Raiders live chat with Jerry McDonald today at noon
By Jon Becker
Tuesday, March 30th, 2010 at 9:05 am in Live chats, Oakland Raiders.
Join our Raiders live chat today at noon PST and get Jerry McDonald’s views on the Donovan McNabb trade rumors as well as any other Raiders questions.
This chat sponsored by McDonald’s:
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March 30th, 2010 at 9:07 am
408Raider
I don’t think trading our first round pick for a second this year and a first next year is a very good deal AT ALL!
I would rather have a player now, and deal with the 2011 draft when it gets here. This team needs talent NOW, not later.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:10 am
You guys do know that Andy Ried’s quote on the matter was “teams are ENTERTAINING us with offers for McNabb”.
Ried is LAUGHING at the offers he’s getting for McNabb.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:11 am
Ried is LAUGHING at the offers he’s getting for McNabb.
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PROVE IT!
hahaha
March 30th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Dakota
Im not thrilled with the deal as much as the Raiders being open to the possibility of trading down.
Al will fugg up the 8 pick anyway so whats the big deal?
March 30th, 2010 at 9:15 am
How about this scenario?
Trade Huff and a late rounder for McNabb. Then draft Berry.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Raiders’ first pick in demand
As the Raiders reportedly look to trade for another veteran Pro Bowler, they are getting every opportunity to get back the premium pick they traded away in a similar deal last year.
An unnamed team has offered the Raiders a second-round pick this year and a first-round pick next year in exchange for the Raiders’ No. 8 overall pick. (Well, the team has a name, but our league source wouldn’t share).
That deal would allow the Raiders to get back in the 2011 first round after giving their pick to the Patriots in the Richard Seymour deal. (Lockout or not, there will be a draft next year, reportedly).
At least one other team has offered to swap spots with the Raiders. Perhaps this is evidence that the 2010 class is as good as advertised. People actually want back in the top-10 again.
So why haven’t the Raiders bit?
The Raiders simply do not have a history of trading down from its first-round perch. They’ll trade the spot away for a star player (Seymour, Randy Moss) but Raiders owner Al Davis doesn’t have a track record of moving down the order for another pick.
So what does this have to do with Donovan McNabb?
According to reports, the Eagles would want a top-42 pick for McNabb. The Raiders currently pick 39th in the second round. Let’s assume that’s what it would take.
If the Raiders were to accept the aforementioned draft trade, here’s what it could mean: they could give Philly their No. 39 pick, then use the other team’s second-round pick in April. And, instead of picking No. 8 overall in this draft, they’d have a first-round pick in next year’s draft. Nothing lost, just deferred.
Whatever the case with McNabb, if the Raiders want to trade their way back into the 2011 first round, they have been given at least one opportunity to do so.
** All this reminded me of the last time Davis spoke, after the Seymour trade. A reporter started to ask his thoughts of a rookie scale in 2011 even though he wouldn’t have a pick in the class, when Davis got a bit agitated.
“Don’t say we won’t pick in 2011. You’re wrong, you’re wrong, didn’t the 49ers take the first with Staley and the next year didn’t they do it again this year? So don’t make statements.”
** He said something else that could apply to these “alleged” talks with the Eagles. By giving up a first-round pick for a player in the last year of his contract, Davis suggested he was willing to do whatever it takes to get the player he wants.
“Sometimes you’ve got to overpay to get what you want,” Davis said in September. “But I didn’t overpay. I don’t think that’s overpaying at all. Sometimes you have to, you don’t always win the battle, the idea is to get the player.”
So, if McNabb is the player he wants to get, he will get him soon enough.
** One more thing: wonder why the Raiders haven’t leaked a word on this McNabb story?
“It’s usually a conversation with me on any trade,” Davis said in September. ‘Nuf said.
Posted By: David White
March 30th, 2010 at 9:16 am
Jhill
What is Corkran supposed to do? He reports what he is told to report, whether it is accurate or not and maybe he is not privy to the info that I have. Unlike Corkran, I don’t have to answer to anyone. I am not a journalist that has just been fed the company line.
I am just passing on info that has been passed onto me. The info I get from my friend has been reliable in the past although not always right on the money. For instance I kept hearing that a new HC was coming in to replace Cable and that just turned out to be the Hue Jackson hiring.
I am not saying McNabb is a solid deal that is going to happen for sure, what I am saying is that the Raiders are STILL VERY MUCH IN PLAY for McNabb’s services.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:16 am
Get McNabb here ASAP!!!!
March 30th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Reid is a great OC, but he is not a great HC IMHO. He is too Pass Happy, and doesn’t run often which makes them one dimensional.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Why would the Eagles want to get rid of a Pro Bowl QB for Vick or Kolb? That makes no sense. This is all a posturing since McNabb’s cotract is up.
NO WAY they go with Vick over McNabb, who is also on a 1 year deal. And do you really think Kolb is ready?
HIGHLY unlikely McNabb is even on the block.
I’m sure the Raiders will take him if the Eagles are dumb enough to give him away.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:18 am
DMAC Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:15 am
How about this scenario?
Trade Huff and a late rounder for McNabb. Then draft Berry.
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No thanks. Huff is starting to ball….And Berry should be a CB in the NFL.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:18 am
if we trade our 8th overall for a 2nd rounder this year and a 1st next year … then use one of those 2nd rounders for Donovan McNabb, then the run defense will have to wait yet another year
get ready to re-sign Gerard Warren and have another Morrison/Brown camp battle for the MLB job.
yippee!
March 30th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Jhill
The Eagles brass are very high on Kolb, with Reid being the least enthused.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Raider O Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Reid is a great OC, but he is not a great HC IMHO. He is too Pass Happy, and doesn’t run often which makes them one dimensional.
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So doesnt that make him a bad OC???……..
March 30th, 2010 at 9:20 am
RaiderDogg,
thank you as always for the interesting input here.
long in tooth and lost a step and a half McNabb is an upgrade, but with Cable’s inability to evaluate O-line talent, the diabled list, Donovan’s place, would seem a foregone conclusion.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:21 am
That is a ridiculous offer White posted. No pick at all in rd 1 this year?
Try this year’s #1 AND next year’s #1 for 8.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:21 am
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March 30th, 2010 at 9:21 am
I don’t like that trade!!
Trade our 8yh for a 2nd this year, and a 1st next year!!?? I hope not!! That’s a dumb trade!
March 30th, 2010 at 9:22 am
HIGHLY unlikely McNabb is even on the block.
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then it’s a huge slap in the face for their franchise QB since ‘99
either way, it’s not good for the team.
they drafted Kevin Kolb to be their QB of the future and he’s in the last year of his contract. I’m sure they probably want to see what they have in him.
the city of Philly never really embraced or appreciated McNabb anyways. They are getting younger. Tra Thomas, Jon Runyan gone last year. McNabb & Westbrook this year. Trotter, Dawkins, Darren Howard on defense.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:23 am
M
Thanks for the kind words.
I am getting the impression that Cable has a lot less input regarding personnel than last year.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:25 am
DD,
lol
Not really becuase you can use the short pass to HBs like we did with C Garner (if you remember) as a run, but they get exposed when they play a good & fast defense.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Dogg,
You know I’m not questioning you per se. I know you’re a solid cat man.
Just saying … DAMN it’s a lot of stuff out there.
I think I’m more disappointed in Corkran is what I’m saying. It amazes me that folks in here can give us stuff the guys with access to the team can’t.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:27 am
jhill Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:10 am
You guys do know that Andy Ried’s quote on the matter was “teams are ENTERTAINING us with offers for McNabb”.
Ried is LAUGHING at the offers he’s getting for McNabb.
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I can’t imagine a franchise, other than maybe the Raiders, allowing these wild rumors to persist if there isn’t any truth behind it.
McNabb is old and expensive and the Eagles saw a glimpse of their future when Kolb performed well…this is not a surprise. Vick has nothing to do with this.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:28 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:18 am
if we trade our 8th overall for a 2nd rounder this year and a 1st next year … then use one of those 2nd rounders for Donovan McNabb, then the run defense will have to wait yet another year
get ready to re-sign Gerard Warren and have another Morrison/Brown camp battle for the MLB job.
yippee!
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Spikes could be there in the second round, or get Chaney in the third. Cam Thomas would also help.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Two Raiders reporters tell the Associated Press that the team “hasn’t even spoken” to the Eagles about Donovan McNabb.
NFL Network, Yahoo, and ESPN all say Oakland is the front-runner to land McNabb. ESPN’s Adam Schefter noted Monday that Al Davis and McNabb are both Syracuse alumni, and McNabb is a distant cousin of new Raiders play-caller Hue Jackson. The Raiders employees, however, “scoffed” at the reports to the AP, and claimed Nnamdi Asomugha isn’t available for trade.
Source: Associated Press
March 30th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Get McNabb here and keep Russell. Let him learn!!!
March 30th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Sad but were gonna end up losing Aso…or paying him 20 million for one year…
March 30th, 2010 at 9:31 am
If Hue Jack can turn the Raider O (whichever personage is at QB) into an inspired and efficient unit then his likeness will be honoured with statues and murals throughout the globe.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:32 am
DD,
He knows offense, but he couldn’t win a SB with that team for 2 reasons:
1- they didn’t get McNabb a great WR.
2- they were not great @ running.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:34 am
jhill Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Dogg,
You know I’m not questioning you per se. I know you’re a solid cat man.
Just saying … DAMN it’s a lot of stuff out there.
I think I’m more disappointed in Corkran is what I’m saying. It amazes me that folks in here can give us stuff the guys with access to the team can’t.”
Jhill
No worries bro, I should throw out a disclaimer with all of my postulations. As far as Corkran, and other so called journalists, they pretty much have their hands tied as far as being fed inside info from the team.
It’s all a bunch of posturing and seemingly subterfuge, especially when dealing with the Raiders.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Spikes could be there in the second round, or get Chaney in the third. Cam Thomas would also help.
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true BSJ, but if this was the gameplan, would we just let McNabb play behind Satele, Carlisle & Barnes?
if we use our 2nd & 3rd rounders on the defense, we have nobody to protect McNabb.
wait a second. Cable is returning as HC, right? He has the ability to coach up lesser talent in his zbs. Satele, Carlisle & Barnes should do fine. carry on
March 30th, 2010 at 9:35 am
Among all the rumors can’t you just hear a “F^ck! F*ck! F6ck!” coming from the residence of the Polish Popgun?
March 30th, 2010 at 9:36 am
Spikes could be there in the second round, or get Chaney in the third. Cam Thomas would also help.
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Spikes ran a 5.01 40 at his pro day. Hes definitely not MLB in a 4-3 material. Let alone on an Al Davis team.. He is a thumper tho..
March 30th, 2010 at 9:37 am
true BSJ, but if this was the gameplan, would we just let McNabb play behind Satele, Carlisle & Barnes?
if we use our 2nd & 3rd rounders on the defense, we have nobody to protect McNabb.
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There are other ways to add picks/players through trades. DMAC should fetch something useful.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:37 am
DMAC Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Two Raiders reporters tell the Associated Press that the team “hasn’t even spoken” to the Eagles about Donovan McNabb.
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Must mean two Raiders employees…and what employees other than Al Davis, Herrera, Taylor and maybe Trask would even know what conversations had or had not taken place?
March 30th, 2010 at 9:39 am
Greg Beikert ran a 9.59 40 (same as Bolt for the 100 meters) and he was chosen.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:40 am
trade JaMarcus Russell & Nnamdi Asomugha to the Vikings for Kevin Williams and thier 1st rounder.
that way we unload 2 huge contracts.
Al Davis can draft Trent Williams at #8 and Kyle Wilson with the Vikings 1st rounder …
run defense solved with Kevin Williams
March 30th, 2010 at 9:40 am
M Lonetree Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:39 am
Greg Beikert ran a 9.59 40 (same as Bolt for the 100 meters) and he was chosen.
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lol
March 30th, 2010 at 9:40 am
Trade DMC for McNabb, and draft J Best in the 2nd.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:42 am
BoSJack,
by useful, with regards to a trade involving McF, do you mean another football player or something utilitarian like a weed whacker?
March 30th, 2010 at 9:46 am
I think we can Draft Spikes in the 3rd.
-Trade DMC for McNabb.
Draft:
1- trade up for SUH (rocket science)
2- HB J Best: he has Raider Speed, and he wants to be a Raider.
3- ILB Spikes: who cares about his 40?! He is a football player and he can HIT!
4- OT Sam Young: he can compete to play RT.
5- CB: Walter Thurmond or Stoutamire
5- OL: Ciron Black
March 30th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Trade DMC for some Weed!
March 30th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Sean Canfield: Raiders work out Oregon State QB Canfield.
Rotoworld.com
According to the National Football Post, the Oakland Raiders held a private workout for Oregon State QB Sean Canfield this week
March 30th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Raider O: no friggin way Sam Young is taken before Ciron Black. sorry bro
sign WR Muhsin Muhammad!
keep Raider O as a fan at least 1 more year!
March 30th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Trade McFadden for McNabb?
Jezuz cripes…the Eagles already have two RBs in McCoy and Bell.
Think before you speak!
March 30th, 2010 at 9:52 am
does Sean Canfield have a cannon?
Dan LeFevour displayed a noodle arm at his Pro Day. I don’t think he’ll be considered.
Jimmy Clausen has Culpepper hands …
March 30th, 2010 at 9:53 am
I saw a few Oregon St games. The kid can definetly throw it.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:54 am
M,
Utilitarian! I like that, but I like Objectivism more.
Be all that you can Be! lol
March 30th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Raiders interested in Volunteers’ Jonathan Crompton.
http://www.sbreport.net/raider_news/008/3156.html
March 30th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Canfield finished his senior season in 2009 with completing 303 of 446 pass attempts for 3,271 yards, 21 touchdowns, and seven interceptions as the Beavers ended the season with an 8-5 record.
6′4″ 214 lbs originally from La Jolla.
went to High School in Carlsbad …
March 30th, 2010 at 9:55 am
M Lonetree Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:42 am
BoSJack,
by useful, with regards to a trade involving McF, do you mean another football player or something utilitarian like a weed whacker?
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I embrace the broadest possible connotation of the word useful. Perhaps some new tennis balls to put on the legs of Al Davis’ walker? To get a weed whacker, I expect Al would have to sweeten. It IS springtime…
March 30th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Re-sign G Warren
1st pick Iupati
2nd pick Mcnabb
or
1st pick D Williams
2nd pick Mcnabb
3rd pick OL
4th pick OL
5th pick OL
March 30th, 2010 at 9:55 am
anybody hear the sound of NFL teams pounding on Justin Fargas’ front door?
March 30th, 2010 at 9:56 am
Dakota Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Trade McFadden for McNabb?
Jezuz cripes…the Eagles already have two RBs in McCoy and Bell.
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Your point? DMAC is not a RB. Think before you disagree!
March 30th, 2010 at 9:57 am
M
I am hearing that Fargas may be coming back…
March 30th, 2010 at 9:57 am
3- ILB Spikes: who cares about his 40?! He is a football player and he can HIT!
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But you at least need a MLB in a 4-3 to be able to outrun a lineman.. I of course think we need a MLB but i don’t think we should take one whos that slow in the 2nd round. Fix the DL and then it won’t matter who plays MLB.. Remember Nap Harris was the MLB on the Vikings for a while and we know he didn’t make that team good against the run. We need a williams wall..
March 30th, 2010 at 9:57 am
TRADE FOR MCNABB ASAP!
It will be interesting to see how Dez Bryant does at his workout today!
March 30th, 2010 at 9:57 am
Raiders interested in Volunteers’ Jonathan Crompton
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Lane Kiffin’s boy?
LOL!
that would be funny if Al Davis replaced JaMarcus Russell (the guy Kiffin didn’t want) with Kiffin’s starting QB last year …
March 30th, 2010 at 9:57 am
Dakota,
“think before you speak” sounds like a true Rep telling people their ideas are not good enough, but too bad he can’t be nice about it.
Damn you Rep Monkeys!
March 30th, 2010 at 9:58 am
RaiderDogg,
I would not be surprised at all to see Fargas resurface in Oaktown.
March 30th, 2010 at 10:00 am
M
If Fargas does come back, it will be on the cheap cheap.
March 30th, 2010 at 10:00 am
trade Mike Bush to the Steelers for Dennis Dixon!
March 30th, 2010 at 10:00 am
DMAC played great defense (for our opponents) this last season. If you count all the unassisted tackles he made (of himself) and his unmatched ability to strip the ball (from himself), he is a Pro Bowl LB!
March 30th, 2010 at 10:01 am
RR,
Maybe next year we can get an extension for my Fanhood! lol
March 30th, 2010 at 10:04 am
Maybe next year we can get an extension for my Fanhood!
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Raider O: we’ll get WR Moose to please you this year, so you won’t be a distraction in the locker room.
next year you’ll be tagged!
March 30th, 2010 at 10:05 am
BoSJack,
exactly! everything just requires the proper perspective in order to appreciate the excellence around us in the world!
McF, great self-defender!
(That, or you wager heavily on the spread and then throw in your own fix to supplement your game wages.)
March 30th, 2010 at 10:06 am
The Raiders and Vikings are “discussing the availability” of Sage Rosenfels, according to Mike Lombardi of the National Football Post.
Source: National Football Post
March 30th, 2010 at 10:07 am
On a completely unrelated note:
Did anyone see E40 on Chronicle Live with Greg Papa last night? That was comedy, Papa trying to convince 40 to buy the Warriors. 40 said he could put something on the $400 mill asking price…
March 30th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Jimmy Clausens hands are 9 inches
Colt McCoys are 9 3/8ths
Bradfords are 9 1/2
Tebow’s are 10 and 1/8
So Rockstar, are you saying Tebow should go before McCoy, Clausen and Bradford because he has the biggest hands?
Russell has 9 1/2 inch hands and fumbles all fukin day.
Clausen lost 8 fumbles in 35 games in college.
March 30th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Trade DMAC for the Warriors!
March 30th, 2010 at 10:12 am
How big are DMAC’s hands?
Wait…he has hands right?
March 30th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Jimmy Clausens hands are 9 inches
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Dakota: the scouts made a big deal about it at the combine
WHY???
March 30th, 2010 at 10:13 am
BSJ: McFadden had a hands transplant this offseason
no worries
Like Cable says, if he’s healthy he’ll be the every down back
March 30th, 2010 at 10:14 am
A Big Prez needs a Big House:
http://www.michigandaily.com/content/how-u-landed-obama-commencement
March 30th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Like Cable says, if he’s healthy he’ll be the every down back.
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Translation: If he keeps fumbling, I will personally put the kid on IR.
March 30th, 2010 at 10:19 am
BSJ: Michigan couldn’t get Tyrone Wheatley?
March 30th, 2010 at 10:20 am
Translation: If he keeps fumbling, I will personally put the kid on IR.
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is that what Al Davis meant by “dominate the locker room?”
March 30th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Wheatley was their second choice. Greg Skrepenak third.
March 30th, 2010 at 10:23 am
For all you gladiator geeks:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/30/regensburg-gladiator-majo_n_518412.html
March 30th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Ok, then it’s settled!
Draft Dez Bryant at 8.
Draft Lamar Houston in Rd 2
Draft that MLB that we were interested in last week in rd 3.
Trade for a RT!
March 30th, 2010 at 10:27 am
BoSJack,
but think of the tales DMc will be able to tell his children.
after his days as a football are over, he will be able to take his children to umpteen college and professional football venues around the country on summer vacation when the stadiums are empty and he will be able to point out to his kids all of the different places he put the ball on the ground.
and when his children ask “Why Daddy?”, he will be able to look them in the eye and reply “Because it was what I was good at.”
March 30th, 2010 at 10:28 am
I think Dez is going to be a hella of player, but we still need O’line. Mcnabb, Grads, Russell won’t be successful w/ out an upgrade of the O’line.
March 30th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Trade for a RT!
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what player?
and what player(s) or pick(s) would we give up in exchange ???
March 30th, 2010 at 10:28 am
# Raider75 Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Mayock will be in Lufkin, TX today for Dez Bryant’s private workout at Lufkin High School. Should be hearing some things about the WR later today.
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In addition to 30 NFL scouts others reportedly in attendance will be:
Lawrence Phillips, Maurice Clarett, Pacman Jones, Plaxico, and the cat that wacked Biggie.
March 30th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Adam_Schefter Initial reports on Dez Bryant’s 40-yard dash are not encouraging. One scout in attendance texted that Bryant clocked an unconfirmed 4.57.
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So much for Dez Bryant at 8, lol!
March 30th, 2010 at 10:30 am
LOL @ M! He definately is good.
March 30th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Time for my midday repast!
March 30th, 2010 at 10:31 am
BSJ: you know Chris Morris is just as qualified as the guy they have scheduled to give a speech at Michigan next month …
March 30th, 2010 at 10:31 am
BSJ = midday rapist ?
March 30th, 2010 at 10:33 am
sorry. I read that wrong!
I used to get in trouble during Science class for misspelling the word “organism” too …
March 30th, 2010 at 10:48 am
We better not be taking Bryant at #8. We are not as low as the Lions.
March 30th, 2010 at 10:50 am
# jhill Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Adam_Schefter Initial reports on Dez Bryant’s 40-yard dash are not encouraging. One scout in attendance texted that Bryant clocked an unconfirmed 4.57.
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So much for Dez Bryant at 8, lol!
………..
Davone Bess had a 4.72 last year
He also had 76 catches for 800 yards last year on a run-happy Dolphins team with no QB.
But hey, those 40 times mean everything… At least to Al Davis.
March 30th, 2010 at 10:50 am
# jhill Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Adam_Schefter Initial reports on Dez Bryant’s 40-yard dash are not encouraging. One scout in attendance texted that Bryant clocked an unconfirmed 4.57.
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So much for Dez Bryant at 8, lol!
^^^^^^^^^^
Yeah well Larry Fitz ran in the 4.5’s and look how great he is!
Plus isn’t DHB supposed to be the “speed” WR for the Raiders anyway??
If Dez did run a 4.57, then Dez probably let up because he wants to get drafted by a good team and not by a team in the top 8. LOL
March 30th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Lmao RR.
March 30th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Updating a previous item, Oklahoma State’s Dez Bryant posted forty times of 4.52 and 4.68 at Tuesday’s private workout in his hometown of Lufkin, Texas.
Bryant ran a third time of 4.52 due to the discrepancy between the first two times. He also dropped some passes early in drills before settling down and “getting into the flow.” Though Bryant’s game tape remains elite, the forty times are mediocre and may do nothing to stem the tide of his slipping draft stock. He remains likely to be the first receiver off the board, however.
Source: NFL.com
March 30th, 2010 at 10:56 am
We weren’t taking Bryant anyway. This affects Dungver more than it does us. Dez Bryant running a 4.5-4.6 forty just made Brandon Marshall millions. Funny how that works.
March 30th, 2010 at 10:59 am
# Raider75 Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:50 am
# jhill Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Adam_Schefter Initial reports on Dez Bryant’s 40-yard dash are not encouraging. One scout in attendance texted that Bryant clocked an unconfirmed 4.57.
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So much for Dez Bryant at 8, lol!
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Davone Bess had a 4.72 last year
He also had 76 catches for 800 yards last year on a run-happy Dolphins team with no QB.
But hey, those 40 times mean everything… At least to Al Davis.
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Remember tho, that Bess is a slot receiver and Ginn Jr is the guy with some pretty good speed. We already have slot guys and guys with so so speed.
March 30th, 2010 at 11:00 am
if the Eagles were trying to get Nnamdi Asomugha in a trade with Oakland for Donovan McNabb, then why did they re-sign Ellis Hobbs today ???
March 30th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Danny Amendola – 1618 Kick return yards last season. Ave. 34 yards per return for the Rams.
4.65 40
Arman Shields – NO STATS WHATS-SO-EVER
4.38 40
LOL!
March 30th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Sey Bush is here & Ricky isn’t.
I take back what I said yesterday …
see? no RESEARCH required
March 30th, 2010 at 11:03 am
trade the walrus for Danny Amendola!
March 30th, 2010 at 11:04 am
HairyBush Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:51 am
If the Raiders did the deal where they gave up there 1st round pick this year in exchange for a 2nd rounder and a 1st in 2011, it would make total sense. It would make it easier to have more money to sign Seymour and Mcnabb, as opposed to giving tons of $$ to the #8 pick. Hopefully by 2011 there will be a rookie salary cap and that will save us even more money.
March 30th, 2010 at 11:05 am
If we are going with a reciever in the draft, why not take a look at Eric Decker. Could possibly go in the 7th round and be a sleeper.
March 30th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Eric Decker can’t be worse than Arman Shields!
March 30th, 2010 at 11:08 am
I’m not a proponent of drafting Dez Bryant.
I just think he will be good despite his “low” 40 times.
March 30th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Seyi Ajirotutu from Fresno St could be a sleeper also.
Like his game a lot.
March 30th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Yeah, but we all know Al isn’t taking a WR at 8 who ran a 4.5 or higher.
Probably for the better though.
Now we can get back to focusing on our draft picks instead of the McNabb and Bryant fantasies.
Rd 1 – Best impact lineman on the board D or O
Rd 2 – Toby Gerhardt
Rd 3 – Best lineman on the board O or D
March 30th, 2010 at 11:10 am
where is everybody?
P Diddy concert?
March 30th, 2010 at 11:11 am
Rd 2 – Toby Gerhardt
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who is getting traded?
McFadden or Bush?
March 30th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Tim Brown is going to be a sleeper at WR.
March 30th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Been outside cutting rose bushes and palm trees.
Had to fire the gardner to save $1500 a year.
Plus the 4 year old is on spring break.
No time for Diddy.
March 30th, 2010 at 11:13 am
SAN DIEGO (AP) The San Diego Chargers have signed cornerback Nathan Vasher to a two-year contract.
Vasher played the past six seasons with the Chicago Bears. He played for three seasons under Ron Rivera, now the Chargers’ defensive coordinator.
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how many interceptions will he have via JaBlimp this season?
I wish Vegas was here to give us the over/under!
March 30th, 2010 at 11:13 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Sey Bush is here & Ricky isn’t.
I take back what I said yesterday …
see? no RESEARCH required
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There are a couple posters in here that no one should encourage and we should all completely ignore. Wack-o-sheeit tops the list.
March 30th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Cable doesn’t like Bush. Refuses to play him.
March 30th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Did Papa ask E40 what the drought season was?
March 30th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Some rival NFL executives already consider new Eagles GM Howie Roseman a “shakedown artist” due to the exorbitant original asking prices on his quarterbacks, according to Yahoo Sports’ Michael Silver.
Roseman never seemed likely to deal Kevin Kolb, but the second-round asking price for Michael Vick and the “first-round plus extras” for Donovan McNabb were ludicrous from the outset. The Eagles’ first-time GM now appears desperate to move McNabb to any team that will help him save face, even if it means sending the long-time franchise icon to football’s version of Siberia with Al Davis. To the surprise of no one, McNabb was a no-show for start of voluntary workouts on Monday.
Source: Yahoo Sports
LMAO-sometimes it’s embarrising to be a Raiders fan. “football’s version of siberia”
March 30th, 2010 at 11:18 am
Jhill: 4 year old is on spring break?
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trade JaWalrus for a See ‘n Say!
March 30th, 2010 at 11:22 am
McNabb was a no-show for start of voluntary workouts on Monday.
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wasn’t he sending Andy Reid text messages earlier this week begging to keep his job?
something must have changed …
March 30th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Gaither could be available for less than first round pick
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 29, 2010 8:53 PM ET
Time is running out for teams to sign restricted free agent Ravens tackle Jared Gaither to an offer sheet, but he may be available for less than his first round tender.
NFL Network’s Jason La Canfora, citing two Ravens sources, said Monday an offer of a “high second round” pick would get a team’s foot in the door.
La Canfora suggests the Redskins as a possibility. If Washington didn’t draft a tackle in the first round, they could potentially send their second round pick for Gaither.
There would be no April 15 deadline to sign Gaither to an offer sheet because it would be a straight trade.
By all accounts, Gaither played like a quality starting left tackle last year. That’s why it’s surprising Baltimore seems so open to moving him.
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There’s your RT Rockstar!
March 30th, 2010 at 11:23 am
I’m guessing he just doesn’t want to face the press until this dies down or he actually is traded.
March 30th, 2010 at 11:25 am
how well can LT Jared Gaither play RT?
or if we trade for him and keep him as LT, how well can Mario Henderson or Khalif Barnes play RT?
risky business imo
March 30th, 2010 at 11:26 am
A worthwhile risk IMO
March 30th, 2010 at 11:27 am
We don’t exactly have a stellar cast to work with
March 30th, 2010 at 11:28 am
We don’t exactly have a stellar cast to work with
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no kidding!
49 sacks allowed last year?
*puke*
March 30th, 2010 at 11:28 am
I thought his tender was a first round pick???
March 30th, 2010 at 11:29 am
It is, but it sounds like they are willing to negotiate
March 30th, 2010 at 11:30 am
I wouldn’t hesitate for a 2nd rounder.
March 30th, 2010 at 11:36 am
I would do it to (assuming we don’t deal 2nd rounder to eagles)
March 30th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Gaither is young and has proven that he can play the LT position. Why are the Ravens shopping this guy?
March 30th, 2010 at 11:44 am
Trade DMC for McNabb, a 2nd for Gaither, and trade a 3rd & 5th get another 2nd to draft Best.
I almost Forgot, trade up for SUH too.
Trade & Legalize it!!
March 30th, 2010 at 11:46 am
jhill Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Yeah, but we all know Al isn’t taking a WR at 8 who ran a 4.5 or higher.
Probably for the better though.
Now we can get back to focusing on our draft picks instead of the McNabb and Bryant fantasies.
Rd 1 – Best impact lineman on the board D or O
Rd 2 – Toby Gerhardt
Rd 3 – Best lineman on the board O or D
^^^^^^^^
I wouldn’t mind that at all.
Gerhardt would make Bush or DMC tradeable potentially.
Gerhardt would bring POWER football back to the running game here in Oakland.
March 30th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Why I keep thinking David White makes up rumors?
He reminds me of that reporter who made up news stories on the TV show The Wire during the last season of the show! haha
Anyhow, I hope teams are inquiring about the Raiders #8 pick, by supposedly offering switching 1st Round positions this year AND a 2nd Rounder this year and next years 1st Rounder…..depending on where the position of this team is in draft, that deal sounds like a no brainer for the Raiders!
March 30th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Here’s what the o’line could possibly look like……
LT- Gaither (aquired from our 2nd)
LG- Gallery
C- Tennant (darfted 3rd round)
RG- Barnes
RT- Henderson
March 30th, 2010 at 11:52 am
# DMAC Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Gaither is young and has proven that he can play the LT position. Why are the Ravens shopping this guy?
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Because Gaither’s commitment to football makes Jamarcus look like a workaholic.
March 30th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Is that so?
March 30th, 2010 at 11:54 am
It was reported up here in western New York that Buffalo offered Baltimore their 2nd for Gaither
March 30th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Doesnt Michael Oher play LT… seems the ravens are trying to shop a proven commidity rather than pay him to be a back up
March 30th, 2010 at 11:57 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:31 am
BSJ: you know Chris Morris is just as qualified as the guy they have scheduled to give a speech at Michigan next month …
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???
Do your research Jimbob! Morris went to Michigan STATE!
March 30th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Oher is on the right side.
March 30th, 2010 at 11:58 am
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 11:52 am
# DMAC Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Gaither is young and has proven that he can play the LT position. Why are the Ravens shopping this guy?
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Because Gaither’s commitment to football makes Jamarcus look like a workaholic.
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Guys stop making fun of peoples lethargy addiction. Its a serious issue and its not something you should joke about.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Whatever the case might be…
I could care less if a player is lazy, as long as he performs well every Sunday.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
So Gaither or McNabb for the 2nd rd pick?
March 30th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Because Gaither’s commitment to football makes Jamarcus look like a workaholic.
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Is that right?
Maybe they fell Oher is better and could easily move to LT?
March 30th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
LT – Henderson
LG – Gallery
C – Satele
RG – Barnes
RT – Gaither
March 30th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Guess I should have watched The Blind Side… or even read the book. LOL
March 30th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
How about this.
Depending on the position of the draft of the team offering the Raiders their 2nd rounder this year and a 1st next year….the old man needs to make that deal ASAP!
Then he would have moved down maybe 10 spots in the 1st Round minimum hopefully, then have an extra 2nd Rounder to use as trade bait along with being able to offer T Howard or K Morrison or Nnandi in a deal for McNabb.
They can still get an O-Tacke like Charles Brown with that new middle 1st Round pick, and then can use the on of those 2nd rounders on a power back who can catch the ball out of the backfield and play some FB like Gerhardt, with one of those 2nd Rounders and if they don’t trade the other 2nd Rounder they can go DT with that other 2nd rounder and then go Center or MLB in the 3rd Round.
TRADING DOWN provides the Raiders more options and flexibility to fill holes and add important pieces to the team!
March 30th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
# bcz24 Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 11:54 am
It was reported up here in western New York that Buffalo offered Baltimore their 2nd for Gaither
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Buffalo is a team that needs LOTS of help so that would make sense.
It seems that the smart teams are stocking UP on picks in this draft. This is the best draft I have seen in the last 5 years maybe longer. Notice teams like Philly that are perennially in it, acquiring picks, and teams that can’t finds their asses (Buffalo, Oakland) dishing out their picks.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
A lot of this is going to hinge on what we can get, if anything, for Morrison and Howard.
Maybe one or both of those guys translate into a player (RT,NT,vet WR) or draft picks.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
# bcz24 Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Guess I should have watched The Blind Side… or even read the book. LOL
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Excellent book. If none of you guys have read it, read it. Except for wacky and mistabrOwn. Those guys need someone to read it TO them.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Oakland is dishing out their picks? Since when?
March 30th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Best trade idea I read so far was the NE deal.
Trade back to 22 and get NE’s 2 2nd rd picks.
Any version of that deal works wonders for us. Heck, throw in Morrison!
March 30th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Dez Bryant forgot his cleats
Posted by Mike Florio on March 30, 2010 3:01 PM ET
As it turns out, Oklahoma State receiver Dez Bryant showed up on time for his Pro Day workout.
His cleats, however, didn’t make the trip.
We’re told that Bryant forgot to bring his cleats, and that as a result he had to wear a pair of brand-new shoes, which had not properly been broken in.
As a result, Bryant was slipping, as NFLN’s Mike Mayock pointed out when discussing the workout on the air.
Per a league source, at least one team measured Bryant’s times in the 40-yard dash at 4.57 and 4.62 seconds, within the 4.52 to 4.68 range reported by NFL.com. He presumably would have run faster, but for the slipping.
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LMFAO!
March 30th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Dakota Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:07 am
408Raider
I don’t think trading our first round pick for a second this year and a first next year is a very good deal AT ALL!
I would rather have a player now, and deal with the 2011 draft when it gets here. This team needs talent NOW, not later.
^^^^^^^^
Well would the Raiders be switching 1st Round picks with this alleged other team looking to trade for the #8?
Exchanging 1st Round picks this year, then getting a 2nd Rounder this year AND a 1st rounder next year would be a no brainer deal to me!
March 30th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Jhill,
Al never trades down in the 1st. That will never happen!
March 30th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
The California Highway Patrol officer who arrested Joey Porter is reportedly under investigation for police brutality.
Porter’s claims that the deputy struck him in the face were enough to at least launch an investigation. The officer is also accused of pointing his gun at Porter after the linebacker emerged from his car and started toward the officer. Porter was charged with assault on a peace officer after he slapped the officer’s hand.
Source: TMZ.com
March 30th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
jhill Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Dez Bryant forgot his cleats
Posted by Mike Florio on March 30, 2010 3:01 PM ET
As it turns out, Oklahoma State receiver Dez Bryant showed up on time for his Pro Day workout.
His cleats, however, didn’t make the trip.
We’re told that Bryant forgot to bring his cleats, and that as a result he had to wear a pair of brand-new shoes, which had not properly been broken in.
As a result, Bryant was slipping, as NFLN’s Mike Mayock pointed out when discussing the workout on the air.
Per a league source, at least one team measured Bryant’s times in the 40-yard dash at 4.57 and 4.62 seconds, within the 4.52 to 4.68 range reported by NFL.com. He presumably would have run faster, but for the slipping.
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LMFAO!
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WEIRD beyond belief!
Something tells me Dez does NOT want to be drafted within the top ten picks and let up on this workout so his stock would fall out of the top ten…..so he can go to a better football team in the middle round picks between 10-20.
How can this guy forget his cleats during an important pro day workout that has been scheduled for months??
Smells fishy to me!
March 30th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
# maddenraiderfan Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Oakland is dishing out their picks? Since when?
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Since they traded their 3rd rounder for Wimbley, and apparently have offered up their 2nd and one of their 7ths for McNabb.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Raider O Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Jhill,
Al never trades down in the 1st. That will never happen!
^^^^^^^^
One of the MANY reasons the team has sucked the last 7 years!
March 30th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
# HairyBush Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Some rival NFL executives already consider new Eagles GM Howie Roseman a “shakedown artist” due to the exorbitant original asking prices on his quarterbacks, according to Yahoo Sports’ Michael Silver.
Roseman never seemed likely to deal Kevin Kolb, but the second-round asking price for Michael Vick and the “first-round plus extras” for Donovan McNabb were ludicrous from the outset. The Eagles’ first-time GM now appears desperate to move McNabb to any team that will help him save face, even if it means sending the long-time franchise icon to football’s version of Siberia with Al Davis. To the surprise of no one, McNabb was a no-show for start of voluntary workouts on Monday.
Source: Yahoo Sports
LMAO-sometimes it’s embarrising to be a Raiders fan. “football’s version of siberia”
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Sometimes?
When was the last time you were proud to be a Raiders fan?
The only shining light in the last two decades, playing in the SB in ‘02, still turned out to be a national embarrassment.
Now it’s just a nonstop exercise in futility, called “damage control”.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
How can this guy forget his cleats during an important pro day workout that has been scheduled for months??
Smells fishy to me!
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here, let me repost this:
In addition to 30 NFL scouts others reportedly in attendance will be:
Lawrence Phillips, Maurice Clarett, Pacman Jones, Plaxico, and the cat that wacked Biggie.
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I guess pacman et al, forgot to remind him to bring his loafers.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
STFU wacky, grown men are talking. And your mommies group should be meeting right about now right?
March 30th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
DK,
Reaching for players, over paying for avg talent, and bad coaches are some of the other reasons IMHO.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
DMAC, I heard the CHP has been getting out of hand. I’ve heard a few stories in recent years about them.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Yeah, I live in Oakland and they patrol the city a lot. Especially on Thursdays.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
CHP’s getting more aggressive and hard core. They’re trying to shed this reputation:
http://api.ning.com/files/qqgeSDS7OBfefjFO5K6WEfPWVmqqstAho2o2OTPhocysEjW43r1yPm0ofrhUmCCchp*kY4FsMoMSNZOqyoiWGqd1P6CdKtVV/eric_estrada.jpg
March 30th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Later fellas
gotta run
March 30th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Rich,
I think Al will draft Dunlap. Add that as my selection to your list please.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
http://www.lionheartsecurity.ca/images/chips.jpg
March 30th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Dakota Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:07 am
408Raider
I don’t think trading our first round pick for a second this year and a first next year is a very good deal AT ALL!
I would rather have a player now, and deal with the 2011 draft when it gets here. This team needs talent NOW, not later.
^^^^^^^^
Well would the Raiders be switching 1st Round picks with this alleged other team looking to trade for the #8?
Exchanging 1st Round picks this year, then getting a 2nd Rounder this year AND a 1st rounder next year would be a no brainer deal to me!
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No, we would get their #1 next year and lose our #1 this year and only add an extra second rounder. No thank you.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Hmm…I am becoming far more intrigued with the possibility of the Raiders picking Center/Guard combo Maurkice Pouncey with that #8 pick.
Pounceys stock is rising fast and he is the best Center/Guard combo in the draft….hands down! He is much more athletic and a better technician than Iupati without a doubt.
He is 6′4, 310, has long arms and would add much needed POWER and VERSATILITY in the middle of that Raider O-Line.
Picking Pouncey at #8 would be an excellent pick IMO!
Then the old man can still draft a O-Tackle in Kyle Calloway or Richmond in Rounds 3 or 4.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Also, Oakland’s supporting cast is not exactly playoff ready. The offensive line is a major project, and McNabb, who will turn 34 in November, is not as nimble as he once was. His running numbers have decreased over the years and the injuries have mounted. McNabb has played a full season just four times in 11 seasons and has missed 17 games in the past five seasons. Could McNabb survive and be an effective player with Oakland’s offensive line? If not, Oakland’s skill-position players would have a difficult time bailing out McNabb. Oakland’s receivers are green and prone to dropping the ball, and the running game has been inconsistent.
It would be a tad unfair and naïve to think McNabb would be able to carry Oakland’s offense at this point.
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It’s comments like this that tell me that it’s too early to give up on our young QBs Russell and Gradkowski.
When you look at this team in the non Jamarcus Russell context, it’s pretty clear that the offense just flat out was bad REGARDLESS of Russell.
Fix the Oline, and find a playmaker for ANY QB to succeed here!
March 30th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
A BIG strong smart center is key to a dominating O-line. We haven’t had a decent center since Barrett Robbins. I’m all for Maurike Pouncey as the # 8 pick. He’s as close to a sure thing that you are going to find @ #8.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post 12:33 was priceless Jerry. LOL!!!!
Russel the next John Elway with a fatboy clause in his contract.
March 30th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
jhill Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Also, Oakland’s supporting cast is not exactly playoff ready. The offensive line is a major project, and McNabb, who will turn 34 in November, is not as nimble as he once was. His running numbers have decreased over the years and the injuries have mounted. McNabb has played a full season just four times in 11 seasons and has missed 17 games in the past five seasons. Could McNabb survive and be an effective player with Oakland’s offensive line? If not, Oakland’s skill-position players would have a difficult time bailing out McNabb. Oakland’s receivers are green and prone to dropping the ball, and the running game has been inconsistent.
It would be a tad unfair and naïve to think McNabb would be able to carry Oakland’s offense at this point.
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It’s comments like this that tell me that it’s too early to give up on our young QBs Russell and Gradkowski.
When you look at this team in the non Jamarcus Russell context, it’s pretty clear that the offense just flat out was bad REGARDLESS of Russell.
Fix the Oline, and find a playmaker for ANY QB to succeed here!
^^^^^^^^^
McNabb doesn’t need to run all over the place….just as long as he can still get rid of the ball quickly and make the accurate throws on time and be able to slip and slide around the pocket.
Plus the play calling needs to be MUCH better than it was last year also!
March 30th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
JB Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
A BIG strong smart center is key to a dominating O-line. We haven’t had a decent center since Barrett Robbins. I’m all for Maurike Pouncey as the # 8 pick. He’s as close to a sure thing that you are going to find @ #8.
^^^^^^^^
Yep!
March 30th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
# Raider O Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Rich,
I think Al will draft Dunlap. Add that as my selection to your list please.
Okkee Doke…
updated:
LIST OF WHO YOU THINK AL WILL ACTUALLY PICK,
FOR WHATEVER REASON..NOT who you want, but what direction you predict Al is going to go..can make sense, can make no sense whatsoever.
No guts, no glory. Don’t say LATER that you “knew he was going to get him” if you don’t predict it in advance.
If you do, the punishment is you have to have Kelli be your realtor in your next realty deal.
That will teach you
Obviously feel free to change your pick.
Richochet: Taylor Mays
Real Madden Raider: Tim Tebow
RaiderRockStar: Bruce Campbell
Raider O: Carlos Dunlap
DMAC: Eric Berry
RaiderDogg: Bruce Campbell
SteveAlford: Bruce Campbell or JPP. *to be determined*
InonewordRaider: Dan Williams
Dakota: Taylor Mays
RaiderNsuede: Joe Haden
GG: Jason Pierre-Paul
Buckeyeraider: Bruce Campbell
Maddenraiderfan: trade up and get Suh
JHill: Pierre Paul or Iupati
Just win baby: Bruce Campbell
909 Raiderlifer: Watdafuk! Whoo
BoJacks: Maurkice Pouncey
Big Banana: Bruce Campbell
Henry Lawrence: Bruce Campbell
exlaraiderseasonticketholder: Bruce Campbell w/impending PO’ed until June
Raider E: Dez Bryant
30 Year Raider: Bruce Campbell
March 30th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
# jhill Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Also, Oakland’s supporting cast is not exactly playoff ready. The offensive line is a major project, and McNabb, who will turn 34 in November, is not as nimble as he once was. His running numbers have decreased over the years and the injuries have mounted. McNabb has played a full season just four times in 11 seasons and has missed 17 games in the past five seasons. Could McNabb survive and be an effective player with Oakland’s offensive line? If not, Oakland’s skill-position players would have a difficult time bailing out McNabb. Oakland’s receivers are green and prone to dropping the ball, and the running game has been inconsistent.
It would be a tad unfair and naïve to think McNabb would be able to carry Oakland’s offense at this point.
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It’s comments like this that tell me that it’s too early to give up on our young QBs Russell and Gradkowski.
When you look at this team in the non Jamarcus Russell context, it’s pretty clear that the offense just flat out was bad REGARDLESS of Russell.
Fix the Oline, and find a playmaker for ANY QB to succeed here!
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Sure, that applies…to most.
Doesn’t desire rank up at the top, though?
Does the rest really matter when desire and self-motivation are absent?
Whether rumors are true, or not, regarding current weight, and off-season regiments of JR, it’s a contract year, which even the least motivated know that to get a signature on the dotted line, you need to give the impression you actually give a damn.
Has any player EVER been a success who waited until their 4th year, a contract year, to actually start putting in the effort.
None that I can recall.
March 30th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
You would be best served to realize when to shut up, child.
Yesterday had to one of your more humbling days, not to mention embarrassing days in all your years here, posting under any of the dozens of handles you have used. Last time I saw anything take a beating like that was the pinata at my nephews birthday party.
You don’t want a repeat, do you?
Good boy…now shut up.
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# Seymour Bush Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
STFU wacky, grown men are talking. And your mommies group should be meeting right about now right?
March 30th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
I heard Jerry Jones had dinner with Dez Bryant. There is no way he is availble at the bottom of the 1st round. I wonder ih the Cowboys the one DWhite said wants to trade up to #8. Besides the Cowboys are siting on a couple of 2nd round picks.
March 30th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Al Davis is a fagg.
March 30th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
RAIDERS NEW QB
The coach finally had put-together the perfect team for the Oakland Raiders. Only thing missing was a good quarterback. He’d scouted all the colleges, and even the Canadian and European Leagues, but he couldn’t find a ringer who could ensure a Super Bowl win.
Then one night while watching Fox News, he saw a war-zone scene in Afghanistan . In one corner of the background, he spotted a young Afghan Muslim soldier with a truly incredible arm. He threw a hand- grenade straight-into a
15-story window 100-yards away.
KAH-BOOM!!!
He threw another hand-grenade 75-yards away, right into a chimney !!!
KAH-BLOOEY!!!
Then he threw another one at a passing car doing 90 mph — BULLS -EYE! “I’ve GOT to get this guy!”, the coach said to himself. “He has the perfect arm!”.
So he brings him to the States and teaches him the great game of football. And the Raiders go on to win the Super Bowl.
The young Afghan is hailed as the great hero of football. And, when the coach asks him what he wants, all that the young man wants is to call his mother!
“Mom!”, he screams into the phone, “I just won the Super Bowl!”.
“I don’t want to talk to you”, the old Muslim woman says, “You are NOT my son!”.
“I don’t think you understand, Mother”, the young man pleads, “I’ve just won the greatest sporting event in the WORLD! I’m here among thousands of my adoring fans!!!”.
“NO!! Let me tell you!”, his mother sharply retorts. “At this very moment there are gunshots all around us. The neighborhood is a pile of rubble. Your two brothers were beaten within an inch of their lives last week, and I have to keep your sister in the house so she doesn’t get raped!”.
The old lady pauses, then tearfully says, “I will never, EVER forgive you for making us move to Oakland”.
March 30th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
LOLOLOLOL! Oakhole warzone.
March 30th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Posters MIA:
Dell, TW, R8paver, AZ, and OakL.
March 30th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
[Comment From RaiderFanMan RaiderFanMan: ]
Do the Raiders really think that Stanford Routt is the answer opposite Nnamdi (given his 1st and 3rd round tender)? He seems to be a one may PI machine… unless he’s giving up a TD
1:11 jerrymac: that happens to be Routt’s philosophy about PIs, by the way. He says you don’t worry about ‘em, don’t care about him. And you’re never bothered by them. You play your game, and if they call it, they call it.
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That’s a great philosophy Stanford. Just don’t care about them PI’s and ejections. Just keep playing your game, lol.
March 30th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
LMFAO COW
March 30th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Al Davis is a fagg.
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You have personal experience on the matter? Or are you just a racist against homosexuals? Are you a racist MR? The term you used is very derogatory and offensive. Is that a threat, do you hate homosexuals? I take your comments as very racist.
March 30th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Raider O Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Posters MIA:
Dell, TW, R8paver, AZ, and OakL.
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Florida Pete has been absent too, no?
March 30th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Ira, you’re not fooling anyone.
March 30th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Fooling anyone into what Bo?
March 30th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Do not assume that was MR. In fact, it was more likely to have been you.
March 30th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Why not wait until draft day to see if a super talent drops to #39?
I’d hate to pass up on another desean Jackson or Rey malaluga.
Richochet: who do I think mr Davis will draft?
It’s either Taylor mays or Bruce Campbell. I just ain’t decided yet.
Raiderrockstar: who do I want?
It’s either Russell okung or dez Bryant. But I’ll go with okung
March 30th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Raider O Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
DK,
Reaching for players, over paying for avg talent, and bad coaches are some of the other reasons IMHO.
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Yep and forcing good coaches who made the team into winners again to leave…ie Gruden….is another reason….along with not having a solid personnel man/gm
March 30th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Do not assume that was MR. In fact, it was more likely to have been you.
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Fine, I will just leave then. Thanks for being a jerk.
March 30th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Thanks Mack…
And you can list both as “either one or the other”
March 30th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
# Ira Einhorn Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Do not assume that was MR. In fact, it was more likely to have been you.
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Fine, I will just leave then. Thanks for being a jerk.
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Can you get us a dozen Krispy Kreme donuts before you go?
March 30th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Bo, you are so mean!
lol
March 30th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Not sure if you guys already know…
Dez Bryant ran a 4.58 to 4.62 range in the 40 today. Claims to forgot his cleats so he had to use brandnew cleats. Claims to have slipped with those new cleats.
whatever…Anquan Boldin ran 4.71 when he came out.
I think we can assume that Dez is not going to be drafted by Al Davis and co.
March 30th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
[Comment From SilverNBlackPASilverNBlackPA: ]
Just a comment re: Clausen’s attitude: Philip Rivers is a jerk and I’d love to see him in silver and black
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How many of you share the same sentiments. I for one cannot stand him, wouldnt want him….ever…
March 30th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
*updated*
LIST OF WHO YOU THINK AL WILL ACTUALLY PICK,
FOR WHATEVER REASON..
NOT who you want, but what direction you predict Al is going to go..can make sense, can make no sense whatsoever.
No guts, no glory.
Don’t say LATER that you “knew he was going to get him” if you don’t predict it in advance.
Obviously feel free to change your pick.
Richochet: Taylor Mays
RaiderRockStar: Bruce Campbell
Raider O: Carlos Dunlap
DMAC: Eric Berry
RaiderDogg: Bruce Campbell
SteveAlford: Bruce Campbell or JPP. *to be determined*
InonewordRaider: Dan Williams
Dakota: Taylor Mays
RaiderNsuede: Joe Haden
GG: Jason Pierre-Paul
Buckeyeraider: Bruce Campbell
Maddenraiderfan: trade up and get Suh
JHill: Pierre Paul or Iupati
Just win baby: Bruce Campbell
909 Raiderlifer: Watdafuk! Whoo
BoJacks: Maurkice Pouncey
Big Banana: Bruce Campbell
Henry Lawrence: Bruce Campbell
exlaraiderseasonticketholder: Bruce Campbell w/impending PO’ed until June
Raider E: Dez Bryant
30 Year Raider: Bruce Campbell
Mack-madden: Bruce Campbell or Taylor Mays
March 30th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Best case scenario is :
-Trading for McNabb
-Trading #8 pick for a later 1st & other picks
-Drafting Pouncey
March 30th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
Either or it is then
March 30th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
Thec07 Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
[Comment From SilverNBlackPASilverNBlackPA: ]
Just a comment re: Clausen’s attitude: Philip Rivers is a jerk and I’d love to see him in silver and black
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I think he is HOT!! He would look so hot in Silver and Black, it would really get me going up if you know what I mean.
March 30th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
# Thec07 Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
[Comment From SilverNBlackPASilverNBlackPA: ]
Just a comment re: Clausen’s attitude: Philip Rivers is a jerk and I’d love to see him in silver and black
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How many of you share the same sentiments. I for one cannot stand him, wouldnt want him….ever…
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Well, I know a lot of people who hated Jerry Rice, because of the Niners, who loved him once he came on board.
Know even more who hated Romo, who changed once he became a Raider.
Dallas fans HATED TO, until he became a Cowboy, and scored his first TD….
You never know…
March 30th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
You were one of the ones who liked Romo right Richochet? Figures.
March 30th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
# DeuceDeuce Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Best case scenario is :
-Trading for McNabb
-Trading #8 pick for a later 1st & other picks
-Drafting Pouncey
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Yeah…but what do YOU think AL is going to actually do, come draft day?….bizarre..or not??
March 30th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
You even liked Romo when he was a bronco right Richochet?
March 30th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
If I had to say who Mr. Davis would take at no.8 I would say joe haden, or taylor mays.
I would be pissed off and want to B10w up S#!T….
March 30th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
You were one of the ones who liked Romo right Richochet? Figures.
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Shut up, peanut.
If you’re going to cross post, at least use the correct punctuation. Gives you away.
Now, go try it again.
If you need help, just wave your hand, say “DUH”, and we’ll automatically know.
March 30th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Richochet, put me down for Pouncey.
March 30th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Rich, I can never say i “hate anyone, but If i could PR would be in that category. If he was in S&B I would hope him to get his cranium cracked…
clearly the only reason i said this because he will never be a raider….
March 30th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Ira Einhorn Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Al Davis is a fagg.
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You have personal experience on the matter? Or are you just a racist against homosexuals? Are you a racist MR? The term you used is very derogatory and offensive. Is that a threat, do you hate homosexuals? I take your comments as very racist.
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Ira you’re probably gay after all those years in prison for being so murdery to your ex GF.
March 30th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
# Thec07 Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
If I had to say who Mr. Davis would take at no.8 I would say joe haden, or taylor mays.
I would be pissed off and want to B10w up S#!T….
*updated*
LIST OF WHO YOU THINK AL WILL ACTUALLY PICK,
FOR WHATEVER REASON..
NOT who you want, but what direction you predict Al is going to go..can make sense, can make no sense whatsoever.
No guts, no glory.
Don’t say LATER that you “knew he was going to get him” if you don’t predict it in advance.
Obviously feel free to change your pick.
Richochet: Taylor Mays
RaiderRockStar: Bruce Campbell
Raider O: Carlos Dunlap
DMAC: Eric Berry
RaiderDogg: Bruce Campbell
SteveAlford: Bruce Campbell or JPP. *to be determined*
InonewordRaider: Dan Williams
Dakota: Taylor Mays
RaiderNsuede: Joe Haden
GG: Jason Pierre-Paul
Buckeyeraider: Bruce Campbell
Maddenraiderfan: trade up and get Suh
JHill: Pierre Paul or Iupati
Just win baby: Bruce Campbell
909 Raiderlifer: Watdafuk! Whoo
BoJacks: Maurkice Pouncey
Big Banana: Bruce Campbell
Henry Lawrence: Bruce Campbell
exlaraiderseasonticketholder: Bruce Campbell w/impending PO’ed until June
Raider E: Dez Bryant
30 Year Raider: Bruce Campbell
Mack-madden: Bruce Campbell or Taylor Mays
Thec07: Mays or Haden, with imminent Claymores set to blow
March 30th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
There seem to be some decent O line men in the draft this year and not just in the top 10.
Man, I hope fix the O line this year…
March 30th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Clausen looks like and paarently acts like an evil leprechan.
I’m skeptial of any ND QB after Brady “Most NFL ready QB” Quinn’s debacle.
Browns’ wrote him the f-ug off!
March 30th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
I dont think Mr. Davis will be doing the draft this year. This year someone’s other than Mr. Davis will be picking.
That said;
Rd 1 – If Avail SUH, OKUNG, or McCoy/ T Williams
Rd 1a – Do whatever it takes to get him Pouncey
Rd 2- traded in the move up to get Pouncey
Rd 3 – Best G on the board
Rd 4 – Tony Pike/Dan Lefevour
March 30th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
# Thec07 Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Rich, I can never say i “hate anyone, but If i could PR would be in that category. If he was in S&B I would hope him to get his cranium cracked…
clearly the only reason i said this because he will never be a raider….
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Yeah…I know what you mean….
Some friends are Niner fans..heard over and over “I hope that so and so Crabtree isn’t signed. F*** him…I’ll never back him”
I told them “you lie..lol…you’ll buy his jersey after his first TD, if he ever signs”.
Hell, after the first game a couple of them totally forgave and forgot…
Be interesting to see if any show up with his jersey next year
March 30th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Thec07 Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
I dont think Mr. Davis will be doing the draft this year. This year someone’s other than Mr. Davis will be picking.
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What makes you think that?
March 30th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Richochet, put me down for Pouncey.
*updated*
LIST OF WHO YOU THINK AL WILL ACTUALLY PICK,
FOR WHATEVER REASON..
NOT who you want, but what direction you predict Al is going to go..can make sense, can make no sense whatsoever.
No guts, no glory.
Don’t say LATER that you “knew he was going to get him” if you don’t predict it in advance.
Obviously feel free to change your pick.
Richochet: Taylor Mays
RaiderRockStar: Bruce Campbell
Raider O: Carlos Dunlap
DMAC: Eric Berry
RaiderDogg: Bruce Campbell
SteveAlford: Bruce Campbell or JPP. *to be determined*
InonewordRaider: Dan Williams
Dakota: Taylor Mays
RaiderNsuede: Joe Haden
GG: Jason Pierre-Paul
Buckeyeraider: Bruce Campbell
Maddenraiderfan: trade up and get Suh
JHill: Pierre Paul or Iupati
Just win baby: Bruce Campbell
909 Raiderlifer: Watdafuk! Whoo
BoJacks: Maurkice Pouncey
Big Banana: Bruce Campbell
Henry Lawrence: Bruce Campbell
exlaraiderseasonticketholder: Bruce Campbell w/impending PO’ed until June
Raider E: Dez Bryant
30 Year Raider: Bruce Campbell
Mack-madden: Bruce Campbell or Taylor Mays
Thec07: Mays or Haden, with imminent Claymores set to blow
Bo Schembechler Jackson: Maurkice Pouncey
March 30th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
We ALL should know by now that a straight line 40 time is an OVERRATED evaluation tool.
Have any of you ever truly seen Dez Bryant play? He’s a beast!
A 4.5 40 time big fing deal. Throw pads on the guy, he’s a natural athlete, who has great body control, size and hands. His splits were great, 11-1 broad jump is insane, 38 vert is awesome too.
March 30th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Whether or not Al will be at the Raiders table won’t affect, IMO, Al having a phone on his ear, and deciding who the Raiders pick.
March 30th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Gotta book soon….
DKnight…care to add your prediction on who Al takes, in his moment of wonderment?
One or two choices..if you care to..
March 30th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
DKnight007 Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
We ALL should know by now that a straight line 40 time is an OVERRATED evaluation tool.
Have any of you ever truly seen Dez Bryant play? He’s a beast!
A 4.5 40 time big fing deal. Throw pads on the guy, he’s a natural athlete, who has great body control, size and hands. His splits were great, 11-1 broad jump is insane, 38 vert is awesome too.
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Bryant seems like he’s got an attitude. Lots of great wides do, but just got a bad feelin bout that guy…
IF he runs under 4.5 he’ll be touted as a top 10 but I don’t think he’s going to be chosen in the top 10.
March 30th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Isn’t today Bryant’s pro day?
March 30th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Al will choose our draftees in perpetuity.
“Sleep all day, party all night…never grow old, never die. It’s fun being a vampire!”
March 30th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Ty Rich.
March 30th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Bo,
Pete was here the other day, but the red have been MIA for months now.
I hope all is well. (I know TW couldn’t post anymore due to his job, but I’m not sure about the rest)
March 30th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
“Oakland Raiders safety Hiram Eugene has signed his restricted free agent tender to return to the team next season. ”
WE ARE SET BABY!
March 30th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
“Beat writer Mike Garafolo confirms reports that the Giants are high on Clemson RB C.J. Spiller.
The Giants were listed as one of the teams rumored to be considering a trade into the top ten for a shot at Spiller. According to Garafolo, “It might be a bit early for that kind of talk, but I can tell you the team likes Spiller.” The Giants are also believed to be high on Alabama LB Rolando McClain, who will visit on April 12.
Source: Neward Star-Ledger”
Hmm, could this be the un-named team?
March 30th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
#SOME HAVE POSTED TWO GUESSES AS TO WHO AL MIGHT PICK..which isn’t a bad idea, considering the scale of things..so feel free to add a second choice, if you’ve got one.
*updated*
LIST OF WHO YOU THINK AL WILL ACTUALLY PICK,
FOR WHATEVER REASON..
NOT who you want, but what direction you predict Al is going to go..can make sense, can make no sense whatsoever.
No guts, no glory.
Don’t say LATER that you “knew he was going to get him” if you don’t predict it in advance.
Obviously feel free to change your pick.
Richochet: Taylor Mays
RaiderRockStar: Bruce Campbell
Raider O: Carlos Dunlap
DMAC: Eric Berry
RaiderDogg: Bruce Campbell
SteveAlford: Bruce Campbell or JPP. *to be determined*
InonewordRaider: Dan Williams
Dakota: Taylor Mays
RaiderNsuede: Joe Haden
GG: Jason Pierre-Paul
Buckeyeraider: Bruce Campbell
Maddenraiderfan: trade up and get Suh
JHill: Pierre Paul or Iupati
Just win baby: Bruce Campbell
909 Raiderlifer: Watdafuk! Whoo
BoJacks: Maurkice Pouncey
Big Banana: Bruce Campbell
Henry Lawrence: Bruce Campbell
exlaraiderseasonticketholder: Bruce Campbell w/impending PO’ed until June
Raider E: Dez Bryant
30 Year Raider: Bruce Campbell
Mack-madden: Bruce Campbell or Taylor Mays
Thec07: Mays or Haden, with imminent Claymores set to blow
Bo Schembechler Jackson: Maurkice Pouncey
March 30th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Red: rest*
March 30th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Raider O Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Bo,
Pete was here the other day, but the red have been MIA for months now.
I hope all is well. (I know TW couldn’t post anymore due to his job, but I’m not sure about the rest)
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Raiderdell is busy during tax season, and said he would probably chime in near the draft.
March 30th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Thec07 Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
I dont think Mr. Davis will be doing the draft this year. This year someone’s other than Mr. Davis will be picking.
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What makes you think that?
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I am not sure. I am well documented my displeasure with the way the organization is structured. I dont like that we are not ran like a “real NFL ” franchise.
that said, I just have a hunch that we are going to build the line and finnally do the right thing…
March 30th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Glad to hear that about Pete, thanks O.
Anyone familiar with this outrage? CSU is paying Palin $200K to spek at the Stanislaus campus – http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/03/30/MN321CMU9A.DTL
March 30th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Richochet Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Gotta book soon….
DKnight…care to add your prediction on who Al takes, in his moment of wonderment?
One or two choices..if you care to..
^^^^^^^^^
Too soon for an official prediction. I would LOVE to see Suh picked, but it won’t happen most likely.
After seeing the old man Al’s weird trend recently….I would have said Campbell as of last month, but who knows now?
I am almost convinced though DT Dan Williams will NOT be the pick at #8, since this years draft is DEEP at the DT position.
As of now I would say OT Trent Williams, OT Anthony Davis, or Center/Guard Maurkice Pouncey or perhaps a different type of surprise…how about a TRADE DOWN from #8??
Hmmm…..
March 30th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Glad to hear that about Pete, thanks O.
Anyone familiar with this outrage? CSU is paying Palin $200K to spek at the Stanislaus campus – http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/03/30/MN321CMU9A.DTL
^^^^^^^^^
I heard….LOL….someone paying 200K for spread eagle Palin to speak??
Someone got suckered! Sheesh!
March 30th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
jhill Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Also, Oakland’s supporting cast is not exactly playoff ready. The offensive line is a major project, and McNabb, who will turn 34 in November, is not as nimble as he once was. His running numbers have decreased over the years and the injuries have mounted. McNabb has played a full season just four times in 11 seasons and has missed 17 games in the past five seasons. Could McNabb survive and be an effective player with Oakland’s offensive line? If not, Oakland’s skill-position players would have a difficult time bailing out McNabb. Oakland’s receivers are green and prone to dropping the ball, and the running game has been inconsistent.
It would be a tad unfair and naïve to think McNabb would be able to carry Oakland’s offense at this point.
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It’s comments like this that tell me that it’s too early to give up on our young QBs Russell and Gradkowski.
When you look at this team in the non Jamarcus Russell context, it’s pretty clear that the offense just flat out was bad REGARDLESS of Russell.
Fix the Oline, and find a playmaker for ANY QB to succeed here!
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I’ve been saying this from the very beginning. A bad OL, green receivers prone to drops, a bad running game, a non-existent return game, and a defense that sucks. How the hell do you give up on a 24-yr-old QB going into his 3rd year of playing after you handed him $40 million under these circumstances? And by the way, he enginerred three game-winning/tying drives for us last year. Makes no sense at all. Where did you get this article Jhill?
March 30th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
What is a reach and what isn’t a reach is all subjective.
Pouncey is the best Center and Guard in this draft and the highest and #1 overall rated at BOTH the Center and Guard positions.
The Center position in the NFL is just as important as having a good LT on that O-Line.
Every teams draft board is different and if the Raiders value having a solid Center, than why not get the highest rated overall at #8 instead of having him go to a better team between picks 11-18??
Not that much of a reach if you think about it and nothing compared to a REAL reach like drafting DHB last year certainly was.
Picking Pouncey at #8 would be GREAT value IMO!
March 30th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
DKnight…there is a list for who you want, the choice that you believe might be available, and would help out the team at #8.
Then there is a list of who you think Al will take, being Al, for whatever reason.
For the “Who AL WILL PICK list, pick two…one you think he might take with a mild brain fart, and another that you think he’ll take after an all night binge, along with the brain fart.
What will be really funny is if NO ONE picks it, lol…which very well could happen.
Work calls…
March 30th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Debo,
It was Bill Williamson commenting on why he thinks McNabb won’t be successful here.
McNabb can’t get it done, but Russell was supposed to take us to the playoffs?
LMFAO!
March 30th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Finally, a few talking heads are starting to make sense. I am now officially a fan of Mike Florio.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/30/pft-daily-anti-triplets-force-raiders-to-pursue-mcnabb/
March 30th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
“The Philadelphia Eagles are continuing trade discussions with a number of teams about trading quarterback Donovan McNabb and those discussions could continue until draft day, a senior team official told ESPN’s Sal Paolantonio on Tuesday.”
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lol, great…this might drag out as long as the yearly Cable death watch.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
If this does happen they should wait until draft day, no reason to pull the trigger on this futility strike anyway.
Vote NO on Mcnabb….
March 30th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
An ideal scenario would be for Claussen to catch fire and either go at 4, or have someone willing to trade up with us to get him.
I think Bradford, Claussen, Berry, McCoy, Suh, and Okung could all be gone before we pick. Dez Bryant, Pierr Paul, and Joe Haden are also in line to go before we pick.
We are going to have some pretty good players on the board when we pick. Pouncey? Interesting thought process.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Mr. Davis needs to find a way to get T williams and M Pouncey. Building the oline is going to turn this team around, not McNabb…..
March 30th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
jhill Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
An ideal scenario would be for Claussen to catch fire and either go at 4, or have someone willing to trade up with us to get him.
I think Bradford, Claussen, Berry, McCoy, Suh, and Okung could all be gone before we pick. Dez Bryant, Pierr Paul, and Joe Haden are also in line to go before we pick.
We are going to have some pretty good players on the board when we pick. Pouncey? Interesting thought process.
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And then Al will draft someone that was a borderline late first round pick and the Bills and Jags will be happy.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
jhill Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Debo,
It was Bill Williamson commenting on why he thinks McNabb won’t be successful here.
McNabb can’t get it done, but Russell was supposed to take us to the playoffs?
LMFAO!
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Lol! About this trade rumor with another team giving us its 2nd this year and 1st next year. Do we also get it’s 1st this year?
March 30th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Like this blogs take –
“The talking bobble-heads are certain the Raiders are going to trade Nnamdi Asomugha or a draft pick for QB Donovan McNabb. The biggest problem with the Asomugha trade is that the Raiders traded Asomugha to the Jets last month. Wait, they didn’t? Didn’t ESPN say it was going to happen? It didn’t happen right after Tom Cable got fired? hmmm”
Goes on to pick apart the rumors.
http://raiderschalkboard.blogspot.com/
March 30th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
COW, Question what do you think about the raiders going after Mcnabb?
March 30th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Lol! About this trade rumor with another team giving us its 2nd this year and 1st next year. Do we also get it’s 1st this year?
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Nope. No way Al does that…who cares about a pick in 2011? There might not even be football in 2011! Get the player now and worry about 2011 later.
If someone wants to move up to 8, they better give us their 2010 first rounder + additional picks. None of this delayed compensation BS.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Coach on Wheels Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Like this blogs take –
“The talking bobble-heads are certain the Raiders are going to trade Nnamdi Asomugha or a draft pick for QB Donovan McNabb. The biggest problem with the Asomugha trade is that the Raiders traded Asomugha to the Jets last month. Wait, they didn’t? Didn’t ESPN say it was going to happen? It didn’t happen right after Tom Cable got fired? hmmm”
Goes on to pick apart the rumors.
http://raiderschalkboard.blogspot.com/
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This is a great take.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Rams – Bradford
Det – Okung
TB – Suh
Wash – Claussen
KC – Berry
Seat – McCoy
Clev – Haden
Oak – ?????
March 30th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Afternoon Fellas,
I’m with Dakota on this.
No delayed compensation. at least not regarding 1st round talent this season.
We have to have that pick.
Trade down for crying out loud.
Let’s fill some damn holes.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Nope. No way Al does that…who cares about a pick in 2011? There might not even be football in 2011! Get the player now and worry about 2011 later.
If someone wants to move up to 8, they better give us their 2010 first rounder + additional picks. None of this delayed compensation BS.
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I agree. I want us picking in the 1st and 2nd THIS year.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Eagles officials say that multiple teams have made offers for McNabb, and if there had been an offer that met their expectations they would have made a trade by now.
Reports of a #2 are inaccurate because players are involved so far, so the Eagles will take a lesser rd pick for the right player.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Get Mcnabb with our 2nd IF he can be had.
Trade out of #8, aquire additional picks, and use them to fill holes in what is suppossed to be a deep draft.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Nobody folds up like a lawn chair better than McNabb in the post season, who wouldn’t want a guy like that ?
March 30th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
jhill Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Eagles officials say that multiple teams have made offers for McNabb, and if there had been an offer that met their expectations they would have made a trade by now.
Reports of a #2 are inaccurate because players are involved so far, so the Eagles will take a lesser rd pick for the right player.
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This is better yet.
Package Howard and whom ever.
Eugene signed his tender. Mabey Huff could be in play.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Now we can talk ..
McNabb for anyone on the roster, but NOT one of our top 2 picks.
Nnamdi, Morrison, Howard, and a 4th rd pick.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
If aso is on the table for draft bait, menas we will be taking joe haden at 8…
March 30th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Nobody folds up like a lawn chair better than McNabb in the post season, who wouldn’t want a guy like that ?
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If the lawn chair can get the Raiders to the post season…I’ll take that chance.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
If AL does bring in McNabb we should make a run at T.O and make it an official circus in Oakland.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Sorry guys, but I am NOT a fan of trading Huff.
Throw Eugene in the deal with Morrison and Howard.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Len, with our O-line post season is not likely, even with the lawn chair in the fold.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
jhill Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Now we can talk ..
McNabb for anyone on the roster, but NOT one of our top 2 picks.
Nnamdi, Morrison, Howard, and a 4th rd pick.
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Are you serious? You would trade Nnamdi for McNabb and nothing else?
God I am glad you are not our GM. Al wanted two first rounders for Jerry Porter, can you imagine what he would want for Nnamdi? The priced shutdown CB that took him ten years and 20 picks to find?
lol
March 30th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Haden is going to Cleve, and Berry is going to KC.
I’d take Asante back in the deal since we are playing more zone coverages lately. Stan Routt is starting on one side, so we’ll see, lol.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Nnamdi has peaked and his contract is up. I say trade him..
March 30th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
This draft is looking more, and more like joe haden. The personnel deparment csnt be any more ridiculous.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Nobody folds up like a lawn chair better than McNabb in the post season, who wouldn’t want a guy like that ?
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LOl…nice pun Mista..intentional or otherwise.
Agreed about the line.
Hell everybody agrees about the Line(s)
March 30th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Rd.1: Trent Williams OT- Fantastic athleticism and had a great combine. I a nasty blocker, the type Al loves, but has a questionable work ethic. Arms are shorter than you would like.
Rd.2: Carlos Dunlap DE- I would love to get Brian Price or Mt. Cody here but Carlos Dunlap is 6′6″ 277lbs and ran a 4.59 at the Florida Pro Day, according to Mike Mayock.
Rd.3: Jacoby Ford WR- Would love to see Ciron Black picked here, or Donald Butler, or Cam Thomas, or Dan Lefevour but we know why Ford will probably be the pick here.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Len, with our O-line post season is not likely, even with the lawn chair in the fold.
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Mista…meant to paste this to the earlier response.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Dakota,
I would trade Nnamdi’s contract in a heartbeat for McNabb straight up if we could. Would even throw in Morrison to get it done. If the Eagles want to give us Samuels back in the deal or a 4th rd pick, all the better.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Mr. Davis needs to find a way to get
1. T – T Williams
1a. C – M Pouncey
Building the oline is going to turn this team around, not McNabb…..
We dont build the oline mcnabb wont last 4 gsmes.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Thec07 Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
This draft is looking more, and more like joe haden. The personnel deparment csnt be any more ridiculous.
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Reasons why Haden WON’T be the pick.
5-11
4.48 40 time.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Exactly Mista …
And Nnamdi can’t be franchised after this year. Most likely his last year in Oakland anyway.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Thec07 Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Mr. Davis needs to find a way to get
1. T – T Williams
1a. C – M Pouncey
Building the oline is going to turn this team around, not McNabb…..
We dont build the oline mcnabb wont last 4 gsmes.
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Agreed.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Jhill,
I don’t think I’d do that deal regarding Nnamdi,
But the contract is a concern.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Thec – I think it is a risky deal. I agree with that blog he’s worth our 3rd rd pick. I like him but unlike Plunkett or Gannon he hasn’t been riding the pine for long periods. He’d maybe do okay but he could be a WCO only guy like Jeff Garcia 49ers pro bowl zip elsewhere) or Elvis Grbac, Steve Bono etc…
Zach Miller was a 2nd rd pick. Too many questions for that high a pick. IMHO He’d be a good trade for the right price.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Thec07 Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
This draft is looking more, and more like joe haden. The personnel deparment csnt be any more ridiculous.
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Reasons why Haden WON’T be the pick.
5-11
4.48 40 time.
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Hope youre right Bro…i hope you are right….
March 30th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
COW = The Voice Of Reason….. where have you been man?
March 30th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
jhill Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Exactly Mista …
And Nnamdi can’t be franchised after this year. Most likely his last year in Oakland anyway.
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????????
Why would he need to be “franchised” after this year? He’d get paid the average of the top 5 CBs in the League in 2011 his last year of his current contract and Davis is always good at getting players to re work.
Its obvious people who things like “Nnamdi’s peaked” don’t watch every Raider game.
I watched nearly all of the Jets games last year and yeah, Revis is the truth, but Nnamdi is the best CB in the game.
He’s the most complete DB in the game, great man coverage, intelligent, great tackler and a great Raider.
Trade him on Madeen but not in reality.
DBs are the “corner” stone of Davis’s pass rush / cover D and Nnamdi’s the poster child for Al’s rare conversion successes.
No way he gets traded and no way we should.
http://www.modbee.com/2009/02/19/605110/asomugha-signs-3-year-deal-with.html
March 30th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
lol Had some work/health issues. Easing back into the Raiders blog. I’ll be around more.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Draft day we should swap seconds with St. Louis, and thown in morrison, and take Pouncey at 33 if he is available.
Colts have saturday, but may take a run at him. Hwe wont be on the board by the time we come around at 39.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
COW, good to have you back…you bring a level of sanity, to this blog…. hope your issues are good…
March 30th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Thec,
Who knows who Davis will pick this draft?
If he addresses the O line and our offense can finally break its TD drought things will be looking up.
IF…
March 30th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Len, the pun was intended thanks for reading.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Nnamdi21, when I said Nnamdi has peaked that doesn’t mean he is on the decline it means he’s not going to get any better.
Feel free to browse through an online dictionary when you get the chance.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Thec07 Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Draft day we should swap seconds with St. Louis, and thown in morrison, and take Pouncey at 33 if he is available.
Colts have saturday, but may take a run at him. Hwe wont be on the board by the time we come around at 39.
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Likely not avail by our 2nd rounder.
I think every AFC West team is in dire need of a center. let alone the League.
Line men at a premium right now. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Pouncey and or Iupati go in the 1st.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Mista…lol nice job.
The end.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Nnamdi,
Of course your namesake would draw that response from you, lol.
I don’t think Nnamdi has lost his skills, so to speak, but I think paying him Brady and Manning $ is INSANE!
I’d trade that contract in a minute. Nnamdi’s 3rd year is an option year I thought?
March 30th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
I’ve read in more than one place that both iupati and Pouncy will be gone in the 1st round.
I really would have liked to see Mack in a Raider uni.
Could have been set for a decade at center.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
The end.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Nnamdi21, when I said Nnamdi has peaked that doesn’t mean he is on the decline it means he’s not going to get any better.
Feel free to browse through an online dictionary when you get the chance
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I agree. He’s peaked cuz frankly you can’t get much better. THATS why trading him is a stupid idea.
“Oh, that guys one of the best in the game, we should ditch him.”
Yeah, great line of reasoning.
Don’t try to back pedal on semantics.
Feel free to TRY thinking.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Nnamdi,
yeah that is wishful thinking on my part on getting pouncey. If he was on the board, MR. Davis would not take him anyway….
March 30th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Nnamdi’s contract is a deal breaker for most teams I’d say.
Unless of course the old amn were willing to take substantially less in the deal.
I don’t think that will ever happen.
Mabey Nnamdi goes the way of Woodson?
March 30th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
off to see the wizard.
LTR NATION….
March 30th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Now that he has peaked we can let someone else enjoy the downside of his career for a HUGE contract..
See ya #21
March 30th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Per NFL.com, if the Raiders choose to keep Asomugha for the third year of the deal he would be paid the average of the top five highest-paid cornerbacks or $16.875 million – whichever is greater. If the Raiders don’t want to pay Asomugha that much, he would become a free agent and the Raiders could not use the franchise tag on him.
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From your article Nnamdi
Read more: http://www.modbee.com/2009/02/19/605110/asomugha-signs-3-year-deal-with.html#ixzz0jhdzJMrZ
March 30th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Thec07 Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Nnamdi,
yeah that is wishful thinking on my part on getting pouncey. If he was on the board, MR. Davis would not take him anyway….
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Yeah, its like the old man out thinks himself too often with the “raider” asymetrical way of approaching the game.
When he does make the “logical” selection (Gallery and *gulp* Russell) it hasn’t panned out exactly as we’d hoped.
Line needs fixed plainly. Whether that happens or not…???
March 30th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
a fourth score and two years ago Barrett Robbins brought a prolonged disintegration upon the Nation.
conceived in bipolar drunkenness and exascerbated by Callahan’s resolute ignorance this led to all manner of unsightly occurrences (KoolKell’s perpetual lists, MR’s continual hate of the Managing General Partner, Dakota’s high blood pressure and L’il Rico’s sophomoric needling – as well as the fundamentally flawed SEC heroes JaM and McF…I give DHB a pass because he does try).
Henceforth Hue Jack will tell the Cable Guy to stick it where the sun don’t shine, the defense will become a force (hey, Hiram’s back!) and SeaBass will set a new record for the longest field goal in history.
Case closed.
O-line in ‘010.
March 30th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
297. Good Jhill. I can’t see Oakland letting him go if he’s still at his “peak”.
If his play falls off a cliff it gives them an out though huh?
March 30th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Now that he has peaked we can let someone else enjoy the downside of his career for a HUGE contract..
See ya #21
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Mistabr0wn Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Nnamdi21, when I said Nnamdi has peaked that doesn’t mean he is on the decline it means he’s not going to get any better.
Feel free to browse through an online dictionary when you get the chance
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Make up your mind idiot. No wonder why your a Repub-lican.
According to your line of thinking the Colts should’ve traded Peyton Manning years ago or any other player at the top of their game cuz thy’re not going to get any better than being the BEST?!
Trade them when they are playing the best football of their lives.
What a dolt.
March 30th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Thec07 Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Mr. Davis needs to find a way to get T williams and M Pouncey. Building the oline is going to turn this team around, not McNabb…..
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Can’t get both in Round 1….however what if they get Pouncey at #8 and then how about go with Big Vlad Ducasse in Round 2?
Or get Pouncey at #8 and then go DT in Round 2 and then pick RT Kyle Calloway in Round 3?
March 30th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Thec07 Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
This draft is looking more, and more like joe haden. The personnel deparment csnt be any more ridiculous.
^^^^^^^^
Worst possible pick would Haden besides Campbell being picked….
March 30th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
can we get gruden back?the only thing worse than jg and bruce allen bidding adios was the tuck rule…..i still won’t buy kraft products and walt coleman is proof that the end of the universe could be closer than oaktown seein’ a super bowl….
March 30th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Nnamdi21,
Asomugha is still playing at an elite level, as is CWood at his advanced football age.
Then there was Terry McDaniel. As good as any corner in the league one year and then kaput.
March 30th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
severeraiderz Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Rd.1: Trent Williams OT- Fantastic athleticism and had a great combine. I a nasty blocker, the type Al loves, but has a questionable work ethic. Arms are shorter than you would like.
Rd.2: Carlos Dunlap DE- I would love to get Brian Price or Mt. Cody here but Carlos Dunlap is 6′6″ 277lbs and ran a 4.59 at the Florida Pro Day, according to Mike Mayock.
Rd.3: Jacoby Ford WR- Would love to see Ciron Black picked here, or Donald Butler, or Cam Thomas, or Dan Lefevour but we know why Ford will probably be the pick here.
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I can definitely something like this…..but with Lamarr Houston in Round 2 instead of Dunlap.
I would accept Jacoby Ford as a 3rd Round pick….but I can also see old man Al reaching and drafting him in Round 2! That would be horrible…..
March 30th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
LhayesS37,
although Kraft owns half of the processed food in the known universe, Nestle the other half, I also refuse to buy anything Kraft.
March 30th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
can we get okung and mcnabb?donovan though a crybaby has a stronger wing than BG.if JR can’t change plays at the los he can’t play.get rid of frye…if
JR has 0 work ethic then let him take his cake and get in more lousy hip hop videos….at least he will have a little fun at his own expense
March 30th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Eric Berry is apparently the freak of this year’s draft (aside from Bruce Campbell’s trot). Can Berry play cornerback?
March 30th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
great post lonetree about b-rob….
March 30th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
In the history of the Raiders, AD has picked 10 O-linemen & 8 D-linemen as his first pick. That equates to 36% of the time a lineman of either the defense or offense has been his first choice. Let’s hope it’s time, this entire draft, to pick linemen across the board/ It’s time to really beef up the lines. Maurike Pouncey, C should be our #1 pick this time around.
March 30th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Republican’s going after younger contributers in Dominatrix Clubs?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/30/us/30gop.html?src=mv
March 30th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Eagles are posturing and claims that trade talks will continue until draft day.
March 30th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Dakota,
Is that Idaho Mens room maestro still in the Senate?
March 30th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
JB,
one can only hope that an O-lineman choice is the way it pans out.
a few years back I was cheering like a kid when the first two choices for the Raiders were the top-rated offensive tackle (Gallery) and the top-rated center (Grove).
ahem, cough, oh well…
the crapshoot
March 30th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
anything with a kraft label is history. last season was the most misuse of talent ever.you think mcnabb would work with hackett?or hue jackson?cable should never call a play[fake fg vs kc]gotta have the lt.move henderson to rt.barnes won’t last the season at rt.can’t trade #21.defense will hurt without him,could be great with him.don’t make the trade without upgrading lt.phillys o-line was bad,you don’t want mcnabb getting smashed again like last year…
March 30th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
# M Lonetree Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
JB,
one can only hope that an O-lineman choice is the way it pans out.
a few years back I was cheering like a kid when the first two choices for the Raiders were the top-rated offensive tackle (Gallery) and the top-rated center (Grove).
ahem, cough, oh well…
the crapshoot
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Gallery turned out to be a very good Guard. Grove, well that’s another story. Satelle is no better. The mop handle is gone, Carlisle is way past his prime. Henderson may be ok but the vote is not in yet. Actually, he may be better on the right side. Who really knows about Barnes? Forget Pears. Morris is ok as a backup spot player only. Walker could possibly work out at the guard position. We are in most need of a Barrett Robbins type center – that’s Pouncey!.
March 30th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Barback 0bamas accomplishments:
-Bank takeover = Failure
-GM takeover = Failure
-Cash for clunkers = failure
-Job Stimulus = Unemployment goes up
-Cash for Caulkers = Failure
Can hardly wait for this a$$ clown to ruin our health care..
Hope & Change!
March 30th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
did anyone ever consider that jaMarcus might be jealous of Haynesworth? Russell only ran into a potential 60 million at 3 bills whereas Albert ran into a potential 100 million for being fatter. begs the question…
March 30th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Source: McNabb talks may go until draft
By Sal Paolantonio
The Philadelphia Eagles are continuing trade discussions with a number of teams about trading quarterback Donovan McNabb and those discussions could continue until draft day, a senior team official told ESPN’s Sal Paolantonio on Tuesday.
“There is no so-called front-runner,” the senior team official said. “We continue to engage in conversations with multiple teams that initially contacted us. Some of the offers involve draft picks, some involve a player, some involve many players. We are evaluating the offers. But if some team had totally blown us away, we would probably have made a deal already.”
League sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter on Monday that the Oakland Raiders have emerged as the leading candidate to land McNabb in a trade.
The league sources told Schefter all the ingredients for a trade are in place. Of all the teams the Eagles have spoken with, the Raiders have been the most willing to meet the Eagles’ asking price.
A league source told Paolantonio the discussions focus on McNabb, although a number of teams are still calling about backup Kevin Kolb. The source said the Eagles are no longer shopping Michael Vick.
Also, the team official said there is no magic number in the draft that would be required to make a deal for McNabb. Late last week, there was an Associated Press report the Eagles wanted at least the 42nd pick in the draft for McNabb. “That’s not true,” the team official said.
Sources told Schefter McNabb’s contract, which has one year and $11.2 million left on it, scared off other teams. But, the sources said, Oakland is not concerned that McNabb is due a $6.2 million roster bonus on May 5 nor that the quarterback is scheduled to become a free agent after the 2010 season.
At the league meetings, head coach Andy Reid said the Eagles were listening to offers for all three quarterbacks, including 11-year veteran McNabb, who quickly said on his Web site that he wanted a quick resolution to the trade conversations.
But the Eagles are intent on moving deliberately. Trading McNabb has proved to be tricky because of his age — he will be 34 in November — and the fact that he is in the last year of his contract and wants a lucrative long-term extension.
Sal Paolantonio covers the NFL for ESPN.
March 30th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
revis has a pass rush.NA has no pass rush….give me #21 365…
March 30th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
f the jets.but damage is what they will be doing next year…hope oaktown only sees them in the playoffs
March 30th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
playyyyyyyyyyyyyyofffffsssss??????
March 30th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
JB,
if Langston works out as a guard great. I don’t know about Pouncey. Last year Michalczik could’ve told ‘em about Mack’s excellence. Cable overrule?
March 30th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
And for all of the BSPN-following freaks who claim that choosing a center or a guard in the top 10 is not done, “a reach”…I give you JaM, McF and DHB.
March 30th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
If the only thing Obama accomplishes as president is making white racists embarrass themselves in public the way they have been, he’ll have done enough for me.
March 30th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Cable needs to reassess his criteria on what a top lineman really is. He too easily settles for less than top level players. Some say the ZBS allows a team to use players of less ability. Cable has used this fact in selecting 2nd tier linemen. He needs to stock upon top level linemen. If 2nd tier players make ZBS good, then great players should make it great. Tom Cable, quit settling for 2nd best talent! Maybe therein lies your problem.
Take Pouncey @ #8.
March 30th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
run the wildcat!!!!!!what the hell are these guys doing with d-mac?i gotta be out of my friggin’ mind
March 30th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Butterbean needs to suck up to Al DAvis, enough to get some kind of title to where he could buy the team, then he needs to take the team over from Al when Al is out of town. Until Butterbean does that, he’s not even a man.
March 30th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
i say pick up a couple more 6′6″, 340 pound washed up tackles and stoke the o-line…
pound the ball till it’s flat…
March 30th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
MR,
Bob “Butterbean” Love? Chet Walker? Tom Boerwinkle? Jerry Sloan? Norm Van Lier?
March 30th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Prepare for about a hundred or so comments telling you that the league is a passing league now, Pete. That’s what happens when you suggest we develop a running game.
March 30th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
al may trade for mike vick….you never know
March 30th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Tom “Butterbean” Cable, Lonetree.
March 30th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
okung next to gallery
March 30th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Maurkice Pouncey
TOP RATED NFL DRAFT SCOUT CENTERS: *Maurkice Pouncey, Florida, 6-5, 304, 1-2: Winner of the 2009 Rimington Trophy, awarded annually to the nation’s top center, Pouncey plays with a nasty disposition and delights in putting defenders on their backs. His toughness was reflected before the Sugar Bowl when he had to receive treatment for kidney stones hours before kickoff but played. Although he left Gainesville a year early, Pouncey has shown enough to be ranked the top center prospect in this draft. Coaches rave about his field intelligence and ability to make all of the offensive line calls while making the shotgun snap for the Gators. He has exceptional quickness and gets into good position to pass protect if somebody is over him and shows excellent awareness helping other linemen. His identical twin, Mike, plays right guard for the Gators, but he chose to return for his senior season. – Frank Cooney, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com/CBS Sports/USA TODAY
March 30th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Last year was the perfect time to develop a running game, green QB and WR’s, and loaded with RB’s. But, nope.
March 30th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Florida Pete,
your wisdom is needed to address the MLB question. A solid Middle Linebacker and the D is fixed.
plenty of washed up offensive players to go around on the line and in the backfield (could say wide-out but Javon done flew the coop for a back alley somewhere).
March 30th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
MR,
I assumed as much, but the line-up of the ‘75 foe of the Warriors in the Western Conference finals prior to their title run came to mind.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Last year was the perfect time to develop a running game. They had a green QB & WR’s, loaded with running backs.
But, nope. Al Davis’ call.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
We should be able to pick up Donald Butler, MLB Washington with our 3rd round pick. He will be a very strong run thumper.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
JB,
thanks for the Pouncey info. I’m down for AD (Anthony Davis – just thought I’d give the initials to p!ss off KK and MR), but I’d back the play for Maurkice also.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Please don’t mention sports teams from Oakland in the ’70s and Butterbean in the same sentence, Lonetree. Thank you.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
# Mistabr0wn Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Barback 0bamas accomplishments:
-Bank takeover = Failure
-GM takeover = Failure
-Cash for clunkers = failure
-Job Stimulus = Unemployment goes up
-Cash for Caulkers = Failure
Can hardly wait for this a$$ clown to ruin our health care..
Hope & Change!
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Now the actual truth: the bank bailout money has been for the most part paid back to the government with interest. The banking sector is surprisingly healthy. A VERY far cry when the Obama administration took it over. The GM takeover and auto industry bailouts were surprisingly successful. And now with #1 auto importer Toyota on the ropes because of poor workmanship, the auto bailout program could not have come at a better time. The Cash for clunkers program took a huge amount of polluting autos off the road and replaced them with new less polluting vehicles and kept jobs from evaporating. Anyone would consider this program an unbridled success unless you want a filty environment and higher unemployment. Looking at the conservative Republicans here. And Actually, the uneumployment rate went down last month. Here is some other economic news just released today:
March 30 (Bloomberg) — Consumers in the U.S. gained confidence in March as the gloom over job prospects began to lift, indicating employment will be central to preserving the recent acceleration in spending.
The Conference Board’s confidence index rose to 52.5, exceeding the median forecast of economists surveyed by Bloomberg News, from 46.4 in February, according to figures today from the New York research group. Home prices unexpectedly rose in January for an eighth month, data also showed.
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Home prices up slighty, consumer confidence up, unemployment down. The economy is in a MUCH BETTER PLACE in just 14 months compared to when the new administration took over. I mean even the most ignorant stupid blind idiot can see that. Oh right, we’re talking mistabrOwn here.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Last year was the perfect time to develop a running game. They had a green QB & WR’s, loaded with running backs.
But, nope. Al Davis’ call. These are the kind of strategic decisions that players and coaches of the Raiders have no control of. So, they collect a paycheck, instead.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Anthony Davis
He’s supposed to be making league execs rethink their draft boards, and they just may be. The tackle-needy Seahawks are here, as well are the Redskins, Chiefs and Jaguars, all with multiple scouts, all here to watch Davis. But Davis is miles away in his hotel room, battling a stomach virus and a bum hamstring, he says. It’s a seemingly legitimate excuse – you can’t register a good 40-yard dash time when you can barely make it from bed to bathroom – but the invisible man act hardly has coaches pleased. It’s yet another blemish for a once-promising NFL draft prospect. When Davis decided in December to forego his senior year at Rutgers, the 20-year-old was instantly coveted as the top blindside protector in a class loaded with quality offensive tackles. Scouts saw a vicious blocker with ultra-quick feet, and Davis seemed like a lock to become the highest draft pick in Rutgers history. But the player once considered a surefire top-10 pick is now battling questions about his demeanor and desire. Add in a handful of suspensions – a one-game penalty for a violation of team rules in 2008 and a one-quarter suspension for being late to a team meeting in 2009 – and now Davis’ stock is falling, perhaps to the bottom of the first round. He hopes to stop the freefall when he holds a private workout on Tuesday, but scouts already have clouded opinions of the 6-5, 330-pound lineman. “I think he has the tools to be a very good player,” says scouting guru and former Cowboys personnel man Gil Brandt. “He has a lot of upside; he’ll make some squad very happy or he’ll be a disappointment.” – Ebenezer Samuel, NY Daily News
March 30th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Which one of those guys was the one Al Attles came off the bench and punched?
Could you imagine that today? Doc Rivers coming off the bench and punching Pau Gasol?
March 30th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
Dez Bryant
Scouts will finally have a look at Oklahoma State’s Dez Bryant when the wide receiver holds a full workout at Lufkin High School in Texas on Tuesday, March 30 at 11 a.m. CT. A hamstring injury kept Bryant, who is Mike Mayock’s top wide receiver prospect in this year’s draft, from taking part in the NFL Scouting Combine, as well as Oklahoma State’s pro day. Bryant, who skipped his senior season to enter the draft, missed the final nine games of his junior year after being suspended by the NCAA for lying about a visit he had with his mentor, NFL Network analyst Deion Sanders. Bryant hasn’t performed in front of scouts since a Sept. 19 game against Rice. – Gil Brandt, NFL.com
March 30th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Seymour, it doesn’t matter to me if Obama accomplishes absolutely nothing. The way he’s got racist white people going over the f’n edge is priceless. Far as I’m concerned, he’s delivered. Palin can win in ‘12. Because between now and then I’m certain racist white people are going to provide is with more entertainment than P.T. Barnum could in a lifetime.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
# Mistabr0wn Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Barback 0bamas accomplishments:
-Bank takeover = Failure
-GM takeover = Failure
-Cash for clunkers = failure
-Job Stimulus = Unemployment goes up
-Cash for Caulkers = Failure
Can hardly wait for this a$$ clown to ruin our health care..
Hope & Change!
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Now the actual truth: the bank bailout money has been for the most part paid back to the government with interest. The banking sector is surprisingly healthy. A VERY far cry when the Obama administration took it over. The GM takeover and auto industry bailouts were surprisingly successful. And now with #1 auto importer Toyota on the ropes because of poor workmanship, the auto bailout program could not have come at a better time. The Cash for clunkers program took a huge amount of polluting autos off the road and replaced them with new less polluting vehicles and kept jobs from evaporating. Anyone would consider this program an unbridled success unless you want a filty environment and higher unemployment. Looking at the conservative Republicans here. And Actually, the uneumployment rate went down last month. Here is some other economic news just released today:
March 30 (Bloomberg) — Consumers in the U.S. gained confidence in March as the gloom over job prospects began to lift, indicating employment will be central to preserving the recent acceleration in spending.
The Conference Board’s confidence index rose to 52.5, exceeding the median forecast of economists surveyed by Bloomberg News, from 46.4 in February, according to figures today from the New York research group. Home prices unexpectedly rose in January for an eighth month, data also showed.
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Home prices up slighty, consumer confidence up, unemployment down. The economy is in a MUCH BETTER PLACE in just 14 months compared to when the new administration took over. I mean even the most ignorant stupid blind idiot can see that. Oh right, we’re talking mistabrOwn here.
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To say unemployment is down is a FLAT LIE
Yeah, its down from the high of 10.1 in Oct 09 but it is UP from the time Obama took office.
National rate was 7.7 in Jan 09.
National rate was 9.7 in Feb 10
http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&series_id=LNS14000000
March 30th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Vegas,
don’t recall who Attle’s took a swing at, it was brutal series. But being in the Arena that night of the seventh game against “Butterbean” and company, coming back from deficit with Barry hoisting up what woulda been 3’s nowadays and Silk and Clifford and George Johnson taking over inside, damn, the entire building was shaking and it was the loudest noise I ever heard (including Little Feat and The Who at Winterland).
March 30th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Unemployment will shoot right up to 20% on Palin’s watch and Raider75 will blame Obama. But he won’t blame Bush for the mess Obama inherited.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Racist white people are going to start a civil war anyway, I think. Got a feeling Barack’s going to be the last prez.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
I didn’t blame anyone.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Racist white people are going to start a civil war anyway, I think. Got a feeling Barack’s going to be the last prez.
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lol…just for the heck of it. Against who?
March 30th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Prepare for about a hundred or so comments telling you that the league is a passing league now, Pete. That’s what happens when you suggest we develop a running game.
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don’t you see ???
that’s the brilliance of my strategy…
after we pound the football flat… how are you going to throw it???
have you ever tried to throw a flat football ???
goes nowhere !!!
do you see the brilliance ???
what ???
really ???
oh…
i’ve been informed that there is more than one football at a football game…
!
never mind…
March 30th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Against who? Ask the victims of the Oklahoma bombing in ‘95, ass hole.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
Hey Pete you crazy mfr…How are you?
March 30th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
MR,
The U.S. citizenry is to blame for their situation. Their elected officials, bought and paid for (whoever is in power) by Topdollar Inc., are only a reflection of the swamp of ignorance the citizenry has chosen to follow.
If a group of people is dumb enough to allow advertising campaigns, talk show hosts and empty suits to guide their destiny then they are welcome to the crap they have to wallow in.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
RaiderLen Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
Hey Pete you crazy mfr…How are you?
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really good… we finally picked up a decent contract… and we’re starting to bring back our people…
it’s slow, but steady…
should be up to about 20 people within a month…
i should say… we were down to one guy…
me…
got lucky though… rented our old offices month to month for $1350…
we paid $4000 before…
so i am a happy camper…
March 30th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
That’s right, Lonetree, Americans deserve it. Only one of the right wing terrorists could have put it better. You are one serious ass hole.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Everything is nothing.
Nothing is everything.
-Siddhartha Gautama
March 30th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Whatever MR.
So the “Racists” are going to lauch a Civil war by Bombing unsuspecting innocent Civilians.
And Obama will be the last President because of it.
Got it.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
um… when you say “serious ass hole”…
are you using “ass hole” as a noun… or an adjective ???
i gotta know !!!
March 30th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Tell that to the victims of terrorism, Lonetree. People who live in a sheltered world like you, it’s easy for you to fall back on fruity little quotes. Ask the families of the Oklahoma bombing victims what these white homeland terrorists are capable of.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
MR,
right wing? me? you have got to be kidding or massively inobservant.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
M Lonetree Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Everything is nothing.
Nothing is everything.
-Siddhartha Gautama
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yeah… okay…
check this out:
time is what keeps everything from happening at once.
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i love that one !!!
March 30th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Pete,
Outstanding! I’m very happy for you.
Ya gotta love how the market at least gives something back regarding commercial properties.
Now, what does your draft board look like.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
“M Lonetree turns a blind eye to history” – Me.
Study that quote, ass hole.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
1. McClain
2. Dan Williams (if there)
around 5th Micah Johnson mlb
i love me some D !!!
March 30th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Florida Pete,
I always liked the one – Coincidence is God’s way of remaining anonymous.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Lonetree, you’re not smart.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
M Lonetree Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Florida Pete,
I always liked the one – Coincidence is God’s way of remaining anonymous.
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I’ve sometimes noticed that coincidence was very appropriatley timed.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
You’re not independent, either.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
MR,
do you know anything of history? It will tell you that all Empire’s fall.
Left wing. Right wing. They all fail. It is the human condition.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
M Lonetree Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Florida Pete,
I always liked the one – Coincidence is God’s way of remaining anonymous.
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very good !!!
but the best of all time:
how much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood !!!
now that’s philosophicating…
March 30th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
If a group of people is dumb enough to allow advertising campaigns, talk show hosts and empty suits to guide their destiny then they are welcome to the crap they have to wallow in.
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You got that right!
March 30th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Raider Len,
Perhaps Florida Pete will give the rightful dispensation with regards to time keeps everything from happening at once and the coincidence of appropriate timing.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
don’t forget the time-space continuum thingy…
March 30th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Florida Pete,
how much ground could a groundhog hog…ask McFadden when he trips over a hask mark.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Lonetree,
I think Pete summed it up with the woodchuck thing.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
JHill, you mention wallow, do you know my ex?
March 30th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
In the continuum there is time to space out.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
For the love of all that is football.
Please DMAC, pick up your feet and run.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Can someone here give a message to RR for me?
March 30th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
No morning people here?
March 30th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Pete, stillafter the MLB and DT.
Defineate needs.
I’d like to see that as well as some O line.
I like Micah Johnson later in the draft.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
860…whatcha got.
I can be online in the morning.
March 30th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
pick up some washed up 6′6″, 340 pound tackles and plug them in at guard…
pound them into submission…
March 30th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Thank’s Len, tell him to put me on the list with “Campbell”, I haven’t been able to get in here in the AM’s for a while, thanks again!
March 30th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Pete…We got those!
Walker, Barnes, where’s McQuistan?
March 30th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
i can see it now…
Michael Bush 40 rushes, 240 yards, 2 tds…
Mcfadden 20 rushes (yes, every third play), 60 yards, 1 td…
March 30th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Way to think, Pete!
March 30th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
exactly…
walker, barnes…
uh, mcquistan never was any good…
March 30th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
860, to clarify, your choice for the #8 selection Campbell.
Do I have that correct?
March 30th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
oh…
raiders win every week by the same score…
21-17…
March 30th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Florida Pete Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
exactly…
walker, barnes…
uh, mcquistan never was any good…
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F…ing mullett ginger. lol
March 30th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Yes Len, and thanks!
March 30th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
860, I’ll post it in the morning PST.
Take care.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Been working 12/16 hrs a day seven, sneek in when I can, we are getting pummeled with water here, 9″ in the last three days, 18″ this month, I work in the water industry…
March 30th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
860…the good news is…you’re working!
Hopefully there’s some over time in it for you.
If you’re young, you will bounce back quick.
Plus it will give you something to think back on when you’re older.
If you’re old already, it gives you something to gripe about now! lol
March 30th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
I’m a fan since 64, I was 9 then, but my retirement is based on my 3 best years!!!!!
March 30th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Been working 12/16 hrs a day seven, sneek in when I can, we are getting pummeled with water here, 9″ in the last three days, 18″ this month, I work in the water industry…
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you’re not the guy that runs around with a bottle tryin’ to catch that schit, are you ???
i never did get charging so much money for schit that falls from the sky…
March 30th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
860, That means that it needs to rain some more I presume.
So I guess mabey you could gripe all the way to the bank?
March 30th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
Have you guys noticed that alot of analysts do not think McClain is a good 4-3 MLB. They think he is a classic 3-4 ILB.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
Len, my tax rate here is 50%, I’m single, working in the most expensive state to live in, overtime is a constant, when we got privatized 15 years ago, our group went from 62 people to 26, trying to do the same and more. They would rather pay overtime than hire people and pay full benny’s, too bad….
March 30th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Aig…I’ve read those reports.
I’m not a Scout, so I don’t know what to believe.
Seems like a safe investment from a Proffessional Football Player standpoint.
How that all fits into what the Raiders are trying to accomplish on D, is another question.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
860
Not even the great billionaire Al Davis has a 50% tax rate, re-calibrate.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
860,
you live in the state where Stewart Resnick owns all the water rights and his wife runs the biggest bottled water scam there is?
March 30th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Kell, you drinking water? Fed is 38.5% state is 6/1/2%, fica is 4%. Get out your calculater and do the math, and use your left hand, please!
March 30th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
I don’t know if it is 50%, but Connecticut is one of the harshest taxed states in the unions.
Extra state taxes on purchases, extra taxes on investment gains. I’m sure 860 can tell it better than me.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Martha used to live here, So does Keith Richards…..
March 30th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Tea Bag Wack Jobs, talking about somebody working for the water dept in the 38% tax bracket.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Vegas, when i’m 62, that little place in Key West is lookin good!
March 30th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Len,
I like McClain alot. However my enthusiasm was tempered by those scout reports. He is a fine FB player though.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Tax burden here is decided if you are married, idiot. You couln’t attract someone to buy my place, that’s why you live in Calli, Kell…….
March 30th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
aig Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Len,
I like McClain alot. However my enthusiasm was tempered by those scout reports. He is a fine FB player though.
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Exactly.
What I want to read and hear about our #8 pick.
Can’t miss. Homerun. Great Choice.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
Income tax is determined by income, and 38% is the top bracket in the US, and I doubt you’re in it.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Can’t miss. Homerun. Great Choice.
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The only two I heard those about were Huff and Gallery.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Vegas…Yep lol
I still would prefer that to the groans of DHB.
You understand what I mean.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
We need to draft Spikes.
I don’t care what his 40 is, I know he covers 5-10 yards in a hurry.
And since he doesn’t need protection from some fat DT in front of him since he knows how to shed blocks.
Let’s not make the same mistake that we did with Mualauga…whatever, that drunk dude from on the Bengals
March 30th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Unfortunately he doesnt have the 40 speed Al adores. Sucks but it is what it is. Wouldnt it be something if Al trades up for Suh?
March 30th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Tea Bag Wack Jobs, talking about somebody working for the water dept in the 38% tax bracket.
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LOL
March 30th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Kell, when you get a real life, and support your wife, say something, otherwise, clamp it, no-nothing.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Man, that was a huge whiff on Mualuga, another fine FB player.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
aig Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Unfortunately he doesnt have the 40 speed Al adores. Sucks but it is what it is. Wouldnt it be something if Al trades up for Suh?
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I could see that happening before he would trade down, which is what he ought to do imo.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Either trade up for Suh or trade down and get an extra pick in the first 2 rounds. We should be looking for DT, OT, and MLB in the first 2 rounds. You guys follow this guy Geno Adkins from Georgia. He was supposed to be a beast and gave Iupati fits at the senior bowl.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
BoJacks Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Tea Bag Wack Jobs, talking about somebody working for the water dept in the 38% tax bracket.
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LOL
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860 said “They” were privatized 15 years ago.
Doesn’t sound like the water department to me.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
I think Spikes falls into the 3rd round.
And if we haven’t done anything at LB, I would be all over it.
For a potential late-round steal, I like the Sharpton kid from the U. When I watched them play, he had a presence, and strip it all down, he is still a MLB from the U. There is something to be said about that.
Probably could be had in the 5th round.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Aig, In real lfe, I cannot see Suh getting past 3, there are too many teams that can use his attributes. I can’t see a responsible Team letting him get through, and we are not the best looking team for him to come to, although we could use him. We should trade down and pick up some good looking talent, develope them, but immediately bolster out lines, ours truely suck! We have a decent team behind them, but our O-Line took out 3 QB’s in seven games?
March 30th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
Vegas, I don’t know anything about the Guy you speak of…But the Raiders have been pretty good in the recent past with later round picks.
Hopefully more of the same this year.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
I’ve had political discussions with 860 before. And that 50% tax rate comment was a political one.
Nobody working for hourly wages with their hands and back are going to be in the 38% tax bracket.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
# RaiderLen Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
BoJacks Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Tea Bag Wack Jobs, talking about somebody working for the water dept in the 38% tax bracket.
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LOL
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860 said “They” were privatized 15 years ago.
Doesn’t sound like the water department to me.
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BTW….no disrespect to anyone on the board…thought it was a general remark, not one targeted at anyone
March 30th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Daryl Sharpton I believe.
I think he is a cousin of the great Rev. Al Sharpton.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Len, when I was hired, we worked for the city, the city came under financial pressure and privatized us to a private company to run the water and sewer works. Google Privatization.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
38%?! So…it went up by 3% for 2010. I hate Taxes over 20%!
March 30th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Kell, my PHD will send you into a tizzy, don’t try to rationalize it, your a house salesman, er, househusband.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
Vegas,
If Daryl has anything closley resembling the rap of Al Sharpton….I want Him on the Team for the quotes!
March 30th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Privatization of public goods has been the downfall of this country. Cut the staff, raise prices, and milk the taxpayers.
Does Easy Bay Municipal District still exist or is everything PG&E now?
March 30th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Raider O, you’ve actually never earned 6 figures before, go to H/R Block, they will explain it to you.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
38%?! So…it went up by 3% for 2010. I hate Taxes over 20%!
I like it to be:
0- 49,999 : 10%
50,000- 99,999 : 20%
100,000- 199,999 : 30%
200,000- 999,999 : 35%
1,000,000 + : 40%
March 30th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Len, when I was hired, we worked for the city, the city came under financial pressure and privatized us to a private company to run the water and sewer works. Google Privatization.
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Got it. The Government can’t handle their business.
Evidence. 62 employees to 26. Same service, lower overhead.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
EBMUD is still around.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
35% IS the current highest tax bracket, federally
March 30th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
860,
I never made 6 figures, but Im studying taxes this semester. What’s your point?!
March 30th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Kelli’s TurboTax gets done in minutes…
Income from sales: $0.00
Business incurred expenses: $39.99 web hosting
Remember that when you cook dinner for your wife tonight, Kelli..and when you draw her bath…
I mean..there’s no shame in you doing nothing while your wife works…….
Ok, I lied.
there is.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Yes Len, but more taxing on the employees. At one stretch, we went 16 months of 12 hour days, seven days a week, no days off except for a funeral for a family member. That is real life.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
Vegas, figure income from investments, you are wrong.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
EBMUD has a AA bond rating. That has to be about the highest in the state.
Hell the state GO’s are BBB these days, on the fringe of a junk rating.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
860,
I am going off of this. Tell me where it is wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_in_the_United_States
March 30th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
860,
Explain what to me?
March 30th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Yes Len, but more taxing on the employees. At one stretch, we went 16 months of 12 hour days, seven days a week, no days off except for a funeral for a family member. That is real life.
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That is brutal.
You’d think that 5 more employees could have at least taken the edge off.
Is this a pure money grab by the Company, or are there other circumstances that would make this understandable?
March 30th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
860,
You are right. Suh should not fall past 3. Frankly, I’d take him #1 overall. But one can always wish that Detroit trades with Al and move to 8. At 8, Detroit can still get an Olineman. Plus if Al will for sure give them a 2nd or 3rd to go along with that at the very least.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
the highest tax bracket for fed income tax was 35% for 09. Corps are different.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
860
Investments are taxed separately, on the profits of those investments. The Capital Gains Tax max rate is 15%
March 30th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Quickly, once you make over a certain ammout on your earnings, investments, your tax rate increases, without writeoffs, and puts you into the 38.5% bracket, for federal taxes, plus 6.5% state taxes on all income earned, add it up! Plus add in FICA, annother tax.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
You don’t fix the MLB until you fix the DT/NT. You will frustrate yourselves needlessly.
The gap between a 1st round MLB and Kirk Morrison is fairly narrow…the difference between 1st Rd NT and “WHO’S IS PLAYING NT AGAIN?!?”, well that person…is much bigger.
The Ravens are considering adding more D-Lineman…you guys are talking about more athletic “playmakers” but totally ignore, or relegate to some 4th round pick, the NT position.
Draft your MLB! HE WILL FAIL! You have no NT! CAn’t you see this?
March 30th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
LT Cap Gain was 15% for 2009.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
And spare me the BS that NTs are always deep. B.S….why not draft the MLB in the 3rd or 4th and take the NT in the 1st.
The Raiders haven’t had an NT in 7 years….even the Steelers and Colts tools NTs in the 1st round last year….every team beefs up the lines…
In Oakland, its always fleet footed pass rushers and skill players.
And hence you have the softest touch defense in the NFL
March 30th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Aig, I agree, but I’m truly not holding my breath, unless the old fox has something up his sleeve, like letting everyone think he wants a washed up QB?
March 30th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
860,
From 2005 to 2007, I was in the max bracket plus CA of around 10%. I was self employed and boy I was in for a surprise when it came to paying the IRS. It is extremely dangerous to make a lot of money and be self employed. You have a tendency to forget the big tax bill at the end of the year. It was fun to have FU money for a few years though.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
You guys need to layoff the ESPN highlights.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Desmond Bryant, 290lbs and William Joseph are not NTs.
Neither is Suh or McCoy.
Your NTs are guys like Dan Williams and Terrence Cody
March 30th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
I sure would like to see Al have one last hurrah though. Wouldnt be surprised if Al pulls another stunner this year. Prob is we just never know.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
860,
I was talking about fed tax only, and I didn’t know that FICA wasn’t part of fed tax. ( I know it’s diff for self employment)
March 30th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
SnB, and the softest touch O-Line in football. Our QB’s enjoy 1.3 sec’s before they are hit!
March 30th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Jay Ratliffe was a 7th round pick and was a Pro Bowl NY within a year or two.
It’s all a crap-shoot SnB, it don’t matter what position we draft IT IS THE PLAYER that matters.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Raider O, I recently came from my CPA, trust me on what I have to pay, with Obama, it’s sure to go up!
March 30th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
SnB,
Suh and Eric Berry are about as close to sure thing as there are in any draft. I like Dan Williams. I watched a lot of Vols here in Memphis. Dan is a fine player. Another good Vols is their RB Hardesty. However Dan Williams doesnt carry his team like Suh can. Both Cody and Suh played Texas and Suh proved he is the best player in this year’s draft.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Dan Williams could be a flop, Brandon Spikes could be one of the best players in the draft.
Bruce Campbell could end up better than Russell Okung.
You never know. But one of these days, can we be on the right side of these equations!!!!
March 30th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Well Al has been whiffing on those big swings. The rule of probability says we are due to make contact on those big Al Davis HR swings.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Vegas, what are the odds on Campbell, he’s from here?
March 30th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
860,
Good for you sir. Did you pass your 1st time? I’m thinking CFA or CPA, but I’m not sure.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
860, Honestly I am the last guy to break down O-line technique. I see he is from New Haven (home of Yale). Maybe he is a bright dude.
I just know that there is these combine warriors every year, and the rate of them flopping is much higher than them panning out.
I pray Al doesn’t take him.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
I like to do both investments and portfolio management. I’m thinking about getting my MBA from Haas (UCB) or UCLA, and then go for a CFP or CFA.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
The Oakland Raiders have drafted 5 DTs since 1999, and only 1 was a 4th round pick, the rest 6th rounders
Anntaj Hawthorne, 6th Round 2005
Chris Cooper, 6th Round 2001
Junior Ioane, 4th Round 2000
Roderick Coleman, 5th Round 1999
Daren Yancy, 6th Round 1999 – Never played a down
Only Coleman proved any worth at all and he was dispatched from here.
You wonder why your team is so soft!
No investment at all in this position
How many CornerBacks have we drafted?
March 30th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
I passed, but to protect assets from my ex, there is a lot that has to not be seen, because here, she can reopen for modification, as she has, my son is 20 yrs old, in college, and will graduate in two years, then she can’t touch me. I’d rather give it to the Gov than her.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
You can’t rely exclusively on late round picks and UFAs for a position as important as the NT.
Only 1 DT drafted since 2005
March 30th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
Don’t become a bean-counting monkey!!!
March 30th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
SnB,
The same can almost be said about our MLB’s as well. Kirk and nobody else.
A DT, O-line guy and MLB should each be picked somewhere through the first 5 rounds.
But you know there will be a DB and/or maybe a Carlos Dunlap or Javhid Best in the 2nd round.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
SnB, the opposition shouldn’t even get through our lines, our lines are so given and soft, opposition doesn’t even have to watch film, the’ve known us for 7 years!
March 30th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Did McGlocton and D Russell burned Al Davis so much that he is refusing to pick up another one so high?
March 30th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
If coaches aren’t allowed to hold players accountable, what difference does it make about who they draft, they can’t develop them.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
Aig,
Gettign burned by bust after bust didn’t stop Al Davis from drafting DB after DB after DB
March 30th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Everything is sooo Top Secret with the Media. Yet opposing coaches know The Raiders playbook better than they do.
I don’t get it.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Republican’s going after younger contributers in Dominatrix Clubs?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/30/us/30gop.html?src=mv
^^^^^^^^
Figures!
Those freakin hypocrite, greedy GOP Republicans!
LOL
March 30th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
well said SnB, but our lines broke JR, plus his youth, he may rebound with something other than this oppressive O-Line, they didnt even protect our other Qb’s, at least JR was standing at the end.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
860,
The repeat failures of draft picks and expensive free agents at DB, OL and LB has led to the total neglect of the DT position.
We are constantly trying to fix and re-fix these other positions that there is no attention paid to the DT.
Tommy Kelly – UFA (and he’s no difference maker)
Desmond Bryant – UFA
Gerard Warren – Dump off from our arch-rival Broncos
Terdell Sands – 7th round, NFL Europe K.C Chiefs
No investment
March 30th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
The Raiders have to be the easiest team in the NFL to prepare for.
The 2010 draft pick will not change that!
March 30th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
860,
What happened to the O-Line. Just 2 years ago they were getting praise and Tom Cable was elevated to the Head Coach position.
I wish the Raiders had a D-Line coach as head coach
March 30th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Al Davis doesn’t hire Defensive Head Coaches.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
SnB,
good point. so true.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Davis worshipers do not want the Raiders to win. They just want Al Davis to have “one last hurrah”. This doesn’t necessarily have to be a victory on the field. Al can win a court case. Al can fire someone. Anything to get any kind of glory for Al Davis. Now you know what these guys are all about. The rest of us just want to see the Raiders win, with or without Al. And, Al’s worshipers are right. Al Davis isn’t down there on the field missing tackles and blowing assignments. Well, at last I checked, Al Davis never ran for a 70 yard touchdown in a Super Bowl, either. So fug him.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
If the Gym-Rat or JaDavis is going to be the starter…the only chance of victory is for a defense that keeps the score close and stops the run….get a couple a couple of run block 1st guys to try and open holes for the running game.
There is little reason to get excited about two no-nothings like JaDavis and the Gym-Rat
March 30th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
SNB,
You don’t think DT’s Lamarr Houston, Terrance Cody, Cam Thomas, Geno Adkins or Troupe would be good 2nd or 3rd Round picks?
March 30th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
I think our only hope is for our offense to score more points next year. This team isn’t ready to be a great defense, they are too predictable and uncreatinve to be a great defense.
If our offense can get a few less 3 and outs, and a few more TD’s instead of FG’s and our defense might have a chance.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
Disagree SnB …
You could LITERALLY look at about 5 or 6 plays each game that the defense as a whole just broke down. Those big plays for TDs that we gave up were killers. There were no methodical marches down the field against our defense.
I don’t think it’s any coincidence that Morrison and Howard have basically been replaced. Also, Chris Johnson’s days of getting torched are probably also over with the Routt tender.
Those things don’t have DT written on it anywhere.
And the 5 big plays a games (out of how many?) are what kills our defensive stats. Much different than under Ryan when it was 5-8 yard gains all day everyday PLUS the big plays.
Fix the offensive line! The best defense is a good offense!
March 30th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
SnB,
It does help to have a QB back there that at least know the play. However, it doesnt matter who the heck is back there if the opposing team arrives at the same time as the QB completes his drop step.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
DKnight007 Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
SNB,
You don’t think DT’s Lamarr Houston, Terrance Cody, Cam Thomas, Geno Adkins or Troupe would be good 2nd or 3rd Round picks?
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DKnight007,
I don’t know enough about these players. I just refer to general rankings. When you say, “Adkins or Troupe would be good 2nd or 3rd round picks”…I say why not “(insert MLB or OT name would be good 2nd or 3rd round picks”
Run defense, for a points challenged offense, is critical in my opinion. Got to get off the field on 3rd and 3….but when you average 5 yards per carry on defense….your defense just gets ground into fine dust….the opponent is going to run the ball because they know our offense is bad…so why risk a turnover or a quick 3 and out against our decent pass defense….like the Eagles foolishly did last year.
I just think next year will be more of the same. Unless we get McNabb, an offense led by JaDavis or Gradkowski is not going to score points…..so we better stop somebody
March 30th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
SnB, Cable is not the guy, what he does good is O-Line coach. This team has no one to be responsible for getting it done, because AD runs everything, and everything is getting away from him. I’ve noticed since the late 80’s that our Defence has gotten so “Light”, that they can’t make a tackle, bounce off of a 6′7″ tight end making an easy reception, at our cost, speed has killed the RAIDERS as I know them. My RAIDERS punished teams into believeing into the Raiders way of thinking. Teams used to want to be Raiders, College kids came off the bus wanting to be Raiders, 40 times have killed this team! The Giants and Steelers adopted our lines from the early eighties and look where their at. We are still a team in regreneration.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
This team isn’t ready to be a great defense, they are too predictable and uncreatinve to be a great defense.
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I thought our defense towards the end of the year was NOT predictable at all. Well in a traditional Raider sense that is. Blitzes and zone coverage were everywhere. I thought Marshall did a pretty good job, and I really look forward to seeing this defense in year 2.
The 3 safety look with Mitchell on the field attacking the LOS was NICE! Wimbley, Scott, and Mitchell all attacking???? Not predictable at all, IMO.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Al Davis’s offense only has 6 plays, AIG, so that shouldn’t be a problem.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
aig Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
SnB,
It does help to have a QB back there that at least know the play. However, it doesnt matter who the heck is back there if the opposing team arrives at the same time as the QB completes his drop step.
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AIG, I hear you. But one thing this McNabb thing, and the comments by posters here has taught me is how low the bar is at QB.
There is no logical reason to expect a Gradkowski to be a top15 QB….or top 20
Its just hope and prayer…2 games can’t be the difference.
Somehow, someway…the Raiders have to ratchet up the standards of the QB position away from these fringe guys and burnouts.
It bothers me that Al Davis has developed a QB in 35 years….
That’s why I am huge on the defense…a tough defense gives us a chance.
Today, without a REAL QB, we dont’ stand a realistic chance…that’s been the consistent theme these last 7 or 8 years…and the 10 before Gannon
March 30th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
My preference this draft:
Rd.1: Rolando McClain ILB- The definiton of a coach on the field. Nick Saban, a defensive guru, has stated that he is one of the best players and pro prospects that he has ever coached. Is stout against the run, called the defense on the field, great football IQ, consistently takes the proper angles, great form tackler, can deliver the big hit, great work ethic, sheds blockers, uses hands well, excelled against elite competition.
Rd.2: Bruce Campbell OT- Surprise!!! With players like Williams, Davis, Okung, Bulaga, Pouncey, and Iutapi all OL and all ranked ahead of Campbell, and you may even be able to add Ducasse to that list at either OT or OG i feel teams looking at Bruce’s tape may opt to look elsewhere. This is just the team for Bruce to come to, he should be able to acclimate to the Hybrid ZBS power blocking system i believe we are implementing and Cable will pay special attention to him. He has extremely long arms and fantastic athleticism. Has not only weight room strength but functional strength, with outstanding “feet’ for a lineman.
Rd.3: Cam Thomas DT- I think this guy is highly undervalued. He is a great run defender and has fantastic athleticism for someone that is 6′4″ 330lbs. Able to take on multiple blockers, is a good bull rusher, and plays with a chip on his shoulder. Had a good Senior Bowl week but not a lot of game tape to validate him as a better prospect. Has long arms and will command a double team on size alone. Can play in a 3-4 or 4-3 in the event we have a DE with their hand off the ground. With some consistency could be a real steal.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
SnB …
Up for some “film” review?
March 30th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Vegas, we don’t score more points til we get an NFL O-Line, period!
March 30th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
aig Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
SnB,
It does help to have a QB back there that at least know the play. However, it doesnt matter who the heck is back there if the opposing team arrives at the same time as the QB completes his drop step.
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It would help if the QB completed their drop in less than five seconds.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
SnB,
here you drag me into McNabb again….
I have been thinking seriously about McNabb and here is the picture I have in mind….
Last year, he was not able to make adjustments against our pass rush. He struggled because he didnt have time and he got sacked a bunch of times.
Now, imagine him behind our current Oline, it aint going to get any better.
Yes the bar is low but it’s because of losing for 7 straight years. We are the laughinstock of the league now. Reality sucks. Hopefully Al finally addresses the lines this year.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Sev, we would of gone to the Super Bowl with 5 seconds, lmfao!
March 30th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
860,
My thoughts are aligned with yours on post 500.
The old Raiders were not this. On the contrary, they were very physical…and on defense…they weren’t all these speed demons….you had football players that intimidated and played physical.
This stuff we have here is hard to win with unless you have the Colts offense…and for all their efforts they still only have 1 ring
March 30th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
SNB
With Grads at QB our only hope is to hold every opponent under 17 points and have at least 2 takeaways and 3 very good returns a game.
With Jamarcus, unless he has drastically improved, there is no hope.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
severeraiderz Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
My preference this draft:
Rd.3: Cam Thomas DT- I think this guy is highly undervalued. He is a great run defender and has fantastic athleticism for someone that is 6′4″ 330lbs. Able to take on multiple blockers, is a good bull rusher, and plays with a chip on his shoulder. Had a good Senior Bowl week but not a lot of game tape to validate him as a better prospect. Has long arms and will command a double team on size alone. Can play in a 3-4 or 4-3 in the event we have a DE with their hand off the ground. With some consistency could be a real steal.
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He’s not undervalued. This league is starved for NTs….Look at all the guys that got franchised or got very lucrative deals.
If this guy is a beast, he’s a 1st round pick.
He’s no better than any other 3rd round pick.
It just shows that the priority in Oakland remains on the “Back 7″ and not on building the lines
March 30th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
SnB, look at the Colts O-line, nuff said, Night all! Late here, up at 4 am! Raiders!
March 30th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
jhill Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
SnB …
Up for some “film” review?
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Maybe later this week….I’ve seen plenty of runs around the corner, bad angles for Morrison, and softness up the middle….I am sure we would end in stalemate again.
But here are a couple of facts.
Gerard Warren and Terdell Sands sit home
Kirk Morrison sits unclaimed with a modest 3rd round tender.
Something is wrong…..the offense is broken….we need to fix this defense
March 30th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
SnB, look at the Colts O-line, nuff said, Night all! Late here, up at 4 am! Raiders!
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Peyton covers a lot of sins. The Left TAckle position there is an area of concern
March 30th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
aig Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
…….Last year, he was not able to make adjustments against our pass rush. He struggled because he didnt have time and he got sacked a bunch of times.
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Last year teams basically knew that the Eagles would abandon the run very early and rely completely on their passing game.
We were able to get so much pressure on Mcnabb because we didnt have to guess was it pass or run, we already knew.
Mcnabb was able to take his team to the playoffs with virtually no running game, a rookie reciever, a second year reciever, and Jason Avant.
This is the same QB that made Kevin Curtis look like the man, he is a leade and will hold plyers accountable.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
severeraiderz Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
SNB
With Grads at QB our only hope is to hold every opponent under 17 points and have at least 2 takeaways and 3 very good returns a game.
With Jamarcus, unless he has drastically improved, there is no hope.
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The standards in Oakland for QB play is at an all-time low.
Could you imagine any team standing tall with these two going into the season?
The Raiders have managed to have the worst QB grouping in the NFL.
Think about most likely. Most likely our offense will struggle throwing the ball…our leading receiver with 30 catches…and a team at the bottom in scoring.
So we better stop the run on defense
March 30th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
THank goodness Dez Bryant ran a 4.55
March 30th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
Warren was cut because of his salary and age. Not to mention the young guy behind him Bryant. We don’t play the 3-4 man.
Tell me the name of the boss NT that plays for NO or Indy?
In fact, how did the 4-3 NT Haynesworth work out for Washington? They are picking ahead of us!
Give me a 4-3 NT you would like to have on our squad SnB?
March 30th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
SNB
If this guy is a beast, he’s a 1st round pick.
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Plenty of guys that are beasts that wont be first or second round picks, Mike Williams immediately comes to mind. Darryl Clark is someone else that is a beast that will fall through the cracks and be a damned good player. Troy Smith was my number one QB the year he came out and besides Kolb there isnt a QB in that class that i would take over him right now. Your ability to be a good football player and where you are projected dont always synchronize; see Jamarcus Russell
March 30th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
# RaiderLen Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Whatever MR.
So the “Racists” are going to lauch a Civil war by Bombing unsuspecting innocent Civilians.
And Obama will be the last President because of it.
Got it.
^^^^^^^^
Yeah….and then the white racist right wing militia groups will try and blame their terrorist act on Muslim extremists.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
THank goodness Dez Bryant ran a 4.55
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Yeah, thank goodness…..cause he will just wind up being more productive his rookie year than DHB was and will wind up being a better pro as well.
Sheesh….
March 30th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
People who warned of middle eastern terrorism in the ’90s were brushed aside, too. The dismissive attitude toward white, American homegrown terrorists today is the exact same as that of middle eastern terrorists before 9/11. And, remember, white, right wing terrorists have already hit. Oklahoma. ‘95. And that was because they didn’t like a white liberal president. Look out.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
If you want to know why we need McNabb, watch the video on youtube called “from nfl quarterback to MAMGA king”.
It shows Jamarcus getting ready for some parade in his hometown.
It involves a plush velvet, “royal” robe, an idiot reporter, and the further murdering of the English language by our “college educated” QB.
Yeah, you read that right, ALL HAIL KING JAMARCUS!.
Pardon me now while I go and vomit.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Severe,
You are missing the point. it’s not about the Eagles. The point is our current Raider Oline SUCKS. Unless we improve our current line and I dont see any light at the end of that tunnel, McNabb or Favre will not do anythign here.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
The Raiders consistently get poor QB play regardless of the QB.
Gannon/Gruden excepted, they ran the West Coast Offense.
Soon as they left Al went back to his old offense. It’s just doesn’t provide good QB play.
Deep patterns and straight drops.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
I remember when the signing of Jamarcus was being delayed reportedly because Al wanted certain perfomance and behavioral clauses in the contract that Russell and his agent wouldn’t go for. Many blamed Al, if those reports were true looks like the old man was right. Oh well I wanted CJ in the first and Troy Smith in the 3rd anyway lol
March 30th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
severeraiderz Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
aig Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
…….Last year, he was not able to make adjustments against our pass rush. He struggled because he didnt have time and he got sacked a bunch of times.
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Last year teams basically knew that the Eagles would abandon the run very early and rely completely on their passing game.
We were able to get so much pressure on Mcnabb because we didnt have to guess was it pass or run, we already knew.
Mcnabb was able to take his team to the playoffs with virtually no running game, a rookie reciever, a second year reciever, and Jason Avant.
This is the same QB that made Kevin Curtis look like the man, he is a leade and will hold plyers accountable
^^^^^^^^
Imagine McNabb with a good solid running game behind him.
Deadly….and the Oakland offense would be significantly better than what we have seen the last 3 years without a doubt.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Notice how Al does everything the opposite of what he did when we last won?
March 30th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
jhill Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
SnB …
Up for some “film” review?
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Maybe later this week….I’ve seen plenty of runs around the corner, bad angles for Morrison, and softness up the middle….I am sure we would end in stalemate again.
But here are a couple of facts.
Gerard Warren and Terdell Sands sit home
Kirk Morrison sits unclaimed with a modest 3rd round tender.
Something is wrong…..the offense is broken….we need to fix this defense
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i said that all night last night!!!
IF, IF, IF we get donovan then the offensive line must be addressed thru free agency. period! you cannot draft a ot in rd1 and expect him to protect mcnabb. i can only imagine that if a deal is going down and hue jackson has talked to his cousin about this that those are some of parameters that must be met if this deal is gonna happen…there are plenty of good free agent lineman out there who are much better than the guys we have now… kevin mawae, bobbi williams, marcus mcneill, just to name a few…..like we said last night land the big fish first tho!.. then with our first 2 picks in rd1 & rd2 we can address the defense… we need to be able to stop the run a mlb that can go from tackle to tackle and make stops… it must be rolando mcclain..6′4 255lbs smart aggressive football savy… then after that go for a dt… first & foremost tho we need to get this deal done so we can concentrate on FA oline help…
March 30th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
I think Dez will prove to be the best WR in the last 2 drafts. That guy is a younger version of TO and Anquan. He out jumps you, out muscle you, and he got great hands. His 4.55 will not make him a Raider though.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
AIG
Why not do both??? Draft a legit talent at OT and get McNabb, killing two birds in one off season. Picking up Mcnabb allows us to draft a guy like Tebow or Lefevour in the 3rd and let Hackett work his magic
March 30th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Al Davis is a fagg!
March 30th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
LMAO 860. Good luck with that bro.
Vegas,
I’m going to become a Rich Monkey!!
March 30th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Severe,
I agree. If Al will upgrade our Oline (like a legit NFL line) then i’m all for McNabb. I just dont think he can do both. I hope I am wrong.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
aig Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
I think Dez will prove to be the best WR in the last 2 drafts. That guy is a younger version of TO and Anquan. He out jumps you, out muscle you, and he got great hands. His 4.55 will not make him a Raider though.
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TO is faster than Dez even now lol. The difference between TO/Anquan and Dez is that the former are gym rats and do all that they can to get better. Dez showed up to his own workout for pro scouts, that i believed he delayed, out of shape and labored through some of the drills and didnt complete others.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
You can’t take a guy with a disease that could require him to lose a couple feet of his intestines at any time. Too big of a risk, IMO.
I’m still waiting for the an example of a 4-3 NT that we need on this squad? What team out there that plays a 4-3 has a 1st rd talent at NT?
Tommey Kelly, our 3 tech DT, isn’t going anywhere.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Notice how Al does everything the opposite of what he did when we last won?
^^^^^^^^^
Yep….he is a freakin old stubborn weirdo who has divided and alienated the fans of the Raider Nation.
He is idiotic….
March 30th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
You got a good point.
I’ll admit I saw him in a lot of games here in the South so my image of him is in FB games. It does make you wonder what the heck is up with his offfield antics.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Dez showed up to his own workout for pro scouts, that i believed he delayed, out of shape and labored through some of the drills and didnt complete others
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And can you believe the guy forgot his shoes?
HILARIOUS!
He’d still be the best WR on our team.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
jhill Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
You can’t take a guy with a disease that could require him to lose a couple feet of his intestines at any time. Too big of a risk, IMO.
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David Garrard has the same disease and has played just fine with it for a long time.
Doctors say that as long as he takes his pills, a reported 7 a day, he should be fine and it wont hinder him at all. He also has never missed a college ame because of it and played very well with it actually.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Picking up Mcnabb allows us to draft a guy like Tebow or Lefevour in the 3rd and let Hackett work his magic
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Tebow ????????
NEVER!
March 30th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Severe,
With OUR luck???
Too big a risk, IMO.
Rather take a flyer on Spikes in rd 3 or so. Even Micah Johnson a bit later, or the workout warrior LB who blew up his pro day we were at last week. Forgot his name.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
u guys. i had a relapse in my porn addiction ..
very depressing … fukkin clicked on sum free porn site and it was bad,,, i know i can kick this ..
March 30th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Lol, i fell ya but Tebow has a million times the heart of Jamarcus and has positional versatility.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
People who warned of middle eastern terrorism in the ’90s were brushed aside, too. The dismissive attitude toward white, American homegrown terrorists today is the exact same as that of middle eastern terrorists before 9/11. And, remember, white, right wing terrorists have already hit. Oklahoma. ‘95. And that was because they didn’t like a white liberal president. Look out.
^^^^^^^^
Yep…it’s about time the crazy right wing loonies start to show their true colors.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
why? in the fukk!! would u get mcnabb then draft a qb in the 3rd ? boy i tell ya, u guys get stupider every day . when we neeed oline and linebackers and a safety and another corner. and a d tackle.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Feel*
March 30th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
49er spy. get out of here ..
anyway . this new porn star .. amber cummings.. just ruined my cold turket try. maybe i should just look at victorias secrets mags and itl be like using nicotine patches.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Tebow is garbage, man.
Let him be someone else’s project.
He’s not a better QB prospect than anyone we have on the roster. He’s by far a worse QB than Jamarcus Russell. BY FAR!
He wouldn’t make the team over Meyers and Miller as a TE.
He’s not a better “versatile” player the Marcel Reese.
No way in HECK we draft Tim Tebow, lol.
Undrafted FA? Not even then.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
# jhill Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Dez showed up to his own workout for pro scouts, that i believed he delayed, out of shape and labored through some of the drills and didnt complete others
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And can you believe the guy forgot his shoes?
HILARIOUS!
He’d still be the best WR on our team.
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All that aside…looks like Bryant is ready to play in the NFL huh? haha
He would still be best WR on the Raider squad.
Ahh…these ridiculous combines and pro day workouts do still do not replace good old game film study…..to what a player can and can’t do on the field.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
why? in the fukk!! would u get mcnabb then draft a qb in the 3rd ? boy i tell ya, u guys get stupider every day . when we neeed oline and linebackers and a safety and another corner. and a d tackle.
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Because when Mcnabb is gone we dont want to have to start from scratch with a rookie that you have no idea on as far as his pro prospects. It gives us at least 2 years with his contract and the franchise tag to see what we have in a young signal caller I actually prefer Darryl Clark in the 4th to both of the Qb’s i mentioned.
We do not need a saftey right now, we have three that do a well enough job and would do better if we could stop the run
March 30th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
http://www.novamov.com/video/d76dfafd2f04f
we all know tim tebow is gonna go to sum city that enjoys good character christians like that . so hell be the 3rd string qb in washington next season . bet .
March 30th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
jhill Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
You can’t take a guy with a disease that could require him to lose a couple feet of his intestines at any time. Too big of a risk, IMO.
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Curtis Martin had a degenerative knee condition coming out of college. Scouts said don’t draft him because they would only get three years out of him. Bill Parcells said three years is a career in the NFL and selected him.
If a guy is going to give you three good years, then he’s worthy of a draft pick. How many good years have they gotten from JaMarcus so far?
March 30th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
regardless a mlb that can play immediatley and a dt must be addressed first & foremost if mcnabb is signed…work the oline help thru free agency..
March 30th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
All this being said….I would still rather have McNabb and TO for 3-4 years ahead of drafting Dez #8 overall.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
Still waiting on that example of a 4-3 DT that you “DT GUYS” want to replace Warren?
There has to be an example you can give us of a guy you’d like to see us have playing next to Tommy Kelly.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Where are all the guys who SWORE we should get Haynesworth last year?
How’s that work out for Washington?
March 30th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Id take Tebow over Jamarcus every day of the week. McNabb for a 2nd round pick is a steal. Al drafts projects in the 2nd round, 1 of 10 pan out. We will still have Cable as HC, yup the fat guy that wants JR to come in shape and whose offense produced 17 TDs in 16 games last year. So we are looking at 6 wins next season….out.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
I’m telling you people right now…..Dez Bryant dogged the workout because him, his agent, and a few of the better NFL teams (ahem Cowboys and Pats) that draft in the middle teens to early and mid 20’s want him to fall so they can take him or so they can trade up to get him.
Jerry Jones wined and dined Dez for a reason.
After seeing the workout….he didn’t look out of shape to me. He looked like he dogged some drills on purpose so his stock would fall!
March 30th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
jhill Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
Still waiting on that example of a 4-3 DT that you “DT GUYS” want to replace Warren?
There has to be an example you can give us of a guy you’d like to see us have playing next to Tommy Kelly.
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Tommie Harris. A quick penetrator/ 3 technique who can get some inside penetration and not just act as a blocking sled.
I think Kelly was supposed to fill the same role as Seymour and play end on run downs and slide inside on passing downs. But I think after he signed the contract he ballooned up in weight, and is now stuck inside.
Price, Odrick, and Atkins are later round options in this year’s draft.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
Jhill,
Warren was cut!! TK , Joseph, and Bryant are not the answer at DT.
Trade Up For SUH, or draft an OT in the 1st and a DT like L Houston in the 2nd.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
DKnight007,
If any agent told their client to dog it so they could drop in the draft, they would be taken out and shot.
Each slot a player drops means millions in lost cash.
Never,never,never.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
We have to fix the OL, DL, and add help at LB.
March 30th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
Check out this news:
http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/31/donovan-mcnabb-silver-and-blacklists-himself/
I don’t blame him i wouldn’t want to play for oakland either! lol!
March 31st, 2010 at 6:11 am
The Pope and Nancy Pelosi are on the same stage in Yankee Stadium in front of a huge crowd.
The Pope leans towards Mrs. Pelosi and said, “Do you know that with one little wave of my hand I can make every person in this crowd go wild with joy? This joy will not be a momentary display, but will go deep into their hearts and they’ll forever speak of this day and rejoice!”
Pelosi replied, “I seriously doubt that. With one little wave of your hand? Show me!”
So he backhanded her across her face.
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