Pre-minicamp notes
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, April 29th, 2010 at 4:26 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders hold their mandatory minicamp starting Friday with practices at 10:30 a.m. and 4 p.m. the first two days and a single session at 11:15 a.m. on Sunday.
There is no confirmation on the signing of undrafted free agents, and as far as anyone can tell, the company line given by coach Tom Cable that JaMarcus Russell would compete in minicamp after the acquisition of Jason Campbell hasn’t changed.
Last year, when Derrick Burgess reported to minicamp but was angling for a trade, the team said he missed workouts because of the “stomach flu.”
Last season’s mandatory camp had some early warning signs of what was to come as Darrius Heyward-Bey had trouble holding the ball and ended the weekend with a hamstring strain, second-round Mike Mitchell also had a hamstring pull. Russell struggled to complete even the most routine pass routes.
During the first minicamp practice, there were 10 fumbled exchanges on center snaps.
The camps are “non-contact,” with no tackling or full-on blocking. It’s most choreography, teaching footwork and timing.
EXTRA POINTS: It appears Rock Cartwright is serious about being the new Justin Fargas. He was issued No. 25. Still no number given to Jason Campbell, who may be negotiating with Jonathan Holland for No. 17. (UPDATE: The roster on Raiders.com has been updated with Campbell wearing No. 8 ) . . . Holland is back at wide receiver after moving to cornerback last year . . . locker rooms are not open during minicamps and it remains to be seen who will and will not be made available following practice sessions. The Raiders usually bring rookie draft picks into the media room on the first day of minicamp, a practice that precludes the possibility of talking to certain veterans . . . got a mobile Twitter feed up and running Thursday and the plan is to post updates from the field . . . players began arriving Thursday for medical checks.
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April 29th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
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April 29th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
I was starting to think you ditched us Jerry! So What time can we expect the fix??
April 29th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Hope we don’t suck this year
April 29th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
RR
go on with that BS…
April 29th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
I know the Russell drama is taking everyone’s attention, but I’m curious, has anyone heard of any statement from the NFL network about Sapp and his recent run in with the law? Guilt has never been a factor in levying a punishment of some sort. Ex player or not, he still represents and works for the NFL. If anything, he should be held to an even higher standard. All I see is he’s out for a few months and then he’s back, with nothing said. Why the silence?
April 29th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Raider Dell Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
RaiderDell
Henderson gave up by the time they played the Browns, you sign the guy for a one year contract, he will be motivated. Also we could sign him for two year contract filled with incentives, thats how you motivate a big man. Henderson is a wall when it comes to run defense and thats what this team needs.
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Raiders4eve,
My comments earlier to Bri@n, are the reasons I would like to see someone else as the DT, next to Kelly.
You have some valid points, as you stated. I just believe, if Henderson was able to dominate his gaps as he should in Jacksonville system, there would be no reason to release him.
Henderson was a dynamic duo with Stroud next to him in their Defense a few years back. Stroud signed that FA contract with Buffals and Hendeson has been exposed since. He has slowly been giving up his gaps and has shown no dominance as he once did.
So the question is, did Stroud make him the player or did Henderson just get worn down.
Finally to your point. I don’t know about you, but to say your out of the playoffs and there is no motivation to play hard, I just can’t understand that logic. Henderson should play hard for his next contract, no matter what the circumstances are of his team. That would worry me, is he motivated by his play or his lack of pride and team.
I’m off to the gym, comment back and I’ll check back later.
April 29th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
I like your optimism RR. lol
April 29th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Henderson has a chance to be good. we all know that Russell himself was to blame for many of the sacks last year. Holding the ball so damn long made all of the o-linemen look bad, not just Henderson. Campbell, at least, is more decisive and gets the ball out quicker. The stats show that he is also much more accurate. So theoretically we should improve in these catagories, but who the hell knows what’s going to happen with these guys.
It’s always something with this team. We always seem to find a way to implode. An the only thing constant about this team is Al. Hmmm.
April 29th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
RaiderDell,
comment as per post #6.
just because Henderson once was a large player means nothing in the NotForLong. It is as simple as that.
fans fixate on player names because of what they once were or might have been whether they can still be a force or not.
wouldn’t trade the spot of a draftee or a UDFA for him.
time for the big name FAs to find a different home than Oakland where they have so often come to make one last big paycheck and nothing more.
treacherous currents, Kauai, pay heed.
April 29th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Raider Dell
I hear bro. It could be that Henderson was motivated playing along Stroud. Yet, Henderson played well all of last year with the exception of the season ending game in a cold weather against the Browns. I have seen many teams who give up the end of the year, the Broncos did it two years in a row. To base the whole notion that he doesnt play hard for a meaningless game at the end of the season is totally wrong. Another point is that when Stroud was there, henderson played the three technique position and thats why he posted good numbers. He clearly was getting double teamed as he was the best DL the Jacs had. I dont think Henderson was exposed but rather that the talent around him didnt fit Henderson capabilities. You could say Seymour did shine last year and he was exposed but yet everyone knows Seymour is a great player. Henderson playing along TK/Houston and Seymour would be a dynamic force to reckon with. I think a good contract based on incentives would be the best way to go about it.
April 29th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
#1 Rock Carwright sounds like a porn star.
#2 Pay back time for da Ja walrus, he held out for more money now he should squirm
#3 Should he stay if restructured? or should we just cut him
#4 WWADD: what would Al Davis Do?
April 29th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Hope one of our new fullbacks turns into the next John Ritchie.
April 29th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Sweet.
Thanks Jerry. BTW, Holland will not be needing that jersey for much longer anyways….
April 29th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Wasn’t Rock Cartwright on Bonanza? Yeah, I remember, he got kicked off after the first episode. Got drunk and tried to make it with Hop Sing. Gets mighty lonley out there in the woods you know.
April 29th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Raider Dell
I hear bro. It could be that Henderson was motivated playing along Stroud. Yet, Henderson played well all of last year with the exception of the season ending game in a cold weather against the Browns.
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Actually he didn’t. He was terrible last year. And the year before. That’s why they gave up on him.
April 29th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
I also supported the drafting and development of Russell. The play of the QB probably cost us being at least a .500 team last year. While still not good, even being .500 would be something to build on around here.
April 29th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
J Camp took number 8 guess he wants a fresh start
April 29th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Ready for my new McClain jersey.
April 29th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
The interesting part about this FB Tonga from BYU is how old he is.
He left school for a year, maybe two.
He is 26, and about a year and a half older than Jamarcus, as a rookie.
I don’t know if he is stout enough, but he is a decent runner and catcher, played in the BYU, high-scoring spread offense. He probably is great in pass protection.
April 29th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
M,
Less than a year ago, I was a proud Jamarcus Russell jersey-wearing fan.
What a difference a year makes huh?
April 29th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Al will not release Russell.
He still believes that he is the next Elway.
He would rather waste 6 million than let him fall into enemy hands.
Al will always screw things up!
April 29th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Something tells me if we cut Russell today Indy, New England or Denver would pick him up, let him sit for two years, watch him mature and then he would win 10+games a year for the next ten years.
April 29th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
vegas raider Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
M,
Less than a year ago, I was a proud Jamarcus Russell jersey-wearing fan.
What a difference a year makes huh?
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maybe you could a a O stitched next to that number 2…
oh… wait… maybe not…
April 29th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
stats may lie, but once again -
Albert Haynesworth
2009 – 29 solo tackles, 37 total tackles, 4 sacks
John Henderson
2009 – 26 solo tackles, 36 total tackles, 3 sacks
Tommy Kelly
2009 – 37 solo tackles, 55 total tackles, 1 sack
read ‘em and applaud kids. the Raiders already have a tackle more than equal to Fat Albert or Slacker John.
April 29th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
I can’t believe JaCrisco is still in the gawddamn building. JUST CUT THIS FAT B1TCH ALREADY! You know if he practices tomorrow, he’s going to pull up lame. You know it! He’s going to try to complete a pass, and fall over like a focking beached whale. CUT HIM NOW!
April 29th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Seymour,
I think that “Something” must be peyote, because that is straight crazy talk.
April 29th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Pete,
After the Bengals game last year, I came on here and offered it up to anyone who was willing to pay for the shipping.
Took an hour or two for any takers, but I ended up sending it out to Louisana.
April 29th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
25.M Lonetree Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
stats may lie, but once again -
Albert Haynesworth
2009 – 29 solo tackles, 37 total tackles, 4 sacks
John Henderson
2009 – 26 solo tackles, 36 total tackles, 3 sacks
Tommy Kelly
2009 – 37 solo tackles, 55 total tackles, 1 sack
read ‘em and applaud kids. the Raiders already have a tackle more than equal to Fat Albert or Slacker John.
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nobody’s saying get rid of Tommy Kelly…
we’re saying we another DT…
as in additional DT…
in addition to Tommy Kelly…
one more…
just ’splaining…
April 29th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
# vegas raider Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Seymour,
I think that “Something” must be peyote, because that is straight crazy talk.
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Haha. Good one.
April 29th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
vegas raider Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Pete,
After the Bengals game last year, I came on here and offered it up to anyone who was willing to pay for the shipping.
Took an hour or two for any takers, but I ended up sending it out to Louisana.
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i remember that…
i thought you were kidding…
April 29th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Florida Pete,
I would rather have some hungry inexperienced fat kid as a new DT than an overpriced once-was veteran who plays when it suits him.
April 29th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Pete,
You are the man! #24 is hilarious. And yes, I have the #20.
April 29th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
That’s how I roll Pete.
I rid myself of it immediately.
April 29th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
# M Lonetree Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Florida Pete,
I would rather have some hungry inexperienced fat kid as a new DT than an overpriced once-was veteran who plays when it suits him.
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So would I. Especially with a couple of guys like Shaughnessy and Houston ready to fly around the field. Why bring some fat ass underachiever to teach ‘em how to take plays off without anyone figuring it out for a few years.
April 29th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Florida Pete,
I would rather have some hungry inexperienced fat kid as a new DT than an overpriced once-was veteran who plays when it suits him.
………………………………….i dont appreciate the fat kidd remark
April 29th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
GO RAIDERS!!!! I’m excited to hear what’s going to happen the next few days.. I am also pleased to read 35 posts without ANY namecalling.
April 29th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
I have become obsessed with the Raiders since the draft.
And in the end we will probably go 8-8.
April 29th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
# M Lonetree Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
stats may lie, but once again -
Albert Haynesworth
2009 – 29 solo tackles, 37 total tackles, 4 sacks
John Henderson
2009 – 26 solo tackles, 36 total tackles, 3 sacks
Tommy Kelly
2009 – 37 solo tackles, 55 total tackles, 1 sack
read ‘em and applaud kids. the Raiders already have a tackle more than equal to Fat Albert or Slacker John.
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PLUS, Tommy Kelly is the only DT in the NFL to have mooned the viewing audience on National TV. Now that’s really getting into the game and telling the opposition what you think about them.
April 29th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Jamarcus deserves a second chance. Perhaps he accepts lower contract, and competes for the job; then he could make the position even stronger.
I look forward to the run defense this year! This will be key, and have been watching McClain on the BCS Championship game being replayed. Looks like Rolando can shed blocks!
April 29th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
rraider Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Jamarcus deserves a second chance. Perhaps he accepts lower contract, and competes for the job; then he could make the position even stronger.
I look forward to the run defense this year! This will be key, and have been watching McClain on the BCS Championship game being replayed. Looks like Rolando can shed blocks!
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JaBustus doesn’t deserve a damn thing! If he can’t get it done in 3 years, it’s not going to happen. He wasn’t some 6th round pick who may need to grow. He was the #1 pick which should be able to compete coming out of the chute. Aside from his lack of basic NFL skills, he has an attitude problem that’s not going to change. What he deserves is a kick in the ass and a overhead projector press conference showing him the friggin door. He’s worse than a locker room cancer. He’s the world’s biggest loser and we don’t need his big ass in there contaminating all the new kids coming in. He was a bad decision. AD is now “getting over it”. He can’t afford not to.
April 29th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
To Al’s minion…Jerry has mentioned he’s aware of ticket holders holding off on ticket renewals until JaBustus is shown the door. Add me to the list. Cut the lazy, lard ass before he injures himself in the lunch room.
April 29th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
GO RAIDERS!!!! I’m excited to hear what’s going to happen the next few days.. I am also pleased to read 35 posts without ANY namecalling.
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You must have missed in #25 when Ottocrat called JaMarc a “FAT B1TCH.”
I want to see DMc play a full football season for once.
April 29th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
I’m calling it….
DHB is going to win the annual Jerry Mac best player in camp award.
April 29th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Yea, and I will not renew season tickets until we get rid of Eugene. Get real Dude. Either you are a Raider fan or not!
Did you not like the comeback at Denver?
Personally, I think Grads will win the job outright, cause he has the most heart!
April 29th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
You must have missed in #25 when Ottocrat called JaMarc a “FAT B1TCH.”
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You’re right.. Actually I overlooked several JMR nicknames. But being in the anti-JaMarcus camp I didn’t count those as, like Ottocrat, I hope they cut him. I was more thinking about the way people talk to each other here. Actually I’m hoping Big Al is being crafty and keeping him around til the last minute before cutting him in payback for the terrible price my beloved Raiders have paid to suffer this waste of flesh.
April 29th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
DMAC fumbles at three time the rate of Fargas and Bush…what happens when the other team starts tackling him?
April 29th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Jrraider
Eugene is going to compete with our seventh round selection the safety named Brown I guess.
April 29th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
Don’t we deserve better than 3.4 YPC for a #4 overall pick?
Can I get an amen?
April 29th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
That’s Stevie Brown, UM alum – very athletic, solid hitter, can play multiple positions incl. special teams
April 29th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
jrraider Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Jamarcus deserves a second chance. Perhaps he accepts lower contract, and competes for the job; then he could make the position even stronger.
I look forward to the run defense this year! This will be key, and have been watching McClain on the BCS Championship game being replayed. Looks like Rolando can shed blocks!
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We’re still missing one, big, fat and nasty player on the line.
April 29th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Amen Bo. But I’m wondering what an improved OL, FB and better playcalling will bring?
April 29th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Al is having a field day with the media this year. It’s been classic. What a marketing genious. Anything to keep ‘em guessing. Cable fired, not. McNabb acquired, not. Roethlisberger acquired, not. Bruce Campbell 1st round, not. Jamarcus cut, not. Who’s leaking the false rumors?
April 29th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
DHB will win the Alvin Whitted award.
April 29th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Amen Bo. But I’m wondering what an improved OL, FB and better playcalling will bring?
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Better opportunities for the real RBs on the team.
April 29th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
What does JaMarcus Russell and an owner who has no clue what he’s doing have in common?
They’re both still in Oakland.
April 29th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Amen to that too
April 29th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Amen!
April 29th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Those of you threatening to boycott, via not renewing your season tix….just who do you think you’re fooling? Al will not budge for you guys. After decades of unadulterated, blind loyalty? Al knows as time goes on you guys will change your mind. It’s Raider football. It’s your life. And AL KNOWS IT. That’s where Al is a marketing genius. Never mind the press. It’s the way he keeps you guys coming back for a lousy product, year after year.
April 29th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
campbell #8. new number for a righty, make a name for himself!!!
April 29th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Al will not budge for you guys.
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Al has been budging since the fan base called for Kiffin’s head on a stake. Way to listen to us, and good job on the draft Al. Keep it up.
Cya tomorrow Raider fans. And you too StrahanManNY.
April 29th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
MR
We are addicts. Al does, however, “use” the media to keep the team in the news and destracted from the realities of poor performance at all levels.
April 29th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
raidertalk Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
#1 Rock Carwright sounds like a porn star.
#2 Pay back time for da Ja walrus, he held out for more money now he should squirm
#3 Should he stay if restructured? or should we just cut him
#4 WWADD: what would Al Davis Do?
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i hope he restructures…. maybe a couple yrs learning is all he needs. id hate to see him go elseware and end up a stud….hey you never know!!!!
April 29th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
One alarming statistic about jason campbell i just read on raiders.com is that he fumbled the ball 13 times last year.
April 29th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Rayda23059 Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Al is having a field day with the media this year. It’s been classic. What a marketing genious. Anything to keep ‘em guessing. Cable fired, not. McNabb acquired, not. Roethlisberger acquired, not. Bruce Campbell 1st round, not. Jamarcus cut, not. Who’s leaking the false rumors?
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Yeah, but this stuff doesn’t win football games.
April 29th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Hey guys, what’s the story on Oren O’Neal. Will he be able to contribute this year. He was suppose to be a “bad-mother fuzker” prior to his injury. I liked him a lot. He was a walk on in college who made it fairly good.
Hope he’s ready to take it to the next level.
April 29th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Rayda, are you kidding? Who’s distracted from the Raiders’ poor performance? NOBODY ON EARTH. If that’s Al’s strategy….if that’s what he’s honestly trying to do right now, is create controversy so people will forget how bad his team has been for 7 years? It’s more proof of how out of touch he is.
April 29th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Bo, you think Al fired Kiffin because the fans wanted him too? After that press conference? Where Al spent an hour crying and fussing about how disloyal Kiffin was to him, and NEVER ONCE mentioned the fans? Are you serious? You can’t be that stupid.
April 29th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Campbell only lost 3 fumbles last year.
April 29th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Really ????
#
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Wonder how that’s going to play on a jersey, Jerry?!?!?
April 29th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Al …..bring back frantz joseph to camp!!!!!
April 29th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
has any other raider great worn #2 ???….if not can we imediatly burn it and never bring it back once jbust is gone???
April 29th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Raider fan has been attached to too many plodding players. I am very thankful that Davis/Cable removed their intense attraction to certain players. I am also thankful that the coaches weren’t blinded by one exceptional game by Gradkowski. That they realized that JaDavis made him look like a world beater. They realized that an upgrade was necessary.
With Fargas gone, now the Raiders can get Michael Bush and DMAC their carries
That Cornell Green is not a starter in this league
That Gerard Warren and Kirk Morrison were just not getting the job done
I am still concerned about the lack of a space eater up front, and that will limit the effectiveness of the defense…I also hope that Louis Murphy is allowed to compete against DHB and that they don’t “force” him the lineup to prove a point…..
Wonder if Sam Williams will have to compete for a roster spot with all theses linebackers and extra DBs
April 29th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
How can we burn it, Quag? It’s still active. Russell’s still on the team, and will probably remain on the team. I’m telling you guys, Al refuses to let Kiffin win. That’s far more important to him than winning on the field.
April 29th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
RNOraiderFan Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 9:49 am
BREAKING NEWS FROM RAIDER’S HEADQUARTERS!
Russell showed up to work out. Jason Campbell was also there to work out. Russell ate Campbell!
Southwick to be named starter!
April 29th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
@ real….im talking as soon as he’s cut!!!! i just cant associate winning and that silver an black # anymore??
April 29th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
i just cant associate winning and that silver an black # anymore??
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Anymore ?????
April 29th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
it has always been Al’s thinking that the player before leaves his aura behind in the jersey #’s…thats why he never retires a #, but this one should be destroyed!!
April 29th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
They realized that an upgrade was necessary.
With Fargas gone, now the Raiders can get Michael Bush and DMAC their carries
That Cornell Green is not a starter in this league
That Gerard Warren and Kirk Morrison were just not getting the job done
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LOL, SnB …
Even with all those changes, you still seem a bit, um, skeptical.
April 29th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
@JHILL the #2 jersey
April 29th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Yeah, but your choice of the word “anymore” was puzzling.
When has #2 EVER been associated with winning with the SnB?
April 29th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Al …..i want frantz joseph back in camp!!!
April 29th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
@jhill i watch all the games with the hope of winning and certain #’s out on the field i would have hope of winning, but the minute i see #2 i basicaly throw in the towel??
April 29th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
How can we burn it, Quag? It’s still active. Russell’s still on the team, and will probably remain on the team. I’m telling you guys, Al refuses to let Kiffin win. That’s far more important to him than winning on the field.
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I agree, this is a personal vendetta.
April 29th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
The Al is a puss for NOT cutting this chump…
I will not go to another game until he is GONE!!!!!
R.I.P. Bill King A Bay Area legend…
April 29th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
@ real so does he renew his contract and hide him?? i know Al is stubborn but sheeesh this is absurd
April 29th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Sure, Tonga.
April 29th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Holland was moved to CB last year ?
GTFO!!!!
April 29th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
I will not go to another game until he is GONE!!!!!
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LOL!
Yeah, the front office really believes that.
Raiders win in Tenn with Russell starting and you don’t go to the home opener?
LMFAO!
April 29th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Rayda, are you kidding? Who’s distracted from the Raiders’ poor performance? NOBODY ON EARTH. If that’s Al’s strategy….if that’s what he’s honestly trying to do right now, is create controversy so people will forget how bad his team has been for 7 years? It’s more proof of how out of touch he is.
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Al wants to be known as the maverick. Unpredictable, unconventional and a risk-taker. Ironically, just the opposite behavior played out in the draft and media is a buzz. You don’t hear much about the last 7 year debacle.
April 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
i forget who mentioned this ….but the young rookies and the free agents should not be subjected to a camp with jbust??
April 29th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Or …
Raiders win with Russell as the #3 QB and you boycott games?
HILARIOUS!
April 29th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
****memo*****memo*****memo*****
priesttj, your obviously too embarrassed to show your face in here and really who can blame you. But here’s the thing tj, if you comeback in 2 weeks you are going to get smashed, if you comeback in 2 months you are going to get smashed, if you comeback in 2 years, you are going to get smashed! Are you getting the picture?
Just come back and apologize to everybody that said J Russell was a bust and you called names or cried “racist” and you can have a clean slate, well not really!
April 29th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Something tells me if we cut Russell today Indy, New England or Denver would pick him up, let him sit for two years, watch him mature and then he would win 10+games a year for the next ten years.
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You’ve made some dumb comments in your time..I mean some REALLY REALLY dumb comments…from stating JR was a “bonified NFL starting qb” to “Simms beat out Staley” to “Niners will never sign Crabtree..GUARANTEED” to “Clayton was the leading rusher the last two years (even though he never had one snap) to “Montana never showed any passion when he played” and a whole slew more…but NONE OF THEM WERE AS IGNORANT AS THIS POST.
Yes, another “OakDork Idiot-Ism’s” that will no doubt be brought back numerous times…for it’s laugh value.
Think about it…you’re saying Belichick is going to PICK UP RUSSELL, AND HIS CONTRACT? And PAY HIM TO SIT TWO MORE YEARS, THEN BELIEVE HE’S NOW GOING TO ALL OF A SUDDEN GIVE A DAMN?
You are one of the dumbest cotton balls on the planet, lol…and you just proved it.
April 29th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
You can suck it Hilldo, And fpuck the front office to from the backside. I shoulda left when Al LOW-BALLED Bill king…
April 29th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Seymour/OakGlen/Debo,
No apology necessary from you since you rotate aliases and change your names as often as KKKell changes his tidy whities.
April 29th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
****memo*****memo*****memo*****
priesttj, your obviously too embarrassed to show your face in here and really who can blame you. But here’s the thing tj, if you comeback in 2 weeks you are going to get smashed, if you comeback in 2 months you are going to get smashed, if you comeback in 2 years, you are going to get smashed! Are you getting the picture?
Just come back and apologize to everybody that said J Russell was a bust and you called names or cried “racist” and you can have a clean slate, well not really!
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LMAO..oh can’t you just see TJ?
All butt hurt?
Walking around, talking to himself..people avoiding him, believing he’s about to blow.
If JR is gone? TJ will wait for a while, then show back up ignoring all the challenges to admit he blew it…if Al pulls an Al?
And tries to save face by keeping that lardass around?
TJ will be here immediately, stating “Oh, knew it all along. Al told me while we were baking cookies.”
HEY TJ?? Want the reality?
REALITY IS YOU’RE A BALL LESS LITTLE MAN FOR HIDING LIKE A LITTLE GIRL BECAUSE YOU CAN’T STEP UP AND TAKE IT.
you can dish it out, fool, but taking it? You’re a mouse.
April 29th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Richochet,
Have you FINALLY watched “Big Fan: The Unauthorized Story of PriestTJ” yet, bro?
April 29th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
What’s the over/under on how many of these new names are Oakglen/Seymour/BSDetector/Maddenisdouche/CappyBlack/Debo/etc???
April 29th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
There’s guys who work at Gold’s Gym that would be embarrassed to show up in the shape that Jabustus is in. Hell there’s guys who work at Starbucks who have more self respect than that. What a fat worthless slob.
April 29th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
# SteveAlford21 Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Richochet,
Have you FINALLY watched “Big Fan: The Unauthorized Story of PriestTJ” yet, bro?
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In that case..will watch it tonight
April 29th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
—-> BsDetector <—-
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# Richochet Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
What’s the over/under on how many of these new names are Oakglen/Seymour/BSDetector/Maddenisdouche/CappyBlack/Debo/etc???
April 29th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
man our linebackers are pretty big this season… all 250lbs plus… i like that.
April 29th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
30 year thats nice to see aint it ? We got some beef in that front 7. We have to be better stopping the run in year 2 of Marshall.
April 29th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
I shoulda left when Al LOW-BALLED Bill king…
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This guy ….
#3 QB and what the Radio guy is making are reasons to pull the plug on being a Raider fan?
LMFAO!
April 29th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
Oh I know all of those names are Oakglen..I meant the new names on this blog who just “showed up”.
April 29th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
My bad I thought you left off BsDetector. I saw it after I posted. Im sure we dont know 1/10 of his entire names catalog.
April 29th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
they showed the title game texas vs bama about 2 weeks ago on classic… ill be honest i was more intrigued with Houston than RO MAC.. im no longhorn fan but man he was reeking havoc the whole game…
April 29th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Was he doing that from DE or DT, or both ?
April 29th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
i can see lamar putting on another ten lbs of muscle… he can really open things up for des bryant and TK..
April 29th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
they lined him up over the og and ot..
April 29th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
sometimes in the gap too…
April 29th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
My bad I thought you left off BsDetector. I saw it after I posted. Im sure we dont know 1/10 of his entire names catalog.
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Yeah, isn’t it amazing how many “new” names show up, and just post as if they’ve been here all along? Knowing everyone? quoting past threads?
Kind of like that Debo guy, lol…who just shows up and starts propping OakSeymours takes? Propping TJ?
Just…odd…you know? lol….just..somehow..odd.
April 29th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
30 year raider Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
they showed the title game texas vs bama about 2 weeks ago on classic… ill be honest i was more intrigued with Houston than RO MAC.. im no longhorn fan but man he was reeking havoc the whole game…
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I get the feeling that Al makes his selection off of the one big bowl game he watches.
Micheal Huff had a huge game for Texas in the national championship game years ago, and he was taken by the Raiders.
Larry Brown had a huge superbowl years back and Al paid him crazy money.
I think there is a definite history there with players performing in the last big game of the year.
April 29th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
im fairly new but i have been a long time reader cuz im a diehard silver and black…. but man where are all the jamarcus supporters at???
April 29th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
TJ is Debo
April 29th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
We are all now convinced Russell is not the future and its terrible 30 Year Raider. I was ok with him in 08 hoping he’d improve, but lost hope in 09. I wanted him cut since we got Campbell.
April 29th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
30 year raider Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
im fairly new but i have been a long time reader cuz im a diehard silver and black…. but man where are all the jamarcus supporters at???
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Buying new fur coats?
Maybe at the jeweller’s getting Jaguar necklaces?
April 29th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
# NorthernD Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
30 year raider Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
they showed the title game texas vs bama about 2 weeks ago on classic… ill be honest i was more intrigued with Houston than RO MAC.. im no longhorn fan but man he was reeking havoc the whole game…
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I get the feeling that Al makes his selection off of the one big bowl game he watches.
Micheal Huff had a huge game for Texas in the national championship game years ago, and he was taken by the Raiders.
Larry Brown had a huge superbowl years back and Al paid him crazy money.
I think there is a definite history there with players performing in the last big game of the year.
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i thought huff played OK in that title game… his #1 ranked def did get lit up like a christmas tree tho for over 600 yds of total offense…
April 29th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d817dd7e4&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
April 29th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
i wish i was a fly on the wall to hear exactly how all of this is gonna go down tommorrow!!
April 29th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
TJ is Dumbo.
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# NorthernD Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
TJ is Debo
April 29th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Until JaMarcus reconstructs his contract … he should not be allow on the field. You want to bet he gets injuried.
April 29th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
if veldheer can crack the starting line-up id be “geeked”!! im realy gonna be watching alex parsons… im a big SC guy… we had one of the better oline coaches in Pat Ruel there for the last 7-8yrs.. parsons will push cooper carlisle for that rg spot…he is a solid technician who does not commit many penalties.. he will surprise you guys…
April 29th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
30 year raider Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
im fairly new but i have been a long time reader cuz im a diehard silver and black…. but man where are all the jamarcus supporters at???
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Are you kidding me???
The money he took and the very little effort he put in … Al should sue this bum.
April 29th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
To be fair, I thought russell was the best choice for the Raiders with their first pick.
Physically he was imposing, he had great efficiency numbers in college, had a rocket arm, and filled an obvious need. My only concern was who was the better QB? Russell or Quinn?
The final bowl game, Russell was clearly superior to Quinn in all aspects. In fact I wouldn’t even have drafted quinn until a later round.
Russell was not a superstar prospect like an Aikman or Manning, but he was the best available QB that year. I had concern with the way he talked, and that it might be a problem for his team-mates to understand him in the huddle. Also he seemed too relaxed and not a firey type leader who will inspire his team, but other than that, there were no huge red flags.
The Raiders however, should have known better. They have access to the full history of JaMarcus and should have known all aspects of him. They should have employed a psycologist to probe him and determine if any of his current faults were present at the time.
They should also have mentored him, and provided him with assistance in becoming a better person and helping him grow up. Considering the overall investment, it would be a small price to pay to ensure he develops properly.
I’m not removing fault from from JaMarcus, just saying that the Raiders could have done more to ensure the first selection in that draft was a sound decision.
April 29th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
man ive talked some hellafied shyt on here about jamarcus… but i wont miss that sorry piece of blubber when the door hits him in back of the head when he gets fired!!!!!this clown was over the top!!! fur coats, big diamond earrings, huge entourage.. what a freakin payaso!!!!!
April 29th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
# raideralex99 Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
30 year raider Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
im fairly new but i have been a long time reader cuz im a diehard silver and black…. but man where are all the jamarcus supporters at???
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Are you kidding me???
The money he took and the very little effort he put in … Al should sue this bum.
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kidding you about what bro???
April 29th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
# NorthernD Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
To be fair, I thought russell was the best choice for the Raiders with their first pick.
Physically he was imposing, he had great efficiency numbers in college, had a rocket arm, and filled an obvious need. My only concern was who was the better QB? Russell or Quinn?
The final bowl game, Russell was clearly superior to Quinn in all aspects. In fact I wouldn’t even have drafted quinn until a later round.
Russell was not a superstar prospect like an Aikman or Manning, but he was the best available QB that year. I had concern with the way he talked, and that it might be a problem for his team-mates to understand him in the huddle. Also he seemed too relaxed and not a firey type leader who will inspire his team, but other than that, there were no huge red flags.
The Raiders however, should have known better. They have access to the full history of JaMarcus and should have known all aspects of him. They should have employed a psycologist to probe him and determine if any of his current faults were present at the time.
They should also have mentored him, and provided him with assistance in becoming a better person and helping him grow up. Considering the overall investment, it would be a small price to pay to ensure he develops properly.
I’m not removing fault from from JaMarcus, just saying that the Raiders could have done more to ensure the first selection in that draft was a sound decision.
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well said
April 29th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Yes, Russell should be the biggest bust of all time if he gets cut. It won’t all be because of his play on the field which was horrible last year, but tolerable and improving in 08. It will be because he had many chances to be successful but just didn’t care enough and ate himself out of his job.
April 29th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
when you get thrown 60 million dollars 30 mill guaranteed… he lost what lil ambition that he had…
April 29th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
11:40 here in texas im out… RAIDER NATION will be back!!!!!!
April 29th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
The calm before the storm.
Tomorrow should be fun.
April 29th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
# Rayda23059 Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
You don’t hear much about the last 7 year debacle.
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That doesn’t mean people are distracted from it. Everyone knows Al Davis has ruined this franchise, and that the Raiders are in the midst of one of the worst free falls in pro sports history. It’s common knowledge. The news doesn’t report that the sky is blue, either. Does that mean nobody knows it? Does that mean the sky has effectively distracted humanity from the fact that its blue by leaking stories to the media? This notion that Al Davis is rope a doping the press is more delusional kool aid bombing from the “Al’s still got it” camp. If anything, it’s the other way around. Al was probably going to get rid of Russell and start anew until Clayton reported it, before he’d completely made up his mind.
April 29th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
30 year raider Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
im fairly new but i have been a long time reader cuz im a diehard silver and black….
30 year raider Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
man ive talked some hellafied shyt on here about jamarcus…
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Hmmmmmmm ….
Nah, couldn’t be.
April 29th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
HAHAHA we already have a tackle in Kelly?? that’s a joke. He sucks and should have been cut a long time ago. Those stats are weak. How come we still suck against the run? He is fat, lazy, weak and gets tired too quickly. Houston should be our DT. Come on cable… get your head out of your *ss and put Houston as our DT.
April 29th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
Davis supporters,
Al Davis has lost it, completely. He brings nothing to the table anymore in regards to building a winning NFL franchise. Whatever games he tries to play with the press do nothing to better his team, or even make him more money. Merely getting attention does not help your brand sell. Making your brand a winner is what sells, and in pro sports, there’s only one way to do that. To win. Al Davis offers absolutely nothing to the Raiders anymore as far as financial and on the field success goes. Nothing. If you want to tell me how great Al was in the past, knock yourself out. The object of the game is to win, and from the late ’60s to the mid ’80s, Al did that, alright. More so than anyone else in the game. But today he is worthless. And all arguments to the contrary just come off as pebbles being shot via sling shot in a nuclear war. It’s a fruitless mission. But if you want to keep trying, go ahead. I can’t stop you. I can only emphasize to you just how much I’m NOT convinced.
April 29th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
Al Davis is making a comeback.
I see 7-8 wins, 4-5 sellouts.
April 29th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
well al davis was right about kiffin!!!
April 29th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
So is JaBustus gonna have a cold or a touch of the flu tomorrow? No way AD or TC lets him do anything on the field as long as that contract hasn’t been renegotiated. The big Dummy is probably too stupid to renegotiate. He’ll just take his riches and by a couple hamburger stands.
Some fool from another team may pick him up as a novelty or payback in the case of Shannahan, just to rub AD’s nose in it. The long & short of t is JR is past history in the NFL. He WILL go down as the biggest bust ever.
Let’s just cut his ass and get him outta here. He brings nothing positive to the Raiders or their locker room. Adios azzhole.
April 29th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Your a stupid PUTZ hill, That radio guy was Bill King
THE VOICE OF THE RAIDERS. And the Raiders haven’t WON since Al let THE VOICE go.
#3 q.b. for $30 something million, with your analysis HILL you could work in the scouting department. Yes Hill you talked mad loads about russell but you punk out when it’s time to get rid of him. Dude went down on arm tackles, how can a dude that fat go down that easy???
April 29th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
al davis is the voice of the raiders,he is the heart of the raiders,he is the brains of the raiders
April 29th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
Russell will or has restructured and Oakland won’t announce it.
April 29th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
I for one am not looking forward to masive influx of fair weather fans once this thing gets righted.
April 29th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
Hey Fat kid get it straight Al scammed his way into become majority owner…
The Bill King called all the classic games…
April 29th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
Tell Shell he needs to handover the clipboard. Now the big question is do they give JaBustus a pencil too? You know what the big dummy is going to write down – I’m #1, I’m #1, I’m #1, I’m #1, I’m #1, I’m #1, I’m #1, I’m #1, I’m #1, I’m #1, I’m #1, I’m #1, I’m #1, I’m #1, I’m #1, etc., etc., etc.
April 29th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
al earned everything he got,thru hard work and a keen mind,bill king is a pimple on als a$$
April 29th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
# jhill Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
30 year raider Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
im fairly new but i have been a long time reader cuz im a diehard silver and black….
30 year raider Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
man ive talked some hellafied shyt on here about jamarcus…
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Hmmmmmmm ….
Nah, couldn’t be.
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then again…..might be
April 29th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
OK Fat boy here’s were your stupidity shines through…
April 29th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
al is king,emperor,of the raiders if your a fan you a just one of his peasants and hardly fit to walk in his footprints
April 29th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
tonga Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Your a stupid PUTZ hill, That radio guy was Bill King
THE VOICE OF THE RAIDERS. And the Raiders haven’t WON since Al let THE VOICE go.
#3 q.b. for $30 something million, with your analysis HILL you could work in the scouting department. Yes Hill you talked mad loads about russell but you punk out when it’s time to get rid of him. Dude went down on arm tackles, how can a dude that fat go down that easy???
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Still LMFAO at you ….
Remember, it all starts with your letting the world know that you won’t be going to any more games until Russell is cut.
Let’s not trying to change the subject, lol!
I really can’t imagine me boycotting Laker games because Chickie baby wasn’t paid top $, LOL!
LOLOLOLOL ….
This is hilarious!
“Yes Hill you talked mad loads about russell but you punk out when it’s time to get rid of him.”
I’m not even sure what “mad loads” means, but if you’re implying that I, um talked shyt about Russell, um, so what ????
Punk out = turn your back on the Raiders because Al is paying the 3rd string QB 10 million?
Hell we paid our #6 WR how much last year?
Gimme a break man …. PUH-LEEEEZE!
April 29th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
News-Flash; J-hill and Fat-boy were spotted in the castro blowing Jim Drunkenmiller…
April 29th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
I for one am not looking forward to masive influx of fair weather fans once this thing gets righted.
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For REAL !!!!!
April 29th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
news flash =tonga is 1/8 the man al davis is
April 29th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
Vegas, 7-8 wins? I had you down for 8 wins a few days ago. Want to change it to 7?
April 29th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
J-hill and Fat-boy were spotted in the castro blowing Jim Drunkenmiller…
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Hey Vegas,
LMFAO!
Didn’t we just talk about this last week or so? You know, FELLAS going with the MALE SEX talk!?!?!?
Gotta love these guys who have visions of homo stuff and actually think it’s funny.
April 29th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
Al loves USC almost as much as he hates Lane/Lance Kiffin. And yet, suddenly, shockingly, Kiffin is the King of USC, the last place and last job Al would’ve ever wanted Kiffin to land.
And Al knows that he was the one who–by accident–started Kiffin down this road. He knows. That can’t feel good.
Al knows that Kiffin used his battle with Al to heighten his own persona (OVERHEAD PROJECTOR!), and that there is no way Kiffin is the inheritor of Pete Carroll’s throne if Al had never hired him three years ago.
This is what Al said the day he fired Kiffin “for cause” and whipped out the overhead projector: “He conned me like he conned all you people.”
April 29th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
Tonga ….. Tonga ????? …. is mad because no one believes he’s done with the Raiders until Russell is cut.
I mean REALLY ?!?!?!?
3rd string, deactivated, or simply just not playing ????
Doesn’t matter. He’s such a fan, he’s boycotting all games until Russell is cut. Even thought about boycotting because THE radio guy wasn’t making enough.
To hell with the rest of THE RAIDERS, huh ????
Hilarious stuff man. Thanks for the comedy.
Catch y’all in da mornin’
April 29th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
“He conned me like he conned all you people.”
Jibberish.
April 29th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
tonga is not a raider fan he is one of those closet charger fans and they deserve him
April 29th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
“He conned me like he conned all you people.”
Jibberish.
no just a fact
April 29th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Al Davis Vindicated? Lane Kiffin Bolts for USC All the dust is settling right now and there are too many mixed messages from every party involved. I never felt Al was crazy in that press conference, and a lot of what he had to say about Lane Kiffin is evidently true.
April 29th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
Lane Kiffin: Amateur Coach, Professional Liar
by Michael Schulze Correspondent Written on February 13, 2009 Let’s face it. Lane Kiffin is going to need to pull off a historic turnaround to avoid becoming one of the most ridiculed coaches in college and professional sports.
Make no mistake, what Kiffin does at the University of Tennessee will impact his reputation as the coach of the Oakland Raiders. However, all Kiffin has done with his time at Tennessee is validate Al Davis’ judgment. Lane Kiffin is an amateur coach and a professional liar.
Raider fans were already far too familiar with Kiffin when he was hired by Tennessee. He quickly wore out his welcome by throwing anybody and everybody under the bus to make sure no blame fell on him. He was the Savior, and no one would listen to him. Never mind that kid’s résumé was as padded with fluff as a high schooler who joined every club at school.
He was a master recruiter. Big deal. Who wouldn’t be a master recruiter at USC? He was an offensive guru. With the talent USC has, that offense would be successful running the wishbone.
As far as his real talents? Who knows? It appears his real talent is angering his team, its fans, his superiors, and pretty much everyone else.
The Raiders offense became worse under Kiffin. Of course, that wasn’t Kiffin’s fault, since as he pointed out many times, the Raiders just didn’t have enough talented players. That didn’t sit well with the team.
Kiffin’s already broken out the blame game at Tennessee. Earlier this month, Kiffin had this to say while announcing the 19 players who committed to Tennessee: “Understand this class is far below the standards we have here and what will be here in the future.”
No word on how well those comments sit with the players who committed that day.
Kiffin’s ability as a liar knows no bounds.
Kiffin instructed a recruit to lie in the paper and to the school the recruit was supposed to be committed to. While that it isn’t unheard of, the fact that Kiffin would brag about it shows lying comes as naturally to him as blaming others for everything.
As he did in Oakland, Kiffin is now also lying to his own players. Janzen Jackson was weighing his options on where to sign. Kiffin convinced Jackson to sign with Tennessee since LSU already had two other safeties committed for the incoming class, including Darren Myles. Even though he’s a natural cornerback, Jackson wants to play safety.
Kiffin convinced both Jackson and Myles to sign with Tennessee, not telling either of them of his intent to sign the other. Now both kids are upset and feel misled because they both signed with Tennessee and are in a class with three incoming safeties.
Lying is Kiffin’s specialty. Now he has two players who already feel lied to and a whole recruiting class that has been publicly criticized by the coach as not being talented enough.
Kiffin is already dead in the water.
Now Kiffin has to face the SEC. He’s already publicly accused Florida’s coach Urban Meyer of cheating and was summarily slapped by the SEC since he was completely wrong. He’s also criticized Georgia by saying Georgia had fallen asleep in its recruiting efforts.
Expect Kiffin’s face to be rubbed in it when Florida, South Carolina, and Georgia run up the score on the Tennessee team that already hates its coach.
April 29th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Ask Tenn Vols if Kitten was a conman or not…..I see Vols fans at the gym every week. They now know what Raider fans felt like.
April 29th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
What’s he supposed to do, turn down a USC job?
As far as him conning Al Davis, it was him or Al. Don’t get mad at Kiffin for outsmarting him.
April 29th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
TJ is Dumbo.
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# NorthernD Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
TJ is Debo
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I thought Oakglen was debo and I was Oakglen. mistabrown/wackysheeit you have been circling the drain for SO LONG, you don’t know which way is up.
April 29th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
tonga Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
#3 q.b. for $30 something million, with your analysis HILL you could work in the scouting department.
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They’ve already paid him 80% of that money, which if you cut him would be a GUARANTEED WASTE. You bring in Campbell who has been thru EXACTLY the same thing Russell has, and let them duke both it out, with Grads in the wings. Winner takes all, and if one of them emerges as a solid NFL starter, how does the franchise screw up?
April 29th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
cut russel cut russel cut russel cut russelcut russel cut russel cut russel cut russelcut russel cut russel cut russel cut russelcut russel cut russel cut russel cut russelcut russel cut russel cut russel cut russelcut russel cut russel cut russel cut russel 300ibs. useless piece of $hit thats why he was #2
April 29th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
we look better now then same time last year that is for certain! still some pretty good FAs out there hope we make a move.
April 29th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
yo bretheren did anyone pick up micah johnson from kentucky?
i know a lot of us were high on him, suprised no team took a flier
April 29th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
What’s he supposed to do, turn down a USC job?
As far as him conning Al Davis, it was him or Al. Don’t get mad at Kiffin for outsmarting him.
We will have to see how USC does this year for your answer, so you have another 5 months to speculate your support for your golden boy. Just consider me a post under another name..that how far this blog has degenerated. Pathetic
April 30th, 2010 at 12:10 am
KC may regret taking Eric Berry with the #5 instead of Okung.
I like Berry and think he’s going to be great. I hope Campbell or whoever doesn’t get burned by him.
http://www.raidernationstation.com/around_the_league
I think McCluster and Arenas have question marks.
April 30th, 2010 at 12:13 am
You called Kiffin a “golden boy”, 310, not me. That must be how you see him.
April 30th, 2010 at 12:19 am
170. Just look at Tennessee to see how Davis was right about the Kiffster.
A traveshamockery.
April 30th, 2010 at 1:14 am
Usc has been irrelevant since they lost too texas in the national championship. Imo dominating the big ten in the rose is no big deal. Lane kiffin has been completely unsuccessful as a headcoach. However the one thing he has proven to be good at is recruiting, something his predecessor pete carrol was excellent at. In the world of college football recruiting year in and year out is the biggest factor when it comes to success.
April 30th, 2010 at 1:21 am
Anyone want to predict the hour that the axe falls tomorrow? I’m taking the 1 – 2 PM slot.
If he doesn’t get cut, it’s because of only a few things:
1) Russell has a mystery ailment that keeps him out of practice. As Jerry said, they have a medical tomorrow. Maybe the doctor will fail to detect any heart . . .
2) He has a contract modification put in that waives any injury settlements should one occur in camp. That should be reasonable to Russell with a little speech around how he can be cut now, or he can have a chance to show that he’s worth an additional $6M gamble this year. Some clever lawyer in the Raiders camp will show him a graphic that illustrates just how many fried chickens that buys.
April 30th, 2010 at 2:14 am
I would like to share this excellent blog from RaiderNation on Tony Washington. I really think this guy deserves a chance and, given his agent is Vann McElroy, the Raiders could/should be the team to offer that chance:
“I’ve advocated Abilene Christian offensive tackle Tony Washington via my blog and twitter. Washington is a registered sex offender and is required to register for life. He was convicted of having consensual sex with his 15-year-old sister, when he was 16. Seven years ago.
This is no doubt a disgusting act, for which Washington pays a price. He will carry a stigma for the rest of his life.
Below is an excerpt from the original report from SportsFanLive:
“The fact that the offense was committed as a juvenile means the odds are in his favor. According to a report published by the National Center on Sexual Behavior of Youth, adolescent sex offenders have a 5 percent to 14 percent chance of sexual re-offenses.
Dr. Fred Berlin, Associate Professor of the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, and founder of the Sexual Disorders Clinic, believes that unlike adult offenders, juveniles are “highly treatable” and “rarely go on to become adult offenders.”
According to Berlin, who has treated juvenile sex offenders, in some cases a young offender must simply accept the consequences of his mistakes and learn how to behave differently in order to move on. Other times, more intensive treatment, such as medication, is needed to ensure they are not a threat to others, or even to themselves.
Berlin has been an advocate for shielding juvenile sex offenders from the harsh stigma and even humiliation that accompanies placement on local and national registries.
“We want adolescent sex offenders to go on and become productive members of society, but they can’t do that if we’re constantly throwing barricades in front of them,” Berlin said.
Berlin cautions that each individual must be evaluated on a case-by-case basis. But he says the fact that Washington’s wasn’t a forced act, that there was just a one-year age difference, and that he has not had any reported run-ins with the law since, suggests that as long as Washington has had the appropriate counseling, “the likelihood is very high that he’s going to go on and live a good, responsible life.”
Washington hasn’t had any issues in the six years since the act. While some will find it hard to move past Washington’s horrible act, he has been given chances and hasn’t squandered them.
Washington now has a son and was admitted to and played for a very conservative Christian university in Abilene Christian University. I would know, it is my alma-matter. Washington isn’t a child molester, he didn’t force this act and he has the full support of his ex-coaches and the university.
A CNBC article got Washington’s agent, Vann McElroy’s thoughts on the matter, “We spent hours of our time, providing letters, testimonials from people to tell this kid’s story,” McElroy said. “It isn’t like he’s some pervert hanging around in the bushes. He’s a good kid who screwed up, who since then was accepted by the board and admitted to one of the most conservative colleges out there.”
McElroy is an ex-Raider, having played with the team in Los Angeles from 1982-1990. He is also the agent of Stanford Routt.
Both his former coaches are willing to stick their reputations on the line for Washington, “I have no fear in my mind of anything like that happening with Tony again,” said college coach Chris Thomsen. “I wouldn’t have brought him here if I had that fear. And I have no reservations about anything like that happening again in his future.”
For a guy who registered the best broad jump at the 2010 NFL Scouting Combine and didn’t allow a sack during his college career, Tony Washington deserves a shot in the NFL.
He has owned up to his mistake and faced all the consequences. In my opinion, don’t punish this kid for a mistake he made when he was 16. Al Davis, if you read this, give your ex-player a call and give Tony Washington a chance.”
April 30th, 2010 at 3:21 am
Sorry at 15 you should know better will pass just like the rest of the NFL has.
April 30th, 2010 at 3:47 am
Nnamdi, Davis wasn’t right about anything. If you’re a HC in Oakland, it’s you or Al.
April 30th, 2010 at 3:54 am
USC “irrelevant”? Wow. The Davis kool aid drinkers have been known to reach, but this is bad for even them.
Ask ABC how irrelevant USC is.
Ask the companies that plan on buying spots during USC’s games this year.
Ask just about every single high school standout west of Notre Dame.
Want to talk about irrelevant, Tennessee is a lot closer to it than USC. And Kiffin’s employer before that? Well, thanks to Al Davis, they’re probably the closest thing the NFL has to an irrelevant team.
Kiffin is riding high, and you know it. USC is one of college football’s crown jewels, and you know it. Kiffin got the last laugh in a major way against Al by getting the USC job, and you know it.
April 30th, 2010 at 4:18 am
LMN…..
What now for Rafa?
April 30th, 2010 at 6:04 am
Seymour Bush Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
tonga Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
#3 q.b. for $30 something million, with your analysis HILL you could work in the scouting department.
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They’ve already paid him 80% of that money, which if you cut him would be a GUARANTEED WASTE. You bring in Campbell who has been thru EXACTLY the same thing Russell has, and let them duke both it out, with Grads in the wings. Winner takes all, and if one of them emerges as a solid NFL starter, how does the franchise screw up?
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Exactly the same thing???? Campbell completed 65% of his passes while getting sacked like 48 times with a bad OL. Campbell completed his season while everyone was trying to replace him all year long. Russell was given the keys in camp and even though he was terrible was not replaced until week 9. This is then kind of JR apologist crap that drives me crazy. Please face reality the guy sucks!!!! Look at game replays of last season – he is absolutly a horrendous QB. He looks lost out there. Yes he has a strong arm but that is about 10% of what needs to be considered here.
This is a waste of 6 more million that could be used to sign a FA DT or interior OL that will be wasted if we don’t cut him. He is the type of person that will fake an injury to get the extra 6 million.
April 30th, 2010 at 6:07 am
Is DMAC gone yet?
April 30th, 2010 at 6:07 am
As the last remaining Raider fan still supporting JRuss…hoping today is a new day for the kid. Here’s to JRuss going out on the field this mini camp and proving that one should not give up on a young 24 year QB for having 1 horrible season(One in which he played behind a terrible O-line nad had two rookiw receiver starting).
Im curious, has there ever been a team in the NFL that started 2 rookie wide receivers? If so, I would be curious as to how the QB of that team performed. I’m willing to bet that there has never been an NFL team that started 2 rooks at wideout for the first 7-8 games.
April 30th, 2010 at 6:09 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,CAN RUSSELL BE CUT AT ANY TIME OR AFTER JUNE 1ST ?
April 30th, 2010 at 6:14 am
Raider Nate
You are not the last Raider fan. There are plenty of them out there. I “love” the two rookie wR excuses. Did you watch the games? He was locking down on WRs – even the analysts on TV were showing this. He was not reading a progression and hiding his intentions like even a below average NFL QB can do. He could of had Moss and Owens out there. I mean they guy could not complete a screen pass! Have not we suffered enough with this dope. He has set back the franchise for 3 years with his nonsense.
Enough is enough! AD please surprise me again this offseason and cut the guy already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 30th, 2010 at 6:18 am
Dirt Lot
He can be cut between now and the begining of the season but everytime he is on the field he is an injury risk because if he is hurt he gets an the 6 million. Plus he is a huge distraction considering his poor performance.
April 30th, 2010 at 6:21 am
recap of yesterday’s NFL news:
Walter Jones & Jeff Feagles retired.
Redskins signed vet WR’s Bobby Wade & Joey Galloway
Kevin Kolb got a 1 year extension
doesn’t look like I missed much.
Jason Campbell to wear #8 ???
Jonathan Holland won’t make the 53 man roster, so i’m sure he can have #17 back before the season starts without giving up any money
April 30th, 2010 at 6:26 am
Now I can wish u happy bday, hillbilly.
April 30th, 2010 at 6:28 am
THANK’S AUTUMNWIND, WAS NOT SURE ABOUT THE TIMING.HE DEFINITLY HAS 2 GO ASAP WITH THE INJURY THING A POSSABILITY.. GOOD MORNING ROCKSTAR.
April 30th, 2010 at 6:29 am
You are not the last Raider fan. There are plenty of them out there. I “love” the two rookie wR excuses. Did you watch the games? He was locking down on WRs – even the analysts on TV were showing this. He was not reading a progression and hiding his intentions like even a below average NFL QB can do. He could of had Moss and Owens out there. I mean they guy could not complete a screen pass! Have not we suffered enough with this dope. He has set back the franchise for 3 years with his nonsense.
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YOu call it an excuse, but seriously Im curious, has it ever happened in the NFL before? Having 2 rooks at wideout start for the first 7-8 games? If it has, what was that teams record? How did the QB perform. I agree with all of the flaws you stated JRuss showed last year(locking onto primary receiver-not reading progressions-pocket awareness). All of thos flaws are correctable. And don’t give me if he hasn’t learn in his first 3 years he’ll never learn crap. Thats bull. He’s only 24 and has plenty of time to improve on his game.
I will never bring up starting 2 rooks at wideout again if someone can show me if its happened before and that team had success. If it has never happened before, then that makes it a valid excuse.
April 30th, 2010 at 6:35 am
good morning AM crew!
haha. thanks BSJ
April 30th, 2010 at 6:41 am
I GOT THE COFFEE ROCKSTAR. CAMPBELL DID NOT WANT 2 UPSET THE GREAT JONATHAN HOLLAND BY TRY’N 2 TAKE HIS NUMBER.HELL,1+7=8 ANYWAY…
April 30th, 2010 at 6:42 am
re: cutting Russell now or at final cuts (53 man roster)
here’s how I look at it…
1. he’s been rather durable in his first 3 NFL seasons and most off-season activity is non-contact
2. we’ve paid him LOADS of money for the past 3 seasons with nothing in return. make him work an extra 4 months!
3. if it truly is an open competition, let him compete. if he’s not one fo the Top 3 QB’s – let him loose (Campbell, Gradkowski & Frye were all better than him last year)
4. it’s not my money. I don’t care what Al Davis dishes out, as long as we start winning football games. If next year is uncapped, cut him then. If it’s this year only, then Davis has a tough decision to make (easy for us fans!). I wouldn’t care if Al Davis went on a spending spree this offseason, but when we have a cap in place it affects our ability to make a run at other players who might help us achieve our goals
April 30th, 2010 at 6:45 am
1+7=8 ANYWAY…
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great work Dirt Lot!
who was the last great Raiders QB to wear #8 ???
Culpepper? LOL
April 30th, 2010 at 6:47 am
Good post @193! Agree with all 4 points..especially the money issue. It amazes me how people talk about cap money and how much we pay a player..how much a player makes. Who cares? Its not our money, its big AL’s. AL had deep pockets and always overpays players. I can see if the extra 6 million a player make would prevent us from signing some FA. But thats not the case. If Al really wants a player, he has the dough to go get em.
This mini-camp and pre season camp should be very interesting!
April 30th, 2010 at 6:48 am
3. if it truly is an open competition, let him compete. if he’s not one fo the Top 3 QB’s – let him loose (Campbell, Gradkowski & Frye were all better than him last year)
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If Al can get him to renegotiate his contract to protect against injury losses — and if his lethargy is not infectious to the team — then give him the chance to make the other QBs look stellar.
I’m sure Southwick is telling JR’s agent to take a pay cut, and in return get one last chance at putting good film together to seduce a new team/sucker.
April 30th, 2010 at 6:54 am
RAY GUY..FEW REMEMBER HE WAS THE #3 ON A FEW OF THOSE MID 70′S TEAMS BEHIND STABLER AND DAVID HUMM.
April 30th, 2010 at 6:55 am
Trade DMAC for David Humm!
April 30th, 2010 at 6:55 am
Mornin’ mornin’ crew. Happy Bday RRS i caught a picture of you at a Tea Bagger rally last month, Rock Star:
http://24ahead.com/images/get-a-brain-morans.jpg
lol
April 30th, 2010 at 6:56 am
I’m sure Southwick is telling JR’s agent to take a pay cut, and in return get one last chance at putting good film together to seduce a new team/sucker.
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I don’t want to hear anything about Jason Campbell splitting reps with Russell.
Russell was third string last year and unless he’s drastically improved this offseason and Bruce & Charlie haven’t – he’s still 3rd string (well, maybe 4th or 5th now with Campbell & Boller in the mix)
I would like to see JR light it up late in preseason games throwing to Bodiford, Hubbard, Figurs, Watkins, Miller and that undrafted kid. with Barnes, Pears, Rodd, Parsons & Morris protecting him
Good Luck JaWalrus! if he can pull out one of these AGAINST ALL ODDS
April 30th, 2010 at 6:57 am
I went straight out & bought me some brans from a moran!
April 30th, 2010 at 6:58 am
thanks TW.
couldn’t see that pic, but I’m sure it was a good one
you’ve got the dough man. how about an autographed Ted Nugent guitar ???
April 30th, 2010 at 7:00 am
How about a J Russel signed jersey, mispelled of course & in gravy! lol
April 30th, 2010 at 7:00 am
everything is better with gravy on it!
April 30th, 2010 at 7:02 am
What do you think Tebow is going to be signed for $40 mil? $48 mil? I’d love to see the Donkeys go thru what we just did. lol
April 30th, 2010 at 7:04 am
RAIDERTW,WHO SIGNED IT ? WE KNOW RUSSELL DIDNT PUSH AWAY FROM THE BUFFETT LONG ENOUGH TO DO IT.
April 30th, 2010 at 7:04 am
Morning Nation!
April 30th, 2010 at 7:06 am
I’d love to see the Donkeys go thru what we just did.
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me too!
Josh McDaniels is a joke. won’t be long before he alienates Dumervil, Clady, Dawkins & Bailey
just like Cutler, Marshall, Scheffler & Mike Nolan
April 30th, 2010 at 7:08 am
That’s the bonus, DIRT-LOT, there’s teeth marks when they had to rip it away from him using a key lime pie for distraction.
mornin’ 4eva.
April 30th, 2010 at 7:09 am
I know everyone is over the draft, but I’m still stoked with the McClain pick, found a nice article biut him from last season:
from espn.com:
TUSCALOOSA, Ala. — If the Big Defensive Coordinator in the Sky wanted to sculpt the modern middle linebacker, No. 3 Alabama junior Rolando McClain just may be his prototype: He is 6-foot-4, 258 pounds, and the way his cable-like limbs are connected by a strong torso, he could be mistaken for a small forward. Senior cornerback Javier Arenas described what it’s like as a tackler when McClain arrives to finish off the guy with the ball.
When Rolando McClain sizes up a running back, that ball carrier is going to feel the impact.
“You black out for a second,” Arenas said, “and try to figure out what truck hit you. You see him walking away. OK, it’s him.”
Crimson Tide H-back Preston Dial makes room for Heisman candidate Mark Ingram. Dial knows how to open holes. It is his station in life to block McClain three days a week. He’s considering an easier line of work, like being Brock Lesnar’s sparring partner.
“Not only are his legs real strong,” Dial said of McClain, “but he’s so physical with his hands in shedding blockers. He never stays blocked. You have to stop the linebacker’s charge and switch his momentum. He’s so violent when he comes and meets you in the hole, all you hope for is a stalemate. Instead of the running back picking his hole, Ro makes the decision for the running back which way he is going to go.”
Yet McClain’s physical skills are not the main reason he leads one of the nation’s best defenses with 57 tackles. His ability to deliver a blow isn’t why he’s a semifinalist for the Lombardi Award.
There are moments on the practice field when McClain takes a play off. That’s not to say that McClain would ever line up and not give everything he can possibly give, whether it’s Saturday in Bryant-Denny Stadium against No. 9 LSU, Tuesday on the practice field or a July Wednesday in a 7-on-7 drill. McClain would take his uniform off before he would take a play off.
But there are times in practice when the coaches take McClain out of a drill to give a younger guy some work. McClain takes the play off. On those occasions, more often than not, McClain will not trot over to the sideline, grab a water bottle and chat up his teammates. McClain will walk to the middle of the field to stand alongside head coach Nick Saban.
Saban will watch the drill with his arms crossed. McClain will watch the drill with his arms crossed.
When McClain, consciously or not, adopts Saban’s posture, it is physical confirmation of what everyone within Alabama football already understands. Ro McClain is Nick Saban writ large — and fast and explosive. “Coach on the field” may be a cliché. With McClain, it fits. He may have a football-hot body but McClain is loved by his coaches and his teammates for his mind.
“It’s unbelievable how much he understands the game,” fellow linebacker Cory Reamer said. “The second part is how well he knows the defense. He really knows what Coach would like to go to in the situations we get it and he really does a good job communicating it.”
On offense, when quarterback Greg McElroy calls an audible, the center changes the blocking scheme for the offensive line, and the backs and wide receivers signal one another their changes. On defense, when McClain calls an audible, he makes the changes for the defensive linemen, the secondary and the linebackers.
“Some guys understand their position. But I would venture to guess Ro knows what every player is supposed to do on every play on defense.”
– Alabama coach Nick Saban
Clemson defensive coordinator Kevin Steele, who held that position at Alabama the previous two seasons, has coached linebackers on the major college level and in the NFL for more than two decades.
“He’s got that gift of being able to analytically process information and react to it as fast as any guy I’ve ever been around,” Steele said. “There are a lot of ways to teach players — in the classroom, on the board, with video, practice reps. Some guys have to do it full speed. You can pass Rolando in the hall and say, ‘In this formation, in this defense we need to do this,’ and it’s done.
“I’ve never coached but two like that,” Steele said. “One of them was Sam Mills, who played 12 years in the NFL and was All-Pro several times. And Rolando.”
Sitting at his desk on a recent hectic, game-planning Monday, Saban paused to explain what makes McClain’s grasp of defense different from most players. If his defensive playbook were a math text, it would be calculus. McClain knows it like a Tuscaloosa first-grader knows that two plus two equals 3rd-and-6.
“Some guys understand their position,” Saban said. “But I would venture to guess Ro knows what every player is supposed to do on every play on defense, and he knows like I know who didn’t do right, and when he didn’t do right, sometimes immediately.”
Asked to define McClain’s football intelligence for an audience that hasn’t played, Saban used baseball.
“You can teach a hitter where the strike zone is,” Saban said. “You can even teach him how to swing a bat. But you really can’t teach him [how to judge] a ball or a strike from the time it leaves the pitcher’s hand until it gets to home plate. The guy’s got to figure that out on his own and make an” — Saban snapped his fingers — “almost athletic intuition decision, that this is a good pitch to hit.
“Even though we’re not playing baseball, from a football-playing standpoint, Ro would be … ” Saban thought for a second.
“Albert Pujols?”
It would be a great story to say that McClain sought out Saban, that he came to Tuscaloosa from his hometown of Decatur, Ala., to scratch an intellectual itch. It would be a great story. It would be fiction.
“When I came here, he told me if I wanted to play my freshman year, I had to learn the defense,” McClain said. He began to laugh. “I wanted to play.”
That they came together at all is a happy accident. McClain committed to Alabama to play for Saban’s predecessor, Mike Shula. All McClain knew about Saban was that he had won a national championship at LSU. Saban knew McClain had been one of the nation’s top high school linebackers at Decatur High. But he didn’t get to know him until the freshmen reported to campus in the summer of 2007.
Saban met a young man ready to compete. As McClain helped lead Decatur High to the state Final Four in basketball, he also continued working out for football.
“He understood when he committed to Alabama that, ‘Hey, I have a chance to play early,’” Decatur High head football coach Jere Adcock said. “He and Caleb Thomas, who’s a guard at UAB now, would come up here after basketball practice and lift weights.”
Adcock said he has had players who pushed themselves as hard as McClain. “They’re undersized,” he said. “To see a kid of that size and that ability push himself to that level is why he has elevated himself.”
McClain beat out a returning starter, sophomore Prince Hall, and started the opener as a true freshman. The season had its bumps. McClain started eight games. Saban, who drives his players and coaches as hard as he drives himself, learned not to yell at McClain.
“It didn’t do any good,” Saban said. He recognizes the obsession.
“I’m so competitive,” McClain said. “I want to be the best at everything I do. Growing up, I wanted to be the smartest, wanted to be the best swimmer, whatever it was we were doing. Against everybody, anything I did. Whether it was in the classroom or whatever, I always wanted to be the best. I’m hard on myself. I know I’m not perfect and I know I’m never going to be perfect. At the same time, I can always work and be better because I want to get there. Coach says I’m too much of a perfectionist.”
If Nick Saban thinks you’re too much of a perfectionist, you might think about taking it down a notch. When McClain comes off the field distraught after missing a tackle, Saban is the one who tells him to let it go.
Saban wouldn’t have McClain any other way.
“That’s a tremendous asset, as long as you can keep channeling it in the right direction,” Saban said.
In McClain’s case, that direction is usually toward the line of scrimmage with ill will on his mind.
April 30th, 2010 at 7:10 am
Man I’m chomping at the bit!
we ready 2 turn the corner,i can just feel it!!!!!!!
April 30th, 2010 at 7:10 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 6:42 am
re: cutting Russell now or at final cuts (53 man roster)
here’s how I look at it…
1. he’s been rather durable in his first 3 NFL seasons and most off-season activity is non-contact
2. we’ve paid him LOADS of money for the past 3 seasons with nothing in return. make him work an extra 4 months!
3. if it truly is an open competition, let him compete. if he’s not one fo the Top 3 QB’s – let him loose (Campbell, Gradkowski & Frye were all better than him last year)
4. it’s not my money. I don’t care what Al Davis dishes out, as long as we start winning football games. If next year is uncapped, cut him then. If it’s this year only, then Davis has a tough decision to make (easy for us fans!). I wouldn’t care if Al Davis went on a spending spree this offseason, but when we have a cap in place it affects our ability to make a run at other players who might help us achieve our goals
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You’re getting smarter as you get older
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April 30th, 2010 at 7:13 am
Wow, my Bday is in 6 days, no wonder RRS & I go at it, we are both stubborn as hell Taurus! Hookem horns! lol
April 30th, 2010 at 7:16 am
Rockstar,
hope you had a fine b’day.
you didn’t miss anything here. the usual suspects in the P.M. got access to computers in whatever mental institutions they’re housed in and proceeded to have their daily meltdowns.
R8der4life had a good post about a draftee named Rolle and BoSJack sent along a link to Raider UDFAs.
also Bri@n said his cousin saw JCamp hanging out with his new WR teammates DHB and Murphy at dinner in Jack London Square.
April 30th, 2010 at 7:16 am
You’re getting smarter as you get older
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thanks Jhill!
I’d still trade JaWalrus for a 2012 conditional 7th rounder, but I wouldn’t cut him just yet
I’d even trade him to St Louis or Cleveland for a waiver claim …
April 30th, 2010 at 7:17 am
The interesting thing about the Russell saga is Coach Cable has been saying at every opportunity that Russell has been at the facility working on his game and working with his team mates. Even last weekend, he reiterated the same thing.
From that other guy’s blog …
“Quarterback JaMarcus Russell has been working out at the Raiders facility all week and is expected to be at the team’s minicamp today.”
April 30th, 2010 at 7:19 am
day-late
dollar-short.imo
April 30th, 2010 at 7:19 am
Why would they let him work out all this time at the facility risking that phantom injury, and then try and bar him today?
Al hasn’t given up on Russell yet.
April 30th, 2010 at 7:19 am
thanks M!
i’m not surprised that Jason Campbell is making an early attempt to connect with his coaches & teammates. thats the way it should be.
Having him around other gym rats & film junkies like Bruce & Charlie can only be a good thing. Russell will quickly become the “odd man out” barring an Al Davis scholarship
April 30th, 2010 at 7:20 am
of course he already got like 35 mil or something
the damage is done….
Cut that fat-fukk
April 30th, 2010 at 7:20 am
Awwww 4eva …
CMON dogg!
Somebody has to cover for Bruce Almighty while he’s hurt!
April 30th, 2010 at 7:21 am
Yep hope you had a GREAT B-Day Raiderrockstar
April 30th, 2010 at 7:22 am
Somebody has to cover for Bruce Almighty while he’s hurt!
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Kyle Boller!
April 30th, 2010 at 7:23 am
thanks 4eva
it was
glad your boy Lamarr Houston is here. hope he’s the run clogger we’ve been waiting for
at DE, DT wherever!
April 30th, 2010 at 7:23 am
true That Jhill
its just #2 has sh!t all over the team,organization and the Nation long enough,imo
I
April 30th, 2010 at 7:25 am
Marley Esq.,
reading the post detailing Rolando McClain makes me wonder about the teams drafting ahead of the Raiders last week.
when there is a chance to get a franchise MLB why pass him up?
April 30th, 2010 at 7:28 am
Rockstar….
I must admit I was suprised when Cable said he was gonna play DE….
WOW a 305 lbs DE.He must be quick as a cat!
I know Seymour is 310 0r something but he is 6-6,and LaMarr is 6-2 or 6-3.He was listet at 6-2 at Texas so maybe this AWESOME athlete is still growing!
April 30th, 2010 at 7:30 am
4eva –
Lamarr Houston is a former star running back, linebacker, basketball player and track athlete
April 30th, 2010 at 7:32 am
Yep the MAN is truely a STUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I didnt know all of that before the draft.I just thought he was the BEST DT in the NCAA
April 30th, 2010 at 7:34 am
BBL Nation!
April 30th, 2010 at 7:40 am
4eva,
So you don’t believe Cable when he says that Russell has been at the facility working out and working with his teammates the last 2 or 3 weeks?
April 30th, 2010 at 7:49 am
Hmmmm….thats a tough one Jhill.He may be there but I have a very hard time believing he is anywhere around work of any kind
April 30th, 2010 at 7:50 am
# neilb Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 4:18 am
LMN…..
What now for Rafa?
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shut up =) send him to juventus, and LFC should hire Michael Laudrup =) LOL
April 30th, 2010 at 7:50 am
ooooops he is prolly “working” up an apatite
April 30th, 2010 at 7:52 am
So do we get a soap-opera today, or all quiet on the homefront?
April 30th, 2010 at 7:53 am
all jokes aside for a second here …
You really think we are running the type of ship that would allow Russell to be at the facility all this time in an “asst coach” or “ball boy” or ” go for” mode?
Or are you suggesting that he’s just being allowed to “mingle” while everyone else is “working”?
April 30th, 2010 at 7:53 am
4eva,
in your work with the Raider WR corps did you pass along instructions telling them to hold onto every pass from Campbell, Boller and Frye but if JaMumble for some reason throws a pass they should drop it without hesitation?
April 30th, 2010 at 7:55 am
All quiet so far Vegas …
NFL Network ran shots of McClain and Houston at the facility, in the locker room, etc …
Nothing on your boy yet.
April 30th, 2010 at 7:56 am
M Lonetree….
I am not at liberty 2 divuldge that info at this time
April 30th, 2010 at 7:57 am
jhill Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 7:40 am
4eva,
So you don’t believe Cable when he says that Russell has been at the facility working out and working with his teammates the last 2 or 3 weeks?
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JaLoser has taken over the pizza delivery duties from Rob Ryan Order 12 and 6 get to the facility.
April 30th, 2010 at 7:59 am
Hey EXLA….good 2C ya!
what do you think of our draft?
April 30th, 2010 at 8:08 am
Maybe this is Classic Al, Jamarcus messed with him so now Al gonna let Japrecious dangle not now what his future is then cut him when it best suits Al.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 30th, 2010 at 8:08 am
you got your wish NoMoreFargas….time 2 change your name!
April 30th, 2010 at 8:11 am
BBL Nation!
April 30th, 2010 at 8:12 am
Nothing on your boy yet.
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Unacceptable. I need more info. Where’s Pedro Gomez when you need him? I want to know what he ate for breakfast, what car he drove into the facility, what he wore…..
April 30th, 2010 at 8:14 am
Things I expect to hear from jerry’s twitter account today:
“No sign of Russell”
“No sign of Al Davis”
“DHB drops an easy one”
“Louis Murphy makes another great play”
“Cable is spending a lot of time with the offensive line”
“Campbell wearing number 17″
“Some new guy out there wearing #82, not sure who it is”
April 30th, 2010 at 8:18 am
Heyward-Bey is gonna turn more heads than stomachs this year ..
April 30th, 2010 at 8:19 am
This is how I see the front 4 that will stop any kind of running game
Shaughnessy – 270lbs
Houston – 305lbs
Heard – 355lbs
Seymour – 310lbs
With that much meat in front and are speed LB’s no one is running on us
April 30th, 2010 at 8:19 am
—”In addition to fourth-round OL Bruce Campbell, third-rounder Jared Veldheer “will have every opportunity” to win a starting job this year. A skyscraper from tiny Hillsdale College at 6′8/312, Veldheer has been lauded by many as a high-upside sleeper pick. Drawing comparisons to Pats OT Sebastian Vollmer, Veldheer will have to outplay Campbell and veteran Khalif Barnes for the starting right tackle job”—
April 30th, 2010 at 8:20 am
When season starts and no Fargas then I will change it till then I’m still scared the will pick him up. Actually read someone say Fargas not getting to retire a Raider was the worst thing Al has ever done, HA HA HA HA, how many SB or MVP did ol Justin win hell how many winning seasons but hey he sure could run into a pile like nobody else or get 1 yrd on the 2
April 30th, 2010 at 8:22 am
Maybe, WR learn to run better routes but you either have good hands or don’t and DHB for as hard working and classy sure looks to have some Dudley type hands hope he is good but not really expecting anything.
April 30th, 2010 at 8:22 am
Trade Jammy to Dallas for WR Patrick Crayton…
April 30th, 2010 at 8:23 am
Vegas,
one year when I was living in Colorado I read that over the course of the then just passed 365 days there had been articles in the newspaper (Denver Post I believe it was) about John Elway in 360 of the 365 editions.
Sickening.
reportage here in NorCal is at a different pace than that.
April 30th, 2010 at 8:23 am
LMN,
Did you hear about our great country allowing racial profiling?!?!?!
April 30th, 2010 at 8:27 am
We don’t have to keep taking this crap as minorities (in terms of power and resources)!!
Fight for our Rights!!!! Tell Whitey to go EFF himself?!
Why Whitey?! I don’t think minorities passed the law in AZ!!!!
April 30th, 2010 at 8:27 am
Yes better watch your back and your comments Raider O.
All eyes on you Lizard King!!!!
April 30th, 2010 at 8:27 am
# RaiderNate Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 6:29 am
You are not the last Raider fan. There are plenty of them out there. I “love” the two rookie wR excuses. Did you watch the games? He was locking down on WRs – even the analysts on TV were showing this. He was not reading a progression and hiding his intentions like even a below average NFL QB can do. He could of had Moss and Owens out there. I mean they guy could not complete a screen pass! Have not we suffered enough with this dope. He has set back the franchise for 3 years with his nonsense.
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YOu call it an excuse, but seriously Im curious, has it ever happened in the NFL before? Having 2 rooks at wideout start for the first 7-8 games? If it has, what was that teams record? How did the QB perform. I agree with all of the flaws you stated JRuss showed last year(locking onto primary receiver-not reading progressions-pocket awareness). All of thos flaws are correctable. And don’t give me if he hasn’t learn in his first 3 years he’ll never learn crap. Thats bull. He’s only 24 and has plenty of time to improve on his game.
I will never bring up starting 2 rooks at wideout again if someone can show me if its happened before and that team had success. If it has never happened before, then that makes it a valid excuse.
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The last team to start two rookie receivers were the 2000 Cinny Bungholes I believe. That was the “Heistman” Peter Warrick/Dugan receiving tandem QB’d by Akili Smith. Smith regressed badlythat year completing less than 50% of his passes, the “Heistman” had a decent season as a rookie WR. The team finished 4-12. So if anything it confirms your post.
On an interesting note, it looks like Raheem Morris the HC of Tampon Bay is going with the Al DAvis 2 rookie WR’s this year. Might as well get the pain out of the way the theory goes.
April 30th, 2010 at 8:27 am
OK!! I feel better now.
April 30th, 2010 at 8:28 am
So where’s the best place to follow camp today? Jerry’s tweets?
April 30th, 2010 at 8:29 am
Kill kill kill the white man!
April 30th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Mike Waufle’s D-Line last year:
Tuck, Robbins, Cofield, Umenyiora, Kiwanuka, Canty, Bernard & Tollefson
Mike Waufle’s LB Corps last year:
Boley, Pierce, Clark, Blackburn, Sintim, Wilkinson
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think he can have similar success with the following???
D-Line: Seymour, Kelly, Houston, Shaughnessy, Bryant, Richardson, Heard, Gunheim
LB Corps: Scott, McClain, Wimbley, Groves, Howard, Goethel
April 30th, 2010 at 8:31 am
Vegas,
I’m sick of this crap!!
It started with Native American, Blacks, Irish, Mexicans, and Arabs!!
Fight for your Rights!!!!!
EFF Them Vegas!! I’m the Lizard King, and I will say everything!! lol
April 30th, 2010 at 8:31 am
Humm would still be playing if the Bears hadn’t knocked fillings out of his head.
April 30th, 2010 at 8:32 am
LMAO Dakota!!
I blame the white man for everything! lol
April 30th, 2010 at 8:32 am
Trade Jammy to Dallas for WR Patrick Crayton…
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trade “Jammy” to Dallas for a box of crayons…
April 30th, 2010 at 8:32 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 7:32 am
Yep the MAN is truely a STUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I didnt know all of that before the draft.I just thought he was the BEST DT in the NCAA
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Ndamakung Suh is probably the best tackle prospect to come out in a decade or more and Gerald McCoy is a very close second. Hard to say that Houston is in that class but he is very close. This draft has a bumper crop of defensive linemen and we got a very good one, no doubt.
April 30th, 2010 at 8:32 am
DHB is going to be the Jerry Mac camp winner this year.
Or will he go with a defensive player for the first time?
April 30th, 2010 at 8:33 am
LMAO!:
Hear me out: The Browns should sign JaMarcus Russell
by Bernie19Kosar on
“Trust me, I thought the same thing you are thinking right now.
No way freaking way do I want JaMarcus Russell as a Brown, unless it is as a LT. But I couldn’t shake it the thought of it. Should the Browns take a chance on signing the greatest draft bust of all time?
Yep, and here is how I got here.
First of all, why did JaMarcus fail in Oakland?
I am not going to make excuses for his lack of conditioning and overall apathy towards his job as a NFL quarterback. That is troublesome. Could he fix this? Sure, and he wouldn’t be the first QB to need a fresh start in order to start taking his job seriously. Hell, Brett Favre couldn’t stop partying and drinking in Atlanta. He needed someone to turn his career around. See where I am headed?
I am not expecting JaMarcus to show up at training camp at 225lbs, but I think that we may see a young kid who got a cold dose of reality. Oakland is going to cut him and he is going to have to go begging for a job in the NFL. He will be on his last chance. I have a hunch that could be what wakes JaMarcus up.
If he looks at this situation and doesn’t get his fat ass in shape, then he will be out of the NFL in under two seasons.
As for the rest of his situation, I see it like this; It wasn’t all his fault.
Peyton Manning had Marvin Harrison and Edge.
Carson Palmer had Chad Ochocinco and TJ Houshyourmama.
Eli Manning had Plaxico Burress and Tiki Barber.
JaMarcus Russell had Darren McFadden and DHB.
What number one pick got a complete shaft job?
What about his offensive line?
His LT’s have been Barry Sims, Kwame Harris and Mario Henderson.
His LG’s has been Robert Gallery
His C’s have been Jereme Newberry, Jake Grove, Samson Satele
His RG has been Cooper Carlise
His RT’s have Paul McQuistan, Cornell Green
In three seasons he has had 10 different starting offensive lineman. Not only have the been 10 different guys, but for the most part, they suck. So no weapons, no offensive line and the QB sucks. Chicken or the egg? Of course JaMarcus failed. He was in freaking Oakland. Who has done anything there since Rich Gannon? What Raider, other than Nnamdi, has done anything in Oakland? Are we really going to blame Russell for playing with garbage around him? Did his back-ups do that much better than him?
What about the coaching that Russell has played under?
Russell has never had any coaching. His offensive coordinators have been Greg Knapp and Ted Tollner. Not exactly the greatest passing minds there. Two offensive coordinators in three seasons? How is that even remotely fair to him? So a consistently fluctuating coaching staff and a horrendous supporting staff.
Of course, maybe he just sucks. Good thing he will be cheap.
Why should the Browns sign him?
•Mike Freakin’ Holmgren. I know he said that he is no longer a coach. But wouldn’t this be his greatest test? Wouldn’t this be the capper on a HOF career? He could take Russell under his wing for two years, teach him how to play the position the correct way. Actually try and give this kid a shot.
•You are probably saying, “Hey moron, we already drafted a QB”. I have already gone over why expecting anything out of a QB drafted after the first round is a really bad idea. Colt McCoy may be the best QB ever to pick up a football {closes eyes and prays}, but the odds are that he is going to be nothing special. Russell would give the Browns a plan B. Best case scenario, Russell lights up preseason and actually makes a trade market for himself. We are talking about a league where Tyler Thigpen was traded for a draft pick.
•Signing Russell would give the Browns four QB’s on the roster. Even with the emergency roster spot of the third QB, carrying four QB’s is a crazy thought. Good thing the Browns have a QB on the roster that can play WR. Let Wallace play some WR while he is the back-up. Sure it is a gamble, but its not like we are really going to be winning very many games this season.
•No one has ever doubted Russell’s tools. He has an arm that could be the best ever to be on a NFL field. He has the frame (minus the tonnage) that GM’s dream of. He struggled at times at LSU, but his junior season was on par with Jimmy Clausen’s junior season. Shouldn’t that count for something? He has the talent, he is just waiting for someone to help him find it.
•JaMarcus Russell is one month older than Colt McCoy. That’s it. 25 days. Russell is still a baby. We have no idea what kind of QB Russell can be. He still has 12 years left in this league. Are you willing to put the nail in his coffin before his 25th birthday? Look at how many QB’s struggle early in their careers just to have the light bulb go on later on in their careers? Wouldn’t Holmgren be the best person to try?
•Who cares if he shows up lazy and fat? If he comes in and keeps up with the slack ass ways, cut him. Send him packing. Adios. No skin off our back. We go into the season with Delhomme, Wallace and McCoy. You could even structure his contract in a manner that he doesn’t get paid unless he makes the team. No pressure on the Browns, make JaMarcus earn it. It would give us a good idea on whether or not he plans on busting it.
I’m not saying that it would be a good signing. It could be a Maurice Clarett like blow-up. But the talent of Russell and the genius of Holmgren is, in my opinion, to powerful of a possible combination to pass up.
What do you think Brown fans? You in on Russell?”
April 30th, 2010 at 8:34 am
4evaRaider Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 7:59 am
Hey EXLA….good 2C ya!
what do you think of our draft?
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I thought our draft was way beyond expectations and the trades and signings have made me optimistic. If they stick to the plan and don’t weaken, and cut JaLoser, it will have been the best offseason in years.
April 30th, 2010 at 8:34 am
It’s a GREAT day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
JaMarcus will either re-do his contract in a hurry, or he’ll be gone in a hurry. Do NOT be surprised if JaMarcus is on the roster on Monday. Now way he’s a backup for $9+ Mil this year…but quite possible if he makes a smaller salary with a smaller bonus than the one he was expecting.
JaMarcus on the “cheap” is worth hanging onto…he may have some fight in him yet. My money’s on the team getting the vibe they want from Campbell and Grads…the vibe a real pro QB brings with him. If so, and JaMarcus hasn’t grown in a hurry (and shrunk!), he’ll be getting his $3 Mil walking papers pretty quickly.
McClain’s going to excite this Defense — he’s going to excite everybody!
Johnny Holland should’ve never been moved to DB, he’s as good as JLH. And JLH better get it in gear in a hurry this year, because more than Holland want his job.
What a great weekend!
April 30th, 2010 at 8:34 am
# Raider O Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 8:23 am
LMN,
Did you hear about our great country allowing racial profiling?!?!?!
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of course i have, Stewart and Colbert been talking about it a lot…
Just read that Shakira was mad at you, she is like going jack baur on you =)
April 30th, 2010 at 8:37 am
Bernie is a drunk.
April 30th, 2010 at 8:38 am
Raider O,
I used to live in Phoenix. At that time, it was the fifth largest city in the United States… NOT COUNTING illegal mexican immigrants. Trust me, just as many minorities (except for hispanics) voted for those new AZ laws as white did (by percentage). It still doesn’t make the laws constitutional, though. The should be struck down for violating civil rights via racial profiling… but nevertheless, that doesn’t mean that non-hispanic minorities didn’t vote for those new laws… trust me, EVERYONE hates the illegals in AZ, not just whitey.
April 30th, 2010 at 8:39 am
Can’t beleive were going w/ a big NT on the DL considering the draft and free agency, looks like a line made up of interchangeable, athletic 3-4 DE types in a 4-3 D
April 30th, 2010 at 8:39 am
I would not let the stench of Russell pollute the excitement in the Raider camp. 1 rotten apple in a barrel rots the rest.
Cut JaLoser now and be done with his fat sorry arse!!!!!!!
April 30th, 2010 at 8:40 am
His RT’s have Paul McQuistan, Cornell Green
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McQ backed up both LT & LG since JaWalrus took over.
Marten was backup RT in 2008. Pears in 2009
April 30th, 2010 at 8:42 am
Raider O Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 8:31 am
Vegas,
I’m sick of this crap!!
It started with Native American, Blacks, Irish, Mexicans, and Arabs!!
Fight for your Rights!!!!!
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You do have to Fight for your Rights! And you also have to Fight For Your Right to Paaaarty!
April 30th, 2010 at 8:42 am
Holland as good as Higgins?
LOL!
good one HD37.
do not hate on my boy JLH!
April 30th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Raider O, here is some information on law you are crying about.
It simply adopts current federal law as state law. It does not allow racial profiling, it only allows a search into a person’s immigration status when there has been contact by law enforcement with the individual in the course of investigation a crime or trafic stop. Yes, if a cop sees you driving with your top down and your keffiyeh blowing in the wind and you are going 56 in a 55 they can pull you over and deport your ass…I LOVE IT! Here is the info:
“Understanding Arizona’s Immigration Law
Source – Center for Immigration Studies :
The new law recently signed by the governor of Arizona, SB 1070, makes it a state crime to violate some federal immigration statutes. While the law is extremely popular in the state, with 70 percent of Arizona voters approving of it and just 23 percent opposed, it has raised controversy. Below is a brief summary of the relevant information on illegal immigration in Arizona, followed by a short analysis of SB 1070’s major provisions.
Illegal immigration in Arizona:
•The federal government estimated that Arizona had one of the fastest growing illegal immigrant populations in the country, increasing from 330,000 in 2000 to 560,000 by 2008.1
•Arizona has adopted other laws to deter the settlement of illegal immigrants in the state in recent years. The federal government estimates that the illegal immigrant population dropped by 18 percent in the state from 2008 to 2009, compared to a 7 percent drop for the nation as a whole.2 This may be evidence that the state enforcement efforts are having an impact.
•The Maricopa County Attorney’s Office has found that 22 percent of felonies in the county are committed by illegal immigrants.3 Illegal immigrants are estimated to be 10 percent of the county’s adult population.4
•Analysis of data from State Criminal Alien Assistance Program showed that illegal immigrants were 11 percent of the state’s prison population. Illegal immigrants were estimated to be 8 percent of state’s adult population at the time of the analysis.5
•Approximately 17 percent of those arrested by the Border Patrol in its Tucson Sector have criminal records in the United States.6
•The issue of illegal immigration and crime is very difficult to measure, and while in Arizona there is evidence that illegal immigrants are committing a disproportionate share of crime, it is not clear this is the case nationally.7
•In 2007, the Center for Immigration Studies estimated that 12 percent of workers in the Arizona are illegal immigrants.8
•In 2007, the Center estimated that illegal immigrants and their U.S.-born children (under 18) comprise one-fifth of those in the state living in poverty, one-third of those without health insurance, and one out of six students in the state’s schools.9
•In 2007, the Center estimated that one-third of households headed by illegal immigrants in Arizona used at least one major welfare program, primarily food-assistance programs or Medicaid. Benefits were typically received on behalf of U.S.-born children.10
•The new law (SB 1070) is extremely popular among Arizona voters. A Rasmussen poll found that 70 percent of voters approve of the new bill, and just 23 percent oppose it.11
Among the new law’s provisions:
•The new Arizona law mirrors federal law, which already requires aliens (non-citizens) to register and carry their documents with them (8 USC 1304(e) and 8 USC 1306(a)). The new Arizona law simply states that violating federal immigration law is now a state crime as well. Because illegal immigrants are by definition in violation of federal immigration laws, they can now be arrested by local law enforcement in Arizona.
•The law is designed to avoid the legal pitfall of “pre-emption,” which means a state can’t adopt laws that conflict with federal laws. By making what is a federal violation also a state violation, the Arizona law avoids this problem.
•The law only allows police to ask about immigration status in the normal course of “lawful contact” with a person, such as a traffic stop or if they have committed a crime.
•Estimates from the federal government indicate that more than 80 percent of illegal immigrants come from Latin America.12 Thus, there is concern that police may target only Hispanics for enforcement.
•Before asking a person about immigration status, law enforcement officials are required by the law to have “reasonable suspicion” that a person is an illegal immigrant. The concept of “reasonable suspicion” is well established by court rulings. Since Arizona does not issue driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants, having a valid license creates a presumption of legal status. Examples of reasonable suspicion include:
◦A driver stopped for a traffic violation has no license, or record of a driver’s license or other form of federal or state identification.
◦A police officer observes someone buying fraudulent identity documents or crossing the border illegally.
◦A police officer recognizes a gang member back on the street who he knows has been previously deported by the federal government.
•The law specifically states that police, “may not solely consider race, color or national origin” when implementing SB 1070.
•When Arizona’s governor signed the new law, she also issued an executive order requiring the Arizona Peace Officer Standards and Training Board to provide local police with additional training on what does and what does not constitute “reasonable suspicion.”13″
April 30th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Dakota, I think thats a great idea, let fat holmgren get fat jammy and let them fall together…
April 30th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Brad Hoover, Muhsin Muhammad & John Henderson please!
PLAYOFFS!?!
April 30th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Steve,
Don’t try to make this a logical debate!
I want to blame the White Man, so let me do it. It makes me feel better. lol
April 30th, 2010 at 8:48 am
Nothing says Nazi like “Show me your papers!”
AZ will be bankrupt with legal citizens suing after being pulled over for having their hat backwards!
Mornin’ Dakota, LMN, Raider O, everyone…
April 30th, 2010 at 8:49 am
I hope this is the year I get to talk sh to all the haters about this year and not always have to resort to “how many superbowls you guys got”
April 30th, 2010 at 8:49 am
I thought I was the only AM crew racist?
what gives???
you other guys better scram !!!
April 30th, 2010 at 8:49 am
Dakota Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 8:29 am
Kill kill kill the white man!
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Dark and lonely on a summer’s night.
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
Watchdog barking. Do he bite?
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
Slip in his window. Break his neck.
Then his house I start to wreck.
Got no reason. What the heck?
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
C-I-L-L my land lord!
April 30th, 2010 at 8:49 am
Dakota,
Dude, stop it!! It called Racial Profiling!!!
You don’t know what that means!! You are White!
April 30th, 2010 at 8:51 am
LMN, did you see Colbert show that’s why America keeps it sh!ttiest states down by the border?
April 30th, 2010 at 8:51 am
trust me, EVERYONE hates the illegals in AZ, not just whitey.
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I have to say I agree with that. My mom moved back from Az about 5 years ago, and I still can’t get her to stop saying “those Mexicans”, “those illegals”, etc.
Even when I remind her of how much she complained about being a young black girl suffering through the same type of “comments” growing up in Houston, Texas, lol!
April 30th, 2010 at 8:51 am
Raider O Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 8:49 am
Dakota,
Dude, stop it!! It called Racial Profiling!!!
You don’t know what that means!! You are White!
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I know what it means, I have hot native american chicks profiling me all the time.
April 30th, 2010 at 8:52 am
do not hate on my boy JLH!
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Who ?????
April 30th, 2010 at 8:53 am
Kevin Mawae, Al get him, but of course you wont get a union guy, he knows all the rules you are breaking…
what a pity, we could sure use him…
April 30th, 2010 at 8:53 am
Dakota,
When was the last time you were checked 7 times in an airport?!
When was the last time police stopes you because you were driving a nice car, so they thought you were a drug dealer?!
When was the last time you were stopped because the police think you are illegal immigrant.
April 30th, 2010 at 8:53 am
that article by the Browns fan is pure comedy, my favorite line was his hopes of Russell lighting it up in the pre-season. Yeah, that would be something. Cut this loser, so he can be left alone to continue his descent towards physical and financial ruin.
April 30th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Hey TW, I thought you had moved to Cuba or something….long time, no see.
April 30th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Going to be a great weekend.
We get the begining of the soap opera that is an Oakland Raiders season. A couple of sweet game 6’s tonight, going to see Joel McHale at the Mandalay, and than a closed-circuit viewing party for the fight tomorrow.
Super-stoked!! Only issue, going to turn in my stuff to my job today, which means the trusty laptop is going back, and thus no blogging from the strip anymore.
April 30th, 2010 at 8:56 am
# RaiderTW Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 8:51 am
LMN, did you see Colbert show that’s why America keeps it sh!ttiest states down by the border?
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yup, LOL, its funny because its true, as my friend Homer would say =)
April 30th, 2010 at 8:56 am
The last team to start two rookie receivers were the 2000 Cinny Bungholes I believe. That was the “Heistman” Peter Warrick/Dugan receiving tandem QB’d by Akili Smith. Smith regressed badlythat year completing less than 50% of his passes, the “Heistman” had a decent season as a rookie WR. The team finished 4-12. So if anything it confirms your post.
On an interesting note, it looks like Raheem Morris the HC of Tampon Bay is going with the Al DAvis 2 rookie WR’s this year. Might as well get the pain out of the way the theory goes.
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Preciate the info Seymour…just as I thought. The guy was set up to fail. If the Bucs do start two rooks at wideout, expect their young QB Josh Freeman to regress from the progress he showed late last year.
Post 268 is telling! Hey hate JRuss all you want. There are players in the league and on the Raiders that I just do not support no matter what they do(Thats any player that plays for the Donks…players like Fargas and Gradkowski..just cant get behind them). So if Jerry reports that JRuss has slimmed down and looks sharp..completing all of the passes he missed on last camp, people are still going to hate on him. Thats cool…but damn the kid is only a few months older than Colt McCoy??He’s still young…he can turn this around.
I for one thinks if given a fair chance by the coaching staff, he will out perform every QB on our roster..including Campbell. Campbell will have to adjust to a new team and once again…a new offense. If Russell put in the work this off-season, he will be the best QB in camp.
April 30th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Raider O Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 8:53 am
Dakota,
When was the last time you were checked 7 times in an airport?!
When was the last time police stopes you because you were driving a nice car, so they thought you were a drug dealer?!
When was the last time you were stopped because the police think you are illegal immigrant.
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On my last trip to Lyberia.
April 30th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Vegas …
Uhh ..
Netbooks for $299 bruh ….
April 30th, 2010 at 8:56 am
CMON Man!!!!
Minorities are treated like crap in this country!! I say it’s our country too, so let’s take what’s ours, and force Whiter to play nice or we will treat him like he treated us!!!
April 30th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Jhill,
Young black girls usually aren’t here illegally. There are channels through which one can go to get here. If you have to “hide” what you’re doing when you come to this country, then you KNOW that it’s wrong. I am in favor of deporting every illegal and lining the border with stations where they can obtain information about LEGALLY coming to this country. If they choose to come illegally again, ship them to antarctica and let them try to make THAT trip back.
April 30th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Liberia…my bad
April 30th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Raider O Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 8:53 am
Dakota,
When was the last time you were checked 7 times in an airport?!
When was the last time police stopes you because you were driving a nice car, so they thought you were a drug dealer?!
When was the last time you were stopped because the police think you are illegal immigrant.
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Perhaps you immigrants shoud form a UNION!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 30th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Dakota,
LMAO!! Lyberia!!
April 30th, 2010 at 8:59 am
Raider O Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 8:56 am
CMON Man!!!!
Minorities are treated like crap in this country!!
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How do they treat non-Muslim immigrants in Jordan? Or Saudi Arabia?
April 30th, 2010 at 8:59 am
Yo Nate …
The most popular player on the team is always the backup QB!
Everyone LOVED Russell when McClown was starting!
We also LOVED Culpepper.
Wanted Kerry Collins, then couldn’t wait to see Tui and Walter, lol.
Best thing that could happen for a guy like Bruce Gradkowski is to remain the #2 guy. He will never get more love.
April 30th, 2010 at 8:59 am
I’ve seen a lot of statistics showing that what illegal immigrants pay in taxes and social sec without getting social sec benefits outweighs the costs taxpayers inccur for schooling of immigrant children and emergency room visits which is a major reason why states don’t enforce already in place strict immigration laws. The law will be struck down for being unconstitutional as it was just a political ploy to satisfy consertative constituents who applaud such a hard-line stance. GO RAIDERS!
April 30th, 2010 at 9:01 am
Dakota Says:
Hey TW, I thought you had moved to Cuba or something….long time, no see.
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I got kicked out for being an illegal alien.
It’s funny, I’m dating a woman from Liberia.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:02 am
Steve,
I wonder if the Native Americans feel that “Chris Columbus” (I know, I know, but roll with me) and the rest of the funky bunch were here illegally?
April 30th, 2010 at 9:02 am
# Dakota Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Raider O Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 8:53 am
Dakota,
When was the last time you were checked 7 times in an airport?!
When was the last time police stopes you because you were driving a nice car, so they thought you were a drug dealer?!
When was the last time you were stopped because the police think you are illegal immigrant.
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On my last trip to Lyberia.
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on you last trip to the library?
April 30th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Woman: How did you get interested in conceptual art?
Tyrone: I was living with a white woman, much like yourself, and her husband died. He had many paintbrushes and sets of glue about the house.
Man #1: Tyrone, now everyone here knows that you’re most famous for writing “Kill My Landlord.” Do you suppose that you could recite that for us?
Tyrone: No! Shut up! I will recite my latest poem that I wrote about you bougie white trash scum. It’s called “I Hate White People” by Tyrone Green.
I hate the sunlight and I hate the night.
I hate white people because they is white.
Their hair is wavy, their lips is thin,
But worse than white women, I hate white men.
Walking around with briefcase and money,
Bust they head open, my ain’t that funny?
Not out of anger and not out of spite.
I just hate whitey because they is white.
W-I-T-E people.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Bo,
They treat immigrants very well. I was an immigrant in Saudi and Jordan!!
April 30th, 2010 at 9:03 am
You dont need to be profiled to be harassed at the airport. I am a whitey, but somehow my name is on “the list”. I think some IRA member must share the same name as me. Everytime I fly, I gotta get in a special line, where they check my birthday and call some shady government office to get clearance, then they always search my checked bags.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Young black girls usually aren’t here illegally.
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And I’m sure some would argue that the black population in America is what it is because of some, eh hum … Illegal acts by “chris and the funky bunch”, lol!
April 30th, 2010 at 9:04 am
on you last trip to the library?
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Silly LMN, Dakota doesn’t know what a library is. Ask him if he knows what a liberry is.lol
April 30th, 2010 at 9:05 am
Raider O,
I have to say that I have NEVER been a victim of racial profiling …. I think.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:05 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 8:59 am
Raider O Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 8:56 am
CMON Man!!!!
Minorities are treated like crap in this country!!
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How do they treat non-Muslim immigrants in Jordan? Or Saudi Arabia?
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EXACTLY!!! you just proved a great point, you are EXACTLY like Jordan or Saudi Arabia… must be great to be 3rd world country…
April 30th, 2010 at 9:06 am
Young black girls usually aren’t here illegally. There are channels through which one can go to get here. If you have to “hide” what you’re doing when you come to this country, then you KNOW that it’s wrong. I am in favor of deporting every illegal and lining the border with stations where they can obtain information about LEGALLY coming to this country. If they choose to come illegally again, ship them to antarctica and let them try to make THAT trip back.
Getting too political but this country is made up of immigrants so your ancestors down to you should be deported and I think your threatened by how much harder an immigrant works than you. Ever see an immigrant beg for change?
April 30th, 2010 at 9:06 am
you immigrants
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HAHA!
BSJ took “YOU PEOPLE” to a whole new level …
April 30th, 2010 at 9:06 am
# RaiderTW Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 9:04 am
on you last trip to the library?
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Silly LMN, Dakota doesn’t know what a library is. Ask him if he knows what a liberry is.lol
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you mean the Lieberry? the one on zinamon striet?
April 30th, 2010 at 9:07 am
ARIZONA JUST TEXTED YOU
We just want the feds to protect our borders and enforce their immigration laws.
Law abiding citizens cannot live with law breakers
PS Dont be a drama queen. It looks unmanly
April 30th, 2010 at 9:07 am
Bo,
I lived there in those 2 counties for 15 years, and I was treated very well and so were my non Muslim friends.
Nice try!
April 30th, 2010 at 9:09 am
LMN, keep up with this analogy…how is the US EXACTLY like Saudi Arabia? Please include reference to women’s rights, freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, freedom of the press, habeas corpus, etc.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Raider O, are you seriously contending that if a white jew moved to Saudi Arabia or Jordan they would not be racially profiled?
April 30th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Jhill,
LMAO
April 30th, 2010 at 9:13 am
Raider O: would Jordan or Saudi Arabia named JaMarcus Russell “King Elexis” or give him $32 million guaranteed ???
Would they hire a babysitter for him during the offseason?
Would they cut him after 3 awful seasons ala Ryan Leaf?
April 30th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Bo,
I can tell than you never been there, or even close to that area. Ask Dakota, and he will tell you.
We have no problems with Whites, Blacks, etc… There Arab counties in Africa and Asia, so race is not an issue for us.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:16 am
I believe he would be “Sultan Elexis” in Saudia Arabia, and yes of course they would cut him.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:16 am
Reagan passed immigration laws that are in place that fines employers 1,000 per employee 5,000 for a 2nd offense. Immigrants won’t come if they no there’s no work but the laws aren’t enforced because immigrants are too beneficial to the economy, so learn to love em
April 30th, 2010 at 9:17 am
the U.S. guv’mint (mostly white guys along with a funny-looking brown man) is “shocked, shocked I say!” that BP employees (white guys) lied to them about the extent of the oil spewing into the Gulf of Mexico.
There are plenty of shorebirds, crustaceans, cetaceans and and marine reptiles that are ready to unite against whitey.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Jhill,
(Speaking of the first settlers here, not Columbus,since he never set foot on American soil)
Absolutely, those early settlers (the Pilgrims) were here illegally! The Native Americans should have run those crazy religious lunatic zealot bastards right back into the atlantic from whence they came. If Europe kicked them out, then the Native Americans should have done likewise.
Before them, we had the Roanoke colony… I believe the Natives handled that situation just fine: Become one of us or die. That’s my kind of xenophobia, right there!
April 30th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Preppie,
I’m talking about Racial Profiling!! You inor based on Race, so try to keep up, and don’t mix religion and race. 2 different things, and they are 2 different issues.
Keep that up, and I will start calling you Preppie Monkey! lol
April 30th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 8:59 am
Raider O Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 8:56 am
CMON Man!!!!
Minorities are treated like crap in this country!!
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How do they treat non-Muslim immigrants in Jordan? Or Saudi Arabia?
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Bo
I am really sorry to be so harsh but this was one of the most ignorant posts of all time!! If you are caught talking about Christianity in these countries you will go to Jail – for a long time and the jails there are not as good as the ones here. Maybe you should look up a website like voice of the Martyrs and get some perspective. You have no idea what treating immigrants bad is all about!
To be able to ask someone for proof of citizenship when being pulled over for speeding or taken in for some crime pales in comparison to what other countries do. The USA’s policy of open schools and open emergency rooms is unheard of in the 3rd world! Other 1st world countries are much tighter on immigration than we are. You really need to get out more….
April 30th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Immigrants won’t come if they no there’s no work but the laws aren’t enforced because immigrants are too beneficial to the economy, so learn to love em.
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True dat. Pro-business Repub moderates want immigratoin reform so they can increase the low-cost, legal pool of workers. Meanwhile, the agents hunt the workers and give a pass to the employers who ignored their status to exploit them.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Bo,
I’m White, and I’m a Muslim.t
April 30th, 2010 at 9:20 am
80% off on blackened fish coming soon to a restaurant near you.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:21 am
Jhill,
I am in NO WAY condoning slavery. However, the slave trade was in full force WAY before any white europeans put the first African on a boat. The whites didn’t go a-conquering and make slaves, they bought the slaves from African tribes who conquered and enslaved their neighbors. The whole concept is screwed up and I am definitely not in favor of it, but one has to admit that it wasn’t just white people who were responsible for black slaves being here in the U.S.
The TREATMENT of the slaves when they got here: All whitey’s fault. The slaves being slaves in the first place: That’s on the people who conquered and enslaved them… other African tribes. That practice goes back to LONG before the first European boats landed in Africa.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:22 am
Raider O Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Preppie,
I’m talking about Racial Profiling!! You inor based on Race, so try to keep up, and don’t mix religion and race. 2 different things, and they are 2 different issues.
Keep that up, and I will start calling you Preppie Monkey! lol
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Jews and Caucasians are not races now? And Dakota has been to Saudi?
You are trippin, Mustafa. And BTW, I strongly oppose racial profiling. It is not a US-only problem though. Try wearing a veil in France.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Bo
Apologies. I just realized you were posing a retorical question to someone making an ignorant comment.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:23 am
334,
I’m sorry for saying this, but that’s ignorant crap!!!
There are Christians in Arab countries, and they don’t go to jail!!
Don’t be so Ignorant!!!
April 30th, 2010 at 9:24 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 8:59 am
Raider O Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 8:56 am
CMON Man!!!!
Minorities are treated like crap in this country!!
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How do they treat non-Muslim immigrants in Jordan? Or Saudi Arabia?
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Bo
I am really sorry to be so harsh but this was one of the most ignorant posts of all time!! If you are caught talking about Christianity in these countries you will go to Jail – for a long time and the jails there are not as good as the ones here. Maybe you should look up a website like voice of the Martyrs and get some perspective. You have no idea what treating immigrants bad is all about!
To be able to ask someone for proof of citizenship when being pulled over for speeding or taken in for some crime pales in comparison to what other countries do. The USA’s policy of open schools and open emergency rooms is unheard of in the 3rd world! Other 1st world countries are much tighter on immigration than we are. You really need to get out more….
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Huh? I think I was making the same point. You are clearly confused. Direct your vitriol at LMN.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:25 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 9:05 am
EXACTLY!!! you just proved a great point, you are EXACTLY like Jordan or Saudi Arabia… must be great to be 3rd world country…
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Hmmm, sounds like now that Denmark isn’t 100% white, they are having problems too…glass house etc:
“The Growing Racism in Denmark
Something Rotten in Denmark?
Submitted by David A (Denmark), Dec 17, 2005 at 04:30
I myself am a Jew. My mother is Danish, Jewish of origin, 4th generation immigrant from Russia/Poland. My father is an Israeli, Yemenite Jew of origin. I’m quite dark skinned, and as so could go for being an Arab (Muslim).
The last couple of years I personally have felt how racism can strike you like a sledgehammer. I am constantly reminded that I’m different, by comments from people. Few days ago a lady looked at me in the street a said to me “you are all the same”, not knowing that I was Jewish.
So I quite understand the frustration of Muslims in Denmark. It is obvious that they are not welcome. Or you may say that many Danes judge people by their color, as seen in my example. It is becoming more and more acceptable both among Danish politicians and by the public, to make statements that are thoroughly encompassed by racistic means.
I believe that if this will continue and racism towards Muslims or for that sake any dark skinned groups in this country, it could create such radicalism, both among Danes but also among Muslims, that could lead to heavy violence. This is surely not the way to integrate people, but a way to create segregation, and undermine the present welfare state. The Danish politicians should think about that. As a Jew and in my case dark skinned person, I therefore truly understand what it means to be stigmatized, and considered to be “like all of them”, and can understand why deep hate are created among different cultural groups, and what this can do to a society, Danes should think about that.”
April 30th, 2010 at 9:25 am
What’s good, Nation. The JaWhale watch continues…I assume they will make him a proposition- either take a pay cut (which his agent should advise him to, since he wouldn’t get anything more than the league minimum if another team were to pick him up, yet somehow the Raiders would still be willing to give him a little more than that) or take a hike (and be assured of the league minimum). Hopefully we will know more by this afternoon.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Ryan Leaf became addicted to pills after his NFL career was over. What will Jamarcus Russell become addicted to?
April 30th, 2010 at 9:25 am
BSJ…
you were the one who brought up those countries to compare it was okay to profile…
April 30th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Man, this pre-minicamp morning chat has taken a dark turn. Can’t we just all agree that Arizona sucks and be done with it.
Who thinks “Sultan Shoelaces” will be at the facility today?
April 30th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Jews are a race?!?!?!
You are a preppie monkey!!!!!!
LMAO @ Mich’s education!!!!!
Jews are a race!!!!!
April 30th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Hell, he may not even get signed by another team…hence the end of his career if he opts to sit out this year.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:27 am
Just because every christian does not go to jail does not mean its justified to send any to jail simply for having different beliefs. You are the ignorant one….
April 30th, 2010 at 9:28 am
I can’t believe we’re having a debate about racism without Kell!
YOU PEOPLE wait a while. keep your pants on.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:29 am
at 9:29 am at the Raiders practice facility:
Jason Campbell-studying the playbook
Bruce Gradkowski-studying the playbook
Charlie Frye-studying the playbook
Kyle Boller- studying the playbook
Jamarcus Russell-reading a comic book
April 30th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Bo just called Jews a race!!!
LMAO at his Mich Education!!!
LMN,
Do you see why we have problems here?
April 30th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Dakota…
dont avoid the topic, of course there is racism here, where theres people, there are stupid people…
but the talk was about profiling, and that would never be legal here, so come again fool…
April 30th, 2010 at 9:30 am
why hasn’t Stanford Routt signed his tender yet ???
April 30th, 2010 at 9:30 am
I hate the concept of racial profiling and think it’s B.S. that they will ask someone who looks Mexican for their documentation when they stop them for speeding, but won’t check the white guy to make sure he isn’t an illegal Austrian immigrant. However, I can KIND OF see their point… the illegal immigration problem is mostly caused by illegal hispanic immigrants, not people of other races. I doubt that they’ll be checking docs for chinese people at traffic stops, so while it IS profiling, it’s profiling targeted at a particular problem.
If a white guy has raped a woman in my neighborhood and he’s being searched for… and the cops see me walking the streets at night and stop me for I.D. and ask me why I’m walkin around at night, I wouldn’t consider that to be racial profiling, but it is… it’s just racial profiling with a purpose to try to solve a crime or prevent more crime… same as asking a hispanic for their docs. I would be pissed that I got stopped, but that’s better than stopping NO ONE and letting the rapist roam free without even trying to stop him.
Stopping every black guy you see because you think he might be a criminal, with no evidence: BAD racial profiling.
Asking for docs from every hispanic who has been stopped for something else already: Not really that bad of an idea in a state where illegal mexican immigration is a HUGE problem. It’s not like they’re randomly stopping people… yet. The idea is good, the problem is that it will be abused and will turn into a major ordeal.
As a former citizen of Maricopa County, I know… Joe Arpaio is a moron, a racist, a dirty, rotten crook, and needs to be removed from office ASAP.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:30 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Dakota…
dont avoid the topic, of course there is racism here, where theres people, there are stupid people…
but the talk was about profiling, and that would never be legal here, so come again fool…
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It is not legal here either FOOL. Read the law.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:31 am
# Raider O Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Bo just called Jews a race!!!
LMAO at his Mich Education!!!
LMN,
Do you see why we have problems here?
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yup, I saw it, and if he believes that he must be some part racist…
April 30th, 2010 at 9:32 am
Dakota…
you avoiding… just the words in the law is profiling…
April 30th, 2010 at 9:32 am
LMN, you and Raider O need to stop hating on Jews, or any other dictinct groups. Word.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:32 am
(Speaking of the first settlers here, not Columbus,since he never set foot on American soil)
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Again,
I know, I know, just roll with me. Too many others would need an “explanation” and I wasn’t really trying to go there.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:32 am
who called Russell a bust?
you bunch of racists!
April 30th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Ignorant Monkey,
Christians don’t go to Jail in Arab countries!!! Some Arab counties are Christian! WTF is wrong with you? Are you retarded?
April 30th, 2010 at 9:33 am
you are…
April 30th, 2010 at 9:33 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 9:32 am
Dakota…
you avoiding… just the words in the law is profiling…
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Wrong. Did you know that there are white illegal immigrants too????
April 30th, 2010 at 9:34 am
We just want the feds to protect our borders and enforce their immigration laws.
Law abiding citizens cannot live with law breakers
No matter what the color of skins
April 30th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Raider O,
Can a white foreigner become a Saudi citizen through immigration? Answer, no. Marriage is the only way, and must still be “approved” by the kingdom.
Profile that.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:35 am
jerry better f ing tweet something soon, you guys are losing it.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:35 am
80% off on blackened fish coming soon to a restaurant near you.
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Just a mess, isn’t it?
And I’m sure we don’t and won’t even know the half of it.
Shouldn’t the shady CEOs who otry to cover up stuff like this and the mine explosions be subject to the death penalty?
April 30th, 2010 at 9:36 am
Jews are a race!
Damn you Mich!!!!!
LMAO
April 30th, 2010 at 9:36 am
jhill Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 9:35 am
80% off on blackened fish coming soon to a restaurant near you.
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Just a mess, isn’t it?
And I’m sure we don’t and won’t even know the half of it.
Shouldn’t the shady CEOs who otry to cover up stuff like this and the mine explosions be subject to the death penalty?
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Yikes, okay chairman Mao.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:36 am
trade the walrus for Lief Erickson or Hernando Cortez !!!
April 30th, 2010 at 9:37 am
Raider O, pay attn. I didn’t get a Michigan education. Sadly, I was educated in Cali where the schools are a horrendnous disgrace. And don;t go blaming teacher unions, you ignorant greedy monkey. Prop 13 killed education in Cali.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:37 am
When he first got elected, Joe Arpaio had to have it EXPLAINED TO HIM that he couldn’t stop every car that crossed into Maricopa County to search it for illegal drugs and firearms. That bastard of an ass-hole didn’t understand that it violates the fourth amendment to the U.S. Constitution. He is the worst law-enforcement official in the country and should be removed from office, then handed over to the public to be dealt with.
He has also embezzled, lied, stolen, and generally screwed over the county for YEARS… and the morons keep re-electing him because he’s “tough on crime.” Putting guys in pink boxers and making them camp out in 120 degree heat isn’t being tough on crime, it’s being a dick. He has done NOTHING to improve M.C., yet has done a LOT of meaningful damage. Sadly, he campaigns well… then again, when you steal MILLIONS upon MILLIONS, you can afford to campaign well…
April 30th, 2010 at 9:37 am
Sheriff Joes Policemen are TRAINED by the feds on how to avoid racial profiling in ALL phases of their job.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:38 am
“If Russell put in the work this off-season, he will be the best QB in camp.”
Um..he didn’t and he won’t be. But he will throw the most balls into the dirt.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:38 am
trade the walrus for Lief Erickson or Hernando Cortez !!!
HA!
April 30th, 2010 at 9:39 am
if it smells like a honk, it is a honk!
April 30th, 2010 at 9:39 am
Stop talking about Jews and race! It’s a bad idea! The last time Jews and races were talked about together was at the Munich games in 1972… and those Jews never finished their races…
*Going to hell for sure after that horribly distasteful joke*
April 30th, 2010 at 9:39 am
I’m talking about an issue in our country The Great USA, and you ignorant monkeys start attacking Arab countries because you think I’m attacking you!!
Monkeys!!! Ignorant Monkeys!!!!
April 30th, 2010 at 9:40 am
A foreigner can work for the Saudi kingdom for 50 years, but when it is time to retire they are profiled to the border and told they must leave.
http://travellerwithin.blogspot.com/2008/07/saudi-arabias-legalised-racism.html
April 30th, 2010 at 9:40 am
Alright, people… I REALLY have to get the shop cleaned before we open… I just can’t break away from this blog today! Must… go… work…
April 30th, 2010 at 9:41 am
Damn Cali’s education!!!!
April 30th, 2010 at 9:41 am
but one has to admit that it wasn’t just white people who were responsible for black slaves being here in the U.S.
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I am well aware that Chris and the funky bunch were Spanairds.
As I’m sure that you are aware that there was a black market (no pun intended) version of the slave kidnapping/trade thingie too, right?
Not everyone pulled up at the local Slaves-R-Us to pick up their “workers”, lol.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:41 am
Do you think women feel inadequate when they see Jamarcus tits?
April 30th, 2010 at 9:43 am
You have attacked whitey all morning with name calling and insults.
Are all muslims like you?
Name calling drama queens?
April 30th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Bo,
Yes sir!! They also don’t pay taxes!!!!!!
Keep trying you ignorant preppie monkey, and don’t focus on the important issue of racial profiling!!
April 30th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Where in the constitution does it say that law breaking illegal immigrants have the right to prevent law enforcement from calling in and requesting a check on their immigration status?
If I get pulled over law enforcement has the right to call in a warrant check on me. WTF is the difference?
April 30th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Do you think women feel inadequate when they see Jamarcus tits?
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LOL!
April 30th, 2010 at 9:46 am
trade the walrus for Ponce de León or John Cabot !!!
April 30th, 2010 at 9:47 am
I’ll bet the KFC double-down sandwich feels pretty inadequate when it sees “Shoelace” Russell’s gut.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:47 am
I love this country and what it stands for, but YOU IGNORANT MONKEYS will destroy it one day.
Stop the Ignorant Monkeys from destroying our great country!!
GWB was an ignorant monkey just like You People!!!
April 30th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Dakota Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 9:43 am
If I get pulled over law enforcement has the right to call in a warrant check on me. WTF is the difference?
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Illegal immigration is a civil, federal penalty. Not a crime. Local cops have no jurisdiction AT ALL unless they have been federally deputized to address immigration violations.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:51 am
That is the problem with you monkeys!! You cent focus?!?
Who cares if they eat dick and sleep on ass in Saudi?!
We are talking about Racial Profiling in the USA!!!!
Damn you Monkeys!!!
April 30th, 2010 at 9:52 am
RR,
You sir are not a monkey!!
April 30th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Hearing Russell is here . . . we’ll see if he practices or watches . . .
2 minutes ago via PockeTwit
April 30th, 2010 at 9:54 am
Stop the species profiling. Monkeys got rights.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:55 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 9:32 am
LMN, you and Raider O need to stop hating on Jews, or any other dictinct groups. Word.
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HAhhahahaha, I have j3ws in my family, and some of my best friends are mus1im…
you were the one saying jews was a race… thats racist, isnt it?
please show me where i have been hating on j3ws? or any distinct group?
I admit, I dont care for Mormons or jehova’s witnesses or Scientology, to me they are the same, nothing else but a money-machine…
April 30th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Updated: April 30, 2010, 12:00 PM ET
Russell inspires ill-will in Oakland By Mark Fainaru-Wada ESPN
It’s the parking lot of the Oakland Coliseum, and the Raiders have lost again. Badly. A 23-3 home loss to the hated Denver Broncos on an unseasonably warm, late September afternoon. Raider Nation is trudging out of the stadium in a too-familiar scene, and one player’s performance overshadows all others.
The fans have just witnessed quarterback JaMarcus Russell pass for 61 yards, throw two interceptions and tally a meager 22.6 passer rating. So, in the aftermath, one Raiders devotee unburdens himself of his No. 2 Russell jersey, douses it with lighter fluid and burns it in effigy. Soon, 25 to 30 fans have gathered around, cheering wildly and shouting epithets.
“Burn it!”
“F— JaMarcus Russell!”
“You piece of s—!”
“You punk!”
“You’re a piece of garbage!”
The last rites of Russell finally are halted when a police officer stomps out the flaming jersey, eliciting a chorus of disapproval from the frothing mass.
Don Staben Jr., a 28-year-old lifelong Raiders fan, sees the commotion as it is just beginning, pulls out his cell phone and records the act for YouTube posterity.
“I just happened to be in the right place at the right time,” recounted Staben Jr., a union plumber who lives in Antioch, about 40 miles northeast of the Coliseum. Staben said the only thing that bothered him about the scene was that it was a Raiders jersey being torched. “Being a Raiders fan, I don’t like to see our memorabilia getting burnt.”
Did it seem at all excessive?
“No, it didn’t strike me as excessive,” Staben said. “In the context of that game, you had to have been there or at least seen the game to understand the way he was perceived on that particular day.”
There’s hatred, and then there’s sports hatred, a bastardized version that is largely accepted as harmless because, well, you know, fans will be fans. The sports zealot is readily dismissed as an amusing, face-painted, screeching sort who’s merely indulging his passions to escape the real world.
There are either glorious heroes or bitter enemies, with little room for nuance.
But there’s something about how Russell has engendered such loathing within Raider Nation that it has become almost frightening to watch. So embittered is the fan base at this point that the team’s recent trade for former Washington Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell — which could lead to the release of Russell — has to be viewed not only as a possible upgrade for the team but also as a potential escape from hell for Russell.
Randy Novelli was at that same Broncos game, toting along his video camera. A local, part-time disc jockey and radio host who goes by the name DJ Kazzeo, Novelli had decided to record what random fans thought of Russell and then share their responses through YouTube. Like a lot of the faithful, Novelli had harbored huge hopes that, after the Raiders made Russell the No. 1 overall pick of the NFL draft in 2007, the franchise finally would emerge from a sustained bout of badness.
Raiders fans haven’t exactly been enthralled with quarterback JaMarcus Russell.
The Raiders were coming off a 2-14 season and had four consecutive years of at least 11 losses when they chose Russell out of LSU. After a prolonged holdout, the 6-foot-6, ever-widening quarterback (he was listed at 252 pounds in college but arrived in Oakland reportedly pushing 270) signed a six-year, $61 million contract — $32 million of which was guaranteed. In December, when Russell entered his first game of what would be a 4-12 season, he received a standing ovation from Raider Nation.
Weak in many areas, the Raiders finished the 2008 season 5-11, with Russell as the starter. And though he had a respectable year, the No. 1 draft choice and self-described “chosen one” was becoming a lightning rod. He had weight and work ethic issues, and to many fans and teammates, he appeared neither to care nor feel he bore any responsibility for the team’s continued woefulness.
Russell declined to be interviewed for this story but issued a statement through his agent acknowledging he has areas to improve upon and saying he is working to get better.
By September of last season, the 38-year-old Novelli and seemingly every other Raiders disciple had turned on Russell. Novelli thought it would be enlightening to solicit opinions about Russell at the stadium. And so, as a sea of Raiders fans exited the Coliseum following the Denver loss, he simply pointed his video camera and asked, over and over again, “What do you think of Russell?”
Oakland police officer: “I think they should have got Michael Vick.”
Smiling fan, making peace sign, then changing tune when asked question: “He sucks, that guy is bad.”
Very large, face-painted fan, wearing sombrero: “F— Russell.”
Random guy, with arm around his girlfriend: “Sucks, sucks, sucks.”
Ultimately, Novelli turned the camera on himself and said, “There you have it, I proved my point: JaMarcus Russell, you f—ing suck!”
Novelli didn’t catch the burning of the jersey in the parking lot, but he did see it on YouTube. Did it seem excessive?
“I guess I would have to liken it to Al Qaeda burning American flags. They hate us and we as Raider fans hate JaMarcus,” Novelli said, laughing.
Two and a half months later, on the other side of the country, about a half-dozen guys gathered in the basement of Dan Vassalluzzo’s New Jersey home. The group of Raiders faithful once consisted of 25 to 30 members who would convene every football Sunday in a local bar that, despite being in the heart of Eagles country, set aside a back corner for the gang in silver and black.
By 2009, though, thanks to marriages, kids and consistent ineptness by their beloved Raiders, the group had dwindled to maybe six die-hards, meeting on game days at Vassalluzzo’s pad. Their 35-year-old host, a Raiders fan since childhood, has two tattoos honoring his team and a roomful of memorabilia: figurines, painted plates, flags, banners, a model team plane and several bobbleheads.
On Dec. 13, the New Jersey branch of Raider Nation came together in the basement to watch its team play the Redskins. Oakland, with Russell finally benched in favor of Bruce Gradkowski, had won two of its three previous games and fans had embraced not just Gradkowski but anybody other than Russell.
At the half, the Raiders trailed just 17-10, and hope persisted. But Gradkowski left the game with a knee injury, was replaced by Russell, and that was the end. In the second half, Oakland’s offense gained just 39 yards, and the Redskins won 34-13. Russell finished 10-of-16 for 74 yards, with one interception. He was sacked six times.
Afterward, admittedly alcohol addled, the New Jersey bunch turned on Russell.
“All at once, we looked at the bobblehead, and it was just smiling at us,” said 31-year-old Brett Triantafillou, one of the die-hards. “We grabbed it and ran out back. At first we were gonna just stomp it, but we thought fire would be better.”
Triantafillou recorded the scene on his cell phone, and, using a can of bug spray as an igniter, the Russell bobblehead was set ablaze.
Over raucous laughter in the background, the men derided Russell.
“Light him up!”
“JaMarcus, you f—ing suck!”
“Your goddamned f—ing overpaid contract!”
“Burn baby burn!”
Asked months later whether the group might have gone too far, Triantafillou, a freelance videographer, said, “We figured there’s worse things on the Internet. If you take it so seriously, there’s something wrong with you. It’s football. It’s not like we were gonna go across the country and find the guy.”
There are 333 members on the JaMarcus Russell Sucks Facebook page. There is a JaMarcus Russell Sucks blog. There are thousands of pages that reference Russell in the same breath as Ryan Leaf, arguably the biggest bust in NFL history.
“He’s almost despised here,” said Gary Peterson, a columnist with the Bay Area News Group who has covered sports in the area for 31 years — from the legendary Bill Walsh San Francisco 49ers teams to the consistently bad Raiders teams of the past seven seasons.
Peterson has watched Russell’s tenure in Oakland devolve into the Theater of the Absurd. In early March, as homage to Tiger Woods’ reported stint in sex rehab, Peterson made a joking reference at the end of a column that Russell had entered a clinic for treatment of “lethargy addiction.”
Within hours, a local TV station reported Russell’s alleged affliction as fact, and soon the Internet was awash with stories about the quarterback’s malady. Peterson had picked the word lethargy after turning to dictionary.com in an effort to ensure he selected just the right term. How did “lethargy” speak to him about Russell?
“Basically everything you would characterize his career as being,” he said. “A lack of will, a lack of energy, just someone who won’t apply himself.”
Peterson said that feeling persisted not just among fans but also throughout much of the organization.
“Oh, you get that message all the time,” he said. “It’s either inside the locker room or out, it’s either off the record or spoken in code, but the unrelenting message is: He does not work hard at it and he’s not fully invested in the outcome, and if the check’s cashing, he’s happy.”
And therein, Peterson says, lies the root of the extreme bitterness directed at Russell by Raider Nation. It’s not just that the team has had three more double-digit losing seasons, making it seven in a row for the organization with a self-proclaimed “Commitment to Excellence.” Nor is it just that he doesn’t seem to be getting better. Or even that he seems to fumble with ridiculous regularity.
No, it’s the apparent aloofness — real or imagined — that stands out.
“I think people are angry that he doesn’t seem to get it,” Peterson said. “… Maybe he doesn’t understand that he’s supposed to work harder or he is content not to work harder, and I think that just adds, that just takes the fans’ discontent and it just explodes exponentially. They can almost abide a guy who can’t play well, but fans here will not abide a guy who doesn’t play well, maybe in part because there is a limit to how hard he will work at it.”
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April 30th, 2010 at 9:56 am
Raider O,
How is it racial profiling when illegal immigrants come in all colors? They are simply trying to clean up an illegal immigration problem in Arizona. If a white guy can’t produce a valid AZ driver’s license when pulled over then he will be checked too in case he is an illegal immigrant from Ireland.
If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:56 am
Dakota has a point… and I have a solution, based on his point:
We need to put citizenship status in with DMV records. That way, when an illegal gets pulled over and the cop asks for license, it will show his or her status when he gets their DMV info. If they don’t have a valid DMV-issued I.D., then they should be going to the jailhouse anyway… so their illegal status (or lack of ANY status) will show up when they do an identity search on them. Problem solved… without having to profile anyone.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:56 am
Stanford Routt’s been around, I hear. Must have signed 1st-3rd tender . . . why wouldn’t he?
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April 30th, 2010 at 9:56 am
thanks O!
I don’t consider you a “monkey” either, just a “Lizard King” or whatever it was you said
thanks for keeping my acct at BOO in good standing
April 30th, 2010 at 9:57 am
okay, i have a hard time posting, great lag on jerrys part…
April 30th, 2010 at 9:57 am
you were the one saying jews was a race… thats racist, isnt it?
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no
April 30th, 2010 at 9:57 am
Yikes, okay chairman Mao.
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LOL!
Just sayin’ …
April 30th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Bo,
Never!! (preppie monkey)
LMAO
April 30th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Stanford Routt’s been around, I hear. Must have signed 1st-3rd tender . .
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YES!!!
playoffs baby
April 30th, 2010 at 9:59 am
If Billy Mays were still alive he would just OxiClean the schyt out of the Gulf and clean that oil right up!
RIP Billy!
April 30th, 2010 at 10:00 am
LMFAO Dakota!!!!!!!
April 30th, 2010 at 10:01 am
BSJ…
its a member of a certain religion, not a race…
I really curious what are a race to you? I really would like to know that
April 30th, 2010 at 10:02 am
SteveAlford21 Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 9:56 am
Dakota has a point… and I have a solution, based on his point:
We need to put citizenship status in with DMV records. That way, when an illegal gets pulled over and the cop asks for license, it will show his or her status when he gets their DMV info. If they don’t have a valid DMV-issued I.D., then they should be going to the jailhouse anyway… so their illegal status (or lack of ANY status) will show up when they do an identity search on them. Problem solved… without having to profile anyone.
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As I noted, the problem is that immigratoin id a federal civil problem. I think the new immigration bill being debated in DC cals for including immigration status on IDs, but they may move to natoinal IDs…which scares the wingnuts.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:02 am
RR,
I will make you CEO of BOO one day, but don’t tell Frantz.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:03 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 10:01 am
BSJ…
its a member of a certain religion, not a race…
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It is debatable. You cannot be a Jew in Israel unless your mother was a Jew. Sounds like more than a religion to me. Maybe a tribe if not a race.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:04 am
LMN,
Bo condiders anyone who is not a White Christian a diff race! lol
April 30th, 2010 at 10:05 am
# jhill Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 9:35 am
80% off on blackened fish coming soon to a restaurant near you.
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Just a mess, isn’t it?
And I’m sure we don’t and won’t even know the half of it.
Shouldn’t the shady CEOs who otry to cover up stuff like this and the mine explosions be subject to the death penalty?
………..
W did it. It was an inside job.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:06 am
Considers*
April 30th, 2010 at 10:06 am
Jamarcus Russell just broke his ankle!!! Doesn’t look good.
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April 30th, 2010 at 10:06 am
Bo and LMN, here is the answer to your debate from a Rabbi:
“Rabbi Ari Enkin
Question: Is Judaism a religion or race?
Dear Rabbi Enkin,
I always thought that Judaism was a race and a religion. I say race because certain genetic diseases, like Tay-Sachs, are found among Central and Eastern European (Ashkenazi) Jews. Please explain how this does not mean race. I am very confused on this subject.
Thanks,
Mindy
Answer: Dear Mindy,
I wish others would ask and explore the question you raise!
While the full answer is exhaustive – the short answer is: The Jews are both a race and religion.
Our religion is quite clear — see your nearest Biible.
While a Christian is defined as one who follows the teachings of Jesus, a Jew is defined as one born from a Jewish mother or converted according to Jewish Law. That being said – a person remains a member of the Jewish nation for the rest of their life regardless of what religious practices that person chooses to follow/reject. And yes, as a nation we have our own culture, foods, land, and even diseases.
I hope this helps,
Rabbi Ari Enkin”
April 30th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Bring the troops home and put them on the Mexican border.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:08 am
don’t tell Frantz.
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re-sign MLB Frantz Joseph!
stuff the run!
April 30th, 2010 at 10:09 am
Thanks Dakota. LMN and Raider O, get taught please.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Kirk
I have been preaching that for over 20 years now.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Russell broke his ankle? I guess that his ankle could not support his own weight anymore. To bad it was not his neck. I can see his neck giving out too, his head is to big. The guy has a pack of hot dogs on the back of his neck and under his chin. What a loser!
April 30th, 2010 at 10:10 am
EFF THAT Dakota!! They Dont have Land!!!!!
April 30th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Hate to inject football into the discussion at this political site, but I have breaking news: apparently Jamarcus has taken his first sack of camp, players found him pinned to the ground beneath the clubhouse vending machine.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:12 am
I’ve been seeing the call for Frantz Joseph in here a lot over the past few days. He guys we have a run stuffing MLB, he was drafted #8 overall, his name is Rolondo McClain.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:12 am
They stole land, just like how Mich stole talent from Ohio!
Damn you Mich!!
April 30th, 2010 at 10:12 am
This will not end well. Its all by design in order to control everyone, no matter the color of your skin.
They keep us fighting each other so we will not recognize the true enemy.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:12 am
LMFAO! @ Kseven
April 30th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Raider O Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 10:10 am
EFF THAT Dakota!! They Dont have Land!!!!!
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Those with the power hold the land…just ask Crazy Horse and Sitting Bull…as soon as your brethren can muster the strength then they can have Israel back…until then….quit yer biotchin.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Okay, I really AM leaving now… but I have one last comment:
I am not a wingnut, but I don’t like the idea of a federal I.D. It has nothing to do with the rfid chip or anything like that (my passport has a chip, so that isn’t an issue for me); I just don’t want the federal gub-ment getting any bigger or having any more power over me than they already do. I want less government, not MORE. I would get into it a bit more and explain the rationale, but I REALLY have to get going. I’ll log in later from the shop, lol.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Rockstar, what did you think of the Raiders draft?
April 30th, 2010 at 10:14 am
I’ll log in later from the shop
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Dakota: does Steve work at your pawn shop?
April 30th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Raider O Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 10:10 am
EFF THAT Dakota!! They Dont have Land!!!!!
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I think you got that backwards. Right or not, they took the land and defended it in several wars.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:16 am
today the Cal rugby team takes on Arkansas State in a national semifinal.
Arkansas State featuring ten South African players has its work cut out for it as the undefeated Cal Bears (24-0) have outscored opponents 1,522 – 142 this season.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Dakota,
Yes sir Mr. White Man! You sure know how to get power, take land, and kill!!!
Teach me!!!!
April 30th, 2010 at 10:16 am
I don’t think the Raiders need a NT as bad as they need a Vet CB (there are soom good ones availible) and a vet WR. I would like to see these areas of concern addressed after the june 1 cuts. Or in the case of a CB the Raiders can get a good one now.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Raider O, did you know that the Jews were there before the Palestinians? You know, so really they just got back what was theirs….if you had the power to stop it you should have…although judging from the 6 day war, you guys have a long looooong loooooooong ways to go, lol.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Raider O Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 10:12 am
They stole land, just like how Mich stole talent from Ohio!
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It’s about power. Mich got it, suckeyes do not.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:17 am
what did you think of the Raiders draft?
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RNO: pleasantly surprised. give us a solid B+
avoided HUGE needs at Fullback, Center, Guard and Defensive Tackle on Saturday to bring in a WR and 3 DB’s
Jason Campbell, 2 OL and the best MLB in the draft? nice haul. plus I think Lamarr Houston might be a player (even though I wanted Cody at #44)
your thoughts ???
April 30th, 2010 at 10:18 am
From SFgate:
The 10 JaMarcus scenarios
“One person, Al Davis, is the only person who’s going to make this decision. The organization wants to get rid of JaMarcus Russell, the sentiment within the organization is to get rid of JaMarcus Russell, and the dollar signs are there to get rid of JaMarcus Russell. And it will happen. But it’s only going to happen on the owner’s timetable. Nobody’s going to tell him when to do it, or how to do it. When he wakes up one morning and decides he wants to release JaMarcus Russell, that’s when it will happen.”
– Former Raiders GM and NFL Network analyst Michael Lombardi
I wish you could all be there with me today, holding my breath and waiting to see if JaMarcus runs out on the practice field. I was convinced Oakland would cut Russell long before this minicamp and let teammates get excited about a fresh start with Jason Campbell. But what do I know?
Here’s what I think will happen today, and I am taking 10 shots at it so I won’t be wrong.
The 10 JaMarcus minicamp scenarios (in no order):
1. He decides at the last minute not to take a pay cut and Al Davis cuts him.
2. The matter is unresolved by 10:30 a.m. and Russell does not practice due to a flu.
3. He takes a big pay cut (the veteran minimum of $630,000) and says he wants to compete for the starting job. Birds chirp, and in the distance a rainbow.
4. Not only that, but Russell weighs nowhere near 300 pounds and takes a minute to blast all the bloggers, tweeters and haters out there.
5. Russell goes three bills, does not take a pay cut, Davis lets him run out there, Russell pulls a hamstring … cha ching.
6. The Raiders let him keep the full $6.45 mil more he has coming (plus the guaranteed 3 mil) on one condition. He goes both ways and gives them 10 plays a game at defensive tackle.
7. He takes a pay cut, offers to give some of the $36 million he already collected back and then suggests that maybe Cal football coach Jeff Tedford defray some of the student fee increases by giving half a mil back himself.
8. He takes a smaller paycut, on one condition: Everything he says to the media today has “Lane Kiffin’s fault” in the middle of it.
9. He buys out Davis, cuts Campbell and has a ball as player-owner until the season starts. Then, the owner realizes he needs a better quarterback.
10. Raiders fans wake up. It was all a bad dream. It’s 2002 and Rich Gannon is dealin’. Woo-hoo.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:21 am
I’m with you, but OG and FB were addressed in UDFA. I don’t think you have to draft a FB or OG, in the Raiders case they should of looked hard at C and with so many OTs we can always move one of them to OG.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:21 am
That’s not true Dakota!!! They immigrated from egypt to the the promised land, and to had to fight the natives to stay. Who do you think the Natives were? Monkeys?!?
April 30th, 2010 at 10:21 am
avoided HUGE needs at Fullback, Center, Guard and Defensive Tackle on Saturday to bring in a WR and 3 DB’s
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RNO: let me explain. and also add backup MLB to that list
depth is great and every team needs it, but I’m not sold on Satele, Carlisle, Lawton or Bryant as starters.
I think we could have got some guys on Saturday BETTER than those 4 on the current roster.
I hope undrafted rookies Tonga, Moline, Heard & Parsons really step it up and have a legit shot to make the team!
April 30th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Anyone got a link to Jerry’s twitter?
April 30th, 2010 at 10:23 am
You have power!!
You have to win a game 1st!! You haven’t won in 5 years!!!!!
The OSU > Mich!!
April 30th, 2010 at 10:24 am
I would start OT Campbell at guard and see what the guy can do.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:24 am
new post!
April 30th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Raider O Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 10:21 am
That’s not true Dakota!!! They immigrated from egypt to the the promised land, and to had to fight the natives to stay. Who do you think the Natives were? Monkeys?!?
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LOL. They “immigrated” TO Egypt as slaves first.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:25 am
Jerrymcd Looks like a substantial media turnout . . . Raiders have made themselves a big story
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LOL at the vultures wating on the Jacarcus scraps!
April 30th, 2010 at 10:26 am
Getting rid of Morrison was crap. The guy could of been a great back up at all three LB positions. The Raiders got rid of him for a bag of chips, that is not right. I hope he dose well in Jacksonville.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:27 am
The Jews built a Temple to God on the Temple Mount, two thousand years before Islam became a religion
April 30th, 2010 at 10:27 am
Raider O, do you really want to start a discussion on who owns what land on this planet? Human history is a bloody epic of land disputes, conquest, defeat and ever-changing borders, and everyone was involved, not just the whiteys and the jews. This is a completely ridiculous and irrelevant logic-road to travel on a Raiders blog, 4 minutes away from the start of mini-camp. Lets talk football, and get off this slippery slope, before we all end up on wikipedia looking up names and dates.