Raiders bring `haters’ to their knees
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, April 24th, 2010 at 5:17 pm in Oakland Raiders.
A funny thing happened on the way to another weekend of national scorn and ridicule.
The Raiders dominated the NFL draft.
OK, “dominate” is probably too strong, because no one really knows how a draft class is going to be for a few years down the road. But considering the abuse they’ve taken over the past few years, much of it justified, most who watched as a fan or critic were of the opinion the Raiders had three good days.
Three very good days.
Tom Cable’s talk about “championships” remains a reach, but at least it’s not ludicrous any more.
The fact is, if Rolando McClain is a middle linebacker who even approaches the level of a rookie Ray Lewis or Patrick Willis, if Lemarr Houston can provide a stout end to turn runners inside, if Jared Veldheer or Bruce Campbell can add something to the offensive line, and most importantly, if Jason Campbell elevates the art of quarterback all the way to above average, the Raiders have the look of a .500 team.
And once you’re a .500 team, you’re only a break or two away from 10 wins.
People rolled their eyes at the Raiders on Wednesday. By Saturday, they were something to be taken seriously.
Seldom was heard a discourging word from the endless procession of talking heads on ESPN and the NFL Network, many of them prefacing their comments with a qualifier such as, “I can’t believe I’m saying this, but . . . ”
Since he took over has head coach, Cable has wanted to get rid of negativity. He’s talked about in press conferences. He’s talked to reporters informally about it, wondering why doom and gloom is so prevalent. My response has been it’s a reflection of the won-loss record over the past seven years, and that it wasn’t going to go away until the Raiders changed things on the field.
Well, the Raiders, for the time being, did what I didn’t think was possible. They cast themselves in a positive light with what appears to be sound and decisive personnel moves.
In the cocoon of the Raiders draft room, Cable isn’t yet fully cognizant the negativity has ground to a halt.
“For awhile I’ve said at some point things will start to change,” Cable said. “If that’s the feeling out there it would be second to the feeling in that draft room.”
A skeptic can still find fault.
What if McClain isn’t any better than Derrick Johnson, the linebacker the Chiefs thought would change their defense in 2005?
Or that Houston is one of those Texas players who doesn’t take the next step in the NFL.
If Veldheer can’t make the gigantic leap from Hillsdale to the AFC West, and Bruce Campbell is one of those “looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane” types, then Jason Campbell will find himself taking a beating, the passing game will falter, and, well, you know the rest.
But the bad vibes are for another time.
Oakland has made a run at shoring up problem areas, and instead of reaching for “numbers” players like kick returner Jacoby Ford and Bruce Campbell too high, the Raiders took their shot in reasonable rounds. Veteran linebacker Kamerion Wimbley cost a third-round pick and Quintin Groves a fifth, both reasonable moves for talented players at not much cost.
Topping it all off, Jason Campbell, while not an elite NFL quarterback, was a 64.5 percent passer for a struggling Washington team and although he had 15 interceptions last year, has been pretty good at avoiding turnovers.
His arrival means Al Davis has taken a realistic view of JaMarcus Russell, which in turn will boost the spirits of the fan base. Campbell is scheduled to make $3.1 million this year on the tender he signed in Washington, and was extended for another $4.5 million next year. He’s not here to sit.
Campbell is far better idea than either an aging Donovan McNabb or the toxic Ben Roethlisberger, and it came at almost zero cost _ a fourth-round draft pick two years from now.
All the rumors about fire sales and the perception of a a franchise hopelessly adrift, and Davis did more good things in a short period than at any time in recent memory.
It wasn’t perfect, because it never is.
“You can always do better. I’m sure after we have some time reflect on it, we’ll look at it and say, `Man, I wish we could’ve done this or that,” Cable said. “But shoot, man. That’s a heck of a draft for the Raiders. It really is, and you can put some check marks to some very important issues on this football team.”
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April 24th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
1st
April 24th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
One could hope their on their knees. must be talking about mistabrOwn
April 24th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
Raiders need an NT Jerry!!!
Call Cable and let him know
The fans want a big body run stopper!!!
April 24th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 24th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Hey Jerry, what is a strong sideline linebacker (from previous post re: Stevie Brown)?
He did have flahses last year at LB. GO BLUE!
April 24th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
we will all regret the day raiders didnt draft jimmy clausen
April 24th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
Black vs Carter Go! for our RG spot
April 24th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
Hey jaded jerry….Campbell isnt the starter yet,pal
April 24th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Who was the NT for the GIants in the SB run? Waufle has his horses, I hope. Maybe one more in FA? This draft was just weak at the NT position…
April 24th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Raider4eve,
Are you a lil “special”?
April 24th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Well, the Raiders, for the time being, did what I didn’t think was possible.
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you’re such a hater jerry
April 24th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
329.stoopidmike Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
4evaRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Clinton Portis was never garbage anywhere he played….Portis coulda been a baller 4us,imo
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Thats just my opinion on the guy.I think he’s washed up,jamal lewis-like. Too many carries.Normal stat line for Portis: 28 carries 72 yrds 0 td.
April 24th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
April 24th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Coach on Wheels Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Higgins and Nick Miller will have to compete with Ford for PR/KR duties. That will be FAR more important than who gets 15 catches as the #4 WR behind Chaz, Murphy and DHB.
I doubt all 3 DBs drafted make the team.
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Nick Millers days are numbered……
April 24th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Ron
Huh? What do you by lil “special”?
April 24th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Like umm……mentally challenged
April 24th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Whats really nice is we are talking football on this blog again.So many weeks of stupid chatter about everything but Raider football on this blog.
April 24th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Ron
Nah bro, y u ask?
April 24th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Hey Mike….
the reason I brought up Portis was….
Guy said that Jason Campbell did pretty good in washington and he didnt have anyone to help or compliment him….I told Guy J.Campbell had Portis
April 24th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Who was the NT for the GIants in the SB run?
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All this talk of the giant, pardon the pun NT is a bit overblown. Yeah, sure, I would like Holati Ngata too, but last time I looked, he wasn’t available. But let’s look at this whole “NT” thing:
Pro Bowl NT for Dallas who runs a 3/4 odd front is Jay Ratliff: 6′4″, 301. Not exactly Haynesworth size and he is a pro bowl player.
When the Giants won the SB a couple of years ago Fred Robbbins was their NT at 6′3″ 315. Tommy Kelly is 6′5″ 310. Of course having Strayhan on the edge doesn’t hurt.
Neither of the Philly Eagle DT’s are that big. All of the Indianapolis DL are well under 300. I can keep going…
April 24th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
4eve,
I dont know man, some of your posts are just so rediculous its hard to believe your a rationally thinking grown man.
April 24th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Who was the NT for the GIants in the SB run?
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All this talk of the giant, pardon the pun NT is a bit overblown. Yeah, sure, I would like Holati Ngata too, but last time I looked, he wasn’t available. But let’s look at this whole “NT” thing:
Pro Bowl NT for Dallas who runs a 3/4 odd front is Jay Ratliff: 6′4″, 301. Not exactly Haynesworth size and he is a pro bowl player.
When the Giants won the SB a couple of years ago Fred Robbbins was their NT at 6′3″ 315. Tommy Kelly is 6′5″ 310. Of course having Strayhan on the edge doesn’t hurt.
Neither of the Philly Eagle DT’s are that big. All of the Indianapolis DL are well under 300. I can keep going…
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Great Post
April 24th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Who was the NT for the GIants in the SB run?
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All this talk of the giant, pardon the pun NT is a bit overblown. Yeah, sure, I would like Holati Ngata too, but last time I looked, he wasn’t available. But let’s look at this whole “NT” thing:
Pro Bowl NT for Dallas who runs a 3/4 odd front is Jay Ratliff: 6′4″, 301. Not exactly Haynesworth size and he is a pro bowl player.
When the Giants won the SB a couple of years ago Fred Robbbins was their NT at 6′3″ 315. Tommy Kelly is 6′5″ 310. Of course having Strayhan on the edge doesn’t hurt.
Neither of the Philly Eagle DT’s are that big. All of the Indianapolis DL are well under 300. I can keep going…
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And we now got the DLine Coach of that Fred Robbins Super Bowl Winning Team……..
April 24th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
SATANFEARS ALDAVIS Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
we will all regret the day raiders didnt draft jimmy clausen
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Us and 31 other teams
April 24th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Indianapolis has a terrible run D though. I just want someone like Jay Ross or some NT next year unless we get a center. Our first pick is in the 2nd. Who is better, C. Black or B. Carter?
April 24th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
I posted this a little while ago on a different thread, not knowing there was a new post. I think it’s relevant to what’s being discussed now;
Let me start by saying that I was one of the people in here that thought we needed a big fat guy for the middle of our d-line. However, after listening to Cable talk about there being a new and different approach onm defense next year and looking at the type of linebackers that we have penciled in as starters, and the adddtition of Lamaar Houston, I’ve come to a different conclusion. Based on who we already have and who we picked and traded for this year, I think our defensive front seven is going to resemble the NY Giants more than anything. The majority of their linemen can be used all over the line to create different looks and matchups, and their linebackers are stout against the run. Our linebackers, however, are bigger than theirs.
Had to laugh when I read one of SnB’s thousand or so posts complaining that we weren’t getting the fat guy that he wanted for the middle, and he used the Giants as an example of a team that has a big nose tackle. They are indeed stout against the run, however every single one of their d-lineman is right around 300-305 pounds.. Pretty much the same as us.
I think maybe our scheme(s) for the front seven will look similar to theirs next year, and I kinda like that idea
April 24th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Can we PLEASE find a way to go get Haynesworth and Gaither now?
April 24th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
JACOBY FORD
Wide Receiver/Return Specialist
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OVERVIEW
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April 24th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Houston, Kelly, Seymour, Richardson, Shonasty, Bryant
They avg. around 295, I would posit. And Baby Howie is available for injury time.
April 24th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
wow great pick Al.Suprised he lasted that long
April 24th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Screw Gaither. We have high motor guys now. No more slugs. Butcher the walrus!
April 24th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
I like Scott as on OLB.
April 24th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
So to speak…
April 24th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Sure Bo!
April 24th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Screw Gaither. We have high motor guys now. No more slugs. Butcher the walrus!
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That is exactly right. Why do some of you guys want fat ass losers that don’t want to play the game, but love cashing their fat pay checks? Why do you want players like that? And then you criticize Russell?
April 24th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
we traded Dmac 4a butcher?
WHAT?
April 24th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Mr. Teach,
I don’t recall saying the Giants had a “huge” NT. But what some of you are not understanding here is there is a difference betweeen the “penetrating, get up the field type of DT and the guy that pushes the pocket and is basically moving two guys backwards or to a standstill.
There is no H/W/S requirement for either position. For example, Gerard Warren was a big guy, 330 lbs, but was a penetrator and not a hold the point guy. At the same time, you can get a big strong guy that can take on those two guys and get in the running lane…its just that usually if you have a lot of “girth” to go with that strength, you tend to weigh on the d-line.
Right now this roster does not have too many push the pocket anchor types….Houston and Kelly are penetrators….period.
The concern is very legitimate and has to be addressed. William Joseph and Dez Bryant (290lbs) are not the anchor guys. So we will see.
I am willing to give the Def Coordinator a chance. Although, with Joseph, Bryant and Cooper in reserve, we definitely could have used another DT anyway.
Unless you think Cooper and Joseph, both out of the league last year for part or all of the season are great answers.
April 24th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Also, should we not forget, Mr. Waufle is not a savior yet. He was fired, so we still have to take a wait and see with him and see if he is an upgrade over the guy that was there last year
April 24th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Ok, since I’ve been called a hater and Jerry is addressing “haters”, I’ll play.
Just imagine if these names were in our starting lineup this year:
QB Rich Gannon
RB Charlie Garner
WR Tim Brown
WR Jerry Rice
CB Charles Woodson
S Rod Woodson
Would you believe me if I told you we went 4-12 with these players?
These players are the best of our 2003 roster. These players also made up an intricate part of a Raider team that went to the Super Bowl a year earlier, sans Bill Romanowski (who only played 3 games in ‘03), and DT Sam Adams.
Gannon was injured in the middle of the year, and that factored into the demise. But 4-12, with the talent and veteran leadership on that team? Plus, the team was 2-4 with Gannon, prior to the game he got injured in. Gannon was the league’s MVP a year earlier, and the team jumped out to a 4-0 start.
Now, would you say the roster we’re going into the 2010 season with is better than that? While there’s some talent, it’s not even close. And again, that team, loaded with veteran talent, tanked. And, they tanked early on, when they were healthy.
The bottom line is: Al Davis simply finds ways to lose, and he’s done so with much better Raider squads than this. That’s why I’m not cracking the champagne over this draft.
Sincerely,
Hater.
April 24th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
And we also should want to give McClain the best chance to succeed. We want him reading and reacting, filling gaps etc…not fighting off guards and tackles all game and making tackles 5yds down the field
April 24th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
This is the defense…
LDE – Houston
DT – Kelly
DT – Seymour
RDE – Shaughnessy
LOLB – Wimbley
MLB – McClain
ROLB – Scott
LCB – Asomugha
SS – Branch (Mitchell?)
FS – Huff ( Branch?)
RCB – Johnson
April 24th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Ok, since I’ve been called a hater and Jerry is addressing “haters”, I’ll play.
Just imagine if these names were in our starting lineup this year:
QB Rich Gannon
RB Charlie Garner
WR Tim Brown
WR Jerry Rice
CB Charles Woodson
S Rod Woodson
Would you believe me if I told you we went 4-12 with these players?
These players are the best of our 2003 roster. These players also made up an intricate part of a Raider team that went to the Super Bowl a year earlier, sans Bill Romanowski (who only played 3 games in ‘03), and DT Sam Adams.
Gannon was injured in the middle of the year, and that factored into the demise. But 4-12, with the talent and veteran leadership on that team? Plus, the team was 2-4 with Gannon, prior to the game he got injured in. Gannon was the league’s MVP a year earlier, and the team jumped out to a 4-0 start.
Now, would you say the roster we’re going into the 2010 season with is better than that? While there’s some talent, it’s not even close. And again, that team, loaded with veteran talent, tanked. And, they tanked early on, when they were healthy.
The bottom line is: Al Davis simply finds ways to lose, and he’s done so with much better Raider squads than this. That’s why I’m not cracking the champagne over this draft.
Sincerely,
Hater.
: are you taking your valiums? you sound a little more depressed than usual. oh wait al davis just had his best draft this century!!!! thats it when the raiders do well you get depressed!!!! gotcha.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
305 lbs seems kinda heavy 4a DE,imo
April 24th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
24,
You don’t know that. Houston is lining up over the tight end and there hasn’t been any indication that Seymour is moving inside.
We have to wait and see. Shaughnessy isn’t penciled in as the starter yet
It could be
Houston, Kelly, Joseph, Seymour
Wait and see.
Sign Terdell
April 24th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
4evaRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
305 lbs seems kinda heavy 4a DE,imo
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Cable already said he’s playing DE.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
We had a pretty good draft I must say.
I also want to say draft WR Jacoby Ford was a good move as well. He is not just a track kid. He catches with hands and he has top end speed but he also likes use his body well jumping for balls. Not to mention his special teams ability to PR and KR. This was a smart pick for where it was at. He was just as explosive as CJ Spiller in the open field. WWill go up and get the rock. He does seem to have hands. Will see!
Good job Raiders!
April 24th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Has McClain every played in a 4-3? If not, our best shot of him succeeding is trying to get Jay ross as our NT for this year.
RE: Houston
NT: Ross
LE: Seymour
WLB: Scott
MLB: McClain
MLB: ?
SLB: WImbley/Groves
April 24th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
24 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
This is the defense…
LDE – Houston
DT – Kelly
DT – Seymour
RDE – Shaughnessy
LOLB – Wimbley
MLB – McClain
ROLB – Scott
LCB – Asomugha
SS – Branch (Mitchell?)
FS – Huff ( Branch?)
RCB – Johnson
: do you think we’ll take a shot at big albert? sounds really risky, would probably have to part with aso to get him.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
We should try Routt on the outside, everyone says he is more comfortable there than in the slot.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Guy Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Has McClain every played in a 4-3? If not, our best shot of him succeeding is trying to get Jay ross as our NT for this year.
RE: Houston
NT: Ross
LE: Seymour
WLB: Scott
MLB: McClain
MLB: ?
SLB: WImbley/Groves
: mcclain said he played 4-3 in high school. only a few years ago. I’m sure he could adapt quickly. highest football IQ in the draft.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Al Davis had the best draft of this century? Surely you mean compared to other Raider drafts.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
drafted 2 cbs, SEEMS like AD is up to something. i know he loves corners but still.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Al Davis had the best draft of this century? Surely you mean compared to other Raider drafts.
: is that all you could muster as a response? wow
April 24th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
*****Why no nose tackle taken in draft******
I think Oakland does not want a rookie d-lineman in there for their LBs. They may get a veteran to play that role since we already got a rookie LB in the game. Why trust the entire running game up the gut to two rookies?
I could see Al looking at Heinsworth but if he is acting a fool forget it! Al has had enough of players taking advantage of his $ in FA.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
No Russell!!!
April 24th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
NFL teams singing to Russell now………”Hellooooooooo is it me you’re looking for?”
April 24th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
RaiderRon
Bro, I would like you to enlighten me on which post made you feel I am insane….
I never knew you fellowed my posts but if so please quote me sometimes its good to get critiqued in order to resemble a grown ass man which i assure u i am !!!!
April 24th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
It looks as if Russell is going to be gone. A lot of fans here blame Russell more than anyone for how bad this team is, and have suggested that getting rid of him would be an “addition by subtraction” that might boost this team to playoff competitiveness. If that’s the case, there is nobody who did more to help this team win in the past few years than Lane Kiffin, who never wanted Russell in the first place. You don’t have to thank him. He knows you’re grateful.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
*****Why no nose tackle taken in draft******
I think Oakland does not want a rookie d-lineman in there for their LBs. They may get a veteran to play that role since we already got a rookie LB in the game. Why trust the entire running game up the gut to two rookies?
I could see Al looking at Heinsworth but if he is acting a fool forget it! Al has had enough of players taking advantage of his $ in FA.
: big al has been paid all of his guaranteed $$ by wash. just dont know if he would play even close to 100%. maybe seymour would get him moving. but then what would it take to get haynes? bye bye aso, what about kelly? cant trade him, cut him? the 50 million $ DT!
April 24th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
someone must have locked big al in the bathroom for the first 2 days of the draft.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Godliness,
You are the one saying the Raiders will take the West and raving how great the D will be and you have the audacity to call anothers’ post “moronic”. Funny stuff.
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My great friend Rhonda….still fuming about your boyfriend Farglass getting sliced and not being employed?
Raiders have QB and actual hope for once…..players are juiced that Russell gone
April 24th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
Houston player RDE when he played the position,then played RDT.I dont see us moving Shaunessy from LDE to RDE,either
April 24th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
Yes, Al Davis had the best Raider draft of the century this weekend. Read: Raider draft, not draft in comparison to other teams. If you look at other Raider drafts, you’ll see that it’s not much of an accomplishment, considering his other drafts have been pathetic. He didn’t draft well. He just avoided doing anything stupid…for once. I’m proud of him.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
Sign undrafted free agent Brandon Carter! Just do it, baby!
April 24th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
It looks as if Russell is going to be gone. A lot of fans here blame Russell more than anyone for how bad this team is, and have suggested that getting rid of him would be an “addition by subtraction” that might boost this team to playoff competitiveness. If that’s the case, there is nobody who did more to help this team win in the past few years than Lane Kiffin, who never wanted Russell in the first place. You don’t have to thank him. He knows you’re grateful.
: lane kiffin did nothing to help the raiders. give me a break, he didnt do anything in tennesse either. will probaly bust out at USC too. why you’re a kiffin balllicker is beyond reason. and Russell is horrible, but sure its not JUST him. but he’s the #1 overall buster.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
It looks as if Russell is going to be gone. A lot of fans here blame Russell more than anyone for how bad this team is, and have suggested that getting rid of him would be an “addition by subtraction” that might boost this team to playoff competitiveness. If that’s the case, there is nobody who did more to help this team win in the past few years than Lane Kiffin, who never wanted Russell in the first place. You don’t have to thank him. He knows you’re grateful.
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LOL Russell doesnt want to work nor he never cared. He walked around as if he was GOD. He had a smirk on his face and flaunted his riches in people’s face. His entourage also insulted people after Denver game in Oakland about being poor and Russell laughing. He also threw teammates under the bus saying he wasnt the problem…..Maybe you dont know it but Raider people in the Bay Area are relieved Russell is gone. People hate his guts
April 24th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
or Ciron Black + Ryan Perilloux (good deep passer) or Jay Ross.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
Yes, Al Davis had the best Raider draft of the century this weekend. Read: Raider draft, not draft in comparison to other teams. If you look at other Raider drafts, you’ll see that it’s not much of an accomplishment, considering his other drafts have been pathetic. He didn’t draft well. He just avoided doing anything stupid…for once. I’m proud of him.
: why aren’t a draft scout? you know it all right? AD has been good after the first round most years.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Well, if you believe that Russell held the team back, then Kiffin tried as hard as he could to help the Raiders. Do the math. If Russell’s gone, Raiders improve. Kiffin never wanted him. If Russell is the worst thing about this team, then by that logic Kiffin would have to be the biggest asset to this team in the past few years considering it was HE who didn’t want Russell, and was vocal about it. Source: AL DAVIS.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
Houston player RDE when he played the position,then played RDT.I dont see us moving Shaunessy from LDE to RDE,either
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Man Shaughnessy is better off at RDE….the smaller DEs are suited to go up against the LTs….we are really nuts to think Seymour or Houston can be super hardcore pass rushers off the edge against the LT
April 24th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
return of godliness, are you going to give Kiffin props for being right? HE didn’t want Russell. Imagine how far ahead our passing game would be if Kiffin were allowed to make decisions regarding offensive personnel?
April 24th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
just look at how mad faekmaddenraider is!!!! i wonder how crazy he’ll act when oak wins more games,he’ll probably have a nervous breakdown
April 24th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Well, if you believe that Russell held the team back, then Kiffin tried as hard as he could to help the Raiders. Do the math. If Russell’s gone, Raiders improve. Kiffin never wanted him. If Russell is the worst thing about this team, then by that logic Kiffin would have to be the biggest asset to this team in the past few years considering it was HE who didn’t want Russell, and was vocal about it. Source: AL DAVIS.
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Hey…Kiffin was right about Russell…yes we have already come to grips with this but Kiffin still stunk while here
April 24th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
AD has been good after the first round “most years”? lol. Surely not the past 7.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
24 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
This is the defense…
LDE – Houston
DT – Kelly
DT – Seymour
RDE – Shaughnessy
LOLB – Wimbley
MLB – McClain
ROLB – Scott
LCB – Asomugha
SS – Branch (Mitchell?)
FS – Huff ( Branch?)
RCB – Johnson
That looks like a REALLY GOOD DEFENSE to me!
April 24th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
return of godliness, are you going to give Kiffin props for being right? HE didn’t want Russell. Imagine how far ahead our passing game would be if Kiffin were allowed to make decisions regarding offensive personnel?
: i wanted them to get calvin johnson, BUT getting a QB is suppose to happen FIRST when you rebuild. but russell was and is a bad choice in any round.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
return of godliness, are you going to give Kiffin props for being right? HE didn’t want Russell. Imagine how far ahead our passing game would be if Kiffin were allowed to make decisions regarding offensive personnel?
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Hell i didnt want Russell
April 24th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
If Russell was the worst thing on this team, as many suggest, then that means Kiffin by default was the best asset this team has had in the first few years considering he didn’t want Russell, and he was vocal about it. Source: Al DAvis.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
SnB – Houston playing LDE is the base position for lining up over the TE. I’m looking at it as if I was looking at the back of the defense. Shaughnessy was great last year and with Warren getting let go, I believe the team felt Seymour was better on the inside and against the run. I think the team wants more speed on the outside and Houston/Shaughnessy fit that role.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
# Kirk Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
24 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
This is the defense…
LDE – Houston
DT – Kelly
DT – Seymour
RDE – Shaughnessy
LOLB – Wimbley
MLB – McClain
ROLB – Scott
LCB – Asomugha
SS – Branch (Mitchell?)
FS – Huff ( Branch?)
RCB – Johnson
That looks like a REALLY GOOD DEFENSE to me!
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Still no run stuffing DT…..we can get by with it I guess but getting a real run stuffer like Haynesworth or Rogers is mandatory if we want to be elite
April 24th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
AD has been good after the first round “most years”? lol. Surely not the past 7.
: you’re an idiot. look at the defense and count how many of those starters were drafted AFTER the first round by your favorite grandpa. hint, its A LOT!!!! and there are some good players on defense. look at the offense, ZACK MILLER< Louis MURPHY, chaz schilens, michael bush, thats 5 starters on offense ALONE that are good that were picked AFTER round 1. class dismissed old man
April 24th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
and they hate kiffin in tennessee
April 24th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
If Russell was the worst thing on this team, as many suggest, then that means Kiffin by default was the best asset this team has had in the first few years considering he didn’t want Russell, and he was vocal about it. Source: Al DAvis.
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No Kiffin wasnt the best asset for the team when here…actually it was Cable and his soft ass ZBS……run game was best part of Kiffin’s stay
April 24th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
# manassamauler Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
AD has been good after the first round “most years”? lol. Surely not the past 7.
: you’re an idiot. look at the defense and count how many of those starters were drafted AFTER the first round by your favorite grandpa. hint, its A LOT!!!! and there are some good players on defense. look at the offense, ZACK MILLER< Louis MURPHY, chaz schilens, michael bush, thats 5 starters on offense ALONE that are good that were picked AFTER round 1. class dismissed old man
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Ouch what a ROAST!!!!
April 24th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
# 24 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
SnB – Houston playing LDE is the base position for lining up over the TE. I’m looking at it as if I was looking at the back of the defense. Shaughnessy was great last year and with Warren getting let go, I believe the team felt Seymour was better on the inside and against the run. I think the team wants more speed on the outside and Houston/Shaughnessy fit that role.
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Lamarr Houston isnt a speed rusher
April 24th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
# Kirk Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
24 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
This is the defense…
LDE – Houston
DT – Kelly
DT – Seymour
RDE – Shaughnessy
LOLB – Wimbley
MLB – McClain
ROLB – Scott
LCB – Asomugha
SS – Branch (Mitchell?)
FS – Huff ( Branch?)
RCB – Johnson
That looks like a REALLY GOOD DEFENSE to me!
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Still no run stuffing DT…..we can get by with it I guess but getting a real run stuffer like Haynesworth or Rogers is mandatory if we want to be elite
: rodgers will def not show up. haynes will probably come here. will give up aso to get him. hope he “feels” like playing well. he didnt do anything in wash last year after he got paid
April 24th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
We gotta STOP moving players,imo…
Shaunessy did a good job behind Ellis last year as a rookie….Its very hard for a DE to switch sides,imo
April 24th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Imagine how far ahead our passing game would be if Kiffin were allowed to make decisions regarding offensive personnel?
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We’d be at the end of the Lady Quinn era instead of the the end of the Jamarcus Russell era.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Manassa you forgot about starting WLB Trevor Scott and Starting Safety Tyvon Branch
April 24th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Regarding this delusional theory that Al Davis drafts well after the first round, I’m basing my rejection of it on the RESULTS of the past 7 years. Do you mean that the players he drafts after round one sell more jerseys? What did you mean by saying he does well? Surely not winning seasons, because in the past 7 years, there’s been none.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
We gotta STOP moving players,imo…
Shaunessy did a good job behind Ellis last year as a rookie….Its very hard for a DE to switch sides,imo
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4eva…..RDEs are not big ass 300 lbers…usually the bigger DEs are on the left side but our dumbasses havent followed this since we got that waste of space named Derrick Burgess
April 24th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
the first rookie free agent.
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2010/4/24/1442504/udrfa-de-alex-daniels-sign-with
April 24th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
# jhill Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Imagine how far ahead our passing game would be if Kiffin were allowed to make decisions regarding offensive personnel?
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We’d be at the end of the Lady Quinn era instead of the the end of the Jamarcus Russell era.
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Yup….damn and I was advocate for Quinn…smh……….SAMSONITE i was way off!!!
April 24th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
Lamarr Houston isnt a speed rusher
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I think the former RB/DE will drop back down to around 285 or so. He was asked to play DT out of need at Texas Mack Brown said.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
That’s possible, JHill. But we don’t know that. We do know, on the other hand, that
a) Russell has held this team back (according to those most critical of him)
b) Kiffin didn’t want him.
I’m working with facts.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
chaz schliens is one of my favorite AD picks. 7th round pick!!!, 6′4″ good speed, catches everything close to him. thats our number 1 WR IF he can stay on the field IMO. classic AD pick, real gem.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Kiffin does have a good eye for talent, but was in over his head as HC in the NFL, and especially not prepared for dealing with a GM/Owner dynamic. Getting it right with Russell doesn’t make him a GOD as MaddenRaider would suggest. To consider a comparison between Kiffin and Davis only shows your ignorance.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
# jhill Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
Lamarr Houston isnt a speed rusher
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I think the former RB/DE will drop back down to around 285 or so. He was asked to play DT out of need at Texas Mack Brown said.
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Well let’s hope so
April 24th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
That’s possible, JHill. But we don’t know that. We do know, on the other hand, that
a) Russell has held this team back (according to those most critical of him)
b) Kiffin didn’t want him.
I’m working with facts.
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Russell is hated here in the Bay Area….he outta be glad Jason Campbell was traded to Oakland…otherwise his knee was gonna meet a lead pipe by yours truly
April 24th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
24 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
This is the defense…
LDE – Houston
DT – Kelly
DT – Seymour
RDE – Shaughnessy
LOLB – Wimbley
MLB – McClain
ROLB – Scott
LCB – Asomugha
SS – Branch (Mitchell?)
FS – Huff ( Branch?)
RCB – Johnson
That looks like a REALLY GOOD DEFENSE to me!
………………………………….what if these guys get cut dont make the 53 man roster
April 24th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
the 2nd rookie free agent.
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2010/4/24/1442468/udrfa-fb-manase-tonga-of-byu-signs
April 24th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
April 24th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
GREAT ARTICLE Jerry!!! It must’ve felt good to write. Ladies and Gentleman… we have hope! Justified Hope! And it’s about time.
Go Raiders!
April 24th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
SnB…
I don’t recall you saying they had a “huge” nose tackle either, but was quoting you when you were asking why we didn’t have a big nose tackle like the Giants do.
The fact is, the size of their d-line isn’t that much different than ours, and our biggest guys are about the same size as their biggest guys. You mentioned penetrator-types and all that, too, and that’s more assignment-based than anything.
Our linebackers can blitz like theirs do, and are bigger. Also a factor in the run game.
It’s a different approach than maybe you’d like, but it is what it is and other teams have had success stopping the run that way.
I think you might be pleasantly surprised.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
Was babbling with someone earlier on here and they floated the idea of no particular position for any of our Dline guys. Seymour could line up at any one of the 4 positions at any given time. Same with Kelly, Houston, or Shaugnessy.
I like the idea of moving guys around.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
# blackdeath29 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
the 2nd rookie free agent.
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2010/4/24/1442468/udrfa-fb-manase-tonga-of-byu-signs
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Yeah we got a fukin Islander!!!! This guy smashes people like a FAWKIN BAUCE!
April 24th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Regarding this delusional theory that Al Davis drafts well after the first round, I’m basing my rejection of it on the RESULTS of the past 7 years. Do you mean that the players he drafts after round one sell more jerseys? What did you mean by saying he does well? Surely not winning seasons, because in the past 7 years, there’s been none.
: how is it delusional? are those late round picks i mentioned not good players? you cant argue that. AD failed to find a QB, thats his biggest mistake, that and signing ok players to crazy contracts. his draft picks rounds 2-7 have been good overall. good players.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
I’m “GEEKED!”
April 24th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
did we sign alan faneca yet
April 24th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Tonga Raider to open holes for Bush and DMAC….Raiders have been soft for too damn long…..time to stop that!
April 24th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
VaRaider, maybe Kiffin was in over his head because he could see something plain as day that Al DAvis was incapable of seeing. Let’s say you’re a fireman. You get to a fire, and your chief, instead of getting a hose, gets a flame thrower. What do you do? Sometimes you have to think outside of the box and stand up to management to help your organization succeed. That’s what Kiffin tried to do. What you call Kiffin being over his head, I call Kiffin being the only voice of reason amongst Al’s lackeys.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Manase Tonga gonna knock you da fuk out!
April 24th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Oh, and another thing. I’m as critical of Jerry McDonald as anyone, but I think he did a fantastic job covering the run-up to the draft as well as the draft itself.
My hat is off to you, sir, and thank you.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
a) Russell has held this team back (according to those most critical of him)
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I’d add a few more names to this whose play on the field was just as offensive as Russell’s off the field antics.
Glad to see us move on from ALL the BS including Cornell Green, Kirk Morrison, and apparently Whiffio Henderson.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Tonga Raider to open holes for Bush and DMAC….Raiders have been soft for too damn long…..time to stop that!
………………………………………….not bush he was a bad president
April 24th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
VaRaider, maybe Kiffin was in over his head because he could see something plain as day that Al DAvis was incapable of seeing. Let’s say you’re a fireman. You get to a fire, and your chief, instead of getting a hose, gets a flame thrower. What do you do? Sometimes you have to think outside of the box and stand up to management to help your organization succeed. That’s what Kiffin tried to do. What you call Kiffin being over his head, I call Kiffin being the only voice of reason amongst Al’s lackeys.
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LOL Mike Williams was a reasonable trade eh? Josh McCown?……..74 yard field goals?
April 24th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
I’ll say it again, Al DAvis could NOT have had any good drafts in the past 7 years, 1st round or otherwise, because the RAiders have sucked for the past 7 years. If you want to bring up good DAvis drafts from 35 years ago, be my guest. Although I’d have to throw Ron Wolf’s name in there as counsel Al likely conferred to.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
I agree with that Br ien RDE are mostly smaller,faster. Shaunessy is only 270 but seems to get the job done.I would at least like 2C Shaunessy at LDE 1 more year B4 we make him change sides
April 24th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
# jhill Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
a) Russell has held this team back (according to those most critical of him)
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I’d add a few more names to this whose play on the field was just as offensive as Russell’s off the field antics.
Glad to see us move on from ALL the BS including Cornell Green, Kirk Morrison, and apparently Whiffio Henderson.
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Mario Henderson is your starting LT and will will help block for a real QB…….teamw ill be inspired to have a legit chance to win….thanks
April 24th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
Make a deal for Haynesworth and the D is set.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
49ers add LeGarrette Blount, Jarrett Brown
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 24, 2010 8:31 PM ET
The benefit of going undrafted is that you can choose your team. Oregon running back LeGarrette Blount appears to have chosen well.
The controversial runner will be a San Francisco 49er, according to the Sacramento Bee. He joins sixth-round pick Anthony Dixon and Glen Coffee as possible backups to Frank Gore. Michael Robinson is also there, and we could see the 49ers carrying four tailbacks. Compared to most NFL rosters, Blount has a good chance to stick in San Francisco.
The 49ers also agreed to terms with West Virginia quarterback Jarrett Brown, according to Matt Maiocco of the Santa Rosa Press Democrat. Brown is developmental prospect, but has a huge arm and good mobility. He could be ticketed for the 49ers practice squad as a fourth quarterback.
San Francisco also agreed to terms with Florida return man LeRoy Vann.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
# LT_Raider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
Make a deal for Haynesworth and the D is set.
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Exactomundo
April 24th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
Yes we get a samoan full back, he must be a beast. Get OGBrandon Carter the Raiders fan! or OG Ciron Black
April 24th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
FB Manase Tonga
RG Alex Parsons
Look like very good UDFA pickups to me.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Manassa you forgot about starting WLB Trevor Scott and Starting Safety Tyvon Branch
: branch is a pro bowl caliber Safety NOW. will be our SS or FS starter for many years i would think. scott shaunessy, howard was a starter for years, morrison for years. lot of starters that were good that were drafted after round 1. those first round picks and crazy free agent signings have set us back. BUT AD has cleaned it up for 2 years now. looking good. keep it up
April 24th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
All I said was that Kiffin saw a different Russell than DAvis saw, didn’t want him, and Al took him anyway. Kiffin was right.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
we needed a FB. great signing. and a RG. another need. looking good
April 24th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
LT_Raider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
Make a deal for Haynesworth and the D is set.
what if haynesworth is a cancer in the locker room like randy moss
April 24th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
I agree with that Br ien RDE are mostly smaller,faster. Shaunessy is only 270 but seems to get the job done.I would at least like 2C Shaunessy at LDE 1 more year B4 we make him change sides
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Hmmmmmmmm nah I’d prefer using that quickness vs NFL LTs….Seymour needs to go up against the RT
April 24th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
All I said was that Kiffin saw a different Russell than DAvis saw, didn’t want him, and Al took him anyway. Kiffin was right.
: lot of people questioned picking russell. is there a point to anything you say here old timer?
April 24th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
I don’t understand signing an end. We have a lot of ends and not enough tackles. Bring in Tony Washington and Jay Ross too.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
To MaddenRaider, your schtick is getting old and is as see through as cellophane. You spend so much time in here, just enjoy the day, it’s a good day in Raider Nation, no one can argue with that.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
# fat kidd Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
LT_Raider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
Make a deal for Haynesworth and the D is set.
what if haynesworth is a cancer in the locker room like randy moss
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What if other guys on the team are? Sorry we are building something here…..more positivity has been going on with this team. They ready to win. Albert will love Oakland if he comes
April 24th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Mario Henderson is your starting LT
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I think they like that 3rd rd pick to win the job. Cable already said he’s the #3 OT on the depth chart behind Henderson and Barnes, and he expects him to win a starting job.
Walker or Barnes will be on the startigng 5 too. And I’m sure there is a plan for Hercules.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
fat kidd Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
LT_Raider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
Make a deal for Haynesworth and the D is set.
what if haynesworth is a cancer in the locker room like randy moss
: good chance haynes would half ass it here. he already got his payday, didnt do anything in wash. might be a dumb move. I’d pass
April 24th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Carter or Ciron Black as RG unless they are convinced Campbell or Veledheer can cut it there.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
# Roch R Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
To MaddenRaider, your schtick is getting old and is as see through as cellophane. You spend so much time in here, just enjoy the day, it’s a good day in Raider Nation, no one can argue with that.
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No its not for MR!!!! He wants Jeff Garcia to QB
April 24th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
maybe playing next to seymour would motivate haynesworth? it could work out
April 24th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
MR what is your special relationship with Kiffin? You miss the late nite creeps with each other? Kiffin at USC…. Gone now
April 24th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
jhill Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Mario Henderson is your starting LT
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I think they like that 3rd rd pick to win the job. Cable already said he’s the #3 OT on the depth chart behind Henderson and Barnes, and he expects him to win a starting job.
Walker or Barnes will be on the startigng 5 too. And I’m sure there is a plan for Hercules.
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Hercules is Gallery’s replacement as soon as he goes down for thwe season!
April 24th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
# manassamauler Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
maybe playing next to seymour would motivate haynesworth? it could work out
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Haynesworth works period in Oakland…..We want bad asses on defense
April 24th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
RMR,
I asked you a question earlier and you left without answering it, so I’ll ask it again: Where and when did I defend Al’s honor?
I stated that Kiffin didn’t want JR (and neither did I), but Al did, so Al drafted him anyway. Kiffin acted childish and tried to get fired. I liked Kiffin as a coach, but he didn’t try to win with us, he just gave up and tried to find a way out because he didn’t like the circumstances… but I wish that he HAD tried and that he was still our HC.
Where in any of that (or any of what I said earlier) am I, as you put it, defending Al’s honor? I’m not. I never wanted JR and neither did Kiffin… and time has proven us both right… but he acted like a child.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
# Roch R Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
To MaddenRaider, your schtick is getting old and is as see through as cellophane. You spend so much time in here, just enjoy the day, it’s a good day in Raider Nation, no one can argue with that.
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No its not for MR!!!! He wants Jeff Garcia to QB
: fakemaddenraider thinks jeff garcia would lead us to the promised land!!! too bad garcia is more fragile than Fakemaddenraiders little psyche.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Haynesworth has character issues!!! Great I say. I want a mean bastard who wants to map nighas on the field
April 24th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
We don’t need Haynesworth or Gaither …
Jamal Brown, maybe!
Isn’t there a big fat dude we can sign as undrafted FA?
Do you really think Kelly, Bryant, and Seymour aren’t going to ge the majority of the snaps at DT?
April 24th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Roch,..you must not know MR very well,..he thrives on unhappiness, misery,…hes the younger paler version of old man kell,…but both wake up mad and bitter,..some people are just like that,..theyre the ones thet never get invited to cool parties and social events. Word….its a great Raider weekend Source: Al Davis.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
I think it’s unfair to say that Haynesworth did nothing last season. Look at the production around him. Do you think Orakpo and Carter have anywhere near the seasons they did in 2009 without Haynesworth in the middle?
Don’t like the guy’s attitude, but hey, he gets results.
While I think we’d be a better defense with Haynesworth, by the looks of this draft I have faith that Mike Waufle has a plan for the defensive line. The Raiders have some talent, and I think if Waufle implements a system where our best players can move around and create mismatches, it’ll make the most of the players on the roster.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Return of Godliness, Manassamauler, VARaider,
Here’s Kiffin’s contact information, so that you guys can apologize to him for being so harsh on him, and tell him he was right all along about Russell.
(213) 740-4190
http://www.usctrojans.com/school-bio/usc-00athdept.html
April 24th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
Br ien….
At 6-6 you would think Seymour would play LDE.He doesnt and didnt in NE….I dont know why billacheat didnt use him at LDE or at South Carolina?….
Keep Shonasty at LDE and Sey at RDE,imo
April 24th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
got some RG rookie and this guy:
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2010/4/24/1442340/oakland-raiders-sign-udfa-wr-trent
he was shot in the back before
April 24th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/
April 24th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
# SteveAlford21 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
RMR,
I asked you a question earlier and you left without answering it, so I’ll ask it again: Where and when did I defend Al’s honor?
I stated that Kiffin didn’t want JR (and neither did I), but Al did, so Al drafted him anyway. Kiffin acted childish and tried to get fired. I liked Kiffin as a coach, but he didn’t try to win with us, he just gave up and tried to find a way out because he didn’t like the circumstances… but I wish that he HAD tried and that he was still our HC.
Where in any of that (or any of what I said earlier) am I, as you put it, defending Al’s honor? I’m not. I never wanted JR and neither did Kiffin… and time has proven us both right… but he acted like a child.
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Exactly….Jake Grove said himself he gave up on the team before the Denver matchup on MNF
April 24th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
(213) 740-4190 is disconnected!
April 24th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
you brian,…you think JC will keep his 17?…not go for 12?
April 24th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
# manassamauler Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
maybe playing next to seymour would motivate haynesworth? it could work out
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Haynesworth works period in Oakland…..We want bad asses on defense
: what was badass about haynes in wash? he had a great year in 2008 which happened to be a contract year. good chance haynes comes here but we’ll give up aso to get him. hope he shows up to play.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Hey, did you guys know that we drafted a guy named “Justin” Veldheer? Nice spot-on journalism, Jerry!
I’m sure the Raiders owner, Andrew Davis, appreciates your accuracy!
April 24th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Yo, not you.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Return of Godliness, Manassamauler, VARaider,
Here’s Kiffin’s contact information, so that you guys can apologize to him for being so harsh on him, and tell him he was right all along about Russell.
(213) 740-4190
http://www.usctrojans.com/school-bio/usc-00athdept.html
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No he needs to apologize first for Josh McCown starting…Mike Williams playing and Justin Farglass starting over Dominic Rhodes
April 24th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
you brian,…you think JC will keep his 17?…not go for 12?
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Campbell 17
April 24th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Unsure really what the love and pining for Kiffin MR is trippin on,..however, Im still crushed over Gruden gone,..but Kiffin?…not worth missing…he is an ahole and will last about a year and a half at USC.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
I like the pieces we have in place, this team has potential to be well rounded, you can’t know how much the upgrade at the QB position is going to mean to this team. I mean look at what Gradkowski did, now you have Campbell.
Alot of needs got addressed in the last few days, and the SnB article on the Tonga kid at Full back is exciting.
If the is in games, you know Seymour will get his motor running, and Shawnessy had a great rookie year, and Bryant showed great flashes inside.
McClain can’t help but be an upgrade to Morrison.
I think the O-line improves with a QB that can get distribute the ball early, gets those short completions. Bush will get alot more touches this year and McFadden should have the chance to burn, as change of pace back.
They addressed KR, the brought in more bodies in the secondary to shore up the nickel and the other side of Nnamdi, and we’re stacked at Safety.
ALOT of hope this year.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Return of Godliness, Manassamauler, VARaider,
Here’s Kiffin’s contact information, so that you guys can apologize to him for being so harsh on him, and tell him he was right all along about Russell.
(213) 740-4190
http://www.usctrojans.com/school-bio/usc-00athdept.html
: you have mental problems old man!!! i dont care if kiffin didnt like russell!!! kiffin is a buster!!! he busted out of oakland and ran out on T. a lot of us were unsure about russell. not that much of a revelation.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
RMR,
Please show me when and where I defended Al’s honor, as you accused me of so doing earlier.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
And why cant kiffin go to work without his daddy around anyway?..what is he a little baby that is afraid he will get beat up if his dad isnt there with him?…weird.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Return of Godliness, Manassamauler, VARaider,
Here’s Kiffin’s contact information, so that you guys can apologize to him for being so harsh on him, and tell him he was right all along about Russell.
(213) 740-4190
http://www.usctrojans.com/school-bio/usc-00athdept.html
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No he needs to apologize first for Josh McCown starting…Mike Williams playing and Justin Farglass starting over Dominic Rhodes
: hahahaah kiffin signed mik williams!!!! what a dummy. josh mccown!!!LOL kiffin is a buster
April 24th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
you brian,…you think JC will keep his 17?…not go for 12?
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Jonathan Holland finally has a chance to do something productive for the team — he can give up #17!!!!
April 24th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
# manassamauler Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
# manassamauler Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
maybe playing next to seymour would motivate haynesworth? it could work out
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Haynesworth works period in Oakland…..We want bad asses on defense
: what was badass about haynes in wash? he had a great year in 2008 which happened to be a contract year. good chance haynes comes here but we’ll give up aso to get him. hope he shows up to play.
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Did you forget about 2007?
April 24th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d817c634a&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
Undrafted guys, I think Charles Alexander is a NT.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
He played well in other years as well Mannasa
April 24th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
brian, is MR really what you said he is?…Im watching that movie, the 40 year old virgin, thats what reminded me of what you said about MR.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
Looks like Wauffle is trying to rebuild the Giants DL West in Oaktown. I am sure he knows what he is doing. We got a bunch of big guys now in our front 7.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
# manassamauler Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
# manassamauler Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
maybe playing next to seymour would motivate haynesworth? it could work out
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Haynesworth works period in Oakland…..We want bad asses on defense
: what was badass about haynes in wash? he had a great year in 2008 which happened to be a contract year. good chance haynes comes here but we’ll give up aso to get him. hope he shows up to play.
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Did you forget about 2007?
: well as long as his guaranteed $ is paid we can trade our lockdown corner, cut tommy kelly and bring him in. should be interesting.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Bob! Brian!
Well, we didn’t get Haynesworth or Gaither (yet) and didn’t get John Conner (FB from Kentucky), but overall, I’m pleased with the past three days.
I really don’t like Jason Campbell, but any chance for improvement is welcomed. Now we can finally do what I’ve been asking for the past two years… convert JaMarcus to LT (if he can improve his footwork) or DT (if he can learn how to take someone else with him when he falls down… which is doubtful, considering that he can’t even keep hold of a football when he falls).
April 24th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
I agree with that Br ien RDE are mostly smaller,faster. Shaunessy is only 270 but seems to get the job done.I would at least like 2C Shaunessy at LDE 1 more year B4 we make him change sides
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Hmmmmmmmm nah I’d prefer using that quickness vs NFL LTs….Seymour needs to go up against the RT
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Quickness? Thats not Shaughnessy. One reason he fell on draft boards is because he rarely beat anyone off the snap. Gets a rolling start.
Working on it but he is not quick.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
brian, niner preseason game,..hang with me in row 1,..it wont matter we get ejected by 2nd quarter,..only preseason.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Gerard Warren signs with the Patriots …
What is with this Belechik dude picking up all our old players? Is he looking for another “Randy Moss”?
April 24th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
JASON CAMPBELL clap clap clap clap clap!
April 24th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
Enough about Kiffin already! So, he was right about JaLoser — big deal, there were a lot of people who didn’t want him and understood early that he didn’t want to play, he just wanted to get paid. He’s gonna get torched at USC, just wait and see. Al will sit back and smile when lance gets replaced after five years.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Return of Godliness, Manassamauler, VARaider,
Here’s Kiffin’s contact information, so that you guys can apologize to him for being so harsh on him, and tell him he was right all along about Russell.
(213) 740-4190
http://www.usctrojans.com/school-bio/usc-00athdept.html
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MR, you call him and ask him for a date since you’re so in love with him. Let it go already.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
russell should be left alone in the hood, so the local raider fans can show him how they feel about him. hey now.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
He played well in other years as well Mannasa
: i hope that de dominates when he comes here. i dont mind being wrong, i just question free agent signings like this, they DON’T work out the majority of the time. Just how it hasn’t worked out AT ALL for the redskins but they’ve already paid him off.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
MR and his crush on kiffin is pretty disturbing,..you ok MR?…we know youre here reading these posts,..dont be scared to chime in. lol
April 24th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Nay sayers be dammmed. Its a good day to be a Raider and its been too long since I’ve been able to say that.
I’m going to enjoy.
Those of you who wnat to nit pick, have at it.
Raider Nation!
April 24th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Gerard Warren now joins Derrick Burgess … for a change, Patriots get to take out our garbage, rather than cash in our chips!
April 24th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
I agree with that Br ien RDE are mostly smaller,faster. Shaunessy is only 270 but seems to get the job done.I would at least like 2C Shaunessy at LDE 1 more year B4 we make him change sides
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Hmmmmmmmm nah I’d prefer using that quickness vs NFL LTs….Seymour needs to go up against the RT
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Quickness? Thats not Shaughnessy. One reason he fell on draft boards is because he rarely beat anyone off the snap. Gets a rolling start.
Working on it but he is not quick.
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LOL just stop buddy ok….Shaughnessy is quicker than seymour and was seen as a quick DE going into the draft….I stand by what I say….He dropped due to his slow 40 time
April 24th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Maddenraider has been driven to insanity and crying fits, uncontrollable temper tantrums. Source: Al Davis
April 24th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
# manassamauler Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
He played well in other years as well Mannasa
: i hope that de dominates when he comes here. i dont mind being wrong, i just question free agent signings like this, they DON’T work out the majority of the time. Just how it hasn’t worked out AT ALL for the redskins but they’ve already paid him off.
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Washington is a bigger joke than we have been…..He cant wait to leave that dump
April 24th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
new england has are first round pick next year at least it wont be the very first pick
April 24th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
MR,..maybe you can call old fatboy kell for support,..isnt it funny that the two biggest crybabies in here only support each other and everyone else knows all they are are crybaby girls?…hang in there MR….the raiders will get better, not you though.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
Norco…he is double upset….Kiffin gone and his long lost love Garcia isnt our QB
April 24th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
Nnamdi,
I’m not nitpicking, I just refuse to be content and stop seeking to improve just because we had a great three days. There are still some items that need to be addressed and I won’t sing and dance until they’re all done. I will say this, though:
Go Raiders!!!!!!! Great draft (with the exception of NOT getting FB Conner and OT Wang)!!! Here’s looking forward to a season over .500!!!
April 24th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Fat kidd,…youre Jamarcus right?…cya.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
redskins are bringing in a hall of fame coach. even though i cant stand the guy and haynes complains about a 3-4 defense.!!LOL
April 24th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Shaughnessy is good on outside contain — turn ‘em back in so that Seymour and the new beast McClain can tear ‘em down. I predict that Houston’s gonna have a fair share of sacks this year. Wimbley will finally come into his own. Defense will improve to top 15 in the league.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Where is BHP and Kell…………where are all the Russell wide load ass kissers at?
YOUR BOY IS DONE BHP
April 24th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
# raidertbone Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Shaughnessy is good on outside contain — turn ‘em back in so that Seymour and the new beast McClain can tear ‘em down. I predict that Houston’s gonna have a fair share of sacks this year. Wimbley will finally come into his own. Defense will improve to top 15 in the league.
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I agree if we get rogers or haynesworth
April 24th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
brian MR has been gone for years,…hes been in here crying since I popped in here,…him and fatboy old kell love to whine about this and that,…they know of no other way of life.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Oh yeah, and this:
Playoffs in 2011, if not THIS year! If we can score 9 more points per game, the Defense will stay fresh for the whole game (no more three-and-outs on 90% of our offensive possessions) and we COULD be looking at the playoffs in ‘10.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/profiles/charles-alexander?id=496755#tabs:tab-analysis
Big strong guy. or Jay Ross
April 24th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
if we get haynesworth we better be a top 5 defense.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Norco Bob Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Fat kidd,…youre Jamarcus right?…cya.
i had a hamster named jamarcus but i sat on him
April 24th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Image is everything…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjDW37CIPh4&feature=related
April 24th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
Two McFaddens, two Campbells, now two Sateles?
April 24th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
# manassamauler Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
redskins are bringing in a hall of fame coach. even though i cant stand the guy and haynes complains about a 3-4 defense.!!LOL
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Hall of fame cheater…Broncos cheated from 96 to 98 thats why they got fined and then they got fined again for cheating a few years later
Haynesworth doesnt want to play in 3-4 because he cant make plays as the NT in that scheme….He is a 4-3 guy….people have a right to play where they really wanna play…..at least he is being honest
April 24th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
This is why we need more offensive linemen. Hopefully that UFA FB that we just signed can get the job done like I wanted from Conner. A great bruising FB behind an improved line can bring our Running Game back to prominence. Once we get back to a 66% run team, the games should win themselves. We just need to improve the OL some more and go back to power blocking and get a great FB.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
# SteveAlford21 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Oh yeah, and this:
Playoffs in 2011, if not THIS year! If we can score 9 more points per game, the Defense will stay fresh for the whole game (no more three-and-outs on 90% of our offensive possessions) and we COULD be looking at the playoffs in ‘10.
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We got a real QB and the team and whole Bay Area is glad Russell is gone
April 24th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
SteveAlford21 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Oh yeah, and this:
Playoffs in 2011, if not THIS year! If we can score 9 more points per game, the Defense will stay fresh for the whole game (no more three-and-outs on 90% of our offensive possessions) and we COULD be looking at the playoffs in ‘10.
we should have a winning record in our division. we should beat phyliss and the chokers this year. easier schedule too, IF campbell AND OUR OFFENSE overachieves we could challenge for a wild card.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
two sateles??? whom
April 24th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
JaLoser was ousted at last,
The Raiders got rid of their past;
When JaMarcus was cut,
To In-N-Out he did strut,
He just went in and got gassed!
April 24th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Please dont say playoffs,..old fatboy kell and MR will throw tantrums and cry and might do something drastic,…old fatboy kell will eat himself to death, little debbies,..MR might go have unprotected sex with jeff garcia as form of suicide. damn.
April 24th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Shonasty dropped because he didnt play his senior year because of a broken leg
April 24th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
raiders vs whiners saying sold out
April 24th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
# manassamauler Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
redskins are bringing in a hall of fame coach. even though i cant stand the guy and haynes complains about a 3-4 defense.!!LOL
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Hall of fame cheater…Broncos cheated from 96 to 98 thats why they got fined and then they got fined again for cheating a few years later
Haynesworth doesnt want to play in 3-4 because he cant make plays as the NT in that scheme….He is a 4-3 guy….people have a right to play where they really wanna play…..at least he is being honest
; what did he do in a 4-3 last year? nothing. mike shanarat coming in HOF QB signed and haynes complains publicly?
April 24th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
# SD_Raider_619 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
two sateles??? whom
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http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2010/4/24/1442643/rdrfa-mlb-de-brashton-satele
April 24th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Hey Steve that Tonga dude smashes folks with hardcore ferocity…we couldnt get Conner but got a good FB who will wanna slap LBs around
April 24th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
One Satele is one too many!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Jerry – You gave us Cable’s ‘quick hits”, and some quotes here. full transcript coming?
April 24th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Norco Bob Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Please dont say playoffs,..old fatboy kell and MR will throw tantrums and cry and might do something drastic,…old fatboy kell will eat himself to death, little debbies,..MR might go have unprotected sex with jeff garcia as form of suicide. damn.
up is own back is front, raiders have to make the playoffs at some point. we will have the best Defense in our division. should be fun.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Let’s hope something happens in Denver and Tim Tebow has to start this year … that would be classic!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
# manassamauler Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
# manassamauler Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
redskins are bringing in a hall of fame coach. even though i cant stand the guy and haynes complains about a 3-4 defense.!!LOL
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Hall of fame cheater…Broncos cheated from 96 to 98 thats why they got fined and then they got fined again for cheating a few years later
Haynesworth doesnt want to play in 3-4 because he cant make plays as the NT in that scheme….He is a 4-3 guy….people have a right to play where they really wanna play…..at least he is being honest
; what did he do in a 4-3 last year? nothing. mike shanarat coming in HOF QB signed and haynes complains publicly?
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Haynesworth did nothing? Explain that to me…now he didnt have a pro bowl impact but no one will in Washington with an idiot like Snyder around
Haynesworth production slacked some but you make it seem like he was awful….not the case
Yes he should complain if he doesnt want to play in 3-4…he wants to make plays and a 3-4 NT doesnt…get it?
April 24th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
I think Samson Satele can be a very adequate center for us with better guards around him. Or guards PERIOD, instead of Chris Morris and Langston Walker.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Thanks Y.A
April 24th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
You guys should try to see this from my perspective for a second… I used to live in D.C. Lots of my family still does. If my football fandom was spread into one trillion parts, there would be one part dedicated to the Skins with the rest belonging to my beloved Raiders… but that one part for Washington is powerful in its own right. I have grown a healthy hatred for Campbell over the past few years. Most of you act as if the only times you’ve seen him play was against US.
He is a vast improvement over JR, but I would rather have Troy Smith or Gradkowski starting… I just can’t get excited about Jason “I’d be on the bench if Suisam gave up punting duties and decided to take my job” Campbell.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
fat kidd Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
raiders vs whiners saying sold out
: whiners had a good draft too. they got a diva with mays though!!!! seachickens may have gotten better too though, nfc west is wide open.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Shonasty dropped because he didnt play his senior year because of a broken leg
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That too
April 24th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
VaRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Image is everything…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjDW37CIPh4&feature=related
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That made me sick to my stomach!!!!!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
# manassamauler Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
# manassamauler Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
redskins are bringing in a hall of fame coach. even though i cant stand the guy and haynes complains about a 3-4 defense.!!LOL
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Hall of fame cheater…Broncos cheated from 96 to 98 thats why they got fined and then they got fined again for cheating a few years later
Haynesworth doesnt want to play in 3-4 because he cant make plays as the NT in that scheme….He is a 4-3 guy….people have a right to play where they really wanna play…..at least he is being honest
; what did he do in a 4-3 last year? nothing. mike shanarat coming in HOF QB signed and haynes complains publicly?
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Haynesworth did nothing? Explain that to me…now he didnt have a pro bowl impact but no one will in Washington with an idiot like Snyder around
Haynesworth production slacked some but you make it seem like he was awful….not the case
Yes he should complain if he doesnt want to play in 3-4…he wants to make plays and a 3-4 NT doesnt…get it?
: why complain publicly? sounds like the bar has raised and haynes wants out. he got paid. but hey we run a 4-3 so we’ll have him on the roster soon.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Jason Campbell put up some pretty decent number last year with some terrible receivers and arguable a worse line than what we had here in Oakland last year.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Steve you said you would rather have troy smith or gradkowski over campbell?…youre strugglin bud.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Campbell will spend hours in the film room,..Russell never found it.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Bob,
I follow the Skins… and have watched EVERY game that Campbell has played. Behind the same offensive line, I would pick Smith or Grads. It’s just my opinion, but that’s how I feel.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Undrafted Free Agent Signings This is who we have signed so far
Raiders
Trent Guy, WR, Louisville
Manase Tonga, FB, BYU
Brashton Satele, LB, Hawaii
Alex Daniels, DE, Cinci
Alex Parsons, RG, USC
April 24th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Norco Bob Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Steve you said you would rather have troy smith or gradkowski over campbell?…youre strugglin bud.
: campbell is better than grad for sure. i like grad but hes limitied talent wise, campbell has the arm and mobility to lead the offense.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Bob,
You weren’t around much pre-draft, but I was really wanting to get a package deal for Gaither and Troy Smith from Balto.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/518163?tag=pageRow;pageContainer
Charles Alexander LSU get this guy if not him then Jay Ross.
He missed all but three games as a junior in 2007 with a knee injury after coming on strong as a sophomore. His strong return as a block-eating interior lineman got scouts’ attention.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
gradkowski is also injury prone.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
ok steve,..I guess,..youre way off though,…how many Norcos a day you take bro?
April 24th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
That FB Manase Tonga is from Oakland.
When I saw the movie Training Day and the drug boss knew what school Ethan Hawkes character went to, it reminded me of Davis.
I really hope we turn it around this year and chalk up more W’s than L’s, the old man deserves another title run.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Henderson and Campbell at tackles;
Gallery and Veldheer at guards;
Morris/Satele at center.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
BTW – I agree with the assessment of our NT situation. we don’t need a 400lb. guy but we need a clogger. Dez Bryant plays like a clogger but he’d need to have added 10-20lbs over the offseason. J Richardson plays like a clogger at DE. Maybe he’s going inside? There’s something we don’t know or else the Warren departure alone would’ve prompted some action at DT.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
And I’m quite pissed off that we made a deal with the Skins that DIDN’T include Haynesworth. He’s already gotten the biggest chunk of his massive contract, so if he is unmotivated, we can just cut him… but I at least want to TRY to get him in here and let the huge man in the middle clog up the running lanes so our shiny new MLB can clean up and finish the plays. We NEED a run-stuffing DT!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
If oakland was looking to get troy smith to be their starter they would be the only team trying that,..smith, like gradkowski, are backups Holmes.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
# SteveAlford21 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
You guys should try to see this from my perspective for a second… I used to live in D.C. Lots of my family still does. If my football fandom was spread into one trillion parts, there would be one part dedicated to the Skins with the rest belonging to my beloved Raiders… but that one part for Washington is powerful in its own right. I have grown a healthy hatred for Campbell over the past few years. Most of you act as if the only times you’ve seen him play was against US.
He is a vast improvement over JR, but I would rather have Troy Smith or Gradkowski starting… I just can’t get excited about Jason “I’d be on the bench if Suisam gave up punting duties and decided to take my job” Campbell.
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Gradkowski just cant win enough vs elite defenses
April 24th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
fat kidd Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Undrafted Free Agent Signings This is who we have signed so far
Raiders
Trent Guy, WR, Louisville
Manase Tonga, FB, BYU
Brashton Satele, LB, Hawaii
Alex Daniels, DE, Cinci
Alex Parsons, RG, USC
” CJ SPILLER!!! LOLOLOL
April 24th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
the skins are telling teams if they want haynesworth they have to pay them a big chunk of the money they just game him,…all teams saying no.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Russell is hated here in the Bay Area….he outta be glad Jason Campbell was traded to Oakland…otherwise his knee was gonna meet a lead pipe by yours truly
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Funny sh!t B….Al just saved you some county time!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
SteveAlford21 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
And I’m quite pissed off that we made a deal with the Skins that DIDN’T include Haynesworth. He’s already gotten the biggest chunk of his massive contract, so if he is unmotivated, we can just cut him… but I at least want to TRY to get him in here and let the huge man in the middle clog up the running lanes so our shiny new MLB can clean up and finish the plays. We NEED a run-stuffing DT!
: maybe wash didnt think aso was enough as trade bait
April 24th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Campbell will spend hours in the film room,..Russell never found it.
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JaLoser found the film room, all right — it just wasn’t football films!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Veldheer’s got better fet – he’s the RT
Campbell is the RG.
Cable already said this about both guys.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
undrafted free agents are Napa bodies,..period.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
# SteveAlford21 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
And I’m quite pissed off that we made a deal with the Skins that DIDN’T include Haynesworth. He’s already gotten the biggest chunk of his massive contract, so if he is unmotivated, we can just cut him… but I at least want to TRY to get him in here and let the huge man in the middle clog up the running lanes so our shiny new MLB can clean up and finish the plays. We NEED a run-stuffing DT!
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Yup
April 24th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
feet
April 24th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Yo
Bruce Gradkowski will win the QB derby
word
April 24th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
# SteveAlford21 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
You guys should try to see this from my perspective for a second… I used to live in D.C. Lots of my family still does. If my football fandom was spread into one trillion parts, there would be one part dedicated to the Skins with the rest belonging to my beloved Raiders… but that one part for Washington is powerful in its own right. I have grown a healthy hatred for Campbell over the past few years. Most of you act as if the only times you’ve seen him play was against US.
He is a vast improvement over JR, but I would rather have Troy Smith or Gradkowski starting… I just can’t get excited about Jason “I’d be on the bench if Suisam gave up punting duties and decided to take my job” Campbell.
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Gradkowski just cant win enough vs elite defenses
: yeah i like grad but no, hes also injury prone, wont even stay on the field. campbell should do well. he’s got the tools, could be a short term 2-3 year solution.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Russell is hated here in the Bay Area….he outta be glad Jason Campbell was traded to Oakland…otherwise his knee was gonna meet a lead pipe by yours truly
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Funny sh!t B….Al just saved you some county time!
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Bo…we got a Michigan guy huh?
April 24th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Post 234 is who we should get. I know this was probably posted earlier but McFadden actually seems like a descent pick.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1113521
He is a good man cover corner and is agressive.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Yo
Bruce Gradkowski will win the QB derby
word
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Never will that happen….We wanna toss the ball up the field and have a dynamic offense
April 24th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Yo
Bruce Gradkowski will win the QB derby
word
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What are you smoking? He can’t even lift weights without getting hurt!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
Norco Bob Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
the skins are telling teams if they want haynesworth they have to pay them a big chunk of the money they just game him,…all teams saying no.
: skins made one of the worst free agent signings ever and want another team to suffer too!!! LOL
April 24th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
we shall see
April 24th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Later brian,…hit me with a text if anything comes up,..and say hit to ol MR for me,..ya heard me MR?…its safe for you to return now. Word. Awesome Raider weekend…come say hi to me in row 1!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
We’ll just pick Haynesworth up later; nobody wants to pay that load for him right now … sounds like a certain quarterback I know!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Brian,
I can’t remember which game it was, so I’ll have to go back and watch… but there was one play where Grads threw the ball ACCURATELY and it went 55 yards in the air. That’s more than enough downfield threat capability. Grads took a lot of short shots because he HAD TO… but I think his arm is capable. Durability might be an issue… but that might have just been the fact that the line let him get hit an average of 53 times per game… and we only had 42 plays!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/584583?tag=pageRow;pageContainer
brandon carter
April 24th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
(I made up that hits per game and plays per game stat, but I thought it was funny)
April 24th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
jake locker coming out next year!! theres your franchise QB there. too bad we have no chance at getting him.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Gradkowski is a tough guy; he’s got a lot of guts and determination and a TON of heart … but then again, so did Justin Fargas!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
I still wished we had picked up either Skelton or Pike!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
What up Nation…Like I have been saying for weeks, we were going to have a logical draft….
I dont agree with all of the picks, we still have some holes in my opinion, but we at least addressed big needs.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
the skins are telling teams if they want haynesworth they have to pay them a big chunk of the money they just game him,…all teams saying no.
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If we go ahead and cut that lazy bast@rd Jamarcus Russell, it wouldn’t be no thang for Al to cough up a few more dollars to get Haynesworth and make us one of the top 3 defenses in the league.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Yeah who would want a 2-Time Super Bowl winner and future Hall-of-Famer when you could have a completely mediocre QB that Washington couldn’t wait to get rid of? What a joke.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
# SteveAlford21 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Brian,
I can’t remember which game it was, so I’ll have to go back and watch… but there was one play where Grads threw the ball ACCURATELY and it went 55 yards in the air. That’s more than enough downfield threat capability. Grads took a lot of short shots because he HAD TO… but I think his arm is capable. Durability might be an issue… but that might have just been the fact that the line let him get hit an average of 53 times per game… and we only had 42 plays!
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Pitt game
April 24th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
RB Andre Anderson (Tulane)
April 24th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
# Thec07 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
What up Nation…Like I have been saying for weeks, we were going to have a logical draft….
I dont agree with all of the picks, we still have some holes in my opinion, but we at least addressed big needs.
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Theculation, I’ll be in SD for the Raider game…My cousin boyfriend got signed as a UDFA out of Fresno st…and yes he will make the team! Craig Davis is bout to get the ax!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Called the Jason Campbell trade took a lot of heat from some of the professional bloggers… that was the best pick in this draft….
Hate that discgargers got cam thomas, hope he’s a bust…
April 24th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Dark Forces Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Yeah who would want a 2-Time Super Bowl winner and future Hall-of-Famer when you could have a completely mediocre QB that Washington couldn’t wait to get rid of? What a joke.
\: yeah but i dont think he was ever really on the market. i was hyped by that possibility too. would have been our best QB since the 70s.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
# Dark Forces Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Yeah who would want a 2-Time Super Bowl winner and future Hall-of-Famer when you could have a completely mediocre QB that Washington couldn’t wait to get rid of? What a joke.
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First off Ben is missing first four games and dont you realize if he gets another strike on him its a 1 year suspension? No way that would be an idiot move…..Campbell the man
April 24th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Campbell vs Grads is pretty close. campbell had 64% completions but was in a high percentage wco style system. Before that his stats were Grad-like. Grads has to stay healthy though.
After the jr experience there’s no way Campbell gets a free ride just because we used a 4th to get him. Yeesh A Walter was a 3rd. You guys act like Al sold his soul and signed Otto Graham. He signed a journeyman QB he got for a lowly 4th rd pick to a contract equal to Shane Lechlers. yeesh
It’ll be an open competition and that’s the best thing for the team.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Campbell an excellent redzone QB….how pitiful are we in the redzone? Thanks
April 24th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
We have to hook up then Bruh… Seyi right?
April 24th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
# Coach on Wheels Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Campbell vs Grads is pretty close. campbell had 64% completions but was in a high percentage wco style system. Before that his stats were Grad-like. Grads has to stay healthy though.
After the jr experience there’s no way Campbell gets a free ride just because we used a 4th to get him. Yeesh A Walter was a 3rd. You guys act like Al sold his soul and signed Otto Graham. He signed a journeyman QB he got for a lowly 4th rd pick to a contract equal to Shane Lechlers. yeesh
It’ll be an open competition and that’s the best thing for the team.
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And you know Campbell will win competition vs Grad! Al will make sure of it…we didnt trade for him to sit
April 24th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
ROG,
Here you go!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxOgpxVvR4E
April 24th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
# Dark Forces Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Yeah who would want a 2-Time Super Bowl winner and future Hall-of-Famer when you could have a completely mediocre QB that Washington couldn’t wait to get rid of? What a joke.
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First off Ben is missing first four games and dont you realize if he gets another strike on him its a 1 year suspension? No way that would be an idiot move…..Campbell the man
: lot of what ifs in there. or what if ben gets a chip on his shoulder and picks the raiders up and wins 2 superbowls here? huge risk though, we did great without trading for him.just makes you think
April 24th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
# Thec07 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
We have to hook up then Bruh… Seyi right?
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Seyi Ajirotutu….people are dumb for not drafting him but his phone rang crazy off the hook when draft was ending….at least half ofthe teams hit him up
Hell yeah bruh….i aint been to SD since 07, but the hoes out there be on this Bay appeal lol
April 24th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
jason campbell will win QB comp easily.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
# manassamauler Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
# Dark Forces Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Yeah who would want a 2-Time Super Bowl winner and future Hall-of-Famer when you could have a completely mediocre QB that Washington couldn’t wait to get rid of? What a joke.
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First off Ben is missing first four games and dont you realize if he gets another strike on him its a 1 year suspension? No way that would be an idiot move…..Campbell the man
: lot of what ifs in there. or what if ben gets a chip on his shoulder and picks the raiders up and wins 2 superbowls here? huge risk though, we did great without trading for him.just makes you think
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Ben in the Bay Area? Cali lifestyle? That close to Mexico and Vegas? No way no how can we take that risk
April 24th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
ROG,
Damn……I love that clip!!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
BTW we beat ben twice……and will kick his ass for a 3rd time this year
April 24th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Grads threw a more accurate deep ball than JR. He threw deep often in the Pitt game.
Whoever it is needs TIME and OPEN WRs.
Arm strength is not an issue.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Coach on wheels <——- The voice of reason.
What up coach, hope all is well. Give us a grade on the draft…
April 24th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Ray I do too!!!! Team was juiced and I give Grad credit he led the team. i like Grad as my backup and he just wants team to win at all costs
April 24th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
# Coach on Wheels Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Grads threw a more accurate deep ball than JR. He threw deep often in the Pitt game.
Whoever it is needs TIME and OPEN WRs.
Arm strength is not an issue.
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Russell only completed two deep balls ever in Oakland………… vs Bmore to Schilens in 08 and Murphy on a broken coverage vs SD last year
April 24th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
Hell yeah bruh….i aint been to SD since 07, but the hoes out there be on this Bay appeal lol
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The Bay is whats up. Great vibe, no place like it on earth….
April 24th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
Coach on Wheels Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Campbell vs Grads is pretty close. campbell had 64% completions but was in a high percentage wco style system. Before that his stats were Grad-like. Grads has to stay healthy though.
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Grad-like.? Campbell has been a 60% passer every year of his career except his rookie year…which was a Grad like 53% completion
April 24th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
Russell deep ball hangs in air too long…guy suck…correct 3 long balls……..forgot about Ashley Lelie vs Denver
April 24th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
we’ll do good with campbell. hes a legit nfl starter. redskins sucked for many reasons, but campbells stats are good, 3200 yds, 20 tds 15 ints last year with a horrible oline. look at jabuster, 3tds 11 ints and 50 fumbles!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
# Thec07 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
Hell yeah bruh….i aint been to SD since 07, but the hoes out there be on this Bay appeal lol
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The Bay is whats up. Great vibe, no place like it on earth….
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Going to game and hollerin at the charger, cuz they look right at them games…let em know “yeah I know Seyi…bz you wanna kick it 2nite?”…then I’ma receive that WAM then that WAP
WAM is wet ass mouth
WAP is wet ass pucci
LOLOLOLOL
April 24th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
# manassamauler Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
we’ll do good with campbell. hes a legit nfl starter. redskins sucked for many reasons, but campbells stats are good, 3200 yds, 20 tds 15 ints last year with a horrible oline. look at jabuster, 3tds 11 ints and 50 fumbles!
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I like your style Tibbs
April 24th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
we’ll beat SD this year.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
I only saw Campbell play in Wash about 6-7 times. He could be okay. It all depends on who fits into Hue’s system. Campbell, Grads or Boller – anybody is better than starting 2-7 with JaWalrus.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Bruce will be the starter opening day….He’s worked with hackett almost 3 years….I dont think J.C. can make up that much time by Sept.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Meant to put Charger BZIES lol
April 24th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Bruce will be the starter opening day….He’s worked with hackett almost 3 years….I dont think J.C. can make up that much time by Sept.
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You my patna and my Raider brother but i dont agree but you still can come to tailgates
April 24th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
# manassamauler Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
we’ll beat SD this year.
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Stomping them cats…if Russell didnt suck we sweep them last year
April 24th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
manassamauler Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
look at jabuster, 3tds 11 ints and 50 fumbles!
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Player Att Comp Yds Comp % Yds/Att TD TD% INT INT% Long Sck Sack/Lost Rating
JaMarcus Russell 246 120 1,287 48.8 5.2 3 1.2 11 4.5 86 33 207 50.0
April 24th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
That didn’t come out the way I wanted it to!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
we didnt trade for campbell to fill a roster spot. just cant see bruce beating campbell for the job, campbell is FAR more talented and has more experience.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
We just dis agree on this one br ien but I KNOW I can ALWAYS tailgate and then some,with you!!!!
if i could only get back home!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Have we announced we cut him yet? what a disgrace…
April 24th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
When Raiders coming to town all the opposing fans wives and girlfriends…even legal daughters bout to give up that WAM and that WAP!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
I just hope the best QB wins at the end of the day Br ien…just like you
April 24th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
we’ll go 4-2 in our division this year. sweep denver and split with SD and KC.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
# Thec07 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Have we announced we cut him yet? what a disgrace…
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Theculation….people up here are juiced my phone is blowing up!!! Ppl are in shock and are joyful to know Russell is outta here
April 24th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
WAM and WAP??
April 24th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
What would happen if JRUSS demanded a trade?
April 24th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
I just hope the best QB wins at the end of the day Br ien…just like you
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no man you just wanna win games and win titles like me
April 24th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
# r8eray Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
WAM and WAP??
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Wet ASS Mouth
Wet ASS Pucci
April 24th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
The news that JRUSS is gone should spike ticket sales upward….
April 24th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Thec
Dont make me laugh, demanded a trade hahaha
April 24th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
# Thec07 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
What would happen if JRUSS demanded a trade?
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You ever seen when a comedian makes a great joke?
April 24th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
#2 “demand” anything
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaaaaaaahahahaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
stop it hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
April 24th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Thec07 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
What would happen if JRUSS demanded a trade?
: I would laugh for about 2 hours, then we’d trade him for a pack of smokes and some beer.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
# Thec07 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
The news that JRUSS is gone should spike ticket sales upward….
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Many up here werent gonna renew if he was starting again
April 24th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Is everyone ok we didnt get a run stuffer? Maybe we get haynsworth?
April 24th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
# manassamauler Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Thec07 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
What would happen if JRUSS demanded a trade?
: I would laugh for about 2 hours, then we’d trade him for a pack of smokes and some beer.
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Even thats a steep price
April 24th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
Yep!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
# Thec07 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Is everyone ok we didnt get a run stuffer? Maybe we get haynsworth?
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Ill feel better when we get a run stuffer but so far so good
April 24th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
manassamauler Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
fat kidd Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Undrafted Free Agent Signings This is who we have signed so far
Raiders
Trent Guy, WR, Louisville
Manase Tonga, FB, BYU
Brashton Satele, LB, Hawaii
Alex Daniels, DE, Cinci
Alex Parsons, RG, USC
” CJ SPILLER!!! LOLOLOL
By Gary Mihoces, USA TODAY
USA TODAY continues its draft series by analyzing the : Cream of the crop among running backs
Clemson’s C.J. Spiller has many stats to match his status as the top-rated running back in this year’s draft. One especially grabs the attention of NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock.
“The number that stands out for me is 51 career touchdowns, 21 of which went for 50 or more yards,” says Mayock. “So he’s a big play waiting to happen.”
Spiller racked up those scores as a runner, receiver and kick-return man. He’ll leave it up to the team that selects him how they will put the ball in his hands.
“That’s going to be up to the coaches, what they think and how they use me,” says the 5-11, 196-pounder.
spiller, those coaches will have options aplenty. “I think he could fit on any team,” says Mayock. “But if you struggle manufacturing yards, you don’t get any big gulps of yards, he’s the kind of guy that can do it.”
By rushing 216 times last season for 1,212 yards and 12 touchdowns, he figures he demonstrated he is up to that.
“I proved that I can carry the ball 20 to 22 times a game and still last. I think I get stronger as the game goes on and get a better feel,” he says.
The Bills ignored obvious needs along the offensive line to add the most electrifying runner in the draft. Spiller gives coach Chan Gailey a multi-purpose weapon to feature in his spread offense to alleviate some of the pressure on the Bills’ suspect quarterbacks. While addressing the offensive line remains a priority, it’s hard to argue against the addition of a talented playmaker with the ability to score from anywhere on the field.
though, he can be a situational player who gives the offense big-play capability out of the backfield. He has a rare burst through the hole, and not many safeties can run him down once they lose the angle on him. He is a competitive runner who will fight for yards and has balance to bounce off hits and keep his feet to gain more yards. Spiller is apt to be the first back taken in the draft in spite of his lack of power and bulk.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
get your jason campbell jersey on order, he’ll be the starter for the next 2-3 years.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
I did think that was rather humourous…
April 24th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Have a GREAT Evening Nation
April 24th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
Russell sucks Russell sucks Russell sucks…….yeah I started that last year in Denver cuz it began on the 2nd deck where I was sitting with my grandfather…he hates sitting down by the endzone where i normally sit with the GREAT Norco Bob
April 24th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
picking CJ spiller at 8 would have been a dumbass pick. you cant draft another skill player high like that until you get some good olinemen. WOULD HAVE BEEN A NIGHTMARE PICK. might as well have taken byrant at 8. insane. would have set us back AGAIN!! I’m glad you didnt make the pick
April 24th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
begins today!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
manassamauler Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
get your jason campbell jersey on order, he’ll be the starter for the next 2-3 years.
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Not gonna make that mistake (#2) again!
Hopefully it’s not a mistake!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
Well anyways people its been a great … I got a few functions to hit up ya dig….Excellent day!!! Gotta take this nite to the max like a BAUCE!
Time to find a young 21 year old co-ed BZ who wants to give up that WAM and WAP
Take care my Raider brothers………..and JUST WIN!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
AT fatt kidd 5^
April 24th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
I’m not saying Campbell won’t win the job I just hope that the best player wins the job for a change. I like all the players that try hard but I want to see WINS! open competition Al! We want wins!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
What is not consideed is Jacoby Fords contribution to cj numbers. Teams had to accounht for both spiller and ford. Ford can shine just as bright as spiller, as he drew doubles, but is more dagerous than spiller in space….
April 24th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Take cared B…
April 24th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
ford will give our return game a spark.def
April 24th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Before I leave why does my black ass feel like listening to AC/DC?………..THUNDER AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH THUNDER!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Coach how are ya doing man? give us an assement of the draft…
April 24th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
“Who does #2 work for?” – Austin Powers
Not the Raiders!
April 24th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Just bought a block of lawn seats for ZZ TOP at Ironstone,..In Murphy`s,..August,…any of you Raider fans want to attend,…its on me,…huge asss party,..lots of wine,..pot…booze…and hot slutts….whos in?
April 24th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
Ford will be a threat from the slot out the gates…
April 24th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/518163?tag=pageRow;pageContainer
This could be our run stuffer if Al wants.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Jruss works for burger king
April 24th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
# Thec07 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Jruss works for burger king
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J-Russ IS the Burger King.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Hey Thec -
Best draft in years. B4 I got a man-crush on T Williams, I said on here McClain was our guy.
Houston surprises me but I like what Cable said about a scheme change
Grabbing Mr Veldheer ahead of BC rocked. Great move. especially since they got BC when he was a smart pick – in the 4th.
Ford – said they need PR/KR bingo
Trade for JC was nice.
Good special team picks late.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Coach on Wheels Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
“Who does #2 work for?” – Austin Powers
Or originally from the motion picture The Prisoner
April 24th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
,2007 mccfadden going to have a break out year,2008 mcfadden going to have a break out year,2009 mcfadden going to have a break out year ,2010 mcfadden going to have a break out year,well i wish he would break out already
April 24th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
walter McFadden may actually have an impact on defense. He is a physical tackler and a man coverage guy with good speed.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Finally a draft where we picked for need not speed.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Fat kidd McFadden was drafted in 08 not 07, he was good in 07.
April 24th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Fat Kidd LOL
Breakout man!
April 24th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Guy Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Fat kidd McFadden was drafted in 08 not 07, he was good in 07.
good for what?did i miss a year of football?
April 24th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
he was in college in 07 lol
April 24th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
i’d say DMAC could follow B Campbell if BC is a pulling guard but DMAC couldn’t keep up with him.
April 24th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
if fargas did not have a bad knee we would be better off with him than mcfadden
April 24th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Coach do we still need a bit 340 lb NT?
Would you run at Haynesworth?
April 24th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
Guy Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
he was in college in 07 lol
did he have a break out year
April 24th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Yeah coach I watched T. willims at the combine wanted him, and the center Pouncey…
April 24th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
Thec07 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Coach do we still need a bit 340 lb NT?
Would you run at Haynesworth?
i would use him as a rb he would be better tham dmac
April 24th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
I love our picks i think mcclain is going to be great as for russell i still belive him i think we need to sign a nose tackle and a running back we only have 2 backs
April 24th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
I’m thinking we still need a “clogger”. He can be 320 but has to be a point of attack guy – not a penetrator.
The only thing I can think is Dez Bryant (a 290 clogger) added 20bs or clogger J Richardson is going inside and bulked up.
April 24th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/518163?tag=pageRow;pageContainer
Is he a run clogger?
April 24th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
raiderchristian53 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
I love our picks i think mcclain is going to be great as for russell i still belive him i think we need to sign a nose tackle and a running back we only have 2 backs
get haynesworth use him like chicago used refrigerator perry ,he would be or leading rusher
April 24th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Wafle had Grady Jackson last time he was here but in NYG his big guys were only 320ish. Need to be able to clog though.
April 24th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
I’m still in shock.
What a day. Can’t believe Al pulled the trigger on the Campbell trade.
I think the tone of Cable’s press conference was out of respect for Gradkowski. Before the muscle injury a few weeks ago he was “the guy.”
Now, this will be Campbell’s team.
April 24th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
key Points already mentioned, therefore I must give credit to each of you:
Mr. Jason Campbell will lead us TD’s in the Red Zone like we have not seen since Mr. Marcus Allen.
Mr. Campbell will remind us of Mr. Gannon, he will be comeback player of the year and make the pro-bowl; remember he was drafted by coach Gibbs and he knows quarterbacks.
April 24th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Raider75 Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
I’m still in shock.
What a day. Can’t believe Al pulled the trigger on the Campbell trade.
I think the tone of Cable’s press conference was out of respect for Gradkowski. Before the muscle injury a few weeks ago he was “the guy.”
Now, this will be Campbell’s team.
yeah campbell will have a breakout year
April 24th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
time will tell…
April 24th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
having Jason will also mean we will not have to rush Mr. Gradkowski back, therefore we will still have a solid #2 QB in Bruce, he’s earned it.
Only QB question now is who will be our #3?
April 24th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
327. Stop with the man crush on Spiller. So f’in what? He had big college accolades ran for 3,547 yds and scored 32 TD’s on the ground in FOUR years.
Theres a guy already on the Raiders named Darren McFadden who had big college accolades ran for 4,590 and scored 41 TDs on the ground in THREE years.
Spiller’s smaller and a fraction slower too.
What makes you think he can do it if McFadden hasn’t?
Wait till this year…
April 24th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Guy – Not sure. He weighed 290 at the LSU pro day. if he is a point of attack guy he’d need to bulk up a bit. Kinda like Dez Bryant who looked good last year backing up Gerard Warren.
If Bryant rolls into OTAs at about 310, the riddle may be solved and I’ll be a prophet lol.
April 24th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
I’m out Nation…it’s been a long day!
Talk to you guys/gals tomorrow!
April 24th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
After all the ridicule I and others have done to this Raider front office…..I congratulate them for stepping the hell up and executed a good solid draft and picking up J Campbell to compete as the starting QB.
Now all that needs to be done is to COACH EM UP and COACH this players well!
April 24th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Read what they said, his ability to eat blockers will attract scouts Coach. Isn’t Dez a penetrator?
April 24th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Little worried with all this talk to Houston playing DE.
I see him playing DE in a 3-4 alignment, but not as a pass rushing DE in 4-3 alignments.
In a 4-3, his 3 tech should be allowed to give those guards hell in the inside with his excellent hand fighting skills!
I also see Houston being Kellys replacement next year if Kelly doesn’t step it up this year….because Kelly has a fat contract and he needs to produce this year or he is gone next year IMO.
April 24th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Run defense will be much better for two key reasons
#1- Mr. Rolando McClain will direct the defense, he will tackle better than any LB we have had since the 80’s, and he is not afraid to take on pulling guards who out weigh him by 50 lbs.
#2- w/ Jason Campbell leading our offense, we will be ahead early in many games therefore opponents will have to pass more against us to win. they will not be able to sit on a 7 pt lead and just run the clock out at the start of the second half. Our offense the last few years has had as much to do with our porous run defense as our front seven.
#3- w/ Mr. Seymour & Mr. Houston as well as Mr. Shaunessey Mr. Kelley & Mr. Bryant our front line will be stout against the run and with a lead our sacks will also increase by at least twenty this season.
#4 we will run a 4-3, a 3-4, a 5-2, even a 3-3 we will have so many defensive formations by the time the playoffs start, even Manning & Brady will fear Mr. Nnamdi Asomugha!
and Finally,
#5 C Johnson will not rush for a hundred yards against the Raiders on opening day, (nor will S. Jackson the following week)!
April 24th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Raiders4eve: Raiders run a 4-3, there is no NT.
SATANFEARS ALDAVIS: Clausen is far behind Campbell at this point. Raiders do not need another project.
Cable says there is an open competition, but common sense says otherwise: Jamarcus stays on the roster until the last possible day (before the last cut). After he turns down a contract re-negotiation, he gets cut, Campbell becomes the starter, and Russell sits at home for the season-probably forever.
This was a very good draft – don’t know how you can say otherwise.
April 24th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
The front office better hit those phones up hard to bring in a couple RB’s to compete for that 3rd RB spot and bring in a fat NT type of DT, and also bring in a few nasty Guards and maybe a Center from the rookie FA wire!
April 24th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
For those who say this wasn’t a good solid draft for the Raiders, then I say to those…..
What the heck did you want to make it a good draft??
Would you have rather see what happened last year again??
Wake up!
April 24th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Jraider
Raiders have the talent to run a 3-4, they listed L houston as DE, Groves as a LB, Wimbley as LB, Scott as LB. Jay Richardson is a perfect DE in 3-4 as well as Matt, of course we got Seymour. Only thing missing is a big guy in the middle.
Besides in 4-3, you have two DTs (Priesttj can explain it better then me), one DT plays the three technique, the other is a one gap penetrator. He usually dominates the guard and center. An NT would be a DT in the 4-3 but he would play the one gap and dominate opponents lines and at minimum allow his line backers to stop the run. Warren was good penetrator but he could never hold his blockers when it came to stop the run. Thats is why we need a big guy.
April 24th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
al davis did make the all draft picks ,a report from a nurse in oakland ca. says mr davis was feeling poorly just before the draft but was given an .I.V. of pure kamodoo dragons blood and responded nicely to the treatment,just moments before the draft a flying monkey entered the office with 40 times ,and mr davis went right to work.
April 24th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Raider’s Linebacker Corp consists of
Mr. McClain in the middle (yippee-kiy-yay, chris johnson)
the outside with Mr. Trevor Scott who was outstanding at the end of last season, Mr. Groves, Mr. Wimbley, and on passing downs- Mr. Howard, Special Teams specialist Mr. Isaiah Ekejiuba, with Mr. Norris, Mr. Nixon, Mr. Williams, and the other rookie Mr. Goethel competing for a back up and/or a starting spot on the roster.
We are deep at the LB position, deepest since, Super Bowl MVP-Mr. Martin, Mr. Squirek, & Mr. Hendricks were on the squad.
April 24th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
Charles alexander or Jay ross as that big guy please.
April 24th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Here’s a good question…
Which rookie/new jersey are you all gonna get?
Too many to choose from.
For me, choosing between…
J.Campbell, Veldheer, McClain, Houston, Goethel, at the moment.
April 24th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Can’t wait to head back home to Louisville for Derby next week and see our boy Bush cruising around the city. I’m sure he’s gonna be all smiles knowing a big payday is finally lurking around the corner after he puts together a monster season for the most improved team in the league. It’s a good day to bleed Silver&Black fellas. Ya’ll enjoy the weekend!
April 24th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
We need to keep Mr. Asomugha!
We should trade our 2011 2nd round pick for Haynesworth.
We have already lost our #1, therefore we might as well go for the Superbowl this season as there may not be a next season or a next draft.
(yeah, i know smarter heads will prevail and everyone will realize they would be stupidiots for sacrificing billions & millions for 2-5 percentage points, both players and owners will have to sacrifice something, elimination of the franchise tag for the best player who has earned his unrestricted free agency more than anyone is what it will cost the owners to get back 50+ % of the profits).
April 24th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
i will wait till they sign T.O.and get his jersey
April 24th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Mr. McClain or Mr. Campbell for me.
Does anyone know how much of a percentage the player or the team gets for each jersey sold?
Is it negotiated in the individual contract or is there a standard incorporated by the labor agreement?
April 24th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Have we signed any UFAs?
Is Lonyae Miller, RB, Fresno State still available?
Guy put up good numbers when Ryan Matthews was hurt. Don’t forget, Priest Holmes went undrafted after he was pushed aside in college at Texas for a guy named Ricky Williams. Barry Sanders rode the pine for awhile while Thurman Thomas did his thing at Ok State.
Miller would be a gem of a UFA signing.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
# r8eray Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
(213) 740-4190 is disconnected!
…………….
That’s the number they gave at USC’s website. I left the link, too. So try the athletic department number and leave him a voice mail. Tell him that he was right all along. We should get as many people as we can to do it. Prove that the Raider Nation does have class. Or, we can prove what everyone’s been saying about us, and pretend that Kiffin wasn’t the first person to call it that Russell was no good.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
good question raiderretribution. I wouldnt know. i think it’d have to be standard set rate league wide.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Bruce Campbell baby. So psyched that we got him in the 4th. I was on board with taking him at No. 8.
We’ll see. It’s not where you’re drafted. Just last year Louis Murphy was picked in the 4th and easily outperformed our No. 1 in DHB. Anquan Boldin was considered a reach in Round 2 several years ago and was the second WR taken by the Cards in that draft. Went on to have one of the best rookie seasons ever.
Campbell left school early thinking he’d be a Round 1 or Round 2 at worst pick. Mayock said he’d be the No. 1 o-line prospect next year if he stuck around for his senior season. He’s going to have a chip on his shoulder. He’s going to bring the athletic ability, strength, long arms and rock solid physique to Cable who I still consider a very good o-line coach. What a great pick.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
brian, is MR really what you said he is?…Im watching that movie, the 40 year old virgin, thats what reminded me of what you said about MR.
…………
lol. Watching Less than Zero. Robert Downey Jr.’s character reminds me of you.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Trade for Haynesworth.
Bring back Grady Jackson.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
And sign Mawae.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
afc championship game raiders vs ravens
April 24th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
GG,
I’m getting the player’s jersey that I always get… MINE.
I get the Authentic (Game Jersey) with my name and a new number. I have a home 29 (my number), a home 21 (in honor of Cliff, Nnamdi), and an away 24 (in honor of Willie, Woodson, others).
The Randy Moss trade is what finally broke me. I had two authentic Mosses (home, away), and the EQT storm jersey (silver). I had just gotten the storm jersey about two months before the trade and was furious that I had wasted all that money on those jerseys that were now useless… so I decided that I was going to get the expensive ones with MY name on them… because they’d never become useless… I’ll always be a Raider. This year, I might get a new number or maybe just a different color of a number that I already have. Either way, it’s a great day in the Raider Nation, baby.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Guy Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
walter McFadden may actually have an impact on defense. He is a physical tackler and a man coverage guy with good speed.
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And he’s considered best at Nickel corner lining up against slot WRs and covering those quick short to intermediate routes. Plus he’s a major ballhawk. Fills our biggest niche need by far in the secondary.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
On a side note: Really impressed with what the 49ers have done. Davis, Iupati, Mays, Blount as a UFA. Already had a good defense. That team is going to put a hurtin’ on some people. Who would’ve guessed that San Fran would turn into a smashmouth franchise in the mold of the Bears or Giants.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Our WR corp is
Mr. DHB,
Mr. Murphy,
Mr. Schilens.
w/ Mr. Higgins, Mr. Holland, Mr. Watkins, Mr. Miller, Mr. Figurs, Mr. Bodiford, and the rookie, Mr. Ford-
only two-three of these will make the roster at most (with Jacoby being one of them) the other for special teams coverage.
We do need a veteran WR, we should make an offer to Lance Moore, force the Saint’s hand, this would give us the slot receiver we need, if they didn’t match our offer.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Cable said that we got Gallery thats why the team is not going after Feneca. Are you serious???
Alan Feneca is a pro bowler and has been healthy.
Move Gallery to the RG and you got yourself a solid line.
Cable also said that there is going to be new FB from the once that went undrafted. I guess O’neal is not ready yet…
April 24th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
Is Mcfadden DMAC brother????
April 24th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
Isn’t Murphy our slot receiver Retribution?
April 24th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
UFAs:
- Lonyae Miller, RB, Fresno State is a must-sign.
- Tony Washington, the o-line kid from Abilene Christian is a must-sign.
- Seyi Ajirotutu, WR, Fresno State is definitely worth a look.
- Travis Ivey, DT, Maryland is a 340 pound whale who’d be worth a look.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
SteveAlford…
Interesting that you do that. I havent done that yet, me as a Raider. I often believe getting a legendary player jersey always lasts forever. Plunkett, Stabler, Branch, Long, etc. I’ve gone thru soooooooo many new ones where they end up bad players or cut or traded to other teams and i have to sell them on ebay. I got rid of about 12 jerseys the last couple years.
i only have a randy moss black left. but this draft class for a change was exciting and there’s a few fan favorites in there. Murphy, Z.Miller, M.Mitchell, T.Branch, Shaughnessy, maybe even DHB. Thinking about Lechler, and never got an Asomugha one.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Our DB corp is so deep!
Mr. Nnamdi Asomugha is here, as no other team will be willing to pay QB money to one of the best cornerbacks (arguably the best) in the NFL.
Mr. Mitchell has a year of experience under his belt and was stout in goal line stances (he was instrumental in the goal-line stops we had), Mr. Huff finally began to earn his value as a first round pick, Mr. Eugene & Mr. Branch were solid when healthy, Mr. Routt showed promise and gave us more reason to buy a shot than our ex-girlfriends (he will need to be more consistent) as does Mr. Johnson, hopefully the payday honeymoon is over for him and he goes back to his 2008 pro-bowl caliber performance, as they and Mr. Boyd will be competing with the rookie Mr. McFadden, Mr. Ware, & Mr. Brown for a roster spot and/or a starting position.
With our scoring offense improving as well as our run defense improving the DBs will need to focus on coverage more than they have in years.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Well, if I hadn’t played semi-pro, I probably wouldn’t be so keen on having jersey’s with my name on it… and it’s really kind of bitter-sweet… because I ended up quitting before my knee was completely destroyed. Having Raiders authentic game jerseys with my name on them makes me smile when I see them, but then kind of bums me out a bit over missed opportunities. I never should have joined the Army just because I didn’t get any scholarship offers (non-academic) to D1 schools… should’ve taken the academic ride to Kentucky and tried to walk on… they sucked badly enough at the time that I probably could have, given that I wasn’t half bad… but instead I went into the Army and messed my knee up walkin out of perfectly good airplanes and when I got out and made a semi-pro team, I found out after half a season that my knee just couldn’t take it if I pursued any further. *sigh* It sucks when dreams die…
April 24th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
As for this draft, the job isn’t done yet, so i hope the Raiduhs arent celebrating and slacking off from hammering the phones today and all week gathering up a bunch more UDFA’s at OL, DT, QB, RB.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
But I was a damned good press corner/spy LB if I do say so myself. At 5′10″ 185, this white boy could fly… had the hands to go in the slot when we spread the offense, but the DC didn’t like seeing me risk injury on the other side of the line, so I wasn’t used offensively very much.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
SteveAlford…
That’s the incredible world of football. Millions of guys like you with similar stories. For every guy who gets drafted, there’s a billion who just never made it due to especially injury. A lot of those were absolute superstars in high-school too, guys destined for greatness if it wasnt for a bad injury or series of them. But i hope you learn that regret shouldnt be on your shoulder rest of your life. More to life than being a pro-football star. Plus, you served our nation proud and that’s even more special than being a super-star football player 100/100 times.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
Was last year’s draft really that bad?
I’m still a Mike Mitchell believer. He couldn’t get on the field because Branch and Huff were playing very well. Shaughnessy and Murphy looked like steals. Brandon Myers was a solid pick in Round 6. Can’t write off Slade Norris, he could surprise. DHB’s the glaring pick but his story is far from over. Then Nick Miller, Desmond Bryant, David Nixon and Jerome Boyd — all UFAs — find spots on the roster.
Last year was better than people think.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
Damn it, GG… now I’m all nostalgic and sad…
April 24th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
prolly a cousin
April 24th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Guy, Murphy was the only one that was deep it seemed he was our wideout.
Both he and Chaz play the same position(as Mr. Heyward-Bey is to be our deep threat), but all three are those big body WRs, we need that dart that gets the ball on a 5-10 yard slant like Moore, as the Hall Of Fame, #25 was, going old-school on you, plus you know Al likes those current Super Bowl champion veterans free agents.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Ciron Black and Brandon Carter still available? Add them to the list of must-sign UFAs. Along with a FB.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Guy, Murphy was the only one that was deep it seemed he was our wideout.
Both he and Chaz play the same position(as Mr. Heyward-Bey is to be our deep threat), but all three are those big body WRs, we need that dart that gets the ball on a 5-10 yard slant like Moore, as the Hall Of Fame, #25 was, going old-school on you, plus you know Al likes those current Super Bowl champion veterans free agents.
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Jacoby Ford was signed to be that guy and Nick Miller deserves a chance and will get that chance to crack the roster again.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
GG,
I didn’t serve our country… I served the interests of wealthy men and the politicians whose favor they own. Fighting for your country and freedom and liberty are just the sales slogans that they use to convince the children of the middle and lower classes to go die so that they can make more money.
I love the idea of our country and the principles upon which it was founded… but I do not love what it has become. I was young and naive and now I am permanently injured for nothing more than to make the wealthy even wealthier. ALL wars are about making money… and if I had known that when I was 18, I might be playing ball to this very day instead of suffering for a blind patriotism bill of sale.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
Chris, I agree last years draft was a solid one.
as for DHB, you are correct his career is far from over, in fact I know he will catch at least 50 passes and score 5 TDs minimum, especially with a year under his belt, he will not have the weight of carrying the scoring offense on his shoulders, while all the other WRs across the league will go thru their sophmore slump, DHB will shine!
April 24th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
We got some fullback tonga. Not sure if this is official
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/
April 24th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
Do you really think the Raiders or any real Raider Fan gives two @#$%^ what you or any other flunky talking head says regarding the Draft.
Any fool that talks up or talks doown a Draft before 2 to 3 years from the date of the Draft no nothing about what they are talking about anyway and most are working TV and not in the NFL for a reason.
As far as 8-8, if the Raiders would have started last season with a QB and having a very strong schedule would have went 8-8. As for Campbell he had a higher completion percentage, threw for more yards and only 2 less TD’s than McNabb did last year and that was while playing behind a garbage O line and with second rung receivers and over the hill RB. While McNabb had a good O line and top receivers.
I doubt that Al Davis is sitting up nights knowing you or any other clown that knows about as much about football as I do Brain Surgery likes the Draft they put togeter. I love the Haters being Haters so do not stop now my friend.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Just found a Patriots draft site that has all the reported UFA signings so far. Here’s what they have for the Raiders:
Raiders
Trent Guy, WR, Louisville
Manase Tonga, FB, BYU
Brashton Satele, LB, Hawaii
Alex Daniels, DE, Cinci
Alex Parsons, RG, USC
Andre Anderson, RB, Tulane
April 24th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
SteveAlford…
I hear you about the cynical/realistic pov about serving the wealthy and politicians. But it’s not all that either. That, plus your nostalgic sadness, you seem to have a depressing side to you, you can fall into it from reflecting and self-analyzing/comparing too much. You gotta try to live for the day more. I know it sounds corny, but it’s true, just wake up each day grateful and SEEING/understanding that every day brings a NEW EXPERIENCE and opportunities. Dont look back, not with regret anyway, and never for too long—either admiring the past or regretting it. Try to give yourself NEW things to be happy about every new day, so you build NEW memories that validate a higher self-esteem or sense of pride in yourself.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
As for DHB…
I didnt like the pick, but I am far more optimistic about him than McFadden and Russell. DHB works hard, is a good kid, and can very easily turn into a star with that attitude and work ethic. It’s very common for receivers to need 2-3 years to “get it” seeing as WRs have to learn so much, like QBs.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
Chris what is the website?
April 24th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
So much for my UFA wish list:
Lonyae Miller: Cowboys
Seyi Ajirotutu: Chargers
Tony Washington: Still available
Travis Ivey: Dolphins
Brandon Carter: Saints
Ciron Black: Still available
Here’s the link to that site: http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/p/2010-nfl-undrafted-free-agents.html
April 24th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
GG,
I hate that I’ve cast that kind of impression of myself tonight. I’m as happy-go-lucky as one can get most of the time and I have a lot of pride and happiness about my past and my life in the present. I guess the mood I was in from reflecting on my injury just had me in a frame of mind to be bluntly negative about the naivety of the idea of “serving your country” as it’s perpetuated from the government to the poor. I just refuse to sugarcoat things or look for silver linings, though. I will call a spade a spade and will make no bones about it. In my experience, it makes the good things in life a million times better, because there can be no doubt about their authenticity.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Dang Al took too long. Could still use Black and Washington. Jay Ross and Charles Alexander (strong DTs) are gone. Can dez be a NT?
April 24th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
The most positive Raiders draft in recent memory concludes today followed by the Sharks shaking the monkey off their back with a 6 game round one knockout of the up and coming Avs. What a great day for the two best sports franchises in my world!
That, and my son scored 11 goals in two of the first three games of his hockey tournament in Fremont today. [he played goalie in the other and only gave up one goal]. Oh yeah, a good day all around!
April 24th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Are there any big DTs left?
April 24th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Alford…
Sorry, didnt mean to typecast you either. It’s all good now. Seriously, I hear you about the “serving the country” part. I DO have a dual outlook on that—i agree but also see the other side of it, because it’s there too.
Shame about your pro-football dreams dashed. But at least you got semi-pro, you lived a dream still.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
If you’re looking for a particular player, copy and paste the list into Word. Click at the top and hit CTRL and the F key to search the list for a name or school or whatever.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
Do you know of any available big defensive tackles? and Dez play NT if he puts on some weight?
April 24th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
WTF, Ciron Black still available and Cable hasnt jumped all over it. More work required to rustle up UDFAs.
Has anyone signed Jarrett Brown?
April 24th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
Ya the dam niners stole him. Jay ross is gone too. Perriloux (sp?) is gone.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Yay we take a pass rushing DE over a DT.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
http://walterfootball.com/draft2010NT.php
Do you guys know anyone from here?
April 24th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
The only NT available from this list is Trey Bryant, the lowest rated guy.
April 24th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
So this is who we signed today…
Raiders
Trent Guy, WR, Louisville
Manase Tonga, FB, BYU
Brashton Satele, LB, Hawaii
Alex Daniels, DE, Cinci
Alex Parsons, RG, USC
Andre Anderson, RB, Tulane
April 24th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
We are a VERY different team than we were three days ago. Here are the reasons we will be much better next year…
Campbell is better than Russell
Bush is better than Fargas
McClain is better than Morrison
Houston is better than Warren
Ford is better than ?
Veldheer and Campbell will upgrade the O line
So we have a better quarterback, running back, middle linebacker, D line, O line, and return game. And all these upgrades will contribute to a better attitude on the part of the entire team.
I am really looking forward to next season!
April 24th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
Kirk,
We have a brandnew LB Corp now. yeah a very different D and no Jawalrus to worry about. in 1 week Al has improved the team tremendously.
April 24th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
I guess as Jim Mora said last night, you can never get a perfect draft, and you’re always post-draft gonna find out you totally forgot about this or that player and they slipped by you, got drafted or undrafted, and you kick yourself, an on-going process thru the pre-season to keep finding players that didnt make cuts on other teams, players you kicked yourself over before but fate brought them back to you fortunately, etc.
I guess as long as we end up a 10 win team, and in the playoffs, that’s all that matters, and we still have to pump a fist that we finally had a great draft which makes up for a lot of mistakes in recent years.
April 24th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
Also look at how huge the J.Campbell signing was. There was a HUGE pall hanging over RaiderNation, the coaches, and Al, with JaKnucklehead bringing the whole franchise down and making a mockery of it and our tradition. This huge dead weight lifted collectively, the minute J.Campbell became a Raider. A NEW era beckoning. The whole mood of this place lifted not letting the door hit Russell on his way out. Like a bad stink gone.
April 24th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
CBSsports has the best breakdowns on prospects in my opinion. Looking over these UFAs now.
- Manase Tonga, FB, BYU: Someone I was familiar with. More of an athletic, run/catch FB than a punishing lead blocker.
- Alex Parsons, G, USC was a projected 7th rounder. Among the info is that he can play anywhere on the o-line, was a HS All-American and at 6-4, 310 ran a 4.9 at USC’s pro day.
- Trent Guy, WR, Louisville sounds like a smallish return guy (5-8, 170) with 4.5 speed. Second team All Big East kick returner in 2008. Probably a poor man’s Jacoby Ford.
- Brashton Satele, LB, Hawaii is an ILB prospect who missed all of 2009 due to injury. 6-1, 240 with 4.65 speed. Also found this quote on the site: Head coach Greg McMackin is hoping Brashton Satele can help fill the void. Satele missed all of the 2009 season with a shoulder injury. He has applied for a medical redshirt that would allow him to play again in 2010, but Satele redshirted in 2005 and there are no guarantees he will be granted a 6th year of eligibility. “I’m really anxious to find out from the NCAA if Brashton can come back. If he comes back, we’re sitting good at linebacker. He’s an outstanding middle linebacker. He’s a leader. He bring it all to the table,” McMackin said. McMackin told Hawaii News Now he does not know when the NCAA will rule on Satele’s appeal.
- Alex Daniels, DE, Cincinnati is 6-2, 265 and ran a 4.7 with 31 bench reps at his Pro Day. Had transferred from Minnesota to Cincinnati. Fairly highly touted coming out of high school. No info on his 2009 season.
- Andre Anderson, RB, Tulane was Honorable Mention All Conference USA two straight seasons. Here’s the scouting overview from CBS — Seven games into the 2008 season, Anderson looked to be on his way up draft boards. After two seasons playing behind Matt Forte (his teammates called him “Little Matt” at 2008 spring practices), he was among the nation’s leaders in rushing, averaging 123.4 yards per game. But a fractured and dislocated right shoulder suffered against Rice ended his season prematurely. Tulane’s offensive attack struggled to score in 2009 (16.1 points per game), but Anderson still managed to rush for 1,016 yards and eight touchdowns coming off the injury. He has also caught 55 passes over the past two seasons, both of which ended with him receiving honorable-mention All-Conference USA honors. A classic slasher who doesn’t fit into the pure speed or power back molds, Anderson is just a solid runner with a nice lean and who gives good effort on every play and has better speed than most realize. A team looking for a one-cut back in the middle-to-late rounds may focus on him.
April 24th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
GG Says:
April 24th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
Also look at how huge the J.Campbell signing was. There was a HUGE pall hanging over RaiderNation…
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Very true indeed.
hey Chris in NY, you happy with Bruce Campbell draft now?
April 24th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
Haynesworth for our No. 2 next year would really cap off this weekend nicely.
April 24th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
You know it Aig,
You never know how any of these guys will pan out but to me that was probably the highlight of the weekend.
April 24th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
There is a chance we may eventually swtich to a 3-4, we have the personnel to except for a NT. I think we should target a NT instead that wants to play 3-4.
April 24th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Raiders4eve: point taken
Does anyone have the espn team grades?
April 24th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
http://maddennfl.easports.com/draft.action
Go here and boost the Raiders picks!
April 24th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Is Jay Ross gone????
Who took him???
Here is the list of the available players and the ones taken.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d817c634a&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
April 24th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Guy
Where is the link that Jay Ross is gone???
In NFL.com they still have him available
April 24th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Great Draft!!!!!
Roster:
RDE: Matt S
DT: Seymour
DT: TK
LDE: Houston/ T Scott on passing downs
WLB: T Scott, Groves
ILB: McClain, Travis Goethel
SLB: Wimbley, Groves, Norris
CB: Nnamdi, CJ, Routt, McFadden, J Ware
SS: Branch, MM
FS: Huff, ??
QB: Campbell, JR, ?
HB: DMC/ Bush, Reece
FB: ?
TE: Miller, BM, ?
WR: Chaz, DHB, Murphy, Ford, Miller/ JLH
RT: Barnes,Valdheer/ Campbell
RG: Cooper/ Walker
C: Satele, Morris
LG: Gallery, Campbell
LT: Mario, Campbell, Pears
We need to add a FB, DL, and C/G.
April 24th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
where is howard on your list?
April 24th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/p/2010-nfl-undrafted-free-agents.html
Says he went to the Saints.
April 24th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
Ahhhh, just back from a night out with the ladies! Thank God they all wanted to shower together and make up a batch of flaming Mai Tais, so i can finally check in with my cool blog bros.
Dudes, what a great draft and the biggest news of all … Krappy finally realized the humiliation was just too great and resigned to his living room changing table. For good, hopefully!
So how about the Campbells, huh slams? New starters on the line and running the show?
Gotta be loving McClain cleaning up the middle, unless he pulls a Napolean Harris on us and farts his way out of the league …
April 24th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
The Raiders now need to sign a veteran center, or guard in free agency number one. Number two, they need to look for a veteren receiver that can get you 40-50 receptions and 600-700 yards, someone who could help mould DHB, Murphy, and Ford. Schilens will have a breakout year next year…
April 24th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Here’s an interesting story on Gradkowski…
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10115/1052919-66.stm
April 24th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
I think Howard, Brown, and Euk will be cut to dave 5 mil in salary costs.
April 24th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Guy
That list is wrong bro.
Its says its unofficial, for example we signed Brashton Satele MLB/DE I guess Satele brother and he is not in that list.
April 25th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Trade kelly and 3 round for Haynesworth
April 25th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Kelly and 2011 tird round for haynesworth