Draft prospect: Rolando McClain
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, April 11th, 2010 at 4:53 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Fifth in a series analyzing potential draft picks for the Raiders, who select No. 8 in the first round on April 22:
College: Alabama
Position: Inside linebacker
Height, weight: 6-4, 249
Why it’s McClain: In a recent L.A. Times mock draft, I took Maryland tackle Bruce Campbell because I believe there’s a 50-50 chance that’s who the Raiders will take if Russell Okung and Trent Williams are off the board _ as was the case in that draft. On an upcoming Comcast Bay Area draft show, selecting who I think the Raiders should draft, the pick was McClain. The Butkus Award winner, McClain was the best defender on the nation’s top defensive team and a big reason why Alabama gave up only 68.2 yards per game on the ground. Not only can McClain tackle, but he’s a first-to-the-ball defender in part because of instinct, and also because he has been described by some as having the top football IQ of any player in the entire draft. The Raiders need a talented film junkie planted right in the middle of their defense _ and pay no mind to the fact that he played in a 3-4 and not a 4-3. McClain is smart enough to learn the angles and responsibility quickly. If there’s a chance McClain is a Ray Lewis-Kevin Willis type defender, they’ll kick themselves for passing him up.
Correction: It’s Patrick Willis, of course, not Kevin Willis. For those of you keeping track, that’s at least the third time I’ve made that mistake since Willis joined the 49ers).
Why it’s not McClain: Detractors think McClain cleaned up at Alabama in part because he had mountainous 350-plus pound Terrance Cody in front of him at nose tackle. While not slow by any stretch, McClain doesn’t exactly have “Raider speed” either. When it comes to taking linebackers, the Raiders have a longstanding tradition of waiting until after the first round. Al Davis has picked linebackers in the first round only twice _ Napoleon Harris at No. 23 overall in 2002 (Phillip Buchanon was the No. 17 pick earlier in that round) and Rob Fredrickson was the No. 22 selection in the first round in 1994. The Raiders philosophy on paying linebackers is that they’d rather spend money on corners since linebackers are often off the field after one or two downs anyway. The No. 8 pick would be far more than the Raiders usually pay for the position. Medically, McClain has battled Crohn’s Disease, although it has had no discernible effect on his ability to practice and play.
Quotable: I love Ray Lewis. I like the way he plays the game. He’s one of the best to ever play linebacker. Not just his play, but the way he’s able to get the guys up. He’s inspirational and he’s a real leader. That’s why I pride myself after him.”
[You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.]
April 11th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
Ain’t happening unless we trade Morrison. Let’s keep KM. I’m also interested to see what Wimbley has to bring to the table as well.
April 11th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
I just heard PFT says Ronnie Brown is avail. I expect SnB to be on here asking for that trade soon.
April 11th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Might fall to the Broncos or later if teams think his crohn’s is bad. Several players in the League with it though. Lot of money as a high DP.
April 11th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
I’m in favor of any linebacker that doesn’t NEED a big DT in front of him to be a playmaker and can shed blockers.
I’m even in favor of finding a big ruffneck for the running downs and a speedy coverage guy for nickle and dime
April 11th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
“Medically, McClain has battled Crohn’s Disease, although it has had no discernible effect on his ability to practice and play.”
=================
Took a toll this pre draft though.
“Scouts at the event said McClain struggled to finish drills and looked “out of shape,” and he admitted he wasn’t at full strength Wednesday.”
Wouldnt be surprised to see him slide to the teens…
April 11th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
May or may not…
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/13039121/crohns-disclosure-not-expected-to-alter-mcclains-draft-status/rss
April 11th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
BoJacks Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
I’m in favor of any linebacker that doesn’t NEED a big DT in front of him to be a playmaker and can shed blockers.
I’m even in favor of finding a big ruffneck for the running downs and a speedy coverage guy for nickle and dime
=================
Thats not McClain.
“McClain’s accomplishments don’t override concerns some evaluators have about his transition from Nick Saban’s highly aggressive 3-4 scheme to the NFL. McClain was protected in the Alabama scheme by 365-pound nose guard Terrance Cody, who tied up blockers up front. McClain’s instincts mask his lack of elite speed and there are concerns about how he’ll be able to hold up in coverage.”
April 11th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
I like Sean Lee in the 2nd maybe.
April 11th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
I’ve been on the McClain train from the jumpstart, and Im not getting off now. Either way McClain will be playing in Oakland,,as a Raider or a Denver Bronco. If the Raiders are smart they’ll grab him, then take a run stuffer in rnd 2. then fix the right side of the O-line in the 3rd & 4th rnds.
April 11th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
As much as we need a bruising middle linebacker–and leadership–I think the No. 8 pick has to be OT (but not Bruce Campbell) or DT.
April 11th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
With the Redskins shopping Albert Haynesworth, what are the chances that we get him? Tommy Kelly might finally thrive.
I doubt that Shanahan’s dislike of Al Davis would cause the Redskins (and Bruce Allen) to hesitate if a deal is otherwise to their liking (especially since Shanahan is no longer in the AFC West).
April 11th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
McClain would be a great pick!
Size, great vision and tackling ability, good cover skills, can play all 3 downs or all 4 if necessary and his size and athleticism and intelligence is awesome.
Adequate enough speed for a MIKE LB or INSIDE LB of his size at 6′4, 255. His thighs are like tree trunks!
April 11th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
# Pretty Rick Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
I’ve been on the McClain train from the jumpstart, and Im not getting off now. Either way McClain will be playing in Oakland,,as a Raider or a Denver Bronco. If the Raiders are smart they’ll grab him, then take a run stuffer in rnd 2. then fix the right side of the O-line in the 3rd & 4th rnds.
^^^^^^^^
Taking McClain at #8 and then going with best OT in Round 2 or best player available in Round 2 would work.
Once again….this draft is deep at the DT and DE positions….a solid DT can be had in Round 3….the dumb old man would just need to make the freakin pick at the DT position in this situation instead of drafting a nickel CB or safety or WR.
Ugh….
April 11th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
If we get McClain, we should either go for Haynesworth, or use the 2nd and trade up and somehow get Terrance Cody. Or use the 2nd on best OT available like post above says and get Torell Troup or Cam Thomas.
April 11th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
# Guy Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
If we get McClain, we should either go for Haynesworth, or use the 2nd and trade up and somehow get Terrance Cody. Or use the 2nd on best OT available like post above says and get Torell Troup or Cam Thomas.
^^^^^^^^^
Troup, Cam Thomas, Atkins, L Joseph, Jay Ross…..
There will be DT’s in Round 3….this draft is loaded with talent at the D-Line position.
April 11th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
Atkins is a 2nd round DT in most mocks, Thomas is floating around there in some too. On walterfootball, it had us taking L Joseph in the 2nd because of a sub 5 40 on his pro day.
April 11th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
I really doubt Al will go after Haynesworth. McClain is also a big doubt in my mind since we got Wimbley, and that gives us “4 first rounders” on defense, which according to the people who claim to know football (AL and Goons) should fix our D.
I believe we are drafting Linemen with our first round pick. And it might be either Campbell, regardless of who is available at his position, or Jason Pierre-Paul, again, regardless of who is still available at his position. I don’t think we are taking a CB or S because Al likes who we have right now. Specially now that Huff has finally turned the corner. The only scenario I see happening where we take a CB or S is if we trade one of them. But let’s face it, no team is going to risk trading for Huff, Johnson, Mitchell, or Eugene. And we are not letting go of Nnamdi. So I would think is safe to assume that Al is sticking with his guys.
So that leaves the Dline, which I already gave my thought on who we might be taking.
On O, well, we could use a QB. But I just don’t see Al giving up on Russell just yet. Don’t get me wrong, he probably should, but he is too stubborn to do so. Our RBs are ok, as I previously stated that I think both Bush and McF need another season on their own with more carries to see what they can do. And our WRs seem somewhat promising. At least with a QB that can get them the ball. And we are pretty good at TE too. So again, that only leaves the Oline.
I just hope AL has enough sense to pick a player based not only his measurables, but also his actual football skills.
The truth is however, that you just never know for sure. You can pick the guy that you think is the hardest working guy and study, but when he gets to the NFL he sucks.
April 11th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Haynesworth would be an incredible pickup. I don’t think Bruce Allen would have a problem dealing with Davis.
#8 pick and Morrison.
April 11th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
EMRaider who is our current FB?
All you draft experts are ignoring that HUGE need. I’m not saying in the first or even 2nd round but at some point we need to address that unless OO is coming back 100%.
April 11th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
EMRaider who is our current FB?
All you draft experts are ignoring that HUGE need. I’m not saying in the first or even 2nd round but at some point we need to address that unless OO is coming back 100%.
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
The discussion is who we’re drafting in the 1st couple of rounds and all you have to offer is “Who is our current FB”??? You’re a fukin retard! STFU!!!! The grownups are talking football.
April 11th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
As a guy who wanted Maulauga last year, I clearly see the need for a MLB.
With that said, I wouldn’t draft McClain at 8.
Just not that impressed for some reason.
April 11th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
# jhill Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Haynesworth would be an incredible pickup. I don’t think Bruce Allen would have a problem dealing with Davis.
#8 pick and Morrison.
^^^^^^^^
Albert would be a good fill in for a couple of years….the thing is his contract is HUUUUGE and IMO…he is done playing hard on a every single game basis because of that big ol contract.
He might show up every other game but at least it would be better than what the Raiders currently have.
Picking up Albert would allow them to effectively cut Kelly….potentially.
April 11th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
# jhill Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Haynesworth would be an incredible pickup. I don’t think Bruce Allen would have a problem dealing with Davis.
#8 pick and Morrison.
^^^^^^^
Dealing or Stealing from Davis? LOL
April 11th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
Kelly was pretty productive last year.
Haynesworth AND Kelly at DT would be nice in our 3-4.
April 11th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
So the Pats are intersted in Dez Bryant, huh?
Could it be our old trading partners are up to something?
How many of their #2’s would they be willing to give us to move back to 22?
April 11th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Interesting.
Mr. B posts…and OUT OF THE BLUE, here comes Debo to attack Mr B’s comments. Adding “grownups are talking football”…except…EXCEPT DEBO DIDN’T HAVE A SINGLE POST PRIOR TO THIS…OR AFTER IT.
How coincidental that Seymour/Oakglen just happens to do the exact same thing…to me..and to Mr. B?
I mean…wow..what a coincidence??
Hmmm… also interesting that Oakglen posts almost exactly WORD FOR WORD the exact same take to Mr. B last year about this time.
# RaiderDebo Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
EMRaider who is our current FB?
All you draft experts are ignoring that HUGE need. I’m not saying in the first or even 2nd round but at some point we need to address that unless OO is coming back 100%.
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
The discussion is who we’re drafting in the 1st couple of rounds and all you have to offer is “Who is our current FB”??? You’re a fukin retard! STFU!!!! The grownups are talking football.
April 11th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Definitely no McClain in the 1st. Raiders have been talking to Jamar Chaney and Donald Butler lately though. I bet we take Chaney, who does have “raider speed”, in the 3rd.
April 11th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
If Al has to pick DE, Derrick Morgan and Brandon Graham > JPP. How would Seymour do at DT?
At OT, Anthony Davis and Trent Williams (may not be available) > Bruce Campbell.
If he gets Haynesworth, they can probably groom Bryant to replace Kelly. I just hope he doesn’t do anything stupid this draft.
April 11th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Oh and are Chaney and Butler even any good as MLBs or just younger Morrisons?
April 11th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Oakglen, Debo, Seymour, troll extraordinaire.
I missed the memo that says we can only talk about the 1st 2 rounds. So having that said go F your cat you fruitcake.
April 11th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
McClain is easily the best “between the ears” defensive player in the draft.
Can’t have enough of those guys, IMO.
Reminds me a lot of Romanowski. Very physical, not super-fast, but cleans up the pile, film-junkie and pushes the tackler backwards.
Tired of watching Kirk fill the gap and hit the RB, only to end up around the RB’s ankles as he turns a 2 yard gain into a 5 yard gain.
April 11th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
FB??? Oh yeah. I forgot that position. Even if OO comes back, I still think we need to get one. So yes, I agree with you on that. But I’m not sure we need to go as high as 3rd. Maybe in the 4th, as insurance for OO. I don’t remember, is Griffith gone? Because if he isn’t I would almost say let’s just roll with those two.
April 11th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Yes Griffith is gone. I thought OO got released midway through the season.
Oh, EM the village idiot Oakglen, Seymour, Debo, BsDetector says we cant talk about FB’s or the 3rd round so keep this on the down low ok
April 11th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
That Jameson Kunz guy would be a perfect FB project in the 5th round or so.
One of the best pro-days of anyone in the draft. And the Raiders were there to watch it, with only a few other teams.
Consider him on the Raiders board for sure.
April 11th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Is that right? I think I remember something like that with OO. Well, if that is the case than we do need to find a FB. How is the Free agency?
April 11th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
What about Reece?
AND …
Aren’t we hoping for more of a 2 back system with McFadden and Bush like we saw in week 1 last year?
Gives McFadden the option to motion to the slot.
April 11th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/372627-2010-nfl-draft-will-kent-states-jameson-konz-may-be-an-oakland-raider
April 11th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
A guy with freak measurables and no position?
That’s an Al Davis special!!!!
April 11th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
The discussion is who we’re drafting in the 1st couple of rounds and all you have to offer is “Who is our current FB”??? You’re a fukin retard! STFU!!!! The grownups are talking football.
_________
# EMRaiders Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
FB??? Oh yeah. I forgot that position. Even if OO comes back, I still think we need to get one. So yes, I agree with you on that. But I’m not sure we need to go as high as 3rd. Maybe in the 4th, as insurance for OO. I don’t remember, is Griffith gone? Because if he isn’t I would almost say let’s just roll with those two.
April 11th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
We need offensive and defensive tackles.
Please!
April 11th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Kirk I think our tackles are Henderson & Barnes. DT yes, OT not nearly as much. We need a Center.
April 11th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
We need a guy at #8 whose name won’t be in the same sentence with “wasted pick.”
April 11th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Mario Henderson and Kahlif Barnes are NOT adequate NFL off tackles. An offense with those 2 starting will not be succesful.
April 11th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Khalif Barnes started at RT for a top 5 rushing attack at Jacksonville.
April 11th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Oh did he… Howd he fare last year? Or the year before?
April 11th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Ron doesn’t approve.
______
# vegas raider Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Khalif Barnes started at RT for a top 5 rushing attack at Jacksonville.
April 11th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
The jags REALLY went out of their way to resign him too
April 11th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Fellas, anyone else sense that something is different this off season? Al has not signed anyone other than Cooper that was not a Raider last year. Could it be that Al is talking/listening to somebody under the radar,if you will? Not sure whats up, but Im with Raider O and others regarding the draft,OL,DL,MLB,CB,qb,wr,in that order. Oh,must point out,I read all posts EXCEPT non Raider fans,drama queens from the other side of the bay,scroll right on by them,PERIOD raiders!!!!!!!
April 11th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
2007 Khalif Barnes started all 16 games for the #2 ranked rushing attack and #7 overall offense at LT.
April 11th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
RaiderRon Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Mario Henderson and Kahlif Barnes are NOT adequate NFL off tackles. An offense with those 2 starting will not be succesful.
*************************
Mario doesn’t have the history, but Barnes HAS STARTED FOR A VERY SUCCESSFUL NFL OFFENSE.
April 11th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
I thought Mario proved himself last year. Im ok with him! Draft a C and let Barnes and Henderson be the tackles. Gallery and Walker guards.
April 11th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Hendu,
Its been an all time slow FA period throughout the league, not just in Oakland. I would bet your one of the guys who lauded Al Davis as willing to do ANYTHING to win when he signed every stiff with a pulse a few years ago and now he isnt making any moves and your propn him as what? Being patient and building through the draft. LoL. Whatever works homie.
April 11th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
Any guesses on which OT gave up the most sacks in the NFL last year?????? Answer: Mario Henderson
April 11th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
If Barnes was so good what happened last year? Why did Jax let him walk without so much as an attempt to bring him back??
April 11th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Ron, every year FA’s move to other teams that are considered avg or above avg players in this league. Players with more swag than Barnes, so whats your point ?
April 11th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
No one said he was “so good” just pointing out that he started and played all games for a damn good offense.
April 11th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Barnes is done and more than likely wont even be on the club come September anyways so its a moot point.
April 11th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
If a top flight OT slips to the Raiders they sure as hell wont pass on him because Khalif Barnes is on the roster.
April 11th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
We could do worse than Barnes. Cable doesn’t have a clue what to do with the O-line anyway.
April 11th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
LOL. Don’t you love it, Vegas?
April 11th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Cable has no clue about anything, the dude shouldnt even be an NFL head coach.
April 11th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
todays raiders practice was held up for two hours after a white substance was found on the field,tom cable stopped practice and called in the authorities to investigate ,turned out to be something they havent seen in a while the goal line!
April 11th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
How good is Chaney or Washington? Are they soft like Morrison?
April 11th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Santonio Holmes to the Jets for a 5th rd. pick?? Why the hell weren’t we involved?
April 11th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Debo, Oakglen, Seymour, look at #39 and see what a douchebag you are.
April 11th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Oakglen, we are ONLY talking about rounds 1 & 2, ok? Get with the program you FK’n retard!
_____
# RaiderDebo Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Santonio Holmes to the Jets for a 5th rd. pick?? Why the hell weren’t we involved?
April 11th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Facing a 4 game suspension, a criminal assault charge, and his next positive test will be a year long suspension.
That is why it was only a 5th rounder. So I guesstimate.
April 11th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Oakglen, we are ONLY talking about rounds 1 & 2, ok? Get with the program you FK’n retard!
_____
# RaiderDebo Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Santonio Holmes to the Jets for a 5th rd. pick?? Why the hell weren’t we involved?
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Lol. Looks like I struck a nerve. Glad your dumb ass isn’t in Al’s inner circle or we might end up with a FB at #8.
April 11th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
So if big Ben gets charged, does that mean he’s available for a 4th round pick?
April 11th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
Sweep The Leg. Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
So if big Ben gets charged, does that mean he’s available for a 4th round pick?
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
He’s in the clear. The Steelers will probably give him one more strike.
April 11th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
One day a long looooooong LOOOOOOOOONG time ago Oakglen, Debo, Seymour had a complete thought…
But it was just ONE day and it was a long time ago!
April 11th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
vegas raider Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Facing a 4 game suspension, a criminal assault charge, and his next positive test will be a year long suspension.
That is why it was only a 5th rounder. So I guesstimate.
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Worth the risk IMO. Unless we see a miraculous turnaround from DHB, we’re gonna suck at WR.
April 11th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Really Debo? A FB @ #8, even though I said…
_____
# Mistabr0wn Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
EMRaider who is our current FB?
All you draft experts are ignoring that HUGE need. I’m not saying in the first or even 2nd round but at some point we need to address that unless OO is coming back 100%.
April 11th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Really Debo? A FB @ #8, even though I said…
_____
# Mistabr0wn Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
EMRaider who is our current FB?
All you draft experts are ignoring that HUGE need. I’m not saying in the first or even 2nd round but at some point we need to address that unless OO is coming back 100%.
###################################
The post is about possibly taking McClain at #8. People are talking DL or OL in the 1st or 2nd round, and the only thing floating around in your pea brain is “Who are we gonna get at FB”????? I know your paisley panties are all tied up in a wad, but relax already! I’m pretty sure by the time minicamps start we’ll have someone, OK???
April 11th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Debo i’ll post what I want, when I want, when I feel like it.
Do you need that repeated or clarified further?
April 11th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Debo i’ll post what I want, when I want, when I feel like it.
Do you need that repeated or clarified further?
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Never said you couldn’t. But when I think your post is the dumbest one I’ve heard in the site’s history, I’m gonna call you out everytime.
April 11th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
He reminds me of Sam Williams…physical, decent in a straight line but range is questionable.
#8 is a stretch…with his health at issue…likely to go after #15. He may become great…but is a risk.
April 11th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Love how he’s a student of the game and a leader by example. I feel thats exactly what Oakland needs is some one to be that spark that helps others with their assignments and lets them know its ok to win.
April 11th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Debo, you think its the dumbest thing you ever read but the fact is the person who I was responding too said that he left out FB, and he said I was right.
I also smashed you earlier when you were Seymour, and before that I ran you out of here as Oakglen.
Tool.
April 11th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
DeboGlen, you are nothing more than an ingrate.
_____
# EMRaiders Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
FB??? Oh yeah. I forgot that position. Even if OO comes back, I still think we need to get one. So yes, I agree with you on that. But I’m not sure we need to go as high as 3rd. Maybe in the 4th, as insurance for OO. I don’t remember, is Griffith gone? Because if he isn’t I would almost say let’s just roll with those two.
April 11th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Debo, you think its the dumbest thing you ever read but the fact is the person who I was responding too said that he left out FB, and he said I was right.
I also smashed you earlier when you were Seymour, and before that I ran you out of here as Oakglen.
Tool.
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
For the last time MistaPaisleyPanties, who the hell is Oakglen???
April 11th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
Debo, You’ll have to excuse SistaBrown, it’s her time of the month.
April 11th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Priesttj
From this list of unrestricted players, which players do you like and think the Raiders should go after:
Wide receivers: Terrell Owens, Kevin Curtis, Laveranues Coles, Torry Holt, Javon Walker
Running backs: Brian Westbrook, Ladell Betts, Jamal Lewis, Justin Fargas,
Quarterback: Marc Bulger (I could list Chris Simms and Josh McCown but . . . eh.)
Tight ends: Randy McMichael, L.J. Smith
Offensive line: Flozell Adams, Shawn Andrews, Chester Pitts, Kevin Mawae
Defensive line: Leonard Little, Cornelius Griffin, Charles Grant, Derrick Burgess
Linebacker: Jason Taylor, Keith Bulluck, Akin Ayodele, Antonio Pierce
Cornerback: Lito Sheppard, Nick Harper, Fred Smoot
Safety: Darren Sharper, Ken Hamlin, Gibril Wilson, Jermaine Phillips
April 11th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Chester Pitts and Charles Grant, maybe Kevin Mawae. I thought about Mark Bulger but I just don’t think he’s healthy. I have a funny feeling one of the 3 QB’s is going to bail on us if what I’m hearing about camp is true.
April 11th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Look for the Raiders to draft QB John Skelton in the later rounds.
6′5, 243 lbs, and ran a 4.85 40.
Here is a look…
Skelton is a good-sized quarterback with a major league arm. The problem is that he does not know how to use his arm to his advantage. He tends to rely on arm strength alone, when throwing the ball and does not do a good job of getting his feet set under him when throwing from the pocket. He can throw on the move, but his accuracy suffers a lot. He will need a ton of work when it comes to reading NFL coverages and going through his progressions as he looks for the best target. Teams may get too enamored with his arm strength and overlook how much development it will take before he is ready to play.
…………
Sounds like an Al Davis pick to me.
April 11th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
Priesttj
What did you hear bro? I have feeling AL is not happy about having Frye in this team, why dont we bring back JP Losman back?
I think we should go after Pitts, Mawae, T.O, Grant, Lito and I dont mind Bulluck or Ayodele as long as they understand that they are there as backups.
April 11th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
Sounds good except T.O. too much of a circus unless he’s matured which i highly doubt after his comments about Jerry Rice.
BTW I’m hearing that Russell is won over several teamates with his offseason so far so good but he has to keep it up and even do more.
April 11th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
Hows DHB doing? We read that he has been working out in Oakland with Gradkowitzki, my question shouldnt he been working out with JR also? If not, doesnt that improve Grakowitzki potential to win the open competition since having better chemistry with DHB and Murphy?
April 11th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
All the WR’s are working out with all of the QB’s it’s a team activity at the HQ.
April 11th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Priest do you go to the HQ?
April 11th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
I happened to see DHB th efirst day of OTA’s and he was doing heavy wieght training it was the day that Russell 1st got there. I saw Matt S about a week ago at Trevor Scotts house. They’re all working out as a team. The medias take on all of this is way off. Trust me.
April 11th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
Not as much as I used to but yeah whenever I have time.
April 11th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
TW I’m hearing that Russell is won over several teamates with his offseason so far so good but he has to keep it up and even do more.
——————————————————
Is this from the same source that told you there was nothing to the Davis-Kiffin rumors and that everything was hunky dory?
April 11th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
If you don’t want to believe it, it’s a free country.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:23 am
# Mistabr0wn Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Debo, you think its the dumbest thing you ever read but the fact is the person who I was responding too said that he left out FB, and he said I was right.
I also smashed you earlier when you were Seymour, and before that I ran you out of here as Oakglen.
Tool.
========================================
mistabrOwn, you have OFFICIALLY lost your mind. Get help. Seriously, get professional help.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:23 am
Mistabr0wn Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
EMRaider who is our current FB?
All you draft experts are ignoring that HUGE need. I’m not saying in the first or even 2nd round but at some point we need to address that unless OO is coming back 100%.
””””””””””””””””””””””””””””’
Exactly i hope we can get `The Terminator` with a late round pick
inside: Bullish runner who doesn’t waste time looking for the big play. Good lower leg drive and forward body lean to get the tough yards. Runs with good pad level and keeps his feet driving to generate as much yardage as possible. Good ball security. Keeps both arms locked around the ball. Has enough wiggle to surprise the unsuspecting defender and can gain yardage in chunks.
Outside: Typical fullback. Lacks the speed to beat linebackers to the edge and has only marginal agility to elude.
Breaking tackles: Tough back to bring down as he keeps his feet moving and runs with good pad level. Doesn’t offer much more than the helmet, shoulder and knees pads for the defender to target. A determined runner who will become a coach and fan favorite due to his second- and third-effort runs.
Blocking: Old-school traditional lead blocker willing to sell out to knock the linebacker out of the hole. Good size, explosiveness and accuracy to clear the way. Athletic enough to adjust in the open field to hit the moving target. Keeps his head on a swivel in pass protection and blocks inside-out. Aggressive in pass protection. Will take on the bigger man and holds up surprisingly well due to his accurate hand placement, use of leverage and determination. Accurate, reliable cut-blocker.
Receiving: Soft, reliable hands. Will allow the ball to get into his pads, but is quick to secure the pass. Shows the ability to extend his arms and pluck the ball out of the air. Appears to have enough athleticism to handle more complicated routes, but was typically used only on short to intermediate dump passes and the occasional screen.
Intangibles: A former walk-on who is well respected by coaches, peers and fans for his physicality, toughness and consistency. Played in a school-record 54 games over his career. Team captain. Also plays extensively on special teams. Nicknamed “The Terminator” by his teammates.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:26 am
Priest, I think T.O. could be an asset. We need his size to break up the fights Cable gets into.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:27 am
T.O. can be Cable’s personal coach. Being a distraction, getting into fights, T.O.’s been there. He can help Cable.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:28 am
# RaiderDebo Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
April 11th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Debo i’ll post what I want, when I want, when I feel like it.
Do you need that repeated or clarified further?
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Never said you couldn’t. But when I think your post is the dumbest one I’ve heard in the site’s history, I’m gonna call you out everytime.
=====================
“In the site’s history”???
YOU JUST RECENTLY SIGNED ONTO THIS SITE..I mean..you just signed on here as Debo..how..uh…well.. how exactly can you be stating something like that when you professed to have just “found the site”??
You dumbass…See, Oakdork, what everyone knows is you’re just too damn stupid to not soil your own shoe.
You can’t. You open mouth, insert foot. Next time when you create a new handle, which will probably be tomorrow, avoid the “in this site’s history” takes.
Won’t help, lol…you’ll still expose yourself.
So…for fun…tell us about your 15 year old date, you sorryass pedophile
April 12th, 2010 at 12:31 am
Hey TJ…have bad news for ya….you’re a lying ass dog.
No one believes you. You make things up as you go along.
You remember, don’t you?
For fun the rumor was started, ON THIS BOARD, about how JR was on the juice…
YOU THEN STATED ‘Oh, I’ve known about that all along. As a matter of fact I HAD ONE OF MY GUYS FOLLOWING JR AROUND FOR TWO WEEKS, reporting everything back to me.”
Remember that? lol…
IT WAS A RUMOR STARTED HERE, yet you ran the BS lie that “Oh yeah, I was there. I saw it”.
No one believes you, TJ, lol…
April 12th, 2010 at 12:36 am
How sweet is that? Oakglen posts as Debo to Mr. B…then he signs on as Seymour to post to Mr. B.
Do you like…jump through hoops and all, when Mr. B says “jump”???
Just curious, Pedophile.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:38 am
Oakdork just sees my name, and he starts quivering….
touching, actually.
Sad..pathetic..but touching.
Ok…just came in to laugh at you, Oakdork..you can come out now..it’s safe.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:47 am
Wow, wacky, I attack mistabrOwn for being a loon, and here you come defending him. You are him. You are the one who gets soooooooo upset for multiple personalities, and as it turns out, you are him. Eff You ass hole
April 12th, 2010 at 12:47 am
Richochet Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 12:38 am
Oakdork just sees my name, and he starts quivering….
touching, actually.
========================================
Wacky, NO ONE is afraid of you. You are afraid of your whore wife. That’s where you get confused.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:48 am
Wacky job, you are on an internet blog at 1 in the morning and you have to go to work in the am. Where’s your whore wife?
April 12th, 2010 at 12:51 am
Richochet=mistabrown it all makes sense! How could a couple of idiots be SO STUPID? Well, they are the same POS! How did we not know?
April 12th, 2010 at 12:53 am
I always thought mistabrOwn was the guy who effed you up the ass. Turns out it’s just the name of your dildo.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:54 am
So mistabrOwn is the name of wacky-sheiits dildo. It all makes sense now.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:58 am
priest, what do you mean Owens’ comments about Rice? He didn’t say anything bad about Rice. He dissed the quarterbacks he’s played with, and, he had a point. Framing it as him dissing Rice was a little trick the media used, you know, that Raider hating media. So, there. You don’t know anything. You don’t know jack shyt. You’re talking about things that you don’t know anything about. You’re stupid. You’re stupid. You don’t know anything.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:15 am
Where’d reeks of shieet go? And his favorite dildo mistabrOwn? Why does this all make complete sense? hahahahaha
April 12th, 2010 at 1:17 am
# Richochet Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 12:38 am
Ok…just came in to laugh at you, Oakdork..you can come out now..it’s safe.
============================================
Actually wacky sheeit, I am right here to kick your ass as usual. Just take your favorite dildo, mistabrOwn, out your ass so I can put my boot in. Don’t worry, you’ll like it. You always do.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:21 am
Seymour Bush Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 12:23 am
Richochet Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 12:38 am
Oakdork just sees my name,
=======================================
No wacky, you saw my name. You lying hypocrite. Take mistabrOwn, your dildo, out your ass and come here so I can kick it.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:33 am
Wow, Seymour. One key away from “come here so I can lick it”. We’re all just one small typo away from a life changing experience.
April 12th, 2010 at 5:00 am
Santonio Holmes to the Jets for a 2010 5th-round pick.
the reason the Jets got Santonio Holmes on sale from Pittsburgh is because is facing a four-game suspension this year.
Pittsburgh dealt Santonio Holmes to Jets after he got in trouble just like Cleveland dealt Braylon Edwards to Jets after he got in trouble.
he is in last year of his contract. Pitt didn’t want to pay him.
-Adam Schefter (twitter)
April 12th, 2010 at 5:04 am
In order to be traded, Jets RB Leon Washington must first sign his restricted free agency tender offer.
-PFT
***
I guess the same goes for Kirk Morrison & Thomas Howard!
April 12th, 2010 at 5:10 am
RRS..
both holmes and edwards are in contract years…
April 12th, 2010 at 5:17 am
Morning early crew.
April 12th, 2010 at 5:17 am
G’day
April 12th, 2010 at 5:23 am
Didn’t genius Holmes write Wake N Bake on his twitter and is facing 4 game suspension, and is Greg Papa the worst baseball announcer ever.
April 12th, 2010 at 5:36 am
[...] inside linebacker Rolando McClain lacks “Raider speed”, writes Jerry McDonald of the Bay Area News [...]
April 12th, 2010 at 5:45 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Looks like the night crew was at it again!!!
April 12th, 2010 at 6:04 am
good morning AM crew!
sorry. those earlier posts were made from my home in Podunk … had some extra time getting ready for work
April 12th, 2010 at 6:08 am
Jamarcus Russell was arrested last night at around 2 am.
He was pulling out of a drive thru of a local Taco Bell when he apparantly took his eyes off of the road to unwrap his Big Beefy Burrito and ran into a fire hydrant. When the officers arrived Russell started acting nervous so they searched him. Upon the removal of his pants they discovered 200 lbs of crack.
April 12th, 2010 at 6:10 am
That was pretty messed up, but funny!!!
The joys of a Monday Morning!!!
April 12th, 2010 at 6:12 am
nice to see Jerry Mac had a few posts dedicated to actual team needs in the draft (D. Williams & R. McClain)
run defense has been atrocious for years!
Don’t see how Bruce Campbell & Trent Williams WOULDN’T be an improvement over guys like Barnes, Green, Pears @ RT – but you don’t draft RT’s in the Top 10 and I don’t think Al Davis has given up on Mario Henderson @ LT just yet
and Jimmy Clausen would be a huge upgrade over JaMarcus Russell, but how much success would he have as a rookie behind this o-line?
fix 1 problem at a time. start with the lines!
hopefully Jerry Mac won’t take a jab at Al Davis and have draft prospect pages for Haden, Berry, Pierre-Paul & Bryant (but you know it’s coming!)
April 12th, 2010 at 6:16 am
King Elexis isn’t motivated enough to drive his fat butt to Taco Bell at 2am!
he’d send babysitter Eddie Anderson out for him – or one of the thugs in his entourage. you guys should know that.
and i’m no expert here, but doesn’t crack make people lose weight?
it’s obvious that ain’t happening!
April 12th, 2010 at 6:20 am
wonder if the Steelers would give us Big Ben in exchange for JaMarcus Russell and a 4th rounder?
he has tarnished thier organization!
April 12th, 2010 at 6:22 am
Funny you shoul dsay that…
My cousin was doing it for awhile…just for the purpose of losing weight…the only problem…
He was also smoking weed!
April 12th, 2010 at 6:24 am
RRS-
They didn’t find that kind of crack!!!
April 12th, 2010 at 6:27 am
bad deal Hwnrdr. I have a cousin in CA thats a meth addict. punk was even selling it out of my grandma’s garage!
he’s been in & out of jail like 4 or 5 times and now he’s on house arrest or something…
what a turd. He’s 31 years old, living with my aunt and he’s getting an allowance. suspended license for multiple DUI’s
LOL. I haven’t got an allowance since I was like 13
April 12th, 2010 at 6:28 am
They didn’t find that kind of crack!!!
***
LOL! nice one Judge
April 12th, 2010 at 6:30 am
and before you ask …
NO, my cousin is not N0rco Bob!
hehe
April 12th, 2010 at 6:33 am
trade JaBlubber for that fish in Hawaii that I can’t pronounce!
April 12th, 2010 at 6:39 am
What they don’t have is that big tree trunk in the middle tying up two blockers while the likes of Kelly, Richard Seymour and their linebackers come in to clean up at or behind the line of scrimmage, thus making the Raiders defense difficult to run on.
a stout inside presence against the run and make everyone else on the line better. would step in and start immediately
***
great work Jerry!!!
Dan. Dan. He’s our man. If he can’t do it, no one can!
April 12th, 2010 at 6:40 am
Haynesworth would be an incredible pickup.
I wouldn’t draft McClain at 8.
-Jhill (above)
***
woohoo! I knew my boy Jhill would come around sooner or later
April 12th, 2010 at 6:46 am
LMAO Rockstar!!!!
I didn’t think Bobby was your cousin! And I hear ya on that allowance thing. I haven’t had that since I was about 13 or 14, too!
That would be funny if you trade Russell for that
Humuhumunukunukuapua’a…just imagine the NFL world trying to pronounce that everytime he swims in for a TD!!! (or Greg Pappa for that matter)!
April 12th, 2010 at 6:48 am
Trade DMAC for Humuhumunukunukuapua’a!
April 12th, 2010 at 6:49 am
April 15th (thursday) is the deadline to sign RFA tenders.
Jason Campbell will sign his tender for $3.14 million by Monday at the latest, according to Jason Reid of the Washington Post.
April 12th, 2010 at 6:53 am
Hwnrdr: is Tom Cable part Humuhumunukunukuapua’a ???
snout like a pig …
April 12th, 2010 at 6:56 am
The triggerfish’s teeth are blue and they are set close together inside its relatively chubby mouth, it has a small second spine, which it can use to lock its main spine into an upright position. The triggerfish can wedge itself into small crevices and lock its spine to make it extremely difficult to get out. In addition, when fleeing from predators, the triggerfish will sometimes make grunting noises, possibly a call to warn other nearby triggerfish of danger at hand.
***
see? chubby mouth, grunting noises, practically spineless!
not sure about the blue teeth though …
April 12th, 2010 at 7:05 am
I am still loving all the blind optimism going into the draft. Like Al will draft like a normal GM would.
I am going to laugh so hard when Al gives all raider fans the finger and drafts Taylor Mays at 8.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:08 am
Al will pick McClain. Obama will nominate Hillary. Word. Print that.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:13 am
Based on your definition of the trigger fish…possible Rockstar, very possible!!!
April 12th, 2010 at 7:17 am
LMAO!!!!!
——————————-
The Judge Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 6:08 am
Jamarcus Russell was arrested last night at around 2 am.
He was pulling out of a drive thru of a local Taco Bell when he apparantly took his eyes off of the road to unwrap his Big Beefy Burrito and ran into a fire hydrant. When the officers arrived Russell started acting nervous so they searched him. Upon the removal of his pants they discovered 200 lbs of crack.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Jerry Mac: please give us draft prospect pages on Davis, Bulaga, Iupati, Pouncey & Cody. (we all know Al Davis isn’t afraid to reach for a player that he wants)
Not Haden, Berry, Mays, Pierre-Paul & Bryant …
only 10 days until the NFL Draft boys!
April 12th, 2010 at 7:35 am
Detractors think McClain cleaned up at Alabama in part because he had mountainous 350-plus pound Terrance Cody in front of him at nose tackle.
*********************************
Well, maybe we can take McClain in the first and Cody in the 2nd.
Throw in Javier Arenas in the 3rd, and it will be a ‘Bama trifecta!!!
April 12th, 2010 at 7:37 am
the Raiders 2009 season ended on 01/04.
in the last 3 months we have …
-replaced DL Coach Dwaine Board with Mike Waufle
-replaced Tom Cable (as play caller) with Hue Jackson
-let Gary Russell, J.P. Losman, Sam Williams, Jon Alston & Cornell Green walk in free agency
-cut Justin Fargas, Gerard Warren, Greg Ellis & Javon Walker
-traded a 3rd rounder for OLB Kamerion Wimbley
-signed DL Chris Cooper
April 12th, 2010 at 7:38 am
Wow…..MMQB says Dez Bryant’s mother was a whopping 12 years old when she gave birth to him.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:42 am
I’d be shocked if Terrence Cody slips out of the 1st round!
McClain at #8 and Cody at #39 = dream come true
April 12th, 2010 at 7:44 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 7:42 am
I’d be shocked if Terrence Cody slips out of the 1st round!
McClain at #8 and Cody at #39 = dream come true
————————————
And then we have no Offensive line.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:44 am
I expect #26 , #52 & #53 to sign thier tenders by the Thursday deadline …
April 12th, 2010 at 7:47 am
You think they will or will they test the FA market? I think Routt will because that is a gift to him!
As for the Law Firm….maybe Howard, but I think Morrison will hold out a bit!
April 12th, 2010 at 7:47 am
And then we have no Offensive line.
***
O-Line can still be solved in Rounds 3-5
RD3: Matthew Tennant or Ciron Black
RD4: Kyle Calloway or Jason Fox
RD5: Jeff Byers or Mitch Petrus
April 12th, 2010 at 7:48 am
The players have zero leverage on these tender deals. They just wait to sign them to hold out hope that some other team will sign them to an offer sheet.
BTW, has any tendered player been signed to an offer sheet by another team this offseason? I seriously can’t think of one.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:50 am
April 15 is the deadline for other teams to sign away a RFA.
In general, almost every restricted free agent who doesn’t get the attention from around the league he wants ends up signing the RFA tender …
Scout.com
April 12th, 2010 at 7:51 am
The 2nd thru 9th DE’s taken last year (Orakpo was first) combined for a total of 9 sacks last year.
No to Pierre-Paul or Derrick Morgan!!!!!
April 12th, 2010 at 7:52 am
I seriously can’t think of one.
***
Mike Bell (Saints) by the Eagles, but he was undrafted. so the Saints opted not to match the offer and got nothing in return.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:52 am
Good morning all.Anything going on ?
April 12th, 2010 at 7:54 am
If they don’t sign the tender, they don’t have the ability to go anywhere else, and if they sit out they year, it doesn’t count as a year of service towards FA, so they can be tendered the next year again.
Zero leverage.
After they sign the tender, than they can be traded for whatever. I expect this to happen to Kirk, he will be traded on draft-day for a 4th or 5th rounder.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:57 am
Tyvon Jackson (#3 by KC) and Robert “Bill” Ayers (#18 by Denver) each had zero sacks.
Matt S (taken #100 something) had 4 sacks last year.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:59 am
What up NATION???????
We clearly did not get this e-mail, memo, or fax….
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/12/devaney-intangibles-the-key-to-avoiding-another-ryan-leaf/
April 12th, 2010 at 7:59 am
exactly right Vegas. I just looked it up too
thanks for that explanation …
the Raiders can also rescind the tender offers!
April 12th, 2010 at 8:00 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 7:42 am
I’d be shocked if Terrence Cody slips out of the 1st round!
********************************
Mayock has him in 50’s as far as draft prospects.
I would be shocked if he went in the first.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:00 am
[...] McD: Draft prospect: Rolando McClain Draft prospect: Rolando McClain – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the highly… __________________ RaideroftheSith aka [...]
April 12th, 2010 at 8:02 am
10 days we fix the oline….
April 12th, 2010 at 8:02 am
Mayock has him in 50’s as far as draft prospects.
I would be shocked if he went in the first.
***
Vegas: KC needs help at NT, MLB & secondary
wouldn’t it be a kick in the pants if THEY got McClain & Cody instead? yikes!
April 12th, 2010 at 8:05 am
“To me, the physical skills are almost the easy part now [in evaluating] these kids,” Devaney said. “There’s so much that goes into being a quarterback in the NFL. The work ethic that you have to have. The leadership. The time that you put in. The media scrutiny. If you can’t handle all that stuff, you’re going to have a hard time performing on the field.”
****************************************
Amazingly, there are guys in here who still don’t believe in that “intangible” stuff.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:05 am
RR, You think they take a NT after drafting Dorsey?
April 12th, 2010 at 8:05 am
Thec….
No one will ever let him forget that.
He could find a cure for cancer and the headline would be “Billy Devaney,the man who drafted Ryan Leaf,has today discovered a cure for cancer”.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:06 am
Dorsey’s been playing DE.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:06 am
KC’s current NT: Ron Edwards
KC’s current ILB’s: Corey Mays & Demorrio Williams
KC’s current secondary: Brandon Flowers, Brandon Carr, DaJuan Morgan & Jarrad Page
pretty sure this will be adressed in 10 days …
April 12th, 2010 at 8:07 am
Vegas, to the point you made yesterday, I like the guys that are Rah Rah Rah at QB. that is the position where you need to vocal. you are the embodiment of the head coach on the field. The WHOLE team ebs and flows with how you lead…
April 12th, 2010 at 8:08 am
neilb Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 8:05 am
Thec….
No one will ever let him forget that.
He could find a cure for cancer and the headline would be “Billy Devaney,the man who drafted Ryan Leaf,has today discovered a cure for cancer”.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
front runner for funniest post of the week….ROFLMAO…
April 12th, 2010 at 8:10 am
good morning Neil, Thec, Vegas, Hwnrdr!
pardon my rudeness
coffee is on me today
April 12th, 2010 at 8:11 am
the real question is how did the leadership information get past our personnell dept???????
April 12th, 2010 at 8:11 am
CJ, Madden, LMN, BSJ …
still around ???
April 12th, 2010 at 8:12 am
Thec07 Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 8:07 am
Vegas, to the point you made yesterday, I like the guys that are Rah Rah Rah at QB. that is the position where you need to vocal. you are the embodiment of the head coach on the field. The WHOLE team ebs and flows with how you lead…
**************************************
Bingo!!
Now, granted, if you kick azz on Sunday’s you can get away with a lot more and do less. But you need leadership at the QB position, to weather the storm and keep guys focused 110%, not on Sundays’, but Monday thru Saturday.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:12 am
No problem Rockstar!!
How ya doing ?
April 12th, 2010 at 8:12 am
RR, what is up BRO??? no problem man, you in hear stiring it up….All good….
April 12th, 2010 at 8:13 am
Damn!!!
Be back later.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:14 am
coffee is on me today
********************************
Already had a cup of Harry and David’s moose-munch blend.
Hence the rapid-fire of my posts, lol
April 12th, 2010 at 8:14 am
Vegas, I even concede that if Campbell is not a vocal guy i dont want him. Whowas the last kick azz QB we had, get in your face…. probable the last time we one anything…
April 12th, 2010 at 8:17 am
Is the Draft over yet? sheez i just want OTA’s to start!
April 12th, 2010 at 8:18 am
leadership, guts, work ethic, etc are things you can’t teach imo. you either have them or you don’t
thats why so many are interested in a kid like Tim Tebow, despite his awkward throwing motion and need for 1-2 years of development
Al Davis tends to look at the physical things you can’t teach (arm strength, speed, etc) and it hasn’t made a bit of difference in the W/L column
in the last 3 drafts we got the guy with the strongest arm, the guy who is most explosive in open field (take it to the house on any given play) and the fastest receiver. they all suck because of fundamental issues like taking care of the football
April 12th, 2010 at 8:19 am
Thec07,
I think Campbell has been shell-shocked by how many coaches and OC’s he’s had.
He had 3 OC’s in college, and now like 4 coaches and 4 more OC’s in the pro’s.
I am for competition, but I hate giving up picks for guys unless your are 100% sure that guy will start.
5th or 6th rounder, who cares. But a 3rd or 4th?? Those are premium, build your lines and depth picks. Plus Campbell would cost way more, even for just a year, than a 4th rounder would.
And he has a one-year deal. If we want him, he might be a FA next year, so than we won’t have to give up any picks.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:21 am
I say Campbell is worth a 5th rounder. He is an upgrade to our current QB roster for sure. I would even spend a 4th if it meant cutting Jameatloaf.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:22 am
Russell fumbled 9 times last year. McFadden fumbled 4 times. Heyward-Bey dropped 6 balls. Murphy dropped 9 balls.
Russell threw 11 INT’s and only 3 TD’s.
Frye threw 4 INT’s and only 1 TD.
take care of the friggin football fellas !!!
April 12th, 2010 at 8:23 am
If I had my way I would ship our 2nd pick to Baltimore for Gaither right now and get us a run stuffing stud in the first round. Maybe even trade down to NE 22nd pick if they are considering Dez Bryant.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:24 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 8:11 am
CJ, Madden, LMN, BSJ …
still around ???
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
I think I’ve got Work Apnea.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:25 am
McFelldown LOST 4 fumbles. Coughed up a lot more.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:25 am
Russell fumbled 6 or 7 times as well
April 12th, 2010 at 8:25 am
Gradkowski fumbled 5 times and threw 3 INT’s in limited action as well …
April 12th, 2010 at 8:27 am
McSkinny also averaged half a yard less per carry than a guy who may never carry the rock again the NFL.
Not good.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:27 am
McFelldown LOST 4 fumbles. Coughed up a lot more.
***
BSJ: DMC fumbled 4 times rushing and once receiving
5 total, 3 lost
http://sports.cbs5.com/fb/teamstats.asp?teamno=13&type=stats
April 12th, 2010 at 8:29 am
I think I’ve got Work Apnea
***
HAHA!
April 12th, 2010 at 8:31 am
trade down to NE 22nd pick if they are considering Dez Bryant.
***
excellent idea BCZ. I’d love to do this and pick up one of NE’s 2nd rounders (possibly more?)
we might still get Iupati, Pouncey or Cody at #22
too bad Al Davis never trades down in RD1 ! ggrrr
April 12th, 2010 at 8:33 am
Pats pick #44 , #47 & #53 in Round 2 …
April 12th, 2010 at 8:33 am
Al did trade down last year in the second (before taking Mitchell) so maybe there is hope that he does it in the first this year.
Baby-steps
April 12th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Maybe this is the year Rockstar!
April 12th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Yeah and use the Pats 2nd rnd pick for Gaither.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:37 am
Anyone got that draft chart ?
What are those picks worth compared to the 8TH pick ?
April 12th, 2010 at 8:37 am
how awesome would it be to get Cody, Campbell & Ducasse in Rounds 1 & 2 ???
then Tennant in RD3
both lines = fixed
April 12th, 2010 at 8:37 am
use the Pats 2nd rnd pick for Gaither
***
even better!
April 12th, 2010 at 8:38 am
hmmm…inserting “Ray-Ray” McClain into the middle of the D could be a solidifying manoeuvre.
as far as ball insecurity, just draft Humuhumunukunukuapua’a in the third round. He’ll hang onto that sucker!
no more shenanigans! draft O-linemen dammit!!!
April 12th, 2010 at 8:40 am
PICK 8TH worth 1400 points
Pats 2nd round picks worth 1260 points….
April 12th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Anyone got that draft chart ?
What are those picks worth compared to the 8TH pick ?
***
I posted 3 different links to point value charts.
my comment is “awaiting moderation”
sorry bro!
April 12th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Considering the needs we have…..
worth a look?
April 12th, 2010 at 8:42 am
http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php
April 12th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Hey…..worked!!
April 12th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Schedule comes out this week, draft next week.
Finally, some new material to discuss!!!
April 12th, 2010 at 8:45 am
…..and we’ve got the 39th and 69th.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Neil: you answered your own question I see… haha
what picks do you think NE would surrender for that 8th overall ?
#22 & #44 (possibly more?)
April 12th, 2010 at 8:48 am
******To Mr. Russell from one brother to the next****
I am going to put myself out there a little bit. I am about 6′4 in height and last year in Dec. I was weighing in at about 290 lbs. After only 4 months of working out and watching what I eat, I weigh 253 lbs. That is 37 lbs of fat worked off while holding down a full-time gig and raising three kids and working around the house. I could not imaging what I could have done with 8 hrs a day, to focus on working out. I have been a fan of yours since your days at LSU, I cheered when we drafted you with our #1 pick. I came to your defense on this blog more than one occasion, but the gig is up. So if you think a middle aged father of three is suppose to be impressed by a pro athlete like you losing 20-30 lbs over the off season. FORGET ABOUT IT, I AM NOT!!!!
I am not saying this to pump myself up, or to be a “hater.” Plus you have already made more money then I ever will in a life time young man. But I am saying that I have grown real tired of people making excuses for you as a grown man. You got paid millions to act like a pro QB in the NFL. RIght now, you are showing lack of character, leadership and self-discipline. Many of us would love to be blessed with your God given talent and you really seem to be dogging it. Can you honestly say you are in top physical condition as a pro NFL QB?
You are a grown man, why do you need another man (Eddie Anderson) to monitor your actions and pal around with you all day? What type of BS is that? You are a man who was paid to be a quarterback and a leader on the football field of a major football franchise.
As an adult who happens to be an African American, it is an insult to listen to all the hand holding they are taking with you and the excuses that are being made. It is time for you to live up to your end of the deal to reach your full potential.
How difficult is it to get the best physical trainers, the best chefs to prepare you meals low in carbs, the best wide receivers to catch passes from you in the off season to get your timing down and to work with the best QBs in the off season. Drew Brees works with other QBs from around the league every year in the off season. How can you honestly say you have “a commitment to excellence” when you are the type of player that will not even commit to losing some weight? That same lack of discipline has to cross over to other areas in your life and preparation.
Why do we continue to hear about other QBs like McNabb, Gannon, etc. reaching out to you but we never hear about you reaching out to them? No it does not help that your employer Mr . Davis can be some what shrewd and there has not been consistency since you have been a Raider, but you know what Russell? You wanted the job and you got it. At times when I see you in all the bling (minks, diamonds, chains, etc.) that comes with the success of a #1 pick in the NFL draft. I say, good for you, I could not be happier for you brother. But when your team is at the bottom of the toilet year after year, your game is not improving and other team members who appear to be more driven are suffering from your actions it appears that you are very selfish and “me” driven. Sooner or later you have to man up and become the face of the franchise because in the end you will have no one else to blame but yourself. I will tell you the same things I tell my daughters who play sports. You can live with yourself when you do your best. You may not win every game but at least you can actually sleep well at night knowing you gave every thing you had for your team to win. Where is the passion? Where is the desire? Right now all you have are some good photo shoots for a Big and Tall- GQ magazine. Come on brother, I am being sarcastic but in all honesty you are selling yourself and the franchise very short!
April 12th, 2010 at 8:48 am
******To Mr. Russell from one brother to the next****
I am going to put myself out there a little bit. I am about 6′4 in height and last year in Dec. I was weighing in at about 290 lbs. After only 4 months of working out and watching what I eat, I weigh 253 lbs. That is 37 lbs of fat worked off while holding down a full-time gig and raising three kids and working around the house. I could not imaging what I could have done with 8 hrs a day, to focus on working out. I have been a fan of yours since your days at LSU, I cheered when we drafted you with our #1 pick. I came to your defense on this blog more than one occasion, but the gig is up. So if you think a middle aged father of three is suppose to be impressed by a pro athlete like you losing 20-30 lbs over the off season. FORGET ABOUT IT, I AM NOT!!!!
I am not saying this to pump myself up, or to be a “hater.” Plus you have already made more money then I ever will in a life time young man. But I am saying that I have grown real tired of people making excuses for you as a grown man. You got paid millions to act like a pro QB in the NFL. RIght now, you are showing lack of character, leadership and self-discipline. Many of us would love to be blessed with your God given talent and you really seem to be dogging it. Can you honestly say you are in top physical condition as a pro NFL QB?
You are a grown man, why do you need another man (Eddie Anderson) to monitor your actions and pal around with you all day? What type of BS is that? You are a man who was paid to be a quarterback and a leader on the football field of a major football franchise.
As an adult who happens to be an African American, it is an insult to listen to all the hand holding they are taking with you and the excuses that are being made. It is time for you to live up to your end of the deal to reach your full potential.
How difficult is it to get the best physical trainers, the best chefs to prepare you meals low in carbs, the best wide receivers to catch passes from you in the off season to get your timing down and to work with the best QBs in the off season. Drew Brees works with other QBs from around the league every year in the off season. How can you honestly say you have “a commitment to excellence” when you are the type of player that will not even commit to losing some weight? That same lack of discipline has to cross over to other areas in your life and preparation.
Why do we continue to hear about other QBs like McNabb, Gannon, etc. reaching out to you but we never hear about you reaching out to them? No it does not help that your employer Mr . Davis can be some what shrewd and there has not been consistency since you have been a Raider, but you know what Russell? You wanted the job and you got it. At times when I see you in all the bling (minks, diamonds, chains, etc.) that comes with the success of a #1 pick in the NFL draft. I say, good for you, I could not be happier for you brother. But when your team is at the bottom of the toilet year after year, your game is not improving and other team members who appear to be more driven are suffering from your actions it appears that you are very selfish and “me” driven. Sooner or later you have to man up and become the face of the franchise because in the end you will have no one else to blame but yourself. I will tell you the same things I tell my daughters who play sports. You can live with yourself when you do your best. You may not win every game but at least you can actually sleep well at night knowing you gave every thing you had for your team to win. Where is the passion? Where is the desire? Right now all you have are some good photo shoots for a Big and Tall- GQ magazine. Come on brother, I am being sarcastic but in all honesty you are selling yourself and the franchise very short!
April 12th, 2010 at 8:48 am
******To Mr. Russell from one brother to the next****
I am going to put myself out there a little bit. I am about 6′4 in height and last year in Dec. I was weighing in at about 290 lbs. After only 4 months of working out and watching what I eat, I weigh 253 lbs. That is 37 lbs of fat worked off while holding down a full-time gig and raising three kids and working around the house. I could not imaging what I could have done with 8 hrs a day, to focus on working out. I have been a fan of yours since your days at LSU, I cheered when we drafted you with our #1 pick. I came to your defense on this blog more than one occasion, but the gig is up. So if you think a middle aged father of three is suppose to be impressed by a pro athlete like you losing 20-30 lbs over the off season. FORGET ABOUT IT, I AM NOT!!!!
I am not saying this to pump myself up, or to be a “hater.” Plus you have already made more money then I ever will in a life time young man. But I am saying that I have grown real tired of people making excuses for you as a grown man. You got paid millions to act like a pro QB in the NFL. RIght now, you are showing lack of character, leadership and self-discipline. Many of us would love to be blessed with your God given talent and you really seem to be dogging it. Can you honestly say you are in top physical condition as a pro NFL QB?
You are a grown man, why do you need another man (Eddie Anderson) to monitor your actions and pal around with you all day? What type of BS is that? You are a man who was paid to be a quarterback and a leader on the football field of a major football franchise.
As an adult who happens to be an African American, it is an insult to listen to all the hand holding they are taking with you and the excuses that are being made. It is time for you to live up to your end of the deal to reach your full potential.
How difficult is it to get the best physical trainers, the best chefs to prepare you meals low in carbs, the best wide receivers to catch passes from you in the off season to get your timing down and to work with the best QBs in the off season. Drew Brees works with other QBs from around the league every year in the off season. How can you honestly say you have “a commitment to excellence” when you are the type of player that will not even commit to losing some weight? That same lack of discipline has to cross over to other areas in your life and preparation.
Why do we continue to hear about other QBs like McNabb, Gannon, etc. reaching out to you but we never hear about you reaching out to them? No it does not help that your employer Mr . Davis can be some what shrewd and there has not been consistency since you have been a Raider, but you know what Russell? You wanted the job and you got it. At times when I see you in all the bling (minks, diamonds, chains, etc.) that comes with the success of a #1 pick in the NFL draft. I say, good for you, I could not be happier for you brother. But when your team is at the bottom of the toilet year after year, your game is not improving and other team members who appear to be more driven are suffering from your actions it appears that you are very selfish and “me” driven. Sooner or later you have to man up and become the face of the franchise because in the end you will have no one else to blame but yourself. I will tell you the same things I tell my daughters who play sports. You can live with yourself when you do your best. You may not win every game but at least you can actually sleep well at night knowing you gave every thing you had for your team to win. Where is the passion? Where is the desire? Right now all you have are some good photo shoots for a Big and Tall- GQ magazine. Come on brother, I am being sarcastic but in all honesty you are selling yourself and the franchise very short!
April 12th, 2010 at 8:48 am
Rockstar…..
Hopefully,all of them!
They’d never go for it,would they ?
April 12th, 2010 at 8:51 am
#22 Cody, Pouncey or Iupati (in that order)
#39 Brown, Campbell, Saffold, Ducasse (in that order)
#44 same as above. if none of those dudes are available, look at Asamoah or Walton (in that order)
April 12th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Hopefully,all of them!
They’d never go for it,would they ?
***
Patriots get: #8
Raiders get: #22 , #44 , #47 & #53
Neil: that trade would HEAVILY favor the Raiders
i’m all for it, but no. I don’t think the Pats would offer that in a million years
April 12th, 2010 at 8:55 am
No wonder I couldn’t post for a while !!
April 12th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Rockstar….
Sorry,I was going by Pats pick #44 , #47 & #53 in Round 2 …
April 12th, 2010 at 8:57 am
LOL!
thats one way to get your point across CJ. take up half the comments section. haha j/k
April 12th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Damn, CJ…..from the heart brother!!!
I think the weight issue is just the first step, and not of the most importance.
I mean, if he is gaining weight because he is ordeing pizza’s once a week for his offense and reviewing tons of film, I’ll take it. He can be successful at 290, and still suck at 260.
But your do yourself no favors in any physical activity, not being in your best shape.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Patriots get: #8
Raiders get: #44 , #47 & #53
that means the Pats robbed Al Davis of 1st rounders in both 2010 & 2011. haha. wouldn’t surprise me!
what 4 players could we target in Round 2 to patch up both lines? I think Williams & Cody will be long gone by #39 , but with four 2nd rounders I suppose we could always trade back up to mid 1st round and get a NT at a lesser cost?
April 12th, 2010 at 9:02 am
Pouncey seems to have that mean streak and versatility for the o-line but do you think his feet are quick enough for the zone blocking scheme?
April 12th, 2010 at 9:02 am
When you stop and consider the holes in this team trading our 1st round pick for the all the Pats 2nd round picks seems like too good to be true.
If one of Al’s henchmen are reading this blog,would you mention it to your boss.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:02 am
But your do yourself no favors in any physical activity, not being in your best shape.
***
Russell has no chance at success if he can’t beat Terdell Sands in a foot race!
I don’t care how good our o-line looks next season …
April 12th, 2010 at 9:05 am
“what 4 players could we target in Round 2 to patch up both lines? I think Williams & Cody will be long gone by #39 , but with four 2nd rounders I suppose we could always trade back up to mid 1st round and get a NT at a lesser cost?”
I don’t know the college game that well Rockstar,but I’ll say it again….
What would help this team more a first,second and third pick or 4 second round picks and a third ?
April 12th, 2010 at 9:06 am
You always hear about how a collegiate shotgun offense doesn’t help a QB transition to the NFL, but what about the centers in those offenses?
Pouncey was snapping the ball in shotgun 80% (my guess) of the time the last couple of years.
For that reason, I think he will be a guard at least for his rookie year.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:06 am
Vegas, I am just getting so tired of the excuses being made for a young man given all the opportunity he could ever ask for in one life time. Not every NFL QB is going to the hall of fame but he is not even giving it a good effort. I am sorry there is no excuses for a QB with a gut! None! It just shows he does not want to go that extra mile bro.
————————————————-
vegas raider Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Damn, CJ…..from the heart brother!!!
I think the weight issue is just the first step, and not of the most importance.
I mean, if he is gaining weight because he is ordeing pizza’s once a week for his offense and reviewing tons of film, I’ll take it. He can be successful at 290, and still suck at 260.
But your do yourself no favors in any physical activity, not being in your best shape.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:07 am
with 4 picks in Round 2:
OT Charles Brown, OT Bruce Campbell, OT Rodger Saffold, OT Ciron Black
OG Vladimir Ducasse, OG Jon Asamoah, OG Mike Johnson
C J.D. Walton, C Matthew Tennant
NT Cam Thomas, NT Torrell Troup
pick one from each category! (barring any more trades up or down …)
April 12th, 2010 at 9:09 am
There you go…..easy!!!
It’ll never happen but it’s fun to think about!
April 12th, 2010 at 9:11 am
It’ll never happen but it’s fun to think about!
***
exactly. while we’re dreaming I’ll go ahead and add in Brandon Spikes in RD3 and Vegas’ favorite Javier Arenas in RD4 …
April 12th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Preaching to the choir CJ!!!
I just know that you don’t have to be a chiseled weight-lifting freak to be a successful QB, but if your not working in the weight-room you better be working somewhere else!!
And from Jerry’s reports of last year’s first week of OTA’s, where Russell was one-hoping guys and not completing passes WITH NO DEFENSE ON THE FIELD, just goes to show he didn’t do squat in the offseason last year.
I mean a guy with that type of talent should not be one-hoping guys the first week. I am convinced that taking your buddy out back a few days a week and tossing the rock would solve that issue. IMO, I don’t think he picked up the pigskin for months last offseason.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:13 am
Thats right RR!!! I should send it to the Oakland Tribune, letter to the editor, to print.: )
————————————————-
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 8:57 am
LOL!
thats one way to get your point across CJ. take up half the comments section. haha j/k
April 12th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Time for me to go.
Have a great Monday everyone.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:15 am
you too. later Neil!
April 12th, 2010 at 9:16 am
I should send it to the Oakland Tribune, letter to the editor, to print.
***
you should man!
better yet, send it to Tim Kawakami, Scott Ostler or Nancy Gay …
that’ll rattle Al Davis’ cage
April 12th, 2010 at 9:18 am
I could not agree more with you.
He does not have to be chisled to be a successful QB but when you have an o-line like his and you have to move around the pocket, if your weight was an issue at all. Would you not try to improve it? Plus. lets be honest how many successful QBs with a big fat gut have you seen winning games lately? To me it goes hand in hand with his lack of preperation.
—————————
vegas raider Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Preaching to the choir CJ!!!
I just know that you don’t have to be a chiseled weight-lifting freak to be a successful QB, but if your not working in the weight-room you better be working somewhere else!!
And from Jerry’s reports of last year’s first week of OTA’s, where Russell was one-hoping guys and not completing passes WITH NO DEFENSE ON THE FIELD, just goes to show he didn’t do squat in the offseason last year.
I mean a guy with that type of talent should not be one-hoping guys the first week. I am convinced that taking your buddy out back a few days a week and tossing the rock would solve that issue. IMO, I don’t think he picked up the pigskin for months last offseason.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:25 am
I am about 6′4 in height and last year in Dec. I was weighing in at about 290 lbs. After only 4 months of working out and watching what I eat, I weigh 253 lbs. That is 37 lbs of fat worked off while holding down a full-time gig and raising three kids and working around the house. I could not imaging what I could have done with 8 hrs a day, to focus on working out.
***
CJ: if you can throw an accurate pass 25-40 yards downfield, you’ve got a shot at the starter QB gig in Oakland.
please submit your workout tape to:
1220 Harbor Bay Parkway. Alameda, CA 94502
Attn: John Herrerra
thanks pal & good luck!
April 12th, 2010 at 9:27 am
50-50 sounds about right. The pick will be toward one of the largest needs. That would be either OT or LB. I think/hope it is McLain and I hope he turns out. You never know, but right now, is there anybody that the Raider could pick that wouldn’t be picked by somebody in the first round? If not, then who can complain about their pick? The haters, that who.
BAN THE TROLLS!
April 12th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Morning Nation
April 12th, 2010 at 9:30 am
I would much prefer a trade down to the Pats for a 1st, 2nd and 3/4 pick vs 3 2nd round picks.
Given that they have so many 2nd round picks they might just do something like that.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Can we resign DBurg and Walter trade them back to NE too?
April 12th, 2010 at 9:33 am
is there anybody that the Raider could pick that wouldn’t be picked by somebody in the first round? If not, then who can complain about their pick? The haters, that who.
***
BMG: Like you, I’d be satisfied with Rolando McClain or Trent Williams, as long as we can find a starter quality nose tackle after Round 1 in the draft …
What I’m worried most about is ignoring a team need and going for the luxury pick or skill position guy (BPA perhaps)
drafting Clausen, Spiller, Bryant, Haden, Berry, Mays, Pierre-Paul and leaving the lines “as is” would be a disaster imo
I would complain if that happened. that doesn’t make me a hater, does it?
April 12th, 2010 at 9:35 am
Can we resign DBurg and Walter trade them back to NE too?
***
add LaMont Jordan, Doug Gabriel & Terdell Sands to that list
Bill Belly loves him some former raiders!
April 12th, 2010 at 9:41 am
According to Yahoo Sports’ Charles Robinson, a “Pro Bowl running back” is on the trading block to the point where talks have already begun with a team outside the division.
Though Robinson can’t reveal the player or team yet, he did say it won’t be a “shocking” deal and it doesn’t involve Marion Barber. Possibilities include Marshawn Lynch (2008), Ronnie Brown (2008), Clinton Portis (2008), DeAngelo Williams (2009), and Willis McGahee (2007). Our best guess is Marshawn Lynch, possibly with a trade back to California and the Chargers.
Source: Charles Robinson on Twitter
=======================================
How about Lynch back in Cali in a Silver & Black uni?
April 12th, 2010 at 9:41 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 9:35 am
Can we resign DBurg and Walter trade them back to NE too?
***
add LaMont Jordan, Doug Gabriel & Terdell Sands to that list
Bill Belly loves him some former raiders!
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Thanks for not mentioning Randy.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:42 am
How about Lynch back in Cali in a Silver & Black uni?
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::
#20?
April 12th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Marshawn Lynch will be traded to Oakland for Mike Bush and a 5th rounder, not Darren McFadden …
sorry BSJ!
April 12th, 2010 at 9:44 am
We sent him Doug Gabriel, he sent him back to us 4 games later.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:44 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 9:33 am
is there anybody that the Raider could pick that wouldn’t be picked by somebody in the first round? If not, then who can complain about their pick? The haters, that who.
***
BMG: Like you, I’d be satisfied with Rolando McClain or Trent Williams, as long as we can find a starter quality nose tackle after Round 1 in the draft …
What I’m worried most about is ignoring a team need and going for the luxury pick or skill position guy (BPA perhaps)
drafting Clausen, Spiller, Bryant, Haden, Berry, Mays, Pierre-Paul and leaving the lines “as is” would be a disaster imo
I would complain if that happened. that doesn’t make me a hater, does it?
————————————————-
I think I would be ok with Berry, just because he is so good. And then CJ can move to nickle corner. Which is a need position.
Anyone else and I won’t be happy.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:46 am
The running back in question is Ronnie Brown. The Dolphins must know something about his injury the rest of us arent privey too…
April 12th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Giants released DT Anthony Bryant this weekend.
6′3″ 337 lbs drafted in 2005 Round 6 by the Bucs
5 solo tackles and 1 fumble recovery since being drafted.
the Raiders will be his 7th NFL team. just watch, another Terdell Sands experiment on it’s way
April 12th, 2010 at 9:48 am
I dont care if we dont even have a nickle corner. No one passes on us anyways. Run Run Run… Penalty… Run Run Screen for 40yds….
April 12th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Ronnie Brown’s career high for rushing yards in a season is 1008. Justin Fargas did better than that in Oakland!
at least Brown isn’t allergic to the endzone. better yards per carry & hands out of the backfield too …
April 12th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Brown is a very good back, but he’s definetly injury prone.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Ronnie Brown would also look good in #20, but I’d prefer Lynch.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:52 am
nickel CB isn’t that big of deal to me either. Huff can fill that role imo. we need to get Mike Mitchell on the field more anyways!
why not just get a vet in free agency?
these dudes are available:
Dre’ Bly
Lito Sheppard
Nick Harper
Walt Harris
Anthony Henry
Ken Lucas
Deshea Townsend
Fred Smoot
Will Allen
Torrie Cox
Vernon Fox
Corey Ivy
William James
Frank Walker
Ty Law
Chris McAlister
Mike McKenzie
April 12th, 2010 at 9:54 am
Routt is our prized nickel back!!!!!!!!
April 12th, 2010 at 9:55 am
“I dont care if we dont even have a nickle corner. No one passes on us anyways. Run Run Run… Penalty… Run Run Screen for 40yds….”
_______________________________________________________
Exactly, and what have the Raiders done, or are doing to fix that?
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!
Expect THE SAME DA&N THING COME SEPTEMBER.
F YOU AL DAVIS.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:55 am
I wouldn’t mind a Bly, Lucas or Smoot to fill in though.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:56 am
Ronnie Brown got a DUI 3 weeks ago.
that probably put him in Parcells doghouse …
not sure how Parcells stresses high character and then brings in Richie Incognito. resigns Jason Ferguson after an 8 game suspension and we all remember Keyshawn Johnson & Antonio Bryant who played for him
April 12th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Brown wouldn’t last two weeks in a raider uniform, running into a brick wall every play.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:58 am
The Jets decided to administer a little payback for the girl assaulted by Roethlisberger. They just raped Pittsburgh for Santonio Holmes.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:58 am
NFL.com analyst Gil Brandt isn’t ready to give up on Raiders WR Darrius Heward-Bey just yet.
“I’m still not convinced that Heyward-Bey has failed. I think [wide receivers] come on and become good players,” Brandt said. “It takes them a while.” While JaMarcus Russell’s scattershot arm makes it tough to assess Raiders receivers, DHB averaged less than a catch per game as a rookie while showing poor hands. Brandt’s right, though, that it’s too early to give up on DHB’s obvious physical gifts.
Source: Baltimore Sun
April 12th, 2010 at 10:04 am
Steelers still have:
Hines Ward, Mike Wallace, Limas Sweed, Antwaan Randle El & Arnaz Battle at WR …
they’ll be ok!
plus (per PFT) they may end up getting Leon Washington as part of that trade for Holmes.
they need somebody to pair with Rashard Mendenhall besides Mewelde Moore.
April 12th, 2010 at 10:05 am
I say “F U” to Al Davis, and this is coming from a guy who has always loved the guy. What I am most ticked off about is his ridiculous stubborness. I used to always believe that Al truly believed the “Just Win Baby” stuff, but I do not anymore; this is all about Al wanting to be right than ANYTHING ELSE.
Note to Al: EVERYBODY says your beloved franchise is in the bottom three of the league. All the “experts” predict you will only win 5 games at best this year. Here’s an idea, why don’t you spend some time proving THAT wrong?
Talk about commitment to excellence, blah blah blah, how about PROVING IT on the field where it matters instead of obsessing about Adam Schefter and Chris Mortensen.
This is why I have turned on Al Davis; I don’t believe he cares about winning as much as the fans do.
DO SOMETHING!!!
April 12th, 2010 at 10:05 am
I have been pining to bring Lynch back to the town for awhile.
I truly believe he is better than any back on our roster.
Not Raider speed, but Marshawn is not an easy tackle.
April 12th, 2010 at 10:09 am
Ronnie Brown running the wildcat is the heart of Miami’s success the last 2 years. We would be dangerous with him, McFadden, and DHB in a wildcat. Very Dangerous
April 12th, 2010 at 10:09 am
BEAST MODE!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 12th, 2010 at 10:12 am
what if we traded Bush for Lynch and McFadden for Brown?
straight up …
would Oakland fans be excited?
April 12th, 2010 at 10:12 am
I think nickle corner was a HUGE liability for us on 3rd downs.
Our nickle corner had more ejections than interceptions, and more penalties than passes defensed.
Not good.
April 12th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Vegas: I don’t think Routt was tendered at a 1st & 3rd to return as nickel corner
he’s either going to start at CB or get cut at 53 man roster time imo
open competition between he & CJ again this year.
and I think CJ wins again!
April 12th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Lynch would be a nice addition here. He runs with a lot of intensity. I dont think we have a strong enough QB to keep him motivated though.
April 12th, 2010 at 10:25 am
The more I think about it, I think Al drafts Berry and converts him to CB.
CB-Berry
CB-Nnamdi
Nickel-CJ
April 12th, 2010 at 10:31 am
The more I think about it, I think Al drafts Berry and converts him to CB.
***
then here’s hoping the Chiefs or Browns take him and he’s not on the board at #8 !!!
April 12th, 2010 at 10:33 am
Lynch would be a nice addition here. He runs with a lot of intensity. I dont think we have a strong enough QB to keep him motivated though.
***
Bills: terrible coaching staff, terrible QB’s, terrible O-Line
Raiders: terrible coaching staff, terrible QB’s, terrible O-Line
at least he’d be home in CA, with better weather! haha
April 12th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Raiders need to trade that first pick for proven talents along either the dline or oline. ie haynesworth or gaithers or more second or third round picks as mentioned above. We havent picked a good first rounder in several years
April 12th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Question for CJ, what the hell took you so long to decide to lose the weight? Also if there is no excuse for a QB with a gut then what’s Big Ben’s excuse?
I’ve seen many QB’s with a gut. A lot of them are in the HOF!! Russell just needs to play well enough for the Raiders to win and the rest doesn’t matter. It would be awesome to se him reach his full potential.
The biggest question for Russell is does he want it bad enough to do whatever it takes to get it. Gut or no gut.
BTW Jerry hasn’t even been to OTA’s to say anything about what’s going on there. So whoever said that Russell is bouncing passes to WR’s is reading a year old report and to dumb to know it or is making an attempt to decieve others.
April 12th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Cambell for a middle to late rounder anyone??????????
April 12th, 2010 at 10:38 am
Russell 24-7
An unnamed team executive spoke with AOL Fanhouse, touting JaMarcus Russell’s instant chemistry with new offensive coordinator Hue Jackson.
Jackson, according to the story, was told that to build trust with Russell, he had to enlist the help of Russell’s family members in Mobile, Ala. And he’s done that.
“We have to develop an attitude, a belief as a team and organization of winning thinking and preparation,” the source told writer Thomas George. “That has to come from JaMarcus and from his position. It’s his job to lose. He is aware of that.”
Bruce Gradkowski probably is, too.
And this from the National Football Post:
Northwestern quarterback Mike Kafka has worked out for the New England Patriots, Cleveland Browns, Oakland Raiders, Cincinnati Bengals, according to a source close to the program with knowledge of the situation.
Kakfa is a rising draft prospect who excelled in the East-West Shrine game, delivering the game winning touchdown pass in the final second as he passed for 150 yards and was named the Offensive Most Valuable Player.
The 6-foot-3, 225-pounder improved his 40-yard dash to 4.81 seconds at his Pro Day workout after running a 4.91 at the NFL scouting combine where he also registered a 32-inch vertical leap and a 9-2 broad jump.
Kafka will be a mid-round pick.
Posted By: Vittorio Tafur (SF Gate)
April 12th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Priest,
I was talking about last year’s OTA’s, where Jerry reported the one-hops. Here’s what I said:
“And from Jerry’s reports of last year’s first week of OTA’s, where Russell was one-hoping guys and not completing passes WITH NO DEFENSE ON THE FIELD, just goes to show he didn’t do squat in the offseason last year”
Last year it says. How did you read that and think I was talking this year?
April 12th, 2010 at 10:42 am
—”Vikings re-signed restricted free agent S Eric Frampton to a one-year, $1.101 million contract. Frampton, 26, isn’t a major contributor on defense, but has settled in as a core special teamer for Minnesota. The former fifth-round pick out of Washington State racked up 16 tackles on kick and punt coverage last season”—
Remember him? he was the 2007 version of Darnell Bing =)
April 12th, 2010 at 10:44 am
I do not think JRussel will excel as a Raider ever. We should see signs of good play already, getting benched last year was the last straw. Get rid of him.
April 12th, 2010 at 10:44 am
Ben Roethlisberger is 241 lbs.
not 265, 271 or 290!
he was sacked 50 times last year! (Russell? 33)
now compare his stats with JaFranchise and get back to me … without excuses please (ie owner, coaches & teammates)
April 12th, 2010 at 10:46 am
trade the walrus for Eric Frampton!
nevermind. we got Hiram Eugene & Jerome Boyd for special teams
yippee!
April 12th, 2010 at 10:48 am
I do not think JRussel will excel as a Raider ever. We should see signs of good play already, getting benched last year was the last straw. Get rid of him.
***
Agreed Dan. JaWalrus got outplayed by Bruce & Charlie last year because he sucks – not because they are awesome!
April 12th, 2010 at 10:50 am
My apologies I’ll admit I scanned the post. I don’t read many and scan most that I do read.
April 12th, 2010 at 10:51 am
So when did you weigh him?
April 12th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Wassup w/ Capt. Kirk and Howard???
Looks like they’ll be sticking around or be traded on draft day.
April 12th, 2010 at 10:53 am
# The Big Banana Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 9:58 am
The Jets decided to administer a little payback for the girl assaulted by Roethlisberger. They just raped Pittsburgh for Santonio Holmes.
…………….
I hope you didn’t spend a lot of time on that.
April 12th, 2010 at 10:53 am
I would also like to see us trade that late round pick for campbell and add on as a FA maybe levi brown. As mentioned way back up the blog a fb would be nice as well.
April 12th, 2010 at 10:54 am
So when did you weigh him?
***
just after you did!
April 12th, 2010 at 10:54 am
Priest,
How bad would Jamarcus have to play for you to (ignore his race and) admit he is not the QB you believed him to be when drafted?
April 12th, 2010 at 10:57 am
No worries Priest, I am critical enough of Russell, no need to perpetuate it!!
Curious, who do you think takes the first snap of camp with the first-string offense and who starts the first preseason game.
I believe that it may be best to have Russell come in the first game or two of preseason in the middle of the games and play agains some 2nd and 3rd stringers. Hopefully he could light it up, gain some confidence, and than have him start game 2 or 3 of preseason with his newfound confidence.
What say you?
April 12th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Just as I thought RRS talking out of your rear end as always.
I’ll be the judge of that Bo and he is jus about there anything resembing last year is completely unacceptable to me. I think last year was last year I anticipate a different player this year………period
April 12th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Campbell off the market
April 12th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Vegas: Russell’s problem isn’t confidence. He thinks he did a great job last year, remember? the reason we weren’t winning games with him behind center is because “guys weren’t making plays for him, like they were for Bruce” remember ???
and if he turned up his nose at a pay reduction, obviously he thinks he’s worth every bit of the $9.5 million he’s scheduled to make this season …
April 12th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Priest, do you know any Raider employees, and I mean ‘on the field’, so to speak, who play a little hockey on the side? Well, someone I know who plays hockey in San Mateo talked to him, and said that the whole frekin’ organization is pissed at Al right now over Russell. I mean where they’ve all lost respect for Al, and they all berate him behind his back now. Everyone. I gave you the backdrop, so believe me or not.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 10:54 am
Priest,
How bad would Jamarcus have to play for you to (ignore his race and) admit he is not the QB you believed him to be when drafted?
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
priesttj Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 10:58 am
I’ll be the judge of that Bo.
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
LMAO.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Jason campbell will sign his 1-yr, $3-plus-million RFA tender today, taking him off RFA market
April 12th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Brady Quinn is a picture of fitness and he stinks, Tim Couch was every scouts dream and he took the pipe.
Big Ben’s gut is legendary but you ignorant because he wins. In the end that’s all that matters, who wins………..period
April 12th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Priest,
Do you feel Jamarcus should take a pay cut?
April 12th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Big Ben’s gut is legendary but you ignorant because he wins.
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
I’ll be the judge of whether I ignorant.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:04 am
Ben Roethlisberger just got away with raping another woman.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:04 am
Not sure why we are debating whether he is on the right track or not. What has happend for anyone to believe JRussel is gonna play any different next season?
April 12th, 2010 at 11:05 am
Lynn: Jason Campbell signed his tender, but that doesn’t mean the Redskins won’t try to trade him either before or on draft day.
players have to sign that tender BEFORE they can be traded anyways (according to PFT)
April 12th, 2010 at 11:05 am
Lynn from Snot Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Jason campbell will sign his 1-yr, $3-plus-million RFA tender today, taking him off RFA market
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
All the speculation was about a trade anyway. Nothing has changed.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:05 am
Weight is far from the be-all-end-all to a QB’s success.
Jamarcus can excel at 290 or suck at 250.
Just like poker, all you can do is try your best to put the odds in your favor, and see what happens. Playing at 260 seems like a better chance of succeding than 290.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:06 am
I’m all for Cambell if we trade away a late rounder.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:06 am
You guys heard me say it before, I will repeat
JRUSS <——- Raiders Starting QB….
April 12th, 2010 at 11:06 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 10:54 am
So when did you weigh him?
***
just after you did!
________________________________________________________
bwahahahahahahaha
April 12th, 2010 at 11:06 am
LT DAN Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 11:04 am
What has happend for anyone to believe JRussel is gonna play any different next season?
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Absolutely nothin. Say it again.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:07 am
I wonder if you asked JRUSS team memers off camera what they think about JRUSS… Wonder about the response…
April 12th, 2010 at 11:07 am
LMAO….watching this USC-ND game on espn classic, and who returns the first kickoff but none other than Huggy Bear himself!!!
Now Keith Jackson is saying that “the hammer” Justin Fargas may have been injured on the opening kickoff, lol.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:08 am
What has happend for anyone to believe JRussel is gonna play any different next season?
=======================================
He did develop a new Crap table toss.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:08 am
the only way we see a new QB, is in 2011-2012.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Reader Poll: Who has bigger manboobs, Mickelson or JaWalrus?
April 12th, 2010 at 11:10 am
I cant stand mickelson…. F him and his horse and buggy…. his wife is nice though…
April 12th, 2010 at 11:11 am
Jason Campbell signing his tender makes it MORE likely for him to be traded imo. smart move by him, because now he’s locked in at that salary either playing for the Redskins as a backup or traded to another team to compete for a starter gig
Morrison & Howard aren’t that smart unless they want to stay in Oakland. Do they really think at this point (3 days before the tender deadline) another team will be interested in trading for them when they’ve been on the market since March 5th with no visits to another NFL club? sign the tender. theres your salary for the season. if the Raiders trade you, good for you – you got your wish!
April 12th, 2010 at 11:11 am
Address the oline with 2 of the first 3 picks.
Mix in a DT in te the first 3 unless SUH, Mccoy are
available….
April 12th, 2010 at 11:12 am
Post #298, is exactly what I’m talking about in here yu have everybody speaking for this kid saying what he thinks what he does what wont do and who he is. Fact is none of them have ever met him talked t him. And don’t the first iota of a clue what he thinks.
They have some after game sound bites from him or teammates when he’s cornered be the media and has to respond and he said some very ignorant things. That was then, this 6 months later. How he feels now abut all of that who knows. I don’t know and neither do they.
It’s a guy on the internet giving his opinion as fact.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:13 am
I am thinking howard and morrison will come into play on draft day. not signing tender is plain dumb. Shrinks your window and opportunities.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:14 am
I wonder if you asked JRUSS team members off camera what they think about JRUSS… Wonder about the response…
April 12th, 2010 at 11:14 am
If we keep one of the two (Morrison, Howard), who do you think stays?
April 12th, 2010 at 11:14 am
I feel bad for Mickelson. he won the Masters and all the press is covering is some douche-bag who finished in 4th …
BSPN has 30 minutes on Tiger and 2 minutes on the winner
bogus
thats like if the Raiders won the Super Bowl, but the media was praising the Chiefs for making the wild-card imo
April 12th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Yea, I wouldn’t be suprised if either/both morrison and howard got traded away on draft day.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:16 am
Ocmulgee, Georgia D.A. Fred Bright confirmed Monday that Ben Roethlisberger will not be charged with sexual assault.
Roethlisberger had been accused of forcing himself upon a 20-year-old student at Middleville College early last month. Bright admitted Monday that the case could “not be proven without a reasonable doubt.” Bright also revealed that the girl was bleeding in the genital area after the incident, but too little male DNA was found on her body. Roethlisberger is likely to also avoid NFL discipline, but will meet with commissioner Roger Goodell this week.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:17 am
I always hated when the girls at the bar were ragging. They never tell you ahead of time. They should have to wear a name-tag or something.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:18 am
If we keep one of the two (Morrison, Howard), who do you think stays?
***
since we traded for Wimbley and Scott beat him out at WLB last year, i’d say Howard
at OLB we’ve also got youngsters Nixon & Norris for competition
all we got at MLB is undrafted oft-injured Ricky Brown
April 12th, 2010 at 11:19 am
Theo if JRussel is our qb we will be drafting top ten next year again, I am afraid.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:19 am
RRS, are you calling the black golfer a douchebag?
April 12th, 2010 at 11:21 am
BSJ, nope
I called Tiger Woods a douchebag …
hehe
April 12th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Thec07,
I ask them all the time from Olineman to DE’s you’ll get different responses just like anything else. Some come out instrong support some don’t. I do know this his recievers think highly of him the ones I talked to. This offseason Tyvon said he thought it was just a matter of time before he is one of the great QB’s in the game. But that was on camera. Kahlil Barnes thinks very highly of him.
I’ll jusst say this when I talk to his teamates I get a very different feeling than what I hear from the media…….period
April 12th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Dear Al,
Please let me come GM for a year. I will work for minimum wage and guarantee a better than 5-11 season.
Yours truly,
maddenraiderfan
(here’s hoping Al reads this site)
April 12th, 2010 at 11:24 am
BSJ –
I know the Saints won the Super Bowl, but I’d rather talk about the greatness of SD since they won 11 straight games entering the playoffs without Jamal Williams or a running game for 30 minutes …
cool?
which is the bigger story?
thats the way I see Mickelson/Woods
April 12th, 2010 at 11:26 am
If Jamarcus improves this year, I vote to have Eddie Anderson follow around McSkinny next offseason.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Go A’s!!!!!!!
April 12th, 2010 at 11:27 am
maddenraiderfan: I’d love to have you come and work for me. You’ll have the same amount of authority as Mike Lombardi when he worked for me, ok?
job #1 : here are your choices for the 2010 NFL Draft
Round 1 OT Bruce Campbell or DE Jason Pierre-Paul
Round 2 QB Tim Tebow or WR Jacoby Ford
Round 3 MLB Donald Butler or CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
Round 4 RB Joe McKnight or DE Austen Lane
Round 5 CB Myron Lewis, S Myron Rolle, WR Dez Briscoe or DT Linval Joseph (pick 2)
Round 7 DE Daniel Te’o-Nesheim, CB Sam Shields, RB Shawnbrey McNeal or DT Earl Mitchell (pick 2)
Good Luck son,
Al Davis
April 12th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Bay-Bridge World Series!!!
The A’s need a bat. You heard it here first, they will go after Carlos Lee or Berkman of the Astros around the trade deadline.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Kahlil Barnes thinks very highly of him.
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Is that Khalif’s agent?
April 12th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Jamarcus Russell is going to be traded to Colts for Offensive Guard and 8th round pick in 2011 Draft.
Apr 11 2010 23:35:32
Jason Campbell to BILLS for a 3 rd round pick, Lynch to OAKLAND for 3rd round pick.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:30 am
TJ: what part of 3 TD’s and 17 turnovers is appealing to you?
headcase Barnes thinks highly of him? ok nevermind.
forget the Russell we’ve seen for 3 seasons …
expect 4000 yards & 30 TD’s . booyah!
the greatness of the Raiders is in it’s future
April 12th, 2010 at 11:31 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 11:27 am
maddenraiderfan: I’d love to have you come and work for me. You’ll have the same amount of authority as Mike Lombardi when he worked for me, ok?
job #1 : here are your choices for the 2010 NFL Draft
Round 1 OT Bruce Campbell or DE Jason Pierre-Paul
Round 2 QB Tim Tebow or WR Jacoby Ford
Round 3 MLB Donald Butler or CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
Round 4 RB Joe McKnight or DE Austen Lane
Round 5 CB Myron Lewis, S Myron Rolle, WR Dez Briscoe or DT Linval Joseph (pick 2)
Round 7 DE Daniel Te’o-Nesheim, CB Sam Shields, RB Shawnbrey McNeal or DT Earl Mitchell (pick 2)
Good Luck son,
Al Davis
——————————————
Done
Round 1 OT Bruce Campbell
Round 2 QB Tim Tebow
Round 3 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah (you laugh RR, but I really like this kid. I actually hope we get him)
Round 4 DE Austen Lane
Round 5 DT Linval Joseph (pick 2)
Round 7 DT Earl Mitchell (pick 2)
Go for the double DT pick at the end. 1 should hopefully work out.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:32 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 11:24 am
BSJ –
I know the Saints won the Super Bowl, but I’d rather talk about the greatness of SD since they won 11 straight games entering the playoffs without Jamal Williams or a running game for 30 minutes …
cool?
which is the bigger story?
thats the way I see Mickelson/Woods
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Um, I didn’t even bring up Tiger. You did. I just despise Phil Tittleson. Because of him I swear I will never own another Ford.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Ill cyall later going to bed
April 12th, 2010 at 11:32 am
That Owusu-Ansah is going to have a little piece in this week’s SI.
Peter King is very high on him. Says he is extremely intelligent, and the best KR in the draft.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:34 am
BSJ, you never should have owned a Ford in the first place …
all about Chevy, baby!
ask Howie Long
April 12th, 2010 at 11:34 am
# vegas raider Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 11:32 am
That Owusu-Ansah is going to have a little piece in this week’s SI.
Peter King is very high on him. Says he is extremely intelligent, and the best KR in the draft.
————————
Screw that, I want him as #2 CB. Hello Nnamdi #2.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:34 am
After the Randy Hanson incident, I kept waiting for this headline: The greatness of the Raiders is in the suture.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:35 am
WR Seyi Ajirotutu from Fresno St has a better name and is my sleeper pick at WR.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:35 am
The greatness of the Raiders is in the suture.
***
LOL!
again, only 10 percent of this blog will get that …
April 12th, 2010 at 11:36 am
I don’t get it.
hahahhahaha
April 12th, 2010 at 11:37 am
BSJ doesn’t want Ford’s because they didn’t participate in BO’s socialist takeover of American automakers.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:37 am
Trade DMAC for a vocabulary!
April 12th, 2010 at 11:38 am
trade JaWalrus for a Ford!
April 12th, 2010 at 11:39 am
Trade DMAC for a thesaurus better!
April 12th, 2010 at 11:39 am
vegas raider Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 11:37 am
BSJ doesn’t want Ford’s because they didn’t participate in BO’s socialist takeover of American automakers.
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
When Iacocca went begging was it socialism too?
April 12th, 2010 at 11:39 am
maddenraiderfan: you get 1 more pick in Rounds 5 & 7 bro …
April 12th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Iacocca didn’t rewrite bankruptcy law to screw shareholders and bondholders.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Actually Vegas, GM should have been shut down. US companies simply do not design very good cars. American workers, however, still do a very good job – for foreign bosses like Honda, Toyota and Benz.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:43 am
GM shareholders and bondholders were clearly pre-screwed. How dumb do you have to be to buy equity in GM?
April 12th, 2010 at 11:44 am
US companies simply do not design very good cars.
============================
Back in the days they did.
I own a 1966 and 1967 Mustang + I have a 1979 Caprice Classic.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:44 am
Then again, Priest is still buying stock in JaThargic.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:46 am
#361, agree.
And Iaocca never got any money from the Gubment, they just guaranteed his (Chrysler’s) debt (which I don’t support either)
Ok enough politico’s, back to Russell’s bustline.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:46 am
25 homosexuals are protesting at the Assemblies of God headquarters in Springfield, MO.
BSJ: friends of yours?
April 12th, 2010 at 11:48 am
Is Santonio really that great? I really don’t know, but by the looks of this surprising trade, must not be…
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Steelers-trade-Santonio-Holmes-to-Jets-for-a-use?urn=nfl,233473
April 12th, 2010 at 11:48 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 11:46 am
25 homosexuals are protesting at the Assemblies of God headquarters in Springfield, MO.
BSJ: friends of yours?
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Splain this please?
April 12th, 2010 at 11:48 am
How dumb do you have to be to buy equity in GM?
*********************************
Sadly, just about every Tom, Dick and Harry mutual fund had some type of GM exposure (more bonds than equity but still).
So just about every 401K had some type of exposure, albeit fairly small.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:49 am
some interesting stats from last year….per Peter King.
Stat of the Week
You think it’s tough to pick a quarterback out of college football who will succeed in the NFL? I say it’s harder to pick a pass-rusher. And when I talk to coaches and personnel people around the league, it’s maddening to them to try to figure out if Derrick Morgan or Jason Pierre-Paul — or maybe Sergio Kindle, if he goes to a 4-3 team and plays end — will be productive rushing the quarterback.
A look at the nine defensive ends picked in the first two rounds of the 2009 draft shows that only one rushed the passer at a big-league level as a rookie. That was Brian Orakpo, the 13th overall pick, by Washington. He had 11 sacks and was getting some double-teams by the end of the season. Here are the other eight college defensive ends (one exception — Connor Barwin was a jack-of-all-trades at Cincinnati) and how they fared rushing the passer as rookies:
Defensive Proficiency For 2009 Draft Picks
Player Team ‘09 Overall Pick Games Sacks
*Tyson Jackson Chiefs 3 16 0
Aaron Maybin Bills 11 16 0
Larry English Chargers 16 16 2
Robert Ayers Broncos 18 15 0
Everette Brown Panthers 43 15 2.5
Connor Barwin Texans 46 16 4.5
Paul Kruger Ravens 57 9 0
**Cody Brown Cardinals — – —
– — – Total: 103 9
* Jackson, a 3-4 defensive end, is not expected to be a pass-rushing end in the Chiefs’ scheme. Most 3-4 ends are asked to be run-stuffers and a player who clears the way for outside linebackers to make plays.
** Spent season on IR with a bad wrist
Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/04/11/bryant/2.html#ixzz0kugqueQH
Get a free NFL Team Jacket and Tee with SI Subscription
April 12th, 2010 at 11:51 am
I think Matt Shaunesshy looked better or just as good as any of those guys except for Orakpo.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:51 am
So just about every 401K had some type of exposure, albeit fairly small.
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Not mine. I will consider small or large cap funds, but not NEGATIVE cap.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Actually Vegas, GM should have been shut down. US companies simply do not design very good cars. American workers, however, still do a very good job – for foreign bosses like Honda, Toyota and Benz.
==================
American auto makers decide to use built in terminality to trap buyers into leasing or making payments on a car they DESIGNED to break down before that contract was up, then they just roll them into a new lease for another 5 yrs.
Built them so you CAN’T work on them. No more shade tree mechanic and all for the decree of the 90s and 2000s “Maximum short term profit”.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:52 am
9 total sacks out of the #2 thru #9 drafted DE’s, COMBINED!!!
No to Pierre-Paul and Morgan!!!
April 12th, 2010 at 11:53 am
LOL….guarantee your large-cap had some, and now was Halliburton.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:56 am
aig Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 11:51 am
I think Matt Shaunesshy looked better or just as good as any of those guys except for Orakpo.
==================
In limited exposure the kid shed blocks, sustained the edge and despite not being known for it, managed some decent pressure.
A positive for sure but he has a history of knee problems.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Robert Ayers were coming on strong after the combine and senior bowl and that only says one thing to me….it’s not the combine. It’s the game film.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:57 am
From the irony department:
Iacocca, who saved Chrysler from bankruptcy during the early 1980s, stands to lose his pension from a supplemental executive retirement plan and a guaranteed company car provided by Chrysler for his use during his lifetime because of the Chrysler bankruptcy. The loss of the pension and company car is to take place once the bankruptcy court approves the sale of Chrysler to Chrysler Group LLC, with ownership of the new company by the United Auto Workers, Fiat and the governments of the United States and Canada
April 12th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Does Matt S have a knee problem history?
I thought he just broke his leg in college.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 11:48 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 11:46 am
25 homosexuals are protesting at the Assemblies of God headquarters in Springfield, MO.
BSJ: friends of yours?
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Splain this please?
====================
What were they protesting I wonder?
April 12th, 2010 at 11:59 am
*fart*
April 12th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Conan will be back (on TBS) in November
April 12th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
The former NBC host will push comedian George Lopez’s show back one hour to fill the 11 p.m. spot
April 12th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Sign that sanity has infiltrated Raider HQ: Al trades down and stocks up on linemen during the draft. Sign that Al remains unbalanced: he drafts Taylor Mays. Which outcome do you bet on?
April 12th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Shaughnessy is the kind of player you could envision stepping out on the field in a leather helmet playing for George Halas. He’s overcome doubters to prove he can play on the defensive line as a 230-pound freshman, only to start seven games before a late-season knee injury.
vegas raider Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Does Matt S have a knee problem history?
I thought he just broke his leg in college.
=========================
“As a sophomore, he made a rapid recovery from knee surgery and would start the final 33 games of his career. He continued to battle knee and foot injuries, but when he was counted out, Shaughnessy would just put on his jersey, step on the field and give his coaches more than they could ever ask for from a player.”
“Shaughnessy enrolled at Wisconsin as a 230-pound true freshman in 2005. He earned Freshman All-American recognition and was named All-Big Ten Conference honorable mention. In his first campaign with the Badgers, he collected 39 tackles (20 solos), 2.5 sacks and 7.5 stops for losses before his season came to an end when he suffered a torn ligament in his left knee vs. Iowa, sitting out the last two contests.”
He broke his leg at spring camp 2008 and played the year anyway.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
What were they protesting I wonder?
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Have you associated me somehow with homo rights protests?
April 12th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Speaking of TV. I think my run of stolen cable has finally come to an end. My basic cable is really BASIC now. All my favorite channels are gone. I’ll need to subscribe to something now.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Well there you have it…thanks Nmamdi
April 12th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Sounds like Dez Bryant is moving back up the draft board. I’m still hoping we take him.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Sounds like Dez Bryant is moving back up the draft board. I’m still hoping we take him.
———————————–
Why?
April 12th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
maddenraiderfan Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Sounds like Dez Bryant is moving back up the draft board. I’m still hoping we take him.
———————————–
Why?
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Why is he moving up, or why do I hope we take him?
April 12th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Dez Bryant mother was 12 when she gave birth to him.
He is lucky he is even normal, better yet a world-class athlete.
As long as he doesn’t go within the division, I am kind of pulling for him.
Don’t think we should draft him though. Too many other holes.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Say all you want about Dez…but the following count
1. Never committed a crime.
2. Dont smoke weeds
3. Dont drink.
If above 3 is true, I’m all for Al getting this guy. He is a monster on the field. The closest thing to a young TO.
“I just go and try to be me,” he said. “People who know me know I’m not a bad guy. I made a mistake. I learned from it. I think it matured me. What I want these teams to know is I never committed a crime. I’ve never been in trouble with the police. Don’t smoke weed. Don’t drink. Whoever drafts me is going to get a dedicated, hard-working player.”
April 12th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
DMAC Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Speaking of TV. I think my run of stolen cable has finally come to an end. My basic cable is really BASIC now. All my favorite channels are gone. I’ll need to subscribe to something now.
=========================
All part of the “Thief in the night” policy being implemented by the massive illegal monopolies allowed to exist because they are “multi national” and theres no regulation.
With in 2 yrs Wal Mart will be charging whatever they feel like.
WAL MARTS PROJECT IMPACT Phase 2? Eliminate all competition…
http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1920698,00.html
April 12th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Santonio Holmes for a 5th rounder? I think the Jets are going to be competing with the top teams in AFC. I know Holmes messed up, but a 5th rounder, really?!?!.
I miss the days of the Raiders picking up misfits, and making them productive. Now if we pick up malcontents they just set us back even further on top of not wanting to be in Oakland.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 8:48 am
That post has got to be in the top 10 of all time….
good words Bro……
April 12th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Bryant’s an attitude and waaaaaay too slow to be a Raider wide out.
Who the f shows up at a work out you KNOW is coming YEARS in advance OUT OF SHAPE?!!!
He KNOWs there were 10s of millions on the line.
Bryant’s got more red flags than the Republican CIA.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
vegas raider Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Dez Bryant mother was 12 when she gave birth to him.
He is lucky he is even normal, better yet a world-class athlete.
As long as he doesn’t go within the division, I am kind of pulling for him.
Don’t think we should draft him though. Too many other holes.
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
No kidding. It says a lot about thim that he’s come this far IMO. We’ve got a lot of other holes, but the #8 spot is tricky. If Clausen falls out of the top ten, Okung, Williams and Bulaga could all be gone. The question becomes, why reach for Cambell or Davis when a guy like Bryant is there, IF he’s there? There will probably be a similar player when we pick in the second round. And IMO, WR is a big need. I don’t think we have a no.1 guy and he could solve that right there.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++==
Just wait until we get runaway inflation…. WalMart
will be charging up the A$$ for everthing. How many of you own gold or silver???
April 12th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Debo: how about the run defense?
April 12th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Bryant=Head case as well as ticking time bomb!
April 12th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
How many of you own gold or silver???
***
lots of spelunking here in Podunk.
just a matter of time. haha
April 12th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
I am going on record….
1. JRUSS will be the starting QB 2010 – 20111
2. We will have a logical seisible draft.
TRENCHMEN will arrive…
April 12th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Debo,
I’m a value guy. I don’t want the 4th rated OT or 3rd rated DT at #8 in the whole draft.
My short list of who will probably be available to take would be McClain, Iupati, Pouncey or Berry.
All are the highest rated at their position. You can put Bryant on that list, but I don’t think we need another young WR.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Phil Mickelson’s a fagg.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Thec, you are really going out on a limb there lol
April 12th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
McClain is a no go at #8 unless we draft a HUGE space eating DT like he had in college.
Ravens massive DT’s are the reason Ray Ray’s been so successful
April 12th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Jruss starting is probably a lock. Whether he makes it past game 3 as a starter is not a lock.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Agreed…
April 12th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
here is what I found last time while spelunking:
http://www.goofbutton.com/images/spelunking.jpg
MR’s dream come true!
April 12th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
HairyBush Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Thec, you are really going out on a limb there lol
+++++++++++++++++++++++++===
thanks its a tradition….lol….
April 12th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
HairyBush Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Bryant=Head case as well as ticking time bomb!
===================
Lets hope he remembers his f’in cleats on game days.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Debo: how about the run defense?
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
I’ve tried to figure that out and I just can’t. I’d love to think we can just plug in a big 1st or 2nd round pick and everything would be solved, but I’m not convinced. I do think our linebackers have sucked the last few years. It’s not all on him, but Kirk sucks and I think the team has finally figured that out. I’m hoping the overhaul at linebacker really helps this year.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
RR, You JACKa$$…I clicked on that link at work…lol
April 12th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Later fellas
April 12th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
I have SLV in my IRA. Not much, been better lately but not as good as the overall market.
It’s a hedge. Another good-one is shorting the treasury. If inflation hits, interest rates go up.
PST and TBT are two ways to do that.
hit me up thec07, raiderfanlv@yahoo.com
I got winners. Just like Lenny Dykstra.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Priettj
——————————————
LMAO!!!!! “Question for CJ, what the hell took you so long to decide to lose the weight?”
If you must know I have no problem telling you, I hope it helps somebody else out there. My dad had a massive heart attack in his 40s. He lived to tell about it and last year he had a heart transplant. After years of being married, content and loving to eat I decided it was time to think serious about my choices. So I developed some healthy habits, brother.
Now back to Russel, I stand by my post. If I was in Russell’s shoes I would need to hear the same thing.
He gets paid to pysically and mentally perform on the field and he ain’t ding it!!
He may be the nicest guy on the planet but his game shows a lack of preperation. The weight issue is only a part of the real issue, that he “seems” to be unprepared on game day. Work hard, play hard, right? Well he has the play hard part going but what about the work hard?
You don’t take a man’s millions of dollars pay check, show up in minks, gold, bling-bling, gut out not producing on the field, he rides the bench, never takes responsability for bad play and he has the nerve to say you did a good job. Now if he was making his reads, hitting hie WRs then he can party all day. But he is not doing that man he sucks right now flat out! I hope his game picks up but right now his game is weak. There is a lot of blame to go around but when your QB (the future of the franchise) looks like the pulling guard on your team, throwing garbage on the field. I am not paying to see that BS.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
N21 – if we draft McClain at #8 :
cut DT’s Joseph & Cooper.
get some free agents like Howard Green & Hollis Thomas for depth instead.
then draft Cam Thomas or Torrell Troup
April 12th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Heres a clue as to why we should stay away from Dez. He’s buddies with Azz h-ole Dieon Sanders.
So sick of that jerk ruining good football players by encouraging them not to tackle or sacrifice to make the play.
Dieon’s “I don’t tackle people” bull sh*t p-isses me arf.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Question, WTF do we even bother with the ZBS when
1. No one really wins with it.
2. Players that can run in it are few.
Last super bowl winner that ran ZBS was the donks…
F the ZBS, go back to the real…
April 12th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
McClain is a no go at #8 unless we draft a HUGE space eating DT like he had in college.
Ravens massive DT’s are the reason Ray Ray’s been so successful
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
It’s part of the reason, but not the only reason Nnamdi. Ray Lewis is a certified badass! Look at the angles he takes. Look at him in coverage, the way he times up his hits. His insticts. And when he gets to the ballcarrier, he doesn’t miss. Kirk Morrison isn’t even in the same universe he is.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
I’m hoping the overhaul at linebacker really helps this year.
***
Debo: are you satisfied with Bryant, Joseph or Cooper starting 16 games next to Tommy Kelly at DT?
April 12th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Here’s the real question.
1. Do you draft what you need?
2. or do you take the best player available?
April 12th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Thec, you are right he will be the starting QB because he has Als big money in his pocket, but I tell you what if he does not produce the first half of the season he is done. Out of the current QBs we have on our roster Al is not looking at right now. He still sees Russell as having the most upside if he gets his game together.
As a Raider fan I want to see Russel do well he had so much potential but excuse time is over.
———————————
Thec07 Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
I am going on record….
1. JRUSS will be the starting QB 2010 – 20111
2. We will have a logical seisible draft.
TRENCHMEN will arrive…
April 12th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
I hate to say it but if Bryant is on the Patriots He will be succesful. If he goes to Oakland we will be mocked for years to come, as well as him putting up DHB type #’s. (he just won’t be as pleasent as DHB). Bryant has cancer written all over him. If this was the 2002 Raiders I would say WTF go draft him, why not? 2010 Raiders, not so much. Trade down for SUH!
April 12th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Debo,
absolutely correct on KM analysis.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
418 RR:
Thats assuming you think the run D is broken. Davis does not. He thinks (and rightly so) the offense needs fixed to help the run game.
No way we pay a guy with bad bowels and poor coverage skills *th overall money. Bout the same chacne of getting a run stuffing DT who can’t rush the passer.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Ravens DT’s are huge, good…… and are undrafted and late round picks.
Here’s the 4 NT’s listed on the Ravens roster (Ngata is listed as DE)
Kelly Gregg-6th rounder
Lamar Divins- undrafted
Kelly Tavalou- undrafted
Brandon Mckinny-undrafted
Justin Bannan is a DE/DT, and he is a 5th rounder.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
I clicked on that link at work
***
HAHA! sorry Thec
April 12th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
HB do you mean trade up for Suh? He may be gone at 8.
———————————–
HairyBush Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
I hate to say it but if Bryant is on the Patriots He will be succesful. If he goes to Oakland we will be mocked for years to come, as well as him putting up DHB type #’s. (he just won’t be as pleasent as DHB). Bryant has cancer written all over him. If this was the 2002 Raiders I would say WTF go draft him, why not? 2010 Raiders, not so much. Trade down for SUH!
April 12th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Trade DMAC for Lenny Dykstra!
April 12th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
HB do you mean trade up for Suh? He may be gone at 8.
Yeah, I meant trade up
April 12th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Vegas: Justin Bannan signed with the donks this offseason
April 12th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
No way we pay a guy with bad bowels and poor coverage skills 8th overall money. Bout the same chacne of getting a run stuffing DT who can’t rush the passer.
***
so you think theres a better chance of getting a penetrator like Brian Price or Lamarr Houston in Round 2 than a run clogger like Dan Williams or Terrence Cody in Round 1 ???
me too, unfortunately!
April 12th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
aig Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Debo,
absolutely correct on KM analysis.
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Believe me, it pains me to say it because he’s a good guy and all. But he’s got to go.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Debo: are you satisfied with Bryant, Joseph or Cooper starting 16 games next to Tommy Kelly at DT?
April 12th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Yeah, Vegas, they had some big ole fat guys like Siragusa (I’ll never forgive him for that Gannon Championship sack th fat tub of guts)
April 12th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Debo: are you satisfied with Bryant, Joseph or Cooper starting 16 games next to Tommy Kelly at DT?
==================
Fug, I’m not.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Raider Debo…
Completely agree with your post 421. I get really tired of reading the posts in here that put Morrison and Ray Lewis in the same sentence. Yeah, Ray has help up front, but anybody that thinks that Morrison could be as successful with same is just not watching him play.
I saw an interview with Ray a couple of years ago and he was asked why the Ravens defense is so successful year in and year out. His response? Discipline. Everybody knows where they’re supposed to be and what their job is, and the players hold each other accountable for that.
Watch Morrison play sometime, and ask yourself if you’re looking at a disciplined player that’s where he’s supposed to be and doing what he’s supposed to be doing.
As Debo says, he and RayRay are not even in the same universe.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
Besides Kickers and TE’s, and maybe safeties, I don’t think I am satisfied with any other of our positions.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
so you think theres a better chance of getting a penetrator like Brian Price or Lamarr Houston in Round 2 than a run clogger like Dan Williams or Terrence Cody in Round 1 ???
me too, unfortunately!
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Here’s the problem RRS, it’s great name off guys like Lamarr Houston and Dan Williams or even Cody. But how do we know they’ll be better than what we’ve got? If we were talking about the elite guys like Suh or McCoy, different story. But all these other guys have questions. So in answer to your question above, no I’m not satisfied with Bryant or Joseph next to Kelly. But I’d rather wait for Linval Joseph or Torrel Troup in the 3rd or 4th than reach for the 3rd best DT at #8.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
# DMAC Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 11:44 am
US companies simply do not design very good cars.
============================
Back in the days they did.
I own a 1966 and 1967 Mustang + I have a 1979 Caprice Classic.
________________________________________________________
well actually no, those cars might be okay on a straight road… but not in the real world and certainly not i a town-like environment..
April 12th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 11:04 am
Ben Roethlisberger just got away with raping another woman.
^^^^^^^^
Yep…and what a predictable joke that was!
The next joke will be Goodell giving him just a 1 game suspension when he should be suspended for at least 4 games for conduct detrimental to the league TWO freakin years in a row!
April 12th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
edward teach Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Raider Debo…
Completely agree with your post 421. I get really tired of reading the posts in here that put Morrison and Ray Lewis in the same sentence. Yeah, Ray has help up front, but anybody that thinks that Morrison could be as successful with same is just not watching him play.
I saw an interview with Ray a couple of years ago and he was asked why the Ravens defense is so successful year in and year out. His response? Discipline. Everybody knows where they’re supposed to be and what their job is, and the players hold each other accountable for that.
Watch Morrison play sometime, and ask yourself if you’re looking at a disciplined player that’s where he’s supposed to be and doing what he’s supposed to be doing.
As Debo says, he and RayRay are not even in the same universe.
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Couldn’t have said it better Teach. Now the hard part is finding a guy that might be in his universe. Just about anyone would be an upgrade IMO.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
439. Agreed. I lost faith in Morrison years ago.
I feel like he and Howard were brought in to counter our divisions then formidable TE’s and they helped but Morrison constant bad run play is part of the reason we suck against the run.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Round 3 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah (you laugh RR, but I really like this kid. I actually hope we get him)
****************************************************
I agree RMR
April 12th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Vegas,
the Raiders have the Pro Bowl longsnapper!
Jon Condo may not be John Conner saving the world from machines, but he is a Raider and may he longsnap us as the Long Count Calendar comes to a close.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Kirk’s best career move may be getting out of the middle.
I still think he is a fairly solid tackler and coverer, just not physical enough in the middle. Gets pushed back and makes a lot of ankle tackles.
A MLB needs to hit guys between the eyes occasionally, send a message and have a little intimidation.
And need be nowhere to be found on 3rd and 15 draws and screens.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Kelly Gregg & Haloti Ngata vs. Tommy Kelly & Gerard Warren …
talk about “not even in the same universe”
plus the Ravens run an aggressive 3-4 defense.
the Raiders run a 4-3 defense with MLB’s covering WR’s and TE’s. prevent mode. 4 man pressure up front. man2man in the secondary
scheme dictates the responsibility of the MLB. he doesn’t just roam free out there doing whatever he wants. when have you ever seen Capt Kirk even ATTEMPT to rush the line of scrimmage on a run or pass blitz?
he lead the team in tackles for a loss last year because of sweeps and toss plays. the middle of the d-line is weak. people loved MLB Danny Clark in Oakland. even nicknamed him “Hammerhead” , but the run D was just as bad (no NT)
no MLB in the league would be successful playing behind guys like Kelly, Warren, Sands, Joseph, Boschetti, Wakefield, Bryant or Cooper. I don’t care if his name is Ray Lewis, Patrick Willis or Rolando McClain. you’re setting him up for failure
April 12th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
bcz24 Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Round 3 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah (you laugh RR, but I really like this kid. I actually hope we get him)
****************************************************
I agree RMR
…………………………………with a name like that ,you sure he wont get on a plane and lite his shoes on fire
April 12th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
449. I’ve seen the cap’n rush the LOS and the Qb many times. He’s just not any good at it.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
most glaring needs – someone to play QB
quality offensive lineman(several)
a force at MLB
a fullback. ANY FULLBACK!
a run stuffing DT
April 12th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
I’d rather wait for Linval Joseph or Torrel Troup in the 3rd or 4th than reach for the 3rd best DT at #8
***
Debo: there is a big difference between a UT & NT.
there is also a HUGE drop off in talent between Williams & Cody vs. Joseph & Troup …
Dan Williams is the best nose tackle in the draft, not the 3rd best. go read Jerry Mac’s last post about him
April 12th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
bcz24 Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Round 3 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah (you laugh RR, but I really like this kid. I actually hope we get him)
****************************************************…maybe we should draft osama bin laden
April 12th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
bcz24 Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Round 3 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah (you laugh RR, but I really like this kid. I actually hope we get him)
****************************************************
I agree RMR
================
We’ve got Desmond Bryant already, but I think Alualu is more along the lines of a Davis pick.
I think we should look at Callahan Bright. Great potential if he’s finally got his poop in a group.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Just to finish the thought on Morrison; it seems plain that the coaching staff is not happy with his play.
How unhappy? Well, using the Jerry Porter/ Stanford Routt Player Trade Value Chart, that third round tender probably comes closer to about a fifth-rounder.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
N21: most of the plays I’ve seen Kirk Morrison screw up on, it’s a run right up the middle and there is a RB who goes untouched by the D-Line with a center or fullback in front of him …
RB with full head of steam + blocker vs. MLB = in a position to fail
April 12th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Well,
KM was benched for Brown. KM is not instinctive enough. He has not grown beyond is rookie year promise and potential.
Brown was a 7th round that got a 2nd tender and KM got a 3rd. That means please take him off our hands.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Yeah man, Kirk always operate like an outside LB to me dude. Great at dropping back into the zone and making ints but he seems to lack that killer instinct to hit someone so hard that they lay on the field for a minute.
Man I miss Singletary as a player. Now he was a great LB to watch play the game for Chi town. Hit you with his eyes wide open.
—————————————————
vegas raider Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Kirk’s best career move may be getting out of the middle.
I still think he is a fairly solid tackler and coverer, just not physical enough in the middle. Gets pushed back and makes a lot of ankle tackles.
A MLB needs to hit guys between the eyes occasionally, send a message and have a little intimidation.
And need be nowhere to be found on 3rd and 15 draws and screens.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
scheme dictates the responsibility of the MLB. he doesn’t just roam free out there doing whatever he wants. when have you ever seen Capt Kirk even ATTEMPT to rush the line of scrimmage on a run or pass blitz?
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
I’ve seen it alright. Did you see him bury his head into the line against the Ravens on one of McGahee’s touchdowns? He just doesn’t ever seem to know where the play is going. And we can talk scheme all you want, but what about making an open-field tackle once in a while? There have been several, but the Buffalo miss on Lynch in 2008 will always stick out in my mind. I always thaought Danny Clark sucked myself. So are you saying that Kirk Morrison is just as good as Patrick Willis or Ray Lewis?
April 12th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
I don’t know why we’re even talking about McClain & Lewis here.
Al Davis loved speedy undersized MLB’s that can cover.
we’re probably going to draft somebody like Daryl Washington, Sean Lee, Donald Butler, Jamar Chaney or Pat Angerer and continue to rank 30th against the run …
replacing Kirk alone does nothing for the Run D – trust me. You heard it here first!
April 12th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Debo: there is a big difference between a UT & NT.
there is also a HUGE drop off in talent between Williams & Cody vs. Joseph & Troup …
Dan Williams is the best nose tackle in the draft, not the 3rd best. go read Jerry Mac’s last post about him
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Totally get the difference between UT and NT, but I don’t agree that there’s a “HUGE” drop off in talent once you get to Cody and Troupe. Guys like Terrence Knighton and Sammie Lee Hill have done very well for their teams. Penetrating UTs have more value these days. If Suh or McCoy were there, easy decision. But I’m just thinking we can get a Dan Williams type player that will help us later.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
N21: most of the plays I’ve seen Kirk Morrison screw up on, it’s a run right up the middle and there is a RB who goes untouched by the D-Line with a center or fullback in front of him …
RB with full head of steam + blocker vs. MLB = in a position to fail
=========================
Almost ALL of the plays I’ve seen him fail on were plays were he completely over runs the play and abandons his gap responsibilites. He guess and guess wrong ALL THE TIME.
Poor tackler on an island, gets wired to blockers, can’t stack and makes bad audibles too.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
461. Know what DOES help the run D?
The OFFENSE.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Rockstar… I don’t think anybody’s saying that replacing Morrison alone is going to fix the run defense. I think the observation is that he’s just not a very good middle linebacker, and that replacing him would help.
This team needs to get bigger and stronger up the middle on both sides of the ball. Don’t think you’ll find too many people to argue with on that one.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Here is a youtube clip from the Turkey day game.
Watch some of the runs the Cowboys get and watch what Morrison does. Awful. Watch at the 2:15 mark and see what he does on the screen. WTF is he doing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPEDeY06WPo&feature=related
April 12th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Rockstar,
Greg Beikert was a speedy undersized MLB who could cover?????
The man was timed with a sun dial.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Terrence Knighton was playing next to John Henderson (former Top 10 overall pick & Pro Bowler) not undrafted overpaid “pants on the ground” Tommy Kelly …
Sammie Lee Hill played next to Grady Jackson last year in Detroit and they had an awful run defense!
these rookies at least had the advantage of playing next to a proven NFL nose tackle. what do we have in Oakland that even resembles a nose tackle? 1st round bust William Joseph? LOL
April 12th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
C’mon RRS. I know you’re as stubborn about this as I am about JR, but you’ve gotta tap out on this one. The guy can’t play.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
M: Greg Beikert was a 7th rounder, not a 1st rounder
Al Davis probably drafted him to play special teams!
April 12th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
I know you’re as stubborn about this as I am about JR, but you’ve gotta tap out on this one. The guy can’t play.
***
Debo: if you get to blame Russell’s play on his teammates and the coaching staff, i’m going to do the same with Morrison. it’s only fair
April 12th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
We need help on the o-line and D-line but don’t let Al fool you if Berry is there he takes him in the hopes of converting the guy to a corner back.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Nnamdi21,
agreed.
we should all list a glass to toast the health and creativity of Hue Jackson, the only best friend that the Raider Defense will need.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
list = lift
April 12th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
I know you’re as stubborn about this as I am about JR, but you’ve gotta tap out on this one. The guy can’t play.
***
Debo: if you get to blame Russell’s play on his teammates and the coaching staff, i’m going to do the same with Morrison. it’s only fair
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Well I guess JR gets three more years to prove it then. Kirk has started here for 5 years. LOL.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Well I guess JR gets three more years to prove it then.
***
he does have 3 years left on his contract …
I’d be VERY surprised if he lasts half that long
Look, I know Kirk Morrison isn’t the best MLB in the league, but he certainly isn’t the worst and he certainly doesn’t deserve the bulk of the blame for a terrible run defense. show me a dominant nose tackle in Oakland and i’ll show you a dominant run defense (with or without Capt Kirk)
April 12th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Vegas,
Having film review without me?
RRS, can you see the film?
You can NOT blame the DTs for the absolute bad angles and whiffs Morrison comes up with. And his whiffs = HUGE plays.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
There is an old saying, “you are who you are”
Kirk Morrison is the starting MLB for the worst rushing defense the last 5 years.
Tough to push that aside.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
The issue the run defense bashers are failing to acknowledge is how the SPECIFIC MLB whiffs. You take those 4 or 5 misses out of the game, the run defense is damn decent.
We are NOT getting run on for big yards on average. It is the few BIG plays the coaching staff is talking about. Same with the passing game.
April 12th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
We need help on the o-line and D-line but don’t let Al fool you if Berry is there he takes him in the hopes of converting the guy to a corner back.
================
Berry’s good enough to play nickle right now I think. Safety was a HUGE concern for Oakland for a looong azz time.
Now its looking like a strength.
As for our division rivals, they all seem to need help there desperately.
Same can be said for the center position, but I think Berry goes to KC or Cleve…
he is incredbily promising though…
April 12th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
he does have 3 years left on his contract …
I’d be VERY surprised if he lasts half that long
Look, I know Kirk Morrison isn’t the best MLB in the league, but he certainly isn’t the worst and he certainly doesn’t deserve the bulk of the blame for a terrible run defense. show me a dominant nose tackle in Oakland and i’ll show you a dominant run defense (with or without Capt Kirk)
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Funny you bring that up. Name the 4-3 MLBs in the league that Kirk could beat out. If there was one, why hasn’t one of those teams signed him to an offer sheet?
April 12th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Jhill,
Did you see the screen at the 2:15 mark?
WTF was that? He hopes backwards, than comes flying in, horrible angle, doesn’t get blocked and doesn’t lay a finger on the guy.
Purely awful.
April 12th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
jhill Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
The issue the run defense bashers are failing to acknowledge is how the SPECIFIC MLB whiffs. You take those 4 or 5 misses out of the game, the run defense is damn decent.
We are NOT getting run on for big yards on average. It is the few BIG plays the coaching staff is talking about. Same with the passing game.
=====================
This IS true, but they do get gouged for 5-7 at a clip too often.
MLB being out of postion waaay to often really does affect game out comes.
Key would be limiting their exposure by having an O that sustatins drives eats the clock and puts up points to defend so the other team is forced to throw eventually and plays to the strength of our pass ruh cover D so we can you know, play prevent…
April 12th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
481. exactly…
April 12th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Pizz off Garcia…
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/QB-Jeff-Garcia-returning-to-Eagles-;_ylt=AqNVghqbtAINrTMNYL0j55FDubYF?urn=nfl,233523
April 12th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
vegas raider Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Debo,
I’m a value guy. I don’t want the 4th rated OT or 3rd rated DT at #8 in the whole draft.
My short list of who will probably be available to take would be McClain, Iupati, Pouncey or Berry.
All are the highest rated at their position. You can put Bryant on that list, but I don’t think we need another young WR.
^^^^^^^^
Agreed!
It’s all about value and talent! Why the 4th or 5th rated tackle when you can get a #1 rated McClain, Pouncey, Iupati, Spiller or Bryant?
I think picking McClain or Pouncey at #8 would a GREAT value pick actually.
People might say that Pouncey would be a reach due to positional value, but when it comes to certain teams boards sometimes positional value and team needs are equal. Pouncey is the #1 rated Center AND Guard (rated higher than Iupati at Guard) amnd the Raiders need immediate talent and versatility at BOTH spots.
Or work a trade down with someone who wants Clausen or Bryant and look to choose Pouncey later in Round 1 or LB Sean Weatherspoon!
April 12th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
jhill Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
The issue the run defense bashers are failing to acknowledge is how the SPECIFIC MLB whiffs. You take those 4 or 5 misses out of the game, the run defense is damn decent.
We are NOT getting run on for big yards on average. It is the few BIG plays the coaching staff is talking about. Same with the passing game.
=====================
This IS true, but they do get gouged for 5-7 at a clip too often.
MLB being out of postion waaay to often really does affect game out comes.
Key would be limiting their exposure by having an O that sustatins drives eats the clock and puts up points to defend so the other team is forced to throw eventually and plays to the strength of our pass ruh cover D so we can you know, play prevent
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Problem is with the youth and injuries on offense, we needed a D that could get us the ball back, not the other way around. This overhaul at LB is intriguing. Worried about Wimbley and Scott in coverage though. I think we could still use Howard.
April 12th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Santonio suspended first 4 games, loese whole season if in trouble again…
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-jets-holmes
April 12th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Thec07 Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 11:10 am
I cant stand mickelson…. F him and his horse and buggy…. his wife is nice though…
^^^^^^^^^
As far I was concerned…..just as long as anybody BUT Tigger won the Masters than all is right.
There is a golf god! haha
April 12th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
we will get run out for big average with no NT though, even though Warren wasn’t the best he did occupy a blocker or 2 and pressure the passer, don’t think Des Bryant is the replacement
April 12th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
487. we need to get stouter on D but to give the ball back to an offense that scores TDs every 200 or so plays doesn’t help much.
April 12th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
why are guys like Warren & Sands being purged? why did we trade a 1st rounder for Richard Seymour? Why did Kirk Morrison get tendered at all? Why do players and coaches around the league have a healthy respect for him? the media doesn’t bash him like they do Russell, Heyward-Bey and others. WHY ???
the Raiders haven’t had a good run defense since 2002 when we had Adams & Parrella. you know who the MLB was back then? Napolean Harris (as a rookie) !!!
he was out of football last year, at 30 years old.
nuff said. thanks for playing fellas
April 12th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
eryneryncjrutrgsududinvn umufugrru iggrudjfurugfhu yttwdfyrffmn cvffhndginbbvvivbkbkbv 9icfv,fggiir9otg9yyg9 gh0gpyhyttohtyoiy5frgg
April 12th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
487. we need to get stouter on D but to give the ball back to an offense that scores TDs every 200 or so plays doesn’t help much.
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Agreed. I have high hopes this year. I’m anxious to see if Hue is going to change some things up.
April 12th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
erynmixdccdcnvckvcvhbvghdhgyfgggjmijfgig fvirgtrfgjgjgdugdg ddruftuhgtrutjytiiku ifthgitigtyhythjyiyiyihyhijhhhinijjhjijiiuyiu vgfgiritgtitututrrur cvffdhfggi bvjvhohhghfhitiykigi67jnvvbbggugjmhder
April 12th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
mmerynmmkbghyhppgjlllghjgihfgrgiiffufddffffgfigitgujjugryfde er bbgjfgfiht ifghhhufhgttutuuuunndxfmmkcdyeyftrteryeftrgfgtttttttttttttdddyyuuoiivh bbbjfggghh khhtyyoidiriruerurjru rfjtgrggugjjugmnbnnnnn, bmnv,,nvbn,ighhhjhvybbhbhbhb bmbkb,mnmnmnnb,v v cukbkiv bobgggihttofooppppvdjddhfhfyfg jfiffidifdjfhjbvh cfj kvjhvhvhggggghuufggbtjtihhyuytjhjjkbknjjnbkbn
April 12th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
the media doesn’t bash him like they do Russell, Heyward-Bey and others. WHY ???
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Since when does who the media bashes have anything to do with how good a player is? The media couldn’t wait to run Cedric Benson and Tank Williams out of Chicago. I bet Chicago wishes it had those guys now. And as far as Napoleon Harris being out of football at 30?? Big deal. KM will probably never play again and he’s what, 27 or 28?
April 12th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
lol …
that was the 4 year old’s contribution. sorry about that.
April 12th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Debo: Morrison is 28 years old, Russell is 24 years old
Russell won’t be in the league 4 more years. Probably not even 2 more years
Chicago purged those turds off the roster because of off-the field issues. that doesn’t apply to Kirk or JaMarcus now, does it ???
April 12th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
JHill,
I thought it might be the names of some more Polynesian fishes.
April 12th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
I don’t know why we’re even talking about McClain & Lewis here.
Al Davis loved speedy undersized MLB’s that can cover.
we’re probably going to draft somebody like Daryl Washington, Sean Lee, Donald Butler, Jamar Chaney or Pat Angerer and continue to rank 30th against the run …
replacing Kirk alone does nothing for the Run D – trust me. You heard it here first!
^^^^^^^^^
Another problem Al Davis needs to get over someday regarding his infatuation with over valuing measurables ahead of tough nasty solid football players.
However, Jamar Chaney and Donald Butler are probably the LB’s the old man will target in a Round 2 trade down scenario or in Round 3.
April 12th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
07:22 AM ET 04.12 | A spotty history of drafting tackles early in the draft should have the Lions at least a little concerned. Only four defensive tackles have been drafted in the top 10 over the past six years, and none has gone to a Pro Bowl. If the Lions take Ndamukong Suh or Gerald McCoy with the No. 2 pick, either player would become the highest-drafted DT since Oakland picked Darrell Russell second in ‘97. Russell made two Pro Bowls before his career was plagued by substance abuse and he was done in Oakland after five seasons. The last defensive tackle drafted No. 1? That’s former Lion Dan Wilkinson. Cincinnati gave Big Daddy big bucks in 1994. How’d it turn out? Google his name, and the most common search phrase that pops up is “Dan Wilkinson bust.” Maybe it should be “buyer beware.” Numbers don’t lie. Neither does history. Put the two together and they don’t add up to an encouraging draft-day scenario for the Lions.
Detroit Free Press
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Interesting. But I guess if we do draft one, he’ll be the right guy.
April 12th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Another problem Al Davis needs to get over someday regarding his infatuation with over valuing measurables ahead of tough nasty solid football players.
***
DKnight007: Agreed. if Al Davis drafts a MLB, I hope it’s Brandon Spikes or Micah Johnson in Rounds 3-5
regardless of what I think, it’s obvious he isn’t that high on the Raiders priority list …
April 12th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Debo: no matter what the stats are on Top 10 DT’s of the past, there is no way Dan Williams could turn out half as bad as JaMarcus Russell …
April 12th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Debo: Morrison is 28 years old, Russell is 24 years old
Russell won’t be in the league 4 more years. Probably not even 2 more years
Chicago purged those turds off the roster because of off-the field issues. that doesn’t apply to Kirk or JaMarcus now, does it ???
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Off-field issues?? Are you kidding me? Tank Johnson was speeding. And Cedric Benson was ACCUSED of DWI on a docked boat. He vehemently denided the charges and they were laughed out of court. They let the media and fans conduct their business and have been suffereing ever since.
April 12th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
I think Micah Johnson will be there in Round 4 and maybe Round 5.
His stock has taken a hit….but he hurt his knee in a bowl game.
Spikes would be a good 2nd round pick….he is tough and nasty and he can hit!
April 12th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
A trade down at #8 would be great to get more picks and load the team with talent….but the old man usually blows it.
April 12th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Santonio suspended first 4 games, loese whole season if in trouble again…
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-jets-holmes
What a steal for the JETS!
Santonio Holmes for a 5th rounder?
I understand the risk, but that type of risk is worth it. It’s only a 5th rounder.
April 12th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Another problem Al Davis needs to get over someday regarding his infatuation with over valuing measurables ahead of tough nasty solid football players.
***
DKnight007: Agreed. if Al Davis drafts a MLB, I hope it’s Brandon Spikes or Micah Johnson in Rounds 3-5
regardless of what I think, it’s obvious he isn’t that high on the Raiders priority list …
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Who’s list IS Brandson Spikes high on? I get that you don’t have to be the fastest guy on earth at that position, but 5.05????? He’s slower than a lot of O-Lineman. I don’t think all the college “football speed” in the world can overcome that in the NFL.
April 12th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
the Bears are in much better shape than the Raiders, despite Urlacher missing all of last season and Jay Cutler at the helm
Matt Forte & Anthony Adams are doing a fine job for Chicago. I don’t think they are missing Benson or Johnson as much as you suggest.
April 12th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Another problem Al Davis needs to get over someday regarding his infatuation with over valuing measurables ahead of tough nasty solid football players.
***
DKnight007: Agreed. if Al Davis drafts a MLB, I hope it’s Brandon Spikes or Micah Johnson in Rounds 3-5
regardless of what I think, it’s obvious he isn’t that high on the Raiders priority list …
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Who’s list IS Brandson Spikes high on? I get that you don’t have to be the fastest guy on earth at that position, but 5.05????? He’s slower than a lot of O-Lineman. I don’t think all the college “football speed” in the world can overcome that in the NFL.
^^^^^^^^
Straight line 40 times are OVERRATED and have been for quite sometime when it comes to evaluating a true FOOTBALL player.
Can Brandon Spikes play FOOTBALL, and does he have enough football speed in pads from a MLB/ILB position to fill the gaps and not be afraid to hit someone at the point of attack to disrupt a running play?
I will say yes to that.
April 12th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
I don’t think all the college “football speed” in the world can overcome that in the NFL.
***
Spikes is a football player, not a track star.
DKnight007 thinks he’s a player too, along with most other semi-pro bloggers on this site
April 12th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
I think Micah Johnson will be there in Round 4 and maybe Round 5.
His stock has taken a hit….but he hurt his knee in a bowl game.
Spikes would be a good 2nd round pick…he is tough and nasty and he can hit and fill the gaps!
April 12th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
the Bears are in much better shape than the Raiders, despite Urlacher missing all of last season and Jay Cutler at the helm
Matt Forte & Anthony Adams are doing a fine job for Chicago. I don’t think they are missing Benson or Johnson as much as you suggest.
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
You’re joking, right? Matt Forte?? Did you see that stiff play last year? He couldn’t carry Ced Benson’s jockstrap. If he’s doing such a “fine job”, why did they go out and give a big contract to Chester Taylor? Matt Forte sucks. At one time, the Bears had Thomas Jones and Ced Benson. They shipped them both for Matt Forte?? And people wonder why Lovie and Angelo are on the hot seat. LMFAO!
April 12th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
As I have said the last 3 years and I will say it again before this draft.
The old man Al and his “scouts” need to focus and target….TOUGH, NASTY, POWERFUL FOOTBALL PLAYERS who have LEADERSHIP skills and strong work ethics and high character and not worry about their damn straight line 40 time as much as they do!
April 12th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
DKnight007: what did you think of Micah Johnson prior to the injury?
I think he’s a starter quality MLB …
April 12th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
if i was insane AL i would go like this
1st Dan Williams DT OR BERRY DB
2nd Jared Veldheer OT
3rd Thaddeus Gibson OLB
4th Eric Olsen C
5th Jeff Owens DT
5th Ramon Harewood OG
7th Deji Karim RB
7th Scott Ravanesi P
April 12th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Can Brandon Spikes play FOOTBALL, and does he have enough football speed in pads from a MLB/ILB position to fill the gaps and not be afraid to hit someone at the point of attack to disrupt a running play?
I will say yes to that.
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
I won’t disagree with that. But Priest made one of his many great points a couple of weeks ago about Spikes. Opposing teams will be licking their chops at the chance to isolate him on some 4.6 tight end down the seam. There’s no way in hell he’ll be able to match up, not even being able to break 5 flat! The poor guy will get eaten alive. He’s playing in the wrong era.
April 12th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
the Jets & Cardinals also shipped Thomas Jones off at one time or another and they are winners.
Matt Forte had 1400 all purpose yards last year and 4 TD’s behind a terrible o-line. check his stats the year before. I think it’s safe to say “he doesn’t suck”
Chester Taylor was also teamed with Adrian Peterson in Minny. did he suck? most teams are using 2 back systems now buddy – including OAKLAND. Taylor was added more because of the play from thier Adrian Peterson & Garrett Wolfe. plus Kevin Jones couldn’t stay healthy.
this convo has went WAY off course. not sure why you started talking about Bears …
Anyways, have a great day Debo
April 12th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
the Jets & Cardinals also shipped Thomas Jones off at one time or another and they are winners.
Matt Forte had 1400 all purpose yards last year and 4 TD’s behind a terrible o-line. check his stats the year before. I think it’s safe to say “he doesn’t suck”
Chester Taylor was also teamed with Adrian Peterson in Minny. did he suck? most teams are using 2 back systems now buddy – including OAKLAND. Taylor was added more because of the play from thier Adrian Peterson & Garrett Wolfe. plus Kevin Jones couldn’t stay healthy.
this convo has went WAY off course. not sure why you started talking about Bears …
Anyways, have a great day Debo
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
When I say he sucks, I mean as a lead back, like Benson. I think he’d he a pretty good 3rd down back because of his receiving and blocking skills. He’ll get a chance to prove that now that Taylor is in town. Anyway, my main point is that players don’t suck just because the media rips on them. More often than not, guys/gals in the media are clueless as far as I’m concerned. Tank and Ced are perfect examples. Have a good day.
April 15th, 2010 at 1:00 am
[...] Draft prospect: Rolando McClain – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A … [...]
October 20th, 2011 at 11:10 am
football helmet|football helmets|football helmet decals|football helmet stickers|toddler football helmet|leather football helmet|youth football helmet|design your own footballhelmet|zenithfootballhelmet|revo speed football helmet|football helmet viso…
[...]Draft prospect: Rolando McClain – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of Bay Area News Group[...]…
October 24th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Anguilla Rentals…
[...]Draft prospect: Rolando McClain – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of Bay Area News Group[...]…
November 6th, 2011 at 9:05 am
black friday gopro hd…
[...]Draft prospect: Rolando McClain – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of Bay Area News Group[...]…