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Raiders slowly catching on

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, May 1st, 2010 at 6:13 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders’ second practice session Saturday, accompanied by a stiff wind, saw far too many passes hit the ground to do much for the comfort level of coach Tom Cable and offensive coordinator Hue Jackson.

For the proper perspective, one needs to flash back a year when the Raiders were atrocious in the passing game. On many of Saturday’s misplays, receivers were at least in the right spots and passes were thrown to the right place.

It’s a matter of securing the ball and putting it away.

A few quick observations:

– Have been asked a time or three about the running backs, Darren McFadden and Michael Bush in particular.

The reason I don’t pay a lot of attention to the running backs is that non-contact practices are set up for their success.

So, yes, McFadden looks terrific. He accelerates quickly, pulls away from defenders and is dangerous in the passing game. Like he always is in these sessions.

Bush looks big and swift, a load to bring down if that was the goal.

For that matter, both Rock Cartwright and Michael Bennett, the latter in on a tryout basis, looked explosive and productive.

– Quarterback JaMarcus Russell got the least amount of work among the four quarterbacks, with Jason Campbell, Charlie Frye and Kyle Boller all getting more work.

For the record, Cable says to pay no mind to depth charts or practice reps during a minicamp.

For practice highlights, check my Twitter page . . .

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235 Responses to “Raiders slowly catching on”

  1. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Seventy-fourth!

  2. Rayda23059 Says:

    1

  3. Rayda23059 Says:

    75th

  4. MistaBrown Says:

    For the record I don’t even pay much attention to T Cable.
    _____

    For the record, Cable says to pay no mind to depth charts or practice reps during a minicamp.

  5. Plunketthead Says:

    For the record, my Cable jersey looks better every day

  6. Richochet Says:

    Well, let’s see…

    DHB is dropping easy balls.
    McFumble looks good..as long as there is no tackling.
    Russell is missing wide open receivers, and throwing interceptions.

    Thank God they’re other wide receivers, other running backs, and other qb’s on the roster.

  7. Just Win Baby Says:

    Stanford Routt sucks. He is proof that Al Davis is still insane. Be ready to watch this fool give up long touchdowns all season long. That’s what he does best. I can’t even fathom how you tender a first and third round offer to this guy. Horrible.

  8. Seymour Bush Says:

    Richochet Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    Well, let’s see…
    ======================================

    How’d the Whiner practice look whiny-sheeit? How does Ginn and Alex Smith look Whiner?

  9. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 4:28 pm

    The Godfather just arrived at practice. This should be good.
    =========================
    lol..you’re such a dweeb…”the godfather”?? obviously you have no idea what that means, and you sure as hell didn’t see the movie…

    Well, I guess it could be worse..you could have posted something on the line of what you said about JR…

    Seymour Bush Says:
    March 24th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
    I am still not giving up on Russell.
    I have his poster over my bed, and everynight when I fall asleep, I abuse my self just thinking about his milky thighs.
    Oh darn, getting wet again.

  10. Seymour Bush Says:

    Just Win Baby Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    Stanford Routt sucks.
    ==================================

    Routt blows and sucks at the same time. How can someone do that?

  11. Seymour Bush Says:

    Seriously richochet, How’s your Whiner team looking? You wearing your Montana jersey right now?

  12. Richochet Says:

    DAMN….LOOK AT THAT…I told you…this sorryass geek just sits there, reading this blog…just waiting…waiting…waiting….

    and within MINUTES OF ME POSTING…there he is.

    Like clockwork…lol…damn you’re pathetic Oakdork.

  13. Seymour Bush Says:

    You happy about trading up to get Anthony Davis richochet?

  14. DirtyBathWater Says:

    D-rops
    H-is
    B-alls

  15. Richochet Says:

    Niners look pretty good, according to reports.

    Russell? Looks like Russell…like shyte.

    DHB?? as bad as DHB usually looks.

    Aren’t you so glad you stuck your neck out for both of them, dumbass? lol…

    Damn that was ignorant.

  16. Plunketthead Says:

    Is it reasonable to expect vast improvement on both sides of the trenches over last year?
    That means running game is better and Cambell assures us of much improved play at QB.

    We will finally kick the crap out of the dolts.
    Then we dominate the AFC west for the next 4 years.
    JR is a great QB Get over it

  17. Seymour Bush Says:

    No, I have been posting most of the pm. YOU have a real ego problem don’t you? You have been told here a million times, No one cares what you think POS. Maybe other Whiner fans think you’re cool, but here, you are just a Red and gold POS. At least now we all know.

  18. Seymour Bush Says:

    Richochet Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    Niners look pretty good,
    ===================================

    Glad to hear it. Now get the fook out of here, Whiner.

  19. Richochet Says:

    Davis was a great pick by the Niners…they love it.

    Now about Russell…

  20. DirtyBathWater Says:

    i dont see how or why we offer routt a contract. i mean, really what nfl team would want a guy who can only run fast????? he cant cover sht if he were a cow in a 10ft barn

  21. Richochet Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    March 24th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
    I am still not giving up on Russell.
    I have his poster over my bed, and everynight when I fall asleep, I abuse my self just thinking about his milky thighs.
    Oh darn, getting wet again.

  22. Seymour Bush Says:

    Now you have to repost troll posts Whiner? Why don’t you go to the SF Whiner blog where you belong. Whiners suck ass dude.

  23. Richochet Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 4:28 pm

    The Godfather just arrived at practice. This should be good.
    =========================
    lol..you’re such a dweeb…”the godfather”?? obviously you have no idea what that means, and you sure as hell didn’t see the movie…

    Well, I guess it could be worse..you could have posted something on the line of what you said about JR…

    Seymour Bush Says:
    March 24th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
    I am still not giving up on Russell.
    I have his poster over my bed, and everynight when I fall asleep, I abuse my self just thinking about his milky thighs.
    Oh darn, getting wet again.

  24. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Speaking of Red and Gold…

    I picked up a Joe Montana Autographed Mini-Helmet a few years ago at a sports shop in Phoenix. I have no idea why I got it… it just seemed like a good idea at the time… I figured that I could hold onto it for a few years and then make a profit on it. Well, I feel that the time to sell it has come upon me, so if anyone here knows of anyone who might want to buy it, just let me know. I’m going to put it on ebay with reserve of $15, but if anyone wants to save me the listing fee, I’ll sell it right now for $175.

  25. Plunketthead Says:

    I think JR got too into booze, purp, sherm, pain pills, or robi.

    That would account for the drastic change over the summer one year ago.

    It may not be very likely but it is possible that he can stop being his own worse enemy.

  26. DirtyBathWater Says:

    richochet still at it i see, being a pest as usual

  27. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    Now you have to repost troll posts Whiner? Why don’t you go to the SF Whiner blog where you belong. Whiners suck ass dude.
    ——————–
    They do suck ass..but what is obvious is you should NEVER EVER try to discuss them or the Raiders..because I’ll shred your sorry inept ass every time you stupidly try.

  28. Seymour Bush Says:

    You can’t make money on autographs of modern athletes because they literally sign millions of autographs. Maybe you can sell to richochet: he’s a Whiner fan.

  29. Seymour Bush Says:

    You couldn’t shred a paper cup if you had a shredding machine you dummass Whiner fan.

  30. Seymour Bush Says:

    You got season tickets to the SF Whiners richochet?

  31. Richochet Says:

    I missed your answer Oakdork…how is it you’re so alone?

    No wife.
    No kids.
    No girlfriend.
    and yes, no life…so what’s up?

  32. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Actually, after tax, that’s only five bucks more than it cost when I got it… but I think it’s been bad luck to even OWN the thing… so I’ll still take $175 for it. It even has the personal Joe hologram sticker that he put on it himself when he signed it.

  33. Seymour Bush Says:

    Are you going to follow the Whiners when they move down to LA after the Santa Clara Stadium falls thru?

  34. Seymour Bush Says:

    Actually, I am on my way out right now. But I thought I would put one more ass kicking on you before I go. So, it’s Saturday night and instead of spending it with your wife, friends and family, you are trolling an internet site. THAT is really sad. It must REALLY SUCK TO BE YOU WHINER>

  35. Richochet Says:

    That’s it? LMFAO..you think I care if you say I’m a Niner fan?
    You ignorant slapped on feminine POS…I DON’T CARE, lol…you dumbass.

    What I care about is you’re a loser.

    that you have no one.

    that you date 15 year olds.

    that you’re stupid…

    that’s what’s important :)

  36. jmeds Says:

    How we passed on Crabtree is still a question I just can’t seem to answer. We are young and raw at reciever. We need to bring in TO. He seems to have matured and would give our offense a threat to be reckoned with on a regular basis giving DHB the third or fourth best cover guy. Obviously Shillens and Murphy are ahead of him at this point. I just hope Hue utilizes are skill players accordingly. Mcfadden should be on the field 70% of the time. In the slot, out-wide, etc. I think against Washington last year he was used right for a half then disappeared for some unknown reason. Bush is the horse and needs 20 carries a game. I actually think with a proven consistent threat on offense we will be tough to play with. Hopefully a young guy steps up but as of now, it is a crap shoot.

  37. Raiders slowly catching on (PM Notes)... - Oakland Raiders Forum | Message Board - Where the Raider Nation lives! Says:

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  38. Seymour Bush Says:

    You’re a Whiner fan. Eff you and your SF Phony Whiners you trolling loser. How much Whiner gear do you have at home? You never answered.

  39. MistaBrown Says:

    Something YOU only do 365 days a year.

    ____

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    Now you have to repost troll posts Whiner?

  40. Seymour Bush Says:

    jmeds Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    How we passed on Crabtree is still a question I just can’t seem to answer.
    =====================================
    Crabtree is a possession receiver. We had one of those in Shilens. Crabtree is not a speed burner, he is an underneath guy. We desperately needed someone to spread the field, not run underneath routes. There is NO ONE in the last draft with Heyward-Beys size and speed. That’s why we took him over Crabtree last season.

  41. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Seymour,

    I will make money on it if I sell it for a buck. I went to the guy’s shop to look at jerseys and IMMEDIATELY realized that they were all counterfeit. I told the dude that I was gonna report that crap before he swindled anyone else out of their money and he said to pick something from the store and take it. I said I wouldn’t want anything of his, it was probably all fake and he said that I could check the certificate of authenticity for the autographed items and look up their serial #s online to verify. The only thing he had that I was willing to take was the Joe Helmet (no Raiders stuff AT ALL… except for some counterfeit jerseys), so I checked the numbers on it and it was legit. I ALMOST turned it down and reported him, but figured I’d just take the helmet and hold onto it for a few years and let it go up in value and then sell it.

    The name of the place is the Card Co-Op (or Coop… can’t remember) in Phoenix. I believe it’s on 19th and Union Station. Everyone should feel free to go in there and blackmail the cheating P.o.S. for trying to rip people off. ;)

  42. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    Actually, I am on my way out right now. But I thought I would put one more ass kicking on you before I go.
    ===================================
    LMFAO…who in the hell, before they go out, HAS TO STOP IN??

    LYING ASS DOG..YOU’RE FULL OF SHYTE…I POSTED, and two minutes later,..THERE YOU WERE.

    You waited for me..loser…and now that I called you out for having nothing..no one…no wife, no family, no date…NOW..ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU NOW ARE GOING OUT?

    lol…tuck that tail, beyotch..quiver away, little boy, and sit there…ALL NIGHT LONG…reading..lol…as you hope the 15 year old skank comes by.

    15??? Damn…you guys play Chutes and Ladders..or what?

  43. Seymour Bush Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    Something YOU only do 365 days a year.
    ==================================

    look who slithered out of the toilet to rescue his boyfriend…

  44. SteveAlford21 Says:

    And if you think the story has changed… scroll up and look at the exact language that I used when talking about earlier. Never once did I say that I BOUGHT it or PAID FOR it. You may have inferred that because my choice of words implied that, but I never claimed to have bought it. ;)

  45. Plunketthead Says:

    Joe has not signed as much stuff as most people, has he?

    If so now would be a good time to get rid of it. He is looking for paydays now.

  46. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    jmeds Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    How we passed on Crabtree is still a question I just can’t seem to answer.
    =====================================
    Crabtree is a possession receiver. We had one of those in Shilens. Crabtree is not a speed burner, he is an underneath guy. We desperately needed someone to spread the field, not run underneath routes. There is NO ONE in the last draft with Heyward-Beys size and speed. That’s why we took him over Crabtree last season.

    =========================
    You DUMBASS…”possession receiver”?? “Not a speed burner”?? HE HELD EVERY RECORD IN COLLEGE…and Bey had? ZERO..NONE, you moron.

    your ignorant ass stated Al shouldn’t take him FOR ONE REASON…BECAUSE HE WAS NOT GOING TO SIGN..yet, he did..and in ONE GAME, outplayed Bey from his previous 5 games…you, moron, are an idiot.

  47. Seymour Bush Says:

    Richochet, how much Whiner gear do you own? why won’t you answer? Are you ashamed of your Whiner roots? Or do you need mistabrOwndildo to fight your battles for you again?

  48. Richochet Says:

    Are you avoiding the question?

    You avoid every question…why is that?

    HOW IS IT YOU’RE IN YOUR LATE 40′S, AND YOU HAVE NO ONE?

    No wife??/ What?? you a loser? Ugly? stupid? all the above?

    No kids?? Haven’t figured that out yet?

    Nothing? lol…

  49. Richochet Says:

    Let’s laugh at this:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    April 29th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
    Something tells me if we cut Russell today Indy, New England or Denver would pick him up, let him sit for two years, watch him mature and then he would win 10+games a year for the next ten years.

  50. Seymour Bush Says:

    Richochet Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    You DUMBASS…”possession receiver”?? “Not a speed burner”?? HE HELD EVERY RECORD IN COLLEGE…and Bey had? ZERO..NONE, you moron.
    ================================================

    ARE YOU GETTING STUPIDER BY THE SECOND? records in college don’t translate to speed receiver versus possession receiver. You just missed the point as usual, you damn idiot. You don’t know ANYTHING do you? Where’s your boyfriend to help you out? I have to go.

  51. Seymour Bush Says:

    Richochet, how much Whiner gear do you own? why won’t you answer? Are you ashamed of your Whiner roots? Or do you need mistabrOwndildo to fight your battles for you again?

    You still haven’t answered.

  52. Seymour Bush Says:

    What a fuktard. Internet Troll is the lowest of the low. And a Sf Phony Whiner troll? Lowest of the lowest of the low. How many felonies did your loser owner cop to suckwad? Good night.

  53. Richochet Says:

    Richochet Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    and after not being here for hours????

    Seymour Bush Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    MINUTES AFTER I GET HERE…

    How freaking sad is it that someone just keeps refreshing…over, and over and over and over and over..just waiting for someone to post.

    That is sorryass pathetic…and needy, lol.

  54. Richochet Says:

    After challenging SeyGlenn on why he has no dates…no family…no kids..nothing, while he’s in his late 40’s…he THEN REPLIES: ‘Just going out.’

    THAT WAS AROUND A DOZEN POSTS AGO, lol…

    No leave…and sit and read.

    I’m warning you, Oakglenn…don’t make me come in there with a belt.

  55. Richochet Says:

    *so leave

  56. Plunketthead Says:

    Seymour

    You are coming unhinged just like that Oakglen dude did before he split.

    You should not let them rent space in your head.
    No offense meant

  57. Richochet Says:

    Oakglen “proudly” still lives in the projects, as he’s admitted..well, actually bragged “Been here off Foothill all my life, and proud of it, and don’t plan on going anywhere”..where his big night out is hitting the corner liquor store, and, as he stated “hang out with my homies”

    Boy..does that sound like a hoot, or what???

    “hanging out with the homies, on the corner, swilling cheap beer and rotgut wine”..

    Something to aspire too, no doubt, lol.

  58. Richochet Says:

    # Plunketthead Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 6:58 pm

    Seymour

    You are coming unhinged just like that Oakglen dude did before he split.

    You should not let them rent space in your head.
    No offense meant
    ================================
    lol…he’s got numerous handles…at the ready, just in case blastoff is eminent ;)

  59. Plunketthead Says:

    I would like to see another IP match list.

    I suspect a few people have more then one handle.

  60. MistaBrown Says:

    Plunk was there an IP list at one time? I never saw it.

  61. SaintKaufman Says:

    Steel Panther rules!! :D

    Go Raiders.

  62. kvnbntly Says:

    multiple personality disorders possibly lol,
    sounds like this rookie class is getting things a little fired up.

  63. Plunketthead Says:

    Actually, I never saw it, but I was off the net for 6 months this time last year.

  64. MistaBrown Says:

    Hey SeymourGlen,
    Looks like you really aren’t fooling anybody with this name why dont you dream up a new one!

    ____

    # Plunketthead Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 6:58 pm

    Seymour

    You are coming unhinged just like that Oakglen dude did before he split.

    You should not let them rent space in your head.
    No offense meant

  65. MistaBrown Says:

    Plunk, you know Seymour isnt the sharpest marble so when you say things like on #56 they go right over his little empty head..

  66. MistaBrown Says:

    Chaz Schilens = Arman Shields if he doesn’t get himself healthy for at least a 10 game stretch.

  67. fat kidd Says:

    John Madden said if he had only one phone call to make, he’d dial Al Davis. Many of Davis’ former players – and current attorneys – might agree. The legendary anti-hero is among the most brilliant, loyal and litigious figures in sports today. Some compare him to Castro – charismatic, controlling, and a man who made an entire landscape in his own image.

    Davis dresses in silver and black in homage to the Black Knights of Army (more on that later). He signed people worthy of ultimate fighting – Jack (the Assassin) Tatum, Kenny (the Snake) Stabler, Ted (the Mad Stork) Hendricks. He slicks back his hair, wears a black jogging outfit and tells his team to “Just win,
    baby

  68. Plunketthead Says:

    He may choose to ignore it, but it’s good advice

  69. Plunketthead Says:

    Utuh
    “Just win baby” gets everyone in trouble

  70. ambulance Says:

    Can we get back to talking football? You sound like a bunch of girls.

  71. Plunketthead Says:

    Go ahead and talk football while we chat

  72. Richochet Says:

    What was really funny is where Oakglenn posted his swan song..saying “I’m done with this place.” where he then signs on as BSDetector to try and convince himself to stay…actually stating “You have so many good points. This board needs you. I hope you reconsider”…

    that was some funny stuff

  73. Richochet Says:

    # ambulance Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    Can we get back to talking football? You sound like a bunch of girls.
    ===================
    bite your tongue, Missy..
    SeyGlenn has a vicious roundhouse with his new Louis Vuitton purse…

  74. Richochet Says:

    Hey Ambulance…tell me about JR’s good points..

  75. MistaBrown Says:

    Its almost unbelievable to observe OakGlen make a new screen name and then resume fighting with me and Richocet and then deny its him, he has no qualms about doing exactly that and then he gives himself props from his new alias.

    lmao

  76. hwnrdr Says:

    Ok…what would be our brightspots (if any) we would have this year?

  77. Kirk Says:

    #70, LOL.

    We drafted DHB instead of Crabtree because Al doesn’t watch film.

    I watched 10 minutes of film and could tell that Crabtree was going to be great, and DHB had nothing.

    There is a big difference between speed and quickness.

  78. Plunketthead Says:

    MB

    Are you trying to tell me Ambu = seymour?

  79. Plunketthead Says:

    Al & Cable have a no knuckleheads rule
    Thats why they passed on Crabtree

  80. MistaBrown Says:

    No Plunk I didn’t say Ambu = SeyGlen but I did notice SeymourGlen split and a fresh face name Ambulance has shown up & wants to change the subject.

    :D

  81. MistaBrown Says:

    SeymourGlen, did you call yourself a ambulance?

  82. Plunketthead Says:

    I better be careful what I say or I will wind up on someones craplist.

    I dont know if I can fend off type taunts 24/7

  83. Plunketthead Says:

    I think the entire team will be a bright spot.
    Improvements all the way around combined with the no knuckleheads rule and Al’s desire to win has us in the playoffs this year.

    Book it, Danno

  84. RaiderFanFromJersey Says:

    Hue Jackson, all over these guys! Perfection is all he’s asking for; now go out there and give it to him/us!!! Just Win Baby!!!

  85. Plunketthead Says:

    Hue is another brightspot, His coaching should make a huge difference.

  86. hwnrdr Says:

    I agree Plunk!

  87. RaiderFanFromJersey Says:

    Smash-mouth football mixed in with speedy recievers stretching the field off of playaction, a stout non-pourous defense mixing in some new looks, a non-pourous OL that plays with some nastiness & tenacity… Lets Go men! Honor those colors uniforms and put the world on notice: The Silver & Black Attack Is Back!!!!!!!!!!!

  88. ambulance Says:

    I’m nobody’s puppet s/n. As far as bright spots for jamarcus? Well we’ve positioned him into a spot where its do or die for him. Trading for Campbell sent him a clear message and puts the pressure on. If he succeeds we win. If he doesn’t we win with Campbell. Were in a good spot. Koolaid aside we have a lot to look forward to.

  89. RaiderFanFromJersey Says:

    Koolaid??
    Ya’ll got Koolaid???
    I got my cup ready, pour away!!!

    “everybody’s got they cups but they aint chipped in…”

  90. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Mr. O’Shea,

    I know that you addressed the question to the guy who called us girls, but since I criticize the lazy fatass QB a lot, I’ll field that question regarding JR’s good points (this time I will limit my responses to things that are football-related):

    He has a VERY strong arm.

    When he was a slender high schooler, he was mobile and very good at keeping plays alive with his feet, then getting the ball downfield for a big gain. Hopefully, he can get in shape and regain that ability… it would be a VERY good point. (In high school, he was only one inch shorter than he is now, so it’s not like it’s impossible for him to get skinny on his current frame, it would just take a LOT of work… but if you’ll notice his arms… they aren’t big, so his body WANTS to be slender, but he’s put a LOT of meat and fat around his middle and in his ass and thighs. He needs to get rid of all of that to add another dimension to his game… one that would be pricelessly valuable.)

    He is VERY durable… it’s hard to injure that big dude.

    His play drastically elevates under extreme game-situation pressure. (The problem is that he only feels that pressure if there is under three minutes left and we are within 7 points… AND he is coming off the bench to do it. ANY other time and he doesn’t care about anything. Another imcompletion… “Oh well, doesn’t matter… I got paid.” He has to find a way to bring that sense of urgency and importance toward his play on EVERY snap.)

    He is a FANTASTIC lead-blocker. Just check out his downfield blocking on reverse/end-around plays If he doesn’t work out at QB, we have found our bruising Fullback… or LT if he can improve his footwork… or DT if he can learn to hold onto someone else and take them with him when he falls down… but judging from his inability to hold onto a football as he falls, this might be wishful thinking.

    Although he doesn’t throw screens well… or dumpoffs… or outs… or flies… or flags… or deep posts… or swings… or spots… or out and ups… or drags…
    he DOES throw seam routes, curls/hooks, and short slants pretty well. He usually puts way too much heat on them and throws them high/behind the receivers about half the time, they are still the strength of his passing game as long as they are between 7 and 15 yard patterns.

    He sells the play-action pretty well.

    He hands off with authority and makes workable pitches.

    His shovel passes are accurate… in fact, that’s the only time he exhibits ANY touch at all and keeps the velocity below 70mph.

    He keeps his eyes downfield. (Unfortunately, he usually locks onto only one receiver and doesn’t know how to use his eyes/helmet to “look off” a DB… or only looks at a couple of options downfield… and pays no attention to ANYTHING or ANYONE in the backfield or the oncoming rush, feeling no pressure and having no pocket presence… but nevertheless, he DOES keep his focus downfield.)

    When he actually eludes the rush and decides to take off, he picks up very good yardage with his feet, even though he’s pretty damned slow.

    He’s nearly unstoppable on the QB Sneak.

    I can’t think of any more things that he does well… and that’s a pretty pathetic list… but there’s potential there… somewhere. At least he MIGHT be able to become great if he gets his mind right and gets some urgency and QUICKNESS about him. The QUICKNESS is the biggest reason that I want him to lose weight… so that he can get out from under center, finish his drop, and MAYBE elude the rush to extend the play and complete the pass or pick up some yardage with his feet.

  91. Jonesy941 Says:

    drop russel move on! please give campbell and grads the most snaps and who ever wins wins

  92. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Good post Steve, Actually made it worth it to wade thru all the crap. Maybe Russell is improved this season, maybe not. No matter what I think our Raiders are a better team this year.

  93. Raider75 Says:

    Mosley strong early, but Mayweather starting to take control.

    Going into Round 7

  94. Just Win Says:

    RAAAAAAAIIIDDDDDEEERRRSSS!!!!!!

  95. Kirk Says:

    Ditch the zone blocking system. It hasn’t worked. Go back to blowing people off the line of scrimage.

  96. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I’ve got the ESPN chat thing in another window. They’re saying it’s all Mayweather.

  97. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/fightcred/round?id=5129665

  98. SteveAlford21 Says:

    Kirk,

    The zone blocking system is fine… it’s the PLAYERS that suck. Our personnel on the line has done a terrible job. If you think they did badly in the ZBS, then you would kill yourself if you saw them try to power block. We need big meanies on our OL, not guys who are CALLED smaller and athletic. The ZBS would work fine for us IF our OL personnel WERE smaller and athletic… but in reality, they’re just smaller.

    If we improve on the OL in terms of better personnel (bigger, stronger, better athletes), then it won’t matter if we are more ZBS or more power schemes… the results will drastically improve. You can’t blame the system when the personnel suck. It would be like blaming the play when DMC fumbles or blaming the vertical philosophy when JR throws an interception. The ZBS is fine when the lineman can perform.

  99. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Plunkethead, no knuckleheads rule? We have a head coach who gets in fist fights with assistants. We have an owner more concerned with playing games with the press than cutting players that need to be cut. And we haven’t even got to the team yet. In Oakland, it’s knuckleheads, who create distraction after distraction, from the top down.

  100. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    As far as improvement goes? Not to where we’re competitive. Big deal if we improved a little on paper. Have we improved to the point where we’re a playoff team? Not even close.

  101. Raider75 Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    I’ve got the ESPN chat thing in another window. They’re saying it’s all Mayweather.
    ……….

    rd 10 starting. Mayweather firmly in control

  102. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    5-11, till Al’s casket drops. Or until he retires, or hires a real GM. But you guys know the former will likely happen first.

  103. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    ESPN: “Shane looks wobbly”

  104. Raider75 Says:

    Mayweather is schoolin Mosely

  105. On the beach in Cancun Says:

    This year will confirm who is better. The Bey or the Crab.
    Last year proved nothing because of their rookie status and because of the problems both teams had.

    I think we’ll be surprised with the Bey, as he has the speed and the Crab can’t learn speed. You either have it or you don’t. I think the Bey will improve with his catching and route running and that might make him the better pick in the long run. Also, the Crab has a bad attitude and really thinks (wrongly) that he the next Jerry Rice, and that’s not going to happen.

  106. Raider75 Says:

    last round

  107. Raider75 Says:

    11-1 Mayweather

  108. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Cancun, get real. Crabtree proved to be far better last year, and there was plenty to judge on.

  109. On the beach in Cancun Says:

    The Pac needs to fight the runner in an 18 foot ring so that they would have to go toe to toe. The Pac would prevail.

  110. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I’m sorry if I’m offensive, but I just don’t see the point in looking at what we have and pretending it’s good. I’d rather get something good. And I don’t think we have it. And I think Al’s antics, along with the crap he allows (Cable’s antics), serve as debilitating distractions to this team.

  111. On the beach in Cancun Says:

    Ya, you’re right and I can’t argue that. However, I saying that the rookie year, with both teams having numerous problems, wasn’t a fair measuring stick. Not for the over all and that this year will really allow us to gauge their differences. I think the Crab’s bad attitude will work against him and that the Bey, who really desires to excel (my opinion) will prevail in the long run.

  112. Just Win Says:

    DHB will have a better year! Murphy will have a better year! We have 3 first round QB’s! Raaaaaiiiidddderrrrrrsss!

  113. Raider75 Says:

    anyone got a good movie website?

  114. Just Win Says:

    Our offensive line will be better. We got a couple of studs on defense. RAAAAIIIIDDEEERRRRRSSSSS!!

  115. Just Win Says:

    Mike Huff and Mike Mitchell will be better! We have Pro Bowl kickers. We will have better special teams! RAAAAAIIIIIDDDDERSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  116. Just Win Says:

    RAAAAAIIIIIDDDDERSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    RAAAAAIIIIIDDDDERSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  117. mack-madden Says:

    Shane fought like he had sugar in his tank …

  118. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Shane was wired b4 and during the 1st 2-3 rounds. Lactic acid build up and adrenaline left him jittery thru out.

    Mosely ROCKED Floyd early and staggered him ,but Floyd found his range and went to work on him.

    This fight was 2 years too late for Mosely.

    IF Paquiao ever decideds to an olympic pee test in a timely manner THAT would be the fight of the new century…

  119. Nnamdi21 Says:

    On the beach in Cancun Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 9:37 pm
    Ya, you’re right and I can’t argue that. However, I saying that the rookie year, with both teams having numerous problems, wasn’t a fair measuring stick. Not for the over all and that this year will really allow us to gauge their differences. I think the Crab’s bad attitude will work against him and that the Bey, who really desires to excel (my opinion) will prevail in the long run.

    ========================

    Differnt types of receivers really. Bey stretches the field asnd is a deep threat more so than Crabs. I think Crabs will have the better year if he stays healthy…

    I hope Bey becomes a pro bowler in a few short years.

    I think its more about composure at this point for Bey. can’t argue that Crbas is the more sure handed…

  120. Nnamdi21 Says:

    The reason I don’t pay a lot of attention to the running backs is that non-contact practices are set up for their success.

    ==================

    Jerry’s been burned b4 by DMC the mini camp hero.

    Hope he has a pro bowl 1,000 yd year. Our Qb needs it.

  121. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Jerry McD I hope you’re enjoying your night.

    Said it B4 say it again, lucky to have you.

    Peace!

  122. Raiders4eve Says:

    Nnamdi21

    With the way Schillens been getting hurt and since he is already injured, I would rather have had Crabtree then DHB. Its easy to find 4.3 wrs like Ford or JLH who can stretch the field but hard to find a solid impact WR like Crabtree. Knox from Chicago was a fourth rounder and he played better then DHB with incredible speed (personally I think he is faster then DHB). Besides, I haven’t seen DHB out running any CBs except when he is pushed out of bounds. I never liked that pick, its waste of money, mark me down saying it, DHB is going to be a bust. I said it first.

  123. Raiders4eve Says:

    Mayweather is the best technician and counter punch master. Pacquio is similar to mosley, speed and power punch, mayweather dictates the game, he slows it down and keeps gaining points through his counter punch. Pacquio has no chance vs. the moneymaker.

  124. Just Win Says:

    Raiders4eve Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    Nnamdi21

    With the way Schillens been getting hurt and since he is already injured, I would rather have had Crabtree then DHB. Its easy to find 4.3 wrs like Ford or JLH who can stretch the field but hard to find a solid impact WR like Crabtree.
    =======================================

    Shilens wasn’t hurt when we drafted DHB. It is easier to find possession guys than 4.3 guys. RAAAIIIIDDDDERRRSSS!

  125. SteveAlford21 Says:

    I have faith that Al has finally done what I’ve wanted for so long and LISTENED to other people… and then gone a step further and TAKEN THEIR ADVICE. He still needs to get more COMPETENT help in the front office (preferably in the form of a great football-minded GM) and still needs to give more autonomy to the coaches in terms of personnel decisions and playcalling (e.g. No more direct phone line to the field so that he can call for the bomb when he wants. Warren Sapp is a total piece of sh-it, but I believe him about that).

    we need a big run-stuffing DT (or two) to anchor this line. My vote is to sign Henderson while he’s STILL available or try to sign for one of the surly, problematic prima donna DTs out there who are dissatisfied with their current situations or having problems that would make their team okay with a trade (Haynesworth, Shaun Rogers). We have a couple of undrafted free agent rookie FBs that COULD address that glaring need, so I’m HOPING that isn’t an issue anymore (after SEEING the pics of them at camp, I’m impressed with the big one)… but we need to evaluate those kids quickly and pick up a bruising lead-blocking FB that can catch 15-20 passes per season if they aren’t the solution.

    We still need a BIG improvement at C… and if anyone can handle having a bigtime union rep in the lockerroom, it’s Al… so we NEED to sign Mawae immediately and find out if he has any gas left in the tank (coming off a great season, so he SHOULD be a good temporary fix while we groom a young guy under Mawae’s tutelage to take over as the C of the future). We need MUCH better play at both tackle and guard spots. Maybe we have that improved personnel already after the draft, but I’m not much on crossing my fingers and hoping for the best… so Al really needs to get on the phone and trade for some elite OTs, Gs, and hell… find us a C that’s better than Mawae if you can! We sure as hell have enough DBs and 2011/2012 draft picks that we should be able to barter a bit and make a trade that will garner SOMETHING.

    If we can get a big anchor in the middle of the DL, then I firmly believe that our DBs and the big changes to the LB corps will get us a top 10 pass D and a top 10 run D… as long as they take an AVERAGE number of defensive snaps. To achieve that goal, we will have to find some great players to vastly improve the OL (especially at Center), and get a John Ritchie clone that can blow up some defenders, so that the offense can stay on the field for an AVERAGE number of plays per game… and keep our vastly improved (already, except at DT) off the field and fresh. If we can get those improvements, then I am confident rolling into this season with all the same “skill position” players that we already have. I would even be willing to bet on a .500 season with JaMarcus starting if we did all that. … well, okay… maybe not with JaMarcus… but definitely with Gradkowski, Campbell, Frye, and maybe Boller.

    Continue the positive progress, Al. These things need to come to pass… get them done! Don’t regress back to the things that you have done for the past seven seasons… we’ve seen what that brings. We’re on a positive road again… and the transition to excellence can only proceed if you keep giving others more say, Al. I believe that Al still has a lot of good to do for this team… but working by himself, with total control and no competent help or input from people who know the modern game will do nothing but regress us back to 2-14. I am pleased with the way things have gone for the past month, but I’m not satisfied, nor will I be until Al proves that the past few weeks aren’t just a fluke, but rather a foreshadowing of things to come… all positive and wrought about by everyone having a hand in things rather than an autonomy of outdated philosophy.

  126. JB Says:

    SteveAlford21 Post 90

    Nice analysis & well thought out. Can’t argue with any of the points you stated.

  127. Nnamdi21 Says:

    McClain and LBs look better and O line holds some surprises.

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/2010_off_season

  128. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Raiders4eve Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 10:32 pm
    Mayweather is the best technician and counter punch master. Pacquio is similar to mosley, speed and power punch, mayweather dictates the game, he slows it down and keeps gaining points through his counter punch. Pacquio has no chance vs. the moneymaker.

    ============================

    Great offense, impenetrable D.

    He got knocked onto queer street early on but it simply got his head in the game and it was over from that point on.

  129. 408RAIDER Says:

    ┌∩┐[•_•]┌∩┐

  130. Kirk Says:

    DHB is a bust. He couldn’t get it done at Maryland or here. But we will waste time on him because Al can’t believe he could ever be wrong.

  131. A.B. Paine II Says:

    ESPN’s Outside The Lines is all about Jamarcus today.

  132. Raider75 Says:

    # 408RAIDER Says:
    May 2nd, 2010 at 5:38 am

    ┌∩┐[•_•]┌∩┐
    ……….

    lol

  133. raidertbone Says:

    I certainly thought the Raiders would cut bait with Jaloser before the mini-camps started. Now, if he gets injured, we’re on the hook for $9 million. I can’t figure out whether Al is just desperate to NOT catapault the Raiders organization to the top of the All-Time Draft Bust list by jettison-ing the fat load, or if he’s just treating #2 as a 24 year-old draft pick just trying to make the team. There is NO WAY you can give him the keys to the offense this year — he destroyed everything around him over the past two seasons. Maybe Al figures that keeping #2 around will make Jason Campbell work harder — truth be known, I feel comfortable with J. Campbell and Grads … let’s save our money and go out and grab an impact defensive line player!

  134. Teabag Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    Davis was a great pick by the Niners…they love it.

    Now about Russell…
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Rahway, NJ here… Saw Anthony Davis play in every home game last year and my brother in law was on Rutgers squad 2 years ago and knows him very well…

    Davis is fat and lazy… he got over on pure athleticism at the college level in a weak division..

    He is also VERY weak in the weight room…. Another Andre Smith, but even lazier….

    Good luck with that pick.. it was a horrible one..

  135. raidertbone Says:

    The Raiders really did their homework on the draft this year … it shocked a lot of the nay-sayers. I believe we putting together the nucleus of a solid team for a few years to come.

  136. raidertbone Says:

    DHB isn’t as much of a bust as JaLoser. Many of us thought that #2 had all the physical skills and presence to lead the team — we were DEAD wrong. However, I haven’t talked to a single person that ever believed DHB was worthy of a first-round selection. I wouldn’t call that a bust – just screwed up thinking on the part of an owner (Al must have had a mini-stroke just before making that pick!)

  137. Jonesy941 Says:

    j russel is a major bust if not the biggest ever DHB was just chosen to high not so much a bust cant say till he plays more i think he could be a decent player we will see soon enough

  138. raidertbone Says:

    # Jonesy941 Says:
    May 2nd, 2010 at 7:20 am

    j russel is a major bust if not the biggest ever DHB was just chosen to high not so much a bust cant say till he plays more i think he could be a decent player we will see soon enough
    ____________________________

    While he could be a decent receiver, we will all RUE the day we selected him at #7 overall when we could’ve gotten a stellar O-lineman or D-lineman at that spot and perhaps STILL come away with DHB as a second round pick. I don’t think he will ever be able to measure up in regards to where he was drafted.

  139. Jonesy941 Says:

    post #125 nice agree with what you have to say. except the j russel thing russel=ryan leafs new bf

  140. Jonesy941 Says:

    # raidertbone Says:
    May 2nd, 2010 at 7:30 am

    # Jonesy941 Says:
    May 2nd, 2010 at 7:20 am

    j russel is a major bust if not the biggest ever DHB was just chosen to high not so much a bust cant say till he plays more i think he could be a decent player we will see soon enough
    ____________________________

    While he could be a decent receiver, we will all RUE the day we selected him at #7 overall when we could’ve gotten a stellar O-lineman or D-lineman at that spot and perhaps STILL come away with DHB as a second round pick. I don’t think he will ever be able to measure up in regards to where he was drafted.
    ————————————————-
    o yeah deff should have never picked him that high but does not make him a bust. if he can learn to catch he could contribute. but deff to high low second or most likely a third for this guy would have been nice

  141. Jonesy941 Says:

    o and almost punched my tv when i heard they to dhb over crabtree or anyone else for that madder

  142. 4evaRaider Says:

    Yo 8)

  143. 4evaRaider Says:

    Raider75 Says:
    May 2nd, 2010 at 6:41 am
    # 408RAIDER Says:
    May 2nd, 2010 at 5:38 am

    ┌∩┐[•_•]┌∩┐
    ……….

    lol
    ************************************

    LMAO @ da 408!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

  144. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    DHB is limited. He is still having trouble consistently catching the ball. This guy will never be an 80 catch receiver.

    He’s here to hit on one big play a game type guy. He’s a 40 catch guy that hopefully has a high “yards after catch average”

    He shouldn’t have been picked 7th overall as he is just like Bruce Campbell.

    Raw as can be who left school too early.

    Al Davis LOVES paying for players that take forever and a day to develop…he also loves paying these athletes for their senior year of college.

    DHB should have and I guess, would have been a 2nd round pick had he not had that 40x that got Mr. Davis all excited

  145. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    THey also need to get a new receiver coach…or new receivers.

    It is ridicuolous that we are hearing the same crap from last year with all the dropped balls.

    DHB’s performance against K.C and Louis Murphy’s plethora of drops has to stop…or it will be more of the same….12pts a game and the defense unable to stop the run

  146. M Lonetree Says:

    2009 stats

    DMc – 1 TD
    DHB – 1 TD

    awesome.

  147. 4evaRaider Says:

    With the MAJOR Dysfunction of all things offnse last year,this year wont have the same malady,imo….

    Both rookie WR’s are no longer rookies and I hope those 2 start this year.

    We havent seen it yet but the O-line is gonna kick azz,being younger,except the Road-Grader Walker,faster and waay stronger,imo

    All of a sudden #2 getting rave reviews.Gee could it be because of his contract?

    Well thats the way he rolls,so it is what it is.#2 dies NOT even deserve a chance 2 redeem himself,imo

    Everyone wanted a MLB and a DT and we got ones that will play and make an impact instantly.

    Bruce or Jason will have a very good career here…..

    GO RAIDERS!

  148. 4evaRaider Says:

    Oh yeah and the biggest thing prolly is Hue Baby!!!!

    Micheal Bennet in camp too!?!?!?!?!!!!

    He can hide behind our mountain of a line….then BOOM!

  149. Raider O Says:

    Garbagekowski sucks!! Print that!

  150. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    4eva,

    I hear you. But we have to stop hearing reports of the football hitting the ground. Catch the ball….this is a practice setting and they are still struggling with that.

    THis is only OTAs so no need to panic. But if we hear this crap during training camp, don’t expect “the lights to come on during game time”

    Receivers have to catch the ball.

    I would bring in a couple of vets to spur some competition with these guys….especially DHB and Murphy.

    Schilens better be ready to go…we are learning why he was available in the 7th round.

    As for Houston. Great pick, but he is a Defensive End. The answer for the middle appears to be the two Undrafted free agents.

    Tommy Kelly and Desmond Bryant.

    I hope Waufle is teaching Bryant how to bull rush and force that double team….at 290 pounds!

  151. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Not trying to be negative…..but I will no longer drink the kool-aid with this team.

    I will talk about the weaknesses until someone gives me an answer that’s better than.

    “We simply have to score more points”

    or

    “Its a new day”

  152. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    McClain will not be effective if he is wrestling guards and tackles in the 2nd level.

    They BETTER have a plan for that.

    Otherwise everyone will be talking “yet another Davis bust”

    But this time, it won’t be the player’s fault.

    McClain is a beast….the Raiders have to do everything in their power to make him successful…not just throw him out there and hope for the best.

    I hope Desmond Bryant is listening…..a lot on your UFA shoulders my friend

  153. Jonesy941 Says:

    it is sad about mcfadden should have panned out looks like a bust. as for dhb was not his fault ol crazy Al took him at #7 deff does not have first round potential with those waffle irons as hands

  154. vegas raider Says:

    Raider O Says:
    May 2nd, 2010 at 8:45 am
    Garbagekowski sucks!! Print that!

    ********************************

    F off

  155. Raider O Says:

    SnB,

    I used to agree with you, but you are not making sense now.

    Our DL:

    LDE: Houston 6′3 305
    DT: Seymour 6′6 310
    DT: TK 6′6 310
    RDE: Matt S 6′5 270

    That’s a good DL that can rush the passer, and slow down the run for our LBs.

    Our LBs:

    WLB: Scott/ Groves
    MLB: McClain
    SLB: Wimbley/ TH

    STOP IT!!!

  156. Raider O Says:

    Garbagekowski sucks!!!!!!!!

    Damn you vegas!!!

  157. jhill Says:

    McClain will not be effective if he is wrestling guards and tackles in the 2nd level.

    ——————————————————-

    You must have him confused with some guy who lines up 5 yards off the ball and never makes a move forward.

    McClains job is to aggressively take on the guys ASSIGNED TO BLOCK HIM, keep his gap discipline, AND SHED to make the tackle or force him to his team mate.

    Right?

  158. 4evaRaider Says:

    Vegas,good morning!

    Just before the draft Raider O HATED the fat monkey he called our coach….Now all of a sudden Cable is OK!

    Baaaaaaa
    Baaaaaaa

    Sheep crossing :)

  159. Raider O Says:

    BTW

    EFF you, and your Garbagekowski!

  160. jhill Says:

    Schilens better be ready to go…we are learning why he was available in the 7th round.

    ——————————————————-

    Can’t count on him or Nick Miller ..

    DAMN IT !!!!!!!!!

  161. Raider O Says:

    4eva,

    I don’t like him, but he is starting to win me over. lol

  162. 4evaRaider Says:

    LOL! :)

  163. jhill Says:

    Vegas,

    Didn’t you admit that Gradkowski likely won’t make the team this year?

  164. 4evaRaider Says:

    You didnt say that ,did ya Vegas? :(

  165. jhill Says:

    Cable was cool with me because he was a Raider fan.

    Didn’t like him calling the plays at all though. Called for a Asst HC/Offensive Coordinator to bail him out since game 3, lol!

  166. 4evaRaider Says:

    Thats exactly why I liked him and wanted 4 him 2 stay….As I stated when he came aboard….

    I want a TRUE Raider at the Helm of this here SHIP!

  167. jhill Says:

    Cmon 4eva,

    You’re not being realistic man.

    Al Davis man, Al Davis ….

    No way he gives up on his pet project Jamarcus Russell when it “appears” the light might be coming on. Do you really think Russell is going anywhere after being “the best QB on the field” according to those at practice?

    Campbell and Russell are virtual locks for the team.

    Grads tender $ is NOT guaranteed.

    Boeller and Frye are making an impression on Hue Jackson NOW.

    Grads is a long shot.

  168. Raider O Says:

    Vegas,

    Don’t be mad. I know you like Garbagekowski a lot, and you have invested a lot of emotions, but you shouldn’t be an angry monkey.

  169. Jonesy941 Says:

    grads is the man, just that there is a more consistent MAN now campbell will get it done hope there is a running game to help him out

  170. 4evaRaider Says:

    Jhill….

    Bruce may be a long shot but a shot he’s got!

    We all know who he is and what he brings.

    I just cant see #2 making that big a turn around in 1 off-season….If he does well,that means he was fuggin the dog all this time,which is unforgivable,imo

  171. DKnight007 Says:

    Lets hope the Dark Lord of the Sith and the Emperor below doesn’t make a foolish mistake by paying JaMierda Russell 6.5 million this year….LOL

    http://i44.tinypic.com/2ut0ly0.jpg

  172. Jonesy941 Says:

    please dont say that jhill russel needs to be GONE it will boost the teams confidence just releasing that fat lazy piece of $hit

  173. jhill Says:

    Q: What is your main goal, what is it that you mainly want to get out of this mini-camp?

    Cable: I want us to learn. I told the team, no one is going to get a job or earn a job on this team between now and the end of June. What you can do, is A: you can get yourself cut because you don’t know what you’re doing and you’re not working hard. And B: you can prepare yourself to go to camp and to earn a job. I think that’s the most important thing is that we’re really wired into what we’re doing and how we’re doing it.

    ——————————————————-

    LMFAO @ u can get cut for not knowing what you’re doing.

    This guy is hilarious!

  174. Jonesy941 Says:

    and yes its unforgivable if all the sudden he “shows up” that fool had 3 years to prove himself just to play along all the sudden makes me even more pissed we ever selected him the first place

  175. jhill Says:

    which is unforgivable,imo

    ——————————————————-

    You guys kill me with those takes …

    Unforgiveable ????

    If the guy turns it around and leads this teams to wins, you’ll hate him for having one bad year in his development?

    WOW!

  176. Raider O Says:

    4eva,

    Forget about Jabustus, he has to earn our respect. Bruce didn’t do much to earn all this (love). He won a few games, and he didn’t look good doing it. He got injured playing golf. He is soft bro.

  177. Jonesy941 Says:

    with that mentality he should have cut russel his rookie season along with some other people on our roster

  178. 4evaRaider Says:

    Jhill….

    Suppose #2 is 4 real in all aspects of his game this year.With his Big Arm we would be able to score quickly,maybe 2 quickly,kinda like Dan Fouts,and we all know how that worked out 4 da dolts.Their defense was cooked by the late 3rd quarter.

    #2 cannot throw the touch pass that is needed in a “ball-control” offense.The kind that eats the clock and keeps your defense fresh.

    That the type of O that I want….Ball-Control Colck-Eating Fresh Defense type of offense that only Bruce can deliver,imo

    Dont know much about JC except he has a very good arm.But can he eat a clock?

  179. 4evaRaider Says:

    Colck LOL!

  180. 4evaRaider Says:

    Raider O….

    IMO Bruce elevated the play of all around him….Yep!

  181. jhill Says:

    Jonesy941 Says:
    May 2nd, 2010 at 9:25 am

    and yes its unforgivable if all the sudden he “shows up” that fool had 3 years to prove himself

    ——————————————————-

    Year 1 – LOL, uh, does it really matter? McClown and Culpepper were going to start and play most of that year. Everyone was pretty excited when he finally came in and showed glimpses. TD pass to Porter against SD? Yeah, I know you were cheering, lol.

    Year 2 – Kiffin/Al Saga .. ah yeah. I don’t recall ONE person sitting here talking about Russell. I recall Kwame Harris and Cornell Green being ragged on for being the WORST starting OTs in the league. I remember Ronald Curry all of a sudden dropping passes and getting demoted. Ashlie Lelie? Kiffin, Knapp, then Cable calling plays? And through all that, 2 BIG wins to finish the season that had EVERYONE looking forward to next year.

    Year 3 – Awful! Ridiculously awful!

    1 bad offseason and 9 bad games by my count.

    Unforgiveable?

  182. Raider O Says:

    Jhill,

    I dont think we should cut Jabustus, but he has to earn a roster spot by working hard and playing well.
    It looks like he is on the right path.

  183. 4evaRaider Says:

    Jhill….you must’ve died a 1000 deaths by now :)
    ***************************************************

    jhill Says:
    May 2nd, 2010 at 9:26 am
    which is unforgivable,imo

    ——————————————————-

    You guys kill me with those takes …

    Unforgiveable ????

  184. Raider O Says:

    4eva,

    If Jabustus keeps this up, and he plays well, we also have Campbell, so why do we need Bruce?

  185. Jonesy941 Says:

    # jhill Says:
    May 2nd, 2010 at 9:26 am

    which is unforgivable,imo

    ——————————————————-

    You guys kill me with those takes …

    Unforgiveable ????

    If the guy turns it around and leads this teams to wins, you’ll hate him for having one bad year in his development?

    WOW!

    i really would not give a rats A$$ if he plays good all the sudden and one season where have you been? he had more then one season to show us his skills and i don’t want to hear about his family tragedies effecting his play. Its that no one RESPECTS him he obviously did not watch film or work out or have any work ethic at all how are you still defending this guy seriously no respect for that turd what so ever.

  186. jhill Says:

    Jonesy941 Says:
    May 2nd, 2010 at 9:22 am

    please dont say that jhill russel needs to be GONE it will boost the teams confidence just releasing that fat lazy piece of $hit

    ——————————————————-

    If the guy is the best QB on the field and he gets cut, I just don’t see how that boost morale? There is not ONE QB on this roster that should be assured of anything. Jason Campbell and Bruce Gradkowski do not guarantee us anything. They do NOT have a history of winning in this league, so bottom line is I hope the best guy gets the job.

  187. Jonesy941 Says:

    well ok give you the rookie season but c’mon he is $hitty i’d watch that two girls in a cup again before i want to see j russel in an oakland raider jersey on sunday again and that vid made me…. well its just wrong like #2

  188. 4evaRaider Says:

    Me 2 Jhill

    and we all know who that will be! lol

  189. Jonesy941 Says:

    well i guess we will see i want some f ing consistency before i fall for he looks the best of the five we have.

  190. jhill Says:

    how are you still defending this guy

    ——————————————————-

    What are you talking about?

    I’m saying let the best man win, WHOEVER it is.

    I don’t care about what the “grapevine” is saying. If Russell is the slouch you and a lot of folks think he is, you won’t have anything to worry about, right?

    But I personally have a concern if this fat POS is still the best QB on the field. And with all the hard work and preparation by the other 4 guys this offseason, the fat POS was the best guy on the field day 1.

    I know, I know, so what, right?

  191. Jonesy941 Says:

    i agree the best man should have the job if its russel so be it, bit i just dont see him winning any games i’ll have to see it to believe it.

  192. BigTed707 Says:

    My first post here. What up Nation?
    Just want to say thanks to Jerry Mac, good job, dramatically better than the JOs at sfgayt.

    Hue Jackson sounds like a great addition! I like Cable, but he wore too many hats last season – glad he got help instead of S-Canned. Some continuity from one season to the next is greatly appreciated!

    Last year was embarrassing. I can take a loss, I just hope we don’t get so demoralized this year. I know players (especially Jumongous Russel) need to take some blame, but getting beat by NYJ 38 – 0? That kind of loss is an indication purely incompetent coaching and game-planning.

    After last year, I just hope we can finish 7-9 or better. It’s a long road back to respectability, let alone greatness!

    Here’s to our off-season, feels good to at least be moving in the right direction again!

    Raiders!

  193. 4evaRaider Says:

    Ok I’ll say it again because I like 2 lol

    #2 totally dis-respected Big Al by not giving a rats azz about nothing except #2.By excepting the $$$$$$$ he agreed 2 do the very best he could do.He didnt.

    In the mean time….

    While the 52 other players on the team were of a like mind,there was 1 that wasnt.These other 52 players took their job and the History of the Oakland Raiders to HEART.While bustin their collective azz,there was 1 that wasnt….

    I bet Tyvon Branch want 2 beat the shizzzittt out of #2.If Tyvon dont,I bet LaMarr will

  194. 4evaRaider Says:

    Welcome BigTed707!

  195. 4evaRaider Says:

    The chances of #2 starting is like someone winning the lottery…..

  196. Jonesy941 Says:

    all i am saying with the $hit play i saw out of him last season he has a big hole to dig himself out of! and it is sad that he looked the best

  197. Jonesy941 Says:

    i hope hue slaps jrussel like a bi+ch and tells him to man up.

  198. jhill Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    May 2nd, 2010 at 9:53 am

    The chances of #2 starting is like someone winning the lottery…..

    ——————————————————-

    Very well may be, but plenty of lottery winners out there, lol.

    Look man, if Jamarcus Russell is the best QB on the field and they cut him for, uh, whatever reason or don’t play him, that’s as bad as Gradkowski and Frye not getting to play last year, IMO.

  199. BigTed707 Says:

    #197 – I thought it was Cable who smacked b!tches

  200. 4evaRaider Says:

    everybody look good in no contact Jonesy941

    #2 was overwhelmed when opposing D’s wanted 2 rip his head off….Maybe he looked like the best QB because JC is not familiar with the book….and prolly the biggest reason is because Brue aint out there

  201. jhill Says:

    If the tide turns and Campbell, Frye, and Boeller end up looking like the best guys on the field, THEN we move on.

  202. 4evaRaider Says:

    Maybe Hue taking that over 2 lol!

  203. Jonesy941 Says:

    in other news i think mcClain is seriously going to help us! we do need a stout DT but im sure mcClain can hold his own and do his part till then.

  204. jhill Says:

    everybody look good in no contact Jonesy941

    ——————————————————-

    No Sir!

    The other QBs were throwing picks and, uh, “needing time to learn the playbook and his new WRs”, lol.

    If ANYONE said that about Russell last year, uh “needing time to learn the playbook and his new WRs”, it was an excuse. Neverming that it actually WAS a new playbook and 2 new WRs with DHB and Murphy.

  205. Jonesy941 Says:

    i hate russel with a passion

  206. Jonesy941 Says:

    hue best slap that fool around cable cant have all the fun

  207. 4evaRaider Says:

    Jhill, I was being facetious #2 did win the lottery and “THAT” is the root of his problem,imo

  208. LT DAN Says:

    Well its really no wonder jr is doing the best. He has been there the longest knows the system and has worked with the wrs. Plus it was only one workout. No need to rush to judgement. Campbell WILL beat him out.

  209. BigTed707 Says:

    Glad we got McClain! Would have liked to see captain kirk moved to the outside rather than traded – after all, he was our best tackler.

    Speaking of McClain – Why so many Black Athletes in the League have Irish names?

    McClain
    McFadden
    McNabb
    McNair
    McVick (oh wait – that’s not one)

    still, u get the pic. :)

  210. Jonesy941 Says:

    cuz their irish duh

  211. Seymour Bush Says:

    # LT DAN Says:
    May 2nd, 2010 at 10:07 am

    Well its really no wonder jr is doing the best. He has been there the longest knows the system and has worked with the wrs. Plus it was only one workout. No need to rush to judgement. Campbell WILL beat him out.
    ====================================================

    You’re right about the receivers, but Shilens wasn’t there, and they have a couple of brand new guys. They are also installing a new system. One that comes from Hue Jacksons Baltimore team. So with that in mind Kyle Boller should be doing good as well.

  212. jhill Says:

    in other news i think mcClain is seriously going to help us!

    ——————————————————

    Couldn’t agree more!

  213. Jonesy941 Says:

    the mcdonalds hall of fame menu

  214. 4evaRaider Says:

    LMAO @ Jonesy941 #210!!!!!

  215. Bob Marley Says:

    On DHB:

    “He was one of those guys, when the season got over he took a very short (amount of) time off and then was back working. He’s with the equipment guys and the trainers, he’s getting the JUGS out and (saying) ‘I want somebody to throw me the ball.’

    - You gotta root for this kid, he’s trying hard and it’s obvious he cares, hard work pays off, hopefully good things are coming his way.

  216. Seymour Bush Says:

    Sorry some unfinished business from last night:

    MistaBrown Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 7:24 pm

    Plunk, you know Seymour isnt the sharpest marble
    =================================================

    The “sharpest marble”? Huh. The “sharpest marble.” What the fook does that mean? You must have confused yourself with not the sharpest OR lost his marbles. But this is coming from someone who thinks there are 28 hours in the day. MistabrOwn, please get that monkey brain transplant. It can only help!

  217. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Bob Marley Says:
    May 2nd, 2010 at 10:17 am

    On DHB:

    “He was one of those guys, when the season got over he took a very short (amount of) time off and then was back working. He’s with the equipment guys and the trainers, he’s getting the JUGS out and (saying) ‘I want somebody to throw me the ball.’

    - You gotta root for this kid, he’s trying hard and it’s obvious he cares, hard work pays off, hopefully good things are coming his way.
    ==========================================

    When DHB was drafted you could tell he was in over his head. When he went out on the field, you could tell he was in over his head. But he is a really solid kid. All of his college coaches said that, and that is one of the reasons that the Raiders took DHB’s word on drafting Bruce Campbell. DHB caught his lst NFL TD late in the year, was gaining confidence, and should be day and night better this season.

  218. Jonesy941 Says:

    was not serious #214

  219. DKnight007 Says:

    One of the best photo shop manips ever below! Especially of the old looney Al Davis! LOL

    http://i44.tinypic.com/2ut0ly0.jpg

  220. DKnight007 Says:

    Which one of you goofs likes the legal racial profiling going on in Zona??

  221. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Well, considering how many of them have dropped their loyalty to Al due to his faith in a failed black QB, after years and years of Al backing lousy white QBs to the tilt? I’d guess that the percentage of people in here for Arizona’s nazi law is higher than I’d like.

  222. Seymour Bush Says:

    jhill Says:
    May 2nd, 2010 at 9:11 am

    Cable was cool with me because he was a Raider fan.
    ==================================================

    We’re ALL Raider fans here. Except this guy:

    Richochet Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 6:35 pm
    Niners look pretty good,

    Richochet Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 6:37 pm
    Davis was a great pick by the Niners
    ========================================

    This richochet is a PROVEN LIAR, TROLL, and admitted Whiner fan. You guys really should NOT engage this troll. If you guys continue to engage him, I am going to continue to engage him and it makes this blog kind of messy. Just saying.

  223. DKnight007 Says:

    More Neo-Nazi racist BS coming from Republicans in Zona….sheesh….

  224. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    It’s hard to understand why anyone still believes that JaMoron has a chance to become a decent NFL QB.

    It’s almost as if his horrid play and complete lack of prowess over the last 2 years never happened.

    The only rationalization can be that the Raids have invested so much into JaMoron – and he has such great physical tools – that Raider fans can’t bear the thought that JaMoron is a colossal bust.

    The simple truth is that JaMoron is too innacurate and too stupid to succeed in the NFL.

    Doesn’t matter if he gets in tremendous physical shape, develops an impecable work ethic, and studies the play book and game film relentlessly.

    He’s too dumb and too innacurate to succeed.

    On the other hand, we have ‘Garbagekowski’. He doesn’t have JaMoron’s rocket arm or imposing physical stature. But he does have some accuracy, and most importantly, he actually performed decently and elevated the team around him when given a chance.

    ‘Garbagekowski’ showed me more heart and talent in the win against the Steelers than JaMoron ever displayed on an NFL field.

    Yet there are still those clamoring to give Russell another chance and suggesting that JaMoron is deserving of a roster spot and Garbagekowski is not.

    Russell is indeed being given another shot. He’s going to be given a chance to show he’s capable of thoroughly knowing the playbook and he’s got to show improved accuracy and a semblance of touch if he has any hope of remaining a Raider.

    It is only Al Davis’ fear that Russell might come back to haunt the Raids wearing an opponent uniform that accounts for JaMoron even being invited to camp.

    But Davis needn’t worry. JaMoron isn’t going to suddenly develop any accuracy – and he isn’t going to grow a brain.

    Now if only JaMoron will take a pay cut and the press will cooperate and rave about the ‘new and improved’ Russell’s camp performance…we might get a late draft choice for him.

    But even that is doubtful.

  225. On the beach in Cancun Says:

    SteveAlford21..post #125:

    Great observations and insights and well explained. I overstated the importance of the center position the other day, stating that a big upgrade would bring one or two extra wins. I was immediately jacked on that! My BAD!

    However, a big upgrade would help our offensive line big time, in our run blocking and pass defense and that would add extra points and extra first downs and that might translate into an extra win. I see us at 500 and maybe better if Al can find the courage to dump the fat-burger champ, fat-ass, Ja-happy-meal, Marcus. His current work ethic is too late.

  226. On the beach in Cancun Says:

    Raiderman99:

    you’re absolutely right on…100% on your JaMoron observations. And, you’re correct about Al’s inability to deal with the dropping of the “fat-burger champ,” fat-ass JaMoron, aka: bring me a happy meal. I agree with you, JaMoron is too stupid and too inaccurate too succeed else where but Al’s not going to take the chance. If Al keeps the fat-ass, JaMoron will probably get injured and collect his 9 Million while he buys additional “furs” (in California, no less) and eats his triple-cheeseburgers and jumbo fries.

  227. On the beach in Cancun Says:

    Seymour Bush..post 217:

    They’re are many Raider fans who feel the same and hopefully it does translate into more productivity for the speedster. Character and desire too improve will always win out in the long run. I see the DHB having a big year, and if he does, and if it requires any double-coverages,
    then Zack Miller will benefit big time. Now, that’s a player who has kept us in so many games..what a pick! The
    Zack should make the pro-bowl this year.

  228. Seymour Bush Says:

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    May 2nd, 2010 at 10:40 am

    It’s hard to understand why anyone still believes that JaMoron has a chance to become a decent NFL QB.

    It’s almost as if his horrid play and complete lack of prowess over the last 2 years never happened.
    ================================================

    Let me ask you: so his first year of starting he was terrible? He showed NO improvement? The last four games of the 2008 season showed he had no future in this league?

  229. silvershark Says:

    the thought of Russell on A Raider roster makes Me Ill! He has already proved He is the biggest Draft bust EVER! Now Davis will Pay Him another 9 Mil this year to stumble around and ebonicaly speak when spoken to. His arm is as strong as His brain is weak!

    Let Me get this straight? Gradkowski Throws as many TD’s (3) in a 6 minute span at Pitt, While JaDumcus throws (3) in 9 games! So JaDummy throws a TD eveery 3 games while Grads throws one every 2 minutes.

    One makes 60 Mil, the other makes 1.7 mil! In the business world and the NFL is a business, these equations would most certainly land a CEO on His Azz. Not mention a He would be forced into a mental facility for life. Al Davis belongs there!

    To keep Russell even as a ball boy would be a mistake. Russell was asked 1 week before the draft who He wanted to play for, and His genius response was ” Who ever pay’s Me the most.” That should have been the biggest red flag to let Al know that this kid did not have passion for football just money.

    I will give Russell some credit though. Despite His 87 I.Q. And the fact He can’t speak a word of English, He pulled off one of the biggest hiest in U.S. History. He stole 60 Mil dollars leagaly. No gun,no mask, no get away car, Just had to throw a ball 70 yards for a senile old man and collect. Russell if anything put a new spin on retardation.

    I bet somewhere Corky(From Life goes on) is trying to become the new CEO of Bank Of America!

    Cut the strings already and let this Dummy sit on someone else’s

  230. silvershark Says:

    LAP !!!!!!!!

  231. On the beach in Cancun Says:

    Silvershark.

    perfectly said. No argument here.

    PS: Al, show us you can accept your mistakes and that you can admit them and move on. Dump the fat-ass, JaMoron!

  232. Jonesy941 Says:

    amen to that^

  233. Seymour Bush Says:

    The problem with SteveAlfords21 post #125 is it flies in the face of what most successful franchises in ALL SPORTS are doing. Most teams build thru the draft. Some don’t. Most do. Sure, we all want that FANTASTIC NT that goes 355 and runs a 4.85 forty. Where is he? John Henderson? Albert Haynesworth? There are reasons that their teams have given up on them. They are PAINS IN THE ASS! And Hendersons production has decreased every year for the last four years. Better to take Mike Waufle and try to develop someone than bring in someone to poison the entire line.

    Remember, with the offensive line we were in a makeshift Oline basically all year. Gallery went out, then Satele got hurt early and Chris Morris was playing center, and then he shifted to guard, Gallery came back, got hurt again. Mawae could possibly be the best center in the league, but he is not a long term answer. He is 39 years old. I think the league IS blackballing the guy, but I think we need continuity here. Not another rebuild job next year on the oline.

    While I basically agree with SteveAlford on what he is saying, you can find good interior Olinemen later in the draft. Jeff Saturday, arguably the 2nd best center in the league was undrafted. Koppen from NE was a 5th. Hartwig the Steeler Center was a 6th. Between Cable, Jackson and Michalczik, we have some guys who know how to coach Offensive linemen. Coach em up fellas.

  234. raul rodriguez Says:

    We need some receivers. Schilens sucks! always injured. He disapears during the game. We need some veteran receivers. DHB is a bust as well. As for DT…Cable is an idiot for putting Houston as a DE instead as a DT. Kelly sucks and should be cut. Come on Cable..get ur head out of your *ss

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