The McNabb buzz: Pick your version
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, March 30th, 2010 at 7:53 am in Oakland Raiders.
The denials are coming in the same manner as the stories.
The Donovan McNabb-to-the-Raiders story is built on hushed whispers given in confidence, with Yahoo Sports! (Charles Robinson) and ESPN (Adam Schefter) leading the way with unnamed sources saying the Raiders are the leaders in the clubhouse for the Eagles’ quarterback and equally anonymous Raiders sources telling Steve Corkran there has been no contact between the teams.
A few possible scenarios:
A) Someone in McNabb’s camp is floating the Raiders as a primary suitor, knowing full well there will be no on-the-record public denial that comes from teams that actually deal with the media. It’s no accident the Raiders so often come up in free agency stories as an interested party _ and often are not.
This is perfect for the Eagles, who want the market to be rich with McNabb suitors and when asked about the Raiders interest, won’t say anything on the record but give a knowing nod and wink.
B) Al Davis wants McNabb and has explored the possibility, but has commissioned the Raiders denials as a way to drive down the Eagles asking price.
Let McNabb and his $11.2 million due bill this season marinate for awhile on the open market. As the draft approaches, and there are no other teams willing to cough up that kind of coin for a 2011 free agent, Davis could get himself a starting quarterback and not have to give up the No. 39 pick in the draft.
C) Davis’ inner circle is so tight that it’s possible for club employees to deny the story because they truly know nothing about it, and they’ve seen enough rumors come and go that never come to fruition to be comfortable in that assessment.
That leaves the possibility that both sides are right _ Davis is talking to the Eagles about McNabb and is the front-runner to land him, while the Raiders will have people in their own building who will be surprised when it actually happens.
D) It’s nothing more than a competitive media wildfire, with the the Raiders continuing disregard older talent and develop their own roster. McNabb will either wind up elsewhere or with the Eagles and the whole thing will at some point in the near future be yesterday’s “news.”
Whatever the reason, the McNabb story confirms what columnists and pundits have long known about covering pro football.
When in doubt, write (or talk) about the quarterback.
There’s an actual buzz around the Raiders for a change, and only time will tell if it is real or artificial.
I’m sure all things McNabb will be open for discussion for an on-line chat later today . . .
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March 30th, 2010 at 7:55 am
Go for it!
March 30th, 2010 at 7:55 am
Primero!
March 30th, 2010 at 7:55 am
D’OH!
March 30th, 2010 at 7:56 am
E) all of the above?
March 30th, 2010 at 7:56 am
Do something!
March 30th, 2010 at 7:57 am
jhill Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 7:52 am
Dez Bryant, Chaz, and Murphy would be just the career break that a guy like Bruce Gradkowski would need. Gradkowski would be a pro bowler with those 3 plus Bush and DMAC out of the backfield.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:58 am
Let McNabb and his $11.2 million due bill this season marinate for awhile on the open market. As the draft approaches, and there are no other teams willing to cough up that kind of coin for a 2011 free agent, Davis could get himself a starting quarterback and not have to give up the No. 39 pick in the draft.
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BS The only way McNabb will ever play for us is via a trade and being forced to, and then hope he is okay with it and re-signs.
Get Real!
March 30th, 2010 at 8:01 am
8th?
March 30th, 2010 at 8:02 am
I’m going to take a page out of Tom Cable’s play book …
We need to stay the course!
Fix the Oline, fix the Dline, and add a play maker.
Draft John Skelton in Rd 3.
Rd 1 – Dez Bryant
Rd 2 – Best ZBS OT on the board
Rd 3 – QB John Skelton
Rd 4 – Best fat fucc DT on the board
March 30th, 2010 at 8:03 am
Trade our 2nd round pick (unless you are afraid of losing that 5th round reach Al will use it for) for McNabb, cut Russell (he failed the offseason test, get him the fuk out of here) and save $18 million over the next two seasons. Use those savings to entice McNabb into a three year extension. Draft a tackle in round 1 and the best NT left in round 3, and the best G available in round 4.
What more can you ask for?
March 30th, 2010 at 8:04 am
Dakota Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 7:58 am
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BS The only way McNabb will ever play for us is via a trade and being forced to, and then hope he is okay with it and re-signs.
Get Real!
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Sounds like Seymour all over again.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:04 am
1st (NT) Dan Williams
2nd (OT) Campbell or Brown
3rd (C)Tennant
4th (G) Carter, Petrus or Lauvao
5th (MLB) Micah Johnson
5th (FB) John Conner
7th who cares?
7th who cares?
if we trade a 2nd rounder for McNabb …
1st (NT) Dan Williams
3rd (C) Matthew Tennant
4th (T) Calloway or Fox
5th (MLB) Micah Johnson
5th (FB) John Conner
and get a few guards in free agency.
Bobbie Williams, Randy Thomas, Shawn Andrews, Ben Hamilton are available. Or we could always re-sign Langston Walker?
March 30th, 2010 at 8:06 am
I think we all know Chaz is only good for abot 8 games. Had an injury history in college which is why he dropped to the what 7th round?
We can’t go with just Murphy again next year.
Dez Bryant at 8!
March 30th, 2010 at 8:11 am
why do you guys (Jhill & Dakota) want to wait until Round 3 or 4 to address the run defense?
what kind of player do you think we can get there to actually improve this unit during his rookie campaign?
Cam Thomas, Torrell Troup or Travis Ivey ???
big dropoff in talent after Dan Williams & Terrence Cody come off the board (in Round 1)
March 30th, 2010 at 8:14 am
Jhill: we went with youth at WR last year by replacing Ashley Lelie, Ronald Curry & Drew Carter with Heyward-Bey, Louis Murphy & Nick Miller
now that Javon Walker is gone we need a veteran mentor type, not another youngster for Sanjay Lal to develop
Muhsin Muhammad.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:16 am
Draft offensive and defensive linemen.
Forget about McNabb.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:19 am
RRS,
I just see the biggest issue with the team as the offense. And not just Russell. Oline and WR are in just as dire situations if not more than the QB position is.
At 8, you have to get an impact player first and foremost. I’d love for Suh, McCoy, Okung, or Trent Williams to be there, but I doubt they will be. Dez Bryant is the true #1 WR we need. There would be NO MORE 8 man fronts with Dez Bryant on the field.
Losing Cornell Green was step one. I like Barnes at RG and a guy like Ciron Black at RT. Just think the draft is deeper on the Dline and RT is a bigger need than NT.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:19 am
Kirk: are you expecting big things from JaMarcus this year or something ???
March 30th, 2010 at 8:21 am
Jhill: we went with youth at WR last year by replacing Ashley Lelie, Ronald Curry & Drew Carter with Heyward-Bey, Louis Murphy & Nick Miller
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Perfect #3, 4, and 5 WRs on the team.
Now get us a #1 with Dez Bryant!
March 30th, 2010 at 8:24 am
Just think the draft is deeper on the Dline and RT is a bigger need than NT.
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Suh, McCoy, Price, Houston, etc are all going to be great players, but none of them are true nose tackles imo
there are 5 in this draft and I listed them for you (post #14). Cam Thomas has potential, but thats a risky bet for a position that has been weak for 7 years and only William Joseph as a backup
I think you have to take Dan Williams or Terrence Cody at #8 and never think twice about it. run defense solved
March 30th, 2010 at 8:26 am
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March 30th, 2010 at 8:27 am
Chaz Schilens, Johnnie Lee Higgins, Darrius Heyward-Bey & Louis Murphy.
Jhill: one of these cats will emerge as a #1 WR with solid QB (and O-Line) play
no offense Jhill, but were you a fan of Matt Millen in Detroit? drafting WR’s in Round 1 when both lines are atrocious is a bad idea
March 30th, 2010 at 8:28 am
Check JaMarcus on YouTube and you will as disgusted as I was. This is why all the talk about a new QB… Just type:
From NFL Quarterback to MAMGA King
March 30th, 2010 at 8:30 am
chrisram73: who do you want the Raiders to draft in Round 1?
pick 1 player. any player!
March 30th, 2010 at 8:32 am
The consensus around the NFL is that Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford had an impressive Pro Day on Monday. But even as he agrees with that assessment, NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock is offering up a cautionary tale of why coaches and general managers shouldn’t fall in love with a player based on what he does in shorts and a T-shirt.
“Let me give you an example of the other side of it,” Mayock said this morning on The Dan Patrick Show. “The best Pro Day I ever saw as a quarterback was JaMarcus Russell. . . . I’ve never seen a quarterback throw the football like that in my life, but I still couldn’t take him in the first round — the guy doesn’t care about football. He doesn’t have the passion for the game, doesn’t have the work ethic, I don’t want him. But by the way, it was a pretty impressive Pro Day.”
March 30th, 2010 at 8:32 am
Let McNabb and his $11.2 million due bill this season marinate for awhile on the open market. As the draft approaches, and there are no other teams willing to cough up that kind of coin for a 2011 free agent, Davis could get himself a starting quarterback and not have to give up the No. 39 pick in the draft.
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My thoughts exactly Jerry Mac. well done!
March 30th, 2010 at 8:34 am
Forgot to source the article. Just posted on PFT.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:34 am
Best OT available, anyone except Campbell. They could take Campbell in the 2nd and I would not mind as much, but NO reaching with the top 10 pick.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:35 am
# Dakota Says:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:03 am
Trade our 2nd round pick (unless you are afraid of losing that 5th round reach Al will use it for) for McNabb, cut Russell (he failed the offseason test, get him the fuk out of here) and save $18 million over the next two seasons. Use those savings to entice McNabb into a three year extension. Draft a tackle in round 1 and the best NT left in round 3, and the best G available in round 4.
What more can you ask for?
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This would be a great scenario.
What is the #8 pick worth? Could the Raiders get a later round 1 pick plus a 2nd?
March 30th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Exla: Bradford, Clausen, Pike, LeFevour & Tebow will all be better NFL QB’s than JaMarcus Russell.
I’ll take heat for adding Tebow in with that grouping, but I honestly think that if he goes to a team like New England and rides the pine for 2 years he’ll be the best QB of this draft class …
March 30th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Mayock: JaMarcus Russell’s Pro Day a cautionary tale
Posted by Michael David Smith on March 30, 2010 11:23 AM ET
The consensus around the NFL is that Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford had an impressive Pro Day on Monday. But even as he agrees with that assessment, NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock is offering up a cautionary tale of why coaches and general managers shouldn’t fall in love with a player based on what he does in shorts and a T-shirt.
“Let me give you an example of the other side of it,” Mayock said this morning on The Dan Patrick Show. “The best Pro Day I ever saw as a quarterback was JaMarcus Russell. . . . I’ve never seen a quarterback throw the football like that in my life, but I still couldn’t take him in the first round — the guy doesn’t care about football. He doesn’t have the passion for the game, doesn’t have the work ethic, I don’t want him. But by the way, it was a pretty impressive Pro Day.”
Ultimately, Mayock said, teams can’t allow what they see in a workout to supercede what they see in game action.
“The tape work and the body of work in college has to take precedence,” Mayock said.
Fortunately for Bradford, Mayock says, his great Pro Day was only reinforcing his great play on the field at Oklahoma. And Mayock says that unless there’s a medical concern, there’s no reason Bradford won’t be the first overall pick in the draft.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:39 am
most likely all of the McNabb rumors are the progeny of blogger extraordinaire, JerryMc.
he was bored one day and decided to whisper a name, Donovan McNabb.
it grew legs in and filtered on to other media outlets.
but our Fearless Leader can never admit he has done so because then whatever credibility he has as a journalist would be gone.
yet, he must be laughing inside to see how the monster has grown and how many hits this site has had despite being a dead dead dead time of year.
good morning
March 30th, 2010 at 8:40 am
What is the #8 pick worth? Could the Raiders get a later round 1 pick plus a 2nd?
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75: it depends on where you want to pick in Round 1 & 2.
http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php
March 30th, 2010 at 8:40 am
I heard Todd McShay say those same things on the Herd this morning.
He said Russell had the best Pro Day he has ever seen and most likely will EVER SEE.
Said he really missed on Russell because Russell does not love the game.
Mayock will be in Lufkin, TX today for Dez Bryant’s private workout at Lufkin High School. Should be hearing some things about the WR later today.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Spring Break!!!!!
Legalize it!!
Word!
March 30th, 2010 at 8:41 am
RaiderRockstar,
Agree, but I don’t want to wait for a QB to maybe develop. Get McNabb and fix the lines. Playoffs. I don’t want to wait for the draft and have our chance to get a real QB snatched away.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:42 am
Rockstar,
as of the current moment Donald friggin’ Hollas was a better QB than JaMarginal was last year.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:42 am
M
Jerry was still on Vaca when the rumor started.. It was Adam donkey boy that started this… just sayin.. btw Good morning…
March 30th, 2010 at 8:42 am
Like Priest points out, he Mayock fails to mention his endorsement of Brady Quinn in rd 1.
Look, this is ridiculous. Russell’s stats in college had him as a damn near 70% passer. The tape and body of college work, ON TOP of the “best workour by a QB I’ve EVER seen” merits a 1st rd pick.
Hindsight, huh?
March 30th, 2010 at 8:42 am
Package McFelldown with a pick and get McNabb yesterday. Step two: draft for Oline. Step three: trade DMAC again.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Check out the girl sueing Santonio Holmes:
http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/getting-to-know-steelers-new-glass-receiver-28115
March 30th, 2010 at 8:44 am
408,
all it would take was a whispered phone call.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Dez Bryant, Ciron Black, and Hue Jackson = Jamarcus Russell back on track!
March 30th, 2010 at 8:45 am
-Trade for McNabb.
-Trade up for Suh.
-Draft OL, LB, DL, CB, and FB.
It’s not Rocket Science!
March 30th, 2010 at 8:46 am
I don’t want to wait for a QB to maybe develop. Get McNabb and fix the lines. Playoffs.
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me neither. I wasn’t suggesting that we draft a QB
just pointing out ANY of the Top 6 QB’s would be better than JaWalrus
and as M points out: so would Donald Hollas! haha
March 30th, 2010 at 8:46 am
ahhhh yes the telephone….
March 30th, 2010 at 8:47 am
RR, I would pick, just so you put me on your list ……….. Trade Up for Suh
March 30th, 2010 at 8:49 am
-Trade up for Suh.
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LOL O!
How do you propose us trading up for Suh? You think Det or Tampa Bay want Huff? You think Al wants to give up one his prozed first rd picks?
We are NOT getting Suh man. It actually WOULD be rocket science to pull that off.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:49 am
Dez Bryant, Ciron Black, and Hue Jackson = Jamarcus Russell back on track!
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Larry Fitzgerald, Jake Long and Bill Belichick couldn’t get Jamarcus Russell back on track …
March 30th, 2010 at 8:50 am
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March 30th, 2010 at 8:50 am
Has DMAC gotten Cable fired yet?
I’ll be asking that question repeatedly in October…
March 30th, 2010 at 8:51 am
Larry Fitzgerald, Jake Long and Bill Belichick couldn’t get Jamarcus Russell back on track …
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Oh yeah?!?!?
Prove it!
Get Long, Fitzgerald, and Bellichick over here and let’s see!
Make it happen!
March 30th, 2010 at 8:51 am
We are NOT getting Suh man. It actually WOULD be rocket science to pull that off.
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LOL. Very nice Jhill
March 30th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Get Long, Fitzgerald, and Bellichick over here and let’s see
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uh….
It actually WOULD be rocket science to pull that off too!
March 30th, 2010 at 8:55 am
lol …
semi pro bloggers … rocket scientists … pawn shop owner … business owners with more employees than you would believe …
Man, this is the spot!
March 30th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Preppie Car Industry Killer,
Thx for the nice words the other day. I really appreciate it.
BTW, it must have been really hard to say nice things about a BUCKEYE Fan! Almost as hard as finding descent Mich Fans. lol
March 30th, 2010 at 8:57 am
O-line, D-line, O-line, D-line, alternate the picks and move on.
After all we’ve got pro bowlers at LS, P and K to take up the lack of production at QB, RB, and WR.
Plus, the secretest of weapons – Nicky “Float like a butterfly and run like the wind” Miller.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:58 am
We Need Rocket Science!!
March 30th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Morning Nation
March 30th, 2010 at 9:00 am
I doubt we’re going to trade down, but just for the sake for arguement here is the “trade value chart”
http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php
8th pick is worth 1400 points.
say we traded with New England, so picks 22nd overall and has 3 picks in Round 2 …
22 (780) + 44 (460) + 119 (56) would slightly favor New England.
*** This would give us their 1st, highest 2nd and 4th rounders ***
22 (780) + 44 (460) + 47 (430) would slightly favor Oakland.
*** This would give us their 1st and two highest 2nd rounders, so they’d get to keep the 4th rounder and still have a 2nd left ***
March 30th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Raider O,
the Raiders tried that with Ismail and it didn’t really pan out.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:01 am
Thx for the nice words the other day. I really appreciate it.
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I am a huge fan of tireless efforts to…
LEGALIZE IT!
March 30th, 2010 at 9:01 am
DMAC,
can’t you start a rumor about trading yourself?
March 30th, 2010 at 9:02 am
I would swap 1sts with the Lions, give them the 4rd and 7th round picks, plus thomas howard, maybe just maybe could get it done, but dont think so
I was just saying who i Want (in order to get suh, Al would have to trade up), not what is gonna happen, chill
March 30th, 2010 at 9:02 am
Yay!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/detail?&entry_id=60198
March 30th, 2010 at 9:03 am
I’ll see what I can do.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:04 am
The Raiders are still very much in play for McNabb regardless of what Jerry Mac says. Word is that this year’s 2nd rd pick (#39) and this year’s first 7th rd pick (#215) are what the Raiders are offering.
This seems like a very real possibilty, no one else is offering a 2nd round pick this high and the fact that the Raiders are offering a later round pick to sweeten the deal seems to be what is setting them apart from other teams in play for McNabb’s services.
I am just happy that Michael Bush’s name is no longer being mentioned in this whole deal. I know everyone was talking about Nnamdi but, from what I have heard, Nnamdi was never a consideration, it was Bush’s name that was being thrown around.
Also Al is convinced that he doesn’t need a contract extension in place to make this trade. He thinks once McNabb is here they will be able to iron out a long term deal by 2011, in the same fashion as what is going down with Richard Seymour now.
Also Hiram Eugene signed his RFA tender and rumors persist that if the Raiders trade for McNabb that Al Davis will make a run at T.O.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Mark me down for Eric Berry…
March 30th, 2010 at 9:05 am
I think the Raiders could get one of the following at 22nd overall
Dan Williams, Terrence Cody, Maurkice Pouncey or Mike Iupati
then we’d have an additional 2nd rounder and either an yet another 2nd or 4th
3 picks in Round 2 could be:
OG Mike Johnson, C Matthew Tennant, OT Ciron Black
O-Line & D-Line solved !!!
March 30th, 2010 at 9:07 am
408Raider
I don’t think trading our first round pick for a second this year and a first next year is a very good deal AT ALL!
I would rather have a player now, and deal with the 2011 draft when it gets here. This team needs talent NOW, not later.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:07 am
Dogg,
So your sources are better than Corkran?
March 30th, 2010 at 9:08 am
I would swap 1sts with the Lions, give them the 4rd and 7th round picks, plus thomas howard, maybe just maybe could get it done
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we’d probably have to give them our 1st, 2nd, 4th and either Morrison or Howard
in other words: a king’s ransom!
March 30th, 2010 at 9:08 am
new post
March 30th, 2010 at 9:10 am
RaiderDogg,
good morning.
Your info seems plausible, as does the David White twitter that 408 just linked.
hmmm…interesting stuff this morning.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:13 am
Jhill
What is Corkran supposed to do? He reports what he is told to report, whether it is accurate or not and maybe he is not privy to the info that I have. Unlike Corkran, I don’t have to answer to anyone. I am not a journalist that has just been fed the company line.
I am just passing on info that has been passed onto me. The info I get from my friend has been reliable in the past although not always right on the money. For instance I kept hearing that a new HC was coming in to replace Cable and that just turned out to be the Hue Jackson hiring.
I am not saying McNabb is a solid deal that is going to happen for sure, what I am saying is that the Raiders are STILL VERY MUCH IN PLAY for McNabb’s services.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Dakota
Im not thrilled with the deal as much as the Raiders being open to the possibility of trading down.
Al will fugg up the 8 pick anyway so whats the big deal?
March 30th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Morning M, good to see your name on the screen.
I have yet to read David White’s tweets, I will check it right now.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:53 am
RaiderDogg, David White has better stories man, but i hate his blog setup jajajaja. I guess we are gettin offers for our 8th pick in this year’s draft.
March 30th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Raiders’ first pick in demand
As the Raiders reportedly look to trade for another veteran Pro Bowler, they are getting every opportunity to get back the premium pick they traded away in a similar deal last year.
An unnamed team has offered the Raiders a second-round pick this year and a first-round pick next year in exchange for the Raiders’ No. 8 overall pick. (Well, the team has a name, but our league source wouldn’t share).
That deal would allow the Raiders to get back in the 2011 first round after giving their pick to the Patriots in the Richard Seymour deal. (Lockout or not, there will be a draft next year, reportedly).
At least one other team has offered to swap spots with the Raiders. Perhaps this is evidence that the 2010 class is as good as advertised. People actually want back in the top-10 again.
So why haven’t the Raiders bit?
The Raiders simply do not have a history of trading down from its first-round perch. They’ll trade the spot away for a star player (Seymour, Randy Moss) but Raiders owner Al Davis doesn’t have a track record of moving down the order for another pick.
So what does this have to do with Donovan McNabb?
According to reports, the Eagles would want a top-42 pick for McNabb. The Raiders currently pick 39th in the second round. Let’s assume that’s what it would take.
If the Raiders were to accept the aforementioned draft trade, here’s what it could mean: they could give Philly their No. 39 pick, then use the other team’s second-round pick in April. And, instead of picking No. 8 overall in this draft, they’d have a first-round pick in next year’s draft. Nothing lost, just deferred.
Whatever the case with McNabb, if the Raiders want to trade their way back into the 2011 first round, they have been given at least one opportunity to do so.
** All this reminded me of the last time Davis spoke, after the Seymour trade. A reporter started to ask his thoughts of a rookie scale in 2011 even though he wouldn’t have a pick in the class, when Davis got a bit agitated.
“Don’t say we won’t pick in 2011. You’re wrong, you’re wrong, didn’t the 49ers take the first with Staley and the next year didn’t they do it again this year? So don’t make statements.”
** He said something else that could apply to these “alleged” talks with the Eagles. By giving up a first-round pick for a player in the last year of his contract, Davis suggested he was willing to do whatever it takes to get the player he wants.
“Sometimes you’ve got to overpay to get what you want,” Davis said in September. “But I didn’t overpay. I don’t think that’s overpaying at all. Sometimes you have to, you don’t always win the battle, the idea is to get the player.”
So, if McNabb is the player he wants to get, he will get him soon enough.
** One more thing: wonder why the Raiders haven’t leaked a word on this McNabb story?
“It’s usually a conversation with me on any trade,” Davis said in September. ‘Nuf said.
March 30th, 2010 at 10:03 am
Did NorcoBob get banned or something? Havent seen him in a few days…
March 30th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Who will Al draft with the 39th pick? A project/bust/track-athlete. McNabb with the 39th pick is a dammed steal from where I’m standing. Let Al draft his pathetic projects later in the draft. Pull the trigger!
March 30th, 2010 at 10:27 am
Question: If JaLardass is really 290 lbs., couldn’t the Raiders argue that he is not fulfilling the terms of his contract and fire him for cause. I mean, if a guy drafted to play QB at a professional level refuses to stay in shape, doesn’t that go against what he is being paid to do. Sounds like a Mr. Davis argument to me.
March 30th, 2010 at 10:33 am
Mario, that may work with non-unioned coaches, but I dont think Al could EVER get that to fly past the players union, unless there is SPECIFIC language that states what his maximum weight can be etc.
March 30th, 2010 at 10:51 am
If the Raiders did the deal where they gave up there 1st round pick this year in exchange for a 2nd rounder and a 1st in 2011, it would make total sense. It would make it easier to have more money to sign Seymour and Mcnabb, as opposed to giving tons of $$ to the #8 pick. Hopefully by 2011 there will be a rookie salary cap and that will save us even more money.
March 30th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Fire Sanjay Lal for cause!
March 30th, 2010 at 11:22 am
whas up nation!!!!!!
March 30th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Think about this why as Big Al not gone after Owens? Why, I will tell you why. Big Al wants McNabb. We all know what Big Al wants Big Al gets.
March 30th, 2010 at 11:24 am
i hope gradkowski gives up his # 5 for donovan man… i cant wait to get me one in BLACK#5 mcnabb…
March 30th, 2010 at 11:31 am
everyone that has purchased a #2 russell would have to burn it or be forced to take it off at all games home or away!!!! NEW RULE!!!
March 30th, 2010 at 11:37 am
Everyone should bring their #2 jerseys to the home game and whe “he” is introduced, collectively throw them all on the field…
March 30th, 2010 at 11:41 am
that would be funny…i dont even think charity would take them…
March 30th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
draft russell okung.then trade the pick,not #21…the defense would be worse without him.implement the wildcat for d-mac.bubble screens….quick outs for 7 yards on 1st down…the list goes on and on