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Unofficial list of undrafted UFAs

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, April 25th, 2010 at 1:44 pm in Oakland Raiders.

An unofficial list of undrafted free agents signed by the Raiders according to nfldraftbible.com, one of the more diligent sites at tracking post-draft signings:

RB Andre Anderson, Tulane

FB Manase Tonga, BYU

WR Trent Guy, Louisville

OL Alex Parsons, USC

DE Alex Daniels, Cincinnati

LB Brashton Satele, Hawaii

Note: The Raiders often don’t confirm undrafted signings until they arrive at minicamp, and usually there is a name or two of a player who doesn’t actually wind up with the club or a new name.

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  1. 4evaRaider Says:

    Yo 8)

  2. Kirk Says:

    1st?

  3. Raider O Says:

    Great Job Jerry.

  4. RaiderTW Says:

    Let’s get Alex Parsons & make him a project!

  5. Raider75 Says:

    speakin of racial jokes…

    Tebow might be the most talked about white Bronco since OJ.

  6. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    no fb chane moline? guy was productive for ucla.

  7. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    what about that 6′6” 350lb nt heard? ever heard of him?

  8. Raider O Says:

    We are doing a great job.

    -Tonga was one if the best blocking FBs in this draft class.
    -DE Alex Daniels is 6′2 265, ran 4.65 & 4.55, and had 31 reps on the bench. He had 8 sacks last year.
    -Alex Parsons was rated as a top 15 OG.
    -Andre Anderson is a descent back, and had 1016 yards and had a 4.3 ypc avg.

    I love this draft!!!!!

  9. Raider75 Says:

    I look for the Raiders to bring in more talent as teams begin to make cuts.

    Could be some veteran o-line players looking for work after the draft shakes out.

  10. raider91 Says:

    Yes, also Kellen Heard (NT, O-lineman at times, RT)and Chane Moline (FB)signed but unofficial.

  11. Raider O Says:

    We need to add another C, RB, and a huge DT (320+) to make You People happy. lol

  12. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Coach Elkins Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    Prove it
    ======================================

    Proved it. Now maybe you can coach a lamaze class.

  13. stubblebuzz Says:

    FB Chane Moline. Check out the photo

    http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2010/4/25/1443268/udrfa-fb-chane-moline-ucla-signs

  14. Seymour Bush Says:

    I like the Alex Parsons signing. Big, physical kid from the West Coast, has a lot of upside, can play special teams.

  15. raider91 Says:

    Yeah, thas the blog I kick it at, since some here get out of line too much.(few)

  16. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    Forgot Kellen Heard, he should make the Cody fans happy:

    He was a project on the O-Line and a very talented DT that plays with a mean streak. (SOB will love this guy) At 6-6, 355, he is quite a load on either side of the ball who is best known for being a tough defender who hit Colt McCoy late in 2006

  17. 4evaRaider Says:

    GREAT photo Stubblebuzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  18. Seymour Bush Says:

    Chane Moline is a NICE signing. Really solid kid, was a captain on that UCLA team with Brian Price. This Moline kid is not an incredible athlete, but he is a VERY good football player!

  19. lefty12 Says:

    Seymour-exactly-another FOOTBALL PLAYER.

  20. lefty12 Says:

    this might not be too popular of a statement but it looks as if Cable has had a lot of influence in this draft-he and the rest of the coaching staff.

  21. 4evaRaider Says:

    just what we need!

  22. Seymour Bush Says:

    It’s funny how in last years draft after DHB all of a sudden football players started to arrive: Mitchell, Shaughnessy, Murphy, Norris, Brandon Myers. I think Al took notice. This year, we got FOOTBALL PLAYERS: McClain, Houston, Veldheer, McFadden, Goethels.

  23. 4evaRaider Says:

    Glad you said that Lefty….I been in Cables’ corner from the git-go :)

    Abd this was and is his draft…..Yo read it and weep you haters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  24. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Hey everyone,

    What a great weekend. I am still riding high.

    It was nice to see the Raiders operate like they had a real front office.

    It seems to me that Cable was given the authority to make the picks in this draft.

    He will live or die with it, in Als eyes I’m sure.

    I feel like for the first time since Gruden, the coach is getting some control over things.

    At this rate I might even re-up my season tickets.

  25. Raider O Says:

    Great Draft!!!!!!

    We added:
    QB J Campbell (starter)
    OLB: Wimbley (starter)
    MLB: McClain (starter)
    DT/DE: Houston (starter)
    PR/KR: J Ford
    DE/OLB: Groves (situational pass rusher)
    OL: Campbell & Valdheer can compete to be starters, and Parsons can be a backup.
    CB: McFadden (he compete with Routt)
    FB: Tonga (he can compete to start) was rated as one of the best blocking FBs in this draft.

    Backups & ST players:
    1- ILB Travis G
    2- CB Ware
    3- DE Alex Daniels
    4- Parsons

    Great Draft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  26. Seymour Bush Says:

    # lefty12 Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    this might not be too popular of a statement but it looks as if Cable has had a lot of influence in this draft-he and the rest of the coaching staff.
    ============================================

    That’s kind of the joke around here: these knucklehead “fans” think Al Davis sits in some empty room with a rotary phone with a pad and pencil. The coaching staff and scouting staff have HUGE say in what happens: See Gruden drafts 1999-2001 and Tampon Bay 2002-2008 and see the similarities. And see why Tampon Bay is drafting third ahead of us.

  27. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Looks like we are all on the same page.

    I am really starting to get on board with Coach Cable.

  28. Raider O Says:

    PR/ KR: J Ford (starter)

  29. La Milicia Negra Says:

    LB Brashton Satele, Hawai…

    is he a brother of our Center from Miami?

  30. Seymour Bush Says:

    # La Milicia Negra Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    LB Brashton Satele, Hawai…

    is he a brother of our Center from Miami?
    ========================================

    No, he’s one of the millions of Sateles just wandering around the same school our guy went to.

  31. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Hey Raider O,

    Where did you find the free agent lists.

    You had the first one I saw last night.

  32. 4evaRaider Says:

    Is Bruce Campbell Jason campbell brother? lol

  33. lefty12 Says:

    Seymour,while what you say has merit,everyone knows Davis makes the final decision.I believe this year he went along with his coaches more so than he has for quite some time.It seems Cable has his ear so to speak.

  34. 4evaRaider Says:

    Is Vernon Davis Al Davis’ dad????

  35. lefty12 Says:

    Read somewhere they are cousins.

  36. Coach Elkins Says:

    Jerry…thanks for the opportunity to post on your website…

    In our game of mind chess…I’m up 1-0…don’t worry though…I’m up way more than that on ur Boss, Mr. Davis!

    Remember that big guy!

    I got nothing but love for you big guy!

  37. Coach Elkins Says:

    My posts don’t go through…I’m done…

    Take it easy fellas

    Good game

    See ya on the field!

  38. 4evaRaider Says:

    what is is?

  39. 4evaRaider Says:

    dream on coach

  40. Coach Elkins Says:

    BLAME ME

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzeZhCt5PVA&feature=player_embedded

  41. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Who IS this guy?

  42. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    thought the draft was ok, i mean i like the mcclain pick but i wanted him paired up with a huge guy at the nose. i’m mystified why we want houston as an end cuz he could probably push kelly for his position or even bounce his overpaid azz. veldheer and campbell, can they contribute anytime soon? i hope so.
    it may be too much to ask for but i wanted someone who could step right in to start on the fringe rg, rt positions.still could get some guys along the way, from cuts, to add to this team. just hope for the best like all.

  43. lefty12 Says:

    Randy Hanson-nuttier than a fruitcake.No wonder Cable cold cocked him.

  44. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    Is Bruce Campbell Jason campbell brother? lol
    _______________________________________________________

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    Is Vernon Davis Al Davis’ dad????
    _______________________________________________________

    well sorry! maybe you think im stupid, but I never heard about a Satele before, and they went to the same school…

    so i think its an honest mistake!?

  45. Seymour Bush Says:

    # lefty12 Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    Seymour,while what you say has merit,everyone knows Davis makes the final decision.I believe this year he went along with his coaches more so than he has for quite some time.It seems Cable has his ear so to speak.
    =====================================

    I think your statement is exactly right. After the mess Gruden and Allen left us with and then the Shell personnel debacles, I think Al went a little Stalinistic on us and took over complete control. He has been lightly doling it out since.

  46. 4evaRaider Says:

    Come on LMN we better than that I just pulloing your leg

  47. Seymour Bush Says:

    # La Milicia Negra Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 2:42 pm

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    Is Bruce Campbell Jason campbell brother? lol
    _______________________________________________________

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    Is Vernon Davis Al Davis’ dad????
    _______________________________________________________

    well sorry! maybe you think im stupid, but I never heard about a Satele before, and they went to the same school…

    so i think its an honest mistake!?
    ====================================

    Take it easy, we’re just having a little fun. It’s been awhile since we can have a little fun around here.

  48. Raider O Says:

    STL,

    He is a Talking Coaching Monkey!

  49. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    i saw two games from jason campbell last year, one against the raiders where he took a beating early on but still outlasted our starting qb and looked good when he had time, then i saw him on a sunday night game vs. dallas and looked absolutely horrible with anouncers criticizing footwork and mechanics which was affecting accuracy like someone we know. but on his defense, he was in constant pressure behind a makeshift
    o-line and a surging d-line of dallas. all in all, i still think he might be the best option at qb we got heading into the season. 2012 4th. done deal.

  50. La Milicia Negra Says:

    fair enough, there should be room for fun…

    ….(just hate when its on my behalf)

  51. Coach Elkins Says:

    I have a couple links for you too:
    Perfect two years running….

    Prediction 2 years ago online
    http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=66&f=3775&t=2839688&stm=35848871

  52. Coach Elkins Says:

    Last Season

    http://raidersideline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1509&highlight=Coach+Elkins

    ______________________

    Oh wow…you let it go through this time

  53. Richochet Says:

    # Coach Elkins Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 2:32 pm

    My posts don’t go through…I’m done…

    Take it easy fellas

    Good game

    See ya on the field!
    =============
    No..you were DONE ONCE YOU GOT CALLED OUT, little man.

    What? Was I not dead on regarding what your sorryass would do, including bailing once you got exposed?

    Remember my guarantee about how you would try and convince yourself you had ‘things to do’, while you gulp, and know damn well you would be reduced to something weak, like “my posts won’t go through”, lol.

    Want a little salt on the wound?

    You state your posts didn’t go through, yet you typed your swag song, bail like a little betyotch take, knowing full well it would go through…

    It’s because you’re an idiot..that won’t ever change.

    Oh…when you borrow your sisters balls, and slink back in?

    You can pretend today never happened, and that you are, in fact, the Raiders next head coach lol…. :)

  54. Coach Elkins Says:

    Jerry…thx

  55. Alameda_Lee Says:

    Anybody know when the Raiders mini-camp is.

  56. Coach Elkins Says:

    I win again buddy

  57. Coach Elkins Says:

    Richochet …looks like you were set up…again…

    I WIN

  58. Coach Elkins Says:

    Classic KARMA

  59. Coach Elkins Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUee1WvtQZU

    I don’t want you to feel sore about it big guy…so here’s your youtube video…

    I know you need one!

  60. Coach Elkins Says:

    6-10 this year…

    With an exception only if Cable is fired!

  61. RaiderTW Says:

    Wrapping the Oakland Raiders draft
    April 24, 10:49 PMOakland Raiders ExaminerPatrick Patterson

    he 2010 NFL draft is in the book and the Oakland Raiders acquired 12 football players, 9 rookies and 3 veterans.

    Prior to the draft they traded draft picks for Kamerion Wimbley and Quinten Groves, both of whom are hybrid defensive linemen/linebackers.

    The Raiders their first pick on the Rolando McClain who was widely regarded as the best inside linebacker in the draft to shore up their leaky run defense. In the second they grabbed Lamarr Houston, who was acclaimed as the top defensive lineman at the time the Raiders picked.

    This was an unusual top two picks for the Raiders as there was none of the usual sense of flash or workout warrior ethos that has been prevalent. It was a case of solid nuts and bolts drafting. In a stark contrast from the 2009 draft, where the combination of Darrius Heyward-Bey and Michael Mitchell were universally mocked, the Raiders picks were continually praised.

    Morrison simply tweeted, “What a morning it has been for me. I feel like I got drafted all over again today. Unbelievable feeling.”

    In three of their final picks, the Raiders drafted defensive backs. Walter McFadden in the 5th, along with Jeremy Ware and Stevie Brown in the seventh. The non defensive back they added was linebacker Travis Goethel.

    For their third round, the Raiders stayed with the theme of the trenches when they added offensive tackle Jared Veldheer. With the first pick of the fourth round they selected the offensive tackle that many had them taking in the first round, Bruce Campbell.

    They made their first move that could be considered “typical raiders” when they dealt linebacker Kirk Morrison and the 153rd pick for the 108th pick to select wide receiver Jacoby Ford. Despite it being common knowledge that Morrison was on his way out, it seemed like a young four year starter at linebacker would command more value than a move up from a fifth round pick to a fourth.

    After Morrison was traded, Raiders CEO Amy Trask released a statement saying, “Al spoke with Kirk this morning and thanked him for his service over the years. Mr. Davis also told him that the doors to this organization will always be open to him.”

    The Raiders picks from Ford downwards were not nearly as acclaimed as the moves made in the first two days. However, the Raiders got the steal of their draft weekend when they traded their fourth round pick in 2010 to the Washington Redskins for Jason Campbell. Campbell was often maligned in Washington, but he has improved every year in the league, his career stat line is better than any quarterback under contact to the Silver and Black

  62. Coach Elkins Says:

    “I’ll put the brakes on and he’ll fly right by”

    -Maverick, Top Gun-

  63. Coach Elkins Says:

    I love Patrick Patterson….good writer…

  64. 4evaRaider Says:

    If it means anything to you LMN BROTHER….you can have all the laughs at my expence you want….

    I dont know if you remember this LMN but you were the 1st poster here 2 acknowledge me here :)

  65. Coach Elkins Says:

    Has a good career ahead of him!

  66. Coach Elkins Says:

    Last season link again…guess it didn’t work the 1st time

    http://raidersideline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1509&highlight=subconscious+breakdown

  67. 4evaRaider Says:

    oh great….I just poured my heart to LMN and he not even here :(

  68. Coach Elkins Says:

    Games were incorrect…record wasn’t…what can I say…nobody’s perfect!

  69. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Elkins,

    How does predicting that we would go 4-12 or 5-11 mean anything? I love the Raiders dearly, but I (and many other fans) have predicted horrible records for years… that doesn’t mean that you know a damned thing. Posting a prediction of a record carries NO WEIGHT. Maybe if you posted something that contained sentences or actual thoughts, opinions, and evaluations, that might be different.

  70. Richochet Says:

    Oh man…I’m honestly LMFAO…hey, moron Elkie?

    YOU POST THE FOLLOWING…ADDING ‘Oh wow you let it go through this time”????

    Uh..that’s the ONLY time you posted it.
    HOW DID YOU KNOW IT WAS GOING THROUGH?

    Had you ALREADY posted that youtube link, the followup comment would apply, except you didn’t .

    In other words, you’re too stupid to stay out of your own way.

    Tell me something…how exactly does one be so bad they get fired from a asst gig at a high school?

    # Coach Elkins Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    Last Season

    http://raidersideline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1509&highlight=Coach+Elkins

    ______________________

    Oh wow…you let it go through this time

  71. Coach Elkins Says:

    SteveAlford

    Done…

    http://raidersideline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2633&highlight=optimism

    from this website you can view all posts…and be entertained as well….lol

  72. SaintKaufman Says:

    That’s a little creepy that u remember the first person to acknowledge your blog existence 4eva!! :)

  73. Seymour Bush Says:

    # SteveAlford21 Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    Elkins,

    How does predicting that we would go 4-12 or 5-11 mean anything? I love the Raiders dearly, but I (and many other fans) have predicted horrible records for years… that doesn’t mean that you know a damned thing. Posting a prediction of a record carries NO WEIGHT. Maybe if you posted something that contained sentences or actual thoughts, opinions, and evaluations, that might be different.
    ===============================================

    SteveAlford21 is exactly right. It’s easy to sit here and say, “we suck”. “Our coach sucks, our Q sucks, our line sucks, we suck, the hotdogs at the Coliseum suck”…I hate that crap. Tell us how we can get BETTER. And be specific and be realistic. Don’t say “once we sign Peyton Manning or once Al kicks.”

  74. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Elkins,

    That site wants me to register or log in. No thanks. If it contains anything you wrote that’s worth reading, just copy and paste it here.

  75. 4evaRaider Says:

    thats a little creepy that you say thats a little creepy SaintKaufman :)

  76. Coach Elkins Says:

    Our coaching sucks….that’s all I’m saying

  77. La Milicia Negra Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    oh great….I just poured my heart to LMN and he not even here
    ________________________________________________________

    Im here, I ws just out to get a smoke =)… I DO remember

  78. SteveAlford21 Says:

    From what you’ve said, it seems that you predicted the record correctly, but were wrong about which teams we would beat and why. That kind of invalidates the prediction of the record, doesn’t it? If you just say “5-11″ and we go 5-11, then you’re right. If you say, “We will win the first 5 (and here’s why) and lose the last 11 (and here’s why)” but then we lose the first 11 and win the last 5, your prediction is invalid in my opinion.

    You can’t say “got the teams wrong, but nobody’s perfect” and then still say that your prediction was right. If you went far enough to pick WHICH games we would win, but were wrong about that, then the 5-11 prediction is meaningless.

  79. SaintKaufman Says:

    Hey 4eva,
    How come no more tunes linked to your user name??

  80. 408RAIDER Says:

    Go LMN!

  81. La Milicia Negra Says:

    SaintKaufman Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    That’s a little creepy that u remember the first person to acknowledge your blog existence 4eva!!
    ________________________________________________________

    I remember mine too, its nearly 4 years ago (shyt :S) …

    I had been posting, and no-one commenting on my posts, that made me a bit sad, I must admit…

    Then a guy called NorthernRaider, said I seem to be okay, and just here for info’s and talking raiders, then it took off…

    Coach on wheels were the first to actually agree with me on something =)

  82. Florida Pete Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
    oh great….I just poured my heart to LMN and he not even here

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    jesus christ…

  83. 408RAIDER Says:

    yo 4eva LMN

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xftx2MUT87A

  84. 408RAIDER Says:

    sup saint pete Nation! Nice draft dont ya think?

  85. La Milicia Negra Says:

    408..

    LOL

  86. SaintKaufman Says:

    Hell ya 408!

    Was hoping to add Cam Thomas in the 5th but you knew San Diego was gonna grab him.

    Still lots of work to be done but a great way to start the year.

  87. 408RAIDER Says:

    Saint

    Im all smiles.. Although a known homer and Kool-Aid user I cant help but be excited about OTA’s and the new season..

  88. Richochet Says:

    I remember the warm wonderful welcome I received here as well, upon my arrival.

    Heartfelt warmth..guarantees of continued friendship and support…posters gushing forth with words of encouragement..

    Oh wait.

    That was kindergarten.

    never mind.

  89. Raiders4eve Says:

    Raiders 2010 draft

    Jason Campbell, QB
    Rolando McClain, ILB,
    Lamarr Houston, DE
    Jared Veldheer, OT
    Bruce Campbell, OT
    Jacoby Ford, WR
    Walter McFadden, CB
    Travis Goethel, ILB/ST
    Jeremy Ware, CB
    Stevie Brown, S
    Manase Tonga, FB
    Trent Guy, WR
    Alex Daniels, DE
    Alex Parsons, G
    Brashton Satele, ILB/DE
    Andre’ Anderson, RB
    Chane Moline, FB
    Kellen Heard – NT/DT/RT

  90. lefty12 Says:

    LMN,it doesn’t mean a damn thing,but I’ve agreed you many times but didn’t feel the need to comment.I’ve also disagreed with you without comment.The same with many other posters.For what it’s worth,at least I know you are a Raider fan.I can’t say the same about some on here.

  91. Seymour Bush Says:

    Here. Let me repost this since you obviously missed it:

    Coach Elkins Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 10:35 am

    Cable is a politician….doesn’t know his football(x’s and o’s)
    =====================================================

    At UCLA in 04-05 Cable was the Offensive Coordinator and ranked 5th in the nation in scoring offense. Prior to UCLA, he was at the University of Colorado as Offensive Coordinator which was ranked 14th in the nation in total offense. All the offensive coordinator does is x and o. So, either you are wrong, or opponents just let Tom Cable win because they like him. Which is it?

  92. 4evaRaider Says:

    Saint….I dont understand about the tunes????

  93. SaintKaufman Says:

    I hear ya. I’ll be hitting that kool-aid all summer!

  94. 4evaRaider Says:

    I remember 2 Richochet :)

  95. Coach Elkins Says:

    ____________

    What scheme would be best used for JaMarcus and the Raiders? not sure what scheme is in place now for the offense and defense just would like to know what you all think we should be using and why.

    Great Question…

    It is also a question that should have been asked prior to signing Jeff Garcia…who, is a completely different QB than JR…..but that’s getting off topic…

    You guys mentioned Shotgun and more no-huddle…and I agree to an extent…however…the Raiders Defense does not warrant our Offense running a no-huddle style of Offense…..we are not consistent enough Defensively to put added pressure on our defense just yet…..IMO……it would just hurt our Defense that much more…

    Actually, To be honest…we don’t have the coaches who can teach the kind of scheme needed to run a successful no-huddle attack…which could take advantage of mismatches in personnel and in the scheme….we simply don’t have the confidence to teach these ideas let alone execute this type of game plan…last season Matt Ryan and the Falcons used an ON THE BALL approach, which is similar to a no huddle….against us in Oakland to perfection….the Raiders were so out coached in this game it made me sick….a rookie QB was lining his Offense up in a set….if he liked what he saw he’d run the play…if he didn’t…he change the set…and call something else…the Raiders never adjusted their scheme…completely ridiculous….ignorant…stupid…whatever you want to call it…there is no excuse for it…NONE

    Instead…our staff focus on the prehistoric techniques that afforded them the opportunity to coach in the NFL…essentially taking no REAL risks….implementing no new ideas…and seem comfortable running the same stuff teams have been using for 20 years….Zone blocking is popular because it gives the Running Back a choice…and allows for a cutback….and also allows for a decent play action passing game off of it with a long running fake…occupying the linebackers…blah blah blah…..HOWEVER…power football is all but forgotten by most teams….no Guards pulling anymore…no crack blocks by WR’s…Why? Pittsburgh is one of the only teams who used these ideas…as well as the zone concepts….

    To look more closely….the money these men are making doesn’t allow for the staff to want to take un-necessary risks with their players…high salaries affect decision making…..which…is BS….so because of money, contracts, agents, and the basic need of the individual player has a huge effect on the product we see on the field….Football used to be about toughness….now it has evolved to be a much different reality…

    Last season we saw a few teams implement some newer concepts and saw some success….although ideas like the Wildcat formation have been around football for many many years….the NFL is bringing some of these back with a few new twists. but it’s still football….Now…if a team took the Wildcat stuff and used it as a no-huddle package…perhaps inside the red zone…you might have yourself a nice little Offensive scheme/package….hint hint….

    Why did we get Russell if we aren’t going to utilize his strengths….?

    Makes no sense….

  96. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LB Mike McLaughlin, Boston College (Ravens)
    FB Matt Clapp, Oklahoma (Lions)
    OL Adam Ulatoski, Texas (Texans)
    NT Travis Ivey, Maryland (Dolphins)
    OL Brandon Carter, Texas Tech (Saints)
    DT Jay Ross, East Carolina (Saints)
    OT Nic Richmond, TCU (Chargers)
    RB LeGarrett Blount, Oregon (49ers)
    OG Jeff Byer, USC (Seahawks)

    I wanted these guys !!!

    oh well. at least we got Parsons & Tonga :)

  97. Coach Elkins Says:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/196677-oakland-raider-football-101-zone-blocking-system

  98. Coach Elkins Says:

    A charateristic of a GREAT defense first and foremost would be that it MUST be ADAPTABLE. In my opinion a Team must run a 3/4 and a 4/3 interchangeably.

    The first idea that cannot be misunderstood is that our Defensive Line is the most important position on the entire TEAM. Why? Simple, if you have a good defense you can win games without a good offense. If you have a great Offense without a good defense you will be outscored many times. Thus, your Defense is more important than Offense when drafting players of need. Back to the Defensive Line argument. If I have 3 or 4 men who can occupy the 5 Offensive Linemen then “WE” have a mismatch wherever “WE” choose to use it. If “WE” can contain the run game with these 3 or 4 men, “WE” can do whatever “WE” want if “WE” are adaptable to the formation presented to “US”.

    Communication is the key. Understand Offensive Sets is vital to the continuity of the Defense and the conceptual ideas behind why we do this or that. Each member of the Defensive unit must understand his role inside of each play. We are never in a defensive state of mind, rather, we are forcing them to find our weak spot by exposing theirs.

    Too often teams in the NFL play it safe. This happens because most coaches are all content with their million dollar job and don’t want to make any mistakes, they essentially don’t want a loss to be their FAULT. So, coaches who actually do take risks are at a higher level than those who do not. Risk taking is all about timing.

    These are some of the qualities of a stellar defense from a coaching perspective. Obviously talent is important, but talent is not something I rely on, I am a coach, my job is to get the most out of a particular athlete, to motivate him and his team, while his job is to perform.

  99. Coach Elkins Says:

    No, I’m not saying to copy San Diego…although I do like their scheme….

    Their weaknesses are teams who run the ball against their 3/4 scheme out of a Double TE set.

    Two TE’s, one on either side, with an Ace back is a huge advantage against a 3/4 scheme. The Chargers only have 3 men at the point of attack (LOS-Line of Scrimmage) and if you line up a double tight you have 7 men against their 3 with some extra space to play with.

    A balanced 2 TE set can always be used against a 3/4 defense in the run game. The defense is forced to show their hand and pick a strength against a balanced offensive set….Once you know where they set their strength, you can many times know the rules behind their intentions, based on film preparation…When they start to cheat, you play action off of it….Very similar to the what the Colts do…although they have been varying it a bit the last couple years….

    The COLTS CHARGER matchups the past couple years have been huge chess games, if you know what you’re watching.

  100. lefty12 Says:

    Thanks,Randy.

  101. Coach Elkins Says:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/191733-how-can-the-oakland-raiders-beat-the-san-diego-chargers

  102. SteveAlford21 Says:

    I remember way back when I first started posting here (about a month and a half ago)…

    Lots of people got along decently with me, a few seemed really cool and connected with me, and a few were total douchebag retards. It’s pretty much like being anywhere else in life. I’m liked by many, hated by few, loved by fewer. Nothing particularly special about the dynamic unless you’re someone with no life in the real world and have to spend all your time calling radio shows and begging for attention on blogs because no one likes you and you’re a pathological liar and a racist retard with a chip of your own stupid making on your shoulder.

  103. A.B. Paine II Says:

    I remember the first person to acknowledge me too. I corrected Tommy Trojan’s grammar, and he got all upset. Whatever happened to that guy. Maybe he lost his job at the Raider Image.

  104. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Lefty12…

    it would be boring if we agreed all the time =)

    well, im in your corner most of the time, too…

  105. 408RAIDER Says:

    lol this place has a lot of snobs IMO still we all love the Raiders (most of us do) that’s why I always come back even if I don’t always comment

  106. A.B. Paine II Says:

    Go away Randy Hanson. We don’t like you either.

  107. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # A.B. Paine II Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    I remember the first person to acknowledge me too. I corrected Tommy Trojan’s grammar, and he got all upset. Whatever happened to that guy. Maybe he lost his job at the Raider Image.
    ________________________________________________________

    LOL..

    he used to be here around draft time… at least he was the last two times…

  108. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Elkins,

    I went to the link on ZBS and am amazed at your ability to grasp concepts that are difficult for middle-schoolers to handle. However, anyone who played football past the age of 12 should know more about ZBS and Power/Drive Blocking philosophy than you included in your little dictum. Did you get it from “Football for Dummies” or “How to Coach Youth Football” or some other book? I didn’t even play line, for God’s sake… and knew more about the blocking system philosophies just from what I picked up in passing linemen stations at practice on my way to the water station between sessions.

  109. Guy Says:

    the Saints took who I wanted, Jay Ross and Carter. Could still use Tony Washington. I also wanted Donovan Warren who went to the Ravens. Ciron Black is still available. I wanted DT Charles Alexander too but hes gone.

  110. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Coach Elkins says: “What scheme would be best used for Jarcus and the Raiders?”

    Best scheme I can think of is a bus ticket to somewhere else.

  111. lefty12 Says:

    Let him buy his own damn bus ticket.The Raiders have already given him enough for nothing!

  112. Raiders4eve Says:

    Kellen Heard is a keeper big body NT and seems to be what we need in the middle. I wish we had two of these guys but since he will most probably playing two snaps max, I guess thats ok. I am also happy we Tonga, Moline to battle out for the FB position and see who stays in the team, Daniels and Parsons are in.

    Say bye bye to Pears, Joseph, Lawton, Watkins, Holland, Bodiford, Boller, Boyd, Chris Cooper, Figurs, Sam Williams, and Nixon.

    Maybe Norris, Ricky Brown, Cooper, Higgins, Reece, and Russell.

    Depth Chart

    QB: Campbell, Gradkowiski, Frye
    FB: O’neal, Tonga
    RB: Bush, McFadden, Anderson
    TE: Miller, Myers, Stewart
    WR: Schillens, DHB, Murphy, Ford, Miller
    LT: Henderson, Barnes
    LG: Gallery, Morris
    C: Satele, Morris
    RG: Walker, Campbell
    RT: Veldheer, Campbell

    DE: Shaughnessy, Daniels, Scott
    DT: TK, Heard, Howard
    DT: Houston, TK, Howard
    DE: Seymour, Scott, Daniels
    WLB: Scott, Howard
    MLB: McClain, Goethel, Satele
    SLB: Wimbley, Groves, Satele
    CB: Routt, CJ, McFadden
    CB: Asmough, CJ, MCfadden
    FS: Huff, Eugene
    SS: Branch, MM

  113. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Lol.

    Well, Lefty I didn’t say that we’d pay for it.

  114. SteveAlford21 Says:

    And since Elkins didn’t answer the question, I will:

    Based on his blocking on the end-around last year, I say that the best scheme for JaMarcus is the old single-wing where we put in D. McFadden as the QB, M. Bush as the HB and J. Russell will play H-Back. That’s right, I said H-Back (that’s not the same as a halfback, fyi). From that position, he can get out front on runs and can throw the ball about 10 times per game from odd angles. This will allow him to avoid the pass rush and take higher percentage throws… maybe even a few long shots down the field without having to worry about blitzers. We already know that he can handle the contact required of that position from seeing him take countless hits and shake them off, and we’ve seen him get out front and block, so we know he is durable. This is the only system in which I see him having ANY success as a passer unless we get him the ‘07 Patriots offensive line and put a black visor on a helmet that swivels on its own, so that defenders can’t read his eyes and helmet when he stares down receivers.

  115. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Also, in the single-wing, the QB rarely throws the ball, so McFadden will basically be a running back taking direct snaps and then having the option to run it himself or pitch the ball based on defensive pursuit. There are designed pass plays, but they are very rare. In such a formation, we could utilize the strengths of our running backs while minimizing the liability of handoffs, our interior line weakness, and confusion by a certain QB. On plays where the ball goes to the H-Back and it is drawn up for him to pass, he will already be out of the pocket and have Bush, the TE, and at least one “pulling” lineman on the flank to keep him clean so he can make the pass.

  116. SteveAlford21 Says:

    If anyone else knows of another system in which JR would have a chance to succeed WITHOUT being a liability and hurting the team more than he helps it, I would like to hear about it. A WCO required more accuracy and ability to quickly read coverage than JR possesses. A vertical philosophy needs deep drops that bring out the worst in JR. Double-tight sets mean easier coverage for the defensive secondary, which will lead to more interceptions. Singleback sets just beg the D to play zone, which will lead to more interceptions against an inaccurate QB like JR. I, Power I, and Weak I would be fine, but we would still need a vastly improved offensive line and a fullback who can block VERY well.

  117. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    This was a pretty coordinated draft-and a good one.
    People who think Al had nothing to do with it are crazy.
    It looks to me as if Cable is the first head coach since Gruden who knows how to work with Al.

  118. Raiders4eve Says:

    Coach Elkins

    Your concept about ZBS scheme is accurate but I disagree with you that the more speed the defensive linemen got, it would decrease the ZBS effectiveness. It really depends on the talent you got, if you got guys like the Jets line, you could easily see that quicker DLs dont crap against them. Its actually vice versa, bigger DLs (who sometimes are slow), give them some problems. But I agree with you the Raiders need to mix it up both schemes to become more effective, little bit of power in the goal line won’t hurt when you got M Bush running not Fargas. I think this team lacked the talent to implement many schemes, now all we need is a good center and maybe veteran RG plus a huge NT to play DT for us and we good to go baring any key injuries to Schillens or Gallery.

  119. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Night Guys its way past midnight here so i better go find my bed, take care…

  120. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Just to clarify on how the double-tight set makes coverage easier on the secondary:

    When the D sees the second TE, they can put an extra man in the box, anticipating run from that formation. If we go play-action, as long as the safety didn’t bite on the fake, he can drop back into coverage, but even if he DID bite, there are still adequate DBs to cover the receivers (we are down one because of the extra TE) and a linebacker can cover any backs who squirt out of the backfield after the fake, either on a delayed circle route or a flat pattern.

  121. Coach Elkins Says:

    Excellent post Steve

  122. SteveAlford21 Says:

    If there is no play-action fake, then the previous point is moot: the extra safety in the box just drops back into coverage.

  123. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Exactly which post(s) are you referring to, Elkins?

  124. Coach Elkins Says:

    If you put an extra guy in the box…I’ll shift Macfadden to the slot…

    Entering into the best formation in football to pass the football….5 wide set with 2 te….both of whom can be check in to block if a blitz does show…..

    I can do this all day Steve….

  125. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Drunk walks into a pub, throwing open the doors, and yells out:
    “All you on the right side are c$$k suckers and all you on the left are mother f$$$krs.
    Suddenly a guy runs from the left to the right.
    “Where are you going?” the drunk yells out.
    “Sorry” the guy says, “I was on the wrong side.”

  126. Raiders4eve Says:

    I think if Cable can now go there and coach these players and start wining the first five weeks, proves to the owner that he is capable of wining some games, he will definitely get an extension. As you all know this his final year in his contract, its a make it or break it year for him as a Headcoach. Not sure any team would sign him with all his package as a wife beater and pimp hand slapper to his coaches. lol

  127. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    LMN!
    Take it easy!

  128. Coach Elkins Says:

    All of them were great…although I would use them as ideas and packages….

    In todays league…you have to run it all….

    On the line if possible…

    On both sides of the football!

  129. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Elkins… there is no such thing as “5 wide with 2 TE.” That would require an empty backfield except for the QB, with only a Center and 2 Guards.

  130. Coach Elkins Says:

    Cable isn’t winning anything this side of a lawsuit!

  131. Coach Elkins Says:

    Z TB Y LT LG C RG RT X Z
    QB

  132. Coach Elkins Says:

    Alternatively…I’d line up in this set and shift Mcfadden back to the backfield

  133. SteveAlford21 Says:

    You can have a 5 wide set with NO tight ends… or you can have two tight ends, but that usually means a blocking back in the backfield with the HB and the QB. If you go double-tight and then shift the HB out to the slot, you still only end up with three receivers (counting HB in the slot). The TEs can go out in patterns, but they aren’t “wide.” Hence the term “Tight” Ends… they’re close to the formation… tight… not wide. That’s not 5 wide. I would think a coach would know terminology and formations a bit better…

  134. Coach Elkins Says:

    5 WR meaning there are 5 men to enter the pattern…if necessary…TE’s lined up next to the tackles…

    5 Pass catchers might have delivered my point more appropriately

  135. Coach Elkins Says:

    Careful Steve…

  136. Toyz Says:

    I heard that we picked up Kellen Heard? does anyone know?

  137. Coach Elkins Says:

    The terminology used to get into formations in the NFL is outdated…

  138. SteveAlford21 Says:

    If you go double-tight, empty backfield, you still only have FOUR receivers who are split out (slot, flank, wide, twin). That’s not 5 wide.

    To make the point again, Elkins… there is no such thing as 5 wide with two tight ends.

  139. Coach Elkins Says:

    Like running windows 95

  140. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Elkins, you didn’t say a five receiver set… you said 5 wide.

  141. Coach Elkins Says:

    Its a base set…which all evolving Offenses have to be able to use….

    Personnel Group
    Z
    2nd TE/FB-Most likely a guy who can do both
    Y TE
    X
    TB-who can run routes and catch

    ______________

    We are simply misunderstanding each other…

  142. 4evaRaider Says:

    Hey yeah….

    where in the world is Tommy Trojan?

  143. SteveAlford21 Says:

    And in a double-tight set, even though both tight ends can go into patterns, they aren’t considered receivers because they are lined up next to the tackles at the LoS. That’s why they’re called TIGHT ENDS. They are at the end of the LoS and TIGHT to the formation. If the weren’t within arm’s reach of the Tackle, they would be called SPLIT Ends (WRs).

  144. SteveAlford21 Says:

    WRs meaning WIDE receivers… WIDE meaning that they aren’t TIGHT to the formation.

  145. SteveAlford21 Says:

    This isn’t NFL terminology… it’s basic football terminology… from EVERY level of play.

  146. Raiders4eve Says:

    Toyz

    Yeah we got him. He is mean and can play both position DT and RT. He is the one who took Colt McCoy out of the game!!!!

  147. Coach Elkins Says:

    When I told you I was shifting my TB out of a double tight set I assumed you knew I was entering a formation whereby I can get 5 pass cathcers into the route….

    I don’t care what “YOU” call em….there are 5 skill guys…

    Personally…I call that set Stud 37 or Stud 73…depending on where I shifft my TB

  148. SteveAlford21 Says:

    I never played in the NFL, but I played semi-pro… and the terminology for positions was the same at every level throughout my life. The terminology as far as plays go was different, of course, but PLAYERS and positions… same.

  149. Coach Elkins Says:

    Again…I understand that Steve…it is basic football terminolgy…I use neither!

  150. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    You guys that don’t like Campbell on on that rock.

    You don’t like what Campbell has done….tell me what Gradkowski has accomplished in comparison…..

    We have a bonnafide starter who has had success in this league and has completed more passes than not.

    You have to be REAALLY negative to hate what the Raiders have done the last 3 days

  151. Coach Elkins Says:

    The NFL uses numbers for their routes…and words for their sets…

    I use the opposite

    I use numbers for my sets and words for my routes….

    Much more effective…

    Also allows your defense to call out entire sets and communicate with a visual conception in their head…rather than conventional presnap strength

  152. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Elkins,

    You may have meant that you would have 5 guys who could run patterns, but that’s not 5 wide. You can have five guys get into patterns from ANY set, so your argument there is stupid. You’re just backpedaling and trying to cover where you screwed up. You called it a 5 wide set with two TEs and it’s not.

    To make the point again, you can get 5 guys into routes from ANY set, so your new argument in post #147 doesn’t fly. You were either flat out wrong before… or you simply misspoke… and you refuse to admit it.

  153. Coach Elkins Says:

    I use a new animal…whereby the whole team communicates the same language…easily catalogued for reference by the brain….

  154. 4evaRaider Says:

    Not negitive SnB….Like you I give props when deserved.

    JC vs BG….

    let the fun begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  155. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Elkins,

    We are not discussing terminology for plays and alignments specific to the NFL. We are discussing the fact that you said you could have a “5 wide with two TE” set. This is impossible. WIDE means that you are not TIGHT to the formation. In order to line up 5 WIDE with double TIGHT, you would be short on linemen.

  156. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Elkins,

    The whole team can’t be on the same page and speaking the same language when your language is completely WRONG. If you want to say that being able to go into a pattern makes you “Wide,” then the FB is wide, too. You were wrong.

  157. Coach Elkins Says:

    All of this began is response to your post…#122…and out of that set my reply was to shift my TB to the slot….creating a set whereby 5 WR/players or pass catching individuals could get into the secondary….

    Sorry u misunderstood steve..

  158. Thec07 Says:

    Coach Elkins Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
    I use a new animal…whereby the whole team communicates the same language…easily catalogued for reference by the brain….

    +++++++++++++++++++++++=

    Sounds good… You are getting into the psychology, what is your W-L record, and at what level do you coach?

  159. Raider O Says:

    Campbell!!!
    McClain!!!
    Houston!!!
    Wimbley!!!
    B Campbell/ Valdheer!!!
    KR/ PR J Ford!!!

    Thank You Al & Fat Monkey!!

  160. Coach Elkins Says:

    Not in my terminolgy it isn’t…I don’t even use the word wide…I was using it to describe 5 players who could catch the ball…

  161. SteveAlford21 Says:

    I didn’t misunderstand anything. You are wrong. Even after the Tailback shifts, there are still only three WIDE receivers. The tight ends are TIGHT… they are not WIDE. You can keep trying to rationalize it all that you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that you’re wrong.

  162. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Al still likes guys who can knock the other teams QB the eff out!

  163. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Never mind, we’ll move past it.

    To which post or posts of mine were you referring when you said excellent?

  164. Toyz Says:

    Raiders4eve thnx the guy sounds like a beast and if we use him on the D-line theres the big guy we need to help Mclain

  165. Coach Elkins Says:

    Give me a set and I’ll tell you how I would call it…

    your post #122 is Ace 33
    If I shift my TB to the right…it becomes Stud 37
    regular pro set is I 23/unless there is strong I or Weak I or Split Backs
    The colts 3 wr set is Ace 43 or 34
    The 5 Wide set is Stud 48 or 84 depending on the trips side

    There are over 400 formations with the 5 skill guys…and I have a small label for each…not a sentence which takes up time and no one can visually understand or comprehend unless you know it

  166. M Lonetree Says:

    wow, what kind of universe did the elk-thing come out of? yes, his own obviously as it bears no relation to any known reality or fact or reason of being. I wonder why it is here? Ah yes, to entertain itself. As all mirages and wisps of fancy, it too shall pass.
    Good luck there elk-thing and don’t let JaMarginal sit on you on his way out the door.

  167. Coach Elkins Says:

    All of your posts were excellent…

  168. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Are you familiar with the term “monster linebacker” in terms of responsibility?

  169. Thec07 Says:

    Coach Elkins Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
    Give me a set and I’ll tell you how I would call it…

    your post #122 is Ace 33
    If I shift my TB to the right…it becomes Stud 37
    regular pro set is I 23/unless there is strong I or Weak I or Split Backs
    The colts 3 wr set is Ace 43 or 34
    The 5 Wide set is Stud 48 or 84 depending on the trips side

    There are over 400 formations with the 5 skill guys…and I have a small label for each…not a sentence which takes up time and no one can visually understand or comprehend unless you know it

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Sounds good… You are getting into the psychology, what is your W-L record, and at what level do you coach?

  170. Coach Elkins Says:

    Yeah…or Mike

  171. SteveAlford21 Says:

    I suppose “roving” or “spy” would be more conventional.

    My responsibility and positions were Strongside CB for press coverage in 4-3 and “Monster LB” in 3-4 alignments.

  172. Coach Elkins Says:

    Only heard it called monster on pee wee games..lol but whatever

  173. aig Says:

    Guys, why do you bother with Elkins and notice I didnt bother with Coach….

    Anyone who compares Morrison as better than Ray Lewis is a bonafide and certified idiot. Let him and Rackoflamb go at it. It cracks me up when people come on a blog to try to prove they are EXPERTS. The rest of us blog on here as fans but some like to come on here to prove they are Experts.

    Dont blog for free Elkin. Go get a job and make sure the first line in your resume is Morrison is the next Ray Lewis.

  174. aig Says:

    Nice Article on Alex Daniels, DE from Cinci. I hope he makes the team.

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    “You’ve got to struggle to succeed,” says Cincinnati defensive lineman Alex Daniels, who lost a scholarship at Minnesota.

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    “He’s persevered through a lot,” cornerback Brad Jones said. “He’s made some bad decisions in the past, but he’s really matured. When I first met him, he was like an immature little boy. But now he takes care of his business both on and off the field. He’s a great guy to be around. And he’s very animated. He isn’t putting on a show; that’s really how he is.”

    It was the animated Daniels who became the angry face of the Cincinnati football program after Kelly abruptly announced he was taking the Notre Dame job and would not coach the Bearcats in the bowl game. Since then, he has had time to calm down and said his angry comments reflected the love he feels for Kelly.

    “If it wasn’t for him, I wouldn’t have had a chance to play again,” Daniels said. “So I felt like he was more of a father figure, a role model, somebody that was in my life that was pushing me to be better. And once that happened, I felt like I lost a father because I never had one growing up. And that’s why it hurt me so bad.”

    While Cincinnati has had its share of adversity this season, Daniels said the opportunity to play Florida and against quarterback Tim Tebow on a national stage is the dream of a lifetime. He calls this game “my national championship” but insists he’s playing for more than just a victory.

    “I want to change the cycle in my family,” he said. “I want to be the one that everybody looks up to in my family. I want them to say, ‘He was the same person that I grew up with, but he made a different decision to be a better person and not let the streets take over his life.’ ”

    “Nothing really bothers me anymore,” he added. “After being through what I’ve been through, nothing really bothers me.”

  175. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Mike and Monster aren’t the same. Mike is the Middle Linebacker in a 4-3 set. Monster is the same as spy or roving LB in 3-4. It would be the ILB on the Strongside if he was freed from convention and allowed to read and react or align wherever he wanted pre-snap.

  176. Coach Elkins Says:

    what is your purpose in telling me where you played?

  177. SteveAlford21 Says:

    You may have heard Mike called Monster in pee-wee by people who didn’t know what Monster was.

  178. Coach Elkins Says:

    Ah..I get ya…

  179. SteveAlford21 Says:

    What is the purpose in letting us know that you are a coach?

    It was information that I felt like sharing with the class.

  180. Thec07 Says:

    So coach elkin, over your lifetime as a coach, what is your W-L record?

  181. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    He can’t hear you Thec, he’s busy talking to himself.

  182. M Lonetree Says:

    Aig,

    I get it. the elk-thing is a Josh Mcdaniels-type wannabe trying to pump himself up after f*cking up the entire donkey roster and then giving the reins to Tbone.
    He’ll be lucky if he only has a Sewage Disposal Station named for him.
    The haterism was obvious and now the identity is clarified.
    The pi$$ down our backs and tell us it’s raining rang of infantile futility elk-thing. Time to move into a new mental crevasse. Dismissed!

  183. 4evaRaider Says:

    Colonel Clink!

  184. Coach Elkins Says:

    My purpose here is to share the truth as I know it to be regarding the immediate future of this team….My handle of Coach is implied in all areas of life…and while football in this forum is assumed…I understand its implications..

    Thec…my record is unimportant…

  185. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Houston, we have a problem

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/2010_off_season

    With a move back to DE, the former Texas DT could be part of the solution.

  186. Coach Elkins Says:

    I like Josh McDaniels…gifted young kid and coach

  187. Zymurge Says:

    Ya know, from maybe the middle of last season until right up before the draft, there was a pretty strong voice here and elsewhere saying that Cable had to go. “He’s not a real coach … just Al’s yes man … the only one that will take the job …”

    Then we have one of the best drafts in some years, Cable gets a ton of credit for it (and rightly so IMO) and those voices are all but vanished.

    Times they are a-changin’ . . .

  188. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    What a pompeous jackass.

  189. Thec07 Says:

    Thec…my record is unimportant…

    coach elkin, not trying to come at you or anything like that. Your methodology does sound interesting, just wanted to know how effective it was/is.

    I am okay with you not sharing your W-L record, but by not answering speak volumes…

  190. raideralex99 Says:

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
    You guys that don’t like Campbell on on that rock.

    You don’t like what Campbell has done….tell me what Gradkowski has accomplished in comparison…..
    ________________________________________________________

    Hello … Redskins did not make the playoffs with Campbell at QB … enough said.
    The only good thing about the Campbell trade … JaMarcus is out the door.

  191. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Great draft. Looking forward to seeing our new weapons and attitude.

  192. M Lonetree Says:

    Of course you do elk-thing. Of course you do.

    4eva,

    you clearly identified the caricature of the most ineffectual coach/commandant. LOL.

  193. Coach Elkins Says:

    We’ll see I guess won’t we?

  194. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Zymurge,

    I have been backing Cable from the start. I wanted an Offensive Coordinator so that there could be more ideas thrown in and the HC’s workload would be lessened. The four passes on our goalline was a horrible decision, yet somehow I can see the rationale behind it… and there were a couple of other series that were questionable, but I definitely didn’t want him fired for it… just wanted more help.

    It’s kind of like how I feel regarding Al: I don’t want him to die or retire, I just want some COMPETENT people in the Front Office WITH him to help out and get a better flow of information and ideas going… because Al can’t do it on his own… and has spent the past seven years proving that.

  195. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    THEC ,IF HE HAD A WINNING RECORD,HE WOULD HAVE POSTED IT ALREADY,IF HE IS A COACH AT ALL..

  196. Coach Elkins Says:

    I did answer you…I just didn’t give you the response you wanted!

  197. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Coach Elkins Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
    I like Josh McDaniels…gifted young kid and coach

    ================

    To be at the NFL level yes, I agree, but his moves (gutting the offenses pro bowl weapons) and a panicky questionable draft make me think he is wrecking this team instead of giving it the push it needed to get over the hump.

    I expect them to be worse than they were last year.

  198. 4evaRaider Says:

    Have a GREAT evening Nation!

  199. Thec07 Says:

    Like I had been saying for weeks, This would be the first year we drafted logically, I would post that, and sometimes got ridiculed by it.

  200. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Elkins,

    I have to agree with my boy Thec: Anyone with a record over .500 would share it. Someone with a record under .500 who feels that there are extenuating circumstances or valid reasons for a losing record would share it. Someone with something to hide or one who feels ashamed of their record would do as you did and say what you said.

  201. Coach Elkins Says:

    I do have a winning record!

  202. 4evaRaider Says:

    Ooooooops….thankx M Lontree!

  203. Coach Elkins Says:

    So then why is Cable our Coach?

    Whats his record..in college…below .500 I know

    and 9-19 is a joke

  204. Coach Elkins Says:

    Especially with the players on this team

  205. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Hey 4Eva!

    Take it easy!

  206. SteveAlford21 Says:

    I have no problem with a losing record. Hence no problem with sharing it. Extenuating circumstances and all.

  207. Coach Elkins Says:

    Mr. Davis has my resume….so far he feels no need to use it…no worries….I’m a patient man…and the Raiders will not win until then…

  208. Coach Elkins Says:

    Again, I have a winning record…but if I didn’t…it wouldn’t change what I know at all…

  209. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Elkins,

    So you’re saying that the Raiders will not win until Al Davis hires you?

  210. Thec07 Says:

    Coach Elkins Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
    I did answer you…I just didn’t give you the response you wanted!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Ansewing that your W-L record as “unimportant” is not answering the question, yes you did give me an answer but if the methodology was so great as you propose, It would speak even louder if you had something to back it up with like;

    Pop Warner
    W-L

    High School
    W-L

    College
    W-L

    NFL, CFL, UFL, Arena
    W-L

    Your non answer says that your system may not be that effective…

  211. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Elkins,

    Regarding post #208: That was my point exactly. I believe Cable’s record is bad because of the situations he inherited, not bad coaching. The record can be BECAUSE OF good/bad coaching or it can be IN SPITE OF good/bad coaching. That fact is why I can’t understand why you would be reluctant to post your record.

  212. M Lonetree Says:

    Zymurge,

    you’re a definitely incise mental creature, so tell me, what precisely would be the reason or reasons that a person would constantly preach negativity into any equation ( a la MR or elk-thing or RRon). Is it some sense of hoping to feel superior to others by instilling hopelessness? Is it a need to feel crass with regards to the view of others? Is it a way of bypassing responsibility by engaging a seeming status quo and then never having to admit to anything?

  213. Coach Elkins Says:

    My non answer doesn’t mean anything you say…your approval is not needed…never will be….

    Steve…no, they will not….

  214. GG Says:

    This is why I love Richochet. He steps in when he smells BS and exposes it. Elkins stepped in previous thread and just took over it, rambling about how great he is and how he will get in the door, and all about “me, me”. Say this cos he later tries to deflect saying “stop talking about me, im not talking about me.” But if given the chance of taking over a thread, all he wants to focus on is how good he is, etc, which is boring. We wanna talk Raiders, not some crackpots trying to pretend they’re something they’re not or promoting theyre resumes/knowledge to garner attention etc.

    ———–

    # Richochet Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 10:55 am

    Ahh…”Coach” Elkins.
    A little info on Elkie.
    This poor slapped on sap was one of the favorite punching bags at the Raiders blog on MVN.

    Elkie? You stupidly took me on regarding the Raiders, AND ESPECIALLY AL and left whimpering like a little child..

    This idiot posted how he was a “top coach” with extensive credentials, that the Raiders “knew all about him” and that was just a matter of time before he got hired as THE HEAD COACH, lol.

    Until I got him to admit he NEVER talked to anyone on the Raiders. That no one EVER took his “calls” and how, after getting him to post the area he “coached” in, it turns out he WAS A COACH (I think asst.) ON A HIGH SCHOOL IN SOME TINY TOWN, AND THEN GOT FIRED FROM THAT JOB….

    Yeah,….GOT FIRED!!

    that’s it, lol.

    Oh..and he also cheered the MASSIVE WISDOM OF AL DAVIS IN PICKING JAMARCUS RUSSELL.

    And he used the same stupid copouts “Oh, you slapped me down? You insulted me? You took my bait. haha”

    Only thing missing? Is this dumbass guaranteeing that he’s going to be the next head coach of the Raiders.

    “They should fire Shell and hire me. You watch. They will.”
    “They should fire Kiffin and hire me. You watch. They will”

    And like here?
    When he gets totally slammed down, he’ll DISAPPEAR UNTIL HE THINKS EVREYONE FORGOT HOW INEPT HE WAS..and meekly show back up.

    So…uh…Elkie?
    Any calls from Al….lately? lol

    OH THAT’S RIGHT..you posted something the other day that you “shared something” with Al Davis??

    Liar.

    Where’s Kush? He used to post on MVN..he remembers Elkies sorryass.

    ———-

  215. Coach Elkins Says:

    My record is of no importance….

    Was Josh McDaniels record prior to him beating Oakland in game 1 last season important when we lost 23-3 at home

  216. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Elkins,

    They who will not what?

  217. Zymurge Says:

    Alford — agree with you all the way around. I’ve been on the Cable bandwagon since day one. It’s clear that he has a different way with Al than others and is able to at least find compromises with him. Now that he seems to have built more credibility with Al, it looks like he’s giving him more of the reigns. This draft was the biggest indication yet. Next, letting him pick his own assistant coaches will be key to him being able to confidently offload some of the duties that he overburdened himself with.

    I’m not saying that Cable is by any means a great HC yet. But I’m VERY impressed with what he’s been able to do thus far considering the circumstances. Now that it looks like he has growing control over his destiny, we can really start to judge how good he will be.

    Oh, and I take him over Singletary in a heartbeat as an HC based on what I’ve seen from each thus far.

  218. Thec07 Says:

    Coach Elkins Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
    My non answer doesn’t mean anything you say…your approval is not needed…never will be….

    Steve…no, they will not….

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Thanks for admtting you didnt answer…that was too easy…lol

  219. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Oh… got it. Raiders, winning.

  220. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    GG:

    I believe I have to agree with you. I always thought Rickosheeet was wrong about everything but in the case of this pompeous jackass who talks to himself, he’s right.

  221. M Lonetree Says:

    josh elk-thing

    as you are of no importance

    disssssmissssed!

  222. Coach Elkins Says:

    I was never fired…I did resign from coaching after 5 seasons with a winning record, made the playoffs last 3….for reasons of principle…….at a school which hadn’t won a game in 5 years….

    and since I left…is 7-43 over 5 seasons…

    Been actively pursuing employment with Mr. Davis for 3 and a half years!

  223. Thec07 Says:

    So coach elkins in reality you are a hater….
    You hope, and pray this team is unsuccessful so you can say I told ya, and possibly get the head coaching job..Makes sense to me, but “IF” you were that good teams would be knocking on your door, and judging by your W-L record, you wont be hearing knocking aytime soon on a NFL level soon…

  224. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Zy,

    I wouldn’t rush to judgement, but I’ve liked what I have seen from Cable from the start (except the OL moves last year… that was atrocious and a few questionable playcalls). Anyone doubting his sway with Al is blind… the fact that Al took Cable’s side when Tom cold-cocked Al’s lackey speaks VOLUMES. I would bet even-money right now that Cable will be the Raiders GM a few years down the road.

    Al seems to trust Cable’s judgment and has his back. I support that completely. Al has done great things in the world of football, but he needs to put some trust in others and let them run with it. That appears to be the road we’re on now and I like it.

  225. Zymurge Says:

    Lonetree — LOL at “incise mental creature”! I’ve been called a lot of things, good and bad, in my time, but that’s one of the funniest in this context :-)

    To answer your question, it’s the phenomenon known as the internet behind it all. It’s a new paradigm in freedom of speech where people can psuedo-anonymously be whatever they like in a wide variety of forums. It’s pretty fascinating really to watch how things like trolling have invented themselves. The psychology behind why people post as they do is way beyond me. Each to their own to do whatever floats their boats.

    Good or bad, positive or negative, I see it all as a big social experiment that, if anything, is pretty entertaining to watch unfold. And better to have people with their little virtual wars in here than out on the street beating on each other, so from that perspective maybe it’s actually a healthy thing in the grand scheme of things.

  226. Coach Elkins Says:

    Doesn’t the guy Cable cold cocked still have a job?

  227. Coach Elkins Says:

    Nice post Zmurge!…even if you are attempting to label me…

  228. ohioraider Says:

    Gotta laugh at this: such a small blurb of a “news” item provokes 227+ responses. LOL!!

  229. JB Says:

    This is my first chance to post since the draft. I think we did great even though I would have liked more O-linemen.

    I can just see Al Davis communication to JaBustus; You know JaMarcus, I’ve told everybody that you were a great talent and to get over it. I’ve thought it over and here’s your new pay schedule. Your a great talent but I got over it. Take the pay cut or haul your schit outta here by tomorrow at 5PM. Oh yeah, don’t bother looking for another team to pick you up. That’s been handled. The only open spot for you is taking Ryan Leaf’s title as the biggest bust ever. So I guess what I’m telling you is to plan on a lot smaller paycheck and a clipboard or you better go get fitted for another Madi Gras robe cause that’s all you got to look forward to. Your history you big dummy. And, it not the type history anybody would want.

    Personally, I think JuDummy is too dumb to take the pay cut and remain in the league. Either way, it’s a win-win proposition for the fans.

    What’s priest’s take on his hero’s exodus? Somehow I don’t think he saw this coming.

  230. aig Says:

    What do you guys think will be our record for this year? Last year, we stumbled to 5-11 with the Jawalrus at the helm. Had we started Grad and Frye, we’d be at 7-9 or 8-8.

    With new blood from trades and draft, I think 9-7 is not out of the question. 10-6 would be a stretch but I think 9-7 is more than doable.

    I see us doing 4-2 in our div. by splitting with Denver/SD and sweep KC. I see 3 of out 4 from NFC West.That makes 7 and the other 2 will come from Jags/Tenn/ind.

    Why Colts? They will rest their starters by week 17.

  231. M Lonetree Says:

    elk-thing,

    you label yourself. there is aught need of other.

    regardless of Zymurge’s discourse upon the societal ramifications of the utilization of internet fora, there must be a reason that one such as yourself would don the cloak of holier-than-thou-art-know-it-all in such a miniscule venue (global as it may be) as the RaidersBlog.

    smallness of being comes to mind. and yet I do believe that yours is more the plague of self-aggrandizement which beleaguers so very many in this world of non-accomplished souls.

  232. ohioraider Says:

    2010 Record entirely depends on Al agreeing to recede into the background; not coaching from his wheelchair, whether we implement some zone coverage; eliminate 7-step drops, let the coaches coach without undermining their authority–you know, being a professionally run organization, etc.

    It has to do with Al finally recognizing his weaknesses as a one-time genius whose time has passed him by. Regrettably, I’m convinced he’s the kind of megalomaniac who thinks that he can do it one more time with his philosophy, just to stick it to his critics. I think that’s sad, and therefore would consider an 8-8 season a huge advancement. But there won’t be any more SB wins with Davis running things. No f-ing way.

  233. M Lonetree Says:

    AIG,

    19-0.

    print that.

    all games are winnable. why not?

  234. Coach Elkins Says:

    Lonetree..have heard the word self-aggrandizement used since TODD CHRISTIANS​ON said it years ago….

  235. Coach Elkins Says:

    By the way…your worm is on the ground…might wanna bait your hook again!

  236. Coach Elkins Says:

    6-10 but 4-0 in preseason is my prediction

  237. GG Says:

    # Coach Elkins Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    I was never fired…I did resign from coaching after 5 seasons with a winning record, made the playoffs last 3….for reasons of principle…….at a school which hadn’t won a game in 5 years….

    and since I left…is 7-43 over 5 seasons…

    Been actively pursuing employment with Mr. Davis for 3 and a half years!

    ——–

    Who gives a shyte. Of what importance/relevance has all this got to do with Raider-football? It’s ok at times when we digress and talk politics/religion, because it’s a community discussion. This is just irrelevant ramblings of an Al Bundy who scored 4 TDs at Polk High.

  238. Coach Elkins Says:

    Tennesse L
    St Loius W
    Arizona L
    Houston W
    San Diego L
    San Fran L
    Denver L
    Seattle L
    KC W
    Pitt L
    Miami W
    San Diego L
    Jacksonville L
    Denver W
    Indy L
    KC W

    6-10

  239. Zymurge Says:

    Coach Elkins — my reply wasn’t targeting you at all. I was just answering a question in the abstract. We all bring some form of insight into whatever forums that we participate in. Is up the readers to decide what they will or won’t give credence to.

    Lonetree — your thesaurus-fu is powerful! Careful, or an accidental football fan might think that they are in the wrong blog :-)

  240. 4evaRaider Says:

    :)

  241. vegas raider Says:

    Anyone else just a tad concerned that Jason Campbell’s best statisitical season happened the year he had his worst won-loss record?

    I remember 1997 when Jeff George broke almost all the single season Raiders records for a QB. We also went 4-12.

    I am excited to give Campbell a fresh start and see what he can do. Not trying to be negative, but his tenure at Washington has a little bit of a stink to it, IMO.

  242. Coach Elkins Says:

    I apologize my friend…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJdfWdIBfE8&feature=related

  243. Coach Elkins Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCDj48OdDeA

    WAKE UP RAIDER NATION….

  244. Raiders4eve Says:

    Tennesse L Stop the run, force VY to win with his arms
    St Loius W Easy win!!! Bet big….
    Arizona W No Quarterback
    Houston L Too much Shaub
    San Diego L Rivers is bad
    San Fran W We own the bay
    Denver W R u kidding me?
    Seattle W Seattle is one of the weakest teams
    KC W Eric Berry will get exposed!!!
    Pitt W we won them once, win them again
    Miami L They are a tough team to play late
    San Diego L Rivers again, Damn
    Jacksonville W Kirk wont stop Bush, Gerrard sucks
    Denver W Tebow should start this game, jk lol.
    Indy W Colts time to rest y
    KC W

    11-5 or 10-6 if you wanna mark Steelers lose, Raiders win the division if we win one against SD

  245. RaiderRon Says:

    Hey…. my “special” friend 4eve is back. And by the looks of it hes still “special”. Your schedule prediction is ludicrous but thats ok because you are after all “special”

  246. RaiderRon Says:

    Gonna start from the top and go down…..

    Arizona: No QB…… And the Raiders do have a QB? The Cardinals have been to the playoffs 2 years in a row and are only 2 years removed from a SB appearance.

    Arizona wins by 10

  247. jhill Says:

    Couldn’t agree more 4eve!

    11-5 and we win the division!

  248. RaiderRon Says:

    San Fran- The Niners are light years ahead of the Raiders in the re-building process.

    9ers by 14

  249. Raiders4eve Says:

    Ron

    Whats so ludicrous about my prediction????

    We got a weak NFC West and weak AFC West, we can beat Denver*2, KC*2, SD once, win against Rams, Arizona, Seattle, 49ers and get one more win against the Jaqs. Thats 10 wins right there, I dont see any of those teams being better then us. 49ers are good team, I think Alex Smith will get injured this year, their OL needs time to develop and this year unlike previous years, teams will find it hard to run against us. 10 wins is achievable.

  250. RaiderRon Says:

    Denver- Ru kidding me?

    WTF does that even mean?? To suggest in any way that Denver is somehow worse than the Raiders makes you a fool.

    Denver by 3

  251. edward teach Says:

    Vegas,

    What’s to be concerned about? We gave up a 4th round pick in 2012 for the guy. If he can’t play we’ll know soon enough.

    He threw for 3600 yards and had a passer rating in the mid 80’s. He was also sacked 49 times. The head coach got fired.

    I would say there’s probably a bit more than quarterback play involved in that 4-12 record.

    As I said earlier, let’s see him play for our team for awhile before passing judgement on the guy.

  252. RaiderRon Says:

    4eve,

    YOU OR IDIOTS LIKE YOU SAY THE SAME F IN THING EVERY YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUS CHRIST!!!! Other teams are improving too, not just the Raiders. The Raiders arent anywhere near good enough to assume a win over ANY team. I mean you guys are like a freakn broken record!!

  253. RaiderRon Says:

    The o-line hasnt improved.

    The RBs are worse and are mediocre AT BEST.

    The WRs are below NFL standards.

    QB is unsettled.

    LBs are weak.

    The Raiders will not win 8 games this year. Period.

  254. Raiders4eve Says:

    Ron

    You are an idiot. Denver lost their best weapon Marshall and we beat them end of the season. They didnt address key players positions in this draft, they are going into camp without a starting QB, Orton might win it but so could Tebow or Quinn.

    Denver regressed so did SD

  255. Raiders4eve Says:

    The Raiders addressed the OL, Campbell and Veldheer are capable players.

    The LB is solid with McClain and Wimbley

    Our team has improved and we still adding more talents.

    Last year, with JR starting we were beating good playoff teams, this year we improved significantly.

    What kind of fan r u?

  256. RaiderRon Says:

    What needs did Denver not address? This should be good.

  257. RaiderRon Says:

    Campbell and Veldheer are capable?? Says who? I know you never watched a play either of them played.

    Wimbley is solid? When? Where?

  258. Raiders4eve Says:

    They lost their best TE,
    Dawkins is getting older,
    Nose Tackle was a need

  259. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Ron,

    Denver did not address the need to trade their entire offensive line and defensive backfield to us for a 6th round 2011 pick.

  260. Raiders4eve Says:

    They also needed a MLB since they lost Andre Davis, OL is question mark

  261. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
    Anyone else just a tad concerned that Jason Campbell’s best statisitical season happened the year he had his worst won-loss record
    =======================================================
    Vegas, come on man!

    Gradkowski gave us a spirited couple of games and will make a fine backup…but to question Campbell’s resume, but then, at the sametime through unquestioned support behind Gradkowski’s resume is really unbelievable.

    Campbell has had dozens of Gradkowski type games….and that’s when the opponent has thoroughly game planned against him.

    Gradkowski’s resume is not even close in comparison. They paid Campbell $3.4M and extended him next year for another $4M+.

    Let the competition begin and lets see how it shakes out.

    Again, Gradkowski will make a fine backup

  262. RaiderRon Says:

    Oh well hell, Denver may not win a game all year! LOL!! Dude actually mentioned losing a backup TE as a loss! LOL!!! Then has the balls to say OL is a question mark even though the Raiders line is among the worst in football!! LOL!!

  263. bcz24 Says:

    Ryan Clady may be one the best olineman in football… Dungver has many deficiencies but that aint one of ‘em

  264. edward teach Says:

    Interesting stat regarding Jason Campbell. His red zone passer rating last season was 110.9, and he threw for 18 touchdowns with no interceptions. Tied for the NFL lead with Carson Palmer of the Bengals for most red zone TDs without an interception. His red zone completion percentage was 62.1. Raider QBs combined red zone completion percentage: 39.4

    Another interesting stat; his completion percentage on throws over 20 yards was the lowest in the NFL. Even more interesting is the fact that Bruce Gradkowski and JaMarcus Russell were 1 and 2 in the NFL in completion percentage over the same distance.

    None of those stats tell the whole story obviously, and they can all be interpreted a number of ways, but I thought they were interesting nonetheless.

  265. RaiderRon Says:

    Oh and they signed Jamaal Williams for your NT argument so…….

  266. aig Says:

    RaiderRon,

    Wimbley has been considered at least a solid player. When PFT announced that Wimbley has gone to us, a lot of Browns fans commented how he is their only productive guy on the D. I dont follow Wimbley and I will base it on their fans reaction. Plus I would bet that Wimbley is better than Scott/Morrison/Howard.

    Denver – Based on the track record of WR’s in general being successful in their first year is VERY low, I will bet that WR Thomas is not going to do anythign special in his first year. If anything, Decker will be a more accomplished WR. They got rid of all their playmakers in Marshal and Sheffler. You dont replace playmakers immeidately in one draft. The probability of that is quite low. Their strength was their D. Yet they got rid of the guy who was responsible for their D. We have split with them the past 3 years with Jawalrus at the helm. I think they will struggle mightily this year. They finished 2-6 last year so in essence they were exposed for who they are.

  267. JB Says:

    Jason Campbell’s arrival with the Raiders reminds me of the way Gannon came to town. One can only hope the results and rise of the Gannon era can be replicated by Campbell. If nothing else, Campbell’s arrival was the twig that broke the Jabustus bubble. We are NOT looking at another year of status quo. we will have a top 10 if not 5 defense. We will have much improved performance from the offense. Hoping too, that the coaching & preparation will be better also.

  268. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You could give us the pro bowl roster and Al would find a way to screw it up. That’s why I’m not necessarily excited about this year’s decent draft. I give Al props for at least not doing anything stupid. But like I said, he will find a way to screw things up.

  269. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Here we go.

    JB Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    Jason Campbell’s arrival with the Raiders reminds me of the way Gannon came to town.

  270. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Teach,

    I think its incredible for some that are challenging Campbell’s credentials but are so ready to sell-out the season with Gradkowski at the helm.

    Unbelieveable to me.

    Campbell was a starter for 4 years and only traded with a coach change…Gradkowski was trying to get an invite to the St. Louis Rams camp roster last year and was trying out for the 3rd string QB position with the Raiders….I love Gradkowski’s grit and all that…so if he is such a great QB, he should have no problem beating out the much maligned Jason Campbell

  271. SteveAlford21 Says:

    SnB,

    You and I have agreed on a great many things. I think that behind an improved offensive line, Gradkowski can consistently give us a A- to B- performance. Behind the same line, I see Campbell giving us A+ to C- performances. As someone who has watched every game that Campbell has played in the NFL, I am wary of him. There are lots of negative factors that helped drag him down, but there were times when his reactions to negativity on the field made me question whether I would want him QB’ing my #2 team (Skins) and made me definitely hope that he didn’t end up playing for US. I wanted us to get Troy Smith from Balto (in a package deal with Gaither), but that didn’t happen. I feel that his downside isn’t as risky as Campbell’s, but anything is better than hoping for the best with JR.

    The bottom line, though, is that I would rather have consistent performance from Grads than wavering performance from Campbell. Anyone who doesn’t think Campbell is the front-runner for the starting job is insane, though. You don’t give him an extension worth over 4 mil if you don’t think he’s on track to start, barring great play by Grads or a miracle from JR, Boller, or Frye. The race will be between Campbell and Grads. I hope that Grads finds a way to avoid injury and plays as well as possible and we get back to the playoffs and then find a QB of the future… but if Campbell can get us 9 wins, I will be all for him. Realistically, I think we’re at least a 7 win team this year and I won’t be satisfied with less than 9.

  272. aig Says:

    Who knows if Campbell is the guy or not. Listen, with last 2 year’s roster and Jawalrus at the helm we were 5-11 both years. How many more wins would we have gotten last year had Grad or Frye started from the beginning?

    This year we added more talent and it is universally accepted that we had a good draft. Without Jawalrus, one can reasonably expect even an 8-8 season.

  273. jhill Says:

    Here we go.

    ——————————————————-

    LMFAO!

    I was thinking the same thing.

    Rich Gannon, huh?

    I sure hope he brings some type of scrambling threat a la Gannon.

  274. EMRaiders Says:

    Here’s what I call a more realistic season for our team.

    *Tennesse L
    St Loius W
    *Arizona L
    *Houston L
    San Diego L
    San Fran W
    Denver W
    *Seattle L
    KC W
    Pitt L
    *Miami L
    San Diego W
    Jacksonville W
    Denver L
    *Indy L
    KC W

    I do see us finally beating SD once. Not twice, but only once. And only if our running D is actually improved. We will split with Denver too, but I really think we have a good chance to sweep KC again.

    The games with an “*” next to them are games I see as winnable. Again, only if our running D is improved, and only if our passing game makes some strides. Big ifs but not an impossibility. We are probably looking at a 6-10 or 7-9 season. But it could go either way. It really is up to the players and coaches to make this work. There’s a long road ahead.

  275. Raiders4eve Says:

    Ron

    Jammal Williams is over 36 yrs old and was injured most of it last year. Their TE Scheffler was a starter what the hell you know about football?

  276. edward teach Says:

    Jamaal Williams is damaged goods, and I’d be willing to bet he doesn’t even play the whole season. He missed all but one game last year because of injury, is 33 years old and will be starting his 14th year in the NFL.

    If he was still any good the Chargers would have kept him.

  277. Richochet Says:

    # Coach Elkins Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    I was never fired…I did resign from coaching after 5 seasons with a winning record, made the playoffs last 3….for reasons of principle…….at a school which hadn’t won a game in 5 years….

    and since I left…is 7-43 over 5 seasons…

    Been actively pursuing employment with Mr. Davis for 3 and a half years!
    ===================
    LIAR.
    Your ass was canned.
    After exposing you, you then came on and said “It was mutual”
    You also stated how you won it all almost immediately, which was a lie, and that the whole program fell apart after they fired you, which is also a lie.

    The ONLY thing you’ve copped to is you CAN’T GET A JOB ANYWHERE in coaching…at any level.

    High schools don’t even want you.

    It’s simple. IT’S BECAUSE YOU SUCKED AS A COACH, AND YOU GOT FIRED.

    and oh geez…are you back on that idiot “I have my OWN TERMINOLOGY?? Where you dumbed it down so YOU could follow along, which you’re assuming everyone will now change?

    lol…no wonder years later your retarded ass is still blathering the same silly take..

  278. stucktrader Says:

    There are a couple FAST, SUICIDAL hitting type of LBs from Hawaii. Brashton Satele & Blaze Soares. Able to cover in space and not afraid to be human missles.

    Oakland still needs one of those TREE STUMP DTs. For short yardage situations.

    Oakland also could use a couple OL who can play C or G.

    Anyway, i hope Oakland got that Satele kid. He can hit…

  279. jhill Says:

    I think that behind an improved offensive line, Gradkowski can consistently give us a A- to B- performance. Behind the same line, I see Campbell giving us A+ to C- performances.

    ——————————————————-

    C- for Campbell as a floor, but only a B- as a floor for Grads?

    That’s a pretty bold statement.

    I question Gradkowski’s floor of a B- more than anything else.

  280. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    SteveAlford,

    Problem is Gradkowski has never done it before. He’s never been a 60% passer…never done it before…his career stats are awful…everything you think he can do is based on your observation of two football games…of which…only the Steeler game was considered top QB performance.

    If Campbell can give us 3500 yds, 20TDS, 64% completion…we win…and he’s done it, your personal observations aside. Gradkowski has the same completion % as JaDavis.

    When you project Grads, you are ignoring his injury issues (which matter) and the fact that three other teams didn’t like him for whatever reason.

    Let the competition begin. I don’t think Gradkowski stands a chance.

  281. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    5-11.

  282. edward teach Says:

    SnB,

    Agreed. Jason Campbell is not an elite NFL quarterback and I don’t think he’s in any danger of becoming one, but he’s a heeluva lot better than anybody else on the roster, and it isn’t even close.

  283. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Kinda stupid arguing about what Denver has or doesn’t have. We need to make it irrelevant what the competition has. I saw one guy say the AFC WEST is a P Rivers away from us. That cowardly approach is lame as hell. I rather beat SD with Rivers in the game.

    Derelicts

  284. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Mr. O’Shea,

    I did my best to explain to Elkins how he doesn’t know wtf he’s talking about football-wise, both in terminology and in philosophy. The reasons for his firing are self-evident. If you think anyone in the formation who can get into a pattern is referred to as “wide,” then you are clearly not a good coach. I used how many posts… ten or so… to try to get through to him and teach him a thing or two about x’s and o’s and it was all to no avail. I guess some people are just uncoachable. ;)

    Have you finally watched “Big Fan” yet?

  285. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Richochet,
    I asked SeymourGlen about JaMeatballs being a “bonafide” Qb now that he is finished and he didnt even try and deny it, instead he used Mayock as a cover.

    Maybe our little feller OakGlen/Seymour has givin up on denying his aliases ?

  286. Norco Bob Says:

    Brian is at a place in Jack London Square called Kinkades,…just sent me a cell pic of Jason Campbell and Hue Jackson sitting together at a table it looks like,…for all you shut-ins in the east bay who never leave the house,…(old man fatboy kell), you should get out more, like brian,..might see some things.

  287. Kirk Says:

    Both Campbell and Gradkowski are good quarterbacks. Campbell is more durable, and thus more suited to start.

    With either one we win eight games this year, I think.

  288. Richochet Says:

    Wish it felt more like Al had his stamp on this draft.

    It just seems so Un-Al like.

    I know, I know..”If you’re going to blame Al, then he should get the credit.)

    This draft was common sense. Seriously, wasn’t any big reaches. Took players, with the exception of a few later round reaches, that filled a need, and that was a solid project.

    Again, that’s just not Al, IMO.

  289. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Norco,
    Kinkades is a over priced yuppy joint whats Brian doing in there ?

  290. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brian needs to get back to tending the bathroom at Kinkades before he gets fired.

  291. Mistabr0wn Says:

    The injury bug has went from the Warriors to the A’s. I hope the Raiders dont get hit.

    Go A’s!!!

  292. Norco Bob Says:

    5-11 MR?…you really think so?…why is it bro that you wake up in the morning mad?..negative…why is that?…youre a cool hip Sactown dude,..enjoy things bro,..only old fools like old kell have a legit reason to be unhappy,..you dont, you should try and be the glass half full guy for a change, you will be glad you did. hey now….by the way I had a few pops with Carmichael Dave at Arco last night,..pretty exciting that MMA stuff,…Jared Allen was there too.

  293. Mistabr0wn Says:

    MR,
    Does it make you feel better telling somebody on a Blog to clean a bathroom?

    Drama queen..

  294. Richochet Says:

    # Mistabr0wn Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    Richochet,
    I asked SeymourGlen about JaMeatballs being a “bonafide” Qb now that he is finished and he didnt even try and deny it, instead he used Mayock as a cover.

    Maybe our little feller OakGlen/Seymour has givin up on denying his aliases ?
    =========================
    He’s so easy to drip up, he can’t even remember who he’s posting as.
    I’ll say “Hey Oakglen, are you going to answer the question?”
    he then answers, lol…albeit in a confused manner.

    Kind of funny when he carries on a previous conversation he has as Seymour, while posting as Debo, then switches back.

    Kind of like a bobble head doll ;)

  295. aig Says:

    not sure if you guys read this but this is pretty funny shcytt from PFT….

    Earlier this year, the Chargers traded cornerback Antonio Cromartie to the Jets. The man who has fathered multiple children with multiple women made an appearance at Radio City Music Hall on Saturday, when the league has a hard time keeping the audience amused during the latter rounds of the process.

    And so a small but loud pocket of fans amused themselves by greeting Cromartie with this chant: “feed your kids!”

  296. Norco Bob Says:

    MR,…ease up on brian,…hes at every game with me man,…hes a cool dude,..youre always welcome to tailgate with us,..got a ticket for you too.

  297. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Richocet,

    Post #284 was directed to you, bro.

  298. RaiderRon Says:

    Daniel Graham started all year, but hey, why let the truth get in the way of a good story right 4 eve??

    Would bet had the Raiders signed Jamall Williams you and all the like would be saying how great a pick it was. LOL!

  299. Norco Bob Says:

    Mista,..its just MR,..hes for whatever reason the guy in the room thats always unhappy,..has nothing to do with the raiders.

  300. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Norco, believe me, you have a legit reason to be unhappy, too.

  301. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB, I’m a liberal. I can tell people to clean bathrooms all I want to and it doesn’t come off rude or classless. Ha ha.

  302. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    I won’t take anyone’s dream away. But I will tell you right off the bat, that Campbell is a more accurate passer than Gradkowski AND he has a stronger arm.

    Campbell help make Cooley a pro-bowler…I know Zach Miller has to be excited.

    Anyway, once Gradkowski gets “healthy” it should be an interesting offseason competition

  303. Norco Bob Says:

    I sent pic brian sent to me to Jerry,…maybe Jerry can post it, its a cool pic of Jason and Hue,…good times ahead Raider fans,..sorry MR, clearly that doesnt sit well with you.

  304. Richochet Says:

    # SteveAlford21 Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 7:04 pm

    Mr. O’Shea,

    I did my best to explain to Elkins how he doesn’t know wtf he’s talking about football-wise, both in terminology and in philosophy. The reasons for his firing are self-evident. If you think anyone in the formation who can get into a pattern is referred to as “wide,” then you are clearly not a good coach. I used how many posts… ten or so… to try to get through to him and teach him a thing or two about x’s and o’s and it was all to no avail. I guess some people are just uncoachable. ;)

    Have you finally watched “Big Fan” yet?
    ===========
    Damn…lol…I knew you were going to ask.

    Actually started to watch it the other night while in a poker tournament..started winning and I had to pay attention.

    As far as Elkie the Idiot? Yeah, I saw that…really started laughing when he pulled out that weakass “Oh…THAT terminology? I use my own.”

    Which means he had his ass handed to him, and feigning dis-interest in the correct terminology is what he does when he says something stupid, and then gets schooled on it, resorting to “Oh, well, you just didn’t understand me” in lieu of the obvious, that he doesn’t understand himself.

  305. edward teach Says:

    Aig,

    Eagles fans, Jets fans and Giants fans all in the same room at the same time.

    Mayhem.

  306. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Bob,

    In case something happens that makes one or both of us lose contact in the blog arena before the season, email me at The_Smoking_Man@yahoo.com because I DEFINITELY want to go to a game with you this season… the first regular-season game that’s good for you will work for me… so as soon as you figure out which one, I’ll buy my plane ticket immediately. :D I’ve never tailgated before, ya know..

  307. Norco Bob Says:

    Hang in there MR,…cheer up old buddy. Im rooting for your full recovery.

  308. armond Says:

    wassup jhill!! now that russell is most likely out of the equation the grads groupies think he’s better than campbell. they wont quit until bruce just gets the job.

  309. Norco Bob Says:

    Anytime Steve,..pick a game, I have 4 tix.

  310. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    No need to root for my recovery, Norco, because I’m not rooting for yours. I hope tonight’s the night you finally swallow the whole bottle.

  311. Norco Bob Says:

    Steve,..I will send you a pic brian just sent me,..Jason and Hue in some restaraunt in Oakland.

  312. Norco Bob Says:

    Why you wish harm on me MR?…what is it this time?…or is this just another one of your pissed off nights?…lighten up Francis.

  313. SteveAlford21 Says:

    That’s one of my chess-playing id’s, so if anyone ever wants to play some 1/0, log into yahoo chess’s advanced lounge or advanced lounge 2 and look for that one or steve_alford. ;)

  314. Raiders4eve Says:

    Ron

    you such good liar my friend, Scheffler started nine games last year, I think he was injured two and got into McDaniels the rest, why lie?

  315. Norco Bob Says:

    MR,..Im serious, let me treat you to a game,..tailgate included,..pick a game, meet us in A lot,..all good, we wont ambush ya man,…we dont roll like that.

  316. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    To wish you harm Norco is to wish the world peace. I’m looking at the bigger picture.

  317. aig Says:

    Teach…but it is still pretty darn funny though. the Chant She Said No to the Steelers will be heard again this year.

  318. Richochet Says:

    BTW…MR has finally met his match…

    Elkins, as is OBVIOUS, is a pathetic attention whore..comments are designed for one thing, one thing only…TALK TO ME…REPLY TO ME…STAY WITH ME”…EXACTLY LIKE Real MaddenMoron.

    Matters not the content, or the intent, just that it says something/anything so someone/anyone who will reply with something/anything, again, matters little if it makes sense…

    ….both love the attention, in their small man, quirky insecure way.

  319. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I’m serious too, Norco. Drink just enough tonight to decide to swallow that whole bottle of pills. Hope Brian’s there to wipe the foam from your mouth and give you CPR.

  320. vegas raider Says:

    SnB,

    Why does any questioning of Campbell have to become a Gradkowski-Campbell square off? Clearly Campbell is the most talented QB on the roster, with the most experience, and has been more “successful” using that term very loosely.

    I’ve watched Campbell and never been that impressed. The wrap on him is as Nmamdi21 called it perfectly “Jamarcus light”.

    Big arm, accuracy issues. Not a big leader. So far, draft disappointment.

    A fresh start could be exactly what he needs. He is the starter heading into the clubhouse and at is rightfully so, his job to lose.

  321. aig Says:

    Steve,

    Aren’t you too smart to be a Raider fan and play chess? You’re like my friend who is a Raider fan that graduated from Harvard.

  322. Norco Bob Says:

    Sent the pic steve….brian took it, and now hes at their table,…pretty cool stuff.

  323. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Richochet, your comments are designed to remind people of what happens if they don’t let the 80’s go. Your brat pack era, tough guy slang is just rad.

  324. Norco Bob Says:

    Relax MR,..anyway, the invitation to any game you like is always open,…cool?…Im in Diamond Springs,…we will even pick you up in Sac.

  325. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Bob,

    I really have to find out what the regulations are about prescription medications on flights. I don’t drink beer and they probably frown upon having whiskey at the coliseum, so I’ll have to bring some perc30s and 15s with me… all legally prescribed to me, of course. I wouldn’t want to presume to invite myself to the home opener because I’m sure there are others dying to go, but if that’s okay by you, then mark me down for Sunday, September 19th against the Rams! I’ll be there, bro… if you need me to bring anything, just let me know. Go Raiders!

  326. Coach Elkins Says:

    Whatever you guys say?

  327. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Two hits, richochet. Me hitting you and you hitting the floor. Bud.

  328. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    armond Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
    wassup jhill!! now that russell is most likely out of the equation the grads groupies think he’s better than campbell. they wont quit until bruce just gets the job.
    =======================================================
    Yeah, the Grads guys think he’s better than Campbell but they don’t base it on anything tangable.

    Or maybe its 1 half of 1 game that has them believing.

    The real issue is that JaDavis was so bad, he made Gradkowski look the Lord and Savior in comparison.

    Fortuantely for all of us, a new set of eyes came in here, Hue Jackson, and set everyone straight.

    Short of injury, it will be a major upset for Gradkowski to beat out Campbell.

    And Campbell, unlike JaDavis, does know how to work and will be walking in and out of that building at the same time Gradkowski is.

    I dont think the competition will be close.

    Campbell was brought here to get this team over the hump and it is also the classic type of QB the RAiders have succeeded with.

    A former starter with some success that needed a fresh start.

    Not a journeyman who was in the right place at the right time

  329. edward teach Says:

    Aig,

    I was a little disappointed that they didn’t show more of the Cowboys’ picks live.

    It’s hilarious to listen to the Philly and NY fans when they do. They start booing before the commissioner even gets to the podium, and sometimes you can barely even hear the pick.

  330. Norco Bob Says:

    MR, …will you refuse the invitation because of all the things youve said about brian?…and fear we might hurt you?…I promise you we wont…you and us, row 1,…its going to be awesome!!

  331. armond Says:

    watched my recording of the draft and i must say that i really like what we did. i really like the mcfadden pick cuz we need some dbs bad but ill admit it wouldve been nice to get conner at fb.as much as i wanted it to work with russell i cant disagree with going after campbell. he instantly upgrades this offense over what we have.damn glad kirk is gone tho i thought we could get atleast a 5th rnd pick for him. how the hell is groves worth a 5th but kirk isnt?

  332. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Sure, Norco. I’ll meet you guys at a game. Or, we can watch it from whatever rehab center you’re at, trying to get use of the right side of your face again, after your OD.

  333. Coach Elkins Says:

    Richochet

    I love that you can’t get my name out of your mouth…please continue….

    If I’m such an attention whore…why bother?

  334. Kirk Says:

    I can hardly wait for the season to start.

    I bet the mini camp is going to be different than last year as well.

    No more reading about how awful JR and DHB are…

  335. Norco Bob Says:

    Steve I flew to Orlando last month,..had about 200 Norcos on my carry on,..no prob.

  336. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brian hurt me? Is he still mad about me making fun of his fat girlfriend?

  337. Norco Bob Says:

    Pick a game little buddy,…not opener or Colts though…any other game I will hold a ticket for you.

  338. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Bob,

    Awesome pic! Thank Brian for me and let him know that I’ll be there for the game!

  339. Norco Bob Says:

    We wont bother inviting fatboy old kell,…he wasted a night for brian, they were supposed to meet but the old man never showed,..but we would love to have him at out tailgate also….hope he likes classic metal.

  340. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    lol. this is hilarious!

  341. vegas raider Says:

    The big positive on Campbell? Big down the field, CONSISTANT arm.

    I have seen Campbell throw some beautiful deep balls, 60+ yards down the field. Between Jamarcus just fluttering and telegraphing his bombs, and Bruce being limited with the deep ball, Campbells’ 60 yard perfect spirals will be impressive.

    I know our WR’s are much happier today.

  342. Norco Bob Says:

    Ya steve,…brians at their table now,..just sent me another one,..cool stuff.

  343. Norco Bob Says:

    Vegas,..please tome down the optimism,…it bothers little MR.

  344. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    you guys are way too cool for me. Talk to you later. Richochet, no mercy, man. No mercy.

  345. Norco Bob Says:

    I gotta run steve,..keep in touch…will also send you some cool tailgate pics.

  346. Bob Marley Says:

    Here’s a realistic take on Jason Campbell from a local writter, from last season:

    “It’s time for the town and the franchise itself to appreciate the 27-year-old, who is a restricted free agent after this season, for what he is — a competent, gritty, middle-of-the-pack quarterback — and not damn him for what he’ll probably never become — a top-shelf star.

    There are 12 quarterbacks on the planet who are clearly better than the one the Redskins already have. Their names are Brady, Favre, Brees, Manning, Manning, Rodgers, Rivers, Warner, Roethlisberger, McNabb and, probably, Romo and Schaub, too.

    There are also about a dozen other quarterbacks in the NFL who are just about as good as Campbell, give or take a bit. Statistically, they are grouped around his passer rating of 85.3 — quarterbacks like Kyle Orton, Joe Flacco, Carson Palmer and Matt Hasselbeck…”

    I agree, Campbell is in the next tier of QB’s below to the top shelf stars, we didn’t have a guy like this and to get him under a reasonable contract and for a 4th round pick in 2012, it’s a steal.

  347. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Bob,

    If you’re still here, check your inbox… I replied to the pic with my normal email address for you to use instead of the inbox for my chess id.

  348. vegas raider Says:

    Bruce Gradkowski = Best backup in the league!!!

  349. bcz24 Says:

    Jason Campbell is a perfect 2 year stop gap. Look at the big picture for a moment. There will be a rookie cap and we can get a top QB in the first round of 2012, maybe next year even if we trade back into the first round. Hell Campbell might just be the guy, but there is NO WAY he is worse than Jamarcus Russell.

  350. Bob Marley Says:

    Good night…

  351. armond Says:

    snb we will hear it all season long so just be ready for it. these idiots on tv who criticize the ford pick dont understand that his value to us is that he is a return man which is what we need bad.he is a better wr than given credit for and we arent relying on him for that anyway. i like when people use the term reach when drafting in the mid to late rounds. most of the guys drafted people arent aware of. its more about the position with me unless i know more about the players.

  352. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Should Mr. Vehldeer win the starting LT as some speculate, I do believe Mr. Henderson will simply be shifted to RT, where I think he will be much more successful.

    Mr. Jason Campbell can scramble when needed, thereby Mario’s sacks will be cut in half, plus I think this will boost his confidence and he will be able to dominate the slower DEs.

    We will have a young solid bookends for years to come.

    I still see a little Bruce in Bruce (that is Smith in Campbell, if you are following my lead).

  353. bcz24 Says:

    Agreed Armond. I think its hilarious that people call a 6th or 7th round pick a reach.

  354. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Aig,

    I don’t know that it’s possible to be too smart to be a fan of the Raiders… all teams have fans that are intelligent and fans that are stupid. I’ve loved the Raiders since I was a kid and the current struggles and recent bad decisions are no reason to turn on them. It makes me demand improvement, demand that Al gets some smart bastards in the Front Office to help him (and accepts their help and listens to their opinions), demand that Al gives Cable some more authority, and demand that we do whatever needs to be done to get back to relevance and then dominance… but it never could make me stop being a fan of my team.

  355. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    It will be interesting to see Campbell operate in the same system for 2 or 3 years….you never know.

    plus, we scrapped that WCO stuff and now are more of a downfield attack, that will suit Campbell better…allow him to take more chances.

    He executed whatever offense they asked him.

    All we need is “middle of the road” right now.

    Plus, Plunkett and Gannon were “middle of the road” or worse when they came to Oakland.

    This is a perfect pick for the RAiders…..

    and is better than picking some rookie. The Raiders haven’t developed their own QB from scratch in almost 40 doggone years.

    That is a waste of time. We have a former 1st round pick that has shown progression, shown some success on the field and now MIGHT BE ready to take his game to the next level AND has something to prove

    Both Campbell and Gradkowski will show up early and stay late….while Frye is in the backroom cutting up film and helping the coaches.

    JaDavis will be in Alabama coming in late and sleeping late and eating like a King

  356. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Armond,

    I know. you know what will be intersting….is when Campbell completes one of his 60% completions to guys like Ford and McFadden in space.

    This team is all set…..got competition going into camp and optimism.

    I am looking forward to this season and we won’t have to worry about “North Korea Like” media reports about how well things are going. It will be legit.

  357. aig Says:

    Steve,

    I have been a Raider fan since 1983 and I can always spot a Raider fan vs a Niner Fan. You are the far and few.

    btw, have you ever been to Radio City for the draft? I plan on going whenever the wife is ready for a trip to NY.

  358. vegas raider Says:

    Besides Rolando McClain, I am most excited to see Bruce Campbell.

    I don’t even know if he would be any good. But Tom Cable, for whatever it is worth at this stage, was once considered one of the premier Offensive line coaches. He has never had a freak athlete like Campbell. Coach Cable seems convinced to move him to RG almost immediately it seems, and who knows, it could turn out in spades for us.

  359. Raider75 Says:

    Anyone here an espn insider?

    If so, I am interested in some draft grades. Post some stuff here about the Raiders if you don’t mind.

  360. armond Says:

    snb it will also be interesting to see if we actually open holes in the running game so dmc can get going. im more concerned with short yardage situations that will require us to show some toughness. i hope oneal is ready to go back to his old form before his injury. who knows how good campbell will be but he could turn out to be better than what most think. a little confidence and stability never hurt anyone.

  361. Kirk Says:

    No more reports from mini camp about how JR can’t complete passes in a drill against NO DEFENDERS!

  362. Coach Elkins Says:

    lol

  363. aig Says:

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/09000d5d817cb0d2/Raiders-draft-recap

    I’m tell you all. By getting rid of Jawalrus as our starting QB is an A+ in grading the draft alone. Most analysts forget to mention that we added a legitimate starter in Wimbley for a 3rd pick as well.

  364. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Aig,

    I’ve never been to the draft and truth be told, never really WANTED to go… it always seemed like there was way too much tedium involved. When I moved to Pacifica a few years back, it felt like I was finally getting to Mecca after 26 years of waiting. Moving back here to Virginia last fall was kind of heartbreaking, but I was in love and came back for a woman, so I dealt with it. I might have to give heavy consideration to going back if my next business venture doesn’t take off (I’m going to open another computer shop in the building next to the tattoo shop… if I can chase out the owner, who has been threatening to retire and close his used car dealership for a few months). I might be living back in Bay Area again… I’m thinking maybe Daly City or Granada… not far from Oakland and S.F., but no hustle and bustle to speak of.

  365. aig Says:

    Vegas,

    dont be surprised if Uncle Al decides to be a “Genius” by flipping Campbell to DT…..you watch i called this first.

  366. aig Says:

    Kirk

    Our first true test will be whether our QB can complete passes to the WR without the defenders.

    The second test is the annual scrimmage with the Niners in camp.

    2 key areas.

  367. armond Says:

    getting to jruss for a minute its a damn shame he could let his career come down to this so early. the hell with any of us who supported him but to disgrace his family and friends who all care about him is disgusting. i was all for him trying to come on strong but sometimes u just gotta cut the cord if someone wont cooperate. regardless of what cable says i dont believe u can bring him back even if he does renegotiate now that weve brought in campbell. if they do ask him to and he says no then ill be the first one of his supporters to kiss his azz goodbye. there is no way u can tolerate that kind of arrogance.

  368. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Oh, and on the subject of Niner fans… omfg, I HATE those bastards. I couldn’t even go to Tanforan without those bastards starting crap. Daly City and Serramonte weren’t too bad, though… but any time I went to S.F. (always wearing at least a Raiders hat, usually a hoody if it was cold), the effeminate followers of their team would always yell retarded crap… but never when I was walking toward them or facing them… always after I had gone through a door, ya know.

  369. JB Says:

    Bruce Campbell & Henderson on the right side are a definate upgrade from Carlisle & the mop handle. Veldheer & Galery on the left side should be very dominating. All we need now is a real center. Any FA centers of worth still out there?

    What’s the status of Oren O’Neal? I find myself in a highly positive mindset. Our D should now be a top 10 if not 5 performer and we should have an offense that could be very effective. I’m wondering if they will move Huff to LCB to make space for Mitchell to be in the backfield. We’ve got a solid backfield, a potentially very strong LB group and a D-line that should be able to bring some heat. I like it. We may have just turned the corner.

  370. Kirk Says:

    Aig, we are going to kick azz.

    New quarterback, new middle linebacker, improved O and D lines, better return game…

  371. aig Says:

    Steve,

    My ex-wife family is from Daly City. Man they got tons of Filipinos there and it’s way over crowded. Pacifica and Halfmoon Bay are cool places. When we move back in 2 years, I hope to be in either Halfmoon Bay or Santa Cruz. We’re currently in Memphis.

    As to Niner fans, they’ve been bragging about how their team is so much better than ours until I reminded them that we now have a better QB (at least on paper) than them.

  372. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Well, I’m sure there are a lot of cool people who are Niner fans, but the vocal ones in the BA are definitely punks. I didn’t want to lump them all together, but you usually characterize an entire group by their loudest members.

  373. SteveAlford21 Says:

    I lived near the top of the hill on Grand Avenue back toward Pedro Point in Pacifica. I loved the view, but it stayed a bit chilly all year long there. Nevertheless, it was good times… I really miss it.

  374. aig Says:

    Kirk,

    When you take a moment to think about it, we’re a completely new team.

    Key changes

    Jawalrus —-> Campbell/Grad
    Howard/Morrison/Scott —->Wimbley, McClain, Scott
    Cornell Green —-> Veldheer/Barnes
    New Dline —–>Houston/Seymour/Kelly/Matt S.
    The WR corp gets more experience.
    Plust Hue Jackson is calling the plays vs Cable.

    Huge changes man. Huge.

  375. aig Says:

    brother you aint kidding about being cold and windy…in the middle of SUMMER.

  376. fat kidd Says:

    how come mel kiper is the only one saying are draft was bad?

  377. SteveAlford21 Says:

    I especially missed the ONE good thing about S.F. … making a daylong visit to the Mechanic’s Institute to play high-level chess with IMs, NMs, and MCs. That was really the only reason to go to that city… maybe Murphy’s was worth it, too… okay, Tommy’s Joynt on Geary and Van Ness was awesome if you were up late and hungry… but other than that, there’s nothing cool there!

  378. SteveAlford21 Says:

    I also liked taking Geary all the way to the Asian side of town for some good candy, but I don’t consider that part of the city.

  379. SteveAlford21 Says:

    For food, I would usually go to Redwood City and hit up Pho Dong… I LOVE that place!

  380. fat kidd Says:

    Raiders to release Jamarcus Russell

    ——————————————————————————–

    Mike Lombardi on NFL Network says they will release him in the next week or so.

  381. aig Says:

    Fatt,

    Cuz we didnt take his advice on Clausen.

  382. Kirk Says:

    Aig, you are right we are a completely different team. With McClain and Campbell we have new leadership on both sides of the ball.

    Here are some old Jason Campbell highlights…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVPthlhGb54

  383. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Fat Kidd,
    How come you are ignorant and use “are” when you should have used “our” ?

  384. fat kidd Says:

    well we made out better claussen a rookie would have to learn campbell can step right in and win games day 1

  385. vegas raider Says:

    Never has the phrase “addition by subtraction” carried more meaning that the case of Jamarcus Russell.

  386. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Good news to Filipinos everywhere: AIG tries to avoid you guys. Trust me, you guys get the better end of the stick on this one.

  387. fat kidd Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
    Fat Kidd,
    How come you are ignorant and use “are” when you should have used “our” ?

    ………………………………………well i been on this site for months and picking up bad habits from you!!!

  388. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Not from me you are not. I’m pretty sure you were ignorant a long time ago Fat Kidd, no offense ok

  389. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Fat Kidd,

    You our retarded. You bring all are IQ’s down just by being here. You insult are intelligence with your comments and you our a disgrace to your idiotic parents. Are team, are fans, and are bloggers all want you to leave.

  390. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Bad news for Asians in general, though. Steve Alford actually seeks out your parts of town for the food. If you hear some guy rambling on about redundant Raider stuff while trying to sound like he knows everything about race and culture, it’s him. Don’t worry, he’s harmless. And he tips well to absolve himself of guilt for evading taxes.

  391. SteveAlford21 Says:

    I hope that most of you are intelligent enough to know that post #389 was satire meant to mock Fat Kidd.

  392. SteveAlford21 Says:

    RMR,

    You actually are correct about me tipping well and evading taxes, but there is no correlation between the two.

  393. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    SF, Steve Alford says you’re not cool. Fail. Try again, San Francisco.

  394. Mistabr0wn Says:

    LMAO @ Steve

  395. fat kidd Says:

    SteveAlford21 Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
    I lived near the top of the hill on Grand Avenue back toward Pedro Point in Pacifica. I loved the view, but it stayed a bit chilly all year long there. Nevertheless, it was good times… I really miss it.

    Pedro Point in Pacifica………….our you coming out of the closet this is a gay community

  396. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Fat Kidds brains = 1 hamster and a rusty wheel

  397. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Now we know what he meant when he said “top” of the hill.

  398. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I think in Daly City’s Flip Town AIG was at the “bottom” of the hill a time or two, perhaps in the county drunk tank.

  399. aig Says:

    Kirk and all,

    here is a youtube of Jason Campbell….my observations.

    1. He can hit the open man as compared to the greatness of Jawalrus. At this point, I dont care about threading the needle. Just hit the open guy. Checked.

    2. He has a strong arm. This is better than Grad.

    3. His TD vs int is extremely good for a young QB on a struggling team. So we know he aint no int machine.

    4. We dont know about the most important part between the two ears. But I hear that he has high football IQ.

    5. I do hate his throwing motion. If you notice from his college highlight and this highlight below, he drops the ball down low during his windup. that is similar to (but not as bad as) Tebow.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlFAowFUG8w

  400. fat kidd Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
    Fat Kidds brains = 1 hamster and a rusty wheel

    ……………………if ignorance was bird droppings id have to clean your cage!!!

  401. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB, your brain is a blank being fired in a musket on the confederate side of a civil war reenactment.

  402. aig Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
    SF, Steve Alford says you’re not cool. Fail. Try again, San Francisco.
    ———-
    Mr. help me understand what you are trying to say here.

  403. fat kidd Says:

    mb if your brain was gasoline you could not run a ants go cart!!!

  404. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB’s brain is the last cloud of white dust that shot out of Zell Miller’s dong.

  405. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    AIT, Alford said that San Francisco isn’t cool. That must crush them. It’s like they have to start over, now.

  406. fat kidd Says:

    nb if brains were money you would have to take a loan to get a cup of coffee!!!

  407. SteveAlford21 Says:

    I lived on Grand Ave… lots of families there. If it was a gay community, they hid it pretty well.

  408. SteveAlford21 Says:

    RMR,

    Let me rephrase: the things that I listed were the only things that were worth going to S.F. for ME. I’m sure it has plenty of its own good and bad, but I’m allergic to seafood and didn’t find much else in the city that I liked besides the things that I listed.

  409. fat kidd Says:

    steve your teeth are so yellow when the dentist saw them he said “i gott sunshine on a cloudy day”!

  410. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Fat Kidd,

    Stop trying to troll me. You won’t get a reaction other than this notice to let you know that you’re wasting your time.

  411. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    If brains were airplanes MB’s would be a kite.

  412. fat kidd Says:

    steve Learn from your parents’ mistakes — use birth control

  413. fat kidd Says:

    mb Your girlfriend is so ugly, the trashman won’t even pick her up

  414. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Oh, l don’t think Steve will need birth control. He lived in Pedro Point, tsk tsk.

  415. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Also,

    I never ran into Danny Tanner or Becky Kotsopolis ONCE in the city of San Francisco.

  416. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB’s girlfriend is so ugly skunks are afraid she’ll piss on them.

  417. Richochet Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    AIT, Alford said that…
    #################

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    MB’s brain is the last cloud…
    #########################

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    SF, Steve Alford says
    ##########

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    Bad news for Asians in general, though. Steve Alford actually seeks out your parts of town
    ==========

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    Good news to Filipinos everywhere: AIG tries to avoid you guys.
    ======================

    Damn dude…how pathetic can you get, GeekBoy?

    Doesn’t matter what anyone says to whoever…you just rush from post to post, so freaking desperate for attention.

    Are you that bored in life?
    Seriously..are you honestly so void of anything to do that you’re reduced to just sitting here, hoping for someone to throw you a bone?

    You are one sad little fella…that is for sure.

  418. SteveAlford21 Says:

    RMR,

    I said I lived on Grand Ave TOWARD Pedro Point, not in Pedro Point. If you start out at Linda Mar and go toward Pedro Point, then turn left on Grand before getting to Pedro Point, you’d be where I lived. I was basically right up the hill from Linda Mar beach.

  419. SteveAlford21 Says:

    And on that note, I’ll stop feeding the trolls.

  420. fat kidd Says:

    mb Your butt is so big, you have more crack than a drug dealer

  421. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Richochet, save it for the rumble.

  422. Richochet Says:

    Wow…you come on here, and look at the sorry juvenile takes from MR and Fattkid….a new low for this board.

  423. fat kidd Says:

    steve your breath is so bad when you breathe your teeth duck

  424. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Richochet, no jazz before the rumble, apeface, you know that.

  425. fat kidd Says:

    mb you’re so ugly that when you were born, the doctor looked at your mom and said, ”This is going to cost extra if I have to touch its ass.”

  426. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Steve’s breath smells like Pedro’s point. I mean…pedro point. Wow. What a difference punctuation can make.

  427. fat kidd Says:

    steve you’re so ugly, your mom had to be drunk to breastfeed you!

  428. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Steve was born in front of a crowd of a hundred people…at the zoo.

  429. fat kidd Says:

    steve you’re so ugly, when yo’ mama dropped you off at school, she got a ticket for littering!

  430. Nnamdi21 Says:

    fat kidd Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
    steve your breath is so bad when you breathe your teeth duck

    ====================

    Breath so bad have to sneak up on a glass of water to get a drink.

  431. fat kidd Says:

    steve if ugliness were bricks, you’d have enough to build the entire city.

  432. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Steve’s so ugly his mother only let him leave the house on halloween.

  433. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Is this kind of stupidity the reason that the AM crew speaks with such disdain of coming here at night?

  434. fat kidd Says:

    steve you’re so ugly, I took you to the zoo and the zookeeper said, ”Thanks for bringing him back!”

  435. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Houston’s got holes, but Cables got a plan…

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/2010_off_season

  436. fat kidd Says:

    steve you’re so ugly that when you were born, your mama said, ”What a treasure!” And your dad said, ”Let’s go bury it!

  437. aig Says:

    man…reading this chytt gives me that weird vibe…something tells me that at some point Tebow will come out as Gay, maybe later in life. I have seen this type of gay people before. Some of the best dressed, well groomed and physically fit guys I have known in my work environment have been gay. There is nothing wrong with being gay but I’m just saying that Tebow is that type of guy to me. People who are so one sided is usually trying to hide the other side.

    from pft….

    Tebow, McDaniels made instant connection
    Posted by Mike Florio on April 25, 2010 11:04 PM ET
    When the Broncos traded from the fringes of the top ten into the twenties on Thursday night, Sam Farmer of the Los Angeles Times turned around and said they’re trying to get Tebow. And though the Broncos ultimately traded back into round one to get him after grabbing receiver Demaryius Thomas with the 22nd overall pick, the Broncos made it happen.

    As Lindsay Jones of the Denver Post points out, the eventual marriage was sparked by a 15-minute session at the Scouting Combine, when Tebow met with coach Josh McDaniels and other members of the Broncos’ contingent.

    “I was jacked leaving that room,” Tebow said. “I didn’t even want to visit another room. It was not enough time. We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome.”

    McDaniels agreed. “We left [the Combine] saying, ‘Boy, that’s pretty unique, what he has and his passion for this game and for winning.’ He’s been a winner, and you could see why.”

    Tebow has a plan for winning the affection of the rest of the organization. “I’m going to have one goal and that goal is to earn the respect of my teammates and coaches,” Tebow said. “That’s the only goal I have. It’s not to be the starting quarterback right now, it is to earn their respect, because when you earn respect from people, then they begin to like you, and then they believe in you, and then they begin to love you, and then you have a team that is united and cares about each other more than anything else.

    “Then you go out there and you play for each other, you play for your coaches and you win championships.”

    Whether the last part happens remains to be seen. But we’re not ready to bet against the Broncos, or against Tebow.

  438. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Uh oh, the AM crews speaks of us with disdain.

  439. Nnamdi21 Says:

    SteveAlford21 Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
    Is this kind of stupidity the reason that the AM crew speaks with such disdain of coming here at night?

    ===================

    Affirmative

  440. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    redneck vocabulary:

    Disdain = Dis dain remote’s outta batteries!

  441. fat kidd Says:

    steve you’re so ugly that when you walk into the room, the mice scream and jump up on chairs.

  442. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Steve’s so ugly a plastic surgeon put him under then threw him in front of a bus.

  443. fat kidd Says:

    steve you’re so ugly, your dog has to close its eyes when it humps your leg!

  444. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Tim Tebow and his girlfriend look great together. He couldn’t have picked a better cousin.

  445. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Well, at least some of it is original. None of it’s very good, but points for trying.

  446. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Steve’s so ugly when he goes camping bears try not to leave any of their food out.

  447. fat kidd Says:

    steve you’re so ugly, you didn’t get hit with the ugly stick — you got hit with the whole damn tree!

  448. vegas raider Says:

    I don’t think Tebow will be that great of a QB, but I would have rathered seen him go outside of the division.

    Same with Ryan Matthews, Eric Berry and Javier Arenas.

    I like having a new beast of a MLB though. No Jamarcus and a physical D? You saw Cable’s shirt Thursday night. This guy is “geeked”, looks ten years younger and seems ready to roll.

    Tom Cable 2010 COY candidate.

    How’s that sit?

  449. fat kidd Says:

    steve you’re so ugly, you have to get your hand drunk just to masturbate.

  450. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    5-11. How’s that sit?

  451. aig Says:

    wow Vegas, you are now a Cable fan? or did I mistake you for Dakota?

  452. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Vegas, what would you be willing to wager on Cable being COY? How about the Raiders winning 8 games?

  453. DKnight007 Says:

    I like the signings of Tonga, Guy and Parsons!

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Tonga winds up being the starting FB. He is a beast and can move the chains, score TD’s and can catch the football!

  454. fat kidd Says:

    cable better have a winning season or it will be his last

  455. vegas raider Says:

    The Raiders ARE winning 8 games, you can book that.

    And if the Raiders go 8-8, and it’s not one of those start 7-3 and finish 1-5, Cable will probably get 3rd or 4th in COY votes.

    9-7 we could win it, and if we go 10-6 he would be a lock for it.

    A little wishful thinking, but Cable’s really in a pretty good place to get a lot of the credit if the Raiders do well.

    And I think we will.

  456. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Got ya for 8 games, Vegas. I’m going with 5. We’ll see. Wishful thinking…hmm. I don’t think the books have a clause for that. Either you’re making the bet, or not. Starting to face reality?

  457. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Last season should have been his last, Fat Kidd. 0 game improvement from previous season?

  458. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Vegas,

    I would put money on 7-9 or better. I believe that we are AT LEAST a 7-9 team right now… but I won’t be satisfied this season with just .500.

  459. SteveAlford21 Says:

    That means I want more than 8-8.

  460. vegas raider Says:

    Put me down for 8 wins. The casino’s originally had us at 5.5 as the line.

    Curious to see if Campbell, no Jamarcus and a little draft love bumps up the number.

  461. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Just making sure that none of you were stupid enough to think that I meant that 7-9 was .500. The two statements were completely unrelated. We are at least a 7-9 team. I won’t be satisfied if we only get 8-8, though.

  462. fat kidd Says:

    they were saying if they cut jwalrus,cable will get the locker room back,if they dont he will lose the team

  463. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Vegas, you’re down for 8 wins. I’ve got 5. Guess I’m in trouble, because you only pick winners. That’s what you said before.

  464. fat kidd Says:

    SteveAlford21 Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
    Just making sure that none of you were stupid enough to think that I meant that 7-9 was .500. The two statements were completely unrelated. We are at least a 7-9 team. I won’t be satisfied if we only get 8-8, though.

    ……………………..steve you’re so stupid, your mother told you to go buy a color television and you asked, “What color

  465. vegas raider Says:

    Jamarcus is toast. Al MIGHT let him go through the motions in trainig camp, but I set the over/under on days until he is released at 17.

    A couple of weeks to see if he wakes up. If not, the chosen one will be gone.

  466. PassTheCheetos Says:

    Mel Kipers a douche. He thinks hes the formost expert on the draft because hes the only one he literally made a career out of it. He gave us a grade of a C+. Watching espn the only real negative thing i ever heard him say was that we really reached for McClain. From what i hear jacksonville was ready to take him at 11. So i dont know what he expect us to do trade back a couple spots or something. Maybe he wanted us to take campbell or whoever he mocked us to take. Ive never liked the guy always valued his input much less than anyone elses.

  467. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    The Raiders are going to play a tough game in week one, then choke at the end. That’s when Al will start tinkering and when the downward spiral will begin. 5-11.

  468. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Who do the Raiders play week one? Tennessee? Guarantee you the Raiders play a heck of a game, using a balanced offense. They’ll lose at the end, though, probably via an unnecessary prevent defense. Then, the following week, we’ll start seeing the forced 10 yard passes again.

  469. vegas raider Says:

    Week 2 we are going to beat the crap out of Bradford and the Rams.

    Should be a snoozer and easy victory for us.

    Go out on a limb and say the Raiders will be 7 point favorites for that game.

  470. PassTheCheetos Says:

    fat kidds so ugly when he sits in sand cats try to bury him.

  471. aig Says:

    Al cannot let Jawalrus go to training camp without any contract revisions. if he gets hurt, Al is stuck with the 6.5 mil.

  472. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I’m pretty sure Russell’s gone now, AIG. Al should have listened to Kiffin. Would have saved us 3 years and a ton of money.

  473. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    AIG, according to Al’s words in his press conference when firing Kiffin, what did he say to Kiffin when Kiffin tried to talk him out of JaMarcus?

  474. vegas raider Says:

    The essence of the Jamarcus Russell era.

    He is a financial risk to allow to practice. Classic!!

  475. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You know, I actually wouldn’t be surprised if Russell stayed, and still started. I could see Al bringing in Campbell to please Cable, yet still making him start Russell anyway. As far as the money goes? Anyone need to be reminded what Al shelled out for those bums in ‘08?

  476. SteveAlford21 Says:

    RMR,

    Ryan was the king of unnecessary prevent defense… so the chances of that are significantly lower now. Hopefully we’ve seen the end of that foolishness. Hopefully Marshall will get us a big run-stuffing DT and put together a great D. For the first time in years, I can hope and actually feel justified in it.

  477. jhill Says:

    Well hell, looks like I need to grab my tickets for the St Louis game if all the rest of Jerry’s kids are going to be there.

    Need logistics folks!

    Vegas, where are you sitting?

  478. Thec07 Says:

    No one has picked up javon walker yet…

  479. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Maybe we can re-sign Javon for about $12mil for this season? We could always use a seventh or eighth WR.

  480. SteveAlford21 Says:

    I really hope that the sarcasm there was self-evident and no one needed to have it explained…

  481. RaiderRon Says:

    Vegas,

    I will bet you a MILLION dollars the Raiders arent favored by 7 points against the Rams week 2.

  482. PassTheCheetos Says:

    were the Raiders favored to win any games last year?

  483. fat kidd Says:

    PassTheCheetos You’re so stupid, you thought a quarterback was a refund.

  484. Chris in NY Says:

    SteveAlford21 Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
    RMR,

    Ryan was the king of unnecessary prevent defense… so the chances of that are significantly lower now. Hopefully we’ve seen the end of that foolishness. Hopefully Marshall will get us a big run-stuffing DT and put together a great D. For the first time in years, I can hope and actually feel justified in it.

    ———————————

    Games when we were ahead by 3 and the other team had the ball on their own 30 with 5 minutes to go and RR would drop into a soft, prevent D.

  485. Tom cables pimp hand Says:

    julius jones will soon be available, hopefully we bring him in to replace fargas.

  486. JB Says:

    We need to be really active in the Rookie FA market. Let’s bring in a ton of the class of 2010 Offensive linemen and see if we can find a couple of gems.

  487. JB Says:

    I understood most of the Raider picks but I am still questioning the #4 pick – the LB. Off hand, I’d say we could have done a lot better by picking an OG to fill a need. Mitch Petrus-OG was available and we passed on him to get a who’s he LB. I thought we had more than enough LB on the roster already. NY Giants got Petrus. He will end up being a real powerhouse lineman – our loss.

  488. Guy Says:

    The who linebacker is a special teams guy, same with the last two picks. We could have had Jeff Owens who is stout vs the run, a NT, and OG Brandon Carter or Ciron Black. Ciron Black is actually available in FA though atm.

  489. JB Says:

    Good to know about the LB. I hope he was worth the 4th pick. I know ST are important but I thought our ST personnel were more than adequate. The ST problem was the coach IMO. Well, we got him so I hope he works out.

    Like I said on an earlier post, we should be very aggressive in the rookie FA market when it comes to linemen – both on the O and the D.

  490. Guy Says:

    Al probably thinks we have our NT in this Heard guy, heck, maybe he will be a steal, you never know.

  491. JB Says:

    Heard guy? I’m unfamiliar with this person. Who & where does he fit in?

  492. Vinous Says:

    “03/16/2010 – PRO DAY RESULTS: Among the 14 players that worked out for the 26 team representatives in attendance (including coaches from Carolina and Cincinnati), the following were the most noteworthy: DE Alex Daniels (6-2 1/4, 265) ran 4.73 in the 40, had a 36 1/2-inch vertical jump, a 10-9 broad jump, a 4.51 short shuttle, a 7.09 three-cone drill and did 31 bench press repetitions at 225 pounds.” – Gil Brandt, NFL.com

    Alex Daniels looks like he could be a player, strong, fast and good heart…was one of the top UDFA. Shorter O’Shaunessy.

  493. JB Says:

    Has everyone noticed how large these players are getting nowadays. Linemen are 6′4″ and 310# minimum – more likely 325. We are now a true land of giants where anyone less than 6′3 can legitimately be called shorty. The linemen heros of yesteryear (e.g. Shell, Upshaw, Otto, et al.) wouldn’t even makes today’s rosters as linemen. They were to small and slow to compete with today’s behemoths.

  494. Guy Says:

    There is like no info about him and there is a video on youtube of him hitting Colt Mccoy. Look at the link Jerry put we picked him up. He is tall and like 350 pounds. DT/NT/RT guy.

  495. NorthernD Says:

    The Bucs picked up QB Jevan Snead as a UDFA.
    He was the second highest rated QB behind Bradford going into last season. He could be very good if he gets back to his old form.

    Snead should definitely fire his agent or whoever told him to declare for the draft.

  496. Guy Says:

    Post 492

    Lol its just Shaughnessy not O’shaunessy I think. I think we are good enough at DE and we are stacked at LB. We should be focusing on getting a big body DT, a center, and a guard. Those should be our main priorities going into next year. If Bush or McFadden don’t produce this year, that needs to be addressed too, along with WR if they fail to produce.

  497. Tom cables pimp hand Says:

    campbells and veldheers ceiling are extremely high, from the soundz of it cable sees campbell as a guard and veldheer as a rt. with campbells size speed and strength cud you imagine the holes he’d open up 4 dmac?

  498. aig Says:

    Northern,

    Yup. I follow Ole Miss down here. After last season, mcShay rated Snead as the number one QB propect this season. McShay also goof on Andre Woodson from Kentucky too a few yrs ago too. Snead is an int machine. He should have stayed for one more year. Another Ole Miss guy Greg Hardy was a legit top 15 last year but he came out this year and he went in the 6th round.

    The best part is Jonathan Crompton from Tenn got drafted earlier by San Diego. Crompton is considered the worst QB ever in the modern history of the Volunteers.

  499. JB Says:

    I’m not sold on DMac as a full time back. He more along the lines of Reggie Bush and should be utilized the same. DMac is simply not very god between the tackles. He goes down too easy at first contact. We need to get him the ball in the open either by swing pass or lining him up at the slot receiver spot going up against LB’s & safeties. There, he can do some good things and now that we have a QB in camp that can hit an open receiver we may have something. Leave the between the tackle stuff to Bush & Gary Russell. Hopefully, we get a healthy Oren O’Neal back this year. That would be a big plus for the running game – along with the new O-line.

  500. aig Says:

    Mr.

    Drafting Jawalrus will go down as the worst decision draft day decision of Al’s legacy. However, the worst money Al ever spent was on Javon Walker for $1 mil per catch.

  501. Tom cables pimp hand Says:

    what ever happend to louis rankin? we need him back.

  502. lefty12 Says:

    AIG,the worst money ever spent on Walker?Have you forgotten about Deangelo Hall?

  503. aig Says:

    he played 8 games. how many games did walker play?

  504. JB Says:

    # Tom cables pimp hand Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 11:24 pm

    what ever happened to louis rankin? we need him back.
    ***************

    Last I heard he got picked up by the Seahawks. I’m hoping the backs we’ve got will be much more productive now that the O-line is about to be restocked. It would also be nice to have a real FB in the backfield too. Here’s hoping that O’Neal returns to his healthy self.

  505. lefty12 Says:

    AIG-he played in games but the way he played it would have been better if he hadn’t.

  506. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    SteveAlford21 Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    RMR,

    Ryan was the king of unnecessary prevent defense…

    ……………..

    YOU F@##$N LIAR!!!

    Last year…week one. SD only needs a field goal and we dropped into that prevent. They wound up scoring. Put the game away. No Rob Ryan in sight.

    2000, MNF, at Denver. Gannon hits brown for a go ahead TD, a hard fought game. Denver only needs a FG to win. We go to the prevent and they march right down field. 10 years ago. Where was Rob then? In New England, if I recall. Certainly not Oakland.

    You’re ridiculous. Deflect blame from Al, the breakfast of delusional homers.

  507. raider86 Says:

    Don’t rule out Fargas coming back for veterans minimum.

  508. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Tom cables pimp hand Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
    campbells and veldheers ceiling are extremely high, from the soundz of it cable sees campbell as a guard and veldheer as a rt. with campbells size speed and strength cud you imagine the holes he’d open up 4 dmac?

    ====================

    Veldheer and Campbell obviously had strong off season showings and hopefully can be coached up.

    He seems to struggle engaging defenders not sure how to attack or where to place his hands for best leverage.

    All things that can be taught and if he’s a quick study he could help in certain packages sooner rather than later perhaps.

    Campbell showed even at the combine he could apply readily what was taught.

    Beside experience I think motor has been a question for too.

    We’ll see…can’t wait.

  509. Nnamdi21 Says:

    raider86 Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 12:17 am
    Don’t rule out Fargas coming back for veterans minimum.

    ==============

    Physically, he’s done.

  510. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Lamarr Houston

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/2010_off_season

  511. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    He can’t hear you Thec, he’s busy talking to himself.
    _________________________________________________________

    LOL yeah its a bit tiresome to see ALL his posts… he is just trying to damn hard

  512. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # Coach Elkins Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    Been actively pursuing employment with Mr. Davis for 3 and a half years!
    ______________________________________________________

    funny stuff, yeah and I am just about to make a movie with Bruce Willis and I have actively persuing Megan Fox she know how I am…

  513. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    Wish it felt more like Al had his stamp on this draft.

    It just seems so Un-Al like.

    I know, I know..”If you’re going to blame Al, then he should get the credit.)

    This draft was common sense. Seriously, wasn’t any big reaches. Took players, with the exception of a few later round reaches, that filled a need, and that was a solid project.

    Again, that’s just not Al, IMO.
    ______________________________________________________

    I see Al all over it, not picking cody, not picking Kafka, and picking 10.000 DBs in the late rounds…

  514. neilb Says:

    test

  515. neilb Says:

    I’ve been hearing the tune from “the twilight zone” in my head since Thursday.Kinda freaking me out right now.

  516. neilb Says:

    Picture a member of the Raider Nation on a journey beyond sight and sound.He’s left Alameda,he’s entered the Common sense zone.

  517. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Neilb…

    we might just got our World Cup ruined… Thomas Sørensen got his arm ripped off in the chelsea match… crap…

  518. neilb Says:

    LMN…

    Seen it a few times now and the Chelsea player should have been sent off.

  519. neilb Says:

    Tommy must hate London.Had his arm broken while playing for Sunderland against Arsenal.

  520. neilb Says:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/stoke_city/8643139.stm

    He might make it LMN.

  521. La Milicia Negra Says:

    neilb…

    yeah, but still, a dislocated shoulder is a dislocated shoulder, and its less than 2 month to go…

    BBC knows nothing… they say Kim Christensen is 2nd in row, and Schmeichel JR might go, thats a load of crap

    If all healthy…

    Thomas Sørensen, Stoke, UK.
    Stephan Andersen, Brøndby, DK.
    Jesper Christiansen, FCK, DK.
    Kevin Stuhr Ellegaard, Randers, DK.
    Kim Christensen, Göteborg, SE.
    Brian Jensen, Burnley, UK

    And then

    Kasper Schmeichel, Notts County, UK.

    All great keepers, but no-one is near Thomas, but 2nd and 3rd are almost even..

  522. neilb Says:

    Hope he makes it.Good bloke.Still a fan favourite at Sunderland.

  523. neilb Says:

    Off to ready for work.Lates this week.

    Have a great Monday LMN.

  524. NFL News and Notes – April 26, 2010 | The Other 31 Says:

    [...] undrafted free agents have reportedly agreed to terms with the Oakland [...]

  525. La Milicia Negra Says:

    yup, I liked when he played there too

  526. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Neilb..

    take care

  527. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    I am “Geeked” about this draft!!! Can’t wait for the season…!!!

  528. NoMoreFargas Says:

    Why would they bring back Fargas when he can’t even get a job, no this is a new team and new locker room out with the Morrisons,Fargas and in with winners.

    RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  529. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,TIME 4 THE BEAN COUNTER’S 2 GO 2 WORK,GET EVERYONE SIGN’D AND IN CAMP ON TIME.NO HOLD-OUTS..

  530. RaiderTW Says:

    REPORT: Fox Newsers rally for GOP in more than 300 instances and in nearly every state
    http://mediamatters.org/research/201004210012

    Just sayin’……

  531. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Jaguars just released DT John Henderson.

    Hmmm…

    Later, off to work.

  532. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Patriots signed Gerard Warren! LOL!

    perhaps they forgot about Walter, Sands, Burgess, Jordan, Gabriel, etc.

    at least they didn’t sign Schweigert, Gibson, Tui & Wakefield after we released them!

  533. RaiderRockstar Says:

    add Faneca & Henderson = we’re headed to the playoffs

  534. hwnrdr Says:

    I know, I was laughing when I saw that yesterday! Bellichek grabbing Gerard Warren? Really?

  535. RaiderRockstar Says:

    53 man roster – as of today

    QB: Campbell, Gradkowski, Russell/Frye
    RB: McFadden, Bush, Anderson
    FB: Tonga, Reece
    WR: Heyward-Bey, Murphy, Schilens, Higgins, Ford
    TE: Miller, Myers, Stewart
    OT: Henderson, Barnes, Veldheer, Campbell
    OG: Gallery, Carlisle, Walker, Parsons
    C: Satele, Morris
    DE: Shaughnessy, Houston, Richardson, Gunheim
    DT: Seymour, Kelly, Bryant, Joseph
    LB: Scott, Wimbley, Groves, Brown, McClain, Goethel
    CB: Asomugha, Johnson, Routt, McFadden, Ware
    S: Huff, Branch, Mitchell, Brown
    ST: Janikowski, Lechler, Condo, Ekejiuba

  536. RaiderRockstar Says:

    camp fodder and/or roster cuts:

    WR Trent Guy, Louisville
    DE Alex Daniels, Cincinnati
    LB Brashton Satele, Hawaii

    WR Shaun Bodiford
    QB Kyle Boller
    SS Jerome Boyd
    DL Chris Cooper
    FS Hiram Eugene
    WR Yamon Figurs
    WR Jonathan Holland
    LB Thomas Howard
    WR Paul Hubbard
    FB Luke Lawton
    WR Nick Miller
    LB David Nixon
    LB Slade Norris
    OT Erik Pears
    OG Brandon Rodd
    QB JaMarcus Russell (if he refuses a paycut)
    WR Todd Watkins
    LB Sam Williams

  537. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    Mornrin RR, Hnrdr, LMN, Dirt lot, NMF, NATION!

    Well done Mr. Davis… well done!

  538. hwnrdr Says:

    I wonder if Brashton is Samson’s little brother?

  539. hwnrdr Says:

    DirtyRaccoon Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 6:20 am
    Mornrin RR, Hnrdr, LMN, Dirt lot, NMF, NATION!

    Well done Mr. Davis… well done!

    I agree Raccon, I agree!!! I swear Cable punched Davis out and locked him in the closet…

  540. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    Hwnrdr, I said the same thing, but we all know Al made the call in the end. He did the right thing!

    Now it is time to cut bait with the Jawalrus.

  541. RaiderRockstar Says:

    We’re working on free agency right now. We’ll reach out to who we need to.

    -Tom Cable

    ***

    undrafted free agents, or vets ???

  542. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good morning AM crew!

  543. hwnrdr Says:

    Who was that who said that Al didn’t know that the draft started on Thursday and that on Saturday Al was set to take Bruce Campbell with the first pick (even though it was the 4th round)? Hahaha…just about came true, huh?

  544. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    ESPN this morning they said Russell may be cut as soon as this week. They said Oakland has made the commitment by signing Campbell to a two year deal.

    The Analyst was quick to say,”lets face it at this point in his pro career he is out of shape and can’t even look off a corner. The corner has just as much chance to the ball as the WR does. “Ouch, but true.

  545. hwnrdr Says:

    Aren’t you going to miss him CJ? Haha…just kidding!
    Some players coming out of college just don’t get it and sad to say, because I was one hoping he will get it, Russell is one of them!

  546. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    DO THEY HAVE 2 WAIT UNTIL JUNE 1ST TO CUT RUSSELL,OR CAN THEY DO IT B4 LUNCH ?

  547. Copenhagen_Fan Says:

    YEAH Grab Henderson! NOW!

  548. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Ha, Ha, Ha, !!!! Now ESPN Mike and Mike is swinging on the nut draft!

    But they are killing Russell even though they say he is a very likeable kid but he could not get the job done. He will be one of the great busts of the NFL draft, maybe. They say he just could not take pressure of the situation he was in.

    Who knows maybe Russell will go somewhere as a 3rd string QB and work on his game.

    To bad oh well it is hard to feel sorry for a young guy with 30+ million sitting in the bank.

    If another idiot says I feel sorry for him I will barf. You feel sorry for the homeless and orphan children but not the rich and chillin! : )

  549. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    I cried as I typed the message on my PC. LMAO!!!

    —————————————————-
    hwnrdr Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 6:35 am
    Aren’t you going to miss him CJ? Haha…just kidding!
    Some players coming out of college just don’t get it and sad to say, because I was one hoping he will get it, Russell is one of them!

  550. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    I say cut his disrespectful, idget azz TODAY, keep this ball rolling!!

  551. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dan Pastorini charged with DWI

  552. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    MAYBE RUSSELL WILL GO TO THE CHIEFS AND FALL ON THAT SAFTEY THEY DRAFTED

  553. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    I did want to see what Russel looked like behind a o-line and with a “decent” running game.

    If he would have worked out harder I would have been more on his team. I am not big on Grads and Frye neither. Grads is a back up QB and Frye is a thrid round QB for life. I watched him in Cleveland and I hated his game with a passion.

  554. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Vikings signed QB Ryan Perriloux!

    JaMarcus Russell 2.0

  555. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    It was Clayton who said he thought Russel will be released by the end of the week.

    Perfect example of why we need a wage scale to keep rooies motivated. Give the $ to the players who play and contribute.

  556. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Browns & Giants want Henderson. crap!

  557. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LeGarrette Blount disses Niners, joins Titans

    LOL!

    I guess he thinks he can beat out Ringer, but not Coffee as #2 RB ???

  558. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Texans, Bears & Cardinals want Faneca. crap!

  559. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Steelers signed LSU OL Ciron Black.

    Black, a four-year starter for the Tigers, fell out of the draft due to a lack of ideal athleticism. The Steelers will likely try him out at guard.

    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/36769265/ns/sports-player_news/

  560. Bob Marley Says:

    My take:

    MLB Rolando McClain: Good pick, production at the highest level to match height, weight & speed numbers, hard working and smart, with the instincts required to QB this defense.

    DL Lamarr Houston: Versatile, 3 down player who won’t take plays off and can give us snaps everywhere on the line, another solid kid who combines production with outstanding athleticism.

    OL Jared Veldheer: They say he’s got everything you need to develop into a LT, smart, huge and athletic, short arms but as Peter King pointed out, some of the best young OT in the league have less than “ideal” arm lenght and they do fine, can’t say I know much more but seems like a fine, not great pick for me.

    OL Bruce Campbell: It’s all been said, a great pick at this point, run blocking is the most underrated part of his game which makes him a starting candidate at the right side.

    WR Jacoby Ford: besides the obvious return potential, this kid is actually a very good WR prospect, he can score from anywhere on the field and we need guys like this, could turn out to be a Santana Moss type of weapon.

    CB Walter McFadden: I like this guy, a true CB with cover skills and speed who should help really soon, not the perfect CB prospect because he’s not real big or strong but seems like the kind of DB who makes plays for you.

    MLB Travis Goethel: “Marginally athletic prospect with terrific instincts. ..Goethel is a thinking man’s football player with a terrific head on his shoulders…”.

    The scouting report says it all, back in 94 we drafted a similar player in Greg Biekert, he turned out to be our starting MLB for years and a real solid pro, you never know.

    The DB’s: Special teams help.

    FB Manase Tonga: A draftable player at a position of need who slipped, good pick up.

    G Alex Parsons: Nice pick up, used to be a DL, only started the last 2 years at G: “Parsons is one of the more underrated offensive line prospects in this draft and a player with a good degree of upside potential. He’s assimilated into his new position well, and he will only get better in the coming years as he sees more playing action.”

  561. jhill Says:

    When is mini camp ????

  562. Bob Marley Says:

    Wow…John Henderson is available, come on Al sign this guy right now.

  563. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # hwnrdr Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 6:21 am

    I wonder if Brashton is Samson’s little brother?
    ________________________________________________________

    LOL, I said that in post 29, and 4eva were pulling my chain for it =)

    at least im not alone about that assumption

  564. jhill Says:

    Excellent draft, and I can’t WAIT to see the camp battles get under way.

    Really hope Veldheer, Bruce Campbell, and Parsons can all win starting jobs.

    The QB battle has the potential to be outrageous!

    Let’s hope Gradkowski get healthy and Russell gets a clue. If we can have a legit QB competition with those 3 guys, the winner of that competition is going to be really good for us.

    If the job is just handed to one of the 3, which I HIGHLY doubt will happen, well, let’s just say that would suck!

  565. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 6:44 am
    Vikings signed QB Ryan Perriloux!

    JaMarcus Russell 2.0

    ******************************

    Wow, I did not know Perriloux was a lazy millionair

  566. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Former Virginia fullback Rashawn Jackson, who was projected to get selected as high as the fifth round in mock drafts, was not selected as his position was all but ignored on the third day.

    Jackson did, however, sign a free-agent deal to join the Carolina Panthers.

    http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/sports/cavalier_insider/ci_football/article/ex-cavaliers_ink_free-agent_deals/55377/

  567. hwnrdr Says:

    Looks like everyone was giving you crap for that, huh?

  568. La Milicia Negra Says:

    RRS…

    I agree John Henderson would make up for us not picking up Mount Cody…

    Faneca, dont need him, he is a LG, and so are Gallery, and I think our LG is better…

  569. RaiderRockstar Says:

    think we should sign:

    Aleric Mullins, DT 6′1″ 321 North Carolina

    WHY NOT?

  570. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Wow!!! I thought we had a pretty good draft but I don’t know about an A+ draft. I knew FOX was crazy as heck but d@mn, I guess will take it!

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/lists/nfl-draft-czar-report-cards-gallery-042410?GT1=39002#sport=NFL&photo=11162532

  571. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LMN: I’d plug in Faneca at RG and watch our O-Line instantly become one of the league’s best.

  572. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Trade JaMarcus for Mikkel Kessler!

  573. Bob Marley Says:

    Cut Russell now and pay for Henderson.

  574. edward teach Says:

    Rashawn Jackson makes sense for the Panthers. They need a hammerhead for their type of running game, and as we know Hoover is gone.

    John Conner was the only traditional FB drafted, am I right? Went in the fifth round, but I can’t remember where.

    I guess Cable was right not drafting one. We signed two UDFA’s and there may still be some hope for OO.

  575. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 6:20 am
    camp fodder and/or roster cuts:

    WR Trent Guy, Louisville
    DE Alex Daniels, Cincinnati
    LB Brashton Satele, Hawaii

    WR Shaun Bodiford
    QB Kyle Boller
    SS Jerome Boyd
    DL Chris Cooper
    FS Hiram Eugene
    WR Yamon Figurs
    WR Jonathan Holland
    LB Thomas Howard
    WR Paul Hubbard
    FB Luke Lawton
    WR Nick Miller
    LB David Nixon
    LB Slade Norris
    OT Erik Pears
    OG Brandon Rodd
    QB JaMarcus Russell (if he refuses a paycut)
    WR Todd Watkins
    LB Sam Williams

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Boller stays;
    Pears stays;
    Howard stays;
    Daniels stays;
    Chane Moline sticks,
    so does OO;
    Eugune sticks for now

    adios to: Frye, Gunheim, Goethel (practice squad), Reece, Brown (practice squad), Carlisle, Ware (practice squad)

    And Joseph may be dust as well if we can find a vet DT. This draft was just too thin on talented fatboys. I bet we find one after early roster cutdowns.

  576. edward teach Says:

    The big cuts continue. Or have begun in earnest, I should say.

    Patriots just released Adalius Thomas.

  577. Bob Marley Says:

    The Jason Campbell to Zach Miller connection should be great to watch, our TE just got closer to the Pro Bowl.

  578. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 6:57 am
    Steelers signed LSU OL Ciron Black.

    Black, a four-year starter for the Tigers, fell out of the draft due to a lack of ideal athleticism. The Steelers will likely try him out at guard.

    **********************************************

    Not because his skills did he fell, it was because he is close to Jawalrus, and just like him.

    A disrspectful, discrace to LSU, and the NFL!

    As a man, how can you not even try to work hard?

    How can you ever hold your head up knowing you did not EARN what you have??

  579. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    jhill

    Camp should be exciting but there is a chance that Ruseell may be cut and not be there.

    I think the battle at the WR spot might get kind of interesting as well. There are going to be soem cuts at this position. Do not under estimate Jacoby Ford at that position neither. If this guy stays healthy he could be last years Louis Murphy but the guy seems to have vision and can catch the ball, easy.
    ———————————–
    jhill Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 7:04 am
    Excellent draft, and I can’t WAIT to see the camp battles get under way.

    Really hope Veldheer, Bruce Campbell, and Parsons can all win starting jobs.

    The QB battle has the potential to be outrageous!

    Let’s hope Gradkowski get healthy and Russell gets a clue. If we can have a legit QB competition with those 3 guys, the winner of that competition is going to be really good for us.

    If the job is just handed to one of the 3, which I HIGHLY doubt will happen, well, let’s just say that would suck!

  580. Bob Marley Says:

    What an outstanding weekend for the Raiders, now let’s put it all together.

    Oh and sign Henderson.

  581. vegas raider Says:

    So the betting lines are now out for week 1 and the biggest underdog on the board?

    The Oakland Raiders, 8 point dogs in Tennessee.

  582. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 7:09 am

    LMN: I’d plug in Faneca at RG and watch our O-Line instantly become one of the league’s best.
    ________________________________________________________

    and Mawae as Center???

  583. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    I hope we don’t cut WR Watkins his game is as good as Randy Moss’s game right now.

  584. hwnrdr Says:

    edward teach Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 7:13 am
    The big cuts continue. Or have begun in earnest, I should say.

    Patriots just released Adalius Thomas.

    Interesting!!!

  585. vegas raider Says:

    I think Watkins will stay ahead of JLH.

    JLH’s days are numbered, IMO.

  586. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    I say we force Jamarkus Buster to play Gaurd when we play Denver, and let Jamal Williams pound his lazy discracefull azz into the dirt!

  587. RaidingTexas Says:

    Well, Super Bowl champion coach Sean Payton clearly saw some value in Brandon Carter. Too bad the Raiders whiffed on that one. Other than that, a good draft.

  588. edward teach Says:

    Second phase of the personnel category of the offseason is about to begin, with the Annual Post-Draft Salary, Overpriced Veteran and Malcontent Dump.

    I hope Al can remain disciplined.

  589. vegas raider Says:

    So, have we seen the last of Jamarcus? Is that interview where he couldn’t stop for the chick, when asked if he was ready to play and his response was “no”, the last of him as a Raider?

    Seemed highly unlikely a few weeks ago, but today? It is definately picking up some steam.

  590. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    Bigest loss for the RAIDERS so far is big #52. This guy will be missed. I know McClain looks like a great replacment, and I think and hope he is, BUT Morrisson was more than just the MLB. Kinda like T. Brown in a way. A true RAIDER! If we would have had better NT, and DT, we would not have had to “up-grade” our MLB, then we could have used the #8 to trade down to pick Pouncy, and Iupati!

  591. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Adalius Thomas, yes! Lets go get him Hwndr we need another LB to compete! : )

  592. vegas raider Says:

    Call me crazy, but I am pretty excited that our MLB is no longer a guy who goes on TV in tight designer jeans and a European man-purse.

    What was McClain wearing when drafted? A white T and basketball shorts. Just a straight athlete, nothing else. Football is EVERYTHING to McClain, we hit a home-run here, IMO.

  593. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Agree!

    I still say it looks real bad young or not when a man has to have another man pal around with him to keep him straight. How lame was that!

    ———————————-
    vegas raider Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 7:24 am
    So, have we seen the last of Jamarcus? Is that interview where he couldn’t stop for the chick, when asked if he was ready to play and his response was “no”, the last of him as a Raider?

    Seemed highly unlikely a few weeks ago, but today? It is definately picking up some steam.

  594. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Bottom line Morrison was just not getting the job done!

    He made many tackles, I liked the guy but he just did not seem to have that “thump” in him.

  595. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    ESPN they are back on calling DHB a reach and a bust!

    I hope he can turn his game around and contribute this year.

  596. RaiderRockstar Says:

    who is Chane Moline?

  597. jhill Says:

    Camp should be exciting but there is a chance that Ruseell may be cut and not be there.

    I think the battle at the WR spot might get kind of interesting as well. There are going to be soem cuts at this position. Do not under estimate Jacoby Ford at that position neither. If this guy stays healthy he could be last years Louis Murphy but the guy seems to have vision and can catch the ball, easy.

    ——————————————————-

    Russell indeed may be cut, and fugg him and his non Raider arss if he’s dumb enough to let that happen.

    I’m not underestimating Jacoby Ford at all my man. I think JLH is as good as gone. He’s behind Nick Miller and Jacoby Ford already.

    Very happy about the WR depth considering we’ll only get 8 games or so from Schillens.

  598. YoungAmerican Says:

    DT John Henderson, please.

    Then we can have two Hendersons, two Sateles, two McFaddens, and two Campbells.

    Apparently Al Davis is a fan of symmetry?

  599. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    RRS,

    http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2010/4/25/1443268/udrfa-fb-chane-moline-ucla-signs

  600. RaiderRockstar Says:

    do NOT hate on my boy Johnnie Lee!

    Jason Campbell will make him the #2 behind Heyward-Bey this year

    speed & RAC baby

  601. vegas raider Says:

    Well the 4th round was certainly an Al round.

    Bruce Campbell and Jacoby Ford, lol. Perfect value for 4th rounders, and I like that Cable seems confidant in almost immediately playing Adonis Campbell as a RG.

    I wonder with his size, strength and vertical, we may see him attempting to block FG’s.

  602. jhill Says:

    Yo Vegas,

    I need you to drop some cheese for me on the Raiders winning the division.

    Also need to know the odds on AFC Champ and SB.

    lakerjdh@yahoo.com for payment arrangements. You know I’m good for it!

  603. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Chane Moline – UCLA

    At 6′ – 247, he is quite a load to bring down and he ran a 4.58 40 (good receiver out of the backfield)

    I know why you like him BSJ!

    “He also handled the ball 227 times with only 2 fumbles, and those were both in 2006-07.”

    quick question: does this guy have any BLOCKING SKILLS?

    could care less about a FB’s ability to run with the football or catch dumpoffs.

  604. NoMoreFargas Says:

    Who will be most excited by Russell being gone Raider Nation or JLH,Miller, he was getting those 2 killed with his errant passes, don’t know if I ever seen a pro Qb get his wr hit so hard.

  605. jhill Says:

    LT – Veldheer
    LG – Gallery
    C – Satele
    RG – Campbell
    RT – Barnes

    Wow!

    That’s a really different starting OL than I projected last week.

  606. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LMN: I’ll take Kevin Mawae too!

    he’s currently begging the Titans for a backup job. how sad. instant upgrade over Satele/Morris imo – I don’t care if he is 40 years old or whatever it is …

  607. jhill Says:

    Yo RRS …

    Wassup with the Turkey shoot?

    Anyway I can get you to send me one? Fresh Bird out of the smoker ???

    Yummm!

  608. RaiderRockstar Says:

    BSJ: we’re keeping 3 FB’s and nobody backs up McClain at MLB?

    thats what happens if you want Tonga, O’Neal & Moline … and both Ricky Brown & Travos Goethel out.

  609. vegas raider Says:

    Jhill,

    just sent you an e-mail.

    SB odds, 200/1. Maybe 250/1 in some places. Tough to find division odds.

    8 point dogs opening morning.

  610. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jhill: was at it all weekend, but you have to pack it in by 1pm each day by law, so I also got to catch up on the draft buzz in here every now & again :)

    saw a BIG gobbler on Sat. was 80 yards away (about 40 yards too far from where I was at) never came any closer. called my father-n-law and told him where it was to try & sneak up on it from behind, but he couldn’t get a shot at it before it headed off into the timber. a wish I had brought my call with me!

    Sunday I saw 9 hens, 2 geese, 3 deer and ZERO gobblers. GRRR! never heard any gobblin after 7:30am

    oh well. maybe next weekend! still had a great time :)

  611. Dakota Says:

    Wow, nice draft by the Raiders. Did Hue Jackson bring some new ideas about how to draft from the Ravens? Seems like they were completely different from years past.

    Campbell is certainly better than Garbage or Russell, so glad to see him on board.

  612. Scottish Raider Says:

    Very pleased with the draft. I had Veldheer and Goethel on my mocks for weeks and getting Campbell in the 4th was the steal of the weekend.

    Herewith the first baseline 53 for 2010:

    1. J Campbell (QB)
    2. Gradkowski (QB)
    3. Frye (QB)
    4. D.McFadden (RB)
    5. Bush (RB)
    6. Anderson (RB)
    7. Neal (FB)
    8. Tonga (RB/FB)
    9. Z.Miller (TE)
    10. Myers (TE)
    11. Stewart (TE)
    12. Henderson (OT)
    13. Barnes (OT)
    14. Veldheer (OT)
    15. Campbell (OT/OG)
    16. Gallery (OG)
    17. Carlisle (OG)
    18. Parsons (OG)
    19. Walker (OG)
    20. Satele (C)
    21. Morris (C)
    22. Heywood-Bey (WR)
    23. Schillens (WR)
    24. Murphy (WR)
    25. Higgins (WR/PR)
    26. Ford (WR/KR)
    27. N.Miller (WR)
    28. Asomugha (CB)
    29. C.Johnson (CB)
    30. Routt (CB)
    31. W.McFadden (CB)
    32. Branch (S)
    33. Mitchell (S)
    34. Eugene (S)
    35. Huff (S)
    36. McClain (LB)
    37. Goethel (LB)
    38. Howard (LB)
    39. Brown (LB)
    40. Wimbley (DE/LB)
    41. Groves (DE/LB)
    42. Norris (LB)
    43. Ekejuiba (LB)
    44. Scott (DE/LB)
    45. Richardson (DE)
    46. Shaughnessy (DE)
    47. Houston (DT/DE)
    48. Kelly (DT)
    49. Seymour (DT/DE)
    50. Bryant (DT)
    51. Condo (LS)
    52. Lechler (P)
    53. Janikowski (K)

    Center, RB and DT still look short on depth.

  613. Dakota Says:

    Does Ford = no more JLH? Or will the golden child Nick Miller get cut?

  614. Dakota Says:

    Faneca
    Henderson
    Thomas
    Brad Hoover

    Interesting FAs.

  615. RaiderRockstar Says:

    With O’Neal, Reece, Tonga & Moline competing at FB – I guess we don’t need to go after Brad Hoover in FA?

    I’ll be happy when Lawton & Reece are out …

  616. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Faneca
    Henderson
    Thomas
    Brad Hoover

    ***

    Thomas?

    Tra Thomas???

  617. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Ford is the replacement for Walker, Miller & Watkins imo

    If we keep Nick Miller and/or Todd Watkins over Higgins I’m going postal!

  618. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 7:53 am
    BSJ: we’re keeping 3 FB’s and nobody backs up McClain at MLB?

    thats what happens if you want Tonga, O’Neal & Moline … and both Ricky Brown & Travos Goethel out.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    I said Brown stays, STEVIE BROWN to the prac. quad. I think Moline beats out Tonga. Goethel is on prac. squad too, plays if injuries hit.

  619. Dakota Says:

    I was a big supporter or JLH, but that cat seem to lose it last year. Is all the blame on Russell, or is JLH just a head case?

  620. RaiderRockstar Says:

    hope we sign Ladell Betts, Muhsin Muhammad, Kevin Mawae, Alan Faneca & John Henderson in free agency.

    PLAYOFFS?!?

  621. Dakota Says:

    Adalius Thomas…or is he just a 3-4 lb?

  622. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Scottish, who is Neal (FB)? I assume you meant Oren, not Lorenzo?

  623. Dakota Says:

    We do need another RB, but we better not re-sign Fargas!

  624. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 7:45 am
    Well the 4th round was certainly an Al round.

    Bruce Campbell and Jacoby Ford, lol. Perfect value for 4th rounders, and I like that Cable seems confidant in almost immediately playing Adonis Campbell as a RG.

    I wonder with his size, strength and vertical, we may see him attempting to block FG’s.

    *****************

    That will be Veldheer, I think.

  625. Dakota Says:

    Is Oren Oneal still in play? I thought he was done last year. I saw them list him on our depth chart during one of the draft shows, but I didn’t know he was still a possibility.

  626. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    Our new FB will be Goethel.

    BEt.

  627. HairyBush Says:

    Quick hits-

    -Gerard Warren to Pats LOL

    -It’s weird to hear so many positive things said about the Raiders by the “experts”

    -I’m interested in seeing how that undrafted free agent fullback looks.

    -Commish Goodell must secretly be a Raider fan, Why else would he put the 3 most important rounds of the draft on while Al Davis is sleeping? (besides ratings and commercial revenue of course lol) That Draft was so sound and logical that someone must have told Davis the draft starts on Saturday just like in years past :)

    -John Henderson- yes please

    -J.Russell, if you have half a brain take the pay cut or you may find yourself playing a lot of Madden at home!

    -I’m on a high after a good weekend of enhancing our football team!

  628. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Good Luck Kirk Morrison!

    he goes from playing behind Warren & Kelly in OAK to Terrance Knighton & Tyson Alualu in JAX …

    playing beside Daryl Smith & Justin Durant instead of Howard & Brown.

  629. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Dakota Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 8:11 am
    We do need another RB, but we better not re-sign Fargas!

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Only if Lil’ Huggy goes to Israel and gets new knees ala Javon!

  630. HairyBush Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 8:07 am
    Ford is the replacement for Walker, Miller & Watkins imo

    If we keep Nick Miller and/or Todd Watkins over Higgins I’m going postal!
    ——————————————————–

    RR- I think Nick MIller has more upside than HIggins. Let’s face it Higgins is shell shocked and probaly won’t snap out of it!

  631. HairyBush Says:

    No more Fargas, get new guys who aren’t used to losing and won’t tolerate it!

  632. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hairy: JLH “snapped out of it” last year when Russell was benched.

    from the KC game forward …

    he was out best WR in 2008 and nobody gave him a shot as a rookie in 2007 with Porter, Curry, Dwight & Williams on the roster!

  633. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Good morning, Raiders fans!

    How is everyone on his fine Monday morning… the first workweek day of a new era?

  634. RaiderRockstar Says:

    get new guys who aren’t used to losing and won’t tolerate it!

    ***

    Nnamdi Asomugha was drafted in 2003 and hasn’t won more than 5 games in a season yet.

    7 seasons and counting … I’m sure he’s “used to it” by now

  635. RaiderRockstar Says:

    whats up Steve?

    how was draft weekend for ya?

  636. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Nnamdi is in the same boat as Justin Fargas & Sam Williams (same draft class)

    all they’ve known in the NFL is losing!

  637. SteveAlford21 Says:

    RRs,

    Do not speak ill of Nnamdi Asomugha, for the repercussions are severe. Anyone as intelligent as he is cannot become used to losing, they merely tolerate it until they get a chance to leave town or until things change. Nnamdi’s predictive capabilities may have already told him that you would say that, leading him to launch retribution already… tread softly, bro.

    How you doin today?

  638. Mistabr0wn Says:

    JLH keeps a spot before Watkins and Holland because he has ST value.

  639. RaiderRockstar Says:

    well fellas, If we’re going to use a 3-4 defense on occassion … who will play NT?

    William Joseph? LOL!

    If Albert Haynesworth & Marcus Stroud can’t do it, i’ll go ahead and cross Dick Seymour off the list too.

  640. HairyBush Says:

    RR-look, I understand he was pretty good in 2008, in fact he was actually fun to watch. I watched every single game last year and truth be told after game 1- he sucked. Yes he had a few catches toward the end of the year, but wouldn’t you rather have a guy on your roster who is just as good of a reciver but can also return kicks, in a non-scard fashion? Like say Jacoby or perhaps N.Miller? There is only so many roster spots for wideouts. Let’s not forget most of us are still hoping for the Raiders to sign a veteran wideout. I believe in your case you want Mushin. I think you get the point that between Chaz, Murphy, DHB and a couple rookies there will be no room for the sideways punt returner.

  641. Dakota Says:

    I just hope JLH snaps out of his funk. He was one of our only real weapons in 2008.

  642. SteveAlford21 Says:

    I would rather have gotten Troy Smith than Jason Campbell, would liked to have gotten Gaither and wanted a big, run-stuffing DT (either through the draft or trade for Haynesworth), but otherwise, I don’t have any complaints. The draft itself went fairly well (except for picking up Tonga instead of drafting John Conner in the fifth). You know what… I actually have too many random thoughts at the moment… just woke up… I’ll make a more coherent post when my mind gets itself centered. All in all, it was a good draft.

  643. Mistabr0wn Says:

    JLH got wacked in week 1 or 2 and never was the same. JaMeatloaf hung him out to dry like he did to everybody. He should bounce back and be fine but he has to show something BIG in pre-season he doesn’t have a free pass.

  644. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Cant wait to see what Ford has under the hood! Would be nice if JLH hung on that would give us 2 return guys, nice!

  645. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Steve: I didn’t say anything bad about N21. I don’t blame him for what he’s gone through his first 7 seasons. I just pointed out the facts!

    doing great man. lovin’ me some post draft discussion

    Hue Jackson = new play caller
    Jason Campbell = new starting QB
    Veldeer, Campbell & Parsons = OL help
    Ford = return man
    Tonga & Moline = new starting FB (may the best man win)
    McFadden, Ware & Brown = depth in the secondary
    Goethel = backup MLB

    I want to be excited about McClain, but I’m gonna wait and see if we actually add a run stopper to the D-Line before making any assumptions regarding an improved run defense.

  646. HairyBush Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 8:24 am
    get new guys who aren’t used to losing and won’t tolerate it!

    ***

    Nnamdi Asomugha was drafted in 2003 and hasn’t won more than 5 games in a season yet.

    7 seasons and counting … I’m sure he’s “used to it” by now
    ———————————————–

    I think we can all agree Nnamdi is in a class all by himself, skills & intelligence etc; please do not lump him in with guys like Sam Williams

  647. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Am I the only one who thinks Nnamdi is the only Raider other than Charles Woodson that has deserved to wear #24? Should we force Huff to give it to him… maybe by order of Willie himself? I might just be too used to seeing Nnamdi in #21 by now, though…

  648. SteveAlford21 Says:

    If Huff continues to show the improvement that he showed last year, I say we let him keep #24 as a show of pride in him and faith that he will get to a pro-bowl level of play.

  649. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hairy: Nick Miller hasn’t proven anything.

    he didn’t prove to be a capable receiver or return man in actual games.

    so what if he caught some balls against John Holland, Jerome Boyd, John Bowie, Jason Horton & Michael Waddell in camp last year? who didn’t ???

    those guys suck!

    Justin Miller was our last good KR and Higgins was our last good PR (yes – I did just say that)

    I was fine with Nick Miller fighting with Watkins & Figurs for the 5th WR spot before Jacoby Ford was added. now the writing is on the wall for all 3 scrubs. sorry bro – just the way I see it :)

  650. HairyBush Says:

    SteveAlford21 Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 8:31 am
    I would rather have gotten Troy Smith than Jason Campbell, would liked to have gotten Gaither and wanted a big, run-stuffing DT (either through the draft or trade for Haynesworth), but otherwise, I don’t have any complaints. The draft itself went fairly well (except for picking up Tonga instead of drafting John Conner in the fifth). You know what… I actually have too many random thoughts at the moment… just woke up… I’ll make a more coherent post when my mind gets itself centered. All in all, it was a good draft.
    ——————————————————–

    Steve, I’ll admit I wanted Haynesworth too. I then realized that it would kind of be going in the opposite direction of what the team seems to be trying to do. I am of no disallusion of Haynesworths talent but, I don’t think we need a guy to start pouting if things arent going his way. Yes I want a Big run stuffing NT now, but the realty is we probaly aren’t going to get every single piece of the puzzle this year. That being said I am “geeked” lol about the weekends draft as well as the addition of Jason Campbell. Playoffs, or ar worst .500 ball could be on the horizon.

  651. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 7:49 am

    LMN: I’ll take Kevin Mawae too!

    he’s currently begging the Titans for a backup job. how sad. instant upgrade over Satele/Morris imo – I don’t care if he is 40 years old or whatever it is …
    ________________________________________________________

    I’d love to get him, if i should rank our FA needs and acquisition it would be
    1) Henderson
    2) Mawae
    99) Faneca

    LOL =)

    but just Mawae I would be thrilled

  652. RaiderRockstar Says:

    FACT: Nnamdi has not won more NFL games than 5 in a season since entering the league

    not opinion. not up for debate

  653. Raider O Says:

    Sign DT J Henderson!!!!

  654. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Jammy weighs 300 pounds now, He maybe our best candidate for a clogging DT…

  655. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 8:34 am
    Steve: I didn’t say anything bad about N21. I don’t blame him for what he’s gone through his first 7 seasons. I just pointed out the facts!

    doing great man. lovin’ me some post draft discussion

    Hue Jackson = new play caller
    Jason Campbell = new starting QB
    Veldeer, Campbell & Parsons = OL help
    Ford = return man
    Tonga & Moline = new starting FB (may the best man win)
    McFadden, Ware & Brown = depth in the secondary
    Goethel = backup MLB

    I want to be excited about McClain, but I’m gonna wait and see if we actually add a run stopper to the D-Line before making any assumptions regarding an improved run defense.

    **************************************

    Goethel = New starting Full Back. I can smell it.

  656. Raider O Says:

    Good Morning Nation.

    Great Draft!!!!!

  657. SteveAlford21 Says:

    LMN,

    I really wish you and everyone else would stop stealing my lines! I have been saying for over two years that we need to move JR to DT or OT if he can improve his footwork or learn to hold onto someone or something when he falls down.

  658. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 8:43 am

    FACT: Nnamdi has not won more NFL games than 5 in a season since entering the league

    not opinion. not up for debate
    ________________________________________________________

    true, but he also have had the worst defense to support him and one of the worst offense to make him stay on field…

    I hope you dont diss him, just that you are frustrated losing…

  659. RaiderRockstar Says:

    would anybody want Russell in the open QB competition if he did agree to a massive paycut?

    say $4 million instead of $9.5 million
    ($3 million is guaranteed anyway)

    I’d be fine with that. It’s not like Frye or Boller have what it takes to lead us to the playoffs either!

    haha – Having said that, Jason Campbell is in a different league than all 4 of these other guys

  660. JaMarcus Boucher Says:

    Source: JaMarcus Russell is up to 300 pounds

    A league source with knowledge of the situation in Oakland says JaMarcus Russell has beefed up to 300 pounds according to Aaron Wilson of the National Football Post.

    We’re also told that the former LSU star isn’t getting good advice from his family.

    “It’s a drag on the kid and they encourage his poor lifestyle,” an NFL source told the National Football Post.

    With Russell’s big contract, lack of conditioning, the acquisition of Jason Campbell and the presence of Kyle Boller and Bruce Gradkowski, the handwriting is carved into the wall on this one.

    http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/5783/Source–JaMarcus-Russell-is-up-to-300-pounds/Default.aspx

  661. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LMN: nobody is “dissing” Nnamdi

  662. JaMarcus Boucher Says:

    Momma is encouraging my poor lifestyle, she is da damn debil.

  663. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # SteveAlford21 Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 8:47 am

    LMN,

    I really wish you and everyone else would stop stealing my lines! I have been saying for over two years that we need to move JR to DT or OT if he can improve his footwork or learn to hold onto someone or something when he falls down.
    ________________________________________________________

    LOL, sowwy =)

    well then he could eat as he actually want to, so a paycut and a bit footwork training, he has armstrength…

    but ofcourse he thinks of himself as a QB, he would never take another position, he rather beat out Ryan Leaf as biggest bust… he is certainly big (pun intended)

  664. vegas raider Says:

    LOL….the great hits continue.

    Over/Under on days until Jamarcus is released: 17

  665. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Watching the second Denver game from last year right now… “That’s Chaz Schilens… he gets six… needed seven.” *sigh*

    Come on, Al… get us some better OL so the plays can develop and receivers can get into their routes…

  666. HairyBush Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 8:41 am
    Hairy: Nick Miller hasn’t proven anything.

    he didn’t prove to be a capable receiver or return man in actual games.

    so what if he caught some balls against John Holland, Jerome Boyd, John Bowie, Jason Horton & Michael Waddell in camp last year? who didn’t ???

    those guys suck!

    Justin Miller was our last good KR and Higgins was our last good PR (yes – I did just say that)

    I was fine with Nick Miller fighting with Watkins & Figurs for the 5th WR spot before Jacoby Ford was added. now the writing is on the wall for all 3 scrubs. sorry bro – just the way I see it
    ————————————————-
    Yes, we may not know for sure what Nick Miller can do, But I think we know for sure what Higgins can’t. That is why I used the word upside. I will not pretend like I have any more info than you do. I just use the reasoning of what I watch with my eyes as well as the belief that the coaching staff apperently had in N. Miller to keep him on the roster all year with hopes of him playing as opposed to putting him on injured reserve where he belonged. Seems like a lot of faith to put in someone when you are wasting a valuable roster spot IMO. As you said they will all probaly be gone, I would just like to get a look at what could be there in N.Miller. We can blame Russell for Higgins demise. It’s unfortunate because I did like him. BTW Justin Miller was a good return man but the fact he sucked at being a backup CB led to him being out of the leauge (moreso than his injury)

  667. Raider O Says:

    Al,

    Sign Henderson, add a C & vet FB, and the Raiders will go to the Playoffs! Print that!

  668. La Milicia Negra Says:

    RRS…

    great, you had me scared =)

  669. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Adalius Thomas & Clint Ingram both available.

    tempting!

    who’s next?

  670. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Yes, I realize that we just drafted two great OL prospects, but we need STARTERS.

    Hopefully we will snag Mawae and that name that eludes my foggy mind at the moment. Also gotta grab Henderson or trade for Haynesworth so we can have a DT.

  671. JaMarcus Boucher Says:

    # vegas raider Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 8:51 am

    LOL….the great hits continue.

    Over/Under on days until Jamarcus is released: 17

    ——————————————————-

    Fat boy has to be cut this week for the Raiders to save 6.45 million. They have already paid his guaranteed 30 mill. It’s time to cut ties with this fat loser.

  672. JaMarcus Boucher Says:

    Coach Klien thins we should pick up Faneca.

  673. Raider O Says:

    Vegas,

    Over.

  674. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # DirtyRaccoon Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 8:44 am

    Goethel = New starting Full Back. I can smell it.
    ________________________________________________________

    LOL, I think he will stay ILB thats how he was trained…

    I rather see Bruce Campbell as our FB… how sick would that be ?

  675. HairyBush Says:

    I am fine with J. Russ competing for starting spot if he takes a paycut. It’s comforting for me to know it is a competition he will not win.

  676. RaiderRockstar Says:

    one of 3 things will happen:

    1: we aren’t going to use a 3-4 defense (even on occassion)
    2: we will and William Joseph will play NT
    3: we’re currently searching for a 3-4 NT in free agency. waiting for teams to cut thier losses with vets after adding rookies to the roster

    which is it fellas?

  677. HairyBush Says:

    Who thinks Al had any say in first 3 picks?

  678. r8eray Says:

    I was reading on yahoo sports this morning. They were talking about the Raiders cuttinng JaBusto sometime this week!!

  679. Raider O Says:

    Sign DT J Henderson!!!

  680. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Boucher,

    I take back all the thoughts that I’ve had about you being a waste of space here… the name that was on the tip of my tongue was Allen Faneca. Thank you. We need to sign him and Mawae NOW! Then we have to either sign Henderson or trade for Haynesworth. If we make those three moves, we are in the playoffs this year, of that I have no doubt. If we DON’T do those things, we are 6-10, 7-9, or 8-8… all with no playoffs til 2011.

  681. HairyBush Says:

    RR- I hope we pick up Henderson!

  682. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Q: If Houston is an end, won’t you be a little light at tackle still?

    Cable: No. You’ll see the plan when we get there. It’s good. You’ll like it . . . It’s good. But we have some things we’re putting together to get it all sorted out, but you’ll see it in mini-camp.

    ***

    when does mini-camp start ???

  683. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    Shoulda took Tennant instead of McFadden #2 “DB” in the 5th.

    Yes, I am pickin Nits.

  684. r8eray Says:

    We are getting alot of thumbs up in the sports world on our draft this weekend!

  685. HairyBush Says:

    Cable is so vague

  686. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Q: Why do you like Houston more as an end than a tackle?

    Cable: I think because what we’re trying to do is become a little more physical in our defensive front.

    ***

    Shaughnessy-Seymour-Kelly-Houston

    is that considered “physical up front” ???

  687. SteveAlford21 Says:

    I finally saw that SportsScience special on Bruce Campbell… and I think that if we don’t get Henderson/Haynesworth, we should DEFINITELY convert him to DT. There’s our run-stuffer. Anyone who saw that special should know what I’m talkin about. He loves to hit people!

  688. HairyBush Says:

    Cable-”you’ll like it” lol

  689. The Big Banana Says:

    Russell could be cut this week…
    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-raiders_expected_to_cut_jamarcus_russell_soon_html-2010426

  690. JaMarcus Boucher Says:

    Alf:

    We haven’t had a real center since Robbins. We HAVE to pick up Faneca, the writing is on the wall, this is something we HAVE to pull the trigger on.

  691. Mistabr0wn Says:

    I think if they cut him loose this week they save 3 mil.
    The silver lining is cutting his sorry a$$ will improve team morale. JaMeatloaf is not respected in that locker room.
    ____

    # r8eray Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 8:59 am

    I was reading on yahoo sports this morning. They were talking about the Raiders cuttinng JaBusto sometime this week!!

  692. HairyBush Says:

    I can’t wait to see Bruce campbell on special teams. Imagine being a return man on the other team, and you see that beast running full speed at you! Ouch!

  693. inonewordraider Says:

    Shaughnessey Seymour Kelly Houston

    The only thing holding us back from being a playoff team is can our DL which basically consists of 4 3-4 ends stop the run and can one of our qb’s lead us there…

  694. r8eray Says:

    Now that the Oakland Raiders have moved forward by trading for quarterback Jason Campbell(notes), they’re poised to move on from bust JaMarcus Russell(notes).

    Russell is expected to be cut as soon as this week.

    The Raiders already have backup candidates in Kyle Boller and Bruce Gradkowski(notes), and Russell’s salary of $6.45 million and history of poor play can’t be ignored any longer.

    Russell has struggled with weight issues, reportedly weighing as much as 290 pounds in March

    According to the San Francisco Chronicle, the Raiders have extended Campbell’s deal through 2011. If the Raiders have Russell on the team this year, it would cost them $6.45 million.

    “I talked to Mr. Davis, and he wanted me for two years,” Campbell said. “He wants me to help their team to a new level.”

    Russell, the former top overall pick out of LSU, has thrown 18 touchdowns with 23 interceptions and lost 15 fumbles. He has completed only 52 percent of his throws, way too low a percentage for a starting quarterback.

    It’s unclear what team will want to give Russell another chance once he’s cut loose. His leadership and work ethic and his play are all suspect.

  695. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Cable-”you’ll like it” lol

    ***

    I know. what gives?

    “I’ll like it” if we finish in the Top 15 in run defense for once!

    haha

  696. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Just under 6 minutes left in the 1st Q… Nnamdi BLOWS UP Ryan Clady when he tried to line up eligible, but Marshall was on the line, making him ineligible. Too bad Nnamdi lost that tackle for loss in the stat book because the play was called back.

  697. r8eray Says:

    HairyBush Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 9:01 am
    Cable is so vague

    ___________________________________

    I’m geeked!

    :)

  698. Mistabr0wn Says:

    He had say in every pick. Do you think AL didn’t sign off on ANY draft pick EVER ?
    Wakeup..

    ______

    # HairyBush Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 8:57 am

    Who thinks Al had any say in first 3 picks?

  699. RaiderRockstar Says:

    NEW POST!

  700. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Boucher,

    I couldn’t agree more. That’s why I’ve been calling for Mawae and now Faneca.

  701. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 8:55 am
    # DirtyRaccoon Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 8:44 am

    Goethel = New starting Full Back. I can smell it.
    ________________________________________________________

    LOL, I think he will stay ILB thats how he was trained…

    I rather see Bruce Campbell as our FB… how sick would that be ?

    ************************

    Not only ILB sir, he is a GOOD FB also. His ability to knock people over gave him a shot at MLB. He was a very GOOD FB before.

  702. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    I think so. That’s a good DL that can rush the passer, and slow down the run for LBs to make plays. I like the idea off adding Henderson to the DL.

  703. Mistabr0wn Says:

    priesttj said Nick Miller is a DB Killer
    ____

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 8:41 am

    Hairy: Nick Miller hasn’t proven anything.

    he didn’t prove to be a capable receiver or return man in actual games.

  704. HairyBush Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 9:05 am
    He had say in every pick. Do you think AL didn’t sign off on ANY draft pick EVER ?
    Wakeup..

    ______

    # HairyBush Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 8:57 am

    Who thinks Al had any say in first 3 picks?
    ————————————————————–

    Dude, Im not an idiot. Obviously he signed off on them. He is Big Al the GM afterall. I think you know what I meant.

  705. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Good Morning Nation,
    1 of my 2 off season wishes will take place soon. The cutting of JaLoser. I will celebrate the day it happens. Very impressed by the draft and trade.

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    I don’t know if anybody answered this cause I didn’t take the time to read every post, but to the guys who asked if Brashton is Samson’s brother the answer is no. However, they are cousins. It’s common knowledge amongst us Warrior fans, but while there are a lot of Satele’s running around UH, these 2 are related. Samson also has a brother named Hercules who plays Guard as well and is currently playing in the AFL. Just FYI

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