Quick hits from last minicamp practice
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, May 2nd, 2010 at 2:31 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Impressions gathered from five practice sessions at the Raiders’ mandatory minicamp, which concluded with a single practice Sunday:
– Coach Tom Cable, a roll-up-your-sleeves and do-it-yourself type, has taken a step back.
Offensive coordinator Hue Jackson is running the offense, John Marshall the defense. Line coach Jim Michalczik, who became a spectator at times last year as Cable jumped in as the unit struggled, was the main voice in that unit.
Particularly telling Sunday was Jackson coming in and working with offensive linemen while Cable was off watching Mike Waufle work with the defensive line.
– Rolando McClain knows his stuff.
McClain played in a 3-4 defense at Alabama, but his transition to 4-3 middle linebacker was seamless in terms of knowing his assignments. He jumped right in with the first team and was seldom seen getting heavy tutoring from coaches in between snaps to correct errors.
The most important quality will be fitting run gaps and driving ballcarriers backward, and we won’t know about that until July, but it was a promising start.
McClain sat out Sunday’s practice after being tight following four hard practice sessions where he took a lot of snaps.
– Admittedly, some of the issues had to do with Chaz Schilens and Louis Murphy missing practice, but Oakland’s wide receivers littered the ground with too many dropped passes.
About the only guy getting a passing grade Sunday was Todd Watkins and perhaps Jonathan Holland.
As for Darrius Heyward-Bey, he has indeed improved, but he fell far short of Cable’s glowing assessment at a pre-draft press conference.
Take a look at film of Murphy and Heyward-Bey side-by-side breaking on a deep ball and only one of them would look like a potential star. It would be the guy taken in the fourth round, not the first.
– Jason Campbell is not a statue. Far from it.
I apparently didn’t pay a lot of attention to Redskins games because I thought Campbell a classic dropback pocket passer. He can do that, but he also runs well.
Sunday, he broke to his right and beat end Jay Richardson to the corner for a nice gain.
– Rookie tackle Jared Veldheer looks thin for a lineman at 6-foot-8 and 315 pounds but was strong enough to send fellow O-lineman Alex Parsons flying during a routine drill.
– JaMarcus Russell still hasn’t mastered the art of the short pass, hitting Darren McFadden with a swing pass to his right on one play, then firing the next at the feet of Rock Cartwright.
Russell, whose best practice session was his first one, got a limited amount of snaps in each of the last two practices.
He may not be 290 pounds, but he didn’t look anything like a $9.45 million quarterback, either.
– Rookie defensive backs Jeremy Ware, Walter McFadden and Stevie Brown all had good final practice sessions. Brown properly broke on a pass from Russell intended for Zach Miller and ended up with an interception on the overthrow.
Ware had the prettiest interception of the minicamp when he stayed with Jacoby Ford on a post then out-raced him to a deep pass by Charlie Frye.
– Eddie Anderson has roles that go beyond being watch commander in charge of Russell. During one sequence Sunday, Marshall had some words with Stanford Routt along the sideline, and when Routt ran back out on the field with the first unit, he was sent off by defensive backs coach Lionel Washington.
Eventually, Anderson came over and the two had a discussion. Routt was back on the field a short time later.
– Lamarr Houston, the second-round pick out of Texas who will be in the defensive line rotation at end, will get in his share of scrapes this year. When teams hit the Raiders for a big run and he’s on the field, he’s going to hit back.
He’s one of those “play to the whistle’’ types _ which means once in awhile he’ll play beyond it.
– Cable said Schilens’ absence is not a big deal, and we’ll take him at his word.
But the Raiders’ best possession receiver has had two surgeries on his left foot in the past year. Not everyone has feet that can hold up to playing in the NFL.
If he experiences any setbacks which constitute missing more than a practice or two at training camp, be worried.
– While it makes for a nice story to say Richard Seymour was not at mandatory minicamp because the two sides were working on a longterm deal, one has nothing to do with the other.
Seymour could have signed the tender, been at camp and the two sides still could be working on that contract. He is doing what a lot of people would do in his position _ staying at home with his family rather than go through five football practices as April turns to May.
– Not sure who the Raiders fullback is going to be in Week 1, but there’s a very real possibility that it’s not someone who is currently on the roster.
– Michael Huff and Tyvon Branch at cornerback? They were for a handful of plays on Sunday. Cable says it was simply to work on their coverage skills and that neither will be moving from safety to the island.
– The first OTA session begins May 18. In past years, the media is allowed to cover one day of sessions which last three days.
– For more practice highlights, check my Twitter page.
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May 2nd, 2010 at 2:32 pm
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May 2nd, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Time to bring in TO?
May 2nd, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Getting nervous about this Eddie Anderson thing
May 2nd, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Isn’t this the same story as last year? WR suck, Schillens is hurt blah, blah blah!
May 2nd, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Our defense will be much improved!
May 2nd, 2010 at 2:41 pm
ya but now we got a decent QB
May 2nd, 2010 at 2:48 pm
zach miller will have a big year, but we need a veteran wideout
May 2nd, 2010 at 2:52 pm
i’m thinking we had a good draft…
need to find another DT… preferably a really big one…
May 2nd, 2010 at 2:56 pm
Our OL hasn’t worked well since Cable stopped being the OL coach.
Now that he’s given up being offensive coordinator we’re hopefully going to some improvement with the OL but frankly that’s the area that most worry’s me.
The last three games of 2008 the OL was working well together.
Then, in the off season Al can’t be bothered to pay peanuts for Grove. Not that Grove was that good but the unit was working well together.
It takes time for the OL to work well together and we never seem to have same five guys very many games in a row.
Sure we picked up Campbell and Veldheer-both works in progress.
Focus on that OL Cable.
May 2nd, 2010 at 3:12 pm
Thin? 315 lbs is thin Jerry?
Just because your pants are size 48×30 doesnt make 300 pounders thin.
“Rookie tackle Jared Veldheer looks thin for a lineman at 6-foot-8 and 315 pounds but was strong enough to send fellow O-lineman Alex Parsons flying during a routine drill”
May 2nd, 2010 at 3:13 pm
JaMeatballs = garbage
“JaMarcus Russell still hasn’t mastered the art of the short pass, hitting Darren McFadden with a swing pass to his right on one play, then firing the next at the feet of Rock Cartwright”
May 2nd, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Like I said we needed to draft a FB!
“Not sure who the Raiders fullback is going to be in Week 1, but there’s a very real possibility that it’s not someone who is currently on the roster”
May 2nd, 2010 at 3:27 pm
Looks like we are going to need that mobility again at QB position again. The WRs seem to be no where close to where we need them to be.
FUGG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m going to just focus on the Oline and hope that we can open some holes for Bush and McFadden. Complete some passes to Miller, some swing passes, some screens and some play action.
I like the idea of how our line is going to come together, and really hope Veldheer and Campbell can start at LT and RG respectively.
May 2nd, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Jerry…
A big THANK YOU for all the updates…
May 2nd, 2010 at 3:32 pm
-Michael Huff and Tyvonn Branch at cornerback?
Cable said neither would be making the move, just working on coverage skills.
Branch was actually a corner at UConn who the Raiders convereted to a safety. He is a hell of a young player and only going to get better. I remember in the shootout vs Pittsburgh last yr, Branch got beat on back to back big plays by Santonio Holmes, the 2nd going for six. I was thinking you couldn’t really ask for better coverage by your SS on the other teams #1 or 1A WR. It took a perfect throw by Big Ben to beat him.
He could defenitely slide back to corner in a pinch, and probably hold up fairly well, with his 4.3 speed.
May 2nd, 2010 at 3:39 pm
It sounds like the Raiders are angling for versatility or interchangeability, if that’s even a word, all over their roster this year. DL like Seymour and Houston who can switch between DT and end. Big OLB who could put a hand down at end and rush the passer like Scott, Wimbley and Groves.
Now they might even be able to move players like Huff and Branch around in the secondary to create multiple fronts and looks.
I like what I’m hearing about the D so far.
May 2nd, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Love Huff at CB, but wasn’t too thrilled with the coverage reports regarding Mitchell.
Hiram Eugene anyone, lol ????
May 2nd, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Buckeye,
its ok to move players around….but the Raiders better make sure that they get players to at least master ONE position. Play at least one position really well instead of two positions “okay”
We don’t have any more time for great attitude “lousy results” types….we need people to start playing up to their pay grade….right now, only Nnamdi, Seymour, and Zach Miller can be truly said to be playing their position.
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:01 pm
As for Darrius Heyward-Bey, he has indeed improved, but he fell far short of Cable’s glowing assessment at a pre-draft press conference.
Take a look at film of Murphy and Heyward-Bey side-by-side breaking on a deep ball and only one of them would look like a potential star. It would be the guy taken in the fourth round, not the first.
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Well, the way I look at it…the DHB draft made it possible for us to get Rolando McClain…
Sort of a lessons learned type thing……Campbell gets picked in the 4th rd…
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:08 pm
SnB,
Even if we had picked Crabtree last year, we still would have been picking top 10 in this past draft. The only thing that could have prevented that would have been if we had drafted OL and/or traded for more good OL players last year. Given our lines, even the best “skill position” players wouldn’t have gotten us more than 6 wins last season.
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Jhill,
Huff has excellent coverage ability. He played some corner early in his career at Texas, I believe. The pre-draft guide I have said Huff was the safest pick in the top 10 that year. It projected him to corner in the NFL and said he had better cover skills than Quentin Jammer wh’d gone #5 overall previously. It said he was almost failsafe, because even if he didn’t develop into a shutdown corner, he could still slide inside and be a pro bowl type safety.
Even early in his pro career when he was considered a disapointment, his coverage wasn’t an issue. He excelled against top TE’s like Gates, Gonzalez, and KWII of Cleveland. He just wasn’t forcing turnovers and making impact plays expected of a top 10 draft pick at safety.
Then last year he got 3 int’s in the first two games and really started to step up. I think we are just starting to scratch the surface of what we can expect of Michael Huff, from here on.
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:13 pm
chrisram73 Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Time to bring in TO?
IS t.o. being black balled?
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Fat Kidd,
No. Both of his parents are black, so he was born that way.
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:25 pm
SteveAlford,
I wasn’t a fan of Crabtree or DHB. I wasn’t a fan of any of the receivers to be honest. The team was so full of holes on the lines that a receiver made no sense to me. After watching the results, I can’t say my opinion changed at all.
But I do believe that having watched DHB perform like an undrafted free agent and Louis Murphy overperform his draft position….did have an influence on the approach taken this year. That is a good thing.
So, instead of trying another long-term development player in the 1st round…we got a player that can contribute right away.
Lessons learned can be a good thing
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:26 pm
SnB,
I think you could probably add Gallery to your list. And probably the aforementioned Huff and Branch. I think they accounted very well of themselves and as the front seven improves in front of them, they could be special.
Overall, SnB, after the last seven years, I don’t blame anybody for being skeptical or even cynical regarding the Raiders. Adopting an “I’ll believe it when I see it” attitude.
I think this is a talented young team with a lot of potential. However, That “P” word is a coach killer if it remains unfulfilled. I’ve said it many times. It is time for some of these young players to step up.
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Buckeye,
I get skeptical when I hear about moving players around that haven’t even mastered the position they own today.
I have no problem with adding complexity…but let’s make sure these young guys know their own positions first.
This franchise has ruined countless players by moving them all over the field and then washing out when they couldn’t master anything….
As for Gallery, I don’t know…he’s got to stay healthy. Huff has not performed like a top 5-10 safety,…which is what his pay grade of $5m suggests.
Branch has performed well.
On offense…only Zach Miller has come through in my opinion
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:33 pm
SnB,
I agree completely about Al FINALLY learning his lesson about reaching instead of filling needs. It took a major first-season disappointment from a player that he thought would be a superstar out of the gate for it to happen, but it did… and this is a good thing. I was merely stating that DHB wasn’t the reason we got McClain… because even with a WR who DID contribute, we still would have picked in the top 10 because of the horrid line play.
Despite what some VERY stupid people here think, we are NOT a weapon or two away from the playoffs. The retards who wanted to draft Dez Bryant know NOTHING about football. Having the best receiver in the league would do us no good without offensive linemen to ensure that the play develops and there’s enough time to let the WR get into his route and ensure that the QB has time to get the ball out to the WR.
Football games are won and lost in the trenches. We have addressed them a bit so far this year, but we still need a LOT of help on the offensive line, particularly C, RG, RT… and we still need a big run-stuffing DT for the DL. Fixing the lines will get this team back to the playoffs, even without changing ANY other personnel at any other positions.
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:35 pm
SteveAlford,
You have my complete agreement on your post above.
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:39 pm
The retards who wanted to draft Dez Bryant know NOTHING about football.
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You should change your name to All Knowing or something.
People who think that Dez Bryant would have been the #1 WR on this team from day 1 are retards?
LMFAO!
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:42 pm
The drafting of Rolando is going to help this team, in the short and long-term, way more than Dan Williams, Anthony Davis, Pouncey or Bualaga would have.
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:42 pm
Having the best receiver in the league would do us no good without offensive linemen to ensure that the play develops and there’s enough time to let the WR get into his route and ensure that the QB has time to get the ball out to the WR.
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So despite the fact that Dez Bryant was the #1 WR, and the OTs who could help us were gone, ….
Nevermind.
LMFAO dude. Your are just TOO funny!
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:44 pm
vegas raider Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:42 pm
The drafting of Rolando is going to help this team, in the short and long-term, way more than Dan Williams, Anthony Davis, Pouncey or Bualaga would have.
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Nah, Vegas …
According to the semi pro genius that is.
What good is McClain going to do us since we negelected the Oline in Rd 1 and our offense is still going to suck?
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:45 pm
I’m willing to bet that McClain makes more Pro Bowls than Bualaga, Anthony Davis and Dan Williams combined in their respective careers.
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Jhill,
Drafting Dez Bryant would have been a wasted pick and would have continued to set this team back.
It would have been like having only a thousand dollars (limited resources… like only having ONE 1st round pick) and using ALL of your money to buy 20 inch spinners for a car with no engine instead of using that money to buy an engine.
If you can’t understand how drafting Dez onto a team that can’t protect the QB long enough for the play to develop is a stupid idea, then you are hopeless.
I never said that Dez wouldn’t be the #1 receiver on the team, I said it would be retarded to draft him when we needed superior Offensive Linemen, superior Defensive Linemen, and a superior Middle Linebacker. Seriously, how could you not understand that? If we were already set at both lines and linebackers and had NO other needs that could be BEST addressed with a 1st round pick, then I would be all for drafting Dez… but considering the situation we were in… drafting Dez = retarded.
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:51 pm
We as a nation are a pretty football savy bunch – when we stick to the football talk. When some of these guys (I won’t name names, don’t want to be targeted like some guys get on here) get into all this name calling & arguing, it takes away from how good this site is. Its definately my go to site for Raider info, £¤€{ bspn & schefter’s sources & nfln is pretty bad too especially that disloyal sapp. He sucks!!!
Anyway, minicamp was a positive step for the most part & I’m even more optimistic than I usually am % this point in the off season. Go Raiders!
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:53 pm
SteveAlford21 Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Jhill,
Drafting Dez Bryant would have been a wasted pick and would have continued to set this team back.
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Some people would call that opinion absolutely retarded. A true #1 WR setting a team back? drafting the top player at A POSITION OF NEED sets the team back?!?!?!
Ok, man, whatever you say.
I disagree! Guess I’m retarted.
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Suh, Okung, Trent Williams, McCoy, McClain, Haden, Dez Bryant, or CJ Spiller at 8 would have ALL been good picks!
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:57 pm
i think we picked up NFL ready people in the 1st and 2nd rounds…
NFL probably ready in the 3rd and 4th rounds…
look for Campbell and Walker to start on the right side…
look for backups who can actually backup…
i actually do think we improved the o-line in this draft…
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:57 pm
im glad we didnt pick bryant…im content with RO-MAC, and lamarr… we should have made an offer for santonio holmes tho. damm only a 5th rd pick they gave for him!! thats who we needed not dez dryant!
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Jhill,
Just to clarify in case you didn’t understand my point:
Dez Bryant is an AWESOME player and I think that he will be GREAT in the NFL. However, with the severe needs that we had at OL, DL, and MLB, there was no way that we could afford to take a WR, RB, or DB in any of the first three rounds.
Going away from one of those needs would mean that by the time we got around to addressing those needs, the talent pool available would be significantly less than what we had available to us in earlier rounds.
Example: Let’s say that we took Dez in the 1st, then had the exact same picks in 2-4. By the time we addressed MLB, we would have been looking at 5th round talent. If we took Dez, then took Spikes or Johnson in the 2nd or 3rd, then we would have lower value guys for the DL and OL. Bryant would have been our best WR, but the cost would have been way too high in terms of not being able to fill other extreme NEEDS as well as we possibly could.
I never said anything bad about Dez or questioned his ability. I merely stated the FACT that taking him would screw us out of getting the best available players to fill our extreme NEEDS at OL, DL, and MLB.
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:59 pm
when all WRs are the same then there is no #1.
or when no WRs are #1’s then they are all no #1’s.
yay.
it’ll confuse defenses because there is no one to sungle out.
4eva definitely has his work cut out for himself.
QB #’s 8, 5, 2, etc etc, but a #1?
Block like hell and find someone to replace #20 when he is hurt again. Simple as that.
May 2nd, 2010 at 4:59 pm
i actually do think we improved the o-line in this draft…
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If we didn’t improve the O-line, by taking two O-lineman in the top 115 of the draft, than we might as well fold up shop.
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Jhill,
I was typing #40 when you posted #36, so I will address it now.
WR wasn’t as pressing a need as OL, DL, and MLB; therefor taking Dez instead of taking the best possible players for the BIGGER needs would indeed set us back. If you want to improve the offense, then we need C and RG WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY before picking up a new WR. A new WR, no matter how good he is, would be a wasted pick until the OL can protect properly. I’m sure that the Patriots were DYING for us to pick Dez, that way the pick that they got from us for Seymour would be a top 10 pick next season.
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Let me ask you: Between 2008 & 2010 what happened?
Dumb@a$$
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# Seymour Bush Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 11:12 am
Let me ask you: so his first year of starting he was terrible? He showed NO improvement? The last four games of the 2008 season showed he had no future in this league?
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:03 pm
I don’t think Dez would’ve been a good pick for us @ #8 either. It wouldn’t have surprised me w/ Mr Davis calling the shots like he usually does. But surprisingly, we did what nobody could’ve expected; we picked the best available players @ positions we desperately needed help @…who knew?
I do however think Bryant will be a quality WR in this league, especially in an offense like Dallas’. I wish him luck, as long as he’s not playing us. In that case, screw him
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:03 pm
I see Barback purple lips 0bama was full of jokes last night while he snoozes for 10 days during the biggest environmental disaster in the last 50 yrs. No prob Pres its just OIL in the Gulf! Take your time…
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Florida Pete’s Micah Johnson finally finds a home…
from NJ.com:
The Giants had space on their roster to sign one tryout player from their rookie minicamp this weekend. Looks like that spot will be used on a linebacker.
Former Kentucky middle linebacker Micah Johnson posted on his Facebook page Sunday afternoon that he will sign with the Giants Monday, after his tryout this weekend.
“Killed mini camp!” Johnson wrote as his status. “The coaches are excited about me..or so dey say! Lol…but yeah its offical [sic] I’m a Giant! Gettin signed tommorrow [sic]! Thankin god every second for givin me dis opportunity! So u know imma go hard!”
The team hasn’t confirmed the signing yet.
According to one agent informed of the Giants’ plans Sunday, who requested anonymity because they’re not authorized to speak for the team, the Giants decided to fill the spot with a linebacker, because of the team’s need at that position. Johnson was one of two tryout linebackers in rookie camp, along with veteran Brian Iwuh.
A three-time all-SEC selection, Johnson led the Wildcats with 105 tackles his senior season. He injured his MCL in the team’s bowl game against Clemson and ran a 4.99 in his 40 at the Combine, which likely caused his stock to slip.
The Giants drafted two linebackers, Nebraska’s Phillip Dillard and converted defensive end Adrian Tracy of William & Mary, and signed one other undrafted free agent from this year’s class at the position, Minnesota’s Lee Campbell.
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Just to clarify in case you didn’t understand my point
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LOL!
Yeah us retards have a hard time understanding your babble. We need you to break it down even further.
You were pretty clear man, no need to break it down.
Anyone who wanted to address the NEED at WR with “an AWESOME player” is a retard. Got it the first time.
Nevermind the fact that the OL guys who merited a top ten pick were gone, and we could address OTHER NEEDS in rd 2 or later or in FA.
It’s all good. You’re entitled to your opinion just like the rest of us retards.
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Steve, Vegas, et al.
I love what I’m hearing from Jerry regarding Rolando. How he prepares, and has stepped right in and taken control. I’m excited. He was actually my first preference for the first round. I was watching the BCS game, and thought that LB from Alabama would look good in Silver and Black. He seemed instinctive. I remember one play he sniffed out a screen and just snuffed it. He looked huge, and especially thick in the thighs, like he could hold his ground against a lead blocker, and clog the inside running lanes like Capt. Kirk never could.
Howeva, as the draft neered I changed my pick to Mike Iupati. I liked what I was hearing on NFLN reporting on the behind the scenes practices at the Senior bowl and stuff. My rationale was the offensive line was the weakest link on the team and badly needed some TLC.
They had three top 10 skill players, all disapointments so far, teetering on the brink of Bustville. Some think JR has already fallen off the cliff. But I thought the O-line needed upgraded to give them a fighting chance to show what they could do.
I think B Campbell could surprise @ RG this year. I know the general concensus is that the guy is a combine workout warrior and not a player. I’m not so sure. His technique might be a little raw, but I think he could surprise. I was impressed w/ his highlights. He looks downright dominant at times.
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Oakglen, aren’t you all those things Debo? Oops I mean Seymour
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Seymour Bush Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 10:34 am
This richochet is a PROVEN LIAR, TROLL
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Its called sarcasm! lol you idiot!!!
Means ur a dumb fook..
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Seymour Bush Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 10:18 am
The “sharpest marble”? Huh. The “sharpest marble.” What the fook does that mean?
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Problem is in B-More H Jackson was the Qb coach not the OC. Wasn’t his system in B-More. Now he is running what you can call his “system”.
I’m always available to correct you SeyGlen!
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# Seymour Bush Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 10:10 am
You’re right about the receivers, but Shilens wasn’t there, and they have a couple of brand new guys. They are also installing a new system. One that comes from Hue Jacksons Baltimore team. So with that in mind Kyle Boller should be doing good as well.
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:10 pm
If you want to improve the offense, then we need C and RG WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY before picking up a new WR.
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Like I said, you’re entitled to your opinion. I won’t call you names for having your opinion either.
You seem to be justifying your position which is not needed.
My only issue is your take that anyone who wanted Dez Bryant was retarded and didn’t know football. Gimme a break with that top of the mountain no it all point of view man. Couldn’t just say you disagree with those who thought adding the BEST PLAYER AT A POSITION OF NEED. Had to go with “retards” and “don’t know football”.
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:11 pm
RE: Post #47 from Florida Pete:
As many of you probably remember, Micah Johnson (MLB) and John Conner (FB), both from Kentucky, are the two players for whom I was lobbying the hardest. If it looked like we weren’t going to get one of the top two DTs (impossible) or one of the top three OTs (improbable), then I wanted to trade up for a top OT or trade away our 2nd (or 3rd) and a 5th for Haynesworth and our 3rd (or 2nd, depending on earlier trade) for Gaither… then use highest pick left for Johnson and get Conner somewhere in 5th to 7th.
I was NOT a McClain supporter before the draft… and wanted to use that pick (or trade UP) for the best available DT/OT (was hoping one of the top OTs would fall to us). Now, however, I couldn’t be more pleased with McClain. The kid is amazing… and I don’t think that all the things he’s saying are disingenuous… and he’s saying ALL the right things. I love the pick. WR would have been a HUGE mistake.
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:11 pm
And for the record, I wanted Mike Iupati, but I guess Cable and company are retards for waiting until rd 4 to address RG and not addressing C at all, huh? Guess they don’t know anything about football either.
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:14 pm
MistaBrown Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:03 pm
I see Barback purple lips 0bama was full of jokes last night while he snoozes for 10 days during the biggest environmental disaster in the last 50 yrs. No prob Pres its just OIL in the Gulf! Take your time…
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and of course the Bush Cheney deregulation of all things that needed regulating had nothing to do with it…
and your buddies at Halliburton… well most of us don’t think they are very good at anything… except billing for work they don’t do well…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/30/halliburton-may-be-culpri_n_558481.html
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Fl Pete I realize you are probably senile and have alzheimer’s but what does any of that have to do with a current incompetent Pres sitting on his hands while there is a environmental disaster going on?
FK’n dipsh!t
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Jhill,
If we hadn’t taken McClain, then Iupati would have been a much better pick than Bryant… because WR is not as big a need as G (or tackle, and they say he can play both). You act like once the top three OTs were gone, then there were no needs higher than WR. I can’t state enough that WR before OL would be a wasted pick and would NOT help the offense more than maybe 3 points per game. It displays a complete lack of football understanding to state that we could address OL through Free Agency THIS YEAR, when the market was cut in half because of the end of the CBA, which eliminated eligibility for over 250 players that would have been FAs.
So we can’t pick up great OL through FA… and no one with any great OL is willing to part with them for less than a king’s ransom this year, because there is no market through which to replace them. Your theory might work in a normal FA system in any other years past, but not THIS year… and I’ve already addressed how waiting til later rounds wouldn’t be good.
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:21 pm
I’m curious what suggestions you have for Mr Purple Lips in regards to the oil spill? Should he do a ceremonial fly over? Drop in and tell the fishing dudes that we won’t fail them?
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Jhill,
They didn’t address C or G earlier, but they addressed OL, DL, and MLB… as I said were best needs… and Campbell can play G, so your post #55 is moot.
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:23 pm
You act like once the top three OTs were gone, then there were no needs higher than WR.
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You’re making stuff up now.
What part of wanting Iupati fits into that statement?
What part of me saying that ANY ONE of Suh, McCoy, Okung, Haden, McClain, Trent Williams, OR Dez Bryant fits that statement?
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:23 pm
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May 2nd, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Jhill,
Also, regarding your post #55:
Why would they be retards who don’t know anything about football? The way they drafted fits in with what I broke down perfectly. In the later rounds, they went for DBs and WRs… after using the highest picks to address OL, DL, and MLB. They didn’t use the order that I would have preferred, but then again, they went with McClain. In hindsight, I can’t criticize that pick at all, considering what we’ve seen from him at this level so far.
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Pete,
Why did you take the bait? There was some football talk going on….now back to the political madness.
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Oh ok Jhill, just let it keep spilling into the water! Sounds good! Why didn’t I think of that ?
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# jhill Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:21 pm
I’m curious what suggestions you have for Mr Purple Lips in regards to the oil spill? Should he do a ceremonial fly over? Drop in and tell the fishing dudes that we won’t fail them?
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:26 pm
starting oline is gonna be
lt henderson
lg gallery
c satele
rg parsons or campbell
rt walker
bank on it unless veldeer can put on 20lbs by july 28
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Because Fl Pete has the mind of a butterfly..
Obviously.
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SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Pete,
Why did you take the bait?
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Jhill,
I am not making stuff up. Here’s what you said a few minutes ago:
“So despite the fact that Dez Bryant was the #1 WR, and the OTs who could help us were gone, ….”
Maybe I misunderstood, but it seems an awful lot like you’re saying that we should have taken Dez since the OTs were gone. Is that NOT what you just said?
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:31 pm
ahhh what the hell lets invite javon back and see if he can catch the ball! lol
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:31 pm
MistaBrown Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Fl Pete I realize you are probably senile and have alzheimer’s but what does any of that have to do with a current incompetent Pres sitting on his hands while there is a environmental disaster going on?
FK’n dipsh!t
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there is nothing that can be done that isn’t being done…
and that’s the problem… we drilled a hole into the seafloor… and that seafloor is under a huge amount of pressure… and oil is jetting out of that hole just as fast as it can…
it’s like poking an artery on a hemophiliac…
there are safeguards… required in most other countries that do off-shore drilling… but not us… because we’re smarter and cheaper than anyone else…
we’re smarter and cheaper right up to the moment something like this happens…
and of course there’s gotta be finger pointing…
but the finger isn’t pointing at the cause of this… the “drill baby drill” / what could possibly go wrong crowd cheerleading for irresponsible oil profiteers… the ones who suck up all the cash but take no responsiblility…
now listen to you yowling… if Obama had stopped the drilling in order to retrofit these rigs with fail-safe devices… you and your teabag buddies would have lost your freaking minds…
now… unlike you… my house is within 150 feet of a canal that empties into the gulf… i’m far more concerned about this than you are…
and believe me… if i thought you and your big mouth could get down to 10,000 feet and suck this schit up… well i would be the first to suggest it…
but the truth is… not even you and your big mouth can do anything…
i’m done with the politics… piss up a rope…
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Steve,
Is the shop empty?
Are you bored?
Certainly not that hard to see that the point is you calling anyone who said Dez Bryant at 8 is a retard and didn’t know football. And for the SOLE reason that without us addressing the OL it would be a waste.
Well newflash buddy. In the COACHES opinion, they did address the Oline with Walker at RG, Veldheer in rd 3 (since the 2 guys they liked ahead of him at OT were gone), and Campbell in rd 4.
Dez Bryant in rd 1, the MLB from Penn state in rd 2, and Cam Thomas in rd 4 would be retarded thinking?
LMFAO!
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Given the quote that I just gave… that came from YOU… then it seems that my point stands: You said that taking Dez was addressing a need more than addressing any other. I disagree and think that it is retarded to take a WR when the entire OL needs vast improvement before we can have use for a top-flight receiver. You never mentioned Iupati until later.
In fact, here’s another quote from you on this thread:
“Anyone who wanted to address the NEED at WR with “an AWESOME player” is a retard. Got it the first time.
Nevermind the fact that the OL guys who merited a top ten pick were gone, and we could address OTHER NEEDS in rd 2 or later or in FA.”
You seem to be saying that WR was the biggest need left that could be addressed there… you even stated that the OL guys who merited a top 10 pick were gone… so how is that an endorsement of taking Iupati over Dez? It’s the exact OPPOSITE of you backing Iupati now.
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Maybe I misunderstood, but it seems an awful lot like you’re saying that we should have taken Dez since the OTs were gone. Is that NOT what you just said?
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LOL!
Ok, man, I’m done. You can have it.
This is pointless.
I’ll accept the retard label from you for having Dez Bryant on THE LIST of players that I would have been ok with at 8.
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Regarding post #71:
Yes, it would have been retarded to take WR at #8 without taking the best available player at a HIGHER need instead. We took the best available player that addressed a higher need. Taking 2nd round talent at MLB when we need more help at MLB than WR would have been stupid. The only needs that were addressed before OL/DL were at MLB, so I’m fine with it.
And yes, the shop is empty… we’re closed on Sundays.
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:37 pm
You said that taking Dez was addressing a need more than addressing any other.
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Bullshyt!
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Fl Pete is not only a failed draft blogging expert but NOW he is taking on environmental disaster cleanup!
“there is nothing that can be done that isn’t being done”
Sincerely,
Fl Pete
LMAO
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Jhill,
Look, I didn’t mean to get personal, but the fact of the matter is that I totally stand by the “putting rims on a car that doesn’t have an engine” analogy. Having ANY WR on that list is insane.
Take a second right now and think of whomever you think the best WR in the league is. Got him in mind yet? Okay, now… would you have traded our #8 pick for him and ignored OL/DL/MLB if given the chance?
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:41 pm
So despite the fact that Dez Bryant was the #1 WR, and the OTs who could help us were gone, ….
Nevermind.
LMFAO dude. Your are just TOO funny!
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Why not post the whole thing instead of taking bits and pieces?
“……, Nevermind” means an unfinished thought, right?
LMFAO!
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:41 pm
I just got a twitter update from ESPN.
“DEA probes drug abuse claims against New Orleans Saints.”
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Okay, instead of the “Nevermind,” how would you have ended it? As you left it, it gives the impression that you would have been fine with taking Dez instead of Iupati of anyone else who filled a higher need. You mentioned the OTs being gone and didn’t say anything else about it other than to keep implying that filling the NEED at WR was good.
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:43 pm
SIGN DT JOHN HENDERSON!
PLAY GOETHEL AT BLOCKING FB if need be!
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Hmm Hmmm, well, there it is…
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:44 pm
And I didn’t take bits and pieces… I left off the last sentence. Here’s the whole post from you:
“So despite the fact that Dez Bryant was the #1 WR, and the OTs who could help us were gone, ….
Nevermind.
LMFAO dude. Your are just TOO funny!”
There, the WHOLE thing… no bits and pieces.
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:44 pm
# SteveAlford21 Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:41 pm
I just got a twitter update from ESPN.
“DEA probes drug abuse claims against New Orleans Saints.”
^^^^^^^^^
Sean Payton is a Vicodin Pill Popper!
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:47 pm
now that McClain is here…
there is no question in my mind that we took the right guy…
not 100% on the Houston pick… but from what i’m hearing… we got a very good guy… very very good…
i’m pretty stoked about our defense going into this season…
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Vicodin? Pfffft…
Ten milligrams of hydrocodone at MOST… I thought it was going to be performance enhancers… or oxycontin at least… not weakass lortabs and vicodin.
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:52 pm
BP America Chairman and President Lamar McKay told me efforts to trigger the blowout preventer to stop the flow of oil from the sea floor are like performing “open heart surgery at 5,000 feet in the dark with robot-controlled submarines.” During my exclusive “This Week” interview, McKay said he believes the cause of the explosion on the Deepwater Horizon oil rig that led the loss of 11 lives and to its eventual sinking was “a failed piece of equipment”. McKay added, “We don’t know why it failed yet in this contracted rig.”
McKay said BP, oil industry and government partners are working on four fronts to manage the massive spill: 1) stopping the leak at the source, 2) working on a containment system to collect the oil below the surface and channel the flow through a pipe, 3) fighting to keep oil from washing up on shore and 4) dealing with the clean-up of any oil on and off shore.
A containment dome, McKay said, has been fabricated and is in the final engineering phase. McKay said he expects the dome to be deployed in 6-8 days.
Estimates of how much oil is emanating from the sea floor are “very difficult,” McKay said, “because you can’t measure [it] in any way accurately.” He added that “there is a large uncertainty range” around the estimate of 5,000 barrels per day that is said to be flowing from the well.
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:53 pm
the above was from Jake Tapper, ABC News…
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:54 pm
You mentioned the OTs being gone and didn’t say anything else about it other than to keep implying that filling the NEED at WR was good.
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Just can’t let it go, huh?
Try reading your original post on the subject. The reason YOU gave for Dez Bryant being a retarded pick was the Oline not being up to par. Had you ranted on about us needing a DT as the reason we didn’t need Dez Bryant, then maybe I would have talked about Suh or McCoy being gone.
Your being ridiculous now. You KNOW tha Dez Bryant was just ONE player on my list of people who I thought would help this team at #8. You even responded to a post I made that CLEARLY stated that my #1 choice was Mike Iupati.
Yet you want to sit here and talk about what I’m “implying”?
Cmon man!
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:56 pm
I know everyone is clamoring for us to take more line players in the draft, but I wouldn’t be suprised if the two biggst flops in our draft are Valdheer and Houston.
On the other hand, I wouldn’t be suprised if McClain, Ford, and McFadden are our top guys to come from our draft.
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:57 pm
ANYWAY …. as in moving on!
I’m stoked with the McClain pick! (he was on my list too Steve!)
MLB was BY FAR a bigger need that the Dline. I actually like what we have at DT as I fully expect Seymour to get a lot of snaps there. Taking at DT who would NOT get snaps with Seymour, Kelly, and Bryant in front of them would have been CRAZY, IMO.
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Fl Pete are YOU still talking about the oil spill that Barback 0bama ignored for 10 days ?
Ok, carry on!
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Cut GarbageKowski! He sucks, and we don’t need him. Print that!!
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Fl Pete, drink your can of ensure & go to bed.
Why don’t you mention Jasper Brinkley a few 1000 more times and then call it a night!
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Jamarcus and all his grunting glory may get cut before Bruce takes off his sling.
Print that!!!!
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:02 pm
i’m thinking Houston is going to be very very good for us…
Lamarr Houston, Texas
Height: 6-3. Weight: 305.
Projected 40 Time: 5.02.
Combine 40 Time: 4.85.
Benchx225: 30. Vertical: .
Projected Round (2010): 2-3.
11/28/09: Having a monster year for the Longhorns with 37 tackles, 13.5 TFL and five sacks in 11 games.
2/12/09: Accumulated six TFL and 1.5 TFL in 2008.
7/30/08: Lamarr Houston started 11 games as a sophomore. While his bread and butter is stopping the run, Houston pitched in with 12 tackles for loss and 4.5 sacks. He also registered 66 total tackles. Houston was an All-Big XII honorable mention.
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:03 pm
Also, cut S Williams, Eugene, Ekugiba, Morris, and Luke!!
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Damn,
After the beatdown Fl. Pete dished out in post 70, I’m surprised somebody would want to bring that topic back up. LMFAO.
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:04 pm
The only thing that worries me about Houston is the stigma that followed D-lineman from Texas.
It has been better of late (Orakpo, Casey Hampton), but for awhile it was like Jeff Tedford QB’s, a ton of flops.
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Jhill,
I had DT slightly higher than MLB in terms of need… with OL being our TOP need (gotta keep the Defense off the field AND put some points on the board). If we don’t get a big run-stuffing DT, then our awesome new MLB will be trying to shed blocks from Cs and Gs on nearly every running play. That will wear him down a lot AND prevent him from making the stop at the LoS, because the RB will already be at the 2nd level after TK gets run over by the initial blocker(s).
MLB was needed for MORE than just run defense, however: Kirk was almost always out of position at MLB against the pass (he was GREAT against the pass as OLB, though… and in our rare 3-4 looks, he was great on the strongside as ILB) and for some reason, he loved to drop back WAY too much on pass plays, surrendering the short middle for an easy first down to a RB on a quick dumpoff.
I understand the rationale of wanting MLB more, though… and it’s a close race to me, but if I had my choice the day before the draft between best DT and best MLB, then I would have to take DT. Given the situation that we were in, McClain was the best possible pick, given our needs and the players available to fit our most pressing needs.
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:06 pm
I don’t know if Al will cut Jabustus, but he should if Jabustus doesn’t take a pay cut.
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:09 pm
We need to add another DT (Henderson), and add a vet WR. IMHO
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:12 pm
# buckeyeraider Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Damn,
After the beatdown Fl. Pete dished out in post 70, I’m surprised somebody would want to bring that topic back up. LMFAO.
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whats up buckeye!!! i thought the same thing reg post#70 thats some funny shyt
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:14 pm
If Heard plays well, then we don’t need Henderson, but we need another DT. Des, TK, and Seymour are not enough, we need one more DT to have a good rotation. (SnB, incase you were right) also, Our WR are young and unproven.
I’m not sold on W Joseph.
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:15 pm
If we don’t get a big run-stuffing DT, then our awesome new MLB will be trying to shed blocks from Cs and Gs on nearly every running play.
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You do realize we run a 4-3, right?
I’d like an example of a 4-3 team, other than Minny, who has a “big run stuffing DT”?
And again, Tommy Kelly, Rich Seymour, and Bryant are getting the majority of the snaps at DT.
You’d have to be a retard to not understand that!
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:15 pm
O,
How are you tonight?
With the drafting of Stevie Brown from that school up north, and the other kid, the DB from that other school up north, Hiram Eugene’s scholarship may finally be revoked. Thank god, after that embarrasment vs. Willis last season.
As for Ike Ekijuba, I don’t know what you got against the guy, unless you just think he is overpaid.
He is a core special teams player, and a good one. Hope to hell he never has to see the field as LB though.
Legalize it!
Go Bucks!
But more importantly, Just win, Baby!
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:17 pm
MistaBrown Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Fl Pete I realize you are probably senile and have alzheimer’s but what does any of that have to do with a current incompetent Pres sitting on his hands while there is a environmental disaster going on?
FK’n dipsh!t
================
KATRINA!!!!!!
You choose to be blind and thats a mental illness shared by ALL Republicans.
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:19 pm
MistaBrown Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Fl Pete, drink your can of ensure & go to bed.
Why don’t you mention Jasper Brinkley a few 1000 more times and then call it a night!
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PUUUUUUUUUUH Thetic!
All he’s got is something from the 09′ pre draft. what a loser.
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:21 pm
ya what has anyone heard abot Heard?? lol
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Florida Pete Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:52 pm
BP America Chairman and President Lamar McKay told me efforts to trigger the blowout preventer to stop the flow of oil from the sea floor are like performing “open heart surgery at 5,000 feet in the dark with robot-controlled submarines.” During my exclusive “This Week” interview, McKay said he believes the cause of the explosion on the Deepwater Horizon oil rig that led the loss of 11 lives and to its eventual sinking was “a failed piece of equipment”. McKay added, “We don’t know why it failed yet in this contracted rig.”
McKay said BP, oil industry and government partners are working on four fronts to manage the massive spill: 1) stopping the leak at the source, 2) working on a containment system to collect the oil below the surface and channel the flow through a pipe, 3) fighting to keep oil from washing up on shore and 4) dealing with the clean-up of any oil on and off shore.
A containment dome, McKay said, has been fabricated and is in the final engineering phase. McKay said he expects the dome to be deployed in 6-8 days.
Estimates of how much oil is emanating from the sea floor are “very difficult,” McKay said, “because you can’t measure [it] in any way accurately.” He added that “there is a large uncertainty range” around the estimate of 5,000 barrels per day that is said to be flowing from the well.
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This is typical of disaster profiteering launched by Texas oil men. Who you think gonna be asked to clean it up?
Oil men. Oil men with the expertise. Oil men who’ll profit BILLIONS of YOUR tax money to do so.
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Buckeye,
Good evening to you and all the great people in the great state of OHIO!!
Ekujiba is getting paid 1.5 mil to play STs ONLY! That’s too much. I like players who can play STs, and can contribute D and O if you need them. Condo is diff IMO.
The OSU > Preppie Mich
Legalize it!!
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Jhill,
Of course I know that we run a 4-3. I also know that Seymour is favored to be a DE with us (I think that’s retarded, he’s more suited for DT in 4-3, but that’s how we’ve handled him). Bryant showed a lot of promise, but I don’t know if he’s ready to break out yet… and I am completely in favor of dropping TK. However, the point is this: TK is not a run-stuffer… he is a penetrating DT. Seymour is a fantastic run-stuffer, but we do not use him at DT enough. Bryant is also a vertical rusher, rather than an “eat up the blockers, hold your ground, and stop the run” DT. Those guys are “under tackles.” Do you understand what that means?
We need a big, run-stuffing DT to stand beside the Under Tackle, taking up two blockers so that the UT can penetrate on passing downs or make the stop on rushing downs. TK has the size for it, but just can’t get the job done. Until we have a big run-stuffer beside him, he will never be a dominant UT. Please question my football knowledge again, bro. I’ll be more than happy to explain things.
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:28 pm
# Raider O Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:09 pm
We need to add another DT (Henderson), and add a vet WR. IMHO
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aint that the truth!!! lets give big john some money lets give Terrel some money bring them in and buy into our “new” systems
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Nnamdi did you just criticize me for 2009 Fl Pete draft blunder while bringing up 2005 Katrina ?
FK’n dipsh!t
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Nnamdi, can you find your own a$$ ?
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:32 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:23 pm
This is typical of disaster profiteering launched by Texas oil men. Who you think gonna be asked to clean it up?
Oil men. Oil men with the expertise. Oil men who’ll profit BILLIONS of YOUR tax money to do so.
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yeah… that’s the thing… it CANNOT be cleaned up…
they will be able to stop the “leak”… how long that will actually take no-one knows…
but this oil dissipates… into water… it mixes… just like italian dressing…
you can’t clean that up… no amount of dish soap is gonna get rid of it…
and as bad as the stuff that’s gonna wash ashore is… imagine what it’s doing as it mixes into the water… to the fisheries, crab, shrimp…
truth is… if you can actually clean up 10% of a spill… you’ve probably done all you can…
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:33 pm
MistaBr0wn,
Would you be offended if I critiqued and criticized you for criticizing his criticism?
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Nnamdi, if you want to stick up for another grown man on a blog I have no problem with that but can you at least not make an a$$ out of yourself in the process?
Thanks in advance.
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:34 pm
SteveAlford21 Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:33 pm
MistaBr0wn,
Would you be offended if I critiqued and criticized you for criticizing his criticism?
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as long as you are not overly critical…
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:35 pm
My sub needs jalapenos badly… but I do not feel like going to get some. I now fully understand JaMarcus and have full sympathy AND empathy for his plight.
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Everyone’s a critic…
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:35 pm
SteveA I have no idea who you are referring to but go ahead I’m not a sensitive little dweeb liberal, shoot!
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Fl Pete did you lose your bifocals? Steve was asking me a question, fall back and have a bowl of prunes.
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# Florida Pete Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:34 pm
SteveAlford21 Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:33 pm
MistaBr0wn,
Would you be offended if I critiqued and criticized you for criticizing his criticism?
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as long as you are not overly critical…
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:36 pm
MistaBrown Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Nnamdi, if you want to stick up for another grown man on a blog I have no problem with that but can you at least not make an a$$ out of yourself in the process?
Thanks in advance.
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this from you ???
who relies on the services of Ricochet to pummel Oakglen ???
sorry, buddy… but you truly are a moron…
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:37 pm
SteveA why did you insert a 0 in my name ?
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:39 pm
MistaBr0wn,
I was just going for some goofy humor. I have no political affiliation and want to bring an end to the false dichotomy that we call the two-party system. I really couldn’t care less about any of the political issues that you guys discuss.
Editorial Note: For all you morons out there who keep talking about things that mean nothing to you, the phrase is “I couldn’t care less.” Got that? Could NOT care less… it means that you don’t care anything at all, so it’s impossible for you to care even less. I’m so tired of seeing idiots say “I could care less.” GODDAMN IT… YOU STUPID BASTARDS! WHEN YOU SAY THAT, IT’S THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU MEAN!
Okay, I feel better now.
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:39 pm
bedtime… take care guys…
you too, mister brown…
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Fl Pete, I made OakGlen change his name to Seymour because I slammed him profusely before Richochet came on the scene.
Thanks for your input Pete, as always!
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Florida Pete Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:36 pm
this from you ???
who relies on the services of Ricochet to pummel Oakglen ???
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:40 pm
MistaBrown,
I have no idea why I did that. I do not make a habit of using “leetspeak,” so it’s not something that I’m used to doing. I guess it was just a weird little brainfart.
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Exactly!
lmao
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Florida Pete Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:39 pm
bedtime… take care guys…
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:42 pm
—”Raiders signed CB Joey Thomas, formerly of the Dolphins. Thomas, 29, has bounced around since being drafted in the third round by the Mike Sherman regime in Green Bay. He’s a practice body for minicamps”—
—”Raiders signed TE John Owens, formerly of the Seahawks. The move was actually made just prior to Oakland’s first pre-draft minicamp. Owens, 30, is a blocking tight end and veteran of nine NFL seasons”—
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:43 pm
SteveA,
I have never said what party I belong to. These goons assume since I trash this incompetent buffoon I’m a Rep, maybe I am, maybe I’m not. Govt is too BIG and both parties are guilty.
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SteveAlford21 Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:39 pm
MistaBr0wn,
I was just going for some goofy humor. I have no political affiliation and want to bring an end to the false dichotomy that we call the two-party system.
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:45 pm
Ok now back to breaking down the O-Line for the 1000th time today…
Gallery is kickin a$$! Go Raiders!
lol
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Go raiders!!
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Steve,
I did ask you esplayne …
Again,
I’d like an example of a 4-3 team, other than Minny, who has a “big run stuffing DT”?
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Nnamdi did you just criticize me for 2009 Fl Pete draft blunder while bringing up 2005 Katrina ?
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LMFAO!
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:51 pm
all that obamma has to do to stop the oil spill in the gulf is nuke the site,that will seal the hole in the ocean floor and burn of all the oil on top
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:53 pm
Jhill, its not funny!
Nnamdi is obviously handicapped or challenged in some sort of way..
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:53 pm
Speaking of handicapped & challenged.
Fat Kidd has arrived!
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:55 pm
what can we give up to get hayensworth
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Jhill, you didn’t ask me to explain, you asked for an example. I explained the theory of it, how it works and why it works. Many teams are doing most of their work out of a 3-4 base these days, so they have their run-stuffers at DE, a penetrating DT, and pass-rushing OLBs. The number of teams that run 4-3 as much as the Raiders do (almost solely) isn’t a high number, so they don’t use their personnel in that manner. If we are to continue to be a predominantly 4-3 team without a lot of 3-4, then we need to have a big run-stuffing DT, just like Minnesota. There doesn’t have to be a lot of examples of it for it to be correct, because we don’t see teams staying in 4-3 for as many snaps per game as we do anymore. Ten years ago, there would be a lot of examples. Now, the big anchors on the DL for MOST teams are the 3-4 DEs. Incidentally, those 3-4 DEs pretty much serve the same role as the 4-3 DT. If you want examples of the type, size, and philosophical similarity to the 4-3 run-stuffing DT of which I speak, then look at the teams with big, solid anchors that stop the run as 3-4 DEs. They clog up the running lanes or take up multiple blockers so that the penetrating 3-4 NT and OLBs can make the rush the passer or make the tackle.
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:57 pm
‘night fellers.
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:57 pm
Ignorance has never been so apparent.
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fat kidd Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:51 pm
that will seal the hole
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:58 pm
this from you ???
who relies on the services of Ricochet to pummel Oakglen ???
sorry, buddy… but you truly are a moron…
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HILARIOUS !!!!!!!!
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Awww man …
This is pure comedy!
Need popcorn!
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Quote:
“OLBs can make the rush the passer”
No more drugs for THAT man!
May 2nd, 2010 at 7:03 pm
MistaBrown Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:37 pm
SteveA why did you insert a 0 in my name ?
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You may have addressed this already, but since you mention it, wha happened to the 0?
MistaBr0wn was the only Mista I’ve seen around here and actually wondered where he came from.
May 2nd, 2010 at 7:03 pm
anybody see that outsied the lines piece on jamarcus 2day?
May 2nd, 2010 at 7:03 pm
In other words, was that you or an imposter?
May 2nd, 2010 at 7:06 pm
MistaBrown Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Nnamdi, can you find your own a$$ ?
MistaBrown Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Nnamdi did you just criticize me for 2009 Fl Pete draft blunder while bringing up 2005 Katrina ?
FK’n dipsh!t
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Dodge ,perry spin! Anything to avoid the issues aye loser?
Thats right, NEVER address any of your opinions or respond in any way you f-u-hking loser.
Keep the delusion that you’re not an azz hloe s whos wrong about everything.
Thats why this country sucks because moronic idiots like you choose to bolster your BS with snippets of this and half truths of that and keep your lies alive by avoiding anything that conflicts with your delusion TRUTH OR NOT.
You sicken me and have wasted enough of my precious time.
Truly pearls before the swine.
May 2nd, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Steve,
That was a pretty long winded way of saying you don’t have a example.
May 2nd, 2010 at 7:08 pm
SICKEN!!!!
Go Raiders…
May 2nd, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Jhill,
When other teams don’t stay in the 4-3 as much as we do, there’s no need for them to commit personnel that way. Most teams use base 3-4 these days… or at least use 3-4 and 4-3 at around a 50/50 rate. I told you what would be analogous as examples given that teams are mostly 3-4 these days. Are you saying that 3-4 teams don’t have big, run-stuffing DEs?
Tell me a team that uses 4-3 as much as we do (besides Minnesota), and there will be your example… unless they suck against the run… like we do.
May 2nd, 2010 at 7:15 pm
I’ll reiterate:
There’s a shortage of examples, considering the nearly league-wide philosophy of base 3-4 and therefore do not have need to utilize a big run-stuffing DT, rather having their big run-stuffers at DE… since it’s a 3-4. Where do you not understand that? … or are you just trying to be sarcastic and “win” the argument that way?
May 2nd, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Jhill,
I have 2 accounts.
MistaBr0wn & MistaBrown
May 2nd, 2010 at 7:17 pm
I’m only 17 minutes in, but Iron Man 2 is quite awesome so far.
May 2nd, 2010 at 7:17 pm
MistaBrown Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:57 pm
Ignorance has never been so apparent.
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fat kidd Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:51 pm
that will seal the hole
…………………………….well mistabrown thinks the oil spill started because of health care reform ,so if we repeal healthcare reform and dont tax the wealthy that will seal the hole and make the oil on the surface go away.
May 2nd, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Steve,
Are you really going with other teams don’t run the 4-3 as much as we do?
5 of the top 10 defenses in the league run the 4-3.
What does “as much as we do” mean?
We ran plenty of 3DL sets last year. Even dropped Warren and Kelly into coverage.
May 2nd, 2010 at 7:34 pm
There’s a shortage of examples, considering the nearly league-wide philosophy of base 3-4
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Really?
At BEST half the league is running the 3-4.
May 2nd, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Jhill,
On that note, I need to take my time to speak my extreme pleasure at the fact that we gave a lot more 3-4 looks last year than ever before. I hope that we continue to mix it up and go 3-4 more often and blitz a LOT more often. With our current LB corps, we would have a beastly 3-4 set and would be perfectly suited to go to zone blitzes early and often.
Even though we showed 3-4 a LOT MORE than ever before last season, we were still in the 4-3 for at least 75% of all 1st and 2nd down defensive snaps. We won’t count 3rd down because they were usually Nickel situations… but even in Nickel, we were going mostly from a 4 DL formation.
May 2nd, 2010 at 7:36 pm
i have so much to say , i havent got to talk on here for ever now i have account here
May 2nd, 2010 at 7:42 pm
SteveAlford21 Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 7:17 pm
I’m only 17 minutes in, but Iron Man 2 is quite awesome so far.
……………………thats amazing since it hasnt been released yet?
May 2nd, 2010 at 7:45 pm
Jhill,
I’m going to need to see some stats on that, bro.
I’ve read a LOT of articles over the past few years about how most of the league’s team’s defensive philosophy has shifted toward 3-4 as the base defense and only using the 4-3 as a change of pace. The success of Shawn Merriman (steroid-using PoS that should have been banned for LIFE) and other pass-rush specialists at LB has made it the “in” thing to do. The gist that I’ve gotten in recent seasons is that the 3-4 is the primary defensive alignment for more teams than the 4-3. I’ve gotten this from pretty much every news outlet that I’ve read articles from (si.com, espn.com, various other websites and my subscriptions to the sporting news and si). I watch a LOT of games on tv throughout the season… and what I’ve seen there has pretty much validated that. Outside of Raiders games, I’m seeing 3-4 a lot more than 4-3 in the modern NFL.
One of us will have to investigate to find hte % of 3-4 snaps vs the % or 4-3 snaps in the NFL last year, minus the Raiders stats.
May 2nd, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Fat Kidd,
It has been released in Russia and Spain…
May 2nd, 2010 at 7:54 pm
who here blogs on raidersbeats.com
May 2nd, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Steve,
How about just identifying 4-3 teams?
It’s not that hard.
May 2nd, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Iron Man 2 | Trailer & Official Movie Site | In Theaters May 7
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Jhill,
But I’m not referring to teams that run 4-3 as their base, I’m talking about teams that run it more than 50/50 compared to 3-4. If your D switches around a lot, then it wouldn’t fit.
However, I finally used my brain for a second and had a “duh” moment. The prototype of the player to which I refer… a man who was made the highest paid defensive player a couple of years ago… Albert Haynesworth… in Tennessee’s 4-3 (and they were almost purely 4-3). Then he got away and was the big run-stuffing DT in Washington’s 4-3, but now is unhappy because they are going to switch to 3-4 and he wants out of town.
Also fitting that mold would be newly available Henderson, recently of Jacksonville. He was a big, run-stuffing DT in a 4-3. There are two examples for you other than Minnesota and us. And especially in Tennessee’s case, you can see the clear advantage of having a huge run-stuffing DT lined up next to the UT.
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:01 pm
steve what other movies are you pretending to watch?
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Fat Kidd,
I’m watching it right now. It hasn’t been released in the U.S. yet, but a pirate with a goal can find it… it’s on the net already for download if one knows where to look. The video is from a stolen copy of the russian print. I don’t know where they got the english audio, but it’s there and it works. The video is great, but the audio is kind of “hollow.”
It’s the “Imagine” release. Imagine is a pirate group that releases movies that are still in theaters. They don’t do dvd rips or brd rips.
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:03 pm
One thing we will learn this year, is that Kirk and Howard really weren’t any good.
Our new LB’s are all better against the run, and probably better blitzers. Rolando is a true student of the game, and I’m going out on a limb, but I bet Groves doesn’t celebrate tackles 8 yards down the field on 2nd and 5.
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:03 pm
Fat Kidd,
Here’s a link:
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5528235/Iron_Man_2_CAM_XViD_-_IMAGiNE
Next time, don’t call someone a liar when you don’t know wtf you’re talking about, k?
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:04 pm
At least DHB is “grading out” well
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:05 pm
But I’m not referring to teams that run 4-3 as their base, I’m talking about teams that run it more than 50/50 compared to 3-4. If your D switches around a lot, then it wouldn’t fit.
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That’s what I call BS’ing, Steve.
There are no half 3-4, half 4-3 teams in the league. Either you are like we are and mix in 3 DL elements in some passing situations, or you are strictly a 4 man front defense.
Washington, Carolina, Jags, Cincy, Tenn, Minny, Indy, Saints, etc, etc … 4-3 teams do NOT switch back and forth, in and out of the 3-4.
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:08 pm
I really need to step my internet search game up!
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:14 pm
So stayed at the MGM the last two nights and that place was nutz!!!
Don’t know how to say this any way that is not PC, but damn there most have been a memo amongst the black community to hit-up the MGM for the fight. It was a high-class chocolate city!! The absolute cream of the crop for honies, rappers and athletes everywhere.
Talked to Brendan Haywood for a second, had Tank Tohnson and some dude rocking a Bears hat in my elevator, and walked right past Holyfield.
Shyt was crazy!! Never seen anything like it.
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Sims and Shirley with Carolina aren’t really big, but they compliment the UT as the type of guy to which I refer… the 300+lb DT that takes on the blockers so that the LB can make the stop.
Muir and Johnson play that role for the Colts.
I already mentioned Haynesworth for Washington last year and the Titans before that. Tennessee has Marks TRYING to fill that role, but not doing as well as Albert.
Already mentioned Henderson from Jax and Minnesota has been used already.
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Vegas,
If I’ve learned ANYTHING from South Park, it’s that black people are deathly afraid of ghosts. Next time you go to a bout, you should wear a sheet and go “woooooooooooo” and see how many of them you can scare off. Also, according to the show, you should burn a lower-case letter “t.”
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Jhill
You mentioned Minny having a big DT and you said there are no others in the 4-3 defense that have big DTs. Ok, how about the Giants, they just got Lineval Joseph 6′6 325 lbs in the second round. Bengals got 6′3 318 lbs playing the one gap and Tank Johnson playing the three technique. The Jaguars had Henderson and Terrance Knight who is 6′3 325 lbs. The Bills has Stroud but are now switching to the 3-4, the Redskins has Hynesworth. The Bengals got Peko.
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Vegas,
Please don’t do that… I was joking. I don’t want you to get arrested for a hate crime or get shot.
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:23 pm
Steve,
That episode was harsher than harsh.
“Get out of our town you Richers!!!”
MGM was cool though. Definately one of the hottest spots in the world on that very night, and me and the wife were right in the thick of it. And speaking of thick….holly crap I seen some things.
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:24 pm
Raiders4eve,
Thank you. I’ve snorted WAY too many percocet today (it’s my day off, so I’ve been getting a little out of hand) and haven’t been able to think of any good examples. Hell, I mentioned Haynesworth and Henderson MYSELF… SEVERAL TIMES today… before he asked for examples. When he asked, my mind went completely blank and I couldn’t think of any… even though I had been talking about it and given examples already!
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:25 pm
Vegas,
Another classic episode:
“OOOOh… I think I know it, Pat… but I don’t think I should say it…”
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Fat Kidd,
I’ll accept your apology for calling me a liar whenever you’re ready to give it.
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:35 pm
The Welch’s “Berries and Cherries” Fruit Snacks are amazingly good.
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Raiders4eve,
And we have a guy named Heard.
But for some reason people keep begging for a “big run stuffing DT.”
And I NEVER said no other team besides Minny has a fat guy. I ASKED a question which was for Steve to give me an example of the 4-3 that uses the type of run stuffing DT he was alluding to since the ones we have aren’t good enough.
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Jhill,
I HOPE that Heard will be good enough, but I don’t know enough about him. I KNOW that Seymour would be good enough, but for some reason, we just don’t commit to using him primarily at DT lined up beside TK. I LOVE what I’ve seen from Dezmond Bryant, but I don’t think he’s ready to take over full-time. TK is an Under Tackle… not the kind of player to which I refer… and hopefully, with a guy like Haynesworth or Henderson beside him (or Seymour moved there fulltime), TK would EARN his massive paycheck.
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:42 pm
You mean that guy Henderson that no one else in the league wants?
Pass.
Seymour didn’t play as much DT last year because of the ridiculous hole we had at DE (see Trevor Scott) and we had a 330lb guy named Warren there too. Seems to me like they have plans for Shaugnessy and Houtson at DE, so it makes sense that we will see more Seymour at DT.
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Jhill,
As I’ve stated numerous times before, I REALLY HOPE that we see MUCH more of Seymour at DT. I kind of gave up on that hope a little bit last season, though. Remember the home opener? Seymour moved around a lot, but was primarily DT… and he wreaked HAVOC on S.D.
That’s the thing of which I want to see more… Seymour inside, lined up next to TK, flanked by Matt and… I reckon Houston, since Cable said that Houston would play DE for us. For about an hour after the Houston pick, I was happy as could be, because I thought that he was going to be our DT to plug the holes up the gut… McClain in Rd 1, Houston in Rd 2: Run Defense properly addressed. Then Cable announced that Houston would play DE and my pleas to trade for Haynesworth resumed.
Hopefully it’s a moot point and we’ll move Seymour PERMANENTLY to DT… but I won’t hold my breath.
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Against the run, Seymour is a better DE than DT.
Against the pass he is a better DT than a DE.
Got to play your players to their strengths. Seymour will slide inside occasionally, but it will be far from permanent.
May 2nd, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Vegas,
I know that we are finally rid of Gerard Warren, so the point is moot… but I would much rather have had Seymour at DT against the run than Warren. I would have preferred to have Seymour at DT beside Kelly for EVERY snap in the 4-3 last season. Hopefully Heard can get the job done against the run if Seymour can’t do it or won’t be allowed to try
May 2nd, 2010 at 9:05 pm
SteveAlford21 Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Vegas,
If I’ve learned ANYTHING from South Park, it’s that black people are deathly afraid of ghosts. Next time you go to a bout, you should wear a sheet and go “woooooooooooo” and see how many of them you can scare off. Also, according to the show, you should burn a lower-case letter “t.”
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That’s why the KKK went with white hoods.
May 2nd, 2010 at 9:07 pm
I love the whole “twitter” thing Jerry has going on.
Now I can find out in real time that JaMarcus can’t throw, and DHB can’t catch.
Technology…
May 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Don Cheadle is an awesome actor, but as I watch Iron Man 2… I find myself wishing that Terrence Howard had been Rhody again. I’ve had to pause this thing a million times to read a comment and then type a reply here, so the pace has been slow… I’m only at the 47 minute mark now, lol. The movie has been great so far, though… I’ll let y’all know how it turns out. I won’t give any spoilers; I’ll just tell you whether it’s worth your money or not… because some people still actually PAY MONEY to see movies… you silly peckerwoods.
May 2nd, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Heard….lol. He is this years Franz Jospeh.
Before we start investing any hope in this guy, let’s make sure he has a chance at making the roster.
May 2nd, 2010 at 9:13 pm
I really need to start drinking again… I’m getting WAY out of hand with the percocet 30s.
May 2nd, 2010 at 9:14 pm
I’m seriously starting to make Bret Favre look like a painpill lightweight… and that’s not good. And for the record, I would bet everything that I have… that he was SNORTIN those vicodin. It’s really the best way to do ‘em… and he’s a smart dude.
May 2nd, 2010 at 9:42 pm
I think 4-3 teams that have a NT would be Jacksonville. Without Henderson, they have Terrance Knighton from last year. 6-3 325 pounds, heard he is good at taking up the 2 linemen. Wasn’t Haynesworth the same in Tennessee?
May 2nd, 2010 at 9:48 pm
“I love the whole “twitter” thing Jerry has going on.
Now I can find out in real time that JaMarcus can’t throw, and DHB can’t catch.”
LOL!
I think it’s funny that there are still fans here who think these two guys can make it. So sad…
It’s Alvis Whited all over again..
May 2nd, 2010 at 9:54 pm
Steve,
Why don’t you smoke weed instead of snorting?
May 2nd, 2010 at 10:00 pm
what happen to those guys that know about football
May 2nd, 2010 at 10:06 pm
Raider O,
I grew up in the country mountains of Virginia on a tobacco farm. There was no liquor store within an hour and a half. There were no “real drugs” like cocaine or heroin. All there was in my area was beer and weed… but there was a LOT of it. I never developed a taste for beer; I still hate that piss to this very day (but I love whiskey). However, my brother (eight years older than I am) got me started smoking pot the day that I started high school. I got totally burned out on it after a few years… have no desire to smoke it and even very expensive weed just doesn’t give me a good buzz… it just makes me feel stupid.
When I joined the Army and got out of the country, I experienced “real drugs” like coke, acid, shrooms, and the god of them all: ecstasy. I didn’t really develop a problem until after I got out of the Army and then after I quit football, but then I ended up going WAY overboard over the course of a few years. I finally found a way to quit with the coke and ecstasy, by trading those drugs for different ones: prescription painkillers. I spend a lot of years buying them off the streets illegally, but now… finally… I went and got the MRIs on my knee and neck… and am getting 240 perc30s, 120 perc 15s, and 90 xanax 2mg prescribed to me every month. I snort them because it gets the medicine into your system MUCH more quickly and it saves your stomach from all the damage that taking that much medication would do. It also gives you an entirely different buzz. Percocet is “oxycodone,” which is an opiate. Basically, it’s pretty much snorting heroin… except I don’t have to worry about going to jail, because I get it legally because my knee is so destroyed that the Dr.s think I need this much and maybe even more.
I’ve been battling the Veteran’s Administration for years about getting them to FIX it for me, but after all the cutbacks and B.S., it’s hard to get them to do anything that they SHOULD. Hopefully, I’ll make progress soon, because I can’t afford a knee replacement surgery on my own. Either way, I hope that answers your question, bro.
May 2nd, 2010 at 10:40 pm
Kirk Says:
It’s Alvis Whited all over again..
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Alvis got paid by the hour. DHB will have 20 million in the back before someone admits to the mistake.
May 2nd, 2010 at 10:40 pm
Steve,
I miss doing coke, but I don’t miss crashing. lol
May 2nd, 2010 at 10:46 pm
Steve,
I did x, sherm, coke, shrooms, acid, but now I just smoke weed.
May 2nd, 2010 at 10:54 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Its called sarcasm! lol you idiot!!!
Means ur a dumb fook..
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Seymour Bush Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 10:18 am
The “sharpest marble”? Huh. The “sharpest marble.” What the fook does that mean?
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I would believe that, but you think there’s 28 hours in a day. You’ve posted that! YOU are A MORON! M-O-R-O-N. MORON!
May 2nd, 2010 at 10:58 pm
MistaBrown Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:03 pm
I see Barback purple lips 0bama was full of jokes last night while he snoozes for 10 days during the biggest environmental disaster in the last 50 yrs. No prob Pres its just OIL in the Gulf! Take your time…
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What is he supposed to do? Put a cape on, turn into Aquaman and go down a mile deep and put a cork in it? You probably believe Aquaman is on Mars right now, searching for signs of life. Dude, you are A MORON! M-O-R-O-N. MORON!
May 2nd, 2010 at 11:01 pm
MistaBrown Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Problem is in B-More H Jackson was the Qb coach not the OC. Wasn’t his system in B-More. Now he is running what you can call his “system”.
I’m always available to correct you SeyGlen!
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When you are the OC, and you have a few new athletes including QB’s you are most likely going to install your own system. Who’s system do you think you are going to use? Lane Kiffins? Dude, you are A MORON! M-O-R-O-N. MORON!
May 2nd, 2010 at 11:03 pm
MistaBrown Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Oh ok Jhill, just let it keep spilling into the water! Sounds good! Why didn’t I think of that ?
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This guy is SO STUPID, he needs a monkey brain transplant to improve his intelligence. Seriously.
May 2nd, 2010 at 11:03 pm
SteveAlford21,
Pain is only a sign that you’re alive.
May 2nd, 2010 at 11:08 pm
Raider O,
If you never had any “smackies,” (those are rolls cut with herion), you really HAVE TO try them if you ever decide to do ecstacy again. You know how when you come down off a roll, all your serotonin is used up and you just feel all dead to the world and everything is grey… no colors, no real sensation, no tastes… everything is just bleh… well, I loved ecstasy that was cut with coke and actually stayed loyal to them for about 6 months, rolling about four nights per week, every week… until I tried smackies. If the roll is cut with herion or mescaline, then the comedown is FANTASTIC. When the MDMA wears off (after rolling for about 8 hours… I usually parachuted 1 and a half pills, then would parachute another when I peaked), the heroin kicks in and you get a really smooth, floaty comedown for about six hours. It totally beats the pants off of crashing.
I loved E cut with coke because it got you all tingly before the roll kicked in, but that’s the last of the coke that you ever feel… and then the comedown is even worse, because it’s an ecstasy comedown AND a coke crash. A heroin/mescaline cut is so great, though… it’s the bee’s knees, bro. When you decide to roll, unless you can get pure Molly, it’s worth your time to look around for smackies.
May 2nd, 2010 at 11:11 pm
I actually had to force myself to quit when I got to the point that I had to parachute THREE to start with and then at least one and a half when I peaked. Even though I was getting hooked up at dealer prices, that ended up being a LOT of money.
May 2nd, 2010 at 11:16 pm
Can’t believe Russell has nannies to chaperone him. Un-freaking-believable. Cut this clown! Just watched Ritchie and Rhodes interview on ESPN, talking about Russell. They talked about how he slept in meetings. Had to be given breaks, then woken up to return back to the meetings. What a friggin joker. Cut this loser. What a sorry excuse for a football player. If he amounts to doing anything this year. ANYTHING. It will be because his free lunch ticket is about to expire. That’s the one and ONLY reason. This guy has no integrity whatsoever. What a disgrace for his family. Actually, it sounds like his family encourages his laziness so it may just be a reflection of his family. Unreal. A 270 pound POS is what you are, Russell.
May 2nd, 2010 at 11:18 pm
Russell will be the butt of all jokes for years to come. Leaf needs to step down as the biggest joke in NFL history ’cause here comes King Elexis.
May 2nd, 2010 at 11:28 pm
Steve,
I got married, and I have a kid now. I don’t think I will ever do those drugs again, but I do have some good/ funny memories.
May 2nd, 2010 at 11:37 pm
NorthernD,
Pain DOES tell you that you’re alive, but when there is no cartilege left behind your kneecap, so the patella grinds against the femur whenever you flex or extend your leg… that’s not a good thing. The injury happened when I was in the Army. My ACL and MCL got torn (as well as five ligaments in my right ankle) on a bad landing on a VERY bad LZ. Even though my feet and knees were together like they’re supposed to be, that didn’t matter, because there was a hole in the ground right where my right foot came down.
I was young and hard-headed and thought that I would tough it out. Well, I didn’t know how serious it was… I just knew that I was in pain and that I didn’t want to be a p-u-s-s-y. I went for a MONTH with it like that. I ran six miles every Tuesday and Thursday for P.T. (my unit always did six miles). I did all the other P.T. as well, which mean keeping my knees bent during situps, completely extended during flutterkicks and pushups, and gruelingly changing doing “mountainclimbers” on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. On the fourth Friday after my injury, we had a P.T. test for record. When I finished the run, SFC Seagraves was at the finish line giving times. He looked at my knee, which was severely swollen and asked if I had gone to sick call to get it checked out. I said no. He said “You’re going Monday morning.”
My normal time for the two-mile run (distance used on the P.T. tests) was between 10:20 and 10:45 in the three P.T. tests prior to that one. However, I was in severe pain and knew that I couldn’t keep that pace, so I paced myself to finish under 13 minutes, which was the required time to make a 100 for the run. It wasn’t extended scale (extra points for doing better than 100), but I felt that I could settle for that, as long as I could deal with the pain and push myself through it. I finished in a time of 13 minutes EXACTLY.
When I went to sick call Monday morning, they did an x-ray to look for bone damage and an MRI to look for tissue damage. After reading the films, the Dr asked me when the last time I ran was. I told him that I had run for a P.T. test the previous Friday. He asked how I did. I said, “I maxed it.” He said… and this is a direct quote that has stuck with me ever since… “I’m surprised that you could even finish a two mile run on this knee, let alone max it.”
He then went on to tell me about the ligament damage in the knee and the ankle. He showed me the films and explained to me that most of the cartilege had already been rubbed away because of the ACL and MCL failing to hold my kneecap in place, letting it grind against the bone as it ground out the cartilege. He even showed me the scrapes that would become bone scars. He then explained to me that there was no way to fix the issue without doing a total knee replacement. He said that there was an experimental procedure to replace cartilege with artificial cartilege, but that it was still in the testing phase and that there was no way in hell that the Army would pay to get that done… and likewise, they would not pay for the knee replacement. So they gave me lots of painkillers and strapped on a knee immobilizer and boot. I wasn’t allowed to do ANYTHING to move my knee and ankle for about two and a half months to allow the ligaments to heal. After that, I began physical therapy and the Dr re-evaluated me.
At that point, I was given two options: Reclassify (pick a new military job) or take a medical discharge. I LOVED my job. Psychological Operations was awesome. Not only was I Airborne, but I was in Special Operations, for god’s sake… it’s the kind of stuff they base video games on. Granted, I wasn’t a Green Beret (Special Forces) or a Ranger… but still, it was awesome. Well, I did NOT want to trade that in for a damned desk job. I also didn’t want a medical discharge. I wanted to finish my physical therapy and get back to my job. I told the Dr this. He said that he would NOT clear me to go back onto jump status, that I would be on a cane or a walker by the time that I was 30 if I went back to being Airborne.
I was told that I had 30 days to choose a new job or take the medical discharge. I decided to stick to my guns. I said that I wasn’t THAT injured and that I could go back to jump status (you can’t by Psyop without being Airborne). At the end of the 30 days, they asked if I was going to the medical board or if I had picked my new job. I said, “Neither.” So they said, “Okay… you made corporal in a year, great service record… alright then… breach of contract on us… Honorable Discharge.”
So I was unceremoniously and rudely shown the door because I loved my job. I got the Honorable Discharge because my “character of service” was perfect across the board (except for one little article-15. However, this seriously screwed me… because that kept me from being immediately enrolled in the VA medical department… and my stubbornness in saying that I could work through the injury and turning down the medical discharge meant that I didn’t get any disability percentage… so now, here I am at 30 years old… fighting like hell with the VA to get them to fix my knee… and furious with myself for being so stubborn and stupid as a 20 year old, just a short decade ago… and living in severe pain with a knee that throbs, swells, grinds, and screams at me constantly.
I used to say that pain just lets you know that you’re still alive. At this point, however, I’m well aware that I’m still alive and don’t need any more reminders.
May 2nd, 2010 at 11:46 pm
And yes, I played half a season of football on that knee and ankle. I thought that I could play through it, just like I honestly thought that I would be okay in the Army after finishing the physical therapy. I was able to block it out and recovered a LOT… however after a handful of games, I tweaked it again and reality set in… it was STUPID to try to keep playing and think that I would be okay. So I packed it in.
It didn’t really get BAD until I was about 27… and then it just started hurting on its own all the time. It has steadily gotten worse since then.
May 2nd, 2010 at 11:47 pm
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May 3rd, 2010 at 12:00 am
I know alot of guys with similiar stories. They tried to tough it out, and try to run through the injuries.
It takes me a few minutes for me to get up in the morning. It feels like I’ve been in car wreck if I sleep more than five hours at a time.
For me, I just stuck to the “life is pain” philosophy and I’ve been pretty much drug free as a result.
Everytime I was hurting (and there was plenty of it), I would try and justify the reason for it. After a while it became something I could deal with.
Mind you, my knees are not a mess, so I can’t blame you for that. I “twisted” my ankle one time on an ex and just wrapped my boot with tape and carried on. Spent four months in a cast after when I got it checked out. It clicks when I walk.
Before I left the infantry, I would tell all the new guys to record and document all their injuries because infantry is a young man’s game, and they’ll start to feel it soon.
I have chronic back pain because an IFV I was in went boom. I wasn’t bleeding so I never complained. Wish I had.
Hope the VA comes around gets you some cutting time.
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:07 am
NorthernD,
The major problem is that they have LOST MY MEDICAL RECORDS! So now they say, “We can’t establish that your injury is service-related, so we cannot help you. Can YOU establish that it is service-related? Do you have your medical records?”
I always reply with, “I HAD my medical records… and then I gave them to YOU when you asked for them! When I first came to the VA, you said to turn over my records to you for evaluation and then come back for department assignment. When I came back, you asked for my records again!”
So I’ve had to call the Army’s medical and personnel records depot in St. Louis. No luck… they say to check the hospital where I was treated or my old unit. I’ve called Womac Army Hospital in Ft. Bragg (where I was stationed and injured). No luck… they say to check with St. Louis. I called my old unit. They said, “You’re screwed.”
I have no idea what to do. I think I might just go ahead and apply for disability and see if that forces them to treat me so that they can get out of paying disability. I don’t want to collect disability, I just want my knee fixed. I’m running out of ideas or ways to get that done, though…
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:19 am
As far as the clicking, my neck cracks LOUDLY every time I tilt my head back… I’ve actually made a chick THROW UP… she literally puked when I did it. My right ankle GRINDS whenever I move my foot (because of the damage done when the ligaments were torn and everything was rubbing the wrong way). As for the knee… it pops loudly whenever I bend my leg, it swells if I walk more than 50 yards or if the air pressure changes in the slightest, and if you put your hand on top of my kneecap and I bend the joint, you can actually FEEL the grinding of kneecap on bone. This isn’t even addressing the lower-back issues that arose from walking out of airplanes… that’s trivial compared to the neck and knee.
The worst part of it for me is that aside from the arthritic swelling and discomfort, I was able to live with it very easily until a few years ago. Then, almost out of the blue, the cumulative effects of years of it all just finally reached critical mass. It was like waking up one morning to find that someone put you under anasthetic, then set you on fire while you were asleep… and now you’ve awakened to this excruciating trauma with no warning ahead of time.
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:44 am
SteveAlford21,
Keep trying to find the medical records. The military hates throwing out paperwork, so they must be out there somewhere.
You could try a lawyer and see if that helps you. Sometimes a good lawsuit will get the ball rolling.
I think they would rather give you you the surgery then, give you a disability payment that will go on and on. Keep after them. If it continues to get worse, you’ll will end up with secondary injuries from over compensating for it.
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:49 am
NorthernD,
I’m FULL of secondary injuries from overcompensating and letting other muscle groups or joints bear the brunt of the strain. When I lived in Southeast D.C., I had the best gangsta limp-walk of anyone there… because mine was real, the rest of ‘em was just young wannabe-thugs tryin to strut, lol. One day a black chick on the playground where I played basketball said somethin to the effect of “Damn, that white boy got a pimp walk… work it, white boy.” My best friend Hassan laughed his mortal ASS off because he knew that I walked that way because of my knee, not trying to be cool.
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:37 am
# La Milicia Negra Says:
May 2nd, 2010 at 6:42 pm
—”Raiders signed CB Joey Thomas, formerly of the Dolphins. Thomas, 29, has bounced around since being drafted in the third round by the Mike Sherman regime in Green Bay. He’s a practice body for minicamps”—
—”Raiders signed TE John Owens, formerly of the Seahawks. The move was actually made just prior to Oakland’s first pre-draft minicamp. Owens, 30, is a blocking tight end and veteran of nine NFL seasons”—
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Owens might be our FB and Thomas might be on ST later this year…
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:58 am
Nnamdi, Warren, Woodsen and the Myth of the Vanilla D
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
May 3rd, 2010 at 5:45 am
Morning Nation!
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:08 am
good morning AM crew!
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:13 am
Kinda quiet right now RRS….
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:15 am
glad Cable is butting out!
Hue Jackson is demanding more from this offense. dropped passes, fumbles and errant throws will not be excused.
still reading that Russell is overthrowing, then throwing at his target’s feet on occasion.
Jerry Mac’s overall assessment to date is that he’s been “ok” which is still better than last year, but really not that impressive. If he’s not one of the Top 2 QB’s after OTA’s, training camp & preseason – cut him. I don’t want a $9.5 million 3rd stringer
Also, if Kyle Boller is the only guy who knows Hue Jackson’s offense, why isn’t he head & shoulders above the other QB’s?
kid must be just like JaMarcus. doesn’t “get it”
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:22 am
Yep jaskittle had plenty of time and he didnt want it.Others do.Cut out the cancer….CUT jaskittle
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:24 am
– Not sure who the Raiders fullback is going to be in Week 1, but there’s a very real possibility that it’s not someone who is currently on the roster.
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go get Brad Hoover!
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:24 am
Good morning all!
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:24 am
I mean is ineptitude might have ruined JLH,and I love JLH!
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:25 am
Hey Neilb!!!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:25 am
Been a while 4eva,how ya doing?
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:25 am
Jason, Bruce & Charlie. in that order
protect the football!
Russell & Boller = 1st round busts
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:26 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,4EVA,ROCKSTAR.
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:27 am
nothing ruined JLH.
Higgins is a player. get him the football!
Ford is the new return man. Higgins is our 3rd WR
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:27 am
Morning Dirt-lot!
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:27 am
Will Jacoby Ford spell the end of JLH.
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:28 am
What was wrong with Justin Miller?
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:28 am
Well it could be worse Neilb….but still hanging in there
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:28 am
Jacoby Ford spells the end of Nick Miller & Todd Watkins.
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:29 am
Good 2C you Dirt-Lot!
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:30 am
Good to hear 4eva.
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:30 am
go get Muhsin Muhammad.
MOOSE!
we need a vet mentor.
Sanjay Lal can’t teach these youngsters how to p1ss standing up …
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:30 am
RRS….
Vs. the steAlers,Watkins made a nice catch on a 3rd and 12,I believe.Watkins is a tall lanky type with long arms.A good 3rd down weapon,imo
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:31 am
Richard Seymour should be our premier DT or interior defender.
I would be surprised -and angry- if he does not play inside most of the time.
I’ve said it before, Seymour is a natural DT, he played there in college and made his first Pro Bowl with NE as a DT before they switched to the 3-4, but even as DE in the 3-4, his role was pretty much that of a DT in a 4-3.
Here’s an article from a year ago, Seymour had not been traded to the Raiders yet.
“Pat Kirwan: Ranking the game’s top DT’s:
The defensive tackles in a 4-3 scheme are asked to attack gaps and be disruptive in the backfield.
The defensive ends in a 3-4 defense, who essentially play the same role as tackles, are asked to stop the charge of 350-pound offensive tackles and make plays at the line of scrimmage.
Of course, ranking the top tackles is problematic.
A 4-3 penetrator such as Tommie Harris of the Bears is asked to do different things than a player such as RICHARD SEYMOUR of the Patriots — who is listed as a defensive end in a 3-4 but plays the role of a tackle.
The same is true of a nose tackle such as San Diego’s Jamal Williams, who is asked to eat up double teams all game long.
To rank the top six tackles is very difficult, but when looking at who are the best at what they are asked to do, while also considering the different schemes, it becomes a manageable task.
#4. Richard Seymour, New England Patriots:
Seymour had a down year last year as he battled injuries, but it was just two years ago he was the No. 1 defensive tackle on this list.
He can play any defensive line spot, including a 4-3 right end or even a 3-4 nose tackle. Patriots coach Bill Belichick can scheme any way he wants with Seymour. Versatility and an all-around game are his big strengths.”
- Seymour should handle the majority of the snaps at one of the DT spots for us, he’s either too fast or too strong for most inside OL, but he should also kick outside sometimes, we can’t waste his versatility.
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:31 am
And You Neilb?
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:32 am
When we traded up in the fourth who here thought it would be Cam Thomas?
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:32 am
is Dick Seymour the highest paid defensive player in the NFL yet ???
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:33 am
When we traded up in the fourth who here thought it would be Cam Thomas?
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wishful thinking …
I wanted it to be Thomas as well!
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:33 am
Mike Waufle’s addition can’t be underestimated, the guy knows his stuff.
Here are some of his concepts from a scouting form called the “Winning Edge” which they give to each of their players during game week:
- “Breaking down the Quarterback:
In the NFL, no other position is more important than the one calling the signals. We all know that the success of a team rises and falls on the QB – especially at that level.
Waufle knows this, so he spends extra time preparing his defensive linemen for the type of personality they will see behind center each week.
“The QB is the head of the snake,” says Waufle.
“Preparing for the QB goes under coached at a lot of levels … It’s always our first priority when going into a game.”
The first thing Waufle does is examine the depth of the QB on passes, or more specifically, his launch point.
Unlike college, many professional QB’s are pocket types that don’t like to get out of the pocket much. But that doesn’t mean Waufle doesn’t prepare for it.
On the “Winning Edge” form he’ll label what he calls QB escape points based on where he exits when pressure approaches. It helps players to prepare when they get him on the run and used mainly to track the angle of departure for the QB.
“It’s important that guys know where a QB’s exit strategy is going to be. There are some guys that scramble so we try to find out where. If Michael Strahan is chasing a QB that always scrambles to his side, he’s going to get a lot of depth on his pass rush. So that when the QB starts to run, he’ll change his angle to match up his depth.
There are great rushers that run right over the top of the QB and they run right by him because they don’t take proper angles to affect him. Osi (Umenyiora) does it because he’s extremely quick. If you’re playing a Donovan McNabb you have to control your rush and balance your rush lanes. You need to know where his escape area is either inside or outside.”
- Determining Pass Protection
According to Waufle, this relies either on the drop of the QB or the personnel in the game offensively.
“I figure out what the QB set target is per down, or where he sets,” said Waufle. “Most are at seven yards but some are different, including the shotgun formations. We control our blitz lanes and rush targets based on that.”
The type of protection will almost always be based on how many eligible receivers an offense will deploy.
“We zero in on personnel groups to identify what they are doing,” says Waufle. “For example, if you take each personnel group with two backs whether it be two backs and two tight ends, two backs and one tight end or two backs and no tight ends there is only a certain way they will protect. Chances are those backs will be involved in the protection scheme. Now, anytime there is one back it can really be two formations – a two by two receiver set or a three by one receiver set. Rarely does anyone go empty in this league; the QB would get killed. Who releases and who stays in is based on whether it is a two by two or a three by one.”
Waufle also will play a lot of games with his interior tackles to confuse the center. In most slide protection schemes the center will find the Mike, or middle linebacker in a 4-3 scheme, and set the protection to slide in that direction. A lot of teams will stem or move their front so that the center doesn’t get a clear identification. “If you just cover the guards once in a while, they just can’t figure out where to set the protection,” said Waufle.
“I also like to get those quicker defensive ends in space by widening them out. Put them in situations where they can try to handle us. We are better athletes.”
- Evaluating the Running Back
“The alignment and the depth of the back are important. When he’s deep at eight yards, you want to re-establish the line of scrimmage by using various one man or two man games. You got the time to do it. If he’s shallow in there at six, I also want them to know that because a lot of teams will do that in the pass game for protection purposes. If that back is involved in the protection, they want him at or near the line of scrimmage in a hurry. They don’t want to waste any time by getting those defensive lineman downhill.”
Because of those gap schemes where offensive linemen are often pulling at the point of attack, Waufle will have his guys examine the stance of their offensive lineman.
“One of the biggest things I look for in the run game is the offensive line either backing off the line of scrimmage and their hand placement.” says Waufle.
- Finding mismatches in the trenches
Probably the most important aspect of the preparation process is finding and exploiting mismatches up front.
In fact, the entire back sheet of “The Winning Edge” form is devoted to a precise breakdown of each of the starting offensive linemen they will be facing that week.
It details their strengths and weaknesses, giving the players a “how to” manual on getting to the QB.
“It provides immediate feedback for the players and their assignments,” said Waufle. “It’s a confidence builder and a security blanket that you can fall back on. This is the ultimate study tool. I walk out of the locker room and you won’t believe the number of players who are reading this stuff. They will ask me in the middle of practice and I just hand it to them. It’s on the sidelines with us all the time.”
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:33 am
I’m doing fine 4eva,thanks for asking.Day off today.Do Americans do anything for May Day ?
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:34 am
U 2 4EVA,BEEN AWHILE,NEILB,I SAY NAME A STARTER,NAME A BACK-UP AND GO FROM TERE.
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:35 am
Neilb….I always burn 1 for May Day!
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:36 am
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:37 am
oh yeah. it’s May already!
where’s Raider O?
have the Ohio buckeyes started blooming yet???
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:39 am
Didn’t Johnny Utah play for the buckeyes?
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:39 am
Neilb….
What does May-Day mean across the pond?
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:41 am
did anybody celebrate Arbor Day???
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:41 am
We get a bank holiday/national holiday on the first Monday in May.
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:42 am
plant a tree so Richard Seymour can practice spin moves & bull rushes on it!
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:42 am
the Tree People do RRS !
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:45 am
May Day has been a traditional day of festivities throughout the centuries. With Christianity came agricultural feasts such as Plough Sunday (the first Sunday in January), Rogationtide, Harvest Festival and May Day. It is most associated with towns and villages celebrating Springtime fertility and revelry with village fetes and community gatherings. Since May 1st is the Feast of St Philip & St James, they became the patron saints of workers. Seeding has been completed by this date and it was convenient to give farm labourers a day off. Perhaps the most significant of the traditions is the Maypole, around which participants dance whilst grasping the ends of long colorful streamers or ribbons extending from the Maypole itself.
From Wikipedia.
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:46 am
the Tree People do
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4eva: the Na’vi ???
trade the walrus for James Cameron’s man purse!
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:47 am
Sounds like a GREAT time Neilb
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:48 am
Ummm….sure RRS!!!!!!!!!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:49 am
It does doesn’t it.
I haven’t seen anything like that since I was a child.Might still happen in the more rural villages and towns.
For most people it’s just a day off.
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:50 am
Good morning Nation!!
Saw that OTL piece on Russell, and what a shame. A nanny that waits at the hotel to make sure he gets on the team bus? WTF??? So what, if you don’t watch him he won’t even show up to work?
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:51 am
I like the idea of planting a tree though.Silvanus would be pleased.
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:51 am
Are you going 2 go 2 a rural village today Neilb?
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:52 am
i live in a rural village …
Podunk, baby!
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:52 am
nothing suprises me with #2 anymore Vegas
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:53 am
We’re all coming to your house in Podunk then RRS!!!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:54 am
Nope,just taking it easy today.Spending it with family.
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:54 am
4evaRaider Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:52 am
nothing suprises me with #2 anymore Vegas
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I know one thing that would surprise us both 4eva…. a 300 yard, 3 TD performance on any given Sunday.
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:54 am
Silvanus (pronounced sihl-VANN-us [2]), the Forest Father, is the god of nature, though formerly considered only the god of wild nature and druids. Silvanus is one of the oldest and most prominent deities in Faerûn, and the wilder counterpart to Chauntea the Earthmother. His worshipers protect places of nature from the encroachment of civilization with vigor and are implacable foes of industrious peoples
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:55 am
Rockstar…
Hope you’re dancing round the Maypole then!
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:55 am
Now THAT would REALLY suprise me Vegas
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:56 am
you guys don’t need to go to a rural village to celebrate Christianity. come to Podunk!
I got some turkey in the freezer. I’ll just thaw it, wrap it in bacon, season it with Kicken Chicken spice and throw them bird peices on the grill.
fire it up. I got plenty of lawn chairs
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:57 am
“Ware had the prettiest interception of the minicamp when he stayed with Jacoby Ford on a post then out-raced him to a deep pass by Charlie Frye.”
So… you’re saying that Ware outraced the fastest guy at this year’s combine?
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:58 am
Guess I’m still a bit pagan at heart.
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:58 am
Good morning. Is JLH still ruined?
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:59 am
Hope you’re dancing round the Maypole then
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Neil: not big on dancing
-danced at my senior prom
-danced on a cruise ship with my ex-fiance
since then? NADA
don’t even have to dance at my sister’s wedding later this month. woohoo! wife is pregnant (first trimester)
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:59 am
I’ll bring the beer Rockstar,although it might be warm by the time I get there.
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:00 am
4evaRaider Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:24 am
I mean is ineptitude might have ruined JLH,and I love JLH
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4 all 2C….I said MIGHT
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:00 am
I’d only dance if I was on fire.
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:00 am
Is JLH still ruined?
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BSJ: you shall pay for your ignorance!
i’m sending Eddie Anderson out your way …
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:02 am
I’ll bring the sticky RRS….hot or cold,eees always good!
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:02 am
Eddie is who told me he was ruined!
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:03 am
Never mind Eddie,send Dmac that will drive him nuts!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:03 am
LMAO @ Neilb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thats a goood 1 Neilb!
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:05 am
McFadden is busy looking like the best offensive player we got.
Eddie Anderson is trying to keep Russell from gaining 30 pounds before preseason!
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:07 am
I’m a dancing fool. That’s where I met my wife, on the dance floor at the Bank nightclub in the Bellagio.
No easier way to pick up chicks than on the dance floor.
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:09 am
I’m a dancing fooool
RIP Mr.Zappa
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:20 am
hello?
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:22 am
I guess we killed it, lol.
So Michael Bennett may shock us all and show how inept Darren and Bush can be at times.
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:25 am
A nanny that waits at the hotel to make sure he gets on the team bus? WTF???
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So you ignored John Ritchie’s disclaimer of he’s not in the building and doesn’t know anything first hand? Also, the disclaimer that these are only rumors, but …
LMFAO!
I’m surprised you didn’t just roll with the 12 eggs and shrimp, lol!
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:28 am
I think everyone had the mental image of both Vegas and 4eva dancing….scary stuff!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:31 am
I’d prolly step all over Vegas’ toes….I cant dance!
Yep Micheal Bennet just might be our 3rd back….and has the abilty 2 move up,imo
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:32 am
Jhill,
Ritchie is a smart guy, went to Stanford. He isn’t going to go out there on ESPN Sunday morning, without some pretty good sources.
Could they still be rumors or slight exaggerations? Of course, but they aren’t unfounded.
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:46 am
Is Jon Ritchie a reporter now? Last thing I heard was that he was a sports agent.
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:47 am
he’s everywhere lol!
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:53 am
Does he still have a small trickle of blood running down his forehead ?
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:56 am
Yep~~~~~
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:59 am
And Dominic Rhodes, who did play there, was nodding his head agreeing the whole time they are throwing Russell under the bus.
Rhodes did say he was nodding off in meetings. And this was his rookie year with Kiffin around. I’m sure last year was more of the “horror show”
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:01 am
Maybe the other WR saw what #2 did 2 JLH and Zach Miller B4 that….Try and catch a #2 pass,and you never know where you wake up….just sayin
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:05 am
did Russell ruin Zach Miller?
no.
did Russell ruin Johnnie Lee Higgins?
no.
he ruined himself.
and if he starts this year on the Al Davis scholarship, he’ll cost Cable, Hackett & Tollner thier jobs (as predicted 15 months ago by yours truly when Cable was officially named HC of the Oakland Raiders)
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:05 am
Off for a bite.
Have a great Monday everyone.
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:06 am
I’m all for Bennett on a tryout basis to try and unseat Rock Cartwright & rookie Andre Anderson from Tulane.
may the best man win and claim that 3rd RB spot!
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:09 am
RRS I’m just saying #2 puts our WR’s in bad places ,and he’s done it more than once.He’s a detriment all the way around,imo
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:10 am
Enjoy Neilb!
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:10 am
Jerry Mac has praised Jason Campbell’s arm strength & mobility the past week.
Russell’s arm strength, Gradkowski’s mobility & Frye’s work ethic.
all 3 combined = Jason Campbell
Hue Jackson + Jason Campbell = wins imo (as long as we can stuff the run on D)
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:12 am
Did Bruce have surgery in his left peck?
If not maybe they just dont want him out there….you know how a team will shield their best QB
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:13 am
Dominick Rhodes part was interesting, as was Newberry’s.
No Andrew Walter references?
I think the REALLY sad part is how he was ALLOWED to sleep in meetings as a rookie! How they would interupt the meeting to give him a break.
That’s they type of shyt I’ve been talking about since day 1. These guys are EMPLOYEES! We FINALLY have Hue Jackson chewing some arsses out LIKE A BOSS SHOULD!
Newberry and Rhodes, being the veterand they are, should have threw a football at the back of his head HIS ROOKIE YEAR!
Oh, well … At least it appears that the days of ANYONE sleeping in meetings and giving half arss efforts are OUTTA HERE!
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:15 am
The five-man quarterback competiton officially started and anyone who doesn’t think it will be Jason Campbell is wrong.
Posted By: Vittorio Tafur (SF Gate)
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:16 am
Hue has told Eddie to beat #2 azz if he dont conduct himself in the correct manner.Get him Eddie!!!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:16 am
Maybe the other WR saw what #2 did 2 JLH and Zach Miller B4 that
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Zach Miller ????
Zach Miller in the Washington game broke 2 tackles before he was knocked the fugg out. I think it’s hilarious that some of you try and lump that in as #2’s fault.
Also, 4eva, why not mention your boy Brucie getting JLH killed AGAIN in Pittsburgh?
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:16 am
LMAO 4eva @ 315.
GarbageKowski sucks!!!! Print that!! Don’t cry Vegas.
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:17 am
Oh, well … At least it appears that the days of ANYONE sleeping in meetings and giving half arss efforts are OUTTA HERE!
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AMEN to that
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:18 am
Morning O lol!
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:18 am
Not only is Langston Walker ahead of Khalif Barnes at right tackle, but Barnes is actually practicing at guard now
rookie Bruce Campbell is practing at guard and not tackle. Cable’s thinking is that he is better off getting second-string snaps at guard than being a third-team tackle. “We need to expose him a little bit,” Cable said.
FB Manase Tonga didn’t make much of an impression. Look for the Raiders to make a move there in the next few days.
Posted By: Vittorio Tafur (SF Gate)
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:19 am
Can we just let the QB think play out on the field?
Obviously with our lack of talent at the WR position, we should be looking at Campbell as the starter because of his mobility. Chances are pretty good that Russell won’t be down to 245 or so and able execute the rollouts and pocket things the coaches HAVE to have in our playbook.
Like my man Dell says … RELAXXXXXXXXX
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:20 am
Barnes & Campbell to compete for the RG spot?
Veldheer & Henderson to compete for the LT spot?
Walker & Pears to compete for the RT spot?
Gallery & Satele are locks it appears.
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:21 am
4eva,
It’s a great Morning! Wake & Bake!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:21 am
obviously we arent thinking of the same game Jhill.The game I am reefering 2 was the year B4.Just dont remember the opponet but Zach got blasted and I think he was out a few games because the hit gave him a concussion.
Also I dont recall Bruce doing any such thing
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:23 am
Where is Dell?
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:23 am
Sounds like “Shoelace” Russell is back in mid-season form. Al needs to cut this locker room cancer, so that the team can move on. It doesnt sound like he intends to take a pay cut, probably just wants to see what the old man will do.
What a headache…
McClain sounds legit, a little bit slow, but once he adjusts to this scheme, his instincts should make-up for that.
McFadden is a baller; Walter McFadden that is. Once the RUN DMC bandwagon completely derails, we can all hop on the WMC bandwagon.
Nick Miller, shin splints
Chaz Schilens, sore foot
Very bad news that these two are still suffering from the same injuries as last season. Al likes to hang on with these injured developmental WR’s forever. We need to draft another high-round WR prospect next year or get a solid vet in FA. This WR corps continues to be a weak link of our offense. Russell’s slow development wasnt doing these guys any favor, but I just dont think the talent or durability is there.
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:23 am
Good 4U Raider O….me 2!
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:23 am
JaMarcus Russell seemed to regress each day of the Raiders minicamp. Hard to imagine Jason Campbell not starting Week 1
-Vittorio Tafur (twitter)
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:24 am
LOL that hit in Pittsburgh was illegal and gave us a 15 yard penalty.
But replying to post 174
There are hybrid teams. But you are right, every team has a base defense.
The Saints run a hybrid for an example, but are a base 4-3 Defense.
The Jets run a hybrid, but are a base 3-4 team.
The only true hydrid defense is Baltimore, but they have the personnel to run that Defense. Ray Lewis and Terrell Suggs and Kelly Gregg and Haloti Ngata make is happen.
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:24 am
Vegas,
That’s the Raider “culture” that needed to be turned around man. Like Walter said, if Russell had been drafted anywhere else, would those things have been tolerated anywhere else?
Goes back to even the Charles Woodson days, right? Notorious for acting a fool. Exactly what Gannon has been talking about how he had to fight to get guys to do this and that.
Like you said … AMEN to THAT BS finally being a non issue. That’s why I’m not trippin’ off the QB stuff one way or the other. I really believe that the best guy out of the bunch will get the job instead of it being handed to Russell, Campbell, or Grads.
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:24 am
Nick Miller, shin splints
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BBB: Nick Miller = Arman Shields
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:25 am
4eva,
LMAO
Bruce, Bruce, he is the man. If he can’t do it, no one can!!
Bruce!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:25 am
JaMarcus Russell seemed to regress each day of the Raiders minicamp.
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Sounds like a conditioning issue
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:25 am
from J.R.’s BBQ column:
“JaMarcus Russell, the Oakland Raiders drastically overpaid QB, is in voluntary camp. That might be a indirect compliment to catering and the Raiders’ buffet table. When Russell makes the commitment to lose weight and totally commit to his team then people will get off his back. I see the former LSU QB as nearing Ryan Leaf territory as it relates to draft busts. Hopefully Russell has invested well, bought less and less bling, and is planning for a future that doesn’t include the NFL. It’s all too bad as the man has many God given, athletic gifts.”
By the way, a great Raider Morning to all!!!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:26 am
Also I dont recall Bruce doing any such thing
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LOL ….
Of course you don’t.
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:27 am
RR,
Nick Miller is a DB Killer!! Get over it!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:27 am
Langston Walker “refreshed” and looking light at 365 pounds as he takes his claim at Oakland’s right tackle spot
-Vittorio Tafur (twitter)
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Congrats Jhill! thats your boy.
nice job Langston
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:28 am
Raider O….
Glad 2C you coming ’round on Bruce
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:29 am
LOL!
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:29 am
LOL that hit in Pittsburgh was illegal and gave us a 15 yard penalty.
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So the DB hit JLH in the head instead of the chest like Weddle did in the SD game?
Point is Grads put the ball on the WR, like Russell did, and the WR got knocked the fugg out, lol.
The funny part about us Raider fans is no one was actually open on either play and it was just a damn good throw by both QBs to get it in there. If the QBs would have held the ball in both situations and taken the sack, we would have killed them for that too, lol.
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:32 am
the Raiders must have dropped undrafted rookie WR Trent Guy, because he signed with the Carolina Panthers.
trade Nick Miller for Trent Guy!
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:32 am
Congrats Jhill! thats your boy.
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I won’t bother with the I told you so’s since I was wrong about Barnes. Looks like Barnes is outta here since Campbell “dropped” to us in rd 4.
And I have NO problem with Campbell at RG, and I even HOPE that Veldheer beats out Super Mario.
LT – Veldheer
LG – Gallery
C – Satele
RG – Campbell
RT – Walker
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:33 am
Man the Road Grader Walker and Bruce Campbell on the O-line is just looking 2 good 2B true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:34 am
As bad as our WRs are, I think Bruce really has a chance to stick. We need the scrambling aspect.
Our WRs SUCK !!!!!!!!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:34 am
trade Manase Tonga & Luke Lawton to the unemployment line for Lorenzo Neal and Oren O’Neal.
then sign Brad Hoover!
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:35 am
If Bush or Dmac or Bennett cant find holes through that line….I just dont know what
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:37 am
Jhill: 3 new starters on the O-Line and 2 of them are rookies?
fine by me! can’t get much worse, right?
wait. flashbacks of 2006. AHHHH!!!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:38 am
Plus Jhill….I know Bruce put up some prayers last year and they were answered,especially the one to Murphy in pittsburgh,but we need some luck as all teams do,and Bruce is lucky too,imo
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:39 am
Exactly.
But Johnnie Lee Higgins has bad traits as a WR after hits like that. I remember Jerry Rice playing for us, he got sandwiched by a LB and a Safety on a play and got knocked out, he came back a few minutes later and caught a first down.
A Wide Receivers job is to get open and make catches period. Johnnie Lee Higgins hears footsteps and probably has nightmares because of that. No joke.
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:40 am
As bad as our WRs are, I think Bruce really has a chance to stick. We need the scrambling aspect.
Our WRs SUCK !!!!!!!!!
who is a better free agent wr then T.O right now cuz our fake #81 is to fragile cut chaz now or after T.O shows he wants to play wit us
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:40 am
It will be:
Henderson-Bob-Satele-Barnes-Walker week 1 but I think Adonis Campbell might get a few starts this year at RG.
Valdheer seems like strickly a LT, so we shall see if he gets on the field much. That will depend on Mario.
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:40 am
finally got some roadgraders on the O-line, I love it>
Veldheer(315) Gallery(320) Satele(300) Campbell(315) Walker (365).
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:43 am
Having J.Russell in camp is so foolish!
Bottome line is Campbell should be and def is the best qb on the team. He needs to be taking all the first team reps, throwing all the routes to the starting receivers, and building chemistry with the first string offensive unit. PERIOD!
From this point on..it should be Campbell’s team. Having him split reps with that fat lazy POS is a frikn joke.
Just when you think Al has gained some sense of sanity, he turns around and has the best QB splitting reps. What?
This is just too much. I’ve had it!
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:43 am
one of these wr has to go not the second yr guys chaz jlh watkins some one
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:45 am
Jamarcus Russell sucks and loses because of his work ethic and his heart isn’t in it.
Bruce Gradkowski sucks, BUT he won those games through heart. He was trying to make things happen. While we are not 100% sure if he would’ve taken this team to the playoffs last year (our team had more issues than just quarterback), he did show us what a difference a quarterback with a work ethic can give us.
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:46 am
4eva,
I need to check myself on bit a Bruce because TRULY I am not rooting against him. I’ve had him penciled in as the #2 guy no matter who we have as the starter.
I really don’t care who the QB ends up being.
The most exciting part of ALL of this to me is what I was saying earlier. It seems like the place is being run like it should be and the days of sleeping in meetings or having things handed to you are OVER!
I really think that the best players are going to be on the field.
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:47 am
I must admit,it was starting to look like Barnes was not gonna be happy unless he was at LT
But then Jhills boy,Road-Grader Walker showed he just wanted on the field….CB LB LG hell it didnt matter 2 he Road-Grader,he just wants it,and his vetern Leadership will show this year,imo
Anyway not a peep from Barnes because of where he’s playing…..
Langston Walker pays-off in many needed ways,imo!
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:49 am
cuz these guys have no advice for DHB or murphy to improve so f**k them
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:49 am
You guys should check out the stuff on Raiders.com now.
Nnamdi was talking about the competition at every position now and “especially” at the QB position. He said having someone there who actually is as good as you are makes all the difference in the world as far as being “lackadaisical”.
Cable’s PCs are on there too and a lot of player interviews.
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:51 am
How many WRs are we going to have on our roster? 5 or 6?
1- Chaz
2- Murphy
3- DHB
4- Ford as a KR/ PR
——————- we know that
5/6: JLH, Watkins, Hubbard, and Miller.
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:53 am
Nnamdi dislikes Jamarcus Russell
If you guys want to see a Jamarcus Bashing go look at the Raiders Report on NFL.com
Warren Sapp and Rod Woodson bash the heck out of Russell.
While Nnamdi plays politician and just sits back and grins.
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:54 am
83: I’ll take vet WR Muhsin Muhammad instead of Terrell Owens
thanks bro!
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:54 am
But then Jhills boy,Road-Grader Walker showed he just wanted on the field….CB LB LG hell it didnt matter 2 he Road-Grader,he just wants it,and his vetern Leadership will show this year,imo
two words that should be on the older guys locker the words are vetran leadership
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:54 am
I hear ya Jhill….
I also want nothing more than for the TRUE starter 2 start.And I we just have a different view of who the QB will be!
Whoever wins this QB compitition,we wont have a big drop off of talent,ie #2,.Both BG and JC will make eachother better
I know !!!!
I know!!!!
I am SOO STOKED
No More stooopid shizzzitt
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:56 am
I think we gotta carry six WR’s, just because we brought so many into camp, and the injury issues have really piled up the last few years. Sounds like Watkins and maybe Holland have a chance to sneak on the roster this year.
1. Schilens-lock
2. Murphy-lock
3. DHB-lock
4. Jacoby Ford-probable
5. Watkins-impressive so far
6. Holland, Miller, Hubbard, JLH
JLH is in some serious trouble this year, he is a playmaker, but just seems to disappear most of the season. Has not been the same since he got speared. His only saving grace is that he just needs to beat out some scrubs for that 6th spot.
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:56 am
I can see Gradkowski and Jason Campbell being #1 and #2 in whatever order that wins.
I predict Jason Campbell wins it, but if Campbell struggles, HERE COMES THE POLISH POP GUN!!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:58 am
I think Yamon Figurs is a sleeper that everyone forgets about.
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:59 am
Jason Campbell should be the leader in the clubhouse to be the starter, but who knows.
I know people get mad when I am critical of him, but don’t set yourself up to be disappointed by wanting him to be a Pro Bowl level player. While his stats have gotten marginally better over his years, after 5 years he is still a guy who has as many turnovers as TD’s year in and year out.
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:59 am
83: I’ll take vet WR Muhsin Muhammad instead of Terrell Owens
thanks bro!
what muhammad sucks since the car superbowl and might b a good guy but T.O with a good to average QB can do his thing here just load contract wit insentives
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:00 am
How many WRs are we going to have on our roster? 5 or 6?
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Raider O:
Schilens
Higgins
Heyward-Bey
Murphy
Ford
Muhsin Muhammad*
Moose & Ford is a huge upgrade from Walker & Watkins last year … there are your 6 WR’s
Nick Miller is a scrub, just like Bodiford, Hubbard, Figurs & Holland!
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:05 am
campbell to T.O sounds good campbell to muhammad sounds suspect
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:06 am
83: Muhsin Muhammad (at 35 years old) caight 53 balls last year for 581 yards playing second fiddle to Steve Smith with some atrocious QB play from Jake Delhomme.
did any WR’s in Oakland top those #’s ???
Moose dropped 4 balls last year. Owens dropped 10!
I don’t want Owens anywhere near DHB. thanks man
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:10 am
RaiderRockstar if T.O was here last yr russel would be out the door already so screw muhammad
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:10 am
83: if Terrell Owens was still capable of being a #1 WR someplace, don’t you think he would be signed by now?
SF: no thanks
Philly: no thanks
Dallas: no thanks
Buffalo: no thanks
free agency (thus far): no thanks
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:12 am
if T.O was here last yr russel would be out the door already
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please explain.
SF kept Garcia
Philly kept McNabb
Dallas kept Romo
Buffalo kept Edwards/Fitzpatrick
Owens didn’t cause any QB’s to lose thier jobs with his mouth. He cost himself a job at each stop.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:13 am
one player on each team has to say something not like these weenies awww jr just gets a bad break thats true BS T.O would have said QB play and work needs to improve
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:15 am
not like these weenies awww jr just gets a bad break thats true BS
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Jhill, Debo, Priest: you guys listening ???
haha
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:16 am
83: if Terrell Owens was still capable of being a #1 WR someplace, don’t you think he would be signed by now?
not num 1 just show new guys how to b pro bowl ready did u forget he is a true pro bowl WR not last yr cuz buf was as bad as us last yr
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:18 am
so rockstar u r a russsell supporter
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:19 am
T.O would have said QB play and work needs to improve
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why does that responsibility fall on the players?
Tom Cable has already said that to THE MEDIA.
even JaFranchise has said he needs to improve.
every media outlet on the planet has said as much.
has that swayed Al Davis? no.
so signing Terrell Owens would change everything? no.
T.O. in Oakland just means another washed up loud mouthed turd in the locker room that takes playing time away from the youngsters aka “the future of this team” with his demands for the ball and criticism for the coaches & organization (not just his QB’s)
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:20 am
say it aint so
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:21 am
RR,
I dont know about Muhsin. I thought he was done 4 years ago! I rather have another vet, but not QB Killer TO.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:21 am
u r a russsell supporter
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LOL!
83: nope. furthest thing from it
I don’t want JaWalrus or Turd Owens anywhere near this team.
Campbell/Gradkowski/Frye at QB
Moose as the vet WR
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:23 am
look what we say about al the org russell sadi it wasnt his fault in an interview and then smiled like he didnt care
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:23 am
Raider O:
sign Moose!
keep my business at BOO!
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:23 am
Is Derrick Mason still out there?
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:25 am
Who are you kidding?!!!
When T.O. makes the Pro Bowl….he STILL ultimately wears out his welcome with a team? Hasn’t stuck ANYWHERE for more than a few years and is shown the door BECAUSE HE IS NOT A TEAM PLAYER.
Oh, Boy, I sure can see him push Russell……AT a Presser (faking emotion), “Y’all bashin’ JR! He’s my quarterback!”. Next game, he’s screaming at JR on the sideline because JR went 12 of 16 to other receivers and the team won a squeaker….but only one pass to T.O. who was blanketed by an exceptional CB.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:25 am
thats why the bears dont want him back right
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:25 am
What is new? I see Russell came back to reality, and isn’t even getting many snaps….writing is on the wall…
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:26 am
Oneal cut….bummer…I hope we conjure up a true FB this season…if we want to win we need to be a run first team, so we need a fuking real FB!
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:27 am
Chaz, Darrious, Louis, and Johnny are the starters. Could use a vet WR, but we do not need a starter.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:27 am
Mason would be waay better than TO
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:27 am
or even carolina why is the great moose still out there
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:28 am
Is Derrick Mason still out there?
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re-signed with the Ravens
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:29 am
#394
Bingo, RNO!
My Reno neighbor is on the ball!!!!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:29 am
4eva hes a raven still
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:30 am
Dakota, we have 3 FBs on the roster right now.
Cartwright, Tonga, Moline, lets hope one of these guys step up. Oneal was still hurt and might not be right until next year.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:30 am
why is the great moose still out there
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he turns 37 years old on Wednesday
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:30 am
Chaz and Nick Miller can’t be depended on…DHB still can’t catch…we need WRs!!!!!!!!!!
Desperate times = T.O.!!!!!!
I was on the “Say no to T.O.” bandwagon last year because I thought he would kill Russell’s psyche…well, Russell is a goner, so fuk it…sign T.O.
At least it would give us a reason to watch next season…
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:31 am
Raider O,
hey, read over the weekend that it is now possible in Iran to throw any woman into prison if she has a suntan.
no word if this new law comes from the same source(s) as “earthquakes are caused by scantily-clad women”.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 am
Thanks Rockstar, did not know that Mason sighed with the Ravens. A 37 year old WR might be just what the Raiders need.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 am
#1 Reason for hope? = “Coach Tom Cable, a roll-up-your-sleeves and do-it-yourself type, has taken a step back.
Offensive coordinator Hue Jackson is running the offense, John Marshall the defense. Line coach Jim Michalczik, who became a spectator at times last year as Cable jumped in as the unit struggled, was the main voice in that unit.”
The less power Cable has, the better.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 am
Chaz, Darrious, Louis, and Johnny are the starters. Could use a vet WR, but we do not need a starter.
whats the point of a vet whose on the bench thats a waist the vet dosent have to be #1 but just contribute
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 am
we have 3 FBs on the roster right now.
Cartwright, Tonga, Moline, lets hope one of these guys step up.
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RNO: I thought we had 4 FB’s ???
Lawton, Reece, Tonga & Moline
Cartwright & Anderson (rookie from Tulane) are competing for the 3rd RB spot and Michael Bennett was here on a tryout basis only – no word yet on whether or not he’s been signed
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:33 am
Don’t need the ‘tude.
T.O. isn’t out to help anyone buy T.O.
Ever see him coaching up other receivers on the sideline? Ever?
Prancin’, screamin’ and muggin’ for the camera is all………………..
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:33 am
That was meant to be, “but T.O.”
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:34 am
I would also welcome T.O, but which WR is not going to play because he is on the field? If the Raiders sign a starting WR then the core of young guys they have will suffer. Is there one of the starting 4 I mentioned above that we are ready to give up on?
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:35 am
we have 3 FBs on the roster right now.
Cartwright, Tonga, Moline, lets hope one of these guys step up.
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I hope so too, but I don’t get as fired up as most over URFAs. And I don’t believe Cartwright is a true blocking FB…more of a Gary Russell type imo…he is a kick returner for crying out loud.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:36 am
get your popcorn ready
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:36 am
got to go…later!
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:36 am
vet free agent WR’s :
Terrell Owens
Kevin Curtis
Marty Booker
Laveranues Coles
Muhsin Muhammad
Josh Reed
Kelley Washington
I choose Moose. he can mentor the youngsters. still has some gas left in the tank and won’t demand playing time!
he’s a possession WR (something this team sorely lacks – especially without Chaz Schilens healthy)
move the chains. sign Moose!
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:36 am
Testing
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:36 am
Rockstar, are you considering Reese or Lawton as true blocking FBs? I don’t. I thought that Cartwright was signed to try out for FB, my bad.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:39 am
Marty Booker is still available. He hasn’t done much the past two seasons (30 catches total), although he had one 6 catch game last year when actually used a lot, so there’s something in the tank. He’s also not that old, maybe 30 or 31? I’ve never heard anything bad about him attitude wise, so he could be a good veteran presence to act as the #4 and to mentor the kids.
If not Marty, there’s the veteran named Javon Walker that doesn’t seem to have a contract. I seem to recall him as being a really good WR not that long ago . . .
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:41 am
Flippin Computer gave me the black screen. Did I miss anything good?
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:42 am
you considering Reese or Lawton as true blocking FBs? I don’t.
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RNO: Lawton, Reece, Tonga & Moline = all scrubs imo
I wanted John Connor. remember?
then when we decided to take the undrafted free agent route I wanted Rashawn Jackson, but the Panthers scooped him up.
now I hope we sign Brad Hoover in free agency. If we get desperate go after Justin Griffith or B.J. Askew
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:42 am
Can’t see us bringing in anyone old, no matter what the position.
WR position is set. DHB and Murphy will get every chance to fall on their face, as will Chaz and Nick Miller. Let’s just hope Jacoby Ford can hold on to the ball becasue he will get some action with the certain injuries to Chaz and Miller.
Which is why I just say fugg it…. Run, run, and run again. Go with Campbell or Bruce because of the mobility factor, and gawd damn it play some defense!
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:43 am
fragile chaz i was a big fan but its always something chaz should b #4 not #1
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:43 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:36 am
vet free agent WR’s :
Terrell Owens
Kevin Curtis
Marty Booker
Laveranues Coles
Muhsin Muhammad
Josh Reed
Kelley Washington
I choose Moose. he can mentor the youngsters. still has some gas left in the tank and won’t demand playing time!
he’s a possession WR (something this team sorely lacks – especially without Chaz Schilens healthy)
move the chains. sign Moose!
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I agree, our WRs need a mentor not a challenger to their starting position.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:44 am
M,
I can’t post about that. Sssshhhhhh
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:44 am
If T.O.’s price range drops low enough and Schilens or Murphy gets hurt again, I would be happy to bring him in.
On the condition that he understood that he would not be a starter unless there was an injury.
Raiders need WR help.
Murphy can be a starter in the NFL if he can remain healthy. He is the only WR on the roster who is worthy of starting.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:45 am
I’d rather have T.O.
Honestly we can have an offense this year. A WR that takes up double teams will help us.
If we had Randy Moss this year we could’ve been better.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:45 am
Did that traitor KoolKell return yet?
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:46 am
Rockstar, Griffen would be a nice pick up. Would he come back? I don’t know the terms of his release a few years back. My inlaws are morman and follow BYU football. I watched this kid Tonga a lot and I think he could be something.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:46 am
Justin Griffith isnt a bad player he is good on the catch pass run
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:46 am
Jhill, Debo, Priest: you guys listening ???
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Are you really that upset that I was right about your boy Morrison?
And that your boy JLH is on his way out?
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:47 am
A cowboy named Bud was overseeing his herd, in a remote mountainous pasture in California, when suddenly a brand-new BMW advanced toward him out of a cloud of dust.
The driver, a young man in a Brioni suit, Gucci shoes, RayBan sunglasses and YSL tie, leaned out the window and asked the cowboy, “If I tell you exactly how many cows and calves you have in your herd, Will you give me a calf?”
Bud looks at the man, obviously a yuppie, then looks at his peacefully grazing herd, and calmly answers, “Sure, Why not?”
The yuppie parks his car, whips out his Dell notebook computer, connects it to his RAZR V3 cell phone, and surfs to a NASA page on the Internet, where he calls up a GPS satellite to get an exact fix on his location, which he then feeds to another NASA satellite, that scans the area in an ultra-high-resolution photo.
The young man then opens the digital photo in Adobe Photoshop and exports it to an image processing facility in Hamburg , Germany ..
Within seconds, he receives an email on his Palm Pilot that the image has been processed and the data stored. He then accesses an MS-SQL database through an ODBC connected Excel spreadsheet with email, on his Blackberry and, after a few minutes, receives his response.
Finally, he prints out a full-color, 150-page report on his hi-tech, miniaturized HP LaserJet printer, turns to the cowboy and says, “You have exactly 1,586 cows and calves..”
“That’s right. Well, I guess you can take one of my calves,” says Bud.
He watches the young man select one of the animals and looks on with amusement as the young man stuffs it into the trunk of his car.
Then Bud says to the young man, “Hey, if I can tell you exactly what your business is, will you give me back my calf?”
The young man thinks about it for a second and then says, “Okay, why not?”
“You’re a Congressman for the U.S. Government”, says Bud.
“Wow! That’s correct,” says the yuppie, “but how did you guess that?”
“No guessing required.” answered the cowboy. “You showed up here even though nobody called you; you want to get paid for an answer I already knew, to a question I never asked. You used millions of dollars worth of equipment trying to show me how much smarter than me you are; and you don’t know a thing about how working people make a living – or about cows, for that matter. This is a herd of sheep. ……
Now give me back my dog.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:48 am
But in all seriousness, if Chaz Schilens can stay healthy he can be our possession receiver and is still young enough to stretch the field.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:48 am
I would keep Tonga for a true blocker and Reese as a hybrid H back, work him like Chris Cooley in DC, Campbell would like that.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:49 am
Bring in T.O. and throw him the damn ball!
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:49 am
Somebody tell MB that FoxNews has already been exposed for trying to frame the oil spill as “Obama’s Katrina”. Well, actually, don’t tell him. Let him think we actually believe he’s expressing his own ideas. lol.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:49 am
I actually hope to see Bush and McFadden in the backfield together, and more 2 TE sets. Not too concerned about FB. Throw a LB or something in there at the goalline, lol.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:50 am
Which is why I just say fugg it…. Run, run, and run again. Go with Campbell or Bruce because of the mobility factor, and gawd damn it play some defense!
play deffense keep the d off the field for a while
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:51 am
#430, LMFAO!
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:52 am
LMFAO RR!!!!!!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:52 am
Jhill:
83 called you a “weenie” for your stance on JaMarcus
Debo & Priest also use the “awww jr just gets a bad break” line
don’t turn this back on me. and don’t hate on my boy Johnnie Lee!
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:53 am
LaMarr Houston for goal-line RB!!!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:53 am
place the blame where it should be on the offense for leading the league in three and outs
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:53 am
True Jhill, If Bush had to block he can be prety good at it. Should run the Wildcat with Bush, Mcfadden and Ford. can have Murphy out wide.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:54 am
more 2 TE sets. Not too concerned about FB.
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Jhill: after harping on Zach Miller’s blocking ability you want to run the ball behind him with no fullback on the field ???
LOL!
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:55 am
Remember Bush has played a little QB in his time.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:56 am
YOU YUPPIES:
do not hate on my boy JLH!
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:57 am
RaiderRockstar if thats really yo boy tell him to see a shrink to tell his nightmares to they just hit so hard in the NFL (crying) JLH says to the shrink hold me
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:57 am
In some 2 TE sets we could use Myers and B. Campbell at TE. Give Miller a rest, with our WRs so young he is going to be doing work and might need a breather now and then.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:58 am
Pears was effective as a 2nd TE.vs donkeys….
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:59 am
or was he a Tackle eligible?
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:00 am
rr u know nothing about WR at all JLH
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:00 am
Jhill: for the last time (since you still don’t “get it” like your boy JaMarcus)
are the Jags going to rank 29th overall in run defense because they traded for Kirk Morrison?
are the Raiders going to rank Top 10-15 overall in run defense because they drafted Rolando McClain?
NO!
Kelly & Bryant can play NT? LOL!
can’t wait to see the explanation from Cable when Ryan Mathews gashes us for 150 yards & 3 TD’s
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:00 am
The problem with run, run, and run again is that one dimensional teams don’t succeed in the NFL. We’ve seen enough of that in the past years. There were times when it looked like the opposing Ds leapfrogged 8 and 9 in the box and started going with 12! No legit passing threat absolutely kills the run game.
But that’s what the vertical attack is supposed to be all about. Run until they cheat and then catch them with their pants down. Of course that means having a QB that can throw the deep ball with semblance of accuracy and WRs that can actually catch the ball when it gets there.
The other flaw with run, run, run is that it falls on it’s face when the team needs to play come from behind football.
Last point is that the Raiders actually do have that possession guy — possession by committee that is. Miller and Myers both have very good hands from the TE spot and DMac has solid hands out of the backfield as well. I wouldn’t be shocked if they started using one or both of Miller and DMac as shifted slot WRs to mix things up.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:00 am
Jhill: after harping on Zach Miller’s blocking ability you want to run the ball behind him with no fullback on the field ???
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No, I’d run to Meyer’s side, or move Meyer’s in motion to Miller’s side to help out. Plus it seems like Miller is going to have big Langston helping him out too!
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:02 am
Jumbo Package for the Raiders.
WR Shillins
TE Campbell
OT Henderson
OG Gallery
C ? Need a mauler here not currently on the roster.
OG Velheer
OT Barnes
TE Myers
FB Tonga
RB Bush
QB who really gives a uk in this package?
RUN IT DOWN THEIR NECKS!
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:03 am
u know nothing about WR at all
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83: I never said I did!
Higgins was our best WR in ‘08 and he got much better last year after Russell was benched. those are FACTS
what do you have? opinions? i’ll pass
thanks bro
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:04 am
Aw damn! I forgot about big old Langston! He would be there at OG with Gallery.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:04 am
No, I’d run to Meyer’s side
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Jhill: isn’t that rather predictable to run 2 TE sets with runs going to Myers side every time ???
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:04 am
if the moose is a flop then what a 37YR old POS T.O wants to prove he is a better player and we have no footage of him bad mouthing the bills do u
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:04 am
Zymerg, the vertical game, at least in Al’s view, is not about running to get them to cheat up. It’s about passing deep even if they’re playing the deep pass, when they know it’s coming. Al truly believes that if you have the right playas…you can stretch tha field on any play. I know, and he’s still running the team, too.
Scary.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:05 am
JLH could be a great WR if we have a QB that can hit him in his brakes in space, then its off to the races.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:06 am
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:07 am
JLH is a timing route WR. The sad thing is the Raiders don’t have any timing down.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:09 am
Morning Nation
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:10 am
The Raiders should only throw the ball 15 times a game, 20 at the most. Is WR really the most pressing need? I would say C is
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:10 am
we have no footage of him bad mouthing the bills do u
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we and you? i’m confused
Owens dropped 10 balls last year.
DHB dropped 6 & Murphy dropped 9.
why is the world would you want this clown on our team?
because he used to make pro bowls?
Moose used to make pro bowls too …
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:10 am
# RNOraiderFan Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:07 am
JLH is a timing route WR. The sad thing is the Raiders don’t have any timing down.
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Apparently you’ve never seen Russell hit the lunch line precisely at noon without fail!
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:10 am
Jhill:
83 called you a “weenie” for your stance on JaMarcus
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You call it a stance (and you are probably the last guy still running this crap) FOR Jamarcus that I thought our Oline was terrible?
It’s a stance for Jamarcus because I thought our rookie WRs who he played with and Todd Watkins were, uh, raw?
It’s stance for Jamarcus because I say our play caller was clueless?
Cornell Green, Cooper Carlisle, and Mario Henderson have effectively been put on notice. Tom Cable was fired as OC, and well, our WRs still suck, lol.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:11 am
The sad thing is the Raiders don’t have any timing down.
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ouch. sad but true
enter Hue Jackson & Jason Campbell
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:13 am
Apparently you’ve never seen Russell hit the lunch line precisely at noon without fail!
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LMFAO! So sad, so true.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:14 am
Does anyone know if that FB from USC was drafted?
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:14 am
JLH is cool…..so many trip on him on the blog. It is downright awful
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:14 am
Jhill: post # 467 flows pretty well with the “awww jr just gets a bad break” line
I didn’t say that. 83 did
if you don’t like to be called a “weenie” , then you’d better take it up with him!
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:14 am
22 catch’s in 08 19 catch’s in 09 big improvement 366yds in 08 269 in 09 fact gaypornstar
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:15 am
Rockstar, I don’t know alot about Jason Campbell, is he a timing type QB? I always thought he was more of a 5 to 7 drop back look for the open man down field type. You know the Al Davis type. I’m not knocking the guy, I think he is the best QB on our roster, I just don’t think he is that good at Timing routes.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:16 am
JLH needs to be used correctly…He should be the slot WR with Chaz and Murphy as the starters….let DHB be the 4th dammit.
JLH is quick and shifty enough to cause some hell for defenses. Again late in the season when the Raiders played him he made some damn good catches. Just give the guy a damn chance all throughout the year
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:19 am
83: i’ll assume you weren’t talking to me in post #473
if you have to result to name calling, you’ve already lost
have a great day
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:19 am
Yeah, Johnny Lee Scary is cool in the slot, but he shouldn’t be returning punts anymore.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:19 am
# RNOraiderFan Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:15 am
Rockstar, I don’t know alot about Jason Campbell, is he a timing type QB? I always thought he was more of a 5 to 7 drop back look for the open man down field type. You know the Al Davis type. I’m not knocking the guy, I think he is the best QB on our roster, I just don’t think he is that good at Timing routes.
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Campbell has shown ability to play in different styles of offense period….but Joe Gibbs got him to be a drop back big arm QB….Hey I’ll take that no problem. He has good accuracy,mobility and works hard. See Chris Cooley’s interview? Yep he talked about that guy getting back up repeatedly after getting his ass whipped…..We need a QB like that
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:20 am
Jhill: isn’t that rather predictable to run 2 TE sets with runs going to Myers side every time ???
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Yeah,
Which is why the REST of the post said ..
“or move Meyer’s in motion to Miller’s side to help out. Plus it seems like Miller is going to have big Langston helping him out too!”
Not to mention me saying having a 2 RB backfield.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:20 am
# DMAC Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:19 am
Yeah, Johnny Lee Scary is cool in the slot, but he shouldn’t be returning punts anymore.
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Yeah well you would be scared as well if Russell threw a bad pass and Eric Weddle got a free shot at ya. JLH is only 185 lbs. That shyt hurts! No lie JLH was shell-shocked for part of the season but when Grad or Frye was out there he got back to normal
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:21 am
# jhill Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:20 am
Jhill: isn’t that rather predictable to run 2 TE sets with runs going to Myers side every time ???
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Yeah,
Which is why the REST of the post said ..
“or move Meyer’s in motion to Miller’s side to help out. Plus it seems like Miller is going to have big Langston helping him out too!”
Not to mention me saying having a 2 RB backfield.
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Agree wit ya on this
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:22 am
Hey 83, All of the Raider’s WRs had stats like that. It was because of our QB and Offence ineptness. No one know which of the Raider’s WRs are any good until they get a QB and an Offence that works. If you bring in a T.O type WR we will never know. There is no Superbowl this year, lets see what we have before we start giving up on guys that just might suprize us.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:23 am
Fuk it guys….gets John Henderson here for a 2 yr contract….maybe Kellen Heard learns from him
Then sign Kevin Mawae to a one year deal. Satele can learn maybe to not be such a pucci out there.
We must be tough in the middle of the field
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:24 am
Redskins waived DT Anthony Montgomery.
Montgomery was a backup tackle under the previous regime, but he likely wasn’t viewed as a fit in the new 3-4 scheme. Montgomery is only 26 and goes 6′6/330, so he’ll have a chance to latch on elsewhere.
Source: Redskins on Twitter
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Can this guy help us at all? (might be a better option than Joseph)
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:24 am
83: i’ll assume you weren’t talking to me in post #473
if you have to result to name calling, you’ve already lost
have a great day
what a school teacher move u wanted facts right that post is a fact
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:24 am
Agreed.
Henderson & Mawae would make a world of difference
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:25 am
WR depth chart
Murphy
Shillens
JLH
DHB
Vet mentor not currently on the team
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:26 am
# RNOraiderFan Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:22 am
Hey 83, All of the Raider’s WRs had stats like that. It was because of our QB and Offence ineptness. No one know which of the Raider’s WRs are any good until they get a QB and an Offence that works. If you bring in a T.O type WR we will never know. There is no Superbowl this year, lets see what we have before we start giving up on guys that just might suprize us.
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This is what exactly I told Steve Corkran last week. It would be amazing for our skill positions guys to have a QB that can throw them the ball in the perfect place. I believe the numbers would be a surprise to alot but not to me. I think we have some talent at WR and TE….along with the backs we can have an above average offense…dont know if we can be potent as of yet
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:27 am
we do have Jacoby Ford that can split the field with his wheels
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:27 am
Then sign Kevin Mawae to a one year deal. Satele can learn maybe to not be such a pucci out there.
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This would not be a bad pick up. Henderson is done.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:28 am
# RNOraiderFan Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:25 am
WR depth chart
Murphy
Shillens
JLH
DHB
Vet mentor not currently on the team
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I dont think we need a mentor
I like the 6 guys we have now….Chaz needs to be the no.1 with Murphy 2 JLH 3 DHB 4 Watkins 5 and Ford 6………I can be happy with that group with JC leading the offense
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:30 am
# RNOraiderFan Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:27 am
Then sign Kevin Mawae to a one year deal. Satele can learn maybe to not be such a pucci out there.
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This would not be a bad pick up. Henderson is done.
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Exactly how is Henderson done? Shown to be a durable player and if you didnt notice…JAX doesnt have the same defensive squad as they did when their run defense was best in the NFL….a change of scenery would do this guy well and then we dont have to embarrass ourselves with Bryant or Kelly playing the Nose Tackle. Kelly stands to gain alot with someone like Henderson there
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:31 am
Fact: The Raiders have not had a good QB for the past 6 years.
Fact: the Raiders have not had a good OL for the past 6 years.
Opinion: The Raiders have not had good WR’s for the past 6 years.
Opinion: the Raiders have not had good RBs for the past 6 years.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:33 am
Morning, Brian the Genital!
So when’s your dad going to be blogging again? I’ve been lucky enough to meet other members of your wacky family, but haven’t been able to hang out with your old man yet.
Does he know you consider yourself a “verified” blogger? Man, he must be so embarrassed!
Which reminds me – did you tell your dad that his dad KrappyKell is now blogging over on PFT? What a tragedy for a blogging family!
I bet that caused some uneasy moments last night during Sunday Night Family Supper, huh?
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:33 am
Oh yeah anyone seen BHP lately? Remember how he said I didnt know shyt because I complained about a Nose Tackle that we dont use a NOSE TACKLE? LOL funny how Cable says different. BHP you are a classic and I know you dont want any part of me but its all good OG….you still cool just lost
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:33 am
guys like u kill me sofTTTT
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:33 am
John Henderson has had back problems for about 4 years now. His play has been steadily declining every year because of the back concerns. This guy does not have much left. If he was that good the would be signed by now. DT is a prized position in the NFL (look at the Draft) how come no one wants Henderson?
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:34 am
# Senior Beeecham Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:33 am
Morning, Brian the Genital!
So when’s your dad going to be blogging again? I’ve been lucky enough to meet other members of your wacky family, but haven’t been able to hang out with your old man yet.
Does he know you consider yourself a “verified” blogger? Man, he must be so embarrassed!
Which reminds me – did you tell your dad that his dad KrappyKell is now blogging over on PFT? What a tragedy for a blogging family!
I bet that caused some uneasy moments last night during Sunday Night Family Supper, huh?
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Anything football or Raiders related? Naw, I’m asking too much for American Idol’s biggest supporter Senorita Beecher. Move along lil queen
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:35 am
Gotta go,Later Nation!
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:37 am
# RNOraiderFan Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:33 am
John Henderson has had back problems for about 4 years now. His play has been steadily declining every year because of the back concerns. This guy does not have much left. If he was that good the would be signed by now. DT is a prized position in the NFL (look at the Draft) how come no one wants Henderson?
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I totally disagree with ya on the last 4 years. Now that last two years without Marcus Stroud there has been a decline but overall Jax defense has declined. As I said the players from that defense are no longer there. That has to account for something. and yes he has back issues but he still starts and plays without any complaint. guy is a warrior and we need a warrior like that to help us stop the run….Tommy Kelly has much better year I guarantee you that.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:38 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruh4_xud37c
You dont want this crazy mufuka on the d-line? Please we will fuk people the fuk up!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:40 am
See ya RNO
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:40 am
how come no one wants Henderson?
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Chiefs, Falcons & Giants are all interested.
he cancelled his visit to KC, didn’t want to play in thier 3-4 defense.
I think he’s visiting NY this week, if he hasn’t already
they need to replace Fred Robbins (Rams)
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:41 am
I like the 6 guys we have now….Chaz needs to be the no.1 with Murphy 2 JLH 3 DHB 4 Watkins 5 and Ford 6………I can be happy with that group with JC leading the offense
chaz is hurt all the time higgins is scary we need atleast one WR
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:42 am
“Tommy Kelly has much better year I guarantee you that.”
Tommy Kelly will have a much better year already with better LB play.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:43 am
Wassup B!
Stop making excuses for the WRs. New QBs, same old shyt. Chaz and Miller are hurt and everyone else is dropping balls.
When Todd Watkins is the standout in camp, that’s a problem in my mind.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:44 am
Back, checked out the youtube vid. That is great befor the game, but what is he doing in the game? This pick up just smells of Sapp to me. Lets see what we have right now. and then worry about upgrades next year.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:47 am
why b avg when we could b great
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:49 am
# the_big_one_of_83 Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:41 am
I like the 6 guys we have now….Chaz needs to be the no.1 with Murphy 2 JLH 3 DHB 4 Watkins 5 and Ford 6………I can be happy with that group with JC leading the offense
chaz is hurt all the time higgins is scary we need atleast one WR
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I agree Chaz needs to be 100 pct this year but JLH is not scary….I’m sorry but if you played KR and PR at 185 lbs in the NFL you arent scared. It takes alot of nuts to stand looking up at the ball knowing you got 11 animals running to rock your world…..sorry man you are wrong about JLH………way wrong
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:50 am
Build through the Draft, develop your own players, only sign FAs for depth and back up positions.
This is how championships are built.
Of all the Raiders Probowl players the last few years (I know there is a lot of them) which ones were picked up in FA? I can think of only one and that is Burgess.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:50 am
I am not to sure we need a player that enjoys getting pimped slapped like a little b!t(#!!!!
Looks like a show off to me that slap was weak.
My wife slapped me harder than that when I give her my two minute drill..I mean…well to much information.
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The Return of Godliness Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:38 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruh4_xud37c
You dont want this crazy mufuka on the d-line? Please we will fuk people the fuk up!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:51 am
GREAT NEWS !!!
“It was a freak deal,” Gallery said. “It is not very common. My vertebrae were hitting my spine, but there was no damage.”
Gallery was hospitalized for a week, but the rehabilitation was set to get him up as fast as possible. “I was doing light workouts within two weeks,” he said.
The Raiders’ doctors cleared him for the minicamp, and the seventh-year veteran didn’t miss a snap in five practices.
“Everything is feeling good,” Gallery said.
Coach Tom Cable said Oakland is lucky to have Gallery back to lead an offensive line that had its troubles last season.
“Fortunately, it wasn’t in his lower back,” Cable said. “He’s good, with no issues.”
Vittorio Tafur, Chronicle Staff Writer
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:52 am
# RNOraiderFan Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:44 am
Back, checked out the youtube vid. That is great befor the game, but what is he doing in the game? This pick up just smells of Sapp to me. Lets see what we have right now. and then worry about upgrades next year.
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Sapp? First off you are wrong by a long shot my friend to compare him to Sapp. Sapp was never a run stuffer he is a UT. Henderson has been an anchor on Stout defenses as the run stuffer.
LOL let’s see what we have now? Worry next year? Man this is 2010 not 2011. You worry about 2011 when 2010 is done buddy. We have NOTHING at NT. You get that? We have NOTHING there. Cable is considering Desmond Bryant or Tommy Kelly as NT lol….this will not work at all
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:52 am
wr help is definitly needed
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:52 am
Brian the Genital, for someone dying to talk football you sure seem interested in discussing the BP situation.
Anyway, sillybuns, any update on when your daddy is coming back into the blog? Man, blogging is a Krappy and sons family tradition, huh!
I just hope you don’t follow your grandfather over to PFT. Seriously bro, it’ll make it much less interesting in here if all the lame blog dorks like you and your family run away.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:52 am
My wife slapped me harder than that when I give her my two minute drill..
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LOL @ CJ !!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:54 am
JaMarcus Russell still hasn’t mastered the art of the short pass, hitting Darren McFadden with a swing pass to his right on one play, then firing the next at the feet of Rock Cartwright.
Russell, whose best practice session was his first one, got a limited amount of snaps in each of the last two practices.
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Didnt I mention something about this guy that for every step forward he takes two back. I asked for my words to be marked. Looks like I know what I’m talking about when it comes to this bumm.
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May 3rd, 2010 at 10:54 am
# jhill Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:43 am
Wassup B!
Stop making excuses for the WRs. New QBs, same old shyt. Chaz and Miller are hurt and everyone else is dropping balls.
When Todd Watkins is the standout in camp, that’s a problem in my mind.
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Excuses? No facts my friend. Your boy Russell ruined the offense last year thus ruining the season. Nick Miller? No one gives a fuk about him at all. His fate was sealed when we drafted Ford………..next
Todd Watkins is a player I’ve never had issue with. Watkins always stands out in camp. Where have you been?
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:55 am
# the_big_one_of_83 Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:52 am
wr help is definitly needed
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Not from a f@ggot like 49er Terrel Owens
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:56 am
# CJ Legend 34 Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:50 am
I am not to sure we need a player that enjoys getting pimped slapped like a little b!t(#!!!!
Looks like a show off to me that slap was weak.
My wife slapped me harder than that when I give her my two minute drill..I mean…well to much information.
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The Return of Godliness Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:38 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruh4_xud37c
You dont want this crazy mufuka on the d-line? Please we will fuk people the fuk up!!
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come CJ lol…..guy getting fired up before big games. Crazy mfker has anchored very good defenses…he is an upgrade over any damn NT we have now
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:56 am
Alright you guys have your opinions I have mine. I only like signing FAs to be back ups, unless someone really special comes along. I don’t see Henderson as that real special guy. He could be usefull an a rotational basis, but I think the guy will demand big $ and Demand major playing time. I don’t want him, but its not my team. I really have to go now
Later Nation! 4 sure this time. Quit trying to suck me back into the conversation. LOL
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:57 am
what were Ted Tollner & Sanjay Lal during this last minicamp?
shining Hue Jackson’s shoes?
no mention of either guy from Jerry Mac or Vit Taffy!
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:57 am
# Senior Beeecham Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:52 am
Brian the Genital, for someone dying to talk football you sure seem interested in discussing the BP situation.
Anyway, sillybuns, any update on when your daddy is coming back into the blog? Man, blogging is a Krappy and sons family tradition, huh!
I just hope you don’t follow your grandfather over to PFT. Seriously bro, it’ll make it much less interesting in here if all the lame blog dorks like you and your family run away.
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Boooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnngggggggggg
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:58 am
what were they DOING*
sorry
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:59 am
# RNOraiderFan Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:56 am
Alright you guys have your opinions I have mine. I only like signing FAs to be back ups, unless someone really special comes along. I don’t see Henderson as that real special guy. He could be usefull an a rotational basis, but I think the guy will demand big $ and Demand major playing time. I don’t want him, but its not my team. I really have to go now
Later Nation! 4 sure this time. Quit trying to suck me back into the conversation. LOL
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You cant name one guy on our defense that is a better NT than Henderson. If you can please try and it will be shot to pieces
You speak of his play slacking off you realize his UT got traded to Buffalo and they moved him to UT….Henderson is not a UT he is a NT. People forget that
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:00 am
RRS…..these people are nuts to think we can get by with patchwork done at the NT spot. Desmond Bryant at 290 lbs? Tommy Kell? Did we not see him as NT in 2006? Yeah exactly
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:01 am
John Henderson is a former 1st rounder & Pro Bowler. played and started for some very good physical defenses under Tom Coughlin (rookie season) and Jack Del Rio.
I’d rather take a flier on him than trusting 2 undrafted players that were on the team last year when we ranked 29th against the run. call me crazy
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:02 am
B,
I think Seymour will be playing lots of snaps in the middle.
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:03 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:01 am
John Henderson is a former 1st rounder & Pro Bowler. played and started for some very good physical defenses under Tom Coughlin (rookie season) and Jack Del Rio.
I’d rather take a flier on him than trusting 2 undrafted players that were on the team last year when we ranked 29th against the run. call me crazy
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Yes! Why are we the only ones that see this? It really says something bad about the rest of our Raider brothers to not see this
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:03 am
# DMAC Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:02 am
B,
I think Seymour will be playing lots of snaps in the middle.
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LOL at NT? Joke
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:04 am
Our WRs may be the worst group on offense man …
As of now, Louis Murphy “SEEMS” like he is the best guy we have. Chaz will NOT play more than 8 games this year, and after TWO surgeries on his left foot this offseason, what are you really expecting from him.
Was really hoping DHB took huge strides forward, but I have to agree with you that he’s looking like 4th string. But he’ll start, and we all know it.
JLH has talent, but he does some stupid shyt man. Obviously the coaches have an issue with his lack of concentration, STILL! I won’t deny his TD potential, but if I see him not look for a ball, run into another WR, or run OOB ONE MORE TIME ……
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:05 am
I don’t think Seymour and Kelly are a joke in the middle.
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:05 am
Our NT’s name is Heard !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:06 am
Not from a f@ggot like 49er Terrel Owens
u cant hate on every player who they get just cause they scout talent better than big AL he is better possion guy and big run after catch guy look we got DHB 6 college carrer TD in 4 yrs crabtree had over 20 whos fault is it he’s a niner BIG AL’s
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:06 am
You may not like it, but it is what it is guys …
In what will most likely be a 3 man rotation at DT, Kelly, Bryant, and Seymour will get the snaps.
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:07 am
# jhill Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:04 am
Our WRs may be the worst group on offense man …
As of now, Louis Murphy “SEEMS” like he is the best guy we have. Chaz will NOT play more than 8 games this year, and after TWO surgeries on his left foot this offseason, what are you really expecting from him.
Was really hoping DHB took huge strides forward, but I have to agree with you that he’s looking like 4th string. But he’ll start, and we all know it.
JLH has talent, but he does some stupid shyt man. Obviously the coaches have an issue with his lack of concentration, STILL! I won’t deny his TD potential, but if I see him not look for a ball, run into another WR, or run OOB ONE MORE TIME ……
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Smog infecting your brain my brother….oline is worse on offense by far. Chaz has been hurt but Organization loves that guy…I’m no doctor but the surgeries were done to correct it fully. What do you say when he plays full schedule?
You damn right JLH is TD potential….we have seen when he gets ball thrown correct he makes catch….WITH HIS HANDS unlike dhb
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:08 am
# DMAC Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:05 am
I don’t think Seymour and Kelly are a joke in the middle.
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Haahahahahahahahahah as base DTs to stop run…we would still have some issues
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:08 am
# jhill Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:05 am
Our NT’s name is Heard !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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LOL another UDFA gonna save us huh?
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:09 am
If our offense is better, the D should be better also.
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:09 am
I’d rather take a flier on him than trusting 2 undrafted players that were on the team last year when we ranked 29th against the run. call me crazy
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Yes! Why are we the only ones that see this? It really says something bad about the rest of our Raider brothers to not see this
i like henderson but i dont like you guys thoughts on our WR we need help
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:09 am
Have we CUT McFelldown yet?
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:10 am
if I see him not look for a ball, run into another WR, or run OOB ONE MORE TIME ……
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run into a WR? are you sure that wasn’t on Louis Murphy?
weren’t you the one claiming that Murphy ran the wrong route in Week 1 against SD that caused a Russell interception ???
out of bounds was a return man play. Ford is our returner now
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:10 am
# the_big_one_of_83 Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:06 am
Not from a f@ggot like 49er Terrel Owens
u cant hate on every player who they get just cause they scout talent better than big AL he is better possion guy and big run after catch guy look we got DHB 6 college carrer TD in 4 yrs crabtree had over 20 whos fault is it he’s a niner BIG AL’s
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F@gtree is in SF…2009 draft is over. DHB is here and we aint getting F@gtree ever……TO is a nobody and will be committing suicide in the near future
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:11 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:09 am
Have we CUT McFelldown yet?
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No we wont be doing it…………we will cut him when you take off your Wolverine gear
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:12 am
# the_big_one_of_83 Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:09 am
I’d rather take a flier on him than trusting 2 undrafted players that were on the team last year when we ranked 29th against the run. call me crazy
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Yes! Why are we the only ones that see this? It really says something bad about the rest of our Raider brothers to not see this
i like henderson but i dont like you guys thoughts on our WR we need help
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LOL i believe we are…..but the help you want is who? No one is out there
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:12 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:10 am
if I see him not look for a ball, run into another WR, or run OOB ONE MORE TIME ……
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run into a WR? are you sure that wasn’t on Louis Murphy?
weren’t you the one claiming that Murphy ran the wrong route in Week 1 against SD that caused a Russell interception ???
out of bounds was a return man play. Ford is our returner now
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Yes RRS…preach brother preach
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:16 am
Schilens
Higgins
Heyward-Bey
Murphy
Ford
Muhsin Muhammad*
I think Jackson, Tollner & Lal can milk some production from this unit. Jason Campbell at QB and 3 new starters on the OL certainly should help as well.
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:18 am
Oline is not the worst position group anymore ..
I can actually say I have something to look forward to with Veldheer taking over for that dipshyt Mario Henderson and Bruce Campbell taking over at RG, and the 365 lbs over road grading Walker at RT!
Not happy with the WR situation at all. That could easily turn around if we can get 16 games from Chaz and, uh, yeah Miller.
Contrary to your opinion, I think JLH is the one on notice with the Jacoby Ford pickup. JLH AND Miller are probably both gone.
Ideally (in the coaches mind)
Chaz
DHB
Murphy
Ford
Miller/JLH
Watkins/Holland
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:19 am
Mushin Muhammad? LOL hell naw
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:21 am
i want the old raiders back the outlaw raiders not this politicaly correct crap
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:21 am
# jhill Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:18 am
Oline is not the worst position group anymore ..
I can actually say I have something to look forward to with Veldheer taking over for that dipshyt Mario Henderson and Bruce Campbell taking over at RG, and the 365 lbs over road grading Walker at RT!
Not happy with the WR situation at all. That could easily turn around if we can get 16 games from Chaz and, uh, yeah Miller.
Contrary to your opinion, I think JLH is the one on notice with the Jacoby Ford pickup. JLH AND Miller are probably both gone.
Ideally (in the coaches mind)
Chaz
DHB
Murphy
Ford
Miller/JLH
Watkins/Holland
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Man you really need to lay off of the laced weed man….its affecting you badly now
JLH is not one notice cause of Ford. Nick Miller is…..Holland? LOL That guy is sliced!!! We are carrying 6 WRs and they are ones I stated
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:21 am
Schilens – hurt
Walker – doghouse
N. Miller – hurt
DHB – hurt
Higgins – hurt
Murphy & Watkins were the only guys healthy all of last year
the WR corps examined (alone – by itself) should be more productive if they can stay healthy. without taking into consideration QB, play calling and the threat of a rushing attack
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:21 am
Schilens
Higgins
Heyward-Bey
Murphy
Ford
Muhsin Muhammad*
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That’s just not realistic, man.
DHB is NOT a slot WR first of all. and JLH is NOT starting over him.
And you REALLY think JLH is playing in front of Murphy?
JLH is AT BEST battling for #4 with Ford, Miller, Watkins, and Holland.
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:21 am
# the_big_one_of_83 Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:21 am
i want the old raiders back the outlaw raiders not this politicaly correct crap
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I agree wit ya on that….that’s why Farglass and Kirk are gone
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:23 am
# jhill Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:21 am
Schilens
Higgins
Heyward-Bey
Murphy
Ford
Muhsin Muhammad*
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That’s just not realistic, man.
DHB is NOT a slot WR first of all. and JLH is NOT starting over him.
And you REALLY think JLH is playing in front of Murphy?
JLH is AT BEST battling for #4 with Ford, Miller, Watkins, and Holland.
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Ok so DHB isnt a slot WR but then JLH is no better than 4th? You arent making sense at all Jheezy. Chaz and Murphy shouyld be starters with Higgins as the slot….We talking about bringing matchup hells to people
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:24 am
Jhill lol…..quit with the nick miller and jonathan holland crap…you know they arent apart of the 6
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:25 am
JLH was 4th string LAST YEAR !!!!!!!!!
What has changed ????
Chaz and DHB are starting!
Louis Murphy is #3!
Nick Miller was not kept around ALL YEAR for nothing. He was ALREADY ahead of JLH as a rookie UDFA, lol!
YOU People ….
JLH has AT LEAST lost his PR duties, and is WITHOUT question no better than #4 on the depth chart. Let Jacoby Ford do anything at the WR position in camp, and JLH is as good as cut.
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:27 am
# jhill Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:25 am
JLH was 4th string LAST YEAR !!!!!!!!!
What has changed ????
Chaz and DHB are starting!
Louis Murphy is #3!
Nick Miller was not kept around ALL YEAR for nothing. He was ALREADY ahead of JLH as a rookie UDFA, lol!
YOU People ….
JLH has AT LEAST lost his PR duties, and is WITHOUT question no better than #4 on the depth chart. Let Jacoby Ford do anything at the WR position in camp, and JLH is as good as cut.
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totally false info right here…..explain to me when Nick Miller was ever elevated over JLH…………you have no basis to say such a thing.
how much you wanna bet DHB doesnt start and that Chaz and Murphy will be starting week 1 in tennessee
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:27 am
Mushin Muhammad? LOL hell naw
thats yo boy thats what he thinks
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:28 am
LOL nick miller wasnt kept around for nada just like arman shields and other guys right?
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:28 am
# the_big_one_of_83 Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:27 am
Mushin Muhammad? LOL hell naw
thats yo boy thats what he thinks
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naw man…damn getting a super old ass WR…..no purpose
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:30 am
Jhill your obsession with DB killer Nick Miller is now bordering crazy…I may be forced to call the authorities in LA to restrain you from further damage
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:31 am
Chaz and Murphy shouyld be starters with Higgins as the slot
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You conceded Murphy is a better player than JLH, but your problem is you don’t acknowledge DHB will start.
DHB, Chaz, and Murphy are the top 3 options.
Jacoby Ford, JLH, Nick Miller are fighting for #4. Miller adds a little color to the WRs!
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:32 am
Ok so DHB isnt a slot WR but then JLH is no better than 4th? You arent making sense at all Jheezy. Chaz and Murphy shouyld be starters with Higgins as the slot….We talking about bringing matchup hells to people
DHB should be num 3 with his 4.2 speed hewill kill LB safety’s and nickle backs if he can hold on to the ball
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:34 am
…..explain to me when Nick Miller was ever elevated over JLH…………you have no basis to say such a thing.
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CMON B …
It was clear as day that Nick the trick was fast tracking himself into the good graces of the coaches. You are about the only person I ever hear doubting Miller. Why did they keep him on the roster all season?
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:35 am
# jhill Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:31 am
Chaz and Murphy shouyld be starters with Higgins as the slot
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You conceded Murphy is a better player than JLH, but your problem is you don’t acknowledge DHB will start.
DHB, Chaz, and Murphy are the top 3 options.
Jacoby Ford, JLH, Nick Miller are fighting for #4. Miller adds a little color to the WRs!
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Murphy is a damn good WR and had shytty QB play last year. He has the attitude and skills to make it happen in 2010…I’m like Al I have unshakable confidence in that.
Please see how they sat DHB the last 4-5 games last year? They finally figured out the guy just aint ready to be a starter or getting significant snaps……They shouldnt force the issue especially when you got 3-4 better WRs right now on the roster
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:36 am
just like arman shields and other guys right?
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Shields NEVER held a roster spot. He was IRd outta camp.
Other guys ????
AND …
Nick Miller was an UDFA on top of all this. I don’t EVER recall Al holding a spot for someone like that. NEVER!
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:36 am
he is our project of the last al davis draft put him at #3 then he isnt under so much pressure off the young guy
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:37 am
Can you guys imagine if we never drafted DHB? We could have had someone like Eugene Monroe or Michael Oher. We could have Schilens and Murphy on the outside with Higgins in the slot and Ford as the 4th receiver and Watkins at 5th. don’t know who is 6th some scrub like Figurs or Hubbard?
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:37 am
how much you wanna bet DHB doesnt start and that Chaz and Murphy will be starting week 1 in tennessee
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I actually hope this part is true …
But I will certainly bet you that DHB gets WAYYYYY more snaps than JLH!
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:37 am
# jhill Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:34 am
…..explain to me when Nick Miller was ever elevated over JLH…………you have no basis to say such a thing.
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CMON B …
It was clear as day that Nick the trick was fast tracking himself into the good graces of the coaches. You are about the only person I ever hear doubting Miller. Why did they keep him on the roster all season?
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So what he had good graces with coaches…so did Todd Watkins the last two seasons. I dont doubt they like him, I have no issue withthe guy but he isnt better than JLH at all. Team wants JLH to focus more on being a WR not a KR/PR…..hell why have the Raiders in past seasons get guys on roster only to let em go a lil later?
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:37 am
my appologies.
Schilens
Higgins
Heyward-Bey
Murphy
Ford
Muhsin Muhammad*
this list is not in order.
Schilens/Murphy
Heyward-Bey/Higgins
Ford – return man. emergency help at WR or useful in trick plays
Moose – vet mentor. useful to move the chains if these other cats have a case of the drops again.
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:37 am
I think JLH’s best days are behind him.
He did not seem to want it last year, especially on KR.
If he is not returning kicks, what do you have? A smallish, inconsistant WR, with no intentions of blocking or assisting on special teams.
Do you keep him around all year for those 2 or 3 weeks when he does something spectacular? I don’t know, but it shouldn’t be cut or dry. Very debatable.
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:39 am
And call me crazy, but I have no hope in the undrafted, pint-sized, white WR from Southern Utah.
Give me Todd Watkins over the DB killer.
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:40 am
They finally figured out the guy just aint ready to be a starter or getting significant snaps…
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Really?
I thought it was the QBs he was playing with?
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:40 am
# jhill Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:37 am
how much you wanna bet DHB doesnt start and that Chaz and Murphy will be starting week 1 in tennessee
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I actually hope this part is true …
But I will certainly bet you that DHB gets WAYYYYY more snaps than JLH!
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Week 1, you think so? I dont and it would be a tragic mistake. JLH is better than DHB right now
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:41 am
# jhill Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:40 am
They finally figured out the guy just aint ready to be a starter or getting significant snaps…
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Really?
I thought it was the QBs he was playing with?
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no doubt the Qbs stunk but DHB didnt help matters ever
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:42 am
we need the outlaws back outcast’s like T.O /big henderson/we got the redskins outcast QB why not T.O
and if he comes here and catches 100 balls and atleast 10 TD u guys will be wearing that silver and black owens jersey
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:42 am
I dont doubt they like him, I have no issue with the guy but he isnt better than JLH at all. Team wants JLH to focus more on being a WR not a KR/PR
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JLH is the Jamarcus Russell of the WRs, and Nick Miller is Bruce Gradkowski.
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:43 am
# vegas raider Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:37 am
I think JLH’s best days are behind him.
He did not seem to want it last year, especially on KR.
If he is not returning kicks, what do you have? A smallish, inconsistant WR, with no intentions of blocking or assisting on special teams.
Do you keep him around all year for those 2 or 3 weeks when he does something spectacular? I don’t know, but it shouldn’t be cut or dry. Very debatable.
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LOL best days behind him like he is 30 plus lololololololololol. Inconsistent? Explain how any WR on our roster can be consistent lol.
KR? Name one time he did that in 2009……..I’ll wait
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:44 am
But I will certainly bet you that DHB gets WAYYYYY more snaps than JLH!
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Week 1, you think so? I dont and it would be a tragic mistake. JLH is better than DHB right now
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Is that a NO on the bet?
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:44 am
He did not seem to want it last year, especially on KR.
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Vegas: Higgins had a total of ZERO kick returns last year
5.2 yards was his punt return average.
that does put us in the bottom 5 or 6 teams in the league for that stat – that’s why Ford was drafted!
Higgins is a WR now. and he’s a better WR than anybody else on this team not named Schilens, or Murphy!
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:45 am
And call me crazy, but I have no hope in the undrafted, pint-sized, white WR from Southern Utah.
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Think Wes Welker with a lot more speed!
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:45 am
# jhill Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:42 am
I dont doubt they like him, I have no issue with the guy but he isnt better than JLH at all. Team wants JLH to focus more on being a WR not a KR/PR
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JLH is the Jamarcus Russell of the WRs, and Nick Miller is Bruce Gradkowski.
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time to shoot this hogwash down with ease…as usual……..
JLH doesnt work hard? JLH doesnt show up to important team meetings or such? JLH is flaunting riches and laughing at poor people? JLH not a down to earth guy? JLH is a bust as a 1st overall pick?
Nick Miller is Bruce eh? So name that one game in the regular season where he………….oops wait you cant!!!…NEXT
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:46 am
I’ll probably like Johnny Lee Scary when he toughens up a bit ang gets rid of that fk’n Gumby cut.
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:46 am
# jhill Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:44 am
But I will certainly bet you that DHB gets WAYYYYY more snaps than JLH!
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Week 1, you think so? I dont and it would be a tragic mistake. JLH is better than DHB right now
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Is that a NO on the bet?
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The bet was chaz and murphy as starters
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:46 am
JLH is the Jamarcus Russell of the WRs, and Nick Miller is Bruce Gradkowski.
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LOL!
yeah. and Kirk Morrison = Patrick Willis
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:47 am
# DMAC Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:46 am
I’ll probably like Johnny Lee Scary when he toughens up a bit ang gets rid of that fk’n Gumby cut.
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Yeah the New Jack City box fade gotta go…..Scary? A guy who plays PR is not scared…..have you played football? I’m sure you have man so you know that guy isnt scared
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:47 am
KR = PR = HIS ASS IS OUTTA A JOB !!!!!!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:47 am
That’s quite an insult to Bruce and everything he did ON THE FIELD for us last year.
Even if Bruce is cut this Friday, we can all thank him for going in there and showing everyone that it wasn’t so much the O-line or the young WR’s or the play-calling, it was first and foremost the QB.
If Bruce goes out and lays a huge egg in those few games, there is no Jason Campbell, no Rolando McClain and TO, CJ Spiller and more “weapons” to build around Jamarcus.
Instead Bruce showed Al the light.
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:48 am
The bet was chaz and murphy as starters
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The POINT was JLH is no better than 4th on the depth chart!
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:49 am
Someone please look at the games from last year and you will see just like 2008…JLH was finally used inthe 2nd half of the year and didnt do too bad……come on guys…..YOU GOTTA WAKE UP
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:49 am
The Return of Godliness yep even u
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:49 am
That’s quite an insult to Bruce and everything he did ON THE FIELD for us last year.
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LMFAO!
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:49 am
# jhill Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:48 am
The bet was chaz and murphy as starters
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The POINT was JLH is no better than 4th on the depth chart!
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No the Bet was chaz and murphy my OG patna
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:49 am
These guys get payed millions to play football. If your job is to return punts, then you should do your job. If it returning punts isn’t for you, then let it be known and let someone else handle the duties.
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:51 am
# the_big_one_of_83 Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:42 am
we need the outlaws back outcast’s like T.O /big henderson/we got the redskins outcast QB why not T.O
and if he comes here and catches 100 balls and atleast 10 TD u guys will be wearing that silver and black owens jersey
# the_big_one_of_83 Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:49 am
The Return of Godliness yep even u
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TO catches balls over in the Castro during the pride parade. I would boo TO everytime just like I booed Fairy Rice everytime. 49ers get no love from me
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:52 am
you are need to relax and stop thinking we need to sign T.O that guy is a virus, and gradkowski isnt going anywhere , he is the guy showed the team some life so give it up
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:52 am
# DMAC Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:49 am
These guys get payed millions to play football. If your job is to return punts, then you should do your job. If it returning punts isn’t for you, then let it be known and let someone else handle the duties.
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Jacoby Ford is here for that purpose…so we can now move on and be excited for more good catches and dance moves from JLH…………..thanks
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:52 am
JLH is the Jamarcus Russell of the WRs, and Nick Miller is Bruce Gradkowski.
i dont like JLH either but thats going way over the top
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:53 am
Look I know JLH didn’t return any KICKOFFS, the point being a Kick Returner that is worth any salts can return both kicks and punts.
Why is Gary Russell an option returning kickoffs, but Higgins who has experience returning kickoffs not an option? Because JLH sucks at it, just like he did in punts.
And if Ford can make a few plays on offense, Nick Miller gets healthy (OK laugh there) and Watkins is still looking good off the bus and willing to cover punts, JLH might be toast in a few months.
And I don’t think we would miss Johnnie Lee Higgins.
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:53 am
If your job is to return punts, then you should do your job. If it returning punts isn’t for you, then let it be known and let someone else handle the duties.
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he did his job. he just didn’t have as much success at PR in 2009 as he did in 2008.
Ford is here to compete with him for those returner duties. he was drafted for that sole purpose.
Let Ford have’em and Higgins will have more time to work on his WR duties.
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:53 am
# jhill Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:47 am
KR = PR = HIS ASS IS OUTTA A JOB !!!!!!!
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WRONG…..try again buddy…he is a WR
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:53 am
I agree.
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:53 am
and didnt do too bad
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= not performing up to his potential either!
CMON man, YOU wake up!
DHB, Chaz, and Murphy are WITHOUT QUESTION the top 3 on the depth chart. Jacoby Ford was not brought in here to JUST be a return guy when the coach is touting his open field skills in the same breath as CJ Spiller. And Nick Miller WILL get every opportunity to make this team.
JLH is on NOTICE young man!
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:55 am
JLH sucks at KR? 36 returns for 842 yards doesnt say he SUCKS….
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:56 am
Johnny Lee Scary is not the same player as a KR/PR, as he once was.
Nuff said.
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:57 am
the carlton dance ha ha ha what a cornball
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:57 am
# jhill Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:53 am
and didnt do too bad
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= not performing up to his potential either!
CMON man, YOU wake up!
DHB, Chaz, and Murphy are WITHOUT QUESTION the top 3 on the depth chart. Jacoby Ford was not brought in here to JUST be a return guy when the coach is touting his open field skills in the same breath as CJ Spiller. And Nick Miller WILL get every opportunity to make this team.
JLH is on NOTICE young man!
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LOL not performing up to his potential eh? you mean that 3rd round pick?
Ford was brought here to shoot some juice in the return game…..no one is expecting him to rise up depth chart Jheezy
Nick Miller=LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL you been watching White Shadow?
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:58 am
# the_big_one_of_83 Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:57 am
the carlton dance ha ha ha what a cornball
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The Carlton Dance was dope….It was done in my endzone….the better endzone…fuk that black hole crap
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:58 am
Why is Gary Russell an option returning kickoffs, but Higgins who has experience returning kickoffs not an option? Because JLH sucks at it, just like he did in punts.
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so you’re suggesting that Higgins was asked to return kicks and he balked? or didn’t volunteer?
pure speculation. we don’t know if ANYBODY asked JLH to do anything!
Raiders could have slapped JLH with the KR duties before last season even started and he could have had 5 TD’s and went to the Pro Bowl. see what assumptions do for an argument? nothing
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:58 am
# DMAC Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:56 am
Johnny Lee Scary is not the same player as a KR/PR, as he once was.
Nuff said.
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JLH will be a big play guy with JC at the helm and yall will eath your words…..nuff said
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:59 am
A team official tells the Baltimore Sun that the Ravens have never discussed trading LT Jared Gaither for Nnamdi Asomugha.
A rumor apparently circulated recently that a Gaither-for-Asomugha deal was on the table, but we never caught wind of it. According to the Sun, the speculation was sparked “around low-level internet gossip sites.” The Ravens would be taking on well over $10 million in salary, while giving up a potential franchise left tackle, if they executed the unlikely deal.
Source: Baltimore Sun
Related: Raiders
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DAMN. The Nnamdi rumors don’t end.
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:59 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:58 am
Why is Gary Russell an option returning kickoffs, but Higgins who has experience returning kickoffs not an option? Because JLH sucks at it, just like he did in punts.
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so you’re suggesting that Higgins was asked to return kicks and he balked? or didn’t volunteer?
pure speculation. we don’t know if ANYBODY asked JLH to do anything!
Raiders could have slapped JLH with the KR duties before last season even started and he could have had 5 TD’s and went to the Pro Bowl. see what assumptions do for an argument? nothing
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BBBBBBBBBBBB BAM!
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:59 am
To let Gary Russell waddle around at the 15 yardline and not manning up and saying “I have 36 returns for 842 yards, let me do this” says he definately sucks.
The guy would rather dance than block. He has potential, but overall, I don’t think he will be around here for very long. Maybe this year, maybe another but that is about it.
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:00 pm
jamarcus russel on outside the lines again.
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Hey B,
I’m not arguing JLH WR skills. I like him in the slot. I just think his special team duties are done.
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:00 pm
that dance wont even make top ten celebrations
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Let me ask all you JLH scoffers this…………..
Had JLH gotten DHB snaps last year how much would the WR numbers been for the entire unit?
you cant say the production would be the same because then you are lying!
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:01 pm
# DMAC Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Hey B,
I’m not arguing JLH WR skills. I like him in the slot. I just think his special team duties are done.
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Yeah I want his special teams duties done….fugg all that let him be a WR
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:02 pm
# the_big_one_of_83 Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:00 pm
that dance wont even make top ten celebrations
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Alot of great endzone celebrations dont make it…….your point?
Us Raider people who went to that game loved it…..NEXT
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Look he is from a place called Sweeny, Texas, around 3,000 people.
Also from Sweeny, Texas? A man named Elmo Wright, who is credited as the first football player ever to dance in the endzone.
It’s in the water!!!!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:03 pm
# vegas raider Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:59 am
To let Gary Russell waddle around at the 15 yardline and not manning up and saying “I have 36 returns for 842 yards, let me do this” says he definately sucks.
The guy would rather dance than block. He has potential, but overall, I don’t think he will be around here for very long. Maybe this year, maybe another but that is about it.
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Refer to post 614……thanks
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Nnamdi Warren Woodsen and the myth of the Vanilla D
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:04 pm
JLH didnt get any significant time since week 1 when he got smacked by Weddle until week 10 vs Chiefs….he didnt do too bad huh? And what did DHB do that game?…………YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH………..Bauce!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:05 pm
fuk that we need #21 in the silver and black but this is bizz not just a game lik it is to us
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:05 pm
JLH is so scary, what about that shot he took in pittsburgh?
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:06 pm
I dont really give a fuk about Nnamdi like many others do
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
JLH regressed about as bad as Russell last year.
Terrible routes and danced like Bo Jangles in the return game.
Weeeeeaaaaaak….
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Anyhow people….the great one must bounce….got some stuff to do….and PURPLE TIME will be on tap………..BAUCE!
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:08 pm
JLH is so scary, what about that shot he took in pittsburgh?
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Shyted on his pants.
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:08 pm
check out outside the lines about jr
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:08 pm
To let Gary Russell waddle around at the 15 yardline and not manning up and saying “I have 36 returns for 842 yards, let me do this” says he definately sucks.
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the coaches coach. the players play.
Tom Cable wasn’t exactly a mastermind, ya know?
he stripped of play calling and now he’s basically just an overseer of each group. a guy to call time outs and speak to the media. a puppet, so to speak
we don’t know what Higgins did or didn’t say. why guess?
I don’t get the indictment on Higgins at WR. some DB knocked the p1ss out of him and now he automatically sucks for the rest of his career? who have his QB’s been?
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:08 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
JLH regressed about as bad as Russell last year.
Terrible routes and danced like Bo Jangles in the return game.
Weeeeeaaaaaak….
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Maybe you arent paying attention enough my friend…..JLH didnt get real aignificant time until week 10…..lol Terrible routes? OK now we are reaching
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:10 pm
# DMAC Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:08 pm
JLH is so scary, what about that shot he took in pittsburgh?
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Shyted on his pants.
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4 big catches for 63 yards and that head shot he took while trying to go after the ball like a MAN got us a first down……JLH is cool….BAUCE!
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:10 pm
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May 3rd, 2010 at 12:11 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:08 pm
To let Gary Russell waddle around at the 15 yardline and not manning up and saying “I have 36 returns for 842 yards, let me do this” says he definately sucks.
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the coaches coach. the players play.
Tom Cable wasn’t exactly a mastermind, ya know?
he stripped of play calling and now he’s basically just an overseer of each group. a guy to call time outs and speak to the media. a puppet, so to speak
we don’t know what Higgins did or didn’t say. why guess?
I don’t get the indictment on Higgins at WR. some DB knocked the p1ss out of him and now he automatically sucks for the rest of his career? who have his QB’s been?
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No but Nick Miller and Jacoby Ford are godsend players lol
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:12 pm
how can Higgins go from very good WR & PR in 2008 to awful disaster in both categories in less than a year?
makes no sense.
Raider fans want results all game every game, but that isn’t reality.
Patience. I backed Huff last year and got blasted for it. Turns out I was right. I think I’m right on this cat too
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:15 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:08 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
JLH regressed about as bad as Russell last year.
Terrible routes and danced like Bo Jangles in the return game.
Weeeeeaaaaaak….
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Maybe you arent paying attention enough my friend…..JLH didnt get real aignificant time until week 10…..lol Terrible routes? OK now we are reaching
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I’m not the one paying attention? I’ve watched every game from last year 3-4 times.
Why do you think he didn’t get significant playing time till week 10?
JLH ran the WRONG routes too often during games. (Remmber that embarrasing collision where 2 Raider wides took themselves out?
JLH’s fault.
Remember the Pittsburgh game where he had 2 steps on his man and quit on the route as the ball sailed over his head?
No of course you don’t.
JLH regressed and has a loooong way to go. If he’s not valuable in the return game, he’s not valuable.
Maybe he’ll get back on track this year, who knows, but last year, he was a dissapointment.
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:15 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:12 pm
how can Higgins go from very good WR & PR in 2008 to awful disaster in both categories in less than a year?
makes no sense.
Raider fans want results all game every game, but that isn’t reality.
Patience. I backed Huff last year and got blasted for it. Turns out I was right. I think I’m right on this cat too
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Yeah I was one of the guys who blasted you but you stayed with it and I as always give props to people when right…you were spot on……dont listen to these people. At times they are lost but overall are still Raider brothers…just misguided
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:17 pm
JLH ran the WRONG routes too often during games. (Remmber that embarrasing collision where 2 Raider wides took themselves out?
JLH’s fault.
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how do you know?
is your name Cable, Hackett or Tollner?
is that because Louis Murphy and his 9 drops are incapable of doing anything wrong?
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Patience. I backed Huff last year and got blasted for it. Turns out I was right. I think I’m right on this cat too
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Well I was right about Huff too, and I think I got this JLH character pegged too!
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:18 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:15 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:08 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
JLH regressed about as bad as Russell last year.
Terrible routes and danced like Bo Jangles in the return game.
Weeeeeaaaaaak….
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Maybe you arent paying attention enough my friend…..JLH didnt get real aignificant time until week 10…..lol Terrible routes? OK now we are reaching
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I’m not the one paying attention? I’ve watched every game from last year 3-4 times.
Why do you think he didn’t get significant playing time till week 10?
JLH ran the WRONG routes too often during games. (Remmber that embarrasing collision where 2 Raider wides took themselves out?
JLH’s fault.
Remember the Pittsburgh game where he had 2 steps on his man and quit on the route as the ball sailed over his head?
No of course you don’t.
JLH regressed and has a loooong way to go. If he’s not valuable in the return game, he’s not valuable.
Maybe he’ll get back on track this year, who knows, but last year, he was a dissapointment.
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LOL wow two examples….well we can look at ALL wrs in the NFL and see routes not ran to precise levels……
He didnt get significant because he was hurt after week 1 and never got back right until midseason
I love how you use the Pitt….remember those big catches? Yeah you do of course!! lol
As for the running into other WR………….you mean when the rookie ran into him?
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:19 pm
# jhill Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Patience. I backed Huff last year and got blasted for it. Turns out I was right. I think I’m right on this cat too
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Well I was right about Huff too, and I think I got this JLH character pegged too!
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Naw you dont, you are off on this one
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:20 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:17 pm
JLH ran the WRONG routes too often during games. (Remmber that embarrasing collision where 2 Raider wides took themselves out?
JLH’s fault.
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how do you know?
is your name Cable, Hackett or Tollner?
is that because Louis Murphy and his 9 drops are incapable of doing anything wrong?
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HAHAHAHAHA……….Bauce!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:20 pm
falling asleep in meetings and in his locker cut his a$$
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:22 pm
This is a ridiculous argument you JLH guys are trying to pull off.
Chaz, Murphy, and DHB are WITHOUT QUESTION ahead of JLH on the depth chart!
If you REALLY think that Jacob Ford will be limited to KR/PR and not get snaps at WR, then you are just not being realistic.
You want to talk about what SHOULD happen, but the REALITY is quite different.
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Man this Chaka Khan is going hard……was gonna leave but you guys are just too entertaining at time………lol nick miller was ahead of jlh on depth chart last year hahahahahah as well as the injured lil dude will take his spot now
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Well I was right about Huff too, and I think I got this JLH character pegged too!
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Naw you dont, you are off on this one
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So is that a yes on the DHB gets more snaps that JLH ????
Or in other words, JLH is no better than #4 on the depth chart?
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:24 pm
russell and one of our WR need to be cut
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:25 pm
# jhill Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:22 pm
This is a ridiculous argument you JLH guys are trying to pull off.
Chaz, Murphy, and DHB are WITHOUT QUESTION ahead of JLH on the depth chart!
If you REALLY think that Jacob Ford will be limited to KR/PR and not get snaps at WR, then you are just not being realistic.
You want to talk about what SHOULD happen, but the REALITY is quite different.
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Who said he would get zero snaps throughout thr season? People get hurt Jhill every year so come on man!!!
We arent pulling anything off…we stating facts while yall are stating opinions.
DHB is ahead of no one right now since he drops it likes hot all the time
Al loves JLH and he will be onthis team and will make plays….end of story
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:25 pm
falling asleep in meetings and in his locker cut his a$$
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And whoever let it go on, needs to be fired too!
Oh yeah, Kiffin is already gone, lol!
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Dude, gimme a frikkin break. TWO examples. I could go on and on trust, but I’ve proven my point.
BS he was “hurt” he got his di-k handed to him by Eric Weddle and the Chargers and started tap dancing instead of hitting the hole full speed.
PERIOD.
JLH sucked last year deal with it.
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:26 pm
# jhill Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Well I was right about Huff too, and I think I got this JLH character pegged too!
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Naw you dont, you are off on this one
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So is that a yes on the DHB gets more snaps that JLH ????
Or in other words, JLH is no better than #4 on the depth chart?
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As a slot WR no way he gets more snaps than JLH…if you scroll up you will see ive been backing jlh as the slot guy
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:27 pm
end of story
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And with that, gotta fire up the school bus and go pick up the little one.
Deuces!
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:27 pm
The Special Teams Unit needs to improve DRAMATICALLY this year to keep this team competitive and in games!
Fassel needs to step it the hell up!
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Later Peoples!!!!!!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:28 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Dude, gimme a frikkin break. TWO examples. I could go on and on trust, but I’ve proven my point.
BS he was “hurt” he got his di-k handed to him by Eric Weddle and the Chargers and started tap dancing instead of hitting the hole full speed.
PERIOD.
JLH sucked last year deal with it.
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How is it BS when Weddle injured him? Tap Dancing? Russell as usual threw a pass that will get someone killed!!!
JLH sucked? I noticed when his snaps increased the offense played better………..NEXT
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Sooooo
were the lowlifes who tried to ignite a car bomb yesterday in Times Square domestic terrorists or were they international?
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:29 pm
# jhill Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:27 pm
end of story
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And with that, gotta fire up the school bus and go pick up the little one.
Deuces!
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Cool handle that family bizz…..its a beautiful thing man
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:29 pm
DKnight007 Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:27 pm
The Special Teams Unit needs to improve DRAMATICALLY this year to keep this team competitive and in games!
Fassel needs to step it the hell up!
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Looks like we drafted some special teams type of guys.
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:29 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Sooooo
were the lowlifes who tried to ignite a car bomb yesterday in Times Square domestic terrorists or were they international?
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I do my best to not pay attention to it anymore
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:31 pm
DKnight007 Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Sooooo
were the lowlifes who tried to ignite a car bomb yesterday in Times Square domestic terrorists or were they international?
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Domestic as you can get.
One of the alphabet agencies trying to draw attention away from the oil spill and remind us the boogey man is out there so we don’t question the steady erosion of privacy and freedom.
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Truth word life
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:33 pm
SIGN JOHN HENDERSON now!!! Let’s have a stout defense for once
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:43 pm
walker vet leader ol seymour vet leader DL nhamdi vet leader wr ? vet leader none rb vet might b a leader cartwright qb campbell vet leader those mights and ? need to be adressed
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Panthers signed WR Trent Guy
Jets signed LB Brashton Satele
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ex-raider udfa’s must not have impressed at camp
Bucs cut OG Vladimir Richard. get a big hog named Vlad!
do it grandpa al!
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:47 pm
ex-raider kr/cb Justin Miller signed a 2 year contract with the Cardinals today.
why on earth did we let this guy go?
Nick Miller? LOL!
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:47 pm
were the lowlifes who tried to ignite a car bomb yesterday in Times Square domestic terrorists or were they international?
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Domestic as you can get.
One of the alphabet agencies trying to draw attention away from the oil spill and remind us the boogey man is out there so we don’t question the steady erosion of privacy and freedom.
we should pay attention if another country brings the fight over here u will wish u paid attention nd we will be in trouble
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:50 pm
thats the truth
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:51 pm
OG Vladimir Richard (Tennessee)
Height: 6-4
Weight: 316
competition for Alex Parsons!
pull the trigger old man!
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:53 pm
khtk talking up russell. saying he is 270lbs, completed 21-25 passes with 1st team in last day of minicamp, and looked good. their main point, is at no point in last seasons camps did he look anything other than badly. this is going to scare me, what if russ wins the job, does he have an advantage of davis support? bizarre.
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:53 pm
RG Cooper Carlisle
Height: 6-5
Weight: 295
turns 33 years old in August
just replace’em, baby!
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:54 pm
whats up NE?
how are things?
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:00 pm
new englandraider Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:53 pm
khtk talking up russell. saying he is 270lbs, completed 21-25 passes with 1st team in last day of minicamp, and looked good.
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Uh oh …….
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:00 pm
ex-raider kr/cb Justin Miller signed a 2 year contract with the Cardinals today.
why on earth did we let this guy go?
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He was hurt!
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:02 pm
I would have re-signed him after Nick Miller was sidelined with shin splints.
turf toe or not, he’s the best KR we’ve had in the last 10 years!
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:02 pm
rockstar
nothing much man. thx. how are you? been focused on the nba playoffs, just thought i’d pop in, as i was listening to khtk talk about how wonderful russell looked with the starters.
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:03 pm
hey al we should hire herm edwards as GM
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:03 pm
where’s BSJ?
now would be a nice time for a…..
trade JLH for Darrien gordon
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:05 pm
We did RRS …
And cut him after 1 game!
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:06 pm
been focused on the nba playoffs
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Spurs/Sun should be fun to watch.
what else tonight? go Cavs!
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:07 pm
nothing much man. thx. how are you? been focused on the nba playoffs, just thought i’d pop in, as i was listening to khtk talk about how wonderful russell looked with the starters.
cut that fat fuk asap
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:09 pm
rockstar
you’re right about spurs/suns. those two teams play some of the best nba playoff games ever. go cavs????? no, i hate the cavs. i hate the celtics too, but i do think boston will win the series. im a lakers fan rrs. u? who’s ur team?
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:10 pm
trade JLH for Darrien gordon
who is this gordon guy
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:11 pm
All hail Cal Rugby. 26th national championship in 31 years.
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Being a kick returner or going over the middle as a WR in the NFL requires a brass set.
Not a lot of Anquan Boldin-types around.
JLH had his handed to him and who knows if he’ll ever recover. Que sera.
JaMarginal acting as if he nearly cares…a mirage?
That dynamic shin splint Nicky…why?
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:11 pm
darrien gordon was a scrub KR obtained from the chargers. you really don’t remember him?
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:12 pm
cut that fat fuk asap
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Who the guy the folks who WERE AT CAMP said llok good with the starters and was 21-25 on the last day of camp?
The guy who Cam Inman (notorius Russell hater) said was the best QB on the field?
Why can’t we just let the competition play out on the field? Obviously Russell can’t beat out Campbell, Grads, or the other guys in a fair open competition, so what’s the hurry?
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:12 pm
thats whats up NE lakeshow
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Lakers are well on their way to another ring, lol.
The 2 teams that were supposed to send them home in the West are already out!
LMFAO!
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Why can’t we just let the competition play out on the field? Obviously Russell can’t beat out Campbell, Grads, or the other guys in a fair open competition, so what’s the hurry?
cuz he cant ever translate that to the field he looked good in preseason as well but we seen what happened cut the fat fuk
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:15 pm
someone up there wrote that (i think) that TK played NT in 06. that is nowhere near accurate, TK played end until 08
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:17 pm
when it counts he doesnt care when it doesnt count its easy to look good
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:17 pm
im a lakers fan rrs. u? who’s ur team?
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NE: i’m a Laker Hater
trade Kobe Bryant to the Clippers and I might reconsider.
always root for the underdog in the NBA playoffs usually. Cavs have been a dreadful team since existance before LeBron James came to town. hope he can bring home a trophy to Cleveland, OH. It’s not like the NFL Browns have ever given that city/state much hope. Makes a better story line than “Lakers win the finals for the 30th time” or whatever it is.
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:18 pm
check that, during 07 season, tk was moved to DT, and signed big contract before 08 season
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:18 pm
cuz he cant ever translate that to the field he looked good in preseason as well but we seen what happened
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When did he look good in the preseason?
Once Chaz went down, the offense was AWFUL!
Dallas game was decent with Chaz in there.
SF game was OK, but we got LAMBASTED in the Saints game which was when the O got to play a full half instead of a few series.
And last year this time, he NEVER looked even remotely like an NFL QB. Keystone Kops I think the reference was?
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:19 pm
TK played NT in 06. that is nowhere near accurate, TK played end until 08
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NE: ROG posted that
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:19 pm
trade Kobe Bryant to the Clippers and I might reconsider.
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You still mad he poked that lil snow bunny in the booty?
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:22 pm
henderson is best nt out their and he’s an animal
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:23 pm
RRS
so you don’t have a fav nba team? don’t like kobe huh? dude his bad ass. i actually used to like lebron, but that dancing bit really soured me on him. he seems to show little respect for his opponents. a lot can be said about both he and kobe’s conceit, but one has 4 titles, the other has the bubble 0. do not get me wrong, lebron is a fuggin beast, truly one of the greats, but does he have that killer instinct. you do not see kobe on the bench at the end of close games biting his nails, that’s for sure.
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:24 pm
rrs
who played dt in 06? sapp and????? i 4get, too much hippie lettuce. i know it wasn’t kelly, thats for sure.
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:27 pm
im a lakers fan rrs. u? who’s ur team?
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NE: i’m a Laker Hater
trade Kobe Bryant to the Clippers and I might reconsider
hi hater hi hater hate gets u nowhere
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:29 pm
sapp and warren in 06-07 season. kelly listed as dt as far back as 05, but he played end for the most part.
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:32 pm
NE: if memory serves me correctly, Kelly has played DT since 2006. Terdell Sands played a lot in 2006 too
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Gerard Warren came in 07 – Sapp’s last season
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Plaxico Burress, former New York Giant, has found himself in trouble again. Apparently already being in jail doesn’t prevent further punishment from being handed down.
TMZ is reporting that Cheddar Plax has lost a month of rec time and a week of phone privileges for lying to corrections staff… over a phone call. Back in November he allegedly said he was cleared to use the phone when in fact, he wasn’t. So you shoot yourself, attempt to lie about it, go to jail, and get in trouble for lying. Okay.
I do wonder how the league, and more specifically Roger Goodell, will react to this news. It doesn’t seem to show any sort of progression in his “rehabilitation” that he’s getting in trouble for lying, and that may be another self-inflicted shot at his chances of reinstatement. Gotta do better than that Plax.
http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articl…Prison/2537169
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:38 pm
trade JaWalrus & Nick Miller for Cheddar Plax !!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:39 pm
i wish the raiders could be like the lakers make the good and senceable move
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:41 pm
make the good and senceable move
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83: like signing Terrell Owens? LOL!
Kobe Bryant is the T.O. of basketball
PERIOD
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:45 pm
make the good and senceable move
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83: like signing Terrell Owens? LOL!
Kobe Bryant is the T.O. of basketball
PERIOD
you are slow kobe has rings not T.O u are clueless on sports so u and the moose go have a drink in the castro
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:47 pm
but they both have a desire to win rockstar u are probly the biggest nerd ever
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:48 pm
kobe has rings not T.O
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sorry. Kobe is the Philip Rivers of the NBA
better???
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:49 pm
rockstars like attention your name should raider kindergarden special helper not even teacher
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:50 pm
still dosent win enough tocompare
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:52 pm
you’re so funny. hehe. haha. hoohoo
wow.
take some lessons from Dakota, BSJ or Raider O before attempting comedy, alright?
this is gettin’ pretty bad
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:56 pm
its ok if u want to stay a fan of a losing team im here for life and i hate losing so get moose /T.O what ever gets us more competive if u are right i will apologize cuz thats what real men do admit being wrong
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:02 pm
The Bears are looking for back up QB’s. We seem to have a plethora of them right now. Might as well try to get smething for one of them, either Frye or Boller. Don’t think anyone would want JR…
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:02 pm
just win baby remember
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:03 pm
I’ll admit that i’m wrong, if/when it happens
I was wrong about Ricky Brown & Luke Lawton last year.
DEAD WRONG.
but I was right about Michael Huff & Trevor Scott.
50/50
this year I like McFadden, Heyward-Bey, Higgins & Chris Johnson. I have defended them. They are on the Rockstar scholarship program until further notice
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:04 pm
that goes for whatever i say on this site
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:04 pm
the_big_one_of_83 Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:47 pm
were the lowlifes who tried to ignite a car bomb yesterday in Times Square domestic terrorists or were they international?
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Domestic as you can get.
One of the alphabet agencies trying to draw attention away from the oil spill and remind us the boogey man is out there so we don’t question the steady erosion of privacy and freedom.
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we should pay attention if another country brings the fight over here u will wish u paid attention nd we will be in trouble
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Your argument(?) makes no sense.
Listen pal. we’re already IN trouble because people like you aren’t paying attention.
D.C. has been taken over by multi national corporations. These monopolies are operating on a GLOBAL level meaning there is little to no regulation. What regulation there is is owned by said multi national corps.
Theres more going on than the Republican media party line.
The erosion of our privacy and freedoms IS the biggest threat this country faces.
The very fabric of the Constitution is being torn all in the name of “safety”.
Thats an illusion.
Englands the most wired nation on earth. Hasn’t saved them. Won’t save us.
Only the gov. and multi national corps benefits from all this masssive tech they’re building with our tax money to spy on us.
WAKE UP.
You’ve been had…
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:05 pm
I don’t think Chicago would trade for Frye or Boller when they could get guys like Jon Kitna, Jeff Garcia, Joey Harrington & J.P. Losman for nothing in free agency …
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:06 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:05 pm
I don’t think Chicago would trade for Frye or Boller when they could get guys like Jon Kitna, Jeff Garcia, Joey Harrington & J.P. Losman for nothing in free agency …
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There is indeed an plethora of crappy QBs available.
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:07 pm
higgins no and CJ maybe
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:08 pm
AFC West is the busted foot receiver division.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AgnMC6IjdHuGvMQfLqfRrUlDubYF?slug=ap-broncos-replacingmarshall
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Chris Chase calls Irvin on his hypocrisy.
YES!!!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Michael-Irvin-talks-with-Dez-Bryant-about-respon?urn=nfl,238243&post_comment=1&success=1
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:15 pm
later gents. work to do
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:15 pm
There is indeed an plethora of crappy QBs available
r u calling jeff garcia crappy we would have made a big difference as our starter
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:26 pm
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
“What Nnamdi’s tactful enough not to say and what Woodsen and Sapp don’t understand is that by NOT rolling coverage and by NOT having Nnamdi shadow the X the Raiders ARE getting an advantage.”
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:29 pm
the_big_one_of_83 Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:15 pm
There is indeed an plethora of crappy QBs available
r u calling jeff garcia crappy we would have made a big difference as our starter
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Indeed I am calling Jeffy a crappy QB.
Once upon a time he could play.
His last miracle with Philly was years ago and he had a Championship caliber competetive team to lead.
Old and busted.
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Garcia should retire for good if he isn’t alreasdy.
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Man, There is a lot bull crap comments in todays post. Way to go Raider Nation!
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:47 pm
L.A. Raider Dave, you need to change your name. L.A. sucks dude. The Raiders belong in Oakland!
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Anthony Montgomery (DT for the Redskins) was released today.
6′6″ 315 lbs. 26 years old
5th rounder in 2006.
played in 42 games for Washington, making 22 starts
any interest from Raider Nation ???
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:54 pm
They can play whereever and i’ll still love them; but if you prefer to stay in Oakland over L.A., then you belong there.
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:55 pm
315 is too light. Need at least 350!
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Were real up here in Oaktown. Your just a bunch of phony plastic people who don’t give a crap about sports.
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:00 pm
5pm in Podunk. later gents!
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:02 pm
This blog is weak sauce today!
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Were real up here in Oaktown. Your just a bunch of phony plastic people who don’t give a crap about sports.
guess you never went to the LA Raider games or Dodger games, those are the real LA fans. Laker games are the way they are because common people can’t afford to go. But why explain, you sound pretty ignorant
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Oaktown Hustler, your “keeping it real”!
Real stupid!!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:06 pm
What are you talking about? I remember the stadium being empty half the time. Laker fans only go to games to be seen.
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Oaktown 4 eva b*tches!
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:11 pm
You have no football team in LA. LMAO
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:11 pm
This is what LA sports is all about:
http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/m/david_beckham_la_galaxy_130707/david_beckham_la_galaxy_18_wenn1453832.jpg
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:11 pm
I hope you stay in Oaktown for ever. Hater!
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Why would I leave?
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:15 pm
If Oaktown is so “Real” why dont ALL the Raider games sell out? Why is Mt. Davis empty by week 8. I drive up there to see them and I wonder where all the locals are. You probably havent even been to a game since they moved back.
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:17 pm
The stands are empty because the team is terrible and the tickets are too expensive. We don’t have your kind of cash up her in Oaktown. We have to spend our money on feeding our children instead of plastic surgery.
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:26 pm
The stands are empty because the team is terrible and the tickets are too expensive. We don’t have your kind of cash up her in Oaktown. We have to spend our money on feeding our children instead of plastic surgery.
Oakland isn’t the only place there are poor people, you been to South central? East LA? It’s all the same thing. Hardly any real LA fans go to the Laker games because of what you just said too expensive. But the Dodgers are top 2 in attendance year in and year out and those aren’t the richy rich type. Raider games had good attendance but the Coliseum holds 100,000 people so the stadium looked empty.
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Inonewordraider….your wasting your time. We can prove all kinds of points to this guy, but he’s just going to hate either way. One good thing to know is that Oakland has a lot of cool people that I’ve met since going up there to see games and this guys just a ignorant foolio thats the exception.
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:36 pm
I feel sorry for you chumps having to live in LA.
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:40 pm
– Lamarr Houston, the second-round pick out of Texas who will be in the defensive line rotation at end, will get in his share of scrapes this year. When teams hit the Raiders for a big run and he’s on the field, he’s going to hit back.
He’s one of those “play to the whistle’’ types _ which means once in awhile he’ll play beyond it.
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I wish all our defenders had this mentality. We need hard tacklers that put a hurting on people. Make offenses fear playing the Raiders again!
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:43 pm
That boy going to bust some heads!
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Oaktown Hustler Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:36 pm
I feel sorry for you chumps having to live in LA.
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????????
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:45 pm
For real!! Hopefully Mike Mitchell gets some PT. He loves to hit people too.
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:47 pm
If you guys ever want to move up her, I got a friend who is a real estate agent. I can get you the hook-up!
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Hahaha…I would never want to live anywhere but Southern Cali!
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:54 pm
I see Eddie Anderson is STILL playing saftey for the Raiders!
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:56 pm
I’m out. Gotta get my hustle on!
May 3rd, 2010 at 4:27 pm
—”Seahawks signed OL Joe Toledo, formerly of the Seahawks”—
man I just love that sentence…
May 3rd, 2010 at 4:37 pm
# L.A. Raider Dave Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:54 pm
I see Eddie Anderson is STILL playing safety for the Raiders!
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Good Observation. On point no less.
May 3rd, 2010 at 4:55 pm
#761. LMAO.
Yeah, Eddie Anderson thing is weird. Is he like a liason for Uncle Al?
May 3rd, 2010 at 5:00 pm
# L.A. Raider Dave Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 4:55 pm
#761. LMAO.
Yeah, Eddie Anderson thing is weird. Is he like a liason for Uncle Al?
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Eddie Anderson is the new Randy Hanson, he has the same job, being a spook for Al…
May 3rd, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Hopefully Cable doesnt have to break his jaw. LOL
May 3rd, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Dez Bryant received his apology phone call from Miami Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland for asking Bryant if his mother was a prostitute.
Ireland should have made one more call.
To Bryant’s mother, Angela.
“No, he has not called,”‘ Angela Bryant said on Monday morning in a telephone interview from Dallas. “I think he should have. Why wouldn’t you do that?”
May 3rd, 2010 at 5:35 pm
two words…
Jack Bauer…
seven words…
will save the United States of America…
one word…
AGAIN !!!
(tonight on fox)
May 3rd, 2010 at 5:36 pm
# L.A. Raider Dave Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Hopefully Cable doesnt have to break his jaw. LOL
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LOL, if Eddie Anderson keeps on sending Routt in when the DC doesnt want him on the field Cable better break his jaw =) Routt’s too =)
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:45 pm
Eddie Anderson has a wire in his ear linked to Big Al.
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:00 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:08 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
JLH regressed about as bad as Russell last year.
Terrible routes and danced like Bo Jangles in the return game.
Weeeeeaaaaaak….
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Maybe you arent paying attention enough my friend…..JLH didnt get real aignificant time until week 10…..lol Terrible routes? OK now we are reaching
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Chokie Lee was terrible in every aspect of the game last year. He really has not played like a 3rd rounder. He played in 15 games last year, had 5 times as many starts as Todd Watkins, yet only caught twice as many balls, with NO TD’s. If you want more evidence he’s a joke, do any of you know who lead the Raiders in fumbles last year? Russell, of course. Who was 2nd? A tie between Gradkowski and McFumblor. Those are believable stats. Who was 3rd in fumbles? Chokie lee. Get rid of him. And have him take Routt with him.
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:01 pm
· Seymour Bush Says:
March 26th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
And hasn’t Thomas Clayton actually led the Whiners in rushing the last two seasons? Wack-o you HAVE TO TRY to be this STUPID. No one could be as stupid as you naturally.=============
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:02 pm
I’m sorry Oakglen/SeyDebo??
Who? Clayton? I don’t think he’s taken a single snap..You sure, pumpkin?
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
The Whiners drafted Glen Coffee in the 3rd round last year and he proved to be basically a bust. Thomas Clayton lead the Whiners in rushing the last two years before this one you complete utter dummass, but you didn’t know that did you? RB is on the top of the Whiner wish list asswipe.
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Uh….Crappola for Brains?
Clayton has ZERO STATS in the NFL..you know…NADA..like your ability to try and think of something original…ZIP..like your chances of actually coming out just once without looking like a moron…ZERO..which sums up your life…ZILCH, which is what you leave those skank bars with each night.
Damn..sucks to be you, pumpkin, lol
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:08 pm
I post at 7:00 and within one minute, there you are richochet. Are you stalking me? Have I finally fritzed your brain once and for all? Or have you finally been exposed as a Whiner dik sucking troll who no one gives a fook about? Or is all three right?
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:09 pm
# Florida Pete Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 5:35 pm
two words…
Jack Bauer…
seven words…
will save the United States of America…
one word…
AGAIN !!!
(tonight on fox)
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One word…
LEMMING.
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:09 pm
You STILL on Thomas Clayton? Don’t really get it do you pumpkin. But hey, your depression medicine makes you stupid doesn’t it.
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:10 pm
How bout dem Whiners richochet? How are they looking? You going to Raider game in Candlestick wearing your Steve Young jersey richochet?
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Poor poor richochet. I have fritzed his mind. Sucks to be you pumpkin. hahahahaha
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Sorry have to go to rehearsal. See you in the big time richochet!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:13 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:08 pm
I post at 7:00 and within one minute, there you are richochet. Are you stalking me? Have I finally fritzed your brain once and for all? Or have you finally been exposed as a Whiner dik sucking troll who no one gives a fook about? Or is all three right?
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Even a freaking moron knows that in this case it’s a coincidence because it’s ONLY ONE MINUTE, you fool..I happened to typing your slapdown the same time you were…you’re my puppy…you live for me…it’s a proven fact that at least 20 times I post..and MINUTES LATER, there you are…because you’re my puppy..
And a fun little puppy you are, pumpkin.
Hey…so how long you been with that 15 year old?
You two getting serious?
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Oh yeah, lol…you’re 48 and going to “rehearsal” lol…of course you are, Oakdork…
Tell us more about your 15 year old from Cuba
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Or was that 15 year old from Belize?
Can’t remember…can you?
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:16 pm
it was very touch and go there for a while…
but Jack Bauer did, in fact, save the United States of America….
again…
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:17 pm
# new englandraider Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:15 pm
someone up there wrote that (i think) that TK played NT in 06. that is nowhere near accurate, TK played end until 08
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Hahahahaha clam chowder……you obviously weren’t paying attention in 2006….Tommy Kelly was playing at 330 lbs next to Warren Sapp as the UT……The DEs that year were Lance Johnstone and Derrick Burgess
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:19 pm
LOL @ the Sey/Rich feud…….why dont yal just get into a boxing ring…maybe you can entertain us better than Mosley and Mayweather did this past weekend
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:22 pm
# Florida Pete Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:16 pm
it was very touch and go there for a while…
but Jack Bauer did, in fact, save the United States of America….
again…
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I don’t believe you….HOWEVER…I do have 24 in my queue on Netflix On Demand, from season one on, so I’ll soon know if you’re correct in laying your “I am not worthy” at Jack’s feet…
America?
All of America???
In one day????
this I have to see…
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:24 pm
# The Return of Godliness Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:19 pm
LOL @ the Sey/Rich feud…….why dont yal just get into a boxing ring…maybe you can entertain us better than Mosley and Mayweather did this past weekend
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Tom and Jerry is a better matchup than that was…the second round buckling of the knees not withstanding.
Besides, Oakglenn said he’s going out with a guy half his age…and he stated he’s 30…so…15???
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:25 pm
maybe it was a girl half his age, lol….not sure
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:29 pm
LOL my god too funny………not as funny as Cavs taking this L on the chin right now….all good I expected a real good series……still got Cleveland and their corporate whore getting a title
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Oh well………i may be back on later…..hopefully this phx/sa game is better
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Richocet,
Fl Pete is under the impression I need your help to give SeymourGlen a smackdown.
Your comments?
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:30 pm
Ballet?
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Seymour Bush Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Sorry have to go to rehearsal
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:47 pm
The Broncos new WR goes by Bay-Bay?? Are u friggin kidding me? Can you say South Park?
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Bay-Bay, that’s the name of my girlfriend.
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Richochet and Seymour Bush are the same person.
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Nnamdi21
read “Why your world is about to get a whole lot smaller” by Jeff Rubin.
Cheap oil is a bygone myth and there is only expensive/risky oil left in the finite planet of earth.
Eye-opening, and disasters in the Gulf are not only expected, but inevitable.
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:56 pm
Oaktown Hustler Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Richochet and Seymour Bush are the same person.
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Now I’ve officially heard everything
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Bebe’s kids was a good movie.
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Random Drug Tester,
There’s plenty of free oil in the Gulf of Mexico right now…
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:01 pm
scrolling backwards…I see that I missed nothing other than Richochet/Seymour-Love quarrels, and…
The Return of Godliness Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:17 pm
# new englandraider Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:15 pm
someone up there wrote that (i think) that TK played NT in 06. that is nowhere near accurate, TK played end until 08
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Hahahahaha clam chowder……you obviously weren’t paying attention in 2006….Tommy Kelly was playing at 330 lbs next to Warren Sapp as the UT……The DEs that year were Lance Johnstone and Derrick Burgess
…True, true, true, true, true.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Robin Harris was dumb ass funny…
RIP…
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Raider fans know football and the Raiders.
The rest are cut and paste bloggers who jump on cut and paste things.
Talk and know Raiders….or shut-up!
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Wasn’t Ronin Harris a nose tackle?
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Kirk…there will be for another year too…ain’t that hilarious.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Tommy Kelly was very good at DE.
He’s just a little above average at DT.
Still not sure why we moved him from DE to DT…
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Out of my Canadian curiousity for American things…whose fault is it for the disaster in the Gulf of Mexico.
Democrats or Republicans?
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:07 pm
So, what’s the deal with these skinny jeans? When I was a kid, guys tried their hardest not to look like a homosexual. Nowadays, everyone’s looking gay. I guess that what happens when you have a liberal media.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Al Davis is putting together a team that can play man-to-man with the “front-seven”…3 or 4 lineman, and 3 or 4 LB’s to take on the 5 olinemen and TE and FB.
Hopefully, their QB cannot run. We have their WR’s and Rb covered with a S to tackle their RB.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Oaktown Hustler…sounds like you had a hard time not looking gay
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:16 pm
Oh, I sure don’t wear no skinny jeans. No sir. I wear my drawers baggy and low.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Out of my Canadian curiousity for American things…whose fault is it for the disaster in the Gulf of Mexico.
Democrats or Republicans?
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The british
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:18 pm
well then…you are not definitely not gay…even though your pants fall off easily, for anyone, and you can’t run away
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:19 pm
How do you wear your pants, Random Drug Tester?
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:20 pm
JLH is a good slot receiver who has made plays.
DHB hasn’t made ONE doggone play all year!
And JLH is much cheaper and actually has caught the ball.
The depth chart if draft status didn’t mean anything:
Schilens
Murphy
JLH
DHB
Ford
Watkins
Of course Ford would be pushing DHB because DHB can’t catch the ball
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:21 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Out of my Canadian curiousity for American things…whose fault is it for the disaster in the Gulf of Mexico.
Democrats or Republicans?
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The british
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no problems then, BP will make you “whole”…just like Exxon did for the people in Alaska.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Oaktown Hustler Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:19 pm
How do you wear your pants, Random Drug Tester?
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securely
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:22 pm
SnB I like that depth chart. Imagine if we took Monroe over DHB. We would be much more set, with our WRs like Schilens
Murphy
Higgins
Ford
Watkins
some other guy from camp, Yamon Figurs or Nick Miller.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:23 pm
That’s hot.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Schilens is not a starter…too fragile
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:25 pm
to an Oaktown Hustler maybe…where I come from, low and baggy means “I don’t know how to dress myself”
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:27 pm
do you where you baseball cap “sideways” too?
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:28 pm
where = wear
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:28 pm
I don’t where baseball caps. I prefer Kangol.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:30 pm
sorry..is “Kangol” an Oaktown thang?
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:30 pm
This is my favorite hat. I like it because it is Raider colors:
http://www.hatsinthebelfry.com/product/kangol-tri-stripe-504-K0238CO.html
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:31 pm
thanks for the link…didn’t know that was called a Kangol
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 pm
needs a Raider Shield in my opinion
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:33 pm
Schilens is to the NFL what Greg Oden is to the NBA
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:34 pm
I for one, would not want to have to count on Schilens
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Murphy in my opinion is the only player we have at WR
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Random Drug Tester,
BP will pay some heavy fine, the money will never make it to the fisherman and tour operators who will lose their jobs…and the Gulf will recover in a decade or so.
That’s life. Americans, and the world, use fossil fuels to power cars, trucks, heat, plastics and all sorts of stuff.
Unless these alternative fuels/energies become affordable for the average person, these issues will continue to happen.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:37 pm
I agree, Murphy is the best receiver on this team. Had we a competent O.C and QB, Murphy would have had a breakout year
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:37 pm
If Seymour doesn’t play DT this year…we are without a true DT.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:38 pm
SnB…move on from fossil fuels, the rest of the world is trying to, USA should do the same.
Bush et al have made all the money they can from that old game.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:41 pm
the OIL game is a losing strategy…too risky, all gone. It can’t be sustained anymore, get GREEN, your children are being taught that (or should be) and it’s time for everyone else to realize it.
The Oil Barons are dinosaurs we can’t afford anymore.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:37 pm
If Seymour doesn’t play DT this year…we are without a true DT.
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I will be interested to see how this works. Cable said the NT candidates are Kelly and Bryant.
The Raiders are trying to be like the Colts. Problem is our offense does not, and in my humble opinion, is not capable of scoring at a pace that would force the opponent to go away from our weakness.
We’ll see…I am skeptical…but will keep an open mind I guess
BTW, I think Shaughnessy is heading to the bench. Seymour and Houston are the Defensive Ends.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:44 pm
‘Drill Baby Drill’, that’s my motto. Drill right into that sweet and moist crude until you can’t drill no mo.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Cut Russell – Sign TO
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:44 pm
There is no need for 3 shifts a day producing brand new cars 24/7/365 that only big budget movies can afford to blow-up in spectacular special-effect movies anymore.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Random Drug Tester,
I think people would love to move on from fossil fuels…but the problem is that things electric cars, hybrids, solar panels..etc are not affordable for the average person.
Until those technologies become efficient and affordable, they will remain in the domain of science fiction.
also, I would love for some of these folks to practice what they preach. Take public transit, if its reliable….stop living in the 3,000 sq ft home and move into a modest flat….but a lot of these upper middle class environmentalists and so-called leaderss fly private jets live in huge houses and eat imported food.
Like Barry White said…”Practice what you Preach”
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Oaktown Hustler Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:44 pm
‘Drill Baby Drill’, that’s my motto. Drill right into that sweet and moist crude until you can’t drill no mo.
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been done already…can’t drill no mo.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:47 pm
I’m out. Got to go do some drilling.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:47 pm
BTW, I think alternative energy will take hold…probably in another 15 to 20 years.
Its just not efficient enough yet…..and people are not willing to downscale their standard of living
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:48 pm
subsidize those things instead of giving tax-breaks and subsidies to the the auto-makers and/or having Oil Barons as President.
See how much things change then.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:48 pm
meant to paste this in before my last one….
I think people would love to move on from fossil fuels…but the problem is that things electric cars, hybrids, solar panels..etc are not affordable for the average person.
Until those technologies become efficient and affordable, they will remain in the domain of science fiction.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:51 pm
also, I would love for some of these folks to practice what they preach. Take public transit, if its reliable….stop living in the 3,000 sq ft home and move into a modest flat….but a lot of these upper middle class environmentalists and so-called leaderss fly private jets live in huge houses and eat imported food.
Like Barry White said…”Practice what you Preach”
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you have to be very wary of these things in Canada, or you get voted out. And there is more than 1 alternative to vote for if you do, that helps.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Oil is what it is…
The auto makers employ a LOT of people! The reason the auto makers were bailed out was because the U.S was staring at over 1 million unemployed in a time of economic crisis..
also, the infrastructure for public transit is poor and the average person has no appetite to invest in it. Same in Canada, where the infrastructure is more U.S like than it is European like.
Until average people are willing to get behind this…nothing will substantively change until the technology stands on its own.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:54 pm
You Americans are so dependent on Oil, largely because your leadership says to be, that you don’t know any other way. There are other ways, but lobbyists and your Presidents have squashed them.
There are technologies available that allow carborateurs to produce 200 mphs that have never hit the market because it’s “not good for business”
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Random Drug Tester,
We don’t have multiple choices in the USA.
We are ruled by a one-party system that markets itself as two…..
Not too unlike China
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:56 pm
transfer those automaker jobs to the public transit and to infrastructure making…no difference in the number of jobs. Only in who makes money off of it.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:58 pm
your government is not operating in the best interests of the people it is supposed to represent.
It is up to you people to change that, not wait for them to decide on their own what the right thing to do is.
Americans are supposed to be known for that, remember the 60’s?
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:59 pm
Random Drug Tester,
Americans and Canadians, for that matter, have historically lived in wide open spaces. In Europe and Asia, space is a premium as is size…so you have to pay a huge premium to get a bigger house or a bigger car to drive down smaller streets.
Also, the public transit in those countries are superior…even China.
America has a third world public transit system. It would take Billions…maybe more…to build the rail system to connect the country at the same quality that others are doing it.
Plus, Americans, for better or for worse, generally have a distrust of large government projects…plus as a nation we are not capable of managing and executing large intiatives because our leadership pool is awful.
America will respond to conditions when it hurts….like when gas prices went up to 4 or 5 dollars and people started changing behavior.
Legal fiat won’t get it done…only cold hard economics
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:58 pm
your government is not operating in the best interests of the people it is supposed to represent.
It is up to you people to change that, not wait for them to decide on their own what the right thing to do is.
Americans are supposed to be known for that, remember the 60’s
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Our political system is just like WWE Raw…its not capable of being changed…only in crisis.
Americans know the system is crummy…but we don’t trust each other to do anything big….that blue state vs. red state is very real
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:03 pm
Eisenhower was so far ahead of his time that it is truly scary that I guy like him is still today the voice of reason.
America has a Constitution and Bill of Rights that protects you from a Government that is not operating in the best interests of the people and yet, it is the worst offender of that right.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:08 pm
The basic premise of cold hard economics is that “man will strive to maximize his own satisfaction”…given that, as long as you take it, you will continue take it.
If you want it to change, change your behaviour. Screw around with the Primary’s, screw with the whole political process.
If you don’t follow along, they don’t have a mandate.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Random Drug Tester,
The government is only as good as the people are informed and choose to be informed.
Too many Americans only have a pedestrian interest in politics..and the commercialization and marketing has made it such that candidates are blow dried and presented without really being challenged or questioned.
America has some of the finest Universities in the world. Yet the only people that get elected are hacks, lawyers most of them…or well-connected people through birth.
Until people start voting for the candidate and not the commercial face of the same damn party…we will continue to sputter along.
The country is a shell of its former self.
Our parents and grandparents were great people. They fought a complicated wars that defeated tyranny, they fought and pioneered civil rights (Al Davis played his small part), and we put man on the moon with less technology that is available in your cell phone and helped rebuild the world
Somewhere, Americans lost interest in those types of things and got complacent….then our POS leaders took advantage of TV and marketing and turned the political process into a joke.
America will get out of its rut…we just have to go through some of the pain we are now…like not being able to write up a decent home loan
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:12 pm
Not to sound to Nationalistic or anything, but if we in Canada had to choose between Palin, Billary, McCain or Obama…we would have voted for the Rhino Party or the Green Party just to show our disdain for the supposed Incumbents shenanigans.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:14 pm
looks like eurotrash political hour in here.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:15 pm
we should switch to hydrogen you can make it in your own house. then again thats why we’d never switch to it because gas stations would go out of business.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Canada lives off the benefit of being the United states little brother. Hardly any money goes to your military when you got the US backing you up.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:16 pm
you are exactly right SnB…currently our “Liberal” party is trying to raise the “fee” for running for head of the Liberal Party to $500,000.00 just to keep the “undesirables” from being able to run.
They have lost a lot of votes already for mentioning it and will have a hard time staying alive as viable political party.
Ask the Progressive Conservatives about what happens to a Party that takes Canadian people for granted.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:18 pm
PassTheCheetos Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Canada lives off the benefit of being the United states little brother. Hardly any money goes to your military when you got the US backing you up.
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Go sell that crap to someone that buys that…we need you to protect us from fights that you start…Oh OK!
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:19 pm
All hail the United States of Mafia Extortion
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:19 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Americans know the system is crummy…but we don’t trust each other to do anything big….that blue state vs. red state is very real
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The divison is those who believe their lies and those who see thru.
The truth is they work at dividing us. Too busy fighting each other to take on them.
The truth the new racism is the haves and the have nots and the distances grows exponentially while we wait for someone to tell us what to do.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Our economy stands on it’s own…we don’t have to create internal turmoil and strife in other countries to keep their eyes off of our hands pick-pocketing them to the point where they want to kill us.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:22 pm
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May 3rd, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Nnamdi21…read “Why Your World is About to get a Whole Lot Smaller” by Jeff Rubin.
He is and has been right on about a lot of things.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:24 pm
849. All true.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:25 pm
Peace out and goodnight guys.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:25 pm
The governments biggest threat is a well-educated electorate.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:25 pm
Nnamdi21,
I am not sure I completely agree. Americans of all political persuasions have to demand better.
How about real political debates instead of these marketing shows….Truth is, before all the commericalization, Americans of all walks of life were very engaged in their politics….back when candidates had to go out and meet people in the street without the benefit of image consultants and 24 hour noise channels spewing misinformation (both parties)
How about reading position papers…researching positins…not listening to stupid commercials or listening to party news station (Fox or MSNBC)
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:25 pm
The governments biggest threat is a well-educated electorate.
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Slightly disagree…..the biggest threat is a disengaged electorate.
Being well-educated is not necessarily a prerequisite for being informed about the issues
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:28 pm
Some of the most disengaged are the educated people….too busy doing what busy people do to get involved…or like me..just disgusted at the overall baffoonery
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:29 pm
SnB, maybe you need to talk to your friends and enlighten them, so they can talk to their other friends and enlighten them, and so on…and so on.
Just like in the olden days.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:30 pm
change well-educated for well-informed
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:31 pm
gotta say g’night…have to work tomorrow so I can pay the highest taxes in the world.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:33 pm
BTW…the Raiders are looking better than they have in years!!!
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:35 pm
# PassTheCheetos Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Canada lives off the benefit of being the United states little brother. Hardly any money goes to your military when you got the US backing you up.
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Not only that, but…
The U.S. is Canada’s largest foreign investor.
Statistics Canada reports that at the end of 2007, the stock of U.S. foreign direct investment in Canada was $289 billion, or about 59% of total foreign direct investment in Canada.
In 2008, 75% of Canada’s exports went to the U.S.
Without the U.S., there would be no Canada.
Random Drug Tester Says:
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Our economy stands on it’s own
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Whatever.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:36 pm
How about reading position papers…researching positins…not listening to stupid commercials or listening to party news station (Fox or MSNBC)
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Unfortunately in our great country, when look for political “news” they are looking for affirmation not information.
If it doesn’t jive with how they feel, the majority just change the station or scoff and question the validity of it all.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:53 pm
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May 4th, 2010 at 12:10 am
880. Very astute observation Vegas.
May 4th, 2010 at 8:07 am
The very presence of Russell and Hayward Bey, representing Al’s colossal misjudgement, remains a disgrace. I’m convinced he had very little to to with the first four or five picks this year. And if none of his late round CB projects pan out, f him. Get him in a home pronto.
May 5th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
”I could give a flying crap about the political process … We’re an entertainment company.”
—FOX News Channel’s Glen Beck, Forbes interview, April, 2010
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