed everything was fine and no change was needed whatsoever.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Henry Lawrence Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Conservative vs Liberal
>
> If a conservative doesn’t like guns, he doesn’t buy one.
> If a liberal doesn’t like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.
>
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I own many guns rifles and shotguns. Still don’t consider myslef Liberal OR Repub. Besides, this convenient little Neo Con propaganda blurg seems a sort cut to thinking doesn’t it Henry?
How about answering for your self instead of spouting the party line?
=====================
> If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn`t eat meat.
> If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for
> everyone.
====================
Riiiight. Its the Liberals who are taking awya our freedoms and rights. Hoo kaaaay…
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>
> If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his
> enemy.
> A liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.
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To a conservative a “foreign threat” is someone who’s got something they want to steal so they demonize them and stage a “ter-rorist attack” to dupe us into a war that costs lives and trillions of OUR tax dollars so multi national corporations and the military industrial media complex can rape the world.
A liberla thinks “Is this cause worth sending our best and brightest into harms way or is it simply for the profit of the ultra wealthy?
Criminal isn’t it?
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>
> If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
> If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
====================
You mean like Rush Limbaugh quietly leading his life? Like any of the other Azz- h-ole Republican puppets you’ve mentioned?
=====================
>
> If a black man or Hispanic are conservative, they see themselves as
> independently successful.
> Their liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government
> protection.
>
==================
What a joke…I’m done what a waste on an obviously inferior mind who spouts only propaganda backed by nothing of substance.
> If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his
> situation.
> A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.
>
> If a conservative doesn’t like a talk show host, he switches channels.
> Liberals demand that those they don’t like be shut down.
>
> If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn’t go to church.
> A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced.
> (Unless it’s a foreign religion, of course!)
>
> If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for
> it, or may choose a job that provides it.
> A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.
>
> If a conservative slips and falls in a store, he gets up, laughs and is
> embarrassed.
> If a liberal slips and falls, he grabs his neck, moans like he’s in labor
> and then sues.
>
> If a conservative reads this, he’ll forward it so his friends can have a
> good laugh.
> A liberal will delete it because he’s “offended
==================
Any ideas of your own or are you just wanting to repost Republican propaganda?
Yaaaaawn.
“When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do.”
William Blake
March 29th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
I believe that in any industry, you have to do what the best are doing, and do it better. You can be innovative, but it’s a gamble. And I think this rehash of the vertical game Al’s been going for since Norv Turner has crapped out. The New Orleans Saints are the world champions. Period. And if your goal isn’t to be a world champion, you don’t belong in this league. Therefore, our goal should be to be to do what the Saints do, yet do it better. The Saints HC is not a defensive minded coach. Having a D minded coach may make our team tougher, but it won’t win us a Super Bowl.
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compelling argument MR. Sean Peyton is an offensive guru and Drew Brees is one of the best QB’s in the game (Top 3 imo). Saints go pass happy most of the time with a solid rushing attack to lean on if need be.
Thomas, Bush & Bell had a combined 389 rushing attempts compared to Brees’ 514 pass attempts.
Fargas, Bush & McFadden had a combined 356 rushing attempts compared to Russell, Gradkowski & Frye’s 483 pass attempts.
Saints had 125 more passes than runs. Raiders had 127 more passes than runs. I don’t think gameplan & philosophy are the problems. I think personnel & execution are.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
DKnight, there’s no such thing. Every single human being on this planet falls left or right of the political spectrum. I know it sounds cool to say you’re an independent, but you’re not. Take a mathematical approach to it. Let’s say you have have a number zero. Then you have a plus 1 in either side of it, a plus 2, etc. You take all of your political views, add up your number, and you’re falling on one side of that line, even if it’s just a fraction. Even if you’re just .000001 degrees to the left or right, you’re still leaning one direction or another. Nobody is independent. Our biology just doesn’t work that way.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
trade DMc for a right wing socialist!
trade DMc for a left wing reactionary!
trade Dmc for an antidisestablishmentarianist!
March 29th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
What it means is that we need an offensive minded head coach who has more control of the team, RRS.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Always bringing up Bush/Cheney whenever BO is put on the spot. Ludicrous.
Bush/Cheney didn’t pass any legislation that wasn’t democratically supported, going on about 5 years now.
That’s like blaming Norv Turner and Randy Moss for the Raiders current problems!!
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It was about 10 yrs of Repubican rule of the house and senate that caused this melt down. Their roll backs of laws like anti-trust and deregulation were responsible for letting these monoliths come to unquestioned power. its all about amx profit for the richest of the rich.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
lol, what i want to know is how Vegas came up with that. Bush and Cheney having democrat support..and notice he carefully gave a timeline, SINCE 2005. So I guess before 2005 they did some things that weren’t democratically supported.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Tom Cable is no Sean Payton & JaMarcus Russell is no Drew Brees.
that much we all know …
the only hope to be anything like the Saints is that Bruce Gradkowski stays healthy and Hue Jackson does his thing without any hindrance from Davis or Cable (pipe dreams I know)
and liked I stated above – personnel on both lines need MAJOR upgrades (C, RG, RT, NT) and FB too
March 29th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
And btw, how is the health care bill not democratically supported? Our representatives voted on it, and polls are not official. The only official democratic measuring stick we have in this country is the voting booth.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
RRS, that still doesn’t make us like the Saints. Think head coach, control.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Henry, you give your real identity right here and now, with some kind of link which proves it, and I’ll agree to meet you somewhere.
*****************************
It aint hard to fig it out. Find Sal Lopez ask him who “HL” AKA Big Buck is, then look me up.
Another common friend may be Fred Arroyo. HE is in twon now for the MAHOF dinner. Were you there?
March 29th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Henry Lawrence Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Henry, those “a liberal would do this, a conservative would do that” e mails are so 2004.
—————-
Yes, this was from then, and it is still very true.
If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his
> situation.
> A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.
Ring a bell Nnamdi? Does your “pay” check come in the mail?
=====================
“Ohh! You must be poor Nnamdi because you have a social conscience and adhere to deductive truth and logic!”
I make a very nice living teaching how to kill people thank you very little.
This argument from Neo Cons that anyone who doesn’t buy into their lies is a poor welfare case begging for a hand out is a joke.
You WISH that was the case.
Regardless of income the fact is, a MAJORITY of Americans KNOW what Repubs have done and are sick of the the ultra rich and their blind toadies fear mongering threats.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Wingnuts & Wackjobs
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7535899/FBI-make-Christian-militia-arrests.html
Anybody seen MistaBrown?
March 29th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
trade JaWalrus & Hiram Eugene for Sal Lopez & Fred Arroyo!
March 29th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Henry, I’m not familiar with any Sal Lopez. Like I said, you give me your real identity, and I’ll meet with you.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Peace owt Raider Nation!~
March 29th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Anybody seen MistaBrown?
***
KK: your alter ego?
March 29th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
If McNabb can’t be had for the right price….then the old man should just give the Vikes a 5th Rounder for the Sage.
He is listed as the 3rd QB on their depth chart, so he isn’t worth a 4th Rounder, which was the price the Vikes paid to the Texans and that was when Sage was the starter for half the season for the Texans.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
It’s not 2001 anymore, that’s for sure. Right wing, homegrown terrorist groups had the perfect sanctuary in Bush’s America. But there’s a new sheriff in town now.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Nnamdi. I apologize. Unlike Vegas, I am just stirrin da pot.
MR, see you in Tracy.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Buchanon signed with the Redskins…now he and D. Hall can swap Raider nightmare stories.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
I will admit pacman is a bit of a reach, but there is no way that gradkowski or frye could ever be better than culpepper.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
Henry, I’m not meeting you anywhere until you tell me who you really are.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
“Source: Crompton to visit Jaguars, Chargers, Raiders and Seahawks”
This is the second time we are talking with a QB draft prospect…
…if we are going to draft a QB, then do the right thing and Draft Clausen in round 1.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
I make a very nice living teaching how to kill people thank you very little.
**************
Sound interestin, where at?
A friend of mine does that on the peninsula, maybe you know him? Last name is Wing.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Makes me think of those big businesses who got bailed out, Henry. Makes me wonder if they knew they’d get bailed out all along. Zero risk venture.
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Many of those “banks” took all the no interest bailout loans and reinvested it into into treasury bonds that paid interest to them. Our genius government loaned these crooks money, only to PAY THEM interest on it. I am no dem or rep, and I dont claim to be educated enough about politics to try and argue them with anyone. But anyone who can sit here today and tell me there isnt something deeply wrong with our government is absolutely clueless!
March 29th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
The scouts are going crazy about Bradford’s pro-day…they are throwing around the “best we have ever seen” line again…just as they did with Jamarcus Russell lol.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
You’re kidding, Bcz24. I thought the government was honest!
March 29th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Trade DMAC for Sal Lopez!
March 29th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
LoL. Hate to be the bearer of bad news RMR… it just aint so.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Henry Lawrence, why do you hate democracy? Why can’t you accept you are in the MINORITY and the rest of us in the MAJORITY who voted for Obama expect his policies to be implemented?
March 29th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
You’re kidding, Bcz. Wow. I’m blown away. I trusted government 100% until you said that. This just sucks. Let me write this down…government can’t be trusted. OK, got it.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Henry, I’m not familiar with any Sal Lopez. Like I said, you give me your real identity, and I’ll meet with you.
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You are so full of crap.
Doesn’t matter if it’s PoPeep, you’re not showing up anywhere, and you know it.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
“Bush and Cheney didn’t pass anyhitng after 2005 that wasn’t democratically supported.”
Don’t you think that the Congressional elections in 2004 might have had just a tiny effect on that?
People saw what Republicans unchecked were capable of, and they decided to do what they could to stop it.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Bo, in their view, it’s only a democracy if white christians are in charge. When white christians fall out of the majority, they no longer want democracy. They want their power back.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
alert alert alert
my 21 yr old son was at palms in vegas last night, got a picture with jawalrus. said he is massive.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Richochet, same goes for you, buddy. Tell me your real identity, and I’ll meet you. Why shouldn’t I? Is there a reason I should fear you?
March 29th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Dick Crabtree for president of the PTA.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Scheftforbrains on BSPN, “saying Raiders have emerged as leader to acquire McNabb.”
March 29th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
What is your real identity MR?
March 29th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
jameatloaf was with rapper rick ross and wearing a fur coat per usual
March 29th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Richochet, same goes for you, buddy. Tell me your real identity, and I’ll meet you. Why shouldn’t I? Is there a reason I should fear you?
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MR,
Since when do you care about someone’s “real identity” prior to meeting them? Those prostitutes you hire use fake names…maybe you didn’t know that?
March 29th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
jawalrus could be setting up for a jenny craig commercial by putting on the lbs and then taking them off.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Ira, when the people who call me out for not wanting to meet them give their identity, I’ll give mine. Henry Lawrence called me out and told me to meet him. Richochet then mocked me for not wanting to show up. So since they’re being the internet tough guys, I’m going to see if they’re tough enough to give their true identity right here. If they’re not even tough enough to do that, I’d probably just be wasting my time meeting with them.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Post 214. Spot on. Just like if you’re not a white Christian conservative, you can’t be a “real American.”
March 29th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Dakota Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
MR,
Since when do you care about someone’s “real identity” prior to meeting them? Those prostitutes you hire use fake names…maybe you didn’t know that?
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There are really such thing as male prostitutes? Wow, MR, good on ya m8. Now tell us your real identity.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
no way that gradkowski or frye could ever be better than culpepper.
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Mistic: are you talking about the Daunte Culpepper of 2000-2004 or the Daunte Culpepper of 2005-2009 ???
tale of 2 players. hasn’t been the same player since that knee injury
Culpepper of the past 2 years has completed 54 percent of his passes, thrown 7 TD’s vs 12 INT’s and has a QB Rating of 64
in other words: not a guy I want anywhere near our “franchise QB”
March 29th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Dakota, question answered in 223. What is your problem with me anyway, Dakota? I’ve been agreeing with you today.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
WHy do they have to give their real identity first, why don’t you give out yours first?
March 29th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Of course there’s such things as male prostitutes, Ira. Haven’t you heard of Tom Cable?
March 29th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Ira, because they’re the ones who are calling me out.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
BTW, Ira, it’s interesting that you popped up right after Henry Lawrence left. Are you the same person, posting under both names?
March 29th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
This whole blog calls you out, all the time. So tell us all.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
BTW, Ira, it’s interesting that you popped up right after Henry Lawrence left. Are you the same person, posting under both names?
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Nope, only YOU play those GAMES.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
NORMAN, Okla. (AP) Sam Bradford’s first public throwing exhibition since he had season-ending shoulder surgery went off without a snag.
The potential No. 1 NFL draft pick completed all but one of his five dozen passes during a workout Monday on his college campus in Oklahoma.
Bradford went 13 for 13 during a warmup session and then missed only one of 50 passes in the workout that followed. He completed a handful of passes 30 yards or longer, including a post pattern that went more than 50 yards.
General manager Billy Devaney and coach Steve Spagnuolo were among the contingent sent by the St. Louis Rams, who have the first pick in next month’s draft. Seattle Seahawks coach Pete Carroll, San Francisco 49ers coach Mike Singletary and Cleveland Browns president Mike Holmgren also watched.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
NORMAN, Okla. (AP) Sam Bradford’s first public throwing exhibition since he had season-ending shoulder surgery went off without a snag.
The potential No. 1 NFL draft pick completed all but one of his five dozen passes during a workout Monday on his college campus in Oklahoma.
Bradford went 13 for 13 during a warmup session and then missed only one of 50 passes in the workout that followed. He completed a handful of passes 30 yards or longer, including a post pattern that went more than 50 yards.
General manager Billy Devaney and coach Steve Spagnuolo were among the contingent sent by the St. Louis Rams, who have the first pick in next month’s draft. Seattle Seahawks coach Pete Carroll, San Francisco 49ers coach Mike Singletary and Cleveland Browns president Mike Holmgren also watched.
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And you posted this why?
March 29th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
The whole blog calls me out, to meet up with them? I’ve never seen that. What comments? Give links to the exact pages. The only person who’s called me out to meet them in recent memory is Henry Lawrence, who did so this morning. And, I’m pretty sure this is you, and that you’ve just changed your name. When you (henry, lol) give your real identity, I’ll meet with you. I’ve got to know who I’m meeting up with. It’s a crazy world.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) A Florida woman is suing Pittsburgh Steeler Santonio Holmes, saying he attacked her in an Orlando nightclub.
Anshonoe Mills claims in the lawsuit that Holmes grabbed her face and threw a glass at her when he objected to her sitting on a couch in the Rain Night Club’s VIP section on March 7. Mills says the glass hit her and cut her near the eye.
The lawsuit also claims Holmes and a police officer intimidated Mills so she wouldn’t press charges.
Orlando Police Sgt. Barbara Jones hadn’t seen the lawsuit and couldn’t comment.
Steelers spokesman Dave Lockett said team officials were gathering information and had no immediate comment.
Holmes’ teammate, quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, was accused earlier this month of assaulting a Georgia college student. He has not been charged.
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Holmes is innocent & FatBurger is guilty, right Kell ???
March 29th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Dakota, question answered in 223. What is your problem with me anyway, Dakota? I’ve been agreeing with you today.
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MR,
You and I have been commenting in this blog longer than many of these guys. You should know by now that I am just messing with you. I have no problem with you at all. In fact, I enjoy our little political back and forths.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
Only I play those games? First of all, when have I ever posted under another name? Prove that one. And, assuming I did, I’m the “only” one? Ha ha ha. Yeh.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
And you posted this why?
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at least it’s football related …
I suppose your battle the the biggest troll is much more captivating to others who read this blog?
March 29th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Remember, Richochet insisted it was me posting under his name last week. As I understand, the mods ban people instantly for that. I’m sure the mods were notified about that cross posting, since it was whined about ad nauseum in here by Richochet himself. Yet I’m still here. Why is that, if I’m the one doing the cross posting?
March 29th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
MR I just notified the blog moderator and I am notifying local authorities about your cyber bullying, cyber stalking, and cyber harassment. Your repeated attempts to get people to meet you and the fact that you continually entice banter of offensive material is unwarranted and illegal. The local authorities have been notified. Good luck buddy.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
lol. I guess Henry/Ira is done for a while. Let’s see what his next pseudonym’s going to be.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Lets see what your next excuse to the local authorities will be. Good luck buddy.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
oh, never mind. Notifying the blog moderators and authorities about what? Asking for the identity of someone wanting to meet me in real person? What law does that break? What blog rules? You’re being a bit dramatic today, Ira aka Henry Lawrence.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Richochet, same goes for you, buddy. Tell me your real identity, and I’ll meet you. Why shouldn’t I? Is there a reason I should fear you?
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Dude, you’re an admitted pansy.
You admit you’re a lying ass dog.
You admit you say one thing, then proudly do another, then say “so what”?
You admit you make bets, but never plan on paying off when you lose.
You admit you have posted as other posters, but so what, others have too.
And you’re the ONLY one who has repeatedly stated how when you get your little panties all bunched up, you rush to call the police and then cry to the mods.
Funny thing is you think the police are laughing WITH you, and not at you.
Even funnier? Your dumbass posted ‘And no, they weren’t laughing at me when they hung up.”
Too easy, Real MaddenAttentionWhore.
And everyone knows all you want is a name…you already posted the disclaimer that if you can’t trust someone, why would you meet them.
Oh..and yes…you definitely SHOULD fear me.
Now…call the police…do a three way call..I want to laugh along.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Explain it to the local authorities MR, it’s on record now. Try and explain that.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
I don’t recall ever admitting I’m a pansy. Who the hell does that? I’ll meet anyone here who wants to meet me, Richochet. I just have to know who they are. That includes you.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Ira, if the local authorities contact me, I’ll answer any questions they have. I’m quite confident I didn’t break any laws today. Asking for the identity of someone asking to meet me in public? Never heard of that being illegal.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
lol…oh geez…the little attention whore…”Post to me..SOMEONE/EVERYONE…POST TO ME”.
After Oakglen, you’re the biggest cross posting beyotch on this board, MaddenAttentionWhore.
And yeah, dumbass, first, while posting as “Richochet” you posted exactly how to go about skirting the rules, which the mods removed,..then under MaddenMoron, posted almost the exact same thing.
coincidence?
lol…again, you little flea…no one cares. Your ignorant ass kept posting as me to YOU, where you would reply…like the little attention whore flea that you be.
I know…you’re all giddy now..aren’t you?
You got a reply…almost tingling, I imagine?
Here’s MY GUARANTEE…YOU’RE SORRY LITTLE FATASS WON’T EVER MEET ANYONE, ANYWHERE, ANYTIME, REGARDLESS OF THEM POSTING FULL PERSONAL INFO, WEBSITES, ETC…that’s a guarantee…
You’re a flea…fleas only hang around like a little itch..nothing more.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
New cyber crime laws MR. You will find out soon enough. Make sure you stick around the house the next few days as the local authorities will have a few questions for you. Funny thing is, they knew who you were when I called them, they said they laughed and were waiting for someone to finally call and complain about you, since you have called them several times.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Richochet, you’re NOT here to get attention?
March 29th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
I don’t think Henry Lawrence is Ira Einhorn.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Well, that’s fine then, Ira aka Henry. I welcome any questions they have.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
I think he is, RRS.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
I think the real question is why is Real MaddenMoron using this site to try and hook up with guys?
You guys do KNOW that he has gone public with his mad mancrush on Jeff Garcia..don’t you?
Regale everyone on that, MR…considering you love attention, and all.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Bickering back and forth like females ruins the blog. I mean do yall sit when you pee?
March 29th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Report: Raiders are favorites for McNabb
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 29, 2010 4:32 PM ET
Get read for some false rumor monger accusations.
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported on NFL Live Monday that the Raiders are the “clear cut favorite” to land Donovan McNabb.
Per Schefter, the Raiders are reportedly not worried about Philadelphia’s asking price or the fact McNabb is only signed for one more year. If McNabb landed in Oakland, the Raiders could potentially retain his rights with the franchise tag. (Although that could be near $20 million next year.)
We’ve heard a lot of different reports and rumors regarding McNabb, and Oakland’s interest is a theme that runs through many. PFT first report Nmandi Asomugha’s possible inclusion in a trade offer Friday.
Oakland’s status as favorites for McNabb has a certain logic to it. Based on everything we’ve seen from Al Davis over the last five years, this absolutely looks like a move he’d make.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
whoa…back up there, big guy. I certainly am not using this site to “hook up” with guys. And anyone who got that impression: That’s a NO GO. Not my preference. I only asked for someone’s identity because he wanted to meet me in person. I don’t know why he wants to meet me…but if it’s for that? Forget it!
March 29th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Interesting take on Al Davis
http://raiderschalkboard.blogspot.com/2010/03/does-al-davis-need-to-get-mean.html
March 29th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Richochet, you’re NOT here to get attention?
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Do I rush from post to post, asking the dumbest question?
No…but YOU DO.
Do I jump in the middle of exchanges, and ask the same question, over and over and over?
No..but YOU DO.
Do I go down the line and literally beg for a comment…any comment…from anyone???
No..but YOU DO.
Unlike your sorryass I work. Unlike your sorryass, I have a family. Unlike your sorryass, I have hobbies.
You? You live for this board..you live vicariously through this board. Even the most negative attention, to you, is a thrill….you’re basically just a whack job, dude.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Ohhhhh, wow, then you are giving off the wrong impression MR. Because I also thought you came on this blog to hook up with guys. Thats certainly the impression you give everyone.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Well, Richochet, that’s a convincing argument that you’re not here to get attention. lol.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
whoa…back up there, big guy. I certainly am not using this site to “hook up” with guys.
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Just the past 15 posts you wanted dudes to identify themselves so you could go meet them. Looks like a “hook up” to me.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Well, back in September, you definitely let the cat out of the bag, MAW.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:45pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says: I’d still take Garcia. It would be kind of nice to see Jeffy running around in tight pants again.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Ira, let’s clear the air now. I’m not using this blog to hook up with guys. I am not attracted to guys. Period. Straight. Into women. End of story. Richochet is going to pull up some joke I made months about about Jeff Garcia, where I was merely playing along with another commentor’s accusation that I had some sort of “man crush” on Jeff Garcia because I wanted him to be our QB.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Just Win, I only wanted one person to identify himself, because HE wanted to meet ME in person. lol. Where are these guys coming from? Oh, who am I kidding? Of course it’s probably the same guy posting as Henry Lawrence, Ira, and “Just Win”. lol. How many will he come up with today?
March 29th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
ottocrat Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Report: Raiders are favorites for McNabb
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 29, 2010 4:32 PM ET
Get read for some false rumor monger accusations.
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported on NFL Live Monday that the Raiders are the “clear cut favorite” to land Donovan McNabb.
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Get it done!!!
March 29th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Richochet, it’s a joke. There’s a context to that comment, if you read the other comments around it. I am not attracted to Jeff Garcia, or any guy on the planet. I don’t swing that way. So if that’s what “henry Lawrence” was actually interested in, which I’m starting to believe now based on what you guys are saying, the answer is NO. And, I’ll pass on meeting him. I didn’t know why he wanted to meet me. But in this crazy world, I’m certainly not going to drive to Tracy to meet someone who I don’t even know the identity of.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Just Win, I only wanted one person to identify himself, because HE wanted to meet ME in person. lol. Where are these guys coming from?
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Where are these guys coming from? I’d say they are all jumping out of the same closet.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Here’s your reality check, MaddenAttentionWhore.
I crap on you, or OakDork, or kelli, and could give a damn if you reply.
You? You’ll follow the person for days, repeating the same stupid question, like a little puppy.
Hell, one night I was here smacking with TJ, or Oakdork…don’t recall, and don’t care to, and in the middle of it YOU POSTED DOZENS OF QUESTIONS TO ME…over and over and over…I posted once “Get lost flea”..and for an hour you just sat there, posting to me, even though I ignored you, lol….just like a little insecure puppy.
Dude..you’re pathetic…everyone knows it.
And yeah…so do you.
Goody for you, flea…remember, in your case, attention, albeit negative, is still a plus.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Probably so, Seymour. I certainly didn’t bring up this gay stuff.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
HEY
Was just going to comment that Seymour will be here VERY SHORTLY..as he watches all day long, just waiting for me…AND VOILA…
March 29th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Dakota Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
“Source: Crompton to visit Jaguars, Chargers, Raiders and Seahawks”
This is the second time we are talking with a QB draft prospect…
…if we are going to draft a QB, then do the right thing and Draft Clausen in round 1.
^^^^^^^^
Then go O-Line and D-Line the rest of the way and add a MIKE LB in there as well.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
ooooh, ok, Richochet. You crap on us. I’m so scared.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Hey Oakdork, was curious…you said you were 29..then you said you’re 30..which is it?
March 29th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
MaddenAttentionWhore? go clean up your room, little boy.
Quit following everyone.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Why do you want to know his age, Richochet? Are you gay? Yep, I think you are! Why does Richochet want to know another guy’s age if he’s not gay? huh? Come on, we’re just going by his standards here.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Mr. Jamarcus Russell
“Russell putting the “jam” in JaMarcus” from NFL Newsbreak by Fanball.com
The News
“JaMarcus Russell has reported to Oakland’s offseason workouts at a staggering 290 pounds, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter.”
Our View
“And you wonder why his team is so hot after Donovan McNabb. As Schefter puts it, “at least he was under three bills.” Stay tuned.”
March 29th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
I don’t have a “room”, Richochet. I live in an apartment. Granted, it’s not big. But it’s more than a room.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
that is sooo odd…day after day, or night after night…seems that very shortly after I post, Seymour/Oakglen shows up…
I said this months ago…you have me on Google Alert, don’t you, pumpkin?
March 29th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Move Jamarcus to Left/right Tackle, or Nose tackle even, make him work for his 60plus mill
March 29th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
MaddenAttentionWhore “Post to me, Richochet…POST TO MEEEEEE”
Go clean my yard first…then maybe.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
DKnight007 Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Dakota Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
“Source: Crompton to visit Jaguars, Chargers, Raiders and Seahawks”
This is the second time we are talking with a QB draft prospect…
…if we are going to draft a QB, then do the right thing and Draft Clausen in round 1.
^^^^^^^^
Then go O-Line and D-Line the rest of the way and add a MIKE LB in there as well.
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Jus trade for McNabb. Im tired of our drafted QBs not panning out.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Reports of trades for Sage Rosenfels or McNabb.
Wonder if a veteran is signed if Oakland goes after another young QB at #8?
Perhaps California kid Jimmy Clausen?
March 29th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
# Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
you’re basically just a whack job, dude.
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Once again, as usual, wack-o is wrong. he means he gets “crapped on” by us all day every day, but yet somehow seems to enjoy it. And BTW Dead Beat Dad, wack job is one of the many derogatory terms I use daily to describe YOU. Please refrain from taking my words, like you constantly do, crossing your name out, and inserting either my name or someone else’s. Once again, it shows you have no original thoughts. Thanking you in advance for not plagiarizing me!
March 29th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
i dont wanna give up Nnamdi tho…. But if were gonna lose him for nothing then we need to trade him for something for sure.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Of course it’s probably the same guy posting as Henry Lawrence, Ira, and “Just Win”. lol. How many will he come up with today?
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Henry & JW are cool dudes.
this Ira fellow isn’t them
March 29th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Retribution===JR to tackle?
Can you imagine?
3rd play of game, he’s gassed?
Bringing in oxygen?
Actually, that would be funny…ok..yeah…let’s do it.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Richochet, how much will you give me for cleaning your yard?
March 29th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
# Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
that is sooo odd…day after day, or night after night…seems that very shortly after I post, Seymour/Oakglen shows up…
I said this months ago…you have me on Google Alert, don’t you, pumpkin?
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HOW MANY TIMES have we gone over this? You post here more than anyone! Last night, when most GOOD parents would be putting their kids to bed, you were here trolling. It’s nearly impossible to post here, WITHOUT you around. But then again, if the choice was tucking your kids in to bed, and reading to them, or trolling on the internet, what would you do? Especially if you were a DEAD BEAT DAD?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Richochet, how much will you give me for cleaning your yard?
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he has no coin. How much do internet trolls make? How much do Dead Beat Dads make? Not much.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
between mcnabb and rosenfels i would have to pick rosenfels ,not on ability i just dont think mcnabb would show up.i think he would sit out the year
March 29th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Well, Oakglen…see…YOU STATED YOU WERE 30..
then stupidly posted this:
· Seymour Bush Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 1:22 am
I am sorry but I have been out all night with a very hot Peruvian woman half my age and I come and see this. All I have to say is this: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHHAHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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15??
That’s your hot date?
A 15 year old? lol…damn…a pedophile?
A lying ass cross posting pedophile?
wow…way to go, SeyOakDork..you’ve reached a new low.
So..guess you save on AC Transit student bus passes when you guys go out?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Ricky has a point. Sey Bush doesn’t show up unless he’s here
kind of like Beeecham stalks Kelly…
March 29th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
# Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Hey Oakdork, was curious…you said you were 29..then you said you’re 30..which is it?
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When did I say that wack-o? Or am I just haunting you every night in your dreams?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
15??? damn….so…what do you and her talk about Oakdork?
Hannah Montana?
Uh…Hot Topic??
Inquiring minds want to know
March 29th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Ricky has a point. Sey Bush doesn’t show up unless he’s here
kind of like Beeecham stalks Kelly…
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I have been posting for the two of the last three days at length without him. Tell me, when is he NOT here? In the morning? Evening? Night? Weekends? When is he NOT here? Kind of hard to avoid him isn’t it?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
fat kidd Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
between mcnabb and rosenfels i would have to pick rosenfels ,not on ability i just dont think mcnabb would show up.i think he would sit out the year
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Maybe he does that at 27 or 28…But at 33? No way.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
· Seymour Bush Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 1:22 am
I am sorry but I have been out all night with a very hot Peruvian woman half my age and I come and see this. All I have to say is this: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHHAHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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# RaiderRockstar Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Ricky has a point. Sey Bush doesn’t show up unless he’s here
kind of like Beeecham stalks Kelly…
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See, and now he has a whole catelog of my posts stored up. Rockstar, who is stalking who? You tell me?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Ricky has a point. Sey Bush doesn’t show up unless he’s here
kind of like Beeecham stalks Kelly…
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You think I’m kidding?
I can post you DOZENS of times where Seymour will have NOT BEEN HERE ALL DAY, and sometimes within MINUTES…literally MINUTES of me posting, he’s here.
Hell..go look at night…he pops in at 1:00 AM to post a message TO ME…lol…I hadn’t been here all night…but..still comes on..posts ONE MESSAGE TO ME..then leaves…did it again the next night…one message TO me, then replied to someone else while mentioning me.
I think I’m his hero
March 29th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
so…what do you and her talk about Oakdork?
Hannah Montana?
Uh…Hot Topic??
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LOL!
I can see MR walking into Hot Topic as well wearing all black like a gothic kid with spikes & chains to try and look “tough” and everybody who walks by bursts with laughter.
Ricky: if you really want to meet these guys, show up at the nearest dungeons & dragons convention
March 29th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
RAIDERS ATTEND QB BRADFORD’S WORKOUT,
Raiders representatives were in Norman, Okla., on Monday to watch Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford and other Sooners prospects at their Pro Day.
Judging by the reaction of those who watched Bradford work out, it wouldn’t be such a bad thing for the Raiders to forget about JaMarcus Russell, Bruce Gradkowski, Charlie Frye, Donovan McNabb, Sage Rosenfels and whomever else is mentioned as the Raiders quarterback next season and the future.
Long-time NFL executive Gil Brandt said Bradford’s workout “almost left me speechless. And that’s saying something.”
Brandt and the Raiders reps were there in person, along with reps from every team in the NFL. Bradford attempted 63 passes, 50 of which were scripted. None was “uncatchable,” Brandt said.
“He moved around well, including throwing on the run out of the pocket, and went through the entire route tree,” Brandt said on NFL.com. “The scripted workout included three-, five- and seven-step drops, shotgun, and play-action plays, plus sprints and rollouts to both sides.
“It really was a treat to watch, and I think everyone here was in awe of Bradford’s performance. In fact, he put on the best quarterback workout by a draft prospect that I’ve seen since I watched a private workout Troy Aikman put on for us with the Cowboys in California.”
Bradford measured 6-foot-5 and 236 pounds. He also showed no lingering effects from the shoulder injury he sustained early last year in his final collegiate season.
The Raiders hold the No. 8 pick in this year’s NFL Draft. Bradford might go as high as No. 1 and likely won’t be around at No. 8.
I am wondering how Rusell workout was back in 07???
March 29th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
# Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Hey Oakdork, was curious…you said you were 29..then you said you’re 30..which is it?
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When did I say that wack-o? Or am I just haunting you every night in your dreams? Come on Wack-o. Answer this. Don’t be a Dead Beat Troll in addition to being a Dead Beat Dad. You have all my posts stored up. Find it.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Or are you just going to resort to your usual LYING. You’re just going to resort to lying as usual, right WACKY?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
Only I play those games? First of all, when have I ever posted under another name? Prove that one. And, assuming I did, I’m the “only” one? Ha ha ha. Yeh.
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Does StrahanManNY ring a bell?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Ricky has a point. Sey Bush doesn’t show up unless he’s here
kind of like Beeecham stalks Kelly…
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I have been posting for the two of the last three days at length without him. Tell me, when is he NOT here? In the morning? Evening? Night? Weekends? When is he NOT here? Kind of hard to avoid him isn’t it?
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Uh..dumbass??
I was here yesterday? Day before? rest of week, morning evening and night?
Wrong Pedo…see..YOU WERE CHALLENGED TO POST MY TIMES..like you do when you think you have something on me..except this time? lol…NOTHING..because you couldn’t find anything….point is…DO YOU REALLY HAVE ME ON GOOGLE ALERT?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Mcnabb rumor not going away just yet…
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/29/report-raiders-are-favorites-for-mcnabb/
March 29th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Ricky has a point. Sey Bush doesn’t show up unless he’s here
kind of like Beeecham stalks Kelly…
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You think I’m kidding?
I can post you DOZENS of times where Seymour will have NOT BEEN HERE ALL DAY, and sometimes within MINUTES…literally MINUTES of me posting, he’s here.
Hell..go look at night…he pops in at 1:00 AM to post a message TO ME
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AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
WHAT POSSIBLY MAKES YOU THINK THAT WAS A POST TO YOU? THAT WAS A POST CRAPPING ON YOU!!!
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
March 29th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
hey, Oakdork…anyone else ever accuse you of doing the same?
You know..just lurking…ALLLLL DAYYYYYY LOOOOONG…waiting for someone to post, where you rush to jump on???
anyone???
March 29th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
What an arrogant complete MORON LOSER!
March 29th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
15??? Damn OakDork…that’s pathetic dude.
What?? You’re saying you’re not 30?
You’re 40?? which is it?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Mcnabb rumor not going away just yet…
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Thec: whats the most you would give up to get McNabb?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
BATON ROUGE — JaMarcus Russell, who many are projecting as the No. 1 pick in April’s NFL Draft, dazzled pro football personnel on Wednesday as he, along with 18 former LSU players participated in the school’s Pro Day at the Charles McClendon Practice Facility.
Over 100 NFL personnel were on hand for the events, including head coaches for the New Orleans Saints, Minnesota Vikings, Oakland Raiders and general managers from the Cleveland Browns and San Diego Chargers.
Close to 75 members of the media were also on hand, including the NFL Network, ESPN, USA Today, ESPN the Magazine and Yahoo Sports. The NFL Network dedicated an entire 30-minute show to LSU’s Pro Day.
The testing that took place on Wednesday had each of the players being measured for height and weight as well as arm and hand span. Most of the players also took part in the 40-yard dash, the 225-pound bench press, the 20-yard shuttle, the 3-cone drill and the broad jump and vertical jump.
In addition to the testing, many of the players took part in a series of individual workouts for the pro personnel. Russell, along with wide receivers Dwayne Bowe and Craig Davis and running back Justin Vincent, spent 30 minutes throwing and catching passes for the scouts.
“I ran pretty well caught and caught the ball pretty good,” Bowe said following the workout. “Some balls got lost, but that is the part of the game. When you drop one you just have to get up and catch the next one. My main concern today was my speed. I played fast and I ran great routes. It really was not a big thing but, that is what they wanted to see.”
The defensive backs, offensive and defensive lineman and the kickers were also put through various drills by the NFL coaches.
“This was a great day for LSU football and these players,” LSU coach Les Miles said. “I was fortunate to be in the NFL and see several of these workouts, but I don’t know if I have seen a workout where there was as much talent as this. I think the NFL was unbelievably represented.
“The opportunity for our guys to exhibit and show their talents and hopefully be drafted as high as they wish, this was a big day. I saw our guys and I think they performed very well. JaMarcus (Russell) threw extremely well. I think our guys caught the ball well. We ran great 40s.”
Some of the highlights on the day for the Tigers include Bowe running a 4.40 40-yard dash and defensive back Daniel Francis being clocked at 4.41. Davis ran a 4.44 in his first 40-yard dash and then followed that with a 4.41 clocking.
Russell, who only participated in the throwing drills and the 40-yard dash, was clocked at a 4.83 in the 40.
Defensive back Sammy Joseph had the best leap in the broad jump, going 10-feet, 9-inches, while LaRon Landry and Francis each went 10-6.
The vertical leap was led by Landry, who went 38 inches, followed by Bowe at 37.5 inches.
Chase Pittman and Brian Johnson both posted the highest number of repetitions in the 225-pound bench press, going 26 times each. They were followed by Peter Dyakowski with 23 reps and Doug Planchard with 22.
Player Quotes
Dwayne Bowe
On today’s performance…
“I was feeling pretty good. I ran pretty well caught and caught the ball pretty good. Some balls got lost, but that is the best part of the game. When you drop one you just have to get up and catch the next one. My main concern today was my speed. I played fast and I ran great routes. It really was not a big thing but, that is what they wanted to see.”
On JaMarcus Russell’s performance…
“He did phenomenally well. His was on the money. His step and his were great. I think he did a great job today.”
On how he felt today…
“I feel like this is my job. You just have to come out here everyday and do what you have been doing for the last three years. I do it every Saturday and now it is time to do it every Sunday.”
On his draft status…
“I really don’t know right now. I am not worried about it until that day. I am just going to keep doing what I do everyday, get up and work out and try to get better.”
March 29th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
# Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
I was here yesterday? Day before? rest of week, morning evening and night?
Wrong Pedo…see..YOU WERE CHALLENGED TO POST MY TIMES..like you do when you think you have something on me..except this time? lol…NOTHING..because you couldn’t find anything….point is…DO YOU REALLY HAVE ME ON GOOGLE ALERT?
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THANKS FOR PROVING MY POINT DUMMASS! I was here last night. I was here Saturday. It’s nice when you are not here. We can actually have decent conversations and don’t have to spend time sh**ing on your face! That’s the point!
March 29th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Hmmm…lol…A YEAR AGO…
Mistabrown Says:
April 29th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Hey OakGlenn!
lmao
Mention your name anytime of the day you pop up within 5 mins, some things never change eh lil feller.
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NOW…HOW ODD IS THAT?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
OMG..lol…HEY, DUMBASS…YOU JUST GOT DONE SAYING I’M HERE MORNING, NOON, AND NIGHT..EVERY DAY..EVERY SINGLE DAY..after I call you on it, you then admit I’M NOT?
So..dumbass…I call you a liar, and you’re so stupid, you don’t realize you just said..”YOU’RE RIGHT”??
Read below, moron, lol..and yeah…THANKS FOR PROVING MY POINT, IDIOT.
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
# Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
I was here yesterday? Day before? rest of week, morning evening and night?
Wrong Pedo…see..YOU WERE CHALLENGED TO POST MY TIMES..like you do when you think you have something on me..except this time? lol…NOTHING..because you couldn’t find anything….point is…DO YOU REALLY HAVE ME ON GOOGLE ALERT?
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THANKS FOR PROVING MY POINT DUMMASS! I was here last night. I was here Saturday. It’s nice when you are not here. We can actually have decent conversations and don’t have to spend time sh**ing on your face! That’s the point!
March 29th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=5200&ATCLID=827035
picture of Jamarcus fat ass running 40 yard dash hahahahahaa.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
It’s TOO easy with an arrogant Lying Dead Beat Dad like dummass wack-o. Tooooooo easy. Where’s mistabrOwn? Even HE poses more of a challenge than this beaten down arrogant loser dead beat plagiarist.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Rock, I dont want Mcnabb. He is a little long in the tooth, and if we dont upgrade this oline is going to get killed… I would rather see us go get Troy smith,
or use the 4th to get Dan Lefevour… I definetly would not give up Aso, a first or a second, plus 20 mill a year to get this guy…. no freaking way.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Id give up a conditional 3rd rounder. With the possibility of it being a 2nd based on performance.
If we land McNabb and draft decent we should be able to win the West.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
I’m sorry, Oakdork…is that a white flag waving?
In other words, you just had your sorryass handed to you…AGAIN..and now you’re looking for brown?
lol…too easy..
Speaking of too easy…the other day?
Your idiot take?
You didn’t think I wasn’t going to slam that down your throat, did you?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Ricky has a point. Sey Bush doesn’t show up unless he’s here
kind of like Beeecham stalks Kelly…
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Don’t you think it’s stranger that someone would research a bunch of prior posts of one of the posters? That seems PRETTY strange to me now doesn’t it?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
You dont upgrade this oline mcnabb, brl, grades, frye, and tom cable will get killed….
March 29th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Think I’m going to shred you…nice and slow, OakDork…J Just so much more fun that way. I warned you…don’t mess with the big boys..you just seem to always get torched.
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
Plunketthead Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
McGloughan was supposed to be one of the better GM’s, was he not?
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He’s been there for years. What has he done? Other than Patrick Willis, they have a ton of lst round busts or underperformers.
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Dumbass…I told you before…you can’t discuss the Raiders..don’t try and discuss the Niners.
Ever hear of Gore? Only led the NFC in rushing.
Ever hear of Crabtree?
Every hear of Vernon Davis?
Ever hear of Staley?
Oh..LOL..that’s right..you also stated that you GUARANTEED that Crabtree wouldn’t sign, that Al Davis KNEW Crabtree would not sign, and that Crab would go back into the draft next year…another one of your head up ass comments, OakDork.
And let’s look at your idiot replies to the above…you dumbass…
READY TO GET LAUGHED AT AGAIN, MORON?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Id give up a conditional 3rd rounder. With the possibility of it being a 2nd based on performance.
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so give up a pick in next year’s draft, eh? I like it!
how about just the 3rd rounder next year and their choice of either Morrison or Howard?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
I’m sorry, Oakdork…is that a white flag waving?
In other words, you just had your sorryass handed to you…AGAIN..and now you’re looking for brown?
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
You’re posting mistabrOwn posts, and you’re claiming others are waving the white flag?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
YOU ARE DELUSIONAL!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
March 29th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Or give up the 2nd rounder and Draft:
1st- o line/d line
2nd- McNabb
3rd- o line/d line
4th- LB
5th- oline
5th- cb
7th- fb
7th- best available
March 29th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
I answered EVERYONE OF THOSE AND YOU RAN AWAY!! Go find the answers. Don’t run away like a Dead Beat Dad, Dead Beat Dad!
March 29th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
They are looking to replace Joe Staley..
· Richochet Says:
March 27th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Staley was a steal…DUMBASS..
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That SHOULD HAVE BEEN YOUR HINT, moron, but, lol….hell no…you still insist on setting yourself up.
I THEN POST TO YOU:
Why do this to yourself, moron?
Staley is the 49ers best lineman..he’s rated as one of the steals of the draft…YOU FREAKING DUMBASS..
LOL..you need to stop making this so easy for me.
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AGAIN, YOU IGNORANT FLEA, THAT SHOULD HAVE TIPPED YOU OFF TO SHUT UP, lol…but…nope..it’s Oakglenn..the board beyotch…soooooo
Seymour Bush Says:
March 27th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Staley: Started at RT, didn’t work out, moved to LT and is now looking to be replaced!
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RICHOCHET: Yes, LMFAO..you stupid ignorant waste of space…Staley was so good IN HIS ROOKIE CAMP, HE BEAT OUT THE STARTER FOR RIGHT TACKLE.
Got that, OakDork?
He was SO SOLID AS RIGHT TACKLE, THE NINERS IN YEAR TWO PUT HIM ON THE QB’S BLIND SIDE, you ignorant dumbass…Where Staley played EXCELLENT EACH AND EVERY GAME UP UNTIL HE GOT HURT IN WEEK 10 LAST YEAR, moron.
I INFORMED YOUR IGNORANT ASS THAT HE WAS THE NINERS BEST LINEMAN. See..you should have actually checked before you stupidly set yourself up for me to laugh at your stupid ass.
DUMBASS..lol…yes….LMFAT AT YOU, DUMBASS.
This is up there with some of your really ignorant takes, silly boy.
Yeah, Pedophile, Going to be laughing at you for a long time on this one, moron.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Id give up a conditional 3rd rounder. With the possibility of it being a 2nd based on performance.
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so give up a pick in next year’s draft, eh? I like it!
how about just the 3rd rounder next year and their choice of either Morrison or Howard?
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ya. id give them morrison and next years 3rd.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
You RAN AWAY! Go Find the answers. They are there for you! Lying cheating Dead Beat! That is one thing you are good at wack-o! Running and hiding. Dead Beat Dad!
March 29th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Oakdork? lol…I haven’t yet begun to torch that idiot take…going to do it slowly
So you don’t do your usual “run and hide like a little beyotch”..just like the other day..where I called it…AND AFTER I LEFT, YOU CAME BACK..like a worm.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
I would rather see us go get Troy smith,
or use the 4th to get Dan Lefevour…
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Thec: I wouldn’t give up Nnamdi either, because that means we’re drafting another corner!
or we inherit a zone corner in return and get DeAngelo Hall 2.0
Smith or Rosenfels for a 5th rounder or that Chippewa QB in the 4th are much less risky behind a shaky line. thats true.
I would hope that the O-Line is a top priority regardless of who is behind center !!!
March 29th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
What about the other 70 draft picks Wack-o? You dealt with one. What about the other 70! One down, 69 to go!!
March 29th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
2011 is going to be a tough draft, i would not give up any other picks in 2011. we will have to many holes still left based on past drafts…
March 29th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Or are you going to run away again?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Thec07 Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
You dont upgrade this oline mcnabb, brl, grades, frye, and tom cable will get killed….
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upgrading the playcalling, QB play, running game will do a lot for that line.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Suuuure you are Wack-o! You’re a wack job dude. You are a lying, dead beat dad. Why don’t you tell us about how good you are with your kids while you are on the internet trolling? Tell us about that?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
For once, I have to agree with Jerry. McNabb is not the second Rich Gannon. He’s a QB with a great past, a questionable present and not much future. Is he worth giving up a 2nd round pick for? No.
JaMarcus Russell is too expensive and too long out of LSU to need a mentor or a minder. If Russell can’t motivate himself, equip himself, better himself to beat out two journeymen Pros like Gradkowski and Frye he should be cut. No messing. He’s paid to start. Bringing in a stop-gap like McNabb is just very expensive denial.
And if Russell is cut (or explodes), then the future isn’t McNabb. We will need another QB of long-term, franchise potential. We are better off drafting Jimmy Clausen at No8 and having him learn behind Bruce and Charlie than we are bringing in McNabb whilst Hue tries to fix the unfixable Russell.
This just smacks of Al Davis playing double or quits over JaMarcus Russell. Davis hates the thought that Kiffin was right and that he should have drafted Calvin Johnson. Any move for McNabb has nothing to do with logic or strategy. It would just be ego-fuelled desperation.
Today, Sam Bradford put on the best QB pro-day performance since Russell’s epic firework display at LSU. The difference is that Bradford has the mentality, the desire, the determination to be the real thing. Russell is over-hyped, over-weight, over-blown and over his time.
Cut Russell, draft Clausen.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Thec07 Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
2011 is going to be a tough draft, i would not give up any other picks in 2011. we will have to many holes still left based on past drafts…
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2011 is also not gonna have as much talent…
March 29th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
raiders backfield cj spiller ,mike bush,marion barber
March 29th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Don’t you think it’s stranger that someone would research a bunch of prior posts of one of the posters? That seems PRETTY strange to me now doesn’t it?
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Sey Bush: WHAT?
research? who said anything about that?
I just said that it seems like you only show up after he does and the battle begins. Ricky talks football when you’re not around & vice versa, but when you guys are online together it’s a p1ssing contest
March 29th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
POINT: SeymourDumbassOakglen stated the ONLY player that McGloughan picked that worked out was Willis..
Your ignorant ass stated Staley was being replaced…YOU JUST GOT SCHOOLED, FOOL.
Now..onto your next moronic comment.
VERNON DAVIS
Seymour Bush Says:
March 27th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Davis: One good year
RICHOCHET: Hey, dumbass? McC picked him, and last year Vernon Davis was one of the top TE’s IN THE LEAGUE,
5TH IN THE LEAGUE, DUMBASS
…so much for “Only player McC picked that was good was Willis”
So far, MORON, you got beyotch slapped on Staley…AND VERNON DAVIS..
March 29th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Dan Lefevour is going to be a good NFL QB, and he has a good 40 time… I think he was the fastest of all QB’s at the combine…
Statistics
[edit] Passing
Year Games Completions Attempts Comp % Yards TDs Interception QB Rating
2006 14 247 388 63.7 3,031 26 10 146.2
2007 14 355 543 65.4 3,652 27 13 133.5
2008 11 251 376 66.8 2,784 29 6 144.2
2009 14 318 456 69.7 3,438 28 7 150.3
Career 53 1,171 1,763 66.4% 12,905 102 36 142.9
[edit] Rushing
Year Games Rushes Yards Average Touchdowns
2006 14 123 521 4.0 7
2007 14 188 1,122 6.0 19
2008 11 168 592 3.5 6
2009 14 183 713 3.9 15
Career 53 671 2,948 4.4 47
March 29th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Here, wacky, taste some other samples of what others think!
# Nnamdi21 Says:
March 27th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Reek O sh-ite U are a delusional psychopath. Please to fuh-k arf.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Scottish Raider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
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Have Clausen sit and learn behind Grad and Frye? That would be a joke and waste of time.
McNabb is perfect to hold the spot down for the next 4 years while we develop someone behind him. Or Russell takes that paycut and hes the one developing.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Come on DueceDuece, every draft has talent. The Raiders are just horrible in identifying it.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
From Mike Florio:
“Oakland
The mere fact that the Raiders have been linked to McNabb and haven’t had John Herrera issue a statement applying “false rumor monger” to anyone who has reported on this possibility is all the proof we need that they’ve concluded that their investment in JaMarcus Russell was a major blunder.
Getting McNabb could help get them out of their mess. The team has talent; it just needs a leader on the offensive side of the ball. McNabb would be that leader — and he could help turn around a team that has struggled since 2002, a season in which both the Raiders and McNabb’s Eagles fell to the eventual champs from Tampa.”
March 29th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
# Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
So far, MORON, you got beyotch slapped on Staley…AND VERNON DAVIS..
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Wacky, Staley was drafted to play Left Tackle. he could not beat out Barry Sims for the LT spot who was a Raider Castoff. Vernon Davis was widely considered a bust until this year. He has had one good year. You are getting schooled. What’s next? You’re going to tell me Alex Smith is an All Pro?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Scottish Raider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
For once, I have to agree with Jerry. McNabb is not the second Rich Gannon. He’s a QB with a great past, a questionable present and not much future. Is he worth giving up a 2nd round pick for? No.
JaMarcus Russell is too expensive and too long out of LSU to need a mentor or a minder. If Russell can’t motivate himself, equip himself, better himself to beat out two journeymen Pros like Gradkowski and Frye he should be cut. No messing. He’s paid to start. Bringing in a stop-gap like McNabb is just very expensive denial.
And if Russell is cut (or explodes), then the future isn’t McNabb. We will need another QB of long-term, franchise potential. We are better off drafting Jimmy Clausen at No8 and having him learn behind Bruce and Charlie than we are bringing in McNabb whilst Hue tries to fix the unfixable Russell.
This just smacks of Al Davis playing double or quits over JaMarcus Russell. Davis hates the thought that Kiffin was right and that he should have drafted Calvin Johnson. Any move for McNabb has nothing to do with logic or strategy. It would just be ego-fuelled desperation.
Today, Sam Bradford put on the best QB pro-day performance since Russell’s epic firework display at LSU. The difference is that Bradford has the mentality, the desire, the determination to be the real thing. Russell is over-hyped, over-weight, over-blown and over his time.
Cut Russell, draft Clausen.
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I would have no problem with cutting Juggs Russell and then drafting Clausen.
Clausen would be better than Russell from Day One of training camp!
March 29th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Put mcnabb back their with this oline he doenst get to game 4 I will lay a C note down on that one….
March 29th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Here, wacky, taste some other samples of what others think!
# Nnamdi21 Says:
March 27th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
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Sey Bush: so you’re accusing me of doing “research” on battles between you & Ricky, then you go do research in your debate with him?
hypocrite. I don’t like to pick sides. you’re just a real piece of “work”
March 29th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
I POST THE FOLLOWING, SLAMMING YOUR SORRY INEPT ASS TO THE GROUND, SHOVING YOUR WORDS DOWN YOUR THROAT, and all your pedophile ass can muster is rushing to post a comment from one of my other lackeys?
THAT’S IT????
Damn..just lay down, little boy, and admit you’re toast.
That’s freaking embarrassing…lol..
yet…
EXPECTED.
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# Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
POINT: SeymourDumbassOakglen stated the ONLY player that McGloughan picked that worked out was Willis..
Your ignorant ass stated Staley was being replaced…YOU JUST GOT SCHOOLED, FOOL.
Now..onto your next moronic comment.
VERNON DAVIS
Seymour Bush Says:
March 27th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Davis: One good year
RICHOCHET: Hey, dumbass? McC picked him, and last year Vernon Davis was one of the top TE’s IN THE LEAGUE,
5TH IN THE LEAGUE, DUMBASS
…so much for “Only player McC picked that was good was Willis”
So far, MORON, you got beyotch slapped on Staley…AND VERNON DAVIS..
March 29th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Well, Oakdork…you done?
lol…I have more…
come on POS..step up or shut the hell up…
so far you’re tantamount to a flea.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Don’t you think it’s stranger that someone would research a bunch of prior posts of one of the posters? That seems PRETTY strange to me now doesn’t it?
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Sey Bush: WHAT?
research? who said anything about that?
I just said that it seems like you only show up after he does and the battle begins. Ricky talks football when you’re not around & vice versa, but when you guys are online together it’s a p1ssing contest
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Rockstar, that guy fights with half the posters on the blog. That’s exactly what trolls do. The only reason he doesn’t fight with everyone, is he thinks he is outsmarting the others into believing he belongs here.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
DeuceDeuce. McNabb hasn’t got four years left. He’s too beat up, slowing down, over-the-hill. If he had four years left at the top, do you really think the Eagles would be trading him away? A few quarters behind our Oline should finish him completely.
And if you don’t like Clausen, take another in the second like Pike, McCoy or LeFevour.
Russell + McNabb = Expensive disappointment.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
We should cut BRL no prob. 300lbs QB…WTF is that?
So he has been working out, down to 291…WTF is that?
6′6″ should only weight 248….WTF is that?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
You didn’t answer my rebuttal? Why could Staley NOT beat out Barry Simms? How Many good years has Vernon “Bust” Davis had? How’s bout dat Alex Smith? Why are the Whiners looking to replace Frank the Fumble Gore?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
And What About the Other 67 Draft Picks?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Put mcnabb back their with this oline he doenst get to game 4 I will lay a C note down on that one…. Any takers, or in this case GIVERS….
March 29th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
You’re just going to gloss yourself and claim victory? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good one Dead Beat! What a complete Delusional Dead Beat! Hey Dead Beat Dad, where are your kids right now? You have NO IDEA do you?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Richochet: Crabtree
Seymour Bush Says:
March 27th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Craptree: Played half a year?? What A MORON!
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RICHOCHET: McC picked Crabtree, DUMBASS…the same guy YOU GUARANTEED WOULD NEVER SIGN, DUMBASS…the same guy YOU GUARANTEED would go back into the draft next year, DUMBASS..
and the same guy, who, in ONE GAME OUTPERFORMED BEY’S 7 PREVIOUS GAMES…DUMBASS…
Oh..and yeah, in that period he played?
His 48 receptions WERE BETTER THAN ANY WR ON THE RAIDERS, peanut, by far.
Closest was Murphy, with 34 receptions AND HE PLAYED IN ALL 16 GAMES.
Yeah, LMFAO at you replying “Craptree: Played half a year?? What A MORON!”
Yeah…the moron is you, peanut.
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How you doing there, Oakdork? Now I know why you ran and hid after posting the above, the other day.
Hmmmm…you blew it on Vernon, Staley, and Crabtree…
Ouch…
Give up, fool?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Thec07 Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Put mcnabb back their with this oline he doenst get to game 4 I will lay a C note down on that one….
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Put McNabb back there and the pash rushers arent pinning thier ears back with no second guess.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
# Thec07 Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Put mcnabb back their with this oline he doenst get to game 4 I will lay a C note down on that one…. Any takers, or in this case GIVERS….
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McNabb is actually a pretty decent sized guy. More so than you would think, and his mobility is a real help with a marginal Oline. But I don’t think he would get to Week 10.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Holy Moly, just learnt that McNabb is Hue Jackson’s cousin.
Happy Families.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
RICHOCHET: McC picked Crabtree,
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WHAT ARE YOU THE DUMMBEST GUY ON EARTH? HEY MORON, Crabtree has played what 8 games? That makes him some sort of All Pro? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
March 29th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
RD1 CJ SPILLER rb RD2 EVERSON GRIFFEN de RD3 BRANDON SPIKES mlb RD4 TONY PIKE qb RD5 CHRIS SCOTT ot RD5 CHRIS GARRETT rb/kr RD7 ZOLTAN MESKO punter
March 29th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Crabtree has played what 8 games? That makes him some sort of All Pro?
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he looked that way compared to DHB last year!
March 29th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
# Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Richochet: Crabtree
Hmmmm…you blew it on Vernon, Staley, and Crabtree…
Ouch…
Give up, fool?
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Staley couldn’t beat out Barry Simms, Davis has had one good year, and Crabtree has played 8 games. That’s ALL YOU GOT??? You lose. Again. As usual. Al Davis has done better than that!
March 29th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
I’m sorry…see…it was YOU THAT POSTED ALL THAT CRAP ABOUT STALEY…what? Aren’t man enough to admit you’re wrong, and that I schooled your ass?
Was YOU that posted that ignorant crap about Davis…what? No balls? Spineless ass can’t admit you blew it?
Was YOU that posted that ignorant crap about Crabtree…over and over..now? It’s shoved down your throat..and you’re reduced to posting SOMEONE ELSE’S comments, to me..hoping it covers up the fact I slapped you down?
And now? Where are my kids? THEY’RE IN SCHOOL, YOU MORON..WHERE SHOULD THEY BE??
That’s it??
That’s all you have is why am I slapping you around, instead of playing with my kids?
THAT’S IT?? lol…damn…
No wonder you changed your name..
now, read below, and admit you’re an idiot.
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
You’re just going to gloss yourself and claim victory? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good one Dead Beat! What a complete Delusional Dead Beat! Hey Dead Beat Dad, where are your kids right now? You have NO IDEA do you?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Crabtree has played what 8 games? That makes him some sort of All Pro?
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he looked that way compared to DHB last year!
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No one on Earth thought DHB was a more pro ready polished receiver than Crabtree. DHB was not a more pro ready polished receiver than Louis Murphy.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Donovan McNabb trade rumors have more legs than a centipede.
-David White (twitter)
March 29th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Lets hope the old man doesn’t overpay for McNasty!
The interesting thing about this that OC Hue Jackson and McNabb are cousins! That might make the deal happen!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5038866
March 29th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
I’m sorry…see…it was YOU THAT POSTED ALL THAT CRAP ABOUT STALEY…what? Aren’t man enough to admit you’re wrong, and that I schooled your ass?
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ARE YOU THE DUMBEST PERSON ON FREAKING EARTH? The point was McCloughan drafted POORLY. You have barely named one guy: Staley and even he couldn’t beat out a Undrafted LT, moved to RT and now moved back. So you have named one guy out of SEVENTY! And you are claiming victory! Are you retarded?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
# Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Richochet: Crabtree
Hmmmm…you blew it on Vernon, Staley, and Crabtree…
Ouch…
Give up, fool?
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Staley couldn’t beat out Barry Simms, Davis has had one good year, and Crabtree has played 8 games. That’s ALL YOU GOT??? You lose. Again. As usual. Al Davis has done better than that!
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WHAT????
oH GEEZ…can someone help him here?
Simms?
Staley couldn’t beat out Simms? DO YOU EVEN READ ANYTHING ABOUT BAY AREA FOOTBALL?
Staley was a beast, you fool. I wish the Raiders had taken him…he kicked ASS IN CAMP, YOU FOOL, AND EARNED THE JOB OUTRIGHT…did so well, they switched him to the blind side.. STALEY HAS STARTED EVERY SINGLE GAME SINCE COMING INTO THE LEAGUE, YOU MORON…
Simms replaced Staley after he got injured, you dumbass…how is that beating him out? HE WAS ON IR?
And Simms? He was just RESIGNED, TO BE A BACKUP TO STALEY, BECAUSE HE DID SUCH A GOOD JOB REPLACING HIM LAST YEAR…
lol…man…you’re going down in flames,
March 29th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Mike Vick’s brother Marcus plays QB. his cousin Aaron Brooks does too. that didn’t help them land backup QB jobs in Atlanta, did it?
Carson Palmer’s brother Jordan backs him up in Cincy though …
March 29th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
I’m not down with you, Oakdork
Seymour Bush Says:
March 27th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Gore: two good years, and now the Whiners are looking to get someone else
RICHOCHET:
Yep…another “going to have LOTS of fun” with this one.
First off, shyte for brains, Gore last year was 4th in the NFC in YPG, you stupid fool. Even missing two games was still 5th in the NFC, and 11th in the league in total yards.
Quit with the idiot comments, fool. Niners aren’t looking for anyone. They’ve made it very clear Gore is their guy, and everyone knows it…except you.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Keep talking about Staley! I want to know about the other 69 guys McCloughan drafted. How’s Nate Clements? Didn’t draft him. How’s about Walt Harris? Na. Michael Lewis, nope. Takeo Spikes? Nope. Franklin is a good player. didn’t draft him. Justin Smith? uh uh. Alex Smith? yeah, and he sucks. Glen Coffee? Yup, looking to replace him too.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
Jerry,
when jusging McNabb’s performance vs. Oakland, remember that the Philadelphia OLine that went up against us was heavily depleted and McNabb had no time to throw. I realize that we have a BAD OLine, but nothing compared to what the Eagles put on the field that day.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Here, wacky, taste some other samples of what others think!
# Nnamdi21 Says:
March 27th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Reek O sh-ite U are a delusional psychopath. Please to fuh-k arf.
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ha ha ha! Ahhh the classics. Seriously though, do fu-hk arf…
March 29th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
The Whiners drafted Glen Coffee in the 3rd round last year and he proved to be basically a bust. Thomas Clayton lead the Whiners in rushing the last two years before this one you complete utter dummass, but you didn’t know that did you? RB is on the top of the Whiner wish list asswipe.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
most of the Raider trade rumors that come about are false. most of the trades with New England were tight lipped before they happened, right? So was Warren from Dungver. DeAngelo Hall?
Gibril Wilson, Javon Walker, Warren Sapp and other were signed without us even knowing the Raiders were interested. Frye, Barnes & Ellis said they had been talking to the Raiders for months before eventually signing and we never knew about it.
It must be somebody in the Eagles organization leaking this info to try and drum up interest from other clubs. It doesn’t seem to be working though, does it? What other teams have expressed genuine interest in McNabb? Rams, Cards, Bills and Vikings all basically said “no” right ? Browns are commited to Delhomme this year (for whatever reason)
March 29th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Staley couldn’t beat out Simms?
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We’re talking about as a rookie you dumb ass. You draft someone that highly, especially on the line, you expect him to come in and start. He couldn’t beat out Sims. So they moved him to the right side where they wouldn’t look stupid for drafting him. Now they have moved him back to the left side where he didn’t even play half the games.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Oakland
The mere fact that the Raiders have been linked to McNabb and haven’t had John Herrera issue a statement applying “false rumor monger” to anyone who has reported on this possibility is all the proof we need that they’ve concluded that their investment in JaMarcus Russell was a major blunder.
Getting McNabb could help get them out of their mess. The team has talent; it just needs a leader on the offensive side of the ball. McNabb would be that leader — and he could help turn around a team that has struggled since 2002, a season in which both the Raiders and McNabb’s Eagles fell to the eventual champs from Tampa.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
do not get to high on mcnabb ,one of our few wins last year was against the eagles 13-9 week 6
March 29th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
You know, this is boring. This wacky guy knows nothing and will never know anything.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
From Mike Florio:
“Oakland
The mere fact that the Raiders have been linked to McNabb and haven’t had John Herrera issue a statement applying “false rumor monger” to anyone who has reported on this possibility is all the proof we need that they’ve concluded that their investment in JaMarcus Russell was a major blunder.
Getting McNabb could help get them out of their mess. The team has talent; it just needs a leader on the offensive side of the ball. McNabb would be that leader — and he could help turn around a team that has struggled since 2002, a season in which both the Raiders and McNabb’s Eagles fell to the eventual champs from Tampa.”
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“all the proof we need.”
So called “writer” or “reporter”. BS. Writers and reporters used to verify facts.
For all we know, Russell’s at 265 and working hard to become an NFL QB…finally.
ALL of it is speculation and THATS all the proof you have.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
# fat kidd Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
do not get to high on mcnabb ,one of our few wins last year was against the eagles 13-9 week 6
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That is exactly right. And in that game, one quarterback looked rattled, could not get plays off, looked inaccurate, while the other looked poised, made some nice reads, threw the ball well, and made a huge play when it counted. Guess which one was which?
March 29th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
fat kidd Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
do not get to high on mcnabb ,one of our few wins last year was against the eagles 13-9 week 6
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The Eagles O line was decimated. King Dunlop at LT against Richard Seymour?
Seriously though…
March 29th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
the Rams O-Line gave up 44 sacks last year.
If they draft Sam Bradford the smart thing to do would be to keep Marc Bulger as an insurance policy … unless they feel confident handing the team to the guy Ryan Leaf groomed at West Texas A&M (Keith Null)
March 29th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
And an instant CLASSIC:
· Seymour Bush Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
And hasn’t Thomas Clayton actually led the Whiners in rushing the last two seasons? Wack-o you HAVE TO TRY to be this STUPID. No one could be as stupid as you naturally.
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Here, because it’s just more fun having you look, and squirm…
http://www.nfl.c om/players/thomasclayton/profile?id=CLA825714
Uh….DUMBASS??
oh…and uh…how many rushing yards do you see there, sweet potato?
NONE… Clayton hasn’t HAD A SINGLE CARRY IN THE NFL, YOU FREAKING DOLT.
Do you even follow the game?
Clayton was put on the practice squad..got in preseason game, then back to practice squad…
AND YOU’RE SAYING HE LED THE NINERS IN RUSHING THE LAST TWO YEARS?? lol…while adding in I would “have to try to be this stupid” to not know that? And “no one could be as stupid as you naturally” FOR NOT KNOWING A PLAYER, ON THE PRACTICE SQUAD, LED THE TEAM IN RUSHING??
Yeah, again, LMFAO…AT YOU.
You’re officially the dumbest cotton ball on this blog. You’re so damn slow you can’t help but crap on your own shoe, OakDork.
NO WONDER YOU KEEP CHANGING YOUR NAME, lol…hell, you should change it every month, considering the stupid crap you post, fool.
Yep, a CLASSIC OAKGLENN FOOT IN MOUTH TAKE..that will be brought back up..for years to come
March 29th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
5pm in Podunk. later gents!
March 29th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Staley couldn’t beat out Simms?
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We’re talking about as a rookie you dumb ass. You draft someone that highly, especially on the line, you expect him to come in and start. He couldn’t beat out Sims. So they moved him to the right side where they wouldn’t look stupid for drafting him. Now they have moved him back to the left side where he didn’t even play half the games.
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WRONG, IDIOT.
Staley beat out Kwame Harris for right tackle, DUMBASS..
Where kwame was benched for the year, dumbass…where the Raiders then picked him up, dumbass.
Sims NEVER beat out Staley, you moron…he backed up Staley…
now shut up.
March 29th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Where’s all the Right Wing Cop Lovers, Now?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7535899/FBI-make-Christian-militia-arrests.html
March 29th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
6 Oct 18 PHI 9 @ OAK 13 Final 49,642 Donovan McNabb
269 Yds (PHI) Justin Fargas
87 Yds (OAK) Zach Miller
139 Yds (OAK)
March 29th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Love watching you squirm, Oakdork.
I told you…don’t mess with the big boys…you always get burned.
Now..after I leave? You can come out and pretend you COULD have defended yourself..but ….you just choose not to…right, worm?
You just got beyotch slapped, and laid there like a child…knowing there wasn’t word one you could say..
Witness that idiot “battled with Simms”…you should read up first, so you won’t come across as weak as you do.
March 29th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
I’m sorry…see…it was YOU THAT POSTED ALL THAT CRAP ABOUT STALEY…what? Aren’t man enough to admit you’re wrong, and that I schooled your ass?
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ARE YOU THE DUMBEST PERSON ON FREAKING EARTH? The point was McCloughan drafted POORLY. You have barely named one guy: Staley and even he couldn’t beat out a Undrafted LT, moved to RT and now moved back. So you have named one guy out of SEVENTY! And you are claiming victory! Are you retarded?
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Being a cross posting pedophile lyingass dog isn’t enough?
Now you’re stupid, and can’t add?
Willis..is who you said was the ONLY player.
I added Gore..you stupidly took me on, and lost.
I added Davis..you stupidly took me on, and lost.
I added Crabtree..you stupidly took me on, and lost.
I added Staley..you stupidly took me on, and lost.
Now..use your fingers, if need be, and see if that adds up to more than the ONE you came up with…
Take your time…
March 29th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
I’m sorry OakDork/Seymour…just have to ask again, before I go…
Uh..Clayton?
the guy you said led the Niners in rushing the last two years??
the guy who hasn’t been in even one regular season game???
lol…care to explain that??
(honestly, the funniest part is you going on and on how stupid I must be for NOT knowing how much better he was than Gore, lol…you fool)
March 29th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
fat kidd Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
do not get to high on mcnabb ,one of our few wins last year was against the eagles 13-9 week 6
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They said the same about Jeff Garcia…”why do we need him Jamarcus beat him to end the season”….
How’d that work.
March 29th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Still rather have McNasty ahead of Juggs, Grads and Frye….
March 29th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
# Thec07 Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Put mcnabb back their with this oline he doenst get to game 4 I will lay a C note down on that one…. Any takers, or in this case GIVERS….
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McNabb is actually a pretty decent sized guy. More so than you would think, and his mobility is a real help with a marginal Oline. But I don’t think he would get to Week 10.
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How do you know what I think??? McNabb is not as mobile as he used to be.. He would not last past week 4, will put money on it…..
March 29th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
A NEW POll.
What name should Oakglen/CaptainBlack/Seymour/26 other names/…come back as??
Now that the above is going to create mental turmoil for the mental midget, I suspect he’ll do what he did when Brownie tormented him with all of Oakdorks idiot quips, shoved back in his face…
So maybe we should beat the rush, and come up with something..maybe a contest or something…
Then Oakglenn..I mean Seymore can pick one.
Choices:
Crappola4eva
I’sIsDummerDanCotton
42HandlesIsNOTTooMany
OpenMouthInsertFoot
Limitless possibilities…
March 29th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Ok let me shut down half my brain so I can relate to Oakglen.
You wont say JaMeatball is a bust in his 3rd year but you call a 3rd RB a bust who was not even starting behind Gore?
LMFAO
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# Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
The Whiners drafted Glen Coffee in the 3rd round last year and he proved to be basically a bust. Thomas Clayton lead the Whiners in rushing the last two years before this one you complete utter dummass, but you didn’t know that did you? RB is on the top of the Whiner wish list asswipe.
March 29th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
McNabb!!
March 29th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Oakglen never dissapoints. He’s on a endless loop of blunders, bloopers, and gaffes.
Oakglen is pretty much the Joe Biden of blogging.
March 29th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
passer ratings j.russell 50.0 c.frye 65.3 b.gradkowski 80.6 d.mcnabb 92.9
March 29th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
QB-McNabb
RB-Bush
RB-Run DMC
WR-Schillens
WR-Murphy
WR-DHB
TE-Miller
March 29th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Like I said from the beginning, if McNabb comes than that means Russell goes.
No way do you trade away a pick for a guy to be a QB for a year, if they did acquire him they will try to add a couple of years to his deal.
So on the flip side, no way do you pay Jamarcus $9 million to sit the bench this year or next.
So sorry, this isn’t a “mentor” approach towards Russell. This is a take a hike approach towards Jamarcus.
March 29th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Thec07 Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
# Thec07 Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Put mcnabb back their with this oline he doenst get to game 4 I will lay a C note down on that one…. Any takers, or in this case GIVERS….
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McNabb is actually a pretty decent sized guy. More so than you would think, and his mobility is a real help with a marginal Oline. But I don’t think he would get to Week 10.
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How do you know what I think??? McNabb is not as mobile as he used to be.. He would not last past week 4, will put money on it…..
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No need to worry about McNastys mobility….he gets rid of the ball quickly and has a strong, accurate arm and the necessary experience and pocket awareness that Juggs does not.
March 29th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
The Whiners drafted Glen Coffee in the 3rd round last year and he proved to be basically a bust. Thomas Clayton lead the Whiners in rushing the last two years before this one you complete utter dummass, but you didn’t know that did you? RB is on the top of the Whiner wish list asswipe.
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SHUT THE HELL UP, IDIOT.
lol…what is it with you??
You say BEFORE this year Thomas Clayton lead the Niners in rushing, for the previous two years??
HE HASN’T PLAYED IN A SINGLE NFL GAME..
Hellllooooooo????? Anybody home?
Because I knew I was going to be rubbing our face in this for a looooong time, and I knew you would post something ignorant, like this, as a diversion, I ALSO POSTED A LINK that showed he has ZERO CAREER YARDS…
zero..dumbass…as in nada.
Yet you still post the above? lol…
At some point it’s not going to be as much fun humbling you, slapping you around, stepping on you, and laughing at you, Oakglenn…..at some point…
I’m just not there yet
March 29th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
qb-sage rosenfels rb-bush rb-cj spiller wr-schillens wr-murphy wr-t.owens te-miller
March 29th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
MistaBrown, I was thinking you got caught up in those milita arrests today.
March 29th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Plus McNasty can make ALL the throws including screens which Juggs seems to have a problem with!
March 29th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
j.russell could be used to run the wildfat i mean wildcat as a blocking qb
March 29th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
The end is nearing for Jamarcus it seems. Boy did he blow it.
March 29th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Interesting…I challenge OakDork to back up his words from the other day..kind of a carrot, so to speak, to get him to commit..
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# Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
I answered EVERYONE OF THOSE AND YOU RAN AWAY!! Go find the answers. Don’t run away like a Dead Beat Dad, Dead Beat Dad!
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He stupidly follows that up with:
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Or are you going to run away again?
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Until I torch your ass, leaving you babbling like a slapped little girl…where you then post:
Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Toooooo easy. Where’s mistabrOwn?
WHERE YOU THEN TUCK TAIL, AND LEAVE.
Game, Set, Match.
March 29th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
the ufl would take jamarcus
March 29th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Question de jour is why the big mystery on JR’s weight?
I know..the batteries died on their electronic scale, so they can’t weigh him…hence the “not sure”.
Should have used DuraCell
March 29th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
QB-McNabb
RB-Bush
RB-Run DMC
WR-Schillens
WR-Murphy
WR-DHB
TE-Miller
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Winning formula….just swap out DHB for JLH and you are all set.
March 29th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
KK,
I have no idea what you’re talking about. Militia arrests? Did Charlie Rangel get arrested for tax evasion?
You’re a well documented buffoon KKKell
March 29th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
UFL take JR?
United Fat Lardasses are always taking new members
March 29th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
The UFL….lol. I went to two UFL games last year, watched Losman play against Brooks Bollinger and one other dude.
Jamarcus would have his hands full. Some of those guys played with some serious desperation, mostly the QB’s and RB’s.
Jamarcus didn’t show up for the media sessions for his big game on NFLN on Thursday night in 2008. Think he would show up for only the Las Vegas Review Journal and the Orlando Sentinel on teleconference?
March 29th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
who did charlie rangel play for?
March 29th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
You guys talk about Mcnabbs mobility as if its a given. Have you guys watched him play… He is limited…
March 29th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
well, if JaBriskett is up to 290lbs now, make him play tackle. Wait, he’s even too slow to play tackle.
March 29th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Donovan McNabb trade rumors have more legs than a centipede.
-David White (twitter)
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Thank you Lord! Please, oh please, deliver us a REAL QB!
Please don’t subject us to another year of sub-par QB play from “JaDavis and Gym Rats”
Please bring in McNabb…this is a no-brainer
Those of you who love JaDavis…forget it.
Those of you that love the Gym Rat…look at it this way…if the Gym Rat can light it up in 2 games…think what a real QB with a real arm and real QB skills can do.
Division contenders as soon as trade is announced.
Al, you know damn well this is your best shot to put a winner on the field
March 29th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Raiders want their receivers to run deeper routes does mcnabb have the arm strenght?
March 29th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
I cant remember one fly pattern to DHB last year.
March 29th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
“does mcnabb have the arm strenght?”
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Yeah he does, he can sling it.
March 29th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
qb-sage rosenfels rb-cj spiller rb-charlie rangel wr=chaz schillens
March 29th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Afternoon Fellas,
So I’d imagine the old man has had discussions with the coaching staff reagarding McNabb.
Do you think they’re 100% behind the trade, if it can be done?
I’ll go way out on a limb and answer for them… YES.
Make it happen AL.
March 29th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
al davis might be in his last year as dictator
March 29th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
there really aren’t any other justifiable options out there. I say fine, go ahead and do it. DM as #1 and Grad as #2. Finally we are seeing that the organization has given up on JR and admitted that he is a bust.
March 29th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
There is a perception out there that Al hasn’t given up on Russell, and therefore is not concerned with only getting McNabb for 1 year. The theory is that he buys Russell one more year to learn under a guy who taught Vick quite a bit last year, as per Wiley on NFL Live.
March 29th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
Over the past five years, McNabb has played an entire 16 game season exactly once.
March 29th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
And still had way more yards and td’s than all three on our roster now….
March 29th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
“Over the past five years, McNabb has played an entire 16 game season exactly once.”
that’s fine, #2 will be Grad.
March 29th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
I’d like to see a list of all QB’s that have played an entire 16 game season in the last 5 years.
March 29th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
There really isn’t a choice but to get McNabb.
You can’t depend on 290lbs of JaDavis who, as Herm Edwards says, is eating himself out of the leaague.
You can’t seriously want to go with the Gym Rat and expect to win….not with a 3x cut journeyman.
Al DAvis is trying to win…I’ll give him that…no way he volunarily goes out there with the Gym Rat as his only viable alternative to QB.
If the Raiders want to “try” and win…gotta bring in McNabb…and it would be an absolute steal! This guy is a player!
March 29th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Donovan McNabbs bench press max is only 455lbs
March 29th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
oh no ! jerrys back
March 29th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Does StrahanManNY ring a bell?
……………
No.
But interestingly enough, some moron posting under that name was picking a fight with me the other day, for what it’s worth.
March 29th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
McNabb would be an upgrade over Russell, but anything would be an upgrade over Russell. The way reasonably mobile quarterbacks like Gradkowski and Frye got beat up last season, any qb for the Raiders needs to be able to run for his life; McNabb can walk for his life. It’s too bad there’s nobody in the league stupid enough to give up a draft choice for Russell. Even if he was 271, that’s still more than 35 pounds overweight. And my money is on 290.
March 29th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Where’s all the Right Wing Cop Lovers, Now?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7535899/FBI-make-Christian-militia-arrests.html
………..
Their own frankenstein is turning on them, isn’t it?
March 29th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
so u actualy believe that 6 foot six.. big country black muhfukka supposed to be weighing in at 236 pounds ? get serious ..
March 29th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
# vegas raider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
The end is nearing for Jamarcus it seems. Boy did he blow it.
…………..
He blew it? And Al came out of it unscathed?
March 29th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
hed be starving at 250 ….
March 29th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
al came out of it unscathed ? well QUINCY CARTER blew it and noone called for jerry jones resignation
March 29th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
well obviously the boy cant walk by a in and out burger joint
March 29th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Jerry Jones is not 29-83.
March 29th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
If Grads were able to get the attention of the Offense (as compared to JaMarcus)
Imagine what Mcnabb could do for the unit.
Still have to protect Him, but lets hope the old man can do the deal.
Then work on keeping McNabb upright for 16 games.
March 29th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Al Davis does not come out unscathed…quite the contrary…his shoddy organization enabled the worst in JaDavis….the lack of discipline, lockerroom leadership, chemistry and coaching respect enabled JaDavis to feel like he could be overweight and indifferent.
Oh well…too bad…its Al’s money.
Let’s get McNabb in here…it will be interesting and we can’t do any worst as far as how the team finishes
March 29th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Bradford at #8?
March 29th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
And an instant CLASSIC:
· Seymour Bush Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
And hasn’t Thomas Clayton actually led the Whiners in rushing the last two seasons? Wack-o you HAVE TO TRY to be this STUPID. No one could be as stupid as you naturally.
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Here, because it’s just more fun having you look, and squirm…
http://www.nfl.c om/players/thomasclayton/profile?id=CLA825714
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AAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I was joking and this moron had to go run and look it up because he doesn’t know what the hell he is talking about. Take up cooking wack job. Or better yet, go be something other than a dead beat dad to your kids.
AAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
March 29th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
RaiderNsuede Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Bradford at #8?
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Less likely than Suh at #8.
If He were there?….
March 29th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
The Raider annual Flashy FA signing designed to put butts in the seats, fails, annually.
March 29th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Hi Kell,
Were you referring to McNabb?
March 29th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Ok let me shut down half my brain so I can relate to Oakglen.
You wont say JaMeatball is a bust in his 3rd year but you call a 3rd RB a bust who was not even starting behind Gore?
LMFAO
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See this is why Dumb relates SO WELL to Dumber! Gore has excelled. Coffee has not. They play behind the same offensive line. QB is MUCH HARDER to pick up than RB. In fact, and I will say this sllooooowwwwwllly so you can get it, “QB might be the SINGLE HARDEST position to play in all of sports”. But since you are a complete PROVEN MORON, you still don’t understand do you? And the best part is Dead Beat Dad uses YOU for quotes!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
March 29th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Yep.
March 29th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Kell, Do you loke the idea of McNabb as a Raider?
I do.
Football reasons only. But He would sell some tickets for sure.
March 29th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
RaiderLen
I’m ambivalent about the McNabb trade possibility.
The Raider’s biggest problem is Al Davis’s management.
March 29th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
KoolKell,
What else can we do? Davis not going anywhere and McNabb is a legit QB.
Won’t solve all the problems…bad draft picks, bad contracts, lousy coaching…but hell, McNabb could make things interesting for us.
And if it doesn’t work, it’s not like its going to set the franchise back or anything.
No way in hell I want to watch a season with JaDavis and the Gym Rats as the Qbs
March 29th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
# SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
al came out of it unscathed ? well QUINCY CARTER blew it and noone called for jerry jones resignation
…………..
What does Quincy Carter have to do with JaMarcus Russell?
March 29th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Fair enough Kell.
The old man needs some help no doubt.
He won’t be retiring by choice, so anything that looks to be an improvement for the Team…I hang my hat on that.
March 29th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Ok let me shut down half my brain so I can relate to Oakglen.
You wont say JaMeatball is a bust in his 3rd year but you call a 3rd RB a bust who was not even starting behind Gore?
LMFAO
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See this is why Dumb relates SO WELL to Dumber! Gore has excelled. Coffee has not. They play behind the same offensive line. QB is MUCH HARDER to pick up than RB. In fact, and I will say this sllooooowwwwwllly so you can get it, “QB might be the SINGLE HARDEST position to play in all of sports”. But since you are a complete PROVEN MORON, you still don’t understand do you? And the best part is Dead Beat Dad uses YOU for quotes!!
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And BTW, Coffee is NOT a 3rd year RB. But you knew that too, didn’t you? hahahahaha.
March 29th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
SnB
I hear ya, but that’s about the most excitement I can work up over the deal.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
The Raider annual Flashy FA signing designed to put butts in the seats, fails, annually.
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That’s actually not true. Most early Raider games are sellouts. Once the losing starts, so do the no shows and lack of ticket sales. There is no difference here than anywhere else for the most part. But if you went to games you would know that.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
Donovan McNabb’s career span and Al Davis’ lifespan are about equal.
For that it makes sense. Al Davis might saddle up to McNabb for the rest of his life and try to win another Bowl.
For that, I would give Al kudo’s.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
The “oh, well Al isn’t going anyhwere” argument doesn’t trip my trigger either.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Bush
Bullsheet, there’s isn’t anything you now about the Raiders that I don’t know.
The Raiders had 1 sellout all year, the home opener.
Lowest attendance in the league.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
# RaiderNsuede Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Bradford at #8?
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Bradford will not be there at #8 my friend. He is the marquee Q in this draft, had his pro day today and by all accounts did not disappoint, and with St.Louis, Cleveland, Seattle, and Washington all desperately needing Q’s, I don’t think he stands a chance. If he was there, grab him.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
fat kidd Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Raiders want their receivers to run deeper routes does mcnabb have the arm strenght?
^^^^^^^^^
haha….does McNabb have the arm strength??
What do you think Fat Kidd?
Have you ever seen the Eagles play before?
March 29th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
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$ 1200 o.b.o,.
found it on craigslist
March 29th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Bush
Bullsheet, there’s isn’t anything you now about the Raiders that I don’t know.
The Raiders had 1 sellout all year, the home opener.
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By the time of the 3rd Home game last year, the team was 1-4. Read my post again.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
realmaddentraitor , never speak toward me again
March 29th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
u fukkin 49er spy ….. quincy carter sukked as much as russell anyway judas.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Or else what, Satanwannabe?
March 29th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Oh, yeh, I’m a 49er spy. You got me. Dork.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
And an instant CLASSIC:
· Seymour Bush Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
And hasn’t Thomas Clayton actually led the Whiners in rushing the last two seasons? Wack-o you HAVE TO TRY to be this STUPID. No one could be as stupid as you naturally.
#######################3
Here, because it’s just more fun having you look, and squirm…
http://www.nfl.c om/players/thomasclayton/profile?id=CLA825714
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AAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I was joking and this moron had to go run and look it up because he doesn’t know what the hell he is talking about. Take up cooking wack job. Or better yet, go be something other than a dead beat dad to your kids.
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RICHOCHET: You were joking?
Really??? THEN WHY DID YOU POST THE FOLLOWING AFTER I TORCHED YOUR DUMBASS?
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
The Whiners drafted Glen Coffee in the 3rd round last year and he proved to be basically a bust. Thomas Clayton lead the Whiners in rushing the last two years before this one you complete utter dummass, but you didn’t know that did you? RB is on the top of the Whiner wish list asswipe.
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ANOTHER INSTANT CLASSIC …yeah….ROFLMFAO..damn…I love it
I mean it’s bad enough you say something that stupid…as equally stupid was you coming back and stating “Oh..NOT LAST YEAR, THE PREVIOUS TWO YEARS, YOU COMPLETE UTTER DUMMASS”…
And then you come BACK and state ‘oh..uh…I was just kidding on the first comment”…EXCEPT YOU FORGOT YOU WROTE THE SECOND ONE, YOU FREAKING FOOL.
Damn Oakglenn…talk about crash and burn…you tail tucking pedophile crossposting sorryass joke of a man lying fool.
You’re officially my btch..and that won’t EVER change, lol
thanks to the above.
INSTANT CLASSIC
March 29th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
anyway .. how does the engine run great if it shofts hard ? is it the transmission shifting ?
March 29th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
How’d that feel, tucking tail?
Especially after you stated I would, lol…only to watch you squirm off…waiting until it’s safe…you pansy, Oakdork.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Since Free Agency:
6 winning seasons in the last 20.
3 winning seasons in the last 15.
Do you really believe The 80yr old GM produced this:
09′ 5-11
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-12
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-12
7 Straight Double-Digit Losing Seasons. (NFL Record)
Al Davis:
Lowest attendance in the NFL.
2nd least valuable franchise in NFL.
In the last 7 years:
5 Head Coaches,
8 Starting QB’s.
1 General Manager,
March 29th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
# SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
anyway .. how does the engine run great if it shofts hard ? is it the transmission shifting ?
————–
See??
I told you…don’t chase parked cars.
Now it’s come back to haunt you.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
yeh, Richochet, he’s tucking tail. Tucking tail, man. We’re all tucking tail. We’re frightened of you. Tucking tail.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
By the time of the 3rd Home game last year, the team was 1-4. Read my post again.
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How about the 2nd home game?
March 29th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Pretty frightening numbers, Kell. I’m sure Satan does fear that.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
And I don’t think it’s sunk in with people here. 7 straight seasons with 11 or more losses. You almost have to try to suck that bad.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
koolkell u forgot couple of stats..
coolest fans in the nfl in last 7 seasons.
sexiest cheerleader in the league seven seasons straight.
biggest geritol supply in the vip box .
March 29th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
You’re right on the last 2, Satanwannabe.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
ricochet , u drive a saturn u maroon 5 douche bag . are they reliable cars ?
March 29th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
yeh, Richochet, he’s tucking tail. Tucking tail, man. We’re all tucking tail. We’re frightened of you. Tucking tail.
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Yeah wack job, we are all shaking in our boots. We’re all SOOO scared of the mighty wack job. No, wacky, no one is scared of you. Some of us actually HAVE obligations and friends and families. Speaking of which, it is now after five, wouldn’t a good dad be spending some of that time with his “kids” not being on the internet trolling? Unless by definition you are a DEAD BEAT DAD!
March 29th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
By the time of the 3rd Home game last year, the team was 1-4. Read my post again.
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How about the 2nd home game?
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That game was pretty close to sold out at game time.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Seymour, are you tucking tail because richochet’s here? I know I am. I’m tucking my tail, right now. Tucking tail, man. Tucking tail.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
next one u muhfukkas type tucking tail ima send a demon thru yur computer to swallow yur spirit
March 29th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Henry Lawrence aka Ira might be happy to know that Ricky Martin came out of the closet.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
tucking tail.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
ricochet , u drive a saturn u maroon 5 douche bag .
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
yeh, Richochet, he’s tucking tail. Tucking tail, man. We’re all tucking tail. We’re frightened of you. Tucking tail.
# Nnamdi21 Says:
March 27th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Reek O sh-ite U are a delusional psychopath. Please to fuh-k arf.
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ha ha ha! Ahhh the classics. Seriously though, do fu-hk arf…
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Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
ARE YOU THE DUMBEST PERSON ON FREAKING EARTH?
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good to see soooo many people think soooooo highly of you here wack job.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
1st pick should be ol.second should be NT 3rd should be MLB 4th should be another ol
March 29th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Gotta Say RMR, everyone is terrified of the great and powerful waaaaaackkkkkkkooooooooooo!
March 29th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
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March 29th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Good evening (8:24pm here in Va), Raiders fans! How is everyone tonight?
March 29th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
than after that take the best plyers on the board maybe WR or FB
March 29th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
He called me a peanut once, too, Seymour. I still haven’t quite gotten over it. Every time I see a peanut, it comes back to haunt me. Every time I see a peanut…I tuck tail.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Don’t tuck tail, you sniveling little boy…
Your ignorant ass got slammed..and now you’re reduced to copying some of the dumbest posters on THE BOARD??
SATAN AND REAL MADDENATTENTION WHORE…that’s your backup?
Yep, LMFAO…
Hitting rock bottom, POS…and all courtesy of MOI’
March 29th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Hi Steve, I’m good!
March 29th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
judas… look in the closet .. goodbye traitor
March 29th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
yeh, Richochet, he’s tucking tail. Tucking tail, man. We’re all tucking tail. We’re frightened of you. Tucking tail.
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Yeah wack job, we are all shaking in our boots. We’re all SOOO scared of the mighty wack job. No, wacky, no one is scared of you. Some of us actually HAVE obligations and friends and families. Speaking of which, it is now after five, wouldn’t a good dad be spending some of that time with his “kids” not being on the internet trolling? Unless by definition you are a DEAD BEAT DAD!
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Where’d wack-o the Dead Beat Dad go? I got five bucks says right now wack-o just remembered he was supposed to pick up his kids from day care at 3:15 and is speeding off to go find them.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Did you hear that? Don’t tuck tail, you sniveling little boy!
Sniveling = crying, perhaps runny nose
little = small, as in not fully grown yet
boy= of the male species, yet still a child. Not a man yet.
My god, richochet really knows how to put people down.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Look at MaddenAttentionWhore..going right down the line…posting to every single post made….
“LOOK AT ME…POST TO ME….SAY SOMETHING TO ME”…
And now Oakglenn is counting on MaddenMoron…lol…oh man…this is priceless stuff.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Krappy, you sure are all worked up today, you goofy old goat!
You’re posting your favorite old stats at the rate of a man half your age – and one with bowel control!
It also looks like your gal pal RMR the Cowardly Blogger is getting ready to spring into action – and tell on someone!
Like I always say, if RMR isn’t tattletaling on someone he’s scared of, he’s probably busy hiding in the back of his mom’s station wagon.
Actually, I don’t always say that, but it’s pretty cool, huh?
March 29th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Wack-o your backup is mistabrOwn. Enuff said. But how bout dat Thomas Clayton!
March 29th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
The ladies loved Ricky back in the day, too.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Honestly, how embarrassing is the following, Oakdork?
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
And an instant CLASSIC:
· Seymour Bush Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
And hasn’t Thomas Clayton actually led the Whiners in rushing the last two seasons? Wack-o you HAVE TO TRY to be this STUPID. No one could be as stupid as you naturally.
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Here, because it’s just more fun having you look, and squirm…
http://www.nfl.c om/players/thomasclayton/profile?id=CLA825714
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AAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I was joking and this moron had to go run and look it up because he doesn’t know what the hell he is talking about. Take up cooking wack job. Or better yet, go be something other than a dead beat dad to your kids.
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RICHOCHET: You were joking?
Really??? THEN WHY DID YOU POST THE FOLLOWING AFTER I TORCHED YOUR DUMBASS?
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
The Whiners drafted Glen Coffee in the 3rd round last year and he proved to be basically a bust. Thomas Clayton lead the Whiners in rushing the last two years before this one you complete utter dummass, but you didn’t know that did you? RB is on the top of the Whiner wish list asswipe.
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ANOTHER INSTANT CLASSIC …yeah….ROFLMFAO..damn…I love it
I mean it’s bad enough you say something that stupid…as equally stupid was you coming back and stating “Oh..NOT LAST YEAR, THE PREVIOUS TWO YEARS, YOU COMPLETE UTTER DUMMASS”…
And then you come BACK and state ‘oh..uh…I was just kidding on the first comment”…EXCEPT YOU FORGOT YOU WROTE THE SECOND ONE, YOU FREAKING FOOL.
Damn Oakglenn…talk about crash and burn…you tail tucking pedophile crossposting sorryass joke of a man lying fool.
You’re officially my btch..and that won’t EVER change, lol
thanks to the above.
INSTANT CLASSIC
March 29th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Say Wack job, I thought you said you had kids? Where are they? do you even know?
March 29th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Don’t forget, Richochet, I’m tucking tail, too! Tucking tail, man. Over and out. Tucking tail.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
Oh, I forgot, I’m a cowardly blogger, too. I blog cowardly. I’m scared right now. Of everything. Especially since Beecham and Ricochet are here.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
Actually wack job what’s classic is you going around copying the stats off NFL.com. If you knew anything, you wouldn’t have to “google”. But, shoot, you wake up around noon, google your own name til two, then come here for the rest of the day, don’t you?
March 29th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
HOW FREAKING STUPID CAN YOU BE?
You state one thing…get called on it…YOU THEN TRY AND BACKTRACK AND LIE ABOUT IT…and get called on that…and THEN say “Oh, I was just kidding’??
Dude…lol…you’re officially more pathetic than MR..and that’s pretty low
March 29th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
I thought you were married wacky. Do you have ANY idea where your wife is right now? Obviously not.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
the raiders like to send their receivers deep mcnabb is a west coast qb in other words get rid of it quick
March 29th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
HOW FREAKING STUPID CAN YOU BE?
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! You’re the one looking up Thomas Clayton on NFL donghead and claiming others are stupid?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
March 29th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
I’m sorry…what was that, Oakdork?
You took my paste of a stat that showed you had your head up your ass, and don’t know squat..and you mention why did I HAVE TO GOOGLE IT??
lol…dude…I SHOVED IT DOWN YOUR NECK…
I’ve NEVER HEARD OF CLAYTON PLAYING IN A SINGLE GAME…and knew, DUMBASS, that FRANK GORE IS THE LEADING RUSHER FOR THE NINERS…you moron.
Was your ignorant ass that stated “Clayton is the leading rusher, and you’re a dumass for not knowing that”.
Don’t you feel pretty damn stupid?
Seriously…can you get any more dense?
March 29th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
March 29th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
I have an idea where Richochet’s wife is. Oh yeh, up high. I’m tucking tail, I’m blogging cowardly.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
· Seymour Bush Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
And hasn’t Thomas Clayton actually led the Whiners in rushing the last two seasons? Wack-o you HAVE TO TRY to be this STUPID. No one could be as stupid as you naturally.=============
Uh..Who’s the dumbass?
Take your time, MORON.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Want to see REAL DUMBASS??
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
The Whiners drafted Glen Coffee in the 3rd round last year and he proved to be basically a bust. Thomas Clayton lead the Whiners in rushing the last two years before this one you complete utter dummass, but you didn’t know that did you? RB is on the top of the Whiner wish list asswipe.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
and Oakglen’s answer to the above?
“haha..you had to look it up to prove I’m an idiot..haha”
Wrong.
YOU proved you’re an idiot.
The link gives everyone a chance to laugh along
Courtesy of MOI’
March 29th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Now he’s calling himself “moi”. Adding a little gay, Euro flair to his All American, tough guy persona. I’m tucking tail, Richochet.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
I can see richochet at one of those east bay bars, with all of those tough guys…”do you have a problem with moi?”
March 29th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
I’m sorry, Oakdork…can you explain to me again how Simm’s beat out Staley?
You know..
Seymour Bush Says:
March 27th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Staley: Started at RT, didn’t work out, moved to LT and is now looking to be replaced!
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Oh yeah…and this gem
Wacky, Staley was drafted to play Left Tackle. he could not beat out Barry Sims for the LT spot who was a Raider Castoff. Vernon Davis was widely considered a bust until this year. He has had one good year. You are getting schooled. What’s next? You’re going to tell me Alex Smith is an All Pro?
Pick one, my little POS.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Great. RMR is scared, which can only mean one thing – he’s getting ready to tell on someone!
Instead of handling his battles on his own, the little pansy rattles off an whimpering email to Jerry or the police. But that’s not enough! Then the puss runs onto the blog to “brag” about it.
Kind of like Matt Damon’s character in the Informant! if Matt Damon were played by Meg Ryan. Or Ricky Martin.
Hey Krappy, remind me again what the Raiders record is over the past 7 years? See, I want to crap my pants then run down to my local barbershop where I’ll tell all my geriatric friends that stat 100 times.
Thanks, old dude!
March 29th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Now..how hard was that?
Few slaps upside his head, and Oakdork slithers away…LIKE I GUARANTEED.
Too easy…yet…still fun
Oh..uh…I see you’re still begging for my attention, MaddenAttentionWhore…
sorry dude, I’m not your type.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
That’s right, I’m scared. And I’m getting ready to tell someone. I’m getting ready to tell someone that I just wasted an hour talking to a bunch of dorks on a blog, is what I’m getting ready to tell. Then, it’s back to tucking tail. That’s moi point of view.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Dumb Beeych,
Al Davis just farted, you’d better run to work.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Damn..having so much fun slamming Oakdork…I’ve neglected Kelli.
I should be ashamed of myself.
Hey Kelli, anyone call ya and blow the horn again?
Or did that even happen?
March 29th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
I’m totally begging for your attention, Richochet. Well, wait a minute, am I begging for your attention, or tucking tail? I don’t know if I can do both. See, if I were afraid of you, I’d be trying to avoid your attention. You’ll have to explain this to moi.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
I’m having fun slamming your wife, richochet. Oops, I’m sorry. I’ll tuck tail now. But wait, I want your attention, too. That’s moi style.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
This still stands, AttentionWhore:
Dude, you’re an admitted pansy.
You admit you’re a lying ass dog.
You admit you say one thing, then proudly do another, then say “so what”?
You admit you make bets, but never plan on paying off when you lose.
You admit you have posted as other posters, but so what, others have too.
And you’re the ONLY one who has repeatedly stated how when you get your little panties all bunched up, you rush to call the police and then cry to the mods.
Funny thing is you think the police are laughing WITH you, and not at you.
Even funnier? Your dumbass posted ‘And no, they weren’t laughing at me when they hung up.”
Too easy, Real MaddenAttentionWhore.
And everyone knows all you want is a name…you already posted the disclaimer that if you can’t trust someone, why would you meet them.
Oh..and yes…you definitely SHOULD fear me.
Now…call the police…do a three way call..I want to laugh along.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
What does Beecham do? Why does he have to run when Al farts? That doesn’t sound like a very good job, whatever it is. Yuk.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHA! Looks like your melting down again as usual wack job! sorry you didn’t get the joke and had to get on the internet to post a link. Humour is a sign of intelligence. I shouldn’t have tried that with you. Now I know.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
That’s right, I’m an admitted pansy. I confessed it to a priest. He thought it was funny, too.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Seriously wack job, most peoples kids and wives are home by 6 at night. Yours aren’t. Don’t know where they are do you, Dead Beat Dad?
March 29th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Father, I’m a pansy. He just cracked up, man. Got to have fun at confession.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Reekochit
You’re schizophrenic, yes? You hear voices?
March 29th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
I’m having fun slamming your wife, richochet.
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Everyone is. At 60 a half hour she’s most likely a blast.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
I’m actually honored by Richochet’s long comments directed at me. He gives me the attention I crave. Then I tuck tail. Moi thinks it’s awesome. Tucking tail, man.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
I’m having fun slamming your wife, richochet.
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Everyone is. At 60 a half hour she’s most likely a blast.
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Why don’t you post a link to that.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
She charged you, Seymour? That’s messed up. richochet’s wife lets me slam her for free. I ask her, “who’s it it”. And she says, “MOI”.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Oakdork slithers away…LIKE I GUARANTEED.
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Guess you were wrong as usual.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Reekochit
Why are you so manically desperate to put strangers on the internet down?
You’re schizophrenic, yes?
March 29th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Kell, I’m trying to pretend that richochet’s actually a tough guy. Don’t ruin it for me.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Too late, Oakdork…backtracking and saying you were joking, AFTER YOU REPEATEDLY TRIED TO JUSTIFY YOUR COMMENTS makes you look weak and stupid to everyone…that ship has sailed..dude…and I’ll be reminding you of that ignorant take for a LONG TIME…I mean…Clayton? GUY NEVER TOOK A SNAP??
and you reply…”Oh…not this year…the PREVIOUS TWO YEARS. YOU’RE STUPID FOR NOT KNOWING THAT”..
And now? lol….I ACTUALLY GOT YOU SO FLUSTERED THAT YOU’RE SAYING “JUST KIDDING”?
Damn…am I good, or what?
Seriously…almost like I have you on a string, and watching a little marionette dance..on my whim.
Yep…I’m good
March 29th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Richochet owns a business. Just imagine if you worked at a place and the boss was always on a stupid blog, coming out of the office, looking angry. Going to get lunch, going back on the blog, slamming on the keyboard, all day long, getting pissed when the server’s slow. Just imagine that being your boss. I’d be raiding that cash register.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
Krappy, I know you get all hot and bothered reciting your 1 stat over and over again, but I don’t want you to be a miserable old dog the rest of your life.
How about we find a NEW stat for you to fall in love with and obsess over? It’ll give you a fresh start!
I bet you’d suddenly lease that townhome AND start building the Swiss Chalet!
Actually, uh, probably not.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Beecham, what do you do for a living? You’re on call for when Al Davis farts, I understand? Sounds interesting. Tell us about it.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
BTW..Oakglenn?
My kids? The ones you say “Why aren’t you reading to them”?
“Why aren’t you tucking them in”?
THEY’RE 12 AND 13, lol….you ignorant pedophile.
Kind of past the tuck in stage..or reading too..but thanks for checking.
However, one is at the mall, and the other is playing video games, if you must know.
Oh..and the 13 year old? Just two years younger than your date the other night….you pedo freak.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Reekochit
You’re schizophrenic, yes? You hear voices?
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SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
ricochet , u drive a saturn u maroon 5 douche bag .
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
yeh, Richochet, he’s tucking tail. Tucking tail, man. We’re all tucking tail. We’re frightened of you. Tucking tail.
# Nnamdi21 Says:
March 27th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Reek O sh-ite U are a delusional psychopath. Please to fuh-k arf.
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ha ha ha! Ahhh the classics. Seriously though, do fu-hk arf…
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Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
ARE YOU THE DUMBEST PERSON ON FREAKING EARTH?
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good to see soooo many people think soooooo highly of you here wack job.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
Goodbye, knuckleheads. Time to tuck tail. Moi will be back for more of badass richochet’s attention later. And I was just joking about your wife, richochet. I’m sure you have a great marriage. I’m sure this amount of time you spend online is worked out amicably between you and the misses. Later.
March 29th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
12 and 13. Glad you clarified that. Kids nowadays can raise themselves with the internet so handy. Especially learning from Dead Beat Dad!
March 29th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Have to say, honestly, that even at 30, the use of “hahahaha” is viewed by many as used mostly by insecure people, large majority of them juvenile, to mask issues, usually issues of inadequacy.
What does it say to you, Oakglenn?
· Seymour Bush Says:
March 20th, 2010 at 1:22 am
I am sorry but I have been out all night with a very hot Peruvian woman half my age and I come and see this. All I have to say is this: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHHAHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
March 29th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Hey Krap Krap, what’s the link to that sweet town home again?
I told a few of my ladies that my nutty old pal on the Raider blog is trying to lease a rickety old barn to people and they don’t believe me.
Gotta prove them wrong – got a hot oil rubdown and plate of chili cheese fries riding on this one!
March 29th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Richochet owns a business. Just imagine if you worked at a place and the boss was always on a stupid blog, coming out of the office, looking angry. Going to get lunch, going back on the blog, slamming on the keyboard, all day long, getting pissed when the server’s slow. Just imagine that being your boss. I’d be raiding that cash register.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Wack-o says “How come the receipts seem so low today?”
Wack-o Employee, with pockets bulging with bills, “uh, I don’t know, the economy sucks.”
Wack-o: “Freaking Oakglens to blame for this.”
March 29th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
LMFAO…Oakglenn is rushing around to all of those I enjoy beyotchslapping..and oddly??
the weakest on the board.
The meekest on the board…
Basically the board idiot savants…being that they’ve mastered the fine art of hitting the ON button on their puter.
And how sweet is this?
I NOW HAVE KELLI, MR, AND OAKGLENN viewing each other as cohorts, hoping numbers will help the sinking ship.
It’s like watching a bunch of scared mice…
March 29th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Have to say, honestly, that even at 30, the use of “hahahaha” is viewed by many as used mostly by insecure people, large majority of them juvenile, to mask issues, usually issues of inadequacy.
What does it say to you, Oakglenn?
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HAHAHAHA. Considering that 99.99% of psychologists believe that people who post derogatory things on the internet are talking about themselves, it would appear to me that you have a little itty bitty dik.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
I’m saving this blog
Total meltdown, Oakdork, lol.
and you’re now quoting Kell?
and you’re now quoting MR??
I love it.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Wacky, I got things to do. You bore me. But don’t come back. And you didn’t win anything today, you got taken apart. Badly. Just because you are still here only means you have NO self respect. NONE.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
meant saving this thread, not blog
March 29th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Tuck that tail, little beyotch…not done with you…by a long shot.
GUARANTEED :MRGREEN:
March 29th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
You can tell everyone later about Clayton, ok, pumpkin?
then we’ll discuss how Simms beat out Staley, ok?
And how Gore is on the blocks,..ok?
And how Crabtree wasn’t a good pick, ok?
and how Vernon Davis also was a back pick..according to you..ok?
bye babe
March 29th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Dumb Beeych
Another thing, people I know usually go to Mexico or Hawaii during the winter months.
You’re such a dumb-ass, lol.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
Al Davis Inducted in Bay Area Hall of fame
March 29th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
Reeky
Your schizophrenic delusions are getting the better of you.
Look up the board psycho, it’s crazy.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
If Donovan is brought aboard, what do you place the odds at for how likely it will be that Jamarcus is on the 53 man roster?
50/50?
March 29th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
Just heard that the Raiders are still very much in play for McNabb, and word is that this year’s 2nd rd pick (#39) and this year’s first 7th rd pick (#215) are what the Raiders are offering.
This seems like a very real possibilty, no one else is offering a 2nd round pick this high and the fact that the Raiders are offering a later round pick to sweeten the deal seems to be what is setting them apart from other teams in play for McNabb’s services.
I am just happy that Michael Bush’s name is no longer being mentioned in this whole deal. I know everyone was talking about Nnamdi but, from what I have heard, Nnamdi was never a consideration, it was Bush’s name that was being thrown around.
Also Al is convinced that he doesn’t need a contract extension in place to make this trade. He thinks once McNabb is here they will be able to iron out a long term deal by 2011, in the same fashion as what is going down with Richard Seymour now.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
So Krappy, you’re telling me that your pals at the barbershop – broke old dudes like yourself – vacation for 3 months in exotic locations every year?
Krappy, you and your friends can barely afford a happy meal and a Super Big Gulp – to split.
How in the world can you expect anyone to believe you guys can afford a vacation besides sitting in a kiddie pool in your backyard?
You’re such a silly old goat!
March 29th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
Also forgot to mention that the Hiram Eugene signed his RFA tender today…
March 29th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
Vegas,
If, and hopefully, when McNabb is brought on board then JaDavis is truly at a crossroads.
He will have 1st have to restructure or get cut. If he restructures, then he’s got to be in shape and working while McNabb runs the show.
If Russell does stay around, they probably make him the #3 QB with Gradkowski the #2….
March 29th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
C’mon, Krap Krap – shoot me that link to the town home!
I got a lot riding on this bet, old dude! Seriously bro, these chicks don’t believe you’re actually trying to sell a dilapidated old barn to humans as a real home!
Help me out and I promise I’ll tell them all about how you drive that dopey red Hyundai in whatever cheesy parade happens to roll through your town!
March 29th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
Vegas…90%
Al is stubborn.
Renegotiated mabey, but on the roster for sure.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Dumb Beeych
That townhome is currently pending, but get yourself pre-approved and we’ll talk.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
Reeky
Your schizophrenic delusions are getting the better of you.
Look up the board psycho, it’s crazy.
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I think we fritzed poor wack-o’s brain. He was even more weird and freaky than normal. And he ain’t normal.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
Vegas
Pine Street April 9, East Bay Sick. Should I put you on the guestlist? Time for a flashback and a stripper pole.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
If they trade that 2nd rounder in a McNabb deal then the old man should try to consider trading down from tha #8 spot for once in his life! Get more damn picks!
Otherwise he will go O-Tackle, Dez Bryant or Clausen IMO!
March 29th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
“Pending”?? lol…hasn’t it been “pending” for the last 4 months, Kelli?
Things been on the market for a year…
I still want to know why the other Kane associates (read: entry level realtors) have numerous listings, while you have one tiny pittance?
Ok, let’s take it a step farther..at 450 k, you get 1.5% of that..broker gets the other 1.5%..while the buyers realtor and broker also split 3%.
Gosh Kelli, 1.5% of 450 k?
IF it ever sells, at this rate, if you sell just ONE MORE in the next six months?..you’ll be in the what?
$14,000 a year bracket?
Oh..anyway..I digress…why again is it that you have nothing listed under “Property sold”??
March 29th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
A high second rounder for McNabb? In this draft? That seems an awful lot to pay. I like the deal, I like us getting McNabb, but a lst or a 2nd is highway robbery to me.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
Reeky
Why didn’t your mother smother you when she discovered she gave birth to vermin?
March 29th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
LMFAO…
at 6:02…SEYMOUR BAILS “I HAVE THINGS TO DO”..
comes back…checks to see if it’s safe…a whole 30 MIN LATER…and voila…there’s my little pumpkin, right on cue…POSTING ABOUT ME
TOLD YOU..He’s my puppy..and I’m his hero.
Now…about Staley?
Figure that out yet, Pedophile?
March 29th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Kelli???
Now that was original…haven’t heard that since…3rd grade? 4th?
Anyway…way to load both barrels…
Now..the question was..WHY ARE YOU SUCH A FAILURE?
March 29th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
Currently pending what? Being demolished?
Krappy, let’s get real here – no one is ever going to believe that someone is actually trying to buy that old barn.
You’re already a weird old dude on a blog, don’t make things any worse telling ridiculous tall tales.
C’mon, Krappy. We’re friends and all, but this is really pushing it!
March 29th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Supposedly there is a theory running around Alameda that if the Raiders trade for McNabb that Al would make an offer to T.O.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
ONE LISTING in a year…ONE, Kelli….just ONE
And it still hasn’t sold.
AND YOU HAVE NOTHING ELSE YOU’RE REPRESENTING…
And you’re not out canvassing….
Your sorry fatass is sitting home, doing nothing…all day, every day, and pretty much every night.
So what gives?
You’ve been lying, haven’t you? About that “I can do what I want” stuff? lol….because obviously you live in a small apartment..your wife works..and you do nothing.
So what gives?
March 29th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
They should give the Eagles a 3rd rounder and Thomas Howard for McNabb and their 4th Rounder.
I don’t see the old looney man Al picking a DT at #8, due to the amount of depth at the DT position in this years draft.
If he gets McNabb and doesn’t trade down from #8 he will take an O-Tackle, Bryant or Clausen.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
PFT reporting gaither could be had for less than his 1st round tender.
any takers with a #2 next year.
Yes, I know we…at this time do not have a 1st next year.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
DK
I am hearing Olineman @ #8
March 29th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Supposedly there is a theory running around Alameda that if the Raiders trade for McNabb that Al would make an offer to T.O.
^^^^^^^^
That would make sense to get TO after trading for McNabb.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
# Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
ONE LISTING in a year…ONE, Kelli….just ONE
And it still hasn’t sold.
AND YOU HAVE NOTHING ELSE YOU’RE REPRESENTING…
And you’re not out canvassing….
Your sorry fatass is sitting home, doing nothing…all day, every day, and pretty much every night.
So what gives?
You’ve been lying, haven’t you? About that “I can do what I want” stuff? lol….because obviously you live in a small apartment..your wife works..and you do nothing.
So what gives?
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Are you stalking again wacko? Did I fritz your little brain?
March 29th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
O line @ #8 with McNabb is for sure the way to go.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
Oakglen??
Can you tell me again how you were “just kidding” on the following?
Seymour Bush Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
And hasn’t Thomas Clayton actually led the Whiners in rushing the last two seasons? Wack-o you HAVE TO TRY to be this STUPID. No one could be as stupid as you naturally.=============
THIS WAS AFTER YOU SAID THE NINERS WERE GETTING RID OF GORE…THAT HE’S ON THE TRADING BLOCK, THAT THE NINERS ARE LOOKING FOR A RB..
And of course, you followed it with the “no one can be as stupid” take…
so
tell us all how you were “just kidding” when I busted your ass for being stupid.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Whatever Reekoshyt
You don’t hear me complaining do you?
But YOU, you whine all day. People, been putting you down all your life?
March 29th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
DK
I am hearing Olineman @ #8
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Yeah, I also wouldn’t be surprised ifbeast Center/Guard Pouncey winds up being the pick IF T Williams and Okung are gone.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
DK
I am hearing Olineman @ #8
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Which O-Linemen do you think they are targeting?
Campbell?
March 29th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
Oh..and Oakglen??
Uh…others want to know, as well…about the following…
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
The Whiners drafted Glen Coffee in the 3rd round last year and he proved to be basically a bust. Thomas Clayton lead the Whiners in rushing the last two years before this one you complete utter dummass, but you didn’t know that did you? RB is on the top of the Whiner wish list asswipe.
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Please, LMFAO…TELL ME AGAIN HOW THE ABOVE YOU WERE ALSO “JUST KIDDING”???
:mrgreeen:
You’re so damn stupid, you can’t help but hurt yourself.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Supposedly there is a theory running around Alameda that if the Raiders trade for McNabb that Al would make an offer to T.O.
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That would make sense to get TO after trading for McNabb.
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It makes sense only in the fact that other teams seem to be winning by building good young teams thru the draft. This would be great to trade our 2nd 3rd rounder and 2nd rounder in a deep draft. Great.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Reekoshyt
You’ve been bullied all your life?
Everybody’s whipping boy?
Sissy boy?
What gives?
March 29th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Wacko, you’re getting really really weird. Go away. No one cares what you think. Go somewhere else for your BS
March 29th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
DK
I would think Okung if he is there, which I doubt. I have been thinking Bruce Campbell will be the pick at #8.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
I think AL will draft Campbell @ #8.
Rather have another O LINEMAN…but
March 29th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Wacko is sick. Very sad, very sick, nothing really to live for. He should go far, far away.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Whatever Reekoshyt
You don’t hear me complaining do you?
But YOU, you whine all day. People, been putting you down all your life?
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Come on Kelli…read the above, and tell me you’re proud??
that’s silly grade school crap..”people been putting you down your whole life”???? how is that supposed to be construed as a reply to my question regarding real estate sales.
I asked a legit question. ANYTIME anyone questions MY COMMENTs?? I always step up…every single time. Some agree, some don’t, but regardless, I don’t tuck tail.
See..YOU commented about how fabulous your life is..how most here will NEVER DO WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IN LIFE, how everyone here was “JEALOUS OF YOU”…
So my question is…are you just totally full of crap?
I say you are. I say you’re a kept man. I say you suck as a realtor, and your page that YOU STUPIDLY POINTED TO, proves it. The fact I know where you live says you’re full of it, and maybe..you shouldn’t have sprouted off, acting all that.
But then again, you’re all hot air, aren’t you?
March 29th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Krappy, I know life isn’t going very well for you these days, but we gotta stop with all the fibbing!
The young, good looking dudes of the world look to our elders to set an example. And so far your track record of lying, plagiarizing, racism and pant crapping could only encourage a young Hitler to realize his dreams.
Let’s get it together, old goat – I still believe you can make something of yourself in this big wacky world!
March 29th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
I have Kelli and Oakglen begging me to leave them alone.
I love it
March 29th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Supposedly there is a theory running around Alameda that if the Raiders trade for McNabb that Al would make an offer to T.O.
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That would make sense to get TO after trading for McNabb.
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It makes sense only in the fact that other teams seem to be winning by building good young teams thru the draft. This would be great to trade our 2nd 3rd rounder and 2nd rounder in a deep draft. Great.
^^^^^^^^
Yeah…thats why the old man need to learn how trade down with that first round pick and get more picks!
March 29th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Reekoshyt
What’s it to you? Why is my life so important to you.
You’re desperately unhappy aren’t you?
March 29th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Beech…you doth have high hopes for Quadraphonic Buttcheeks I dare not venture to entertain.
His tasks in life are simple.
Dinner for the Mrs.
Drawing a bath for the Mrs.
Folding her panties with two creases, not three.
Breakfast ready when she expects it.
Dusting, mopping, vacuuming where needed.
And blogging..lol…can’t forget Priority 1.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Richochet Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
I have Kelli and Oakglen begging me to leave them alone.
I love it
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Schizophrenic delusions, nut-bag .
Only in your head, with the other voices.
March 29th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Actually…before I continue with all of Oakglens babble that he totally torpedoed the other day, what’s more important is his rock band.
I so want to know about your hit rock band, when you were 18, Oakdork.
What was the name again?
March 29th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Reekoshyt
Ok, nut-bag, I’ve wasted enough time on you.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
If JaMarcus shows up with McNabb in camp and is his normal slothful self, Al should cut him right away.
If he does, the next day he will be the first owner in NFL history to sue a former draft pick for breach of contract.
(Before somebody gets on here an tells me about union rules and how it can’t be done and all that, please realize that I’m joking.)
Well, half-joking.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Reekoshyt
What’s it to you? Why is my life so important to you.
You’re desperately unhappy aren’t you?
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Ahh…we’re getting to the crux of the matter…
See, it matters not to me…IT’S WHAT MATTERS TO YOU…
Wasn’t I that blathered on about your wonderful life..was you.
Wasn’t I that stated everyone here was below you, that was YOU.
Wasn’t I that stated “You’re all jealous of me”..that was you.
I simply was the messenger that stated your message was total BS.
Quite simple, actually.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
edward teach Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
If JaMarcus shows up with McNabb in camp and is his normal slothful self, Al should cut him right away.
If he does, the next day he will be the first owner in NFL history to sue a former draft pick for breach of contract.
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If they sign McNabb that basically should put an end to the Jamarcus era. It probably won’t, but it should. The idea might be to keep McNabb just for the one year he is under contract to mentor Russell. But spending a 2nd rounder for that?
March 29th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Reekoshyt
Ok, nut-bag, I’ve wasted enough time on you.
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I’m sorry…uh…what?
You haven’t said anything..you’ve ignored all requests for you to prove you’re not a lying kept man.
My question was simple…why don’t you do anything all day??
is that that hard for you?
WHY IS IT YOU DON’T WORK, WHILE YOUR WIFE DOES???
Ok…I get it..the answer bothers you, don’t it?
I’ll try and be sensitive to your feelings, kelli..
No..really…I will.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
wacky you are a constant embarrassment to yourself. you are a beaten down little boy. Please leave with what tiny amount of self respect you have. You have no respect here.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
You would think somebody’s seen JaMarcus Russell in the last few weeks and taken a picture.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
edward teach Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
If JaMarcus shows up with McNabb in camp and is his normal slothful self, Al should cut him right away.
If he does, the next day he will be the first owner in NFL history to sue a former draft pick for breach of contract.
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If they sign McNabb that basically should put an end to the Jamarcus era. It probably won’t, but it should. The idea might be to keep McNabb just for the one year he is under contract to mentor Russell. But spending a 2nd rounder for that?
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Wow..mr current affairs.
What a firm grasp there, Oakdork…except that it’s only been said A HUNDRED TIMES..but hey…diversion posts…I love em
March 29th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
If Al signs McNabb, It…imo will not be with the intention of having him around for 1 season.
McNabb is 33yrs old. Al is 80. He probably thinks McNabb has at least 5 years left on the tires.
If Al trades for McNabb, it’s for the next few years.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
wacky you are a constant embarrassment to yourself. you are a beaten down little boy. Please leave with what tiny amount of self respect you have. You have no respect here.
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On the contrary…it’s you that is the board fodder, little boy.
for that matter, seems more than a few enjoy the slapdowns you’ve been getting..oh..not YOU, of course, but yeah, lots think you’re the fool…the cross posting piece of crap…a liar…and a loser.
All I did was prove it
March 29th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Mistabrown Says:
April 29th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Hey OakGlenn!
lmao
Mention your name anytime of the day you pop up within 5 mins, some things never change eh lil feller.
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Still kind of funny that years later you still do this.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Seymour,
Its unfortunate that the Raiders would have to expend a 2nd round pick on 30 something QB…that’s the price to be paid when one fails to develop the youngsters..at some point you have to move on and move on for the better.
Unfortunate in this deep draft, but McNabb will make more of an impact on this team than the 1st round pick we eventually take. Thats how hungry this team is for a GOOD QB. Sure, we could throw Gradkowski out there, and he’ll run around with his scrappy self, but most of us know he ain’t taking us anywhere.
McNAbb will do more to develop Schilens, Murphy and (JLH/DHB/Miller) and Zach…which will pay dividends for the next decade.
I don’t see T.O coming here. No need really. Receiver is not the weakness here…provided Schilens and Murphy are on the field.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Bye wack job. Bye.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
You know, Oakglenn, some things never change, lol
· BabySlash Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:46 am
MR how do I know Oak trolls you? I saw him refer to one of his own posts yesterday using your name as he forgot to change his indentity back from MR.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
RaiderLen Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
If Al signs McNabb, It…imo will not be with the intention of having him around for 1 season.
McNabb is 33yrs old. Al is 80. He probably thinks McNabb has at least 5 years left on the tires.
If Al trades for McNabb, it’s for the next few years.
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AFter failing with Beurlein,Marinovich, Billy Jo Hobert, Tui, Walter and now Russell…the vet move is the only right move to make.
Its the only time we’ve seen any success, or sniffed success….Plunkett, (Schroeder 1 year), Hostetler, Gannon…and now hopefully McNabb.
We gotta get the train back on the tracks in a bad way.
I’d even say draft OT in the 1st round and put him at RT…and hope and pray the defense doesn’t give up too many points with its p$@@#poor run defense
March 29th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
If McNabb is not coming to Oakland, then the 1st pick has to be DT. BEcause we know the offense ain’t putting up points with “JaDavis and the Gym Rats”
March 29th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
SnB, what is unfortunate is the Raiders cannot seem to develop their top talent. Now, having a constant change in coaches, systems and schemes cannot be good.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
bye pumpkin…Hey..I’ll post some more “funnies” here…just so this thread can be a smorgasbord of Oakglen’s Follies..ok?
March 29th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
RaiderLen Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
If Al signs McNabb, It…imo will not be with the intention of having him around for 1 season.
McNabb is 33yrs old. Al is 80. He probably thinks McNabb has at least 5 years left on the tires.
If Al trades for McNabb, it’s for the next few years.
^^^^^^^^
I would say 4 years at least…..
March 29th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
If Al makes the move for McNabb, I’m sure in Al’s mind it is to ride him into the sunset. Donovan and Al both would be lucky to be around for another 6 years.
Each are clearly on the downstage of their career, so they would be a fitting marriage. Both brilliant and frustrating at times, Davis and McNabb might just work. Pay McNabb and I’m sure he will be happy.
I used to be againt giving up too much for him, but a 2nd and a 7th is worth it now, IMO.
With a lockout pending in 2011 just say fck it all Al, all in.
Hope for the flush on the river.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
AFter failing with Beurlein,Marinovich, Billy Jo Hobert, Tui, Walter and now Russell…the vet move is the only right move to make.
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You’re completely right. The only success the Raiders EVER seem to have is getting a vet Q.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
Bruce Gradkowski…….best backup in the league!!!
March 29th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Would the Raiders move to a West Coast offense for McNabb, or drop him into Al Davis’s antiquated scheme?
March 29th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
SnB,
McNabb has never shown to develop any receivers. They had a string of busted WR’s until they ran into DeSean. I think DeSean would have done well even in Oakland too. That boy has produced at every level.
If we get McNabb without out an extension than I am all for it. If he does well, then we can franchise him next year. Other than that we shouldnt have him. He has only played all 16 games 5x in 11 years. In the last 6 years, he has played 16 games only 1 season. We know any QB in our line will get the hits. He aint going to finish the season. Either way, the gym rat Grad is going to play this year.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Would the Raiders move to a West Coast offense for McNabb, or drop him into Al Davis’s antiquated scheme?
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Look at the Eagles personnel. Andy Reid runs the exact same offensive scheme as the Raiders.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
Look at the Eagles personnel. Andy Reid runs the exact same offensive scheme as the Raiders.
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Not true. The Eagles run a West Coast scheme.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
And they run a 4/3 with man and corner support on Defense. They just do it better than we do. Much better.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
Question is what scheme does our OCO Jackson want to run??????
March 29th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
Look at the Eagles personnel. Andy Reid runs the exact same offensive scheme as the Raiders.
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Not true. The Eagles run a West Coast scheme.
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No they don’t. They are both west coast guys with Mohringweg and Reid, they come from that, but they are down the field guys. Look at any tape of any game in the last five years.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
SnB, DKnight, Vegas, Seymour…
I’m down with McNabb for as long as we can keep Him upright and productive.
He is…by far better than any QB on this roster.
Trade for Him, Protect Him… and win.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Thec07 Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
Question is what scheme does our OCO Jackson want to run?????
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I am sure they are going to run what Davis and Cable tell him to run. Flacco has a big arm, so look for the big run, deep passing offense they ran in Baltimore.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Thec07 Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
Question is what scheme does our OCO Jackson want to run??????
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Answer…One with McNabb at the controls.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Philly runs a dink & dunk passing game with almost no running .
March 29th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
McNabb certainly isn’t as mobile as Bruce and a fit Jamarcus might even be shiftier. Our O-line issues would be magnified a little more with Donovan in that sense.
But a command of the offense, and an ability to hit the open man quickly, should offset the mobility factor.
Certainly if the trade happens, the Vegas book odds for Raiders wins this year will go up.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Philly runs a dink & dunk passing game with almost no running .
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Only because they had trouble running without Westbrook.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
Seymour, Philly blitzes more than we do. Seymour, it’s not just us in here saying that the Raiders are archaic on defense. Players around the league say it, too. It’s not some thing made up by the Davis haters. It’s common knowledge in NFL circles. The Raiders use man way too much.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
Some of those bombs Deshean caught wern’t dinks.
McNabb can air it out.
A healthy dose of Bush with a mix of Mcfadden should help.
Provided the O line is at least average.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Richochet, for someone who’s as homophobic as you, you sure do call other men “pumpkin” and “sweetie” a lot.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Nnamdi talks about a lack of diversity on D.
Nothing new.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Add Nnamdi to the list of players who think we use man too much, Seymour. Are you going to argue with Nnamdi flipin’ Asomugha?
March 29th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Philly runs a dink & dunk passing game with almost no running .
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They might have done that 15 years ago, but they don’t run that anymore and haven’t for years. You think they drafted Maclin and Desean do run 5 yard patterns? Think again. McNabb was heaving the rock down the yard to those guys.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Donovan is best when he is throwing the ball down the field.
Reid runs a ton of screens, which McNabb does well. The short stuff is when McNabb is sometimes inaccurate though, but he has plenty of arm and drops some dimes down the field.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
This bores me. Chio.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
Anyone have a gut feeling regarding when this trade will happen…If it happens?
My guess…within the week.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Add Nnamdi to the list of players who think we use man too much, Seymour. Are you going to argue with Nnamdi flipin’ Asomugha?
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There is no doubt that I think we should be changing things up a bit. I have never said we shouldn’t. You should have a base defense we can execute well that’s our man D. One thing we don’t ever execute well is playing zone pass defense. In fact we are horrible at it.
March 29th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
# vegas raider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Donovan is best when he is throwing the ball down the field.
Reid runs a ton of screens, which McNabb does well. The short stuff is when McNabb is sometimes inaccurate though, but he has plenty of arm and drops some dimes down the field.
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That is exactly right, and they drafted the wide outs to run down the field.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Ok so lets say we get Mcnabb, this one move will not make this team a playoff contender….We need oline help no matter who is under center…
Dan Lefevour can be had in the 4th rd. Get oline help 2 of the first 3 picks…
March 29th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Until we fix our Oline, we aint scoring.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
In spite of the obvious lack of tough up the middle D,
I’ve been after Olinemen in the draft for the last 2 years.
I’d have picked Mack last year, and supplemented from there.
This year for me is no different. If Suh were available at 8 i’d have to take Him.
Because he won’t…take an O Lineman.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Wow
Please tell me the Raiders are not this stupid! McNabb is not that good a QB and he is getting worse by the day. His career passer ratings are inflated because of Westbrook and he is definetly declining. I think Gradkowski is almost as good at this point. Unbelievable that they would even consider someone like Aso in a trade.
However, I said the same thing about Russell and look where we are… I guess this is why we have not won 6 games in a season since the 2002 season. I would rather take my chances with the three we have than to lose a quality player for a WASHED UP QB! We will have McWashup and Jubustus: Great! Not.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
1960…
McNabb has played 1 full season in the last 6 years. How many games do you think he’ll last for us next year if he comes here. My take is around 8 games.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Len, I agree if suh, okung or mccoy are avail at 8, which i do beleve one of them will be you cannot pass on them…Suh is the S#!t per seymour, who is one if not the only stand up guy on this team…
March 29th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Wind,
The recent speculation has nothing to do with Nnamdi being traded.
It is speculated it would be the raiders #2 pick in this years draft.
I’d make that deal.
McNabb…imo is far better then any QB on the current roster.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Aig & KoolKell,
The HOPE….and I understand how delicate that word is the last 20 years…is that Hue Jackson cleans up any of the ridiculousness in Davis’ scheme. Hopefully, Hue didn’t take the job without some level of understanding that he be able to call the offense.
Plus, the Raider offense is still basically an offshoot of Lane Kiffin’s original offense, which is West Coast. Hopefully Jackson gets rid of the baffoonery that was Tom Cable’s playcalling.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
with our oline i give him 4 games…
March 29th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
# aig Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
SnB,
McNabb has never shown to develop any receivers. They had a string of busted WR’s until they ran into DeSean. I think DeSean would have done well even in Oakland too. That boy has produced at every level.
If we get McNabb without out an extension than I am all for it. If he does well, then we can franchise him next year. Other than that we shouldnt have him. He has only played all 16 games 5x in 11 years. In the last 6 years, he has played 16 games only 1 season. We know any QB in our line will get the hits. He aint going to finish the season. Either way, the gym rat Grad is going to play this year.
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2005- sports hernia he had surgery repaired with some mesh problem fixed no problem…
2006- torn acl he had surgery patellar tendon graft taken to repair ligament problem fixed no problem.
since 2007 mcnabb has started 44 out of 48 games the guys a warrior you obviously dont know what the hell your talking about… the most recent stats shows mcnabb had a NICE 2009 3500YARDS 22TDS ONLY 10 PICKS…MCNABB WOULD GIVE US OUR BEST CHANCE TO WIN RIGHT NOW!!!
March 29th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
No way i do this deal. We can get some long term quality with that pick, all for what 1 year? franchise tag gets him 20 per. So now you have 2 gazillionaire qbs….wtf is that?
March 29th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
There is nothing to substantiate the rumor that the Raiders are even interested in McNabb at this point. There is just as much evidence that says Jim Plunkett is coming out of retirement to QB this team next year as there is that McNabb will come here. Adam Schefter is chicken little and will say anything to keep his name on a byline. I don’t believe any of this trade crap nor do I believe any of the Russell weight rumors. He is gonna suck as much at 245 as he does at 271. Believe that.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
30 Year Raider,
Thanks for the dope on McNabb from 2007 to present.
Am Ireading this correct. Missed 4 games since 2007?
March 29th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
compare phillys oline to the raiders…wtf is that?
March 29th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
vegas raider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
Bruce Gradkowski…….best backup in the league!!!
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Well, that’s progress. You don’t have Grads going to the HOF anymore. Now when are you going to figure out that JR isn’t going anywhere?
March 29th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
FURTHERMORE if mcnabb comes in we SHOULD NOT DRAFT AN OT IN RD 1… NEED TO GO AFTER SOME VETS FOR THE OLINE… SOME PROVEN GUYS UP FRONT.. I WOULD EXPECT US TO SIGN A BOBBIE WILLIAMS FROM CINN TO PLAY OG, A KEVIN MAWAE TO PLAY CENTER OR EVEN GO AFTER A MARCUS MCNEILL AT OT… THE DEFENSE WITH THAT #1 WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED EITHER A DT OR MCCLAIN AT MLB…NEEDING TO STOP THE RUN SHOULD OUR FOCUS..
March 29th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
There is an awfull lot of smoke around the McNabb fire.
It’s not all generated by Schefter.
David White was quated as saying the Rumor had more legs than a centipeed.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
# RaiderLen Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
30 Year Raider,
Thanks for the dope on McNabb from 2007 to present.
Am Ireading this correct. Missed 4 games since 2007?
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YES SIR
March 29th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
1960Autumnwind,
How do you figure McNabb is washed up? He just finished throwing for 3000+ yards, 22 TDS, only 10 INTs and a playoff birth. The year before was 3900 yds, 23 TDs 11 INTs and a trip to the NFC Championship game He’s been consistently good.
He’s 33 years old. Manning is 34 and Brady is 32….Kurt Warner and Brett Favre were making it happen at 40.
You say that Westbrook was the reason for all his success…Westbrook was never the leading receiver in PHilly…are you saying having a strong running game is actually a negative? Confusing logic.
McNabb has made it work with receivers named Pinkston, THrash, Lewis, Brown and Curtis…and a rookie receiver in Jackson and this year with Maclin…
I think a QB that doesn’t need a crutch of great receivers and still perform is exactly what we need with the woefully pathetic DHB!
And stop with the Gradkowski rhetoric. He starts and the team has already given up.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Mcnabb for our second rd pick allday man
March 29th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
Vegas
Pine Street April 9, East Bay Sick. Should I put you on the guestlist? Time for a flashback and a stripper pole.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
# Thec07 Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
compare phillys oline to the raiders…wtf is that?
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This is a good point. Reid built his team well. From the trenches out.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Franchise tag on Mcnabb will cost you 20 million…
March 29th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
30 Yr…
Obviously you have your sunglasses on.
He played 16 games once in the last 6 years. Do my stats lie? 2008 was the only time he played all 16 games and yet his team went 3-4-1 without Westbrook touching the ball 20x. What does that tell you? He doesnt carry his team!!!!
You’re already admitted that he couldnt finish 05 and 06. Then you tried to BS your way by saying he played 44/48 games. Let’s see here, 2007 14 games, 2008 16 games, 2009 14 games. yes, it’s true he has one full season in the past 6 years. 5 full season in 11 years. The stats are pretty consistent no? How many games will he play behind our line?
March 29th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
let jr develop under mcnabb and see what happens
March 29th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
Raider Len
I know he is better than anyone on our roster but that is not saying much! He is also declining and everytime I watch him he seems inconsistent. He had a terrible game against the Raiders last year for instance. He gets a lot of stats from people breaking tackles and getting YAC. I know he can throw some incredible passes now and then but Westbrook is a QB ratings best friend. If we could get him for next to nothing then great but an early second round pic is primo! You get first round value for a 2nd round price. I have heard it is what teams like NE covet. They would rather have an early 2nd rounder than a very high first rounder.To give up an all pro cornerback for him would be sucidal.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
Gee whiz…Gradkowski, a career 53% passer, 3x cut by some awful teams….and he’s the solution over a QB like McNabb?
Do you guys want to win? Or has Raider Nation morphed into a “Chicago Cubseque” enjoyment of losing
March 29th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
I still don’t buy it. I guess I don’t wast time worrying about speculation. If it happens, then I will react. If anything I would say it’s a smokescreen to motivate the SLUG.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
How are we going to keep our QB upright?
The answer to the raiders qb woes is either T Smith, would cost you a 5th rounder, or Dan Lefevour, 3rd, or 4th rounder. This kid will be good in the NFL….
March 29th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
# pridenpoise831 Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Mcnabb for our second rd pick allday man
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ALL F.U.K.N DAY LONG!!!!!!!!!!! WITH SOME OLINE HELP THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER AND ADDRESSING THE DEF WITH EITHER A ROLANDO MCCLAIN OR A DAN WILLIAMS/ BRIAN PRICE I WILL GUARENTEE 10 WINS!!!!!!!!!!!
March 29th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
mcnabbs nice man mcnabb to schillens TOUCHDOWN RAAAIDERS!!!!! that has a nice ring to it stop hatin
March 29th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
How many games did Gradkowski finish in a season?….How about last season?
How many Pro-Bowls? 3,000 yard passing efforts, playoff appearances?
“Grads” can be the backup. Actually would feel ok with that.
Starter? You can’t be serious
March 29th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
Post #682
What SnB said.
On the money.
Let’s…if posible get someone in here that knows how to WIN.
Ya think the guys might pay attention in the Huddle?
The entire unit will find another level…within themselves.
Imagine the collateralgood that will come of it.
a defense that plays a bit more inspired because they KNOW their QB is a proven winner.
It all exponenciates.(SP)
March 29th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
They move McNabb around on rollouts, moving pockets, etc, to make plays.
They don’t run a 7 step straight drop all day long.
To say that Philly runs the same offense as Oakland, is just plain wrong.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
right on 30 yr Raider thats what time it is
March 29th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
You say that Westbrook was the reason for all his success…Westbrook was never the leading receiver in PHilly…are you saying having a strong running game is actually a negative? Confusing logic.
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Actually there were years when Westbrook caught 90 balls. That is an awful lot of receptions, for anyone.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Your oline will give you a chance to win…
March 29th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
SNB
I did not discuss a running game. I have no idea what you are talking about. I am saying that Westbrook would take essentially handoffs (short swing and screen passes) and turn them into 20 yard gains. Regarding your comment about trash recievers, McNabb also had TO for a year. He had Jackson as well. Westbrook for Philly was like Garner for us except much much better.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
Thec07 Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
How are we going to keep our QB upright?
The answer to the raiders qb woes is either T Smith, would cost you a 5th rounder, or Dan Lefevour, 3rd, or 4th rounder. This kid will be good in the NFL….
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The QB gets rid of the ball on time….make a free agent or draft pick…
Bringing in a QB who’s trait is running around playing street ball is not the answer if you have any interest in winning.
And as far as the money….there is sooooooo much obesity on this team…literally and figuratively…that cap won’t be an issue.
We pay JaDavis for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! NOTHING! NOT A DAMN THING!
We pay DHB for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! OOOPS…9 catches…LOL…maybe McNabb can revive this busts career like he made a career of guys named Todd Pinkson and Reggie Brown
McNabb is a top 10 QB at worst! The RAider QB situation has been SO ABYSMAL that you guys see “Grads” throw the ball in the 4th QTR against the Steelers and your sold….Good Lawd!
March 29th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
# aig Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
30 Yr…
Obviously you have your sunglasses on.
He played 16 games once in the last 6 years. Do my stats lie? 2008 was the only time he played all 16 games and yet his team went 3-4-1 without Westbrook touching the ball 20x. What does that tell you? He doesnt carry his team!!!!
You’re already admitted that he couldnt finish 05 and 06. Then you tried to BS your way by saying he played 44/48 games. Let’s see here, 2007 14 games, 2008 16 games, 2009 14 games. yes, it’s true he has one full season in the past 6 years. 5 full season in 11 years. The stats are pretty consistent no? How many games will he play behind our line?
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TRUST ME BRO WE WILL ADDRESS THE LINE IF WE GET MCNABB… IT WILL NOT BE WITH SOME UNPROVEN ROOKS UP FRONT EITHER..THAT WOULD BE SUICIDAL…
March 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
A proven winner is all Mcmabb is
March 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Let McNabb find McFadden 90 times in pass patterns.
That works for Me.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
listen in two moves were a playoff team 1st move 8th pick cj spiller 2nd move sign terrell owens he comes in shows our young receivng core moves on and off the field ,thats it back to the playoffs.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
No way i do this deal. We can get some long term quality with that pick, all for what 1 year? franchise tag gets him 20 per. So now you have 2 gazillionaire qbs….wtf is that?
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If this is a one year deal, I don’t do it.
If it is going to cost 20 million a year to keep him here, I don’t do it.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
They move McNabb around on rollouts, moving pockets, etc, to make plays.
They don’t run a 7 step straight drop all day long.
To say that Philly runs the same offense as Oakland, is just plain wrong.
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Jerry MacDonald I think wrote an article or maybe Andy Reid said that we run a very similar offense to theirs. Look it up.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
TRUST ME BRO WE WILL ADDRESS THE LINE IF WE GET MCNABB… IT WILL NOT BE WITH SOME UNPROVEN ROOKS UP FRONT EITHER..THAT WOULD BE SUICIDAL…
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Disagree, look atall the first rd linmen picked in recent years by teams others than the raiders. Most guys come out “pro ready”…
March 29th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
What if Raiders get McNabb for the 2nd round pick and then trade #8 pick for later 1st round plus more picks later in the draft?
Would love to see this happen.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
pridenpoise831 Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Mcnabb for our second rd pick allday man
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Make it a 1st. That way Davis will save money (give it to McNabb), heartache and pain from drafting another bust that takes 4 years to get to average
March 29th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
post682, I agree with you,if it happens,Yes! Remember when Gannon came in,washed up,never done anything loser,that didnt turn out so bad! DM can bring a veteran to the table,still hungry for the Ring, and not OLD! As my cousin Gilbert would say,RAIDERS!!!! PS, Can throw a sweet screen pass and move a bit if need be
March 29th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
SnB,
Are we 1 QB away from making the playoffs? Are we 1 QB away from turning this franchise around? I personally do not think so. We have holes in both of our Lines. Until we build our Lines McNabb aint going to take us any where. Even if he comes, Grad is going to play regardless. We dont have a line to protect him and he has consistently shown he cannot finish a season even on a good team.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
RaiderLen Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Let McNabb find McFadden 90 times in pass patterns.
That works for Me.
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LOL…as if throwing to the running back for positive yards is a bad thing!
March 29th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
Some of you guys still think it is 2006 and we are running the Tom Walsh B&B offense. No one thinks our offense is antiquated at this time. It is just poorly executed. If you look at some of the QB play late in the season, the Q’s certainly are not trusting of the Oline play.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
# pridenpoise831 Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
mcnabbs nice man mcnabb to schillens TOUCHDOWN RAAAIDERS!!!!! that has a nice ring to it stop hatin
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I SAID THAT LAST WEEK TOO!!! I CAN HEAR PAPAS VOICE NOW ” MCNABB LOOKING, LOOKING GETS OUT OF THE POCKET MOVES TO HIS RIGHT FINDS MURPHY IN THE CORNER OF THE ENDZONE TOUCH DOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN RAIDUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DAMN THAT SOUND GOOD!!!!!!!!!!
March 29th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
RaiderLen Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Let McNabb find McFadden 90 times in pass patterns.
That works for Me.
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Hey at times McFumblor looked real good. Til he coughs it up.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Raider Len
Mcfadden is not Westbrook! Our line is not as sophisitcated as Phillys in running these plays. It is a team game and they have great coaching and DM was surrounded by great players. I am so sick of hearing the crap about he had bad WRs when he had Westbrook, TO for a year and Jackson recently. If we trade quality for DM I am calling right here: 5 wins max and DM will be on his back by game 8. Here’s a question if DM is so great then why are they dangling him?? So they can trot out “corn on the cob.”??? Or let the dog fighter run the offence??? They probably think he is declining as well.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
30 year
I can hear this. McNabb scrables he’s hit ball loose Baily picks it up Touchdown Broncos. McNabb has ball security issues… Look it up.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
last year robert gallery was hurt only played six games thats the heart off your line ,you shuffle players around to fill that hole he leaves ,players playing out of position,they look bad .gallery will be back and healthy our line will be fine.lets get some play makers!
March 29th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
MY EX GIRLFRIEND , WHOM I WAS STALKIN SUM MONTHS BACK. IS CALLIN ME NOW DUDES
. BUT IT MAY BE CUS HER GUYFRIEND IS IN JAIL 
. MY LIFE SUCKS …
March 29th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
aig Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
SnB,
Are we 1 QB away from making the playoffs? Are we 1 QB away from turning this franchise around? I personally do not think so. We have holes in both of our Lines. Until we build our Lines McNabb aint going to take us any where. Even if he comes, Grad is going to play regardless. We dont have a line to protect him and he has consistently shown he cannot finish a season even on a good team.
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Who knows? Probably not 1 QB away because the run defense is AWFUL!!!!!!!!!!!
But the offense will score points if Hue Jackson can call a game based on the strength and weaknesses of the team. WHy? We would have a QB that can make all the throws and has elite QB talent and smarts.
I’ll take my chances with that then watching Gradkowski or Frye play street ball out there…or worse, JaDavis chucking up ints
March 29th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Can we all agree to the following?
A good RB makes the QB looks better. LT and Westbrook carried their teams in their prime.
A good QB makes his wide receivers better.
Brady made millions for Deion Branch. Peyton has made all of his receivers look good. Yet after 11 years, the only good receivers for McNabb are TO and DeSean. What does that tell you?
March 29th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
So if the Colts have a bad line…are you saying they would be better with Gradkowski than Manning?
If the line is bad…fix it…don’t compromise on who plays other positions….you can’t win with that logic
March 29th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
# 1960AutumnWind Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
30 year
I can hear this. McNabb scrables he’s hit ball loose Baily picks it up Touchdown Broncos. McNabb has ball security issues… Look it up.
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MAN WHAT PLANET ARE YOU GUYS ON????? AND ALL YALL NEED TO STOP SMOKIN THE DAMN CRACK PIPE!! DONOVAN MCNABB GIVES US THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN RIGHT NOW!!! IF YOU GUYS ARE REALLY RAIDER FANS YOU MUST BE SICK OF LOSING LIKE ME!!! I CANT TAKE THIS MUCH LONGER…THIS IS WHAT IT IS.. YOUR TALKING ABOUT A GUY THAT HAS TAKEN HIS TEAM TO 5 NFC TITLE GAMES AND ONE SUPER BOWL… I WAS WATCHING FILM ON HIM EARLIER… DAMN IF HE DOESNT THROW A PRETTY PASS TO HIS WR IN STRIDE… THats the key word here son IN STRIDE… I HAVENT SEEN THAT IN 7 YEARS!!
March 29th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
yeah . we got really good line guys./ gallery . henderson. uhhhh… anyway …
so maybe i should like have sex with my ex.. im talkin sweaty african ugle sex man.. bite her buttocks and errthang . all kinda crazy positions. just blow her mind ,, then dont answer her calls 4 three days…
March 29th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Seymour…McFumbler it is.
I however want to see a realtivlely healthy McFumbler catching and running the ball in space…were his best attributes are maximized.
After 16 games of this…I’ll revisit my outlook on Mc Fumbler.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
aig Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Can we all agree to the following?
A good RB makes the QB looks better. LT and Westbrook carried their teams in their prime.
A good QB makes his wide receivers better.
Brady made millions for Deion Branch. Peyton has made all of his receivers look good. Yet after 11 years, the only good receivers for McNabb are TO and DeSean. What does that tell you?
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That the Eagles recognized that those shoddy receivers were never worth millions and promptly dispatched them. Recognized it was the QB and not the receivers and paid the QB accordingly
Care to explain Desean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin’s ascension the past two years?
March 29th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Just reading some of the posts. It seems like Jerry is the only one who doesn’t want McNabb in a Raider uniform.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
on more than one occasion j.russell had a drive killed by getting the ball swatted out of his hands.when tikki barber came to the giants he was a fumbler,til tom coughlin came in and told hm how to carry the ball,he was coached up !
March 29th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
but im thinkin .. that i should just play it cool. u know be hard on her .. so she can know im not her chump and stuff. maybe ill take her to the zoo , yeah thats a nice get back in the groove kinda date.. then when we see the monkeys screwin i can say. hey baby, that use to be us …
March 29th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
McNabb is not the most accurate passer in the league. Consider that as well. I like him, I like his play, I would certainly bring him here, but Peyton Manning or Drew Brees he ain’t.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
Wind,
My best guess as to why Philly would be willing to part with McNabb.
Ton of money invested in Kolb.
McNabb due a ton of money this year.
Free agent the following year.
Conclusion…they think they hace their NEW guy and don’t want to pay the old guy…or loose Him for nothing.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
jerrymc is a fukkin raider hater!! of course he doesnt want mcnabb. he thinks its hilarious we are losin so much …
anyway back to important mantters … who saw that movie REPO MEN that was darn good man. jude law acted his arse off ,, and forest whittaker was cool
March 29th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
SnB,
I’ll give you this.
Hue Jackson over Cable is a huge upgrade on playcalling. I’ve been calling for Cable to give up play calling all last year.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
# fat kidd Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
on more than one occasion j.russell had a drive killed by getting the ball swatted out of his hands.when tikki barber came to the giants he was a fumbler,til tom coughlin came in and told hm how to carry the ball,he was coached up !
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I was just watching some tape of the Raiders late in the season and the offensive line play is AWFUL. Russell/Frye/Gradkowski did not have 2 seconds back there. The only positive was Grads could at least run around and try to make something happen.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
30 year
Writing in all caps won’t make us quit losing and aquiring an over hyped worn out QB won’t either. If it were me I would try to build the lines and re-establish the running game and have an open competition for QB.
The situation with McNabb is nothing like with Gannon. Gannon was a journeyman QB more like Frye when he came here not a former pro bowl QB like McNabb. BTW Kerry Collins took a different team to the Superbowl – how did that work out for us.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
mcnabb is a puss.. and an uncle tom . and hes black. and hes dumb . i mean . who in here didnt know the overtime rule? and we dont get paid to play football!!
March 29th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Fellas,if DM is signed ,what does that mean for JRuss? Can the Raiders pay them both BANK,or maybe JRuss rips up his contract for a new one? Lots of questions, this story just wont die! just hope for the best, Raiders!!!!!!
March 29th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
why not just draft a smart young guy. .. a smart white quarterback . like the tony pike guy. his arm is surely strong enuff. if we cant get the only possible franchise qb in this draft . ( jimmy clausen ) then just get a decent white boy that can read a playbook and a defense. thats all u nee 2 win in the NFL
March 29th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
week 6 raiders 13 eagles 9 winning qb j.russell losing qb d.mcnabb
March 29th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
# fat kidd Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
on more than one occasion j.russell had a drive killed by getting the ball swatted out of his hands.when tikki barber came to the giants he was a fumbler,til tom coughlin came in and told hm how to carry the ball,he was coached up !
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I was just watching some tape of the Raiders late in the season and the offensive line play is AWFUL. Russell/Frye/Gradkowski did not have 2 seconds back there. The only positive was Grads could at least run around and try to make something happen.
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Did the blockers miss their blocks? Or did an extra rusher get to the QB?
Getting beat man on man means they need an upgrade on the line. Not calling out the correct assignments, or reacting to a blitz quickly enough means the problem is with the QB.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
1960AutumnWind,
So you are saying that Gannon as a journeyman, or journeyman QBs are better options than Pro Bowl QBs still in their element? We got lucky with Gannon. And Gannon had some 12 years in the league when he brought his journeyman self to Oakland…”Grads and the other Gym-Rat Frye” and the bust JaDavis have only been in the league a few years…..
What does Collins and McNabb have in common besides taking a team to a Super Bowl. ARe you really saying Collins and McNabb are the same QB? McNabb has played for 1 team….as a starter the whole time…Collins? bounced around the league…all over the league….
March 29th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
so anyway .. my ex girlfriend ended tonights call sayin she loved me. i was in stunned silence.. i think she s a sneaky conniving woman ,, but she has great hair and magnificently crafted buttocks
March 29th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
And if you guys are saying we need someone to run around because the line is bad…well then that suggests we get Michael Vick? I hope no one is proposing that? Although, I would take Vick over “JaDavis or Grads” any day.
Suggests that JaDavis deserves another chance because the line was so bad!?!
The line wasn’t the reason the team lost last year….p$@@##poor QB play and HORRIBLE playcalling lost the season
March 29th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
SnB,
Do you think both DeSean and Macklin are studs that would do well any where? DeSean has proven he can play in HS, College and the pro.
So my point is TO, DeSean and Macklin would look good any where they go.
However, a good QB like Brady, Peyton, Brees, Favre, and Rivers all the sudden make no name WR’s into studs. Deion Branch got paid because of Brady. Look at Rice in Minn, he is now a stud because Favre showed up. McNabb has never been known and showed that he made his receivers better.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
hendu Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Fellas,if DM is signed ,what does that mean for JRuss? Can the Raiders pay them both BANK,or maybe JRuss rips up his contract for a new one? Lots of questions, this story just wont die! just hope for the best, Raiders!!!!!!
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It means the Raiders put the bust on the road and cut him immediately
March 29th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Raider Len
If they *really* wanted McNabb they could restructure. Kolb is not that expensive at this point… Please study this out and quit trying to dream like we are stealing some bargin. This is not Farve at GB for crying out loud. I feel like I am talking to teenagers wanting to buy the crappy car with the nice paint job. I did not see NE dump Brady for Castle even though he showed much more promise than Kolb. I think they know he is declining and can’t run the offense they way they want him to so they are trying to get some value for him from a stupidly run team like the modern day Raiders.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Kerry Collins was a streaky QB. He would light it up for two or three games, then suk for two.
He was hot for three playoff games,then went in the tank for the superbowl. That’s the kind of QB he has always been. That’s why he will never win a superbowl. He is too inconsistant.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
post729,NorthernD,I think thats because he wants the niners to sign him, go figure
March 29th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
when russell takes a five step drop feels the pressure instead of standing there step up in the pocket and the ball wont be swatted out of your hand,or roll out he should be coached up on this,thats what practice is for!
March 29th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
SnB,
I’d take Vick or Troy Smith over McNabb right now. Troy Smith is at least familiar with Hue’s offense and we wouldnt leverage our future on him either. I’m all for getting QB’s that is mobile and still young. You know the Raiders will overpay to get McNabb.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
northernd.. dont 4get black.. hes black too
March 29th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
aig Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
SnB,
Do you think both DeSean and Macklin are studs that would do well any where? DeSean has proven he can play in HS, College and the pro.
So my point is TO, DeSean and Macklin would look good any where they go.
However, a good QB like Brady, Peyton, Brees, Favre, and Rivers all the sudden make no name WR’s into studs. Deion Branch got paid because of Brady. Look at Rice in Minn, he is now a stud because Favre showed up. McNabb has never been known and showed that he made his receivers better.
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The philly offence is designed to get everyone involved in the passing. They usually end up with 8 guys getting catches per game. They spread the ball around.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
SnB
Totally agree with you on QB play especially when JR was in. I have never seen anything like what he did missing swing passes by 5 yards and staring down WRs. It was some of the worst QB play I have ever seen! However I would rather aquire a QB without a big price tag and ego like DM. I would rather take my chances with Frye or Grad and not loose a quality draft pic that we need for lineman or linebackers or loose our best players.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Will McNabb Make the Raiders better?
Ask any of the Raider coaches.
What would their answer be?
Ask them…on any given Sunday…choose your QB.
McNabb, Jamarcus, Grads, Frye.
Whom would they choose?
This is a no brainer.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
# 1960AutumnWind Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Here’s a question if DM is so great then why are they dangling him?? So they can trot out “corn on the cob.”??? Or let the dog fighter run the offence??? They probably think he is declining as well.
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I can tell you why they are trading him. Jeff Lurie the owner of the Eagles said early last year, “We are the gold standard of the league.” Now, he may be exaggerating a bit, but hey, they won the conference title and at least 11 games in 3 of the last five years and they have been very good before that. What they do is very quietly get rid of excellent players near the end of their careers and get draft picks instead. They got rid of Brian Dawkins, traded Lito Sheppard, stocked up on draft picks and get young and fast on the fly and they don’t wait too long like SD did with Ladanian or the Whiners did with Montana. They are now doing exactly that with McNabb. He still has a lot of value, but is getting on in age, and was benched last year for being a knucklehead. NOW, is the perfect time to dish him, especially if they can get some high picks in a deep draft. + they have Kolb and Vick in the wings. Extremely smart move on their parts.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
but real talk, u guys sayin all this negative stuff bout mcnabb. if he was goin to the broncos. youd all be like ” oh no! the donks are gttin a proven pro bowl vet. mcnabb got like 4 good years left ” u guys even hate the raiders …
March 29th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Losing a 2nd round pick for McNabb is a bad thing?
Al drafted a fifth round talent last year. A 2nd round pick is the hands of Al Davis is only worth a fourth or fifth round pick anyway.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Aig,
I think when there are so few QBs that actually produce, to get to the point where we say that generally average receivers or a running back is making the QB is disecting things way too much and probably can’t be proven.
Players play…and winners produce. I think the Duante Culpepper to Randy Moss jump ball would be a warning sign…I don’t see McNabb throwing a bunch of jump balls…
I think you just don’t like the idea of McNabb. Which is fine…I just don’t like hearing people take away from obvious production.
If we like Gradkowski and his 2 gm stint, 3x cut, 53% career passer over a 6x Pro Bowler, 5x NFC Championship, 2×1 TD ratio then just say it.
I don’t agree….I just think Al DAvis is INEPT when it comes to developing a QB and I thik Grads is a mirage…2 games is flash..JaDavis gave us 2 games at the end of 2008….I want to see, for once, a real bonnafide QB back there…not a gym-rat hanger on who’s won the heart of Tom frekkn Cable…or a bust 1st rounder who couldn’t stay in shape…a real QB that throws more good passes then bad and leads his team and puts up PROFESSIONAL STATISTICS.
I don’t see the Gym-Rats or JaDavis being able to do that…nor do I see Troy Smith as a VIABLE alternative.
McNabb is a low risk acquisition. 2nd round pick? Who cares, Davis reaches high and low and they don’t produce….1 year contract…okay, if it doesn’t work we stay 5-11 and give the job to Grads next year.
But if it works out….it could be a repeat of Gannon, Plunkett and others…..because McNabb is capbable
March 29th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
# SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
so anyway .. my ex girlfriend ended tonights call sayin she loved me. i was in stunned silence.. i think she s a sneaky conniving woman ,, but she has great hair and magnificently crafted buttocks
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I think you need to ram it home, homie.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Wind,
I’m no kid.
If you don’t like McNabb…fine.
I do.
End of story.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Satan,
Our sorry a$$ D beat McNabb last year so no he doesnt put the fear of God into me. He coudlnt make adjustments against us last year. He forgot that it was 4th down against us last year. So if he goes to the Donkeys, I’m all for it.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
AIG
I like your Troy Smith idea. He is undervalued because he is short just like Brees was. I bet we could get him a lot cheaper than DM.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
And if you guys are saying we need someone to run around because the line is bad…well then that suggests we get Michael Vick? I hope no one is proposing that? Although, I would take Vick over “JaDavis or Grads” any day.
Suggests that JaDavis deserves another chance because the line was so bad!?!
The line wasn’t the reason the team lost last year….p$@@##poor QB play and HORRIBLE playcalling lost the season
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POOR QB PLAY AND PLAY CALLING WAS PROBABLY 80% for our lack of success last season…the line can only do so much with a dumb dumb back there…
March 29th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
sad really. all u poor bums have become so insouciant with the organization that if we brought in peyton manning youd all be like.. ” well indiana must know sumtin bout his arm bein done ” or youd say ” well with or line peyton manning wont play any better than jruss “
March 29th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
now ive heard it all. u would take troy smith over mcnabb, oh my goodness. this grads or anybody but russell and now mcnabb sh!t has got to stop. mcnabb is a TALENTED qb and not some system cat like grads. dm has arm strength to get the ball in places alot of guys cant. if it wasnt for the west coast offense grads wouldnt have a place in the league. hell if russell would get his sh!t straight he would be lucky to be mentioned. i cant believe so many want to keep losin with these mediocre guys around here.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Aig,
I think when there are so few QBs that actually produce, to get to the point where we say that generally average receivers or a running back is making the QB is disecting things way too much and probably can’t be proven.
Players play…and winners produce. I think the Duante Culpepper to Randy Moss jump ball would be a warning sign…I don’t see McNabb throwing a bunch of jump balls…
I think you just don’t like the idea of McNabb. Which is fine…I just don’t like hearing people take away from obvious production.
If we like Gradkowski and his 2 gm stint, 3x cut, 53% career passer over a 6x Pro Bowler, 5x NFC Championship, 2×1 TD ratio then just say it.
I don’t agree….I just think Al DAvis is INEPT when it comes to developing a QB and I thik Grads is a mirage…2 games is flash..JaDavis gave us 2 games at the end of 2008….I want to see, for once, a real bonnafide QB back there…not a gym-rat hanger on who’s won the heart of Tom frekkn Cable…or a bust 1st rounder who couldn’t stay in shape…a real QB that throws more good passes then bad and leads his team and puts up PROFESSIONAL STATISTICS.
I don’t see the Gym-Rats or JaDavis being able to do that…nor do I see Troy Smith as a VIABLE alternative.
McNabb is a low risk acquisition. 2nd round pick? Who cares, Davis reaches high and low and they don’t produce….1 year contract…okay, if it doesn’t work we stay 5-11 and give the job to Grads next year.
But if it works out….it could be a repeat of Gannon, Plunkett and others…..because McNabb is capbable
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YOU HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD HERE BROTHA!!!
March 29th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
1960AutumnWind,
All good QBs have a little swagger and ego.
Look at JaDavis…nothing…no passion…nothing…just shrugs his shoulders and goes to the sidelines.
A little ego is a good thing. Gannon used to yell at Gruden…we need some ego at the position along with talent.
Gradkowski will give the fire and ego…he just doesn’t have the talent
March 29th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
u right seymour bush. ima do that . gonna get sum that good macys cologne, put on my gucci shoes. my tiger woods polo shirt . ( got the light brown one with him swingin a club ). buy sum patron and sum lemonade. cus beyatches like that
. then give her sum that billy bob thornton sex.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
HEY GONE WITH THE WIND…
I WOULD BE WILLING TO BET YOU NEVER EVEN PUT ON A FOOTBALL HELMET AND PADS… CAUSE IF YOU DID YOU WOULDNT BE SAYING THE THINGS YOU DO…ITS JUST PLAIN STUPIDTY
March 29th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Donavan McNabb is a smart, savvy, strong armed veteran Q with a lot of big game experience . I certainly don’t have a problem with him here. The question is do you give up a 2nd rounder and some late picks?
March 29th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Donavan McNabb is a smart, savvy, strong armed veteran Q with a lot of big game experience . I certainly don’t have a problem with him here. The question is do you give up a 2nd rounder and some late picks?
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ALL DAY LONG SB— ALL DAY LONG!!!!!!!!!!
March 29th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Snb,
I just dont think it is going to be a simple 2nd round for McNabb. It is going to be more than that.
See you guys think McNabb is in the same situation as plunkett or Gannon and it just aint so. McNabb is coming in as a star and will demand to be treated like one. If you dont think so, then see how he has been acting up there when they benched him. PFT pointed out that for benching McNabb the Ealges had to pay him an extra $5 mil in redoing his contract in 2008. That was their way of cowing to his pouts. Plunkett and Gannon were coming here to prove that they belong in the league.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Donavan McNabb is a smart, savvy, strong armed veteran Q with a lot of big game experience . I certainly don’t have a problem with him here. The question is do you give up a 2nd rounder and some late picks?
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YES! Only because I’m attracted to bright shinny objects.
It has nothing to do with productivity over 12 years in the NFL.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
And Cleveland beat Pittsburgh and Ben Rothlisberger. is Rothlisberger garbage now….legal issues aside.
The Raiders actually got creative for that PHilly game. Defying over 40 years of film…Marshall decided to blitz and blitz often….Eagles didn’t prepare for that…they were waiting for Al Davis’ 4 man rush, no blitz D to re-emerge.
Also, Andy Reid inexplicably stopped running the ball when WEstbrook was averaging 7 or 8 yards per carry or something.
Regardless, losing to a bad team in one game does not make for a bad QB…
March 29th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
SnB…The Raider D needs to sneak up on more Teams.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
u right seymour bush. ima do that . gonna get sum that good macys cologne, put on my gucci shoes. my tiger woods polo shirt . ( got the light brown one with him swingin a club ). buy sum patron and sum lemonade. cus beyatches like that . then give her sum that billy bob thornton sex.
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Lemon Gin= Panty peeler.
There’s a reason the brand is called “Beefeater.”
March 29th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Seymour Bush,772,agree,but what about JRuss,keep him or cut him. I say KEEP him, just not sure how that would work out, MONEY wise
March 29th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
AIG
I LIKE WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT MCNABB” COMING IN AS A STAR” YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE HE IS A PRO BOWL CALIBER QB WHO HITS WR’S IN STRIDE… HE WILL ELEVATE EVERYONES GAME ONCE HE STEPS ON THE FIELD FROM DAY ONE…HE WILL RUN AN OFFENSE USE CLOCK MANAGEMENT AND CONTROL DRIVES WHICH WILL ALLOW THE DEFEENSE TO REST MORE.. IM NOT SAYING WE DONT NEED TO ADDRESS THE D THO.. THEY JUST WONT BE ON THE FIELD AS MUCH LIKE THEY HAVE IN YRS PAST
March 29th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
# 30 year raider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Donavan McNabb is a smart, savvy, strong armed veteran Q with a lot of big game experience . I certainly don’t have a problem with him here. The question is do you give up a 2nd rounder and some late picks?
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ALL DAY LONG SB— ALL DAY LONG!!!!!!!!!!
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Well we got one vote for yes. Let me throw some actual names out there right now. Basically we are going to trade one of these guys for possibly one year of Donavan McNabb:
Mike Iupati OL
Brian Price DL
Maurkice Pouncey OL
Golden Tate WR
Terrance Cody DT
Brandon Spikes ILB
March 29th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
aig Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Snb,
I just dont think it is going to be a simple 2nd round for McNabb. It is going to be more than that.
See you guys think McNabb is in the same situation as plunkett or Gannon and it just aint so. McNabb is coming in as a star and will demand to be treated like one. If you dont think so, then see how he has been acting up there when they benched him. PFT pointed out that for benching McNabb the Ealges had to pay him an extra $5 mil in redoing his contract in 2008. That was their way of cowing to his pouts. Plunkett and Gannon were coming here to prove that they belong in the league.
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Well, its about time we get a star to play the position instead of these plodding hanger ons like McCown and Aaron Brooks, Collins, JaDavis, Gradkowski, Culpepper, Walter, George, Mirer and whoever else.
Also, McNabb would get $11 million this year (Salary and Bonus)….yet are we happy to pay JaDavis $9 million….or Tommy Kelly whatever he’s getting..DHB?
Overpay the QB…we overpay everyone else
And McNabb would be coming with a little of a chip on his shoulder and a desire to succeed…should the trade happen….don’t discount him coming in and shaking things up…working with the receivers to get chemistry instead of going on a bender in Las Vegas….would be refreshing for guys like Schilens, Murphy and Miller who seem to be hard working guys that soak up knowledge
$11 million is what McNabb costs us if we get him. Tell JaDAvis to restructure….and there is $6 million…we cut Warren, Fargas and Green and saved a bunch of money….
Dollars are not the issue. Again, if it doesn’t work out…then we can walk away just as easy….
We know paying JaDavis $9million is a waste
March 29th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
also a trade for mcnabb is bad for grads. its no guarantee that he will make the roster if we decide to get another qb late in the draft or fa. everyone assumes russ will be cut be we wont know anything until it happens. it could be bad news for both or maybe none at all.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
So people are ripping on McNabb because he had one bad game in Oakland last year, therefore, he’s finished as a QB.
But then also saying that Grads can’t be judged on two good games he had last year.
Where’s the logic in that?
March 29th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Price and Iupati and mabey Puncy will all be gone in Rd1.
So if it is Tate, Cody, or Spikes…I take McNabb.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
LIKE I SAID EARLIER IF MCNABB COMES THE OLINE WILL BE ADDRESSED WITH SOME FREE AGENTS..A BOBBI WILLIAMS FRM CINCI MAYBE A KEV MAWAE TO ANCHOR THE MIDDLEOR HOW ABOUT A MARCUS MCNEILL??? WE WILL GET SOME GUYS IN HERE THO IF MCNABB IS OUR QB
March 29th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Draft:
1. Trade up – SUH or if no trade
1. Maurike Pouncey C
2. Dan Williams DT
3. Donald Butler MLB
4. Tony Washington OT
5. Nick Petrus OG
5B Trade for Troy Smith RFA,Ravens
6. John Conner FB
7. Alfonso Smith RB (4.38/40)
7B Denji Karim RB (4.40/40)
March 29th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
RaiderLen Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Price and Iupati and mabey Puncy will all be gone in Rd1.
So if it is Tate, Cody, or Spikes…I take McNabb.
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I agree.
And if McNabb has a great season, they can franchise him, or sign him long term.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
SnB…we all know that Al will pay whowever he pleases.
Money Is not an issue.
As AL sai when trading for Seymour.
“It’s about obtaining the Player”
He works all the other stuff out on an as needed basis.
If He wants McNabb, and Philly is willing to deal…HE WILL have Him.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
ARmond,
Many here are overrating talent. QBs that can play are like gold…even the prospect of talent will lead to some prospecting (see Charlie Whitehurst).
Troy Smith..5th round tender…no takers…Why? The Bills, Cleveland, Rams…no flier? Why?
Gradkowski is only in the league because JaDavis so fantastically busted….but if he’s the man, why didn’t Seattle reach out to the WCO QB with spunk….Cleveland….St. Louis…
These QBs are backups…flash for a couple of games and leave you on the side of the road waiting for a top 5 pick
March 29th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
# hendu Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Seymour Bush,772,agree,but what about JRuss,keep him or cut him. I say KEEP him, just not sure how that would work out, MONEY wise
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Hendu, that is an excellent question. The thing is if you are going to trade for McNabb, basically that makes Russell expendable. Now, I am willing to bet that 25 other teams will come forward for him, but aren’t going to offer much in value. So, he stays. Which means BOTH Frye and Gradkowski go, and you keep Losman as your emergency Q.
All that being said, the Raiders have said they won’t work out a long term deal with McNabb, and they would still let the trade happen. Which means one of two things: either McNabb does a great job here, and you try to resign him, or he doesn’t and you hope Russell got enough out of him to take over the reigns. To me, it’s going to be the latter. Which brings us back to post #781.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
Well, its about time we get a star to play the position instead of these plodding hanger ons like McCown and Aaron Brooks, Collins, JaDavis, Gradkowski, Culpepper, Walter, George, Mirer and whoever else.
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You forgot Donald Hollis. This is a good point. To win big in this league you need a Pro Bowl type Q.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
# JB Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Draft:
1. Trade up – SUH or if no trade
1. Maurike Pouncey C
2. Dan Williams DT
3. Donald Butler MLB
4. Tony Washington OT
5. Nick Petrus OG
5B Trade for Troy Smith RFA,Ravens
6. John Conner FB
7. Alfonso Smith RB (4.38/40)
7B Denji Karim RB (4.40/40)
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WE ARE NOT TRADING UP FOR SUH…
DAN WILLIAMS WILL NOT BE THERE IN RD 2
DON BUTLER WOULD BE A GREAT PIK IN RD3
TONY WASH IS A PERV WHO BANGED HIS SISTER
GET OFF TROY SMITHS JOCK CUZ IF HE WAS ANY GOOD HE WOULD HAVE BEAT OUT FLACCO
I LIKE JOHN CONNER TO PLAY FB
March 29th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
i dont see losman on the team next year if he could be starter for the ufl las vegas locos
March 29th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
Seymour, what it means is after season one, the Raiders can franchise McNabb and do it all over again.
Or, they can negotiate a longer term deal.
With the franchise tag, if Al is willing to pay the freight, they control McNabb for 3 seasons.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
ANYBODY WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL KNOWS YOU MUST HAVE A GOOD SOUND QB TO WIN INTHIS LEAGUE… 2002 BALT RAVENS WITH TRENT DILDO WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN
March 29th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
SnB and 30,
We can go in circles forever on this. My bottomline is McNabb is not the guy you think he is. My stats have shown that he is not durable. My stats on Westbrook have shown that he is the guy that carries that team. My stats have shown that McNabb doesnt make his WR’s better. The most important one and one that should jump out at you is that the QB’s that have replaced McNabb have looked good. Garcia made the probowl. Feely earned a 2nd round from Mia.
At this moment, I am giving up on arguing against McNabb. Jerry Mc has pointed out exactly what I have been saying over a week now. Most football analysts think the Raiders have no business getting him. I rest my case and will no longer argue against this trade. He aint going to last the year any way.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
# RaiderLen Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
Seymour, what it means is after season one, the Raiders can franchise McNabb and do it all over again.
Or, they can negotiate a longer term deal.
With the franchise tag, if Al is willing to pay the freight, they control McNabb for 3 seasons.
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Absolutley. But again, under the scenario I gave with Russell almost certainly staying on the roster, do they?
March 29th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Alright AIG, In your statistical opinion, whom should the QB of the Raiders be?
Is he on the current roster?
Is there one to be traded for or drafted?
What is the solution?
March 29th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
# 30 year raider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
ANYBODY WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL KNOWS YOU MUST HAVE A GOOD SOUND QB TO WIN INTHIS LEAGUE… 2002 BALT RAVENS WITH TRENT DILDO WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN
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You are right. That Ravens team was the best defensive team to come around since that 1985 Bear team. Almost twenty years. We won’t see another defensive team that good for probably another 15-20 years. If ever.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
# 30 year raider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
# JB Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Draft:
1. Trade up – SUH or if no trade
1. Maurike Pouncey C
2. Dan Williams DT
3. Donald Butler MLB
4. Tony Washington OT
5. Nick Petrus OG
5B Trade for Troy Smith RFA,Ravens
6. John Conner FB
7. Alfonso Smith RB (4.38/40)
7B Denji Karim RB (4.40/40)
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WE ARE NOT TRADING UP FOR SUH…
DAN WILLIAMS WILL NOT BE THERE IN RD 2
DON BUTLER WOULD BE A GREAT PIK IN RD3
TONY WASH IS A PERV WHO BANGED HIS SISTER
GET OFF TROY SMITHS JOCK CUZ IF HE WAS ANY GOOD HE WOULD HAVE BEAT OUT FLACCO
I LIKE JOHN CONNER TO PLAY FB
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Given a choice between Pouncey & Williams, I’d say Pouncey. We need a franchise C for the next 10 years. As far as Tony Washington goes I don’t care who he screwed as long as he can play the position. Truth be told, I’m sure there’s been a lot of weird screwing going on in the NFL, so get over it. As far as Troy Smith goes he did beat out Flacco and was scheduled to become the starter and then he fell ill. Flacco then got hot and the rest is history. If we don’t get McNabb then Smith is a far better choice than the JaLoser. as far as trading up don’t second guess AD. He’s certainly done goofier schit than that. Swap our first plus our 2012 1st would get the trade done. If AD wants SUH, he’ll get him.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
# fat kidd Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
i dont see losman on the team next year if he could be starter for the ufl las vegas locos
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he could do both. And I don’t think the Raiders would overly care. Not with McNabb AND Russell on the roster.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Seymour, If McNabb is here for “the duration” Russell has to restructure or be cut.
My point is just that I guess.
I don’t see Al bringing in McNabb for just one season.
Provided of course he’s productive etc…etc..
March 29th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
aig Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
SnB and 30,
We can go in circles forever on this. My bottomline is McNabb is not the guy you think he is. My stats have shown that he is not durable. My stats on Westbrook have shown that he is the guy that carries that team. My stats have shown that McNabb doesnt make his WR’s better. The most important one and one that should jump out at you is that the QB’s that have replaced McNabb have looked good. Garcia made the probowl. Feely earned a 2nd round from Mia.
At this moment, I am giving up on arguing against McNabb. Jerry Mc has pointed out exactly what I have been saying over a week now. Most football analysts think the Raiders have no business getting him. I rest my case and will no longer argue against this trade. He aint going to last the year any way.
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Okay, so your arguement is that McNabb is not as good as he appears to be in Philly. That the team is good, and not him.
But is he better than any QB the Raiders have on their roster? Would he be an improvement over anything they can put on the field? Is he worth a 2nd round pick to help stabilize the position for at least one year?
March 29th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
TALKED TO A GOOD BUDDY OF MINE HE PLAYED ON THE 1996 SUPER BOWL CHAMPION GREEN BAY PACKERS… HE IS A RAIDER FAN HAS BEEN SINCE WE WERE LIL KIDS GROWING UP IN LYNWOOD… HE SAID MCNABB WOULD “CHANGE THE WHOLE DYNAMICS” WE WOULD BE STUPID NOT TO GO AFTER HIM AND HE ALSO SAID THAT BELEIVED WE WOULD GO TO THE PLAYOFFS WITH HIM…I TRUST AND BELEIVE WHAT HE SAYS..
March 29th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
# RaiderLen Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Seymour, If McNabb is here for “the duration” Russell has to restructure or be cut.
My point is just that I guess.
I don’t see Al bringing in McNabb for just one season.
Provided of course he’s productive etc…etc..
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Again, that’s the point. What if he isn’t? For whatever reason. Maybe not his fault. Maybe a tackle blows an assignment and he only plays 5 games. Maybe the new offensive coordinator and he can’t get on the same page. Can’t find a chemistry with the recievers. A lot of things can happen. If he is wildly successful, obviously you would tag him. What if he isn’t?
March 29th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
Just remember that Gannon was an unknown until he got here and fit into an offense that was made for him. He was coached by an energetic young HC who knew what he wanted to do and, irrespective of what AD most likely wanted to do, he did it his way. There was also a powerful O-line in front of him and the D was just coming onto their own.
I guess what this all adds up to is I wish we had Gannon, Chucky and the gang back. It’s so much nicer to win than to have your ass handed to you every week.
The time for change is NOW. So just do something different than what we’ve been doing this last 7 years.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
30 year Raider,
I’d bet the “dynamics” your friend spoke of have to do with atitude and the idea that “we can win”
Established leaders have this effect on entire teams.
Guys “buy in” because the Leader has been there and done that.
Even Pro atheletes need leaders.
There is a pecking order on all levels of athletics.
After Secretariat was put out to stud on a Farm in Kentucky, other younger thorobred Champions were retired to the same farm.
There was only one alpha male…Secretariat.
Even Horses recognize!
The Raiders need an alpha male. “leadership”
March 29th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
2008 season
Smith was scheduled to start in the third preseason game of the 2008 season, but became ill with a rare case of tonsillitis[19]. Due to Smith’s illness, rookie Joe Flacco was named to the Ravens’ starting QB position. Early in the season Smith re-emerged in the offense as part of their two-quarterback offense, and was utilized for short-yardage runs. This offense featured Smith lining up at the wide receiver spot as well as under center. Smith appeared in only six of the Ravens’ 19 games and had a total of 4 passing attempts in the 2008 season.[20]
[edit] 2009 season
For the 2009 season, Flacco was named the starting quarterback for the second consecutive year, while Smith was active for only four of sixteen games. Smith completed five of nine passes for 24 yards with only one interception during the season. In addition, he also rushed eight times for thirty-one yards, including his career-long fifteen-yard touchdown run.[20]
OK SO LIL TROY SMITH HAD A CASE OF TOSILLITIS… THAT LASTS MAYBE 2 WEEKS AT THE MOST… HE DIDNT HAVE SOME SERIOUS INJURY HA HAD SWOLLEN FREAKIN TONSILLS!!! HIS BIGGEST GAME OF HIS CAREER VS FLORIDA IN THE 2006 TITLE HE GOT EXPOSED!!!HE WAS 4-14 FOR 35 YDS! GIMME A BREAK
March 29th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
Len,
Right now, I think we need to focus on our Lines. Sell the whole house for our lines. If the opposing DE is arriving at the same time as our QB is finishing is 3-5 step drop, then it doesnt matter who is back there.
Honestly, I dont know if we have 1 on our roster right now. Grad is unproven but I like the potential in him. Not a fan of Frye nor JR. We have so many holes on our team that not making another huge investment at the QB position is ok with me so long as we use those picks and money to get a bunch of guys to fill in both lines.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
JB Says: I guess what this all adds up to is I wish we had Gannon gannon not even allowed on raider property anymore
March 29th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
# RaiderLen Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
30 year Raider,
I’d bet the “dynamics” your friend spoke of have to do with atitude and the idea that “we can win”
Established leaders have this effect on entire teams.
Guys “buy in” because the Leader has been there and done that.
Even Pro atheletes need leaders.
There is a pecking order on all levels of athletics.
After Secretariat was put out to stud on a Farm in Kentucky, other younger thorobred Champions were retired to the same farm.
There was only one alpha male…Secretariat.
Even Horses recognize!
The Raiders need an alpha male. “leadership”
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YOUR EXACLTLY RIGHT LEN.. WERE A SHIP WITHOUT A CAPTAIN…A PLANE WITHOUT A PILOT…. A RACECAR WITH NO DRIVER!!!!
March 29th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Fellas, the local papers are saying that the Raiders havent had ANY talks about trading for DM,consider the source! out
March 29th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
ENOUGH WITH THE LETS GET TROY SMITH FOR A 5TH RD PICK YAY YA YA YAY WTF ARE GUYS THINKING????
March 29th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
AIG, I agree 100% about the lines.
I’d like to get McNabb and make it mandatory that he be protected.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
Northern,
Given Al’s track record, I just dont believe it will be a 2nd round for McNabb. Plus I doubt McNabb will bust his rear ends off for the Raiders. I have a hard time remembering the last time we brought in a high profile player that produced for us. For all the talk, Seymour was good in 2 games last year.
I was enthusiastic when we got Seymour but realisticly Seymour didnt bust his a$$ off all season.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
I NEED THAT 5TH RD FOR A JEFF BYERS OR A KEVIN THOMAS OR IF HES ON THE BOARD A MICAH JOHNSON…
March 29th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
# 30 year raider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
ASKED:
ENOUGH WITH THE LETS GET TROY SMITH FOR A 5TH RD PICK YAY YA YA YAY WTF ARE GUYS THINKING????
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ANSWER:
WE”RE THINKING THAT ALMOST ANYBODY WITH SOME SKILL & EXPERIENCE IS BETTER THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AT QB. AND< WITHOUT A QB, WE ARE GOING NOWHERE FAST.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
# RaiderLen Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
AIG, I agree 100% about the lines.
I’d like to get McNabb and make it mandatory that he be protected.
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HE WILL BE PROTECTED…. THERE ARE PLENTY OF OL LEFT VIA FREE AGENCY… JUST A MATTER OF GETTING DONOVAN FIRST THEN LETTING GUYS MAKE AN ASSESMENT OF WHAT THEY COULD DO WITH THEM BLOCKING FOR HIM….
March 29th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
30 Year Raider,
I agree… Land the big fish, work from there.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
hendu Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Fellas, the local papers are saying that the Raiders havent had ANY talks about trading for DM,consider the source! out
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Local where?
France?
March 29th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
AIG
YOU REALLY DONT UNDERSTAND FOOTBALL THAT WELL DO YOU???IF YOU TRULY WATCHED SEYMOUR LAST YEAR THEN YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT HE WAS CONSTANTLY DOUBLE AND EVEN TRIPLE TEAMED…
March 29th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
McNabb is 33. If Al Davis were to seriously hire a GM, and really do what it takes to build a real NFL team, by the time we actually had a competitive team to surround McNabb with, he’ll be 36, and, probably paralyzed considering he’ll be playing behind this line. It’s not necessarily a bad move, it would be more of a useless, time wasting move.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
THEY WERE ABLE TO DOUBLE TEAM HIM BECAUSE WARREN SUCKED!!! GREG ELLIS WAS NOT CONSISENT COMING OFF THE EDGE DUE TO INJURY…TOMMY KELLY GOT TIRED AT END OF GAMES B/C OF BEING ON THE FIELD SO LONG
March 29th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
30,
Let’s not get into insulting each other ok. I think I have proven enough football knowledge on the stats I pulled from McNabb.
Seymour’s best games was his first against SD. Even doubleteamed he still got the first sack. His second was against the Eagles. 4 sacks on the season and they came in both of those games. I still watch the Pitt game on my Tivo. There was this myth that teams dont run against Seymour…ooops…Pitt ran right at him at the goaline. he was one on one and they scored. That was jsut one of the many situations I saw last year.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
MR, would McNabb make the Raiders better?
I mean mabey win 1 to 4 games more because he was QB as oppossed to the others on the roster now?
March 29th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
thats right the defense got tired being on the field so much,and the offense always starting at their own 20 because we do not have a kick returner
March 29th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Wow. It’s great to see AIG denounce personal attacks. I’m guessing he only doesn’t like it when they come his way. He loves dishing it out, though.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
Len, no, he wouldn’t. In fact, I predict he’d get hurt in the first half of the season. I’m not talking about a chance injury, I’m talking about an injury that’s a result of our poor line and playcalling.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
Actually Mrs.
The guys tonite have pretty good knowledge and are reasonable It’s when morons like you that gets on here that I have little patience for.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
fat kidd Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
thats right the defense got tired being on the field so much,and the offense always starting at their own 20 because we do not have a kick returner
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Facsinating how it all fit together isn’t it?
One unit effecting another.
Imagine status quo on two units…you think improvement in the 3rd might effect the outcome of games?
March 29th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Ha ha ha! There he is, personally insulting someone, just like that. Glad I didn’t feel bad for you when you plead with 30 year Raider to stop with the insults. Have fun with him. Because I don’t think he’s going to stop insulting you. And, he probably shouldn’t.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Ok STeve Corkran wrote that 2 Raider Employees contacted him to flat out deny the raiders had any contacts with the Eagles. Steve is a straight up guy.
That means only 3 things.
1. It is now official the Raiders cannot get McNabb.
2. McNabb wants to go to the Vikings only if traded.
3. The Raiders want to save face by flatout denying they ever had any talks.
you know one of those 2 employees was definitely John Herrera. The other one must be Taylor.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
Aig, what’s your name stand for?
March 29th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
The one thing about bringing in McNabb is that it will solidify the position of QB.
Then they can look at the rest of the offence and figure out where to go from there. Pick up a guard, another WR, whatever. When you have a decent QB, you have a baseline from which to go from.
Without a decent QB, you have chaos on offence.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
McNabb is 33. If Al Davis were to seriously hire a GM, and really do what it takes to build a real NFL team, by the time we actually had a competitive team to suround McNabb with, he’ll be 36, and, probably paralyzed considering he’ll be playing behind this line. It’s not necessarily a bad move, it would be more of a useless, time wasting move.
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HUE JACKSONS A FOOTBALL GUY AS IS TOM CABLE….
THESE GUYS WANT TO WIN NOW… THIS TEAM IS NOT AS FAR AS YOU GUYS THINK. LETS GET THAT STRAIGHT RIGHT NOW… ONCE THE BIG FISH COMES OTHERS WILL FOLLOW … I DO BELIEVE THO WE NEED A SERIOUS MLB A GUY WHO CAN TAKE ON THE FB, PULLING GUARDS SHED BLOCKS AND MAKE TACKLES…ROLANDO MCCLAIN MUST BE THE PICK IF WE LAND DONOVAN… THEN A DT IN THE 3RD..
IF WE GET DM FOR A #2 WE SHOULD DRAFT LIKE THIS
RD1 MCCLAIN-MLB
RD3 CAM THOMAS IF AVAIL OR A LAMMAR HOUSTON DT
RD4 A CB HERE BEST AVAIL KEVIN THOMAS???
RD5 OG BRANDON CARTER TYPE GUY/
RD5 OT FOX OUT OF MIAMI CAN BE A STEAL HERE
RD7 FB
RD7 OLB
March 29th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
Len, no, he wouldn’t. In fact, I predict he’d get hurt in the first half of the season. I’m not talking about a chance injury, I’m talking about an injury that’s a result of our poor line and playcalling.
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Could happen.
What if he had an average O Line?
March 29th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
IM A PROFESSIONAL IM AM NOT INTO INSULTING OTHERS… I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO SEE THIS OBJECTIVELY… A PRO BOWL TYPE QB MIGHT BE COMING TO TOWN… I DONT CARE WHAT COLOR HE IS OK SATANFEARSAL— BLACK, WHITE, GREEN, YELLOW WHATEVER I JUST WANT A LEADER AT THE MOST IMPORTANT POSITION ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD…DONOVAN IS THAT!
March 29th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
Aig…got a link for Corcorans report?
March 29th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_14781527
Raiders sources say team hasn’t had talks about trading for Donovan McNabb, contrary to ESPN report
By Steve Corkran
Oakland Tribune
Posted: 03/29/2010 07:21:13 PM PDT
Updated: 03/29/2010 10:02:00 PM PDT
An ESPN report Monday said that the Raiders are the leading candidate to land Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb in a much-rumored trade that could be consummated soon.
If so, that’s news to the Raiders.
Two Raiders employees remain steadfast that the Raiders haven’t even spoken with the Eagles about McNabb, who is in the final year of his contract.
Also, Eagles coach Andy Reid said last week that he isn’t seeking to trade McNabb, just listening to offers.
That hasn’t prevented the McNabb-to-the-Raiders angle from being explored from coast to coast, in the papers, on the Internet and across the airwaves.
Last week, Yahoo! Sports said the Raiders and Buffalo Bills were the front-runners for McNabb. Somewhere along the line, the Bills fell by the wayside. ESPN on Monday characterized the Raiders as the “leader” for McNabb’s services, according to unnamed league sources.
Those sources base their stance on the fact that the Raiders meet the criteria for a trade going down.
One, the Raiders aren’t scared off by the fact McNabb is due a $6.2 million roster bonus in May and $11.2 million overall next season. Two, the Raiders aren’t concerned about McNabb entering the final year of his contract.
Also, the Raiders supposedly are willing to part with the level of compensation the Eagles are seeking. Several reports say the Eagles want at least a high second-round draft pick. The Raiders have one —
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No. 39 overall.
The ESPN report also made note of the Syracuse connection shared by McNabb and Raiders managing partner Al Davis, and McNabb being a distant cousin of Raiders offensive coordinator Hue Jackson, for what it’s worth.
Last week, several reports surfaced about the Raiders dangling Pro Bowl cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha as part of the compensation for McNabb.
The two Raiders employees contacted about this story said Asomugha isn’t available for trade, and they scoffed at the mention by ESPN.
Reports out of Philadelphia say McNabb has told Reid he wants to play for the Eagles next season, his 12th in the NFL, and that he would prefer to go to the Minnesota Vikings if traded.
The Raiders, Eagles and Vikings have three quarterbacks with starting experience in the NFL on their rosters. None of the three is desperate to make a move.
Some reports out of Philadelphia paint a picture of a situation where Reid wants McNabb as his quarterback but others in the Eagles front office prefer youngster Kevin Kolb.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
one thing about mcnabb trade people are sounding like its mcnabbs choice where he goes,its not its the eagles decision say your gone to the raiders then your gone!
March 29th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Thanks Aig.
The beat goes on.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
OMG,
The Raiders are bringing in Jonathan Crompton from the Vols. He is the worst Vols QB in the last 10 years after being ranked the 3rd best QB coming out of highschool. Oh god please do not draft him. I live in Vols country. They hate him here and he is that bad.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
johnathan crompton was coached by lane do no wrong kiffin
March 29th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
Seymour post #736 great post I did the same thing and saw the same thing. They didn’t have a chance to make much happen behind that line it was pathetic. When Russell won the Denver game he was under all kinds of duress and took a vicious hit got up and beat them. The other guy’s got killed.
I was listening to David Carr today on Chronicle Live and he’s going into his 10 season and admittted he is finally feeling comfortable and confident that he can play the position. That’s 10 years 4 teams and he’s just now getting to where he understands what he has to do to be great.
It’s hard to get that across to impatient fans but that’s what it takes to play that position years not months. Gannon took 8 years several teams. If you are fortunate enough to have the same coaches year after year it can acelerate the process but changing coaches every year takes a toll on a young QB.
We are fortunate that Russell is getting it this early some take longer. But I think McNabb would be a HUGE help to his maturation process. This is the most demanding position in sports it takes time unfortunately fans just don’t want to wait but there are no short cuts.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
30 Year Raider, I think you need to be told that this team isn’t as close as you think.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
post 821,len,guess I should have drawn a map for ya,the Raiders play in CA,in the Bay Area,so maybe you would check out the Oakland Tribune,Sf Chron,San Jose Mercury,the Argus,etc, ALL with info that I said earlier! Sorry I forgot some need direction
March 29th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
they seem a lot closer with the cancer out of the locker room aka randy moss
March 29th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
You’re welcome Len.
On to the next one I guess. I sincerely hope Al trade up for Suh. He has traded up to the 2nd spot before.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
Easy Hendu,
RaiderLen is a good guy.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
aig Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
OMG,
The Raiders are bringing in Jonathan Crompton from the Vols. He is the worst Vols QB in the last 10 years after being ranked the 3rd best QB coming out of highschool. Oh god please do not draft him. I live in Vols country. They hate him here and he is that bad.
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Al has a total stiffy for former high school all-Americans who underperformed in college.
Eric Barton, Ronald Curry…
March 29th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
30 Year Raider, I think you need to be told that this team isn’t as close as you think.
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thats your opinion and your entitled to it…. i know football there is talent on this team…
March 29th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
As for Jerry’s assesment that McNabb isn’t the longterm answer. I don’t think the Raiders are banking on McNabb beyond maybe 2 years if that. What they want in reality is an example of what it takes to be a real pro. From someone who’s been successful. He can show him how to execute against the variety of fronts that he will see and how to lead.
These other two guy’s are wannabes who just don’t measure up. It much better for Russell to see it from someone who’s been dominant and can still be great. That way he has no choice but to listen and learn from someone who’s willing to teach.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
Northern,
I think you are right. I also think Al wants to stick it to Kitten that he can make Crompton a QB where Kitten couldnt. That crazy old Al is his worst enemy.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Jerry MacDonald I think wrote an article or maybe Andy Reid said that we run a very similar offense to theirs. Look it up.
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In other words, you don’t know wtf you’re talking about.
You provide a link.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
mcnabb and russell on the same team would not work out jamarcus would see mcnabb on the back of his jersey and start thinking about mcfries mcapple pie big mac put on another 30lbs
March 29th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
30 year Raider fan, that’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it. I know football and I know that this team does not have talent.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Of course Davis loyalists don’t measure success by wins and losses anyway (because they obviously can’t)
March 29th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
30 year raider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
30 Year Raider, I think you need to be told that this team isn’t as close as you think.
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thats your opinion and your entitled to it…. i know football there is talent on this team…
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lets talk for a min… different sport… boston celtcs 2008.. what were they b4 they got KG????
THEY WERE A SUB 500 TEAM THEY GOT KG THEN OTHERS FOLLOWED IE.. RAY ALLEN, PJ BROWN, EDDIE HOUSE… SAME SCENARIO IF MCNABB COMES– OTHERS WILL FOLLOW B/C AL DAVIS PAYS AND MCNABB IS A PROFESSIONAL
March 29th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
fat kidd that’s funny, is that what you do?
March 29th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
stats that are overlooked are the championship games and superbowl appearance.all this talk of how he doesnt make his recievers better is ridiculous. he had no real ones until T.O. and just now with dj, maclin and even avant. dude is a better qb than gannon ever was. i could easily say that troy aikman was overrated. why didnt he win without emmitt? now talk about a qb who rode someones coattails its troy. he was very average at this stage of his career but donovan is taking off.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
MR, since when do you know talent or football………… what happened you died and went to heaven? I haven’t seen a sound football thought from you ever…
March 29th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
no i am a diesel mechanic /parts salesman
March 29th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
Armond
If Donovan was taking off, the Eagles would not be getting rid of him. Hello?
March 29th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
But Priesttj
You’re just an Al Davis dik suking shill. Hello?
You’ve got the worst track record in here, besides Big Al.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
priest, since when do you know talent? You’re in here every night telling us how great JaMarcus Russell is, for crying out loud. Do you realize there are only like 20 people on the entire planet who think Russell is a good quarterback?
March 29th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
Armond,
anyone who think thinks McNabb can’t get it done but think Grads can, says all you need to know.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
30 year fan, using the NBA to make a point about an NFL team is absurd.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
Priesttj
Sorry, for the mean comment. But seriously, for a guy with your track record, you’d think you’d be a little more, “thoughtful’ when commenting on other’s “knowledge”
March 29th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
oh, screw priest. He’s as vicious as they come. Let him take his medicine.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
KK, you and MR deserve each other, both of you don’t know talent or football worth crap.
All either of know is that you hate Al Davis that is the extent of any knowledge you have. KK the reposter and MR the village idiot. Makes fr a good pair.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
i heard people in here think we should draft clausen he throws a ball that looks like a wounded duck
March 29th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
Does anyone else find it hilarious that a guy who thinks JaMarcus Russell is a good quarterback is accusing others of not knowing anything about football?
March 29th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
Oh, but of course, you know things about Russell we don’t know. Because, you’ve “seen this kid play”. lol. After all, we don’t get CBS with our cable packages.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
Remember that MTV commercial where those two wannabe music promoters would stand in front of that t.v. store and and say, “oh, this guy’s the next thing, we’re going to make him a star” whenever some singer who already was a star was on t.v.? Preist?
March 29th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
Al Davis is 29-83, period.
Gnite.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
30 year fan, using the NBA to make a point about an NFL team is absurd.
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I KNEW SOME MORON WOULD SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT….THATS WHY I SAID DIFF SPORT…ITS AN OVERAL SPORT ANALOGY OF WHAT ONE PLAYER CAN DO TO AN ENTIRE TEAM.. ITS A DOMINO EFFECT THERE SMARTY PANTS… GET IT!
March 29th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
MR ther are 5 year olds that know more than you. you’re clueless……………period and that’s being kind.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
kell good players get traded. u would know that if u werent so preoccupied with al davis. can u post up mcnabbs stats from last year like u do al davis? 3500 yards 22 tds 10 ints sounds damn good to me.watch him play with those young wrs and see how much better he looks now than when he had crap like freddie mitchell braggin about his wonderful hands.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
armond
if it weren’t for their hate for mr davis those two would have a tough posting. then they might have to actually talk football. game over!
March 29th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
# armond Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
kell good players get traded. u would know that if u werent so preoccupied with al davis. can u post up mcnabbs stats from last year like u do al davis? 3500 yards 22 tds 10 ints sounds damn good to me.watch him play with those young wrs and see how much better he looks now than when he had crap like freddie mitchell braggin about his wonderful hands.
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YOU FORGOT THE 93% QB RATING
& THE 60% COMPLETION
March 29th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
priest i dont understand all this potential grads has but mcnabb is now a system qb!! grads has nowhere near the talent as mcnabb nor has he proven he can win. he also hasnt proved he is durable but we get aig bringing up stats about mcnabbs injuries. how many 16 games seasons has grads put in over the last 6 years? this fanbase has become so clueless they will accept anything that looks like what they want. they are willing to send jr to the streets despite the big money spent but wouldnt wanna give up too much to get mcnabb. just pathetic!!!
March 29th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
YOU FORGOT THE 93% QB RATING
& THE 60% COMPLETION
my bad!!!!!!!!!
March 29th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
Oh, ok, you warned me that you were going to bring up a different sport. That makes sense, 30 year fan. Sort of like if you were going to warn me that you thought 2+2=5. It’s still a dumb ass comparison. NBA basketball is not even near the same game as NFL football.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
people that hate al davis he is worth about 1/2 billion dollars ?
March 29th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
priest, think Russell will be a pro bowler?
March 29th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
aawwwh, poor Al Davis. Everybody’s picking on him. doesn’t it make you mad, fatt kid?
March 29th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
IVE ALREADY GIVEN MCNABBS STATS OVER THE LAST 3 SEASONS… 44 OUT OF 48 STARTS…10,800 YDS 64 TDS 28 INTS…
BUT THIS IS WHAT I HEAR LETS JUST HAVE GRADKOWSKI PLAY OR LETS TRADE OUR 5TH RD FOR TROY SMITH WOW!!! WOW!!! TROY SMITH THAT GUYS A STUD!!! LMAO YA RIGHT MORE LIKE A DUD !!!
March 29th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Do you mean pro-bowler? Or professional bowler?
I think he stands a better chance at becoming the latter.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
posting in caps = being afraid nobody will notice your comment. Sad.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
Armond these fans are lost in the losing streak. They’ve lost hope and second guess everything the organization does. They’ll believe a sports writer over a football man. Because the only thing they understand is what they want. They want to win and anything that they perceave as standing in the way of that real or imagined they attack.
They really don’t know what they want nor how to get there. So they listen to people who have no clue because it sounds good. Russell is ridiculed by the media and it seems right so they buy it. They will beg for something and as soon as they get it if it’s doesn’t give them instant success they turn on it. That’s why someone a long time ago gave them the name fanatics. There is no rhyme or reason for their attacks other than ‘we didn’t win’.
An organization or coach or player would be insane to listen to irrational responses to something they barely understand. Some don’t understand it even barely. They just want to vent and that’s what they’re good at.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
D, I just want to hear the guy who’s comparing my football knowledge to that of a 5 year old tell us that Russell will be a Pro Bowler some day. It’s capitalized, btw, signifying that it is an event, and not an adjective.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:50 pm
priest, what football man? Ha ha ha ha! These sports writers know 20 times more than anyone in here, or in the organization. That’s why they’re rarely wrong, and shills like you, plus the team spokespeople, are habitually wrong.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:50 pm
Don’t think you’ll get an answer though…
March 29th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
Oh, ok, you warned me that you were going to bring up a different sport. That makes sense, 30 year fan. Sort of like if you were going to warn me that you thought 2+2=5. It’s still a dumb ass comparison. NBA basketball is not even near the same game as NFL football.
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I KNOW ONE IS PLAYED OUTSIDE WITH AN OVAL SHAPED BALL WHILE THE OTHER IS PLAYED INSIDE WITH A BIG ROUND ONE! THE BIG ROUND ONE HAS FIIIIIIIVE PLAYERS…. THE OTHER HAS 10…. OOPS I MEAN ELEVENNNNNNNNNN.LMAO
March 29th, 2010 at 11:54 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
posting in caps = being afraid nobody will notice your comment. Sad.
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DONT WORRY ABOUT HOW I WRITE… LAST TIME I CHECKED ITS MY COMPUTER MY INTERNET BILL MY ELECTRICITY. YOUR LACK OF FOOTBALL KNOWLEDGE IS WHATS REALLY SAD!!!!!LMAO
March 29th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
Armond,
you should stop letting your emotions control your writings because you seem to be contradicting your own argument as well as misquoting me.
1. You claim that the stats that get overlooked is championship games and SB? Well he won 1 out of how many championship games? He is 0-1 in the SB.
2. I never said Grad is the guy. I said he is yet to be proven. I like what I saw so far BUT I said we need to fix the line. Grad is ok for me to be the stop gap until we fix the line and then we will see. It’s much cheaper to have Grad back there with that shytty line vs McNabb and his ten mil plus the King’s ransom we will pay for him. All of our QB’s got knocked out last year. ALL 3 QB’S GOT KNOCKED OUT. Do you think McNabb will last with us given that he has 1 full season in the last 6 years and 5 full seasons in an 11 yr career? You think McNabb is going to be ok back there when he only has 1.2 secs?
3. A knowledgeble football fan would know that a good RB makes the QB looks better. A good QB makes his receivers look better. It’s not a coincidence that Brady, Peyton, Brees, and now Rivers make no name receivers look alot better than they are. Over his 11 years career, McNabb has yet to make any of his no name receivers better. DeSean has proven to produce at every level. THAT IS A FACT.
4. The raiders are the laughingstock of the league. We are no longer the team that players want to come here to play. To get any star player here Al Davis has to give a King’s ransom. That is a FACT.
Facts are facts Armond. You may have your own opinion but at least make it a reasonable one and try not to contradict yourself before you start blasting other people on here as pathetic fans.
Good nite.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
The Real MaddenRaider
LETS BE HONEST HERE… YOU HAVE NEVER PUT ON A FOOTBALL HELMET AND PADS HAVE YOU???
March 29th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
OK, my lack of football knowledge? I’m not the one using a game involving 5 players and an 11 man roster to make a point about a game involving 11 players and a 53 man roster.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
30 year fan, let’s be honest here, you’re wearing a football helmet and pads right now, aren’t you?
March 29th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
Here it is folks, the
ALL NAME DRAFT
ROUND 1
Ndamakung Suh
Ndamakung is Cameroon for “house of spears.”
He grew up fast and he grew up mean. His fists got hard and his wits got keen. Life ain’t easy for a boy named Suh.
ROUND 2
LB Pat Angerer
Some people were just meant to play Linebacker.
ROUND 3
TE Scott Sicko
“Hobbies include torturing (censored) and (censored).
ROUND 4
TE Michael Hoomanawanui
Grew up poor. Parents couldn’t afford shoes, so they bought him vowels instead.
ROUND 5
CB Alterraun Verner
Wasn’t that the planet they blew up in Star Wars?
ROUND 6
FB John Connor
Plays like a machine. Like a machine…
ROUND 7
QB Dan LeFevour
Middle name “Disco.”
Others…
OT Vladimir Ducasse
CB Javier Arenas
QB Mike Kafka
QB Juice Williams
WR Golden Tate
DT Boo Robinson
P Zoltan Mesko
WR Micheal Moore
And
CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
March 29th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
do not post in caps rmr eyes are bad from masterbating 5 times a day.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:01 am
5 times a day? I couldn’t even do that when I was 21, tubby.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:03 am
ITS AN ANALOGY REGARDING WHAT ONE PLAYER CAN DO TO A FRANCHISE…. 1988 LA DODGERS ONE MAN ELEVATED EVERYONES GAME THAT GUY –KIRK GIBSON ONE SWING BROKE THE HAPLESS OAKLAND A’S TO THE GROUND!!!! AN ANALOGY THERE DUMB DUMB JUST A FREAKIN ANALOGY THATS ALL!!!
March 30th, 2010 at 12:05 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
30 year fan, let’s be honest here, you’re wearing a football helmet and pads right now, aren’t you?
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IF I WAS ID LAY YOUR OLD ASS OUT.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:05 am
Armond,
See what I mean #post 893 says it all. If that isn’t the single dumbest statement I’ve ever read it’s in his top 5. Now anyone who thinks this fool knows anything about football is crazy that post is proof positive that he is absolutely clueless.
What a freakin’ dumbell…
March 30th, 2010 at 12:09 am
priesttj Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
As for Jerry’s assesment that McNabb isn’t the longterm answer. I don’t think the Raiders are banking on McNabb beyond maybe 2 years if that. What they want in reality is an example of what it takes to be a real pro. From someone who’s been successful. He can show him how to execute against the variety of fronts that he will see and how to lead.
These other two guy’s are wannabes who just don’t measure up. It much better for Russell to see it from someone who’s been dominant and can still be great. That way he has no choice but to listen and learn from someone who’s willing to teach.
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I totally agree with this. What I like about McNabb in this role is that the was the no. 2 pick in the draft and has had to deal with hater fans just like JR. There may not be a better role model in the league for him. It annoys the hell out of me to hear guys like Gannon and Jim Miller criticize Russell’s work ethic and praise Gradkowski. They identify with Grads because they were drafted in the lower rounds and had to scratch and claw to get what Russell got from the beginning. Boomer Esiason, another Russell hater, felt slighted because he didn’t go till the second round. All these guys just resent JR and can’t wait to tear him down. You never hear Phil Simms hating like those guys. The fact that he was picked no. 7 overall and understands the pressure of being picked that high is no coincidence.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:10 am
SPORT WRITERS ARE A BUNCH OF GEEKS WHO HAVE NEVER PLAYED THE GAME JUST A BUNCH OF PENCIL PUSHERS!!!
March 30th, 2010 at 12:13 am
how am i contradicting myself? a smart football fan wouldnt post up stats about one qb not being durable when the one u like hasnt proven to be.mcnabb was the #2 overall pick and has played like it. if he didnt make any of his wrs look better how did he get to all of those championship games early in his career? get over yourself with all the emotional crap. your reasoning makes no sense at all. the lines need to be fixed whether we get him or not. u have stated in the past that u felt grads could be the guy and that u like his potential. wouldnt his potential make him more than a stop gap or is that a contradiction of how u really feel? his potential is either good enuff to win or he isnt worth the time. u better off seeing if jr can be salvaged. a 2nd round pick isnt a kings ransom if thats what it takes and we dont know if mcnabb wouldnt want to play here. 3 did qbs get knocked out but only one was healthy at the end of the year and it wasnt your boy grads. now hows that for durability. u talk about me being emotional but question my knowledge of the game cuz i dont buy into your stat heavy bullsh!t. thats pathetic
March 30th, 2010 at 12:14 am
RUSSELL HAS NO WORK ETHIC!! THATS WHY HE HAS LET HIMSELF GO TO OVER 290LBS.. WHAT A JOKE
March 30th, 2010 at 12:15 am
i always see peyton manning run to the sidelines and right to coach tom moore. lets wait and see what hue jackson can do for j.russell.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:17 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
30 year fan, let’s be honest here, you’re wearing a football helmet and pads right now, aren’t you?
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HOPEFULLY HE WONT BE RUNNIN TO HUE IF MCNABB IS OUR QB
HE WILL BE WADDLING TO WHATABURGER!!!
March 30th, 2010 at 12:18 am
FAT KID—
SORRY THAT WAS MY REPLY TO 911
March 30th, 2010 at 12:20 am
as far as his weight ,we got six months till the start of the season and jenny craig
March 30th, 2010 at 12:21 am
priest checkout post 897 now what is that about? debo thats what i was thinking about him here also. jr has his part in this mess but i feel he can still get it 2gether. however he has made the organization look for an alternative just in case.if it aint russell then we need to get a better qb who we know can win now while they clean this mess up and start over again with a new youngin with potential. grads and frye aint it and plenty of non raider fans will tell u that. only gannon/garcia lovin wackos believe in him over mcnabb.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:23 am
# fat kidd Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 12:20 am
as far as his weight ,we got six months till the start of the season and jenny craig
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SEE THERE FATTY– EVERYONE SAYS JENNY CRAIG THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT HE MIGHT TRY AND EAT JENNY CRAIG…YUMMY A NEW DELICASY HUMANS– IMAGINE HOW MUCH WEIGHT HE WOULD GAIN THEN!
March 30th, 2010 at 12:26 am
PEACE OUT BED TIME
March 30th, 2010 at 12:26 am
3. A knowledgeble football fan would know that a good RB makes the QB looks better. A good QB makes his receivers look better. It’s not a coincidence that Brady, Peyton, Brees, and now Rivers make no name receivers look alot better than they are. Over his 11 years career, McNabb has yet to make any of his no name receivers better. DeSean has proven to produce at every level. THAT IS A FACT.
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I agree with some of your stuff, but you’re way off base with this statement. I don’t believe for a minute that Manning, Brady, Brees or Rivers made “no name” receivers look great. It totally goes both ways. All have had damn good receivers to throw to. Let’s take Brady for instance. Your basis for the above statement is Deion Branch? That guy was damn good! His main issue in Seattle was injuries. You really don’t think Seattle scouts looked at game film before giving him that big deal? C’mon man. And if Brady is so great and can make any receiver look good, why didn’t Chad Jackson pan out? The Pats traded up 16 spots to get the guy in the second round, and he turned out to be a bust. By your theory, he should be heading for Canton by now. And please try and tell me that Moss didn’t make Brady better. Before the record season when he threw 50 tds, he’d never thrown more than like 26 in a season. As far as the other guys, Manning has had Marvin Harrison and still has Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark. Look at all the early-round talent the Colts have invested in during Manning’s career. Brees benefits from a great offense put together by Sean Payton. Marques Colston, Reggie Bush and Robert Meachem are no slouches. And Rivers got to come along very slowly. Once he did get to play, they relied on LT before Rivers really came into his own. Doesn’t hurt to have Antonio Gates while you gain chemistry with a couple of 7-foot WRs. Oh, and Chris Chambers and Darren Sproles aren’t bad weapons either.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:31 am
if you have a reciever like dhb why dont the raiders take advantage of his speed ?such as end around ,wide reciever screen , reverse etc.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:31 am
the funny thing is they call us apologists for jr yet we advocate bringin in mcnabb tho it MIGHT mean the end for russell. they dont want mcnabb here cuz they KNOW its the end for grads yet we are apologists! its not our money so why should we care how its spent? if it can be done then do it. it just goes to show that they wanna win THEIR way more than whats good for the organization. waste money dumpin jr instead of developing him right but a 2nd rnd pick is a kings ransom for DM. they said all season and early this year they just want to get some good qb play and now that their boy is in danger theyre backtracking. they said grads could be the guy but now that mcnabbs in play they see him as a stop gap. haha
March 30th, 2010 at 12:32 am
Kind of like Al Davis?
March 30th, 2010 at 12:38 am
armond Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 12:21 am
priest checkout post 897 now what is that about? debo thats what i was thinking about him here also. jr has his part in this mess but i feel he can still get it 2gether. however he has made the organization look for an alternative just in case.if it aint russell then we need to get a better qb who we know can win now while they clean this mess up and start over again with a new youngin with potential. grads and frye aint it and plenty of non raider fans will tell u that. only gannon/garcia lovin wackos believe in him over mcnabb.
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I agree Armond. JR definitely created some of this. It just pisses me off that the Raiders haven’t done their part to build this thing around him. I’ve said it many times, and I’ll say it again. The Raiders had one of the worst offseasons of all time between 2008 and 2009. I think Al listened to Cable too much. We should have kept everything intact so we could build on the momentum we had and the end of 2008. Losing Knapp to Seattle, Brian Schneider to USC, bringing in Garcia and starting to rookie WRs ruined our season as far as I’m concerned. JR has work to do, but he needs help just like any other QB in the history of the league.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:00 am
The main problem is that, for the last several years, the Raiders simply stopped being the Raiders — the fire, the swagger, the nasty attitude: all gone. Cable tried to bring the guys in and work fundamentals only during the early part of training camp (when he wasn’t beating the crap out of coaches and wives), but he had a young inexperienced receiving corps, a fat diva at quarterback, a defensive line like sand (Sands) and an offensive line that could barely push around a shopping cart. Now, we’re in Year Two of the “Cable Project”: with or without JaDavis Russell, we need to build the two lines. Trent Williams is ready to step in and make an impact on the O-line; the DT from Texas would make a serviceable second round pick. We can’t be swayed by glamour and glitz — we’ve got to get back to being who we always were: teh team that everyone feared!
March 30th, 2010 at 5:14 am
Trade DMAC for a flashback and a stripper pole!
March 30th, 2010 at 5:23 am
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March 30th, 2010 at 5:25 am
Stripper poles like Dmac our over rated give me an aggressive lap dance any day. Yeah why give up Nhamdi great guy great player last time I checked every team he has been on has been awful and we pay him 14 mill a year and like every guy on our loser squads never get in anybody’s face just getting his check. Wonder what basics Cable has in store for the guys this year.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:31 am
Morning レイダーネイション
So I guess Jerry is Just going to leave this dead thread up till his chat..
March 30th, 2010 at 5:42 am
Ohayoo Gozaimasu Nation!!!
McNabb…good vs. bad!!! I knew someday that the contrast of why it is bad for the Raiders to get McNabb will surface!!! Jerry does make some good points though…but…
March 30th, 2010 at 5:44 am
Tbone…post 923…
Its been awhile bro! Good point…we need to get that nastiness back!!! The team that EVERYONE hated to play in OakTown and anywhere period!!!
March 30th, 2010 at 6:06 am
Anyone alive this morning?
Hello, hello, hello…is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me?…
March 30th, 2010 at 6:19 am
Morning Hwnrdr…. I’m here.. Oline in 10..
March 30th, 2010 at 6:20 am
I’d even say draft OT in the 1st round and put him at RT…and hope and pray the defense doesn’t give up too many points with its poor run defense
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S&B: wow – never thought I’d hear you say that!
if we trade a 2nd rounder for McNabb …
1st (NT) Dan Williams
3rd (C) Matthew Tennant
4th (T) Calloway or Fox
5th (MLB) Micah Johnson
5th (FB) John Conner
and get a few guards in free agency.
Bobbie Williams, Randy Thomas, Shawn Andrews, Ben Hamilton are available. Or we could always re-sign Langston Walker?
March 30th, 2010 at 6:22 am
Trade DMAC for a flashback and a stripper pole!
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trade JaWalrus for some flapjacks and a fishing pole!
March 30th, 2010 at 6:23 am
Morning 408, Rockstar!!!
How you fellas this morning?
March 30th, 2010 at 6:26 am
Back to the McNabb trade. I have changed my mind and decided it would be worth it IF we cut JaBling…
March 30th, 2010 at 6:28 am
Trent Williams is ready to step in and make an impact on the O-line; the DT from Texas would make a serviceable second round pick.
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I would be more than satisfied with Trent Williams & Lamarr Houston in the first 2 rounds, but Houston would have to pack on about 10-20 pounds to play NT.
but what about QB? you said “with or without Russell” …
I think we could get Ciron Black in Round 3 and he’d be a starter at RT from Day 1
March 30th, 2010 at 6:29 am
good morning Hwnrdr, BCZ, 408, etc
March 30th, 2010 at 6:31 am
morning RRS so hows the list looking?
March 30th, 2010 at 6:32 am
Bcz24…Yeah that would be but I seriously doubt JaBling will get cut…sad but true! I feel ya though. Russell, to me, doesn’t get it yet, and Grads…not sure if he can be healthy the whole year! But then again…will McNabb be?
March 30th, 2010 at 6:32 am
McNabb, Gradkowski & Frye = solid at QB
Russell, Gradkowski & Frye = awful at QB (because you know JR won’t be paid $9.5 million to ride the pine all year) especially not behind some veteran 3rd string journeyman types
Bruce & Charlie are better than JaMarcus, but who isn’t? That alone doesn’t guarantee us any more than 5 wins …
March 30th, 2010 at 6:33 am
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March 30th, 2010 at 6:37 am
Good morning all.
Sorry Hwnrdr,had to get some coffee.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:40 am
since the Raiders seem to be the only team in “hot pursuit” of Donovan McNabb, I wonder what we could get him for?
do you guys think the Eagles would ever consider bringing McNabb back to Philly for 1 more season after all this mess? I don’t. What a slap in the face that would be to McNabb & Kolb!
Remember when the Patriots were the only team in “hot pursuit” of Randy Moss? we accepted a 4th rounder just to get rid of him!
I think the Raiders are smart to wait it out and drag this thing on & on. Eventually the Eagles will have to just take what they can get.
If he ends up on another team? oh well
trade a 5th for Troy Smith or Sage Rosenfels and move on with the “open competition” as originally planned
March 30th, 2010 at 6:41 am
I think including Asomugha and Samuels is too much though… give our 2nd for McNabb, OR give Asomugha straight up for McNabb. Nnamdi AND a second is way to much for McNabb. If we were a decent QB away from the Super Bowl I would say do it, but we have a lot of holes and McNabb is only going to bring us to the .500 region
March 30th, 2010 at 6:41 am
Hey Rockstar,you gonna put me on your list ?!!
March 30th, 2010 at 6:41 am
I read an article that had links to all the reports done by the media when many thought the 49ers were in the running for McNabb. They made McNabb sound as if he walked on water and all articles loved the move.
Next I read articles by many that wrote some of the articles about the 40ers with regard to MCnabb coming to the Raiders. All of a sudden McNabb has one foot in the grave and not a very good QB and it is a mistake for the Raiders to bring him in.
I had to laugh as one of the writers wrote that Denver signing Orton had Johnny U coming to Denver and the signing of Brady Quinn was the deal of the decade. It would kill many of these clowns if the Raiders ended up with McNabb as the articles show.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:43 am
Ref:McNabb.Jerry sez it all.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:50 am
you gonna put me on your list ?!!
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of course Neil.
who do you want? pick 1 player. any player!
March 30th, 2010 at 6:54 am
Rockstar….
Suh will be gone by the time we pick so………..
Brian Price.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:56 am
…….or maybe Dan Williams.
No……no I’ll stick with Price.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:00 am
awesome. thanks Neil
I got you down now
March 30th, 2010 at 7:00 am
BRB. gotta run to the other building
March 30th, 2010 at 7:02 am
Can we draft JaMarshmallow again. I think he has been so steller as the official team weight gainer that he warrants another 1st rd pick AND another astonishingly large contract.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:03 am
What Up NATION?????
Rock, what up Brother? You need to start a new list Bro, the list of those who want mcnabb, and those tha dont. I will start by saying vote NO on mcnabb.
we get him for 1 year, if we franchise him thats 20 million….
We need to draft Dan Lefevour in the 4th. He is the ONE.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:03 am
Morning Neilb,
No problem…haha! Just for awhile I thought that I’d be the only one here…without 4eva having access and Dirt Lot disappearing (has anyone heard from him btw?)…its hard to start covo’s with myself LOL…
But I see 408 is back regularly…so….
Sad though, talking to myself in here for awhile is still better than jumping in the PM group!!!!
With that siad…educate me since I have been out of the college ranks…who is Brian Price?
March 30th, 2010 at 7:04 am
bcz24, with Mr. Davis calling the shots, he may be able to get that one done for you….
March 30th, 2010 at 7:05 am
PM group has a lot of guys that have been arguing at each other for years. Goofy political views, the whole nine yards….It gets old real fast….
March 30th, 2010 at 7:06 am
You know what? I’ll say Troy Smith at this time will probably be a better option than McNabb!!! Yeah, Donovan brings vet leadership, but…remember Jeff Garcia? Funny, last year during pre-season, his dad and his aunts and uncles tailgated right next to us. All of them had a Raider “Jeff Garcia” shirts and hats on…
March 30th, 2010 at 7:06 am
Vote NO on mcnabb….
March 30th, 2010 at 7:08 am
I like smith also for a 5, do that all day. He was the starter until he got sick flacco stepped in.
If we dont take smith we need to draft Dan Lefevour in the 4th. He has “IT”….
March 30th, 2010 at 7:08 am
Dont vote NO on McNabb!!!! We need to make as much noise as we can to bring him in… then Al will never want him!
March 30th, 2010 at 7:09 am
If someone can get Kiffin to say HE would bring McNabb in that would be stellar.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:10 am
Morning Hwnrdr…
I know what you mean about 4eva! I used to scroll down until I saw his name saying good morning nation.
Brian Price is a DT from ucla.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:12 am
Why wouldn’t you want an old,expensive and worn-out player at the Raiders ?
March 30th, 2010 at 7:18 am
Yeah about the PM crew… when I see them start posting I officially log of for the day… it turns to drivel sooo fast. Those guys are so bad they will actually flame you out for AGREEING with them. I just see them and know that no further useful information/meaningful insight will be showing up and I pack it in.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:19 am
Morning Nation!
I say we do the McNabb deal. With what we save over the next 2 years by cutting JaLoser, Donovan makes sense. A HUGE(not weight wise) upgrade at QB, not having to pay but $3 mil to cut Russell vs $9 mil+ if we keep JaLoser. We can franchise McNabb next year and we become playoff contenders this year. Thought about this for days and finally have come to the conclusion, Go For It!
March 30th, 2010 at 7:26 am
Can Price play NT? I don’t know…just toying around the idea. Rockstar said it a while back now…we need a NASTY NT!!!
March 30th, 2010 at 7:26 am
Exla….
That’s about the only way it would make any sense for me.However,I’d still keep the pick,draft on O-lineman and go with Grad.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:29 am
JaLoser showed his lack of dedication to all last year. Give him his million per 100 lbs and cut his sorry ass!
March 30th, 2010 at 7:31 am
Motion Russell out and have him line up as an extra tackle or TE. Direct snap it to Bush or DMAC, and start the play from there.
I always wished the Raiders would have done that with Marcus when Marc Wilson was QB.
At least with Russell, the defense would have to run around him at TE or tackle.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:31 am
2009 Stats for McNabb
14 Games
QB Rating 92.9 (When is the last time a Raiders QB finished the season with a 90 or above QB rating?)
Completion % 60.3
Yards 3553 (HE MISSED 2 GAMES AND WAS LESS THAN 500 YARDS FROM A 4,000 YARD SEASON!)
22 TD 10 INT
I would take this over any QB on the roster right now.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:32 am
Hwnrdr…
Not sure.I don’t watch any college games,this time of year I try to read as many mock drafts and “expert opinions” as I can.
From what I’ve read about Price the only thing against him seems to be his height ( 6ft 2″ ).
A good player in the middle of the line,good team mate and a leader in the locker room and on the field.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:34 am
Some of you NO to McNabb cats are making some good points, but I’d ask you to consider this.
Jamarcus Russell is NOT going to make 9 million dollars as a backup QB. If he doesn’t win the starting job, he will restructure of be cut. I think he and his agent are smart enough to restructure regardless of what Russell said before.
If the deal include’s Nnamdi’s outrageous contract, then the $ is a wash. A Corner for a QB is a no brainer, right?
I don’t know about that 2nd rd pick though. I’d be trying to push Nnamdi, Morrison, and a 3rd rd pick.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:34 am
Raider75,
Not bad for a declining QB. At that rate, it would be 4 or 5 yrs until he declined to JaLosers ratings.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:36 am
Or if we straight up trade McNabb for our #2 then we need to trade down and take Mt Cody. I don’t think a guy like Ciron Black is going to last until round 3. We would need a lot of luck on our side.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:37 am
It does not make sense to restructure JaLosers contract any longer as he is not capable of being a WINNING NFL QB, and his $’s would not count as a cap hit this year.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:39 am
Off for some dinner.
Have a great Tuesday everyone.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:39 am
Desean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin are MUCH better receivers than Murphy or DHB
March 30th, 2010 at 7:40 am
There is NO WAY we can franchise McNabb next year. That would be a deal breaker for me. 20 million? I don’t think so. A 2-3 yr extension needs to be agreed upon BEFORE the trade is made.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:44 am
I said the same thing about Seymour but the reality is you have to pay the piper. Applying the $6 mil+ saved by cutting JaLoser brings his real number down to an acceptable figure.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:44 am
Dez Bryant ran a 4.3 last week …
LMFAO!
McNabb to Dez ?????
March 30th, 2010 at 7:46 am
I want to win NOW! I don’t want to be dealing with this again nextyear. Deal will be done or not by May 5th, when the “G” money has to be paid by the Eagles to McNabb. Get him in here for OTA’s.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:47 am
Seymour is not making 20 million.
McNabb is not worth 20 million.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:49 am
RRS, if Dez Bryant runs a 4.3 at his pro day tomorrow, I’m changing my pick from Davis to him!
Heck, if he runs a 4.4 I’m changing it.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:52 am
Dez Bryant, Chaz, and Murphy would be just the career break that a guy like Bruce Gradkowski would need. Gradkowski would be a pro bowler with those 3 plus Bush and DMAC out of the backfield.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:00 am
LOL @ Jhill.
fair enough. Is Dez Bryant actually going to run the 40 at his Pro Day tomorrow?
his stock is pretty high right now. He’s a Top 10-15 pick. If he shows a poor 40 time and gets hurt, his stock drops big time. Many thought Crabtree was the best player in last years draft though and he ended up 10th overall … I guess you never know!
March 30th, 2010 at 8:00 am
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March 30th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
To Nnamdi21
I find your political posts towards the beginning of this conversation entertaining. You claim to be neither Repub nor Dem, however you appear to strongly oppose all republican ideas. In post 180 when you were responding to HL you never seemed to actually give any counter arguments about how the democratic party are not doing those things, instead just attacked his opinion and comments.
To the rest of the posters, I have to say i’ve never seen so much tension between similar fans. I seriously think that hardly anyone here would be willing to talk like they do on a forum face to face with another individual.
Lastly, With all the mock drafts going on, is nobody considering drafting Ciron Black – LSU. He a OT who scouts believe would make a good OG, he’s a physical blocker who’s only downfall at OT was his feet.
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