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Pre-minicamp Raiders live chat, Wednesday at noon

By Jon Becker
Tuesday, April 27th, 2010 at 5:01 pm in Live chats, Oakland Raiders.

Will Jason Campbell’s arrival mean JaMarcus Russell’s departure? How will the Raiders draftees fit in? Our Jerry McDonald fields your Raiders questions on Wednesday, April 28 at noon PDT.

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  • fat kidd

    Thec07 Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
    I would like to get a take ffrom a pro JRUSS supporter on who will win tthe starting job Cambell or JRUSS.

    …………………….at this time of night all jamoneyfornothin supporters are on lockdown

  • http://atm Raider O

    Who gave the Retarded Monkey Raider a keyboard?!
    EFF the Union’s Retarded Monkey, the Whore that gave him birth, and the union Monkey who got her Nasty ass pregnant.

    EFF the attention whore-bastard- Retarded Monkey Raider, and EFF your union!

  • fat kidd

    Jamissthemarcus is probably going to be black balled in the nfl

  • Thec07

    If words could kill, whom ever O is going after would be dead. If I had to guess, I would say it was one of the “semi-professional” bloggers, like MR…

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Raider O, that was confusing and hard to understand, kind of like an Al Davis press conference.

    “but who called mortenson? Huh Lane? Who called Mortenson?”

    *crowd looks at each other and shrugs.

  • Thec07

    someone will give him a chance i about a year or 2 maybe. Hope he saved all his chips… what an idiot…

  • fat kidd

    DuhMarcus
    Ruffles will have to go to the cfl or ufl

  • NorthernD

    It looks like the release of JaMarcus will happen sooner or later (before week 1).
    That being the case, JaMarcus and his agent may want to force the Raiders to make a decision on him right away. That would allow him to sign with another team and spend the off season getting familiar with the new offence.
    I’m sure he could focus on football for a few months and convince another team he was worth the gamble.
    Micheal Vick got a second chance after two years away from the game.

  • Thec07

    How the hell could I have guessed that. I am on a roll…

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Thec, semi professional? Interesting term. If one NFL team over the course of the last 7 years could be considered semi professional, guess who it would be?

  • Chris in NY

    mack-madden Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
    Jason Campbell was the best QB coming out of the 2005 draft.

    Alex smith came from a spread offense.

    Aaron Rodgers had a lot of question marks cuz of tedford’s past QB production in NFL.
    ( akili smith. Joey harrington. Kyle boller. )

    why he was the third QB picked is another story.

    ———————-

    Campbell was considered a minor reach by the Redskins at the end of Round 1 that year. In retrospect it’s clear Rodgers was by far the best and there was a lot of debate about whether Smith or Rodgers would go No. 1.

    Why do you say Campbell was the best? And what does “why he was the third QB picked is another story” mean?

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Until the release of Al Davis (perhaps from life support…): 5-11.

  • Zymurge

    raidertalk Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    Ah well its kinda sad and predictable that Russell would fail. He had no oline help, a bunch of rookie wideouts and some of the worst playcalling this side of Detroit.

    —-

    It’s not all black and white. There’s an awful lot of cause and effect involved. A QB can make an OL and the WRs look really good or really bad, and vice-versa. A medicore QB with tons of time will find open WRs and a Pro-Bowler behind a seive will get mauled. Rookie WRs can be made to look like world killers with a good QB (see Indy), while a bad QB can make great WRs look horrible with passes in the wrong place, wrong time, the wrong touch. When it comes to play calling, if the play is not executed as it is called, is the issue the call itself? As a corollary, if the playbook must be dumbed down so far to fit the limitations of the personnel and the defense can easily guess what’s coming, is that more of an issue with the play calling or the personnel itself?

    One semi-scientific way to find the root cause of a problem is to change only one variable at a time and try the same experiments. The closest that we have to this is seeing how the team fared with someone not wearing #2 at QB. The results were pretty clear improvement. The fact is that a supposedly super talented franchise QB was outperformed but not one, but two journeyman QBs that couldn’t keep backup jobs on other teams. When either of those two were in the game, the facts are that the line played better (not awesome, but they gave up less sacks and the running game was improved), the WRs made more plays, and the play calling seemed goog enough to move the chains.

    With lack of decent evidence it’s easy to conject that the situation was the root cause. But the evidence pretty clearly said otherwise. The only experiment left to prove otherwise is to see Russell on a different team and measure his success there. But that’s dependent on someone actually wanting to give him a shot. If he doesn’t get one, that’s pretty telling too, unless you propose to know more than 31 other sets of professional evaluators of talent at the NFL level.

  • JB

    # Tom cables pimp hand Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    How much you wanna bet when the raiders release jablubber, the patriots will be the team to give him a second chance.
    ************************

    I can’t think of any other QB I rather see in the opponents backfield. We’d only have to cover 1/2 the field and when putting pressure on the QB, being prepared for the recovery of the sure fumbles. Been there & done that when we were on his side of the ball – it’s simply not fun or the right place to be. He’s gotta be worth 7-14 points for every opponent he faces.

  • Thec07

    I am not really sure who is the best out of those 3, but Campbell has had to do the most, with the least…

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Here we go.

    Kool aid’s on tap.

    mack-madden Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    Jason Campbell was the best QB coming out of the 2005 draft.

    Alex smith came from a spread offense.

    Aaron Rodgers had a lot of question marks cuz of tedford’s past QB production in NFL.

  • http://atm Raider O

    Retarded Monkey Raider,

    I know you are confused, but that’s not an excuse for your ignorance.
    Stop being an attention whore, and develop self esteem you little bastard monkey. WTF is wrong with you? Did mommy give you too much love? Grow up and stop seeking attention!

  • NorthernD

    Zymurge

    Nicely stated.

  • Thec07

    It’s not all black and white. There’s an awful lot of cause and effect involved. A QB can make an OL and the WRs look really good or really bad, and vice-versa. A medicore QB with tons of time will find open WRs and a Pro-Bowler behind a seive will get mauled. Rookie WRs can be

    philip rivers…

  • NorthernD

    Which team would give JaMarcus a look?

  • Thec07

    you little bastard monkey.

    ROFLMAO…

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    And I’m sure Mack Madden was saying all throughout ’05 that Campbell was the best QB drafted that year. Yeh.

  • http://atm Raider O

    Thec,

    I don’t usually do that, but that Monkey went ape sh!t! lol

  • hendu

    post 101,except for me,I guess.Im pulling for the young man, seen many change,comes with peer pressure sometimes,the family name,tired of being roasted in the press,etc.Again,he needs to nut up and fight ,man,cuz thats where hes at. RAIDERS!!! O,whats up,bro?

  • Zymurge

    # NorthernD Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    Which team would give JaMarcus a look?

    ====

    Team Kobiyashi?

  • fat kidd

    hendu Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
    post 101,except for me,I guess.Im pulling for the young man, seen many change,comes with peer pressure sometimes,the family name,tired of being roasted in the press,etc.Again,he needs to nut up and fight ,man,cuz thats where hes at. RAIDERS!!! O,whats up,bro?

    ………………………..i hope janormous russell succeeds somewhere else,i dont have the patience of waiting 5 to 10 years,and tired of being roasted in the press ,a professional player does not take that on the field your head needs to be in the game

  • fat kidd

    NorthernD Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
    Which team would give JaMarcus a look?

    i believe the chiefs would

  • NorthernD

    Zymurge Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
    # NorthernD Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    Which team would give JaMarcus a look?

    ====

    Team Kobiyashi?
    ===========================
    Joey Chestnut is the man now.

    On a side note, I saw a documentary on Kobiyashi, and I almost pi$$ed myself laughing at how much food the guy ate in training. It was insane.

  • NorthernD

    fat kidd,
    The Chiefs are a possibility. I’m sure JaMarcus would love to be a chef for the revenge factor.
    But having after Brady all those years, I can’t see Pioli wanting to sign JR.

  • raidertalk

    Zymurge Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    One semi-scientific way to find the root cause of a problem is to change only one variable at a time and try the same experiments.
    *******************************************************
    I agree with you that there was better production when the QBs changed…but look what happened they did get in there (injuries). In terms of development of a rookie/2nd year did not have the play calling that a Mark Sanchez benefited from in NY. A lot of runs limited passing out of the play-action to help get a rhythm. Instead there was 1st down bombs(Denver game).

    We probably could have established the run with the talent that we had.

    But in the end if he did not want to learn the playbook, be in-shape, and accept accountabilty…no one could have helped him.

  • BigZ@CSM

    Hey Guys i havent posted in a while but i read the blog everyday. I just heard on fox and espn radio that jawalrus was released!!!!!

  • NorthernD

    Jacksonville may be the future home of JR.
    It’s a small market team with not much media coverage to rip on him.
    They have no long range plan at QB and could gamble on someone like JR.
    Perhaps the best reason is that it’s close to Mobile. What better place for a Momma’s boy to play, than near his Momma.

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