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Practice highlights

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, May 1st, 2010 at 12:53 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Practice concluded, interview sessions underway. Check Twitter page for practice observations.

More to come . . .

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  • Seymour Bush

    wacky post #147 was a desperate SAD monologue that made no sense. But you STILL have not told us how much Whiner gear you own. There’s a reason, you are gutless to admit, you a dik sucking Whiner loving ho. And you just regurgitate everything I say to you. Pathetic.

  • Nnamdi21

    I am off to get ready for a gourmet dinner with freinds while watching the Mayweather Mosely fight!

    Plenty o beer, schmoke beautiful young women and fun!

    Enjoy your pot pie Wack job!

  • lefty12

    If you don’t like the guy fine,that is your prerogative.I just don’t see any reason to come on here every day and attack the guy,especially since he hasn’t posted in over a week.

  • jmeds

    From the little tape I seen from yesterday Russell looks good. He is moving well and looks to be taking his job seriously. That is all I ask as a fan. We sat Plunkett for a year. Do the same with Russell if need be.

  • Nnamdi21

    150. Prove he’s not the biggest bust in pro sports EVER!

    it’ll make a great story if he can become the man.

  • SteveAlford21

    Seymour,

    The “lot” of JaMarcus Russell was in his own hands from the start. If he had wanted to work and be great, then he would have. The only way that it will EVER happen is out of desperation over losing the capacity to make millions for playing a game at which he has a natural talent.

    He has already proven that pride won’t force him to do it. He has proven that he doesn’t have the innate desire and drive to do it. He has proven that he has no character or will to succeed unless the situation demands that he do more than the bare minimum necessary to get by. The only way that he will ever put in the work, the study, and the preparation necessary to become an elite QB is if he is faced with the reality of being out of a job. Hopefully he finds that motivation while still in Oakland and reaches his potential while still a Raider. If he doesn’t, then I wish him nothing but the worst in all aspects of his post-Raiders life, both on AND off the field. Amen.

  • Seymour Bush

    To Wit:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    It’s completely pathetic. It shows he has NO LIFE
    ================================================
    Richochet Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    No kids?
    No life?
    ============================================

  • SharkCatcher

    forget personl feelings …may the best man with the starting QB job.

  • PassTheCheetos

    seymour the whiners actually moved up two spots to draft anthony davis not back.

  • SteveAlford21

    Lefty,

    I don’t talk about TJ every day. The only times that I’ve mentioned him since his last post were in response to other people talking about how he hasn’t been here and in my comments asking Richochet if he’s seen that movie yet. And yes, that movie reminds me totally and completely of TJ, so it’s not like I’m bringing him up for no reason or constantly talking about him. The only time I mentioned him without someone else mentioning him first was when talking about the movie. Have you seen “Big Fan” yet?

  • SharkCatcher

    y’all sound like girls….I never said this and I never said…gosh..talk football!

  • SharkCatcher

    any word on oren oneal trying out for another team..whats the word on fargas, is he not going to be in the league this next year?

  • lefty12

    Steve-no,I haven’t seen it.
    Got things to do-later.

  • Seymour Bush

    SteveAlford21 I disagree and as a former athlete you can probably relate to what I am about to say. Everyone says Russell is the laziest most slovenly POS on the planet. Have you ever seen the Simpson’s where Moe the Bartender asks Homer, “Hey, Homer, you wanna be heavyweight champion of the world?” “Sure, Moe.”
    Well, it’s not that easy to be heavyweight champ or an NFL Q. No one wakes up, rolls off the couch and has someone walk into their front door and say, how would you like to be a starting Q in the NFL? Uh, sure, why not, I wasn’t doing anything later today anyway. It does not work that way. There is a TON of work that goes into it. You can’t deny that. So, this kid has worked hard. I think there has been a confluence of factors that has kept Russell from being a success in the league: some of it is his fault, some of it has not been his fault.
    It’s not like he got put onto the 1989 SF Whiner Championship roster, and they found him in the upper Haight spiking himself full of heroin.
    It’s time to put it all the garbage behind us, and try to start fresh with some fierce competition to make this team better. Personally, I don’t care who the Raider Q is. Just as long as the guy can go out there and get the job freaking done!

  • SharkCatcher

    What Seymour bush said!

  • Seymour Bush

    # PassTheCheetos Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    seymour the whiners actually moved up two spots to draft anthony davis not back.
    ==========================================

    You are right thank you. My point was, once Spiller was gone, they made a move to shore up their lines. Thank you for the correction.

  • SharkCatcher

    I added a Raider Fan page to my facebook but had to remove it because the idiot that ran it just posted negative fat pics of Jamarcus ..I guess Im from the old school but you dont rip current Raider Players.Loyalty.

  • http://ibbahttp://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 4evaRaider

    #2 is a player?

  • SteveAlford21

    Seymour,

    It is obvious that JR hasn’t put in a lot of work in the physical conditioning aspects of the job. There has been at least one time where he failed to line up players properly for a play… and the RUMORS are that he doesn’t know the playbook fully. The fact that he has thrown quite a few balls to the wrong spots would indicate that there could be some validity to those claims. People blame the young receivers, but I find it hard to believe that Murphy can be 15 yards from where JR throws it (alleged bad route), but be in the right place for Grads and Frye, then have JR come in to play at the end of the season in spots where Frye was out… and those young receivers be in the wrong place again. I think that JR just doesn’t know all the plays and throws to the wrong place sometimes… then he and his apologists blame the WRs because it’s a convenient excuse.

    I honestly DO think that JR hasn’t done any hard work at all. I don’t think he studies film, I don’t think that he’s learned the playbook (indicated by a few bad handoffs and a lot of errant throws), and I honestly think that he relies on his natural physical ability rather than doing any hard work at all. I’m not saying that it’s easy to be an NFL QB. What I’m saying is that JR does less work than any other QB in the NFL, starter or not… and that JR’s physical gifts… and his faith (too much) in them… allow him to do less than he should… and that Al has LET HIM do that. I blame JR and I blame Al. Their combined efforts, or lack thereof, have turned JR into the lazy fatass that we have seen for three years.

  • http://ibbahttp://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 4evaRaider

    RUMORS of #2 not knowing the play-book….rumors

    HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaa

  • http://Noknuckleheads! 909RaiderLifer

    Was checking out the photo “slideshow” over at the Oakland Tribune.

    Russell looks somewhat lighter than last year, didn’t notice any “Skittells” tucked in his belt.

    McLaine looks like a MLB. MEAN.

    Noticed some stout looking “prison grade” razor wire on top of the fence, in a couple of shots.

    Is the wire there to keep the players “in”?…Or…

    To keep “fans” such as, K.K., PriestTJ, and Bri3n “out”?

    Just wondering….

  • http://ibbahttp://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 4evaRaider

    jaskittleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! :)

  • SteveAlford21

    To be more in-depth on the knowing the playbook aspect:

    I think that he knows his 1st and 2nd… maybe 3rd option on most of the plays. There are times where you see him go through his full progression, but those times are very rare. I think that on MOST of the plays, he doesn’t know all the checkdowns, so we see him lock in on receivers or throw to the wrong spot on his 3rd option. I think this is more a case of not knowing where the receiver should be, rather than being a case of an inaccurate throw.

    Then again, it cannot be denied that he has thrown some doozies above and/or behind receivers that we are LUCKY didn’t get someone killed. If he doesn’t fix that SOON, then JR will be responsible for someone’s NFL career ending… because he’s going to hang someone out to dry like that again and bring an end to it all.

    I blame JLH’s “batting all the passes out of the air when he hears footsteps” on JR getting him whacked. Unless I’m mistaken, he had to make an adjustment on the catch when he got his bell run, pulled of the mount, then cracked open with a sledgehammer. I have talked for years about how JR’s inaccuracy would get someone killed… and I think it ruined JLH. I just hope JLH has finally snapped out of it… and I hope that the inaccuracy was because of not knowing where the receiver was going to be, rather than not being accurate… I HOPE.

  • SteveAlford21

    *rung*

  • SteveAlford21

    *off*

  • http://ibbahttp://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 4evaRaider

    Yep JLH is 1 of my favs!

    another in a looooooog series of D’OH’s 4 jaskittle

  • Seymour Bush

    SteveAlford21, earlier in the year the WR’s were certainly more to blame than when Grads and Frye came in later in the season. I was explaining game tape down here on this blog, showing posters how the WR’s ran the wrong route, or were forced off their routes by experienced corners. A good example of that was the very lst drive of the season, against San Diego. You might even remember this. The Raiders were just DRIVING on a backpedaling SD defense. Every thing was clicking. Bush was running well, Russell was completing his passes. Then near the red zone, the SD corner dekes Russell into thinking he is beaten, Russell throws to Murphy who should have come back for the ball, but doesn’t. The corner steps in front, and everyone boos Russell.

  • SteveAlford21

    Seymour,

    That’s why I specifically stated the end of the year in there, too… because there were still inaccurate throws to WRs at the end of the season when JR came in as relief for Frye. This is after the young WRs proved that they know the routes playing with Grads and Frye… yet the ball and the WR end up in two different places.

    Did the WRs regress and forget their routes whenever JR was in the game? Did the WRs intentionally run the wrong routes when JR was in the game? Or does JR just have a problem with knowing where the WR will be/not able to control his throws?

  • http://Noknuckleheads! 909RaiderLifer

    Jerry…

    Three horns, was THREE hours ago…

    MAKE WITH THE FIX!, already…

    Do you have some $$ on the Derby, thus the delay. If so, you get a pass. Just this once…

  • http://Noknuckleheads! 909RaiderLifer

    Just watched some dude who won some contest, get to bet $100k of the prize he won on the #4 horse…

    Must be nice….

  • Seymour Bush

    SteveAlford21 Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    Seymour,

    It is obvious that JR hasn’t put in a lot of work in the physical conditioning aspects of the job.
    =================================================

    That was the big knock on Russell before he was drafted. He has the tendency to balloon in the offseason. That was a big gamble on the part of the Raiders. Russell is a once in a generation type of player there is no doubt about that. I don’t question his ability, I don’t question his commitment, I do question his maturity. Here is a guy that looks like a man going up against boys in other QB prospects of his same age. Until now the game came SOOOOO Easy for him. That is s hard thing to coach. It’s a lot like Mickey Mantle just going out and getting SMASHED the night before games and still excelling. Russell has that kind of natural ability. I think we are going to see a more mature Russell who wants to excel, who does not want to get booed off the field, and who is willing to put the work in.

  • Seymour Bush

    # SteveAlford21 Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 3:12 pm

    Seymour,

    That’s why I specifically stated the end of the year in there, too… because there were still inaccurate throws to WRs at the end of the season when JR came in as relief for Frye. This is after the young WRs proved that they know the routes playing with Grads and Frye… yet the ball and the WR end up in two different places.

    Did the WRs regress and forget their routes whenever JR was in the game? Did the WRs intentionally run the wrong routes when JR was in the game? Or does JR just have a problem with knowing where the WR will be/not able to control his throws?
    ================================================

    I would probably say a little of “A” and a little of “B”. Russell has GOT to play faster. If he played faster, he would be NIGHT AND DAY better.
    That was the lst thing Gruden worked on when he got here. He got the players to practice faster, get the plays in faster, execute faster. He wanted that play off with 25 seconds left on the play clock. Remember, not only was Russell a rookie, but Kiffin was a rookie HC and play caller at the same time, who got replaced by another rookie HC and playcaller. Rookies are going to make mistakes whether they are players OR coaches. To some extent the plays coming in were probably fukked up, or did not get in on time. The difference might be that Grads or Frye were more prepared to just call a play if that happened.

  • buckeyeraider

    Just a few rambling thoughts on Jamarcus. I have a pet peeve. It’s not with one person. But a lot of people, who say “all JR has is a big arm. Thast’s it.” Inevitably somebody says “who cares if he can throw it eighty yards, or sixty yards on his knees, through the goal posts.” Something along those lines. Drives me crazy. It’s not about that.

    The best way I can describe it is watching old NFL Films footage of my all time favorite Raider, “The Judge”, Lester Hayes. He is sitting on the sideline shaking his head in digust, disbelief, and awe of facing a young John Elway. talking to anybody who would listen.”It’s unbelievable. You turn your head, and the ball is just there. UnBelievable.” Jamarcus can do that. He can thread the needle. He can throw the football like nobody’s business.

    Now, there is obviously a lot more to playing pro QB than the physical act of throwing the ball. Besides his off field problems, Jamarcus has holes in his game. He needs to utilize pump fakes, and learn to look off safeties. Those are the finer arts of playing QB that most young QB’s struggle with.

    Remember, Jamarcus came out early. He is raw, and still very young. He is roughtly the same age as incoming rookies. With all of Russells trials and tribulations, many of them brought on by himself, I can understand fans being disapointed. Some even to the point of being disgusted. But the level of vitriol and even hatred directed at this kid, by Raider “fans”, I find puzzling. And a little sad.

    Watch the link to the highlight someone posted on here. You can see the potential is there. Now he has to hone it. Hopefully, the kid has heard his wake up call. Early indications are, according to Jerry, looking encouraging.
    Fair, and open competition. I hope these guys push each other to the limit. Let the best man win.

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    Where’s the fix?? I got ish to do… lol

  • Seymour Bush

    Thank you Buckeye Raider. I saw Elways lst game as a pro from the sideline and I still don’t believe what I saw now 25 years later. And Russell should be able to be THAT GOOD. If any of you really want to know something about Jamarcus Russell, ask some LSU boosters about him. They all say the same thing: he is the closest thing to an otherworldy Q that they have ever had down there, and they all wonder what the hell we did to him.

  • buckeyeraider

    Steve,
    How ya doin? You’ve sold me on the movie. I’m gonna check out Superfan. What plays are you referring to?Where Russell struggled to hook up with his receivers later in the year. I thought russell looked pretty good in his relief appearances.
    Except for the 2nd half Redskin fiasco. But, all I can remember is Orakpo sacking him every time he dropped back. That’s like a repressed memory. Been blacked out.LOL.
    I thought he looked good in the game winning drive against Denver, however. Thought he was even better against Baltimore in the season finale. Until the strip and fumble. My heart sank. I knew his critics were going to have a field day.
    Even on that play, he was doing what his critics say he can’t. Going through his reads. You could see him look deep, check down, and just as he was going to dump it to the fullback, wham.

  • SteveAlford21

    JR was amazing in H.S. and college because he never had to apply himself then. He was a lean and fast 6’5″ in H.S. and was a man playing against boys. At LSU, he wasn’t the focal point of that offense, so there was no pressure on him to make plays. Defenses were trying to stop their vicious ground attack, so his receivers were usually single-covered and were very good at getting open. JR’s amazing natural gifts for the QB position allowed him to excel without having to apply himself. He can’t get away with that at THIS level, though… and he has never awoken to that fact or adapted to the situation. He should have realized that he has to WORK in the NFL by now, but he hasn’t. He still thinks that he is the chosen one and that his failure to progress is the fault of everyone but him.

    I hope he turns it around in Oakland, but if not, I hope he gets a shot with another team, but has to convert to DT… and fails at that, too.

  • http://Noknuckleheads! 909RaiderLifer

    Freaking #4 horse won… Went off at 7-1… nice payout on a $100k bet…

  • SteveAlford21

    Buckeye,

    Hey bro… it’s not Superfan… it’s Big Fan. ;)

    You will LOVE it!

  • Seymour Bush

    buckeyeraider Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    I thought russell looked pretty good in his relief appearances.
    Except for the 2nd half Redskin fiasco. But, all I can remember is Orakpo sacking him every time he dropped back. That’s like a repressed memory. Been blacked out.LOL.
    ==========================================

    If you remember that Redskin game in the Coliseum, the Raiders were playing well behind Grads. On a 3rd down and 11 late in the lst half, Grads hits Murphy for what appeared to be the lst down. The Raiders lined up and ran over RG for three yards, and they reviewed the PRIOR PLAY! We were all up in arms! And then they OVER TURNED THE PRIOR PLAY!! We were outraged! No first down, so the Raiders had to punt, which they did. On the coverage Hiram Eugene breaths on the Skins returner and they gave us a 15 yard penalty!! At this EXACT moment the entire staff went nuts, and John Fassel ran onto the field to express his justified displeasure. ANOTHER FIFTEEN YARD PENALTY!

    The team gave up right then and there, the Skins drove down the field and scored. Needless to say, we were all unbelievably pissed off and upset. Turns out Grads has torn ligaments and can’t start the 2nd half, and as usual, everyone blames Jamarcus Russell.

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