Ice Cube: Raiders will always belong to L.A.
By Jon Becker
Tuesday, May 11th, 2010 at 11:08 am in Oakland Raiders.
Don’t forget to check out ESPN at 5 p.m. PDT today for the showing of “Straight Outta L.A.,” Ice Cube’s documentary about the Raiders in Los Angeles.
Our Chuck Barney has seen the piece and here’s what he thinks.
Chuck points out that Ice Cube has this to say about Oakland’s NFL team: “The silver and black might call another place home, but the Raiders will always belong to L.A.”
What do you guys think?
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May 11th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Oakland Raiders!
May 11th, 2010 at 11:09 am
1st!
May 11th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Go Raiders
May 11th, 2010 at 11:10 am
doh!
May 11th, 2010 at 11:13 am
It is no coincidence that Al hired Hue, a coach that comes from a well run professional organization and suddenly we have a draft that looks like it was done by a well run professional organization.
There is a reason Hue Jackson turned down the Bears OC position for the Raiders…he has been given some enticement to get him to come to Oakland…Al knew he could get Hue on as OC on the cheap and then not have to fire Cable and pay two HCs this season. Hue knows Cable is on thin ice and that in all likelihood Cable will be out after 2010 and Hue will be in the catbird’s seat to take over.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Sad news week
May 11th, 2010 at 11:14 am
I mean it, go. That way I’ll be able to see home games on TV.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:16 am
PHUCK Ice Cube!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 11th, 2010 at 11:16 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 11:08 am
Cable is a better fit for this team than any coach since Gruden.
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First, that is not saying much, even if it were true and second, just because we are on a down turn the past seven years doesn’t mean we should look for a coach that is also a good fit because of his perchance for losing (20-44 record as a HC).
May 11th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Pure conjuncture on your part,Dakota-and wishful thinking I believe.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:18 am
OAKLAND RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 11th, 2010 at 11:19 am
Ice Cube is right.
The Raiders belong in LA. Oakland fans can’t afford to go to the games. At least those who show up in LA have a buck or two to buy a hotdog. And once Al is gone and Marc sells the team and the team is moved into the new LA stadium we will finally be an attractive destination for quality free agents, not these mentally unstable or injury riddled losers that are simply looking for one last sucker to give them a contract that we get in Oakland.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Agreed. the Raider belong in Oakland
… or Podunk!
HAHAHA
KC & STL have NFL teams already.
College ball has the Tigers in Columbia
Springfield Raiders?
May 11th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Ice Cube is obviously on drugs.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Dakota Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 11:12 am
It is no coincidence that Al hired Hue, a coach that comes from a well run professional organization and suddenly we have a draft that looks like it was done by a well run professional organization.
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Would Hue have taken DMAC or Clady? Print that.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Let’s start a BACK TO LA drive for the Raiders!
Come on guys! We can do it!
May 11th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Phuck Cube!!!!!!!!
May 11th, 2010 at 11:23 am
I’m happy the Raiders have history in L.A. because it grew our fan base in socal and for that, we dominate California in fans and its great because the Charger/Raider games in San Diego become Oakland South…thats awesome.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Once again Dakota speaks out of his a$$.While they may move back to la-la land when Davis dies,they SHOULD remain in Oakland.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:24 am
So I scooped Corkran. Huzzah for BSJ.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Introducing the new owner of the L.A. Raiders…Ed Roski!!!!
May 11th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Ed Roski
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what about Rush?
May 11th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Dakota Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 11:19 am
Ice Cube is right.
… we will finally be an attractive destination for quality free agents, not these mentally unstable or injury riddled losers that are simply looking for one last sucker to give them a contract that we get in Oakland.
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The bogus free agent signings have STOPPED now that Cable is GM!
May 11th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Phuck all u Cable haters!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah I said it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 11th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Well im from LA and i had to go to the games and basically avoid gunfights..lol but the raiders belong in oakland. Thats where the original history started. Regardless thats just Ice Cube’s opinion. Who cares? Everybody knows the Raiders r from the bay.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Dakota Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 11:19 am
Ice Cube is right.
… we will finally be an attractive destination for quality free agents, not these mentally unstable or injury riddled losers that are simply looking for one last sucker to give them a contract that we get in Oakland.
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The bogus free agent signings have STOPPED now that Cable is GM!
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Wrong. Al ran out of the money he got for selling a portion of the team in 2007. That is why we haven’t signed any big money loser FAs the last two seasons.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Since when has Cable became the GM? He has a say but lets get real here…
May 11th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Al Davis is so paid. Slap urself
May 11th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Bo
No you scooped the MOD.. well done..
May 11th, 2010 at 11:31 am
So now you concede Cable is the GM? Gotcha…
May 11th, 2010 at 11:31 am
DMAC Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Phuck all u Cable haters!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah I said it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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We’ll see what you say about Cable this December…
May 11th, 2010 at 11:31 am
The Raiders should just kick the Chargers out of San Diego and take over the city. I’d be happy with that. The Chargers could go to Arizona or something.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Dakota,wrong again.Cable convinced him to quit wasting money on those has-beens.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:32 am
I like what Cable is doing as head coach though. He fits.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:32 am
The Chargers could go to Arizona or something.
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Phoenix Chargers?
LOL
May 11th, 2010 at 11:34 am
I repect and have love for the LA Raider fans after all we’re all one nation. But the Raiders belong in their birth place Oakland CA. Home of the counter-culture, Black Panther, Hell’s Angels, Ebonics, the Free Speech movement, Crack, Medical Marijuana,Barbara Lee (the only Crongress person to try to stand up to Bush after 911). When I grew up and the Raiders where in LA I still whore Oakland Raiders Gear, I use to listen to all the Jake the Snake stories from my dad. After Our first game back in Oakland in 95 Magic Johnson said, ” The Raiders belong in Oakland”
May 11th, 2010 at 11:34 am
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What?!
May 11th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 11:31 am
So now you concede Cable is the GM? Gotcha…
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Lol, sorry but no.
If the wife beating buffoon was our GM we would have already re-signed Fargas and K. Harris.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:35 am
JustWinBaby Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 11:32 am
I like what Cable is doing as head coach though. He fits.
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Why, because his losing % is so great?
May 11th, 2010 at 11:35 am
Elvis was a hero to most
But he never meant ******* to me you see
Straight up racist that sucker was
Simple and plain
********him and John Wayne
Cause I’m Black and I’m proud
I’m ready and hyped plus I’m amped
Most of my heroes don’t appear on no stamps
Sample a look back you look and find
Nothing but rednecks for 400 years if you check
May 11th, 2010 at 11:39 am
I’ll believe Cable had something to do with this offseason the day Al calls a presser and praises Cable for his contributions and gives him credit for everything.
Until then Lefty is just speculating.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:40 am
No becuase he is changing the losing ass culture. The players believe in him. He had the worst fn quaterback over half the season etc etc. He is doing ok. This yr there are no excuses i must admit. Average schedule, pieces in place…Who would u rather have as coach?
May 11th, 2010 at 11:40 am
GOOOOO LA RAIDERS!!!!!!
http://brodystevens.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/la_raiders.jpg
May 11th, 2010 at 11:41 am
LA was the demise of the Raider franchise.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Since Cable has came along there is something different. I think he is one person that can actually fit in Oakland with Uncel Al.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Cable slapped his wife over 20 years ago,admits he made a mistake and Dakota holds it against him forever.Yet he defends someone who sexually assaults/rapes someone like Bryant and Ben.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:42 am
JustWinBaby,
Well, Cable has certainly painted himself into a corner by claiming we would have made the playoffs if he didn’t have to deal with Russell…now Russell is out and his excuse is gone, so if we don’t make the playoffs Cable should resign the day the season ends.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:42 am
O’Shea Jackson helped originate gangsta rap
-Wiki
May 11th, 2010 at 11:43 am
It doesn’t matter to me where the Raiders play. Just as long as it’s a nice stadium without any infield cut-outs.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Perhaps twenty years ago, Cable’s wife told him Dakota’s Greatest Lie…
May 11th, 2010 at 11:44 am
this shtt started in oakland and they came back home for a reason
May 11th, 2010 at 11:44 am
I can’t lie, being an 80’s baby, it was Tim Brown, Marcus Allen, Howie Long, Bo Jackson, the fact I loved playing with the Raiders on Tecmo Bowl, their colors, their mystique, and their place in the hip hop culture that made me fall in love with the Raiders myself as a youngster. And I grew up in the NorthEast where everyone was either a Giants/Jets/Pats fan. Even though I’m sure Cube is gonna have a lot of bias being from LA, I still can’t wait to watch tonight’s documentary.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Ice Cube is a punk ass b*tch! If that L.A. pansy ever comes up to Oaktown, I will be the first to get gansta on his fat ass.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Lefty, only someone who has hit a woman before defends wife beaters…you fit that bill huh?
Show me one example where I ever supported a convicted rapist….oh you can’t can you! Sorry bro.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:45 am
I dont know about resign but i do believe that this yr if we dont win at least 8 or 9 games its a total dissapointment and that will start with Cable. ‘The AFC is so tough i wanna start preaching playoffs but imma start with saying they need to win 8 or 9 games
May 11th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Being from Oakland, I’m glad they came back home. Whether it has or will work out in the end who knows,…
About 6 years ago while visiting my wife’s family in the Eastern part of Germany in a small town of about 30000 that was 80% destroyed during the war, I came across a Los Angeles Raiders cap in a rinky dink CD store in the main town sqquare. Of course I had to buy it. And on another trip to Naples Italy, I road the local subway and sitting across from me was a older man with a Raiders jacket.
Oakland or LA, one thing is for sure, the Raider brand is in fact global.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:46 am
raiders could stay in oak for all i care. no blackouts here, plus i can always go to games when i want in oak or sd and arizona this year.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:47 am
I was born and raised in Oakland, and have to admit growing up an LA Raider fan. Don’t hate LA Raider fans, it just made us a stronger nation. Just glad the Oakland Raiders are back where they belong!
May 11th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Is this article even worth the virtual paper that it’s written on? Now we have Jerry playing troll and adding fuel just to stir crap up.
Does anyone give a crap what Ice Cube has to say anyway? Let’s throw his ass in a cage match with MC Hammer — a proud OAKLAND Raiders supporter — and let Cube know that he can’t touch this!
May 11th, 2010 at 11:47 am
And moving to Louisville, KY made it even worse, ’cause there ain’t nothing but Colts, Bears, Browns, Rams and Titan fans there. I’ve been a Silver&Black loner my whole life until I finally moved out here to SoCal after college. And a lot of what Cube is gonna say tonight should be right on the money, ’cause it’s that Raider mystique that made me proud as a fan and felt like I was always stronger than the rest of the bunches around me throughout my life.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:48 am
Oaktown Hustler Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Ice Cube is a punk ass b*tch! If that L.A. pansy ever comes up to Oaktown, I will be the first to get gansta on his fat ass.
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sure dik, whatcha gonna do, ghost ride da whip or get hyphy.lol
May 11th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Ice Cube is a punk ass b*tch! If that L.A. pansy ever comes up to Oaktown, I will be the first to get gansta on his fat ass.
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That means you too RaiderdoutL.A. and L.A. Dave!
May 11th, 2010 at 11:51 am
I doubt Ice Cube is saying that the Raiders truly belong to L.A. and NOT Oakland. I think he means that even though they’re gone and Oakland is their home, L.A. remains a part of their history & vice versa, so they will always belong to L.A. just as they belong to Oakland.
After all, isn’t that what Raider Nation is all about? I grew up in So. Cal while the Raiders were in L.A. and moved to San Jose in 2001, but the bottom line is that I’m not an L.A. or Oakland fan, I’m a Raiders fan.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:52 am
Exactly Dokie…
May 11th, 2010 at 11:52 am
Oaktown Hustler Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Ice Cube is a punk ass b*tch! If that L.A. pansy ever comes up to Oaktown, I will be the first to get gansta on his fat ass.
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That means you too RaiderdoutL.A. and L.A. Dave!
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yeah, alot of us L.A. guys are in your town for games and we don’t get no sh*t from anyone, just cuz u say so dosen’t mean its going to start happening now.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:53 am
first NFL game I saw was SB XVIII. Loved the black uniform cause it kinda reminded me of the Mean Machine. They were the LA Raiders then but you always heard about the old days in Oakland. Seems like Oakland is the wife and LA’s the mistress. Sooner or later you have to make a choice. I thought the choice was made but with the new stadium being built LA is hitching up her skirt again to see if the Raiders take notice.
I’ve got no alegience to either city so I don’t care. One nation I suppose.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Just don’t be coming up in my hood sporting any L.A. Raider gear.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:55 am
The Raiders should play a game or two in Dodger Stadium just to acknowledge their disparate fan base. But they are home in Oakland. The LA Colisseum was just SO DAMN WEAK!
May 11th, 2010 at 11:56 am
raiders should have one game here in L.A. once a year, but oh wait, we have the charger game in sd where we always outnumber them.lol
May 11th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Well said Dokie……..I moved to Cali about 4 years ago, but I grew up back East (CT, Long Island, and Kentucky – hell of a trio huh? Lol), and I’ve always been proud to see other members of the Raider Nation out and about….Raider road games out that way were so much fun ’cause you know Raider fans are fans that really give a crap about each other so you always feel at home.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:57 am
the only oakland team i am not a big fan of is the warriors
May 11th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Remember this crazy sh*t:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1066472/index.htm
I would have rather seen the Raiders in Irwindale than L.A.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Oaktown Hustler Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Just don’t be coming up in my hood sporting any L.A. Raider gear.
I agree, that would be disrespectful. I always liked the fact that a lot of Raiders merchandise during their time in L.A.–and even now– just said RAIDERS.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Oaktown u sound like an idiot
May 11th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Its about the raider shield not the city before the brand
May 11th, 2010 at 11:59 am
i would give u LA guys a preseason game in LA at the old colosiem
May 11th, 2010 at 11:59 am
I remember that. Cost a fortune to find out if it was feesable. Sacramento was mentioned too.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Dakota you have no say so in this at all. You can argue about Mt. Rushmore or something, but leave Raider history alone.
Bottom Line… The Raiders have been in existence for 50 years.
LA Raiders-13 years, 1 superbowl appearance resulting in 1 Championship.
Oakland Raiders-37 years, 4 superbowl appearances resulting in 2 championships.
You do the math. Nuff said.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
In 92′(in L.A.) four gangbangers told me to shut up while wearing their Cowboys gear. In Oakland that would never happen. In Oaktown, everyone in any section would have stood up and had my back. L.A. sucks in every way, so does ice cube.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Thanks to Ice Cube and gangster rap, I was able to get my hands on all the Raider’ gear I wanted back when I was in high school in the early 90s. I’m from Idaho where I had to watch the Seahawks every week. I really hated that team.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
I think Cable is doing OK as HC. He could have done a lot worse than he actually did last season and a half. Let’s see how things work out this year. If we end with 8 and 8 I’ll call it a big success.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Introducing your 2012 California Raiders!!!
Can’t we all get along?
- Rodney King (Raider fan)
May 11th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
post 82-Lmfao
May 11th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
raiders on otl espn now
May 11th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
If the Raiders played a game in Britain (I hate that word) they’d sell out.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Dokiewilliams Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Oaktown Hustler Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Just don’t be coming up in my hood sporting any L.A. Raider gear.
I agree, that would be disrespectful. I always liked the fact that a lot of Raiders merchandise during their time in L.A.–and even now– just said RAIDERS.
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I wore a Raider shirt almost every day in high school. I tried to get the ones that didn’t say L.A. on them because I believed the Raiders belonged in Oakland.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
I think Cable is doing OK as HC. He could have done a lot worse than he actually did last season and a half. Let’s see how things work out this year. If we end with 8 and 8 I’ll call it a big success.
its an un capped year so we need playoffs or cable goes at least a wild card
May 11th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Pluck Ice Cube if he thinks that the Raiders belong to LA. The Raiders belong to Oakland, the Bay and then the World. LA was a home, but not the home base.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
A.B. Paine II Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Thanks to Ice Cube and gangster rap, I was able to get my hands on all the Raider’ gear I wanted back when I was in high school in the early 90s. I’m from Idaho where I had to watch the Seahawks every week. I really hated that team.
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Somehow Tom Cable also became a Raider fan from the hinterlands of the northwest.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Everytime I think about the LA Raiders I think about that stupid track that went around the field. Even the front row seats were hella far.
Sometimes I use to think that that track was fitting for Al Davis.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Dakota Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 11:19 am
Ice Cube is right.
The Raiders belong in LA. Oakland fans can’t afford to go to the games. At least those who show up in LA have a buck or two to buy a hotdog. And once Al is gone and Marc sells the team and the team is moved into the new LA stadium we will finally be an attractive destination for quality free agents, not these mentally unstable or injury riddled losers that are simply looking for one last sucker to give them a contract that we get in Oakland.”
The Raiders NEVER sold out their games at the LA Coliseum, even when they were perrenial playoff contenders. There is too much indifference in LA. The Lakers are perfect for LA, let’s leave it at that.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Have you guys heard we are in trade talks with tennessee? They supposedly want chris johnson.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
they want to be like town cats la la land ha ha ha
May 11th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Dogg, the Coliseum was the reason for no sellouts. Sh!tty seats, atmosphere, views, parking, neighborhood…
May 11th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
BSJ-Cable was born in Merced,Ca.-Raider country!!!!!!!
May 11th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
JustWinBaby,
Do you have the source?
Would like to read about it.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
I can’t blame O’Shea Jackson for thinking the Raiders belong to LA, he just happens to be wrong.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
I remember Bo Jackson having to but thousands of tickets for a play-off game just to avoid a black-out. The colliseum held about 90,000. I doubt it sold out very often.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
JWB
bs nobody wants CJ
May 11th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
I’m a diehard Raider fan from LA and I definately don’t agree the Raiders belong to LA, the Raiders are still LA’s number one team but the Raiders don’t belong to Los Angeles
May 11th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
lefty12 Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
BSJ-Cable was born in Merced,Ca.-Raider country!!!!!!!
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High school in Everett, WA I think. Coll. in Idaho.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Have you guys heard we are in trade talks with tennessee? They supposedly want chris johnson.
for who not johnson
May 11th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
BSJ
regardless of venue, if the team is winning Super Bowls every damn sh!tty seat should be filled. Although 90,000+ tickets would be hard to fill every week…
May 11th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Ha-ha! In you’re dreams IceT. LA is where the downfall began. Just look at the numbers. From 17 years of sellouts with the Mad Bomber, Snake, the Mad Stork, etc to a half emtpy stadium with the likes of Jay Schroeder and Bob Buckowski… PUH-LEASE!! LA is also where the organization lost it’s blue-collar Eastbay roots and turned into the Halloween freak show which continues to this day because of the clowns who travel north for games. I do appreciate and like the idea that Ice is a Raider fan, but c’mon homey, when you’re up visiting the Bay just enjoy you’re brief respite from the the Third World.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
LA looks to get their own team
May 11th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Who wants whose CJ???
May 11th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Ice Cube is a typical L.A. Raider fan who knows nothing about where it all started. Too bad, I thought he was smarter than that.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
The post-1982 Raiders were outlaws?? You coulda fooled me. The 1968-1980, or so, Raiders were outlaws, renegades, colorful, and interesting. The Raiders were the best at it, but other teams had really interesting guys like that – and really interesting owners too. Those guys in LA were plain vanilla choir boys compared to the earlier teams. Maybe a guy here and there since then could have hung with those earlier guys, but they were (and are) few and far between.
The league legislated parity, they got it, and the NFL has been full of boring teams (and boring owners) ever since.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Raiders in LA = 16 road games a year
May 11th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
who is tennesse offering for chris johnson
May 11th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
The Raiders and Titans should swap Johnsons.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Raiders in LA!!!!
L.A. Raiders!!!!
May 11th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
The Oakland Raiders left for LA as the preeminent, most feared franchise in all of sport. They limped back home followed by a posse of gang banging zeroes, and others wearing makeup and beads. And you want them to go back there?
May 11th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Dakota, dont speak too soon, there are some big, big, money people looking to do a make over in the oakland colusium area. The same people that pulled off the revamp of Emeryville. The plan includes football only stadium, shopping, the whole nine yards. It was mentioned a few weeks ago in a small article, but what I’ve heard from a friend who works for alameda county that the venture is not too far off.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Later peoples!!!!!
May 11th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
just win wear did u hear this at
May 11th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Nostalgia:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3526/4078989920_6d2b05e127.jpg
May 11th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Don’t hate LA Raider fans, but we all know the Raiders belong in Oakland!
PEACE!!!!!
Raider Nation!!!!!
May 11th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
LA LA LA LA LA
RAIDERS!!!
May 11th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Which one of you guys had a hat like this? I know at least one of you was wearing this:
http://www.coatofarmsnyc.com/blizzog/wp-content/uploads/blizzogimages/2008/05/cimg3370.jpg
May 11th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
is it just smoke and mirrors or is it any truth to that
May 11th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
It’s going to be a good night. Watch the Ice Cube film, then watch the Celtics beat the Lebrons
May 11th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Darren McFadden, Michael Bush & CB Chris Johnson in exchange for the Titans RB Chris Johnson.
throw in Nick Miller & Marcel Reece to “sweeten” the deal
May 11th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
u guys are bigger usc fans than raider fans
May 11th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
He is a little man that sees no further than his own finite existence, the Raiders where in Oakland long before he popped into this world. Just because he discovered football while they were in LA means less than nothing.
I think he’s bucking for a return of the Raiders to LA is all, this is his marketing presentation.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Its funny that most of the Eastern teams can’t away from their home games
May 11th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
rockstar dont give up third down big bush and turn mc fadden into a josh cribbs kind of guy but every one else can go
May 11th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Ufk L.A.
What a sh-ite hole with too many materialistic, vapid azz holes.
OAKLAND Raiders y’all.
Bad azz, tough azz nails. Thats Oakland, thats the Raiders.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Ice cube said what he feels about the raiders and LA.
However he is WRONG.
That’s just him loving the raiders and loving LA.
It’s OAKLAND RAIDERS.
LA was just a phase.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
later gents. see ya in the AM!
May 11th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
#87
I’m with you big_one, but last year 5-11 and this year a p-o wild card looks like a reeeeaaal stretch to me… Hell i’m happy if we make it, but really I don’t think it will be possible.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
At the raiderbeat chat post…Sum dude n there said he keeps hearing those rumors that the titans want chris johnson OUR cj. I was wondering if any of u heard it because i havent. i looked…
May 11th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Actually The Raiders belong in the hearts of us fans.
They started in Oakland, went to LA, came back to Oaktown and are pushing forward.
I love The Raiders even if they move to Baghdad.
Raiders for life
May 11th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
NFL live is coming on we shall see if johnson is on the move anywhere
May 11th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Big talk in LA about a football team coming. A common questioned posed is whether Raider fans will become fans of the LA team and I haven’t heard anyone say they would become fans of the LA team
May 11th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Watched DMAC’s “break out” game against KC.
His one big run (the one where he was caught from behind by SAFETY Marcus Pollard) came out of a shotgun formation with TE Zach Miller lined up at fullback.
Miller’s well executed block on the MLB sprang McFadden and shows the need for a REAL blocking FB.
It also shows the need for Hue Jackson.
Oakland has run big plays and it seems like you never see them again and you see plays that don’t work over and over.
Hopefully Hue Jackson will be an improvement in play calling and utilization of what talents we have.
In short I hope Hue Jackson can provide Huge Action in 2010.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Its the 9ers turn to move to LA… lol
May 11th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
RaiderResurrection Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Actually The Raiders belong in the hearts of us fans.
They started in Oakland, went to LA, came back to Oaktown and are pushing forward.
I love The Raiders even if they move to Baghdad.
Raiders for life
Well said my brother
May 11th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
just win did they say what we would get
May 11th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
The Raiders belong in Sacramento.
The “Sacramento RRaiderRRRRRs”
May 11th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
408RAIDER Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Its the 9ers turn to move to LA… lol
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was thinkin the same thing. Wierd though cuz the “49ers” is pretty area specific.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Enjoy the day!
May 11th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Nnamdi21 well said, we seem to always go away from what works and we never utilize the right players on offense by plaing to their strengths. The Saints are great at giving everyone a role on there offense and creating plays that work towards their talent.
Come on Hue we need you baby!
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Nnamdi21 Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Watched DMAC’s “break out” game against KC.
His one big run (the one where he was caught from behind by SAFETY Marcus Pollard) came out of a shotgun formation with TE Zach Miller lined up at fullback.
Miller’s well executed block on the MLB sprang McFadden and shows the need for a REAL blocking FB.
It also shows the need for Hue Jackson.
Oakland has run big plays and it seems like you never see them again and you see plays that don’t work over and over.
Hopefully Hue Jackson will be an improvement in play calling and utilization of what talents we have.
In short I hope Hue Jackson can provide Huge Action in 2010.
May 11th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
well ill be back tim to investigate this CJ talk
May 11th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
The Raiders belong in Sacramento.
The “Sacramento RRaiderRRRRRs
u guys might loose the kings why would the raiders come to u and if so their not taking sac infront of the raiders maybe golden state raiders
May 11th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
The raiders belong on the east coast,because the chicks are hotter here ,thats why nfl players are raping the chicks here.they are hot!!!!!
May 11th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
What up NATION????
Was the only one on this blog to say that we would have a logical draft.
How logical was the pickup of campbell, which I was the first to pop off about that, and took much heat.
The good thing is most of the league thinks the raiders are going to be business as usual.
Its not just about having Mr. Davis ear, it may be that;
1. Heat from the league to clean up the mess.
2. Heat from a potential hostile take over.
3. Premptive strike by the NFL.
Like I have been saying “other forces” are at work here.
May 11th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
I admit a bias to the Raiders being named Oakland Raiders, but the Raiders are not just a local team.
The Riaders are actually their own Nation….
the first and only Nation in all of sports….
So if Mr. Davis chages the name to Raider Nation
That would be more fitting…
May 11th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
The most telling thing about the change in dynamics of the org will be the play calling on offense and defense. Like most here would suggest MR. Davis will have zero impact on play calling offense or defense.
Other forces are at work here….
May 11th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
I agree. Went to an SD game before, and the majority was in Silver and Black. It was like our second home game.
But the Raiders are still Oakland’s/The Bay Area’s team.
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24 Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 11:23 am
I’m happy the Raiders have history in L.A. because it grew our fan base in socal and for that, we dominate California in fans and its great because the Charger/Raider games in San Diego become Oakland South…thats awesome.
May 11th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
I grew up in LA and became a Raiders fan before they moved to LA.
The move to LA was great, especially after winning the 1983 Super Bowl. The Los Angeles fans (most) embraced
the Raiders and the love affair began. Why not, the Raiders were a great team then and won their fair share of games. Most fans (including myself) got tired of the lies from the politicians and we were not surprised when Al finally gave up on the 2nd biggest market (LA) and moved back to the smaller Oakland base. Al just needed to move and Oakland got lucky. If they had to leave LA, most LA fans were happy they went back to Oakland.
As for you Oakland fans who are happy that the Raiders returned to Oakland, you can thank the “political, Los Angeles Coliseum Commission,” which was made up of politican appointment from the Mayor. The Coliseum Commission had promised Al Davis renovations and executive suites, which they never delivered on. It was broken promise after broken promise with politicians more interested in re-election, and re-appointment, rather than spending tax-payer money on renovations. After 13 years and some law suits, Al gave up and came back to Oakland.
Note: as you all know, Oakland broke numerous promises as well and Al has taken the city to court more than once. And, for that reason, Al is “OPEN” to moving again in the future should the opportunity present itself. Obviously that’s my opinion only.
May 11th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
L.A. backwards is AL
May 11th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
What really goes on behind the scences on the island???
Who really knows who has been, hired or fired????
Who really conducted that draft???
Did we hire a former local GM, as a consultant?
Is the NATION getting pressure from the league to
“clean up this debacle”…..
What is really going on in Raider Nation….
Too many good things happening….
May 11th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Thec
its Amy…
May 11th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Raider Nation….
May 11th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Fat Kidd Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
The raiders belong on the east coast,because the chicks are hotter here ,thats why nfl players are raping the chicks here.they are hot!!!!!
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Richochet + Charged Up! = Fat Kidd
This is what happens when two horribly disturbed people get together without a condom.
May 11th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
408, what up Brother…. I goet it.. Hopefully she
used her goon squad to run away the lackeys, boot licks, and hangers on….
May 11th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
if so their not taking sac infront of the raiders maybe golden state raiders
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It’ll be the California Raiders. That oughtta tick off SD and SF. Heck, they could even keep the Oakland and just play here.
I’d love to see them come here too but the chances are probably slim to none.
May 11th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
The Raiders would be wise to move out of California all together.
Cali is circling the drain like the stinking turd that it is.
May 11th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Thec
its Southwick…
May 11th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
“… the Raiders will always belong to LA.”
Right, just like the Rams and Chargers do.
There’s no such thing as an LA Raider.
May 11th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
There’s no such thing as an LA Raider.
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Thats right teach em edward.haha
like dallas barden granmas say’s “stick it,” ice cube.
Oakland baby!!!
May 11th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
A.B. Paine II Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Fat Kidd Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
The raiders belong on the east coast,because the chicks are hotter here ,thats why nfl players are raping the chicks here.they are hot!!!!!
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Richochet + Charged Up! = Fat Kidd
This is what happens when two horribly disturbed people get together without a condom.
——————————————-well mr a.b.paine the second i hope there aint a a.b.paine the tird i mean third.
May 11th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
I hate La, and la ppl hate the bay. Them la hoes are so hollywood… Im like yea you may live near will smith, but B**** you is not jada pinkett. ha
May 11th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Ocho Cinco says JaLoser will be at Bengal Mini-Camp. Per PFT.
May 11th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
How u gone tell me i hate the bay? Fool im from LA and come out 2 the bay all the time. slap urself
May 11th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Go Raiders…slap urself again
May 11th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Big One, did u find nething on that cj trade besides that bs n the raiderbeat room?
May 11th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Ocho Cinco says JaLoser will be at Bengal Mini-Camp. Per PFT.
Well, Pac-Man does need a mentor….
May 11th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Ocho Cinco says JaLoser will be at Bengal Mini-Camp. Per PFT.
……………he will probably be a day early if they have a buffet.
May 11th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
JustWinBaby Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Big One, did u find nething on that cj trade besides that bs n the raiderbeat room
…………………………………cj not coming to oakland ,jamal lewis is.
May 11th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Fat Kidd,
If JaLoser is reading this, he’d be there tonight.
5 Star buffet in Cincy review:
“Grand Buffet: place looks unique, it has a fountain in the middle of the restaurant. I was supprised all the dishes they offer in the buffet… any thing from appetizers, entrees to desserts and salads, everything you can eat under $10 per person.”
Grand Buffet better raise their prices or have a picture of JaLoser up front with a warning of single seving only..
May 11th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
JustWinBaby Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
How u gone tell me i hate the bay? Fool im from LA and come out 2 the bay all the time. slap urself
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dude u notice all the sh*t being talked is by them, not anybody from L.A. is ragging on oakland but hey “it is what it is” right. who cares. just win already.
May 11th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
To me the Raiders are the Raiders. I don’t care where they play. The fact that they’re FROM Oakland is cool though.
May 11th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Ocho Cinco says JaLoser will be at Bengal Mini-Camp. Per PFT.
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if Russell can’t beat out Gradkowski, Frye, Losman or Boller I don’t think he’ll outplay Jordan Palmer or J.T. O’Sullivan either …
May 11th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
nader64 Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
To me the Raiders are the Raiders. I don’t care where they play. The fact that they’re FROM Oakland is cool though.
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Yes Oakhole is a good place to be FROM. lol
May 11th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
since Brian Cushing is suspended, the Texans have brought back LB Danny “Hammerhead” Clark…
I guess we won’t be trashing thier run defense after all, eh fellas?
May 11th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
I don’t care where the Raider’s play. Now living in the Midwest, if they play within driving distance, I go watch my team play. Last year went in the cold to Cleveland. If they play in Chicago(4 hours), Cinncinati(3 Hours away), Nashville,TN(12 hours away), Detroit(2 hours)and this year,Pittsburgh, I will proudly be wearing my Silver and Black. So stop the F”N city bashing. We are the Raider Nation!
May 11th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Can’t get tickets in Indy, LOL
May 11th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Chicago on August 12 Exla! I may well be in attendance…
May 11th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
I should have clarified, regular season but ChiTown sounds interesting. Nothing like sweltering in Soldier Field in August. LOL
May 11th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Actually Soldier Field is cool – by the lake. Windy. Lots to see/do right there in the loop.
May 11th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
I worked in Chicago for a year. Used to go to Billy Goats under Michigan Ave. They put the curse on the Cubs. Made famous in Sat Night Live sketch. Cheeseburger, Cheeseburger, chips no fries, no Coke, Pepsi.
May 11th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
My cousin likes in Lincoln Park. Used to go to the old Jimmy Mac,s Bar and Grill. Changed owners.
May 11th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
chips & pepsi instead of fries & coke?
forget that place!
May 11th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
ice cube has been out in the sun too long.
May 11th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH_b9XwloHE
May 11th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
my wife and I went to Chicago for our honeymoon.
stayed at the millenium knickerbocker.
pretty cool city, except for the crazy cab drivers & homeless people asking for food or change on every street – that was my experience anyways
great food & sites
May 11th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
I don’t care where the Raider’s play. Now living in the Midwest, if they play within driving distance, I go watch my team play. Last year went in the cold to Cleveland. If they play in Chicago(4 hours), Cinncinati(3 Hours away), Nashville,TN(12 hours away), Detroit(2 hours)and this year,Pittsburgh, I will proudly be wearing my Silver and Black. So stop the F”N city bashing. We are the Raider Nation!
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well said my man enough with this “were the oakland raiders” no your not “were the LA raiders” shyt who cares were are THE RAIDER NATION DAMMIT!! AND THE RAIDER NATION WILL BE BACK!!! MARK MY WORDS
May 11th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
THE RAIDER NATION WILL BE BACK!!! MARK MY WORDS
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right after the Lakers crumble
May 11th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Ice Cube is a washed up has been without a clue.
The Raiders went to L.A. and came back broken and screwed up from the fan base and image on up to the front office. The team and coach that left was the one that won a Superbowl down there and after that the spiral started. There was the slight team rebound under Gruden but the image that returned with them from L.A. is still the biggest stink they carry with them.
May 11th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
I grew up paramount,cali south east la.. been a raider fan since i was 10!!they were the oakland raiders when i became a member! i went to the LA coliseum to numerous games was a fan then… moved back to oakland in 95 still a fan now!!! i live here in dallas tx now i was very impressed with the 15,000+ we had here on thanksgiving!!! my section consisted of 7-9 bikers raider guys in front of me 4 homeboys to the left of me and a whole bunch of big ass brotha’s in back of me!!! i love THE NATION!! WE WILL BE BACK!!
May 11th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
5pm in Podunk. g’night fellers!
May 11th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
THE RAIDER NATION WILL BE BACK!!! MARK MY WORDS
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right after the Lakers crumble
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not again with the 15 TIME WORLD CHAMPION TALK BRA! LET IT REST
May 11th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
# BornInOakland Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Ice Cube is a washed up has been without a clue.
The Raiders went to L.A. and came back broken and screwed up from the fan base and image on up to the front office. The team and coach that left was the one that won a Superbowl down there and after that the spiral started. There was the slight team rebound under Gruden but the image that returned with them from L.A. is still the biggest stink they carry with them.
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then explain to me why we have sucked as the “oakland raiders” for the last 7 yrs… 8 yrs removed from LA…
May 11th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
the raiders will always belong to l.a!
May 11th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
The Raiders will always be associated with Oakland, Ice Cube’s bravado and an L.A. fanbase notwithstanding. Their roots are in Oakland, their greatest years took place in Oakland, and they are back in Oakland, where they belong and will hopefully remain. The move to L.A. was (yet another) mistake by Davis, who seems to get bored when he doesn’t have a controversy swirling around him. The litigation with the NFL, the mostly empty, massive stadium down there, the gang associations, the threats to move again to Irwindale (your Irwindale Raiders, everyone!) was embarrassing, even though they won a Super Bowl. “L.A. Raiders” always sounded too Hollywood. But the OAKLAND Raiders. Now that has a nice ring to it.
May 11th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
the raiders never belonged To L.A. you just borrowed them
May 11th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
I’ve been a Raiders fan since I was a kid watching Snake, Tatum, Hayes and Hendericks. One thing I keep reading from younger fans that the move to LA “grew the fan base” is flat-out wrong.
In the 70’s and early 80’s the Oakland Raiders were the winningest franchise and the #1 merchandise seller. Home games were sellouts in the frenzied Coliseum where to team had a HUGE home field advantage.
Al got greedy and arrogant. He wanted to be Jerry Jones before there was Jerry Jones and build a 100k seat stadium. Problem was he couldn’t so he moved to LA into a 90k+ stadium. It blew up in his face. LA fans were fickle and they couldn’t even draw the 60k they did in Oakland.
In 95 Al came back with a couple thousand loyal LA fans but he had lost over half his Oakland fans. Now they are one of the lowest attended teams in the NFL.
Raider Nation? Those of us old enough to remember the early 80’s remember when almost every blue collar guy in the Bay Area was a fan. The Raider Nation of today is a shell of its old self. You have the LA experiment to thank for that.
May 11th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Ochocinco claims that the Bengals are bringing in JaMarcus Russell
Posted by Mike Florio on May 11, 2010 3:37 PM ET
OCNN strikes again.
Bengals receiver Chad Ochocinco, who launched the Ocho Cinco News Network last year as part of a brilliant personal marketing campaign, has dropped a very strong hint regarding the next destination of former Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell.
Ochocinco says to Russell, “I’ll see you at minicamp” and then, “Oops, did I just leak that info?” (Which is dangerously close to, “Did I do that?” . . . which makes us think that Chad perhaps should be doing the Urkel on Dancing with the Stars.)
In response, ESPN’s Adam Schefter claims that the Bengals and others have called Russell, but that “there are no plans for him to be at any minicamps now.”
If the Bengals sign Russell, it fits with their M.O. of finding bargains. Though the Bengals have a franchise quarterback in Carson Palmer, some think that an elbow injury that plagued him in 2008 was still bothering him in 2009.
May 11th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
You have to wonder how Jamarcus would do with Ochocinco and Antonio Bryant as his WR’s along with Cedric Benson as his RB if he had to come in for Palmer.
May 11th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
201. Nice 24. Thanks.
I tend to believe Schefter this time (Even a garbage can gets a steak now and again) the Benglas have become a harbour for the Leagues criminal element and I’d think likely a possible landing spot for Jamarcass but not sure if its a done deal especially since OCho tweeted basically the same thing about T.O.
May 11th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Ocho’s 31 goal is no get attention. First TO now JR.
May 11th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Speaking of T.O. Could we just sign him already? We desperately need someone reliable at the WR position. Its possible that Campbell could make these guys look better than our other QB’s have but still. Is anybody comfortable? The team has tried to fill this need through the draft and I applaud them for that but theres not enough experience and production here.
DHB – 1st Round
Murphy – 4th Round
Schilens – 7th Round
JLH – 3rd Round
Ford – 4th Round
Nick Miller
Bodiford
Figurs
Holland – 7th Round
Hubbard
Watkins
May 11th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Not that JR is worth anything but J.T. O’Sullivan is the backup QB in Cincy. I’d rather sign JR to the minimum and let him sit behind Palmer and possibly learn something that have Sullivan. You’d hope that JR could do more with his ability and the talent on the Bengals in that scenario. At least Bryant and Ocho can chase down balls unlike any Raiders WR’s with the exception of Schilens and Zach Miller.
May 11th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
If we signed T.O., we should keep these guys in order of starting.
1 – T.O.
2 – Schilens
3 – Murphy
4 – DHB
5 – JLH
6 – Ford (Ford could very well replace JLH as the 5th WR if we go with 5 and he would also take over kick/punt return duties. Nick Miller could possibly stay but he becomes expendable if Ford has any success. JLH is not a terrible receiver but terribly hot and cold.)
Without T.O.
1 – Schilens
2 – Murphy
3 – DHB
4 – JLH
5 – Ford
6 – Nick Miller
If Schilens gets injured again which is almost a guarentee, we’re screwed once again.
May 11th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
Ocho and Russell? I don’t know…
http://raidernationstation.com/around_the_league
May 11th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
oach on Wheels Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Ocho’s 31 goal is no get attention. First TO now JR.
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Yup.
May 11th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Long live the Raider Nation! Never forget when I ran into a farmer in the remote Highlands of Scotland wearing…..you guessed it, a Raider Hat, which had been passed on to him by a member of the Raider Nation!
May 11th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Post #199
Coach on Wheels knows the score. Had Oakland somehow managed to get Al the stadium he wanted LA would have never happened, and there’s a good chance things would be very different now.
There was nothing good about the move to LA, and it hasn’t been the same since they returned.
Big mistake.
May 11th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
The Raiders lost A LOT of fans because of the move to L.A.
May 11th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Coach on Wheels Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
I’ve been a Raiders fan since I was a kid watching Snake, Tatum, Hayes and Hendericks. One thing I keep reading from younger fans that the move to LA “grew the fan base” is flat-out wrong.
In the 70’s and early 80’s the Oakland Raiders were the winningest franchise and the #1 merchandise seller. Home games were sellouts in the frenzied Coliseum where to team had a HUGE home field advantage.
Al got greedy and arrogant. He wanted to be Jerry Jones before there was Jerry Jones and build a 100k seat stadium. Problem was he couldn’t so he moved to LA into a 90k+ stadium. It blew up in his face. LA fans were fickle and they couldn’t even draw the 60k they did in Oakland.
In 95 Al came back with a couple thousand loyal LA fans but he had lost over half his Oakland fans. Now they are one of the lowest attended teams in the NFL.
Raider Nation? Those of us old enough to remember the early 80’s remember when almost every blue collar guy in the Bay Area was a fan. The Raider Nation of today is a shell of its old self. You have the LA experiment to thank for that.
When I drive back from Oakland there’s hoards of faithful Raider fans taking the trek back to LA or Fresno or other stops along the way. We spend our hard earned dollars to make it up to Oakland even during hard times to have grumpy individuals like yourself bash us faithful followers. I recall big crowds in LA even though we weren’t perrenial playoff contenders. And now your blaming the fact that Al moved the Raiders to LA for the lack of big crowds in Oakland? Then don’t attend anymore either. The Raiders aren’t Oaklands team it’s Al’s team and he’ll move the Raiders wherever the hell he pleases and I’ll still follow them and you can cry about it
May 11th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
If we signed T.O., we should keep these guys in order of starting.
1 – T.O.
2 – Schilens
3 – Murphy
4 – DHB
5 – JLH
6 – Ford (Ford could very well replace JLH as the 5th WR if we go with 5 and he would also take over kick/punt return duties. Nick Miller could possibly stay but he becomes expendable if Ford has any success. JLH is not a terrible receiver but terribly hot and cold.)
Without T.O.
1 – Schilens
2 – Murphy
3 – DHB
4 – JLH
5 – Ford
6 – Nick Miller
If Schilens gets injured again which is almost a guarentee, we’re screwed once again.
if T.O comes schilens or JLH has to go and T.O dosnt have to be a num ! reciver but has to play alot
May 11th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
I guess the Oakland fans aren’t as faithful as LA fans because when the Raiders left Oakland alot of fans jumped ship yet when the Raiders left LA back to Oakland the LA fans remained faithful
May 11th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
he’s a rebel /raider so sign T.O up
May 11th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Inoneword – the word is WRONG
It’s not about being grumpy. It is reality.
Reality – The LA fans aren’t enough to offset the losses or there’d be sellouts. Period. Fact.
Pre LA = Sellouts 60k every game
Post LA = Blackouts 30-50k every game
It isn’t about your loyalty. The FACT is there aren’t enough of you to offset the lost fans.
May 11th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
I guess the Oakland fans aren’t as faithful as LA fans because when the Raiders left Oakland alot of fans jumped ship yet when the Raiders left LA back to Oakland the LA fans remained faithful
no the oakland fans were mad that we had to watch so much 49er football due to the move
May 11th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
The big one of 83 – Why would Schilens have to go? He is our best WR. His problem is that hes injury prone but without him, we’re even more worse off. JLH can easily be replaced by Jacoby Ford or Nick Miller if he can stay healthy. If you want a good WR core, you’d have to have Schilens AND T.O. on the field at the same time because T.O. and any other receiver would put majority attention on T.O. and we need to spread the ball. Murphy is the wild card because he could very well have a breakout year. DHB is a mystery at this point.
May 11th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
if the team wins the crowds will be fine so your analysis is wrong. This year marked the lowest attendance and it’s not because of the lost Oakland fans, sorry
May 11th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
LA fans remained faithful?
Dude, I rode the Amtrak and bus smog central and LA even with Oakland fans commuting couldn’t outdraw Oakland. BTW what’s LAs population versus Oakland?
I’m glad you’re a loyal fan but there aren’t enough of you to offset the damage.
May 11th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
I don’t want T.O. because of the rebel persona. We don’t need that, we just need talent. What you’d hope for is that T.O. has been somewhat humbled by the fact that nobody has signed him and if the Raiders signed him, he might be more greatful than normal. His attitude wasn’t that bad last year. People say that his ability is diminishing and while that may be true, the Bills were terrible.
T.O. had 1,000 yards in 2008 with Dallas. He still put up 829 yards last year on an inept offense.
Last year stats…
YEAR TEAM G REC YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST
2009 BUF 16 55 829 15.1 98 5 33 1 0
This is better than anything we currently have.
May 11th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
if the team wins the crowds will be fine so your analysis is wrong. This year marked the lowest attendance and it’s not because of the lost Oakland fans, sorry
LOL
Playoffs teams in LA couldn’t draw and blackouts were a reality during the winning Gruden years.
May 11th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Al Davis reminds me of the Godfather in this Ice Cube show.
May 11th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
it’s all based on performance, if the team wins like it did in Oakland the first go round the crowds will be there. The move to LA made Als fan base grow overall, not the other way around
May 11th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Ice Cube represented Al Davis well
May 11th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
oakland
May 11th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
# Coach on Wheels Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
I’ve been a Raiders fan since I was a kid watching Snake, Tatum, Hayes and Hendericks. One thing I keep reading from younger fans that the move to LA “grew the fan base” is flat-out wrong.
In the 70’s and early 80’s the Oakland Raiders were the winningest franchise and the #1 merchandise seller. Home games were sellouts in the frenzied Coliseum where to team had a HUGE home field advantage.
Al got greedy and arrogant. He wanted to be Jerry Jones before there was Jerry Jones and build a 100k seat stadium. Problem was he couldn’t so he moved to LA into a 90k+ stadium. It blew up in his face. LA fans were fickle and they couldn’t even draw the 60k they did in Oakland.
In 95 Al came back with a couple thousand loyal LA fans but he had lost over half his Oakland fans. Now they are one of the lowest attended teams in the NFL.
Raider Nation? Those of us old enough to remember the early 80’s remember when almost every blue collar guy in the Bay Area was a fan. The Raider Nation of today is a shell of its old self. You have the LA experiment to thank for that.
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Aww come on COW. The Raider Nation still exists. It’s just that instead of the most knowledgeable die hard dedicated loyalists who know not only football AND what it takes to win but also what it means to be a “Raider” you now have a bunch of makeup wearing, gown toting pusses, or even worse, the gang slanging loser fukups who have NO IDEA what it takes to be successful (unless it means pointing a gun at unsuspecting women and children and pulling the trigger.)
May 11th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Not sure if we go after T.O. I kinda doubt it. We’ve purged alot of A holes from the team in recent years.
I wonder if Davis sees no need for T.O. cuz we got DHB?
May 11th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Coach on Wheels Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
LA fans remained faithful?
Dude, I rode the Amtrak and bus smog central and LA even with Oakland fans commuting couldn’t outdraw Oakland. BTW what’s LAs population versus Oakland?
I’m glad you’re a loyal fan but there aren’t enough of you to offset the damage.
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the problem was the Raiders played at the coloseum…
the Coloseum sucks…
not the people in LA…
May 11th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Nnamdi,
I just hope they take a realistic look at DHB. I think he has a role…the #1 receiver….I don’t think so
May 11th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Most of the fans that jumped ship in Oakland in 1982 were propably blue collar family men late 30’s-early 40’s. Who figured they could spend their time and money elsewhere.It was a bad financial time in Oakland and the rest of the nation(inflation,gas shortage).Chevy did not even bother to make the Corvette for a couple years
May 11th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
YEAR TEAM G REC YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST
2009 BUF 16 55 829 15.1 98 5 33 1 0
talent not their but he scored his career long TD 98YDS but he lost a step right
May 11th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Nnamdi,
I just hope they take a realistic look at DHB. I think he has a role…the #1 receiver….I don’t think so
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If his production su-cks and he’s MR. Frying pan hands again I hope they drop him down the depth chart earlier this year.
I hope we HAVE someone to step up in his place if he does su-ck again.
May 11th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Florida Pete Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Coach on Wheels Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
LA fans remained faithful?
Dude, I rode the Amtrak and bus smog central and LA even with Oakland fans commuting couldn’t outdraw Oakland. BTW what’s LAs population versus Oakland?
I’m glad you’re a loyal fan but there aren’t enough of you to offset the damage.
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the problem was the Raiders played at the coloseum…
the Coloseum sucks…
not the people in LA…
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The people suck too.
May 11th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
All you LA (Brooklyn) Dodgers and SF (NY) Giants fans are no better than LA Raider fans.
Print it.
May 11th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Nnamdi21,
DHB’s hands has to get better. This team has to start winning and I hope they don’t retard the progress of the team waiting for DHB.
Again, he’s a good kid etc….but 9 catches in 11 starts raises big, huge red flags with me.
Let the best man win in camp. No scholarships.
If DHB comes through with a strong camp etc….then put him out there…but if he isn’t….don’t waste time. 7 years is too long and we don’t have any more time for long-term projects.
May 11th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
This Ice Cube thing is a little ridiculous. Basically, the Raiders were the favorite team of a bunch of gangsters and drugs were big back then and they were trying to portray themselves as Raiders. Then we’re learning more about the history of Rap and how NWA started. Who cares? This is more about the evolution of rap and the environment that came along with it. The Raiders don’t really need to be included in this. The only connection was that these particular gangsters in that area wore Raider jackets and such. Who cares?
May 11th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
There are football towns, and there are baseball towns. Pittsburgh is a football town. Los Angeles is a baseball town. Boston is a baseball town. Oakland is a football town.
May 11th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
You can’t say that LA fans are not front runner fans. In fact they are the very definition of front runner fans. See Rams, Los Angeles (1946-1994)
May 11th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
I am from the Bay Area and have lived in LA the last 5yrs. I do find myself going back to visit less often, but people that live anywhere just suk..especially to some on this blog.
May 11th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Its more than just catching passes. DHB needs to run crisp routes and separate on normal routes in order to get away from his defender. So he can run straight really fast…thats not going to help him. He needs to be a complete player and once he can separate on regular routes, then he has to catch the ball. Is he at that point yet? Schilens runs proper routes. Murphy gets separation but he needs to also have better hands. JLH lacks concentration. Ford will be a rookie.
May 11th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
24,
How can you say JLH lacks concentration and not say the same thing about DHB.
I think JLH is a better receiver than DHB right now.
I am really down on DHB based on what I saw last year. He was useless.
Catching the ball is his 1st, 2nd and 3rd responsiblity. Call a spade a spade…this kid has a lot of work to do to get to normal
May 11th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
DHB can be coached up buy a guy like T.O he works hard and has a swagger this offense needs
May 11th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Its funny that all these Rappers in the L.A. area were wearing Raider gear but we were winning Superbowl’s back then so just about everyone was wearing Raider gear as bandwagon fans do. Had the Raiders suck’d, would these rappers have been sporting the gear? It just seems like they’re trying to take credit for making the Raiders great by sporting the gear vs. the Raiders getting the credit simply for being a great team.
May 11th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Yikes….Jay Schroeder highlights
May 11th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Yikes….Jay Schroeder highlights
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WHAT?!
Shroeder has highlights?!
May 11th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
SnB – I agree with you. JLH is a better receiver than DHB right now. I don’t think DHB lacks in concentration, I think he lacks in ball catching talent. JLH has proven that hes a fumbler and a bumbler. The things he has done trying to return punts and kickoffs and as a WR is why I say he lacks concentration. I too am very down on DHB and if I was very confident in him, I wouldn’t be lobbying for T.O.
May 11th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Though LenDale White is now a Seahawk and Chris Johnson is absent from minis the Titans were still 2nd overall in rushing and had a 2,000yd + HB.
Kevin Mawae may end up back in Tennessee and at this early stage Oakland looks like it could be facing a huge challenge to its run poor defense right out of the gate in 2010.
No one wants someone so closely connected with the NFLPA it seems (Mawae has said as much himself) but signing him away from Tennessee would be a positive for opening week end.
May 11th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
what happened to the raiders VS the NFL money
May 11th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
24,
Catching the ball is EVERYTHING! Drops are ok…as long as you are making an equal amount of big plays.
Last year from DHB was all drops…that K.C game was atrocious.
Again, at least he’s not a prima donna and he works hard. So let’s hope the camp is legit and the best player wins…regardless of draft status
May 11th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
24 Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
SnB – I agree with you. JLH is a better receiver than DHB right now. I don’t think DHB lacks in concentration, I think he lacks in ball catching talent. JLH has proven that hes a fumbler and a bumbler.
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I don’t know that JLH is a better receiver than DHB right now. DHB’s rookie numbers were BETTER than JLH’s. JLH had a very mediocre 2nd season receiving and he took a step BACK last year. DHB is a project. We all knew he was a project when he was drafted. Watching his lst snap as a pro we all realized what a project he really is. But he did seemingly improve as last season went on. That’s a good sign.
May 11th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
I live in L.A…… And I for one, believe the Raiders should stay home in Oakland.. I went to games at that thing the Raiders played in back in the day. The problem is…. No one was watching the game. Everybody(including the Raider Player) were too busy looking up into to stands watching the home boys……bat each others brains in!!! It really was a depressing sight!! And another thing….. Try asking any Cholo Gang member to name 5 players on the Raiders, I doubt they can come up with three!!! It’s the TRUTH!! The Raider belong in Oakland!! True Raider fans will make the trip north to watch them!!!
Go Lakers & Raiders!!
May 11th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
I don’t want T.O. to teach anybody anything. I want him to come to Oakland and shut up and produce. The other receivers just need to watch him and learn how to be a productive receiver. T.O. doesn’t need to teach them, they just need to pay attention.
May 11th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Seymour,
How many games did DHB start his rookie year vs. JLH?
May 11th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
AL DAVIS is not of sound body but i believe he still is of sound mind… dont let the old age fool you… he defintly knows whats going on
May 11th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
lets go big al u let mike taint what we do around hear get hard nose guys who have a problem or two but they all love football and could actually play football
May 11th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Davis was represented well by this story.
He spoke freely and honestly about his beliefs etc….and he’s still with it.
He took responsibility for the bad football in the late 80’s early 90’s…..and I believe he’s done it again recently.
All I ask is he let’s the coaches run the lockerroom and starting lineup.
May 11th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
the_big_one_of_83 Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
DHB can be coached up buy a guy like T.O he works hard and has a swagger this offense needs
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Coached up on how to be an azz hole. Have you seen “wired” footage of T.O. onthe practice field lately?
With the Cowboys, with the Bills, the guy is a f-uh-king cancer.
You think Dallas or Buffalo couldn’t use a proven pass catcher?
Why didn’t they keep him?
Why’d Dallas sign him to a 4 yr, $34 million dollar deal in June of 2008 paying him $12 million guaranteed only to cut his azz less than a year later in March 2009?
Say NO to T.O.
May 11th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
LA homies, please don’t take offense to what I am saying about LA. I actually like LA, and I respect a TON of LA fans. I do try to talk in absolute fact tho whenever I post here whether it is about individual players or the team or other subjects like LA fans.
The costumed or gang banging fans that followed the Raiders north were never a staple of the Oakland Coliseum prior to their departure in the early 80’s. And as for the “front runner” aspect of LA fan, I was at quite a few Golden State Warrior games this season, and I was just AMAZED at both the number of fans at the games, and their belief in their team as the games got close at the end. Gotta be honest, I don’t think it would be quite the same if the GS Warriors were playing in the Forum or Staples Center over the last 15 years I would believe. (See, Clippers, LA, 1984-present)
May 11th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
JLH and Schilens both looked great those last 2-4 games of the 2008 season along with Jamarcus Russell. Then all of a sudden, Schilens gets hurt last year, JLH gets pushed to the side and DHB and Murphy start. I thought JLH should have started and I believed he was going to progress from the year before. Now…I guess he took the big hit and everything changed. My question is…because I can’t remember…did that hit happen while he was playing in the slot?
May 11th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Seymour,
How many games did DHB start his rookie year vs. JLH?
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Higgins was suited up for 15 games as a rookie if I remember right. I think DHB played in 10, all starts. DHB most likely saw more snaps as a rookie than JLH, but probably not that many more total.
May 11th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
wow !!!! KNOCK ON THE DOOR!!!!
May 11th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Porter and Curry were the starters during JLH’s rookie year. JLH’s 2nd year, he started the last 4 games.
May 11th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
screw the good guys if they can barely play
May 11th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Seymour,
Was JLH the primary receiver in his rookie year? DHB was the STARTER!
I seem to remember him as an oft used slot receiver.
Buried on the depth chart behind Jerry Porter, Ronald Curry, Tim Dwight…..
May 11th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/2007.htm
2007 Raiders stats.
May 11th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
Don’t blame Cube. I know how he feels. He did a good job with that docu
May 11th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
JLH can barely play
May 11th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Davis was represented well by this story.
He spoke freely and honestly about his beliefs etc….and he’s still with it.
He took responsibility for the bad football in the late 80’s early 90’s…..and I believe he’s done it again recently.
All I ask is he let’s the coaches run the lockerroom and starting lineup.
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YA I COULDNT AGREE more with you… al knows whats going… were on the right track now, i beleive with what were doing here…i would love to see us get at least one more before he passes!!!
May 11th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
Ice Cube sort of accidently acknowledges why the Raiders should’ve stayed in Oakland.
Frst he whines about the Rams leaving and says it hurt. Gee, how do you think Oakland fans felt? Shoot the Rams moved to Anaheim.
Second, for all the “bad azz LA” talk, the team got soft in LA and lost its mystique.
Third, LAs “fans” weren’t FOOTBALL fans. Weak-will gangsters, crackheads and losers who thought wearing Raider gear made them “real men”.
Fourth, the reputation of Raider fans as blue collar tough was replaced. Now they’re seen as ghetto thugs and ticket sales have suffered. Especially the corporate sales that help teams like SF sellout even in bad years.
Fifth, once other teams followed the LA Kings in selling black gear the truth of the size of “Raider Nation” was revealed. Now the 49ers, A’s, Giants, everybody sells black gear. Raider sales have took a nose dive.
Six, Cube finishes whining that LA needs a team but guess what Cube, it won’t be in Compton.
LA = Bad Move
May 11th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
the coliseum is doomed on preseason game in LA thats it take it or leave it
May 11th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Seymour,
Was JLH the primary receiver in his rookie year? DHB was the STARTER!
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Starter is often an overrated designation in a lot of sports. My point is JLH really has done little if anything for three years, and regressed last year. That is not good.
May 11th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
the_big_one_of_83 Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
JLH can barely play
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Word.
Bad routes, wrong routes and quits on routes.
Needs to work.
DHB worries me because not a natural pass catcher. Poor composure too.
Bad combo. Showed it several times last year. Freaked out and lost all sense of how to catch.
Hope his hard work has paid off this off season.
May 11th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
“if L.A. builds a stadium, just knock on the door”.
the great al davis everybody.
May 11th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
just call them the Al Davis Raiders.
May 11th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
273. remind me of the downfall of Curry. Showed some production with a horrid passing game then fell off the face of the earth.
Hope JLH can comeback and start to improve again. If not, too bad.
I think the big hit he took was from Weddle against the Chargers in the return game.
What ever it was, get the f over it and run your routes!
May 11th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
My favorite movie about Los Angeles?
Terminator 2.
May 11th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
I love how Al is still insinuating that Marcus Allen did something insidious.
May 11th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
You want players to improve as the year goes on. Ro McClain is a rookie and he will probably go out there and make some rookie mistakes. He also is not the “thumper” that most here expect. He is more of a “tackler”, which I prefer.
Russell did not improve as last year wore on. DHB did. JLH did not. Satele did. Mario Henderson did not.
May 11th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Lots of questions for the Titans.
Will they pay Kerry Collins $5 mill + to be 2nd string?
Will Chris Johnson get a new contract deal done before mandatorys?
Will Mawae be their center?
Will #1 draft pick DE Derrick Morgan be able to give them instant pass rush?
Will Fat Albert Haynseworth move back to Tennessee where Tennessee-an is Tenne-believan?
I hope they’re a considerably worse team this year than last.
May 11th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
273. remind me of the downfall of Curry. Showed some production with a horrid passing game then fell off the face of the earth.
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Ron Curry showed some poise and promise on that Horrid Art Shell II team. He was named a team captain and then shat all over all of us. On to Detroit he went. Then on to the unemployment line.
May 11th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
A.B. Paine II Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
I love how Al is still insinuating that Marcus Allen did something insidious.
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Disgruntled team mates by not keeping his d-ick out of their wives I heard somewhere once…
May 11th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Pi$$ on Ice Cube.
May 11th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Hey Seymour,
Pray tell homie….How exactly did DHB improve over the last year??
May 11th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
My favorite movie about Los Angeles?
Terminator 2.
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funny u say that nnamdi21, but weren’t u raised in L.A.
May 11th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Seymour thinks DHB is the next Jerry Rice afte rhe doubled his TD total from 0-1.
Huge improvement! Nice “trajectory” from DHB right Seymour OakGlen Debo
May 11th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Seymour,
DHB did not improve at all last year. Last year was a total disaster for him. 9 receptions in 11 games is unacceptable at every level. There is no shining that turd of a year.
He has to step up big-time.
At least JLH had multiple multi-catch games
May 11th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
LA or Oaktown I love my Raiders all the same. Marcus Allen was the man that’s up to those players to keep their old ladies in check, Marcus can’t help being so Marcus and that all the ladies came a calling.
May 11th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
You want players to improve as the year goes on. Ro McClain is a rookie and he will probably go out there and make some rookie mistakes. He also is not the “thumper” that most here expect. He is more of a “tackler”, which I prefer.
Russell did not improve as last year wore on. DHB did. JLH did not. Satele did. Mario Henderson did not.
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Mario sorely missed Gallery.
I think Gallery helps him with assignments in the huddle and on the line.
I forget who played guard while Morris was at center but he did ok then too.
Plugging Satele back in and moving Morris to guard next to Henderson really hurt.
Morris just under powered for the position.
We have more depth this year but hope we don’t need it.
Still have hope for Henderson if not at LT then maybe right.
May 11th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
raideredoutL.A. Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
My favorite movie about Los Angeles?
Terminator 2.
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funny u say that nnamdi21, but weren’t u raised in L.A.
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So I know of which I speak…
May 11th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Seymour,
DHB did not improve at all last year. Last year was a total disaster for him. 9 receptions in 11 games is unacceptable at every level. There is no shining that turd of a year.
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DHB had two receptions his lst five pro games. That is dismal production. I think he had 7 receptions and a TD his next and final five games. That is improvement. Unless you are brain damaged. (Looking at you on that mistabrOwn). Is it acceptable? No. But it is undeniable improvement.
May 11th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Seymour thinks DHB is the next Jerry Rice afte rhe doubled his TD total from 0-1.
Huge improvement! Nice “trajectory” from DHB right Seymour OakGlen Debo
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Do I smell gas? Yup. MistabrOwn just showed up. Hey mista, why did you run last night after you claimed you never run away. Was that a mistype too? You meant to say, you ALWAYS run away, as you are getting bivch slapped right?
May 11th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
April 17th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
I dont duck. I dont run. But every time I come here I get bich slapped
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hahahaha
May 11th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
SeymourGlen,
I know you want me to stay here 24/7 and keep you company but truth be told I log off here and do other things.
BTW….what is bivch?
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# Seymour Bush Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
you ALWAYS run away, as you are getting bivch slapped right?
May 11th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
SeymourGlen,
Lets talk football!
How did DHB improve last year when he finished the year in street clothes?
May 11th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
MistaBrown Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
BTW….what is bivch?
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The Russian version of you.
May 11th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Not playing the last 5 games of his rookie year signifies “improvement”??? LOL!! Oh I know, I know. He was “injured”….
May 11th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
SeymourGlen,
Lets talk football!
How did DHB improve last year when he finished the year in street clothes?
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Is this a stupid question or what? Come on, even you can do better than this. Let me ask you a more “reality” based question. He caught two, count ‘em, two balls his lst five games. He caught seven, and a score, the last five he played in before he was “injured.” Is that improvement?
May 11th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
SeymourGlen,
I wont repost your typo for 3 weeks ONLY derelicts like you do that.
May 11th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
ROFLMAO
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# Seymour Bush Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Is this a stupid question or what? Come on, even you can do better than this. Let me ask you a more “reality” based question. He caught two, count ‘em, two balls his lst five games. He caught seven, and a score, the last five he played in before he was “injured.” Is that improvement?
May 11th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
I’ll give you a hint: it is a yes or no question.
May 11th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
ROFLMAO
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# Seymour Bush Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Is this a stupid question or what? Come on, even you can do better than this. Let me ask you a more “reality” based question. He caught two, count ‘em, two balls his lst five games. He caught seven, and a score, the last five he played in before he was “injured.” Is that improvement?
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OK, I REALLY tried to dumb it down, but obviously the word improvement is over your head. Let me say it another way, did DHB seem more gosh darn gussied up the last coupla games?
May 11th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
SeymourGlen,
Look around. Besides yourself who is saying DHB made ANY improvement? You are dumb as a sack of hammers.
LMAO
The end.
May 11th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
The last couple games HE WAS ON THE BENCH IN STREET CLOTHES! 0 CATCHES 0 YARDS 0 TD’s! ARE YOU MENTALLY RETARDED ?
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# Seymour Bush Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
did DHB seem more gosh darn gussied up the last coupla games?
May 11th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
our wr core on a scale of 1 – 10 is about a 4.5 at best
thro miller time in were a 6
May 11th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
man i hope DHB can get to 35 rec this year that my goal for him…
May 11th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
SeymourGlen,
Do you even watch NFL football or does Jerry pay you 5 cents a post?
DHB didnt play the last 4 GAMES you dumb as a stump moron! He didnt improve! He didnt get “gussied” up!!
LMFAO!!!!!
May 11th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
The last couple games HE WAS ON THE BENCH IN STREET CLOTHES! 0 CATCHES 0 YARDS 0 TD’s! ARE YOU MENTALLY RETARDED ?
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# Seymour Bush Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
did DHB seem more gosh darn gussied up the last coupla games?
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Why there ya go, now boy, he was on IR, not even playin’! So, no, he couldn’t improve if he dag nab ain’t playing, now can he? How bout the last few games he played in? He sure caught more balls, and even caught a TD! Sounds like improvement to me.
May 11th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
I think by week 6 he can accumulate 35 yards. If he stays healthy..
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# 30 year raider Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
man i hope DHB can get to 35 rec this year that my goal for him…
May 11th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
WHAT??????????????
HOLY SH!T this dood has lost it!
Can somebody translate this into English?
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# Seymour Bush Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
Why there ya go, now boy, he was on IR, not even playin’! So, no, he couldn’t improve if he dag nab ain’t playing, now can he? How bout the last few games he played in? He sure caught more balls, and even caught a TD! Sounds like improvement to me.
May 11th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
# 30 year raider Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
our wr core on a scale of 1 – 10 is about a 4.5 at best
thro miller time in were a 6
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You are talking about 2 rookies (Murphy?DHB), one 2nd year guy (Shilens) who hasn’t played that much, and a 3rd year guy (higgins) who really underperformed. I like what I see in Shilens and Murphy tho.
May 11th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
mistabrown how is 1 double what zero is? if you multiply zero by 2 what do you get?
May 11th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
DHB never really improved last year…he just was there floating around… i aint goona lie i wolud like us to upgrade our wr coach tho.. sanjay lal lmao we could do better than him
May 11th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
WHAT??????????????
HOLY SH!T this dood has lost it!
Can somebody translate this into English?
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# Seymour Bush Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
Why there ya go, now boy, he was on IR, not even playin’! So, no, he couldn’t improve if he dag nab ain’t playing, now can he? How bout the last few games he played in? He sure caught more balls, and even caught a TD! Sounds like improvement to me.
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Here, I’ll dumb it down AGAIN for you. He caught more passes his 2nd half. He also caught a TD in the 2nd half of his season. That is what we call here in America, Improvement!
May 11th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Jason Campbell 2009 Ranking Statistics Among NFL QB’s
Attempts – 13th – 507
Completions – 12th – 327
Percentage – 10th – 64.5%
Yards – 14th – 3,618
Yards/Attempt – 15th – 7.14
Long – 5th – 84
Touchdowns – 18th – 20
Interceptions – Tied 9th – 15
Sacks – 3rd Highest – 43
QB Rating – 15th – 86.4
Yards/Game – 16th – 226
Redskin Rankings
Total Offense – 22nd
First Downs – Tied 23rd
Passing Offense – 16th
Rushing Offense – 27th
Receiving – 14th
Returning – 16th
Kicking – Tied 19th
Punting – 21st
Defense – 10th
Some important statistics show that Campbell was a positive on a bad team. They were 27th in rushing. He was sacked 43 times (3rd highest of all teams) yet most of his stats range from the average to above average in statistics. Based on the stats, the biggest problem was the offensive line. Maybe the playcalling was failing this team as well but Campbell got the most out of what was given to him. His defense was ranked 10th but the Raiders were ranked 1st in Defense on the worst offense ever so teams might have chilled against them.
Redskins Top ranked Position players:
RB Clinton Portis – Rank 44th
WR Santana Moss – Rank 29th
TE Fred Davis – Rank 88th among WRs/TEs
The Redskins #1 TE was hurt for the year after week 7.
May 11th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
# PassTheCheetos Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
mistabrown how is 1 double what zero is? if you multiply zero by 2 what do you get?
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Jeeezus PassTheCheetos! Don’t ask mistabrOwn his multiplication tables!!! In fact, don’t even ask him simple math! That’s why he is having such a problem with this!
To Wit:
• MistaBrown Says:
May 9th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Increasing his TD’s numbers from 0 – 1 is improvement ?
From a 38 OVERALL draft pick???????
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Actually, I would rather have one TD than none, and we are talking about the 8th overall pick, not the 38. I didn’t tell him 8 is greater than 38th as far as NFL draft selection number, because I KNOW that would only REALLY confuse him!
hahahaha
May 11th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
I think by week 6 he can accumulate 35 yards. If he stays healthy..
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# 30 year raider Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
man i hope DHB can get to 35 rec this year that my goal for him…
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man i hope he does more than that… the kid has been working hard??? does he wear rec gloves??? lol im serious
May 11th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
# 30 year raider Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
DHB never really improved last year…he just was there floating around… i aint goona lie i wolud like us to upgrade our wr coach tho.. sanjay lal lmao we could do better than him
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Actually DHB did improve as the year went on, but not at NEAR the rate or PRODUCTION any of us would have hoped.
May 11th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
24 Says:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Some important statistics show that Campbell was a positive on a bad team. They were 27th in rushing. He was sacked 43 times (3rd highest of all teams) yet most of his stats range from the average to above average in statistics. Based on the stats, the biggest problem was the offensive line. Maybe the playcalling was failing this team as well but Campbell got the most out of what was given to him. His defense was ranked 10th but the Raiders were ranked 1st in Defense on the worst offense ever so teams might have chilled against them.
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This is a pretty good analysis. Once Campbell lost Chris Samuels his Pro Bowl LT, Chris Cooley his Pro Bowl TE, and Clinton Portis, his Pro Bowl RB, he kind of folded it up. While not a good sign, there is only so much one person can do.
May 11th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
Seymour Bush – He might not have folded it up, he just didn’t have the talent on the field he had before all the injuries. He had to rely on lesser talent and we all know what thats done for the Raiders. I will check each of his games for consistency.
May 11th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
M y sister lives in Portland. Her friends claim it is a Raider town. My cousin lives in Las Vegas. He claims it is a Raider town. In 2002, the season they went to the Super Bowl, I went to 16 games, including away games in SD and ARI. There were more Raider fans there than for the home team. When I was in London and asked the pub owner to turn on an American football game, the patrons said, “Hell no . . . unless it’s the Raider’s game.” I let a girl from Germany come live with me solely because her ad on CraigsList she was wearing a Raider jersey (ok, not solely, she was fine, too). It’s not just a Raider bay, or a Raider state, or even a Raider nation . . .
it’s a Raider planet!
May 11th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
fine raider german women. Sounds pretty good to me.
May 11th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
Jason Campbell QB Rating game log
Week 1 – 93.6 Giants Loss 23-17
Week 2 – 85.7 Rams Win 9-7
Week 3 – 97.6 Lions Loss 19-14
Week 4 – 70.5 Bucs Win 16-13
Week 5 – 104.4 Panthers Loss 20-17
Week 6 – 46.1 Chiefs Loss 14-6
Week 7 – 91.6 Eagles Loss 27-17
Week 8 – Bye
Week 9 – 92.2 Falcons Loss 31-17
Week 10 – 100.3 Broncos Won 27-17
Week 11 – 73.7 Cowboys Loss 7-6
Week 12 – 73.1 Eagles Loss 27-24
Week 13 – 111.9 Saints Loss 33-30 (OT)
Week 14 – 106.6 Raiders Won 34-13
Week 15 – 57.4 Giants Loss 45-12
Week 16 – 63.9 Cowboys Loss 17-0
Week 17 – 101.4 Chargers Loss 23-20
5 Games with 100+ QB Rating
Panthers, Broncos, Saints, Raiders, Chargers
4 Games with 90+ QB Rating
Giants, Lions, Eagles, Falcons
1 Game with 80+ QB Rating
Rams
3 Games with 70+ QB Rating
Bucs, Cowboys, Eagles
13 of the 16 games had a 70+ QB Rating. All but 4 of those games were good teams which made for 9 quality games in a 16 game season against tough competition.
Worst QB Rating games
Chiefs, Giants, Cowboys
2 of these games were in Week 15 and 16 against NFC East teams that were battling hard for playoff spots and it showed as the Redskins were crushed in these games. Despite that, they bounced back to play the Chargers hard in a 23-20 Loss with a 101.4 game in Week 17.
The Redskins lost by 42 total points against 9 teams with the Redskins losing by 4.6 per game. Again, thats 9 games that were lost in close games meaning that 9 of their 12 games were competitive with 3 being blowouts with all 3 being against good teams…the Falcons, Cowboys and Eagles.
Good news. 3 out of Campbell’s 5 100+ QB Rating games were against the AFC West.
Broncos – 100.3
Raiders – 106.6
Chargers – 101.4
Worst Game?
Chiefs – 46.1
The good thing is that Campbell plays for us and not against us and hes had success against 2 of the other AFC West teams.
May 11th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
I”m a diehard Raiders fan sayin keep em in Oakland so all the people in LA including myself be the one’s to see more games on TV hahaha besides all the celebritys want em back so they don’t have to waste money on plane fare every home game , maybe Ice Cube can be M.C.Hammers neighbor & pay his way to da game lmao!
May 11th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
The Raiders belong to the Raider fans wherever they may roam.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
the redskins are going to sign brian westbrook and trade larry johnson to the raiders
May 12th, 2010 at 1:48 am
L.A. belongs to the Raiders, not the other way around.
May 12th, 2010 at 8:30 am
this team has had its best off season in over a decade, giving us…”the fans” something to look forward too for the first time in a long time, and all you can do now is be devisive??!! phuking idiots…WE ARE RAIDER NATION NO MATTER WHERE THEY PLAY OR STAY!!!!
May 12th, 2010 at 8:31 am
GIGGEDY!!!
May 12th, 2010 at 9:12 am
I see someone using my id without the spaces. Do not confuse me with JustWinBaby without the spaces. I’m the one who has been here for years, not days. I don’t post on here much because I have outgrown a lot of the idle bs that happens here. I’m not saying the other JWB is posting anything that i feel opposed to, I just want people to know there are now 2 of us.
May 12th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
I’m an old fart. Was a fan of the old AFL. Been solidly a Raider fan since the beginning. If any of you knew your Raider history, Oakland wasn’t the team’s first hometown (even though they were called the Oakland Raiders) they originally played in Kesar Satdium in San Francisco. The Raiders are a national team much like the Cowboys and Packers are and have many large chunks of fan base everywhere (I live in Vegas now). No matter where they play (even in the LA days)the team is really the OAKLAND RAIDERS. They will start filling the Coliseum again once they start winning games again. That is the bottom line.
May 12th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
I HAVE TO SAY I LOVE ALL MY RAIDER NATION, BUT EVERYONE HAS TO ADMIT THAT THEIR HOME SHOULD BE IN LOS ANGELES. LOS ANGELES FANS ARE THE MOST DIE HARD FANS. WE TRULY PUT THE E IN EXTREME. THE FANS OF THE L.A. RAIDERS REALLY MADE THE WHOLE REPUTATION OF WHAT IT IS TODAY. I ATTEND GAMES IN OAKLAND AND ALTHOUGH THEY ARE EXCITING THEY ARE NOTHING LIKE THEY WERE IN THE L.A. COLISEUM. LOS ANGELES DID SOMETHING FOR THE RAIDERS AND AL DAVIS THAT OAKLAND COULD NOT AND ISN’T DOING FOR THEM RIGHT NOW. EVERYONE WATCHING LAST NIGHT CAN NOT DENY IT AND EVEN AL DAVIS EXPRESSED IT WHEN HE SAID L.A. CAN COME KNOCKING ON THE DOOR AS SOON AS WE GET A STADIUM BUILT. HE KNOWS THAT L.A. IS WHERE HE AND THE TEAM TRULY WANTS TO BE. I AGREE WE ALL LOVE THE SILVER AND BLACK BUT ALL OF YOU IN OAKLAND NEED TO REALIZE THAT IF YOU TRULY WANT THE RAIDERS TO BE SUCCESSFUL AS DAYS OF OLD YOU NEED THEM TO PLAY IN A MARKETABLE CITY,AND A CITY WHERE YOU CAN SELL OUT GAMES AND OAKLAND ISN’T IT! IF THEY WHERE IN L.A. SELL OUTS WOULD BE INEVIDIBLE. THE CITY OF ANGELS BABY THAT’S WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.
May 12th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
LOS ANGELES WOULD BE A LURE FOR TOP TALENT IN THE LEAGUE TO COME TO THE RAIDER ORGANIZATION, THEY MIGHT OVERLOOK HAVING TO DEAL WITH AL DAVIS IF THEY COULD LIVE IN SUNNY LOS ANGELES. ADMIT IT OAK TOWN IS BEAT UP FROM THE FEET UP. THE RAIDERS DESERVE MORE THAN THAT! I’LL JUST BE HAPPY IF THEY HAD THEIR OWN STADIUM AND NOT HAVE TO SHARE A BASEBALL FEILD. I’LL TRAVEL BUT I WOULD LIKE THEM TO BE SOMEWHERE WHERE IT’S ON AND CRACKIN. HOMIE I’M A HOOD BORN G BUT THERE IS NOTHING POPPIN IN OAKLAND UNLESS YOU SMOKE CRACK OR WANT TO GO TO BACK YARD BOOGIES. NO NIGHT LIFE WHATSOEVER! MAN I WAS IN OAKLAND AND I COULDN’T EVEN FIND A LIQOUR STORE THAT SOLD LIQOUR AFTER 10 O’CLOCK. NO DISRESPECT TO OAKLAND BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS!
May 12th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
332 & 333 ARE BIASED BS. THE NAME “LA RAIDERS” DOESNT EVEN HAVE THE SAME RING AS “OAKLAND RAIDERS”!
May 12th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
OAK’ND RAIDERS!!! The LA made us soft!
May 13th, 2010 at 5:49 am
Anyone that says the Raiders belong is L.A. isn’t a Raider fan, they left for a reason.
Fans from Oakland are Raider fans.
Fans from L.A. are fans of the image of the Raiders.
And yes, I am speaking in a general sense, there are actual Raider fans in L.A. and vice versa.
May 13th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
The Raiders are Oakland. End of story.LA wannabees claiming the Raiders, well, you DON’T EVEN HAVE A FOOTBALL TEAM. Biggest market in the world, can’t get a team. Even San Diego has a team, but not LA.Watch basketball, Cube. Thugs that wear the silver and black are not fans.
May 16th, 2010 at 7:29 am
Nuke the Cube
May 21st, 2010 at 10:12 am
Cube did it justice. I mean, he’s clearly an amateur filmmaker but overall – not bad at all: here’s a good L.A.-centric take: http://bit.ly/dbidRr
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