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Raiders top 10 defenders

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, April 27th, 2010 at 9:55 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Here’s how they ranked the top 10 Raiders defenders of all-time Tuesday on the NFL Network’s Total Access, with Nnamdi Asomugha as co-host:

1 CB Willie Brown

2 DE Howie Long

3 LB Ted Hendricks

4 CB Mike Haynes

5 CB Lester Hayes

6 FS Jack Tatum

7 LB Rod Martin

8 DT Chester McGlockton

9 CB Charles Woodson

10 CB Nnamdi Asomugha

Exactly who voted and how they arrived at the decision was not disclosed.

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601 Responses to “Raiders top 10 defenders”

  1. RaiderDuck Says:

    Aso should be a couple of slots higher. And why do they have McGlockton instead of Alzado???

  2. RaiderNsuede Says:

    Not bad.

  3. No Mas Diamante Says:

    No Snake?

  4. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Oops defenders… my bad. my turn to put the pipe down… lol…

  5. BigZ@CSM Says:

    Hey Guys i havent posted in a while but i read the blog everyday. I just heard on fox and espn radio that jawalrus was released!!!!! Dont know if its true but 2 radios stations on sirus said the same thing.

  6. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    It sucks that I’m only old enough to see two of these players in their prime.

    Does that say more about me or the team over the last 25 years

  7. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Hope it’s true Bigz. Have to admit tho that there is a part of me that wanted to see Russell make it. That arm … what a waste… oh well. Time to move on…

  8. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Here is some more for the list,

    George Atkinson

    Ben Davidson

    Matt Millen

    Phil Vilapiano

    Reggie Kinlaw

    Greg Townsend

    James Trapp (just kidding)

    Eddie Anderson

    Greg Biekert

    Terry McDaniel

    Otis Sistrunk

  9. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    I forgot Dan Birdwell.

  10. stoopidmike Says:

    Sweep The Leg. Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
    Here is some more for the list,

    George Atkinson

    Ben Davidson

    Matt Millen

    Phil Vilapiano

    Reggie Kinlaw

    Greg Townsend

    James Trapp (just kidding)

    Eddie Anderson

    Greg Biekert

    Terry McDaniel

    Otis Sistrunk
    ============================
    No doubt terry mcdaniel,so underrated…Also lionel washington and albert lewis

  11. stoopidmike Says:

    Anthony Smith too had some great years

  12. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Raider O Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    We were 5-11 last season with no OC, no QB (sorry Vegas), bad OL, and a below avg rushing attack. We added 2 OTs, a Vet QB (who has more TDs than INTs, and completed over 60% of his passes), a DE/DT, and an OC.

    We did improve!!
    BTW, Campbell has a career rating of 82.3!

    …………

    5-11

  13. Raider O Says:

    STL,

    No G Atkinson?!

  14. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Albert will always be linked to the Chiefs though.

    A. Smith could ball.

  15. Chris in NY Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
    Chris in NY Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
    Thec07 Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
    I am not really sure who is the best out of those 3, but Campbell has had to do the most, with the least…

    ———————-

    Really? I’m not trying to knock Campbell, but Aaron Rodgers has emerged as one of the best QBs in the NFL. I’d put him right at No. 4 behind Manning, Brees and Brady.

    +=++=

    really…

    —————-

    Definitely. Rodgers is coming off back-to-back 4,000 yard seasons with a QB rating of about 98.5 over that time. Those were his first two seasons as a starter.

    He’s averaging over 4,200 yards, 29 TDs and 10 INTs over that span while being one of the best scrambling QBs in the NFL. He’s playing behind a garbage offensive line and GB has a below average rushing attack. He hasn’t obviously had the career of a Favre, Roethlisberger or probably some others near the top of the heap, but right now for 2010 I’d have him no lower than No. 4 and I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s looking better than Brady after this season.

    You could make a case for Rivers or Roethlisberger or even Favre based on last year’s numbers, but my eye tells me Rodgers is a sharper, crisper QB who will challenge for the MVP this season.

  16. Raider75 Says:

    Where’s Anthony Dorsett?

    I can’t believe he didn’t make the list.

    Or Torin Dorn?

    Man, this list is BS!!!

    LOL!

  17. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Check the list again O.

  18. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I just did a google search. A hundred articles about Russell being released, then a few where Cable is saying that Russell will compete with Campbell for the starting job. Cable’s really got his finger on the pulse, doesn’t he? Al Davis’s head coach is lower than the f’n fans on the totem poll. What a joke this organization is.

  19. 17BobTreyO Says:

    Yeah! Where’s Lyle Alzado? Vann McELroy & Sean Jones…Townsend is the Raiders all time leader in Sacks I believe

  20. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Lets make an all time worst roster by position.

    I’ll go first.

    QB Jamarcus Russell.

  21. BigZ@CSM Says:

    Man i watched that sports science segment with bruce campbell OMG that guys is a beast. They simulated a tackle pulling and he generated 2700lbs of force with his hit! Then he stopped a swinging 300lb bag without even being stood up.

    I hope he pans out

  22. Raider75 Says:

    # Sweep The Leg. Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    Lets make an all time worst roster by position.

    I’ll go first.

    QB Jamarcus Russell.
    ……….

    lol. get the easy one out of the way sweep.

  23. Raider O Says:

    Yes retarded!!
    5-11!!
    We added a vet QB!!
    We added 2 OL!!
    We added an OC!!
    We will improve!!

    Is that slow enough for you retard?

  24. stoopidmike Says:

    Raider75 Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
    # Sweep The Leg. Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    Lets make an all time worst roster by position.

    I’ll go first.

    QB Jamarcus Russell.
    ……….

    lol. get the easy one out of the way sweep.
    ===========================================
    Marinovich, and quite possibly DHB (its early)
    And All of our recent busts as far as raiders go (J.Walker,De.Hall,Larry Brown)

  25. 17BobTreyO Says:

    Also missing the “Tooz” John Matuzak

  26. Raider O Says:

    STL,

    lol. I blame the weed!

  27. No Mas Diamante Says:

    9-7 minimum… nuff said…

  28. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Alzado was awesome in s&b…

  29. Raider75 Says:

    ol Todd Marijuanavich.

    I almost forgot about that dude.

    What a douche.

  30. hendu Says:

    post 26, whats weed mean,bro? Raider O,whats up young fella? RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  31. Try Some Reality Says:

    This team improved tremendously over the weekend. Looking forward to Lennie Small being released.

  32. magic man Says:

    Hey c’mon you gotta thrown in George “The Destroyer” Atkinson!

  33. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    All Time Worst Offense:

    QB J Russell

    RB Nick Bell

    RB Ty Montgomery —- 165 lbs soaking wet

    TE Rickey Dudley

    OT Pat Harlow, Cornell Green

    G OK, I can’t remember any names right now.

    C B Robbins ——– NEVER FORGET!!!

    WR Javon Walker, Alvis Whitted, DHB

    K Cole Ford ——- kuckoo, kuckoo

  34. lefty12 Says:

    How could the top 20 not include MLB Dan Conners?????

  35. Chris in NY Says:

    I do think we’re going to see some big, big plays if Campbell does indeed win the starting job. Probably the best aspect of his game is throwing an accurate deep ball and if Cable isn’t just blowing smoke about DHB being dramatically better, we could have a half-dozen WRs who can take it to the house on any play (Schilens, Murphy, DHB, JLH, Ford and Nick Miller). There’s not a guy in that bunch who doesn’t run a sub 4.4.

  36. Coach on Wheels Says:

    John Matuzak over Chester. Ben Davidson too. Heck, how about a Top 10 Raider Defenders Better Than McGlockton?
    Tooz
    Ben D
    Otis S
    Phil Villipiano
    Atkinson
    Kinlaw
    Bill Pikel
    Biekert (Mr Underrated)
    Millen
    Vann McElroy

  37. Try Some Reality Says:

    LOL, STL!!! I know you’re sticking Robbins in there just for the simple fact that he went AWOL for the SuperBowl. Otherwise, that guy could play when his head was right.

  38. hendu Says:

    Post 26, you can find some weed killers at Costco,lucky,etc Hows school goin, young fella? Raiders!!!!!!

  39. NorthernD Says:

    Eddie Anderson racked up a ton of tackles on some really bad teams.

    I’d definitely keep McGlockton ahead of Alzado.

  40. Raider O Says:

    Hendu,

    I’m doing great, and how are you sir?
    lol it means Mary Jane!! I love her! Raiders!!!!!!

  41. YoungAmerican Says:

    McGlockton over Otis Sistrunk? Seriously?

  42. lefty12 Says:

    Biekert was in the same mold as Conners-smarter than hell and a great run stuffer-but not quite as good.

  43. RaiderNsuede Says:

    For sure McDaniel and VanMcelroy was a feared Safety during his hey day

  44. Chris in NY Says:

    Prediction: We haven’t seen the last of Nick Miller by a longshot.

  45. lefty12 Says:

    YoungAmerican-#41-I wouldn’t agree with that.

  46. Raider O Says:

    Hendu,

    LMAO @ Weed Killers.
    School is great, but the budget cuts have made things more complicated for faculty and students.

  47. lefty12 Says:

    Also missing is Kent McCloughin-a great CB !!

  48. stoopidmike Says:

    Sweep The Leg. Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
    All Time Worst Offense:

    QB J Russell

    RB Nick Bell

    RB Ty Montgomery —- 165 lbs soaking wet

    TE Rickey Dudley

    OT Pat Harlow, Cornell Green

    G OK, I can’t remember any names right now.

    C B Robbins ——– NEVER FORGET!!!

    WR Javon Walker, Alvis Whitted, DHB

    K Cole Ford ——- kuckoo, kuckoo
    ———————————————
    I wasnt much of a fan of RB’s turtleneck Harvey Williams and Greg Robinson (as far as starters go)

  49. YoungAmerican Says:

    # lefty12 Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    YoungAmerican-#41-I wouldn’t agree with that.

    —————

    Really? I’ve always viewed Sistrunk as one of the best Raiders defensive linemen of all time.

  50. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    All Time Worst Defense:

    DT Terdell Sands, Warren Sapp —– Loudmouth

    DE Bob Buckowski, Tyler Brayton

    LB Sam Williams, Rob Frederickson, James Folston

    CB Meangelo Hall, James Trapp

    S Anthony Dorsett, Patrick Bates

    P Leo Araguz

  51. lefty12 Says:

    If Priest were around I’m sure he could add to the list.I wonder if he is banned like it is probable that KK is.

  52. stoopidmike Says:

    Our QB battle of Marc Wilson/Rusty Hilger was disgusting too…..Donald Hollas???

  53. lefty12 Says:

    YA-I guess I wasn’t clear-I’d rank Otis higher.

  54. stoopidmike Says:

    Sweep The Leg. Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
    All Time Worst Defense:

    DT Terdell Sands, Warren Sapp —– Loudmouth

    DE Bob Buckowski, Tyler Brayton

    LB Sam Williams, Rob Frederickson, James Folston

    CB Meangelo Hall, James Trapp

    S Anthony Dorsett, Patrick Bates

    P Leo Araguz
    —————————
    Stuart Schweigert………

  55. YoungAmerican Says:

    # lefty12 Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    YA-I guess I wasn’t clear-I’d rank Otis higher.

    —————

    Oh okay, yeah I misunderstood. Otis was definitely one hell of a player.

  56. Coach on Wheels Says:

    All Time Raider Worst QBs (must have played)

    Donald Hollis
    Aaron Brooks
    Todd Marinovich
    Marques Tui
    Wade Wilson
    A Walter
    J McCown
    and the Worst – JaRussell

  57. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    I stand corrected Mike.

    Put Schwiegert on that list.

  58. stoopidmike Says:

    Larry Brown at CB was WORST than Trapp IMO. Trapp didnt cost as much $ and wasnt on the field as much to get burned

  59. Coach on Wheels Says:

    Oh forgot Rusty!

  60. stoopidmike Says:

    And How Can we forget RAGHIB ISMAEL/JAMES JETT/DESMOND HOWARD.

  61. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Bad QB’s

    David Humm

    Billy Joe Hobert

  62. stoopidmike Says:

    Coach on Wheels Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
    All Time Raider Worst QBs (must have played)

    Donald Hollis
    Aaron Brooks
    Todd Marinovich
    Marques Tui
    Wade Wilson
    A Walter
    J McCown
    and the Worst – JaRussell
    ———————————
    Hostetler and Schroeder didnt do much…..I must admit though,i was a fan of BILLY JOE HOBERT

  63. NorthernD Says:

    Sweep The Leg. Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
    All Time Worst Defense:

    DT Terdell Sands, Warren Sapp —– Loudmouth

    DE Bob Buckowski, Tyler Brayton

    LB Sam Williams, Rob Frederickson, James Folston

    CB Meangelo Hall, James Trapp

    S Anthony Dorsett, Patrick Bates

    P Leo Araguz

    ============================
    Larry Brown has to be on that list. Maybe even Elvis “toast” Patterson.

  64. stoopidmike Says:

    Billy joe was tough,he just couldnt stay healthy….He started over Brunell in College,then got in some trouble

  65. hendu Says:

    post46, OOOO,hey man,lmao trying to send a message to ya!I mean lmao!!! Glad you and Mary Jane have hooked up again,will talk with ya later, gotta crash out! Raiders!!!!!!

  66. NorthernD Says:

    I give David Humm credit. The guy had no talent yet managed to hold the back-up job for years.
    He must have had pictures of Al.

  67. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Hobert had to kick fg’s once in the preseason against NE.

  68. lefty12 Says:

    Humm wasn’t nearly as bad as those others.As much as most hated Schweigert,he wasn’t nearly as bad as Gibson and Bates or Dorsett for that matter.He did lead the team in tackles something like 3 years in a row.

  69. Tom cables pimp hand Says:

    The real madden hater… is a dumb hoe b***H.lol Joke of a fan… Oh I forgot he’s not even a raider fan but spends everyday on a raiders blog.hahaha what a loser. Hates al davis, thinks the organization is a joke but yet follows the team.smh If you feel that low bout the raiders why don’t you find another team and another blog. You bash the raiders more than that “charged up the butt loser.” lol what a weenie you are trmr. loser

  70. stoopidmike Says:

    Andre Rison was a good Raider for a year……Guess he got blackballed after that.Jeff George Lit it up before he whined his way out of town.Ronnie Lott/Rod Woodson were good Raiders in their brief cameos

  71. Try Some Reality Says:

    If Priest were around I’m sure he could add to the list.I wonder if he is banned like it is probable that KK is.
    =============================================
    Priest is probably staying away because of the news of his boy Russell. KK just might be banned though, and it would be about time.

  72. Coach on Wheels Says:

    Heck Hoss was a Hall of Famer compared to some of these guys. I left Jay Schreoder off only because of that 33-30 OT comeback on MNF at Denver. Classic.

    Didn’t we sign Rodney Peete too?

  73. NorthernD Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
    If Priest were around I’m sure he could add to the list.I wonder if he is banned like it is probable that KK is.
    ==================
    More likely too embarrassed to comment after JaMarcus is going to be handed his walking papers.

  74. stoopidmike Says:

    Sweep The Leg. Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
    Hobert had to kick fg’s once in the preseason against NE.
    ——————–
    Punted too

  75. stoopidmike Says:

    And we can’t forget ERIC TURNER RIP What a stud

  76. Raider O Says:

    Hendu,

    Mary Jane has nothing but love for me. lol
    Have a great night sir.

    RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!

  77. Coach on Wheels Says:

    Don’t forget the other Russell bust…DT Darryl Russell

  78. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    If overthrowing recievers by 7 yards was the goal, Jay Schroeder would be in the hall of fame.

  79. NorthernD Says:

    Eric Turner would definitely have been on that list. RIP.

  80. stoopidmike Says:

    I was partial to Derrick Gibson,i’m an FSU fan….Kinda reminds me of Huff.Hasnt lived up to college career,but we keep plugging him in…Scholarship?

  81. stoopidmike Says:

    Coach on Wheels Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
    Don’t forget the other Russell bust…DT Darryl Russell
    ——————————-
    Yeah but he made a couple pro bowls.Not A complete bust

  82. stoopidmike Says:

    Russell Maryland,another “raider russell bust”

  83. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Did you ever hear Derrick Gibson “talk”.

    By comparison, he made Jamarcus sound like Winston Churchill.

  84. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Lester Hayes would have had pity on Gibsons oratory skills.

  85. NorthernD Says:

    I don’t see how Rod Martin makes that list. He had some solid seasons but nothing spectacular.
    His career highlight was the 3 interception game, but I don’t think that should be enough to put him on that list.
    Sean Jones, Anthony Smith or another D lineman should be ahead of him.

  86. tonga Says:

    I WILL STOMP NUTS THIS YEAR….

  87. Coach on Wheels Says:

    Derrick Gibson = Mush-mouth from the old Fat Albert cartoon

    come to think of it JamRussell can play Fat Albert, neighborhood buck-buck champ.

  88. NorthernD Says:

    stoopidmike Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
    Russell Maryland,another “raider russell bust”
    =========================

    And Aundray Bruce.

  89. stoopidmike Says:

    NorthernD Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
    I don’t see how Rod Martin makes that list. He had some solid seasons but nothing spectacular.
    His career highlight was the 3 interception game, but I don’t think that should be enough to put him on that list.
    Sean Jones, Anthony Smith or another D lineman should be ahead of him.
    —————————————-
    I thought the same…Terry McDaniel is easy top 10 for me.He was consistent for yrs….Rod gets credit because of the many years as a raider i assume

  90. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    NorthernD Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:56 pm

    I don’t see how Rod Martin makes that list. He had some solid seasons but nothing spectacular.
    His career highlight was the 3 interception game, but I don’t think that should be enough to put him on that list.================================================

    Rod Martins 3 interceptions in a super bowl would be EVERY players career highlight.

  91. stoopidmike Says:

    NorthernD Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
    stoopidmike Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
    Russell Maryland,another “raider russell bust”
    =========================

    And Aundray Bruce.
    ————————————–
    Bruce did his job in “LA”/Oak,he rushed the passer off the bench,got a few sacks in limited role.I dont think we paid him much,i thought he was decent.Now as far as the FALCONS go,Definite bust (2nd overall pick i think)

  92. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    G’Nite fellas.

  93. stoopidmike Says:

    Sweep The Leg. Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
    NorthernD Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:56 pm

    I don’t see how Rod Martin makes that list. He had some solid seasons but nothing spectacular.
    His career highlight was the 3 interception game, but I don’t think that should be enough to put him on that list.================================================

    Rod Martins 3 interceptions in a super bowl would be EVERY players career highlight.
    ————————————-
    Larry Brown returned 2 for TD’S…..so there you go

  94. lefty12 Says:

    L.Brown did that for the Cowgirls,not the Raiders.

  95. tonga Says:

    I saw some footage of Ro-mac and damn he is huge and
    athletic, just what we needed a presence in the middle.

  96. NorthernD Says:

    stoopidmike Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
    NorthernD Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
    stoopidmike Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
    Russell Maryland,another “raider russell bust”
    =========================

    And Aundray Bruce.
    ————————————–
    Bruce did his job in “LA”/Oak,he rushed the passer off the bench,got a few sacks in limited role.I dont think we paid him much,i thought he was decent.Now as far as the FALCONS go,Definite bust (2nd overall pick i think)
    =======================
    Yeah, I’ll agree with that.

  97. NorthernD Says:

    If you’re going off one great superbowl game, then why not add Jack Squirek to that list?

  98. stoopidmike Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
    L.Brown did that for the Cowgirls,not the Raiders.
    =====================================
    I’m totally aware of that. The comment was about rod martin getting 3 in one game.dude then said it would be a career game for anybody.I mentioned larry as saying it dont mean squat.One game don’t make a career

  99. 310 Raider-scum Says:

    Coach on Wheels Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
    All Time Raider Worst QBs (must have played)

    Donald Hollis
    Aaron Brooks
    Todd Marinovich
    Marques Tui
    Wade Wilson
    A Walter
    J McCown
    and the Worst – JaRussell

    You have to take Wilson off the list, I was at game when he came off the bench cold, and threw a 80 yard TD with less than 1min on the clock to James Jett to beat the chargers.

  100. lefty12 Says:

    Yes,But R.Martin was a good player for the Raiders for many years.Brown sucked from the first day he put on a Raider uniform.The discussion was about best and worst Raiders-as you noted with A.Bruce only in reverse.

  101. stoopidmike Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
    Yes,But R.Martin was a good player for the Raiders for many years.Brown sucked from the first day he put on a Raider uniform.The discussion was about best and worst Raiders-as you noted with A.Bruce only in reverse.
    ————————————————–
    No doubt.I assure you i wasnt comparing rod martin to larry brown.I only compared the super bowl games they were in.I would not put rod martin in top ten based on longevity.That’s just my opinion.

  102. 30 year raider Says:

    were are all the jamarcus russell supporters???? id take on all bets that he will never ever see the playing field as a nfl qb once that fatt f*uk gets cut this week!

  103. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Raider O Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    Yes retarded!!
    5-11!!
    We added a vet QB!!
    We added 2 OL!!
    We added an OC!!
    We will improve!!

    Is that slow enough for you retard?

    ……………

    5-11.

    Give Al Davis the pro bowl roster: 5-11.

    Our problem is organizational, not personnel.

  104. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    We added a vet QB…lol. Give me a break. Hear that? *Keeeeerrry Cooooollllins”

  105. 30 year raider Says:

    ill even take this moron called real madden raider…
    change that name to poser raider!!!! or haterraider!! that be more fitting!!!

  106. RaiderRetribution Says:

    agree with first six, after that Mr. Ben Davidson should be at 7, Mr. Vann McElroy at 8, with Mr. Woodson & Mr. Asomugha tied at 10, (Nnamdi has the opportunity to climb the list).

    Who at #9 you say.

    Well the one that head coach Chuck Knox said, [paraphrased] “He accounts for 45 yard original line of scrimmage disadvantage to the Raider’s opponents every game.”

    That would be Mr. Ray Guy, his special teams set up the Raider defense for years, he earned his name on the top ten list as well as the NFL Hall of Fame!

  107. 310 Raider-scum Says:

    I guess somebody wanted Jeff Garcia running around in his tight black shorts this weekend. Sorry Just had to mention that, I not challenging the greatest cynical Raider fan of our time. MDR wins every battle before he call it a night.

  108. Nnamdi21 Says:

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/draftermath

  109. Alameda_Lee Says:

    No Matt Millen

  110. Alameda_Lee Says:

    Not one person here mentioned Greg Townsend.I would take him over Chester anytime.I met him in Hawaii and I said to him I loved the way he always chased Elway down either sacked him or shoved Elway down right when he threw the ball away and he could not not stop laughing with me at that thought.

  111. stabler Says:

    stoopidmike Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
    Coach on Wheels Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
    All Time Raider Worst QBs (must have played)

    Donald Hollis
    Aaron Brooks
    Todd Marinovich
    Marques Tui
    Wade Wilson
    A Walter
    J McCown
    and the Worst – JaRussell
    ———————————
    Hostetler and Schroeder didnt do much…..I must admit though,i was a fan of BILLY JOE HOBERT

    I will add Rusty Hilger to the list. And for those who remember, Marc Wilson was just about as hated as Jamumbles is now. Al started Wilson over Plunkett most of the 1981 season even though Plunkett won the Super Bowl over the Eagles the previous year and was the starting QB virtually the whole season after Pastorini was hurt. And Plunkett would of course go on to win another Super Bowl, while Al messed around with putting Wilson in the starting lineup off and on during those years. Wilson truly sucked.

  112. stabler Says:

    Really great article on why Daryle Lamonica (not Stabler or Plunkett) is the greatest Raiders QB ever:

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=3203

  113. Rhino Says:

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5116722

  114. Seymour Bush Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says: Who Cares? No, really, who cares?

  115. Raider-405 Says:

    Chester McGlockton – WTF Seriously??

    Is this Top 10 defenders or name one from the list that owns Fat Burgers??

  116. bcz24 Says:

    Morning Nation. RMR reminds me of the guy from Major League 2. He sits at the games pouting and complaining that the team sucks and whaaaa whaaa whaaa… when we turn it around this year he is going to be jumping around like a little kid telling anyone who will listen that he said it all along.

  117. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Cards got Faneca for only $2.5 million!

    Packers signed undrafted NT Aleric Mullins!

    not sure why the Raiders weren’t all over these dudes?

    and if Ciron Black REALLY IS still available (Steelers reports were inaccurate?) then go get him today!

  118. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raiders top 10 defenders on the current roster:

    1. Nnamdi Asomugha
    2. Richard Seymour
    3. Michael Huff
    4. Tyvon Branch
    5. Trevor Scott
    6. Kamerion Wimbley
    7. Matt Shaughnessy
    8. Chris Johnson
    9. Tommy Kelly
    10. Thomas Howard

    obviously none of us have seen McClain, Houston & McFadden play yet … Ware, Brown or Goethel either

    Bryant, Joseph, Cooper, Groves, Boyd, R. Brown, Ekejiuba, Eugene, Gunheim, Mitchell, Nixon, Norris, Richardson, Routt & Williams ??? nothing special (yet)

  119. bcz24 Says:

    I dont think the Raiders wanted to pay Faneca 2.5 mil to back up Gallery. They dont seem too interested in signing veteran FA’s in general.

  120. RaiderDuck Says:

    Who can blame them after the Javon Walker/DeAngelo Hall/Gibril Wilson debacle of a few years ago?

  121. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raiders top 10 offensive players on the current roster:

    1. Zach Miller
    2. Robert Gallery
    3. Jason Campbell
    4. Chaz Schilens
    5. Michael Bush
    6. Darren McFadden
    7. Louis Murphy
    8. Johnnie Lee Higgins
    9. Bruce Gradkowski
    10. Mario Henderson

    obviously none of us have seen Veldheer, Campbell & Ford play yet …

    Frye, Boller, Barnes, Pears, Carlisle, Satele, Morris, Cartwright, Figurs, Heyward-Bey, N. Miller, Holland, Myers, Stewart, Lawton, Reece, Walker & Watkins ??? nothing special (yet)

  122. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I dont think the Raiders wanted to pay Faneca 2.5 mil to back up Gallery.

    ***

    BCZ: I know that Faneca plays LG (like Gallery).

    I’d be willing to pay him $4 million to start at RG instead. plus Gallery had multiple injuries last year, including offseason back surgery!

  123. edward teach Says:

    Two things I agree with; Dan Conners, and the poster that said that maybe Rod Martin being there is more the product of a single game performance.

    Maybe Conners instead of Rod Martin, but I also think Dave Grayson deserves a mention. One of the Raiders’ first true shutdown corners, and a memeber of the AFL’s All-Time team.

  124. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jason Campbell wore #17 for the Redskins.

    I think he’ll wear that in Oakland too

    right between #15 Higgins & #18 Murphy :)

  125. RaiderfanNY Says:

    Greg Townsend definitely belongs on this list.

    Take out Woodson, the most over-rated Raider ever.

    A good case could be made for Sistrunk and Ben Davidson, but McGlockton would have to come out for one of them. Tough call.

    The rest of the list is hard to touch. Boy, do I miss Rod Martin. What a player. No one ran to his side. He would drop the ball carrier for a loss before the blocker got to him.

  126. edward teach Says:

    For those of You People that don’t remember or don’t know who Dave Grayson was;

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Grayson

  127. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Take out Woodson, the most over-rated Raider ever.

    ***

    Agreed. C-Wood was a prima donna in Oakland.

    I remember that game against Chicago when he got TRUCKED by Kordell Stewart.

    I haven’t seen that happen to Nnamdi Asomugha … especially by a scramblin’ QB!

  128. RaiderRockstar Says:

    ET: Dave Grayson hasn’t played since 1970 – 40 years ago!

    crap man. are you in your 50’s like Kell ???

    either that or you had an EXCELLENT memory as a child …

  129. RaiderfanNY Says:

    Two things I agree with; Dan Conners, and the poster that said that maybe Rod Martin being there is more the product of a single game performance.

    ***

    Conners was a solid run-stuffer for 5 or 6 years. Rod Martin is an all-time great, one of the best defensive players of his era. There is no comparison. I’m sure Connors himself would agree.

  130. bcz24 Says:

    I would say Woodson would be a coaching issue then, because he has been STELLAR with GB.

  131. Roch R Says:

    Worst QB after Marc Wilson….Vince Evans.

  132. RaiderfanNY Says:

    I would say Woodson would be a coaching issue then, because he has been STELLAR with GB.

    ***

    That is an excellent point. Woodson has been the player with Green Bay that he was supposed to be, but never was, with the Raiders. His production with the Packers says a lot about the Raiders’ recent troubles.

  133. RaiderRockstar Says:

    in all fairness, C-Wood had a few severe cases of turf toe in Oakland that slowed him down a bit and the multiple franchise tags probably p1ssed him off instead of motivated him like Peppers & Haynesworth.

    by the time he got to Green Bay i’m sure he matured some. I haven’t read about him being late to meetings or a clown in the locker room out there

  134. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    ROD MARTIN, THE REAL MVP OF SUPER-BOWL XV !!

  135. RaiderRockstar Says:

    C-Wood was a Raider up until 2005.

    2003-2005 the Raiders were an AWFUL football team.

    Randy Moss was here in 2005 & 2006.

    both players really just dogged it in Oakland to get outta town … despite the money they were making

  136. edward teach Says:

    Rockstar,

    I saw my first Raider game when I was very young, and I thought it was the coolest thing I’d ever seen. Those Raider teams would knock your head off, and played and acted differently than everybody else.

    They were the only game in town before the A’s got there in 1968, and they were good, so it was pretty easy to get into your blood.

    There are times when I wish I could get it out, like when they moved to LA. I tried really hard to not root for them down there (if you’re from NorCal, this doesn’t need to be explained), but ended up capitulating because I had to root for somebody and it sure as hell wasn’t going to be the Niners.

    Anyway, to answer your question, both. I started early but I’m still an old guy.

  137. RaiderRockstar Says:

    ET: thats awesome bro

    I’ll turn 27 years old tomorrow

    maybe i’ll start calling you “pops”

    LOL

  138. 30 year raider Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 5:58 am

    Cards got Faneca for only $2.5 million!

    Packers signed undrafted NT Aleric Mullins!

    not sure why the Raiders weren’t all over these dudes?

    and if Ciron Black REALLY IS still available (Steelers reports were inaccurate?) then go get him today!
    ########################################

    PLEASE no more lazy fat underachievers from LSU.. PLEASE WE WILL PASS!!

  139. edward teach Says:

    Happy Birthday, Rockstar!

  140. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    This is BS man!!!! I hate these all time Raider polls.

    How could you leave off DeAngelo Hall one of the all time lock down great corners in Raider history?

  141. 30 year raider Says:

    Man why is stuart schweigert not on somenones list…i mean this gut was a beast…lol

  142. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    by the time he got to Green Bay i’m sure he matured some. I haven’t read about him being late to meetings or a clown in the locker room out there

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Still going on. Mainly little practice effort.

  143. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Chester McClockton???? He wouldn’t make my top 30 list!

  144. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    I started getting into the Raiders back in the late 80s-90s. My best all time athlete, NFL player and running back of all time Bo Vincent Jackson was one of the most exciting players I ever watched. His speed and power was crazy man! He could do it all.

    I had such a man crush on the guy. He was one bad @$$ player. : )

    This team was so intimidating wearing silver and all black. Some guys even had on the visors so you could not see their eyes. They would hit guys knock em out and they were always moving the chains. Vertical run vertical pass.

  145. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Chester McClockton took to many breaks but I guess if I had to carry his weight and take on double teams every play I would be as well.

    I hear his knees are really in bad shape now a days. He is coaching somewhere but had physical pain for years in his knees and joints.

  146. 30 year raider Says:

    i would put odis mckinney mike davis and even jack squirek ahead of chester the molester

  147. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Happy Birthday RaiderRockstar!!

  148. Dakota Says:

    I would put Kurt Morrison on that list…lead the team in tackles 5 straight years…no other Raider has done that.

  149. RaiderRockstar Says:

    thanks ET & Exla!

  150. Dakota Says:

    Happy Birthday RR!!!!

  151. Dakota Says:

    I am just kidding about Kurt by the way….

  152. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Kirk Morrison was a beast in Oakland.

    good luck in Jax!

  153. RaiderRockstar Says:

    thanks Dakota.

    it’s not until tomorrow fellas :)

    for my b-day I want Al Davis to get John Henderson!

    PLAYOFFS!?!

  154. Raider J Says:

    stoopidmike Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
    Anthony Smith too had some great years
    _______________________________________

    Agreed. Too bad he retired early due to his case of full blown “Fine Wife-itis.” He married Denise Matthews aka Vanity, left football then divorced soon after.

  155. jhill Says:

    I’ll turn 27 years old tomorrow

    ——————————————————-

    Shoulda known you were one of those young whipper snappers!

  156. jhill Says:

    Not quite sure how the all time clearer outter James THE Jett didn’t make the list ????

  157. Dakota Says:

    Goooo Lakers!

    Gotta run…see you later

  158. Stabler76 Says:

    C. Woodson stays for the simple fact that he was the guy who knocked the ball out of Brady’s hand on a corner blitz in the Tuck Rule game.
    And he could tackle and force fumbles.

    Otis Sistrunk — University of Mars– needs to be on this list.

    —————–
    Couple of guys who joined too late to be on the list

    Rod Woodson
    Ronnie Lott

  159. RaiderRockstar Says:

    30YR: Ciron Black will be a great guard in the NFL.

    4 year starter at LSU. complete mauler!

    isn’t that athletic and doesn’t have the best feet, but I’d plug him in at RG and watch him dominate.

    underachiever? how so?

    Langston Walker looked pretty good at LG last year. everybody thought he was too big, fat, slow and unathletic too!

    We need somebody to pave the way for McBush on the right side. that ain’t Cooper Carlisle

  160. jhill Says:

    Adam_Schefter Toughest out in sports is Lakers at home in Game 5’s of a best-of-7 series: including last night, Lakers now 18-0 in those games.

  161. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Shoulda known you were one of those young whipper snappers!

    ***

    yeah, thats right old man. Zach Miller has great blocking skills. better get your eyes checked!

    haha. j/k :)

  162. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Gasol won that game last night…

    plus it didn’t help that the Thunder were like 0 for 20 in thier first WIDE OPEN uncontested shots.

    they gave the game away

  163. jhill Says:

    Langston Walker looked pretty good at LG last year. everybody thought he was too big, fat, slow and unathletic too!

    ——————————————————-

    Far from unathletic. Played LT for Buffalo for a while. Not even in the same conversation as Ciron Black.

    I was with you on Ciron Black prior to the draft young man. But with what we did in the draft, I really like Bruce Campbell at RG and Langston Walker backing up both OG positions.

    I go ahead and plug Veldheer in at LT now and help him out the way we helped out Super Mario so much. Barnes at RT.

    LT – Veldheer
    LG – Gallery/Walker
    C – Satele
    RG – Campbell
    RT – Barnes

  164. jhill Says:

    lol RRS …

    I’m stubborn man. Been squinting at the fine print for a while.

  165. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Weren’t WIDE OPEN, RRS. The Lakers came out with a stifling, physical defense. And Bynum was as solid as Gasol.

    Isn’t your bday tomorrow?

  166. jhill Says:

    Gasol won that game last night…

    ——————————————————-

    And it’s about damn time!

    Ibaka ???

    Jeff Green ???

    Collison ?!?!?!?!?

    But what really won the game for us was PJ finally waking the fugg up and putting Kobe on Westbrook. PJs loyalty to D Fish almost got us knocked out in the first round!

  167. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Far from unathletic. Played LT for Buffalo for a while. Not even in the same conversation as Ciron Black.

    ***

    Jhill: I’m sorry. I meant in the zbs. Bills ran a power blocking scheme

    thats not important though.

    so you think Veldy might start at LT from Day 1 over Mario Henderson? that might be interesting!

  168. jhill Says:

    the Thunder were like 0 for 20 in thier first WIDE OPEN uncontested shots.

    ——————————————————

    Safalosha and guys not named Westbrook and Durant being open was the plan, lol!

  169. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Thunder came out flat from the start. sort of going through the motions. no fire. uninspired basketball

    wouldn’t be surprised to see the Lakers take the next game by 30+

  170. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # jhill Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 7:35 am

    Langston Walker looked pretty good at LG last year. everybody thought he was too big, fat, slow and unathletic too!

    ——————————————————-

    Far from unathletic. Played LT for Buffalo for a while. Not even in the same conversation as Ciron Black.

    I was with you on Ciron Black prior to the draft young man. But with what we did in the draft, I really like Bruce Campbell at RG and Langston Walker backing up both OG positions.

    I go ahead and plug Veldheer in at LT now and help him out the way we helped out Super Mario so much. Barnes at RT.

    LT – Veldheer
    LG – Gallery/Walker
    C – Satele
    RG – Campbell
    RT – Barnes
    ______________________________________________________

    so you would release Mario Henderson?

  171. jhill Says:

    so you think Veldy might start at LT from Day 1 over Mario Henderson?

    ——————————————————-

    I’d like to see him win that job. Everyone talks about the help that Henderson got from Gallery last year. And the TEs and RB staying in to help him the year before that. Dude was not good at all last year, IMO. He has Rosenhaus as an agent and will be looking for a big payday. The Raiders had this guy in to visit and he talked to Al Davis. They must think pretty highly of him, so yeah I’m looking for him to beat out Mario.

  172. jhill Says:

    LOL ….

    No, LMN, not trying to cut Henderson. We need depth.

    Man ….

    I’m going to start calling you and Raider O “scissor man” or something. The 2 of you are always looking to trim the fat, lol.

    I can’t believe you advocate cutting Ike man!

  173. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Cavs/Celtics looks to be an excellent series.

    wouldn’t be surprised to see it go till Game 7

    especially if LeBron James keeps acting like a baby because of the scratch on his elbow …

    Hawks/Bucks will probably get swept by the Magic too!

    Hope Dungver gets spanked tonight :)

  174. 30 year raider Says:

    rockstar….

    if black was any good he would have been picked up already…i would rather us go after the guy who was banging his sister…tony washington has much more upside than a fat lazy underachiever from that retarded azz school LSU

  175. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Cut Jon Condo!

  176. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I can’t believe you advocate cutting Ike man!

    ***

    I know. Ekejiuba is an excellent special teams player

    it’s not his fault Al Davis overpaid him :)

  177. 30 year raider Says:

    alex parsons has an excellent shot at beating out cooper carlisle anyways… solid technician for THE MEN OF TROY the last 2 years…

  178. Raider O Says:

    Happy BirthDay RR!!!!

  179. jhill Says:

    Adam_Schefter Hard to imagine, but JaMarcus Russell still is only 24 years old. He still has lots of potential and lots of growing up to do.

    ——————————————————

    3 years younger than you RRS ????

    Side note: Wasn’t Marc Sanchez 24 when he got drafted? I thought that beard was kinda thick! How the hell are you 24 years old coming out of USC with more eligibility remaining, lol.

  180. RaiderRockstar Says:

    30YR: please explain how Ciron Black was an underachiever …

    tony washington is a tackle and we already drafted Veldheer & Campbell to compete with Henderson & Barnes for those spots.

  181. Raider O Says:

    Trim the Fat!!!!! lol

  182. jhill Says:

    Wassup O!

  183. RaiderRockstar Says:

    alex parsons has an excellent shot at beating out cooper carlisle anyways… solid technician for THE MEN OF TROY the last 2 years…

    ***

    fair enough. never seen Parsons play :)

  184. Raider O Says:

    We should cut Ekejiuba, Wailliams, baby Howie, Eugene, Pears, and Morris!
    Trim the Fat!!

  185. RaiderRockstar Says:

    thanks O!

    Jhill: i’m sure there will be a few OC’s or QB Coaches who think they can fix Russell …

    the Bucs, Cowboys & Seahawks all thought they could fix Ryan Leaf!

    if Hackett, Tollner & Jackson can’t? I don’t think anybody can

  186. bcz24 Says:

    I think Cable really wants to move Campbell inside to Guard. I wanna move Campbell to DT… lol cuz we are the Raiders and we always draft people and make them play the wrong position…

    JRuss- olineman, made him play QB
    DMAC- WR, made him play RB
    DHB- waterboy- made him play wr

  187. 30 year raider Says:

    rockstar—

    he did not get picked within the first 255 picks!!!!
    he was a 2nd or 3rd rd projection but because he kept eating and not working out his weight has balloned to over 360lbs… i told u already alex parsons would run circles around him…please no more fat lazy underachievers from LSU… WE WILL PASS

  188. vegas raider Says:

    Did we release Jamarcus yet?

  189. RaiderRockstar Says:

    camp fodder and/or roster cuts:

    WR Trent Guy, Louisville
    DE Alex Daniels, Cincinnati
    LB Brashton Satele, Hawaii

    WR Shaun Bodiford
    QB Kyle Boller
    SS Jerome Boyd
    DL Chris Cooper
    DT William Joseph
    FS Hiram Eugene
    WR Yamon Figurs
    WR Jonathan Holland
    LB Thomas Howard
    WR Paul Hubbard
    FB Luke Lawton
    FB Marcel Reece
    WR Nick Miller
    LB David Nixon
    LB Slade Norris
    OT Erik Pears
    OG Brandon Rodd
    QB JaMarcus Russell (if he refuses a paycut)
    WR Todd Watkins
    LB Sam Williams

  190. Raider O Says:

    Jhill,

    Rod Woodson: the Raiders needed a thumper LB, and they got one!!! McClain!!

    Trim the Fst, and Add DT J Henderson!!!

  191. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 7:50 am

    Cut Jon Condo!
    ________________________________________________________

    you are sick..

  192. bcz24 Says:

    To be fair Hue Jackson hasnt had a chance to fix JaBling. Imo ANY team can “fix” him if they get him to WANT to play.

  193. RaiderRockstar Says:

    53 man roster – as of today

    QB: Campbell, Gradkowski, Russell/Frye
    RB: McFadden, Bush, Cartwright/Anderson
    FB: Tonga, Moline
    WR: Heyward-Bey, Murphy, Schilens, Higgins, Ford
    TE: Miller, Myers, Stewart
    OT: Henderson, Barnes, Veldheer, Campbell
    OG: Gallery, Carlisle, Walker, Parsons
    C: Satele, Morris
    DE: Shaughnessy, Houston, Richardson, Gunheim
    DT: Seymour, Kelly, Bryant, Heard
    LB: Scott, Wimbley, Groves, Brown, McClain, Goethel
    CB: Asomugha, Johnson, Routt, McFadden, Ware
    S: Huff, Branch, Mitchell, Brown
    ST: Janikowski, Lechler, Condo, Ekejiuba

  194. 30 year raider Says:

    I was hoping we would have picked up jeff byers but pete signed pretty much all the undrafted guys from so cal…he might end up starting for seattle this year..

  195. jhill Says:

    the Bucs, Cowboys & Seahawks all thought they could fix Ryan Leaf!

    ——————————————————

    Good point.

  196. RaiderRockstar Says:

    To be fair Hue Jackson hasnt had a chance to fix JaBling.

    ***

    Hue Jackson was hired on 01/26 (3 months ago)

    3 months isn’t enough time to evaluate JaWalrus ???

  197. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    It was looking gloomy the week before the draft. But just look what Ol Al has pulled out of his hat. Hope, baby! Al did the reasonable and attacked some of the team’s biggest problem last weekend. Will every move solve our problems? Perhaps not. But just getting better at run D, and playing a well prepped QB behind an improving line should make the season watchable!

  198. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trim the fat!

    Cut Condo, Morris, Ekejiuba, Williams, Norris, Nixon, Sanjay Lal, Frye, Stewart, Carlisle, and DMAC!

  199. maddenraiderfan Says:

    Man, I gotta say, that is a beautiful 53 man roster

  200. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # jhill Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 7:47 am

    LOL ….

    No, LMN, not trying to cut Henderson. We need depth.

    Man ….

    I’m going to start calling you and Raider O “scissor man” or something. The 2 of you are always looking to trim the fat, lol.

    I can’t believe you advocate cutting Ike man!
    _______________________________________________________

    I feel much more better now, Henderson needs to stay, but if Veldheer should be LT, Super Mario should be RT, not Barnes, he should be cut if any of the o-line guys…

  201. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Keep Sanjay Lal! He designed that crossing rout where JLH and Murphy crashed and fell down. what a beaut!

  202. RaiderRockstar Says:

    BSJ: that hasn’t been said as often as it needs to …

    cut Sanjay Lal & Fassel Jr!

    maybe even Kelly Skipper ?

  203. RaiderTW Says:

    RR,
    Happy Bday(tommorrow) I got you a whang dang sweet poontang crossbow for you to take to the Podunk Tea Bagger Party!Would that be in GlennBeckistan? But you MUST shoot it at anyone with a sign that has the words:
    fashism or soshulism
    and of course you have to put an arrow thru Glenn Beck!

    Drop McGlockton & replace him with Ben Davidson!!!

  204. vegas raider Says:

    NFL minimum is like $600K

    Last year Jamarcus made $16 million.

    He is looking at a 95% pay-cut!! LMAO

  205. RaiderRockstar Says:

    look and the youth & potential we’ve got at WR:

    Heyward-Bey, Murphy, Schilens, Higgins, Ford

    is Sanjay Lal the guy to coach up these players?

    no!

    give the job to Ted Tollner and give Lal a quality control position

    Tyrone Willingham for RB Coach!

  206. La Milicia Negra Says:

    BSJ…

    Trim the fat!

    Cut Morris, Ekejiuba, Norris, Nixon, Sanjay Lal, Stewart, Carlisle…

    but the rest should stay..

  207. Raider O Says:

    Fat*

    LDE: Houston 6′3 305 & runs a sub 4.85.
    DT: Seymour 6′6 310
    DT: TK 6′6 310
    RDE: Matt S 6′5 275, and runs 4.7

    WLB: T Scott 6′5 255, and runs a 4.6
    ILB: McClain 6′3 254 & runs 4.6+
    SLB: Wimbley 6′3 250 & runs a 4.5

    CB: Nnamdi 6′2 210 and runs a 4.4
    CB: CJ 6′1 200 and runs a sub 4.3+
    SS: Branch 6′ 207 and runs a 4.37
    FS: Huff 6′1 205 and runs sub 4.4

    We have a big, fast, and talented defense. We have 5 1st RDers, and 4 2nd RDers.

  208. RaiderRockstar Says:

    thanks TW!

    LOL

  209. vegas raider Says:

    Anyone else see this stat on NFLN last night?

    Among all players who started at least one game last year, the round with the most starters was round 1. Next on the list was undrafted players, which I thought was remarkable.

    And more 3rd rounders started than 2nd rounders, last year.

    Poing being, undrafted guys are just as good as guys drafted in round 2 and beyond.

  210. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Bears traded for SS Chris Harris (Panthers) yesterday.

    we should have traded them Mike Mitchell for next year’s 1st rounder!

    dang it!

    you know how bad they wanted MM34 on draft day and that was before we knew what a stud SS Tyvon Branch was :)

  211. Raider J Says:

    The Real Hatin’Raider Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 11:23 pm

    Give Al Davis the pro bowl roster: 5-11.

    Our problem is organizational, not personnel.
    ____________________________
    -The Raiders were AFC champs last time they had a pro bowl QB.

    -The major problem with the organization in the recent past was personnel selection and cost.

    “One of the things that has detoured us a little bit is some of the spending we have done,” Cable said last week in Orlando. “It didn’t work.”

    This offseason shows dedication to professionalism over athleticism for a change.
    You improve the organization by improving the quality of the personnel.

    8-8 or 9-7
    …in a transitional season with a young team ain’t bad

  212. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    I like the Roster a lot, but I would add Reece to RBs. He is 6′3 240 and he played both WR & RB at college. He runs a 4.44!

  213. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Poing being, undrafted guys are just as good as guys drafted in round 2 and beyond.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Um, each year 32 players get drafted in each round. 200+ go to camp as undrafted FAs. Thus, more starters than rounds 2-7. Simple statistics. I think I proved that.

  214. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Mark Schlereth said on NFL Live last night that Jason Campbell is “in a very good situation” in Oakland.

    surprised to hear him say that.

    Trey Wingo asked him if the rookie o-liners could protect him here and he said “well, yeah. he didn’t have an O-Line in Washington either and still got the job done”

    strange to hear a donk homer say something like this about the Raiders!

  215. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Stop hating on Mike Mitchell! He is far better than Derrick Gibson. Simply no comparison. I think we have proved that.

  216. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I like the Roster a lot, but I would add Reece to RBs.

    ***

    O: you think Reece might beat Cartwright & Anderson out of a roster spot ???

  217. edward teach Says:

    I wouldn’t be shocked if Kyle Boller made the team.

    Hue was his position coach last year, so he probably wouldn’t be here if someone didn’t think he could fit. They’re familiar with one another, and Boller probably already knows the terminology Jackson’s going to use.

  218. Raider O Says:

    MM will be better than Huff at S!! Print that!!

  219. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Stop hating on Mike Mitchell!

    ***

    you wouldn’t trade him for a 1st rounder, when we’ve got Huff & Branch at safety ???

    come on BSJ. let’s be lucid for one second here …

  220. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Cut Condo and Gunheim!

  221. bcz24 Says:

    Rolando is gonna wear #55 right? Cant wait to get my official authentic jersey. First one since I bought a Tim Brown jersey in the 90’s. I am actually excited this year!

  222. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    He can compete, but I’m not sure if he is better than the other 2. Let the 3 compete for the last RD spot.

  223. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Lucid readers will realize there is not even a remote chance of getting a 1st round pick for MM.

    But JLH and Mike Huff!

  224. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Package JLH, Huff, Condo, Gunheim, DMAC and Ekejiuba for a 2011 first rounder!

  225. vegas raider Says:

    BSJ,

    The only way your statistic would hold up is if of those 200+ guys you say that get invited to camp, 32 of them each year make rosters around the league.

    That’s one per team. We had 2 last year (Nick Miller and Bryant).

    Makes it a little more comparable.

  226. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Andre Anderson rushed for 1,016 yards & 8 TD’s last year.

    keep him over Cartwright & Reece!

    nobody from Tulane was drafted last week …

  227. Raider O Says:

    Trade JLH and Huff for a beefy/strong DT!

  228. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 8:02 am
    To be fair Hue Jackson hasnt had a chance to fix JaBling.

    ***

    Hue Jackson was hired on 01/26 (3 months ago)

    3 months isn’t enough time to evaluate JaWalrus ???
    —————————————————
    Jackson studied him last year with Baltimore. Probably views JaLoser as a waste.

  229. Raider O Says:

    Trade JLH & Huff for a 2011 1st RD pick!!!

  230. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Vegas,

    200+ for 32 spots is better odds than:

    32 2nd rounders for 32 spots

  231. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Package JLH, Huff, Condo, Gunheim, DMAC and Ekejiuba for a 2011 first rounder!

    ***

    NO!

    Package Nick Miller, Hiram Eugene, Marcel Reece, Erik Pears, Chris Cooper and David Nixon for a 2011 seventh rounder!

  232. Frank YoooooooLLL Says:

    I hope Jabubbagump takes a pay cut and stays, some other team will pick him up and work with him and pretty soon that sob will come back to haunt us, i just know it. Russells problem is he is too damn imature. what the hell else did we expect from a 12 year old with fur coats and diamonds with 30 mil in the bank? Then the next problem is his fat azz, he may be a natural slob, and if thats the case forget about it.

  233. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Trade JLH and Huff for a beefy/strong DT!

    ***

    maybe for Albert Haynesworth, Dan Williams or Terrence Cody on draft day …

    but not now. go get John Henderson for free!

    PLAYOFFS!?!

  234. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Stay out of the first rnd

  235. jhill Says:

    he should be cut if any of the o-line guys…

    ——————————————————-

    lol, LMN ..

    There you go again.

  236. YoungAmerican Says:

    # Raider O Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 8:17 am

    RR,

    I like the Roster a lot, but I would add Reece to RBs. He is 6′3 240 and he played both WR & RB at college. He runs a 4.44!

    ——————–

    Look at the depth chart on the Raiders website. He’s already listed at RB.

  237. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Fear the Double Nickle in ‘10

  238. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Gunheim and Condo are holding this team back.

  239. Raider O Says:

    YA,

    I know, but wasn’t he listed as a RB las year?

  240. RaiderRockstar Says:

    WR Trent Guy, Louisville
    WR Shaun Bodiford
    WR Yamon Figurs
    WR Jonathan Holland
    WR Paul Hubbard
    WR Todd Watkins

    trade these guys for BSJ’s preppie sweater vest!

  241. bcz24 Says:

    April 28th, 2010 at 8:02 am
    To be fair Hue Jackson hasnt had a chance to fix JaBling.

    ***

    Hue Jackson was hired on 01/26 (3 months ago)

    3 months isn’t enough time to evaluate JaWalrus ???
    —————————————————

    I didnt say anything about evaluating him, which is clear by the fact that you copied and pasted exactly what I said. NO 3 months is NOT enough time to fix a disaster of the magnitude of Russell. This post was not intended to say Russell should stay, it was intended as a defense to Hue Jackson, who should not be associated with JRuss at all. Thats it.

  242. MistaBrown Says:

    McGlockton has NO business on that list & you guys leave of John Matuszak? Twoz!
    C’mon
    ______

    # stoopidmike Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    Sweep The Leg. Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
    Here is some more for the list,

    George Atkinson

    Ben Davidson

    Matt Millen

    Phil Vilapiano

    Reggie Kinlaw

    Greg Townsend

    James Trapp (just kidding)

    Eddie Anderson

    Greg Biekert

    Terry McDaniel

    Otis Sistrunk
    ============================
    No doubt terry mcdaniel,so underrated…Also lionel washington and albert lewis

  243. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Hue had enought time to eveluate JRuss and determine he was beyond repair. A total loss. Move on.

    Next he had better use the same process to evaluate the fumbling fraud from Arkansas.

  244. MistaBrown Says:

    off*

  245. Norco Bob Says:

    Couple quick hits,..Im hoping Campbell goes with number 1, like Warren Moon,..also just got my tix for tomorrow night, FU Red Wings…lastly, Maddenraider, been reading some of his posts from late at night, mid day, all day,..the little guy needs help, hes lost it,..he cant even keep track at what hes angry about anymore,…Al Davis, Christians,..us fans…look MR, I know you suffer from little mans desease, but try and get over it,…lifes great, enjoy it, no good at all to spend your days mad…my offer is always open, free ticket in row 1 for you including tailgate…I promise you little buddy, no harm comes your way…Go Sharks!

  246. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 8:43 am
    McGlockton has NO business on that list & you guys leave of John Matuszak? Twoz!
    C’mon
    ______

    And why wasn’t Fred Wakefield on the list?

  247. jhill Says:

    trade these guys for BSJ’s preppie sweater vest!

    ——————————————————

    Is that really the style these days?

    LMFAO!

    LeBron and his tight as LB sweater was embarrasing!

  248. Norco Bob Says:

    Oh man, one more thing, wait til you see my costume for the Seahawks Halloween game,…see you on SportsCenter!

  249. Raider O Says:

    “preppie” Thank you Vegas!!!

    “You People” thank you Pete!!

    I love it!!!!!!

  250. RaiderRockstar Says:

    BCZ: 3 months is plenty of time to determine whether or not JaMarcus Russell is even worth trying to fix.

    he has a strong arm. that’s why we drafted him

    what else does he have? NADA

    I think Cable, Hue Jax, Hackett & Tollner all came to the general consensus that Russell isn’t salvageable. Then went up to Al Davis and told him as much. “can’t win with ‘em”

    Davis swallowed his pride once, giving Allen/Shanny a phone call. Is about to swallow his pride again by dumping Russell (who he defended in the Kiffin presser) …

  251. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Go Red Wings!

  252. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Raider O Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 8:48 am
    “preppie” Thank you Vegas!!!

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    That was the hillbilly beancounter, Mustafa!

  253. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hue had enought time to eveluate JRuss and determine he was beyond repair. A total loss. Move on.

    ***

    BSJ beat me to the punch here …

    “Is that really the style these days?”

    Jhill: I don’t know. Raider O & BSJ seem to know more about “style” than me. I’m a Podunker, remember?

    gimme some camo and a bag o beef jerky. i’ll be alright

  254. Norco Bob Says:

    Dang Bo, was feelin bad for you due to annual Buckeye game,..now wont anymore.

  255. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 8:47 am
    Oh man, one more thing, wait til you see my costume for the Seahawks Halloween game,…see you on SportsCenter!

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Are you going as Norco Bob? I don’t want us to both show up with the same costume…

  256. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 8:51 am
    Dang Bo, was feelin bad for you due to annual Buckeye game,..now wont anymore.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    I miss the love already.

  257. Raider O Says:

    Ghetto preppie, car industry killer, and union lover,

    You sure it’s not Vegas?

  258. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I guess nobody will be asked to wear a Walrus outfit in the black hole this year.

    they’d get mugged.

    anybody willing to dress as a matador in honor of Samson Satele ???

  259. Lynn from Snot Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 8:47 am

    Oh man, one more thing, wait til you see my costume for the Seahawks Halloween game,…see you on SportsCenter!
    —————————————————-
    Let me guess you’ll be in a no. 2 jersey.

  260. bcz24 Says:

    Dude you are TOTALLY missing the point of what I was saying. You said Jackson COULDNT fix Russell. I said Jackson didnt have a chance to fix him. Nothing about evaluating his talent or inferred judgement that they decided he wasnt worth it or anything else. Jackson should not be included in a discussion of people who couldnt fix Jabusted. Jackson never coached Russell. 3 months as the OC during the offseason does not count as “coaching”

  261. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Take a look at the 2010 OSU recruiting class Tressel put together:

    http://i.ytimg.com/vi/nHpUMnRv1MU/0.jpg

  262. RaiderRockstar Says:

    anybody willing to dress as a matador in honor of Samson Satele ???

    ***

    Mario Henderson. sorry

    Samson Satele can be impersonated by getting dumped on your can

  263. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Who is the Raider GM again?

  264. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jackson never coached Russell. 3 months as the OC during the offseason does not count as “coaching”

    ***

    How do you know ???

    pure speculation. thats like saying Darren McFadden got 3 more chicks pregnant

    no proof!

  265. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    I’m not big on fashion. I buy a lot of my clothes from target & outlets. I’m cheap, but I make it look great!
    I’m the Lizard King!!

  266. Lynn from Snot Says:

    # Raider O Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 8:59 am

    RR,

    I’m not big on fashion. I buy a lot of my clothes from target & outlets. I’m cheap, but I make it look great!
    I’m the Lizard King!!
    ==========================================
    That’s funny I get my clothes at the Colosseum D lot.

  267. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’m the Lizard King!!

    ***

    is that the little critter on Sobe bottles or Geico commercials ???

  268. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    I would take John Henderson in a heart beat but I would not be surprised if Haynesworth ended up on our team. But if he has an attitude like everyone says he does I can’t see Cable or Al trading or dealing with this guy, way to much drama the last three years.
    ——————————————————
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 8:32 am
    Trade JLH and Huff for a beefy/strong DT!

    ***

    maybe for Albert Haynesworth, Dan Williams or Terrence Cody on draft day …

    but not now. go get John Henderson for free!

    PLAYOFFS!?!

  269. SD_Raider_619 Says:

    I noticed Jerry finally took down Morrison picture of his top banner. Who should replace him??? I say McClain!!!! Jerry make a post so you can do a survey n see who the Raider Nations wants up there hahahaha

  270. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    SD_Raider_619 Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 9:04 am
    I noticed Jerry finally took down Morrison picture of his top banner. Who should replace him??? I say McClain!!!! Jerry make a post so you can do a survey n see who the Raider Nations wants up there hahahaha

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    My vote: Zach Miller

  271. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I noticed Jerry finally took down Morrison picture of his top banner. Who should replace him???

    ***

    I’m torn. Either Huff or Higgins!

  272. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Heyward-Bey would be fine too!

  273. Lynn from Snot Says:

    It will be Nnamdi

  274. Raider O Says:

    There is nothing little about the Lizard King! He is big as life, and sharp as a knife. He is … The Lizard King!!!!

  275. SD_Raider_619 Says:

    Higgins??? why, i can understand Huff cause he is going to be a beast this year

  276. SD_Raider_619 Says:

    RaiderRockstar you are good at doing this, take everyone vote for the Jerry’s top banner. I say we put McClain up there

  277. Raider O Says:

    Al Davis!!

  278. RaiderRockstar Says:

    He is … The Lizard King!!!!

    ***

    15 minutes can save you 15 percent or more on car insurance

  279. bank-bank Says:

    Whats happening Great Raider Fans of America.We finally had a grade A draft.I just want to say that its not right that some of us isn’t giving our Nnamdi A.much respect.I say that Nnamdi is the best and I mean the best cornerback in the league.Nnamdi has played for a team that hardly ever puts pressure on the opposing teams quarterbacks leaving him to cover longer always.He always makes the Pro Bowl from one of the worst teams soon to be better.He’s hardly ever thrown against by the opposing teams quarterbacks.I mean whats an All-Pro Raider has to do around here to get some respect from all our fans because he deserves it.Not the fans that thinks that D.Revis is better.No way Revis is better than Nnamdi.Revis plays for a blitz happy Quarterback pressuring defense and a better team at the moment.Nnamdi doesn’t have that luxury yet.Plus,Nnamdi has been All-Pro for years.Revis needs to keep it up a while longer.

  280. RaiderRockstar Says:

    take everyone vote for the Jerry’s top banner.

    ***

    SD: I vote for an animated picture of Tom Cable punching Randy Hanson (breaking his jaw)

  281. Raider O Says:

    If it has to be a player, I say Nnamdi or Z Miller!!

  282. RaiderRockstar Says:

    perhaps a photo of John Herrerra pouring GM Danny Southwick his morning coffee!

  283. SD_Raider_619 Says:

    how about an animated picture of Cable punching Al Davis during the draft so he didnt make any picks in the first round n second round hahahaha

  284. Raider O Says:

    LMAO RR. I do like that Lizard.

  285. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raider & BSJ:

    according to Jhill, Zach Miller can’t block the wind

    why would you want him on the banner ???

    better put Brandon Myers up there if you want a TE who can catch & block!

  286. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Raiderettes would work

  287. RaiderRockstar Says:

    how about Tommy “pants on the ground” Kelly for a blog banner ???

  288. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Zach Miller obviously couldn’t block JaMarcus from the cookie jar!

  289. Raider O Says:

    Z Miller can’t block?!?
    He may not be the best blocking TE in the NFL, but be does a good job, and be catches everything. He also knows how to get open and find open areas in the defense.

    He is a great player!! Get over it!!

  290. Lynn from Snot Says:

    http://oaklandraiders.stores.yahoo.net/

    On sale now!!!

  291. Lynn from Snot Says:

    http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/oaklandraiders_2099_23098345

  292. RaiderRockstar Says:

    O: I like Zach Miller. you’re preaching to the choir

    Jhill said that Zach Miller can’t block a fly from his nostrils

    :)

  293. RaiderRockstar Says:

    http://www.michaeltyler.co.uk/uploaded_images/big-walrus-737134.jpg

    personal trainer for hire!

  294. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Lynn from Snot Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 9:19 am
    http://oaklandraiders.stores.yahoo.net/

    On sale now!!!

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    I’m holding out for my Southwick jersey.

  295. Raider O Says:

    Where is Jhill?

  296. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’m holding out for my Southwick jersey.

    ***

    the Danchise is our new GM.

    do GM’s make jerseys ???

  297. Toyz Says:

    my vote is for the 3 best players Nnamdi,Sea Bass,and Shane

  298. RaiderRockstar Says:

    it would be great to get a group photo of Lechler, Janikowski, Condo, Ekejiuba & Williams.

    probably the best 5 special teamers on 1 team this league has ever seen!

    might also want to get the pigeon’s agent on the phone.

  299. Raider O Says:

    I have to go study. Later Gents.

    Great Draft!!
    Add J Henderson!!
    Legalize It!!!

  300. RaiderRockstar Says:

    later O!

  301. Thec07 Says:

    Out with one degenerate, in with another. what up NATION?

  302. Thec07 Says:

    If you guys didnt hear the quick interview with chros Cooley talking about Jason, you should listemn to it.

  303. Thec07 Says:

    He should put Jason Campbell on hos banner, Either that or Louis Murphy. I am big on stand up guys.
    Maybe he should just put all the stand up guys on the banner…

  304. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Alan Faneca isn’t going to the Cardinals to sit on the bench.

    He should be immediateley inserted at left guard, which means someone will lose a starting job and a roster spot in Arizona. Deuce Lutui, who could get displaced on the right side by Reggie Wells, is the man to watch.

    -PFT

    Deuce Lutui, anyone ???

  305. Thec07 Says:

    RR, whats up with you boy Henderson? When are we going to sign the washington Nt, that big fat guy, whats his name again???

  306. RaiderRockstar Says:

    If Raiders QB JaMarcus Russell got cut, SI’s Peter King thinks Philadelphia could be a landing spot because scouting director Phil Savage would recommend him.

    -PFT

    ***

    LOL. JaWalrus on the bench behind Kolb, Vick & Kafka?

    doubtful. I think he’d have a tough time fighting off Keith Null, Mike Reilly & Thaddeus Lewis for a 3rd string job in St. Louis behind Bradford & Feeley!

  307. jhill Says:

    He may not be the best blocking TE in the NFL, but be does a good job, and be catches everything. He also knows how to get open and find open areas in the defense.

    ——————————————————-

    Exactly!

    Miller needs to work on his blocking. If he doesn’t get better soon, I fear he’ll end up on O’s cutting board.

  308. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Thec: I’d take Henderson or Haynesworth in a heartbeat …

    the Raiders don’t appear to be interested, or if they are NOBODY is reporting it

    Giants, Falcons & Chiefs have expressed the most interest in big John at this point.

    Shanny & Allen say Fat Albert isn’t on the trade block (liars). Titans were willing to trade for him, but the asking price was too high. who knows what it was?

  309. Raider75 Says:

    I love reading stuff like this.

    From University of Texas Bio on Lamarr Houston

    Fourth-year defensive lineman who is in his second year as a starting defensive tackle after playing his first two years at defensive end … has played in 49 career games, starting 32, at defensive tackle (20) and defensive end (12) … notched 160 tackles, 14 sacks, 41 TFL, 65 pressures, 13 PBD, two fumble recoveries and a forced fumble for his career … started 13 games at defensive tackle in 2009 … a second-team All-Big 12 selection … compiled 58 tackles, 20 TFL, seven sacks, 28 pressures, four PBD and two fumble recoveries … despite battling a foot injury for much of the season, appeared in 12 games, starting eight, at defensive tackle and on special teams in 2008 … posted 22 tackles, 1.5 sacks, seven TFL, 11 pressures and five PBD … appeared in all 13 games, starting 11, in 2007 … tabbed honorable mention All-Big 12 … led the team with 12 TFL and 24 pressures to go along with 66 tackles, 4.5 sacks, four PBD and a forced fumble … saw action in 11 games at defensive end and on special teams as a true freshman … a second-team Academic All-Big 12 selection … a three-time member of UT’s Athletics Director’s Honor Roll.

    Can’t wait to see #99 in action!

  310. jhill Says:

    RRS,

    It would have been really good for you to hear Nnamdi talk about our defense on a couple of the NFL Network shows yesterday.

    He talked about 3-4 elements within the 4-3. He was in studio with Rod Woodson and Warren Sapp, and they talked about all the defensive posibilities and it all starting with the ENDS they have.

    Lamar Houston and Seymour being able to hold the edges is KEY!

    Can’t wait to see this defense.

  311. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Lamar Houston and Seymour being able to hold the edges is KEY!

    ***

    couldn’t agree more.

    who’s gonna hold up the interior D-Line then?

    Kelly & Bryant?

  312. jhill Says:

    Oh …

    They also talked about mixing it up from the single deep safety look to disguise things and try and get the QB to pat the ball one more time.

    And Woodson said cut Russell immediately.

    Sapp said keep him on the roster and develop him.

    Nnamdi said he hopes Russell finally comes out and shows why he was drafted #1.

    Upgrade your package man! You NEED NFL Network!

  313. jhill Says:

    I don’t know RRS … They didn’t even talk about the middle of the D other than RAVE about McClain being a down hill LB. Rod Woodson emphasized us “FINALLY” getting a thumper MLB who can actually tackle. Ouch!

  314. DMAC Says:

    Morning Nation

  315. Raider75 Says:

    Just go to nfl.com to see video of nnamdi.

  316. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jhill: i’m an ignorant podunker

    I’m just curious to know what players they think can stuff a run up the gut (besides McClain)

    if Kelly & Bryant can handle it? fine

    3-4 defense with Joseph at NT can get the job done? fine

    sounds like Jackson & Marshall pretty much have the freedom to do as they please. should be fun to watch – regardless of the outcome

  317. The Big Banana Says:

    And Woodson said cut Russell immediately.

    Sapp said keep him on the roster and develop him.
    ====================================================
    I value Woodson’s opinion 50 times more than Sapp’s. Not that I need anyone’s opinion on the matter. Cut the lazy slob!

  318. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Upgrade your package man! You NEED NFL Network!

    ***

    Jhill: we’re actually thinking about cancelling Dish Network all together & our internet at home

    I’ve heard babies aren’t cheap!

    I might be stuck with work internet access and games shown locally (Chiefs, Rams, etc)

  319. DMAC Says:

    Updating a previous item, the Raiders are reportedly “awaiting the final word” from owner Al Davis before releasing JaMarcus Russell.

    ESPN’s John Clayton suggests Russell may still attend minicamp this weekend, but the Raiders won’t let him practice for fear of injury. Davis famously told former coach Lane Kiffin to “get over” his reluctance to play Russell because the former No. 1 overall pick was a “great player.” Russell’s impending release as possibly the biggest draft bust in NFL history is a tough pill for Davis to swallow.
    Source: ESPN.com

  320. jhill Says:

    3-4 defense with Joseph at NT can get the job done? fine

    ——————————————————-

    We are not going to run a 3-4 defense. Nnamdi was saying that you can run some 3-4 principles out of a 4-3 defense and flat out said we were not switching to the 3-4. Not sure what that means or who will play where. I think you’ll see guys moving around all over the place.

  321. jhill Says:

    Jhill: we’re actually thinking about cancelling Dish Network all together & our internet at home

    I’ve heard babies aren’t cheap!

    ——————————————————-

    That’s unacceptable!

    You’ll be even more of a stat guy, lol.

    $50 bucks a month is not going to help out with the kids man. Keep the cable.

  322. DMAC Says:

    I was reading previous comments of suggesting who should take blace in the banner above. My votes for Eugene getting stiff armed by McGahee.

  323. M Lonetree Says:

    time for the Raiders to take an organizational laxative to get rid of the #2 causing the gut ache.

    if every time you eat at a certain restaurant you end up with dysentery, by all means stop eating at that restaurant.

  324. DMAC Says:

    place

  325. Ryan Says:

    I see Kirk was removed from the banner.

    Jerry,

    Maybe you should put it to a vote on which current player should be on the banner.

    My vote is for Z. Miller.

  326. La Milicia Negra Says:

    #

    # jhill Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 8:32 am

    he should be cut if any of the o-line guys…

    ——————————————————-

    lol, LMN ..

    There you go again.
    ___________________________________________________

    I just never liked barnes, Mario should start over him…

  327. Raider75 Says:

    Dang man… LOL! Just watched the video of Nnamdi, Sapp, and Woodson

    Sapp said keep Russell until the end of camp and see if you can find a suitable trade partner.

    Woodson says C’mon man! Nobody’s gonna trade for Russell

    They all started laughing. INCLUDING NNAMDI!

    Classic!

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d817d54c0/Raiders-report

  328. RaiderRockstar Says:

    $50 bucks a month is not going to help out with the kids man.

    ***

    Jhill: it’s about $100 if you combine internet & cable

    my wife wants to quit her full-time job and stay home with the baby – which I totally respect

    If we can’t afford to do that, we’ll have to start thinking about daycare (which isn’t cheap – especially for a real youngster 6-7 weeks old)

    then there’s diapers, formula, clothes, doctor appts, new furniture for the little one & I’m gonna have to build some sort of storage shed on our property to make room in our 3rd bedroom for the kiddo to stay in

    2nd bedroom is the RAIDERS ROOM. that ain’t going anywhere :)

  329. jhill Says:

    I just can’t get past the irony of us passing on the ultimate HWS guys like Calvin Johnson and Adrian Peterson for Jamarcus Russell.

  330. M Lonetree Says:

    Edward Teach (and others)

    thanks for listings of Dave Grayson, Dan Conners, etc. from the way back when.

    the list of ten best defensive players could’ve started with the “Eleven Angry Men” and worked from there.

  331. jhill Says:

    2nd bedroom is the RAIDERS ROOM. that ain’t going anywhere

    ——————————————————-

    That’s what you think, lol!

    Wait til the kids need a play room.

  332. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Woodson says C’mon man! Nobody’s gonna trade for Russell

    They all started laughing. INCLUDING NNAMDI!

    ***

    anybody surprised N21 didn’t say “JaMarcus is a good player. get over it!” ???

  333. jhill Says:

    RRS,

    Tell your wife to breast feed. Take that $ you save on formula and keep the Cable!

  334. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # La Milicia Negra Says:
    April 27th, 2010 at 8:02 am

    Blackbeard…

    I do recognize that he was elected, but probowl is a popularity test, not actually based on merits…

    when I say he isnt a pro-bowl calliber special teams player its not because I dont believe he was voted to be one, its because i dont think he is GOOD enough to be one…

    and yup he is okay on covering kicks, but he is a liability in the return game, and thats where we need to get better, so we dont start at the 9th each time…
    ______________________________________________________

    I re-post this, because im not sure you saw it the first time…

  335. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tell your wife to breast feed. Take that $ you save on formula and keep the Cable!

    ***

    haha. we’re planning on it

    my wife wants to decorate the baby room in giraffes

    i’m sure glad she didn’t pick walrus’ !!!

  336. RaiderRockstar Says:

    if my wife decided to decorate the baby room in walrus, I would seriously purchase a Russell #2 jersey for $5 on e-bay and hang it in there!

  337. 4evaRaider Says:

    Mad Storks make a nice decoration 2 RRS!

  338. JB Says:

    # Raider75 Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 10:11 am

    Dang man… LOL! Just watched the video of Nnamdi, Sapp, and Woodson

    Sapp said keep Russell until the end of camp and see if you can find a suitable trade partner.

    Woodson says C’mon man! Nobody’s gonna trade for Russell

    They all started laughing. INCLUDING NNAMDI!

    Classic!

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d817d54c0/Raiders-report
    ************************

    Sad but all too true. Like Woodson said, it’s just time to cut your losses and move on. The most telling line was there’s no fools out there that want JaBustus so forget a trade – just a waste of time & effort. Insert Campbell & move forward to winning games.

  339. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’m not sure how much trade value Russell had at the beginning of last year due to his contract. probably very little.

    after getting outplayed by Gradkowski & Frye? none.

    after we traded for Jason Campbell? funny that anybody would even MENTION such a thing!

  340. RaiderRockstar Says:

    maybe i’ll get a pic of Bo Jackson running over Brian Bosworth and see if some place can make that into wallpaper for the baby room?

    or maybe i’ll get a still photo of Brady’s fumble during the “tuck game” to send a message to the youngster: life isn’t fair

    haha

  341. inonewordraider Says:

    I say you put lechler on there, he’s been our MVP last 7 years

  342. JB Says:

    As far as a vote for who should e on the banner representing the Raiders, my vote is for Robert Gallery. He may not have been the OLT we thought he was but he’s going to be our next Pro
    Bowl player. Besides, he looks the part. Come-on guys, give Gallery his due. He definitely makes a difference when he’s in there. We know that from last year when he wasn’t. It really showed.

  343. jhill Says:

    Banner players should be the Wiz, Gallery, and Nnamdi

  344. GaterRaider Says:

    branch for the banner, hes gonna make some moves this season, watch

  345. RaiderRockstar Says:

    from Washington tight end Chris Cooley, who was very happy to see Campbell go — and get a chance to start somewhere else after the Redskins traded for Donovan McNabb.

    “People just like him. I mean, he’s likable,” Cooley told the Washington Post. “Especially after all the hits he took, that guy could have quit after Week 10 and just said, ‘This is retarded, I’m not doing this anymore.’ He just kept getting back up and playing for us.

    “Jason has an excellent opportunity to start for Oakland. That’s what he wanted. That’s what everyone wants for him. Everyone knows he’s just a good dude, that he works his butt off, he’s done everything right here, he deserves it.”

    Posted By: Vittorio Tafur (SF Gate)

  346. inonewordraider Says:

    Sam Williams for the banner

  347. 4evaRaider Says:

    Jason and Bruce will makeeach other better :)

  348. RaiderRockstar Says:

    DAVIE, Fla. (AP) Miami Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland has apologized to former Oklahoma State receiver Dez Bryant for asking whether his mother was ever a prostitute.

    ***

    Danny Southwick would NEVER do this!

  349. 4evaRaider Says:

    oops

  350. M Lonetree Says:

    if sense prevails and a rookie salary cap is instituted by the NFL thereby lessening the potential horrors of top of the draft flame-outs, it can then be assured that JaMare’s-nest place will be for all time the #1 NFL draft bust in history.

    something he can be proud of. the worst of the worst is the best of the best if looked at a certain way.

  351. jhill Says:

    Jason and Bruce will makeeach other better

    ——————————————————

    Just stop it!

    Bruce was NEVER going to be the starting QB for Al Daivs’ Oakland Raiders.

  352. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jason and Bruce will make each other better

    ***

    4eva: so will Ricky and Stevie Brown!

  353. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Why don’t we try Russel at noseguard? We have had the answer in front of us all this time. He was beefing up to play D LIne!!!!

    My man!

  354. inonewordraider Says:

    Luke Lawton putting a punishing block on a would-be tackler for the banner

  355. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    RR – I hate to tell you bro before your B-Day but Jason, Russell and Bruce will make each other better. Russell is not getting traded and he won’t be cut until the get a look at him at camp. Sorry bro, I just know how this team operates.
    ———————————–
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 10:39 am
    Jason and Bruce will make each other better

    ***

    4eva: so will Ricky and Stevie Brown!

  356. 4evaRaider Says:

    Jhill….I will not stop it!

    Bruce will be our starting QB on opening day,imo

  357. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Brashton & Samson Satele are cousins.

    there’s some accountability.

    Darren & Walter McFadden will make each other better too!

  358. inonewordraider Says:

    Russell at the craps table for the banner?

  359. jhill Says:

    4eva,

    No you don’t.

  360. 4evaRaider Says:

    :)

    barring injury Bruce will be our starter,imo

  361. jhill Says:

    4eva,

    Maybe you’ve been deep in your forest somewhere and missed the new that we traded for Jason Campbell.

  362. RaiderRockstar Says:

    This just in from ESPN — “The Oakland Raiders are preparing to release quarterback JaMarcus Russell but have to await the final word to release him from owner Al Davis, according to sources.”

    ***

    I find this hilarious.

    awaiting final word from Al Davis?

    we could be waiting 3 years! haha

    does ANYTHING happen in Oakland without AD’s stamp of approval? no. they are acting like “all that’s left is al’s signature” what a joke.

    we could keep Russell, Campbell, Gradkowski & Frye for a combined $16+ million for all we know. this year is uncapped!

  363. M Lonetree Says:

    It is not hard to imagine opposing DBs becoming unwilling tacklers with pulling guard Bruce Campbell bearing down on them.

  364. DMAC Says:

    A ball boucing off of DHB’s hands for the banner.

  365. JaMarcus Boucher Says:

    # DMAC Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 10:49 am

    A ball boucing off of DHB’s hands for the banner.

    ___________________________________________________

    The Real MaddenRaider has balls bouncing off his chin all the time.

  366. RaiderRockstar Says:

    A ball boucing off of DHB’s hands for the banner.

    ***

    how about DHB’s TD catch against Dallas last year?

    we’ll see a lot more of those this season.

    the Oakland endzone will be known as “the Bey area”!

  367. JaMarcus Boucher Says:

    RMR’s chin is know as “the tea bag area”!

  368. DMAC Says:

    I like that RR!

  369. 4evaRaider Says:

    Well 2 tell you the truth Jhill,I have been deep in my forest.But I am caught up with the current news of the day with our Raiders….

    Last year the redskins had a better D and O than us,and had Portis 4 half a year….

    In his limited time Bruce did more with less.We are already much improved,WR have a year under their belt,O-line will be better,D-line will be better and the offense already accepts Bruce as their leader.Bruce has 3 years with Hackett,Jason has a big fat zero with Hackett….

    For Campbell 2 start he has much catching up 2do,imo

  370. JaMarcus Boucher Says:

    3. Oakland Raiders
    Starter: Jason Campbell
    Challengers: Bruce Gradkowski, JaMarcus Russell, Kyle Boller, Charlie Frye

    The Upshot: When the Raiders wisely traded a 2012 fourth-round pick to Washington for Campbell on Saturday, it showed Al Davis was finally waking up and smelling the coffee in the case of the disappointing Russell. Davis will reportedly release Russell any day now, but given the Raiders owe him $3 million guaranteed this season, I’m not sure the point of whacking him now. There’s time for that at the end of the preseason. Campbell walks in the door as the team’s most accomplished starter, and that’s saying something given the five-year ride he just took in Washington. If I’m new Raiders offensive coordinator Hue Jackson, my depth chart reads Campbell, Gradkowski and Russell, in that order. Boller and Frye look like camp arms only, or maybe the team’s No. 3 if Russell is released.

    Potential For Change: Oakland’s starting quarterback slot has been a revolving door since Rich Gannon left town, but Campbell now gets his turn to end all the instability. He’ll put in the time and the work necessary to earn the job, unlike Russell, who only won it via his contract and draft status. Gradkowski can’t be completely overlooked, but Campbell’s experience makes him the best of three first-round quarterbacks on the roster (Boller in 2003, Campbell in 2005, Russell in 2007).

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/don_banks/04/28/qbs/index.html?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin

  371. Thec07 Says:

    JB Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 10:24 am
    # Raider75 Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 10:11 am

    Dang man… LOL! Just watched the video of Nnamdi, Sapp, and Woodson

    Sapp said keep Russell until the end of camp and see if you can find a suitable trade partner.

    Woodson says C’mon man! Nobody’s gonna trade for Russell

    They all started laughing. INCLUDING NNAMDI!

    Classic!

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d817d54c0/Raiders-report
    ************************

    Sad but all too true. Like Woodson said, it’s just time to cut your losses and move on. The most telling line was there’s no fools out there that want JaBustus so forget a trade – just a waste of time & effort. Insert Campbell & move forward to winning games.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I dont care for warren sapp but he hit it on the head. Like I have been saying for weeks would have a logical draft.

    It is clear to everyone that Mr. Davis is not in control of the raiders draft….

    Other forces are at work…

  372. inonewordraider Says:

    “People just like him. I mean, he’s likable,” Cooley told the Washington Post. “Especially after all the hits he took, that guy could have quit after Week 10 and just said, ‘This is retarded, I’m not doing this anymore.’ He just kept getting back up and playing for us.

    “Jason has an excellent opportunity to start for Oakland. That’s what he wanted. That’s what everyone wants for him. Everyone knows he’s just a good dude, that he works his butt off, he’s done everything right here, he deserves it.”

    Good stuff

  373. 4evaRaider Says:

    Well as I said B4….

    Let the best QB win

    Bring em on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  374. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    Nnamdi for the banner, no doubt!

    I think Al is waiting for Russell to show up at 290 lbs, before he makes a decision on cutting him.

    Although I honestly think, after all the bs by Russell’s agent, they will agree to a paycut before Friday. That agent must realize that Jam is at the end of his line.

  375. Thec07 Says:

    Jason Campbell once he signed became the starting QB….

  376. Thec07 Says:

    we did the right thing like i have been saying weeks ago. we need to get Jason Cambell. we now have a REAL NFL Starting QB, and we got him for a ham sandwich…

  377. 4evaRaider Says:

    I dont think Cable will just give the keys to JC.We did that with #2 and we all know how that turned out.Also Cable said he was told no such thing about being the starter.If JC starts,he gonna have 2 earn it

  378. JaMarcus Boucher Says:

    Did somebody say ham samich?

  379. JaMarcus Boucher Says:

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 11:08 am

    I dont think Cable will just give the keys to JC.We did that with #2 and we all know how that turned out.Also Cable said he was told no such thing about being the starter.If JC starts,he gonna have 2 earn it

    —————————————————-

    Based on his competition, it shouldn’t be too difficult for him.

  380. DMAC Says:

    I got one for the banner…
    Some of you guys won’t aprrove but I’m going w/ DMAC and his break out season.
    http://sportsjunky.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/darren-mcfadden.jpg

  381. Thec07 Says:

    Big diffrence between Jason and JRUSS;

    1. Leadership
    2. Number of starts
    3. Work Ethic
    4. Ability to learn system
    5. Well Liked by teammates
    6. Commitment
    7. Well coached

    Like comparing apples to oranges….

    BTW, Campbell allready has the keys…

  382. Dakota Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 11:03 am
    Jason Campbell once he signed became the starting QB….
    ++++++++++

    Absolutely. Garbagekowski will need to look elsewhere if he wants to start…I suggest the arena league.

  383. RaiderRockstar Says:

    4eva:

    the Redskins went through 5 different RB’s last year (Portis, Cartwright, Betts, Ganther & Mason). They combined for 338 carries, 1260 yards & 6 TD’s. thats 3.72 yards per carry

    the Raiders used 3 RB’s last year (Fargas, Bush, McFadden). They combined for 356 carries, 1437 yards & 7 TD’s. thats 4.03 yards per carry

    the Redskins DID NOT have a better running game than us last year …

  384. JaMarcus Boucher Says:

    # Thec07 Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 11:11 am

    Big diffrence between Jason and JRUSS;

    1. Leadership
    2. Number of starts
    3. Work Ethic
    4. Ability to learn system
    5. Well Liked by teammates
    6. Commitment
    7. Well coached

    Like comparing apples to oranges….

    BTW, Campbell allready has the keys…

    ——————————————————

    I think the biggest difference you failed to mention is probably 150lbs….

  385. Raider75 Says:

    4eva,

    Dude, I respect your passion for Gradkowski but it’s not gonna happen.

    Campbell has 52 starts to Gradkowski’s 26

    Campbell has a career completion % of 61.2 compared to a 53.3 for Gradkowski

    Campbell has an 82.3 career QB rating compared to 65.9 for Gradkowski.

    Campbell is 6′5 – Gradkowski is 6′1

    Campbell has the deep ball accuracy the Raiders are looking for.

    And last – look at the contract. Campbell was given 4 mil for next year without ever throwing a pass.

  386. Thec07 Says:

    Just like i called for us getting campbellk, i will make this cal, $100 on JC being the starter the opener…

    Any takers???

  387. Thec07 Says:

    JaMarcus Boucher Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 11:12 am

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++=

    Your right, my bad…lol

  388. Dakota Says:

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 11:08 am

    I dont think Cable will just give the keys to JC.
    +++++++++++++

    You must mean Hue Jackson, as Cable is now only the HC of the towel boys, and word is Jackson handed the keys over to JC the other night at dinner.

  389. Damn They Suck Says:

    Campbell is the guy heading into camp…what happens from there only time will tell.

  390. Thec07 Says:

    let me clear this i like grades, I think he is one of a few stand up guys we have on this team. But no way is he a better option than JC….

  391. Dakota Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 11:12 am
    Just like i called for us getting campbellk, i will make this cal, $100 on JC being the starter the opener…

    Any takers???
    +++++++++++++++++

    If I were you I would throw in some qualifying language, like barring injury, before someone takes you up on that offer.

  392. JaMarcus Boucher Says:

    Based on the past years since Gannon, how can anyone blame us for at least HOPING Campbell will be the guy. Lets face it, he is the best prospect we have had since Gannon. I am on board with anyone BUT JaFatass.

  393. jimmya Says:

    I give the draft a B-. I like McLain, Houston, and the big tackle from Hillsdale. But ..the other “Al Davis picks” bothered me a little. There was some great value to upgrade the offensive line in rounds 4 thru 7.

    Top rated center Justin Walton, Baylor was there for the taking in the 5th round and the Raiders passed on him. Other quality guards as well.

    But I love the Jason Campbell trade. Finally, a legitimate experienced starting QB. Campbell will make all our receivers, running backs, and offensive line better the minute he gets under center.

    I’m hoping for 8-8 this year. I’m hoping having a new offensive coordinator will allow for some offensive growth. Bush and McFadden are key to the teams success. If they can provide a solid 1-2 combo, we will improve.

  394. DMAC Says:

    DHB……….
    More than 4 TD catches this season or less than 4 TD’s?????

  395. RaiderRockstar Says:

    DHB……….
    More than 4 TD catches this season or less than 4 TD’s?????

    ***

    more!

  396. stoopidmike Says:

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 11:08 am

    I dont think Cable will just give the keys to JC.

    —————————————–
    He has to give them to somebody,someone has to drive.You also have to show confidence in your guy,you can’t have a competition past mini camp.That never works out.So if you don’t think Jason is getting the keys,i’m curious who you think it will be?

  397. Damn They Suck Says:

    I say less….he hasnt shown me anything to warrant more than that, to date.

  398. Thec07 Says:

    Dakota Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 11:15 am
    Thec07 Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 11:12 am
    Just like i called for us getting campbellk, i will make this cal, $100 on JC being the starter the opener…

    Any takers???
    +++++++++++++++++

    If I were you I would throw in some qualifying language, like barring injury, before someone takes you up on that offer.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You just read my mind on that one, I was going to type that just now, but i decided not to….

    After the trade was consumated, thats when JC became the starter. He would not have gone on record saying as such. Cable backtracking is typical, as he doesnt want to burst the bubble of the other QB’s as competition is good. But in the end we all know whho will be starting….And its not even close.

    So any takers to the bet….

  399. 4evaRaider Says:

    well I am in the minority 4 Bruce 2 start,I can see.You people will be suprised :)

    Thankx Rockstar,its just that we were soooo terrible running the ball last year,I assumed we were the worst rushing team in the league.

    Injuries and #2 but that shizzzittt is over

  400. Dakota Says:

    Raiders finally put Russell out of our misery!

    http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05_02/hogDM2705_468×343.jpg

  401. Damn They Suck Says:

    No matter what Cable says about an open competition Campbell did not come here to ride the bench, thats for damn sure.

  402. stoopidmike Says:

    DMAC Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 11:17 am
    DHB……….
    More than 4 TD catches this season or less than 4 TD’s?????
    ———————————-
    Even money……or less,not more.I’ve seen elite recievers only get 4 td’s in a season. If DHB turns out to be good,it wont be this yr.He’s a project,maybe next yr.I like chaz/murphy/z.miller with the recieving td’s

  403. Thec07 Says:

    Dakota, WTF is that thing, a dinosaur???

  404. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Campbell had 170 completions to his WR Corps (Moss, Randle El, Thomas & Kelly)

    another 77 completions to his TE’s (Cooley & Davis)

    Raider QB’s had 91 completions to thier WR Corps (Schilens, Higgins, Murphy, Heyward-Bey)

    another 76 completions to thier TE’s (Miller & Stewart)

  405. Damn They Suck Says:

    looks like Ja ate the entire offensive line before he went out…

  406. Raider75 Says:

    Had the Raiders not signed Campbell I would have been pulling for Gradkowski.

    I just don’t think the Raiders go get Campbell to be a backup with Fry-Guy and Boller already on the roster.

    When you trade for a 52 game starter and give him a 4mil dollar contract extension, you are expecting him to be the starter.

  407. DMAC Says:

    It’s an Arkansas Razorback!

  408. 4evaRaider Says:

    Thec,you know Ima living off of unemployment so thqats waay 2 much 4me 2 bet….How ’bout I just tell you I told you so LOL!

  409. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    You guys are giving Bruce too much credit for his starts last year. With Hue Jackson in the mix, we will have a new offense, with new wrinkles, which means all of these guys; Campbell, Grads, Frye and even Russell will be on a level playing field for winning the QB job, and Kyle Boller will start with a slight edge, becuase he knows the system.

    Russell will be cut or continue to stink
    Frye and Grads will battle through camp
    Boller will maintain his edge and probably surprise
    but Campbell will ultimately start, cuz of the salary

  410. RaiderRockstar Says:

    BBL gents. Meeting!

  411. DMAC Says:

    I don’t care if Boller has been in the system 10 years. He’s garbage.

  412. Dakota Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 11:22 am
    Dakota, WTF is that thing, a dinosaur???
    +++++++++++++++

    That was Russell after an offseason of booze, eating, gambling and whores in Vegas.

  413. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Good morning all. How long does it take to heal from a torn pectoral muscle?

  414. jhill Says:

    All I know is that fat kidd didn’t bag that monster with that pea shooter!

  415. Thec07 Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 11:24 am
    Thec,you know Ima living off of unemployment so thqats waay 2 much 4me 2 bet….How ’bout I just tell you I told you so LOL!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I told you so would be in order…lol…

  416. stoopidmike Says:

    I think Boller stick around because AL will like his arm,cheaper version of JaMarcus (and not as fat) plus the familiarity of Hue Jax offense.We might keep 4 QB’s?

  417. Damn They Suck Says:

    the estimate is a month

  418. Dakota Says:

    Jhill, here is the story about that pig….he did kill him with that gun…which is a .50 caliber…

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/child-kills-giant-pig/2007/05/26/1179601736704.html

  419. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    Boller aint a bad QB, he’s had some injury problems, but is alot more accomplished than Grads and Frye. In the off-season I think he will look sharper than people think.

  420. Dakota Says:

    Garbagekowski tore his pectoral on his non-throwing side correct?

    He should be fine before training camp I would imagine.

  421. inonewordraider Says:

    cut Frye, terrible against Cleveland, was only good against us the year before or was it two years ago..

  422. JaMarcus Boucher Says:

    I have already set my Tivo season pass for the , “JaMarcus Russell, Behind the Lines”, or “Where are they now: JaMarcus Russell”….

  423. DMAC Says:

    I’ll take Grads over Boller anyday. Boller has been on a good team and hasn’t accomplished anything.

  424. PassTheCheetos Says:

    That hogs no as big as it appears. The kid in it is standing about ten feet behind, making it appear to be absolutely massive.

  425. Dakota Says:

    JaMarcus Boucher Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 11:35 am

    I have already set my Tivo season pass for the , “JaMarcus Russell, Behind the Lines”, or “Where are they now: JaMarcus Russell”….
    ++++++++++++

    More likely to see him on Celebrity Fat Club.

  426. JaMarcus Boucher Says:

    or the biggest LOSER.

  427. 4evaRaider Says:

    That would be correct Dakota….Bruce injured his NON-throwing side

  428. jhill Says:

    An 11 year old fat ass poping off .50 cals ????

    And they talk about Compton!

  429. Richochet Says:

    # BART Bridge Blues Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 11:25 am

    You guys are giving Bruce too much credit for his starts last year. With Hue Jackson in the mix, we will have a new offense, with new wrinkles, which means all of these guys; Campbell, Grads, Frye and even Russell will be on a level playing field for winning the QB job, and Kyle Boller will start with a slight edge, becuase he knows the system.

    Russell will be cut or continue to stink
    Frye and Grads will battle through camp
    Boller will maintain his edge and probably surprise
    but Campbell will ultimately start, cuz of the salary
    ============================
    When a team makes a decision, in SPITE of salary (Adios JaBuffetGod) then it’s also likely it’s now “It’s not what you bring to the bank, but what you bring on the field” that will get you the nod.

    If it’s neck in neck? No clear winner during camp and preseason games?
    Then Campbell will likely get it, just for the reason you mentioned.
    Just can’t see the organization making the same massive blunder, AGAIN, that it just admitted it made with JR.

  430. Dakota Says:

    Jhill,

    They shoot at a different breed of pigs in Compton from what I hear.

  431. 4evaRaider Says:

    Its wild down here Jhill.Hogs are not indiginous here so you can shoot em when you see em.

  432. stoopidmike Says:

    So Who do you guys think Jacoby Ford turns out to be like? Carlos Francis? Johnny Knox? Jerome Mathis?

  433. jhill Says:

    LOL Dakota …

  434. DMAC Says:

    An UPGRADED Johnny Lee Scary.

  435. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    Jacoby Ford = James Jett

  436. Dakota Says:

    Word is Al decided to cut Russell when he showed up looking like this a couple of weeks ago:

    http://otrsportsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/GaboreySidibeJaMarcus.jpg

  437. stoopidmike Says:

    I think He compares to Francis,in that he was drafted in the same round. I for one liked Carlos Francis,he just couldnt stay healthy

  438. JaMarcus Boucher Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 11:43 am

    Word is Al decided to cut Russell when he showed up looking like this a couple of weeks ago:

    http://otrsportsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/GaboreySidibeJaMarcus.jpg

    —————————————

    LMFAO, dude that is great!!!! Classic. It actually looks like him.

  439. Dakota Says:

    BART Bridge Blues Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 11:43 am
    Jacoby Ford = James Jett
    +++++++++++

    I hope so…Jett had better seasons than DHB will ever dream of having.

  440. DMAC Says:

    I didn’t like Francis after he fumbled that ball on a kickoff and cost us a game.

  441. Thec07 Says:

    Jacoby Ford will turn into …. Jacoby ford.
    He is like reggie Bush, a football player who happens to be fast enough to run track.
    He has great hands, and is dangerous in space.
    Suprisingly good pick up, ask CJ Spiller what it meant to have Jacoby Ford on the team….

  442. Damn They Suck Says:

    LMAO @ 436.

  443. 4evaRaider Says:

    I see #2 has let his hair down lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  444. Thec07 Says:

    Jacoby Ford > jett

  445. stoopidmike Says:

    BART Bridge Blues Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 11:43 am
    Jacoby Ford = James Jett
    ———————————-
    1st half of Jett’s career or 2nd? He produced 1st few yrs,decoy the last half

  446. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    DHB = Alvis Whitted

  447. Damn They Suck Says:

    heard Jacoby’s hands are a bit suspect

  448. DMAC Says:

    Here’s Al’s sleeper pick…
    Walter McFadden
    Has a great chance to be our nickel back.

  449. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    It depends on how the Raiders want to use him, but I imagine his career arc will be similar to Jett’s

  450. jhill Says:

    LMFAO!

    Is that the precious chick?

    Aww man, that is funny!

  451. stoopidmike Says:

    Ol’Jett scored 12 td’s in 97.

  452. jhill Says:

    KR = Jacoby Ford and Nick Miller

  453. Richochet Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 11:34 am

    Jhill, here is the story about that pig….he did kill him with that gun…which is a .50 caliber…

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/child-kills-giant-pig/2007/05/26/1179601736704.html
    ===========================================
    So much about this story is suspect.

    Let’s forget the idea that he’s pretty much in line for “Animal Cruelty of the Year” award (anyone who would shoot an animal 8 times, OVER THREE HOURS, while it slowly dies, when you have a high powered rifle that would have done the job with one shot? That’s animal cruelty, and definitely subject to charges, AS THEY SHOULD BE CHARGED) ….

    but even that picture looks bogus.
    If that was to scale? Animal would be the size of a rhino.

    I suspect animal was shot with rifle, (maybe by the kid or not) then posed with the handgun to get the attention it’s getting..

    Honestly…if you were hunting? And you had a 30-06, and you saw that? Would you EVER consider letting it run off, losing it for good, because you decided to use a handgun?

    no way in hell..I smell swine…well…you know ;)

  454. Damn They Suck Says:

    i remember that….he overachieved that year for sure.

  455. Thec07 Says:

    This is what you bought in the 4th round….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miJBWAhVUkc

    Sleeper pick of the draft….

  456. stoopidmike Says:

    Rocket Ismael was a monster in college,but for us seemed to drop alot of wide open passes too

  457. Lynn from Snot Says:

    DHB = Alvis Whitted

    –==========================

    Can we give him more than a year to evaluate his progress especially since we have a new signal caller?????

  458. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Is Jon Condo still on the team?

  459. Coach Elkins Says:

    The Raiders are 29-83 over the past 7 seasons…a percentage of 25% chance of victory per game over that time pan…

    Jamarcus Russell is 7-18 as a starting QB in the NFL….giving the Raiders a 28% chance of winning per game….

    Factor in that he had 2 Rookie Wide Receivers last season and a second year tight end who was himself a rookie the previous year…along with having to deal with two Head Coaches and 3 Play Callers…. See More

    ____________________________

    It would seem to me that Russell is playing scapegoat for your PAIN Raider Nation….

    Stats don’t lie!

  460. Thec07 Says:

    I feel a blast from Rich coming on…

  461. M Lonetree Says:

    One day ‘neath the shadow of Machapuchare the girlfriend and I were having a stroll from Pokhara to Baidam and Lake Phewa.

    As we ambled and chatted we passed by a small field containing lots of grazing creatures. Normal scene for Nepal with lots of ungulates roaming around.

    The girlfriend was in the midst of saying something when my mind registered what it had just seen in a cursory glance. So I stopped her and we gaped in awe.

    There in the field stood side-by-side an adult water buffalo and a hog. They were the same size!

  462. Coach Elkins Says:

    Russell has only started 22% of the games during our 7 year slump….

    He is not “OUR” problem…!

  463. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Elkins,

    Russell doesn’t encompass the entire 7 years of losing, therefore he is not the whole of the problem, however he has shown himself to also NOT be a part of the solution. A quarterback who sees the NFL as a job, a toil, and a task that takes away from what he really wants to do (chill out, eat, gamble, get more jewelry, and LOOK like a superstar instead of PLAY like one) is not someone that I would want to keep on the team. We have to move forward… and it’s hard to do that when you’re trying to carry and drag 300 lbs of dead weight.

  464. Thec07 Says:

    Thanks SteveA21….

  465. Thec07 Says:

    Although I thought Rich was going to blast off…

  466. VanHeathen Says:

    Sure “coach?”…
    JR did NOTHING to improve himself or this team…
    he’s a mouth breathing slacker who got is money and ran away from the responsibility of being a #1 QB…
    Could we have done more for him? sure, but he needed to do his own work on JR and he isn’t doin it.

  467. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Also,

    To address the ENTIRE seven year stretch:

    In my opinion, the problems can be summed up in four major areas: Horrible Offensive Line Play, Giving up Big Plays, Horrible Drafts that don’t address NEEDS, and Bad Coaching (not necessarily bad coaches).

    The first is being addressed. We have given up so many sacks that it’s ridiculous, but that’s not even half of the story. Even when the passes get out, they were under pressure and usually, the play hadn’t unfolded enough yet. Hopefully, that issue is being fixed. The second issue is being addressed as well. I think the offensive woes also had a LOT to do with the second problem. When the defense is tired by the 2nd quarter, they are more prone to making mental errors, being out of position, and giving up big plays.

    The latest draft gives me hope that the drafting problems are being addressed and will improve in the future. No more can possibly be asked at this point than has already been done in the past week, so I will leave it at that. As for the coaching, we have had too many people doing too many things for which they are not suited. Hopefully Hue at OC will allow Cable to manage the team and give us some better playcalling. If Marshall gets more freedom to let it go, we should see massive defensive improvement, especially given the latest personnel moves. Aside from the big play, the defense played pretty damned well last year, so as long as we can address a few key things, the team should look much better.

    If we were to improve all those things and then keep JaMarcus, even though he shows NO commitment to the game, we would be stuck under .500 for the next few years. We would win games IN SPITE of JR, not BECAUSE of him. I would rather have a QB (Campbell or Gradkowski) who wants it… who will work his ass off to make this team better. JR has spent this offseason proving that he isn’t that guy. He was put on notice with the benching… and he has failed to pay heed. Fare thee well in your next journey, fat boy… but it won’t be in the NFL.

  468. DMAC Says:

    Free agent C Kevin Mawae says he is “befuddled” that no team has signed him yet.

    “I just came off my eighth Pro Bowl and a 16-game season and I can’t get one phone call,” said the 39-year-old. “Alan Fanaca gets cut two days ago and yesterday he signs a contract with another team. And not to take anything away from him, we have the same agent, we’re friends. But something tells me that there is something going on beside me just being 39 years old.”
    Source: ESPN.com

  469. DMAC Says:

    Pick up the phone Al!!!!!!!

  470. Damn They Suck Says:

    i thought Hue was going to be the passing game coordinator only. please clarify.

  471. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Elkins,

    My problem with JR has nothing to do with any of the games he has or hasn’t played since he’s been here. It seems that if he has any idea of ever doing what it takes to succeed, he wants to wait until the rest of the issues are resolved, THEN say “okay, I’ll do my part.”

    We can’t put up with that. What if all the moves we’ve made are good enough to get us to 9-7 with good QB play? Well, that won’t happen with JR, because he’s a year of study in the filmroom away from even reading a defense. He’s a year of practice away from having the timing down with his receivers. He’s at least 6 months away from being in great physical shape… and if he’s busy trying to lose all that fat, he’ll be too fatigued to learn anything. If JR had spent the offseason learning and practicing with his receivers, and staying in shape, I would be ALL FOR keeping him. The fact that he’s going into his fourth year and still saying, “I don’t NEED to put in the work” is too much for me to bear.

    I say that Hue should make out a ten question BASIC NFL QB test. When JR arrives at minicamp, he should have to take the test and then get weighed. If he makes 100% on the test, he can weigh anything and keep his roster spot throughout camp and try to earn his spot ON THE FIELD. If he misses ONE question, then he can only keep his job if he weighs under 290 (still WAY too big). If he misses more than one question, release him immediately regardless of weight.

  472. inonewordraider Says:

    Lorenzo Neal busted his a$$ here and he got cut, Ellis busted his a$$ and we let him go, Morrison busted his a$$ and we traded him, Fargas busted his a$$ and he got cut, Warren was decent and he got cut, why should we hold a guy (Jaunemployed) who didn’t even work hard to a different standard?

  473. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    When you guys make these fat jokes, you have to specify who you’re talking about. I can’t tell if you’re talking about Russell or Cable.

  474. SteveAlford21 Says:

    DMAC,

    I explained a few nights ago that age has nothing to do with Mawae not being signed by anyone. It’s all because he’s president of the players union in a negotiation year. You don’t want a union head working at YOUR plant (on your NFL team). That can be big trouble in the locker room.

  475. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Inonewordraider,

    It’s not a different standard. It’s the exact SAME standard. The standard requires two things: 1)hard work and 2)the ability to translate that hard work into results.

    Morrison worked his ass off, but couldn’t get it done.

    JR is more than capable of getting it done IF he works hard, but he is unwilling to do the work.

  476. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Mortenson and Schefter rope a doped Al again. Reported the story, now Al’s thinking about not making the move to show them up. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Schefter and Mort have more control of this team than Al does. They can make Al do anything by just saying he won’t do it, and vice versa.

  477. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Did you guys see that? Steve Alford just gave his explanation of why the Raiders sucked for the past 7 years, long ass comment, 3 huge paragraphs. Not ONE mention of Al Davis. As if all of those players and coaches he mentions hired themselves. Stupidity at it’s finest.

  478. SteveAlford21 Says:

    RMR,

    I don’t think they got Al to avoid cutting JR. I think the only logical thing to do is to let JR report to minicamp before cutting him, rather than cut him a couple of days early like all the media have speculated. If JR gets to participate in camp, then I’ll agree with you that they got Al to keep JR by reporting that he wouldn’t.

  479. DMAC Says:

    That’s very true Steve.

  480. SteveAlford21 Says:

    RMR,

    I would think that it’s pretty self-explanatory that Al is responsible for all the points that I made. He is the man in charge. He is ultimately to be blamed for any bad decisions that are made. When have I ever said any different?

  481. Coach Elkins Says:

    Steve…again…excellent post…

    However, if our staff can’t coach the skills Russell has to offer they are the problem.

    Just what do you think a coach does?

    He inspires…he gets in your head…he gets you to look at something you know to be true yet he’ll make you question the way you see it….he does what I’m doing to you right now!

    He isn’t just a game planner….a play caller….a leader….

    He is supposed to be the EXAMPLE….

    Tom Cable nor any of his predecessor’s since Gruden have all been below average coaches and leaders….

    Russells performance the first 12 games Cable coached were good enough to earn him a job….but after the season…what is the first thing Cable tries to do….SIGN GARCIA…undermining the faith he should have in the man who had a hand in getting him his job….

    Tom Cable is a counterfeit coach!

  482. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I’ll bet you Al was really going to fire Cable but when the press said he would do it, he changed his mind. Cable is only here to show up the press. Russell is only here to show up Kiffin, and now the press. This is how your guys’ hero runs his team, while teams like New Orleans, Indianapolis, New York Jets, are concentrating on winning. They might play one stupid game with the press every few years, but other than that, it’s ALL business and winning. With Al, it’s all games. All games, all the time, while team needs are neglected.

  483. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Have you seen the posts that I’ve made where I said that Al should have given Kiffin and Cable (in his early days as HC) and Marshall more control? I have never defended Al on these points. He takes too much control and does it HIS way… and that way is lost in the modern game. I’ve said since I got here that Al needs help in the Front Office from people who know the modern game and that he will listen to and USE their advice. You’re barking up the wrong tree, RMR… the archives will back me up on this. I’ve never defended Al in terms of the 7 year disaster. All the things that didn’t get fixed are to be blamed on him. I will, however, give him credit for allowing others to have a say NOW and helping to right the ship.

    He gets blame for the bad and credit for allowing others to help finally create some good. Let’s hope that it’s not too little, too late.

  484. El Tato Says:

    “Two NFL sources tell the Denver Post that Broncos LT Ryan Clady has injured his patellar tendon in a non-football-related incident.According to the Post, “it could be serious.” A late-April patellar tendon tear would jeopardize Clady’s availability for Week 1, though the exact severity is unknown at this time.”

    Im sorry for him, but thats a big problem for the Donkies

  485. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Alford, your reasoning makes no sense. Why would they need Russell to show up at camp? Most companies would prefer to fire someone over the phone, to prevent the awkwardness of doing it in person, and, in some cases, an incident. You make no sense, as usual. You’re just reaching, trying to be right. Trying to sound like you’re an insider and you know what you’re talking about.

    You just posted a long, 3 paragraph diatribe discussing why the team sucks, without mentioning Al. That says a lot.

  486. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Steve,

    Forgive me for being cynical, cut are you and Elkins the same guy?

    And, by the way, if Russell reports to mini-camp and get s injured Al has has to give him 9 million.

  487. Thec07 Says:

    SteveA, Be carefull it could become a never ending circle Bro….

  488. Richochet Says:

    # Lynn from Snot Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 11:53 am

    DHB = Alvis Whitted

    –==========================

    Can we give him more than a year to evaluate his progress especially since we have a new signal caller?????
    ===========
    Oh sure.
    Why not?

    Give him 5 years to see if he can actually do what he’s paid to do, which is catch a football.

    Why expect him to actually perform now?

  489. Coach Elkins Says:

    A coach takes full responsibility for losing….FULL….I have never heard Tom Cable say…it’s my fault….next question….

    If he did, maybe, just maybe, things would be different…as far as his leadership skills go…

    He won’t do that though….because he is scared of losing his job….a man only takes on the mistakes of othrs who has a strong belief in himself…

    We have no such coach!

  490. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Elkins,

    Some people are uncoachable. Gannon credited Hackett as the reason for his success in becoming a great QB. In all his years, I think that Hackett has probably learned to approach different guys in different ways. I doubt that he was dumbfounded as to how to teach JR. The problem is JR. If JR was great at all other aspects except for the things the coaches are responsible for, then I would see your point… but JR can’t even find a way to be good at the things like STAYING IN SHAPE. His own actions (or lack thereof) show that you cannot blame the coaches for his own personal failures. Bringing in Garcia wasn’t a move to undermine JR, it’s what a coach SHOULD do: bring in the best personnel that you can and if JR is truly #1, then he will easily win the job and we will have a GREAT backup. The thing that totally destroys your argument is that JR knew that Garcia wasn’t brought in to take his job, so JR wasn’t undermined at all… and when Garcia found out, he asked to be traded or released. Garcia wasn’t brought in to be the starter, so your argument is invalid.

  491. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Here’s a draft analysis of JaMarcus Russell from a few years ago::

    “his touch on his long ball has improved quite a bit, but he still needs to work on his underneath throws. … Still has not fully grasped the mental aspect of calling his own game yet, and will need to have the plays called for him until he can prove that he can handle play-calling on his own. …”

    Pretty telling, isn’t it?

    Doesn’t it give you an idea of what’s in store?

    Isn’t it pretty much everything Raider fans complain about in Russell at present day?

    Well guess what?

    That’s actually NOT Russell’s draft analysis.

    It’s Jason Campbell’s.

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/2005draft/Campbell,Jason-QB-Auburn.htm

  492. Richochet Says:

    # ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 12:50 pm

    Steve,

    Forgive me for being cynical, cut are you and Elkins the same guy?

    And, by the way, if Russell reports to mini-camp and get s injured Al has has to give him 9 million.
    ========================================
    Just want to go on record and say I know many people from GB.
    None are as slow as you.

    Just didn’t want everyone to stereo-type the nation because of the perception all are as slow as you.

    This has been a Community Service Announcement.

  493. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Coach Elkins Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    A coach takes full responsibility for losing….FULL….I have never heard Tom Cable say…it’s my fault….next question….

    …………

    Because it’s really not his fault. I’ll give him credit for not completely bending over for Al, but he still doesn’t have the balls to stand up to him, which is just as bad. Cable only stands up to nobodies like Hanson.

  494. SteveAlford21 Says:

    England,

    No, I am not Elkins.

    RMR,

    I didn’t mention Al because I assumed that everyone knows that it’s obvious WHO made the decisions, who called the shots, and whose failure to act and FIX those problems was the reason for their continued existence. Al is the reason the team has rotted. I’ve said it before and didn’t think it needed to be mentioned again, as he will never leave until he’s dead and I wanted to address the problems specifically, not in general terms of “it’s Al’s fault.”

  495. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Richosheet:

    The best community service you could offer is flushing yourself down a toilet.

  496. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Steve, you’re a lying sack of shyt. You didn’t mention Al by design, because you want people to blame others, not Al.

    Just like you tried to pass Al’s prevent defense on Rob Ryan the other night, even though we got burnt by that defense last year, after Ryan left, and before Ryan was even here, several times.

    Every word that comes out of your mouth is a lie to defend Al. Every stupid word.

  497. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    I just wondered Steve. Some of your comments are perceptive but, like Elkins you tend to go on a bit.

  498. Coach Elkins Says:

    Leave Al Davis out of it…

    He is the only reason we are all here in the first place….DON’T FORGET THAT! You people speak out in emotional tones regarding this man and only end up defining yourself…and you do in in an online forum hiding behind false names and ego’s and call yourself fans….

    This isn’t A FEW GOOD MEN and you all aren’t Tom Cruise…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hopNAI8Pefg

    Mr. Davis is the epitome of what a leader stands for…in spite of his apparent mistakes….

    __________________________________________

    None of your approval is needed FRIENDS….I’m right!

  499. SteveAlford21 Says:

    And no, he won’t get the full 9 mil for REPORTING to minicamp and getting weighed and tested. If he PARTICIPATES in a team activity and gets injured, then he gets paid. I’m not talking about having him run any drills, I’m talking about getting him in the building, then giving him a test and weighing him. I doubt that he can get a “season-ending” injury or any injury that will keep him on IR until after pre-season while getting on a scale or sitting at a desk… though I suppose it IS possible somehow.

  500. Richochet Says:

    # Coach Elkins Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    A coach takes full responsibility for losing….FULL….I have never heard Tom Cable say…it’s my fault….next question….

    If he did, maybe, just maybe, things would be different…as far as his leadership skills go…

    He won’t do that though….because he is scared of losing his job….a man only takes on the mistakes of othrs who has a strong belief in himself…

    We have no such coach!
    ===================================
    Silly child…why post stupid crap like this?

    You know you’re going to be proven wrong, where you’re then reduced to meekly bowing out again..

    You’re one of those “glutton for punishment” guys, aren’t you?

    “Slap me, insult me, ridicule me, correct me, school me..just POST TO ME” dweebs??

    You related to Real MaddenMoron, by any chance?

    BTW..Cable has numerous times stated he could have handled things differently. Numerous times stated things needed to improve, starting with him. Pointed out how a call that was made shouldn’t have been called under those circumstances.

    Don’t get me wrong, I think Cable is tantamount to a tree stump, much like you’re tantamount to a flea..but at least get your comments straight.

  501. Coach Elkins Says:

    “Suspicion haunts the guilty mind”

  502. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    All that shyt about Russell showing up to camp before he gets cut is bullshyt that Alford is making up to distract us from the fact that Al is considering keeping Russell now, and he knows it.

  503. mack-madden Says:

    Sign Free Agent Steve Alford to play MONSTER LB for the Raiders !!!

  504. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Al is actually offering Russell a chance.
    He’s asking the guy to take a cut in salary and stay.
    If Russell wants to be an NFL QB, all he has to do is take the cut, stay and work at his craft–and that means being prepared for the season and not weighing more than two people.

  505. SteveAlford21 Says:

    RMR,

    You’re totally full of crap. I never said that Al never wanted prevent. I said that Ryan was the KING of prevent. He would go into it at the START of the 4th quarter of ANY game in which we had the lead. There has been prevent from other DC’s, but never as much as we got from Ryan.

    I have talked about Al’s stubbornness, failure to grasp the modern game, and unwillingness to fix problems because that would be admitting failure MANY times. Check the archives. I’ve never defended Al ONCE. There was no “leaving him out by design.” He is in charge, so he gets the blame. Duh.

  506. Richochet Says:

    # ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    Richosheet:

    The best community service you could offer is flushing yourself down a toilet.
    ====================================
    Thanks for proving my point.

    Engaging isn’t for everyone.

    Thinking, while a God given right, is not to be assumed.

    Proving that thinking is daunting, however, is something you’ve seemed to master.

    Goody for you.

  507. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Rickosheeet:

    Are you twelve yars old?
    You make Elkins interesting.

  508. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Alford, you just won’t quit, will you? You’re like the car salesman that keeps walking up to people when they want to browse the lot on their own.

    You said Ryan was “king” of the prevent to pass off the idea that Al Davis has nothing to do with this ridiculous defense that we’ve lost so many games with I’ve lost count. Sure, now you can sit here and say, “I never said Al had nothing to do with it”. Bullshyt. Same difference. I know your game, idiot. You just keep blaming people outside of Al, then when someone calls you on it, you go to your sly disclaimer. “I never said Al wasn’t at fault, he is too, I assumed every knew that”. BULL SHYT. It’s about perception. You keep trying to talk about people other than Al, keep bringing their name up, and it distracts from Al’s accountability. I know you’re game. You must think I’m as dumb as the others in here. Give up now, before I really start making you look stupid.

  509. lefty12 Says:

    instead of calling him Elkins call him by his real name-Randy Hanson.

  510. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Mack,

    If we switch to a 3-4 and we get a time machine to go pick up the 1999-2003 version of me, then sure… that would be a pretty good signing (at least I’d get to find out if I was good enough. Probably not, but very, VERY few really are). McClain could play ILB on the weakside and I could be spy from strongside and audible out or reposition. I know you were being sarcastic, but that’s okay. My knee is too shot now and I’ve been out of the weight-room for too long… I’ve actually gotten down to a skinny 165 these days… more than 20 pounds below my playing weight. Without juice, that would take all summer and then some to put back on… if my joints could take it at this point. A 5′10, 165lb Roving Linebacker is not a good idea in the NFL.

  511. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    What a pompeous jackass you are Rickosheet.
    Why are on this blog since you can’t think or write and your only ability is to copy and paste?

  512. Coach Elkins Says:

    Al Davis should honor the contract…he drafted it…

    If he wanted it contingent based on performance…he should have put it in the contract at that time….

    He knows that!

    Russell stays and gets paid to sit the bench.

    Campbell soup guy is here to motivate…nothing more…nothing less…

    AL Davis wipes his ass with money…as well he should.

    “Money is simply a tool used to create the illusion of power”

  513. mack-madden Says:

    Russell is considering a paycut ONLY because he needs 5yrs NFL experince to be eligible for NFL pension plan.

    Trust me. I know this for a FACT.

    Right now he got his agent seeing if he can/will get a better salary elsewhere.

  514. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Come on, Steve. Give us another long winded, 3 big paragraph diatribe about why we’ve struggled the last 7 years, where you don’t once mention Al. One more. Come on.

  515. SteveAlford21 Says:

    RMR,

    I’ve blamed Al many times. You’re wasting text by saying that I left him out by design that time… because I’ve talked about his failures and faults many times before. The archives can back me up. You’re just a troll, end of story. Now please try to get an argument from someone else, you sad little fairweather fan.

  516. Damn They Suck Says:

    Elkins is a Davis lackey

  517. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Rickosheet:

    Please tell us your opinion of all bloggers!
    I mean we’re just dying to know what a little dipshoot likes you thinks.

    Where are your tickets Rickosheeet?
    Do you sit in the Black Hole?
    I’d love to meet you in the Black Hole Rickosheeeet.

  518. SteveAlford21 Says:

    RMR admitting that he isn’t a Raiders fan:

    “Raider fans worried about a lockout. lol. Too funny. Be the best thing that’s ever happened to you guys. One less year of embarrassment. You can actually try to tell people that that would have been your year. Try to make a case for it bringing up future hall of famers like Jason Campbell. Of course, no one will believe you. But it won’t stop you from doing it.”

  519. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Oh, a new disclaimer. The old, “I’ve blamed Al many times”.

    Next he’s going to tell me to look it up, knowing good and well the only time he’s ever blamed Al is when he was called upon it, and it was his typical, “I never said Al wasn’t at fault, I just assumed everyone knew that”.

    Your game is weak. It’s been tried before. I’m sure you came in here thinking it would be a clever new strategy. It’s not. But if you want to keep running into the cement wall head first, go ahead.

  520. Richochet Says:

    Coach Elkins Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    A coach takes full responsibility for losing….FULL
    —————————–
    LMAO..you’re like a little target….a Bullseye that says “INSERT ARROW HERE”.

    No, a coach does NOT AUTOMATICALL TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR LOSING, you moron. That’s what LOSERS do…weak minded fools,..

    A coach takes full responsibility for getting the players ready to play…THAT’S HIS JOB.

    Some coaches will take responsibility for losing a game because of something they did during that game that affected the outcome…BUT ANY COACH WHO STANDS UP AND STATES ‘It’s my fault for every loss we ever have” is also saying ‘I get full credit for every win we ever have”.

    you’re an idiot, Elkie…plain and simple.

    Hey?? Maybe that’s why you got fired from that prestigious widdle High School???

  521. SteveAlford21 Says:

    He’s just a pitiful little troll with no friends who comes here for attention. :D

  522. mack-madden Says:

    Steve I just want you on the roster so that you can make more $$$ open a tatto shop out here and get access to more pills to snort.

    Give me free tattos.
    Maybe you might even share Pills with me…

  523. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Rickosheeet:

    We all love reading your asinine comments.
    You are definitely the resident philosopher on this blog.

  524. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Ha ha. Now he’s changing the topic. Trying to “prove” I’m not a fan. I don’t give a shyt if any of you idiots think I’m a fan or not.

  525. Coach Elkins Says:

    “Snowman, how are your vocal cords”?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnRwQjTYfGI

  526. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Rickosheet:

    At least Elkins doesn’t constantly copy and paste and while his comments may seem interminable yours asre invariably idiotic.

  527. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    So, Steve, are you finally done trying to lie and pretend you don’t have an agenda of protecting Al? Is that why we have the sudden subject change to me not being a real fan and a troll, whatever? If you believed that, why didn’t you just say that at first? Because you know I exposed your lying ass, and you had to at least try to address it.

  528. VanHeathen Says:

    Elkins = TJ

  529. Coach Elkins Says:

    Leave richochet alone….I need guys like him…

    He’s PREDICABLE & he allows me to voice my opinion….but I call hm snowman!

  530. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Steve, I never said I wasn’t a troll, or was a real fan, I just assumed everyone knew it…

  531. Richochet Says:

    # ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 1:11 pm

    Rickosheet:

    Please tell us your opinion of all bloggers!
    I mean we’re just dying to know what a little dipshoot likes you thinks.

    Where are your tickets Rickosheeet?
    Do you sit in the Black Hole?
    I’d love to meet you in the Black Hole Rickosheeeet.
    ===================
    All bloggers?

    Naw…just the meek, weak, and pathetic.

    Congrats on making the list.

    Now shut up.

    BTW…what the hell is this “are you in the black hole’?? WTF??
    You think that area is any different from any other area in the stadium? It just happens to be closer to the field where people dress up.

    LMAO that you actually think it’s a “scary” or “tough” place…it’s not.
    It’s just like every other section of the stadium.

    With costumes.

  532. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Mack,

    I don’t know if there’s anywhere to open a tattoo shop in the East Bay that doesn’t already HAVE ONE there. Maybe Kell can look into it for me and find a listing on some property…

    As for snorting pills, I finally got a new MRI on my knee and now I get the prescribed to me LEGALLY, so I’d be more than happy to put one on the table for you to see. If you then handed me a shot of whiskey or otherwise distracted me and it disappeared, then I guess it would just be gone, wouldn’t it?

  533. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Officer, I never said I didn’t rob the bank, I just assumed you guys knew I did.

  534. Coach Elkins Says:

    He’s like my Fullback…my blocker…I only wished I knew his real name…

    He’s my best fan!

    “Kill him with kindness”

  535. Raider75 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    Here’s a draft analysis of JaMarcus Russell from a few years ago::

    “his touch on his long ball has improved quite a bit, but he still needs to work on his underneath throws. … Still has not fully grasped the mental aspect of calling his own game yet, and will need to have the plays called for him until he can prove that he can handle play-calling on his own. …”

    Pretty telling, isn’t it?

    Doesn’t it give you an idea of what’s in store?

    Isn’t it pretty much everything Raider fans complain about in Russell at present day?

    Well guess what?

    That’s actually NOT Russell’s draft analysis.

    It’s Jason Campbell’s.
    ………..

    Yeah, then he went out and in 52 starts has posted a 61.2 career completion % and a career QB rating of 82.3

    Campbell has IMPROVED every year in the league.

    Russell had faults coming in but did NOTHING to get better.

  536. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I never said there wasn’t a cliff there, I just assumed he knew it.

  537. SteveAlford21 Says:

    RMR,

    I have no agenda of protecting Al. What good would it do to protect him on a blog message board? I finally got tired of waiting for him to die or retire (because those will NEVER happen), so I focus on what CAN be changed. Mentioning Al in every post accomplishes nothing.

  538. Richochet Says:

    # ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    What a pompeous jackass you are Rickosheet.
    Why are on this blog since you can’t think or write and your only ability is to copy and paste?
    =========================
    Copy and paste?

    You moron…no, dumbass…I QUOTE. You understand what a “quote” is?
    Copy and paste is someone taking someone else’s words, and pasting it as their own..you moron.

    LOTS of posters “quote”..especially those that aren’t on here non-stop, so the reply applies to a previous comment.

    What? You can’t figure that out?

    See above about how not ALL are as slow as you.

  539. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Campbell did not improve. Maybe a few numbers, but overall, he is not a starting QB in this league, that’s why Shanahan was quick to dump him for a nearly washed up McNabb.

  540. Richochet Says:

    See England? Post 535.
    Raider 75 QUOTES MR, then replies to it.

    Understand now? lol…why do I know you don’t?

  541. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You F’N LIAR!

    Al Davis can retire. He can change by hiring a GM. You CAN focus on that, and talk about that. You’re not focusing on things that can be changed. You’re focusing on things that HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH AL, to distract people from his accountability, to PROTECT HIM. I told you already, I’m not as stupid as the others in here. It won’t work with me, kid.

  542. mack-madden Says:

    West Oakland has ZERO tatto shops.

    ZERO grocery stores.

    ZERO banks.

    You or anyone can come here and monopolize all three today.

  543. BoJacks Says:

    Does anyone have a comprehensive list of the rumors about Russell that Jerry alluded to in the chat?

  544. Coach Elkins Says:

    I’m picking up what you’re laying down Snowman…interesting observation!

  545. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    No, Rickosheeeet I don’t think the Black Hole is scary.

    Did you just say “scary”?

    Are you twelve years old?

    So you think the Black Hole is “just like any other part of the Stadium-only with costumes.

    You’d know more about costumes than I would idiot.

    I’ll meet you in any part of the stadium you like.

    I’ll meet in the Castro if you like, I’m pretty sure you live there-not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  546. SteveAlford21 Says:

    RMR,

    I talked for a long time about how Al HAD TO hire a GM. I finally realized it wasn’t going to happen, so I stopped talking about it. I talked about him retiring until I read that he won’t retire until the team wins two more SuperBowls, then I stopped. I focus on what can realistically be expected to change. It does no good to spout that Al sucks constantly… nothing will change.

  547. Richochet Says:

    # Coach Elkins Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    Leave richochet alone….I need guys like him…

    He’s PREDICABLE & he allows me to voice my opinion….but I call hm snowman!
    =========================
    Ahhh…the “diversion” reply.

    It’s where you get your ass handed to you, and you know it.

    You aren’t sure what to say in reply.
    If you try and refute me slapping your idiot comment down, you risk more embarrassment.

    If you post something as weak as “I need posters like him”, it’s still embarrassing, but you hope the sting is shorter than how it would be if you actually tried a retort.

    Of course, you tried that before..didn’t you? lol…

    Didn’t fare that well, as you well recall.

    Wise to tuck tail, Elkie…accept that which you can not change.

    good boy

  548. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    West Oakland is probably the roughest neighborhood in California. It’s the only ghetto in California that looks like the ghettos of DC, Maryland, etc. Just really economically depressed. All kinds of stores and restaurants boarded up and closed.

  549. Lynn from Snot Says:

    http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter

    Not so fast on Russell????????

  550. SteveAlford21 Says:

    RMR,

    I haven’t talked about things that have nothing to do with him. My four points that I made about the last seven years… Al is ultimately responsible for ALL of them. The lack of getting new offensive linemen: Al is the head of personnel. Defense gives up big plays: Al didn’t get better defenders or improve the offensive line so that the D isn’t on the field so long. Bad Drafts: DUH! Al all the way. Bad coaching: Al didn’t make sure he had competent guys in positions that they COULD HANDLE and give them enough power to do their job well… or avoid giving them too much to handle, taking away any effectiveness they could have. All the points I made are about Al. How could you possible say that they weren’t, just because I didn’t say his name?

  551. 831GoldenState Says:

    What now is Al going to cut him because bspn said they werent?

  552. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Rickosheeet:

    You are the biggest expletive deleted on this blog.

    You seem to come on here and attempt to prove your manhood by attacking other peopel.

    You should go somewhere else and worry asbout the size of your dik.

    At least you’re the biggest dikhead on on here.

  553. ottocrat Says:

    What did Schefter say? My work PC blocks Twitter.

  554. 831GoldenState Says:

    Surprise, surprise: Raiders have not cut QB JaMarcus Russell and they plan to have him attend this weekend’s minicamp to compete.
    17 minutes ago via UberTwitter

  555. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Yet another Rickosheeeet post where he cuts and blogs.

    The guy is so addle-brained that he can’t remember what people say.

    The personification of the 5-second attention span.

  556. Raider75 Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 1:18 pm

    Campbell did not improve. Maybe a few numbers, but overall, he is not a starting QB in this league, that’s why Shanahan was quick to dump him for a nearly washed up McNabb.
    ……….

    1. Campbell wasn’t dumped until the trade for McNabb came through.
    2. Of course Shanahan went after a veteran QB. All of his success has come behind an old QB. He can’t coach a young one. Just ask Cutler.
    3. The only way you measure improvement is by numbers. The numbers went up, hence IMPROVEMENT!

  557. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Surprise, surprise: Raiders have not cut QB JaMarcus Russell and they plan to have him attend this weekend’s minicamp to compete

  558. ottocrat Says:

    GAAWWWDD! JUST F’N END IT, BABY.

  559. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    What about our date Rickosheeet?

    Any time, any place. I’ll bring two friends-one’s at the end of my left arm and the others at the end of right arm.

    I want Norco Bob to officiate.
    He’s and honest Raider, whereas you’re pile of Rickosheeeet.

  560. Lynn from Snot Says:

    I heard Jamarcus was paid by the pound.

  561. DeuceDeuce Says:

    64.5 completion %, 3618 yards, 20 TD’s 15 INT’s, 86.4 rating.

    60.5 completion %, 3666 yards, 27 TD’s 26 INT’s, 76.8 rating.

    One guy was traded for a conditional 4th round pick

    The other was trade for 2 1st’s a 3rd and Kyle Orton..

    Well I guess you know who they are now…

  562. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Rickosheeet.

    Go fuk yourself. You’re not worth bothering with.

  563. Coach Elkins Says:

    Later fellas….my job here today is done…

    Raiders for Life!

  564. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Ryan Clady hurt his knee……

  565. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Maybe trolls are a natural development of web-based discussion… almost necessary for the ecosystme of that environment. Without trolls to constantly beg for attention, there are lulls in the conversation (like now). Hmmm… perhaps they do serve some bit of value.

  566. SteveAlford21 Says:

    *ecosystem*

  567. Raider75 Says:

    Russell can come to every meeting and practice from now until doomsday.

    He will never see the field as a starter again.

    Al just has a hard time letting go.

  568. Coach Elkins Says:

    “Where the telescope ends the microscope begins, and who can say which has the wider vision?” -Victor Hugo-

  569. Coach Elkins Says:

    “Emotions are automatic consequences of a mind’s past conclusions, regardless of how that mind has been used or misused in the process of reaching them. Any appearance of conflict between mind and emotion is, in fact, a clash between conscious and subconscious ideas.” -Leonard Peikoff-

  570. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Raider75 Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
    Russell can come to every meeting and practice from now until doomsday.

    He will never see the field as a starter again.

    Al just has a hard time letting go.

    True. If he plays for the minimum I dont really care if he’s on the roster. Just dont let him take any meaningful snaps.

    Id rather that than he go somewhere and it clicks.

  571. SteveAlford21 Says:

    I thought you left, Elkins…

  572. Coach Elkins Says:

    “The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources”

  573. Coach Elkins Says:

    “The leader can never close the gap between himself and the group. If he does, he is no longer what he must be. He must walk a tightrope between the consent he must win and the control he must exert.” -Vince Lombardi-

  574. Coach Elkins Says:

    “The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.” -Thomas Jefferson-

  575. Raider75 Says:

    # Coach Elkins Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    “The leader can never close the gap between himself and the group. If he does, he is no longer what he must be. He must walk a tightrope between the consent he must win and the control he must exert.” -Vince Lombardi-
    ………..

    Truer words were never spoken.

  576. Coach Elkins Says:

    “A turtle makes progress when it sticks its neck out”

  577. mack-madden Says:

    Real madden raider.

    I tip my cap to you for your awareness of west Oakland.

    Grew up here since I was 5. Been here ever since.

    Such a prime location also.
    Close to everything.
    Right next to the water.

  578. SteveAlford21 Says:

    It’s all well and good to have all these maxims and quotes to go by, but unless you can have a philosophy of your own to go by, then you will never break any new ground or accomplish a damned thing of your own.

  579. Coach Elkins Says:

    “He who angers you conquers you.” -Elizabeth Kenny-

  580. Coach Elkins Says:

    Do you realize that you’re not thinking right now of what I’m not saying? And can you realize that it’s not that easy to not know what I’m going to say next, but even when you’re not knowing it, I’m knowing it and you’re not.

  581. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Mack,

    I lived in SE D.C. for a while… only white boy for 20 blocks in any direction. It started out kind of strained, with no one knowing if they could trust me or vice-versa (except for a friend of mine who I had moved in with). After a few weeks, everything started to click. As cliche’d as it might sound, playing basketball on the playgrounds there is what actually broke the tension. I have no problem with being in areas like how you describe West Oakland, but I don’t know how well a business would do in an undeveloped area. I suppose SOMEONE has to be the first to take a chance on it, but it’s an awful lot of money to risk with no established market there.

  582. Coach Elkins Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N44vdCqI7LI

  583. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Coach Elkins:

    Post #579.
    Yeah, right.

  584. Florida Pete Says:

    SteveAlford21 Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
    It’s all well and good to have all these maxims and quotes to go by, but unless you can have a philosophy of your own to go by, then you will never break any new ground or accomplish a damned thing of your own.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    “if it don’t fit… force it…”
    Florida Pete, 1980

  585. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    It’s doubtful if any other team will take Russell.
    He should take Al’s offer, stay and work on improving.
    Always assuming that he wants to be in the NFL.

  586. SteveAlford21 Says:

    And I can say this with certainty: typical white people are FAR too afraid of “the ghetto.” The way you act around people is how they usually reciprocate. The worst experience I ever had with anyone there was a dude mean-muggin me hard, so rather than act confrontational or afraid that he was gonna do somethin, I said “sup” and tried to start a conversation. He shook his head and raised his hand up and said, “you got it wrong… I ain’t friendly.” I said okay and moved on. No problem, no beef, no action. His boys seemed fine with it and I went about my way.

  587. Florida Pete Says:

    Coach Elkins Says:
    April 28th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
    Do you realize that you’re not thinking right now of what I’m not saying? And can you realize that it’s not that easy to not know what I’m going to say next, but even when you’re not knowing it, I’m knowing it and you’re not.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    you must be buddies with this guy:

    “Reports that say that something hasn’t happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know.”

    Don Rumsfeld

  588. VanHeathen Says:

    Damn…thought this was a Raiders Football site,
    Not 25cent Philosphy class led by coach TJ…

  589. Florida Pete Says:

    “nice rack…”

    Florida Pete, 1983

  590. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Uh-oh

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/28/arkansas-football-arrests_n_555786.html

  591. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    The reality of Campbell is that he has slow feet, slow release, has trouble making up his mind and Washington wanted him gone.

    On the other hand, the man has some character, works hard and learns from his mistakes. Plus his completion rate last year was over 64%.

    He’s a considerable improvement over Russell.
    Even so there is going to be a competition between Russell and Gradowski and I wouldn’t want to bet on who starts the first game.

  592. Florida Pete Says:

    “if you turn left three times you will end up where you started…”

    Florida Pete, 1968

  593. SteveAlford21 Says:

    It’s not OUR Miller… so f-u-c-k him.

  594. Florida Pete Says:

    “if your luck is inversely proportional to your effort, why bother…”

    accidently spoken to Jamarcus Russell after he was drafted number 1…

    he didn’t really know what it meant…

    but he took the correct action…

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    April 28th, 2010 at 1:18 pm

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    April 28th, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    What a pompeous jackass you are Rickosheet.
    Why are on this blog since you can’t think or write and your only ability is to copy and paste?
    =========================
    Copy and paste?

    You moron…no, dumbass…I QUOTE. You understand what a “quote” is?
    ================================================

    No, you don’t quote. You PLAGAIRIZE. You take the beatdowns I put on you, change YOUR name to someone elses like koolkell, and then just regurgitate exactly what I wrote. Sad, but true.

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