Draft prospect: Anthony Davis
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, April 21st, 2010 at 11:18 pm in Oakland Raiders.
No. 12 in a series analyizing potential selections for the Raiders, who pick No. 8 Thursday in the NFL draft:
College: Rutgers
Position: Offensive tackle
Height, weight: 6-5, 323
Why it’s Davis: Has great feet and agility to go with his size. Story similar to former Stanford tackle Bob Whitfield _ a nationally renowned high school recruit who opted for Rutgers in a surprise and became a very good player. Only 20 years old, Davis may have more “upside” than any tackle in the draft and unlike Bruce Campbell, has some actual production to go along with great feet and agility required to be a left tackle. He’s been a starter since midway through his freshman season and considering his age, 20, may have the bet upside of any tackle in the draft.
Why it’s not Davis: Work ethic and attention to detail was criticized at times, as Davis was able to coast on his natural ability. Weighed 366 pounds upon entering Rutgers but slimmed down to 315, temporarily losing his starting job as a sophomore because of weight gain. Had 21 bench press reps at 225 pounds _ 17 less than projected top five pick Russell Okung _ indicating he needs more upper body strength. With Tom Cable saying the goal is to get a starter with the top pick, No. 8 may be too high for Davis. He becomes a better option if the Raiders trade down in the round.
Quotable: “My athleticism helps me get out of a lot of situations. If I step the wrong way it helps me get back into position.”
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April 21st, 2010 at 11:23 pm
He will probably be the Best OT left by #8.
April 21st, 2010 at 11:37 pm
Better Davis than another track star!
April 21st, 2010 at 11:39 pm
OT, DT, C, MLB, OG, FB, CB, PR/KR, that’s what we need along with better O-line back-ups.
April 21st, 2010 at 11:44 pm
All the guessing ends tonight.
April 21st, 2010 at 11:45 pm
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April 21st, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Hard to get too excited when our last 5 31 picks have been Fabian, Huff, JaMarcus, DMac and DHB…can you say lack of production?
Not going to expect too much based on Al’s recent history.
April 21st, 2010 at 11:50 pm
Please Al!!!! No BRUCE Campbell!!! Pleeeeaasee NOT HIM!!!
He SUCKS!!! It’s FOOOLS GOLD I TELL YOU!!!
I think i’ll HANG myself if you select that guy!!
PLEEEASE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
April 21st, 2010 at 11:50 pm
After seeing the raiders bulking up at the LB position with Groves, I think we are going McClain at 8 and picking up a NT like Cody at 2. I think Cable talking about Oline was all smoke and mirror. They’ll prob go after the Oline in rd 3 and 4.
Good nite.
April 21st, 2010 at 11:51 pm
Raider75 Says:
April 21st, 2010 at 11:44 pm
All the guessing ends tonight.
…and the second guessing begins.
April 21st, 2010 at 11:53 pm
Anyone but CAMPBELL!!
Anyone!!!
Just Not Campbell PLEEASE!!! NO, No,NO!!
April 21st, 2010 at 11:57 pm
I was really hoping the Raiders could land Trent Williams. But judging by some of the latest mocks, he’s really moved up the board. Maybe even ahead of Okung.
I hope Al doesn’t settle for Bulaga or Campbell.
If Clausen is available at 8, they would be wise to dangle that pick and work a trade with a team wanting to get ahead of Buffalo.
I’ll be happy with McClain, Trent Williams, or even Clausen.
Can’t wait to hear, ” the Raiders are now on the clock…”
April 22nd, 2010 at 12:07 am
Raiders have listed Quentin Groves as a LB in the web. Trevor Scott, Kamerion Wimbley and Quentin Groves are DE playing LB. Are we going to play some 3-4 defense or what?
April 22nd, 2010 at 12:07 am
Bulaga at RG works for me with the 8th. If your going to take G at 8. Iupati? No way. Too raw a mauler with little technique.
Bulaga with his short arms takes over what WILL be a need at RG or even RT.
Who knows with Big Al though…
April 22nd, 2010 at 12:09 am
El Tato Says:
April 22nd, 2010 at 12:07 am
Raiders have listed Quentin Groves as a LB in the web. Trevor Scott, Kamerion Wimbley and Quentin Groves are DE playing LB. Are we going to play some 3-4 defense or what?
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I think “or what”.
No NT to anchor that 3-4 but we do and will play 3-4 on occasion but not as a basae. Its 4-3 all the way for Mr Davis.
April 22nd, 2010 at 12:12 am
Maybe 3-4 in 3rd down
April 22nd, 2010 at 12:12 am
It is draft day!!!
April 22nd, 2010 at 12:12 am
El Tato Says:
April 22nd, 2010 at 12:12 am
Maybe 3-4 in 3rd down
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They do blitz in it and in the red zone.
April 22nd, 2010 at 12:13 am
Raiders won Super Bowls in the past with a 3-4 defense
April 22nd, 2010 at 12:50 am
El Tato, you must work for the team. Only an employee of the team would make that argument. lol.
April 22nd, 2010 at 12:51 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
April 22nd, 2010 at 12:07 am
Bulaga at RG works for me with the 8th. If your going to take G at 8. Iupati? No way. Too raw a mauler with little technique.
Bulaga with his short arms takes over what WILL be a need at RG or even RT.
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If they do take Bulaga, then I think there will be an open competition for the LT spot. With the loser sliding over to the other side.
Even if Bulaga can’t play LT, then he’ll be penciled-in at RT.
With Bulaga, the slow feet scare me more than the short arms.
Joe Thomas of Cleveland had short arms, but he has turned out to be a stud because of his footwork on the blindside.
April 22nd, 2010 at 1:11 am
NorthernD
Bulaga slow feet? wither you’ve never seen this guy play or you just don’t know what to look for. He has great feet it’s one of his strengths. His kick and slide is of the best in this draft. There isn’t much he doesn’t do well. His arms are his only drawback. Most scouts think he’s so good that he can’t get much better.
The OT’s are in this order 1. T Williams 2. Okung 3. Bulaga Davis and C Brown are very close IMO.
April 22nd, 2010 at 1:13 am
Also we already play some 3/4 front. We may be mving to more of it to take advantage of the talent at LB.But we played 3/4 maybe 30% f the time last year.
April 22nd, 2010 at 2:31 am
Aig Says:
April 21st, 2010 at 11:50 pm
After seeing the raiders bulking up at the LB position with Groves, I think we are going McClain at 8 and picking up a NT like Cody at 2. I think Cable talking about Oline was all smoke and mirror. They’ll prob go after the Oline in rd 3 and 4.
im praying for this scenario..zbs dosent require elite lineman,we can use the later rounds on o/line where we have had more success evaluating talent…stop the bloodclart run first and foremost
1.McClain LB
2.Cody DL
3.OL
4.OL
5.CB
6.John Conner FB
April 22nd, 2010 at 2:47 am
On Roethlisberger trade, Steelers likely have passed the point of no return
Posted by Mike Florio on April 21, 2010 10:36 PM ET
For a week, the Steelers failed to nip in the bud the notion that he is available via trade. Now, for nearly a full day, they have been actively shopping him to other teams, in the wake of the announcement of his six-game suspension for violating the NFL’s Personal Conduct Policy.
So what happens if the Steelers can’t trade him for a first-round pick? Do they go for a Donovan McNabb package, with a second-round pick in 2010 and something more in 2011?
Or do they simply bring him back?
It could be too late for the Steelers to unring this bell, now that they’re trying to move the eleventh pick from the 2004 draft. Really, how often does a starting quarterback move from trading block to his old job?
To date, Roethlisberger’s camp has been silent. With the Steelers’ immediate response to the news of a suspension to be to commence the process of dumping him, maybe he has decided that he wants out.
Either way, this story won’t be wrapping up any time soon. If he gets traded, it’s actually only getting started.
-PFT
April 22nd, 2010 at 3:24 am
1- OT T Williams
2- DE Carlos Dunlap (Move Seymour inside)
3- DT Linval Joseph, L Houston, T Troup, G Atkins, or J Owens.
4- ILB B Spikes
5- RB Deji Karim
7- FB
7- CB Bryan McCann or AJ Wallace
Roster:
Defense:
DE: Dunlap, T Scott/ Groves
DT: Seymour, Dez
DT: Rookie/ TK, Dez
DE: Matt S, J Richardson
WLB: Groves/ T Scott, Norris
ILB: Spikes, Kirk, Brown
SLB: Wimbley, S Norris
CB: Nnamdi, CJ, Routt, Rookie
FS: Huff, Eugene
SS: Branch, Mitchell
Offense:
QB: JR, Bruce, ?
HB: DMC/ Bush, Reece, Deji Karim
FB: Rookie
TE: Miller, BM, ?
WR: Chaz, Murphy, DHB, JLH, N Miller
OT: T Williams, Mario, Barnes, Pears
OG: Gallery, Cooper/Walker, ?
C: Satele, Morris
April 22nd, 2010 at 3:26 am
We pick up Wimbley and then Groves.
We’re switching to a 3/4 and it could work.
Al’s not going for McClain, he’s going for Trent Williams with the 8th pick.
April 22nd, 2010 at 3:31 am
I think we will play 4-3 and 3-4 on defense.
April 22nd, 2010 at 4:28 am
El Tato!!!!!
good to see you again… ready for the draft? its going to be late =)
April 22nd, 2010 at 4:32 am
First Round:
Dan Williams or Rolondo McClain — That would make for an outstanding draft…best draft in 10 years.
Williams or McClain…anything else and start rolling the clips of 40 yard runs…5 yard gashes etc..etc…..
Mario Henderson is the LT. If he was a 1st round pick, you all would be celebrating him like you do that bust DHB!
April 22nd, 2010 at 4:33 am
Dan Williams or Rolondo McClain!
April 22nd, 2010 at 4:39 am
What I learned from last nights post…
is that KoolKell is a racist, he thinks all white people hate his race… That SteveAlford and Blackbeard thinks they have been treated bad because of their Irishness, funny how that they forget they made full payback as cops beating and jailing blacks without proper handling…
And M Lonetree tried bring in some quality to the discussion, he claims the same thing i heard for years… a black man from Africa would NEVER see a a black man from the US as his brother, cousin or anything near that, he would see him as pure american..
that KoolKell thinks columbus made it to africa and that he had slaves with him, well yeah there was slaves when the US was english and french, but the big burst all KK stems from came after the war of independence…
well, the sad part about is, I actually read those comments :/
April 22nd, 2010 at 4:40 am
If some you want to see cool pictures of the vulcano, a friend of mine took these, as the only out there at ground level
He is a Norwegian…
http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?assettype=image&artist=Terje%20Sorgjerd
April 22nd, 2010 at 4:44 am
Ive been a huge Tebow fan in College, and he’s just what the Raiders need at the QB position.
There are sooooo many awesomely talented players in this draft, can’t draft them all.
I’d come out of the draft a happy person if we drafted Tebow.
There are some players out there that would also make me happy, and positions addressed like OL/DT/MLB. Some like Mays, Berry, Kindle, that I’d be cool having on the team as well if Al wanted to draft sexy.
But let it be known, Tebow = girly yelp by me.
April 22nd, 2010 at 4:46 am
Richochet…
I almost forgot… You dont understand why KK would go to copenhagen, one of if not the best jazzfestival is in Copenhagen, thats why KK is going that week…
if you Copenhagen isnt on you list, well thats sad for you… if you find sandy beaches more important than other stuff, then you chose right…
you say you dont want to say anything bad about copenhagen, but in fact you do,
If it hadnt been for us and our brewery here in copenhagen, you wouldnt be able to drink your beer, we are the sole reason its possible to mass-produce beer…
and just for that you should be respectful and in awe LOL =)
April 22nd, 2010 at 4:47 am
Morning guys, 12 more hours of blind optimism.
Tebow looks really good with his new throw and such. I think he could be the best QB in the draft tbh. I really wouldn’t mind if we drafted him in the 2nd round.
April 22nd, 2010 at 4:59 am
I feel like cussing a lot. I just cant handle the apprehension and tension leading up to the calling out of Raiders draft picks.
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:05 am
Repost:
MY TOP 25 PLAYERS IN THE DRAFT
*Based on athletic playmaking ability and potential but disregarding position and “character issues” (since we don’t really know these guys personally I can’t get too wrapped up in that part of an evaluation though I don’t disregard it’s importance in the actual drafting process).
1. Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
2. Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
3. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
4. Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
5. Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
6. Sergio Kindle, LB, Texas
7. Brandon Graham, DE, Michigan
8. Mike Iupati, OG, Idaho
9. Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
10. Toby Gerhart, RB, Stanford
11. Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
12. Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State
13. Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
14. Koa Misi, LB/DE, Utah
15. Taylor Mays, S, USC
16. Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
17. Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
18. Charles Brown, OT, USC
19. CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson
20. Ryan Matthews, RB, Fresno State
21. Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
22. Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
23. Tyson Alualu, DT, California
24. Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers
25. Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:06 am
—”Appearing on Mike and Mike in the Morning Friday, ESPN’s Chris Mortensen mentioned Darren McFadden as a player that might surprisingly be traded over the next three days. McFadden came up as Mort was naming players on the block, beginning with Albert Haynesworth and ending with unsigned restricted free agent Shawne Merriman. Merriman, though, can’t be traded until he inks his one-year tender. The No. 6 overall pick in 2008, McFadden has already missed seven games due to injury in his first two seasons and averaged just 3.9 yards a carry”—
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:06 am
c’mon you FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKing Raiders!
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:14 am
I still have a feeling this Roethlisberger trade could happen. If it does it’ll likely be a bombshell that’s not announced until the Raiders go on the clock because doing so beforehand would tip off the Bills and anyone else who might be interested in jumping up for Clausen. Trade could depend on whether Clausen is still there or not.
I actually think it’s 50/50 whether this happens even though the reports of the moment say talks have stopped. If those reports are true that could easily just be negotiating ploys by one or both sides.
Bottom line: Pittsburgh ownership wants Roethlisberger gone and no one is willing to just hand over a top-10 or probably even top-15 pick with his baggage right now. So I think we’re looking at a swap of first rounders and our 2nd for Ben. Or Ben + their 2nd for our 1st and 4th or something like that.
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:19 am
CINY…
yup, i fear that too, but i hope its not going to hurt our draft, I hope we can pull some lions-scheffler thingy =)
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:29 am
Tebow #8
Best #39
That would make me happy too. Even tho we have to address OL, it can still be done with late rounders etc.
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:32 am
I’d hope we low-ball the Steelers and only give up a 3rd for BB. He’ll be out for 6 weeks and another transgression will mean a whole season. 2010 already a wash if we get BB and he misses 6 games. Pointless imo, especially as he’ll have to spend the rest of the season trying to synch with our receivers etc.
I’d rather we get someone, whether Jason Campbell, Colt Brennan, or Tim Tebow (for eg), who can earn the job in camp, be in synch right from the get go, and no anvil hanging over their heads.
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:33 am
GG…
that would make me cry =)
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:39 am
I dont want you to cry, but there is method to the madness of drafting the sexy difference makers at the top, and finding many OL pearls later. As opposed to doing that in reverse. Best btw in context of McFadden traded for a high 2nd, say, and used on things like C, OG, NT, MLB, DB.
McFadden’s future is a scat-back/WR. Id rather an every-down contributor at OL/NT/MLB than a 3rd down specialist “RB”.
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:44 am
yeah, it was the Tebow thing that would make me cry… our team should get a name change if we draft him…
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:47 am
What dont you like about Tebow?
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:47 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
The Big Ben talk has me going no! I agree with GG on this matter (although I do think that 6 games is a bit steep)…
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:51 am
GG Says:
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:32 am
I’d hope we low-ball the Steelers and only give up a 3rd for BB. He’ll be out for 6 weeks and another transgression will mean a whole season. 2010 already a wash if we get BB and he misses 6 games. Pointless imo, especially as he’ll have to spend the rest of the season trying to synch with our receivers etc.
I’d rather we get someone, whether Jason Campbell, Colt Brennan, or Tim Tebow (for eg), who can earn the job in camp, be in synch right from the get go, and no anvil hanging over their heads.
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You had a case until you said you’d rather get Jason Campbell, Colt Brennan or Tim Tebow. There are serious questions about whether any of those guys can ever even be a halfway decent starter in the NFL. Ben has won 2 Super Bowls in about 5 seasons and is arguably the 4th best QB in the league right now. If you throw out the off-field issues I’ll take Roethlisberger having joined my team that morning to QB it that afternoon over months of preparation and timing with WRs established by Campbell, Brennan or Tebow.
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:53 am
# GG Says:
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:47 am
What dont you like about Tebow?
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Tebow!
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:57 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, HWNRDR, ALL THE USUAL SUSPECTS. WHO WOULD TAKE MC FADDEN OFF OUR HANDS ?
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:59 am
right now, probably any team…but they know that Al is going to ask pretty high!!!
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:00 am
What kind of bat sheet crazy pick is Al going to make tonight?
Worst drafter of all time, no question!
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:01 am
I was just throwing some names around at QB. BB has the rings, but he’s on a career path to ruin now. Plus it’s pointless, him missing 6 games then spending 6 to acclimate to our WRs etc, waste of time, season a wash. PLus him 1 strike from longer suspension.
It’s not like a team in the NFL can ONLY win SBs if they have BB at QB. We can find alternatives. I personally like those 3 I mentioned as options. But my argument is not hinged on those particular 3 QBs.
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:02 am
# La Milicia Negra Says:
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:53 am
# GG Says:
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:47 am
What dont you like about Tebow?
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Tebow!
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Haha, no fair, man. If you had some football-centric points would be good too!
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:02 am
What I learned this morning; La Milicia Negra needs to brush up on his English comprehension.
At no time did I ever say that I felt bad about the way the Irish were treated at certain points in history. I simply acknowleged that it happened, and gave props to SteveAlford for knowing the history of his heritage, which is something a lot of Americans don’t.
I also know about the abuses that some that share my heritage inflicted on others. I don’t feel any differently about that than the abuses the Irish suffered.
I wasn’t personally involved, it’s done and I can’t change any of it. It’s a new day, and my behavior now is a whole lot more relevant than the behavior of the folks on either side.
If that doesn’t clear it up for you, LMN, perhaps there are some more English classes you could take. It might help, because you are coming across as a judgemental ass.
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:03 am
Eagles would take McFadden off our hands. He would suit their offense very much too.
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:03 am
Found a couple of scouting reports on Quentin Groves before the 08 Draft:
Compares To: DeMarcus Ware-Dallas…Much like the Chargers’ Shawne Merriman and Ware, Groves has that explosive quickness and outstanding suddenness to wreak havoc in the backfield.
He is a perfect fit for a hybrid outside linebacker/rush end position in a 3-4 defensive scheme and like Merriman and Ware, he could thrive if allowed to play in a stand-up position. He was having a banner senior campaign before dislocating several toes, but with his balance and body control, along with lateral movement, he should have no problems adjusting to playing off the line.
With so much emphasis on pressuring the pocket and getting to the quarterback in the NFL, there is no other player in this draft that can match Groves’ pass rushing ability.
ANALYSIS: Groves is a disruptive defender who consistently makes plays in the opponent’s backfield. He possesses outstanding size/speed numbers and if he ever learns to elevate his game and consistently play at a high level he could be an All-Pro player in the NFL.
- You won’t find a guy like this in the 5th round, but why hasn’t he done it in 2 years?…I think he’s worth the risk.
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:10 am
- You won’t find a guy like this in the 5th round, but why hasn’t he done it in 2 years?…I think he’s worth the risk.
Based on the scouting reports and then his 2 years in the NFL, I agree with you Bob!
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:11 am
Good morning all.
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:11 am
Blackbeard…
Great stuff… no my english isnt the best i know that, but atleast im not the worst here on this site, its not my native tongue and I still beat out some here, thats okay for me..
Great you acknowledge you heritage’s wrongdoings, and yup i know it has nothing to do with you, as the irish priest of the catholic church wrongdoings such as child molestation has nothing to do with you… I simply acknowledge that they do happen…
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:12 am
Buckle up!!
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:12 am
After 3 years of Josh McCown, Daunte Culpepper, JaMarcus, Gradkowski, Frye…if there’s a chance to get Big Ben we should make it happen.
Everything becomes easier once you have a top-noth QB.
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:13 am
Marley,
I think John Marshall proved to Al last season that he can get guys to the QB if he’s allowed to do his thing, and we all know Al’s feelings about getting to the QB.
Maybe Al’s giving him some new toys to play with, and will let him have a little more fun this year. One can only hope.
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:15 am
Don’t want Big Ben.Bad boys don’t seem to fit at the Raiders anymore.6 game ban and a rep for holding onto the ball for too long……
Ain’t gonna work behind our line.
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:19 am
Thanks for the beer LMN and all that bacon!
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:20 am
# GG Says:
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:02 am
# La Milicia Negra Says:
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:53 am
# GG Says:
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:47 am
What dont you like about Tebow?
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Tebow!
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Haha, no fair, man. If you had some football-centric points would be good too!
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I dont, or well some… he is 25% H-back, 25% Fullback, 25% TE and 25% QB….. that equals to NO QB…
and then his bible shyt, I dont care for fundamentalists, if we draft him we should change our name to Oakland Prayers..
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:22 am
# neilb Says:
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:19 am
Thanks for the beer LMN and all that bacon!
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youre welcome… thanks for montgomerie and churchill =)
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:22 am
Neilb
Dakota said it best on a prior post, Ben knows how to move around in the pocket, he’s not a sitting duck out there…Pitt’s O-line is nothing special, Ben made a ton of plays despite constant pressure, I think he’d be just fine here.
And I don’t mind starting Bruce or Boller in the first 4 to 6 weeks, after that Ben takes over for the next 5 years.
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:23 am
Anytime!!
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:25 am
Bob….Good point,but our line makes Pitts look all-Pro.
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:28 am
And one more thing.I can’t see AL trading for him.It would be like he was saying the Russell pick was wrong and a mistake.
What would you do with JaMarcus if we traded for Roethlisberger ?
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:30 am
Don’t know if anyone’s heard this or not, but Steve Corkran is reporting that the Steelers wanted the #8 overall from the Raiders for Big Ben. Apparently Al said, “Sure, if you throw in the #18 overall.”
Doesn’t look like the Rooneys are going for it.
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:31 am
Just think about it this way…
When was the last time a team passed on a Franchise QB because their line wasn’t good enough?.
It’s much easier to build a decent O-line than it is to get your hands on a Pro Bowl QB.
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:32 am
Teach
They’re probably going back and forth now, I’d take Ben and Pitt’s 3rd rounder for our 1st and 5th.
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:33 am
drafts starts at 6:30pm Podunk time!
10 hours baby!!!
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:35 am
Later.
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:35 am
I’d take Ben and Pitt’s 3rd rounder for our 1st and 5th.
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me too Marley!
2nd
3rd
3rd
7th
7th
O-Line could be fixed as soon as tomorrow night
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:36 am
I heard yesterday that Pitt wanted #8 and Nnamdi Asomugha. I don’t think THAT is worth it, a trade from #8 to #18 would be good!
If the trade does happen, I hope Big Ben cleans up his act…
Neil…I think it has been said already that Russell is a bust! He needs to prove us all wrong!!!
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:37 am
Cheers Bob!
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:37 am
Marley,
I don’t know. Al doesn’t have a first round pick next year. I think it would take a combination of things that they may come to terms on, but I’m pretty sure Al wants a first rounder this year. Pittsburgh’s second and third rounders are pretty far down the list to be settling for that, even if you do get Roethlisberger.
Al knows he has holes to fill, and not just at quarterback.
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:38 am
How much time have the teams for each pick ?
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:38 am
how about JaMarcus Russell and our 1st in exchange for Big Ben and thier 4th?
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:40 am
No one else want Roethlisberger ? Bills,Cards,Eagles or Rams?
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:41 am
I think the Steelers are waiting to trade Big Ben to Oakland until tonight.
if they trade him now and some team trades ahead of Oakland at #8 and snags Jimmy Clausen they are stuck with Leftwich/Dixon/Batch at QB or a “developmental” rookie QB later on like McCoy, Pike, LeFevour, Tebow, etc.
Steelers don’t want to screw the pooch by getting too antsy. Cleveland could still take Clausen too. you never know!
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:42 am
I’d take a fourth round pick for Russell!
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:43 am
when the Raiders are on the clock at #8 and Jimmy Clausen is still on the board you can bet your sweet ballsack that Al’s phone will be ringing!
…but maybe not until then
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:43 am
Trade DMAC for Rapelisberger and swap 1st’s with Pit. We can take Iupati in the teens. Big Ben will be the starter all the way through camp to get in synch with the team, and Grads or Russell can take us through the first 6 weeks.
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:46 am
# neilb Says:
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:42 am
I’d take a fourth round pick for Russell!
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hell, id take a 5th..
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:46 am
I’d take a fourth round pick for Russell
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Steelers could have an open QB competition between Dixon, Russell and the vets.
only way to dump JaFranchise with his monster salary is to trade him in a package deal like this one to a team that needs a QB and is desperate for whatever else it is we’re offering!
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:46 am
I think the two sides are definately reviewing their options on a trade. It is good to hear the Raiders acknowledge there are talks about Ben. Al has some players to add to the trade, so the Steelers are probably reviewing our tape. I would prefer we keep max picks…we have few players I wouldn’t consider trading.
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:46 am
I still don’t want Roethlisberger,BUT,I like that trade Bcz24.
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:47 am
Great idea Bcz!
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:48 am
Wasuup folks!
Any dreams or preminitions last night?
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:49 am
JaMarcus Russell and our 1st in exchange for Big Ben and thier 4th
… also means they could draft Haden at #8 if Clausen is off the board to Cleveland.
CB is a huge need for that team.
We all saw Gradkowski/Murphy rip them a new one! yikes!
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:52 am
BCz…
I was thinking the same stuff, but i still dont like BB, that said, he might even not get suspended, Goodell have said nothinng determined yet… then it would be a steal, but of course he will get suspension…
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:53 am
Trade DMAC for Rapelisberger and swap 1st’s with Pit.
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if we make this trade I want Terrence Cody or Ryan Mathews at #18 , not Pouncey or Iupati !!!
SD is gonna grab one of these beasts and dominate us. I’d rather see them stuck with Jahvid Best at RB. another Darren Sproles imo. haha
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:56 am
Ben’s suspension could be reduced to 4 games if he goes to that counseling session and tells the shrink that he’s sorry for what he did.
hope the doc isn’t some young hot chick with a stocked liquor cabinet in her office!
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:56 am
No one else want Roethlisberger ? Bills,Cards,Eagles or Rams?
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NOT A ONE!
Bidding against ourselves and we give up the #8 AND a player?
I’ll pass on that one.
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:57 am
A ton of scenarios out there. You don’t hear too much about them, but the Chiefs are not a lock to stay where they are, either. Pioli wheeled and dealed quite a bit on draft day when he was in New England, and they have a lot of holes that multiple picks could help fill.
Holmgren just gets nervous and feels like he has to do something; witness all the pretty inconsequential activity that went on when he first took over the Browns.
There might be a small bidding war to get into a position to take Clausen, and that could affect everybody that picks after Tampa Bay.
Way too variables to say for sure that something specific will or won’t happen. I even read this morning that the Giants have accessed Spiller’s cellphone number. Considering that the Seahawks and the Browns are rumored to be in the mix for him, tonight could get interesting. Wouldn’t surprise me at all for Pete Carroll to trade his pick for the Giants’, grab another pick or two and take his former player Charles Brown to play LT for the “Hawks with the Giants’ first rounder.
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:58 am
#8 pick for Big Ben AND the #18 pick or NO DEAL Rooney!
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:58 am
Too funny Rockstar, and JHill…I agree! Not for our #8 and any player!
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:58 am
A little surprised that no other team has asked about Roethlisberger.That we know of.
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:59 am
Al Davis doesn’t care about his image. see the Lane Kiffin presser & DHB/Mitchell selections last year for example. and keeping Cable after he knocked the p1ss out of the asst DB’s coach in a meeting.
he cares about winning football games. period.
if he thinks Big Ben can help us accomplish that … WELCOME TO OAKLAND !!!
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:01 am
3 days of draft fun!!!!!!
Today we fix our LB. Tomorrow we fix the lines.
And Sat, we trade Kirk and Howard.
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:03 am
#8 pick for Big Ben AND the #18 pick or NO DEAL Rooney!
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throw in JaWalrus, just for sport.
Jhill, if he’s every bit as capable as you, Debo and Priest think … then it’ll make a fun match-up on 11/21 when we travel to Pittsburgh!
all he needs is a better supporting cast, right fellas?
let’s find out !!!
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:03 am
That scouting report on Groves is crazy.
I’ve been a proponent of the 3-4 for us for quite some time. Just looking at the personell, we are 1 NT away from being …..
Nahhhhhh. who am I fooling.
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:06 am
That is if we can get a real NT though, right!
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:07 am
A little surprised that no other team has asked about Roethlisberger.
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D White was just on ESPN2 and made a point of saying that the Steelers are the ones calling the Raiders.
3rd rd pick and a player AL. Cmon, their desperate.
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:07 am
Just looking at the personell, we are 1 NT away from being …..
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Terrence Cody will be available at #18
i’m just saying …
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:09 am
jhill,
i agree. looking more and more like there could be a shift to 3-4. if that is the case then drafting McClain at 8 and trying to get mt cody with our 2nd (or trading up to get him) would pay immediate dividends. just not sure if i am buying it. Probably more of a case of uncle Al seeing a tremendous athlete available and trying to fit him into what is already being done here.
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:09 am
Ben is a winner and a hell of a leader… ON the field. DMAC has done nothing, except have a decent game against the Chiefs once, getting rid of him is not a huge loss in my books, and it fills a need for the steelers. Swapping first rd picks is win win for both teams. I think that trade offers Pitt enough value, without the Raiders getting taken for a rid like normal (see Belecik, Bill). Big Ben will absolutely do whatever it takes to get his sentence “commuted” to 4 games. I think we will go 2-2 or at worst 1-3 in those 4 games, then with Ben coming in instantly upgrading us. He will make the running game better as well as the passing game, he can play behind a porous oline (lets face it, pit probably has the 3rd or 4th worst oline in football) and he would put fans in the seats. I love the trade if the value is right. I hate it if we just give up the 8th for him and thats it.
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:11 am
Thought Wauffel (sp?)was a 4-3 coach.
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:12 am
Thought Wauffel (sp?)was a 4-3 coach.
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he is!
Neil: shhh, don’t ruin it for them
let it be a surprise
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:12 am
trade #8 and a future conditional 4th round that could either escalate to a 3rd or 2nd based on Rapistbergers play or downgrade to a 6th or 7th if Ben gets in more trouble for the troubled qb and the squeelers pick at #18.
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:12 am
us being a 3-4 team, would be GREAT!
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:13 am
I’d be shocked if the Raiders are able to acquire Big Ben for a swap of 1st rounders
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:13 am
Regarding Trindon Holliday, my choice for “Fast Guy Late In The Draft to Return Kicks and Punts”…
4.31 40 was the fastest at the NFL Combine this year.
One scout’s opinion: “Whoever takes him, keeps him, because he will scare the **** out of everyone they’re playing. This kid can play.”
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:14 am
all he needs is a better supporting cast, right fellas?
let’s find out !!!
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Henderson-Gallery-Satele-Iupati-Walker/Barnes = Better supporting cast.
Henderson/Barnes-Gallery-Satele-Walker-Davis = Better supporting cast.
Chaz-Murphy and DHB in year 2-Nick Miller = Better supporting cast.
Hue Jackson = better supporting cast.
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:14 am
LOL!!
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:16 am
Agreed Jeremy …
What if Al fuggs the whole draft up and takes Mt Cody at 8?
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:17 am
Well Im off, see you guys later…
going to see 6 ‘24′ episodes in a row…
Liverpool vs Athletico-Madrid… and
The draft…
Maybe I join you guys here, tonight =)
see ya…
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:18 am
Mt Cody at 8?
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then we’ve just become a better football team.
when’s the last time we drafted a physical beast in Round 1 ???
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:19 am
Have fun LMN!
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:20 am
Umm…2004, in the name of robert Gallerrey! Well, he was supposed to be…
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:22 am
6 years ago?
hwnrdr: don’t you think it’s time ???
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:22 am
The other Russell in ‘97.
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:23 am
….or even Seabass in 2000.
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:26 am
1st rounder players I would be ecstatic about (that we actually have a chance at):
McClain
D./T. Williams
Berry
Iupati
Pouncey
Davis
Trading down
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:26 am
Yes I do, Rockstar!!!
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:28 am
BBL gents!
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:29 am
You look at fat fuggs like Wolfork and Casey Hampton and how teams paid them this offseason, you would think guys like Cody, Thomas, and Joseph would be top 10 picks.
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:29 am
neilb Says:
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:22 am
The other Russell in ‘97.
You know, that has to be the biggest disappointment of all time! Too bad!!!
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:31 am
Adam_Schefter Interesting part is Raiders and Bills would have seemed no brainers. And they’re not interested.
about 3 hours ago via web
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Adam_Schefter Let’s rule out some more potential landing spots for Ben Roethlisberger: No Raiders, no Jaguars.
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:32 am
I guess that answers that!!!
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:32 am
Hwnrdr…
Who’d we have playing next to him? Came over from Dallas.
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:34 am
If Al see’s that report he’ll do the trade just to prove Schefter wrong!
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:35 am
Next to Mt Cody?
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:36 am
NEW POST!!
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