Raiders rejecting the renegades
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, April 12th, 2010 at 2:53 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Ten years ago the Raiders made Sebastian Janikowski the No. 17 pick of the first round of the NFL draft, and you wonder if they’d do it again.
It wasn’t simply that Janikowski was a place-kicker. Janikowski was a place-kicker with a rap sheet. He had a well-deserved reputation as a party boy at Florida State, complete with run-ins with law enforcement that included involvement with the date rap drug GHB which were yet to be sorted out in court.
Al Davis was undeterred. He selected Janikowski, who held his conference call in a bar from a golf course. After a few incidents that included DUI and a mysterious fall on a dance floor, Janikowski has stayed out of police reports for a few years now. Everyone lived happily ever after.
You still read about the Raiders being the natural destination for any player who has issues with law enforcement or behavioral problems. But as their disinterest in Santonio Holmes illustrates, the Raiders aren’t looking for renegades anymore.
Holmes is the kind of player the old-style Raiders would have pursued in a heartbeat. A young, speedy receiver at his peak who was a standout in the Super Bowl. A difference-maker who gets in trouble from time to time and is considered of questionable character.
The word is Holmes was shopped all over the league, and all the Jets had to give up was a fifth-round draft pick.
The Raiders, or anyone else, could have had Holmes with a better offer.
The closest thing to high-maintenance in their current receiving corps is Louis Murphy, a fourth-round pick who is an earnest but moody talent who sometimes lets his emotions get the better of him on the field, with no hint of trouble off it.
Second-year receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey is one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet, as is third-year receiver Chaz Schilens. Johnnie Lee Higgins is laid-back and easy-going, not one to utter a discouraging word if his performance slips or his playing time is down.
There has apparently been no thought given to bringing in Terrell Owens, one of the most productive problem players of this or any era.
It goes further than the position of wide receiver.
Setting aside JaMarcus Russell’s motivational issues, look at Raiders draft picks over the past few years and it’s apparent they not only want to look good coming off the bus, but they want to look like professionals as well.
Other than an incident with some teammates in a car involving Tyvon Branch and a pellet gun in college _ a transgression which would have made the 1970s Raiders laugh out loud _ the Raiders are more choirboy than bad boy.
Darren McFadden came with some baggage for a parking lot brawl at a bar (coming to the aid of his brother) but has been pleasant, friendly and trouble-free since he arrived. In no particular order, players such as Zach Miller, Mike Mitchell, Matt Shaughnessy, Trevor Scott, Mario Henderson, Thomas Howard and Kirk Morrison measured up on only on the height-weight-speed criteria but as players who aren’t going to be a problem in the locker room or outside of it.
UPDATE: The Raiders announced they have brought back linebacker Sam Williams, another problem-free locker room influence . . .
When and how did the Raiders change?
The guess here is it was a gradual thing that started with Randy Moss.
In trading for Moss, Davis had himself the NFL’s most explosive offensive player. Even as some of his coaches and former players wondered if Moss’ skills were slipping, Davis held fast to the belief that he was as good as ever.
Davis even said it after Moss was dealt for a fourth-round draft pick, which be became the forgettable John Bowie. Davis said he made the deal at the behest of his coaches. Sure enough, Davis was right _ Moss was immediately a dominant player.
Yet Moss wouldn’t play for the Raiders, and there was nothing anyone could say to get him to change his mind.
To a lesser extent, Jerry Porter was a solid receiver who let his personality get in the way of production as well.
If Moss was the start of a Raider revelation, the trade for DeAngelo Hall and the signing of Javon Walker were two more costly acquisitions that cost the Raiders some $20 million for nothing in return.
Hall and Walker were distractions at their previous stops _ Hall in Atlanta, Walker in Green Bay and Denver _ and not much changed in Oakland. Their character issues were secondary to their poor play, but on some level Davis may have come to believe or been sold on the idea that the two things are connected.
Since then, the Raiders have concentrated on retaining the players they already know, such as Nnamdi Asomugha, Shane Lechler and Janikowski. They’ve bought in veterans with impeccable credentials in terms of work ethic and dedication, most notably defensive end Richard Seymour, but the same idea applied to the departed Greg Ellis, Lorenzo Neal and Jeff Garcia.
Their lone outside acquisition this year, linebacker Kamerion Wimbley, showed up immediately to the offseason program and began punching a clock.
As prospective draftees are picked apart in the coming days, expect anyone with a character question to be immediately associated with Oakland, although the reality is it’s more punch-line than fact.
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April 12th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
The news never stops
April 12th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
2nd?
5 pm in Podunk. later gents!
April 12th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
First?
April 12th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Damn I’m third
April 12th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Great Read, but…
Sometimes you need that big brut mean/nasty MIDDLE LINEBACKER like the steelers have. Kirk, Thomas, and Trevor are too nice, almost too soft.
We’ll see what Wimbley can bring. I love T Williams at 8, but McClain would not be a bad way to go if Raiders can get Gaither from Ravens
April 12th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Great article Jerry. Too bad the Raiders still aren’t winning. Though, I’ve heard more NFL fans on other blogs around the country stating the current belief about the Raiders – they are just a descent QB away from the playoffs. Maybe other analysts and writers don’t see, but the fan is starting too. And by fan, I don’t mean Raiders fans, I mean NFL fans – guys who aren’t fans of the Raiders but do believe that all Oakland needs is a competent player under center to get to the top of a weak division.
April 12th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
The AFC West is easy to win. We just need a quarterback and a Right Tackle.
April 12th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
What the Raider’s need is competent management, more than anything else.
April 12th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Yeah, been sayin it for years. Oaklands not the last resort of NFL bad boys anymore. Teams like the Bungholes seemed to be taking up that mantle.
Dallas had a few malcontents with T.O., pac man and Tank there for a while…
April 12th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
agular9 Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Great Read, but…
Sometimes you need that big brut mean/nasty MIDDLE LINEBACKER like the steelers have. Kirk, Thomas, and Trevor are too nice, almost too soft.
We’ll see what Wimbley can bring. I love T Williams at 8, but McClain would not be a bad way to go if Raiders can get Gaither from Ravens
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Davis’s penchant for NOT taking LB’s this high, McClain’s guts and lack of coverage means no at 8th overall.
T. Williams? My pick from the get. “Fix the O line, save the Raiders”
Gaither is more of a guy Jerry was mentioning in this article that Oakland won’t go after unless he’s dirt cheap which he won’t be and if he was you’d have to wonder why…
April 12th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
No, Oakland isn’t the last resort of NFL badboys…more like NFL marshmallows.
When was the last fearsome Raider player that other teams hated to play against?
Besides that juggernaut duo Russell and Bey?
April 12th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Hence the prima donna that S.F. got would never have been drafted even if he was healthy. He probably wasn’t even on the Raiders board. Which is why I see McClain as the better choice.
April 12th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Maybe we have to many “nice” guys on this team. Need to get some MEAN mofo’s in here. Someone like, Jack.
http://www.bestsportsphotos.com/product.php?productid=30412
April 12th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
My pick from the get. “Fix the O line, save the Raiders”
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Wonderful.
Now, if you just post that 3 more times today, you’ll hit your daily quota of 10 exact same comment.
And just think..you’re only 182 away from 1000, saying that exact same thing.
April 12th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
following the eminent(???) Jerry Mc’s logic it will be none other than Tim Tebow at #8.
Donald Hollas tried praying in the huddle during one a fourth quarter drive but he just didn’t have the requisite “God-pull”. TT is tight. So be it.
April 12th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
# BadMoodGuy Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Hence the prima donna that S.F. got would never have been drafted even if he was healthy. He probably wasn’t even on the Raiders board. Which is why I see McClain as the better choice.
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You talking about Crab? Who smoked every Raider WR after sitting out much of the season?
That “prima donna’?? lol..you idiot.
April 12th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Hey Oakglen…are you just posting as Seymour today, or also as Debo?
April 12th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
With the Raiders anything is possible, but they were literally the ONLY team in the NFL not to go to Oklahoma’s pro-day.
If they pick Williams, that would be quite the stealth job.
April 12th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
the equation from “bad boys” to poor players is just a function vertical leaps off of a high cliff. 40 times are much improved at terminal velocity.
April 12th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
# KoolKell Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
What the Raider’s need is competent management, more than anything else.
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YIPPEE!!!
And the other simpleton is also right on track.
Mikey: “”duh…ya’s man…I’s keeps saying it cuz it’s true”
Everyone else: “But you sound retarded. Makes you come across as slow, stating the exact same thing, hundreds of times. Means thinking gives you a headache.”
Mikey: “21-78 is our record. Al has to go” (whatever the record is..don’t care)
Everyone else: “You and Nnamdi should pool your thoughts see if you can formulate an original one”??
Mikey: “uh…what? ahh..what? who? wait…what?”
April 12th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
# M Lonetree Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
the equation from “bad boys” to poor players is just a function vertical leaps off of a high cliff. 40 times are much improved at terminal velocity.
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lol…you try so hard.
Comical…yet pathetic.
April 12th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
let’s see…
JaFranchise can pray to fur and gold and diamonds
McF can pray to his pit bulls
Samson can pray to Moroni
and the Cable Guy can pray to Betty Rubble.
it is all saved! no character issues at all.
April 12th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Raiders signed Sam Williams. It’s on their transactions page.
April 12th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
1st Dan Williams DT or Berry S/DB
2nd Jared Veldheer OT
3rd Thaddeus Gibson OLB
4th Eric Olson C
5th Jeff Owens DT
5th Ramon Harewood OG
7th Deji Karim RB
7th Scott Ravanesi P
……………………IMO!!!
April 12th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
I am a huge Ramon Harewood fan.
Anybody 6′8 350 pounds that is a physics major can play on my team.
April 12th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
wow. Sam Williams.
perpetually good character plus mediocrity on the football field deserves a seventh chance. yay.
April 12th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Jerry Mac is wrong to assume Al won’t pick up guys with off the field issue because he didn’t want to trade for Holmes when holmes with miss the first 4 games of next year and when we have 2 up and coming receivers in Murphy and Schilens and another that has alot of money invested into him
April 12th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Go Morehouse Maroon Tigers!
April 12th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
agular9 Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Great Read, but…
Sometimes you need that big brut mean/nasty MIDDLE LINEBACKER like the steelers have. Kirk, Thomas, and Trevor are too nice, almost too soft.
We’ll see what Wimbley can bring. I love T Williams at 8, but McClain would not be a bad way to go if Raiders can get Gaither from Ravens
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Davis’s penchant for NOT taking LB’s this high, McClain’s guts and lack of coverage means no at 8th overall.
T. Williams? My pick from the get. “Fix the O line, save the Raiders”
Gaither is more of a guy Jerry was mentioning in this article that Oakland won’t go after unless he’s dirt cheap which he won’t be and if he was you’d have to wonder why…
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The ideal LB in this draft that would fit in nicely with the Raiders is SEAN WEATHERSPOON!
Tough, Nasty, Loud, plays with fire, can hit, tackle, cover, and blitz and call any of the LB spots and that kind of versatility makes him valuable.
Whoever gets him is getting a potentially good/great NFL football player!
April 12th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Just watched Senior Writer of The SportingNews get his azz schooled by Mike Mayock.
Mayock was visibly frazzled at Hayes attack style particularlly because what Hayes was saying was COMPLETELY INACCURATE!!!
He’d beat Mayock with praise and then taunt him. Among Hayes ridiculous claims was that DE JPP is lazy, has a questionable motor and took plays off. Mayock calmly, professionally inform him that anyone who watched the film up to and including ALL NFL teams KNOW Hayes is full of sha-tner.
Pretty much ufk Sporting “news” as a refernece for me!
What a tool, what a tool, what a tooly tool tool…
April 12th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
29. I like his fire. Smart too apparently. We need a vocal leader on D and O!
April 12th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
—”Raiders re-signed OLB Sam Williams. Williams, 30, appeared in all 16 games last year, making two spot starts and recording 19 tackles. He’ll focus on special teams if he makes the club”—
April 12th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
well, the change started with Kiffin, he wanted team players… and he set the tone, and that tone still in the locker room…
April 12th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
let’s see how this works… Tim Tebow is the new QB for the Raiders…
4th quarter… Broncos are up by 6… less than 2 minutes to go… we’re in the huddle…
Bush: damm double T… you better be dialing up Jesus and get something done…
TT: don’t panic… it’s all God’s plan…
Henderson: are you schitting me???
Gallery: don’t say schit… God don’t like it…
TT: he don’t mind…
Gallery: no schit???
TT: no schit…
Henderson: can I say “bitsch-slap”???
TT: only if you’re talking about those motherfukkers…
April 12th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
The ideal LB in this draft that would fit in nicely with the Raiders is SEAN WEATHERSPOON!
Tough, Nasty, Loud, plays with fire, can hit, tackle, cover, and blitz and call any of the LB spots and that kind of versatility makes him valuable.
Whoever gets him is getting a potentially good/great NFL football player!
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Kid is a Stand up guy…Considering that we only have
4 we need a guy like this in the fold…
April 12th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
You bring back Sam Williams you also bring back the spirit of Marquis as well as the kick-off coverage pigeon. All good.
April 12th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
too fukn funny florida pete..oh schit can i say that..lmao
April 12th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
yes Florida Pete, that is exactly how it goes. But there should be some pre-season intervention in the prayers of DHB because last year his hands resembled those of Easter Island’s moai.
April 12th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
M Lonetree Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
yes Florida Pete, that is exactly how it goes. But there should be some pre-season intervention in the prayers of DHB because last year his hands resembled those of Easter Island’s moai.
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God made those hands…
and he made those hands of stone…
can i get a Amen !!!
April 12th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
Florida Pete,
don’t the Micosukkee have some sort of curse they can put on the NFL and BSPN for kowtowing to the likes of Kraft and Jones and Snyder while allowing that Maria Sharapova can be installed as commissioner?
April 12th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Whew! Glad we got Sam Williams back. Our worries are over. OVER, I say…
April 12th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
909,
with Chris Cooper and Williams and Joseph and Wimbley and the new sleek JaFranchise…and the re-upping of Luke Lawton and the tendering of Hiram Eugene, this team will in no way be similar to past episodes…
April 12th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
M Lonetree Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
Florida Pete,
don’t the Micosukkee have some sort of curse they can put on the NFL and BSPN for kowtowing to the likes of Kraft and Jones and Snyder while allowing that Maria Sharapova can be installed as commissioner?
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don’t know much about Micosukkee…
but Maria Sharapova can sukkee-Mico anytime she wants…
what???
i can say that…
doesn’t mean anything…
really…
April 12th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
M Lonetree Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
909,
with Chris Cooper and Williams and Joseph and Wimbley and the new sleek JaFranchise…and the re-upping of Luke Lawton and the tendering of Hiram Eugene, this team will in no way be similar to past episodes…
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yeah… stay the course…
don’t change horses in the middle of the stream…
tippeconoe and tyler too…
we’re getting the band back together…
are you serious???
April 12th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
Florida Pete,
you can get an Amen to that.
April 12th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
If LaCanfora is right about the Seahawks making a play for Brandon Marshall on draft day they’ll likely make a move on a QB too.
I can see Pete Carroll taking Clausen at 6.
B. Marshall and Housh on the same field?! You’d almost HAVE to get a QB other than Seneca and Whitehurst would you?!
April 12th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
hallelujah!!!
April 12th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Nnamdi,
seneca wallace is already outta Seattle.
April 12th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
prepping for Timmy Tebow…
double T…
reading up all this schit a bunch of “witness” people left me…
did you know that God loves you???
and if you don’t love him back… he is gonna kick your ass right into HELL !!!
wow… talk about your tough love…
April 12th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Florida Pete Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
M Lonetree Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
yes Florida Pete, that is exactly how it goes. But there should be some pre-season intervention in the prayers of DHB because last year his hands resembled those of Easter Island’s moai.
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God made those hands…
and he made those hands of stone…
can i get a Amen !!!
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Actually guys, its WORSE than that.
Wasn’t his hands so much as it was his composure. Nearly sh-at himself on a few of those contested balls and his technique became non existent.
Hope he calms the ufk down starts snaggin everything thrown his way.
April 12th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
M Lonetree Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Nnamdi,
seneca wallace is already outta Seattle.
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Thats right, Holmgren and the Cleve…
April 12th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
It’s great that Sam is a stand up guy, but when you average 1.2 tackles a game, easy for guys to miss the message.
April 12th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Actually guys, its WORSE than that.
Wasn’t his hands so much as it was his composure. Nearly sh-at himself on a few of those contested balls and his technique became non existent.
Hope he calms the ufk down starts snaggin everything thrown his way.
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actually… it’s worse than that !!!
the TD he caught…
was a ball that went through his hands…
bounced off his chest…
and he snagged it on the rebound…
it scared the schit out of him…
April 12th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Nnamdi21,
I surmised eight months ago that the young man from Maryland should undergo hypnotherapy to rid himself of his ball-catching anxiety. Wouldn’t hurt.
“Hands of Moai” would be cool if you’re a boxer.
April 12th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Vegas,
Albert “$100 million” Haynesworth averaged 1.8 solo tackles and .25 sacks per game last year. Sam ain’t making Tommy Kelly money.
April 12th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
M Lonetree…
With the outstanding players on our roster, how can one not sleep well at night?
I, for one, have no troubles at all.
Although during the season, heavy consumption of alcohol, is usually required to reach slumber on Sundays……
April 12th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
is there any way we pass up on Berry if he’s still around???.i know we have bigger needs but SCHIT!!!
April 12th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
LMAO (909)..same way i cope!!
April 12th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
SoILRaider,
AD always has a pre-inclination to take DBs in the 1st.
April 12th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
I would let that little blondie Shara my Pova anytime…
April 12th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Hmm…if Okung, Suh or T Williams can’t be had at #8 then how about the best pass rushing RDE in the draft who beat Bulaga handedly when they played head to head….in Brandon Graham or Maurkice Pouncey?
April 12th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
I hope the story I read about DHB working his azz off this off season are true and I hope it helps…
April 12th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
DKnight007 Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Hmm…if Okung, Suh or T Williams can’t be had at #8 then how about the best pass rushing RDE in the draft who beat Bulaga handedly when they played head to head….in Brandon Graham or Maurkice Pouncey?
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How about Bulaga? Thyroid scare aside, he’s the best technician in the draft and was ahead of T Williams till analysts snapped out of their stupid Campbell delusion and got real.
T Williams is my choice and pretty much always has been but DE I don’t see and Pouncye’s way high, but like the article says Davis isn’t beyond reaching if he thinks its the guy.
I like Pouncey and think he’d make the O better with in a year.
April 12th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Pete,
Here is the link of the DHB catch (about 2:30 minutes in)
I actually thought he ran a great route and made a good catch. Not necessarily with his hands, but nevertheless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPEDeY06WPo&feature=related
April 12th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
I hope the story I read about DHB working his azz off this off season are true and I hope it helps…
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Where did you read that?
April 12th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
DHB Q&A from Raiders.com: LINK
I love this kid’s work ethic. He’s gonna be our next Cliff Branch. Louis and Murphy are gonna be great, too. You’ll know it from those two sooner, but DHB will eclipse both of them in stats one day.
I can’t wait for everyone to jump
April 12th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
I hope the story I read about DHB working his azz off this off season are true and I hope it helps…
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Bad news for ya…you can catch 1000 balls a day, but that means nothing until you’re on the field, in traffic, anticipating a hit.
And that’s when he turns to mush.
April 12th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
M Lonetree Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Vegas,
Albert “$100 million” Haynesworth averaged 1.8 solo tackles and .25 sacks per game last year. Sam ain’t making Tommy Kelly money.
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I guess $100 million just doesn’t get you what it used to.
April 12th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
As of March 18th the Oakland Raiders have excersised the Addition by Subtraction Model of success and I must say that it looks to be shaping up for a great draft.
Gone:
Justin Fargas (Overpaid), Gerard Warren (Overpaid), Greg Ellis (Old), Cornell Green (Played Out)
Added:
Yamon Figurs (Upgrade over Russell/Reese/Holland on Kick Returns), Kemerion Wimbley (Youth and Speed)
Kept:
Richard Seymour (Necesary), Khalif Barnes (Upgrade over Green), Sea-Bass (Necesary)
From looking at that list, I’d have to say that we will add a DT, to replace Warren, with a high pick in the draft and other than that it has been pretty quiet, but, actually compared to the last two seasons of FA signings and trades, that is a good thing.
I would have loved it IF we stepped up and signed Dunta Robinson, but other than that there hasn’t really been a FA or player that has been traded for that has made me think twice.
Good job Raiders, I’ll give you a B for the off-season, so far.
Poll
What Grade Would You Give The Raiders
April 12th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Darrius Heyward-Bey will be a fine Raider receiver as soon as he gets the ego-mind out of the equation. “Fear is the mind-killer” the Bene-Jesserit held as the definitive truth.
Ego does not always mean self-inflation, it can also mean the monkey jumping in futility inside of the non-existent four walls of the self.
April 12th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
all hail to Frank Herbert…
April 12th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
# Richochet Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Hey Oakglen…are you just posting as Seymour today, or also as Debo?
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Wacky are you going to post as mistabrOwn? or is mistabrOwn just the name of your dildo?
April 12th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Florida Pete,
yep.
April 12th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
I think someone has a leak in their stillsuit
April 12th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
DHB is going to emerge to the point where we will start calling him “The DHB”
April 12th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Plunketthead,
many here appear to have leaky suits, they simply believe that it is normal.
“The problem with normal is it only gets worse.”
- Bruce Cockburn
April 12th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
M Lonetree Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Florida Pete,
yep.
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have you read the Santaroga Barrier???
i haven’t thought of it in decades… but i still remember it…
think i read it in the late 60’s…
actually remember liking it better than Dune…
April 12th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Vegas,
fans are going to be buying #85 jerseys left and right when it pans out.
April 12th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
vegas raider Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
DHB is going to emerge to the point where we will start calling him “The DHB”
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or… more likely… “THAT DHB” !!!
April 12th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
okay, guys… right about now… (and for the previous 7 years)… being somewhat delusional kind of goes with being a Raiders fan…
but all this love for DHB is…
well…
DELUSIONAL !!!
April 12th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Florida Pete,
author? I don’t recall it.
Of the Dune books I only liked the first one. But I never forgot the exposed truth of fear.
April 12th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
I’d give the Raiders a B so far but would like to see what Wimbley does. The draft and final cuts could change that dramatically
April 12th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
We’ll be calling him Humuhumunukunukuapua’a-Bey!
April 12th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
DHB’s number went up by a factor of 7 (12 to 85)
I expect his production to do the same.
60 catches 900 yards 7 TD’s.
April 12th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
M Lonetree Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Florida Pete,
author? I don’t recall it.
Of the Dune books I only liked the first one. But I never forgot the exposed truth of fear.
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Santaroga Barrier… takes place in a Cali coastal town…
it’s a Frank Herbert book… it’s what got me to read Dune in the first place…
April 12th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
vegas raider Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
DHB’s number went up by a factor of 7 (12 to 85)
I expect his production to do the same.
60 catches 900 yards 7 TD’s.
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ah… now i understand the rationale…
it’s math !!! very scientific !!!
April 12th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
talk to you guys later…
Jack Bauer is about to save the United States of America…
again…
Jack texted me and said Chuck Norris asked if he could come along…
Jack said he told Chuck this is no work for rookies…
lmao… Jack cracks me up…
funny guy…
April 12th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
Free agent signings thus far in the off-season have been minimal other then Chicago’s. The extension of service years for players that would have been outright free agents due to the demise of the CBA plus the guaranteed TV revenues have put an unimposed cap on monies spent by ownership.
Getting rid of the absurd rookie salaries via a rookie cap would indeed allow vets and FAs to be signed more freely, but the owners realize that they are gonna get a windfall of “Monopoly” money in 2011 whether there is a season or not.
April 12th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
RAIDERS MAY HIRE A GM [MATT MILLEN]
April 12th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
fat kidd Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
RAIDERS MAY HIRE A GM [MATT MILLEN]
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are you saying that Matt Millen is saying that the Raiders may hire a GM???
because it can’t really be anything else…
can it???
April 12th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Why did we resign Sam Williams?
April 12th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
vegas raider Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
DHB is going to emerge to the point where we will start calling him “The DHB”
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DeadHandsBey
The DeadHandsBey
That DeadHandsBey
Same-O
April 12th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
al davis to take a medical leave his son and matt millen to run the team
April 12th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
# 408RAIDER Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Why did we resign Sam Williams?
Why does wacky-sheeit come here and no one cares? There are a lot of unanswered questions in life.
April 12th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
fat kidd Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
al davis to take a medical leave his son and matt millen to run the team
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i doubt it…
here’s why…
it is my understanding that Al Davis has it in his contract (that he gave himself)…
in the event of my death… communications are to be made from Al Davis to the Para-psychic of the General Partner via the Quija Board…
!
as you can see… there is no event that will deprive Big Al from running this team…
April 12th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
My friend speedkills21 often made this very cogent argument:
The renegades the Raiders brought in during the glory days were men who took their responsibilities to their teammates seriously, and were characters second. Guys like Art Powell who was too proud a black man for the other owners, Ted Hendricks who played as hard as he partied, and so on.
Renegades today, however, are me-first punks like Randy Moss and Chester McGlockton.
And it would seem that Al Davis has begun to realize that difference, too.
April 12th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
“The Raiders say so far, so good. That the Jackson/Russell connection is building early momentum and results.
A Raiders executive, requesting anonymity, said: “There has been such a lack of confidence in this team as a whole. The intangibles need to be rebuilt. It’s awful. The great teams go out there and know they will win; the good teams think they can, the average teams hope they can and the bottom ones hope they don’t lose too badly. I don’t think it’s bottom now for us. But we have to develop an attitude, a belief as a team and organization of winning thinking and preparation. That has to come from JaMarcus and from his position. It’s his job to lose. He is aware of that.”
April 12th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
The word “character” as applied to those 70’s Raiders couldn’t be used in the same sentence as a description of these current crop of spoiled brats with “character” issues. From Ben Davidson, to Warren Wells, to Lyle Alzado, and a whole host of “characters”, those 1970’s incomparable renegades, outlaws, and reclamations had a very different character from the idiots who, today, are considered renegades.
Those renegades of old were F O O T B A L L P L A Y E R S. First, and always, they were players. They hungered to play the game as modern day, bigger than life, Gladiators. Hangover or not; rap sheet or not; failures at other teams or not … These Guys PLAYED. I watched Super Bowl II as a little boy with tears in my eyes. I remember all of those guys and all of those games. I don’t remember their “character” or “renegade nature” to have anything to do with being paid too much, or complaining about playing time, or any other juvenile thing the current crop of character-less drains-on-society that are thought of as renegades.
If there were renegades of old out there, Al Davis would sell everything he owned to put them in a Raider helmet (which they would promptly sit on if they felt like it). And, they would win. Those guys Al won with don’t exist any more. That’s why Al struggles. He remembers the days when men were men. When football teams could be created out of thin air from renegades and rejects. Now, everyone from Pop Warner on up are hypertuned homogenized athletic robotons – at least compared to those days of renegades and warriors. Sadly, the business is now salary capped, free agented, computerized, and colorless … and each year you have a new team. You don’t get to create legacy war-machines like the real Raiders … or the Steelers.
April 12th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
RIP
There was also a lot of Chemistry too, wasn’t there?
April 12th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
RIP Dan Birdwell,
interesting observation about he difs between a “renegade” of yesteryear and the self-serving pricks of today.
the “non-conformists” of today are all about themselves and the money.
April 12th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Tatum31 Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
That’s why Al struggles. He remembers the days when men were men. When football teams could be created out of thin air from renegades and rejects. Now, everyone from Pop Warner on up are hypertuned homogenized athletic robotons – at least compared to those days of renegades and warriors. Sadly, the business is now salary capped, free agented, computerized, and colorless … and each year you have a new team. You don’t get to create legacy war-machines like the real Raiders … or the Steelers.
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There are still organizations out there in the modern era, that are winning!
April 12th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Fatt Kidd,
I wrote in January that Millen would be the GM, Dez Bryant would be the first pick and that Mariucci would be the coach. Harkening back to the glory years of the Detroit Lions, I’m still just waiting on Mariucci.
April 12th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
tatum31,
those men, those players that you mentioned also had to play for their paychecks. Keating and Davidson might ride their bikes through Baja for the winter but most players had to have secondary jobs off-season. No, not the best deal in life but it was real unlike the obscene wealth afforded to most pro athletes in any sport today.
April 12th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Once upon a time in the NFL, the last stop for players with troubled histories was the Oakland Raiders. Only on Al Davis’ roster could the league’s outcasts find refuge. Now it looks like the New York Jets want to establsh an East Coast haven for the same crowd.
By taking Santonio Holmes in a trade the Jets have added a third personality that’s as questionable as it is high-profile.
In March they picked up Antonio Cromartie, who has been dogged by the kind of paternity issues that come with fathering seven children with six different women. Cromartie had a contentious final season in San Diego, where he had a total of only five interceptions the last two seasons, after snaring 10 in 2007.
Last October the Jets traded with the Browns for Braylon Edwards, shortly after the receiver had been involved in a scuffle outside a night club. The vast majority of Cleveland fans breathed a big sigh of relief to be rid of an oft-troubled receiver and first-round pick whose numbers have been in steady decline.
Now the Jets add Holmes, who reportedly has a 4-game suspension coming for a substance violation, and who also had the night-club run with a woman that hastened his departure from Pittsburgh.
On a team that doesn’t throw much to begin with, do the Jets really want two guys with their histories fighting for a few passes while the New York sports media stands by, anxiously awaiting hearing their every complaint?
April 12th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
M Lonetree Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
No, not the best deal in life but it was real unlike the obscene wealth afforded to most pro athletes in any sport today.
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Who the hell else is to be afforded the wealth that today’s pro athletes generate, their corporate masters?
I think your problem is that you don’t like seeing young black men wealthy, imo.
April 12th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
WITH THE 8TH PICK OF THE 2010 NFL DRAFT THE RAIDERS SELECT Punter Zoltan Mesko MICHIGAN
April 12th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
KK,
when the school teachers and the factory workers of this world are paid on a scale as the corporate yacht-owners and actors and athletes then I would say, “fair enough”. ain’t gonna happen, I know that. obscenity is colorblind.
April 12th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Zoltan! Stryker! Slade!
now that’s football!
April 12th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
That’s right Tatum
April 12th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
What’s going on Raider Nation?
Anybody think there’s a chance Big Ben is looking at any kind of suspension after his meeting with the commish?
I know the DA declined to press charges, but two seasons in a row begin with Ben accussed of sexual assault.
The commisioner came into office and right away seemed to want to be seen as this no nonsense, kind of “new sherrif in town” with his code of personal conduct policy. Ought to be interesting
April 12th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
big ben beat the charges in georgia because the DA was a woman ,and he serviced her at first she said no but ben forced himself on her and she liked it!!!!
April 12th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
I read on PFT that Ben is an embarrassment in Pittsburgh.
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/36439159/ns/sports-nfl/
April 12th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Steelers to trade Ben Roethlisberger to Raiders for Jamarcus Russell, Nnamdi Asomugha, and Raiders’ 1st round pick in 2012 Leigh Steinberg, the agent for Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger, confirmed this morning in a conference call to the Pittsburgh media that the Steelers and Raiders are completing details of a blockbuster trade that will send the embattled Steelers quarterback to the Oakland Raiders in exchange for QB Jamarcus Russell, perennial All Pro cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, an…
Original Story: http://www.glorifythepast.com/forums/.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
KKKell,
You have time between not selling houses and blogging 18hrs a day to read about a Qb in Pittsburg?
lmao
April 12th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Kell,
I was listening to” Mike and Mike in the morning” on BSPN radio, the other day. They were in Pittsburgh on a book promotion tour,and Mike Greenberg, without going in to specifics, intimated that the word on the street in Pittsburgh, is that Big Ben is a creepy dude. They implied that even if the league doesn’t act, the Steelers might take some disciplinary action on their own. The Rooney family is supposed to be disgusted with his behavior.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
BrownStains
Yes, I read. One of the many differences between me and you, moron.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
maybe ben will go into sex rehab like tiger
April 12th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
What is the take on if Jason Campbell comes to Oakland?
April 12th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Buckeye
Yeah, I read today that Terry Bradshaw doesn’t like him, and there are supposedly others around the league who don’t either.
And the Rooneys are upset.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Mortensen said he thinks the NFL won’t suspend Ben, but the Steelers will enforce a one game suspension.
And as soon as the girl said she wanted to drop the charges, like she told the DA last week, the case was closed. You need her to take the stand in these type of cases, with no DNA evidence, and she clearly didn’t want to.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
they were waiting for jason campbell to sign his tender,he did that today so now he could be on the move
April 12th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
People are thinking Ben came to a settlement with the lady.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
People are thinking Ben came to a settlement with the lady.
………………………………………………. yeah he said he would do her again if she drops charges
April 12th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
He (Campbell) has a big arm, we have a good running game (better than last year), he is cheap, and even with all the crap he went through last year, terrible o line included, Jruss couldn’t hold a candle to his stats. Does any one know about his leadership?
April 12th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Rapelisburger paid off both the women.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
People are thinking Ben came to a settlement with the lady.
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If the case doesn’t go to a civil court, than you have your answer.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Supposedly Ben has pissed off corporate sponsors before as well.
Didn’t Moss do something like that here on a bus?
April 12th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Anybody watching this Tennessee vs. Pittsburgh playoff game on NFLN? The announcers were just raving about Big Albert Haynesworth.
Has Big Albert ever been in any kind of legal trouble? I can’t remember. Since the Raiders are making this movement to a roster full of Choirboys, and all.
I know he has a reputation for having a surly disposition. He was suspended by the NFL for stomping on Dallas center Andre Gurodes head. But, Hell that’s right out of the old Greg Townsend playbook. Sounds like a Raider to me.
Does anybody know if Albert has a rap sheet off the field?
April 12th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
People are thinking Ben came to a settlement with the lady.
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i think she won the lottery…
as people often do when assaulted by the rich and not so powerful…
April 12th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
vegas raider Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Supposedly Ben has pissed off corporate sponsors before as well.
Didn’t Moss do something like that here on a bus?
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nah… Moss’s style is to actually piss on them… literally…
April 12th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
Its good to see the liberals in here running to the defense of a woman who claims assault after she throws herself on a professional athlete in the mens room.
(Allegedly)
April 12th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
I tried to approach Moss one day coming out of Safeway, dude literally ran from me with a almost full shopping cart.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
BrownStains
Liberals actually like women.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Rapelisburger paid off both the women.
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The Tahoe chick is suing civilly I believe.
He may ultimately pay her off, but he hasn’t yet.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Goodnight fellas.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
BrownStains
Liberals actually like women.
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Not all women.
They hate Palin, and I doubt many will be voting for Meg Whitman.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
Later Buckeyeraider
April 12th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
This is from PFT.
“Our relationship is not any good,” Bradshaw said of Roethlisberger, in video available at ESPN.com. “When I told him to park the motorcycle, he got pissed. Then he had the accident, and since then he doesn’t like me, and I’m learning not to like him.”
Added Bradshaw, “He has got to realize who he is. He is an elite athlete in the National Football League. He’s got an image problem right now. Best thing to do is never put yourself in that position again.”
Bradshaw’s comments on his personal feelings regarding Roethlisberger aren’t unique. Several folks in the national media have shared with us details of unpleasant interactions with Roethlisberger. We realize that there are two sides to every story, but as we told someone regarding Browns coach Eric Mangini during a challenging 2009 season, his friends are silent and his enemies aren’t.
UPDATE: The full interview deserves a listen, including the part where Bradshaw acknowledges that the only reason women would flock to him and to Roethlisberger is because of their ability to throw a football. “I’m not that attractive,” Bradshaw said, “and neither is Ben.”
April 12th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Liberals respect the rights of all people. Not just white men.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
KKKell, who doesn’t run from you ?
LMFAO!!!!!
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# KoolKell Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
I tried to approach Moss one day coming out of Safeway, dude literally ran from me with a almost full shopping cart.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
What about the rights of the unborn?
April 12th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Should I send a copy to your office?
http://www.amazon.com/BIG-Black-Lie-Learned-Democrat/dp/061530222X
April 12th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
KKKell, as usual you are dead wrong. Liberals demonize everybody that doesn’t agree with them. Which is about 75% of the Country. They dont care if you are man or woman they are intolerable of a different point of view (which is the majority).
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# KoolKell Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Liberals respect the rights of all people. Not just white men.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
Sweep The Leg. Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
What about the rights of the unborn?
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I believe in a woman’s right to choose. But, isn’t it funny how ant-Govt conservative people always want the govt in peoples bedrooms and sex lives, no?
April 12th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
What about gun owners?
Or Christians?
Or conservative talk shows?
Or our soldiers?
Or Tea Party members?
April 12th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
You can ad Ann Coulter to that list. Michelle Bachman, the list goes on & on. To be a Liberal you have to be a hypocrite & outright liar.
See KKKell, Oakglen, DK, Nnamdi, 4eva…
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# vegas raider Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
BrownStains
Liberals actually like women.
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Not all women.
They hate Palin, and I doubt many will be voting for Meg Whitman.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
How about this one instead, Vegas
http://www.amazon.com/Searching-Whitopia-Improbable-Journey-America/dp/1401322689
April 12th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Well actually I hate Ann Coutler and Michelle Malkin as well.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
It’s funny how leftists claim to want “equality” and “diversity” but only from their viewpoint.
Muslims = good
Christians = bad
Military = oppressive
Terrorist = freedomfighters
Etc..
April 12th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
I actually served in the military, unlike a lot of the all hat no cattle conservatives.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
I said Michelle Bachman not Malkin…forgot about Malkin, thanks!
April 12th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
How about this one instead, Vegas
http://www.amazon.com/Searching-Whitopia-Improbable-Journey-America/dp/1401322689
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Interesting, I would probably enjoy reading that.
But seriously, sending a black to Idaho to interview drunken bar patrons would probably be about the same as sending me into Compton to talk to guys at the bar.
April 12th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
KKKell, you’re the perfect Liberal, you are a hypocrite, a liar, spineless, ignorant, and lazy!
they should put your ugly mug on a poster…
April 12th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Here’s your all-American Conservative. Who exploit working men, disregard safety and kill people. Ahhh yeah.
http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/files/2009/09/rally12_i090907204958.jpg
April 12th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
BrownStain
You a fearful, hateful, buffoon.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
KKKell, everything you’ve said has been refuted & smashed, and then you resort to posting links nobody is reading. You spend 18-20 hours a day on your fat lazy ass posting idiotic propaganda like a moron.
P.O.S
April 12th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
thats mista brownstain
April 12th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Fearful?
lmao
April 12th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Mista Brownstains
*You are a fearful, hateful, buffoon.
*Nobody has refuted anything, I’ve said.
*I’m not fat.
* I’m not here 18-20hrs per day.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Why are they always calling conservatives hateful?
Answer- If you tell a lie long enough people will think it is true.
It’s more evil to create a system where people (mostly blacks and hispanics) becomes slaves to the government through financial dependency.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
KK,
I’m coming to the Bay in September, going to go to a Raiders game. Don’t know when but the wheels are in motion.
I should be staying with a buddy in Berkely. Name a place near a Bart station and I will buy some drinks.
I almost insist on it.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Sweep the Leg
Because all conservatives do is hate on other people, particularly people of color.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
KKKell, you went 4 for 4. Keep up the bad work!
Lie —–> *You are a fearful, hateful, buffoon.
Lie —–> *Nobody has refuted anything, I’ve said.
Lie——> *I’m not fat.
Lie —–> * I’m not here 18-20hrs per day.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Let me know come September, Vegas.
I don’t think you’re a bad guy. You are around too many different people in Vegas to be too out of touch.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
How do I hate KK?
I think what I just wrote is the opposite of hate.
Instead of giving out handouts and keeping someone dependent on you, teach/encourage them to take care of themselves.
You know, give a fish or teach a man to fish.
Seriously, is that hateful or helpful?
April 12th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
conservatives dont lie ,they were right about the death panels
April 12th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Actually conservatives want Govt to get out of the way and let everybody succeed. But you being a lifelong moron & Dem you throw racism & class warfare at everybody & everything.
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# KoolKell Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Sweep the Leg
Because all conservatives do is hate on other people, particularly people of color.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
But Brownstains? his head is bursting with hate.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
KK,
Just know I like to argue. If you were a hardcore conservative, I would be taking up the other side.
What fun is discussing politics if you aren’t debating?
April 12th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Look, I know you don’t like our viewpoint, but it’s just a philosophy.
To throw the race card out doesn’t help your case.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Sweep The Leg. Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
How do I hate KK?
I think what I just wrote is the opposite of hate.
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Those assumptions about financial dependency of black & brown people is an ignorant hateful assumption on your part.
The sad thing is, and I understand it, is that stupid people don’t recognize they are stupid.
You don’t know what you don’t know.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
KKKell, So living in Vegas means you are a good guy now? Nothing but “good” people in Vegas huh KKKell?
LMAO @ the reasoning from this buffoon! And Vegas is going to sit next to this meathead in a bar!
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# KoolKell Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Let me know come September, Vegas.
I don’t think you’re a bad guy. You are around too many different people in Vegas to be too out of touch.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Actually conservatives want Govt to get out of the way and let everybody succeed. ……………………………………….i thought they want govt. out of the way so they can change regulations to steal from the middle class
April 12th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Funny thing is KKKell sweep didnt mention skin color, you did! Whats your IQ KKKell ?
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# KoolKell Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Those assumptions about financial dependency of black & brown people is an ignorant hateful assumption on your part.
The sad thing is, and I understand it, is that stupid people don’t recognize they are stupid.
You don’t know what you don’t know.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Raiders on the clock it says for the next Path to the Draft on NFLN.
Is that a re-run or old material?
April 12th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
The American White Man is losing his “special privileges” in America, and is fearful and angry as a result.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
sarah palin=is that stupid people don’t recognize they are stupid.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Actually conservatives want Govt to get out of the way and let everybody succeed.
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Again one of the most ignorant laughable statements EVER put into cyberspace. So when the entire economy contracted badly because the government got out of the way, just like in the turn of the 20th century and 1930’s, how many conservatives refused to go to the state unemployment office and collect their UEC? Let me answer: none. So they are ignorant hypocrites.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
KKell, all you do is spew racist BS. The hell is wrong with you ?
April 12th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
# fat kidd Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
sarah palin=is that stupid people don’t recognize they are stupid.
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So true.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
BrownStains
Whaddya mean? Only Al Sharpton is racist.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
I don’t know anybody, even most conservatives, that would call Sarah Palin “smart”.
She has charisma and did a good job running her state. And she is a MILF (actually a GILF).
April 12th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Of course Unemployment compensation was another of the liberal protections put in to protect people from wealthy corporations and industrialists. Just imagine what the streets of America would be like right now if no one had any UEC. There would be families and people begging everywhere. Kind of like the 1930’s.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Hi Oakglen, Seymour, Debo, BsDetector! You couldn’t wait to hit me up on Jerrys blog, as usual.
The economy goes in cycles, it contracts and expands naturally over time like most things do. Govt getting out of the way sure as HELL didnt cause jobs to disappear you ingrate!
EPA regulations, high corporate taxes, and regulation have caused jobs to leave. I dont care who you want to blame that on but thats the reason.
I cant continue to educate you for free, start sending me a check or STFU meathead.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
vegas raider.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
I don’t know anybody, even most conservatives, that would call Sarah Palin “smart”.
She has charisma = a nice pair of tits
April 12th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Jon Stewart had an awesome clip of Palin complaining about Obama’s nuclear policy and longing for the days of Reagan…only to have Stewart runs clips of Reagan preaching for the exact same nuclear strategy that BO just accomplished.
I feel sorry for our country. I long for the days of a strong leadership at the GOP that I can respect. We are starting to see some that trying to take shape. Guys like Sen Coburn who confronted lies at his recent townhall and David Frum speaking frankly about how fox is using the GOP.
For our country to function property, we need a strong GOP and a strong Dem to work together. We can disagree on policies without making it personal.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
OakglenDeboSeymourBsDetector, how many personalities do you have ?
I’am the highlight of your sorry day aren’t I? You cant wait to come in here and make a moronic statement after my post…
Ur my fav turd Oakglen I would never sh!t you..
April 12th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Some of you watch and listen to that conservative horsesh** on TV and Radio. Are Hannity and Beck and Limbaugh telling their millions of unemployed listeners to boycott their UEC payments and pick themselves up by the bootstraps because UEC is a liberal government run program?
April 12th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
The economy goes in cycles, it contracts and expands naturally over time like most things do.
Just like Jamarcus…. and Kirstie Alley.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
BrownStains
You’re waaay to stupid to discuss the economy.
Btw did the Dow close over 11,000 again?
April 12th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Sure mistabrOwn the dildo. This economic contraction was just one of the cycles. Sure. Then why is it that almost all the great economic contractions are on the conservatives watch? Couldn’t have anything to do with their ignorant dumb policies from the 1400’s could it?
April 12th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Just curious,
what are you guys’ education level? I’ve been hearing alot of this complain about “elitist” educated folks here in the South on talk radio. wondering how you guys feel about that.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Dow Jones Industrial Average 11,005.97
Data as of 4:30pm ET +8.62 / +0.08%
Today’s Change
April 12th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
The economy goes in cycles, it contracts and expands naturally over time like most things do.
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Herbert Hoover implemented his conservative policies. The economy completely collapsed. You ever hear of Herbert Hoover mistabrOwn? He was a conservative. How’s about George Bush? Ever hear of him?
April 12th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
No this economic contraction has been intentionally dealt by Barback 0bama so he can “transform” america. Like his cheif of staff said…
“No crisis, should go unwasted”
April 12th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
If Limbaugh, Hannity, or any of those a holes were in the real world and unemployed, they’d take unemployment in a heartbeat. I’ve lost count of how many republicans I know who were critical of a government assistance program, then wound up taking it. It’s only bad when others do it, particularly people poorer and darker than them. When they do it, or when anyone with more than them does it, they’re cool with it, and they have the perfect sob story to explain their use of government assistance.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
AIG,
Finance major and statistics minor from the prestiguous University of Chico.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
# aig Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Just curious,
what are you guys’ education level? I’ve been hearing alot of this complain about “elitist” educated folks here in the South on talk radio. wondering how you guys feel about that.
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What do you mean? Listeners are complaining about “elitist” educated people in the South or in the country in general?
April 12th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
Ok Debo, so Govt getting out of the way made the economy go south?
LMFAO!!!!
You and KKKell should put your heads together and at least form 1/2 of a human brain.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
The Dow is at about the same level as when BO took office.
I think it has gone up because things have leveled off and aren’t really getting much worse (cyclical??) and things were WAY WAY overstated as to how bad things were and how much the market sold-off.
No reason for the market to be down the 40% it was, except for fear. What did FDR say? “The only thing to fear is fear itself”.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
No this economic contraction has been intentionally dealt by Barback 0bama so he can “transform” america.
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So even tho the ecomony started to tank 17 months before he took office and he wasn’t even a blip on the radar, Obama was smart enough to tank the American economy and then engineer a campaign to get in office? Whoah. Dude is Superman. He should be president. Or you are a complete moron. Probably the latter.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
PHD in cool-ology.
Whatsamata U, 1998
April 12th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
I graduated from the University of Mars. With Otis Sistrunk.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
MB, as I’ve said before, if Obama is a one term president, that’s cool with me. He’s already accomplished enough in my view. Winning in the first place, a black man with a name remarkably similar to some of the names of people we’ve been at war with in recent years, only goes to show how far we’ve made it in America when it comes to diversity, and the kind of message Americans will give to the right if they try to start an unjust war and let wall street rob us blind. The only way Obama loses is if a Republican runs on an anti Wall Street platform. That means Bush Republicanism is dead. That means Palin doesn’t have a chance. So we’ll see who that Republican nomination is in a couple of years. I’m telling you, if they’re remotely like Bush, Obama won’t even have to campaign. It’ll be the easiest re election in American history.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
SeyGlen, if you cant see Barback is killing the economy since he took office I dont know what to tell you. Unemployment is up where he wants it to be. He wants people to be dependent on Govt. DUH!
Do you have eyes or ears ?
April 12th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
Ok Debo, so Govt getting out of the way made the economy go south?
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No mista dildo, the economy just wanted to tank on it’s own. People WANTED to lose their jobs, homes, careers and savings. Everyone knows that.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Dow Jones up 21% since Obama took office – Political Forum
Dow Jones 1/20/09
7949.09
April 12th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
SeyGlen, if you cant see Barback is killing the economy since he took office I dont know what to tell you.
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All economic indicators are up. What planet do you live on?
April 12th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
I honestly don’t see any Republican beating Obama. Ron Paul would have a chance if he had a little more of a track record in diversity. He’s too white. Yes, Chris Rock joked about it. But it’s amazing that we’ve made it to a point where being too white can hurt a presidential candidate. After 2008, it’s a political factor that’s here to stay.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
MR, accomplishing nothing is ok with you? Oh wait he did make unemployment go up!
Feel free to raise your standards…
April 12th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Why people try to blame one side over the other for the collapse is laughable.
They are all in it together. Bush’s “tax cuts for the rich”, would have never passed if not for 8 Dems voting for it (including Feinstein).
Bush and Paulsen crooked TARP nonsense, overwhelmingly supported by all in the Senate and Congress. The war in Iraq passed like 425-2.
And BO’s stimulus fiasco wouldn’t have passed if not for a couple of Repubs in the senate crossing party lines.
All a shame.
Good night.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Seymour
These conservative southerners are complaining about how the elitists aka folks on the left who are harvard educated or ivy league educated are ruining our country. One of the Right talking points to the common man is to demonize the left as a bunch of educated elitists. I was curious to how people feel about that.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
I asked MB months ago to name one individual Republican hopeful who he thinks could be Obama. Did you ever answer that, MB? You just said “all of them”. I asked you to name just one, and maybe even give an example of what kind of platform he or she will use, what swing states they’ll target, etc. As far as I know, you’ve never answered.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
I’ll let you know when the Primary is over.
Deal with it.
lol
April 12th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Nice observation by Jerry, but I don’t buy into the nice guy theory.
Pro football is a viscious game that requires complete focus and commitment. You have to a little bit off your noodle to run full speed at someone who is running full speed at you. Then smash your heads together, knowing that it could result in a severe injury or death.
Charles Haley was a notorious manic depressive who was nuts in the locker room and a demon on the field. It worked for him, so it wasn’t made a public affair.
Having a line-up full of choir boys may look good on paper, but having a few unstable elements may make for better chemistry. As long as they expend their energy on the field and not off of it.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Vegas Raider Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
The Dow is at about the same level as when BO took office.
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C’mon Vegas, quit lying, you know better than that.
The Dow is up 3,000 on Obama’s watch.
April 12th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
In your world the Debt = Economic indicator?
LOL
Debo, you been saying indicators are up for the last year yet Barback still has the economy on its knee’s right where he wants it!
April 12th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
got it. That’s the problem. MistabrOwn dildo is a perfect example of how rich corporate interests trick voters into thinking liberal societal policies have ruined the country where in fact it is the exact opposite. As I always say, what have the conservatives EVER accomplished? Other than wars and recessions?
April 12th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Ugh!
You all need to take some cool-ology classes.
Draft McFadden
Don’t bother responding
I hate you
Taste the chocolate rain
April 12th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
SeyGlenDebo, have you ever been checked by a professional physician ?
April 12th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
1. The Clinton tax increase helped balance the budget. It was the right thing to do. When Warren Buffet confirms that his tax rate is lower than his secretary, then we know something is wrong.
2. The Iraq war should have nver happened. The Dems were too chickenshytt to vote against it. But at the end of the day, it was Bush who wanted it and no one was strong enough to oppose him without being labeled “unpatriotic”.
3. The Bush taxcut was stupid. Tell me one instance where you start a war and gives tax cut at the same time.
4. The wallstreet journal today estimated that the Bailouts will end up costing tax payers 89 billion. I think that is cheap compared to the alternative.
We spent over 3 trillions in Iraq when you think of the big picture.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
In your world the Debt = Economic indicator?
LOL
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Again one of the most ignorant statements ever put into cyberspace. Reagan, then Bush, created the greatest debt in the countries history. Clinton reversed that, and then Bush/Cheney sent us on an even worse debt road. But if you understand how debt kills America and benefits the wealthy conservative bond holders you would not bring that up. Jst notice how all the Republican leadership continually does that. Check the governor of California. Another of the failed conservative policies that doom the country.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
The nation’s economy has nearly 79,000 fewer private-sector jobs than when President George W. Bush took office.
During the last full month before Bush took office in January 2001, the unemployment rate was 3.9 percent. In March 2005, the official U.S. unemployment rate was 5.2 percent—representing 7.7 million unemployed workers. The manufacturing sector has lost nearly 3 million manufacturing jobs since January 2001.
What’s more, the 7.7 million officially unemployed represents only about 57 percent of all U.S. workers—approximately 13.6 million, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics—who are either unemployed, underemployed in part-time jobs out of economic necessity or who have become so discouraged that they have given up looking for work.
After the official end of the last recession in March 1991, the nation embarked on nine straight years of solid job growth. But although this recession officially ended in November 2001, jobs are coming back only slowly, economists say, because companies are sending well-paying manufacturing—and now white-collar—jobs to countries with few, if any, protections for workers and the environment. And these jobs probably aren’t coming back anytime soon unless the Bush administration, Big Business and their congressional allies reform the trade and tax policies that encourage employers to send jobs offshore.
The Bush record since January 2001.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Sarah Palin- Way too much like Bush. Obama will kill her on the economic platform. Will bait her left and right into saying too many pro wall street things. Despite her folksy act, Obama will make her look more elitist than Leona Helmsley on economic issues.
Mitt Romney – too white, too conservative. Might get the lowest female vote in history.
Liz Cheney- too extreme. Too angry. That kind of anger only speaks to the tea party crowd. Nobody else wants it in the white house.
Rudy Guillaini – not a bad candidate, if he could make it. Pro choice. Problem is, how does he pass the republican primaries? He didn’t make it through the florida primaries in ‘08…let alone deep Dixie. Rudy Guilani not being able to get past the starting gate is more evidence of the Republcan party’s archaic ways haunting them.
Ron Paul- as stated above, too white. Bush had to get a chunk of the Latino vote in Florida and North Carolina. Could Ron Paul get it? Over Obama? Not a chance.
John McCain? The ol maverick? Does he have another run in him? Bet you republicans would be dumb enough to nominate him again.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
WOW,
Look at MR, a professional political analyst!
LMFAO
April 12th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
I would continue to discuss this but you need at least a 5th grade education mistabrOwn dildo. Just keep repeatin’ how them damn liberals are taking away our “freedomisms”!
April 12th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Syemour,
The reason I brought up the term “elitists” is because of the following.
1. After the vn war, the communist took over and it was a campaign against educated folks…aka elitists..and they forced them all to go work in the mountains.
2. The Chinese communist under the Red Rev did the same thing.
3. the Khmer Rouge killed a few million “educated elitists” as well.
So when I hear these talking “elitists” talking points, it’s all the same to me…in other words, a bunch of uneducated and ill informed brainwash folks that use this reasoning to justify their insecurities. Then when they come to power, they destroy everything.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
SeyGlen, I never mentioned freedoms being taken. Whats rattling around in that skull of yours 2 empty beer cans ?
Whats with the “dildo” reference in your keester sore or something ?
April 12th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Rudy Guillaini – not a bad candidate, if he could make it. Pro choice. Problem is, how does he pass the republican primaries?
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Guiliani would be a good candidate but Jeffrey Dahmer has fewer skeletons in his closet.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
SeyGlenDebo, taking issue with MR’s analysis…lol
Its like Dumb & Dumber allover again..
April 12th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Seems to me both parties are seeking to enslave the populace. Dems will bring us under the control of government, Repubs will bring us under the control of corporations.
Either way, we are all screwed.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
I think Mitt will be the ticket with either Fred Thompson or Bobby Jindal as VP.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
MB, Obama’s going to win in ‘12. You know he is. That’s why you can’t name one single Republican who you think can beat him.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
What up Nation?
Wow, check out this mock:
http://tfdssports.com/2010-articles/april/2010-mock-predictions-of-entire-raider-2010-draft.html
If this were to happen I would seriously need Al’s diaper.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
one republican that would give obama a run for his money ,former pa governor and homeland security chief tom ridge his downfall is he is too honest
April 12th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Aig
The people who want to rob the Treasury don’t like educated people.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Vegas, as an Obama support, I hope you’re right. The Democrats can save a ton of campaign money if that’s the ticket Obama faces in ‘12, too.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
MR, are you Lloyd or do you let SeyGlen wear that hat ?
April 12th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
MB, you haven’t demonstrated in any way that you know what you’re talking about when it comes to politics.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Damn, you fellas talking politics. I’m out. Oh by the way. Down here in the N.O., we view Bobby Jindal the same as most of you view Obama.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
MB’s politics are based on wishful thinking.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
Thats weird Jindal isnt even a marxist or socialist, what did he do ?
April 12th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
I’m a realist.
I am taking a serious look at the states that are in play, which candidates will do well in them.
Since MB either isn’t smart enough to have that discussion, or is avoiding it because there’s too many things he doesn’t want to hear, he resorts to insults.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
Even if Jindal were a good candidate, his skin color would ruin him in the republican primaries. Too many racist southerners wouldn’t vote for him. Of course, MB would blame the negative media for this.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
Mistabrown,
dude, wake up. Jindhal is an Indian American. He aint white. jeez. Seriously does he look like the current govt of Miss, Barbour? Can you see Jindal protect the confederacy legacy?
April 12th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
BO is going to have a tougher time than people think if he doesn’t turn these poll numbers around.
Life as the incumbent is much tougher than when you are the upstart, promising candidate.
http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx
April 12th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
MR, you are just like KKKell you cant resist injecting skin color into everything. Keep racism alive is that your goal or am I missing something ?
April 12th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
i would like to see sarah palin run for president,because tina fey cracks me up..
April 12th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Watching path to draft and I think this is the first year I seriously disagree with Mayock.
for example, his defense of JPP vs Morgan/Graham was rediculous. He even admits JPP plays too high.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Doesn’t mean anything, Vegas. Obama isn’t running against a poll. He’s going to be running against a republican candidate. They have to be a better candidate than him. They have to do better than him in the swing states he did well in, which was all of them. The candidates that people have in mind to beat him are going to have a tougher time than their supporters think. Dems may lose the congress, but Obama is going to be a two term president.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
MB, the reason why you don’t want race to be brought up is because you’re not smart enough to have the discussion.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
At this time in Reagan’s first term, his approval rating was 45% and BO is at 50%. 2012 is an eternity in politics. Just 2 months ago it was thought that BO was done for. .
April 12th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Dems may lose the congress, but Obama is going to be a two term president.
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That would be my perfect scenario.
I know BO has it in him, it is just too easy right now with the majority he has.
In fact, if the Repubs smash on the elections this year, I may vote for BO just so there isn’t a huge one-sided capitol hill like there is right now, and like there was in 2001-04.
Bill had a Repub house and senate, and it came out spades.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
tina fey did a sarah palin as the host of wheel of fortune where she misspells everything funny!!!!!!!!!!
April 12th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
Obama’s current poll numbers really aren’t a problem at all regarding his reelection campaign in two years. More of a threat to democrats in congress. Congressional districts are different than the electoral college. The only polls that really give indications of who will win a presidential elections is head to head polls. Approval rating? Obama’s could drop another 10 points and I wouldn’t be worried.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
I’d love to have the GOP in control of Congress but a GOP that wants to work toward solving problems rather than the fear mongering group right now. You guys watch. Coburn is going to be a very good GOP leader at some point.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
MB’s politics are based on wishful thinking.
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And they are a cross between Charlemagne and Herod I.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
A lot of the Democrats in congress are a conservative democrats, anyway. Howard Dean’s 50 state plan either had the wrong idea, or it got hijacked by more conservative democrats in the party’s think tank. The real revolution started with Obama. Getting conservative democrats into congress only looked good on election day. Once it came down to needing their votes, they bailed. Good riddance.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
george w bush did so much damage you will not see a republican president in your lifetime
April 12th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
I agree, Fat Kidd. At least not until the economy gets good again. As long as the economy’s bad, voters in swing states, who decide presidential elections, will not vote republican. :I think that’s the only reason Bush beat Gore in ‘00 (well, sort of beat him…), is because the economy was so good people thought we could be ok with a republican again.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
Tom Cable Coach of the Year 2010!!!!
April 12th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Bay Bridge World Series 2010!!!
April 12th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
My guess is MB is just not well informed with politics that’s all.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Tom Cable isn’t even a coach.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Gradkowski 5th in MVP votes in 2010!!!!
April 12th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Yes very possible Vegas. My A’s are finally showing promise. Anyone ever read the book “MoneyBall”?
April 12th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
I haven’t seen any indication that MB’s informed, AIG. Not one iota. Just how much he hates Obama, and insults.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Michael Huff Pro Bowler in 2010!!!
April 12th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
Bush 1200 yards on the ground!
April 12th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Dmac 1000 all purpose yards!
April 12th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
MB’s politics are based on wishful thinking.
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And they are a cross between Charlemagne and Herod I.
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Wow.
That’s quite the reference for a football blog.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
aig Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Yes very possible Vegas. My A’s are finally showing promise. Anyone ever read the book “MoneyBall”?
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Hell yes!!! Great read.
This year, the new fancy fielding fielding statistic (I believe PER it’s called) is the new OBP. Moneyball lives on!!!
The A’s will trade for Carlos Lee in a few months and win the division. You heard it here first.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
the phillies will win the world series
April 12th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
I haven’t seen any indication that MB’s informed, AIG. Not one iota. Just how much he hates Obama, and insults.
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mistabrOwn dildo is informed. It’s just once it was proven the world is actually round, all his beliefs go out the window.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
The bad thing about moneyball is that only Billy Bean has made it work. Otherwise it’s been the big market teams that have had all the success.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
It’s all about pitching man. The Giants and A’s are loaded at that position this year. The A’s have a good bullpen too. It has been so long since I last followed the A’s. I hated when they broke up Hudson, Zito and the other big name.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Al Davis…NFL executive of the year in 2010!!!
April 12th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
OK…just kidding on that one.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
I think when the Red Sox won their first World Series a few years ago they used the money ball method as well. Their GM was one of those young harvard educated guys.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
i heard a rumor that carmen policy is trying to buy out al davis
April 12th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
A’s have lots of good young arms, and need to get rid of one to get a bat.
When your cleanup hitter is Kevin Kouzmanoff, and your 3rd slot is Sweeney, that just isn’t going to hold up.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
AIG,
Moneyball is not the same as sabermaterics. That’s what the Red Sox use, as created by Bill James who works for the team.
Moneyball is all about finding the most undervalued statistic for your money. During Moneyball it was on base percentage.
This year it is fielding efficiency. Hence the Kouzmanoff and Coco Crisp signings. Both are great fielders.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
If you guys like Michael Lewis and “Moneyball” get “The Blind Side.” It really is very very good.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
prob right Vegas.
Al Davis hates fcking Carmen Policy. They are enemies. He would never sell to Carmen.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
Funny how the second the A’s ditched Jack “Bust”, they started winning. I guess league records in strikeouts out of the four hole DOES make a difference. Funny. Who’d a thunk it?
April 12th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Read that too. All of his books are great. You know the sad thing is I saw Lewis on 60 mins for his new book (Big Short) and it was depressing.
I had a small lending company in subprime. I didnt know much about the stock market and had I confided in my financial advisor friend about the lunacy of subprime we could have been a gazillionaires.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Have Blind Side, haven’t read it yet.
Also read Liar’s Poker (I was a stock broker for 5b years)
April 12th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
Liar’s poker is on my list to read. Was it good? I heard it was. YOU HAVE TO READ BLINDSIDE.
April 12th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
Vegas, Blind Side is REALLY good. Highly recommended. I like all of Lewis’ stuff. Even from when he was a columnist for Bloomberg, I always read him.
April 12th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
How can Mayock say that Eric Berry is not instinctive or good tackler? He rates Thomas higher than Berry. Berry carried the Vols the last 2 years.
April 12th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Are the Raiders for sale?
Al Davis selling the Oakland Raiders? I just can’t see it, but apparently there’s all kinds of talk about possible buyers. According to this story, Eddie DeBartolo and Carmen Policy, Brent Jones and Steve Young are possible suitors
April 12th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
I tried to approach Moss one day coming out of Safeway, dude literally ran from me with a almost full shopping cart.
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I told you…don’t bring your wife with you.
She’s scary…look what happened when Moss saw her….
April 12th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
Dan Williams – Majored in legal studies and has aspirations to be a lawyer after his football career is over.
i think this is a safe pick for us. He produced on the field and seem to be an intelligent guy as well.
April 12th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
Wow, you guys have gone full CNN on this site. The passion for politics is amazing here. Every conversation is steered towards the useless subjects of politics etc…
Anyway, you can’t draft Rolando McClain without a plan to also boost the DTs with a starting caliber Tackle that can take on blockers.
If the Raiders go big with McClain and go “Blue Light Special” with the NT….McClain will bust!
April 12th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
Did you guys know Kell was a cook in the service?
And you wondered why they call him Kookie?
April 12th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
mistabrOwn is informed.
April 12th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
People are angry SnB, and it is April.
When the schedule comes out later this week, there will be plenty to talk about.
Until than, whatever passes the time I guess.
April 12th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Funny how the A’s pitching is their strength and the reason for their early success.
Last time I checked J Cust wasn’t a pitcher, genius! The 4th hole is still a concern, Einstein!
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# Seymour Bush Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
Funny how the second the A’s ditched Jack “Bust”, they started winning. I guess league records in strikeouts out of the four hole DOES make a difference. Funny. Who’d a thunk it?
April 12th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
# aig Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
It’s all about pitching man. The Giants and A’s are loaded at that position this year. The A’s have a good bullpen too. It has been so long since I last followed the A’s. I hated when they broke up Hudson, Zito and the other big name.
^^^^^^^^
The key with the A’s is Geren getting his head out of his arse coach and execute more situaitonal hitting and play small ball to manufacture runs.
April 12th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
Go to http://www.nfl.com
and when you click on the war room/draft rooms of each team it asks you what the mood of fans are…..most Raider fans show they are not in the top 5 of unhappiest war rooms….predictably.
It’ll get uglier if old man Al screws up this draft like he did last years.
April 13th, 2010 at 1:33 am
Rd 1- Trent Williams OT
Rd 2- Corey Wooton DE *run stopper
Rd 3- Dexter McCluster WR/RB/KR
Rd 4- Linval Joseph DT *run stopper
Rd 5- Phillip Dillard ILB
Rd 5- Marshall Newhouse OT/OG
Rd 7- Stafon Johnson RB
Rd 7- Joe Webb QB
FA pick up- Matt Clapp FB
April 13th, 2010 at 2:13 am
# Mistabr0wn Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
No this economic contraction has been intentionally dealt by Barback 0bama so he can “transform” america. Like his cheif of staff said…
“No crisis, should go unwasted”
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I couldnt let this one go…
How dare a REP, to say such things, chaney, wolfo, rumsfeld and bush did the nasty to your country when the biggest crisis hid you in 60 years… yup since peal harbour… and MR brownnose, you actually want to start pointing fingers???
you started a war well before the first plane took off, it was on the table…. not that you had it planned, you actually did it, and furthermore agaisnt a country that didnt have anything to do with the attacks…
dont start talking about shyt you dont know anything about… so dont mention WMD’s or terrorist training… you and everyone else know that Saud1 Arab1a is the real bad place… but you are too dependent on their oil so instead of attacking them, you president walks with them hand in hand…
MB, just dont point fingers, you do know that when you do that 3 fingers point back at you…
April 13th, 2010 at 2:15 am
“you are too dependent on their oil so instead of attacking them, your president walks with them hand in hand…”
http://macsmind.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/bush-hand-holding.jpg
April 13th, 2010 at 2:29 am
LMN
Hell yeah, i beleieve you said your country was socialist, correct. I also remember you loving the fact that it was. Keep speaking the truth
April 13th, 2010 at 3:36 am
well we are not… but to a narrow-minded REP, it would be, Glenn Beck might even call us communists…
Problem is ONLY in america is a liberal, pinkish… in political studies every else where on this globe, is a liberal, a light-blue right-winger…
we have been lead by a two different prime-ministers from ‘liberal party’ since 2001, the first one now is the leader of NATO… they are in coalition with the ‘conservative peoples party’, and relied on support from the ‘Danish Peoples Party’, DPD being very right wing by danish standards, but actually like the right wing of the DEMS…
we have 8 different Party’s at the moment (a TWOparty system will never be democracy)
April 13th, 2010 at 3:50 am
wow correction, 9 parties, in the parliament from far right to far left…’DPD’ has a huge memberbase of nationalists and ‘RGA’ has old communists and such..
parties like ‘LA’, ‘CD’ and ‘SLP’ are very small parties, but often the important ones, because they actually determine who will be in power, you guys will call it the swing vote…
‘Danish Peoples Party’
‘Liberals’
‘Conservative people Party’
‘Liberal Alliance’
‘Centrum Democrats’
‘Social Liberal Party’
‘Social Democrats’
‘Socialist peoples Party’
‘RedGreen Alliance’
April 13th, 2010 at 4:18 am
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April 13th, 2010 at 5:41 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
The nice guy Raiders? Could that be why?
April 13th, 2010 at 5:43 am
Mistabr0wn Says:
April 12th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
The economy goes in cycles, it contracts and expands naturally over time like most things do
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do you base this on economics books and theories from the 1890 or the 1920?? because post wallstreet crack and 2WW all know thats not true…
you talk about the economy as its natural, its nothing like natural, its man made therefore it reacts to mans doings… its not like the jet-stream over the ice-caps or pasat-winds… its not some sort of beast…
you blame obama for spending your money, well your republican hero, are the one prez that spend more per capita than any other prez… all your military bases, all you highways so you could ship men and weapon out to the coast in case the russians would attack… tons of schools all that was paid by taxes… and of course the loans they made to countries during the war…
your economic crisis is based on a law-change made by the bush administration and by investment groups doing bad earnings… that said it of course doesnt just go away because you get a new prez, its not like reset a game if you didnt know, no he inherit the bad economy, funny stuff is you now blame him and forget who actually is the reason for your mess…
when i started here on this site, i got into a fight with ‘JB’, because I said your economy was real bad and all worth something was owned by the chinese, and he didnt believe starting talking about what you guys USED to be… now over 3 years later no-one seem to think i was wrong…
April 13th, 2010 at 5:48 am
I think that Pres Bush thought Iraq had WMD and were involved in the Twin Tower attacks. Turned out he was wrong. I agree our two party system is not the best way another party whatever its named would benefit the U.S. More importantly I would like to see the RAIDERS get the Renegades like we had in the 70’s that dominated back on our team.
April 13th, 2010 at 5:51 am
LMN, you are right! It’s because many people in the PM (which is all they come here for) argue about the President this and the President that. It’s like having a goal of being rich and successful…it does not happen overnight…so why would the economy be fixed overnight? There is really nothing Obama can do maybe in this term. We will all have to wait and see!
April 13th, 2010 at 5:53 am
Good morning LT DAN,
…I would like to see the RAIDERS get the Renegades like we had in the 70’s that dominated back on our team.
Exactly! That is when we had the nastiness that put the fear of God in other teams!!!
April 13th, 2010 at 5:56 am
good morning AM crew!
April 13th, 2010 at 6:01 am
Sam Williams is back.
Commitment to Excellence!
April 13th, 2010 at 6:05 am
LT DAN:
who do you want the Raiders to draft in Round 1?
pick 1 player. any player!
April 13th, 2010 at 6:08 am
LMN… the majority of the American people figured out (albeit too late) that Bush and his gang were liars and thieves, and that’s why there was no way a Republican was going to see the Oval office this time around.
Fortunately, most people still understand that Bush and company created the mess we’re in and understand that eight years of reckless stupidity and the downright fleecing of America is not going to be repaired overnight.
The conservatives on this blog are going to jump right in after I post this and talk about Obama’s spending us into oblivion, but what they will refuse to acknowlege is that health-care costs were (and are) spiraling out of control in this country and something needed to be done. The fact that Bush and his cronies bankrupted the country prior to Obama’s taking over did not make this any less of a problem.
Obama inherited a tough situation, and most of America knows it. The loudest voices don’t necessarily represent the mainstream.
April 13th, 2010 at 6:09 am
Hwnrdr and LT DAN…
problem is the 70’s renegades is NOTHING like the 2010’s renegades…
the old renegades were football players and if they werent teamplayers (though most were) they at least were wariors…
today the renegades is a me-player, with an more-wants-more attitude… and you simply cant win with that…
and example, well i know you guys wont like it, but anyway… in soccer there was a term, called caláctocos, Real Madrid, wanted to win the spanish championsship, and later on the internationnal, Champions league…
The bought the best players form all over the continent great clubs… result a fantastic team
on the other hand FC Barcalona, made their own players recruited them early on and taught them how they wanted them to play, result a fantastic team, but also a very coherent team..
you know you own and team-mates worth in adversity, that of its in a game or over a stretch… point is, when Real started to get a bad streak they turned against eachother and were like the prima donnas they were… and Barca looked at eachother said, we have done this tons of times we know we can do it… Barca went to win loads of games and titles, real sold a lot of jerseys…
April 13th, 2010 at 6:10 am
wooops, that post were a bit longer than intended =)
April 13th, 2010 at 6:14 am
what is this?
soccer & politics?
“If the Raiders go big with McClain and go “Blue Light Special” with the NT….McClain will bust!”
I agree with S&B !!!
April 13th, 2010 at 6:15 am
Jason Campbell will be traded in the next 9 days.
true or false?
April 13th, 2010 at 6:17 am
Not to mention in the ’70s you didnt have the iron fist of Roger Goodell wreaking havoc upon the “renegades” of the league.
April 13th, 2010 at 6:18 am
Good comparison LMN!!!
Unfortunately, ME ME ME is all over the professional sports in America because now its a business instead of playing for the love of the sport!
April 13th, 2010 at 6:19 am
Rockstar, I say true, unless they unload Colt Brennan.
Bcz24…I have to agree with you there!!!
April 13th, 2010 at 6:21 am
Unfortunately, ME ME ME is all over the professional sports in America because now its a business instead of playing for the love of the sport!
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Tooz & Alzado would have taken a crowbar to the peice of trash we call a franchise QB!
April 13th, 2010 at 6:24 am
Colt Brennan was only a 6th rounder in 2008.
ZERO pass attempts in his first 2 seasons …
this dude played for Hawaii, right?
Hwnrdr: if he’s released, should we take a flier on this kid instead????
April 13th, 2010 at 6:26 am
Tooz & Alzado would have taken a crowbar to the peice of trash we call a franchise QB!
They would have done it when he held out his rookie season!!!!
April 13th, 2010 at 6:29 am
I agree Rockstar! He is probably the new “Raider” look that Al would be looking for. Got into trouble at one college (I can’t remember, but I think it may have been Colorado…for sexual assault or witness to it), got kicked out of that college, and June Jones paid him a visit and ended up being the field general for the only modern day era undefeated Hawaii Warriors…well, untill they went to the Sugar Bowl and got badly beaten by Georgia! Plus…he’s from SoCal!!!
April 13th, 2010 at 6:30 am
Rockstar,
you may well be correct about Tooz and Alzado, but they would have made sure to get all of JaFranchises’s bank access numbers before they walloped him wth a tire iron.
April 13th, 2010 at 6:31 am
Yea, I think the raiders either need to go McClain + NT(trade up into the late first) in the first 2 rounds or they they need to trade down later in the first and go OL, OL, DT (no particular order) and then take a flyer on some MLB like Spikes.
Not saying either will happen, but it would help a lot of one of those did.
April 13th, 2010 at 6:32 am
Interesting, if anybody’s following it; there are approximately 300 restricted free agents on the market right now that have not received offers from anybody, and the majority of the ones that have signed anything have signed tenders and remain with their old teams.
Bob McNair (owner of the Texans) says that most franchises are “financially stressed” and simply can’t afford the big contracts. The player’s union is claiming collusion, and are trying to get the teams and the league to open the books.
I don’t know if the franchises are finacially stressed or not, but it seems that the guys getting the big money lately just don’t produce once they get paid. I don’t blame the owners for being a little circumspect.
April 13th, 2010 at 6:35 am
Hwnrdr,
the games I watched of Colt Brennan in college I was very impressed with how quickly he unloaded the ball – a la Kurt Warner – and the accuracy he showed on all ranges of throws.
Have no idea why he’s been buried on the bench thus far.
April 13th, 2010 at 6:36 am
trade JaWalrus and a 5th rounder for Campbell & Brennan!!!
April 13th, 2010 at 6:40 am
That would be a good trade, Rockstar!!!
M: My father followed his pro career, or little of that to this point…he says that for some reason, Zorn didn’t like him and thus burried him to 3rd team (according to Colt’s website, I believe).
He does have accuracy a la Kurt, and I would love to get him…funny thin is, Satele used to block for him…LOL
April 13th, 2010 at 6:44 am
Colt Brennan gets the ball out quickly and he’s accurate?
thats all I need to know. he’s already ahead of Russell on the depth chart
April 13th, 2010 at 6:47 am
Edward Teach,
NFL Corporate has never met a financial truth it didn’t try to hide and the NFLPA won’t ever admit that they don’t care a rat’s a$$ about people with real jobs and real concerns (the fans).
April 13th, 2010 at 6:48 am
The consensus on Colt Brennan is that the ball, although frequently on target, takes way too long to get where it’s going.
Translation: he has a weak arm.
April 13th, 2010 at 6:50 am
Hwnrdr,
I was hoping the Raiders would’ve landed Brennan with a late round pick a couple of years ago.
If I was going to deal with the Shanarat’s about a QB I’d enquire after Colt, not “Aaron Brooks” Campbell.
April 13th, 2010 at 6:51 am
LOL @ “Aaron Brooks” Campbell
April 13th, 2010 at 6:52 am
Lonetree,
Yeah, it’s like trying to figure out who to root for when the Chargers play the Broncos.
In this case I have to side with the owners a little bit, though. Too many guys shut it down after “getting paid”. Albert Haynesworth is a good example; 100 million dollar contract, and Tommy Kelly’s stats were better than his last season. I can’t think of too many people that think that Kelly earns his money, let alone Haynesworth.
April 13th, 2010 at 6:54 am
The consensus on JaMarginal is that the ball, although infrequently on target, gets where it’s going very quickly.
Translation : receivers in peril, pick sixes and dents in the turf.
April 13th, 2010 at 6:55 am
Lonetree… lol
April 13th, 2010 at 6:58 am
DMAC for Colt, straight up.
April 13th, 2010 at 7:00 am
BoSJack,
need to work a scenario where Marshawn Beast Mode ends up in Oaktown and DMc ends up in a galaxy far far away.
getting Brennan would be gravy.
April 13th, 2010 at 7:01 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 13th, 2010 at 6:58 am
DMAC for Colt, straight up.
Haha! I wonder since Shanarat loves his RBs!!!
April 13th, 2010 at 7:07 am
“…and DMc ends up in a galaxy far far away.”
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Hold on to the ball, you must!
April 13th, 2010 at 7:09 am
“I refuse to train him…he is too old!”
Hit ground, he has!
Too Funny, Bo!!!
April 13th, 2010 at 7:11 am
LOL!
April 13th, 2010 at 7:15 am
humor and civility, the AM Crew.
April 13th, 2010 at 7:17 am
That is why I love the AM crew!!!!
April 13th, 2010 at 7:23 am
AM CREW RULES!
April 13th, 2010 at 7:28 am
Colt Brennan fires the ball deep to Darrius Humuhumunukunuku-Bey TOUCHDOWN RAAAAAAAAAAAAIDERS!!!!!
April 13th, 2010 at 7:32 am
here are the nose tackles I want (in order):
Dan Williams
Terrence Cody
Cam Thomas
Torrell Troup
Linval Joseph
Travis Ivey
We’ll end up with:
Brian Price
Jared Odrick
Lamarr Houston
Geno Atkins
Tyson Alualu
D’Anthony Smith
April 13th, 2010 at 7:33 am
Darius Humuhumunukuku????
LMAO!!!
April 13th, 2010 at 7:37 am
Russell, DMAC, and DHB will all be more than solid contributors to the team next year.
Hue Jackson will get all the credit and be promoted to HC after Cable’s contract is up so Al won’t lose him to another team.
April 13th, 2010 at 7:38 am
Colt Brennan has a weaker arm than Bruce, and Bruce might have 30 pounds on him.
I never bought into the Colt Brennan hype. Why not Timmy Chang?
And Campbell, while he may be better, compare his starts to Aaron Brooks stats prior to coming here. Brooks is/was light years ahead of him.
Stick with what we got, and add a rookie in the mid-rounds.
April 13th, 2010 at 7:38 am
here are the MLB’s I want (in order):
Rolando McClain
Brandon Spikes
Micah Johnson
Mike McLaughlin
Kirk Morrison (re-signed) HAHA! thats right suckers!
We’ll end up with:
Sean Weatherspoon
Sean Lee
Donald Butler
Jamar Chaney
Pat Angerer
April 13th, 2010 at 7:38 am
Why all the hubbub about Roethlisberger? Why should the NFL be able to suspend him for any of this?
He hasn’t even been charged with a crime, let alone convicted of anything.
Last I heard, boinking women wasn’t illegal.
Just because some money grubbing whores are trying to extort money from him and just because he is an easy target, doesn’t mean he should be suspended by the NFL.
Maybe some life-choice counseling might be appropriate, but nothing more than that should be done to him.
April 13th, 2010 at 7:39 am
…and the run defense will suck again!!!
April 13th, 2010 at 7:42 am
Rockstar,
I would draft umpteen O-linemen. If one of ‘em wasn’t up to par as an O-lineman I’d toss his fat a$$ on the other side of the line of scrimmage and make a nose tackle out of him. All a nose tackle has to do is to hold the line and get in people’s way.
April 13th, 2010 at 7:42 am
Brian Price
Jared Odrick
Lamarr Houston
Geno Atkins
Tyson Alualu
D’Anthony Smith
and
Sean Weatherspoon
Sean Lee
Donald Butler
Jamar Chaney
Pat Angerer
Pick 2: Tommy Kelly & Kirk Morrison all over again !!!
April 13th, 2010 at 7:43 am
Rockstar,
You need to add Daryl Sharpton to the mix. MLB from the U, and more importantly, the reverend Al’s nephew.
April 13th, 2010 at 7:43 am
Dakota, I agree the NFL has no leg to stand on to suspend him. The Steelers MAY suspend him based on “conduct detrimental to the team” for the negative publicity. I will say this, where there is smoke there is usually fire… to think the Roethlisberger was totally Mr Innocent in both these cases may be a little it of a stretch.
April 13th, 2010 at 7:43 am
Dan Williams
Terrence Cody
Cam Thomas
Torrell Troup
Linval Joseph
Travis Ivey
and
Rolando McClain
Brandon Spikes
Micah Johnson
Mike McLaughlin
Kirk Morrison (re-signed)
Pick 2: we actually made an attempt to stop the run ???
April 13th, 2010 at 7:46 am
No need to suspend Ben, just gas up his bike, take away his helmet and tell him to go for a ride.
April 13th, 2010 at 7:47 am
You need to add Daryl Sharpton to the mix. MLB from the U
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Vegas: Darryl Sharpton is only 230 lbs and under 6 foot.
I’m not a fan of undersized backers!
isn’t he like a projected 6th rounder?
April 13th, 2010 at 7:52 am
6 foot 235, a Finance major, a Sharpton and the starting MLB for the U from his redshirt freshman year on.
Impressive resume if you ask me for a 6th rounder.
April 13th, 2010 at 7:52 am
Can somebody please tell me why we resigned Sam Williams?
April 13th, 2010 at 7:54 am
# vegas raider Says:
April 13th, 2010 at 7:43 am
Rockstar,
You need to add Daryl Sharpton to the mix. MLB from the U, and more importantly, the reverend Al’s nephew.
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Yes! and then bring back Southwick.
April 13th, 2010 at 7:56 am
408RAIDER Says:
April 13th, 2010 at 7:52 am
Can somebody please tell me why we resigned Sam Williams?
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Because his 13.7 tackles per season are why our defense and special teams are so good.
April 13th, 2010 at 7:57 am
most people think Kirk Morrison is undersized and he’s 6′2″ 240 lbs!
Again, I’m not a fan of undersized backers …
if Sharpton can add 10-15 pounds of muscle, hit like a mack truck and cover TE’s?
I’ll take him
April 13th, 2010 at 7:57 am
Pick 2: we actually made an attempt to stop the run ???
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RRS, Do you have the NFL package from DirecTV?
Do you get to see all the games?
April 13th, 2010 at 7:58 am
McFadden is a better tackler than Williams. McFadden had 14 tackles last season….they were of himself, but still, he is certainly a better tackler than Williams.
Just kidding!
April 13th, 2010 at 7:59 am
Can somebody please tell me why we resigned Sam Williams?
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408: because we want to win. I’m just glad Al Davis didn’t place the franchise tag on him!
probably came back for the vet minimum and he’ll be a big reason why our special teams unit is top notch this year
PLAYOFFS?!?
April 13th, 2010 at 8:00 am
most people think Kirk Morrison is undersized
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No we don’t, we just think he takes horrible angles, and is lousy shedding blocks. The team is just OBVIOUSLY not impressed.
April 13th, 2010 at 8:02 am
Yeah …
Let’s draft Al Sharpton’s guy, lol.
I’m sure that would add some excitement around here.
April 13th, 2010 at 8:02 am
BTW Good Morning Nation!
April 13th, 2010 at 8:02 am
Do you have the NFL package from DirecTV?
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I wish!
I just have Dish Network. America’s Top 100
ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNEWS, etc
Used to have NFL Network, but they stripped it away 2 months after I signed the 2-year contract and made it so you have to go up to America’s Top 200 (gold) or something to get it – which is $20 more per month
what a load of crap, right ???
April 13th, 2010 at 8:03 am
No we don’t
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Jhill: you speak for everybody? or just you?
April 13th, 2010 at 8:03 am
Ricky’s got a #D tv! Draft party at Ricky’s!
April 13th, 2010 at 8:04 am
Dakota,
yep, your boy is a lean mean self-tackling machine!
April 13th, 2010 at 8:05 am
Anyone from here going to the draft? :p
April 13th, 2010 at 8:05 am
At least you can get NFL network. I have Time Warner digipic 1000 package (every available channel BUT PPV)and NFLN is NOT available.
April 13th, 2010 at 8:06 am
well if u ask me we are getting away from who we are ever since romo punched that guy and broke his eye socket we were some tough guys now look at us
April 13th, 2010 at 8:06 am
Dakota,
Are you trying to rile up certain contributors with your Big Ben take?
buying under age girls drinks + following her into the women’s bathroom = hubbub?
LMFAO!
April 13th, 2010 at 8:09 am
I just have Dish Network.
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Yeah, that’s crazy. I pay the coin for DirectTv and all the perks JUST for the sports packages.
You not having access to all the Raider games, NFL Network, and “film” review is really hindering our ability to get on the same page, lol.
April 13th, 2010 at 8:09 am
408,
when the Raiders re-upped Sam Williams they were hoping to pacify the fans who clamour for Dan Williams and Trent Williams. A name recognition thing. After all an eighteenth cousin on the dog’s side of the family is better than no Williams at all, right?
April 13th, 2010 at 8:10 am
we intimadate no one we could show up at college national championship and intimadate not even a college team
April 13th, 2010 at 8:10 am
Speaking for myself RRS …
And the coaches, of course.
April 13th, 2010 at 8:11 am
sam williams should stay home they will cut him
April 13th, 2010 at 8:12 am
Jhill: out in the country where I live it’s Dish or nothing.
no service or whatever for DirectTv. it’s not an option
and my works blocks almost every sports or video related site out there (except this one. hehe)
nothing I can do about it!
and YOU PEOPLE wonder why i’m a statswhore???
April 13th, 2010 at 8:12 am
be back later gents.
April 13th, 2010 at 8:15 am
i havent even seen a defensive guy push a offensive player with any agression
April 13th, 2010 at 8:17 am
Jhill: out in the country where I live it’s Dish or nothing.
no service or whatever for DirectTv. it’s not an option
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You see campers and 18 wheelers with the Dish rolling all over the country. I find it hard to believe that you can’t get a satellite signal where you live.
No In N Out and No DirecTv?
You need to move bruh!
April 13th, 2010 at 8:18 am
M
ahhh now I see.. Once again I see clearly thanks to the wisdom of M Lonetree..
April 13th, 2010 at 8:21 am
Why haven’t we traded for Brandon Marshall yet?
April 13th, 2010 at 8:27 am
So Kameron Wimbley is going to be our big offseason acquisition I guess.
April 13th, 2010 at 8:28 am
Steelers need a WR after trading for Santonio Holmes.
Wonder if they would take JLH off our hands?
April 13th, 2010 at 8:29 am
Enough of this “Kameron” or however he spells it.
I’m calling him Cam’ron.
April 13th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Steelers LOVE taking WR’s in the first or secound round (Plax, Holmes, Sweed, Troy Edwards, Ward) that I think they will take a WR not named Dez Bryant in the first or second.
Golden Tate or Benn, IMO
April 13th, 2010 at 8:31 am
Cam’ron and Seymour next to each other on the strong side of the offense should be better than anything we’ve seen here since ………
April 13th, 2010 at 8:32 am
But they could have JLH for so much cheaper
April 13th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Got to go work for a few hours
April 13th, 2010 at 8:37 am
This is a very nice feel good type of article but the bottom line is our team is not winning with our formula of drafting chior boys in shoulder pads.
We can’t pick up a bunch of looney tunes but we do need to get players who can ball and have sense enough to keep their “nose clean.”
April 13th, 2010 at 8:37 am
Good morning all.
April 13th, 2010 at 8:39 am
Choir boys are fine IF you’ve got someone to lead them.
April 13th, 2010 at 8:39 am
jhill Says:
April 13th, 2010 at 8:06 am
Dakota,
Are you trying to rile up certain contributors with your Big Ben take?
buying under age girls drinks + following her into the women’s bathroom = hubbub?
LMFAO!
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Maybe.
But just a couple of points; first, when you are in a bar it is the establishment’s responsibility to make sure all of their patrons are over the age of 21, therefore Ben could rely on the mere fact that she was allowed into the bar as proof that she was of legal drinking age and he could therefore buy her drinks….second, he didn’t follow her into the bathroom, they went there together to fool around….you make it sound like he was stalking her.
April 13th, 2010 at 8:40 am
LMN,
I can see why a Euro socialist like yourself would want to defend a Marxist bonehead like 0bama but haven’t you got problems of your own?
When you fix your mess come talk to me about ours, deal ?
April 13th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Ha!
April 13th, 2010 at 8:40 am
408,
the Raiders’ ways are often convoluted and so it requires non-linear “sideways” thinking to get at what is actually going down at any moment with the team and the organization.
April 13th, 2010 at 8:42 am
i like spikes from florida in the 3rd rd
April 13th, 2010 at 8:43 am
second, he didn’t follow her into the bathroom, they went there together to fool around
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LOL …
Ok, man.
April 13th, 2010 at 8:45 am
jhill Says:
April 13th, 2010 at 8:43 am
second, he didn’t follow her into the bathroom, they went there together to fool around
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LOL …
Ok, man.
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Haven’t you seen “The Wrestler?” That is how big time athletes do it….in bathrooms with drunk or high skanks.
April 13th, 2010 at 8:45 am
If Rothlisberger was a “brutha” all these bleeding heart tree hugging left wing crackpots would be calling that woman a ho and giving they’re boy props. Instead..
We all know the drill.
April 13th, 2010 at 8:47 am
Who is this Rene Gades anyway ? Sounds French.What position does he play ?
April 13th, 2010 at 8:48 am
jhill u said the smartest thing said all tues day
April 13th, 2010 at 8:50 am
Instead..
We all know the drill.
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Would LOVE to know who “WE” are, and what “the drill” is.
We = Non-”Brutha”?
the drill = persecution of “non-bruthas”
April 13th, 2010 at 8:50 am
Maybe.
But just a couple of points; first, when you are in a bar it is the establishment’s responsibility to make sure all of their patrons are over the age of 21, therefore Ben could rely on the mere fact that she was allowed into the bar as proof that she was of legal drinking age and he could therefore buy her drinks….
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This is NOT true. A buddy of mine was picked up for statutory rape for sleeping with a 16yo he met in a bar. She looked identicle to the 22yo girl on the ID she was using, and he WAS able to beat the charge on the strength of a good lawyer, and the discretion of the DA. However, picking her up in a bar does not relieve you of legal ramifications if she is in fact under age, and you can still be prosecuted.
April 13th, 2010 at 8:53 am
@ least Ben isn’t married! All he’s guilty of is making bad choices. Who wouldn’t follow a drunk hot chick to the bathroom to fool around?
April 13th, 2010 at 8:54 am
how could b marshall b a bad thing
April 13th, 2010 at 8:55 am
So Mista what you’re saying is liberals like rapists of color?
Oh.
I get it.
April 13th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Sorority skanks were stalking Ben around town that night. They trapped him in the club. They engaged is sexually charged conversation with him, then one of them lured him to the bathroom, teased him a bit and then cried rape.
Sad story.
Roethlisberger is the victim, and he needs to understand that he is now a target. We need to protect Big Ben and guys like him from these predators.
April 13th, 2010 at 8:56 am
408
The rub is that he “violated” her or “assaulted” her which we all know is horse sh!t. So him being single isn’t really the issue its the alleged horse sh!t that these holier than thou hypocrites are having a problem with…
April 13th, 2010 at 8:57 am
No weasel I didn’t say it and I dont think that.
Nice try..
April 13th, 2010 at 8:59 am
bcz24 Says:
April 13th, 2010 at 8:50 am
Maybe.
But just a couple of points; first, when you are in a bar it is the establishment’s responsibility to make sure all of their patrons are over the age of 21, therefore Ben could rely on the mere fact that she was allowed into the bar as proof that she was of legal drinking age and he could therefore buy her drinks….
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This is NOT true. A buddy of mine was picked up for statutory rape for sleeping with a 16yo he met in a bar. She looked identicle to the 22yo girl on the ID she was using, and he WAS able to beat the charge on the strength of a good lawyer, and the discretion of the DA. However, picking her up in a bar does not relieve you of legal ramifications if she is in fact under age, and you can still be prosecuted.
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LOL,
You are confusing two issues. I was talking about supplying alcohol to minors. You are talking about statutory rape.
You can see the difference can’t you?
April 13th, 2010 at 9:00 am
dakota
Do you type that stuff with a straight face? cuz I cant stop laughing..
April 13th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Mistabr0wn Says:
April 13th, 2010 at 8:45 am
If Rothlisberger was a “brutha” all these bleeding heart tree hugging left wing crackpots would be calling that woman a ho and giving they’re boy props.
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Okay then. Clarify.
April 13th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Trade Dmac for a sorority skank!
April 13th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Weasel what I said is clear, if you are struggling with it that’s your problem not mine.
April 13th, 2010 at 9:13 am
Things to do.
Have a great Tuesday everyone.
April 13th, 2010 at 9:14 am
lets get mean and nasty we could even get plex when he gets back we need winners at fights or whatever! just win baby!
April 13th, 2010 at 9:19 am
LMAO Dakota.
Good Morning Nation.
Trade up for Suh!
Draft a MLB!
Draft OL!
Draft a FB!
April 13th, 2010 at 9:22 am
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If I had the Anti-rape Tape in 2010, things would have been much easier on me and my family. For example things would have went like this in Milledgeville, Georgia:
Ben: (Tape recording begins): This is Ben Roethlisberger, quarterback of the Pittsburg Steelers, and I am here at the Capital City Club in Milledgeville Georgia on Saturday, March 6th, 2010. With me is Candy, a sorority girl here at Georgia College, say high!
Candy: High everyone! Goooooo Bobcats!
Ben: Candy, what is your full name?
Candy: Candy Morehead.
Ben: How old are you Candy?
Candy: I am over 21, my licenses says so!
Ben: Are you giving your consent to engage in all legal forms of sexual intercourse with me at this time?
Candy: For sure….I wanna know why they call you “Big Ben”!
Ben: Where should we go to engage in this sexual intercourse?
Candy: At this club I usually take guys to this cute little bathroom down that hall!
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April 13th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees!
Sam Williams is back!!!!!!!!!
April 13th, 2010 at 9:29 am
LMFAO at Morehead …
How appropriate.
April 13th, 2010 at 9:30 am
LMAO Dakota
Send one to Kobe!
April 13th, 2010 at 9:40 am
Hello Raider Nation. Ben is prob guilty but just like everybody else they are innocent until proven guilty. Guess we have to live with it. A lot of big time athletes or super rich people get away with a lot of things the average American could not. Why havent we traded for Haynesworth, Campbell and Gaithers?
April 13th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Go A’s!
April 13th, 2010 at 9:55 am
# Mistabr0wn Says:
April 13th, 2010 at 8:40 am
LMN,
I can see why a Euro socialist like yourself would want to defend a Marxist bonehead like 0bama but haven’t you got problems of your own?
When you fix your mess come talk to me about ours, deal ?
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Im/we having a problem, I wasnt aware of that… enlighten me, you clearly are a fountain of knowledge…
April 13th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Where are you from LMN?
April 13th, 2010 at 10:04 am
LOL,
You are confusing two issues. I was talking about supplying alcohol to minors. You are talking about statutory rape.
You can see the difference can’t you?
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Then your point is totally useless because Roethlisberger was not accused of buying drinks for underage girls.
April 13th, 2010 at 10:06 am
# Dakota Says:
April 13th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Sorority skanks were stalking Ben around town that night. They trapped him in the club. They engaged is sexually charged conversation with him, then one of them lured him to the bathroom, teased him a bit and then cried rape.
Sad story.
Roethlisberger is the victim, and he needs to understand that he is now a target. We need to protect Big Ben and guys like him from these predators.
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Huh? Why do “we” need to protect sexual assault guys like Ben from predatory women?
F**k Ben….what the heck has he done for you, me or any of us in here??
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we need a 10-6 season bad
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