Are four legs better than six?
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, April 1st, 2010 at 12:49 pm in Oakland Raiders.
We take a momentary break from Donovan McNabb talk to consider if the Raiders are better off having committed their running game to two backs rather than three.
A year ago, running back position was considered the deepest position on the team.
Darren McFadden, having recovered from the turf toes which derailed his rookie season, was being counted on as an explosive lead back. In theory, the Raiders would run the ball so often that Bush, having gained 177 yards in the 2008 season finale against Tampa Bay, and Justin Fargas, their leading rusher since 2003, would also get their share of carries.
Al Davis was intrigued enough by how the New York Giants got big numbers out of Brandon Jacobs (1,089 yards), Derrick Ward (1,025) and Ahmad Bradshaw (355) that offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride got a serious look at the head coaching job that went to Tom Cable, and no doubt was quizzed extensively on how he did it. The Giants led the NFL with 2,518 yards and averaged 5.0 yards per carry.
Instead, the Raiders running game fell from 10th in the NFL 124.2 yards per game) to 21st (106.3), a steady drop from their sixth-place finish (130.4) in 2007.
What happened?
McFadden got hurt again. This time he needed arthroscopic knee surgery which took four games away in the middle of the season. Two years into his career, McFadden’s health, as well as his ability to break tackles, are an open question. Bush led the Raiders in rushing with 589 yards and had the two best individual rushing games of the season (119 against Kansas City, 133 against Denver) but has privately coaches wish he was in better condition.
Fargas missed four games, two at the beginning of the season with a hamstring problem and the last two with a knee injury, and was released.
Cable indicated at the NFL owner’s meetings was the Raiders would be better off with two runners sharing the load rather than three, and that McFadden and Bush would compete for the starting job.
As far as 2009 was concerned, the two-are-better-than-three rationale didn’t wash in terms of stats.
In the eight games when all three running backs were active, Oakland rushed for 953 yards on 208 carries, a 4.6 average, and went 3-5.
In the eight games when either McFadden and Bush or Fargas and Bush were active, with the Raiders gained 747 yards on 202 carries, a 3.6 average, and were 2-6.
Gilbride is still in New York, while the Raiders new offensive coordinator is Hue Jackson, the quarterbacks coach in Baltimore last year when the Ravens had the league’s top two back system with Ray Rice (1,339 yards, seven touchdowns) and Willis McGahee (544 yards, 12 touchdowns).
In the end, the Raiders’ problems probably had more to do with training camp focus than the number of backs they used.
Cable was so intent on upgrading the Raiders passing game during training camp (unsuccessfully, until JaMarcus Russell was benched) Oakland lost its way on the ground.
They’ll need to rebound in that area to realize aspirations of .500 and beyond _ whether McNabb is the quarterback or not.
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April 1st, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Jerry hates McFadden too.
April 1st, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Get a decent QB and a new RT, RG and C and McFadden and Bush will dominate…
April 1st, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Teyo Johnson
April 1st, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Roland Williams
April 1st, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Man you guys were really flowing on last post, darn near named every Raider fron 1990 on! lol
I have to say I dropped the ball with fullbacks-Crockett,Rathman and Ritchie
April 1st, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Raghib Ismail, and Linebacker, back then they didnt know me now hoes all on me Mike Jones.
April 1st, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Eathan Horton
April 1st, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Trace Armstrong
April 1st, 2010 at 1:00 pm
That morman guy that refused to play with us….
April 1st, 2010 at 1:00 pm
bact then they didnt want me
April 1st, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Did anyone say Wheatly?
April 1st, 2010 at 1:02 pm
mormon?
April 1st, 2010 at 1:03 pm
The big Iowa flop at RB Nick Bell!
April 1st, 2010 at 1:03 pm
14th?
April 1st, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Greg bell
April 1st, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Darren McFadden is the two-time winner of the prestigous Jerry McDonald best offensive weapon in training camp blog award.
April 1st, 2010 at 1:04 pm
The “jeffs” Gossett and jaeger
April 1st, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Vegas, what is the prize for that?
April 1st, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Tyrone Montgomery rb#21
April 1st, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Anttaj Hawthorne, our Euro wonder kid
April 1st, 2010 at 1:07 pm
good one, his father was actually pretty good (montgomery)
April 1st, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Nick Bell had like two good games for the. LA raiders
April 1st, 2010 at 1:07 pm
He looked good off the bus though
April 1st, 2010 at 1:08 pm
HairyBush Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 1:02 pm
mormon?
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Eli Herring
April 1st, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Dakota, How could I have missed that? lol
April 1st, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Jerry Mac is not threatened by Vittorio Tafur.
Vitt previously covered the Warriors & 49ers …
April 1st, 2010 at 1:10 pm
Eli Herring
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Eli Herring is a former Brigham Young University offensive tackle who for religious reasons involving working on the Sabbath decided not to play in the National Football League and made his intention clear to all NFL teams prior to the 1995 NFL draft. Nonetheless, the devout Mormon was drafted in the 6th round by the Oakland Raiders. He now is married with six children and works as a school teacher and assistant football coach at Mountain View High School in Orem, Utah. He is one of few people to get drafted in the NFL after declaring an intention never to play.
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Way to go Al!
April 1st, 2010 at 1:11 pm
We were bad during parts of the 90’s .we went like 2 seasons without 100 yd rusher in a game until turtle neck wearin’ Harvey Williams came thru
April 1st, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Seymour Bush, tried to tell me the Eagles and Raiders play the same scheme on offense:
7. Does McNabb fit the Raiders’ offense? McNabb has been playing in the West Coast Offense since he came into the NFL. The Raiders’ offense is built on the receivers running longer routes and calls for longer throws. McNabb has the arm strength, but he does not have the legs he once had. The Raiders’ offensive line is not very good and has to be upgraded immediately. If McNabb does not have the time he needs to get rid of the ball, what difference does it make who is playing quarterback?
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/371704-10-things-you-need-to-know-about-a-donovan-mcnabb-trade-to-oakland?utm_source=newsletter
April 1st, 2010 at 1:11 pm
The mulit-untalented Fred Wakefield
April 1st, 2010 at 1:12 pm
The second best possesion WR of the 80s-90s, “Swervin Mervyn” Fernandez!!!!!!
April 1st, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Aurthur Whinnington, spelled incorrectly i know
April 1st, 2010 at 1:12 pm
The 1st best of course was Timmy “Mr. Raider” Brown.
April 1st, 2010 at 1:12 pm
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vmpSO2BbYCE/SGVv3uSicoI/AAAAAAAABlc/4mreH74UgD8/s400/obama_smoking.png
April 1st, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Was the ‘95 draft the same year as Aska?
April 1st, 2010 at 1:13 pm
I was a big fan of Mervyn. That dude made plays.
April 1st, 2010 at 1:13 pm
A McNabb arrival might buy Russell more time
This Donovan McNabb-to-the-Raiders rumor just won’t die. In fact, it’s only picked up steam, thanks to ESPN, which is essentially re-reporting last week’s scuttlebutt that the Raiders are the leading candidates to land the five-time Pro Bowl quarterback. Now, though, the network is highlighting the Syracuse connection between McNabb and Al Davis and the distant family relationship between McNabb and new Raiders offensive coordinator Hue Jackson.
Still, I’ve been told by a Raider source that McNabb wants little, if anything, to do with Raider Nation. And the Contra Costa Times reported today that if the Eagles have been in discussions with the Raiders, per ESPN, then that’s news to the Raiders.
It’s fun to play fantasy G.M., no doubt. Even more fun to look at the domino effect the Raiders landing McNabb would have on the rest of the roster.
The knee-jerk reaction is to think JaMarcus Russell would be on his way out. In fact, it might actually buy Russell another year, at least. And this is by no means a vote of confidence for Russell, who does not deserve one.
Think about it. The Raiders have already made a huge financial investment in Russell, who was still the third-youngest QB in the league last year. They realize he needs a mentor, which was the role Jeff Garcia was supposed to fill last season before, and I’m making an educated guess here, he was so disappointed in Russell’s lack of work ethic and was not ready to be a back-up he asked for his release.
Also, who was the veteran quarterback that did reach out to Russell last season? McNabb. Perhaps McNabb could offer counsel to Russell and maybe Russell would respect McNabb enough to accept it.
But acquiring McNabb could not be a one-and-done deal as he is entering the final year of his contract. They’d have to agree to some sort of extension or pull a Richard Seymour and “franchise” him. By then, you’d know for certain what you had in Russell.
-Paul Gutierrez (Sac Bee)
April 1st, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Yes it was Vegas.
We drafted a one-eyed RB and a Mormon that said he would never play, lol. But to give Al credit, he also got Kaufman, Robbins and Mike Morton in 95.
April 1st, 2010 at 1:17 pm
The Raiders have already made a huge financial investment in Russell, who was still the third-youngest QB in the league last year. They realize he needs a mentor
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whats wrong with his current mentor?
http://tobroketolaugh.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/grimace.gif
April 1st, 2010 at 1:19 pm
here’s a better pic of Russell’s mentor:
http://kennyjonesradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/grimace2.jpg
April 1st, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Dakota: Napolean Kaufman thinks Darren McFadden will be a player!
April 1st, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Russell has been given his chance and he blew it….or ate it….either way he should be cut and McNabb should be our QB in 2010.
That is a no-brainer.
April 1st, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Rockstar,
That is because God told him so.
April 1st, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Militia HQ
http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/media/images/0329-hutaree-christian-militia.jpg/7650749-1-eng-US/0329-Hutaree-Christian-militia.jpg_full_380.jpg
April 1st, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Kell: please quit posting your real estate ads on Jerry Mac’s blog … thanks
didn’t you see the “no soliciting” sign when you logged in?
April 1st, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Josh Mcnown
April 1st, 2010 at 1:30 pm
The Podunk 8
http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/topstories/2010/03/31/tp-christian-militia-839847.jpg
April 1st, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Mr. Irrelevant two years in row
Ryan Hoag(Kenny Shedds twin brother) and some other dude
April 1st, 2010 at 1:31 pm
David Dunn and Chris Cooper
April 1st, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Ken Yon Rambo
April 1st, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Andrew “Pancho” Glover
April 1st, 2010 at 1:35 pm
hey Kell, nice pic!
isn’t that your wife? the 4th one over …
April 1st, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Rockstar’s arrest outside Podunk Trailer
http://www.fugly.com/pictures/18462/long_neck_man_arrested.html
April 1st, 2010 at 1:48 pm
can’t view that one Kelly… sorry
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c43/jahleel14/joessmo.jpg&imgrefurl=http://thesuss.blogspot.com/2008/10/bad-man-and-batty-man-who-say-dem-deh.html&usg=__WIVa3n_0LXwCswA9N1umXtqAWiM=&h=450&w=450&sz=67&hl=en&start=239&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=mQEw1gstRtHlKM:&tbnh=127&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dblack%2Bgay%2Bguy%26start%3D234%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dactive%26sa%3DN%26ndsp%3D18%26tbs%3Disch:1
there ya go. that’ll please you
April 1st, 2010 at 1:49 pm
go Raiders!
April 1st, 2010 at 1:57 pm
Rockstar’s kinfolk
http://www.fugly.com/media/IMAGES/Random/long_neck_man_arrested.jpg
April 1st, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Later.
April 1st, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Obama clears way for oil drilling off US coasts
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/03/30/national/w210912D62.DTL
maybe he’s not 100% d-bag after all!
I thought this part was funny:
“Obama made no secret of the fact that one factor in his decision was securing Republican support for a sweeping climate change bill that has languished in Congress.”
April 1st, 2010 at 2:13 pm
[...] Are four legs better than six? – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A … [...]
April 1st, 2010 at 2:13 pm
CLEVELAND (AP) Cleveland police say Browns nose tackle Shaun Rogers has been arrested at Hopkins International Airport for having a loaded gun in his luggage.
Rogers was arrested at 12:15 p.m. Thursday after a loaded .45-caliber hand gun was found by security officials in his carry-on bag.
Police said he was placed under arrest without incident and was booked for carrying a concealed weapon, which is a third-degree felony, though no charge has yet been filed.
Browns president Mike Holmgren issued a statement saying the team was aware of Rogers’ arrest.
A three-time Pro Bowler, Rogers missed Cleveland’s final five games last season after breaking his leg on Nov. 29 against Cincinnati.
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Thats one way to get in Mike Holmgren’s doghouse!
April 1st, 2010 at 2:14 pm
so far …
RaiderRockstar: Dan Williams (03/18)
RaiderResurrection: Dan Williams (03/18)
SnB offense defense specialteams: Dan Williams (03/18)
Inonewordraider: Dan Williams (03/18)
Ottocrat: Dan Williams (03/18)
Florida Pete: Dan Williams (03/18)
RNOraiderFan: Dan Williams (03/21)
Al DAVIS HAS COJONES: Dan Williams (03/21)
Maddenraiderfan: Dan Williams (03/31)
Thec07: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
DKnight007: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
The Big Banana: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
LA to TheBay: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
HairyBush: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
Ryan: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
Ghost to the Post: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
Raider O: Ndamukong Suh (03/19)
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder: Ndamukong Suh (3/19)
R8eray: Ndamukong Suh (3/19)
Memo: Ndamukong Suh (03/19)
Seymour Bush: Ndamukong Suh (03/19)
Jonesy941: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
SteveAlford21: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
GG: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
JB: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
RaiderLen: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
RaidingTexas: Ndamukong Suh (03/18)
Mcfaddenswaggon: Ndamukong Suh (03/21)
Bcz24: Ndamukong Suh (03/22)
Bo Schembechler Jackson: Ndamukong Suh (03/22)
Stoopidmike: Ndamukong Suh (03/22)
504 Raider: Ndamukong Suh (03/22)
MaineRaida: Ndamukong Suh (03/23)
CJ Legend 34: Ndamukong Suh (03/24)
Hot Shot: Ndamukong Suh (03/26)
Baumraiders: Ndamukong Suh (03/30)
909RaiderLifer: Brian Price (03/19)
Neilb: Brian Price (03/30)
Jhill: Jason Pierre-Paul (03/31)
DMAC: Rolando McClain (03/18)
Richochet: Rolando McClain (03/18)
Severeraiderz: Rolando McClain (03/18)
Raiderglory34: Rolando McClain (03/18)
Vegas Raider: Rolando McClain (03/19)
New Englandraider: Rolando McClain (03/22)
Raider E: Rolando McClain (03/26)
Armyraider: Rolando McClain (03/29)
Jmeds: Rolando McClain (03/29)
Senior Beeecham: Kyle Wilson (03/19)
Silvernblack209: Taylor Mays (03/19)
1234567: Taylor Mays (03/22)
Scottish Raider: Eric Berry (03/21)
GMoney8: Eric Berry (03/21)
No Mas Diamante: Eric Berry (03/25)
DeuceDeuce: Eric Berry (03/30)
Edward Teach: Maurkice Pouncey (03/21)
BoJacks: Maurkice Pouncey (03/26)
Raiderzmaverick: Russell Okung (03/18)
KoolKell: Russell Okung (03/18)
Hwnrdr: Russell Okung (03/19)
RaiderFanFrom Jersey: Russell Okung (03/22)
Chris in NY: Russell Okung (03/24)
RaiderDogg: Russell Okung (03/24)
Henry Lawrence: Russell Okung (03/29)
Mack-Madden: Russell Okung (03/30)
Hellsbells: Anthony Davis (03/18)
408RAIDER: Anthony Davis (03/19)
Stabler76: Anthony Davis (03/22)
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL: Anthony Davis (03/23)
Dakota: Anthony Davis (03/19)
M Lonetree: Anthony Davis (03/22)
NorthernD: Trent Williams (03/20)
Midwest Fan: Trent Williams (03/22)
El Tato: Trent Williams (03/18)
Raiders4eve: Trent Williams (03/18)
Nnamdi21: Trent Williams (03/18)
Alameda_Lee: Trent Williams (03/26)
The Judge: Brian Bulaga (03/18)
SD_Raider_619: Brian Bulaga (03/19)
DirtyRaccoon: Brian Bulaga (04/01)
PassTheCheetos: Bruce Campbell (03/21)
860ToddChristenson: Bruce Campbell (03/31)
Buckeyeraider: Mike Iupati (03/18)
Burque Raider: Mike Iupati (03/21)
La Milicia Negra: Mike Iupati (03/23)
RaiderDebo: Dez Bryant (03/18)
SharkCatcher: Dez Bryant (03/18)
Plunketthead: Ryan Matthews (03/19)
SATANFEARS ALDAVIS: Jimmy Clausen (03/18)
The Real MaddenRaider: Tim Tebow (03/18)
April 1st, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Jeremy Brigham
April 1st, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Marcus Williams!
April 1st, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Louis Rankin.
April 1st, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Daryl Hobbs
April 1st, 2010 at 2:25 pm
I kinda miss Louis Rankin!
he had potential. Should have kept him over Fargas last year imo
then Al Davis wouldn’t be tempted to draft Jahvid Best in RD2 this year!
April 1st, 2010 at 2:27 pm
John Wade
April 1st, 2010 at 2:29 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 2:25 pm
I kinda miss Louis Rankin!
he had potential. Should have kept him over Fargas last year imo
then Al Davis wouldn’t be tempted to draft Jahvid Best in RD2 this year!
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so true..
April 1st, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Sadly….doesnt look good for our chances of gettin McNabb…
April 1st, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Travian Smith?
April 1st, 2010 at 2:31 pm
trade the walrus to Seattle for Rankin!
he can back up Charlie Whitehurst & Walter Jones
April 1st, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Grant Irons
Derrick Gray
April 1st, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Anyways……we better have a solid draft..
We need 3 O-linemen..
at least 1 DT..
at least 1 CB..
a couple LBs…
a FB…
April 1st, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Todd “holes in the arms” Marinovich
April 1st, 2010 at 2:35 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 2:13 pm
CLEVELAND (AP) Cleveland police say Browns nose tackle Shaun Rogers has been arrested at Hopkins International Airport for having a loaded gun in his luggage.
Rogers was arrested at 12:15 p.m. Thursday after a loaded .45-caliber hand gun was found by security officials in his carry-on bag.
Police said he was placed under arrest without incident and was booked for carrying a concealed weapon, which is a third-degree felony, though no charge has yet been filed.
Browns president Mike Holmgren issued a statement saying the team was aware of Rogers’ arrest.
A three-time Pro Bowler, Rogers missed Cleveland’s final five games last season after breaking his leg on Nov. 29 against Cincinnati.
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Thats one way to get in Mike Holmgren’s doghouse!
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Cleveland trades up for Suh or McCoy when the Rams pass on Sam Bradford and Detroit protects its franchise QB with Russell Okung.
Bucs take Suh, Skins replace retired Samuels at LT with Bulaga, Chiefs pass on McCoy since they’ve picked top 5 D line 2 yrs in a row and shifted to 3-4 last year.
S Eric Berry is their pick.
Seahawks pass on Clausen and surprise with Spiller at 6.
The Raiders take…gawd only knows.
Al hasn’t decided yet.
April 1st, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Jonathon Holland
April 1st, 2010 at 2:35 pm
have any of you guys seen that movie The Blind Side?
I keep hearing from everybody that it’s excellent, but I haven’t seen it yet …
April 1st, 2010 at 2:38 pm
None of that makes sense does it?
The point is when its Al pulling the trigger you never know.
April 1st, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Al hasn’t decided yet.
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N21: Bruce Campbell or Jason Pierre-Paul
then 3/4 of Raider Nation will stop watching the NFL draft and will drink until they either pass out or puke in the popcorn bowl
April 1st, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Better than Taylor Mays
April 1st, 2010 at 2:40 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 2:35 pm
have any of you guys seen that movie The Blind Side?
I keep hearing from everybody that it’s excellent, but I haven’t seen it yet …
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Bullocks hot.
James is an idiot for humping that gruesome porn “star”.
P.S. Bullock is HOT.
Demolition Man anyone? Lenina Huxley in that future cop skin tight uniform?
Mm hmm.
April 1st, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Najee Mustaafa
April 1st, 2010 at 2:42 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Al hasn’t decided yet.
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N21: Bruce Campbell or Jason Pierre-Paul
then 3/4 of Raider Nation will stop watching the NFL draft and will drink until they either pass out or puke in the popcorn bowl
+++++++++++++++++++++++
Or B10w up the television…..
April 1st, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Sam Williams
April 1st, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Najee Mustaafa
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ooo. nice one Einstein!
I forgot all about him
April 1st, 2010 at 2:43 pm
# Richochet Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 11:29 am
# JB Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 11:19 am
Ad will pick Dez Bryant because he can.
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Is that your pick for the “Player Al will choose” list?
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Yes.
April 1st, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Dokie Williams
April 1st, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Hopefully This will be the year we dont make fools of ourselves in the draft. I was gone after the first pick…
April 1st, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Elvis “Toast” Patterson
April 1st, 2010 at 2:44 pm
COLE FORD
April 1st, 2010 at 2:46 pm
I went turkey hunting (insert redneck jokes!) last year to spare myself the humiliation of watching the draft with friends or family … turned out to be a great decision!
shot a big fat bird, turned on the TV and had a good laugh and shut it back off thinking “here we go again”
April 1st, 2010 at 2:46 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Al hasn’t decided yet.
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N21: Bruce Campbell or Jason Pierre-Paul
then 3/4 of Raider Nation will stop watching the NFL draft and will drink until they either pass out or puke in the popcorn bowl
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He doesn’t always draft H/W/S. Ghoulston was passed over.
Campbell’s a project and we need help sooner rather than later, plus if Cable sucks again this year, he’s gone and that means a new system so scrub that year for Campbell.
Doesn’t mean it won’t happen, just not convinced by Davis’s “history” alone.
DE’s are another matter and again, can’t see him going there when DE is one of the few bright spots over the last few years.
Richardson’s been a disappointment, but Burgess, Clemmons, Scott and now Shaughnessy show Oaklands fairing pretty well with out breaking the bank at DE.
April 1st, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Darrell Russell
April 1st, 2010 at 2:49 pm
I fear (vote) that Al will pick Campbell (as opposed to my hope of Suh).
I have no faith in McFadden becoming anything more than a secondary player, and minor footnote.
Dakota beat me to the punch in remembering Scott Davis…damn that guy coulda been good and then disappeared…to sell cars or something? Still remember that great blocked kick he had…
April 1st, 2010 at 2:49 pm
Audrey Bruce
April 1st, 2010 at 2:49 pm
Cable is a moron. Have something good going with the run game but let’s abandon it and throw the offense into the hands of an idiot.
April 1st, 2010 at 2:49 pm
Anthony Dorsett
April 1st, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Vance Mueller.
April 1st, 2010 at 2:51 pm
I wonder if the Jonathan Holland experiment will continue at DB?
April 1st, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Marquez Pope.
April 1st, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Torin Dorn
April 1st, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Cable was a bigger moron trying to call offensive plays…
April 1st, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Cable is a moron. Have something good going with the run game but let’s abandon it and throw the offense into the hands of an idiot.
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True. I think it had a lot more to do with this than losing Kwame Harris, John Wade, Jake Grove & Paul McQuistan. (in favor of guys like Khalif Barnes, Samson Satele, Chris Morris & Erik Pears)
April 1st, 2010 at 2:52 pm
KrappyKell!
(in his prime)
April 1st, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Langston
April 1st, 2010 at 2:53 pm
I went turkey hunting (insert redneck jokes)
2 funny
April 1st, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Rusty Hilger
April 1st, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Billy Joe Hobert
April 1st, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Trey Junkin
April 1st, 2010 at 2:54 pm
I’m fairly sure the decision to go pass in 09′ was Cable’s idea.
April 1st, 2010 at 2:54 pm
I meant was NOT Cable’s idea.
April 1st, 2010 at 2:55 pm
What’s up been reading this page for a while but didn’t want to add anything til know love the naming of 90’s raiders on here here’s one of my favorites
#99-MLB-Winston Moss
April 1st, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Raghib Ismail
April 1st, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Tebucky Jones
April 1st, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Jett
April 1st, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Dan Williams has it all I’d take the nasty Iupati or Shaun Cody as well, take one of these 3 Al!
April 1st, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Marquis Cooper R.I.P
April 1st, 2010 at 2:56 pm
Willie Gault
April 1st, 2010 at 2:56 pm
terrence
April 1st, 2010 at 2:56 pm
Rob Fredrickson
April 1st, 2010 at 2:56 pm
Derrik Hoskins
April 1st, 2010 at 2:56 pm
“Swervin” Mervyn Fernandez
April 1st, 2010 at 2:56 pm
Jeff Gossett
April 1st, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Run Run Jones.
April 1st, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Dan Land
April 1st, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Greg Biekert
April 1st, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Patrick Im going crazy and retiring Bates #29
April 1st, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Terry McDaniel
April 1st, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Bill Pickel
April 1st, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Alexander Wright
April 1st, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Curt Marsh
April 1st, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Greg Skrepenak
April 1st, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Barret Robbins
April 1st, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Dylan Gandy
April 1st, 2010 at 2:59 pm
#48 lionel washington
April 1st, 2010 at 2:59 pm
David Fulcher
April 1st, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Vince Evans
April 1st, 2010 at 2:59 pm
5pm in Podunk. later gents!
April 1st, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Daryl Hobbs
April 1st, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Jim Lachey
April 1st, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Randy Jordan
April 1st, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Lionel Washington
April 1st, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Gunnhiem
April 1st, 2010 at 3:00 pm
I was just thinking Willie Gault. Jerry Ball.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Tyrone Montgomery
April 1st, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Bucky Brooks
April 1st, 2010 at 3:00 pm
James Trapp
April 1st, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Eric Barton
April 1st, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Leo Araguz
April 1st, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Wes Bender
April 1st, 2010 at 3:01 pm
LTR NATION
April 1st, 2010 at 3:01 pm
LOL, Good one Thec07, Leo Araguz
April 1st, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Lamont Jordan
April 1st, 2010 at 3:01 pm
#35 FB Steve Smith
April 1st, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Rob Holmberg
April 1st, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Donovan McNabb…oh wait! I’m not supposed to know that yet…
April 1st, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Napoleon McCallum
April 1st, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Don Mosebar
April 1st, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Jeff Hostetler
April 1st, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Well, it’s official. Raiders trade #8 overall for McNabb and Eagles 2nd. Wow.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Napoleon McCallum
April 1st, 2010 at 3:03 pm
David Waymer RIP
April 1st, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Austin Robbins
April 1st, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Donovan McNabb…oh wait! I’m not supposed to know that yet
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Hope you’re right Nnamdi.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Ray Ray Buchannon
April 1st, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Adam Archuleta
April 1st, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Kevin Gogan
April 1st, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Speaking of turkeys, what about our main man turkey neck…..
Harvey Williams
April 1st, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Gennaro Dinapoli
April 1st, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Derrick Fenner
April 1st, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Adimchinobi Echemandu
April 1st, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Jay Schroeder…ugh
April 1st, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Carl Kidd
April 1st, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Speaking of turkeys, what about our main man turkey neck…..
Harvey Williams
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Haha…so true.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Steve Beuerlein….did I spell that right?
April 1st, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Lorenzo Lynch remember his parole officer had to go to away games lol Hey When did we have Archuleta?
April 1st, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Bruce Pickens
April 1st, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Ryan Boschetti
April 1st, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Pat Swilling
LOVED THIS GUY!!!!
April 1st, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Rob Fredrickson
April 1st, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Larry Brown
April 1st, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Aaron Wallace
April 1st, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Darren Carrington
April 1st, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Aaron Wallace #51
April 1st, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Edgerton Hartwell
April 1st, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Lance Johnstone
April 1st, 2010 at 3:08 pm
OLANDA TRUITT
April 1st, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Calvin “Al Davis Scholarship” Branch
April 1st, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Desmond Howard
April 1st, 2010 at 3:09 pm
David Klingler
April 1st, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Eric Turner
April 1st, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Jeremy Newberry
April 1st, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Kenny Shedd
April 1st, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Terry Kirby
April 1st, 2010 at 3:10 pm
# RaiderLen Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Eric Turner
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RIP!!! Loved that guy.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:10 pm
K Cole Ford The worst!
F.ound O. n R.oadside D. ead
April 1st, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Bobby Hoying
April 1st, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Darrien Gordon
April 1st, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Michael Husted
April 1st, 2010 at 3:12 pm
Einstein Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 3:10 pm
# RaiderLen Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Eric Turner
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RIP!!! Loved that guy.
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Yes sir.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:12 pm
Sam Sword
April 1st, 2010 at 3:12 pm
Sam Sword
April 1st, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Rodger Craig
April 1st, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Anyone remember:
K.D. Williams ??
Remember he was a baggage handler, then made the squad, then got cut, then went to Green Bay, now probably handling bags against at the airport. Lots of talk about him, but then I think him and Chucky didn’t get along.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Charles Woodson
April 1st, 2010 at 3:16 pm
WR Sam Graddy
April 1st, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Well, it’s official. Raiders trade #8 overall for McNabb and Eagles 2nd. Wow.
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April fools.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:18 pm
My April Fools would’ve been “Al Davis is dead and the kingdom is free good people of Oaklandia!~
The tyrant is no more! Rejoice!
And then x-ecuted everyone of you who fell for it and DID rejoice!
April 1st, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Alot of these got mentipned already…Tory James
April 1st, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Maria Sharapova
April 1st, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Long haired DE Scott Davis.Another great 1st round pick. Didn’t Beikert kick his ass in the locker room?
April 1st, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Dirk Diggler.
This has got to stop cuz its turning into an endless loop as guys who don’t realize Alvis Whitted has been mentioned 30 times already.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Dana Skully.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Alvis Whitted.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Ricky Schmitt
April 1st, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Joanie, Chachi, Richie, the Fonz.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Alvis Whitted
April 1st, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Greg, Marsha, Cindy, Bobby, Peter…
April 1st, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Seth Wand
April 1st, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Zangief, Chun Lee…Alvis Whitted.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:22 pm
what?
April 1st, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Lenny and Squiggy
April 1st, 2010 at 3:22 pm
suprised no ones mentioned the very popular Danny Southwick
April 1st, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Danny Southwick
April 1st, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Marsha….Marsha…Marsha
April 1st, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Remember when Art benched the Hoss and V. Evans brought us back at home against the Jets and the Game clock stayed stopped at 1 second and Nick Bell went in for the win from the 1.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Rerun, Rodge, Big Shirley, Dan Turk
April 1st, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Ra8derzz Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Remember when Art benched the Hoss and V. Evans brought us back at home against the Jets and the Game clock stayed stopped at 1 second and Nick Bell went in for the win from the 1.
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No. But get us that game clock operator.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:26 pm
We probaly don’t have the clock guy anymore that was LA days
April 1st, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Hawkeye, Trapper John, Bo Jackson
April 1st, 2010 at 3:27 pm
Ra8derzz Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 3:26 pm
We probaly don’t have the clock guy anymore that was LA days
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Our loss.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Carol, Mike Seiver, Ben, Boner
April 1st, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Bobby Grich, Danny Ford, Lyle Alzado
April 1st, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Ra8derzz Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 3:26 pm
We probaly don’t have the clock guy anymore that was LA days
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Yes we do. His name?
Alvis Whitted.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Sue Ellen, Grandpa, John Boy, Ben…Alvis Whitted
April 1st, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Tinker, Evers, Chance,Reggie Kinlaw
April 1st, 2010 at 3:31 pm
In EA Sports’ Madden 2005, Alvis Whitted’s photo was duplicated and used as the photo for LaTarence Dunbar.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Skip Thomas
April 1st, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Dr Pepper, Dr FeelGood, Dr Death
April 1st, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Kevin, Winnie, Paul, Wayne, Wart, Jeff Otis
April 1st, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Brian the Genital!
April 1st, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Face man, B.A. Barrakas, Howlin’ Mad Murdock…John Matuzak
April 1st, 2010 at 3:33 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
Has anyone mentioned Alvis Whitted yet?
April 1st, 2010 at 3:34 pm
RaiderLen Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Dr Pepper, Dr FeelGood, Dr Death
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LMAO!
April 1st, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Great Raider Punters:
Ray Guy, Shane Lechler, Leo Araguz
April 1st, 2010 at 3:35 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 3:33 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
Has anyone mentioned Alvis Whitted yet?
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LMFAO!
April 1st, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Anni-Frid Lyngstad (Frida), Björn Ulvaeus, Benny Andersson and Agnetha Fältskog (Anna)…Alvis Whitted
April 1st, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Luke, Han, Chewie, Alvis Whitted.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:37 pm
http://www.alvisjwhitted.com/AJW/Alvis_James_Whitted.html
I love it! Lol
April 1st, 2010 at 3:38 pm
The great Bo Jackson
April 1st, 2010 at 3:38 pm
A bit late, but on the “Who I think Al will pick”….
Trent Williams or Derrick Morgan
April 1st, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Martin, Cole, Beedee B, Brotha Man, Dominic Rhodes
April 1st, 2010 at 3:38 pm
John, Paul, George, and Ringo…Ethan Horton
April 1st, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Now I’m playing the song “Rock me Amadeus” with the words replaced with “Alvis Whitted, Alvis Whitted, Alvis Whitted, Alvis Whitted, Alvis Whitted oh-oh-oh Alvis Whitted…
I think I need a break…
April 1st, 2010 at 3:40 pm
GRIM Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 3:38 pm
John, Paul, George, and Ringo…Ethan Horton
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and ALBERT GOLDMAN!
April 1st, 2010 at 3:40 pm
I just friend requested him on facebook lmfao!
April 1st, 2010 at 3:43 pm
George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson…Al Davis.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Jack Squirek
April 1st, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Malcolm Barnwell
April 1st, 2010 at 3:45 pm
KrappyKell and RealMaddenRetard 69ing eachother at Baskin Robbins!
April 1st, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Changed up my mock:
1. OT Anthony Davis
would have been taken earlier, but I think he has work ethic issues, hopefully Cable can coach him up well. He is an athletic and polished tackle from what I read.
2. DT Cam Thomas/ Lamarr Houston
I am torn here, not sure which is a better fit for our D. I don’t want college football.
3. C
I changed this, give me the top center available.
4. OG Mitch Petrus or the OG from Alabama.
I think he is a good Run blocker and he blocked for McFadden.
5a. MLB Micah Johnson
A thumper in the middle, a lot of people say Micah is a really good ILB and would have been taken a lot higher if it wasn’t for injuries.
5b. Cb Donovan Warren
Before the combine, he was top corner and fell a lot due to poor forties. I am hearing he will be a steal.
If he is gone, let Al pick a physical specimen.
7a and 7b. Let Al do what he does best, find late round steals, we need some kick returners.
Any thoughts? I know this is probably a little too rational for Al though.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Red, Blue, Green, Yellow…Alvis Whitted
April 1st, 2010 at 3:49 pm
That sounds like potty humor beech, you f’in hypocrite.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:50 pm
With Davis pulling the trigger mock drafts are worth fu-hk all.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:50 pm
WHY at Baskin Robbins?!!!
I’ll never eat their again…
April 1st, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Peace owt Nation! Funnier than sh-ite.
A
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April 1st, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Baskin Robbins is now tainted.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Charged Down giving himself a rectal exam with Lady Raccoon’s big toe!
April 1st, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Oh, yeah…
Four legs are definitely NOT worth more than six legs.
Especially when a RB gets injured in one form or another, costing playing time, at any given time. And…a already-questionable 3-RB stable is a HUGE worry as soon as somebody stubs a toe. Raiders RB’s tend to stub their toes a lot.
Does anybody really believe DMC has shown he’s the durable 25-carry-per-game RB this team needs to be successful?
We can hope all we want…the kid needs to show he can hold-up before he can be relied upon that way. We need somebody more durable than Fargas “behind” DMC and Bush…pushing for that starter’s job.
The Raiders NEED another RB this Spring.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Einstein Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Pat Swilling
LOVED THIS GUY!!!!
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Swillin?
Why yes I am.
211 to be exact!!
And you?
April 1st, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Raider E not showing up for shrimp cocktail serving duty and losing out on $4 an hour!
April 1st, 2010 at 4:00 pm
i was there, heard you were arrested with twin Thai boys and a bottle of deep tissue massage oil.
April 1st, 2010 at 4:01 pm
and i want my $4 beeech lol….
April 1st, 2010 at 4:02 pm
glad to see you made bail though
April 1st, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Manny, Moe, Jack, and Alvis!
April 1st, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Um, I’ll handle the jokes around here, E.
KrappyKell popping out of Raider E’s Baskin Robbins ice cream bday cake dressed as Marilyn Monroe!
April 1st, 2010 at 4:19 pm
No one mentioned Preston Ridlehuber but if you weren’t at the Heidi Game you wouldn’t know. He forever altered network television and corporate America.
Amazing. It is post meridian and the ad nauseum schoolyard name-calling is not in play. kudos contributors.
April 1st, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Hayesdaze37,
DmC is an every down back if you consider falling down, being down with injury and having the drive power of a goose down pillow to be “down”.
April 1st, 2010 at 4:25 pm
You know they’re lurking, M. They’re always lurking, waiting for the opportunity (or poster on whom) to pounce.
The fact a few of the worst offenders are using their less-offensive troll names/personalities has the most to do with the relative civility, I’m sure.
April 1st, 2010 at 4:26 pm
you got it beeech, love your sense of humor lol….
April 1st, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Have these guys been mentioned?
Eddie Anderson
John Parrella
Eric Dickerson
Roger Craig
Max Montoya
Nap McCallum
April 1st, 2010 at 4:29 pm
DMC is a spectacular specimen when afoot. He CAN be a great weapon in the open field, but we’ve only seen scant teasers of his ability. I wonder if he will ever pan-out as a great pro…no matter that he’s a great athlete.
Close to a bust, DMC is. Not quite, but too close.
April 1st, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Bob Golic
April 1st, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Hazy & M,
What are you two idiots looking at?
You don’t see Dumb Beeytch in here calling names?
April 1st, 2010 at 4:32 pm
the princess, the criminal, the nerd, the jock, vern, Doug Jolley
April 1st, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Guys
Read about this young cat, his has the highest potential but a bad attitude. I think he can represent the silver N black. AL get him fast.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-inconsistenthardy040110
April 1st, 2010 at 4:34 pm
hayesDaze37,
you’re referring to Kijana McF, correct?
April 1st, 2010 at 4:34 pm
Redskins CB Hall to McNabb: Don’t go to Oakland
Posted: April 1st, 2010 | Adam Rank | Tags: DeAngelo Hall, Donovan McNabb, Oakland Raiders, Washington Redskins
Redskins CB DeAngelo Hall had a tumultuous eight-game stay in Oakland in 2009. And now he’s acting like a counselor in a “Scared Straight” video, warning others to stay away from the Raiders.
Hall told Washington Post reporter Rick Maese to deliver a message to Eagles QB Donovan McNabb: Stay out of Oakland. (Via Maese’s Twitter page.)
“He doesnt want to go to Oakland, tell him that,” Hall said. “If you have any say-so in the matter, tell him I said that.”
The Eagles are reportedly open to dealing McNabb, and Oakland is one of the top destinations. However, there were reports from unnamed sources Wednesday that McNabb doesn’t want to be traded to the Raiders.
In other words, message received.
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Yeah, don’t go to Oakland. All they’ll do there is pay you a bazillion dollars to play like sh1t. F’n scumbag.
April 1st, 2010 at 4:36 pm
And speaking of lurkers…
Hence, the use of the words RELATIVE civility, KK.
You know, KK — If you’d stop bringing it on yourself, it would quiet down a bit for you in here. But, knowing how you and a few others crave IT, whenever you can get IT in here, I know you can’t stop yourself. (And I ain’t talking ’bout the good kinda IT.)
Any football to discuss?
April 1st, 2010 at 4:36 pm
John, Paul, George, Ringo and Clarence
maaaaan!
April 1st, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Zach Morris, Lisa Turtle, Kelly Kapowski, A.C. Slater, Screech, Mr. Belding, Tyler Brayton
April 1st, 2010 at 4:38 pm
She got a ticket to ride, and the b1tch don’t care…
April 1st, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Hazy
Why is Al Davis too chinkenshyt to list himself as General Manager on the Raiders Website?
April 1st, 2010 at 4:39 pm
yep. I would definitely want MeHandjob Hall giving career advice. I guess be alloted $1,000,000 dollars per touchdown undefensed was underpayment in his book.
April 1st, 2010 at 4:41 pm
The once-successful Raiders franchise has been on a dismal downturn for the past seven seasons, accumulating a record of 29-83 (.259). For a while now, they have been considered a laughing stock in the NFL, and have been gradually losing their fan base.
-Bleacher Report
April 1st, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Why do you post that crap Kell? Do you think that is breaking news?
April 1st, 2010 at 4:46 pm
I think what MeAngelo is trying to say is that if you suck as a cornerback and can only play zone defense then you should probably not go to Oakland because they actually ask their DBs to cover people there.
Doesn’t really apply to Mcnabb, but then MeAngelo is probably a little sensitive because the world found out how terrible he is.
April 1st, 2010 at 4:47 pm
“The team has had twelve first round draft picks in the last decade. Yet, other than kicker Janikowski, and CB Asomogha, the remaining picks have been major disappointments.”
April 1st, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Raider E Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Why do you post that crap Kell? Do you think that is breaking news?
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When’s the last time you broke news in here? Or Jerry either?
April 1st, 2010 at 4:49 pm
KoolKell Says:
Why is Al Davis too chinkenshyt to list himself as General Manager on the Raiders Website?
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KK — I know you want a partner to go round-n-round with, but I’m not the one for you. Keep spreading your ummm, warmth around, and I’m sure one of the trolls will be your huckleberry in a minute.
Right now, it’s Happy Hour…and I’ve got me a Herradura margarita calling my name. Much more pleasant than chasing your smelly tail with you.
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it!
April 1st, 2010 at 4:51 pm
Laughingstock? BSPN(AKA Boston/NewYork bootlickers)and NFL Corporate (hating everything about the Raiders) live in fear of the Oakland monster rising up again. The laughter is always uneasy no matter the many “Tuck rules” they wish to impose.
April 1st, 2010 at 4:53 pm
BREAKING NEWS:
Eli Manning Finds Donovan McNabb Trade Talk “Shocking”
In other news, Lonetree nails another one.
April 1st, 2010 at 4:55 pm
I was first on the Senior Beeecham arrest.
April 1st, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Now that is news lol.
April 1st, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Scoops. Everywhere you look, scoops.
April 1st, 2010 at 4:59 pm
scoops….lmfao
April 1st, 2010 at 5:01 pm
McNabb, Pro Bowl QB, in the final year of his contract, coming off a 92. passer rating year, and they’re asking for a 2nd rounder? No takers?
Maybe the Eagles are hardball negotiating a extension with him, driving his price down for themselves.
April 1st, 2010 at 5:05 pm
has anyone mentioned Mr Whitted???
April 1st, 2010 at 5:07 pm
OK, OK…I can’t resist. But, I really must get to that margarita…and who’s mixing it!
KoolKell Says:
“The team has had twelve first round draft picks in the last decade. Yet, other than kicker Janikowski, and CB Asomogha, the remaining picks have been major disappointments.”
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First, KK — We know someone else said that, because it’s written in proper English and makes perfect sense. Plagiarizer.
But…what about all those 1st Round picks that were wasted when your heroes (read: all others besides Al) were doing the advising?
Marc Wilson
Tedd Watts
Jessie Hester
Bob Buczkowski
John Clay
Patrick Bates
Derrick Gibson
Todd Marijuanavich
Superstars all, right?
AND…All of those guys were drafted in Round 1…all while Al had GM-quality advisers, which is one of the common whines coming from your engine (and others) in here.
So, making things worse than they already (and obviously) are is a waste of your time. We already know how bad things are, and how badly they need to change.
But…we also know you have NO life, and require verbal poundings you take in here just to make you feel wanted.
Now…no more soup for you from me…I’m out.
And, yes…it IS a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it!?
April 1st, 2010 at 5:09 pm
what??? i ain’t goin’ to that losing ass team… no damm way… you can’t pay me enough to go there… bunch o’ losers… every damm one of them… nothing good comes outta there… that’s where players go to die… i ain’t going… no freaking way…
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okay… test question… who said the above…
answer will be posted shortly…
April 1st, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Krappy, simmer down, you old buzzard!
Man, here me and my pals Raider E and Hayes are having a sweet time ripping on you, and you waddle in and try to ruin all the fun.
But its not going to work, you silly old sack of pigeon poo!
Check this out:
Al Davis and KrappyKell giggling in bed together, splitting a pint of sorbet, watching Beaches on DVD.
April 1st, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Kell,
I think the Eagles are in a tough spot. Everybody knows that all three of their qbs are in the last year of their respective contracts, and also knows that this is the time when they HAVE to move McNabb. He’ll cost too much to retain, will only be around for another couple of years, and they’ll lose Kolb in the process.
Add to that the fact that they basically insulted everyone’s intelligence by overvaluing him at the start of all this trade stuff, and you have a situation where they are truly over a barrel.
I said it a week ago; he’s going to get traded, but it’s going to be for a lot less than people think.
April 1st, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Anyone see what Jamarcus looks like yet?
April 1st, 2010 at 5:13 pm
mcnabb is over the hill thats why there is no takers
April 1st, 2010 at 5:14 pm
Florida Pete Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 5:09 pm
what??? i ain’t goin’ to that losing ass team… no damm way… you can’t pay me enough to go there… bunch o’ losers… every damm one of them… nothing good comes outta there… that’s where players go to die… i ain’t going… no freaking way…
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okay… test question… who said the above…
answer will be posted shortly…
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the answer to the above question is:
every single draftee, traded player, or signed free agent (prior to signing)…
of course they’re going to say it… they have to…
it’s the only thing they can say…
April 1st, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Al Davis has got to retire before ANY improvements can be made, period!
April 1st, 2010 at 5:16 pm
Krappy, you’ve gotta move into a retirement home without ANY internet connection, period!
April 1st, 2010 at 5:18 pm
al davis is a football genius ,just not a good dresser
April 1st, 2010 at 5:19 pm
I’m thinking Donavon “not wanting to be in Oakland, immobile, injury prone, expensive” Mcnabb doesn’t give us as good a team as Bruce with a 2nd round pick does
April 1st, 2010 at 5:20 pm
29-83 (.259).
April 1st, 2010 at 5:22 pm
Post #319 may be the all time idiotic post ever written on this blog.
April 1st, 2010 at 5:30 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 5:07 pm
OK, OK…I can’t resist. But, I really must get to that margarita…and who’s mixing it!
KoolKell Says:
“The team has had twelve first round draft picks in the last decade. Yet, other than kicker Janikowski, and CB Asomogha, the remaining picks have been major disappointments.”
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First, KK — We know someone else said that, because it’s written in proper English and makes perfect sense. Plagiarizer.
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That’s the funniest thing i’ve seen all day.
April 1st, 2010 at 5:31 pm
fat kidd Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 5:18 pm
al davis is a football genius ,just not a good dresser
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i’m thinking just the opposite…
al davis is football dresser, just not a good genius…
April 1st, 2010 at 5:39 pm
remember when mike ditka gave up all his draft picks for one player,ricky williams thats what we need to do.mcnabb for all are picks.
April 1st, 2010 at 5:41 pm
7 pro bowl players in the last 10 years.
April 1st, 2010 at 5:43 pm
they should pick a owner every year to be a pro bowler
April 1st, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Hey JaCrisco! Are six chins better than eight?
April 1st, 2010 at 5:53 pm
they should put j.russells picture on a cereal box
April 1st, 2010 at 5:57 pm
I don’t remember Al Davis getting the NFL Executive of the Year Award in the last 30 years.
April 1st, 2010 at 6:02 pm
ET –
Completely agree with McNabb. I’m thinking a 3rd/7th this year. a 3rd in 2011 with possibilty of it being a 2nd.
Something like that should bring him in. I would like the deal to be contingent on him signing an extension but as the reports are, the Raiders are the only ones to not require it.
April 1st, 2010 at 6:03 pm
i saw the raiders pre-season schedule they should be 4-0 dallas,bears,whiners,seahawks.
April 1st, 2010 at 6:08 pm
Poor Richard Seymour was captured and imprisoned last year. There’s a possibility of parole.
April 1st, 2010 at 6:32 pm
Krappy, we all know your wife is MISERABLE living with a loser like you, but does she have any idea you’re on the blog all day – every day – whining about Al Davis?
I bet the old broad would really enjoy an evening out one of these days.
Or a romp in the hay for the 1st time this decade.
Anyway, you’re too much fun to laugh at, so for selfish reasons I hope you never change.
But think of the old bat, Krappy! It’s not late to save your sinking marriage!
April 1st, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Since Free Agency 1989:
6 winning seasons in the last 20.
3 winning seasons in the last 15.
Do you really believe The 80yr old GM who produced this will fix this:
09′ 5-11
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-12
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-12
7 Straight Double-Digit Losing Seasons. (NFL Record)
Al Davis:
Lowest attendance in the NFL. A
2nd least valuable franchise in NFL.
In the last 7 years:
5 Head Coaches,
8 Starting QB’s.
1 General Manager, Al Davis
April 1st, 2010 at 7:15 pm
# KoolKell Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Since Free Agency 1989:
6 winning seasons in the last 20.
3 winning seasons in the last 15.
Do you really believe The 80yr old GM who produced this will fix this:
09′ 5-11
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-12
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-12
7 Straight Double-Digit Losing Seasons. (NFL Record)
Al Davis:
Lowest attendance in the NFL. A
2nd least valuable franchise in NFL.
In the last 7 years:
5 Head Coaches,
8 Starting QB’s.
1 General Manager, Al Davis
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Yeah, but look at the bright side KK, we do have some snappy uniforms.
April 1st, 2010 at 7:17 pm
RaiderBeat.com Staff Report
The Raiders thought they were through with cornerback DeAngelo Hall when they cut him after an abysmal eight-game stint in 2008 that cost them $8 million, as well as second- and fifth-round draft picks.
Well, not quite. Hall has bashed the Raiders through the media ever since he was picked up by the Washington Redskins late in the 2008 season. On Thursday, Hall showed that his blowtorch still has plenty of fuel by getting word out to Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb:
“He doesnt want to go to Oakland, tell him that,” Hall told a Washington Post reporter. “If you have any say-so in the matter, tell him I said that.”
In retrospect, the Raiders wanted nothing to do with Hall, who was burned repeatedly before being released in favor of journeyman Chris Johnson.
Tags: DeAngelo Hall, Donovan McNabb, Raider Beat, RaiderBeat.com, Raiders, Raiders beat, Raidersbeat.com
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This guy was paid 8 mill for 8 games-get over yourself, you were exploited and embarassed for the lousy corner that you are! I hate people like this.
April 1st, 2010 at 7:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 6:08 pm
Poor Richard Seymour was captured and imprisoned last year. There’s a possibility of parole.
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It’s sad when you put it that way. Hopefully things look up for the Raider organization.
April 1st, 2010 at 7:21 pm
(Funny at the same time)
April 1st, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Even if the Raiders don’t trade for McNabb, they can provide potential leverage for the Eagles in any negotiations with McNabb, whose contract expires after this season. “Take this deal, or we’re talking trade with the Raiders”
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/03/30/SPMC1CNI4E.DTL#ixzz0juEodf3M
April 1st, 2010 at 8:55 pm
4 legs are better than 6. There are more than enough carries to split with 2 running backs. Tom Cable absolutely had no clue on how to manage the running backs. GEtting rid of Fargas prevents wasted carries.
Now Bush can actually get into a rhythm and not worry about getting benched if his first two carries don’t go at least 5 yards a carry.
This will be a great year for the running game. Two dynamic running backs getting carries… Great deal.
Bring in a 3rd string guy that can play special teams
April 1st, 2010 at 8:57 pm
If JaDavis Russell or Bruce Gradkowski is the starter….it will mean 8 consecutive years of 11+ losses.
JaDavis never put in the effort
Gradkowski is a gym rat with limited talent. Only the Raiders, who overrate talent so badly, could actually believe that Gradkowski could win games…sheeeesh…stop believing in fairy tales!
April 1st, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Guy gets cut by Tampa, Cleveland and St. Louis Rams…and Raider fan thinks this guy can win…would rather LOSE with Gradkowski as opposed to the chance to win with a 5x Pro-Bowler.
Raider fan loves losing….just because Gradkowski is roughly the same build as Gannon and Garcia does not mean he can play.
Getting McNabb is an absolute priority for this year.
Who cares about the cost or if he walks…this team has to start winning and we aint winning with a backup QB or a guy that terrible on the craps table
April 1st, 2010 at 9:05 pm
SnB
The only Fix is Al Davis’s retirement, no matter how unlikely.
All the rest are just band-aids.
April 1st, 2010 at 9:07 pm
21+ point offense per game
QB McNabb
RB Bush / DMAC
FB TBD
WR Schilens
WR Murphy
WR JLH
TE Miller
OT Henderson, Gallery, Satele, Walker, Draft Pick
April 1st, 2010 at 9:09 pm
gradkowski is better than mcnabb because not only can ha make plays with his arm but also his legs
April 1st, 2010 at 9:10 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 9:05 pm
SnB
The only Fix is Al Davis’s retirement, no matter how unlikely.
All the rest are just band-aids.
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I am with you. Davis’ decision have been dreadful.
I am looking for the best chance to win given the current situation.
With McNabb…there is a chance `worth watching first 4 wks
With JaDavis and Gradkowski…there is no chance `find something else to do on Sundays
April 1st, 2010 at 9:13 pm
fat kidd Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 9:09 pm
gradkowski is better than mcnabb because not only can ha make plays with his arm but also his legs
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Fat kidd,
That’s absolute rubbish! What do you base that statement on?
What freekn team in the NFL would gleefully go into the season with Gradkowski over McNabb.
2 games of feisty jumping up and down does not eclipse 5 pro-bowls, playoff and Super Bowl appearances and 3500 yd passing seasons.
Gradkowski is a 53% passer who has never accomplished anything of note. Gradkowski could give us a call in 10 years…after he gets some experience…n
April 1st, 2010 at 9:14 pm
So Gradkowski is better than McNabb?
Where are the trade offers for Gradkowski?
Stop believing in fairy tales….Gradkowski IS NOT the next Warner…LOL
He’s a backup QB
April 1st, 2010 at 9:15 pm
QBs who’s best trait is mobility (read Gradkowski) usually are not very good
April 1st, 2010 at 9:15 pm
QBs “whose”
April 1st, 2010 at 9:16 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 8:49 am
I’m all for picking OL in 3rd and 4th if even for depth but those guys may not start right away
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I think Matthew Tennant, Ciron Black, Jason Fox & Kyle Calloway can start right away … just my opinion though
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I’m high on Black and Calloway. They are big and play with power and give move in a power ZBS or a counter or man blocking scheme.
Tennant is solid….but he is weighs less than 300 pounds and Fox barely weighs 300.
The Raiders need bigger and more powerful O-Linemen who are mobile for their size.
April 1st, 2010 at 9:19 pm
I like Gradkowski, I really do. He is a “try hard” kinda guy.
I would love to see him excel.
That said, McNabb is leaps and bounds better.
Hey Priest, I just said I liked a black QB —- am I still a racist?
April 1st, 2010 at 9:20 pm
gradkowski has not even played a full season yet ,because they let fatass russell start the season no you bring in a 34 year old chuckier
April 1st, 2010 at 9:21 pm
If the O-Line is bad..you don’t go off and play a scrambling no passing threat QB….you fix the o-line.
I can’t believe how far this franchise has fallen that it depends on QBs off the street that have never done anything….at least some of these other “journeyman” the Raiders have used played in other places.
3x cut by horrible teams, no arm, no accuracy…but is a little vocal…give me a break
Do you guys still want to win?
April 1st, 2010 at 9:24 pm
who says mcnabb is better ,he was at one time better but now he is a has been or philly would not even talk about letting him go
April 1st, 2010 at 9:26 pm
fat kidd Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 9:20 pm
gradkowski has not even played a full season yet ,because they let fatass russell start the season no you bring in a 34 year old chuckier
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Fat Kidd,
We are going to start a QB that couldn’t beat out:
Ronald Bartell, Kyle Boller, Keith Null
or
Brett Ratliff and Brady Quinn
or
Luke McCown, Brian Griese or Josh Johnson
So the light came on all of a sudden…and Gradkowski is going to lead the Silver n Black.
I’d rather watch curling
April 1st, 2010 at 9:28 pm
fat kidd Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 9:24 pm
who says mcnabb is better ,he was at one time better but now he is a has been or philly would not even talk about letting him go
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Hmmmm,
The Eagles went to the playoffs last year…McNabb threw 22 TDS and 10 Ints…threw for over 3000 yds…
Gradkowski only played in 3 games….LOL
April 1st, 2010 at 9:28 pm
SnB,
You talk a lot of smack on here but I’m having a hard time with your football analysis here.
So you think we’ll score 21+ points with McNabb and basically the same Oline that pretty much knocked out all 3 QB’s on our roster.
FYI, in 2009 we gave up over 21 points in 10 games so your avg of 21 points still means a 6-10 record. That is 1 game improvement with McNabb.
We’re talkging the same Oline except for your 1 draft pick and God knows if he can play that allowed all 3 QB’s to be knocked out at one point or another.
Your logic doesnt make sense.
April 1st, 2010 at 9:31 pm
The losing has destroyed the Raider fan base.
To cheer a spunky kid just because he’s better than the awful JaDavis?
On what team would Gradkowski be the undisputed starter?
Name 1
April 1st, 2010 at 9:31 pm
the raiders week 6 oakland 13 -philly 9 russell winner d.mcnabb loseeeeeeeeeer
April 1st, 2010 at 9:35 pm
AIG,
The loss of Gallery hurt the O_line…then Satele didn’t know the playcalls until week 5 or so….even Cornell Green got hurt…
and guess what? The Eagles o-line was pretty bad last year too. McNabb was able to make it work there.
Regardless, I have never heard of a team that said play the less talented mobile guy over the more talented passer because the o-line is bad.
Most teams trying to win would say fix the o-line and play the best qb
April 1st, 2010 at 9:36 pm
fat kidd Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 9:31 pm
the raiders week 6 oakland 13 -philly 9 russell winner d.mcnabb loseeeeeeeeeer
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So Carson Palmer, Ben Rothlisberger, Matt Schaub are losers too
April 1st, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Once again….to have a chance at winning games in the NFL, you need a good QB, solid physical O-Line, solid run stuffing D-Line, who can put pressure on the QB, and a good coaching staff that can game plan accordingly, make quick game time adjustments, and are good play callers.
They also can’t be afraid to discipline the players!
April 1st, 2010 at 9:37 pm
the eagles went to the playoffs last year cause brian westbrook carried the team.
April 1st, 2010 at 9:38 pm
post 362 ben roethlisberger is worse than a loser he is a rapist
April 1st, 2010 at 9:39 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Once again….to have a chance at winning games in the NFL, you need a good QB, solid physical O-Line, solid run stuffing D-Line, who can put pressure on the QB, and a good coaching staff that can game plan accordingly, make quick game time adjustments, and are good play callers.
They also can’t be afraid to discipline the players!
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Hey, allright we have all that——wait a minute, ooohhhh nnnnooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 1st, 2010 at 9:40 pm
# fat kidd Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 9:31 pm
the raiders week 6 oakland 13 -philly 9 russell winner d.mcnabb loseeeeeeeeeer
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Rotten luck!
The Eagles made the playoffs and were a far better team than the Raiders and McNabb is a Pro Bowler.
I would take McNabb as the QB for the Raiders any day of the freakin week ahead of the lazy or less talented guys on the roster as QB’s now.
April 1st, 2010 at 9:41 pm
The Raider O-Line was bad. The Packers, Steelers and Redskins were also bad.
Should the Packers be looking for Gradkowski over Rogers because Gradkowski has better mobility?
April 1st, 2010 at 9:45 pm
packers rodgers played the full season and gtadkowki did not,if he did the raiders would have been a playoff team
April 1st, 2010 at 9:45 pm
fat kidd Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 9:37 pm
the eagles went to the playoffs last year cause brian westbrook carried the team.
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Then we should sign Westbrook too? Why is such a great player still unsigned?
Oh, how many games did Westbrook miss last year.?
How about this….just say that 2010 is a throwaway year…and hence we don’t want to spend the money on the QB because the team is so awful that its beyond repair.
BTW, if the line is that bad that an elite QB couldn’t function here…..doesn’t that give ammunition to the JaDavis apologists?
April 1st, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Regardless if you think bringing in McNabb is a good idea.
What do you guys think it will take to get him here?
April 1st, 2010 at 9:47 pm
DKnight007,
Some of these Raider fans still believe JaDavis will turn it around.
others see Gradkowski yelling on the field and they think he’s Gannon because he’s feisty and is about the same build…..
Its not based on logic
April 1st, 2010 at 9:50 pm
fat kidd Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 9:45 pm
packers rodgers played the full season and gtadkowki did not,if he did the raiders would have been a playoff team
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Packers: 51 sacks 93 QB knock downs
Steelers: 50 sacks 78 QB knock downs
Raiders: 49 sacks 97 QB knock downs
Guess what, O-lines are bad. Two of the three teams have legit pro-bowl and playoff caliber QBs.
One team has a 3x cut, 53% career passer journeyman from Toledo and another QB that’s more at home at the Craps Table than the training table
April 1st, 2010 at 9:51 pm
DKnight007 SaysThe Eagles made the playoffs and were a far better team than the Raiders and McNabb is a Pro Bowler………………………………………….mcnabb was a pro bowler thats my point he is a has been chucker
April 1st, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Midwest Fan Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Regardless if you think bringing in McNabb is a good idea.
What do you guys think it will take to get him here?
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I think the Raiders get him in here with a 2nd round pick…and maybe a 5th
April 1st, 2010 at 9:54 pm
they will not get mcnabb at all,he will retire if they try
April 1st, 2010 at 9:55 pm
SnB,
Sorry to be harsh but you’re beyond rediculous right now. You dont even know your stats.
Eagles gave up 38 (35 McNabb) sacks as a team in the reg season. Plus 4 more in the playoff.
Raiders gave up 49.
NO McNabb was not able to make anything work last year when his lines struggled. How did he do against the Raiders’ 6 sacks? He sucked and he even forgot that the last play for his team was a 4th down.
Here are some more stats for you. In all of McNabb’s 3 reg season loss, his team gave up 14 sacks out of 35. That is almost 50% of the season’s sack gave up by his line. In the playoff, they got blown out and guess what his team gave up 4 sacks. The offense was shut down. What does that tell you? It tells you exactly opposite what you claim with McNabb. It only confirm that McNabb can’t do crap when he doesnt have the time with his line.
Got news for you, our team gave up 1/3 more sacks than the eagles. He aint gonna do shcytt here. That is why I dont bother wasting trading for him.
April 1st, 2010 at 9:56 pm
# KoolKell Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 4:41 pm
The once-successful Raiders franchise has been on a dismal downturn for the past seven seasons, accumulating a record of 29-83 (.259). For a while now, they have been considered a laughing stock in the NFL, and have been gradually losing their fan base.
-Bleacher Report
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Yep….and the old man Al must love it….
Him and his cronies ie Herrera, Trask, Taylor must be a masochists
April 1st, 2010 at 10:00 pm
AIG,
Steelers and Packers have terrible O-Lines as well. But they have legit QBs that can get rid of the ball and read a defense.
How many of those sacks in Oakland was due to JaDavis’ inability to get to the 2nd or 3rd read…or Gradkowski bailing out of the pocket….
I’ll tell you what….the Packers would roll with Aaron Rogers over Bruce Gradkowski no matter how bad the lines are.
You don’t compromise on the QB…you fix the line
April 1st, 2010 at 10:01 pm
I would rather the Raiders go draft and play some rookie QB than WASTE EVERYONES TIME with King Elexis or the Gym-Rat
April 1st, 2010 at 10:02 pm
3 weeks from today…
Ready to see how it all plays out.
April 1st, 2010 at 10:02 pm
This all gets back to Tom Cable
Isn’t he supposed to be a great O-Line coach?
They didn’t even draft an O-Lineman in a O-Line deep draft?
Screw all that…get a real quarterback
April 1st, 2010 at 10:03 pm
One QB throws for 3500 yards…and we are seriously entertaining playing some 3rd string QB or a Mardi Gras King
April 1st, 2010 at 10:05 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 8:57 pm
If JaDavis Russell or Bruce Gradkowski is the starter….it will mean 8 consecutive years of 11+ losses.
JaDavis never put in the effort
Gradkowski is a gym rat with limited talent. Only the Raiders, who overrate talent so badly, could actually believe that Gradkowski could win games…sheeeesh…stop believing in fairy tales!
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Exactly…..
If McNabb can’t be had, than they need to trade for Sage.
Then build and talent to the O-Line and D-Lines!
April 1st, 2010 at 10:06 pm
And I could care less about the future.
There is no future rebuild with Al Davis. You have to reload and just throw the pieces together and hope it works.
“Throwing” McNabb in the mix is a better option then trying to watch an Owner painstakingly fail at rebuilding a franchise
If it doesn’t work…so what…scour the free agent pool next year and try again. As long as Davis runs the show, and controls the draft, the only way to win is to get proven players and hope they find a spark.
McNabb will make a bigger impact then some 2nd round 40x reach
Gradkowski is not a playoff caliber QB…he’s a stop gap 2 game guy that is good in the lockerroom.
April 1st, 2010 at 10:06 pm
SnB,
You’re right about Jawalrus but I believe time will prove that you are wrong about Grad.
1. He commands respect from his teammates.
2. He showed improvement from game to game. Dallas – 1 step behind. Steelers – on target. Washington – 153 yds in 1st half. Got knocked the fck out by our bad Oline.
3. I’d rather we keep all our picks and get as many D and Olines guys as possible to see if we make any improvement. If we do and Grad struggles, then yeah go het a bonafide QB in here. Until we show we can protect our QB, dont bother wasting our picks trading for one.
If we get mcNabb and give up at least a 2nd. That means we have to take a OLine guy in the first. That means we still have the exact same Oline except for the rookie. That means our Dline still sucks and we cross our fingers that our reject center and right guard can hold their end. You see how the dominio effect happens.
The team that should get McNabb is the Niners. Herm Edwards is right. They have a perfect situation for him. They should give up a 2nd for McNabb and a 1st for Marshall. Hate to say it but we got holes everywhere.
good nite all and pls dont take any thing personal. It’s just fb talk. Cheers.
April 1st, 2010 at 10:07 pm
Gradkowski and Russell could have been tendered 6th round picks or so…and they still would have been available
April 1st, 2010 at 10:14 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 10:06 pm
And I could care less about the future.
There is no future rebuild with Al Davis. You have to reload and just throw the pieces together and hope it works.
“Throwing” McNabb in the mix is a better option then trying to watch an Owner painstakingly fail at rebuilding a franchise
If it doesn’t work…so what…scour the free agent pool next year and try again. As long as Davis runs the show, and controls the draft, the only way to win is to get proven players and hope they find a spark.
McNabb will make a bigger impact then some 2nd round 40x reach
Gradkowski is not a playoff caliber QB…he’s a stop gap 2 game guy that is good in the lockerroom.
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Exactly! Rebuilding with the old man and his cronies making the decisions would be a futile attempt which has been proven the last 7 years.
Just gotta hope the old man can make the right free agent pickups and make the right picks come draft day.
Doubt it happens though….cause that has been the lame ass trend.
April 1st, 2010 at 10:15 pm
lets not forget charlie frye who could easily be a starter
April 1st, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Aig,
I’ll tell you what…if I thought that Al Davis knew how to draft in the 1st or 2nd round…or that Tom Cable was a good O-Line coach…then I could understand your position.
But there is NO WAY Al Davis drafts someone in the 1st or 2nd round that can help us right away. And if he does, history tells us it will be a mid to late round pick.
I don’t value those top draft picks because the reality is we draft skill players and athletes.
Also, if we are truly interested in getting a lot of players…then I hope Davis trades down with that mystery team and gets an extra 2nd round pick and a 1st next year…..then you can still build the lines and give the offense a fighting chance with McNabb.
As for Gradkowski, I think everyone likes him because he’s not JaDavis. Being a fresh breeze in a stuffy room is not enough to say he’s the guy.
Tyler Thigpen did a hell of a lot more than Gradkowski last year. Yet he was traded away and buried on a depth chart. These evaluators know who can and can’t play. Gradkowski can’t play as a starter. If he could, someone would have tendered him…or he would still be on St. Louis Cleveland or Tampa Bay.
2 games don’t mean jack..
April 1st, 2010 at 10:19 pm
I like Grads and right now he is better than Juggs…but even Grads needs competition.
Grads is hungry and I like that in a QB who has the nothing to lose and everything to gain attitude.
April 1st, 2010 at 10:21 pm
the first player that can be drafted that would help the team immediately cj splller rb the break away runner mcffaden was supposed to be
April 1st, 2010 at 10:23 pm
DKnight007,
Of course “Grads” is hungry! He knows this is his only shot at being an NFL starter…especially after being in the wilderness with St.Louis, cleve and tampa
We’ve been beaten down with JaDavis so bad that we forget that MOST QBs are hungry for an opportunity….not lethargic like JaDavis.
Gradkowski is like a Jon Kitna. YEah, gives you a couple of games here and there..but in the end cant’ get you to the playoffs and in the end the result is a top 5 pick and an implosion of the roster.
Gradkowski is like Charlie Batch to me. Good off the bench or to get through a stretch of games….but he’s not a starter!
April 1st, 2010 at 10:28 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 10:07 pm
Gradkowski and Russell could have been tendered 6th round picks or so…and they still would have been available
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Totally disagree. Gradkowski is no worse than a quality backup QB and a team would’ve snatched him up in a second with a 6th round tender. He’s an extremely mobile still young quarterback who’s by all accounts a hard worker and a guy who can rally a team around him.
Don’t pretend that teams know it all in terms of talent evaluation. They let quality players slip through the cracks all the time. Kurt Warner. James Harrison. These are guys who floated around and were cut multiple times before proving to be league MVP caliber players. Some guys just take a few years to develop and if they weren’t drafted high teams don’t have much patience to keep them around.
I’m not saying Bruce Almighty is going to be a league MVP, but he showed enough last year to secure a guaranteed roster spot in this league for the next few years.
April 1st, 2010 at 10:32 pm
The Tyler Thigpen comparrison is fair. But I kind of like Thigpen too. Just because KC brought in a new regime that let him go doesn’t mean he can’t play. It also doesn’t mean the Chiefs made the right call in paying Cassel a buttload of money and letting Thigpen go. Thigpen in 2008 was way better than Cassel in 2009 and at probably about 5% of the price tag.
I think Bruce got caught up in this situation as well in his career where he was stuck on bad teams who changed coaches and he got lost in the shuffle.
April 1st, 2010 at 10:36 pm
If AD does nothing else he MUST rebuild the lines – both of them & that includes the back-ups. Without the lines we are going nowhere fast. With rebuilt lines, even without a decent QB, we’ll be much better off than the last 7 years.
Draft a Center, a DT, a MLB, an OG, an OT, a FB a CB & 2 RB’s in that order.
April 1st, 2010 at 10:38 pm
# fat kidd Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 10:21 pm
the first player that can be drafted that would help the team immediately cj splller rb the break away runner mcffaden was supposed to be
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CJ Spiller would be a great pick at #8 actually.
The guys skills and style reminds me of Marshall Faulk!
Spiller can return punts also…and having him with DMC and Bush would potentially be deadly.
However, if a RB is going to be picked….I would rather see the old man pick Gerhardt in Round 2. It would also save money at the RB position.
Gerhardt is a true power back who can move the pile in short yardage, pond the ball in the end zone in goal line situations, catch the ball out of the backfield, play some full back, block and would push DMC and Bush and compliment them.
April 1st, 2010 at 10:45 pm
I’d like someone to name one QB trhat can make things happen with no time to throw. McNabb had a ton of pressure on him when he played the Raiders and it showed the same thing happened to T Brady and Peyton Manning. When Drew Brees got pressure in his face he struggled badly.
It amazes me that people make these kinds of arguments. The name of the game of football is get pressure on the QB because every coach knows that is the easiest way to win a game………..period
April 1st, 2010 at 11:02 pm
rd1 cj spiller rb rd2 charles brown ot rd3 tony pike qb rd4 matt tennant c rd5 cj wilson de rd5 mike neal dt rd7 joe pawelek mlb
April 1st, 2010 at 11:08 pm
Fat kidd Tony Pike is a bum………..period
EJ Wilson at DE out of NC is a stud.
April 1st, 2010 at 11:13 pm
Chris in NY, get a clue bro. Grads is a wannabe. He is what you use if you nothing else. If you have a choice Grads is the last thing you want at QB it puzzles me that guy’s in here think this kid is some kind of player.
If you put him on the open market you’d get a huge yawn. To think he is anything more than a stopgap is ridiculous.
April 1st, 2010 at 11:22 pm
You guy’s are delusional. You think Tom Cable wants to go into next year with Gradkowski at QB you’re crazy. Cable was more pissed at Russell than pleased with Grads. He knows that if he starts with Grads he is hoping that at some point Russell is ready to take over. They are after McNabb for a reason they DON”T want to go a full season with those two journeyman if Russell doesn’t come through. If Grads were anything NEAR a sure thing McNabb wouldn’t even be a consideration. But they are desparate not to have to play those guy’s.
The media doesn’t spin it that way but I’m telling you everything I hear is based around Russell when they talk starters and I’m talking about the PLAYERS they meation Russell not Gradkowski. Forget what you’re hearing in the media. I’m telling what the players are saying. And they are raving about Russell at this point.
April 1st, 2010 at 11:32 pm
Priesttj
Tell me about the basic tenets of the Raider’s Offense, and have they been successful pursuing them?
April 1st, 2010 at 11:37 pm
No they haven’t becuase the unsettled positin of QB which the key factor acheiving the goal. Until that is proficient they probably wont. If you knew anything about football the answer to that question would be blatantly obvious.
April 1st, 2010 at 11:41 pm
Priesttj
You’re a puffed up clown.
April 1st, 2010 at 11:43 pm
You should know.
April 2nd, 2010 at 5:13 am
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April 2nd, 2010 at 5:51 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
I guess we should see, huh?
Happy Good Friday!!!
April 2nd, 2010 at 6:58 am
Grads has been cut from 2 team already please stop making him out to be so wanted, nobody in the league would give you anything for him yet Russell is so awful that even a lifetime backup that’s right that is all Grads is can beat him out.
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:05 am
Man people sure think they have it all figured out when it comes to Bruce not being any good.
You read the Bruce supporters, like myself, and it is “I think” he can be good, and “I would like to see” if he can build on last year, and so on.
On the anti-Bruce posts, everyone is certain he is no good, only a backup, and that at 26 years old he has maxed out. No flexibility on it, and really no desire to even see if he can contiune on from last year. It’s as if the chance that he might turn into an average QB and that he is a mirror image physically of the last successful QB here (Gannon) is completely lost on them.
Pretty weird to me. Let the kid compete and if he sucks, get rid of him. If he plays like last year, support him and surround him with some talent.
We should all be in wait and see mode, with both Bruce and Jamarcus, but too many internet GM’s on here who have already made their determination on Bruce and it isn’t even written in pen, it is in a double-wide sharpie pen.
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:10 am
For instance, people want to give up a draft pick for Sage Rosenfels.
Sage is 32 years old, has been on as many teams as Bruce, and if he came here it would be his 4th team in 5 years. Yet people support ACTUALLY GIVING UP PICKS to get this guy, and on the other side of their mouth, they didn’t even care if we re-signed Bruce to a one-year deal.
Straight amazing. The anybody but Bruce crowd is now riveling the anybody but Jamarcus crowd.
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:13 am
All right….feel better now.
Good morning Nation!!!
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:21 am
The NFL QB is in a constant game of chess. Heard Peyton Manning saw that their is no offseason for a NFL QB.
In 2010, football smarts are way more important than a strong arm. That’s how Drew Brees can set all these NFL records and win a championship with a worse arm than Charlie Frye and Bruce Gradkoswki. Arm strength is not as important as accuracy and decision-making, which Brees is amongst the tops in the league in those two categories.
Not comparing Bruce to Drew by any means. Just saying, don’t understate the skill level of Bruce. He is big enough, there are successful guys smaller than him, and is arm is strong enough.
If he isn’t going to make it in this league, it will be because of accuracy and injury issues, not arm-strength or size.
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:24 am
Now I must leave, lesson adjourned
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:24 am
happy easter!!
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:26 am
What do you guys think about swapping firsts with the Eagels for McNabb. Then using our second to get Gaither from the Ravens. Could then use the first from the Eagels to get Pouncey. QB, LT, and center in one draft. This would be great.
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:37 am
Good Friday! Thank you Jesus!
good morning everybody. it’s a great day to be a Raider fan
Isn’t it?
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:41 am
Always a good day to be a raider fan.
Rockstar was u the one making the “green list?”
if so I’m in…
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:41 am
Happy Friday Nation!
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:43 am
Hells, they wont give up McNabb for just pick swaps, there would have to be more to that deal.
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:43 am
The NFL QB is in a constant game of chess. Heard Peyton Manning say that there is no offseason for a NFL QB.
In 2010, football smarts are way more important than a strong arm.
Arm strength is not as important as accuracy and decision-making
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Vegas: couldn’t agree more. JaMarcus Russell has a strong arm and nothing more
Bruce Gradkowski & Charlie Frye don’t have big arms, but they are smart QB’s with good leadership, understanding and passion for the game. They put the work in (in the gym and in the film room). Players follow their lead & example when they are starting at QB
If you could attach Russell’s arm to either of these QB’s you’d have a Pro Bowl player imo – assuming we make some attempt to address the O-Line in the draft or shortly right after
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:43 am
Bruce sucks ass. He has had 523 pass attempts in the NFL, so it isn’t like he just hasn’t had his shot. He only completes about 53.3% of his passes. Even in his “breakout” season last year he only completed 54.7% of his passes.
And last year he even fumbled nearly as much as Russell…once every 30 attempts as opposed to Russell’s once every 27 attempts. And Garbagekowski is coming off of two knee injuries and can’t stay on the field.
Garbagekowski is a backup QB and we can’t pass up a shot at McNabb, for the right price of course, because of Garbagekowski. No way, no how.
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:44 am
Mack: green list?
not me …
you’re probably thinking of Raider O!
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:44 am
I don’t understand this sage rosenfels talk.
I don’t want him At all. especially if it costs draft picks.
I’d rather bring in Troy smith or yancy thigpen
Or……
Bring back MARQUES TUIASASOPO !!!
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:48 am
What Dakota.
Grads fumbles every 30 attempts?
Russell fumbles every 27 attempts?
How many attempts per McFadden fumble?
Just curious…
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:48 am
Garbagekowski is a backup QB and we can’t pass up a shot at McNabb, for the right price of course, because of Garbagekowski. No way, no how.
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you’re right. If there is any way to get McNabb for a 2nd rounder (or maybe even less?) then you do it.
JaMarcus is trash. Bruce & Charlie are 3rd string journeyman types. I like having them as backups and I even like starting them over JaWalrus, but if you can get a 5x Pro Bowler at QB for less than a 1st rounder that still has 5 good years left in him, you do it!
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:49 am
I meant to greet u earlier
what up Dakota
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:50 am
mack-madden
Have you ever seen me state that McFadden’s fumbling is not an issue? Of course it is.
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:52 am
Mack: I’d take Sage for a 5th rounder over Troy Smith, but thats only if Donovan McNabb is either off the trade block or traded to another team (ie “not longer an option”)…
The Dolphins are very pleased with Tyler Thigpen. He’ll be competing (believe it or not) with Chad Pennington to be the 2nd stringer behind Chad Henne there. I wouldn’t trade for him unless it was for a 6th or 7th rounder – and it would take more than that to acquire him
Tui? *puke*
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:55 am
Def Leppard just came on the radio. rock on bretheren!
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:56 am
mack-madden
Ironically, and sadly, McFadden fumbles every 27 carries. Bush only every 72.
Adrian Peterson every 45 carries.
Tomlinson every 106 carries.
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:56 am
Offense has “swagger”
Among the other things that receiver Louis Murphy said on Chronicle Live was that new offensive coordinator Hue Jackson “brings a different swagger to the team.”
“He’s opened up the offense,” Murphy said. “We have so much talent on the field, we’ll be able to spread the ball around a lot.”
One thing that Jackson did successfully at Baltimore was use an unbalanced line at times.
“I believe we might do some of that stuff,” Murphy said. “We’re looking at different formations already. … that we can cause some confusion for defenses.”
-Vittorio Tafur (SF Gate)
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:56 am
What Up NATION?
When you get a moment, please read this link. a comparison Josh Freeman vs J. Russell.
very telling, but quite obvious.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/02/jamarcus-russell-could-learn-a-lot-from-josh-freeman/
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:58 am
If the McNabb deal did happen and the compensation was the 39 pick, they would not be in play for Gaither… unless they traded down in the first and used that pick to acquire him. Another scenario that has been bandied about is the Raiders switching first rounders with the Eagles in a deal for McNabb. That would allow the Raiders to keep their high second rounder which they could then send to Baltimore for GAITHER. Can only hope. Does anyone now the point scale for the eight pick compared to the 39th. Is swapping even in play?
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:58 am
i owuld take Troy Smith all day for a 5th Rd.
He was the starter in balt. Also he has a relationship with Hue Jack…. one thing for certain i would cut Leaf…
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:00 am
how does Hue Jackson plan to open up the offense, spread the ball around, bring swagger and cause confusion for defenses with JaMarcus Russell at QB?
we’re either:
1. trading for Donovan or Sage
2. drafting somebody
3. starting Bruce or Charlie
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:01 am
I don’t know. Sage never impressed me
with Troy smith there MIGHT be hope.
Tuiasasopo = I was just joking. Tho he is my fav QB in NFL. Or NOT in NFL.
I know everyone knows mcfadden has fumble issues.
A lot of RBs do. But dmac has more issues he needs to address than just fumbles.
Didn’t know yancy is a dolphin. He’s gonna beat out Chad henne IMO
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:02 am
Jackson will bring a way more to the table than cable.
Cable should have been fired last year for even suggesting a play to run….
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:03 am
Thats why I would have kept the 3rd pick. I am sorry but F wimbley. We could have used that other 3rd and gotten Pike, who I like better than lefevour. that would have solved our QB issues on the cheap….
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:03 am
defenses will greet JaMarcus with laughter as he trots his 290 pound frame into the huddle.
they’ll be confident, not confused.
JaMarcus will be the one confused…
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:04 am
starting russell will bring confusion…
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:05 am
How in the h3ll does a QB weigh 300 bills? WTF is that.
Josh freeman, whom i compare JRUSS to all the time is 6′6″ 248…WTF is that?
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:07 am
Louis Murphy = Bad Ass….Stand up Guy….
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:10 am
It’s easy to open up the offense. Just use all of the field. JaLoser only used 1/2 the field.
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:11 am
we have two 5th rounders.
if Hue Jackson wants Troy Smith and has complete control of the offense, I’m sure Al Davis will offer the Ravens a 5th rounder for him, especially since he has a cheap expiring contract (in case he sucks).
Everybody just assumes that Jackson wants Smith, but thats never been said. Flacco was the man under Jackson’s watch the past 2 years.
Troy Smith was drafted in 2007 before Hue Jackson joined the Ravens. Brian Billick is the one who wanted him!
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:14 am
It’s easy to open up the offense. Just use all of the field. JaLoser only used 1/2 the field.
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Exla: so the key to opening up the offense is taking the keys away from JaMarcus?
Agreed!
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:15 am
JaNokeys
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:16 am
if JaWalrus can get under 260 lbs (nobody knows what his actual weight is) by OTA’s he should be heavily fined.
is there a “weight clause” in his contract ???
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:18 am
CAN’T get under 260 lbs (post #448)
sorry
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:23 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:16 am
if JaWalrus can get under 260 lbs (nobody knows what his actual weight is) by OTA’s he should be heavily fined.
is there a “weight clause” in his contract ???
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He will be fined! The non-”G” part of his contract. Over $6 mil when AD does his best Donald Trump impersonation. “YOU”RE FIRED!!!”
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:24 am
even if JaButterworth shows up at OTA’s a chiseled 250 lbs and shows a little fire in the huddle…
if his accuracy, footwork, pocket awareness, ball security and chemistry with his receivers still sucks, we have no shot at winning 8 games this year and forget about challenging for the AFC West!
we need more than dedication at QB, we need TALENT
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:27 am
there is one reason I hope the Raiders keep JaMarcus Russell and let him play in preseason games.
I’m still waiting for one of the Raider faithful semi-pro bloggers in here to show up at a game in Oakland wearing a walrus costume in the black hole
that would be hilarious!
BSJ & Raider O chickened out last year …
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:28 am
The Giants signed 44-year-old Jeff Feagles this week.
Should we sign 42-year-old Jeff George ???
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:31 am
The Giants made two other moves Thursday, signing free agent safety Deon Grant, who played the past three seasons with Seattle, and rescinding their tender to restricted free agent safety C.C. Brown.
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Any chance the Raiders rescind the tenders on Morrison or Howard? on the market since March 5th with no visits to other clubs (yet)
too bad Luke Lawton & Hiram Eugene already signed theirs!
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:31 am
I supported Russell after his struggles in years 1 and 2. I was all about giving the kid a chance…even going so far as to post early year numbers of other QBs, such as Manning and Elway, showing that they too struggled at first.
But then came his missed OTAs last year, and at the time it was said he missed because of some surgery for his mommy, knee surgery to be exact and he missed a week, and I called BS, but everyone said hey chill out Dakota, if the team is okay with it so should you be…then he showed up at camp looking like a fat fuk, and I called BS on that too, but everyone said chill out Dakota, being fat is okay for a QB. Then he looked lost on the field.
I can stand a young player struggling, like McFadden and DHB, if they are out there working their asses off trying to stay in shape and get better. But once it was apparent that Russell is not interested in his profession and is nothing but a fat selfish slob that is stealing the Raiders’ money I turned on him. And Al Davis should turn on him too.
This can’t be about loyalty. Russell has insulted Al’s loyalty by not complying with the basic things a QB needs to do in the offseason to stay in shape and prepare for the season. The only thing keeping Russell in silver and black at this point is Al’s stubbornness in trying to prove Kiffin wrong about Russell.
There is no other explanation. Any other team would dump a player that has shown such disrespect to his profession, especially in a year where there is no cap ramification for cutting said player. Any other team would gladly cut the POS and save $18 million over the next two seasons and then trade for a QB like McNabb, who deserves that kind of money based on performance.
Al, you have lost your friggin mind if you don’t dump Russell and trade for McNabb.
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:38 am
dump Russell and trade for McNabb.
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but but but Donny don’t wanna play here! boo hoo.
get the walrus an o-line and he’ll have better stats than mcnabb.
bench dhb & trade dmac
JR will have 3000 yards & 30 td’s!
JR = the chosen one!
blame everybody BUT him …
right guys?
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:45 am
JaMarcus was a stud at LSU and the Raiders ruined him. It doesn’t matter if he got outplayed by 3 guys nobody else in the league wanted! it doesn’t matter if he’s fat and unmotivated. it doesn’t matter if he throws his players under the bus or if they think his game resembles a “horror show”. it doesn’t matter if he spends his offseason in the casinos or mardi gras festivals instead of the football field or gym. Al Davis drafted him so he deserves every bit of the blame for Russell’s off-field decisions, commitment to the game & team and performance in games that matter. it’s not Russell’s fault. He’s a great NFL QB
YOU PEOPLE: get over it!
signed, JaSpensive BustBacker
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:45 am
I say blame Canada… with their beady little eyes and the effin flapping heads.
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:46 am
I supported Russell last May when given the option of getting any jersey for my B-day from the wife, I selected an official black #2. Didn’t even make one year with it, as I was so sick of his act that after the Bengals game I shipped it off to an unknown blogger for the price of postage and about $6 bucks.
Should have ordered the Lincecum jersey.
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:48 am
I want an official AFL White throwback jersey with the silver #s… best jersey in football imo.
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:49 am
Bruce kept us competetive every game he started for us and with Hue Jack he’ll find even more effective ways to get our young playmakers involved, forget Bruce’s stats because Gannon didn’t have any when he came to us. Mcnabb in his prime had T.O. Westbrook a great D and Andy Reid calling the shots and he didn’t win the Superbowl so he aint winning it here. Let’s draft OL/DL and build a competetive team for years to come intead of getting a short term boost from a guy that doesn’t even wanna be here
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:50 am
back to reality…
trade the walrus for your best Donald Trump impersonation!
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:51 am
fat kidd Says:
April 1st, 2010 at 9:54 pm
they will not get mcnabb at all,he will retire if they try
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Yeah, he is going to give up tens of millions of dollars because it is so bad to play in Oakland. Get real.
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:53 am
Yeah, he is going to give up tens of millions of dollars because it is so bad to play in Oakland. Get real.
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Dakota: $11 million or risk your life playing behind Satele, Carlisle & Barnes?
he’s a football player. he’ll take the money! LOL
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:56 am
People don’t think that rah-rah stuff works, but with Bruce in the games, we fought hard until the end. The Dallas game was the worse game, a 24-7 loss. Bruce was fighting hard the end of that game to cover that 14 points spread!!!
Remember those Giants and Jets games? Real solid effort our squad put in. The first Broncos game and the Texans game wasn’t much better.
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:57 am
Henderson-hope he develops had guys blow past him later in the year
Gallery-hope he can stay healthy
Satele hope he improves didn’t look to have the
strength to handle decent DT’s
Chris Morris-got beat every snap
Barnes-never played RT before
put these guys w/ Mcnabb and you think he’ll take us to the playoffs? Mcnabb is much better than Aaron Brooks but similar to Brooks he won’t have time to 3 step drop
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:00 am
Aaron Brooks is light years better than JaMarcus Russell!
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:00 am
I think our defencies on O-line are way overexaggerated.
Our #1 blamer for all things offense, Cornell Green, got a pay-raise and a new gig, almost immediately.
Last 3 years in rushing, 6th, 10th, 21st with Justin Fargas getting the most carries of any back during those 3 years. Fargas can’t find a roster spot, and Cornell Green got a better job.
The proof is right there.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:02 am
Brooks is a land developer now …
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:03 am
At times last year, our O-line was our stregth of our offense.
It certainly wasn’t the QB, RB or WR’s.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:05 am
Sorry RaiderRockStar but:
“get the walrus an o-line and he’ll have better stats than mcnabb.”
Stop it. LMFAO! LMFAO! LMFAO! LMFAO! LMFAO! LMFAO! LMFAO! LMFAO! LMFAO! LMFAO! LMFAO! LMFAO!LMFAO! LMFAO! LMFAO! LMFAO! LMFAO! LMFAO! LMFAO! LMFAO! LMFAO! LMFAO! LMFAO! LMFAO!
Just stop it. LOL My sides hurt.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:07 am
Do you think Peyton Manning cares that he has already lost one O-line starter from last year, and that his LT has played less than 20 NFL or college games at LT?
Doubt it. He could have the university of Indiana O-line and still win games in the NFL.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:07 am
# Thec07 Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 8:07 am
Louis Murphy = Bad Ass….Stand up Guy….
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YUP! absolutly cables best draft pick…
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:13 am
At times last year, our O-line was our stregth of our offense.
It certainly wasn’t the QB, RB or WR’s.
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an O-Line is VERY important imo. I don’t think you have to spend 1st or 2nd rounders each year to have a fully functional one (we’ve had that discussion before), but you have to have players that fit your system and you have to have players that PRODUCE.
Guys like Satele, Carlisle, Barnes, Pears, Morris, etc don’t fit that category as starters imo. Henderson was awful AT TIMES last year (allowed the most sacks last year) and Gallery is excellent if he can stay healthy.
Just because Cornell Green landed a new starter job doesn’t mean he’ll produce there. See Gibril Wilson in Miami or DeAngelo Hall in Washington …
this offensive line doesn’t just need to be “coached up” by Cable. we need some friggin talented players there. I don’t care where we get them, just as long as we get them!
a solid OL makes or breaks the players you have at QB & RB. and a QB with no time to throw can’t get it to his WR’s so they can make plays (this still doesn’t excuse Russell for his accuracy, McFadden for his fumbles or the rookies for their dropped passes last year though). There were quite a few times where JR had plenty of time to throw and he really embarrassed himself
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:20 am
Trade for Gaither, draft William or Davis. Line fixed for ten years. At least the tackle spot. Gaither next to Gallery would be a good run blocking line.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:21 am
# mack-madden Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:48 am
What Dakota.
Grads fumbles every 30 attempts?
Russell fumbles every 27 attempts?
How many attempts per McFadden fumble?
Just curious…
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Turnovers are the NUMBER ONE cause of losses in the game of football. McFumblor coughs it up about every 20 attempts.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:21 am
Vegas: you always bring up Peyton Manning …
can you imagine Mark Sanchez behind our OL last year?
the rookie had 12 TD’s, 20 INT’s and completed under 54 percent of his passes with a solid O-Line and still made it to the AFC Championship game. he fumbled 8 times (losing 3) and had a QB Rating of 63!
the Jets blew us out in Oakland 38-0 last year
the point is, the O-Line can be a QB’s best friend or worst enemy. I live in Missouri. the Rams & Chiefs used to be very good football teams before their o-lines finally broke down.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:23 am
a solid OL makes or breaks the players you have at QB & RB
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Here’s my take on it. Peyton Manning will probably have 20+ guys start on the O-line for him over his career, maybe more.
The turnover is almost one guy a year if not more. But Peyton never changes year to year, and the Colts will never be the same when he leaves.
Is O-line important, absolutely. Especially if you don’t have the elite QB’s or RB’s to offset things.
But the last 4 SB teams, Steelers-Cards and Saints-Colts all have great QB’s, 1st round picks in the secondary and LB, WR and RB, and a bunch of nobodies and cast-offs at O-line.
After the Super Bowl, these teams tinker with the O-line and just wave some starters. Clearly, a super-starting RG can be found on a waiver-wire, because that is what is happening.
Elite RB and QB’s can’t. Look at the top rushers year in and year out, almost 3 out 4 will be former 1st rounders. Last was 7 out of the top 10.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:23 am
Sorry Peyton reference again, lol
No more I promise!!!
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:27 am
Rockstar,
Can you imagine the entire Jets offense trying to play the same way with our pathetic D?
They started off the Chargers playoff game with four 3 and outs!!! When we do that, we are down at least 10 points if not more.
The Jets D made their O-line better, simply by allowing them to not have to put up points. They could run it three times and punt and have no worries.
Eventually it took it’s toll on the opponent. Look for Sanchez and Green to be better this year, and if the defense isn’t better the team won’t be.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:27 am
Six months to go and you guys are still on here talking football.
Everyone wondering how we’re going to foul the draft up-the first pick anyway.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:28 am
Kurt Warner got banged around and eventually released from the Rams. Marc Bulger, Matt Hasselbeck, Trent Green in KC. Jon Kitna in Detroit
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:29 am
Personally I’m looking forward to baseball.
The Giants finally figured out that it takes pitching-and they’ve got some good ones.
You’re right Vegas, you should have gone for LIncecum’s jersey.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:34 am
Jeff Saturday is a castoff? Steve Hutchinson is another castoff right? So the Steelers won the superbowl with an average OL but they had a young mobile tough qb solid running game and great D
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:34 am
Please EnglandRaider, NO SF Giants references on this board, unless it is in mocking disdain for them. On this side of SF Bay it is the A’s and Raiders, on that side, the Whiners and Joints. Why do we call the SF Giants the Joints? Because if they are not getting rolled, they’re getting smoked.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:34 am
Vegas: the Raiders O-Line gave up 49 sacks last year
is that acceptable?
the Colts O-Line gave up 13 …
the Saints O-Line gave up 20 …
the Jets O-Line gave up 30 …
the Vikings O-Line gave up 34 …
and you know old man Favre can’t escape pressure like he used to. and Mark Sanchez probably made at least a few rookie mistakes and took sacks instead of throwing it away or checking down
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:34 am
Rockstar,
QB’s get banged around in the NFL, it is a way of life.
It’s not like Warner went to the Arizona Cardinals and benefitted from some great O-line. He got some play-makers and put up enought points to make a run for a few years, and got banged around again and retired.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:35 am
Jeff Saturday was undrafted
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:35 am
McNabb is a step backwards. He’s too old and never plays the whole season. We shouldn’t trade Aso OR give up any picks for him.
We’ve been building a younger, more aggressive team. Build the picks and keep drafting players.
Some of Al’s later picks like Murphy have been good.
Is McNabb better than Russell?
By far but everyone’s better than Russell.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:35 am
Morning Nation
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:37 am
And the Steelers were dead-last in sacks allowed and in the bottom 5 of rushing the year they won the Bowl.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:37 am
SB:
I’m a Giant fan and always will be. I like the A’s and I’ve been to many of their games but I stay with the Giants who may just win the division this year if Freddie Sanchez can hold up.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:38 am
Go Giants!!!
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:38 am
Go A’s!!!!
Justin Deusher looked great last night.
Hopefully is doesn’t get re-injured.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:38 am
he
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:40 am
BEAT LA! BEAT LA! BEAT LA!
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:40 am
In addition to FS Ken Hamlin, the Cowboys will be releasing LT Flozell Adams on Friday afternoon.
Source: Dallas Morning News
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Flozell???????????????
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:41 am
Barry Bonds is the greatest!!!!
A’s were full of cheaters in ‘89. They deserve an asterik.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:41 am
And the Steelers were dead-last in sacks allowed and in the bottom 5 of rushing the year they won the Bowl.
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Vegas: you brought up Super Bowl teams, not me. Please don’t revert back to the Steelers. you just said Colts & Saints, right?
well if the Colts & Saints don’t have solid o-lines, how come they gave up a COMBINED 33 sacks compared the the Raiders 49 ???
Guard Ryan Lilja wasn’t released because he was a scrub. He was released because they had capable backups in place (Kyle DeVan & Mike Pollak). the Colts are good at finding talent to fit their scheme. the Raiders are not
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:42 am
MCNabb is better than most QBs in the NFL. I say Manning, Favre, Drew, and that Preppie System QB from Mich are better. That’s it.
Damn you Mch!!
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:42 am
LMN? you out there?
I recall you promised me a beer if the Raiders won eight games as I stupidly predicted.
Just as well I didn’t confirm the bet.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:43 am
Get Flozell!!!
5 time Pro Bowler at LT.
Watch Cornell Green get a better deal than Adams.
Why would the ‘Boys just cut him?
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:43 am
I just think if we used the money we would spend on Mcnabb on some trades or FA Olineman, draft heavy OL/DL we’d be better off then having Mcnabb killed in our backfield because were a Gallery injury away from looking like we did with Aaron Brooks and Randy Moss
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:44 am
Vegas, the Giants don’t need Bonds they’ve got the Panda–Bonds without the attitude.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:45 am
Louis Murphy is the Raiders’ spokesperson on Hue Jack and JaMarginal and the state of the Raider offense? Don’t think I’d be etching those Gator observations in granite just yet. Prefer to hear what Hue Jack has to say on these matters (and yes I am well aware that in Raiderland coordinators aren’t made available too often).
Enough with the Donovan McRosenfels stuff. We already have one DMc causing us to drown our sorrows and although the Raiders might be in need of some sage counsel, a “never was” QB by that name ain’t it.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:45 am
Another Raiders – SF Giants fan here. Maybe we’re not quite as rare as I originally thought.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:45 am
oh yes, and a Good Friday to you all.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:46 am
RR,
Ryan Lijia was a waiver-wire pickup, brought in for 16 games and released again. He is a srub, not drafted and now 3 times released.
Colts and Saints don’t give up sacks because they have NFL egg-heads at QB who know what the D is doing at all times. The ball comes out quickly, and blitzing really doesn’t even help.
Intersting note, both teams use a TON of shotgun, probably more so than just about any other teams. That has to help a little as well.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:46 am
Ryan Lilja played 5 full seasons.
DeVan played 1. Pollak played 2.
younger & fresher players have been groomed to take over … they don’t grab other teams trash in free agency like we do
Henderson, Gallery & Morris were all drafted by Oakland and they were probably our most impressive O-Lineman last year (which isn’t saying much)
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:48 am
The cowboys just released flozell adams the raiders must have him so we can go d line in the first round and trade our 2nd and morrison for mcnabb. Both lines would be set with a first round lineman and flozell.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:48 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:44 am
Vegas, the Giants don’t need Bonds they’ve got the Panda–Bonds without the attitude.
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Pablo has to hit .330 or this offense is in trouble. I hope this Posey kid can rake, and maybe a trade deadline pickup will help us down the stretch.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:49 am
Go A’s!!!!!
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:50 am
Big Banana:
Apart from Bill King, who’s the greatest Bay Area baseball announcer ever?
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:52 am
The Bash Brothers were actually Roid Brothers.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:52 am
Ryan Lijia was a waiver-wire pickup, brought in for 16 games and released again. He is a srub, not drafted and now 3 times released.
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2 times released. a scrub?
The Colts re-signed Lilja on February 19, 2008, to a five-year deal worth $20 million.
He started 59 of 66 games for them and two Super Bowls.
the Chiefs are good at evaluating talent? he never played for them anyways. an undrafted player (2004) didn’t make their practice squad and the Colts IDENTIFIED him as talent and started him as a rookie
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:53 am
Vegas, that guy is amazing with that 330 average last year. Really consistent, He can also hit it into the Bay like Bonds. As I said he’s Bonds without that lousy attitude.
Freddie on second is the best second baseman since Jeff Kent.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:54 am
The Bash Brothers were actually Roid Brothers.
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Yeah, and so was everyone else in the league hitting 40+ homers during that era.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:54 am
Jon Miller
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:55 am
EnglandRaider,
Lon Simmons.
When Lon and the Great Bill King worked together as the A’s radio team it was a helluva pleasure to listen in.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:56 am
I’m sorry, but Miller is soooooooooooo boring. The game is slow as it is and he doesn’t make it any better, IMO.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:57 am
In that 1989 World Series folks showed up at the park with caps split down the middle-half A’s and half Giants because they supported both teams.
Maybe they shouldn’t have done that-it caused an earthquake.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:57 am
Peyton Manning & Drew Brees make their entire team better. I’d be ignorant to debate that.
but the Raiders don’t have a QB on the roster as good as Jay Cutler, Kyle Orton or Matt Cassel, much less one of the league’s best. a rediculous comparison
so if we’re gonna stick with the bums we have at QB, why don’t give them some better protection? why not give McBush some running lanes? at least give them A SHOT at success!
Vegas: if we trade our 2nd rounder for McNabb and use our 1st & 3rd round picks on defense, how much success can he have in Oakland behind Satele, Carlisle & Barnes? Can we compete for the AFC West ???
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:58 am
M Lonetree.
You are ABSOLUTELY right!!! And I agree with your other comment too. When they worked together it was unbelievably good.
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:59 am
Ahhh, of course. Lon Simmons. “Tell it goodbye”
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:00 am
what about the pithers that were juiced?
Roger Clemens, is a liar and a disgrace….
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:00 am
Kruk and Kuip!!!
Great a seat, meat!!!
Lon Simmons was pretty sweet, and I always hated Ron Fairly when I was a kid.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:01 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 9:35 am
McNabb is a step backwards. He’s too old and never plays the whole season. We shouldn’t trade Aso OR give up any picks for him.
We’ve been building a younger, more aggressive team. Build the picks and keep drafting players.
Some of Al’s later picks like Murphy have been good.
Is McNabb better than Russell?
By far but everyone’s better than Russell.
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It is simply not possible for McNabb to be a step backwards from Garbagekowski or Russell…that is silly.
But I understand your point about wanting to build up the young team, and five years ago I would have agreed with you.
However, there is a deeper issue at play right now; perception.
McNabb isn’t going to come in and win us a SB, we all know that. However, he could come in here and take us from the bottom to a respectable 9, 10 or 11 win team for a few years. That alone would be worth McNabb’s weight in gold. Players that wouldn’t have touched Oakland would suddenly be flocking back to us if McNabb could just make us respectable. McNabb could change the perception players have about Oakland.
It might help heal this dying franchise. We could still pick up a tackle in round 1 and a G in round 3 or 4. Or we could sign a couple veteran o-linemen prior to camp. Right now saving the franchise’s image is more important than trying to build a young team. We blew that chance, now we have to pull in some vets and get our respect back and get players to start considering the Raiders as a desirable destination again.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:01 am
“Grab a seat”…….lol a little excited there.
Wasn’t Lon’s, “and you can tell it goodbye”?
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:02 am
Anyone still watch boxing??????
I hope the rejuvenated Sugar Shane beats the schit out of Mayweather.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:02 am
If you dont build the o-line we will have anotehr losing season. Just that simple. If you want a QB use one of the 3rds you have and get Pike. opps we gave away a 3rd to get wimbley? Mcnabb comes at too steep a price. we arent going to the playoffs with an o-line no matter who is under center. Mcnabb will last 4 games with this front 5.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:03 am
Vegas: if we trade our 2nd rounder for McNabb and use our 1st & 3rd round picks on defense, how much success can he have in Oakland behind Satele, Carlisle & Barnes? Can we compete for the AFC West ???
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If we do well with those two picks on D, I guarantee Vegas will have us the second favorite to win the division, and up our expected wins line from 5 to 8.
We should compete, and have an expectation that we can win it.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:03 am
If that phenomenal evaluator of talent T Cable inserts a certain McF as his every down back that translates to one fumble per game (that is statistic).
Given the turnover woes of the present crop of QBs…
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:03 am
Lon Simmons was great with that sarcastic humor he had. He didn’t worry about using it on the players either.
Didn’t Al Michaels do the Giants for awhile?
I hate the Dodgers but that Vin Scully is something-three hundred years old and still doing it.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:04 am
Dakota,
What do you think about Flozell Adams?
He’s been released.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:04 am
Should be a great fight England.
I still like “Money” Mayweather. Just can’t hit him squarely in the face, too elusive.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:04 am
“And you can tell it goodbye!”
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:06 am
Too young to have listened to Lon in his heyday with SF. Remember him working some SF broadcasts in the late 90s.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:06 am
Vegas,
Sugar Shane is looking good. IMO
Still has that quickness.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:07 am
DMAC:
I’m pulling for that too but I wouldn’t bet on it.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:08 am
I just hope it’s a good fight and not no bullschit.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:09 am
We’ve been building a younger, more aggressive team. Build the picks and keep drafting players.
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Russell (1st overall), McFadden (4th overall) & Heyward-Bey (7th overall) were supposed to be our versions of Aikman, Smith & Irvin.
instead they are getting outplayed by Bruce Gradkowski (3rd stringer), Mike Bush (4th rounder) & Louis Murphy (4th rounder)
this team hasn’t been using the draft well in recent years or doesn’t develop the talent upon arrival. Either way, this team hasn’t won more than 5 games in 7 years!
Al Davis built what he thought would be a gold mine and it turned out to be a huge pile of crap instead. Bring in McNabb. He’s proven. Shoot, if we’re just planning to draft Bruce Campbell in the Top 10 give Philly our 1st rounder! no need to set this franchise back any further …
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:11 am
Anyone have the latest on Morrison and Howard???????
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:14 am
DMAC,
Adams is old, 34, and gives up lots of sacks and has as many penalties as C. Green.
I would kick his tires at RT if he is willing to give it a shot at a low price, he might give up fewer sacks and have fewer false starts playing against LDEs…but otherwise I would steer clear.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:15 am
Flozell Adams, the master of the Matador Block.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:16 am
Went to a double header at the Colusium once and the Bash Brothers were hitting homers at an unbelievable-more than we realized-pace.
We had to leave after the first game but as we’re walking down the ramp to BART we can hear the second game started and they were hitting them out again.
That was when pitchers we’re throwing to McGuire’s head and Canseco kept telling him, droids kicking in, “you’ve got to be more aggressive”.
Be AGGRESSIVE!
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:18 am
Rockstar,
when all else fails there’s still hoping for O-line in ‘010!
How can Al resist drafting his cousin Anthony Davis at #8?
Got me to thinking about the wayward idea to choose DHB at #7. If I was a rich old dude who was gonna be required to pay an ungodly sum of money to a young man would I prefer to hand the cash to a good young man or give it to a selfish punk (Crabs)? My money would not go to the punk.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:18 am
Stephen Curry Named Western Conference Rookie Of The Month For March
Warriors Guard Averaged 19.8 Points, 4.3 Rebounds, 7.3 Assists And 1.79 Steals In 14 Games
ROY??????????? (Whatch out Evans!)
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:18 am
LT Flozell Adams had 8 sacks allowed, 3 holding calls & 6 false starts last year.
12 penalties for 95 yards in all.
LT Mario Henderson had 10.5 sacks allowed, 2 holding calls & 1 false start last year.
3 penalties for 25 yards in all.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:19 am
McNabb would give credibility to our passing offense, and force teams to play us honest, instead of stacking 9 in the box and daring us to pass the ball, and hell if he beats SD once he is worth his weight in gold to me.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:20 am
I’ll keep Henderson!
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:21 am
At this stage of his career I doubt that Flozell could beat out Barry Sims.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:23 am
Hey 4EVa!
Beer me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:23 am
I’ll keep Henderson!
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no kidding. I’ll give him a 3 sack discount since Bob Gallery was out 3/4 of the season and was probably playing at less than 100% when he actually was out there … plus J Russ is about as nimble as a Rhino
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:26 am
Here’s an interesting take on things, well worth the read….
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/372147-oakland-raiders-why-al-davis-is-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:27 am
We need to get some of these pro ready youngsters in the fold on the oline. F flozell adams and the horse he rides. We need Oline but not at the exspense of bring in old garbage….
that said;
Rd 1. Oline – T Williams.
Rd 2. DLine – Best Available DT / Lots of depth here, fyi Dan williams will be long gone….
Rd 3. Best guard on the board.
Rd 3b. QB Tony Pike / via morrison trade.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:27 am
The troube with Al and the draft is that Al is a gambling man.
Lord Al was born a gambling man………du a loo..
Trying to make a living and doing the best he can.
When it’s time to leave us, he hopes we’ll understand
Al was born a gambling man…
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:28 am
Rockstar,
“…nimble as a rhino.”
bon mot. LOL
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:31 am
Last year at this time, I canceled the internet & the one eyed hypnotist. I didnt get any Raider news for almost 6 months.
We had won our last two games and JR was headed to stardom. The future looked bright, real bright.
I get back right before the start of the season and ask how things are going at practice. Only to hear theres little news other then JR cant hit 3 out of 7 at 7 on 7 pass drills and some guy named Southwick is poised to take his place.
So what the hell happedned to JR last offseason?
Laziness?
Drugs?
Robitussian? robi makes the most sense
I am just hoping like hell he snaps out of it.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:32 am
The first two picks should look like this……….
1st- Roland McClain or Dan Williams
2nd- Trade for Gaither and move him to RT
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:35 am
With the depth at oline in this years draft that 3rd round pick we gave for that wimbley guy was huge…
Wimbley is on the last year of his contract, and i know we wont be franchise tag him…
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:35 am
some guy named Southwick is poised to take his place.
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plunk: Southwick is an intern now.
Al Davis never gave him the same shot he did Bruce & Charlie to slay the walrus …
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:37 am
Dakota:
Hey! How you and the family doing up there in the wilderness? Didn’t see your comment.
“McNabb isn’t going to come in and win us a Superbowl”?
He wouldn’t even come in and play the whole year. He hasn’t completed as season in six years.
Is he better than Gradowski? Yes. He’s one of the ten best quarterbacks playing but as someone said he’s number ten.
Plus he’s 34 next birthday and he’s used to a West Coast offense-and we all know that Al LOVES those short passing schemes.
I’m amazed that some want to bring him in to tutor Russell.
The only thing we need to tell Russell is when the next plane leaves.
Keep the pick. We should have drafted down last year if only that Al is better on the later rounds.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:40 am
SUH > McCoy > Williams > Cody
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:41 am
Tell me what yall think
Rd.1- Rolando McClain ILB: Man the middle of the field and is an excellent run stopper and coach on the field
Rd.2- Vlad Ducasse OT/OG: Has the ability to play either Tackle spot or Guard and we have a need for both. Very raw but has all the tools to be a starter at LT one day.
Rd.3- Ciron Black OT: Has all the press clippings and intangibles but just something missing. He is an excellent run blocker and projects to right tackle due to his limited range and sometimes slow feet. 4 year starter at tackle in the SEC, played against top competition and was a team leader.
Rd.4- Cam Thomas DT: Has great physicals tools but is one of those guys that is not flashy and didnt put up great numbers and as a result may slip on draft day. Is a true run stopper and must constantly be double teamed.
Rd.5- Mike Williams WR: Physically one of the most talented wideouts in the draft, just can’t seem to get it together upstairs. If not for us taking a chance on him, he would probably go undrafted. Has great size and speed, is tough, has great hands, and knows how to get open. Comes from Al’s alma mater. Also look for Riley Cooper here if he is available.
Rd.5- Trindon Holliday RB: Speed, speed, and more speed. Is an exceptional return man and adds depth at the RB and WR positions. Is very small but has the potetional to be an effective runner in Darren Sproles style. Will be drafted on speed and return ability alone.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:42 am
true Thec. I never thought of that
we could have contract issues with McNabb, Seymour & Wimbley next year … plus whoever else we haven’t recently traded for!
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:43 am
McNabb is a step backwards. He’s too old and never plays the whole season. We shouldn’t trade Aso OR give up any picks for him.
We’ve been building a younger, more aggressive team. Build the picks and keep drafting players.
Some of Al’s later picks like Murphy have been good.
Is McNabb better than Russell?
By far but everyone’s better than Russell.
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Name me a qb in this draft or in drafts to come that will bring the type confidence and leadership to this team that mcnabb will??? Mcnabbs dang near a hall of famer. Just having him in your locker room is gonna boost this team, he doesn’t even have to play every game to have an impact. You’re crazy for the statements you just made. Mcnabbs better than alot of qbs, beyond russel… he’s top 5 outta 32 come on now get real.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:45 am
Would someone please lock Cable and Hansen and Russell and Lawton and Hiram in a small windowless room with a high ceiling and a single caged bare bulb for the next eight weeks or so.
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:45 am
severe: i’ll buy that. nice mock
However, give me FB John Conner in RD5 instead of Mike Williams …
we need a blocking fullback, not another young WR for Sanjay Lal to groom!
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:52 am
Mcnabbs better than alot of qbs, beyond russel… he’s top 5 outta 32 come on now get real.
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Passing Yards:
1 Matt Schaub Hou 4770
2 Peyton Manning Ind 4500
3 Tony Romo Dal 4483
4 Aaron Rodgers GB 4434
5 Tom Brady NE 4398
Passing TD’s:
1 Drew Brees NO 34
2 Brett Favre Min 33
2 Peyton Manning Ind 33
4 Aaron Rodgers GB 30
5 Matt Schaub Hou 29
Completion Percentage:
1 Drew Brees NO 70.6 ( 363/514 )
2 Peyton Manning Ind 68.8 ( 393/571 )
3 Brett Favre Min 68.4 ( 363/531 )
4 Matt Schaub Hou 67.9 ( 396/583 )
5 Ben Roethlisberger Pit 66.6 ( 337/506 )
QB Rating:
1 Drew Brees NO 109.6
2 Brett Favre Min 107.2
3 Philip Rivers SD 104.4
4 Aaron Rodgers GB 103.2
5 Ben Roethlisberger Pit 100.5
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:54 am
PHILADELPHIA (AP) The Philadelphia Eagles have traded cornerback Sheldon Brown and linebacker Chris Gocong to the Cleveland Browns for linebacker Alex Hall and two draft picks.
The Eagles will receive picks in the fourth (105th) and fifth (137th) rounds in the upcoming NFL draft. The deal was announced Friday.
Brown has been a longtime starter for the Eagles, but was unhappy with his contract situation. Gocong had just signed a one-year deal.
Hall played two seasons with the Browns, starting just two games.
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think the Browns are still in play for Joe Haden ???
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:54 am
If one adds all of the QB ratings together for JaFryeski does it come to 100?
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:57 am
If one adds all of the QB ratings together for JaFryeski does it come to 100?
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I doubt it. Wasn’t the QB Rating for JaBacon negative eight ???
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:58 am
are the Eagles making room for Nnamdi ?
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:01 am
are the Eagles making room for Nnamdi ?
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Eagles GM Howie Roseman confirmed Friday that Ellis Hobbs is in line to replace Sheldon Brown as the club’s starting right cornerback.
The Birds will also target the position early in April’s draft, but are clearly confident in Hobbs’ recovery from neck surgery. The 27-year-old has flashed top-notch cover skills, but has always been inconsistent. A Patrick Robinson or Kyle Wilson figures to be strongly considered at No. 24 overall.
Source: Jeff McLane on Twitter
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:02 am
Take JaM’s Qb rating and divide it by Vince Young’s wonderlic score then add a can of McChunky soup and subtract Tommie Kelly’s contract and voila! you have nothing!
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:03 am
Rockstar,
If we trade Nnamdi and don’t get much more than McNabb I might kill someone.
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:04 am
Sorry I have spent the last hour polishing my 1989 World Series ring the A’s org gave me. What were you guys saying about the SF Joints?
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:04 am
If we’re not making a move for McNabb, we seriously need to look at tradind our 2nd for Gaither.
Would be a great pick up for a 2nd.
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:04 am
If Suh does drop to eight then we should pick him-assuming we haven’t given up the pick for McNabb.
Personally I’d like to see us get McCoy.
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:04 am
great news DMAC!
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:05 am
I want McNabb but he has had his week moments:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQo6zt3bWlM
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:06 am
I really don’t want to kill anyone, but you know…raider induced insanity defense might just work…
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:07 am
that’s weak moments. Damn spell check.
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:07 am
I really don’t want to kill anyone, but you know…raider induced insanity defense might just work…
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“Al Davis made me do it!”
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:09 am
Dakota Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:03 am
Rockstar,
If we trade Nnamdi and don’t get much more than McNabb I might kill someone.
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True words… doing bone head moves and stupid draft choices makes me want to go out and b10w sH!T up…
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:09 am
Dakota: you should watch the draft on a big screen TV at Best Buy
that way if you feel the need to smash a TV, there are plenty to choose from, none of which belong to you!
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:12 am
Dakota,
I doubt that defense would work as you live in Donkey territory. More’n likely you’d be pilloried for just associating with the Raiders.
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:12 am
Thec: you want to blow something up?
see if you can find scout Randy Hanson’s parking spot at Raider HQ …
easy target. plus they’ll think it was Davis or Cable!
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:12 am
rock, thats my problem i have zero TV’s left….
Plasma’s and LCD’s arent built like the old CRT based Televisions…
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:14 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:09 am
Dakota: you should watch the draft on a big screen TV at Best Buy
that way if you feel the need to smash a TV, there are plenty to choose from, none of which belong to you!
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The police will be searching for the guy with the Raiders ski cap lol
Actually, last year when they drafted DHB, I pretty much just laughed in disbelief and stopped watching the rest of the first round…normally I don’t miss a pick.
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:16 am
One of the “big 3″ is going to be available at 8. we have a tough decision. Another factor is someone is going to come knocking for that pick, as a move up.
Although I want oline at 8, if SUH is on the board i take him all day. One of our 3 stand up guys Seymour likes him.
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:18 am
We need to seriously use our 1st pick on the best player available and trade our 2nd for Gaither.
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:18 am
49er fans react to DHB selection:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf2b_kuGnDY
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:19 am
last years’s draft I shut it down after the DHB pick.
No reason to keep watching. the 2nd pick was even better, glad i ddind see that wtf moment… would
have basebasll batted my remaining TV…
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:19 am
Severe,
If I’m picking in the 2nd I don’t want a project that I may have to move to guard. A guy like that gets picked later if I’m drafting.
Also, not sure about the Ciron Black love in here. Every time I’ve seen him play he looks like his feet are in concrete boots. Yeah, he’s big, but that guy ain’t blocking NFL defensive ends. They are way too quick for him.
I like the Cam Thomas pick, but I think we’ll have to get him before the 4th round. Trindan Holliday would be great, and for exactly the reasons you mention.
I still think we need an upgrade at center, and if we’re going to take a guard we should take a real one, not a potential one.
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:19 am
1 Matt Schaub Hou 4770 – Never led team to a playoff
2 Peyton Manning Ind 4500
3 Tony Romo Dal 4483 – Biggest achievement won one playoff game
4 Aaron Rodgers GB 4434 – one playoff game biggest achievment
5 Tom Brady NE 4398
Passing TD’s:
1 Drew Brees NO 34
2 Brett Favre Min 33
2 Peyton Manning Ind 33
4 Aaron Rodgers GB 30
5 Matt Schaub Hou 29
Completion Percentage:
1 Drew Brees NO 70.6 ( 363/514 )
2 Peyton Manning Ind 68.8 ( 393/571 )
3 Brett Favre Min 68.4 ( 363/531 )
4 Matt Schaub Hou 67.9 ( 396/583 )
5 Ben Roethlisberger Pit 66.6 ( 337/506 )- didn’t make playoff
QB Rating:
1 Drew Brees NO 109.6
2 Brett Favre Min 107.2
3 Philip Rivers SD 104.4- overated
4 Aaron Rodgers GB 103.2
5 Ben Roethlisberger Pit 100.5
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Stats mean nothing. Im talking top 5 when it comes to winning. The only qb’s on that list that are better than mcnabb are Brady, brett, brees,and manning… Leaving the #5 spot to mcnabb.
Aaron rodgers is not better than mcnabb, matt schuab is not better than mcnabb, rivers is overated, and ask dallas fans about tony homo.
1.Brees
2. favre
3. brady
4. manning
5. mcnabb
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:20 am
Whoops! I mean McClain!
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:23 am
Thec:
I know what you mean about LCD tv’s.
They’re nowhere near as much fun to shoot as those old tube tv’s.
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:24 am
This drunk raider fan is a better GM than Al Davis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBaa1iPJ3lE
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:28 am
Stats mean nothing. Im talking top 5 when it comes to winning.
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Vikings, Packers, Saints, Colts, Chargers & Cowboys won just as many games (11) as the Eagles last year.
and McNabb was 0-3 against Tony Romo last year
how does this make him a Top 5 QB?
Donovan is not a Top 5 QB in any category …
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:29 am
The Eagles are showing McNabb his market value to re-sign him themselves.
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:30 am
TCPH:
McNabb is good. He’s in the top ten quarterbacks playing-but he’s #10 and hasn’t played a complete season in six years. He’s also nearly 34 and not worth Aso.
Are there better in the draft. No don’t think so.
However, in every game that Gradowski started last year we we’re in it to win.
McNabb-as good as he is-just isn’t worth Aso or the 8th pick.
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:31 am
“Hey Nabb, you’d better take our offer or we’ll ship your assz to the Raiders!!!”
-Eagles GM
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:31 am
fill me in, why are we naming ex raiders?
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:31 am
Kell:
your boy JaMarcus bested Donovan last year.
remember that sweet spin move?
I know you’re an avid Limbaugh listener too, so you must think Donovan McNabb is overrated …
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:33 am
rrs
wassup wit the old players?
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:33 am
KK:
The Eagles are the ones pushing the Raiders name out there to get a better deal for McNabb.
Nothing like driving the price up.
Actually, the whole idea that they’ve got this guy on the market is pathetic.
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:34 am
i have a few old favs. dokie williams, sammy seal, fulton walker, ricky dudley. leo araguz
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:34 am
fill me in, why are we naming ex raiders?
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on Jerry Mac’s previous post (yesterday) one of us semi-pro bloggers asked us to fill in a depth chart of All-Time great Raiders. it turned sarcastic pretty quickly and everybody started naming awful Raiders just to be silly. I gotta admit- several names had me laughing!
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:35 am
rockstar
oh ok. thanks buddy. have a nice easter bro.
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:36 am
you too buddy…
leaving so soon?
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:37 am
JaLosers spin move
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6kK73wpGNM&feature=related
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:37 am
darien gordon, johnnie morant, carlos francis, cole ford(i hope i dont get shot for naming him)
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:38 am
Thec07 Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:19 am
last years’s draft I shut it down after the DHB pick.
No reason to keep watching. the 2nd pick was even better, glad i ddind see that wtf moment… would
have basebasll batted my remaining TV…
^^^^^^^^
Yep….talk about a freakin buzz kill!
I wouldn’t surprise me if it happened again this year…..this is the time of the draft process where the old man starts to meddle and not listen to the scouts and coaches….and becomes enamored with workout warriors who have good to great straight line 40 times who were not productive in college and have limited football skills and experience.
Put me down for OT BRUCE CAMPBELL as who I think Al will pick! LOL
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:38 am
Kell,
I don’t think so. The Eagles want to move on with the Kolb era.
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:38 am
USC LT Charles Brown managed just 20 reps of 225 pounds on the bench press at the Trojans’ Pro Day.
NFL.com’s Gil Brandt also had Brown at 5.21 in the forty, 32″ in the vertical, and 8′5″ in the long jump. Brown’s 35-inch arms make bench pressing harder, but his total would’ve ranked among the worst at the Scouting Combine. It’s more proof that he may need a half or full year to develop into a starter.
Source: NFL.com
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At least we know Uncle Al isn’t drafting this Trojan.
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:39 am
darien gordon
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nice one! I forgot about him …
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:40 am
Teach
nice points, but IMO Ducasse isn’t a project he just needs polishing. I have him at left tackle and thus far he hasn’t done anything to show me he can’t play there. The nice thing about him is that if the Raiders are hell bent on Mario playing LT, Ducasse can play RG. The thing I love about Ducasse is that he has all the tools and a tireless work ethic. I would rather have Ducasse in the second than Davis in the first. Ducasse has a zeal and enthusiasm for the game that few can match. When he talks about football his face just lights up and you can see how much he loves playing. We need more players like him.
I hear you with Ciron Black and I think I mentioned his slow feet. I like him as a right tackle though, because he is a overpowering run blocker and is extremely smart. He will more than likely be playing next to a new starter at RG if he wins the job at RT and will have to learn fast, I believe he has the ability to do so. He played against top competition at LSU and more than held his own against the top pass rushers in the SEC and Gholston in the national championship game. Playing at right tackle I believe will mask some of his weaknesses and jump start our running game
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:40 am
You’ve gotta love that youtube video of Russell sacking himself-unless you’re part of the Nation.
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:40 am
rockstar
no, just looking over some of the posts. just wanted to get that out of the way. we’ve had several disagreements, and i insulted you, and shouldn’t have, so i figured i’d extend an olive branch. you’re a very good poster and i enjoy reading your thoughts. as long as they’re not in the negative in regards to my boy MM. lol
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:40 am
Everyone in the Raider Nation, Happy Easter! Se safe!
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:41 am
I’ll take Charles Brown at RT in RD2!
i’m telling you guys. either Brown or Campbell will be there at #39 (but probably not both)
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:42 am
you too Exla!
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:44 am
NE: it’s all good
MM34 = the jury is still out
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:44 am
Dakota
The Kolb era? What’s that? Nah, I don’t believe that. I think they are hard-balling NcNabb.
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:46 am
RR,
Why not trade our 2nd for Gaither and move him to RT. Seems like a no-brainer to me. Gaither is young and has proven himself that he can play LT in the NFL?
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:47 am
I don’t blame guys in here for supporting Mike Mitchell.
McFadden, Heyward-Bey, Morrison & CJ are all still on the Rockstar scholarship program and I take a little heat for that every now & then, but that’s ok
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:47 am
rockstar
i think MM will be decent. i like him blitzing. but anyway i am anxious to see DHB. hopefully he doesn’t have the dreaded sophomore slump. lol. can get any worse. can he?
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:47 am
KoolKell Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:44 am
Dakota
The Kolb era? What’s that? Nah, I don’t believe that. I think they are hard-balling NcNabb.
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Should we make this interesting? Say, if McNabb remains with the Eagles in 2010 I get you a Russell jersey, and if McNabb is not with the Eagles in 2010 you get me a McFadden jersey?
Both jerseys should be dirt cheap on the secondary market!
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:48 am
Gaither should be our guy at RT.
http://www.tfdssports.com/2010-articles/april/raiders-in-play-for-ravens-ot-gaither.html
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:49 am
DMAC: I’ll take Jared Gaither for a 2nd rounder any day of the week!
…unless we can get McNabb instead
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:49 am
rrs
i also think that CJ isn’t that bad. he blew a few coverages, but for the most part when he was beat, he was in pretty damn good position. i would love to see him play the slot when routt comes in. when routt plays the outside, he is pretty damn good at times. slot is another story
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:51 am
Nnamdi needs to take command of the secondary and slap the schit out of Routt when he’s looking lost out there in the slot!
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:54 am
Word is Gaithier is lazy, that is why the Ravens want to trade him instead of placing him at another spot on the line. Should fit right in with Russell and Co.
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:55 am
rrs
as far as morrison, i think ive seen enough. maybe if we get a stud DT he’d be better, but i just dont know. to me, he takes very, very poor angles. there could be a guy who gets outside or whatever lets say at the 25 yrd line, kirk will be at the 28, but a yard or two towards other end of field, instead of morrison meeting the dude say at the 28, he’ll go towards the area the guy is in, like he’s going to wait for kirk, and then he goes by him. i just don’t think he is savvy enough to play mlb. that being said, does it matter if it’s mlb, olb? his angles are piss poor at times. think back two yrs ago, he and howard were balling. this year they sh!t the bed. kirk did rack up some tackles, but when your defense plays 45 minutes, someone is going to have good numbers. i take it you think if we had a dominant DT kirk would be better?
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:56 am
Get Gaither and start him at LT. Draft A RT. Henderson is in the last year of his contract and his agent is Drew R. Plus he regressed last year. Gaither is far superior.
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:56 am
i am anxious to see DHB. hopefully he doesn’t have the dreaded sophomore slump. lol. can get any worse. can he?
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9 catches & 6 drops for his rookie season is pretty bad. hard to imagine what a soph slump would even look like!
I’m expecting something like 34 catches, 521 yards & 4 TD’s. nothing earth shattering, but progress nonetheless. and those will be pretty solid stats if Higgins, Schilens & Miller can stay healthy this season. Chaz missed half the season with a broken bone in his foot. Zach Miller had 2 concussions. Nick Miller missed the entire year with shin splints or something. Higgins was shell shocked after that big hit in Week 1. DHB himself (foot) missed the last 6 games too
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:58 am
oh, and Walker was in the doghouse & Watkins is trash …
THE END
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:59 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:56 am
9 catches & 6 drops for his rookie season is pretty bad. hard to imagine what a soph slump would even look like!
I’m expecting something like 34 catches, 521 yards & 4 TD’s. nothing earth shattering, but progress nonetheless.
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That must be assuming McNabb is our QB and not noodle armed Garbageboy or Lazy-ass Russell?
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:59 am
swap 1st pick w/ Eagles for Mcnabb+draft Cody w/ first pick+trade 2nd for Gaithier=playoffs!
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:00 pm
“March 30, 2010
The Ravens dealing Gaither isn’t ideal — but it makes sense now
Back in August, Jonathan Ogden, a Baltimore icon and a future resident of Canton, Ohio, told The Baltimore Sun that Ravens left tackle Jared Gaither had the goods to follow in his massive footsteps and become an elite tackle in the NFL.
Sure, the comparisons made sense. The 6-foot-9 Gaither is monstrous, just like Ogden was when he towered over opposing defensive ends. And like Ogden, Gaither is nimble for his size, with good footwork and a lot of athleticism. “The guy’s got plenty of room to grow,” Ogden said at the time.
But the difference between two — and a sizable problem at the Castle — is that Gaither doesn’t seem to possess the same kind of dedication that allowed Ogden to get the most out of his impressive physical tools. Gaither missed the first week of the Ravens’ voluntary offseason workouts last week, saying he was rehabbing injuries on his own, even though he knew the team wanted him in Owings Mills. Only after coach John Harbaugh called Gaither out in the media did the 24-year-old man mountain decide to report and workout with his teammates. Gaither showed up Monday.
“Everybody wants to be the best, and I won’t sell myself short on being the best,” Gaither said back in August. “I’m not the best tackle in the league yet. So there’s always room for improvement. Until I’m the best, I have a lot of work to do.”
In hindsight, that quote probably prompted you to roll your eyes, right?
The Ravens should be concerned if Gaither isn’t willing to put in the work required to be anything better than an average left tackle in the league. His conditioning has been questioned, and he missed five games to injury in 2009. What’s most concerning is that Gaither is playing for a big pay day, and has a first-round pick named Michael Oher — who also wants to be the Ravens’ left tackle — breathing down his neck. If that’s not inspiring Gaither to be all that he can be, then what will?”
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Gaither was at the Point of Attack (POA) on 300 running plays the past two years and he won his block 255 times, or 85 percent of the time. That is a solid number on its own, but his 2009 POA win rate of 89.0 percent is even more noteworthy. To put that total into perspective, consider that in a typical NFL season, a little less than one out of ten offensive linemen will crack the 90 percent POA win mark. Gaither was on the precipice of that mark last year despite battling injuries.”
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:02 pm
DMAC Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:48 am
Gaither should be our guy at RT.
http://www.tfdssports.com/2010-articles/april/raiders-in-play-for-ravens-ot-gaither.html
^^^^^^^^
Trading the 2nd Rounder for Gaither would be a GREAT value trade actually.
He can start at LT or RT. The man is a powerful beast and that is the type of O-Linemen the Raiders need!
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:04 pm
I agree. Him next to Gallery would be a good left side. Draft a RT at 8 and the hole line is shaping up.
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Word is Gaithier is lazy, that is why the Ravens want to trade him instead of placing him at another spot on the line. Should fit right in with Russell and Co.
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I could care less if players are lazy, but take care of business every Sunday. Gaither plays hard and has shown he can hold down the LT position. Jacraptable’s laziness?????????? Thats totally unacceptable!
+ I think the Ravens are trying to shop him becasue they’re deep on the O’line.
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Who would you rather have in the 2nd round (besides Mcnabb) than Gaithier?
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Rutgers LT Anthony Davis weighed in at 328 pounds during his recent individual workout.
He’s gained five pounds since the Combine, but Davis “appeared very light on his feet” and impressed during positional drills, making the added weight less of a concern. Davis seems unlikely to get past the 49ers at No. 13.
Source: NFL.com
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:09 pm
when your defense plays 45 minutes, someone is going to have good numbers. i take it you think if we had a dominant DT kirk would be better?
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exactly. I know a bunch of Raider fans loved Danny Clark at MLB, but the run defense was just as bad with him at MLB, because we didn’t have a dominant NT back then either. I think your MLB can only be as good (or bad) as your DL allows him to be. Capt Kirk isn’t a Top 10 MLB in this league, but I think he’s a good fit for what the Raiders are looking for. I’m afraid that we’ll replace him with somebody like Ricky Brown or Sean Weatherspoon and those undersized guys won’t do any better. I seriously doubt that Al Davis is considering McClain or Spikes, so my hope is for somebody like Micah Johnson in the 5th. eventually Kirk will sign his tender and he can compete for the job. Hopefully we’ll have a real NT this time around and we’ll find out how big of a difference it makes (if any).
Great point regarding time of possession too. our offense is so inept that the defense is on the field way too much. Pretty sad that our biggest threat regarding field position isn’t our ability to move the ball downfield. it’s Shane Lechler! the big hogs at DT get worn out and they aren’t that talented to begin with. then those 3 yard gains become 5 or 6 yard gains late in the game. I also think scheme in a reason for Kirk’s play. He’s often in coverage. I’d like to see him lined up on a run or pass blitz once in a while. He led the team in tackles for a loss last year, but most of those were on pitches or sweeps to the outside (I think) the DT’s just aren’t getting it done
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:10 pm
I like Price from UCLA if he’s there.
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:10 pm
I am not saying we shouldn’t trade for him, but there are red flags. Teams don’t just get rid of tackles for the fun of it…there is usually a problem, and with Gaither, it is his work ethic/conditioning/dedication to the game.
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Henderson Gallery Satele Barnes Gaithier
Schilens Murphy Miller
Mcnabb
DMAC Bush
Shaughnessey Cody Kelly Seymour
Wimbley Morrison Howard
Johnson Aso
Branch Huff
2010/2011 AFC West Champs
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:11 pm
If they get Gaither for a 2nd Rounder then the old man Al needs to TRADE the heck DOWN from #8 and target these players…..
C/G Maurkice Pouncey, DT Dan Williams or LB Sean Weatherspoon!
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Please please please allow Hue Jackson to assert his vision as to the linemen and fullback the offense needs.
Please please please tell Cable to butt out on personnel decisions and to take his vision of players and play-calling to the Lance Kiffin Sewage Center.
Is it too much to ask? To give Hue Jack the reins.
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:15 pm
DKnight007 Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:11 pm
If they get Gaither for a 2nd Rounder then the old man Al needs to TRADE the heck DOWN from #8 and target these players…..
C/G Maurkice Pouncey, DT Dan Williams or LB Sean Weatherspoon!
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If Al pulled that off, I would vote for him as GM of the year.
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:17 pm
inonewordraider Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Who would you rather have in the 2nd round (besides Mcnabb) than Gaithier?
^^^^^^^^
Hmm…..Tobey Gerhardt!
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:17 pm
KK, where did you go????
Dakota Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:47 am
KoolKell Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 11:44 am
Dakota
The Kolb era? What’s that? Nah, I don’t believe that. I think they are hard-balling NcNabb.
++++++++
Should we make this interesting? Say, if McNabb remains with the Eagles in 2010 I get you a Russell jersey, and if McNabb is not with the Eagles in 2010 you get me a McFadden jersey?
Both jerseys should be dirt cheap on the secondary market!
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Dakota Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:15 pm
DKnight007 Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:11 pm
If they get Gaither for a 2nd Rounder then the old man Al needs to TRADE the heck DOWN from #8 and target these players…..
C/G Maurkice Pouncey, DT Dan Williams or LB Sean Weatherspoon!
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If Al pulled that off, I would vote for him as GM of the year.
^^^^^^^^^
It’s simple….because some team is going to want to trade up for that #8 pick….especially if Clausen, Bryant, or Dan Williams are there.
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Gaither would certainly look good lining up at LT or RT!
http://www.baltimoreravens.com/News/Articles/2008/11/~/media/B75F5EF0FB4C47178C99ABD5B1A8F9A8.ashx
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:25 pm
DKnight,
With the Bills selecting at #9 and the Jags at #10, we certainly should have some leverage over a team that would want to jump up and secure Clausen in front of those two teams, but looking at the rest of the first round, which team is most likely to want to move up for Clausen?
Denver – from Chicago (7-9)
Miami (7-9)
San Francisco (8-8)
Seattle – from Denver (8-8)
New York Giants (8-8)
Tennessee (8-8)
San Francisco – from Carolina (8-8)
Pittsburgh (9-7)
Atlanta (9-7)
Houston (9-7)
Cincinnati* (10-6)
New England* (10-6)
Green Bay* (11-5)
Philadelphia* (11-5)
Baltimore* (9-7)
Arizona* (10-6)
Dallas* (11-5)
San Diego* (13-3)
New York Jets* (9-7)
Minnesota* (12-4)
Indianapolis* (14-2)
New Orleans* (13-3)
My first thought was Denver, but they traded for Quinn. SF has committed to Alex Smith, sort of. Arizona maybe?
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Redskins signed RB Willie Parker to a one-year contract that has a max value of $3.1 million.
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:28 pm
I have a feeling the best we could do is trade back to #10 with the Jags so they could jump past the Bills and select Clausen….that wouldn’t net us much in compensation….maybe an extra 5th rounder???
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Dakota,
I’d say Arizona, or Minnesota.
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Later Fellas
Everyone have a good Easter weekend
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:33 pm
I love the story stating that JaCalzone slimmed down to 291 lbs. Wow, that’s some drastic weight loss. I hope he doesn’t have AIDS.
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Seattle but Pete got some back up named Whitehurst
Pittsburgh if they think Rapestburger is going to the pen.
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:35 pm
ottocrat Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:33 pm
I love the story stating that JaCalzone slimmed down to 291 lbs. Wow, that’s some drastic weight loss. I hope he doesn’t have AIDS.
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Yeah, he went from 294 to 291 in three months…what a workout maniac! Actually, he just took a big schyt five minutes before his weigh in.
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Good Call Plunkett,
Forgot about Rapestburgers tenuous situation.
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Actually, I think after his April 9th pro-day, the Redskins will be sold on Clausen and will take him at #4.
Which is great because that will mean another decent player will be available for Al to pass on at #8 for a guy that could be drafted with our #39 pick.
Wait, that still sucks.
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Redskins signed Willie Parker
Cardinals signed Touchy Feely
awesome!
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:43 pm
“It shows guys that I’m serious,” Freeman said. “I’m young and I feel like I have something to prove. I think it’s the attitude the team should have. . . . Speaking as the quarterback of this team and in a quarterback-driven league, if your quarterback is not playing well it’s going to be tough winning ball games. I’m focusing on me and at the same time I’m trying to incorporate all of the receivers and running backs. . . . You want to get all the loose ends tied so when you get to the season there is no doubt. Let’s go get it.”
“I want to win and I realize you have to put in the work,” Freeman said. “This is not a league where you can get by on talent alone. You have to know what you’re doing. You have to be in there working. You have to get it done. It’s definitely a love of winning — beating Seattle, beating New Orleans, and beating the Packers. There is no feeling like winning in this league.”
Josh Freeman
“What is the last day I can spend in Vegas, and what excuse can I use this year to miss OTAs?”
Jamarcus Russell
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Dakota,
lest ye forget “…JaM leading by example.” – Louis Murphy
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:47 pm
lest ye forget “…JaM leading by example.” – Louis Murphy
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how many teammates at the craps table?
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Any of you guys see Herm Edwards on ESPN yesterday stating that the 49ers should trade their second round pick for McNabb and one of their two first round picks for Brandon Marshall and then draft a linemen with the other first rounder?
Hell yeah…Herm for Raiders GM…not coach, but GM!
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Hmm….good deal for the Browns. Does this move open up the door for a McNabb for Nnamdi deal??
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/11243/browns-pull-off-smart-trade
Raiders should trade Nnamdi and a 3rd Rounder for McNabb and the Eagles 2nd Rounder!
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:50 pm
can you imagine Craptree & Marshall in the same locker room?
LOL
how many prima donnas do you want at WR?
Javon Walker is available too
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:51 pm
Rockstar,
“example” and “exemplory” are not even distant cousins in some cases.
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:53 pm
M Lonetree Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Dakota,
lest ye forget “…JaM leading by example.” – Louis Murphy
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Murphy is a known pot head….that is the only explanation I have for that statement from him.
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Raiders should trade Nnamdi and a 3rd Rounder for McNabb and the Eagles 2nd Rounder!
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no thanks!
that means we’re drafting Kyle Wilson in the Top 10.
then Jahvid Best & Jacoby Ford in the 2nd.
no 3rd rounders, no help on the lines
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Dakota Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:25 pm
DKnight,
With the Bills selecting at #9 and the Jags at #10, we certainly should have some leverage over a team that would want to jump up and secure Clausen in front of those two teams, but looking at the rest of the first round, which team is most likely to want to move up for Clausen?
Denver – from Chicago (7-9)
Miami (7-9)
San Francisco (8-8)
Seattle – from Denver (8-8)
New York Giants (8-8)
Tennessee (8-8)
San Francisco – from Carolina (8-8)
Pittsburgh (9-7)
Atlanta (9-7)
Houston (9-7)
Cincinnati* (10-6)
New England* (10-6)
Green Bay* (11-5)
Philadelphia* (11-5)
Baltimore* (9-7)
Arizona* (10-6)
Dallas* (11-5)
San Diego* (13-3)
New York Jets* (9-7)
Minnesota* (12-4)
Indianapolis* (14-2)
New Orleans* (13-3)
My first thought was Denver, but they traded for Quinn. SF has committed to Alex Smith, sort of. Arizona maybe?
^^^^^^^^
I would think the Jags, Bills, Seattle and Zona.
If an OT falls some teams may want to trade up for him and also if some team may want to trade up for Pierre-Paul.
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:56 pm
I think Clausen will drop to Buffalo and they’ll gladly take him.
Bradford, Suh, McCoy & Okung = Top 4 picks
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Hm….good deal for the Browns. Holmgren doing what he has to do to turn a franchise around! Thats why the old man Al should have went after him….but of course the old man wants to take the franchise down to the grave with him! LOL
Does this Browns/Eagles trade open up the door for a McNabb for Nnamdi deal??
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/11243/browns-pull-off-smart-trade
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Somehow JaM shooting craps is poetic as it was crapshooting that brought his glorious self to Oaktown in ‘07.
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:59 pm
See you guys later. Hopefully, next monday we can talk about how McNabb is going to change this team and we will all forget about some lame-ass second round pick that Al would probably just use on some youtube sensation special teams player anyhow.
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:01 pm
I would rather have Donovan McNabb than Bruce Campbell or Jason Pierre-Paul.
add Haden, Wilson, Berry & Mays to that list as well.
if we’re gonna blow it in Round 1 again, please just give that pick up for McNabb so we can get a player in RD2. perhaps a cheaper bust?
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Rockstar,
so, you believe that Allen and Shenanigan are happy with Campbell rather than taking a shot at Claussen?
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:04 pm
M: I think the Skins will roll with Campbell & Grossman this year
They might draft McCoy, Tebow, Pike, LeFevour, etc later on …
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Dakota Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Actually, I think after his April 9th pro-day, the Redskins will be sold on Clausen and will take him at #4.
Which is great because that will mean another decent player will be available for Al to pass on at #8 for a guy that could be drafted with our #39 pick.
Wait, that still sucks.
===========================
Not so sure Skins take Clausen. Need to replace Samuels at tackle.
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Dakota Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:59 pm
See you guys later. Hopefully, next monday we can talk about how McNabb is going to change this team and we will all forget about some lame-ass second round pick that Al would probably just use on some youtube sensation special teams player anyhow.
^^^^^^^^^
Exactly! LOL
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:08 pm
you guys think the Redskins are content with undrafted Stephon Heyer or 1st round bust Mike Williams at the tackle positions?
Chris Samuels leaves a huge void and they didn’t fill it by signing Artis Hicks. He only started 13 games over the past 3 years for Minny!
Okung to the Skins 4 sure imo. Shanny drafted Ryan Clady, remember? best draft decision he’s made in the last 5 years!
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:11 pm
you guys may want to keep an eye out for Greg Hardy DE from Ole Miss. Freak of nature and was a top ten pick in 2009 draft but came back for Senior season and had an off year with injury. His measureables will make Al drool all over him. Remember Quentin Moses that we took from Georgia a few years ago. This is a similar situation but Hardy is a stud. Expect Al to scoop him up in 3rd round.
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Chiefs will take Rolando McClain, Trent Williams, Anthony Davis or Brian Bulaga
Seahawks will take Trent Williams, Anthony Davis or Brian Bulaga
Browns will take Eric Berry
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:17 pm
that’ll leave the Raiders with 1 of the Top 4 OT’s, McClain, Bryant, Clausen, Dan Williams, etc.
perhaps even Berry, if the Browns go for Dez Bryant …
then Al Davis will make his “surprise” pick of Bruce Campbell
yippee!
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:20 pm
best case scenario would have the Chiefs taking Berry & the Browns taking Pierre-Paul.
that would give us another OT to choose from and McClain would be there for certain.
Can’t wait to see what idiot Al Davis picks ahead of Williams & McClain this year!
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:21 pm
AD might be jonesing for a DB in the first and if Berry is available…
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:27 pm
M: if we draft the BPA, that would be Berry… but where would he fit in?
we’d have to move either Berry or Huff to CB and then figure out what to do with Johnson or Routt
Thats why I like to draft to fill needs.
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:29 pm
BPA is a great idea if the team is heading for the playoffs every year.
Line needs are just so obvious.
Take a top shelf lineman.
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:34 pm
RaiderLen,
line need was obvious the past two drafts and went unaddressed.
Berry would be the new bookend corner with Nnamdi.
‘010 O-line “Ole!”
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:36 pm
flozell adams to the raiders!
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Lonetree,
Yep.
Drives everyone crazy.
Mabey this year IS the year of the lineman.
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:38 pm
fat kidd Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:36 pm
flozell adams to the raiders!
=================================================
Fact or a wish?
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Dallas released Adams today. I know he is older but he could add depth and leadership to Oakland’s offensive line.
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:40 pm
In this weeks’ Sports Illustrated “Go Figure” section:
290
Weight, in pounds, of Raiders QB Jamarcus Russell when he arrived at off-season workouts last week
300
Weight in ‘09 of Raiders Left Tackle, Mario Henderson
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Mabey this year IS the year of the lineman.
***
RD1 – Dan Williams
RD2 – Charles Brown or Bruce Campbell
RD3 – Matthew Tennant
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Is this Br!en and Norco Bob?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz3nobbgfV0&feature=related
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Vegas: DT Desmond Bryant is 290 lbs
hopefully he’s not the new starter next to Kelly at DT, but I just thought I should point that out …
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:44 pm
RaiderLen,
I do believe that Cable Guy is quite responsible for not drafting O-lineman the past couple of years because he seems enamored with taking scrubs and cast-offs (kinda like looking in the mirror for him) and then trying to pound their round lard a@@ses into a triangled-shaped ZBS hole.
Enough already! Cable, we get it! You are not able to prosperously evaluate O-line talent. Let somebody else try!
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:46 pm
I’d even settle for:
RD1 – NT Terrence Cody
RD2 – OT Rodger Saffold or OG Vladimir Ducasse
RD3 – OG Mike Johnson or OT Ciron Black
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:47 pm
ProSportsDaily.com Flozell Adams to Oakland
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:48 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Mabey this year IS the year of the lineman.
***
RD1 – Dan Williams
RD2 – Charles Brown or Bruce Campbell
RD3 – Matthew Tennant
====================================================
I could go for that. Provided McNabb is off the table.
And would probably prefer Gaither with the #2 if avaialble.
BUT…bottom line…the lines would at least be addressed.
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Lonetreee…LOL
Ya, this castoff into stud theory isn’t working.
Lets get some real line talent.
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:51 pm
JP Losman came in one game, threw an incomplete pass and headed off the field with a 39 QB rating.
That 39 rating was higher than 2 of Jamarcus’ entire starts.
So basically Jamarcus, for the entire game, wasn’t better than an incomplete pass.
LMAO
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Len: I’d take McNabb or Gaither in RD2 in a heartbeat
McNabb = draft Jason Fox or Kyle Calloway in RD4
Gaither = proven OT (we don’t have to wish upon a shooting star that one of our OT’s will produce!)
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:53 pm
fat kidd Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:47 pm
ProSportsDaily.com Flozell Adams to Oakland
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link?
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:54 pm
rd 1 Dan Williams
rd 2 Gaithier
or
swap 1st w/ eagles for Mcnabb &
rd 1 Cody
rd 2 Gaithier
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:57 pm
Rockstar,
I’m with you on that. Please for the love of all that is Football.
Fix the lines.
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:57 pm
No way in hell is Al drafting Dan Williams at #8. Not happening what-so-ever.
If you guys want line help in the first round, the only realistic thought is a trade up for Suh or Bruce Campbell or Anthony Davis.
Obviously if Okung or McCoy falls (they won’t) they would be on the list as well. I would like Iupati, but I don’t see that happening either.
Sorry, don’t kill the messanger.
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Raiders Rumors
Raiders Forum Top 3 ProSportsDaily.com Flozell Adams to Oakland
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:00 pm
swap 1st w/ eagles for Mcnabb &
rd 1 Cody
rd 2 Gaithier
***
Would the Eagles do that?
give us McNabb to move up from #24 to #8 ???
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Vegas,
I don’t see the old man drafting Dan Williams at #8 as well.
Suh, McCoy, not realistic options.
Give Me an O Lineman. Trent Williams, Anthony Davis.
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Another guy who would have been a solid DT pickup by the Raiders is now gone…..sheesh….
http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nfl/news/story?id=5050997
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:02 pm
the only realistic thought is a trade up for Suh or Bruce Campbell or Anthony Davis.
***
trading up for Suh is a realistic thought, but taking Dan Williams isn’t ???
I can see us drafting Davis or Campbell. That wouldn’t be my first or even second choice, but at least it addresses a position of need!
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Vegas: drafting Dan Williams means that Al Davis is finally getting serious about stopping the run this year
pipe dream, I know
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:04 pm
fat kidd Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Raiders Rumors
Raiders Forum Top 3 ProSportsDaily.com Flozell Adams to Oakland
^^^^^^^
Flo and Gaither would be good pickups….they need to get at least one of them!
Then they will have more options with that #8 pick and like maybe picking Center Pouncey, Dan Williams or McClain or even the Spoon! haha
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:06 pm
I think they’d definately do it
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:06 pm
For the record, I would love taking Dan Williams. That’s just not Al’s style though, and we all know it. Not “flashy” enough at #8 for him.
Campbell, Anthony Davis, McClain, trading up for Suh, that’s more Al’s speed. The best athletes at their position. Occasionally he will suprise you, but he is pretty easy to read.
And don’t scratch Taylor Mays off the list so fast.
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Raiders Rumors
Raiders Forum Top 3 ProSportsDaily.com Flozell Adams to Oakland
——————————————————-
Not a legitimate story…
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Haden and maybe even Berry will be there at 8 not to mention some stud OL/DL if they wanna go that route
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:12 pm
How do we finagle another 2nd round pick?
Trade for McNabb and Gaither.
By swapping 1st’s with whomever, I don’t think that will get it done.
I like the idea of gaither because he’s just 24.
Adams…I’m not so sure about. I presume if he were signed it would mean a move to RT for Henderson.
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Rockstar, you see this story? Not trying to go political here, just thought YOU would get a kick out of it.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-mount-dora-doctor-tells-patients-go-aw20100401,0,5593120.story
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:14 pm
Finally April, the season sorta begins.
So, what’s up fellas?
post 711 is hilarious VR.
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:16 pm
An unnamed team is reportedly attempting to trade up to the Raiders’ No. 8 overall spot by offering a 2010 second-round pick and a 2011 first-round pick.
The deal would get the Raiders back into the 2011 first round after trading away their own pick for Richard Seymour last year. One other team has also offered to swap draft spots with Oakland this year. The Raiders haven’t traditionally traded up or down at draft time, and they’re not expected to be swayed this year, either.
Source: San Francisco Chronicle
http://www.rotoworld.com/
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:20 pm
If McNabb and Gaither were the result of trading this years 1st for a 1st in 2011 AND a 2nd this year…I’d have to consider it.
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Vegas: I saw that on Fox News this morning
I thought it was pretty funny, but at the same time inappropriate.
if Prez BO himself came to the hospital chain I work for and everybody else refused to treat him, I would. I don’t wish harm on anybody and a doctor refusing patients due to political choices is wrong. I don’t think he should be punished. I think he’s probably losing business due to these actions anyway
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:26 pm
actually if I saw Kell or MR walking up to one of our smaller clinics I would put a sign on the door “closed for lunch. come back in an hour”
LOL. j/k
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:29 pm
The guy is a tool, I saw him on Cavuto, and Neil was giving it to him.
Kind of funny though.
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Rockstar, you’re such a tool.
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Happy Easter Kelly!
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Rockstar
My gawd man, what is it with you right wing fundies? You guys are becoming just like the Taliban.
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Kell: bite off any fingers lately?
protest any book signings?
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Krappy, do you really think you should be blogging in the middle of the day when you could be out trying to close the “pending” sale of the town home?
Or did you just pack it in for the week as usual?
Man, you’re wife has gotta be bummed out at the mistake she made 40 years ago, huh?
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Why the bitterness Kell?
Plenty of exciting draft talk to take you away from it all.
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Vegas
Would you like to take the opportunity to disavow any ties to anti-American right wing militias or violent activities against America?
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Kell: why do you hate America?
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Rockstar
Why do you podunker right winger’s hate America?
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:46 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Vegas
Would you like to take the opportunity to disavow any ties to anti-American right wing militias or violent activities against America?
********************************
No….
But I will take the opportunity to tell you to kiss my azz with your stupid comment.
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Hey beech,
Krappy needs a verbal beatdown. You up to it? I could use a good laugh
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Kell: you were backing Russell like you were related to him a few days ago and last night I heard you talking up the McNabb trade scenario. what gives?
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Whoa, Krappy must’ve overdosed on Zicam! The old dog is ranting like a shell shocked army vet!
Easy there Krappy! The war has ended, man.
I bet the old wackjob has already shaved his hair into a mohawk and smeared mayonnaise all over his face.
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Lmao.
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:50 pm
Thought I would offer the following for discussion:
Lee Iacocca – brilliant CEO who raised Chrysler Motors from the ashes a few years back – is noted for the following quotes:
L.I.: “I hire people brighter than me and then get out of their way.”
My Question: Would Al Davis ever listen?
L.I.: “Trouble shared is trouble halved.”
My Questions: Isn’t this why Al Davis hired Hue Jackson to assist Coach Cable? So why won’t he do the same for himself?
L.I.: “I’ve always found that the speed of the boss
is the speed of the team.”
My Question: Why is a guy who uses a walker doing
the drafting for the Raiders?
L.I.: “Any supervisor worth his salt would rather
deal with people who attempt too much than with
those who try too little.”
My Opinion: I would love to see JR succeed. But if we don’t get McNab and JR doesn’t REALLYreally like to see J Russell
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:51 pm
You guys want to talk draft?
This is from a year ago, but it’s about the draft.
…………….
Posted by: danzinski
It’s possible Al Davis doesn’t take the whole scouting and working out and drafting process as seriously as he should. This would certainly explain why, despite mountains of data indicating against such a move, his Oakland Raiders selected Maryland wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey with the #7 overall pick, a move that drew immediate scorn, derision and ridicule from the Mel Kipers, Todd McShays and Mike Mayocks of the world…oh, and pretty much everyone else who knows, or thinks they know, anything about the players available in this year’s draft. Heyward-Bey, to put it mildly, was considered a shaky prospect: great speed, but maybe not the best hands in the world. The experts saw him going in the latter part of the first round, to a team without a lot of pressing needs, who were willing to take a chance on a speedster they might be able to develop. The Raiders, having plenty of pressing needs, were believed to favor one of the more complete-package receivers like Michael Crabtree, or perhaps a defensive player like Brian Orakpo.
But no, Al Davis, bucking not only conventional wisdom but plain-old wisdom, spent his precious #7 pick on Heyward-Bey. I wonder what the meeting was like on that one?
A LAVISHLY FURNISHED, DIMLY LIT ROOM. AL DAVIS, ANCIENT AND DUSTY LIKE A RELIC FROM ANOTHER AGE, RECLINES IN AN ELEPHANT-SKIN-UPHOLSTERED CHAIR, AN I.V. FEEDING HIM PURE KOMODO DRAGON BLOOD. FROM THE CEILING HANGS A GILDED CAGE HOUSING A WINGED MONKEY, NOW ASLEEP WITH HIS CHEEK TUCKED INTO HIS SHOULDER. A GIANT TV SCREEN SHOWS HIGHLIGHTS OF FRED BILETNIKOFF AND TIM BROWN ON AN ENDLESS LOOP. ENTER RANDOM STOOGE, HOLDING PAPERS.
STOOGE: “So, Mr. Davis, we’ve got all the data from the combine here and all our scouting reports…”
AL: “That’s fine. Give them here.” (takes papers) “What’s that you’re holding back?”
“STOOGE: Holding back?”
AL: “I can see you trying to hide it behind your back. What is it?”
STOOGE: “Oh this. It’s nothing, it’s just some…”
AL: “Let me see it.”
STOOGE: “You wouldn’t be interested in this sir…”
AL: “Let me see the god damn thing before I run you out on the same rail I put that Kiffin or whatever his name was on.”
STOOGE: “All right sir. Here you go.” (surrenders paper)
AL: “Oh, I see. Trying to keep the 4o times from me, eh? Well, you can’t fool old Al. My flying monkey already brought me the 4o times last week. You think I trust you devious bastards?”
STOOGE: “I’m sorry sir…”
AL: “Don’t sorry me you sniveling weasel. Nothing but a bunch of pathetic panty-waists, the whole lot of you. I wouldn’t trade a thousand of you pansies for one John Madden, you know that?” (reading paper) “Well, I see here this Darrius Heyward-Bey kid is pretty fast.”
STOOGE: “Yes sir, but he had some problems…”
AL: “Problems? Like what?”
STOOGE: “Well sir, he isn’t exactly that good at catching the ball…”
AL: “Well, we won’t worry about that. That’s what coaches are for. Anyway, I have a great track-record with receivers. If there’s anything I know, it’s receivers. I want the Heyward-Bey kid…”
STOOGE: “But sir.”
AL: “You don’t want me to push the button do you? Do you?”
STOOGE: “No sir.”
AL: “No. Now get out of here. And bring me the Heyward-Bey kid. And then tell the nurse to come in here. I need my diaper changed again…”
Davis’s fixation on speedy players remains one of the great running gags in sports, along with Craig Sager’s clothes sense and Sean Avery’s misogyny. The only ones not laughing are Raiders fans, who have had to watch their once-proud franchise sink slowly into the La Brea tarpit of laughingstockdom.
But the Heyward-Bey selection was only the beginning of the agony for Raider fans on Saturday: in the second round, Emperor Al outdid himself by selecting safety Michael Mitchell out of Ohio University, a player projected by most draft experts as a late second-day pick. Whatever hair was left in Raider Nation’s heads after the Heyward-Bey mess was immediately torn out and possibly swallowed along with a large quantity of alcohol and/or pills. The draft wonks didn’t even bother ripping Davis for that pick, they simply rolled their eyes, pointed their fingers at their heads and made the “cuckoo” sign. Raider players got on the phone with their agents and started cooking up schemes to get themselves shipped out of town. The leaders of the city of Oakland held a special meeting after which it was decided they should all pack up their stuff and move to L.A., since they can’t force Al to do it.
Even Mike Ditka thinks Al Davis is clueless when it comes to the draft.
http://pacmanjonesin.com/2009/04/26/al-davis-makes-a-mockery-of-the-draft/
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Boy, did I hit a wrong button!
That was to say,
But if we don’t get McNab and JR isn’t putting out incredible effort…..I would be happy to watch the 2nd string over-achievers play.
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Effort is only mildly important for the QB position.
April 2nd, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Please no more cast-off offensive linemen (pass on Flo).
Please no oft-injured lost a step and a half Chunky soup QB.
Please keep Cable away from the offense.
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:00 pm
E, my trusty shrimp cocktail server, the last thing old Krappy needs is a beatdown.
The old fool needs understanding and compassion!
Seriously, how’d you feel if you were almost 80 years old, crapped your pants 9 times a day, barely made rent on tiny 1 Bd apt., couldn’t move a town home in over 5 months and pretended to own a Chalet in Switzerland?!
You’d probably want to rant and rave like a deranged lunatic about politics on a football blog day in and day out also!
Uh, right!?
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:02 pm
5pm in Podunk. later gents!
Happy Easter!
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Dumb Beeych
Why don’t you get a job, young man?
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Now thats what i’m talking about Beeech lmfao
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Vegas,
Effortlessness or lack of effort (take your pick) hangs as mighty greatness on the shoulders of our anointed King Elexis I.
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Yep! Way to go moron Al and his cronies to piss off the fan base and make them not want to buy season tickets and not even buy single game tickets!
Great job by old man Al and his underling cronies like Herrera! LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBaa1iPJ3lE
What a terrible day that was last year!
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Krappy, that’s a great idea!
Maybe I can go into your line of work – sitting around the apartment all day blogging, pounding Hot Pockets and occasionally getting ragged on by all the homies down at the barbershop.
Tell me quick, Krap Krap – where do I go to apply?
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:14 pm
yawn
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:17 pm
You’re right, Krappy – I forgot to mention taking 3 hours naps every day.
Thanks for reminding me, bro.
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Dumb Beeych
You need some new material.
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Dumb Beeych
So you’re deliverin my come-uppins ,eh?
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Scottish Mock No 5.
1st: Trent Williams OT Oklahoma
I personally would take Jimmy Clausen but I don’t expect the Raiders to take a QB until much later. Cable has reportedly had discussions with Al about the best OT and been lobbying hard for Williams.
2nd: Bruce Campbell OT Maryland
Surprise, surprise. Campbell is still on the Board at No39. And why not. Williams will play RT and Campbell can cover Henderson. Taking two OTs may seem daft but it is smart percentage drafting.
3rd: Jarrett Brown QB West Virginia.
Brown isn’t ready to start in the NFL but he has all the physical tools and seems to have the right attitude. A great project for Hue and sensible insurance – given we have no 2011 1st sound pick.
3rd (If we trade Morrison): J.D. Walton C Baylor
Walton is the second best Center in the draft. I know Cable rates Satele but the evidence is that neither Satele or Morris can get the job done. Walton is bigger and a proven leader.
4th: Marshall Newhouse G TCU
Cooper Carlisle is a great technician and a real pro but he is aging fast and gettin overpowered. Newhouse is perfect as Carlisle’s deputy and pupil. 319 lbs and remarkably quick – he’s ideal as a ZBS power Guard.
5th Round: Sean Lee ILB Penn State
Lee is a 2nd round talent but there are real questions about his medical history and dodgy knees. However, in the 5th he is too good an option to pass up.
5th Round: Jay Ross D East Carolina
313 lbs of roadblock. Not flash. Doesn’t move much but Ross seals lanes and will anchor the Dline. Better value than many of the higher rated DTs.
7th Round: Jamar Wall CB Texas Tech
Under-rated and under most radars. Wall isn’t a flash athlete but he is a very competitive player. Will add depth and potential behind Nnamdi, CJ and Routt.
7th Round: Michael Smith RB Arkansas
Too small, too injured but this kid is lightning. We need a 3rd RB and a KR/PR. Get Smith fit and he has the gas to terrify. A steal.
If Campbell is gone at 39, take Geno Atkins (DT) and take Andrew Tyshovnytsky OT Fordham or Chris Marinelli OT Stanford in the 5th.
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Flozell Adams anyone?
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Flozell is too slow, too old and there are better options in the draft.
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:27 pm
Flozell Adams…..sad. Al Davis has got his fans grasping at every big-name to come down the pike, as he does.
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Krappy, I’m sorry I don’t speak hillbilly Oklahomian.
Can you translate “come-uppins” into English. Thanks.
BTW – What’re your big plans for the weekend? Taking the old lady out for a matinee and a couple’s enema?
I’ve gotta entertain these 19 year old Norwegian triplets all weekend and I only have 2 hot tubs. What’s a brother to do?
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Scottish Raider Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Scottish Mock No 5.
1st: Trent Williams OT Oklahoma
I personally would take Jimmy Clausen but I don’t expect the Raiders to take a QB until much later. Cable has reportedly had discussions with Al about the best OT and been lobbying hard for Williams.
2nd: Bruce Campbell OT Maryland
Surprise, surprise. Campbell is still on the Board at No39. And why not. Williams will play RT and Campbell can cover Henderson. Taking two OTs may seem daft but it is smart percentage drafting.
=================================
Interesting thoughts Scottish, but Williams and Campbell will both be gone by the Raider’s second pick.
Davis has drafted back to back O-linemen before. I think it was John Clay and Bruce Wilkerson years ago.
Clay was a bust, but Wilkerson had an ok career.
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Maybe PETA won’t have to be intervene after all. For it seems for now at least, that BSPN has stopped beating that rented mule named, “Raiders most likely to trade for McNabb.”
They have gone 30mins. into Sportscenter without a mention of a trade. That, hasn’t happened since all this crap hit the fan last week….
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Bring in Flozell for 1 mil 1 year and still draft OTs.
Bodies for training camp and preseason are never a bad thing.
Would love to see the Raiders draft Clausen or McCoy, but O-line is too great a need.
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:35 pm
Al Davis makes a flashy acquisition every year, to no avail.
Band-aid are insufficient for shot-gun blast wounds.
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:35 pm
Senior Beeecham Says:
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Krappy, I’m sorry I don’t speak hillbilly Oklahomian.
Can you translate “come-uppins” into English. Thanks.
=============================
Come-uppance. It actually is an English expression which loosely means to get what’s coming to you.
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Was Flozell released?
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:40 pm
NorthernD, I think the Raiders should play a game of bluff with Campbell. It is expect that Al won’t be able to resist him at No8 – but if we pass, other teams might shy away and leave him on the Board at 39. Trent Williams is the much safer option – just worth a gamble that Campbell falls another 31 places.
April 2nd, 2010 at 4:24 pm
The Dallas Cowboys started the purge of some underachieving veterans by cutting starting left tackle Flozell Adams and free safety Ken Hamlin on Friday.
ESPN.com
April 2nd, 2010 at 6:36 pm
This is the “show me” season for DHB, Bush, and McFadden. If Russell truly showed up out of shape the he has shown the Raiders enough.
April 3rd, 2010 at 9:16 am
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February 7th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
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April 19th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
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